12 Great Quotes From The Landmark Thucydides

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1.

Athens’ biggest worry was the sheer recklessness of its own democratic government. A simple majority of the citizenry, urged on and incensed by clever demagogues, might capriciously send out military forces in unnecessary and exhausting adventures. [Written by the editor]

2.

The Peloponnesian War turns out to be no dry chronicle of abstract cause and effect. No, it is above all an intense, riveting, and timeless story of strong and weak men, of heroes and scoundrels and innocents too, all caught in the fateful circumstances of rebellion, plague, and war that always strip away the veneer of culture and show us for what we really are. [Written by the editor]

3.

Men’s indignation, it seems, is more excited by legal wrong than by violent wrong; the first looks like being cheated by an equal, the second like being compelled by a superior.

4.

In practice we always base our preparations against an enemy on the assumption that his plans are good; indeed, it is right to rest our hopes not on a belief in his blunders, but on the soundness of our provisions. [Archidamus]

5.

Capital, it must be remembered, maintains a war more than forced contributions. Farmers are a class of men that are always more ready to serve in person than in purse. Confident that the former will survive the dangers, they are by no means so sure that the latter will not be prematurely exhausted, especially if the war last longer than they expect, which it very likely will. [Pericles]

6.

For men can endure to hear others praised only so long as they can severally persuade themselves of their own ability to equal the actions recounted: when this point is passed, envy comes in and with it incredulity. [Pericles]

7.

Again, your country has a right to your services in sustaining the glories of her position. These are a common source of pride to you all, and you cannot decline the burdens of empire and still expect to share its honors. You should remember also that what you are fighting against is not merely slavery as an exchange for independence, but also loss of empire and danger from the animosities incurred in its exercise. [Pericles]

8.

In [the diplomacy] contest the blunter wits were most successful. Apprehensive of their own deficiencies and of the cleverness of their antagonists, they feared to be worsted in debate and to be surprised by the combinations of their more versatile opponents, and so at once boldly had recourse to action: while their adversaries, arrogantly thinking that they should know in time, and that it was unnecessary to secure by action what policy could provide, often fell victims to their lack of precaution.

9.

…for it is a habit of mankind to entrust to careless hope what they long for, and to use sovereign reason to thrust aside what they do not desire.

10.

Few indeed have been the large armaments, either Hellenic or barbarian, that have gone far from home and been successful. They cannot be more numerous than the people of the country and their neighbors, whom fear unites; and if they fail for want of supplies in a foreign land, to those against whom their plans were laid they nonetheless leave renown, although they may themselves have been the main cause of their own discomfort. Thus these very Athenians rose by the defeat of the Persians, in a great measure due to accidental causes, from the mere fact that Athens had been the object of his attack. [Hermocrates, predicting Athenian defeat in Sicily]

11.

I do not consider that I am now attacking a country that is still mine; I am rather trying to recover one that is mine no longer; and the true lover of his country is not he who consents to lose it unjustly rather than attack it, but he who longs for it so much that he will go to all lengths to recover it. [Alcibiades]

12.

When men are one checked in what they consider their special excellence, their whole opinion of themselves suffers more than if they had not at first believed in their superiority, the unexpected shock to their pride causing them to give way more than their real strength warrants. [Gylippus]

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9 thoughts on “12 Great Quotes From The Landmark Thucydides”

  1. I read the penguin classics version as an undergrad… then again, and again, 3 times in one semester (twice for fun). That was at Annapolis 12 years ago; I still have the book, I need to read it again.

  2. I read the penguin classics version as an undergrad… then again, and again, 3 times in one semester (twice for fun). That was at Annapolis 12 years ago; I still have the book, I need to read it again.

  3. I read the penguin classics version as an undergrad… then again, and again, 3 times in one semester (twice for fun). That was at Annapolis 12 years ago; I still have the book, I need to read it again.

  4. Love the classics, love the lessons for today that roosh seems able to divine from them.
    More please.

  5. Reading this just reminds me of why I love the ROK website so much. Bloody awesome. Where else in one place can you find Thucydides discussed alongside with articles on sex? Love it, love it, love it.

  6. He is absolutely right on the part about men getting angry over INJUSTICE. A masculinized brain is disgusted when there is an impeaching of a contract. Most men are not upset by duty, by hardwork, by losing in a fair game. Most females have no self respect and allow certain things to go on but appear to have complete and utter anger to some of the most nonsensical things. Yet another reason to shift the tide of power.

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