The last time I masturbated was February 24th.
Why? Because before that, I had several streaks of not masturbating — including one for 165 days — and for me the pluses far outweighed the minuses. It was no cake walk and there were definitely some times where I wanted to give up. But these days I avoid it for as long as I can.
The Beginning
As we all do from time to time, I was bored one day browsing the internet and came across the TED Talks presentation on the negative effects of masturbation and porn. I know that you should take these TED Talks with a grain of salt but this one grabbed my attention. After reading through some more articles and personal accounts of the “no fap” challenge, I said what the hell let me try it out. Here’s my actual contemporaneous log from my times on the challenge. Please note that some log entries will just reiterate thoughts from previous entries, but I wanted to leave it as close to unedited as possible:
Round 1 – Day 6
I’m 6 days in and it’s quite torturous. To the point I had to invite a regular over tonight instead of going out for fresh because I feel like if I don’t nut soon I will die.
Round 1 – Day 22
Almost caved yesterday. So far, I can’t tell if it’s this or something else, but I’ve been attracting the hottest girls of my life. On the flip side, I’ve been having more difficulty in closing the deal. Not sure how much of this relates.
It gets way worse when you have a break in action from regular girls. I’m on a voluntary dry streak of sorts, in that I have 2 girls in rotation but keep avoiding them to try and get new and fresh.
Round 1 – Day 27
My previous results are growing. My ability to attract girls and especially higher quality ones has skyrocketed, though it could just be random luck. My conversational and flirting skills are the best they’ve been. But my closing skills have gone to shit. I have no idea why. This is very frustrating. I’ve now had several girls out on dates/back at my place and can’t close, whereas before closing was my easiest part.
Round 1 – Day 28
It’s over — I broke down. Back to Day 1…
Round 2 – Day 31
I went 27 days before breaking down, started again and now am on day 31. So one wank in about 2 months. Here’s what I’ve noticed:
- I have a lot more extreme emotions, which for me is still very muted. I don’t really have mood swings.
- I’m rock hard with the slightest of touch from a girl.
- I think about sex a LOT.
- Most importantly my ability to interact with girls has skyrocketed. Don’t know if it’s this or what, but I find myself being able to carry on conversations with girls with ease.
- I give much less of a shit about 1) rejection, and 2) any particular girl that I’m dating/trying to bang.
- I’ve had a more difficult time closing on dates. Not sure why.
- That one time I did jerk it, I felt so damn happy for about 5 days afterwards. Like I was just flying high in happiness. This was quite odd, I don’t think I was this happy in years.
- I’ve been approaching a lot more, probably because I’m outrageously horny.
- I’m more of a dick to girls, which works initially but then I push it too much and has been backfiring of late.
- Porn now almost freaks me out a bit. It’s weird I know, but not in the sense that oh my god what are they doing, but that since I don’t view it regularly it is a bit shocking to my eyes. I’ve only seen it randomly and not on purpose.
- I’m actually less efficient with work, mostly because how to bang and who to bang next dominate my thoughts.
Round 2 – Day 40
I think I have to stop this. As much as it improves my mental clarity and makes me aggressive as shit, yesterday I had sex for the first time sober since starting this thing and I nutted in 10 seconds – no exaggeration. I had a condom on too. I’ve never blown that fast in my life. When I wank consistently it takes all the concentration in the world for me to nut. At least then I can give the girl a good pounding.
Not sure what the answer is but I can’t be so sensitive to blow in seconds. Jesus.
Round 2 – Day 65
The desire to jerk it has completely subsided. I never even think about it anymore. My ability to approach, conversate and bang women has increased substantially. I actually feel like a different person, more confident. Of course it’s hard to directly correlate my success to this, but I’m sure it helps. The only negative I’ve noticed so far is the one time I had sober sex I blew in less than 10 seconds and had to pretend I was still going…and this was with a condom on. The desensitization associated with masturbation was over-corrected. When I drink and have sex though I’m fine.
Nonetheless a very positive experience for me and coupled with the lack of desire to masturbate honestly I’m not sure when I’ll jerk it again in the near future.
Round 2 – Day 68
I’m past two months now and if I don’t approach a girl in about 48 hours or so I start twitching. It insanely boosts your desire to go out and talk to girls, I can’t even describe it. Actually yes I can, I feel like a crack addict when I go so many days without interacting with a girl – I simply fiend it. Before, I could go all week and just be content with the weekend approaches/nights out.
Round 2 – Day 77
I almost broke down on Tuesday. Really struggled but pushed through. When I went out that night I literally was walking around going I need to have sex with someone. Happened with third girl I spoke to. It really makes a difference after you pass a certain point.
Round 2 – Day 97
Can’t believe I got this far. It’s really really hard sometimes.
Just looked at some stats and I’ll give some general observations. I started early June. Prior to that for 2012, I banged out 10 girls. So about 2 a month. Since I started, I’ve banged 12 girls, including 6 in August. A lot more ONS in the post-fap period. Some observations now:
- I absolutely cannot handle not talking to a girl for more than 2 days. Like a crackhead, I get an itch to approach after about 48 hours.
- I care almost exclusively about sex. This has helped and hurt me. It has helped because my goal is always sex. I don’t care about dates, I don’t care about conversation, everything is calculated to how I can get the sex fastest. This helps with girls that are DTF I guess, however I’m sure other girls that maybe would want to date a few times would be turned off. I’ve noticed more SNL and less 2nd dates if that makes sense. Like it’s now or never.
- I went from only being able to nut without a condom after 30 minutes, to twice nutting in less than 10 seconds with a condom. That’s actually quite embarrassing. But that only happens if I’m dead sober and haven’t had sex for a while. If I drink I’m fine.
- Within probably 2 minutes of nutting I’ll be good to go again. Sometimes I won’t even go soft, happened once. The girl was shocked and happy.
- The slightest stimulation and I’ll be as hard as a rock. So makeout, I’m hard. Speed bump in road, I’m hard.
- I’m more honeybadger style, in that I don’t give a shit and approach a lot more. Also, I care a lot less about any particular goal because I’m so focused on sex as opposed to the girl herself. Literally when I’m at a bar, when I see a girl my first thought is can or would I have sex with her. Not what do I open with, who is she here with, is she drunk, etc. It’s all secondary.
- I feel like my productivity has DECREASED actually. This is because of the amount of time I spend thinking about sex. However, this could be a byproduct of my lack of girls in rotation recently. I’ve been moving around and traveling a lot so it’s hard for me to keep anything going. I’ve lost girls because they either move on to someone who will date them, or I’m just not around enough and they get impatient and leave.
- I’ve had insane streaks, including a different girl in my bed for 9 straight nights (not all sex), my first threesome, and 6 girls in a month. Never had that before.
- I feel more confident.
- I really don’t give a shit about many things. In a good way, as in I don’t let outside thoughts/opinions influence my actions.
- My patience for LMR has gone way down and as a result I’m giving up sooner than I should.
But I’m struggling now. As good as August was to me I came back sick after labor day, have not gone out as much and messed up some easy layups last weekend so I’m on almost 2 weeks without sex. Have 3 dates lined up this week so we’ll see what happens.
Round 2 – Day 103
I think I’m going to give this up. I’m just way too quick on the release everytime I’m with a girl now sober, as opposed to before I’d last forever. Not sure what to do, though my approaching has gone way up and I’m much better at getting conversations going.
Round 2 – Day 107
- I’m insanely horny. Like sometimes I just can’t take it anymore I want to fuck so badly.
- This makes me approach a lot more and I have a lot stronger interactions with the girls.
- This has hurt my ability to overcome LMR. When I get so close I think I’ve turned into some sort of desperate/aggressive guy that stops them from going forward and turns them off. Before this I was pretty damn good at overcoming LMR.
- I’ve had a lot more SNLs.
- The slightest touch or makeout and I’m hard as a rock, from lack of stimulation.
- Worst problem as I just mentioned, I nut way too quickly now unless I’m hammered. This is not cool.
- I spend way too much time thinking about sex and it takes away from work.
Round 2 – Day 132
It’s getting very hard. I now fantasize about fapping… like when I will do it, where I will be, the porn I will watch, etc. Not sure how much longer I can hold out. Everything makes me super hard these days. I have banged a lot more girls since I started this though so there’s something to be said for that.
Round 2 – Day 153
Round 2 – Day 165. THE END
Alright, so I went 165 days and decided to end it last night. Immediately I regretted it. Here’s what I was like towards the end:
- The most objectively indifferent and aloof I’ve ever been towards girls. I honestly could not care less about any of them.
- Most sex I’ve ever had on a consistent basis. This was towards the end, have two girls on rotation and the occasional SNL here and there.
- Most girls I’ve banged in a 165 day time span (19 different girls)
- Most aggressive I’ve ever been in terms of going out and approaching.
- Most scatterbrained I’ve been with respect to work and desire to work.
- Least I’ve ever worked out since I started going to the gym 14 years ago.
As soon as I fapped my mind rushed in with tons of beta thoughts for whatever reason. It scared me. I wanted to sleep over one of my rotation girl’s places. I wanted to stop going out and be a good guy. Like I literally was being brainwashed.
Obviously I realize that the direct sole variable is not fapping or not fapping, but indirectly it is. I probably had so many bangs because I was so aggressive in going out, but that was because I was not fapping so my only release was through a girl – talk about motivation.
Not sure if I’m going to go another 5.5 months or whatever, but I’m definitely not going back to my ways of before (few times a week).
The Next 30 Days
Pretty interesting update I have. It’s been about a month since I gave up the NoFap (“NF”) challenge and jacked off and have been doing so since then. I’ve decided I’m going right back to NF, and here’s why:
- I’m still relatively indifferent about girls. However, I did let my guard down with some slut. I don’t think I would have been as duped while in NF phase.
- My quantity and frequency of sex is still very high, mostly because I’m fucking my roommate so she’s always there. However, I’m not happy with that situation to be frank. Kills my ability and desire to go out a bit. Nonetheless I still have brought girls back home, though…
- In this month since giving up NF, I’ve banged a total of zero new girls. None, zilch. I went from roughly 3.5 new bangs/month to 0. Horrible.
- I’m considerably less aggressive. Admittedly, it is due to the fact that I had two girls on rotation for a lot of the time. But sometimes I could just walk out and go approach some girls and rather chose to stay in and jack off, such as today.
- A little bit more focused on work to be honest.
- Started working out again, but I’ve actually put on about 5lbs (0% muscle). Need to really get in shape.
The beta thoughts continued on. I was very comfortable with my roommate and just having sex on demand. Many nights I’d give up my ability to mack, though largely it was so my friends could try to bang her friends, in that I’d offer to have our groups meet up but knowing my night would then be over. Previously I was ruthless and would never do that.
I started feeling burnt out and wanted to stop gaming so much. I wonder if my lessened desire also led me to believe I was getting burnt out. I actually never felt that way beforehand.
Take it for what you will, but in my eyes there is no doubt I was much better – game wise at least – during the NF phase.
Conclusion
February 24th was my last breakdown, so currently I’m at another 4+ months. I know I can’t go forever but currently I have no desire to masturbate. And in looking back at my times and coinciding them with my game success there is one other benefit I realized… the times when I’ve lowered my standards, brought back home girls that I wasn’t too proud of, have all been within days or weeks of my breakdowns. You would think the fact that if your only form of release is from a live girl your standards would decrease. In my case at least, it was the complete opposite.
Everyone is different and I realize that what may work for one may not work for others. But this shit worked for me, and it worked wonders. I would recommend every guy give this at least one shot.
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I never knew I’d be so enthralled in someone’s no fap log. It was quite exciting to read.
I have struggled with no fap challenges in the past. It is insanely hard. After reading your log, I’ll give them a shot again.
Saltpeter for you little man.
Longer I’ve last is three months. I’ve tried it several times and frankly the benefits are scarce (for me).
“The most objectively indifferent and aloof I’ve ever been towards girls. I honestly could not care less about any of them.”
Nah I disagree. It’s in contradiction with what you said before and after. You’re like a horny dog and can appear at times as way too needy. And I was lifting heavy at the time so, pretty high testosterone levels.
Not a contradiction. I cared a lot about banging, I did not care about the person I was banging, hence the aloofness. And to clarify that second part, I was not indifferent as to who I would bang…the person I was already banging, I was indifferent to.
Was that the $2 crack ho?
I can somewhat speak about this. I gave up porn. And I had ED before. I am 57 and everyone said (including my doctor), “oh, it comes with age”. Since giving up porn and it has been near two years now, normal erectile function has returned. I get piss hards in the morning, and the length and firmness of erections is like it was in my 20s. I made a bunch of other changes and maybe some had contributing effects in this. I have less stress in my life. I rarely drink alcohol. But the symptoms described on the page that I read about this connection between ED and Erectile Dysfunction (and actually I found that page on the Roosh V forum in comment) pretty described what I was having. Ridiculously soft erections that only my hand could coax out an ejaculation. So I can concur what this author is saying and I am pretty convinced that porn can lead to ED. If you stop then you can expect normal functioning to reoccur in about 90 days.
” I read about this connection between ED and Erectile Dysfunction”
What do you mean by ED? I assume ED stands for Erectile Dysfunction
Mark, when you quit the porn did you have a woman/women to have sex with, or did you quit cold turkey aka no orgasms at all? I have had similar soft erection issues like you describe and I gave up the hardcore stuff about 3 months ago, but replaced it with softcore (jerk only to sight of naked chicks). I think its helped but the jury is still out. I have no “rotation” to fall back on like Law Dog, so if I were to do a real no-fap it means no orgasms at all unless its a wet dream.
It’s called old age when you can’t get it up.
So men who still get it up at 90 aren’t old? I like it. I agree, BTW.
We’re doing a study on Internet stupidity here at the lab and all I can say is that if at 57 you’re reading this ‘tween and kiddiecrap at your age then you have a bigger problem than trying to get it up at your age.
@TimMellon:disqus – for the most part I’ve agreed with your comments on this post, but if you call this “‘tween and kiddiecrap” what does that say about you?
he is jealous because he can´t last nofap longer than 3 days, plus he doesn´t get to bang as much chicks as the guy who wrote this article so he´s just butthurt
Are you kidding me? Just because someone posts it on the internet, does not make it true. If it IS true, however, why would someone obsess over something to the point of NOT being able to focus on the present? Fuck that. I beat my meat every other day and have sex every other day in between…and I obsess about neither.
Mark,
As someone with a ton of endocrinology training, I can tell you that there’s no such thing as a “piss hard-on”. It’s simply the fact that your T levels are higher than they were before. Erections come from good NO production, which comes from good T production, that simple. The fact that you wake up with a woody and have to piss just means that those two physiological events happen in the AM. It’s also proof that the no-porn & no fap works, along with whatever other lifestyle choices you’re making that are pro-T. Good work, man, keep it up, and your great posts too.
Not exactly. Hard-ons are the body’s natural way of preventing a guy from pissing himself in the wee hours of the morning — urethra open for ejaculate, but closed for urine. It’s a combination of that and early morning hormonal fluctuations that give morning piss erections. Heavy porn use and chronic masturbation are strongly linked to ED, as are job / money stress, heavy boozing, smoking pot, obesity, diabetes, dietary deficiencies (zinc, magnesium, arginine, B-vitamins) and good old performance anxiety.
I’m 21 and everytime I have a girl naked in front of me I just get so anxious and think so much of my performance that I freeze and are to nervous to get a hard on. If theres any guy out there who has dealt with this you know it just gets worst everytime , Ive been told im a handsome guy but due to this I avoid sex and have little confidence, IF there is anyone that has overcome this please tell me how .
Ease into a steady relationship built on trust that will help you overcome this sense of insecurity. You must realise by experience. This will only be achieved with enough time to ‘evolve’. Take the time you need and good luck!
I had the same problem. Fear, anxiety. How I cured it, is, that I was with a girl whom I explained everything. She understood it and she said, it’s not a big deal, we will go slowly. So we did, first night I didn’t manage to get it hard so there was no penetration, but tomorrow night I did, and after that we had sex for like 7 days in a row, morning, evening. That was also my first time to do penetration, and I was 28.
Girls usually have this mother instinct, and they wont mock you about it. Just be very honest, and tell the girl about it. In that way you will release much stress from yourself, and she will know that it is not the problem with her, which is important, so she will help. Girls actually like this, and it takes guts to admit it, so she will appreciate honesty and trust.
Be strong. V out.
Hey man, “K”, I had been there for years. Okay… now… I am going to help YOU and most likely a LOT of other people that are lucky enough to come across this TLDR and smart enough to do any of it.
I have found that Albert Ellis’ R.E.B.T. (Rational Emotive Behavioral Therapy) works a WHOLE hell of a lot! Fuck the Gestalt psychology! REBT is also the most successful form of psycho-therapy in the world! and the grandfather psycho-therapy to CBT-Cognitive Behavioral Therapy! Get any one of Albert Ellis’ books because the REBTnetwork.org or SmartRecovery is okay but Albert Ellis’ books… they are just pleasant, you’ll see!
So, it’s “A – B – C”
A=event or situation
B=self-talk (which can be lightning swift and has been dubbed silent thinking; whole paragraphs brought to a sigh)
C=resulting feelings and emotions
i remember strongly believing, like most people strongly irrationally believe, that it is A-C !
Lets take the situation Albert Ellis describes in one of his books. The client had a thought “what if my goddamn cock goes down in bed with my wife”, this then turned into his goddamn cock going down in bed with his wife since he focused on that, which in turn changed into a “MUST”, “I MUST perform well in bed with my wife”. This is irrational, therefore the resulting feeling was Anxiety. Rationally stated, it’s just a desire, once a desire becomes ‘MUSTY’ you basically introduce anxiety and fear and paralysis. His secondary MUST was then formed since this was an unpleasant feeling and he had low frustration tolerance to unpleasant feelings. So his secondary MUST became. “I MUST not feel anxiety and if i do it is AWFUL”. The resulting emotion was panic attacks and depression. So he went to a psychologist, Albert Ellis, and Albert had him run through a DIB’s form (disputing irrational beliefs form), starting with the secondary belief. Then going to the primary, then tackling the practical problem of focusing on fucking his wife instead of focusing on not having his goddamn cock go down while fucking his wife. So he answered these questions basically:
1. Select the irrational idea to dispute.
2. Is there any rational support for this idea? (if you have some quick irrational shit run through your head and then you quickly say to yourself nah that’s dumb or irrational, try real hard to write it down to understand your irrational sub-beliefs and areas to dispute now or later or both)
3. What evidence exists to the falseness of this idea? (Spend some time here vigorously)
4. What evidence exists to the truth of this idea?
5. What is the worst thing that can happen to me?
6. What good things could occur?
7. What new thoughts could I now think?
8. What new feelings could I now experience as a result of this self-talk?
I am going to state some relevant irrational ideas people hold: [cue the haters and trolls]
Irrational belief #1: You must always be at least a little nervous or unsure in attempting a new task because it is new. (result: worry and decreased performance)
Irrational idea #2: You MUST have a LOT of experience to be good at something.
Very Common Highly Irrational Variation of #2: You must have a LOT of experience (failure) to be good at something.
Irrational idea #3: The past has a LOT (or everything) to do with present feelings and emotions. [cue the gestalt psychologists]
Irrational idea #4: I must be almost unfailingly competent, successful, and almost perfect in everything sexual I undertake! (resulting symptoms: sexual performance anxiety, lowered risk taking at approaches, avoidance behaviors, panic attacks)[don’t panic, we’re gonna change this very easily, and very soon, i promise :)]
Irrational idea #5: The universe must not make me feel unpleasant feelings. (Resulting symptoms: low frustration tolerance in general, overeating, drug addiction, sex addiction)
Since most people hold the belief that your self-talk does NOT make you feel anything, we try to control the events and situations “the A’s”. Am I right? I guess a for instance could be, young guys taking viagra to overcome performance anxiety because I MUST get “positive experience” to get past my performance anxiety and I MUST have an erection. Irrational ideas/musty thinking gets in the way of desires in the form of, ‘blocks’ ‘self defeating behavior’ ‘self sabotage’. Furthermore, I bet a lot of people will tell you to just go out and get some good experience under your belt slowly or quickly with women and tough it out if your nervous you pussy and this certainly has been the most popular mode to adjust one’s self-talk (with varying degrees of efficacy to say the least!). This is unnecessary. Change your irrational belief system with Albert Ellis’ REBT!
So to refute one of these irrational beliefs takes about 2 weeks, you simply answer the questions vigorously for an hour minimum every day. This can also take longer depending on the strength of the belief system and how well you dispute/debate your ideas. You will see the “B” change to a lightning swift rational thinking with resulting rational feelings of either a healthier negative emotion like concern or maybe assertiveness or neutral feelings of boredom, aloof maybe instead of rage or panic attacks or extreme anxiety and compulsive worry. Even positive emotions can be pushed in there like the feeling of ‘gitty’ anticipation before sex or before something new or even before fight training where you get your ass beat by several people; instead of the anxiety/dread/fear/loathing/worry that some of us have programmed in as a response, due to poor self-talk patterns. I caution you NOT to stop when the symptoms of worry vanish or else you will relapse into old thinking patterns. The old belief system had been alive for a long time. Continued daily refuting may have to be reminded and almost scheduled since worrying will vanish and anxiety may quite possibly vanish damn near entirely also. Scary Effective! It certainly is pleasant to watch and feel this process take effect in your life. You WON’T believe that thoughts don’t create your emotions after you do it once or twice!! hahahahahaha! oops i farted. update: sharted
Worrying is the problem people. Pondering is not the problem. When you ponder under anxiety that is called worrying. Goal solving using pondering is fine; although not that much is usually needed. Also, if you are successful in many areas of life and have that one problem area, say sex, then identify the fact you do worry about it and don’t ponder upon it. No big deal, done. Stop that and make Disputing Irrational Beliefs your new solution every time you feel a need to worry.
I would bet money you are telling yourself a few “musts”, like maybe, “I MUST not get performance anxiety” “I MUST get an erection immediately for women cuz that’s what I see in porn” “I MUST not feel bad about not doing these things all my life” “I MUST have a big cock to be adequate for women sexually” “I MUST perform almost perfectly sexually because that’s how I view porn stars and porn in general” ETC, ETC. Basically, what you are going to do is get some notebooks and “refute” these irrational ideas well the irrational ideas that you have at least. Take the ‘I MUST not get anxiety one’. You most certainly can fucking get anxiety and its not the end of the fucking world, its just a bit inconvenient and no one really fucking notices truthfully and you’re pretty good at coping with it when you do get it really bad too!!!! This is basically what you are gonna tell yourself repeatedly and vigorously, very vigorously over weeks on paper and you will see how your thoughts boil down to a lightning swift thought and resulting feeling of neutral-ness or like a vanishing of negative beta thoughts.
Tackle your performance based mindset REBT-style! It will work! Most people just timidly remind themselves with a few words that it isn’t about performance. FUCK THAT, ATTACK with Rational Thinking REBT Style. Fucking ninja style brah! i just gave ya the sword.
Also, besides rebt, throw in some practice in relaxation training so you actually know how to physically relax DEEPLY semi-instantaneously. I recommend ‘The relaxation and stress reduction workbook’ and go through chapter by chapter for about 2 weeks per, don’t skip around. Also get Nicholas Newports’ Lucidology 101, 102, 103, and oversoul courses and do as many OBE’s and lucid dreams as you can. With practice you can go balls deep into an OBE in about 10 minutes, again with practice over say a month. Also, check out CE-5 while you are on a role over at the DisclosureProject.org with Steven Greer. Check out FarSight.org because, if you did the OBE’s, and experienced a lot… well… after OBE training you can work on your remote viewing skills. yeah… no fucking shit!!!!!!! I know it sounds highly unlikely and borderline irrational but the only way to prove it wrong is to do it and shock the shit out of yourself!!
Fantasizing about eating pussy and making out with women is good for recovering sex addicts and inexperienced men. This is where practice in the form of mental exercises can prove helpful. The mental impotence healer is good for guiding you into this until you do it by imagination alone and properly so to speak. Fantasize about the seduction process, basically. Try and stay with it through an entire sexual encounter or experience and do have a hands-free-orgasm/wet dream at the end preferably to wire it in with a ‘reward’. This is more for guys that have masturbated to mental images or porn images from young ages and may not have ever had a wet dream due to the compulsive masturbation habits or fantasized incorrectly or have little experience or even have few ‘chest feelings’ or ‘heart felt emotion’ in their sexual experiences and desire more of that. Focus on the kind of sex you would like to have with women not what you think you should like to have based on porn over-consumption and societal messages like manliness or your own irrational belief system. Check out the Wendy Maltz hierarchy of sexual interactions also.
You gave in after 165 days? Come on man, I am almost at a year myself.
But good article.
I stopped jerking off once. Worst 7 hours ever.
“Give this at least one shot”.. HA!
Fitting avatar.
I once stopped masturbating for a month when I was in my teens. Only started again because I hadn’t had an erection in about 2 days and thought, shit, don’t want to do permanent damage. But I guess I might give that a go again. But, hell I only jerk off if I can’t concentrate on work anyway. It’s just a means to and end.
Actually, I once dated a nympho for 3 months. Sex all day every day. Once I dumped her I couldn’t cum from masturbation at all for 2 weeks no matter how hard I tried. Pissed me off big time as I couldn’t go anywhere without the fear of offending some lady with my erection.
There is truth in this, the main aspects are the increase in Libido, lack productivity (always thinking about girls) and fast sex. The trick is doing this only weekly to get balanced results. 160 days is crazy, didnt think it was possible… kudos
I just relapsed after successfully refraining from fapping for approximately a month. I’ve relapsed a couple of times before and I have never gotten past a month, give or take a couple of days. This is primarily because I am the Sexless Wonder; largely due to my inability to feign interest in women who are beneath my league, as awful as categorizing women into leagues is. Today is day 1 of my round 5. I notice that the first few days after fapping, I feel like a zombie incapable of keeping any conversations with anyone going and struggle to string together spoken words; my cognitive processing becomes stilted and I become introverted. It takes a couple of days for me to become flirtatious and a nimble conversationalist again. After about a week of not fapping I become a raging sex-aholic who can’t read one single page of a novel without resorting to looking at big titties on Youtube;hence the recent accidental ejaculation: I get more reading done, though. I could go on, but I should get back to work.
another virgin lol
No.
I had sex with your mother. And if your mother is dead, I had sex with her while she was dying.
Question: how educated are you?
I just read through a bunch of your past comments and I’ve come to the conclusion that you’re an awful, angry person.
I just read more of your past comments. If you ever diss me again, Tim, I will verbally berate to the point where you’ll feel perverted just from getting up in the morning.
Seems you achieved maximum effect with least effort there, Tim. LOL
I just read more of your past comments. If you ever diss me again, Tim, I will verbally berate to the point where you’ll feel perverted just by getting up in the morning.
At a certain point I just start having wet dreams all the time. “Mental masturbation” indeed
I’m a huge advocate for the “non-jerking off” movement. When I bust a nut, all of my drive and ambition goes with it. When I go long periods without blowing a load, I get more work done and take less shit from people.
Lately for the past month and a half, I’ve been training my body to orgasm without busting a nut. It’s a process, but it’s worth it.
Aristotle said that every virtue is a mean between two vices.
Jerking it too much will leave you lethargic. Never jerking it will render you unable to concentrate on anything but sex. Both will harm your productivity.
You need self-discipline, yes, but you also need an outlet for your urges. I believe that one orgasm once every fourteen days is optimal. Once every seven days for younger guys.
I agree with you. No fap at all and I become extremely agressive, like I want to kill someone if they obstruct my way, and specially now with the hot weather here in Spain and all the girls exposing their skin. Also very difficult to concentrate at work. I think you are right on the spot about the 14 days period.
He said one orgasm every fourteen days, so that must include actual real sex. Hell, that’s practically asexual.
Yeah I can’t go that long without an orgasm. 5-6 days seems to be my limit. I try not to go more than 2-3 and often it works.
What me nofap has given was more concentration ,I actually became less aggressive ,I was more when I was fapping and more irritable at first when I stope I didnt doo it for 137 day but I relapsed later proboably after alcohol and because I was watching a bit but not masturbating so its like edging after that I had few relapses and now I’m almost 2 months the desire to fap went down its still there but I want to finish this hard mode 90 days like says on some websites like “your brain on porn” or nofap reddit no fap made more productive and I’m more focused on things I wanted to do like studying or learning new language maybe I look for my dusty old guitar later and really start to practice ,some say that masturbating is ok but masturbating to porn fucks your brain and I agree to that and after few months I will try to fap but without porn or fantasy ,its all in the brain and the changes come slowly but I noticed it after like 7 months I will continue this guys read more post from guys recovering on yourbrain on porn redit, nofap, your brain rebalanced ,there is probably more there is more details on that when you try to quit from masturbating to porn it gets worst before it gets better also watch gabe deem video on youtube channel called reboot nation
Insightful man. Without fantasy, that’s cruel though.
he is right like i had a job this summer and i stopped for a weak worst shit i ever did i can feel these dudes swimming in my balls but i will continue because i think i am just nicer with them swimming in there and i don’t feel need to get laid i do feel like jerking it.
What me nofap has given was more concentration ,I actually became less aggressive ,I was more when I was fapping and more irritable at first when I stope I didnt doo it for 137 day but I relapsed later proboably after alcohol and because I was watching a bit but not masturbating so its like edging after that I had few relapses and now I’m almost 2 months the desire to fap went down its still there but I want to finish this hard mode 90 days like says on some websites like “your brain on porn” or nofap reddit no fap made more productive and I’m more focused on things I wanted to do like studying or learning new language maybe I look for my dusty old guitar later and really start to practice ,some say that masturbating is ok but masturbating to porn fucks your brain and I agree to that and after few months I will try to fap but without porn or fantasy ,its all in the brain and the changes come slowly but I noticed it after like 7 months I will continue this guys read more post from guys recovering on yourbrain on porn redit, nofap, your brain rebalanced ,there is probably more there is more details on that when you try to quit from masturbating to porn it gets worst before it gets better also watch gabe deem video on youtube channel called reboot nation
What me nofap has given was more concentration ,I actually became less aggressive ,I was more when I was fapping and more irritable at first when I stope I didnt doo it for 137 day but I relapsed later proboably after alcohol and because I was watching a bit but not masturbating so its like edging after that I had few relapses and now I’m almost 2 months the desire to fap went down its still there but I want to finish this hard mode 90 days like says on some websites like “your brain on porn” or nofap reddit no fap made more productive and I’m more focused on things I wanted to do like studying or learning new language maybe I look for my dusty old guitar later and really start to practice ,some say that masturbating is ok but masturbating to porn fucks your brain and I agree to that and after few months I will try to fap but without porn or fantasy ,its all in the brain and the changes come slowly but I noticed it after like 7 months I will continue this guys read more post from guys recovering on yourbrain on porn redit, nofap, your brain rebalanced ,there is probably more there is more details on that when you try to quit from masturbating to porn it gets worst before it gets better also watch gabe deem video on youtube channel called reboot nation
What me nofap has given was more concentration ,I actually became less aggressive ,I was more when I was fapping and more irritable at first when I stope I didnt doo it for 137 day but I relapsed later proboably after alcohol and because I was watching a bit but not masturbating so its like edging after that I had few relapses and now I’m almost 2 months the desire to fap went down its still there but I want to finish this hard mode 90 days like says on some websites like “your brain on porn” or nofap reddit no fap made more productive and I’m more focused on things I wanted to do like studying or learning new language maybe I look for my dusty old guitar later and really start to practice ,some say that masturbating is ok but masturbating to porn fucks your brain and I agree to that and after few months I will try to fap but without porn or fantasy ,its all in the brain and the changes come slowly but I noticed it after like 7 months I will continue this guys read more post from guys recovering on yourbrain on porn redit, nofap, your brain rebalanced ,there is probably more there is more details on that when you try to quit from masturbating to porn it gets worst before it gets better also watch gabe deem video on youtube channel called reboot nation
Celibacy has its benefits too
165 days… I’ll pass…
I think more than 1-2 per week is very bad for you (especially with pornography), but for months at a time… couldn’t do it no way josé. I’d turn into an anti-social hyper-aggressive fruit loop.
The best result of taking part in the NoFap challenge isn’t how the number of days you go without masturbating but how little you masturbate after you decide to quit.
interesting article… thanks (and brave) for sharing…..
I’ve gone years without masturbating…. if you live with a girl and things are going well between you, then obviously you never masturbate because you have her in the sack every night…. from there I think the trick is persuading her to share you with another 1-2 chicks…. (as opposed to marriage).
you shouldn’t be lining up your mates with your flat mate’s friends, you should be lining her and yourself up with them…..
finally….. a trick from a crazy yoga guru i met in india….. learn how to orgasm without ejaculating…. it’s amazing… all that energy and life force you blow out, goes back into your own system…. learn this and you will need between 3 and 10 orgasms per day just to feel relaxed and focused……
sure biologically and scientifically it’s just a small juice and some sperms, but etherically… there is stuff we know nothing about …
Still giving into women’s social pressure and sexploitation? Rion’s got the formula.. Masturbating doesn’t matter so much as spilling your lifeforce on the carpet. I’ve heard of semen retention and longevity dao enthusiasts stopping their female partners periods.. Talk about revamping western civilization. What fucking pill where you guys on, again?
Outstanding article Law Dogger. I haven’t read a no fap account this good. Great stuff.
Has anybody figured out the sensitivity issue? Unless I fap two or three times a week, I can’t last more than a few minutes with a girl. It’s practially instant. Otherwise I almost never have this problem.
Wear a thicker condom…that’s what I do. You last much, much longer.
…or bang rougher looking broads, on smellier sheets, after 3 shots of Yukon Jack. That’ll keep you in the fight.
Get into a fight.
When you refrain from jerking, try some methodical meditation. What meditation does is it directs your energy aura upwards. That not only makes you sexually attractive to women, but you gain tremendous powers to script your own life.
Read about it. I meditate, and sometimes I manifest things so easily that I myself am shocked.
Can you provide a link to a website which talks about this more or elaborate on what you’ve said. I’m interested in this idea. I’ve been practicing meditation for years and I’m curious where you’re learning from.
Here’s an extremely long, somewhat repetitive, but also very, very interesting chapter from a book about Gong Fu; specifically what “retaining the jing energy” (i.e. no-fapping) can do for meditation practice. http://www.meditationexpert.com/Stages2.pdf
“My quantity and frequency of sex is still very high, mostly because I’m fucking my roommate so she’s always there.”
The fact that you made the most-awful-life-decision-ever means I’m gonna keep jerkin’ the gherkin.
but he started banging his roommate after he quit the no jerk off challenge
thats a pretty foolish thing to base a decision on
I was a fully celibate Hindu monk for 4 years, and I can honestly say that I did not masturbate even once during that 4 year period.
How was this possible? Well, I was extremely focused on the spiritual goals, and I was actually experiencing spiritual bliss, which makes material enjoyment pale in comparison.
Either way, I don’t think I’ll be going back to a celibate life anytime soon.
Also, I started watching that Mad Men TV show. This is like the first TV show that I’ve ever been interested in. Does anyone know of any other good TV shows that are actually well made and intelligent? Not stupid American sitcom crap. Thanks
How about Khmer music video John? While the women are fantastic I have never masturbated to it.
Khmer females are fugly looking
Nice try. Put some effort into it next time.
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
Khmer girls are pretty sexy, a lot of them, and they have very nice attitudes, very humble, submissive, and affectionate.
haha, the only time i ever see those Khmer music videos are when I am at the gym and they are playing them on loudspeakers.
If I wanted to masturbate to Khmer girls, I’d just go to a massage parlour and pay them 10 dollars extra for a happy ending handjob.
Oh, last week I was walking to a food store and two hot girls grabbed me and tried to drag me into their massage parlour.
Asia is an amazing place, it’s the opposite of America. Asia is a paradise for men, a hell for western women (since no one wants them here, neither the expat men or the local men).
If sense fulfillment is less than spiritual fulfillment why are you not going back?
it’s a long story but the organization I was a part of, I started learning about the inner corruption and scandals and became very disillusioned and so I left it.
Fuck organized religion. Organized religion breeds corruption and attracts criminals.
breaking bad
i heard Dexter is like the greatest TV show out right now.
I disagree, but the first two seasons were… above-average. I stopped 1.5 seasons after that. I doubt that it has gotten better.
i wouldn’t know. believe it or not, i never watched American TV. Mad Men is like the only show I ever liked, then again, I’ve been living in fucking India and Asia for the past 6 years so I haven’t had a whole lot of opportunity to watch American TV.
I’d come back to America in 2009 after having spent 2 years in India and one friend showed me that Mad Men first season and it was pretty impressive. Also showed me some weird show called Wondershozen.
Just downloaded some random episode, I think it was season 6, Dexter, where that dude tried to kill his son and blow up him in that boat, and saw that his sister was talking about loving her own brother. WTF? Is this normal for American TV nowadays, incest and shit?
Anyway thanks for the recommendation, I added Breaking Bad to my download list. Sounds like a pretty insane show from the description.
Mad Men’s pace is lethargic. It’s not engaging. Very little happens worth the time spent on it. It could use to be fuller. Quietness and stillness in a show are good things if quiet and still yet profound insights are being given, but none such exist in Mad Men. Not that much discovery. I watched the first season and dropped it.
You are quite picky, I see. I just downloaded the first episode of The Walking Dead and watched it, it sounds like a promising show.
I also downloaded a show called True Blood, it’s basically a rip off from Twilight, where some young girl falls in love with a vampire.
I can tolerate most things, as long as it isn’t some kind of moronic sit-com crap or some kind of girly show like Hannah Montana or something.
As a critic, and a person generally disinterested in television & film to begin with, I have a high threshold of quality that must be met for me to enjoy the experience.
You really shouldn’t be asking a person such as me for recommendations. Walking Dead is a show I dropped after the first episode.
Considering that most films nowadays are complete garbage, I agree with you. One recent film that was very well made was The Master, directed by Paul Thomas Anderson.
Dexter isn’t blood related to her.
Next up from Law Dogger: “How to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior”
Yes, you flaming faggot, because some Christians oppose porn & masturbation, all people who refuse to look at porn and masturbate are christians.
Also, what’s wrong with being part of the biggest religion in the world.
The democraps are the biggest party in the US too. All that proves is that your part of the herd of the great unwashed.
All that drivel proves your ignorance and stupidity. By the way Christianity WAS the biggest religion in the world once. The West long ago rejected that religion and decided to commit suicide.
When many people gave up the gods the world went downhill.However, the Pantheon is still standing in Rome so let’s see what outlasts what
One of the greatest articles from last weeks. So many questions pop up in my mind. How did you managed the urges?
I tried the challenge before, but if you have a solitary job where you need concentration on a computer. Man…. your hand automatically grabs your dick. You can’t stop it. You just can’t finish or concentrate on your work until you have ejaculated. Try studying for a hard exam while you are alone for a week in your own house… You just can’t do it without fapping.
When I succeeded in that challenge I lasted for a few weeks. After a week orso I noticed that I couldn’t get hard anymore on command. I also have delayed ejaculation and that didn’t cure either. Maybe if I do a 2 or 3 month challenge that will be better. Reading that you can cum after 10seconds is like … heaven :-). Lucky bastard.
I don’t understand how you could pick up all those chicks in a row, but then I see you live in Vegas. Then I understand that. How could you manage to put your energy in playing girls? Didn’t you had more urges to go for the easy lay and fuck prostitutes?
Your mind will adjust over time but the first few weeks are like a withdrawal period from a drug. The problems you had and alleviated with masturbation will exacerbate at first and then slowly diminish over time. Instead of losing focus, you will gain focus but not at first. You will develop impulse control or you’ll fail at no fap. There is no other way.
If this kid is even having sex at all it’s likely with some $2 crack ho.
Congrats…instead of masturbating with your hand you are using vaginas.
I suppose that’s a step up.
taterearl? More like HATERearl. Amirite?
I don’t hate…I masturbate using people’s minds.
what
Never mind him. He’s that cunt who always replies to any comment regarding ONS with, “Enjoy your std’s.” I swear he’s a fag. Or maybe he only fucks little kids, hence no std’s? Who knows.
@Roosh ^^^^
Hopefully that answers the “what” question. I stroke their brain and look what they spew out.
I’m pretty sure p in the v is the antithesis of masturbation.
I’m pretty sure if the only thing you know about the chick is her vag…it’s not.
It’s still sex, buddy.
Weren’t you listening…I said it was a step up.
There are no steps. Either you are or you aren’t.
You are either Oedipus, Albert Einstein, Niccolò Machiavelli, or Jesus with women.
Talk to me when you completely own a woman.
Too much mental masturbation is giving you a brain fart. I hate to say this to other dudes, but… I think you need to get laid.
Then you should tell your brain to quit eating beans.
U r a cunt, rdwrer
Rivers Cuomo abstains from orgasming all-together while writing music so that all of his energy can be focused into the creative process. Billy Corgan used to make all of his bandmates refrain from orgasming on the day of a concert so they could release all of the pent up energy on stage.
Billy Corgan should have been released down his father’s mother’s throat.
Billy Corgan is more successful than you.
I’d rather be a one-armed wack-shack janitor, and know I could at least work my way up. Corgan is gonna be a whining, foppish little cunt til the day he dies.
I’m sure my self-respect has a price-tag, but that price will never include skinny jeans.
o_O
Day 1: OK, I can handle this. Not so bad. I’m slightly more irritable. Snapped at my landlady when she asked where the rent was. Noticing that the girl who works
afternoons at the coffee shop has puffy nipples through her sheer top. How had I not seen that before. Normally I would head home and search “puffy nipple porn” and choke the chicken, but… let’s read a good book instead.
Day 2: Woman across from me on the bus was wearing a skirt. She was sitting under the air conditioning vent, and the air kept blowing the skirt almost but not quite far up enough to see her panties. I couldn’t look away. The bus hit a bump
and I saw my reflection in the window. My face looked like Private Pyle right before he blows away Gunnery Sergeant Hartman. Need to buy a pair of sunglasses.
Day 3: I bought a doughnut for breakfast. Found myself studying its shape before eating it, and realized I had an erection. A pink raspberry doughnut, flushed and swollen with rich moist frosting… fresh, still hot… so hot… her skin… SNAP OUT OF IT MAN
Day 4: Shapes on the walls… shadows… can’t sleep. The coyotes howl in the night; their voices become the cries of women. The hot wind is fingers on
my neck. My erection refuses to subside; when a big truck goes by the vibrations make it resonate like a tuning fork. Last night it spoke to me. I saw a hideous purple-headed man with a face of impossible pain. “Please” he said, “please, for the love of God… kill me!” I reached out my hands to strangle him, before
reason found me. My own penis is my enemy. An elderly woman dropped her hairnet on the floor of the bus; I took it home and sniffed it for hours. Only 161 more days to go.
Day 5: ALL WORK AND NO PLAY MAKES JACK A DULL BOY ALL WORK AND NO PLAY MAKES JACK A DULL BOY ALL WORK AND NO PLAY MAKES JACK A DULL BOY ALL WORK AND NO PLAY MAKES JACK A DULL BOY ALL WORK AND NO PLAY MAKES JACK A DULL BOY ALL WORK AND NO PLAY MAKES JACK A DULL BOY ALL WORK AND NO JACK NO JACK NO JACK NO JACK!!!!!!
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I am envious of your humor, sir. And I envy very few.
I am crying. Holy shit this was hilarious.
So freaking funny that I favourited this page for your comment.
“Day 2: Woman across from me on the bus was wearing a skirt. She was
sitting under the air conditioning vent, and the air kept blowing the
skirt almost but not quite far up enough to see her panties. I couldn’t
look away. The bus hit a bump
and I saw my reflection in the
window. My face looked like Private Pyle right before he blows away
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman. Need to buy a pair of sunglasses.”
That might be the funniest thing I’ve ever read, LOL!
Holy sh!t man that is freakin hilarious!!! I’m laughing so hard the back of my head hurts! This is so funny I’m thinking about having some of my friends read this!!! Too funny man. This has actually motivated me to go another day (the article and your post)!
Way funnier and more entertaining than the chode who wrote the original article. been awhile since I laughed with tears in my eyes.
It simply doesn’t make any sense that a comment THIS funny is randomly found on a page like this. But thank you very, very much.
This dude could be serious…
Omfg why is this so bloody hilarious, I’m crying right now hahahaha
This is the best thing I’ve read this month.
did the heightened agressiveness offset your ADD tendencies at work?
If you wish to master women or anything else in your life you must first master yourself by stopping master-bating yourself.
There are rises and falls in your sexual drive during the experience. I’ve noticed that I will go from raging horny, unable to focus on anything but sex, to something close to asexual with no thoughts on sex. The best outlet for me is working out. I can jog, lift and then go to work and have energy all day. My appetite has also decreased but there is one thing that no fap has taught above everything else. Discipline, will power, and the ability to control myself.
Just take some saltpeter lol
I wanted to beat Jesus’ record but I failed in the end. He is the superior man. I made it 22 days straight though. 22 days without food living only on water. I watched my muscle and fat wither from my body. I witnessed the true hierarchy of needs we experience because I lost all desire and thoughts of sex completely. Instead of sex fantasies I had food fantasies. Thoughts of cheeseburgers and fried chicken cajoled through my mind tempting me. Women were invisible to me. They held no interest and I knew that I cared for them no more than I cared for my next orgasm. Scars that I had on my arms and shoulders cleared away. My skin improved. I could sit still, not in any focused meditation, but just sit and stare at a tree without restlessness or boredom. The only intrusive thoughts I had were the same thing repeating. “Feed. Food. Gravy. Mashed potatoes.” Eventually my will broke and I ate a salad, just some spinach in a bowl and nothing else. The flavor. The taste. I knew what food tasted like as no one who has gone without can understand.
…congratulations, the conversation has now shifted to you and your achievement of Stupidest Fucking Account of Self-Denial Ever.
k, thanks.
Jesus was screwing Mary the ho one of his groupies. He later married her when she got knocked up.
Some good physiological wisdom here. My take on it is: all things in moderation. I absolutely agree that abstinence from porn is a good thing. But total abstinence from masturbation is a bit unrealistic. Every man is different, of course. Probably better is drastically cutting down the beating off so it’s only a couple times per month.
Too much beating off can lead to disinterest in women, desensitization of the penis, and too much self-absorption, and possibly some erectile dysfunction. Too infrequent orgasms, on the other hand, can lead to neuroses about sex, perceived neediness in approaching women, desperation, and too rapid ejaculation during sex.
So, some sort of balance seems to be the best and happiest medium.
The moral of the story is that man shouldn’t be a nice guy and jerk off to everyone…or be so self righteous that he doesn’t jerk off to anyone.
How do you avoid the Wet Dreams?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nocturnal_emission
If I do not release at least every 2-3 weeks, sooner or later I will have an erotic dream with happy ending, that involves changing my underwear in the middle of the night and some times even the pj….
Shut your brain off…then again why would you?
Contrary to popular belief, some readers here HAVE finished puberty.
Very interesting account… While i have never lasted as long as the writer, I can relate to the experience almost to the T. The only difference for me was that i liked going to the gym… that is where i would either approach or be approached by women… This article has motivated me to start again. Day 1 – Here we go!
Well documented…otherwise, fuck all that; if I became somehow less focused on work, more aggressive, and less sympathetic to women, I might very well end up a guest of the State. …on the other hand, I might just get elected to office.
dude.. i hate to burst your bubble, but you ARE beta!
(if not somewhat lesser than that).
alphas represent less than 1% of the population.
they don’t even have to try at all because all women are already falling over themselves and fighting amongst each other to get into the prime spot.
you should be so lucky to already be sleeping with any amount of women.
there are millions of people who could never get laid if their life depended on it.
no matter how hard they try. even with prostitutes.
the whole journal was marginally interesting but so what. you are obsessing over the most ordinary everyday thoughts.
own up to who you are and be grateful for whatever enjoyable experiences you get to have.
and please get over this whole alpha / beta shit. the world isn’t so black and white.
Horseshit pseudo-statistics pulled out of your ass.
Yes, we at the lab have a good BS detector and this guy is an omega.Who else would even think or write about not jerking off.
It was an experiment for collecting data- something you and your lab monkeys can understand. More informed decision making was the goal, I think Dogger’s got that down. These are the things we need to be thinking about if we are going to become greater, more noble, more terrible.
Alphas actually represent more like 20% of the population. This was originally established in the Pareto Principle but it gets confirmed through Kinsey sex data, etc.
of course that ranges between “Lesser Alpha” and “Greater Alpha” where the lesser alphas are more common.
Don’t be too upset you’re the 80%, OK?
Now the part the Game types don’t want to hear is that this 20% will remain the same. Game IS a Zero-Sum Game. You have a population of PUA-spitting males and still, 20% of them are desirable, the women will just use (more) objective/subjective measures to separate out those (sometimes arbitrary) 20% of guys.
This means that as the readership of Return of Kings and Game blogs increase, so too does the importance of your looks, fame, wealth, status.
#uglytruth
Could the need for sex somewhat be related to that you simply have to fuck a women during a certain time of the month for her to have your child, and because male-body simply cannot depict when that’s going to happen the body in it’s non-fapping state will be horny all the time and think about sex?
Don’t get me wrong here, but the main interest for every species is to survive and make sure your genetics continue to exist, at least if you believe in the evolutionary-theory. So if that is true, the combine with non-stable relationship and your sex-drive going up because not releasing the pressure building up will make your body think that this is the main priority for you know, aswell as the dude who talked about not eating and then fantasizing about food.
The currents laws unfortunately make it impossible to keep stable relationships so that you have free access to sex and can make sure your genetics will be passed on.
OK folks here’s a boy who at least has half a brain and is thinking.Since a female can only get pregnant during her fertile period of 3 days a month Nature synchronized this to the male to ensure that she would get pregnant by making him desire sex at least every 3 days.Sperm can survive 3-4 days inside a female too.
Read a scientific paper today. That showed number of testosterone peaking around day 7-8 to return to more normal levels after that. So given that paper, one should only wank with 7-8 days pauses.
Hold on there my friend,
You can’t just open up that (excellent) paper and jump to the conclusion there.
You need to pay attention to the VARIANCE in the results. For some men, it wasn’t “7-8” days, for some it was. For some, there were NO SPIKES IN T at all.
What every man needs to do is find out how many often his releases need to be for maximal T, and for many of us this changes with time. During college I found that wanking 2 days before going out was optimal for getting laid, I had tried the 7 days and it didn’t work for me at time. Now, well, I don’t go out anymore because all of my friends are whack as shit.
That is all I needed to know, time to drop it for a while and then gradually reintroduce it.
Great post.
This article would seem to be not relevant to a lot of us because, while the author already has women “in the rotation,” for many of us no-fap would mean no sexual release at all, and idk if that is healthy or not. Law Dog, how long could you go with no release at all?
No-fap seems pretty easy to accomplish if you have a few women lined up for booty calls.
I never really measured that variable so I cannot give you an accurate number of days on that. What I can tell you however is that the girls I had to fall back on did not lessen my desire to go out and approach other girls. If anything I would intentionally avoid them and rather head out for new interactions.
If you have no women to fall back on it should only make you more aggressive and hungrier. Are you going out and approaching several times a week? If not then you need to do so.
You have no females pal so stop the BS
its good that it makes YOU “aggressive and hungrier” but from most guys I’ve heard from on the Internet it only made them “more frustrated and desperate”
but hey, to each their own.
Some of us don’t have the funds or the capabilities. And some of us would like to “put a ring on it” before we get her into the bedroom. Have you ever heard of marriage? It’s a wonderful institution.
Law_Dogger, what would you suggest to a person who wants to stay abstinent until marriage?
I hope you’re a troll.
Now that’s a rather ugly thing to say.
No, I believe in marriage before sex. I’m a Mormon.
I read the TED stuff about “your brain on porn” and as a result I have given up porn, sort of, for the past 3 months. What I replaced it with is jerkin’ it to the live girl cam shows on redtube. I *think* this should be better but idk for sure. Its soft core. For me it had gotten to a point where I might be at a strip club and the sight of the naked women would do nothing for me. No titallation at all. And I realized I shouldn’t have to see a chick getting pounded six ways to sunday to get aroused. I think switching to the live girl stuff has helped, but the jury is still out.
That TED talk and the yourbrainonporn site is what got me initially got me caught on to nofap as well. Although the value of quitting general masturbation is still debated, the deleterious effects of watching pornography are not. It is over-stimulation pure and simple, and long-term will only take away from your enjoyment of real sex . As much as I loved the limewire and kazaa porn downloading days of my adolescence (and of course free streaming sites since then), I wish I had never been exposed to porn so early.
How are you guys seriously reading yourbrainonporn and NOT seeing it as PROPAGANDA?
Also as a Return of Kings reader, that first graph (# of Females vs Minutes to Ejaculation) – that should sell you on the fact that YOU WANT TO BE A PLAYER. Thats a GOOD thing, but they sell it as a BAD one
File this under: Feminine Imperative.
Your Brain on Porn seems more like an emasculatory website than anything.
There might be good data on that website but its absurdly biased.
A couple of things.
One, the act of masturbating is a static action that backs your pipe up and enervates the loins. One must thrust back and forth using the abdomen and groin muscles. If you must masturbate then wrap a Fleshlight in a pillow and pump it vigorously. Dress it up in a schoolgirl outfit and punish that bitch!
Secondly, I’ll bet not one man here knows how to properly masturbate a woman. Not claiming I understand it either.
It’s amazing how little you know gramps.
Well, assuming a woman near estrus based on awareness of lunar rythms, how does one take her from dead-fish to screeching ape without damaging your rotator cuffs or getting a neck injury? Granted, sometimes they are so swollen with lust that it’s a no-brainer, but during those off-days, how do the pros do it? Hitachi MagicWands not allowed.
OK, begin. While you are at it I will peruse the latest Gender&Society “Towards a Hair-Style Privilege Grammar in Women of Color”.
Darn I was going to say my Hitachi Magic Wand…but I see that isn’t allowed.
So on the off days I use my flaming sword. Sometimes it intrigues them and sometimes it frightens them.
You soak your dick in lighter fluid then ignite it and shove it in before the flames burn your flesh? Probably need to shave your pubes before trying this stunt though.
Obviously…this isn’t my first rodeo.
Heh….Uncle Elmer you got my respect.
@UncleElmer:disqus – I actually had a lark stop me while I tried, and make efforts to teach me herself!
Needless to say I got her “closer” but still couldn’t pull it off. She was also the first girl to criticize me on using my dick as a crutch. Whatever works works baby!
Sometimes it helps to let them know they can assist. Otherwise they won’t say anything. You could be working your ass off but if you are 1 cm from the sweet spot, it’s all for naught. If after 10 min they haven’t climaxed it may be a good time to unveil the Magic Wand. Let her take the controls. Never fails.
Another problem is many guys are impatient. Let her know you are in for the long haul and she will relax and have a better chance at reaching her goal.
Here’s another tidbit : often women will start their period the day after an intense orgasm.
The pros know how it works.
I think Raw Dogger gave it up because he was tired of being the pivot man on the circle jerk all the time.
I have tried to do this several times but after a couple of weeks I can’t sleep a wink (like, lie awake in bed, all night, even after taking serious sleeping pills or generous amounts of booze) and I can’t concentrate at work, both from horniness and from being exhausted.
read this all the way through. no homo.
i gave up porn. spanking it though, no. spank bank only. i noticed several things. one, i felt like jerking it way less often. like once or twice a week. always on weeknights. its almost like you know the porn is there so you will watch it just because you are bored. without porn spanking it only occurs when you need a real release and there are no females available.
also id say the not giving a shit, desire to go out and meet women is way higher. theres only so much your mind can do.
but at the same time i could concentrate on work. so it was like a compromise.
will give nospankathon a try. see if it helps or hurts compared to it being allowed but no porn.
definitely never watching porn again though, not after the results i got in my life.
“… the times when I’ve lowered my standards, brought back home girls that I wasn’t too proud of, have all been within days or weeks of my breakdowns.”
Could what you’re experiencing here be a form of ego-depletion? read…http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2012/08/12/understanding-the-dangers-of-ego-depletion/
Hey Mr. Lawdawg you couldn’t answer a simple question so you erased it so I post it again.
It’s 1790 and you want a jury for your civil lawsuit. What is the minimum sum you have to sue for to get a jury.
Every kid knows that even if he’s not a law student. Answer it then I’ll go on to real grownup questions.
That’s something every kid who has graduated from a US grammar school would know let alone some big lawyer like you lol
What’s a jury?
All you had to do is give a dollar amount and if you don’t know it then you are a fraud as I said. I’ll then explain why you should have known the answer to this question off the top of your head without searching “Wiki” for the past 3 days and coming up empty.
I’m surprised you stop hitting the gym. On no fap I am a fucking animal in the gym.
Repeat after me: PLACEBO
PLUH-SEE-BOH
“I’ve had insane streaks, including a different girl in my bed for 9 straight nights (not all sex), Never had that before.”
This was believable until I read this. Threesome irrelevant
But once again Return of Kings blows its wad too soon. Can you explain how you could have multiple girls in rotation and still be a pre-me?
Or how you could even go out for 9 straight nights/9 straight dates to even begin with?
I have to agree with this. I don’t see how even the most hardened of players could tolerate being around (and gaming) with a new female every single day of the week, then two days more. Especially given the writer claims to be a lawyer. My buddies in the field I can barely even get to come out one night with me, much less 9 straight. Times in my life where I have gone NoFap AND had a rotation of girls, I (barely) had the problem with busting too early, because the girls had my stamina up. I found it an accomplishment to get 3 new lays 3 days straight theres no way on day 4 that I had any energy at all!!! to go out.
Also to the writer: Kegels are the way to go, they (marginally) increase stamina.
See above comment, if I was not on vacation and had to work I couldn’t do 9 nights in a row.
If you tell me what a pre-me is I can likely explain.
When I’m on vacation (like this 9 night streak), I will go out every night. This was in NYC, where it is very easy to get dates/girls lined up.
I’ve also done 28 nights in a row before (going out, not dates). If I have minimal work to do, can sleep in, why not go out? Coupled with the fact that I put in a lot of effort into this it is entirely possible.
Law_Dogger, as I mentioned before, I’m a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, and my religion thinks masturbation is wrong. However, I don’t have the opportunities you have to relieve your sexual tension. I’ve never been on a date, I’ve never kissed a girl (let alone get in her pants), and I’m 25.
It would seem to me that you’re cheating because you are using women to relieve your tensions. I think it would be a real challenge for you if you had no stimulated ejaculations (with a partner or otherwise). No sexual contact with anyone, yourself included. How long can you abstain from that?
Besides…why jerk off? I want to keep the jerk on most of the time.
I got half way through this wank diary then realised what I’m doing with my time. I would be better of spending this time jerking off.
I believe masturbation is perfectly fine aslong as you have 4-5 days apart and don’t do it to porn. I mean I tried going 20 das and it did nothing for me except make me have evne more sexual anxiety.
So… fapping makes you beta. Or, jerking off turns your inner jerk off. Interesting diary. After reading this — do you want to be a beta or an alpha with near-priapism? — I don’t understand why any man would fap at all.
oddly this is one of my favorite manosphere posts of all time
All you had to do is give a dollar amount and if you don’t know it then
you are a fraud as I said. I’ll then explain why you should have known
the answer to this question off the top of your head without searching
“Wiki” for the past 3 days and coming up empty.
Still waiting Mr “lawyer”
Or do you just block accounts when someone exposes you you little wanker?
I can see now why any top female would believe that you “ladies men” wannabes are losers. Who the hell except a complete omega loser writes an article on jerking off? What next? An article on how you were constipated?
It’s different for every man, of course, but some research shows the best testosterone boost at 7 days without ejaculating. My strategy has been to do just that, and I do well most weeks. I also often don’t nut when fucking girls I’m not wildly attracted to. Denying them my seed somehow has greater reward than nutting.
Also, I learned “edging” control–taking myself to the edge but not past it, has resulted in so much more control, it’s ridiculous. I can decide when, and if, I want to nut. I can draw it out for hours, or not ejaculate, or I can make it happen quickly if I want to “mark my territory” on or in a particular girl that I feel strongly about.
This article is misleading. Your still having sex so your are still busting your nut. When I was with my ex for 2.5years she wouldn’t let me jerk it cause she rather do it for me. But try not have sex/ or jerking it and see how far you last
The best way to put yourself off porn is to watch a mexican drug lord beheading a woman then you realise that sex and death are one the same thing -like rubbernecking a motorway accident. Its purile yet we can’t help it.
Dude this is amazing! I’ve been trying to stay clean for a few days now, and it just gets super hard… I didnt count the days. And one question, are you a PUA? Hahaa you talk like one. Nice post *Sticky*
All well and good for those men who have sexual partners to fall back
on. But many men can’t find real life sexual partners or those that have
partners like me are married to women who do not want to have sex. I
haven’t has sex for almost 20 years but I stay in my marriage because of
my responsibilities to my children. I suppose you think I should be
celibate? I thank god every day for porn as it is the only sexual outlet
I have.
Well hey man, at least you put your responsibility to your marriage first. You’re a good man.
Hey Law, back in the day (the 80’s 90’s) I also made the very vague connection that the less I wanked the more quality sex with prettier girls I’d get. You just described (and exploited it) far better than I ever did. I congratulate you!, as one of our team… “the dudes”…you have managed to crack the “golden code”…how to pick up girls.
I think this basically comes down to pheromones. I believe a potential partner will gravitate toward the member of the opposite sex who is either most fertile or virile at that time. My reckoning is that, for men, now this is in basic agricultural terms here…if a guy spills his seed by his own hand the day before the night he is expecting to pick up someone he will invariably fail…precisely because he lacks that last minute kernel of desire to have sex. Sure he’ll spend the day poring over porn and telling all his mates how horny he is…but he shot out that last little piece of dna that will close the deal hours before.
But, if a guy keeps his hands off his member and uses his mind rather than an image on screen or in a magazine to have him thinking positively about sex, this guy will go in psychologically and sexually charged up, ready to shag and dammit a girl will have some vague sense that, hey this guy seems interesting for some reason, and I feel a compunction to shag him!.
As your amazingly concise article contended, this technique is far from easy, but is anything really easy?. No. from wanting the occasional shag shag to flying a fighter jet its hard work. The harder the work or greater the effort the higher the returns.
That thing you said about porn “freaking” you out, is so damn accurate. It’d be be like showing a man a picture of roast turkey 3 weeks into a hunger strike. I mean he will want the turkey with all his being but he knows it will take him off his path toward the goal he has in mind.
i think you should go see a psychiatrist, dude. honestly.
I loved reading this. There’s no need to be attractive. Get a drink in your hand and it seems like the deal is done. I wonder how attractive he is without working out and such. There’s no body preference. Locations are more obvious, since ‘going out’ means town. I want to hear a blog 6 years from now. Wonder if any things changed. Seems like this bed sport is a life time worth of testing. Be more interesting though.
wow, I don’t understand how it can be so hard not to masturbate when you are still sleeping around. I guess that TED talk is pretty accurate. I’ve gone 7 days and I feel crazy, but I don’t have a partner. Last time I had a partner I never even masturbated.
You sound like a cunt.
This guy’s a f*cking sex addict and a user of women. He talks about them like they’re a business deal. Disgusting and pathetic.
Hey “Law Dogger”, here’s an idea: why don’t you figure out WHY you’re so obsessed with using random women. What you’re not getting is that it’s much worse to f*ck without love (outside of a real relationship) than it is to masturbate. At least with masturbation you’re only hurting yourself, not a beautiful woman too.
I hope you find something real one day. You’re obviously a slave to your animalistic side. Don’t you desire a deep connection with a woman who is beautiful both INSIDE and out? To me, THAT is sexy and turns me on.
Indeed. He uses women to make up for his lack of dates with Rosie Palms. It would be a challenge for him if he actually abstained from both sex with random women and himself.
I can wait for a long time, weeks definitely. Its been two weeks right now since I’ve had an orgasm. I could probably go 3, easy.
hat me nofap has given was more concentration ,I actually became less aggressive ,I was more when I was fapping and more irritable at first when I stope I didnt doo it for 137 day but I relapsed later proboably after alcohol and because I was watching a bit but not masturbating so its like edging after that I had few relapses and now I’m almost 2 months the desire to fap went down its still there but I want to finish this hard mode 90 days like says on some websites like “your brain on porn” or nofap reddit no fap made more productive and I’m more focused on things I wanted to do like studying or learning new language maybe I look for my dusty old guitar later and really start to practice ,some say that masturbating is ok but masturbating to porn fucks your brain and I agree to that and after few months I will try to fap but without porn or fantasy ,its all in the brain and the changes come slowly but I noticed it after like 7 months I will continue this guys read more post from guys recovering on yourbrain on porn redit, nofap, your brain rebalanced ,there is probably more there is more details on that when you try to quit from masturbating to porn it gets worst before it gets better also watch gabe deem video on youtube channel called reboot nation
hat me nofap has given was more concentration ,I actually became less aggressive ,I was more when I was fapping and more irritable at first when I stope I didnt doo it for 137 day but I relapsed later proboably after alcohol and because I was watching a bit but not masturbating so its like edging after that I had few relapses and now I’m almost 2 months the desire to fap went down its still there but I want to finish this hard mode 90 days like says on some websites like “your brain on porn” or nofap reddit no fap made more productive and I’m more focused on things I wanted to do like studying or learning new language maybe I look for my dusty old guitar later and really start to practice ,some say that masturbating is ok but masturbating to porn fucks your brain and I agree to that and after few months I will try to fap but without porn or fantasy ,its all in the brain and the changes come slowly but I noticed it after like 7 months I will continue this guys read more post from guys recovering on yourbrain on porn redit, nofap, your brain rebalanced ,there is probably more there is more details on that when you try to quit from masturbating to porn it gets worst before it gets better also watch gabe deem video on youtube channel called reboot nation
hat me nofap has given was more concentration ,I actually became less aggressive ,I was more when I was fapping and more irritable at first when I stope I didnt doo it for 137 day but I relapsed later proboably after alcohol and because I was watching a bit but not masturbating so its like edging after that I had few relapses and now I’m almost 2 months the desire to fap went down its still there but I want to finish this hard mode 90 days like says on some websites like “your brain on porn” or nofap reddit no fap made more productive and I’m more focused on things I wanted to do like studying or learning new language maybe I look for my dusty old guitar later and really start to practice ,some say that masturbating is ok but masturbating to porn fucks your brain and I agree to that and after few months I will try to fap but without porn or fantasy ,its all in the brain and the changes come slowly but I noticed it after like 7 months I will continue this guys read more post from guys recovering on yourbrain on porn redit, nofap, your brain rebalanced ,there is probably more there is more details on that when you try to quit from masturbating to porn it gets worst before it gets better also watch gabe deem video on youtube channel called reboot nation
hat me nofap has given was more concentration ,I actually became less aggressive ,I was more when I was fapping and more irritable at first when I stope I didnt doo it for 137 day but I relapsed later proboably after alcohol and because I was watching a bit but not masturbating so its like edging after that I had few relapses and now I’m almost 2 months the desire to fap went down its still there but I want to finish this hard mode 90 days like says on some websites like “your brain on porn” or nofap reddit no fap made more productive and I’m more focused on things I wanted to do like studying or learning new language maybe I look for my dusty old guitar later and really start to practice ,some say that masturbating is ok but masturbating to porn fucks your brain and I agree to that and after few months I will try to fap but without porn or fantasy ,its all in the brain and the changes come slowly but I noticed it after like 7 months I will continue this guys read more post from guys recovering on yourbrain on porn redit, nofap, your brain rebalanced ,there is probably more there is more details on that when you try to quit from masturbating to porn it gets worst before it gets better also watch gabe deem video on youtube channel called reboot nation
You’re a fucking monster.
A beast!!!
this was the most amusing thing on RoK i have yet to read
This is exactly how I went through and exactly how I felt!
I don’t believe this article. There are things said don’t make sense. How does girls find one more attractive based on not jerking off? It’s not something that can be seen, and even if it was, what’s so epidemic about it? And not many girls are going to open their legs right away, just becouse you feel horny. Unless your really drop your standards, take one ugly ass girl. Jerking off is a habit, a bad one, like smoking. The longer you go without it the weaker your need becomes. You don’t keep thinking of it. Otherwise we couldn’t stop smoking, alcohol, drugs and so on. It’s commen sense. The guy who wrote this has also made sense in some parts, but its bogus for sure. His got attention seeking problems. I mean who really cares about your wank challenge, besides reading it for a laugh.
He’s not lying. It’s not magic or anything but it’s true. I went like four days with out beatin it and females just seem to sense your newfound eagerness.
“Law Dogger is an attorney and the litigation partner of his law firm.”
Yet he has a roommate? What?
hey interesting article you put up there, thanks for the experience and thoughts.
Dude…he went through six girls in a month and had two on rotation? What a manwhore 0_0
Law Dogger is a cheetah.
Heres a suggestion….NO FAP FEBRUARY? Anybody up for the challenge?
Since I read this article almost a week ago, I have not rubbed one out or even thought about hitting up my favorite smut sites. Its been 6 days now. On days 1-4, I barely noticed I hadnt unloaded in almost a week. By day 6, my penis started talking to me. All of a sudden, sex was everywhere I looked. As a side benefit, though my game is getting more assertive with every passing day, and I can already feel my performance in the gym picking up.
This doesn’t count since you have sex. Come back again when you have no sex and don’t fap.
Yes, abstain completely.
You had sex? DISQUALIFIED!!
The inability to ‘close the deal’ in my opinion stems from an (ironically) subconscious compassion for the females feelings and your own moral code. You want to fuck yes, but deep down somewhere you know you just cant keep nutting girls your whole life and this may inadvertently affect your ability to seal the deal. After 60 days of no fap your respect for women increases enabling you to talk to girls more easily, you don’t see them as sexual objects anymore and understand they are real people like you, so your comfortable talking to them, not so comfortable closing and nutting. This is a perfect time to find the right girl, exercise a little monogamy and build a trusting relationship with all the goodness and respect you developed in your mind and body. It will be amazing. She will feel it and think your the best guy on the planet. Over time, with one girl, you won’t spurt so fast and the sex will be the best you’ve ever had.
And hopefully, you will have a wedding ring on that girl’s finger.
A complete paradigm shift may be required!
I have decided that having children is not something I want at this time. The biological purpose of sex is to create children, offspring, a continuation of the species. As human beings we have the ability to override the desire to procreate in favor of other opportunities. Wallowing in the SENSUAL EXPERIENCE of sex while ignoring this most basic fact is a recipe for personal ruin.
Using the female reproductive organs and other orifices as masturbation toys, while negating all of the potential value and risk of pair bonding with the woman attached to them, is not really making any “progress” at all. Your lizard brain is playing tricks on you, bro! How many children do you want to make? If it is one or more, do you want them to be with a basically random “hot” girl, that you have not vetted in any way other than her (suicidally foolish) willingness to fuck you on a first meeting? You are literally sorting for a type of woman that may make a poor mother, long term companion, or wife.
Notice I am taking the tack of self-interest, leaving the responsibility for the woman’s risks firmly in their hands, because anything less would be patriarchal dis-empowerment. EVERYONE should be left to sleep in the bed they have made for themselves. I am no White Knight!
Notch count is a numbers game inevitably leading towards accidental procreation. Hey, if you want 3 baby mommas by your thirties, continue your reckless beaver hunt. I’m not impressed. I say that you should not be impressed either.
I really had to respond to this. I am a 23 year old female and its the EXACT same to me. I used to cry a lot about being single, I used to be VERY angry that I couldn’t find a boyfriend and guys that I were talking to kept telling me I need to get laid… so eventually I was like “Okay, maybe they have a point.” I then realized that masterbating does help. I find that if I don’t masterbate I get crazier and all I can think about is having a boyfriend and feeling that type of closeness with a guy but I feel that when I masterbate, it kind of helps me be more calm. I still want a boyfriend but not as badly. I do think masterbating helps actually. XD And No I am not trolling this just from personal experience.
You suffer from depression/Bi Polar disorder. Thats it. Search it up. Your welcome.
This guy is an imbecile, he keeps reverting back to masturbation after a certain period of time, this will reopen the neuro-pathway and undo all your good work by reactivating masturbation as a dopamine source. It’s like any drug you wouldn’t say well I’ve gone 2 months from heroine, I spose ill do heroine for a day…
being reliant on any unnatural forms of dopamine is a beta attitude in my opinion.
He even says at the end ‘I know i can’t go forever’ (not masturbating) why can’t you?
Bashing shouldn’t be seen as a normal thing for men, either go fuck a woman or leave it alone. that desire that the author and other men to wank again is not being overly horny that’s a common misconception it is just your brain trying to trick you into reactivating the dopamine (like any addiction)
Think about the great men in history can you imagine them bashing one out on their lonesome over some imaginary woman, porn or whatever, NO it’s beta as fuck and there will be benefits once you quite I guarantee it. I used to granted but there’s no going back for me the benefits are too great. Just because it is socially acceptable in the western world doesn’t mean it’s okay. men in arab countries and the eastern world (generally) wouldn’t even consider bashing…EVER.
Man the fuck up guys and stop being beta bitches.
While I agree with your point in general, according to statistics the arab/muslim countries are the top porn downloaders in the world. Just saying.
yeah I was more going on my experience having travelled to some arab/muslim countries and having spoken to the guys about this topic, it’s not considered a normal thing like in the western world. It’s seen as deviant or that only loser guys would be doing it.
In contrast where I live (the UK) or america It’s practically pushed in books on sexuality for young boys and parents say it’s perfectly normal etc. In fact when I was at school in my very early teens, if you didn’t bash or admit to it you would be considered weird, from girls and boys respectively, of course we were just kids but you see how we have been conditioned to think of it as a socially acceptable behaviour, (even if we didn’t do it in the living room sitting next to the family!)
Yeah that’s right.
I stopped masturbating once, worst 5mins of my life.
I, personally, am on the fence about masturbation. I’m a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, and my religion thinks masturbation is wrong. However, I don’t have the opportunities you have to relieve your sexual tension. I’ve never been on a date, I’ve never kissed a girl (let alone get in her pants), and I’m 25.
It would seem to me that you’re cheating because you are using women to relieve your tensions. I think it would be a real challenge for you if you had no stimulated ejaculations (with a partner or otherwise). No sexual contact with anyone, yourself included.
I’m on day 7, going to release them tomorrow at the massage parlor lol.
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You’re a real asshole the way you speak about women and you have a serious lack of self respect. I wouldn’t fuck you if my life depended on it- and if some guy came in ten seconds I would probably scream and kick them the fuck out of my apartment…
Shut up bi*ch! This was so inspiring!!!
You think this is bad? You should hear how some females talk… ten times worst… at least!
Guys. My first jerk off period was on 25/09/2007 but I quit yesterday so it’s almost 7 years. Although, I will never intend to masturbate again, I wanted to know how long it would take for me to gain all the energy and power I lost.
You a real dude!!! RESPECT!! Aye I’m using the too short’s song freaky tales and this article as inspiration for my NF run
First off I am one these unlucky guys that females don’t go for and one day i just said fuck it then…which led me to give up on that and accept it. I don’t care honestly no more I quit masturbating all together but after a few weeks the feeling goes way to want to for me anyway?, I no longer visit porn sites or anything that has do with females…I ignore it all! and I go with what the forces of nature wants for me and I will admit my life has got better because of it since I wiped wanting anything to do with females from my mind and life, I am more free and overall more happy, I am stronger in the gym my energy level is sky high and I just enjoy doing what I like to do more and at the end of the day it is priceless and something that I don’t want to give up because of a female so lady’s you are not wanted no more and this time its by choice not yours;) lmfao
This is awesome.
This is the stupidest thing I’ve ever read. I hope you die soon.
I’ve read a lot of these, and I have to say it seems like it’s different for each person. You have to listen to your body and how it wants to function. It’s probably not best to cut out fapping entirely, but don’t let it control your life. Better yet, don’t let WOMEN control your life. Sex is great, but it shouldn’t be what you live for. Part of the most important things that comes along with the efforts of not masturbating is the efforts you put into every other part of your life. Not just your job, but your personal interests and habits, and your personal relationships with normal people (not sexual, just normal). You should not be walking around thinking about who’s DTF. Sex will happen naturally with the RIGHT WOMEN if you slow down and let it happen instead of pursuing some bimbos at a bar. And once that happens, you may actually find yourself extremely happy. Save the aggression for your job. Channel into the way you handle problems and big projects. If sex is still distracting you, and it’s not because you’re in a personal relationship with a woman you think could be the one of your dreams, then maybe you need to rethink your priorities. Nonetheless this was a good read. The more examples we have out there, the closer we’ll get to finding an answer to these types of questions.
Hi, is there a difference between ejaculating when having sex and ejaculating by M? I noticed your 165 days of NF you have ejaculated with sex in between. On the day you stop NF and blew, you say immediately you feel totally indifferent to girls. Does that happen after you ejaculate with sex? Do you have any noted difference in feelings and physiology between the 2.
I just read this and I am going to try it
If anyone wants to know how to speed up this process to see the benfits sooner take zma.its a supplement for working out but if you don’t masterbate and take this every night it will speed up the process tremendously.zinc magnesium and vitamin b6.
wow that was a pretty cool article & i can definitely relate to how easy it is to approach women after nf for a couple weeks..when i first joined the air force i went to basic training for 7 weeks so didnt bust one that whole time. thats when i discovered the mental & physical benefits of NF. i was like a God on the basketball court..like my focus was sooo crazy that i rarely ever missed shots & my legs never felt heavy bt i was also somewhat of an asshole from the build up lol. My memory also improved tremendously as i went through my first couple weeks of tech school until i gave in one day lol instantly i felt tired & groggy all the time & never wanted to go out..just sit around & watch porn when i did want a women.. its been about 6 yrs since i went that long (3months) but now i am ready to try again thanks to your article.
masturbation is natural – get rid of all your alpha and beta bs
This is stupid I fap and bang works both ways
Roflmfao!! Dang, man. You almost murdered me with that picture of the eruption, especially with the “The End” on top. Haven’t laughed that hard in a long time.
This is the most depressing article I’ve ever read. Guys really are this compulsive? Do you ever dream? Do you envision things beyond orgasm? Where is the psychology of it? The mental landscapes of your thoughts has to be just, devoid of color. Fetish probably confuses the fuck out of you. There’s no depth to your encounters, and I seriously doubt you have any real concern for your partners. Do you even think about getting her off? Does it matter? You’re literally guided by your compulsion. This is proof of why masturbation is probably man’s best friend. Because women aren’t flesh lights dude. If anything flesh lights might even be better. That said, this was fucking hilarious to read, but for all the wrong reasons.
While it may not be possible for very young men, I recommend that you masturbate as have sex as much as you like, but strictly limit ejaculation. For one year, I allowed myself to ejaculate only on one day a week (I would often still average 7 orgasms per week – you do the math). This kept my mind and body strong, and I did not have to deny myself anything other than climax. (one downside was that I was in a near coma the day after ejaculation day).
With regard to pornography, it may have deleterious effects on the mind, but it can also help you to prepare for a physical or social challenge, provided, again, that you do not squander your heightened arousal through ejaculation.
wow.. you my friend are a sex addict, get some help.
This artical is very misleading!!! Not masturbating can actually lead to serious health problems (Especially in older people) My grandfather is 70 and he just went through a terrible process where we though he had prostate cancer. After many tests and doctors it turned out he only had an infection. However a very bad infection that has damaged his prostate. My grandfather has been married for over 40 years and my grandma just passed 2 years ago. The doctor informed us that sometimes the absence or lack of masturbation is a sign of depression. When this happens (AKA No Masturbation) you put your body at higher risk of infection. This is bc ejaculation also serves the prostate and urethra as it relies on ejaculation to remove bacteria and unwanted build up. If you do get an infection, hope it’s a uti bc infection of the prostate can lead to serious complications. My grandfather is lucky bc this is his first prostate infection he’s ever got and he’s already lived most of his life. However younger men who don’t masturbate or have sex are prone to these infections and if you get these infections enough times it can cause serious health complications. The doctor explained to me that lack of sex or masturbation is very bad and according to mental health studies your brain needs sexual release to feel 100%. People who don’t masturbate are at higher risk of mental health problems like (Depression, Anxiety Ect) So idk who wrote this article but it is not true. Always ask your doctor before making changes to your health, especially if your changing your health based off of a trend/fad.
Quote: “Guys can get hung up on whether they masturbate too much. But it’s not how many times you masturbate in a week (or day) that really matters, says Logan Levkoff, PhD, a sexologist and sex educator. It’s how it fits into your life”
Masturbation is a natural function that the body needs (For some people more or less) Your penis is not making your decisions, your mind is. This is the root of the problem for men struggling with love, lust and fetishes. Your mind and the way you mentally associate sex and love to real life. The past experiences that defined women or sex for you.
[When someone commits commits a murder, we don’t blame his hands]
best article about it! haha
this is insane. i’m trying to stop it. My focus is to have more dominant presence in my work place and in some social situations. already put 2 or 3 days period without it but I fail then I’m back. Got weird results in these tries. Since the last 48 hours I’m in another try. More weird results already!
Dude I felt so emotional last night. Some emotional & psychological problems I already solved ages ago caught me last night haha. I cried like a baby for a few minutes. As that problems already solved was new problems! oh hhaha poor me. But after a good sleep I’m fine now and I think I’m seeing the trick. That is the addiction for the dopamine levels
Let’s see how long I can handle this try haha
Dude, I’m gonna be honest, the point of the chastity is about putting sexual things out of your mind so you can understand life without it. It seems like all you did was rile it up even more. Nice work on it all but I can’t help feeling you missed the point
It doesn’t matter if you stop masturbating if you have sex…It’s like doing LCHF but still eaing bacon…I didn’t fap for 4 months now. No sex no masturbation. Now that’s a real No FAP
You want to know why the United States is a mess? (other then because prostitution isn’t legal, but that’s another story…) It’s because the Baby Jesus and his priests don’t give young men REAL wisdom like the article above. Conversations about: is it better to or not to masturbate five times a day (backed with scientifically proven data) are way more important to a 10-34 year old then- “The sons of Levi were Gershon, Kohath, Merari, yada yada..”
This dude might be serious you know…
What lucky,lucky woman will you settle on and breed with? My girlfriends and I are all so terribly envious.Just reading these words that are sprinkled with such poetic observation towards the human condition and your clear and unabiding depth of romantic respect for the fairer sex,so exciting to read in a world that is seemingly lost its connection to human communication and actual affection.You are an example if a “real man” in a world of lost and directionless “little boys”.How ever does a women get the heavenly pleasure of your superior intellect ? This must have been deeply trying and terribly painful for you to write.Have the Nobel Peace prize people gotten in touch yet? Maybe hold your breath,I’m certain that it will happen at any moment.
If you’re being promiscuous you’re completely missing the point and may give up no fap altogether.