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5 Things Wrong With Modern Music

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Disclaimer: The author is fully aware modern music is in fact very diverse, is not constituted solely by what can be found on the various pop-charts, and that not every characteristic decried in the following post can be observed all the time in the realm of popular modern music. NAMILT.

He is also cognizant of the fact that numerous unfortunate attributes of contemporary music can be found in the music of yesteryear. The point is that so many destructive traits have become characteristics whose subversive effects, outright ridiculousness, and lack of appeal would have been understood only a couple of generations ago.

For many people in the present-day, these things barely register in their minds:

1. Everything Is Perfect

In today’s world of music, when it comes to the recording process, there is no room for error. The engineer or producer is the music industry’s equivalent of a helicopter parent; an individual who micromanages the entire bulk of sonic content in a song. Editing recordings with near surgical precision, they remove the types of idiosyncrasies, nuances, and inexactitudes which often made music of the past interesting.

Like the Ritalin-munching, screen-addicted, over-supervised kid who has been robbed of a genuine childhood, the songs we hear today have been purged of many once celebrated qualities by being forced to adhere to so many rigid parameters, which ultimately stifles the potential for any genuine life in a musical composition.

As an example of this divide I present these two specimens:

The Kingsmen – “Louie Louie”

Iggy Azalea (feat. Charli XCX) – “Fancy”

“Louie Louie” was recorded in one take. I can guarantee you “Fancy” was most certainly not. In “Louie Louie,” if you listen carefully at the 0:54 second mark, you can actually hear the drummer yell “f**k” because he fumbled one of his drumsticks. In “Fancy”, at 2:02, Ms. Azalea intentionally raps the word “f**k”, because that’s just what “edgy” feral broads like her do.

In The Kingsmen song, after the guitar solo the singer comes back in too early, realizes his mistake, and stops abruptly. The drummer then, having observed this blunder, acts instinctually by filling the void with an impromptu drum fill. Brilliant. No such magic happened in the making of “Fancy.”

These particular incidents aside, just sit back and listen to the sheer sonic difference between the two songs. “Louie Louie” is loose, noisy, and amateurish, bordering on outright sloppiness. Iggy Azalea’s song is stiff and pristine to the point of being clinical. In short, The Kingsmen’s sound is that of a group of beer guzzling chick-chasing mischievous fratboys, while Iggy and her ilk have the kind of sound reserved for only the best professional wannabe trouble-makers.

2. Female Exhibitionism

Whores, whores, and more whores. It seems like every other contemporary popstar parades herself with more zeal than a common street hussy.

Any fellow who has “taken the red pill” should know by now that women are naturally prone to exhibitionism. The world of pop music invigorates these tendencies to levels previously unseen, making it the ideal forum for cultivating unrestrained grossly immodest behaviour.

This piece of trailer trash royalty and her musical mating call need no introduction:

Miley Cyrus – “We Can’t Stop”

Ms. Cyrus is the kind of gal who, even if she didn’t have a singing career solely because of her father, would likely still be on a stage somewhere tatted up and twerking. Her birth name  is “Destiny Hope Cyrus” after all.

If such perverted exhibitionism was a self-contained phenomenon (like strip clubs) it might not be so bad. However, the broadcasting of such content via mass media in conjunction with the female proclivity towards herd mentality spawns a toxic synergy. Such a combination ultimately results in debased sexual moral standards for young women and the normalization of slatternly behaviour, in turn sowing the seeds of cultural rot and the decline of our once mighty civilization.

In short, music like this is a vector for the virus of degeneracy. The proper treatment for the ensuing disease is ridicule and shame.

3. Men Don’t Sound Masculine

In the Manosphere there is often talk of “High T” women, but what about “High E” men? Listen to this pansy:

Maroon 5 – “She Will Be Loved”

Every time I hear Adam Levine’s voice an image of a singing ant donned in silver armour with LED lights for eyes comes to mind. Worse yet, he is crooning over a 40+ woman while the twenty-something more attractive daughter takes a backseat in his thoughts—yikes! What a weird guy.

Here’s another shining example:

The Weeknd – “Wicked Games”

Mötley Crüe once said they dressed up like chicks to get chicks; I guess The Weeknd sings like a chick to get chicks (and this is definite chick music btw).

If you suffered through those two examples and feel as if you need an antidote, I recommend this musical pill (be sure to consciously compare and contrast with the above):

Johnny Cash – “Ring of Fire”

For some of you, Johnny Cash may sound too dated, or hokey, or perhaps you disdain country music entirely. That’s fine, we all have our preferences, but one thing which cannot be disputed is the sheer masculinity of this man’s voice, especially in contrast to the present day weasels featured above. Long live testosterone.

4. Everything Is Going To The Beat

Blue jeans, fast food, Walmart, Hollywood, suburbs, and…”sick beats.” These are all emblematic of the colossally hideous Jabba The Hut-like behemoth—known as globalization—currently devouring tradition and genuine cultures.

Aurally probe these three songs, which although stylistically different, utilize the same rhythmic tool (and it is a tool) inherited from disco:

The Black Keys – “Fever”

Luke Bryan – “That’s My Kind of Night”

Pitbull (feat. Ke$ha) – “Timber”

How can genres, which target such differing demographics and also have identifiably distinct idiomatic origins, all be underpinned by, more-or-less, the same rhythm? Music, like everything else, is clearly undergoing rapid convergence culminating in a homogenized mass music culture.

When the fundamental components between songs are so alike, the differences become trivial. The destruction of differences—many of which are rooted in longstanding musical traditions—ultimately generates a world of banality.

5. Overtly Sexual

Modern music is saturated with sex, and a great deal of it tends to be overtly sexual.

Take this charming little ditty for example (NSFW):

Khia – “My Neck, My Back (Lick It)”

Have you ever seen a room full of women in their twenties singing along to filth this shameless, while grandmothers stare catatonically on in horror, parents guffaw and smirk in direction of the floor, and the more “enlightened” boomers laugh delightfully as if the behaviour their daughters are displaying is of no significance at all? I have, and let me tell you, it is weird.

Weird like we’re living in some futuristic sexual dystopia. A dystopia where all things sexual have been reduced to an amoral form of childish amusement, and the segment of the population who have historically been the nurturers and caregivers of a society have decided to shirk the honourable traditions of their forebears and turn feral.

It should be obvious to any discerning observer the deterioration popular music has undergone in recent decades. This phenomenon parallels the decline elsewhere and also feeds it; there is a reciprocal relationship with music and society-at-large.

Music is an immensely powerful force in this world—bearing this in mind, one should always be cognizant of the particular qualities of a given song, and what their potential effects may be.

Read More: How Your Life Changes After You Start Listening To Classical Music

527 thoughts on “5 Things Wrong With Modern Music”

  1. …and these damn kids with their boomer boxes and complicated shoes won’t get off my lawn!!

    1. Better whip out the ol’ telegraph so I can Morse code a constable to come and remove these damn kids with all their fancy 80s technology

      2. Lash them such that they become uncomfortable in their jodhpurs and must by needs take a tonic when they return to their manor!

  2. I thought Elvis’ swinging hips and the Beatles’ floppy hair-dos were the downfall of society.
    Or was it Marilyn Manson and Slipknot?
    Or lyrics to Judas Priest that made people kill themselves?
    Or Madona talking about how a big dick makes her feel tight like a virgin?
    Or the Spice Girls singing about girl power?
    I can never keep this stuff straight.

    1. Maybe the downfall is so gradual you can no longer tell that we are constantly hitting new lows?

  3. I got grinded on so much in middle school to that my neck, my back song. Good times

  4. Everybody is going to get so wound up that you criticized modern corporate created generic music, while ignoring your disclaimer, that I predict not a lot of value will be found in the comments.
    If y’all think that lyrics and chord progressions created on corporate machines and fed to talentless females (outside of rap and some country it’s harder and harder to find male musicians any longer) whose voices are so bad that they require synthetic manipulation just to remain on key, to be mass broadcast out one after the other to the point that you probably can’t remember ten songs from two years ago that you listened to, is somehow great and edgy, well, that’s kind of sad. And yes, that was a painfully long sentence, heh.
    There is lots of good original music being made still, and almost all of it is by individuals without a Corporate Contract in their hands. Thank God for the internet.
    Props for the Johnny Cash ear bleach, that was sorely needed.

    1. Check out the candyrat records channel on youtube. Incredibly talented acoustic guitar players. Good music is out there it just doesn’t get huge exposure, just like you say

      1. Hell yeah. Is Andy McKee still with them? He was my introduction to Candyrat records.

      2. This is a phenomenon all right. Very talented individual musicians, but they’re mostly doing covers of classic rock. When you look at the innovation in rock music, taking for example the twin guitar sounds Wisbone Ash>Thin Lizzy>Iron Maiden pioneered, that sounded like nothing else that had come before them, how come these modern virtuosos can’t innovate to the same extent? I’m at a loss to explain it. Miles Davis reckoned that it’s to do with life experience – college educated virtuosos can do everything on their instruments, but they haven’t seen enough of the world, hardship, etc, to access and portray these transcendent sounds.
        If you read some of the story about the difficulties Guns And Roses went through, slugging it out on Hollywood Boulevard to get to the top, that theory makes sense. The standard of competition seems to have dropped now – people are more worried about getting onto x-factor, getting facebook stardom etc, and it’s at the point where anybody plonking away on a guitar can be revered. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooyPX1ciFqo
        Of course, there’s always an element of social engineering involved. Perhaps they found that having the populace listening to excellent music and understanding that it takes 10 hrs per day of practice to become an excellent musician was bad for business. It’s better for materialism in general to push the idea that you just have to look pretty and sing about your shaved pussy.

    2. Speaking of autotune, Neko Case (the best voice in music today) in a interview absolutely tore apart users:
      When I hear auto tune on somebody’s voice, I don’t take them seriously. Or you hear somebody like Alicia Keys, who I know is pretty good, and you’ll hear a little bit of auto tune and you’re like, “You’re too fucking good for that. Why would you let them do that to you? Don’t you know what that means?” It’s not an effect like people try to say, it’s for people like Shania Twain who can’t sing. Yet there they are, all over the radio, jizzing saccharine all over you. It’s a horrible sound and it’s like, “Shania, spend an extra hour in the studio and you’ll hit the note and it’ll sound fine. Just work on it, it’s not like making a burger!”

      1. Agree.
        Your post brought back a memory. When my son was around 18 months old and Shania Twain would show up on the television, back when she was young and hot, he’d make it a point to stand up and walk to the screen and try to “touch” her through it while smiling. He did that up through the age of around 2.
        That’s when I knew that my son was going to turn out to be one hell of a good man. Excellent taste in looks, clearly heterosexual and not afraid to approach.

        1. That’s awesome. My 2 year old nephew is the same way. I took him to a friends bbq, he approached this petite gorgeous blonde (like 5’3″ 95lbs D cups) and sat down right next to where she was standing. She started giving him some baby talk, he looked right at her and started pointing to the seat right next to him; basically telling her to shit down, shut up, and look pretty.
          Well, maybe that is how I took it, but he definitely sought out the hottest woman and made her sit next to him. My man.

        2. Your son has seriously good taste then – didn’t you say somewhere his girlfriend is hot too?

        5. It is not something that can be taught or something I taught him. He just knows what he wants.

      2. I wouldnt wait up for Shania Twain to put out an album any time soon.I recently saw some kind of reality show where she was trying to get her carear going after the Breakup with her husband/ producer/ songwriter/ musician Mutt Lange. She had zero confidence in herself and it was like watching an episode of The Dog whisperer where a psychologically damaged dog is being reintroduced to socializing with other dogs. She needed some real work to feel comfortable again on the mic.Someone obviously destroyed any kind of confidence she once had. Weird. She was hot though.

    3. The internet is the “great breakout” where anybody can make music and find fans.
      I would not be surprised to find both forces of the music industry and social engineering behind the FCC takeover of the internet.

      2. Yup. Same tactics we’ve seen the past half-century . . . incremental control in the name of ‘the public good’. Note also that the FCC legislation appears merely to address financial and licensing concerns, etc. — not censorship of those disagreeing with Transformed Amerika. Even at this late date, if the legislation explicitly was drafted and passed for purposes of censorship and intimidation, it’d get lots of pushback. Obviously. No reason for our mistresses and masters to risk that.
        The method they’ve chosen, OTOH, got minimal pushback, partly because it pretends to address technical issues, and partly because it’s 400 pages long. You can legislate, and later enforce, pretty much anything you want in 400 pages of lawyerspeak. All it takes is one clause on page 287.
        Cheers.

      1. Love the shit guys have been doin on 8-strings since they’ve become popularized. Howabout some Animals as Leaders? Using computers to push the writing limits, then learning seemingly impossible arrangements and nailing them live.

        2. Eh, Meshuggah songs all sound the same.
          I bet the new Iron Maiden album will slay, though. I hope Bruce will be well enough to tour, cancer is damn rough, even though his has disappeared with treatment.

        3. Yea bro, as I mentioned in another comment in this thread, Meshuggah is my go-to metal band, hands down. One of the best shows I’ve seen was at the Cleveland HOB, AAL opened for Meshuggah. Totally badass

        4. So I viewed a video. Can’t understand the vocals, don’t “get” it. Looking up the lyrics they seem to hit upon some very real issues of the insanity of our modern engineered culture.

    5. Hey!! That would be me and my boys!! Small little garage recording studio, great musicians, and ORIGINAL music!!. I’ll turn y’all on when the album’s finished. Think “Doors”….

  5. I’ll see this for rap music, at least it doesn’t pedestalise. More and more of my music collection is becoming relegated to occasional listening…

    1. In a way it’s ok. Modern music has forced me to search for independents on the internet as well as turn to baroque classical music for respite. It’s a net gain in a sense.

      1. Oh yes, I’ve expanded my collection a lot. It’s just…I used to LIKE some of these tracks. 😉

        3. One of my music professors back in college was (still is?) a DJ at KUSC. He took me down to the studio one day and let me look at their collection. It was quite an experience.
          I no longer live in LA so I rarely listen to the station. I do like Jim Svejda though. He’s kind of weird but spins great shit, especially the fantastic recordings of badass old school conductors like Klemperer and Furtwangler. I’m not of a fan of their pledge drives however. They are annoying to me, but I understand how they are necessary for the station’s survival, so I suppose that’s a “me” problem and not a “them” problem.

        4. Thats cool!
          I don’t live in CA anymore either, but I listen on the website. I have an old computer hooked up to my sound system, which I use instead of a cd player.
          Rich Caparella is cool as well.
          Yeah, the pledge drives are annoying, but its how they survive.
          Years ago in SoCal there used to be another classical station called Kmozart which I left on my car radio, so that whenever I started my car it would automatically come on. One morning I turned on the car and instead of classical it was Garth Brooks. I’ve donated to Kusc every year since then.

  6. MIDI was created back in 1983 as a way for synths to “talk” to each other and interconnect. The unintended effect was the creation of music that is locked to the grid. Tempos are mechanical and unchanging. That’s OK for some genres but can sound rigid for many others.

    1. Yeah, commercial hip hop died in 2005. Before the swag fag rappers oversaturated the industry, sure there have been exceptions but on average hip hop has been obliterated by rubbish, talentless artists . On a side note guess which ethnicity controls the majority of these mainstream rappers? But ROK is a little bit PC to go deeper in the rabbit hole

  11. My process of determining whether anything with a beat produced today is worth listening to consists of a thought experiment:
    Q: Would Beethoven find ANY sort of merit in today’s music?
    A1: No, because today’s music is massively produced and consumed generic shit.
    A2: No, because Beethoven is deaf to all music but his own.
    A3: All of the above.

  12. The gradual pussification of the the modern Western male is a big problem that is rearing its ugly head in modern popular music.
    Sample these unbelievably pussified lyrics from that most annoyingly feminine of bands, Coldplay:
    When the truth is, I miss you
    Yeah the truth is, that I miss you so
    And I’m tired, I should not have let you go
    Oooooooo
    So I crawl back into your open arms
    Yes I crawl back into your open arms
    And I crawl back into your open arms
    Yes I crawl back into your open arms.
    Contrast that with these lyrics from The Sword, one of the baddest, most testosterone-fueled, heaviest bands around today:
    May the mountains rise against you
    May the forests block your path
    May your axes chip and shatter
    And know it is my wrath
    I would mount your head on bloody spears
    Outside your palace gates
    And watch as crows peck out your eyes
    And your cities are laid to waste
    The Sword gives me energy, motivation and a feeling of power, especially combined with some of the heaviest, nastiest riffs since Black Sabbath. Coldplay makes me feel like I have a vagina.

      1. Not to mention that Chris Martin is the most glorified cuckold on the planet. How many other men’s cum has he tasted every time he has kissed Gwyneth Paltrow?

        1. Yep. It should surprise no one that a Europussy like Martin would marry an Americunt like Paltrow.

    2. Lots of bands doing the Sabbath circle-jerk these days. You might like these guys, sounds like Sabbath with John Lennon on vox:

        1. Not Maynard (of Tool/Puscifer/APC fame) at all. It’s a weird-ass group called Ghost or Ghost BC. Crazy stuff: their other vids feature the vocalist strutting around dressed like the Pope whilst sporting a poorly-painted skull-death-mask kind of getup. Obviously they hail from Scanda-hoovia…where else?

        2. Ive checked out interviews with other band members. At least one was American.Its hard to tell since they’re in costumes. Theres definitely a comic element to it like the singers mannerisms lin the begginings of songs like they’re playing a jazz tune at lounge. The singer is wearing a well made prosthetic mask. Im thinking the singer has some pull and experience to pull off this gag to put a band together with symphonic satanic disco metal. The musicians are really tight and solid.That’s what makes me think they’re a supergroup and no one knows who in the band.

      3. That’s some pretty cool shit man. Your description is spot-on. Nice post.

    3. This is what I’m talking about. Some early Coldplay stuff I like to chill with, but these days this track is unlistenable. I get physically uncomfortable.

    4. Hell yeah. I dig Sword too. Remember these fuckers? Monster Magnet? Been listening to them lately. Some good stoner, acid rock. Dave’s a little loaded in this video, but it still rocks…

      1. I love the first Monster Magnet album. Sleep is another totally badass stoner rock band. Sleep’s Holy Mountain rages. Kyuss to me is the ultimate band in that genre, especially Blues for the Red Sun and Welcome to Sky Valley. Total testosterone.

        1. Sweet. I’ll check ’em out. Guitar player from Sleep (Matt Pike) is now front man for band High on Fire. Just FYI. Worth checking out.

        2. Yep, High on Fire kills it too! I have a copy of The Art of Self Defense. Good shit! I think you’ll like Kyuss, especially the two albums I mentioned. They became Queens of the Stone Age (Josh Homme the leader of both bands), but Queens is not nearly as heavy as Kyuss was.

  13. Today’s music may be sexual but it’s faux, it’s an affectation. Most of these “musicians” don’t write their music or play an instrument. Seems computer generated . Check out these lyrics from the way back machine from Led fucking Zepplin:
    “Hey hey mamma, said the way you move gonna make you sweat , gonna make you groove” —–Black Dog—–
    “Way, way down inside, I’m gonna give you my love. I’m gonna give you every inch of my love” —–Whole Lotta Love—–
    YouTube the live performance with the music attached. Fucking raw. Are there any bands like this anymore??

    1. Big Iron is an amazing song!!!!!
      Thank you, I had forgot all about Marty Robbins!

      1. Oh yeah, now there’s a blast from the past. Well played sir, well played.

        1. In the spirit of our brother site Reaxxion, I highly recommend the music of the Fallout series of games. It’s a rather impressive collection of tunes from when music had real spirit. I’m personally a fan of the Civil Defense Spot channel, which has most of the songs plus many others, found here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoFQvZZ3r05HE_JanWmVdnw
          It’s become something of a background default for me whenever my computer is on.

    3. And that skrawney little hipster Squirrelex gets about half a million to show up at a festival to plug in a u.s.b stick and act like he’s making music!

  15. I actually love that Weeknd song “Wicked Games”. It’s not that these singers don’t sound masculine, they just sing in falsetto. I have a deep voice with bass when I speak, but when I sing (even though I can’t hold a key) that’s how I sound. Some guys sing in falsetto, some don’t. Justin Timberlake is another example

    1. I have a deep voice as well but I only sound the way those guys sing if I was being tortured by having my balls attached to jumper cables.

  16. I used to love the Black Keys, and was sad to see them included, but I have to agree with the assessment – their last two albums have flat out sucked. It’s like modern music is a black hole and everyone has crossed the event horizon.

    1. Yeah, agreed. The singer looks like shit too now. Not sure if that’s part of the act, a drug addiction, or if his soul has died from having to bend over for the corporate music machine.

  17. In my day, we had good music. Your generation’s music sucks!
    And get off my lawn, you damn kids!

      1. You know how I know we’re on a website where actual real men post? We’re having debates about who is more badass, Hank or Cash.

        2. I’m actually pretty glad they’ve been putting music by Marty Robbins in video games and television shows. It might make a handful of people wake up to the fact that there’s music out there that’s on a much higher level than anything they know.

        7. Love ‘El Paso’. Try also Johnny Horton’s ‘North to Alaska’. Back then you couldn’t get away with lousy ‘songs’ that were all about Women Succeeding, or (c)rap music by thugs and thugettes, or about ‘the beat’.
          Raving about ‘the beat’ is another way of saying, I don’t actually have any talent, I can’t actually write a real song . . . but I can turn on the Drum Machine and pretend that I’ve accomplished something. Isn’t that Beat great! lol
          Music of the past three decades has plummeted in quality along with the rest of the culture. Full of fakes, divas, crap rappers, edgy girls, teenage whores, and commercial products pretending to be artists. Zero authenticity, 100 percent artificed publicity.
          There’s a lot of really good music from the Fifties and Sixties waiting to be re-discovered by people sick of modern corporate/PC pseudo-art. Back then, if you expected your song/performance to get on radio, it had to be good . . . or at least delightfully different. The ‘music’ produced now wouldn’t have gotten air-time on even the small-market radio stations.
          Cheers.

        8. If you haven’t seen the John Wayne movie North to Alaska the song was written for, go rent it tonight. John Wayne’s character has a unique take on women:
          George, a wonderful thing about Alaska is that matrimony hasn’t hit up here yet. Let’s keep it a free country!
          —–
          Sam McCord: Well, I’m savin’ a life, that’s all I know.
          Michelle: Maybe, but you don’t make any sense at all! Which is all right, because if you’re too drunk to talk, we’ll find something else to do.
          Sam McCord: That’s perfect. You even sound like a wife!
          Michelle: I do not consider that a compliment!
          Sam McCord: I’m on your side, lady! It’s my only politics: anti-wife! Any woman who devotes herself to making one man miserable instead of a lot of men happy don’t get my vote.
          —–
          Spoiler Alert: Of course Wayne ends up turning into Captain Save-A-Ho. Literally.

        9. I’ll check NTA out thanks gunny. Not usually a Wayne fan (unless it’s Bruce Wayne) but that film looks like fun. I enjoy many of the older westerns. Cheers.

        13. rap is more badass than country music. well, some rap anyways. mainly stuff from 10+ years ago

        15. Not so much really. Hank Jr. would stuff a modern rapper into a gun safe, lock it, and walk away and not think twice about it.
          The fake “I’m tough” crap from city people is pathetic at best. They’re tough in groups and nowhere else, and their music reflects this. It’s tribal. Fuck tribal.

        16. i’m sure hank jr. would do that to a modern rapper, but not
          so much to eminem, dr dre, busta rhymes, and other people from that time period.
          fuck this “tough guy country boy” shit. i’m from new york and i live in texas now (unfortunately), and let me tell you, the cowboy hat-wearing rednecks talking about their guns would be the first ones to spend their money on expensive home security systems and advocate for harsher laws and greater police power. i am very much in favor of gun ownership, but these country people need their guns because they are afraid to fight with their fists. they would shoot an intruder in their home without confronting them first face-to-face.
          say what you will about rap and urban gangsta culture (and their is a lot of valid criticism of it), but it sees through the bullshit of the current blue-pill and corrupt system and isn’t afraid to stand up to the Man. the same can’t be said for country music or rural southrn u.s. culture.
          and in regard to what you said about tribalism, i would say that those who are not loyal to a tribe (weather it be family, friends, or their village or neighborhood) are loyal to the system, which doesn’t give a shit about them but will protect them and makes sure they don’t starve. nobody is a true individual, loyal to no one. those who don’t have a tribal mind-set will end up being loyal to the system we ROK readers all hate due to their survival instinct.

        17. Yeah, that’s why they need their guns.
          As a former military man, the people I met from NY and New England in general were puffed up pussies who were braggarts only if they had numbers on their sides. A country boy, especially the quiet kind, will take them down one by one any day of the week, guns or no guns.
          “Gansta” culture is not culture at all. It’s simply idiots bowing to the lowest common denominator and talking tough. End of the day they play out their fantasies and end up dead like Tupac, or they sit down and shut the fuck up and collect money and bling and armed security to protect them from actual real men.
          QE to the fuckin’ D. Peace out.

        18. QED, my ass.
          there is some truth to your first paragraph about a strong, silent country boy kicking the ass of an obnoxious “puffed up pussy” northerner. i’m sure the types of new yorkers who join the army are wannabe tough guy assholes, just like those who join the NYPD, whereas the army people i’ve met from the south are generally better people who are more deserving of respect.
          as for you second paragraph, it is obvious you have never been to Harlem or any other “ghetto” neighborhood in a big city. if you think these people are “living out their dreams [of violence],” then you are obviously living under a rock. young men who join street gangs and engage in urban violence are far from living out their dreams. on the contrary, they are struggling to get by in a corrupt system that doesn’t give a shit about them, while retaining their self respect and masculinity by refusing to bow down to the system. and no, they can’t just get a job. in new york and other cities, if you are uneducated (and a lot of these urban kids can’t afford college), you’d be lucky to find a part-time job flipping burgers for $7.25 an hour. that’s why i left new york.
          and yes, there are welfare queens, deadbeat dads and all sorts of other bullshit in urban ghettos. there is a lot of legitimate criticism. but at the end of the day, rap and “gangsta” culture is about standing up to the oppressive system we all hate, and living your life like a man who does what he wants. the same can’t be said for you army people. as much as i respect what you do (and i do respect anyone who volunteers to fight for their country or community) you are fighting (or have fought) for the very system that enforces feminism, blue pill-ism, high taxes, economic regulation, the war on drugs, and all the other bullshit the government does. and according to you, anyone who says “fuck you” to the system takes their life and issues into their own hands is an “idiot bowing to the lowest common denominator.”

        19. The ghetto is a state of mind, not a place.
          In an era of affirmative action, all black colleges, all latino colleges, minority based scholarships, pell grants that favor the poor, success is a choice. It’s never been easier to leave the ghetto for good.
          The democrat mentality nurtures ghetto trash that ironically, live like 1%ers compared to most of the world. I feel zero sympathy for falsely entitled people.

        20. I am living through the ruined lives of a couple of boys who are holding up “gangsta” culture as ‘standing up to the oppressive system we all hate’. It is sad and tragic. It has nothing to do with taking ‘their life and issues into their own hands’. Their life becomes a heavy issue to everyone’s life they touch.

      3. Generally agree with the American Recordings, but there are a few gems in there. Overall though, I like his live stuff at Folsom best. The Folsom Prison Blues version on that album is blistering. And I love how you can hear the inmates screaming. Very primal.
        But, I’d also agree with you that no one holds a candle to Hank Williams. You can say you aren’t into country, but I don’t see how anyone can listen to those songs and not find something deeper than the genre it sits in.

        1. Hank and Cash put soul and feeling into their music. That’s why it survives. It has that human touch which a lot of other stuff completely lacks.
          You see the same problem with modern heavy metal. Its become so damn sterile.
          In 50 years, nobody will be listening Kesha, yet Hank and Cash will live on.

      4. Why is it that I can understand every single word these “dated” singers utter while the millenial singers are pure enigmatic bastards for me?
        I know entropy is preferred in cosmos, but culture ain’t something whose entropy should rise.

      5. I’m with you on that. I hate the American recordings. Hank is the best. He wrote all that stuff too, which is amazing considering he died when he was 29..

      6. I’m a fan of Hank and Johnny, personally I love the American recordings. Johnny doing Becks Row Boat is awesome. I’ve never known anyone personally that likes Hank Williams. Sucks.

      7. One of the only times I’ll ever say someone beat Willie Nelson at a song was Hank’s version of ”Blue Eyes Crying in the Rain”

      8. Suggestions? I’m a millennial and pretty much stopped listening to music because it was all infected with the poz. This is pretty good.

    2. “Hurt” is awesome. Cash was near death. His voice was weak and broken. But that is what makes the recording so devastating. Auto tuning would have removed any emotion
      from the recording.

      1. Yup. Actually prefer his version to Trent Reznor’s. Maybe it’s just the rawness that appeals to me. No pretense.

        7. I think it’s time to trace this guy’s IP address. Think he needs to be killed for the good of humanity. Serious.

        8. I agree… but the greatest tragedy in modern history is that Hitler didn’t succeed in his Final Solution. This world would be infinitely better if his plans hadn’t gone to shit. So, yeah, change your user name, it’s ignorant (and reeks of Jew).

        9. Make me faggot. I’ll have any name I want. Am I wrong? Nope. And I’ll beat the living shit out of your hillbilly white trash ass too. Anytime. Anywhere. Name it. BET ON IT. I look really Jewish, don’t I.

        10. Even my two little white nephews standing next to me could beat your pussy faggot ass too.

        11. No, you don’t look Jewish, just… how do I put it politely… blue collar. P.S. Of course you’re wrong. Would Jews be in the banking sector today fucking shit up if Hitler had succeeded? Nope. Would niggers and chinks be breeding like rabbits on our white lands if Hitler had succeeded? Nope. I doubt feminists would even be allowed in the media (but that one’s just a hypothetical). P.P.S. Looks to me like you’re running or hiding from something, maybe trying a little too hard to project a manly image. Which is ironic, since you called me faggot.

        12. You are a faggot. You insult people you don’t know. The hallmark of fags to me. It’s all there fucker. My image does not need to be exagerrated to be manly. We both know it. Looks like you are eating your words. I have a degree in biology and a secondary science teaching license. So much for your theories. Would you like me to post a pic of me with my hot, white girlfriend??? I will GLADLY do so.
          Whatever you think of Jews or “Chinks” or whoever is your business. Insult me personally? MY BUSINESS.
          I let you off easy this time. Watch your ass next time.

        13. “I let you off easy this time. Watch your ass next time.” What the fuck does that even mean, besides posturing? I don’t even live in America (which, by your image, I assume you do). So, what? Next time you’re going to fly overseas to kick my ass?
          To your other point: besides the Jew assumption (which, let’s face it, wasn’t a bad guess based on your username), how have I eaten any of my words? I backed up my original statement that Hitler not succeeding was a tragedy. Anyway, internet fights are gay. It’s all posturing.

        14. They are gay, agreed. So I’m done with your ass. You started it, I responded. Done.

        15. Ah, didn’t see this comment before. Okay, that’s full gay. No need to show your nipples, dude.

        18. It was a joke. Lighten up. And I’m the opposite of fat, have an overactive metabolism, which sucks, near impossible to gain weight.

        21. Gay indeed. I have no idea if you are a “fag”. I’m no homophobe. It’s a term I use as a general insult to anonymous commentors here on ROK if insult me, especially for such manly men (!) as yourself, and if some Neo-Nazi attacks me out of nowhere for no reason as you did, expect all guns to be blazing, all insults included. I give myself license to do that. Even if they have no basis in reality.

        22. Was wondering who you were at first, till the last line.
          I’m not a fag, was just running with that line as a joke since it was what you originally called me, and what triggered me to respond to you with hostility (AFTER I realised you weren’t Jewish). In fact, I regret having had a go at you at all as you’re not the type of person I’m against.
          The thing you say about Hitler not being Aryan and probably a Jew (his grandmother was jewish, btw) is why I think he was great. He saw the way things were going and had a plan to fix them, and he DIDN’T try make the world in his image, but in the image he believed would be the best long term. Even you have to give him some credit for that.
          But don’t be yet another American who claims to have single-handedly won the war, it didn’t happen that way. Of course, you yanks sure helped out a lot but if anyone could potentially claim to have “won” the war it would be the Russians. They kicked the Germans from Stalingrad all the way back to Berlin.
          Oh, and Japanese aren’t chinks, they’re nips. Chinks are Chinese. The Japanese and the Chinese fucking hate each other. They’re roughly as related as Spanish are to English. Sure, there are similarities but also clear differences.
          Alright, cheers.

        23. Your point about the Russians is well-taken. However, keep in mind that at the end of the war we had the bomb and they didn’t.
          You think Hitler’s grandma was Jewish? On what evidence? I’ve never heard that before. Only that his grandfather was though to be a Jew and that he likely has Jewish relatives and was African! Skinhead crisis!!!
          http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/world-war-two/7961211/Hitler-had-Jewish-and-African-roots-DNA-tests-show.html
          And how do you know I’m not Jewish? I never said I was not Jewish. I only asked you if I looked Jewish, since you said my username War Solved Hitler reeked of Jew. Your response is fascinating. I could be anyone or anything. How do you know you are not “against” me? What if I’m like Hitler? What if I’m Mexican? Just because I don’t “look” Jewish? Would you think I was a great man if I was a Jew who wanted to kill other Jews who didn’t look like me? How would I even know if I’m (or anyone else is) really Jewish in the racial/genetic sense as Hitler perceived? These questions are asked mostly rhetorically. I could be anyone I claim to be. So could you, absent a DNA test. Crazy shit turned up during the Nazi’s attempt to purge the country. Lots of people who thought they were not Jews were. Some who thought they were turned out not to be.

        25. I understand, and largely agree. When someone gets me going, it’s hard for me to stop.
          I will say this however: I don’t believe in such nonsense as a “Master Race”. However, if there is one, it sure as fuck ain’t the Germans. No country claiming to be the master race would have been so completely pussified so quickly as Germany. The Irish and Scottish are a tougher breed by far, but even they are becoming wussies too.

        26. The master race (IMO) is the race white the highest IQ’s, who can advance society the furthest. Technically Asian’s score higher than whites but IQ tests don’t factor in ingenuity, which whites have everyone beaten.
          Give German’s some slack, only around 30% voted for Hitler, despite him being a fucking awesome public speaker. And during the war he didn’t even have close to 100% approval. But he did have the approval of The British and the Americans for a fair few years. In fact due to WWII America got out of the great depression by selling tanks and shit to both sides. GM and IBM made a fortune.
          The Scots spend 90% of their time hating the English… but TV, radio and a whole bunch of really influential inventions originated in Scotland; which is pretty interesting, since their population is only around 4 million (today). As for the Irish… haven’t met one yet who wasn’t drunk, so no comment.
          But, yeah, I think this conversation’s done it’s course.

        27. The truth is, this is all bullshit and posturing as you said which is why it’s a waste of time. There are zillions of pics flying around out there and anyone can claim they are them or someone else online. I got those pics and info of “me” off the internet. I thought he looked hard. But it sure fooled you. How would you know? How would anyone? Maybe I’m this guy. Or the other guy..Or the girl. How the hell do you know who anyone is? Crazy.

        29. I have a degree in telling internet tough guys who brag about their community college credits that not a single person in this entire world is the least bit impressed or intimidated. Beta.

        30. You keep feeding a troll and now this comment section is polluted with pictures of a lame ass guido.
          You did succeed in letting him showcase his impotence, though.

        31. WTF? Hitler was a sociopath who scapegoated to the point of mass genocide an entire race, whom happened to be quite successful as a whole in world affairs.
          His whole behavior reeked of a twisted envy fueled by self-projection and a succession of logical fallacies.
          And the main point he demonstrated with his Napoleon complex behavior was how gullible and easily led human beings can be.

        32. That was, I believe, the best send-off song to crown an icon’s career in the industry. If you can’t connect with the intricacy of each an every lyric, the subtleties, the emotion and vocal inflection in that song, you’ve disconnected entirely from the species’ purpose on mother Earth.

        34. That’s called marketing. Cash couldn’t write something like it, so they wheeled him out to cover it and profit. Well played

        35. You might get a boner at a VFW hall when hearing fake war stories, methinks. If Cash had any rawness, you’d hear it in his instruments. Nope, guy is still whistling Dixie

        36. True Cash was old school. He wouldn’t write a song like Rezner’s (I want to F#@k you like an animal). BUT had Cash been born in the 70’s or 80’s he’d have easily written something like that….Its the sign of the times, and not capability. Johnny had miles of skills, his style of country was before its time.

        37. Someday some kids will laugh at the music you love and the artists you worshipped today. Anything old is always a joke to the next gen. Trent will be old and in his Adult diaper’s and some klitz band will cover his stuff and some else will say…oh its so much better…new and chromium…..I coined that phrase for them now….lol

        38. Cash’s version sounds like grandpa good ‘ol boy on his death bed with a bottle of Old Crow. Reznor is the original artist of that song.

        39. Cash and country sucks, compare his crap to what rock n roll bands were releasing in the same year. Put the PBR down.

      2. That recording was a staple moment in music history. Timed perfectly, recorded just right, the message pristine, and a legend doing the reverse of what is done so often. He actually stole from the new, and made it old and more valuable. RIP Johnny. And thanks to Trent for allowing it to happen. Trent wants to fuck you like an animal, Johnny effectively took Trent’s work, and fucked his song like an animal.

      3. True, excellent point about how the depth of the song would have been destroyed. One of his earlier songs called “Sunday Morning Coming Down”–deep and may have been the precursor to “Hurt”–a solid recommend.
        After listening to parts of each of those songs, I think I need to listen to the entire Leftoverture album by Kansas to cleanse…..

      5. Oh, he was near death? Like every person in this world is at one point? Great singing then, I need to get my 93 grandma on a mic with a pity party STAT

    4. FUCK YEAH!
      It like ear bleach for that other garbage (Kingsmen excepted).
      Great article.

    5. “B-b-b-b-b-b-b-but his music is so old!”, said every millenial waste of sperm, ever.

    6. Exactly. I was going to correct the author, because he said that some people might think Johnny Cash was dated or hokey. There is no person in the world who could possibly think that.

    9. Or we could all just listen to death metal instead.
      The only music possible for working out to.

      1. The gym I used to work at had a boxing bag.
        I’d blast Slipknot from my portable speakers and just have at it. War drums.

        1. This one is my lifting anthem. Nothing penetrates the mind like the ferocity of this song

    10. Well, I don’t like Mr. Cash but I believe that the dudes whom I like can definitely, no disrespect, put Mr. Cash to shame.







    12. Despite me not being terribly religious, “The Man Comes Around” is my favorite song of his.

    14. Yeah I can’t stand him. But for High E men… check out Just Ice from the Eighties and compare him to the helium rappers of today.

      1. Why Bob Why!?!
        In other news Just Ice is interesting. I like how experimental and the fun the 80s seemed in general.

        1. Classic song. The raw masculinity in his voice. You don’t hear that anymore.
          lol Jonny Cash is OK just not my type of music.

    15. He sucks, was almost forgotten, then hipsters brought him back with PBR. Just like fake ass honkies croon over ol Hank Williams. Brian Wilson walks all over that country trash. Folsom Prison Blues is alright, but dude was more or less a pill popping junkie.

        1. Typical liberal, Johnny Cash lovin’, unoriginal jerk off. Probably dress in all black too, cause it’s the emo way out. Elvis farts in Johnny Cash’s general direction.

    16. Oh hey girls, Cash also covered the Beatles, “In My Life,” which also blew cock with his slow ass, geriatric voice trying to keep pace with the upbeat guitar. It wasn’t meant to be, until his self pity, mixed with the grit of a NIN song, struck a chord with you fucks with no knowledge of music pre-1995, really sold big. Beck’s “Country Down” pisses on anything Cash did.

      1. Same.
        I’ve only ever gotten into Johnny Cash and Neil Young.
        I’m sure there are others worth listening to but I also don’t generally like country.

    18. Exactly! Johnny Cash sang with Carl Perkins and Jerry Lee Lewis…In Cash’s day RnR was a little bit country….plus….Cash really rocked and lived the RnR life for a time, in my opinion

  19. Lets cut through the bullshit. The reason modern music has succumbed to sexual degeneracy, ratchetness(ghettoness), debauchery and on average promotes hedonism, homosexuality, and promiscuity(the signs of decline in a civilization) is because Jews run the music and entertainment industries. Jewish supremacy is a very real threat to our society. They seek to rule and enslave us ‘goyim'(anglo-saxons, africans , asians etc) through the banking cartel, prison/military industrial complex, and cultural Marxism. Don’t believe me? Look at the lowest common denominator in the moguls that run the music industry

  20. Gents check on MC5 “Kick out the Jams”

    The dude has a ‘fro so you know the shits gonna get real…
    This boys is fucking music

  21. Country has developed a bad reputation because of the low quality which passes for it nowadays.
    When my dad was growing up in the late 40s, 50s, and early 60s country was good and had soul. Today its just as sterile as any cheap pop band. I’m not much of a country fan, but some of the older stuff I like. This is some stuff he would always play, and still listens to today.


    1. I’m afraid old Hank opened the door to that. Before him “Country” was a marketing euphemism for “Hillbilly,” the ballads, laments and gospel of the Appalachians.
      And distinctly Eastern music. Western was a distinctly different genre until the commercial interests conjoined them. That joke in The Blues Brothers is deeper than most people realize.

  22. On thing I really really fucking really hate in music is when (women or black) singers screw with the melody to pretend they have talent.

    1. Or that awful ass scattered note warble that Whitney Houston made popular with women singers. Fucking stay on the note and stop going through pointless and artless vocal gymnastics.

        2. There’s nothing wrong with vibrato – it just shouldn’t be a fucking tone wide, and not even clearly centred on the note you’re singing…

    3. That is what happened to drum and bass! Once a creative and people led underground movement to Rita Ora mewing about relationships.

  23. You made me put on some Rosemary Clooney; you bastard!
    A stereotypical Clean Cut American Girl(tm), her lyrics never had to rely on sexual content. Take her first hit, for instance:
    “Come on-a my house, I’m gonna give you some candy.”

  24. Rap music used to have artistic merit. It was about real life emotions about how parents don’t understand or killing white people. Today it’s just bragging about power and wealth.

    2. Rap music used to have artistic merit.
      LOL!
      No, wait…..I…no….LOL!
      I heard my first rap song in the year of our Lord 1985 when I was a teenager. It sucked, hard. So I listened to other rap songs, at the urging of some of my buddies because they thought I simply heard a bad “artist”. Every one of their “songs” sucked even harder.
      It was a novelty at one time, so I give it a point for creativity. Once. One time. After that the gimmick gets old, fast.

      1. 80s hip-hop was a bit raw and unpolished and it was at the beginning. It was more of a movement not a genre. Although there was not much connection between the four, Hip hop was packaged as a a mix of four elements: MCing(rapping), Bboy (break dance), Graffiti and DJing.

      2. In the 80’s and 90’s, we listened to rap songs to laugh and have fun. There was nothing serious (or artistic) about it.

        2. “In the 80’s and 90’s, we listened to rap songs to laugh and have fun. There was nothing serious (or artistic) about it.”
          Don’t Waste Your Life:

      3. Individual taste. I would say that majority of hip hop artist know zilch about music(melody, instrumentation, etc), but some rappers in the 90s had poetic abilities. Rapping ‘good’ is not something that everyone can do. I can respect talent when I hear it

      4. For me it was when Run DMC teamed up with Aerosmith and remade Walk This Way. I just thought WTF! The original was a good song and why would Joe Tyler let this happen?

      5. no, he’s right. back in the early/mid 90s…a blip on the musical radar, but it had its time…

    3. I can find talent in any genre. Rap included. There some good underground indie rappers for sure. What I think has really gone downhill and NOT progressed is EDM. The sounds of dub-step offered a bit of a change, but 4 on the floor trance, the shit filling festivals like Ultra in Miami, and many of the dance clubs in big cities, is sooo rehashed from what’s already been done in the 90s and 00s, I just really don’t get the attraction to it anymore.

    4. Don’t forget kissing your dad. Oh, and play fighting to sell records. And loving yourself since no else loves you.

    6. “Rap music used to have artistic merit. It was about real life emotions
      about how parents don’t understand or killing white people. Today it’s
      just bragging about power and wealth.”
      This is the pinnacle of rap music.

  26. Fuck off to corporate, trendy, degenerate music for pussies and manginas. Here’s a dose of bellicose belligerent badassness for you just in case it’s leg day at the gym:

  27. This is what happens when the masses define culture in a capitalist society. It is nothing but a push to the lowest common denominator I predict women will be licking dogs assholes in music videos in a few years. When the Aristocracy funded music and culture they would support musicians like Bach and Chopin.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V60USaluxGA

    1. Yeah, boy, Led Zepplin, Pink Floyd, Yes, Genesis, man, they sucked and were no talent lowest denominators.
      A more accurate statement would be “this is what happens when you remove standards, religious morality and the ability to think critically from a society through a government run public education system”.

        1. That’s because they did not produce the same genre of music. Within their genre they were geniuses and had more talent than you can shake a stick at.
          And I’ll put any of the original Yes up against either of the two men you mention when it comes to high musical talent.
          EDIT: Keep in mind, I’m not criticizing those composers. I love baroque and traditional classical music.

        2. They definitely had more talent then anything today, but were not even close to the genius of the classical musicians.
          If you are honest with yourself there is no way to dispute that rock music is a degenerate force and has always been socially destructive to traditional Western values…

        3. Actually yes, like I said, I’d put the original Yes against most of the classical composers. These were doctorate level graduates in music and music theory who went into music and experimented the hell out of it. And Rush: I would go so far as to suggest that they were as talented with writing their music as many of the classical composers, and were all over the place with time signatures, key changes and complex rhythms and themes.
          As to rock, it is what you make of it. You can be destructive with it, yes clearly (looking at you, Nirvana), but you can also make some very profound social statements that can reflect an advance of society. Is it even in dispute that a lot of the male resistance to the feminization of society is coming from metal these days, for example?

        4. Beethoven and Bach are probably two of the three or four all time geniuses of classical music, along with Wagner and arguably Schubert. Brahms is also a huge personal favorite of mine as well. Mozart was spectacular but was no groundbreaker. More of a consolidator like Haydn.
          While the geniuses of of rock (Lennon/McCartney, Page, Townsend, Hendrix, Jagger/Richards, and a few others) might not rank quite as high as them, they are not far off, and they can EASILY hold their own against Stravinsky, Schoenberg (pure shit, except for his Wagnerian-like early music), Ravel, Debussy and Liszt, who are WAYYYYY overrated to me. Liszt was a badass on the piano but as a composer was mediocre at best.

        5. It’s worth mentioning Allan Holdsworth in the context of these great musicians. He has been praised by Steve Howe, and worked regularly with Bruford. He’s simply outstanding. I’m glad you argued the toss with Steve Sailor, even though it’s difficult to argue against the magnificence and beauty of the classical music he mentions.
          Expanding on the doctorate level musicianship you mention, instrument proficiency has clearly hit an all-time low in pop music, whereas bands like Genesis had 30+ years of work put in by the time they were at their peak. It seems impossible for modern facebook trenders to get that proficiency amidst the search for that perfect trout-pout selfie.
          This little sub-thread has seen the best contributions in the comments section, with links to some classical gems. I’m not a big fan of the “share culture” that has been exhibited in these comments on this article, but I’m pleased that some great classical music was shared.

        6. I enjoyed the discussion as well. It’s hard for me to argue against classical composers, and it wasn’t really against them, but it felt like it.

        1. Yep, them too. Brain Salad Surgery is my favorite album by them, haven’t listened to it in years. Probably have to, now that you bring them up.

        3. Hell yeah, Tarkus is definitely my favorite!
          Brain Salad Surgery is amazing, but I think the sound quality is lacking.

        4. Did you see the original Giger illustration for the BSS cover? The skeleton woman is not sucking on a rod of light. Think about some of the sights found at the “show that never ends”

    2. I’ve always thought Chopin was boring, right down there with Debussy.
      Dvorak, on the other hand……

      1. I love Dvorak. A total badass. Check out his Symphony #7 for some serious drama. Add Bruckner and Nielsen to that list too.

        1. For some reason, I’ve always thought that the Star Wars theme by John Williams was total Dvorak worship, to the point of aping.
          Stravinsky did some wild stuff as well. As a child I would watch that part from Fantasia over and over because I loved seeing the T Rex kicking ass.

          And of course there’s this gem:

        2. Williams Freely admits to stealing a lot of his basic themes from other greats… a lot of it he took from ‘the planets’

        3. I never knew he admitted to it.
          Listen to the Jaws theme:

          And then listen to that piece of The Right of Spring with the dinosaurs I posted above.

        4. Yeah, I noticed those two years ago 🙂 but most moviegoers are not fans of classical.
          But then again, I have no more problem with one musician ‘borrowing’ from another than I do with IBM ‘borrowing’ the computer from Atanasoff, who ‘Borrowed’ it from Babbage, who ‘borrowed’ it from Abi Bakr, who ‘borrowed’ it from farther back in recorded history.
          Nothing is created in a vacuum, and using the tools and knowledge you have today is as important for the greats as it was for their predecessors.

        5. I always thought the Star Wars theme was a complete ripoff of Wagner’s Ride of the Valkyries… I love me some Mussorgsky and Stravinsky too. Good post.

    2. Some of the Russian bands will take you to some very ancient places, try Branikald.

    3. Meshuggah anyone? I like this song, but all their songs started to sound the same after a while…

      Also Trivium (old stuff), Anterior, As i Lay Dying, Death By Stereo, Maylene and The Sons of Disaster, Norma Jean, High on Fire… Grew up on this shit. And still like it. Most people do not.

      1. Def one of my favorite metal bands. A good friend of old lead singer in my old band designs their guitars. Badass live shows. Seen em twice.

  29. The tittle should be ”5 things wrong with chart music”. There’s plenty of good modern music, but most of it is not in the charts. Though I am a millennial, so I’m biased.

    1. Thats true! internet has made it possible for everyone to launch their creative ideas. It’s your job to find them.
      But, but, if the benchmark and standard of the most popular music is low then it kinda drags the general quality of music down.

  30. You may go with the classic cop outs of “It gives me a headache!” or “All they do is scream!”, but metal bands write lyrics like nobody else can and using striking imagery. Too bad this bad sucks now:
    Mother North – how can they sleep while their beds are burning ?
    Mother North – your fields are bleeding
    Memories…The Invisible Wounds
    pictures that enshrine your throne (gone?)
    A Future benighted still they are blind
    Pigeonhearted beings of flesh and blood
    keeps closing their eyes for the dangers that threat…ourselves and our
    nature
    And that is why
    they all enrage me
    Sometimes in the dead of the night I mesmerize my soul
    Sights and visions prophecies and horror
    they all come in one
    Mother North – united we stand (together we walk)
    Phantom North – I’ll be there when you hunt them down

      1. I don’t like anything past the “Megiddo” EP. Sounded too much like a bad Motorhead ripoff after that. And I don’t like Motorhead all that much.

      1. We can go back and forth all day with the good stuff. Pretty much open a bandcamp profile and follow Dark Descent Records, Nuclear War Now! Productions, Hells Headbangers Records, Iron Bonehead Productions and Invictus Productions and you’re pretty much set.

  31. Looks like I didn’t make it inb4 the metal circle jerk
    but rap is probably the most redpill genre
    most extreme metal doesn’t even address human sexuality

    1. Yeah, black metal fans tend to take themselves WAY to seriously.
      There’s some good stuff from the 90s/early 2000s, but really black metal is about 98% crap.

      1. Trve black metal warriorz fight 10 on 1 kvlt style lolol
        Varg Vikernes, the Eliot Rodger of metal lolol
        Bands named after a 40K reference (Nargaroth) …. etc…

    2. Don’t pretend like your vag doesn’t juice up when you hear some heavily distorted guitar shreds.

    3. Rap Is generally infantile pseudo alpha, wannabe tough guy garbage mate. Theres some decent shit, sure – but saying rap is redpill is waaaay overselling it

  32. great article (including the disclaimer). i watched a ‘v sauce’ (great youtube channel) clip recently where the narrator discusses this very topic… he reminds viewers that ever since the beginning of recorded-music, there has been total crap-music recorded/broadcast… it’s just these songs (thankfully) often fade into oblivion and aren’t heard again. i will be shocked if iggy has any kind of lasting power with her lowest-common denominator ‘music’ is around in 5 years time (anyone remember the name of that group that had the song ‘like a g-6’ from a couple years back? me neither).

      1. Some of the harmonies on the last song are incredible. If ball-cutting feminists/society at least had their victims producing these falsetto notes it would be some reconciliation

  34. another quick music quip… i have a much younger sister… i let her trade-off with me (me:her – 80:20) to some modern pop music in my car because i’m a good big-brother (and conversely i play the fantastic rock music that has endured for decades to help open her eyes to what i see as quality!).
    anyhow, take my word for it that the lyrics in these modern pop songs are so transparent to sell to this biggest (ie. basest/lowest) demographic, it makes me want to puke… one song i heard sung by a man-boy praised the fatness of his girl… (and you know the fatties out there lap this shit up). meanwhile, any female in pop praises all the narcissistic, egotistic, entitled bullshit of young-women that reinforces the downward spiral we’re in. kudos to the record-companies for knowing how to make the buck though! appeal to the fat, the stupid, the entitled, and watch that cash come rolling in!

  35. ‘we didn’t start the fire….it was always burning since the world was turning’…

  36. My personal opinion is:
    The music made today is just pop,yep that’s right just pop and it manages to dilute other genres so that songs seem to be new and original. It aims to make money and just money by bastardising a few genres into one “revolutionary song” in order to have a wider target audience! Its bullshit!!
    Drum & Bass and Hip-hop come to mind first! Female lead and back up singers singing about their struggle(mainly love and betrayal), breakups and all that shit, and they do it in an non-artistic, talentless way. Adele or Sam Smith may pop up from time to time, but these are rare. Of course there are others that are marginally famous and talented but the mainstream shite you see on TV and hear on radio shape and influence the vast majority of people around us and thus moulding the society in a certain shape e.g. feminism.
    The music industry don’t displace agents into venues or pubs to find the next iconic sound (think bob Marley, rolling stones) but pick a person that would looks good and has a reasonable voice and then invent a new persona. It’s made in a music factory by specialists in various music-related domains and launch an aggressive marketing campaign to force feed the music into listeners’ ears. However, the music is not made on the spot; nowadays there are is a wagon full of remixes of older and successful songs turned into new songs e.g.Florida with his whistle song and Pitbull.
    With no artist input and unexpected bursts of genius, the record labels have total control over the final product.

    1. Well, there’s pop and then there’s pop.
      I’m not a pop fan myself, but if I was forced to choose between Neil Diamond and any modern pop, I would take Neil Diamond because at least he is a truly talented singer with a good voice.

      1. Old pop songs were not totally under the control of the industry. Sweet Caroline is melodious and warming whereas Drake is under total control from the higher ups.

        1. What’s the best source to find out about those hierarchies? (there is a lot of fear-porn rubbish out there)

        2. My comment is just a simple observation of the music industry over the last 15 years or so. You can deduce that music has been getting the cookie cutter treatment in the last 7-8 years and not many genres are coming out! Also a lot of popular songs nowadays borrow hooks from successful songs.
          Moreover, music seems to be aimed more at 13 yo girls than anything. Look at any documentary and see how genderless music was back in the 70s. Well, some songs were for women but now everything has a whiny female element to it.

  38. I’m glad you didn’t throw hip-Hop under the bus like so many are won’t to do.

  39. My hope is kids today who REALLY like music will go back and listen do the old stuff. “So, you like Coldplay? You know, they said they were huge Beatles fans. You should listen to them, if you like Coldplay so much, don’t you think?”

    1. yeah, but listening to the beatles means you have to listen to Lennon’s retarded bullshit lyrics.
      Mcartney was a genius. Lennon shoulda been capped a decade earlier.

      1. I never understood all the Beatles mania. I guess at the time it was something new so those people were in their own world, but even my 40 something buddies who like Led Zep, The Who, Rush etc. will damn near request a moment of silence to be overcome with awe if you even so much as mention The Beatles. I don’t get it.

        1. They did more to push the progressive movement than almost anyone else in history. Lennon was a dyed-in-the-wool marxist, and the beatles were almost singlehandedly responsible for the godless hippie movement, so beloved of Dawkinsists and ‘moral relativists’.
          They are convinced That if John had lived, he would have changed the world… not realizing, of course, that he already had, and this… this destruction of culture and civilization, is the result.
          Of course, a decent argument can be made thta he just kicked over the dominoes set in place, and someone had to do it.

  41. Just an observation of mine. Every era has had its own sound. 50’s Doo Wop, Rockabilly and Rock-N-Roll, 60’s Pop and Funk, 70’s Mo-Town, Disco and Heavy Metal, 80’s Big Hair Metal and Techno Pop. And then came the 90’s. When Bush 1 went to the Earth Summit in Rio and came back with Agenda 21 and announced the NWO on Sept. 11, 1991 things haven’t been right since. Since then it has been rap/hip hop, vapid pop, grunge which encourages depression and self destruction and nothing much else. Grunge thankfully died when that mangina Kurt Nobrain did us all a favor by chewing on a 12 gauge. But Vapid Pop today seems to have inherited the same spirit as grunge, just set to a happy and more upbeat tempo. I mean you gotta be able to dance to a tune that encourages you to go ahead and spend your entire paycheck, roll your car and just say fuck it! You gotta live for 2nite Bro/Ho! I mean as I lay there bleeding out and wondering if the medics are going to show up before I eat it I WANT to hear I Love It By Icona Pop playing on the radio. That’s my 2 cents worth anyway.

    1. you kinda left out technoindustrial, which more or less bucks the trends… well… except for that stupid emo shit.
      Frankly I just wanna go to a ‘my chemical romance’ concert and hand out fucking razor blades.

      1. At the time I was in a bit of a time constraint due to work and could not expound on it as lucidly as I would have liked to. I completely left out Country and Gospel. Don’t get me started on that. I was trying to make the point that everything is melding into a dystopian ONENESS. No real originality or art anymore. In times of yore the artist had their own sound and their own unique contribution to their form of music which emanated from their soul. You instantly knew who it was when the song began. Now “Artists” are just handed a script. Every country singer sounds exactly the same. George Jones would make you cry in your beer, today’s “country singer” SHOULD illicit multiple, savage, pointy toed boot kicks to their raisin sack groin when they start on about how we should “Get Drunk and Be Somebody.” These bastards do not deserve Grammy’s and millions of dollars. They deserve our contempt. They DESERVE to be pepper sprayed and then drug from the bumper of my pick-up truck down a pot-hole infested, unpaved road. I try not to purposefully listen to any contemporary genre of “music” in these dark days. Rage! RAGE against the dying of the light!

        1. I wonder if that’s why Michael Jackson was such an Icon… Certainly he was a child, but his music WAS different. (at least it was until the late 90’s)

  42. After many years of soul-searching – I found my musical home in Greece, Turkey, and Israel. All three are cultures where men are still respected as men. And a lot of their music reflects some degree of God-consciousness.

      1. I didn’t show it for the music. You won’t see women on the leash in american videos.

  44. i guess my taste is completely different. when you listen to music it must touch you in some way. if it doesnt, you are listening to the wrong kind of music for you. for me its straight EDM. to me, the following piece is a diamond. this kind of music with some coke and my gf is just nuts. but regarding the article, it somewhats proves every point )))
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl8SnxybIP0&t=258

      2. That class of prostitute are either (1) riddled with herpes, HPV, etc, or (2) are all business and don’t touch anyone for fear of getting herpes (a disgusting virus on the face/snatch is bad for business on the stripper pole)

        1. Some of them escort for sure. It’s the nature of the model industry. Some may be strippers. From my experience escorts are pretty clean, you have to shower on arrival n condom is always a must. But the video is set up that these girls are getting hot her (it looks one take) so I’m assuming they are getting Hornier. Must have been easy for the camera guy to take advantage of that.

  46. Most musicians of yesteryear learned music theory and mastered playing classical instruments. Then you take a poet who can express in words into the lyrics and combine them to create art.
    I only like certain metal bands. Megadeth is one where you can hear the classical music influence mixed with the metal sounds. Their lyrics talks more about politics and how it degrades society.

  47. Check out this one from Branikald (Russian BM) — the awesome descending melodies, beyond all words.

        1. Koyaanisqatsi is excellent though. Especially for the Hopi prophecy at the end: “Near the day of purification, there will be cobwebs spun back and forth in the sky”. The hubris of today’s experts don’t dare to recognise that a primitive people could see into the future and describe vapour trails. Even less so are we willing to acknowledge the end of times that have been prophesied for centuries.

  48. The only thing musically new is the mashup… some of which are much greater than the sum of their parts.

  50. Should have covered dynamic compression as well. Takes the life out of the recorded sound. Regardless, there are great artists to be found: Tool, The Heavy, Gary Clark Jr. to name a few.

  51. All rap is a marxist product, meant to undermine whites. Only weak fools purposefully listen to it to make their ego’s feel like one of the herd. As a musician for 21 years, I can attest that there is no virtuoso talent in the hip-hop industry, just a bunch of tattooed thug-looking dope-fiends.

    1. It’s been called the epitome of red pill by some here. Bitches and hoes put in their place. While I’m on the subject one of the most depressing developments in the culture is the near complete meltdown in the black community. Spirituals, gospel, r and b, blues, jazz, early rock n roll, the great era of soul in the 60s. Now what? American blacks took their greatest achievement ever, their music, and turned it into a steaming pile of crap. Gerald Early, the noted essayist and professor once stated “I think there are only three things America will be known for 2,000
      years from now when they study this civilization: the Constitution, jazz
      music, and baseball.” I get it Gerald, but it’s mostly gone now.

      1. Hmm, maybe. Black musicians co-created rock n’ roll pretty much with the evolution of blues and jazz. Rap and Hip-hop have none of the intellectual acumen that it took to be that creative with the early days of performance. I don’t care about all the white bankers and ballers and players that listen to it nowadays, they’re still full of shit, and more of enablers to the dumb black “artists” who create this garbage in the first place.
        Unfortunately, the stupidity of youth has rap music forming all over the world, as I had seen recently in Europe. Everytime I see a white male espouse the playing of, listening of, or approval of rap and hip-hop, I tell him to look in a mirror, and take a last look at what he is destroying.

        3. Sounds like me and metal music.
          But I actually meant.
          .” I tell him to look in a mirror, and take a last look at what he is destroying.”
          This sounds like fear.

        4. More like this: You, as a white male, look into a mirror and look at what you are. The rap shit you listen to which hates you more than anything else in the world, hates you and the order your ancestors have brought forth out of nothing, wants you to commit suicide while its males fuck your women into submission and miscegenation, eradicating your race forever. You white males who comply to this social peer pressure to listen to this, (none of that bs about liking rap, its all talentless shit) I don’t like metal either, but at least that genre doesn’t espouse the agenda of destroying the white race, or at least fucking it up majorly.

        6. What rap songs have you listened to that told you that all rap wants to destroy you?

      2. There are a lot of groups that get mistakenly christened as Red Pill icons;
        -Hip Hop Af-Am males
        -Islamic extremists
        -Hollwood icons.
        Af-Am’s don’t even pay their own way and they cry all the time about imaginary slights. They are victims down to their soul.
        Islamic extremists are cowards, will die not only for pussy, but imagined, afterworld pussy that they don’t even like. They’re faggots.
        Hollywood icons aren’t real people.

  52. Nothing new. There will always be shitty music and artists. Time is what weeds them out. I just saw that Khia video for the first time. Very enlightening. I just wiki’d her.It said that it took her 15 minutes to write that song like it was a work of groundbreaking genius. Pretty weak shit just like most of hip hop. Let em have their ghetto thug culture and kill each other off.
    That kind of thing isnt anything new. They used to call it blue music and it was blues based in the early 1900’s.The lyrics were rife with double entendres and not as blatantly descriptive but they meant the same thing. Hip hop doesnt have time for nuances of subtlety. Like I’ve said before.Women are just as or more sexual than guys are.It’s just that they are coy about it and wait till they find an alpha to unleash it. I think its good that women are open about being sexual creatures you just dont have to be tasteless and crass like Myley Syphlis and her ilk are about it about it.
    As a musician all my life, Ive been well aware of how shitty music is. There was always shitty music from when I could remember. One of the ways Ive avoided hearing this awfull shit was I decided to stop listening to the radio, even rock radio and the bands weren’t too bad.Its just that they played the same shit every hour and the intelligence insulting ads. Then a few years ago I pretty much stopped watching t.v.I got tired of constant ads and just plain stupid bullshit. Probably the best move Ive ever made. Now I watch what I want when I want by finding it on primewire or youtube. Quit mass media you’ll be so much happier for it.
    Just like almost everything in todays culture, everything has been globalised and ghettoized. Sports ,t.v, music and everything else is marketted to the ignorant that are easy prey to advertisers. Why do you think all the shows on daytime t.v are so ghetto? Do you think the average t.v watcher in the day is a fortune 500 C.E.O. No. Its the blue pill, Idiocracy, Wal Mart ghetto nation watching daytime t.v.
    Quit Mass media.It’ll be the smartest thing you’ve ever done. You’ll be glad you did.

  53. Learn to create your own music- on guitar, piano, whatever, and share it with the world. It’s one of life’s greatest pleasures. Drinking beers at a bar on open mic night with your buds taking turns screwing up on stage in front of everyone is an absolute blast. Playing in a park on a nice day, people just naturally congregate around you (if you have skills) and share in the joy.
    That being said, I do agree with much of the article.

  54. For a first hand account of how the Western musical tradition was deconstructed, there is no better place to begin than with E. Michael Jones’ eminently readable book.
    Dionysos Rising: The Birth of Cultural Revolution out of the Spirit of Music
    The decline started with Wagner and Schoenberg …

  55. I can tolerate and like most kinds of genres of music. To each their own, but if someone tells me they listen to pop bullshit like the stuff posted above I will automatically write them off as an idiot

  57. Listen to these lyrics by an ugly, demanding woman.

    Unbelievable dirt.
    One more reason to go MGTOW.
    http://i.imgbox.com/Ur0LdJlk.jpg
    MEGHAN TRAINOR
    Dear Future Husband Lyrics
    Dear future husband,
    Here’s a few things
    You’ll need to know if you wanna be
    My one and only all my life
    Take me on a date
    I deserve it, babe
    And don’t forget the flowers every anniversary
    ‘Cause if you’ll treat me right
    I’ll be the perfect wife
    Buying groceries
    Buy-buying what you need
    You got that 9 to 5
    But, baby, so do I
    So don’t be thinking I’ll be home and baking apple pies
    I never learned to cook
    But I can write a hook
    Sing along with me
    Sing-sing along with me (hey)
    You gotta know how to treat me like a lady
    Even when I’m acting crazy
    Tell me everything’s alright
    Dear future husband,
    Here’s a few things you’ll need to know if you wanna be
    My one and only all my life
    Dear future husband,
    If you wanna get that special lovin’
    Tell me I’m beautiful each and every night
    After every fight
    Just apologize
    And maybe then I’ll let you try and rock my body right
    Even if I was wrong
    You know I’m never wrong
    Why disagree?
    Why, why disagree?
    You gotta know how to treat me like a lady
    Even when I’m acting crazy
    Tell me everything’s alright
    Dear future husband,
    Here’s a few things
    You’ll need to know if you wanna be
    My one and only all my life (hey, baby)
    Dear future husband,
    Make time for me
    Don’t leave me lonely
    And know we’ll never see your family more than mine
    I’ll be sleeping on the left side of the bed (hey)
    Open doors for me and you might get some kisses
    Don’t have a dirty mind
    Just be a classy guy
    Buy me a ring
    Buy-buy me a ring, (babe)
    You gotta know how to treat me like a lady
    Even when I’m acting crazy
    Tell me everything’s alright
    Dear future husband,
    Here’s a few things
    You’ll need to know if you wanna be
    My one and only all my life
    Dear future husband,
    If you wanna get that special loving
    Tell me I’m beautiful each and every night
    Future husband, better love me right

    1. Come on, let’s not act butthurt about this stupid stuff. We are better than this. Unlike feminists, we should not be offended about everything.

    2. she has an average face at best, her lyrics tell me that she wants a guy that wants to supplicate to her in every way (beta), yet we enlightened red pillers know that in real life, if you act like that (not unless you are a 10/10 greek god like figure, six pack abs 0% body fat adonis) you will get ignored and dry her pussy up faster than a shamwow.

  58. Current popular music really sucks. Most artists use autotune and other editing tools to sound better. A lot of them actually can’t sing for jack shit. Physical appearance is the only thing that matters. But what the hell the appearance of someone should be that important for music? I thought the main point of music was to hear it.

  59. Adam Carolla was right. The 13 year-old’s own music now. When you go to a sports bar and hear Iggy Azalea, who is that meant for? There are no teenagers at the bar. But for some reason teenagers are the ones who get to decide what music is cool. This should not be. Teenagers don’t have any money. If their parents would stop giving them money then the radio, spotify, and others would stop getting ad revenue based on music that only dumbass kids listen to.

    1. ” . . . for some reason teenagers are the ones who get to decide what music is cool.”
      That has been true since at least the time of Johann Strauss the Younger.

  60. Interesting, how melodic/symphonic black metal has more interesting sounds than todays modern pop music.




    1. Is Demon Burger still around? I remember them from when I was in high school back in the 90s.

      1. yes, they are still going, their last album was back in 2013. wasnt as good as the older stuff.

    2. It’s a shame that Dimmu are recognized as a good black metal band, while the vastly superior Immortal are unknown.

  61. “perverted” – past tense verb.
    perverse – adjective.
    I will never stop correcting this shit.

  62. DJ-ing is the biggest scam in modern music.
    Some jerk-off puts a playlist together at home, then goes on stage and with his Macbook and pretends to be doing stuff and makes about $25,000 a night.

  63. 6. The songs themselves suck. Poor compositions, shoddy lyrics, generally uninspired and unoriginal. You can argue that there are only so many songs, written or unwritten, to go around; but if you start with the lyric the possibilities are endless. Noel Gallagher at his peak (20 years ago) was the last great songwriter around.

  64. The Weeknd has ridiculous vocal control and skill. He’s an RnB beast. You can’t put him and Top 40 Levine in the same category.

  67. There are plenty of artists today that follow the ways of old, however that doesn’t sell, the majority of the population became more degenerate and as a result so did thier taste in music.

  68. 1. And yet, most people I ran into both online and in real life complain about classical, which I personally appreciate.
    2. That kind of marketing only makes me a bigger fan of a certain J-pop group.
    3. Yuck; even women would not even ADMIT how much they hate those.
    4. ALL music genres have a pattern.
    5. Blame sexual repression all the way from Victorian England.

    1. “2. That kind of marketing only makes me a bigger fan of a certain J-pop group.”
      Let me guess, you’re a BabyMetal fan. They’re growing up to be pretty decent looking.

  69. #6. Everything is now a Duet. 2 people (or more) smagushed together (who can’t sing btw without a synthesizer) singing crap. It actually goes along with #4 in the list.
    Real bands (real singers as well) got along with a bad album or 2. They were great because of that and they loved the art. The crap today must be an AmericanIdollookalikeoryouareafuckingfailureorsomething.

  70. Stop listening to MUH DIK music. If you want insane masculine sounding vocals, you go to death metal or black metal. No sexualized lyrics and they all deal with political and philosophical issues. Despite some of the retarded “Satanic” showmanship, the music and lyrics are actually deep. Try Throne of Time from Mayhem on for size. Mystical Nietzschean nihilism and 100% masculine. It’s 4 minutes of warlike skullfuck.

    2. Though I enjoy some Immortal or Nile,I consider Black and Death Metal enemies of my beloved Thrash.

      1. Nah, not enemies. Merely offshoots. It was thrash like Slayer and Venom that created Death Metal and Black Metal to begin with. Plus much of Scandinavian death and black metal has evolved into other stuff like Folk Metal and Pagan Metal.

        1. My problem is that many younger metal fans consider thrash antiquated because it’s not “extreme” enough, while in reality 90% of Black and Death Metal is unlistenable garbage, like early Carcass, Cannibal Corpse or the many lo-fi black metal bands or the symphonic shit like Dimmu.It was Opeth that actually made me appreciate Death Metal. Thank God for bands like Kyuss and early Monster Magnet and all the other stoner metal bands that made the 90’s scene bearable.

    3. Death metal isn’t music. It is noise, just like rap.
      If I wanted to hear that kind of shit I’d enlist and go to an Iraqi war zone.

  71. I guess the first thing to point out is that these are not new phenomena. You can go back to the early 80s with the introduction of drum machines to find everything in perfect synch to 4/4 time. Madonna was the material girl. A lot of the new wave songs sounded like they were sung by chicks. Maybe you’ve got me on #4 but on #5 my high school in 1985 put on a stage show for parents and students. I attached myself to a band and we blasted out a couple of Billy Idol songs (so maybe I was part of the problem) but I was gobsmacked when a bunch of little Filipina teens did a dance routine to Prince’s Erotic City. I mean really, there is your little princess gyrating to lyrics about losing their cherry and having casual sex.
    .
    I listened to a audio book – How Music Works – by David Byrne of Talking Heads fame. He gets into some of these issues in a very interesting way.

  72. I don’t know if anyone’s mentioned this already, but although I agree with 90% this article, you should listen to the Kendrick Lamar’s/Childish Gambino’s of the music world; their latest EPs (To Pimp A Butterfly, Because The Internet, Kauai) is chock full of 70’s/80’s hip-hop and jazz, and aren’t any of the above mentioned points against modern music.

  73. Maybe we need to redo some Beach Boys songs, ROK-style:
    My Little Deuce 22s (You don’t know what I got)
    Surfing USA (porn sites because the bitches IRL are cunts)
    Kino-Mo!
    Fun, Fun, Fun (until the wall takes her good looks away)
    Sloop John B (with a bunch of MGTOW)
    Wouldn’t It Be Nice (if you would not divorce rape me)

  74. Recently, have been listening to a lot of music with minimal vocals. Thinking/working/studying/reading music. Sountracks, original compositions and the like. Zack Hemsey’s “The Way” album is incredible. Probably one of the best albums of the decade so far IMO, and he’s a little known composer making musical scores for film and TV, says something about the state of modern mainstream commercial music.

  75. Well, wayyy back Yes said “Do NOT feed the Pop Machine, it’ll eat you alive”
    I’m more into “Progressive Rock” myself that while full of ultra left wingers is very talented, widespread and visionary. Prog Rock’s dead, cliche, passe… But they keep on Proggin and Proggin and march to the beat of a different Mellotron/Synthesizer/Flute…
    Besides old stuff like Yes or King Crimson I’d recommend “Transatlantic – The Whirlwind” – check out on YouTube and buy/support the bands if you like.
    Be cool if there were more stuff like the “Conan” soundtrack.

  76. OK, I’ll bite. I like the Weeknd, but I agree most music today is overproduced feminist squealing or beta longing garbage. Artists are also using heavy production to compensate for shit song writing. If you can’t make a song work with just guitar and voice as a foundation, adding your 12th track of synths isn’t going to make it better.
    When I’m not moonlighting as a pseudonymous neo-reactionary internet commenter, I moonlight as a singer/songwriter in the Dylan/Springsteen style. At my last show I opened with a cover of Born in the USA. It turned heads because people saw a young-ish guy singing a masculine song with conviction. The song also has a message that is mostly ignored by the feminist/marxist propaganda machine. I think people are hungry for raw, immediate, stripped down performances with a message that’s not just “Go Girls!” or “Fuck me please”.

  77. This is all so true. But nobody in the stupid music “industry” will listen. It’s infested.
    One would think they would look at their own numbers and realize how horrible they are doing at choosing “talent.” Total sales of music in 2014 across all formats were 60% lower than in 2014. 60% lower!! (No this is not due to digital downloads, because that is factored into these numbers). 60% less revenue after adjust for inflation!!
    It truly is remarkable that the music industry keeps doing what it is doing, because it is such a disaster.
    But, it, like most industries, is infiltrated with SJW’s. They don’t care about success. They care about ruining society. The same thing goes for Holywood, though thanks to the men that design special effects, as well as men that make interesting protagonists (American Sniper), at least Holywood has managed not to shrink. Not yet. But it will. Thanks Birdman.

  81. Music is mood enhancement. I read on here awhile back RAP or hip hop being called AFRICAN MATING MUSIC. Very accurate, especially the sexually explicit songs. Music can also be WAR BEAT played for troops surging into battle with drums, bagpipes or flutes or symphony music from a squadron of Bell Huey helicopters.
    JACK WITH OUR MUSIC and you’re jacking with our instinctive mating rituals.
    The mating ritual is primarily what is enhanced or induced with most dance music, from folk music to square dance. Amplifiers from the 40’s through the 70’s had test tubes and delivered a coarse but clear ‘tubular’ sound that you could feel in your bones. But with the advent of synthesizers, the smooth instrumental sound has been perfected to become the perfect DELIVERY MECHANISM to deliver a repeating message or jingle to the listener, thoroughly penetrating their subconscious as well, whether it be messages to mutilate your body or to jazz up the speed on the treadmill at the gym. It is the sugar that helps the medicine go down or the lube that allows a big fat dick to forge ahead so to speak making ‘wide open spaces’ of what would be prohibitively limited in size otherwise. AND THE REPETITIVE MESSAGE delivered can be either innocuous or it can be a harmful message. The smooth mesmerizing music is only the lube that helps PACK IT IN to your mind with its guard down.
    The latter half of the 20th century saw popular music do literal BACK FLIPS every 5 years or so. Popular music post war went from big band sound ‘swing’ ballroom dance (white mating music) with the big band sound of Benny Goodman to ‘rock and roll’ and rockabilly within a decade. People nostalgize the era with pop hits that only lasted a year or so and trends in fashion like bobby socks and Cadillacs with fins (which came and went in a 5 year span). By the time the trend was fetishized or nostalgized, the next genre was already at half life.
    EVERY FIVE YEARS, doo wop then boy or girl quartets then peace and love then acid rock then disco and finally 1980 when THE MUSIC OFFICIALLY DIED. No more back flips. THEY LANDED ON THE PERFECT SMOOTH SYNTHESIZED SOUND, the perfect smooth sounding instrumentals to deliver a repetitive message, ANY MESSAGE. The perfect brainwashing tool. Notice how early 80’s pop resembles music beats 35 years later?
    THE MUSIC HAS STOPPED CHANGING. Yes it died. Cover your eyes and disregard the date of release and the smooth beat is the same in 2015. Alien tech has raced ahead under our mesmerized noses while Sting or Adam Ant’s ‘Strip’ could pass for current hit material if it weren’t released previously. Think about it.

    1. Outstanding comment, but I’d appreciate knowing what the messages might be. Are they subliminal, under the synthesised sound? Have you ever heard these messages? Is there anything to the backmasking that is described in artists like Willow Smith, Beatles, etc. If you look at the music (porn) videos which really changed the game, they’re generally crammed full of occultist symbols.

    2. “I read on here awhile back RAP or hip hop being called AFRICAN MATING MUSIC.”
      I guess this statement is also true for actual africans that live in Africa… ?

  82. not surprising, the music industry is faultering like any other industry that lets females take over…music artists insist on putting pussy on a pedestal because females have all the buying power, the days of Joe Strummer and the Clash are long gone….I cant stand to hear how its all blamed on “pirating” uhhhh yeah females have infiltrated music journalism and that is a major contributor..Rolling Stone isnt even fit to line a birdcage…the magazine like music has lost its edge in the process of catering to females and their pussy bullshit.

  83. I hate to say it (as I do love a little country now and then to break up my heavy/extreme metal) but the new stuff coming out in general is quite tame. It lacks emotion, power, and delivery. (Paul Brandt exempt, Alberta boy)
    Granted, these guys of old, the Cash’s, the Haggerds et al, were halfway to the moon on drugs or drink half the time, but the felt the music. They sang and played because they needed to. It can be felt through the speakers, and it rattles the soul. Even on simple little diddies and random tracks, there was rawness and reality. No autotune, hell, some of them weren’t even that talented, but it meant something, and that is why their music endures.
    And as we all know, the hallmark of a man is his legacy, and his name being held in reverence.

  85. Number one is somewhat suspect. I’ve read countless interviews with Jimmy Page, and he was very conscious of production values and pioneering new techniques, not just “all in one take” as though it makes it more “authentic”. Starting to sound a bit hipsterish.

  86. The thing I don’t like about the music that out now is that the most famous acts are mostly made up of women. This has greatly affected the music we hear now. Women by nature are affected by music differently than guys; they prefer melody and bass thumping, butt humping rhythms in their songs with an infusion of swag.This translates to more sugary pop (Ariana Grande), boy bands (One Direction), and spoken word acts like Pit Bull (I don’t consider him or his ilk rappers) set to hip hop beats.
    Men have ceded the music charts to women because the white majority of musicians in this country have lost their swag (yes white men have it too, just a different style than black men). I’m talking about rock n roll. It went from punk, hair bands, grunge, and alternative, to shoegazing, emo and whatever the fuck AFI was. This led to the domination of hip hop.
    But there aren’t enough Eminems around to satisfy white demand, so women broke in and adopted an ultra feminine yet agressive go gurrrl hybrid style that’s really popular right now. I’m talking about Jessie J, Nicki Minaj and songs like BANG BANG into your room.
    The sad fact is that the music industry is a reflection of this country’s skewed sexual marketplace. For those of you who are familiar with Heartistes’ musings on harems, The Secret Society and alpha fux beta bux, the industry itself is operating on a similar level. I’ve been working at a high-end condo just outside NYC that houses a few producers in the industry whom I’ve met. One thing I’ve noticed over the years are all the hot young women, who turn out to be aspiring singers, paying a visit to the producers apartment for You KNow What.

    1. The only musical talent really needed is the ability to hit a low F* on cue. (F stands for pussy fart). Rather than make a separate comment, I’ll compliment the author here for the paragraph in point 5. Well done for relaying an excellent observation about the gulf in generational standards.

    2. correct for the most part.
      A big part of the problem is that in the late 20’s dopamine production really
      tappers off hard.
      Everyone always thinks that the music they liked growing up was so much better than
      the stuff they have today. The problem is that the brain just isn’t producing
      the kind of endorphin that make new things exciting any more.
      The adoration of older music is almost 100% nostalgia.
      It is why people still think that the Beatles are anything more than a decent
      pop band with ok harmonies and middling lyrics. A generation was sold the
      Beatles by some very savvy record producers and those people played the music
      for their kids when the kids were most receptive to new things. If anyone wants
      to take an objective look at the Beatles they would see that there are about 10
      mediocre songs in their entire catalogue and not a single one that merits
      anything like the praise they get. Doesn’t matter. It is nostalgia rock.
      While it is true that music is a sign of our times, Pop
      music at least, and as our times get faggier so too will the pop music, there
      is good stuff out there now that people in their mid-thirties and above just
      can’t process because their brains are not firing in a way that makes new music
      exciting and meaningful.

      1. I don’t agree with that entirely. I first heard rap when I was 17 and a half and found it immediately stupid. I mean I was 17.5 years old, prime endorphine producing age, and rap literally repelled me as being base, stupid, barbaric and devoid of any real instrumental talent. I also wasn’t a fan of most ’80’s rock either, turning instead towards the then nascent Alternative music scene more often than not, or bands from the 1970’s.
        There is good stuff out there still and I find it and enjoy it just like anybody under 30. But the mainstream pop/rap/country scene is awful. I mean country music, where you’d think very little would have changed, is chock full of exactly three themes. 1) I’m a certified dude who wears a baseball cap and owns a pickup truck 2) I worship women and 3) Women who wants to hurt men for fun. Ugh.

  88. Modern classical music is also mostly shit (i.e. random noise) and has been since about 1900. At least you can usually listen to pop music without getting a headache.

  89. Do American women sing any lyrics today that do not have a “Men are Shit” theme?
    So much of the angry little girl. Enough already.

  90. I’ve known for years that the crap produced today is purely for social engineering. It’s not music at all. Green Day has been around for 20 years, and that’s music? It’s crap. First of all, anything that truly does have a good melody/tune with excellent lyrics & singing is too empowering, too cultural. So the social engineers of society want to make the music sound like crap to begin with. Then they want the sound of the music, lyrics, and puppet singers to represent what they want you to become and what they want women to be attracted to so that women will reproduce with losers and have loser offspring…hence, future degenerative generations.
    Starting back in the 90s, anything white was grunge. They want white guys to become slow-headed pot smoking deadbeats. They want to make it socially cool to be that way. Therefore, white females will seek out loser guys to reproduce with. Then they attack the country music scene, feminize it, promote divorce, and either produce Taylor Swift female illuminati type crap or promote the dead-beat “Larry the cable guy” drinkin-drivin’my truck-no education good ol’ country boy music. Encourage females to date and mate uneducated deadbeat “Larry the cable guy” military types.
    Same thing with blacks. Thug drug pushin’ gang bangin gin n’ juice rap music popularized so the black females will mate with corn rolled thugs. Collect welfare. And the corn rolled thugs will go off and reproduce more little thugs. Again, future degenerative generations. Believe it or not, there are actually plenty of intelligent responsible black men around that have the same problem as white guys do. Their black women shun them in favor of degenerate thugs.
    What most continuously fail to realize is that what mainstream-media/hollywood/music industry promotes as being “cool” is seen by females as having social value. It’s called fake assigned status. Females will literally chase guys that hollywood or music industry represents. Such as the movie “Knocked Up”. Guess what happened after that movie? A lot dumb idiotic females started getting the idea that it was cool, funny, and socially cool to get with a dead beat loser low IQ white guy. Women will chase guys that look like Eminem. Dumb females will watch MTV, and then they will either imitate the behaviors that they see on TV, and/or chase guys that represent what MTV shows them to be with.

    1. Spot on, although I don’t think Grunge was social engineering; it was more of a reaction from being massively lied to by society and divorced baby boomer-era parents. The Stone Roses and Oasis were massive in the UK (they were both anti-grunge bands), and that’s a heavily propagandic society as well (same people on top in charge as in the US)

  91. I enjoyed ring of fire…. it gives you a moment to think about things and what is possible and what you should do with your life.

  93. I love metal because it seems to be the last bastion of men who can really sing.
    Even when it’s in a cheesy cover song for the Eurovision song contest, their voices are great.
    Not whiny fags like Bruno Mars or that douchebag from Maroon 5.

  95. Ring of Fire was written by June Carter Cash and initially recorded by her sister Anita Carter.

  96. Bruce Springsteen every time. A great artist with genuine principles and does a lot for veterans.

    1. Stupid Lefty hippie lyrics but, yes, a man’s voice.
      I loved it when I was a hippie.

  98. SJWs like to mock people who claim pop music influences behavior—but then they are the first ones to flip out if a doll isn’t made of a fat girl, a black girl, a girl in a wheelchair, etc.
    And heaven help them if a movie or song is made praising white straight male masculinity. Look at the savagery thrown at “American Sniper” and Toby Keith’s “Angry American” tune.
    Hypocrites.

  99. This is why I like metal. The grunts, lyrics that avoid love as a theme, guitar riffs that sound hypnotizing, fast dubbel bass drums.

  101. I’ll rebut.
    Why Any Musician is Alpha As Fuck
    #1.) It Takes Balls To Perform In Front of a Crowd, Period
    #2.) They Often Work Like Rabid Animals to Stay Relevant
    Yeah, the world moves much faster thanks to the internet. With that being said, if you’re not regularly producing content, it’s easy for any hype an artist gains to be easily forgotten if he rests on his heels too long. Also, what does get released is a process. An artist can quickly throw together the “skeleton” of, maybe, 10 songs a day, let’s say. However, maybe only 1 of those 10 are going to “click” or “work”. Every musician has this issue.
    A singing guitarist will go through line after line until he finds just the right one to fit his guitar riff, or vice versa. Same applies to an electronic musician. Now, consider that the electronic musician is doing everything solo.
    #3.) They Do It Themselves
    Many electronic artists, to save on costs and expand their musical knowledge (and yes, knowing how to mix and master DOES make the Production phase easier in some ways), learn to mix and master their songs themselves. So, not only are you the songwriter, you’re the mixing engineer and the mastering engineer. Lots of skills and talents required for both mixing and mastering, so these people are very intelligent, at least musically.
    #4.) They’re Opportunists, and…
    Okay, so you hate Skrillex’s music with the fire of a million suns. It just doesn’t vibe with you, and that’s going to happen; you’re not going to like everything. However, there ARE people that are fucking CRAZY about the genre, and that creates a market of people to buy your product.
    #5.) They’re Doing What They Love For A Living
    What the fuck else can you ask for? Again, you hate Skrillex, think he looks like a weasley “beta bitch” with a “feminine” haircut? Fine! Guess what? He’s making HEAPS of cash, and banging superhotties on a global scale, all while doing something he’s absolutely crazy about (being a musician). Sounds like the life, doesn’t it, ‘Captain Alpha’?

    1. 1) not if you’re on drugs like most of them are.
      2) uh no… Most don’t work nearly as much as you make it sound, I know maybe 20 or so musicians and one works hard.
      3) most don’t do anything themselves, very few write music or songs, most buy the rights and then auto tune sing the shit 50 times and have a. Producer put it all together in editing.
      4) not relevant
      5) he bangs tons of girls due to fame and money, not some other reason.

      1. Such negativity! Probably just buthurt that Justin Bieber is more alpha than you.

    2. you could say the same thing about court jesters, circus performers or monkey’s at the zoo. Part of the problem is that instead of just using music as a tool to relax or connect with our inner selves or as a way to open the world to us we started praising these buffoons.

      1. “about court jesters, circus performers or monkey’s at the zoo.” Exept those people aren’t making massive loads of money or getting women.

        1. Neither are 99% of musicians. In fact, I think circus performers probably do better on average

  102. The most disgusting thing in Iggy Azalea’s video is her low-pitched man voice. I wanted to puke after hearing it.

  104. Johnny Cash is awesome. Too bad for you that the very masculine Ring of Fire was written, infact, by a woman – June Carter, his lover.

    1. Too bad for you the point the author was making was that Johnny Cash actually sounded like a man while singing and not a man trying to sound like a woman.

  105. Funny how you’re dismissing The Weeknd for not sounding ‘deep’ enough when anyone with good hears could recognize his mad vocal skill and control.
    Plus his lyrics most of y’all would enjoy, considering how harshly he depicts women in his songs.

    1. True. Weeknd doesn’t play games. He tells ’em how it is and how it’s going down.

    1. Didn’t sing it, though, praise God. That woman could break crystal glasses, her notes were so off-key.

  107. “In my day we had good music, not the noise you youngsters listen to. And get off my lawn, dammit!”

  108. “In my day, we loved our girlfriends and whipped our niggers. Now it’s the other way around!”

  109. Interesting discussions going on tonight. Perhaps some of you need to tone down on the Kratom injections. I had a joke, but I’ll just leave this here & keep scrolling.

  111. What do you guys have against swearing so much? its just words, y’know sounds that come out of the mouth.
    Whats so bad about it?

    1. It’s a sign of low intelligence, low self control, low self esteem, low education and low status. As simple as that.

        1. Keep in mind that “science” is being used by the Left to justify every single one of their bad habits.

        2. Hehe, good try but irrelevant to what I’m saying.
          If we go about it the other way around and look at the 25% of people who swear most all the time as a group – do you think they place around middle, above or below average IQ? Not hard to figure out put this way.
          Verbal interest is the same way, if we look at our previous group, would their language skills and vocabulary rank below, at or above average?
          What’s important is to consider what something like swearing is likely to indicate about a person, not what the impossibly rare exceptions could be.
          I’m sure there is some guy out there who has exceptional self control, regular exercise and is a badass martial artist who looks like a blimp, but that doesn’t stop me from thinking someone is lacking in those areas if they look like a blimp.

    2. some of Amy Winehouse’s songs were pretty good, and then for no reason she’d insert a word like ‘fuckery’ in a song. In Me and Mr Jones it doesn’t even rhyme with anything. The song sounds like it could be a classic twenty years from now except that generation will need to be fine with a completely gratutitous ‘fuckery’ in the second verse

        3. actually I meant to write smurfy but the spellchecker changed it to shpongle for some reason!

  114. That’s why I listen to music mostly from the late 60s to early 70s. James brown mostly…the cultural influences, primal grooves and vocals, being sung by a man with a nose to the grindstone work ethic. Doent get much better

    1. I always assumed that fag accent is a mating call which is meant to approximate the sound of a mouth being full of cocks. Eventually the faggots will evolve and grow bright plumage and will no longer have the need to talk like such lisping marys.

    2. WOW! The article is amazing, not just what it says, but the writing. I found it funny that reading though the article, I was thinking “where does Brian Wilson fit in this?” And then, he pretty much sums it up perfectly.

  116. I’m glad you wrote that intro because there’s PLENTY of good music of all genres coming out right now if you avoid the mainstream.

    1. fucking gang starr.
      Now that is some shit right there. reaching deep here man. I love it.

        1. I know this shit from way back. And now I am remembering when they teamed up with Nice N Smooth and made DWYCK

    1. Metal is a dead genre. It hasn’t really evolved instrumentally (like, at all), and the vocals are mediocre at best if you can actually hear them (they are washed out from all of the amped up guitar/bass).

      1. I’m not entirely sure you’re listening to a wide variety of such as you can be assured there’s some great stuff out there where the mixes aren’t shit; unless you listen to black metal where the whole point of that movement is to be raw, grim and lo-fi to eschew all the modern ‘frills’ and ‘faggotry’.

  120. BTW a lot is made about the (wonderful) ring of fire Cash tune both from a year ago and today, but the Kingsmen really need to be pointed out. They made really enjoyable music. They made the music the star and not themselves….everyone knows their songs but only super die hard fans know anything about them…..they were so on point and were having fun. That was a really fantastic band and the inclusion in this article (for all the right reasons) was excellent.

    2. Every band in junior high school just HAD to play “Louie Louie”
      It was easy music – easy to play and easy to dance to.

  121. I blame hip hop. Although some can be decent if done right, it’s focus on materialism, ego, and lack of instrumental talent has been like a plague that has infected all forms of modern music. It’s cheap and easy to produce and can be pumped out to the masses
    Also, wtf happened to rock stars. Back in the day these dudes would do every drug on the table, bang a dozen underage groupies, drive a motorcycle through a hotel, throw a few TVs out the window and write a song about it. Today they’re mostly pajama boys singing about their “feelings.”

    1. Also, wtf happened to rock stars. Back in the day these dudes would do
      every drug on the table, bang a dozen underage groupies, drive a
      motorcycle through a hotel, throw a few TVs out the window and write a
      song about it. Today they’re mostly pajama boys singing about their
      “feelings.”
      They simply mirror the overall change in society with regards to the destruction of masculinity. It’s what happens when you let Hipsters have access to musical instruments.

    2. I don’t know maybe you should go see an actual rock band instead of watching them on the TV. There’s plenty of brilliant bands out there which is why i still do the Download music festival. Anyway, I sort of see that self destructive and much idolized rock star lifestyle as the root cause of legitimatized juvenile behavior. It’s all very childish at the end of the day. Just look at Justin Beiber. He’s living that kind of life. I agree about hip hop to a certain extent. It’s my view that a lot of hip hop artists are brilliant at grass roots level but once they achieve fame it all goes to crap. Rap about real life is great. Rap about how rich you are is awful.

      1. Yeah, I’d agree that there are some great rock bands out there. I think the issue is that people are (rightly) pissed off that the biggest music is no longer the best music like it has been in the past.

        1. True but i think most people who have even a passing interest in music know mainstream to be crap. It’s made for drunk girls to strut up and down to and that’s about it. You go to music events and not backwater clubs in small towns and there’s still so much good shit out there. Of course if you’re a classic rock fan you have to broaden your tastes a bit!

      2. I’m a music fan, so I do go out to see shows quite often. There is a lot of new music that I like, but very little in the way of rock. Most of what passed for rock today is a.) a less talented re-hash of things that were done decades ago or b.) hipsters strumming banjos or playing “synth.”
        I think the your example of the Download festival proves the point. Look at the lineup. People are going there to see bands that built their legacy decades ago – Sabbath, Maiden, Megadeath… even Korn and the Deftones came up in the 90’s.
        As a matter of fact I think you would be hard pressed to name one rock star who has been a household name since the 90s. Jack White is the only example I can think of and still I don’t your mother would know who he is. I’m guessing you’re from the UK so maybe Pete Doherty? Still, I don’t think many Americans would know who he is.
        But, getting back to your point these guys back in the day lived a wild lifestyle and thus made wild music to tell about it. We take it for granted now, but do you realise how revolutionary (in musical terms) these guys were back in the day? Would I recommend their lifestyle for the average joe, no, but I see they way they lived much differently than a modern pop star who has a publicity agent who knows how to draw media attention a la Justin Beiber. Even that being said, I would excuse his shitty behaviour if he actually made good music…

        1. Well yeah household names are not coming from the world of rock these days. Tastes have changed. Metal is dying out but new bands exist. It’s sad even at download you have to go to the lesser stages to see them but that’s just because to get the average joe through the gate they need the big names of the 90s on the main stage. As far as I’m concerned the renegade spirit lives on through electronic DJs and hip hop artists. Again, the mainstream is a load of crap but an east end london drum and bass event at say Phonox in Brixton is not for boy scouts.

  122. Todays mainstream music is completely soulless. I would wager that the producers are starting to use algorythms for the final product

    2. Basically. They just take some shitty repetitive chorus, they use it basically the whole song, and then find some electronica beat to go behind it, and then add really repetitively simple and fake sounding synth created “guitar” to go with it.

    1. I doubt many guys around here listen to the vocalists of the 40s and 50s like Sinatra, Nat King Cole and Dean Martin. Most guys here would probably think their songs are very beta, but there was a masculinity to their singing that is no longer heard in the majority of popular male singers. The only contemporary singers I can think of who actually have any kind of male authority in their singing are Harry Connick Jr. and Seth Macfarlane. (Macfarlane may be a leftist asshole, but I have to give credit where credit is due, the man can sing.) And as for the songs themselves, a lot of them may have been pining torch songs, but they were much more sophisticated than almost anything we’re hearing today.

        1. He certainly is, God bless him. Can’t believe I forgot him. It’s amazing that the man is almost 90 years old and he still sounds great for a man his age.

        2. The only man in the world who could get Lady Gaga to sing like a real person of talent. His duet work of the recent past has been keeping him young.

        4. I was amazed at the Bennett/Gaga duet. I asked myself “who is that woman? She can sing!” I went and looked up some of her prior stuff and it was terrible.
          The Great American Songbook will shine in musical history.
          Louie Armstrong is another man who sings like a man. Love his duets with Ella Fitzgerald,

    2. “All I hear are whiny high-pitched men” Hey, men who can do falsetto actually sound pretty good, high pitched singing sounds bad when men attempt to sing like women (which isn’t what falsetto is).

    1. That is what caused the decline of western classical, but pop only started to decline 30 years later.

      1. In a sense though its the principle of equality in music in both cases that produces rubbish tunes

  125. That is called Living in the past.
    Listen if you cant adapt, go die drinking whisky while listening to jonny cash pretending that you are Badass cowboy or a “quiet southern guy with 1 punch ko power” or whatever your imagination tells you.
    Utterly pretencious to criticize catchy thunes for the sake of feeling better than the rest.

    1. No, it really isn’t. What precisely about his critique is wrong? The beats thing is very noticeable, and it doesn’t take much radio time to rack up the “man hate” and “grrrl power” songs by the boatload nowadays.
      Saying “derp, u r oldz!” is not really a rational critique of an essay.

    3. Cash was an example of a man with a masculine voice. Do you understand examples? If not, just think of it as “sampling”…

  126. My two favorite artists are Lindsey Stirling and Linkin Park (very different kinds of music, i know). I’m sure lots of people here know LP, but I love Lindsey Stirling because her music is catchy and beautiful at the same time. She’s not mainstream, so you’ll almost never hear her on the radio but man shes good. She’s best descibed as a dancing dubstep violinist. She has lots of original music, but this one cover is stuck in my head so i’ll just share it:

  127. While I do agree with the OP that music has been really dumbed down to become mass entertainment, I think the greater issue that surrounds the entire entertainment industry is lack of creativity.
    There have been a few bands here and there that crop up that are actually pretty good and unique, but as an industry I think they have reached some kind of peak. I mean there is only so many rock bands that can fill a genre before it gets really old.
    So all the slutification, High T/High E, is all there to cover up the fact that the music itself is really bland and lacks any substance.
    Unless somebody with true musical genius invents a new genre altogether I think we will continue to witness music trying to compensate with visuals and impeccable engineering for what is really just stale art.
    In a way the industry sort of trapped itself by achieving such high perfectionism, that anything less than stellar engineering just doesn’t make the airwaves anymore which probably prevents genuinely talented and creative people from getting the airtime they deserve.

    1. I think it comes down to this….. in the past 60 years or so we have seen an explosion of technology that allowed musicians to see, hear and build upon each others music at a speed that was unprecedented. Recorded music really wasn’t a thing before the 1950s, and then you had people going from acoustic instruments, to electric ones with amplification, an explosion in the psychedelic drug scene ( I don’t care what anyone says they DO enhance creativity) to synthetic sounds produced by computers and studio techniques. By the late 60s/ early 70s, it was already all laid out.
      Can some genius come along and change everything….perhaps, but despite all the new technology, we are still using musical systems that are thousands of years old.
      Am I saying that there won’t be anymore talented musicians or creativity…no of course not that would be absurd….but I think that people are going to look back on the 20th century as the golden period of music for a very long time…

      1. I completely agree with you. That everything that could possible be explored in the genres we have currently have more or less been explored. The reason the 50s and 60s were such an amazing time is because they came at the right intersection of technology, innovation, and social culture.
        Maybe we will need to wait another century or so before another revolution hits. There was a fairly sizable gap between when classical music came to the fore and when rock/jazz started making its presence known.
        The problem is that all the technology will quickly accelerate any creative thinking and the businesses will jump on it to commercialize it asap. So any genuine creativity is usually a quick blip before everybody jumps on it and squeezes the genre dry.

        1. There probably will not be another genre of music. Everything in music has been done, there is nothing new to discover. The reason rap is so popular now is because we have gone full circle musically speaking, and have returned to basic rhythm. What we should be doing is looking at our musical heritage, honoring it and creating new music in the vein of that tradition, but in our cultural arrogance we think that something “new” is happening or going to happen, when in reality it’s all been done before.

        2. The problem isn’t just that their isn’t stuff to explore, it’s record labels artificially hold back creative people who make complex music, and push people who make the same basic shit. It’s why even with everything being explored, we still only hear the same singular pop mega-genre.

      2. “Am I saying that there won’t be anymore talented musicians or creativity…no of course not that would be absurd….but I think that people are going to look back on the 20th century as the golden period of music for a very long time…” I think once the big record labels go bankrupt and we move to a post label era, music is going to explode. Most musicians will just have a manager to maybe get them advertising, a sound engineer/producer (who could be themselves anyways), and then just be distributed via, YouTube, spotify, pandora, etc.

    2. The problem is that the majority of the major record companies are owned by three companies (Universal, Warner or Sony), which in turn are owned by larger media conglomerates. There’s less heterogeneity in music because it’s all controlled by corporations who see that they can make more money selling hip-hop/techno/modern pop than selling classical, jazz or other styles which require more talent and intellect to produce and appreciate. It’s all about the bottom line.

      1. It’s not about money any more. It’s about a concerted effort to destroy all pillars of morality and ethical behavior in Western Civilization.

    3. “While I do agree with the OP that music has been really dumbed down to become mass entertainment, I think the greater issue that surrounds the entire entertainment industry is lack of creativity.” Agreed. This study is a really good read about that actually: http://www.nature.com/articles/srep00521
      It basically shows how music has become louder, has less noises in it, is simpler, and less pitch range. “I think they have reached some kind of peak.” I music as an art can advance, I mean if you look at the the study I gave you, from the 50’s to the mid 60’s, their were MAJOR advancements in music complexity and timbre values. “Unless somebody with true musical genius invents a new genre altogether I think we will continue to witness music trying to compensate with visuals and impeccable engineering for what is really just stale art.” Really I think we are gonna need another 60’s like subculture to save music, and I say this as someone who hates hippy culture… “In a way the industry sort of trapped itself by achieving such high perfectionism, that anything less than stellar engineering just doesn’t make the airwaves anymore which probably prevents genuinely talented and creative people from getting the airtime they deserve.” Ironically, this actually keeps musicians from experimenting with new stuff, as a result, it over all decreases the quality of music and takes it FARTHER from perfectionism.

  128. Good God modern music sucks. Sir Harry Lauder was a good ol’ stout drinking patriot and entertainer/performer who sang for WW1 troops and who regularly performed at pubs in Scottland. His music is chock full of the nuances you mention which make old music memorable and interesting:

  129. Music is now “manufactured” without any great point stretching off into the wide distant blue horizon of the deserts and mountains where you find your soul being reflected back, like a marvelous revelation of sorts.
    Leave it to the brilliant Roy to sum up what we’ve lost.

  130. When you hear an American woman singing, 4 out of 5 times, it is about what an asshole some guy was.
    When you hear an American man singing, 4 out of 5 times, it is about how awesome she is (or was).
    The programming exists on every level, even robbing you of the ability to enjoy a simple song on a Sunday afternoon.

  132. My mother’s first husband was Jack Ely, the vocalist on Louie Louie. Yes, she was married to a rock star once. Dads experience with her pretty much has made me Red Pill my entire life

      1. They went to high school together in the Portland suburbs. Jack left the group right after the single hit.
        Moms 5 husbands, in order- Rock Star, Tennis pro, cop (my dad), ex-con, and blue collar Joe.

  133. The rap and R&B culture which is initially a “subculture” is responsible for turning a whole generation of young people into half-wits and morons. There is a reason why this kind of music is so prevalent and why the establishment loves it. It turns people into docile idiots who can’t think for themselves and don’t understand a thing about politics. A generation who looks up to drug dealers, gang bangers and whores is a doomed one.

    2. No kidding. There is no faster way to destroy a White child’s life than turning him into a rap fan. And the group responsible understands this fact very, very well. Trust me on that.

  134. This is why I will continue to listen to heavy metal, music that lends itself virtuoso musicians and has deep roots in both classical music and blues. It allows for use of other types of music too (see Sepultura Roots and Choas AD).
    Like Five Finger Death Punch says – FUCK POP!

  135. Precisely why I still listen to 90’s rap. Red pill as fuck. Unfiltered, real thoughts of real people, sharing real experiences.
    New rap? Doesn’t exist, it’s not rap, and a lot of it is propaganda. Very few select artists from the 90’s are still pushing the same type of music, and they are basically unheard of unless you actually search for them.
    Project Pat, Juicy J, Master P, and Ludacris are really the only few rappers I can think of that have some decent newer stuff. Rest of the shit out right now is garbage, Ludacris says “This one verse is harder than a lot of niggas albums” and it couldn’t be more true. Also Ludacris – Call Ya Bluff, a Drake dis, is a great track. Any track calling out how shit music is now, is a great track.
    That said, glad I’m not the only one who thinks so. Can’t get my brother off the faggot ass closet-queer rappers nowadays. He won’t stop recommending these songs to me. He says but “it’s something new”, I say I don’t give a fuck, it’s gay skinny jean wearing fag music, and I don’t listen to that shit. He says he listens for the beat, well I’m the opposite, I listen for the lyrics and the beat comes secondary. There is no substance in today’s lyrics.

    1. Sorry but there is no substance in ANY rap.
      It’s the stuff that is made by 80 IQ morons, and enjoyed by the same. Doesn’t matter what decade it’s from, it’s ALL garbage.

      1. You’re ignorant as fuck if you think that, but I keep forgetting how many racist motherfuckers there are out there.

        1. So the fact that one despises rap makes them racist? That’s a bit rich considering for example I hate it and yet will be the first to acknowledge that but for black musicians playing blues and the like there would be no rock and roll and by extension no metal.

        2. Yes, yes it does. And every motherfucker I’ve ever come across in real life that hates rap was a hardcore racist. And I’m not some SJW freak that screams racist at everything. A lot of people really are racist for no good fucking reason other than pure ignorance and/or jealousy… and I’m not even black. You can try to hide it but being racist is like being a ho; they’re both done undercover; it’s never admitted.

        3. I beg to differ. Maybe you’ve encountered some ignorant assholes but I for one despise rap but have worked and been friends with people of all kinds of races/ethnicities and whilst we have our disagreements about taste in music there’s always a level of civility and mutual respect. For me I don’t like rap on a purely musical level.
          As a matter of fact, when I saw the band Suffocation had two African American members in the guitarist and drummer I was ecstatic because it confirmed metal’s appeal that transcends race and I always like seeing metal fans from all ethnicities as it is a unifying genre of music even notwithstanding some of the asses in NSBM and the like. Rap on the other hand I feel is a genre whereby if you are white you are instantly disparaged and regarded as an ‘outsider’ and subjected to all the epithets like ‘wigger’ whereas in metal the more who enjoy it and play the better for the overall health of the genre.

    2. Rap was never appealing as it has always seemed born of a culture foreign to me. However, your post reminded me of a rap song that made me think ‘Okay, that’s actually a somewhat decent theme, even I can enjoy this on some level’. It was ‘No Holds Barred’ by Sir Mix A Lot. It even seems to be of the vintage you listen to. Would that make your playlist?

      1. Ha. Never heard it. Just played it on youtube. Good song and I totally agree with the theme or message. The beat is sort of archaic but the lyrics make up for it. That’s the kinda stuff I’m talking about. Pro 2A. Don’t hear stuff like that anymore. At least not from anybody worth a grain of salt as a lyricist.

    3. Here’s something i overheard a while ago about new rap: “This is what happens when you make songs for fashion niggas!” That cracked me up

    4. Not much into rap but I got a good musical ear but Big L was red pill as it gets!

    5. I am not into rap as music, but as Jay-Z (who I am not a big fan of) says, Rap is really poetry, and as poets, their are plenty of good rappers.

  136. Don’t forget who controls almost the entirety of the mainstream music industry.
    Everything that comes out of Hollywood (which includes all mainstream music) is firmly controlled by the same group who brought you fiat currency, central banking, gay rights, feminism, satanism, globalism, political correctness, and cultural marxism.
    It’s bizarre to me that there are still people stupid enough to believe that these so-called artists are responsible for their own style, image, and lyrical content, as if the artist is genuinely expressing his or herself. The “artists” are merely puppets who do and say exactly what they are told. Every word they sing was written by a propaganda expert.

    1. “Don’t forget who controls almost the entirety of the mainstream music industry.” Die Juden?

  138. I have to think even Freddie Mercury would make fun of adam levine and luke bryan for being so faggy…
    I do have a musical background (99% classic rock) – this article articulates some of my raw thoughts on the matter. Plain and simple, there are just are not many, if any, real men performing these days. However, there are plenty of red pill classic rock tracks. Zeppelin songs that are masculine; try ‘good times, bad times’ and ‘immigrant song’…almost anything by AC/DC (Sin City, Jailbreak). There are plenty more, but you get the idea…

  139. Just as well I avoid that shit like the bubonic and listen to metal-the last bastion of unashamed brute masculinity; and for that matter I listen to the more obscure metal which despises all the -isms that are corrupting society. So while all the ‘pack-animals’ get brainwashed by this I’m happily listening to black metal and expanding my mind.

    1. Nice bit of metal is good for the soul. One of my all time favourite albums is Black Sabbath’s first. More recently, Pig Destroyer do it for me.
      I like hardcore punk (and about a million other genres!) for blasting my brain cell. Check out Francis Harold & The Holograms.
      Currently listening to The Vaselines and Alice in Chains…

  140. As for point 1, I would actually say the opposite. Maybe in the 50’s the songs were really simple, but in the 1960’s music had a lot more effort put into it and took a long time to make. In fact, you would have 4 or 5 takes just making a vocal track (a lot of times you would also double track the vocals), and then you would have even more takes doing instrumentals, with each instrument being separately recorded (this is how you make stereo effect in music, and note that each take would sound different, so they could release the best one). Now because of computers and because record companies/musicians don’t bother with complex music anymore, you will basically have 1-3 takes (which are all the same) they take the best one, use auto-tune to get the musicians crappy voice on tune (this is where the “perfectness” comes from and why a lot of modern song , and then overdub the abomination with a beat from a synthesizer. Back in the day music used to be art, now it’s just a shitty consumer product. Here is a comparison of a this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usNsCeOV4GM or this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQ-UFKxDq5o to what is produced now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HL1UzIK-flA or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyEuk8j8imI
    As for point 3, I would like to add that everyone for what ever reason has to have a fake accent. And by that, I mean either a Southern Accent (country music) or some sort of Black accent (whether Caribbean, gay, New York, etc.). It honestly just goes to show how superficial music has become.

  141. Nice unique post. All of this goes along with the steady decline of Christianity in America. Societies need religion to prosper.

  143. Melody, harmony, rhythm, tonality, and lyrics (ie poetry.)
    The basic elements of music. What’s missing in contemporary pop music? The focus now is so much on rhythm that the other elements just fade away.
    As to the lyrics, old time dirty limericks got nothing compared to “lick my crack.” I will add that “Louie Louis” was criticized in the day for the line “gets her thrills on top of me.”
    BTW, all the black guys I knew hated to eat pussy, much less ass crack. Maybe times change!
    Also men who sang in high registers used to be called “castrati.”

    1. Eating a dirty fuck hole is not appealing. Might as well stick 40 dicks in your mouth.

  144. There’s more great music than ever at the moment, it just takes looking past the charts/radio to find it. The electronic music scene (not shitty American EDM) is still very much male dominated and free from sexualisation and degeneracy; there are plenty of female DJ’s and producers with genuine talent who don’t use their bodies to sell albums.

  146. Those who have ever dropped a nut at a quarter til midnight in Juarez, will appreciate Marty Robbins, “El Paso”

  147. Modern country music is truly the most basic bitch, fake as fuck, market shit to rock apes music you can hear. Lower than rap. Dirt roads, cold beer, sweet tea, jeans, big trucks, mama and pappy fucking retard culture….did I cover all the bases? Oh yeah, they try to suck military cock also to show patriotism, they’d have a bbq at my lai with tailgates down. Let’s be honest, it’s music for southern fucks with a 3rd grade schooling level. EDIT forgot the church on Sunday, fried chicken, porch swingin’ faggotry. All the more I love the Pacific NW, Western USA rural people who are more along the lines of self-taught engineers, drive Taliban-esque Toyotas, & listen to metal.

  148. Totally agree, most modern popular music is dogshit. There is some good stuff out there, though, you just have to look for it.

  149. One of the few advantages of living in germany: “Unfortunately this video is not available in your country”
    Every of these “new music” videos is blocked here thanks to GEMA 😛

  150. Well, Metal and derivatives was always my ground at music, and being a musician myself I can say that Metal is still good if you know where to look. I also love classical music. When it comes to modern music, I only listen to extreme Metal, which the singers only use guttural techniques. Some will say that this is just noisy (and a lot of bands really are), but some of the Death Metal/Deathcore bands I listen make the most creative, complex and manly music actually. They are ragged, they don’t fear to criticize anything, they sing about battles of the past and present, about standards and principles, and the music is good for someone who don’t know where to put his anger.

  151. There are tons of good musicians out there that this article doesn’t even touch. Is mainstream pop music samey and bland? yes. But there are plenty of independent musicians out there making music that is imperfect but yet still emotional and not lacking depth, the things Roosh sees a deficiency of in the scene today. The Strokes, LCD Soundsystem, Mac DeMarco, and even Death Grips come to mind. My point is that hope is far from lost if you know where to look. I would concede that listening to the radio is futile because everything is trash, but there is a whole world of music out there that is far from trash if you know where to look.

  152. You absolutely fucking nailed it. Music is degenerate these days. Oh by the way, I fucking hate Luke Bryan.

  153. I’m born 1982 and had my own music to grow up with, namely Hip-Hop,Rap,various Techno and D&B stuff…
    However, I listened to my fathers music at the same time. I’ve noticed pretty early on, that my generations music is dull and interchangeable with the next “Hit”. Does anyone think that, modern music can create, something like Black Sabbath,Bob Seger and the like?
    Well, I’m kinda disappointed since two decades….
    “Still like that old time rock ‘n’ roll
    That kind of music just soothes the soul
    I reminisce about the days of old
    With that old time rock ‘n’ roll”

  154. You already brought it up but I will say it anyways. I fucking hate pop country. I grew up on George Straight, George Jones and Hank. I like Jamey Johnson and some of Toby Kieths older stuff as far as modern country goes. Now we have these fuck tards like Luke Bryan and that twats like Miranda Lambert’s ilk. I don’t even put on the local country station these days. Yes I actually enjoy the old sad songs about a dog, beer and a two timing women and celebrating a hard working man!

  155. Most modern music is crap, especially maintream music. However there are some fine examples who are not, especially in metal:

    Draumar, from Germany.

    Amorphis, from Finland.

    Les Discrets, from France.

    Fejd, from Sweden.

    Gormathon, from Sweden.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uZUxsV-Vms
    Ocotber Falls, from Finland.

    Wolfheart, from Finland.

  156. And WHO runs the music industry??? As the Romans used to say, “Who benefits?”

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