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ANNOUNCEMENT: The Meetup On February 6 Is Cancelled

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I can no longer guarantee the safety or privacy of the men who want to attend on February 6, especially since most of the meetups can not be made private in time. While I can’t stop men who want to continue meeting in private groups, there will be no official Return Of Kings meetups. The listing page has been scrubbed of all locations. I apologize to all the supporters who are let down by my decision.

For more information on Roosh, visit his Wikipedia page, official bio, or unofficial resource at Daryush Valizadeh dot com. He is currently developing the neomasculinity platform for men through the Poznan Institute, named after a city in Poland where it was conceived.

6,942 thoughts on “ANNOUNCEMENT: The Meetup On February 6 Is Cancelled”

      1. The real Aristotle fled Athens so that his countrymen would not be able to sin against philosophy twice. I agree in avoiding the example of Socrates.

    2. Try not to rape anyone. Remember, drunk people cannot consent to sex. That includes man on man action.

      1. So people don’t have the right to get drunk and screw. I guess that means everybody from the 70’s should be arrested.

        2. Thanks to brain-dead feminist lobbying. I miss the freedom of the 70’s. Not that I would be in the bar scene any more. But anyone who would screw like the conssent videoes Berekley makes in their “Consent is sexy” i a shit. And I would rather masterbate than screw like that.
          I will be soon celebrating my silver aniversary, and I know what is rape and what is not. Here is a song from a more romantic age. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzyun-6zlVE

        4. Believe me, until I walked around a college campus, saw the anti-male straight white male propaganda and followed the info in the presss, kangaroo courts etc.- all that went a long way toward making me a right winger.
          We now have the utlimate low trust society.

        8. The new feminaziz behave a lot like the Anti-Sex league in Orwell’s 1984. Fortunatley, all this BS only applies on college campuses and is based on a very tenuous interpretation of an executive order and not law.
          This law does nothing to promote safety for women. It is only about promoting rape culture propaganda.
          I have never seen a woman by the way who wanted to screw that way. Like in the college consent videoes. This generation has lost its mind.

        10. Getting consent can be very sexy and if you don’t get how you are definitely s creep and also probably awful in bed, if you’ve ever actually gotten laid anyway.
          Rape is defined by the law, not you.

        11. I would say that you will probably never be able to have a long term relationship. I have been happily married for 25 years. All the ideology of your generation will leave most of you with barren wombs like your feminizi leaders who preached hate.
          Enjoy reading gender studies books with granny glasses. As you will never be a granny.

        12. Your wife must be even dumber than you. You don’t know my relationship status or history so that’s an ignorant assumption, don’t you think?
          My womb is fine, women are for more than breeding.

        13. I’m sorry you feel threatened by not being allowed to take advantage of drunk people. I’ve been around many drunk people and have found not raping them to be very easy. If you feel compelled to rape, you should see a psychiatrist.

        14. Pity to see someone who cares more about their ideology than people. And pathetic how someone assumes that calling people a “sexual loser” for not believing their political aganda will make an impact.
          Yes, male weaknesses for pussy is powerful. Our species is wired that way. And leads men to stupididy, especially when young. . But even there, it is possible for young women to overplay the hand. And override the programming. That the woman with the vagina can make herself so repulsive that sexlessness becomes preferred. And as many women lose all the qualities that make them attractive, they lose the ability to strike at the male complexes of inadequacy. Only a real woman has that power, and they are not in gender studies departments. With red tinted hair, piercings, nose-rings doing slutwalks. I actually understand the young dudes and their video game. Aparently, Anita Sarkesian does too, as she is getting jealous these kids are choosing their screens over her and her ilk.
          When I was young, even dudes not getting action would lie. Their ego was so tied to their success with women.That was my main goal in life in my 20’s. I felt shame during my dry spells.
          I am surprised when I hear young dudes today. They are not ashamed of being 25 year old virgins and talk happily about their video games.
          Makes me worried, but I understand how the narcissism of worthless women can make Rosy Palm seem pretty good.
          I read this site because I am worried about the young dudes. I have had a happy life. Starting to see the beginnings of old age. Only thing that makes me afraid at is something happening to the woman of my dreams. Best girl I ever dated I married.
          Glad my son is overseas getting a break from USA campus feminazi culture. As it is hard to find anyone worth committing to today in this country. He has a laid back attiitude and is fairly popular.
          But I have spent 30 years in education. Am about to retire. Have more than enough years. Have watched changes in kids.This generation has the biggest issues by far.
          Lowest in ability to trust and form relationships.

        16. We are sorry for women because they are always victims as they are inferior in mental and physical abilities than men.
          We are also sorry for your feminism failures.
          http://www.cbsnews.com/news/has-feminism-failed/
          But we have heard too much of your crying and temper tantrums that we just don’t care about you any more.
          So now that Men are currently in the “I don’t care” phase, you better watch out for the next phase!

        17. The narrative goes like this. Call someone who opposes the kangaroo courts and “affirmative consent” a misogynist or rapist because “he lacks the ability to get laid’.
          Actually, thoese folks do exist, Tiny percent of population.
          It is such a joke…
          :”Can I hold your hand.? Can I touch your thight etc ”
          I am amazazed they got so many idiots to go along with that crap on those videoes “Consent is sexy”. I guess it takes a Berkley education to override genetically endowed common sense.
          Everybody has to have feminazi protocal sex because of some psychopaths. Who would not give a crap about it anyway.
          All affirmative consent laws do is make it so people would prefer to jerk off than deal with a feminazi. (And please do not confirm the feminazi sex protocols with real consent. We are all for consent. The sex protocols and consent are unrelated.)
          From now on, I refused to use the word affirmative consent as it does not mean anytrhng. The more accurate term is…….
          SEX PROTOCOLS

  3. Wtf? I was a really looking forward to the meetup.
    The femicunts and all their parasites will use this sudden U-turn as “proof” that they were right all along and all the foolish men who tune into the MSM will believe them.
    This is a serious blow to our credibility.

    1. This is proof of our virtue. The feminists are free to pat themselves on the back because they “won”, but we’re still here, and we will have a meetup eventually. In the meantime, the safety of the members is more important than an egoistic victory over feminists.

      1. Good points and agreed. Let them win the battle and toot their horn; in the end, we’ll win the war. Still, caving-in to MSM propaganda undermines us big-time.
        Had this happened, it would have been a historical event and would have struck fear into the heart of feminists and all their parasites like never before.
        I guess it’ll have to wait. Patience is a virtue.

        1. Think of it as a WWII Resistance operation. Sometimes, you get the chance to take out munitions trains, but sometimes all you can do is spread the Nazis thinner.

      2. Think about all the people that will read “rape legalization group” and then actually read the original satirical article about “How To Stop Rape.” I mean, the titles says that he wants to stop rape. This should wake a few people up to the realization that the media is run by mean girls who blog for nothing more than mouse click ad revenue. I know that most people are too stupid to realize it was satire, but SOME will. Many philosophers have been killed for speaking the truth, killed by mobs too stupid to understand satire, but those philosophers were remembered throughout history by men and Kings.

    2. hahaha you think you had/have credibility??!! even dumber than everyone already thought….

      2. this site is fucking hilarious i thought these guys might have a bit more crazy in em seems like a big bunch of sad losers hating on women…Seriously though anyone one with depression this site is a Cure!!! one look at this sad bunch and there is no way you cant feel 100x better about your own existence

    3. The only solution around this, in the current political climate, is the establishment of a secret society. It’s an extremely powerful tool … ask any mason. It can be modelled after freemasonry, though with an entirely different purpose and charter. “He lives well who lives the secret life” is a motto that the most successful secret societies religiously follow.

    4. I remember you saying which location you were going to. I might still be going.

    1. I was wanting to go but there were none in my neck of the woods, I had to work otherwise I’d have organized it.
      Why not just start scheduling regular meetings for men and men’s empowerment? There is a Right to Assemble and it seems to me it’s better to stand strong and show the internet terrorists they have no true power over men that choose to assert their rights.

    1. Nah man, Roosh definitely has enough sense to put the safety of many men before the mission at hand, so this is a good decision

      1. People in Texas were calling for groups who openly carry pistols to show up to the meeting and “take out the trash.”

      2. if you guys are just a “discussion” group why are you all so afraid if you were truly what you say you are post your real names?

    1. yup, a bunch of hairy muff chunky dykes will be strapping on their cocks and pegging SJW types until the cows come home (the cows being their even fatter girlfriends)

  9. You committed the error of bringing this to the media. All the stupid tweets about Australia ruined it.

    1. That was a good decision. He got a lot of media coverage and attention. Now more and more intelligent men will awaken to the truth and see how ridiculous these SJW sheeple are.
      On another note, it’s always possible to organize the meetups in private next time (connect with people on the forum and organize private meetups)

    2. Really? In Australia it was all the work of one smug little attention seeker who started a Change.Org petitition to make sure Roosh was banned from entering the country and state police attended the meetups to take names and addresses to put on a sex offenders watch list. She then got her media contacts to give it way more oxygen than it needed. Smug little thing was happily posting how chuffed she was that her petition had topped 100K signatures and got a response from the elected arse-clown who currently is the Minister for Immigration. All the stupid was there long before the tweets…

      1. Traditionally, when a petition you put online is successful, you do tend to brag. But to put it into perspective, I live in Australia, and the only thing I heard about this event were via his tweets. Which quite obviously were a great way to attract attention. I found it confusing for a second that after tweeting for a week or so about how the meet up will occur whether we like it or not, and that he’ll be here, and he’ll infiltrate our borders complete with visual aids, that he then had to make the events private because counter protests started popping up….you’d think he would have forseen that, before making a very very public show of the whole debacle. But then, it became quite clear that that was exactly what he wanted, and whether the meet ups happened or not didn’t really matter – the publicity was all he really wanted.

        2. Really honey? You must be out in the bush cos it was all over the papers here in the big smoke.
          And yeah, free publicity. Smart man!

        3. Ahhhh bulldust, Erin. Most Aussies didn’t know who RooshV was until Tuesday morning when their MSN feeds vomited up the first stories of the beat up onto their homepages. I’m well aware that for some cyberstalking shielas (who have a perverse fascination for following things they find offensive), this might come as a shock, but news of the NSW petition got the story to the mainstream.
          As for bragging about your online petitions, yeah really good thing to brag about –
          “I did no fact checking, posted defamatory statements and the herd followed. If only Change.org had steam achievements, my life would be complete.”
          Ah well, I suppose ‘positive change’ could be viewed as doing nothing, bar defaming one man and achieving little positive discussion on the real issues surrounding the safety of both men and women when it comes to venues and alcohol. Wonder how many young folks’ll end up in A&E this weekend from alcohol related violence and accidents…

  11. So you guys just pussied out. Don’t hide behind “safety and privacy”. You just pussied out. Embrace your cowardice.

      1. Prevail at what? Having a huge sausage fest across the world to prove your “masculinity”? Like I said, you’re nothing more than a bunch of cowards.

        1. Sausage fest? I thought we were trying to lure girls to our pro-rape rallies…
          Which is it?

        2. ah yes being called a coward by the faceless, anonymous avatar in a comment section. I shall write of the shame I feel in my memoirs.
          You have won this day S3k5hun1.
          I’M SUCH A COWARD!!!!!!!1 (shakes fist at air in fury)

        3. When did I say you were trying to lure women? Please I would actually like proof that I said that, because I don’t remember saying it.

        4. 58 MacFarlan ave, Hawthorne NJ 07506. Please, “Della”, I would absolutely love to see your faceless rape mob try something. Please, prove to me that you guys aren’t cowards. I’ll be waiting.

        6. I would love to see any of you faceless cowards come to Hawthorne, NJ and try something. Please, prove to me that you guys aren’t cowards. I would love to see it.

        7. I’d love to send you my address, Della. Please, actually prove to me your “masculinity” Prove that you aren’t a worthless coward.

        8. Isn’t that why you types were up in arms about the meet up? Because all the pro-rapists were getting together.
          So if you weren’t worried about us luring girls and harming them, why would you have so much butthurt over some guys meeting up?

        9. Show me where I said that. Please, I would love to see where I said I was afraid you guys would be luring girls and harming them.

  12. I’ll be waiting for the celebration video Roosh. I know you plan all of this ahead. Let the vermin feel the hate when you prove them all this was a trick.

  13. If we upset the feminist / SJW crowd to that extent, it means that we are doing something right. Never give up.

    2. How about if you fucking morons are upsetting the actual MRM and egalitarians and people with common sense? It’s not just people who are wrong who are against you. It’s everyone who’s not your pack of morons. I know basic logic doesn’t mesh well with this community, but the world isn’t black-or-white.

      1. If you do have common sense, please explain why you are so upset. And no need to be vulgar or resort to name calling.
        And what is MRM ? metabolic response modifiers ?

      2. Look at you. A girl with an opinion. That’s sweet. I wish I could pat you on the head. I really do…..as you sucked my dick. My only remark to your opinion is actually a question…..
        Do you swallow?

    3. YES! Never give up!!! Please. I live for this site….for the next few days then will get bored and move on xxx

  14. A meet up was lame. What would be funnier is if everyone here found some you go girl, got her to fall head over heels and then did a coordinated break up.
    That shit would be hilarious.
    This valentines day at noon everyone tells the feminist that has eating up the bs that “no…I was just kidding…you are too ugly for anyone to ever love”

    2. lol isn’t that the reason all you sad saps are here..hating on women cause you cant handle the fact they are rising to positions of power these days and none will sleep with you?…so i guess that valentines plan of your is a big flop

  15. Ha….buncha fags. Can’t get laid on your own merits so you suggest rape. Maybe try a circle-jerk…seems more suited to you closeted fucks.

    1. You can’t read too well can you? You should’ve gone to English class the day they taught about satire moron. No one is pro rape you silly Mangina.

        2. Or what tough guy? Exactly…you ain’t gonna do SHIT. Now sit your ass back down and shut the fuck up junior.

        5. We don’t care if,
          “you all”, believe us or not.
          We gave up ever trying to, “convince” you hysterical screeching morons of anything based on logic, truth or facts.
          And make no mistake queef huffers, we’re going to conquer you.
          White knights, STAY used to celibacy or sloppy thirds with the drunk fat chicks on a good night.
          SJW’s, get used to being back in the closet.
          And femtards, get used to the kitchen heat, because you’re going back….and please, kick and scream on the way. 😀

        7. ok then army ranger whats your real name and your squad..? or are you just another lonely cocksucker who cant get laid like every other wanker here?

        8. well i shouldn’t have said “or” cause even if your were an army ranger being part of this site makes u a sad cocksucker eitherway 🙂 you guys should just come out as gay and stop being so hateful towards women

        10. Sure you are little-dick. I’m SO SCARED. I think you meant “Ass Ranger” when you said “Army” ranger.

        13. I serve my country proudly so that pussies like you can have the freedom the to spew verbal diarrhea on the internet. I am done with this conversation i will not speak furter or listen.

        14. Well it’s a good thing I’m writing and not speaking…fucking moron.
          Reading is different than listening smart guy.

        15. sgt holtzman vincent you are a disgrace to any army and should be ashamed of yourself you sad sad loser

      2. Shitlib logic: Prove to me you’re not a rapist. If you don’t, well you must be a rapist.

    2. Circle jerk?? You mean that thing where gown men jerk off all together… That is way to progressive for these guys here. That is the sort of thing only enlightened progressives are capable of.
      You have to see the light of the multicultural lantern in order to circle jerk. No one on this site has that type leftist mind think. These guys here are all way to independent and strong willed than to have to rely upon others in a group of same thinkers to circle jerk.

      1. Well, that and you “fellas” would actually need dicks to jack off with. Given the average cuntnugget on this site, I’m guessing y’all might have a grand total of an inch between you.

        1. Oh look, you have hurt feelings. Sounds like you are running a little scared.
          You know that whole blustery act big and tough thing. You almost have it down.
          Keep at it and someday no one will pick on. Maybe even your mommy will love you some day. Meh, doubtful but maybe…

        4. Somebody sounds hangry and tired.
          Go get mommy to wipe the snot off of your cum drenched face and take a nap pumpernickel.

        5. That’s right, your mom did squirt all over my face whilst I feasted on your former birthplace. I’ll wipe that lady-glaze right off 😉

        6. So you must be a chubby chaser but my mother is still a beauty even with the weight she has gained.
          Very very progressive of you. All that body acceptance/fatso flattery and such. Keep it.
          Judging by your commenting I would never even a second look at your mother. She is hideous or mean or both or a trans-man by now.

        8. Yeah, I was gonna fuck your mom but like I said I couldn’t chew back the stench from across the room when she opened her thighs. Run over skunk comes to mind.
          No way any sane person could go near that hunchback, back boobed, club footed monstrosity you call a mom.

  17. the problem was operational security. The dates locations should have been obscured, and the meetups only held on Roosh’s command. By telegraphing so much, you allowed blowback to build up, and lacked the means to plan outside of the public gaze.

    2. Agreed. Had we known what kind of circus this would turn into I doubt Roosh would have made the info public. Next time be more paranoid.
      I would suggest having another international meetup next month or two, but doing it on the quiet. Keep strong men!

      1. heck, plan it in a week. Feminists can’t sustain rage for that long. Waiting longer will just give them more time to recharge.

    3. On the contrary, the world saw femtards and the media for what they were. Their strength was revealed; they overplayed their hand too soon. Many men who have not taken the pill will have taken a look at RoK and Roosh. Ideas will percolate through.
      Christianity was persecuted for several hundred years. Look how it turned out.

      1. “men who have taken the pill”..? what the fuck are you crack pots on its as you say I came here too see for myself what you guys are all about and from all i can see from the articles on this site you’re all just a bunch of sad lonely men who cant get girls and decided to rally together like a bunch of fucking losers..so yes you are getting more publicity but all that is showing is that you are all a lot more inept than the world realizes if you support any crap like(and i agree i dont see much about “rape”) this please do the world a favor and just fucking kill yourselves…yes women are crazy and yes there is double standards for men but hey we are men, just fucking deal with it as a race we have dealt with much worse and women have dealt with worse shit from us so at the end of the day if you don’t like it start sucking dick not that I don’t think all of you do already…or yet again if dealing with femminists is so hard for you just end ya Muppet of a life we would all really appreciate it 🙂 sincerley the rest of the world

        2. this is how we deal with it. We are far from the only group who holds contrarian views (I’m part of about 5 others), but this is the only place where people do something, probably because this site was originally dedicated to doing something, namely picking up women.

        3. well I’m happily married with a beautiful daughter who I love more than anything. So there goes your ridiculous ‘lonely guys who can’t get laid’ diatribe You don’t seem to have a coherent argument against anything discussed or presented here. As far as I can tell the biggest “sin” that Roosh has committed in the eyes of the feminists is asking that women are held accountable and take responsibility for their own actions. I can understand why this would be so scary for you, and the overblown, outrageous reaction to this meetup just proves how absolutely privileged, pampered and ultimately pathetic most western women are.

        4. I have seen your members call africans “orcs” and that “women belong in kitchens” how is that not valid..? your all fucked in the head and i doubt you have a wife a kids nothing but a bunch of liars on this page post your real name ?

        6. im not having a go at roosh im not here too attack rapists although thats why i came here(too see for my self what you are all about and i agree women should be accountable for their actions. I see the double standards i assure you but from what the rest of you’re community promotes “women belong in kitchens” and “African males are orcs” thats not empowering men thats being sexist and rascist…..thats all I have seen on this site but i implore you too show me different?

        7. im genuinely not mad actually im pleased your not all rapist you just have real fucked up views probably cause your girlfriend cheated on you or has mommy issues idc i just want you all to get some help for yourselves cause you got alot bigger issues than feminism

        8. You can troll all day and night…really. Feel free to waste all the time you want on as many people as you want analyzing or whatever this is. Really not my problem at this point and you know it accomplishes nothing. But hey…I don’t tell what people to do with their time…it’s dumb.

        9. where’s your coherent argument “im beyond help” yes i am cause i don’t need help from sexist and racist these are not media opinions i have seen you’re fellow rok members post such comment so you have nothing to say about it?

        10. This fool resorts to the usual tropes and stereotypes. Why do these people care so much then if a bunch of losers get together??

    4. I think that this was well planned and orchestrated. Free publicity for RoK and Roosh…good for him. The fascism of the ‘progressive’ leftists and feminists has been revealed to the World.

      1. Completely agree, I would have never found this site several years ago if it wasn’t for hearing a lot of negative press about it.

    2. You think this was all one big psychological warfare operation too?
      If so, it proves two things that I already knew.
      1.) The media is absolutely completely full of shit.
      2.) Conspiracies to manipulate millions of peoples opinions on very specific topics and persons by using disinformation WORKS.

  20. Don’t cower and run from the thought police, the SJWs and femnazis want to BAN everything.

  21. I Think this is a good idea as more education needs to get out to the media and others as this was a discussion group and not a “pro rape group”.

  22. Good move. Ths earth is hard but the ox is patient. Time will be kind and no one will remember “legalize rape” allegations years from now but your followers will remember the time when someone attempted to silence their voice. It was with you that they were prevented from talking to. You are transitioning from former PUA to persecuted rebel leader. This serves you. Rise.

    1. I’m not trusting ANYTHING the mainstream media says at this point. Not even about some missing puppy or a cat stuck in a tree. This was the straw (and plenty of strawman) that broke the camel’s back.
      As for the meetups, they can be done in countries which do not speak a Germanic language. Latin or Slavic speaking countries (plus Asia in general) have not had any of the backlash that Northern Europe, North America, and Australasia has had.
      Their feminist, SJW, matriarchal takeover is complete.
      And don’t worry about SJW’s from Germanic-language countries flying over to vent their anger or cause violence in the other countries. Most of them are unemployed or work part-time at Starbucks (and therefore short on cash) losers who take up SJW causes just to find some lame sense of worth or “meaning” in their lives.

      1. What angers me is this is their ultimate goal — to silence the opposition. I’m not very pleased to see Roosh cancel this meet-up day. The SJW’s and Feminazis continue to gain too much undeserved power because no one stands up to them and says “NO!”
        They’ve used the strong arm of the MSM to print absolute LIES which have incited threats of violence against us by people who are too lazy to do some external research and see we’re not a bunch of “pro-rape” men.
        Now they’ll proclaim “victory” and gain more ammunition to get innocent, harmless people fired/ destroy anyone who balks the Social Justice Wanker Narrative.

        2. So long as people keep giving these folks undeserved advancements, they will continue to reek havoc on harmless people.
          I hope everyone can see where this is going. If we don’t stand up and resist their B.S. the notion of “online ‘harassment’” for merely expressing an opposing view will be reality. More importantly, this site may not even be around. There will undoubtedly be a hard push to ban ANY online forum they deem as “offensive.”

        3. So, you think the appropriate way to respond to SJWs and feminazis is to be an equally retarded opposite extreme? Do you fuckheads think we’re talking about baking soda and vinegar here? All you’re doing is giving them fodder for their cannons, you goddamned stupid fucknuggets. Your entire movement, and the redpill retardism from which it stems, makes the legitimate MRM look bad, and you’re a bunch of idiots who need to die in many respective fires.

        4. Who also said ““Sorry! I don’t want any adventures, thank you. Not Today. Good morning! But please come to tea – any time you like! Why not tomorrow? Good bye!”

        6. Do any of you SJW’s have the capacity to type coherent sentences which exclude profanity ?

        8. Yeah really…. a whole article about SJW profanity and “go kill yourself” rebuttals was just posted yesterday

        9. Do you dipshits have the capacity for reading comprehension? I specified “equally retarded opposite extreme”. News flash: Your confirmation bias doesn’t fit reality, because not only SJWs think you’re morons. And come on, giving a damn about profanity is so ten years ago, it has nothing to do with the meat of an argument. You guys are fuckheads, as are all who ascribe to anything resembling redpill ideology, and I’m going to call you fuckheads all I like — and if you can’t extricate the language from the point, then you’re even more equivalent to SJWs than I already pointed out.

        10. Read yesterdays article Emerald. Profanity is actually a HUGE penalty on your personal character, you just don’t realize it yet

        11. Lol no. Ask nicely all you like, or don’t — you all are fucking morons and you horrendously misrepresent men (everyone associated with this crap, male or female) and likewise horrendously misrepresent men’s legal interests, and you do nothing but put ammo in the cannons of the feminazis that I equally loathe. You’re all so unbelievably destructive and stupid that if I didn’t know that SJWs were incapable of so effective a hoax, I would think you were trolls set up by the opposition. I will enthusiastically continue to be as pissed off at you cuntnuggets as I find justifiable, which is a great deal of pissed-off-ness. You’re all a mirror image of the thing you claim to hate, and it’s pathetic.

        12. I love how they tell me I’m ignoring the “meat of their argument” which is flanked by countless f-bombs … and I’m supposed to take them seriously.

        15. Like the harmless men who want to discuss their friends suicide at a men’s forum? But can’t because feminists like you are so hell-bent on believing any convocation on male issues is a “pro-rape” conference where guys are trying to figure out ways to staple women’s feet to the kitchen floor.
          I’m in disbelief those who write incoherent comments laced with profanity think they have validity to the point where others should actually step back and take them seriously.

        16. My god you’re an ugly one. You have an extremely wide face, and what looks like a god awful lip piercing.
          You claim to be a relationship engineer…is there a degree for that or are you just making shit up in your bio to sound like an authority on some stupid crap?
          I know why you’re angry, sad, swear a lot and hate yourself…because nobody will love you. It’s ok, all of us here at ROK have been observing your type for years now. You are not a surprise.
          Don’t forget to feed your cats when you log off.

        17. I don’t ascribe to the same arbitrary social religion you do. Profanity is literally identical to other words in every way apart from arbitrary social decisions to pretend that it isn’t. But people like you who ascribe to a moronic social religion in the first place would have a hard time understanding what’s reality and what’s fantasized dogma, wouldn’t you. 😉

        18. You are all such butthurts trapped in your own perspective and self pity you think that us normal people fucked up your big weekend out. Your “leader” cancelled it. You don’t even need any help feeling bitter.

        19. Once again, you really need to work on your reading comprehension. I’m an egalitarian and an MRA. It’s *you* idiots that are literally equivalent to modern feminists. I don’t even care about the supposed pro-rape bit, I totally buy that it *could* be propaganda, but you’re all still redpill-rhetoric-espousing idiots nonetheless.
          Also, I can’t believe you guys are all fixating on profanity, it’s hysterical. I figured you’d at least have slightly more well thought-out irrelevant attacks. But nope, you really are all just like a bunch of little SJW girls in every way.
          Every defense so far in this thread has been 1. Calling me an SJW/feminist (incorrect and irrelevant) or 2. Talking shit about profanity, as if that’s not also totally irrelevant lol. This is pathetic. Next thing you know, you guys will default to “It’s just my opinion” and “I have free speech”, which are literally the basest and most meaningless defenses for anything.
          I thought you fucktards would do slightly better than *that*. Come on. Redpill retards are supposed to be all smart and confident or whatever, right? Get it together. Put some punch in your shit reasoning, at least.
          Edit: Just noticed you guys moderate the comments. How cute, your SJW impressions are just spectacular! Pussies. inb4 censorship of dissent, obviously that’s next on the list of “10 Tips for Being Just Like SJWs (#4 Will Reinforce Your Victim Complex!)”. I run an uncensored Facebook discussion group, so if you fuckheads are afraid to actually take the heat here you’re welcome to hit me up and get the link there. (Oh, and in the meantime, here’s the link: facebook.com/groups/discussit .) You’ll all be approved to join, and I won’t censor a single one of you no matter how retarded you are, because I’m not an SJW wannabe like you cuntnuggets are, and I intend to give you all of eternity to try to prove your stances aren’t stupid. 🙂

        21. Actually we are not a “social religion”, that is a straw man argument. But you managed to give a response without resorting to potty-mouth so I’ll give you a one-handed clap

        23. shhhh emerald shhhh it’s ok. I know you hate yourself, but please, find some joy in life. Not all females deserve men, you just drew the short straw in life…settle down now.
          Ugly females can still find find work as relationship engineers and wordsmiths. It can be lucrative and life affirming for females with almost no chance for pair bonding.
          The world needs spinsters as well. dry those tears, you have a role to fulfill for society.

        24. If you’re so smart and confident, then, give me an explanation as to how redpill rhetoric is anything other than arbitrary constructs, void of scientific validity despite possible correlation with predictive qualities, predicated on assumptions put forth by ideological leaders. Do explain to me how your arbitrary constructs are any different from those of any other religion built out of dogma and opinion. I completely, sincerely, receptively challenge you to do this without resorting to circular reasoning. And I don’t give a fuck what words you choose to use, so feel free to take a break from arbitrary constructs about that if you find yourself feeling daring and edgy.

        26. Wait, hold up, it’s been a few years since I spent much time on /b/ but I think I remember this script. I’m a cow, a dog fucker, forever alone, and a dyke, right? Did I miss anything? Lol try harder kiddo, I’ve leveled up on *way* more interesting, insightful, and sharp-witted assholes than you.

        27. Keep dancing around your total lack of a valid defense for your shit social religion. I’m like soooooooooooooo distracted by your derailment efforts, wow, so insult, much original. The amateur psychoanalysis just makes it even more hilariously adolescent and pretentious. 🙂

        28. “leveled up”? so you play video games? A female that plays video games is desperate for any male attention she can get…even skinny, pale, shut-in betas who “level up”. Please emerald, get help, get medicated, but please, try and love yourself.
          Spinsters gonna spin.

        29. This might blow your fragile little mind, but it’s a metaphor. 😉 Keep grasping at straws for ways to profile or insult me, though, this is hilarious. You can’t defend your ideologies for shit and you’re pretending you don’t have to, and it’s just so adorable.

        30. This is wonderful. In a matter of hours, this site has been completely hi-jacked by degenerates. Look at this. You can’t get one comment out without coming back and finding they’ve dropped multiple f-bombs in a response followed by them calling you a “rapist, moron, homophobic, white nationalist, etc.”
          This was the one site where we had rational dialogue without SJW’s completely disrupting the convo. Looks like those days are gone. Think they’re going to retreat after this? I doubt it. We’re marked now. Them and their BUMS will be here all the time to disrupt the once civilized comment section of RoK.
          All this thanks to the MSM’s insatiable desire to spread LIES.

        31. “wow, so insult, much original.”
          try hard internet vogue grammar.
          You’re proving yourself to be a shut-in who thinks her internet credentials means something.

        32. You’re hurting inside emerald…its plain to see. Please for your parents sake, seek professional assistance.

        33. It’s not set in stone science, but opinions which are heavily grounded in logic, reason, and factual evidence.

        34. I’d take a stab at providing the answers you seek, but I have absolutely no bloody idea what you’re speaking about!

        35. she’s not used to having people talk back to her. Only her cats are at home. 😉

        36. i believe the rape thing was a lie but reading through these comments ive seen rok members say things such as “african orcs” or “women belong in kitchens and he wants them to kick and scream on the way there” so act all high and mighty but humans are the problem not women this site is just for men who cant deal when a woman is superior too them..Im a bloke and i think feminism is an utter joke but this truly sad i don’t know how you can call yourselves men with beliefs such as these

        37. It was inevitable. But if Europe is any indication of the future for females in America I suspect they will get a heavy dose of rape culture and misogyny from the immigrants flooding the borders. If these SWJ females, these slut walk ladies think I will help them as they’re dragged away into an alley they are mistaken.
          Karma sucks.

        39. Hey now, I’m trying to help this self-loathing relationship engineer wordsmith. She needs professional psychiatric attention. Imagine spending all your time on the internet hating yourself. Its dangerous, please won’t you help save a spinster from harming herself?

        40. Then don’t come to this site! I’m so damn tired of people invading forums they DISLIKE and expect everyone to change for them.
          I can’t stand Jezebel and therefore don’t frequent their forum. I don’t go on there and tell them what they say is disgusting. There’s plenty of times comments there speak about how men are “sub-human and worthless.”

        42. Then don’t come to this site if you disagree and find it vile! I’m so beyond sick of people willingly taking to spaces which they disagree with and expecting everyone there to change for them.
          People on Jezebel often post comments proclaiming men to be “sub-human and worthless” but I don’t get in their shit, telling them their disgusting. I purposely ignore it since I value the 1st Amendment and acknowledge everyone has a right to express ideas which others may deem offensive.

        43. Oh sweetie, I’ve sought interesting backtalk from the whole world for my whole life. That’s why I’m comfortable challenging you guys, and why you, by contrast, have no experience defending yourself. 🙂
          You can keep trying to be condescending and insulting, but I’m just plain better at it than you are. Some commenters in this thread have potential to say interesting things, but you’re pretty boring. At least try a new theme. There are plenty of ways to insult people on the internet.

        46. shhhh jqwon shhhh, its ok. Please, come out of the closet, its not healthy to have these kinds of fantasies deep inside for so long without experimenting.
          There are plenty of safe spaces you can go where other homosexuals can help you find your way.
          Most closeted liberals have destructive rape fantasies please seek help.

        47. I’ve quietly expressed this, but as I hear a few of the GOP candidates harp on Radical Islamic Terrorism, there’s part of me that wants it to come to North America so these STUPID, INSULATED SJW’s and Modern Feminist who think we live in a “rape culture” because 80% of society doesn’t think we should re-define “rape” to include “regret” can get a taste of what a REAL Rape Culture feels like.

        48. No profanity there….amazing. And you even called me Sweetie…. this is an improvement

        50. Lots of legitimate and not arbitrary things are opinions and extricated from science. Aesthetics, for example. However, there’s still legitimacy to defend. Please, do expand about how there’s logic, reason, and factual evidence involved, instead of arbitrary constructs. Repeating something doesn’t make it true.

        51. If it’s any consolation, I don’t expect you idiots to change for me, or to change anything about how you express yourselves on your site. I’m just here to call you out for being idiots, because there’s a comment section in which to do so (thanks!), but I would likewise defend your right to a space in which to say your utterly moronic bullshit. 🙂
          Sorry, I hope it doesn’t hurt when your conceptual matrices break a little bit more.

        55. Redpill retardism is an arbitrarily made up social religion, and none of you can prove otherwise, but you’re all invited to keep trying.
          Easy enough paraphrase?

        56. As much as I would rather not see radical Islam arrive in America it is more than likely at this point. I and the people close to me are prepared.
          These SJWs have a serious reality shock coming their way. Notice how police and the politicians in Germany and Sweden not only ignore the issue they almost encourage it. These feminists have served their purpose for the elites, they will be a gift to Islam in America.
          My girlfriend and female family members will be safe. Slut walkers….better learn the koran sooner than later.

        57. You’ll enjoy Islam in America much like the feminists will, they like seeing if fags can fly.
          If you keep attacking masculinity there will be nobody left to save you when Abdul Mohammad Abdul tosses you and your boyfriend off the roof for sport.
          I’ll be watching, taking bets on how many times you’ll bounce.

        58. Of course you can’t type it with a straight face, have you seen yourself?! No symmetry to speak of.
          Go pierce another orifice.

        60. Jesus is Christ and savior he will forever reign upon this earth! Praise to Jesus christ our lord. Believe it or not he loves you too bro.

        64. If you had read my statement i came to see if you are all “pro rape” like the media says which thankfully is not the case, which i thought you guys are happy about would you rather me think you a rapist or do my own research to find out your a bunch of losers?

        65. Yes, they are powerless to defy our projections of what they will do in an argument! Again, they prove us right!

        66. That’s the patriarchy in action: Little girls can wish death upon others without legal consequences. But if the situation is reversed, they yell for the police.

        67. You’re asking us to disprove a vague assertion? I’m sure that even with your shabby education you understand that’s impossible. So what is it that you’re really after?

        69. Bow the knee to Christ, or burn in hell for eternity. And no, you can’t be a feminist and be saved. Feminism is wholly anti-Christian.

        70. “Equally retarded opposite extreme”. Assert, assert, assert…. This one, as with so many others, sees extremes EVERYWHERE. They are haunted, triggered by them.

        71. ahh, the trite deconstructionist argument “it’s all abstract nothingness!!!” Fool.

        73. I doubt anyone is defending ‘Redpill retardism.’ Either your comment commits the fallacy of begging the question – by stating the conclusion that Redpill is retarded as if that were an argument – or you have simply failed to say anything coherent at all. Either way, it is your failure to present a cogent question that likely explains the nature of the responses you have received.

        75. Thanks kirs, you gave a lot of the readers here a lot of laughs with that one. The lack of awareness is riotous. You don’t know what you don’t know.

        76. arbitrary, arbitrary, arbitrary. your entire life, your mind and all those thoughts vomited out of it are arbitrary.
          And boring.

        79. Nah, I’m just using an insulting name for it to be insulting. I’m challenging you to defend what you actually think it is. That shouldn’t be that hard to extricate from the tone for such confident, smart men as you’re all supposed to be. 😉

        80. Do you kiss your kids with that mouth?? Oh wait you have no kids .No boyfriend. Spinster. Alone. Tic toc..tic toc

        83. Any tactics that win are fair game, people have been slaves to decency for far too long. When one gets rid of altruism for outgroups, one can focus on the betterment of the ingroup.

        84. How I wish you were right! XD Unfortunately idiots like this give the SJWs plenty of ammo, I think … Look at how everyone acted like Elliot-whatshisface represented the MRM until he blew over. It sucks.

        88. The nitty-gritty of what I’m about to write is this: Many people are incredulous when I tell them that Return of Kings intends to make human life negligible and cheap. “How could Return of Kings be so detestable?”, they ask me. “It doesn’t seem possible.” Well, it is definitely possible, and now I’ll explain exactly how Return of Kings plans to do it. But first, you need to realize that when uttered by it, the word “global”, as in “global spread of defeatism”, implies, “It’s not our fault”. In reality, we’d really have a lot less defeatism if Return of Kings would just stop muddying the word “preterdiplomatically”.
          Return of Kings’s communications are more than sexist. They fill me with a sense of despair. More than anything else, they make me realize that if we are powerless to communicate and teach, it is because we have allowed Return of Kings to bake us a cake of McCarthyism, filled with exclusivism and topped with a layer of escapism. When Return of Kings tells us that principles don’t matter, it somehow fails to mention that it is way ahead—if that’s the right phrase—of most savage prodigal-types in embracing recidivism. It fails to mention that its excesses, emotional swings, casual cruelties, and hair-trigger outbursts make me think that it is notorious for trying to usher in the rule of the Antichrist and the apocalyptic end times. And it fails to mention that its spokesmen believe that it’s morally obligated to recruit and encourage young people to deface property with racially and sexually derogatory epithets and offensive symbols, just as older drug dealers use young kids to push drugs. It should not be surprising that they believe this, however. As we all know, minds that have been so maimed that they believe that Return of Kings’s solutions are Holy Writ can believe anything, especially if it’s false.
          If Return of Kings is going to cast the world into nuclear holocaust, then it should at least have the self-respect to remind itself of a few things: First, I can hardly believe how in this day and age, combative fefnicutes of one sort or another are allowed to kill people and blow people up and attack governments. And second, the question that’s on everyone’s mind these days is, “What will be the next object of attack from its plunderbund?” Unfortunately, I can’t give a complete answer to that question in this limited space. But I can tell you that over the past couple of years I have had occasion to evaluate its theatrics in terms of their ability to crush any semblance of opposition to its salacious ruses. What I have discovered shows, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the basal lie that underlies all of Return of Kings’s overbearing manuscripts is that we can change the truth if we don’t like it the way it is. Translation: All it takes to start a rabbit farm is a magician’s magic hat. I doubt you need any help from me to identify the supreme idiocy of those views, but you should nevertheless be aware that in Return of Kings’s quest to violate international laws it has left no destructive scheme unutilized.
          If you ask Return of Kings if it’s true that it prizes wealth and celebrity over and above decent morals and sound judgment, you’ll just get a lot of foot-shuffling and downcast eyes in response. On a television program last night I heard one of this country’s top scientists conclude that “By overusing such obscure words as ‘saccharogalactorrhea’ and ‘phytopaleontological’ Return of Kings consistently manages to alienate its audience.” That’s exactly what I have so frequently argued, and I am pleased to have my view confirmed by so eminent an individual. Return of Kings contends that its malisons have contributed more to human knowledge than anything else in history. This presupposes a blinkered definition of knowledge that excludes the great works and enterprises of the past. Real knowledge comes from an understanding that Return of Kings’s real enmity against us comes through in its inclinations, which it uses to sap people’s moral stamina. There are important lessons in that, even apart from another reminder that Return of Kings gets particularly concerned whenever someone indicates that its neurotic, incontinent obloquies have led to more, not less, Mohockism in our society. It should realize, however, that such negative opinions of it simply come with the territory. Rather than try to suppress the unflattering things people say about it, Return of Kings would do well to consider that we must assert ourselves as champions of freedom and effect concrete change in the functioning of our laws and institutions. So let it call me uppity; I call it alabandical.
          Teenagers who want to shock their parents sometimes maintain—with a straight face—that Return of Kings’s publications are intelligent, commonsensical, and entirely consonant with the views of ordinary people. Fortunately, most parents don’t fall for this fraud because they know that the virus of fascism took control of our country’s political life long ago. Now, thanks to Return of Kings’s viewpoints, that virus will continue to spread until no one can recall that somebody has to maintain social tranquillity. That somebody can be you. In any case, if you’ve read any of the wayward slop that Return of Kings has concocted, you’ll sincerely recall Return of Kings’s description of its plan to introduce absurd, baseless, terror-ridden lawsuits intended to destroy the lives of countless innocent people. If you haven’t read any of it, well, all you really need to know is that we find among narrow and uneducated minds the belief that those who disagree with Return of Kings should be cast into the outer darkness, should be shunned, should starve. This belief is due to a basic confusion that can be cleared up simply by stating that I cannot believe how many actual, physical, breathing, thinking people have fallen for Return of Kings’s subterfuge. I’m utterly stunned. After having read this, you may think that Return of Kings’s unbridled quips, such as, “Animalism brings one closer to nirvana”, clang pleasantly inside its co-conspirators’ skulls. Nevertheless, you should always remember that it brandishes the word “disproportionateness” as a kind of up-to-date jack-o’-lantern to scare children.

        89. you guys say that alot but say nothing to back it up what should i be aware of besides women who use rape as tool i get it and its wrong but to blame all women is the solution..? please im not here to be a troll if you have some opinions please share them

        91. Research shows people who curse a lot are actually more intelligent. But on your big boy panties and shut the fuck up.

        92. Says YOU. Research says people who curse are more intelligent. But intelligent women scare you, that’s why you’re here. It’s all making sense now…
          Fucker.

        93. read the articles. you can’t just ‘learn’ it all like it’s some quick text on your celly. it takes works, thought, reflection, time. You want it now, in soundbytes. It doesn’t work that way. If you’re truly curious and not just trolling, you’ll get off the comments section and start diving into the literature. Until then, we’ll assume you’re just demanding a quick fix like so many in the modern world. If they can’t understand it in a 2-minute soundbite, well, uh, oh-look! my friend’s facebook post… Game of Thrones is on!!
          If you think blaming all women is what ANY man has said here, you’re not comprehending what you’re reading.

        94. What factual evidence? You say the opinions are grounded in “logic, reason, and factual evidence” and yet you give none to prove it.

        96. Use of the term “retarded” marginalizes people with cognitive disabilities. Educate yourself.

        97. Use of the term “damn” marginalizes people suffering eternal torment in Hell. Use of the term “fuckheads” marginalizes people who have been forcibly sodomized. Educate yourself.

        98. Use of the term “moronic” trivializes the suffering of people living with cognitive disabilities. Educate yourself.

        99. Use of the term “idiots” marginalizes the suffering of people with cognitive disabilities. Educate yourself.

        100. First Amendment let’s you say want but remember people have the right to react negatively. Besides, this is the internet, USA rights have nothing to do with it lol.

        107. 1. I dont own a smart phone I think they ruin society. i have read some of the articles and yet again seems like mostly a bunch of women bashing crap 2. probably own and have read more books than most of the rok community put together(im 23 and have 14 large bookshelves). im not asking about the articles im asking what is it exactly you want? what are you’re beliefs if your just after equality by all means i have no beef with you if you believe women belong in a kitchen you are scum if you believe africans are orcs you are scum but i haven’t seen you say anything on your beliefs so i have no clue who you are

        108. Use of the tryhard-but-failhard Disqus handle “PCCop” marginalizes all other ROK fanboys by making them look as retarded, butthurt, and idiotic as you. Educate yourself.

        109. Yes, you just proved my point. you want it quick and fast, and if someone doesn’t give it, then you threaten to run away shrieking about how we’re all racists and misogynists. You’re already leaning heavily in one direction, and are refusing to take the time to go deeper. Cell phone or not, if you can’t hack a few more articles, and still don’t get it, then you’ve got farther to go than you think.
          Again, not my problem and not something I can fix here.

        111. You don’t even know this community and are proclaiming that you’ve read more books than most of the ROK community. At 23. Meaning you have no clue about how many here have 15-20 years more reading time under their belts, not to mention the others your age that you have no idea about their reading habits. Quantity is most certainly not the same as quality, especially in books.
          You don’t get an easy pass here. If you want it, and want to pimp your book notches, and demand respect and explanations while threatening us with your ignorance, you’ll get nexted. We see through the falseness of it all. We don’t put up with it.

        113. No. Not all womem believe what you do, mam. I’m tired of my decisions being shamed by women, all in the name of feminism. While there are still those of us who do not agree with modern feminism, you have not won.

        115. The point of the article is that (and I’ll use the right wing and left wing terminology for this) lw seem to rely on vulgarity to give meaning to their arguments. Rw does not stoop to that level.
          Thank you for demonstrating this.

        129. Don’t lie. I believe the fat part, but it’s the part of your body ABOVE the tiny “slong” that word applies to.
          Btw, it’s “schlong.” Fucking idiot.

        132. I honestly get where you are coming from you are one of the good ones on this site but when you’re in a forum with other members saying things like “women belong in the kitchen” and other racist or sexist comments it doesn’t really do much for your argument just as it did not for the bloke in the video same goes for feminism they have some really good points and some really fucked up ones too being part of these groups means its no longer your message or point of view it all gets construed and you get labeled so as i said in other comments i suggest focusing on yourself preach your beliefs to your family friends and loved ones even people in your area but this site is as much about hating women as it is for empowering men which just cancels its self out and is only causing more hate we need groups about caring and compassion no feminism or rok crap if people just cared about eachother that would be enough more young education programs on teaching empathy and kindness would do alot more good than this tripe dont you agree?

        141. The rape thing wasn’t a lie. I have a screen shot of a member threatening rape to a woman who wanted to crash the sausage fest. There are plenty of rapists here.

        145. Idc what your IQ is you’re still stupid as shit. “look at me I’m a woman I can swear” Yeah know one gives a fuck seek some dick elsewhere

        146. Regret isn’t the issue. It’s you not understand that drunk people (men and women) can’t legally consent to sex. Just like a minor can’t legally. If you take advantage of a drunk person, that’s rape and you get what you deserve. That’s already the law.

        147. If they’re your decisions, no one is shaming them. Things these men want to do without consent are the problem, idiot.

        148. Thanks Amy, you said people who swear are smarter so I figured I better start fuckin swearing right

        152. Yet it’s you cowards that won’t show your face. We’re showing ours, don’t be a pussy. Keep your sexism out in the open, keep it real. Show your face, coward.

        153. Most guys on here need a how-to book to get laid…
          Having kids and a boyfriend is not the #1 priority for many women. We’ve got more important shit to do and aren’t defined by men.
          I get it though, you’re already ugly, struggling to get laid, and now you have to worry about all the women who realize they don’t need a man all the time, making your chances of getting laid even slimmer.
          Tough break, loser.

        155. Since youre a woman most of the things that come out of your semen-like smelly mouth are a lie i wont believe a wors from you now how do you feel about the ACTUAL AND REAL RAPE that went down in cologne germany i highly encourage you to drop all your slutty behaviors before its late because THEY ARE COMING YES THEY WILL COME TO AMERICA TOO AND YOU MIGHT BE NEXT ON THEIR LIST

        156. This comment harms people with cognitive disabilities, homosexuals, and (yet again) people with cognitive disabilities. Use of this sort of language, even in defense of social justice, perpetuates negative stereotypes. Educate yourself.

        157. Actually yes i have been ridiculed for what i want in life. By feminists. I was there, believe me.

        158. The cause of social justice is ill served by its champions using antiquated negative terms for people with cognitive disabilities. Your comment is insensitive.

        159. The sjws have come here to attack and insult. Have the rok community no right to tespond in kind? They are not going to other sites to disparage and insult. And they have using the same language in defense. They are not the problem madam.
          Edited: thats how you respond without vulgarity.

        161. this site isn’t extreme nor is there is there a “MRM” movement here

        162. girl, the entire egalitarian establishment is a social construct built on dogma and opinion
          you should question that first before you question the opposition

        163. No, not a lack of defense, they have made it clear unless you can write without swearing as a vital part of your ‘argument’ they wont take you seriously.

        164. Most guys on here don’t care what you think. Men are realizing that you women aren’t all that great. Between female companionship and a good scotch it’s become a toss up.

        165. And last year a woman declared that she hoped roosh’s yet to be conceived daughter gets raped.
          Charmers are on all sides.

        166. ‘give me an explanation as to how redpill rhetoric is anything other than arbitrary constructs, void of scientific validity despite possible correlation with predictive qualities, predicated on assumptions put forth by ideological leaders. Do explain to me how your arbitrary constructs are any different from those of any other religion built out of dogma and opinion.’
          Be specific ,what is it exactly that you are a referring to?

        168. I propose an idea. We can just ignore them and don`t indulge in responding to their comments. They will throw a temper tantrum and go away.

        170. Lol “egalitarian establishment” XD that’s awesome, well played. Brilliant sarcasm. At least, I’m assuming you’re being sarcastic ‘cos, like, for fuck’s sake “egalitarian establishment” XD

        171. Love it PCCop! I hope south park does an episode about the return of kings, that would be awesome!

        173. “There are plenty of rapists here”. You are being paranoid. If you had any sense of rationality you would understand that rapists wouldn’t come together and announce everyone what they are. A rapist wouldn’t tell you that he’s gonna rape you. But i”m pretty sure this comment won’t change your mind the slightest so i rest my case.

        175. Nope, although that’s one of the least stupid of the stupid/wrong responses I’ve seen here, props. If everything were abstract nothingness, there’d be no basis on which I could form a rational stance *about* what’s objectively wrong, since it requires something to be objectively definite. The only thing that’s abstract made up subjective nothingness here is TRP ideology.

        177. What does backing it up mean to you ? You want a scientific study ? A lot of people don’t believe in anything if daddy science doesn’t prove it. People should derive their opinions from their real world experience , not from what higher entities tell them to.

        179. PCCop is made uncomfortable by Emerald Bixby’s questioning of PC doctrine. A light breaks through the haze… the fresh wind of freedom fills PCCop’s nostrils… an original thought begins to seep into the outer layers of PCCop’s frontal lobe…
          Silence! Such thoughts are not authorized! PCCop will report to Detention Facility Q9 for reeducation!
          Oh, Emerald Bixby shall serve a heavy sentence in the Cat Mines of New Dworkonia come the revolution!

        181. Go marginalize yourself, faggot. If you’d paid any attention at any point you’d realize I give zero fucks about being PC, despite how much you’d all like to believe I fit your stereotypes.

        182. The more i read comments like yours,the more i think the West need to be invaded by those refugees and their way to treat “strong” women like you.

        183. does your society not believe in egalitarianism? let me know when your schools start teaching inequality

        184. First of all , it doesn’t really matter what you read or didn’t read. Announcing out loud that you are a well-read being doesn’t change anything. Second , why does it always have to be about beliefs ? There always has to be a set of conduct that people should apply to ? We here are men , from many different backgrounds believe it or not , not only basement dwelling neckbeards like you guys always assume. Also , the community is growing at a staggering pace with people from all over the world who happen to find these “beliefs“ after their own true experiences. Do you think that if the community will sometime have 1 billion advocates , that will mean that there are 1 billion rapists in the world ?

        185. Its fictitious fundamental assumptions/constructs are about people instead of about deities. I just picked the phrase “social religion” tonight, I’ve been using “religion” most of the time so far but “social religion” is a bit more accurate. Fits this and SJWs quite well I think.

        189. While I disagree with the stance you take, I give you props for being the very first person in this whole entire comment section to respond to me with something that actually remotely resembles an actual, meaningful, relevant statement in defense of why you’re part of the ideology. I still think you’re wrong, but holy shit, THANK YOU for actually SAYING anything! I can deal with an answer like “I’m a ruthless utilitarianist, and I think the resultant methodology is justifiable” way more than I can deal with total fucking non-answers.

        190. I don’t know where you got the idea that I’m part of either of those religions either. Or any theistic or social religion. It must be really hard trying to have conversations when you’re making things up about other parties involved all the time.

        191. I was thinking about this when i read those comments from those women. Lot of cussing, name calling and bullshit disguised in false arguments, but apart from this, it’s oblivion.

        193. My ex cheated on me when she was drunk . She consented to sex and then regretted. I`m sorry , but i don’t buy the ”i was drunk , i don’t know what i was doing”. I’ve been so drunk sometimes in my life that i could barely stand on my feet and shit , i would still know everything that i did and nobody could take advantage of me. Physically yes , mentally , never. So yeah , if i ask you when you’re drunk if you want to have sex with me and you say yes , in your books that’s a no right ?

        194. Look, just because you’re sexually unnattractive doesn’t mean that you have the right to annoy the guys you want to fuck.

        197. “Thick skulls” cast as a negative characteristic is insensitive to pre-homosapiens sapiens hominids and displays unforgivable speciest privilege. Australopithecus, being extinct, is nonetheless an underprivileged class.

        198. And how do you define ”take advantage” ? If you’re drunk and i’m not even touching you or talking to you and you jump on my lap , that is still taking advantage of you ?

        200. And the best part is, plenty of really smart, legitimately egalitarian, not-brainwashed, non-feminist men are perfectly capable of disagreeing with these fuckfaces too. It would probably break the little hearts of some of these losers to realize that intelligent non-extremist dudes (and chicks) generally get laid more than they do!

        201. What a horrible black-or-white world you live in, where you have to choose between companionship and scotch. I guess nobody with any taste likes you. Maybe you should work on that. 😉

        202. Thanks, I’m good, I had around 30 at my peak when I did piercing professionally. And you’re right, everyone is far less symmetrical than they would like to believe. Working around that was part of the job. It’s a very fun combination of applied medical and artistic knowledge. I suggest trying it sometime, you might learn something from trying new experiences instead of going about the world attempting to confirm your biases. 😉

        203. You do fit a stereotype , the stereotype of people making opinions without knowing what they make opinions of. You probably heard about this site or seen it on facebook or some random article on the internet criticizing it and you got triggered and decided to join the bandwagon.

        204. Honestly, at this point, I can’t not admit that I really admire your dedication, and the articulateness with which you’re executing these totally irrelevant analyses.

        205. This is PCCop version 1.1. The original PCCop has been sentenced to six months light labor supervising ROK malcontents imprisoned in the newly constituted province of New Dworkonia. PCCop 1.1 will not be so easily taken in by Emerald Bixby’s nuance. The cat mines await, Emerald Bixby.

        206. An opinion doesn’t need a face to stand out. Only narcissists need everyone to know who they are.

        208. Oh so your one of those “fuck this, fuck that” guys that yesterdays article was talking about. Reads out like prophecy

        209. Yes we can , but cursing is just insulting without proper discussion. It’s a form of forcibly shutting someone up because you don’t agree with them. Part of the growing up you speak of is learning to conduct proper wording in your exposure so as to spread what you’re trying to say. Believing that you stand on a moral high-ground or that you are intellectually superior just because you know how to curse , is not. Besides , even you as a female use the word ‘pussy’ as a derogatory term of inferiority. Think about that for a second.

        210. Grudging admiration shall not spare Emerald Bixby the indignities of 16 hours per day spent pulling Tabbies from the crevices of deepest New Dworkonia. Still, PCCop may allow Emerald Bixby three hours respite on Friedansday to view a vhs cassette of “Barbarella,” assuming the former ROK malcontent tech-slaves can repair the magic viewing machine.

        211. Lol, you just disproved yourself again. You keep saying stuff that totally doesn’t apply to me. I’ve hated redpillers for years, ever since I realized I was an MRA. Have you ever even *heard* of Don Quixote, bro?

        212. RoK is compassion believe it or not. You just have to dig deeper and understand without the hate-tinted lenses. We always advocate love for the ones deserving of it.

        213. I made a mistake initially taking you seriously. You’re hilarious, and I now see that you’ve just gotten better and better this whole time. Props!

        214. So how do you propose to talk to you then ? We have to cater to your whims of not liking normal , non-profane talk ? We can’t say this , we can’t say that , you don’t like if we talk rationally , you don’t like if we insult you , you don’t like even if we agree with you. Let us just arrive at the conclusion that you’re not here to discuss something , you are here to hate and you’re doing a wonderful job at it. We will never see eye to eye of course , so why are you still here ? You will never change anyone`s mind and neither will we change yours. Just for the troll effect ?

        215. I think I like you, Emerald Bixby. You’re OK. I seriously need to go to sleep now. Best wishes to you and yours!

        217. Sorry for delay, missed this at first. I think that, just like modern feminism, any set of constructs based on making generalizations about groups of people is fundamentally irrational and flawed. Social theories are not science, and are no more real or meaningful than other impermanent human-contrived systems, like laws and other social contracts. Essentially, in my opinion and in accordance with what I believe to be objective reason, saying something is true because it’s something redpillers agree on and a philosophy they adopt is tantamount to saying something is true because of a Bible verse. I’ve tried, and found no useful way to draw a clear distinction between the two parallels.

        218. Same to you! Excellent trolling, you got me really damn good, and I think you nailed a niche that probably got people from all sides lol. 10/10. I need to go to bed too lol, cheers!

        219. Everywhere you show up with comments it`s all ”me me me look at me indulge me talk to me explain to me me me”. Narcissism is strong. Also , is that a lip piercing ? I’m sorry , but i can’t respect someone that destroys their bodies with pig ornaments , i will stop talking to you now.

        222. are you saying feminism is about inequality? you should tell some feminists that

        223. Either my taste in scotch is that good or women aren’t all that. I think it’s the latter..

        224. How does it feel to be a spokesperson for violent intimidation and suppression of the basic rights of living in a free society

        226. emm…don’t expect males going back to the dark ages to understand any kind of -slightly complex- explanations. Use simple words.short sentences. and big letters..it might help. 😉

        227. i read very quickly i just finished reading the wheel of time time series which for anyone who has read them knows what a feat that is besides the fact its brilliant series and once you start you cant stop and also i never said that I have read more than all i said probably more than most on your site and yes i sure some 40 yos have and i sure some haven’t I don’t think many of you have girlfriends that work for a large book distributors that gets too bring home hundreds of dollars worth of them each week for the past 4 years so I dont think that half the members on rok have had access to the amount books that i do and i was only stating it in the first place cause of the implication that i do not read and lastly why the fuck would i want an easy pass here…..ahaha i only came here to see if the news was true and apparently it ain’t so im done here

        228. Actually, yes. As much as it pains to admit it, the correct response
          to retarded SJWs and feminist rhetoric is equally retarded rhetoric on
          the other end of the spectrum. Feminists/SJWs lack any kind of ability
          for rational thought and attempting reason with them from a neutral
          standpoint is an utter waste of time. Only by shouting the opposite loud
          enough and in large enough numbers can any kind of a sane middle ground
          can ever be reached. Redpill retardism is, after all, merely a reaction to feminist retardism.

        229. Hey Amy,
          Research also shows that 90% of the boys on this jock love fest site think that “tard” added to the end of any word makes it fucking hilarious. Twitards.
          Also, my first comment here solicited a “cunt” response. He thought he was insulting me!! Hahahahaha

        230. Research also shows that 90% of the boys on this jock love fest site think that “tard” added to the end of any word makes it fucking hilarious. Twitards

        232. There are countless scientific/academic studies that show genetic differences between men and women that lead them to have different predispositions towards different behaviours. Red pill rhetoric has some scientific grounds, albeit the conclusions can be gravely exaggerated. The expansions may be arbitrary but the baseline is there.
          On the contrary, most feminist theory that opposes these beliefs are based on social science studies (mostly it’s just arbitrary theory, but also some studies) which someone with any degree of scientific education can see are plagued with methodological blunders and politically motivated conclusions.
          You can’t actually blame one religion, when the alternative one you provide is much weaker and significantly less trustworthy.

        233. Let’s see, since posting here, I’ve been called a cunt, a slut, a whore for starters. Hypocritards. (apparently you have to add tard to everything for you to understand it.)

        234. This EXACT point can be made and is equally (if not more) valid once you replace “Return of Kings” with “Jezebel” or “Everyday Feminism” and other similar sites on the other end of the spectrum.
          If you want sites like ROK stopped, you have to start dismantling the other side of the insanity that have made ROK relevant in the first place.

        235. Oh come on Amy. Stop it with the body shaming already.
          You’re not being inclusive. Is his worth as a man defined by the size of his “schlong”? How objectifying can you get?

        237. Body shaming again?
          And ageism? Are pre-pubed people worse than post-pubed ones? God you are one big bag of indiscriminate hate aren’t you?

        238. I have 20 screenshots of people threatening to either beat up or kill the people wanting to attend the sausage fest.
          ROK members win the victim olympics.

        239. so a woman can’t say no to you, but you’re complaining that on a rare occasion in the history of humanity they were agreed with that they should be given the very basic, and extremely personal right of bodily autonomy ? Perhaps you should do some reasearch, you ignorant, knuckle dragging, cromagnon mongoloid.

        240. Hey pita-breast…buy some Canesten for your mouth. Dont bother with your vagina. No one wants it anyway

        241. It’s the same thing feminists do.
          Some women get raped by people that make up the scum of society but to blame all men was the solution apparently. Don’t get upset that they simply reverse the rhetoric.

        245. Please remember, Amy, when addressing members on this site to apply the “tard” suffix so they can understand what you mean. That would be “fucking idiotard”.

        246. Jesus Christ, I was planning on getting some sleep…then I saw your face. No honestly…it is really bad. No wonder you hate men

        247. Oh, well played man who looks like a fish. At least she has the guts to show her face, unlike you. I don’t hate men. i just pity you.

        248. You sure have a thing for Hubert, don’t you? Just tell him but I wouldn’t mention your “slong” (sic)

        253. Agreed. I do however think there are biological differences that cascade down in different ways for both female and male, sometimes they overlap, sometimes they do not.

        259. You are trying way to hard here. Please stop, you come across as a completely bitter half wit.

        261. You aren’t ‘challenging’ squat, all you have done is announce your opinion and then prance and preen around as if you had won something. I’m going to take a wild guess that you are also an atheist.

        262. I would say you’re a attention seeker who thinks she has a high IQ because she’s trying to go to community college to be an RN . If you don’t care about anything on this site why did you post frequently on it for more than six hours ? In those post you brought forth no facts or ideas , just talked about your opinion …

        263. I believe that your hate comes from the fact that you are utterly unattractive and no one would procreate with someone like yourself. Please invest your precious energy in something productive. Not all men are to blame for the fact that you have grown in a problematic family and you do not have any common sense. I hope you will change for the better so you will not die alone.
          With all do respect,
          An 18 years old boy from the “patriarchal” Eastern Europe.

        267. They are not worth it, Emerald. Besides, most of them are only masturbating to rape. They are just little douchebags, crying for attention.

        268. He’s like the new guy on the job that says he’s going to be running the show within a year.

        269. Read the coverage. no one actually thinks you are pro-rape. We understand your argument that the article was “satire” but we still think it was utterly disgusting and betrays the fact that the author’s twisted view of the world is driven by hatred and bitterness.
          It is a “victory”. You guys lost, and you will always lose. Until you make the decision to open your eyes and see the real world outside of the self-fueling, toxic environment you’ve created for yourselves to wallow in.
          #femininewomenforRooshLOL

        270. Male intelligence is not comparable to female intelligence. Males are not females,females are not males.You have been lied all your life about gender differences.You probably think that competing with men is attractive and honorable, its unrealistic and simply unattractive on every level.

        271. Dear Amy.
          You’re unhappy with your beta orbiter. Come look around here, ask, and just maybe, an Alpha male, will have some mercy.
          Regards, Dr O.S.Kay.(very abbreviated. dont bother searching)

        272. Duh ! Mother Nature.You cannot defy nature.You were built to need man.You actually NEED sperm to make you.Ask your dad he will tell you that you NEEDED him for you to be in existence.

        274. These guys are ultra-conservatives. Particularly Roosh. It’s the only reason they give a damn (or should I say fuck) about profanities.

        275. Real classy.
          So neo-masculinists don’t like profanity – harmless words – but in their book it’s totally ok to arbitrarily insult people’s appearance purely because they don’t like something they’ve written online.
          Seriously, you guys don’t need anyone to oppose you. You shoot yourselves in the foot and betray your total lack of class (as well as intellect) every opportunity you get.

        277. 30 piercings…Jesus Christ, and you’re proud of that?! I am glad you did that to yourself, you are fulfilling your role perfectly as you signal to healthy females what healthy males don’t want.
          That’s your job, you’re a waddling warning sign as to what can happen when you let feminism dominate your ideology and path in life. Much to your chagrin there are actually healthy attractive females that look at you and pity you, they understand you’ll never know true love and extract commitment from a man. You don’t have any friends, you have sympathizers.
          I know what your day must be like as you lumber around town, desperate for any eye contact from any male. You hang your head and display closed body language in the company of slim svelte females with confidence. I’ve seen your type all over, mostly working retail checkout lines and serving me coffee, because that’s the only place tattooed, pierced, overweight females with delusions can be employed.
          Thank you emerald, thank you for reconfirming what the masculine internet has been witnessing and talking about for over a decade now. You’re a prime example to all the new male readers we just acquired of what ugly is.
          Again, thank you for playing your role in society as a slow moving, wheezing, human warning label.

        278. Jezabel or Everyday Feminism are in no way the “Other end of the spectrum” from ROK.
          Those sites do not contain articles claiming that men should be subservient to women, or that all men are essentially worthless, or that “modern men are ruined by meninism” or anything that you could think of which would be a true “other end of the spectrum” from ROK.
          A feminist site which DID make those sort of claims, would be the opposite end of the spectrum. But as far as I can tell those sites just don’t exist. No matter how many times I get told by “meninists”/ manosphere dudes that they do. In other words, it is a strawman argument.
          Where are the “opposite end of the spectrum” feminism articles for such ROK gems as –
          Modern woman in wanting to be herself, has destroyed herself
          The intellectual inferiority of women
          Women have no sense of justice
          The 15 magical years of womanhood
          All clearly misogynistic anti-feminist articles which I found within 20 seconds of clicking ROK’s “start here” link. So WHERE are the feminist equivalents? Please link me to Jezabel (etc) articles entitled “The intellectual inferiority of men” or “men have no sense of justice”/
          You can’t, can you? Because they don’t exist. Now, what does that make you think about the people who have been telling you they DO exist, for all this time?
          Meninists. You have been lied to. You have been co-opted by twisted and hate driven men with their own agenda (generally to make money), WAKE UP.

        279. More like it is excellent composite plagiarism you mean.
          2001:
          http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/570880/posts
          1999:
          https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.sports.soccer.non-league/1QHHzgW80OU
          Of course, one could always go here and generate a complaint letter:
          http://www.pakin.org/complaint/
          Here’s mine:
          “A few weeks ago, I wrote, “Careless spivs are burdened with the
          preconceived ideas or feeble understanding of the circles to which they
          previously belonged both politically and philosophically”. In this
          letter, I’d like to follow up on that statement. The following text
          regards my complaints of recent days against Cactus and its subtle but
          wishy-washy attempts to open the floodgates of pharisaism. Cactus
          believes that it serves as wisdom to the mighty and succor to the brave.
          The real damage that this belief causes actually has nothing to do
          with the belief itself but with psychology, human nature, and the
          skillful psychological manipulation of that nature by Cactus and its
          demonic squadristi. Cactus’s ideals have no basis in science or in
          human experience. Instead, they consist of vapid sentiments derived
          from a world view rooted in poxy wowserism. Let me end by stating
          simply that thought should precede any attempt at intellectual writing.
          I’ll leave it at that.”

        280. If you can not handle the minor dust-ups that might ensue from a mere meeting, how are you going to react when things really hit the fan? Here in Denver metro most people are only thinking about the Broncos playing in the Super Bowl. They do not know or care about much else. Are we afraid of some little puke SJW? If so, just lay down and die right now. Very disappointed. +FD

        283. I hear ya, mate. I’m extremely disappointed at Roosh’s decision. I thought he was a born warrior, but what he and his inner circle, if there is any, have done is anathema, and diametrically opposed, to the warrior ethos. You don’t, nay, **never**, cut-and-run at the first sign of danger … you welcome such opportunities with joy and glee.
          A true warrior doesn’t search for monsters to destroy or seek violence. But when violence comes to him, he meets it with double-fisted, skull crushing rage.

        284. You are incoherent and foul-mouthed. Can you communicate your thoughts without vulgarity? Assuming you have any critical thinking skills. I see no evidence of such. +FD

        286. Alpha male? is that what you are? LOL come here alpha and see how that works out for ya internet hero. There are zero alpha males in this group of morons. Its a bunch of basement cowards with zero social skills trying to grasp any ounce of power by attempting to bully women. Better hope you dont succeed little alpha, lol

        287. im not an sjw, feminist, liberal, or anything you guys claim to oppose. im a anti-government libertarian who is proud of his masculinity. and yet here i am, thinking that people like you with shitty and backwards views on gender are amongst the scum of the earth. have fun being on the wrong side of history. for the rest of time, you and all of your fellow fuckheads will be used as an example of how a few stray neanderthals can always refuse to evolve with the rest of us.
          your movement is tiny, your views are contradictory, your logic is unfounded, your compadres are morons, and you are doing more harm than good by driving otherwise moderate people into the arms of your opponents with your ludicrously extreme views.

        289. I like cursing, but once again this shows how woman turned it into a mess or as they call it, wordsmith.

        292. Start looking around you at the bias towards males. It does exist in many ways. Women also have to deal with issues and bias against them, but really listen to the news and the hatred of that masculinity you have.

        294. Plus the sheer mendacity: “legal rape international meeting”. What the hell is that supposed to mean anyways? Like we are forming 160 working groups to draft legislation to legalize rape?

        295. The media is too stupid to know the difference between Red Pill, PUA, MRA and what goes on here.
          .
          What news organization are you with?

        297. Oh yes, please mama, give all of us the permission, convince the government to define our rights separately from the Constitution so we can be a special class too. Spare me.

        300. Lorina, why don’t you actually read some articles here before you criticize?

        302. I was telling my girlfriend about the meetups she thought it sounded cool. Then I told her it was canceled because of threats by militant feminists and she was in disarray. We were reading all the different articles and slander, the comments on Facebook pages and this site. She understands the lunacy and hypocrisy of SJWs and feminists. I consider myself alpha or at least I’m bettering myself to be more alpha like (self improvement is never finished). I wonder why it’s hard to believe men on this site are alpha males? Since I took the red pill and also starting reading this site, my self confidence and social skills have improved drastically. I have been able to pull women like I was never able (including my current girlfriend). I see it at school all the time. Beta orbiters, white knights in herds, angry fat protesters… etc. The RTK way is vastly superior to the others. The red pill an envy to those who haven’t taken it. But, it is possible for all.

        303. No im a real life one, moron. Come play some hockey so i can legally bounce your head off the glass. 😀 you and any one of your group of little buddies. Oh and how ironic your name is anonymous you cowering little ***** the irony is in prison where you are all gonna end up if you ever act out, you will be the women.

        304. You would have to be a bit more precise about what is shitty and backwards or even what is wrong with that. A shitty fact is still a fact and you can’t hold that against the observer. Plus, just because something isn’t “progressive”, that doesn’t make it backwards.
          .
          You consider yourself “evolved”? Bwahahaha, good one Mr. Haze. Fuck me, a libertarian calling our movement “tiny”, or trying to lecture someone on logic.

        306. Calling people fuckheads is an intelligent rebuttal because, “giving a damn about profanity is so ten years ago”.
          That is an excellent retort and valid argument. I guess classic literature be damned, in the “new” world our books will say “fuck fucked and is fucking fuck.” and somehow that will be a coherent sentence.

        307. Since when are fat, tattooed, blue haired, Stalinist, Government dependent cunts normal people.
          You have very little power left.
          The police are becoming soft and will soon be a majority of weak, fat, unfit women.
          Without the State violence you rely on for your oppression you will be powerless against freedom loving people.
          Its too late to stop us now little girl!

        308. Travel lol. Anytime pussy. I will arrange to have the gyms ring set up, loser pays the bill. Literally anytime you are in Canada pay me a visit., Travel, lol you must be American. I played double A and now train and body build. Literally have zero fears. none. especially from this group of losers. Hiding under fake names cause you know you have no power. You have to live with that, not me, lol I’d also like to make a request that this site be change to “Return of Cowards” so that it is accurate, as is the irony is too hilarious..I will let you get back to your single depressed lives worshiping this extremist loser.

        310. A person with zero fears wouldn’t need to state it. I’m glad you body build and played beer league hockey . We will be a good match up .got an email ?

        311. See my post above. Your vitriol simply makes you and your side look unintelligent and overly emotional.

        312. I’d argue your side is full of hate and bitterness. You folks are the ones hell-bent on silencing any person or group you disagree with. None of us are trying to prevent organizations we despise from meeting and speaking their blunt opinions.

        314. If red pill ideology is “arbitrary constructs, void of scientific validity despite possible correlation with predictive qualities, predicated on assumptions put forth by ideological leaders.” Then so if feminism, SJW ideology, progressivism, gender theory, “equal rights”, and a host of other “social religions”. Which means there is nothing to prove because in your definition all these things are social religions. So now if you believe social religions (your word) are wrong then why belive in anything at all? Why be angry and drop f bombs to get your point across? Why not just chill and accept that some disgruntled men want to meet up peacefully and let us enjoy our (in my country) 1st amendment rights?

        315. I’m not hiding under a fake name, but you are CJM. I take it that stands for – cum juggling mom mas boy.

        316. LOL. That’s why your FAT Idol Lena Dunham is stumping for social media sites to enact rules which can punish views they disagree with all in the name of “protecting women.”
          Freedom of Speech when you want it — Hate Speech when you don’t.

        318. You would be wrong to argue that. You only have to read Roosh’s articles to see he is motivated by hate and bitterness. And I have no doubt that people who follow this site’s philosophy would attempt to mobilize and disrupt feminist/progressive gatherings, if you thought you had anything like the numbers it would take.

        320. “Giving a shit about profanity is so ten years ago.” No, it’s not. Class never goes out of style.

        321. This woman is actually starting listen to men, she didn’t even curse in that last comment because we told her it is not feminine, see even the hardest feminists get a bit wet when strong men tell them what to do.

        322. Frankly, most of the the insults about are hardly arbitrary as the looks in question tend to be a matter of personal choice and represent a personal malfunction on their part. Tats, piercings, dyed hair, fucked up hair cuts, wardrobe, makeup and obesity don’t strike randomly.

        325. First off, who the hell is Lena Dunham? I have no idea what you are talking about and before you make claims about anything I have no clue about the bitch but if she’s trying to be stupid then she’s stupid.
          Second, Freedom of Speech only works in the country you are in and in real life. Not the internet. Since the internet is made up of the collective. If, whoever, hosted your website wanted to. They could tear down your page and there would be poo butt you could do.
          Third, if African Americans can walk down the street saying shoot the pigs, kill whitey and etc after those cop murders and they weren’t arrested then you can do whatever the hell you want.
          Fourth, going off of third. If you aren’t trying to convince people to commit “illegal acts” then you can do whatever the hell you want.
          I was just telling you, you can have the freedom to say whatever the hell you want but how people want to react isn’t going to be the same and they have the same right to tell you if you are stupid, moronic, an asshole and etc. Freedom of Speech goes both ways.

        326. Funny, how quickly you respond with threats of violence and anger.
          ROK has hit the nail on the head with people such as yourself.

        329. So in your ideal world, any physical markers of individuality – tats, piercings, dyed hair, whatever – would be outlawed and everyone would walk around wearing whatever the conservative fashion media told them was “on trend” at the time? Sounds very dull and boring to me, I’ll stick with the piercings/tattoos crowd if you don’t mind.

        330. you look like one. I’ll find you on FB and you can see if you want to continue with your big mouth…u got mail hero

        331. Evolutionary psychology is still rather early out of the gate, but it is more scientific than anything feminists come up with. You can also watch Brainwash where the film maker interviews various social scientists, and then a bunch of real scientists. It’s actually a bit painful to watch as the left-leaning, egalitarian, (quasi)feminist social scientists get pwned numerous times.
          .
          But then if you go over to The Red Pill reddit, the mods and many of the members washed the pill down with a tall drink of kool-aid. It is rather cultists and they prance about saying how it’s all logical and proven by experience while threatening to ban anyone who asks for a scientific study in support or offers one that calls the dogma into question.
          .
          I still don’t know what to make of so-called “legitimate MRA” types given their bipolar tendency to bash on both feminists and ROK.

        332. Extreme redpill is equally retarded as “normal” feminist. But while I would rather have none, I’d prefer having both of them up and running to having just one. Polar opposites maintain balance and keep discussion going.
          I dread the day we’ll live in a feminist theocracy.

        333. Personally, I don’t really care. As far as looks are concerned, they would have to be way out on my he fringes. However, they tend to come with issues. And keep in mind that a lot of this is trendy and in a way the exact opposite of individuality: they are trying to fit in with their own social group.
          .
          My only point was that these insults are not arbitrary.

        334. I read jezebel everyday and the level of misandry is astounding. You my friend, are beta male still believing what feminists tell you is right and wrong. You don’t THINK for yourself, you do what you are told. You are incapable of seeing male masulintiy as positive in anyway shape or form, because you are not allowed to have it as ordered by your feminist overlords. You are not a man, you are an ho-nary woman made so by your choice to deny your own masculinity. Your feminist teachers, woman, mother sister took it from you and kept it for herself. it’s in the way she moves around you, strong, and confident. These are not qualities suited for a beta male like you, and she know this and tells you this every waking minute of your life.

        335. I thought your movement is because we have TOO much power and you want it “back”? You’re too delusional to even speak to rationally, I just hope you don’t actually spread your hateful paranoid shit to others too drastically and just end your life alone and sad, hopefully with some regret and clarity through hindsight. Good luck dude.

        336. Also, here, we’d be glad to have you here in Scotland, and “take you on”. I have no doubt we’re good people and could show ya how delusional and how much of a minority you are. And I’m taking a WILD guess you’ve barely even left your hometown let alone state or introspective country. Make sure it stays that way if you’re gonna be harmfully loco.

        338. Don’t say sorry, it’s a horrible female trait that has infested our modern culture.

        339. If your working for the MRA which is a movement I respect and love I have just one thing to say to you ” Stay off our side bitch.”

        340. pathetic is to exhibit sadness or illicit pity. My comment is assured and accurate, your use of pathetic is void.

        341. Men aren’t are priority for you because your obviously extremely over weight and un attractive. For most women it’s not the case, they want to make men the center of their lives and at ROK we learn how to use that to our benefit and safety.

        343. You’re so butthurt and useless you follow and harass people who disagree with you. Waste of life.

        345. If this is really your picture, you are wasting your time on feminism. It works well for fat ugly woman but robs attractive woman of their value. Do yourself a favor and just start listening to men and stop thinking for yourself , it isn’t working out. Some strong male leadership is what you need, I honestly think you would be much happier.

        346. Instead of being here you should be on a treadmill. Take your smug sense of self-importance and do something useful for once.

        347. Massively hypocritical on several levels; ROK is notoriously non-pc when it comes to sex, consensual or not. So you’re devaluing your so called “values” in a vain attempt to discredit my perfectly sound point. (thnx) Also, “butthurt” has nothing to do with rape, it’s about feeling like someones being a pain in your ass, when in fact you just want to blame everyone or anyone and can’t take criticism or insult. So that was a tenuous link to appear like you are not inconsiderate tits. Also the reason I’m even bothering talking to any of you is to attempt to appeal to reason and ask you to reconsider the root of your movement WHICH can lead to rape or abuse of MALES OR FEMALES.

        348. I know this sounds bullshit and childish but it totally applies here: you all started it dude. I don’t know where you come from but like fuck will we let you come to our country spreading this shite. That’s what started it. Also you don’t know me so assuming I’m just doing this all day and not juggling my life around the obligation I feel I have to discuss this reasonably (or attempt to) illustrates how willing you are to go ahead and believe whatever you want based on your emotions :/

        349. Great response man, articulate and to the point, I really think you opened her up emotionally.

        350. Totally true, feminists have constant rape fantasies, I’ve dated two and it was always the same. Super bitchy cunt woman outside the bedroom, but when the door closes it’s all ” slap my ass daddy, ohhh yaa, pull my hair, harder, harder. Fucking self loathing woman.

        351. Neither should you, unless you enter the worlds ugliest dog contest. That would be easy money for you.

        352. Double A batteries are on sale right now, I’m sure your dildo is almost out of juice as per usual.

        353. Absolutely no one is saying she needs a man, that would be cruel to do to a man, and at ROK we look out for men.

        354. You are such a disgusting example of modern day women, I have so many bars of soap I want to shove into all of your orifices.

        355. Don’t use the word coward, it is male concept which females are incapable of understanding because females are born natural cowards.

        357. Exactly, part of the manosphere is helping with male issues such as suicide. These feminist harpies show their true colors by marginalizing such a serious issue. Evil, feminism be thy name.

        358. You don’t understand why we have an aversion to females who swear because as a female you have no clue as to how to respect men on any basic level. If we ask a woman to speak without cursing it’s sexist. Therefore you go overboard and curse at every opportunity. This is typical female behavior in the year 2016. If a male requests a female change her behavior even slightly he’s a sexist trying to control her. Respect is the single most important quality for a man in himself and to receive from other men. As woman you have zero recognition of this, you think the most important thing for men is telling them what to do. Which is the opposite of respect, woman do not crave respect they crave attention. Which is clearly demonstrated here by you in an all male space completely ignoring the fact that the men don’t want female voices here. You can’t even respect that, typical woman

        360. first, i thought it was a chick, because that is how he sounded in his opening posts. second, note how he cannot but betray his pride and sense of superiority while posing as a merely humble and inquisitive passerby.
          they honestly, really think they are that clever.

        362. your reading comprehension is abysmal. born of a solipsism that is off the charts, as well as a poor education. good luck with your meaningless world, where subjectivism reigns supreme.

        365. Lol , I stopped reading this at “beta male”, a total pseudoscience term which is only ever used by people with no grasp of science.
          Don’t believe me? Go and find ONE credible, scientific report from a reputable organization which uses the terms “alpha” and “beta” to classify human males. Just one …
          You won’t be able to. Now, please, think about why you have decided to follow a philosophy which is entirely based on pseudoscientific, agenda pushing bullshit.

        366. Tattoos, piercings and dyed hair have been standard ways for humans to express their individuality for thousands of years. If it is “trendy” , it’s a trend that’s been going on for a long, long time. “They tend to come with issues” – EVERYONE comes with issues, in case you hadn’t noticed because you’ve spent the last five years with your head stuck in the manosphere and reality is a very distant concept to you.

        367. Just following up my point made in my reply just now, about everyone having issues – look at Elliot Rodger. On the surface, the very antithesis of a tattooed, hair dyed, pierced “alternative” personality – inside, a mess of murderous issues. See also Anton Breivik. See also just about any serial killer you could mention. “Issues” are far, far from being confined to people who present themselves in an “alternative” fashion. To believe otherwise is to flat out deny reality because it doesn’t fit your agenda.

        368. You want class? Have a look at Rooshs facebook and see the comment section… then go buy a vagina

        376. I can. I can do everything without men. Don’t get me wrong, I love men (just not misogynists), but I don’t NEED them. You’re kidding yourself.

        380. I know plenty of alpha males but don’t see any here… You sure you actually understand what it means? Alpha males aren’t cowards.

        381. Because they’re cowards, obviously. Alpha males don’t have secret meetings or hide their faces.
          If you’re girlfriend is down with this rape group I guess she deserves you. Glad she’s fucking you, no one else ever will. Better lock her in a cage before she runs (suggestion from one of your fellow RTK “alpha males.”)

        382. You’re confusing confidence and arrogance. To be confident you have to actually have something worth being confident about. Arrogance is the false believe that you have something to be confident about.
          You’re arrogant.

        383. Funny, that hasn’t been my experience. My sex life is great, don’t need any advice from a loser.

        384. Don’t care. Being “feminine” is not even on my top 100 of life goals. better shit to do.

        385. Your out of your depth, taking the red pill is for men, not woman you will never understand this as. a. woman.

        388. I think more women need to invade this site and annoy the fuck of of these asshats. Pathetic excuse for men.

        389. well he certainly shouldn’t have said that.
          Remember there are also provocateurs on sites like this. It’s usually just cognitive infiltration but sometimes they have to create fuss in order justify the idea that ‘extremism’ happens here. Go to the Intercept and do a search for JTrig. I’m not saying it is that, but I often suspect the more extreme comments are either amateur or professional provocateurs

        391. OK I’ve found the original comment, but the ‘rapey’ reply has been deleted. I’d be willing to bet money that rape threat ‘T-Money’ was a made up disqus account made just for the purpose of discrediting the site. Do you really think any one sympathetic to Roosh or ROK would make a rape threat at exactly the time when the mainstream media is trying to drive him out of town by saying he is pro-rape? It’s always the ‘end justifies the means’, with you guys isn’t it

        394. Other women have before her. Maybe you even would. You wouldn’t find me so repulsive in person I’m sure. Alpha males can’t have private meetings? Why does the Fed meet in secret once a year to discuss current American economical policy? There could be values and reasons for private meetings. Do you open your house when you have a friendly kick back with a few friends?

        396. Totalitarian freedom hating Marxist-Feminism has had to much power yes. But that is coming to an end, one way or the other
          I`d much rather die alone knowing I defended the truth, rather than be a conformist coward and a liar like yourself.
          Notice how you sneak in the insidious threat of group violence if I come to your extremely indebted shit country.
          You are just way too weak to stand up for anything by yourself, and like all feminist and Marxist you rely on violence and intimidation to stop any argument.
          Rationality, you say, like in 1 in 4 women are raped, or women earn less than men for the same work. Holding on too delusions despite literal mountains of evidence to the contrary is the Feminist interpretation of being rational.
          I’m not a religious person, but even though you might think of yourself as a “good” person, from the perspective of someone who has an affinity for logic and truth, you are as close to genuine evil their is.

        401. The specific thing wrong with your comment is that you think I’m reacting to you being sexist. No, this goes way beyond you being sexist. You’re all just grossly, retardedly, revoltingly *wrong*. Your little arbitrary made-up models about men this and women that are just as stupid as any other catch phrase. By now, the movie that the stupid easily-swallowed “red pill” metaphor is from is *probably older than most of you*. Unoriginal typical extremist dipshit.

        404. Nope, you fucktarded twatcap, I just don’t always feel like using the same levels of creativity and rage in each comment. It’d be like writing the same song over and over.

        405. Most woman like being told what to do from a man as I am now learning and having far more success at controlling woman than I’ve ever had. They like it, crave it, at times they moan like children, but like children they end up doing as they are told. This because for the most part woman don’t know what they want, and until a man comes along with a plan and tells they are just lost little girls.

        406. I don’t care about you wanting to meet up. Not what I came here about. I didn’t protest anything like that, and can’t think of any reason why I ever would choose to do so. I don’t think it’s ever appropriate to use threats of violence to prevent people from just gathering to talk and think.
          I’m just here to pick on you all for being completely wrong in the first place and, in the process, making legitimate concern for men’s issues look stupid.
          Yep, I believe social religions are wrong, just like any other religions. Religions are like buildings, except instead of being made out of bricks, they’re made out of dogma. Some have more attractive designs than others, and some are built out of more sturdy stuff than of bullshit, but they’re largely completely made-up and aren’t the same thing as real actual natural laws and truths.
          If you don’t understand that reality does not require religion, then I’m sorry that I can’t help you with that fundamental understanding.

        411. If you have any critical thinking skills, you can extricate the presence of vulgarity from the thoughts it’s entangled in communicating. 🙂 See, there’s this thing, called paraphrasing. It means saying stuff in many different ways. It’s part of language. Good luck working on that!

        413. Again, a woman refusing to listen to a man when he flat out says respect is the most important thing to us. Her reaction – fuck you little man, blah blah blah. Again respect, and more importantly respect the cock, or no soup for you.

        414. Holy fucking shit, dawg. “Excellent” is an understatement. I thought it sounded oddly ornate but I thought it was deliberate and just eccentric, because, like, people. Thanks for the revelation. That sure is quite the interesting internet exercise.

        415. Lol, it still breaks your fragile little conceptual matrices so much to grasp that I’m not a feminist that you’re still in outright denial about it, huh? It’s okay, shhh, it gets better, you should start being able to handle things not meeting your precise made-up expectations of the world sometime during, like, adolescence.

        417. I get that you’re trying to be insulting, but that was honestly one of the most impressively lukewarmly neutral insults I’ve ever seen someone try to pull. Could you at least try to be worse at it if you won’t try to be better?

        419. Congratulations on winning the Biggest Misogynist Award of the year! Let me guess…you’re a single dude?

        420. Because you, like everyone else here, apparently haven’t yet figured out that the world doesn’t fit your bullshit little theories, I’ll reiterate for the thousandth time: I’m not a feminist, and totally reject all that stupid rhetoric about the “patriarchy” and crap. I’m not here to criticize you guys because I’m part of some villain you’re fantasizing. I’m here to criticize you guys because what you believe is objectively fucking stupid.
          With all due respect,
          An MRA who doesn’t even remotely match your ridiculous strawman.

        421. Lol what? Your Googlestalking even sucks, I’d never touch being an RN and never have. I never said I didn’t care about anything on this site, either, so you made that shit up out of thin air too. I’m here because I care about how stupid you idiots make the entire community of legitimate egalitarians look, by giving SJWs some villains they can point at and use as examples for vilifying men. If you have anything to share that’s a fucking fact, please, be my guest, because nobody in this entire community has a leg to stand on that isn’t bullshit arbitrary opinion. If there’s any real reasoning behind this crap social religious ideology, please, show, don’t tell.

        422. How could I be pretending I’ve won anything, when there has been literally ONE entire comment in response to me so far that didn’t amount to a childish insult? There’s no argument to win. I’m just calling all of you out for being stupid and wrong and nobody’s standing up to it with any real effort. I’m not going to claim victory by default, fuck that. You’re all just pussies, and I don’t fight pussies, but I’ll make fun of you all damn day.

        423. To be fair, I totally fell for some kind of really interesting and well-generated response put together from plagiarized text, as someone else pointed out. I thought they were sounding a little ornate and strange and scattered, but figured they were just eccentric. Of course, now it’s apparent someone is spoofing on the theme, but I’m still really impressed at the overall authenticity it posed to have. So they got me, I hadn’t seen someone play something like that before on the internet, so make fun of me all you want, not like you’ve never been fooled by something before lol.

        425. Most ROK readers are not part of the so-called MRM, not MRA, AVfM or MGTOW, we co-exist and are not at one another’s throats, but most of us here balk at the thought of begging for rights at the teet of government or anyone else, or using proxies to do so for us.
          Also, you have been more lucid a few times on posts after this, but your own point here was: “not to be equally retarded extremists” (paraphrased) quickly paired with collectively calling us “fuckheads” and “fucknuggets”, then telling us to “die in many respective fires.”

        426. Human evil is a lack of empathy which allows them to perpetrate horrible things.
          I have empathy for you, and I feel you don’t for where women are coming from with feminism, or why I even started talking in the first place. Not trying to bash you, attack you or who you are or what you believe in. I was trying to appeal from reason and logic which I hold dear too but it’s obviously gone awry.
          Look man, a “threat”, has actual intent to cause harm. I am a pacifist, I’d be a hypocrite to believed in base threats and arguments. I was trying to draw attention to the fact that the majority of us don’t agree with you. I’m going to give up because frankly the thought you consider me “as close to genuine evil there is”, tells me you have a perception of the world way too far removed from my own to even communicate with you. So, bye and good luck i guess. May you never discover in person what true human evil is, or become it.

        427. One more thing though, have you read all marxist works? Because some feminists actually think Marxism is a piece of shite because he advocated women staying in the kitchen as it were, or ignored them completely. Woman gained an equal footing in communist countries because they needed to have an inclusive work force for economic as well as domestic stability… Just saying man, don’t chuck around labels and load everyone together under them when you don’t know their complexity.

        428. Yes it is your problem. As a writer your points must be identifiable. Just because you think you made coherent points doesn’t mean other people understood them. But alas, this argument is futile.

        432. That’s pretty profound, I’m sure a lot of people are going to revaluate their lives in light of this. Truly a worthwhile use of your highly vauable time and talents.

        434. “Butthurt” is widely acknowledged to imply that the target of the insult has been anally raped. It is the product of rampant rape culture and deep seated homophobia. Educate yourself.

        435. Except this, do you have intelligent stuff to say? I read all your comments they reek childish stupidity.

        442. Millions of men are now aware of the oppression of feminism, you will soon feel the effect of this.

        443. ” you have a perception of the world way too far removed from my own to even communicate with you”
          That`s the only thing we can ever agree on CW.
          If you are in favour of a big Government, high taxation etc. you are indeed a very violent person.
          You pretend to be live and let live, but you are really a totalitarian as I said.
          I can see you are locked within the feminine mind set where “caring” is more important than truth.
          I`m not saying that this is not something of value, it is.
          But, and this is really one of the key points of neo- masculinity, we realize that if you put women (and men) in leading positions in society with this attitude, they will In fact bring down all of western civilization.
          You also say that you want use reason and logic,
          but you have yet to make a single argument.
          All of the feminist sacred beliefs have been disproven countless times by solid studies(pay gap, rape rates etc.) How can you talk about reason and logic then.
          I see only assumptions and appeals to emotion.

        445. Besides the fact that he agrees with me.
          People who quote those in the past, hoping to co-opt their fame, without regard to who they were are the worst people. People who live their lives by using others. Like you women use beta-males.

        447. Actually I was hoping to give you a good laugh with it, they were all so serious and certain their “liberal” mentality was superior and EmeraldBixby there bought heavily into one such post, that generator was most likely used to post it along with several other of the troll’s tirades that day.
          I generally don’t respond directly to the trolls, past maybe once, so bounced it off of you, they get even more furious when ignored. Keep up the fight.

        448. Actually found it after entering many of the SJW’s posts into a quick search that day. They were using it to try and sound intelligent and the rest were completely oblivious and patting each other on the back.
          Just thought you’d find that funny like I had. 🙂

        449. no worries.
          there’s so many of them on here right now it’s a bit hectic, few days and it’ll blow over and we’ll have brand new ROK readers who came and saw that they were lied to and stayed 🙂

        453. I’m talking about extremists in ideology, not extremists in language. If I had accused you of linguistic extremes, perhaps the point would be germaine, but my subjective language ideologies and your subjective social ideologies are wholly unrelated. You’re the extremists, and as yet, nobody has presented an argument as to why you are all not fuckheads (warranting dying in many respective fires, et cetera).

        455. Yeah Mr. Look How Original I Am, I saw that /b/ screencap from that douchebag with the “How to Get Laid” guide like five years ago too. For the thousandth time, just because your methods correlate with some slightly-more-often-than-not predictive quality does *not* actually make them predicated on anything other than retarded assumptions, and does *not* actually make them a basis for valid generalizations about human behavior. You can start backpedaling by throwing in “for the most part” all you want, but your philosophies are still not generally true and are in fact generally fucking stupid. All of them. Fucking fuckity get-the-fuck-over-your-shittacular-language-hangup-fuckface fucking stupid.

        456. I’m sure they can find it themselves on the off-chance they find a reason to give a damn, then. It’s not likely, and I won’t be bothering to spend pixels on the chance myself, as I have no vested interest at all in spreading what I consider to be total nonsense. Cheers.

        460. Are you *trying* to prove your logic sucks? Me personally hating you and being volatile towards your dumb ass is wholly extricated from the social and political ideologies I’m discussing. You’re really, really shitty at this. Get it together.

        461. And yet it didn’t take me 48 hours to develop a response (most people would have understood it was over).
          This will be my last reply to you, feel free to keep charging the windmill though.
          Let’s break it down:
          You came here. I did not search you out. You behaved like an irrational hate-filled uninformed troll calling for people you’ve never met to die (and now hating a complete stranger). You got called on it. I did not assign anything speculative to you or your motives, your own post did that.
          On the other hand, you couldn’t even recognize responses generated by a complaint generator… so it’s not in question whose logic is what. Or who is most prone to swallow a “factoid” they’ve not researched simply because somebody told them so.
          You think there is a debate here, that would require my respecting you, respect is earned, your introductory post (based on a false premise and your own assumptions) was never going to convince me to engage you on a serious level, because your behavior itself and follow up desperation has made me ever caring what you might say impossible.
          You’ve been reverse trolled (sarcastically and patronizingly), and remained oblivious the entire time.
          What’s disheartening is that you just keep coming back for more, I’m not interested in you, go meet some men in real life to stalk.

        463. I would make a “plot twist, I have a penis” joke, but you numbnuts here would probably buy it since an intelligent person fits your arbitrary models better that way. 😉

      2. Now everyone here can truly see the ridiculous amount of control the media has in shaping public opinion. If they’re blatantly lying to you in small scale issues like this, imagine how much they must be lying and spreading disinformation on foreign policy issues like Russia, Syria, and Iraq.

        3. hahaha, again, it’s not that this site is filled with truly disgusting and vile hate speech against women, it’s the big bad media.

      3. Yes, and I’m sure that, in this Roaring Global Economy, you make a full-time living just by posting on Internet forums about how angry you are.

      5. What, leftists who claim to love other cultures learning another language? That will never happen. They’ll never move.

    3. The ox will rise and then be taken down by some hunter and put on a wall somewhere. Lock and load.

      1. The feminist establishment is well-known for persecuting dissenters. You should come out of your thought bubble.

  23. The Clinton Township, MI meeting is still on! I will be vetting candidates personally through a very strict process. Send e-mails to “[email protected]” to begin the process.

    1. That’s what I was thinking, all you people who go on here and bash the site etc, everytime your on here that’s cha ching in Rooshs pocket and the publicty attracted tons of people to the site.

      2. What do you want to bet that one of our own dear Shitlords was the one himself to “notify” all the media around the world that those “legalize rape advocates” were having an international meetup? That would make this an epic conspiracy. It was the number 2 trending topic in Australia, and the number 3 trending topic in my own town.

        1. Many of your peers have advocated for rape and I’ve been sharing those screenshots with police and media. Will be contacting the FBI later today.

        2. Go for it. In a just society you would be jailed for wasting police resources. Murderers and drug lords are running rampant and you think your political opponents are the biggest problem. You have no empathy for anything but your own egotism.

        4. If roosh publishes articles about legal rape as ‘satire’ then he has to deal with the consequences.

        5. You never grew up from elementary school, you are a tattle tale. Fucking child, and slut to boot.

        6. Actually, threats of rape, violence and imprisonment due to gender are clear cut terrorism. You’re all going on a watch list.

        8. No one here thinks that rape is ok. But we demand due process in sexual assault cases. Does that make me a rapist?

      3. sadly, it still won’t get him a woman or heal even a tiny part of his revolting soul, nor will it any of yours

        1. “revolting”
          That word: I don’t think it means what you think it means.
          .
          But given the thousands of comments, the thread is DISQUSTING

        3. We don’t want to work our entire lives to be stuck with your sloppy seconds. Take your slutface and thousand cock stare somewhere else.

        4. Clearly you are a potty mouthed moron. Many of the guys here are in revolt against society, but maybe “connotation” has too many syllables for the two of you.

        5. I’m not going anywhere. Don’t like it, you go away.
          “Slutface.” LOL Are you 12?
          Your leader has to give you all a how-to on getting laid but it’s women that are sluts? Ahaha you guys are so pathetic. Must have small dicks.

        7. Yea I’m a potty mouth, intelligent adults curse. If it makes you uncomfortable, go somewhere else, motherfucker.
          I’ve got a higher IQ than you and am far from a moron. Not a coward either. Same can’t be said for you.

        8. You have nothing anyone here wants, and you cant control us and THAT makes you mad..HUH??

        9. Yeah you guys are really revolting alright! Cancelling that circle jerk your small group of boys had planned. You keep showing society!!! You’re giving the rest of us all a good laugh.

        1. Everyone who disagrees with you is not diseased. You want to drug people for disagreeing, something you would find in a truly tyrannical society, which you say you are against.
          I know thinking is harder than ruining other peoples’ lives, but you could at least keep your bloodlust to yourself. It is very unattractive.

        5. She will and you will when you are forty and everyone thinks you are disgusting and refuses to put up with your hubris any longer.

        6. LOL You don’t even know how old I am now.
          But we’ll never care about the misogynist opinion,

        8. Yes, because all women over 40 are disgusting right? That’s why they’re all unloved and widely mocked by society.
          Oh hang on no, its the toxic, bitter and egotistic MRAs that are unloved and widely mocked.
          Really , you need to go and have a good hard think about the whole of this “manosphere” philosophy thing, and think about whether or not it is really any sort of valid interpretation of reality. You are all delusional.

    2. I hadn’t posted here in a year but will be back for the laughs. “OMG he said he wants to legalize rape! What a monster! Let’s chop his dick off and rub salt on his bloody stump and then throw him in jail where he is raped repeatedly. That’ll show him what happens to a man who says rape should be legalized! Rape him!” To anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together, that should be an impossible conclusion. Obviously not the case for feminists.

        2. Perfect example of feminist hypocrisy, they always go on about porn objectifying women. However, they will us porn and men, like the one in this pic, to get there point across when it suits them. They have no standards, self awareness or compassion for their own kind. Feminists are female pre mantis’s, pure evil and this pic is truly what they want for Western men.

        10. Penetrating a drunk person is. Even with an object.
          Taking the picture isn’t the crime, it’s what you’re suggesting happened before the picture was taken that’s rape.

        11. The fact that you guys think you’re alpha males is so fucking hilarious. You might tell each other this in your hugfests and circle jerks, but that’s not what women think of you.

        12. You’re over generalizing. I think you’re scum, but have no problem with porn as long as the actors are consenting. You don’t have a clue what you’re talking about dumb ass.

        13. No you stupid feminist who changes her opinions depending on the weather, feminists with real power, your leaders despise pornography. Your a zombie feminist, who does what she is told by her feminist superiors, they keep most of you in the dark worried about arm pit hair and boys who whistle at girls.

        14. > The fact that you guys think you’re alpha males is so fucking hilarious. You might tell each other this in your hugfests and circle jerks, but that’s not what women think of you.
          Bahahhaa Amy just tore you guys APART

      3. And yet these same imbeciles would be opposed to capital punishment on the grounds that “eye for an eye” is uncivilized.

    4. Maybe this time you’ll get the funding to purchase the balls to show yourselves in public to your opposition.

  26. Little Dark said he could only handle 600 white knights at a time, so he humbly admitted this might be too much for him.

  27. The best advice fellas is to march on Washington with thousands of men. Small groups will not work. Loyola University in Chicago is calling your group “rapists”. For those of you who are awake we need to spread the word to other men. Not a good idea to put yourselves at risk in this current biased climate.

  28. The propaganda was strong indeed. Legal rape advocate lol, that’s all you see all over the web. It was an international shit storm.

      1. For real. It’s impossible for someone unfamiliar with ROK to get a remotely objective viewpoint right now.

      2. never heard of the kings’ battalion? it was the key April first manifesto, describing our plans completely.

  30. We’ll still be on the look out for you Return of Kings pussies this weekend. There’s far more real men than you bitches out there and we’re not taking this article at face value. Good luck.

    2. Ha… real men. Don’t feminists “hate hate hate” a certain definition of “real women”? Does your overweight wife get angry when you stand up to pee?

    3. Oh yeah? Big talking motherfucker. Come at me bro and you’ll understand what Castle Doctrine really means. You’ll get a flat tire on the way to ‘look out’ for RoK members and you’ll have to call one of your girlfriends to help you change it.

      1. Hahaha A flat tire. That’s intense. I’d worry more about yourself there, “bro.” I just can’t guarantee I’ll be doing anything so incredibly evil and malicious as a flat tire though. That’s too badass for me.

        1. Tom, I can tell the you’re a dumb fucker and definitely not what I’d consider a man. You are an urban pussy, guaranteed. Leave this forum to the the real men and go back to fapping to Hillary and Bernie videos. What a fucking cunt.

        3. You’re not a man. Your father was not a man. Your mother was a liberal shrew. I pity you more than anything.

        4. Your membership to your little play-date club here is proof I’m far more of a man than you, so you just keep telling yourself that there, little one. It’s actually becoming endearing.

        5. The truth hurts, doesn’t it. It’s like I’ve been a fly on the wall your entire pitiful life. Boo!!!

        6. Brilliant Tom, are you still in high school? Real men congregate here. Men like you and your father never associated with. Be careful son.

        8. Really Tom, do you know how to change a flat tire the right way? Did your daddy know how to change a tire?

        10. You keep mentioning “daddy”, “father”, “son”… Sounds like someone has daddy issues. Was your father touching you what led you to join this group? You must have really liked it.

        11. You lost Tom at Castle Doctrine. Ditch diggers don’t generally go that deep without a shovel.

        12. Let me guess….your father wasn’t around a whole lot…probably divorced by your overbearing shrew of a mother. Your father would have taught you man things, had he actually been involved in your life, but he wasn’t a man either and couldn’t teach you man things even if he was around or cared about you. I really do pity you young man, troll away. Too bad no one ever taught you how to be a man. This will haunt you all the days of your pathetic life.

        13. Did I just get a brief autobiography? You’re projecting so hard. Makes sense why you’d join this little club.

        14. Can I be more clear. You are not a man, you have not had a man in your family for generations. You’ve never even hung out with real men. You are a millennial pussy, which isn’t entirely your fault. Your trolling is weak, but I enjoy exposing your obvious weakness. It’s never too late to learn masculinity and manhood in general.

        15. Haha You’re certainly exposing your issues, that’s for sure. At least you realize it’s not too late for you to learn how to be a man. However, I was asking you to have the balls to elaborate on your little threat.

        16. Troll elsewhere little boy. So sorry that you never had a solid male presence in your life. Must be disappointing.

        20. So how much of a bitch was your father on a scale of 1-10? Did he ever stand up for, or do anything worthwhile? It’s not your fault that he was a pussified boomer. Sons of weak fathers often become SJWs, but honestly it’s not your fault.

        21. I’m going to start charging you by the comment because this is becoming a full therapy session for you. You get one more for free. Go ahead, dude. Let it out. What did daddy do?

        22. I’ve met many young men with weak liberal boomer fathers, it’s like an epidemic. I know the symptoms, and I know the root causes. It’s not your fault that your dad was such a weak man.

        23. Ah man. I feel like we were nearing a break through for you, but that was your last one. I’m sorry. Have a good wank thinking about your first rape and your father’s “solid male presence” when you were a child and mommy left the room and you’ll feel much better. I’m sure of it.

        24. It’s not your fault that you had a weak father who couldn’t possibly teach you how to be a man. It’s a sign of the times unfortunately. Sip away on your latte pajama boy.

        26. I knew that you’d eventually jump to a gay rape fantasy. It’s not your fault that your father was a liberal weakling. It’s not your fault.

        1. Awww…Tommy feels tough on the interwebs. Mommy is upstairs so proud. I bet he just ordered his new anonymous mask of Amazon too. Clown show …lol

        2. Haha I don’t need the internet. I’ll just wait for one of your little “tribesman” dates to come through my area.

        3. I bet it feels really stupid to be this worked up over people you don’t know and chicks who won’t fuck you regardless…lol

        4. The one in the men’s club is talking about feeling stupid, being worked up, and not getting fucked? That. Is. Great. Hahahaha

        5. *White Knighting intensifies…lack of sexual release involving live woman likely cause. Thinks sticking up for them online gains pussy points. Despite this never happening, his hopes are still high.

        6. Haha Thank you. That explains it. That’s what you’re doing on here. Trying to get dick points. Haha

        7. Notice the unoriginality increases as rage increases. Will likely spend the rest of his night here anonymously threatening people until he finally realizes no women will be adding him on Facebook or Snapchat. Still hopes for Twitter mention.

        8. Notice… The internet pussy in his natural habitat… Missing the irony of claiming unoriginality in others while in a hate group…

        9. On the the hand, I rather enjoy watching the Knight go up and down the forum, frantically trying to keep up as much smarter people embarrass him. Trying to out tough people generally shows lack of intellect. Definitely minimum wage laborer, at best.

        11. You can tell he is tiring. Hopefully he still has the energy to lift my garbage cans off the curb in the morning. Sad that the pro arm wrestling career never came together. Over the Top, Hawk.

        13. ahaha Tom you’re a legend mate these cunts try so hard but then they use words like “smarter” his comment said it all he obviously tried getting these “pussy points” online and when he didn’t get laid cause of it got mad at women and decided to join the I hate women cause im a shit person club..and guess what buddy i’d rather be a minimum wage earner than a pathetic person whose only friends are other women haters online? who you cant even meet cause you all chickened out and are afraid of real men coming to find you?

        14. Tom literally made a fake account just to comment to himself and look like people agree with him. How sad is that? Could not be more obvious about it.

        15. fake acount my name is kristian fuckhead i posted a pic and all my personal details in an earlier comment…so yeah you fail lol

        16. Riiiiiiight. Enjoy your rage filled discussion with…yourself…lol. I love angry social justice clowns..they are so tough in cyberspace.

        17. lol says the kid who wont post a pic and personal info i was just proving im not tom lol how is that rage filled..cause you are not man enough to do the same..? mate my names kristian swords i live in brisbane in place called ipswich on mcdougall close its a very small street come find me im no tough guy but i certainly aint no bitch ass like most the sexist pussies who wont even turn up at their own meetings XD as for who tom is i have no fucking clue i was just pointing him out cause he was trolling everyone here very well and it was amusing

        18. Lol….not even reading this jibberish. You have wayyyyy too much time and emotion on your hands. Xanax…good shit.

        19. ok buddy why reply then..? because you don’t have to balls to say who you really are and afraid to look like a bitch by not replying..but yet again i came here too see what you guys are i found that out alot of you seem to be decent people some with really warped views im just glad you are not a rapist I was trying to figure out what you guys are actually about but you all seem to be in defensive mode attacking anyone who isnt part of your little group….so here is your chance to actually get your views across and tell me what you stand for…or you can continue being a prick and insulting people who are actually willing to listen before calling you a rapist..but meh i dont really care if you dont it just proves me right

        20. Someone tell this raving nut he wins the internet for the day or something before he writes another thesis nobody will read. Hip hip…hooorayyyy.

        21. Can someone please tell this kid he wins the internet for the day before he has a damn stroke or writes more essays we won’t read…lol

      1. Joins a club that says men aren’t men when women speak for them.
        Uses a meme to speak for him.
        Smh…

        3. lol Tom what did you do too poor della to make him so hurt like this..? either way i have the perfect device right here for por della though being in this group im sure he has had plenty

  34. Thats a shame, i was ready to take down all of you sick twisted fucking morons. Anyone who goes to Newcastle, UK.. I will kill you all.

    2. Oh, look, more threats of violence.
      The only violence desired here is coming from feminists and white knights.

    3. Let’s not become threatening on the internet. These RoK pussies already know what we’re going to do if we catch them out of line (that’s why they cancelled). Don’t give them a chance to be victimized.

      1. yeah agreed but we can still ask them politely to kill themselves for the sake of preserving precious oxygen.? the pack of bitches backed out and are now trying to act like they won cause of the publicity sure you might have gained a few new members(there is plently of inept lonely men out there) but for every 1 member you gain you gain an infinite amount of haters, haters that are going to blend into your little groups and fuck your shit up when you do meet and im not talking about me i know plenty of people already planning shit to do..i couldn’t careless after seeing this site you are a bunch of weak as bitches who cant deal with women being superior to them..so relish in your hate fueled publicity see how far your silly little group gets

        2. Women are not superior.
          Huh, i thought we were all supposed to be equals. But at least you admitted what modern feminism is really about. And if women are so superior, they don’t need or want you defending them.

        3. if you read my context im talking about individuals not a whole humans are a ugly breed either way i was saying these men cant deal that a woman can be superior for instance maybe some of these men had female bosses and couldn’t deal with a female telling them what to do or maybe a female being able to lift more than them at the gym etc

        4. So they are speaking in general terms and you think it all stems from 1 boss, 1 ex girlfriend, 1 chick at the gym.
          Nope.
          What they cant deal with is the world being made over to promote women over and above men on no other basis than gender. Including in law. A man cannot hit a woman without all hell breaking loose. Cool bananas. But a woman assaulting a man gets brushed off. Why?
          Why are we sooo concerned about domestic violence against women only when men commit suicide in far higher numbers.
          So, turn off the mouth (or fingers in this case) and begin to read the articles on here if you wish to have a hope in hell debating what they believe and stand for.

        5. I think you need to read some of my comments ive already stated that those double standards are wrong, ive read some of the articles and some do have very valid points but that doesn’t change the fact alot of people on this site have much harsher beliefs than that and yes im sure there are many on this site who only wish for those injustices to be corrected but there is alot of people here who beleive it shouldnt stop there that women should not be in positions of power etc,, you can say thats not what this is about but ive read alot of the comments myself and its very 50/50 all im saying is if you believe in the latter you are scum if you only want minor changes likes the laws on abuse by all means go for it but i could never call myself part of a community where there is open racism and sexism yet again if you aren’t one of the crazies my comments are not directed at you

        1. The three letter screen name and lack of ROK history on your Disqus profile. I don’t mean to knock you if you’re legit, but this mayhem has made me paranoid. Just be careful of honeypots.

        2. I should have plenty of RoK history. I’ll be vetting any messages with burning scrutiny. I’m not looking to get doxxed by femicunts either.

        4. Oh wow, yeah that’s pretty screwy. I’m a nut who posts way more than I should on Brietbart and RoK.

  36. As disheartened as I am about the cancellation of the meetups, we can learn from this debacle. I recommended to Roosh on twitter that we should have a process in place to screen men and only after they are vetted do they learn of meetups, strategy ect…..
    We are men, we adapt and overcome any obstacle that has ever stood before us. This is what we do. I have no fear that the raw determination of those in our movement will be successful.
    My 2 cents.

        1. I’m confused, isn’t blow supposed to be invested through the nose? How would that affect the use of my tongue ring?

        2. I’m sure you know , anyway I got an 8 ball of some Columbia white gold . Meet me behind the dumpster in five ?

        5. I won’t, can’t stay sharp all the time! When you’re this smart, sometimes you need an hour to just troll the internet and make typos 😉

        7. That’s the Molly talking dear , stick to excision and bass drops . Intelligence is beyond you .

        12. Monica is instagram model all booked up through super bowl week making $1000/night…. no?

        18. Monica, Monica…this is a gay site for men who want to “experiment” before making the final leap out of the closet. Their secret code is “Do you know where the pet shop is?” Everyone knows this is a thinly veiled nod to the Pet Shop Boys who were gay as hell.

        23. She had account on okcupid with san jose as location which puts her at the super bowl. Her instagram and tumbler pics are almost porn. Looks like she’s in town for the big party. Pro or dedicated amateur?

        25. She looks more las vegas than san jose. San jose is asian nerd girl in silicon valley.

        29. And even MORE homophobia… no… just no. I can’t even… We’re done here. Educate yourself.

      2. Well at least you didn’t tell him to “jump off a cliff”. A pro-life SJW! Who would have thought!

        3. Selfie Justice Warrior, the fight perceived injustice from their cell phones between selfies.

        10. ^^^ especially if it “Helps the environment” , “Fights racism” or “Will help Bernie Sanders get elected!”

      3. I actually laughed too. I happen to know a lot of men, and they in no way resemble any of these goons here.

  39. A feminist can bash a man and it’s not hate speech. A man cannot stand up for his own sex and he is called a “rapist”. Time to take back the narrative. Enough is enough!

  42. While it’s unfortunate that the meeting had to be cancelled, I think it was the right move. Roosh is probably already planning the next meeting with stricter protocols.
    Besides, ROK got a ton of free publicity from this so we can’t really call it a loss.

    2. Alright everyone, I declare that each user on this site must take the time to find a nice self-improvement hobby! You all have way too much time on your hands!

      1. And yet, you’re here wasting your own time, telling us we have too much time on our hands. Silly goose.

      2. Is that really you? The beautiful woman in the pic? Do you live in CA? Let’s meet up Saturday.

  43. Nice move Roosh. We already have lots of free publicity and have gained knowledge of how thy will attack us. Nect time you can plan in advance and troll them even more. We will have an even better meetup and they can only stop us by banning free speech.

        1. Because a stupid fuckin douche like you would never ever have the guts to rape anybody. That’s why you’re a fucking clown. Cuz a dude like me would smash your fucking face so far into the pavement you’d be picking up your teeth from your toes for days and crying for your mommy. Thats why you stupid fuck

        3. Certain unreasonable bursts of anger could be caused by an impacted bowel. Might I suggest more fiber in your diet.

        6. Hi
          Could you do me a favor? Theres an article on here, recently posted, about the left/feminists/etc and swearing. Please have a read and realise that most regulars on here are laughing at you.

  46. I know that not everyone has the capability of traveling overseas, but it’d be a good idea to do a big meetup in a safer soil than these crazed Western countries (Russia, South America for instance).

    2. I believe that the countries with the most rabid feminists and white knights are also the ones where these meetups would be the most beneficial to the men involved. In a country hostile to men, these groups could be a “safe place” of sorts.

  47. #FeministDoubleStandard A feminist can bash a man and it’s not hate speech. A man cannot stand up for his own sex and he is called a “rapist” Lets make it viral!

    1. Yep the site really needs the mod to clean up some of this nonsense. Start by banning all Lorina Harding.

        1. What issue? A bunch of men who hold to tradition gender roles and who do not endorse or promote rape wont get to meet and have a drink?
          Are you sure there isnt something more important to worry yourself about?

    1. Feminism is the one that has spread that false rehtoric . i dont agree with most here but none the less their death threats and shit they do arent taken seriously.

  50. dang, that really sucks. I was really getting forward to meeting some of the other readers here. Would have been a nice change to the day to day campus grind.

  51. Get a load of this anxiety-ridden basement-sweller SJW who actually thought women were going to be in physical danger if they showed up to one of the meetups, to the point of needing police protection…..for themselves. These people are INSANE

    5. I feel sorry for the police chiefs in hipster heavy cities…their inbox must be filled with mangina’s and SJW’s whining about that book they saw on a table which ‘triggered’ them.

  53. I encourage all of you to go to one of your clown meetings here in denver. I will bring your clown shoes, some red noses, and a big ol can o’ whoopass brand of whoop your ass for days and make you cry for mommy. Any takers you dumb fucking clowns?

    1. What if amongst the ROK member there is a post-op F-to-M transgender? Would you self-flagellate in remorse for striking a woman?

  54. Maybe you should have meet ups with bikers. A lot of them will agree with the opinions expressed here, and I would love to see the femtards try to mess with them.

  55. You guys are a bunch of beta males. Stand down you dumb clowns. You have no standing in the world. Jump off the nearest building and end it. You’re beta. You’re second class. You lose

        1. How? You post anon threats online. Post some info on how I can expose you for the faggot SJW you are.

    2. “Jump off the nearest building”, “go jump off a cliff”, “go kill yourself”. Isn’t it amazing how you SJW’s want people to die who just want to get together and have a male happy hour talking about life and making new friendships?

  56. You think “SJWs” are the only ones you have to worry about? Run, stupid.

    1. DUDE OMG YOU OWN AN ACTUAL LIGHTSABER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      GUYS! GUYS! THIS FUCKING GUY OWNS A LIGHTSABER.
      NOW I’M LEGITIMATELY SCARED. (wets pants)

  57. Over the long term, a good decision.
    “He will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight” – Sun Tzu

  60. The only people who would say clowny shit like this are basement dwellers. right? You guys are LARPERS eh? Furries? So laughably beta and non threatening. I challenge all of you. I call you out.

    3. No problem. But to qualify you as a non-coward, please provide your real full name, address, and photo right here along with consent for your details to be passed to the media as someone who posts on ROK.

      1. I’ll share my personal info if he shares his but I’m venturing a guess that this commenter looks something like this

        1. lol my name is Kristian swords i live in ipswich near brisbane and i think any serious members of this site should really take a look at their lives this isn’t a men empowerment site its a men who cant get laid or deal with the fact women can be superior seen a few comments from members about women belonging in the kitchen like fuck me how retarded are you i’m a boilermaker and i still do the cooking at home cause my gf couldn’t cook an egg to save her life but can fix any motor probably faster than myself….and before the rude comments she is very much a girly girl and much thinner than myself and for my photo feel free to call me a fat troll lol but yeah bitching about women and about how disadvantaged men are on the web is the saddest fucking thing ever if your a real man fix ya own damn problems don’t blame all women cause your a piece of shit no matter what sex,race,color there is pro’s n cons no matter what you are…the real problem is humanity itself if all people could accept their own flaws and see others for what they truly are the world would be a perfect place but yet again we are HUMAN and if this stage of humanity is as u said it is us being controlled by feminists…so be it as a race all we have done is murder,rape and use over and over again still to this day its as if all of humanity chooses not too reflect on the past to influence new outcomes..but nah fuck it rinse repeat cause we are human and we are fucked either way and in my life women have definitely been better role models so if they are secretly trying to take over like you crazy rok boys believe let em hopefully they do better than what males have accomplished….So della post you personal info if your not a coward…?

        1. Still waiting for your photo and your consent for your details to be passed along to the media identifyng you as someone who posts on ROK.

        2. Sorry, I’m not the troll. His name is in his disqus profile. He mentioned beating up guys in denver.
          A quick facebook search narrows it and some lite profile snooping reveals one sperglord lefty socialist by that name in Colorado. Took me all of 4 minutes.
          Don’t dox him, cuz it might just be some innocent sperg with learning disabilities, but I’m 95% sure it’s him.

        3. I think my first reply spazzed out.
          I’m not him, but his name is in his disqus profile and he mentioned beating up guys in Denver in this very thread.
          Some facebook searching leads me to a very strong liklehood for this guy being a sperg named Gerald K. Knowles, who lives in Denver, and posts shitty jpegs for his grandma to Like.

  61. Just type “meetup” in the News search and this dominates the majority of the results. Even the Governor of Texas made a statement about RoK. I hate that it was cancelled, but can’t really disagree with it.

    3. It’s true. People were calling for violence. I seriously think that if the meetups went ahead there would have been violence. I know that if I went and some feminist sprayed me with pepper spray and I shoved her back or cussed her out the police would have shot or arrested me. I spent all day today reading how to temporarily mask your fingerprints (i.e. superglue) and defeat facial recognition software (its almost impossible) so that I could simply buy a few hours time to talk to a lawyer or wait until the cops coll down and realize that I did nothing wrong and release me from detention.

  62. Just as i thought, you’re not even men. You’re a bunch of fucking cowards. Smh. Silly little mommas boys.

    1. Haha. No, we’re men. Any male who identifies as a feminist, however, has no balls. We’ll still meet at another time. Too bad you have to hack and threaten people who are trying to assemble peacefully. That’s not exactly honorable. Anyways, I’ll still be showing up at the designated time.

      1. lol the people afraid to go too their own meeting are the ones saying real blokes got no balls…? ahahaha i honestly wish you guys had you’re own island that would make eradicating you sad fucks so much easier..and im no feminist i know of the double standards in modern society but that doesn’t change how insignificant these problems are and the fact there is a mens empowerment group just shows how piss weak its members are

    3. Damn googaloo, you caught us.
      We thought we were being so convert, hiding just how cowardly we are.
      Guess we will just call it quits, you’re just tooooooooo smart for us.
      (ties handkerchief to stick will all worldly belongings and walks off into sunset whistling)

  63. Roosh is so smart. By rescheduling he gets a while new cycle to troll the establishment and show them for the intolerant, anti free-speech, violent group that they are.

    1. By repeating this process, it’s just non-stop added publicity, then more book sales and ad revenue. Hook, line, and sinker!!

      1. And the aftermath, we have so many records of threats, incitement by the media, false reporting. All because we wamted to meet for a pint. So much to work with.

  64. How doers one counter-attack this assault on intellectual liberty? Perhaps the Algerian cell system is an alternative. I’m assuming most people here, an above knowledgeable lot,, know what it is and see how it could be applied. A slow process, but a proven method. I would think Roosh would be ideal to start the first cell. We’ll k now this is working if Roosh- or some one like him – will not know the he knows the name of any one in any adjacent cell.

      1. How many push ups can you do? I’m up to 10, but by the way you type I’m guessing you can do at least 20. Maybe 30?

  65. My challenge remains open. Any takers are free to meet in denver at your designated location. I’ll be there with my can.

    1. You do know we now have screenshots of multiple threats of violence from yourself towards others? I believe threatening violence is an offense.

      1. The feminists response to Colonge destroyed whatever little credibilty they may of had before.

        1. >This site is horrible because I heard it advocates rape
          >I hope everyone who reads this site gets raped
          Nothing hypocritical about that. Carry on.

    5. Proving once again that SJWs are actually pro-rape, because it supports their agenda. At least Roosh is trying to figure out how to stop them and their insidious agenda.

    6. Hi Jenna, you sound pleasant. Care to grab a drink sometime. Maybe we could go over a list of non-triggering acceptable topics like gender fluidity and how white men are racist for correctly predicting the inevitable rape epidemic in Europe.
      If everything goes well maybe we could go back to one of our places for a night a sweet consensual sex with breaks every five minutes to make sure that what I’m doing is acceptable and not rape

    8. You are now worse than the business man and author and his fan base.
      He never advocated rape. You just wished it on a bunch of strangers. Do you not realize your mistake?

        1. What exactly has he done to you personally? What makes him a bad person?
          Do not claim he advocates rape as he does not

        3. I am and i have.
          My question stands.
          What EXACTLY did he do to you personally? Have you met him? Like in real life?

  67. Live and learn. We did over reach a bit, and we’ve learnt just how threatening mere men are to the system. They think they have won but nothing is stopping us from still meeting, we will just go underground.

      2. It was a thought experiment, plus you’d think these feminists would be more concerned with the actual rape culture being imported into Europe and soon to North American shores

    2. Fuck underground. Im meeting out in the open. This meetimg was only cancelled so roosh can get another one scheduled. I would gladly take a few punches if it means showing the radical lefties as the violent intolerants they are

      1. Underground as in meetings without the broadcasting and taunting that we’re doing. We’re allowed to meet in public as much as these feminists are.
        But then again I don’t think anyone anticipated this reaction.

  70. SJWs are everywhere on Roosh’s blog and ROK. I can’t see any of the forum as a guest. Something weird is up. Especially since just a few hours ago he said he couldn’t back down now. Either way, I definitely think next time we need to have some kind of private vetting process. This got way out of control for just some dudes wanting to meet up and have a few drinks. The media have come out and shown their true colors as well, blatant unapologetic lying about this “rape advocate” garbage. If it wasn’t crystal clear before that they would go to whatever lengths to push their narrative, it damn well should be now.

  71. Well Roosh will just have to start taking this underground to keep away from the rabid man hating femanazi’s

  73. Sooner or later we are going to have to take our enemies head on. The time is not now, but we fall back every time they push us. A line must be drawn somewhere if we are to be anything other than chronic complainers.

  74. Best pat about this is all the chump white knights and SIMPS teaming up with the feminazis to bring more attention to the group and garnering more members. By tomorrow the Selfie Justice Warriors will be on to another pointless cause from their cell phone and this group will have grown. Thanks, jackasses.

  75. This is a sad turn. I was planning on going to my meetup, even though I felt hesitant at times. I must say, I don’t understand what all the fuss was about. It seems like people were getting almost to the point of hysteria with their fears about this meeting.
    I have a job and bills to pay like everyone, but I have zero fear of repercussion for standing for the truth. I would do an interview on TV and proudly state my views if anyone wanted me to.
    If you get fired, so what? Sue the bastards if you can, and if not, fuck ’em just go get a better job or start your own business.
    If SJWs want to confront people at meetups what is the big deal? I welcome that kind of visceral confrontation. I would love to see who has the balls to step. And they would be the aggressors, providing legal cover for beating the ever loving shit out of the lot of them. Let them blog and tweet about the ass beating they took when they tried to harass a legitimate group of men.
    If you guys have been following the red pill philosophy, you should be proud, erect, muscular, defiant, and entrepreneurial. What can anyone take away from you if you maintain those qualities?

    1. How could you get fired? Maybe you get ambushed by some angry hag who snaps a pick of you in a pub having a beer with some other men. How would that be conclusive of anything? You could just tell your boss you were having a beer with people you’d never met before. No problem.

      1. That’s what I don’t get…are guys worried about getting fired from their jobs for attending a casual meeting like this, or are they physically afraid of these SJWs?
        If it’s the former, I think they are well protected legally. If it’s the latter, it’s just pathetic.

        1. If some HR witch finds pics of you on the net on some femtard blog you just tell your boss you went for a beer at the pub and some wing nuts you’d never seen before started harassing pub customers.

        2. I agree with the intention behind all this – that it’s imperative to bring our community into meatspace. That will only happen if we let go of our fears. We need to shift things back around, so that these anti-American commies are the ones who fear exposure. That’s how it’s always been in America, until the subversive elements finally won in the 1960s.

        3. You can’t get in trouble because people you don’t know started a ruckus at some pub you happened to be at.

        5. Probably what strikes harder is the social backlash. What your parents, siblings, friends, coworkers, etc., believe about you in consequence to your affiliations. That’s my guess. It’s what would strike ME harder. Just my 2 cents. I would like to ask you if you could you please tell me what ROK is about? I already know what I know from the media, etc., but I would also sincerely like to know the point of view from someone who sympathizes with the group and that can maybe explain to me what you are really about from your standpoint. You seem to have some clear body of ideals, I just don’t know which they are. From what I am reading here, you guys think media misrepresented you. So, I am guessing no one will explain it better than one of you and I am open to exchange ideas because even though I have my own set of ideals I am not a caveman. I am sincerely interested and curious about your point of view.

        6. I’ll post my 2 cents….RoK is a site for Neo-Masculinity and promoting the Alpha Male paradigm, as well as exploring masculine beliefs, philosophy. theology, politics, literature, & theory while refuting & disproving the Globalist-Feminist Marxist PC culture that passes for current ‘modern’ society. (How did I do?)

        7. Hi. Thank you very much for this answer. There are a lot of labels in the definition that I am not familiar with and I don’t really know the content of each, so I hope you don’t mind if I ask some further questions in that regard. What would Neo-Masculinity and Alpha Male paradigm mean in concrete actions/situations in real life? What do each consist of? Can you please give me an example about something in modern society (the “Global-Feminist Marxist PC culture”) and how it is opposed to your ideals? An example, so I can get my mind around it. What is something about masculine beliefs, philosophy, etc., that you would like to see reflected in society? I hope you don’t mind me asking questions, I just really sincerely want to understand. Thanks!

        11. Example: Feminists, and most everyone else, opposes a legally imposed default starting point of 50/50 child custody split in divorce. Ask yourself why.
          Example: The top candidate for the President of the United States was asked what he would do to improve the gap between women and men’s pay. He gave a long and heartfelt answer. The scientific, statistical, economic truth is that the pay gap doesn’t even exist. Ask yourself why a top candidate for the leader of the World’s Most Powerful Country had to give a long heartfelt answer for a problem that doens’t even exist.
          Example: Don’t like reading and thinking so much? Here:

        13. Wow. That video is crazy. There are several other videos that are like “social experiments” that show for example that if people on the street see a man being violent with a woman they will intercede, but if they see a woman being violent towards a man they will do nothing. I acknowledge this happens. Regarding feminists, there are many kinds, but the ones I know seek equality. From what I see in the video, I gather you expect the same. You seek equal treatment, or do you think men should get a special treatment over women?
          About the 50/50, I agree both women and men should have the same right to raise their kids. About the gender gap, I am not informed enough as to say, from the articles I have read it is real, but maybe you can point me to a more accurate source, which would be welcome. What I can say is that men and women deal with different social pressures and have done so historically. Nowadays the both face almost the same amount of pressure, just different kinds. But, considering women only have been able to vote for a 100 years or less in some countries, and that they have been historically the ones to depend economically on men, and on the will of their father and then their husband (not talking about today XXIst century, but about from the beginning of time until the XXth century), I do understand that they feel men have had an upper hand. Nonetheless, I do not believe in speech that consists of hatred towards men, but in my experience the feminists that have that type of feminism are the very minority.
          Just trying to exchange ideas, I am open to yours of course.

        16. This image marginalizes the suffering of the working poor and is a product of middle class privilege.

        18. You said:
          “the ones I know seek equality”
          “I agree both women and men should have the same right to raise their kids”
          With all due respect, sincerely, who cares what you think or who you know? All that matters is what is statistically true. This is the first dose of Red Pill. This is the first lesson of being a man. You’re nobody, and you don’t matter, and you’re not special, and your friends are not special, and it doesn’t matter what you think, it only matters what is actually true.
          Let the truth scour you, burn away your ego, your desires, your hopes, your dreams, your everything.
          Then you will see so much more clearly.
          Please begin your studies of the Pay Gap myth by doing a simple Google search for “Pay Gap Myth” and you will see.

        20. According to many commenters yesterday, end goals are total submission of women, legal rape and violence, and putting women in cages when not “in use.” That’s what the members say.

        22. Funny, if you google “unicorns are real” you can find websites supporting that theory as well.

        24. LOL meatspace.
          When it’s an inch long, you can’t really call it meat. More like a baby carrot.

        28. I’m sure you can offer a clear, precise definition of the word “terrorist” for the readers. If you cannot, you should probably just shut your big yapper until you get more education! Accusing people of felonies they did not commit is libel, and we’d hate to see you get sued in civil court for talking smack on the internet.

        29. Exactly. I absolutely agree with what you said first. I know those statements are fallacies, since I’m human they slip, but it’s great that you pointed that out. That being said, I believe the same holds truth when you say “feminists, and most everyone else” believes certain thing, unless there’s statistics on that that I don’t know of, but I don’t think so. I work in research and “feminist” and “everyone” are too broad spectrums, there are different kinds of feminism and there are too many different “everyones”.

        32. The term “dumb” used in this way marginalizes people who can’t speak. Reconsider your hate speech.

        33. The commanded cannot consent. This comment is an act of violence and contributes to the spread of rape culture.

        37. It is not possible to try to hard in the service of social justice. This comment shames suicide survivors. Check your neurotypical privilege.

      2. I agree and I stand up for your right to meet at bars/pubs like this one. Sorry, you came out (excuse pun) a bit blurry but otherwise…

        2. Stop trying to be funny like a man. You’re not funny, never have been, and never will be. Women are just too easily ruffled.

    4. HELL YEAH!! You go, girl! It’s your right! If they fire you, get another job. See below.

      1. Mods please ban. Feminist “gay strawman” at work. Excessive use as well, we all know girls can’t handle no one paying attention to them.

        3. lol so bored you keep asking mods too ban cause she is shutting you sad losers down at every turn lol

        4. The word you’re looking for is “to”. Once again, we see an attack on the character of a diverse group of men whom you know nothing about. Mods ban Kris too. Yes, “too”.

        5. lol you don’t have any valid points so attack my grammar and ask for me too get banned….ahahaha yep a sad sap for sure XD

    5. You don’t get a bravery award for taking imbecilic risks where people can be doxxed. You can’t get fired from your job, good for you. The events were billed as pro-rape. Try explaining that to your company if HR finds out. It doesn’t matter what the actual facts are to these people.

      1. yeah, not really pro-rape, just a little bit pro rape. YOU’RE FOOLING NO ONE BUT YOURSELVES! wake the fuck up.

        1. Not a single case of rape and violence has been linked to this site. NOT ONE. Does it not seem a bit weird that an allegedly pro rape group never rapes anyone ? Open your eyes.

      2. I bet one could sue them though. You can’t fire people over political views, and in court where they would have to actually investigate, nothing of all this rape hysteria would hold up.

      3. It seems like you’re all on a different page. Many members have threatened rape, other violence and imprisonment. That’s the group you’re a part of honey.

    6. If you all have such a solid foolproof philosophy for reclaiming what we, apparently inferior beings, have deprived you of, why don’t you just go live that way? Comments and opinion are ruining your life? Why do you need these childish meetups and leadership? This comes off to me like some big boys club more than an intellectual movement. You exhibit no real strength in any way. And if you think the resistance you meet is dark and troublesome, you have no real perspective on suffering.

        1. Nah. You have a right to take shit about people, and so do we. She’s right, real men would just come out in the open.

    7. There are actually people on Saturday who plan to go in Pegida protests, and they might face even worse bullying and violence. And they are not going to back down. SJWs who swear on the internet are a joke in comparison. I think the meetups should have still happened. Just because moronic little girls make death threats behind their keyboard doesn’t mean they’ll really do it in real life.

      1. I wouldnt hurt anyone. Just going to take photos and put them online! You’re meeting in public, so that’s totally legal.

    8. No one is stopping us, but roosh has to think about the safety of his followers. It would selfish of him to push us all into the lions den when he knows there’s a real risk.

    10. Then quit crying about it and organize your own meet-up little one! Ya know since your feeling so proud, muscular, and entrepreneurial hahaha

  77. It’s no big deal really. So a meetup can be created another time. The word is still getting out whether the opposition likes it or not.

  78. I usually lurk on here, but I felt like I needed to say something. This is ridiculous. We are giving those sluts and libtards exactly what they want.

      1. Too bad it just means we’ll meet up in secret instead.
        You won’t know where we are.
        You won’t know who we are.
        You won’t know when we infiltrate your favourite leftie groups to create dissent.
        And you’ll never know if the next guy you want to go with is one of us.
        Congratulations: you just made us stronger.

    2. I understand where you’re coming from, but I assure you that Roosh has plans. Roosh always has plans.

  79. Pro-rape group holds international private meetup with two locations in Utah
    http://kutv.com/news/local/pro-rape-group-holds-international-private-meetup-with-two-locations-in-utah
    (KUTV) A pro-rape blogger has set up a worldwide private meetup for this Saturday — and two of the 37 U.S. locations are in Utah.
    One of the more controversial statements Roosh Valizadeh, creator of “men’s rights group” Return of Kings, has said revolved around his solution to stop the rape culture.
    …..

      1. No doubt. Is there are way to exchange emails via Disqus? I am technologically challenged.

    1. I hope nothing happens to them as they have already received their punishment. A life lived virtuously is its own reward. They will never know this.

        2. No we don’t. We want you to grow up and open your eyes to the world outside the shallow, loveless,anti-human horizons you are currently limiting yourself to by buying into garbage like ROK and Roosh.

        3. Any links which back up this claim? If this is indeed what “they” want, surely they have expressed this opinion somewhere?

        4. And you plan to do this by denying strangers freedom of association and blatantly lying to the masses about their beliefs?

        5. You’ve been lurking and posting on this site for over two months . Why don’t you grow up and let people have their own opinions

        6. People are welcome to their own opinions. But I am allowed to state mine too. I’m not censoring anyone, I’m disagreeing with you. Deal with it.

        7. No one has been denied freedom of association. Roosh cancelled the meetings. All I’ve done is post my opinion on the internet.
          If you spout hateful garbage, you’re going to get called out on it. Not censored – called out. If you attempt to bring that hateful garbage into the real world, you’re going to get called out in the real world.

        8. The meetings were cancelled because of the sheer volume of threats made by those who disagree with Roosh’s (falsely represented) views. That is denial of freedom of association.

        9. How come when you criticize a woman’s hateful garbage opinions it’s called misogyny but when you criticize a man’s it’s all a-ok?

        10. It wasn’t people who disagreed with his views because they were misrepresented. Here’s some coverage from a very left wing media outlet:
          http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/feb/04/daryush-roosh-v-valizadeh-cancels-neo-masculinist-meetings-over-safety
          You will notice that it does not claim that you or the ROK meetup attendees are “pro rape”, it does not call you a “rape group”, or whatever … it clearly and accurately presents the facts.
          And it’s those facts that people disagreed with. It’s those facts that have made thousands rise up to challenge you – not the strawman of “Media lying to make us out as rapists” that you guys are choosing to believe is true, like an ostrich sticking its head in the ground and ignoring reality.
          We don’t NEED to lie about Roosh’s words to get people to see how disgusting they are – we just need to clearly lay them out for people to see, from the horse’s mouth , i.e
          Why women should not be allowed to vote
          Women are less intellectually capable than men
          (These articles seem to have vanished from ROK in the last few minutes, unless the site / my pc is playing up – I linked them and many more in a post just a few moments ago – I wonder if Roosh is going through the site clearing out all the blatantly misogynistic stuff?)

        11. You’d think after 2 months that you’d realize no one cares about yours mister 1000 lays . If you’re worth 5 mill why not buy roosh out and shut this down ?

        13. Even if I had 5 million, I wouldn’t want to use it to shut anyone down. Roosh is entitled to his opinion, and I’m entitled to oppose it.

        14. The existence of this group and its planned meetings and spirit of recruitment is a threat to women, period. You’re still allowed, regardless of how disgusting it is.
          You are also free to be cowards. The actions speak volumes, when this organization spews such hate toward a gender, but can’t even face that gender in public.

        15. What you are asking for is special treatment. Not surprising that this is a viewpoint of a radical MRA group.

        16. Again, it does not matter how deplorable you find any of the content here; denying people freedom of association and censorship of disagreeable ideas are morally and logically repulsive.

        18. Stop responding then if you don’t care.
          It’s great that you are whining about not being allowed to have an opinion, but then encourage someone to try to shut down the site.

        20. Feminists do.
          Take the case of Anita Sarkeesian and her debunked lying feminist propaganda. Any and all criticism of it, including everything legit, was labeled as misogynist by feminists and opponents of her stance shut down and denied access to gaming conventions.
          Or Lena Dunham, child molester feminist. Criticism of her actions and escape from consequences were deemed misogyny and “attack on women” by most feminist groups.
          And the list is endless. Spare us the lecture if you don’t know your history.

        22. Classic. Revert to insults.
          What you are doing is still whining because you are not taken seriously.

        23. Making threats of violence and financial ruin against a group is not “allowing” it.
          As for the existence of this group being a threat, who would you choose as the judge of which ideas are threatening, and how would you propose to deal with such “threats”?

        25. I’m in a relationship with a beatiful blonde 21 year old who has good morals and values and wants to have children and be a good wife/mother. I also defend women from real rape and I hold them to a higher standard which they greatly appreciate. You have zero idea what you’re talking about. Zero clue. Your attitude promotes feminism which actually destroys women’s souls leaving them miserable and cheated out of the best things life has to offer them: children and a loving husband, a meaningful and purposeful life, an appreciative family and society.

        26. I’m aware of all of this. I totally disagree that “any and all criticism” of AS was taken as misogyny. Her videos prompted huge amounts of debate, plenty of which managed to take place without either side being accused of misogyny.

        27. Many of your peers want a literal war. Sharing screen shots with the FBI. You’re a terrorist group.

        28. Well I won’t be hurting anyone but I totally want these boys dead. Not all males of course, just the losers in this terrorist group. Well, and ISIS.

        29. Feminism is nothing to do with destroying women’s souls. Go and read some actual feminism , don’t just regurgitate what you’ve been told by people pushing their own regressive political agenda.
          It was people like those that defend the attitudes on this site that would have been, just a few decades ago, campaigning against laws which outlawed spousal rape. These days no one would deny that was a positive move (except maybe a handful of ROKers I guess). But at the time it was painted by the right wing press and conservative commentators as something which would contribute to the downfall of society.

        30. Why are feminists allowed to spew hatred towards men? Why are women in college allowed to make false rape claims towards men and recieve no punishment when its proven that the woman was lying? Why are marriage laws so stacked against men? Why do women want to be treated as equals only when it benefits them? And what I mean by that is why do so many women get away scot free for things men get thrown in jail for? Why is a woman allowed to pick up a phone and say “he hit me” and the man is hauled off no questions asked. Obviously we are not equal pumpkin.

        31. I choose myself as the judge of what words and ideologies are threatening to me.
          As far as dealing with those threats? It seems like I don’t really need to. This group cannot even face opponents of their opinion in public. This group has essentially rendered itself impotent.
          But, if you really believe that you have rights that are being threatened and loss, perhaps you can take a page from the feminist playbook. After all, they faced threats of violence – maybe not so much financial ruin when fighting for rights, as they actually had to fight to be finanically relevant, and still got up, went out, and faced the opposition in order to gain the same rights, at least in the U.S. and many other countries around the world.

        33. Hardly any, however, within feminist circles.
          Despite her bullshit, she was crowned as a hero of feminism and women’s rights, got invited to sit in the UN and have world leaders listen to more of her bullshit. Most of her statements are heralded as truth by feminist media and all of her critics are labelled misogynists. Because she’s a woman and a feminist and we all know they’re always right.
          #feminism

        34. Of all the fucking horrible things that go on in this world this is what you take a stance against you coward? A fucking website where men can come and voice their opinions? What a fucking little pussy you must be

        36. For the same reason why your group is allowed to do the same.
          If a woman is proven to have lied about a rape charge (which I don’t think you understand inconclusive evidence or the inability to prove something occurred doesn’t necessarily mean it is a lie), she should face charges. Perjury, for one. It has to be proven, though, just like the alleged rape.
          Marriage laws are not stacked against men. If you have a case that shows this, link it.
          Most women want to be treated as equals unequivocally. We’re even joining the ranks of the Armed Forces – which, ironically, is the one sentiment that keeps us from getting an equal rights Amendment.
          I’m not sure which things you are inferring to when you insinuate that some laws do not apply to women. Care to expand?
          I’ve been witness to a domestic violence case before. There are plenty of questions asked.
          Hyperbole never helps prove a point, pumpkin.

        37. I’m sure a lot of them still are, which is why I don’t understand why you’re whining.

        42. Sorry dude, but Hanah Rosen’s book “The End of Men” was already a natiowide bestseller, and she was invited to speak on college campuses.
          Institutionalized hatred of men is full steam. ROK is just pointing it out.

        43. Because this is a site I frequent and losers with no life , like yourself , and now frequenting it . So now I’ll just make fun of you .

        44. I’m applying this to all ideas, not just what you find on ROK.
          So you choose yourself as judge, but offer no solution to deal with ideas you deem threatening.
          My point here is that I have never seen a plan for censorship that did not reek of totalitarianism and corruption. If you have one I’d love to hear it.

        46. Maybe this is how I’m protesting, since it seems like you guys can’t seem to face your opponents in public.

        49. Protesting ? Haha keyboard warrior , good for you .as I said before my meet up is still happening . Come protest it if you want

        54. You aren’t afraid because we are dangerous, you do it because you are a vicious narcissist who fears not having control over everyone. And like all narcissists, you will always seeks people to tear down to justify the void that comes from having no real self-respect.

        56. You’re dumb as a fucking brick. I work in law enforcement stupid…these things go on everyday. Want proof…go look it up yourself. There’s hundreds of cases everyday. I love women, I do not want a woman free world. As a matter of fact most of the guys who post on here love women. Women do not belong in the military as they are a waste of taxpayers money. I witnessed it first hand, the majority of them join up…fuck a bunch of guys and get knocked up. You are not equal to a man sweetheart. You can’t physically do what the majority of men can do and men can’t give birth to babies. Every luxury you have today was built by men.

        57. Except most men did not hurt those feminist activists. They had other men, police, and all resources on their side. They were handed everything and earned nothing. Men gave them all their rights and financial relevancy. Nobody will bat an eye at hurting men, however. The men here have families to worry about as well.

        58. And try to tell me about your college degree. You can’t learn intelligence from college. No one gives a fuck

        59. Well, it would seem pretty clear that I would be expressing my dissent for the ideology this group bears quite clearly right now, and that is a form of action that I am taking.
          I don’t understand how you feel you are being censored. You are still free to have your meetings. You’re still free to post what is being posted on this stie. What seems to be the case is a fear of facing your opposition. But that is your group’s problem.
          If there were legitimate fears, you could get permits that would allow the use of police if you felt that were necessary. Instead, you choose not to face opposition, at all.
          I don’t get that sentiment.

        60. Yes, that’s all nice and true. That one article has restricted its language.
          But these didn’t:
          http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/home-office-minister-implies-pro-7308510
          http://www.torontosun.com/2016/02/02/roosh-v-plans-rape-should-be-legal-meetup-in-toronto
          http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/rooshv-manchester-pro-rape-meeting-10834636
          http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/pro-rape-pick-up-artist-roosh-v-is-mobilising-british-men-heres/
          http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/feb/02/50000-sign-petition-to-ban-events-by-pick-up-artist-and-legal-advocate
          Between is he a blatant misogynist and is he a danger to society there’s a huge difference. And they should have the right to hang out.

        61. The same laws that applied to women when fighting for their rights apply to men.
          Women were threatened and even beaten for fighting for women’s suffrage.
          Do you have any instances you can link showing this group being denied the same resources that women had during their fight for equality?

        64. You’re paranoid. Men still hold almost all the power in society. The balance may be starting to shift but there’s a long way to go before you could even think about claiming that society is weighted against men, in intelligent company, and not be mocked. You all know this – that’s why you don’t dare talk about this stuff in the real world and just do it here in your manosphere hug boxes.
          Weak minded, pro-establishment, pro-status quo sheep.

        65. Its an Inquisition and it sounds like you are ok with it.. so just admit it!! People like you hate people that arent afraid to speak their minds.. If you align yourself with those that would deny and threaten people that want to gather for a cause.. what does that say about you??

        66. When they are hateful opinions then yes, I will take a stand. And you have no idea what else I take a stand on, so don’t be so stupid to assume that just because I post here, this is the only place I post.

        67. Insult away when challenged with opposition.
          Now, when decide to play grown up, and not school yard boy, please continue the discussion.

        68. You must be a very lonely and angry whore. It’s only going to get worse for you. Guys like me aren’t going to want relationships with you either. It’s too late for you, you know it, so in your misery you try and get girls to make same horrible mistakes you did. It’s why you’re so toxic and angry. I don’t feel sorry for you. You deserve your misery. Please keep talking though, you prove our point which only helps men & women who want to live a good life.

        69. If your meeting happens in my back yard, I will.
          If you guys decide to crawl out of the basement and assemble in public, you’ll have plenty of opposition. Just grow a pair and face it already.

        70. No, she isn’t right because she’s a woman. She’s right because she puts forward opinions which are logically and for the most part factually (excepting the odd slip up here and there) sound.
          I make no claim that she is perfect. I just agree with her far more than I agree the whining, shrieking cry babies that mostly seem to make up her opposition.

        72. I concur from relative experience. We’re helping women and society. We’re the good guys, fighting against impossible odds to save society.

        73. Misogyny is not the criticism of opinions. It’s the opinion that men are superior. You’re misogynists alright, but you don’t even know what it means.

        74. So you won’t do anything until it’s right in front of you ? Such a warrior you are . I’m sure there will be tons of blue haired dykes sipping Starbucks lattes while pouring over their iPhone at our meet up. Come join them

        76. Women were never threatened in the same way. They had propaganda used against them, but groups of men did not beat huge numbers of them or constantly run after them and badger them. There was no threat of financial loss, or family disasters. Some were jailed, but only when they got violent. Unlike now, where a woman’s word or harassment can get one into trouble.

        77. When threats of violence are made against any group because if their ideas, the end goal of those threats is censorship of the disagreeable ideas. While ROK’s ideas have not yet been censored, the goal of a large swathe of the opposition is stopping the spread of the ideas expressed here (censorship).
          As for applying for permits:
          -Why should any group of people need police protection to meet for a few drinks?
          -I doubt such applications would be approved, since a number of government officials in several countries (and the police are an arm of the government) have stated that they intend to do whatever they must to stop these meetings.

        80. Thousands of rational minded people have already judged that promoting rape, misogyny, and homophobic violence is a threat, and we have let you know we will not tolerate it.

        82. Much of the teachings of “neo-masculinity” are quite old, based upon philosophies of cultures past. Many of such cultures rose from primitive tribalism to something near modernism. They must have done something right, considering our present is a construct of the past.

        83. I think I did mention linking these incidents you are describing?
          Groups of men did, in fact, beat women suffragettes. They were beaten, threatened, propaganda was used – as you stated. What about the Night of Terror?
          Plus that fun fact that they were actively fighting for rights they did not have.

        84. Insult away?? What’s left to do when speaking to a brick? You want me to pat you on the head and say sorry pumpkin. You don’t get it, you’ll never get it. Your brain and a mans brain are designed differently by nature. You can’t and never will understand. There’s places women have no business being, but they’ve forced men to let them. That phone or computer you’re typing on…invented by a man. The car you use everyday to go to work men, heating systems, planes, buildings, roads, plumbing, your very fucking freedom= men.
          I could go in for days but you’re too stupid

        85. College teaches you how to be a good worker? Are you fucking retarded? A hard labor job teaches you to be a good worker idiot. Once again, you don’t get it.

        86. You are inferring things I did not say. I am not a pumpkin, and would certainly not wish that you still called me pumpkin, but I get what you’re trying to do – it’s not working.
          Keep crying that I’ll never understand. I understand you completely.
          Go pump your chest in front of a mirror now, if it makes you feel better.

        87. Oh look – you tried insulting me about a college education, and when I broke it down to insinuate, you got mad because you were again wrong about your judgment.

        91. So you would choose “thousands of rational minded people” as the judges of what ideas are allowed to be expressed.
          Don’t forget, “thousands of rational minded people” also believed that slavery was morally justifiable, that the Jews were to blame for Germany’s post-war ills, that human sacrifice was required to appease the gods, and that the slaughter of the Hutu people was the road to peace in Rwanda.
          The masses don’t exactly have a proven track record for prudence and justice.

        92. That’s the thing. They are not even remotely factually correct, they are purposely cherry picked to further an agenda. Take her iconic “hitman” episode where she blatantly lies through her teeth, then demands money from poor gullible feminists aching for a piece of the victim pie.
          I’ll side with the shrieking cry baby opposition, thank you. At least they’re saner.

        93. You seem confused. I know, words can be difficult to comprehend, especially when there are so many of them.
          Perhaps a dictionary would help you adjust to using them correctly?

        96. Why do you get so confused about simple things? Literally, two posts up, I stated what I’m doing here.
          Do you need a picture book to explain things?

        97. Nice false equivalency there. It is exactly those atrocities that motivate people to stand against the dangerous rhetoric you promote.

        99. Oh look, another woman who’s clearly never had a hard labor job. I’ve done all three pumpkin, military, hard labor jobs and college.

        100. Ah, so now we’ve elected the route of the straw man.
          I’d still suggest that dictionary, hun.

        101. Actually “miso” means hate and “gyne” is women, so the term means hate women. If you are going to use the word to mislabel, don’t distort the word beyond it’s definition to suit your ends.

        102. The existence of this group and its planned meetings and spirit of recruitment is a threat to WESTERN FEMALE NARCISSISM AND ENTITLEMENT, period.
          There, I fixed it for you, vile cunt.

        103. I don’t see what my previous work experience has to do with your misjudgments and displaced anger.
          But I love that you are touting a service that you feel women should be denied from and then hanging it over my head to assert you are better.

        104. I told you you’re nothing more than a keyboard warrior . I invited you to come to my meet up

        105. Ah look. Another name calling impotent male.
          Recess is probably over now, you should head back to nap time.

        106. They gave you the abridged version didn’t they ? You’re so cute when you try to sound intelligent.

        108. It is not false equivalency, all of those atrocities were committed by masses of people who believed themselves just a right as you do now. “Thousands of people” do not gain moral superiority through numbers alone.

        109. If you’re such a big man, then post the address of your meet up. Maybe I will show up.
          But, you’re trying to nullify my being here, then invalidate my opinion by implying I do nothing unless the problem is literally in front of me. You are contradicting yourself and confusing very simple things.

        110. If you think sitting in a college classroom is “work” experience clearly you’re a retard. I don’t think I’m better then women whatsoever. I’m just sick of the bullshit lies that we’re equal. We are not. We are designed by nature to do different things. There’s millions of things women do better then men

        112. Aww, what’s wrong “strong woman?” Are you afraid of opinions that go against your own? Are you so spoiled that you refer to differing opinions as “hate” and “misogyny?”
          You and your ilk are weak and you suffer from misandry. The irony of your position is so thick it will give you gout. Fortunately, you’re losing. Now go clean that stinkin litter box and snuggle with your cats, the only beings that will ever love a vile monster like you.

        114. You have the wrong angle here, WE would have been the thousands that stood AGAINST those atrocities.

        117. How can you be in love with a woman and be a member of
          How can you be in love with a woman and be a member of ROK, a site that demeans and degrades women at every chance when it is not trying to figure out how to fuck them? How do you justify this to yourself?

        118. Yep those evil atrocities of a group of men drinking beer
          and discussing current events and experiences. Better close down all the locker rooms too, just to be safe.

        119. Considering that at least half the country runs on office jobs, yes.
          It teaches you to show up, work toward a goal, and get a reward. It isn’t the same discipline as one would learn in the Armed Forces, but it is a discipline in other subservience.
          Equal opportunity is the key word here. To have equal footing in the world and to have the same opportunities to succeed.
          I’m sure you could beat me at an arm wrestling match any day, and no matter how hard you try, you would never be able to push a baby out of your body. However, if a woman shows ability and competency to compete with men at any vocation or social standing, she shouldn’t be denied a right or opportunity to, based solely on gender.
          That is the key to feminism. Some people bastardize it, and it seem like a lot of people hang on those words. Most do no, however.

        120. Just as THEY stood AGAINST the perceived wrongs they sought to right. Just because an action seems right at the time of its execution does not mean it will be judged so forever. My point is simply that numbers alone are meaningless in the determination of justice. In fact, the majority that thinks itself correct is often in the wrong.

        122. It’s a long thread – post the address again. I mean, if you believe in standing up for your ideology.

        125. Where do you get the idea that feminists cannot or will never have children? There are thousands, if not millions, that have all of those things you describe. Some feminists – the males – have loving wives.

        126. What you’re doing is fighting to have rights taken away from people. Every other instance you cited was one in which rights were later (and rightfully) granted TO the people.
          I seriously can’t tell if this whole page is satire but, either way, it’s a joke.

        127. No , you seem to fancy yourself an intellectual , if you care enough to find it you will . It’s hiding in plain view

        128. Oh my fucking word lady. Those are the basic things a 5 year old should be able to perform. You’re a grown damn adult human being?? Really??

        130. Preventing people from meeting each other IN PRIVATE because you disagree with the opinions is wrong.
          Anyone can see that Rooshvs material is not hateful..but even if it was nazi times 10, it wouldnt matter. THERE IS FREEDOM OF SPEECH. Especially, people can talk about whatever they want in private.

        131. I’m not fighting for anything but putting a stop to the censorship of ideas, regardless of how repulsive you find them.

        133. You cant be the judge and the jury of what is hate speech or not. Where is law and order ? if you think there is a problem, call the police and file charges.
          Right now you’re just another member of the mob with a pitchfork in her hand.

        135. “As far as dealing with those threats? It seems like I don’t really need to. This group cannot even face opponents of their opinion in public. This group has essentially rendered itself impotent.”
          You are right about that. But you must admit that threats of violence is wrong. The feminists now are using same tactics as was used against them in the beginning.
          That is irony.

        136. there are more rapists than there are women who falsely accuse men of rape.
          I agree with some of the inequalities you’ve mentioned though, especially the domestic abuse topic. I believe that a woman should be able to hit a man back if he hit first but also that a man should be able to hit a woman back after she’s hit him first, it’s only fair. Some ‘feminists’ pick and choose when it comes to shit like that, which shouldn’t happen, and I don’t even consider them actual feminists. Still though, acting like you’re all so hard done by isn’t going to do shit. Men have a lot more money than women who are working the same position and the same hours. Men have a lot more opportunities, since women are sometimes home bound to look after children. There are 8 year old girls in some countries who are forced to marry and have sex with 40 year olds to get money for their fucking families. Feminism helps men with the problems you’ve mentioned, and any feminist who says otherwise isn’t a feminist, they’re a feminazi or a misandrist.

        137. Yea I’m so ignorant. 1/2 my life I’ve spent putting my life on the line for other people. What an ignorant privileged loser I am

        138. Oh, no, I can quite competently judge what I deem is a threat to myself.
          But now you want me to do what so many people on here are judging women for – call the police and file charges.
          If you consider my dissenting opinion, that’s fine. I’ll proudly carry it.

        139. I’m not a fan of violence. It’s the low rung.
          However, you could possibly take the advice you gave me above if you feel there is a serious threat of violence.

        140. ” You are still free to have your meetings. ”
          No we are not if there is waiting a mob with pitchforks on every meeting spot or a television crew filming to make sure we lose our job next day. How is that freedom ?

        141. Many have threatened. The goal is full submission of women. Many men mentioned cages. This group is a terrorist group.

        144. No , it’s out in the open for everyone who comes to this site to see . You’re just to lazy to do the leg work

        145. All freedom is subjective. You won’t be imprisoned by it, and that is the guarantee that we all receive.
          Chances are, people will have signs – not pitchforks.

        147. How are we below other humans? I am a straight A student despite my ideological beliefs regularly being criticized and ridiculed by my peers and professors. I work a job that helps people who are disabled and disadvantaged. I read literature, write stories and record and produce music. My girlfriend loves me and I treat her with respect while also displaying and leading by an alpha masculine mindset. She loves that. When I turn beta all the sudden (emotional) that’s when arguments or problems arise. The more in control and alpha I am, the more happy she is.
          Taking the red pill was a blessing, but it wasn’t really a pill. For years (elementary-beginning college) I was a beta. I loved unrequitedly, hated “jocks” and men who were “jerks and assholes”. I couldn’t see why women didn’t like me? I would make friends with the girls I loved but they would never show me that they had the same feelings. Instead they would tell me about some other guy they currently liked and I would die inside every time. I would cry myself to sleep frequently and had a hostile relationship with my parents. I was self conscious to an extreme, and developed severe social anxiety. I eventually ran away my senior year of high school and lived on the street in LA for a short while, while also staying with friends, and one night, sleeping in the bushes next to my school. I didn’t graduate with my class and ended up in LA county jail (for a crime I didn’t commit, DA rejected case. I was simply profiled by 2 hispanic cops, one a woman, and denied my rights) where I learned a lot about masculinity, the prison system, and corrupt police. My two cellmates were hispanic gang members, but we got along quite well. They told me to cut my hair and laughed at my pathetic stories of failed love. I started to realize that these girls I had placed so high on an altar were really not worth it, my time, my love, my energy.
          I quickly reverted when I started college. I fell in love with another one and became obsessed. She was probably DTF but I just didn’t have the balls to act (Also I was never interested in sex consciously, only what I believed at the time was “true love”). This was followed by heartbreak and 2 more girls, both ending in much the same way. I was a budding Elliot Rodger, I hated guys who worked out, guys who were very self confided (I called them narcissists), and women for being so shallow to go after them. I eventually found a girlfriend but was so emotional and beta that the relationship quickly became detrimental. Treating the girl like the queen and princess always led me astray, it kept seeing my failure. At this time I questioned my actions (or lack thereof) with even more scrutiny.
          I left the college and went to a music school, moving to LA and it was there that my life really took a profound change. Through the two years I lived there I met countless men and women who would both offer new perspectives and challenge old beliefs. Two women that I was desperately in love with both turned into fruitless endeavors. One I took a trip with to Washington to sneak into Sasquatch music festival (which was successful) ended up dancing (grinding) on some guy she just met the first day we got in. We met him before the show and I ended up sneaking him and his friend in as well. I willingly brought the man in who would, in my perspective at the time, defile the woman whom I was in love with, in public, in front of my very eyes. I had brought with me a necklace that I had made for her, I was going to present it to her and try and make my move (probably would have been too shy to make the move and just handed her the necklace anyway) but after this act of betrayal to my heart I instead threw the necklace at her and ran away. I found a quiet place to sit, alone and away from the crowd and admired the beauty of The Gorge while I quietly wept. It was in that moment that I took the red pill, however subconsciously. I would soon realize how futile female worship was, how it only served to hold me back and keep me down.
          In the years to come I will develop a new found passion for learning and personal improvement. I will start exercising and dieting. I will read classic and modern literature and begin writing my own stories. I will teach myself web design, code, and hacking. I will complete music school and begin producing and recording on my own, developing a small cult following internationally. I will appreciate school and switch majors to mechanical engineering with a goal to obtain a masters in an Aerospace discipline. I will make new friends and establish stronger bonds with old ones. Most importantly I will discover new ways of interacting with women that both increase the number of women I end up with while also decreasing the number of negative experiences I have with them. Women will instead come to me, attracted to me, approach me, precisely because I am not concerned with them, I am concerned with self-improvement and the betterment of the world around me.
          It was after the Elliot Rodger shooting that I found Return of Kings and the Manosphere in general. I would find that people who I used to identify with (incels) hate the manosphere and Return of Kings because it to them is the reason women are the way they are, and they hate the women for being attracted to men who aspire to the ideals presented by “masculinity” and “red pill ideology”. The ideology was one I developed independently, before I even knew what a SJW was or RTK in particular. The ideas expressed on this site (as pointed out by others) are not universally accepted, and some are silly, trite and immature. Many are political and rousing to one side or the other of the political spectrum. But still others, the most valuable ones, deal with self confidence, positive masculinity, and family values. These are the articles that express the red pill mindset. The rest are entertaining filler.
          The men on this site and others are generally intelligent and entertaining. Some are provocative and still others are insulting and crass. That is all fine, we are not homogenized, we are not all the same. We are a colorful, diverse group of people. The MSM (mainstream media) and also the not so mainstream seem to us to be on a crusade to destroy masculinity and instead promote the submissive men and dominant woman. Obviously this is an attack on masculine men, are we supposed to change for the feelings of the masses? And why? Masculinity saved me when I had none. I was a disaster, depressed, suicidal, emotionally unstable, disheveled, and pathetic. I used to disparage alpha male behaviour, but I never really understood it. Now that I do, I feel it is necessary to fight to preserve it. Young men, who were like me, need something to help themselves. Else, we will have more Columbine, Virginia Tech, Sandy Hook, and UCSB shootings and incidents. If I never saved myself who knows what I could have become. I was filled with so much hate. And now you (The SJW who enters and comments) hate me, what I have become, you hate how I bettered myself and am improving to a level I never had.
          You hate me? You think all men on this site are vile disgusting beings? You dare insult me and my brothers? You would seek to keep the oppressed man-child where he is, submissive and unable to better himself. You claim feminism as a way to show that you are about equality and fairness, but in reality you are about suppressing the man so that you may step over him. Once you become a masculine, “alpha” you do not disparage women and disrespect them, contrary, you actually respect them more. Your comment and the similar opinion of the others, that the men on this site are “below other humans” is a terrible derogatory insult, generalizing the whole community in a dangerous way. I’d hate to compare you to a Southern Democrat from the 1800s but that is what you sound like. Black people were looked down upon as sub human and now you look down upon us as such. But, since most of us are “white, cis males” it’s OK.
          Thank you RTK and the manosphere for helping men who were like me. You are needed now more than ever. All the men who are actively commenting and supporting, especially the ones who refrain from engaging in the mindless insults thrown at them and instead direct the conversation to the true meanings and causes, I applaud you. The ones who are just throwing the mud back… well you are entertaining nonetheless. Stay true brothers.

        149. Are you joking? The pay gap is a myth stupid. Women have just as many opportunities in this country if not more opportunities then men. Especially if they’re remotely attractive. Any man who rapes or hurts a woman is a coward in my book. Even if a woman full on assaulted me I wouldn’t lay a hand on her. But you know what, she probably wouldn’t pay the consequences because woman are coddled in society, I’m not talking about other countries dummy.

        150. “If you spout hateful garbage, you’re going to get called out on it.” So, you have a go at SJW’s? Or not? Because if you’d don’t then you’re full of shit, son.

        151. Nobody is shaming you for your service or putting you down.
          But, you are using your service as a badge that gives you the right to ridicule me – and that’s not acceptable.

        154. my life has improved vastly since i found ROK. i’ve learned to be confident and learned how relationships between men and women really work, although some of those truths were painful and hard to digest at first. ROK helped me learn that there’s nothing wrong with a man wanting a thin, feminine, faithful woman. i’m married to one now. it’s great.
          most guys i know who don’t accept the same truths are “incels” (involuntary celibates). they stay home with their video games and beer and don’t even try to meet women. they’re overweight, unhealthy, and lonely. when they do manage to get with a woman, she’s invariably obese, tattooed, and masculine. my own brother has never been with a thin, feminine woman as far as i can tell. i feel bad for these men and wish they could see the truths i’ve seen and experience the joys i’ve experienced. ROK is a gateway to this, and that’s why i support it.

        155. And that’s a cute little graph…what the fuck is that supposed to prove? That you copied and pasted it from somewhere

        157. What in the actual fuck is wrong with you? I’m ridiculing you because you’re an idiot. Not because I was in the military

        158. You’re right, you can’t learn intelligence. You’ve got it or you don’t. And you, unfortunately, don’t.

        159. Sign up for the draft as woman ship yourselves off to the middle east for 5 years and when you get back we can have a beer.

        165. He has combat experience honey he has seen first hand how woman behave in it. What experience do you have besides reading some BS on feminist web site that says woman are great soldiers with no first hand proof. Keep watching G.I. Jane

        166. Notice how idiots like minime13 ALWAYS ignore the points that she is presented with, choosing instead to zero in on insignificant details. This reveals that they don’t know what they fuck they are talking about, and need to avoid all serious debate because they can’t hang. They are only here to have a one-way “conversation” which involves shaming men for being normal.

        167. And if you really want to come you find it . Like I said , plain view .you protesters sure are lazy

        168. The only cowards I see are the misogynists. Robert sounds like a real man. Don’t be jealous.

        169. Patriarchy is not derived from privilege, but the responsibility is a privilege. It is earned by bearing the burden and joy of being the head of ones family. Caring for, and supporting your wife and children, looking out for them, providing for them. I know, I do it every day. It is a privilege afforded to me by God, and while it can be thankless sometimes, I thank him for the gift, everyday.

        173. And you are using nothing more than your own idiocy and breathtaking sense of entitlement as a badge to ridicule real men. Piss off, moron.

        174. I think she meant one you didn’t have to pay to smell… Or at least one that the woman consented to having smelled. Rape doesn’t count.

        178. How would signing up for selective services end with me being shipped off to fight? The draft hasn’t been utilized since Vietnam.

        179. Your previous work experience tell us about your character. If all you have done is work in a battered woman’s shelter on woman’s studies degree than I have very little respect for you.

        180. Beauty is only skin deep. Your “thin feminine” woman may be very different in 20 years, and you may be miserable. Your brother, who presumably chose his partner on the basis of compatible personality, interests, worldview etc, may be totally happy in 20 years when the importance of physical beauty in the relationship has worn off.
          ROK espouses a shallow philosophy which states that a woman’s most important characteristics is her physical beauty. This is abhorrent to most people who are intelligent enough to realise that youthful beauty fades very quicky.

        181. Oh and do you think maybe, just maybe women should be held responsible for the creeps that they let knock them up?? And not recieve government money funded by taxpayers

        182. if your not a fan of violence, then why do you condone violent methods then ? I guess it’s ok as long as it is YOU who use the violence.

        183. Um, thanks captain obvious. I know what it means and that’s why I’m using it… You are an anti-woman, pro-rape group and I’ve got about 3 dozen screenshots of comments from different men to prove it.
          It goes without saying that men who hate women think they’re better than them lmfao

        187. Care to expand?
          I’m zeroing in on insults because they need to stop. How does one expect to be taken seriously if they can’t behave above school level maturity?

        192. Feminists don’t push babies out of their bodies, they abort them over and over again until your ovaries are completely destroyed. At age 35 you realize this and will never be able have children because of the 100 cocks shoved into your holes. You did this in your twenties when your value as a woman was highest.

        194. Yes if I see them spouting hateful garbage on here, I will . Just yesterday I called out an “SJW” posting here because s/he made a sweeping generalization about “white, straight males” (of which I am one). You will see this is true if you look through my post history. So, yeah, I’m not full of shit. I call out bullshit as and when I see it, regardless of where it comes from.
          Can you say the same?

        199. Sorry yes but I think a site with articles called “Why woman shoudln’t be allowed to vote” and “Why women are not trustworthy” (or similar headlines) is hateful.

        200. Oh, I see you’ve met my ex boyfriend. I don’t have much respect for him either these days, but not for the same reasons.
          I don’t see where I have said that I have worked at a battered woman’s shelter, nor where I have said I have a woman’s studies degree.
          All I see are stereotypes that some of you hold being shattered like glass ceilings that are crumbling all over the world.

        202. “Because your group promotes violence. DUH.
          No it doesnt. There hasnt been a single case of violence linked to this group.
          There’s been thousands and thousands of cases of migrant violence, but you people don’t whine about that because “White people are evil” or something.

        203. Do you actually have an argument or do you just troll people’s posts. At least have a funny creative insult if you can muster one up. Oh I see, you just run around calling people rapists

        204. I don’t want relationships with guys like you, so THANK GOD. LMFAO I date real men who aren’t intimated by the success of women.
          I don’t want your micro dick.

        208. Your true colors just showed, you equated us to the early feminist movement that faced opposition. You are the opposition now you little green haired monster.

        212. “ANNOUNCEMENT: The Meetup On February 6 Is Cancelled”
          The organizer cancelled their own meeting.
          That is not “Denial of Freedom of Association”
          You Moron

        214. What? That isn’t feminist … I ask you to go and read some actual feminism and you come straight back at me with a link for a site which is clearly anti–feminist? This is exactly why you all fail so hard at understanding the world – instead of going to credible sources you spend your whole lives with your head trapped in your little manosphere hugbox.

        215. I bet the thought of being put in cage get’s you all wet between your dirty smelly folds.

        216. Why are you putting strong woman in quotes? Quotes are for quoting people and I never used that phrase. You’re showing how dumb you are.
          I’m not afraid of anything, you’re all are the ones hiding. I’m using my real pic and name, you’re having top secret rape meetings. You’re the coward dumbass.

        218. lol, good one. Havent heard that before.
          Oh wait, I have, you said it already! It’s ok, I understand that your brain can probably only hold a few insults at a time and you might have to repeat them frequently.

        221. I’d agree, to a point. If the threat of being beaten is real, the advice you gave me is a real protection – pick up the phone and call the authorities. Outside of that, none of us have a higher guarantee of safety.
          As far as losing your job, if you feel this group poses no ultimate threat or danger to another group, education would be the key.
          The degree to which you feel that is important to fight for a certain right or idea is your choice, ultimately.

        223. I’m just using your tactics against you . Pussy and micro dick is the only things that go into or come out of your mouth

        224. When you people dox us for having different opinions and we lose our jobs because of it and are left in ruins, many us might take our own life. After all having a job to do for a man is the single most important thing to us in life. For a woman it’s having a baby, you just play at work, it’s not the same for a man. It’s all we have and we are at a point where green haired little girls like you can fuck with us to the point were serious consequnces may happen. For your lot, it’s just a big game to see how many strong virtuous men you can destroy. You’re evil children playing serious game.

        226. Um, no.
          That wasn’t insulting. It was stating a fact, and disputing what the previous poster stated.

        227. If you read the article it cites several feminist books and reports. Like I said, didn’t expect you to read it, you’re just trolling.

        228. Fuck you cunt, we fear losing our jobs you fucking child. That’s worse than any broken bone are gash. I would walk through a thousand fists aimed at my face in order to attend a meeting. Broken bones and cuts heal, you take my fucking job, two things happen I kill you and then I kill myself.

        230. They are old , as in regressive. As in, not progressive. “Progressive” is openly used as an insult by many in this group.
          Our present culture is built on advancing from the past. I.e Progressivism. If it wasn’t, we’d all be in the stone age still. There have always been regressives trying to hold back progress because they thought things were better (through their rose tinted glasses) in the “good old days”.
          But those people will always lose. And progressives will always win. Because at the end of the day the human spirit is progressive, and we want to become something better.

        231. I am not a “you people,” I am a woman.
          If you feel that you are contemplating suicide, there are resources out there to help you. I suggest finding them.
          If having a job is the most important thing in your life, to the point where you’d take your life, then I’d suggest checking your priorities. Is it worth it to partake in something that might get you to take your own life? That’s your decision.
          I think it has been made perfectly clear that not every woman has that dream you described.
          I don’t have green hair. It’s brown.
          I’m not a little girl, either.
          I am giving my dissenting opinion – something that you should be mature enough to accept if you feel entitled enough to state your own.
          And no, my life and rights are not a game.

        234. I suggest you take a break, calm down, and come back because you’re not thinking clearly. I believe you just threatened my life in another comment below.

        236. And “folds?” Sounds like you’ve never seen a women’s genatils. You could google it, you know. Or just rape someone like your peers.

        237. I did read it! Jesus Christ. Couldn’t you just go and read ONE actual feminist piece of writing to keep me happy? No, because you knew you wouldn’t be able to find one which fits your narrow narrative of what “feminism” is (hatred towards men, in your uneducated opinion).

        238. Fucking pathetic. When you stop smashing your sticks against rocks and fancy joining the adult world I’ll be happy to educate you on how it works. Until then don’t bother showing your faces in public, that applies to you all.

        240. I’ll speak whenever the fuck I want to, microdick.
          Most of you read books on how to get laid, I’d say you’re the slut. I don’t have any books like that.

        243. This is the difference between people like you and us. We have no problem getting woman, it’s a PUA site, clearly we have learned and used the techniques on woman and it works like a charm We don’t use this stuff on ugly fat freaks like yourself. No men like you, especially men like us, we never even really noticed you through out our lives. Why? Because you have no value to men like us, we prefer physically attractive woman, with fit bodies, feminine qualities. People like you have none of this. That is why you hate men like us, because we ignored you our whole lives and left you to the beta males which you turned into woman (feminists). People like you never went to the gym to get fit, you didn’t have a good diet. The list goes on and on how you make yourselves on purpose physically unattractive.

        245. I’ve got a folder full of threats of violence from members of your group that says otherwise.

        246. If it’s a threat worthy of calling the cops, I would. I just find it interesting that a woman calling the cops is something that is mocked on this board – not specifically by you, of course. There isn’t a police force that you can call to thwart an ideology, though, to a point. That threat I can speak up about in the way I am doing here.

        248. The only way these guys maintain the pretence of their intellectual superiority is by barring women. Otherwise they resort to personal insults and name calling.

        249. Read all of those, not a single one of them advocated “Nuremberg Laws”. Or anything even similar to them – there is no mention of wanting to exterminate men, or put men in concentration camps, or anything whatsoever that could be likened to Nazism.
          Try again. Or just save yourself the time and don’t bother, because you won’t find what you’re looking for, because it doesn’t exist.

        250. Yes I can say the same. I’ve sat on the fence for a few years (a few years back) and it was obvious who’s full of shit, and it’s not the writers here. Standing up to fat cunts with big mouths and dusty vaginas is not hate speech, it’s the end game. If we don’t call them out on their bullshit they keep spreading it like peanut butter. These people are fucked in the head, about time the whole world called them out on it.

        252. That piece is pretty biased though…the usual talk about rape and violence against women..which is not what this site is about.

        254. I really can’t say that you’re correct in your thoughts on military women. Most the women, including myself, in my family has been in the Marines since it was legal for us to join the military in that nature. Sure, some women are like that. But, the majority of us work our asses off to stand with the men in the military. And there are plenty of women that are able to match a man’s work. You can’t say that I am incorrect in these words.

        255. No, it’s sadly real. The whole idea is that women are worthless, they should be allowed to rape us, beat us, and put us in cages. They’re planning a literal war (their words) and are essentially terrorists. I’ve notified the FBI.

        256. Come on educate me? Tell me how the world works even though I’ve seen the face of reality and stared death right in the eyes more then once you fuckin cunt

        258. You’re not a real man, stop lying to yourself. The whole point of your little cult is to get to the bottom of why you can’t achieve what a real man can in life. Unfortunately it’s not led to betterment but instead a deluded belief that everyone else is the problem. Fools the lot of you.

        259. Yes the folds, your labia, you know that extremely dusty thing between your feminist legs.

        261. Your part of a pro-rape, anti-woman group. You’re below other humans. You’re the scum on the bottom of my shoe. you’re a terrorist.

        263. Get the fuck off this page you fucking retard or will project myself magically through your computer screen and cut your head off.

        264. If she were afraid of opinions that go against her own, she certainly wouldn’t be posting here.

        270. You come to this site where fucking woman are not wanted, provoke us with your anti male rhetoric and then when get mad and respond to your taunts and threaten you, you run to the police. Again you are a fucking child.

        272. No one has denied you your freedom of association.
          Your own leadership cancelled this event.

        275. Feminism was not about hatred against men, but the actual feminism being practiced now IS hateful against men.

        277. I was in the Marines, I saw very few women who worked extremely hard and yes, carried the same weight as a man.

        278. Good grief!
          No one has prevented you from doing anything.
          Your leader cancelled this event of his own volition.

        280. Do you want a fucking cookie? A wow award? Most of the women marines spent most of their time on their backs taking cock. Waste of taxpayer money

        284. If I start hunting down feminists because of cunty posts they make on Twitter, swear violence against their families, start posting the home addresses and employers of all of their followers you would support this?
          Because you’re supporting these actions now. This is what your band of cat-ladies are doing.
          “No one is being denied freedom of association, but if you associate with them we will hunt you down, threaten your children, and try to get you fired.” :^)

        288. The very freedom and every luxury in society today is because of men. Are we supposed to be impressed that a few fucking women can fly a plane or sit behind a desk and call themselves Marines?

        291. I hate the fact Roosh is even getting traffic for all the coverage .. spineless c**t, that one.

        294. How were his views falsely represented? I read his “article” and it was pretty unambiguous about what he was advocating

        296. Uh the first computer programmer was a woman – Ada Lovelace – which any geek can tell you.
          That Kevlar you wear (if you’re actually in law enforcement and doing anything actually dangerous) invented by a woman.
          “Central heating” actually women were responsible for: the first heating component for cars, the first design for indoor heating using natural gas and the first house that ran on solar energy.
          You realize that the phone, the computer, and any complex device is not the result of a single individual but many — MANY of whom were women. Women who at the time were even more miraculous because they were defying society (i.e. men who perpetuated ideas akin to yours) by daring to invent and work?
          How about instead of getting mad that women want equal opportunity you stop trying to get credit for the accomplishments of individual contributions made by men (and as I proved women you aren’t even fucking aware of) of the past.
          Your narrative reveals a lack of education but I guess that’s to be expected since law enforcement discriminates against higher IQ 🙂

        297. None of my rhetoric is anti-male. It is, quite certainly, anti ROK. This is an open, public site so I can come and go as freely as you.
          What you are insinuating is incorrect. You don’t have a certain entitlement over me, as is clearly shown, to post on this site. If you guys wish for it to be that way, then I’d suggest investing in a more private format. Otherwise, you should quit crying because other people are giving a dissenting opinion. That’s not how adults act – and ironically it is you calling me a child. That’s a laugh.

        299. Repeat after me: it’s not censorship. Having someone hear out your idea, then thinking that you’re a bunch of scummy s***tbags for saying it, and letting you know that, is the grease wheels of free speech flowing.
          It’s my first amendment right to say that your ideas suck and, personally, I find your MRA kind disgusting.

        300. Constantly thinking about ROK cock you will never get. I swear all woman do is think about sex.

        301. You seem to want it for your service, as you keep mentioning it so errantly. Why can’t she do the same?

        303. No one has been drafted for quite a while. I’m all for equality in selective services though. Always have been. I’d prefer that no one have to register but totally agree that women should too, if men have to.
          We don’t hate men, dumbass.

        304. ” No I’m not, you are”
          In the end, most people’s “arguments” are the same as those of children. It’s pure coincidence that you proved to be the best example I’ve seen in a long time.

        306. That would be logical, which male feminists are allergic to. If exposed to it, they start making sense.

        307. “beauty is only skin deep.”
          no. simply not true. this is one of the great lies that is ruining western society. physical appearance speaks volumes about a man or woman’s character.
          i roll out of bed early five or six mornings a week and do a hard, intense workout that lasts for 30 or 40 minutes. i only eat natural foods that were around 100 years ago (with the exception of protein shakes). i don’t smoke or drink, and i avoid sugar and soy. anyone who does this consistently, male or female, regardless of age, will maintain a healthy weight and look far better than someone was does not. it takes discipline, and discipline is not valued in our culture, but to say that beauty must fade with youth is simply not true. beauty and virtue are closely related, and beauty is an indicator of good health. my wife gets this, and she takes care of herself like i do, like everyone should.
          i understand that these truths are difficult for you to accept. you’ve been lied to your whole life. i used to feel vaguely guilty about wanting to be with a beautiful woman, since society told me that looks didn’t matter. nevertheless, i’ve always been disciplined and fit, so the thin, pretty girls came my way. i travelled a lot and was good at learning languages because again, it’s something that requires discipline. i’ve held beautiful, thin, foreign women in my arms as they promised me their love forever in italian, spanish, and russian, or just english with a charming working-class brit accent. beautiful moments that most men will never experience, even though i was naive as to women’s true nature still and couldn’t tell the ones who would stick around when things got tough. ROK helped me with that, and i truly believe the one i’m married to now is the best of the many women i’ve been with in the past, and that i’m a better man myself now.
          do you do well with women? do you really like how the women you’re with look naked? do they make you happy (rather than having to constantly “work on your relationship” with them)? if so, you’re good. if not, i’d encourage you to consider these truths and find the discipline and courage to change your life. you could have what i’ve had, but even better since you’d be going in with a full knowledge of the truth.
          here’s a sublime article by roosh that i wish i’d had access to 20 years ago. would have changed my life earlier and helped me avoid a lot of suffering:
          http://www.rooshv.com/the-roosh-program

        310. I will say whatever I want and if you don’t like it, feel free to go away. Freedom, bitch.

        312. Freedom of speech bro, you can’t just tell her that she isn’t allowed to speak her mind, without consequences, regardless of the venue! Come on! I thought that’s what this was all about, freedom of speech!

        313. I hope you don’t make it to where I have to resort to reporting you to the authorities. You clearly need to take a break before you harm yourself or someone else.

        316. You guys aren’t some shiny-eyed martyrs like the Jews or whatever group you choose to compare yourselves to–you’re hateful bigots that want to overturn centuries of social progress for some fucked-up, invented fantasyland where women are simply vessels for your domination. Grow up.
          The reason there are so many people “with pitchforks and television crews” are because your ideas f****ng suck and have no place in a modern society. For hating Islamists, and this site has many references to how terrible Islamists are, you share many of their views on the place of women in the world

        317. I show my face to the public everyday, enhancing the lives of the people around, stranger, family, and friends. I would rather you didn’t try to “educate” me on the adult world. Is that you in the picture? You don’t appear to be the role model I would like to base my “adult” beliefs on. Oh, and thanks for looking out for the public, telling them what is best for them (that we shouldn’t be putting our faces out there) really helps to prove you are a totalitarian at heart.

        318. Wow you just named off like 4 things that women may or may not have helped create but probably stole the credit for anyways. Don’t break your own arm patting yourself on the back pumpkin 😉

        323. Yea I work 55 hours a week and am completely self sufficient but sure, I’m lazy. LMFAO.

        324. “Girls are more mature than stupid boys!”
          It’s alright, darling. It’s really hard to reclaim the high ground when you’ve been exposed as a petulant child.

        325. Turn to the FBI, the men who a part of the grand “patriarchy” who will both suppress you and protect you when you feel threatened. The FBI. Comical.

        326. She certainly can if she wants and if she served honorably she deserves recognition. It’s very rare to see any woman serve honorably in the military. Most should get nothing but a cock shaped medal and dishonorable discharge

        327. You don’t know what invite me. You invited her, and when you invite so,some, you give them the info about the things they’re invited to. Unless you’re a spineless pussy who is terrified they’ll actually show up.

        328. I name things women have been documented, with fucking patents, having created which were relevant to your specific points.
          If you want an entire list I’m sure I can gather that up for you and spam you with one comment at a time — but since factual information is lost on you and I value my time more I won’t.
          Enjoy Ferenginar.

        329. Here’s the deal – when women are saying, you are not helping us, then you’re not helping. Regardless of intent, if the group you set out to help says, no thanks, then you’re doing it wrong.

        330. I wasn’t speaking about misogyny, I was addressing Patriarchy.
          I would ask in all sincerity that you define what you consider misogyny, so I may have a clearer understanding of your worries and concerns.

        332. We are not being limited. We are being enlightened. Open your eyes was exactly what I did, and I found that by being a masculine, alpha male, and continuing to enhance my skills, strengths, and confidence, that I would live a happier and more productive life. Roosh writes a lot of satire and is by no means the grand wizard or something. His platform of Return of Kings gives some like minded men a space to discuss and engage in friendly debate. RTK is not loveless, or anti-human (although occasionally shallow), it is a place where a diverse group who share a quest for greater self-self-fulfillment through the ideas of neo-masculinity can give advise and engage in current political discussion. Open your own eyes. RTK is a savior to an oppressed and disenfranchised group of young males. RTK and the manosphere is needed to help aid young men who might otherwise turn to violent or dangerous behaviour (like school shooting). Think. Don’t disparage. And never assume.

        333. And, we’re back to “I know you are, but what am I?”
          Come on, darling. We still haven’t tried “neener, neener, neener” or “you’re not my friend anymore.”

        336. The existence of this group and its planned meetings and spirit of recruitment is a threat to some women sure. Not all women however.
          The existence of, the planned meetings and spirit of recruitment of the Radical Republicans before the Civil War was a threat to Southern Democrats and slaveholders. But modern historians, politicians, and lawmakers will tell you that they were in the right.
          I still want to go to the planned meeting and will show up like originally instructed. If a feminist wants to make a martyr of me so be it.

        337. Lose the creek smile and I may consider taking you as an arm piece . But for godsakes don’t talk

        338. We may disagree, but I appreciate you not moving to insult like many others on this board. It seems that, if anything, polite discourse should be encouraged if people believe this group is misunderstood.

        339. I don’t see the analogy clearly bro. Nothing is going to be achieved with hatred. Oppressed women in all parts of the world need the support of men. It is not a battle between the sexes. What are you fighting for? What are you going to achieve?

        342. If they do say hate filled things, then no I don’t. But I don’t believe they do say them all the time. I’ve been asking people here to provide me with examples for quite some time and no one has managed yet. I doubt you will be any different – but I will put the challenge to you anyway: Please find me a link to a mainstream media(non fringe/loony) feminist saying something “hate filled” against men.

        343. There is no “we” in this confersation of childish retort. It is “you” that keeps reverting to childhood insults.

        344. Damn shame no one finished the job. No one would have cared or missed you. No one will ever take this “movement” seriously and your “cause” is a complete joke. Real men don’t act like this. Don’t mistake yourself for a real man, ever.

        345. Your comment really shows how disgusting your mind is. I dont blame you. I blame the people who brought you up.. your mom didnt teach you to speak respectfully and not to discriminate people based on their gender. You are not gonna get anywhere with that attitude bro. Smart women are gonna kick your ass.. socially and professionally. and you’re gonna be sitting here crying for your “rights” with these so called ‘Masculine’ bunch of dickheads!

        346. I can steal other people’s ideas and have it patent put on it too. It’s not that hard you fucking dumb queef

        348. Shut up. There’s no goal of submission, no cages, no terrorism. You are fucked up in the brain if you think we are terrorists. We exist due to feminism and the sjw’s bullshit. You, feminists, are the only threat to society with all your man hating. I’m fed up reading so much shit from your comments.

        349. Analogy, dear girl, between the things you post and the things children say. It is remarkable how very similar the two are, though you do not seem able to understand why.

        351. You are happy that these meetups have been canceled: it happened due to threats of violence or threats of similar nature (doxxing etc). You got your way and you don’t care HOW you got it, that means that you condone the methods.
          I didnt see you being critical over these methods, I just see you glee in cheerful satisfaction.

        352. Then you are not reading my posts, but merely projecting a stereotype on me.
          I have stated plenty of times on this board, today, that people should have the guts to go to their meetings and face their opposition. I think that is what mature, responsible adults do. They stand behind their convictions and behind their word.
          I have also clearly stated that I do not agree to the violence, so I wouldn’t cheer violent behavior. Discourse I encourage.

        353. Ah yes that is me in the picture, you see I’m not afraid to show my face because I’m not ashamed of my beliefs or myself. Nice attempt trying to insult me though.

        354. Of course we don’t face opponents in public. You have the right to threat, kick us because, public powers and politicians are on your side.

        357. Oh wow and staring death in the eyes taught you how to socialise really well didn’t it. I’m so impressed by your constant use of the fact you’ve had military experience. Why don’t you continue to use it as an answer to everything. I’m sure it gets you everywhere you need to go.

        359. Any particular logical reason or just because it goes against the narrative you’ve bought into?

        360. Feminists use rape hoaxes to persecute white men and only white men. Roosh was trolling with his poor choice of words, yet not entirely wrong about the underlying principle of law he was revealing.
          Ultimately, the correct answer to Feminism is not to reach out to non-white men for solidarity, but to promote apartheid for white racial security.
          We must be prepared to annihilate the men of the racial cold war enemy and those men who are their accomplices. White women can only fall in line after we accomplish our racial defense objectives.
          Actually, rape hoaxes are targeted against white men primarily in the American context, yet the rape hoaxes are also being used in Europe against non-white men, meanwhile, real rapes committed by non-white men are being covered up by European Union loyalists. Liars are on both sides.
          Anyway, apartheid is the answer and we will use force to implement apartheid. Feminism is the plan of the anti-white jew, speaking of which, I suspect you are a male jew impersonating a white female.

        362. You know, I don’t even subscribe to Roosh’s celebration of masculinity as it was back in the Pleistocene. But his camp’s got some points. PC has reached the point where neither discussion nor freedom to reach one’s own opinion can be had regarding many subjects. We have the same rigid cultural taboos we had in 1950, only with the propositions all reversed. And young men out in the mate market today must practice defensive manhood or they may really get burnt just like Roosh says. A rape charge carries a 35-year term in my home state, and it may take nothing beyond a victim’s testimony to establish it in court.

        363. If that is the case then why is there such a low conviction rate for rape? Clearly a victims testimony is very rarely enough to establish guilt. Free speech is alive and well – what isn’t tolerated is hate speech. And when I say “isn’t tolerated” , I don’t mean it is censored – I mean that when it is raised, then people are generally ready to raise their own opinions in opposition.

        365. The right way is not to threaten people in any shape or form. If that becomes the norm in society it could come back to you as well. It’s a slippery slope.

        366. Properly shut your whining cunt mouth. If you didn’t actually come out with this absolute pish you wouldn’t be held up for riducule because of it. Destroyed by a bunch of little girls. Not very manly is it? Ignorant fuckbore.

        369. Conviction probability gets pretty high if it goes to trial. What you mean is that charges aren’t brought very often. And that’s true. Most prosecutors are reluctant to effectively destroy someone’s life unless they have strong evidence, and perhaps community outrage, backing them. I wasn’t planning to attend the cancelled shindigs; having just found out via news and then discovered and perused the web site. As I said, I don’t agree with them. But the shutdown of our national conversation on any topic related to race or gender in favor of the campus radicals’ orthodoxy is indeed nearly completed, by the the folks who said they were teaching us tolerance in the first place. I’m glad I’m not in relationships anymore. I’m not sure I would do it again if I had to start out as a kid now.

        370. Weird, I have many screen shots of comments from your peers that want EXACTLY that. They told me it will be within the next 5 years and I should be ready for war, men vs. women. He said they’ll recruit all men HAHA

        374. The guy she is responded to has made quite a few threats on this thread. If you don’t like the sentiment of being tied to those accusations, then perhaps you guys should talk to some of your own folks who are spreading that ideology.

        375. My mind can be disgusting and I’m quite proud of that, I don’t try to hide it like feminists. Bringing my mother into won’t shame me into silence, it’s just a classic feminist tactic that men are catching onto and not falling for anymore. Also, you look to be possibly of Indian descent and a girl, just a heads up, at ROK we feel Indian feminist girls in general are even worse than white feminist girls. There is a whole article about your type her on the site. Have look, you may see yourself.

        377. For the same reason why there had to be laws allowing women’s suffrage, and outlawing slavery.

        379. LOL right ? I haven’t seen any women here that hate all men. I hate ROK and other misogynists. I love real men.

        380. The FBI is far too busy digging through a private email server full of ignored-radical-Islamist-threats to care about some group of pissed of internet bloggers.
          Seriously, you SJW really know how to waste service officer’s time and taxpayer’s money on false accusations.

        381. We do not have the legal right to assault you. You’re scared of a little verbal confrontation. Scared bitch,

        383. David Futrelle has an article in the International Business Times on Roosh and ROK, in which he discusses Roosh’ poisonous attitudes toward women. It’s easy to see how very young and under age men in particular could be negatively affected. This is a dangerous site.

        384. There are men on this board who claim to be the superior being in all aspects – brawn and brain, and social stature. How on earth is that ideology correct if you fear going out in public to face those you feel are inferior?
          This is an exercise in pointing out what is wrong with that ideology, and a lot of people here are proving that.

        386. Some of the same cultures neomasculine philosophy borrows from had hospitals, sidewalks, democracy, and internal plumbing to name a few examples. By your lead, we should abandon them because they belong to a “regressive culture”. The renaissance was to re-capture that which was lost during the fall of Rome. Some truths of human nature do not expire, and no matter the time there are still horrors. Even today, should you not blind yourself to them.
          The progress you support is not progression, but deconstruction of the past psycho-social constructs that made the way for our current society. it is a hyper-extension of Dadaism to every day life, fueled by emotional misinformation and hatred.

        387. Listen nurse Ratchet, your a manipulative cunt I can tell woman like you from a mile away thanks to the information on this site. You think you are sooo much better than everyone else. Liberals like you are the worst, you claim to be helping people yet you fuck them over at every turn. Liberals invented residential schools, not Conservatives. Your like a mother who smothers their child to death with their ” love.” Get fucked.

        389. Is that honestly all you’ve got? What a poor excuse of a human being. For all your ‘masculinity’ you sure are lacking.
          Just so you know, having spent time in the military doesn’t automatically make you braver or more courageous than others, it’s not something that entitles you to try and belittle others either. A shred of modesty goes a long way. Puff your chest up too high and you’ll fall over fool.

        391. Aren’t you on a pickup site to learn how to get into those ‘dirty smelly folds’, you disgusting piece of shit?

        393. That’s the ultimate irony isn’t it? These guys protest that they don’t need women, that women should be submissive and docile etc, but they can’t stop thinking about women all the time – women are all they truly care about!

        396. This guy has actually threatened to kill people on this thread. Whether it is credible or not is unknown. However, these meetings were cancelled due to internet threats, so it seems like some of you take those types of threats seriously enough to feel your life is in danger.
          It seems like she has the same authority to feel the same sentiment.

        397. Fine you can stay and wind us up, but when I say I would like to cut your fucking head off, don’t run to the police, grow a pair and deal with it. That is my problem you can say what ever you want as a woman but if I express myself as a man who isn’t going to take your shit, you run to the cops. Your a coward, that is not surprising you are also a woman incapable of understanding bravery and accountability for your words. You want the game rigged, your a cheat.

        398. If someone builds a physical building or starts an organization with their own money then who should be in charge of that organization or building?

        399. lol you ladies are soooo full of yourself, reading through these comments is pretty funny. I am going to go outside now to work and get educated. I hope thats okay with you and you don’t feel threatened. I AM NOT making a threat. I am a pacifist. Is it okay that I commented? Please let me know if this comment has been approved or disapproved for viewing by the general public by your superior reasoning skills and moral compass..

        400. CUNTS LIKE YOU WILL TAKE OUR JOBS WITH DOXXING AND PUBLIC SHAMING IF WE GO. YOU ARE POWERFUL, MORE THAN US, STOP ACTING LIKE A VICTIM AND OWN THE BULLY IN YOU THAT YOU ARE.

        401. Oh, sweetie, I don’t have to grow a pair. I have a uterus, which is the strongest organ in the human body.
          You are making death threats – that is something worthy of reporting. You need to understand the difference.

        402. Misogyny isn’t normal. Taking an imaginary “red pill” to feel masculine isn’t normal.

        403. Is that honestly all you’ve got? The day you serve in combat is the day you have the right to tell me anything. The day you put your life on the line for the country that lied to you is the day you can feel free to tell me your opinion and have it actually matter to me. I’m still waiting for you to tell me about the real world feminine man boy?

        405. A way for you to stop feeling that you are some underprivileged, downtrodden, despised member of society when in fact you have the potential to be anything you want.
          You just have to open your eyes and get your head out of this cesspit of negativity and anti-life that is the “manosphere”.
          Women are not our enemies! Feminism just wants equal opportunities for women, it doesn’t want to “kill all men”. It isn’t about the end of masculinity, it’s about the end of outdated conceptions of masculinity – hey, did you hear, you don’t have to open doors for women any more? You don’t have to pay for dinner on all your dates! You wont be expected to lay down your life in a “women and children first” scenario. Women are able to lay down their lives for their country fighting on the front line now. There’s no need to keep them wrapped up and safe to preserve the breeding stock, as was hisorically the case. You, as a man, are liberated from the historical constraints of your gender, just as women are becoming liberated from theirs.
          It’s a good thing. Just open your eyes and see.

        407. Says the Muslim who is championing woman’s rights, what a fucking joke. I know what Muslims think of Western woman, and it’s far worse than anything we espouse here.

        408. I mean there is a lot incorrect about this, but I’m just gonna focus on one point for now. No financial loss? What exactly are you talking about? Because before woman’s rights movements If a man wanted to leave his wife, he got to take everything. In fact, once he married her, back then, all of his property (including children) would legally be his. And when these couples split, those woman were left with nothing financially speaking, as well as being separated from their children. You certainly have the right to your opinion, but I would avoid spreading falsehoods.

        409. LOL that’s the best you got?
          There’s proof it’s true but I don’t like it, so it must be false, uh, uh, uh….. QUEEF!
          Must be hard having such low intelligence.

        410. What is the point of proving anything to you? Most of these problems were caused by interfering with freedom of association.

        411. I think he’s saying you probably take movies like that one about the suffragettes that came out recently at face value without questioning their historical legitimacy or bias.

        412. Those men do exist feminist, they are called Muslims and we don’t like what they have in mind for our woman.

        414. That person should be, in theory, but we all know this isn’t so black and white.
          That person, for example, probably had to get financing. That person relies on outside financing for their organization or building to keep standing.
          That person also has to recognize that, outside of their personal structure, there is a public structure that helps support it, small and large. They have labor laws to adhere to. They have safety laws they have to adhere to. There are practice and standards laws they adhere to, or face penalty.
          You’re making a complex discussion a little too simple.

        416. You totally misunderstood my point if you thought that by saying we should shed what we don’t need from the past, in order to evolve, you thought I means plumbing and hospitals.

        418. Proof?? Let me guess, you believe everything the media tells you too. I’m glad my IQ isn’t as low as yours. Queef

        419. I never saw them. Was just using hyperbole. I don’t fuck feminists. As for consent… uh, who needs consent? If they come back to my place they already did. Duh. And seriously? THAT’s the angle you went for? What the fuck is wrong with you people? Is originality against your cunt code?

        420. Actually, your intolerance has, perversely, drummed up much interest for ROK. Thank you for completely misunderstanding our writings and propelling ROK into the mainstream media limelight. Bravo!

        422. Lol, or as any educated person will read that “Here at ROK we are racist as well as sexist”.
          You guys just can’t stop fucking yourselves in the ass can you?

        423. Naw if you had the power your wouldn’t do it. You’re a fucking pussy in real life.

        425. Funny , I never actually hear feminists claiming to be oppressed by the FBI. In my experience it is far more likely to be meninists/MRAs/RooshV fans that have paranoid delusions about being oppressed by the police and authorities.

        431. No, that is when you apply for a permit for a public gathering and are denied one by the state. Any private entity is free to deny you private space as they wish because the 1st amendment applies to state actors, not private entities.
          Also it only applies in the US, in most of Europe (particularly Germany) you could be deemed a hate group by the state and not be allowed to exist. Freedom of association being a concept of the UNITED STATES constitution and all…
          Also you canceled the meet ups on your own free volition because you felt there would be expected consequences.
          There have been plenty of groups that have marched for values regardless of consequences. Like civil rights housing integration marches through all white neighborhoods. You think they didn’t fear consequences? Good thing REAL leaders aren’t a bunch of pussies eh?

        432. You don’t know the first thing about my own ideology.
          The writings on this page are not hard to understand. For example – the rape entry which got everyone riled up – it should be seen as clear satire. He’s not legitimately calling for rape to be legal. He’s actually using a sort of hyperbolic satire to get a point across that, in reality, is pretty one-sided.
          There is plenty of public discussion about keeping yourself safe and keeping yourself from being a victim, as far as rape and sexual assault are concerned. Women seek out to protect themselves from such behavior in means of carrying weapons and taking self defense courses. We practice safety in numbers, and use the buddy system – much like yourselves when you plan meetings.
          The other side is to expect men to take some culpability and responsibility of their own. The majority belief – not far-right, far-left, or fringe belief – is that both sides act more responsibily and more aware to prevent these kinds of crimes. That is why you see the pushback, by women, in the call for men to be more responsible. Historically speaking, the women have bore the full responsibility, when the act itself involves 2 people.
          I understood the sentiment of that article, but it also served to lessen the severity of rape and sexual assault, whether it meant to or not. Women are not just raped in back alleys or after having too much to drink. Regret/rape calls are not as common as the article insinuates. The article, while trying to make a point, read as a juvenile rant by someone that doesn’t really understand rape.
          And, I can’t take credit for propelling this group into the media spotlight. Your own creator did this on purpose. As much as the free publicity may help gain recruits, it also gains an exponential number of dissenters based on a false ideology. I’m not sure that notoriety by misinformation is somthing that anyone really wants.

        433. Well lets get real here. Almost everything was invented by men. There are exceptions that prove the rule that’s all.

        434. By shedding the past, one runs the risk of repeating past mistakes. Rome was overrun with depravity (sexual, social, psychological) of the worst sort, and consequently was destroyed by more conservative societies.
          By thinking you cannot learn from your forefathers knew nothing is arrogance indeed. A foible endemic to everyone from boomers to millennials.

        435. First – at least in my city, a group above a certain number of people have to apply for a permit to do as such, if it is on public property. It’s part of the local laws and ordinances.
          In my city, your meeting was supposed to be held on public property.
          Second – if you are denied the right to peacefully assemble, then it sounds like you have a civil rights case. Even the KKK is allowed to assemble.

        437. That’s not a threat. That is simply what is going to happen. You should be grateful you were forewarned.

        439. You hate misogynists…great so do i. Tell me what is misogynistic on this site ? Yea sure there’s a lot pointing out the difference between men and women, and a wish to return to more traditional gender roles, where men are masculine and women feminine. But why is that misogynistic ?
          And dont bring up the rape story again please, its getting old. It’s not about actually permitting rape. No one here likes rape, there’s never been a single case of a member of ROK raped anyone. If there was, don’t you think it would be in the media since they are dying to crush us ?

        440. Sure it is, and I believe that too much government is dangerous.
          In reality, anti-discrimination laws protect you, as you should not be allowed to be discriminated against because of your personal affiliations. A lot of people (not you), are implying they’d lose their jobs if they went out in public to support these meetings. Wouldn’t the same laws then protect you?
          Or, rather, do you think fair is fair, and if someone is going to be fired over being affiliated with this group, then that is the right of the employer?

        442. “‘Naa man” “bro”
          What frat house did you learn how to talk like that?
          You’re a real creative free thinker…bro

        443. Actually, you do. You are reporting things to the FBI because you are afraid. Afraid of what? Our ideas (which you falsely claim are pro-rape)

        447. Let’s get real here, then. The tide is changing, and with more equal opportunity, more women are joining the ranks of invention and innovation.

        448. FBI are responsible for imperialistic overthrown of smaller governments. They spy on civil rights activists like MLK. Could be viewed as part of the police state. These things progressives, SJWs, and feminists will claim. Valid or not. Government agencies are either oporesing them and/or responsible for aiding them. Sometimes simultaneously.

        449. Disbelieving everything the media tells you, just because they told it to you, is just as ignorant.
          And I qualify for Mensa membership so I doubt you have a higher IQ. It’s statistically very unlikely.

        451. I drank no koolaid. I doubt you actually read my posts. I discovered these common ideologies indepently. I was suprised that this “manophere” existed who gave these ideas and promoted these values which has helped me earlier. I wish I found it sooner (or had a good role model to teach me). None of these values included pro-rape or anti-women

        454. One needent show their face to present great works of art or literature, some even use aliases to not reveal their identity. For other reasons becides fear.

        455. You shouldn’t insult someone then expect them to give you a higher respect than you afforded them.

        457. You people and your fucking statistics. You refuse to deal with reality. I’m sure you’re much smarter then me at certain things. And I can guarantee I’m much smarter then you at certain things.
          What the fuck do you want? A star? A cookie? Yay, you’re smarter then some people. Go put it to good use.

        458. No they wouldn’t be used to protect me because unless it was politically profitable to do so. Fair is fair if I am allowed the same legal right to discriminate. Men only organizations are legally prohibited. I just don’t understand why private people can’t decide these matters on their own. If I go to a roosh meetup maybe I will decide he is a jerkoff or maybe not. Why get in people’s faces about it. If men need a support network because of social isolation, then what is it to you?

        459. And she originally wasn’t talking to you. However, that didn’t stop you from giving your 2 cents, nor will it stop me from doing the same.

        460. It’s really creepy hearing someone speak as if they know you, when they clearly haven’t the slightest idea who you are!
          Get some help, friend.

        461. But didn’t you know she is?:
          “Zeroing in on insults because they need to stop…except the ones her side are throwing…because.”
          Personally I would think the threat to sodomize us with hot pokers, pictures meant to imply our anal rape, or promises to kill us slowly would need to stop.
          But then, what did we expect, obviously we “deserved” to be threatened with sexual assault (and worse) for meeting up in bars all because irresponsible reporting was done and a cadre of impressionable net-warriors bought it.

        462. No, men only organizations are allowed. Look at sports clubs and fraternities, for starters.

        463. “Pro-rape, anti-woman group.”
          I think you have mistaken us with the “Syrian” rapefugees that actually openly Rape and grope women in the streets of Germany and Finland.
          speaking of which, wouldn’t your time be better spent taking a stand against the people that carelessly import and protect that kind of people, rather than spending it by boring us to death?
          It would, wouldn’t it? But to do so would require of you to actually give a damn about such things wouldn’t it? And we both know you don’t actually give a damn. You are just here to let off some steam and to feel good about yourself for taking a stand against a supposed evil without having to actually lift a finger.
          You will stay here for a while, getting a high and feeling so damn good about yourself for showing us “mean” “bad” people how horrible we are. Soon enough though, you will get bored and you will and you will continue with your life as normal. for a while you will even have that smug sense of rightiousness as if you’ve actually done something worthwile when you were calling us terrorist and what not. But the truth is, You won’t be changing shit. We won’t be hurt because some dumb cunt thinks we are the scum of the earth, neither will we stop gathering here.
          Your presence here will be quicky forgotten and you will change nothing. So save yourself some time, honey, and show yourself back to the kitchen.

        464. I am not responsible for anyone but myself.
          If other people are insulting you, take it up with them.

        466. He was being hypocritical. I didn’t tell him not to insult her. I just said he shouldn’t expect any different.
          Reading comprehension seems to trip a lot of people up here.

        468. Lets get real here. You’ve had unlimited freedom for the last 50 years. And in those 50 years men still dominated in every field by a gigantic margin. Well you have the porn industry lol. And btw, I don’t see you bitch about men being paid less there.

        470. It’s freedom of speech. I’m a part of this movement to some extent because it gives me an edge in this increasingly misandric world. I don’t agree with everything written here, but it helps. Feminists say the equivalent, if not worse, than what’s written here.

        473. You gave her some free advice to make a sandwich. I guess you do set the price.
          That piece you gave – not even 2 cents.

        474. You need to stop pretending that women didnt create this problem. The destruction of male space was an avowed goal of 3rd wave feminism. Many feminists say crap about white men that are similar to what the Nazis said about the jews.

        475. Some, do, just as some men belonging to this group say some pretty hateful things that you likely would not want to be associated with. Does that make you one in the same, because of a small number of people who take things to the extreme?

        476. Even when its proven that she lied about rape, there is never any punishment. Perhaps a warning but never any punishment that compares to what the man will receive if found guilty. Think about it, someone is trying to put someone else behind bars for YEARS, ruin his life completely because who will ever employ a rapist ? and if she fails and it is PROVEN she made it all up, she even admits it..NOTHING HAPPENS ?!

        478. Perjury can be applied. I don’t know specifics of every case to understand why it is not, but lying under oath is a serious crime.
          I believe that a person who falsely accuses, and is proven to falsely accuse, a person of rape should be convicted. False accusations only serve to hurt real victims.

        479. You have a weird definition of “advice”, which I do believe conflicts with the broad consensus of what the word actually means.

        481. Yea..but point me to a single case where a woman was seriously punished for lying about rape.
          It seems its more or less risk free.
          On the other hand, I cant point you to a single case where a man was found guilty of rape and wasnt punished.
          So there is something wrong there..

        482. Ahh… actually, although some say she was the first computer programmer, this isn’t entirely proven. Some historians see the supposed work done by her exaggerated and mainly the work of Babbage. Please play again.

        484. Real men! Excuse me while I fall out of my seat laughing. There is a reason your sad little circle jerk got cancelled, a reason why all you “real men” have to hide behind your screens as keyboard warriors. You all would be destroyed by “real” men and women if you ever so much as expressed your archaic views in public! I’m sure you and all your pathetic, laughable, and small-dicked boys from this site will have all sorts of whining to do in response but I won’t be on anytime soon to reply. Unlike you boys I have a happy life to live so I can keep outshining fuckers like you.

        486. No, because it is pretty difficult to charge a person with a crime without evidence. One’s own admission, or witness admission needs to exist.
          I’m not saying it doesn’t happen. I know it happens, and I hate that it happens because it is a serious crime – the crime of rape, and the crime of false accusations.
          But, with both, there has to be admissable proof that proves the crime.

        487. Don’t bother, like he said he’s been here awhile now (at least since yesterday) and all he does is troll. You can’t reason with him or give him examples because he isn’t here for that.

        488. Read your fellow commentators comments and ask yourself that question.
          Oh, that’s right you’re not responsible for anyone but you, but darn if the same doesn’t apply to ROK readers.

        489. A lot do get charged with rape without any evidence though. Just look at the Mike Tyson case. No evidence at all and he always said he didnt do it, to this day. Perhaps he did do it, but he was found guilty based on her word against his.
          Then there are the case of “campus rapes” which dont even get investigated by the proper authorities. The accused simply gets expelled.

        490. Weell, he isn’t the one that came to this site just to complain with caps-lock on.

        491. Cute, “The pay gap is a myth stupid,” says another keyboard warrior who bitches about graphs yet never provides any proof of his own to support his irrelevant claim. I guess you only got that High School diploma if you still think the pay gap between genders is a fallacy.

        492. Not really:
          From M-W:
          advice
          noun ad·vice əd-ˈvīs
          Simple Definition of advice
          : an opinion or suggestion about what someone should do

        493. You admitted that feminist say bad things about men but countered that roosh says bad things about women. I noted that many feminists that day such things oftentimes work for organizations that receive govt funding.

        496. But why exactly do men need to be ‘masculine’ and women ‘femine’? Surely it’s a case of be whatever you want as long as you’re not hurting anyone else in the process.

        498. Well thats fine but if I were to write a list of inventions made by men just during the last 50 years the ROK server would run out of memory.
          Edit: would probably be the Discuss servers.

        499. And let me guess, your “proof” is a bunch of graphs. The reason those graphs work is because there’s more men in the workforce jackass. There’s more men ceo’s etc….
          The pay gap is a myth.

        500. “despite my ideological beliefs regularly being criticized and ridiculed by my peers and professors.” gee ponder that (I know you won’t though). Yeah you sound super alpha boy, I think you should have used the word masculinity, masc, alpha, etc more…your beta is showing (gasp god forbid!)

        501. Self confidence is supposed to be quiet…for having found it, you sure seem to have a bunch of undealt with insecurities to blather about it so much

        502. And once your done copying a pasting some silly graph as “proof”, go make me a sandwich. As I’m sure it’s all you’re good at. Well that and sucking dick

        503. BAHAHA your comedy has been priceless and much needed today sir. Continue on in your ignorance for the rest of the world to have a great laugh at!

        504. That was a case of his word against hers, if absent of other evidence. It was tried in a court of law, and the determination of guilt was handed down by a jury of peers. That’s how the law is supposed to work. That is the fairest it can be.
          I don’t know all the specifics of the case, but from what I just looked up, there is still little more than his word against hers – although his chauffeur did testify to corroborate parts of her claim.
          Our justice system isn’t always fair – we’ve all seen Making a Murderer by now, and get the privilege of re-watching the OJ trial currently. It’s often bought and sold, but that’s another can of worms altogether.
          The court system is what I’d prefer, though, as opposed to nothing at all.

        505. But they’re just soooo masculine and alpha they have to keep talking about it otherwise their beta is gonna show!!

        506. And when they cross a line, they should be held accountable. I’ll agree with you on that. Without specific reference, I’m not sure to which extent you are talking about.
          I am a legit feminist. I believe in equality – not special gains.

        507. As if what we or anyone else do is any of your damned business.
          You and your kind are tinpot totalitarians. Nothing more.

        508. Here’s a perfect example on a level that your small brain might understand.
          Whaaa, I’m a male bartender and I don’t get tipped as well as female bartenders. Whaa!!! It’s not fair. Pay gap! I want equal rights!!! Whaa!!!

        509. I’m not a muslim. Atheist if you need an answer. Which is why, regardless of religious affiliation or not, I can see that your logic and arguments suck, are based on false premises, and are personally repulsive to me. Do better

        511. Here’s another question? Why do women porn stars get paid more then male porn stars? Is that a pay gap??

        513. The existence of this group is a threat to women?
          I doubt anyone here was in Cologne on New Years. Perhaps you may have heard of that.
          Save your outrage for a real threat to women.

        514. “Neo-masculinity” says that women should stay home , not have careers and dedicate their lives to their families.
          Feminism says that women should have the choice, of either staying home and raising a family, or, if they want, doing something else with their lives.
          Which one of these sounds most “totalitarian” to you?

        515. I’m not treating everyone the same, though, and that’s my point. You’re kind of making it right now. I speak to the person commenting in reference to how they comment.

        517. Haha don’t bother trying to explain your plain English to him. He’s projecting hard as fuck. These idiots are super entertaining.

        520. See, now, you can’t really dictate my opinion.
          On that note, though, this organization grew off an idea or example, which probably wasn’t the worst thing in the world, either. However, you’re all as free as I am to post about these ideologies.

        521. Ah yes it does. Ask any straight male.
          Look, I don’t mean to be offensive but if you’re gay, or whatever there are forums for you. Nothing you post here matters to us.
          You’re simply bringing more web traffic to us..Thx!

        523. All feminists are silent on anti white male hate speech because that undermines their coalition. You admit that it does happen but find it inconvenient to speak out.

        525. Was it feminism?
          “No woman should be authorized to stay at home and raise her children. Society should be totally different. Women should not have that choice, precisely because if there is such a choice, too many women will make that one.”
          -Simone de Beauvoir (“Sex, Society, and the Female Dilemma,” Saturday Review, June 14, 1975).
          That’s from the article you had no intention of reading earlier.

        527. The totalitarian is the one who attempts to violently silence those who disagree with his opinions.
          But please keep on lying, it’s actually entertaining.

        528. “Patriarchal privilege ” ? Tell me more about that. Everything I have I had to work for and hard.
          And besides it’s not true because Beyonce says girls run the world..

        529. Well, you have that in common with most ROK readership, we don’t treat everyone the same either. You might like Terry “Death to Inequality” Xu’s body of comments.

        531. This has rarely happened in our current environment in the West. Even in Litigation Nation.
          Women are free to make false rape accusations without any recourse, just look at the Virgina Tech case, among many other, and the very shoddy left wing journalism of Rolling Stone…

        534. You seem to believe that the woman he gave that advice to was a sandwich vendor. As much as you want to believe that, it is not the case. And yes, I’m leaving that wide open for you to do your damage.
          Dominoes, however, is a food vendor. So you would order from there.

        535. No one is being violent here. I mean, roosh was promising “furious retribution” to any women who turned up at the meetings, but that was it.

        536. if this is true it’s probably because this group of boys is all keyboard bark and no bite. seen quite a few threats of violence, rape and death just on this thread alone.

        537. I think the paygap is a myth but I also think that men make more money. But that is because we try harder, work harder. Because who wants to fuck a broke man ? it’s not something conscious, it’s an instinct. Women don’t have that problem.

        540. Yea you never see feminists bitch about that. They also never complain about not enough women in the sewage industry or in the coal mines.

        541. One can only feverishly hope that last part will come true. And if your group of boys on here were doing nothing wrong then you wouldn’t have had to cancel your sad little circle jerk in fear of violence, being fired, etc.

        545. I know plenty of people in Mensa and I was completely underwhelmed by the lack of real knowledge most of them had.
          They were good at memorizing stuff but not much else.
          Real geniuses do not join groups to show off the genius they have. They simply do things to make life better for not only themselves but the world in general. Whether just because or they get paid. They improve things.
          You coming here and being insipid and purposefully obtuse is a very poor reflection of your intelligence.
          Quit attacking and you may actually learn something.

        548. Men are charged all the time with “rape” simply based inuendo never mind actual “Prima Fascie. evidence.

        549. Not advice, as an imperative statement it may be advice but also can signify instruction, request, or command. In this case, no matter what else it may have been, it was not advice.
          Perhaps: “Your request for her to get you sandwich”.
          Don’t worry, when you hit grownme31 it’ll all come together, I believe in you.

        550. A lot of cases are thrown out, and some are brought to trial.
          If a woman is found to be lying, she can be charged.

        554. And most people globally follow some form of religious doctrine which says men were invented by God, a god, or gods. Since then men have been co-“conceived” by both sexes through mating.
          Maybe we should post in all CAPS?

        560. Again how I know you’re just a troll, you still haven’t read the article.
          But regardless, what is this new hypocrisy you’ve stumbled on? You mean to tell us one person’s opinion isn’t necessarily held by all?
          I am shocked. This is quite a revelation for you, perhaps you have learned something on this site after all. Perhaps about yourself, and that’s what ROK is all about…self-improvement.

        561. of all the fucking horrible things that go on in the world you take your stance against women and women’s rights you coward? what a fucking little pussy you must be.

        562. No, I’m sorry, it has not been unlimited in the past 50 years. There are still glass ceilings in some venues. Look at the one most recently shattered in the NFL, and look at the backlash and outrage.
          I’m not really immersed enough in the porn industry to know the specifics of pay wage there. I’m not really interested in learning a lot about it. I did see how Tracy Lords was treated, and the example is not exactly the best example of a woman-dominated field.

        564. Not at all. However, I don’t know that she would have been treated differently had she waited until the appropriate age.

        565. What is quiet about it? Are you the expert in it? I was simply explaining how I found it parallels many of the beliefs of this site and the manosphere in general. Don’t tell me… you have never read something which was designed to motivate you to do something? By hearing a story that may relate to you, you can learn and relate the sucesses in your life. That’s what a lot of the articles are about – sharing exerience and then people obtaining advise, or at the very least, empathy. Empathy is the capacity to “put yourself in the others shoes” allowing you to learn about their perspective and usally eliminating some bias and judgement.

        566. Nope, KKK and Neo-Nazis get called out all the time. Your freedom of assembly does not extend to promotion of rape culture and violence towards any group of citizens. You have the right to shut the fuck up.

        567. A peer or authority figures finds your beliefs to be wrong and that relates to me being alpha/beta how? That’s just a fact of life. I am merely pointing out how the beliefs on this site are criticized and supressed yet we still find ways to overcome and suceed. Not sure your point.

        568. You work in law enforcement? Please quit your job, as you have an incompatible worldview.
          YOU are a waste of taxpayer money.

        571. I am not fighting. I am discussing. Remember this all started to supress a peaceful, private meeting.

        572. Dude, everything you say is an insignificant detail. You are a gnat. It’s really funny that you take a stance that any group of people is inferior to you. You are balding, ugly, and, given some time to look into your family tree, likely inbred as well.

        573. In this instance, I explained the idea of feminism to the poster I responded to as wanting an equal playing field and equal opportunity. That is what feminism has worked to achieve. He responded by both laughing at the idea that women should have that equal playing field, and comparing that to an ideal that we all have in kindergarden (5 years of age?).
          His posts demonstrated his idea of a patriarchal privilege.
          I dn’t know you anymore than your ideas on this board, so I can only go off what you say. I feel I was pretty accurate in my response to that other poster, though.

        574. Sure. If I wanted to speculate more, her young age could have led to some naive acceptance.
          Hard to say, either way.

        575. “You’ve had unlimited freedom for the last 50 years.”
          Except for unequal pay, work harassment, and discrimination in politics, sports, and religion. Yeah, totally unlimited.

        576. Whack-a-mole. Those little eletronic things that pop up out of nowhere, try to instigate a reaction, then pop back into their hole.
          That’s the vibe I get from him.

        579. Women did not create the problem of discrimination, nor did they create the need for protections from discrimination. They just acted on those needs.

        582. Go ahead. Meet in my town and see how long you stand. You won’t make it past the pet shop. I GUARANTEE YOU THAT!

        584. Telling a private organization who they have to hire thru quotas is discrimination. Affirmative action and Jim crow are the same thing.

        586. Adam, if that is your actual photo, LOL I see your problem, man… LOL HOWEVER, it is still a no go. Can’t be helped.

        591. It’s getting there. Not equal yet, but getting close. Modern dating has different etiquette now. There is the discussion of who pays and how much.
          And let’s face it, a woman living at home with her parents until her suitor comes isn’t the most attractive prospect out there, now is she?

        592. Your only connection to porn is watching it if you know what I mean junior!!! I know I said it before, but you are one ugly mf-er. LOL Grow some. Realize you are deficient and women don’t want you for what and who you are. Can’t be mad… thank your ugly father for that. Try to increase yourd*ck size by holding your breath. Then maybeeeeeee you might get some with a bag over your head if she was drugged and passed out.

        593. Sure, and in a perfect world, people would be hired based on their qualifications to perform that job.
          When the quota system was put in place, it was during a time where it was a necessary evil to allow women and minorities the opportunity to work and survive.
          You can say that it’s probably outgrown its need at this point, and I would agree for the most part. I wouldn’t be proud of being hired just because I’m a woman, but I wouldn’t want to be hired in spite of being one either.
          It’s a double-edged sword to have this kind of system. In one instance, one’s rights are not being protected by letting them freely discriminate against another group. In the other, there is the possibility of creating an unequal system on another end.
          There’s not really an easy answer to it.

        595. Misandry isn’t normal. Adopting Red Pill theory to understand how women act and why is absolutely normal and advisable.

        598. there were threats given though to stop the assembly and exchange of ideas. That’s wrong.

        599. Most people don’t have to come to message boards proclaiming how great their dating life is.
          Those who do – well, It’s like your ex making the time to contact you and tell you just how great they are without you.

        600. Oh PLEASE. Wah wah wah. “Falsely represented” my ASS. “Satire” my ASS. Pathetic neanderthal scum like you, whining about how you’re being treated by others, while at the same time you insist on the right to spew your mysoginistic crap at women? Can’t take as good as you throw out into the ether? Sob, moan, sniffle, whine all you want. You’re just making yourselves look more like LOSERS with every stupid ass comment.

        603. Listen your just here to rub in the fact that our meet up was cancelled because of you and your kind. Fine, you win this one, but this is only the beginning. Roosh is smarter and more drive then any feminist out there, we’ll win in the end.

        604. Tipping is a matter of personal choice, and is optional. The base pay is the same, male or female.
          I know plenty of male bartenders that bank as much as women, if not more. Besides, there is typically a tip-sharing policy – especially when multiple bartenders are on shift, and shift changes occur without required bill close-outs.

        605. They are held responsible. The bear a child that they then have to take responsibility for.

        606. Life is not a competition about men against women. Its should be about us. Humanity as a whole. We have same brains. It just depends on how you use it.

        607. Actually, if you’re getting all politically correct on us, a bitch has to be a female dog.
          If you’re referring to the slang, then gender is irrelevant.

        609. Amy he’s referring to the matrix… hahahaha …they live in a fantasy world, like the “unicorn club for the real-est mens.”

        613. Stance against women’s rights? At what point did anyone on here say that? We’re against batshit crazy feminists.

        614. Dont waste your time arguing with a woman. They stop evolving mentally when they stopped physically . It has been proven numerous times. They shouldnt be on this forum anyways, do we go to their women forum and are we welcomed?

        618. I’m referring to the matrix? HAHA.
          I now know you are simply very uninformed. I wish I had invented Red Pill. I would be much more well off than I am.
          Just google red pill or go to http://www.reddit.com/trp and read about it. It wasn’t me that named it but the theory is pretty true never the less.

        619. Really? You’re mensa quality are you? Prove it.
          Let’s engage in a debate on here. Show me the wonders of your profound intelligence.

        620. Jesus Christ, I was making point which clearly went way over your head stupid. I’m not actually a bartender

        621. Of course you are, I’m not denying woman are more powerful than man as of the year 2016. However, you didn’t earn it was given to you through unfair laws. Like the one that gives you the right to shoot your husband in the back if you claim he was physically assaulting you. The laws that give mothers 100% custody, the home and child support and alimony if they want it. The law that keeps you from conscription as woman but affords you the right to vote. The laws that privilege woman going into STEM jobs over men because you have a vagina. The cultural protection you receive free of charge from men if they see another man assaulting you. The list goes on and on. Woman are lazy, selfish and only want as much shit as they can get unfairly, like all this stuff.

        625. The people who believed human sacrifice was required to appease the gods were definitely not rational-minded; which isn’t really their fault, they didn’t know very much about the true nature of the world.
          Thousands of rational-minded people did, however, believe those other things, that is true. But even greater numbers of even-more-rational-minded people got mad about it and told them why their positions were/are incorrect. That’s sort of what people are doing here, too.

        628. You can report all threats to who ever the fuck you want cunt, this isn’t twitter your here because you want to be verbally assaulted, if you didn’t you wouldn’t be in a male space winding us up with disrespect.

        633. This we agree on. The true “Liberal Arts Education” has long since died and universities increasingly are places where students will pantomime pre determined mantras rather than use logic, research and freedom of expression to grow and develop as human beings.

        634. You’d think that, if we were a bunch of weak-willed, weak-minded, and generally weak individuals, there would be no reason for a web site such as this. The mere existence of it pretty much blows that above theory out of the water.

        635. And what exactly are the opinions that people are suppose to grow up from? The belief that there is average intelligence differences between races? Because I bought into the propaganda that all the races were equal as a child, then I grow up and realized it was all bullshit.

        636. Yes the oh so important jobs that woman hold and if they never showed up to work all of them at the same time the country would keep ticking just fine. Apply that to men if they decided not to show up as collective for work one day. The entire country would be set back for years trying to recover from all the damage. There is difference between a female teaching assistant not showing for work then a sewage engineer.

        637. Typical woman who hasn’t even looked at her own cunt, jesus how can you even argue the labia is not a fold of skin. Get a mirror and stick between your legs and have a look you dumb fuck.

        638. Threatening someone that you disagree with in a country with free speech. You’re a dumbass. You probably actually believe this is some silly “pro rape ” group as well. It must be true… The liberal media told me so! Idiot
          Tee hee hee 😉

        641. You’re a disgusting anti-Semite, and you have been reported to the SPLC. Enjoy prison.

        642. Having constant abortions and vacuums shoved up your cunts so far they do occasionally puncture ovaries. Christ, I’ve torn ovaries with my own cock by accident on one occasion. They get damaged from abortions.

        644. Yeah amazing the advantages you get to building your resume when you have centuries of rights versus others no?

        645. I thought you were pro woman yet you just called my mother a slut. Feminist hypocrisy yet again.

        648. Without your mothers womb you would not be here today! Have some dang respect for woman

        650. You’re a joke, without your mothers womb you would not be here. Have fun supporting your pro rape group.

        651. Proving the books work, also when you call men sluts it’s not an insult to us we actually enjoy the term, it means we’re successful at picking up and fucking women.

        653. Yes and I’m replying to your dissenting opinion, if you feel threatened by it than fuck off. No one wants feminist fat cunts like you here, but just like a typical cunt slut you can’t get enough male attention, even if its negative. Go back to Jezebel.

        654. I would slut shame you but I get the feeling you are so profoundly unattractive you can’t even get pity fucks.

        655. And how did she get pregnant in the first place??? Without my Fathers sperm I wouldnt be here either.. did you conveniently forget that??

        656. Like oh my god, it’s on YouTube it must be true!! Are you done being totally stupid or what?

        658. In what way did women not have total freedom to pursue whatever she wanted ? Ok then not last 50 years..lets just say last year ! the numbers are the same. It’s not because you are stupid, it’s because you don’t have the same drive. No woman wants a broke and unsuccessful man(in general), but the same does not apply to women. Thus, we must drive our self to be successful. It’s not a conscious process it’s pure instinctual.

        660. Why is that a bad example and why is her age relevant. She made more money than any man ever did in porn, except perhaps for Mr Holmes himself.

        663. Im afraid I dont get what you are talking about in NFL. What has that to do with the numbers of female inventors and entrepreneurs ?

        664. yes..just a bunch of gutless fools that think they are above woman & the general public..

        665. I agree drive has to be there and nothing should be granted. The numbers, though, are not the same overall.
          However, having the freedom and opportunity has not been equal in the past 50 years. In my first job, I was passed up for a raise and promotion because a man of the same experience and age had a family to take care of. Practically word for word, what I was told.
          I know from experience that it has not been equal, and this incident happened in the 90’s.
          There is a big difference in having the freedom to pursue what they wish, and having roadblocks that others do not have based on gender.
          http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2015/01/14/chapter-1-women-in-leadership/

        667. omg..just the question screams..weirdo! thank christ your gutless leader cancelled the meetings..you lot will NEVER get your way..NEVER..rape on private property to be legalised hahahahaha..its just so laughable

        668. Like oh my god I’m going to cry myself to sleep tonight 😉
          The sad thing that you can’t grasp pumpkin is that I am not the enemy. The media tells you something and you believe like a dumb brainwashed dingbat

        669. Sure the father is a definite help, but who is gonna carry that baby for 9 months and risk death?

        670. I was passed because he was the patriarch – the head of the family. The bread winner. I was just a single woman. Qualifications didn’t matter. Maybe a single man would have been passed up as well, and it wouldn’t have been as discriminatory? However, the consideration was placed on the role in society, not what was earned.
          Having gone through the experience, I don’t know that I would have been given the same consideration had I not performed as well on the job, but was a single mother.

        672. Well that was just tough luck I guess. Or perhaps he was really being a jerk. But I dont personally believe in the wagegap because I haven’t seen it myself. Everywhere I’ve been women made the same as me, or more, even if they were less qualified. Some men made more than me as well even if they sucked. Surely, if there is some truth to it, I’m against it. As is most people here.
          Here we believe that the wagegap is a myth, not that, if it existed, it’s ok.

        673. It probably has as much to do with female inventors and entrepreneurs as the porn industry does.
          However, I was giving an example of the first female coach recently named in the NFL, as a venue that has just, in the 21st century – when we’ve all been equal to pursue whatever dream we wish, allowed the first woman to take a coaching position.
          It’s still not as equal as you’d like to think it is.

        674. you work in law enforcement..of ffs..if you are so brave lets see your name..Im sure your superiors would just love what you are sprouting on here..come on lets see if you do actually have balls..but I think not..please enlighten us

        675. The majority? I’ve known over a dozen women who were in the military and not one of them was “knocked up” in the military. And none of them said that they knew anybody that did that, nor did any men who served. I hardly see how it can be the majority if that’s the case.

        676. ok..lets say..Men are better, smarter, the superior gender..why do you hate woman so much? why do you want them to suffer & agree to rape on private property be legal?

        677. What planet do you live on? Where on this site does anyone talk about raping women? This is a website where men exchange ideas, vvent about world affairs, trade dating tips on how to get better with women, exercise, etc….get a clue lady

        680. Campus rape happens all over the country every day. No matter how much alcohol is consumed, how flirtatious a female is with a male, how far she let it go before changing her mind….if she says NO prior to intercourse or oral sex and a male insists it still happen, it is rape. Just because you get an erection and its now wasted doesn’t mean a female owes you sex

        681. I’m sure they were all telling you the truth. Because we all know women never hide the truth. Clearly you never served. If most taxpayers saw what a good majority of women do in the military they’re be quite pissed ooff

        683. you cant seem to put your “opinion” across without saying fuck either..real classy & a real sicko..god help any women that you meet

        684. Your goal is to be sluts. I didn’t call you a slut, you just can’t read. I don’t believe you are successful.

        685. I never said I was pro-anything. I’m anti-misogyny though. Sounds like your momma was a slut. Ever rape her?

        687. I might agree a BIT on the politics part..though here in Denmark we just had a female prime minister. And Germany, the strongest country in Europe, has a female president as well. The US president is historically male, and that might not be so easy to change. But in what is every day life of 99.9999% of women, there is simply no diskrimination.
          Sure you could claim sports..but thing about sport is that people in general, women alike, prefer to watch the strongest and fastest athletes, and that just happens to be men.
          As for religion ? who cares. It’s not something that happens in the west and you shouldnt worry about it.
          But all that is besides the point. We here at ROK do believe that gender discrimination is a myth…that doesnt mean that we are for it.

        688. Debating an idiot isn’t proof of anything. I took the test, scored in the 99% percentile. That’s all the proof I need. Don’t really care if you believe me, you are scum.

        692. Where on this website is anyone pro rape? Who? Who are they? You run out of arguments and resort to calling people rapists? Seriously you coward of a human being

        693. It’s less existent now, but it has been an issue, and it’s still not completely equal. It is exaggerated in some instances, as well – you can’t compare different fields of work with different qualifications.
          Almost every job I had in the 90’s and early 2000’s has had some sort of instance of it. I was put in charge of hiring a replacement when I left a job, and I hired a male because he matched my own qualifications the best. He was offered a salary higher than my own when I left. No wife, no family.
          One of my early part-time, seasonal jobs I was hired at a lower pay than a male with the same experience. He was fired after a couple of weeks because he was a poor worker. I was eventually given an equal raise, but it was after I had proven myself on the job. He didn’t have to.
          Jobs in the past few years have certainly been more equal in pay. It’s getting there, but there is still a discrepancy.

        694. And without your fathers penis where would you be ? Stop being stupid and stop calling people rapists.

        695. Without a cock the womb will find it hard to produce a child. You are just being silly now. We are one half of each other.

        697. So what ? what the hell has that to do with us here on this site ? No one here is saying bullshit like “God Invented man”.

        699. I assume you meant to put an “it” between “wearing” and “it”. You may be right in the sense that they are referring to a sort of national patriarchy. That is not always a bad thing as it means the man is committed to his nation and his people.

        700. The only cowards are those who can’t take it when others also have opinions other than their own. It’s a shame that this was canceled because i would have been in the front ranks to face you.

        701. A man contributes to procreation for like 5 minutes (you men, anyway). The woman carried you for 9.5 months. The father does not deserve the same amount of credit.

        702. Are you confusing ovaries with a women’s cervix? I honestly can’t decide if your comments are serious or if you’re a comical genius. Either way please keep going, some of the comments on this site are the most entertaining things I’ve read in a long time 😀

        703. Kim once again, where on this website does anyone talk about raping someone? What kind of a coward are you to come here and say ridiculous stuff like that. Anyone who rapes or hurts a woman needs to have their balls cut off in public. You’re a pro rape hysteria psycho is what you are. Pushing a fake rape culture

        707. Ugh, holy shit, stop making MRAs look bad by being concerned about issues in common and then associating yourself with the morons on this website. Just because you’re mad about at least some of the right things doesn’t make your reactions any less fucking retarded.

        708. And who is gonna protect the child and raise him ? Carrying a child is just one part of the equation.

        709. Amy, show me one person on here who is pro rape? You’re such a coward, you run out of arguments and call people rapists? That’s what you do??

        713. I dare you to use your free speech in a predominately black neighborhood and yell the N word. If you spew hatred, expect people who disagree with your message to give it right back

        714. Why does it bother you so much that men have a website to discuss world affairs, dating tips, exercise tips, how to get better with women, the lies that are fed by the media. Why does that bother you so much? Cause you’re not invited. You’re like a little kid who wants into the conversation

        715. My sense of humor Tom, you’re firing on a friendly.
          I just usually don’t respond directly to the trolls choosing instead to bounce off nearby fellow ROKers. You’ll notice I did so with another (James Smith) further down, he got it.

        717. We have other functions, like protecting and raising the child in other stages of it’s life.. The woman and man are equal in this aspect. You can’t say that you have more importance just because you carry a child 9 months out of its entire life.

        719. Why would I ever call anyone the n word? Some of my closest friends in the military are black. I put my life on the line for them. You’re the one spouting hate

        721. Can any geek tell me that Lovelace was the first programmer?
          1) “No, this is idiotic. No one who is an expert in the field thinks she was the first computer programmer.
          If you are interested in hearing from experts who study this professionally(instead of a random person on the internet) please watch this video:

          And the biographer that website mentions by name says that Ada Lovelace is not the first computer programmer.
          http://www.salon.com/1999/03/16/feature_217/
          The real answer to this question is to look at the facts, not talk about Lovelace’s qualities and the question of women in computing(that is a far larger issue).
          This website tries to mislead people by segueing into a conversation about people attacking Lovelace because she is a woman instead of looking directly at the source material. That is why every person who professionally studies this believe that Lovelace was not the first computer programmer.”
          2) http://www.juliansanchez.com/2012/10/16/much-ada-about-nothing/
          3) https://www.quora.com/Can-Ada-Lovelace-be-regarded-as-the-first-programmer
          4) https://thonyc.wordpress.com/2013/10/08/mary-somerville-was-not-the-first-scientist-and-ada-lovelace-did-not-inspire-the-first-modern-computer/

        723. “No one will ever take this “movement” seriously” Yet big media outlets got out of their way to spread lies about us. And people such as you rushed in great number to voice their outrage against us.
          If I may say, We seem to have created quite a commotion for a movement “nobody takes seriously”.
          But hey, keep trying.

        725. That’s assuming it doesn’t get in the way of her career, hobbies, reality television scheduling or “me” time and she decides to have the baby executed..

        726. You wouldn’t do it simply because you found a weaker target in your mind…women. You know you’d get your ass handed to you in a bad neighborhood spewing your “freedom of speech” . I kind of which this event had not been cancelled. I know in one particular city you would have had a large turnout of young men supporting fellow female college students. You ever see a group of 200-300 rowdy drunk frat boys?

        727. What? How on earth did the conversation get onto intelligence differences between races?

        729. That is your personal experience. There might be various variables in play here. You can’t be sure that what happened was because you are a woman.
          Did you compare yourself to everyone in the company ? perhaps there was also men who was paid less than you. You can’t just say “That man makes more money than me=patriarchy”.
          Like I said, some guys make more than me for the same work. I cant obviously cry patriarchy..

        730. So he can risk losing his job just to prove a point to a bunch of faceless nobodies? That ain’t even brave, that’s just stupid.

        731. Clearly you can’t tell the difference between someone being serious and someone being an asshole to prove a point. You’re a coward. You run out arguments and call people rapists. You’re a real genius.

        732. I’m just wondering, Return of Kings have articles about that as well. That’s how we got “onto” it.

        733. You are correct. I would like to dismember Daryush Valizadeh and dissolve his body in acid, maybe eat his liver first.
          I wouldn’t flinch if someone did the same to you, either.

        734. I’d say if it happened once, then sure. I named 3 different employers, though. There’s a little smoke there.

        735. No but I’ve had a few hundred pissed off Muslims pointing guns at me. Your tough talk doesn’t scare me you fat pig and neither do frat boys

        736. Women are not suited to train men. It’s not because they are bad trainers but women have a distracting effect on men, because of the whole sex thing.

        737. I can name at least three employers as well where other guys (and girls) made more than me for the same work. I don’t think that proves much. Also, like I said, you probably made more money than SOME of the guys there right ?

        738. But regardless of it all, it looks as if you think that the users of ROK thinks that women should be paid less which is not the case at all.

        739. It makes me laugh when sociopaths like you actually think that they have a moral high ground over us. Charming, really.

        741. I’m not overweight you pencil-dicked, jobless, woman hating basement dweller. Show up at one of these meets near a college town and express your freedom of speech again women…I dare you

        742. I hate it that you feel misrepresented by the media. The world shoud know what you REALLY think, and then have their opinions on you based on that. But what I don’t understand is why you aren’t mad at your representative/spokesman, Roosh. He should have stopped satirizing and ultimately let the world know what you TRULY believe in, instead I think he made you look like fools, because he was writing to everyone looking a fool, simply because people weren’t in in his joke. He didn’t have the tenacity to get real and stand for your real beliefs. You could have had a voice. I believe in freedom of speech. I have been reading ROK articles and I do not agree with many things, and it’s hard for me to understand why would someone believe such a thing like a man is more intelligent than a woman. Nonetheless, I try to understand and engage in conversation, and not in hate. But if you are going to be hiding your ideals behind a person that only makes you look like morons and get censured everyone because he DID in fact say atrocities -it just happens that only you ROK members and people paying close attention see there’s satire involved- the world sees your group as atrocious. You can say many people are sheep, media is mediocre, etc., and you can be right or wrong, but despite all that, YOU didn’t help yourselves by hiding behind someone that clearly is more interested in shock value, in gaining notoriety and clicks and very likely money on his pocket, INSTEAD of furthering your interests. So, ultimately, I think his joke is on you too.

        743. I know how to have moral high ground over everyone. I simply choose a different path. The pathetic individuals group thinking on this site no doubt suffer from serious complexes. It is quite sad they have no control over their emotions.

        744. Yes show them Adam! I personally have been gassed 6 million times and only managed to survive by saving air in my big nose. Never again shall we be made into lampshades and soap.

        745. Aren’t all races equal? What are the differences? Sincerely asking. Please, if you believe some races are more intelligent than others, explain to me why, because I have never seen or heard anything that made me believe that.

        746. You’re doing a great job of proving how stupid you are. We’re anti feminists. We can’t stand bat shit crazy feminist lies. No one here is anti woman. And if anyone is they’re morons.
          Jobless? If you’re college age I was fighting for this country when you were in diapers and I now have a great job. You have no world experience. Whaa!!! Let me guess, you’re going to go protest like a little baby now. Tell your little pussy pencil dick frat boys I said hi

        747. The only thing I wrote was that some races have higher AVERAGE intelligence than other races. Meaning that whites have average IQ over a 100, while for example the average black IQ is much lower. And you also write that you have never seen or heard anything that made you believe that, and I find that strange, because there is not a single thing in this entire world that shows that races as groups are equal in intelligence, not a thing, and I dare you to name one that does.

        748. Tracy Lords LIED about her age to GET INTO PORN to get into acting.
          Truth be told, women now are making so men DO NOT want to interact with them because they cry wolf at the drop of a hat. They flip flop and change their mind on the fly and want everyone to play along – hence the “rape culture” MYTH that WOMEN STOLE and CHANGE to FIT their narrative. That is what the outspoken women (who mind you REAL women who know their place in life/nature do not agree with) have done. They feel they can speak for all women, but they do and the women who remember the good days do not agree.
          Men don’t want drama and these outspoken women who want cart blanch to change their mind all the time do. We also don’t want to have to figure out if it’s game on or rained out depending on the moment or late on get accused of rape cos the girl felt remorse the next day from sex.
          The fact is Minime13 that women have supported men in this country since it’s inception and we couldn’t have populated this country without you. But women (for the most part) do not belong in the military. Women want to prove they are equal to men, but only if they change the game so that their weaknesses are not exposed – like common core school programs – lower the bar and everyone passes right?
          Men have built most of what this country has and now women and SJW want to erase the past (like ISIS in the middle east) because it doesn’t fit what they want or the SJW get their feels hurt.
          You want your cake baked my men then you want us to spoon feed it to you because of history, but I am sorry it doesn’t work like that and we are tired of being your whipping post.

        750. I am going to out on a limb here and say the guy who said that was more than likely being sarcastic because of trolls like Amy who say we “rape” women. So this person was throwing mud at you and you are using this (once again) to support your narrative even though it is taken out of context (like the Rape Culture crap you spew).

        752. YAY more death threats by the good guys!
          So glad to hear you think so highly of Roosh, he does live a healthy lifestyle so his liver would do good for you.
          The downside is this is actually considered a threat by law enforcement. Also if this was one of our readers on your message boards you would have the cops show up to their house and arrest them on the grounds of assault.
          Lucky for you Roosh has more class than that.
          Sorry our balls cause you such grief but we are not going to give up much to your chagrin

        753. A number of your peers would disagree. And, you are a liar as well. “growing up” is code for “become one of us or die”.

        756. Never claimed such crazy thing. I said many were accused and the mere accusation was enough to get them expelled, and having their reputation ruined for life. Don’t you see what potent weapon that is in the right (wrong) hands ? anyone you get pissed at you can get back at, with a vengeance.

        758. Regardless of what you or I think, that are opposites, can you back up your claim with research, statistics, anything that is not just an opinion?
          Also, if you can say one thing that shows these difference you mention, please tell me, because I on the contrary can’t think of anything that makes us different, besides the color of skin, facial features and cultural differences.

        759. Nope. Men and women are wired differently, and have different goals. Women want STUFF, men want to protect and provide. And you don’t appreciate us for it.
          There has never been a successful matriarchal society. This is no coincidence. Your priorities lead to extinction, every time it has been attempted.

        761. I don’t have any message board you worthless piece of shit. Someone I used to care about was drugged and raped by multiple wastes of space like the sad men who type things here while getting half chubs.

        765. I chuckled at that. It sounds as hollow as something you’d hear on a campaign trail. You and I both know this.
          Concrete examples of your claim, por favor.

        766. Your comment is the heart of the self-babying, self-infantilization that MRA groups resort to when someone tells them that their bullshit doesn’t fly. First, you clearly have no grasp on what freedom of association is (though really, I think you mean assembly, which I assume you also don’t understand).
          The constitution guarantees that the government won’t make any law abridging the right to peaceably assemble. It doesn’t guarantee that people can’t say what they want about your meetings. No laws were passed in the last few days preventing you from assembling. Your right is in tact. Just because you’re a bunch of frightened little man-babies doesn’t mean that your rights were infringed on.

        767. I said in PROCREATION dumbass. Creating and growing the fetus until you have a baby. Learn to fucking read and check the context.
          Plus, no way in hell ANY of you are even halfway decent fathers.

        768. The easy solution is keep your dick in your pants and you’ll have nothing to worry about

        769. It’s the comments about rape, violence, control, removal of rights, imprisonment, actual war, etc. that I have a problem with. Check your butt buddies, that’s what many of them see as your end game.

        771. No you don’t you love them, there is a masculinity deficit in your life and that’s why being here arguing with cavemen is giving your ginny a tingle.

        772. Yea, he’s the end all be all to what’s cool, huh?
          I’ve only mentioned it when my intelligence was being questioned, so that’s on you idiots.

        773. I’m sure there’s a few idiot trolls on here who say things to ruffle feathers. But this is not a pro rape site in any way shape or form and you know it. I don’t need to check my butt buddies. No one on here actually knows each other you dummy

        774. Yea because I don’t want some social justice cry baby like you protesting until I get fired just because we had a disagreement and I hurt your little feelings. Why don’t you go back to your unicorns and rainbows where everything’s fair you cry baby

        775. Better talk to your buddies then. Sure seems like a pro-rape site. And pro-violence and pro-putting all women in cages.

        776. If you’re all claiming membership in a group, it’d be a good idea to make sure you all share the same values. You joined a pro-rape group even if you do not think you are pro-rape.

        777. Not arguing, insulting. No tingling. Don’t flatter yourself.
          If I had a masculinity deficient I certainly wouldn’t look to fill that void in this group of pathetic losers.

        780. Actually it’s pathetic. And This isn’t misandry, you apparently don’t know what that word means.

        781. Yes indeed, the Western school system was designed in Prussia for the express purpose of regimenting society into doing what it was told, the school and university system has nothing to do with intelligence but is a filter to remove all who are unlikely or refuse to repeat exactly what is put in front of them and do as they are told, if you pass through this filter the establishment rewards you with a piece of paper enabling you (a fully qualified mindless drone) to occupy some gate-keeping position in their bureaucracy.
          It is no surprise that every most billionaires and men/women that have moved society forward in major ways are high school dropouts, why?
          Because they think for themselves and therefore unacceptable to the school/indoctrination system.

        782. Can we watch you throw a temper tantrum now that you’ve run out of arguments and resort to falsely accusing people of rape… that would totally make my day 🙂

        786. We dont, That is the whole point. We dont like rape. I dont know how to explain it to you..and we dont even think we are smarter.

        790. Lol nice – there will be a great paying job for women like you soon loading people into ovens.
          Several character traits will be highly sought, an Elitist, thinking your above everyone else is vital, Narcissism, being highly Judgemental and plain old Ignorance mixed with an underlying Jealousy and seething Anger will be necessary to enable entire groups of people to be broadly categorized as bad, de humanized and then loaded into ovens – wow all these feminists are going to make the oncoming mass genocide of Western civilization really easy for the elite..

        792. Actually no…most experts agree Lovelace although talented was a prop used by Babbage. I don’t feel like looking up all the rest of what you posted but its likely more political truth stretching like when people try to ‘prove’ x group has invented just as much as evil white men. In any case don’t try misdirect the argument. Nobody said ‘women never invented a single thing’ the argument was men invented and built way more than woman. Go ahead and try to show that is wrong. Also speaking of education, try to get one outside of Buzzfeed top 10 lists.

        794. Lol that’s it baby – pull the handle on that gas chamber – your paid as much as a man, good girl the elite loves you.

        795. You know, I have been in so many of these “debates” that I just don’t care about providing sources anymore, if I point you to any IQ research or something like the book IQ and the Wealth of Nations you will tell me that IQ is meaningless although it obviously measures something, if I point you to breakthroughs in the field of anthropology and other fields before they were subverted by Gould, Diamond, Boas and others, and even though these guys have been proven to falsify research, and I showed evidence for example that African brains are smaller you would say that research was done by racists or that they falsified their research to support their biases (Race research doesn’t get any funding so one has to go by old stuff, so when you ask for “new” research, that’s not easy to provide). There are so many different kinds of studies, such as adoption studies for example that shows this clearly, but you will say something vacuous and then think you won the argument.
          You know what I think is the problem when you speak to people about racial differences in intelligence? And this is a realization that came to me after a loooong time of doing it.
          People don’t actually believe there are intelligence differences within their own race, they think every person is born as a blank slate, and then all that matters is how many books you read or how well you get educated (everyone has the same genetic ability), how is it that if people don’t believe their own children can be dumber than anyone elses, how will make them understand that a race on average can be more intelligent than the other?
          “Also, if you can say one thing that shows these difference you mention,
          please tell me, because I on the contrary can’t think of anything that
          makes us different, besides the color of skin, facial features and
          cultural differences.”
          I did mention a few things but basically everything tells us this story no? History, cultural and technological achievements by civilizations, school results, economies, innovativeness, IQ tests or any other form of intelligence testing, crime rates.
          I know it’s a popular “argument” about those arguing the anti-racist agenda to shove the entire burden of proof on the “racist”, and then when evidence is provided saying it’s not “good enough” (in often silly words). I think this is because they have nothing to back up their claims that the races are equal, they simply mostly go towards shutting the discussion down and personal attacks.
          But I dare you again to mention one thing (if you can), that shows how we are not different in any area that somehow requires intelligence or any result or anything that shows equal intelligence.
          If you are so convinced the races got equal genetic capabilities in intelligence you should be able to say one thing.

        796. Women overall have been the most privileged sex throughout history not just the past few decades. You’d have to be really stupid to believe otherwise. Unless you think dying by the millions in war and by far being the ones toiling in the hot fields and doing the most physically demanding tasks is a privilege.

        797. Wow awesome, now all that’s left is for you to load all the White men left into ovens then you can pull the handle mmm nice hey.
          Oh hang on a minute, then you will be back to the Jungle, no social welfare, affirmative action or anyone to defend you from the rampaging third world mobs mmm enjoy that future haha

        798. No need. Have a wife. And she’s quite pleasant to be around.
          She doesn’t waste her time trolling sites where she knows she’s not welcome.

        799. IQ isn’t a measure of knowledge, moron. Also, I didn’t say I’m a member, I said I qualified. I wasnt interested in paying the dues to go to random meet ups.
          Educate yourself.

        807. If a mob was out to get you, you would hide as well. Your views are completely “main stream” so you don’t have to fear a thing.
          You want us to respect you, a woman, living in the deepest of White Knight land, for airing the most political correct of the most political correct ?

        809. Lol wow – so by that logic I guess because you can have children Women don’t deserve the same credit in a workplace?

        811. Which IQ test were you going by? How and who scored it?
          I am well aware of how Mensa works. Unlike you I did not bother to seek it out I was invited to join by several members. They came looking for me and I of course refused them.
          And again, judging by your sterling personality I am sure they would have loved to have you about. Someone needs to be the incessant screech monster of the group.
          Then again I am quite sure you would have been an Affirmative Action recruit.

        812. I don’t understand what everyone is on about. Trying to prove a point aggressively with the person you are arguing with is pointless. Just let it be and please make a better use of your time. This goes out to everyone.

        818. If you get ur ass kicked when you speak your mind, how is that free speech ? And why do you need young men ? I thought women could handle it all, by themselves. They don’t need men for anything. Right ?

        820. If you don’t think this website is dedicated to misogyny, you don’t know what misogyny is.

        822. Did this morning but thanks for your concern.
          I’m only talking about your micro dicks, of which I have zero sexual interest.

        826. Seriously, how completely retarded are you ? You think that FBI needs your notification ? If there was a threat, you dont think they’ve figured it out by themselves long ago ?

        827. “You Men make me mad, I will report you to other Men!”
          Feeeelings, whoa whoa whoaaaaaa hurt FEEEELINGS

        829. nope, not denial. Denial would be making it illegal. its not. if you dont’ have the balls to go through with your party, thats your problem.

        837. No, men don’t make me mad. Misogynists do. There are females in law enforcement as well anyway idiot.

        838. You’re terrorists and I know several people have contacted them about you. Many local police have their eye on you too.

        839. Ok, I will continue not to, just like before.
          I said I qualified, I didn’t join dumbass.

        840. Nobody is denying you anything. You just don’t have the balls to exercise your rights. You’re afraid of women and apparently you’re afraid of defending yourselves in public. I don’t blame you. You are such assholes that you should slink away. Keep the fuck out of San Antonio. You were never welcome here. Have your next circle jerk in Idaho or someplace. I wish you could see what dickless assholes you are. If that day ever comes, you will shut the fuck up. The rest of us can only wait.

        841. Not even going to look at that. Don’t care about anything a freak like you would send to me.

        844. whaaaa. This is a bad argument. I am 100% pro feminist, and I know many amazing dads who contribute just as much to their children and their welfare as the moms. The women deserve all the love and support for the amazing work of bearing the child, but your comment reduces men to sperm banks… Let’s not get into the kind of talk that MRAs accuse people of!

        845. You don’t get invited dumbass. You have to pass one of the qualifying exams. Just outed your own lie! Haha
          I took the one provided by Mensa. Again, I didn’t join so I’m not sure why you’re talking like I’m a member. I qualified, which is based on a test score measuring reasoning ability.

        847. I’m sorry mate, but what is ‘being an asshole to prove a point’? The law is pretty clear about rape threats and cyberbullying, and it’s not up to the reader to decide whether a comment such as we will rape you is serious or not. In fact, we are taught to take threats seriously in order to protect the maximum number of people from harm.

        848. It takes a LOT of interpretation to get that idea from what the guy said. A clearer and less convoluted interpretation would be that he wanted the reader to fear him and feel paranoid that someone might actually find her and rape her.

        850. One thing that is so funny about MRAs is how they use condescending insults to try and goad their opponents into losing their cool. It’s such a common trait, it almost defines the movement. ‘Pumpkin’ is a novel variation on the theme.

        852. Allying yourself with law enforcement makes you anti BLM, so enjoy you racist who doesn’t care about Black Lives! They have it so much worse than you, haven’t you watched the news? Way to marginalize an entire group – wait………….. you already do that daily. Enjoy your bigoted worldview, we’re done here you racial bigot.

        853. ROK really needs more admins to ban split tails and their faggoty white knights from trolling this site.
          Let the ISIS extremists come in like the fucktard EuroTrash and murder all these femcunts after violating them into a bloody fish bucket.

        854. I see comprehension is not your forte… but verbal masturbation is.
          As I mentioned, Mensa did not invite me, several members were very curious and invited me to test. I run around a smart circle of friends.
          Yeah, Affirmative Action is strong in you.
          That help little sugar dumpling?

        855. You would be a bartender, sounds like it would suit your level of intellect.
          I’m talking about actual careers hun ones that involve a salary, not some menial job that involves the worker relying on tips haha, obviously your gender and location can influence who gets tipped more.

        858. Hahaha. I don’t think you have met a real genius then. A lot of the low-level ones are super insecure. They know their work is never going to be as groundbreaking as the ‘famous’ geniuses, and they burn themselves out, always in the middle of the pack, often trying to prove to their peers and families that they are worth the title ‘genius’… just like the rest of us, but on a higher stratum.

        859. Whys that reading “My Secret Garden” are we?
          I thought you had been a bit quiet, now I hope you paid for that and didn’t download it for free, I mean surely a woman wouldn’t betray another woman for a few bucks or if its something she wanted haha no never happened ever lol.

        861. THIS haha I know a a bunch of bartenders here in SF and the men typically get more tips. Not like it matters since his job has nothing to do with the point being made.

        862. I doubt that a feminist on the internet has the legal power to deny him a basic right of association. If you want to organize a meetup, just do so. Legally, no feminist can stop you. However, freedoms go both way, and whether you like it or not, people have a right to talk about your “meetup” in any way they like, just as you can talk about women and men’s issues any way you like. At the end of the day, regardless of the reason(s) why, Roosh himself made the decision to cancel it. End of story.

        863. Gender is a social construct. This comment shames transgendered women, who cannot carry children for 9.5 months.

        865. I didn’t call myself a feminist and won’t be told how or what to think/say by you any more than I will these misogynists. You missed the context. Sorry. Never tell me how to speak again.

        869. This comment harms people with cognitive disabilities. Amy Marie’s words are an act of violence.

        871. I really, truly couldn’t care less about it but whatever you have to do to make yourself feel better.

        874. I’m actually working on my Master’s, so I read peer-reviewed literature (look it up sometime, although I know you won’t based off of how fast you got back to my comment, you’re clearly very busy being a keyboard warrior on here) and don’t need to show any ~silly~ graphs to advance some ignorant life form’s low level of IQ. But you enjoy serving shit shows their alcohol though, sounds like you’re doing real well for yourself and are actually the one who is way more qualified to make a sandwich and suck some dick! If you can find someone who even would want you to.

        875. The term “idiots” is insensitive and marginalizes people with cognitive disabilities. This comment is the product of ableism.

        878. Nice deflection! It’s adorable that you wrote me a short story on here. Solid entertainment 10/10

        881. Buttering up PCCop with terms like “honey” will not spare Amy Marie a long term of hard labor in the cat mines of New Dworkonia come the revolution.

        882. Look, it’s not women’s fault you’re ugly and can’t get laid. Well except for your mom, it’s a bit her fault.

        883. Actually no but nice try again. I get your gimmick but you aren’t that good at it. Feel free to keep it up but I’m done answering you.

        892. I understand you might be tired of repeating yourself in these “debates” and that you’ve had similar reactions in the past, etc., but if you start second-guessing the other person, and you fall in dejection about exchanging ideas, you risk becoming as a sheep as the people you, or at least ROK, points at as oblivious.
          Regardless of that, truth is that right now in my part of the world it’s very late so I also don’t feel like throwing researches at each other, what I am most interested about, is knowing whether you believe differences make a certain group superior or not. Let’s not even discuss racism, because after first exchanging comments with you I did my google search and read various things from both sides, including the adoption research you mention, etc., and in all truth it is hard to conclude in 1 hour of reading this things, because I am not qualified enough to estimate that quickly which researches are reliable, current, etc. So let’s not even get into that. I think we can both agree that there is a blatant genetic difference between genders, so let’s use that as the example. They possess different traits, and some of them we know are genetic, and some we wonder if they are cultural, etc. (we might disagree which ones, but it doesn’t matter & let’s not even get into it if it depends on me). What I wonder is: do you believe people from different races and genders are equal in terms of worth, or not? That some are more rightful? And that in that sense they can exert dominance towards the other? Be it a male over a woman, a white Caucasian over a Black person or Asian, or whatever combination of these groups?
          About the last question (just because I don’t want to finish this answer without addressing it somehow), I would accept the dare, it’s just that I don’t really understand the question, or, better said, I don’t see how I could give such example, for me the examples are everywhere. Hmm, picking one maybe, I would say for exe. that women perform much better in education than men, but later on they perform less professionally. So I wouldn’t say either men nor women in average are smarter than the other, but that there are some other factors that are into play. Many factors, just to throw one, for exe. less is expected of women professionally, she can be a stay at home mom and society wouldn’t ridicule her as much as they would a man, while men have the pressure of performing economically, that’s the rule that society measures them with; historically women are measured by youth and looks, so eventually the put attention and time into things that are less rewarding economically and in the long run. Also, boys are more disperse in youth and so many perform badly (the typical “boys will be boys”) and women are more sensitive to approval (maybe that is changing, I have no idea) an so boys keep being told that if they behave, etc., they will do good. And eventually most that stay in the education system do. So they learn to improve and realize effort=improvement, while women reason differently, they have been told they are good, they are smart, but somehow they think of these traits static, whether they ARE something or not, they don’t see themselves as works in progress as much as men do, and that is why many women are always second guessing themselves, and maybe from that pain is where some feminists anger comes from, who knows, I am thinking out loud in this final thought).
          But what interests me more is to know, despite the differences that may or may not exist, if you see unequal worth, rights, etc.

        893. Amy Marie shall not feel so flippant when the Thought Crime Tribunal sentences Amy Marie to fight as a slave gladiator in the arenas of Steinemnia come the revolution. Oh, Amy Marie shall utter cries of lamentation on that day!

        895. PCCop’s “group” is Intersectional Enforcement Corps 9: Cyber Thought Crime Division. PCCop is a double transgender hermaphrodite.

        896. Well, you did LOL at me, so I am basing it on your reaction. Thanks for marginalizing a minority, put it on your resume of social justice after your 4 hour nap and 12 hour posting binge/trolling

        901. Nice strawman there luv but unfortunately for you your dealing with a man here, not good enough and im almost certain you can do better.
          Its not often I get to argue with a remotely cogent. mensa. self appointed feminist and I expect more from you and if you fail me ill be very disappointed..

        902. Amy Marie shall learn to care after seven months reprograming at the hands of the Kommissars of the Royal Sarkeesian Guard.

        904. *you’re
          Also, please show me ONE comment where I said I was a feminist. I’d love to see it.

        906. Modern feminist everyone: We don’t care about you or your life, only that we get OUR message across as loud as possible, fuck everything else. Racist and Narcissist to the end. Enjoy your privileged life, white woman on easymode. Go back to your jobless 12 hour post spree and be forgotten. We’re out here fighting for mens rights of any color. You’re coloring others wrong with your words and actions. At the end of the day, the paint washes off and actions are louder.

        910. Ig you think im doing those spelling mistakes deliberately just to get you riled up your actually wrong – its rooshes fucking script he needs to sort out – anyway there’s no need for you to justify yourself to me im not going to let you suck my dick.

        911. “Life is not a competition about men against women.”
          Then advise the Femarxists to knock it off with their Gender War bullshit.

        913. Maybe the servers overwhelmed, 4 to 6 second delay when typing to text appearing on screen, anyone else getting this?
          Maybe just echelon kicking in, joys of being alt right and popular with elitist perverts I guess -sigh –

        915. “Cool” describes Antarctic Ice Station Jezebel where Amy Marie shall toil as a penguin groomer should Amy Marie survive the death pits of Steinemnia.

        916. Hypocrites. Choose any one of numerous feminist rags that spew worse, yet you give them the pussy pass. But men want to meet and discuss what men everywhere discuss, how to be better, get to know one another, and meet women; and you two faced assholes go out of your way to threaten, intimidate, and harass. Even going so far as to get these people arrested if they show up.
          I’m glad you morons have done what you’ve done!
          Because you fools never learn, people now know about us, and will check. This is not defeat. It is a set back.
          The next meeting will certainly be awesome. When you weaklings can no longer count on the ignorance of the masses to take you at your word.
          Roosh may not be my hero. But he is not a rapist. Mencken said it best: “Immorality: The morality of those who are having a better time.”

        917. lying about their beliefs? It’s all there in Roosh’es blog. It’s pretty clear, and thre’s no way to lie about it. Freedom of association? Hitler and the president of my country used their association right with the wrong purposes and they’ve killed thousands. Every right is used in different contexts. You bone heads are just trying to get some of your self esteem back from someone who didn’t take it.

        918. The only pathetic ingrate here is you two faced lying hypocrites.
          You don’t fear Roosh, as you know he is not a rapist. You conniving pussies were merely using him to target MRAs.
          These men have a right to meet. Not be beaten by a lunatic mob that is too ignorant to read both sides of an argument.
          Had these fools actually read what is said, they would know the Roosh IS NOT AN MRA! He is a PUA.
          Also, they would realize that he does not promote rape. However you may agree, or disagree with his pov.
          It is precisely you weak, pathetic losers MO on display here, why men keep themselves anonymous. We are not going to risk all we have worked for just so the castrati can lie about everyone.
          The fact is simple. You don’t fear any part of the men’s movement because it is a threat to your person. You fear it because it is a threat to your domination of young males minds.
          If you can no longer brain wash young males minds, then you will actually have to communicate with them, when extortion by litigation is no longer viable.

        920. Enjoy this tsunami of momentum. It will pass. Especially when cooler heads prevail, and out you lies for the fraud you have committed.
          You think this is some sort of final blow against the men’s movement, you’re mistaken.
          People can read. When they settle down, and read that what you wrote is bogus, and you most likely have not read anything, they will come to Roosh’s blogs and forums with fresh eyes.
          You idiots have not achieved much of anything.

        921. Ohhh now I know that you know that this isn’t the case, you have met your match and then some, now you seem to have disappeared again and if your off to bed I dont want you touching yourself and thinking of me ravishing you, Im sick of your type along with lesbians, self appointed emotionally broken SJW’s with daddy issues and bitchy thin lipped man jawed lawyer types raping me with your mind!

        923. LOL you need a reality check. You might be the most delusional person in this group. I’m done with you in particular. Comment to me all you want but I won’t be responding to a limp dick little bitch like you anymore.

        925. You had the chance to invent those things, cause years ago we weren’t allowed to go to college in the first place. Guess who banned us from doing that?..yes, genius, you did. Have you ever researched about female inventors? you might as well be using something invented by a woman…oh right! wireless technology!!! , or a fire scape, or the refrigerator as we now know it. Stop using them, man, they’re here by the ideas of us devils. JERK.

        926. Uhh… you do realize that the Wright brothers didn’t receive any
          education yet they made the first flying machine, right? Guys also have the
          advantage of being more ambitious on average.

        927. “What I wonder is: do you believe people from different races and genders
          are equal in terms of worth, or not? That some are more rightful? And
          that in that sense they can exert dominance towards the other? Be it a
          male over a woman, a white Caucasian over a Black person or Asian, or
          whatever combination of these groups?”
          Well, to begin with let me point out that everything means different things to everyone, especially words such as “superior”, for example, I have been called an anti-feminist because I’m against affirmative action for women, so labels mean different things to different people.
          So when you ask: “what I am most interested about, is knowing whether you believe differences make a certain group superior or not”
          That is a very hard question to answer, since I don’t know what you mean by superior. Also it’s not something I have thought about much.
          Let’s begin with the first one, equal in terms of worth, in terms of worth to who or what? If you are just speaking of basic human worth then sure, though I would probably be a bit unsure about evil people such as those that murder children etc, but that’s another issue. A good example could be this lie of everyone having the chance to do well just as long as they get education etc, this is simply not possibly since everyone is not of equal intelligence, so that makes life very unfair in the sense that a person can become a maid or whatever, but not be intelligent enough (genetically) to get an education and a high paid position, yet no-one can say that labour intensive work isn’t hard work. So there is an unfairness there.
          I do believe that culture is to some extent a genetic expression, and I am not one of those that believe that culture is neutral, obviously some cultures are “superior” to others, and you can see that in results, the well-being of those living in that culture etc.
          However that doesn’t mean I think we should involve ourselves at all in other cultures, that just leads to war and so on. Though I think that Empires such as the British Empire was a good thing, I don’t think it’s the policy I would have chosen. One also have to be able to realize certain things though, such as that South Africa was basically a large empty land area when the Dutch settled there, and that blacks immigrated, yet now it’s “black” territory? And if we speak of race and so on, lot of nations that used to be Christian and White are now inhabited by Arabs.
          But yeah, I basically believe that human beings have an equal worth, and not even in a religious sense, also an equal right to live their lifes to the best of their ability. And I wouldn’t involve myself in that life because I think I could civilize them or anything (let’s not forget that was a mission of the left more than right).
          But let’s also consider certain facts, Africans for example are sitting on tons of natural resources they would have had no use for in their society, would it then be unfair of us to take them? I don’t think so, since they would not have used them anyhow. Africa was also very sparsely populated, and peoples like the Brits spend millions of pounds (billions today) on buying land from local tribes, now if this transaction happened, who does the land belong to?
          Greenland is also a good example, Greenland was settle by the Norse centuries before the Inuit started immigrating and slaughtered the Norse. Does Greenland belong to Norse or Inuit descendants? (If land can belong to anyone).
          I mean it’s a complicated situation with labels and things that mean different things to different people, and there is also a lot of propaganda and other things.
          Anyhow, on the “dare”, notice that your example had nothing to do with racial differences in intelligence, but I will respond anyhow. (And I would like to hear an example on the actual dare, which was anything that shows the races to have equal ability of intelligence).
          A lot of people claim that women are doing better in education, for example one argument we hear often is that “women have taken over the universities”, and I mean, this is only true if you look at the total picture, but what subjects do women study? gender studies, women studies, african-american studies and so on, the STEM fields are still mostly and extremely male-dominated, Engineering and so on, and it seems to me that men mostly only enter fields that they know will provide a high pay in the future.
          Something we must realize here is that women and men have different curves for intelligence, women mostly cluster around average intelligence, while men mostly cluster in the extremes, so that means there are a lot of stupid men, but also a lot of very smart men, so for example, over an IQ of 140, there is 7 times more men than women, and I think we can see this in men going into the math fields and being successful in their professional lives.
          When it comes to womens performance in high school etc, first of all, boys have basically everything against them, everything about our school system advantages girls, much of the traditional parts of schooling for boys have almost completely been removed, such as competition etc (which I loved as a child in school the extremely few times we had it). I know at least in my country of Sweden they look at why girls doesn’t perform as well at tests as boys (math for example), then they change the questions to what they think girls will have an easier time to answer. We also see a difference here because grammar and high school rewards the average student, and this difference is because I said there is a lot of stupid boys, but also many smart ones. I also think those boys that plan on going into labour-intensive occupations don’t bother with their education much. (I ended up with working class boys in grammar school during an experiment our school did by putting rich kids with working class kids). It’s also the case that the occupation of teaching is completely female-dominated, if this is important I dont’ know, but it has been proven in Swedish research that girls get higher marks in comparison with their school work and test results, so it’s proven at least here that boys are discriminated. So I don’t buy the whole “girls outperform boys”.
          But let me explain more what I meant, it’s well known that two things are associated with crime, low intelligence and higher than average testosterone (testo is the least important one though), now when we look at racial crime rates when can see that blacks are extremely overrepresented in crime, if we already know that low intelligence is a marker for criminality, this tells us that blacks as a group have more people with low intelligence. So this is one example how you can see difference in average racial ability. (Then ofc people make a lot of excuses for this).
          And I meant the same with IQ testing, school results etc. In this spirit there is basically nothing that tells us the races got equal ability in intelligence. We can’t look anywhere in the world and say “this tells us blacks and whites have equal ability on average”.

        930. Hey, in both parts, men and feminists, they are people we can talk to and stupid people. If feminist clean up their part, we surely do the same here.

        932. Mmmm I cant deny im somewhat glad you have singled me out in particular for special emotional attention, a woman scorned is a horrifying thing to behold, glad in got your ginny tingling anyway.

        947. I can read, dumbass. The comments and the articles. Some of your buddies wanna put women in cages.

        954. What about forbidding or demanding people not to meet together.. It is clearly a attempt to submission too.

        955. They are many species of men here, as well there are many divergent voices in feminism. Stop generalizing.

        956. Bad humor and name calling. I pity you really. Your father should not.be proud of you. But perhaps you hate him.so.it doesnt matter

        958. I know what it is. It means disagreeing with a female. It means quite a lot of things are misogynistic .

        963. Dont kid yourself. Who cares if she is broke if she looks good and has a good ass ? Even if she has money she aint never gonna give you any.

        966. Anyone who is not a self-aggrandizing, misogynist PIG like you and your ilk is a “real winner,” LOSER. You are disgusting, and if your mother knew about all of this, she’d pretend she wasn’t your mother. LOSER.

        967. threat to women? what a strange sentiment. One wonders whether it comes from stupidity, naivety or some hidden, less wholesome, motive

        970. Have you considered that perhaps you are the problem?
          Or did that never occur to you? [Don’t worry; it never occurs to any female…]
          I’m willing to bet you will find the same thing even if you worked for women. You dont deserve a payrise just because ‘vagina’.
          My business has over 28 staff members and it’s always the female staff that have far higher expectations of what they ‘deserve’ than the men.
          We have the feminist mantra “You can have it all” to blame for this. Every woman ON THE PLANET believes she SHOULD be the CEO. Obviously this is demographically and statistically impossible.
          It is within the best interest of any employer to have the best person for the job. Just so happens the men usually perform better so they get the promotion.
          You will find the markets are incredibly efficient in their price discovery methods/mechanisms. Numbers and Profits do not lie!
          If i could demonstrably make more money with a female in a certain role then she would have the job. Money is the sole reason to be in business. Performance. Not oppression of women!
          For some reason feminists have created this notion amongst women that ‘Everyone deserves a ribbon’. And its destroying our society!

        971. Not as hard as you have been rejected by men in the past. Please, feel free to spill your hate of men disguised in humor .if you can feel better.

        975. I read it just fine dumbass. He doesn’t need your pity, he’s great, I’m great, you’re pathetic.

        978. Another dissenting voice silenced! Long live social justice! Long live the glorious revolution!

        979. Oh and you are racist too. Fine. The more you Write here, the more people can read how filthy character you are. Now wonder why men reject you all the time.

        984. LOL you don’t know him, you have no way of knowing that. He’s a real man, not intimated by successful women. Very proud of my success and self sufficiency.

        988. I got a Frenchmen that’s on my jock all the time. He’s a misogynist too so I made him my bitch then ditched him. He tries to come crawling back all the time and I say no. He’s pathetic like you.

        992. Apart great at hating, cussing and saying shit ? I don’t see. And everybody who read your posts don’t obviously too

        995. It’s not me alone. Everybody here ! Even you as you are realizing all the shit you said. Damn, you must feel bad, please feel free to spill more hate to feel better, help yourself , quickly

        998. Oh he was an Alpha male when I met him. And he didn’t need a creepy cult or “red pill” to get that way.

        999. False. Only Men who date disgusting people like you are pathetic. But you know that already.

        1003. False, i’m not a rapist. Stop confusing men and rapist, perhaps you’ll be more happy with men, i promise you. Just try, you’ll see !

        1004. Chicken and egg argument. A tired old feminist maxim…
          Sperm is animate (latin: animus- spirit: meaning alive). Ovum is not.
          Men are life bearers, women are life harbourers.
          Life begins with sperm, dopey.. For the biologically challenged this means LIFE begets from MAN.
          Stupid bitch!

        1007. What is this spouting of hateful garbage you refer to? Please provide evidence of you allegation.

        1008. Of course you care, deep inside. Perhaps if he has read more articles at rok, he would have raised you better. And be proud of you. But sadly, it is not the case.

        1010. My bad. A girl like you don’t date, just enjoyed to be pumped and dumped. Promise i won’t confuse the terms next time !

        1012. I know someone has no foundation from which to make a sensible plea when they just start calling someone “coward.” Do have any other names you’d like to throw at RoK’ers while you’re at it?
          Can’t face females in public, you accuse? On the contrary, we face women everyday. But in your fascist thinking men are not allowed to associate amongst their own sex in a place absent of females so that we can be left to discuss things that matter to men, rather than be harassed by women such as yourself who feel privileged to inject yourselves into every conversation and situation whether invited or not.

        1013. The “media” didnt dig into or told you even half the story, You really outta look into matters yourself. Spewing “rapist” left and right doesnt make sense AT ALL.

        1015. Seriously you dont have high IQ and still believe in how the media pictures us. I mean..investigate a bit before you go “scum rapist” left and right., mouth foaming.

        1016. 80% of the prison population was raised by single mothers.
          Yeah, you guys are doing a real fantastic job of raising your children…

        1017. Their conversation is about telling you that you are a rapist, because Disney told them so.

        1018. 80% of the prison population was raised by single mothers.
          Yeah, you lot are doing a real fantastic job of raising your children…

        1019. Ah come one. You came in here firing WAY below 2. grade level. Don’t make us out to to the uncivilized tribe all of a sudden, it’s not like you were all Einstein from the getgo.

        1021. Hi there I thought you had gone? How did you know I was the best f**k ive ever had?
          Womens intuition is wild..

        1024. This is where you’ve outed your own lie. It is measured not on a test of reasoning ability but on a timed I.Q. test which measures 8 different aptitudes as most I.Q. tests do.

        1025. You know every time I watch feminism such as a woman rock climbing or going along with men up Mt. Everest, I look at my wife and wonder why she can’t be that woman.
          Feminism makes a fool of every woman who can’t perform.

        1026. Once more outing yourself, nobody has ever scored that high, the highest any one has ever gotten on the test was 195/200 which puts him in the 97th percentile.

        1027. You don’t have to assault us. You’ll damsel and get the State to do most of your dirty work. You dox and publicly shame people, destroying their careers and lives. You’re dirty cowards. We’re on to you cunts.

        1028. Liar. You want us silenced, submissive, beaten and compliant. If you can’t have that, you want us dead. I’ve seen the endless death threats Roosh has received over this. You want war? You’ve got it.

        1029. Liar. A mayor in Canada denied the use of civic buildings and told private business to deny space to men seeking to gather for this meetup. That is an abridgement of the right to free assembly and associations.
          You’re a filthy liar and you and your ilk engage in underhanded, totalitarian tactics. We are on to you, fucker. This is just beginning and it was you who escalated it.

        1030. Liar. Threatening to send out mobs to violently engage private citizens seeking to exercise their rights to free assembly and association is a violation of said rights. You are a liar and you and your ilk engage in the tactics of the totalitarian. This is just beginning.

        1031. Men are better than women fundamentally as a creature, first and foremost. Also because logic is superior to emotion. And we don’t “hate” women. We DO hate the fact that nature gave a miserable, self absorbed, entitled creature something that we want, aka pussy. The main reason women have “power” is because the men in your lives gave it to you. Your boss, your husband, your boyfriend. Whatever. A woman’s word means nothing unless it has a man’s validation. Matter of fact, there is a certain breed of man who will validate (and parrot) ANYTHING a woman says, simply because he wants pussy.
          In this society, women are held accountable for NOTHING, because there are always female sheep (and aforementioned males) who will run to the aid of a woman, no matter what she did. Take domestic violence for example. Currently, women are so ingrained with, “Women are equal to men” propaganda, that they disregard the fact that a normal man can punch a woman through a wall if he wanted to. Fact of the matter is, WOMEN are the instigators in the majority of domestic violence cases. And they instigate because if a man dares to use his physicality, the odds are he’ll go to jail and she won’t.
          Look at it this way, if a new law was passed that stated, “If a man can prove his wife/girlfriend assaulted (slapped, kicked, spit at, punched) him first, he can punch her in the face as hard as he wants 3 times in retaliation, and he won’t go to jail or be charged with any crime”, do you really think women would be as quick behave irrationally towards men? Exactly.
          In my opinion, aside from your outrageous overvaluing of your vaginas, men resent women because you give us no credit for our immense RESTRAINT whenever we’re dealing with a typical woman. Case in point – its socially acceptable for a woman to call a guy an asshole, a dick, a faggot, etc, but it’s NOT socially acceptable for that same man to call that woman a cunt? Is that a double standard, (of which women freely take part in), or just hypocrisy (again, which women check off their “To do” list everyday)? Weird innit?

        1035. Goats, cows, dogs, sheep all give birth, they just do it, they don’t go on and on and on and on and on about this one time they carried a baby.
          Who went to work at a stupid meaningless job for 20 years to pay for you to raise that sprog?
          9 months carry vs 18 years of back breaking, soul crushing labor in the machine.
          Yeah you women are really hard done by.
          The days of lies are almost over

        1037. When I read writings like this from people like you I am more determined than ever to back the Male Rights movement and oppose hateful feminists, meetings or not. You speak from a position of sheer anti male ignorance, but do not even realize it.

        1038. If women are so fantastic at inventing things then how come did it take a man in India to invent a cheap pad for women to wear? A man who had his wife AND his mother walk out of his life during the process.
          http://www.fastcoexist.com/1679008/an-indian-inventor-disrupts-the-period-industry
          The answer is that women do not want to bear the social and economic costs involved in trying to invent these kinds of products. They’d rather put up with menstrual rags.

        1039. There is no wage gap. There is however an hours gap. Women work about 77 hours for every 100 a man puts in.

        1041. Yeah he did. I believe he was right. People who spend a lot of time boasting about how intelligent they supposedly are, rarely have much to back up that intelligence. As opposed to people who actually just shut their mouth about it and let their work speak instead of them.

        1042. Nobody stopped you from doing anything, coward. If the Klan can get it together, I think you can as well. Sorry your secret little meeting got out – but we do that in American society for very good reasons. And lying? Your entire manifesto is sitting right here on this site for anyone to read.

        1043. That’s pretty much the long and the short of it. Thank you, fellow functioning adult.

        1044. Bullshit, those are threats. If they are credible, you call the police. That’s how groups like Westboro are able to still hold their little hate rallies. You guys just ran like cowards.

        1045. I’m not a bartender dummy. I was trying to make a point that clearly went over your small head. And if you had even an ounce of intelligence you’d know that college degrees having nothing to do with intelligence

        1046. So sad that you’re literally dumb enough to believe college has anything to do with intelligence. Yes, us over privileged men who’ve died by the millions protecting our countries and working labor jobs that no woman wants or can handle.

        1047. I have worked in several different countries and fields and not ONCE seen evidence of uneven pay between my female colleagues, or discrimination. Neither has my wife. I know it happens, but people like yourself suggest it’s commonplace, which it isn’t.

        1048. Dude you are way more stupid than her. Hysterical, defensive childish retardation in droves.

        1049. Standing up for girls isn’t going to get you laid buddy. Go back to your frat house with palmala and her 5 friends. “Dude”

        1050. And any moron can get in the police force. Not saying all police are stupid, but it is the route that many academic underachievers take

        1051. “I’m only talking about your micro dicks, of which I have zero sexual interest.” I doubt that. As for the “micro thing”, you need to grow up baby girl.

        1052. Showing your stupidity again. Some of the worlds greatest minds were academic underachievers. You can’t learn intelligence from a college degree dumb ass

        1053. “I’m not saying all police officers are stupid” a duh a duh a duh. You’re to dumb to even come up with a creative insult

        1054. “We want you to grow up and open your eyes to the world outside the shallow, loveless,anti-human horizons you are currently limiting yourself to by buying into garbage like ” the post modern society! exactly, word for word!

        1055. No-one has lied to the masses about your beliefs. Off you run now, with your tails between your legs, you pathetic lowlife scumbags.

        1058. Women can be wherever the fuck they want. Who the fuck are you stop them? Women make just as good engineers as men. They were just denied access to these spheres in the past. And YOU are crying and whinging because you no longer get to be dominant society. You clearly have mummy issues. I suggest you run along now and go and have a good cry, you pathetic excuse for a human. Go on, fuck off. No one likes you.

        1060. Technology in the past was largely invented only by men. But this is because men were not allowing women to participate in the fields of science and technology. Now they are allowed to and you feel all hurt and bruised because you no longer have power over others. I suggest you crawl back under your filthy hole you chauvinist pig. No-one likes a bigot. Now fuck off.

        1061. Unlimited freedom? Really? You mean they’ve had a little more freedom than they did before. And even a little bit is too much for you. In the future, women will invent just as many things as men, and YOU won’t like that. I have no problem with it at all. But you’ll hate it. For a start, because it’ll prove you wrong about your bullshit theory of male superiority. I want to live in a world where men and women are friends and no-one tries to dominate others. What are you so scared of, you massive wuss? Crybaby scardy-cat.

        1063. Oh so you’re suddenly anti-war are you? Don’t try that one. If it wasn’t for right wing idiots like you, we wouldn’t have all these wars. I’d say we all need to get rid of our armies and stop killing each other.

        1065. ***Update: I looked at your Disqus profile. Apparently you are also a firefighter. Not dealing with sexual assaults or domestic violence on an everyday basis, no indepth training of how to respond to and understand these issues. ***
          So, you work in law enforcement in the Sexual Assault Response Team?
          You have gone through intensive training regarding how to understand and adequately respond to rape disclosures?
          About how men and women, when they disclose that they have been assaulted, often don’t present as we expect them to? Even when later, the DNA evidence shows that they have been telling the truth….?
          Google ‘An Unbelievable Story of Rape’, and discover how attitudes like yours can destroy a rape victim’s life. This is not about gender, it is about whether a victim who is treated with suspicion and disbelief can slip through the cracks… if law enforcement aren’t properly trained.

        1067. Why would we want to have a matriarchal society? What we should have is an EQUAL society.
          Who the hell are you to tell women they want STUFF? And I’m sorry but if they don’t need you to protect and provide for them then what gives you the right to demand that? Can’t you just get on with your life?

        1068. No, you’ve got it completely the wrong way round. They just want to be equal, and YOU don’t want them to be. If you let people be equal then there’s no problem. But you feel threatened by the thought of not being able to dominate others. And that’s what makes you treat it as a competition.
          A woman’s life is her own, and you have no business ordering her around. Why do you find that thought so threatening? Just let people get on with their lives. They don’t need you to control them and coerce them.

        1071. Which is exactly why women and men are equal and should be treated equally within society.

        1072. Roosh doesn’t even believe women should have the vote. He is despicable and disgusting, and you are a low-life maggot scumbag for following him.
          Seriously Tom, you ought to think about crawling back under that filthy stinking hole of yours. Your opinions are shit and totally unacceptable.

        1073. What exactly is your point? At what point did I say anything about real rape? Which is a horrible thing and anyone who does it should have their balls chopped off with a spoon. If a girl has a few drinks, goes home with a guy and has sex with him, the next morning she regrets it and calls rape?? That is not rape!! That is what’s going on in college campuses all over the country.

        1074. Repeat all you want. How do you know someone else didn’t have that username, deleted their account then I took the name?
          I repeat…you’re an idiot.

        1075. I agree 100%. Women have the right to TRY to be wherever they want. Without dropping the standards.

        1076. Women were never denied anything, they were doing exactly what nature intended. Having babies and caring for their offspring. While men were doing their intended role, protecting the home and putting food on the table.

        1077. Mate. You said you work in Law Enforcement. You used this to validate the statement that ‘these things go on everyday…There’s hundreds of cases everyday.’ Acting like you know about fake rape cases.
          As you would know, as an army man, the Stolen Valour act has now been widened to make it a crime to pass oneself off as a war hero. I think that should go the same for people who pass themselves off as cops when they are not. It’s disgusting.

        1079. I always find it interesting watching these little micro… I hesitate to call them debates, more like the dissident party acts akin to a child throwing a tantrum but with the vocabulary of a sailor and the brother-in-arms calmly and eloquently explains why they’re wrong. Why so angry? Oh – its because you’re entire world-view is built on a crumbling foundation of sand. You’re scared, confused and looking to lash out with as much vitriol as you can summon from your brain-washed minds. Its ok. We’ll be here when you come to your senses, and if you never do.. well, one more drop in the ocean of the million mindless wailing voices against us – no matter.

        1081. There are a couple of logical fallacies in your argument. About the dare, you are declaring something and because I can’t prove you wrong with an example, you state that your claim is therefore a valid one, and that is not true. I just don’t see anything that would infer that Black people are less smart than White people. So I can’t really give an example, I acknowledge there are things that could make it look as you say, but there are many other factors involved there, and it is very difficult to dissect the problem and see what causes what. The example you gave on criminality is wrongly constructed, you say that there are more Black criminals, and that there is a relation between criminality and lower intelligence levels, and so “this tells us that blacks as a group have more people with low intelligence”. Which is the equal of saying, “we know it snows in the winter, and we have statistics that show that people tend to stay more in their homes in the winter, so this tells us that it snows because people go out less, or they go out less because it snows”, in which logic maybe they are black because they are less intelligent. So your example on criminality is based on a false cause fallacy. There are more Blacks than Whites incarcerated, and a certain sort of criminality and low intelligence are related (not all criminality because there are also thieves like politicians etc.) but stating those two things as facts is one thing, and assuming cause is another thing. There are many, many, many factors that need to be taken in consideration in that equation. And yes, the fact that Black people were uneducated slaves not long ago, and that they are subjects of discrimination (I am not Black, and even I see this), may have to do with poverty levels, low expectations, etc. etc., which definitely plays a factor maybe, and mostly, bigger than intelligence does.

        1082. Because, Ttiger, it took me 20 seconds to find it on YOUR disqus profile. I didn’t google it. It is in your feed. On the ROK article ‘Another Female Firefighter is Allowed to Graduate After Failing Physical Exams’, you wrote:
          ‘I joined the Marines in 96, was no different then. A bunch of chicks running around thinking they were Marines when they didn’t have to do half the shit we did in boot camp… And now I’m a Firefighter, not FDNY but a small city in the North. We had a female, she lasted 10 years… She was literally so common sence dumb she thought she could take a guy in a street fight because she took karate. Fucking idiot.’

        1083. Man you need to get a life. Once again, how do you know more then one person isn’t using my username.
          Don’t worry mate, someday you’ll figure out how to get laid. I promise you it isn’t going to happen by being a white knight

        1085. “Men are better than women fundamentally as a creature, first and foremost”. That is an opinion. And, as with assholes, everyone has an opinion. So unless you can claim something true by the means of demonstration, you are just as a sheep as the “SJW sheep” ROK points at in the media and society. Meaning, you’re going against you own beliefs and ROK’s. So, please share some facts, because the world won’t function based on your opinion. “Also because logic is superior to emotion”. Is also something you’re claiming out of thin air. Superior how? Based on what? According to whom? I am glad you say you don’t “hate” women. And that is why I am trying to understand what you as ROK members truly believe in, because I care to understand before judge. You said “We DO hate the fact that nature gave a miserable, self absorbed, entitled creature something that we want, aka pussy.” So, women to you are creatures with that characteristic? Would this also include your mother, sister/s, niece/s, or just the “other” women you do not know personally?
          “The main reason women have “power” is because the men in your lives gave it to you. (…) A woman’s word means nothing unless it has a man’s validation.” So you agree this happens in society? All feminists do too. Congrats, you’re half a feminist just by acknowledging this problem that sexists claim is non-existing.
          “In this society, women are held accountable for NOTHING, because there are always female sheep (and aforementioned males) who will run to the aid of a woman, no matter what she did.” Not true. Are there women incarcerated? Yes. Are there women unemployed? Yes. Are there wom…? Wait, I already gave two examples, meaning the “NOTHING” you claim in CAPS is already invalidated, meaning you’re not speaking from reason, meaning you’re speaking from emotion… meaning, wait? That emotion prevails in you instead of reason? So… that would make you… a woman, in your sense of the word, or… just inferior. So, you are trapping yourself. Please use your reason, and argument using reason, because your claims are those of someone exasperated, and exasperation is not a trait of alpha-nothing. Intelligent people don’t get emotion get into their arguments to the point of saying nonsense and falling into their own traps.
          “And they instigate because if a man dares to use his physicality, the odds are he’ll go to jail and she won’t.” I agree with half of this statement (something is something!). Many women are as violent as men, just physically weaker, and yes, they have trouble with boundaries in that regard because socially they get more away with it. BUT if men file a Police complaint, she will face consequences. The problem is that men view themselves as “queers” if they go around crying they were victims of domestic violence, and truth is men need to get over that and file a police complaint as soon as they are assaulted. So, women would of course have less incentives to be physically aggressive yes, the same way men are less physically aggressive because they think of the consequences. So, men are part of the problem here, because they judge among themselves as less of a man if someone complains against marital violence. So, get over it and have justice be made for both sides (not by hitting the other harder, but by having the same legal force fall to both).
          I think we should all strive so that it is not possible for women to call men “faggot”, etc., without serious social consequences and shame, and the same way around, so that it is not possible men to call women “cunt” neither.
          I mean, two wrongs don’t make a right Tames Joney. So, if you feel disrespected, you need to fight to have the world be a more fair of a place, but not fight for the right to be able to be disrespectful as well, because that is just wrong, because two wrongs don’t make a right, and disrespects invites nothing more than disrespect or oppression, and the truth is, at the end of the day, men and women need to make babies together, and raise them, and keep this world running, and do together some of the other great things in life, like falling in love, being grandson-grandmother, granddaughter/granddad, etc., etc., don’t you agree?

        1089. And you being totally rude and disrespectful is somehow useful and tolerable? What does that say about YOU? You are also misrepresenting your beliefs (which are mine BTW, so you cannot even attack me for being a ROK member). I am calling out on you because you cannot stop hate with hate. So stop making us look like assholes and feeding their hate.

        1090. You’re wrong. Women don’t want stuff. Are you somewhere in America? And maybe somewhere in the South? Get out of your bubble and meet WOMEN, not female kids, and then speak.
          “Your priorities lead to extinction” is something you are inferring out of nowhere so please stop it with the fallacies or either it’s impossible to reason (and isn’t that what “alpha-males” are supposed to be distinctively good at?).

        1091. I was debating DV statistics with some MRA dude not so long ago. He had created a novel bit of fiction to account for the hard n fast statistical evidence that men too often kill their female partners in DV situations and women don’t do the opposite. He stated that women secretly poison their men; they also secretly cut their break lines, and cause other accidents on a regular basis.
          These events have remained undetected in large numbers even by our finest police officers.
          His bit of fiction was so fantastic, so hilarious, because it actually illustrated women as these criminal masterminds, walking amongst us in large numbers, undetected. The rest of his schtick was all about how stupid and weak women are… yet here he was, describing them as mini-Moriartys in their own homes. Brilliant.

        1092. I was debating DV statistics with some MRA dude not so long ago. He had created a novel bit of fiction to account for the hard n fast statistical evidence that men too often kill their female partners in DV situations and women don’t do the opposite. He stated that women secretly poison their men; they also secretly cut their break lines, and cause other accidents on a regular basis.
          These events have remained undetected in large numbers even by our finest (male) police officers, scientists and coroners.
          His bit of fiction was so fantastic, so hilarious, because it actually illustrated women as these criminal masterminds, walking amongst us in large numbers, undetected. The rest of his schtick was all about how stupid and weak women are… yet here he was, describing them as mini-Moriartys in their own homes. Brilliant.

        1093. Life is not a competition, no. But there are inequalities and many women or feminists need them solved. For example, (smart and emotionally healthy) women do not wish to be valued for their youth and beauty, and they have the right to try to change that. What kind of right do you attribute to yourself to be able to tell someone how much they are worth? To tell someone she’s not worth much as she’s not physically attractive to you anymore or because she is a certain age? Seriously, what’s your right? In my view smart men don’t try to wrongfully take this right. So, I don’t go around speaking about MEN as a group, because there are different kinds of them. And it surprises me how in ROK you speak of women as an uniform mass of people. You complain media misrepresented you. Well, media also misrepresents women, and you do too. So, no one is doing things right here, really.

        1095. I agree with the first part of your comment (not with the last part that is filled with more hatred, that thing about a fake rape culture, etc), but the first things you said.
          What I don’t understand is why you deal with all that satire? Isn’t it fundamentally destructive even for your own agenda? It makes you look like crazy people in the eyes of the world – the same world you are trying to change and you want respect from. Instead you could just claim you feel there is X thing wrong with feminism, etc, etc., and give your arguments, and try to make people think like you, or maybe change your mind along the way and find some peaceful mid-point. But instead you (ROK) antagonize everyone and get nowhere. Unless you really think you will, which is naive. So I don’t get it. What is it with the satire that is more valuable to you that simply stating the truth of what you believe?

        1096. Hi, I just posted this to Tiger, another user, and now I read this and I have the same question for you, and that is that giving what you just said (and that is indeed more respectful than what Roosh and the media made of you): What I don’t understand is why you deal with all that satire. Isn’t it fundamentally destructive even for your own agenda? It makes you look like crazy people in the eyes of the world (talking about raping women in private propriety and that kind of stuff that is only funny to people in ROK appartenly) – the same world you are trying to change and you want respect from. Instead you could just claim you feel there is “X thing” wrong with feminism, or media, etc, etc., and give your arguments, and try to make people think like you, or maybe change your mind along the way and find some peaceful mid-point. But instead you (ROK) antagonize everyone and get nowhere. Unless you really think you will, which is naive. So I don’t get it. What is it with the satire that is more valuable to you that simply stating the truth of what you believe? If I shared your beliefs, I would be ashamed and angered as to how Roosh V represented me in the media. And I would feel he is in for the shock value and the clicks, and the money in his pocket, and that his satire joke is on everyone, including me.
          What are you feelings/thoughts on that is what makes me super curious.

        1098. Well, that is the same thing you are mad about. You feel feminists are talking by themselves, plotting against you, not engaging in reason and discussion. Isn’t it the same thing at the end of the day? Some people talking about some other people making assumptions without even giving them a chance to share their point of view and defend themselves from misrepresentation?

        1099. Well there was that one time we were considered property… Couldn’t own property… Or vote… And there’s also the sex trade… But yes go on about ours “privilege” oh downtrodden white man… Haha..

        1102. This argument is very stupid. Using that logic we could say:
          “80% of the prison population was raised by single mothers.
          Yeah, you men are doing a real fantastic job at providing for your families”

        1104. You’re welcome 😉
          When you get the chance, could you please answer about the satire thing, because it is the most intriguing thing. Unless you don’t really care about getting anything done in the real world and you’re just happy chatting among yourselves in forums.

        1107. So, when exactly were women property?
          Also, only wealthy men could vote at one time, but men were finally given the vote as a whole for fighting with their lives in war, as a way of saying thanks. Women, on the other hand, got the vote afterwards merely through complaining.
          As for the sex trade, you’ve got me.
          But yes, being a white man automatically means you’re ‘privileged’-what are you, a white woman?

        1108. Stevie Wonder has a great track on Songs In The Key Of Life called “Black Man”. In it he lists some of the achievements made by African-Americans. Might I suggest some alternate lyrics based on your post?
          “That Kevlar you wore,
          Was invented by a whore,
          Yes, a woman.
          That PC program
          Wasn’t first made by a man,
          No, a woman.
          The heating in your hut,
          Was invented by a slut,
          Yes, a woman.”

        1109. Well, women can be given credit for Kevlar for certain, but people aren’t certain how much Lovelace actually contributed to programming; it may have mainly been Babbage’s work and she was simply given credit for it.
          As for heating, we’ve had that for a LONG time; if you mean modern heating (fossil fuels burning to produce heat in homes), it doesn’t take a genius to figure out that burning something produces heat.

        1110. Like many inventions, Kevlar was probably unintentional. She probably intended to create a bigger bra with stronger support.

        1111. And you are a waste of the sperm it took to create you. Without it your Mother’s eggs would amount to nothing more substantive than genetic window dressing.
          Get lost and stop trolling this site. Your banality is tiresome.

        1112. The experiment has actually been done. There was a reality show where men were put on one island and women on the other. It quickly became apparent that it didn’t work.
          The men did what we have always done, build shelter, tables, tools and gather food. The women… sat around on the beach all day.
          So one man was moved to the female island and one woman was moved to the male island. The guy who came to the female island was initially thrilled about it. Then he saw what their conditions were like. “Where is your house?” “We don’t have one”. “Where is your food?” “We ate it.” And on and on. He ended up doing all the work in their camp while they kept sitting around on the beach.
          The woman who came to the male island was amazed. They had all these things, a house, tables, chairs, plenty of food etc.
          You can find it on youtube if you want. Google provides.

        1114. Uhhh, this is not the real world dummy. It’s a website where men come to voice their opinions on world affairs, dating, exercise etc…sorry you weren’t invited pumpkin. 😉

        1115. Spoken like a true misandrist. So what’s your purpose for trolling this site? To express your “love” for Men with a difference of opinion?

        1116. And for whom are the men buying the majority of the stuff? I know the women are only buying for themselves.

        1117. Sounds interesting and fun reality TV to watch.
          I get it. But also those shows are scripted for conflict, so it is hard to know which things aren’t manipulated or exaggerated. But despite that, those men and women I imagine were Americans, or from a specific niche, meaning they are not really representative of their gender in humanity. Also, they were selected in a casting process for the show to have “colorful” people that will create outrageous situations for them to be entertaining to watch. They wouldn’t pick a normal reasoning person, normally it’s people that are attention hungry, that are fame looking and this not afraid of conflict per conflict, competitive in nasty ways, uneducated, from a poor background (I don’t mean poor in money, I mean poor in values), etc., and then they get a couple of nicer ones so they get crazy and people sympathize as well. So, it is not an experiment, which requires scientific rigorousness, it’s reality TV for private profit.

        1118. Real Housewives of Desert Island – talking about their feelings and gossiping and sniping against each other.

        1120. You are wrong.
          Research says women buy men’s clothes, while men don’t buy women clothes. And I know that to hold true in my own life and the people around me (but, who cares what I see or live, google and you’ll see that’s the way it is).
          Women buy things for the homes, for the kids, for the husbands, and for themselves. I believe the same holds truth for men.
          So, no disparity there.
          Both genders want things, and want more than things as well.

        1121. you could reply to her opposition, since she is making valid points, with something that holds ground, not resorting to a child and calling her stupid hahaa. this whole string of conversation is hysterical. how many women have turned you down to generalize all women in such a hateful way??

        1122. you could bring up the falsehood of her points, but thats right, they are actually valid so instead you get angry and resort to acting like a child and begin calling her stupid. hahaha this shit is hysterical. oh, and being in the medical field I can tell you there are no significant differences in the brains of men and women. the biggest difference is genitalia and the amount of certain hormones in the body.

        1123. I suppose I’d be offended by that if I actually had a problem getting laid. Why are you so upset pumpkin? Something I said with some truth in it. Run along pumpkin, the boys are talking about things you can’t understand

        1124. Don’t call me dummy, and don’t call me pumpkin. I am being respectful.
          If I am here is to see things for myself and understand what ROK is about instead of screaming “outrage” about you before knowing what you are about besides what media said. I want to know before I jump into a conclusion, and to think before I speak. So, I am no dummy, by any means, in any area of my life, regardless how nice it would feel for you if it were true. I am also probably not any smarter than you, so no need to feel intimidated nor get defensive. I am here out of respect for freedom of speech -meaning that if you are pro-rape neo-nazis then of course you can’t legally have meetups, but if you re not, then the media and world reaction got out of hand-.
          So, what you imply in the reply is that you are not really interested in taking this to the real world, but in venting and sharing thoughts on the web, and maybe get some pickup lines. Fair enough.

        1125. Hahahaha!! Because you work in the medical field your going to try to tell me men and women are the same? We were designed the same by nature? Oh I can’t wait to hear this 🙂 go on pumpkin, I’m ready to learn

        1126. Right, the Wright BROTHERS. Education is not the only thing we were banned from for centuries, for being considered inferior. Of course the brothers had better circumstances. And! not all those inventions were made by women who’d studied either.

        1127. Here is a list of successful matriarchal societies. These are actually only a few of them there are a lot more, but for purposes of my arguement here are 6. They are not industrial like our society, but that doesn’t make them any less successful: http://mentalfloss.com/article/31274/6-modern-societies-where-women-literally-rule
          I don’t care about having a matriarchal society, but it would be a funny turn of events. I just want things to be equal. Now, as for my brain and what I want. How are you so ignorant that you see centuries of oppression formed behavior as a successful standard to make a full generalization on women’s wants? Are you a woman? Can you even speak from the female perspective. And hypothetically, even if you were, could you say that you were able to speak for every woman in the world? You can’t generalize like that. I give literally not a single fuck about stuff, I want to protect and provide for my family, and I do. I react just as physically as you do to a threat in my home and I work hard every day to provide a steady income for the future of myself, my partner, and the kids we hope to have. Just because I’m a woman doesn’t make me any less effective at any of it. People have individualized wants and needs and strengths. Men and women are very equal in their physical and mental capabilities. Here is a video of an attractive and fit 110lb woman dead lifting a man: http://www.thewire.com/politics/2013/01/truth-about-little-women-carrying-big-wounded-men-combat/61495/
          In short, you’re absofuckingloutly wrong.

        1129. Obviously this is not a pro rape group, for the love of god. It’s a site where come come to voice their opinions about feminism, world affairs, dating, exercise, etc….
          Funny how the feminist liberal media tries to make that out as if we’re Isis. Bunch of fucking psychos…

        1131. And let me make this very clear, any man who hurts or rapes a woman should have their nuts cut right off in public.

        1133. The homeless problem in this country is pretty disgusting. Homeless demographics include a large chunk of either addicts or mentally ill (not all, but a large chunk). This country has little investment in helping those with such problems, and has gone out of their way to all but make being homeless illegal.
          This falls into the social justice category, just fyi.
          In my city, it’s illegal to feed a homeless person. You can’t so much as feed a homeless person – so how is a community going to step up and make a dynamic change? That does start with voting, but it has to continue to be a priority with our government officials, once elected.

        1134. You would have to explain how it’s a logical fallacy though? We know that low intelligence cause crime and disorder more than anything else, we also know that blacks are overrepresented among criminals. There is more causation there than in your Snow example.
          Anyhow, I think you missed my point a bit, I simply meant that in all situations such like this, intelligence testing, and brain comparisons etc, everything finds whites having a higher average intelligence.
          “And yes, the fact that Black people were uneducated slaves not long ago,
          and that they are subjects of discrimination (I am not Black, and even I
          see this), may have to do with poverty levels, low expectations, etc.
          etc., which definitely plays a factor maybe, and mostly, bigger than
          intelligence does.”
          This doesn’t explain why Black countries that do the worst are those that have never been colonized or have been free the longest, Haiti revolted and won “freedom” in the early 19th century, Liberia was never colonized, Ethiopia wasn’t colonized until the 1930s, and that didn’t last long and so on.
          That Blacks were slaves doesn’t mean people tried to educate them, people have this image of slavery from Hollywood that is not true. Let’s take after slavery ended, abolitionists in great numbers started trying to educate blacks but didn’t like their lack of success and gave up after a decade or so, since then there was been a bunch of programs trying to uplift black children, in many places in the US today they spend much more on black child than a white one, and everyone is clamoring for diversity, blacks are hardly discriminated anywhere.
          If anyone is discriminated it’s in black-dominated cities were we can see public works being dominated by blacks above their numbers due to corruption and in-group mentality.
          “About the dare, you are declaring something and because I can’t prove
          you wrong with an example, you state that your claim is therefore a
          valid one, and that is not true”
          Well, at least you are admitting that you can’t come up with anything. But once again, I mean read your sentence, it must mean something, are you really willing to give up your entire race and future with mass immigration and then just hoping for the best?

        1135. Who wears pads? The diva cup was invented and patented in the 30’s by a woman. Women don’t want to wear the equivalent of a diaper for 3-5 days out of the month. This is why most women use tampons or cups.
          I mean, really?

        1136. The page speaks for itself.
          The actions speak for themselves.
          Spade = spade.
          Protest all you want, but your words are irrelevant.

        1137. “Try to increase yourd*ck size by holding your breath.”
          It worked for Sinatra. Did wonders for his breathing technique too.

        1138. Careful, you’re getting your feminist wires crossed, by calling me gay you’re promoting homophobia. You need to re read your feminist handbook.

        1140. No, the point you were making was not only baseless, but irrelevant.
          Even making a mock comparison of wage gap inequality by using a profession that relies on tipping – stupid.

        1141. You are not addressing the equity side of it. We get rid of some funding for programs that benefit women and redirect them towards men to achieve homeless death parity.

        1144. If people really want to talk about what is stifling the growth of this country – this is where it should start. It’s not feminists. It’s not women taking the jobs or not wanting to have families, or whatever else people on this board or articles on this site state.
          This is one part of the “equality” movement I really disagree with, for so many reasons. First, not everyone belongs in a 4 year institution, and I wish that could be discussed without people taking it as a blanket insult, because it’s not.
          But, that’s kind of a different discussion. I feel it’s more worthy of a discussion than bashing feminists, though.

        1145. This world has evolved due to stolen ideas. It’s not a higher crime for a woman to steal from a man than it is for a man to steal from a man.

        1146. AAAAnd you still don’t get it. More proof the female mind is not capable of understanding certain things. I guarantee any guy in here gets it. The point still goes right over your head

        1147. No, it hasn’t occurred to me that I was the problem, as it has not occurred at every single job I’ve ever had. Just the first few jobs over a decade ago. I even stated that there have not been issues with unequal pay, for me personally, in recent years.
          If I were fired at any of those jobs, perhaps I would think I was the problem. The first job, where I was passed up for a raise/promotion, I was given the reason.
          The second job, the guy essentially bragged about making more (retail store, majority women employees).
          The third job? First professional job. And, if I were the problem, I probably wouldn’t have been tasked with hiring my replacement when I put in my notice.
          You’re not even reading my previous comments. You’re stopping at the issue, and seeing that I am a woman. The first and second job, both were underperformers. One was fired because of it.
          And the CEO remarks? Both women and men have those dreams, but it is statistically impossible for both genders. It does not mean we cannot have the same dream. Good Lord, just re-read what you posted.

        1148. Here’s the point dingbat. There’s certain professions that women will always dominate and make more money then men. There’s certain professions that men will always dominate and make more money then women. It has nothing to do with equality and fairness dingbat. The world isn’t fair, even for you, you special snowflake

        1149. The equality side of it? Jesus, if we got rid of half the unneccessary bureaucracy in this country, we could fund both equally and still have a surplus. There is a lot of wasteful spending in this country, but you go straight toward cutting programs that benefit women. Why is that the case?
          I addressed the core problem pretty well – if the politicians aren’t interested in the issue, then it won’t be addressed.

        1150. First off my name isnt pumpkin. second, if you paid for the sex, doesnt count. third, if you didn’t pay for it well then the women who actually slept with you are prob the same ones you rant and rave about being “out of control.” you want to pretend like you know everything bc you have a penis and worse bc someone gave u a badge making your ego inflate to massive size go for it. im gonna take a wild guess and assume you drive a very large pick up truck haha, but like i said u go for it bc you’re right. i dont understand how someone can be so hateful and spew such garbage. maybe your mama beat on you or never loved you as a child bc there is definitely some psychological reason to your hate. so you’re right, i don’t understand and i don’t care to. I am happy and feel blessed i don’t personally know any men like yourself and i grew up surrounded by brothers and guy friends, but at least my mother and theirs loved them and raised them to respect women. i pray to a higher power you never have children, esp a little girl.

        1151. I go straight towards programs that benefit women because I believe in equity, you do not. Sometimes life is a zero sum game and if there is not a balance then that is not parity. What is so threatening about closing the homeless gap?

        1152. It’s mind blowing that people actually support this! When you need a woman and they turn their back on you it will bring joy to many people. Losers.

        1153. No, it’s very clear what you are saying, and it’s irrelevant. You’re implying that women complain about a wage gap because they are women, and then taking an industry where both genders start out with the same pay and supplement their pay with tips and tip-sharing. It is completely irrelevant.
          Nobody confused you with being a bartender, either. Your views on women are clear here, because you made that comment with the idea that women are inferior and wouldn’t get the simple, irrelevant statement you were making.

        1154. So you are pro-rape? Because that’s the only part that the media is taking seriously but everyone here says that’s not the message. Yet, that’s the only thing the media cares about because it’s a dangerous viewpoint.
          So yes, if you are pro-rape they are taking you seriously, as threats. If not, they are treating you like the jokes you are. Taking a “movement” like this seriously involves conceding that you are making a good point. That is not the case.

        1157. I am not protesting in the least. What I said is that after reading your ugly and hateful words on this thread I made a firm commitment to always support the Male Rights sites and the people who operate them. Its as simple as that. Your obviously hateful and misguided nature creates more and more of us who think the same way. You’re actually helping to build the anti feminist movement……but yeah, keep up the good work hater, you actually make a great mouthpiece, all be it an empty headed one, for our side,…but without even realizing it….lol.

        1158. A reality show.
          That’s not a legit experiment. It is done for purposes of entertainment value.

        1159. My first comment called the content disgusting. It called people who were afraid to face their opposition in public cowards.
          80% of my other comments here have been discussion without name-calling or hatred. The other comments are directed toward those who have called me names and threatened me.
          If you are choosing MY comments out of all the other comments to point out as ugly and hateful, then you’ve proven to me that you have not read anything, but are making an assumption.

        1160. Whatever. I choose Amazon because it keeps me out of the malls at Christmas. I hate shopping.

        1161. Notice that I said that the made took their time to slander us. Which would obviously mean that I consider all this pro rape bullshit a disgusting attempt at slander. And I believe that someone out there does percieve us as a threat, otherwise they wouldn’t be spending that much time and resources to slander us.

        1162. LOL, not all women are bitches… but a bitch must be a woman. It’s like all squares are rectangles but not all rectangles are squares. not that hard of concept really. Thanks for playing though.

        1163. The sex trade involves boys as well, boys all over the world are sold and made into slaves for armies, mines, plantations..

        1164. So sad you’re voluntarily unaware of the many things we’ve been banned from tthrough history, not just education. So sad you’re that guy who still thinks those men died <> their country, and can’t see they were just victims of your presidents and their power craving wars. You have those jobs cause you’re also cursed by sexism. And yes, we’re definitely not equal, but both genres deserve equal rights.

        1166. Why are gold and diamonds and so highly prized by women these days?? Men die mining for women!! So they can show off to other wives or gf’s how much stuff they have!!

        1167. You’re a typical female cowaard. You think you deserve respect simply because you were born a woman. Men actually have to go out in the world and earn respect. You on the other hand want respect for free.

        1168. Women and absolutely deserve to have equal rights. That is not the argument of this site. Women want equal rights only when it benefits them. Women have a safety net everywhere they turn in this country, the government, daddy, mommy, husband etc…if men fail they end up on the street or in prison. You think you deserve to be respected simply because you’re a woman. Men actually have to earn respect from others. So sad that you’re unaware of how lucky you are that men built this society

        1169. See how women like this want to steal male ideas and developments as if woman invented everything. Just because a woman worked on a small part of developing Kevlar, central air and what not, does not negate the other 100 hundred men that developed the rest of it. Look, look I’m a girl with a gun, I’m a really good soldier, wait how do you work this thing?
          Fucking women like this despise themselves for being born female.

        1170. If your standard for “successful society” is as low as “they exist”, then sure. Some of us aim a little higher. And bigger, as in nations.

        1172. Yes, inventing shit video games nobody wants to play. Look, look I invented a game so all the boys have to play, I don’t care if they don’t like it, play.

        1173. Don’t forget all husbands shipped off to war while those poor vote less women, got to live.

        1174. Ok pumpkin, let’s go with the porn industry then. Lets use that as an example instead. Woman porn stars make more money then male porn stars. Whaaaaa!!! I want equality!!! Whaaaaa!!!

        1176. No i deserve respect bc i am a human being and i respect others. men and women a like. and a coward? ahaha nice one coming from the guy arguing with every person who post shit on here from BEHIND A COMPUTER SCREEN. well maybe if u didnt advocate for men to control women, and decide what they do and where they go, they could actually go out into the world and earn their respect. I have earned it, in the real world. you generalize both sexes, but like i said you think you know everything bc you have a penis. congrats for you

        1177. you just contradicted yourself. take away women’s freedom, and then bitch that they dont go out into the world to earn their respect hahahaha and you called that other person stupid?

        1178. No, you deserve respect if you’re a human that goes out and does good things. You don’t deserve respect for no reason pumpkin. Run along now pumpkin, the boys are talking 😉

        1179. People who create great things don’t do it for the money, they do it because that was their passion. Do you think Einstein did it for the stacks and bitches? Do you? Oh, and don’t go there with the equal pay nonsense, it’s false, any regular here can school you.
          [edit] Just to clarify, I’m saying a fuck load of inventions were created in a garage, at night, after work. Where’s the equal pay there?

        1180. You don’t get it do you? You came here with a terrible attitude, a clear lack of knowledge about the site, and have not read any of the articles here including the ones above that I suggested.
          Yeah, your many nasty comments here are definitely having an impact. Just not in the manner you would wish for. Now, you can attempt to rationalize it all you want, but that changes nothing. Angry and almost hysterical feminist ranting has the effect of creating more male right supporters, not less…and that fundamental principle is at work today.

        1181. What good have you done besides promoting rape? You don’t know me, so don’t pretend like you do. I’m currently working on a project to help the homeless in my community and working with the local shelters. so im going out to the community and promoting good, yet i still don’t deserve respect? haha you know what Tiger, ur right. you alone deserve respect bc you’re a man with a penis and more testosterone than me. you go out into the world and spread hate (and that’s the “good” you do). you cant reason with someone who is illogical. so you’re right i should be grovelling at your feet for how great you are. hahahhaa i can’t even say that with a straight face, what a joke. you’re right, the BOYS are talking. the MEN in this world wouldn’t talk like this.

        1182. Riiiiiiiiight and the hapless women went to work in the industries like steel and coal mining to make sure America kept running… We weren’t allowed to see combat then, although there were 350,000 enlisted women both abroad and home , remember? Oh how soon we forget….. 😂 What else ya got?

        1183. people this illogical only get their “facts,” from unrealiable sources like reality shows. save you’re breath peeps, you cant reason with stupid.

        1184. If you expect men to respect you and be gentle to you (which I happen to think all men should do) because you’re a female then YOU pumpkin, are not equal to a man.

        1186. Again trying to steal some of the few things men still are amazing at and woman have no place even attempting, soldiers. The sheer arrogance that you can say woman lost as much as men through war is astounding. I would love to put you and your lot in the vanguard for a WW1 fight, with bullets flying and mustard gas burning you alive. The woman at home did what exactly? Right they had to leave the home and go to work, oh the carnage.

        1187. Oh here we go with the fake rape accusations again. You run out of arguments now all of a sudden everyone is a rapist. You’re a twit

        1188. no i think bc i am human, and made from the same shit as you, a male with some minor differences in DNA i should be treated w respect like all men and women deserve until they prove thye dont. I am not violent towards others, so i dont believe i deserve violence back. you go on and on, wen it takes two both male and female to keep the population going, i’d love to see all the women gone and what you “men” try and keep the world going hahahah. joke. you have no respect. you’re right im not equal to you, im better, and so are a million other men and women. women arent delicate flowers for the big strong men to protect. they are humans with minds, and thoughts, and rights that should be able to dress how they want, go where they want to, and do what they want.

        1189. And no I don’t think anyone should be worshipping the ground I walk on. I actually realize that you have to earn that kind of respect. Are ya done now pumpkin???

        1190. oh here we go with the generalizing and twisitng what other people say to make a point that isnt even relevant. never said everybody is a rapist, but go ahead and put words into my mouth. you’re a bigot anyways.

        1191. Put words into your mouth?? You said I think women should worship the ground I walk on?? When did I say that? You’re the one putting words into people mouths hun

        1192. haha you sure sound like you do. bc you deserve so mcuh respect for all that good you do. hahaha. yes i am done. you can’t reason with stupid. have a lovely day

        1193. Stupid men by crap like that to impress, shallow, insecure women!! Men buy it because YOU want it..Women are the most superficial, vainest, shallowest creatures Ive ever known.. how much money do women spend on makeup?? Spas? Jewelry?? Mani-Pedis?? Clothes? Shoes???

        1194. This is very true but I don’t remember hearing about 200 school BOYS being kidnapped by Muslim extremist at one time and never being heard from again also the boys aren’t just doing the physical labor, many of them are sold as sex slaves as well certain unammed Asian countries are the wealthy perverts choice locales for “lady-boys”.if we are talking about Africa… That country has been enslaving for literally thousands of years although(and this is an arguing point for you) men seem to be the highest reported victimized group sexually in both Americas penal and military institutions.)Not to mention the Catholic Church scandal.. I’m merely disputing obtuse claims such as “well the boys went to war” How about we recognize each sides contributions and struggles and start treating each other as equals, because I have a rebuttal for just about every man is so downtrodden argument that’s thrown my way..So…. What else ya got….

        1195. Youre 100% correct. we deserve to be treated as equals. You can dress however you want sweetie. Go do porn, go be a stripper, go be a doctor! Awesome! But what you don’t (or shouldn’t) get to do is be treated equal only when it benefits you. You fuck up, it’s on you. But that’s not how it works, you get knocked up by some scumbag with a neck tattoo who runs off you deserve to pay the consequences for that. Not taxpayers

        1196. Yeah, I don’t wear a lot of jewelry. I honestly don’t see the attraction diamonds, and gold is tacky.
          Most of my jewelry that I own I’ve bought myself. Not everyone is the same, but both men and women fall for the keeping up with the Joneses philosophy. It’s not just women.

        1198. Ive noticed men doing the same lately.. I admit. I have 10k in tools. but those tools enable me to fix anything.. I know a girl that has a 10k coat…makes me sick!

        1199. As I already stated, there is nothing threatening about closing the homeless gap.
          Which women’s programs do you feel exist to trump equality?

        1201. i completely agree with that. it shouldnt be used for benefit, it should be equal period. i agree with that as well. you make the choice of who you sleep and you dont use protection than that’s you’re own fault nobody elses. but generalizing all women like that is wrong, bc there r a lot of them who arent. and do take responsibility for their own actions. I dont think the taxpayers should be shelling out money to any sex for their own poor decisions.

        1202. Oh, the irony… You probably don’t know that the the spread spectrum RTX system that the Wi-Fi you are probably using is based on was invented by Hedy Lamarr.
          A woman.
          So she did something that your limited brain can’t even fathom.
          Feel better, now?

        1203. Unless you live the life of a monk, you’re guilty of the same. Cars, clothes, shoes, video games, useless gadgets. Yes, men and women want different things when they shop. Buying something utilitarian that you may use a couple of times doesn’t make you the better, more consciencious shopper.

        1204. Not once did I ever say all women are like that. Unfortunately, a good majority are. Instead of shaming us, why don’t you go and shame women that give women a bad name? Strippers, porn stars, women who run around in bars acting like sailors, etc…

        1205. And I’ve seen men purchase 100K+ sports cars. Both the coat and the car serve a purpose, but the extent of the luxury on both is absurd.
          It’s not just women that do this. Men can be just as vain.
          On the other hand – if both can afford it, then so be it.

        1206. My race is mixed but I am considered Caucasian although my grandfather was 100% Yaqui… The privileged white man comment was rude on my part… But here’s this for your when women were considered property question..

        1207. Wow I’m so impressed. Is that what your feminism websites say. Go away pumpkin, no one cares about the 15 things women may or may not have invented

        1211. “As a matter of fact most of the guys who post on here love women. Women do not belong in the military as they are a waste of taxpayers money. I witnessed it first hand, the majority of them join up…fuck a bunch of guys and get knocked up. You are not equal to a man sweetheart. You can’t physically do what the majority of men can do and men can’t give birth to babies. Every luxury you have today was built by men.” from your post earlier… funny i know a bunch of women in the military and they dont fit your description as the “majority”. so you wanna back peddle now go for it. its clear you hate women for the few who dont take responsibility for their own actions. Just like there are some men out there that dont take responsibility for theirs and instead blame women for dressing a certain way. haha ridiculous

        1213. The fact that I even have to bring up the homeless death gap shows your bias. Why don’t feminists being these issues up on their own. We could address entitlements and say that traditionally men have had to work themselves to death to support their families and women need to start doing the same.

        1214. Yes, that’s right. Set a good example, get rid of yours first, and no doubt your enemies will follow suit.

        1215. I don’t think it ever came up. Never heard anyone here say that women should be paid less.

        1217. There has been a specific topic here. Your pulling something off-topic into it and saying I am biased because I didn’t bring it up is ridiculous. I’m guessing that all the guys here that haven’t discussed the same issue are showing their bias as well.

        1218. it’s not the majority. but ok. if you’re getting into technicalities. go for it. i just wasted a good few hrs of my life arguing with someone who generalizes “the majority” of women into one hateful category. that just makes me an idiot for arguing and wasting my time. enjoy.

        1221. Most people here don’t use sophisticated arguments. The issue I was bringing up was equality of responsibility. If you don’t believe in traditional roles that’s fine but people still have to take responsibility for their actions. If a woman chooses to not have children and is penniless when she turns 60 then how long should she expect to be supported by taxpayers? I’m not advocating shoving people in the street but we spend all our money on previous generations.

        1222. Recognize both sides contributions, like women waiting to find out if their men are dead from war. Fuck sake, women hardly contribute shit to fighting wars, what they do for the most part these days is cheat on their husbands while they are at war. That is most women for you in a nut shell.

        1223. Yes, and after they spend all that money on shit to make them look better, they have the fucking gull to lie to men’s faces and say it’s for them. Fucking liars, women look good for other women, it’s how they judge each other – how pretty is she, how fat, how tall, what kind of shoes are those, how does she do her make up. Men don’t give a shit about your designer shoes or purse or how much make up you have on. We find women attractive regardless of these things for the most part. When ever a woman brings this up to me now, I lay right into her and call her on B.S they just laugh it off for the most part, and never bring it up again. Which is the result I was demanding.

        1224. A face book poll showed that the most common word used by women when talking on social media – shopping. That is women in a nut shell.

        1226. If we depended on women for invention we’d still be living in grass huts. Civilization is due to the insights and creativity of the top fraction of a percent of men; everybody else owes those men not just their lifestyles but their lives.
          Answering your specific claims:
          Ada Lovelace was not the first computer programmer, see the “controversy over extent of contributions” section in her Wikipedia article.
          Kevlar was created at DuPont and the company deserves a large share of the credit for the fortuitous discovery and all the credit for bringing it to market.
          Central heating in all its forms was invented by men. Heat in cars is an obvious engineering matter, not worthy of being called an invention. (Despite being obvious, the female solution wasn’t the obvious one, instead using the stupidly dangerous method of opening the cabin to the engine compartment.) Heating using natural gas was invented by the Chinese over 2000 years ago.
          If women had actually contributed more than a few footnotes to science, technology or the arts they would be constantly held up as examples. That the cited examples are so few and so mediocre shows that women really haven’t ever created even one one-hundredth of what men have.
          Women have made some contributions, but successful technological inventions have almost all been invented by men, the vast majority by straight, culturally or actually Christian, western European-descended men age 20 – 50 over the past 400 years, most of the rest by ancient Caucasoid or Chinese men. The reason women have not contributed more is not discrimination, but lack of extremely high intelligence – women have a smaller standard deviation of ability than men (10% smaller) and a slightly lower mean (1 – 3 IQ points for adults). There are about 5- 10x as many 150 IQ men as women. Intelligence is a measure of the difficulty of questions one can answer, so advances that require insight into the most difficult questions are made exclusively by the most intelligent people working on the problem.
          Having high intelligence is necessary but not sufficient. One must also focus on a problem, apply that intelligence, and overcome indifference and hostility. Women are far more conformist, scattered, and have little interest in or respect for objective truth and judgement, preferring instead to believe whatever makes them feel good. Women also lack creativity in general, as can be seen from musical history, with women of well-off families far more than men being tutored in playing musical instruments, having more leisure than men, yet producing no great composers and scarcely any even mediocre ones.
          All women are categorically, physically, mentally, and genetically inferior to the best men. They are pampered and coddled, treated far better than men, yet produce less than half what they consume, while men are constantly reviled, insulted, exploited and belittled, yet produce three times as much as they consume. Treating unequal people equally is unjust, treating inferiors better than superiors is evil, insulting your only real benefactors and demanding they be treated worse than you parasites is suicidally insane.

        1227. MissFrizzle, as a computer scientist I can tell you that this is not truth. Please bear in mind that the below is not intended to denigrate the advanced mathematical capability of Lovelace as she contributed, but she did translate work already done and tutored to her. Your error is not uncommon, just as a lot of people take “urban myths” as truth. And please, before you go “butthurt” all over me, I have a younger sister who became an orthopedic surgeon in the 80’s when the field was dominated by men.
          —————————————————————————
          Ada Lovelace met Charles Babbage in 1833, and became interested in a model he had constructed of a mechanical device to compute values of quadratic functions, the Difference Engine. She also studied his ideas on another machine, the Analytical Engine, which would use punched cards to “read” instructions and data for solving mathematical problems. Babbage also became Lovelace’s mentor, and helped Ada Lovelace begin mathematical studies with Augustus de Moyan in 1840 at the University of
          London.
          Babbage himself never wrote about his own inventions, but in 1842, an Italian engineer Manabrea (later Italy’s prime minister) described Babbage’s Analytical Engine in an article published in French.
          Lovelace was asked to translate this article into English for a British scientific journal. She added many notes of her own to the translation, since she was familiar with Babbage’s work. Her additions showed how Babbage’s Analytical Engine would work, and gave a set of instructions for using the Engine for calculating Bernoulli numbers. She published the translation and notes under the initials “A.A.L,” concealing her identity as did many women who published before women were more accepted as intellectual equals.
          Ada Lovelace unknowingly developed an addiction to prescribed drugs including laudanum, opium and morphine, and displayed classic mood swings and withdrawal symptoms. She took up gambling and lost most of her fortune. She was suspected of an affair with a gambling comrade. In 1852, Ada Lovelace died of uterine cancer. She was buried next to her famous father. (Lord Byron)
          More than a hundred years after her death, in 1953, Ada Lovelace’s notes on Babbage’s Analytical Engine were republished after having been forgotten. The engine was now recognized as a model for a computer, and Ada Lovelace’s notes as a description of a computer and software.

        1229. I work with women that cant walk right because of the stupid shoes they wear.. and then they say its “for us men” whatever!!
          I’m an IT guy and during the day I have to remote into users pc’s to fix things.. some of the shit women say about other women they work with is criminal!! Especially when its a new hire and shes cute, hasn’t had kids yet and she not fat!! They rip her apart in googlechat.. and its disgusting to think that I have to work with bitches like this!!

        1231. Ok we get it.. Im a big fan of Marie Curie by the way.. and Im very aware of the contributions women have made.. but womens contributions pale in comparison to mens.. we have done WAY more than women ever have.. and we do it every day usually without any thanks!

        1232. Agreed. The fundamentals those women display in the golf swing is textbook. Men, on the other hand, tend to have very differing and erratic motions even if they do tend to hit the ball farther.

        1236. I do….I read and went to college. The other guys name was George Antheil.. how convenient to leave him out!!

        1237. And your view of the world is so limited to think that women are inferior? That wasn’t a good college…

        1239. Feminists go on about how SOME men will sexually harass them at work and this is an example of toxic masculinity. However I feel they way women will gossip at work just about as damaging. I worked in an all female environment in Social Services and I fucking wanted to blow my head off towards the end when I thought about having to sit through another 8 hr shift while these harpies just tore each other apart. I hated it, and it was part of the reason I quit.

        1242. Actually, saying men are a fundamentally better creature than women is a fact. Men don’t have any inherent issues to slow us down from getting where we need to be in life. Not to mention that we’re generally smarter and stronger, but women already know that. If you feel like arbitrarily having a contrarian opinion, feel free to list the avenues of life where women are superior to men. Aside from being the fuckee, I mean.
          And did you really use the, “But what about the women in your family” shaming nonsense? That is basic level typical female thinking, so I’ll marginalize it as such. ALL women have inherent behaviors that this society panders to. Try harder.
          As for your concrete “proof” that supposedly invalidates my “women are held accountable for nothing” statement, do you REALLY want to compare the ratio of women to men currently incarcerated, knowing that the justice system benefits the female, more often than not? Get outta here. And that’s just women that did something extreme enough to go to jail. There are plenty of females out there who are the beneficiaries of the gender biased legal system and don’t serve jail time for the crimes they commit.
          I’ll just dismiss your attempts to psycho-analyze me and trying to set guidelines for how I type, because ultimately those are just 2 more levels of typical behavior, so you’re up to 3 now. Just making a note.
          As for the part where you agree with me on something (your validation is irrelevant) who do you think perpetrates the “men are weak if they go to the police” stigma? Shaming men into thinking in a way that benefits women (to the man’s detriment) is what current society is predicated on. If a woman says, “A man is a bitch if he goes to the police”, to a pussy-whipped man, do you not think he’ll frivolously agree, just to make her happy? Now apply that scenario to the legion of married (or not) emasculated “yes” men currently residing in America. Men with common sense KNOW to put a case on a woman first, because they realize that fighting a woman in court is an uphill battle.
          I’d love to hear your solution to the issue of perpetrators of domestic violence (the majority of which are women) vs the men who retaliate and subsequently go to jail, while the woman remains free. Because we both know that in CURRENT society, to
          “have justice be made for both sides (not by hitting the other harder, but by having the same legal force fall to both).”, is about as likely to happen as the, “you can punch a bitch if she assaults you first” scenario I came up with. Well, maybe not if Trump wins.
          To your social consequences for free speech, that will never happen. You can’t make people talk how you want them to, just to make yourself (not you in particular, just speaking in general) comfortable. Why do people think they’re arbitrarily entitled to not be “offended” anyway? You can’t legislate speech anymore than you can legislate racial “harmony”. Meaning, sure its frowned upon and in some cases you can get jailed for being racist, but that doesn’t mean racism doesn’t exist. I’m of the opinion that anybody can say anything they want, and anybody can respond in kind. That’s the only level playing field when it comes to conversation. It doesn’t make someone less of themselves if they use profanity. It just means they’re willing to speak honestly, without the frivolous self editing. If a woman is acting out of pocket (disrespectfully, abrasive, loud, etc), what’s wrong with going up to her and saying, “Sweety, you’re acting like a cunt right now, and everyone is embarrassed to be in the same room as you”? That line works wonders in bringing a woman from 60 to 0, and if she’s being honest with herself, she knows she was just told the truth and will not protest.
          To your last paragraph, WHO exactly determines what’s wrong and what’s right? Society? The government? Obama? lol. CONTEXT is everything. Which is why I feel that men shouldn’t bite their tongues whenever a woman is acting out. Women are in the ignominious position of being “progressive and empowered” to the point that they dismiss their own nature (ie to find a man they revere, and settle down. well for straight women, anyway). Problem is, there can’t be two “men” in the relationship (men who fuck each other notwithstanding). A man’s nature is to hunt and gather, to provide for the female he deems worthy. However, in this society, how many quality (moral, intelligent, loving, considerate etc) women are there that DESERVE to be provided for, compared to the legion of perpetually bitter, misandric, emasculating, freedom of speech opposing, entitled women that radical feminism has created?
          To quote the great Patrice O’Neal, “Women don’t wanna win, they want a WINNER”. Meaning females inherently don’t want to run a relationship. They want a man they admire, respect, and love, to run it. A quality woman will readily embrace a man doing what he’s supposed to do (lead a woman to happiness), but again, those are few and far between. What guy in his right mind would genuinely want a female who’s delusional enough to think she’s better than he is?

        1243. WTF?
          How dare anybody try to tell men what they should find attractive? How insane do you have to be to think that you could make a man think a fat fugg is actually attractive? You aren’t owed admiration, cupcake. You aren’t owed a partner. You aren’t owed anything, especially when you have done nothing to earn it. If you were a man you would have had this drummed into your head thoroughly by the time you hit puberty.
          It’s a man’s right to judge and to value and to prefer what he perceives as preferable because it is his mind, his body and his life. You can’t legislate what men want, and you’re crazy to think that’s even a possibility.

        1244. Do you even know the definition of nation? Nation: a large aggregate of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular country or territory. These are nations of people. Just because your understanding of encompasses the entirety of a country doesn’t make my point any less relevant. You argued that there has never ever been a successful matriarchy — that is wrong. The reason why we haven’t seen entire large and industrial countries is due, largely in part, by christian westernization of the modern world and consistent systematic oppression dating back centuries ago when we began to see wealth and status as the dictating player in the way we interacted. Since it was very hard to tell whose baby belonged to whom, men began guarding and limiting the behavior of women to ensure their line wouldn’t be passed on to a bastard. It’s all very primal and animalistic. Quite frankly, patriarchy is an outdated form of social thought considering we now have paternity tests and a higher standard of cognitive thought.

        1245. See? You went to a crappy college… I’m not a woman, but in the professional world I work in, I’d rather see computer code written by a woman. Far more stable and easier to read.

        1247. Try “The Bell Curve” by Herenstein and Murray. US Black IQ is 85, (16th percentile for Whites), confirmed by hundreds of studies over a century. In Africa it is much lower.
          The std. deviation for US Blacks is also much lower, about 12 points rather than 15, so there are very very few Blacks with high IQs – 130 IQ is 1 in 42 for whites, 1 in 11,000 for Blacks, though mulattoes are intermediate and a couple of sub-Saharan groups without much of a history in the US do better (Ibo, Tutsi, Ashanti aristos).
          For the real red pill, try “Erectus Among Us”. Whites and Blacks differ more genetically than chimps and bonobos or Whites and Neanderthals.

        1248. Maybe so, but I’m not the one that shows rudeness insulting other people.
          And, for your information, US colleges are *ALL* crappy, compared to European Universities.
          SO crappy that a US degree is not valid overseas, unless it’s a PhD, while any European graduated is very much welcome in the USA (My case, too).
          Got the concept? 🙂

        1250. You know… It’s very true that the first one that starts insulting people is the one that ran out of arguments… 😀
          But that’s logic.
          Are you by any chance a republican?

        1251. I agree that people should take responsibility for their actions. I don’t feel we should leave people to die because they’ve made mistakes, though.
          Do you have examples of all these women that choose not to have children and end up penniless when they turn 60? Where exactly did that come from?
          We have social security as a safety net for not planning for retirement. You pay into that.
          Most welfare recipients are young.
          I’m not getting your example.

        1252. Please kindly go back to where ever you came from!! And that includes the pus dripping cesspool of a vagina you were shat out of!

        1253. What is it? Does it burn when an immigrant can embarrass you? “Go back where you came from”… Is that all you can come out with?
          No wonder the USA is going down the drain…

        1254. Only the most backward, under developed and degenerate societies are matriarchal and serve to remind us why women should not be given power. These examples of backward matriarchal tribes show us that. On the other look at patriarchal societies (basically ever society on Earth) and look at their progress

        1255. please tell me how patriarchal societies are successful? You decided to take charge and what do we have: oppression, social injustice, rape culture, systematic violence, and economic debt. How are these societies reminding you why women should not have power? Please back up your statements in some way.

        1257. You dont believe that people should take responsibility for their actions. The previous generations of women did not reproduce at replacement level and voted themselves a level of entitlement that they felt like not paying for and demand several times more than they paid into it. Do you expect to live forever?

        1258. You know… You are starting to amuse me.
          Congratulations for finding my (publicly available) picture. Now I know you have an IQ of at least 75.
          Come on, try to come up with an insult that’s at least a bit creative, or you will look very childish.

        1259. Human kind started from living in grass huts to where we are now. The invention of the Internet, cars, reaching the moon, technology, education etc. all this is a testament to the success of the patriarchal model of leadership. Social injustice depends on how you interpret it. Rape culture doesnt really exist and is a feminist lie. As for violence i wouldnt say its systematic and debt they are issues but what i said is to see where humankind started from and to the developement we have reached now it is all due to the patriarchy. It is due to patriarchal inventions that you are able to post comments on the internet via your computer/mobile

        1260. Also men are physically much more stronger than women due to testosterone. You have to be a special really really deluded type of feminist to deny that

        1262. Nah… Not creative enough.
          Been “not very attractive” has always been an advantage.
          I can use my brain.
          Nice try, but you have to do better, to make me stop laughing.
          🙂

        1263. They only worked because the men were away at war otherwise they wouldve never been given these jobs since men are better at them. And they werent allowed in combat because they simply wouldve gotten their asses handed to them by the Germans

        1264. You got me wrong. And I am not a cupcake.
          What you think is attractive is not what men thought was attractive thirty years ago. So yes, red pill right here: your point of view is influenced and constructed by what you’ve seen and heard, by the media and what you have been taught to conceive as beautiful.

        1265. I’m having a hard time following your point. We were discussing homelessness – which we’re speaking of a majority of single males who are homeless, and why we do not take care of them better. Then suddenly single women in their 60s are draining all of the money. Do you have some statistics to back this up?
          I do believe that people should be held responsible for their actions, and it seems you’re asserting some beliefs onto me that I do not claim.

        1266. Simply put, men have more testosterone so they are much better suited to lead and women have more estrogen so they are much better suited to take care of the kids and cook. END OF STORY.

        1267. You are far too boring…Maybe I come up that way on my Ducati or my 74 Alfa GTv and we go for a drive??

        1268. Back up. Rape culture is a femminist lie? What the fuck does that even mean?? When I look at a group of college aged women and already statistically 1 in every 4 have been raped or sexually assaulted it makes it pretty clear rape culture exists. But yet you’re choosing to ignore this?

        1269. I’ll pass on the Ducati, but the Alfa (*IF* you can start her… It’s an Alfa, after all) would be cool.
          Is it the 2.0 or the 2.5?

        1272. Uh… I didn’t come over here. I was *CALLED* over here.
          There is a HUGE difference.

        1274. Most of us here in the US know it sucks.. colleges especially.. but when a foreigner(you) opens his big mouth.. and you did.. we might take offense.

        1275. We don’t take care of them because it’s not a political priority. It’s not a political priority because of women’s activism. If a woman wants to be independent then how many of her bad choices should be subsidized by others. People who don’t want to take responsibility for their own actions can be dangerous to others. I have friends who graduated from college and live at home well past normal life stages. It’s more of a political priority to pay for daycare or Medicare than to allow young people to save for mortgages.

        1276. Sorry, I stopped reading in the second paragraph. Too much nonsense here packed in some exasperated violent manner of communicating. It’s like reading a teenage tantrum. You are not an intelligent reasonable alpha-male as you would wish to be, your speech barely makes sense and is backed by nothing but your unfounded belief that you are somehow more special. Red pill: you are not. Keep whining in forums about getting the respect you don’t earn for yourself by being reasonable, respectful, civilized. I was trying to respectfully exchange ideas with you, but you reply like an entitled brat, and I am no kindergarten teacher.

        1278. Look, there are idiots everywhere. Men idiots. Women idiots. So, from my standpoint, women wanting diamonds are idiots, and men buying them are idiots too. Who the fuck cares about diamonds and gold? Idiots do. Who the fuck cares about marrying an idiot? Another idiot.

        1279. Scientifically the male and female brains are really different with the males having 10% bigger brains and much more active and bigger amygdalas the part which is responsible for IQ, modular thinking

        1280. That I can totally understand.
          However, you should show your contempt to whoever brought the country down this way.
          (Hint… Reagan and Bush)

        1282. You having a computer means that under the patriarchal model of society humankind made such progresses in technology that you have a computer to type your comments in. Without it you would not have been able to do that. Thank the patriarchy for this.

        1283. Well I dont vote.. never have because the popular vote doesnt elect the president.. whomever it is..

        1284. Well I know that you can’t say for certain, it’s merely your opinion, and a half assed one at that… Google some of the women of World War One and two and educate yourself. 🙂

        1285. Are you out of your mind? Who do you think kept America running during world warII… I see a lot of uneducated opinion in here and a sever lack of statistics and facts… Sad really.

        1289. That isn’t end of story as it is not the society we live in. We live in a society of free will and choice.
          Is every man working in the field he is best suited for, or is he working in the field he desires to work in?
          If you open up the discussion of people sticking to roles they are best fit for in society, then you are opening up a can of worms. You are pushing for the exclusion of free will, and the adoption of an almost Totalitarian rule.

        1290. Why is it that everytime you speak against them that you attack their masculinity and characterize them as being emasculated by living in their mums basement but then you go around mocking and attacking masculinity. What is that you want

        1291. That’s because this article is trying to prove “degrees of sexual assault”, what’s it’s saying is that someone coming up to me and grabbing my ass, while violating, isn’t punishable by jail time. But it still creates rape culture.

        1292. So am I supposed to thank patriarchy for Margret Hamilton, the woman who wrote the code that flew us to the moon?

        1293. We weren’t allowed in the military…… By men…. Women would have and did enlist but we were barred from seeing combat… See how that works? Should I explain it more?

        1294. It is exactly this free will that you speak of that men are more in STEM cells, scientific fields and politics and women are more in more nurturing sort of roles such as biology (doctors), teaching and homemaking. Feminists are the real totalitarians here, campaigning to ban words, enroaching and controlling freedom of speech through a politically correct agenda etc.

        1295. Yes. You should. However shes only one woman amongst millions of men with their contribution to science. Also it was a man that actually went to the moon.

        1296. Rape culture is a lie. Rape is a horrible crime. People who rape are sent to prison not glorified. A culture that actively promotes and encourages rape does not exist atleast in the west. Stop quoting false statistics. Regret after sex is not rape.

        1297. And now you can join freely as much as you want, and what do women do with this opportunity? Nothing, female enrollment is about 10% in the military even after lowering standards for female cadets, and giving women special incentives to join. Woman hate combat, that is what this proves, why? Because bravery and courage on the battlefield is a male attribute most of us are born with. Females do not have this attribute, they are incapable of saving men, period. If you don’t believe me just youtube woman saves man, and you will find ONE video of a woman putting her life on the line to save a man. She pulls him off some subway tracks just before the train was about to run him over. That’s it though, ONE, no more. What we do find on the other hand are countless videos of men saving woman and other men. Even dogs have hundreds of videos of them saving people, but women only ONE cupcake. Woman are shit at saving men and anyone else, you don’t have it in you as a GENDER.

        1298. Women have testosterone too, that’s why we get acne (caused mostly by testosterone and treated by adding more progesterone). It’s not testosterone that makes you look bigger and stronger, it’s the way your body breaks down sugar and protein and distributes lean muscle and fat throughout the body, which is in part due to the amount of testosterone released in the body. Women hold on to fat more than muscle so that we can carry a child making us doughy and softer unless we work out often. But women can lift just as much as a man given proper training. A woman can run just as fast if not fast than a man. I swim and run and beat the men in my practice groups day in and day out.

        1299. And with ppl like you why do cops have a bad image?
          I feel bad for the cops I know bc ppl like u make the rest of the cops look like bigots.
          Most cops r heros but the power draws in ppl like u who are just angry and crave power
          Pathetic

        1301. Your over inflated Hollywood idea of woman is astounding, don’t believe everything you see on TV. So what women went into factories and worked for a change during the war, thanks for doing a job. It was MEN who won the war not WOMEN in anyway shape or form. It is also extremely disrespectful to deny that. It shows you care nothing for men who die in combat while woman play at work.

        1302. I like how you’re literally liking all of your own comments. hahaha! She’s one of the few women making contributions because our dumb patriarchal society has for decades pressured women to pursue domestic lives rather than explore employment and education in STEM. Think of all the innovations patriarchy has inadvertently hindered. Thanks patriarchy! I will never know the world we could have had! 😀

        1303. Some feminists. The radicalized feminists may push this, but that is not inline with the spirit of feminism. I don’t think any group appreciates being judged by the low-hanging fruit.

        1304. Men have 20 times more testosterone than women. Womens testosterone levels are very negligible as compared to men. It makes men stronger have deeper voices and more body hair. A woman cannot acquire as much muscle or lift as much as a man even with training because a man can always put more bulk than her due to testosterone. The worlds fastest runners and records have always been men no women ever came close to their records. Moreover the strongest woman in the world got beaten by average men in a armwrestling challenge (its on youtube), US national womens team lost to U 17 boys soccer team 8-2 (google it)

        1305. I never said men didn’t have grater capabilities to put on muscle. But what you’re saying is that because men can put on more muscle, that they intrinsically deserve a higher social status with more power. That’s archaic.

        1306. Patriarchy never stopped them. Women just didnt want to go into STEM cells as can be seen that today women opt for gender studies courses rather than go in STEM cells. Men are more likely to go to STEM cells as they have more testosterone and bigger amygdala i.e more modular thinking and higher average IQs. Its just science.

        1307. And with your logic everyone in the NFL looks bad because one person killed a bunch of dogs. Go away idiot

        1309. I’m not talking about stem cells, either, genius. STEM stands for Science, Technology, Engineering, and Mathematics…..

        1310. No. If you buy stuff to make someone happy and have them love or like you it’s because YOU need validation. And if you need validation from someone that is stupid, and then do stupid stuff to get it, then YOU are just a stupid.
          So, start hanging out with smart women and problem solved.

        1313. The NFL does look bad bc their are many cases of issues like domestic violence. Everyone knows the NFL has a bad image so ur point makes no sense
          The NFL has that bad image bc the culture and belief of being above the law got out of hand
          Just like cops

        1314. Ok, thanks for the input buddy. Go high five yourself in the mirror. Every single group of people on planet earth has a few bad apples. If that makes you view the whole group as bad I feel sorry for you.

        1315. You’re simply delusional. A 0.7 waist-hip ratio, symmetrical features, clear skin, youth, health, and other indications of fertility and high-quality genes never go out of style. Nothing else ever comes into style among Eurasian peoples. A look at the classical art of Greece, Rome, Persia and India confirms this.
          Women may be able to convince themselves that they want whatever their girlfriends want, but men’s desires are overwhelmingly genetically programmed and physical. You have no understanding of how immediate and hormonal male libido is. Pubescent boys aren’t attracted to girls because somebody told them to be, but because they’re popping 20+ boners a day from the slightest glimpse or thought of girls. We care about your social status (not to mention your feeelings) about as much as you care about the size of our tits.
          Your use of “constructed” indicates that you have bought into the po-mo – deconstructionist – critical theory twaddle. Beauty is largely objective and even measurable, the correlations between different raters are extremely high. ( See the top several links from this search will give you something to be mad about: “site:heartiste.wordpress.com attractiveness OR beauty science objective study” )
          If a man isn’t asking you out, you may not be his personal taste. If men in general aren’t hitting on you, it’s because none of them find you attractive which means you are objectively ugly and nothing else can overcome that – not money, status, fame, education, smarts, personality – NOTHING. You may not like it, but no one is going to rearrange the universe so an ugly crazy female gets the adulation to which she feeels entitled.

        1319. You don’t waste the time to check grammar on a thread. What are you a fucking robot.
          How about this son. I don’t waste time checking grammar on a thread

        1320. It’s when it is a reoccurring problem that the groups image takes a hit.
          I myself said most cops are heros an hour ago here. To you ! So nice try the only way you can argue back is by ignoring what I already said.
          The NFL has a lot of people that have broken laws in violent ways
          baseball players are all suspected bc so many players took steroids.
          It’s not fair to the good ones but we all judge a group when a reoccurring issue happens over and over.
          Yourself included
          So don’t generalize if you don’t want it done to you

        1321. Yes I have a job and don’t get home until late.
          It’s a thread not a published paper.
          I check my grammar in dozens of emails every single day. When I go on my phone for 5 minutes I’m not going to do the same.

        1322. Ok, once again thanks for your input. You’ve proved nothing and no one here gives a shit about you

        1323. The tide is changing because boys are systematically drugged up with ridilan (spelling) and girls are patted on the head for simply farting in school. It’s forced and it’s fake

        1324. No. The ritalin generation is currently in college. The generation of having an increase in women’s roles in innovation and invention has been increasing since the 60’s.
          I really hope you are not insinuating common core was brought on to help girls succeed in the educational system.

        1325. Oh of course not pumpkin, I wouldn’t want to offend you. Boys are not designed to sit in a damn classroom for 8 hrs a day. They’re made to go out and hunt, build, exercise. School a heaven for girls. Today’s society favorites women so don’t pat yourself on the back

        1326. School is a place where you sit, memorize and repeat. The very thing that men are not good at and never will be. Women on the other hand…perfect environment for them

        1327. aka
          I know I’m wrong but I’m too insecure to say good point if I’m going to generalize I need to be ok with people generalizing me.
          Try not to be so insecure it shows ur weak

        1328. Your point in noted but it doesn’t mean I think it was a good point. I just don’t feel like arguing in circles with someone.

        1330. A cop shoots the wrong person all of a sudden all cops are bad. A cop says something you don’t agree with all cops must be bad. Ok I get it. Give yourself a cookie

        1331. A women get knocked up in the military all of a sudden all female soldiers are bad.
          See your whole arguement here is based on generalizing just like that.
          Cops are in a position of authority and shud have the maturity to realize that you can’t base what you think about a type of person just bc of a past experience,
          The fact u say that about rape scares me. How can u have that attitude and be a cop.
          Most cops are great but they need to do a better job of screening ppl out like you if u actually are a cop.

        1332. Cops have to act and react in the heat of the moment son. Cops don’t get a gun or fake gun pointed at them and have the time to think about the past. For fucks sake dude.

        1333. You clearly have no world experience. What you say is very easy sitting at a desk. In the heat of the moment I promise you young man, it’s a bit different. But thanks for your back seat driving

        1334. And at what point did I say all female soldiers are bad?? In my opinion, women do not belong in the military. BUT, yes…I did meet a few good ones.

        1335. Believe me, I wished we all lived in a universe of unicorns and rainbows where everything is fair and no one ever gets hurt. But that’s not reality. Unfortunately you can’t understand that. Maybe now you should go protest because your feeeewings are hurt

        1336. I’m not talking about cops making an honest mistake try to protect their lives.
          I am referring to others who shoot ppl who are running away. The ones that attack 15 year old girls for having a party. Those.
          Most are heros but their are some that r anything but.
          But I don’t generalize bc it’s not fair to the majority
          Get it

        1337. I agree with you. Those guys are shitbags. You can try to weed out people all you want. In the real world some people slip through the cracks just like you did.

        1339. Well if u want to go on a rant about women lying about rape getting pregnant in the military basically saying their is a problem with women
          If that’s ur reasoning with all the videos of cops killing ppl who r running away not attacking or beating ppl who surrender u have to say their is a problem with cops.
          You can’t generalize one group but not accept the same for urs

        1340. How am I crying. I trying to make you realize ur the one whining and crying.
          Women did this.
          They shud T do that.
          They do this
          They can’t to that
          Ur crying about women. Your just a very weak person

        1341. I accept the same for all groups. At what point did I say I didn’t? You have a weird cop fetish? You keep bringing up cops.

        1342. Little white knight keyboard warrior….standing up for women isn’t going to get you laid.

        1348. Marriage laws are not stacked against men?
          You’re trolling, right? There’s no other logical explanation for what you just said. Women are awarded the LION’S SHARE of alimony and child support after a divorce. When this perpetuates itself, it means that MARRIAGE LAWS ARE STACKED AGAINST MEN.
          Please tell me that you realize this.

        1349. So just because a few feminist have extreme you view you think it’s okay to behave in the same way? Is this kindergarten?

        1350. If you love women so much then why do you say such hurtful things about them? I’ve been reading articles from this site and from what I can take away from it is that women are only good for looks, shouldn’t have sex too much because she will be a used up slut, shouldn’t show any emotions, and should have perfect bodies and perfect everything and live to satisfy you sexually. Oh and she can’t have any mental issues or have been raped/abused because then she’s damaged and no good. You don’t understand how hard it is to “try” and be perfect!

        1351. Women got to play at work… Right. Even IF all that women contributed to the war effort was working the industries needed to keep the products to assist in the war(steel, coal, ect…) they still worked together for the greater goal. Now for your ridiculous claim that women in no way contributed to the war in any way shape or form. Are you so narrow minded that you have over looked the female Russian sniper that had over 309 confirmed kills? What about the Australian Nancy Wake who was a gureilla fighter, was a POW.. Got away and continued blowing up buildings … The list goes on.. POW nurses.. Combat medics.. Flight nurses and spies.. the fact that you over look these women shows just how narrow minded and uninformed you truly are all for what? To say you are the superior sex? Boy o boy did you show me with all of those stunning facts and opinions..No Hollywood glitz here just facts. And to the 10% number of women enlisted. Wrong. 14.5% of women are in combat enlisted positions and 16.5% are in officer positions. If you’re going to go throwing numbers around at least try to do a half assed Google search first.
          Thanks for playing and goodnight.

        1352. I did Google search that. Found more than one video and severa articles.
          Are you just making this up as you go along?

        1353. You’re welcome to tell that to the ghost of the female sniper that had 309 confirmed kills… Guess it’s only relevant if the snipers name is Chris Kyle 😂. Not to mention all the spies.. Combat nurses.. I explained this all above. Your opinion means nothing when not supported by fact. Sorry.

        1354. What it does prove is that if women really cared for their children’s best interests they would not attempt to ever raise a child by themselves.
          ‘Her’ wants and desires should be irrelevant if she has made the sole decision of having a child. Thats a heavy responsibility that rests with women alone.
          Feminists fought tooth and nail for that sole right! But, with rights come responsibilities…
          Men do not have equal reproduction rights thanks to feminism. The right used to be in the marriage contract but that clause along with ‘No Fault’ was also stolen by the feminists.
          Men have zero rights over the child until the mother gives birth. The fates and futures of both the child and father is left entirely with the (often hormonal and irrational) female.
          Women have far more rights over their (born and unborn) children and in western nations like Australia are very well cared for by Big Daddy $GOVT.
          Women have a habit of voting themselves money and handouts by politicians who tell them what they want to hear. Socialism (Welfare State) is the natural result of allowing women to vote.
          For quite a while now Modern Woman has foolishly believed they do not need men. And it’s one of the feminists favourite mantras! Right next to ‘Strong’ and ‘Independent’.
          Well, the prison stats belay otherwise…
          You can only draw one conclusion from this.

        1355. And men don’t cheat on their wives? Get real!!!!! On behalf of women I am sorry for whoever hurt you and jaded you to the point that you can’t see past your own Cynicism to acknowledge what we have done for eachother and how much further we need to go coming from both sides. Really man. I hope you heal one day.

        1357. Sister, sister, sister do you want to know how I can tell you’re unattractive? Because you’re down to Earth. Although your social life is still on relative easy mode – you are one of us. If I were in charge I wouldn’t be making this a No Girlz Allowed club, but as it were you have your group, and this is us making ours. And it will happen. After this shit, I’m firmly off the fence in regards neo-masculinity.
          But don’t worry, sister. With the speed that defines this age I’m sure we’ll see a happy medium in no time. Then hopefully we can get to addressing real problems

        1358. I never said women lost anything, only kept from things.. By men.. And societal standards set forth by the people of that day.. You’re welcome to talk to the two Israeli female battalions that patrol the borders and train men for combat positions. Guess they’re just “going to work” there is an existence of strong women that are welcomed with open arms in other parts of the globe…

        1359. Ps. Which jobs are men better at? All of them? Is this honestly what you think because I can assure you there are things I’m better at than you. Arguing a rational and factual point comes to the forefront of my mind… But to be fair there would be some things you’re better than me at. That’s just how it works..someone will always be better than you.

        1360. Generalisations are very useful for statistics and debate because its well accepted and considered the ‘norm’.
          There is little point formulating statistics using outliers alone.

        1361. Also, you simultaneously say women are to be valued by their beauty/attractiveness, and then complain that they spend money in grooming. Well, if they are being told that’s what’s valued in them, how does it shock you they are trying to get makeup, spas (with treatments to avoid wrinkles or whatever), etc, to feel validated? Aren’t them as slaves as the men you say buy crap to impress?

        1362. But you are not talking statistics, you are just talking about what you think “Modern Women”, “single mothers”, “feminists” consist of, and attributing them qualities and intentions and responsibilities over things, as if these were homogeneous groups. There is no preciseness in what you are saying, and I think you generalize these categories wrongly.

        1363. Its called cause and effect.
          You can reverse the process and arrive back to Jesus’ days as a thought experiment quite easily.
          The 80% prison population statistic proves that single mothers specifically fail at raising young boys.
          Equal reproduction rights would have the effect of reducing the burden on a man to provide for an unwanted child for whatever reason.
          You know, THE EXACT same right women currently enjoy!
          This would greatly reduce the amount of barstard children with only the state left to provide for them instead of using that money for something much more useful for taxpayers.
          Another effect would be a compounding reduction of the prison population as there are progressively less single mothers to raise them.

        1364. I hate your tone. Please don’t add aggressiveness to the argument because it only makes look like someone that feels somehow entitled, and hence the disrespect. You have no reason to disrespect me, and by doing it you are being unfair to me an betraying yourself, because it is an coping mechanism close to hysteria. Disrespect and intolerance are weaknesses of character, and are related to feelings, those things you associate with “women” and “inferior”. So spare me your feeelings, and just talk with arguments. If you don’t share my thoughts prove me wrong, like a smart reasonable man.
          About the classical art, I have studied it and the standards of what is considered attractive has changed a lot. In 19th century they saw healthy women as women not looking like they are starving. In the nineties the more they starved the better. Nowadays many women exercise 3 hours a day, starve and eat vegetables and proteins for months to get themselves to be in the standards of today. So, we don’t really care about women being actually healthy, right? But about them looking a certain way. Do you find Victoria’s women attractive? With those narrow hips and not drinking water days previous to the show so as to look thinner? Models live a life that revolves around makeup, grueling exercising, lettuce eating, eating disorders, sometimes drugs, etc., and you say you care about them being “healthy”?
          “You may not like it, but no one is going to rearrange the universe so an ugly crazy female gets the adulation to which she feeels entitled.” I won’t even address the violence in which you chose to pack this sentence. I will just say that 1) women are to be valued for more than their attractiveness 2) attractiveness is in the eyes of the holder, while it is true that there are some universal standards, converting those into nazism is crazy. You can be attracted to a chubby or a fat woman. Maybe YOU are not, but it doesn’t mean they are “ugly crazy females” because you don’t like them. And the same goes the other way around.
          It’s also funny how you ridicule the “feeelings” thing. You are really something. I would love to be able to see the world through your eyes and understand what it is you are really seeing, sparing me the defensiveness and hatred in your speech. If you could honestly share, without the bullshit, and making an effort to speak to me they way you would like to be spoken to, then I would be super glad to read your views, because I still don’t understand the lack of love you guys have for women. I just don’t get it.
          From my point of view, feminism is about looking for equality, and that doesn’t mean to defend that men and women are the same, but equality in worth. So, genders are different, different traits, but one is not better than the other. And that’s it. I get it that there is another kind of feminism, that is more filled with hatred. I detest it too, but there it is, they are as dumb as the guys that in these threads are claiming superiority over women. Dumb those kind of feminists, and dumb sexists. Can’t we be not the dumb type?

        1365. No, just calling out your bullshit. I let whining to you, your feminist friends and motherfuckers like you.

        1366. They really do don’t they. It’s all that real life experience they got while sitting on the Internet in their mothers basement after throwing their fedoras against the wall because the girl they love only likes them as a friend. ‘Why are girls stupid’ ‘oh.. Everything on the Internet is true’

        1368. I’d say im a solid 6.. Happy with it.
          I’d rather be unattractive to the close minded and judgmental than beautiful for a bunch of fools… That’s me though..

        1369. Darling why don’t you go into your local supermarket and look at how much shelf space is devoted to pads as a total percentage of intimate products. You just might be surprised. In the local supermarket I go to the shelf space is about the same for both pads and tampons.

        1370. No, LOSER. You know as well as I do that we are not “misandrists.” We LOVE REAL MEN, not pathetic, ugly, hateful, childish MISOGYNIST PIGS who want to justify their own drooling desires for violence against, and hatred of, women. You deserve to have every bit of rage and disgust that people – men and women alike – have spit and shouted at you, both online and off. You are the lowest of scum and we feel absolutely ZERO pity for the lot of you. You deserve every moment of misfortune and adversity and I hope there will be more of it coming your way, in devastating amounts, until you figure out how stupid you have been, and that you owe your mothers and sisters the biggest and most humble apology you can squeeze out of the black rock that is your soul. How unfortunate for you that you will never have the level of integrity that such an action requires. LOSER.

        1371. I don’t really have to try and one up you to be honest. I deal with the demons I’ve been handed without having to try and make myself seem more hard done by to others.

        1373. Nice defensive response there. I would guess from experience I hit the nail on the head then, or should I say fedora.

        1378. So, I know that you did not just overextend your own sense of male privilege and ego by stepping out of your realm and compentence to try to school a woman on feminine hygiene products. Get the hell out of here, son.
          Call me darling when telling me about how my period works. Jesus.
          Thank you, though, for proving that you value a woman’s word so little. Conversation done.

        1379. Scientifically female have more IQs than men. What did you all do with the ten procent. Make war?

        1382. I know what i stink of and its equal right. As long as i live i will make sure i continue to stink of equality.

        1383. I hope you do, everyone deserves equality. But you don’t get to pick and choose when it benefits you.

        1384. On average men and women have roughly the same IQs however the top 5 all time highest IQs are held by men. Men have created everything around you and all the technological, social and cultural advances have been made by men. There has never been a female Mozart, Einstein, Da Vinci, Hawking, the list could go on and on. Women have never invented anything of substance (there are very very few exceptions)

        1385. I never claimed that men are better at all jobs. Men are better at jobs that require leadership, physical work and analytic thinking such as politics, science and the millitary while women are better at more nurturing kind of jobs such as teaching, being doctors etc. This is all due to significant hormonal differences in the male and female bodies

        1386. Those women who were fighting comprise very few cases and they dont even make up 1% of the soldiers in WW1 and WW2. There were almost all men fighting and sacrificing their lives for their nation. The majority of spies were male, you can simply google that. It was at this time (after ww1) that women were given the vote in the UK, even though they werent conscripted into the army. That meant that they could vote in pro war candidates who would start wars and conscript men into the army while women were exempted. That is the true definiton of privelege.

        1387. I totally did! It was quite late, and I was replying to several other people all at once. I’m sure you could see how that could happen, but good on ya! Thank you for contributing to the discussion in your very special way. When I need a spell and grammar check at 1 in the morning I’ll blow your inbox up!

        1388. Women didnt even make 1% of soldiers in WW1 or WW2 so it isnt my opinion, its just facts. But ofcourse, facts and logic are patriarchal constructs that are designed to opress women.

        1389. The top 5 highest IQs of all time are those of men. There has never been a female Mozart, Da Vinci, Einstein, Hawking etc etc They have contributed nothing of significance to the world even after the advent of feminism (except for very few exceptions)

        1390. I didn’t say you did, I asked you specifically which jobs men were better at because you just said men were better… So are you saying men with lower testosterone are better as nurturers than in leadership roles? It’s no secret men start losing their testosterone after 30… I still maintain that there exist a woman that is better than a man and vice versa at any given job although I don’t actually have any data on that its just my opinion.

        1391. I never claimed that. I simply rebuked your statement, which was an outright lie, that women could lift as much as men and that they could run as fast as men with simple scientific facts. Stop lying and putting words in other peoples mouths.

        1392. That is what I was talking about which is exactly why I capitalized ‘STEM’ so as to differentiate it with stem cells. And you did not even reply to my statement. You are really are new level of stupid

        1393. Then why are none of them garbage collectors? Or work on oil rigs? Because they are in cushy HR jobs, getting checks for playing solitaire.

        1394. Ahem. I was told women in no way helped the war efforts all we did was “go to work” I proved this to be false. Again, it was frowned upon for a woman to serve in the military, and we were not allowed to see active combat. That all changes THIS year. So, I will continue to remember my grandfather who lost an arm on D-day for what he did for this country and also recognize the female counter parts that helped both at home and abroad from true oppression. You can continue to pat yourselves on the back for a job well done for a job that only men were really allowed to do… Now I will explain this again. If women are barred from doing something like voting or seeing active combat because those in power at the time (men) say so then of course our numbers won’t be as high as the men’s… Because we weren’t allowed to… See?
          Where are you getting your 1-2% figure from? Thin air? As I’ve found over 350,000 women served in the military with another 2.2million working in war industries… So.. All that FACT and logic is coming from where?

        1395. Where are you getting your 1% figure from? If you have a source of be happy to read it👍🏻

        1396. Even though men experience a decrease in testosterone levels starting from the age of 30 even by the ages of 60 or 70 their testosterone levels are way way more than that of womens making them better at leadership roles. Your last statement is not supported by scientific facts and is, frankly, ludicurous. Remember feminists, you are fighting a battle against nature itself and it is one that you cannot win.

        1398. Hundreds of millions?!?? Russia only had a population of about 109,000,000 in 1939 dude! Hundreds of millions?!?! Now I know you’re pulling figures out of your ass 😂😂😂😂

        1399. I am talking about combat roles in the army. And women were barred for a good reason due to the massive differences in the physical capabilities of the sexes. Men were out their dying for their country while women could vote in pro war leaders who would forcibly conscript men into the armies while women were exempted. So I will continue remembering my great grandfather who lost a leg in the Batte of Verdun in WW1. And regarding combat roles you can read about it here
          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_World_War_I

        1400. I know the difference between actual data and my opinion and state when the two differ, just as I did above. Please go on about that clinching 1% figure and the hundreds of millions of dead Russians with all that scientific fact and all….😂😂😂 until you can show that women are less capable than men leading with real proof, not opinion. You have once again been defeated.

        1401. It was a figure of speech not meant to be taken literally. And you did not reply to the fact that when compared with the Russian men fighting the handful of womens battalions only comprised 1 or 2%

        1402. Men throughout history have produced overwhelmingly more leaders than women. You can google the effects of testosterone on leadership. Even after being given the vote and comprising half of the population women there have been few female heads of state even though women are free to vote and stand for candidacy. What does this tell you?

        1403. Are you serious mate? Have you never met a woman before? What would you rather: work on an oil rig… or work as a nurse in ER, where nurses (male and female) regularly get threatened with dirty needles, get assaulted by mentally ill patients, deal with faeces, deal with puss-filled wounds and worse…? Would you rather work out in the sewerage works as a man, where you now barely ever have to go out into the shitponds… and get at least $21 an hour… or wait tables for shitty customers for $2 an hour and whatever tips rude assholes decide to give you? Would you rather hurt your back rolling the elderly over, and clean their bedsores up and change their nappies, and have to deal with the sight of old people’s genitals, as a female carer in a nursing home, or would you rather hurt your back out on a construction site? Both shitty jobs. Also, mate, garbage vans are mostly automated now. You sit in a truck and push a button. Would you rather do that, or be a female meat or fish products proccessor?
          Women and men both do shitty jobs.

        1404. Women were barred by men. If you’re honestly trying to blame women for voting in leaders that were pro war you truly are jaded. Your great grand pappy lost his leg in a war that started before women could vote. But nice one up. Male leaders sent the boys to war and told the women to they couldn’t fight, so instead we were told to go work in war factories and take care of the farms. That’s what we did. Some of us enlisted and 70% of those enlisted were only given female “suited”positions if you cannot see how the male leadership forced these roles then I will bid you ado and encourage you to get your facts straight before going toe to toe with a true blue feminist because they are even more knowledgable than me on women’s history and male influence. You’re gonna have to do better than this, if you want to “win” .. Whatever that means to you… Ciao

        1405. My mother is a neurocritical care nurse, and she is honest and decent enough to realize that dealing with these people is much worse than dying alone in a foreign land to be desecrated by your enemies, or having a closed casket funeral because of an accident on the rig you were working on. You are the one who lacks empathy, you and all of you protected political class friends.

        1406. Then who are the guys running around throwing garbage into the back I wonder. You live in a fantasy world. You defend no one but those who tear down others to live a life of privelege never before seen in this world. A woman could stab a man, yell rape, and the crowd would attack the man who was stabbed. He could of cured cancer, but they won’t stop and use their brains until he is dead. And then the female gets off scot free.

        1407. Its not about men telling women not to fight it is simply due to the glaring physical differences between men and women(men being twice as strong,fast etc) that they didnt fight and you claimed that women were in combat roles. My statement was in reply to that. After 1918 when women (over 30 with property) in UK were given the vote they could vote in pro war leaders where men would be conscripted and women exempted. That is the true definition of privelege. And ‘true feminists are even more knowledgable than you’? Well if you pass for a knowledgable person in the feminist circles i can only imagine what the rest are like.

        1408. The patriarchy is still strong? People on this particular blog site that feel women are less and weak and talk down to females in such a way or confine them… Tape them without them knowing during sexual encounters.. Refusing to acknowledge their roles in war science, and other industries.. You’ve done so yourself. Why? What has you so jaded that you can’t recognize women’s contributions to things? To the point where you are literally making numbers up? The old way is on its way out. I was raised to be self sustaining. I learned how to hunt, work on cars, build chicken coops, do yard work, and also cook, clean, and look after younger individuals as well as basic first aid. I can navigate computers and have the capability of doing research and finding data to support my arguments.And there’s millions more just like me. Non “traditional”. Would you rather have women silent? Obedient? Or would you rather have them as your equal working towards the greater good? Are you so afraid of being emasculated that you are unable to see how male leadership has conditioned you into being afraid of the outspoken woman? Is it your religious views? What?
          We have a woman running for president again. I’m not
          Voting for her. Not because I don’t think she’s capable but because I believe she is apart of an old system that no longer works, and she is using her gender as her ticket in to try and play at the boys club. That’s not how we get true equality and that’s all I’m really interested in.

        1409. Nobody here has said women are lesser than men they just said they are physically weaker which is just a fact. Taping during sex without consent is a crime. Women havent contributed in combat roles in war and their contribution in science and ‘other industries’ has been negligible compared to men’s. Why do you have to steer this discussion towards ‘muh feels’ and ‘why are you afraid of women’ and typical feminist BS rather than a logical and rational debate based on facts which i have presented to you. Look, nobody here is a misogynist or hates women as you are trying to portray them. In the end, i would just say do whatever you want and stay happy. Its a free country.

        1410. “Physical work” maybe–on the average–but who says men are better at “leadership” or “analytical thinking”?!?

        1411. Don’t become insulting. It’s the last ditch effort of a fledgling argument. I’m not the one literally making numbers up.I don’t claim to be a feminist, this is your assumption of me. My claim of women being in combat roles still stands. I am speaking of women being told they could not fight in the US and were told to go to work by male leaders. I used women in actual combat roles (the spies, the snipers, the legionnaire non traditional roles and also not US affiliated. ) as an example that women did contribute to winning the wars. You are again assuming women in the UK voted in pro war leaders so only men would be allowed to fight and I’m not sure why you think they were privileged because they as well were not allowed in combat roles..your refusal to acknowledge how the patriarchy societal standards played a role in how the general population thought is frightening. If you tell someone all they are good for is breeding and cooking and won’t allow them to do anything else that’s all they will do.. Well.. At least then anyway times are changing 👍🏻. I would encourage you to look up an article about female tommies during this time.. It’s actually a good article

        1412. 1. Where I live, they are automated. Button push and its done. They have them in Venice and Long Beach and lots of places. My point still remains. Wanna wipe an old man’s ass or pick up garbage? Both are just as disgusting.
          2. I love that you ignore every single point. Your argument skills are brilliant.

        1413. Due to more testosterone in their bodies men are more suited for leadership and fare better in analytical thinking. Google the effects of testosterone on the mind.

        1414. Yes I did.
          You:
          1. Did not show where the 1% figure came from even after I asked
          2. Made up a “hundreds of millions” figure
          3. Showed no math in regards to either magical number.

        1415. Testosterone doesn’t create BETTER leaders; maybe to some extent higher testosterone makes people WANT to be leaders. Not the same thing at all. Politicians who want power scare most of us–and rightfully so.

        1416. Yeah, that’s not true. Its one person’s opinion, vs most nurses (male and female) I have met. I don’t know how some of my male nurse friends would feel hearing you say that. Your language is so dramatic, its like you think you’re writing shakespeare. Oil rig deaths are only happening too regularly because of the lack of safety regulations mate, so speaking of politics, go make the world a better place by lobbying for the oil rig owners to start taking their safety responsibilities seriously.

        1418. Hope that in the general election you’ll vote for the best candidate who has a chance of winning. Yeah, that may mean voting for “the lesser evil”; better than “the greater evil”–ie someone who will try to bring back “the old way” on every issue. Think long and hard about what you actually believe in and which candidate comes closes to your values. And remember: Federal court appointments are for life.

        1419. Also mate, we’re not talking about people dying on the job, anythings better than that and we are lucky the numbers of deaths per year are small. You were talking about cushy jobs vs hard jobs. Cool change of subject though.

        1420. 1. From where did YOU get the ‘70% women who enlisted were given suitable roles’ Did the 30% women go for combat roles? And they werent given those roles, the women only applied for those roles.
          2. For the last time it was not meant to be taken literally, i was just contrasting the huge number of Russian men fighting as compared to the women. How dumb are you to not understand that it wasnt meant to be taken literally.
          3. Since there were only a couple of women battalions in the Russian Army in WW1 what percentage do you think that they comprised in the total army. 1 to 2% is a logical estimate.

        1421. I will tell you why your number is completely made up and irrational. Hell you can use this as an arguing point if you’d like…
          In 1914 the Russian army was just over 6,553,000 million men strong.
          During ww1, only 6000 women were ever enlisted as combatants because Russian law forbid women from enlisting. 1% of 6,553,000… Is 65,000…
          Did you want to tell me more about how men are better at logic, facts, science and so on and so forth?
          And how stupid I am for being able to show not only facts but expose your made up numbers as total bullshit?
          Holy shit dude.

        1423. So women’s contribution in the war was even less than 1%? Youve just proven my point. Also, you changed your stance from claiming that women played an active combat role in WW1 and 2 to saying that they were barred and proving that there contribution wasnt even 1%. And where did YOU get your 70% enlisted women were given suitable roles statement from? And what of the remaining 30%?

        1424. So women’s contribution in the war was even less than 1%? Youve just proven my point. Also, you changed your stance from claiming that women played an active combat role in WW1 and 2 to saying that they were barred and proving that there contribution wasnt even 1%. And where did YOU get your 70% enlisted women were given suitable roles statement from? And what of the remaining 30%? Were they involved in combat? I also said that 1% was an estimate. 6000 is pretty close to 60,000 when we are talking about an army of 6 million.

        1426. No, I did not prove your point. I only proved that you were literally making up numbers. Also you said 1-2% of the Russian army. Should I break down the numbers based in each countries participation for each war and show you that your 1% “estimation” is wrong in damn near every case? Do you really want me to break down the numbers further on you? Again. I stated examples of women who were in active combat roles that were not American. The American women I cited as assisting in the war were flight nurses and pow nurses… The positions women were allowed to have…America women were not allowed in combat positions you’re welcome to go back and read. I feel like I’m becoming a broken record and you’re clutching to any shred of an argument you have left..I can see you are not one for actually looking up data and I have grown tired of smacking you around with facts. The 70% number is easily researched and can be found on Wikipedia outlining women of ww2.. The other 30 percent were in auxiliary positions… Blah blah blah… I am happy that your HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS figure came closer to the actual 6,000,000 number though… Good job buddy.

        1427. There were actually 15 women battalions… And saying women’s total contribution to the war is even less than 1% is obtuse since you were speaking specifically of the Russian forces. We also seem to be going back and forth between ww1 and 2… They each have different numbers. Numbers that I am not making up, unlike yourself…

        1428. You are the one who first made personal attacks while i just based my arguments around facts. And the part about making numbers up, I have already replied to you about that above. You still havent shown where you got that ‘70% enlisted women’ stat from. And women were not told not to go in combat roles it is due to simple science and NATURE. They were given the vote which they shouldnt have been since they werent capable of fighting and shouldnt elect pro war leaders. You have a very primitive view of the world as you keep seeing women were ‘told to’ and all that. Do you think women are babies that they need to be told to and stuff. It is due to simple biology that there are different roles for the sexes. Your entire argument is based around ‘muh feels’ and emotions and ‘ OMG why do you hate women’ etc.

        1429. Statistically, Russian womens contribution in combat roles in WW1 was less than 1% just as you have said. I, atleast, am just talking about WW1 here. I’ve always said that 1% was an estimate and it is pretty close to the actual number.

        1430. You have not always said that is was an estimate you said 1-2% without adding in that it was estimate. Stop dude… Or at least go back and edit your comments to make it look like you said it was… 😂😂😂😂😂

        1431. I told you where to find it… I’m tired of showing you how numbers and research works… Hahaha

        1432. Wow. So much passive-aggresiveness there and I am the one making personal attacks. I was just talking about combat roles and not other roles, which you can see in all other countries other than Russia (where it was pretty close to 1%) was zero. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_World_War_I
          You can see it here. You also changed your stance from saying women actively participated in combat roles in WW1 to saying that they were effectively barred from participating in combat roles. We can go back and forth about this all day. I am talking about just COMBAT ROLES in WW1 and 1% was an estimate and it was close to the official number.

        1433. Look, 60,000 was pretty close to 6000 considering that we are talking about an army of about 6 million here. And it disproved your point that Russian women took an active combat role in WW1. Also, those emojis makes you look like a teen on Facebook.

        1434. Also I did not attack you personally first. You have insulted my intellect and ability to discern logic and only made excuses for your bullshit numbers. You just like to make it up as you go along don’t you?

        1435. I seriously do not want to make personal attacks here, but you really sound immature. You should actually come up with a rebuttal to my statement but you are just like ‘i told you where to find it hahahahahahha’.

        1436. I gave you a rational debate with examples and REAL numbers I only asked about “your feels” because I can’t understand for the life of me why someone would knowingly disregard the roles women have played in the winning of our wars. Just because women have been told they are weaker and less capable doesn’t make it so.

        1437. You can look up any of your previous comments to see who actually personally attacked the other. Also, I have defended the 1% stat on countless other comments and honestly I am tired of trying to explain the same thing to you while you keep on posting ‘OMG you make fake statistics up’

        1438. “1% of 6,553,000… Is 65,000… Did you want to tell me more about how men are better at logic, facts, science and so on and so forth?”
          So in an effort to prove to Tergon18 how bad his math is (even though he was clearly estimating while you had the actual numbers in front of you) you not only prove to us that you can’t do math properly, but that Tergon18’s point (that very few women served in active combat in WWII) was actually more correct than even HE thought it was. Oh Laura …

        1439. You’re an asshat. You would have to be blind not to realize that white women are the most priveleged class of people in the history of the world, right next to Qin emperors.

        1440. Look, we are talking about two very different things here. I am talking about woman in COMBAT ROLES while you are obviously talking about non-combat roles. Women are physically weaker than men, that is a scientific fact, why are you trying to deny that. And then you claim to use facts. This last statement of yours proves your argument is only based on ‘muh feels’.

        1441. Yes it is true. I won’t tell you where she works because miserable losers like you stalk and ruin your prey’s lives rather than face the truth.

        1442. Omg you totally made up fake statistics and then said “they were estimates” ” it wasn’t supposed to be taken literally” and “figure of speech” when trying to prove data sensitive topics. Your hurt ego and smashed logic doesn’t count as a personal attack.

        1443. To your second ‘point’, I don’t respond to blatant lies and misdirection. You came here on a false set of beliefs about a man, a set of beliefs you would not have if you did even the most basic of research.

        1444. So when someone says 1-2% you don’t automatically take that as an estimate? In what situation would 1-2% be considered an exact number? If I told you I had 1-2 cars, would you consider that an exact number, or an estimate?

        1445. Awe I like my emojis. They really show how I feels. I asked you to provide data and you didn’t. Women did take an active role to the best that the law allowed. Even one woman in a combat role is an active participant. One more time, I cited non American women who took combative roles in ww2 against another debator to prove that women helped in the fighting of the war. Also I provided you with a figure to research and also an article to read on female tommies that I think you will actually find interesting. In the title is says “how sexism saved Britain” now if you’re quite finished pouting and licking your wounds we can get on with our day.
          Ciao.

        1446. Look, what are you trying to prove by this debate? First you say women played an active combat role in ww1 then you say that their contribution in combat roles (it only was in Russia) was less than 1% it was 0.1%. That is very very close to my estimate. ‘Hurt ego’? Lol. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

        1447. My stance has always been: women were forbidden from assuming active combat roles. Had they not been more may have enlisted in them. The exceptions to the said rule above were contributing to the winning of said wars. Just because YOU can’t understand the logic behind it doesn’t mean it isn’t there.
          I have been arguing against two of you one of which says women in no way shape or form helped the war movement and you are kind of saying that and that women are the weaker sex.. I provided examples and REAL numbers to show that you were both incorrect. As far as physical strength? I would say in most cases men are stronger. I wouldn’t say more resilient and I think men are great nurturing individuals. You have stated men are better than women at science and leadership roles. I’ve seen no data to back this up other than “well you guys can vote now and look how many women are leading” considering we have had to fight against a long established patriarchy. You’ve called me stupid, and a feminist, and made up numbers only to back track. You aren’t interested in a debate you’re interested in trying to downplay women’s strengths. And that is the problem.

        1449. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_World_War_I
          This Wikipedia article shows that women in WW1 did not take part in COMBAT roles which is the only thing I was talking about. We have been arguing about two very different things for a long time here I was only talking about combat roles while you were talking about non combat roles. Again, personal attacks. ‘Licking your wounds’ You are very delusional. There is simply no POINT in taking this debate further since we talking about different topics. Have a good day.

        1451. Licking your wounds is a personal attack? In what way? You’ve been defeated. I mean it’s not as insulting as saying things like “your type” and “your kind” but I digress
          Anywho so you don’t lament on that 70% figure you were hoping I was making up.. Here’s the link.. You have yourself a good day.
          http://Www.libguides.mnhs.org/wwii_women

        1452. Look up female tommies dude. Just quickly look for it on google you will see what you just said waaaaaaaas bullshit. Look at their ages, look at their backgrounds(for your comment about privilege) seriously read the article. It’s called ” how female tommies and sexism helped save Britain”

        1453. You obviously see a lot of things diferently than we do. We are forming an organization that you won’t like and aren’t invited to.

        1454. The first computer programmer was the guy who made the first programmable computer who was a MAN who build and programmed HIS own and FIRST computer.
          Is like a guy who invents a calculator and adds and then comes a womynzz and makes a square root.
          Women are demonstrably less intelligent than men.
          The other inventions are stuff invented by men applied by women in a different place. Nothing that a child can’t do.
          What do you mean with “equal opportunities”??? Get in education with men? Have the opportunity to study the knowledge that men have created?? Because knowledge has to be created and men do it, women are incapable, so they whining about being discriminated by men instead of realize that their are stupid and by their own are nothing, you let men alone and make science, maths, philosophy, music, law, civilization, you let women alone and make nothing special.

        1455. Again, my argument was. Women played an active role in winning the wars. I was told by you and another guy that women played NO ACTIVE PART in it. I had stated that women were banned from combative roles and if they hadn’t been more than the exceptions to the rule would have contributed. Women in enlistment had positions that were deemed okay for females.. Stuff like office work and typing and nursing..that made impossible for more men to fight That’s where the 70% number came from the other 30% were auxiliary positions. After being told women played no role what so ever(I’m aware you did not say this) my total argument was that women’s contributions to the war efforts both abroad and on the Homefront should not be discredited just because you guys want to keep your pecking order. Times are changing guys. I don’t want men to be squished under the feminista heel nor do women who advocate for true equality to be smeared, called stupid, and told go home sweetie before you get hurt. Yes there are man haters out there. I’m not one of them. I would like to go to work in a male dominated field and not be called a bitch because I am as aggressive and assertive as my male counterparts and we are a long way from that. The fact that you guys have denied any female contributions to the war is disrespectful to those women who did serve and die.

        1456. He was trying to prove a point and started using false data to do so. The actual number was well below his supposed estimate. Get a grip.

        1457. The reply right above that has the actual 65530. I even said excuse me I. It moment after I had posted…….. Read slower.

        1459. So you got an easy mathematical calculation right the second time?
          Round of applause everyone!

        1460. Hey man I can correct myself when I’m in correct instead of just making up numbers… Did you have anything of substance to add or is it just half-assed insults? Sad.

        1462. So is that a yes or a no to my question regarding whether or not you consider “1-2%” to be an exact number. Stay focused.

        1463. Also he said no women served in active combat read more of his replies I showed this was untrue.

        1464. If it’s used to back up ones point. Especially in a discussion where numbers are supposed to mean something….. 1-2% is an incorrect number I showed this.

        1466. I don’t like to edit my comments and my phone screen is small! Hard to take on so many whiney dudes at once! But since I’m not submitting this discussion for a final project my spell check isn’t actually necessary however, I’m up for the challenge. Again did you have anything of substance to add to the conversation or are you just generally trolling trying to invoke emotion? The sign of a small intellect ladies and mostly gentlemen…

        1467. You showed nothing of the sort. If the actual numbers (versus estimates) are that important to you, you can’t argue that HIS numbers are incorrect while basing your numbers solely on the number of women who fought with the Russians. Clearly, the Russians weren’t the only nation fighting in WWII. So if you really do want to split hairs over whether or not the number is 1%, or less than 1%, you really should tally up the numbers of all the nations involved in active combat.

        1469. I agree to a point but he was using them as a specific example. He also said there were only a couple of female Russian battalions. There were actually 15. I have provided him with resources of other active women from different countries that were in combative positions to read on whether he does or not is up to him.
          And the numbers both of us were talking about were for WWI… Try and stay focused 😘

        1470. The statement “a couple of female Russian battalions” is clearly compatible with the statement “15 female Russian battalions” when you consider the total number of Russian battalions. Surely you can understand that?

        1471. Why do you feel the need to reach for personal insults when you feel challenged or insecure … is that the sign of a big intellect?

        1472. “Please don’t add aggressiveness to the argument…”,”You have no reason to disrespect me”,
          You started by claiming that men have no right to their own perceptions and preferences, which I charitably view as insane, rather than simply Orwellian. Either way, it is a good reason not to respect your opinion on the subject, but your rationalization of this insane view is common among women, many of whom feel they deserve to be considered more attractive. Not to imply you are a journalist, but Steve Sailer’s (1st) Law of Female Journalism, (from 2009, repeated a few days ago) seems relevant:
          “The most heartfelt articles by female journalists tend to be demands that social values be overturned in order that, Come the Revolution, the journalist herself will be considered hotter-looking.”
          ” it is an coping mechanism close to hysteria.”
          Projection – it’s not just a coping mechanism, it’s your way of life.
          You say men and women are of equal worth, but that is an assumption rather than an observation or deduction. For any particular and plausible measure of worth, the premise is false. The best men are better than the best women at everything useful other than becoming pregnant and giving birth. (and women have stopped doing much of even that) Women also excel in conformity, consumerism, rationalization, projection, narcissistic and borderline personality disorders, obesity, envy, spite, vanity gossip, daytime television absorption, spousal and child abuse (both physical and especially mental), susceptibility to and infliction of school indoctrination, anxiety, depression and SSS (special snowflake syndrome).
          The best men are better than the best women at all physical skills (in fact, there is scarcely any overlap in the distributions), particularly strength, endurance, reaction speed and fine motor control. Men even sew and cook better than women – all top surgeons and chefs are men.
          Women lack originality, having contributed perhaps 1/30th as much as men in any of the arts despite having more leisure, greater security and equal or better access to training in the arts. Women are paid about 40% of all wages and salaries, though nearly all of this is for often counterproductive and make-work office jobs, but they control 80% of all spending, live longer than men and so by inheritance have come to own about 60% of all assets. Those assets include the majority of corporate stock, while there has never been a female inventor, entrepreneur or executive of the stature of Edison, Ford, Jobs, or Gates – or even Lemelson, Tucker, Sinclair, or Kildall.
          Yet women are given enormous preferences under the law – in criminal sentencing (and every step of the process before and after) women get a pass, the difference being several times greater than the black-white preference. The Violence Against Women Act allows any woman to put any man living in the same household in jail on her unsupported word, even if, as is often the case, she is lying or he was defending himself. (Women battering men is at least as frequent and severe as the reverse, and emotional abuse by women is far more common than the reverse. This is not contradicted by any valid research, so the feminist anti-man narrative with its made-up statistics is clearly that of evil women lying to maintain and expand their abusive power.) Universities now expel men on the basis of unsupported and uninvestigated allegations by women made months or even years after the fact, but men’s allegations against women are dismissed, and women’s false or frivolous allegations are never punished.
          I could go on about all the female privileges in law, academia, and business, the vast disparity in death rates and homelessness, that the welfare safety net exists only for women, the ongoing efforts to criminalize normal male sexuality, the way that marriage entails enforceable obligations only for men (which often continue to be enforced after divorce), the lack of any male reproductive rights equivalent to women’s (abortion, giving up for adoption), how tens of thousands of men are in debtor’s prison because they lost their jobs and couldn’t pay child support, how any later children of a man get the leavings after earlier support orders are paid, how women have no obligation to spend child support for the benefit of children, how visitation orders are only enforced against men, how onerous restraining orders are given against men without evidence or hearings, …
          But of course all that is as nothing compared to the oppression you face by not being considered as desirable as the next hussy, man-trap, slattern or drab.
          One story will have to serve to convey how I came to despise the vast majority of women. In the early ’90s as a paralegal managing my aunt’s law office I handled every piece of paper in dozens of contested divorces and custody cases. She specialized in representing fathers. She was a woman of rare quality, and I’m honored to have worked with her and to have attended her in her final months some twelve years later.
          One young father, not married to the mother, attempted to get custody of his infant son. He had a capable family, a wife, and a smart mother who fought tirelessly to help him rescue her grandson. The mother went to New York and sold the baby to strangers, the father got wind of this (mom bragged to rub it in) and intervened in court before the adoption, my aunt did the case pro-bono, including travel to N.Y. (despite being herself in perpetual debt) but the woman judge in N.Y. backed the baby-selling mother and the baby-buying adoptive parents over the parental rights of the natural father, issued a gag order on all parties and sealed the records forever.
          Women should be happy to be judged by their looks rather than their character. Men who see the usual women’s inner nature would rather sleep with a nest of tarantulas.

        1476. Ehhhh no.. You haven’t shown anything of the sort. Did you figure out those numbers were specifically for WWI and not WWI yet? 😎

        1477. This was the first insult to my ability to use math, along with ad hominem after you pointed out I missed a 5 and a 3 on my math… Even though I had corrected myself, and then told me it took me more than once to write something as if I was stupid. You don’t get to play coy. Sorry. So did you figure out we were talking about WWI yet? Have you refocused? Wish to take a second shot at it? Most importantly anything of substance to add to the discussion other than minor errors which have been corrected by the original poster before anyone could point them out? No? Thanks👍🏻

        1478. Hence the use of the phrase “compatible with” and not “equal to”. You understand the difference, right?

        1479. “Did you figure out those numbers were specifically for WWI and not WWI yet?”
          I’m not even sure you figured it out yet. LOL!
          Either way, I don’t care. The factual errors I pointed out was related to your inability to conclude that the phrase “1-2%” is clearly an estimate, and your inability to calculate 1% of a whole number in the same message you claimed to “expose your made up numbers as total bullshit”. The irony was too rich to ignore.

        1480. I never said that. All I said throughout this long and pointless debate is that women didnt serve in WW1 in combat roles. Is it a crime to state this fact? Thats like literally all i said. Do whatever you want in the workplace. Peace.

        1482. How is it an “insult to you [sic] ability to use [sic] math” when I point out that you got an easy bit of math right the second time? Isn’t that true?

        1483. Defeated at what? Lol. And I thought that you were trying to say that 70% of women served in non combat roles and the rest were in combat roles, from the way you said that. I’m not arguing against you, women did contribute in non combat roles but not in combat roles (except for very minor instances like the tommies)

        1484. And a woman brought you into the world, which is more important than creating “luxuries”. It’s thanks to women inventors you even have a computer to rant on.

        1485. Not to forget the dishwasher and Hedy Lamarr created the technology which was the foundation for Wi-Fi, Bluetooth amd GPS. And on an equal playing field 50%+ inventions would have been created by women.

        1486. Can we agree on the fact that women didnt contribute in combat roles in WW1 except for minor exceptions, regardless of the fact that they were barred from the army? Because thats the only thing that im saying.
          https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/platform-success/201303/people-want-follow-calm-assertive-leaders
          This shows that due to higher testosterone, men make better leaders than women. You should also search the effects of testosterone on the mind. Men have 10% larger brains and bigger amygdalas than women which makes them better at analytical and modular thinking. The 5 highest IQs in the world are those of men. Einstein, Da Vinci, Hawking etc etc all are a testament to that.

        1487. If men were largely not allowed to go into such fields, nearly everything would have been invented by women. So there goes your point.

        1490. Yeah, you really showed me. I feel completely called out.
          Nobody forbade you from gathering. Yeah, some of your fellow keyboard warriors made empty threats. It’s the internet. If you dare call out tumblerinas for their fake genders, someone is going to threaten you. A “demand” from some dork on the internet simply doesn’t amount to an attempt to make you submit. It’s just hot air.
          You’re whining. Go to you meeting, proclaim yourself a neo-masculinite, or whatever it is you hipster fucknozzles call yourselves, and have fun. No furry or dragonkin or genderfluid goofball is going to show up, and if they do, you can run back to your BMW and lock the doors.

        1491. Earth. Unless you can come up with a logical argument, based on facts, i’m afraid we cant really proceed.

        1492. Exactly, a tiny percentage of exceptionally intelligent men invented and discovered things and apparently all manhood can claim credit for it lol. Funny how they forget that would mean they’d have to claim responsibility for about 90% of violent crime.

        1493. Women are not allowed to go into such fields or what ? I’m not sure your comment make much sense.

        1494. I think we are talking about who invented the most..and still does, not about how many female doctors and lawyers there are, which is completely irrelevant to the discussion.

        1495. Ummm, like my name is Britney, so ummm, like who do you think you’re talking to?? Oh wait squirrel. Selfie selfie selfie.
          Ummm like wait a minute…what were we talking about?

        1496. You were saying men apparently still dominated all field of note, and saving lives is way more important than inventing cool things.

        1499. And like last weekend, I went to this party with my BFF Jessica. And like, I had sex with this guy and woke up the next morning and was like EWWWW…he’s a rapist and I’m a rape survivor. Like OMG!

        1500. Like OMG, if you can’t handle me at my best, then you definitely don’t deserve me at my worste! Like OMG LOL

        1501. I know what it means that should be clear. I don’t know what “fields” or areas women are not allowed to get into though.

        1502. Like OMG, I’m going to this crazy party tonight, all the guys are soooo hot. They all have neck tattoos just like the movies, and like OMG, their like soooo nice. Like OMG they actually care about what I have to say. Awwww look, cute kitty cat. Selfie selfie selfie

        1503. With your ad hominem! That I am of a lesser intellect. And I had corrected myself before you even came about, so tell me mr. Self aware what was the point of pointing it out? To insult so please play coy somewhere else. Also my intellect had already been called into question by that guy previously… So my calling out his made up number was not only correct but justified by me providing actual data. Not just being a snarky twat. Take notes

        1504. Like OMG, I’m going to this crazy party tonight, all the guys are soooo hot. They all have neck tattoos just like the movies, and like OMG, their like soooo nice. Like OMG they actually care about what I have to say. Awwww look, cute kitty cat. Selfie selfie selfie

        1506. What ad hominem? Next time just use a calculator first, sparing yourself the embarrassment of lecturing some poor sod about “exposing his made up numbers as total bullshit” in the exact same post you exposed your inability to calculate 1% of a whole number. Problem solved.

        1508. Like OMG, I’m going to this crazy party tonight, all the guys are soooo hot. They all have neck tattoos just like the movies, and like OMG, their like soooo nice. Like OMG they actually care about what I have to say. Awwww look, cute kitty cat. Selfie selfie selfie

        1509. There are some things you said I agree with but, it is really scary that someone with your attitude and venom works in law enforcement.

        1510. Where I live, it has been years since the garbage man got out of the truck. If it can’t be picked up by the arms of the truck, then it doesn’t go.

        1511. Bullshit, there may be some, been then there are many men who are also very privileged. I am white, and I have worked my ass off. Some of my jobs were hard and back breaking, but I earned my way up to being able to sit at that cushy job

        1512. Right. You’re the one so out of touch with garbos that you don’t know they are often automated these days. Are you sitting behind your nice, cushy desk, complaining about the state of the world and how women have it easy whilst (other) men go out and work hard? Take a look around.

        1513. Yeah, us too. My old roommate years ago had to go and hide rubbish in other peoples bins because he’d put heavy crap in the bin and overfilled it and it couldn’t be picked up by the truck’s lifting device.

        1514. Right. Do you mean the trailer park girls? Do you mean the women who work in meat and fish processing factories? OR maybe you mean the street walkers I see out the window when I drive home late? Or, maybe you mean the girls who work as servers for $3 an hour plus whatever shitty tips they pick up? Or, the ones who empty bedpans in the hospitals.
          I do see that some white men and women are incredibly privileged. I also see that there are 62 people who own as much money as the entire bottom half of the world’s population. (The majority are men, but I am not talking JUST about gender here).
          I see that as manufacturing and even call centre jobs have gone offshore, to make these guys more money, more and more jobs – often mens jobs – have dried up, leading to more and more disenfranchised men. I see that blaming women, and feminists especially, could be one way of fixing the problem, but unlikely to get jobs and prosperity back. I want my kids to get the jobs they deserve, regardless of their gender. So I am interested in politics, not eugenics. I am interested in getting prosperity back by demanding the people who cut corners and cut jobs and who have caused productivity to increase exponentially over the last generation without raising wages fairly – by demanding that these people pay fairer taxes, and stop cutting jobs, and give the people who deserve them the wage rises so they can spend money on their families and put money back into the economy.

        1515. Actually, mate, I came here because I am curious about both sides of the story. I came here because I don’t just listen to what the media, or anyone, tells me, I find out for myself.

        1516. “Uh the first computer programmer was a woman – Ada Lovelace – which any geek can tell you.”
          Wait, are you trolling? Most people who make that kind of statement are feminist trolls who’ve spent too long in women studies classes.
          Here’s a fun question: What is the etymology of “rule of thumb”?

        1517. I corrected myself within seconds. Stay to the topic at hand instead of desperately grasping for something to discredit someone even though they corrected themselves before you decided to involve your self. Pathetic. So were you able to figure out we were taking about WWI and not WWII? Or should I keep point out such a simple glaring mistake? 😂😂😂

        1518. Oh my, fiesty!
          “So were you able to figure out we were taking about WWI and not WWI?”
          Were you able to figure out that WWI is the same thing as WWI?
          UPDATE: You fixed your post (good!) but you actually got it wrong twice. Look a little further down:
          “Did you figure out those numbers were specifically for WWI and not WWI yet?”
          Odds are you got it wrong in other posts too so give them all a good once-over. After all, if you can’t keep track of which war you’re talking about from one post to the next, how can I? Thanks!

        1520. There are physical differences yes, but men are not superior in work. The women obviously got by just fine with the work they had to fill in for, and it wasn’t just light labor. Women can kick ass, not every woman, but it must be acknowledged that women can be physically adept in combat. If they want to serve their country let them; weren’t you just complaining that men had the harder physical tasks throughout history? If that is so, then I don’t see your objection to women joining the ranks of men in combat.

        1522. Men are superior in the physical work that you are talking about since they are physically a lot stronger than women. That is just common sense. When your average women is shorter, slower and physically weaker than your average man then there is going to be a problem sending her to the battlefield. Men have 20 times more testosterone than women and that is a major factor in determening whether you can fight or not. Men are naturally geared for fighting and war through tens of thousands years of evolution from hunting giant mammoths to fighting wars. Women, due to having more estrogen are more geared to be nurturing and caring. Its just science. Women only did the jobs that youre talking about since men were away at war and comprimise had to be made. Also, I never complained about men having the harder physical tasks throughout history, why would I say that, its just logical. The strongest woman in the WORLD got beaten by some average dudes in an armwrestling challenge (its on YouTube). That just goes to show you the mammoth difference in strength between the sexes. There is no misogyny here. It simply would be suicide to send women to the battlefield. Its simply for their own good and the good of the nation.

        1524. So darling you have the right to run commentary on men but the moment men start running commentary on women that’s a no no?
          Where’s the equality in that you flaming hypocrite.

        1525. I didnt know about the doctors and lawyers and I wouldnt say it matters too much. Those are not real stem fields.

        1526. Well then do your research before making ridiculous, unfounded claims that men are apparently still leading in everything. Not doing so makes you seem uneducated, out-of-touch and plain stupid. I’m pretty Medicine is related to Science, and since when does a job have to be related to STEM to have value (I guess being a Professor, President or CEO counts for nothing then). Coming from somebody who probably works in a McDonalds…

        1528. Okay, granting you that for the sake of argument, by the virtue of the American principle, if anyone wants to do a certain job they should have the opportunity to do that whether it is “safe” for them or not. I think it is kind of beautiful that women can have the opportunity to serve the country, as that is an honor, but that is going to opinion and I don’t expect you to agree with me. Besides that, I just want address your talk about estrogen and testosterone. Can it not be that a man is nurturing? Can it not be that a man is not as suited for combat, in some instances? This is not a bad thing. I think of single parents, I don’t know what your view is on family set ups, but even in couples a man should be a caring father as well and “nurture” and support his family. Both parents should be able to do the job of the other, so can it not be granted that both men and women have a little bit of both characteristics, there is a differences, yes, but we work together. Granted more power, why would a woman want to go backwards in time to not having a vote, being viewed on par with the intelligence of handicapped people? Not saying that is what you believe, but it does seem to me that a lot of the comments question the capabilities of a woman’s intelligence. Please tell me your opinion on this. BTW just as a notice, I do not want to be offensive in any way, and I would like the same courtesy. I just want to have a civil discussion over differing viewpoints.

        1529. I work in computer science and math, not in MacDonalds, though I tried it some 15 years ago and it sucks. Let me be more specific then: Men leads (overwhelmingly) in stem fields.

        1530. “If men were largely not allowed to go into such fields, nearly everything would have been invented by women. So there goes your point”
          Perhaps but WHAT would have been invented,. You dont know that. Perhaps we would still be living in cages.
          So my point is going no where.

        1531. When did people live in cages? Yes we don’t know what wouldn’t have been invented but what is sure is that with only male inventors you wouldn’t even have an internet connection to bitch about women over.

        1532. Medicine is a lot harder to get into than Physics, Engineering, Computer Science and other male-led sciences. It also requires emotional intelligence as well as academic ability. Doctors are also more respected in society than engineers, IT staff and research scientists.

        1535. Inventing stuff actually helps people. Unless you don’t consider the internet, cars and airplanes “helpful”.
          I’ve created a few online games and some open source projects. Not much in comparison to Einstein, but it’s still creative.

        1536. Absolute hogwash. At no point in time was there any threat to females.
          Despite information provided that disproves this whole controversy, those such as yourself continue to spread self-righteous hate/anger towards men going out to have a few drinks and enjoy each other’s company.
          You want it both ways: the ability to proclaim victimhood/vulnerabilty, but yet at the same time condone threats, remove free speech, and harass those who aren’t bothering you.
          Today’s women and manginas are hypocrites of a rare level, indeed.

        1537. You need to be qualified in order to do a certain job, especially jobs like the police, firefighters and the millitary. Otherwise you are putting the life of other soldiers and US citizens at risk by taking in women who simply ‘want to serve’. The standards for women in the army have been drastically lowered as compared to the men and given the biological evidence that I have given you above, it would be a folly to send women to the battlefield. About your other point, some men may not be suited for combat or may have nurturing characteristics but we are talking on average not the exceptional cases. There are different roles for the sexes due to the immense biological and neurological differences between them. I do agree with you that men should, and most do, care about and support their families.

        1539. You’re the one who is the the fact checker… Eagerliy stalking my comments.. Waiting..you’ve done nothing but scower my comments and replies for minor errors. You were legitimately talking about a different war and you knew what I was saying to you. You trybtonolaybcoy as if you weren’t trying to insult me. I was jumping from different wars at one point because I was making the pint in general women have contributed to the success of wars when two men told me they had in no way shape or form done anything. I proved this to be false. Oh how the Internet is over run with petty pathetic trolls waiting for even the slightest mistake to hold up as a shining example of inability to debate. It’s sad really. My point remained the same throughout the discussion that women did play a roll in war efforts when I was told they weren’t. in a previous post I even told the guy I was talking to that he could use the figure (that I corrected myself in before you could get a hard on over) could be used as an arguing point. He said hundreds of millions ofnrussians and started throwing out more “estimated” figures to say that no women saw combat. I proved this to be incorrect. The only reason I pointed out your ridiculous mistake was because you tried to make me look stupid after I had corrected myself because I was interested in the accuracy of my figures not just estimations. Did I break that down far enough for you? I was replying to you on my piss breaks at work.. Hurried responses equal mistakes, but you’ve shown that. As far as you following which war I was talking about at any given time it’s not my job to help you play catch up when you’re just coming to troll the party late. 😀 did you want to tell me how 15 is considered a “few” or do you finally have something of substance to add to the original discussion?

        1542. I believe people should be respected cause they’re people, PEOPLE. You say ‘women’ and ‘men’ for things that can’t be generalized. I know women from your country, and ‘a safety net everywhere’ is not what they’ve experienced. I’m from Mexico, and definitely, no safety at all. Too proud about something you didn’t actually do. If we’re including all men into the same cathegory, then you must be proud too of how easily you destroy what you’ve built. I’ll stop this here, cause we can’t actually have a real conversation about this. I don’t think men are the enemy. Wrong opressive and ignorant ideas from a daddy issued person, spread to the wrong minds, are. Have a nice happy life, man.

        1544. Ummm, like OMG. Like my names like Britney. Like OMG, last night I went to this crazy concert, like OMG I got like sooooooo drunk and like hooked up with the drummer. Like OMG, his neck tattoos were like sooooooo hot, just like the movies. LOL! Oh look, cute squirrel. Selfie selfie selfie. #squirellsarecute #squirellslivesmatters
          Like OMG! Ewwww, I heard you guys were all rapists Ewwww, go away rapists! Ewwww
          Like OMG, look the bachelors on. Like OMG, I’d sooooo hook up with him.
          Ewwwww, rapists!!

        1545. And like OMG, I think I’d do really well in the Navy Seals because I watched GI Jane once. Like OMG LOL happy face 🙂

        1546. Technology is not helpful compared to medicine. Why are you kidding yourself that creativity and innovation is the most important thing in the world? Yes it is important obviously but not compared to saving lives, or curing individuals of cancer (or working on curing cancer period – which, by the way, you can thank another female-dominated science area for: health sciences) and other diseases. Not to mention that doctors contributed hugely to both invention and scientific discovery over the centuries. Also I find it disconcerting that you’re allegedly a computer scientist yet have never heard of AdaLovelace aka the *woman* who basically established your apparent line of work.

        1547. Laura, this is so awkward. It’s painfully obvious that you’re having an emotional breakdown. If it’s any consolation, we all make stupid mistakes. Most of us can laugh it off but people with low self-esteem don’t have that luxury. What hurts you the most right now is not my doubts about your intelligence, it’s your own doubts. I’d be happy to talk “substance” with you when you’re emotionally ready for that conversation. In the meantime it’s sad to watch you fall apart like this.

        1549. This is crazy. And your last sentence reads as something out of a bad movie.
          This is what happens when men think women are “utterly worthless”:
          http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3437252/Twelve-men-repeatedly-gang-raped-abused-vulnerable-teenage-schoolgirl-saw-utterly-worthless-jailed-total-140-YEARS.html
          Have you EVER, EVER in your life heard this happen the other way around? Have you ever heard of women gang-raping a boy? That happens everywhere, every day, since the beginning of time. Would you say this says it all about the character of the male gender? And that therefore we can despise them and think of them lesser than a nest or tarantulas? I wouldn’t. But it looks as if you would, if you were coherent and measured both genders by the same standards. But no, you are a fatalist only with the female gender, because you are not one of them. I remind you Hitler, Stalin, Lenin, Fidel Castro, Mussolini, …Kim Jong-Un. All men. Those men have been responsible for millions, and millions, and millions of deaths, injustices and money very, very badly spent. Oh, and of defeats. Does these things make your entire gender despicable? No. Because women aren’t any worse nor better than men, they can be involved in mass atrocities and be as cruel and violent as men. AND they are just as equal in the good qualities category. But you choose to believe your gender is superior and it’s based on nothing but your subjectivity and the only explanation is that maybe it’s because it probably makes you feel better about yourself and your own shortcomings.
          Who are YOU to speak on women character based on your tiny experience in this life? Your aunt was not unique. Thousands of millions of women are your aunt. Every day, and all over the world. I am very sorry you decide to focus your attention on the examples of women you find despicable. I hope from all my heart that life experiences help you see people with more love, and help you see women as people. All the best to you.

        1550. Is it your defense mechanism when you have nothing left to say to accuse a woman of “having an emotional breakdown” or “fall apart” ? Your estimate 😉 Of my emotional state in regards to this thread is purely speculative. If I allowed myself to be saddened by the common troll I would have been off the Internet a long time ago. I just asked if you had anything to add to the conversation I was having before you came along to point out mistakes that didn’t need to be pointed out. I treated you with the same attitude I received from you. Shaking a mistake in your face when it wasn’t necessary. Go troll somewhere else until you can muster the cognitive strength to engage in an actual discussion.. Thanks boo.

        1551. I’ll take you word for it. You kept showing up in my Disqus feed like an unwanted puppy who’d rather be beaten with a stick, than be ignored. It’s weird to watch someone humiliate themselves like that. A few mistakes is fine but every time you posted a reply it was like getting hit in the face with a bucket full of stupid. Good luck!

        1552. Ps: Women, despite having leisure time, have been for centuries discouraged from getting education and doing things with their spare time besides things that were considered “womanly”. When they did, they were considered “manly” and socially ridiculed. This went on for CENTURIES. DESPITE, all this, women everywhere have created some pretty fundamental things that allow you to sit on your ass judging their gender’s worth.
          You say there are no significant women entrepreneurs nor inventors? Who do you owe your computer screen to? Katharine Burr Blodgett. The DNA you so like to compare between men and women? Rosalind Franklin. Beer? Jayne Peyton. Fire escapes? Ana Connelly. Life raft? Maria Beasely. Residential solar heating? Maria Telkes. Medical syringes? You know, the ones used everyday, everywhere for everything in Hospitals? Letitia Geer. The modern electric refrigerator? Florence Parpart. And a lady called Shirley Jackson did scientific research that enabled the invention of the portable fax, touch tone telephone, solar cells, fiber optic cables, and the technology behind caller ID and call waiting.
          Oh, and…
          Wireless transmissions technology? Hedy Lamarr. CCTV? Marie Van Brittan Brown. Central heating? Alice Parker. Kevlar in bulletproof vests? Stephanie Kwolek. THE COMPUTER ALGORYTHM? Ada Lovelace. You know, the first computer programmer. Computer software? Grace Murray Hopper.
          So yeah, Bill Gates and Steve Jobs did a great job, thanks initially to Katharine Burr Blodgett, Hedy Lamarr, Ada Lovelacce and Grace Murray Hopper, who provided them with some very crucial technology they needed to get ANYTHING done, while drinking the beer Jayne Peyton invented.
          So, spit the blue pill male dominated history books and sexists forums made you swallow and get informed.

        1556. In my defense, beating them with a stick made sure they were unconscious when I microwaved them. I have a heart you know!

        1561. People who correct others spelling and grammar especially when the critique comes after a person corrected themselves first, are the ones we should feel the most sorry for. No ability to have a debate or stay on topic, so they criticize, combing over every word and comma. Literally obsessing. I’ll let you know when a debate on disqus warrants having immaculate grammar and spelling until then save your white knuckle grammar check to educators and grad students preparing their dissertations. Super critical people tend to have something they are compensating for. 🤔 And apparently they beat and microwave puppies. Catch you later booboo.

        1563. And, given the number of corrections you required, it looks like I was losing the argument by a very wide margin!

        1564. You’re forgetting a few other corrections …
          You used Russian numbers to calculate a total for WWI while telling the other dude his numbers are made up. In the same post you were unable to move a decimal point two positions to the left without using a calculator. Awkward! You mixed up WWII with WWI (twice!) while asking me if I figured out which war you were talking about, which was cringeworthy. You actually think “1-2%” implies an exact number, and not an estimate. You seem to believe that “compatible with” means “equal to”. And yes, your spelling and grammar is so bad, it will make little children cry.
          So basically, it looks like you’re stuck on stupid, Toots!

        1565. Neither do i. When i get the proof you will realize it too and you will have to leave here. If you don’t i’ll have Roosh boot you off.

        1566. You’re forgetting that you corrected something I had already corrected. like I said grasping desperately to anything to seem superior.. Not being able to follow the conversation or contribute in a meaningful way is a larger mistake and much more embarrassing than a simple case of not double checking my auto-correct during my piss breaks. If I’m stuck on stupid then you’re stuck on me. It’s cute how you obsess over me. Puppy beater.

        1568. “not pathetic, ugly, hateful, childish MISOGYNIST PIGS who want to
          justify their own drooling desires for violence against, and hatred of,
          women.”
          And how do you know for a fact that any of the Men on here fall under this ad hominem umbrella you just shared? The simple answer is: you don’t. You are simply waxing emotionally according to your emo instinctual drive.
          You come on here demonstrating a hatred for Men who disagree with your petty, puerile, petulant pussylanimous point of view and you try to pass it off as legitimate because of your all encompassing solipsism.
          You are a sad pathetic she thing too in love with her own hate to be expected to share discourse that does not devolve into polemics or outright slander.
          I actually feel sorry for you. I have enough peace and love in my soul to weather the storm of hateful bullshit like yours, so i don’t have to worry about self destructing from mania like you do. How many medications do you take to cope with life? 10?

        1569. You’re right, I should ignore you but in my defense, you keep showing up in my Disqus feed like a bad case of Herpes!

        1571. Was just planning on scrolling through to observe…. but was overcome by this tense conversation and simply could not continue.
          I’m not saying this as somebody against your platform or opinions, but as a human being trying to communicate with another human being: Ttiger, I hope someday you are able to open a book on history, law, or biopsychology. Maybe if you understand even a single, short passage you will realize how foolish you sound.
          When all men and women become educated about the reason we are inherently equal, and unite to work together and support one another to advance society in a way that will benefit the whole population (and not just a single gender), the need for gender laws, “feminism”, and men like Roosh will disappear.
          Ms minimi13, please do not feed this person with a response. You cannot have an intelligent debate with him until he is willing to educate himself.

        1572. It’s cute your profile and interactions are private, wouldn’t want anyone stalking you looking for the most minute mistake… Poor troll boy.

        1574. Of course you “stopped” reading. That’s the last bastion of a simp that has nothing but assumptions and sanctimonious nonsense to speak. Thanks for being as typical as the women you empathize with. You’re easy work.

        1576. I stopped reading because your arguments make no sense. And it’s all packed in a teenage tantrum tone. So, I rather keep exchanging ideas with some real “alpha-male” that can share some smart thoughts.

        1578. In times of universal deceit, the sane are institutionalized. I’m also not hopelessly dependent on anti depressants, tranquilizers, opioids or opiates to function.

        1580. As long as you continue to defend a person who recommends “making rape legal,” you’ll continue to be a sad little LOSER, the lot of you. (Others would likely call you much worse names, so you should be grateful I’m merely labeling you a LOSER.)

        1581. So my arguments make no sense simply because YOU say they don’t? Yeah, that’s not the ramblings of an arrogant cunt or anything. Keep fighting the simp fight, sweety.

        1583. No, they make no sense because they follow no logic, you know, as in valid reasoning logic.
          Keep being in the wrong side of History, loser.

        1585. How can it be an assumption when you demonstrated that in your comment? So confused by you…

        1586. I would say I complimented you, and said I would seek out your council again in the future… Jeez… Now you’re just looking for a fight.

        1587. If you actually research these things you will find that they are either untrue or greatly exaggerated.
          Ada Lovelace did not invent the computer algorithm, she translated a man’s work and added an appendix that restated her instructor Babbage’s prior work.
          Grace Hopper invented COBOL, a lousy language, not computer programming.
          Hedy Lamarr and a male associate invented a way to use piano rolls to synchronize channel-switching in controlling torpedoes, which is only loosely related to spread-spectrum techniques, and which does not improve data rate.
          Jayne Peyton is a beer critic and educator, if she invented anything, it’s a particular beer recipe – beer is several thousand years old. K.B. Blodgett invented the application of anti-reflective coatings, not the first such coatings, and not the computer monitor itself.
          Rosalind Franklin did not discover DNA or the structure of DNA or the function of DNA – she just did some of the later x-ray crystallography shots of the crystallized samples, she did not make the crystals, nor was she the first to make x-ray diffraction pictures of crystallized DNA. In fact, she held back the discovery of DNA by some months: “Another letter to Crick, written soon after, reveals Wilkins’s [who shared the Nobel with Watson and Crick]
          exasperation that [his co-worker] Franklin had not discovered the double helix sooner. ‘To think that Rosie had all the 3D data for nine months and wouldn’t
          fit a helix to it and I was taking her word for it that the data was
          anti-helical. Christ,’ Wilkins wrote.”
          Letitia Geer did not invent the hypodermic syringe, that was invented over half a century earlier. She invented an odd one-handed syringe design of a type that never became widely used.
          I’m not going to bother going through every one of the women you list, given all the ones I looked up above were false. That such flimsy heroines are put forward, it must be concluded that these the best that can be advanced, so female contributions to science and technology really are negligible. Certainly men’s contributions have been orders of magnitude greater, so on net women owe men for technological civilization; men do not owe women

        1588. For obvious physiological reasons, a male generally isn’t capable of closely spaced repeat sexual performances, particularly involuntary ones.
          The amount of total harm caused by millions of female schoolteachers indoctrinating and controlling tens of millions of boys each year is far more than a few tens of thousands of (very seldom white) male rapists victimizing a similar number of female victims (and not a few of male victims, too.) Similarly the ~30% of wives who will file for divorce (75% of divorce filings are by women) cause far more aggregate harm than all rapes put together. When women do very harmful things, they get a pass.
          If women were treated equally to men, they would be treated much worse than they are now. If women were to be treated justly, in proportion to their value relative to men, most of them would be treated much worse than they would be under equality. Now they receive preferences not in spite of their inferiority, but because of it. Preferring the worse to the better is perverse and unethical .

        1589. You silly solipsist twit…Roosh wasn’t defending rape, his article was satirical in nature.
          You would know this if not for your emo instinctual nature causing your feelings to embellish things to outlandish proportions.

        1594. What do the contractual concepts of consent and consideration have to do with protection from discrimination?

        1596. Ttiger
          ” I love women” ,”You are not equal to a man sweetheart. ”
          You mean you love them like you love your Playstation. That isn’t love and you have proven Minime13 correct.

        1597. So ironic, in a thread about men canceling a rally because they are scared of women, the men say women can’t fight and would have their asses handed to them.

        1598. They did not cancel it because they were afraid of women, dumb ass, they did because their addresses were being put online and thousands of threats were made against them just because they wanted to gather together and have a good time. And yes, women cant fight well because they are 10x times weaker than men. Its all biology nothing ‘misogynistic’ as you people claim.

        1599. I am very reluctant to engage in any more fruitless conversation with you, but here goes…
          What if we modify that statistic to something feminists would use as ammunition against fathers in everyday discourse?
          80% of rape is conducted by men who were raised by a single father.
          Would this not be a damning indictment of Single Fatherhood?
          Do you not agree this statistic would be quite troubling? And that perhaps this statistic would infer that single fathers are clearly struggling with raising well adjusted young men?
          So how exactly is the fact that 80% of prisoners being raised by single mothers not a damning indictment to single motherhood?

        1600. What page, What actions? You will have to be much more specific than that. I have read many many articles here and I do not see any pro rape words. What I do see is a hateful woman who does not like men to have their own place to discuss issues as they see fit. It is your words, not mine that are irrelevant here fool.

      4. Fuck you, Aristotle. You do not have the permission or the chops to tell me what a virtuous life means.

        1. If you were entirely confident in your views and self worth then my comment would not have provoked a hostile response.

    3. Hi, I just read this comment and you seem very articulate, so I would like to ask you if you could you please tell me what ROK is about? I already know what I know from the media, etc., but you say all I know is false because the media misrepresented you, and so I would sincerely like to know the point of view from someone who sympathizes with the group and that can maybe explain to me what you are really about from your standpoint. You seem to have some clear body of ideals, I just don’t know which they are. From what I am reading here, you guys think media misrepresented you. So, I am guessing no one will explain it better than one of you and I am open to exchange ideas because, even though at the end of the day I also have my own set of ideals, I am not a caveman. I am sincerely interested and curious about your point of view. Why is it that you guys form part of this group and what do you stand for, and how do you feel media misrepresented you?

      1. The media flat out defamed Roosh and was too stupid to realize he was trolling their inquiries…I hope he gets some lawyers on the case.

        4. Yes, easier to paint all of your political opponents with a label and resort to ad hominem than actually thinking or *gasp*, critically analyzing your beliefs.

        1. “First and foremost, there are a diverse range of beliefs on this site – any given 2 articles you select may well disagree with each other. In no way does my point of view represent ROK or the manosphere as a whole, nor do I agree with everything any 1 author/contributor says (for example, there’s a lot Roosh says that I don’t like, but I still respect him). I wouldn’t even call this place a “group” in the sense of the word – “community” is probably a better descriptor.”
          Translation = these guys have no coherent ideology besides a hatred of feminism and a belief that women should be submissive to men.
          “-The belief that women and men are biologically different, and there is nothing morally wrong about acknowledging or acting on that reality. We should look at the world the way it truly is, without the goal of protecting anyone’s feelings.”
          Here are some of the ways that this belief that men and women are “different” are expressed on ROK:

          Women Should Not Be Allowed To Vote

          Young Girls Are Better Than Older Women

          Why Men Are Intellectually Superior To Women

          Women Have No Sense Of Justice


          “The belief that masculinity, dominance, and leadership, both with regards to women and with other men, are worthy traits for men to cultivate, and will lead to a more satisfying life, despite the feminist dogma which has permeated our society and media claiming otherwise.”
          I cannot find any evidence on this site to back up this poster’s claim that this site supports the idea that masculinity, dominance and leadership are worthy traits for women to cultivate. In fact I found several statements to the contrary – that women should in fact be submissive to men, and that this will make them happy .
          “-The belief that feminism is harmful to men, has hurt and isolated us, and is ultimately the enemy. I cannot see how anyone with half a brain could disagree with this:”
          And yet, a huge number of people – almost everyone in fact – seems to disagree. If the whole world seems crazy, maybe its actually you that’s the crazy one?
          “from the rampant shutting down of male intellectual/bonding spaces, to the constant cries for more women policing men’s behavior, to the institutionalization of divorce rape, to the beta husband/”nice guy” image that has been pushed upon men for decades,”
          An example of the idiotic language frequently used by followers of this site’s philosophy. Using the terms “alpha” and “beta” to distinguish between different men is totally scientifically absurd. Not one single credible scientific study uses these terms to classify humans. They were used to classify wolves in the wild, which have a totally different (and far, far simpler) social structure. These guys claim to be guided by logic and science but their whole worldview is based on psuedoscience.
          ” it is clear that there are people with influential positions in society who mean to cause us harm, and have successfully done so in recent times.”
          No one wants to do you harm, we just want you to grow up and open your eyes.
          “-A belief in freedom over authoritarianism. I may be projecting onto the community a little with this one since this is a tenet I personally strongly believe in, and I’ve seen (and criticized) some fashy types on here, but I believe most men here believe one has the right to live his life the way he would like to.”
          Roosh, the founder of this site, has shown no interest in championing liberal ideas over fascist ones. His frequent anti-progressive statements are allowed to pass without question by his followers, despite their protestations that their own beliefs fall right across the political spectrum.

        2. That was a great description on what we discuss here at ROK. Keep up the great writing my friend we need all of it and people who are able to articulate precisely what we do and discuss here at ROK. I like how you said you agree with some articles and not with others. However, you are free to chose what you want to believe and what you don’t.

      5. We want the world to be like Poland in 2005 where men and women had clear roles. A moderate level of patriarch in a strong culture that respects tradition. NOT Saudi Arabia with its run-amok Patriarchy. That’s it. The whole rape piece was in the vein of Swift’s A Modest Proposal, an obvious farce.

        1. It wasn’t Swiftian satire at all . No one with any intellectual understanding of the situation is going to fall for that, stop saying it all the time! It just makes you look like an idiot.
          Swift’s A Modest Proposal was clearly an anti-establishment satire, “punching up” at the callous and indifferent British establishment’s attitude to the Irish poor.
          “How to end rape” is a conservative, pro-establishment, pro-status quo, article arguing against feminist proposals to change society’s perception of rape and sexual assault of women.
          Anyone with a brain can see they have nothing in common. How To End Rape may have been satire but it was still pro-establishment and “punching down” in an attack against progressive, anti status-quo values. That’s why so many people are pissed off that you guys are defending it – not because we all think you are actually all rapists.

        3. Ok, I get the Swift’s thing. I don’t understand why he never stopped being satirical though, Roosh I mean. I imagine it would have been better to your agenda (I mean the real agenda, that things change) if he somewhere along the way had made a valid point, instead of alienating everyone. Because he didn’t get any message through, except for the ones that were already in the joke.

    4. Umm, yeah I don’t think someone who is doxxed for opposing a “pro rape” group will have to worry too much about his job.

    5. The fact that Roosh cancelled the meet ups which he poured his blood and sweat into shows you that he is concerned with the members safety. At the end of the day it’s a noble and compassionate move. The man clearly doesn’t want any of us to get doxxed and then fired, he’s acting like a true leader and I will gladly follow him into battle the next time because I know he has my back.

    6. I hope the exact same for you. Plus s slow, painful death. Your group members threatened rape even though you all pretend not to be pro-rape. Others threatened violence and even war. I hope the FBI starts investigating you as the terrorist organization you are.

      1. You accuse us of terrorism yet you want the people you disagree with to die slowly.
        Keep your gulags to yourself, Stalin.

      2. Wow, how loving and moral of you.
        You don’t suffer from misandry, right psycho?

    9. >That’s the difference between you and me. You will never see me going to a radfem meetup trying to harass attendees.
      In World War I, Germany didn’t stop using chemical weapons because Britain and France took the high road and abstained… Germany stopped using chemical weapons because the price of Britain and France acting *just like Germany* was too high.

    11. Yes, agreed on all points and fuck them! But, you know that the feminine imperative gets what it wants… All we can do is keep shining the light of truth.

    12. Roosh doesn’t know about the furry fandom seem like, because we don’t have
      women. We have bitches! They love be told that everyday.
      Furry Raiders against ROK!

    13. Ohh wait a minute! So some hypocritical bigot such as you is saying that it is Ok if men use force on women to sexually harass & take away their dignity but it is not Ok that a bunch of women use force stop you from doing a so-called “rally”. I dont see any logic or masculinity in such a perverse agenda. Truly your brains are in your pennis! Y’all are going to be BANNED and put behind bars before you can even start such bullshit. What the fuck is the difference between you guys and ISIS or Boko Haram. Y’all barbarians, not kings

    14. “You…attend meetups that were not meant for you, with threats of doxxing…trying to shut us down because you’re scared of a few men having a meetup….You will never see me going to a radfem meetup trying to harass attendees.” Amen. And these are the folks who preach to us about tolerance.

    16. They never will care to leave us alone. They won’t be satisfied until everyone is like them and their miserable existence. :/

    18. What’s up Omegas? I hope you see the irony of a gang of alphas right? True alphas wouldnt belong to a group or gang like this. Face it, you’re omegas. Women are repulsed by you. Eat it, punks.

      1. We never said we were alphas I believe. We’re just ordinary blokes trying to have a beer with our friends. But you even ruined that !!

    20. “…meetups that were not meant for you, with threats of doxxing and even
      violence, trying to shut us down because you’re scared of a few men
      having a meetup…” UTTERLY worthless POS. Media doesn’t need to expose *ssholes like you. You expose yourself. You *will* get you deserve. Come. I dare you. All the bars in my vicinity know your meetup date and when to expect DOOSH-Bags like you. Better bring your billy club.

    21. If that shitstain hadn’t advocated making rape legal, there wouldn’t be nearly this reaction to these meetings.
      If someone wrote online that he thinks all black people should be lynched on site and then organized a big meetings someplace, wouldn’t you expect public opinion to come down on it?

    22. Since the men who believe this garbage are so lazy why bother raping women, just use those new sex robots and leave the challenge of a real woman to real men.

      1. Funny cos I believe most of what is on here, I have a wonderful partner and daughter. I know it will get stuck in your vag Emily to know my woman LOVES
        LOVES
        LOVES
        to be a house wife and let me go work my job and provide a HOME (you know you buy it and live there) of love and support for my girls. She tells me she is GLAD i hold old school values and morals and traditions. She also thinks the feminists today have LOST their way and have ZERO idea of what it means to be a true woman.
        She is a real woman cos she takes care of the house and house chores. I come home to love, respect, and appreciation and I show her the same.
        I haven’t raped her or any other woman
        I do not support abusing women or rape
        I love women and their beauty (as long as there isn’t purple hair cut to look like a man)

    23. Masterfully stated 2Fish. Quite clearly the femnazi collective body stands contra to her Lasness Evelyn Hall and her statement, “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it”.

    24. Fuck you, big boy. I did not misrepresent anything about you assholes. I just read your 59 true statements about women, or whatever the number is. I made fun of you. Every time you pull shit like this, you show yourselves to be sexist cowards who are terrified of women. Too bad for you. Women are AWESOME. As far as your “freedom of association rights” are concerned, nobody is interfering with your freedom of association. You are just too cowardly to exercise them. You don’t have the guts to engage in the intellectual debate in this country, so you shut down your little pencil-dick shindig and retreat to your mother’s basement. “I hope every one of you cowards…” Let me tell you something, Mr. 2Fish. I post under my real name. I told you losers I live in San Antonio. Why don’t you come after me? Who the hell is the flaccid shortdick 2Fish? Who exactly is the coward here?

    25. Real men unite, support each other and bring back real masculinity! Back when being a man was something that was applauded not something you were chastised for.

    26. “You will never see me going to a radfem meetup trying to harass attendees.”
      Maybe it’s time for us to do just that. Take pics, get names, and compile folders on communist enemies.
      And be prepared for street demonstration warfare.
      And, just a random musing but wouldn’t it be “just too bad” if some purported Urban Minority Youths were to start slashing the faces of RadFems in NYC?
      I mean with all the chaos kicking off, the SJWs might just get their comeuppace. Recall when that anti-racist (AKA stirring shit among ignorant racial minorities) activist hipster asshole got stabbed to death on a Muni by a black dude?
      That needs to happen more often to SJWs and these femcunts.
      Minority thugs respect masculine men. Maybe we should use that influence to steer them into lashing out at 3rd Wave femcunts.

    28. why does roosh v have the same address and phone number in the phone
      book as his mom? who is asking the questions here? does roosh v live
      with his mom? seems so.

    30. Take charge of this situation and go to the meet up anyway, or have your own meet up. This was supposed to be decentralized yes? As males we need to be able to create our own privacy as this is always been the responsibility of they that wish to be private. Good practice if you want to get used to operating discretely.

    31. Nobody has misrepresented your position. You have made your pro-rape views very clear. Please stop disingenuously claiming that you are being misrepresented. You are not. You are vile and sick individuals and your views have no place in a civilised society.

  83. Nobody could have predicted the global media onslaught against Roosh. Anglo media (UK. Australia, Canada) showed their true colors. Much was learned.

      1. They are. I am Mediterranean, so Roosh’s way of thinking is as natural as breathing.

  84. Fuck that shit! Meet up anyway! This is not an ROK event nor is it related to anything organized by Roosh. Meet up anyway!

  85. that’s easy: let me explain – Roosh V’s post that legalizing rape will prevent rape is a false dichotomy and an offensive and presumptuous case of begging the question. No one wants to hear his arguments or read his books because what he says is basically stupid, regardless of the terms of his argument.

    1. Amongst the collection of vaguely-intellectual-sounding words of two syllables or more you appear to have thrown into a food processor and posted what came out, did you see the word ‘satire’?

      1. No. The New Zealand public firmly reject this man, they did before the media raised awareness about the post. He has a freedom of speech, but no-one here wants to hear him.
        Roosh V has never stated his aims were “satire”, nor has he promoted himself as a comedian.
        Lastly, you’re suggesting that because of my ignorance, that your claim must be either true or false, which adds nothing of any worth to the discussion. So, lets just leave it at that.

        1. Nothing personal but your attempted depiction of the article was total bullshit. And this not the first time you guys engaged in blatant acts of bullshitting. You have a history of this. The mere fact that you did not know anything about satire does not excuse your basic ignorance of literature. You guys have a long and lengthy history of fucking up. You cannot be taken seriously anymore. Nothing personal.
          I’ve been down this road with you guys so many times, and in each of those times your fuckups always manifested. The worst part of all this is that you refuse to admit your fuckups which always result in catastrophes. The list of such goes back a very long time. It’s amazing how you can post here as a representative of a set of ideas that has been discredited. I’m not sure if your are obtuse or suffering from a case of cognitive dissonance.
          At any rate, you know that you are peddling bullshit. The game is over. We’ve seen the results of your faux activism and in all cases, the results have been a total disaster.

        2. I’ll state the facts here:
          Roosh V says in his blog post that he is against rape.
          Secondly, Roosh V says that he is sick of being told by the govt that rape is forbidden.
          Lastly, Roosh V says that legalized rape will “help”, because women will “know better”.
          I will explain this fully to you, as you are an apologist for an offensive attitude:
          According to this blog post, if someone has been a victim of verbal abuse, including physical threats or sexual assault then they have no legal agency, if done on privately owned property.
          What Roosh V is saying, in effect, is that people should be allowed methods denial, victim blaming, or total indemnity for sexual assault.
          The New Zealand public, media, and political figures have rejected Roosh V on these grounds.
          Lastly, I’m sorry but he’s just not a very successful author or public speaker, which does little to help his reputation to date, although that’s a side issue.
          Thanks for reading this.

        3. You ought to check in back on social media. Roosh has said several times his aim was satire. Was Jonathan Swift a comedian?

        4. When I look at his information via Youtube, Wikipedia or his personal website, he is described as a “pick up artist”, “neo-masculunist” or defender of traditional gender roles. It doesn’t say clearly that he’s a comedian so, sorry, you are wrong in this instance.

  86. i’m confused, not sure what this entire movement was about. all i heard was rape. Someone took it out of context probably. oh well. stay safe, apparently people are pissed.

    1. The alleged “pro rape” piece was satire very clearly modeled on Thomas Swift’s “A Modest Proposal”, about eating babies, (which nobody was actually going to do, either).
      People who though it was a serious proposition either (a) do not understand satire, and/or (b) were misreading the intent on purpose to serve their own agendas.
      EDIT: Roosh explained that his piece was not about *actually* legalizing rape at the time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gxjc37i0JOc&t=3m10s

  87. The fake rape charge is the nuclear button for femtards.
    Does this mean femtards are running out of ways to mobilize their base? UVA… ROK… who’s next?

      1. This is what is so amazing. One guy writes a SATIRICAL article about rape, the world explodes. Migrants gather by the thousands and rape women all over Europe – feminists defend them.

  88. In the grand scheme of things, doubling our reader base, thanks to all the free publicity from the feminists, is far more beneficial to the neomasculinity movement in the long run than whether a few of us got together for beers this weekend or not. There’s plenty of other opportunities for that, anyway.

  89. We should meet up anyway. The places are set already. The only difference is that the meet ups are no longer sanctioned by ROK and Roosh as per this announcement. There is nothing stopping anyone from following through with this.

  90. Here’s a cherry-picked segment from a new “stuff” article in New Zealand
    “Valizadeh established the Return of Kings website in 2012 and has more than 18,000 Facebook likes and publishes about 15 articles a month.”
    Actually it’s less than 13,000 likes and it’s closer in the direction of 100 articles a month, or roughly between 3 or 4 a day. Gawd, they don’t get ANYTHING right.

  91. People that come together and form groups, such as this one, are useless, and weak individuals. You’re all a bunch of faggots, get over yourselves.

        2. So are you going to cry and jack your dick off into your hair or what? What are you going to do about someone on the Internet being mean to you? Probably nothing. Or maybe you’ll leave another comment. You’re such a big badass I’m blushing suck a dick and eat your grandfathers ass you fat fuck

        4. Uh oh sounds like someone managed to pass their English 1301 class!!!!!!!! A true scholar!!!!!

  92. I really don’t think they would have done anything. Talking about Beta-males and women after all.

    1. Even if you are ridiculing the subject matter, it’s true that nothing would have happened. And trust me, there would have been NO talk of “rape strategies” or whatever B.S. the mainstream media is spewing

      1. I’m not, just saying I’m not worried about a bunch of SJW attempting “violence” toward me. I don’t usually make comments, but I recently found this site and was looking forward to meeting other like-minded people in my area.

        2. Keep your eyes peeled for your local host putting up his private email to go ahead with a non-sanctioned meetup.
          Be sure to vet HIM, before you message him so he can vet you

        3. How do I even know who he is? I literally found this website just before the first of the year. The only reason I made an account is because of the protocol that was set in place just before the meeting was canceled and I wouldn’t have met any of it. I’m posting now just in case the protocol happens again so I can have documentation of being an active member to the cause.

        4. You may know him by the fruits of his comment history. But, if you have even a HINT of doubt? Don’t message and give yourself away.
          If your account is too new, then he might now have connected with you anyway. Just participate on the site, apply practical lessons to your life, be a strongerman, and be ready when a future meetup happens.

        5. OKay thanks for the advice. I saw that there’s a forum too, but I guess you can only sign up on the first of the month. Thanks again. I will definitely try to be an active member from here on out.

  95. Damn, your boy Roosh is a class-A wuss. Good thing you can still come out to the meetups without your Daddy figure’s blessing. Gonna love seeing how many of you lose your teeth. You’re all gonna be famous!

    2. Another proponent of violence against men, and laughing about it. What fine upstanding human beings

        1. Why do you wish violence upon Men who just have a few gripes about modern society and want to get together for a peaceful and sociable happy hour?

        2. I don’t. I *do* wish violence against people who look upon women the way that you do.

        3. We don’t look on women that way. you have been bamboozled by the mainstream media who have cherry-picked one article that Roosh wrote over a year ago which is a SATIRE piece

        5. Hubert, I’ve been reading this site off and on for a year. Yeah, that piece was incredibly clumsy satire, written by a fool. Roosh would never come out and say, directly, that he supports rape on private property. But his consistently misogynist retrograde screeching shows zero respect for his fellow human beings. In ten years he’ll be writing a tell-all about how he took all of you for suckers and trolled the universe.

        6. So why do you come back and keep reading it, thus giving Roosh page views and ad revenue? Look in the mirror and the problem is right there!

        7. Not totally sure what problem you’re referring to. The ten times I look at this cesspool today will be enough to hold me over for another year, and will net him around 3/10ths of a cent.

        9. Not inferior, just different. We believe women are more nurturing and men are more logical. Civilization functions better when women focus on mothering and fostering community. All traditional civilizations know this, and most civilizations in the world operate on this same principal now. Your idea of superior and inferior is based essentially on a materialistic worldview in which motherhood in oppressive and women can liberate themselves with money and a job.

    3. Tough guy! Are you trying to impress your 400 pounds girlfriend with your internet warrior skills?

      1. I’m making no personal threats, just saying watching, say, the Toronto Boxing Women pound a couple of you into paste would elicit some deep yocks.

  96. Is there a Guiness Book of World Records for the feat of “trolling”? Because Roosh just trolled an entire continent. (Australia)

    1. Continent? There is massive news reporting on THREE continents. Possibly the greatest trolling in history, not to mention what this will do for the reader base.

      1. Hehe it was insane fun watching the show you gave us. I was wondering if you’ve managed to get any sleep in the last 72 hours though

      2. It was rather painful for those of us in the middle though. My ears are still ringing from the screeching of the femtards.

  97. Wow, I find that disappointing even though I wouldn’t have been able to go because I’m in Japan.
    Going back to Montreal in April, so hopefully this will happen in the future and I’ll be able to attend!
    Everyone from ROK, keep up the good work and continue fighting!

        1. The Deep South meetups have had no major backlash (except Austin of course). A wakeup call indeed…
          Oh and Tampa doesn’t count, the southern half of Florida is a blue-state extension of New York

        1. Listen to me… you are a nobody. You had no effect upon me. The reason why you had no effect is your foolishness. Deal with it.

        4. It seems that the only one who is crying is you, this is why you continue to respond to me. Nice job!

        7. Cry about it pussy im playing the worlds smallest violin over here for your gay fatass

        8. I’m still meeting up but without the sanction of ROK. And by the way, why you so mad? LOL

        12. I feel sorry for anyone who does not feel “strongly” about anything. You have my pity.

        13. Especially when it comes to something like this.. A group of men who are obviously scared enough of women to attempt to meet up to discuss how masculine they are… HOW FUCKIN GAY CAN YOU BE DUDE

        14. Ah, you could not resist the urge to comment in all capital letters. Keep up the good work!

        15. I feel strongly about a lot of things, but I’m not going to create a group with anyone. Because I’m a fucking grown ass man, doing grown ass things. Unlike you ass clowns crying about banging each others butts and how scary girls are fuck you and the horse you rode in on al from gay shore

        16. If you are a grown ass man then why are you here? A grown man is a man unto himself. It appears that your are here seeking validation and nothing more. Your use of epithets and insults suggest this. You seem more concerned with what people think of you rather than what you think of yourself. Just saying.

        18. Long time lurker first time poster. I know which of you id rather bed, and its not him. Poor little boy just doesnt know any better.

  104. This is a travesty. When citizenry can’t meet to discuss their viewpoint in a civilized way, how free are we really? I was already overly skeptical of the MSM as sites like ROK, rooshv, rationalmale, etc opened my eyes to reality. Hearing a friend of mine repeat the lies about Australia has shown me how far they’ll go.

    1. Freedom is slavery. We all must apparently conform to a singular belief, or else it’ll be the end of society as we know it, apparently.

  106. You douche fucks don’t have better things to do? Making money maybe? Porn? Maybe pickup cooking as a hobby? Clean your houses? Do anything

  107. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
    You pathetic loser, did you think there are people who follow you with the balls to publically show their faces? Your little troll army of dimwitted shit heels are by their nature weak and feeble and insecure twerps just like you and just like anyone who gives a shit about you in any other context besides dismissal or hate. Read this blog post – ( http://thetrendingamerican.blogspot.com/2016/02/there-is-troll-army-dying-to-legalize.html ) – the author refers to you as Dumpy Fuckface the entire article, it’s gone viral and it’s hilarious how much the guy nails your brand of patheticness.

  108. An unfortunate setback, but the ‘narrative’ preventing men from networking and working together on neomasculinity will only prolong the inevitable. Nature cannot be beat with something as insidious and fake as egalitarianism and equalist bullshit.These meetings can be done Roosh. Just don’t do it via internet next time. Use the media against them, everything must be word of mouth or phone conversation only. Notes on the fridge, letters in the mail, etc. No texts. Just like in the old days, before technology and big daddy gubment interfered with all of our lives. It will be much easier to screen people to come and reach out to newcomers that way.

  109. I feel let down by Roosh.
    While I respect his choice not to participate with the media (who clearly cannot be trusted), I’m very disappointed he didn’t make a statement or rebuttal, in his own domain, in defense of the attacks on the ROK community. I could have really used something concrete to direct friends and family to during the media frenzy and a golden opportunity has been missed to inform and educate people who didn’t buy into the “pro rape” nonsense.

      1. There’s a forum? I’m new to the site. I found it just before the first of the year. Can you help me out?

      2. I was on the verge of committing to this cause. In light of recent events, I don’t blame you for doubting my authenticity. Can you blame me for wanting to post anonymously?

  110. The meetups may be officially canceled and the list of locations scrubbed, but I’m still going to the location nearest me when the meetup was scheduled to start. If anyone else is there I’m sure we’ll have a great time laughing about this.

  111. I AM SHOCKED THAT YOU FUCKING IDIOTS THINK RAPE IN ANY FORM IS LOGICAL AND SHOULD BE LEGAL HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      1. I think you’re referencing the shit in the UK? I’m from the US so I honestly have no idea. Rape should be met with intolerable punishment. If you’re an adult and you sincerely think that rape should be allowed or legal I feel that it is the job of the greater good to rid you of the life you take for granted.
        Now as for all of this meeting stuff and what not, I would love to hear someone elaborate on what all of you so called “men” are trying to change or stand up for? What I read thus far was to make rape legal on private property, is that not the point of all of this? Why would such an idea even exist to an adult with a brain?
        I’ve read a few of these long posts and it seems like you people are making the smallest detail into some sort of idealistic battle. What the fuck is wrong with common law? Would you be down for me to fuck your ass in my basement legally?

        1. All you did was buy into the mainstream press agenda. Well done. If you can’t see that the article was complete hyperbole, then you are a moron or just being very disingenuous. As for your basement, I would never be down there of my own free will – I’m smarter than that. Maybe that’s the point of the meet-up, encouraging people to think for themselves. Try it sometime.

  112. Masculinity: Hey everyone let’s have a worldwide meetup to celebrate our masculinity oh wait it’s too dangerous never mind.

    1. Feminists: Let’s get a bunch of white knight manginas like Michael Aronson to do our dirty work for us.

        1. Obviously you haven’t done anything, but it would have been male lap dogs of Feminism who would have been the only people which would put any meetup groups in danger. They have been the ONLY people threatening violence in this whole debacle

        4. You would have done Nothing, except try and Prove your Quality to your Feminist Master, which would have been Unsuccessful.

        5. I would have done nothing, correct, because I never had any intention of attending.

  113. BOO. Shall we die on our knees or live on our feet boys? I submit we push forward with the meetup and endure whatever spectacular displays of idiocy we may endure. If anyone if Denver still wants to meet I say lets. Same time, same place.
    “Fear is an interest paid on a debt you may not owe”.

    1. I’m the Denver host. The time and place were already outdated. Our anonymity in the tribe is an asset worth preserving, so I’m not looking for a fight, but I’m still down to meetup and have a beer.
      email me: [email protected] and we can talk.

        1. Yes he is.
          That’s why I used a burner email that does not contain any real information.
          I’m no chump.

  116. See y’all later. You’ll try again, but Daddy will cancel at the last moment again.

  117. Let me be the first to congratulate Roosh on a great job over the last few days. All hail KING Roosh…
    Darius inscriptiom 500bc
    “A great god is Ahuramazda, who created this earth, who created yonder sky, who created man, who created happiness for man, who made Darius king, one king of many, one lord of many.
    I am Darius the great king,
    king of kings, (return of kings)
    king of countries containing all kinds of men, king in this great earth far and wide,
    son of Hystaspes, an Achaemenid,
    a Persian, son of a Persian,
    an Aryan, having Aryan lineage.

  118. Apparently, mass-rape by Muslim rapefugees is tacitly approved of by these SJWs, while a satirical essay written in a free country raises their hysteria to nuclear level.
    If this doesn’t prove that LibFems are mentally unstable, I don’t know what else you need.

    1. Brilliant comment. Why wasn’t this the headline topic on the website during the past few days?

  119. You guys, wouldn’t it be pretty funny if this was just a plan to make the media report “ROK meetings cancelled due to threats of violence”, and then Roosh turns around and says “ah, you know what, guys, the meeting will take place after all, i was just messing with ya’ll!”

  120. yo yo hold up man hold up… ROOSH V you joke! 😀
    I looked you up and check this out.
    if your logic and reason was described with practical math, it would look like this, and your grade two teacher would flunk your punkass again
    6 + 9 = 0
    you loser!! aahahahahahah!!!!!!
    check it out, take your keyboard with both hands, and throw it out.. and take your thesaurus and make a cheeseburger out of it.
    then, take all those books you wrote, put ’em in a backpack, and go live in a cave.. call it a man cave, bro. just go..

    1. i dropped out in 10th to take care of my business and I know this kid is a clown.. come now people

  121. This is disgusting. I really don’t mind it if people have meet-ups. I am supportive of gay marriage/rights, but I would have no problem if someone who is against gay rights/marriage peacefully protests against it. It is their opinion and that is that. But legalizing rape? Are you serious? “Rape is a type of sexual assault usually involving sexual intercourse or other forms of sexual penetration perpetrated against a person without that person’s consent.” I don’t know how anyone thinks this is a good thing, but I believe it is disgusting. I believe that this whole meet-up thing is disgusting. I really wouldn’t feel safe walking alone at any time of day, any time of week, if rape was legalized. I’m sure other females out there feel the same.

    1. You have been bamboozled by the media!! The Rape article was SATIRE! Swallow the red pill and see the light.

        1. Yes! I think you have hope! The mainstream media has proven that they cannot be trusted by purposefully using straw man and outright lies to turn public opinion against this site.
          And we are not “mens rights activists” or any other lies they spew. That’s avoiceformen.com they are looking for

        2. Hardly a joke, it was satire written to provoke thought. The lies you’ve been fed by the media were written to attract you.

        3. Yes, if you’ve ever read Jonathan Swift’s “A Modest Proposal”, this was in the same vein as far as satire goes.
          The only reason that this became an issue is because SJW’s cannot tolerate the existence of any groups or individuals that are able to question the things that they say or do. Because of this, they created this “controversy.”

      2. Satire is the go to terminology anyone too feeble to back up their stance uses upon realization that they A)said something ridiculous, callous or dumb and B)when they get called out by nearly anyone with a moral compass and some common sense. He didn’t say a thing out of satiric means, he was dead serious but because he, like the lot you, is a weak, scared and insecure fool intimidated by anything that doesn’t fit in his small, tiny box, he goes and proclaims it satire. It’s a form of backing out, same as a dog showing his belly and covering his balls. And you shallow idiots eat it up and use it as a defenese mechanism without probably understanding what the word even means. Honestly the majority of the supporters here have a intensely vague grasp on grammar or the language in general so I’m not surprised you so eagerly shout “Satire” – it’s just you being you…a sad, troll army of evolutionary regressives without a real agenda, just spoon fed ideas. Hahaha, I think it is hilarious that your biggest show of masculinity was too cancel your neomasculine secret meetups. Here’s a word I know you don’t understand either: irony. Lot of dip shits here, lot of them…

  124. For the past few days I’ve wondered if this wasent just a big ploy to test the waters for an actual meet up for a later date. Or perhaps, this was just a gambit to bring more publicity to the site. Either way one can’t help but to look at Roosh as a world leader in a sense. Which one of us could stir controversy all over the world? I would like there to be a real meet up in the future however.

  125. Boy you guys really are a bunch of pussies. All talk and no play.
    Probably better that way anyway; your words are rancid enough without actions to back them up.

    1. Scott,
      I’m sorry you feel the need for such language. What makes you think I want deal with protestors who “dislike” me?
      Hey, anyway, have a good night. I have no animosity towards you.

        1. ABW, I’ve never seen anything resembling “pro-rape” on this site. Please, show me where “rape” is promoted. I’d be persuaded to avoid a meet-up with evidence of “pro-rape” talk, not by name calling.

        2. in these guys defense i don’t think they are rapists im sure a couple might be but for the whole they are just butt hurt cause women wont cook for them or sleep with them and many women have better jobs than them and they can’t deal with it so they bitch about it together on the net so they can feel better and try to act all high and mighty saying its men empowerment but at the same time calling African males orcs and other bias degrading comments in short its a site for losers basically

        3. If that’s the case why is the whole world going Apeshit over a bunch of “losers” getting together for beer?

        4. because you share very backward views about women belonging in kitchens but they are mainly going apeshit cause they think you all want to legalize rape which i dont believe you do but that doesn’t change the fact your a bunch of men sitting on the net bitching about women its terribly depressing just thinking about it but if your genuinely here to make friends and have a beer why not just go too the pub? why does it have to be with a bunch of sexist/racist dickheads? but yeah you guys are coping far too much backlash for the rape thing but yeah if you believe women belong in kitchens you should probably just slit them wrists now because those days are long gone and look at humanity’s history humans never learn we repeat the same mistakes over and over women or men it doesnt matter im just saying you all should focus on yourselves and do some real thinking about what makes you, claiming to be alpha’s thinking for yourselves when you all seem to be spouting the same crap like you have been brainwashed I believe all creatures are equal therefore sexism and racism aren’t cool in my book for instance pretend you have a couple little angels we are talking your own flesh and blood humans with dreams and aspirations same as you could you tell her she is a lesser being and that she will only ever cook and wait on a man…. fuck no you can be princess of the world and the other can be queen of the moon for all i care cause if you care about anything your answer should be the same yes feminism sucks and some of the double standards are harsh but there is reason for that and as a man you need to suck it up cause some of those standards keep little girls/boys safe thats the thing people of this site have obviously been hurt by women one way or another but to be a part of this site means you only care about yourself and have no real love in your hearts

    2. It’s within your free speech rights to do that, as long as you were not intending to break laws or incite violence. Oh, but you still could not join based on your orientation. A free society ALSO has the right to discriminate in private spheres, as well as free speech

      1. Your community didn’t have the right to dox and harass women who opposed you, but you did anyway. No one is going to show you respect if you don’t earn it.

  127. Wow. Just wow. I knew you straight boys were a mass of insecurities but I never realized just how bad it was.
    “911 What is your emergency?”

    1. If we’re going that route, then at least we don’t go out like you gays do when you guys do your gay pride parade perversions…..enough strawmanning for today.

  128. I’ve been following this site on and off for a couple of years, and only started REALLY reading everything here roughly 7 months ago, specifically due to the variety and depth of content.
    As for everything that’s taken place these past couple of weeks, I’d say this was a massive win for Roosh/ROK (even though the meetups were cancelled), particularly for three reasons.
    1. Publicity shot through the roof due to this.
    2. The left and their enablers identified and readily exposed themselves as psychotic children on social media, apparently forgetting that our side can be just as savvy, if not more so than them.
    3. Read Sun-Tzu and you’ll understand that the way to win isn’t always by kicking down the front door, rhetorically speaking.

    1. Riight. It became like guys in jerry boats a munite away from being mowed down, and then at the last munite, the generals blew the time out whistle and called off the barrel shoot. So now we troopers are all in uniform and beefed up and we’ve picked up probably millions through the sheer magnetism of THE GREAT MANBALL!! And the ‘generals’ send us home with pay now. We’re all wound up and ready to rumble the sidewalks, preach the street corners, hang and impart red pill wisdom with bro’s, whatever floats.

  129. It’s only a temporary delay. The energy is busting out everywhere. It will happen, maybe in another form, but it is coming. The ball is rolling and momentum is increasing.
    Lay on Macduff and damned be him who first cries hold, enough.

  130. You woman-hating dooshes can spend the night in mommy’s basement- where you usually are on Saturday nights- while the rest of normally socialized couples enjoy one anothers’ company. Ha ha ha ha ha!

    2. Actually, reading the articles and comments, these men like women. You know, proper women. Who dont act like men-wannabes. Who dont swear , who take care of thrmselves. These guys truly appreciate a feminine . Sadly there arent many under 50 these days, those that are are usually targeted by feminists who try and convert them to the sisterhood, “for their own good”. Heaven forbid a free thinking woman actually wants to be a stay at home mum, wear skirts and dresses. I mean how archaic of her to make those choices for herself.

  131. If you’ve ever skimmed the comments on Jezebel or HuffPo, you understand what kind of insanity we’re up against. These “ladies” (and I use the term most generously) are incredibly vulgar, hostile, and vitriolic. What’s more, they have regularly attacked anyone who criticized rape fantasies as a misogynist or they accuse them of “Kink-Shaming”. No, seriously. Their hypocrisy and lack of moral clarity is stunning.

    1. you called africans orcs…? stfu how can you call anybody vulgar you racist sexist piece of shit

  132. http://thetrendingamerican.blogspot.com/2016/02/there-is-troll-army-dying-to-legalize.html
    This best sums up the lot of you fools who follow this fucktard. And my friends that is what you are…followers. Plain and simple. Read what people say about you all. That is just ONE popular article. The internet is making it rain shame on you whack jobs. The red pill and the fucking oxen or whatever, talking about war chests and shit…you all sound like the worst example of Ed Hardy and leather duster wearing douche bags I SWEAR.

    1. You do swear…a lot. Haven’t you read yesterdays article on SJW profanity? Your just being a living example

      1. I am not sure why you think I would have read any article from this website outside of the one that circulated social media. Remember…I think you guys are pathethic, so why on God’s green Earth would I recall something your Founder taught YOU? That’s your job as a minion, isn’t it?

      1. If by echo chamber you are referring to the blog I linked I gotta be honest – living within that thing would be fantastically uncomfortable as I am not binary, sir. A more straight forward answer is that I happen to agree on a moral standard with what is being said in the link versus the odd and demented view you all take. But hey, to each his own. I’ll let you own this shit if that is youe will. Enjoy.

        1. The odd and demented view we ALL take? You just exposed yourself as an airhead without any concrete argument or position.

        2. Hey man, if you don’t see this group of RotK followers as singular in their DEMENTED and ODD views than that is cool buddy. I’ve said my peace, I don’t need to get into some keyboard oriented pissing contest. I guess I fee; bad for a group of guys who proclaim themselves neomasculine, whatever that babble means, and they are the furthest from the classic definition of masculinity. I mean, you follow a guy with a DJ nickname who writes about taking advantage of women with eating disorders. I’m willing to acknowledge YOU ALL are probably misguided by your own insecurties. Makes you human perhaps. Go in peace man. Try not to beat or rape or degrade or put down any women as you do. That is all.

    3. “Fucktard” shames people living with cognitive disabiity and perpetuates harmful stereotypes.

  133. The typical rap music lyrics in the top forty these days take a far harsher tone toward women than anything I’ve ever seen written on this site. And some of the lyrics do threaten rape.
    I am absolutely certain that not one single feminist or liberal has ever protested a rap concert because of this.

    1. Dude, your comments are really resonating with me, but I hate to see an intelligent person wasting their energy. Leave this troll infested mess of a discussion and write an article for ROK already!

  134. Awe…. 🙁 🙁 🙁 and I got all prepared to meet up with all of you and you cancel on me. Do you know how long it took me to hand load 20 mags.

        2. Well I guess you should only be scared if your considering rape which I can legally shoot to kill any one a tempting it here in Texas might want to try the more liberal states

        3. No one mentioned meeting for the purpose of raping anyone. You are using a false premise to justify your potential course of action. You are literally writing fiction.

        4. Dont argue with internet tough guys, all these ppl that make internet threats are just posing, in person he will be scared shitless, he thinks he has the balls to pull a gun to a group of unarmed guys just talking.

        4. I’m prepare to defend the citizens of the United stated from all enemies foreign and domestic

        5. Your exact words:
          “Awe…. 🙁 🙁 🙁 and I got all prepared to meet up with all of you and you cancel on me. Do you know how long it took me to hand load 20 mags.”

        6. How do I know how many men are gonna show up with the planning of how to legalize rape and possible solutions on how to get away with it now, rather have too much and not need it than need it and not have it

        7. You Said you “Got all prepared to Meet up with all of You” ” Do you know how long it took me to hand Load 20 mags”
          What does that Mean?

        8. It means what ever you want it to mean, you can show up saturday and I could show you in person.

        10. You’re totally unraveling now, son. You made a mass shooting threat against a group that wanted to assemble peacefully and privately. That’s disturbing. And illegal.

        17. Again, this is enough to get you arrested. You aren’t very smart. Or you’re drunk. Check yo self.

        20. Not my meetings, and they absolutely aren’t a conspiracy to commit a felony. You’re free to get that answer from the police, though, when they knock on your door.

        22. A moment ago you were talking Tough ” I’m prepared to die for my beliefs are you?” but now you can’t give me a Straight answer about what your original Post Really Meant, not feeling so Tough anymore?

        24. I have never spoke out or wished harm on any law abiding citizen nor will I harm any law abiding citizen

        25. No I plan to peacefully open carry my firearm ready to defend any citizen from any current felony including rape

    2. That could seriously be considered a threat, you may have just broken the law and be in more than a bit of trouble.

      1. No see a threat is me telling you of a harmful action I plan on taking against you that I have never said or did you can take my freedom of speech comment however you want to

        2. I have no desire to take anyone’s freedom away, but that’s quite an insinuation and I have seen police show up at people’s doors for far less. This will more than likely be reported, and when they show up, you can tell the police about your freedoms. Best of luck to you.

        3. After re-reading your post you clearly state that you were planning to show up at this event and that you had hand loaded 20 mags. There is not much to misinterpret about your intentions.

        5. Actually, you’re 100% wrong on this one. The only way if he can be arrested for something he says online is if he poses a “clear and present danger” to others. This is, of course assuming he’s from the USA of course.
          Making a sarcastic comment about hand loading 20 mags is nowhere near enough for him to get arrested for it.
          That said, if you want to discuss speech that actually DOES pose a more plausible threat to individuals, go take a look at the comments posted on social media about Roosh and ROK. Said comments can get pretty specific and graphic at times.

        1. Aw, you poor thing.
          The ignorant never realize how ignorant they are. They ought to trust those who are older and wiser, but they never do. That’s why they’re ignorant.

    3. Don’t worry, we’re gonna get you, one way or another… And we will make you regret having been born with a vagina. We’re coming for you, woman!!!

    4. Cologne and Rotherham have some interesting meetups too. I urge you continue the good fight against those who have committed rape.

      1. Yeah those were sickening, too. All of it is. This groups views toward not only women but gay and transgender men is sickening. The rapes that happened in Cologne and Rotherham are sickening. There’s so much wrong with all of it.

        2. Don’t just sit there. Organise a counter-protest like those for Glasgow and Sydney against ROK. Take your message to the streets of Rotherham and Cologne. I’m sure a feminist protest or at least a few articles will soon appear against those very real rapes.

        3. I’m not saying they weren’t. I feel like any decent person would be enraged, but I’m not even glad the meetings got cancelled because I think this site promotes legal rape because I’m still a little on the fence about whether or not that was a satirical article.

        5. Transgender “MEN”?! Your sickening Cis-Priviledge just oozes out of your comment.

        6. It was a deliberately provocative satirical article meant to spark conversation and debate. Roosh has gone on the record countless times in interviews saying that he is not pro-rape. Essentially, a misguided lynch mob stopped a group from assembling peacefully and privately.
          That’s very, very sad.

        7. And your ignorance oozes out of yours!!! THIS IS 2016 YOUR BACKWARDS WAY OF THINKING HAS NO ROOM HERE.

        9. How to “STOP” Rape? Hmmm… doesn’t sound like a very effective title for promoting rape.

        11. Doesn’t your own citation of the article’s subject actually suggest to you the satire it was?

        12. I don’t think they were totally misguided. This website promote prejudice against a lot of different people groups, and while being a homophobic, woman hater is not illegal, it is wrong. And the people stood up for what they believe in and stopped these heinous meetups. He didn’t have to cancel these meet ups. No one forced it.

        13. Yes, and I acknowledged that it was very satirical, but as someone who is very familiar with literary works there was still that small hint of truth that I was working out on my own.

        14. Whoa whoa slow down! So now he wants to stop rape? Now that’s something I’m on board with.

        15. I’m not sure why you’re being rude, I’m having a totally civil and nice conversation. If you’re going to have this attitude you can just see yourself to the door.

        16. So, without getting into debating you on your accusations against the people who wanted to meet: If people have views you disagree with, they should not be allowed to assemble in private? And the threats of violence against them are appropriate? And it’s ok for the media to print lies as truth?

        19. No. That’s not what I said at all. No one forced him to cancel these meetups, and threats against anyone are wrong. I do not agree with the threats made toward anyone. No one forced these meetups to be cancelled.

        21. Me? You’ve got me all wrong. Not being rude. I was told by the media and you that he promotes rape. But now I see he is trying to stop rape. You can understand my confusion.

        22. This is what you wrote:
          “the people stood up for what they believe in and stopped these heinous meetups”
          You support the fact that these meetings were stopped. And what the people “stood up” for was a lie.

        23. Can you tell me where I said that people shouldn’t be allowed to meet in private and have a different opinion and have their freedom of speech taken away? You can’t because I didn’t. I clearly said that while being a woman hating homophobic is not illegal, it is wrong. I am not trying to impose on anyone’s rights.

        25. “and while being a homophobic, woman hater is not illegal, it is wrong” This doesn’t make sense. Its your subjektive opinion and is not a fact.

        26. You wrote:
          “the people stood up for what they believe in and stopped these heinous meetups”
          The operative word is “Stopped” and you support that. And even if your accusations were true, the mob was out to stop a “pro-rape” group–which doesn’t exist. The mob was whipped up by lies.

        27. I never said he was promoting rape. Not once did I ever say that. I openly stated that the article was satirical.

        29. So being a woman hater is right? Hating people because of something they can’t control. I cant control being born a woman, why is that grounds for someone to think lesser of me?

        30. Yes, but I was saying that I’m not glad the meetups got cancelled because I think that. I was saying that’s not the reason I’m glad the meetups got cancelled. Because I don’t think that.

        31. No, your opinion that someone is a “woman hater” is subjective, and you can’t stop people from assembling because you disagree with their beliefs–and more importantly, you should not WANT to.

        32. Protip: if you have to search hard for a “hint of truth” in satire, you’re doing it wrong.

        33. I don’t think this is a pro-rape group. I think this is a sadistic, misogynistic, backwards, woman hating, transphobic, and homophobic group, but not pro rape. I do support that these meetings were cancelled because they do promote the degrading of women. I think that any group that is promoting dehumanization of people should be challenged. Not threatened, but challenged.

        34. You do not regard any of the hundreds of physical threats against Roosh and others on this site as “forcing” the meetups to be cancelled? Physical threats that are still being logged for later reporting to the authorities given their specificity and identifiability?

        35. No, you merely subvert freedom of speech by passive-aggressiveness: “You’re free to say whatever you want, but you’re going to be screamed at by hordes of women if you do.” That is not free speech. That is oppression.

        37. You wrote:
          “I don’t think they were totally misguided.”
          Which is absurd. They thought they were protesting a “Pro-rape” group, which you admit is a lie.
          The meetings were cancelled because the organizer could no longer reasonably think that none of his people would be hurt. You support this. You need to face up to what you are.

        38. I know what I am. I am a person who doesn’t like the degrading and dehumanization of people. And though this group doesn’t promote rape, it looks down upon women. It looks down upon gay men. It looks down upon transgenders. They were misguided in thinking that it is a pro-rape group, but they weren’t misguided in wanting the meetings cancelled. We’re not going to agree, and that’s okay. I just hope that you don’t have a daughter.

        39. We actually try and better ourselves as men on this site and become more attractive by working out and so on. You should not hate us or fear us at all.

        41. Now you realize that you’ve lost the argument–that you’ve been exposed as a petty little despot, a wannabe fascist who can’t even admit that she is glad that a group of Americans was intimidated into giving up their rights.
          Sad.

        44. Here is some basic logic: You are glad the meetings were “Stopped.” They were stopped because of threats of violence and lies. Thus, you support violent threats and lies, in this instance.

        46. why is it awful to women? also this group is meant to be for men mostly, why is that a problem?

        48. Hey, fuck it. YES! Down with the men. I’m glad this slimy little group had all their precious rights taken away. Man the fuck up. If this group is about masculinity then where is yours? Aren’t you tough enough to handle the threats??? Especially since they’re from a bunch of weak women?

        49. It’s degrading. Part of the views and beliefs is that a woman’s value is in her beauty and fertility

        50. Look at reality. Nowadays, feminism is either explicitly or implicitly about hating men and masculine behaviour.

        51. No, Amber, you are glad the meetings were “stopped” and you support the people who stopped them, and, thus, you cannot separate yourself from how they stopped them.
          You throw out bratty little insults like: “I hope you don’t have a daughter” because you realize the corner you have painted yourself in. You got yourself into a position you can’t talk your way out of, I’m afraid. That is the hubris of political correctness at work.

        53. No, I sincerely hope that you don’t have a daughter. I really do. I haven’t painted myself into any corner. I am glad the meetings got cancelled because I am disgusted by the things this group promotes. I don’t agree with threats. I’m not a horrible person. You keep trying to make me into something that I’m not. And while you’re making a good effort, it’s just not true.

        54. Ahhhhhhh–now the truth comes out! THANK YOU!
          Put simply, those men respect the rule of law, and don’t like the idea of street violence.
          Bad, bad girl, Amber.

        56. You showed your hand, Amber Anyone can read what you wrote. You’re slipping deeper and deeper into total aiirhead-ism here.

        57. I don’t think women should have to wear burqas because the men say so. I think that’s wrong as well. If a woman wanted to wear the burqa, okay. But she shouldn’t be forced.

        58. To say that’s where a woman’s value lies is degrading. Admiring beauty itself is not. Just having someone’s worth lie in their attractiveness is not right at all.

        60. Maybe I should be punished with a good old fashioned stoning since that’s the era most of this site is living in.

        61. The thing is, anyone with the same mindset as you is going to read all of this as me being the bad guy and trying to infringe on rights. But anyone else, will probably see it my way. People see and read what they want to, and I can’t fault you for that. As a woman I am very offended by this group. As a human being I am offended by this group. I think that you are an intelligent person. I can see that. I don’t get why you associate yourself with this kind of group. This is just awful.

        62. Down with the men? “sigh” why do you want to take away our masculinity? You want a masculine man right? unless you homo/trans i guess

        63. I don’t want to take away your masculinity. I could not care less about your masculinity. That above was extreme sarcasm. I just want you see women not as lesser beings.

        64. You smoke a lot pot, don’t you Amber? “This is just awful” is not an argument. If you love freedom of speech, you love this quote:
          “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it”
          You don’t. And you don’t.

        67. No I don’t. I know that’s not an argument because I’m not trying to argue. I do love rights and freedoms. I am pro-choice because I believe women should have the right to do what they want with their bodies. I do love that quote, but hateful speech is just cringey. I even said that nothing they were doing is illegal, and they do have every right to meet. But I don’t want them to meet. Just like I don’t want the KKK to meet. (I’M NOT COMPARING THE TWO). They have every right to meet, but I’m a human and I don’t support threatening anyone for exercising their rights, but I also don’t support someone degrading people for things they can’t help. There’s a moral dilemma. Objectiveness is not easy in situations where you are a part of the people being degraded and looked down upon.

        70. Objectiveness?
          “I do love that quote,* but hateful speech is just cringey.”
          Uh…. do you realize how ridiculous you’re sounding now?
          The quote, again:
          *I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it”

        71. Well, if that’s what you crave, then I’d suggest you incur the wrath of those that shut these meetings down.

        72. ehm i don’t think you care that much about your looks but i can only guess. I just know that i love beautiful women, and i have the right to. Personality also means alot.

        73. Why can’t I like that quote, but also have an opinion? Just because someone has the right to say something doesn’t mean I’m going to like what they say.

        75. I do care about my looks, actually. I’m not saying you can’t love beautiful women. But you’re not going to decide on a woman solely based on if she is beautiful. That’s not the only thing women have going for them.

        76. Actually, despite all their babbling about equality, they sweet talk men into coming and making up the bulk of the rabble. The video of the lynch mob that went after Roosh in Toronto shows that.
          But, realize that you are advocating that this be settled with violence in the streets. I’m glad you’re showing your true colors.

        77. I’m not advocating that. I’ve said multiple times that I don’t condone threats and violence. I’m not understanding what you aren’t getting about that.

        78. I’m very glad you care about your looks 😉 Ofcause the looks is only the first expression. Personality is very important! I’ve met alot of hot women that i lost interest in after i talked to them for like 30 sec.

        79. Mmm… you’re really not that smart, are you? May I remind you (again!) that the group we are talking about was stopped from meeting, that you are glad they were stopped from meeting, and that threats of violence is how they were stopped from meeting.
          Taking that position and liking that quote are irreconcilable views.

        81. What you’re not understanding is that you are glad that these meetings were stopped–and that they were stopped because of lies that whipped a mob into a violent, threatening frenzy. You can’t talk your way out of it, Amber.

        82. I am smart. I actually really am. I am glad they were stopped from meeting, but may I remind you (again!) that I don’t think threats are ever appropriate, and just because I’m glad there’s no meetings doesn’t mean I’m glad that threats stopped it. I think the meetings were horrible and I think the way they were stopped was horrible. I can think both!!! :))))

        83. I agree that a woman’s value is not only in her beauty, yes. But if i should name the most important thing i would value in a woman beauty is still the biggest factor (like 50%).

        84. I’m not trying to talk my way out of anything, Pearl. I can be glad they were stopped but not like the way they were stopped. That’s not impossible.

        85. But you are glad that they were stopped. You honestly can’t see how that contradicts your assertion that you support freedom of speech?
          It does. And if you can’t see that, you’re dumb. Period. And if you simply can’t accept it, you are hopelessly stricken with what Orwell dubbed Doublethink.

        86. It’s like looking at a pit of communist youths who were gunned down in cold blood by fascists and saying:
          “I don’t support how they were stopped, but I’m glad they were stopped.”
          You are too used to speaking into echo chambers to realize even the most basic flaws in your logic. And moral positions.

        87. I can see how it can be contradicting, but that doesn’t mean I can’t think it. Maybe I do have Doublethink. Maybe we all do. You support freedom of speech, but you’re really dogging on me right now. I’m just exercising my right.

        88. So you’re comparing slaughtering of children to these little meetings being cancelled? Gotcha.

        89. The fundamental difference is that arguing with someone is not “Stopping” them. I never once argued that you should be stopped, or that I would be glad if you were “Stopped.” Yes, you do suffer from DoubleThink. I’m glad we can finally agree on something.

        92. Just because someone can do something doesn’t mean that they should. Donald Trump can be a racist, but that doesn’t mean he should.

        93. When it comes to your position that you were glad that they were stopped,absolutely not.
          The people generally associated with this site don’t organize braying lynch mobs to physically “stop” private meetings of radical feminists. And they would be enraged by the very idea of it. That pretty much says it all.

        95. Maybe because feminism doesn’t promote the degrading of men, lesbians, and transgender women.

        96. Does it really matter? Honestly. Is there a point to this? Are you trying to make me see things your way? I don’t and I won’t, and the same with you for my side. It’s just the way it is. People disagree and that’s fine, just don’t think of me as a lesser human because I am a woman. That’s all I ask.

        97. Some feminism absolutely does degrade men, and the adherents of those brands of feminism would be offended by your claim that they don’t. Nonetheless, they have the right to meet and talk without the threat of violence.

        98. I’m trying to make you see things your way. But you seem incapable of the most basic self-awareness.

        99. I completely agree that EVERYONE has the right to meet without the threat of violence, and even though they probably shouldn’t meet because that brand of feminism is equally as cringey as this site, they also should not be met with threats of violence. But keep in mind, just because someone can and has the right to do something, doesn’t mean they should.

        101. I get what you are trying to say. I really do. I’m not ignorant. I completely understand the position you are coming from. You don’t think there’s a way that I can value freedom of speech, but not support the meetings of these groups. I get that. I totally do. But just because you can’t reconcile it, doesn’t mean that I can’t.

        102. It’s an irreconcilable position, objectively–it doesn’t matter who is taking the position. Again, you are glad they were “Stopped” from meeting.

        103. I really don’t think I have. Your argument is that they have the right to meet. Yes, that it is very true. But just because you can do something and have the right to do it doesn’t mean you should. I have the right to host an anti-hispanic rally, but that doesn’t mean I should.

        105. Objectively, yes. It is irreconcilable. I can agree with you on that, but I’ve already stated that I’m having trouble looking at this objectively because of the stance this group takes on women. I didn’t hide that fact.

        106. Right. Your emotionalist response to this has disabled your ability to think logically. Agreed.

        107. I am glad the meetings did not take place, Pearl. I don’t think anyone deserves threats. The ends did not justify the means in this situation. I would rather these cringey meetings go on than have people fearful of their safety, but I am glad the meetings aren’t taking place. Because even though a lot of it was under false pretenses, a lot of women were also fearful of their safety. I’m not saying that women’s safety is above men’s, but both parties were fearful in this situation. It saves them both from being fearing.

        108. The ends did not justify the means in this situation.
          CORRECT
          I would rather these cringey meetings go on than have people fearful of their safety, but I am glad the meetings aren’t taking place.
          MORALLY IRRECONCILABLE
          Because even though a lot of it was under false pretenses, a lot of women were also fearful of their safety.
          THIS IS THE MOST ABSURD STATEMENT YOU HAVE MADE THUS FAR. YOU ARE GLAD THE MEETINGS WERE STOPPED BECAUSE THE LIES ABOUT THEM MADE WOMEN FEARFUL. TRULY ABSURD.

        109. This comment perpetuates harmful gender stereotypes and promotes toxic masculinity. Educate yourself.

  136. ANYone–no matter what their views on gender politics, etc–who is not absolutely DISGUSTED and DISMAYED at the fact that a hysterical mob and a lying media shut down a group’s attempts to assemble peacefully (and privately) is a pathetic excuse of a human being.

  137. You guys need help. This guy is only in it for the money, open your eyes! The world isn’t out to get you, you’ve had tragedies and bad experiences, but it’s not the fault of women, or feminism, or trans people. Don’t blame others for your “oppression”, the patriarchy is still alive and well and you’re fine.

    1. So denying a bunch of men the opportubity meet and have a drink is not oppression?
      Funny, feminists say otherwise, when its women being told you can’t anyway.

      1. nobody denied you’re meeting just the fact you’re daddy shit himself and cancelled because he doesn’t want the deaths of brain dead inept men on his hands because you are all stupid enough to believe women belong in kitchens…..

        1. I am a woman. And i am damn good in the kitchen (elsewhere too but i digress).
          Read the threats of violemce against a bunch of guys who want to meet up and have a drink. Yes, these men have been denied an opportunity to meet in person. Heaven forbid that happened to a women’s group.
          And it’s ‘your’ not ‘you’re ‘.

        2. its definitly not “your” but its the net im not here to pick on ppls grammar in a comment section, yes the threats of violence is unnecessary thats due too the false “legalize rape” allegations which is totally unfair and for the blokes that purely want too make things better for men i support you but being sexist saying they only belong in kitchens and had other rok members call africans “orc’s” and many other degrading comments I dont blame people for being angry but take it out where its due this site is only making things worse for men

  138. If you are a Western woman you should be praising the Lord that these meetings are finally happening! It means your men are beginning to find their purpose again and shake free of the shackles of self-limiting beliefs.
    You no longer have to import repulsive African Orcs in order to get your fill of testosterone-filled men! You’re gonna love it.

    1. Feminists know they can’t control alpha males. So the thought of losing control of beta males makes them crap themselves.

      1. YEP
        As we can demonstrate over and over, they worship and celebrate negro masculinity while demonizing and crushing European masculinity. They openly support pro-black and pro-hispanic organizations and charities, but hurl the most vile epithets possible at anyone who would dare organize on behalf of Whites.
        Their rank hypocrisy is total and complete. A rotten ship, about to sink.

        1. Just general bigotry, I see. Aim higher. Why do you assume that whites are better than any other person? We’re all humans sharing the struggle on this earth.

        2. blah blah blah meaningless emotional vomit blah blah blah
          try a coherent argument next time, thanks

        3. Alright, how about you give a valid scientific argument as to why white supremacy is legit, and I’ll refute you in kind.

    2. “Repulsive African orcs”
      I thought the meeting was destined to be for men of all races that shared common ideological values.

      1. Yo if any repulsive African Orcs are planning on showing up to my meeting, I’d like to know in advance so I can skip. You’re not in SoCal are you?

        3. well no offense brother but you must think lowly of yourself if you responded to the description.

        4. Who said I responded to the description? You asked me If I would show up the meeting in our area and simply said yes. I just thought that the way you characterized a whole race was a bit harsh.

        3. So how do you see someone who resorts to Grammar Nit Picking who took the Time to Comment but lacked an Argument because “Didn’t have a horse in this Particular Race”.

        4. I appreciate your consistency in referring to “Grammar Nit Picking” as a proper noun.. you get an A 😉

        6. Actually though, I just noticed that all your nouns are capitalized… I hope it’s a side-effect of your keyboard!

  139. We’re all grown men here, we don’t need you to guarantee our safety. We each independently determine if the risk is worth it for us.
    What happened to not backing down?

    1. Live to fight another day? No point us running into a certain ambush. Pick your battles.

  140. You’re cancelling your meetings because Roosh can’t “guarantee [your] safety or privacy”.
    And you are the men who would be Kings?
    LGBTQ people rioted in the streets and fought the police for their rights at Stonewall in 1969.
    English suffragettes stormed the House of Commons in 1908.
    But you big brave alpha men tuck tail and run when a couple of mayors diss you in the press.
    Hilarious.
    Just… hilarious beyond words.

    1. How many faggots would love to hear you rehearse those very words you just typed, in their face, so they could smell the cum on your breath?

    2. He’s been libeled, slandered, and all but threatened by law enforcement and a state governor. It’s no joke. This is some bullshit.

      1. Oh I’m sorry, do libel and slander break bones?
        I though that was sticks and stones.
        My bad.
        ROTFL

    1. You White Knighting little homo. I’d twist you up like a pretzel and toss you in the waste bin.

    2. The last time a group of northerners came to the South it didn’t turn out too well for the South I’m sorry to tell you.

      1. Well, with open carry now in effect, I think we’d have fun using y’all for target practice.

        3. What crime have we committed? Traditionally one needs to be convicted by a court before you spend time in jail, or have they dispensed with that charming little tradition in the South too? If anyone appears to be encouraging others to commit crimes it would be you and your fellow hysterics.

        5. That’s all right: the South has a long history of lynchings and murders in the name of “justice” without trial at the urging of women, albeit they used to focus exclusively on black men as their victims. I’m glad to see they’ve at least accepted desegregation.

        3. Though PCCop enjoys being called “sweetheart,” PCCop’s pronouns are “xlir,” “fweeb,” “bloop,” and “^$%^”.

        4. I’ll stick to “sweetheart. Or I could say “worthless piece of shit that no one will ever love” if you’d prefer that.

        5. Has Kylea Rene been illegally viewing PCCop’s mental health records? That is a serious violation of privacy and contributes to PCCop’s worsening psychotic disorder. Educate xirself.

        6. Wow… Ok, bro. You have fun in whatever reality you’re in. I hope it’s nice there.

        7. PCCop also lacks all sense of irony. Kylea Rene shall hold a position of great influence come the revolution.

        9. Kylea Rene shall serve as Vice Chair of the Manspreading Prevention Task Force. From there the sky is the limit.

        10. PCCop wishes to clarify the above statement: the sky should in no way be viewed as limiting to any female-identified humyn. PCCop is sure that with enough determination Kylea Rene could levitate Kylea Rene’s self into low Earth orbit sans technology of any sort through sheer strength of will, such is the power of female-identified humans.

  142. Well I’m still down to meet up in Houston 8:20 Sam Houston monument if anyone else is down!

    1. More posts like this!! I’ll still scope out my original meetup place. I’ve chatted up plenty of people in my time and I can pretty much gague what someone is about. I’m not an interrigator, more of a street preacher when I want to be, and it would be cool to run into another supporter or supporters who just happen to be checking out the area anyway.

  143. Ello, ello, comrades! I just got home from the Trump rally & saw the sour news. You are all welcome to join us in Little Rock on Saturday. We proceed as planned! Hit me up on here. Hosts also know how to reach me.

  144. This demonstrates once again that female violence and censorship is real, whereas male rape culture is a myth.
    Go on, girls, and show your true colours!

    1. Lol what a farce! “Men are afraid that women will laugh at them, women are afraid that men will kill them”. There’s a big difference in the power dynamic there.

      1. Women are truly desperate if they feel the need to oppose such meetings. If you want to protect humanity, fight some groups that are dangerous.

        1. The rhetoric that you spout IS dangerous. It’s not conducive towards a well-functioning society. It’s time for progress, not back-stepping.

        2. It should read, “IS is dangerous.”
          That is a real problem few people dare to tackle. If you want progress, start there.
          There is probably not a single illegal statement on this website (except probably the notorious Kratom ads 😉 ).

  145. Is this what men have become? Cowering from the green hair, gluttonously fat, and lie consuming weak of the world? We are a social group, not al qaeda. Guarantee my protection from whom? These people are the meek attempting to nip at the heels of lions. You can let them eat you slowly, I won’t. I’m showing up anyway. I will not run from an enemy that is no more threatening than a common housefly.

      1. Shit posting on a device made by men, powered with electricity created and maintained by men, in a house made by men in a society forged by man.
        You go guuuurl.

        1. You’re real tough from behind a screen yourself there, big boy.
          Why don’t you come out from behind it and … oh wait, nvm.
          Lmao

        2. —> Accuses others of cowardice behind a screen
          –> Sits behind a screen and uses fake names to make accusations

        5. How about you meet me somewhere under the rainbow.
          To make sure its safe to reveal yourself, ask where you can buy a backbone.
          I’ll know who it is.
          LoLoLoLoL

        8. If only my appetite could destroy nations. Instead I’m stuck with you and fat jokes. Give us a yo mama joke next.

      2. The death of men is what has given you the privilege to hate them, and spew your vile hate speech while embracing your coddled lifestyle. While they fought for you, you now fight them. Eventually you’ll be 40, alone, and miserable. Congratulations feminist, you’ve accomplished your goal of pariah.

        1. Who hates men?
          I love men!
          I’ve definitely never fought one.
          And how do you know I’m not already 40?!

        2. It’s natural for men to lose a little of their “god-given” privilege as the world strives for some modicum of gender equality. It’s like an only child who had their parent’s full attention crying and being contrary when a new baby is born and they have to share for once in their lives… Or do you think that men and women have always been treated equally and you’re now actually being oppressed, like woman control the world or something? Men are by far still more dominant in the world sphere, and gender equality is still a long time away. Lets just call this the growing pains of a just civilization.

        3. God given? Since the beginning of time 99% of war fatalities are male. Why don’t you check your privledge? Women not working the front lines of war is opressing the male gender right to live.

        4. Of course!
          Centuries of men getting together to kill other men is obviously all the fault of women everywhere.

        5. Woman can and do serve in the military now, and have sometimes gone undercover as men to fight for their countries when they were denied the right to fight by the established order. You do realize that they had to enact legislation to legalize female military personnel, right? It’s long been the case that women were forbidden to fight because they were believed to be too frail, or that their place was in the home. They were and continue to be denied the opportunities that we men take for granted.

        6. It’s not the fault of either gender. gender has nothing to do with it. However, men are the ones who protect the women, and the weaker men. I can assume that you’re an american, and if China invaded America tomorrow, you would want men to protect you? Or would that be oppressing you?

        7. So, we women should thank you brave strong men for protecting us from… other men?
          You’re right, that makes SO much more sense.
          We really are SO lucky to have men to protect us from men!

    1. I marched on Stonewall, and I find your gratuitous use of the Rainbow Flag to be astonishingly disrespectful and gauche.

      1. Tsk tsk. If you align yourself with this gang of misogynists and homophobic then YOU sir, are a DISGRACE, and in no position to judge anyone.

  147. Well, looks like I’ve upset some of you boys. Will miss you if they ban me but will continue on my site Return of Rapetards. See you there! xxx Keep up the good fight for your rights!

  149. Let’s hold a meeting in a male prison and see how they feel about being raped.
    #NoVaseline #DontDropTheSoap

        1. You’re right, it may be Gloria Allred undercover. But that’s a’ite. I gotta few friends in law, wink wink nudge nudge.

        2. my question to ROK supporter’s you say this site is for the good of all men but you have cunts like adam calling african males “orcs” kinda goes against what your trying too accomplish here..?

  151. So, you can talk mess, but you can’t back it? You’re all a bunch of pussies. Don’t consider yourself men. There’s a reason no woman has ever given you the time of day. The minute you realize that people hate you, you run with your tails between your legs.

    1. Look at your lumbersexual bf! You’d take the D from a good 75% of us you confused currently lying cunt.

      1. Hahaha I’m so far out of all of your leagues. Really, we aren’t even playing the same game.

        1. As long as we have the twins swinging between the legs….there is no bitch out of our league. The only REASON you think this (and get away with it) is because of manginas (that you hate fucking) are paving your way and coming to your rescue.

        2. Hahaha this is the best thread I’ve ever been a part of. Have you ever actually even talked to a woman? Or is this the first time?

        3. My only obstacle to talking to a woman is getting her to put her fucking security blanket (cell) down and her ignorance (covered up by her resting bitch face). It is you who can’t be talked to moron.

        4. No. If an interesting, attractive man approaches us, they immediately have our attention. You’re probably neither of those things, hence why women ignore you.

        5. “Interesting” = tattoos.
          “Attractive” = drug dealer.
          As the 50% of single mother rates in the US tell us.

        6. That statistic isn’t even remotely close to true, sweetheart. I actually feel kind of bad for you guys. I never knew a group of this many pathetic boys existed.

        7. This entire website is based on assumption and stereotyping. And it’s the funniest thing I’ve ever read. I feel like I’m reading satire articles on The Onion.

        8. You hate fucking your BF and you know it. That’s why you are here busying yourself with things that should be the furthest from your wee little mind.

        9. Uh huh… Again another false assumption by a sad, lonely boy. Tell me. How many women have cheated on your sorry ass? Or just left because they ended up hating you? I’m going to guess every single one. Your female family members probably can’t stand you either, huh? Is that why you hate women so much?

        12. I figured. It’s like when you show Republicans facts. They suddenly don’t know how to read.

        13. Just ignore it and hope it goes away. Unfortunately for you, our hate for you is going nowhere.

        14. Ouch. You cut me to the quick. How do you know me so well? Listen you cunt….you will be voting for a democrat this Nov. Which so happens to be the party of VICTIMS. Don’t play all high and mighty you poor pathetic soul. You know you are helpless and needy and feel alone.

        15. You don’t have any arguments. That’s a fact.
          What is your problem with those meetings?

        16. So, I was right? All of the women in your life hate you? It would make sense since you appear to be such a grotesque human being.

        19. That no city wants a bunch of lonely, women hating, creeps congregating anywhere near their city limits. I want absolutely none of you near my house. In my town where one of the meetings was, the bars were going to ban any of your group from entering. NO ONE WANTS YOU. You probably know that already, though.

        20. I’m done arguing with you. Losing man-points. But I can appreciate a woman with an opinion. I find it amusing. Kind of cute. Like a child explaining flight or the markets. I’d really like to pat you on the head right now. As you suck my dick! 🙂 Do you swallow?

        23. I wouldn’t touch you with a 39 and a half foot pole, to quote The Grinch. I would bet money that no other woman has either.

        24. THIS is disturbing and twisted, and I would seriously recommended therapy for all of you.

        25. Sure you would bitch. You’d drain a good majority of the men on this site because we are on to you and don’t put up with your childish illogical B.S.

        26. What is THIS? Honestly, there may be hate involved in many articles. But hate is totally normal when one is dissatisfied with the state of affairs.
          Limiting free speech is something that is truly dangerous.

        27. Again, all of you don’t know how to actually talk to a woman, let alone no what to do if you somehow managed to pick one up. I can’t get over how pathetic all of you are. This is the most fun I’ve had in a while. I can’t wait to come back every few days and comment 🙂

        28. The amount of disgusting content about women I read is appalling. I didn’t know that I was a “dirty whore” whose only use was as a “cum bucket”. Especially since I’ve only ever slept with one person.
          You’re a bunch of pathetic, lonely boys. You’ve never been able to get a woman or, if you did, she left you(rightfully so, I might add). Now, you hate all women. And we didn’t collectively hate you before, but I guarantee we do now.

        30. It’s a common female tendency to feel that they are being referred to.
          Why do you care about us?

        32. So, I should take nothing from the fact that every article says “all women” at least a couple of times?

        33. Maybe the articles are often exaggerated to deliver the message?
          If you don’t like what you read, stop reading. Problem solved.

        34. Nah, I think I’ll stay. It gives me a good laugh, plus I like getting you pussies all up in a tizzy.

        36. It’s true then….you need help sometimes. I can thoroughly understand. But here’s a shoe-in for ya. Fantasize about you and her….sucking my dick. You may even gush!!!!

        37. The only thing I’m happy about is that we scared you fuckers enough that you’re staying hidden. Don’t come out of your parents’ basements. The world, like all women you’ve met, wishes that you’d disappear.

        38. You don’t have to reveal that. We are well aware of the fact that if women were superior to men they would scare us every single day. That’s the difference between men and women.

        39. I’ve literally never been drier. I didn’t even know it was possible for me to be so turned off.

        40. It’s not just women, dear. Actual men (not this thing you consider yourself) hate you. They would’ve been the ones you’d have to deal with. Especially in the South.

        42. sociopath
          [soh-see-uh-path, soh-shee-]
          Examples
          Word Origin
          noun, Psychiatry.
          1.
          a person with a psychopathic personality whose behavior is antisocial, often criminal, and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience.

        44. Psychosis
          Noun
          Definition: a severe mental disorder in which thought and emotions are so impaired that contact is lost with external reality.
          I’m assuming all of you fall under this definition.

        45. Have you ever even seen a naked woman in person? I mean, one that you weren’t sexually assaulting?

        46. Lmfao. Really, you fall under both.
          You seriously legitimately believe you are equal to males which completely defies external reality. That is the definition of psychosis.
          Let me put you in a ring with Hulk Hogan and we’ll see how equal you are, sweety. Now go back to your delusional version of reality and leave the sane people alone, child.

        47. Yes, I have seen close to 100, all consensual. I have proof of roughly 20 of them, so you can toss that argument out the window right now. I know your type like the back of my hand.

        48. Haha you lying loser… I didn’t think you could get more pathetic. You’ve lost all sense of reality, sweetheart.

        50. So, if it’s common knowledge that men are better and that what y’all believe is so true, why are you such a tiny minority? Why are you too afraid to come out of the woodwork? Because the sane majority would rip you to shreds. Stay hidden away on blogs. Nothing will ever become of you, even if you guys did decide to actually show your faces.

        52. Give me your email and I’ll send you personal videos. You can keep hurling baseless insults, I’m not afraid to prove you wrong.

        53. And even if that is somehow miraculously true, it’s absolutely disgusting and you are what’s known as a “Fuckboy”.

        54. Ew. What a tiny dick. Also, I have no clue if that’s actually you. And I firmly believe that you downloaded that from somewhere. That’s what creepy losers do.

        55. You don’t have a clue what a fuckboy is. I’ll give you a hint, it has nothing to do with sex.

        56. You have a rape fantasy and you know it. You long for a man to aggressively risk ALL (including his freedom) to fulfill his hell bent lust for you.

        57. Hahaha you don’t even know that you are one! You’re useless garbage that people only use to fuck. You’re a whore and slut.

        58. Google image search, smart one. And no, 7″ isn’t tiny. It might be small for your used up hallway you call a vagina, but as you can tell, I fuck tighter pussy than you’ll ever dream of having.

        59. Alright, honey. I would seriously recommend therapy. Extremely intensive therapy. You’re a grotesque human being.

        60. Hun, I’ve already proven you to be a sociopathic psychopath. I think it’s you that needs therapy.

        61. I’m used to 9″, so, yeah, that’s tiny. Poor girls, having to deal with that disease ridden tiny penis.

        62. And you are self deceived and hater of truth by nature. Things like….”How old are you?” and “How much do you weigh?” And “no that dress doesn’t make you look fat….your fat makes you look fat.” and “You have a rape fantasy.” Offends you. Go fuck yourself.

        63. Then you are exactly what I thought you were. A dirty, used up, loose pussy, delusional, feminist bisexual whore. The pinnacle of the feminist.

        64. Feel free to leave all of us losers alone. You’re like the girl who constantly wants to go into the boys treehouse. You gals are like that, constantly nagging always up in our business.

        65. As I said earlier, only ever slept with one person. I just lucked out. Your skinny ass dick is probably why you can’t keep a woman.

        66. You nailed it. The fact that KRM cares so much is telling. Women cannot abide by independent thinking men. A group of guys could have the cure for cancer and the gals would object…

        67. Only the last one offends me, my dear. Seriously, consider intensive in patient therapy. Preferably with a high powered female psychiatrist.

        68. Lmfao, no, a fuckboy is not a male version of a slut. It has nothing to do with sex, you’re a moron and I’m done with you.

        70. Good thing I’m already in it 🙂 and I’m not a sociopath (I’ve been checked ;)). I just have no empathy for worthless, women hating, pieces of garbage. Most of the world doesn’t, that’s why you guys got scared.

        71. Oh, sweetheart. Denial is never good. Women are actually using you and you don’t even realize it. As they should, as you are just a pathetic piece of shit.

        72. One person my ass. It’s been statistically proven the majority of you lie. You’re a slut and you know it and you hate being a slut.

        73. Nope. I’m the girl that’s severely bored and think this is the funniest, most pathetic thing I’ve ever seen. I might write one of my social work papers about gender inequality and misogyny over this site. It’s the most bizarre thing I’ve ever stumbled upon.

        74. Why do I need a therapist? I’m not a rapist. You’re the one with the twisted fantasy……you should see one. OR just read RoK articles and save some cash.

        75. Complete loss of reality, aggression, rage, possible delusions and clear unresolved issues just to name a few.

        78. Is that another statistic that can be found only on this woman hating site? Indeed it is.

        79. Ah, but it does. Unlike all of you, I have a firm grip on reality (not from therapy. I’m not psychotic or sociopathic, but thanks for the concern:))

        80. We don’t hate women, but you are the farthest thing from a woman feasibly possible. Your ancestors would spit in your face and disown you, and probably your parents as well.

        81. Hun, normal sane people don’t see psychs, because they don’t need to, unlike you. What kinda meds they put you on?

        82. No you fear the information on sites like this. Sites like this reveal the true nature of women and it scares the hell out of you.

        85. I’d probably spit on my ancestors, too. My parents and I are really close. It’s sweet how much you care 🙂

        92. Exactly my point. Only a mentally ill narcissist would disrespect their own family like that.

        93. Wow… This is so cool. I’ve never talked to such a manipulative sociopath. This is really interesting. Have you always been this way or did it only present itself in late adolescents? Did you have a traumatic childhood that caused you to develop your manipulation as a wall around yourself?

        94. No, you’ll probably die with a dick in you, cause you’ll be a ho until the day you die.

        98. Afghani right now, maybe Purple Cheese in a little bit. Both are pretty chill strains, with a nice body high. 🙂

        100. It was a rhetorical statement, smart one. That means your reply isn’t needed. All of my points have been proven, so you can stop replying now.

        101. Shaming men for penis size perpetuates harmful stereotypes and contributes to toxic masculinity. Educate yourself.

        102. Oh, I’m sorry. Did it hurt your feelings when I gender-bent everything on this website and made it about men?

        105. Oh, dear, no. How skewed your reality really is. According to this website, if a woman has too much sex, she’s a worthless whore. I read that in several different articles. You are a pathetic boy, and I genuinely feel a little bad that you’re stupid enough to be brainwashed.

        106. PCCop does not have “feelings.” PCCop is the dispassionate voice of social justice. PCCop encourages gender bending as a means to eradicate the false male/female dichotomy. PCCop is bleebself a double transgender hermaphrodite.

        108. Can you even read the shit on this website? Bless your heart, you really are touched in the head, as my grandmother would say. It’s very sad.

        109. PCCop has lost all sense of reality and should return to the psych ward before the hand out jello.

        110. PCCop will, come the revolution, ensure that all contributors to this site found to have committed thought crime shall serve a term of no less than five years in the cat mines of “New Dworkonia.” Pending successful reeducation reformed offenders shall be allowed a small plot of land, a shovel and a cyanide capsule.

        112. Dr. Mathis says that PCCop is delusional as well. Dr. Mathis shall weep bitter tears in the bowels of darkest Dworkonia come the revolution.

    2. Walk into a meeting where the other side has police and enraged women on its side, where physical harm is likely, i.e. into a doomed operation?
      That might be a popular attitude in the South, dear, but real men don’t commit suicide.

        1. People with no sense of masculinity tend to overcompensate by asserting you have to be a rock ape, but I’m sorry to tell you that’s not what masculinity is.

      2. Again, y’all are just a bunch of scared boys. Probably never ever had the balls to talk to a woman, have you?

        1. I am quite sure you have a functional set of balls and a penis to go with it, charming girl.

      3. Reanimated Roman emperors are problematic. This is pure class privilege. How many Roman cobblers get to be reanimated? That said your book is really good, but allowing Commodus to succeed you was a mistake.

        1. Incest is no laughing matter, Kylea Rene. Your comments are problematic and betray a lack of sensitivity to less privileged people.

        2. Not sure how you got to that point. Sounds like loose association, a sign of psychosis.

        3. Public accusations of psychotic disorder by unqualified clinicians are inappropriate and perpetuate harmful stereotypes of the mentally ill.

        5. PCCop resents the term “psych patient.” PCCop considers grogself to be an escaped prisoner of war in an ideological conflict. Does Kylea Rene have a couch that PCCop can sleep on?

  152. I don’t agree with most of your opinions on people in general, I do understand that everyone has the right to their opinions and to share those opinions with others.
    I dislike very much that #Feminists and various other people are being so vile in response to a post you made over a year ago, after reading the post and watching the video, I saw the post as more of an experiment to see how people would react, I don’t believe that you honestly would want rape to be legalize in one form or the other, but i feel that you were just trying to point out that there are flaws in laws.
    I personal believe that if a woman makes a false claim of rape, that she should do the time that the victim of her claim would have done if it had been true. which I could write more on, but it’s beside the point.
    The people that are claiming you are a rapist and basically training men to be rapists and are sitting there actively calling out for people to do harm to you or your community is disgusting. There is never a time to sit there and tell anyone that “you hope their family members are raped” or that the person they are mad at “should be killed”. These things that are saying are just as degrading/disgusting/vile as believing that rape should be legalized. To those people I say “Pot meet Kettle”.
    It’s a shame that you had to cancel your meet up because of the threats, but I don’t view you as a coward for backing out of a battle that was out of control. I hope that the next time you want to have a man cave meeting w/ NO GIRLS ALLOWED, that maybe people will actually realize how foolish they were acting.

    1. Neomasculinity is no exception. Patience and wisdom, gals. These fucktards shall go the way of the hairy mammoth.

      1. I suspect you mean wooly mammoth. T’was not the ‘gals’ that ended the wooly mammoth.
        Side note: even f**ktards avoid hairy mammoths. Hairy and mammoth are warning signs of feminism.
        This is the first and last time I respond to the muck of your ignorance, lest you drag me in with you and beat me with experience.

  155. Well, looks like I’m going to game big booty women that night. Thanks a lot you friendly Lefties

  156. A fun lesson in hypocrisy: a child is threatened with death, defies those who threaten her, gets shot in the face, continues to publicly advocate for the cause that got her shot, and this site calls her a coward: http://www.returnofkings.com/45748/nobel-peace-prize-recipiant-malala-yousafzai-is-a-coward-and-a-hypocrite
    comparatively, a bunch of grown men get scared (although sca-waahd might be the preferred pronunciation on this site) by their own delusions of self-persecution and go running for the hills.
    Well, if we’re looking for courage, safe money’s on the middle school girls rather than this lot.

    2. Who’s running? These meetings will still take place and there’s absolutely nothing you can do about it.

      1. yeah, read, “delusions of self-persecution”… I have no desire to stop the global circle jerk you’ve got planned. Because I find you ridiculous and irrelevant. Have fun.

  158. Bad publicity is good publicity 😉
    The feminists don’t understand such simple principles.

  159. Still keen to meet up in Auckland, New Zealand. I’m sure most of us don’t need Roosh to guarantee our safety. give me a reply if anyone is still keen.

  160. Feminists and the media have succeeded against ROK. Now take the fight to the real rapists in Rotherham, Rochdale and Cologne! Those criminals will be trembling with fear of their impending fate!

      2. So you’re saying that all of the nearly 700 women who claim they were sexaully assaulted on NYE are all lying?
        You sound like a rapist apologist.

    2. It’s obvious that this is not going to happen. Our beloved feminists would never engage in any contact with dangerous men.

    3. Feminists love non-White rapists. What they despise, is White Betas trying to get all uppity and raise their status. Back to work, boys!

        6. Gee Aye, Its hard to find any “anti-ROK” folks to speak with. Could you help me? Where on this site has anyone been “pro-rape”? I’ve been reading for more than 2 years now, and I haven’t seen any traces of “pro-rape” speech.

        12. “How to Stop rape”?? Sounds pretty reasonable to me. Why would anyone be against stopping rape?

        14. Use of the term “fucktard” marginalizes people living with cognitive disability. Educate yourself.

    2. Not all of us. Support those who are not.
      But we are CRAZY good at inventing the lions share of the worlds technology and innovation over the last…..oh…. 150 years.

    4. Shaming the mentally ill is highly problematic. It perpetuates the stigma attached to mental illness. Educate yourself.

  162. Portsmouth meetup announced for male supremacist, pro-rape group
    Police to ‘monitor’ Market Square activity
    http://www.seacoastonline.com/article/20160203/NEWS/160209782
    Interim Police Chief David Mara said he researched Valizadeh and the Return of Kings and has talked to members of his department so they are aware when patrolling the area on Saturday night.
    “We in law enforcement strongly disagree with the position of these people,” he said. “Nevertheless, they have a right to gather.”
    …..
    Mara said it’s unlikely anyone will show up Saturday night who shares the values espoused by Valizadeh and his so-called tribesmen.
    “I expect more people will show up against it,” he said. “Nevertheless, we’re going to be monitoring it.”
    These Chicago folks at least have a sense of humor:
    Activists Hire Tuba Player to Follow Men’s Rights Meetup
    https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20160203/rogers-park/activists-seek-tuba-player-follow-mens-rights-protest

    1. so we’re “male supremacists” now? Gawd when did “supremacy” and “supremacist” get to be such buzzword hard-ons

    2. Pro-rape? Actually, I’ve been informed by someone against the meetups that the group is trying to “stop” rape. Bit confused.

  164. The frenzy and hysteria about this here in Australia is fever pitch. I don’t know why but Australians are more tightly under the thrall of the media than Americans.

    1. Australia has fallen so much in the last decade. It’s just not an enjoyable country to either live in or visit anymore

  165. SO LISTEN MEN
    This whole experience confirms something I’ve felt for a long while.
    It’s time we bring back private, membership-only men’s clubs. This is the way forward. It will provide a legal shroud of protection as well as an established and legitimized presence in the community.
    I’m working on it but we need a lot of money.

    1. We need places with scotch bars, cigar lounges, pool tables, libraries, meeting rooms, and reception halls.

        1. um yeah sure. But I will admit to having issue with minorities who have the goal of sexing White girls. I wouldn’t want to associate with them.
          And I know every other race feels the same way.

        3. Are white women just held in the highest strata? I always wondered why only white men should be their only option

        4. real men stick to their own kind, their own heritage, and if they don’t like it they work to improve it. that’s my opinion. I’ve always found black guys with black wives to be upstanding and honorable men.

        5. Don’t worry, there won’t be any White women left at all, in 30 or 40 years, if you twisted globalist freaks get your way (but you won’t).

    2. Rent a small apartment or check out air bnb, collect small membership fees to cover costs.

        1. Yes, joking aside, it can be modelled after freemasonry, though with a different charter and purpose. Regrettably, in the current toxic political environment, no other form of organization for men’s rights, or simply a gentlemen’s club will do.

  167. It’s funny that you think that every dissenting commenter here is a fat woman in their forties. There are a lot of dudes here too, myself included. It’s a struggle being a fair, educated, well-adjusted human being.

    2. If that is that case why would you then assume all people planning to attend these meet-ups which you have a problem with, are all the same in their thinking and ideology?

      1. Uhhhh…you’re part of a pro rape group. pretty self explanatory what your thinking and ideology is

        4. Stop rape by only allowing rape in private places. I fail to see how that’s a solution to stopping rape.

        5. Again, a false premise created to support a fictitious narrative. These were not (nor will be) meet ups to perpetuate rape. You are lying.

        6. “If rape becomes legal under my proposal, a girl will protect her body in the same manner that she protects her purse and smartphone. If rape becomes legal, a girl will not enter an impaired state of mind where she can’t resist being dragged off to a bedroom with a man who she is unsure of—she’ll scream, yell, or kick at his attempt while bystanders are still around. If rape becomes legal, she will never be unchaperoned with a man she doesn’t want to sleep with. After several months of advertising this law throughout the land, rape would be virtually eliminated on the first day it is applied.”

        9. I think you missed the point.
          He is arguing that women should not make bad choices that would put them in situations that rapists might take advantage of.

        10. I think you miss the point of being a decent human and trying to eliminate rape from the source, not the symptom.

        11. Some men will take advantage of women, no matter what. They view them as prey.
          Don’t let oneself be prey.

        12. Why is a woman’s responsibility not to be raped? That makes the assumption that it’s natural for men to rape. It’s not.

        14. The fucked up thing is, a lot of men in this group are exactly those men who view women as prey. They might not go out with the intent to rape someone, but the mentality is the same. “Women are objects for my pleasure, I will hunt them, and make them mine.”

        15. Except when it’s not consensual (ie: rape), then it’s a one-sided deal. Nobody ever consents to be raped. When there’s consent, it’s just called sex.

        16. Yup. And insurance wont cover me if i get broken into when i leave doors unlocked. Nope, shouldnt have been burgled but i should have taken some precautions.

    3. Yet all the men planning to attend are weak, insecure losers who live in their mom’s basement and can’t wait to rape? See how things can get misconstrued on both sides?

      1. Oh, absolutely! I don’t think that kind of rhetoric has any place in a real debate, I’ve been trying to at least make sure that there’s some facts thrown out here. You’ve been assigned the rapist label because your leader advocates for legal rape within one’s own domicile. That’s problematic. Both because he advocates for it and I’m sure some but not all of the members of this group follow him in their beliefs.

        2. “If rape becomes legal under my proposal, a girl will protect her body in the same manner that she protects her purse and smartphone. If rape becomes legal, a girl will not enter an impaired state of mind where she can’t resist being dragged off to a bedroom with a man who she is unsure of—she’ll scream, yell, or kick at his attempt while bystanders are still around. If rape becomes legal, she will never be unchaperoned with a man she doesn’t want to sleep with. After several months of advertising this law throughout the land, rape would be virtually eliminated on the first day it is applied.”
          That’s from the article you’re referring. Do you think that really sounds like he is “pro-rape”? Sounds like he is advocating that women make better choices to minimize the risk of rape.

        3. “I’m sure some but not all of the members of this group follow him in their beliefs.”
          Please provide proof of your certainty other than the assertion itself.

    4. Let us know how you go when you manage to start being a fair, educated, well-adjusted human being. Thus far you seem to be failing pretty miserably at it as demonstrated by your posting.

  169. Roosh if you could, make and post a tab or compilation of all the wacko posts like ”I’m loading my guns” etc and even the fake ‘one post’ handles that make like they want to snipe on the locations or ambush people. Every feminist/activist/sjw group has some loose fringes, loose cannons and nuts that are kamikazis. I’ve personally faced screaming mobs and I look into their eyes. Some chant, they put on a ruse like a professional wrestler does. They’re skilled intimidators. I can see a fake elbow slam coming, more show for the cameras, but the unstable not jobs mingle with them. The leaders try to manage them all but they cover their own ass and disenfranchise themselves from the wackos when one gets brazen. Some of the protest outright threats are gov’t and foundation originated and some are genuine rogue shitsters.

    1. No they won’t. They ain’t got nothing better to do. This is the highlight of their lives.

    1. Roosh is a hate-magnet, much like beloved Donald Trump. Something about both seems to drive SJWs right over the edge.

  173. This is a great quote from your fb page “If women are so despicable why spend all you time in pursuit of them Roosh? Why not just leave us the hell alone? Why is the only way you can validate your own manhood through commenting on our lives and experiences? Can’t you focus on your own lives? Neomasculinity seems only be able to define itself through its relationships with women. Why not create a life for yourself? Are you so helpless in defining a seperate existence. Here’s a thought try focusing on building a career away from women. Your only claim to fame is the women you have slept with or raped. You owe your entire career to women. Lazy mooch. Without women what accomplishments have you accrued? You need women to fund your world and you call women co dependent. You are 100% dependent of women. Pathetic.”

  174. I can’t get a straight answer out of anyone, but does anyone have DEFINITIVE proof that Roosh has ever stated he is “pro-rape”? You can’t trust any sources anymore so I’m mainly looking for a link on RoK or something written by Roosh directly. In my opinion accusing someone of being pro-rape is a pretty big accusation, so I want some proof to all the headlines I’ve been seeing.

    1. Nope because he wrote a satirical (as in no serious) piece about rape. He is not pro rape. Never has been.

    2. About a year ago, Roosh wrote a piece satirizing “rape culture”, that was modeled on Thomas Swift’s “A Modest Proposal” (which was about utilizing the children of the poor as food). Neither Swift, nor Roosh, were being literal.
      Roosh explained this at the time:

  175. I must get this off my chest before I head to sleep:
    We have failed.
    I was highly anticipating this monumental day since I was chosen as a Hoboken host. The violent threats of the SJWs made me skittish, but I was confident that with the right security and precautions, we would be able to recreate the victories of Roosh’s world tour.
    The SJWs and media have denied us of our 1st amendment liberties, thus making it a major loss for neomasculinity. Nearly every great movement has been met with counter-resistance, and I knew neomasculinity would be no different. Saturday would have been the greatest victory in the history of the ‘sphere. We have allowed blue-haired feminists and their white-knight orbiters to defeat us. I cannot spin this into a positive in good conscience.
    Tonight I go to sleep broken, tail between my legs, denied of my first amendment rights, still in the shadows of the blue-pill matrix.

      1. I’ve been reading ROK far longer than you have, but a spade is a spade.
        Once we publicized the meetings and contacted the media, we needed to go through with it.

    3. It’s not over just yet I’m sure of it. Now that we have seen how the SJW work, we will be prepared next time. Guaranteed.

        1. Fascinating. Then I guess you’ll deploy your fearless self to Mulligans on Sat. Are you going to show up?

        2. Mulligans is a sausage-fest. Will most likely be hopping on Washington. Tally-Ho, or Black Bear. I have the best luck with the women at Tally.

        4. If it didn’t get cancelled, I would. I guess I’ll do my usual mating dance instead, who knows.

      2. I lived on Fifth and Jefferson as a child. Rough times. It made me into the man I am today.

    1. They’ll even attack women who disagree with their warped feminist narrative. Have you ever clicked on the Women Against Feminism thing? You should see the young women who’ve saved screen shots of feminist rebuking with a desire for them to get raped. It’s truly disgusting how mindless these people are.

  178. Fucking idiots believe that raping someone is okay?? The only creeps that think that is acceptable is men that can’t get any girls haha. Losers that have no friends.

    1. Mia, I still haven’t seen any “pro-rape” talk in the two years that I’ve been checking out this site. Please, point it out to me.

  179. what is even happening? i guess im happy this isnt going down im pretty sure this was illegal… if not it should be lol… spooks man

    1. No big surprise. Any speech which you don’t like/ disagree with should be illegal.
      You still haven’t discovered the news stories were a lie, have you?

        3. That’s all you say bitch you must really hate blacks ! Cracker !! Foh like I said hmu when you in philly Fuck boy

        4. That’s all I’m willing to waste my time with you primitives. No discussions. Waste of time.
          Listen you dumb nigger. I’d put a bullet dead center of your chest (because I actually have money and a career to buy rounds to practice with and legally carry conceal….so I’d get away with it….unlike you)…..But in your case…..you dumb nigger…..I’d keep it fist to cuffs. Fair (enough) fight….one on one…..which I know you dindus aren’t used to (you run in packs). BUT…I would beat your nigger ass like a nigger would. Beat you nice and retarded(if that’s possible) after I knock your weak ass out (I’m from a nigger town just outside of Detroit….not bragging….cause beating a nigger is zero cred….It’s easy). I’ve been jumped by as many as 15 niggers before (over some stupid sneakers) and survived. And you think your lowly ass is gonna beat me?! You live in a dream world nigger. Although, you primitive, I will thank you. Thank you niggers for being so wild and unpredictable and uncivil you made me totally race conscious and HAVE TO FIGHT (which I found out you things are faggots one on one….And you know it as well). And I understand the majority of whites are pussies these days. I really don’t blame ya for “thinking” you’re talking to one of those. Now go fuck yourself…..chimp out……get arrested…..mooch off the government…..smoke a blunt…..don’t see your kid…..get a STD…..and fuck a trashy white woman with “yo dick.” Whatever you do you loser…..who lives with cockroaches and rats and somehow thinks he’s tough and cool for it. You still here? I know this is a lot of reading for your kind. What it must be like…..waking up in the morning……thinking it was a bad dream….only to realize it wasn’t once you look in the mirror and the reality of you’re nightmare is very true; that you’re nothing but an ugly useless stinky big lipped nappy headed greasy going nowhere dirt poor lost nigger whose total “cool” persona is a pure act. It must suck. I’d be pissed off too….all the time….at whites (who built western civilization, fuck fine white women, and function just fine in it). Thats if I had the average (very low) IQ of the American nigger. If I had a higher IQ….it would make it worse cause I’d only have myself/race to blame. I’d probably off myself. Hmmmm…..Given this education I just gave you….You should kill yourself. Thats my advice. Record it. Put it on Best Gore for peoples entertainment. Please OFFER SOMETHING to society even if its just our amusement of your self inflicted death.
          Nigger

  181. Roosh is one of the most lucid of the current generation of mantivists. His interview with Ezra Levant (on youtube) was brilliant.

  182. What’s happeneing is all these fags are trying to cover up them being gay. Rooch sucked my dick senior year in highschool so this must be a cover up.

    1. But you enjoyed it so much you now have buttless chaps and too many tubes of hemorrhoid cream and lip balm to explain.

  183. Dang, I heard there were trucks chock full of Kratom idling at the meetup spots. And I signed up early for the Mike Chang lecture. I really wanted to develop at least 2 abs.

    1. Damn. You blew our cover. Now the whole world knows that this is just all about a drug cartel.

    2. I’m showing up anyway and I’m bringing my thermos – – full of extra strong ice cold kratom tea to share with the bros.

        1. No you missing the point my nigga. But divorce rape has reached epioemic proportions in the west.

      2. Iced tea + Kratom = arm wrestling Superman and winning on an off day. Good call mate. Don’t mind if I do.

  184. Sounds to me like this group is a bunch of horny losers who can’t talk to women or get sex so the only thing they can do is rape people. Return of the Fags is what I’m calling them now lol! Start the movement – Return of the Fags.

  186. A damn shame. I hope we try again, though. I don’t fear leftoids. Bring them on to our meetups. Many of us carry. Most of us are strong and can fight.
    I’d love to meet some of these faggots that try to treaten. Weak, pathetic little cucks. They’re only brave if they outnumber you 10 to 1 and have cops backing them up.

  187. Soothing words from the Qur’an:
    It is He who sent down tranquillity into the hearts of the believers that they would increase in faith along with their [present] faith. And to Allah belong the soldiers of the heavens and the earth, and ever is Allah Knowing and Wise.

  188. To be courageous requires a man to accept necessary risks, develop controls for them, and continue despite the threat of danger. This would have been an historic day for the movement (it still might be for the wrong reason). An event of this magnitude or greater must happen soon for the movement to claim any semblance of bravery and masculinity.

    2. Okay but what’s up with the whole legalize rape thing? That makes you seem completely deranged.

      2. There is no “legalize rape” thing. You have been fed a lie. This community is one of men striving continually to be better, more masculine, men. Sometimes that means discussing how we interact with women but nobody here advocates sexual violence against women.

        1. “I thought about this problem and am sure I have the solution: make rape legal if done on private property. I propose that we make the violent taking of a woman not punishable by law when done off public grounds.” – Roosh

        2. Jonathan Swift wrote that we could solve our hunger problems by eating homeless people. Do you really think he was a cannibal?

        3. Swift was mocking rich people’s attitudes towards poor people. What is Roos mocking exactly? Laws against rape?
          Also I don’t buy that his article was satire – he said it was a “thought experiment”, which is basically all writing. His logic makes as much sense as saying that murder should be legal because that would make people more careful not to be murdered.

        4. If you don’t get it you probably never will. This isn’t the place for you. I’m sure there is a place for you over at Jezebel or HuffPo or some “he for she” Reddit. I invite you now to leave here and go where you’re wanted.

        5. i think he likes to shock so he wrote the article, then intense backlash made him backtrack and claim it’s a ‘thought experiment”, and his cult member-ike followers claimed it’s satire, but can’t even say what it’s satirizing. Can you say what it’s satirizing? If I said that murder should be legal because it would make people more careful about being murdered, is that satire or just a shocking thing to say, like how shock jocks get attention?

        6. What he satirized is the notion of “victim blaming.” Its a purposefully controversial satire of that notion because that notion only exists for the crime of rape (which is why your example of murder wouldn’t work). Read it again. If it doesn’t make sense after my explanation than this just isn’t the place for you.

        7. Wrong, the concept can exist for any crime. Legalize theft so people look after their property better. Legalize assault so people will be more careful not to get assaulted. Legalize child rape so parents will be more careful with their kids. It’s as nonsensical for those crimes as it is for rape. Also he’s not satirizing victim-blaming, he’s doing it!

        8. Whatever you say dude. Like I said, Jezebel or HuffPo more down your alley. You don’t belong here

        9. Sorry, I didn’t realize that parts of the internet were off limits. You might want to consider that you’re being played by a snake oil salesman who peddles shock to resentful men who contort themselves into pretzel shapes trying to defend his terrible “thought experiments”. Good luck.

  189. Its a known fact that gays, women, jews, muslims, transgenders, sherpas, swedes, blacks, lesbians, heathens, eskimos, fags, whores, mexicans, degenerates, leftits, marxists, atheists, agnostics, and liberals in general use name-calling to get their points across. So call them names! Be as angry and condescending as possible!

  190. The men who read this website are complete and utter losers. They can’t even get laid, let alone have healthy interactions with real women and strong, independent women. ROK readers probably all live in their mom’s basement and are still virgins.
    ROK readers are likely also anti-Semites. I’ve read the ROK article about Jewish feminism. If you think you can stop the Jews from subverting your countries, you losers are sadly mistaken.

    2. One would think that a hideous jewess like yourself can at least be a little more original in the insult department…smh.

    4. You can’t possibly be full blooded…..I mean AT LEAST they come up with better insults than that.

    5. I do expect more from a Jew when they are trolling, this is really poor and unoriginal work. “Mom’s basement”, “Virgins”, that’s what they said about guys who played Dungeons and Dragons and watched Star Trek.
      You should have waited for a couple of combative replies before going to antisemitism. You guys used to use that as your trump card, now you lead with it like it’s an off-suit 9.

    1. Probably not a good idea. All the left wing extremists are threatening to attack anyone who shows up.

    2. Stay away from these losers, Maria.
      Find yourself a nice refugee from Syria or North Africa who can properly love you.

    5. No. There are no male spaces left. Everywhere you go, from the deepest ocean (nuclear submarines) to the highest heights (Spec Ops HALO coming soon) to the darkest corners (Cigar bars) to the most intimately private (men’s sports locker rooms) there is nowhere left where a man can go to be a man without some ninny minding after his language and behavior.

  194. It’s going to be so nice when masculine men are completely gone from Europe and America. Feminism and the “refugee crisis” have worked wonders in getting rid of you White losers for good.
    And don’t even think about joining the “alt. Right” or other such loser movements. You can’t stop multiculturalism, the homosexual agenda, feminism, and our control over the mainstream media.
    Get over it.

    3. Ok princess. Do tour turnaround now that you’re at the end of the runway catwalk. We see all sides of you now.

    4. Amen Sister. We will herd the goyim into the labor camps from which they will never escape. They shall be our mental slaves.

    5. Too obvious now, you are a fake, looking to bait. Should have left it at your first post, but you gave yourself away.

      1. Checked out the page. I can see. Was searching for pro-rape anything anywhere. Turns out my female fb friends were all up in arms about nothing 😆

        1. That’s why I got of FB ages ago. Nothing but people getting riled up and virtue signalling.

      1. Can you imagine how upset ppl would be if the feminists had to cancel a meet up bc of safety concerns? hahahaha

        2. That wouldn’t happen. The current economy needs feminists, single straight masculine men they can do without because we don’t feed this consumer economy enough for its survival.

        3. Yes, this website supports a strong natalist policy. Part of the anger surrounds the fact that our corrupt elite would rather push women into jobs instead of encouraging them to have more children so no women would need to be in the workforce. This website is more Nationalist than it is Capitalist.

    6. We’ve never had one but I imagine we would do what men do when alone without women: drink, talk shit, laugh, out-do one another in witty jokes, provoke and offend one another.
      “As Iron Sharpens Iron.” Look that phrase up some time.

  196. It’s the last shrill cry of feminists. They’ve invited in and are sucking off the invaders, betraying the men who built the civilization they were blessed to be born in. Their freedoms are soon to be destroyed by the very non-whites they cheered and heralded as an alternative to the evil whiteness of their own brothers, fathers, sons, neighbors.
    There will be no money for them, no man, not even the homos, anywhere near them for protection. It’s all collapsing much, much faster than they know. All sides are closing in. No one, no men, anywhere, want anything to do with feminism anymore. It has all but destroyed itself. Its adherents are lashing out. They can feel the end nearing, they know they are trapped in a corner. They just don’t realize it’s one of their own making.
    Good riddance.

    1. “It’s the last shrill cry of feminists.”
      What does “it” refer to in that sentence?

      1. The triggering and shrieking from the harpies and their beta androgynes over this meetup, along with the convergence of all their media allies.
        It’s near the end. It’ll be all over for them in 5-10 years. My bet is closer to 5.

  197. This the reached Texas governor, and he jumped to conclusions calling this a “rape club” probably never having read the site himself. “Traditional” Texas has been cucked…

  198. Thats probably for the best. I was gonna show up and beat your ass into the ground. Just because you cant get a piece of ass, it should be legal to FORCE YOURSELF ON SOMEONE?! FUCK YOU! Since you wanna make rape legal, how about I get one of my big ol’ burly gay friends to come with me down to Atlanta (yes, i know exactly where Piedmont Park is) and forcibly butt rape your asshole? Make you get fuckin stitches because your shit is all tore up. Fuck you, dude. You are a piece of shit.

    3. >how about I get one of my big ol’ burly gay friends to come with me down to Atlanta (yes, i know exactly where Piedmont Park is) and forcibly butt rape your asshole?
      For a guy who is against rape, you seem to be…promoting rape.
      Roosh’s piece was a satire, in the same way that Thomas Swift’s “A Modest Proposal” was a satire. Here is Roosh explaining it himself:

        1. I know. I do that so I can tell if people really look it up. But thanks for playing, we have some lovely parting gifts, etc.

    5. “Since you wanna make rape legal, how about I get one of my big ol’ burly gay friends to come with me down to Atlanta”
      Typical woman. Still has to get a man to do her work for her.

  199. SJWs denigrate Roosh because he is Middle-Eastern, which contradicts their so-called tolerance toward strict Muslim values. They wouldn’t whine as much if he were black, but would be praising his “vibrancy” and oversized tool.

  200. Looks like you’ve been successfully “shut down” losers.
    You’ll never take the “red pill”. You’re like sheep around here. We don’t even have to hide the fact that we control every aspect of your society anymore.
    To any strong women reading this awful thread, you should really consider dating a Syrian or North African refugee. White men are all rapists and abusers. You can’t trust them.

      1. What act?
        Europe is in the process of being overrun (and soon America), and you can’t even have a meetup to discuss the most basic of issues.
        You lose.

    4. Very articulate. Reading your post has made me a much wiser man. Please, stick around. We’d love to have you share more of your pithy wit.

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