The Relationship Whore

Lindsey

Lindsey is a 24-year-old girl. Most would rate her as a 7.5, maybe an 8. She lost her virginity at the age of 17, to a serious boyfriend. Since that time, she has had four more “serious” boyfriends spanning various relationship lengths, from a few months to a couple of years. So, in seven years she has had a total of five serious boyfriends. In addition to that, she slept with three other guys as rebounds, and had two one night stands when she was drunk. She also blew a “couple” of guys when she was in Cabo on spring break in college, but she doesn’t really count that.

This puts the total number of guys she has slept with at ten.

Lindsey goes on a lot of dates, almost as if it’s a sport to her. She is hooked on OKCupid, Tinder, POF, and any other site that gives her the opportunity to meet friends. She is always eager to talk about her past relationships, whilst making it very clear to the “lucky” man sitting next to her at the bar that she “isn’t like other girls”; i.e. she doesn’t sleep around very much. She makes it clear, up front, that she is looking and ready to start a new relationship, despite her last “serious” relationship ending just months ago. She tends to get her hopes up on every date, only to be dropped off disappointed at the end of the night—disappointed that her Prince Charming was not buying her $15 Cosmo drink. He just didn’t “have it” for her, but she’ll find the right one, she rationalizes to herself.

Lindsey thinks she is a good girl, because she mostly just has sex with men whom she is in relationships with. Anytime she is alone, she feels inadequate, as if she needs someone to complete her. She very much dislikes it and longs for the compassion and comfort of a relationship.

While Lindsey does get in a lot of relationships, she is never quite sure why they end. They seem to just lose the fire and peter out; sometimes she dumps the guy, and sometimes she gets dumped. Either way, the breakups are often relatively amicable while the two partners go their separate ways.

The next week, she is out with a man from Tinder, telling him how she can’t wait to find the one.

Sarah

Sarah is also a 24-year-old girl. Most would rate her as a 7.5, maybe an 8. She lost her virginity at the age of 16, to a short-term boyfriend. Since that time, she has had two more “serious boyfriends,” both of which lasted for two years, respectively. So, in eight years she has had a total of two serious boyfriends. In between, she had seven flings/FWB situations (mostly lasting 3-6 months, and sometimes two at the same time), and three one night stands. She also blew a “couple” of guys when she was in Costa Rica on spring break in college, but she doesn’t really count that.

This puts the total number of guys she has slept with at thirteen.

Sarah rarely goes on dates, preferring to spend time with her female friends during the week and participating in her own hobbies. She had a Tinder account, but got tired of it after a few days; preferring to meet men through her social circle. When she actually does go on dates, she doesn’t go on it with any expectations. She is open about her sexual past and general sexuality, and makes it clear that she tries not to sleep around but sometimes it “just happens.” Her low expectations lead to her feeling very neutral about many dates at the end of the night—perhaps slightly excited if she liked him, but if it went poorly, she generally moves past it.

Sarah realizes that she is not a perfect angel because of her previous promiscuity. When she is alone, she feels okay about herself. She would like to meet someone whom she really clicks with, but is okay spending nights at home by herself.

While Sarah does not get in relationships often, the two she had were both passionate. Both times, there were clear differences as to why the relationships could not move further forward. Out of her two serious boyfriends, she dumped one and the other dumped her.

The next week, she is out and has a one night stand and regrets it greatly.

Who would you pick – Sarah or Lindsey?

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137 thoughts on “The Relationship Whore”

    1. Took the words right outta my mouth….. bet they both could suck the chrome off a trailer hitch! Good for pumpin’ and dumpin’…….

    2. Both are sluts.
      Any woman who’s had ONS, or has been some guy’s FWB is automatically a slut in my book, and not worth any of my time.

        1. Lots. The difference is, we have to actually try and put ungodly effort into getting them, YOU just have to point at someone in the room and check and see if your pulse is still intact.

        2. Thats true for most women, there are women out there who can’t do that. It does prompt me to urge guys to have higher standards on whom they will sleep with. Wold help things in the long run.

  1. If I had to choose at gun point, Sarah. Their must be something wrong with Lindsey if so many relationships failed. Sarah is more honest about the current culture she lives in

      1. women like that r exhausting +suffocating. been calling one mom for years. problem is they have no place where they stop and allow u to b. their identity is to mimic yours and tend to b glory seekers. want to b in th emiddle of everything, your life.. the ultimate diva princess… don’t cheat, look at other women..
        that’s y I call myself a secular conservative and a primary pluralist, meaning I have no interest in traditional monogamy but interest in having an official lead in my rotation who can have a say on the rest of the plural order.. perhaps share a sister or friend or 2. have to work out the boundaries.

    1. Agreed, if nothing else Sarah seems like the type you could have a fling with and stay in touch after; maybe having the occasional FWB night or something that turns in to a relationship over time. Lindsey sounds like the girl looking for a guy who can buy her the life she wants

      1. ..as she blames u for every unhappiness or hole in her unexamined life. hey I had a gangbang, its ur fault for leaving me alone last night, not being here for our anniversary. I drank all the alcohol because u let it out in the open when I was weak, its ur fault I may b an alcoholic.. y aren’t u more accountable for my own feelings? these r total energy and foci drains, can never b open or honest with them on anything. these unexamined types r never fully happy, no clue whats enough, where the line of life is.. no matter how idiotic, ur supposed to b “decent”, put up with it, never b disappointed, walk on eggshells due to their constant rage and vindictiveness, on and on.. they must grasp at some point that the princess role sucks but rather than blame daddy+others who imprinted it in her, they forever take it out on boyfriends+others who could care less as they get incrementally more bitter. this soon creates the self-fulfilling prophecy as they attract more guys not down with the impossible expectations+all the narcissism and entitlement issues.. cant examine your life when u only look beyond you for any answers

  2. It’s easy to pick from the two girls when you have a clear cut description of both of their mentalities. Life, however, is not so generous. How many times have you seen a girl that looks pretty good on paper, only to discover after a month of seeing her she is not what she seems and has deeper flaws that cannot even be fixed with a few moments of introspection per day or week.
    Instead of focusing on others, focus on yourself. Focus on making yourself better by learning new skills, taking up new hobbies, learning a new language, and continuing to consistently work out. This will help YOU stand out from the pack and build your self confidence. Hopefully, you will develop a mentality and realize that you do not need anyone to define your own happiness because your own happiness depends on yourself and not on others. You just may find women of a higher calibre presenting themselves to you instead.
    I caveat, with the fact that this does not mean you are not immune to the bullshit from the Lindseys and the Sarahs of the world. It does mean, however, that you now hold the cards in deciding whether or not to continue any kind of relationship with women because you are no longer putting her on a pedestal. It took me a long time to learn this lesson, and I urge other men to seek a path that improves themselves rather than focusing on the flaws of others. Good Luck!

    1. Great comment about the “girl that looks pretty good on paper, only to discover after a month of
      seeing her she is not what she seems and has deeper flaws”. A few years ago (pre redpill), I started seeing a divorced woman who I was head over heels about. After a month, she told me she needed to be “honest” about her past to future relationships, so she proceeded to tell me about 1) her previous bulimia 2) her previous hardcore drug use 3) she cheated on her then husband 4) how she sees a shrink on a regular basis 5) …I think I tuned out after the first 4 “honest statements”. Did I mention she had short hair and 3 tattoos? You know, sometimes I look back on my pre redpill life and just shake my head.

      1. I have been on dates where she would be “open an honest about her life” and from whence came a torrent of sordid tales and “incidents” revolving mainly her and credit cards maxed, cars wrecked, friends and boyfriends in jail, families destroyed, and at least one dead dog.
        Like a beta stooge, I would ask “well, why did you do it?”
        You know something? They ALL get the same look in their eyes when they say “Well, I was diagnosed bipolar….”
        That pop psychology diagnosis has given women a license to destroy their own lives and the lives of everybody around them and not have one ounce of regret or remorse about their actions. This is one of the reasons why they get so fat, because it even gets into their eating habits, this lifetime of having no perception of consequences or responsibility.
        The only reason why they manage to reproduce is due to thirsty betas.

    2. True that. Go beta bitch with either of these women and it’ll bring out the Demonic Cuntlord in them.

  3. To hell with them both. I’d introduce them to my unspoiled beauty from overseas and announce to all western women that it’s game over, baby!

    1. I’ve been seeing two girls lately, one has been with one guy before me, the other with 0 (a virgin). I read once that once a girl gets into a double digit partner count it’s too much, I think 2-3 is my limit.

      1. I once was communicating with a girl, sounded great, was saying all the right things. Then, I had to ask the inevitable question…How many partners have you had?…She response with 8 (mind you, she was in a LTR so the bulk of this number came after said relationship). My tone immediately changed and she figured that was over my limit. i said yes and that was that.

        1. Take whatever number a woman gives you and double it. That number will be closer to the truth, more often than not.
          À bientôt,
          Mistral

        2. If a man ever asked me how many partners I had been with, I would simply reply “Probably as many as you have.”

        3. That’s a scary thought too. What seems like a double standard really isn’t. Women become broken the more partners she has. Men can separate love and FWB or ONS a hell of a lot easier than a woman. Simple biology, evolution. Pair Bonding, that old chestnut. Women absolutely lose the ability to pair bond the more cock she’s had. A woman’s ‘notch count’ is more like a failure count, not that any would admit it. A 3 dick count is a fair limit for any woman as far as relationships. Otherwise, make sure you wrap it! One thing’s for sure: Assume she’s had as much sex as you have. Yikes!

    2. one she becomes americnized, she’ll b a slut 2.. check out Eddie murphy’s delirious. fems get more slutty not the other way around.. like all with freedoms!

  4. It’s clear for me to choose Lindsay. I mean even though she has consumed more penises, it’s with a condom I’d fuck her. I don’t want to have a relationship so she’s obviously easier to bed thatn Sarah.

  5. If you’re after a one night stand, it doesn’t matter which you pick. If you want something long term, then run a mile from either of these two. But if I had to choose, I’d watch to see who had the greater oral fixation.

  6. Both sound good for a fling. Sarah is of course the better choice for a LTR if someone puts a gun to your head and forces you to choose between the two. Neither of them are relationship-worthy in my opinion. Each having blown a couple of dudes on every bloody vacation? Consider that little did-bit every time she has a girls-night-out or mini-vacation.

  7. In my early 20’s I dated two girls that were almost identical to these descriptions. The Rachel was the first one and I’d say the better, but she must of had bipolar disorder. She would go from super happy and energetic to incredibly sad and angry at the drop of the hat. I had to break it of with the Lindsey I dated because she was just too damn needy for validation. Our relationship was supposed to be like a Disney fairytale for her.
    In the end, the Lindsey is going to be more feminine, but she will also be much more high maintenance. While the Rachel will be less maintenance, but she will be slightly more masculine. Honestly, I’d think most people on this site would prefer the Lindsey because of that. The fact that she has been in so many “serious relationships” means that it really shouldn’t bother you that much when you decide to break it off.

  8. The amount of electricity generated from the Hamster Wheel of the first girl could power an American city for a year.

    1. “The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.” — Alberto Brandolini

    2. Indeed. The sentimental whores are worst kind.
      An openly sexual woman will quickly reject you or fuck you. The sentimental whores are so insecure that they go from one beta provider to another, neither loving nor sexualy satisfying them. Many times, they choose the next beta months in advance, dump the current, then go for one month in a period of “social mourn”.
      They fear alphas, until the blue ovaries become so bad they: turn into super whores, have a couple ONS (with great remorse), marry a beta, and/or buy 3 cats, in no particular order.

    3. And combining both of their hamsters, possibly an entire state could be powered for a year.

  9. For an ONS, Sarah; for an LTR, neither. They’re more similar than it seems though. I can at least appreciate Sarah’s honesty though. Girls like Lindsay are more insecure than anything else.

  10. Is there supposed to be some large margin of preference between the two of them? If so I’m not seeing it.

    1. No. That’s digging too deep. The point is to be wary of these types, not to choose IMO. No difference in either. Big red flags on both of them.

  11. This goes to show why we need women to stay traditionally religious, though we men have other options. The social science data indicate that religious belief acts as a weak constraint on people’s behavior, but on the margin it might suffice to keep some women from ruining themselves for stable relationships with men. We can handle philosophy, skepticism and critical thinking, but when most women try it, they embarrass themselves; so men who understand this should bring up their daughters in a conservative religious tradition to protect these girls from their own bad judgment until they can get married to conservative, patriarchal men who also “get it” about what they have to do to maintain a livable society.

    1. Your idea is something that I will consider, if I ever feel the need for children. Thank you for expressing it.

      1. If you want kids, find some young woman (like early, early 20s) in a foreign country where they don’t speak English and learn to like that kind of food, wherever she’s from. Better if you can live there.
        À bientôt,,
        Mistral

        1. What about the local dude who already banged her, because he knew already knew how to game her?

        2. Do you think, on average, she’s going to be more fucked in the head, or less fucked in the head, that a Western chick?
          She’s also going (a) more likely to have skills applicable to motherhood and (b) more likely to appreciate the value of a man who can be a good father–remember, I was replying to a specific post about a guy possibly wanting kids in the future.
          À bientôt,
          Mistral

    2. Puhleaze. Ive got an active member of the church gal on rotation. I bet your kids alimony I won’t count when she gets married. ENJOY THE DECLINE.

    3. Dude.
      The churches are infested with people who think that repenting on Sunday gives them all week to be a douche nozzle.
      You want to know what “religious” women have? They have a “captive audience”. When I hear a woman say she turns to the church to find a man, I know that in practice what she’s doing is looking for a playing field more advantageous to her low SMV. In fact only scant observation will reveal that women never seem to find God when they are 22 and hot. But suddenly it happens when they are 35 and gravity is kicking in.

      1. What edgy fedora wearers believe christians do:
        Every week I go to church.
        I “confess“ my sins to the priest, and give him a knowing wink.
        He winks back. You`re sins are forgiven my son.
        Then he whispers `nail one for me, Asadada. I say Ì always do, father
        Then we have a half hour speach about how to go around pretending that we`re trying to be good (but really just act bad, he he) and we give money, to pay our way into heaven, and then we go back to our normal lives of spitting on the good, wholesome people, who are too smart to come to church with us mindless slave hypocrites.

      2. ‘Religious’ types also tend to be more adept at anal, handjobs and oral. All what they don’t consider as sex itself.

  12. Dumb question, but whats the larger point here? That our options in the West come down to a preference of one type of whore over another?

  13. Can I get what’s behind door #3? It’s unfortunate that this seems to be the norm now. Quality women are an endangered species.

    1. tons of quality women, bringing in outdated tea party hypocritical expectations is the problem. yep, we don’t want any1 with double digit sexual partners, eh.. r u in double digits? if yep, STFU! the same effects u whine about, she can whine about. as the fem slut gets addicted or used to the penis, same happens with the male slut to the vag. whats good for the goose is good for the gander? no right to expect what u don’t do.. women in most cases can make the argument that they are naturally hornier esp in their heat period or in menopausal transition. as u fight and control your hormones, she may as well. seems to work for brad pitt and Angelina jolie. both were huge whores til marriage. fems (what feminism exploits) wont put up with the sexual hypocrisy of men anymore

  14. Nothing was mentioned about a threesome. I f they haven’t tried that already, I would talk them into it. Apparently if a man is persuasive enough and the chicks have a couple of drinks they can be talked into anything. A threesome is always a good deal in such cases, where you have to think about it and try make up your mind on which one to pick. Stay calm and do not forget that sluts can be fun! They can’t be good wives because after having more than a dozen different dicks they become very familiar with the subject and will always be looking for more.

    1. Best advice here. My wife was with her GF last night at a baseball game. I picked them both up to drop the GF off at her place and both of them kept saying how much they loved each other. Next thing you know (no threesome for me), both of them gave me handjobs on the drive back. Sluts ARE fun. Never forget that.
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  15. My friend dated a “Lindsey”. It was sad because you could see how empty she was inside. Anytime he wasn’t with her she would demand that he talks to her on the phone, fb chats her, texts her back immediately no matter what was going on in his life. She would always yell at him when shit didnt go like a Disney Princess movie. Me and our group of friends warned him about her. It didn’t take until after the break up though. These girls can sneak up on you easier than a ” Sarah” can so tread carefully when a girl has had many ltrs.

  16. If I were on a ship, and Lindsey fell overboard one side and was drowning, and Sarah fell overboard on the other side and was also drowning, and all I had was one life preserver, I would turn the ship around and run them both over, being sure that prop chops them up so the crabs can feast and these women finally have some use in this world.

  17. Sarah. This was the key fact for me: “she had a Tinder account but got tired of it after a few days.”
    It’s a foregone conclusion that you’re supposed to pick one. You don’t have to qualify it with “if someone put a gun to my head.” It’s the game where you choose knowing that both choices are bad, but you say which one is worse through your choice.

  18. 10 and 13 are both waaaay beyond any reasonable number of cocks for anyone who is supposed to later raise children and tend to a home. One would hope guys spending hours learning “game”, didn’t do so just to be stuck pretending one of these two are some sort of worthy catch.

    1. I think this is why many are going mgtow since this is primarily what they have to choose from in Amerika… I prefer to think that I spent hours learning game to better myself around foreign women as I have completely given up on females around me.

      1. Actually, this is more and more what you have to chose from in the rest of world. Smartphone and dating websites are making their way everywhere

        1. You’re right up to a point, but in many places there is a strong defence against the evils of feminism. Yes young women have smartphones and some will use the online dating sites – but they are used in different ways, with some sites pretty much aiming at those looking for marriage.
          Not always but far more than the west. Go to India and you will find a pretty solid chunk of society who will not go to bed before marriage. Of course this is far more so in Muslim countries. But in India there are even among the more westernised groups far stronger families than in the west and the idea that a father would let his daughter get fucked by a man because some feminists told her it would be liberating etc is considered laughable by many – as it is it would of course destroy her chances of marriage and true love. That girl will happily go on dates, go to the cinema, kiss a guy once she has been “going around” with him as they say but anything sexual? With many, I suspect most, it’s just a striaghtforward “no”. You want that? Ok then marry her and provide for her life and children. Amazing isn’t it that the feminists have convinced western women that giving up love and marriage in exchanged for blowjobs in a nightclub and random sex was a good deal for the women?
          Of course there are different areas, and some places where it’s easier to get laid than the west but there are still decent virgins out there.

    2. Game works for all women – irrespective of whether she is a whore or a Madonna. There is a whore, slut, bitch and Madonna in every woman. It doesn’t take time for a woman to switch between either of those archetypes.

      1. also every guy can b gamed for we also have those traits.. y r we so stupid? every guy can b a whore, pimp, slut, bitch, dick and jesus/joseph type! grow up people….

  19. Great article, Troublemaker.
    The article exposes the hidden truth about the ‘good girls’ for most men. That women today usually are ‘relationship whores’ – if not actual sluts or whores.
    What is a ‘relationship whore’? The relationship whore is the whore or slut who fucks around in the the search of the ‘perfect man’ or ‘perfect relationship’. A classic tell of her personality is that she is in ‘love with love’, or in love with relationships. She can’t live without men not because she can’t live without cock alone, but because she can’t live without or wants to be in a relationship. Her expectations are unrealistically high, and she projects her failings onto the personalities of the men , because they can’t live up to her unrealistic demands. In short, the only relationship in the end she’s most likely to end up is with her fellow single women friends, or her cats.
    Basically, her hamster tells her it is to fuck around in the search for romance or relationship, and not for casual sex. That’s enough rationalization for her to open her holes for men. She doesn’t consider her a slut, while she might instead ridicule other women who are more honest than her who’d fuck around openly for sex and random cocks. The relationship whore is a dangerous whore, because her self delusion makes her believe that her past slutting about in the search of love is above reproach. She doesn’t realize she’s equally slutty like the real sluts or whores, and that’s a great red flag about her. She never admits her mistakes, because she sees her dysfunctional world through rose colored deluded eyes.
    Both the girls described are relationship whores in this article. It’s not to choose which one of them, it’s for us to understand the mind of such women. Sarah and Lindsey are two examples of relationship whores. Remember these archetypes, gentlemen, to spot such whores in real life when you’re dating women. Most women today are actually relationship whores, especially when they’re about to hit the wall at 30 or above 30. You’d also find such relationship whores among foreign women, because foreign women can also have a big notch count of men, whom they fucked around with in the search and name of ‘love and relationships’. In the end, a relationship whore is still a whore, just her packaging is different. Appearances are deceptive when it comes to women. Sprinkling golddust on shit doesn’t make it gold, it will still stink if you pry it with a stick.

    1. In effect, sleeping around to find true love, losing the ability to pair bond. Carousel rides, then 1000 cock stare, vibrators and cats in the future.

  20. Divorce rate in California, which is America’s most populous state, is now way over 50%, maybe around 66%. That covers data going back to the 1990s, so its not just a one year statistic. Think about it. Imagine a football stadium on Sunday with 75,000 people, now think 66% of them are divorced. Imagine a freeway full of traffic at rush with several ten thousand cars bumper to bumper, now think 66% of them are divorced. California is often a cultural trend setter for the rest of the US. What’s driving this? Women want a feminist fantasy that does exist in reality. They want their husband to be a animal in the bedroom (alpha male), and a gentleman (beta male) everywhere else. Life rarely works out like that. So women act out in all kinds of ways mentioned trying to find that elusive combination, starting in their teens, taking through to their divorce, and beyond. If you’re an alpha male they just want to use you for a fling, If you’re a beta male you get used as a provider. I suspect that even if you were the very unique balanced combination of both, women would still rationalize seeking out a new partner because of some “falling out of love” or “growing apart” or something ambiguous. We all know what the problem is. What is the solution?

    1. Catholics can`t get divorced except for infertility or adultery, and even then, adultery is only really bad if its the woman. Catholics cannot remarry.
      Only males can be priests.
      Birth control not allowed.
      The Catholic master race is 2,000 years old
      why?
      Have they secured the secret to creating a healthy community that regenerates itself? Think about that the next time some fedoracore redditor tells you religion is bad, and then complains about how bad the women are nowadays. The purest form of irony.

      1. In theory you are correct, but the reality is the “annulment” rate of Catholics in the US isn’t that different from the divorce rate of the general population in the US. This might be very different in other cultures that aren’t as diluted by feminist nonsense.

      2. All religions are hypocritical but Catholics get the gold medal. Priests raping children they are supposed to protect. The church protecting their home grown rapists. Birth control (not mentioned in the bible) so that millions die in Africa instead of allowing condoms to be distributed. A cult of human sacrifice where there is absolutely zero moral accountability where a rapist and murder that takes Christ as his savior before they execute him goes to heaven but the pious Hindu burns in hell for all eternity. Fucking retarded value system.
        Religion is the closest thing to pure evil. They say if you want to get a really good person to do something awful you need religion to do it.

        1. Just wondering if you could give me some advice of becoming more supreme of a gentleman. What fedora brands are cheap but also good looking? Do you wear more than one at a time?

        2. Its not a joke, I honestly want your advice.
          Do you wear velvet? Lets talk about how stupid Christians are together 🙂 And also lament how poor civilization has become since the decline of Christianity. And lets be sure to not connect the dots 🙂

        3. You mean the religion that thought that disease was caused by witchcraft and had people burned alive by the tens of thousands? Yea, a great beacon of morality. lol.
          Which “dots” would you like to start with?

        4. Youre talking about sky people and saying Im 12?
          You never answered me about those fedoras bro Im waiting

        5. As opposed to the other “great” beliefs at the time which centered around eating your ancestors after they died so as to get their wisdom and offering up whole still beating hearts to the Sun. Atheists are stupid, really really really stupid. Atheism does not mean the future is Star Trek, it means the future is devil worship and belief in spirits. Idiots.

        6. Actually (I am sure you will find this a shocker) it turns out that nearly all the idiots are religious. Here are just a few tidbits:
          “Official figures show nearly one in four people who have no religious belief now live in homes headed by someone with a senior executive job or a place in one of the professions.
          But well under a fifth of Christians are employed in the best-paid and most influential jobs or are married to someone who is, according to the Office for National Statistics (ONS).”
          Nearly all (93%) of Scientists don’t believe in god.
          “[The] National Academy of Science(NAS) is anti-God to the core. A survey of all 517 NAS members in biological and physical sciences resulted …[with] only 7.0% believed in a personal God.”
          But it would require intelligence to have a thoughtful and reasoned argument. Oh shit, you are screwed.

      3. Hey asdsada, which religion do you practice? I ask only because you allude to being Catholic here, but on the comments thread for the article “Could The Islamic State Reorder The Middle East?” you refer to yourself as a Muslim. I think it would help all the respondents to know where your convictions lie.

      4. Not entirely correct….
        Catholics can get divorced, but they must remain celibate if their marriage is not declared null by the Church.
        There are several reasons why a decree of nullity would be granted…
        Defect of form
        Defect of character
        Lack of understanding about the nature of family
        Inability to consummate marriage
        Not of sound mind ( seems like this one would render any marriage with a Western slut automatically null and void since they are all crazy!)
        There’s more but I’m not a cannon lawyer. Just a lay Catholic lol.

        1. That all being said, I agree with your main point. Traditional religions greatly curbed female promiscuity.

  21. Fuck em, don’t date em.
    Paging da GBFM, time for the one cock rule.
    Both of these girls would have been considered sluts in a more traditional age. Sarah, the fuckbuddy and Lindsay the serial monogamist.
    Their histories show huge red flags: Both cant secure commitment, Lindsay frivolously ends her relationships, Sarah jumps into bed with men without assessing their character. Both of them very likely have serious drama, but it’s not worth sticking around to see what it is.

  22. I find this article quite fascinating because I can look back and see those two types in my life. I also find the comments very interesting, you can tell that there is not a blue pill man among us here because not a single man has excused either of the two girl’s failings and there is no excusing them.
    When I was blue pill I would have picked Lindsey, never a Sarah, because I would have believed that I alone had the ability to meet her expectations and be that romantic, gentleman that she was seemingly so desperate for. In fact, I dated a Lindsey type for almost two years (religious by the way) and it ended exactly as described in the article.
    Now that I am Red Pill I recognize that the best way to do things is to develop one’s own life and become happy with the habits that you develop and the goals you set. A woman is meant to included in your life, not “be” your life.
    At The Rational Male RT likes to say that the way that relationships develop either the man or the woman will abandon their strategies and it is typically the blue pill male that abandons his expectations, his role, etc… and allows the woman to run the relationship. The healthy male forces the woman to abandon her strategy and she either follows his lead or is out, and this makes for a healthier relationship.
    Keeping this in mind and based on the idea that these are my only two choices, if I were to choose between either of the two today I would choose Sarah. She is, in my opinion, teachable. Depending on what her hobbies and interests are and if they match mine, I could very easily lead the relationship. Not so with Lindsey, Lindsey has a mindset that would next to impossible to challenge, her entire identity is wrapped up in the prince charming fantasy.
    As for the partner count, I have to admit to being torn, many articles I have read indicate that a double digit count for women makes for an unhealthy woman, so it is to our benefit to find those that do have a low count. However, quite a few comments here advocate pumping and dumping them in essence contributing to the girls’ count. Our community advocates the idea that every man is capable of laying any girl with the right set of tools and an appropriate mindset. It is interesting that we would take women with a high count out of the running when it is men such as you and I who contribute to that count. (Surely you don’t think thirsty Betas contribute?) Since a high count is the norm our only options are to ignore the count and work with what we’ve got or continue to pump and dump. It’s an interesting paradox.

    1. the gals with low counts KNOW they r special and that they have the highest values and tend to come with major institutional and familial reinforcement. its going to cost you! u will need to step up your game for she comes from an environment where daddy made her special, avoided putting her at risk + took care of the $!

    2. +1.. very great post overall. about grasping your own INSTITUTIONAL identity. not about u as an individual self bust as an individual who chooses to connect to a bigger or competitive collective so you can bring others to it socially. cant lead a smart gal unless unless your institutional hierarchal identity+interpretations are higher or superior to hers!

    1. The one with more curvier butt for me – but both are only good for first pump and dump, then pimp to a wimp.

  23. American women are bred for pump n dumps. Date neither. Use them as a sexual release while courting a virgin if you must marry.

  24. Fuck ‘n chucks. Though, I really wonder if this is going to not only be the norm (it kinda is), but it might even be seen as a “good deal” by pussy whipped betas. If I counted all the guys that the wenches I’ve screwed have been with, we would be dealing with a 3-digit number.. Sad, but what is the dividing line? If that cunt has taken thousand beatings or been fucked recently, it’s the least valuable pussy. It’s like taking someone’s garbage. But pussy is pussy, right? Wrong, I would say stay away from any slut whose been with more than 10 cocks. Otherwise you’re risking getting an STD. I stick to the motto, fuck sluts and marry a virgin. But be very careful. There is no need to risk knocking a whore up or catching something when it will ruin the next 15 yrs of your life or worse. Every year you will become a better man, and when it time to cash in on your game, at least get some quality poon. These woman, Lindsay and Sarah, are the product of our society of entitled whoredom. Where you could charm her, look good, dress well, smell nice, be a gentleman, but the moment she finds out you don’t have a car, it’s over. Better to be an asshole.

    1. Y DONT U HAVE A CAR? PART OF BEING A MAN +adult IS being financially independent. again, have u fucked more than 10 women.. y is that virgin not worried about you?ok for he rto treat u the same way u wanna treat the higher count women.

    1. Depends – pick for what? For a fling for a few weeks, a one night stand, a quick blowjob – both these girls would be fine for that, ruined as they have been by feminism.
      But pick for marriage? Yes- has to be a virgin. Everything else is to a degree flexible about her, and kissing guys she has had dates with, holding hands all that is fine but no ifs not buts, any sexual activity from her to another man and she can never be married.

      1. all virgins eventually go thru periods where they want to b sluts! comes down to options and opportunitis. get her ticked, let her go on vaca alone or with her galfriends.. and BINGO!

  25. I’d stick a few cigars in one pocket, a flask of brandy in another, get on my bike and ride out to a favorite spot on a trout stream.
    Might even get in a little fishing.
    But just as likely I’d just sit on the bank, smoke and watch the evening rise as the stars come out. You can always catch a fish, but you only get so many evenings.
    Life is good.

    1. the term turbo ‘diesel dyke’ is technically ‘exhaust powered suction’. In a pinch she could suck start a mercedes

  26. ONS or ANY sex that lacked discretion, FWB nothing more. They messed themselves up. Can they be fixed? Maybe. It will take an act of God and alot of self reflection along with keeping their legs and lips closed.. The problem is they will be broken throughout their best years and probably get more notches perpetuating the problem.

  27. I’m no Gengis Kahn but if I was I would have a moment in the tent with both yes. I’d keep my sandals on always.

  28. Neither, not entirely because of their sexual history either. But because most modern women are archetypes of these two women, and pretend like they’re magnificent but they fit the technical definition on what a slut is. (>10 sex partners), so no I’ll abstain from dating both.

  29. Sarah > Lindsey
    In fact Lindsey is the most disgusting type of a woman imo.
    slut over a whore any day
    (Probably would not LT date either of the two though)

    1. I know both Sarah and Lindsey sound horrible to you as a man, but they are like this because men slept with them and didn’t marry them. Therefore if you have ever slept with a girl without marrying her, you have also contributed to the creation of Sarahs and Lindseys.

      1. The whole point is that they ’embarked’ on ‘relationships’ because of their need for validation. They played the ‘keeping up with the jones’ game that women are notorious for, so they ‘went steady’ with a ‘boyfriend’, so that they wouldn’t ‘feel naked without a boyfriend’.
        They lived the sex and the city lifestyle and had drunk one night stands, but the majority of cocks they defiled themselves with were belong to ‘boyfriends’ (glorified fuck buddies). They failed to adhere to a traditional lifestyle, and screen their men for long-term compatibility and investment, preferring to lay with ‘dude brahs’ who were too preoccupied with ‘getting crunk’ than thinking about a long-term future. Their little doll-house game was never going to last very long, without appropriate thought and planning, and now the secret garden lies desecrated, the hymen obliterated.
        Definitely products of their environment, so not entirely culpable, and perhaps parental advice was inadequate. Or perhaps difficulty with authority and insistence on ‘independence’ was the catalyst for their debasement.
        By swallowing the feminist load, women have flung open their legs, for all to smell, and spoiled their chances of the fairy tale marriage they’ve craved all their lives. Their contribution to the ruination of society hasn’t been minor.

  30. Jezebel: Brag with lies.
    ROK: Hate with truths.
    This is the last time I’m ever coming here.

  31. I would pick neither. I refuse to further damage these fallen women with promiscuous sex. Celibacy until marriage is the only way if you wish to lead a moral life and not roll around in your own filth.

  32. Mannnn these girls are angels compared to most. But when choosing between a ‘good girl’ and a slut, i’ll choose the slut every time. The good girl is just a slut in disguise and can use her ‘good girl’ status to try and ‘commitment rape’ you. Since the pill/feminism/breakdown of family/cosmopolitan, ALL girls are sluts. Accept reality as it truly is. Pump and dump. Fall in love, but be prepared to walk at a moment’s notice. Keep the harem in circulation. Never feel guilty bout this. Play. on.

  33. But you’re basically going against a principle you encourage on ROK. You guys don’t believe in women remaining virgins until marriage. If a girl shouldn’t wait until marriage, and sleeps with every boyfriend whom she thinks is “the one”, she’ll just end up sleeping with multiple guys. The only way to avoid this is to have sex with no man until one decides to marry you. Makes sense, right?

  34. A Billy Goat and a Goat – Both are Goats.
    A “Relationship Whore and a Whore – Both are Whores!! End of story!

    1. what if women started taking this high faluting tude with male sexuality? over 10 pussies, well fuck you male slut! get off ur fucking high horse

  35. I would pick both but at the same time. Clearly they haven’t experimented enough with girls – from their history they have only been with guys. I would be happy to show them both how to get into it and take turns while I was tapping Sarah from behind with vigour and indifference – while she goes down on Lindsey. Then I would reverse the situation over the course of the weekend and get Lindsey to do the same to Sarah…but I would only do this for ‘them’ not for me. Just my way of giving back to two human beings.

  36. Both sluts. One accepts it better than the other. Not fit for LTR and certainly not marriage.

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