Reading the letter of Thomas Ball, written shortly before his public suicide, a man may be inclined to think it would be better to be a woman, even if just a little. Women get so much: special homeless shelters, an act against violence with a government office, greater funding in food stamps, near-unilateral protection by child services, the license to take a child of the opposite sex to go potty when working in childcare, social acceptance to spend their lives outside the workforce, a broader variety of fashion, media attention after false rape accusations, wider choice on whom they can have sex with, the ability to avoid a traffic ticket by crying, et cetera.
Such talk of female privilege is not merely limited to the internet. In the secret alcoves all over the nation, men whisper to each other about the oppression, afraid that they might be ostracized should anyone hear them. You know the old joke:
Q: “How does every sexist joke start?”
A: “By looking to see if there are any other people in the room.”
The dogma of the day is in conflict with what the majority of what both men and women believe, yet still the masses are kept down by Big Radical Feminist. Whatever shall we men do? Powerless, shall we pine to be on the other side? Like Louis Armstrong singing about being “white on the inside,” shall we wish we were women, or at the least envy them?
The Mystique Of The Feminine Mind
Abso-fucking-lutely not. Why would anyone envy women? Sure, I’ve always wanted to be a lesbian, if only for a few years, but that’s comparatively insignificant. The drawbacks are far heavier the benefits. The most obvious drawback is the body. There’s a reason that men don’t squawk about how independent they are. Women are tiny. Almost any woman could be raped and killed by almost any man regardless of all the self-defense classes and jazzercise she does. Let’s not kid ourselves. Women live in a constant state of fear, which is why they keep screaming about being strong and empowered. A truly strong and empowered person has no need to convince himself of it.
But the body is not the main reason I wouldn’t want to be a woman. By far the most terrible thing about being a woman is having a woman’s mind. Sure, they have better time-management skills, but that just means they’re wired for service. Women suck complete shit at objective reasoning. Why did you hate high school English? Because a woman taught it, and she told you that a poem can mean whatever you want it to. They couldn’t expect you to do something they could never figure out themselves.
I’m in law school right now. Unsurprisingly, I couldn’t find any data for what fields of law women tend to study, but from what I’ve seen, they are almost always either “fun” fields like child advocacy, sports, or entertainment, or “clean” fields like tax law or prosecution. Women don’t study divorce, custody, criminal defense, or anything that is morally vague or subject to interpretation. They make better grades, but that just means that they are wired for studying for tests. It is said that there are twice as many law jobs as there are new law graduates, but that’s because people specialize in bullshit fields that are flooded by cowards. If you study law, you will either learn moral flexibility or die in poverty.
Also unsurprisingly, the kind of men and women who go to law school aren’t the type of people who read Return of Kings. I realize that doesn’t have anything to do with the female mind, but this seems as good as any place to make that observation. Law school attracts the absolute worst in humanity. Weak, cowardly men and cutthroat, entitled women.
Moving on. Have you been looking for that girlfriend who just gets you? The kind you can talk about anything to? You’re on that first date, and as it both turns out, she loves Siouxsie and the Banshees, just like you! What luck! You excitedly being to talk about what their influences were, how they shaped their sound, what was the band’s effect on later music, and what the critical points in the band’s history were. At best she’s unresponsive, and at worst she loses all interest in you.
Women are terrible at historical criticism, philosophy, or anything that involves value judgments, and they generally seem uninterested in it unless it directly affects them. This is because a woman will always argue the person, not the issue. There’s a reason St Paul said that women should never teach or speak in church. Women just aren’t equipped to perform with men when it comes to deep thinking, and that is why all the women’s liberation in the world will never enable them to accomplish much worth remembering. For example, rock music has always been pretty liberal, and there have been exactly two well-known and talented instrumentalists in all of its history: Nancy Wilson of Heart and Kim Deal of The Pixies. Imagine all of the money record companies could have made had they been able to find a talented female rock band.
Being Fair In Our Judgments
At this point, many people will say I hate women or think they are evil, but that is…to use your word…ignorant. To tell a woman not to be manipulative, self-serving, or finicky is to tell a hawk not to devour a mouse. It is in a woman’s nature to act like a woman, and so it is unjust for us men to judge them for being so. To hold women to the same standard as men is the greatest discrimination.
Does this mean that women are inferior? In most ways, yes. Fortunately, men are hard-wired for sex, so we have a reason to talk to them. Remember your childhood. Before you hit puberty, you absolutely discarded girls. To be a girl was the worst thing in your eyes, and to be friends with a girl was to be sick in the head. The only females you considered to have human value were the adults who provided for you. If a little boy is ever friends with a little girl, it’s always because he has a crush on her (I’ll never forget you, Jennifer Dolphin. Please get a Facebook.).
Some people will say that I’ll never get laid with such a view of women, but most people who would accuse me of that either never get laid themselves or are women. It’s been proven again and again that women love assholes. If they didn’t, then men would never mistreat women. The reality is that women have no value to men beyond sex, children, and housework.
Feminists have been screeching for years about how men and women shouldn’t need each other, but they’ve never given any reasons for why we should want each other. I have far more in common with my male friends than I have with any woman. If a woman isn’t screwing me or somehow related to me familially, I have no reason to talk to her beyond, “Did you get those TPS reports?” Sex appeal is the greatest weapon women have in their arsenal, and they’d be wise to invest it for the long-term instead of the short-term while they are young.
Taming The Shrew
Women, of course, will never understand their inferiority any more than a child can understand his. You cannot argue with a child. Instead, you must discipline to build good behavior, and in time, that good behavior will turn into a worldview. The same is true with women. Women are inherently terrible people, and you can’t correct their bad behavior with words alone. No, you must tame the shrew using positive and negative reinforcement.
Religion is best for the job, but in today’s pluralistic marketplace, that’s often not an option. Furthermore, society has decided it’s best for women to continue acting like children, ever focused on their wants instead of their shoulds. But with a subtle reward and punishment system, you can turn the any promiscuous harpy into a submissive virgin bride. Perhaps I am a fool, but I like to believe the best in people.
You cannot tell the hawk not to devour the mouse any more than you can verbally teach a woman right from wrong. You can hate the effects of women, but you cannot call women evil. Every strong, empowered woman at heart is a scared little child lost in the woods. She’ll never admit it to herself, but every woman has a Disney fantasy about some strong man taking her away and becoming her identity. Those movies made a fuckload of money for a reason. Be her identity.
The Glass Ceiling Within
So a man should never envy women. Women have advantages in society, but they are trapped with themselves. If a man wants to avoid his wife for a few hours, he can go to the golf course, but the wife will never be able to escape herself. There is no shelter from her own idiocy except in the guidance of a man, whether that man is her husband, her father, or her brother.
To have ignorance of your own insufficiency is the worst prison. A woman is like a drunk man who claims that he is merely buzzing. He thinks he is orderly, but all those around him laugh at his antics, and he grows angry. They take away his car keys and cell phone, and he thinks they are oppressing him. This is the natural state of the woman, and without the tempering force of patriarchy, there is nothing to prevent her from destroying her life and the lives of those around her. Why would you envy that?
Read More: All Women Are Sheep
Ummm … Wow. Just. Wow.
Ever notice how women will comment, if only to say that the subject matter is so challenging they are rendered speechless?
So glad I am not female.
It’s their way of saying “PLEASE, BETA ORBITING WHITE KNIGHTS, SAVE ME FROM THE TRUTH!”
Women resist truth like fatties resist dieting.
And fat chicks lie to themselves about being attractive.
No one likes a fat man get to the gym.
“Women and homosexuals are discouraged from commenting here.”
Too bad you’re powerless to stop us. (: Being poweless is the bane of your sad existence though, isnt it?
What is sad is that post-whale women’s skin is very stretched out and looks like a popped balloon 🙁
Why would you insult your white knights like that? Mean.
fat men are good enough for fat women.
I second this^1000000000000…etc
Yes I know and it’s getting out of hand. I’m guilty too for occasionally taking the bait. I’d rather get it back to just us guys, even the guys who think I’m blue or don’t like my posts. We need a few islands to ourselves in this hostile arena of life we now find ourselves in.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. A real man craves the truth. A woman, even a nicer one will make her own truth. Not only will she make it but change it on a whim. You have no idea how much I wish I had caught on to that when I was younger.
That’s funny, there is an italian saying that states: man have fact and woman have words.
Dumb bitches cant read.
You have to shoot them right between the eyes with it. I think in porn it is lovingly called, “The Money Shot.”
No, fat chicks use excuses like “eating disorder” and “medical problems”. Please look up Kendall Rae on Youtube. Roosh mentioned her in his “Meet your new Youtube Censors” article. In particular, take the time to watch her and her “food unboxing video”. She does this with her chubby little fag friend and it is hilarious. Read the “you go girl” comments that are posted. I threw down a challenge for her to tell what her “medical problems” are. Might be sweet payback.
“She has a cute face”. Yeah, wait till it sags and she has more chins than chinatown.
They do both and no, I will not be looking up some fat chick. I just got done eating lunch. It’d be a shame to vomit it all up.
True but men don’t from fat acceptance clubs because were expected to do something about our weight and not cry about it while trying to convince society that Big is Beautiful….
but apparently they can comment
well what the hell will you do about it loser you don’t own the internet
Awww, buttercup…he’s long moved on to greener pastures. Maybe you should too…
Hey “Jessica”,
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I can’t help but notice that your syntax, grammar, and style are identical to a few other identities posting on this stories.
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In another startling coincidence, many of those identities were created just to post a single time. Most have 10 or fewer postings.
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Almost as if one person were trolling multiple personalities to simulate a crowd.
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Astroturf much, Cupcake?
Because nobody is nice for the hell of it. Nice people disguise agendas with kindness. Better an honest jerk then a nice liar.
Like wow…..I can’t even! I just can’t, I can’t.
‘Ever notice how women will comment, if only to say that the subject matter is so challenging they are rendered speechless?’
they are speechless by men’s audacity to point out things that are unpleasant to them. i won’t put the blame entirely on women though, white-knighting dudes are the real problems.
in a world where white-knighting dudes barely exist aka islamic world, women dare not raise their voices against their husbands.
an moslem version of ray rice will be commended for teaching his wife on how to properly behave.
They also get their attention fix when guys respond… it was an interesting experiment.
I think they love to hear it.
Beautifully put. I look back on relationships with misbehaving women, and I realize now that I let them down for not punishing them for their misbehavior.
To whom it may concern:
I find it hilarious that all you guys think that all women are ignorant and can’t defend themselves, or are in some kind of “Knight” to save them. It’s the most close-minded, ignorant thing I’ve probably ever heard of.
Sure, there’s tons of ignorant bitches out there, there’s no denying that. But they’re tons of ignorant dickheads (such as yourselves) who feel the need to put down someone (the opposite sex, someone of another race.. basically anyone you find weaker than you) to feel empowered yourself. We get it- breakups suck, cheaters suck, that guy who just cut you off on the highway sucks. But get the fuck over it and start acting like adults. Everyone has opinions, everyone has thoughts, and none of them are all the same. NO ONE is the same. You are not the alpha race, and you are not the alpha sex. Everyone is equal. (Well, in theory).
Dipshits.
And this is coming from a woman who’s (not to be cocky, but) a damn good archer, can hold down a good job, spends most of her time in the bookstore reading on different subjects, kickboxes and does some mixed martial arts, is considered by many to be “beautiful” (again, I’m not being cocky, but I know some asshole will say “she’s probably just some ugly weak geek girl”), and I am incredibly tired of ignorant people and you thinking that it’s just okay to go around and shame people for whatever you want when its NOT YOUR GODDAMN PLACE.
(I also find it laughable that one guy (“truth”) said to pick up a Bible, that’d it do us some “good”. It’d do you some good to actually read some of the shit in there. And by shit, I really do mean shit.)
And with that, I leave you all. Have fun jerking it to lesbian porn later.
‘I find it hilarious that all you guys think that all women are
ignorant and can’t defend themselves, or are in some kind of “Knight” to save them. It’s the most close-minded, ignorant thing I’ve probably ever heard of.’
the one being ignorant is you, when anarchy or war breaks out, women are 2nd easiest prey after children. janay looks ferocious and daring until ray rice started defending himself with a single punch. women are only “powerful” as long as the white knights allow them to be.
‘And this is coming from a woman who’s (not to be cocky, but) a damn good archer, can hold down a good job, spends most of her time in the bookstore reading on different subjects, kickboxes and does some mixed martial arts, is considered by many to be “beautiful” (again, I’m not being cocky, but I know some asshole will say “she’s probably just some ugly weak geek girl”)’
you maybe an better archer than robin hood and may as well beat the crap out of jon jones but if 3 or even just 2 healthy average-built men decided they want to subdue you then unless you’re wonder-woman then there’s not much you can do so please enough with your chest-thumping rhetoric.
‘and I am incredibly tired of ignorant people and you thinking that it’s just okay to go around and shame people for whatever you want when its NOT YOUR GODDAMN PLACE.’
why are you even here anyway? this is manosphere, we men are right where we belong, you’re the one who is not at your goddamn place. if you want to hear all the touchy-feely goody-goody amazing stuffs about women then you’ll be better served at jezebel.
‘And with that, I leave you all. Have fun jerking it to lesbian porn later.’
thank you, i do enjoy watching lesbian porn especially the ones with the zebra couples.
You came here, to look me in the eye, and disgrace my love of lesbian porn? You ma’am are anti American. Fuck Your Couch!
Tell her!! Come in here shaming lesbian. Don’t let her go shaming Sensual Jane!! She is a national treasure!
Notice how the manosphere is teeeeny tiny while the rest of the world moves on cohabitating peacefully with us gawd awful women.
Notice how the manosphere is teeeeny tiny while the rest of the world moves on cohabitating peacefully with us gawd awful women.
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The manosphere isn’t the only thing that’s small. I can’t recall ever hearing about another girl crying because she was so unsatisfied with sex! I know for sure I’ve never had to do that! My husband actually has a dick, and knows how to use it too! (Reference: Going back to the “piercing addict,” she was a complete masochist who would burst into tears every time after we had sex, crying about how I wasn’t banging her hard enough. http://www.returnofkings.com/45334/5-reasons-why-girls-with-tattoos-andor-piercings-are-broken, under “Mentally Ill.”)
I’m only powerful because the “white knights” allow me to be. Okay then. Certainly, the world would get so far if it was only inhabited by men! *sarcasm*
And, by the way, I love *most* men. I am married to a wonderful man, whom I treat with respect, and he treats me just as well. I don’t “need” anyone. And he doesn’t “need” anyone. It’s not about neediness. It’s about love. I can work on my own house and switch out the transmission in my car, I did that before he came along, and I still do my half because we each have our strengths. I have only slept with one person ever (him) and he didn’t marry me for the sex or the kids. Again, it’s about love, but I’m sure the author just doesn’t understand that concept.
It’s not his fault, he’s just inferior in that aspect!
We must be the one to use matriarchal society to shelter him from his stupidity!
‘ I can’t recall ever hearing about another girl crying because she was so unsatisfied with sex! ‘
you must be living in solitary then. women complain about men not “man-up”, men fear commitment, where have all good men gone, men my age won’t date me, etc etc.
‘ I’m only powerful because the “white knights” allow me to be. Okay then. Certainly, the world would get so far if it was only inhabited by men! *sarcasm* ‘
you think you’re being sarcastic but there’re lot of truths in what you’re saying. once men mastered sufficiently-advanced technology to create realistic sexbots then basically men have no further use for women.
‘ And, by the way, I love *most* men. I am married to a wonderful man, whom I treat with respect, and he treats me just as well. ‘
so you’re not in a monogamous marriage? i mean, should you only supposed to love your husband instead of most men?
‘ I don’t “need” anyone. And he doesn’t “need” anyone. It’s not about neediness. It’s about love. ‘
but even the exalted love needs oxygen, don’t you think? without oxygen you and your husband be dead, can dead people feel love or love each other? and btw, if love is a thing you can not go without in life then yes you are in neediness for love.
‘ Again, it’s about love, but I’m sure the author
just doesn’t understand that concept. It’s not his fault, he’s just inferior in that aspect! ‘
au contraire, the more you are dependent on something then the less liberated and independent you are. i had liberated myself from the clutch of love, now if only i can find a way to liberate myself from oxygen…………………………ok that was only a minute and i couldn’t hold my breath any longer.
I think all these men had their hearts ripped out by women who took them for everything they had which is wrong because we do have certain privileges and to take advantage of them is criminal. I feel bad for these guys in a way but I don’t feel bad that I’m a woman because I fulfill my role. Much like you. Glad to see your input.
Its because deep inside they are turned on by a man that tells them what they really want. The only response? “oooh wow!”
Bithes so dumb just like black and mexican.
What do u have against black or mexican?
if you guys are so against women then stop dating them
Old saying: women, can’t live with then, can’t live without then.
Nobody is hating, we are just highlighting the problems with modern women.
Rendered and speechless uh?
I have to admit that this article is well written. But, why would a man envy a woman or a woman envy a man? Why would us as human beings envy anything about the opposite sex? There are upsides to being a man and or woman as well as the downsides. I don’t preach equality, because men and woman aren’t equals in retrospect. We may be equals in the workplace ( depending on where you work) or simply as having a few beers with a group of friends. Honestly, it’s as far as it goes. It is true that men built this country, but women gave birth to those men and raised them to be successful. But, it’s the 21st century, we have more single parents(men and women alike) who work their asses off to provide a good life for their children. We have parents who both work because it’s not enough to survive of one sole income anymore. Then we have the women who choose to stay home to take care of their children and their husbands make enough money to support them both in every aspect. Then,
Of course you have dead beat mothers and farthers who would rather party all night, do drugs, leave their children with complete strangers, and are in out jail and their children end up in the system. And every great once in a while those children will get adopted by a family that will love and cherish them.
And, true men are hard wired for sex, but so are women we’re more about an emotional connection and once in a great while men want that too. I do believe not all men are emotionally disconnected. And, it’s very true that every woman goes through the dating an douche stage, some just stay there because it’s what they feel they deserve. (I won’t say asshole because all men can be assholes, but not all men are douchbags.) Men are just as guilty dating skanks, who cheat on them multiple times and treat them like shit. ( I don’t say bitch because all women can be bitches.)
Us as human beings tend to settle ad stay in toxic relationships because we feel we can’t do any better. I for one refuse to believe that. Men and women are different, we think differently, feel things differently, have different views and opinions. Men can do things a woman simply cannot do and women can do things a man simply cannot do. Therefore, we are not and never will be truly equals when comes down to simple facts.
Excellent article. Intelligent women really do get it, however, that is a small minority. The last paragraph really is WOW!
by your logic are you a woman
I cannot fathom why any man would ever envy a woman. To quote “O Brother, Where Art Thou:” That don’t make no sense.
In before hordes of “outraged” women and white knights invade the comment section and Roosh needs to do yet another server upgrade LOL
No worries. Their hamster brains only get agitated over things like tattoos, fat shaming, and oatmeal facials.
No worries. Their hamster brains only get agitated over things like tattoos, fat shaming, and oatmeal facials.
I am sure if the ROK authors posted an article about women should not be educated…we’d see a different group of women flood in.
Should we test this hypothesis? 🙂
I am sure if the ROK authors posted an article about women should not be educated…we’d see a different group of women flood in.
Should we test this hypothesis? 🙂
You know, I was wondering, to test a, um, hypothesis, I wonder if we would got lots of women flooding in if the ROK authors posted an article about women saying that they should not be educated.
Nope.
OK, ignore me.
Yeah I noticed that. Of all the things covered here at ROK, the threadnaught was over… tattoos? WTF?
It only emphasizes even more the fucked up priorities of women and their fem-brained beta chump followers.
This article is written normally, so reading requires attention. List posts with simpler language work better to attract hordes of outraged women. Also, this topic here is more abstract than tattoos so they don’t bother.
There was an article about a man surviving alone in the arctic. And women don’t seem much interested in that.
The mob is fickle.
Author: “I’m in law school right now.”
Author (1 paragraph down): “Law school attracts the absolute worst in humanity. Weak, cowardly men and cutthroat, entitled women.” LOL
“…but that’s because people specialize in bullshit fields that are flooded by cowards.” ‘Bullshit fields…cowards’ being the context of the paragraph you site. You’re welcome.
No no, he didn’t say “Bullshit law divisions attract the absolute worse in humanity”, he said “//Law school// attracts the absolute worse in humanity.”
You’re welcome.
“…but that’s because people specialize in bullshit fields that are flooded by cowards.” ‘Bullshit fields…cowards’ being the context of the paragraph you site. You’re welcome.
He’s implying that people who don’t read ROK are also the weak, cowardly men, and cutthroat, entitled women. He obviously reads ROK, as he writes for it, so he not counting himself. This is a logical statement; the worst in humanity tend to be lawyers. He did not say lawyers tend to be the worst in humanity. Those statements are not equivalent, and it takes a refined mind to grasp that.
He’s implying that people who don’t read ROK are also the weak, cowardly men, and cutthroat, entitled women. He obviously reads ROK, as he writes for it, so he not counting himself. This is a logical statement; the worst in humanity tend to be lawyers. He did not say lawyers tend to be the worst in humanity. Those statements are not equivalent, and it takes a refined mind to grasp that.
All opinions of course. I would not define someone who reads ROK to be an upstanding citizen.
Actually, no. Logic, and a logical argument, is reason, not opinion, and not dismissible by simply saying everyone has a different one. As to your latest premise, I must ask why you are here if you feel that way. Please also indicate if you are a homosexual or simply a feminist apologist; the rules of the site prevent posting by, and responding to, the former.
Just because it’s a logical argument to you, does not mean it is actually logical.
That is quite arrogant and conceited (just like the feminists) to think you know what’s best for humanity.
Neither.
Opinions are usally formed upon individual logic using reason.
He said one truth about himself, finally! 😀
“Feminists have been screeching for years about how men and women shouldn’t need each other, but they’ve never given any reasons for why we should want each other. I have far more in common with my male friends than I have with any woman. If a woman isn’t screwing me or somehow related to me familially, I have no reason to talk to her beyond, “Did you get those TPS reports?”
I’ve always felt that way about them. Even before I discovered game I was never friends with girls or women. We have nothing in common, they typically have only shallow knowledge about things I’m interested in and overall they’re pretty dumb because they’re allowed to skate by on their looks.
“We have nothing in common, they typically have only shallow knowledge about things I’m interested in and overall they’re pretty dumb because they’re allowed to skate by on their looks.”
That was one hell of a run-on sentence. Please enlighten me further about the stupidity of my gender.
Are you losing the argument, little Kora? Point out grammar!
Its not a last ditch effort, it’s a legitimate strategy!
Replying to chicks is against the rules.
Not only that, she’s completely wrong. It’s a list.
I was being sarcastic. I was actually following truths original post.
OK. It wasn’t a run on sentence, it was beyond your comprehension. If you ever read a book meant for an adult you’ll find that his sentence is pretty standard.
Any other inadequacies you’d like me to investigate?
Funny thing, I can agree completely. Nothing is more disconcerting than saying something and seeing someone say “Huh?” I find I have to break down my arguments far too often to enjoy an intelligent conversation with most women. Now the sexual side I use is all sides and pretty vapid. If I didn’t want sex, I’d probably go the way of the monk and just get off mentally. Inventing things
Dude, Bonnie Raitt is a million times better than Deal or Wilson…
Yeah a decent slide guitarist. I like some of Chrissy Hynde’s stuff too, tho she’s hardly a master musician. Liked Laura Nyro back in the day. Cheers.
God, Law School sounds like financial suicide. Even if you get into a T 14, there are no assurances that you have a good job for decades (a career) … every lawyer I know hates their job.
All of the “good” jobs in consulting, finance, law, and government have a very large applicant pool and a very small window of opportunity for persons who are unconnected (no matter their intelligence).
The job market has become so pathological you probably could substitute “law school” with almost any study or training. The return-on-investment is abysmal in all but a few cases.
Yea, it’s cut throat as hell.
Man up will no longer be optional in the coming decade.
The job market has become so pathological you probably could substitute “law school” with almost any study or training. The return-on-investment is abysmal in all but a few cases.
Notice that the dirty fields Blair mentioned—divorce, custody, criminal defense—all have a lot of people needing those services.
Well women are supposedly self-aware so if they can’t escape themselves that is their own fault.
They are self-aware which is what terrifies them. Even when they act crazy they know they are being crazy but they cannot restrain themselves. This is why they desire a strong man who will keep their uncontrollable emotions in check.
It is ridiculous how often I will have a girl tell me to actually police what I allow them to get away with. I always tell the, “don’t worry I will.” It’s like you said, they actually know they will make poor decisions and want help preventing that. I don’t know any self-respecting man that would do that.
#1 reason I’m glad not to be a woman? I can genuinely have respect for myself (not hamsterizing). Bad people get away with some bad things, and good people can suffer bad things. But at the end of the day, we all have to (or get to) live with ourselves.
#1 reason I’m glad not to be a woman? I can genuinely have respect for myself (not hamsterizing). Bad people get away with some bad things, and good people can suffer bad things. But at the end of the day, we all have to (or get to) live with ourselves.
As Steve Sailer recently noted:
Female Secret Service Agents Aren’t Actually Buttkicking Babes Like in Blockbuster Movies
http://www.unz.com/isteve/female-secret-service-agents-arent-actually-hollywood-style-buttkicking-babes/
BTW, I’ve noticed that the covers of a lot of gun magazine quarterlies oriented towards self-defense and survival feature photos of feminine white women pointing guns in defensive-looking poses. Some gun nuts have a few screws loose, but on the whole they think a lot like Red Pill people.
http://files.harrispublications.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2014/09/Home-Defense_150_T6A6_soc_313C.jpg
As Steve Sailer recently noted:
Female Secret Service Agents Aren’t Actually Buttkicking Babes Like in Blockbuster Movies
http://www.unz.com/isteve/female-secret-service-agents-arent-actually-hollywood-style-buttkicking-babes/
BTW, I’ve noticed that the covers of a lot of gun magazine quarterlies oriented towards self-defense and survival feature photos of feminine white women pointing guns in defensive-looking poses. Some gun nuts have a few screws loose, but on the whole they think a lot like Red Pill people.
http://files.harrispublications.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2014/09/Home-Defense_150_T6A6_soc_313C.jpg
Empowered Mommy and (pre-Empowered) dotty are pointing that pistola at Y-O-U, there, Atheist Advanceman. Note the intensely masculine look on her mug.
Interesting that you find comfort in their poses. What I see, otoh, is tyranny.
Epic article. So glad this site exists.
Epic article. So glad this site exists.
Although women have so many privileges and life is much easier for them, it is still much better to be a man. Being a man is more difficult because persevering through the challenges that present themselves is ultimately more rewarding. This is why true greatness comes from men instead of women.
Although women have so many privileges and life is much easier for them, it is still much better to be a man. Being a man is more difficult because persevering through the challenges that present themselves is ultimately more rewarding. This is why true greatness comes from men instead of women.
Nope, being married to a rich man is better, I had doubts about my current career and while I finally decided to finish it (only 1 year left) it was kind against my will, I did need to be practical, If I were a woman I would already quit and marry a rich dude, and start a job as a Singer like 2ne1 🙂
To each his own but that is why you will never achieve greatness. To take on the trials men face and have the ambition, motivation and ability to overcome them is more fulfilling. Easier is not always better.
And you are great because…?
I never said I was great. I stated men are the only ones that can achieve true greatness. By commenting on whether I’m great or not completely ignores the point I made.
It’s very often that to achieve greatness you have to sacrifice being a very good person. This is probably because what causes one to have the traits of achieving greatness also causes him to be more detached and cold, and because of obstacles in your road that might need to be dealt with harsh acts. In the words of Lestrade from BBC Sherlock: “Sherlock Holmes is a great guy, if we’re lucky enough one day he might be a good one too”. Not saying that achieving greatness is bad, but we’re not to look down upon simple good people. The problem with westernized females is they’re neither.
This:
a woman will always argue the person, not the issue.
That point resonated as soon as I read your comment Ms guest – or maybe you are a beta white knight?
Say that to Judge Judy on her yacht.
Maybe because the person is the issue? It was stated only men can achieve greatness. If he is a male, he is both a person and part of the issue. What makes him great?
Judge judy is not a feminist, she damned near ripped katy courics head off for even suggesting it.
Did I say she was? Or was I suggesting that she did achieve “true greatness”. In a reponse to the guy who said women couldn’t achieve it.
To each his own but that is why you will never achieve greatness. To take on the trials men face and have the ambition, motivation and ability to overcome them is more fulfilling. Easier is not always better.
It’s better being a rich woman and marrying a rich man combining your income.
Cause women are stafuckers who lie about equality.
Did you graduate high school?
Did you starfucker?
What’s a starfucker?
A woman who is honest about who she fucks.
What does that have to do with anything?
TBH, I’m not quite sure where youngexecutive got that information. Taken straight from the Urban Dictionary, it appears that a “starfucker” is someone who a) sleeps with/ is connected to a legend and think that it makes them a legend as well, or b) someone who sleeps their way to the top.
Although, while I do like this site, I’m not quite sure what point youngexecutive was trying to make. It just seems like a derogatory phrase. I think he (presumably) would have done better to come up with a cohesive argument.
if you take a look at what the dumb bitch and saying it was his responses are referring to, it’s plainly obvious that Alexandria here loves to fuck rich men. that is his implication.
You are so much into status it’s pathetic. You are also cyber Exhibit A lending so much credence into the assertions about women made on this site. In your own way you are a “useful idiot.” Of course you’re so much smarter than all of us here so you know all about that, don’t you?.
I’m so much into status because I said rich people should marry rich people? Oooookkkkk????
I am a woman and my life is much more difficult than most men. My husband adds to that load for i take care of him as well. Left with my jobs for 6 days he was lost and asking everyone we knew for help. There are few hours of sleep for me hours of cleaning, scrubbing, listening to squalling and crying and mounds and mounds of laundry. I can’t drive because of visual impairment so if I need to go somewhere I must walk or take a cab and carry our children with me as well as their carseats. In hardly ever appreciated and I do all my husbands bidding. After everyone goes to bed i have to start on my college assignments which leave me up until 3 in the morning. My schedule for my children starts at 6…. I have zero liezure time. To assume that all women are good for nothing Sluts is not fair or accurate. I never stop moving except to take a shit which in doing now and for the sake of the woman hating on this site I wish I could post the smell.
Cut it out. You have it tough? Try eating and walking to work? Try living on unemployment while getting fired repeatedly? Try having no family to have your back, your assets gone for a failed relationship as a choice and and being considered a failure by your closest friends. Did you ever eat air for a week? Not wash your clothes for months? Use your last buck twenty five to walk to a job, starving, hoping to get work for next week or risk being homeless? Now add this problem by the thousands. This is America for a bunch of men. Go to craigslist and get extra money. Some guy will pay you hundreds just for smiling at him. Harsh isn’t it. This is the life of a man. All or nothing. Sacrifice today for a better tomorrow. Use what is your advantage and stop complaining
In not complaining for the simple factthat I have indeed been in those shoes before I was married. I was living on a park bench when I was pregnant with my first child at 18 because the man say he will take care of us and everything would be ok and he left. Said he didn’t want a baby at the moment. I ate raw potatoes from a home garden nearby and just like you i had no family. I have worked hard and been alone. I used to work on a ranch breaking horses in exchange for food and shelter. My husband saved me from all this but sometimes after constantly wiping everyone else’s cases and getting shit on by unappreciative pricks I would rather work my ass off in the sun and live on the park bench again as it was easier on my sanity.
My statement still stands. Stop the excuses. You have several options and by simply posting this story on 5 sites, craigslist, backpage, youtube, other sites that catter too domestic situations and such. Do what you need to handle your life. This isn’t the place to try and get saved. Handle your life or cry to people in your life. We don’t share problems here. We speak on them briefly at best. We share solutions. Solve your problem on your own time
Oh shut up why do you have to go to the extreme? How about agreeing with her oh wait…you guys don’t know how to do that. BTW that’s not only a problem for men you small minded idiot it’s also a problem for women there are starving men women and children everywhere.
I go to the extreme because it was what I would expect if I were in that situation. Find a solution. Easy to jump on me instead of finding a solution isn’t it? Why aren’t you saving her? Or is it not something that crossed your mind?
Ask yourself that question.
Lol, it hasn’t crossed my mind. But keep deflecting. You clearly are doing your hardest job to make me feel sad for someone you could care less about. Does that feel good to you? Using Brittany’s plight to shame me knowing you could care less what her story is? You care do something. If you don’t continue posting rebuttals for me to help. Cowardly shamer
You’re asking me to help someone when all I asked was why go to the extreme? Why not just say yeah you have it hard? Why is that so hard to do? She’s not asking for help she’s trying to show you that not every woman is worthless. Why do you have to twist it into something ridiculous?
I am extreme in my statement, maybe. Just voicing my intention. No twisting. I don’t have it hard. I have my life. It’s fine. Who said anything about her being worthless? She has her life before she posted. She’ll find her solutions afterwards. Stop being a public advocate and provide solutions if yoou want to care. I don’t. Enjoy your day
Im ok now… The point I was making is that I used to be in that situation so I can relate with those men who struggle or have struggled. People on this site don’t care about subject matter or keeping up with the thread subject its just about men domineering and hating.
There is clearly such a bias of women and schema against us that it doesn’t matter what we say… We will be deemed wrong simply because we are women. If u go up and read u would see i want sharing my problems.
Wasn’t
He has a point though. No woman, or very few, would ever help a broke man on the verge of becoming homeless. On the contrary, they dont mind giving him a few kicks on the way down. Any reasonably attractive woman will never have that problem.
In truth we do care. We don’t communicate like a woman so, for myself, I shoot for a solution first with someone I don’t know. I don’t like to list my problems and mostly care to address solutions when a stranger brings their’s.
Your struggle is yours. Mine is mine. In the ‘real’ world that sharing would be considered cute and fair. Amongst a mostly male group the resounding cryy isn’t looking for someone’s tolerance but facing your problems head on with pride and dignity. If you wish to talk keep Itt awayy from a pity party. I can’t help you
Women have more compassion so I don’t agree. Why is it a woman’s fault that men are suckers for good looks that’s on you guys not us!
Seriously consider the male homeless:
I disagree. I’m a woman myself and I’ve seen women’s “compassion” toward each other. We can be awful to each other. I remember one time in college, two girls were in the lobby of my dorm with their boyfriends. A transgender man in a dress went by and when he was gone, the boyfriends snickered and commented that he didn’t look good in a dress.
Well, their girlfriends got onto them chiding them to have more compassion.
Later, in the restroom I passed that same transgender man leaving the ladies room. Those same two girls were at the mirror and the moment he was gone they started laughing at how ugly he looked in a dress. How he had no business in the ladies room. Did “she” think she was fooling anyone? They were ruthless and made comments worse than anything their boyfriends had made.
But boy did they play the saints in front of the men and act like they were superior.
Lot of men are “a-holes” this is true. At least their honest about it. They don’t pretend they’re anything else.
I’ve seen too much of backhanded insults, hypocrisy, and women’s sadistic side to agree with that. Many women are compassionate only to themselves.
And I’ve met guys like the a-holes on this site. I’ve met them in real life and a lot of them didn’t start out that way. They DID try to be nice and respectful to women in the beginning. And were broken by women.
I’ve seen women delight in breaking men. I’ve heard women brag about it and live a good life off their husband’s paycheck while complaining how he’s never home.
I don’t agree with 95 % of the material on this site or the commenters. I think they are misunderstanding a lot and blinding themselves with anger toward women.
But I can’t say they’re wrong about how nasty women can be. I’ve seen with my own eyes what women can do.
And if the men on this site think their getting the worst of it, they’re fools. Women are FAR, FAR, FAR worse to women.
What guys suffer is nothing but a scratch compared to how women destroy each other.
So guys stop complaining. You have it easy.
Just ignore Alex.
She wants to feel morally superior in this, but has no ability to prove it through a logical debate. She wants to paint you as the bad person and her as understanding. I’ve seen so many people do this (hipster men and women).
Of all the men I’ve ever encountered that were the weakest and most selfish it has to be hipster men. *shudder* And that’s saying something.
Interesting. It is no wonder the older generation of men are vastly more hardened. Without the niceties of political correctness to hamper them they must have gotten the opportunity to dish many a knuckle sandwich followed by a “Shut Da Fuk Up” as they happily walked off. I started to notice that as well. She only reflected while not offering or doing a thing. She even projects the notion of the charity case woman being a worthless human being. Thing is I imagine that would be how she would speak offline but at least here, there is a paper trail.
And hipsters seem to have lost so much testosterone that all they are good for is fashion, being certified beta males and chiding someone else. I appreciate the heads up.
Some cold, hard truths up in here.
When I think back to times when I had to face hardships, how many women do you think would be willing to help me?
Hint: The answer is less than “1.”
My respect to you. If I have found one like you here, I wouldn’t have spent thousands travelling looking for a suitable wife.
Hang in there and it will pay off as it did with me.
Most people that help in charity are women.
Reasonably attractive men usually don’t have that problem as well, or face it much less. But hey, you can only see the advantages attactive women have, because most of you American males have black and white vision and can only see attractive women… while women seen as not attractive enough (even when you guys are not attractive at all) get screwed up all the time.
“Lot of men are “a-holes” this is true. At least their honest about it. They don’t pretend they’re anything else.”
Nah, many try to pretend, see the Nice Guys.
And of course women can be nasty, hey. I agree women usually attack other women, just like most men attack and kill other men.
Most women also didn’t start like that and tried to be nice in the beggining… but they got broken by men. Still THEIR OWN CHOICE to act nasty in the end; the men who broke her (just like the women who broke men) are responsible and to blame for their mistakes; now the broken women who seek hurting men (just like the broken men who seek hurting women) are 100% to blame for their mistakes as well.
Not even your mother? Maybe that is root for everything that happened later, your woman-hating disorder, even homophobia, etc.?
LOL nice hateful, emotion-based response there. I’m entertained, but nothing more.
No, I don’t hate anyone. That’s petty, and for weak men or those with insecurities and personal issues.
Some of us (specifically, men almost always) have been through the “school of hard knocks” in life, unfortunately, but have earned the experience & character that comes with it.
That often comes with acceptance, when one realizes he has no one to rely on ultimately but himself.
I find that more often than not the most unpleasant people are the ones who have had the easier path in life. And the least understanding & tolerant of others.
And that’s correct, some of us could not count on our own mothers when things got hard. We are men, left to survive or die on our own.
More compasion ? I doubt that. Have never seen it. They might have compassion towards their own children but thats it. Rest can go to hell.
Yes by nature women have more compassion then men do.
Too bad they never show it then.
Well guess what if you act and talk like the rest of the guys on here you don’t deserve compassion. So keep it up its obviously not working in your favor.
Im not sure what your talking about, but its something to do with” look at me im compassionate more than any of your understand it faggots wah wah wah !”
I don’t speak Spanish
So it boils down to an argument of who broke who first? But I disagree with women acting like they didn’t have any part in this. And I hate the argument, “Well they are more to blame”. No they aren’t.
Women screw up men. Men screw up women. And both are just fighting over the ruins of the other. But here’s the kicker broken women often try to BREAK other women. Just like men who cheat try to get other men to cheat.
As if the pain taught them nothing.
I agree with most of what you said, but I’m strongly going to disagree on the idea of “knuckles sandwiches” being healthy.
Abuse screws everyone up. None of the men on either side of my parents ever hit their wives. Their wives were still good and respectful to them.
My dad never hit me. He always listened and debated with me. To this day, I have such a good impression of men because of him and the men on his side of the family. They were strong men, but they never hit their family.
My husband is a strong man and never hits me.
Going back even to my great grandparents on either side none of them ever hit their kids or their wives and were always respected just fine. (I come from a very long lived family. Most of my aunts and uncles lived past a hundred and knew their great grandchildren) I think weak men are the ones that resort to fists. Just like weak women resort to petty games and manipulation.
Granted there are plenty of people you wished got slapped occasionally like my gold digger ex-relative who fleeced one of my relatives for his business, house, and just about everything he had on him. Of course, I hate him more for being so stupid as to take it and never once stand up to her and tell her to ***k off.
I can agree to some extent with the knuckle sandwich. When I say a knuckle sandwich, there is a certain demeanor that some of the older generation of men have that when you talk with them and they disagree with you, they state it authoritatively. From my own experience, this has often felt like a metaphorical punch to the gut, where I ate it. A healthy helping of knuckle sandwich. It was after this sandwich that I would know I needed to reassess my stance or solidify my boundaries. Either way, that was my weakness exposed. It made me tougher, kinder to others and more astute in what I looked at or said before rushing to stake my stance. I’m glad you grew up around strong men and took the time to share. If only more were forced to these, “knuckle sandwiches” of truth, maybe more manipulative behavior from both sexes will decrease.
Oh I’m married with a family now.
Hahaha you have all missed the entire point. I AM LIVING THE SOLUTION. I expressed the problems I faced to let someone know that I wasn’t a spoiled little rich brat who couldn’t relate to a struggle.
I could agree with that assessment if you meant it only in a metaphorical sense and not in an actual abusive one.
My dad never held back on the truth with me. When I had a very serious medical condition as a child, it crushed both my parents. My dad felt like someone took a jackhammer to his heart when the doctor told him the news. Despite how hard it hurt them, they still told me what was going on as a child and what I faced from my own body.
Looking back, I didn’t understand how lucky I was as a child to have parents who trusted me with the truth. But I think all we suffered made us strong. My mom has been hurt by women more than anyone, but my dad supported her to stand up for herself against the BS.
Perhaps that is what angers me most about so-called feminists is how they treat working mothers like refuse. A mother is to be mocked in their eyes and treated as a traitor.
Feminists need to be mocked and treated as traitors.
Seeing abuse first hand, I am not a supporter of violence. I am a supporter of developing strengths. You sound like a strong person who had a strong masculine man to raise you. The people in your life all sound like they developed real strength of character.
I really like that among the women have come here you have listed a solid understanding of the destructive nature of feminists. There is no need for either sex to try and destroy their nature’s. Feminist don’t seem to get that as they often wish to emasculate men and put down any one who doesn’t fit their agenda. It should be punishable as it is harassment that they get free reign. On your last statement on feminists, I couldn’t agree more. They have ruined too many lives and continue to destroy their own all to show they can be better.
Feminists would rather the world burn then let their perceived “foes” get the better of them. It’s about winning. What they win, they don’t care. As long as they inflicted the other side with more suffering.
And most modern feminists are nothing but spoiled upper-class housewives are very spoiled middle to upper-class daughters raised by haughty upper to middle-class housewives.
My mother was a farm wife. We had to work from dawn to dusk. Predators bothering the chicken, my mom got the gun and took care of it. Her empowerment came from the end of a shotgun.
Her strength and independence? Her ability to hop on a tractor and till that land. Tractor breaks down? She rolls up her sleeve and fixes it with her my dad’s tool kit if he’s not available.
This site might look down on her for not “keeping up with her appearance” but she was busy. When you work from dusk til dawn, things like hair and make-up go out the window. Sorry but the animals don’t seem to care if you look “pretty”. They just want to be fed.
I think all these spoiled feminists would bawl like babies if they had to do an hour of what my mother lived.
Yes, I understand. I meant to make it financially as well…
Yes, I meant you will make it financially as well
Thank you we are now 100k a year. I bring 50k and he brings 50k. I appreciate your positive attitude sir.
It’s America for a bunch of WOMEN too. So jump off you high horse and just try to be a little empathetic. I know there’s a heart and a brain in there. Use it.
Fine but for .6789 women who would, show some respect. It’s the least you can do for another human being.
I’m not saying women have more compassion, but many do. We’re all humans here, cant we just act like it?
I show respect where it is earned and deserved, like any normal man.
Not sure where your negative thinking came from.
Before you talk of high horse, haul it back some. “Heart and Brain” are well in tact here. Kind of why this quote had so much oomph. There is no high horse or superiority in suffering. We all suffer. It is a part of humanity. I didn’t wish to be chided by her because she had it rough.
And it is America for a woman too? Is America for a woman the same as America for a man?Check the statistics on homeless in America before you comment on it. Even now I still feel the rage of it but to you I share this, I get you want to prove a point. Say something special. Be different and heard. You are coming at it ass backwards and showing nothing for yourself or cause. And please do some research before you comment. Or target me.
Better yet, go to a homeless shelter or soup kitchen. Note the great majority are men.
So, you had no education, no home, no job but getting knocked up was a great idea because a guy told you that “everything would be OK”. When are women going to take responsibility for stupid knocked up situations that they find themselves in? Just when are women going to step up to the plate and keeps their legs close or at least use birth control? Furthermore, your current man “saved” you but you continue bitch about all you have to do and no doubt you made more babies. After the first baby, did adoption or staying single ever occur to you or did you just jump right back in the game looking for a man to “save” you? If you bath in shit, you are going to smell.
Of course you are right, Ms. Murray-Herring.
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Where in the world do women have more economic freedom and individual liberty than in America?
Lol ur pathetic. No wonder this is ur life. Listen to ur whiney blame the world fuckin attitude. Pull ur head out of ur ass n maybe u would keep a fuckin job.
I would say something witty to that but here are the facts. You’re life is all downhill from here. All of it.
Been divorced yet?
Awwww…
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I know I should respect your opinion because u have da bestest comand of da fuckin language.
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Remember the time you cussed and it was cute? That was 32 years ago, and you were 4.
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Quit trying so hard. Your ego has been sheltered to the point where it is an order of magnitude out of proportion to your accomplishments.
I really didn’t mean for you to feel targeted. And you’re spot on thinking I want to say something and prove a point. A point I think is an important one. I’m not saying your research is wrong and I know there are a lot of men homeless in America but should that really take a way from women who are homeless too? My point is that I think everyone suffering should be recognized and we should do something to fix that suffering for everyone we can. It shouldn’t matter if the person suffering is a man or woman which is what I felt you were saying. I get it if you don’t agree with me, discussion is the best way to learn.
Got reddy 2 hav ur ass handed 2 u.
Nope. Still happily married so far. How’d your divorces go? What were they like?
The damage done to this poor girl by social promotion is so profound that I barely have the heart to give her the lashing she deserves.
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Just look at her writing skills. She has been effectivley retarded by her friends, family, and poor education, yet she’s been led to believe that the value of her opinion is only half a nock below that of Einstein.
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Poor child. She’ll either go through life with people abusing her or making allowances for her because they think she is low functioning.
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Whatever her age, her best day has already passed.
Jeez, Shep, trying to get me to hang mice elf (Sly and the family Stone-ism)? Gotta admit, her pearls appear to have been the result of character-minimization forces (Texting charge?). At least to some extent.
Let it never be said that Cletus is unable to communicate with the younger generation.
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My personal all time favorite is a six-hour pistol I saw advertised in the Daily Oklahoman. No kidding. Six-hour.
Sig Sauer?
Unbelievable, isn’t it?
I was on birth control. We had our other children because we chose to. I wasn’t bitching. I was explaining that I’m not laid up on the couch watching Dr Phil all day. Nobody ever said hard is bad. People assume women are always bitching but I’m just explaining that not all of us are privileged little brats. Some of us do work because we choose to lead a life of meaningful activity.
I had an education and I was living with the guy for a year when I got pregnant….. Then he kicked me out and moved another girl in when I became pregnant. I made a living for myself and met my current husband after getting on my feet. He saved me from the mentality that I had about people and the world. From a cold heart. He was patient and kind and willing to teach me.
“Go to Craigslist and get extra money?”
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My friend, she clearly has already spent a lot of time there. The truth is she probably came here directly from a dirty trick with a fat Wal-Mart management type in a sleazy little Patel/no tell/motel in NW Arkansas.
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Read some of ‘those’ ads and then reference the writing style with her specimens above and below.
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If you pay a enough attention to her syntax you might even figure out which one is her.
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Of course she may even be stupid enough to actually use the same picture. Perhaps I was wrong in my comment below. Maybe she really IS retarded.
You realize you have the same craiglist, backpage, youtube etc. options too right? A lot of people will pay a decent amount of money to watch some good old fashioned guy on guy porn, or even just to watch a man fuck himself with a dildo. Always remember to do what you need to handle your life
Aren’t you a ray of sunshine? Hello parrot how are you? I swear if there were no sex to discuss what would you be doing with your time?
Challenge: Find a way to share an opinion or point that doesn’t involve sex, curse words, and actually does something other than troll. And go. No worries I’m sure this article will be here next year too.
And on a equally sad note, you clearly have no regard for the situation in America for the homeless. On average the male body is valued far less for sexual purposes than the female. Clearly you thought that onee through right? Or were you so eager to say something that you couldn’t do some research? But you poor feminist, you have a pleasant way of opening your mouth only to ridicule and shame. Come again when you do something to better society. Although I’m sure to you more dildos, strap-ons, lesbian, gays and phds, are the epitomy of freedom and equality for all.
You’re reply didn’t actually acknowledge my point, you have the same options as a woman when it comes to making a quick buck online. I’m sorry if my harsh language made you uncomfortable.
As for my opinion…
This article makes it seem as though every waking moment of a woman’s time revolves around men. Whether it be how a man will save her, or provide for her, or protect her, or how she can please him etc.
Though the author has written an entire article about the various aspects of being a woman, he seems to have based his opinions on a very small sampling of the gender.
While I agree with him when he says that men in general are stronger and larger than the average woman (that’s a pretty obvious statement), I disagree with his idea that women walk around terrified all the time. If that were the case than every short man would feel like they needed protection from all the “big, tall scary men”. The only time I feel nervous when I’m out by myself is when I’m on a hike during cougar season, and even then, a man’s presence doesn’t do much to quell the fear of a potential attack from a vicious animal predator.
The author also seems to assume that a woman’s endgame is to use her looks to lure a rich man into marrying and providing for her. That is such an incredibly outdated thought process. No self-respecting woman would have this as her main life goal. Women are perfectly capable of providing for themselves, and have been doing so for years. While it’s true that some women do this, it is DEFINITELY not true that all of them do. Many women have life goals that don’t actually revolve around men at all (shocking for you I’m sure), such as achieving a certain position in their careers, or travelling around the world etc.
Honestly, I don’t even know why I’m bothering to put any effort into this discussion. The ideals of the browsers of this site are so extremely out of date and out of touch with the way the world is moving. I can only hope that these opinions continue to die out as time goes on.
Adapt to the changing world and move on with your life. Don’t try to drag it back where to it was decades ago.
You sure you are a woman? I’ve never met a woman who actually had deep thoughts on serious subjects that weren’t completely narcissistic (most avoid entirely though). Believe me–I’ve tried. Usually all I get is either apathy or raw emotion. Most men are fairly shallow, too, but I find a success rate of a good conversation of prob 25% with men.
The idea of guy on guy porn as a subsidy for an income assumes that there is inherent value in male sexuality. There isn’t. Even on a scientific basis, the demeaning ways male genetics are shown displays a bunch of stereotypes. Much like cattle, a man only gets a pittance for his sperm sample while a woman can gain a yearly salary just for one egg. The reason I invalidated your argument is knowing the weak value for men sexuality, it is apparent, just like sexuality, you think there is equal value in a man’s chastity as is a woman’s. Your rebuttal reeked of a childish retort assuming this was my situation and that I was incapable of solving a problem. You traced a thread and saw something with cold truths that hurt so it put you on the attack. Sorry but how the sexes are valued or solve problems aren’t equal and can never be. Does that scare you?
On the goals of a woman, you are only conning yourself. The vast majority of woman follow biological imperative. Note why even the lesbian seeks children. The problem is a direct ignorance with time, health and increasing aim for arrogance. Having a goal is fine. No man truly cares for or against a woman’s goals. In fact, it seems a woman’s goals get glorified to some supreme intelligence. If you were to become a doctor so what? If you decided to become pregnant and were the best cardiologist out, for one year minimum you would be an erratic source to go to for treatment because your own health would be your major concern and would instill a bias the species has to protect a woman. Yet you just might claim this as sexism. Your call.
Those stone ages, when women sought child-bearing, accomplished the children many women feel a need to have, without costing them any losses on time. Every year after 25, and for more women 27, adds risk to a woman dying during childbirth. Yet you sell this image of everyone being equal. If sex played no part, physically we still aren’t equal. One of my major issues with feminism is the blatant disregard for time that has been the staple for women and assumption because you disregard it a man can too. For health reasons a man will naturally seek a tight body. For protection reasons, a woman will always seek the man with the best aspect for protection she can find. High testosterone, intelligence, athleticism, ability to achieve, ability to instill other women’s attraction and so on. Intelligence is a moot point for a woman as it is only slightly linked to survival for a man. A woman’s body tells him all he needs to know on survival. And a face that needs botox at 28 already shows fallible genes.
Whether you think it outdated or not says nothing. Biological imperative ensures the factors I suggest aren’t going away from either sex because they are proven to work.
On your tone, it is less you and more the carbon copy nature of arguing by the women who came that irks me. There is a tendency to lead a conversation towards sex in some way in a high amount of rebuttals when ever a woman first addresses a man here. Both sexes have a bit of vanity but on a male site, the value is higher on intelligence over, ” get fucked, stick it up your ass, get head out of ass, etc”. It does prove a couple of this site’s “sexist” thoughts are true. Don’t share your inner thoughts with a woman comes to mind. First weakness displayed will be cannon fodder to be used to shame sooner than you can think Bob White.
And honestly, I hope a meeting ground of logic occurs because as of now, women are driving a hole in their own hearts in the west as they pursue noble attributes at the expense of biological imperative. The idea of the cat lady is alive and well. Or do you think women being saddened by the loss of years and lies believed of attaining a noble job, husband and children a dead idea? Many men are also realizing the extent of pragmatism in women making it more viable to not believe coupling is valued over supreme genes or resources.
Your ideals seek to ignore that the human race needs each other to exist. Biological imperative ensured that it did. And new isn’t better.
On a side note, the very aspect of hope invalidates your stigma against being with a “strong man” as an act of protection. Chivalry is alive to many women because men will sacrifice for sex, erroneously calling it love when it is more a fatherly love, placing value on beauty and youth. At the core it is the protection of the species’s survival. Testosterone overrides logic when it comes to protection. This is why shorter men, tend to show up more socially, to assert their station. At the core, a 6’5, muscular man, who displays practicality, looks and proficiency with his surroundings, will allow you to lower your guard and either “enjoy nature” or give you latitude to focus on your imperative “boning the guy”.
This had me in tears! I can definitely picture her irate that she wasn’t paid her dues, smiling as she notices a response on her phone from this site. Maybe the hamster in her head starts off every thought with, “These Mother F__ckers!” Thankfully she discharges some of that hate filled blood once a month.
Pretty sure. Unless biology books have been lying to me all these years.
I’ve also had that experience with most women (even as one) and you’re correct very few debate without falling on that.
Well, actually I have met many women who can have deep conversation up to a point. If they see they’re losing the debate, they will then bring up the emotion card.
So we’ll be having a lively debate and I’ll have them cornered and suddenly BAM “raw emotion”. And the “yes, but what about the children?”
Hipster men are pretty much women with male parts. They even argue like women. I’ve actually met homosexual men who can have a deep and logical debate. But I’ve never met a hipster “man” who can.
But if it’ll help convince you I’m female, I’ll use a common female argument:
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU? YOU JUST DON’T GET IT!
Man: Okay explain it.
EXPLAIN IT? EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS IT. IT’S COMMON SENSE. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?
*storms away in a huff*
Better?
🙂
“These”
“Mother”
“Fuckers”
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Believe it or not, she has already demonstrated that she cannot consistently spell any of those words correctly.
I approve your eloquent example of a common female argument.
Sorry for the long delay on response. Took the wife on a 10 day vacation to the Caribbean and slammed at work since I’ve been back. Thanks for the thoughtful reply and your in general extremely well thought out responses. I wish there were more women (and guys) like you out there.
Whoever you end up marrying is going to be one lucky guy, especially if you are fairly attractive (if you aren’t already). My wife doesn’t like to talk about anything serious which is fine. I’d rather that than someone crazy emotional and uber opinionated with no evidence supporting their opinion. I have a small crew of regular guys I debate with in person when I want a lively discussion and use places like ROK, tickerforum.org and a few other places as online alternatives and supplements.
The only two women I know that like to have real, honest debates are 1) my mother and 2) a lady at work. It’s weird debating a 60 year old who is an uber bible-thumper and the co-worker is 6 years my junior, 4 levels below me in the same department and seems interested in me so I keep my distance for obvious reasons so I tend to not be able to have intelligent debates with women often.
Best regards,
Rob
That’s very kind of you to say. Actually I am already married. I asked my husband once what attracted him to me the most. He said it happened after a month of us dating. He brought up roman history and I jumped into the debate. He had never met a woman willing to debate history or politics. He said most of the women (he’s Asian) in his country won’t discuss anything “difficult” like that. So he fell in love with that.
It’s funny to me how many woman want their man to say they’re beautiful but to me the best compliment was being told “you’re a good debater and I fell in love with that”.
Also cooking helps. I honestly don’t know why women struggle to get men to return to him. Haven’t they ever heard, “the way to a man’s heart is through his stomach”. Honestly you cook good food for him and he is yours.
Cletus, all of your comments are grayed and marked as guest in my feed. Did you give up after the stupid new disqus format?
Not that you don’t have problems, but it sounds as if they are much more closely correlated with poor mate selection than your sex.
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Go back and re-read your post. Ask yourself why your first reaction was to blame your problems on being a woman.
Because it appears that you either get a man that works all the time which is the one I have or you get one that doesn’t give a damn about working or you get beaters and cheaters. My husband doesn’t beat or cheat he just works all the time and I am left with all the responsibility around here which is fine I just can’t drive so that makes it much more difficult.
Your outlook is so sad. I must tell you that there are good men and happy couples in the world.
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I hope you find peace.
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I suspect you have a problem with depression which is not tied to your sex.
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Respectfully, as someone who has fought two epic battles with depression, I suggest that find a counselor with whom you can work.
I’ve been in therapy for about 10 years. Its ongoing but pretty sure its hereditary. Im just going by what I have seen from men. They expect to take from women and women to not fuss about it. Like we should be happy they even graced us with their presence….. These guys on here are convinced that we are stupid but we see straight through them. Most women have given up acting decent because men don’t want decent. And of course women want men to love them… But they don’t. They love the body until it has put forth all it can and been used up and then they move on to the newer model. They just take and take and take and take until there is nothing left. And then condemn because we are no longer beautiful and glorious.
Ask yourself, how is it you came to this point without seeing any good men.
Just being around a co dependent mother who had bad men in the house. I do know some good men. My godfather My grandfathers and my husband. But that’s about as far as it goes.
It’s largely a generational thing. And men aren’t the only ones who have gone down hill by far. The women of today are spoiled, selfish, manipulative, gold digging, lying emotionally unsound and accept no accountability for their actions. Some of it is due to poor parenting and some of it is due to abuse or trauma. The same can be said for men.
Typical
Cue biting the banana.
What’s sad about the whole thing was that a functional patriarchy as it existed once recognized these disadvantages and stark differences in brain wiring and went out of its way to make life easier for women and let them prioritize the things they are good at.
Possible we labor now under too much “advancement” – things were made too easy for women and they got around to sitting around clucking like hens and therein sowed the seed for discord.
Don’t worry ladies, things are going to get much much harder and those of you who can’t have kids (no value for your born role) and have low SMV (not fuckable and even less value for those who don’t want kids) can join my team. When everything collapses I plan to use teams of surplus women to pull my truck after the fuel is gone. Nobody else will feed you because they won’t find a use for you. After a while you will lose weight and get in shape and have some SMV going and then I can sell you to some fellows looking for sex. That’s why I won’t whip you so hard and leave marks and make sure you are fed only organic.
Corn fed! lol
A True Patriarchal Oppressor would feed them that high fructose crap.
Yet you, kindheartedly, instead offer full organics. It actually (snif, sniffle) got me a little emotional.
Cheers.
Seriously, I won’t abuse my teams. All they have to do it pull the truck. I’m trying to help them by giving them something to do that’s useful. When their cubicle jobs are gone, and after they are living in their Subarus and have already eaten their yellow Labradors, what then?
They’ll just starve.
I know that might be a positive outcome, but those willing to pull my truck into battle (if necessary) will build character AND lose that “office ass” too. Being fed well might even restore their fertility. They will lose weight AND have a use again. And if they pull my truck, certainly the work required of being a wife and mother would be easier. No?
Of course those that have wasted all of their good years, the over 30… nobody will want them. I’ll just work them until they are 45 then trade them to cannibal tribes (no doubt the wasteland will have them) for scrap electronics.
Your apocalyptic scenario is adorable 🙂 you do realize that female biology, especially post menopause, is perfectly designed for endurance? It is the children, men and pregnant females that die in famine. The old ladies live on on merely water and prayer to rebuild.
Some of the psychopathic male fantasies that are expressed here reveal a degree of envy & hatred of the Superior Gender so deep and so extreme that words can scarcely describe it.
As a woman, you have to spend inordinate amounts of time and worry over your appearance, because you know your value is intimately tied to it. Young, beautiful women are indeed highly privileged. This all ends when they age and lose their beauty. As a man, you have the opportunity to improve yourself to increase your value over time. Women don’t. After sexual peak, a woman’s value only decreases over time. Just for that reason alone, I would not want to be a woman.
Women do more and offer more than just sex! Dorothea Six was a great woman who reformed the welfare of the mentally ill in hospitals and prisons across America.
Lmfao this is hilarious. Ppl believe this shit. U “people” r the degenenerates of society. Good job, lol
I see we have a scholar in our midst. I will attempt to communicate with it in its native tongue:
Wot m8? Lmao. Ttyl!
I have no idea what wot m8 means but clearly u do so before u go trying to sound clever u should understand all ur doing with these pathetic attempts at commenting, is proving how right i truly am.. Bexause i use txt slang means nothing…. lol im talking to a bunch of degenerates on a lame web page lol i would never waste my time spwlling out words n using correct grammar – u door knobs wouldnt have a clue what any of it means anyways. The fact u point it (my style of writing) out means u aint got shit to say. Keep trying loser.
M(8)=M(eight)=M(ate)= Mate
Wot=What
Obviously u can read it so the minimal short cuts i use are not impedeing the message…. as i said before u r creating completely irrelevant arguements
It isn’t obvious. I just happen to know some linguistic applications. No argument. Suggestions. I was talking about mate. Short hand I avoid because there are other words that go with ‘a’ or ‘l’ that I wish to use.
Hehehe, aww. Rejects dreaming of glory.
>>Being a man is more difficult because persevering through the challenges that present themselves is ultimately more rewarding. <<
Does not make much sense. Being a man is more difficult because ..
Does not compute.
Also, I don’t believe the assertion that ‘true greatness comes from men’ is completely true.
This site is very heavy on generalisations, I’ve noticed. While it’s likely that there are more great men than women due to innate sex differences in drive and g variance.. it’s pretty obvious that there are and have been great women.
” Sure, I’ve always wanted to be a lesbian, if only for a few years”
I take it the author has not seen real lesbians.
” Sure, I’ve always wanted to be a lesbian, if only for a few years”
I take it the author has not seen real lesbians.
Let’s be real for a minute, if a 9/10 hottie decided to become a lesbian for a few years she’d be pretty damn successful with a variety of women. I don’t know many girls who aren’t at least curious about lesbian sex.
And wasting her years on those who are even more selfish and self serving than her little Hampster could imagine.
Most straight women are not curious about “lesbian sex”. They may not be as idiotic as you American males, trying to hide your bisexual tendencies behind a hysterical homophobic facade, they will actually respect it and such, or even see it as greatness as it is a scenario where no men are involved (American men could care less about women’s pleasure and women orgasm with you guys less than 30% of the times, so a scenario with no men and only women would be, and IS, an ideal one where women will finally feel sexual pleasure and satisfaction; that is why so many women”envy” lesbians and actually confess that if sexual orienation were a choice they would totally be lesbians), but most could care less about it… otherwise, most would have experienced it already.
I’m not American and have of your post is practically unintelligible.
I don’t have any statistical data but from what I can see a surprising number of straight women have dabbled in lesbian sex. If you widen that definition to include making out with eachother, the percentage sky rockets to an overwhelming majority.
Most straight women are not curious about lesbian sex, but they are VERY curious about male/ male sex. Look at how the male/ male story section has grown in the romance industry. The dominance of it among female readers (the main buyers). Heck fanfiction can show how fascinated women are by the idea of guys getting it on.
If women envied anything, I find they seem to “envy” that. The sheer growth of that in romance shows it. The number don’t lie.
And yet I wouldn’t call most women into that genre “bisexual” at all. They are not hiding their “bisexual” tendencies at all by being interested in it. I think you need to be careful of your statements.
And if you call their interest “respectful” then you haven’t seen all the female writers and readers who get off on stories about men raping men.
Hardly respect.
Every chick is the CIA of retard-land.
Every chick is the CIA of retard-land.
Agreed. We need to tread lightly on how/what you complain about women. Many times it can be interpreted as butthurt envy. I’m not envious of women who are employed because they blew some manager. My beef is with the wimps who allow it, and scoff at meritocracy. I will bust my ass mentally and physically so I don’t have to go down on some fat old cat lady who runs HR.
Agreed. We need to tread lightly on how/what you complain about women. Many times it can be interpreted as butthurt envy. I’m not envious of women who are employed because they blew some manager. My beef is with the wimps who allow it, and scoff at meritocracy. I will bust my ass mentally and physically so I don’t have to go down on some fat old cat lady who runs HR.
Sometimes on rok there seems to be a vibe of men vs. women. To say that men are “better” than women is a completely subjective statement.
It would be more accurate to say that men are by nature dominant and decisive, and women are by nature submissive and manipulative. This is simply the result of evolution.
Certainly feminism is bad, because it encourages both men and women to contradict their natural tendencies, and as a result has negative consequences for people and for society. But a submissive woman who knows her place and acts properly, is not a woman I would criticize as inferior.
Alex de Tocqueville:
“Thus the Americans do not think that man and woman have either the duty or the right to perform the same offices, but they show an equal regard for both their respective parts; and though their lot is different, they consider both of them as beings of equal value.”
Sometimes on rok there seems to be a vibe of men vs. women. To say that men are “better” than women is a completely subjective statement.
It would be more accurate to say that men are by nature dominant and decisive, and women are by nature submissive and manipulative. This is simply the result of evolution.
Certainly feminism is bad, because it encourages both men and women to contradict their natural tendencies, and as a result has negative consequences for people and for society. But a submissive woman who knows her place and acts properly, is not a woman I would criticize as inferior.
Alex de Tocqueville:
“Thus the Americans do not think that man and woman have either the duty or the right to perform the same offices, but they show an equal regard for both their respective parts; and though their lot is different, they consider both of them as beings of equal value.”
Women don’t like to admit that though because they feel that they are inferior to men when in fact if my fellow feminine humanoids would perform their roles well and with class they would be as equal and respected rather than trying to outperform the captain at his captaining. Nothing wrong with being the first mate as long as you accept and deliver.
Women don’t like to admit that though because they feel that they are inferior to men when in fact if my fellow feminine humanoids would perform their roles well and with class they would be as equal and respected rather than trying to outperform the captain at his captaining. Nothing wrong with being the first mate as long as you accept and deliver.
It was supposed to be yin and yang. “They” fucked it all up.
Oh well. I have shovels stockpiled.
You know that evolution isn’t static…right?
You know that evolution has been supplanted by social engineering… Right?
Absolutely right. The distinction between biological evolution and cultural evolution is an important one. The conflict between the two is at root of our social and health problems.
A lot of guys here are hurt and frustrated. As such, they tend to over-react when confronted with the errors of women. Some of these guys are the mirror image of the “I don’t need no man” feminist and and like them, are suffering a form of denial.
The point I have made previously is that young men need to learn how to handle women rather than go running screaming from them.
Only few males are dominant, most males are just active – but still submissive to the alpha male. Only few females are dominant, some are active when their offspring need it but are passive overall. Males choose faster, females contemplate for longer. Males are more persuasive, females more manipulative.
Oooh no no no men do not want to be women. Too much hassle, pain, expectation, emotions, responsibility.
Oooh no no no men do not want to be women. Too much hassle, pain, expectation, emotions, responsibility.
and bloody periods
That too. Worst of all.
and bloody periods
all in which she could just avoid, right? if he actually was a woman, he could point to his vagina and say, “I don’t need to do what you tell me to do.”
responsibility, ha! women’s role in taking responsibility has been an option since they were liberated. a man doesn’t get a choice to take a responsibility. he gets it dropped into his arms and told, “good luck buddy!”
That’s not true. We must take care of ourselves as soon as we are adults . . . in what country do women get taken care of for their entire lives? Like as soon as we walk out the door we have any more choices than yall do. We have the same responsibility at adulthood.
doesn’t change that woman’s responsibility is primarily an option for them. This country gives it to women quite well if they danced through a couple of hoops.
get married to an idiot with a decent amount of money, shit out a kid or two, divorce him and she can pretty much live on alimony for the rest of her life. Or at least until the man dies or commits suicide or something.
don’t like it? Change the fucking cycle. want evidence? Look it up like a real fucking researcher.
In a married ducking woman you sniveling little bitch cake and I treat my husband like a damn king. I would rather be poor living in a box with him than having pockets of cash while he is gone! You are all angry at all women the acts of some…. But get upset when women do the same to men. I don’t assume that all men are brutes just because my stepdad fingered me and killed my mother when I was 9!!! Pompous ass holes.
you should have killed your ass while he was at it. It’s quite simple, I don’t give a fuck if you’ve been sexually molested. That’s the same calling card is every other feminist that is ever existed. We cant substantiate it, and you won’t give us evidence it actually happened, so why the fuck should I care what you say? Because you want me to? Cause I have the bow down to your vagina and worry about your emotions? I bet you anything, anything that you say about your husband is complete bullshit. Your husband is depressed just like you claim you are oppressed. He’s a stupid dumb fuck that you married because you know you can get money out of him. girl gets fingered by another old man, you stupid worthless sack of human flesh.
I never said that. And I can prove it actually not that you would even take the time to look at the article. I don’t require sympathy or pity. I am strong and strong willed. I make money as well. We married when we were 17 and now are 25. I don’t feel oppressed by him at all. He is pretty straight forward about when things aren’t to his liking he would tell me if he was depressed because he knows I would fix it. You evoke much sadness about this opinion. But to each his own. Btw I make 25k more a year than he does.
And we neither one was making money when we got married so try again. Ur just angry because women are more than just a couple of body parts. I understand the way modern women act is detestable and that they are manipulative but not all of them.
Also im not a feminist. I acknowledge willingly the pitfalls of women especially this day and age.
my suggestion? Leave this website and don’t you ever come back again. If you think feminists are fucking psychotic, you better fucking fight for the rights of men, but let them take the charge. If you really believe in this shit, act on it. Don’t come on this website where we already know what the fucks going on and start telling us what to do. we dont give a fuck about your personal place, and we don’t give a fuck about you. You want to make yourself useful, let your fucking man be a man.
now go somewhere else, you incredulous asshole.
I have been here looking so I could gain insight. But as a human being its difficult to see the things people say about your genders and not reply… I mean come on. I fully support means rights to be men but also a woman’s right to be respected. If you are truly a man you don’t have to stomp on a woman to make yourself more dominant. I don’t stand in the way of men being the leaders of a nation ship or family but women would be more inclined to be useful if they were not treated so crudely. We are equal but not the same.
Then slap a feminist in the mouth. She may look like a woman, she may act like she’s acting in all womens favor, but she’s only fighting for herself. This is not the place to find the info you want.
Women have to grow up get a job, pay bills, clean house, cook same shit as all the dudes. Nobody coddled me and made it easy for me . . . you guys are immasculated, insecure, delusional men that don’t “need” women yet you spend time energy and money pursuing them…. If we are so low down and unneeded, insufficient and privileged then why are so many men looking for that special woman?
because that special woman wouldn’t be a stupid cretin like you. You only want to pay bills for so long. You only want to work for so long. I’ve known plenty of women around me that it had kids and are single mothers and really don’t like taking care of the kids. read them, and you, they could still get out of it if they marry a man. If we were so insecure, what the fuck are you doing here right now? you think you’re going to show us the light? we’re just a bunch of men you can’t control it and it drives you fucking crazy.
No i have no wish to control men. I can’t stand them for the most part. Except the one I married because I love him. Men have done nothing my entire life except run off and leave or abuse. What drives me crazy is that you think we are all the way the women you have obviously been hurt by have acted. It drives me crazy that you’re pricks and ass holes to us because you are dominant in gender but don’t mind conning us or playing our emotions to get a piece of ass and then once again taking off. If we don’t give it we are no good. If we do we are Sluts if we are fat we are ugly if we are thin we are stupid and shallow for working on ourselves. It drives me crazy that we can’t win and all we will ever be is dirt in the eyes of men good for only one thing and therefore should not even be conscious beings. It drives me crazy that we are cursed and yall rub it in like big bullies.
Its the fact that you all are kicking a horse while its down and parading around with the carcass like its hilarious. Most women who are asses to men have been let down by them or hurt severely by them.
in what you just wrote proved exactly why we don’t like people like you. We’re only good for one thing? So basically your loving husband is only good for one thing, whatever that may be? Yeah, you think so highly of men.
give applause, everyone! She’s been a great performer tonight!
“Men have done nothing my entire life except run off and leave…”
And what is it about you that makes men run for cover?
well I was a child when my dad left so I guess it had something to do with responsibility. When I was pregnant with my first son his dad left because he changed his mind and didn’t want a baby anymore. All the men my mother dated left because she was a bitch but only after they had taken the time to let me get attached to them.
That makes zero sense.
I notice women like the play dumb when it suits them.
I’m fairly intelligent. And I notice how your rebuttal made very little sense…..
you go on and prattle on about your college degree then. I’m sure I’ll take it in an absolute lack of interest.
That’s just fantastic, Dick. That is absolutely just fantastic. You are truly a gem among men.
glad you agree. Now piss off.
Very good article and I agree with most of it especially the part about becoming her identity. I look at women as mirrors to their men, You`ll get from her the mirror image of yourself and the surer You are of Your convictions the better the image will be. And she will test You all the time. Why? Because She is like a child looking for a way around something You`re trying to make her do and If she finds a weakness It`s like a permission for her to shit on You. So dont blame woman if she doesnt respect you cause she would if You were to be respected. Maybe the reason why women in US are so “strong” and liberated is because men are weak and afraid.
This kind of explains why women need men. We need each other because we complete each other – Its a physical – emotional trade off. Women need men because they are emotional wrecks full of character flaws which can only be put in order by men of strong character (thats why they are so driven to strong men – its makes their emotional life bearable as they feed off men`s confidence almost feeling confident themselves). And We get the physical side from them, get to enjoy their beauty – shame it doesnt last longer 😉
Very good article and I agree with most of it especially the part about becoming her identity. I look at women as mirrors to their men, You`ll get from her the mirror image of yourself and the surer You are of Your convictions the better the image will be. And she will test You all the time. Why? Because She is like a child looking for a way around something You`re trying to make her do and If she finds a weakness It`s like a permission for her to shit on You. So dont blame woman if she doesnt respect you cause she would if You were to be respected. Maybe the reason why women in US are so “strong” and liberated is because men are weak and afraid.
This kind of explains why women need men. We need each other because we complete each other – Its a physical – emotional trade off. Women need men because they are emotional wrecks full of character flaws which can only be put in order by men of strong character (thats why they are so driven to strong men – its makes their emotional life bearable as they feed off men`s confidence almost feeling confident themselves). And We get the physical side from them, get to enjoy their beauty – shame it doesnt last longer 😉
I think the thing about becoming her identity is that she will define herself by you. So you’re right about the mirror.
“Law school attracts the absolute worst in humanity.”
The people you don’t like in HS and college? They all go to law school. Something like 2/3 of lawyers hate their jobs and would do something different if they could have a “do-over”, but the reality is those folks would be miserable at whatever they were doing instead.
I went to law school years ago, but I would not recommend it now, unless (a) someone else is paying, and (b) you have connections for a job after. This has been true since the early 90s, but is doubly or triply so, now. A bunch of guys I know have left the profession, and who the fuck needs to run up 6 figures of debt to go be a guidance counselor or a VP of HR? /shudder.
I moved in-house quickly to avoid all the defective personalities with untreated OCD who wanted to metaphorically “dick-measure” to make up for their real-life micro-peens.
For a kid these days, unless he’s super intelligent, I’d tell him to skip college and learn a trade.
À bientôt,
Mistral
100 percent agree … Tradies are looked down upon as losers by society, but the exceptional ones now make more money than everyone, save doctors.
College is a scam (engineer saying this, not disgruntled art history major). Do the math … If everyone is going, what are your odds of getting a coveted high paying job based on merit? Slim to none.
80 to 100 percent of your classes are 80 to 100 percent useless!
True to a point, but your odds of getting a high paying coveted job without the paper to back up the application is close to 0%.
Not unless your piece of paper gave you a skill.
Yeah, in looking at schools for after high school, I wanted to learn automotive repair at this one school in Sugarland, TX, if memory serves. Sounded legit. Cars break down all the time. There’s still a chance. Or computer science since all cars are almost computers nowadays.
I’d have a look at some of the construction trades. Plumbing is a highly-paid trade (apparently surpassed by elevator repair), but in any case, I would do everything I could to avoid running up a lot of debt. That’s how they keep you enslaved. Only a man without debts (or debts he can’t wipe out with the stroke of a pen) is truly free.
À bientôt,
Mistral
Every guy on this website is completely delusional. I don’t know where you guys live or what kind of women you are surrounded by but I am in real estate and the women are just as successful as the men are. I know plenty of women that are making millions not because they are sucking someone off. I don’t know what world you are living in but it must be sad to have that much hate and anger towards women. If you hate them so much date men for gods sake. Thank God I’ve never came across one of you guys! Bunch of freaks.
Seems like you all have mommy issues. I haven’t seen anyone say one positive thing about a women. It’s very amusing to see all these small minded uneducated little men chirping about their hate for women. Hahahaha
you don’t have to like it. please leave
And you don’t have to comment on my post.
Get lost bitch 🙂
“Women and homosexuals are discouraged from commenting here.”
Go back to your minimum wage job.
“Women and homosexuals are discouraged from commenting here.”
“Women and homosexuals are discouraged from commenting here.”
“Women and homosexuals are discouraged from commenting here.”
The TRUTH has spoken 😉
Then you all the men should not comment on here because you all seem like you love to take in the ass.
“Women and homosexuals are discouraged from commenting here.”
Like I said stop commenting.
“Women and homosexuals are discouraged from commenting here.”
Discouraged, not “not allowed”. Now stop playing the idio… ok, I know you can’t.
Woman tend to excel in fields that are either irrelevant or they are not qualified in – like real estate for example, if they are attractive. The fleeting hope that a man may have a chance to sleep with a woman will smear his judgement, even to the point of buying a house from her. Unfortunately woman don’t earn much, most of what comes to them is given.
That’s not true actually because most of them are not attractive. Stop trying to put every women in one category. You sound ignorant. Makes me laugh though keep amusing me clown.
“Women and homosexuals are discouraged from commenting here.”
I’m here for your entertainment.
Thanks 🙂
Show me your tits
How’d you come up with that one?
Just show us your tits skank.
😉 don’t contradict yourselves you guys hate women that do those things.
We love sluts, we just don’t fall in love with sluts. Now do what you sluts do best and upload those tits to imgur.
Awww sorry to disappoint you virgin but I’m not a slut 🙂
Just because you say it so, doesn’t make it true.
Psst, she only didn’t ask you to show her your cock in return because that probably looks like an ugly, small and hairy little rotten banana… American males, bad grooming routine, ugly bodies… you know. 😉
I put it up your ass in college. I know you remember even if you pretend otherwise
You’re so clever you must be so proud!
Any woman unlucky enough to ever end up having “sex” (more like torture sessions) with you would rather pretend to forget about it all. One could even commit suicide by shooting herself in the head at the simple remembrance of it. 🙁
Stop stalking creepy lady.
” Law school attracts the absolute worst in humanity. Weak, cowardly men and cutthroat, entitled women.”
True.
Never go to law school. 99% of graduates will NEVER land a job in the legal market.
The truth behind the legal market is that there are not enough training contracts available to accomodate the large number of graduates coming out of law schools. The field is oversaturated.
On top of that, the 1% who get jobs, will get jobs through family connections, sex appeal (good looking females) and brand school names like Cambridge or Harvard. Heck, one top law firm in London actually stated that the firm will only hire blonde females or Oxford/Cambridge graduates- NO JOKE.
The truth is lawyers are parasites in society. They live on divorces, misery and the misfortunes of people in society. Unlike doctors, police officers, firemen and engineers (who all serve a productive function in society) lawyers, just like bankers and politicians, are the destructive members in society.
Everybody needs a lawyer when in trouble
Better call Saul.
Jews planned it that way. All you should need is a gun.
The number isn’t 99 percent … My best friend is at UVA right now and he made 30k interning during the summer. Merely as an intern he was making 2.5 k a week.
I would say 15 to 20 percent of the bright or well connected get big law or cushy family or government jobs. For the rest it’s a struggle.
Really good article. However, it leaves me wondering:
“You cannot tell the hawk not to devour the mouse any more than you can verbally teach a woman right from wrong”
Some elaboration on this point would be much appreciated. Can you not teach them through words alone, but through continued reinforcement, and some other nonverbal element, eventually show them? Or are you saying women simply can’t learn morality? You state that positive and negative reinforcement is needed, but some examples are really called for here.
Great question. I too cannot understand how the author tried to compare a hawk devouring a mouse to a woman not being moral…since when is eating the mouse right or wrong?
These are not analogous.
I`d say Its very wrong from mice`s point of view. But Its not really about right or wrong Its about their nature. You cant teach anybody anything which is against their nature thus trying to explain to women verbally anything wont get you anywhere. It`s not because woman is inferior, She`s just different – She understands emotions not logic and You`ll get better results If she experiences something (kind of emotional punishment/reward system)
I see, that must totally be why women are much more cautious than men, because they never understand logic and can only learn after experiencin… OH WAIT!!!!!!
There is so much truth in this. I think the biggest thing that separates men who are good with women from men who are bad is that the men who are good with women do not hold them to the same standard as they would a man. I’m just coming off a relationship that went to hell and frankly I’m feeling guilty for trying to hold her to standards of objectivity, fairness and honesty. Even if you can fight through all the rationalizations at the end of the day you just leave them feeling sad.
Don’t take them too seriously. Don’t rely on them. Just let them be what they are and say thank God everyday, even with the onerous burdens you have to face, that you are a man.
You sound defeated man. Don’t lower your standards, please.
“To have ignorance of your own insufficiency is the worst prison. A woman is like a drunk man who claims that he is merely buzzing. He thinks he is orderly, but all those around him laugh at his antics, and he grows angry. They take away his car keys and cell phone, and he thinks they are oppressing him. This is the natural state of the woman, and without the tempering force of patriarchy, there is nothing to prevent her from destroying her life and the lives of those around her. Why would you envy that?”
Blair, this is amazing. Thank you so much for articulating so many of my thoughts.
“The reality is that women have no value to men beyond sex, children, and housework.”, you killed it w/ this line
I’d say the same for women.
Men have no value to women beyond sex and children.
They can do their own housework.
We have created a society which we do not need each other.
Men are imperative to the survival of our species – you can’t replace logic, reason and virtue.
You think every walking man has the traits of Plato and Aristotle?
Hah.
No. But virtually no woman on earth does either.
And you have met all women I presume?
I don’t have too. I just have to observe them and recognize patterns in their thinking, or lack thereof.
Yeah the women I know are highly intelligent. Well they all got into medical school for a reason.
They have great analytical and reasoning skills and factor in emotion. They are out-performing us men in bedside manners. And bedside manners is what the public wants. Why? Because they were more likely to follow treatment instructions from someone who is empathetic/understanding vs. shoving it down your throat.
Where are your sources? I’d like to see an airhead.
No I don’t, but they are innate in every man.
Pediatrics is not surgery
” the women I know are highly intelligent. Well they all got into medical school for a reason.”
Any idiot can become a nurse. All you have to do is follow protocol. And women are only good at doing what they are told. Memorizing facts and following directions is not intelligence.
“They have great analytical and reasoning skills and factor in emotion.”
Proof?
“Because they were more likely to follow treatment instructions from
someone who is empathetic/understanding vs. shoving it down your throat.”
If women were so “empathetic” then why are they murdering their own children via abortion in record numbers? You manginas are fucking stupid.
You think abortion is murder?
So what? We need all kinds of doctors.
There is a reason why women dont become surgeons
Child sacrifice, if you prefer.
Women are better doctors because they have bedside manner….
Suck a dick faggot.
Right. And do you think unintentionally self-inducing a miscarriage is murder (i.e. an accident)?
And why should that matter?
Your kid gets sick – the surgeon won’t help you.
Unfortunately to be a good doctor these days doesn’t mean prancing about in a white coat.
There are many facets to being a good doctor, and yes bedside manners are one of them.
Actually did you know having good bedside manners can alone prevent your patient from suing you if you screw up?
Millions of people do. Why are to pretending to be surprised?
Because I know what murder is.
If abortion is murder, then accidental self-induced miscarriages must be murder too.
Abortion is intentionally ending a pregnancy and an accidental self-induced miscarriage is unintentionally ending a pregnancy.
You have no fucking clue what murder is. Murder implies intending to kill someone you fucktard. Miscarriage obviously don’t fall into that category. Abortion is killing what would have been a human being. Not only that but that killing premeditated as well. You are either a troll or the biggest idiot ever.
Murder requires intent. By definition ‘unintentional’ implies lack of intent…so no.
No.
It was unintentional, as you wrote.
All hail Starbucks.
Men and women only ever ‘needed’ each other for reproduction. All the structure we had in traditional civilizations – marriage, family bonds, etc. – were socially constructed because they produced strength and stability for society. But now that we’ve decided we don’t care about that shit, we’re reverting back to our more primal states. Our brains have started getting smaller and kids IQ scores are dropping for the first time in recorded history. De-evolution in action.
Do you know what evolution is?
This is funny, do you think evolution is always in a positive direction?
Are you incapable of grasping words that have intended meanings beyond the semantics of their root words? De-evolution is a word that is intended to evoke the idea of “going in a backwards direction” – towards decreasing intelligence, strength, etc.. It’s true that evolution in the technical sense has no “direction”.
Good evolution has no direction.
Returning to a primitive state would have been a better choice of words 😉
But research doesn’t support that claim. Hmmm.
Cause women are such great solders etc. shuddup faggot.
Female lawyers, female newsanchors, female hiring managers etc… all of them make my stomach turn and throw up- seeing them behave like men and acting like the bossy bitches they are. To make it worse, they now consider the word “bitch” as a compliment. How I dreamt of one day finding a real women with feminine qualities- now that is dead. I guess dreams are supposed to be dreams.
We are living in a fucking nightmare. Women outnumbering men in the labor market thanks to HR discrimination and the other horrific feminist agendas being shoved in our faces. Christ, I won’t forget the horrifying women managers I had to report to-treating all the other men in the office like dog shit.
Why are women in the workplace? Isn’t working in the kitchen and looking after children not enough work? There is nothing wrong with this. I prefer these kind of women than the aggressive career women we see in the workplace, constantly gossiping and coming up with ways to sue men for sexual harrassment.
Don’t worry, there are so many companies downsizing, laying off, or leaving the country there wont be many well paying jobs left anyways. Its not like the glory days of the 80s and 90s where a business degree could really hook you up on wallstreet. These women are walking into a shithole situation.
I think companies have realized theyre reaching a saturation point with female employees. As much as they try and be politically correct, they are competing in a brutal global economy and they know women don’t add a whole lot.
Good. While I feel bad for the good men losing their jobs, I have no sympathy for these bitches. They deserve everything that is coming to them. I don’t give a flying fuck for these women. They always had their priorities wrong, thinking they can do whatever shit they wanted to men, to their kids, and to society as a whole.
Karma is a bitch. What goes around, comes around. When Judgement Day arrives, justice will be fully served.
Mommy issues FOR SUUUURE!
“Women and homosexuals are discouraged from commenting here.”
I finally read the link. All this time I’ve been posting and I’ve been following the tenements unknowingly. Guess if you’re masculine some things go without saying.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Men pretty much have to hold women’s hands through life. In other words, women are so much inferior to men that need to be told what to do by men otherwise they will destroy themselves with their own animal emotions, childish delusions and fantasies about how the world works. They pretty much live “in the moment” which means that they have no forethought whatsoever. Pure animal instinct, no thought, all emotion. I would hate that short of existence.
The only thing women should be doing is having children and being a mother. That is pretty much what their biology is geared for.
They already have destroyed themselves. Tattted up, behaving like aggressive dogs, focused more on careers than maintaining the nuclear family and so on.
I agree with everything you said. Men will never be recognised for the greatness we want to instill in our children and future generations thanks to the obnoxious cunts that are wrecking society for other men.
The same things that men started doing way before and still do at higher rates?
Continuing your education definitely requires prospective thinking. You sound jaded sir.
“Women and homosexuals are discouraged from commenting here.”
*Troll Detected
You’re a joke
*Troll Detected.
What’s a troll? 🙂
*Proven Troll
My point is proven. No thought, all emotion.
Ok stop being like a feminist. Why wouldn’t you want us to work? Why wouldn’t you want your wife to work it’s double the income that’s great! You’re the reason why feminists exist. I guarantee you I make more money then you how do you feel about that? I’m good at what I do and when it is time for me to have a child I’m going to be good at that too. Why would I limit myself to just being a housewife and a mother? I love making money and now you made me want to crush it even harder at work.
“Why wouldn’t you want your wife to work”
Because her children need her you moron. Also she has no reason to work if i already pay of everything.
“I guarantee you I make more money then you how do you feel about that?”
LOL. No you don’t. The very fact that you spend all of yesterday trolling this site means that you probably don’t have a job at all.
” Why would I limit myself to just being a housewife and a mother?”
It’s called a division of labor idiot. If both parents are working then the kids are neglected. Someone has to care for the kids and the fathers has to work therefore the mother stays at home. There is no reason to do both work and mother. Modern technology is the ONLY REASON women can even make a living working. In a state of nature or even a few hundred years ago it wouldn’t be possible for women to do so. Women weren’t meant to be labors. We know this by their both physical and mental frailty. Women are biologically wired for child rearing. Her child bearing hips and milk caring breast is the obvious proof of this. You can’t escape your biology. You can ignore it, but at your own peril.
Some advice, go find a husband and have kids and stop trolling on the internet. You aren’t getting anywhere with us. Stop trying.
I chose to be a real estate agent for a reason one because you can make a lot of money and two because when its time to have kids I can work from home I am my own boss. I have a fiance who is proud to say that his girl is a hustler who makes a lot of money. My mom has a daycare and 8 out of 10 mothers make more than their husbands. It is sad to see the mothers that come to my mothers daycare dropping off their 3 month olds because their husbands don’t make enough money for them to stay home with their babies. That is the way life is now, the cost of living is outrageous that is why there are so many mothers working.
“My point is proven because I said so”
Exactly what you tried to do with your comment, little American shit (I know, pleonasm again).
Men are only physically stronger. Women are psychologically stronger. That is the reason they commit suicide less, get mental diseases less, control their own urges much more and end up being rapists, murderers and overall criminals at much lower rates, etc.
Women have always hunted beside men since the dawn of times, and most handcraft is still done by women in poorer places (and they do ear money with this), a job women are designed to do.
Now for the many jobs of our modern world… that is not biologically designed for anyone, to beging with. but both men and women can accomplish them well enough.
Well said.
“Women are psychologically stronger.”
No they aren’t. They are hypersensitive crybabies. Just look at their outrage at Matt Forney’s latest article. They can’t handle the slightest amount of criticism. Tattoos aren’t even a big deal yet are acting like it is the end of the world just because one guy on the internet insulted a certain group of them. Just look at feminism. The entire point of feminism is so that women can cry about how unfair and unjust the world is. As if the world is supposed to cater to them because they are too weak to cope with the hardships of life. The inability do deal with the hardships of reality is very definition of mental weakness. I saw a grown women crying the other day because she lost a her teddy bear. LMAO!!!!!
” That is the reason they commit suicide less, get mental diseases less,
control their own urges much more and end up being rapists, murderers
and overall criminals at much lower rates, etc.”
There is no proof for what you are claim. It is also a non-sequatior fallacy. You don’t even define what “psychological strength” is. Let alone actually prove it.
“Women have always hunted beside men since the dawn of times”
No they haven’t. They are physically incapable of hunting. You are just pulling shit out of your ass at this point.
“Now for the many jobs of our modern world… that is not biologically designed for anyone, to begin with. ”
But they are easier than manual labor jobs, which is the ONLY REASON women can do them. So that just proves my point that women need a leg up from men just so that they can earn a living.
Starwman. Alexanders comment was proof of my point. Not because i said so. You just added ” because I said so” as a starwman. Proven lair.
Context idiot. Keep it in context.
“In other words, women are so much inferior to men that need to be told what to do by men otherwise they will destroy themselves with their own animal emotions, childish delusions and fantasies about how the world works.”
That is why most criminals are males, most people who act “in the moment” and end up raping or killing someone are males and most people who commit suicide are males, indeed! Because women are the ones who destroy themselves and… OH WAIT! 😉
“Pure animal instinct, no thought, all emotion. I would hate that short of existence.”
Prove it with researches. And also teach us how men, who are such superior big shits, ever allowed women, who can’t even think and are only instinct, uh hu, to actually scape (women felt like escaping to begin with; if women were meant to only reproduce, why would they ever feel like doing something else? how would they ever have the capacity to do such?) the male oppression and now show more intelligence than many or most men in many ways, rule Countries, win nobel prizes, etc.
Don’t you American idiots see how stupid you guys sound by saying animals of the same species are THAT different from one another, only because of their sex? To the point of actually mentioning rationality and thought? You guys are just pathetic, the whole civilized world laugh at you American shits.
Didn’t you know the male biology isn’t as valuable as the female one? Most males are disposable in nature, and that also goes for the male human biology. Most males aren’t even worth procreating. Males aren’t even worth to raise their offspring most of the times, as females of most species do that sacred job all by themselves.
“That is why most criminals are males”
1) this is not even true
2)even if it were, most males aren’t criminals. only a small percentage are, therefore your point and everything else you said is moot.
“Prove it with researches.”
I don’t’ have to. Experience and simple observation is all the proof i need. Just because you choose to ignore it doesn’t mean it isn’t there. Also it is hypocritical coming from you considering the fact that you never proven any claim you made about males being criminals. Take you own fucking advice next time dipshit.
“And also teach us how men, who are such superior big shits, ever allowed
women, who can’t even think and are only instinct, uh hu, to actually
scape (women felt like escaping to begin with; if women were meant to
only reproduce, why would they ever feel like doing something else? how
would they ever have the capacity to do such?) the male oppression and
now show more intelligence than many or most men in many ways, rule
Countries, win nobel prizes, etc.”
This is a loaded question and curricular reasoning since it already assumes what it is trying to prove. Fail yet again.
“Don’t you American idiots see how stupid you guys sound by saying
animals of the same species are THAT different from one another, only
because of their sex? To the point of actually mentioning rationality
and thought? You guys are just pathetic, the whole civilized world laugh at you American shits.”
Ad-hommion attack. It can be safely ignored since it isn’t a argument at all.
“Didn’t you know the male biology isn’t as valuable as the female one?”
If that were true than males would have no biological reason to even exist at all. Females can only exist due to males and vice versa. Your argument is self-refuting.
All of your arguments are noting but logical fallacy after logical fallacy with no data to support it which you hypocritical demanded from me. You are nothing more than a butt hurt troll who can’t get over the fact that women are inferior to men in almost every category of measurement possible. Continue you sophistry and troll though. It will only get you ban by the mods. That way i don’t have to deal with your nonsense anymore.
>>In other words, women are so much inferior to men that need to be told what to do by men otherwise they will destroy themselves with their own animal emotions, childish delusions and fantasies about how the world works. <<
I’d love to see you say that to my former physics teacher’s face :D. She was probably the only teacher at our prep school was running a business on the side. She didn’t need to teach, but liked doing it. One of the most feared ones, as fazing or bullshitting her was next to impossible. No one’s ever seen her nervous or sick, which she claimed was due to having been showering exclusively in cold water since 1965..
Just like some men are brave and some cowards, some stupid and some canny.. women are not all the same. Yeah, they are different on average, but a society which tries to treat them all the same is gonna make the ones that don’t fit very, very unhappy. There is a reason why Utah leads the US in happy pill consumption..
I have to say that some of the articles on here seem to approach trolling more than enlightened commentary.
I contrast this with yesterday’s Troy Francis post, where he points out some of the social truths exposed in Woody Allen’s Crimes and Misdemeanors. Troy brings out good points about what attracts women, what men have been trained to expect should work vs. what actually does, and generalizes it to experiences most of us have had with women; that they’re unreliable, dishonest about what they really want, selfish to the point of absurdity, and as said above “focus on their wants not their shoulds.” All valid, observable criticisms that men should realize when forming their view of gender relations.
Then Blair has to go all Oscar Wilde (“They have wonderfully primitive instincts. We have emancipated them, but they remain slaves looking for their masters all the same.”) and make us look like frustrated neckbeard Unabombers.
A post like the above can rile the passions, but it’s about as thoughtful as high school graffiti. Most of me is convinced that it’s clickbait
There are lots of rookies that need to read this
It’s hyperbole. People seem to be bad at discerning satire.
In this context, I’m not sure there’s actually a meaningful distinction between hyperbole and trolling. Certainly I don’t see the irony needed to qualify as satire
“A truly strong and empowered person has no need to convince himself of it.”
LOL. If you’re so strong and empowered, why do you need to write articles attacking women and asserting your so-called superiority? You’re just making yourself look like a bunch of fragile-minded little pricks with mommy issues.
Also, a man tried to rape my best friend… she popped both of his testicles with her bare hands. Some of you deserve the same.
“Women and homosexuals are discouraged from commenting here.”
Why don’t you bend over and suck your own dick?
a woman will always argue the person, not the issue.
But 1 in 4 college men don’t get their balls popped?
Thankfully, no. The guys on here may be douchey, but you don’t represent the majority. It would be terrible if that actually happened to 1/4 of college men.
You are correct, articles such as you’re referring to don’t need to be written – just read your comment. Advocating violence because someone has a different point of view.
I said SOME of you deserve that. I’d only do that to a rapist. Since most men here are calling women subhuman, I assume there’s a fair amount of rapists in the mix.
You are the reason men have withdrawn from society at large. Listen to the toxicity you spew. You assume there are a fair amount of rapists here? Do you understand the implications of the words you use?
*IS a fair amount of rapists here
If you’re going to assert your superiority, please consider opening a fucking grammar book.
This website is full of men comparing women to animals, so I don’t believe my assumption was THAT out of line. I’m not going to waste another second on someone who cannot formulate a sentence in English. Your stupidity speaks for itself. Bye.
Subhuman is when women let dogs and horses fuck them.
lolz
So instead of refuting the assertion itself you choose to focus on a trivial grammatical error. Then you congratulate yourself for being oh so clever.
These points prove themselves.
Are you…are you kidding? Do you even realize what you just implied? NEVER, throw those terms and words around! Those are massively ignorant claims that discredit BOTH genders. Also, implying that somebody is a sociopathic serial rapist is a pretty extreme reaction to “I think these people are being mean to me!”
Don’t carelessly toss about such harmful statements.
I almost feel bad responding to you. I sincerely don’t want to hurt your feelings – you simply don’t know any better. Paradoxically, the men on this forum are probably some of the most virtuous you’ll encounter. Many here are disillusioned and angry because they have poured themselves into women who gave their best years away to other men – their prize has been had before. The 21st century greets masculinity with contempt. As men, we are trying to find incentives to keep the world spinning. This is a place for men to strengthen other men, not bicker.
Classic female defensive behavior. Changing the subject. You always have to be on the look out for that one.
“Paradoxically, the men on this forum are probably some of the most virtuous you’ll encounter.”
AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA! Virtuous men who wanted women to have no rights once again and live in the same way when men could still buy and sell their own daughters and wives, raping and killing them freely. Men who believe Islamic societies are great.
Guys like you often have rapist tendencies.
Just like most males in all species in nature, right? If you guys believe women are “inferior and dumb” by nature (something that can’t be proven of any female of any specie) why not admit you guys are rapists by nature (something that is a FACT, as males of all species rape femalea and youngers at high rates)?
For the entertainment of men who want to watch it on their screen and jerk off to.
Except for all those dogfucking women that end up in prison and not on the internet.
I don’t advocate buying and/or selling daughters or wives, nor do I advocate raping and/or killing them. I don’t believe Islamic societies are great either. I don’t really understand your comment.
It’s the tactic of a fool and/or coward.
You would make a good Muslim. Even if what you report is factual: You think physical mutilation is fair punishment for attempted rape?
I know, let’s bring back stoning. You would fit in great in Afghanistan.
I hope you know you sound like a raving lunatic, advocating “popping testicles” as punishment for holding opinions.
And then, of course, you can’t come up with anything good, so you say “little pricks”. You’re just proving to everyone who reads your comments that women are like feral cats.
Speaking of which, what good is a feral cat? Can’t use it for medical research. But I tell you this, if you hit one with your car, back over it to make sure the job is done.
To all women reading this:
You are NOT WELCOME here! Its bad enough with women not knowing their place in society, but now on the internet as well. Jesus Christ. You women and the henpecked simp mangina white knight jackasses, need to go find another forum to participate in.
Return of Kings is a place for masculine men, not women. I hope the mods find a way to block these feminists. What they did to Matt Forney and now commenting in nearly every article, goes to show how out of touch they are with what a real man wants.
These women deserve to be mocked and ridiculed on this website because men are now waking up (except for the manginas.) I am glad women are now complaining about where did all the good men go. We crossed the road the moment we saw you.
So if you have any real self respect, then as a women, stop trying to challenge men and know where your place in society is. Instead of commenting here, why don’t you go pick up a copy of the Bible or the other religious books. It will do you some real good.
Just becaaaaause you have a small dick doesn’t mean you have to hate on women.
“Women and homosexuals are discouraged from commenting here.”
Love your come back love it love it love it!
“Women and homosexuals are discouraged from commenting here.”
truth, there’s no point in repeating yourself to this one. She has no education, she has no intelligence. She’s going to walk in and do whatever the fuck she wants because she has to consult with her vagina on a consistent basis so it can tell her what she has the power to do. So, she knows how to speak queef.
How do you walk into a website?
The mods are surely taking a holiday or something.
Oh, gee. I can’t be figurative. my oh my, what a fucking surprise.
Oh gee and I can’t be sarcastic figures!
you’re right, it figures a woman can’t be sarcastic. they have to grasp humor first.
Aww cute…twisting what I said.
I’m glad you approve!
Never said I approved are you going crazy?
that depends, are you the kind of woman that likes to stick her clit into a light socket? If not, then we’re never going to be made for each other.
kiss kiss, my little garden snail!
Lol woah woah woah now THATS weird! Good job it’s takes a lot to surprise me.
She’s play fighting with you dude. Its a turn on for her…
My God, you have the mind of a child.
LOL it’s so fun messing with you guys.
No one cares about you. Did it occur to you that you’re being messed with? You’re just making women look bad. Not that they don’t do a pretty good job of that without your help.
I’ve said it once I’ll say it again. You’re the reason why feminists exist. I guarantee you I make more money then you how do you feel about that? Until you make 6 figures like I do then you can talk.
Um, sweetie, it’s THAN you, not THEN you.
No one cares what you said or how often you said it.
And you are the reason misogynists exist. Spread the hate, honey, it’s about all you do well.
Alexandra, you are wasting your time…these are males…the Inferior Gender, The Slave Gender, Beasts of Burden…they were born with simple, testosterone poisoned brains…though the testosterone *does* serve a purpose..it allows them to be more easily used by Us…which we have effectively done for 6000 years…and will continue to do so far into the future. I do give the male readership here *some* credit…they are smarter than most…they do realize what We’ve done to them…and that’s a good deal more than most of the population that contains a revolting sausage between their legs that is tied to their tiny brains.
Oooo, can we keep this one? She has spunk. Little do you realize your poor hamster wheel is off kilter because your fellow degenerates revealed too much. And just like that, oops, all gone. See when you learn to combine rocks for fire. Word gets out and your brain may be put to use. Imagine that? Reading comprehension. No man to pamper you because women must now give sex away to be provided for. More men using inventions on themselves for personal gain. More women forced into unemployment without additional income because, whoops! No child for a check. No husband because he knows better. Just a beta boss, whom after providing your 18th blowjob for his birthday, has to let you know, “Karen, we were bought by China. ” Sorry Karen, Mr Chan already has an over-qualified mistress who has earned her keep. So thanks for noticing the difference Karen but to put it bluntly, “You know you fucked up right?”
So… what are you wearing?
So feminists only exist as they cannot get what they think is a good man?
“No man to pamper you because women must now give sex away to be provided for.”
LMAO! And I thought most women in America could find their own jobs and all… Well, at least women could be prostitutes if they were jobless… men can be hungry or kill themselves. Mostly become criminals as most men have also done.
Oh that is simple. Silly lady, you’ve only acquired jobs due to degrees from school. Once the economy tosses those out as supply and demand will make it a necessity, and your lack of ingenuity proves how inadequate you are to the global woman, servicing a man will be all you can do. You’ve lost domestic skills, can’t invent a thing without assistance, can’t lift, have already produced a surplus of women to bed, and proved the last step keeping youu around was a body and children. Fembots will do away with all of those purposes. You have no skills, trades, or worth much higher than sexual value. That gave you 7 years. Don’t worry women 2.0 will replace you soon. Thanks for over-playing your hand.
Now with all those criminal men and displaced, unskilled women displaced on the streets, good luck surviving. And for the women left who are forced to apply skill to maintain work, don’t get pregnant. It may just be the death of two lives.
Worked hard all my life and never made close to that. I also worked in areas that would have you and your beta dick boyfriend (if you even have one) quake in fear. You don’t deserve a real man and I’m sure a real man would only use you for gratification if you have some talent. If. One more thing. In my years in the business world I’ve noticed that there isn’t usually a strong correlation between earning power and intellectual power. Particularly in today’s PC leftist statist world.
Bill Duke?
Hah! Nope. Just some guy who gets the meat of her argument. More so than I would like to.
These hypothetical scenarios that your kind soo desperately long for are nothing more than pipe dreams with virtually no chance of actually occurring. There is a *much* better chance of codified Gynocracy in the West by 2030 than the silly fantasies that germinate in the brains of all bitter males. Truth be told, I sincerely believe that within 10 years, there is a reasonable chance that males will be stripped of their right to vote and own property. Within 15 years, they may lose all their rights and be nothing more than thralls. Their brute strength and brawn will make them exceptionally fit for hard labor and servitude…and their tiny brains will never let them understand how girls enslaved them…or how to extricate themselves from a predicament that will last for centuries.
Like I said before, “You know you fucked up right?”
Over playing your hand, your kind has allowed man to see the true callous, fickle, conniving, manipulative nature of your being. With marriage being seen for tthhe fallacy it is and moving man away from the corporate realm your kind has shifted balance. Men are leaving to start business. Free oof corporate secretaries, business degree holder and other soft spoken placement holders seeking independence. You think your kind has it good? Picture five years tops, the lack of men going to college, progression stagnant, China storming down our borders over thhe debt we owe and the women saying, “We are strong and independent. Won’t our laws protect us?” Can your minds cure ebola? Can you build weapons to fight back? Can your servile men who clamored to suicide muster the strength to defend you? You oh so benevolent slave master you? Why wait 15 when in 5 China will remind you why they were once known as the Red Scare.
Pfft, 6000 years of slavery? How about barely 50 for your brand of stupid. 5 more though until you are replaced by your Asian familiars. Happy trails.
To “Red Hood”: Once the male gender has been subjugated to thralldom, I might consider purchasing you. Watching you cower as my servant and errand boy for the rest of your life will be soo much fun. I will indelibly etch in your heart and mind a feeling of reverence for and obedience to the concept of Girl Power.
I dooooo noooot caaaaaare. At least my boyfriend is getting some every day unlike you he’s 240 pounds of solid muscle ya he’s not a “real” man. You guys are so pathetic it is unreal. Goodbye.
A response such is that is like sooo not surprising. Asking me “what I’m wearing” is a perfect example of your gender’s inferiority. Your gender has such strong desires for us that it makes you easy to control. We reserve the right to use those desires to get you to do what we want, and to punish you when you don’t.
Ah Karen, ye of high faith, your gender has yet to prove it can stabilize itself long enough to keep itself running. Burning far too many bridges has put you in the unenviable position of breadwinner. Now that you are there, the men are gone, you havee removed your only reliable tool, strong men. You think our Asian brethren care about your agency? The same Asian group who killed girls first because they foresaw they add nothing? While they suffer the same genocide your kind seems to wish to initiate here, due to their own whimsical nature’s, I’ll be back on an island. If you send a well painted bottle I may send you postcard of men and women frolicking together, while you are in shackles hoping to see the next sun rise. Oh Karen, you were a strong soul. You taught many secrets as you were broken in. I’ll name the destruction of America, The house built by Karen. Girl Power!
To “Red Hood”: Oh my, a male with a flair for the dramatic. Once the matriarchy is firmly ensconced, we will make certain that any trade with that idyllic island of yours strictly forbidden…so I hope you have a rather significant affinity for coconuts. Face the facts boy…enslavement is your gender’s unalterable destiny…and the reality of it is getting closer every day.
Oh ye of the presumptuous nature. Just like so many articles of consideration, you fail to see how future actions can be predicted based on the behaviors of today. With the rise of a feminine state, more homosexuals male and female populate your once vast slave haven. The older styled masculine men have left you to their borders. And while fashion is on the rise and homes have gotten bigger, your feminine waists have gotten wider than the necessary used for birthing. When men ran you, thinness was prevalent and you competed well. With this layer of fat, a leaven of sloth has blanketed everything you ear marked as a society. Where we once protected our borders with bodies, now it is long distance weapons and biological warfare. You think with a widening gap of commerce and the inherent instability wrought by women, that you have men to worry about serving a noble master? You have damaged your borders, left the future unattended, and smiled gleefully expecting man to smile and save the day. In breaking the man, as you so lovingly put it, you splattered the bow, and down will come baby, cradle and all. Or in this case men who want to be slaves for Theyy truly are to weak to survive, women who lacked foresight beyond selfie, and baby who will know nothing other than sex as freedom. No worries China’s Red Scare will make those dreary months of “damn my period again” seem like a wet dream.
And I say again, ” Hehehe…You know you done fucked up, Right?”
I’ll ship you a nice Mango, Strawberry Smoothie with maybe 4.6 percent alcohol. Anything higher might cause you to forget the dire straits you are in.
Alexandra…that is like soo not fair…most of the male readers of ROK *also* make six figures…unfortunately, two of those figures are to the right of the decimal point *giggles*
On Red Hood and his latest soliloquy of staggering prolixity: TL;DR
Lol
Heh, you’ve taught your unfortunate man-servant well. Until our next spat. I applaud your attempt at making this a debate.
*Curtseys*
Respect garnered where respect is earned. Don’t rest on your laurels. You’ll need to earn it again when next we speak.
Hah! Good Eye!
Dude, Red Hood, stop arguing. She’s just taking you down the rabbit hole. Just stop. It will never EVER end. If you’re a reader of this site you should know that.
Lmao!! I already won. It’s all good. They are associates at this point. If it were in person might’ve been more. Did you see how the threads ended?
I did see how it ended and you wasted your time. No real arguments were made.
No, to the contrary the argument I needed was made. I already theorized the women who came here had no real argument. The truth is the women who came here have nothing to say. This was the perfect example of game. Staying in youur frame and standing your ground. In the end of all of the situations I never changed my stance, or my opinion and we all walked away smiles. I think there is an immense lesson of maintaining frame. The women who came here was a test. If you are strong in who you are you beliefs will withstand the test no problem and you will have fun. Women won’t be convinced to change by words. The maintaining frame challenge was what I got and ran with here. In that sense I won every argument.
The argument I made was silent. I set how to test how little the women who came her actually cared about slut shaming or misogyny. In truth they only sought to take the word back. They could care less for being called sluts. Women shame each other all the time. Feminism is a farce. Slut shaming is done by women. And they only came here as a massive shit test. You go emotional you lose. You play their game you lose. You maintain frame you win.
I do make 6 figures. I got here through skill and hardwork, not through sleeping my way to the top. You are a prime example of everything in this article. You have an inability to argue facts so you just resort to ridicule of someone’s penis size. Apparently, cock is always ona feminist’mind because no penis will come near her in real life.
Lol! Classic movie.
I was tempted to use the whole quote but didn’t find the right person to test it on. That dude was funny as shit.
I agree with that statement 100%. If where you stand is where you really stand then no big deal.
I’m not a feminist. Once again. I can defend women and not be a feminist. I did not sleep my way to the top I don’t like women that do that why would I be one of them? The reason I came on here is because of that very statement, you assumed because I am a women who makes good money that I slept my way to the top
Every comment you have on here reeks of the same hampster-driven feminist propaganda we hear every day from your SJW types. Run along now, I’m sure one your cats needs attention.
I don’t know what SJW stands for but none of what you said applies to what I just said. Run along and go jack off to your porn
Unlike you, darling, I don’t need to. That 6 figure income goes a long way into enticing young little 20-something whores ready to put out for the chance of engaging in hypergamy, to which they never do. Once again, since you can’t stick to issues you resort to personal attacks (as stated in the article). And once again, you prove you have nothing but cock on your mind, cock you will never have the pleasure of partaking from myself or anyone else.
I am 24 years old making 6 figures and just got engaged. You resorted to personal attacks so I attacked you. Fair game. I’m not allowed to defend myself?
Ohhhhhh Goddddd…it’s hamster…..not hampster. Please for the love of all that is holy, get it right!!!
The best you can come up with is an attack on a misspelled word? Goes to show that when a woman can’t argue the facts, she resorts to ad hominem attacks on the person. The more you slores open your mouths the more you prove everything the article states and validate everything I said. If you were smart enough to realize that, then maybe men with brains would take you seriously. As for your plea to God about my spelling, what do you think he frowns upon more? A misspelled word or your life of whoring on the cock carousel?
Oh my…touched a nerve, did I? Actually, I responded to your misspelling because it was driving me crazy. If you can’t spell shit right, what with spell check and text prediction and SIMPLE FUCKING GRAMMAR AND SPELLING learned in Elementary school, then shut the fuck up. But that doesn’t even come close to being as offensive to me as the hateful, vile, sewage that I have read here on this site. It doesn’t take an idiot feminist to be offended by all this crap…just a human. This is sad. I am not a feminist…never could be, nor would I want to be. They do way more damage to women than good. But you have got to see that this deep rooted hatred that is being nurtured here is pathological at best. Come on guys…stop this nonsense.
“Actually, I responded to your misspelling because it was driving me crazy”. Listen cupcake, we both know that your being crazy has nothing to do with me misspelling SINGLE word. The fact that you have to go on a tirade about it is indicative of your mental disorder. And since you’re such a fucking grammar Nazi that can’t stand grammar mistake about rewriting the “shut the fuck UP” sentence to something else, since grammatically you cannot end a sentence with a preposition. Let me help you out: Shut the fuck up, cupcake.
My bad….shut the fuck up, Douche Bag. Is that better. Now how about responding to all the vile poison being spewed on this site?
Well honestly Femdom is not really my style but I can be open-minded. So I’m guessing it’s thigh high leather stilettos for you. Black leather bra. Cat O Nine Tails?
attaboy ! attaboy ! sic’em !
Risking the ire of the mods …
@ Alexandra and Karen: I’ll take you seriously when you post nude full-body pics of yourselves. Before that, nothing.
That sooo many comments accumulated in such a short time for this article serve as irrefutable evidence of the intense V-envy the male readers of this site are tormented by.
The rebellious, conspicuous, humiliating appendages…better known as the phallus and the testicles they were born with…essentially serve to brand the male into a lifetime of thralldom…both psychological & physical.
Though it is a part of *their* body…The Superior Feminine Gender can basically control it at will. Since the masculine mind is so intensely focused on sex, they need not actually see Us with their eyes…all they need do is imagine Us in their brains…and this is sufficient to generate longing, desire, emotional distress, and a whole host of emotions…along with the involuntary physical expansion of their sausage *giggles*
Of course, Society has wisely designed a whole host of rules & regulations which limit the male’s sexual freedom…while simultaneously making maximum use of his bulk & brawn…which the Goddess gave him so he could effectively serve the Superior Female every waking moment of his existence. *bitchy smirk*
Im black my dick is bigger than your leg and i still hate on dumb feminist cunts like you.
Was I talking to you? No. Do you need attention or something? Weirdo. You have some serious anger issues.
and you sound like a whore with too much time on your hands.
What does 1 Peter 3 say about women? Refresh my memory.
1 peter 3:1-6
1 Likewise [a]let the wives be subject to their husbands, [b]that even they which obey not the word, may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives.
2 While they behold your pure conversation which is with fear:
3 [c]Whose appareling let it not be that outward, with braided hair, and gold put about, or in putting on of apparel:
4 But let it be the [d]hidden man of the heart, which consisteth in the incorruption of a meek and quiet spirit, which is [e]before God a thing much set by.
5 [f]For
even after this manner in time past did the holy women, which trusted
in God, tire themselves, and were subject to their husbands.
6 As Sarah obeyed Abraham, and called him Sir: whose daughters ye are, while ye do well, [g]not being afraid of any terror.
A clearer NIV translation:
1 Peter 3:1-6New International Version (NIV)
3 Wives, in the same way submit yourselves to your own husbands so that, if any of them do not believe the word, they may be won overwithout words by the behavior of their wives, 2 when they see the purity and reverence of your lives. 3 Your beauty should not come from outward adornment, such as elaborate hairstyles and the wearing of gold jewelry or fine clothes. 4 Rather, it should be that of your inner self, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is of great worth in God’s sight.5 For this is the way the holy women of the past who put their hope in God used to adorn themselves. They submitted themselves to their own husbands, 6 like Sarah, who obeyed Abraham and called him her lord.You are her daughters if you do what is right and do not give way to fear.
Clearer NIV translation my ass:
https://duckduckgo.com/l/?kh=-1&uddg=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bible-researcher.com%2Fcbmw.niv2011.2.pdf
That particular passage goes on to explain that men, in turn, should love their wives as Christ has loved the church. (Christ loved the church by dying for her.) This means that men should love their wives sacrificially, considering her more important than themselves.
I am literally shaking right now because I just came across this website. It’s despicable to use the words of Paul to justify what’s said in this article– that women are worthless outside of sex and servanthood. That’s certainly not the attitude that Jesus had, he showed compassion to prostitutes when they had little to no place in society.
This website truly terrifies me. I hope and pray that I don’t marry a man who secretly believes this.
I wish there was some way for me to alert all women to beware.
How many guys have you fucked? You aren’t a Christian woman. You’re a chastising feminist cunt that knows the bible. Big difference.
Don’t the traditional Christian marriage vows say something about a woman obeying her husband?
LITERALLY SHAKING. From words you read on the internet. You sound emotionally stable.
The same Christ who dismantled a church over what they worshipped and forced the Church to remodel how they chose to accept people?
It will all be okay! Please do not get upset!
I have read a lot of articles on this website, where some are very concerning, others are kind of funny. These men do have certain validity in thoughts about certain western women, it is unfortunate that they have lost faith in the entire gender. It is a shame that BOTH genders have little regard to honestly, loyalty, integrity and respect in the contemporary world. That is what our culture gets when valuing materialism and consumerism over other human beings. One expects things a certain way when one cannot live to one’s own expectations. It is upsetting that radical feminists and radical patriarchs believe there should be a war between genders. We should comfort each other and work together to make humanity better and better! There are good eggs out there, do not fret! I think you should keep your values close to your heart,try your best to achieve your ambitions and goals, stay positive, treat others with respect and kindness and have fun! Love and respect, Dani
using the c word and bible in the same sentence good Christian!
This ain’t about me cunt. How many guys have you fucked?
MMM probably more guys then you have?
maybe not who knows??!
#firstworldproblems
I think she is due for some Chamomille Tea.
Bethany, I believe in grace and forgiveness – these are two powerfully human qualities. I don’t condemn you.
I think you may be missing the point of this website. Yes, it is brutally honest and brash but underneath the fowl language and testosterone there is a lot of truth that unfortunately men cannot find anywhere else on the internet.
Even the bible warns of wayward female behavior in Proverbs:
Warning Against the Adulterous Woman
7 My son, keep my words
and store up my commands within you.
2 Keep my commands and you will live;
guard my teachings as the apple of your eye.
3 Bind them on your fingers;
write them on the tablet of your heart.
4 Say to wisdom, “You are my sister,”
and to insight, “You are my relative.”
5 They will keep you from the adulterous woman,
from the wayward woman with her seductive words.
6 At the window of my house
I looked down through the lattice.
7 I saw among the simple,
I noticed among the young men,
a youth who had no sense.
8 He was going down the street near her corner,
walking along in the direction of her house
9 at twilight, as the day was fading,
as the dark of night set in.
10 Then out came a woman to meet him,
dressed like a prostitute and with crafty intent.
11 (She is unruly and defiant,
her feet never stay at home;
12 now in the street, now in the squares,
at every corner she lurks.)
13 She took hold of him and kissed him
and with a brazen face she said:
14 “Today I fulfilled my vows,
and I have food from my fellowship offering at home.
15 So I came out to meet you;
I looked for you and have found you!
16 I have covered my bed
with colored linens from Egypt.
17 I have perfumed my bed
with myrrh, aloes and cinnamon.
18 Come, let’s drink deeply of love till morning;
let’s enjoy ourselves with love!
19 My husband is not at home;
he has gone on a long journey.
20 He took his purse filled with money
and will not be home till full moon.”
21 With persuasive words she led him astray;
she seduced him with her smooth talk.
22 All at once he followed her
like an ox going to the slaughter,
like a deer[a] stepping into a noose[b]
23 till an arrow pierces his liver,
like a bird darting into a snare,
little knowing it will cost him his life.
24 Now then, my sons, listen to me;
pay attention to what I say.
25 Do not let your heart turn to her ways
or stray into her paths.
26 Many are the victims she has brought down;
her slain are a mighty throng.
27 Her house is a highway to the grave,
leading down to the chambers of death.
Yeah. But they deleted that aspect because of modernity.
Bravo!! Finally, someone gets the real plight at work and why men have gathered to speak here.
“I am literally shaking right now because I just came across this website.”
This should be included in a list of great quotes at the top of Return of Kings dot com.
Poor l̶a̶d̶y̶. …females. Pass the smelling salts for these fragile creatures!
Seriously, they’d BAN most of the Internet if they could.
LOL, she is a liberated western woman.
Bethany, the passage you may be referring to is actually Ephesians 5:22-33. It first implores women to submit to their husbands as to the Lord. Then it makes the parallel between the husband and Christ. It says that Christ died for the church in order to sanctify her, to save her. It goes on to bring up the verse from Genesis that says a man shall leave his parents and cleave to his wife as one flesh. It ends with verse 33 which states: “However, let each one of you love his wife as himself, and let the wife see that she respects her husband”. It is a fact that a man’s desire to lead, protect, and sacrifice, is ignited by a woman’s submission. A man will give life and limb to love a woman who submits to him as she would submit to the Lord. There is wisdom in this passage to those who identify as Christian.
Bethany, I believe the passage you’re referring to is Ephesians 5:22-33. It first implores women to submit to their husbands as they would submit to the Lord. Then it says that husbands should love their wives as Christ loved the church. Christ sacrificed himself for the church in order to sanctify them, to save them. It goes on to repeat the marital axiom from Genesis, which states that a man leaves his parents and cleaves to his wife and they become one flesh. It concludes with verse 33 which states: “However, let each one of you love his wife as himself, and let the wife see that she respects her husband”. It is a known fact that a man’s desire to lead, protect, and sacrifice is ignited by a woman’s desire to submit. His desire to lead, protect, and sacrifice is spoiled by a haughty woman.This passage is a perfect reflection of the ideal woman described in Proverbs 31:10-31. There is wisdom in this dynamic for those who identify as Christians.
Men treated women this way until fairly recently, then feminism destroyed it. Women are getting exactly the kind of men and type of treatment they deserve. Women have ruined marriage to the point that only a fool does it, and only a complete brainless fool fathers a child any more. Women are no longer worthy of good men. I hope and pray that you and your kind are stuck in the shitstorm you created for a long, miserable time.
Let your ways decide your own life; your decisions should be for men to work upon and forgive ?! I’ve tried that, multiple times, and it probably does work ( never worked for me ); forgiveness is something that’s acknowledged between 2 people, not just one that is plain stupid ( the man in most cases ). Obviously you, yourself aren’t proud of what you’ve done so you dare turn to men, to show ,,compassion to prostitutes” ? You’ve got some nerve, lady. We, most men, do follow the example of Christ in many ways, but this one, I believe will have to be put on hold until you the milenial women, learn self-respect and healthy thinking.
Please do, Bethany. Tell as many women, Men and White Knights as you can. Lobby congress to have sites like this censored and shut down. Go on, do it.
I’m a woman and I will tell you what truly terrifies me: Laci Green on Youtube with a million viewers. It terrifies me that my young nieces might watch this obviously unstable woman and believe some of her garbage. Know what else scares me? Fattitude. Know what else scares me? Believing that men are not entitled to a website where they can speak freely. That’s what scares me. Just have a quick look around at the abusive garbage from these so-called feminists (“we want equality”) then come back here and shake and speak about how terrified you are.
with arsenic.
‘It’s despicable to use the words of Paul to justify what’s said in this article– that women are worthless outside of sex and servanthood. That’s certainly not the attitude that Jesus had, he showed compassion to prostitutes when they had little to no place in society.’
americans claim to be christians but they ban prostitution whereas jesus even showed compassion to prostitutes and didn’t judge them. “let those who are without sin cast the 1st stone….”
Thank you. If only everyone could see the real issues at hand rather than being so hostile towards one another… I feel bad for both genders 🙁 We work so well together when there is respect, trust, and positive energy.
Those are very kind words. The problem seems to be growing every day and while women continue to pretend they will just find the right one, more men are realizing they must put in the work in themselves and what counts as unacceptable for themselves within a partner.
What that does spell is maybe a generation more of women(hopefully) partying their hearts out with loneliness waiting them and men burned opting for celibacy as opposed to ruin. It is quite tragic. Clearly, if luck holds out, only the young women stand a chance of gaining husbands, as after a certain age it seems less love and more likely loneliness that gets couples together.
Feminism and sadly desperate men, seem intent on selling this brand of freedom as long as possible, while the reap the sexual rewards of today. All at the cost of a happy tomorrow.
I guess I am “old world” in my views; I was raised with a strong foundation (unlike most of my generation(25) and younger gens) and hold the core values of integrity, respect, honesty, and loyalty very close to my heart. I don’t necessarily agree that women are the ones who initiated this, but both genders added fuel to the growing fire. As I said in my previous comment, I truly believe people (both male and female) disregard the aforementioned core values and instead value materialism/consumerism more. However, I also disagree to generalize, because I have met many men and women who embrace the light, and are not rotten to the core. I like staying optimistic and surround myself with like minded people.
I wonder why partying is such a priority when it isn’t even fun. Nothing good stems from drinking alcohol, and no honest relationship can be built from alcohol and drugs. Hence meeting a man/woman at a bar will rarely result in a successful relationship.
“only the young women stand a chance of gaining husbands” 🙁 aww don’t say that, Yes, certain women(of all ages)have ruined their chances bc they chose to disregard love for a chance of having their perceived notion of “fun”, but certainly not all. Keep in mind that certain men have done the same thing. This type of person, male and female, belong in the same category of scummy people without true values.Like find like, and shitty people belong with shitty people. But these are the bottom of the barrel, and will never find true happiness.
I have heard horror stories about certain relationships, with either gender being at fault, and it does make me question humanity. But I still try to remain optimistic. I think everyone should find love! It is amazing to find someone you can share everything with, and I hope the people with good hearts do find their loves.
I sound so corny, but it is truly what I believe. I will end with my new signature. I think you should keep your values close to your heart,try your best to achieve your ambitions and goals, stay positive, treat others with respect and kindness and have fun. Love and Respect, Dani
No, you don’t sound corny at all. I would like all of those things, love, harmony, happiness, respect, an attempt to retain love and effort to be there for each other. I haven’t run across that yet. I thought I was close but I was wrong. That not withstanding I learned a lot from it and made some solid improvements since.
While each person may need to improve on their own time, and may be in their own space, I think the majority of people are too caught in the now. And I agree with your materialistic and consumerism assessment. It is jarring how lives are tossed, and my experience was by a woman, to the wind for career advancement. Parties add the illusion of a multitude of friends, attention and warmth. All it is really, is the heat of dehydration, thrill of lights, another sexy story to tell, and ducking of reality. Drugged to live and alive to be drugged. In between efforts of course, to maintain access to the drugs. In essence a chance to jump to the entertainment won without any extra work for true lasting joy.
Women of my generation are mostly tired, with child, without man, unhappy to some degree or another and looking for a way out. The ones who are happy are married, maintain a balance of work/life and aren’t absorbed with themselves. There are guys who ducked out on children or decided to never leave home as well. Adults still too close to comfort and afraid of growth. These are strange times.
Btw, I was trying to place the anime where your avatar comes from and I’ve got nothing. Almost thought Naruto but couldn’t place the face. I believe some optimism is necessary and not sure yet how the gap could be bridged for better relations, but attacking either sex, gains no benefits. This attempt to end the family clearly is creating a lot of discord in society and adding needless suffering.
I do appreciate your response as you are clearly, filled with love and have a generally positive vibe. And I do hope some of the ladies who came with rage left with an open mind. Too many bigots floating around nowadays.
I agree with you! No matter what, I will always continue to share my light in hopes of a better tomorrow.
No,not Naruto! Her name is Alphard from the anime Canaan.
1) That was Peter, not Paul
2) The next verse merely says for men to respect their wives. You’re confusing authors again.
3) Jesus didn’t marry prostitutes.
Wow. I’m 24 and a virgin, but I don’t think that’s some sort of credential that makes me “worth more” than any other woman. Jesus was a feminist in his day. Who are you to judge whether I am Christian or not? I would love to hear what you consider to be your “credentials.”
If that’s the case, what would you say IS the point of this website? Do you really find reading this hate speech to be somehow beneficial to you?
What have “women” done? You do realize how ridiculous it is to deem more than 50% of the world’s population as “unworthy”, right? In which case, how are men worthy of good women?
Indeed. My mistake. I suppose I was a bit too worked up to check my details.
Also, the fact that Jesus didn’t marry a prostitute is not the point. Read Hosea.
Please explain to me how I’m “not proud of what I’ve done?”
You’re already too old to change. Don’t mind others and live your butterfly life-style like you’ve done before. You know exactly what I’m referring towards. Wake up!
I actually have no idea what you’re referring to.
The mother of Jesus was a virgin and not a slut for good reason. Stop preaching that sex possie feminist churchian bullshit because it’s not Christianity.
Hm. Are you sure? What about in John 4, when Jesus meets the woman at the well? I’m not saying that Christianity doesn’t value sexual purity. All that I’m saying is that Jesus valued women. Perhaps you should look into that.
John 4??
You mean the Samaritan tramp that lied about her sexual history and had Jesus call her out for being a whore? Jesus valued sinners repenting…
Perhaps you should look into shedding your slutty feminist indoctrination. That’s all I’m saying.
You’re right. Jesus did value sinners repenting. Jesus also classified sexual sin as being anything the least bit lustful – such as looking at someone and thinking sexual thoughts. This would include pornography. By that standard I imagine both men and women need to do a lot of repenting.
The article above says that we should “be fair in our judgements.” I agree. I think that it’s fair to judge men and women by the same moral code. If women are sluts for being promiscuous, then so are men.
Ahhh. More whore feminism trying to creep into Christianity. Men and women are different from Genesis. Go the fuck away, slut!
Namecalling won’t get me to leave. What a cheap way to argue. In fact, it just makes me more confident that I’ve struck a chord.
Just because women and men are different doesn’t make one more valuable than another. It also doesn’t mean that they should be held to different standards.
What do you mean by “whore feminism?”
Please tell me what makes you feel like you know something about Christianity.
Except I’m not arguing, slut. We stopped arguing when you made the absurd claim that female promiscuity is no big deal.
Now if you want to admit that you were wrong… then we can discuss.
I absolutely never said that it’s “no big deal.”
Except that’s absolutely what you said…
“I’m 24 and a virgin, but I don’t think that’s some sort of credential that makes me “worth more” than any other woman”
So not only are you a slut apologist, but also a liar.
Indeed, like all people I have lied and committed a number of sins. I don’t believe this instance is one of those times.
The point is that people are people. Everyone deserves human decency and respect. Whether or not sexual morality is important to a person, there is never an excuse to treat them like they are worthless.
People are people. Blah. Blah. Blah. More feminist inspired cunty nonsense and lies from your lips.
Originally you wrote that virgins aren’t “worth more” than sluts which you now have all of a sudden changed to sluts aren’t “worthless”.
Well no shit, lying bitch. Sluts aren’t “worthless”, but they sure as hell don’t rank anywhere near virgins which is what you first suggested.
Now run along.
What is your stance on male promiscuity? How do you justify your double standard?
Oooh, more feminist whore questions that support an ideology of androgyny. Christianity believes in gender roles Bethany so take your “double standard” and cram it up your liberal cunt.
I honestly just find it hilarious that you keep trying to talk to me about Christianity and yet feel justified in calling me a cunt/slut/bitch.
“Gender roles” doesn’t mean that women must be pure and chaste while men can just do whatever they feel like. Obviously.
“Ideology of Androgyny?” Honestly. I love being a woman. I love it when men act like MEN.
If you want to know what a man is, stop reading this blog and just watch the movie Braveheart.
Do you prefer sodomite? You seriously haven’t the slightest grasp of Christianity which is why you incessantly need to apologize for sluttiness and compare female sexuality with male sexuality.
One question tell me where a woman’s place is in society?
A few inches below my waist with my cock in their mouths to keep them from uttering their feminist nonsense.
God no!!! No one wants your cock in their mouth!!
You know you love it. I know right now you are thinking about all the sensations you would feel if it was really happening.
Even your own mother and daughters? Not that men have ever cared about incest, in fact most men have engaged in it in the past, raping their own mothers, sisters and daughters and so on… so, yeah, I see your point. Thanks for admitting it, though.
No everyone loves sucking ugly American male’s (I know, pleonasm) cock as much as you, stop projecting.
Meet thhe modern woman. Independence has taught you onee thing, I too can be like a man. *Sucks off 30 men and contracts herpes. Later is beaten by husband for he contracting her herpes.
Same woman to girlfriends 30 minutes after cops leave hubbie in tow, “Why does no one love me???”
Idk sounds like you’re the one feeling the “sensation” in your mouth.
woah don’t bring your personal issues into it!
You again?! I thought I dealt with you yesterday. Is this the kind of treatment you wish you were getting daily but your boys can’t seem to get it up?
Not my fault my email was blown up by you guys gotta say something back.
Cool. At this point, it isn’t even about the original argument but you being turned on being talked to by men. Probably would be a fun lay but not disproving anything that was said about sluts.
Turned on? Lol thats the last thing on my mind when talking to you weirdos. Its just fun getting you women haters mad simple as that.
Phew…I mean damn. almost got one. Honestly the feeling is mutual for you misandrists. Your insults pale in comparison to how little you think. Maybe it is that you usually start your arguments emotionally. I used to think feminists had a truthful argument. Now it makes sense to think feminist just like talking. Granted you came to let out rage and whatever void you have in your personal life. It sure wasn’t to change the opinion on sluts. And honestly, I smelled your bs a mile away. Just wanted to give you a chance to show me more
I am not a feminist. You are telling me that I have a small mind when you guys put women in one category THAT is small minded. It is almost as bad as saying black people should still be slaves. I haven’t seen you say anything nice about women. This whole website is about shaming women. “We should be submissive to our husbands, we should not work, we are only good for having babies and giving sex, we are dumb and emotionally unstable, men should still be able to beat their wives, we can’t control ourselves, and need to be lead by a man otherwise we are lost”. ALL OF THIS IS FUCKING SMALL MINDED. Am I here saying all men are rapists all men are pedophiles, men should be labor workers get off the computer and fix my fucking sink, how about if you aren’t a handy man & cant build me a house your USELESS! NO I am not so tell me again how am I the small minded one?
Hmm, hold on, I’ll sip my tea.
Okay, you, are a woman with values all around. As such you chose to come hhere to defend your right to not be called a slut correct. Why? 15 years ago would you have cared if some stranger? More importantly who called you a slut? You generalized the statement where if a woman wrote the same commentary about a women, she’d be laughed at and call it a day. That you were a part of the conversation thread where a woman spoke of controlling men for 6000 years speaks volumes of your true value. Maybe mine as well as I gave a few solid counter arguments. I tend to givve what I get. And I do it well. At the end of the day I value respect most. This comment is maybe your most honest and yet it still screams of rage.
To show how little you care about your cause let me posit a thought. What did you do to stop the use of the word slut? Have you called a woman a slut? Does this imply all women, including your mother, is a slut? That is tthe over-generalization you argue by coming here to argue. Are you really so naive to broad stroke an insult or is this something different?
I’ve said it several times over and I’ll say it again. The word doesn’t matter. It only matters that I, a straight man, said it. Not your gay friends. Not your girlfriends. A guy. So obviously to make me a misogynist you must generalize my use to mean all women. Will you stop calling other women sluts? Bitches, cunts, douches, pussies, or any of the other litany of words posted in the last two days? You are neither offended nor disgusted. You’ve liked more than enough misandrist statements to prove that. You want to stop the hate. Stop yourself from using hateful words. How I’m sharing with you now? This is my baseline temperament. Do you sense any hate?
So… What’s wrong with the sink?
No where in my comment did I say you shouldn’t call a girl who is being a slut a slut. 15 years ago id be 9 so that’d be a little weird. My point was to stop assuming every girl is a whore. I’m done talking about it I don’t care anymore I don’t care about what you think or anyone else thinks on this thread. I was messing with you guys it was fun while it lasted have a great weekend. Loosen up a little bit ok? Goodbye.
I am quite serious about a world where truth and respect are staples.
Outside of that I’m all smiles! Sport love, Mets, Yankees, Knicks, and such. I knew it!! This was a two day fight over a random generalization spilled over into sexism rants.
Enjoy your weekend. And best believe we are only calling them as we see them. Respect gets respect
Lol I agree with you.
BTW go Yankees 😉
Hopefully not too far! Ladies love Jeter is gone
Aww Jeter ;( so sad!
One last thing before I go I want you to tell me that you respect women I just want one guy on here to say it and I’ll feel better. I don’t consider a woman a woman who sleeps around and dresses like a whore I dislike them..those are girls & I don’t associate myself with them. Sex is very intimate & is meant to give to someone who you either expect to be with for a very long time or marry. I grew up knowing that doing that just gets you in trouble and gets you treated with no respect so next time you guys are talking about whores don’t say “women” say girls it’ll keep you out of trouble 😉 again have a great weekend!!
Well that should be a no-brainer! I have a lot of respect for women which I why I saw women when I talk about women and sluts when I talk about sluts. The horrifying aspect is due to feminism, what would once have been deplorable behavior, women sleeping around, is now considered empowering. Sluts house orgies, seek out debased acts for sex, on par with what is witnessed in pornography, and like pornography, always seem to want to push the boundary. Then mask their over sexed nature publicly when a spot light is shown and screaming, you hate women and my body my right.
Why this is a problem is a woman can always access a sex partner where a man must charm one. Charming takes longer and requires more effort. Just there a woman has more chances to have sex. Internally a woman can harbor a bunch of stds waiting to spring onto a guy. A guy will notice his stds as his organ is on the outside. A man’s internal code of honor dictates he will tell the truth if prompted. A woman communicates more to avoid conflict making lies more likely to happen. So while highly sexual nature’s are bad, with women they tend to not be revealed until it has already been spread.
We are spreading the knowledge of sluts and characteristics to spot because some guys here want monogamy and hope to find an honest relationship. So best believe we respect women too the utmost. Otherwise we wouldn’t be defining our cumulative problems and finding factual solutions. Hopefully more women can eventually open things up further so online isn’t the only place where you’ll see men being honest.
Cause right now, I can’t say a general manly joke without being considered a woman hater or worse lose my livelihood. It is much safer today, as per feminism, to be a woman, gay or so watered down as a man you wouldn’t know I was one if I weren’t dating a woman.
And not sure if you are gonna watch the World Series but Should be interesting. Since it isn’t the Yankees it’ll just be a chance to share beers!
Take Care and good talking with you
Now if every guy said what you said there wouldn’t be a bunch of women on here harassing you guys! Thank you and if that’s the truth that they want monogamy that’s awesome! Cheers! 🙂
Way to go kid ! http://giphy.com/gifs/applause-clapping-oscars-srg19CG0cKMuI
way to go kid !
http://giphy.com/gifs/applause-clapping-oscars-srg19CG0cKMuI
Haha! Thanks. My personal favorite in that gif? The bearded man looking around while doing the fist pump
The guys arguing with them don’t seem to realize they’re feeding these broads. Ignore or mock, once. Anything more is giving them the attention they crave.
Lesson learned. I did gain a bunch of valuable insight. Confirmed some very sad truths too. Feminist explosion was some fun research.
I normally ignore annoying things like these women, but I kind of figured today was open season day.
I had a nice exchange with a BPD girl on Erudite Knight’s blog, and he pointed out the BPD girl was fishing for emotional responses. I sort of knew that, but kudos to him for putting it succinctly.
Is BPD on the rise, or is feminism liberating it?
My oh my but women are becoming more and more irritating.
BPD is definitely on the rise in women. Oh the stories I could tell you but not here.
I don’t think BPD can be created, at least not in adults.
I think whoring – attention and otherwise – amplifies it, because stable relationships help dampen the BPD mood swings. Feminist and whoring behavior steers women away from satisfying, secure relationships. Thus BPD is exacerbated. It becomes stronger, and the culture of entitlement makes it more visible.
What is BPD?
open a new tab and Google it
Borderline Personality Disorder. It’s a catch all excuse for crazy, out of control behaviour usually exhibited by women and definitely some men. A psych doctor diagnosed me with it and I laughed my head off stating, “sounds like most people on the planet”. It should be called “I can’t control my emotions disorder” or “I have BPD, that’s why I act like a complete d!ck disorder”. Really, it is one great excuse for women and men to behave badly.
Oh borderline personally disorder. Well it is most commonly caused by childhood trauma but can be inherited genetically. It does actually have characteristic traits besides bad behavior but most people are flippantly diagnosed with it for lack of actual regard for the patients recovery. It can be helped with therapy and often declines later in life. But for the most part people are given the diagnoses and then excused from the responsibility of taking account for their actions. However as with any mental illness the person should still be held accountable for seeking treatment if in fact he or she is suffering symptoms which cause a lack of self control and negative dynamics with the people around them.
Wrong!
Some of the new guys need to see the bat shit crazy with their own eyes.
There is a lot to be learned in the last couple of days… especially for the rookies.
Now if this is going on next week… then that is a different matter.
Mmmm i dunno, we see bat shit crazy on the streets all the time, its nice to have a male space here on RoK
Who the fuck is we? You do and I do, but the new guys might not see it… or recognize it?
In fairness, I don’t know if we have learned sufficiently from the past to not let the pendulum swing too far… I hope we collectively learned something…about ignorance of gender equality. Just to be clear, I don’t believe in gender equality but in gender fairness. I don’t see males as my equal, they are crawling at my feet every single day. But, what I believe in is fairness and respect…and we as a culture have no excuse for ignorance or unfairness.
I believe that the root of male difficulty comes from other males…in fact, many males in leading positions are willing to give Us more than We ask for. For the same reason they will not stand up for their gender…the white knight syndrome… And they face other difficulties from masculine habits where deviating from tradition and the status quo are deemed heresy. I wonder about our responsibility in all of this….We are very happy to be favored by laws, regulations, rules, etc. This is what I mean when I talk of a collective ‘power trip’.
We need males, they are the beasts of burden…the backbone of this civilization. I can’t envision a day when many of Us embrace mining, construction, fisherman and lumberjack jobs. These will still be male dominated jobs and our young matriarchal civilization will rely on them. Maybe this role will help to rehabilitate masculinity and help males to find their place in this new era of Female dominance.
Haha. Bitches and their delusions of grandeur…
There will never be a matriarchal modern civilization, because women just don’t have it in them. I mean when the capitalist patriarchs who puppet mastered women’s rights into feminism are done having their way with women as they pimp you, increase your debt and destabilize your familial support… more of future America will resemble those oh so empowered urban centers know as ghettos, rather than a garden of eden ruled by some fictitious goddess.
See that occasional bone that the patriarchs throw womyn hides what really is going on with women. Or maybe it’s obvious and womyn are just too stupid to realize what is actually going on. Hmmm. Flip a coin.
Either way I laugh when I hear media reports like 60% of college grads are women…. because behind the self congratulatory bullshit are the hard facts. Which is that you’ll be waiting tables, or checking in hotel guests just like the other majority female service workers who have a bachelors in female debt. Oh the irony that society’s beasts of burden out earn you by 30% with just a HS diploma and are free of debt.
See you at the finish line and don’t forget to bring lube.
All these silly nightmare scenarios you and your friends paint are based on not even inference or conjecture…but just hope. Is it not pathetic that you, as a collective group, appear to be yearning for a substantial overall decline in civilization just to punish your Superiors? Rather than improve yourselves, you seek to retard the progress of those who left you in the dust decades ago. Well, there must be great truth to the saying that “misery loves company”. The plain, irrefutable truth is that the gap between the genders should continue to expand over the passage of time…so much so, that the metaphorical collar your kind complain so much about has the very real possibility of transforming into stainless steel in the near future…
I’ve been thinking about what you said in regards to not recognizing it, and I think you’re right. There are so many crazies everywhere now (maybe always?) younger men might take their actions as normal. Which would be a terrible fate.
love the mock and ignore method. Their responses are always hilarity delivered directly to my inbox.
Yes, no one likes a person that craves attention, which is why Matt received death threats :((((( – if he wasn’t seeking attention, he’d have published an article, and he’d have been careful to avoid making any inflammatory remarks so as not to receive the attention that forced him into hiding barely 24 hours later.
Actually, I think Trevor from GTA V has the best response to them:
Awesome. If only Western men would collectively say that, instead of behaving as geldings. It would solve a lot of problems.
There are manginas lurking in the commentary sections, building up violent verbal arguments trying to conjure up ways to try & discourage the MGTOW. There are a few of them here right now. I shatter to think if they can just keep their fucking mouths (keyboards) closed if they don’t have a solid argument.
No worries. You can smell it off of them. Once revealed due to their low testosterone, they can barely argue theirr way out of a paper bag. Plus they can’t help but refer to your use of your genitals in some way, shape or form. Maybe they just miss when they were called men.
No one deserves to be ridiculed man or woman. That’s just mean and being an asshat.
Leave the Bible out of this. Men like you are only interested in it because you like to take it out of context to try to justify the oppression of women. You’re too stupid to actually study the historical and cultural themes of that time period.
God is eternal. His word is eternal.
I think the New Testament’s instructions to men and women are pretty clear. Hard to take it out of context. Maybe the Bible just advocates patriarchy?
nobody has certain places in society, regardless of gender. you can’t just tell people their place in society that’s just plain rude. i am fully supportive of men being allowed to express their feelings openly and have more custody rights with their children, i want recognition for male rape by women to be known and people more educated about women physically abusing their husbands but this whole website goes about this the wrong way, i hope i never meet any of you in real life unless you learn to grow up.
You lost your credibility once you said “read the Bible”
Ever heard of Richard Dawkins? I’d think that a site that uses peer reviewed studies wouldn’t believe in flying angels and talking snakes – referencing it as a legitimate source of morality :-/
Richard Dawkins.
The Bible states that a man should love his wife as Christ loves the Church and Jesus hung out with women a lot. We are your equals. However wives are to submit to their husbands and show them respect. Not clawing all over them like psychotic cats gone rabbid. No one could deal with that and women themselves sure wouldn’t. But men don’t have to be domineering in this lesson to teach women. They can stand firmly by their beliefs but also treat women with respect and should a female choose to continue with negative behavior then she should have her beloved attention taken away from her and ignored.
You guys are the teachers. Women won’t learn by rude comments but by positive reinforcement and the removal of such in negative behavior. You don’t have to strike out. Quite the contrary all you really have to do is withdraw.
I know I probably shouldn’t be responding to any of this because I’m a woman and am not welcome here…but I am also not a feminist. I would just like to say how sorry I am that the men on this website have been pushed so far as to believe that there’s no women out there suited to be their equal. I have a boyfriend and were high school sweethearts. We’ve been together for five years and its not always easy because yes, men and women are different. But we have a partnership and mutual understanding of how we want our lives to be and luckily we want the same things. I actually agree with a lot of what you say and I’ve read a lot of other articles on this site and agree with a lot of that too. Society raises young girls to be this way its not really all instinct or what have you. And I will admit that sometimes I can nag or be a bit moody or bitchy. But I work and I take responsibility for my actions. Obviously most of you might read this and think that I’m living in some sort of fantasy but my boyfriend and I love and support each other equally because were both just people who found each other and learned to live together not two parts of one group or another. I hope some of you men find some woman out there who can make you happy whether its because she does your housework for you and knows her place…or you truly care about each other because its really not that far fetched to be happy with another person even if you don’t think they’re perfect. Or maybe you don’t need anyone to be happy. I don’t think I’m any better or worse than anyone and I don’t play games maybe that’s why I can be happy with a man and not be totally discusted by some of the things being said here. Everyone’s completely entitled to their own opinions so promise no bashing here just speaking my mind and moving on. Best of luck.
Uh equality does not exist in nature most especially between the sexes.
Lol i swear ill jus say this n then ill leave u males alone in ur venting page. I think it is sooooo Cute n adorable that males have a place or outlet to whine n be overly dramatic. Like cosmo but yall should call it mens monthly haha get it?like mensturation 😀 see were not the only ones allowed to be hormonal once a month. Yall go boys!!! show the world that yall can be as bitter n scorned as the next gal. Spew your he man woman haters club ya little rascals, its seriously the most precious thing ive seen since…. LIttle rascals lmao. Im lovin it.
Fuck you, Who are you to say what women can look at or even tell them what to do
Sorry, Hun, but we aren’t going anywhere (and you should be happy, otherwise you’d have a whole other type of problems). Besides, there are
My “place” is wherever the hell I damn well please. Ohh! Look at me in your interwebz! You can dissuade women from being a part of your embarrassing bitchfest/pity party but unfortunately for all of you primitive and negative dbags you can’t live without us. Nor can you continue to control us.
The fact that this is also a dating tip site is not only ironic but pathetic.
You sad excuses for humans might as well enjoy your little tree house – girls have cooties club because women become more powerful every day.
Good luck getting any real joy out of life, I’ll just be over here not giving a shit if you delete this or say I don’t belong or whatever lame excuse you have to evade the truth any more than you already have.
You put it on the internet, it went viral, this is what you get. And our place? Sorry dear it’s not the 1800’s, we have no need for corsets that take away our breath as we wait for Rhett Butler or Mr Darcy to come sweep us away. We built the bombs that helped stop WWII, and the planes that those fearless men flew. We have more then proven we are more then just weak, cattle.
If you hate the western world so much, leave. No one is stopping you, no one is forcing you to marry, or date a western women. But as long as you want to complain about us, we will defend our selves. And you can censor all you like, but all that shows is what scared little boys you really are.
Well, you seem like one of the more level-headed commenters, particularly among the females that stop by, so I’ll a couple of thoughts, and I promise they’re not incendiary. This comment section has been forgotten, so this’ll end up being just between the two of us. That is, assuming you’re tracking responses …
Obviously, a lot of the stuff you read on RoK is nutty and offensive. There’s a lot of wailing and gnashing of teeth. If you don’t take it personally, though, there is a hell of a lot to be learned. Some of the guys that post and comment are really very smart, and worth listening to.
So to start with: Maybe women liked wearing corsets while they waited for Rhett Butler. Maybe women, and men, liked having clearly defined roles. To get back to a time of truly clearly defined roles, though, you have to go back before the industrial age. When most people lived on farms – say what you will, at least their jobs were clear. Both men and women had clear roles and both worked difficult jobs. They didn’t intrude into each other’s spaces because they were so busy with their own. The jobs fit well with both sexes’ natural inclinations. Men hunt, women gather.
When you move past the Industrial Age, most of the jobs that people had to do have disappeared, and most of the new jobs can reasonably be done by either gender. The genders seem to have their preferences, but there’s quite a bit of overlap. I don’t like taking care of kids, but I’ve done it just fine; however, I have lingering discontent that this isn’t what I’m best at. Similarly, the career women I date often say their careers aren’t all that satisfying for them.
Humans are designed for certain general functions. Intellectually, most anyone can do most any job; Rosie the Riveter built bombs, as you say, but walked away from the factory jobs after the war and never went back.
The problem is, with individual rights, you obviously can’t revert to an Agricultural Age society. So what are the consequences? Two things: One is that men took a long time to wake up to feminists’ “revolt in paradise”. Yes, women weren’t allowed to vote, but they didn’t have to go fight in wars, either. Women on farms worked their butts off, but the men were outside in the dirt and animals, getting injured and hot and dying young. Again, you can’t go back, and individual rights precludes doing so, but the corset wearing belles were pretty happy with how they looked. In a manner of speaking, feminism bit off more than it can chew, and men are scolding them for taking such a big bite. Men tend to suffer in silence, and only now are they speaking up.
The second problem is that this transition to what is a largely androgynous society is unpleasant for men, as well. Men are longing for fulfillment of their gender imperative just as are women. What you are hearing in the harsh comments about western women is a longing for the fulfillment of an earlier time.
In all the noise here on RoK, you correctly observed there are no solutions being offered. The best anyone is proposing is to go to ever more remote corners of the globe to find women unexposed to the you-can-have-it-all dogma that breeds so much anxiety and dissatisfaction. This isn’t addressing the root cause, and having explored this for the last year or so, I’m convinced there is no solution. I’d love to think there is a behavioral model that will address both male and female imperatives, but I’m getting really pessimistic. This is hard for me, as I have children of my own (congratulations on yours, by the way), but I’m continuing to explore and listen. So my unsolicited advice to you is: Try to be sympathetic to the angst these men are expressing, and try to understand it. I know better than to go on Jezebel and argue, but sometimes I read the articles, listening for the deeper messages.
Well, I hope you enjoyed my soft rant; sometimes when people say things in a certain way it triggers my thinking, and that’s what your first paragraph did. Later.
Nice job. Sorry about your dad, but glad you aren’t just sitting around whining about it, but instead are proactively working to fix the issue for others in future. That’s what men do.
Cheers.
I think that even as a child we may feel some kind of sexual attraction for women(adults), which makes me think that male children also have libido, but not as active as in puberty… So as long as girls don’t look like women, we would probably see them just with curiosity, and fantasy, not much more.
But anyway, women are impossible to envy because:
– Modern world has made of their lives,empty of essence, their entire lives are a distraction. They can have everything, and it is not enough.
Motherhood is shit now. femininity is dying, Her sexuality is degradation.
– They do not see the details we see, they do not feel as much as we do.
– They lack the capacity to give a strong meaning to things
For example, philosophy, logic, moral, sex, beauty, science, abstract thoughts, etc
– Women are self-centered, and any creature that focus on itself cannot focus on the joy of everything else. Sad, because we as men did always share and show things to women, with the hope to find in them true empathy and connection.
Which is impossible due to our, extreme differences.
– Women lifes are very superficial, the attention they get is a distraction, their bodies is a curse because they can’t develop their minds, Men are the opposite, our bodies are all about functionality, we just need workout, no need for depilation, sexual poses, dressing like prostitutes, makeup, diets, and what not to make of ourselves false creatures. no, we are far more honest.
– scientific discoveries, that favors men, so many nowadays.
The word superior has a negative connotation in society, as if it were discrimination, as if being dominant and mentally and physically more capable should makes us feel bad about ourselves.
Well, not anymore. The male body is clearly superior, far more than I thought.
Sad for feminist, because the more they push equality the more science discover new things, that makes us even more different.
– Lacking self control, lacking logic, etc
– and so many other things like intelligence, testosterone, physical strength, a far more powerful sexuality , autonomy, creativity, etc.
(For women reading this site, must be so painful)
I know it’s clearly stated that women and homosexuals are not welcome not welcome on this site, however, as a woman, I could not help but agree with you. By objectively observing my gender, I have, many a time, come to the same conclusions listed above. It’s simply the truth. That’s all.
I have two daughters. They are both stellar high school students and they view many of their female peers with contempt. Both work very hard and are revolted by the idea of selling their femininity and sexuality. I must have done something right, because they are intuitively understanding to keep away from those traps.
Yes, contempt is the overwhelming feeling I struggle with too. If your daughters are indeed as you described, then you did raise them well. A lady is rare commodity these days.
Here are some interesting aspects to their upbringing, in light of their “ladylike” behavior (and I definitely would not call one of them ladylike, though she is dignified):
It’s an atheistic household, although I will happily go to church with my ostensibly Catholic daughter.
It’s an open minded household regarding sexuality issues. That is, homosexuality is not condemned.
It’s a strongly libertarian household.
I taught them very little in the way of a moral code. I never said they can’t have sex; instead, I educated them on the intricate consequences of sex.
I curse almost continuously. Yet they curse less than any of their peers. It’s purely by their choice.
I’m very open and factual about typical issues like drugs, alcohol, and sex. No discussion topic is off limits.
Our boundaries are very clear. It’s rare for the kids to see me in my underwear. I don’t think they have ever seen me naked. I don’t want to subject them to my sexuality, and I would never invade theirs.
I think the single most important thing I taught my daughters was that – actually, it’s a pair of ideas, but they are connected as one – was that flaunting or selling their sexuality, in any way, is part of a long spectrum the end of which is prostitution; and that flaunting and selling their sexuality erodes their ability to sustain a pair bond.
I wonder if it is a coincidence that they are dignified and they are being raised without their mother. Maybe strong father figures do go a long way to steer girls away from the whore-trap.
This is all stuff I have been trying to understand better, so thanks for reading.
“Our boundaries are very clear. It’s rare for the kids to see me in my
underwear. I don’t think they have ever seen me naked. I don’t want to
subject them to my sexuality, and I would never invade theirs.”
So you just taught them bodies are “sexuality”? One of the many things I’ve always despised in American culture… that concept doesn’t exist in my Country.
I’m a women too and I agree with you R_R. You cannot have a debate with most women. They immediately take it personal. I find women from war-torn countries or struggling ones have a much more realistic view of the world. Women in the first world are just… wow.
The guys on this site think they have it rough.
Try being a woman and trying to debate logically with other women. They will literally turn up your nose and pick you apart. You will be shunned and crushed for daring to suggest the remote possibility that they don’t know what they’re talking about.
One time a female co-worker of mine stated, “If women ruled the world, there wouldn’t be any problems.”
The coffee mug shook in my hand as I attempted not to burst out laughing. I told my mother what she said and my mother (who was the victim of female bulling) and she recoiled in horror at the thought. She shuddered and called that idea the “stuff of nightmares”.
She said, “It’d be world war III in a week if women ruled”.
I replied, “A week? More like an hour.”
South America, some women rulling… still no war over there. Everywhere else where men rule? War all the time, war right now. The most peaceful places are the places with the highest equality between the genders and the highest count of women in power. Women should rule WITH men, not only by themselves, though. That would be a disaster just like (or a little bit smaller than) when men rule by themselves.
I’m not sure you’ve been watching the news. Argentina is about to default again. Brazil had massive protests recently and there is a simmering undercurrent of violent discontent. But I don’t blame individual female leaders for that.
My comment was if women totally had control over all government industries. It’d be a catastrophe. Some women leaders are quite capable. But I think the average women is incapable of competent leadership. Too many of the incompetent ones are busy destroying the competent ones.
The average man is not a competent leader either. But here’s the difference: the average man will rally around the more competent and follow them. It’s good for survival. Follow the guy who seems to know what he’s doing.
Women don’t look at survival in those terms. Not most of them. It’s follow the leader of the men and make him HER mate. And if she has to walk over women to do it, so be it. Her authority over the others will come through him.
The average woman will refuse to accept that she’s a terrible leader and incapable of wise judgement. She’ll see the women that are better than her and use all her powers to tear them to pieces. And thus after their reputations are ruined, there will be no competent females to make her feel bad about her own foolishness. And no competition for the most desirable male.
Just look at what feminists have done to Yahoo’s female CEO. They keep attacking her and writing all sorts of hate articles.
I don’t believe the ones in Brazil and Argentina are, but pickled throughout history are some incredible and very competent female leaders.
I’d call them the exceptions. They were not destroyed by their female counterparts and managed to rise through female BS. An amazing feat.
I’ve had female bosses. Most were disasters. But the ones that weren’t, were wonderful. My best boss ( we’ll call her D) to this day was a woman. She was so great that the people who worked under her chose lower pay and avoided promotions just to have her as their boss. There was one man who could’ve taken a much higher paying job with superior benefits but told me flat out he refused because he wanted HER as his boss. She was that good. Moral under leadership was sky-high and everyone loved being there. I loved working with her.
She was amazing. And what do you know? The boss above her (a woman) got jealous and made up a BS excuse to have D removed from the head of the department.
What stupid B (as I’ll call her) didn’t realize is what a disastrous decision she made giving in to her own pettiness. Soon her higher ups learned that D had been fired and were outraged. The whole department fell apart as their best people left in droves in protest. (Many were working their way under their pay-grade. The men in the office absolutely respected her and were dead loyal to D in a way men generally aren’t to female bosses. If D had been a general leading them into battle not one man would’ve questioned her leadership and would’ve followed her with a salute.)
I was gone too by then. And D… well the moment private companies heard she was available for hire, they fought to give her a higher position with superior pay. She had three high-paying job offers within two weeks of being dismissed. They knew her talent. Jobs were she was being put in charge of whole divisions and departments in companies. These were men who wanted her to be their boss. Who wouldn’t? She was that good.
And last I heard B, petty and stupid, was having to explain how she’d just wrecked the entire department for no good reason. She begged D to come back and got a polite, “Hell no” from D.
But that’s just how women roll.
And btw, did you seriously just like your OWN comment?
At least log out and like it as a “guest”. I mean liking your own comment is just… creepy.
Yes to all of the above^. I wasn’t going to comment anymore, but I agree with so much of what you said. Though I wouldn’t waste my time arguing with people who lack the basic ability to reason. Wait, “lack” is not the right word– more like, reject the ability reason. When emotions take precedence over facts and logic, reality becomes subjective and truth ceases to exist. Given the way I think, what often happens in a group of women is that I feel very much mentally alone.
As for the second part of your comment: The whole women’s empowerment/feminist movement is simply an attempt to one-up men, because really they feel inadequate as women. I don’t see the so-called oppressive patriarchy they speak of. In reality, the U.S. is fast becoming a matriarchal society full of angry, entitled women. I believe the force that drives the Feminist movement is envy. Like a woman on your job who secretly envies you, but can’t admit it to herself, so she tries to justify her hatred by questioning your character. I think deep down they know that men are inherently superior in ways a woman can never be, for all the reasons Homine stated above. I leave you with the definition of envy:
-“Envy is an emotion which “occurs when a person lacks another’s superior quality, achievement, or possession and either desires it or wishes that the other lacked it.”
I don’t think I’d say men have “superior” qualities. I think men and women both have the same inherent abilities. They just go about using it in vastly different ways.
Your average man is just as incompetent as your average women. But he’ll generally fall in line behind the leadership of the more competent. Thus the alpha male will emerge and the others will follow.
Women don’t work like that. All those average, clueless women when they see a “competent” woman rally together to destroy her utterly. If they can drive her to suicide, they’ll take secret joy in it but act like they’re so sad about it.
Female societies have no use for “competent women” those women are threats to obtaining the Alpha male. So they dispose of those women and thus clear the way to the dominant man.
But modern society has changed the game. However, most of that change has been driven my inventions from men. Women have not adapted and are still playing by the old rules and remain frustrated at the breakdown of their grip over men and women.
They’d rather destroy the whole society then let a single competent woman emerge and succeed where they could not.
I saw firsthand why there are so few good women scientists and engineers. Just go to a graduate thesis seminar and you’ll see it.
The scientists (men and women) will not hold back if you have a terrible thesis and terrible results. But female graduate students will be crushed and take the criticism as against them and give up on the field.
Male graduate students will generally take it as “I screwed up this experiment but..” It’s a bad project. It doesn’t mean they are bad. They compartmentalize the criticism and remove it from their person. Women do not.
Most of female undergrads saw what happened to female graduate students and immediately changed majors. One of my peers even told me flat out after what we witnesses that she didn’t want to be in a field where she’d be criticized.
I wonder what field she finally ended up in… law? government?
In the engineering department, the female students you meet there are generally just there to find an aspiring male engineer to marry. They don’t actually want to be engineers, they just want to find a husband to bring in a good paycheck.
And feminists ignore all this and say it’s the patriarchy that keeps women out of the sciences.
I say, “BS”. It’s women that choose to keep themselves out of the sciences because they find “criticism” scary.
@homine
Men who did not prove themselves capable was ruthlessly culled. So we men are descended on the whole from badasses that took down mammoths and overcame the elements.
Women are also descended on the same males.
Women, and females in general in all nature, don’t have to prove a thing as females are valuable by nature. That is why females of all species, it doesn’t matter how ill or defected they are, still get to copulate and choose from the youngest, strongest, most beautiful and fit males (females choose by visual clues, males do no discriminate in any way)… while most males don’t even get to impregnate any female. And that is how it SHOULD BE.
Men screwed the natural course thousand of years ago when forcing monogamy on women, something that is NOT natural for humans (and even when natural for many species, the females still get to screw other males outside, as sperm from young, fit and strong males are the ONLY valuable sperm and the only sperm that results in desirable offspring) as most men, just like most males of all species, aren’t worth passing on their genes. Most men, as most males, aren’t even worth experiencing sex, unless when it comes to sex with other males, something males of most species do freely and all the time.
Perhaps the distracting attention is what is preventing women from being truly great. The thirsty males providing the attention are the constructs of social/Cultural Marxist engineering too. Vanity was considered a sin previously, but hey looky, it’s the best trait in the world now. I wonder why that is, and why people are so immersed in it that they can’t perceive it.
“They do not see the details we see, they do not feel as much as we do.”
Sooo deeeep, almost homo. 😉
They do not feel as much hatred for the entire humanity as much as men have always demonstrated, you meant. As much urge to destroy, to start wars, to oppress, to rape and kill.
“Sad, because we as men did always share and show things to women, with the hope to find in them true empathy and connection.”
Men always shared their punches to their faces, you are right. Shared their thoughts that women should be properties that they can sell and buy (and men did this for a long time), that they can rape and kill freely. Shared their own daughters with other men so theory could rape them, and showed their one mothers that they mean nothing and should be throw in the wild when older so her son would take the house for herself.
“Women lifes are very superficial, the attention they get is a distraction, their bodies is a curse because they can’t develop their minds, Men are the opposite, our bodies are all about functionality, we just need workout, no need for depilation, sexual poses, dressing like prostitutes, makeup, diets, and what not to make of ourselves false creatures. no, we are far more honest.”
LMAO! Women’s minds are even faster than men’s come on. Both bodies are different but fir for their own purposes. And no woman have any “need” for depilation, “sexual poses”, dressing (or even clothes for that matter, that is a human creation), make-up, etc. Shaving is all about culture, idiot. Many men also shave or trim their beards, but he way. of course, you ugly, uncivilized American males won’t even trim your armpits, but that doesn’t mean women have to. In many cultures men shave their whole bodies, of the past and the present. And I doubt you don’t prefer a woman who looks like a “fake” creature over the natural female human… so stop being a hypocrite. In the past, the one wearing make-up, wigs and heals would be YOU, ignorant American (pleonasm).
“Lacking self control, lacking logic, etc.
– and so many other things like intelligence, testosterone, physical strength, a far more powerful sexuality , autonomy, creativity, etc.”
Men make up for the biggest percentage of criminals. No self-control there. I guess you can’t even describe what logic means. Women have as much or more intelligence, sexual drive, creativity and are finally able to have independence, something men didn’t allow women for long as they wanted to keep this fake “superior” facade for longer, so weak they are.
“(For women reading this site, must be so painful)”
I don’t know. For that to hurt they must see it as truth. But women know themselves way enough to see you guys are just the regular full of shit American males that aren’t worth a fart. You guys can only speak and hope anyone else will believe what you say, but you never PROVE anything… so logical of you guys.
The only thing that is painful is how pathetic American males are. Totally crazy, whining, weak animals.
For men that hate women so much you all sure do like to fuck em. Men you think you know what its like to be women that its all coddling and pampering well your wrong and part of the reason women are psycho bitches is because we know there are dick smokers like yall waiting around the corner to charm us out of our ham wallet and then bail. Man is the leader, if you act like a respectable and loving leader women will supply you with the respect and submission you so wantonly crave.
“Women and homosexuals are discouraged from commenting here.”
Women are only good for their vaginas. They know this and that is why they focus on their careers because they know that no man wants to commit to them anymore.
Well men are only good for their money because they mostly suck at everything else. :/ except my husband a few close guy friends because they are crucial to mercing ass in my clan on Call of Duty.
“Well men are only good for their money”
So you admit that all women gold diggers that are incapable of an actually genuine relationship with the opposite sex. Thanks for proving us right.*slow clapping*
“All women are only good for their vaginas” . . . ergo “men are only good for their money” I have supported 2 men in my life that I loved…… So what does that mean?
I mean come on let’s face it it’s come down to women are bitchy psychos in y’all eyes but y’all want something to fuck. Men are basic and mean in our eyes but we need to know that while we at home raising kids and keeping the household together there’s gonna be food on the table. You don’t like them and they don’t like you. But we all need each other so why not be nice about it?
Ham wallet
Gut locker
It wasn’t an insult cunt. It’s a funny term I’ve never heard. You are on edge.
I didn’t say anything dick except another funny term which is gut locker. Where did I ever say it was an insult?
Got too emotional over there, silly boy.
Or maybe you are too stupid to know what gut locker means.
I dont crave submission, I just dont want to pay for the whore lol.
Then listen to women and pretend u give a shit and they put out for free.
What I meant was I dont like paying for your dinner, not that I dont want to pay for a prostitute. Almost all women want men to pay for them.
That is why I look for slutty women only.
Why shouldn’t a man pay for a lady’s dinner? Notice I said a classy lady not a trashy basic BITCH.
Well that is where the entire problem starts. If you wonder why men call women whores, it is not because they sleep around but because they sleep with men who are obliged to pay for them.
Frog.
It’s an instinctual mechanism. Just like women are valued for their ability to reproduce… Men are valued for their ability to provide. Women just take it too far often Times and get greedy. But why would a woman want to give her body which has a chance of being impregnated to a man who has no means of providing for the possible outcome. You can’t expect women to not think about that because most Times at the mention of a baby men book it and she is left with all the responsibility.
Child support is mandatory. Also you can use condoms or birth control. Your argument is dumb. This is the reason men hate women.
Yes but as I said… INSTINCTUAL. Meaning it’s an inborne nature. Just like it’s an inborne nature for a man to find a woman who is attractive and can bear children. That’s what the whole mating thing is about. Children happen on accident as well even with the use of birth control. Face it. You all just hate women because you have been rejected by them or hurt by them. Which is sad because the women of today really are a bunch of worthless cunts who don’t act accordingly with their gender or their calling but hey like I tell everybody else… Move to the deep south. You will find an independent woman there who knows how to cook and treat a man.
I was not hurt by them nor do I think they are ‘worthless’. I just have trouble connecting emotionally, I do not find them attractive past their looks. I don’t need a woman who can cook, I can cook myself, I even took classes.
Understandable. There are a few cool chicks out there though that don’t act like catty jealous attention seeking children. But I get what you mean. That’s why I don’t have any friends. I don’t really like girls either.
You look like a frog.
You look like a dildo….
My picture is not in my avatar, so no, I do not look like a dildo.
You look like a frog.
Your personality looks like a dildo. That’s even worse.
You judge people’s personality based on whether they pander to you or not, what does that say about your personality?
(Frog)
You keep replying to a frog…
You look like a whale.
Oh yeah these fins are hawt.
Articles like this make me feel so glad to be a man. The man is the agent, the fire of ambition and crucible of creation. The sun, the radiating force that enriches and lights all around it. I love to explore esoteric and theological understandings of masculinity.
The greatest innovators and industrialists were all men.
And will continue to be.
No, women are taking up much of it more and more every day.
Wake up and open your eyes.
Just like the greatest rapists and serial killers
Masculinity is associated with father sky. Notice that the storm clouds of the sky pour forth rain and lightning which waters and fertilizes the earth.
http://science.howstuffworks.com/nitrogen-fixation-info.htm
I have a friend who got from omega to fucking 18yo hot girls (he’s 32) but who still got angered over her shit tests. I said to him that wanting women to change their nature is like wanting gravity to pull upwards.
This article has great and timeless wisdom
I can understand his anger. It’s bloody annoying to have what is effectively a child playing silly-bugger games with you. If it was another man pulling that shit, you’d simply put a fist through his face – which is why no man does it. He has the sense to know what’ll happen.
In future these silly little girls might get the same reaction though. There is a lot of anger-pressure building up, not gonna be pretty when something goes pop.
American males, full of self control, feelings of warmth and honor. Never cowardice to go against someone smaller than them.
Has anybody told you that you make no fucking sense.
Yes, I was even “more omega” than him, can understand too. But, the anger is not the right atittude, but learning game.
I really never got these shit tests myself and I’m twice your friend’s age.
Tehn you probably are an alpha so confident that the women never felt the need to test you. This still don’t change their nature.
Tell him to live a year with a girl with BPD and he will never be bothered by a shit test again.
However, having gotten to that point, part of the reason I am finding it hard to do Game is because I can’t stomach stooping to their level. It’s kind of hard to put the effort into Game when you view women as annoyances with vaginas.
There’s levels and levels of how much or hard girls will shit-test. I had a 5 month LTR and got shit tested perhaps two times. But OTH, my girl had a lower SMV than my friends.
So, you have to pick your poison, a 5 who will almost never shit test you or an 8 who will test you all the time.
Men are so fucking narrow minded and simple they wouldn’t know a good woman if she stood right in front of him. Nor would he acknowledge it, therefore he does not deserve it and so my sympathy for the manipulated by women is nonexistent.
“Women and homosexuals are discouraged from commenting here.”
Oh yeah I forgot. My dumb female brain couldn’t remember something so simple because I have been laying around all day looking fabulous and thinking about how much I would love to suck dick. All these babies hanging out of me really gets my brain all dumb and junk.
You couldn’t remember because your hamster is taking up most of your working memory.
But I’m a frog. . . so how is their room for a hamster?
Yeah right
I don’t see what’s your point posting here. Do you really believe that all men think this way and that whats expressed in ROK is how all males think? People all have different opinions and I’m sure you’ll disagree fervently to many of them. There are also many folks that agree with you. Find them engage them and have friendly conversations. There’s no need to express hate, just steer clear.
It just bothers me. Makes me question all men in my life now. I don’t know if they all think like this but I have been treated hatefully by many in my lifetime and have spent a lot of time proving myself strong and worthy of respect because of that. And you know what? They hate women even more when women earn the respect deserved them. It’s like wr spend our lives serving men and catering to them only to be hated and despised for being inferior beings….
It’s past your bedtime kid go to bed. Children should be seen and not heard.
If you truly believe that you will make a shitty father
Bringing into the world a child and raising it properly is where women excel. Men cannot compete well there.
Thanks to feminist discontent, women are stuck in the mental mindset of trying to compete against men in an arena where they cannot compete well.
It is both sad and amusing when I see a woman touting something that will make other women more productive. Men are supposed to be the interchangeable cogs in the machine of civilization.
Only someone with a warped view of the world would want to become just another cog in the machine when she has a far more relaxing and happy option. Only someone with a really warped view of the world would want the same fate for other women (I know, frenemies).
My divorce lawyer was a woman who saved me from crazy. Her use proved to be greater than any devil vagina magic she may have.
I will admit to the same. Though I had to make it clear to all the (female) lawyers involved and my ex: Scorched Earth was an option that I would have no problems exercising.
There are clearly many a woman who proves these stereotypes to be true, but in all reality, many other women have made great contributions to society. I have to admit, lumping the crazies with the honest-to-goodness amazing women is pretty disrespectful to the decent examples. I predict that this comment will attract a lot of criticism from the men here with extreme opinions.
There are crazies in both sexes. And both feminism and ROK like to point them out and use them as their poster child.
Meant to be satire, but sound advice none the less for women:
HAHAHAHAHA. THIS IS RICH. Ohhh my god. A whole group of gross, old losers for me to laugh at all at once! You think you could overpower ANY woman just because you’re male? KEEP DREAMING. I’d like to see a single one of you fight a woman…. you probably can’t even look a woman in the eyes! Hahaha.
This website is a (poorly encoded) cesspool full of forever-virgins. Enjoy angrily jacking off in your moms basement, dreaming of sexual conquests that you’ll NEVER HAVE.
http://www.troll.me/images/dawson-crying/this-is-so-deep.jpg
Thanks to how easily you modern women spread your legs, I think the most hideous omega males are losing their v card around 15 through pity or luck. Male virginity is thing of the past thanks to universal whoredom.
Level 99 virign alert!
Sounds bad ass.
Well boys are to blame too. They wouldn’t be spreading it, if nobody wanted it!
Wow victimhood is thick on both sides of this battle.
Being a white knight makes you despised by men and women (despite what they tell you).
Drop the act.
Since when do I care what random men/women think of me?
I call out hypocrisy on both ends.
You sound like a cat woman living in a mini van under a bridge.
”Women, of course, will never understand their inferiority any more
than a child can understand his. You cannot argue with a child. Instead,
you must discipline to build good behavior, and in time, that good
behavior will turn into a worldview. The same is true with women. Women
are inherently terrible people, and you can’t correct their bad behavior
with words alone. No, you must tame the shrew using positive and
negative reinforcement.”
Women are bad and being men and men are bad at being women. Because of sexual dimorphism expecting the same from them as men is untenable.
Women are inferior to the masculine standards of men. So what? So are men according
to feminine metrics are inferior as well.
Females have no standards and can change their opinion based on what they can get out of something. I disagree about them being children though. You can reason with a child and even a young female. It seems that the female as she ages seems to get even worse and more entitled.
I’m not a feminists but you guys make me want to be! If you guys hate feminist so much watch the way you talk and treat women you guys are the ones creating them.
lolz
You have it backwards, they are the ones that created us. They are the larger group and been at if for a while.
Of course you say I have it backwards. Men can do no wrong in your guys eyes. Don’t you see that you are just as bad as feminists are? Women hate men like you guys and men hate feminists. Simple as that.
Stop being what you hate.
I don’t hate anyone, I simply disagree. Hate takes too much effort. I have certain ideals and the only time i get annoyed is when other people’s belief’s affect my life.
You know what I mean…and a lot of men on here do hate feminists
Yeah, don’t you want to be hated by us? Why are you even here? You post provocative comments to trigger our hate. You know exactly what you’re doing. Best thing is you’re not even a feminist.
Yes I do want to be hated by you because you deserve it. Why can’t you say that I had a point?
If you point is that we shouldn’t hate, I agree. With that said, you should still fight for what you believe in.
I know what you mean.
I never thought about feminism or anything…but with this brewing beneath us, I may have to rethink my position.
I don’t want to have my rights revoked, mostly my right to vote and right to attend higher education.
Whether you call it feminism or femaleism you are all the same and think the same.Feminism is just a virulent form of femaleism.
And btw, females have been attending colleges since the 1800’s as have the female members of my family, long before they got the right to vote.The problem with you spoiled females though is that you’re always comparing yourselves to the top men even when you’re just some bank clerk yourselves.In 1900 in the US most people of both sexes just attended a grammar school and only the wealthier went on to Uni.Ordinary females always compare themselves to the wealthy men.You’ll hear females complain about there being no men around because they don’t even notice the men doing all of the jobs unless he’s a wealthy man. Big sense of entitlement.
There was no need for females to vote anyway since the business the politicians performed applied to men.And just remember that men who were the only ones who could vote Gave you the right to vote. Big mistake in my opinion.It was at a time when females would just vote as their fathers or husbands did so it didn’t matter. But today with so many unwed mothers around it is suicide because they’ll just vote for the man who promises them stuff and who has become a substitute daddy or husband for.
http://cwp.library.ucla.edu/articles/WL.html
IN THE 17TH, 18TH, AND 19TH CENTURIES MOST WOMEN DID NOT HAVE ACCESS TO HIGHER LEARNING AND LABORATORIES.
Im going to go way out on a limb and suggest that in the 17th, 18th and 19th centuries most men did not have access to these things either.
Trust me that’ll never happen this is the 1% of men that think like this. They’ve all I’m sure been treated bad my some woman or never had a mother.
“Women suck complete shit at objective reasoning.”
Oh really, even the ones with this MBTI personality type (like me)?
http://www.personalitypage.com/INTP.html
“A truly strong and empowered person has no need to convince himself of it.”
Then what is the purpose of this site?
To inform men, who are asleep.
To bring them to the real world.
I think this is more of a social class issue.
This was recently in popular media ” Untouchable Iranian Kids Flaunt Riches On Social Media” These iranian kids (parents are leaders) were both boys and girls, the girls were not wearing headdresses and were drinking etc.
I’d guess this site comprises mainly of middle-class men who work shitty jobs for shitty pay.
And they are using women as a scapegoat.
I can tell you as someone from a wealthy family these are not issues I have ever encountered. But I can see if someone was middle-class they’d be pissed off at the world.
“escape goat”
Hehe, the amusing bloopers of people who try to use words they’re not actually familiar with.
Are you inbred?
I made a spelling error. It happens. I bet you are perfect, right?
Better escape on your escape goat before you make another one.
Haha, I know it was a good one.
I’ll admit, it looked odd but I went with it.
Nick, nice red herring right there. Is that deep-fried?
On a more serious note, Anglo Western WF feminism started from Victorian England, so much to the point even Jack the Ripper emerged from the same time period.
A truly strong and empowered person has no need to convince himself of it > exactly. this is somehow lost on so many people.
While I’m simultaneously having good laughs at the comments section of this topic, when I read the part…
“To hold women to the same standard as men is the greatest discrimination”
Really!? Sounds like white knighting to me, to the point even the
Church of England is on its way into ordaining Gwenhwyfar into a SAINT!
And she cheated!
Add Chrissie Hynde to that list of musicians.
Bonnie Raitt is also top notch as an instrumentalist, while hynde, not so much. Same with Kim Deal, not actually a great musician, they are both singers. Instruments require discipline, a tolerance of pain, and focused practice, these requirements prevent the vast majority of women from developing any real sense of ability in this regard. Sure some chics, can strum chords or riff power chords alright, but it’s the rare exception that can really play. Nancy Wilson plays mean fingerstyle, but there was a man in the band who did all of the lead work. Still, Nancy was incredible at what she did. Other notables, Michael Jackson’s guitarist, Gabriella from Rodrigo y Gabriella, and…. a third isn’t coming to me that quickly, sorry
I really enjoyed this. Thanks for the laugh! I especially loved the parts about how it’s a privilege for it to be socially acceptable for women to stay home (I mean, you want her there anyway, no? Otherwise, what’s the point in getting married and knocking her up?), and how women working in childcare can take children of the opposite sex to the toilet (and, don’t forget, change their diapers!) without any blowback. I’m pretty sure most of the guys here would cut off their dicks with a rusty butter knife before they would be caught dead in such emasculating employment. 😉
I’ve thought the same things and wondered if I was being cynical or just an ass. It’s satisfying to see that others have reached identical conclusions.
Well said, sir.
you guys are a minority. my boyfriend and i both work and share the burden of domestic life. we love each other, our jobs and our lives. my boyfriend is an entrepreneur and i am a lawyer. someday we’ll have a kid and share the time and energy it takes to raise the kid. it’s great to have a good life and be happy. try it. maybe start with therapy to find out why you’re scapegoating women. most men don’t have the twisted perspective you do. good luck.
Gosh, thanks.
Wow, you’re an exception. I guess we need to reevaluate everything!
well, my point is that i am not an exception, and neither is my boyfriend. the people writing these articles, and those of you that agree with them are exceptions.
Women don’t understand sarcasm, lol.
Someday you’ll have a kid? Like in ten years when you finish paying off your law debts? Because by then you’ll likely be too old to have any. Might as well keep working and enjoy your high-paying law money.
Also, how does a lawyer use so much bad grammar?
Hey,
Did you make all those other dicks you sucked share the burden of domestic life….. or did they get their dicks sucked for free.
Ain’t love grand…
Someday, you will try to have a kid, and fail, and be told you need in vitro because you are so old. Then that will fail too, all because you had to have a career and that was more important to the women of this country than childrearing. We aren’t scapegoating you, we are holding you accountable. Something you probably aren’t used to, having beta orbiters hand you everything.
Im just here to laugh at the stupid comments that these skanks “Cough Cough” women say.
Fantastic!!!! Perfect!
Follow up the latest viral article that has attracted a whole bunch of new readers with one that basically sums up how ALL men feel about ALL women.
Welcome to Return of Kings ladies. Enjoy your stay. Just don’t comment because we don’t care what you have to say (“small penis”, “lives with parents, “can’t get laid”, etc etc; we’ve seen it all before).
And the dumbest thing chicks say, “I’m not like that!!!”
Don’t speak for all men, American idiot.
You have to be out of your fucking minds. Are American men this degenerate and lousy that they have lost respect for every human female? Are you so disgusting that if your own mother was being raped in front of you that you would laugh and tell her that it’s her own fault? Dear God I hope no one in my bloodline has the misfortune of thinking to go on a date with any of you. You disgust me and this is why nobody likes America.
Meanwhile, in the Islamic state, you’d all be raped or dead. And four male eyewitnesses to confirm that you’ve been raped. No one likes America because we let leftists run their mouths.
Exactly. All these femi retards and white knight faggots are screaming about oppression towards women in western societies but not a single squeak is heard about real violence and misogyny in places like Pakistan, Afghanistan and the lovely Islamic State. I’ll say it loud and clear. Western feminists and their supporters are nothing but hypocrites and cowards who only attack their own men and country who give them all the freedom and privileges they could ever want. I spit on them and everything they stand for!
Western feminists DO talk about female oppression in the places mentioned. It’s just that is difficult to do anything for them, female, male or children, without destroying the ruling forces before.
They just don’t do anything about it. Norman Borlaug, a man, saved millions from starvation in those countries. Women have never done anything. In this country, all they care about is pretty lies and alpha fux, beta bux.
Something that you are okay with and believe is the actual “natural state” of humanity, I bet?
I can totally see every one of you masturbating to real rape scenes and actually going out raping any woman and girl out there if that wasn’t a crime anymore.
I’m glad you assume that I am a supporter of the Islamic state while making a mental picture of rape masturbation. Very well then.
That’s not how men argue … they assess facts and logic to construct a stable and applicable world view to act upon in the world.
You deliberately use anecdotes to prove a point. You are a woman or a feminine man.
American men are seeing as the biggest asshole of the first world all over the globe, indeed.
Actually they are seen as the biggest white knights and most feminine men in the world, thanks to American feminism.
I give most people the chance to prove themselves. Most men fail in ten minutes. The vast majority of women fail in less than 2.
“Women are terrible at historical criticism, philosophy, or anything that involves value judgments, and they generally seem uninterested in it unless it directly affects them.”
“Women don’t study divorce, custody, criminal defense, or anything that is morally vague or subject to interpretation.”
Agreed. Women are absolutely terrible at making value judgments or analyzing anything that is morally vague or subject to interpretation EXEPT when it relates to their own behavior. When it involves them they will always find a way to justify their actions.
When it involves someone else, they’ll make subjective snap judgments based on some completely arbitrary “values,” or “honor systems.” which almost always are the beliefs of someone else, never truly their own.
Earlier today saw a post on FB with a pic where a guy was standing with his baby in arms while a girl was sitted in the reserved spot. Justification: He must have told her no. He was about to get to his destiny. SHE IS PREGNANT. These bitches imagination enthrills me.
Anecdotal stories trump overwhelming evidence too, don’cha know. ‘argue to person, not the issue’ is the best insight in this article
The only thing that appalls me more than this article is how many men are agreeing to what it’s saying. Do ANY of you have women in your lives that you care about? Because to me it sounds like you’re all losers living in your mother’s basement that are too senseless and bitter to find someone who would like your company. Although, if you say any of these things to a girl you’re trying to sleep with, you’re never going to get any.
Many of the men you live with believe the same things these guys are saying but are afraid to admit. For real, wake up American women: American men are rotten, uncivilized individuals who just hate women, wanted them to have no rights once again, see you as inferior and wanted that rape wouldn’t be a crime anymore.
Yes I do, and they agree with me. Probably because they aren’t sluts.
This Dude Rocks!!!! may he fuck a thousand skanks,,, and love and marry a virgin…
That would make a great motto… in latin.
I’m pretty sure fucking a thousand skanks would make one contract treatment-resistant gonorrhea.
Now that I have took over your comment page and pissed all you wonderful men off my job here is done. Thank you for entertaining me all day although there were a few of you that have a sense of humor and thought I was funny 🙂 peace out he man woman hater club!
“My job here is done” So the sandwiches are ready? :p
Lol get your fat ass on a diet and stop craving sandwiches..
I can get as fat as I want and my universe would be the same, not yours, sadly.
I wouldn’t know because I would never let myself get fat.
I thought your job was done here? lolz
Lol I know I gotta stop!
yes you do.
Hey. Shut up! Now I’m not going to.
Please say that to all women, will you? Nobody likes a whale, it’s mere evolution.
LOL that’s messed up anyway I’m preeeetty sure there are more fat guys then girls…makes more sense.
Women fall in love through their ears. Men, through their eyes. Wanna change that? Ok, it’s going to take some millions of years.
Ok no one wants a butt ugly fat slob I don’t care what you’re sayin to my ear! Lol
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Men value beauty and women power, that’s not subject to discussion. Men can procure a position and power in society all along his life -that’ll make him atractive. Women do not. When they reach 25 their looks start to fade, their prime goes away and what do we have left? A women who is no longer ideal for reproduction and without any other feature that will make them attractive if she’s american. That’s mere evolution and genes working.
How come with all their liberation and prerrogatives they still haven’t found out this yet? Instead of being feminine, sweet and easy going women so men would fight wars for them, they have embraced the opposite: they have become the more masculine they can be.
Humanity as we know does not work with the roles women are portraying. Again, it’s mere evolution on the ground. Men have developt the way the have due to a long catalog of challenges presented to them throughout history. Women has been a main stimuli here and now that is changing. Although, it’ll take some millions of years to change the genes wiring on this (sorry posmo feminism).
I agree the more I think about it, men with resources are forced to provide for a spouse for her entire life!
Marrying her at 25 … why? You missed the best 7 years.
If not for sites like this, I too would be arranging marital vows right now.
And here we find why unicorns are so rare. It isn’t the virginity. Or the pleasantness. Or the willingness to work hard. Or th beauty. Or the smarts. Plenty of women have all that. But show me a woman who can debat rationally and I’ll show you a psychopath that is in all likelyhood an aggressive lesbian.
“Show me something contrary to my worldview and I’ll show you a crybaby who plugs his ears and shouts ad hominem things.”
I’m just adding my personal observations. If anything, you should say i’m generalizing. The only ad hominem here is yours. Do yu wish to contribute something to the discussion?
I don’t know that there’s much of a conversation to be had, considering if I refute anything you say, I am a “psychopath that is in all likelyhood [sic] an aggressive lesbian.”
Literally, your first post stated that plenty of women can have good qualities, except the ability to hold a debate. You qualified that with the statement I’ve just quoted in the above paragraph. So basically, even if I were to engage you in a meaningful debate, you would probably just call me names and say smug things about women.
So I’ll tell you what, champ. If you can put your contention (that women can’t debate) in cogent syllogistic form, we’ll have an honest to god debate. We can even do it Lincoln-Douglas style if you want.
Right now you’re argument looks like: IF a woman can debate, THEN she is a psychopath and an aggressive lesbian. Just FYI, to get your started.
Your move.
Aaand he already lost lol.
So you’re proving you can engage in meaningful debate… by refusing to engage in a debate on the premise that I am not open to changing my point of view, an assumption you have made because my general belief has held true until now?
Also, if you want me to flesh out my argument for the slower members of the class (before you are bannd, as women aren’t allowed to post here), my point is also based on the RP concept of a “unicorn”: an idealized woman who meets all the biological needs of a man as well as his personal desires, who will stay moral and loyal throughout the relationship, until death do they part. My point was that the main difficulty in finding such a woman is that, once you’ve accounted for your biological basics (an attractive, intelligent, young virgin) and your prsonal preferences (interest in yor goals, feminine disposition and independence would rank highly for most men), you’ve got a pool of women that’s very small. Most women (and indeed all women I have had the pleasure of talking to, in person and online, across all of Europe) are not particularly skilled in independent conversation (an example is that when you bring up how most violent youth come from single-mother or broken homes, almost all women will defend single mothers, often based on what they might do in that situation, misfortune or someone they knew, rather than accept that many damaged children come from such households, therefore derailing the conversation and making it personal). Furthermore, as this trait of almost always seeing others in a good light or putting herself in another woman’s shoes is based on empathy, most women who do not display such projection will have low or no empathy. I know many sociopathic ad psychopathic women who are excellent in rational, impersonal debate because they do not feel at all for the individuals nd are happy to talk about a situation amorally. I have also noticed that, whilst not all lesbians debate rationally, a lot of women who debate rationally are lesbian or bisexual. This may be because people with low empathy are more sexually experimental or it may be because people with higher testosterone are both sexually experimental and not prone to emotionalizing every debate. Either way, there is a distnct pattern that women who debate well are often low empathy or not attracted to masculine men (or indeed to men at all).
Once you have applied the main criteria for a “unicorn”, which are mostly feminine, empathic traits, you have created a group that is more likely to be emotional, more likely to follow popular culture and less likely to be well-read. Within this group especially, the general trend of rational women possessing low empathy or being unattracted to men will hold true, therefore making it incredibly difficult (albeit not impossible) for a man to encounter one who isn’t already happily paired.
That should be enough to get you started. What are your points, without making it personal or about single cases, please. If we’re talking about an entire gender it would need to be based on general traits, observable in the real world.
I asked for a syllogism. I see no syllogisms, just a meandering wall of mostly anecdotal “evidence” and personal bias.
Okay, so, debate 101. If you find yourself putting “I” in a lot of your sentences, you are probably using anecdotal evidence! Some quick examples from your post here:
“…all women I have had the pleasure of talking to…”
“I know many sociopathic ad[sic] psychopathic women…”
“I have also noticed that…”
Just FYI. Anyway. So, you said:
“My point was that the main difficulty in finding such a woman is that, once you’ve accounted for your biological basics…and your prsonal [sic] preferences… you’ve got a pool of women that’s very small. Most women are not particularly skilled in independent conversation…”
THAT DOES NOT FOLLOW. A DOES NOT EQUAL B.
But okay, what’s your supporting premise?
“(an example is that when you bring up how most violent youth come from single-mother or broken homes, almost all women will defend single mothers, often based on what they might do in that situation, misfortune or someone they knew, rather than accept that many damaged children come from such households, therefore derailing the conversation and making it personal)”
CITATION NEEDED. This is a red herring. So, because you allegedly have conversed with some women who’ve apparently defended single mothers, most women are poor debaters. Okay.
You go on to say:
“I have also noticed that, whilst not all lesbians debate rationally, a lot of women who debate rationally are lesbian or bisexual. This may be because people with low empathy are more sexually experimental or it may be because people with higher testosterone are both sexually experimental and not prone to emotionalizing every debate.”
So we must assume that a quality debater needs to have low empathy. We must assume that sexual experimentation is necessarily an indication of a lack of empathy. We must assume that lesbians and bisexuals are more experimental, and therefor have low empathy, and as such are better debaters…? Sorry, it gets a bit convoluted.
But none of that works well as a supporting contention or your basic premise, which is that most women that a given man finds attractive(~unicorns~) will not be good debaters. We have to assume too many things are true, and you haven’t given any credible evidence as to WHY we should assume that.
You said:
“Furthermore, as this trait of almost always seeing others in a good light or putting herself in another woman’s shoes is based on empathy, most women who do not display such projection will have low or no empathy. I know many sociopathic ad psychopathic women who are excellent in rational, impersonal debate because they do not feel at all for the individuals nd are happy to talk about a situation amorally.”
So what I gather from this is that “unicorns” will probably be of the high-empathy variety, since psychopaths/sociopaths/lesbians/bisexuals are probably not often unicorns. Right? So you’ve already moved the goalposts. You’ve decided that someone you’re attracted to will likely be empathetic, and also that empathy prevents someone from debating well.
Why is empathy necessarily a hindrance in debate? Seriously. I’m curious why you think this. Sure, it could prevent someone from looking at a situation “objectively” (hint: no human is objective). It could also give someone the means to argue a position they personally did not agree with, since they could put themselves in the shoes of someone who DID agree with that position.
My contention is: whether or not someone is good at debate depends on upbringing, education, class, neurological health, and access to current scholarly literature. I’d guess that, all of those things being equal, gender/attractiveness would play an insignificant part in someone’s debate acuity.
Interesting. I present my base structure and all you do is take it personally, complain about my introduction, complain about the lack of references when I am discussing personal observation. You also have failed to piece my argument together although it follows perfectly, and apparently had difficulty comparing the simple information of what a unicorn is with the traits of empaths and nonempaths (two concepts you need to have a solid grasp of in order to so much as understand my argument) and seemed to have some difficulty even reading the final premise, which actually does the work and pieces it together for you. Yet your own introduction consists of an equally unreferenced single [paragraph, that is based purely off theory and makes the assumption that all else would be equal, that gender and attractiveness generally have no relationship with the other factors mentioned.
Would you care to actually introduce your argument rather than nitpick? We’re not discussing my debate style, after all, rather what number of women would fall into the “unicorn” category and also be capable of rational debate.
We can discuss your… analytical skills and poor reading comprehension some other time, OK?
So men are all hardwired for sex and war, and women are hardwired to be conniving shrews on the hunt for a man to be infantalized by. There have been no exceptions to this ever. Every single human exists every day in one of those two modes of being.
As a woman typing this, I don’t even know what I’m saying right now! Lol! Because the rational part of my brain was replaced by ads for Gucci products, you see. Anything cogent I might say is just an accident, like monkeys and keyboards!
Just like all men are sex-crazed and, frankly, potential rapists. You have no purpose except to inject your phallus into any ol’ wet, tight, warm place, and shoot your DNA-laden load of mucus into it. Every great thing man has ever accomplished is simply a means to facilitate this mucosal deposit. You don’t much care if the body you impregnate is willing, or if it’s struggling and screaming–as long at she’s old enough to breed, right?
Because, like fruit flies, we exist only to reproduce, and so our brain function is limited to those behaviors which lead to quick, productive sex. Right? RIGHT?
Or, maybe, there are innumerable factors which dictate the nature of each individual human. Maybe it’s a willful handicap to harp endlessly on gender dichotomy. When you look at me and see only a woman–conniving, submissive by nature, child-like–you are giving yourself bad data. You are making yourself willfully ignorant.
Stop thinking of men and women as these distinct and monolithic things. Obviously gender dimorphism exists. Obviously there are verifiable differences the in brain of an average male and the brain of an average female. But humans come in such a broad spectrum of minds and bodies that it’s fairly useless to assume much based on the simple distinction of male/female.
Of course, if you insist on acting like we’re all barely-sentient baby machines, there is a silent multitude of cunning, rational, and attractive women out there who make great sport of humiliating you when you harass us at bars and on the street.
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Yeah. We’re all individuals…. except when bitches find it convenient for whomever not to be. Then it’s “men this”, “men that” or in your case… I”m a stuck up cunt, so I’ll justify it by saying men harass me in bars.
Take your hypocritical bullshit somewhere else.
Oh man, isn’t it so sad when some random on the internet makes generalizations about your gender! Isn’t that just the meanest thing!
Look at you. You’re so infuriated you can’t have a rational conversation, with a WOMAN of all things, without resorting to generic insults.
I mean, just LOOK at you. You silly, frothing little thing. You ignore most of my post and respond directly to one little quip at the end–one that shouldn’t apply to most rational, in-control males.
You must be the type who harasses women and gets rejected a lot! I’m very sorry for you. You’re probably so undesirable as a person that even negative attention from a woman is better than nothing.
But hey, I’m stereotyping. You could be gay, too!
haha. Cunts and their silly narratives…
You came here because the tattoo article upset you. I’m here regularly. But whatever makes you feel better, cunt!
I came here because there’s a ton of easy meat to troll.
I mean, if I’m just a silly, vapid lady, how come you aren’t schooling me right now? Where’s that innate masculine know-how? Why are you unable to write a sound refutation of my nonsensical womanly ideas?
Calling me a ‘cunt’ over and over again makes you seem like someone’s old grandpa with Tourette’s Syndrome.
I’m sure you’ve trolled lots of meat since your pushing 30.
Oh, you don’t actually have anything to say. Boring. I’ll go play with someone else.
Well damn. That was easy.
I like how you went back to edit your comment after the fact.
“Heh I’m going to say she’s pushing 30. No wait. She’s pushing 30 AND isn’t married.”
These things are only insults to people who think like you, which is to say, people who don’t think much at all. I mean, I can only assume that you’ve replaced critical thought with inflexible social dogma.
Anyway I’ll just sit here, continuing to be a very attractive twenty-something in a long, committed relationship (with a sexy beta feminist male, no less), and you’ll just be some dude who’s wrong on the internet.
Say something interesting and I’ll come baaaack~ *winks at u*
Whining about edits? Seriously.
I like how you can’t look away long enough to suck off that LTR beta male you supposedly love so much. WTF?
Women really are shit.
I dare you to seriously refute any of my initial points. I dare you. You can’t, but I want you to try anyway.
And I dare you to go home and blow your beta boyfriend (whom you supposedly love soo much ) and afterwards take him out and buy him a drink. Then and only then will I refute your bullshit.
You seem really into other dudes getting blown.
Naw. You seem really into not sucking off your LT boyfriend that you supposedly love.
I’m not sure what you’re trying to say, sorry! Your point seems to be that, because I’m not actively giving my boyfriend fellatio 100% of the time (he’s at work so his supervisor might object to that), I don’t love him….? But if I give him a blowjob and buy him dinner and prove my love, you’ll have a real debate with me?
He’ll be so touched that you care about him so much!
Yup. See you tomorrow. And remember to swallow and tip the bartender well.
Mr. Executive, I didn’t want to do this but…well…we’ve spent a lot of time together on here, and I’ve noticed a disturbing trend in your posts.
Are you…not smart?
Don’t debate…. fellate.
“So men are all hardwired for sex and war, and women are hardwired to be
conniving shrews on the hunt for a man to be infantalized by.”
You are correct in this sentence. Except men have been deconditioned from most of their hardwiring. We have been trained to solve conflicts peacefully. We have been trained to be monogamous through the institution of marriage. This has been positive for humanity until:
Women have been reconditioned. Through feminism, we now see women’s nature without social conditioning. Men are starting to realize this, and thus you see men reconditioning themselves towards their natural hardwiring: a multiple-partner, player lifestyle, as well as an increase in violence.
Well awesome, I look forward to a future of rape, pillaging, and general chaos as we fall to the battle of the sexes. Which, as we all know, male and female are not only biological distinctions, but also the only two personality types to exist!
I’ll let my boyfriend know he needs to go be promiscuous and violent.
Rape and pillaging are historical fiction or exceptions of war time.
Do your fucking research!
If your boyfriend isn’t violent, he must have low test.
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Why in the world would you look forward to that?
I’m looking forward to it. I’ve always wanted to use the strap-on I have in my closet. You all better run. Pray you don’t enjoy it;)
There is nothing wrong with violence. Don’t mistake what I’m saying with criminality.
The bourgeois (essentially a beta male) tells himself that violence is evil, yet he relies on the government to execute the very violence which keeps society together that he would have to engage in if in a tribal setting. Taxes, police, military, even public educaton are forms of violence.
We men have been conditioned to think strength and violence are evil …. thus we have given our power away to the feminist state and beta male white knights. Good men must use violence, otherwise the omegas, betas , and women will use it to destroy everything.
Patriarchy is unapologetic violence. I do not apologize for that.
A small group of elite men should run everything.
“A small group of elite men should run everything.”
They do. The problem is, they’re pussies.
They aren’t elite (in the genetic or spiritual sense), they are an oligarchy born to leisure.
I would consider them managers of a sysytem, not elites, in the positive sense of the word.
I’m not even sure who they are. They suck though.
Obama is one of them. The biggest case of affirmative action in the history of civilization.
Gender is binary. You are wrong. You can only be masculine or feminine. Genderqueer choose to be masculine and feminine at the same time. Otherkin people accept all gender norms, but fail to realise that men’s brains and women’s brains are wired differently, so they sit in the middle. Don’t listen to feminist propaganda that says that gender is a social construct, as men’s brains and women’s brains are wired differently and it has been proven by science. Also don’t listen to propaganda where they’ve invented at least 5 genders.
Dont worry my brothers in arms the salvation is near. With our technology tendencies there will a day when artificial wombs and female bio-robots will be created. Without these traits – holding sexual market and being able to produce babies, females will lose everything and males will be free from slavery.
What will grow in artificial wombs?
And do robots dream of electric sheep?
If only you can see what I’ve seen with your eyes.
Nice!
Then you can get back to what all men have wanted all along…..suckin’ each other’s dongs.
This article describes in detail what I have tried to get across to some resisting but well meaning commentators on this site. If you treat women as described in the article above you will keep that woman for as long as you like!
You will never get dumped because you are giving the woman what she wants. A woman wants a strong man who will organize her life, so that she can take care of the things she values (children, clean house, shopping, chatting with friends). ALL women want to submit to you, even the harpies that don’t need no man. It is in their hard wiring and their nature. I have had women of all kinds (professional women, feminist women, etc.) bow down to my authority because it is what they want! Sure, you will get occasional resistance but if you stand your ground they will submit. If they do not do so in a timely manner you simply dump them. And in this regard, you are doing the next man a favour as this woman realises a real man will not long tolerate her bullshit.
Never listen to a woman tell you what she wants. She doesn’t know. She simply repeats the bullshit she reads in Hello magazine. It is your job to recognize that you are Lord and Master and your word is law.
I am clapping 100 times for this.
“But with a subtle reward and punishment system, you can turn the any promiscuous harpy into a submissive virgin bride”
I disagree. Not only can’t you turn a whore into a virgin… why would you even want to wife up a former whore?
Most women aren’t worth the time or effort to “break”
You got that right.
Hi I’m a lady and I mess with people like you for fun. You’re very predictable and easy to manipulate, since you have such a rigid worldview, and any perceptive person can spot that from a million miles away
You are the guy all your friends make fun of. Not just the guys, but the women too. You’re the guy who walks around thinking he’s Don Draper from Madmen, but in reality you’re the butt of all the jokes (and probably a few complaints to HR at your job).
Or you’re a troll, trolling on a troll website, in which case: greetings, brother.
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These men are the ones who never made a woman cum, could never make a woman desire their bodies (usually ugly, extremely hairy and flabby) and are very weak individuals with some of the lowest self-esteems ever… so they lie to themselves about women wanting them and actually enjoying their “great personalities”… in a website full of macho complexed American dudes. Sad.
Is this you manipulating me right now?
No, that was me leaving you a comment on a website.
Try to keep up!
So Don Draper is the kind of man you think we should all emulate?
The absurdity is that most professional women ARE submitting, just not to their husbands. They are submitting to their professors, corporate overlords, and shareholders.
Welp, time to kill you all, I guess.
And men are not submitting?
Not as much. Most biz owners/entrepreneurs/CEOs are men
Yeah. And the wage slaves toiling in cubicles.. those are not submitting to anyone?
They certainly are. And those positions are the ones that feminists are fighting for.
All of that happened in your dreams, you only forgot to say this at the end of your sentence. Fixed for you. 😉
>> Sure, you will get occasional resistance but if you stand your ground they will submit.<<
What about those women that’d make you do what they want by covertly making you think that what they want is in your best interest?
If you really look at it, this writer is a lot more moderate than most of the other writers on this site. He actually said that there’s hope for the average American woman.
Nope, there’s not. Women are bloodthirsty and evil. We will suck all the life out of your sad, sorry soul. With pleasure.
Why are you acting like this?
Zora O’Siggins is an ‘exotic dancer’.
When she sees a male face she only sees a $100 bill.
Wow. Just wow.
One of the best articles, I have read on this site. Thank You.
FYI: This site is a troll site. It’s a honeypot to draw out the worst misogynists and the most over-reactive feminists. The authors may or may not believe what they’re writing. The real goal here is to get people all worked up, which in turn drives up page views, mentions on Facebook, and so on.
So, dudes who are posting here unironically…you’re basically the butt end of the joke. You’re the ones that Gawker and the Daily Dot are going to quote in their articles so that their audiences can laugh at you.
This site is a troll. I repeat, this site is only a troll.
Troll site? No, we men are quite serious.
Serious about your closeted homosexuality, no doubt.
guess again asshole, got my forein woman and you western slut trash are the ones who will have to settle for a lesbian on Valentine Day hanging 69 with your faces stuffed up each other’s fat smelly ass!
BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Fuck you!
no ur a poop head
Troll
So you realize that you’re part of what is elevating this website/viewpoint, right? Isn’t that the opposite of what you want?
Your actions and your words don’t match up.
Nah. There is a ton of internet that is having good fun laughing at this right now. I’m sure a bunch of the people posting vitriolic bullshit here are trolls just having good fun. It’s like the ultimate MMORPG.
There’s also a decent amount of the population reading this, that is /not/ laughing at it. They’re nodding their heads in agreement. So you’re influencing both sides. Sorry, but you can’t expect this stuff to ONLY reach a certain demographic. You’re simply not in control of that.
The days of the government/mass media controlling every single piece of information we receive are over. Whether you want to call sites like this misogynist, sexist, whatever, it’s here to stay. If you look at the Reddit Red Pill you can find another thriving discussion forum, as well as links to a dozen blogs.
Interesting, I didn’t know reddit had a red pill section. I’ll have to check some of those out. (I have to admit I’m not the most tech savvy person, so thank you)
I’ve made a bunch of other posts that cogently question the premises of recent articles and opininos on this site, so people can choose to disagree or agree as they like.
I hope sites like this are here to stay! They’re great fun. I’ve read a lot of really good discussion quoting and mocking Red Pill in particular, to say nothing of hilarious podcasts like the F Plus doing comedy readings of MRA hubs and dudes like Roosh V. You are truly content creators, and I salute you.
Yes, precisely. I’m just saying that you seem to be under the impression that the only recognition this site gets is “Oh my god, such disgusting viewpoints, NOBODY WOULD EVER AGREE WITH THIS!”
But that’s not the case. I’m just trying to point out that the very thing you think is defeating “the enemy” is giving them power and a much more vocal voice. For every person that speaks against this website with disgust, there will be a person who speaks about it with praise.
The fact that this site is blowing up right now is because it went viral in a negative way. But I don’t see these people as enemies. I see them as sport, and entertainment. They’re people shouting into the big, stupid collaborative project that’s called the internet, just like me, only they’re evidently taking it much more seriously.
We’re all pissing in the wind, but I suspect there is a silent majority of readers who will see the backlash in these comment sections and feel vindicated.
I don’t consider them enemies either, and I certainly do not consider ANY human to be only “sport or entertainment” That’s horrible, that’s sub-human. If you come across something you don’t like, immerse yourself in it, and cut away emotions. It’s a valuable learning experience. In fact, the most valuable lessons come from negative things, if you choose not to let them overpower you and seize your emotions.
“Everything that irritates us about others can lead us to an understanding of ourselves.”
Carl Jung
Apologies for pulling a quote on you, I’m feeling unwell.
I’m very familiar with the Red Pill mindset. I was a severe misogynist from like 18-22 years of age; I wanted to be sexually attractive while distancing myself from the behavior of other women as much as possible.
I found this attitude wasn’t compatible with my ideas about personal agency and autonomy though. If I think women are inferior, I’m more likely to treat them as inferiors, but that was hurtful to others and ultimately not productive.
Since then, I’ve started looking at other people as humans, not just their sex. Both men and women have enriched my life in a myriad of ways, but that only happened when I started treating them as individuals, and appreciating the unique viewpoint they had to offer based on their life experience.
This website purports to exist to help men better themselves, but with so many articles written to denigrate different types of women, I can’t imagine it’s having the intended effect. I mean, if your goal is to be a better person, why immerse yourself in literature that condones and encourages men to infantalize women at best, and treat us like meat at worst.
At the end of the day, I’m a person. I like Minecraft and writing and hiking and having drinks with friends and board games and exploration. My womanhood is pretty low on the list of things I think about frequently, but sites like this encourage men to see me as ONLY my sex, and treat me as such.
Not only is it rude, they’re harming their own objectivity by painting this portrait of women as this monolithic, unified entity, like every vagina-haver is the same.
“distancing myself from the behavior of other women as much as possible.”
Is this truly what you consider a misogynistic mindset? And isn’t viewing “them” or “these people” as “sport and entertainment” dehumanizing in and of itself? Isn’t that doing almost exactly, what you came here to speak against?
Glad you enjoy the site, and semi-pleased to hear that there are other podcasts doing comedy readings. The next step is mainstream media coverage.
Return of Kings isn’t the only red pill website. There’s Chateau Heartiste, Danger and Play, Christian McQueen, Reddit are the main ones. Not all are misogynistic.
There’s other red pill websites such as Chateau
Heartiste, Danger and Play, Christian McQueen, Reddit are the main ones.
Not all are misogynistic.
The Reddit section doesn’t hate on women.
Thank you for the resources! Very much appreciated 🙂 I’ve briefly had the chance to skim through Chateau Heartiste and the red pill section of reddit, but I’d like to find as much collective (and individual) insight and opinions as possible. I’ll be sure to check those out too! Thank you again 🙂
This was exactly my take, even when I was in college. There is no point in trying to please people, because they are fickle and they will eventually turn away from you. You are only responsible for yourself and your happiness. People are taught the only way they can find happiness is to have to sucker up to some “soulmate”. Without saying so, society wants men to think that women are these angelic beings who can do no wrong and who is perfect and righteous, and happiness is about worshiping them. We are being indoctrinated to become slaves without thinking. This is why logical laws are ignored, and illogical laws are being written and passed every day. There is no logic when it comes to women and their pedestals.
Women will always make the excuse of you being selfish to put you on the guilt-trip, which is what they do best, to manipulate you. In a blue-pill’s mind, when a girl mention that word, its sort of like a “trigger”. In their mind, they say “Oh my god! I don’t want to be selfish! OMG! OMG! Ok, I’ll take out my wallet hand hand her some money! I’m not selfish, I’m generous and kind!” By then, they’ve already lost respect, both for themselves, and the girl’s respect for the guy who she just guilt-tripped.
Also, for some reason, girls try to turn guys into blue-pill, especially if they’re not (shit-testing, etc.). Why do they want to turn you into something they despise? They know full well what the hell they’re doing, but they don’t really understand why. They may turn a guy who is alpha into a beta, but then they despise it. Why? That’s the result of their action, and yet, they don’t take responsibilities for doing it. A single guy who is successful and happy, she wants to hit him up and marry him, have kids, house, cars, whatever. Then after a while, she hates him. Why? He’s doing the things she wanted him to do. The guy basically provides and spoon-feeds everything to the girl, and yet he is hated.
And this is exactly why MGTOW exists. Thankfully, I’ve never gone through those stages, but seeing how many men get screwed, how many men are incarcerated because of child support, alimony, or for other bullshits, I’m more than happy to spoil myself instead, have plenty leftover, and I am free.
Today, girls start slutting up when they are 8-10 years old. Forget the laws about legal age in whatever country/state you’re in, we’re talking reality.
hmm are all you guys done with stroking each others penises? so sorry your lives are at all inconvenienced by the fact that other humans have moved beyond a grunt and a cave and you REALLY liked your cave i know, so go back there.. drag your bff that strokes you best and recede back in time when your ignorance was disguised by just your strength and leave the rest of the human race alone. im sorry that your mom and dad didn’t love you enough and that your past girlfriends realized that you were a wee little dick boy, that is not everyone else’s fault. but please do not delude yourself with horrid bible passages that you are correct in any of your hate mongering. just as anyone wants to warp any point on anything you can sway passages to mean anything you want
What is with you and sex?
You were raped weren’t you?
Surely not in the ass, as you were. That was a fun time, wasn’t it? Mmmm…indeed, it was.
Seriously? A rape joke? Doesn’t that contradict….nevermind. I’m not even gonna go past there. It will fall only on deaf ears.
It’s very common for women that whore themselves out to have unhealthy revenge fantasies. The good news it that it gets better once they quit the life.
Please, tell me this is a joke. Nobody actually thinks like this, surely..
Oh, but they do. I attribute it to the loss of their left testicles. To those with remaining left testicles, I would be more than happy to castrate you with a 2×4.
Super gay
Right? Some of you sure are.
gay
This has got to be the hilariously blunt thing I’ve ever read here
I hope all the leftist blogs throw a tantrum over it
This is hilarious. The world is laughing at your false sense of superiority. Go ahead, retaliate. I beg of you, reply with some snide comment. You’re only playing yourselves up to be more of a fool. Do you guys not understand that women like me come here to work you guys up? Your responses to our nonsense only proves that women are the superior breed. Bow before me, dumb sheep.
You’re telling us that 16,000 women came here to work US up? And OUR responses to nonsense prove that women are superior?
You’re playing opposites. 16,000 women came because they got their emotions worked up. Then they spewed the same rhetoric, qualifying themselves to us and indeed proving that the article struck a hidden insecurity.
I was on the fence about the article. The comment stream pushed me over.
I’m sorry to hear that. I can’t speak for the rest of the 16,000 women you speak of. To me, and a few others I know of, this site purely provides entertainment. I do not come here out of emotional response, as I am sure you are correct in saying that many do. However, I have reason to believe that many of these articles were also written out of an emotional response.
I must also add that, out of nearly every response I have seen here, yours is by far the most educated and reasonable. Your response does not dictate women as the superior breed, as everyone else’s does.
The majority of the responses come from females, and follow the same anecdotal format. Not sure why that indicates women as the superior breed. Females are also solely responsible for even spreading the article.
Gay
You would be correct in saying that the majority of the females commenting on this website do not demonstrate a superior breed. However, the males, apart from yourself, on this website don’t demonstrate that either. Their articles and comments lack reason, and are based entirely on ridiculous opinion or lack of positive experience.
This is a prime example of the illiterate, uneducated, and reason-lacking comments I speak of. Superior breed, my ass.
Gay
Thankyou Zora O’Siggins
Snide comment? Okay, how’s this:
You’re ugly. Your nose is too long, and you have creases in the side of your face. Most likely, you’re in your very late 20s and realizing that men aren’t paying you as much attention anymore. You compensate with a weird hairstyle, abstract tattoo, and low-cut top.
You are so hurt as if you got raped today. Sweet.
But honey, you need to realize that FemiSwinerism was much more powerful BEFORE 20-25 fucking years, than NOW.
Aren’t you afraid that in the intolerant 80s when KKK was still active, Feminism had more influence than NOW? 2014, 21 fucking century.
And this trend is increasing like a wild fire.
Cry lil bitch. Your days of comfort are slowly reaching their end.
lol
The whole feminist thing happened because women envied men, their power, money, freedom, assertiveness, size, strength and the fact that they had a dick. Envy turned to hate. We shouldn’t fall into the same trap. We’re two parts of a whole, let’s enjoy each other and ignore the haters. A world without women would be shitty and my type of woman would say that about men too.
For a bunch of MACHO MEN who hate feminism you sure do give us “femnazis” a pretty solid leg to stand on. I mean… if you really wanted to end feminism… but no, no, you couldn’t possibly be intelligent enough to be using reverse psychology, I refuse to believe it!!! The things I’ve read on this site seem to be completely devoid of logic or any other type of reasoning. This is like a site for your run-of-the-mill serial killer archetype. You know the ones with the attitude “all women are sluts, except for my mother, and my father told me otherwise,” or some form of erectile dysfunction.
You have an attractive face.
Your face is old, and your invalid opinion is out-dated. We can’t give you any leg to stand on. Feminism (white woman struggle) is slowly and very painfully dying.
On the internet, men can express their opinions freely, and because of the whole “anonymity” men can be brutally honest. And the honest opinion of most men (apolitical, young men) about FemiSwinerism is… well… as you said it “your run-of-the-mill serial killer archetype”. When i was a ordinary guy (not anti-feminist, not MGTOW), i still subconsciously thought that i would never help a feminist who is getting raped, that i will push a feminist over the edge if i could get a way with it. Zero compassion to feminist wimminz. And when with my friends were high, they also expressed similar thoughts. And this is bad for the feminism… because femiswinerism is here in the west, thanks to teh menz. The young generation of men is “hostile” to you. And by “hostile” i mean “run-of-the-mill serial killer archetype”. We are the powerful gender, if men wake the fuck up, femiswinerism will simply get destroyed.
Feminism will not survive in the coming 20-30 years. It will either die or simply change it’s definition. Aside from teh menz, colored women right activists also oppose you, (white) Femiswines.
Clearly you and “the menz” you hang out with are psychologically damaged. They make pills for that. You need them.
And that’s what you women do to young boys when they act like boys. You drug them. You are a cancerous, terrible human being.
Your opinion is not changing anything deary. But keep preaching, as all girls you just WANT to get raped and ravaged, but in the same time you preach against rape… there is no pills to fix that, there is a right action to fix it. By getting rae…p..
If you by a chance decide to come in south eastern Europe (The Balkan region, where the real men reside), call me. I will fix you up.
Clearly you and “the menz” you hang out with are psychologically damaged. They make pills for that. You need them.
‘Women get so much it’s not faiiirrrr!’
‘I want the world to know what a strong man I am yet I still want the government to give me moooree so I don’t have to do it myself!’
Pussies! Weak little boys
I have to admit that this article is well written. But, why would a man envy a woman or a woman envy a man? Why would us as human beings envy anything about the opposite sex? There are upsides to being a man and or woman as well as the downsides. I don’t preach equality, because men and woman aren’t equals in retrospect. We may be equals in the workplace ( depending on where you work) or simply as having a few beers with a group of friends. Honestly, it’s as far as it goes. It is true that men built this country, but women gave birth to those men and raised them to be successful. But, it’s the 21st century, we have more single parents(men and women alike) who work their asses off to provide a good life for their children. We have parents who both work because it’s not enough to survive of one sole income anymore. Then we have the women who choose to stay home to take care of their children and their husbands make enough money to support them both in every aspect. Then,
Of course you have dead beat mothers and farthers who would rather party all night, do drugs, leave their children with complete strangers, and are in out jail and their children end up in the system. And every great once in a while those children will get adopted by a family that will love and cherish them.
And, true men are hard wired for sex, but so are women we’re more about an emotional connection and once in a great while men want that too. I do believe not all men are emotionally disconnected. And, it’s very true that every woman goes through the dating an douche stage, some just stay there because it’s what they feel they deserve. (I won’t say asshole because all men can be assholes, but not all men are douchbags.) Men are just as guilty dating skanks, who cheat on them multiple times and treat them like shit. ( I don’t say bitch because all women can be bitches.)
Us as human beings tend to settle ad stay in toxic relationships because we feel we can’t do any better. I for one refuse to believe that. Men and women are different, we think differently, feel things differently, have different views and opinions. Men can do things a woman simply cannot do and women can do things a man simply cannot do. Therefore, we are not and never will be truly equals when comes down to simple facts.
All the comments on this site remind me of this… http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2643262/Inside-world-woman-haters-The-terrifyingly-misogynistic-websites-fuelled-rage-virgin-killer-poisons-spreading-Britain.html If men want women to submit to them learn to act like real leaders.
That article is a giant ad hominem fallacy written by a self-described feminist. It is not objective journalism, it’s propaganda. Sure, on these websites you’ll find real misogynists, trolls, etc, just as you’ll find the same characters on Jezebel, but no one will call them out, and they’re not taken seriously. Here our trolls are taken to represent us all because feminists like Linda Kelsey are terrified that we would question the feminist narrative.
The fact is, these websites (known as the manosphere) are the future. Our numbers grow everyday simply because the arguments we make are valid, and make sense to men. If you’re raised in a world that teaches you you’re a victim and men are inherently violent and evil rapists, then the content here will not make sense to you, and you’ll only feel the frustration of cognitive dissonance. This is a website for men, by men, that cover men’s topics. As you’re a woman who is not welcome here, the door is that way ——–> [X]
The article I linked to was indeed written by a female but nonetheless the comments he was reported to have left on sites in the “manosphere” remind me of a lot of the comments on this site. That is my only point. I didn’t criticize the article or your right to post them I just wanted to raise awareness and hopefully prevent some men from going so far down the women-hating path that something as terrible as killing or harming a woman appears as a viable option. Innocent enough.. I didn’t hunt down this site to start an argument, the article was shared on my Facebook and I found certain comments disturbing so I posted. As there isn’t a gender scanning system in place I assume I can comment freely. 😛
“Law school attracts the absolute worst in humanity. Weak, cowardly men and cutthroat, entitled women.”
Completely true, men who study law are pathetic losers.
men on this website parade as ‘masculine’ because they don’t respect women. this website isnt for masculine men it’s for pathetic sexist men who are living in the wrong century
Isn’t it great when women are the ones being trashed? Men are trashed so much and widely in mainstream television you don’t even acknowledge it anymore, it is just part of life. When you see it happening to you, you are disturbed and angry, wondering what made those “horrible” men so vile.
The thing is, even if that is true, even if a group of men are “pathetic” sexists that doesn’t mean that they are not masculine. Being that doesn’t make the group any more or any less that.
Why are the guys still responding to women on here?
If anything, their childlike outbursts are quite cute and amusing. But not amusing enough to reward them with more attention.
1 Wives, in the same way be submissive to your husbands so that, if any of them do not believe the word, they may be won over without words by the behavior of their wives,
2 when they see the purity and reverence of your lives.
3 Your beauty should not come from outward adornment, such as braided hair and the wearing of gold jewelry and fine clothes.
4 Instead, it should be that of your inner self, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is of great worth in God’s sight.
5 For this is the way the holy women of the past who put their hope in God used to make themselves beautiful
Ha more bitching about women….. this site is hilarious! All the Man power over women crap is very amusing and the comments make me laugh like crazy! so I thought I’d thank all of you for the free entertainment
It’s ok that you have to try to hide your own insecurities by playing it off, its natural for most women to be delusional and unstable..
I’m neither….I know what Iv been reading and I know it makes me laugh! not so much at the articles themselves but at how pissed both men and women get over the dumbest shit….it’s amusing to me! You can say it’s because I’m a women…..but no it’s just funny
Yet, you had to comment twice for the attention?
We’ve seen your kinds before…we call them attention whores.
Well if that’s the case thanks for giving me what I need 🙂 I’m truly enjoying this I could never talk to my man like this I’d be beat …so I’ll just enjoy getting you men fired up! Attention whore it is!!
Oh we know. We discuss women like you on here all of the time. It’s just too damn funny to hear women trying to disprove it. Women love this kind of attention (especially from guys like us). We don’t care, we’re raw and we tell it like it is (here and in real life). I do, at least.
Nothing wrong with that!
The words of the oppressed white woman in the U.S.. It’s hilarious to hear their story and how they are still “struggling”, today.
The only struggle today is against other women.
I couldn’t agree more. Just a bunch of over-the-top boys who can’t handle rejection wallowing in the most entertaining self-pity in the form of misogyny!
You know what’s going to be funnier? When the next depression comes, and you worthless scumbags are viewed the same way flapper girls were in the thirties. Waste of life.
Yo guys, let’s not get banned talking to immature women. You wouldn’t respond to an 8 year old’s insults, would you?
“Women, of course, will never understand their inferiority any more than a child can understand his. You cannot argue with a child. Instead, you must discipline to build good behavior, and in time, that good behavior will turn into a worldview. ”
This is so true. It brought a tear to me eye that other men understand and accept this. When we give up our inherited authority, the world loses.
I understand the author has good intentions, but I can’t really agree with what he wrote here. I won’t lie, I’m a man and I envy women. If given the option to become a women, I’d instantly take it. For the simple fact that it is so much easier to be a woman in today’s society than it is to be a man.
I get that some exceptionally-gifted men will be able to rise to heights that no woman can even dream of, but if you’re a man and you’re born without the physical, mental and/or emotional tools to fulfill the role society expects out of you, you’re pretty much screwed.
There’s a reason nobody gives a crap about misfit men: we have nothing to offer and society can keep on going just fine without us. By contrast, a woman, no matter how utterly useless and inept she is, still has at least her womb to use as a bargaining chip, so society will try to coddle her.
Son, you want to snap out of that self-pity before I smack you upside the head for your own good.
You don’t want to be a woman. They’re insecure, irrational, unhappy, and they hit the wall at 32, then spend the rest of their lives regretting it.
You won the genetic lottery being born a man. Live up to it.
Live up what? I’m ugly, alone and miserable, I have no way to get myself out of this situation, and nobody gives a shit. If I had a kooch, society would be bending over backwards to accomodate me, but since I don’t, I’m just a another useless surplus male worthy of nothing but contempt. And I supposedly “won the genetic lottery”? Gtfo.
Learn game, bang some girls, and improve your life.
Or, cry like a little bitch about it.
Your choice.
Youre actually a female, envious of men, like they all are.
Let’s think rationally about what you just said for a minute. If I was a female, why would I be envious of males? Tell me, what do we supposedly have that you think makes us so enviable?
Youre a female posing as a male on here.
You don’t even know, do you?
Youre a female posing as a male on here..
Answer the question. What do we have that supposedly that makes us so enviable? Can you tell me what it is? Do you even know?
Bollocks. I’m a woman and perfectly happy. I would probably have been happy as a man too as I’m pretty chilled out and confident and have never bought into this crap that says your genitals determined how you have to behave and think.
Thanks for your concern though but I can reassure you that I’m not even slightly ‘insecure’.
Cheer up!
you’ll never meet a woman who would rather be a man
Actually I have, but she was big into women’s lib and shit, so you know.
Feminists who believe in male privilegel
Y’all would probably find more women willing to have sex with you if you didn’t visibly hate them
While this article is obviously mysoginist, let’s face facts here: simply showing women you appreciate them won’t get you anywhere either if you lack the qualities they really desire.
It’s also kind of weird, in my opinion, to expect someone to like you for showing basic appreciation. Im not saying you hold these views, mind you. Think about it — if some not-so-cute girl came and was being really nice to you, it doesn’t make you want to have sex with her anymore. So why, when a man is the not-so-cute girl in that situation, should they expect a woman to want them?
If you replace the word “sex” with the word “date”, then yes, that makes sense. I’ll be honest, I’d fuck pretty much any woman so long as she wasn’t painful to look at. Beggars cannot be choosers, after all. Dating though, that’s a different story.
Look, I think the problem here is that the whole dating game demands so much more out of men than it does out of women. A lot of men just aren’t mentally equipped to deal with it. Plus there’s the fact that women constantly lie about what they’re attracted to. The say they like nice guys, but they really don’t. They say they like guys with a sense of humour, but they really could care less. It kinda adds insult to injury, you know?
Of course — that is however putting your personal actions into a larger hypothetical. I just don’t think sexual attraction is based on whether or not a woman feels appreciated
Looking at women as one big “group” as in “what women want” really just ignores individual variance. I imagine as men are viewed as multifaceted and individualized humans with their own agency, women should be too .. “women” don’t want a certain thing, different women want different things
Dude, honestly, I’ve kinda had it up to here with that “not all women are the same” argument. Yeah, not all men like sex either, but that doesn’t change the fact the overwhelming majority of them do. Exceptions make the norm, they don’t invalidate it.
If a nice guy wants to sit around and wait for a girl who actually likes nice guys to show up, that’s his choice. But chances are he’ll end up waiting for the rest of his natural life. Kinda like a woman who chooses to wait for a man who isn’t interested in sex. You have about as much chance of running into people like these as you do of finding oil in your backyard.
Women as a majority like sex too — the flaw in your logic is that you’re equating nice with sexually attractive. I guarantee you almost all women like someone who is “nice” but equating nice with “i want to have sex with him” is where the whole AFC/nice guy dichotomy stops being her problem and starts being your own.
You wouldn’t fuck a girl because she’s nice, so what about you is making women hot? That’s my issue with the MRA/pickup dudes that think they are owed something. She’s an independent human with agency just like you, and its not her fault she doesn’t find a certain guy sexually attractive just because he is nice
I don’t think women are obligated to give men sex anymore than men are obligated to finance women’s lifestyles. Yet there are some circumstances under which men are forced to do the latter, and none under which women are forced to do the former.
No, I wouldn’t date a girl just because she’s nice (I feel that’s a better analogy. Like I said before, I’d fuck pretty much anything with a vagina at this point), the difference is I’ll would openly and shamelessly admit to that; simply being nice isn’t enough for a girl to hold my interest in a long-term romantic relationship, girls won’t.
Girls will actually say they’re attracted to traits they really aren’t. Like, not in the least. Maybe they do it because they’re too ashamed to admit they don’t like the type of men society tells them they should like or maybe they just do it to fuck with us. The point is they do it, and it really rubs some men off the wrong way when they do.
I don’t think women are obligated to give men sex anymore than men are obligated to finance women’s lifestyles. Yet there are some circumstances under which men are forced to do the latter, and none under which women are forced to do the former.
No, I wouldn’t date a girl just because she’s nice (I feel that’s a better analogy. Like I said before, I’d fuck pretty much anything with a vagina at this point), the difference is I’ll would openly and shamelessly admit to that; simply being nice isn’t enough for a girl to hold my interest in a long-term romantic relationship, girls won’t.
Girls will actually say they’re attracted to traits they really aren’t. Like, not in the least. Maybe they do it because they’re too ashamed to admit they don’t like the type of men society tells them they should like or maybe they just do it to fuck with us. The point is they do it, and it really rubs some men off the wrong way when they do.
To address your last point, I’d just recommend investing in yourself in terms of fitness, your financial security, hobbies/pursuits that interest you, and being involved in social/interesting activities. It seems to me that with all of those on your side, you wouldn’t have to worry about what women “like” and seek to fill it, rather they would see you as a successful and attractive man and seek you out.
Being the flower v the bee, for a rough nature analogy.
I wish it were that simple. I have bad genes, and I suffer from Aspergers, which will make it difficult for me to climb up very high in the corporate ladder even after I’m out college. Plus, being passive just isn’t an option for most males.
I’m just not a very good mate. In the old ways, I’d at least have an equally poor but willing mate waiting for me down the line. Now, it’s like I said before, I’m just a useless surplus male, worthy of nothing but contempt.
I’m terribly sorry you feel that way about yourself.
If you read, “Models’ by mark manson is a great book
http://www.amazon.com/Models-Attract-Women-Through-Honesty-ebook/dp/B005EOTH24/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1413838100&sr=8-1&keywords=models+mark
How can you visibly do anything on the internet.
The tone and content of this entire article, but the vitriol in the comments section, is operating along a common theme
Wow.
I used to wonder if the phrases “too stupid to live” and “[their] greatest gift to humankind would be to never procreate” were harsh and unfair, if using them could ever truly be justified.
Then I read some of the articles here, out of morbid curiosity, and realised why those phrases were invented: The writers on this website.
So, if a woman sleeps with more than three people by her mid-20’s she’s a slut and a loser with no self respect, but a guy bragging/lying to anyone who’ll listen about how many people they’ve (supposedly) slept with is a legend?
Tattoos are manly and meaningful… Unless it’s a girl getting one? Then she’s a slut, even if it was a star on her ankle?
Women and men think differently (I’ll grant you that, to an extent), so women should shut up and return to being good little baby-making housewives?
That isn’t drawing logical conclusions, that’s playing Mr Squiggle while Logic yells at you to stop fucking around with the whiteboard.
Yeah, men and women are different creatures. Nobody ever guessed that in history.
When I see a lot of feminists (and non-feminist women too) here complaining about this site and many others in the manosphere, the only conclusion I can make is that you all ladies are worried, seriosly worried about not falling into 40s alone and living with cats.
Yeah, why would they visit here if it’s so terrible? If we really are such miserable people who never get laid, then why should they care?
Being a woman is fine. To be honest I don’t really think my sex is that big a deal, especially as I don’t want kids. Half my mates are men (and always have been) I’ve worked in both male and female dominated professions. I’m tall – luckily, so have never really noticed any downsides to being a woman. I’m happily married and previous relationships have also been cool. I’m entirely relaxed about gender and don’t see the world as men v women because my world has just never been like that.
It shouldn’t be men vs women. We’re different for a reason. No one can be everything.
Honestly, I do agree that tiny heterosexual women screaming about how they don’t need a man and then crying because there “aren’t any good guys out there” really pisses me off. Any good guys now think you’re a cunt for lumping them all together like that. When a woman gets hurt by a man, other men normally take care of it or at least protect her to keep it from happening again. We do need men. Children need a male influence and if we don’t choose one then any man can become that influence. Ladies, accept that men are important to our survival as a fucking species. I don’t like that I’m physically inadequate but I’m not fighting it either. I do what I can for myself but I’m not opposed to asking for help and I sure as fuck am not putting myself in situations where I feel unsafe. And it is perfectly okay to immediately tell a man you are not interested as long as you make it clear and stop the coy shit because women are vague and men know that. All this shit about women going out on dates for the free food, are you fucking kidding me? Thanks for making us all look bad. No one deserves respect if they’re going to act like an asshole. Also, stop fucking attacking each other and only getting along for a moment to jump in the man bashing wagon. It’s stupid. And men, don’t assume every woman is a lying slore. Yes, they are out there, abundantly. And I apologize on behalf of my vagina toting people for some of the unbelievably WTF-worthy shit being done. But seriously, some women are actually women not this weird hybrid lost girl stuff.
Honestly, I do agree that tiny heterosexual women screaming about how they don’t need a man and then crying because there “aren’t any good guys out there” really pisses me off. Any good guys now think you’re a cunt for lumping them all together like that. When a woman gets hurt by a man, other men normally take care of it or at least protect her to keep it from happening again. We do need men. Children need a male influence and if we don’t choose one then any man can become that influence. Ladies, accept that men are important to our survival as a fucking species. I don’t like that I’m physically inadequate but I’m not fighting it either. I do what I can for myself but I’m not opposed to asking for help and I sure as fuck am not putting myself in situations where I feel unsafe. And it is perfectly okay to immediately tell a man you are not interested as long as you make it clear and stop the coy shit because women are vague and men know that. All this shit about women going out on dates for the free food, are you fucking kidding me? Thanks for making us all look bad. No one deserves respect if they’re going to act like an asshole. Also, stop fucking attacking each other and only getting along for a moment to jump in the man bashing wagon. It’s stupid. And men, don’t assume every woman is a lying slore. Yes, they are out there, abundantly. And I apologize on behalf of my vagina toting people for some of the unbelievably WTF-worthy shit being done. But seriously, some women are actually women not this weird hybrid lost girl stuff.
“She’ll never admit it to herself, but every woman has a Disney fantasy about some strong man taking her away and becoming her identity. ”
Manslation: “I am such a self centered entitled asshole I can’t imagine a world where women don’t need me to define them. My existence is very very depressing”
“At this point, many people will say I hate women or think they are evil, but that is…to use your word…ignorant. To tell a woman not to be manipulative, self-serving, or finicky is to tell a hawk not to devour a mouse. It is in a woman’s nature to act like a woman, and so it is unjust for us men to judge them for being so. To hold women to the same standard as men is the greatest discrimination.”
Manslation: “I think women telling me what they want and don’t want in a relationship is manipulative because my needs are the only needs that matter. Any relationship that doesn’t revolve just around me and my dick is self-serving and finnicky. Why did I have to be born into a world where women have their own thoughts and aren’t obligated to please me sexually? Imagining a world were women and men have the same capabilities scares the shit out of me so I am going to pretend it doesn’t currently exist”
Seems like I’ve seen your comments for a few days. How much rage do you have?
Thats my one and only comment. what does rage have to do with anything?
Thought I saw you post before. So many, men suck comments floating around hard to make heads or tails of it all. Sounds like you got your “manslations” wrong. That is almost cute. Maybe someone will fight you over that. If you really want a laugh try reading an article not about women. I promise your head won’t explode.
And when I say laugh, I really mean a removal of you original thoughts. They have fewer than 200 comments for one reason only, they don’t mention women. And maybe have something of value that can enrich your life.
But heaven forbid the “misogynist” have something to share. Or is that a manslation: I scratch heavily and am pissed she hates my scratching?
I didn’t say men suck, I said this guy’s view point sucked. If you have any evidence to support why my manslations are wrong for his particular article, feel free to elaborate.
I never said men suck, I said the ideas being promoted by this particular writer suck. Condescendingly telling me I am ‘cute’ doesn’t make up for the fact that you didn’t manage to ‘prove’ that my manslations were wrong, or manage to add anything to the discussion.
Sure. First manslation (such a silly term FYI and barely non-misandrist) who says he lives up to the ideal of her knight to carry her away? And two, isn’t that the basis of a wedding celebration for most women asides from those not interested in men?
Your second ‘manslation’ is well off base. To fully address the way women communicate he speaks mentions it is manipulative and finicky. It is. Women tend to communicate on several levels and I sometimes don’t get it. This is in no relation to wishing women served him in a way that suits him best. He admits his error in judgments and while you take offense to the coldness of a woman’s nature, this speaks all the more to the practical ways that can be at times ruthless. So while you saw it as a disdain for the way things are, it is his realism that you sensed. Both are off.
Sure, manslation is a silly term but I think its fitting for an obviously misogynist article. Misandry hurts men’s feelings, but it does nothing to hurt men collectively as a group in the way that misogyny does.
I don’t really see what you are asking with your first point, “Who says he lives up to the idea of her knight to carry her away?” Who is he? the writer of the article? Why does it matter if he lives up to the idea of her knight? and two, “isn’t the the basis of a wedding celebration for most women…” god I hope not. Do you honestly believe that what most women want in marriage is to revolve around the needs of their husband?
That misandry doesn’t hurt men like women is quite naive of you. You do realize the horrors of a man’s life in America or is that not something worth addressing because your whoas may be potentially worse as a woman?
I wouldn’t speak to what any woman wants after her wedding ceremony but my thinking was the ceremony was to celebrate, the knight won, the princess celebrating her transition to being a queen to her match and loving partner king. Isn’t that the reason many women have fantasized about being with a member of the royal family? Those are ugly men, but they are royal and command respect and would legally entitle a woman to being called queen. Whether all women have this core belief once again, there must be exceptions. By and large the fantasy is a real reason that weddings are sought out.
You only extrapolated a few articles before you said this site is for misogynist. I frequent this site. A bunch of the guys who have commented frequent this site. We don’t all communicate the same but we have a few common goals. To be stronger individuals, remove lies that may hinder happiness, and improve our quality of life as well as those we choose to love and care for.
I think this article is misogynist, I don’t know about the rest of this site as I haven’t read it.
I simply don’t believe that misandry exists, men suffer and women suffer, that is the nature of being human. Some men suffer more than some women, but men do not suffer in an institutionalized society enforced way in the way that women suffer under the patriarchy.
Of course misandry exists. The married laws bit has been talked on and are clearly in favor of women. Sexual harassment is far more likely to be labeled on a man. Women beat on men publicly daily and it is excused under the umbrella of women being softer than a man so sure he can take it. Any of the jokes levied here could potentially cost me my livelihood but let a woman say something sexist about a man, cool. If a woman is in a verbal dispute publicly with a man, 9/10 times the man, if he raises his voice, risks assault from strangers because he will be presumed to be on the attack. Boys are so shamed in regards to being masculine, many more are involved in homosexuality. And it is publicly excused as courageous. Why is suddenly such a courageous act for a man to be homosexual while, coincendentally, of course, because this is just a fact of life, the masculine male had to go underground because he is inherently a misogynist. Maybe it could be social convenience? And you don’t consider any of this the indoctrinated hatred of masculine nature or of men?
I can list a lot more examples of indoctrinated male hatred in our society and you will say misandry doesn’t exist. Much like women desiring to be treated like royalty and black business owners, the idea of male hatred must not possibly exist if you don’t see it.
A lot of this is paraphrased because to actually devote time to the number of ‘misandry is real’ comment I’ve ever replied to would be draining beyond belief, but in summary:
Feminists do not want you to have to make alimony payments. Alimony is set up to combat the fact that women have been historically expected to prioritize domestic duties over professional goals, thus minimizing their earning potential if their “traditional” marriages end. The assumption that wives should make babies instead of money is part of patriarchy.
Feminists do not want women to escape prosecution on legitimate domestic violence or sexual assault charges, nor do we want men to be ridiculed for being raped or abused. The idea that women are naturally gentle and compliant and that victimhood is inherently feminine is part of patriarchy.
There is no system set up to hate males. That is what misandry suggests, and that is simply not true. Feminists hate the patriarchy, they do not hate men.
We live in a world of measurable, glaring inequalities. Look at politicians, CEOs, film directors, law enforcement officers, comedians, tech professionals, executive chefs, mathematicians, and on and on and on—these fields are dominated by men. To claim that there is no systemic inequality keeping women and minorities out of those jobs is to claim that men are just naturally better. If there is no social structure favoring men, then it stands to reason that men simply work harder and/or are more skilled in nearly every high-level specialized field, we know from college enrollment statistics and the percentage of women earning degrees across these fields that that simply isn’t true.
If a woman and a man have equal potential in a field, they should have an equal opportunity to achieve success in that field. It’s not that we want the least qualified women to be handed everything just because they’re women. It’s that we want all women to have the same opportunities as all men to fulfill (or fail to fulfill, on their own inherent merits) their potential. If a particular woman is underqualified for a particular job, fine. That isn’t sexism. But she shouldn’t have to be systematically set up, from birth, to be underqualified for all jobs (except for jobs that reinforce traditional femininity, obv).
masculinity is revered by our society, its why its alright for girls to be tomboys and horrible for boys to dress up as fairies: because our society finds the feminine to be degrading.
men need to recognize that it is not okay to focus on how they are victimized by the system that actively oppresses women. It’s why misandry isn’t real the way misogyny is. Are there some women who hate men? Of course. There’s always somebody who hates somebody else. But it is not institutionalized oppression, and that is why feminists don’t want to hear about it. We do not have the power to oppress men. We do not earn more money than men, and therefore have the ability to manipulate our husbands into staying under our abusive thumbs, or foregoing their own personal enrichment to stay at home and care for us and our children. We do not dominate the House of Representatives, the Senate, the Supreme Court, and the White House, and we cannot pass laws telling men what they are and are not allowed to do with their own bodies. We do not as a group have the power to control men. Are there individual women who lord power over men? Of course. But it is not institutionalized, it is not the dynamic inherent in government, media, and the majority of households, it is not oppression.
“The assumption that wives should make babies instead of money is part of patriarchy.”
I didn’t know husbands were capable of rearing children.
“We do not earn more money than men, and therefore have the ability to
manipulate our husbands into staying under our abusive thumbs”
It’s called marriage. A large financial manipulation.
“We do not dominate the House of Representatives, the Senate, the Supreme Court, and the White House”
Women have the same voting rights as men, and vote for candidates which serve their self-interest. Just because a politician has a penis doesn’t mean he doesn’t have female priorities. He panders to his voters and what they want.
“these fields are dominated by men.”
These fields were also created by men in a free-market capitalist system which women have just as much access to. It’s becoming apparent that women can’t create their own businesses/jobs, thus they need men to give them jobs. The free-market does not have social structure which prevents women or anyone else from entering.
Thank you for the in depth reveal of feminism. If any of this is markedly true than there is a distinct shame to be held on the part of the feminist for not teaching her disciples these tenements. So misandry doesn’t exist if it isn’t institutionalized?
First, you mentioned throughout your argument that women do hate men. It would also stand to reason that feminism would be the perfect discipline to house misandrists as the overall system attacks the patriarchy. Who represents the patriarchy? Men.
Does the patriarchy live on? Depends who you think of as the patriarchy. In your argument you listed women and minorities outside of the bucket of patriarchy. That leaves white male as the head enemy. Also lists minorities as non masculine entities because they to must fight the patriarchy because it attacks them too. The truth there is you improperly labeled your fight and are only gunning on one group. So inherent in the fight is racism, elitism and sexism.
You say feminism doesn’t support the resource fishing that occurs by women. Then what is this welfare state outgrowth that is rampant? Why are so many women celebrated for having a child and saying they do not need a man? On that point, I have seen a few women posting on Craigslist asking for a guy to impregnate them and never contact them. If I were to pry, I’m sure they would support the belief that they truly do not need a man. Single parent households usually create children with issues. Lots and lots of issues. It is why father’s day and prostate awareness month, as carry overs, get no respect. Is that the patriarchy or the overt label of label of misandry that I’m using? Much like the word slut is ducked by one who acts on those behaviors, so to is the word misandry here.
School is a mute point. There is no scientific evidence that women are intellectually inferior to men. Using emotionally charged arguments does make it seem that women are but more than a few women I’ve discussed things with here have spoken with emotions and reason. Of course with a vast majority of women in schools, numbers will show they operate the same. If women were proved to be inferior, schools would have to either close or be ovehauled as it would reveal their inadequacy. The inadequacy still shows in the work force regardless as certain schools prepare far worse than others. Once again mute point because gender and system employed are separate aspects.
Men and women learn differently. Yet the boy is far more likely to be diagnosed with ADHD. This wasn’t an applied disease until the late ’80s early ’90s. Once again, not far from when the abusive man was outed and women sought even more so, beyond bra burnings, to protect themselves from being victims. Instead, the concept of women as victim, as you say it isn’t feminist, has been used to promote many arguments as to why men have it good. We are stronger than women. We ran the world for far too long over women. We don’t have the right to tell you what to do, and so on. If Feminism wasn’t used in regards to women as victims, then why does it rear it’s head mainly when women can be seen as such? Sounds like selective distancing. You’re not a victim except when you can gain more power from being a victim?
Fast forward to today. The man has laws against him raising his hand. The man has allotted avenues for his aggression. It isn’t tolerated in society. Is it that society doesn’t tolerate it or women don’t tolerate it? Is it also any coincidence that the shows of old, Home Improvement, Martin or even Married with Children, have gone extinct? Is it that they represent the patriarchy or masculine. I can continue further but I hope I have listed enough points.
Feminist beliefs, as clarified here would have merits. In truth those merits are not clarified so misandrists flutter to your flock for shelter as any person who hates another would a group where there beliefs are tolerated. The Patriarchy as per the fight, is towards white males. Inherently, minorities are sub human and a vagrant after thought. Sexism, racism, and elitism. Once again, I can choose to continue, and you will say I am wrong. In truth, your group deliberately hides these beliefs to promote control. This is no different than Nazism or any other gross belief broad stroked for an “all”. Except here I choose not to promote any support of the sort as your group employs covert tactics. Prove me wrong by showing feminists who act these beliefs. Otherwise, I see it as thinly veiled bigotry. And I do despise bigotry.
yes it has to be institutionalized for it to exist, otherwise its just mis-kevin-dry or mis-andrew-dry. Women are allowed to dislike you as an individual, thats not oppression.
The patriarchy is a system that causes problems to both men and women, feminists aren’t anti men, they are anti-patriarchy. Men benefit from the patriarchy, yes.
women don’t need men, that isn’t misandry. Men don’t need women either, and saying so isn’t misogyny.
I refuse to argue any further with someone so deluded as to the way the world functions, as its a complete and utter waste of time.
Everything that MRAs talk about that men can’t do or are socially punished for arise directly and immediately from misogyny. Not “misandry.” Misogyny.
Whether a man is expressing his emotions, playing with hischildren, baking, having sex wherein he is penetrated in any way, wearing the wrong color, talking the wrong way, moving the wrong way, being sexually harassed/assaulted, or paying too little attention to looking like he’s not paying attention to how he looks, when society punishes him or derides him or marginalizes him for these things, it is happening because they are things women, not men, are expected to do, and our society at large fucking hates women.
Has that sunk in yet?
Men, can you even think of a single goddamn way you have ever been mocked that wasn’t related to something that a misogynist society sees as feminizing? Even when large men are mocked for their bodies, they are referred to as having “man-boobs,” for fucks sake.
How do you expect to improve those things with “men’s rights?” What right are you fighting for? I can tell you what I think you’re fighting for. I think you’re fighting for the right to contain and control misogyny, and direct it back at women, where you think it belongs. You want to maintain your privilege but erase its consequences, and that’s why your movement is farcical; it’s a big fucking feedback loop. How do you expect men to be free from the peripheral effects of misogyny when you refuse to even fucking believe it’s real?
I want to know in what world does hate have to be institutionalized to be hate? So if I hate women it is hate but if you hate men it is not?
Guess laws like Yes means Yes also is a solid representative of civil protection and in no way misandry?
I gave you respect for your beliefs but failed to see how they are employed and you think I’m simply turning misogyny off and on to win an argument?
You have managed to do something solid. Why on earth would you believe I would goad someone with solid beliefs into a push, with only the hope of shaming you? Listen up, stop running from the truths. Your side of feminism hides as many misandrists as mine can hide misogynist. You don’t want to see it because you want to paint your side as victims. Who ggets the health foocus of society? Who is most funding spent on to ensure the genetic future of humanity? Who is marketed most when it comes to television? Who do most sellers appeal to when looking to make a sale? Who controls where kids ultimately end up at school? Who decides that men are too be held accountable to the law? Who is empowered by marriage? Whoo wins the majority of divorce? Who gets shamed for complaining about being cheated on? Who gets chided for being physical? Whoopidty doo! I can have sex with a ton of girls and not be shamed. Except in California if I’m in college. Coming to a state near you. You don’t want to discuss. You want to prove you came rightfully to this site and found a haven for women haters. Yet one is looking to open a discourse and you stick your fingers in your ears (metaphorically) and shout la la, women don’t hate. La la men are evil and patriarchy hurts us all. Opinions sting. Accepted behavior is cruel. Law hurts. And who do the laws go after hmm? Who can be arrested on a suspicion or whim in America? But you don’t hear me right? And you wonder why the majority of men say fuck feminists?
And men and women need each other or the species end. No side has become sophisticated enough to procreate asexually. So unless you want the human race to end change that belief quick
dude I didn’t say men were evil. How on earth could yes means yes ever be misandry?
Of course something doesn’t have to be institutionalized for it to be hate, but misogyny is the institutionalized favoring of men over women, and misandry doesn’t effect men as a whole. Women hating men doesn’t harm men in an institutionalized measurable way the way that society’s disregard for the feminine hurts women. Hating men hurts their feelings, it doesn’t hurt their privilege.
these examples you are listing are all examples of how men are harmed by sterotypes about women and what women should be, this is what feminism wants to end not to promote.
obviously I didn’t mean that women don’t need men to make babies.
the fault is with the patriarchy and misogyny (women can be misogynist too).
Gender does not exist. Sexually distinctive behaviors do exist, for example: Females lactate and males do not, though both are mammals. Sexually distinctive behaviors are different from gender because gender is a culturally variant phenomenon, whereas breastfeeding is something that happens everywhere. In the animal kingdom, there are many sexually distinctive behaviors displayed by animals of both sexes, but to confuse these ingrained, instinctive mating display behaviors with something as complex and culturally variant as gender is absurd. Humans are not frogs, fruit flies, ducks, or bonobos. Gender dictates that women behave differently from men, and this behavior varies by culture. Patriarchy requires gender to exist, which is why all patriarchal cultures use gender. The study of the baboons actually brings home the idea that aggressive behavior in males is not inherent, as when the alpha male baboons died out, they were replaced with male baboons who were “nice guys”, and were not aggressive. The young males were socialized to be pacifists, and obviously it worked, and they were. It’s very encouraging because it means that gendered, aggressive male behavior (alpha male BS) is not ingrained, but learned, and that all it would take for humans to achieve a similar result would be to poison all the alpha males and wait a generation… (just kidding).
Anyway, there is no scientific evidence to suggest that there is such a thing as inherent gender in humans. Because human behavior is so richly varied, and gender roles themselves vary by culture, it is impossible that gendered behaviors be inherent in one sex or the other. As such, it is also impossible for them to be misplaced. I am not naturally nurturing any more than all men are naturally violent. Men who are more nurturing, kind, soft, sweet etc, are not “women” on the inside (though they’re A-OK in my book… we need more soft men). They are simply displaying normal human emotions and behaviors. Their gender is not “misplaced”, but they and society at large presume that the behaviors they display, because they are more commonly associated with females, is the result of them being female “on the inside”. I have known many different kinds of women. Some of them wore dresses and engaged in “girly” behaviors, and some of them didn’t shave, enjoyed rock climbing, and hated babies. They were all women because they were all adult human females, but they did not all share the same “feminine essence” that everyone associates with womanhood. None of the more “butch” women believed they were not women simply because their behaviors were more “mannish”. You can’t be fluid and “play gender like jazz” if you honestly believe that picking from one of two constraining boxes is true freedom.
I don’t feel that sex affects abilities, likes, or dislikes, nor does it affect social behavior. Everyone is so very different that sexual determinism (gender), even if it is supposedly “fluid”, places limits on people. Why should it be fluid when it could just as easily not exist at all? The only solution to the oppression of women is the destruction of patriarchy, and the only way to destroy patriarchy is to undermine gender, not make it more “flexible”.
Gender is a social construct in the same way that race is. The color of a person’s skin makes no difference in their abilities or personality, but our society ascribes much importance to skin color through institutionalized racism. Because of this, the color of a person’s skin matters very much socially. Because gender works the same way, a person’s sex matters very much socially. Because I am female in a patriarchal, male dominated, gendered world, my sex matters and is relevant in terms of how I am treated and perceived by society at large. I have been catcalled, groped, and harassed by adult men in public when I was still a girl. They didn’t do this because I “identify” as a girl. They did this because I am female in a culture that is both misogynistic and male-dominated, and because they were socialized to be aggressive, entitled narcissists who are placed in a higher social position over women and girls by default. This socialization is called gender, and my socialization taught me to shrink, to be silent, to not question it because “boys will be boys”. Gendered socialization enables patriarchy to exist. Making the boxes more flexible or making new boxes does not question the hegemony of gender or the oppressive nature of patriarchy (and industrial capitalism), which kills thousands daily (most notably girls and women, but also indigenous people and POC) and destroys the environment at an alarming rate, making our planet toxic, dead and unliveable. All of these things are intertwined.
Well then your statement is an immediate lie and shouldn’t be said. I take women don’t need men as women don’t need men. Independence is one thing. Need is another.
Yes means Yes is misandry because it allows for men to bee arrested when there is no verified yes. If a woman lays there without a word, that is not consent. If she decides after the fact to take her numbers down one or two, Jake raped her, she can get him arrested. But that is an example of a misogynistic world and not misandry. How could a law created to go after men and broaden the scope of rape from a forcible act of entry to the point of her not saying yes means rape be misandry?
Yes means Yes harms men in an institutionalized way. Employment agencies choosing women over men hurts men in an institutionalized way hurts men. Women chosen over men for entry into schools because they wish to be pro-feminist hurts men in an institutionalized way. Hurting men does in fact hurt us all. All the same as in hurting women hurts us all.
That you still can’t even process that misandry exists shows that you are very close minded and have your victimhood well intact.
well yeah, raping people isn’t okay, obviously. False reports of rape are between 2 and 6% depending on the article, much less prevalent than the number of women who are raped.
“How could a law created to go after men and broaden the scope of rape from a forcible act of entry to the point of her not saying yes means rape be misandry?”
manslation: “I am sad that I can’t get away with fucking women who don’t want me to fuck with them and that people now acknowledge that rape can happen to people in relationships and isn’t just a scary man forcing entry into a vagina in an alley somewhere”
also, newsflash, not all women want babies, and you technically don’t even neeed a man to be with you to make one. SPERM BANKS YO.
The gender aspect is bull as well. In a sense you are right. Society has been messing with the genes of men in several ways too make us softer. Of course this is misogyny too, right? Companies have added estrogen into food supplies, developed social constucts to teach men equality (for example you can never, ever develop my strengths without costing yourself the ability to reproduce) and soften his nature. In changing it, you have a rampant amount of gay men and transgenders running around not even realizing they are engineered thinking they are courageous for being themselves. Homosexual activity isn’t new. Is it any coincidence that as the estrogen increased so did homosexuality?
Ah…I get it now. Time out. Sperm banks? You don’t need men? Misandry doesn’t exist? Boo Hoo I will lose the right to rape? You…You are the face of misandry. You have such a disdain for the patriarchy that seeing everything male leveled in its wake is beautiful. Even embracing your soft men is beautiful. You want men to be like you. You hate men. So of course you can never admit it. It would be a paradox. I was almost going to get angry but now it all makes sense. So when men are as soft as women, only get hard for other men, sex with you and women are the new class superior you will be happy. I understand now. No wonder manslation, misogyny, men should be subverted is all you know. Phew. I feel better now. At least I know the face of hatred now. It sits and points at everything but itself and says all is wrong with everything but me.
Your agency never intended to teach anything about equality because you have to have inequality. It would take discussing this with a different woman to get what I want. ‘Manslate that’.
no, women and men haven’t inherently the same traits, some women are softer and some men are harder, this doesn’t have anything to do with gender, it has to do with the nature of being human, traits are distributed widely and if someone is hard or soft has nothing to do with if they have a penis or a vagina. The way they express their hardness or softness is determined by an entirely invented concept: gender. Women that are hard are seen as more ‘masculine’ but this is only because we believe in gender, a purely socially constructed idea. Homosexually is on the rise because it has become more accepted by society, this doesn’t negate the fact that homosexuals have probably existed in equal or similar numbers for millennia.
*women and men have inherently the same traits
so I hate men because I don’t think they should be entitled to be able to have sex with whoever they want whenever they want? lawlz.
You know, YES, false rape accusations are fucked up, nobody is going to dispute that, BUT they’re NOT a problem like people seem to think they are. They are NOT ACTUALLY common place enough for you to show such hostility to every victim that comes forward. They’re actually quite fucking rare because nobody WANTS to go through that shit. You must not care to realize the shit rape victims go through when they come forward. The toxic response to rape victims is precisely why so many women DON’T report.
And why do MRAs not talk about the fact that actual false rape allegations often times have more to do with racism than sexism? It affects Black men, Latino men, but they don’t care. Funny how that works.
What they actually care about is the fact that they don’t understand that women are capable of consent and should be consenting; women are not sex objects for you to act upon. You need to make sure she is ACTUALLY consenting, not drunk, not coerced, and not just force yourself on her, regardless of how she’s responding, and then get surprised later when she accuses you of assault. Women don’t “regret” sexual experiences and then call it rape like you think they do. That doesn’t even make sense, especially considering how often rape accusations ruin the lives of the VICTIM more than the perpetrator. Why would a woman say, “man, I can’t believe I slept with that dude, guess I better say it was rape!” No. Stop. That only shows how much disrespect you have for women, how you find them utterly incapable of logic and ruled entirely by some emotional, vindictive core. Stop that. You’re being an asshole.
No you hate men because you believe in victimhood, can’t claim your own hatred, excuse nature, express an inability to process the direct necessity of coming together for better relations, consistently look for a superior angle, offer no solutions other than something that can only benefit you and claim that it can benefit me too. Who I have sex with and who you have sex with is neither of our concerns unless it endangers either one of our health.
I said it before so let me be plain, you can joke your way around hating men, your comments and hopes for a softer man speak for itself. You would be best suited for a world where everyone was like you. Or you had as many faces to laugh at before you pass on. I truly hope you lose some of your bitterness before you develop cancer. Harming negative emotions is detrimental to your health
It has happened and it will continue to happen as long as laws favor women. Don’t change tune mid stream though. Isn’t this the patriarchy? And men of any part of the race are still men? But keep mentioning the patriarchy as separate.
that law is not favoring women it is favoring people not getting raped.
The Men’s Rights Movement has been running shit for thousands of years, but we always called it “patriarchy” previously
And if you think my call for equality means I am trying to take rights from men, somebody has been lying to you, and you believed them.
what does that have to do with victimhood? you make victimhood sound like some badge of honor women carry around and newsflash- they don’t. No one wants to be a victim, no one wants to be assaulted, but that shit happens. People resist being viewed as victims so much, that by and large most rapes go unreported, contrary to your ‘false rape’ problem.
Patriarchy fighting because they put me down is a perpetual state of victimhood. Until the patriarchy is gone, you will always find an excuse or thing to blame. Equality eh? What is equality? Equality makes you sound like you look down on the world’s way. And would happily place your way. This is why I said you are egotistical and might best be suited for a world with yourself and people you can loook down on. Equality it the beginning of subjugation and loss of individuality. You have no right to claim your ideals of equality on the world. None. If you desired freedom and respect I’d have said different. You not only avoided those words aside from freeing women from patriarchy but you never suggested anything to better men or mankind. I think there should balancing laws don’t you, if we are being equal?
How about anytime a woman says a sexist joke in the office, a man can report her to HR? How about if a man doesn’t say yes it is rape as it wasn’t expressed consent? This would be equal. But you don’t want that. You want equal by your standards. Out of curiosity what are those standards?
I think men should report women for making sexist jokes and yes I think that men can be raped.
I look down on a world that operates in a way that systematically undervalues women and POC, yes.
Well, you are a woman so naturally you’ll start from yourself when it comes to change. Same as I would start from my manhood.
It is comical to me in some ways that you would say gender is a social construct and yet want a world with softer men. As in a projection of yourself. State it how you like but sounds like narcissism.
It took far too much prodding to get you suggest anything in regards to penalizing women so I don’t think it comes natural to you. In an equal world you won’t do it. I will suggest again, step away from your beliefs on patriarchy and if equality is your real goal, you need to take a better look at people. And ditch equal. There is no equality as we don’t see the world the same. Everything that promoted equality has always led to the subjugation of another. Or you know, don’t consider this option, and you know, keep saying misandry doesn’t exist, patriarchy is your enemy and women and men don’t need each other. It has clearly done a great job so far for you.
Out of curiosity, how old are you?
23
Cool. Kind of reminded me of someone. Where do you reside?
You left out Joan Jett! Ludicrous oversight. Robert Plant had her tour with him more than once.
Hahaha Ok. Got yer point, really.
But maybe you too are oversizing facts a lil’ bit too much? Women either need your power or your money not really that “guidance” or “saving her from herself” bullshit you so happily imagined.
Want to have the woman of your dreams? You know, quiet, understanding, knows her place, etc? Make some money and grow some power dudes.
Want her to shut her pretty lil’ mouth and just use it for what you’d like her to use it? Keep her happy with yer money, grow some worth!
Seriously, what did you think you were? Some sort of life saviours? You are just the mean for a goal and that goal is universally known, getting her to live as a queen.
Maybe you romanticized a lil bit too much your own position in life? Matters are more simplistic. Ain’t got the money, not the power? You are just worthless! We all know that don’t we?
Quality female attention’s got a worth you know?
And as a man you got just three tools for appealing to women, failed the most important two? Guess the only thing you can hold to is your big mouth! But with that female-hating stuff spitting? You are not likely worth their time, pal.
You weren’t seriously expecting quality female attention or respect when you are such a nobody, did ya?
sounds like a bunch of men who are so disappointed in their own lack of achievement that they are using women as a scapegoat.
feminists don’t hate men, we hate men who are so afraid of their own inner weaknesses that they project their own.fears and lack of self worth.onto others and let it grow into contempt and misogyny.
All.humans have.strengths and weaknesses. no matter what gender.
you seem to have so few strengths, that you must dedicate your time to.manipulating and hating women. hahaha nice life.
the idiots who support you are fearful and must have very terrible lives to dedicate themselves to hatred also.
Another wave of bans might be needed, I am increasingly noticing a rise in women commenters. While I have been ignoring them, they are even becoming top commenters again. Those meat holes don’t deserve to comment here, a good woman is to be seen but not heard.
But, technically, you’re just seeing what we’ve typed, not ‘hearing’ us. So, in essence, we’re still being seen and not heard XD
CRAP! How are you going to see me on here?
But what about orgasms. Their “climax” is just so obviously superior … 🙁
So says Tiresias.
for someone boasting to be of the superior sex at “objective reasoning”, you sure make a lot of over-generalizations based solely on your own subjective reasoning.
stop trying to imagine you know what its like to be a woman.
and stop being such a sour puss. keep your mind open. maybe you haven’t met them yet but there are plenty of intelligent women who enjoy philosophy, geopolitics, current events, etc.
i’m laughing because i can’t believe someone actually believes this crap. you will never have a healthy relationship if you truly believe what you’ve written here. i can’t imagine what kind of past you’ve had but you have serious problems. if you were a woman, you’d be an extremist man-hating feminist. you are exactly in a man what you hate about women.
This is an extremely misogynistic article… and website for that matter. To generalize either gender is a close minded, ignorant act, that only results in harvesting hate and negativity. This mindset will leave all human interactions meaningless for whomever has it, making for a dull, unfulfilling, and anger-filled life. Each person (regardless of gender) has different talents, opinions, intelligence levels, areas of intelligence, etc. Women and men are meant to be complements, there is no better or worse. This is a prime example of the issue with the ‘ego’. One cannot achieve a higher state of mind or singularity without taking his/her mind outside of their ego. It saddens me that this will fall on deaf ears in this community, but if one person can get it through their head, perhaps it can change at least one person’s mindset. This isn’t a gender issue, it is an issue of separatism- which can affect everything from gender and races, to social classes and status levels. If people stop focusing on an issue of who or what is better (which will never be concluded or proven and is therefore a time-wasting argument), perhaps the human race will finally be able to accomplish something meaningful.
This articles has some valid points and what feels like some backwater butthurtness, but hey I got a good laugh. In all seriousness it’s tunnel vision. People are products of their environment. Women who learn to cultivate their chi and abandon say “yes to the dress” can be crazy strong. Just like couch potatoe men could be raped by a pack of viscous homo bubas fresh out prison or petifiels etc etc. Women (like men) who conform to the cardboard cut out media version of themselves and behave like snobs because they emulate their favorite characters in delusionality (most the population) are by all means fucking retarded.
When a fly farts it can blow up the moon here.
This is an extremely misogynistic article… and website for that matter. To generalize either gender is a close minded, ignorant act, that only results in harvesting hate and negativity. This mindset will leave all human interactions meaningless for whomever has it, making for a dull, unfulfilling, and anger-filled life. Each person (regardless of gender) has different talents, opinions, intelligence levels, areas of intelligence, etc. Women and men are meant to be complements, there is no better or worse. This is a prime example of the issue with the ‘ego’. One cannot achieve a higher state of mind or singularity without taking his/her mind outside of their ego. It saddens me that this will fall on deaf ears in this community, but if one person can get it through their head, perhaps it can change at least one person’s mindset. This isn’t a gender issue, it is an issue of separatism- which can affect everything from gender and races, to social classes and status levels. If people stop focusing on an issue of who or what is better (which will never be concluded or proven and is therefore a time-wasting argument), perhaps the human race will finally be able to accomplish something meaningful.
Here, i have a concept for each and every one of u dochebag, erectically challenged, minimum wage, low life,”my dad beat me as a child so i control a women to feel important” pieces of SHIT…. ur all pathedic excuses for PEOPLE i have no reason or need to break down anything here because as u reference “arguing with a child” each n every one of u have less intellegence than a fuckin stump n couldnt actually understand a fuckin thing. U didnt learn nothing, u read or heard some fantastic story about how men r superior blah blah blah and realized that was the ONLY way u could EVER measure up…. find an insecure girl n make her ur bitch lmfao. None of u have ANYTHING going for u. Enjoy the dead end jobs, food stamps, living paycheque to paycheque and feeling like a complete fuck up in the scheme of creation because every one of u r sad sad little boys who were prolly beat up everyday n molested as children…. finally i would like to point out most women r not only smarter than men but much more competent, as the dont have a penis dictating their every move; some of the BEST criminal defense lawyers r female!!! Get a fuckin grip u halfwits; this article sounds like something written in the 1950’s n it’s fuckin laughable!!! Just like the moron who wrote it, n the tools who support it!
English please.
So much rage.
as the dont have a penis dictating their every move;
Correct. You have a clit dictating your every move. Sexuality varies from person to person, not gender to gender, dummy
I love that u commented with such anger because i can tell u dislike senseless comments and unfounded reasoning, that is nothing more than opinions based on sterotypes and founded on prejudice; u have actually just proved everyone of my points about this ridiculous article and the moronic viewpoints based on gender. Thanks douchebag 🙂
That junk only works on other females dummy
What junk? Facts, logic and reasoning? Lol ya, i believe that, aince none of the “men” on here have any experience with using or understanding facts, logic and reasoning.lol as i said before, thanks for proving my point
You might shoot for a little experience using and understanding a spell-checker.
Lol well i dont need a spell checker cuz i spelled shit correctly; but even if i spelled something wrong i wouldnt waste time on a spell check when my audiance r morons anyways. Like all the fools before u, kick rocks bitch. Ohhhh hahaha the typo on since HAHAHAHAHA wow u idiots really have NOTHING to say do u?
Did you change your pic because a poster searched that image and found your craigslist escort ad?
Lolololol thats so funny. U r trying so hard to offend me. Ummm no, wrong again… that’s a pic of me n i changed it cuz the old pic was just that, old. U really need to get some friends to help u cuz ur fuckin lame…. u ran outta material awhile back bud.
You are too vapid to be worth much attention when I’ve got other things going on.
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Good luck with that whole craigslist thing. I hope you don’t get too many rough tricks.
You just proved his point. Lol
By the way. Grammar. It comes handy sometimes. It can mean the difference between “knowing your shit” and “knowing you’re shit”. 😉
Well unfortunately for u, i wouldnt bother switching the screen on my phone to b grammatically correct on this bullshit joke of a page. The truth is “you’re shit, n u know it” keep grasping at straws cuz u aint got nothin n u wont b nothin.
It’s really embarrassing when someone so illiterate attempts to defend/represent our gender. Please, just…don’t…
I love women, but if Alycia really represented women, I’d be a monk.
http://www.washingtonian.com/articles/people/2013-2014-top-lawyers-criminal-defense/
In case You were wondering who the top criminal defense lawyers are.
Maybe if u live in washington, i do not live there and my “world” is a lot bigger than washington. Do some REAL RESEARCH not just a quick google search, and u will discover i am correct… i am always correct. The faster this can be understood, the faster this “conversation” can end.
How about proving the criminal defense statement you brought up? Since you are always right, I’m sure you’re prepared to prove it.
https://www.facebook.com/LisaStraussLaw
http://www.calgarydefence.com/calgary-defence-lawyer-tonii-roulston/
http://www.derburgis.com/practice-areas/
http://www.calgarycriminaldefence.ca/Lawyers/Christine-E-Silverberg.shtml
http://www.criminaldefenceteam.com/Lawyers/Rebecca-Snukal.shtml
So, as i said before, some of the best criminal defense lawyers are female – at least in my city. my brother has used Tonii more than once and he has had his charges dismissed numerous times. She is one of the top ranked lawyers in my city. Thanks for comin out tho
So, a bunch of female lawyers on websites is supposed to establish them as the best of criminal defense attorneys? Where are cases won/lost? Where do they rank overall in America? I commend you for finding names. Looks like that was a hard days work. Maybe finding their placement will take half the time. Once again, you show off a short sighted statement and attempt minimal effort to prove your point.
Are you fucking retarded? this entire article is short sighted statements and the original point i made was to combat the short sighted comment wrote by the moron who put this article together. I wouldn’t expect you to know how much research would be involved to actually go through the lawyers career history and showcase/document each win and loss – then statistically analyze the data to determine quantifiable information.
As I mentioned before, my brother has used her (Tonii) three times and two of those times she had the case thrown out, and once she had the charges reduced from a 10 year sentence to a 3 year sentence.
Basically, I would never waste my time trying to do all that work to prove to you (and everyone else) that the idiot who wrote this is a fuckin idiot – anyone who doesn’t already know this are also idiots. The point is, that you are expecting, or should i say inviting me, to do something that would take WEEKS and for what? to prove to a half wit that the half wits he follows are halfwits? No bud, i proved my point. Go fuck yourself cuz you don’t got nothing to say. If you are so fuckin smart then why don’t u go and do exactly what you just suggested i do… LOL you never would because A) no one would ever do that cuz it’s fuckin stupid B) You wouldn’t have a fuckin clue what your doing in terms of valid research.
Just logical. Again you bring in outside arguments, laud excuses when challenged and claim superiority. If you had any point to what you said, the research would have been done. That you need to exclaim it would take weeks implies you a) won’t know the real numbers and b) stated a subjective opinion as fact to prove a point. The only point you proved is how willing you are to back up false statements, hoow egotistical you and closed minded you willingly choose to be to be right. Being right can leave you stuck in place.
No bud, wrong again. No one has this information, I made a statement based on experience and fact. You made an outrageous request so that when your request was not fulfilled you could feel as though you just accomplished something. My previous comment is still there. Re-read it dip shit, i broke it down for you so that someone like you could understand, although we both know that you made a request that no one could actually “prove” unless they spent weeks doing research for a fuckin mock web page lol catch a clue.
If that were the case I wouldn’t have looked through the links you posted before commenting. If I am wrong I am wrong. Learning is about improvement but to you this about right and wrong. I know what it factors which is why I said and say again, you willingly jumped in with a subjective statement and declared it fact. Whether Lisa is the best defense attorney, one of the best overall practicing now or the best in your state, seems to matter not outside of her being a woman. Relax about points for a second.
On to the article it is subjective. However it is a funny piece. You are offended. But happily throw rage and show off superiority. I said it before and I’ll say it again, let your rage go. I won’t say what you should or shouldn’t fight, but why hold on to such bitterness?
You stated women are some of the best criminal defense attorneys. I posted something suggested that quotient is smaller than you realize. You stuck thumbs in your eyes, claimed the world is bigger than Washington and then proceeded to bring evidence (you did look) that is equally as limiting. It isn’t impossible to prove what you say if it is fact. If it is an opinion, it can be contested. This article is an opinion. But your problem is you must be right. Good luck with that.
“Some of the best criminal defense lawyers r women” u really need to take a look at the sentence n what it really means. SOME!!!! I made a perfectly valid statement and i showed evidence. Im not writing a paper or participating in a conference so the evidence i showed was more relevant than anything u have showed/said to back up what u say. Ur opinion means nothing to me. I stand by what i aay, if u disagree then that is ur problem.
Heh, ‘Some’ is an opinion. Your right to have it. No need to write a paper but typically when someone argues an opinion, not the right to have it, they are of the mindset that opinion is fact.
*Wow!! Not sure what happened for this miracle to occur but Look^
You didn’t curse while speaking your mind! Not once!!
I curse generally all the time, I feel that cursing is not a representation of intelligence. Society has changed so dramatically in the last few years i’m surprised cursing is still considered a problem. Anyways this conversation really isn’t going anywhere and it’s becoming more redundant than it has been in the past so ima go ahead and end it. FYI my opinion stems from fact; the fact one of the best and most respected criminal defense lawyer in my city is female.
That’s one. Not some. Still an opinion.
Either way, it was intereesting seeing you switch the rage off for a second. You can’t be thatt old to say times have changed. But meh.
Cursing represents intelligence all the same as using big words. Depending where you start you’ll generally have to either prove you are intelligent or disprove you are intelligent. Language rules that terrain.
On to the article are you another one of those women, who claims that everything they see where a guy insults a woman, is misogynist if he doesn’t mitigate it wit a proper name?
Seems an inordinate amount of women have come to this site of late hunting for a good fight. Or to lambaste the audience as sexist pigs.
“I feel that cursing is not a representation of intelligence.”
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Alycia, there IS hope for you! You finally got one right. I’m so proud of you! Keep it up! Good job!
“…erectically challenged,…”
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This is my personal favorite from among your many pearls of wisdom.
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Are you describing a FOB Japanese who cannot wire a light socket?
Ha ha ha ha! You silly man! When Chinese man have erection, he votes.
Hahahaha this comment shows how stupid u really r…. get a dictuonary, look some shit up, then come back n try again. It must b so embarassig for u to b showed up n continuously put in ur place by a woman. Try again loser, ur still failing n im still laughing at u.
And u should have used “amongst” lol u used the wrong tense.
Put in my place by a woman?
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I thought I was dealing with an 11 year old girl.
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Arrested development much?
Sure bud, u r just getting worse n worse at this lol it’s funny to hear the shit that comes out of your mouth…. never relevant but always entertaining.
Don’t you have an abortion appointment this afternoon? You probably should be getting ready.
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You know, a shower, clean panties, that sort of thing. Do remember not to put your old socks on after the shower.
So you are acknowledging your arrested development?
Ha ha. Fishin’ are ya’? Be careful; if it smells like carp… :o)
Had I ever used “amongst” in the Catholic grade school I attended, a nun likely would have whacked my fingers with a ruler. They were appalled at the illiteracy that represented.
http://www.dailywritingtips.com/among-vs-amongst/
Amongst is antiquated.
Yet urban.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=amongst
Well, if it offends Infa D or Mom, I’ll pull it down.
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Odds are she has not yet seen the post, but has found time to see at least 14 tricks. I’ll just have to wait.
You replied to your own post, demanding that you use not-quite-as-lousy grammar.
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Exactly how high are you right now?
“Amongst is a variant of among. There is no difference between them. While amongst is fairly common—though still rare compared to among—in British, Australian, and Canadian English, it is rare in American English and may even have an archaic ring.”
http://grammarist.com/usage/among-amongst/
u bes pathudic
Do me first, Alycia! 😉
You’ll have to call her around 12:05 a.m. tonight if you want to be first, for tomorrow that is. Even then that doesn’t necessarily guarantee ‘freshness’.
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If you’re in a hurry, and want to get your licks in today, you probably can be somewhere around number 17.
You’re a disgrace to women Shut up
DAT beez a wawman?!
Kind of– and an annoying one that pukes out a vulgar confirmation of the authors view of women making it worse. It’s a good thing I am here to straighten these people out. Hahaha! Actually, I am eating a pice of Godiva chocolate mousse cheesecake from the Cheesecake Factory and reading her comment was harshing my mellow 😉
I feel the same way, but if you feel I’m being too hard on this ‘tard, let me know and I’ll pull my offending posts down.
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Otherwise…
No you’re fine. Anyone getting on this site , male or female usually gets treated in the way they deserve. If you come on here spewing vulgarity laced feminazi bs , then don’t come into the kitchen if ya can’t take the heat. This ‘woman’ is no lady and is getting what she clearly came here for. She does women no favors but I know most men realize she is not the norm
As you can tell by the “mod” next to my name, I can delete people. I personally have no problem with women commenting (ROK’s rule have changed a little) so long as they present a clear and logical argument, even if they disagree entirely.
Well, my sense of humor may get out of control once in a while, but i do try to present a clear and logical argument against some of the comments on here, I may ask a question of someone in a non antagonistic way and it’s usually answered but once in a great while i will get a vulgar, profanity laced reply that is certainly not clear or logical. but then again that can happen on any site, Mostly I realize that these guys just want a feminist free place to chat. I actually am more offended by the feminazis that make up new accounts specifically for certain articles like the “5 reasons tattoos mean a women is broken” (or something like that) and come here just to trash men . I would like them to be quiet as they do women no favors. They offend me more than the rare misogynists that blast me for no reason . They have a right to their opinion , i just wish they would say it in a clearer more logical way themselves. . I enjoy coming here and reading the comments. It is entertaining and enlightening and sometimes it’s other things, but it’s certainly never boring.
We aren’t supposed to casually ban people. But you know the ones who need it. The ones who come only to insult people and nothing else.
Understandable. Hey would I be pushing it if I said you need a ‘q and a’ column for these guys. Answered by a woman of course. Ok! Ok! Never mind. 🙂 have a great evening
Wow this man is very insecure with himself. I am glad I married a man who is not.
Well, while mass generalizations sound idiotic, as there are always exceptions (just like sentences like “all Americans are ____”, “all Europeans are____” is not ever going to be inherently accurate), you certainly have a few valid points. Plenty of us are, indeed, quite manipulative, self-serving, and finicky (just like a lot of men are narcissistic assholes, -but I don’t have to state that fact, as you all are quite proud of it on this site-). I have no problem admitting that I grew up loving Disney movies, I still love them, and I have always held onto my fairy tale ideals when it comes to romance in my life. And, yes, I am a small female and am well aware that I can be easily physically overpowered, which does make walking down the street in my city suck sometimes. And, true, we typically tend to be more emotionally driven than males (which, I’m guessing, is connected to our primal role as nurturers). Everyone has their strengths and weaknesses. But, you know what? I love being a woman. I enjoy it immensely. Despite our drawbacks, I think we’re lovely creatures. I am very self aware and do not deny anything about myself, positive or negative. Maybe I can’t walk down the street and think “I could definitely beat the shit out of that guy”, but I have plenty of other talents that I’m grateful for and would not trade for anything. And I quite enjoy my female mind, neurotic though it may be at times. Also, I think the female body is far more beautiful than the male body. Now, if you’ll excuse me, I’m going to go about my nightly routine of dancing around my house in a ballgown while singing to myself and enjoying the fact that no one will question me…because I’m a female, and we’re fully expected to act like loons 😀
sounds like you have a great relationship with your vibrator and Rx anti depression meds.
actually, bitch, I have a great relationship with my very handsome fiance whom I have been with for 5 years now. And since I’m a very healthy eater and very active, I’m quite happy and I don’t need anti depressants. Nice try.
nutcase in the head .. you fully admit to being a crazy.. “because I’m a female, and we’re fully expected to act like loons ” – I am sure your loser boyfriend is a beta male tool chump you found at the vegan market while sipping chianti and fava beans .
I was obviously joking around. Calm your tits. And my boyfriend despises vegans, is definitely an alpha male, a very hard worker and metal musician, and is probably far more masculine and useful than you’ll ever be
And I prefer cabernet over chianti 🙂 Though I do appreciate the Hannibal Lecter reference; he’s my favorite film/book character
You bragger, you..
“metal musician” – that says it all right there. Playing in basements at night banging street trash drunks, washing the dishes during the day. We know he’s not famous or he wouldn’t be tied down to your “crazy”.
It’s amusing that you think you can possibly offend or affect me at all. I live in a house of metalheads, you have to try a LOT harder than that to say anything that I would even find remotely shocking or offensive in any way. Everything you say is such a cliche assumption based on nothing but your own ignorance and bitterness. Such a dull specimen you are; all of your comments sound like they came from some brainless fat redneck at walmart. Come on, be a little more creative, sweetie, I believe in you! Oh, and we’re doing just fine financially and living in a lovely three story home, thank you. Try again!
well, far too many people are constantly bitching about their relationships and lives, so I figure I’d balance things out by actually expressing gratitude for mine 🙂
If you were “quite happy” with your relationship wouldn’t be here trying to change someone else’s opinion. If you were “quite happy” this discussion wouldn’t concern nor bother you at all.
Go clean up the house. The dishes and the laundry won’t do themselves.
And after that, forget your sarcasm, then learn manners, and feminine grace. Your fiance will thank me for it.
Already cleaned it, I always do. I’m obsessed with cleanliness, especially when it comes to my living space (and hygiene). I’m not trying to change anyone’s opinion. I don’t care what your opinion is. However, I will correct false accusations made about me, as will most anyone. I only found this site because it was mentioned somewhere in a post I saw regarding sadistic sites full of “men who want to rape and murder women” and I was just curious. Upon reading a couple of articles here, I can see the accusers were over reacting. Admittedly, I did make a few remarks in jest (i was taking public transportation and had forgotten a book, so I was bored), and I do tend to get caught up in banter at times, and response notifications via email can be hard to ignore. But I also saw that some of the men here do raise valid points/concerns and it kept my interest for a bit. And i do have manners. Dallas, however, hasn’t said anything remotely intelligent or kind, and has only shown interest in insulting people for no reason, thus I see no reason to waste courtesy on him.
“However, I will correct false accusations made about me”
Wow. That is some Ego. What makes you think YOU personally are so important to the discussions here?
Considered, rational, unemotional replies only.
…I was clearly referring to the cheap shot comments from Dallas specifically directed at me, not to the entire discussion. But if you’d rather just think I’m egotistical, be my guest. I don’t really care.
Delusional.
Go complain to your girlfriends. Men here have had enough of girls bitching and nagging. It’s very unfeminine and not taken kindly to in these parts.
Exit button is that way ——>
Haha, and where/when exactly did I complain? I think you’re the one who’s delusional. None of the comments you’ve made here have any relevance to anything that I actually said, and you’re just pulling insults/attempting to pick fights out of nowhere (much like a bitchy teenage female would do). Such a pity; in other threads, your comments seemed moderately intelligent. Perhaps you’ve suffered a brain injury since then. If you were truly secure with your masculinity, you wouldn’t be sinking to the level of generic, immature, irrelevant attacks. Adult debates involve addressing people’s ideas specifically and presenting logical, relevant points; not throwing childish tantrums or resorting to personal insults.
This is an internet blog. Anyone with half a brain knows that a healthy dose of scepticism, abstraction and emotional distance (ie not taking things personally) is required to take stock of whatever is said on the posts/comments.
Too bad you seem to have a full brain but can’t do neither of those things… Know why?
This blog is for men. You are not a man. Nor do you have the capacity for high intellect functions as described above. Men as a whole are not interested in female whining.
Know your place, and see yourself out.
Once again, I never complained, never whined, nor did I ever take anything you said personally, so your comments lack relevance; in fact, my initial post was indicating that I am GRATEFUL for what I am and what I have, so I’ve actually done the OPPOSITE of complaining. You’re the only one in this conversation who has been complaining (rather incessantly, might I add).
P.S. Know your place, and open the door for me 😛
I actually quite liked her response.
Also, I grinned at the, “(just like a lot of men are narcissistic assholes, -but I don’t have to state that fact, as you all are quite proud of it on this site-)”
Patti Smith, Chrissie Hynde, Janis Joplin, Grace Slick, Annie Lennox, Siouxie Sioux, Jone Jett, Hazel O’Connor, Stevie Nicks, Natalie Merchant, Nina Hagen, Martha Davis and Gilian Gilbert. All well-known, TALENTED female musicians from the rock genre or connected genres.
You missed the point, sweetheart.
I chose to respond to one of the multiple factually incorrect statements so how exactly did I miss the point?
Ummm… nope, sorry, you missed the point. Completely, in fact. Back to Faceplant with you, drone.
Janis Joplin didn’t play an instrument. Probably none of those you mentioned did. They just sang.
I like this article… There is a lot of truth in it. My favorite part is “anything that involves value judgments, and they generally seem uninterested in it unless it directly affects them. This is because a woman will always argue the person, not the issue.” SO much truth in such a short sentence. I like it all. EXCEPT for the generalization. Not ALL women are as this article portrays the feminine sex to be. Like anything in this life there are exceptions to every rule.
A woman has nothing that any man should be envious about imo. But the reverse can not be said. The fact is that even in today’s society of emasculated men it is still easier being a male than it is being being a female.
I half-disagree with this article. Being an ugly or deformed woman would absolutely suck, but I envy attractive women. They’ve hit the life lottery and can use their attractiveness and sex appeal to get almost anything they want in addition to their own careers and money. Women don’t have to live in a state of fear as long as they rely on strong men to protect them. It’s amazing how so many attractive women fuck their lives up with feminism.
Gotta love the whores that line up in the comment section to go, “Nuh-uh! Girlz r totes not like that! I haz a husband and a mental stability and totally not taking 1200 USD per month in head meds!”
Stable women, smart women, pretty women, good women that actually do have loving husbands/boyfriends instead of mental issues and cats aren’t coming onto a blog they hate to start pissing contests in the comment sections.
Hey now, cats are great.
And has it even crossed your mind any woman may be coming into the comment section not to “start pissing contests” but point out the obvious sexism present in it’s radically incorrect content.
I find this quite humorous, here men feel a NEED to create a blog to discriminate against women. Us ladies on the other hand, you don’t see any one of us devoting time to demean the opposite sex, online or in any form of public media. Might this be from pure insecurities in these guys, they must find an outlet to attempt to prove their “superiority” which in doing so, backfires in all extremes. You are no more masculine dehumanizing another person. You are no more dominant listing the downfalls of the opposite sex. You are no more superior, intelligent or of any higher-ranking. Quite the childish move.
Tell me again how many female blogs there are that degrade men & no woman bats an eye at them?
What’s that? You “ladies” don’t degrade men online? You mean
http://www.jezebel.com
http://www.feministing.com
http://www.everydayfeminism.com
and many more…….
They don’t exist after all??
Without sexism, you, me and everyone else probably wouldn’t exist today.
Let that sink in for a moment, then think again.
What are you talking about? I can name plenty of sites that are for women to piss on men.
sorry, not gonna argue your point or whatever, just studying different, generally shunned viewpoints that are held within some corners of humanity for school.But I did get stuck on one thing, where you mention there was never a successful female rock band? two words mate, The Runaways
I shall never, ever envy any woman; I envy no one but males superior to I. I am a human male, Pinnacle of Earth’s Beasts!
I certainly don’t envy their parking skills; what a silly bitch, and with a cell phone glued to her ear of course:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=89b_1413598812
this has to be the most sexist article I have ever read!
There’s worse.
I don’t even want to know…
Wow, the author of this article and all of you imbiciles below me are absolutely pathetic. I assume you all have some incredibly deep-seated mommy issues for which you should have probably sought professional counseling a long time ago. Mentalities like this are akin to the mindsets of rapists and serial killers of women. Your misguided machismo is actually quite contradictory to your obvious perception and assertion of yourselves as “real men”… This article reeks of the most stereotypical type of “bitchiness”, and quite frankly your writing style comes off as though it was written by a particularly effeminate, spoiled, and bratty 14 year old girl. Stop projecting your mommy issues, insecurities, and romantic/sexual inadequacies onto our entire gender. Based on this article, your general failure and ineptitude with women that has no doubt been an issue for you since at least early adolescence isn’t our fault, it’s yours. Grow a pair. Your incessant whining is so stereotypically effeminate the paradox is almost laughable. If you hate women so much stop acting like the worst caricature of one.
You’re an asshole.
That was a really really intellectual and well thought out response. Clearly the superior gender lmao
What an eloquent and intellectual reply. Clearly the superior gender Hahah you poor sad little men. How I pity you.
Imbeciles.
Wow, the author of this article and all of you imbiciles below me are absolutely pathetic. I assume you all have some incredibly deep-seated mommy issues for which you should have probably sought professional counseling a long time ago. Mentalities like this are akin to the mindsets of rapists and serial killers of women. Your misguided machismo is actually quite contradictory to your obvious perception and assertion of yourselves as “real men”… This article reeks of the most stereotypical type of “bitchiness”, and quite frankly your writing style comes off as though it was written by a particularly effeminate, spoiled, and bratty 14 year old girl. Stop projecting your mommy issues, insecurities, and romantic/sexual inadequacies onto our entire gender. Based on this article, your general failure and ineptitude with women that has no doubt been an issue for you since at least early adolescence isn’t our fault, it’s yours. Grow a pair. Your incessant whining is so stereotypically effeminate the paradox is almost laughable. If you hate women so much stop acting like the worst caricature of one.
Imbeciles
Nancy Wilson?
Kim Deal?!?
My poor lad, you have led a horrendously deprived pop-music existence, haven’t you? For raw, dripping sex from every pore of a female rocker, please allow me to present to you: Chrissie Hynde!
OK, yeah, she’s an early Boomer, and she’s always been a skinny little vegetarian bitch. Still, I dare you to come up with a more sultry example of rock than Chrissie’s contralto and licks during the likes of Cuban Slide:
And especially Mystery Achievement:
If a close listen to that last one doesn’t crank up the cannon rightthefucknow, then it really is time to abandon all hope.
If Chrissie isn’t your style, then please try sampling any one of a half dozen numbers by Joan Marie Larkin, aka Joan Jett. Whatever you do, please don’t try to give me any bullshit about the likes of Annie Lennox, Madonna Louise Ciccone or, God forbid, Gwen Stefani, because none of them has ever been any more genuine than the fraud who’s currently sitting in the Oval Office.
Wow…. you never getting laid is a real bummer, huh?
That’s pretty funny. the discussions with Liberal men pretty much exemplify the damage done by forcing them to get in touch with their feminine side.
Ladies and Gentlemen, please, show some decorum. Men and women who agree with this article, I greatly disagree with you, but I will show some respect to your right to your own opinion, not to mention your freedom of speech. Those of you who also disagree with this article, you also have a right to your opinion and freedom of speech, but there is no need to dissolve in to a horde of snarling beasts throwing nasty insults at each other and making comments that have nothing to do with the issue at hand.
Now, my comment directed at the article itself. Quite frankly, I agree with the title. I don’t agree with many of the points of the article, but I do agree with the title. Envy is a petty, nasty emotion, and will get you nowhere. Also, there are many women’s ‘privileges’ I believe to be unfair, even seeing as I am a woman myself.
Above all, I believe in equality. I understand that most people think that is an outdated, hopeless, overly optimistic belief, but then many people also believe in an all-powerful, kind and gentle God. You see the vague similarity, I hope.
Women do enjoy certain privileges due to their looks, their gender, their sexual appeal. I hate this fact. Not because I do not think women deserve shelters to protect themselves and their children from abusive men, or good clothes, or social acceptance, but because I feel men deserve these same privileges.
Men ARE better at some things than women. Women ARE better at some things than men. Some women are more on the masculine side of the scale, some men are more on the feminine side of the scale. Some men spend more time than Angelina Jolie (or any other female celebrity, take your pick) getting ready for each day, fussing over clothes and makeup and God knows what else. Some women have serious facial hair and muscles to rival Arnold Schwarzenegger(not sure if I got the poor man’s name right).
I have a point here, I promise I’m getting to it.
What it boils down to, is that you can’t make broad, sweeping generalizations about anyone based on physical characteristics, and gender is the biggest physical characteristic there is. I can proudly say, that as a woman, I do not live in fear (other than of earwigs and needles. Dear God, those are the nastiest things EVER). I have never gotten out of a ticket by crying. I would never tell you a poem means whatever you want it to. If I studied law, I would be in criminal law and send murderers and rapists to jail (be they male or female, and honestly, I would rather cut out rapists’ genitals, but what can I say? I have my bloodthirsty moments), but everyone knows lawyers are snakes, though that may be an insult to snakes. I could not talk to you about Siouxsie and the Whoever’s, or about the history of most rock bands, it’s true, but that is a lack of knowledge in the subject. Now, comparative history between European and Japanese feudalism, I can handle, as well as picking apart God-awful books like ‘How to Kill a Mockingbird’ (Truly dreadful, why would they subject anyone to that, much less impressionable high school students?!). I do have a Mensa level IQ, and occasionally put it to use, after all. I am occasionally manipulative, but what else are opposable thumbs for? Sorry, that’s a human trait, not a female one, as is being self-serving and finicky. Again I say, do not make sweeping generalizations, because people are unique in ways that have nothing to do with any physical characteristic. I believe sexuality is a tool for men as much as women (what, I think with guys with muscles are hot. As long as they don’t have man boobs, seriously, I can’t even look at huge pecs. Gag me). The author is completely right about at least one comment. There are women out there who like assholes. I’ve been friends with a couple of them. I think it’s a little sad, but then, it’s not my life. I can put in my two cents, but at the end of the day, it’s THEIR choice. As a sadly imperfect human, I may feel guilty later about ‘not having done anything’ or ‘I should have been there,’ if something happens, but that’s life.
Last but not least, one the author’s final lines was this:
“Every strong, empowered woman at heart is a scared little child lost in
the woods. She’ll never admit it to herself, but every woman has a
Disney fantasy about some strong man taking her away and becoming her
identity.”
I may not like the way he worded it, but I have to PARTIALLY agree with the sentiment. I think, as we grow up, we all feel a little lost at times. We all have to find, or make, our own identity in this world, and sometimes, a lot of times, that comes in the shape of another person. But that’s just it. I believe the author’s remark is a double-edged sword, and applies to men just as much as to women. Just like the yin-yang, men and women are two halves of the same whole, i.e. humanity. You can’t have one without the other, LITERALLY. Each side contains part of the other within itself. I felt whole once I found my husband. Not so much because he is a man (though that’s nice too. I heart me some nice strong man muscles), but because his is my other half. We complete each other. He has a thing for geometry and leatherworking, I am a student of history and tend to swerve a bit less while driving (he talks with his hands and likes to talk a LOT, even while driving. Hands come of wheel to talk…I don’t think I need to continue). We each have our own strengths and weaknesses, and that’s what makes us work together.
So, no, do not envy a woman’s privileges. Work to attain equality, do not waste your time and effort on a base, unworthy emotion. If you agree that women are naturally inferior, subservient, mindless baby-makers, well, you are entitled to that opinion. I will always work to change it, and that is my business. If you disagree, do so with integrity and good humor. If you want to change people’s beliefs, screaming at them rarely seems to work. Even modern Christians have stopped burning people at the stake and instead donate to charity organizations, or run them. Calm reasoning will always be a more effective tool than hastily thrown insults.
Hm lets see, I wonder who wrote those poems you were analyzing in high school English. GASP! God forbid, was it a woman? A woman with eloquent, vivacious, intelligent, and worldly thoughts? How can this be? How can Sylvia Plath think independently while being a woman? How can Tennessee Williams become a legend of modern drama without having a penis? I hope you taste my acrid sarcasm. I hope you also recognize the fact that progress only occurs when there is diversity in thinking, and therefore diversity in the human experience. Including woman. Without different perspectives, a culture can not thrive. Not in politics, not in art, not in innovation, not in economy, not in any aspect of modern society. Imagine, if you can, a world where woman were still treated as merely child bearers and nothing more. A whole world of thought, discussion, perspective and innovation would be lost. I know I am not going to change your mind because you seem very stubborn so I guess what I took a whole paragraph to write is this: Fuck you.
In honor of a voice for all the ladies out there, and upon your desire to [apparently] get a reaction, I have reluctantly decided to post this. Might I state that I cannot fathom what it is like to be in that brainwashed mind of you all. After reading various scum-filled articles dehumanizing women, I have made the appropriate conclusion that this website consists solely of reprehensible dishonorable boys.
No, I am not angry, nor frustrated one bit. What I am though, is beyond disgusted and ashamed of the appearance you create of men. Might you place this under the title of ‘satire’ or ‘dark humor’ your posts still remain an insult to humanity as a whole, men and women alike. But mostly men, in the ignorant postings about the inferiority of women, you make manhood look compliant to the stereotypical asshole. Which, you have each proved to be.
Might I shed a piece of advice to you people who call yourselves “men”. You are no more masculine dehumanizing another person. You are no more dominant listing the downfalls of the opposite sex. You are no more superior, intelligent or of any higher-ranking than any other person, whatever your image of yourself is. So my advice? Grow up, work to better this world, benefit and uplift others, instead of discouraging those. For Christ’s sake, find a new hobby.
If he were superior, it would show. He would not need to externalize his fears. I may slide this article to a psychologist I know and see what she makes of it.
Judging only on his own words he clearly resents being subject to judgments by people who deem him inferior. His social commentary is so wholly inaccurate as to only serve as a reference to his inner concerns rather than an actual attempt to define social ills.
For example more women are graduating college, more women are caring responsible single parents.
His world is to reality ad pornogrophy is to sex. A pale shallow and joyless excuse to jerk himself off.
Spot on.
Sounds like truth to me. Women operate solely by their emotions. This is why man was created first and the woman was created for the man. Men are supposed to lead you. But, being rebellious like Eve, women have caused their own downfall.
This downfall was caused by women being lost within themselves. When you have a modern society telling women that they have no worth unless they act like men, confusion runs rampant.
Sounds like to me that you can’t handle the truth. Make excuses & cry & whine about how men are evil all you want, it doesn’t change the biblical basis for all our problems.
“Solely by their emotions” Oh how laughable this statement is! Yes, it can be argued women are more emotional than men because that is the way most women are built, and it is not a bad thing. But is there not some type of conscious, logical decision making involved in this “operation” Yes.
God made woman as a partner for man. “Later, the LORD God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make the woman to be an authority corresponding to him.” Genesis 2:18 (ISV) Each persons were created and loved equally.
And yet, you are wrong again. This downfall was caused by Satan’s temptation and thus in response, the fruit of knowledge was eaten from – by both Adam and Eve.
And what truth do you present? A biased standpoint simply upheld by haughty inaccuracies. You may want to brush up on your Biblical facts.
And not once did I say “men are evil”. I am bringing to light the condescending message these specific men on this website are presenting.
Better luck next time.
“I will make the woman to be an authority corresponding to him.”
In your feminist version of course it does……
I’m sure your feminist bible states this. It’s full of shit however.
The truth I present is actual truth. Eve ate the apple first and Adam was too much of a pussy to stand up to his wife and tell her no, you won’t eat the apple. Satan preyed on Eve first because it’s easier to bring the woman down because of her (wait for it) EMOTIONS. this is the KJV, the actual version. The woman is also stated to be the weaker vessel and as such she is to be taken care of.
You need to read a real bible and learn actual truth instead of hearing what they want your hear.
Sounds like sexual frustration to me.
“To hold women to the same standard as men is the greatest discrimination.”
Indeed.
Oopsie daisy it looks like someone tried to remove my comment. I have no idea why that could be, perhaps it is because you felt threatened? Maybe because there was a bit of truth to it? Maybe because you are too astounded by the fact that a woman actually said something against you and your belief, in a somewhat cohesive fashion, contrary to your overwhelming belief that women are incapable of intelligent speech? But oh that’s right how could a woman ever come close to threatening the unbreakable shield of masculinity? Now it was a while ago that I made a comment, so I don’t remember all of what it said. But I have other things to add. 1) You are pathetic. 2) Have you actually ever been in a relationship with a woman? If so, how’s that working out for you? Not well I assume, because you know absolutely nothing about women. Now regarding your pathetic state. You make your sexist remarks behind a screen because I think deep down you realize that if you said these things in public, you would be ridiculed. So you hide behind the wall of the internet. And that is pathetic. What is also pathetic is your need to tear women down because of your own insecurities. You didn’t do well in high school English? Why not accept the fact that maybe English isn’t your best subject instead of blaming a whole half of the world’s population for your own failures. You want to oppress women? Fine. (Know that we will fight back though). I don’t care. But if anything, please accept the fact that the reason you are doing so has nothing to do with the competence of a certain gender, but everything to do with your own psyche. Go get a shrink, work out your mommy issues, then come fight me.
this site is filled with sexist male pigs, lol. we are definitley not at an advantage compared to men, feminism exists in first world countries only because of ignorant assholes like you who think women are inferior. However, in third world countries women are DEFINITELY oppressed, and we should be paying more attention to these issues
You are sad, sad people.
I’m sorry you feel that you need to do this to feel better about yourself.
And I’m sorry you have had such bad experiences with women.