Recently, Helen Smith published the book Men On Strike to much fanfare. The book discusses some of the challenges men face in our society. In response, some men noted that when a woman speaks up for men, she garners more respect than she would have if she were a man. Others said that if a woman can bring greater visibility and credibility, then she has value beyond merely the truth of their arguments.
It’s possible to sympathize with both sides – I do. In a sense, the two sides are talking past each other – one is concerned with merit, the other with tactics. And to originate an idea is not enough – spreading it is just as urgent. But the merits of Smith’s work aside, the phenomenon is undeniable: who are these men that pipe up excitedly just because a woman has taken up their cause? Why do they do it?
The Slave
A man gives undue respect to someone when he himself is not whole. He looks for someone to complete him, someone to whom he can attach himself. He does not trust his own mind, so he yearns for someone of even greater conviction, for a Joan of Arc to which to bond himself. Fundamentally, he is a slave. He needs a master to allay his fears, to assure him that he is on the right path. He is like a child that makes a show of running ahead of his father, yet keeps looking back to make sure father is still close behind.
These submissive men are everywhere. They believe only what is socially acceptable. If all the truth in the world points to an impolitic conclusion, he will run from truth. He waits for a big figure to sally forth, so that he can stand in its shadow and cheerlead, safe in the knowledge that he isn’t alone. He may listen to your arguments and show no disagreement or skepticism. But his fear of being alone keeps him silent.
The Master
Compare with the man made whole, the master. He does not look to others for validation, when he believes he has settled on the truth. After all, what does it matter what others say, if the truth is on your side? It doesn’t. Most men of this cast look indifferent even – he may consider it beneath him to herd sheep into believing the truth. He can come off as elitist and esoteric. He lives not by lies and that is enough for him. He keeps a few men as close friends, whom he trusts to think freely and reasonably. Otherwise, he knows most people are beyond reason, so he considers it fruitless to try and change them.
When he does encounter credible arguments, he applauds the author for teaching him something. Insofar as credit is due, the identity of the author doesn’t matter – only the strength of the author’s wisdom matters.
A Slave in Paradise
The Fear Of Being Alone
But there’s an additional, sexual dimension. We live in an age where men are told that true love means committing to a woman who is your best friend. Her qualities as wife and mother? Irrelevant, antiquated and sexist. And the slaves believe this whole-heartedly.
But men and women are different. They have different tastes and pastimes, even in this age of androgyny. So the slave is constantly on the lookout for the few women who share his interests, be they spectator sports, videogames or powerlifting.
Deep down, he fears women who are different from him. In his heart of hearts, he believes that a woman will only want him when he proves that he is identical to her. He has no value, he offers nothing. He is putty in the hands of a woman, ever ready to conform to her will, because he’s always anxious to show how same and equal he is.
He can’t fathom a woman liking him if she doesn’t like World of Warcraft. That’s his only hook. When he finds a like-minded woman, he yelps for joy. He salivates, “I’ve found her! My soulmate!” If her interest in his hobby wanes, it follows, her interest in him is sure to wane too. He is in constant fear that she will change and leave him.
He is so lonely, because so few women show any similarity to him. So he feels he can’t afford to pass up any opportunities to find his match. He placates every woman that crosses his path, in the hopes that she’ll appreciate what they have in common – which, in his figuring, is what makes her like him. He refuses to believe that masculinity, that force of character, has any role. So if he fails, it’s because he didn’t ape her enough.
Parenthetically, I’ve met many such women with male interests. To a woman, they all disdain this man. She mentions that she enjoys say, physics, only to get a deluge of try-hard men talking up Hans Bethe, so she regrets ever mentioning it.
Woman Unmans Lesser Men
Nowadays, men are desperately scared of being tarred as a homosexual or a failure with women – there are even men who will not have dinner with just one other man, because that would look too much like a date. When socializing, he may have three male friends with him, but he’ll stare attentively at the one girl there. Whenever she speaks, everyone else is on mute.
Get to know a man made whole, and you will find a different take on the role of women in his life. He accepts that men and women are different; he looks to women for what he can’t get from a man – her dissimilarity is a virtue, not a vice. She is valuable insofar as she is feminine and unlike a man. Perhaps she has some interest in common with him, as in philosophy or the arts, and that is welcome. But that’s icing on the cake, because those needs are already met through his relationships with men. He doesn’t care if other people think he’s gay because he prefers the company of men. He frees himself from the petty expectations of others.
Ask people what they think of these two types of men, the master and the slave. Undoubtedly, the master would be deemed a misogynist and a sexist, for not wanting or letting a woman be his peer and equal. In truth, it’s the slave who despises a woman, who so taxes her spirit. While the master is content to let a woman relax into her feminine self, the slave wants her to be all things to him all at once: best friend, parent of his children, spouse, advisor, protector, counselor. Little wonder when she starts to feel overwhelmed and masculinized. She starts to see the man as a child, unwilling to take control. The independent woman will cluck about equality when it is precisely inequality that satisfies her.
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I’m glad that my actions in the last year or so are closer to the Master description than in the past when I was a textbook example of the slave category. It’s good to finally see some progress on my journey towards becoming a better man.
Same.
Herding sheep to the truth is pretty simple…just make up a bunch of fabricated stories to put into their head of wanting your truth. All day they think about your truth…and try to get you alone to discuss it more.
Then once the sheep feel your truth…sometimes in a bathroom, or in a bedroom, or in a car…they realize they can’t handle it. So you better make sure you put a lie wrapper around it…or she takes the precaution of having her daily lie pill. Heck why not sever your own truth and make it easy for all of them to live a lie.
Herding sheep to the truth is pretty simple…just point a gun at them. All slaves follow only power. To the slave power and truth are inseparable.
I do like to point my gun at pretty sheep.
I am satisfied to be a master. Let the drones do as they do.
For this Master breed of men, at least in the US, usually means living alone, somewhat as an outcast. Most of the population is blue pill, as are about 99% of females in the US.
Women don’t like outcasts, they like the pack, they like the leader of the pack. Master or not, until you lead a pack you won’t be getting laid. Becoming a Master is step 1, and step 2 is being the master of others.
False. Some women only want men who are socially vetted, but plenty others will go for the bold and mysterious lone wolf. Optimal niches will differ for the pack leader and the lone wolf.
Agreed: False.
Agreed, false.
This “leader of men” fallacy/excuse needs to be eradicated once and for all in the manosphere. Many PUAs have observed higher success rates without a wingman let alone a “pack”.
That’s right. Although being a leader can help, you are better a lone wolf than the leader of a bunch of losers.
Reminds me of old Bob Goldthwaite joke:
When I took the SAT it made me realize that 99 percent of the people in the United States scored higher than I did. But I would like to meet that one percent that scored lower. We could hang out. I could be their leader.
Being the master of others means being their slave.
I’m sort of new to this stuff and I’ve never thought about it this way . The line “it’s the slave who despises a woman” really struck me, it makes a lot of sense when I consider it in light of my previous failed romances. I’m seeing the light more and more these
days but these kind of honest and blunt articles are extremely helpful.
“In truth, it’s the slave who despises a woman, who so taxes her spirit.”
Master acknowledges the differences between the genders and offers women the freedom of expression.
Slave is the idiot who thinks we’re the same
Correct. And not only does the slave think we are all the same, but he pressures those around him to be the same. He supposedly favors diversity but he keeps company only with facisimiles of himself.
Some keen observations here. I would add my own tidbit: in the Roman theatrical comedies of Plautus and Terence, the slave was a stock character in nearly every comedy. And without exception, the slave was always presented as the most intelligent, witty, cunning, and “alpha” of all the characters.
Evidently, one should not automatically equate “slave” with “beta”.
The last shall be first and the first shall be last.
Some people are slaves because they are too dumb to realize how they got there…some people are slaves to fly under the radar of the big boys.
You are correct about the cunning slaves in Plautus and Terence. It is important to remember, though, that they probably became slaves as a result of debt and war, while there is such a thing as a slave by nature (vide Aristotle).
Isso certo, cara. Point well taken.
In essence I believe the slave and the master are divided by lines of certainty and uncertainty. The master is sure of himself and his actions. The slave is uncertain, lacking confidence, not understand his place and role. By the master’s dominance and the slave’s willing submission the master instills a sense of certainty and purpose within the slave.
Per my ignorance, nothing to add here, except that Spartacus led an epic slave revolt, and it was masterfully brought to life by Charlton Heston in the eponymous film.
Been meaning to tell you, Emmanuel, I enjoy your articles. Mischievous, acute, relevant, and Machiavellian…you’ve chosen your avatar well.
(And in this article, I was laughing my ass off at the photo above entitled “A Slave in Paradise”, with the dork getting his neck scissored by the dominatrix. Good touch of humor!)
I was going to put an ‘off-color’ caption for the last photo, but I relented 😉
You mean Kirk Douglas, of course. Great film.
Yup, I stand corrected.
As long as we have fractional reserve banking and fiat, 99.9% of us are slaves. Sorry to trot out what has become a lazy and all to common meme.
In fact, the unemployed also enslave us through welfare, in the same way any paying taxpayers enslave the unemployed through paying taxes and maintaining the welfare system, rather than let it collapse so a real solution can be found. So I guess we are all the master and we are all the slave. Crazy times, huh?
The banking system fuckin’ sucks. You always say the same thing in different ways and I think this is good.
The bankers can print money at will and create wealth. What the fuck is that? And when they feel there is too much money coming out from their printing machines, they create artificial financial crises and economic recessions, people lose their jobs, savings and pensions and the banks are happy to take away their houses and cars.
The solution to this is turning your own extended family into a credit system. No interest and no collateral plus flexible payment terms.
There are ways to fight back. Very astute ways. But we gotta learn to cooperate and trust each other first.
The complexity of the system is no match to the simplicity of more egalitarian forms of organization.
And no, I did not forget it:
Long live @[email protected]!
The bankers qua bankers can’t do squat. It’s the government that is the cause.
Roosh et al:
Keep up these kinds of articles. They are life changing.
This site being free is a work of mercy.
Fabulous article, and I was glad to see someone pointed out having a Master mentality.
Due to the immense social pressures placed on us by the conformists in our society (über-conformist SJs are about 40-60% of the population if you are into personality types) I think all men question their belief systems from time to time. But this line sums up how I tend to think about things, “He knows most people are beyond reason, so he considers it fruitless to try and change them.” I’ve had to learn to accept it’s not my responsibility to herd sheep into believing the truth, no matter how grating it is to watch their behavior. And…
“He can come off as elitist and esoteric.” I know this is the case with one of my friends because he likes to make subtle jabs at manosphere ideas I’ve talked with him about. So, I probably should stop trying to make him see the light and focus on other friends who already see it. I already know that I can’t talk about these things with the average idiot on the street, but if someone has potential I try and at least discuss some of these ideas with them, if nothing else to create a dialogue.
Too true man. Although it wasn’t verbalized these most of these concepts were just intuitively understood by people pre-1960s…
Yes, after that all people suddenly became “equal” because of the influence of that rotten ideology, “egalitarianism”.
Hahahahahaha
I take it these two posts, this one and the one before it on ROK are aimed at the woman from the UK with such wondrous compliments about us all?
Awesome, nothing says alpha like replying to a worthless harpy grandstanding like agreeing with her in parody. Except one.
Actually showing she is right, and laughing in her face about it.
Nope, the whole ‘slave’ thing is a coincidence that I discovered this morning.
This article was inspired by discussion of the treatment of female voices in the manosphere.
No matter, still a great read. In all probability it is likely true. At least some truth to it, as woman want a man they can be submissive to. Who takes the lead.
Even if it is a pipe dream, I don’t think so; it was still a great read. Thanks.
“He is so lonely, because so few women show any similarity to him.”
This point you touch upon is one of the biggest problems that betas get themselves into when they look for someone. Strong attraction between a man and a woman is about polarity. Opposites attract. It’s unfortunate that men use interests as a crutch to game women who are into the same thing. This happens because of laziness and an inability to understand what women want when they are being courted.
Interests and hobbies are the main dominion of men. They have evolved throughout history with the ability to specialize and focus on anything, as a means of resource gathering and survival. Women are naturally social. They have no need to be “geeks” because they have relied on men those abilities to the table. Besides, those traits are generally useless in regards to child rearing and forming familial and social circles. In fact, such behavior is inherently antisocial because you have to isolate yourself in order to concentrate. This is why women have and will always stay away from nerds.
Alpha males on the other hand can both focus and socialize. Their focus gives them status and resources and they are able to navigate through a social hierarchy. A good example of this is team sports like football. You log in hours and hours of practice and you learn social skills by working in a tight knit group the entire time.
So when thinking about you hobbies and interests in the context of a pickup, think about it this way; if you were someone else that doesn’t share that interest how would it affect you socially and emotionally? If there is little to none of either of those, then the woman you are talking to will be bored and even annoyed.
Thank you.
I was just explaining this very subject to my brother not to long ago. He said the girl he dug was like him : like a guy and loved games, sex and being crazy and etc etc. I said these women are a dime a dozen, and nothing is special about them. I don’t want a woman with my habits. I want one that compliments my problems with solutions and vise versa. Men who like masculine women are indeed idiots and slaves. My brother has learned this now. I want a woman better than me in many areas. In the areas she is supposed to be. I dont want a brash, outspoken, alcoholic woman as my “equal” or some horse shit. i want a quiet, feminine, sensitive, loving, caring woman. i dont want her to like fixing cars. i dont want her to be able to out lift me. A lot of men dont get these things and for doing so they will be miserable.
I hope you told your brother he was gay.
Of course.
I’m not gay………….. but my boyfriend is.
Maybe the greatest advantage of being an introvert is not being afraid of being alone, since it’s your default state.
Comfort with solitude is chiefly an advantage when surrounded by fools and harpies. Which is an apt description for our circumstances.
Being an introvert is not a bad thing. Most extroverts are socially retarded which allows them to be outgoing because they are too socially unaware to realize how retarded they are.
I like how this is something of a re-appraisal of the nature of the alpha-beta disparity. We repeat those terms so often that it’s easy to forget the mentalities and habits that underpin each respective label, and how deeply they run.
I have a not-so-hidden ‘beta’ reference in there 😉
A master understands women, loves them in his own way only when they’ve earned it and he will be loved back for it.
“In truth, it’s the slave who despises a woman, who so taxes her spirit.
While the master is content to let a woman relax into her feminine
self, the slave wants her to be all things to him all at once: best
friend, parent of his children, spouse, advisor, protector, counselor.”
In other words the master takes responsibility, while the slave wants to be taken care of by a breadwinner woman.
When you read Willie Lynch (A.D. 1712) speech “How To Make a Nigger Slave”, you can only but conclude that slaves are made. They are trained like you train your dog to sit down when you yell “sit”. A human is made of two different sides, ying and yang, male and female, black and white. That duality defines everything around us, and it defines certainly us. You only have to throw one of those components out of balance to be able to mess with a persons ego and will.
The thing I want to say is: it is outside of people their control. You can’t choose to be a master or slave. If you are born a street-child on a pile of trash in Bangladesh there is little chance you can become a man who controls his own life. Slaves naturally hate the thing that threw them off-balance and hence makes him controllable. Mastery relies on two things: training and supply of power. If you don’t have that: good luck with avoiding slavery.
having been to slums in Bangladesh; I just want to say the men that come from there are less slave-like and more master-like (as described by this article) than many western men.
Can’t two masters be in the same relationship? Why would I, or any guy date a slave?
My girlfriend and I have been together for quite a while and both of us complement each other. We have some similar interests, we are both professional scientists and experts in our respected fields, and we have introduced each other to our various passions–to become closer and make what we already liked to do even more exciting.
Come on, you can’t tell me that when you’re out there fixing your car and your girlfriend joins you to help and you spend an hour teaching her all of the innerworkings, and when you get frustrated on a part that won’t work she helps you brainstorm and then you figure something out and she swoons as she watches you use your mastery to complete the job–you can’t tell me that’s not great. You can’t tell me that’s not hot.
Something about using those differences and not glorifying one over the other makes the relationship work.
I’ve never been one for flings. They seem pointless to me. If this girl is the one I can wake up to every morning for the rest of my life–without getting bored, why another girl? Why count notches above a bed?
Such childish attempts at retaining a false sense of masculinity. I am more of a man every morning my love is still there in my bed. Every day I am more with her. I have yet to envy the guys that pick up those girls at the bars. The girls that lack self respect, and the guys that lack respect in general. I don’t miss that. They live life like a competition. Always be the Alpha Apex, always beat down Betas. Always take the girl. Always make the girl your slave.
Why would I want a girl who wishes herself a slave? She would have no depth. Why would I waste my time with a one night stand and a ditz? She deserves a guy who can connect with her both sexually and emotionally. And I deserve a girl that loves herself enough to let me in–a girl that is ambitious and smart, loving, and beautiful, faithful and creative. I deserve a girl that will treat me with respect merely because I am a human… not because “I’m a man.” That XY chromosome makes me no better, but dammit both sexes deserve to find egalitarian love and respect. I won’t settle. No one should. Girl or guy. And I pray these girls you boys have morphed into “sex slaves” come to their senses and embrace their potential in their humanity. And gain some self respect. I’ve found my girl. And I never needed a self-help “game” blog to “get” her.
Anyone can throw away a girl. How many guys successfully keep the good ones?
I look forward to when she is my hot wife that problem solves with me under the hood of my truck or the vent hood in the lab. We love our differences, and we revel in the many ways we complement each other–neither of us greater than the other. Like the yin and yang–balanced and united–we create our life around us. Our life is an adventure. Our future untarnished. Lover, wife, mother, best friend–me, lover, husband, father, best friend and yeah, sometimes debate partner 😉 Got to keep it interesting.
We don’t need each other’s “approval” to know our own truths. That’s where we make note of our differences and relax into the strengths of each other. My girlfriend will be an amazing mother. She just will. I look forward to watching her and working with her. Her focus and her intuition is impeccable. Her feminine warmth and incredible patience. Her assertiveness and her wit. She will look to me to support her–but hell no she’d never ask for validation to make a choice she knew was best. Why would she? She’s her own person! And she would never expect for me to come running to her to “check” about a decision I need to make. If I want her expertise, I go to her. If she wants mine, she comes to me. This is how a relationship works. Mutual benefits. She’s in control of her sphere and I’m in control of mine. When they collide, we support each other. We are there for each other in time of need.
I was looking for more in a woman than her orgasmic power. One night or one week of rockin’ sex and empty head.
I was looking for humanity. I was looking for complement. And I found her. Sexy, creative, intelligent, logical, and feminine. You who take a girl who isn’t your best friend–you boys are missing out. Of course she doesn’t get everything. Of course I have my guys I go to. And she has her girls she goes to.
I wish the best of luck to you guys. I hope you take all of this internet stuff with a grain of salt. Your experiences are your best teacher. Forget all that crap society throws at you. Your game is your own. You play to “win”–and to “bang” may not be how all of you wish to “win.”
Maybe some of you ought consider the concept of getting laid every night by the love of your life for the rest of your life–getting to experience real conversation, and real relationship outside the bedroom–and becoming comfortable enough with each other to creative inside the bedroom.
This 1 girl is boring culture is sickening. I am a Master pro-Man and I would never be anything but an advocate for my Master girlfriend, wife, daughter, or any other respectful woman. That makes me pro-Woman.
I may be bashed right there for being a feminist… but isn’t that exactly what we are calling women to do for us? Be advocates for men and not expect anything above what they expect for themselves?
Food for thought, boys and gents. I wish you do really embrace the thought part.
great post, really.
Nice strawmanning there. I come to this site whenever I need to refresh myself on the common fallacies. Keep up the good work.
IOW, you’re living in denial. It’s ok. Most do.
Just be whatever you want to be. Masculinity in a woman isn’t a bad thing. Neither is femininity in a man. I don’t get the need to put people in boxes. Just let people be who they want to be. Fucking shit, this site is garbage.