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3 Reasons Why Most Female Writers Are Garbage

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Nothing makes the vein in my forehead rise like being forced to read the gurglings of a female writer. With few exceptions, the vast majority of writing put out by girls these days is worthless. I’d rather wipe my ass with sixty-grit sandpaper than digest the literary vomit that comprises the corpus of the average “mainstream” woman writer.

The atrociousness of contemporary female writing is in part due to the Gawkerfication of the Internet. Much in the same way that the sit-still-and-shut-up style of schooling privileges girls over boys, the click-driven consensus-seeking nature of modern pop writing advantages females—in their navel-gazing and conformity—over men.

The Roosh V Forum even has a colloquial name for these girls: “female typists,” because their “writing” is so formulaic and anodyne that it barely qualifies as such.

Here is why most female writers are horrible, and how they can improve (not that any of them will pay attention).

1. Their sex lets them get a pass for bad writing

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I’ve devised a simple test for determining whether a female writer is worth the telomeres I’m wasting on her: if she were a man writing about the same subject, would I still be reading? For example, would you read an article by a man crying about he’s sick of being shamed for farting in public? Of course not: you’d go “Ewww, what a weirdo!”, close the tab and go back to laughing at Grumpy Cat.

Female typists are allowed to spew so much garbage into our browsers precisely because no one will tell them that their writing sucks. They’ve been told all their lives that the axe wound between their legs makes them shpecial, that their opinions have merit just because of the shape of their loins, and that anyone who criticizes them is a meanie muh-sausage-nist. The end result is that we have an entire class of clickbait princesses who earnestly write about how they should be able to pick their noses in public without grossing out onlookers.

At present, I can count the number of women writers I read on one hand, and I’d still have a couple of fingers to spare. The reason I still read these women—and occasionally pimp their work—is because they’re actually good. They have empathy for other people, live interesting lives, and don’t believe that attention whoring can compensate for weak prose and lame subjects.

2. They won’t shut up about themselves

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Every female typist on the planet thinks she’s the most fascinating subject in the world. The problem is that most girls are incredibly boring. They don’t lead exciting lives, they don’t have interesting opinions, and they don’t pay attention to what’s happening around them. It’s because of this that even “real” female writing rarely advances beyond the level of a diary entry.

For example, several months ago, I started talking to a college girl who became interested in my work. She showed me some samples from her Tumblr page asking for my opinion on her prose. Everything she wrote was a navel-gazing dirge about how badly she wanted to be a writer, about how nervous she was about graduating college, nothing but nonstop bloviating about ME ME ME! This was the response I gave her (personal details modified to protect the innocent):

Stop talking about yourself. You’re a 21-year old from Vermont. You’re not that interesting.

The most important aspect of being a good writer is having something worth writing about. If your own life is not that exciting, then you make it interesting. As a writer, you also have to empathize with people who are not like you, to step outside of your narrow existence and put yourself in others’ shoes. As a species, girls would rather sit in self-imposed bubbles and get high off their own fanny fumes.

3. They don’t take risks

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Female writing is defined by conformity and fear. While it’s not impossible for women to take risks, few of them do; they would rather wallow in what is safe and nonthreatening. The reason why most female typists are so bland is because they prefer to cater to the tastes of the average imbecile rather than take a chance on something different.

For example, the “manosphere” and “red pill” subcultures were created by men who didn’t want to geld themselves so they could fit into our milquetoast culture. Roosh didn’t run around begging Gawker or Playboy to print his work: he published his own books and created Return of Kings, a site that espouses the viewpoints that he believes in.

There are countless bloggers in this part of the Internet that, for better or for worse, decided to be proactive instead of waiting for someone to come along and hand them an opportunity.

Where is the female equivalent of Return of Kings? Where are the women who are blazing a path of independence against the mediocrity of the Crowd? There are a few, but they’re absolutely dwarfed by the legions of female typists who aspire to do nothing more than compile Buzzfeed listicles. Rather than excel on their own merits, they’d rather scrape and grovel at the altar of “real” institutions, with all the literary bootlicking that it entails.

While it’s not impossible for individual women to become good writers, most girls are held down by their inherent deficiencies. While I’m hoping that this post will inspire some girls to improve their skills, I’m not holding my breath. As our dysfunctional world shows, there’s more money in selling lies than truth.

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360 thoughts on “3 Reasons Why Most Female Writers Are Garbage”

  1. Get ready (maybe) for the she-bitches to drop the mighty butthurt social justice hammer on this puppy!
    Oh yeah, and most female writing does suck. Especially the Elite Daily or Buzzfeed caliber American girls who…
    1. travel someplace on their “study abroad” and think they are the first person in the world to see some beautiful town or natural wonder
    2. write articles about some recent guy in their life who was acting “creepy” or “awkward”, when they were clearly neither awkward or creepy.
    3. Some inspirational or pseudo self-help crap about “healing”, “letting go”, or moving forward on their “journey”.
    Guys write about important shit. It’s based on logic, reason, trial-and-error, and cold hard facts, rather than PMS and menstrual blooded emotions about whatever gives them “inspiration”.

    1. If said Buzzfeed level female writer posts a picture on her book where she poses with some goat in Inner Mongolia, that’s the cue for her ‘peers’ to start celebrating her as the next big thing. My..how worldly posing with that lucky anonymous goat….

    2. 1. “Study abroad” in some safe, White, Christian country where everybody in urban areas speaks English now such as Spain, the most cliche of all. I’m sure a whole lot of “studying” occurred at night while interacting with tall, dark guys with “cool” accents, oh yeah.
      2. He’s only “creepy”, “awkward” or a “douchebag” (The Unholy Trinity of a woman’s vocabulary that gets repeated innumerable times throughout the course of each day) if she doesn’t like him enough. If the exact same actions and words come from a carcass that suits her fancy, then game on. Besides, most of these scenarios are self-fulfilling and self-inflicted as is, there’s never any need to have a shred of sympathy!
      3. Oh please. I’ve no doubt this all relates to men. Then have better taste in men. Get to actually know them instead of being easily suckered by some smooth talk or the fact that he’s tall or has trust fund money or perceived social status, date outside of your usual box to see if your chances improve by testing different waters, or just lower your standards to be commensurate to what you’re actually worth or you deserve.
      Most any issues (especially emotional ones or manufactured diseases only they seem to have like “anxiety” or “panic attacks”) in a woman’s life are choices they bring upon themselves. The Hell if I ever feel sorry for them!

      1. Here in Europe, in major university towns, there are guys who make a habit out of trying to score American girls specifically. Some of them aren’t even students – they’re just local guys who go after easy meat.

        1. I bet! Good for them, too. Some of those dumb bitches will go for anything tall and decent-looking that pays attention to them, and if they have a “sexy” accent to boot, easy sale!
          Lots of Daddy issues amongst American girls. They’re easy prey when alone and across the world and “nervous”.

  2. There are a few good female writers, but I dont think there are many from this time (feminism has ruined women today, as we all know),
    One of my favorites is Patricia Highsmith (The talented Mr. Ripley, Strangers on a Train)..all her books are great, to say the least. So women can write, but probably not the type of women we see today. Funny how feminism actually made women far LESS capable.

  3. Ann Coulter is a pretty good writer. She is the only one I can think of.

      1. surely she’s got a ghost writer. Ann “radiation is good for you” Coulter is a complete tard.

      2. IDK, but whoever rights them presents opinions and supports them with facts. She was the only popular writer who was a woman that does that I could think of.

      3. She seems to be able to speak and form arguments on the fly fairly well (whether you like them or not) which are consistent with her writing, so if she doesn’t fully write them she at least has a major hand in them.

    3. Ann Coulter is a frigid witch. She’s a fuckn freak!Nothing but a shill for the neocons. My brother sat next to her on a flight and said she’s as weird in person as she looks in her pictures.

        1. I did like when she said that she is more of a man than any liberal.

  4. In this high-octane internet and social media age, women are obsessed with having jobs which can promote or amplify their online presence. Basically if they can’t be a Hollywood actress, Instagram model / human toilet, or Youtube narcissist baring her skin or peddling beauty products, then gravitating towards writing is pretty much the last resort.
    Notice how most female bloggers and writers are not 8’s or 9’s, because all those preceding things (actress, instagram, youtube, etc) would not work out for them.

    1. They aren’t 8’s or 9’s because the writing stance involves being hunched over a keyboard with a bottle of booze and pills, chainsmoking while smoke swirls over their face causing aging. They have trouble then after hours in this position snapping up to stand erect as their joints pop and they have to stretch to crack a few lady farts. All tensed up they wouldn’t perform well riding a dick or would risk breaking their neck shimmying down a stripper pole. Their physical stamina is compromised.
      My suggestion is to hook a magneto up to an exercycle to power a lightbulb and pedal while you speak into a voice translator mic hooked up to the dash and a cup of rabbit diet to munch on in the cupholder. That way you burn your ass while you brainstorm which can take hours. One of those bikes where the seat and handlebars move foreward and backward while you pedal simulating the body motion of a flopping fish. From a sweaty crotch will come interesting works.

    1. “Rolling Stone magazine failed to follow “basic, even routine
      journalistic practice” in its now-retracted story about a gang rape at
      the University of Virginia, a review by the Columbia Journalism School
      found.”

  6. I had seen the same problem with girl artists which is a shame because art is one of the few things a girl can and did excellent work in painting and sculpture without requiring risk or strength. There are some girls who are exceptional but most are disappointing. I see the same problem with a lot of boy artists too, most lacking manly vigor and adventure in their work.

    1. Like the one that used her menstrual blood splattered on a canvas and called it art. Distasteful.

      1. One art I like was by Yves Klein. He created the Fire Paintings in which he have a model get wet and pressed her body onto a laminated cardboard. Then he burned the water off the surface with a flamethrower, creating a ghostly image is breasts and hips and legs. It was one of the few experimental art that actually work and was quite macho in its vibe.
        http://www.wikiart.org/en/yves-klein/fire-painting-1

  7. I remember reading an article from the people that facilitate the “orange award,” which is essentially an organization to showcase women’s writing. In the article, one of the judges mentioned how exhausting it is when over half of the writings submitted have to deal with rape, cheating significant others and other “woe is me” narratives. So apparently being painfully narrow as far as subject matter is another issue.
    http://www.theguardian.com/books/2010/mar/17/misery-orange-prize-judge-authors

    1. That writing thing is so hard when you’re the “victim” all of the time.
      It’s so oppressive.

  8. Ayn Rand is one of the few writers I can even think of who can write, which is impressive considering she knew hardly any English when she jumped the ship into America from USSR. Some of her phrases were beautiful. Unforturely, her stuff suffered from two problems of her choices. One is overlong speeches running pages and other is a focus on creating an ideal man without any flaw, which make for a dull character. John Galt would be more interesting if we see him struggling with doubts on the road to his own outcome-independence.

    1. At least Ayn Rand had to survive some real hardships to get out of the Soviet Union and into the United States. That made her more interesting than the sheltered Dunham Horrors of the early 21st Century.
      I agree with her failure in portraying an interesting ideal man, BTW. I’ve heard one of Rand’s Kool-Aid drinkers say that she pioneered the depiction of sex in the 20th Century novel, which goes to show Rand cultists’ ignorance of literature. (Uh, hello? Ever hear of Lady Chatterley’s Lover?) And that Rand promoted sex-positivity in these novels, though if you read them carefully, you’ll notice that the protagonists often go without sex for years of their lives. In fact they live almost like sexually abstinent christians, while disavowing belief in god as irrational.
      For example, in Atlas Shrugged, Dagny Taggart’s first lover, Francisco d’Anconia, became apparently permanently celibate after his youthful sexual relationship with her. Yet, ironically, d’Anconia created the illusion that he led a Roosh-like existence as a playboy.
      And then look at the implied adult virginity of his college buddy and Rand’s fantasy of the ideal man, John Galt. Rand’s depiction implies that Galt had no sexual experience until well into his 30’s. Galt abandons a promising career as an engineer and inventor so that he can take a loser job on Dagny’s railroad as a day laborer because he has a crush on Dagny and he wants to stalk her and sabotage her business deals. He sounds like an UNSUB character on a episode of Criminal Minds.
      Then notice the really absurd passage in the novel when Dagny crashes her plane in the hidden valley. Galt handles this unexpected, face to face meeting with his secret crush with mastery and confidence, despite his adult virginity. A 30-something male virgin could not do anything of the sort in a situation like this in real life. The mastery and confidence have to come from experiences in getting into sexual relationships with women through dating, not from the study of philosophy.
      But then Rand wrote her novels more as chick fantasies than as guides to men’s sexuality, so this deficiency in understanding men makes sense.

      1. I think learning the gist of Atlas Shrugged and John Galt is enough. Maybe just read his “Fuck You” broadcast to the public and you got it.
        I can’t imagine forcing myself to read that humungous book.

      2. At the time she wrote, a man would have been able to handle a woman with “PUA” levels of indifference despite being a virgin. The men of the 40’s were men and were raised by strong, competent fathers and learned by example from their fathers. Take her view of that interaction in the time frame it was written and it makes more sense I think.
        D’anconnia is the typical female fantasy of the Alpha male who cannot deal with other women once he finds “the one”. She was a female at the end of the day, you have to expect that type of thing to creep in, even with her.
        Otherwise, interesting critique of Rand.

    2. The Fountainhead had a big impact on me when I was 19 or so, but I wouldn’t call Ayn Rand a good writer.
      Her philosophy takes a good concept to absurd extremes that actually undermine real individualistic badass types, IMO.

        1. Personally, I thought We The Living and Anthem were her two best works. And yes I read Atlas Shrugged and The Fountainhead

        2. Anthem is a solid work. Well written, well done, expresses her philosophy with an exacting economy of words that doesn’t leave you bored or with glazed over eyes, and it’s a good story to boot.

      2. I prefer Foundationhead. She knew how to write but her choices keep getting in her way.

    3. Reading Atlas Shrugged, and I am sort of mixed toward it.
      Yes, it’s a libertarian book and I like much of it. And Ayn Rand is a good writer (not great). However, I do take issue with her depiction of individualism as outright egotism and selfishness. I am no fan of the PC, left-wing “altruism” at all, but the selfishness expressed by the main characters is just so off-putting in a way. If anything, I think Atlas Shrugged might have been part and parcel of the fostering of a somewhat distorted perspective on individualism.
      Likewise, I sometimes find her writing just dull and flat. I understand that some might attribute Rand’s style to the 19th century French and Russian authors she enjoyed reading. However, though I haven’t read many of these authors (like Hugo and Dostoevsky) yet, I bet they were far better authors and storytellers than Rand was, and their prose may very well be livelier and greater than her own prose.

      1. Rand would have easily copped to Hugo being a much better writer. She worshiped the man. And rightly so from a literary perspective.

      2. You are right that Ayn wrote in the Russian style. As I stated before, she can write but her choices attends to get in her own way. In my opinion, the best writers tends to write indirectly, letting the readers make up their minds along the way. Think of The Lord of the Rings. There were a lot of themes in it that emerge over time. Speeches have their place but should be used in a spare manner. Every word should carry the weight like a brick in a bridge. Her preachiness (understandable in the age of popular fad for big government) was a reaction born out of a passionate frustration.

  9. Fantastic article.
    I concur, most women are indeed, garbage writers. I can’t even begin to tell you the number of stories where I see so many women in coffee shops, sitting with their notepads, thinking they are going to be the next JK Rowling, that it makes me look at them with great disgust. These authors live with delusions of grandeur, that the writing profession, has turned itself into a joke.
    I mean look at the standard of writing being released by today’s “modern” and “empowered” women. From “Eat, Pray, Love” to “Wild”, all of these books revolve around the narcissistic lives of these authors, who think in their minds, that they are doing the female race a great public service, talking about their so called “hard” lives.
    And let’s not forget the other realm of ridiculous kind of, do I dare say, “literature” that is consumed like candy by the growing population of the stupid idiotic teenage generation, such as “Twilight” and “Fifty Shades of Grey.”
    The whole world of literature and writing, has been erroding in standards and is certainly contributes towards the cultural decline and decay of our society. Today’s books no longer encompass the important values which people once held dearly close to their hearts, but revolve around the disgusting and degenerate lifestyles which today’s sub par women love to emulate and replicate.
    Not to mention the fact that most of these horrendous books are now being turned into motion pictures for the braindead and degenerate population. If you look back through time, you will find that most of the greatest books were written by men. So what does this go to show you? Well, unlike women, we men hold a standard which is of higher value and morals, where men try to improve their lives and beliefs by reading the great works of great men. But whereas with women, it seems to be the exact opposite, which in itself, goes to show you that today’ modern women are going down a downward spiral and are simply a lost cause.

    2. My sister Read fifty shades of Grey and she said it was one of the most Basic, Bland styles of writing she’d read.I agree with Forney , all the Female stories revolve around one thing, women’s personal fantasy’s, wether it’s the average Female getting insane amounts of attention from Men who can’t exist without her like in 50 shades or Outlander, Twilight ,or Complaining to there bloggers (Because everyone is so interested in her personal problems). It all boils down to Catering to women/women’s fantasies. Interesting though how Feminism has tried so hard to paint the picture of woman being something more than a “Yes dear” house wife, or that women are strong and independent and don’t rely on any Man, but the House wife/ being a possession to a Man is some of the most popular writing’s today amongst female audiences, Female Literature can be summed up with these categories ,Romance, an Unlikely Romance ( average girl gets billionaire) ,Narcissistic complaining,And Vagina literature (Though imagine if guys wrote about the power of the penis in the same ways Feminist’s write about the power of the Vagina, He’d be a creep/ rapist, Though I wouldn’t want to see Penis Literature, I think it says something of society that Vagina Literature is not considered Low, crude, Creepish writing and it’s beyond me how anyone takes it seriously as a form of literature).

      1. Eat, Pray, Love…is really Eat, Pray, Fuck. Women know this fact but the rationalization hamster starts up (of why fuck sounds bad for the title..so it’s “Love”). A joke, really, because the woman in that story “had everything” but was still unhappy? Go fucking figure.
        Let a man come out with a book empowering a man to do these things and watch the fireworks fly from feminists and SJWs. How dare a man be “empowered”, happy and go overseas looking for love (probably looking for an under aged girl to wait on him).
        It’s too fucking laughable, at times, the double standard today (and these women don’t even see it – or ignore it).

        1. It’s really “Eat, Pray, Slut”. We’ve seen a newer version of this called “The Wild Oats Project” where Robin Rinaldi took a year off from her marriage to sleep with strangers, and then got upset when her husband (who, unsurprisingly, was against is wife going “Looking for Mr. Goodbar”) got himself a younger girlfriend. “Eat, Pray, Replaced”.
          http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/book-party/wp/2015/03/12/she-took-a-year-off-from-her-marriage-to-sleep-with-strangers-what-could-go-wrong/

        2. Yep. It’s more justified riding of the cock carousel. Men do this kind of shit and their shamed by SJWs. Women pull this stunt and it’s “female empowerment”.
          You have to love how stupid they look when they’re trying to scold someone else.

        4. Yeah judging By the Commercial of Eat Pray Love, it looks like she runs from her problems by Fucking them away with Random European Men, Funny thing though is that the Feminist’s haven’t caught on to the Unsaid things Men automatically know about women of these types, and it’s usually that a divorced woman is someone else’s old problem and she should just be Used as a Hole and nothing more,(Personally My religious Views keep me from Messing with a divorced woman) didn’t see the movie, but in the real world the ending would be “But I thought You Loved Me!”,says Julia Roberts character as the Man who knew better than to Pick up somebody else’s Divorced Problem walks away.

        5. I want to take a patch on this damn book from the male side. It’ll be a book about a velociraptor teaching his mate to hunt: “Eat Prey, Love.”

        6. There are plenty of others movies that follow this same story line. Poor woman needs to find her “happiness” in her life so she goes international with the cock carousel. You won’t hear any critics from the mainstream media (on women) but let men do it and it’s questionable “sex trafficking”.
          It must be nice to be the “empowered” woman today (not entitled, but empowered). Men are the only entitled ones.
          That’s some high grade delusional shit right there.

        7. Empowered is a word that I find Peculiar Feminist’s Have chosen to describe Modern woman. To Empower is to give power to, give confidence to , in short, it’s to give where before was lacking, so essentially saying woman are Empowered is saying that on there own and without Constant External Praise or External forces giving her Authority, woman cannot independently function without External Empowerment, which is true, women on there own are unconfident, insecure, and don’t have a commanding presence of authority.Men on the other hand Men Don’t need Empowerment because Men were given abilities by God that women don’t have, in fact if it wasn’t for this whole SJW up is down and down is up culture we now live in, things would be fine , however Men are being attacked at an unbelievable level but still Men can go on about their Lives with Confidence, Imagine if women were being attacked by the Mainstream Media and in the entertainment industry and by Governing forces as Much as Men are being attacked, with their Fragile Nature women probably wouldn’t even be able to leave the House if facing the same Attacks That Modern Man is facing.

        8. It’s always this bullshit (the double standard) that has me shaking my head. Men are supposed to be this way but women need to be “empowered”. So, I ask the ladies “where is the equality?”. Nothing, silence..no real answer at all. It’s turned itself on it’s head (and they know it).
          Women wanted equality, they got it and now they are the ones having to “man up”…but they are finding that it’s no picnic. Thus, we have the double standard in society (with many delusional women and their nonsense).

        9. Though they will never truly be able to Man up, mentally,physically and the Limitations God Placed on woman will keep her always a woman, one of the greatest double standards i’ve seen is the militaries integration process of trying to get women into Front line combat/Spec ops, so women don’t have to meet the full standards and only have to pass at the lowered standard, while Men have to pass at the current High standard for the same Job? How are the SJW’s not screaming that is Sexist to Men? Granted i’d want the Military to keep the standards the way they have always been and throw out this whole female Integration nonsense.Also if this crap gets forced through and the Spec ops community gets forced to have women on the teams, the woman will be taking jobs away from Men that are far more capable than they because of PC affirmative action BS. Have you ever seen a woman Freeze up when she has a mental breakdown because she is scared? There is no functionality in that state, i’m sure it will work out great once the first bullet flies over her head and her Male team mates ask for cover yet she does nothing because she is gripped with fear.

        10. But women love that shit.
          Eat – its ok to eat yourself silly. Men should still love and worship you for the precious snowflake you are.
          Pray – Don’t take responsibility for your actions, its god’s fault.
          Love – Fuck yourself silly. Ride every cock in every third-world toilet you find yourself in. Get gangbanged by drunk tourists after going 3 hours of jagerbombs. You can always romanticize it as “finding yourself”. Or, if you are truly delusional, you can call it ‘love’.

        11. pray? where, in that book, in any book, in any walk of life, in any life period, do women pray? if wishing for more free shit is praying, chalk up yet another word, forged for purpose, now purposeless dust.
          “eat, ???, slut”
          “eat, ???, slut”
          “eat, ???, slut”
          how, in their heads, with all the voluminous venus vomit to a scale never before witnessed in the history of man, is there anything else?
          no. they liberated themselves from reality, but there is nothing else but reality, so now nothing exists in their heads. and at the rate they’re going, i dare say it’ll be interesting to see just how far internally deranged and externally deformed they can get before it’s just “eat, ???, eat, ???, eat, ???, eat, ???, eat.”

        12. That’s the thing. There is no double standard. The double standard concept is yet another feminist construct. There is men’s standard, and women’s standard. The fact they try digging into our standards and changing them to their liking is WHY this whole concept arose.
          They can have their standard of behavior, but beware, so will we and they might not like it. So be it. When nuns are courted like whores, we know we’ve reached the tipping point. Women destroy shit, men build everything. Separate yourself enough from women to let them destroy themselves.
          After 1000 “I told you so’s,” and they come whimpering back to men, both during individual incidences, and as the aggregate herd.. don’t be afraid to rub their noses in it, and be certain they DIDN’T learn a damn thing from it.

        14. Agree. We do nothing but lower the standards (and strength) of our military, fire depts, etc..when we lower the standards (tests) just to include women. Many men who could not pass the rigorous tests did not make it by we are letting women get in with a lesser passing “grade”.
          I’d rather have a stronger military (I don’t care how everyone feels). These are not the areas where we want to “feel good” because everyone was included (everyone gets a trophy mentality).

        16. Right. Women want equality (selective equality). They want to decided when and where it’s needed (but not all of the time). They didn’t realize that with equality comes accountability and responsibility….now the joke is on them.
          Women need to “man up”……men have been doing it for a long time. Welcome to equality.

        17. Gold! Especially if you read that with an Australian accent.

        19. Exactly. Could you imagine if a man wrote that book about male sexual
          desire instead? There would be a complete uproar, but it’s fine for
          women to indulge in their own juvenile fantasies of alphadom.

        20. Well this really isnt the place to bother arguing But I will add, since Ive been here all week already.
          Yes Eat Pray Love is an example of feminine lameness from your pov. Ive not read the book but I saw the film, but its clear you haven’t. Heres what it means.
          Eat: Stop giving a shit about what society says you should be or worrying about fitting into your jeans. Savour every moment, enjoy the italian pizza, and buy bigger jeans.
          Pray: Stop giving a shit about what society says you should do, opt out, go on retreat, live a simple life as part of a community and meditate in silence until your yappy brain shuts up, then youll know what you want.
          Love: Stop giving a shit about what society says you should do, or having to be married or make babies to be a whole person. Dont be bitter and hate. Love yourself, love life, see things to love in everything.
          Bonus extra: after doing these things some nice hot Brazilliano will notice youre not like the slutty girls and want to sail you home on his boat. Extremely cheezy ending, but true story.

        21. Lol. But you dont want women who manned up. You want weak creatures who want you to dominate them, you want them to stay at home and know their place. Yet at the same time you want them to be in bars slutting it up for free, and in nice places in pretty dresses waiting for you to rescue them so they can be greatful to you and bring up babies.
          You want to tell them they are attention whores, that they are stupid bitches, that they are generally inadequate.
          And now you claim you want them to be like men? No wonder the poor young things are so stupid and confused. Have you decided what it is yet that is manly beyond not acting like a girl?
          Please make sure when you’ve figured out your manifesto and ironed out these wrinkles that you publish it publicly for all the women to follow. Then everyone will know their place and actually be able to achieve that and you might get what you want, once you know what that is.

        22. I must have slept through the part where she went fucking around. But since you only saw the commercial Ill take your word for it that you totally know what you’re talking about.
          Im not recommending you watch the film, youll hate it, its only got the one shag in it, 2 old divorced people get it on at the end.

        23. Jezz this is the best comedy Ive had in a while, you guys are hilarious. Write your book, use the uproar for publicity, get rich off it and stop complaining.
          Those juvenie fantasies are for BORED WIVES. Maybe that is a clue to their lack of maturity, no intellectual stimulation. Those are the only ones thinking 50 shades was a good read. I read a sample and thought it was derviative shite, by idiots for idiots. Man porn doesn’t exactly have intelligent plot lines either.
          Nor does this thread have much evidence of expert male writing. Mostly weak ass bitch complaining and irrational arguments. It all sounds like butt-hurt to me.
          Driver: you too can make a change, hire some mercenaries, create your own fricking all man army. Train them yourself, rent them out to the millitary. Since they will be great and efficient you wont have to replace so many of them and theyll command an excellent rate as contractors. What is stopping you do this?

        24. ‘Women destoy things, men build everything’
          Did some little girl come along and kick over your sandcastle recently?
          In reality, people who recieve a lot of hate and have hurt fellings become haters and destroy things. I see a lot of hate here. But what are you building?

        25. 1. “enjoy the italian pizza, and buy bigger jeans.” Translation: let yourself go to hell and swell up like Stephen Collins shopping at Kids r’ Us.
          2. “some nice hot Brazilliano will notice youre not like the slutty girls and want to sail you home on his boat” Translation:date some poor bastard from a 3rd-world country and romanticize the process because he’s willing to listen to your baboon-on-a-caffeine binge-like chattering like an emotional tampon, but then be a hypocrite and castigate men who date women from other countries and label them as “sex trafficers,” or “predators.”
          Riiiiiiiight.

        26. Yawn, I don’t suppose you want to respond to the ‘Im a rational man’ argument and explain how you logically deduced that interpretation.
          I should think if you were going to go for a cynical interpretation youd suggest something like ‘tell yourself the foreign man genuinely likes you and isnt using you for a european visa and then write a cheesy book about it to convince yourself its true’
          You just gotta stretch it to the point of stupidity putting holes in your own argument of superior intelligence. Is there even any stats Brazilians being sex trafficers and predators?
          Your post is a pointless brain fart.

        27. Wow, not only can women not write, but judging by that last comment, apparently they don’t have the whole “reading comprehension” thing locked down, either. No wonder they like Hallmark and Harlequin Romance so much.
          To wit (or lack thereof on your part), let me explain in as pedantic a way as I can–you know, the intellectual equivalent of cutting my intellectual feast into bite-sized morsels your little brain can masticate–to make my points clear to your double-digit IQ.
          First, I don’t need your advice for being cynical; I have plenty of experience with that already. Next, if you had any reading comprehension, you’d see that I wasn’t accusing Brazilians of being sex criminals, dolt. I was saying that you hysterical harpies accuse us–the evil, white Westerners–of being predators when we engage in behavior with the same age dynamic as you women do when you’re going out to “find” yourselves, a process that apparently involves inhaling wieners like you’re in a hot dog eating contest.
          If anyone has broken intellectual wind, it is you, who could blow down a house with it.

        28. Duh, noone though you were acusing brazilians of anything, and it was quite clear you were implying somewhere women are accusing someone of being predators and sex trafficers. I just dont see how it links to the previously mentioned stuff.
          I see from your explaination that it does not.
          Im sorry that some hysterical harpy has had cause to accuse you of being a sex trafficer but that is a particularly strong accusation, under what circumstances would you shagging about in foreign lands be confused with attempts to abduct and sell women?
          Now I keep hearing how women overreact and jump to conclusions and say irrational things, but it strikes me youve flown right off the handle here.
          Firstly I have to refer back to your accusation about my reading comprehension and ask you to re read my comment about taking things to such extremes that you sound like an idiot.
          Secondly, I dont know these hysterical harpies you mention, Ive not been accusing anyone of trafficing or predatoring. But thankyou for my second opportunity of the day to use the word penisterical as a description of your reaction.
          Thirdly I have never inhaled weiners like it was a hot dog contest, nor were any of my travels described by me as ‘finding myself’ since I know where I am, and I really am not the slutty traveller type.
          Its really inappropriate of you to base your penisteria on such wild assumptions and exaggerations and I am not responsible or accountable for your unhappy experiences with women, which sounds to me like they consist mostly of jealousy at not getting your weiner inhaled by anyone, else youd be glad of the idea of women being slutty and freely available.
          Oh and the IQ, definitely bigger than yours. Another rediculous assumption of yours designed to make me look worse than you, its amazing just how bad you need to make other people look.
          Your intellectual wind competition seems to have resulted in a spot of follow through for you.

        29. STFU repulsive slob. Your crotch smells so wrank, your land whale name projects it.

        30. This is surely a joke, right? “Is there even any stats Brazilians being sex trafficers and predators?” Yet, in YOUR previous post (you’re so ashamed of it, you’ve blocked it from your memory, right? I don’t blame you), you wrote that. By using the phrase, “is there even,” (I assume you meant “are,” but that’s another literacy problem into which we won’t delve) YOU are implying that such an accusation was made. By writing, “Duh, noone though you were acusing brazilians of anything,” you are committing two errors: 1. You presume that you are somehow a spokesperson for a group, as if anyone would follow you; and 2. you show your own imbecility through your inability to comprehend the ramifications of your own writing. You ought to apply to Rolling Stone.
          Another example of your stupidity (I can’t catalog them all–there are only so many hours in the day) comes from the statement, ” jealousy at not getting your weiner inhaled by anyone, else youd be
          glad of the idea of women being slutty and freely available.” No, I don’t relish the idea of my precious wiggle wand being anywhere in the vicinity of a pussy with more miles on it than a 1976 Grand Marquis.
          I will admit that one part of your mentally diseased rantings did give me a giggle–and by “giggle,” I mean, “let’s laugh at the Special Kids’ play so that they feel better about themselves: you wrote, “But thankyou for my second opportunity of the day to use the word penisterical . . ” Did you pick that up in your Wymyn’s Studies class, the kind in which you studied “herstory” because your instructor (the one in the Birkenstocks who looked like Ed Asner in drag) informed you that “history” was oppressive with its gender bias (even though the word doesn’t come from “his story,” but rather the Greek “historia,” meaning “inquiry”)? Since I really doubt you’ve received the benefits of a classical education, someone must have told you that hysteria comes from the Greek hystera, meaning uterus and that hysteria was once associated only with women’s flighty emotional states. So you thought you’d show an evil, oppressive straight guy how clever you are by using penisterical instead of hysterical to describe my supposedly overly wrought emotional state. Or, did you think that up while giving your gynecologist a knob shine to pay your bill?

        31. Ah, I see you’re building more hate, and a world of true equality where women have no choice but laugh at you for being so emotional. I suppose thats one way, lets _all_ act like hysterical whiney bitches.
          Now before I launch into attack on your most stupidest of angry childish replies, it occurs to me that maybe I shoud be kind to you because you are only 14. Or do you have psyciatric difficulties that I should take into account?
          Or is it the smell of my crotch that is causing you to be so aggresive? Aha, that’s it isn’t it, you can smell blood and you literally cannot control yourself. You sad sad little psycho.

        32. You brought up sex trafficers not me. You did. Now you can go off on one about how stupid you think I am or how I cant read, but you brought it up and I said I didnt see how that anything to do with the topic.
          You brought up the weiner inhaling too. Neither I nor the book under discussion has any mention of any such thing. That all comes from you. If youre not interested in it, why bring it up?
          The rest is you having a hissy fit and yet more utterly incorrect ideas about who I am. You boys are funny, I’m sorry for not realising you are emotional 14 year olds, and If I’m wrong about that, then you should realise thats how you are acting.
          Edit: Thanks for the terribly innacurate definition of hysteria, its funny you think I wouldnt know or that your information adds value, the version I had was ‘when a womans uterus rises into her brain and affects her thinking’. This was the original scientific definition by a man back when their medical knowledge was obviously severely lacking. But in the interests of equality and considering an arrogant persons laziness in projecting his own inadeqacies onto ‘the weaker sex’ , can you think of what in a man, literally rises and affects his thinking? Because its not like you dont have your own intense emotional states of your own now is it?
          Now if you dont like this version of equality you can consider dropping the hysterical act and behave more like a mature adult and set us weaklings a good example to follow.
          Also, to minimise all of this rediculous hyperbole, I did not call you evil, I did not call you oppressive and I certainly made no assumptions regarding your heterosexuality.

        33. Women don’t read intellectual novels. Most of Pynchon/Roth/DeLillo’s fans are men.
          I have thought about trying to make money off women’s stupidity though. Thanks for reminding me. It’s time to get to work 😉

        34. Double Yawn.
          I will leave this site when I hear one, just ONE statement about women that is plausibly true.
          How can it be true that women Dont read intellectual books and only Most of DeLillo’s fans are men.
          One statement does not prove the other. Or else you just proved those authors are not intellectual because women read them too.
          Another man proves men do not think any more rationally than they claim women do.
          Every unnecessary sexist remark pooling all women into some category of stupid without acknowledging your own stupidity is forcing yourself into some ever narrowing standard of superiority you cannot possibly achieve.
          Did your red pill not atempt to redefine a standard of manliness? Havent you figured it out yet? The more you project your own weaknesses onto women, the more limited your options are.

        35. Those authors are regarded as the most ‘intelligent’ authors writing in the English language today. Most of their fans are men. That is just a fact. Women are more likely to read detective novels, murder mysteries and other genre fare.
          I never said all women were stupid. What I said was that women don’t read intellectual books, which is true as a generalisation.

        36. If it weren’t for slippery slope, ad hominem and straw man, you’d have no means of argumentation.
          Your pathetic attempts at marshaling a response with your limited intellect has begun to bore me.
          I’ll no longer respond to your ignorant blatherings; you have nothing to offer. Go back to your sad, pedantic life.

        37. If it weren’t for your slippery slope, straw woman and ad hominem, your comments would have been empty space. Dont pretend this was ever an intellectual argument angry boy, you failed to intimidate me with your senseless crap. Your last comment is the noise muttered by a loser as he walks away in a sulk.
          Anyone else, want to have a go at the girl?

        39. I’ve experienced both sides of same problematic coin in the last year. Divorcees who as you stated, really are their own black hole of problems, thus why they’re divorced. And late 20s early 30s women with no kids, never been married, but had 1-3 LTRs that went south (the unwed version of a divorce I suppose).
          At any rate, most have the same underlying attitude which they try their best to hide until after you’ve been fucking them a little while, and that is:”I’m a strong independent woman, I don’t need a man telling me what to do or how to act, or wondering where I’m at or what I’m doing, or to have any expectation of me. I don’t live up to anyone else’s standards but mine.” And that is exactly why they get pumped and dumped by more experienced men left n right.

        40. How is a 130lb woman going to carry a wounded 250 lb marine off the battlefield? THAT is how dysfunctional the military is allowing itself to become. Scary. And when a 200+ lb male marine gets shot in the back and dies carrying TWO froze up females bleeding off the battlefield, who resurrects his wasted life?

        42. Why would I be a school teacher? Are you just comparing me to the only women you have ever had any contact with?

        43. Stop being a whiny, hypocritical cunt and have some standards for fucks sake. Just because ill be the guy to fuck you in the benigans bathroom doesn’t mean you have any value. I certainly would never talk to you afterwards.

        44. This mirror bitching is insane. You think you can weigh in by summarising what i just said and saying it back to me?
          BTW I dont fuck people in bathrooms but if I did, Im certain you woulnt get a go on me.
          This is step one on your road to self improvement, saddo, not all people are the same, when you are old enough to hang out in bars you will realise this.

        46. Not all of us I can’t for the love of understand why in the hell my mom would by 50 shades of gray after I sent her no less than six articles showing how-brain dying-needs to be scrubbed with bleach bad it is.
          Maybe next time I’ll say how wonderful a book is and she’ll run away from it?
          lol. This is why I stick with Stephen K. And Annie R. most else out there right now is painful.
          Anyways, I came in here from Google yrying to ftind articles on improving my dialogue if anyone knows of any let me know thank you kindly.

        47. Men already have the power why would you need to be empowered?
          Your rationale has a huge hole in it.
          Carry on.

      2. The reason is simple: classics have been designated to high school teachers (if them) and have become our dark books. We’re probably getting dumber as a species as words are clearly not being used because they are “too big”.

      4. All “grocery store literature” as I call it fucking blows. (My terminology derives from shitty books like 50 Shades being hawked to housewives on grocery store shelves by the checkout counter)… I get paid to write for a well known site, it’s funny as the reader base has declined, I get to shovel out crap and get paid. Poon Pass y’all. Being a sell out is amazing. I’m trying to write a bs novel for the 30 something crowd just for shits and giggles, it’s all so formulaic a fucking dog could do it: chubby, single, 30 something in New York City searches for love, has some endearing problem (shopping addiction, donut addiction) meets some perfect man way out of her league, has some hijinks, ta-da happily ever after. Fucking god.

      5. There is a reason why women write good children’s books…. they are on roughly the same emotional level.
        Some decent female typists have written well. Harper Lee, Mary Shelley, Ruth Park…etc. But, like achievements in science, they are far outshone by men.

    3. Can you imagine the ridicule that a man would receive if he authored most of the books written by women? Twilight and 50 Shades are prime examples.

    4. JK Rowling was also a terrible writer.
      She just wrote a bunch of children’s books that became a meme and sold a lot. After Harry Potter her books were flops and were heavily criticized.

    5. If you did not happen to read
      Sex and Character
      by Otto Weininger
      http://www.amazon.com/Sex-Character-Investigation-Fundamental-Principles/dp/0253344719
      http://www.theabsolute.net/ottow/sexcharh.html
      Otto Weininger (3/3/1880–10/4/1903) was an Austrian philosopher. In 1903, he published the book Geschlecht und Charakter (Sex & Character) which gained popularity after his suicide, aged 23. The book is generally viewed as misogynistic & antisemitic in academic circles; however, it continues to be held up as a great work of lasting genius & spiritual wisdom by others like Ludwig Wittgenstein.

      1. The condition of sexual excitement is the supreme moment of a woman’s life. The woman is devoted wholly to sexual matters, that is to say, to the spheres of begetting and of reproduction. Her relations to her husband and children complete her life, whereas the male is something more than sexual. In this respect, rather than in the relative strength of the sexual impulses, there is a real difference between the sexes. It is important to distinguish between the intensity with which sexual matters are pursued and the proportion of the total activities of life that are devoted to them and to their accessory cares. The greater absorption of the human female by the sphere of sexual activities is the most significant difference between the sexes.
        The female, moreover, is completely occupied and content with sexual matters, whilst men are interested in much else, in war and sport, in social affairs and feasting, in philosophy and science, in business and politics, in religion and art. I do not mean to imply that this difference has always existed, as I do not think that important. As in the case of the Jewish question, it may be said that the Jews have their present character because it has been forced upon them, and that at one time they were different. It is now impossible to prove this, and we may leave it to those who believe in the modification by the environment to accept it. The historical evidence is equivocal on the point. In the question of women, we have to take people as they exist today. If, however, we happen to come on attributes that could not possibly have been grafted on them from without, we may believe that such have always been with them. Of contemporary women at least one thing is certain. Apart from an exception to be noted in chap. xii, it is certain that when the female occupies herself with matters outside the interests of sex, it is for the man that she loves or by whom she wishes to be loved. She takes no real interest in things themselves. It may happen that a real female learns Latin; if so, it is for some such purpose as to help her son who is at school. Desire for a subject and ability for it, interest in it, and the facility for acquiring it, are usually proportional. He who has slight muscles has no desire to wield an axe; those without the faculty for mathematics do not desire to study that subject. Talent seems to be rare and feeble in the real female (although possibly it is merely that the dominant sexuality prevents its development), with the result that woman has no power of forming the combinations which, although they do not actually make the individuality, certainly shape it.

      2. A popular idea is not necessarily a correct idea. If everyone likes what it says and follows it, only time will tell whether it has value.
        Its a book written by a well educated man all about sex and what women want. By men, for men that tells the money holders and book buyers of the day that they are superior, of course its heralded as genuis.
        The quote below about contemporary womans intetest in matters outside of sex is not true of anyone other than people who have dedicated their time to wifery and motherhood. It is not an inherent property of the female mind, it is a result of adaptation to a particular role, this was decided by men, and was particulatly influential at the contemporary time of _over 100 years ago_. and it was not true in much older civilisations.
        So stop complaining or trying to prove women are thicker, you made it that way so it a done deed. The fact that it remains debatable in your minds is acknowledgement of the variation available in the human species which will never comfortably conform to your desires to a satisfactory degree.
        There are a *lot* of crap writers out there men as well as women. If you want to throw in some distribution of statistics that match the frequency of crap females to tokenism go ahead. But the internet means everyone gets a go and theres no accounting for the tastes of the mindless public.
        Is the quality of writing, balanced journalism or fact checking on this site meant to be an example of something better or are you _all_ free to have your own blog and see that the number of followers is more about agreement with the content than intellectual approval of their literary prowess.

        1. What is fascinating to me is that book was written 100+ years ago by 21 years old man and I still find it relevant and true.
          Yes I do and I will just replace “sex” from above to ” things directly related to the personal life” , which again is centered around romance and sex at least at younger age.
          Not being able to take interest in anything outside of the scope mentioned above and therefore have “bigger picture” of world around them simply disqualifies them to be good writers or film makers or anything that requires knowledge and understanding of the world, things and relations it is made of .
          To be honest someone will really need to convince me to read a book or see film made by women.
          On the other hand if I watch movie and suddenly there is “by nothing provoked” passionate or bizarre sex scene , that does not drive story anywhere , nor helps at all to tell anything or develop the characters , I know that is either scenario written by women or based on book by women. (Happened many times and I was always right , always 100%)
          Many people here ask the question: When is the last time you had meaningful inspiring intellectual conversation with a women ?
          I personally do not remember but I am not surprised by that fact , I do not even complain or seek for one , just that the roots of the explanation why is that happening are the same and in this book from 1903.

        2. When was the last time I was permitted to have a meaningful and intellectual conversation with a man? What Im getting on this site is “shut the fuck up bitch”
          How do you expect women to have meaningful conversations when you mostly dont *want* to have them.
          Like I said, it might be true for those who are focussing on homemaking. The human brain has the potential for all things. The more testosterone there is during growth, the more certain pathways regarding nurturing shutdown, the more pathways about hunting are activated.
          The more you succeed through aggression the more dopamine you get in this T circuit. Women have plenty enough to be smart, but they also have, due to a need to find alternate routes to success, a greater use for the other reward circuits fuelled by a different hormone we all have.
          All paths still exist in all minds if they get used, some are excercised based on what society allows, what you are quoting may be statistically a default, lets say 60-40 but the rest is reinforced only by a mass of opinion.
          Its not about not being able to take an interest in outside things its about not being allowed to.
          What women *are* is a result of adapting to available options, which 100 years ago was minimal. What they can be, is many many things. I *could* be an excellet footballer if I wasnt repeatedly told by 6 year old boys that girls cant play football. If I thought for a second they meant not able to, Id have proved them wrong, since it was clearly meant as not welcome to, I found other interests, ones more suitable to doing without the need of other people’s permission.
          as a result I am quite smart in STEM work, and do a good job which I dont enjoy as much as I ought because most of my conversations in my mans job are office versions of ‘shut the fuck up bitch’. This is the _only_ reason that it has become partly true that women are not as good as men in my job is because the angry young competitive lads spend more time sabotaging competition and I choose to remain peacefully mediocre at work, but you should see some of the shit they churn out in their arrogance.
          If you *want* to have an intelligent conversation with a woman, you only need to consider that she is out of practice. But not one of you insulters on this site has asked me what my skills or interests are before treating me like a stupid bitch bimbo feminist. So you really cant complain about its absence, when that is your preference. You get what you look for.
          Re films with cheesy shit in there. All I am saying is not all women are idiots, also men can be idiots. I have to assume the films you refer to are the crappy ones with flowing gowns and breezy curtains, because you give no examples of your 100% hit rate. But are you seriously telling me that there are no examples of pointless illiterate films with meaningless shag scenes that dont advance the plot which are written by men?
          Where is the intelligence and balance in your argument?

        3. Exactly opposite :
          -Majority of the films and books are the garbage (and most are made by man)
          – Majority of the man (and especially now days) are not the ones you can have intelligent intellectual discussion with , even more, a lot of “douches and bros” , stupid and/or uneducated or simply miles away from it (literally as well in their little suburbs)
          -But , all films I adore are made by man , all books I like are written by man , the minority I am able to have intelligent intellectual is made exclusively of man

        4. Thats all perfectly fine, that being your personal preferences.
          Lends a little weight to the idea that women are capable, but not to your tastes. Not so much to the original proposal that they are not capable or interested in doing good work.
          Sounds like the problem is someone preferring coffee over tea and saying all tea is awful. This happens a lot. I like both, and there’s bad versions of both. You dont get so many tea drinkers being elitist though, or hyped up over their addiction 😉

    6. And just look at the self indulgent its all about me crap those Twilight books and films normalised to teenage girls…although a great insight into the inexperienced female mind for equally young men…the way to her heart is to be an Edward or a Jacob blah blah.

    8. I would add that female writers have always been awful. There are just more of them now.
      Think about it. Can you name one single female writer from ancient Greece or Rome?

      1. Tittius? Vaginius?
        Grasping at straws here.

    9. Reread this comment replacing ‘women’ with ‘people’ and replacing ‘men’ with ‘mature adults’ and you almost have a well written comment on the problems with media and society.

    10. I hated twilight so many errors in it lets not even start on how flat the main character was. Please don’t label women, not all of us are like as you say. Some of us actually work hard and studdy.
      I grew up reading Stephen King books, Annie Rice Robert A. Helen and more. This generation is under read imop.

    11. If you don’t think that is MOST writers you are fooling yourselves.
      Most don’t make it.
      Most aren’t good enough.
      Sex doesn’t matter.
      Failed scripts and books written by men go in and out the door every day, rejected. They aren’t good enough.
      Truly great writers/artists come along, but not very often.
      Get a grip.

    1. ……lies supported by the publication. They printed the retraction but added that no one would be terminated nor would there be any changes in their editorial policy. I guess that means that they’ll have no problem with future fabrications if they can slip them by without them being discredited.

      1. I imagine that Erderly has gathered the lawyers for a potential wrongful termination lawsuit, grounded in sexism. Who knows the dirt she might have on some people at RS?

        1. I would hope that the impacted fraternities consider legal action of their own against RS and Ms. Erderly.

        3. I’m starting to think that legal action might be the only recourse against the SJW forces. No amount of logic seems to get through.

        5. I liken this to the Swiss approach to national defense. You might still get hit, but at least you’ll make it expensive enough that they might reconsider striking you first.

        6. ….and we’d never hear about it. Case in point; the Duke Lacrosse team. We know those men involved received sizeable settlements from Duke but along with the money came a gag order from the judge prohibiting them from speaking publicly about it. Over seventy five percent of the settlements in on-campus rape suits are awarded to the men for the way their rights are violated and the institutional harassment they suffer but that never seems to make the lead story for some reason.

        7. True… most such settlements have gag orders attached, but at least it is a good start.

        8. She got the job because she has a vagina. She keeps her job because she is willing to share it.

      2. The only reason Rolling Stone and other mainstream media outlefts exist is because they carry with them a presumption of credibility that they shouldn’t have. This article of course was easy to destroy because it was all based one person’s story (or imagination) with no effort made to fact check.
        Think about how many other media outlets also pull this shit.

        1. Agree. It’s the “shock and awe” factor to get readers (or hits on their site). Then, later, a “oops…sorry we made a mistake” is printed somewhere but who cares at that point. They got the clicks (or readers) so it doesn’t matter if they were right or wrong…as long as they got the traffic.
          More people (you would think) should abandon these outlets (for poor decisions) but they don’t…they just follow along with the drama.
          It’s all about selling drama, today, no real news any longer or any value.

        2. ^^This. Presumption of credibility.
          Of course, now that no one is going to be terminated for this debacle (invoking the pussy pass or just plain lack of will by her employers to enforce consequences of incompetence?) it can be spun as a ‘learning experience’.

      3. Just like a woman can “retract” a rape claim, and take no responsibility or penalty for the carnage she leaves behind.

        1. …..whereas anyone else (male) would be charged with falsely reporting an incident.

  12. Am I the only one that can read a paragraph and know instinctively if it’s written by a female?

    1. You aren’t alone. I just look for horrendous overuse of exclamation points.

  13. “the click-driven consensus-seeking nature of modern pop writing advantages females—in their navel-gazing and conformity”
    I did enjoy reading this. I am of the opinion that there are some good crime writers out there, although very little of is worthy of being called ‘literature’. I used to think the crime obsession was a function of women processing all that male nastiness, but the thing is female crime-writers write about mostly male crime – rape, murder etc – most typically in the absence of that nastiness, in a culture where male violence is becoming mythologised in the female imagination. The simple rule is the safer women become the more they worry and obsess over rape and murder, hence the ability to churn out masturbatory quasi-fantasy crime novels heavy in romance.
    The other thing which is touched upon here but not quite fully explored is the fact that women writers are rarely original because originality is the enemy. Its not that women promote conformity just because they are risk averse but because they are trying to produce conformity. Women’s writing which exists under the aegis of feminism (and marxism) is about changing culture, ideology, and representation which means that anything divergent from received politics is going to threaten the paint by numbers reality they are collectively trying to produce. What this means is that much (if not all) women’s literature works against creativity and actual originality, because original thought is threatening to the feminist reality that perhaps once was radical but now works largely to preserve a collective psychosis.
    And then of course there is chick lit proper. This is simply a disease of words, an always failed attempt to make art from banality. Its the reason why both TV and ‘literature’ now rots your brain in equal measure

  14. Female typist just dropped a new book called…. “Spinster.” It has gotten favorable mentions in the New Yorker, NY Times, and most recently the Post:
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/a-spinster-and-proud-of-it/2015/04/03/3b885018-d162-11e4-a62f-ee745911a4ff_story.html?hpid=z3
    “In “Spinster,” a book that sprang from her popular 2011 Atlantic essay, Bolick is taking back the S-word, polishing it and rebranding it as shorthand for the pleasures of being unattached.”
    The number one rated review on Amazon has destroyed it: http://www.amazon.com/gp/review/R33EJOAOGLF9V7/ref=cm_cr_pr_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=0385347138

  15. 6-ie grit sandpaper. Reminds me of a joke I heard when I was about 9. What do you give a lady massacre for a Christmas present? ans: A sandpaper kotex. . I still don’t get it

      1. Not at all.
        That would be “Manputin’s massacre of ukronazi”, sponsored by government.

  16. Female typist just dropped a new book called…. “Spinster.” It has gotten favorable mentions in the New Yorker, NY Times, and most recently the Post:
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/a-spinster-and-proud-of-it/2015/04/03/3b885018-d162-11e4-a62f-ee745911a4ff_story.html?hpid=z3
    “In “Spinster,” a book that sprang from her popular 2011 Atlantic essay, Bolick is taking back the S-word, polishing it and rebranding it as shorthand for the pleasures of being unattached.”
    The number one rated review on Amazon has destroyed it: http://www.amazon.com/gp/review/R33EJOAOGLF9V7/ref=cm_cr_pr_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=0385347138

    2. Hit the wall and unable to score a Beta provider, well just write a book convincing yourself and your tribe – thats its a wonderful life after all. Cleaning kitty litters and becoming a lesbo -is what all “smart ” women aspire to

        1. Its called schizophrenia. Its all the rage
          …btw – I wonder how will she divorce rape herself

        3. So, is it appropriate to tell the self-married to go F*** themselves?
          Of course, the question is obviously rhetorical.

        4. Given their solipsism, is it actually preposterous these days? If a woman can only see herself, who else could she marry?

    3. You have to love the way these women “cash out”. They can’t get into a healthy relationship with a man (or keep one) so they convince themselves (and the herd) that they have a wonderful life, alone.
      I’m glad that reviewer hit this book hard (well deserved). Someone has to smack these women around at times (and the reviewer was another woman, no less).
      Nice.

      1. I can give them points for one bit: creativity. Creatively coming up with excuses for why they’re no longer relevant, are unmarried, and much more.

        1. Right…it’s definitely creative (and delusional). We use to drop these people off at special places with special doctors…..the nut house.

        2. They are creative in writing about going overseas an riding the carousel but making it out like the book isn’t about that.

        4. Don’t confuse creativity for skill.
          Its like a modern “artist”, who dumps a pile of bricks in a bathtub, puts a dead parakeet on top, and calls it “modern art”.
          Imagination is not the same as talent.

    4. This review also appears to have been written by a woman. Can you imagine how bad it really must be if you read it through a man’s eyes?

    5. As the beta chumps dry up (thanks to the manosphere and men being informed and having options) we’ll be seeing a lot more books like this. I think as the Gen-X women start that home stretch to age 50 it’ll be so common for them to write books like this it’ll become a noticeable and lampoon-able pattern.
      “Write that book” will be synonymous with hitting 50 for these women.

      1. In that vein you might enjoy this film.
        It’s a short doc about black men leaving America to live in South America where they report increased quality of life, friendlier more attractive women, a decreased rate of gold-digging whores, sandy beaches and sunny skies.
        I found it on therationalmale.com and I found myself whispering “Excellent…” with an evil grin.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOjvPOBvd9A

        1. Interesting you bring that up. I have known black guys from Central America who would get angry with you if you referred to them as “black”. Heck even Haitians and Jamaicans I have known and worked with want nothing to do with “African American”. I’ve never heard them call each other “nigger”.

        2. I’ve known a couple people from East and West Africa and they looked down on African-American “gangsters”.
          Actual Africans were some of the warmest people I’ve known.

        3. I once lived in a Hatian neighborhood in Brooklyn and found them to be a nice and clean and respectable people just minding their own business. The black immigrants tends to be more respectable than that natives.

        4. Africans I’ve met in Australia are some of the nicest most humble people I’ve met. But I find with a lot of 2nd generation Africans here they start getting into that ghetto culture probably from seeing it on TV an start acting like try hard gangsters, they arn’t even African American, they look like idiots.

        5. That sucks… Africans are wonderfully warm, intelligent, and down to Earth… I don’t see how adopting the try-hard-gangster-single-moms-on-welfare model is an upgrade.
          Western culture is fucking retarded.

        6. I agree, I hate how people from non Western cultures adopt the worst part of Western culture.

        7. I agree. We have some apartments to rent, and some of the best tenants are the africans.
          The worst are the tatted up bogan tradies, who get hammered 3 nights a week, smoke dope, forget to pay their rent, and then hit you with “I’ve been a bit short this week”, as they clutch their brand new iPhone.

        9. That site is 100% quality 100% of the time. ROK is great for off the cuff commentary and fun articles, but TRM gives me more intellectual challenge and depth, which I truly appreciate. Heartiste I go to for sometimes fun comments but it’s the lowbrow part of the manosphere. We need all styles though, so everything is cool.

    6. I read Bolick’s Atlantic article when it came out, mostly b/c I was on a plane, killing time, and felt I could use some light comedy.
      She is typical of the dilettante “female typist” of her ilk–her desperation to show how “HAPPY!” she is comes off as, well, desperate. Having listened to her crazy mom constantly telling her to break up with perfectly acceptable men, she has subsequently allowed herself to age out of the marriage market by setting her sights too high. If she does marry, she’s likely to wind up with either a super-beta or the ultimate status symbol for the feminista literati–a gay husband, which is the up-market version of a house cat.
      So she spends what remains of her beauty trying to convince herself and everyone around her that she’s alone because she wants to be (*cough*-*cough*) and tickled pink about it….

    7. This is a fantastic thing, it’s a clear marker in the road they’re taking. Nothing says “Please help me, I’m going down the wrong path” more than try hard rationalization.
      Alas, men aren’t going to save her and her kind any longer. They blew their femininity out of the water, there’s no point in stopping them from going over that cliff in their Thelma and Louis car.

    8. There are 2 books next to my can. American Psycho, and The Manipulated Man.
      And this piece of entitled-princess drivel is not going to joint the ranks.

  17. Have you ever read anything by that fat fuck Lucy or Lacy something from Jezebel? I can’t remember her name but the difference is immaterial. They’re all the same in the end, in that they’re physically kicked in the face and their writing suffers from “No. Just… No” syndrome endemic in online writing today.
    I am a writer and I gave up on trying to preserve the integrity of honest, skillful prose that seeks above all to outdo the writer’s own expectations. As has already been mentioned here, that’s not easy to find now. “I’m a writer” now easily means “I curate for Upworthy” or “I’m responsible for the moving gifs on BuzzFeed’s ’67 Reasons Your Best Friend Is Actually Your Other Half.’” Some shit like that.
    On a separate note, the writing at ROK isn’t fantastic either. Want to read quality red-pill prose? Lately I’ve been reading Taki’s Mag. It trumps ROK not necessarily in theme but in quality of executing theme.

  18. This article is spot, fucking on.
    The narcissism of these writers is unbelievable. There is no historical reflection or analysis. If they do touch on history, it is always the typical “history is misogynistic” trope. Thus, their finger pointing exonerates them from having to deeply read any historical works, analyze them and compare their attributes against other complex writings.
    In short, they have tremendous difficulty understanding a concept that is separated from their own, emotional drama. Solipsism in a nutshell.

    1. For the most part they can’t read any historical works worthy of deep reading, they’re too “triggering.”
      Here’s how it works: one of them “takes the hit” for the sisterhood and reads* something, then writes a feminist screed on it. All the other women then read the screed as if it were a genuine historical work and then happily go about their solipsism believing they are historically aware.
      *Skims for triggers

      1. Right.
        Why should women read 10 books on the Roman empire? They can just read one female writer who calls the era misogynistic in a short essay.
        It’s pretty predictable at this point.

    2. Hell, just pull up any blog by a woman and you’ll find nothing but “look at me, me, me…”. It’s non stop whining and complaining about how it’s so terrible living in America today with all of these rights and privileges…what bullshit.
      Yet, they are still “oppressed” and “victims”. Hard times we live in here (non stop laughing). Poor women.

    3. If you think writing from women is bad, there’s a conflict going on over science fiction and fantasy. Google “Hugo awards and sad puppy”.
      I have seen some of the writing and let me tell you, women are bad enough at the word processor, but the SJWs are trying to take over SFF and I have seen some of that work in occasional short stories years back when they were just getting their marching orders to take over everything with their narrative.
      Now imagine you got some polyglot sexually fucked up otherkin sperglord trying to be creative. Imagine stories that seem like they were written by one person who is running a single aspect narrative while trying to treat everything like an inside joke and being ironic at the same time.
      It’s excruciating. I told one editor, who was in the process of being told “how come there not enough LGBT characters?” and stated flat out that writers who are going out of their way to include them all write the same crappy stories, as if they all learned how to write poorly at the same place, and nobody is going to read that crap.

      1. Great, now SFF has to be inclusive. Good thing Tolkien wrote Lord of the Rings in the 1940s. In a contemporary telling Frodo would be banging Sam in the ass all the way to Mordor.

        1. Or you can write a red-pill story about a woman heroine but the tone drips thick with manly philosophy, think Heinlein.

        3. And they would be married, and would have adopted a few Cambodian orphans, all of whom would get diagnosed with ADHD and juiced up on Ritalin.
          The only villain would be a man, and the heroes would all be women, trannies, or gender-neutral hermaphrodites.

        4. Ugh, I hate SJW’s. Men cannot be boon friends anywhere now, not even in fiction, without them snarking “gay!”

        5. Great insight. Heinlein was subversive to The Narrative before most people knew there was one.

      2. I saw that story the other day. I tried to pitch a sci-fi story a few years back, and I noticed that all the requests were dripping with SJW theology (this was in the Writer’s Market). Don’t send us a story unless the lead character is LGBT, etc.
        Your commentary here is spot on. The genre is dead now, strangled to death by political correctness.

  19. Lena Dunham is now writing for the New Yorker? I was like WTF. My ex used to get the New Yorker , when were together I would occasionally read it. Despite being progressive left in its politics – the writing was damn good. Now they have a self professed pedophile with the intellectual capacity of a gnat for one of its token female writers. Man is this country fucked

    1. I despise the New Yorker. Its written by(and for) liberal elites who live on the Upper East and West sides of Manhattan.

  20. I can’t even think of a quality female author other than JK Rowling, and even then the last book sucked because it was formatted to be turned into a movie. Just goes to show feminists have far too much time on their hands when they really should be submitting to the yolk of a husband and doing the dishes.

    5. George Eliot, Jane Austen, Flannery O’Connor, Alice Munro, Toni Morrison, the Bronte sisters—all master authors and all female.
      Though it is still true that quantitatively the greatest authors and writers are men.

      1. Jane Austin?
        Huge novels about trivial topics. Never understood the fascination with her.

  21. The passive-aggressive, snarky, shaming language of many female writers on the internet, and their mangina imitators, makes my teeth itch.
    “Wow. Just wow.”
    “That is NOT okay.”
    “I can’t even…”

    1. The problem with women writers today is the excessive hyperbole, needless swearing, and on-the-nose sarcasm. It’s just like how the new She operates in the 21st century. The writing simply reflects the culture.

      1. Modern women needlessly swear because they think that it makes them look ‘masculine’; they don’t like to realize that it just makes them look trashy.

        1. I’ve started saying “That’s not very feminine” when I hear females cursing like sailors. Got it from this site actually. Have done it a handful of times and the reaction to it is odd, yet fun. Be prepared for snarling back, but also watch for this strange look to come over her face, she literally has an identity crisis across her countenance in the span of a second.

        3. It would have, twenty years ago. Today you’re likely to get “Dad? What is that?”

        5. Heh, much improved!
          Unfortunately she’ll probably look at you and honestly answer “Yes”.

    2. Nice job capturing the derivative literary idiosyncrasies present in our modern feminist “outrage” culture.

    3. I worked with a skinny faux intellectual hipster faggot who regurgitated each of those constantly.
      They know deep down they need to be punched in the face, and hate us for not doing it.

      1. The Germans have a word for it: Backpfeifengesicht. The loose translation is “a face made for getting punched.”

    5. I agree.
      Add to that my favorite words to hate.
      “empowered”
      “not helpful”
      “inappropriate”
      “female safe place”

  22. The one female written book I thoroughly enjoyed & came out inspired by in recent memory is Longitude (1995) by Dava Sobel. The book documents the origins of the concept of sea navigation & the man (a non scientist watchmaker named John Harrison) responsible for using timepieces in solving the serious problem of determining longitude position at sea. Sounds like a dry subject but her writing made it a very fascinating read. Gave me a greater understanding & appreciation of longitude & latitude as used in mapping as part of my own work.

  23. Cormac McCarthy was once quoted as saying he doesn’t understand literature that doesn’t “deal with issues of life and death”, which describes most of the fiction I’ve read that was written by women. Regardless of the quality of their writing, I think the main failure (for me as a reader) of female writers is that they usually write about subjects that aren’t of interest to me.

    1. that’s one of the things that makes it so hard to take female authors seriously. As far as I can remember Aristotle’s poetics clearly distinguishes drama / tragedy from comedy and one of the defining characteristics is that a work that qualifies as such should exhibit “order and magnitude”. Much of the male canon deals with ‘heroes’, great figures etc, in line with this expectation. When you get to women’s literature, there are a few women perhaps who take this aesthetic / poetic requirement seriously, but most seek to depart from it, thereby arguably violating one of the requirements of “great” literature. I haven’t read the Arundhati Rhoy’s “The god of small things”, but I’ve always thought as a title alone it quite nicely characterises the move away from magnitude and order that characterises so much female “literature” about the small things that are so important in life, by which I mean the banal bollocks that they tend to write about and which has its logical fulfilment in the chick lit that pollutes the books sections of supermarket shelves.

  24. Did Mary Shelley really write Frankenstein? Because I suspect her husband, Percy Shelley, had a hand in it.

    1. This might be the only book I read from a woman… And I didn’t find it very good.

      1. It was heavily panned by critics in her day as well. Had she not been a woman who hung around with the great minds of the day, the work would have been forgotten within a year of its publishing.

    2. Shit, I said the same thing above. You can *feel* Percy and Byron guiding her hand in structuring the plot and developing the characters in a very visceral way, IMO. Fuck me but if you can’t hear Manfred whispering into the monster’s ear from time to time. The horrible over use of pretentious language however is pure 100% her trying to show how “in-tee-lectual” she was.

  25. Flannery O’Connor is the only female writer that will always be constant in my reading.

    1. You’ve just reminded me that I’ve been meaning to get on with “Wise Blood”. The film of the same with Brad Dourif is one of the great tour-de-force character studies in modern film. O-Connor wasn’t part of the narcissistic hive phenomenon.

  26. Nice article Matt, although this one wouldn’t cause a furor because everyone knows this already. Curious though, which female writers do you find worth reading ?

  29. I TOTALLY disagree with this article; there is a LONG, DISTINGUISHED tradition of brilliant female writers: George Eliot (Mary Anne Evans), Emily Dickinson and . . . and . . . Fuck, I guess that’s it. Never mind; you’re right, Forney.

  30. As you mentioned, it has a lot to do with how they were raised and how they were told, at every step, that they were special. When I was young, I used to write a lot, and so did my little sister. Nobody would bother to read what I had written, and I was told from an early age that I should just get a job and pull my own weight in life. My sister, on the other hand, was told that she could be a great writer if she really wanted to and should follow her heart. She failed at school (an impressive feat for a twenty-first century woman) because she was too busy living in her own world.
    Of course, she’s failed at life so far. First she wanted to study to be an English teacher, but after a year she decided she wanted to be a psychologist instead and went to university for that. Within a few months, she decided that she didn’t want to be a psychologist after all, and now she’s going to study English language and literature. She used to work in a supermarket, but she ‘could not stand the stress’ and quit. She doesn’t write much anymore, just fan fiction.
    Now, I don’t blame her – I blame the people who encouraged her. The people who never looked at her work objectively and just told her “good girl, just follow your dreams” when she submitted a bad story or a chaotic, poorly-written essay. But when I see other girls (especially the ‘alternative’ ones) who want to write for a living, I see my sister. And I see myself, getting punished for suggesting a few changes that would make a story about a Mary Sue more palatable.
    And I feel really bad, because most of them will end up stumbling through life. If they’re lucky, some man will take pity on them. But if they’re not, they’ll be stuck in a vicious cycle of aging, having to do more and more to attract men, and not being financially independent.

    2. If you find canonical literature terrible, then I’d suggest that you may want to expand your horizons (no offense). A man who cannot get into Beowulf has a serious screw loose, heh.

        1. Ah, ad hominem. My comment was not given with insult intended. You appear however incapable of anything except the lowbrow. Now I see why higher literature confuses you.
          Your comment was unqualified. I saw “most”, however, any literature making it through hundreds of years or more probably has some content that is not terrible, assuming it’s not feminist, ergo, your remark makes no sense. New lit, sure, no issue. Old lit, well, it becomes a myopic comment.
          Snarking and sneering mean nothing. If you can’t engage me intellectually as a man then don’t bother replying, I can get snarky SJW insults anywhere on the web for free.
          Slainte.

        2. Fuck off faggot. Youre not worth engaging in any manner other than this. Youre a poser.

        3. That means so much coming from an account with less than 40 posts. I’m wounded, perhaps mortally. How ever will I survive your cruel intellectual onslaught? Alas, I am destroy-ed.
          So basically you have nothing to contribute and are incapable of rational discussion like a man. That’s fine, we now know where you stand.
          Now bugger off back to Jezebel, kid.
          I know you need the last post. Go ahead, I won’t read it nor respond to it, but it may give you some catharsis.
          Slainte
          EDIT: The correct form is “you’re” not “youre”, btw. Just helping.

    3. Dude, here’s a great book written by no less than a great author, leader and orator,

  32. Strange, but I have never read a book written by a woman. My first thought about that came when I created an account on Goodreads. Believe or not but Goodread is more masculine than this site. Male authors dominate the ratings there.

    1. I’m not sure about that website specifically, as I do not know it. But that’s what you get if you have a system where people can judge books by their quality and not by the rack on their authors.

  33. There are some really great women authors in history. The Bronte sisters, Barbara Kingsolver, JK Rowling.
    Women bloggers, however… as the Tumblr type would say, “Just no.”
    The problem with women writers today is the excessive hyperbole, needless swearing, and sarcasm. It’s just like how the New Woman operates in the 21st century. The writing reflects the culture.

    1. Rowling is a fine author, but much of her work is quite derivative, even if she manages to be derivative in an original way. She’s an author I’ve enjoyed reading (as most people have) but she’s not really going to tell you much about the human condition. Although her description of Dementors got those SJWs down to a T.

      1. Harry Potter absolutely speaks to the human condition. Courage in the face of evil. Together and not alone. Trust and friendship and love and all that shit.
        Whether or not you agree (I certainly don’t), the woman still wrote like a beast and hit World Series Game 7 walk-offs with all 7 HP books.

        1. I like Rowling, and I read her stuff, and have never felt ‘polluted’ for having done so. I take your point about the themes she covers, but while she produces great children’s / fantasy literature I’ve never felt that any of it really tells me anything I haven’t heard before. My points of comparison would be the great 19th century authors (so perhaps not that fair a comparison). Having said that an obvious comparator is Tolkien (who is clearly an influence) and I’m not sure he does much better really. Her real strong-point is as a story-teller who can spin a yarn, which for the most part is all that most people are interested in

        2. It’s a children’s book however.
          Dunno man, I’m looking for more than the perpetual adolescence that entertainment expects grown men and women to remain in these days. No discredit to Rowling, say what you will, clearly she found a market.

      2. Ursula k Le Guin did it before Rowling and did it better. Wizard of Earthsea blows Harry Potter’s Suessian bullshit away. Rowling just makes up a bunch of nonsense words when she writes herself into a corner. Those fucking quditch matches are some of the stupidest shit I have ever read.

        1. I remember finding The Left Hand of Darkness a bore to read honestly, but some of the ideas were interesting.
          I think Mary Shelley’s Frankenstein is my favourite book I’ve read by a woman.

        3. It’s funny, I was thinking that just a few hours ago while reading up on what’s going on with the Hugo awards this year. Rowling does “readability” well, but little else. Her Hugo win is goofy. The Earthsea Trilogy is a well told tale, although the last book drags a bit while the focus is on a girl.
          As for quidditch, it’s less believable than cars that fly by magic. The woman doesn’t simply not know sports, she doesn’t know what a game even is.
          I finished the first book, because it was readable, but I’ve followed the rest of the series on Cinema Sins.

        4. Ugh, absolutely disgree with Shelly (see above). It *could* have been a good book, but she was trying *way* too hard.

        5. That scene where the monster wakes up in a forest to perceive reality for the first time really got to me for some reason.
          And the whole theme of man vs. nature made me think.

        6. Right. My problem isn’t the story really, nor the concepts of the story, in fact I find the entire relationship between Frankenstein and the monster well thought out. It’s just that god awful pretentious use of language. Other literature from the period would “French up” the English language a bit, yes, but she basically tried a full frontal conversion of English to French and it came off very badly in my view.
          I strongly suspect that given the origin of the novel i.e. – a ghost story telling contest in Switzerland between her Byron and Percy Shelly, that the actual story (which is good) was influenced by and contributed to by the *extremely* literate and intellectual men, and the language came from her. Given as she had *no* other writing worth reading, well….it’s a theory of mine.

        7. They are talking about the possibility of doing a head transplant onto a younger body. Cant get more Frankenstein-ian than that…

        8. I wouldn’t be surprised really. The science fiction aspect was pretty sophisticated for the time. How many women from then really cared about the medical discovery that nerves communicate through electrical impulse? Doesn’t sound like a chick thing. Maybe though who knows.

        9. Compare the rants of both the monster and Dr. Frankenstein with Byron’s Manfred and some of his more dark poetry some time. The similarities are *striking*.

  34. You could probably learn a thing or two about female psychology by reading some of the books they drool over though.
    The only problem is you might go bald from pulling all your hair out.

  35. Case in point: “The Goldfinch.” Absolute drivel, couldn’t get past the second chapter of this gigantic pile o’ TP. The NY Times Book List lost whatever credibility remained by recommending this travesty. Here’s a a woman “typist” (spot on) attempting to write from the perspective of a teenage boy. Absolutely cringeworthy. But all the “adult” women readers I know loved it because…”it’s just…so GENUINE!” LOL. Stick to cookbooks.

    2. “…Stick to cookbooks.”
      Why? Didn’t you know that cooking is patriarchal oppression?

  36. Ugh, an example I had to read in high school: To Kill a Mockingbird, by Harper Lee. The novel became an imputed “classic” only because it came in handy as propaganda during the early civil rights era, when our elites wanted to bully and shame us white Southerners into compliance with integration and other now obviously failed social experiments.
    And, of course, we had to watch the film version starring Gregory Peck. If anyone disputes the propaganda nature of this story, just ask them how they would feel about a new film version with black actors playing the characters in the Finch family – say, casting Denzel Washington as Atticus Finch. Why, that would change the meaning of the story! they might reply. But I thought the story sends the message that race doesn’t matter. If the race of the characters does matter, then they force the story on children as white-humiliating propaganda.

    1. The only thing I learned from novels like that was that brevity is truly a lost art.

    2. Though to be fair, To Kill A Mockingbird is in my book a true classic (in cinematic and literary form), plus it has some good insights on false rape accusations made by the white womynz.
      Also, Atticus Finch is truly a manly figure

  38. When I was a teenager in the 90s, I read tons of books. Some of my favorite authors were Tolkien and Stephen King. Then one day I was recommended one book in particular that involved the story of King Arthur. I was a big fan of King Arthur stories at the time. I went to the library but I found out the author was a woman. Guess what? I changed my mind and didn’t read the book.
    The book was The Mists of Avalon. Read this synopsis from Wikipedia : “The book follows the trajectory of Morgaine (often called Morgan le Fay in other works), a priestess fighting to save her matriarchal Celtic culture in a country where patriarchal Christianity threatens to destroy the pagan way of life.”
    Can you really blame me for avoiding the book with a synopsis like this? I was immediately turned off.
    Sadly these days, the book industry has been taken over by women, and the books seem to frequently have feminist messages in them. I stopped reading books a long time ago.

    1. That book was written by Marion Zimmer Bradley, leftist / feminist hero.
      In response to the Sad Puppies Slate dominating the Hugos, one of the Tor Editors, realising his clique was losing control, called the Sad Puppies ‘Child Rapers’. This is classic projection.
      Marion Zimmer Bradley was married to Walter Breen, a convicted child molester, and, according to her own daughter:
      “Bradley molested her starting when she was three years old and continuing until Greyland was twelve and able to walk away. Greyland also describes Breen as “a serial rapist with many, many victims,” but says Marion “was far, far worse.”
      The Hugo Clique have never publicly denounced Bradley, or retroactively-reclaimed awards from her. Never forget: if the ideology is in the writing, these SJW ‘Good People’ will disregard child molestation, yet all us ‘evil’.

      1. that would make a good article. These people have achilles heels and you have to attack them

    2. Just one problem, the Celtics were nowhere being matriarchal. They were very macho.

      1. Yes, exactly. The modernists have taken Boudicca and extrapolated her as the ‘standard’ for all celtic societies in history ever. Fact is she was queen to a KING who was slaughtered, and watched her daughters get raped before her eyes. She was pissed and lead an admittedly impressive campaign against the Romans. To avenge the death of her KING and the mistreatment of her daughters.
        The celts were, if not more, patriarchal than every other Indo European culture at the time. Probably why they are in the crosshairs of feminists as well as being the ideal fantasy of women via the kilt wearing bodice ripping Scots.

        1. All early European cultures are male-dominated. The women were valued for their breeding and irrationalism, which open them up to the Gods’ influence, which was why there were priestesses and the oracles. Logic is a powerful tool but it can easily get one-tracked and blinds men to other factors. Guts is just as important when dealing with other people. In this respect, women can be a great tool. However, even the best women, like the goddess Athena, were all red-pill women with exceptionally close relationship to their fathers and who prefers the company of men over other women. The story of Aphrodite and Ares is a perfect red-pill story of Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.

    3. “Can you really blame me for avoiding the book with a synopsis like this? I was immediately turned off.”
      I made it to the first page. We start with Morgana Le Fay, who in the first paragraph takes a sneering, cheap shot at the Catholic Church. I put the book down at that point: the first page is a pretty good indicator of the shape of things to come. It’s sort of a record with me: even I kept reading Stephen Donaldson’s hair-tearingly-terrible text up until the rape scene.

  39. How fortuitous that I just had this lovely text exchange today with a true champ of a woman and then this article came along. Women’s Literature now totally encourages this behavior yet, surprisingly, never talks about the potential fallout! Notice my sarcastic-assholish way of trying to troll her into saying she was raped, and also not even giving a fuck about “the glass in her face”:

    1. So she was kinda raped? Will she kinda see the guy again next week so he can kinda rape her again?

      1. Probably. I mean, she didn’t WANT to have sex, but “it just happened”!
        Oh wait, since it only kinda happened and she didn’t really want to even though she didn’t verbalize this or put up any sort of physical resistance, it “doesn’t count”!

        1. It’s a great “out” in case she appears to be a slut (or someone claims that she sleeps around with many men).
          She didn’t want to do it, it just kind of happened, she gains all of the upside of the exchange and she has her “slut” shield on.
          This is women in everyday life. Looking for all the angles….to have it all.

  40. IMO men should make an effort to be better writers. We basically handed the book industry to women on a silver platter. Look at most young men today. They are almost illiterate and can’t write for jack shit. This is really sad. Being good at writing is almost considered a feminine trait these days.
    My first language is French and I am pretty good at it. Much better than the average man. But women are usually better than men. A school, some people considered me “feminine” because I was one of the best guys for writing in French. This is just stupid. There is nothing “feminine” about being able to write properly. It’s this kind of idiotic thinking that encourages men to drop out of school. Soon, it will be considered “feminine” to be good in maths or even have an education, then we will wonder why 80% of the degrees go to women and why they make more money than us.

    1. if you read literature from the first part of 20th century british public schoolboys spoke to each other in french at least some of the (and I don’t think it was just a literary confection). They probably also buggered each other a lot of the time, but the point is that literary / studious / intellectual used to be a masculine rather than a feminine trait

      1. Plus, there are great men who write beautiful literature (fiction and nonfiction)—Herman Melville, JRR Tolkien, Nathaniel Hawthorne, Henry James, Cormac McCarthy, William Faulkner, Ernest Hemingway, Norman Mailer, Ludwig von Mises, Murray Rothbard, Albert Jay Nock, HL Mencken, Leo Tolstoy, Fyodor Dostoevsky, John Milton, James Joyce, George Orwell, and many others.
        All these were men, not women.

        1. the canon of great literature is overwhelmingly male, but of course that’s precisely why its under attack by those who want to displace that canon. It worries me though whether there are (m)any male writers today capable of producing great literature capable of sustaining that tradition. If so it will need to be in reaction to rather in compliance with the zeitgeist

        2. I am not one to discount all non-canonical literature (as authors like Stephen King can have their value), but the Western Canon (and the “canon” of great literary classics) is by and large high-quality. The best defender of that canon, to this day, is the great master critic Harold Bloom (I have yet to own a book of his, but despite whatever small disagreements I may have with him, I am impressed with him, and I think that he is worth his salt, so to speak)

        3. I’ve heard about his work through camille paglia – i think she was his student and quite influenced by his views. He’s not around though now, and it says something about the world we live in when probably the only real defender of the western canon today is a lesbian feminist lol. Didn’t Bloom write about the closing of the american (western?) mind. He wasn’t wrong

        4. No, that was Allan Bloom.
          Harold bloom wrote THE ANXIETY OF INFLUENCE, THE WESTERN CANON, HOW TO READ AND WHY, a bunch of critical analyses on classic authors and stories, THE ANATOMY OF INFLUENCE, and others.
          He has a new book coming this year: THE DAEMON KNOWS. It’s a book about the great American literary figures such as Emerson, Melville, Faulkner, and others (many of them who are male)

        5. glad to hear he’s still fighting his / our corner. We need to defend the universal or at least enduring value of the western canon. You’d think that would be easy given what its up against

        8. Well said. It’s fascinating to me how men are supposed to be brutish thugs, yet we make up the bulk of canonical poetry and literature. No woman alive can express the depth of feeling and empathy that you’ll find in Chekhov, for example.

        9. This. Just this.
          And a man, Henry James, is basically the master of 19th century American realist prose stylists (along with Mark Twain, of course)

        10. Some of his classic fairy tales:
          The Goldilocks Standard
          Snow White and the Seven Market Derivative Valuations
          The Three Little Hog Futures
          The man was prolific.

        11. haha!
          Has anyone read “The Road to Serfdom”? The title scared me off…

        12. Yes. It’s is frighteningly prophetic given when it was written.

    1. lady murasaki was rumored to be a man deep within the court of the empire but wrote the prose of the heian court in a woman’s tone.
      but that be a valiant attempt with genji motogatari

  42. Part of the problem is high school English teachers. I was careful to avoid the most fanatic feminists, but my friends weren’t so lucky. The hatred for men and ineptitude among many English teachers lead boys to hate writing and reading. It is very unfortunate.
    I have encouraged some of my friends to give writing a second chance in college, and to carefully pick good instructors. They were stunned to find that they really like it. If more men were led to writing and reading I am convinced these horrible women writers would go away.

  43. Ayn Rand has to be the most notable exception. Promoted the philosophy of the ideal man and scoffed at the idea of a female president.

  44. Mo Hayder is a brilliant female writer of thrillers. And not that airport novel crap that stupid women inhale by the truck-load. Her books are some of the most disturbing, fucked-up shit you’ve ever read.
    And she’s really hot, too.

    1. damn right, although she no longer looks like the picture on the dust jacket. Tokyo is superlative

      1. That book haunts me to this day.
        She still looks pretty good, though, for an older lady. I’d throw her one.

    2. Well, she’s passably cute when younger, not sure if I’d go the “hot” route though. And no, I’m not a “pointy elbow” type, I just looked up her pictures on Bing.
      Will have to pick up Tokyo since both you and michaelmobius1 recommend it.

    1. Her novels are tolerable if you keep in mind they’re just vehicles for delivering her philosophy.

      1. By Atlast Shrugged, yes. Before that, not really, though she later does a round about turn to incorporate them into her overall philosophy by referencing them extensively.

  46. I think writing about one’s self is a problem across the entire current younger generation. After being told repeatedly and without qualification “write about yourself as there is nothing more interesting in then world then YOU” they started to actually believe it.

    1. I forced myself to read some Jane Austen last year. God, that was painful. Such attention to frivolous detail: someone is coming over to dinner, who is going to marry who, etc.

      1. Though to be fair, she was writing in the 19th century, and if 19th century writers are known for anything, it’s verbosity by their attention to detail

        1. True. But at least with someone like Victor Hugo or Melville, they are tackling the larger questions that face humanity.

        3. I find myself simultaneously despising the politics of Hugo and being absolutely smitten with his writing.

        4. I agree. On some level, Hugo gives birth to modern liberal thought. But his writing was excellent, no doubt.

      2. Yes, she is awful. So is Mary Shelly. Frankenstein was horrendous. She was trying *far* too hard to use pretentious “upper class” language to the point that it hindered basic intelligibility. I say this as somebody who is quite fond of canonical literature, so it’s not a “wall of text” complaint. She simply sucked at English.

      3. Put it this way, Mark Twain himself said when he read one of Jane Austen’s novels, he formed a sudden desire to find her grave, dig up her corpse, and hit her over the skull with her own thighbone.

      4. I taught in a boy’s school where Emma was on the syllabus. Naturally they were bored shitless reading it. When I enquired as to why Emma was mandatory reading at a boy’s school, the only answer I got was that it gave them an insight into gender roles and ‘women’s experience’.
        The fact is that the best novelists are almost always male, and that is true even today. The greatest _serious_ novelists right now in America are men. e.g Cormac McCarthy, Philip Roth, Thomas Pynchon, Don Delillo etc. If you are interested in more popular fiction, you have authors like Stephen King etc.
        Female authors are mostly a waste of time.

        1. The worst is someone like Toni Morrison, who students have to read because she is a woman and black.
          I felt like I needed therapy after I read “Song of Solomon.”

    2. Rand ain’t bad. Anthem was fantastic, and The Fountainhead was rather well done. But she had an interest in logic and how men saw things so it’s no surprise she did better than most other female writers.

      1. women should study logic. They’re supposed to be interested in foreign languages

      2. I don’t like Rand. Her novels were just vehicles for her philosophical ideas, which I don’t particularly agree with in the main even though I’m not anti-capitalist.
        I agree with you that she was on the side of logic though, and she hated feminism.

        1. That’s why I listed Anthem specifically since it was pre “I have to be a philosopher if it kills me” phase. The Fountainhead was interim between that and Atlas Shrugged, with AS being the full push into philosophical propaganda (I still liked it though). The Fountainhead actually told a story that was compelling with good character development (except Roarke who was the same from page one until the end).

        2. It has been at least 15 years since I last read Fountainhead. I remember preferring it to Atlas Shrugged, so I’ll have to just take your word for it.
          I always admired her bravery, particularly when she would go on national television and criticize a society that encourages false modesty.

        3. It is preferable if you’re looking for more story and less propaganda. After that she went into self referencing blowhard mode. I in fact do like most of her philosophy, but she really needed to tone it down in supposed “fictional” works. Not the philosophy, the overt “in your face’ fifty page diatribes.

    3. Flannery O’Connor isn’t bad. I enjoyed some of Willa Cather’s books.

  48. I was hoping someone would touch on this. I have an ex who dreamed of being a writer. I found a WordPress profile she has and she totally exhibits #2. Constantly writes about her feelings and silly sh!t about her “muse”. I lurk to remind myself why I broke it off (other than she was married).

  50. I’d like to expand on this further – As someone who has been involved in the arts for most of my life, I can honestly say that 99% of all females involved in something creative are outdone by men. Female artists tend to just copy popular painting styles, leading to a mass of artists whose work all looks the same. If they do cartooning they never bother to learn to draw clearly, it’s pretty much chicken scratch (Which they then chalk up to “style”, basically a way of saying “I’m too lazy to learn how to draw”).
    And in terms of music I’ve very rarely seen a female who was exceptionally talented at an instrument. I will say that the female voice can be a beautiful instrument, and most of my favorite singers are women from a technical standpoint. But how many female lead guitarists can you name (Besides Bonnie Raitt)?

  51. We don’t normally think of the philosopher Rene Descartes as a man of action. But he did go out on his own and he sought employment as a gentleman-soldier. He writes in his Discourse on Method:

    . . . as soon as my age permitted me to pass from under the control of my instructors, I entirely abandoned the study of letters, and resolved no longer to seek any other science than the knowledge of myself, or of the great book of the world. I spent the remainder of my youth in traveling, in visiting courts and armies, in holding intercourse with men of different dispositions and ranks, in collecting varied experience, in proving myself in the different situations into which fortune threw me, and, above all, in making such reflection on the matter of my experience as to secure my improvement. For it occurred to me that I should find much more truth in the reasonings of each individual with reference to the affairs in which he is personally interested, and the issue of which must presently punish him if he has judged amiss, than in those conducted by a man of letters in his study, regarding speculative matters that are of no practical moment, and followed by no consequences to himself, farther, perhaps, than that they foster his vanity the better the more remote they are from common sense; requiring, as they must in this case, the exercise of greater ingenuity and art to render them probable. In addition, I had always a most earnest desire to know how to distinguish the true from the false, in order that I might be able clearly to discriminate the right path in life, and proceed in it with confidence.

    How many young women these days would follow Descartes’s example of going out to read “the great book of the world”? If they did that for a few years and tried to learn things outside of their own solipsism and narcissism, then they might have something in their borderline-feeble minds worth writing about.

  52. Female output in general is terrible. Their purpose is not to create, but to rationalize emotions and conform to group beliefs.

    1. Yes, which explains precisely why the new communism uses them and promotes them over men now. Communism is nothing but rationalization of emotions and it demands conformity to the beliefs of the greater group. Feminism and communism go together so well it’s surprising that they didn’t both come from Marx himself.

  53. Women should be banned from journalism. Society would be much improved by this.

  54. Women aren’t even good at writing, yet they think they deserve to be in STEM.
    Writing is, if anything, a profession that women should easily be able to succeed at, especially in the Internet age. But they can’t.
    And women think they should have well-paying jobs in STEM, even if they don’t have the skills for the job.
    LOL!

    1. The percentage of women in STEM jobs is lower than the percentage of STEM workers who have insufficient communication skils.
      Writing effectively has been a problem in STEM for a very long time, it goes way back to when there were virtually no women there at all.

      1. But men are better writers than women anyway, as is highly evident everywhere.
        Women have no aptitude for stem, partly because STEM involves producing real value, which women are averse to.

        1. I don’t think you have any data for that, and Im not going to start my day with rebuttals like ‘and men are better at…’ but Im sure youve heard plenty of similar responses before.
          You just absolutely cannot expect to be respected as any kind of talent in STEM if you are going to make stupid statements like ‘Women have no aptitude for…’ Can you not find a way to form your opinion in to a statement that is less obviously wrong. What percentage, Most? Some? All? Start a sentence with ‘Ive never met a woman who was…’ and at least you get to make a statement of personal opinion, but youd rather exaggerate in the hope a mob of people will support you. Not very scientific but hey you are practicing your social engineering. Maybe if you truly ae smarter than everyone you can just manipulate idiots to get by. This is common in STEM, especially with the ones who are terrible communicators or who falsify their data.
          You definitely get no respect from me by finishing a sentence with ‘… anyway’ Its a sure sign you accept my point was valid and now you’re trying some other tactic,
          Ive decided to edit the rest out as I dont see why you should benefit from being schooled by me on how to converse like someone worthy of respect. Youve a long way to go before you can say anything about STEM and communication abilities in others.
          I see zero aptitude for it on this blog, are you all 14 years old or should I take this laziness as an example of contemporary man?

        2. Women have no talent in STEM, and never will.
          ‘Feminism’, far from helping women, has instead exposed the full extent of female shortcomings in a way that would never have been possible before ‘feminism’.

        3. Don’t be such a prat. As Ive said already, your statements are not exactly scientifically based, You display no talent, so who are you to judge?
          All you are doing is exposing your own shortcomings.
          And how the flip can feminism cause such a problem for women when you choose with your punctuation to imply that it doesn’t exist.
          We both know there are plenty of men with shortcomings, they are the ones bitching about women taking their jobs.

        4. Excellent example of scientific accuracy in your writing there. Your content has no value, does that make you a woman?

  55. Note that male success in literature spans ALL cultures. Western, Chinese, Indian, etc. Even the 1001 Arabian Nights was written by men.
    The indictment is damning.

  56. So, I have a question :
    Can’t Artificial Intelligence programs now produce articles that exceed the quality of all these female ‘writers’? Should all these femtrolls lose their jobs, as one software program easily exceeds the caliber of their output?
    Doesn’t that mean that women have already been surpassed in Turing Test terms?

  57. Now, here’s some real talent. By women (watch it to the end – it’s awesome).

  58. Kathy Shaidle is great. Probably the only woman whose writing can make me laugh.

  59. I can’t remember the name of the prestigious New York Times columnist who was replaced by Anna Quindlen, during the 1980s, but I do remember the accompanying joke: His beat was the world. Her beat was herself.

    1. How so? Women have extensively proven that they have no ability to be worthwhile authors or journalists, with maybe 1% of them being exceptions.
      Your butthurt comment reveals that you know this to be true.

      1. Nearly everyone is awful at everything.
        This entire article was a waste of time and effort much like this fatties other articles. Why hes writing for these sites as if he lived the life of a man dealing with hot girls is beyond me. He just repeats others in the manosphere.

  61. To be honest there are few millennial writers male or female that write anything of interest.
    Most of it is just either click bait or self-aggredized tomes about post-collegiate life, or living the life of cum dumpster for girls.

  62. The zeitgeist of today is characterized by individual narcissism or nihilism towards the zeitgeist of today. Modern publishing is like the Soviet meat grinder tactics in WWII applied to the equality doctrine. Obviously many of these women authors do not have a “weapon” yet they keep coming and coming. The issue is not that they suck so much as it is that more deserving non SJW works are and have been sacrificed to this strategy.

  63. 4. 99% of female writers concentrate on details that have no importance. For instance, “Jack walked in, he was wearing a brown suit that matched his dark, chocolate eyes and I had a sudden craving for something decadent; but I know I shouldn’t as I’m having trouble fitting into this dress that Aunt Mae bought for me last Summer when we were on a shopping trip in the Italian Riviera.” Or she could have just said, “Jack walked in, I had an urge to suck his dick.”

    1. Heh, yes!
      I don’t mind descriptive narrative if it makes sense. You have nailed down the primary issue with that from a lot of writers, even males ones, these days.
      If you have ever read female porn, at least the kind made before the year 2010, you’ll find extreme descriptions of everything possible which then dovetails into the action after much fumbling. You get three paragraphs describing the make, cut, style, fringe type, manufacturer, where it was bought and color of her bodice, and one sentence of “Laird McCleod ripped it off without effort”.

      1. Actually the worst case of this is American Psycho. There was a 24 page chapter on how to shave! Then again, I loved that book as the overly-descriptive passages were in character with the obsessive-pedantic nature of the protagonist; and were equally descriptive for the kill scenes. Brett Eston Ellis – wrote Alien too, fyi.

        2. Do it! It’s an experience. Long though, need a few cups of coffee. Had a friend who bought a baggie of speed and read the whole thing in one night.

        3. But also an insight into the bland meaningless mind of the narcissist psycho who thinks his opinion is always interesting. Brilliant writing, bad character.
          Good point. Female writers of romance are narcissists. Maybe the female characters need to be more proactive.
          (I dont think anyone can argue that boyish Arya is having a more interesting time than girlie Sanza right now…)

    2. 5. Most women not only write about themselves, they write FOR themselves. The truly great writers, both male and female, write for a universal audience, touching on issues that may not affect them personally, but which they can nevertheless recognize as important. This is why male authors can write female characters convincingly, but female authors rarely write male characters that resemble actual men. Narcissism is the knowledge that other people exist, you just don’t care. Solipsism is the philosophical inability to perceive the existence of others. Women writers excel at both, which is why they suck, but also why female readers LOVE them.
      Middlemarch is one of the greatest works of prose ever written, IMO. Any Jane Austen book is also among the greats. Charlotte Bronte is also terrific. Proof that culture has always allowed genius to rise, no matter what gender the writer happens to be.
      There just aren’t that many female geniuses.

    3. Lol, women have imagination and enjoy subtelty, they dont get overcome by sudden urges like you describe, thats you that is.
      The first sentence is very effective in describing the entire situation and frame of mind of the woman, and achieves so much more than your version.
      Admittedly the second half of your quote is extrememely lame writing, did you get this from a book, or is it your own?

      1. Honey, it’s all mine. And your opinion that the first version is “very effective” tells me that you don’t have a fucking clue what telling a story is, as opposed to indulging. A real author only uses “big words” if he needs to, but not just to indulge his ego. A real author describes everything you NEED to know and leaves out the other shit as that would just be indulgence. I real author cares about entertaining the audience, rather than themselves. And females are shit at all that.

        1. Thats your opinion, and youve a right to have it. But since your made up quote sounds like shit from a Mills & Boon, its not exactly a fair example of what women write, its mindless crap, and written for an audience of bored mindless housewives.
          Nonetheless, if you want to read saucy books that talk about sticking cocks in mouths, then yes you need a book written by a man for men. If a woman wants to read a harmless romance then, like I said, the first line of your example has the appropriate amount of suggestiveness to allow the reader to exercise her imagination and feel involved in the story, it allows the reader to put themselves in the place of the main character, thats because women enjoy a bit of empathy. Your alternative version is tasteless and leaves nothing to the imagination.
          And your argument about big words seems rather invalid, since decadence is a much bigger word that your cock.

        2. I suggest you stop reading female authors then. Read Fight Club. It’s a short book and it’s fucking great. And there is no flowery bullshit, practically every single line is there because the story needed it. Your taste in what constitutes entertainment is crap right now, you can be cured.

        3. The only sad part of your reply is the assumption that I am not well read in the first place. I have no need of curing. This is the main thing Im fighting against in this forum. Please all stop assuming Im a bimbo or a feminist, there’s a whole world in between these extremes.
          The needless ‘suggestions’ have been boring me for years and I dont want to have to submit a CV whenever I want to contribute to a conversation.
          There is no sane person in the world that would ever think that the best romance novel is anywhere close to the worst of Chuck Palahniuk’s brilliance. And I have no need to disagree that the fate of Trevor Stonefield in Pygmy is both entertaining and more realistic.
          Ive read 2 M&B romances in my life to laugh at. Ive read the occasional meaningless ‘holiday read’ based in my available airport shop options, and Ive read *a lot* of much better stuff by both genders.
          But you are comparing your charicature of escapist romance pulp fiction to a genuinely great book. Its comparing shit to diamonds, and does not serve as an honest example of female vs male authorship.
          My only critique of your original post was the imbalanced comparison.
          So the toilet scene with Trevor stonefield is also very effective, it is direct, it is not flowery, it is a very appropriate description of an act, using appropriate language that matches the emotion of the scene. It is bloody funny and I also enjoyed being in the shoes of the main character. Its more unique circumstances make it a better choice of reading material.
          Your example line of the internal notions of the flowery silly chocolate addicted woman in the romance book is also appropriately written for that context. You may not notice it yourself if you have not ever felt like melting into a pair of beautiful brown eyes when you’ve not had any (oxytocin substitute via chocolate) for a while. But women dont look at lovely brown eyes and immediately envision cocks in their mouths. (Thats what Trevor Stonefield would do.)
          but the second line is an example of crap which supports your stereotyped opinion, its an example of crap, in a womans style, Not all books have this crap in. _everyone_ including women, know that romance books are as talentless as many of the detective and sci-fi books that also get churned out on a pulp basis.

    1. “Her finely touched spirit had still its fine issues, though they were not widely visible. Her full nature, like that river of which Cyrus broke the strength, spent itself in channels which had no great name on the earth. But the effect of her being on those around her was incalculably diffusive: for the growing good of the world is partly dependent on unhistoric acts; and that things are not so ill with you and me as they might have been, is half owing to the number who lived faithfully a hidden life, and rest in unvisited tombs. ” – Middlemarch

    2. She was able to feign being a man at the time because her writing did not come across as utterly feminine. So she had that going for her.

  65. Women writers suck because their lives just aren’t interesting, and women in general are sheep. I agree with your points, but that won’t stop media giving these talentless “strong, independent women” jobs. The demand for hamster rationalisation is indeed very strong…

    1. I think the news outlets are obligated to carry a certain amount of feminist thought just like corporations are obligated to hire lots of women and even promote them, some corporations, even if it kills them. The trick isn’t to denigrate the women so much as it is to ask the news outlets who they’re afraid of. Feminist networks and the wall of feminist tyranny could easily, safely and profitably be ignored if someone would just break the ice. Women in media are tolerated, not needed.

  66. Nice takes, Matt.
    I have a few I don’t mind discussing. Maureen Dowd and Sally Jenkins, that write for NY Times and WashPost are the big time female typists. First, Sally, daughter of Dan Jenkins, the sports writer, Sally writes politics in the guise of sports reportage and badly at that. She was the first of the lady-typists to barge her way into locker rooms. Her every tome is me, me, me and how she is a pioneer and how her sitiuation and how “she” relates to sports tinges and affects all. She was part of the gaggle that shamed the NFL into pink booties for breast cancer (and of course, she’s not interested in concussions, unless it bashes the male structure that runs the NFL). The great gusts of sulfur she gushes about Ray Rice and women in sports are fueled only by feminism, not sports. I could go on and on about how she hews to the feminist convention, but suffice to say, she’s reprehensible on so many levels she defies accurate description. Her every scribble comes right back to how wonderful she is, however. In sports, more than politics, they worry more, so more sports syndicates carry her, so she’s broken out of the WashPost mold, but just barely.
    Maureen Dowd has spent the past twenty-five years complaining about men and being catty toward Hillary Clinton, mostly, because Maureen is in love with Bill Clinton. Of course, Maureen couldn’t have him unless it was deep undercover, but rumor back in DC in the day was.. But never mind THAT. Of course, Maureen was handed her typist blathering position at the NY Times three decades back, give or take. and somehow, the big syndicates resisted signing her for more widespread circulation. Why? Well, because news outlets other than New York Times won’t but her work. Why? Because her every tome is about her, about why she doesn’t have a husband which of course is because men don’t want a “Strong” (read: ball-busting feminist) woman. Feminism isn’t sold, it’s consumed, printed and then ignored. Yeah, it’s tough to find a husband when you’re Maureen Doud. Even a pussy like Thomas Friedman didn’t want her after he banged her. It’s not that we’re weak, it’s that we have weak tolerance for nonsense. Donald Trump banged every good-looking woman in NYC the past 40 years, but he somehow missed out on young Maureen, who of course is in full contact with the wall for twenty years now.
    Those are my two favorite female typists who actually “made it”, but they were handed their positions in spite of themselves as a bone thrown to feminism and politically correct times. If they had been men, we’d never have seen one word of their puny, self-absorbed thoughts.

    1. Loved it. Better than either cow or horse manure for most shrubbery and perennials.

  72. My Norton Anthology of English Lit, used in my sophomore course in college, did not feature ONE female writer – ouch! We did not have the quota or “diversity” mentality back then. having said that, there were some great women writers – Edna St. Vincent Millay, Elizabeth Barrett Browning. Of the living ones, Joyce Carol Oates is pretty good. The worst thing about women writers today is the whole feminist shtick – the feeling that she somehow represents “the woman’s view,” instead of having an individual voice. So yeah, most of it is dudu.

  74. “You’re a 21 year old from Vermont. You’re not that interesting.” LOL, sure. She’s interesting enough that you’d be dying to get inside her 21 year old pussy, right?

    1. There are a lot of 21-year-old pussies in the world, so that’s not a great accolade. Besides, I bet he’s also dying to get into the men’s room after a couple of pints.. doesn’t mean he finds the place interesting.

  75. Lay back and relax. They can write. We can write. They can write. Stop indulging yourself in these silly corners of the internet and have a child. Write a book. Write that book & raise that child to be a better person than you. Set examples. This is not productive.

  76. Anyone who asks you to review their writing style using their Dumblr posts as examples, that’s a red flag right there.Lol. But I guess female writers are like female commedians.. by and large, rote and boring. Their “edginess” consists of bitching about men, bitching about their job, bitching about their weight, bitching about their vaginas, bitching about relationships, did I mention bitching about men, bitch bitch bitch. And similar to writers, the men in the audiences are obliged to laugh along with these “ladies” and their mirthless brand of comedy, or else be branded misogynists.
    Yep, the few genuinely talented female comedians I can count on one hand: Nina Conti, Ronni Ancona, Joan Rivers (you heard me!) Although it must be said, I don’t find all that many male comedians funny and talented either. Again, not unlike the average male hack that vomits out much of the leftist PC garbage we see in the mainstream media. The days of Truman Capote are gone…

  77. “Where is the female equivalent of Return of Kings? Where are the women who are blazing a path of independence against the mediocrity of the Crowd? There are a few, but ” …
    1) they were driven away by hoardes of angry young men calling them feminazis, threatening violence and generally being quite immature and nasty.
    2) most women dont need to dedicate their time to hatred against a whole group of people, or childishly bitch about independence, they are aware we live in an inter-dependent world where the best results are achieved with cooperation in solving problems and not by fighting over supremacy. Essentially they have more important things to do.

    1. Too bad women never actually produce anything of value.
      Important? Like looking at selfies of themselves all day?
      Men created civilization. Women create nothing.

      1. Again, if someone would make just one statement about women that was true for me I might have a little respect for you.
        Mr Toads, It appears to me your experience of women is entirely based on your internet experience only of looking at these selfies. Do you even talk to any women?
        Your aphorism is laughable.
        But you’re right, your mamma never produced anything of value.

        1. Rosie, you simply have no idea how women think. That is right, most of the men here know more about how women think than you, a woman, does.
          Objective proof of female inferiority is everywhere. Your whining (partly because you are trolling for sexual arousal for yourself) is not based in facts.

        2. Hilarious! If Im a troll I certainly am finding this entertaining, as well as understanding the mind of teenage boys and how angry feminists come to be. I truly had never considered that trolls do it for sexual arousal, but I should have realised the connection between anger and sex in men. Very interesting point indeed!.
          So, do you like, think were flirting right now?
          But while I confess I still have no idea what goes on in the mind of an insecure hormonal young girl, with all their boy stealing and throwing themselves at sweaty disease ridden youths, and you can claim better sympatico with both of those groups than I, you may even have had some success with females of that type, I don’t think any of you who take the time to spunk your sad inexperience all over the comments here actually have a clue what a real woman is thinking as youve only ever managed to pull the ones thick enough to fall for your stupid games.

  78. I brought a book written by a woman, I have to put the book down, I thought it would be a good book, NOT!!!

    1. I’m ascertaining that you automatically decided that it would be of low quality due to the author’s gender . I see stupidity knows no bounds.

  79. For a more interesting male writer, check out practicallyalpha.com, it’s a work in progress but let me know what you guys think.

  82. Eat Pray Love describes the white, upper class, female mentality to a T. That movie alone is all you need to understand today’s women.
    The whole movie takes place in a magical cocoon where her husband pays for everything in her life. No doubt her parents paid for everything before that. When she finally realizes her chance, she divorces her husband and goes on a voyage of discovery in her magical world.
    Everything she touches is magic. She lives in a nice house in Brooklyn and “works” as a playwright. Her 20 years younger protege, James Franco, is an unemployed actor yet he lives in a nice apartment in Lower Manhattan and she has no problem moving in with him before dumping him because she’s a totally selfish twat.
    The whole movie is filmed in a glossy sepia tone because that’s just how the world is. She prays to God to find herself but never makes any kind of sacrifice or tries to connect to others (except when it benefits her). She travels around the world but not the real world. Rather she travels in her cocooned version of the world where she never gets robbed, raped or murdered. She never even gets her handbag snatched nor does she lose her luggage.
    The worst bit, for me, was the part in India. The only bit of real India we see is when she’s racing through the streets of Delhi passing by begging children, then it’s straight into the expat-only ashram that James Franco’s guru owns. The entire rest of the India sequence takes place in the ashram where she has all the food she can eat and a free bed. (We never find out how much this all cost or who paid for it)
    Never does she step outside and get to know regular Indians. She is not curious about the world around her, unless of course it’s about her.
    And the whole thing is about ME ME ME ME ME and her marriage. Everyone she meets has a different story about a broken marriage or a future marriage and it all reminds her of her own marriage. The only Indian we almost get to know is the 16 year old girl in the ashram who is about to get married. While watching the Indian marriage, we get flashbacks to miss ME ME ME ME’s marriage.
    Then, afterwards, she tells the Indian girl she prayed for her to have a happy marriage and the girl was so happy and thanking her for it. Then, at the end of the movie, she helps a woman in Bali raise the money to build her house by emailing all her friends to send money (instead of giving her a $20,000 birthday present she was otherwise used to apparently). That and copying her fortune teller’s records at the local photocopy shop and putting them in a binder is the total of her sacrifice for others.
    I could go on and write another 20 pages about this turd of a movie but you get the picture. Maybe I’ll take her up on her offer and book a ticket to Italy to stuff my face with spaghetti before going on to meet Gary Glitter who will show me the best underage whorehouses in Cambodia. I need to find myself.

  83. Most women don’t understand what moves a story forward, because they aren’t goal-oriented beyond getting a rich, hot guy to fall in love with them. They don’t understand conflict because life-and-death is too unpleasant for them to contemplate; all of their drama is petty, self-centered and internal: “Why didn’t daddy love me?” “Why am I so fat?” If they take the time to look outward, it’s only buy into the media’s idea of what they should care about-i.e. whatever the SJW cause of the month is. They don’t know how to put prose together in an interesting fashion, because their word choices are emotion-based and circular, not logical and linear. In other words, they can’t write because they think like girls.

  85. “I can’t even begin to tell you the number of stories where I see so many (men) in coffee shops, sitting with their notepads, thinking they are going to be the next (Stephen King), that it makes me look at them with great disgust.”

  86. Virginia Woolf, Emily Brontë, Jane Austen, Isabel Allende, Carmen Laforet, Gabriela Mistral, Rosalía de Castro, Simone de Beauvoir, Mary Shelley, Emily Dickinson, “George Eliot”, Charlotte Brontë, Madame de Staël, Safo… If you knew something about literature, you would remember her names.

    1. Virginia Woolf: trust fund baby, bipolar, anti-Semite, committed suicide when England looked like it would lose World War 1.
      Emily Bronte: Reclusive and probably autistic, was paranoid about “poisoning doctors” such that she rejected medical assistance when severely ill (although she gasped she wanted one when she was literally on her deathbed), wrote one book compared with male writers who were heavily prolific.
      Jane Austen: of whom Mark Twain said every time he read one of her books he formed a desire to dig up her corpse and hit her over the skull with her own thighbone.
      Isabel Allende: Compared unfavourably with Gabriel Garcia Marquez, whose magical realism style she rips off. Harold Bloom, probably the pre-eminent literary critic of the modern era, says she “reflects a determinate period, and that afterwards everybody will have forgotten her.”
      Carmen Laforet: Parroted existentialism, aped Camilo Jose Cela, again like Allende copying off a male writer who did it better and did it first.
      Gabriela Mistral: Poet, not a fiction writer, and therefore outside the discussion. Not relevant to anybody since roughly 1945.
      Rosalia di Castro: Galician snob who never learned English, no influence of note on literature at large, small fish in a smaller pond.
      Simone de Beauvoir: Ephebophile. Would seduce her students and pass them on to Sartre. Understood full well she damaged them psychologically doing so. Read by catlicking feminists, not by anyone else.
      Mary Shelley: Adulteress. Married to the much more talented Percy Bysshe Shelley. Wrote one novel which was a foundation of the horror genre (and which her husband had to edit and rework extensively to put it into a publishable state), which no reputable literary critic reads. Fled England.
      Emily Dickinson: Poet. Clinically introverted to the point of being mentally ill, lived most of her life in a Howard Hughes-style seclusion without having earned the money or the flamboyance. Could not even attend her fucking father’s funeral.
      “George Eliot”: Adulteress. Also observed the usual female double standard by marrying a man 20 years her junior while criticising men who married younger women of a similar age. Wrote one good book. Compare with Shakespeare and dozens of male authors who managed to do the same and a shitload better.
      Charlotte Bronte: the smarter Bronte sister. Four books. Nothing that notable compared with males of the same period and beyond.
      Madame de Stael: Political activist, not an author, and thus dishonestly included in this list. Grossly exaggerated to her own benefit her “escape” from the September massacres when she wasn’t in any danger. Amusingly included on this list because the poster mistakes political thinking for literature, in common with most Marxists.
      Sappho: One of nine lyric poets listed by the Ancient Greeks. The other eight the
      Greeks thought worthy of mention are men.
      Yeah, no, I don’t see anything memorable here.

  87. haha wow was looking for a good article and found a menist complaing as per usual! good job!

  88. My first degree is in Literature, and all of the female writers we studied were substandard, and the ones like Virginia Wolff got famous for inventing “new styles,” which were only called that to justify that they couldn’t hack writing normal, readable stuff. And they got published only because of family ties, today the SJW media. And female translaters. . . No way. They just make stuff up. We’d always be happy when we owed a paper from an assigned woman author, because the professor knew that we only had to make stuff up about what she said. We weren’t held accountable.

  89. Talent in writing or lack of there of is not correlated to gender , race etc . EL James is awful and her books aren’t examples of good erotica but her poor quality is not due to gender . There are many famous , published , unpublished or hobbyist writers of all sorts from modern and premodern times from all sorts of diverse backgrounds
    Modern quality writers who happen to be female :Cassandra Clare Suzanne Collins, JK Rowling, Gena Showalter and more
    Quality male writers: Nicholas sparks, John Green , author of the fallen series (not the gothic novel ) and more including Stephen King
    My former professor Rick Book is a great
    Writer
    Speaking of terrible writers, Roosh falls under this category .

  90. While the point of this might very well be that a certain style of self-talk and lack of risk taking is uninspired, the general tone of negativity towards women in general is not really helping you make your point. Instead you just sound like you have an issue with women in general.
    I haven’t seen addressed the age differences in the women, or their backgrounds. There are no real mentions of which female authors ‘pass the test’ so to speak and are readable.
    Also, if some women still write under male pseudonyms (or just initials, which are harder to discern a gender from) how do you know that some of the decent readers aren’t just women who are NOT playing the gender card at all?

  93. Girls write about sex and that’s the only way they can get published because sex sells… I have yet to read a novel by a woman that I enjoyed.

  95. Hey matt, you forgot reason number 1:
    They’re women.
    The “fairer” (fuckin lol) sex have never had much talent for writing.
    Rare exceptions, typically strange women.
    Most write as well as they talk. And they talk as well as they think.

  96. The greatest crime in writing as you well know is boring the pants off of the reader.
    Well sir, you made it to that esteemed group.
    ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzZZZZZZ
    Tough being a fat, old, bald, white man these days, isn’t it?
    Awwwwwww.

  97. Yes because I want literary advice from Matt fucking Forney, creator of such literary masterpieces as Do the Philippines. You know that book based entirely on the style and formula of Roosh’ books. I just can’t even handle the amount of risk Matt took by writing a book in the style of already popular and successful books.

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