A few nights ago, Katie Vyktoriah started getting her son Dexter ready for a trip to Wal-Mart:
After struggling to get him dressed and get his shoes on, I had to pry an overlarge teddy bear out of Dexter’s arms, as he was set on taking him with us. This brought on tears and tantrums, which I somehow managed to calm very quickly. But when I attempted to remove my discarded lace flower headband from his head (which he’d been wearing all day), I saw him getting ready to fight, so I left him to it…
The fact that he was wearing a cute girly headband made him feel good, and he was charming all the old ladies by waving like a little pageant prince.
Dexter
Suddenly, a voice rings out:
Out of nowhere a big booming voice rang out. “THAT’S a BOY?!” The man was overly large with a bushy beard and a camouflage shirt with the arms cut off. He had tattered shorts and lace-up work boots with no laces. I could smell the fug of cigarette smoke surrounding him, and there was a definite pong of beer on him.
“Yes,” I said simply, still smiling.
With no notice, the man stepped forward, grabbed the headband off of Dexter’s head and threw it to the bottom of our shopping cart. He then cuffed Dexter around the side of his head (not hard, but that is not the point) and said with a big laugh, “You’ll thank me later, little man!”
At the same time as I stepped forward, Dexter grabbed his head where the man had smacked him and threw his other hand forward, stomping his foot and shouting, “NO!” I got between my son and this man and said very firmly, “If you touch my son again, I will cut your damn hands off.”
The guy snarled at me, looked at Dexter with disgust and said, “Your son is a f*cking fa***t.” He then started sauntering out, but not before he threw over his shoulder, “He’ll get shot for it one day.”
In a time when our sons are showered with praise for dressing like little girls, Walmart Man saunters onto the field of battle, defiant in tone, astir with conviction. He suffers no doubt as he walks the path of the righteous. His attire is plebeian, yet his virtue is regal. His actions recall the story of David; instead of one awesome enemy, however, his opponents are many and diffuse.
Artistic Rendering of Walmart Man
Vyktoriah (great stripper name by the way) is but one of millions of jezebels roaming the nation, unleashed from any masculine authority. She may have pledged her undying obedience to a man, but a master cannot obey his own slave. Her wedding vows are immaterial abstractions, when paired with the reality of a spineless husband. Like a mother who eats her own children, she arrays her son for sexual failure, for contempt in the eyes of his peers and his romantic prospects. At the meager age of two, indignity has befallen him already, as teenage girls stand by and laugh at him.
Vyktoriah has never known this failure on a regular basis. She has never known the sting of sexual rejection that any man of action faces daily. Living in America, she never had to be feminine to secure a lover.
Based on her own experience as a woman in America, she assumes the same is true for men – that her son need not be masculine to attract women. Girls strut about, their skin mired in tattoos, with profanities effortlessly rolling off their tongues. As monks would cut their hair short in their devotion to Christ or Buddha, the modern woman shaves her head in her devotion to pleasing only herself. Yet she has no shortage of suitors, who wait obediently at her beck and call.
The same is true for men, she assumes – men need not do anything to attract the opposite sex. If even women, the oppressed sex, needn’t aim to please to get what they want, then men should be even more free from sexual expectation. That he can prance about in dresses and suffer no pain for it, as girls do with their flip flops and pierced septums, is her fatal conceit. She cannot imagine that leaving her son free to embrace effeminacy will actually imprison him. From there, there is no easy escape. He is “destined to exist as a social outcast,” just as Robert Oscar Lopez was, after being raised by two lesbians.
I stood there, shaking, fists clenched, waiting for the man to disappear out the door, and then I fell apart. I was shaking so hard, holding back tears and comforting Dexter.
Not a single person said or did anything. There were several people who had witnessed the encounter, but not one of them came over to offer support or console me or my son.
She stands, shaken and angry, that no white knight sallies forth to console her after her confrontation with Walmart Man.
Not long ago, I was sitting in a stranger’s household, socializing with a group of young professionals and their families. I knew none of them. We were playing a board game, one notably bereft of aggression, and one which every nerd loves. I was alone in despising it, but I was a stranger in a strange land, with nothing better to do that evening. One player was the mother of a young boy – her, chubby, shapeless. She had only long hair to signify her status as a female. And her son was hopping about in furry hot pink slippers. Even strippers are not so gauche.
His mother remarked contentedly about his slippers, about how ‘cute’ they were as the women about cooed with approval. The males, fathers and colleagues, smiled wanly in approval. Inside, I was livid – “why does she delight in making her son look like a flaming little bitch?” In retrospect, I wish I’d said something, like “oh, he’d look right at home in the Castro in San Francisco.” This instinct, to castrate and emasculate one’s own sons is increasingly common among American mothers.
The head creative director of J. Crew did so, painting her son’s toenails pink, in an ad campaign for her company. Later, Jenna Lyons would go on to divorce the father of her son, and marry a woman. Lyons’ face is bereft of any softness or even humanity – frankly, she looks like a dead alien. Her lesbian paramour is not much of an improvement.
The response is always the same – “it looks so cuuuute on him!” Why do these mothers enjoy making their sons look like “faggots?” The old stereotype of Jewish mothers may apply – it’s to keep them from leaving home and falling in love with a woman who isn’t his mother.
There are those who would call Walmart Man a homophobe. Quite the opposite. Imagine seeing a delicious looking bowl of fruit, only to find out they were fake and made of wax. You’d feel cheated. This is precisely the fate which Walmart Man is trying to prevent – an effeminate male prancing around, coaxing faygeles into thinking he likes men when he doesn’t. After all, everyone hates a cocktease. He doesn’t want Dexter getting ‘shot’ after blue-balling a bear. Walmart Man has this little boy’s best interests at heart, more than even Dexter’s own mother.
Walmart Man has brought great honor upon himself his family. For his valor and courage, he has earned himself a hallowed position in our inaugural Hall Of Kings, an honorarium for men who fight for beauty, truth and justice.
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Subsequent investigation has shown her story is fabricated and she is a loon. More single mom attention whoring on the interwebs.
Yep, so after the cats, the wine, the lies, the pills, the grrrrllll powar and the attention whoring………what was my point?
Here’s to hoping that Wal Mart Man is real after all, if only in our conscience
memo to self:Have Ridley Scott sent the first pic for Promethius sequel inspiration and the second pic to Alan Tayor for the inevitable and shark jumping Thor’s sister subplot
That’s what I figured too. Sounds too much like the perfect victim vs perfect villain scenario that appeals so much to these SWPL types.
The real question is, what compels people to make up stories like this? In the absence of “oppression”, they fabricate some just to bitch and moan?
it is trendy…
We live in a world where everyone is competing to be the biggest loser…thus the biggest winner and unassailable to scrutiny.
This will only last as long as the money does. When that is gone these poor innocent victims will gladly eat their own children then give up their lifestyle to which we all know they are entitled to right?
Victim/Attention Vortex.
Hysterical….she made it up?! They are getting sicker by the say. bernard chapin had one today about a woman making her a fake facebook account and stalking herself….that’s pretty desperate for attention…
Fake?! Holy shit!
I shouldn’t be surprised that the whole incident was a perverse fantasy. Everywhere I look these days, it seems like people are becoming even more absorbed in what I call “Narrative Reality” — the collection of imaginary bogeymen and heroes rattling around inside people’s heads.
It’s everywhere. I can’t have a discussion about health care without some prisoner of Narrative Reality calling me a racist.
Maybe it’s a saturation effect of the Internet on society, but there seems to be a large and growing segment of society that has little or no connection to the real world.
Damn, for a second there I thought there was someone who actually stood up against child abusing mothers in Walmart.
“Lyons’ face is bereft of any softness or even humanity – frankly, she looks like a dead alien.”
hilarious and so true!
God, both of them sends chills of horror up my spine, and then another when I realized that a man married, and had a son with that thing.
haha! what a spineless man-cunt he must be.
Maybe he has vision problems, you insensitive jerk!
Hahaahahahah, or balls are missing problems. I don’t think he is insensitive, just those of us who are red pill must be cruel to be kind!
That last picture had me crying. So true though, she failed to see that walmart man probably earned the respect of those who didn’t help her.
anyone else think that this “walmart man,” as depicted, looks slightly gay himself? like one of those disgusting biker gays?!
i DISagree with most of my RoK brethren about the causes of homosexuality – i accept the argument submitted by biologists / animal behaviorists that most mammalian species have a small percentage of homosexual members.
but i agree that our ever-fucked up society glorifies this lifestyle, and fucks up the development of many boys.
Quintus: i’m curious to read your opinion on this matter.
That’s not the real man, that’s just some picture I ripped off the net.
Yeah he looks homo
I can’t understand why anyone would willingly push their kid towards homosexuality. It’s one thing if later in life that’s what they turn out to be, but dressing boys like little girls, painting their toenails, and purposely making them effeminate is absolute child abuse. A little boy shouldn’t have to act like a little girl in order to be loved and accepted.
In the Iliad, Achilles’ mother tries to make him a woman so he won’t leave to fight in the Trojan war where he will meet his death. Of course, the plan fails because Achilles cannot deny his true nature.
that’s probs because he is a man and not a woman??? trying to force a gender he doesn’t id with and trying to make him behave in traditionally effeminate ways are two radically different things…
Ever noticed these types of girls whom treat their beta orbiters like toys, even more so than your average women? It’s the same principle at play here. The child is nothing more than a prop to extend the woman’s fantasies/ego.
It’s not that they “willingly push their kid towards homosexuality.” I think this blog post is wrong in this respect.
It’s that they’re trying to neuter the masculinity out of their boys. There is a difference. Gay men might not like women, but many of them are more masculine than the girly-boys we see these days. My guess is if one of these SWPL women had a gay son like Jack Donovan or one of the more aggressively flamboyant gays I know, she’d have ten fits.
The idea is not to create gay men, but to raise obedient eunuchs who will follow marching orders from their feminist mothers and teachers.
I didn’t say that these mothers were raising their sons to be homosexual, just effeminate. Thus my point about false advertising towards the end.
I was replying to the commenter LC, whose words I quoted, not your original post.
Too true. What these people really oppose is masculinity. They are even offended by the notion that there is any such thing in a biological sense. To them it’s all “Socialized” – boys act a certain way only because thats how they are taught to behave. Any innate traits of males and females are immediately dismissed. Assertiveness, independence, aggression, competition, hierarchy, physicality, boldness, and courage are manly virtues. What the Greeks called Andromeda. To the feminasties those traits are whats wrong with everything in the world and yet paradoxically they want women to act more like men, and men to act more like women. The end result of their “equality” would be a politically correct society of androgynous drones marching to the same tune.
not really though??? men surrounded by violence against women are way more likely to be violent towards women later in life. kids learn from the adults in their lives. it;s how they learn etiquette, it’s how they learn to speak, it’s how they learn everything. plus if you’re arguing the “natural” traits or w/e then it could be argued that some women are born aggressive and courageous and some men are born gentle and mild-mannered.
it isn’t opposing masculinity to not want your child beaten by a stranger, it;s opposing crazy shitheads who think it’s okay to hit kids.
Don’t think all women are doing it on purpose single mothers tend to feminize most of their property and safe space. Women feel happy feminizing themselves which leads them to thibk everyone likes to get feminized and living in a girl safe zone that’s why they feminize their sons. Pink handguns, girly drinks or like putting bows on their pet dogs the same way they put bows on their son, they care more about their happiness than their sons
Because trendy white feminists buy into every stupid little concept that comes out of the social justice cesspools without actually thinking about it.
If I make my son dress like a boy, and he turns out to be gay/trans, he’ll be SCARRED FOR LIFE!
This is what the dipshits actually believe. These are the same types who think their kid is a future transgender just because he wanted to wear a dress or something. They enforce that ambiguous identity under the presumption of being “open-minded”. If you tell them their kid might just be curious and not assuming gender normality may confuse him, they call you a hater.
Unless you’re pulling some abusive religious fundamentalist shit on your kid, he’ll just grow up and find his own way. I’m gay, was raised like a boy, and look how I turned out: Flawless.
Hey there, I am a white feminist – does that make me dumb? Are feminists always white? Is that why they’re dumb – because they’re white? Or because they’re feminists? Are you racist or just prejudiced against women who want equality for women everywhere? That is, a misogynist. I am just curious. I could call you a dumb, sexist Asian but that probably comes under the banner “hate crime” or “racial abuse”. I also believe it’s every woman’s duty to be a feminist as well as every self-respecting man’s who doesn’t want his daughters to grow up in a man’s world). My gut feeling, however, tells me it’s wrong to dress up a little boy as a girl. It could incite bullying or confusion. Then again, from a philosphical perspective, why is it ok for little girls to dress up as boys – they’re referred to as tom boys – and they don’t tend to turn out as lesbians. Why is it so awful for little boys to be dressed as girls but not the other way around – isn’t that double standards? Or just massively insulting to women?
Most feminists are white. That is a fact. How is it hateful or racist? If he were to state that most slaves in America were black, would that be racist? It’s a fact.
All feminists are dumb. Once again, how is that hateful, sexist or bigoted? Nobody is saying all women are dumb. Just the ones who believe in the feminist ideology are dumb.
Most feminists are white. That is a fact. How is it hateful or racist? If he were to state that most slaves in America were black, would that be racist? It’s a fact.
All feminists are dumb. Once again, how is that hateful, sexist or bigoted? Nobody is saying all women are dumb. Just the ones who believe in the feminist ideology are dumb.
That was true around the time of the suffragettes movement but nowadays feminists are white, black, asian, middle-eastern. It’s a global movement. Any woman (or man) who believes in equality for women is a feminist (that’s right, a man can be a feminist! A lot of men supported the suffragette movement to get women the right to vote). There is nothing dumb about feminism, it requires a bit of intellect to consider the issue at hand and to support it. On the other hand any woman who says she isn’t a feminist clearly doesn’t understand what she’s saying, hasn’t thought it through and is basically ignorant. To say ‘ all feminists are dumb’ is misinformed, ignorant, bogoted, sexist but most of all it is just incredibly thick because it is an unsupported statement.
to be fair there’s lots of v good reasons women don’t id as feminists (such as the momvements history of racism/homophobia/transmisogyny, etc.)
Sadly, Walmart Man seems to have been a figment of this loony bird’s imagination:
http://www.inquisitr.com/892060/mommy-blogger-lied-about-pink-headband-bullying-baker-acted/
Walmart claims they can’t find video of the incident but that doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. Hard to believe as I bet every square foot of WalMart is under video surveillance and certainly everyone going in and out of the store is videotaped. If she provided a description of “the assailant” the detectives would have informed her that nobody matching it was in the store that day.
I have firsthand knowledge of Wal-Mart’s surveillance systems. Not every part of the store is under video surveillance. There are lots of dummy cameras throughout the store and and some cameras are so far away as to be useless for certain incidents.
Well, we better string the accused up by his toe nails and castrate him. Shut up.
“The man was overly large with a bushy beard and a camouflage shirt with the arms cut off. He had tattered shorts and lace-up work boots with no laces.”
There would still be footage of this guy entering and leaving the store around the time she claimed the incident occurred, unless he snuck in through the ceiling.
ROFL, the whole thing was a lie. Man, it amazes me that anyone could doubt the prevalence of false accusations of rape.
I figured this was a hoax. It combined all of the things liberals hate: men, sexual norms, WalMart, rural people. Just another feminist victim fantasy.
The part about him reeking of beer was a real red flag. It wasn’t enough he was an evil “smoker”, he had to be a piss drunk redneck too
As I read over her parable again, there’s one element that leaps off the page as utter fiction —
“not one of them came over to offer support or console me”
That’s the driving force behind this nutball, right there. It’s the combination of (a) injustice, (b) her hurt feelings, (c) a vague and shadowy quasi-menacing threat and (d) the failure of others to coo and fawn over her.
These elements are present in every one of her little victim tales, both Walmart Man and the failed kidnapping attempts.
One thing is for certain — Dexter is fucked for life having a mother like that.
Next question: Is “Dexter” real? Or was he a convenient way to attack men without admitting that the author has a barren womb?
The Walmart Man anecdote has about it the unmistakable stink of bovine feces. I’m disappointed that you would lend credence to such an obviously hyperbolic caricature.
according to the HuffPo link you provided :
Editor’s Note: HuffPost provides a platform for bloggers to share their
thoughts and experiences. In a post published last week, an author
described witnessing an incident that is now being investigated by local
law enforcement. At the blogger’s request, we have removed the post. We
have also confirmed with investigators that they are in contact with
the author.
Yes, I was not aware of this until days after penning the article. While the story is most likely a fabrication, the emasculation of SWPL sons across America, including hers, are very much real.
I haven’t read much of the criticism of Vyktoriah – but I’m sure it hinges largely on the fact that she allegedly lied. But what if she told the truth? Focusing on whether it happened or not is a kind of copout from taking a real stance on sexual perversion.
I agree with you about the feminization of boys. Makes me appreciate my hard-ass patriarchal father with whom I had a contentious relationship. He was pretty much of the “stop acting like a g-damned moron” school.
Back in the early 70s all the young men started sporting shoulder-length hair, a mark of real coolness. I cringe when I think of what I put my parents through.
Even if it’s fabricated, her projecting alone is informative. Particularly the antagonist; he had to be a caricature of Larry the Cable Guy, didn’t he? And he had to use a) violence, and b) a pejorative. Remember, to Feminists, testosterone is a mentally-impairing poison.
Okay so this story may not have been true but I do know moms out there who dress boys in girls clothes etc. I do not actually think the clothing or shoes will do them any harm but in general these mothers are usually women who consider themselves to be feminists and feminist mothering can be questionable. Feminist speak a lot about equality but every single mother who I know who is a feminist (5 in total) wanted girl children more than they wanted boys. This could in general be a female thing though because most non feminists mothers who I know also wanted girls more than boys. Anyway they wanted to raise a feminists girl they say, to do their best to give her an equal chance. I think deep down they know how good the world is to women as opposed to men and that it has nothing to do with raising a feminists girl, if we are really equal then wouldn’t you want to raise a feminists son as well??
Eh well… Most fathers to be usually want boys more than girls. I have heard mothers say that boys are harder to control (not true).
I remember a story in Ithaca,NY about a boy being raised “neutrally” I can’t find it but I will link it if I do. They named the boy “Jill” and he just so happens to wear dresses. It’s interesting that this social “experiment” is never seen with girls being made to do what boys do. All these stories are of little boys.
I think depriving these boys of masculine energy is what causes them to seek it in their relationships.They end up with Dominant overbearing women, or even men unless people buy into the born gay theory. I don’t. I do think a “single mother theory” is more tangible but try to get someone to do a study on that lol.
This guy actually correlates homosexuality with single mother parenting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJGuMEZhxgY
It explains in my own theory homosexuality in the urban/rebellious subculture which is rife with hyper masculinity. It’s shunned yet praised at the same time. This is where you see the women with tats, piercings and etc. The men in these settings grow up hating the abuse (it eventually becomes abuse) placed on them in the home by their mothers and female siblings, then grow up to view other non family women as un-restricted. Hence the violence and callous behavior towards women in those settings. And the need for a masculine entity that they are essentially deprived of in their childhood.
When it comes to masculinity, Women claim to not want it, but at the same time they desperately NEED it. Lesbian couples always have someone who plays the MAN.
I salute the Walmart man. Even if he was a fake entity used to push an agenda.
You know in day cares here for toddler aged kids some of them as a form of policy give girls traditionally boy toys (like lego) and boys traditionally girl toys (like dolls) all because of feminists complaints? And I have seen this play out. Every morning the daycare people in a day care I used to help out at gave the boys dolls and fake prams and pots and pans etc. and the girls trucks and lego pieces, within 5 to 10 mins after this most of the boys were playing with legos and trucks and most of the girls were pushing around prams. Every morning.
It is true that more studies on raising children and the effects of fathers as role models etc. need to be done. But it is much easier for society to pat all parents on the back and say all parenting is good parenting. What is your theory on homosexuality in the urban/rebellious subculture. I think it is more common in these settings because the social structure is one without long term relationships or with less long term relationships and so people experiment more, also if it becomes hard to attract someone of the opposite sex maybe people just settle for what they can get!
ohh now going to watch the video.. did not see it before!!!
I made toy guns and swords out of plywood for my sons. They were a magnet to other boys who showed up to play.
One time a found a shard of wood that looked like a bowie knife. I put a cloth handle on it and added some “blood” streaks, then gave it to my son Shemp. You would think it was Excalibur the way he acted.
I have a response for this that I will put up here shortly.
The feminists would probably claim that the kids went back to playing with those toys as a result of social conditioning, and that their gender is merely a state of mind with no basis in biology.
Of course, they don’t have anything to back this up except conjecture and wishful thinking.
Exactly they were about 3 for the oldest there was no social conditioning, children in general just like different toys along sexist lines. Not all but most (as far as I have seen). Feminists need to all take a biology course because quiet a lot of their theories are based on males and females being exactly the same when it is entirely possible that we are just somewhat different. More alike than not but still .. different.
But well they do have the right to their opinion and their voice just annoys me that they often claim to represent women when they just represent themselves.
this is what you have to do to lego to make girls like it
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/46979745/vp/49052367#52597509
not that it is a bad toy, it is pretty nice.. but yea.
How old are your sons? Most boys who dont have toy guns just improvise dont they. Use sticks to shoot you with. I came home a while back and found my 13 year old son was shooting birds with a home made air gun he had made from pvc pipes, tape and an old car tire pump.
I could care less what a feminist thinks about the development of children. Most people who have had a fair number of children notice the different way girls and boys develop different interests long before they are exposed to “society”.
Shemp is 25 and Hermann is 19. Yeah boys will make weapons out of anything. When Shemp was about 6 we experimented with homemade bows and arrows which were quite capable of taking an eye out. I suppose the internet now provides curious boys plenty of plans for expedient weaponry. When I was a kid we made explosives that today would have the DHS swarming you.
Just saw the video and I agree with it 100%. What is going on in many black communities is the war of the sexes. The rest of the US just needs to look there to see how it could end if they do not change the system while they change the social structure. I do not know if you are black or not?? But the problem in the black community is that we are using the wrong social structure. The system does not match our social structure and on top of that children have no access to male role models. I wrote quite a lot about it on this blog: http://seculartraditionalism.wordpress.com/
Maybe tell me your thoughts if you get time.
I read the article. There are some great points made. The guy who makes the video I linked pretty much centers his entire premise around single motherdom. And I agree, the BC and the liberal movement are at odds on a societal level.
I disagree – perversion of sexual identity among children is prevalent among both sexes. However, it seems more rare but intense with boys as you see hre. With girls, it’s less pronounced but far more widespread, with the admission of girls to team sports, ‘you-go-girlism,’ and the wear of androgynous clothing. Most people refuse to see these as subverting femininity, but that is their own myopia.
I’m not ignoring that both sexes are effected. But that only males are receiving devoted coverage in articles and the like. I actually have a perspective on how females are effected by this as well. I simply left it out.
That’s because the female equivalent is not remotely remarkable – if someone told you his 5 year old daughter plays soccer, you wouldn’t bat an eye.
Well, sports is not necessarily a bad thing. Frankly, kids need some kind of activity. Child obesity is pretty bad these days. That is why I would not bat an eye. But I would take note of how they dress their kids normally.
Not only that, but girls in team sports in particular does not apply to every culture.Nor does the andro clothing. The “you go girl-ism” however, is seen among all cultural and racial divides (in the west at least)
I was thinking of something more sinister. Something that is not as obvious to pinpoint. Nurturing and nourishment is more than just the physical. The mental and in some cases depending on the faith, the spiritual is being subverted and largely neglected.
It’s not what the children are being given, it’s what they are being largely deprived of for the sake of emotional growth. In that article, Walmart Man in my opinion represents that void. These women are not raising kids neutrally when they are not exposed to both choices of masculine and feminine. Gender neutral in a single parent home = only choice which is an oxymoron.
There is no option to choose. It’s what the mother wants. And a mother especially a feminist mother does not understand masculinity; they vilify it. So why offer that choice to a boy? We have not seen a single father trying to raise neutral kids. And never will. People today are shocked when a father has full custody of his kids.
And as far as sexuality goes, I don’t truly know why lesbianism is treated the way it is. I don’t think anyone can truly pinpoint why it’s accepted more culturally than men being gay. For example, I was just listening to an old O&A with a woman named Taylor Vixen who only does lesbian and solo porn but dates guys exclusively. She is basically gay for pay and proclaims to be straight, but no one questions her sexuality. However, the male equivalent is presumed bi or gay. Then these men go on talk shows and have to sit in front of the female herd and “explain themselves”. But the herd does not chastise their own no matter what. That is in itself another part of the problem.
You like Patrice too eh?
Patrice was the fucking man. There should be a tribute article to him on here. His best friend Dante Nero is continuing the legacy of Patrice’s old radio show with a new one. I just found out because of the You Tube kid that was plagiarizing his words.
There is an article about him on here, actually: http://www.returnofkings.com/8066/red-pill-wisdom-from-patrice-oneal
Oh snap thanks bro. I don’t think I was a reader back then which is why I missed it.
I dislike your soft language with “feminist mothering can be questionable.”
When I have a son, if he wants to turn his arrow midstream to a different target, I’ll respect his choice..but I’ll be aiming that arrow like the hellspawn of Legolas and Katniss!
What if he puts Legolas posters all over his room?
BAHAHA I’d be concerned..but at least he’d still be more straight than guys who love Sarah Jessica Parker!
That’s actually a very good analogy to describe how these issues should be handled.
My understanding is that this story is on the the way to being debunked and that the mom may be bat shit crazy. HOWEVER, if the story is real and things happened as specified above, then I have to disagree.
Anybody that touches my kid in the way described is either going to have my foot removed from their ass by a proctologist or is going to be staring down the barrel of my Glock.
DON’T … FUCKING … TOUCH … OTHER … PEOPLE’S … KIDS …
As for whether or not you decide to take away a pink headband from a 2 year old who has decided to be ornery, I will leave it to those of you who actually have kids to decide for yourself whether or not it is worth a melt-down to try to get it off the kids head. For me it probably wouldn’t be as I don’t give a shit what people think of me and only a fucking retard would think that this sort of behavior at 2YO would result in an increased risk of the kid being effeminate later in life.
“Game” is about understanding the difference between what “is” (i.e., the positive) and what “should be” (i.e., the normative) in dating and in life. Maybe Mr. Goldstein should stick to the positive and avoid making normative pronouncements about issues where he has little to no knowledge or experience.
” Anybody that touches my kid in the way described is either going to have my foot removed from their ass by a proctologist or is going to be staring down the barrel of my Glock.”
You’re a paper tiger – you wouldn’t take a gun to any man for touching your kid. You’d phone up some bureaucrat and whine in their ear. Maybe file a lawsuit if you’re really anal.
Decades ago, it was recognized that the father. nor even the mother was not always around to discipline the children; various authority figures and institutions would temporarily act as parents, in loco parentis, and mete out discipline as appropriate. That often meant corporal punishment.
Like with being ‘protective’ of their daughters, threatening people who discipline their children is just another exhibit in the comical false bravado of the American father. He is actually emasculated, so he’s desperate for some of show of strength and power, so he makes wild threats he cannot credibly act on – few will risk decades in prison to back up their chest puffing.
absolutely correct.
Are you kidding? I’m going to guess that you don’t have children. Nothing turns on the animal instincts like watching someone get rough with your children, more so than from anything that might ever happen to a woman you’re with. I’ve held myself back from throttling 7 year olds who are rough with my kids. One of the signs that this is a bullshit story is that she didn’t just tackle the guy. This instinct is visibly present in even the softest, SWPL, effete pacifists, and in women as well.
And your notion of the consequences is absurd as well. Someone touches a kid and they are the ones risking prison, any cop will back up a parent for anything they might do if a stranger strikes their kid.
” I’ve held myself back from throttling 7 year olds who are rough with my kids.”
You sir are a paragon of manly virtue.
That’s still not the correct reaction. The emotional, “instinctive” response in this case is incorrect, as EG qualified. Nothing wrong with disciplining someone else’s kid; it’s just illegal.
Right,, and you sir, shouldn’t talk about things that you don’t fucking understand.
Nothing wrong with disciplining them, but if it becomes physical, unless you are removing them or someone else from danger, is going to get you in a serious conflict no matter who the parent is.
You repeat what “is going to happen,” but we just addressed that what happens in this case is not the correct thing to happen. I’d prefer if you would fully agree with me instead of pretending not to.
atahualpa sounds like a ratchet: “Bitch you don’t know me.”
Perhaps you fail to understand the stupidity of the sentence “Nothing wrong with disciplining someone else’s kid; it’s just illegal.”
Seriously?! Ha, Ha
If it’s the law, it has to be right. That’s why women are justified in frivorcing their faithful and devoted husbands to get cash and prizes. Yup, there no distinction between the law and what is right!!
Dumbass!
For the record, my parents always told my school teachers they had permission to spank me if I needed it. This was normal at the time, and there was nothing wrong with this, regardless of the current law on the subject. The idea that there is an inborn drive to go berserk if someone else disciplines your child is simply absurd.
I do, and you’ve failed to remedy this for either of us. Would you be so kind?
I didn’t say Bitch you don’t know me, I said Bitch, you don’t understand the topic of your own damn essay. If that distinction is too subtle for you, let me clarify. If people emulate the hero of the feminist fiction you detail in your essay, they will be the ones facing prison time. They discovered the hoax because Walmart pored over their security camera footage to find the guy and realized he never existed. Why do you think they looked for him, to give him a prize?
A simple test will reveal whether your theory that parents will be too frightened to confront a man assaulting their children, just go try it yourself and see what happens. Report back to us if you can.
It’s sad that you chose such a stupid example, because the larger point about the feminization of children is very real.
Laws don’t dictate right and wrong.
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You are absolutely right. The Glock would not have been an appropriate response given the facts in question as I am 6’5″ and 220 and there is no clear disparity of force in this hypothetical. However any reasonable non-leathal physical intervention would have been appropriate. In this hypothetical the guy committed a battery on your kid. It is perfectly legal and proportional to use non-lethal self-defense to defend that child in the stipulated circumstances. Additionally, I challenge you to find a DA who would charge me or a grand-jury who would indict me in those circumstances. Before you respond to this please provide your legal qualifications including your law school (a hint, unless you graduated from Harvard or Yale at the top 15% of your class, mine’s better).
Secondly as atahualpa pointed out, you either have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to YOUR kids (i.e, because you don’t have any) or you are a psychopath who doesn’t feel emotion at all, or at least in the same way most people do. You also have the benefit of anonymity and an echo chamber full of a bunch of kids who have never been actual parents so no-one other a few of us with kids and actual experience will argue with you. As far as my being a “paper tiger” the only way were going to figure that out is if you assault my kids in front of me. Needless to say, I don’t recommend that.
What a douche. Bragging about your legal qualifications based on what school you went to and what grades you got?
I don’t care about right and wrong. At this point you come across as an insecure freak and your words need to be taken as seriously as I take fairy tales and romance novels.
Let me guess, you’re also an ex-marine who has mafia connections?
I didn’t think I’d see a person who says stuff like “committed a battery to your kid” on RoK. You shouldn’t feel comfortable typing stuff like that.
“You’re a paper tiger – you wouldn’t take a gun to any man for touching your kid”
1. You’re just an internet douche who thinks he’s above reproach.
2. Give me a better reason to pull a Glock and fire than someone putting their fucking paws on my kid?!
Asswipe.
Perfect analysis.
Being a ‘fag’ is in. Just like Justin Bieber. Hell, I once saw 12 young guys who looked exactly like him, all walking together in a group down the street. Girls (late teens/early 20’s) often dig the ‘weak’ look for LTRs.
As Rome burns, the decline of civilization continues…
Maybe it’s because we live in a time where we don’t need men to be macho and fight for us women. Maybe we prefer guys who are confident in their sexuality so much so they can be in touch with their feminine side. Muscle men might have been the fashion at some stage but guys don’t have to beef up for girls to find them attractive nowadays. I find big biceps and pecs just poser-ish.
Nope. Ive met guys like this and they are useless. No real job prospects. No future. Just happenned to be right place, right time; and the girls liked the fact that he looked like he wouldn’t cheat ‘cos he wasn’t that physically attractive. Reap your future as you end up with useless guys who cannot have your backs.
You don’t need men to fight for you until you’re in danger. Trust me, those hollywood movies where women beat men are not reality.
You’re as fake as the straight guy who says he doesn’t like a nice set of tits and ass on a woman.
You don’t need men to fight for you until you’re in danger. Trust me, those hollywood movies where women beat men are not reality.
You’re as fake as the straight guy who says he doesn’t like a nice set of tits and ass on a woman.
Ha, did you actually just point out that men are physically stronger than women?! (And the prize for stating the f*cking obvious goes to…). Now don’t get me wrong, as a heterosexual woman, I appreciate the male form, as in a fit male body – but it doesn’t have to be pumped up to be in good shape. I find obvious muscles to be over the top try-hard. As for straight guys, some guys like really skinny, small-chested girls – perhaps these men have been brain-washed through media or perhaps not. Whatever you like what you like.
“we don’t need men to be macho and fight for us women”
Of course, you just need betas to pay taxes to support you and your children and armies of white knights and feminized laws that ensure any man that gets physical with you is killed. You sure don’t need no man!
It takes a man and a woman to make a baby so if you’re referring to single women with a baby who claim benefits paid for by society taxes then remember that the baby is also a man’s and you are paying for the actions of that man. We’re all a part of society and until science makes it possible for the male half of the species to bear children (hail that day!) then women are obliged to be the ones who continue the human species. And yes we need more laws to protect women from the ‘minority’ of men who are misogynistic and sexist (sounds like you might be one of that minority). If a man wants to be macho then fine, some women like that. But if a guy doesn’t want to adhere to a masculine stereotype encouraged by society then that’s great too and some women like that. It takes all sorts and people should be the person they want to be.
well London girl, you must like the gay guys. Real men probably would not go out with you anyways.
it’s b/c young women prefer men who are non-threatening and seem less likely to abuse them (physically/verbally/emotionally/etc.) rather than crazy assholes who treat them like shit which is a wild concept to grasp i know
“Girls strut about, their skin mired in tattoos, with profanities effortlessly rolling off their tongues. As monks would cut their hair short in their devotion to Christ or Buddha, the modern woman shaves her head in her devotion to pleasing only herself. Yet she has no shortage of suitors, who wait obediently at her beck and call.”
Fuckin’ Gospel.
If things do not change to the norm, and it may take another generation or two, there at least is the doomsday meteor out there somewhere en-route to Earth, to put as back to that puddle of shit from which we arose.
Lol! it’s called fashion / style – don’t sweat it!
Fashion / style: “I’ll remove any signifiers of my femininity and male-fetish sexual attractors if the corporate interests that drive the conspicious consumption cycle of fashion tells me it’ll make me cool! Earning temporary social status over other women by passing their transitory and fleeting peer judgements about what is ‘in’ is more important than attracting a partner or having children!”
The childless spinsters dying alone in nursing homes must take great comfort in the fact that at least they rocked a pair of moon boots in the 70’s.
Fashion / style: “I’ll remove any signifiers of my femininity and male-fetish sexual attractors if the corporate interests that drive the conspicious consumption cycle of fashion tells me it’ll make me cool! Earning temporary social status over other women by passing their transitory and fleeting peer judgements about what is ‘in’ is more important than attracting a partner or having children!”
The childless spinsters dying alone in nursing homes must take great comfort in the fact that at least they rocked a pair of moon boots in the 70’s.
Au contraire, a lot of guys are hipsters themselves and are attracted to fellow hipster girls. The childless spinsters shopped in Next and other non-descript boring labels your mum shops at and opted for ‘blending in’ over standing out from the crowd.
why do you automatically assume that a woman changes her appearance to stand out to men or to compete with other women for the attention of men??? contrary to your beliefs, women are capable of making decisions independent from outside influences. if men can be all about serving themselves, so too can women.
Her lesbian paramour looks like Sebastian Bach.
hahaha don’t insult poor Bach
LOL .. for sure one of the most revolting things I’ve ever seen.
The ugliness of some of these lesbians who try to look masculine is just unbelievable. This is one thing I just don’t get: lesbians who, presumably not liking men, then hook up with horrendous parodies of ‘men’.
They’re too ugly for the desirable men, so they hate them for not seeing their “inner beauty”, and they hate the men of the same SMV since they hold a mirror up to how undesirable they are.
Some also just have a phobia of penises, like some women are scared of mice.
Liberals have made a fetish out of victimhood. Which means that they MUST portray themselves as victims even if it means lying.
It no longer matters if this is debunked and the lying bitch who posted it is put in a straitjacket — the meme is out there and now every liberal “knows” that Evil White Men will Oppress Your Kids for Daring to be Different.
“He then **cuffed** Dexter around the side of his head”
“At the same time as I stepped forward, Dexter grabbed his head where the man had ***smacked*** him and threw his other hand forward..”
I can’t find where cuffed is also used as another word for smack. Not in dictionary or slang.
Walmart man, your presence made this woman tell a story using words that make no sense.
“to strike with an open hand” http://www.thefreedictionary.com/cuffed
Thank you sir. It also says: “Origin unknown” Underneath.
Of all the words to use, why that one? It still makes no sense.
Softens the meaning. She subconsciously probably wants a man to “cuff” her son because she cannot bring herself to do so. (Whether ’tis true or not.)
Hm. Interesting point. Actually, that falls in line with feminists and women who tend to use extremes with their words.
Open hand strikes are pretty good too. The sumo wrestlers know how to use then effectively.
My old man used to say it all the time but he was born in 1921. Perhaps it has fallen out of fashion.
“Knock it off or I’ll cuff you one!”.
“If there is hope, it lies in the proles.”
-George Orwell, 1984
The revolution is coming. One man at a time.
Fuck the proles.
I don’t mean to sound harsh but the worst societal problems are always in the lower socio-economic classes. Look at America right now. What socio-economic class has the highest marriage rate? What class has the lowest? What class has the most single mothers? What class has the highest incidence of paternity fraud, domestic abuse, rape, and all other sorts of relationship dysfunction?
Exactly. Remember Winston and Julia’s discussion of the prole woman hanging out her washing, and that he said she was ‘beautiful’? Standard issue Middle Class romanticising of Working Class crap: “oh they’re more alive!” “they’re earthy!” etc…
The literary intelligentsia love this myth. If you want to succeed in modern literature, simply fake a working class background of hardship. Instantly your writing contains ‘more truth’. Yawn.
it’s called the cycle of poverty, you god damn idiot. people in poverty do not have the same opportunity, resources, or support that the middle and upper classes do. in most cases, these crimes are not committed willingly. thievery as a means of survival, paternity fraud as a desperate attempt for some stability or support. these are things that people are pushed to do because they see no other option to escape their socioeconomic class. as far as domestic abuse and rape goes, they are no doubt caused by this strange obsession with maintaining masculinity. poverty makes men feel powerless, and so to regain some power they feel they need to abuse/”assert themselves” over women and children or anyone they view as weaker than themselves. you’re right, it’s no coincidence that crime is more rampant among the lower class, but it isn’t because these people are inherently bad or cruel, it is because their station in society has forced them into unhealthy behavior that otherwise would not happen.
“rich kids go to therapy, poor kids go to prison”
As A guy says, it sure as hell isn’t in the proles. It’s in the Ronins. The Edward Snowdens. It’s the men of least attachment who can be the most principled. It’s in the families who are willing to walk away from EVERYTHING the establishment offers, especially television and institutionalized education.
If anything, the story being a hoax makes it even better:
1. We all know that boys are being emasculated in today’s society, so the overall point of the article stands.
2. The project of dissolving the distinctions between the sexes is so vital to the Cathedral that they can’t let something like the truth stand in their way. Look for the comeback of the “fake but accurate” defense.
Your first point IS the ‘fake but accurate’ defense. No problem with that.
A great rumination on the sad state of the masculine ethic (or what is left of it) in America.
The point is well taken: masculinity is not inborn, but has to be taught, nurtured, and passed down from one generation to the next by a virtuous caretaker. And if it is not, the ethic dies. And when the ethic dies, we die.
Quintus, when you say “masculinity is not inborn, but has to be taught, nurtured…” don’t you think you’re veering close to the feminist idea that “gender is a social construct”?
I would argue that masculinity and femininity ARE inborn, and society is going through great pains to suppress and masquerade them. What’s happening right now via the manosphere shows that you can only suppress something natural for so long – the pressure builds and it breaks free elsewhere.
However you are correct that without a caretaker (read: Father) this suppression cannot be held in check.
Let me clarify. I did not mean to imply that “gender is a social construct”, which is obviously incorrect. Genetics and heredity, of course, are the prime determinants of gender and maleness.
When I said “masculinity”, I meant the culture of manliness. What the Romans used to call “virtus”. I am talking about a societal cultural value, not a genetic inheritance.
What I meant was that a society that values men, and values what they have to offer, has to take specific steps to cultivate this ethos. It has been done in the past with religious rites, the formation of specific organizations (guilds, religious orders, military fraternities, etc), and active promotion in literature, art, and song.
Unfortunately, even though the feminists are despicable and contemptible, they have understood something that men have neglected or forgotten: they know that societal institutions can play a big role in valuing one ethos or another. Right now, they have hijacked most institutions in the US to push their agenda that women are superior to men. And, to give them their due, they have caused us tremendous damage.
I covered this issue in great detail in my article a few weeks back entitled “The First Red Pill Symposium”.
Yes, but how long will their story, completely un-backed by scientifical facts hold water. Basic, the most basic psychology state the necessity of having both sex parents, with their different roles, levels of emotional empathy towards kids, periods of kid’s life when father is supposed to become more close to a son, and mother more close to daughter etc. It is something that is proven through practice.
Now what, a bunch of feminists are supposed to walk down university and say “these are all lies, Freud was fucking biggot”.
And then you go “scientific facts……”
“fucking biggots, racists, homophobes, go burn in hell loser….”
That’s as far as they can get when faced with 2+2=4 facts.
Only reason why people don’t react is because they don’t give a damm. They have at least 5 more important things to think about: smartphone, cable tv, shopping useless stuff they don’t need, stuffing themselves with unhealthy food, and last but not the least – their own personal insecurities caused by long family tradition of living lame middle-class lives with poor soul-draining expectations of having a house, debt, fat wife, insurance, and economical automobile.
Capitalism drains individual thought. Individual intellect is contrary to capitalist interests, because capitalism relies on advertising strategies, selling one same shitty product to wide range of masses, billions of people. Too much colorful market = too much production cost.
Only way for a man to get out as a winner of this situation, is to stop taking capitalist loans, living in capitalist created suburbs, being forced into capitalist forced marriages, buying only brand new capitalist products he doesn’t even need, work like office drone for his entire life, without even once trying anything a little more exciting,
okay i’m sorry but modern neuroscience is nowhere near advanced enough to provide evidence that male and female brains differ in construction enough that such traits are just naturally ingrained in them. there is just no tangible or credible evidence that this is true. if this child is two, it would seem logical that he has not been exposed to pop culture/”feminist brainwashing” enough to develop feminine traits. how can you explain this desire to be feminine, other than it is just in his personality? and even if it is not, how can you condone the physical attack and likely trauma that the child received from a grown man, and a stranger at that?
Haha, at 2 he has been exposed to plenty, especially his mom and her circle of hens, cartoons (of which Disney are the worst). It was all a lie by the deranged mother anyway, it seems. But kids wearing such things usually turn out ok – going through a phase, etc. And they’re robust to such ‘trauma’ and will encounter all sorts of shit in their formative years. Real trauma is rare, and takes the forms of crippling emotional abuse, among others. The latest generation who are obsessed with their iPhones may be essentially neglecting their children, and may be ill-equipped for the job.
Totally. Anyone who has spent time with babies knows that masculinity and femininity are at least partially inborn. Boys and girls have different degrees of it, of course. Some are outliers.
I think a big reason the “gender is a construct” crowd gets away with spouting that lie is because they’re preaching to the childless — college kids. Once people come of age and have kids, all this stuff becomes irrelevant. Ask any parent who gave a boy a doll and found he used it as a hammer.
Before I took the red pill, I believed in equality between the sexes. However, I had come to realize that despite having my life and relationship otherwise in good order, my wife wasn’t attracted to me, and in fact found me repulsive.
When I learned that sexual attraction is based in large part on the man being confident and dominant (the other part is that looks really do matter, in the form of fitness), I was immediately aware that the potential to act more dominantly was always just latent within me. I had been somewhere between a typical delta and gamma, nerdish and socially maladroit. I always had the potential inborn temperament to be more confident, dominant, and aggressive. However, my personality was constrained by my upbringing and beliefs.
Once I learned that attraction is based on confidence and dominance, I had a conversion experience. If this is what attracts women sexually, then this is what is right and good. I embraced the aggressive, dominant, confident side of myself that had laid dormant, and began changing my life.
I agree with QC that masculinity has to be taught. I agree that it is morally evil to train young boys to restrain their masculinity. It’s not just that the boy will have a harder time getting laid when he comes of age. Even when he does get laid, the woman he is with will be less responsive. It’s been commented widely that tossing your woman around, spanking her, or holding her down will turn her on. I can certainly testify to this. Even if this poor boy does grow up to get some kind of a woman, he is less likely to ever experience the gratification of driving your woman wild.
Great story man. And as for being dominant in bed? Abso-fuckin-lutely! The more masculine you are with her and the more you lead her, the more she will *yearn* to be your sex slave. Quick tip for instant BDSM play: I wear a nice, wide, leather belt with my jeans or pants. Just fold it in two and double it up in your hand, and you have an instant ‘flogger’ with which you can smack her safely without risking any damage (don’t be a dumbass and hit her with the buckle, obviously ..lol) Works beautifully to spank her ass, and when she’s well warmed up use it on her nipples and pussy. My current main girl goes absolutely crazy for that.
70 million copies of 50 Shades of Grey can’t be wrong. Women are attracted to pure dominance.
I was always raised to be submissive towards women, to see them as my better and superior. The truth is the opposite, that women are in every way morally, intellectually and spiritually inferior to men.
I had a miserable childhood and my teenage years were even worse. By the time I started dating women in my early 20’s (I’m 27 now) I was amazed at how women wanted to be treated so roughly in bed, in fact most of them wouldn’t respond in any other way. If I’d try to give women “equality” as I’d been taught they would end up using me for money, sexual interest would dry up and at best I’d become a laughing stock. Also I heard stories about guys who treated women with contempt and how women all lined up to please this sort of guy and it caused massive amounts of cognitive dissonance as I just didn’t understand.
It wasn’t until I started reading articles online that I really understood the true nature of women. Women’s nature is to be inferior to men, man must be superior to women and there has never been equality. Women will not tolerate inferiority or submission in men, though they train men that they are not attracted to in liberal and feminist ideas so that they can use them.
Yes, we are. Confidence/Dominance is the sexiest quality I can think of in a man. Too bad it is so rare to find these days. However, I’m part Latina, so my views my be skewed growing up with my macho Father. But my Mother ate that stuff up.
Cam,
“Too bad it is so rare to find these days”
Please remember that many of us, me included, have been assaulted and severely injured by police call in to our homes by our own wives to “show us who is boss”. So there is no need to guess why men who demonstrated these characteristics in the west are “rare”. ok?
The west is going to fall. I can see no other ending for the west. The MBA is going to be those men who gather together now and prepared for the fall of western civilization and work towards a world they want to live in afterwards.
I have zero respect for any man that cannot sympathise with the feminist cause. It makes me think he is unintelligent and thick guys are just the biggest turn off ever! Women subconsciously want their offspring to have good genes and to be intelligent.
hilarious!
I have zero respect for any feminist. They are idiots easily manipulated by pop culture.
I have zero respect for idiots who haven’t researched an issue before they make a dumbfuck comment about it.
You’re like the cowardess tingling for and cheering on the Gestapo. Wait until the doo doo really hits the fan and there are no men to protect you. It won’t be long.
Welcome to the club. The manosphere is full of men who realized that they are weak and unmanly not because of their nature but because of their upbringing. I’m one of them. Reversing the brainwashing is hard; I think I’m maybe only 20% down that road so far.
AMFAS,
yep..I had pretty much the same experience. I used to tone down my “manliness” around women so as to not “offend” as I had seen MANY women claim men “offended” them in the business environment by being “sexist”. I too was accused of being “sexist” many times when I was working for a steel works in Woollongong Australia.
So when I worked at IBM and other places I made sure to tone that down because there were women present. But women just hate you for that. Since I graduated to Alpha in 2010? I notice how women LOVE alpha behaviour. Sure, they will call me sexist etc….but it is easy to see how much they desire a man who is alpha….after all? Most men are doing exactly what I used to be doing….trying to be as “in-offensive” as possible….it just makes you look bland.
Worse than looking bland is being made to look effeminate or homosexual.
Women will never, ever encourage you to behave in a way that is more masculine and domineering. Going to women for advice on what women are attracted to is the worst thing you can possibly do.
Only men who are compassionate about the plight of other men and will ever pull you up on your ridiculous behaviour and shame you like Walmart guy. Recently I was told I slouch over when I talk to women and curl into a sort of standing fetal position that looks ridiculous and submissive. Other guys have helped me to lose social awkwardness and behave in a way that is more masculine. Just like this site really. Women realise these things about men and are very finely tuned socially however they encourage it because first it neuters you and makes you appear safe, therefore you can be treated like a relative or an object to be used for resources.
Women want a sort of sexual gladiator arena where social darwinism is key and all casualties are worthless and to be discarded. Only the supreme alpha males “deserve” to be at the top of the rung and that’s because they worked all this out for themselves. Men who were born in unfortunate circumstances or “trained” to be slaves for women are that way because it’s their own fault in the eyes of women.
Women do not and never have cared about beta males. In fact you could probably extend that and say that they don’t actually care about anyone but themselves, the alpha male just being a status symbol and extension of their sexual fantasies.
Only men care about other men and that’s why I think it’s important to have a male only space here. Women are only capable of having empathy for themselves, their offspring and other women. Betas are non entities to them.
Doesn’t strike me as true, maybe because I have a big ego of my own, but I cannot stand a guy who is domineering and oppressive. I just want to take the p* out of him and cut him down verbally until he’s more humble. But show me a guy who is intelligent, quietly confident (NOT arrogant), has respect for everyone – men or women – friendly to everyone and a great sense of humour and I will show you the guy that wins all round! 🙂
People are just naturally attracted to confidence – believe in yourself or no one else will. I have been attracted to a rather effeminate, straight guy before because he was outrageous, hilarious, fun, smart and sexy – not beautiful – just interesting-looking. David Walliams is a good celebrity example – some women love him. It’s a ‘type’ thing
You’re so wrong, any guy who behaves in a sexist way in front of me at work swiftly gets a verbal slapping down. If you want to be seen as an alpha (and that can be male or female) then you better be f*cking smarter than everyone else, don’t make any dumbass decisions and you better have some amazing social skills too because if people don’t like you they don’t like you. Unfortunately people are also superficial when it comes to looks as well so you can’t really be fat or ugly either.
Yes sweetie…we know we are “so wrong”. We have been
told all our lives we are “so wrong” and told what women want and many of us tried very hard to make our marriages work and raise our children etc. Guess what? No matter HOW good you are you are “not good enough”
as a man….so many of us are quitting. We do not listen to what women tell us they want any more. Many of us could be called men going their own way.
We will tell women what they must do in the future. Period. In case you did not know I have claimed into existence a “cold state of war” with women as one group of named enemy combatants. In Ireland it is actually a HOT WAR meaning acts of WAR are now lawful against women over the age of 18 who are non muslim and mentally competent. We will release any man who commits an act of WAR in Ireland who is incarcerated as a prisoner of war at the close of hostilities.
You women should have talked to us when we invited you to. Now? Unconditional surrender is your only option. And I think plenty more young men are going to join in this WAR because they are sick of being criminally victimised by women
in the west.
kindness is sexy. intelligence is sexy. wisdom is sexy. dominance is intimidating, strength is frightening. any woman who has been abused or raped or anything like that will tell you that dominance is NOT sexy. it seems logical to me anyway that women would go for someone less likely to control/abuse them than someone so fucking violent and macho
tosh! see my above comment
I remember those good old days when my mom bought my brother and I a knight set: armor, a helmet, and swords, and we pretended we were knights.
Us 90’s kids might have been the last generation that didn’t grow up completely feminized or made into mere extensions of our entitled parents’ personalities.
I’m in my mid-20’s. I look at today’s teenagers and simply shake my head. The so-called Generation Z is like the freakiest part of the Twilight Zone world we live in: totally absorbed into meaningless abstractions of actual human interaction.
I can ONLY imagine what kids growing up in the late 2000’s-2010’s are going to turn out like.
I disagree with you; by the 90’s the feminist child-rearing ideals were already widely-accepted and put into practice. I’m a 90’s kid myself.
I’d go even further back, to at least the 80’s or 70’s for the last generation that wasn’t raised to be pussies.
Boys these days still play with toy guns and toy soldiers. Lots of them do. Not to mention play endless computer games involving extreme violence.
But mindless video game violence is just as bad as emasculation. It doesn’t teach masculinity, it only teaches how to call people ‘faggot’ over xbox live. The real values of strength, confidence, etc. are replaced by comfortable cowardice and empty boasting.
Not that video games are wrong. They are awesome every once in a while. But you still need to teach your boys how to be men.
You’re right though that since the 90’s it’s gotten much, much worse.
I grew up in the 80’s and me and my friends would play tackle football and have fistfights for fun. Nothing serious, but a good shot to the jaw once in a while.
These days, most kids won’t even go outside because their asses are stuck on the couch watching TV or playing video games.
Your experiences aren’t that different from my own. While we probably played more video games than you guys did in the 80’s, we made the best of it. Back in those days it was interacting with actual people because you were playing together, a good way to build friendships among the boys because gaming was essentially a boy’s hobby in those days. Nowadays you just sit and talk to someone on the other end of a computer.
Beyond that though, wrestling was all the rage, and we pretended to be wrestlers a lot. Wrestling was cool back then. You had cool characters in WCW, ECW, and the WWF.
Looking at wrestling today and it reflects today’s kids perfectly- neutered, without character, and mediocre.
Hear, Hear!
From what I’ve gathered, one of the biggest talking points for feminism is the acceptance of identity. Which really means anything/everything is ok, just so long as it’s not men being masculine and heterosexual.
Brilliant condensation.
nah it’s more of a rejection of the intense violence and abuse that often comes with ideologies of masculinity
Masculinity and Machoism are extremely different. Masculinity is confidence without having to prove your abilities, while machoism is the constant need to “prove” you’re stronger/better/faster/smarter than someone. Machoism suffers from the same ego trip that feminism does.
Yes, it’s akin to someone saying deception, cheating, child-aborting and money-grabbing are ideologies of femininity. Isn’t it great to see how well-versed feminists are with their subject matter?
Just for the record … Alpha Male here and I would totally boink that tattooed chick in the picture like a pneumatic jackhammer. If we’re going to shame the sluts, let’s focus and shame the sluts that look like sluts. Not the little hotties.
No disagreement there. Her looks might not even be hurt that much. But for a less naturally attractive girl, a shaved head is far more destructive of her beauty.
You would? I wouldn’t touch a girl with a skrillex haircut if she was the last woman on earth. That tattoo puts her over the top. I like feminine hotties. That’s just me.
What you would fuck is different from what you would love, mate.
This mother might very well be your typical American scrunt, but if some buy (or woman, for that matter) put his/her hands on my kid, there would be fucking bloodshed, sirens and a closed-casket funeral.
Walmart man is an asshole deserving no goddamned honor at all.
…or is the author one more socialist cocksucker who thinks anyone in the world has the right to fuck with another person’s kid?!
should be “guy” not buy.
Given your stated penchant for violence, how many have you killed until now? What’s your body count?
You’re all bark and no bite.
Keyboard warrior banned
Hey, are sitting down sweetie?
Ok, the WWE, and GI Joe is not real. They are faked to sell tickets to the likes of chumps like you who will buy anything, but have neither the balls or gumption to actually attempt, let alone DO any of it.
Sit down before the stress you are having after years of WOW gaming send you to the hospital.
Why is it that every time gender roles are talked about it’s always about the boys and men becoming more feminine? The obsession with little boys and pink is weird too.
Also Jenna Lyons isn’t the president of J.Crew.
Because women are the only ones talking about it, and they want to feminize boys and are often content to let girls be tomboys if they desire it.
Thanks for the correction, will put in later.
cause women willingly want to be “masculine”. Or at least the loudest group of women who discuss this.
So you are coming here to tell us that you really know what is wrong with the world (e.g. We don’t know or care where that fuckin’ crazy lesbian, who wants to turn her son into a faggot, actually works).
GTFOOHC (Get the fuck out of here cunt).
This is fuckin’ war and you and your lesbian sex in the city feminist cunts need a lesson.
Post this woman’s picture. She needs to be publicly shamed.
Dude, fuck that. If anyone touched my kid I’d be tempted to pull out my butterfly knife and stab them.
LOL
Shot guns work better, and since they have as much as 8 rounds in todays world, you will most likely miss with at least two of them, finally get a full hit with one; and have one left for your mortuary pic when you discover you won’t last in prison…which equals your comment was ridiculously stupid.
Don’t come back until your head is TACK welded from your ass.
1st, it’s not nice to block me from commenting. if your arguments are valid, they can stand to a tiny bit of scrutiny.
What follows is an admittedly long-winded comment. Sorry in advance!
My very first commentary foray into the exciting domain of ROK yesterday
afternoon was moderated by none other than Mr. Roosh V within one hour of
its posting. Not only was I kicked off the individual thread but banned
from commenting on any future ROK material!
Initially, I was flattered that my comment merited such prompt attention
from Roosh and was excited to be on the receiving end of the direct
bluntness I’ve come to enjoy in his posts! Once the tingles of my exchange
with Roosh wore off however, I began to wonder what about my comment could
have deserved a rare ROK moderation. My tone was respectful and even
complimentary, though I tentatively suggested that the overall quality of
the blog may be improved by actively inviting broader readership and
commentary. Roosh explicitly communicated that I was kicked off the thread
because I was a woman and that there were “no girls allowed” on ROK. In
addition to that reasonable rationale, I might add that instead of getting
tangled up in the endless arguments over the minutia of blog content, I
criticized something related to the overarching structure of this site.
Myopically focusing on tiny details obscures understanding of more complex
subjects, while keeping an eye on the bigger picture can heighten it. Did
my comment express something unsettling about ROK’s fundamental nature and
if so, what could that have been?
Roosh’ swift move to block further comments inviting a dialogue of many
perspectives rather than a monologue of one, made it clear to me (and
perhaps to other readers as well) that ROK serves an emotional purpose
rather than an intellectual one. Voicing arguments on a subject while
discouraging alternative viewpoints or disconfirming information is not an
academic discussion but an exercise in group
think. In my personal
experience, such interactions don’t often result in accurate conclusions
being drawn but do create a cozy sense of harmony and rightness among
participants. Taking a cue from that renowned sage, Stuart Smalley, daily
affirmation of readers is a commendable aim of any blog! It’s possible that
Roosh interpreted my comment as dousing cold water on the crackling warmth
of a website that essentially amounts to a scouts’ campfire.
It follows then that since ROK material is non-falsifiable by reader
preference, the hard-and-fast facts style in which most posts are presented
might be better framed as opinion. For example, observe the stylistic
revision to Emmanuel’s post:
Original text: This instinct, to castrate and emasculate one’s own sons is
increasingly common among American mothers.
Revised text: Based on my personal interactions with others and study of
one J. Crew advertisement, I have formed the opinion that the instinct to
castrate and emasculate one’s own sons is increasingly common among
American mothers.
Just my two cents, which I understand may be of even lesser value on ROK.
What’s the exchange rate here for two “girl cents?”
No one here cares what you think.
What? Did I miss a comment the size of a jezebel article?
Why did you double space this, are you submitting it to be graded?
I figured it was a really, really long poem….
Cam S: identify your sex. Your avatar indicates female. If this is the case, you will be banned.
Wow, first time I’ve ever been banned from anything. Makes me feel rebellious….
Yeah, that feeling is just mistaken for identity. It is not rebellious you feel, just stupidity. Like how you will raise your sons to go burn cities down when your EBT cards don’t pay.
Stay classy sex in the city.
Oh, and GTFU
He didn’t ban you because you’re woman. He banned you because you made a comment from a high horse obnoxiously telling the ROK contributors what they had to do.
This is undoubtedly a male space, but there are a number of women that comment here somewhat frequently. They don’t get banned. Why? Because they carry themselves with class and don’t try to put others in childish frames. Regardless of whether you intended to do this or not, this is how your comment came across.
This is not a debating site. This site is primarily about self-improvement and life fulfillment, while yes, critiquing the direction of our current culture. We understandably don’t want professional victims spewing their vomit in our hallowed halls. This is why some perspectives may be quick to be silenced.
TL;DR
Carry yourself with respect and class, and you will be welcome. Act like a victim or display control freak tendencies, and you will not be. Work on your tone as a guest and you may put yourself on the better path.
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I was going to second the motion EG, but then most feminists are monsters who break cameras rather than pose for anything other than their old high school photos.
Or until they meet their love of their life like the lady above, and spend the rest of their meaningless lives comparing their man jaws and gay pride. I imagine the photographer who took that photo is in a real bind. One, he can’t have man jaw and company losing face by breaking his camera, but if his lens snaps their fragile go will have him fired.
Risks one takes for being a sycophantic kiss ass.
tl;dr banned
“If you touch my son again, I will cut your damn hands off.” Empty threat from a weak-willed feminist dirigible. Check the link, she couldn’t handle the situation herself, so she went and cried to the state. This kid will grow up to be an unspeakable mangina, because he 1) has no parental figure instilling a sense of self-reliance or self-sufficiencty (two crucial aspects of being a man), and 2) because his dysfunctional mother wants to eradicate any traces of masculinity in him.
If this war is to be won, an all-out assault on the single mother must be a priority.
This is how single moms express their hatred of men
Maybe he just wanted to have something that reminded him of his Mommy? I used to carry my Dad’s ties around cause they smelled like him and I wanted to be like him (I’m a girly girl). My Godson carried my old purse around for the longest when he was little. He would say “It smells like a woman!”
Per the HuffPo link the incident is now being investigated by law enforcement. lolz.
Seems like men are getting more fed up eh?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2387305/Derek-Medina-Florida-man-posts-picture-dead-wife-Jennifer-Alfonso-Facebook.html
Child Abuse, but of course they just follow the “mainstream” opinion so nothing is going to happen besides Dexter probably becoming a total fuck-up because of his mother.
There is a thing called necessary evil, sometimes it’s needed. But the females cannot understand that, everything has to be sugar-coated and nice all the time.
There’s a less than 5% chance that this story actually happened.
This story is a classic example of why every American male born after 1985 is assigned an attendant, who’s job it is to hold his dick while he pees.
this article is motherfucking hilarious.
What is truly disturbing is how this sort of thing is not considered child abuse.
Made up? Pity! ‘Cause I know a girl who is dressing her son in pink. “I think he looks lovely in it” – yeah, he won’t be gay or severely screwed in the head within ten years.
A certain coincidence sticks out to me in stories like this… Every time someone defends “a boy’s right to express himself and dress however he likes,” they’re not pointing to a kid sporting 100 rubber bands on his arm, or a kid who wants to dye his hair green and wear Martian antennae, or a kid who wants to dress as a zebra and gallop around everywhere… .
.
Instead, it’s always the boy wearing a dress, a tiara, or pink slippers who gets the applause. Always and everywhere, the crowd cheers for “gender norms” being defied… in one, specific direction only. Only feminization gets the headlines; only feminization is lionized; and only boys are being hailed for crossing the gender line.
.
Hmm.
Excellent piece. Non-homophobic, yet laying down the essence of the situation. This should be required reading for all new mothers.
This seems to be the route that Putin endorses, broadly speaking – let the homosexuals carry on amongst themselves, and otherwise stay out of public view.
Given what most people think of the mainstream media, what I see here on RoK is hilariously the most fucking stupid concept of blogging on the planet.
RooshV was a great blog.
RoK is douchebaggery incarnate.
Roosh. What the fuck is wrong with you?! To let this drek contaminate your otherwise reasonable posts is just jucking WRONG!
Why do people act like calling someone a faggot or being a “homophobe” is a bad thing?
treating a young boy like a boy is best for the child and society at large. I shouldn’t have to explain to the readers here why that is a fact. so, if a child is doing something that is bad for the child and society, than someone needs to step up and correct the mistake. the reason a lot of commenters equate the moms actions (supposed actions) with her son to child abuse is because of how damaging emasculating a young boy truly is.
I am a parent, if I wasn’t available and if my child was doing something that was dangerous, than I hope someone would correct my kid. that being said, when you touch a child that is not yours, you are taking your life in your own hands. part of being a responsible adult is risking your own skin to safeguard innocence. as the old saying goes “stand for something or fall for anything.”
I enjoyed this article and the discussion it spawned.
thanks Goldstein
I said exactly that to someone recently – if my child is acting up, and someone stepped up to set him straight, in a prudent reasonable manner, I would thank him. Given that you’re entrusting your children to people you trust, such as a teacher, a brother, or his friend’s father, this should not be much of an issue.
A complete stranger taking action is extreme, but if the situation calls for it and he acts judiciously, he deserves praise as well.
Part of the problem is that the media has us believing that all men are seconds away from being child molesters. If you’ve ever been a camp counselor or even a babysitter, you know that young boys can be incredibly fun – fiercely competitive, energetic, and will practically fight to the death over the most trivial arguments.
Another, perhaps, is that our lives are so partitioned, that we spend so little time around children, only as children and as parents. From adolescence to childbirth, and then from age 45 or so to age 75, we get little exposure to children. We spend more time pontificating about than actually interacting with children.
thanks Goldstein. I feel a little less crazy every time I get a response to my comments here. you keep writing and I will keep donating to the manosphere!
Fake story, yeah. And not all male crossdressers are gay (not that a toddler wearing a headband is going to turn out to be gay OR a crossdresser). I’d rather date a guy who wears dresses and nail polish than one like the fictional Walmart Man. Maybe I should find a straight guy raised by lesbians?
You know, homosexuality is not natural right?
The study in 93 was intentionally misleading, the following two that copied the experiment of 50 sets of twins where at least one or both were gay and they checked the genes of the 23rd chromosome (the last one that determines gender) was stated by the other two research scientists (one was straight with no dog in the fight, the other was gay himself) both said the findings were “inconclusive.” Which in science community to layman but paying for research grants is politically correct cover speech for IT IS NOT NATURAL.
Also, the gay lobby was up in arms middle of last decade over a study that claimed homosexual parents actually have a 35% chance or better to become gay, and straight parents only 5%. It got squashed by politics, not research communities.
Basically, like other times in history, those like you who favor it because popular celebrities do will turn on homosexuals when they are no longer accepted victim status class….and also potentially treat them like you do everyone else you think is stupid enough to not agree with everything you do…outright contempt.
People like you are the assassins bullet in Dr. King, the nails in Christs wrists and feet, and the same people who build monuments to fallen heroes like this claiming you would never do that.
When homosexuals are no longer hip, you will cheer when their hips get broken. If you have half a brain, take a look at normal everyday problems many of them have when old, like having to wear diapers for uncontrolled anal bleeding and a plethora of other ailments that straight people don’t have.
They don’t produce offspring, that itself is a key identifier, but when also compared to the massive amount of “unusual” symptoms they get from their “lifestyle” it becomes obvious to all but the most disingenuous idiots as yourself.
I don’t hate them, I pity them, because I suspect they are hurting, and the current popularity of their movement is just one more layer of delusion to keep them right where they are at.
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The Elites keep them busy so that they can keep us busy.
Capitalism automatically feeds the wars of social class, gender, race, religion, and what have you.
Feminism is just another tool in the process of enslaving everyone to that addictiv feeling of power over our fellowmen.
Long live the revolution. @[email protected] is here to stay.
It’s funny how not a single female commenter here can get through a comment without saying “BY THE WAY GUYS, I HAVE A VAGINA, I MATTER.”
It’s as if she knows her comment is stupid, so she needs something else to give it credibility. So she *has* to tell you she’s a woman.
Huh, I don’t see where I said I was a woman or that I have a vagina in this comment.
Actually I’m a female fish and fish don’t have vaginas, so I resent your incorrect assumptions.
Great article despite this likely being a hoax. Our boys are being transformed to betas or outright queers.So many reasons but here’s a list:
1. Enviromental? Testosterone counts are decreasing worldwide. Due to phytoestrogens in food ( satanic fucking ToFu soy products) to plastic water bottles.Estrogens from women’s birth control pills being excreted into the water supply from girl pee. In Utero estrogen exposure to the male fetus by women not knowing they are knocked up and still taking their pills.
2. Male child abuse by man-hating feminists?? Conspiratorial? Maybe , but I think feminist women so hate men that they knowingly maltreat their boys via their ambivalent , metro-quasi gay- girly child raising. Imagine those skanks from Jezebel raising a male child?? Recently on Jezebel the gals said how they wished Prince Harry-Kate had a girl child …why? Because they hate men. Feminism is a superiority payback-to the -patriarchy cult which at its’ core is a revenge movement against men. It begins in infancy….
3. Single moms. No men in sight. The state and the taxpayer are the baby daddy…Nuff said…
4. Chicks everywhere. Most grade/high school teachers are gals…
5 Feminization of once male institutions. The military. Chicks in combat. Chicks on subs. Sports…chick fucking sportscasters commenting on football . I don’t see John Madden doing commentary on synchronized swimming. Wrestling removed from the Olympics??!! No dodge ball for fuck’s sake!!
6. Video games. The digital world. Boys retreating to their basements for World-of-Warcraft instead of banging chicks .
7. No men . NO fathers. We are partly to blame fellas. How can we restore the patriarchy if we don’t produce any patriarchs? How can we promote red pill wisdom if we don’t reproduce? My guess is most of the bloggers and commentors on this site are childless?I think this is a shame . QC , Roosh seem like cool and interesting dudes and would make unique fathers. MGTOW I understand but it comes at a cost . I say at some point we need to find that Ukranian fuck machine, sign a pre nup, marry , and knock her up and make some boys….
That is true. Gotta make healthy babies and educate them well in the arts of anarchism, empty handed combat, weapons, propaganda, spying tactics, computer hacking, homemade explosives, economics and politics, music, jungle and dessert survival skills and psychedelic plants.
Otherwise how are going to face the enemy and fuck him over? God gave us a soldier in each son and the resistance movements are here to stay.
I guess I really have to take the view of the optimist on this. I live in in fairly lefty liberal suburb and yet so many times I have seen the young boys rebelling against their parents on these sorts of issues. All wanting to join sports clubs, and when their liberal parents decide kids sports contests have to be played without scoring the kids universally keep the scores themselves secretly and talk amongst themselves about who won. i still remember the day one of my sons joining a soccer team for 5 year olds and the boys when voting on the name for the team had a vote on their two most popular choices the “Spitfires” versus the “Hurricanes” to the disgust of some of their parents.
This article is sheer brilliance.
I have a theory as to why you guys gets so angry upon seeing men or boys acting “effeminately.” You’ve defined yourself as “men,” relying perhaps somewhat on your own masculinity, but mostly gaining confidence from the “brand,” as it were. So anyone who diminishes “manliness,” by, say, wearing a pink shirt or even (horror) being homosexual, is, in effect, weakening your own borrowed sense of masculinity. You see it as an affront, as good as a direct attack. And what do “real” men who feel attacked do? They overindulge in masculine stereotypes to reassure themselves that they are not “weak” or “gay.” Hence, the attacking boys and calling people “faggot.” This, however, really isn’t necessary if you are as confident as you pretend to be.
You are in desperate need of John Money’s love.
Y’all realize that the original story was painfully fake, right? Walmart man is a caricature. The narrative is the least subtle thing ever. Good response though.
Who would do that, just go on the Internet and spread lies?
Walmart man photo looks like a faggot
I figured this story was fake. It does highlight an important point. I agree that single mothers try and neuter the masculinity out of their boys. I see this all the time. I think the problem as mentioned in the article is that sets him up for failure later on in life.
He will be the “nice guy” there to please women at his expense. These women will not want to date him but be his “friend”. It is disgusting how mothers do this to their children because of some sort of hatred for the childs father.
I have decided, as a mother, to dress my child unisex. As someone who has limited my own clothing choices before because of my sex, I’d like to at least let my child try and start fresh, and the age he can start choosing things to wear, let him express interest in some things as he would like.
What is your definition of “unisex”? just curious.
“I have decided, as a mother, to dress my child unisex”. If you make parenting choices unilaterally as a mother then you operate a matriarchal unit. Your son will have to establish his identity against the choices you are making for him on the basis of a supposedly emancipatory gender narrative that will let him “try and start fresh”. Do you really believe your son will thank you for raising him according to a feminist blueprint for a gender neutral world? He will grow to resent this, and the fact that you did it out of love will mean nothing
Let people express themselves.
you mean without criticism or commentary? CC is expressing herself, but is claiming that in doing so she is letting her child express himself. Her values will be in the foreground, but we’re supposed to believe the environment will be neutral. He’s being trained in how not to be a man….
Just looked into her and in fact seem she is thought to be fraud. Too many wacky stories. BTW, that tattooed chick you posted is hot as fuck. I wouldn’t complain about having a chick like that to bang.
I feel that your ultimate point is really good, but you don’t just call a little kid a faggot. This is not some beta shit, this kid could always have this experience in the back of his mind. This is not some social justice shit either, the parent raises the child; even in a classically patriarchal society this man would not be applauded, he would get his ass kicked. I am surprised that this is the conclusion you came to after this article, even if it was fabricated.
Don’t be a Fag Mother.
Excuse me while I weep with laughter! This is a joke, right? A clever satire of homophobic sexist thinking? Tell me you don’t actually BELIEVE what you’re writing. Oh shit you do. What a strange, warped little world you live in, that your sense of self is so fragile that you need to put women and gay men down in order to feel secure. I’m not angry, I actually feel sorry for you.
Here’s an idea, how about you let people be what they want to be, instead of dictating what they SHOULD be with the gas that comes out your arse? Since when are you the king of the world?! Besides, the kid in the story WANTED to wear the headband, her mum didn’t force him to wear it. And as for your so-called hero, Wallmart Guy, it’s none of his fucking business how this kid dresses. Why doesn’t he go and get a life, and stop telling other people how to live.
Because – here comes the important point – it’s a CHILD wearing a HEADBAND. You’re writing a blog about a CHILD. Wearing a HEADBAND. A SMALL PERSON, that you don’t know, that has no connection to you whatsoever, WEARING A PARTICULAR ITEM OF CLOTHING. This is what you choose to write about. What you choose to get angry about. Seriously. Get a life.
Gays hate false advertising just as much as heteros do.
It’s about openly conversing with others about your orientation and where your romantic interest lies. Not how you dress or carry yourself.
Are you by any chance, fat and ugly and lesbian?
You are talking about a child, but… the question is… are you already raising your own children?
Or… are you using him and his fake story to do some cool gender politics…?
You don’t have your own children, you shut up. You have your own children, do not say we did not warn you about your unnatural ways.
Now get the fuck out of here. You are fuckin’ crazy. Boys do not wear headbands or like the pink color or play with dolls. Boys fight with boys, play soccer, learn martial arts and drown their GI Joe action figures in the bottom of the bathtub.
Oh my god you’re such dickwads! Again, my comment has been deleted because you didn’t like it. Seriously man, are you so fucking insecure that you can’t take a bit of criticism?!
… You know, you’re really asking for a trolling…
I’m a heterosexual male going out with a really hot girl ten years younger than me, my girlfriend before that was a burlesque dancer.. and you know what, I think pink is a great color. It’s bright and fun by nature. Who wouldn’t like it?! Who cares what a kid wants to wear, he’s a kid, let him follow his passions and interests. He’ll be a better man for doing so.
As a gay man who actually values masculinity, ironically rare in a group which supposedly loves men, I have mixed feelings about this article. But if I had to choose, I’d take the WalMart guy over “Vyktoriah” any day.(But the pic you chose as WalMart faggot-hating guy? Definitely a gay man.)
As a gay man who actually values masculinity, ironically rare in a group which supposedly loves men, I have mixed feelings about this article. But if I had to choose, I’d take the WalMart guy over “Vyktoriah” any day.(But the pic you chose as WalMart faggot-hating guy? Definitely a gay man.)
A gay man brought up to look and seem masculine will not be at a disadvantage in adulthood; an effeminate man will be at a disadvantage as a straight male, and even likely as a gay male (eg, indicators of masculinity are associated with positions of leadership).
I’ve met enough women like Vyktoriah to know that it’s likely not her son innocently choosing this on his own; he’s probably the subject of her instigating him to act this way.
I see a lot of hatred directed at the mothers in this, but not a lot pointed at Mr Goldstein… Come on guys, he’s a tool.
I see a lot of hatred directed at the mothers in this, but not a lot pointed at Mr Goldstein… Come on guys, he’s a tool.
Homophobic, disgusting article
I also wanted to add I believe people are born “gay or strait” and if that id their choice I am ok with that and see nothing wrong. As someone pointed out below some of the most masculine guys I know and the biggest guys at the gym are gay. So just because someone is gay does not mean they are not masculine.
Now, where the problem occurs is when mothers dress their heterosexual son that way and encourage feminine behavior. Women want a man like that for a “friend” or if they are in a relationship with a man like that they will cheat with the tough masculine man. All the while the feminine man is at home cleaning up after this woman and doing her dishes!
I have first hand experience with this issue. I was once the little boy in the cart. Raised by a single mother that hated men. I was always taught the disasterous ideal that being a man and manly thing is “wrong”.
I have healed from this over the course of decades. I would be willing to write more about my story for this blog if anyone is interested. Please contact me and I will write a piece. A lot of guys likely went through the same thing as me.
And people wonder why I don’t date, have a girlfriend or wife, or children, or do anything other than treat women with deliberately distant respect. It’s gotten me labelled as gay many times. But you know something? I don’t give a damn. I may die early but I will die free. And I ain’t gay …
Good for you, brother. Sex ain’t everything.
Effeminate men are delicious. My life is pretty much dedicated to this maxim (in work as well as relationships) and I don’t really care whether or not I’m a minority among women in thinking it. But I do exist. No one who acts effeminate around me is crippling his chances of getting laid. Quite the opposite.
That is simply because you want control. You want to feel safe.
Submitting yourself to your job and controlling effeminate weak men both in the office and after work completes you.
You enjoy the feelings of power and powerlesness. They both act like a compass when searching for your exact place within the social hierarchy.
It is like a dream come true. Just like finding Jesus or achieving the Nirvana. You live life to its fullest, right?
Power is a bad drug, just like sugar, chocolate, tobacco, alcohol, caffeine and etcetera. By the way, do you snort cocaine? That one is bad too.
Effeminate men and masculinized women educate their children to serve the needs of powerful and wealthy people. They offer their sons and daughters to the God of the Corporation and the God of the Government in sacrifice and exchange for the possibility of a better job and more social recognition/higher social status.
Do you have any idea of how awesome Anarchism is? You are free to think and live however it pleases you as long as you do not impose your will on others.
You need some of that, a little bit of cannabis and a new group of friends.
That would make sense if I was remotely dominant outside of the bedroom. Or even with my partners outside of sex- most of them have been very self-possessed and we haven’t always had monogamous relationships. They’re free to come and go as they please. All I’m interested in is some occasional companionship and enjoying their beauty. And cocaine is way too upper class of a drug for me, even if I wasn’t almost teetotal because of my fitness regime.
Your focus on disavowing power and control (you claim to reject corporatism and big government, as well as what you see as an inherent attempt to control non-effeminate men in a simple declaration of appreciation for effeminate ones) is interesting to me, seeing as you are apparently endorsing an ideology that significantly controls what people’s gender expression should be. It’s amusing to see that you and others believe that parents doing this are making a conscious attempt to replace the form of hegemonic gender this site espouses with another form of hegemonic gender where effeminate men and masculine women are the ideal. Those parents definitely believe they are just letting their kids do whatever they want as regards to gender roles, and that ~alpha males~ and camp queens can coexist without crisis. You don’t have to believe that that will be the end result, but it is telling that the language on the gender neutral side is “live and let live, the super-masculine men are fine as long as they don’t restrict the freedom of others by denigrating their way of life and trying to annihilate it,” while the other side is “effeminate men and masculine women threaten us just by existing, we must purge or convert them all.” So why does the second statement appeal to you, as someone who supposedly disavows power? If you’re a traditionally masculine man, both systems include you, so it only makes sense to conclude that you don’t feel secure unless the Other is entirely excluded from society.
So the conclusion is that men who do not appreciate the beauty of homosexuality and tranvestitechildren are insecure. And also that I am an anarchist because I try to control other people’s sex lives. And that anarchistshate the corporations and governments becaus these promote and reinforce effeminatevalues among men.
Oh, my god. I have been lying to myself all these years.
Don’t be wilfully dense, by “insecure” I didn’t mean you are secretly closet homosexuals or anything like that. I meant that the site seems to believe the traditional heterosexual lifestyle is in peril due to the increased visibility of people who don’t follow that lifestyle. There is no evidence for this peril. The suggestion isn’t that you and these other commenters must appreciate or like effeminacy, merely that it should in no way bother you. The healthy response is to simply ignore the existence of children like the one in the article. They pose no threat to traditionally masculine/feminine men and women. Yet these people apparently won’t rest until all the people not like them go away. Hence the celebration of this imaginary man for insulting a child who was probably too young to even realize his behaviour was considered effeminate. Everyone should bully children until they stop being fucking faggots, apparently, even though it would have no effect on masculine heterosexual men’s quality of life and make everyone else miserable as shit.
On the stuff about anarchism, you’re not making much sense. You’re the one that linked anarchism to disavowing effeminacy, by suggesting that tolerating effeminacy is inherently corporatist and supportive of government. I am aware that anarchism isn’t founded on beliefs about gender. To be honest I find this a bizarre tangent. If you are an anarchist, why on earth do you support and follow a site that is far more prescriptive about what people do with their personal freedom than I (an apparent “power addict”) am? The whole reason it exists is to propagate the idea that hypermasculinity is the only acceptable type of masculinity, and thus convert or suppress other types of men (and the same with femininity and women). If you aren’t an anarchist, why even bring up anarchism?
So the second and hopefully last conclusion is that I am not anarchist because I support this site. And you don’t like it. Because the guys here say whatever the fuck they want and don’t give a shit if you are on your period or just having a bad hair day.
Let us read the title again: Return of Kings – for masculine men.
You don’t even surround yourself with masculine men. Your men are all rainbow faggots.
What are we supposed to learn from you?
Wait, here comes your final conclusion. Hopefully it is the final one.
Some women prefer effeminate men. If that’s your thing, then go for it.
These women really don’t understand what they are doing. When these frustrated, sexually confused boys finally snap guess who is usually at the top of their hit list?
WalMart man isn’t a homophobe, he’s a smelly, roided up, culturless jackass, neanderthal, blue collar working redneck, and just short of being a convict because of this altercation.
I defend the motive for the behaviour, not the behaviour itself. If we want to continue living in a free society where not being verbally assaulted by moronic roid monkeys because something is an affront to them, then the law should be observed, and this behaviour neutralized.
If Walmart guy really wanted to make a difference, then he should be a good role model to young men, not some abusive simpleton without a temper.
People aren’t raised to be gay. People have a roughly 75-25 split between biological factors and environmental.
I am homosexual, but never have never been effeminate. I was in many ways the man of the house after my parents divorced. Though it appears many men in this so called “red pill” movement are clearly homophobic, there is actually a lot of parallels that could be drawn and help folks understand relationship dynamics within gay partnerships.
I have been with my partner for 4 years now, and we definitely have developed our own roles in our household, and somehow those roles mirror exactly the power exchange that occurs in a “traditional” heterosexual relationship, minus the child bearing/rearing.
The funny thing is, many gay men are not attracted to other gay men for the same reasons women don’t like hetero “beta” men–they crave dominance and structure from the men they are attracted to. This leaves the few masculine gay men with an abundance of suitors to choose from, as most gay men behave just like the modern western woman.
I don’t think this community is too far off track, but I’d probably suggest easing up on the homophobic angle. It’s got little to do with masculinity, as gender, masculinity/femininity and sexual orientation are all unique and independent aspects of a person.
well said
Thanks Zeqw. Honestly, I wanted to also point out that “Wal-Mart Man” is probably gay. Many men in the leather community who wear chains like that to show they are “owned” by a Daddy or Master. So, it’s kinda doubly funny to me.
Echoes what I said below:
” A gay man brought up to look and seem masculine will not be at a disadvantage in adulthood; an effeminate man will be at a disadvantage as a straight male, and even likely as a gay male (eg, indicators of masculinity are associated with positions of leadership).”
So gay or straight, being an effeminate man is a disadvantage. There is no reason to promote it.
There isn’t anything wrong with being effeminate. Effeminate does not equal weak. Without the feminine, there will be no masculine. There should be a balance.
I frequent this site and rarely ever see any homophobia, not even in the comment section. What you need to understand, it that people on this site don’t value sensitivity over truth, so if a group of people are used to PC language it may come across as crude and insensitive, but I doubt there’s much true antagonism against homosexuals here.
I’m merely stating the truth that the use of the word faggot in a derogatory sense is homophobic by definition. That being said, if I felt there was true homophobia on this site, I wouldn’t have read it or commented. I’m just saying, you could express that the woman is damaging her son’s manhood without using a homophobic slur. The truth is that (if this story is true) she may be damaging her son’s future manhood. Which had nothing to do with sexuality, which was my point. I’m a man and a homosexual. Two different parts of identity. You can be a effeminate straight or a masculine homosexual. The two are often clumsily used interchangeably, but they are not. Gender Identity does not equal sexuality.
I’m not too concerned with political correctness, as I understand that many non-homophobic straight men, and even gay men (like myself) understand the word “faggot” has a colloquial definition where it means any behavior that is bullshit. So all is well, but I’m just commenting on the irony that, again, the guy in the picture looks like a gay guy you’d see in the leather scene. So he, by definition, is also a faggot.
Anyway, it’s not really an argument, just making an observation.
OH SHIT A GAY GUY JUST POSTED ON HERE!!!! SHOULDN’T I JUST KILL MYSELF FOR BEING GAY! haha, you guys are funny, the fact that you guys are a legit website is hillarious.
It is funny but also offensive.
Soo this site is anti gay? The story (even if it’s fake) says the boy WANTED to wear the headband. Forcing him to remove it for the sake of heterosexuality is ok, but letting him dress effeminately is immoral child abuse? Come on guys, grow the fuck up.
Yeah, apparently this site is ran by a bunch of insecure, misogynistic guys that need to bully women, fat people, feminists, and other different people because they want to boost their egos along with a bunch of drones that probably lead miserable lives because they hate themselves.
The fact that this article exists is disgusting, no matter whether the story is fake or not.. disapproval of homosexuality is just as valid and acceptable a belief as any other, but this is just bigotry.
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Its sad that women can dress like men but men are refused and outcasted for dressing like or even similar to women because truthfully men find it ‘degrading’ to dress like us.
Double standards that suck.
Whats wrong with letting the kid express himself? He’s not asking for your opinion, he’s being who he is. He looks like he is no older than 5.
Its not okay for him to dress up just a bit. I bet the author, and “wall mart man” Dressed up in mommy’s make up, dresses, and shoes at that age as well.
typo: Is it no okay for him to dress up just a bit.
so the walmart guy is a good guy for bullying a child? sound like hes the faggot
That may be true. If a guy is bullying a child because of that, they may have some sort of repressed homosexuality in them. I mean if he does have some sort of gaydar then maybe he himself may be in the closet. A person who is comfortable in their sexuality does not bully others because they don’t think they are straight.
PS I have a lesbian aunt
I want walmart man to plow my big gay ass while i drink his cum
As a homosexual male if I met any of you in public I’d cut your throat, shit down your mouth and then torch your bodies with gasoline.
What Katy Perry song would you have playing while you commit murderous felonies?
Andrew Cunanan?
I support you being gay. BTW I’m a straight guy but I respect everyone regardless unless you are bigot then that’s different, of course. Yeah a lot of the guys in this site are pissing me off and more so the author who is a well-known loser playboy named Roosh.
And if i met you in public i would cut off your penis, pull out your teeth and stick it in your mouth. Heterphobe!
Fabulous
okay say what you want about any of this but how the fuck would you condone the abuse of a child from some fucking stranger in a store? the kid explicitly said “no” and this fucking macho jackass hit him. hit a child. what the fuck why are you all fine with that.
and why is it the mother’s fault? the little boy was the one who wanted to wear the fucking flower in the first place. a small child should not be blamed for the actions of a fucking grown man. that guy didn’t have to smack that kid and frankly had no right to. where is the self-control? where is the common sense? don’t fucking smack other people’s children, don’t tell other people how to raise their children, don’t interfere with shit that is not your business why is that a difficult concept to grasp
I don’t condone what the guy did but he definitely had a point, and “mama bear’s” histrionic overreaction didn’t help matters.
It’s just idiotic and at total variance with all the evidence that one can raise their children to choose a certain sexual orientation. Think about how strong the average males attraction to women is, and the amount of energy he will invest in trying to have sex with them. Do you really think putting some nail polish on a kid is going to turn that strong biological urge off and redirect it elsewhere? You can certainly make an argument that raising males to be passive and encouraging their more feminine traits while downplaying their masculine ones might undermine their ability to become players later on. Although there is still no definitive genetic component to sexual orientation, there is also no provable model to encourage or “turn” someone gay. All anecdotal evidence from people who identify as homosexual is that their attractions were something they were aware of very early in their lives and in general did not correlate with their environment. To be sure environment might play a role in how one then responds to and manifests their attractions, but nature seems to be more important that nurture. For the record I had all kinds of older women putting nail polish and make up on me when I was very young because they thought it was funny or whatever. It had zero effect on my ability or desire to bed lots of women.
Sexual orientation is not changeable. You will always be straight.
this website is hilarious, better than the onion!!! :’)
To all you sissy boys, hold my beer while I make out with your woman.
Oh my gosh! Time travel is real! The author of this article *must* be from the Middle Ages!! Share your secrets, oh great Emmanuel!
what the fuck is wrong with all of you
Going around and assaulting a toddler with no justification other than an article of clothing said toddler was clad in made him resemble a gender antipodal to his bona fide identity, somehow comes across to what your warped mind perceives as putative. Notwithstanding the reality that this website is made to enrage another for your personal satisfaction, the line should be drawn at suggesting physical assault, especially against a toddler, to be a portrayal of valor.
tl;dr You are not, in any definition of the term, humorous.
I thought we aren’t responding to homosexuals and women? why are you, my red-pill brothers, responding to homosexual men?
He’s doing god’s work.
Yep.
Walmart-Man was an angel sent by God.
Is this entire site a satirical ruse? It honestly seems that way. Overt dramatization, such as what I’ve seen in the few articles I’ve read here, is one of the most feminine characteristics I can think of.
Another lady that wants her 15 minutes of fame by imagining “Walmart Man”.
You people need to toughen up instead of being offended all the time. Too many men wear dresses and bows in their hair anyway. We don’t need more gay people on the planet.
That last bitch is ugly as Fuck
That man is an American hero.
This saying is true, “It takes a village to raise a child.” With our child abuse laws today, it’s not wonder my generation is all heavily medicated and sexually frustrated.
The worst thing is the comforting so he’ll always run to mama if something doesn’t work out right.
Two words..Wal Mart.
I’ll bet the jezebel made up the whole thing just to try and push her social justice cuntiness agenda on unsuspecting dolts. Anyone who willingly goes to Huffpo for fun and “education” belongs to an alternative universe where gay equals normal, abortion equals constitutional and Xx > XY
Even if this article is true, it’s just another reminder of what happens when Men abdicate their responsibility role to stupid and dishonorable females who regard their children as social justice experiments in the petri dish of society.
Every female who puts their child through this should be investigated by CFS and have their kids taken away for reckless and shoddy parenting.
Then again, the State isn’t that much better so i guess the kid is F’d either way.
She is a basketcase and her son is a fruitcake, millions of them on facebook, prancing around their little tulip of a boy
” The old stereotype of Jewish mothers may apply – it’s to keep them from leaving home and falling in love with a woman who isn’t his mother.” — Very true, especially when you consider that on a societal level, Male Homosexuality is more accepted than in ‘the old days’ — back then a repressed male “mama’s boy” unable to find a woman for himself might stay with his mother as she ages to take care of her. Today such a male has no reason to repress his non-masculine sexuality and between societal acceptance and the internet, can leave home and find a mate (a perverted female, a gay male, a transgender, what have you). Single mothers following the biological impulse for a man to take care of them will have to emasculate their sons more and more in order to keep them from leaving the home and finding a mate.
I’ll take “Feminist Fanfiction” for 1,000.
That last picture though LOL
Why do I get the feeling that Walmart Man isn’t even real? A mythological hero to us a mythological monster to feminists and homos
The way feminists fabricate their stories is real though. Lot of women take a story and add parts in it that was going on in their imagination. They take a mere glance from a mean looking guy that slightly brushed past her making her stumble a little but instead she says he grabbed her and threw her to the ground
The sheer cheek of women who openly feminize their sons never fails to infuriate me. How disgustingly egotistical and corrupt, twisted and selfish must you be that in your desperation to remake your child in your own image you don’t even stop to consider the fact that you’re perverting him from his own nature as a male?
I don’t care what you think about her kid. You don’t just go up, and grab someone’s kid like that.
Not if you don’t want to be shot.
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Try to grab my son, I don’t care how “gay” you think he is….
One of us isn’t leaving that store alive.
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I have a concealed carry license, and I’m not afraid to use it.
Keep your hands to yourself.
Also: Why in the fuck, do you care if someone is gay or not?
More pussy for you, right?
Why do you give a shit?
Who made you the fucking gender police in the first place?
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There’s more than enough macho fuckheads, trying to screw everything that moves.
Someone that doesn’t want to be apart of that scene, just means less competition for you.
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A “gay looking toddler” isn’t a threat to you, you psycho fucks.
Some muscled bound, Aryan douchebag physically harasses a 5 year old….
And you fucking applaud?
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Be as gay as you want to kids.
And if someone gives you shit for not being “manly” enough, and physically threatens you…
That’s when you reach for your revolver.
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Do not let evil, souless monsters suck you down, and teach you self hatred.
Do not let them teach you, that you’re only purpose in life is to be the biggest, most violent sperm receptacle
Do not let these garbage people influence you.
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You stand your ground, ask for your space.
If they violate that space, physically threaten you, demean you, place you in danger….
Do not hesitate to pull that trigger.
This article I think was summed up much clearer in this piece, anyway:
Education for Death:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l14WDZCnz-w&t=4m45s