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Can A Man Who Has Slept With Hundreds Of Girls Still Be Considered A Good Person?

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If there is a secret sauce to game, something close to what the shysters and the scam artists promise when they talk of making you irresistible to women, then it is closely affiliated with the dark triad characteristics (narcissism, Machiavellianism and psychopathy) and the consequent state they beget, that of drama.

The very best players that I have observed, those whose actions have moistened panties from London to Las Vegas and back again, have all had these characteristics in spades. And just look at famous examples of criminals like Jeremy Meeks who women flock to.

As such—-and because we are by now all more than aware that ‘nice guys finish last’—-an important ethical question stands out, namely, is it actually possible to be a good guy who is also supremely good with women? I believe that one can maintain a strong set of core principles while acting in ways that are effective if ruthless, but that this approach requires very careful vigilance and is also not without its risks.

My Own Experience

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Having been writing about game for some time now, I find myself sometimes questioning the rights and wrongs of what I am doing, as more and more I seem to be advising readers to use more Machiavellian or ‘dark triad’ tactics to achieve their goals. Is that because I am a cruel and heartless individual who doesn’t care a toss for the feelings of others? No, it is simply because, having studied pickup and male-female sexual dynamics for many years, both from my own perspective and by observing others, I have a pretty good idea of what works and what doesn’t.

My own personal experience is not atypical for a pick-up writer. While I would argue that I was never entirely ‘blue pill’ (it is hard to live through your parents’ divorce and then observe your stepmother’s’ mistreatment and eventual divorcing of your father and hold all your dreams of the wonders of romance intact), I was nonetheless a basic nice guy who didn’t see any action with girls all the way through to age 20.

When I did eventually get laid with that first girl (a decent blonde who has since been marred by the birth of her two children, divorce and a Botox addiction), it was because I developed a strongly cocky funny sense of humour almost combative in its intensity. I would like to say that it was because I had suddenly become game-aware and had figured out for myself what worked. In fact it was by default, a by-product of strong antidepressant medication that sent me off the charts loopy for a while swigged down with a liberal dose of alcohol.

While this is certainly not a method that I would recommend to anyone reading this at home, the physiological ravages that were taking place in my mind as a result of various battling chemicals had one pant-wettingly happy consequence: they made me really not give a fuck what anyone thought of me. And even more than that, they spurred me on to flaunt my quirks at others in a bid to provoke them.

Having always been somewhat analytical and therefore possessing a propensity towards Machiavellianism, I was now, through no conscious strategy of my own, ticking the ‘narcissistic’ and ‘psychopathic’ boxes as well. Perhaps unsurprisingly, this bonfire of my vanities presaged what was to be the most sexually bountiful season of my life.

I should underline the point that all of this was entirely untutored and unplanned. It was before the manosphere, the red pill, even before I’d read a single book on pickup. Things turned out the way they did due to my somewhat liberal doctors and my burgeoning taste for hard liquor, and I was fortunate enough to reap the benefits of a righteous pussy harvest.

Of course, things soon calmed down. My medication was changed, and I later gave up drinking as well. But due to a narcotic interval that likely most men do not experience I was able to see for myself the way in which unbridled arrogance, rudeness, sottishness and bad behaviour, far from repulsing women in fact turned them into quivering and grateful recipients of the errant manboy’s love gloop.

My experiences at this time stayed with me and became elemental in the framework that was only strengthened and bolstered by my subsequent study of manosphere texts and my adventures in the field of pickup.

My Thoughts On The Dark Triad Now

Many years later and I am an infinitely more responsible, together and organised person than at that time. But the lessons I learned back them about the effectiveness of the dark triad have not gone to waste since I can now playact them at will. They are simply different colours on my pickup artists palette that I employ to colour my interactions with as and when the time is right.

Wherever you are in the game, whether a newbie or an experienced player I recommend that you do the same. You don’t have to kick down the doors of perception to alter your behaviours around women. These days there are a great many helpful resources out there that discuss the dark triad characteristics in great detail, and show how their application can be beneficial to the committed poon hound.

While it can be tempting for a guy new to red pill thinking to want to go full on dark triad in a kind of ‘fuck bitches, I’ll show them’ manner, not only is this supremely butthurt but it is also effectively impossible as you can’t just acquire these traits, particularly psychopathy which is clearly a very distinct mental condition.

Far better for the average guy to be aware of the impact that these characteristics can have on his game and sprinkle them liberally on his interactions where appropriate, but retaining enough self-control to pull back when they no longer serve his purposes. As with most things in life you want to find balance, that sweet spot where equilibrium supports rather than destabilises your dreams.

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574 thoughts on “Can A Man Who Has Slept With Hundreds Of Girls Still Be Considered A Good Person?”

  1. Male players burn out and get used up in a similar (but not as destructive fashion) as female sluts.
    Whereas the slut will go nuts and self-destruct, the male player becomes weary and cynical and will need a change of direction in life to retain purpose.
    Men get away with it for longer. But no-one is immune. The relatively short time I spent playing the field was probably good for sharpening my tools for real life, but much longer would have damaged me like the damaged mates I have.
    Think about The Picture of Dorian Gray.
    Of all people, Oscar Wilde’s warning of the effects of a lifetime s hedonism

    1. While I can see this as being true for some, even many, male players it simply isn’t the case for all.
      I think men get into the game for different reasons. Like Troy points out here, some are just in it to exact revenge on women. Some just want to get pussy. Some were nerds and got rejected a lot and are looking to find something in themselves and all of these types (and many more) probably suffer from the burn out you speak of. On the other hand, I am 3 decades into this and not only do I not feel any burn out, I still get excited like a school boy when I go out womanizing or when I close a new deal. I am just constituted in such a way that commitment, love and that kind of stuff doesn’t matter to me….rather, natality and excitement mean everything. Further, I am not alone in this. I have met others, not a lot but some, who just genuinely like this lifestyle.
      I have often said that I feel least lonely when I am all by myself. When I am alone I feel truly free and happy. I think this plays a part in it. If I came home from work and a solid 9 was dressed to kill holding my dinner waiting to suck my cock while I ate it when I got there I would be annoyed….not happy. This isn’t right or wrong or good or bad, it is just me and just to point out that there are some exceptions to the burn out rule.

      1. I agreed there’s outliers. There are in everything.
        Quite sure you’re one of them, but just like most men aren’t equipped physically or psychologically to scale Everest, neither are they gonna survive four decades of the field without putting a shotgun in their mouth

        1. I’m not sure he said he’s an outlier. I’m the same and I’m not having any problems. S’all good here G.

        5. …I’m finding that many of the RoK articles are beginning to repeat themselves…”
          Yes but the comments are what keeps me coming back!

      2. I don’t know about game, but if I think about it I would agree with a lot of this.
        I think women are for things you don’t want to do with friends or family. Sure, I like when they cook and clean and that kind of hearth & home thing but that isn’t something I need one wearing a ring to get done.
        I require commitment/loyalty in subs, but in most normal LTR you are getting play what percentage of the time? The other non-sex stuff is too much like a chore with most girls.
        Then again I only do one nights when I go on extended trips. The trio back home are still entertaining enough, they keep the place tidy, they come when I call, and leave when it’s time. Simple and no burn out for 13 years now.

        2. Funny you say that GS. I am fond of saying I have no idea about game either. I don’t have that club in my bag…I have others that get me laid a lot, but not “game” the way it is described here. I am as far from a PUA as is possible.
          I couldn’t agree more about “chore” stuff with most things. As for dating, I do like it when it is new….when the girl is asking you about you, hanging on your words, hasn’t heard your stories or jokes yet, doesn’t know who you are and you go out and dazzle them…I like that…that is for me, not them. Cooking and cleaning? Fuck that, I cook for myself or have dozens of restaurants I like…cleaning? I am actually a bit OCD so my place is always immaculate and I have a weekly maid who does all the scrubbing that annoys me and she costs FAR less than a woman. With very few exception (1 in the last few years) there is an 8 week timer on women from the moment my cock goes in them.
          As for loyalty, I get the desire conceptually but I don’t have it. When I am not physically with a woman I don’t care what or who she is doing. That kind of stuff never bothered me.

        4. I tried that with my pet Yorkie but he ran across the road and got crushed by a refuse truck.

        5. The whole Master/sub thing is inexorably linked to my personality, I’m okay with that.
          I agree too, that there is something worthwhile in the newness factor, it tells many helpful things and sets up a direction for the following “interactions” as well as establishing the rules & roles at the outset.

        6. If it doesn’t return, hunt it down and kill it.

        7. That’s weird, you’d think the driver would refuse to do that.

        9. someone I was talking to the other day and explaining how I like to take a girl out who hasn’t heard my stories yet commented, and correctly so, that my delivery must be excellent from telling them so often. It is true, you get better with practice. I do so enjoy the honeymoon phase of the relationship.

        13. I sort of see it as an artisan with a goodly portion of clay.
          Sure, sometimes there are going to be some errors, but just get it moist again and handle it.

        17. Agreed. Once I switched from an iguana to a pooch, I started meeting more chicks at the park

        18. I rescued a dog from a girl that didn’t give him enough exercise. The dog goes on runs with me and looks like Chewbacca. Anywhere I take him girls come up to me. It’s absolutely magical.

        21. Same here, an almost 40 year old guy here and went through a player phase (probably not nearly as successful as you or Troy), but you learn things about yourself the more women you cycle through, when you discover what they respond to, and so on. For me, maybe it is a combination of veering toward middle age, having slept with dozens of American women, playing the part of effectively entertaining them in exchange for brief spurts of physical pleasure while enduring their frequent infantile meltdowns and childish behavior (not that great of an exchange after a while) and just burning out on the fact that chasing (or being chased by) women is a huge time sink. Not sure about you guys, but another effect of becoming somewhat of a player is getting bored with women quickly (and maybe people in general), in the sense that after a few dates, or lays, I can predict virtually everything they will say or do or even how they will intersect in bed and then will want to cycle to a new chick. It is like anything in life, fun when starting out or learning about it, but quickly becomes a mundane grind after a while.

        23. Yeah, we’re in the same place. I zeroed out on women in the summer of 2015, when I was juggling five different women, sometimes sleeping with all of them in a single week. It wasn’t too much fun after a while, plus I was losing focus on my work.
          Women are a side dish in the feast of life, not the main course.

        24. True, true. And let me add, deep man. I let you know how it goes in the not too distant future. Start attending séances in about 15 years.

        27. RE: 8 week timer
          I’m the same. Do you get annoyed and stop messaging them? Any regrets years later? (ie: ” I should have kept her on rotation”)

        29. There Have been some and after a year I might bring one back even, who knows. I can think of a few I was sorry to cut loose but that’s the game

      3. Good for you. I am on the north side of 60 and I burned out some time in the past that I can no longer put a finger on. It just crept up on me. The thought of ever having to deal with the standard western woman in a meat market SMP makes me want to vomit. If you can still find it exciting then keep on keeping on. I’d rather read a good book, or even a bad one.

      4. I think someone who has learned to be happy on their own, spend say Christmas or New Years on their own and be content and comfortable in their own space has basically won in life before they even step outside their front door…. what’s more is that the man who has achieved that state and very very few women can achieve that state because women need constant company and attention – that man may well become damaged and confounded if he tries to enter into typical ‘normal’ life, with too much social circle, friends, family and etc. … not to say he’s a loner but he values his space and peace as his own private rock and is happy and content to retreat back into it, for weeks at a time as he pleases – then being able to step back out and be socialable and social as he pleases. This is the real victory that comes from being a ‘game’ / ‘sales’ / red pill type. You fit in when needed you retreat and disappear as you please – neither is a crutch or disadvantage.
        People especially women and weaker men will try to pull you out of that mode and drag you into their busy and yet terribly uncomfortable and lonely world and in that world you will become much as they are – probably worse – tired, depressed, lonely and thwarted. The ability to spend time alone is the foundation that any real man needs to work on first. The rest then comes naturally, provided being alone is not being done out of depression or weakness (ie. too lame to socialize).

        1. Everything you say here truly resonates with me. What I have done to combat that damage, by the way, is to become a “personality” that I am at work, in social situations like restaurants and bars, etc. there is lolknee and the lolknee show and the lolknee show is what the world gets…when I close my door and am alone at home (or have my headphones on at the gym or ride my bike in the park etc) I feel most comfortable because all outward facade is totally dropped.
          What you say about “damage” from being that way is true, but it is a manageable damage.
          Nice comment

        2. You’d fit right in, in Japan.
          Honne and tatemae are Japanese words that describe the contrast between a person’s true feelings and desires (本音 hon’ne, “true sound”) and the behavior and opinions one displays in public (建前 tatemae, “built in front”, “façade”).

        3. Interesting. Short of cuisine I know precious little about Japan.

      5. Agreed. Never lived with a girl, or gave one my keys. Longest relationship ever was 8 months. Once a year I try to stay with one chick for a few days straight… fucking hate it! Just last week a girl showed up with her backpack and tried to stay for 4 nights.
        I faked an emergency and told she had to leave a day early. I’ll probably never see her again. Annoyed the shit out of me. She was sitting there on her phone looking at youtube while i was getting work done, practicing guitar, reading… women are like children to me. They can be entertaining for a few hours, but I don’t want to own one!

    5. It doesn’t matter if it’s game, business, research or life in general. I think we die a bit when we realize a piece of life can be fully understood, shaped and manipulate to the desired outcome. What is the point without mystery, it’s nothing but living day to day with nothing to look forward to.

    6. And what’s the alternative choice for these innocent NON players? Roll the dice on true love and face the 70% chance of divorce?
      Or jerk off every day alone to keep one’s ability to care for others in-tact? (which you might lose anyway with age…)
      If a man (or woman) wants to enjoy their life, they can’t ignore their primal instincts. If you want to be a part of something greater and be the bigger man, or leader… cross that bridge when you get to it.
      Or wait till your dick stops working at 55, then dedicate your life to God.

    7. I also spent a “relatively short” time truly playing the field and wish it had been just that bit longer..

    8. “Every saint has a past, and every sinner has a future.”
      ― Oscar Wilde

  2. Can anybody be considered a good person…what is the standard…who decides…isn’t it all subjective…what you are is not what you were, nor is it what you are becoming. Yes, this and many other great mysteries of life keep me awake at night…for a “good” 10 seconds or so.

    1. To me, “good” is a relative term. It all depends on whose lens you are looking through, really. I view life through my own lens, and most people hate this. These types NEED to be led, told what do to, and how to live. Most of the feedback I get from others when I talk about my lifestyle is an onslaught of shaming language and masked regret about their own life situations. Your average sheeple has not a clue about how to live life on their own terms and needs religion, TV, pop music, or Hollywood productions to give them examples of how to live the “model” life.
      The day I stopped seeking approval from others was the day my life improved exponentially.

      1. I am with you razorhoof. Have a set of principles and be true to yourself. Opinions on morality and assholes…..everyone has them and all of them stink….they can keep em

        1. “I am with you razorhoof.”
          I will follow you to the inner realm of Barfour I will. Ni ni ni!

      2. Damn straight. As a wise man said, Fuck ’em and give ’em a dollar.

      3. “The day I stopped seeking approval from others was the day my life improved exponentially.”
        This should be bronzed! In did this in my early 20’s and was rewarded immediately in life..
        If you actively pursue things that others, especially family members, don’t approve of, you’re probably on the right track..
        Mostly it’s because they don’t have the guts to try something new.
        That’s really what Sheeple are about..
        They crave acceptance and fitting in whereas a truly contented man likely doesn’t give a fuck about such nonsense..

    2. If we define good in terms of strict survival of the species there are few hard and fast things I’d say are good, but yes, most things are subjective to your culture and upbringing.

      1. I’ve seen the species…I am not sure anyone can define its survival as “good” with a straight face lol

        2. well I will round up all the morons for ya then.

        5. Definition of Cynic:
          Someone that smells flowers and looks for the casket.

      2. I’ve been musing a bit of late on the difference between conditionality and subjectivity. From a broad view of the world’s cultures and religions, we find that most of those things we consider “good” are held in common (as always, there are exceptions).
        So, we can say that morality is conditional (it is one way but could be another), but not subjective (in that there seems to be something that tends to make it one way and not another).
        Still kind of turning this idea over in my head, but I think it’s got possibilities.
        EDIT: On reflection, I should have said “morality is conditional (it can be one way or another) but not subjective (it tends to be one way).”

    3. Yes it’s all subjective. Unless you believe in God. In fact what you’re talking about is something discussed by philosophers and is known as the moral argument for the existence of God (not necessarily Christian).

    4. If you are going to invoke subjectivity into the definition of morality, then you’re on the same side as the feminists, regressive liberals, Sodomites, et al.
      As a starting point, we live in a moral reality. In other words, morality is not merely an abstract concept; it is woven into the entropy of the human experience. But how can we know what is absolutely morally correct in any given scenario? We can’t, absent a Moral Absolute. Gentlemen, I give you: the Word of God.
      The Bible claims and defines absolute moral authority. So we can assuredly say that “Sodomy is vile” or “murder is evil” because the Moral Absolute declares it so.
      But it also reveals the natural human mind’s shortcomings when faced with the Moral Absolute. That is to say, mankind falls inherently far short of what God defines as morally “good”; this is why atheism, false religion, fornication and everything else that pleases the natural mind are so popular. But it’s also why humanity stands condemned by the Absolute Moral standard.
      So what is a “good person”? Only one man ever held that standing, and he did so from the beginning. The rest of us can only be called “good” if we begin to cordially acknowledge and start conforming to the Moral Absolute, that is, if we start to love God and our fellow humans selflessly. Of course, none of us can ever do so perfectly in this life, hence the need for the imputation of that perfect man’s goodness to our account, but until we die we can begin to be a little like him – if we are given that new heart that loves the Moral Absolute.
      Everyone else, no matter how ostensibly decent, smart, helpful, and so on, cannot be called a “good person”. Horrible news, maybe. But the truth is rough.

    5. I’ve never killed anyone, yet. I think that makes me a good person.

      1. Or maybe it doesn’t. What if somebody really needed a good killin’? Then you’ve let him, and society, down.
        Think next time, man, think!

        1. You assume I’ve ever met someone that really needed a good killing.
          I also never said that I would never kill anyone, I said that I haven’t killed anyone “yet” which leaves open the possibility that, should I meet someone who really needs a good killing, I might kill them.
          I have thought about this more than you think I have thought about it.

        2. Suburban dude: “Well at least you haven’t killed anybody.”
          Curly: “Day ain’t over yet”

        3. I had the same exchange with a certain “Savage” individual we both know….

        6. I have to admit… I’ve never quite gotten over that, myself.

    6. Culture is religion externalized. Someone would not have asked that question several hundred years ago when the standard would have automatically been understood as Biblical morality in the West. Today we have humanism, which leaves man to decide for himself what is “good” based on man’s own fickle nature at any given time. We also reap the whirlwind of societal plagues that accompany humanism.
      Still, regardless what standard one chooses to embrace, humans will always pass judgment for good and evil and based on truth and lies. “Damned if you do, damned if you don’t”. Jesus, whether you are a person of faith or not, is the account of a man who never sinned and did no wrong, yet He was history’s most famous example of a slandered, libeled, and defamed Man.
      When it comes to what degenerate people think, as my wise old granny would say, “They can go take a flyin’ leap”. The flip side of this coin is embodied in the following timeless principles:
      “Iron sharpens iron, So one man sharpens another.” – Proverbs 27:17
      “Do not reprove a scoffer, or he will hate you, Reprove a wise man and he will love you.” – Proverbs 9:8
      “Faithful are the wounds of a friend, But deceitful are the kisses of an enemy.” – Proverbs 27:6

  3. Are there examples of apex PUAs who go on to have one good marriage and happy, well-adjusted children with that wife and only that wife? Not being argumentative, just inquiring. Of the famous PUAs, I can’t think of any.

    1. Apex? Dunno. I think Mystery took it in the shorts hard, turned into what appears to be a real slumped shoulder wuss bag, married to a 6.5, last I saw.
      Roosh isn’t married. Heartiste isn’t either. I don’t know the status of Dalrock.
      Oh, almost forgot, Rollo over at The Rational Male is married with at least one kid.

      1. Rollo was my first thought, too, but I don’t know that I would consider him an apex “PUA”. Maybe an apex Game philosopher, but his shit is like next level, not just PUA stuff.

        1. Oh sure. His first year or two had a lot of PUA-ish type stuff though if I remember. Yeah, he’s way more into the introspective analysis of society than turning guys into pussy hounds, but he does (did) have a track record of success with women employing manosphere principles, and he is now married, so that’s the closest I can get to giving 270 a positive example.

        3. I was thinking along the lines of original PUAs like David D’Angelo, Ross Jeffries, etc… pure pick up, like Mystery. I’d put Rollo in a more red pill philosopher category with Dalrock. Neil Strauss isn’t doing well. “The Game” was a masterpiece, but “The Truth” was just sad. Tucker Max actually has a wife and kid. Anyway, good responses here.

        2. actually morlock. but balrog would also have been good.

      4. Dalrock, I believe, has been married for a while based on his site tagline.
        Also, the Blackdragon blog guy (name escapes me) was married, got divorced (and actually has more spending money now, oddly), and now has some sort of harem setup with one main long-term relationship.

    2. a real question here is for those who don’t whether it is that they can’t or they have realized that a wife and family is just a hobby they don’t enjoy. I ask myself this sometime. If I wanted to get married could I? I think so. I think if I really wanted it. But marriage and procreation are like crossfit….some people like it, some people don’t and everyone involve is insufferable when they talk about it.
      For me it simply isn’t a pastime I am interested in

  4. “To reap the benefits of a righteous pussy harvest.” I lol’d.

  5. Very nice introspective article Troy. I find that, like you, after many years of enjoying the —- single lifestyle — that one tends to ask oneself a lot of questions. I am pleased with my answers for myself and like yours. I would warn people about falling into the trap of thinking about being a “good person” as “good” means less than week old piss. Instead I would suggest one to be true to themselves and not worry about falling in line with some kind of absurd notion of morality or good and bad which is thrust down our throats like so many German sausages.
    Nice work bud

    1. Yeah, good and weak have to be distinguished clearly. Unfortunately in a dumb cuck society this is a challenge

      1. it is. it may even be a challenge in any society….these are not uncomplicated issues. That said, the idea that there is some form of objective morality that I OUGHT to adhere to is just nonsense.

        1. Very true. All civilisations wrestled the quandary … how to be good AND strong.

  6. The Dark Triad behavior is not a prerequisite for a man who wants to get what he wants from a woman.
    You know pretty well that you cannot act all the life like the Devil and still hold a respectful family, given that you’re, eventually, going to marry at 25 and want to persevere unto death. Generally if you have a genuine love toward a true Bible believing Christian girl she’ll learn to respect you, and, following like dominoes, your children will inevitably revere you as supreme emperor of the house, because they are subject to their mother, who is subordinate to her husband.
    Without masculine (true) love, the patriarchal family structure would just be a despotic, leaning-to-cuckold one, due to the cherished female disrespect and the easy way towards divorce in this lawless society. And that’s only talking about the woman who’ll lose her soul for the carousel that you failed to hide away from her. A more problematic issue is your account concerning the socially impotent boys and the daughters of iniquity that you’ll create.

  7. In lieu of acting like a “psychopath,” you should simply develop an internal “switch” that you hit when you encounter something that doesn’t align with your personal values. From a surface observation, this could be construed as psychopathy to any onlookers, and it will almost certainly seem that way to any woman you develop any sort of arrangement with.
    I always go into every interaction with a woman with the mindset that I could potentially care about her — that she has something good to offer and will come at me with good intentions. If that is the case, then I will see it as such and give her the benefit of the doubt.
    However, the second I encounter anything — and I mean any-fucking-thing — that isn’t satisfactory, I flip the “switch.” She makes the transition from someone I could potentially care about into a slab of meat for me to stick my cock in. Nothing more and nothing less. And as a slab of meat she isn’t entitled to a God damn thing. I will fuck her the way I want to fuck her — if she gets off, whatever, if she doesn’t, whatever. She will get nothing from me other than the absolute bare minimum it takes to get my nut. That is all. (I should mention that it usually takes about 15 minutes at most to encounter something I deem unsatisfactory. It doesn’t take long to spot a loser.)
    Now, if she has a problem with any of this? Fuck off, get out, find a guy who gives you what you need. If she makes demands of any sort? Kick rocks, bitch — your mouth is for sucking my dick, not for puking out your “expectations.” Anything to do with her life is paid no attention. I’m not interested in hearing about that bitch Katie at work; Zoe the cat’s yeast infection; potted plants; ex boyfriends; lower back pain; lower back tattoos; why pinot noir over cabernet savignon — fuck all of that. Talk about that shit with your girlfriends and orbiters.
    I simply do not care, because caring takes effort, and effort is only expended on people who are worth a shit. Women who aren’t worth a shit get put on 90-day probation. But unlike most jobs, there is no permanent position at the end of those 90 days. It’s always a temp job; they are always, and without question, terminated; laid the fuck off; gone. This is regardless of their “performance.”
    This is accomplished by establishing hard rules for what you want. There is no negotiating these rules — they are concrete and unwavering. You don’t make exceptions because “the pussy is good.” You don’t give free passes because “dem titties, yo.” You make these rules when you’re single, when your mind is clear and there are no influences that can change your mind (i.e., good pussy multiple times a day; love bombing and flattery, etc.). You make up your mind and you stick to it, no matter what.
    That sounds psychopathic, doesn’t it? Well, it isn’t. I respect people who are respectable. The only thing that can result from such a mindset is having no respect for women, because 99% of women are anything but respectable. This is what women wanted and they got it. And if you think this mindset of not caring and treating women like nothing won’t get you laid…. LOL.

    1. Lot of sympathy with this given modern day cum buckets.
      But do you ever worry you’ll cross the event horizon with this and be unable to give a shit about anyone, down the line?

      1. That’s a good question, Lucas, and the answer is I know I can give a shit about people if they are worth a shit.
        I have a lot of love and respect for my parents and a few other select individuals in my life. I deeply care about these people, and know I could give the same to a good woman (and my children, should that come).
        Now, whether that happens or not — I do not know. If I’m being completely honest with you and with myself, it probably won’t. I have plans to relocated overseas when I have all of my ducks in a row, and will see what I can accomplish at that time.
        On the whole, I’m pretty content. So I’m open to whatever may come.

        1. Good stuff. Yep, overseas seems sensible. If single I’d be on that boat, so to speak

        2. You have something good coming your way but you shouldn’t be running away and relocating overseas if you want to receive it.

        3. Yo AV! Can you please break down “Women love winners and women love losers. It’s the guys in the middle that they can’t fucking stand”.
          What is the man in the middle exactly? Is he like a guy with a regular job but not balling? Is he just the boring nice guy? This has always bugged me and i’m curious. Thanks bro!!!!

        4. You nailed it — it means basically what you said. You can be a jobless, criminal low-life with a neck tattoo, a drug habit, and no future and women will love you if you have game (loser); you can have your shit together and have a fat income, nice place, car, etc., and women will love you if you have game(winner). But, if you’re just an average joe — you’re Mr. Play-it-safe and don’t rock the boat, work hard for an average income, don’t do anything exciting, etc. — then you’re a man in the middle. You’re going to have a hard time getting women, especially if you have no game.

      2. Down the line. I’m a bit more down the line than most here. Here’s my perspective.
        I think that over time you naturally come to care less about the people and world around you in a general sense. You have your habits that are well formed, and the company you keep are judged by a much higher set of criteria OR they have existed since you were younger, either or. You literally stop giving a shit what anybody thinks most of the time, except close family and friends, and even then you’re more prone to say “fuck it” and do what you want. The opinions of others, to me, are there simply for my entertainment these days, as I’ve evolved into almost a ZFG attitude towards basically all strangers. I’ve seen a lot of guys my age go down this road as well, fwiw.

        1. Agreed on that, it happens to be a two edged sword though. You stop caring about people, and you stop building new relationships. There are about two people outside of family that I would consider close friends. I just don’t have the time to be a social butterfly with people that don’t care about me either.

        2. You know, I don’t know about that. This is just my experience, but I’m an extrovert, so I really enjoy hanging out and talking and networking and shit. But do I care, as in take it personally, what people think of me? Nah, not at all. They either like to be around me and aren’t annoying and that’s cool, or they judge me in some way and they’re fine to just mosey on away and it’s no skin off my nose.

        4. I became ZFG long ago. I have found that this is no longer something I can turn off. My parents are long dead. My siblings are dyed in the wool feminists, who I still love, but no longer can relate to. And I am married to a lovely woman, but have learned that all relationships with women are time limited. She has shocked me by staying around as long as she has. I hold out a reserve in order to better deal with her inevitable departure.
          I am also an extrovert. It is not my birth nature, but has been forced on me over the years. It has become my acquired natural state. Just as I am a natural beta by birth and upbringing, life has pretty much beaten that out of me. And I put up quite a struggle before reality won. Like the scrap iron picked out by the blacksmith, I have been turned into the tool that is needed to survive by being placed in the hottest part of the furnace and then beaten on repeatedly.
          Many people in a social setting find this ZFG attitude off putting, and mostly intimidating. It comes from not playing the status games they are used to. When they try to score points off of me I just shrug and say good for you, and maintain my frame. I accept people as I find them, and have extremely low expectations. Still some people manage to go under these low expectations.

        5. I’ve taught my daughter that you can count the amount of friends to truly trust, who’ll probably be there for you on a whim, on one hand. More than 5, revise the list, and that’s probably excessive. Mine is about 2-4 depending. I’ve given too much to too many who didn’t deserve it.
          I once banged a girl who told me my answer to:”Could you live alone the rest of your life with no human contact?” is why she fell for me. I said;”Within the constructs of my own mind are planted the seeds for survival and a decision tree to prosper in most any situation. I can conceptualize for days on end just thinking, and keep myself entirely entertained for years on end, no book stimuli, nothing. Instead of life dragging me along, I replace the absence of people indefinitely with the personification of life itself and state ‘life, you’re going for a ride, because THIS is what it means to live, as if to show my passenger what it’s all about !”
          The best friends are already they’re own best friends.

        6. Well said- the sooner the better for younger guys to reach this stage. It’s happening anyway with all the high-notch women in their generation(s) who are ruined for pair-bonding. I differ with AV Yader that I am far FAR milder on the ‘benefit of the doubt’… my non-blinking interactions with new pussy let them know I know they’ve slutted around… and how they react to that Frame is many times entertaining but always in ZFG mode.

        7. i agree…..if you give a rat’s ass, it usually blows up in your face, anyhow

        8. ZFG is a great attitude to have but not when couple with Machiavelianism and psychopathy that A.V.Yader exibits in search of his “nut”.
          p.s. it does seem like he is missing a nut and is desperately trying to make-up for it by fronting way too hard for his own good.

    4. Am going to have to re-read what you just wrote and work on internalizing that, seriously. Great credo and mindset to work from.

      1. This is how you need to talk to your wife at least three years into a marriage. IF YOU DON’T, then you’re becoming a doormat and she’s ready to talk to you like that. She’ll flake though if you acquiesce to that kind of yap coming from a woman. Don’t become a poor doormat. I have to call my wife “bitch” maybe 10 times a day depending on the time of the month or if she wants to play like she’s not horny. She snaps like a turtle when I flirt with other women though, unless she’s fond of them too. It’s like she smells something about other women or can sense some quality that I can’t smell. Bitch can smell. She needs to cut the jealousy shit out. She snapped on the sweetest nicest girl once that I was trying to chat. Couldn’t figure out why. Chemistry? We needed a sisterwife bad back then so I said “Okay bitch, then YOU smell out a good sisterwife if you’re so good at smelling”

        1. “This is how you need to talk to your wife at least three years into a marriage. IF YOU DON’T, then you’re becoming a doormat”
          Keyboard warrior. Going full-bore asshole on a meek wife will kill a marriage just as surely as being a doormat. A touch of asshole once in a while, in the right context, yes, but being a full prick on a daily basis is a recipe for her to leave.
          Keeping hand has to be more about what is implied, not what is explicitly stated. Swearengen is trying too hard. Ian McShane is a great actor but the scene was overwritten and is not a recipe for long-term happiness. It’s entertainment.

    6. I dig your rants man. If more guys like you direct enough of your influence onto forming a new tribe, I see it as one besting the test of time to create something truly stable in this rotten human world. I’m sure you’ve been asked many times if you will have children or go off to the mountains of Romania to find an 18 year old virgin to breed the perfect stock with, but truly the only way to create something with ‘meaning’ in this life is our own world, our own people, bereft of anything leftist or degenerate. Just some food for thought, I can’t drown in hedonism forever, there has to be a direction in my actions, and I know quite a few successful others who play the system then check out. I will never change my attitude towards wenches, but sons are the legacy you want in this world.

      1. “but sons are the legacy you want in this world.”
        They really are. And “happy is the man who fills his quiver with them.”
        I’ve two sons. They’re quickly learning how to read the Matrix.

    7. A devil’s advocate reply – some PUA Experts could say ‘learn to deal or live with women’s shit tests’ and that they ‘can’t help it’.
      Personally – I am in your camp. Fucking women wanted equality, then they should woman-up and act respectable. Like you, finding that behavior is like finding a snowball in the desert.
      Coming back to the first line, a certain sage a few years ago wrote: ‘the pussy house always wins in the end – learn to live with that’. Even though I’m in an LTR, I only can deal with this by pinching myself often and remind myself of Roosh’s great article that women are like oil wells, enjoy the gusher but one day (usually 2-3 years) it will completely be exhausted.

    8. Is “getting my nut” the highest value expression your aspire to?

  9. As an older guy who finished my dating in the mid nineties at the age of 30, I stumbled upon the same thing in similar fashion. Instead of booze and drugs, mine was the typical broken heart at age 21. I just didn’t care anymore and women couldn’t get enough of me. Once cured I carried that frame until today. Crazy, but the only way to get the woman you want is for her to never know how much you want her. I am training the next generation and it is glorious to watch these young guys flourish.

  10. “You can’t turn a ho into a housewife” agreed. You cannot turn anyone into anything. They have to do it themselves, if at all possible. Problem is, a woman’s timetable is short. Say they are riding the carousel until 25, then for whatever reason, they decide to jump ship and live the straight and narrow. It will take two years (how much time it took for me) for them to clean themselves up. By then, they will be 27 and hitting the wall quickened by her lifestyle, coupled with the fact that they have a history. So, even if she recognizes her error in her prime (doubtful) she will have missed the boat and is destined for a life of cats.
    I was no PUA, but for a few years, I made girls and drinking my priority. I wouldn’t consider myself evil, just a kid having fun. I got tired of it, wanted a stable life, found religion and cleaned myself up at 23. I was in good physical shape, and still young enough to be considered a regular college kid. So, it worked out for me. I was 28 and still in college when I married a 23 YO. She graduated a year before I did. Did I become a “nice guy”? Not really, while dating the Mormon girls, I still used the techniques of playing the field, having an abundance mentality, swatting away shit tests, etc. All I really did different is kept sex out of the equation.

    1. A girl who rides the carousel til she’s 25 will NEVER clean herself up.
      If I put a Renault Espace through a gruelling trans-antarctic death race, that car would be irredeemably fucked.
      Like said 25 year old

      1. There was this girl that my wife knew from her hometown that was a little slut in high school, then decided to clean herself up at 19. For her, it worked (as far I I know). She got married to a guy and last I heard (a decade ago) they had three kids and were doing well. How she is now, remains a question. Improbable, not impossible.

        1. “little slut” is what i make girls call themselves in bed during amorous activity

        2. Sure, but chances are higher than average some chad is dipping his cock in there.
          You like those odds?

        4. knock knock who’s there? chad’s dick knocking against your cervix

        5. That right there is why the double standard exists with women. For guys, sex is meaningless. Girls have some psychological connection with whoever they are boinking. .

      2. And you’d have helluva time riding that Renault just like you would said 25 year old

    2. This is a great comment Jim and I think you point to something very important and often missing. Of course you can’t turn a ho into a housewife…but who says a ho wants to be a housewife…this is a mans problem when he lets his ego get carried away.
      I would go a step further and say there is nothing wrong with a woman who would rather enjoy dating and sex and doesn’t want a family. Shit, I don’t want a family…it would be disingenuous for me to suggest some woman ought to. Of course, the women who think they can just do what they want into their 30’s and then be june cleaver are totally fucking delusional, but that is another case. Those women have committed an error in their prime because they did something that ruined their chances for attaining something they truly wanted. But there are plenty of women out there that simply eschew the whole idea of family life and are perfectly content to be successful career women and enjoy dating, cock and solitude and I say good for them.
      Further, I do think you are right that if they catch themselves in a mistake because they realize they want a family and do it early enough and undergo the right steps they can in fact roll things back. I mean, not at 35, but as you say at 25 sure…

      1. Agreed, however it will be an uphill battle for them, competing with the other June Cleaver wannabes. There comes a point that it is just too much. However, as I stated below, I know a girl that did it at 19 and it worked.

        1. uphill battles can be won though and that is something that is important. It is just as likely, I would think, that a very nice good girl who gets married at 19 turns curious and then turns whore at 28 as a 25 year old whore getting herself turned around to be a wife and mother.

        2. probably easier for the good girl to turn whore. That can happen on some fluke bad day, where as a whore turning into June Cleaver takes years of effort.

        3. that’s why if you get a young wife, you keep breeding her … that leave it beaver world was a nightmare: June was like 30-35 and Wally and the Beaver didn’t need her anymore. 2 kids is not stable. You have to keep breeding a young wife.

        5. Do you know the name of that literary technique where a character’s name reflects their personality? Like think of “Eddie Haskell.” What does it conjure up? “Rascal”, “i·ras·ci·ble”, “rap·scal·lion”

        8. sounds like that game “telephone” where you whisper in someones ear and they repeat in another ear until you go around the room.

    3. I know a few cases where hoes were turned into virtuous housewifes. All of them included beating.

  11. Can A Man Who Has Slept With Hundreds Of Girls Still Be Considered A Good Person???
    Yes, of course.
    Being a man who can’t help but give women the tingles, a notch count in the hundreds is easy to rack up…
    In fact, my ASMR videos on YouTube have given tens of thousands of girls tingles. I can’t help it. I know how to give girls the tingles: aggressive tapping, sensual ear eating, I do it all.
    And all you omega spergs out there shouldn’t be jelly of my tingle-inducing abilities!

    1. You catch your girl getting the tingles from my ASMR videos: what do you do, you cuck?

    3. Girls call me “Dr. Pins and Needles” cuz my ASMR vids give them so many tingles

    4. Know what my ASMR vids and ISIS beheaders have in common? They both give girls tingles

    5. lol’ing @ you beta fags who can’t give girls the tingles. My ASMR vids give girls the tingles on a daily

  12. ***Ok. What is considered “a lot” of women? What’s the number? Also how many women have you slain? Be honest. Go!

        5. You beat me to the punch, I was looking for a hot Brazilian pic just now, lol.

        10. I understand silicone breast implants, but butt implants are just weird to me. All it does is make them look fat.

        11. no booty implants back then jim! all natural in that vid!

        12. If a girl is in her 20’s, she needs to look skinny. By the time they are in their 30’s they will have filled out about right. If they are “curvy” in their 20’s, they will be chubby or obese by their 30’s.

        1. Oh. I’ve slept with 22% of the female population. I stopped using absolute numbers in the 1990s….

      1. 1. I’m afraid that In my anger, I sort of…accidentally went a little too Dark Side.

        3. So did you grab her by the neck or did you do the cool no hands thing?

        2. Nice team effort there, @disqus_68anDuoclq:disqus, and @waldemar_pabst:disqus!!!

        2. Sounds like a fine evening to me.

  13. The percentage of men who have slept with hundreds of women is miniscule. I’m using the title for a number. I read somewhere that most men will never get above 5.

  14. Of two minds on this. It’s easy to go the atomist route with “It doesn’t matter what anybody thinks of me!” and if you’re single and living the life, then that’s true as far as it goes. I also think it applies in situations where you are married and have a family, however, the exception being your children. If you’re being a good father, you are necessarily striving to set a good example and their judgement of you comes out not just expressly, but also in how they act and react with the world, since they will more or less mirror your example. So in that case, being judged “good” is outright necessary and something you actively look to do. The rest of the world outside the family realm though? Nah. You can be good and earnest by your moral code and that’s great, but worrying about others “considering you good” seems a bit like weak sauce in the respect that we’re talking about moral judgement from strangers.
    So basically, it doesn’t matter how many women you’ve fucked.

    1. I got a joke lolknee will appreciate:
      Q: What did the dualist have to say on this matter?
      A: I’ve of two minds on this

    2. Reminds me of the old saying, if you are a parent, you should still be one even when your kids aren’t around.

  15. Of course he can be a good person, just don’t leave that Jody motherfucker alone around your wife or girlfriend…..or daughter.

    1. Yep, you get deployed overseas, you lock that girl up to keep Jody from sniffin’ around your door.

  16. Banging hundreds of girls will certainly change you as a person.
    But it’s whether it makes you a good or bad person will depend on your moral beliefs.
    I think the question needs to be more specific. Like for example will banging hundreds of girls make you a good father? Will it fuck up your ability to form relationship​s? Will it help you to get rich?

  17. What will banging hundreds of girls turn you into?
    An HIV infected Charlie Sheen, I guess…

    1. bzzzz incorrect. there is literally no amount of heterosexual, vaginal or oral sex you can have that will get you HIV. If Sheen got the HIV he got it from IV drug use or experimenting with being a fag

        1. try it for yourself: bareback 1000 hookers. Lolknee guarantees you won’t get HIV

        2. nah, aids is a disease for fags, druggies and third worlders…nothing doing around here.

        3. I’m gonna use that approach when I’m with a girl and she wants me to use a rubber: “What, are you a faggot or something?”

        4. Q: What does lolknee have in common with an Indian brave?
          A: They both like to ride bareback

        6. wow…nice. I really wish there were some opportunities in RL to use this.

        8. You can still get infected with plenty of STDs, some of them incurable (Genital Herpes, HPV etc)…

        1. tranny = man….I don’t care what a guy is wearing, if you fuck a man it is gay

      3. he got caught with trannies, no? guess you know len dysktra was the guy who got him out of his panic room after sheen was diagnosed with hiv

        1. I don’t know about the trannies, but I totally believe it and if he has the HIV then it is from needles or man hole…I don’t care how slutty those women were he didn’t get it from vaginal intercourse . Didn’t know that about dykstra either, but man oh man that must have been one hilarious scene.

        2. Traps: gay or not? It’s like asking what’s at the center of a black hole. The universe does not so easily give up her secrets…

        3. …or how many licks it takes to get to the center of a tootsie roll pop.

        5. What is a “trap” I have been hearing the term a lot lately and even after googling it I am still not sure. The only traps I know are the trapezius muscles

        8. is that what “trap music” and “the trap house” are all about? I am going to have to abstain from the question based on ignorance of the topic.

        9. i’m afraid you’ve plumbed the depths of my knowledge of gay culture

        16. They may be the same person. You never saw them together in the same place, and Bowie’s death is effective cover to allow his Trudeau persona more time to govern.

  18. Game = classic virtues: courage, industriousness, perseverance and so forth.

        1. I might need a re-listing of classic virtues. I was sure that boldness and fearlessness were on the list, but I may be thinking of Norse culture and not Antiquity in Greece.

        3. Greece Antiques huh? What kind? Perhaps an urn? A Grecian urn? Perhaps with an ode upon it?

        4. Yes. I have written an article on personality psychology, partly linked to game http://www.returnofkings.com/113481/how-to-optimize-your-personality, so I do not need to dwell more on that specific topic in these pages.
          However, I’ve actually considered to write an ROK article on the nexus between game and classic virtues.
          In brief, we can look at both the classical Greek cardinal virtues, and those of Catholicism (which largely hinges on Greek philosophy). As with lists of virtues there are not clear-cut demarcations but here is a list of the typical Platonian/Aristotelian cardinal virtues:
          Justice
          Temperance
          Fortitude
          Prudence
          Actually, these are not that easily linked to game, except from fortitude. However, if one includes magnanimity it is possible to find a palpable link to game. Just think about how much largeness it takes to get rejected.
          Now let’s onsider the Catholic virtues:
          Compassion
          Temperance
          Chastity
          Charity
          Patience
          Diligence
          Kindness
          Temperance
          I think that patience, diligence and patience conform to the game mindset, whereas chastity obviously does not. The other ones are somewhere in between.

      2. I will work this word into a powerpoint presentation at some point before I die

  19. Male or female, I don’t respect people who behave like sluts and whores. It doesn’t make them bad people but when a person has sex with too many people different people they develop an air of cheapness and filth. Just take a look at porn stars for example. They all have a certain look and energy about them that I don’t like. Something about them has been compromised.
    As a rule I never have more than 3 sexual partners on the go at one time. Why? I need to maintain my pure manly essence and my sense of sanctity and value.

    1. “What?” (mocking tone) “Do you think sex is supposed to be sacred or something?”

        4. no no no, you have it all wrong
          First you limp to the side like your leg was broken
          Shakin’ and twitchin’ kinda like you was smokin’
          Crazy wack funky
          People say ya look like M.C. Hammer on crack, Humpty
          That’s all right ’cause my body’s in motion
          It’s supposed to look like a fit or a convulsion
          Anyone can play this game
          This is my dance, y’all, Humpty Hump’s my name
          No two people will do it the same
          Ya got it down when ya appear to be in pain
          Humpin’, funkin’, jumpin’
          Jig around, shakin’ ya rump
          And when the dude a chump pump points a finger like a stump
          Tell him step off, I’m doin’ the Hump

        5. I am so going to start using “I’m going for a scuttle”

        7. Lemme tell you about this one time I got busy in a Burger King bathroom.

    2. if you are saying that you should never be having sex with more than 3 women at a time then I actually agree. I think 3 is what I have in current rotation at any given time with a couple sure things in the phone just in case.

  20. btw love the first girl and the second girl in those sexy red bottoms looks amazing….if her front is as good as the back she is nearly perfect.

  22. The virtue of a man resides not in how many women he has fucked, but in other values like honor, courage, loyalty, will to power, etc. Now, it is part of men’s nature to whore around, we are producing spermatozoa 24/7 so the wish to spread it is both biologically and morally normal. A different thing is when you are married to the right woman, there you must honor your wife by being the most faithful husband; accidents could happen (we are humans after all), but they are not the ideal nor the marriage should end because of that.
    The virtue of the woman resides in being a loyal and good wife and a good and nurturing mother. Period. End of story. Women without this virtue are incomplete at best (cat ladies) and BPD whores at worse, like all modern women.
    It is bad to fuck a modern day slut? She’s the slut, not me…..use condom and don’t kiss her in the mouth and that’s all.
    P.S. Now a little clarification: making fucking the goal of one’s life is decadence. There are more important things in life.

    1. we don’t agree on everything, but we do agree sometimes. I am a firm believer than once you make a commitment to a woman (in terms of an LTR or Marriage) it is wrong to stray. To quote scarface, a man has two things in this world…his word and his balls…you don’t break either for anyone.

      1. Of course it’s wrong to stray in a LTR/Marriage, but we are humans and accidents could happen. An accident is NOT deliberately hitting and then fucking a girl from work; an accident is when you are on a business trip with a hot girl from work, you get drunk in a work-related cocktail party and in the lift you end making out with her, and then to her room…..that’s an accident.
        I don’t condone that, but it is in the realm of the possible. It is not the ideal, but we are humans. In my personal experience, when you are in a LTR (never married yet) it is better to stay away from situations where the temptation and alcohol are present.

        1. Not an accident. A moment of weakness more like. Cant ‘accidentally’ get laid.
          And yes, avoid temptation – like alcoholics should not hang out in bars…

        2. of course accidents happen but in general. I have only been in one LTR in my whole life. I never cheated and, like you say, I avoided situations where that would present itself as much as possible. I was pretty much a home body…stayed home with the woman and drank rather than going out.

        3. Accident: an undesirable or unfortunate happening that occurs unintentionally and usually results in harm, injury, damage, or loss.
          I didn’t desire to fuck her, it was unfortunate, my intention was not there, the result was moral harm and damage to my LTR/Marriage, but happened. I think that the definition is correct, it was an accident.
          ( I’m a lawyer, heh)

        5. the road to hole is paved with good intentions

        7. We covered this yesterday. It is entirely plausible to walk along outside, trip on the sidewalk and your dick falls into a vagina. I thought I’d made that clear?

        9. I have been in 3 LTR, one almost ended in marriage. Never fucked another woman during those relationships, however minor accidents happened: during all the 3 LTR I kissed (I was drunk) another girl; and I felt really bad because I was breaking my commitment….. eventually I found evidence that 2 of those 3 girls were cheating on me…
          The lesson of the story: AWALT.

        10. I have been in 3 LTR, one almost ended in marriage.

          I can’t tell if you meant that intentionally or not, but the second clause to that sentence has me laughing.

        11. There is a concept in roman law called ‘dolus’, a former professor defined it like this “you know something is bad and you want it to happen”. In this scenario you know it is bad, you don’t want it to happen but your judgement is clouded by both alcohol and lust. There is no intention to do the harm.

        12. It was unintentionally….you know, my command of the lingua franca is not perfect…..but yeah, it is really funny…..I was trying to say that in one we had wedding plans, etc.

        13. Can I use the same defense if I kill someone?
          “y’honor – it aint my fault; I was drunk and angry!”

        14. Ok, but doesn’t that give cover to married/LTR women who go out on GNO all the time and “accidentally” get drunk and then “accidentally” go blow the DJ in the men’s restroom?

        17. I maintain that girls can only have accidental sex if I accidentally fall on them while walking on the sidewalk and our genitals mesh. Unfortunately, this happens much more often than you’d think!

        18. I tried to get out of a DWI that way once…..it’s not my fault I am driving drunk, I was too drunk to know I ought not be driving.

        19. Probably at least as good as an ocean bj.

        20. no no no no no….there was one girl who didn’t want to cheat on her husband so I told her I was just going to put the tip in…but she was so wet we accidently had sex…totally not cheating.

        22. A married woman, by definition, has no business whatsoever getting drunk without her husband, even less being in a club. That’s not an accident, that’s simply a married (to a beta) whore whoring around.

        23. I’m not being dense or anything, but I’m missing the distinction here for some reason. Ok, take it out of a club, put her on a business trip. Has dinner, goes to the hotel bar for a glass of wine, lolknee strolls in and one thing leads to another and she’s being pounded in the elevator. No intent, not out looking, “it just happened”.

        24. OK, I understand your point. The male and female nature is different and they have different roles, the man/husband is the head of the family, the provider, the pater familias, he goes out and works while the woman stays at home. The woman/wife stays at home doing his part as the loving wife and nurturing mother; that’s his role, his sphere. Wife work is at home, raising the kids, and if the kids are old enough, then helping raising the grandkids, etc. What are the business trip in this situations? vacations with the family, visiting sisters, nieces, whatever.
          The problem is that this modern world is so permeated with feminism and egalitarianism that create the scenario you mentioned. In a ideal world, and following the line of this discussion, male accidents would not happen, much less an opportunity like your scenario.

        25. Well ok, right, I can understand what you’re saying if we’re talking traditional roles in a traditional society. Absolutely agree. But we don’t live in that any longer, so girls, even “good girls” are going to occasionally be out on the night alone, sometimes for entirely “legit” reasons (by today’s standards).

        26. Exactly, the basic premise of this modern fucking world is wrong. We have to strartover/bringback a traditional society.

        27. Like that time I tripped on the rug in a hotel hallway and landed dick first in this girl’s pussy. Totally an accident.

        28. I would think that you should admit you are a wife beating pedophile before you admit you are a lawyer on this board.

      2. “I am a firm believer than once you make a commitment to a woman (in terms of an LTR or Marriage) it is wrong to stray.”
        I have to disagree to a point here.
        I have never cheated on my wife, and have no intent to do so, but I never say never. I don’t want to sound presumptuous about your and your life experiences, what you know and have seen, etc… Maybe you have seen things differently, but I tend to hear things like this most often from people who ARE NOT in long term committed relationships. It’s kind of like an idealized imagining of what these sorts of relationships are, and should be, like rather than a reflection of reality.
        Now, I’m not saying that guys should get an easy pass for being a shady fucker and sleeping around on their committed wives. Don’t get me wrong. But I come at it both as someone who is in one of these relationships, and also as a lawyer (unfortunately, I guess).
        At the end of the day, a Marriage is a contract between two people. A contract is simply an exchange of reciprocal promises. But a contract is broken once someone fails to honor their end of the bargain.
        I have seen guys who are in miserable marriages, and they put up with unbelievable shit (talking YEARS of no sex – no shit) and don’t stray because they adhere to your view. I’m a little more mercenary about it. I promised to be faithful in return for the reciprocal promise that my wife would make herself exclusively available to fulfill my sexual needs. If she ever stops upholding her end of the bargain, I won’t say I’ll be dashing out to chase tail – I do think that a part of this commitment is working through rough patches, etc…- but if that failed, I wouldn’t feel the least bit guilty about straying if that’s what it ultimately came to.
        I generally agree that men should keep their word. But a relationship is not a unilateral promise. Men should not be suckers. If you go into a business relationship with another dude, and he fucks you over, the promises you made to him aren’t worth shit and you are free to fuck him over right back. Same with women. Just my view of things.

        1. Everything you say is 100% correct.
          I guess I didn’t consider the idea that the partner would be a miserable shit because why not break the commitment then. In the ltr I was in I never cheated but one day I said fuck this it’s over.
          grsnted I haven’t been in a situation where that decision could result in divorce rape so I don’t have context for that and will have to defer to men who do have that first hand knowledge.
          My idea is that I would never cheat because if she didn’t deserve it I wouldn’t do it and if she did I would leave rather than cheat.
          Children and marriage laws may complicate this I have to concede however

  23. Well I will not argue that life allows guys to be more sexual. But it is apparent to me there is a point where a player guy (after having sex with a certain amount of women) will see a decline of women and will never get married. I do not see Roosh getting married unless he converts to islam and marries a muslin woman. Even if he is a millionaire his money would not get an Asian, or Eastern European woman that are more on the conservative side sexually to marry him. Such a guy also has a vibe around him.

      1. I currently have one in rotation now. Nothing special and after I fuck her I am horny an hour later, but she does come with a pretty cool accessory kit and she is smart and fun to talk to as well as being very stylish.

        1. No doubt you keep your Coca Cola under lock and key when she’s around. Precautions, can’t have enough of them.

    2. “I do not see Roosh getting married unless he converts to islam and marries a muslin woman.”
      So what if he does. I know white, western men who have done just that.

    3. “Well I will not argue that life allows guys to be more sexual.”
      Nothing in life stops a girl from being just as sexual as a guy.

  24. 100+ notches? Wash your beard and dick. Good as new. Voila. No beard? 5:00 shadow, leave it be.

    2. this is why I shave every morning and twice a day if I am going out at night.

  25. Didn’t read the article but..:
    DID YOU LITERALLY JUST SLUTSHAME ME ?

  26. Lets be honest, the only people who have that many partners are hyper sexual faggots and I have never met a mentally healthy faggot.

    1. And the clock is now officially ticking……………………….

    2. So, lets say you don’t get married. Should you just saw your dik off and call it a day?

        2. You know how you catch a man with no balls?
          Eunuch up on him!

        1. Its a valid question.
          YOU made the initial proposition. Any point is yours, yet to be made….

        2. My point is that fags and players have that many partners.
          There are more fags than dudes capable of that.
          The fags that I have met are not mentally healthy.
          It would follow that players who do that are not healthy.
          Whats your point?

        3. My point is that it is unnatural (even possibly mentally ill) for someone to abandon the urge to copulate simply because they haven’t entered into (someone else’s) social contract.

        4. Youre point doesnt really pertain to anything I am talking about.
          Is the discussion about bedding 20 or 30 women in your life? No.
          The discussion and article is about bedding hundreds.
          Sorry dude, but the only people I have met who ever did that are hyper sexual faggots I would not trust to be around my dog or child.

        5. Lets say you start getting laid at 18 (late, but I’m being conservative). If you have no interest in having a family, yet retain an healthy libido and the means of indulging it, even with a paltry rate of 4 new conquests per year, you’ll crack 100 by middle age.
          Not exactly Caligula….

  27. Unrestricted sexuality (especially female, but ALSO male) is a threat to civilization. We aren’t a bunch of useless apes who just think about getting laid. How much respect do male porn stars get from you? They fuck more women than you do.

    1. I’ve heard, and I don’t know if it’s true but I’ve heard it from a couple of places, that professional male porn stars, back when there was such a thing, had to rise through the ranks of gay/bi porn to finally make it to straight sex porn.
      So assuming that, I don’t care how many or little they fucked, they’re faggots and I’m prone to not respecting them on principle alone.

      2. I’m not saying a man who has slept with 100s of women is necessarily bad, I have such a friend, but I don’t envy him. Because when I have been in relationships with beautiful women, travelled with them and stuff, he has spent tons of cash on nightclubs to fuck drunk sluts who don’t even remember him one month later, while my girlfriends have posted their worship of me on their facebook.

        1. Safe to say, you and your friend want different things out of life. Every one persues their own personal happiness to where they lead and learn lifes lessons (if at all) at their own pace.

        2. I have a live and let live view of it. In the case of a single, well to do, fit guy living in a city, I can see how you can easily reach a 100+ notch count without even really meaning to. You simply go out to your places where you have huge social proof and the pussy more or less walks up to you and badda bing, you end up tossing around in the sheets later that night. Multiply that by every weekend for the last 10 years and your notch count is huge.

        3. Right. There’s really nothing manic or compulsive about it. Its a natural urge.

    2. I think it is wrong to see ones value in terms of how much pussy they pipe out. That said, fucking women is a hobby like anything else. One ought to enjoy their hobbies and partake in them as often as their life and resources and free time allows. This isn’t to say one should make it the core of their life and value, that is as annoying as the guy on the local bar pool team who never shuts the fuck up about pool and thinks being the captain of his pool team somehow makes him special.
      On the other hand, the idea that you need to restrict sexuality sounds like a bunch of puritan nonsense for closet queers and fat dudes who are jealous they don’t get their dicks wet often enough.

      1. Would you encourage your daughters to be sluts?
        I’m not saying a man who has slept with 100s of women is necessarily bad, I have such a friend, but I don’t envy him. Because when I have been in relationships with beautiful women, travelled with them and stuff, he has spent tons of cash on nightclubs to fuck drunk sluts who don’t even remember him one month later, while my girlfriends have posted their worship of me on their facebook.

        1. I don’t have nor do I want children. However, I encourage everyone, man and woman alike, to decide what they want from life, recognize the benefits and drawbacks of such and if they accept the drawbacks to enjoy the benefits.
          I do see what you are saying and I was, in essence, agreeing with you. There is nothing to envy in a man who sleeps with 100’s of women unless you are a man who wants to sleep with 100’s of women and haven’t figured out how in the same way that there is nothing for me to envy in a man with a 280 bowling average…I couldn’t fucking care less….but if I was a bowler and passionate about bowling that might change.
          It is never a good thing to make your self worth about your hobbies nor is it a good idea to envy a man for his hobbies. In this we agree. You should respect a man, in my opinion, based on their resources, intelligence, will to stick to their principles and character — the qualities that are what a man’s value truly is.

        2. Okay, you have chasing women as a strong hobby. Quite pathetic and blue-pilled to me, but if it makes you happy, go for it.

        4. Personally I think golf is stupid. For ME. I dont begrudge another for liking it and striving for excellence in it.

        5. Or spit into the wind
          Or even pull the mask off the ol’ Lone Ranger…

        6. See bud, it is this attitude here that gives you away not as a principled man, but as a sad and weak little fella.

        9. My cousin always told me that I had no need to learn golf because I wasn’t married but if I did get married and I did have kids I would learn, quickly, the beauty of an activity that women avoid like the plague, that occurs in the open air and where alcohol is encouraged.

        12. which one is real alpha? I always get mixed up with all the different queers that put “alpha” in their name

        13. not sure the sheer amounts of alcohol my cousin was talking about would be encouraged on a motorcycle…..

        15. To be honest, I actually just mixed him up with another one, too.

        16. Last Thursday. That’s what you get for missing the meetings, slacker.

        17. Well….we don’t encourage it…per se…..technically…..
          I mean biker motorcycling, not just on the road alone stuff. Lots o’ drinking going on, and no small amount of drugs either (of which I do not partake, as drugs are literally an attempt to make your brain into a waffle kebob).
          It’s not for amateurs though, or people with common sense.

        18. not sure where you get the idea that vagina is being worshipped. Look at you. You are a huge vagina and I am fairly sure you have no one worshipping you.

        20. oh no…I understand what you mean…but even by biker standards….cousin knee is a fan of the kind of drunk that would preclude walking…let alone driving….let alone driving a bike

        21. I play golf. Usually when I am back home and meeting with old (married) friends. We are in the sun, talking/joking and every 20 minutes a college aged hottie arrives on a golf cart to sell us beer. It usually takes us 4 hours to finish 18 holes and then another hour in the golf club for a bite and a drink.
          As you might guess, it has nothing to do with golf.

        22. Ah, ok.
          But hey, credit where credit is due. I managed to wedge “waffle kebob” successfully into a conversation. I think I should get some merit points for that.

        23. I am sure you are a Hillary-suppoter who wants USA to be continued to be flooded with third worlders, so you can get some latina pussy.

        25. hey don’t look at me I am a feminist, cultural Marxist jew….what do I know.

        27. They say golf is a mental game. I agree, you have to be a mental to play it.

        28. Beer wenches are great. I’ve golfed with my dad from time to time and he can get one of them giggling and following around the group like nobody’s business. Mr. Freaking Congeniality.

        30. so you are saying that anyone who doesn’t fit your narrow (and moronic) definition of conservatism voted for Hillary Clinton and wants refuges in America? Wow. The ego on you. If everyone who thought that you were a ridiculous twat voted for Hillary Clinton she would be president.

        31. They sell beer out on the Fairways in the US? Fucking hell you guys are off the fucking charts!!!

        32. It must be a mid-west thing. When I tell my European colleagues about “young women distributing beer on the golf course to middle aged men wearing cargo-shorts” they are agape.
          Then I tell them afterwards about chucking the clubs into the trunk, pulling out the AR15s and assorted weapons to go across the street to the firing range and pop a few rounds down range.
          This is when they start swooning onto their fainting couches.

        35. Send’em to Vegas. You step off the plane directly into an area with slot machines, the advertisement on the walls is for machine gun ranges AND strip clubs, and you have a bar ten feet from the gate.
          It’s like my own little slice of heaven, really.

        36. You didn’t know that? Oh hell yeah, and always it’s some hot little college girl who brings it to you.

        37. The other day, I was in church, and a good friend of mine came in with two black eyes and a swollen lip. I asked him what happened……
          He starts telling me this story about going golfing with some coworkers. Apparently, this course is near this cow pasture. He slices his ball into the cow pasture. Then it was his wife’s friends turn. She does the same, right into this herd of cows. Well, they go to retrieve the balls, but can only find one. Pretty soon there is this cow they notice with a ball lodge under her tail. Unable to recognize the ball, he calls that woman over, picks up the cows tail and asks “Does this look like yours?” Poor guy was beat with a 9 Iron.

        38. Anything is compatible with nihilist. Nihilist is just someone who believes that there is no pre Set rules which need to be observed and that the individual is responsible for creating his own moral guidelines.
          The principles by which I live don’t have to corolate to the principles by which any other nihilist lives.
          Just because I think values don’t have an absolute validity based in god or government or gnomes or whatever doesn’t mean I don’t live by principles.
          I do morality and cosmology DIY rather than pre fab.

        39. Vegas is on my bucket list. Outside of a poker game with amigos, gambling holds little for me (must have been the statistic courses in college), but I do want to go to Vegas at least once.

        41. I don’t gamble generally speaking, but I will do blackjack down on the strip of Old Vegas (the original, non corporate place). Usually dealers are little old retired people, and they’ll talk to you and smile and be nice and the game has a nice progression without being lightning fast. Just good fun, and sometimes I’ll even walk away winning a bit.
          The “today” strip though, with the multi gazillion dollar clubs, fuck, you take $150.00 in to $10 tables (if you can even *find* a $10 table) and those hot, gorgeous little Slavic girl deals will have you wallet raped so fast you’d swear that you married her.

        42. That’s why I always stop at the sportsbook first…then play a little blackjack and give a little bit back.

        43. I’m glad to hear you live by principles. I never doubted it. I always did wonder though how an academic could have resisted feminism though

        44. Churchhill would have agreed. He once commented, “golf spoils a good walk.”

        45. That’s why I prefer clay shooting. Blasting shit with a gun is worth the sunburn….

        47. ” I always did wonder though how an academic could have resisted feminism though”
          Oh, that’s simple — because its stupid

        49. Well, I imagine lots of academics resist feminism because they think it’s stupid. I meant how you managed to do your references / bibliographies without ever referencing female academics….and stuff like that.

        50. most of the work I did was either pre-Socratic or Immanuel Kant…..it is an area of academia that women tend to stay away from because learning ancient greek and reading kant is difficult and you can’t just make shit up.
          That said, not all of the conceptual basis in feminism is bad…Feminists are very much like Nazis in the sense that they took good philosophy, either misunderstood or misrepresented it until it was shoehorned into what they wanted it to be and then ran with it. A lot of the stuff Nietzsche talks about regarding truth is, I believe, very intelligent but feminists have basically lobotomized it in the same way that the Nazis did.
          Still, feminists simply didn’t bother with most of the pre-Socratics and they certainly ignored the living fuck out of kant so I was able to avoid dealing with them professionally even if we did have to share office space at times.

        51. don’t know that much about feminism / women on kant, but its usually been my experience that feminists gravitate towards fields and topics that discomfit them, rather than simply avoid them i.e. they are very much with marx on philosophy as being about ‘changing’ rather than interpreting the world.
          Apparently Kant said “I hardly believe that the fairer sex is capable of principles.

        52. you aren’t wrong…however, women aren’t actually much on marx. These feminists don’t read das kapital they read bullshit feminist theory which is written from what amounts to the sparknotes by other women.
          Reading Kant itself is a teachable science. Kant’s quotes on the fairer sex are from his minor work the anthropology or from his personal notebooks. If you take a look at the text of, say, The Critique of Pure Reason I think you will see very quickly where most women will just put it down and move on.

        53. “If you take a look at the text of, say, The Critique of Pure Reason I think you will see very quickly where most women will just put it down and move on.”
          I have. To be honest I’m with the women for the most part on that one. It’s not easy stuff, but yeah feminist theory tends to refer to other feminist theory most of the time. It tends to be very self-referential

        54. The thing about the works in the critical project is not that they are difficult but that they are written in a very particular way. You can’t just pick up the Critique and read it the way you might grab Still Life With Woodpecker or The Brothers Karamozov. First you need to learn how to read this type of writing. After that it is actually not too hard at all

        55. The problem with feminists is that telling them that they need to learn something is sexist so Kant must be stupid. How dare someone suggest they need to learn how to read 17th century Prussian scientific writing?

        57. I had a copy of pure reason on my bookshelf for years, but since I moved a while back I haven’t been able to find it. My unconscious probably made me lose it as it’s not the most fun coffee table book to just dip into. I’ve read some kant in the original but as with hegel I don’t see the point in punishing oneself for the sake of it – although obviously actual scholarship should always involve familiarity with the primary sources

        58. but in a fairness a lot of black feminists like kant because he talks about hair weaves…or was it extensionality

        59. Primary sources — that is an area where women fall short.
          I genuinely enjoyed reading Kant much in the way some people like doing complicated puzzles. There is truly a beautifully pieced together symmetrical reasoning there that is kind blowing.
          I once had a professor who said that Kant was one of those guys you could read one sentence and then just stare at your own pipe smoke disapating for an hour.
          Many people are like this with Wagner. To listen to his various lines come together over the course of hours until they all make sense.
          I think one of my biggest problems with professional academia was that I enjoyed philosophy too much. I didn’t get the business of academia and as such I was always more suited to being a philosopher as an avocation rather than as a vocation– that and I really fucking love money and the shit it buys and there ain’t none of that in the university

        61. I kind of liked the idea of being an academic but wouldn’t haven’t been suited to the business / management side of things. Re. philosophy I can well understand the staring out the window for hours, or like descartes simply staying in bed staring at the ceiling but juggling that with the administration…..I imagine one had to compartmentalise very effectively. Still you’re lucky to have experienced it even if it wasn’t for you. I don’t think academics have it easy generally but some of them have very good lives

        63. what ol’ George Dubya is actually saying is “yeah, i’ve told Bin Ladden 100 times not to use his 3 iron round the green”

        65. Me thinks you are right. I look forward doing just what I described above this summer and wish GoJ would quit advertising.

        2. you think women have the rights to be slutty, and you reward them by sleeping with them.

        3. It isn’t my place to tell people what their rights are. Guess what….it’s not yours either. I merely think that people should make up their own minds about what they want out of life with full knowledge of the up and down sides. I am not the morality police….neither are you.

        4. all women are sluts by default. you can a) be a whiny cunt and cry that your bluepill dreams will never come true or b) join the party and have fun

        7. so is Milo Y. who sucks big black cocks, daily. What’s your point?

        9. Because he is. He is a cultural marxism endorsing jew living in Manhattan. I have seen many shills, but he is the biggest – even bigger than Trump.

        12. are you sure @lolknee:disqus is even a male?!?!?!
          (cue creepy conspiracy music….)

        15. I can’t help but getting disgusted by sluts. I rather live with a woman who is boring in bed and who I can teach, then some slut. I despise a lot of young women, and don’t want to touch them. It was differente when I was 20, now I am 30, I have gotten more conservative as I have aged.

        16. Ok, but look…here we are and I am disgusted by you.
          As for you teaching anyone anything…good luck.
          Also, here is a tip: you aren’t conservative. You are just dumb, weak and insecure. You are the reason that liberals call conservatives dip shits with impunity. So yeah, thanks

      3. The whole of human history does not contain a single instance of a group becoming civilized unless it has been absolutely monogamous, nor is there any example of a group retaining its culture after it has adopted less rigorous customs.

        1. wow. even for you that is pretty fucking stupid.

        2. No society, ever, in any time period, on any continent, on any island, nowhere, not even the moon, has seen absolute monogamy.
          Talk to Bill Shakespeare or John Donne about that.

        3. Well, it is PJClarke, so….

        4. Haha, that was a direct quote by J. D. Unwin who studied 80 primitive tribes and 6 known civilizations through 5,000 years of history and found a positive correlation between the cultural achievement of a people and the sexual restraint they observe.
          Ignoramus!

        5. Haha, that was a direct quote by J. D. Unwin who studied 80 primitive tribes and 6 known civilizations through 5,000 years of history and found a positive correlation between the cultural achievement of a people and the sexual restraint they observe.
          Wow, indeed!

        6. No society, ever, in any time period, ever, has had absolute monogamy.
          Unless you’re, you know, calling Shakespeare and Donne ignoramuses. You just might, I can’t put it past you at this point.
          If the idea eludes you, I’m stating that a society can have a basis in monogamy, clearly, but you will never have “absolute” because people will always cheat. Always. No exceptions in any society, ever.

        7. wow! An out of context quote by an academic? You got me. As Shakespeare’s says “you’re a dumbass”

        8. But dude….quote. That’s like a cross before a vampire. Quote. Now run!

        9. Right “some guy who worked at a university at some time in the past said this thing and I just quoted it out of context…game set match

        10. Nothing exists in absolute terms, you’re old enough to know these things already … I hope.
          Unwins researched cultures according to their predominant attitudes towards sex.

        12. Well if nothing exists in absolute terms…follow me closely here…then don’t use the word “absolute” in describing something. Seems easy enough, right?

        13. Yes, that is when something is abstracted from its context and used to fit a preconceived point.
          Boy have to teach these kids everything

        14. That’s his fault not mine and besides by absolutely I don’t think he means 100%.

        16. It’s your fault if you use his quote as a statement of your own beliefs. Which you did, and did not qualify as otherwise.
          Absolute means 100% btw. How he “means” it is irrelevant.
          Language, we can do better with it.

        17. mmmmhmmmm
          Man, people on this site get dumber every day.
          Why don’t you try to break that quote (that you passed off as your own but we won’t touch the ethics of that) down and use it in a way that makes sense. I would bet all the money in my pockets to all the money in your pockets that you did not read the Hibbert Journal article that that quote came out of and just grabbed it from some echo chamber group of dipshits who likes quotes that make them sound smart.
          Ugh, if you had half a brain I would sit here and try to educate you. If you decide to procreate I hope you have daughters…I love stupid girls

        18. but monogamy with a 10% infidelity rate. Can’t hold otherwise.

  28. He might not be a good person but he’s likely to be good in bed. Which proves that every decision you make is a trade-off…you get this, you give up that.

        1. yours is superior descendant. Nice team work here bob.

        5. I love sluts
          And sluts love me
          I fondle their tits
          And squirt ’em where they pee…

        6. That’s like some fucking Shakespeare shit right there, bro.

        8. I know, right. I stayed up all night writing that damn thing. Only had to alter it like sixty times. But it was worth it, I think.

        12. Kid Rock probably has that base covered already. Heh.

        13. Yes, that’s why women continue to be sluts. If men started rejecting sluts, women would stop being sluts.

        14. Bitches ain’t shit,
          but hoes and tricks…
          Wait, what rhymes with AWALT?

        16. After picking his 12,000th comment board fight of the year, Perkins jerked his tiny dick off to photos of his alcoholic mother, belched, and then cried for two days straight…

        17. Now here, I rather agree with you. Women are what they are now, because men did not keep them in check. But, the thing is, that the ones who are already sluts are damaged goods out the door, they can’t become virgins again if we shun them, so the prevalent thinking here is, use the damaged ones and pipe them out at will. BUT….there’s also a prevailing unspoken rule of leave the actual few virginal good girls alone, unless you plan to marry her. It’s a rather complex situation at this point in time.

        18. Neither of those things have ever happened in the history of the universe, and neither of them will ever happen until the end of time.

        19. Clay Vault
          Geschtalt
          Single Malt

        20. “If men didn’t take the bait when various people tried to start Internet fights, they’d stop trying to pick fights.” – Gandhi

        22. And before anyone objects, Gandhi totally said that. I was there, and I heard it myself.

        23. Asphalt…
          Pick a slut
          Any slut
          Bang her butt
          Get a nut
          Yo…yo…yo…yo

        26. Where’s all that rap-bitch pussy? I wanna muh-dick some of that shee-it…

        27. This will all mean nothing if you don’t get gold installed on your grill, yo.

        28. Are you feeling randy, boys?
          What’ll you do for fun?
          You could while away the evening
          Plumbing your arsehole with your thumb.
          But for some lads that’s no pastime
          They’re a mind to do better things
          Bedding down the well-made wench
          Is the stuff of men and Kings.
          So out now all you young bucks
          The time should not be wasted
          There’s bursting ripe fruit to plunder
          And many flavors of tart to be tasted.

        29. Shee-it, home slice. I got more gold on my grill than skanky pussy gots crotch crickets…

        32. Yo
          de bitches be found
          dey be struttin’ around
          lookin’ to be pound
          pussy all around
          makin’ the sound
          and I be pouring me
          a tight single malt
          ‘cuz bro, you know,
          it’s like AWALT
          I think it’s pretty clear now that I’m whiter than bleach.

        33. Beats Snoop Dawg and all those other ghetto slugs by a country mile…

        34. let me guess…you have been rejected and humiliated by quite a large number of women huh

        36. Not many, since I am not out and hit on a lot of women. You have been rejected and humiliated much more since you hit on women on a weekly basis and since you aren’t Justin Bieber or Leo DiCaprio you get rejected most of the time. I feel superior to women, so if I get rejected by some, I don’t care. You remind me of this leftist cuck on a forum who said that men who gets a lot of women don’t care about if women are sluts or race-mixers. He said that just to troll alt-righters.

        37. ha. wow. way to confirm everything I believe about you. Well buck, I wish you luck in your sad life.

        39. Fight Club ………
          If you could pick anyone to fight, who would it be?
          Gandhi
          Good choice!

        40. Jesus Christ. If he wins, he immediately forgives you and heals your wounds. If you win, well you can’t do much better than Being the one to kick the ass of the son of god.

      1. you are another one who has had a lot of humiliating experiences with women huh….you don’t get much respect in the world do you?

  29. did someone say that MGTOW’s are total faggots already? if not:
    MGTOWs are total faggots.

    1. Why do you care?
      Every day the same divide and conquer bullshit between the conservatives…
      ‘Muh, Murica is better than Europe.’
      ‘Muh, Germany had better musicians than France’
      ‘Muh, MGTOWs are faggots.’
      ‘Muh, those guys from ROK are pussy beggars.’
      Your attitude is the only reason why white people are getting flushed down the toilet. You are the biggest cancer to an ethonationalist society. Even bigger cancer than faggots and feminism.

        2. oh that’s right…I forgot…you are a member of MENSIES

        3. Why is everyone who calls himself “Alpha” a desperate MGTOW Loser who spits his hate (actually self-hate) all over the internet.

        5. Are there any real Manosphere sites around, that aren’t MGTOWs or slut-lovers like ROK. I liked PUAHate, but it’s gone.

        6. Uhm…how ’bout David Bond on youtube? He only dates royal Thai chicas and recently he picked up a girl who wears a niqab in indonesia.

        7. Aryan Dawn is OK (Northern White only), and Strormfront (all white including the sub races)

    2. yes. all MGTOWs are gay. End of story. No exception.

  30. What’s up with all the snarky mosquito-types in here lately…why, you’d think there was an organized effort to create infighting to the point where people will abandon the comments section and vacate the premises entirely…wink, wink…nudge, nudge.

  31. It`s quality over quantity.
    Outside Europe and US you don`t need “hundreds of women”. A smaller number decent of ladies will be enough to give you satisfaction and happiness. (If despite that you are still chasing numbers, you are mentally ill and need help.)
    A decent Asian/African/Latin-American woman is usually worth more than fifty White girls from US/Europe.

    1. Yeah, but none of you guys will ever meet a ‘decent A/A/LA’ woman because they would only date their own. You get to select between hookers and trailer trash.

      1. The 2nd ‘A’ in his list — good luck finding a decent one.
        Or one that doesn’t look like Serena Williams, Chimpelle Obammy, or Patrick Ewing with tits — oh sorry, I guess that being redundant.

        2. And I never will.
          Sub-Saharan anyway.
          I would love to visit Tunisia and see the battlefield of Zama.
          If not for the muzzie-wuzzies…

      2. Wrong, sweetie. I am already already married to a beautiful Black African lady and have two wonderful children.
        I live the hookers and trailer trash to White supremacist idiots like yourself.

  32. Funny, how guys who call themselves StraightAlpha etc. are BetaFaggots. They hate race mixing but dream about moving to Asia and fulfill their bluepill dreams with a traditional, asian girl. (BECAUSE NOT ALL WOMEN ARE LIIIKE THAAAT)
    I hope her Asian Dad slices your 3 inch dick with his Katana. Especially in Japan they are very racist and won’t allow a Polish loser like you to marry her daughter. Try again with a tranny from bangkok.

      1. I love how you have no response to that. Thanks for proving my point. 🙂

        2. You are the one who took my trollbait 😉
          also werent you the one who cried on another article how awesome Poland is, for hours? hahahahaha

  33. Won’t you be glad when tomorrow comes and Mercury being in retrograde will officially be over…like, OMG.

    1. What’s with you and the stars. I had to look up the word ‘sidereal’ yesterday.
      Astronomer or girlie horoscope junkie? Or occultist of some sort?

        4. this would be, if I am not mistaken, a very well execute The Jerk joke @michaelmobius1:disqus

  34. Anyone who has one of those “live, laugh, love,” wall decorations is a good person in my book.

    1. Excellent point. Should have been mentioned in the original article, in fact.

  35. Who would have though this would have been such a contentious subject?

    1. contentious????? contentious?????
      PORCER! This means war.

    2. ITS NOT CONTENTIOUS AT ALL, YOU IGNORAMOUS! SHUT YER DAMN FACE HOLE!

  36. Bike night, I’m out y’all. Had enough of the Alt-Fight for today.
    Keep on keepin’ on.

    2. Wide open throttle ’til you see the face of God.
      Then brake! . 😉

  38. I had a similar discussion with someone recently about dating apps giving people way too many options. And when you have too many options you stop treating your current option as special, since you might have a bigger better thing right around the corner. I used to be a nice guy who would dress up on dates. But now I just wear my usual street clothes and go expecting the worst but hoping for the best, picking bars that are close to me or that I otherwise enjoy so that if the date goes bad I can at least enjoy the scenery or make an escape.
    I realize now at 30 that humans probably weren’t meant to be dating/single this long (See Heartiste’s first article, “Endless Dating”). The last girl I was able to really connect with was maybe 5 years ago, right around the time I took the red pill. Since then I can get along with women and give them respect if they respect me, but that magic spark I used to feel when attracted to a girl is gone. Now that I live in the big city, “dating” is nothing really more than meeting a drunk girl in a bar and going home, or swiping right on Tinder and hopefully hitting it off with someone who doesn’t disgust you.
    And playing in a band has allowed me to see some really degenerate female behavior that completely ruined my sugar and spice views. When you have a groupie who will let you do anything to her within an hour of meeting her, you begin to yearn for the days where cuddling in bed with a girl was like the coolest thing ever. I struggled for a bit with being able to have vanilla sex that didn’t involve name-calling, spitting, hair pulling, etc. because I discovered that’s what a lot of girls actually like.
    And I’m not even a prolific player, I’m just a guy who gets lucky every once in a while. If my first real long-term girlfriend hadn’t been a BPD head case I would probably have been more fulfilled marrying her at 22 than I would being single at 30 and copying and pasting my opener to girls on Tinder and then seeing each other 1-3 times until we meet someone else who’s better. And that’s where the dark triad traits kicked in.

  39. IN the long run the answer is No … you become what you are. Anyone who is jealous of Jeremy Meeks is a mangina. Let’s face it he’s a two time loser who might as well have his record tatooed on his head. That’s what he had to go through to become a ” bad boy “.
    Fucking joker, went though all that just to impress pussy. Fuck, what he is really … is a beta male half negro loser.

  41. its impressive if a man does it because it takes skill. any woman can get a lot cause men have such low standards.

    1. Why not?
      Being a good/decent person has nothing to do with how many girls you have banged. Especially if this was not by choice.
      Some of us don’t get to date and settle down with little miss perfect cheerleader.

      1. Right, because ruining 100s of girls is the good/decent thing to do, lol. Even if we didn’t have this website amply demonstrating how bad it is for women to ride the cock carousel on a daily basis, it’s kind of common sense.
        Women are not smart enough to care for themselves. Enabling destructive behavior that damages them in fact means that you are a bad person.

        1. Ruining???
          How do you figure that?
          I have to pay through the nose to get laid.
          And the Alpha/PUAs here, the girls throw themselves at them.
          “Women are not smart enough to care for themselves.”
          – agreed. But if they ignore the “nice guys” in favor of the “bad boys”, they get what they deserve. I still consider myself a “nice guy”, and non-pros have been ignoring me for a very long time — like, um, my whole life.
          “Enabling destructive
          behavior that damages them in fact means that you are a bad person.”
          – so no one should get laid?

        2. Unmarried non virgins are already ruined. They most likely lost their virginity young to same age peers who were immature and not to older seasoned PUAs. Virgins should be a supervised and protected resource but not a woman on the planet has the fortitude to singlehandedly preserve their own daughter’s virginity. Single mothers are the worst in that they will actively fast track the whoring out of their own daughters. Like they would know any better, mother or daughter alike. Single mothers are too stupid to grasp the importance of keeping their daughters chaste so as to better bond and serve the almighty DICK and PATRIARCH – HAIL! If they divorce raped or flaked on the father than they sure don’t give a damn about patriarchy.
          So the real problem aren’t the PUAs or strict whoremongers. They just enjoy the decline and check for dick sores. I haven’t heard of a ‘virginmonger’ who pumps and dumps virgins only. Such a person would be a predator and should be crucified alongside the gay pedos, the baby eaters and the blood drinking cabalists.
          Really the problem causing the deflowering of virgins to irresponsible minor youth are the ones who aid and assist in removing the father from the home. The mangina cops, the family court magistrates, the mandated reporter snitches and nibby neighbors, it’s all a football team quarterbacking, cheerleading and tackling the man, disempowering the man of the house and enforcing separation of the patriarch from his clan.
          The ENABLERS – women’s advocates, court appointed CASA, tribunals, HR, leftist propagandists in academia, nanny state socialist service casing, anyone who works in a profession that aims to empower the female to pursue single motherhood in tandem with careerhood or who actively prosecutes intact patriarchal family units for bounty. The heat has to get cranked up on the entire antipatriarchal network. It’s all made up of individuals and in societal discourse and swamp draining, things can get very VERY personal when you’re dealing one-on-one with individuals who believed that the entrenchment of their network was all they needed to ‘smash the patriarchy’ or to turn a buck cannibalizing on the assets of the male head of family.

        3. Statistically, if you weren’t one of the first 3 guys to do them, you won’t be doing any further damage.
          Marry a virgin = 14% chance of divorce in 10 years.
          Marry a woman with 3 or more sexual partners = 45% chance of divorce in 10 years.
          (and if you fuck them before you marry them, they no longer are in the virgin bride category)

  43. Now the real question is, is anyone willing to admit they are close to or even over 4 digits?

    1. Haha. That drummer’s from my hometown. He opened a music store after touring with Nuge.

      1. No sh*t?
        That’s pretty damn cool!
        I went to grade school with a kid that ended up on the Weather Channel. Not so cool…

        1. Haha, yea my best friend growing and his dad went hunting with Nugent once, friends of friends or something… and another guy that got me into construction when I was 18 did the whole “Nugent Deer Ranch” expedition down in Texas, met him, hunted and hung out for a weekend with a dozen people or so.

  45. 100 women isn’t that many. 8 women per year for 10 years is 96. Not a big deal. A close mentor of mine was a successful traveling salesman in the 70s and 80s. The stories he tells about banging chicks sound like a cross between saturday night fever and boogie nights. Even in his 50s I saw him dating 20 year olds. In fact, his generation had more sex than any other according to this study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25940736
    So let go of the guilt fellas. Even if you want to have a family, every bang makes you a better man.

  46. But the lessons I learned back them about the effectiveness of the dark
    triad have not gone to waste since I can now playact them at will.     “playact” that is about what it takes to make my game work as well, just that it’s not so much “at will” but after a certain amount of psyching up. Was interesting to read about Troy’s background I never knew. Narcissism, Machiavellianism and Psychopathy.. I don’t think the Machiavelli one is that evil, it’s needed in the modern world, is just a certain planned element to your own interests, wouldn’t mind strengthening that one a bit..

  47. I honestly do not think how many girls a man has had is a reflection on his character. Men are not women-let’s get that right.
    How ‘bad’ were you really? Did you kick kittens to death? Kill anybody? Sorry for being glib, but everybody has their own definitions of badness.
    Women like men who make them feel emotions. Beta males are boring, but can a man be ‘too’ bad?
    See I think women like men who are IDGAF but not evil. There is a difference. Women often find out the man who is just the ‘right’ amount of bad boy is TOO bad then they sort of rationalise his behaviour. ‘Oh he didn’t MEAN to hit her and so on’ but there’s only so much hamstering they can do as regards really bad behaviour. Always remember women want the romance as well as the sex; she needs COMFORT, too. How can she be comfortable with a man when she fears he may attack her?
    It’s a question of balance.

  48. I have never seen the thousand pussy stare on a man’s face. That tells a lot.

  49. No because they have lost the ability to pair bond after being on the cock carousel for so long. They may be good people but not good marriage material.

  50. There is a very basic physiological reason why it is socially acceptable for men to sleep around. Unlike female orifices, our equipment does not ware out with use. Unless you are porn star I don’t believe women a have a problem with “man-whores” if man in question is capable of commitment of course.

  51. We men often get down on women for being promiscuous. We miss the fact that cheap sex is also degrading to men. Not to the same degree as women, but it is not an honorable thing to grow your notch count for the fun of it.
    Also, at least part of the modern woman’s out of control promiscuity is because we men have been giving approval cues to women when they talk or act slutty. We need to lead the way on this and lead women into something better.

  52. Well when you start to notice the pattern that all females behave the same in our corrupted society, you start to desensitize yourself…..

  54. This young lady is hopefully the canary in the mine. Of course when she brings up the testimonials you have to read carefully between the lines that the ladies still minimize their behavior & their responsibility. Time will tell if those women are being true or not.

    1. I agree with her but she is still alittle behind. First off she never went around asking men what they want. Second of all she has not come to the realization that with the internet even young women before they ever have sex can see porn, can read this site and other sites like this, can read about gaming and listen to PUA’s online, listen to Tom Leykis etc. I should point out older women lash out at Tom but young women and even virgin women just hear what he says. These young women will learn men are not any better then their fellow sisters. She also forgets some of the liberal side is more sophisticated. The sophisticated side will say you do not have to sleep around you best option is a education and a good job. They will also point out that in the past some house wives were dumped for a younger woman and were out of luck in the job market. I do not think anyone is born rich. You have to work for what you get in this world. I also think being married does not me a woman will be economically secure.

    2. The sources,
      Interesting reading, essentially it says marry a virgin (virgin = no sex until 1 month from marriage) or you will be divorced. Also interesting that the religion (or none) beliefs of the woman made no difference, just her virginity.
      The video,
      It also connects the dots between promiscuity and ‘soul damage’. A female with 1 former sexual partner is as damaged as a man with 19 former sexual partners.

  55. So much bs. Just bang as many as those pigs possible when you are young….guilt free, eventually you will wish you used more of them than you did.

  56. That Jeremy Meeks guy was put in prison for 3 years for possessing a firearm? Hell that aint no crime. He’s a softy.

  58. You’re disgusting and tainted. I imagine most of the women you “moistened” were damaged goods, alcoholics, like yourself and/or prescription drug addicts. You’re DNA has been tainted and ravaged for eternity. You cannot nor will ever be the person you were truly born to be. I hope you lust was worth it you dirty fallen piece of tripe.

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