Is it a coincidence that the best countries to find women in are the same ones where abortion is a crime? Think Thailand, Brazil, Costa Rica, the Philippines, Poland, and Argentina. If not outright illegal, abortions are heavily restricted there, with massive fines if not jail sentences for doctors that violate the rules. In Thailand, every abortion requires a court order.
The worst countries for finding a woman—the U.S., Canada, Sweden, etc.—have abortion available on demand and even subsidized by the state. And women have been getting worse in those countries as abortions become more available.
Abortion hasn’t always been legal in the U.S. As recently as 1967, abortion was a felony in 49 of the 50 U.S. states, until activist judges whittled away at the restrictions, finally eradicating most of them in the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision, which effectively made abortion legal across the country.
This unleashed the ultra-hypergamous dating and marriage culture that men suffer under today.
The good old days
Back when abortion was a crime, you could be a decent guy with a middle-class or even lower-middle class job and you would probably be able to find a reasonably virtuous woman to marry and start a family with. You didn’t even have to have game — just be a decent person. There was a reason. Although the Pill had been approved by the FDA in 1960, an “accident” with the wrong guy could ruin a woman’s life.
“Getting pregnant without being married was wrong, and if a girl did get pregnant then she and the boyfriend who had gotten her in that fix were supposed to get married,” writes Charles Murray on 1963 America in Coming Apart. “These were conventional views shared across the political spectrum.” In that sexual marketplace, nice guys weren’t invisible: they were the only sensible option.
But since the 1970s, American women have had a “choice” whether to saddle a man with a pregnancy or terminate the unborn child and look for a different father. This has distorted the sexual marketplace, creating the perverted dating scene we have today. Roe created new generations of arrogant, entitled women—and a generation of dateless, dis-empowered and desperate men.
Men foolishly bought into abortion in the 1970s, thinking it would liberate them from unwanted fatherhood and turn men’s lives into hedonistic sex fantasies. Male sexual liberationist heroes of the day, like Hugh Hefner, donated heavily to Planned Parenthood. But men should have seen that abortion was a ruse, like the pornography Hefner peddled. The future that was being created would mean less sex for the vast majority of men, and turn the nuclear family into an endangered species.
Abortion perverts the balance of nature
By perverting the balance nature, abortion corrupted women and actually made commitment-ready men less attractive. “Choice” meant that women could now strategically target high-status males with a “chosen” pregnancy while the “wrong” pregnancies, produced with attractive but irresponsible bad boys, could be conveniently snuffed out in the womb.
No woman better exemplifies this arrogance than feminist columnist Jessica Valenti, who wrote about her abortion experience in her new memoir.
Abortion lover Jessica Valenti
“I had a job, money, and enough family support to have a baby,” she wrote in her memoir, Sex Object. “But I also had a shitty boyfriend, a lingering love for an even shittier ex-boyfriend, and was in the process of finishing my first book.” In Thailand, she would have needed a court order to terminate the pregnancy she had with her “shitty” boyfriend.
In the post-Roe sexual marketplace, women can freely fuck the bad boys without consequences. If a high-status guy does show up, she can either get pregnant with him or marry him. Valenti did eventually find a high-status man to marry, bearing a kid with him before having yet another abortion.
Choosing who pro-creates
For high-status men who don’t want to get married, the post-Roe dating marketplace became one where they have to effectively abort their own ability to pro-create to avoid being unwillingly “chosen”. The whole purpose of purchasing a costly male vasectomy is the ability to present a paper in front of a judge that effectively says, “He couldn’t be the father.”
Perhaps not coincidentally, less than two years after Roe v. Wade, the U.S. child support enforcement system was set up to ensure that government power would guarantee that the ‘chosen’ providers would pay up whatever the state demanded. A disturbed or immature woman now had no need to grow up and form a nuclear family to grab financial resources from a sperm donor. She could marry him or, if he wasn’t up for that, hit him with a lucrative support order. It helps to score a celebrity: Eddie Murphy paid $60,000 a month, Mel Gibson $20,000 a month, Donald Trump half a million a month. No surprise the “choice” in these cases was to keep the baby.
A pregnancy from a “shitty” guy, like the ones Jessica Valenti fucked, can simply be snuffed out in the womb. If the guy’s rich, you just keep the baby. “Pro-choice” has been hypergamy crystallized.
Which brings us to the “normal” middle-class guys, neither “shitty” nor high-status, that used to serve as the safe choice for a woman. These guys were the dating ideals of 1963 — eager to commit, marry and father children. There was one for every woman. (And a woman for every man.)
Well, they are the official losers of the post-Roe dating marketplace. In today’s sexual marketplace, there are the “shitty” hot guys women have abortions with, and then the high-status providers they actually have babies with. The middle-class “decent” guys — the ones that once formed the basis of nuclear families for a thousand years or more — are un-chosen for either sex, marriage or fatherhood. Once the ideal mate, they are now invisible.
If you are one of these guys, you have to try hard to be “shitty” so you can at least get laid once in a while. But have a kid or a family? Think again. You need status for that.
Abortion is the disease that created this perverted marketplace — not a symptom of it, but the cause.
The wisest thing for single American men who want a wife to do has been to get out of the country and go to places where abortion is still restricted, and many are doing that. Why are women so wonderful in Thailand? The reason is Article 305 of the Thai Penal Code, which states that abortion is illegal unless a woman has been raped or the pregnancy threatens her life.
A woman’s ‘choice’ to destroy Western Civilization
“Choice” is at the very cornerstone of feminism’s open agenda to undermine and destroy the nuclear family and Western civilization along with it. In fact, self-identified “pro-life” feminists were banned from participating in anti-Trump women’s marches because “inclusivity is not about bolstering those who harm us“, as Valenti put it.
“Choice” is codified by cultural Marxists in the mainstream media and educational institutions as a precious human right, more sacred even than Freedom of Speech. In December, Lena Dunham admitted she hadn’t had an abortion “but I wish I had” because sharing abortion stories had become so empowering for women. Perhaps it shouldn’t be a surprise that the Soviet Union was the first nation to legalize abortion in 1921.
The man who will end of Roe v. Wade?
The reason there were so many tears from feminists on the night of Trump’s surprise election was the threat he poses to Roe v. Wade. Now with the likely retirement of swing voter, Justice Anthony Kennedy, and the advancing years of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Trump seems likely to swing the court against abortion.
Unlike so many other institutions set up to dis-empower men, the abortion status quo is actively opposed in the United States. 70 percent of the public believes abortion should be illegal under some circumstances, and 20 percent believes it should be outlawed under every circumstance.
If Roe v. Wade can be overturned, it won’t just end a morally questionable, and probably murderous industry — it may save the American sexual marketplace, and Western Civilization with it.
Read More: How To Deal With Intense Male Competition In The Sexual Marketplace
Sad ugly truth is that with Abortion Legal and Contraception freely available the rule is Without the Consequences to Mr. Wrong Who Needs Mr. Right? Besides all the innocent blood spilled by this evil all abortion has done is empower women to be whores and the messed up society we have is the result.
It’s playing out with how many men are accepting carousel riders who either already have bastard children, or may have a woman who creates a bastard children while with them. Never in my years as a child did I expect to step into a world where people pay child support under the ruse that it isn’t the kid’s fault their mother cheated on them, so the ‘kid’ should receive child support.
To the writer’s point, smart men do seem to be marrying Brazilian women and bringing them to America, or marrying them here, at a pretty high rate. Haven’t run across many women from Thailand who seemed to be married but maybe they just aren’t in the Midwest.
Ask any Brazilian red pilled man and he’ll tell you that Brazilian women are feminists.
Of course, for the last decade, they have been touted as some of the best looking in the world. It is going to their heads. Same will happen with Asian girls in the coming decade.
The brazilian from big cities, like Rio and SP. The country brazilians are still religious and didn’t submit to the new trendy way of life.
“Brazil – humans at their most beautiful, humanity at its ugliest”
-Ghandi
If everything truly goes in cycles (and I fully believe this), we need an article on the NEXT good place for quality women. IE what that is a cesspool now haha.
You’re right about Asian girls. I would say as a whole Asians are currently the best subgroup of women to date. But Asian American girls are some of the most awful, extreme, disgusting feminists there are. It’s not about the race, it’s about the culture. Asians could nosedive worse than even our white women have.
Can I find all these Ghandi quotes in that 80s movie that somehow bested The Right Stuff for best flick of the year?
Octopussy? or Risky Business?
Either way, the answer is yes.
Anyplace with no smartphones or access to Real Housewives of whatever city…
“Roger Moore was a shitty James Bond. Yeah, I said it” — Abraham Lincoln.
So… the moon?
Haha, I heard Hollywood is looking “ahead” to new markets on the moon to pedal their garbage- so maybe not.
Inuit bitches have neither Ive been told, high IQs too, but way too frigid
Eskimo pussy is mighty cold.
one of the better bad movies Ive seen recently:
come to think of it there were a SHITLOAD of good movies that year!
http://www.imdb.com/search/title?year=1983,1983&title_type=feature&sort=moviemeter,asc
So in other words, my house. Gotcha.
You live inside a faraday cage? think thats a money-makin opp spicy
“Ghandi came to Brazil once, he took twelve grams of Kratom and fought me on top of a lighthouse. Ghandi’s no Dhalsim.”
-Blanka
“Ghandi doesn’t realize – I’m coming up in the world”
-Benny Blanco (from the Bronx)
They’re also materialistic as f*ck.
Brazilian women, There is a community of black American guys living in Brazil, black women hate them.American black women are worst than their white counterpart.
If you wish to meet Thai mail order brides go to Sweden. Sweden has the highest percentage of men marrying Thai women of any Western country.
That’s insane! I remember seeing a Swedish woman a few years ago who had a boyfriend at that time. Blonde, great eyes, greater smile, and curvy. How are the men leaving Swedish women untouched or have the women gone full feminist? Either way, crazy times.
Looking more like the latter case. How things got so bad that Swedish men would come to bypass the fine menu of Scandinavian pussy like that is worthy of archaeological excavation level examination.
It’s a damn shame. Swedish women are some of the few most can agree are universally pretty. Like Brazilian women. Or Spaniard women.
The system has been clear in its operation for decades if not centuries. Grab the man with in reach and make him responsible for the child.
The TL;DR of the article, this comment is in a few words the whole article.
I think abortion is morally repugnant in all but the most extreme cases. That said, I don’t favor ending it. I see it as Darwinism in action, and it provides me a quick and easy way to size up the worth of a woman. True that in the past it was illegal, but that didn’t mean the nature of women was different (I’m reminded of the phrase “overpaid, oversized and over here” about WWII GIs). What it meant was a lot of secretive back alley bullshit, or a lot of cuckoldry (probably more of the latter).
What I think is worse than abortion is birth control, which basically untethered risk from sex for females at the expense of males. Basically, the chick now determines who impregnates her, which is fine, except that the man often has no say in the matter, is taken completely by surprise and then financially raped for two+ decades by the system over a kid he never contemplated having because his misplaced his trust in the wrong woman.
That said, I’m not eager to go back to pre-birth control days either – rather, I think the solution is male contraceptives like Vasalgel, combined with a healthy return of social shaming and ostracism for whoring around. No need to force kids to be born to unfit parents and ruin their innocent lives too. Just show young women that “empowered” carousel riders end up bitter and lonely (for the most intolerable ones), or settling for something far less satisfying than they could have had (married to beta chump, struggling to conceive weak offspring).
Vasalgel sounds risky:
the treatment was judged to have unacceptable side-effects, including
depression, acne and increased libido, which caused 20 men to drop out
of the study and ultimately led to the trial be stopped earlier than
planned.
The trial involved injections of two hormones. A long-acting form of
progestogen was designed to act on the pituitary gland to switch off
sperm production. Testosterone was added to offset a drop in the male
hormone triggered by the progestogen. “You need the testosterone to feel
OK,” said Anderson
You’re not talking about Vasalgel. What you describe is not Vasalgel, which consists of one shot of a polymer into the vas deferens to physically block sperm. You’re talking about hormone therapy, which has had side effects. Vasalgel has had no reports of serious side effects. They have actually been studying the equivalent (RISUG) in India in actual humans for quite a long time (15 Years) with no serious negative side effects reported.
Check it out: https://www.parsemus.org/projects/vasalgel/
I myself struggle morally for the same “logic”. We must have free will, however, natural selection or Darwanism theory is at play here, even with homosexuals this theory applies. The less they stay in the closet and have pseudo heterosexual relationships, with the chance of reproducing, is a good thing. Nevertheless I agree wholeheartedly with many of your comments and the author of this article. At the root these actions and scientific advances used immorally, destroy morality among men and women ultimately destroying Society.
Gay men reproduce often with a female surrogate.
…I digress
I highly doubt the abortion will ever end in the USA. Why? Every side needs their “Emmanuel Goldstein”. For the Republicans, that’s abortion. For the Democrats, it’s guns. Gobs of cash are raised for/against these “causes”. Get rid of the causes, the funding goes too.
And those that get paid from these causes aren’t going to let that happen.
And of course, on a bigger, global scale, it absolutely is a mechanism as to who can reproduce. Social engineering in action.
I’ll bet Jewish babies are the least likely to be aborted as well. The (((powers that be))) probably like abortion in that regard.
It depends who the fathers are. There’s a lot of promiscuity prior to marriage. If they’re fooling around with the goyim, it’s just fun. If they are settling down and starting a family with a good Jewish boy, its verboten.
Anybody hear of Muslim abortions?
yeah they toss the fetus off the roof (while its still in the mother)
see my comment above…she is Muslim (but not a pious Muslim, she says…obviously)
If a woman wants to have an abortion, although the decision may profoundly affect the father and his reproductive rights not to mention the unborn child which has none, it is ultimately her body and her choice. The only thing that I ask is that for each aborted pregnancy the mother draw a chalk outline where the kid died. This helps with forensics
whoa.
tattoo on her belly of a chalk outline?
it could be seen as a fashion statement as well as an admission of guilt
scarlet letter
yeah that kind of thing
they’d just “rock it” and make it “into a thing”…..
morons…
It would serve as consumer protection, except if the lights are out.
Ahh leave the MILFs alone (Murderers I’d Like to Fuck)
O that’s genius…..
I propose that for entry into our dikhead lexicon!
What can I say, this is a topic that always gets me on my A game. Abortion brings out the child in everyone.
brings out the child, and flushes it right down the hopper!
You forget the part where they shove a needle in its head.
Or surgical scissors into the skull if the child has viability outside the womb.
God, what kind of monster does that? At some point that “doctor” was a human being with potential in the world. Then he, through a long series of rationalizations and choices, devolves into a monster that stabs viable living babies in the head and feels none the worse for wear. That’s just demonic.
If you have to kill it, then it was alive, and its not just sucking out a lump of cells.
Yep. There is no gray area here. None. If it can live on its own (biologically, not “needs provided” such as food, etc) then there is no wiggle room at all. Doctors who do this are the epitome of evil.
“tattoo on her belly of a chalk outline” lol, that would be a killer meme.
“killer meme”- I see what ya did there
They should have to observe at an abortion clinic for 12 months.
not a bad idea. Even a day would be assist in making an actually informed decision
Women don’t visualize the consequences of their emotional decisions. I think a bit of hands-on experience would be a deterrent. They used to show pregnancy videos and STD slides in school to scare the shit out of kids. I think watching the process of sucking out a baby and discarding it would be more helpful.
Just like Drivers Ed.
Blood On The Highway – My inspiration for inventing teleportation so as to avoid driving, when I was 15 and a half years old.
I seriously think something like that could have genuine pragmatic and educational value. It doesn’t necessarily have to be heavy handed just aimed at helping girls (and boys if they are to be party to the decision) to understand the consequences of their actions
Women having the right to abort without consent of the father is equivalent to men having the right to butcher newborns without the mother’s consent.
The only (sort of) net positive that came from roe vs. Wade was a rather large crime drop which started in the mid 90s. post – wade Dindu Nuffins were being voluntarily snuffed before birth by their economically destitute Aunt Jemima’s when they would have inevitably been a major crime risk their whole teen and adult lives had they been born.
That’s it though, and I certainly wish there was another way of reducing crime rather than the fringe effects of roe vs. Wade. Abortion has indeed been a bane for the sexual prospects of the All American “I’m not gonna run out on you” Nice Guy.
That’s correlation, not causation. Recall, from the early 1990’s forward concealed carry was sweeping the land. It can easily (and like, really easily) be posited that this is the reason for the crime drop.
Not so in the disarmed cities though. Hubert’s theory (which I’ve heard before) DOES have legs: less unfit single mothers=less unruly asshole kids 15 yrs later.
Blue cities are huge crime zones (the ones who legally disarm you). Big cities where they have no choice but to have armed people, less crime.
Unwanted pregnancy will ruin a woman. If they choose to have it and become a single mother, they ruin any prospects for a decent life for herself or the kid. If she chooses to abort, she is killing her own offspring. As much as she justifies or lies to herself about it, she knows it. That in itself will create mental issues. Any wonder there are so many deranged women today?
Shit A or Shit B. That’s the simple set of choices for stupid women
I bet plenty of people against abortions would be pro abortion when it comes to SJW, blek kriminals etc.
Brilliant observation!
Serious question: Can a woman that has an abortion every truly be trusted?
In all but the most extreme cases, my answer would be “no”. Ending a life for the cause of personal convenience is classic sociopathy….what’s next? Shooting someone over a parking space?
As I commented elsewhere woman who has an abortion is permanently damaged goods. She has hamstered her way into sabotaging her most basic biological function for convenience or thoughtlessness. She has rejected the very core of her biological function. Once she has taken that step, she is literally (H) capable of anything.
“what’s next? Shooting someone over a parking space?”
Oh it’s been done.
What is next is accusing a random guy of rape, and ruining his life if not resulting in the end of it, to get an extension on your book report. Currently there is no downside to this and sharing “I am a rape survivor” stories is a feminist right of passage.
It’s not too late. MEN in the west must take the matters into their hands. I am sure that Donald Trump being elected as President is a “shining RAY of HOPE”.
Accusing men of rape for trivial reasons has long been acceptable practice. That boat sailed a couple hundred years ago or more. Traditionally the woman would be taken at her word and the resulting mob would then get “justice” for her.
She can also give the child up for adoption. But that life is not as important as her precious feelbads.
If one good thing comes out of the “sexual revolution” western men will have a thorough and realistic understanding of the nature of women.
Many women have abortions while minors, coerced or outright forced to submit to abortion. All too often the one coercing/forcing is the incestuous rapist: her stepfather, brother (half- and step-brothers are notorious), even her blood father, uncle, grandfather, cousin.
While we should have sympathy for such women, do you really want to tie yourself legally to a woman who most likely has severe mental issues (“fcuked-UP)? “Tie legally” can easily include sticking your dcik in her babymaker.
Especially if she was white and the poor sap had dark complexion.
A lot of what you say is true, but I would take issue with the “Many” part of your first statement. I don’t think this kind of thing occurs as much as certain people like to make us think.
Even without the points you mentioned, post abortion trauma is extremely common. Despair, depression, guilt, suicide. These are just the obvious ones, the tip of the iceberg. Most are probably walking wounded the rest of their lives. That’s why 25 percent are on.meds.
If you think you see too many rape survivor stories it’s because there are still too many men and women being raped.
Actually, the stress and complications from pregnancy and birth make carrying to term impossible for some women.
Also, in other news: s*** goes wrong in life. Thank you for contributing nothing.
Sue me for–erroneously, evidently– assuming the men here were smart enough to read between the lines. If a pregnancy and birth pose threats to the mother’s health or the baby will have a severely depressed quality of life, the healthy decision for most mothers is to terminate the pregnancy. Unless the survival of women ONLY matters when they’re able and willing to shit out a kid (which I’m assuming is the true philosophy of most of the men here).
The vast majority of pregnancies aren’t going to kill a mother, and the vast majority of kids aren’t going to have severely depress quality of life. Abortion is overused and simply a feminist way to control sexuality and reproduction.
Basically you are full of shit.
Did I say “the vast majority” in either case? I don’t think I did. Just because you’re an ignorant buffoon doesn’t mean I’m full of shit; you can try to put words in a woman’s mouth whenever you don’t like what she says but she’ll see right through your bullshit.
So, if kids never severely depress quality of life–are you up for raising a boatload of them starting right now? Say, a new one every year starting with the one that forces your shotgun marriage? (And what about the quality of life for those kids?) Or would you rather have the number of kids you’re ready to raise, when you’re ready to raise them?
You seem to be making a very broad accusation that males tend to sexually abuse their female relatives. By saying “All too often”, you are implying that this happens in greatly significant numbers. Do you have any sources to back that up? If not, I suggest you STFU.
What we do know. is that female promiscuity has increased exponentially since both abortion and the contraceptive pill were introduced/legalised. Looking at that, one would have to assume the general increase in female activity and lessening of females’ responsibility for their sexuality creates the market for abortion.
Whilst I do no deny there would be a small number of younger girls impregnated by male relatives, I have yet to see evidence that this is common enough to justify the barbaric practice of abortion. Given that contraceptives are readily available in western societies, I suggest that abortion is generally only used by women who voluntarily choose to have sex without being prepared to take any responsibility for it.
Keep in mind we live in a society whereby women don’t have to take responsibility for anything they do.
Exceptional situations should OBVIOUSLY be waved. We are talking about the overrall impact of abortion, not about when it should be allowed.
… A part of the overall impact of abortion is that women can choose to opt out of the most physically dangerous biological event of their lives, JFC.
Right. Let’s be blunt. You know very well that we are not talking about exceptions, you also know very well that the discussion is specifically about the socially destructive aspects of abortion on demand. You know you can’t argue the facts, so you are trying to derail the conversation with some BS about how your aunts sisters brothers cousin Susy got raped by 5 Muslims and is about to die.
You aren’t fooling anybody with the “little miss autistic” act.
What you are doing is completely and absolutely selfish. You would burn down the entire society so that you can have your consequence free affairs. And you are doing it by pretending to be hyper concerned about the rights of some exception who NOBODY in this discussion is interested in limiting.
It’s not just bullshit Ellen, it’s obvious and disgusting bullshit.
There is something called “adoption” genius.
Your stupidity is actually hilarious. Thanks for providing the laughs this morning!
Stress and complications make it so I can’t work everyday, and need fresh pussy 5 times a day.
So we should nuke Bangladesh?
That’s hilarious, comparing the mundane problems you have to something like pregnancy. Here’s a hint; if you need to have sex that many times a day you’re what they call a sex addict. Good luck not falling on your face the next time you try to make a point.
Not being able to spot sarcasm is a sign of low intelligence.
I spotted your sarcasm and saw right through it… unless you really weren’t trying to make a hateful point abortion, in which case you’re more than welcome to mansplain both your point and “sarcasm” to me. 🙄
That would at least be somewhat sensible.
But killing the most innocent life that hasn’t done anything to you?
That’s a pretty crappy attempt to save face. Just face it. You have relied on pussy your whole life; take that away and you’re socially illiterate.
Thats nice.
Social literacy can only be achieved if you have a vagina… riiiiiiiiiight. Sense, you’re making none.
a woman who has had an abortion can be trust just as much as every other single woman
Which is to say, not at all.
Although I think it goes deeper in this case, insofar as if you can justify killing your own child, you are probably one who likes to hide scissors under the pillow for some midnight penis harvesting. In your case that wouldn’t matter, but many to most men don’t mind a girl staying overnight.
I don’t buy that it is killing. I am on the simple medical procedure which gets some lump of homunculus cells out of the body team. I know that puts me in the minority. I am not going to argue it here as much smarter people than me and the rest of the folks here have failed to come to a consensus in more years than one may know.
That said, even if it was killing an unborn living thing I am still ok with it. The little womb turd is attached to the woman and can’t make it on its own without the sustenance from the mother. Tough titties if the mother decides to cut the chord….literally (hitler).
oh but yes, you are correct…no trust is appropriate for all women from the virgin mary to the crack whore latefqa
Not going here dude. It’s killing. First and last, it’s killing. If it’s three cells, ok, some wiggle room. Once there’s a heartbeat, it’s a living thing in the sense of “being human”.
In any event, that’s an aside to my actual point about mental stability.
Indeed the host has dominion over the fetus, just like adult parents have some dominion over their minor child. The decision ultimately rests with the mother.
so you say. I say you are wrong. Whatever, doesn’t matter. I will stick to where we agree. Gub shouldn’t be paying for it.
I am actually so pro abortion that I think you should be able to abort right up until the child has a full time job and moves out of the house. Little johnny is 13 and really a rotten kid…lets go to PP
You are absolutely correct on this, GOJ. Normal, real men feel biologically compelled to protect the weak and defenseless. And it doesn’t get any weaker or defenseless than an unborn child. Whose heart is actually beating after just a couple of weeks.
The “men” who are OK with abortion don’t possess normal male instincts, in my opinion. And are contributing to societal degeneracy by not respecting that tiny human life.
I see both pros and cons to abortion, but if it’s available, I’m fully on board with Gubmint paying for it. It’s a simple case of pay me now or pay me later, and it’s a whooooooole heck of a lot cheaper to take care of it early.
One abortion: $500
Lifetime of free housing, SNAP, welfare, EBT, Earned Income Tax Credit, education, medicaid: $500,000+ ?
That’s long-term, societal blackmail. No es beuno.
No, let women fund their own fucking immorality, in what world did it become my place to not only be forced to support them through government regs and laws, but to suddenly now be responsible for their opening their slutty twats to strange men.
No. Just no.
ugh, when you put it that way.
Can we say that as a comprehensive package the gubment shouldn’t pay for anything regarding these little womb turd whether it is cheaply disposing of them or paying a fortune on their lives? However, given your point here, the Cost Benefit Analysis works in favor of abortion I can’t deny
I understand what you are saying but the results on the ground are so totally incongruous.
A few years back I had to evict the nastiest tenant I’ve ever encountered. I was in her unit carrying out plastic bags of dirty diapers she left on the floor, along with all her kid’s toys and clothing, garbage and food everywhere. It was disgusting. She was a high school classmate of mine, used to be a high school cheerleader but threw it all away and became degenerate.
Fast forward a few years, I’m in late 30s, considering starting a family, I’m over there renting to a new tenant when this adult woman comes up to me and asks if I know of any section 8 (free) housing for her and her children. She was the DAUGHTER of the classmate I evicted! So this original deadbeat who is my age is now a grandmother, and the whole family is on public assistance. PS There is no expiration date for section 8 housing subsidies. You are funding their immorality, you just don’t see it.
My take is that the solution is to stop funding immorality altogether, not expanding it because “defunding would be too hard”. Incrementalism works both ways, we need to come to understand this. We won’t repeal welfare/adc/medicaid/etc. overnight, but we should start chipping away at it. Adding more “fund my choices” is counter productive in the long run towards liberty.
I hope I remain such an optimist when I am your age. I mean that as a true compliment! If more of us just stuck to what we truly believe, we COULD eliminate funding the immorality.
But the realist side of me sees how no single gubmint program is ever walked back. That is why we are permanently stuck with the TSA. With Obamacare. With whatever your least favorite government program is. It is not going away. It is getting a budget increase this year!
That’s because the prevalent meme in political groups is “go along to get along” instead of “stick to principles”. Change the culture and assumptions over time and I guarantee you that government programs will disappear. Just going along with surrender as the first option and then more “fixes” that require government is not the path we want to be walking down.
I was going to write before I saw this post: Cheaper to spend $500 and flush the problem then to pay FOR GENERATIONS of trash.
Fuck, I’d offer tax credits to trash to GET abortions…but they’d have to (legally) work to qualify for a credit…
The ironically named “earned income” tax credit doesn’t require one to work, but instead just to spawn, and you can receive money. You can be unemployed the whole year, but file a tax return and get a check from the IRS if you have children. Sounds shocking but it’s true…
Which is a good argument for eliminating the income tax entirely, or if we *must* (there is no need really, but some people are still tied to financing their own prison wardens), a universal flat tax with no exemptions or write offs for anybody. Social engineering goes right out the fucking window, tax code wise.
And a million cpas are suddenly unemployed, roving the streets looking for brains to eat…..
Consequences, GOJ, consequences….
seem to remember some scandal about this a few years ago in Colorado. the state AG tried to stop it, you can probably guess how that turned out..
That’s actually a good thing. CPA’s can then focus on helping you manage finances and investments and not have to work with navigating stupid government red tape. Those that can’t, or who won’t adjust, will have to find gainful employment elsewhere. No net long term damage.
Good point. Their transformation into financial advisers would be most needed in our post-pension, individual-retirement-agency system.
Just sick. Thank you LBJ for “The Great Society”.
We’re all going to be replaced by robots pretty soon, anyway.
Better than inanimate carbon rods, I suppose….
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Just checked. The law was passed by Gerald Ford and expanded by Reagan. So much for conservative values.
Two sides. One coin.
I’m with you but, the ones who would really cost end up not getting them solely because of the paycheque attached to it.
The point is that without the existence of such hare-brained schemes, ther wouldn’t have been a second generation of bastards to speak of. She would have either mended her ways or just died some winters ago. Have you ever wondered why there were fewer bastards overall in the days of yore? A hint: it wasn’t because people were more moral…
At least you are logically consistent…
Illegals have figured out the kids don’t even have to live in the US, and the IRS doesn’t check to see if the kids, you know, actually exist. Hence returns claiming supporting 15 kids overseas somewhere….
Did you know majority of births to millennials are bastards?
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/zoey-dimauro/johns-hopkins-57-percent-children-born-millennials-are-out-wedlock
Being born out of “wedlock” is not the same as being a bastard (fatherless child). For example I may be married by the church (or any other religious group I belong too) but according to your laws (and the laws of the many countries), once the statistics are collected, my children would have been deemed as being born out of wedlock since my marriage was not “blessed” (or should I say cursed) by the State, regardless of the real marital status (are my wife and me living together?).
That’s the problem with you Americans who think that for a marriage to exist some fat bureaucrat has to provide an approval stamp or something like that. It would be far more interesting to see the statistics for fatherless children.
So you are in favor of late term abortions even where the fetus is delivered alive and left to die while the doctors watch?
Note that if a man injures or kills a pregnant woman in such a way that the fetus dies he is charged with murder of the unborn infant. But, if a pregnant woman kills the fetus, then it was just a bunch of cells.
Did you know that the majority of women in pre-revolutionary America were pregnant at the time of their weddings?
Were you expecting anything else from the uniparty system?
That was the law in Rome. The pater familias had the right of life and death over all in his family.
Hey, I couldn’t give 2 shits about state sanctioned marriage. What they call civil marriage has very little similarity to traditional marriage, anyway.
But throughout history, pretty sure bastard was used to describe any child born to an unwed mother. At least that’s how Game of Thrones portrays it.
Anyway, how else would one analyze the stats?
I agree, but only if permanent sterilization was included in that abortion procedure.
I could see that being possibly true, but I wonder how that was documented. I mean girls today are proud of their mistakes, but I’d be surprised if women were admitting that kind of info to anonymous pollsters in 1750.
It was determined by a meticulous examination of marriage and birth records (handwritten) from colonial America. Few babies survived being born 3 to 6 months premature in those days.
They are not legal so I am not in favor of them. I don’t break the law. If someone makes it legal I won’t be kicking up a fuss
Yeah but for statisticians that’s the only valid marriage in most cases.
Because normally unwed mother and single mother were synonyms until the advent of state sanctioned marriage and its primacy over religious marriage (the historical normal). Moreover GOT is as historical as Dungeons and Dragons is ….
How about children without a father at home (either biological or a man who has gone through the nuisance of adopting him legally and providing him with this surname). Current mother’s boyfriend doesn’t count 🙂
if a pcouple does marry it needs to be sanctioned between the minister and the couples respective family and friends , cut the state out of the equation . All that matters is that they are right in the eyes of god and their families .
May be but in the statistics their children will be lumped alongside those single mothers as “out of wedlock” births, thus distorting a little bit the numbers…
The solution is not abortion, it’s sterilization and I can not imagine a more triggering word. Suddenly everyone remembers the right to have children but not the responsibility to keep them.
And county after county makes renting to section 8 people mandatory if they pass the standards set with the government money. Of course at some future date it will just be mandatory.
Government pays because government can take the wealth from the decent men so women can take sexual risks. It is just a different form of the same game.
True.
I still don’t understand. How does one count “children without fathers at home” ?
It’s easy to tell from birth records whether the parents are related, and compile that data. Where does one get info about father living in the home, other than Census records which are once a decade in the US?
Perhaps that would be more effective but sterilization would require consent of the parent, how is that going to work out? Abortion is fully voluntary and therefore far more practical, even if less effective.
One way could be the child’s surname. Does he use his mother’s maiden name instead of his father’s? The other one would be census and regular polls…
Vote Repubican and get that shit cut so they end up in a literal poorhouse…where they belong. Fuck them.
All one has to do is google some abortion pictures. There’s a new thing called the internet….
I can google all sorts of things. Men who are women, moon landing hoaxes, Elvis in Virginia. Doesn’t change my mind. Further, even if it is alive idgaf. Abort that shit
That’s because you are a cuck.
Cucks don’t believe in eugenics.
Yeah, except you’re not killing your own child. Drama queen much?
I see we have an ACTUAL fiscal coservative in the house, instead of an idiot masquerading as one.
Just like when anyone lies on their tax return; they DO randomly check them and sometimes returns get flagged for whatever reason and then the person who lied is f*cked… Illegal, American Citizen, doesn’t f*cking matter. Quit trying to spin this into another way illegals are “getting over on us”. Jesus.
I’m actually FOR sterilization. Even for people with assets after a certain number of children, but especially in poverty ridden places. See, people are like locusts with language skills. We just keep breeding, consequences be damned. That’s why the world is in such a f*cked up state and getting worse. More people, same amount of resources. Basic f*cking math.
But when they charge the man with murdering the fetus, it’s not because they care about the collection of cells; it’s a way for them to extract a larger pound of flesh. But I’m sure you already knew that.
You ever sit down with IRS agents and talk to them about random checks? That’s not how it’s done– too little bang for the buck. If they audit you they want a high chance of a payoff. Typically they run databases and look for anomalies to get the most bang for the buck. Like a guy who owns a late model Mercedes claiming virtually no income. Or folks like my ex-inlaws who bought a house in a very nice neighborhood for cash and retired. Their income was well below the average for that area.
As for illegals gaming the Earned Income Credit in particular, and the IRS’s disinterest in cleaning up issues with EIC (and yes, anybody can do it– but the IRS can actually verify dependents in the US, while it is much harder for dependents overseas)
A fairly well sourced paper– If you’re really interested, their source documents are worth a read.
http://www.thesocialcontract.com/docs/tsc_earned_income_tax_credit_2013mar20.pdf
” Most ITINs are issued to illegal immigrants who reside in the U.S. Many do not work. They file Federal income tax returns solely to receive the child tax credit refund.
A 2011 Treasury Department study reports that the number of ITIN filers claiming the child credit nearly doubled from 2005 to 2008 – from 796,000 to 1,526,276.1″
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/report-massive-fraud-still-rampant-in-earned-income-tax-credit-program/article/2548376
” The inspector general’s use of the phrase “little progress” was too generous. In fact, EITC fraud in the latest period was unchanged from earlier years.
The new report found that the IRS is simply ignoring the requirements of a law called the Improper Payments Elimination and Recovery Act, signed by President Obama in 2010″
I’ll agree to abortion if the woman agrees to have her fellopian tubes cut.
They think the way to end fighting is to avoid fighting.
False dilemma. Fuck both abortion and welfare.
I’m fine with that. Really don’t care either way
Absolutely not!
If she has killed her own baby, what won’t she do to you?
My thoughts too.
Right. Because they reach into the crib and strangle her own baby to death. You sound like an SJW making a mountain out of a molehill. If you don’t like abortions, don’t have one.
Go ahead. Defend women killing their own babies – and yours. You are Captain Save A Hoe after all.
But no, it’s more like they see a 3D ultrasound of their own baby growing inside them, yawning, stretching in what should be the safest place on the planet.
Then she goes to a clinic to have it dismembered and expelled from her like a cancer.
The point is that women who do that, will also do this:
Have at ’em.
I’ve always been staunchly pro-choice. This article actually offers some valid points AGAINST abortion that are giving me serious food for thought. With that said; I am not defending women who have abortions or saying that I think abortion is right. I’m saying that they’re not f*cking murderers. And what do you say about the guys that talk their girlfriends into getting abortions? It’s a two way street.
I actually used the word ‘kill’ but am comfortable using ‘murder’ for something like partial-birth or third trimester abortion.
What about the men? I would say that abortion is producing legions of psychopaths – women and men – who have spun up their hamsters to rationalize killing. Then they walk away from that – with thick moral calluses – into larger society to wreck who-knows-what damage.
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Met a lovely SE Asia girl on a language exchange site. She was quite dreamy to me.
She told me she had an abortion.
Now when I think of her…all I can think of is a midwife performing a non-surgical SE Asian style abortion by slamming her in the abdomen followed by a tiny mangled body coming out of her…
Yuck.
That’s YOUR problem, not hers.
It’s her problem because she regrets it
It’s HER problem because SHE regrets it…
No. All of the women I have known who had abortions have been insane at best, psychotic at worst.
After all, what kind of person would kill their own baby?
I can’t disagree with you.
It’s murder. Abortion stops a beating heart. So a murderer would kill their own baby. Why date a murderer?
no
Well seeing as how I had an abortion for a pregnancy that a) was unwanted and b) made me throw up so much my doctors thought I might die unless I terminated the pregnancy and subsequently served as a nuclear launch officer for four years I would say “yes.”
For real?
Yes
No one cares about your guvmint job
be better for her not to just go spreading her legs without marriage then.
Not that it effects us Lotharios.. there will always be whores.
“Not that it effects us” Except through my taxes, what my children have to put up with, and how I have to continue to be vigilant to insulate myself and family from this corruption.
The nice thing about unwanted pregnancies is that it takes two people to have one. No reason for her to be a “single mother”. However, we live in a world where no one takes responsibility for themselves. A guy leaves contraception up to the woman. She gets pregnant and the guy she slept with is not the guy she wants to marry. She has a choice of killing the baby or having the State pay for it’s upbringing. She no longer has to think hard about who she sleeps with because she can get someone else to pay for her mistakes.
Part of the problem is that parents have abdicated their responsibility for choosing their offspring’s mate. We live in a society where the State teaches us that everyone is equal. The opinion of the child is equal to the opinion of the grandfather. Feelings are important not fact. Sex with whomever whenever is quickly becoming a virtue.
And the ultimate result is a state of perpetual childhood. Never growing up and taking adult responsibility.
Yup, government wants to take on the responsibility, because with that responsibility, comes control. The useless schlubs and welfare whores would rather pawn responsibility off to the government. Meanwhile, you and I are stuck footing the bill for bad behavior of someone else.
If she elects to kill the baby, the baby is taking the consequences of someone else’s bad behavior. Either way, those responsible are missing out on opportunity for growth.
“She no longer has to think hard…” If you think being faced with a child you don’t want and having to choose whether or not to have an abortion is easy for ANYONE, you’re deluded. Making smart decisions about whether or not you’re ready to be a parent or ready to put your body through pregnancy and birth is one of the heaviest decisions a potential mother and/or father can make; to imply that “killing the baby” (my favorite pro-life appeal to emotion) is an easy decision is disingenuous. I can’t believe anyone would be that naïve. And if you ARE, congratulations on having such a wonderful life.
Before you go off on an irrelevant rant about a quote absent context maybe you should read and consider the argument in full.
Adoption being the moral alternative.
In the mentioned countries you can illegally abort, if you have the money. But social conditioning is very great, no one is going to call a woman, brave. That is why the options must be weighed more carefully because in my country the welfare state is collapsed and men have a greater margin to disengage from a bastard. Even as in my case after a separation and to pay food quota, my children decided to live with me, so now the money flows in the opposite direction.
The men have a greater margin to disengage from a bastard? Those countries also have weak law enforcement; so when a guy knocks up my daughter and splits on her, I can just put a bullet in his skull and I probably won’t be prosecuted. But hey… he won’t have to pay child support either.
An excellent concluding sentence
You guys are complaining about abortion, there’s worse, in France now there’s some medicaly assisted pregnancy to lesbian couples AND single women. In others Words women are able to kill babies or to have some on their own without men. And sponsorised by the gov. Making men as a mere option to women is a step further in the destruction of a nation. And that’s happening here and now… Disgusting !
Well for guys too. I may have mentioned these to you before Jim, but a friend after college knocked up his gf that he had told me was the love of his life. One weekend he was calling her his fiancee, and two weeks later he broke up with her, after encouraging and paying for her to have an abortion.
Also, before my mom was born, her dad told her mom to get rid of twin boys, which she did. The only reason my grandma didn’t also abort my mom is that it just wasn’t as easy as walking into a Planned Parenthood like it is today. If it had been today, along with my mom, currently five people, and more in the future would never exist. I’m not sure how my grandpa lived with it?
Three things: 1- Abortion doesn’t “make a woman crazy” or contribute to poor mental hygiene. 2- Your (the general population of readers on here) definition of “crazy” doesn’t match any objective criteria; it’s purely based on what YOU believe women should do with their bodies (newsflash- your opinion is not, in fact, more correct than anyone else’s). 3- The frequency of abortions in the U.S. has generally been lower than that in other parts of the world, so maybe do some basic reading before stereotyping women on information that is blatantly false. https://www.cdc.gov/reproductivehealth/data_stats/abortion.htm
An excellent and necessary article. Several very important red-pill observations are made, the hardest hitting being the increased female hypergamy that abortion “allows.”
The dream of undesirable women is to be desirable, or to at least play in the sexual marketplace where they now have an artificial status. It’s anti-biology, and it’s confusing all the nice guy betas out there.
I was fanatically pro-abortion when my girlfriend was a few weeks late in high school.
Now I am fanatically anti-abortion.
Perhaps I should just stay out of the debate….
jesus bem , how late was she that you wanted to abort her? Couldn’t you just get a drink and flirt with a bartender?
Nope, you should definitely stay in the debate IMO
I want that comment laminated so I can carry it around to legitimize my often superfluous presence here!
you arent superfluous, you just do what most here do:
-blow by the article w/o reading it
-upvote the top 2 most upvoted comment to remain in good standing in the community
-post a youtube/jpeg/gif that is funny to get easy upvotes
Ive been doing this since day 1!!!
GET OUTTA MY HEAD MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANN!!!!!!!!!!!!
Has anyone ever seen bem and cheeseburger in the same place at the same time?
It quite likely happened once upon a time.
Lol
Suspicious…
Between birth control and especially the “morning-after pill” most unwanted pregnancies are already prevented before a girl needs to visit Planned Parenthood. You’ve nailed the history and consequences but it’s too late for overturning RvW to make much impact on the sexual marketplace.
Doesnt the morning after pill have the same negative ramifications abortion does, according to the author? If it’s really all about making women less loyal and promiscuous, the pill should have the same effect. Hell the birth control pill would as well.
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Gah, an abortion article. I predict a calm and reasoned discussion filled with many insights as well as civil exchanges, where everybody comes away with a new perspective.
Nah, who the hell am I kidding?
Yes, it’s still early in the day – give it some time.
doctors, scientists, theologians, philosophers have all argued every side of this thing to death. At the end of the day there is some faith involved. It isn’t an issue that can be proven the way that geometry can. Further, because it is a sensitive subject it brings out the absolute worst in people. I say maintain current belief whatever it happens to be and enjoy the shitstorm that is about to happen.
You and I disagree on this issue in all respects but one however…..and on this one and only one part of it I feel we are in total and complete agreement….forgetting every other aspect from moral to religious to medical to legal……the gubment has no business paying for this shit.
Agreed.
End of the day, it would be nice if discussions were this civil on this topic for everybody. We can present facts and sometimes those might sway opinion a bit, but generally we’re not going to agree. You’ll continue to hold your position even though it is wrong and I will continue to hold my position because it is correct.
Heh.
ha. Nice job elucidating. I can def see now why sense can’t be spoken to hicks
Well when you encounter one, let me know and I’ll be sure to bring him up to speed on all of the intricacies, values, principles and nuances regarding the topic.
I truly have no group I belong to fully. It would seem like that would be a detriment to life, but I find it rather interesting to be able to surf between cliques and groups at will. Redneck one day, very well read and educated intellectual the next, programmer the next, biker the next, etc. Lots of freedom to be had in good social adaptation skills.
don’t feel bad…I even consider people from the outer borroughs of new York hicks. And yes, we all know you have the same freedoms as the men and women of Somalia out there….
in the meantime, ill letcha toss one barb back to even out the symmetry and then we are going to just enjoy the oncoming shitshow that this obvious bit of clickbait is going to bring in while sticking to the fundamental agreement that government shouldn’t shell out a dime for this.
Only grown ups who have demonstrated maturity and self control rate having freedom. The rest need to be penned in like children and guarded by adults lest they hurt themselves.
Symmetry achieved. Heh.
Not sure how much I want to participate on this article. May just wait it out for the noon posting. At most I’m inclined to just smoke and joke and not get heated over this, nothing will change anybody’s mind on any side.
I am with you on this one. Tempers easily flare with this topic.
So- clearly you are saying females are not allowed to contribute, period, for one thing? Wait- I thought they were not allowed to post here anyway?
Yeah, wonder why that might be the case?
Not contributing would be dandy, although I do appreciate the infrequent and rather logical comment from cindy ella on occasion.
Isn’t Cinderella a dude…not sure on that one myself.
She claims to be a female.
Huh. Didn’t know that. Works in corrections, right…
dont they all, in their mind?
Hahahaha.
Because it is a matter of belief, not science. You believe the fetus is a human being, you believe one way, if you believe it is just a mass of tissue, you believe the other.
Yep, there is a fundamental premise conflict. If you can’t agree on that initial point, there is no ability to reconcile. Then it’s just about who should pay for what and who should have what kind of rights in the matter.
I think it’s a matter of denial more than mere belief. If we were to be coherent, based on the biological findings, the fetus is a human being since the development of fetus into a human baby (barred any untimely death) is a deterministic event, not a stochastic one (there are 0% probabilities of cub, a kitten or chick crawling out of that womb by natural means, is not a like “seed” in a simulator with random parameters). Hence, trying to deny humanity to the fetus is as incoherent as saying old-timers are not humans since they lost most of the capabilities they had when young…
Arguments in favour of abortion as not a murderous practice (denying humanity to the fetus) have been spurious and incoherent so far and not even a moral frame is necessary to recognize the practice for what it is…infanticide. However humans are seldom rational, they are rationalizing beings, hence the need for ethics, religious codes, etc to regulate human behaviour throughout history, otherwise logic can be used to justify virtually anything (like in this case).
were short about 60 million taxpayers , thats what r oe v wade accomplished
They wouldn’t have been taxpayers. We’re short that many welfare babies
maybe maybe not
The question isn’t whether it’s a human being so much, at least not in the third trimester, but why humanity is valued in the first place. If it’s a totality of the circumstances/utilitarian test for value, then even someone who acknowledges that a fetus is a human being and may have some value, can and will nonetheless find its value outweighed by other considerations. Namely, hedonism.
Or liberty and equality, if you will.
Roosh hasn’t enforced the don’t respond to females thing in years I’m afraid. Every so often a horde of angry feminists show up and shout a lot for a while, but it’s usually of short duration. The odd woman who turns up to comment is never banned, so I usually just ignore the comment unless there’s something there of particular value to the conversation.
“the gubment has no business paying for this shit.”
I’ve long believed that all of the Republican versus Democrat, conservative versus liberal, left versus right stuff was all just crap… I’ve long felt that it was just bread and circuses to distract us. The elites that run the political parties are a political aristocracy that have much more in common with one another than they do with the average man. The are one party, not two, the ruling party, and all the “fighting” we see is (ironically) a little like professional wrestling — its just distracting entertainment for the masses.
The only political spectrum that really matters is the government authority spectrum — what authority do you believe the government should have? What you personally believe about abortion is relevant only to you and your family. The question is what authority you think government should have with respect to abortion. Should the government be able to outlaw it entirely? Should the government be able to promote it by funding free abortions? Should the government strictly regulate abortion facilitates so those facilities are rare and abortions are expensive? Should the government only provide the bare minimum of regulation for abortion facilities to make sure people who get abortions aren’t dying on the table.
Every political issue is like this. It doesn’t matter if you think a criminal should be executed if he commits murder. It matters if you believe the government should have the authority to execute citizens, and under what circumstances it should be able to exercise that authority.
Everything else is just a distraction.
Now Thales, did you not see the title of this article. This is clickbait for a shitstorm of idiots with bad ideas and worse arguments. There is no place for this kind of reasoned and sensible comment here.
Oh, my bad. Sorry. I’ll go back to Gandhi quotes.
Ha, that’s funny because I’m pretty libertarian minded and I think that would be one of the most effective uses of taxpayer money ever. The cost of one year of public school here is almost $10,000: the cost to benefit ratio is off the charts.
What the author is getting at, and he has a point, is that things like abortion contribute to promiscuity of women, which makes them ill-suited for pair bonding. While that may be a good thing for a life of endless hookups, an entire society cannot operate that way, and in that respect abortion has made women less responsible, and as a whole greatly lowered the quality of potential mates and given us the shitty feminists we have to deal with today.
BUT this is because abortion allows women to enjoy guilt-free anonymous sex with strangers with no repurcussions. Removing abortion would do little to change that. One would have to also remove the pill, and most forms of birth control. Because I rarely see anyone call for such a drastic plan, I conclude that the desires to prevent abortion are hypocritical, and must remain firmly in the pro-abortion camp. If you want to talk about outlawing the pill, I’ll take you seriously. Until then, it is disengenuous to claim one is anti-abortion because it ruins our women.
This is actually a really good argument. From a rational, economic point of view, we should be making abortion free and easy for the lowest economic tiers of society. (I’ll leave aside the macro-implications of aborting millions of the children of American citizens while allowing in waves of immigrants from other countries, for now.)
But the moral implications, both personally and on our society as a whole, cannot be ignored.
Reducing the essence of human life and whether it should be allowed to exist or not to an economic call seems to me to be an abomination.
Nah, the axe doesn’t have to fall, simply hang there. The mere risk would be enough to let the sluts keep slutting and the fence sitters to give pause. Just to cut the extreme tops and bottoms off of it would be enough to have some semblance of a natural order. My opinion anyways.
Especially when the worst of the worst could be dealt with by simply not making an unwanted pregnancy a video able career option.
But that was the goal of the founder of Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger. Elimination of the undesirables — lower economic class members- from society
Although to be fair, she stressed sterilization and birth control vice abortion, infanticide.
Working in some respects, a lot fewer Downs syndrome children around nowadays than back when I went to high school. Some schools don’t even have a ‘short bus’ anymore…
REEEEEEEEE
There’s nothing more perverse than a mother killing her own children. Women have become monsters.
Andrew Golis is high status??
Probably meant high status relative to the other dregs she was sleeping with. Or more likely she saw the wall approaching fast and latched onto the highest status beta orbiter that was still orbiting.
What part of “killing babies is bad” do pro-choicers not understand? I understand it must suck in cases of rape to be carrying a baby you don’t want from a man you never wanted and who hurt you, but that’s no excuse for taking an innocent life. The abortion epidemic is also why there are so few adoptable infants (especially white ones) that prospective adoptive parents end up with imported kids from Russia or China or some such.
I appreciate your opinion, but unfortunately, I need to give you the same speech I have given to other women who post on this site:
There is a reason there are “men’s only” clubs. 70 years ago, there were all sorts of venues for guys to hang out with other guys. Work, fraternities, sports, bowling leagues, et cetera. At times, there is the occasional woman that comes in. In small numbers, it is not bad. The occasional tom boy who wants to hang, or eye candy is fine. But, what happens is as the number of women are in these groups, the narrative begins to change. Guys suddenly have to watch what they say, other guys will start white knighting. Like in football, what has been considered a manly sport has been replace over hand wringing about head injuries, end zone celebrations, and Lady Gaga on the half-time show. Over the years, this infiltration, then distortion has happened nearly everywhere. We as men do not need or want a woman’s input everywhere we go. Please leave us alone.
If you were a feminist making snarky comments, I would give you the “Tits or GTFO” routine, but you are better than that.
How do you know ‘Fluffy’ is a girl
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I know what you mean, that is actually exactly why I’m here, because I don’t think I would get such an honest look into how men really think anywhere else. Perhaps this is not the best place for me, but just like you said any site that openly accepts input from both sexes is probably not going to stay very true for very long. In exchange I do offer my own honest opinions, whether they are likely to be popular or not with red pillers or blue pillers or green pillers or whoever.
I’ve mentioned before that having a congenital physical disability I consider myself mostly a spectator in the game of love and in life in general in a lot of ways. So especially because of this I see no need to change or hide what I think to impress anyone and I wouldn’t want anyone doing that for me either, especially here where the lack of sugar coating is so refreshing. I promise if y’all will let me be your tag along tomboy I won’t bring any of my girlfriends here (unless they’re hot, lol). But if that’s out of the question, is there any site you can recommend with similar level of honesty that would allow my input?
Try this: create another account with a name that doesn’t suggest you are a female. Read and post relevant shit here without expressly identifying yourself as female. If you can do that, you will beat 99% of the women who come here and shit everywhere because none of them can go 4 posts without mentioning they are female and indulging their hamstering feminine imperative.
If you eventually get outed as female (or a fag) without expressly identifying yourself as such, then you lose, and you have to go. If you never get outed, you’ve proven yourself to be a terrible, shitty female, but you can stay.
Like the uncertainty principle, any amount of input you or other women change the dynamics, whether here, at work, or around a campfire. I don’t see anything wrong with lurking. Plenty of women lurk here. There are sites like rooshvforum.com akingscastle.com therationalmale.com artofmanliness.com or thefamilyalpha.com which have decent articles, but slow comments boards. There are other comments boards that are as busy as this, but I am unaware of any with 95%+ male/female ratio.
Wouldn’t work. Boys have penises, girls have vaginas. She would slip up and say dumb things. How long did it take Pabst, Kersey, or that guy who was into Asian pretty boys (forget the name) to be called out after trying that? And they were (supposedly) men.
I agree. But never say never.
She might be “awkward female commenter” already.
Was that the tardshark that was the “girl reporter” or whatever?
Something like that. The thing is, for everything there is a season. One of those seasons is getting away from women. I love to go home to see my wife, but I don’t want women around 24/7.
Fair enough, thank you for being respectful about it.
A woman seeing past herself, illogical.
Right to life huh? but only for white american babies.
Any woman who has an abortion is permanently damaged goods. If you LTR one, you will regret it.
Isn’t that one third of American women?
Yes, the bottom one-third.
Abortions plus tattoos meet in a hilarious confluence
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The market is good for young women who are a little baby-crazy. I have numerous acquaintances in my age-range who married girls their age who want nothing more than to be stay at home mothers. 4 kids and counting, for the most part.
They are definitely out there. Problem is, the wannabe stay at home mothers are mixed in with fake spinsters or closet feminists. How to separate the wheat from the chaff is a good topic for discussion.
We call them “dependas” in the military.
Find one that was raised poor as fuck. The poorer, the better.
I went all out and changed my life to find the “good girl”. A good friend of mine lucked out and found one, in a bar of all places. They have been happily married for 15 years. So it is possible without doing what I did. Risky, but possible.
Until you get to trailer trash territory. Poor, but both parents there.
I’d be careful there…..
That’s not necessarily a guarantee. The poor girl may develop a strong and intense “I never want to be poor, I will become the most greedy, miserly person in the world to see that it doesn’t happen” and then focus on that to the exclusion of basically everything else. I’ve seen this first hand.
Although generally you have a better chance on that route than others most of the time.
True, good point. But I’ve seen multiple guys fail to give their wives the lifestyle they were used to from their fathers, and its utterly emasculating. Like the women live great lives in nice houses, but they don’t achieve the upper wealth or social status of their parents, and the hypergamy parasite just gnaws and gnaws until everything is ruined.
Oh hell no, that can backfire. The worst kind are the ones from poor families just looking for a ticket out of town. They latch on to a young enlisted, pop out a bunch of kids and then get fat and divorce him while he’s deployed. Horror stories, man.
Only girl to ever cheat on me lived in a dirt hut. I’m being serious! haha
But in general, yes, it’s good advice, hence why I was ever in that dirt hut. But AWALT.
‘dependapotamus’- the ones who just want to lay around.
Or worse…
Good to hear.
Of course. She like bathing in “male tears. 😉
On a somewhat related note, some woman asked for “mental health leave” because she was stressed and her CEO approved of it. Anyone else aware of this? I ran into this article on Facebook and not surprisingly, her supporters are women and the token male white knight. And most look like the women that have the most propensity for abortion. Anxiety maybe?
https://www.attn.com/stories/18200/how-email-helping-break-mental-health-stigma?utm_source=22words&utm_medium=fbpost&utm_campaign=influencer
The problem is not only with women who actually have abortions. When women have it in their minds and hearts that abortion is their moral “right,” their soul gets perverted, even if they don’t actually have any abortions because they “personally” find it a bit too much. This is why it seems to so many of us that women are just not worthy human beings any more. It seems that way because they aren’t.
Yeah, I think it gives them a god complex.
They are given absolute life and death authority as judge, jury and executioner.
Men have no analogous authority.
Even a judge sentencing someone to death has to adhere to strict legal requirements including a jury trial and possible review by a higher court.
I’m of two minds re: abortion. I fully agree that the best women are the ones from those countries named in the article which restrict abortion
I also think the US would be a far worse place demographically without abortion. Go visit your local abortion wing of the hospital and look at the women in line there. Day in and day out you will see a stream of underclass, poor, minorities. If you took the lower 10% of America and ask “do we want more or less of these? ” that’s what you’ll see waiting to get an abortion.
It’s easy to say “take away the abortion and they will behave better” but these are not the most rational creatures out there. The kids they have are going on welfare, they are getting SNAP payments for food, and they are all living in free housing thanks to Section 8.
The bottom line is I disagree with the conclusion that abortion was the CAUSE and not the SYMPTOM of this problem. Take away abortion, and I think America would have its own new, different set of problems. And the white Europeans that built this country would ALREADY be in the minority, instead of having to wait one more generation for that to happen (white babies born today are already in the minority).
Abortion may take the blame for some of todays problems, but it gives and it takes, and at the end of the day I think it’s difficult to score whether it’s a net gain or loss. There are plenty of other low hanging fruit we can all agree to eliminate first and see what happens: No fault divorce would be a great one.
Did abortion cause degeneracy or is it simply reflecting it? My personal belief is that I’m very glad it’s legal and available (and wish it was taxpayer subsidized) but would never ever choose that option for myself. I suppose the problem though, is entrusting that decision to others. While I’m fully able to make it, giving that same power to strong, empowered independent women is a recipe for disaster. Perhaps make abortion only granted in cases of the girl’s father, boyfriend, or court order?
There is no feasible way to end abortion unless you also plan to end the welfare state. If you only ended one, you would get a whole lot more of the other, and either is intolerable, but personally, I would prefer that these people weed themselves out of the gene pool. So long as I am not paying for it, fuck them.
While I am 100% in agreement with your statement, I also think there is some fundamental failure of leadership that has caused us to feel that making statements about what, in high-trust homogeneous communities, are your close neighbors and extended family, such as: “So long as I am not paying for it, fuck you.” is a normal healthy feeling to have about others.
I assure you that is NOT the attitude that pilgrim families had after arriving on the Mayflower, or Viking tribes of old.
Perhaps it’s just proof that multiculturalism does not work.
Yeah, I agree.
‘….stream of underclass, poor, minorities….” that we’re better off without…
Channeling Margaret Sanger there. Although she generally opposed abortion as infanticide, preferring sterilization and birth control for the lower classes.
I’ll compromise. If my taxes have to pay for abortion, then I would mandate that any female who has an abortion on my dime also has to be permanently sterilized.
Excellent article, and it solidifies how women have no set morality – their “moral belief system” is a never-ending pool of shifting sand that largely depends on the views of the most current guy she is fucking. I can tell you, as a man who had his first child aborted/murdered against his will by an evil twat at 17 weeks along and who had zero say in the matter, that allowing women any choice in the single most important human occurrence of creating and sustaining new life is utterly foolish and wrong. Repeal Roe vs. Wade- POTUS Trump, criminalize PP and their utterly revolting ilk, and save what’s left of Western Civilization for future men.
Strange how we’re not given an option upon discovery of pregnancy.
Do you, the father, wish to support this life from here forward or not? Yes or no. Binding choice. My contribution from my body, my choice.
But they won’t have it that way at all.
I am all for financial abortion. You sign away any possible rights you might have to anything even representing fatherhood. Come next to that kid and you are a pervert stalker not a sympathetic father….and you don’t owe a fucking dime.
This is a sane and logical position. It addresses the whole “choice” argument 100% instead of “choice only for women, fuck men though, she’s in charge totally even though both made the kid”.
I’m down with that. Both parents getting choices.
It would clean up some sluttery as well. If Tyrone can legally dispense with financial and legal obligations to the about to be born kids, she’s probably not going to be putting out to Tyrone very much compared to when he’s on the hook financially no matter what.
If it is going to clean up sluttery I am sorry but I have to be against it. I like sluttery. It’s the ginchiest.
It would only make a real difference to women without means who are total gutter trash ghetto types. I’m assuming that you don’t date that particular breed.
Have no fear, Hipponax, there will always be sluts. From the beginning of time, there have been sluts, and until the end of time, there will always be sluts. Sluts are ubiquitous. Sluts are indefatigable. Sluts are eternal.
Long live sluts.
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Terrible idea. And we are trying to take the moral high ground on abortion? Don’t stick your dick in it if you aren’t ready to accept the consequences for life.
I don’t think anyone has ever accused Hipponax of taking “the moral high ground” when it comes to sticking his dick in things.
nah, sticking dick in things feeellls good. There is birth control, morning after (one of my favs) and abortion if all else fails. Consequence for life ends at an uber and paying for an abortion max.
Only if she can’t then turn to the state as ‘big daddy government’ to step in and pay her. Which is the problem now — she can. She can get with the most irresponsible men in the world with ‘big daddy’ as a back-stop.
But then the burden shifts to the taxpayer– us — anyway.
Hence the state’s interest in trying to tag some guy for child support.
So take away the social safety net.
All of these “solutions” to problems caused by government always seem to be reasons to add more government, don’t they? Strange how that works isn’t it?
I tend to agree with you– the safety net, as broad and as deep as it has gotten incentivizes irresponsible behavior. Just as the bail-outs for corporations do.
The reduction in welfare under Clinton led to a lot of folks bettering their lives.
For a woman to have consensual sex without protection is stupid in this day of readily available contraception. There is no excuse for it.
So any woman who does this is an idiot.
End of story.
Ya know, it takes two to have sex. What are men doing going around rawdogging a bunch of sluts?
For sex to happen, she has to consent. He either gets it or he doesn’t, but she has the ultimate say. That’s the difference. If she says no, and he’s not a rapist, nothing happens. She controls that valve, so the burden of responsibility is on her.
That said, men do contribute as well. As such, they should have the right to opt out of child support the moment the pregnancy is discovered, just like a woman can abort the child if she wants. Equality, I likes it.
For sex to happen both have to consent. Believe it or not, but sometimes women initiate sex. Shocking, I know.
Opting out is sinking to the same level and flies in the face of all the moral grandstanding happening in these comments.
But she ultimately has the final say. There’s no getting around that (except rape). That’s my point.
If she’s allowed to “opt out” and kill BOTH of their baby without his input, then he should have the opportunity to opt out regardless of her decision to keep the child. Fair is fair. My body, my choice after all.
You have a point, but you have to realize that you are moral grandstanding just as much as anyone else.
No, she does not have the ultimate say. The dude can simply say, nope, not sticking mah dick in it.
The risk of knocking up a broad is part of the act. You have to accept that risk and the consequences. Life is not fair, snowflake.
I’m not grandstanding. I want a free market of fast and easy abortions. Kill ’em all for all I care.
Dude, she has the ultimate say on if sex happens. There is no getting around this.
She gets to decide to kill the kid, fine. I get to decide (at the beginning) if I want the next 18 years of my income given to her. Equality before the law.
Pull “snowflake” on me again, my friend, and this conversation is terminated.
No, you are moralizing on the other end. You think its pragmatism but when you boil it down, its just moralizing in a different way.
Not that there’s anything wrong with that, and not that it defeats your argument.
Life is so precious that abortion is terrible, but you then say its okay to not support your own fucking DNA? Get out of here with that.
I’ll respect your pronouns, zir.
I like this concept, she has choice of whether or not to abort, but he has the choice whether or not to support. If he wants to not support, he is cut off from the kid. Sounds harsh on the outside, but this shoulders the responsibility for whoring more on her shoulders, it stops the women from sleeping around to get child support. She will think twice before sleeping around with some random guy. Her body her choice, his body, his choice.
I’m saying, I’m not shilling for the feminists. If she has the right to make her own reproductive decisions based on convenience and economic considerations, then so does the husband. Equality before the law. I’m touting the anti-feminist view on this, I’m saying men should have the same rights as women.
In the case of completely unprotected sex yes, but it’s far more common for a condom to break/defective, “forgot” a pill or whatever. The pill has probably caused way more “accidental” pregnancies than raw dogging.
Quite a few women are careless when it comes to drug interactions. They get sick, and forget the medication they’re being given for the illness can make the pill ineffective.
OR, she does it intentionally to spring a trap, and then heads to the clinic when someone passes the shit test. Either way, not something to commend her for.
I am against abortion. But once talking to a friend from high school made me ask a serious question “if the child were to be born with very serious congenital anomalies, would you still disagree?”. What do you think?
What if your unborn kid tested positive for sociopathy? What would you do?
start right at that moment maneuvering him into an Ivy League Business School. Call that my retirement plan.
I dunno, youre own kid is gonna start(and never stop) manipulating you to suit what he wants…you can see thru it all, and you cant change it…you really want that?
In that case I’ll abort him at 18. Save on tuition costs.
Nothing. Maybe try to mitigate its effects, if I can.
Welcome a politician to the fam.
So a woman gets pregnant, there is adoption. It is still a viable option. Here is a link to a website where couples advertise themselves, and the mother can choose who the baby goes to.
https://adoption.com/lds/families
Buh buh buh risks to mah health!
A claim that depends on us believing that it is still the year 1750 and that 3 in 10 women die from complications due to childbirth and child bearing. Turns out that normally it’s around 700 women a year across the entire U.S. Compare that to the number of pregnant women in that same period that that’s not even a statistical blip on the radar. A woman has more of a chance of being hit by a car when walking outside, every single day, than dying from complications from pregnancy, yet I don’t see any anti-life types eschewing leaving one’s home.
My wife knew this girl who married and got pregnant. Shortly thereafter, she came down with cancer. Because of the baby, she elected to forgo the chemotherapy and radiation treatment until after she delivered. Too late, the cancer killed her a short time later. However, the baby survived. Her husband eventually remarried.
The reason I tell that story, is to show how strong a woman’s instinct to have children is. A woman who elects to have an abortion out of convenience is going against her very nature.
Yes, and a woman who denies this instinct and kills her baby because “but stretch marks” is fucked up beyond redemption.
Maybe this is the answer to the question I posed above – if she had the abortion, maybe she could have gotten the cancer treatment and saved her life. But I suspect this wasn’t something that was discovered in month 9 when you could have just rolled her right to the OR, cut the kid out, then wheeled her over to the chemo lab. I don’t see how we ever get to a point where viable kids need to die for the mother’s health. It just doesn’t make sense to me.
It was her body, her choice. Not sure if she would have lived had they gone straight to chemo and killed the baby. Just something to throw out.
Unless it was one of those rare fast spreading cancers, the tumour in her body was late stage 3 at best, maybe stage 4 which is terminal. I believe she made the right choice.
Serious question – how would abortion help with any of these women who died? I mean, aren’t we talking about women who die in delivery? It seems like whatever is going on medically has happened at that point and it isn’t clear to me how killing an otherwise healthy child that just needs to come out makes the situation better. For example, during my wife’s first pregnancy, she had a rough delivery and they had to do a C-section, and she hemorrhaged and almost bled out. How killing my kid would have made that better or changed that outcome is beyond me. I hear all this “abortion for the mother’s health stuff,” and I’m willing to listen to it, but I never actually hear any scenarios where I am convinced that killing the kid would help save the mother, but maybe I’m missing something.
Good points all.
A girl I lived with many years ago, when I was in my early 20s, got pregnant while we were shacking up. Being a sap at the time, I paid for the abortion. Found out later the kid wasn’t mine. That was my very first red-pill moment. Thank god it happened. I went on a binge after that, treated every woman I wanted as my personal piece of meat, and had a harem within about six months. From that point on, I either had a harem, or I had my entire lifestyle financed by a slut in return for exclusive sex. I’m not sure what the point is here, but abortion played a role in waking me up and keeping me from being a blue-pill, white-knight, beta boy. So there’s a plus side to everything…
How did you find out the kid wasn’t yours?
She told me after the abortion that the fetus was seven weeks old (the doctor told her this). Went to the wall calendar in our kitchen, and counted back seven weeks. She was smack-dab in the middle of a two-week vacation, in another state, seeing her sister, at that time.
You know she told you that for a reason. She knew when 7 weeks was, and she knew what she was communicating to you. You can never be sure that was a true fact or just a way to fuck with you.
Pregnancy duration is counted from date of last menses (period), however ovulation typically occurs from day 12 through 16 after last menses. You dodged a bullet in any case.
She was a wild child. I was 23 and she was 18. I caught her in bed with a mutual friend a couple months later. (After I kicked her out and she begged me to come back to her.) Went over for a late-night dinner, walked into her new rental house, caught her in bed with the guy.
I got even with her. Almost drove her into an insane asylum by the time I was done. Long story there (no, I didn’t just let her get away with it). She triggered me and I went full-on mercenary. In a way, she did me a favor, because she woke me up.
She settled the fuck down after I got even with her, got married, and stayed married for a couple of decades. But a slut is a slut, and her husband eventually divorced her, and she got a big house, a ton of money, etc. Then she dropped dead of a brain aneurysm on the floor of that big old house, right in the living room, about two years ago.
Try as I might, I couldn’t dredge up any sympathy for her. (She was a phenomenal, five-star fuck though – I’ll give her points for that.)
The ‘Investigation Discovery’ channel had a show about a woman (philipina) who would sleep around with military members (Pilipino-americans), claim she was pregnant to get them to give her the money for an abortion or she’d go to their command and smear them.
Eventually one of the guys she was trying to extort killed her.
“You know when a dog bites you…you can either chain him up, or put him down.” – from the movie “Cold in July” (2012)
Thing that did her in– she stole the guy’s dress uniform. She was supposed to return it when he paid up, she showed up without the uniform. That was the final straw…
I am not sure if this is true or not but tagthesponsors (who I learned about through this site and still follow) pointed out that there are some of these rich arabs who will pay a Miami bottle rat or Instagram whore to get pregnant for a few months until they are showing, do some preggo gang bangs and weird shit with camels and dogs and then abort.
Western women will jump on that like a middle school teacher jumping on one of her students.
Look, some of these guys have so much money that it has become an abstraction to them…not actually a real or finite resource. If you find some Miami bottle rat and offer her 500k to do this plus bonuses and tips while she is getting gangbanged and huge shopping sprees…maybe not all of them will jump on it, but some will 100%
Women will do anything, even if money isn’t involved. Toss in a huge fee, and it’s just gravy for them. “I was going to get fucked up the ass by a donkey anyway…and this guy wants to pay me $75,000 to do it? Bwahahaha.” Etc.
The donkey thing is so, so, terrifyingly, mind numbing real….I’ve been to Mexico…I’ve seen first hand. God save us all.
I’ve seen the donkey thing too…also in Mexico…woah
Never had the pleasure of that one. I’ll take your word for it. I think many a modern woman’s mindset these days, revolves around the notion of, “The more twisted it is, the bigger the sexual merit badge is.” Bragging rights. While they sit around and compare fuck notes with their empowered girlfriends…
all that AND the Shits!
what a vacation!
Bob it was truly a huge and horror story like surprise. Sitting in the strip club with my other military buddies, and suddenly they announce (In Spanish so I’m the only one who can understand it) some chicks name with “y su burro” and I immediately do an ears up “What the fuck”. Out comes the donkey, out comes the girl, out comes the donkey circumference sized leather. Ho….leeee….fucktarts.
I am appalled and simultaneously intrigued…I wonder if her future kids had a dash of donkey DNA…you know, in school, their friends called them “horse face”. I make light here, but that is some sick shit. Women will do any goddamned thing when it comes to sex. Sex to a woman is like – nothing. A chance to get off, whomever their partner might be. I wish more guys would wrap their minds around this one – it will save them a lot of heartache.
Next on the Lifetime Channel – “El Buro, El Madre :the Sarah Jessica Parker Story”
Ha! I refer to her as Sarah Jessica Barker (woof! woof!), although she does have that horse face…
Many moons ago, my cousin tricked me into watching a video of some sick broad getting banged by a horse.
I thought it was fake at first.
I only watched a couple minutes and was truly a bit shaken up.
Dafuq did I just see. A human actually did that?
You can never, ever unsee that shit either. It burns into your soul and speaks to you of the true depravity possible in human nature.
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Yes, it appears her kid did get a dash of donkey DNA.
That makes total sense…
Actually, I think it was Webb Hubbell that fucked the donkey.
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Imagine trying to get it up to impregnate Hillary Clinton. On second thought, don’t. It’s just too gross.
I’d bang Chelsea just make her scream “I did not have sexual relations with that woman” over and over again while I fucked her.
EDIT: Then I’d put it in her ass and make her scream “I feel you pain!” over and over.
My brother told me the same story from when he was in the Army. She climbs into some harness under the donkey and goes at it. Sick world.
Fuck that. I’d make her call her mom while she was getting banged and tell her what she was doing. I’d also make her scream “Make America Great Again!”
My junior high didn’t have any hot teachers.
You poor man…seriously.
I believe it. Sadly.
I wish I could find a rich arab that would pay me to go play Call of Duty with him and eat pizza, and make fun of all his stupid rent-a-whores with him.
Cousin Akbar was never quite right but we don’t shame anyone for their fetishes here.
probably a TRAP anyway……
THANK YOU
I’m just saying. There has to be like a nerdy super-rich arab dude that just wants to hang out and not do a bunch of gay shit. We could race his Lamborghinis and shoot at people like real-life GTA. We could rent homeless people and set them on fire like on YouTube. We could buy Hayden Christensen and torture him to death for ruining Darth Vader. I mean, I could come up with some fun shit for us to do without involving weird sex, camels and STDs.
You want to do more than just make fun of the whores.
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“Whores” autocorrects to “whites”
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Sad panda.
Whores I can get easy and free here in America.
As the social consequences of abortion show, a healthy patriarchal society doesn’t necessarily have to conscript women into doing the right thing, like in Margaret Atwood’s ridiculous novel The Handmaid’s Tale that the degenerate media have already turned into two TV adaptations.
Instead we just have to stop making escape routes so that women can shirk their responsibility. When women knew they couldn’t get legal abortions, the knowledge led to their quicker emotional maturation; they learned to control their sexuality for the purposes of early marriage and family formation, instead of continuing to act like teenage girls on prom night well into their 30’s.
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UGH! people still posting these quotes and pictures of Gandhi!
Gandhi looks exactly like Abraham Lincoln without the beard.
“looks like” pishaw
I’m not going to argue the merits or demerits of abortion. And just to clarify some other issues, I want to say: I believe the earth has too many people. Abortion is not an acceptable method of birth control. If you took all the people on earth and moved them to the United States, we would still have HALF the population density that England has today!
What I am getting at is that the Pro Choice movement has nearly succeeded in entirely removing God and Man from having any say-so regarding reproduction. They are setting themselves up as goddesses again, granting themselves the power over life and death. They want to control the kids, they want to control the money, and they want to control the men. I’m sorry, but it’s time to draw a line in the sand. This can’t go on.
Women who take matters of who lives and who dies into their own hands are co-opting God. This is not their decision alone to make. They can decide not to have sex; that is their boundary. And, of course, in the few actual cases of rape where this becomes an issue, where no man comes forward to assume the responsibility of raising the child, then the choice to abort belongs to the woman alone.
The fact is, when men and women are equal, women are more equal than men because they control reproduction. Ultimately, the main thing that gives a man meaning and purpose in his sorry life, the thing that gets him up in the morning and off to work at some stink-ass job, is the time he spends being enriched by his kids. Kids do that for men. They make us happy to be alive. Where does this society get off ripping that away from us and still expecting us to perform?
Great post, that is a good way to frame it and very true.
Why are you not condemning the men who knock up these sluts?
Because men simply follow their natural instincts whilst women, as the reproductive unit of the species, go against theirs.
Male homo sapiens has the longest, thickest erect penis of the 192 species of apes. It is no secret that men want sex all the time and that women, unlike other mammals, are not prone to service them for only two weeks in spring, but indeed are sexually available all year round, even when they’re pregnant.
I don’t know why, but the bass line in the refrain, from the song “You’re Gonna Get What’s Coming”, started running through my head after I read this article (a psychiatrist would have a field day with that admission):
We live in the motherfucking 21st century.
Women have the pill, iuds, patches, shots, condoms, morning after pill that any girl can buy, etc etc etc…
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Any woman who has an unplanned pregnancy is an idiot who doesnt have control of their life.
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There is no excuse for it to get to the point where abortion is even an option..
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I’m all for men being able to have a legal abortion.
“My body, my choice”! Ok! My jizz, my money!
That would prevent many broads ffrom trying to trap a man.
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As others have pointed out, at face value, its cheaper to abort than pay for a life of welfare, section 8, EBT, etc.
But, if abortion were illegal, society would change so we would see way less cases like that.
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Either way, the public should not have to pay for it.
Govt should step aside and let some bs charity take over that area.
“Women have the pill, iuds, patches, shots, condoms, morning after pill that any girl can buy, etc etc etc…”
You forgot the old “fall down the stairs”.
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Stairs weren’t handy the day my friends husband pushed her out of a moving jeep, pregnant with his twins…
You’ve made some good posts before but I heard a faraway socialist worker tell that same meme. Her friend’s so and so and the vehicle make was the same. It was a ‘jeep’. The feminist diaspora must be really tight worldwide to know the same so and so personally with the same ‘jeep’ although the tale evolves slightly with each telling. Then there are ‘his twins’ added. Small world huh? It’s a pretty popular meme to lay, the friend being pushed out of the jeep by the awful man end of story. More laws against that awful man driver! There’s always more to a story and another side. We want video of this meme interaction within the famous original ‘jeep’. Is this the one?
If so, the story has greatly evolved from the original version. The story must be legendary in women’s study classes by now.
I have no idea what you’re talking about.
Perhaps it’s just easier to push someone out of a vehicle without doors?
upvoted bc I have never seen one of your posts longer than a single sentence
Well, you know, brevity is the something something.
TL;DR
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These rabid, insane pro-abortion feminazis behave as if someone was forcing them to have children. Majority of them look like Jabba The Hutt’s evil spawns and no sane man would want his child to have their genetics.
The problem is that these loud-mouthed creatures encourage many otherwise normal girls to give up on having families. They insist that their degenerate choices be inflicted on the rest of women. Sick weirdos.
Somebody is still fucking the Jabbas or they wouldn’t be getting abortions.
It’s not my fault. She had a gun and 17 blue pills.
There were a lot of drawbacks prior to Roe v. Wade too (“back alley” abortions, etc.). Sometimes it seems like life presents you with nothing but shitty choices. Oh well, if we need to pick a shitty choice, we might as well pick one that does not destroy western civilization.
I married one of those Cherry Blossoms. Still married 40 years later.
Roe v. Wade needs to go down. Abortion is not a federal issue.
As to whether abortion is murder or not, I look at it this way: I find the notion that an IUD or morning-after pill are murder, and the notion that a partial birth abortion is not murder, equally implausible.
Irrespective of the controversy, not much would change if abortion was restricted. The abortion
rate and the birth rate are both at historical lows. Abortions are down but births are not up.
In the “good old days”, not getting married and starting a family was considered odd. That alone would subject both sexes to social stigma. This is the core of it all.
Social stigma is important and needs to be re instituted. When someone tells you different say “How dare you for shame-shaming me!”
Au contraire, the crime went down after abortion became legal. Shifty men have always been a problem hence children of single mothers was always a thing.
Abortion, in the vast majority of cases, is simply being used as birth control. Most abortions occur because of laziness, stupidity and irresponsibility on the part of women. Abortion should only be permitted in the rarest of circumstances – when a woman is raped, or if the pregnancy is endangering her life.
In an era where dozens of highly effective forms of birth control are readily available abortion is unnecessary in almost all cases.
Feminists are big on rights, but of course, being the infantilized vipers they are – not at all on responsibilities. The simple fact is – life begins in her body, not his. Because of this women have one huge responsibility – be circumspect when, and with whom you choose to create that life.
I, for one hope Roe v. Wade is overturned. Eight years of Mr. Trump is what America so desperately needs.
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Ah the irony, the original suffragette leaders cited the evils of abortion and condemned it. They saw it as something being forced on women by men. They didn’t use the modern phrase, it came down to-
Abortion turns women into sex objects, play things for men.
Modern feminists enthusiastically support abortion, yet decry women being sex objects, but in reality the suffragettes had it correct. Nothing is as effective in reducing a woman to being simply a sex object than the concept of a willingness to kill her progeny for convenience.
Believe me, you may not really want to ban abortions in the US. Once it’s banned, you will find out there are so may newborn black and brown babies every year. Just look at Brazil and you will realize it will be a fast track to Third World.
Wow. This article just screams “beta”; “waah, women won’t have nice guys baybeez anymore!” Sheesh. Fact is, the abortion rate in the USA was well into the high 6-figures 60 years ago–even though illegal everywhere. And white women have low rates of abortion. Hispanics and especially blacks have very high rates. How much of a demographic shift do you want? Do you want to be up to your eyeballs in car thieves, gangbangers, welfare moms and mongoloids? And don’t forget the drop in crime over the last 25 years. Maybe no more lead paint was a factor but it wasn’t the only one.
The connection made in the article is WRONG.
Spain for example is a country that banned abortions until 2010, and even now they are difficult to obtain, BUT NO, you can’t find a decent woman in Spain, because socialism+feminism since Franco’s death.
Most of women will divorce you and if not imprison you on false accusations of violence, will just get all your assets and the kids.
Spain now has feminist mayors in the major cities : Madrid and Barcelona.
And plenty of broads that still live with their parents well into their 30s.
The feminism bug is enforced hard in Spain like everywhere by the UN. The UN is constantly pushing programs to empower women even in the most remote corners of the Earth. They will sponsor teams to visit the most isolated jungle tribes scratching and searching for any female who hasn’t yet been ’empowered’. It used to be that only the most radical feminists would pound their fists and scream “NO man EVER has the right to control ANY woman” . . Now today that pretty much defines the exclusive mission of the UN. Could Jews be to blame? If so which jews or which clear delineation of jewish sect is advocating the proselytizing of feminism?
Many jewish women, jewish mothers especially are known for being highly neurotic and their sperg-like rantings belie their intelligence. In fact a jewish woman on a feminist rant appears down right stupid. They need silenced and capped. They were long overdue for cliterectomies long ago.
I saw a post on here a week or so ago about false rape accusations in Israel which stuck in my mind. It shows many jewish women on camera screaming like children and doing the same antics a child would do, only they are adults throwing false rape cries whenever they don’t get their way. And their Jewish men are at a loss, disheveled and powerless. OBSERVE the sperg-like demeanor of the woman in the taxi cab threatening the driver with rape accusation.
These jewish women seem to be the most entitled and spoiled of any on Earth I’ve witnessed, aside from the fat nigger and muddie housing project women who cry rape as a matter of procedure for replacing their motherfucker (sire). Feminism has bitten Israel hard, very hard. SO WHICH motherfucking jews are responsible for feminism? It’s like Jewish women are wired to succumb to the full spectrum of cultural/suicidal zombosis. Observe also the tantrums thrown by the other jewish women caught on camera. Ray Rice’s dumb nigger bitch in the elevator (she still loves him) can’t hold a match to these Jewish women going femstupid. At least Rice’s girl went through a period of fuming elsewhere and finally got prodded by feminist counsel to cry for the slickie tabloids. But these apeshit neuro crazy jewish bats act like they have a right or outburst anytime, anywhere and snap their fingers for mangina boot boys cops to appear like magic genies to grant their wish. It’s the ultimate Disney (jewish)princess complex. They’re so sure that ‘bitches rule’ and they pull the rape card over and over, cooling off in between and then striking with it again like a snake.
TO CRACK A BLOW to the feminist pandemic, we need to crack on the Jewish women first because of their red level convulsing. They are the most suceptable. Why? . . Hmm . . CLITERECTOMIES mandatory. Jewish men need to cap their goddamn crazy bitch’s clits at once. You can always (vote) heh to uncap them in a later generation. Right now there’s a pandemic emerging and YOU WILL ALL DROP DEAD if your women aren’t protected from the full blown zombo convulsion stage. Feminism will blow over but the uncliterectomized zombo prone women won’t survive. Maybe they weren’t meant to survive. I guarantee there is a very powerful patriarchal tide coming in and soon.
As regards to myself as a non jewish man, the most trouble that ever came my way was a result of me not controlling my bitch properly. The bitch brought the shit on. She made enemies FOR me. Your woman will bring enemies to your doorstep if you don’t control her properly. This is because YOU are responsible for your woman. She is YOUR responsibility man!
Considering that most women get pregnant by retards. I don’t see a problem with retard-babies being aborted. I for one am tired of dealing with idiots.
Abortion: you didn’t do your due diligence beforehand.
Never thought of this contributing to the social dating conditions. All those clothes hangers are like the rotten-apples that spoil the whole bunch. I always thought it was repulsive, but I never thought of the social fallout. It’s like a squeak or click on the train; you don’t notice it at first, but now it’s all you can hear. As if another contributing cause makes this quagmire any less of a mess. Reed, good article.
My body ,My Money ,My choice , Boy they hate it when you use their slogans against them
We need Hadrian’s wall between us and these freak women.
Author, kudos for connecting the dots for us.
Abortion is the ugliest hypergamy-enabler of them all.
It accepts killing, unilaterally disempowers men (fathers), cheapens life, and positions women as gods – ’empowered’ to make life and death decisions independent of any other person or cultural safeguards.
And i would argue, it contributes to the divorce epidemic….I mean, if it’s OK to kill your baby when it’s inconvenient, it’s much less agregious to terminate a marriage.
“Perhaps not coincidentally, less than two years after Roe v. Wade, the U.S. child support enforcement system was set up to ensure that government power would guarantee that the ‘chosen’ providers would pay up whatever the state demanded.”
Not a coincidence at all, because the same year that Roe was issued, the Court issued its opinion in Gomez v. Perez, which extended equal protection under the 14th Amendment to illegitimate children. This meant that the states could no longer restrict the collection of child support to men who fathered children ONLY within wedlock; i.e. a single stroke disposal of the so-called bastardy acts. Thus in two cases, SCOTUS legalized abortion, and gave financial incentive to bastardy.
As the Court had it “a State may not invidiously discriminate against illegitimate children by denying them substantial benefits accorded children generally. We therefore hold that once a State posits a judicially enforceable right on behalf of children to needed support from their natural fathers there is no constitutionally sufficient justification for denying such an essential right to a child simply because its natural father has not married its mother. For a State to do so is ‘illogical and unjust.’”
Gomez v. Perez, 409 U.S. 535 (1973)
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/409/535/case.html
Illogical and unjust.
So as you can see, between Nixon and Reagan racking up 49 state victories, the unelected superior legislature masquerading as common law judges, issues two edicts which effectively tear up the foundations of an ordered society. And conservatives did fuck all about it. Because equality.
I’ve been against abortion for awhile for moral reasons but now for male interest
As contraceptive methods become cheaper and its use more widespread, abortion becomes more irrelevant. I find abortion very useful to get rid of people I will certainly not like nor need. And sluttery-wise… the contraceptives already made irreversibly made women sluts, there is no other way around.
This is the first answer that resulted in my google search “list of ways to prevent pregnancy”.
Abstinence
Birth Control Sponge (Today Sponge)
Birth Control Patch
Birth Control Vaginal Ring (NuvaRing)
Birth Control Pills
Birth Control Shot (Depo-Provera)
Birth Control Implant (Implanon and Nexplanon)
Female Condom
Breastfeeding as Birth Control
Cervical Cap (FemCap)
Outercourse
Vasectomy
Diaphragm
Fertility Awareness-Based Methods (FAMs)
Pull Out Method (Withdrawal)
Morning-After Pill (Emergency Contraception)
Condom
Spermicide
Sterilization for Women (Tubal Sterilization)
IUD
They can also say “No, put on a condom.” I don’t want to chance an STD” as the man should also protect himself from STDs.
The point is all the ways to NOT get pregnant. An abortion is, unless life is at risk for the mom or result of a REAL rape, irresponsible.”
Nailed it.
And not to mention, all of these methods are either very cheap or are covered by one’s health insurance.
America is spiritually dead and is going to keep beinglike this until the weak, supplicating males stop validating and marrying soulless women like Jessica Valenti. But the system needs a reset because is not viable anymore.
Heartiste is so spot on always with these things: here you are Jessica Valenti and his beta husband. Look at this photo and you’ll understand me. https://static01.nyt.com/images/2009/10/18/fashion/vows.sub.600.jpg
I’m not very good at this type of thing.
Perceptions and subtleties.
Is it because he is leaning in and she is backing away?
Yes. That leaning and backing away. And the hands in the pockets!
I’m not sure what the point was to the marriage? Or maybe she just told him that she just aborted their kid?
“You didn’t even have to have game — just be a decent person.”
Wow, If I was born 30 years earlier, I could have been a normal person with a normal life…
“Eddie Murphy paid $60,000 a month…”
That fag bangs transvestites.
His buddy Magic wasn’t so lucky playing the same game.
UnMagic: You think that’s how he caught it, or heroin? Both?
Murphy: Freak. That tranny story’s been hushed up pretty good though.
I suspect there’s tons of HIV/AIDS amongst the Hollyweirdos and their ilk.
Yup.
My cousin worked for the NBA for years.
Magic & Isaiah both were known to be fags on the “down low”.
Romans 1:22-31
A well reasoned article but there’s a bigger picture and this reasoning shows there never was a patriarchy. If there was one then abortion would not have advanced to such an easy state medically and government would have never allowed it.
We have always, or at least for several hundred years, a society which aims to make conditions better for women by minimizing their responsibility and maximizing their freedom, even if it is false freedom at the expense of others.
The reason why ‘abortion advanced’ and other ‘progressive’ causes was that the progressives and elites infiltrated the political parties. They made sure that Manchurian candidates were elected by financing them. They took over the courts.
Great article
The other side of this is to cut off the welfare train for stupid cunts who spread their legs for a dumbass. We certainly don’t need more ghetto people of any color breeding more than they should.
We’re long past the point where at the very least some form of semi-permanent birth control should be a requirement in order to qualify for bumfare.
The other side of the coin is Feminists/SJWs are killing off their own. In the long run, this would be beneficial to society.
After the 2012 election, the pundits said the Republican party would no longer win because it was made of old white people that were dying off. What has actually happened is the low birthrate among leftists since Roe has caught up with them. We can thank Roe for Trump’s election.
I’d like to see no child support unless the couple is married at the time of birth or conception. No welfare and mandatory birth control for women that have children out of marriage.
In an ideal world, separated parents would use their own funds to support their children directly, without the need for one to send money to the other. If a parent is incapable of doing that, then said parent should be ineligible for any form of physical custody of those children.
No child support period is ideal incentive for the woman to sit down, shut up and tit feed (STFU&TF). Historically parents were incentivized to raise offspring that were resillient to flaking and sloth. Safety nets deactivate the instincts for basic survival and invite mass die offs. With excessive safety nets no one in history would have ever learned to ride a bicycle or climb a tree and the skateboard half pipe would never have been invented.
Years back, my wife once noticed a peculiar lady sitting in a minivan on her laptop parked at a Chick Fila. My wife parked next to her with the little ones in the rear eating. The lady began inquiring my wife how she’s doing and saying the kids are cute. She continued asking “How’s the home front? Does he support you?” Too many questions so my wife called me. The lady said she worked for child support and was staring in the restaurant window towards the indoor playland like she was watching someone. I told my wife to get the lic# on the van and back out turning so she conldn’t see our lic plate and wait. The lady in the minivan says “Ooh you’re going? You ok? You look like you’re freaking out. You need any help sweetie?”
So wife waits as I come in the direction of the restaurant. I’m thinking “Whoa here’s a major predator system bitch working a chick fila playland, probably casing some kids to legally steal” I want this bitch’s details. We’ll track this piece of shit. (she was middle aged and ugly). Child support is one thing but casing a playland sounds like she’s more connected to a bigger can of worms. And me doesn’t like worms. So I get there and the minivan bitch is pulling out as three sheriffs are pulling in for lunch. Bitch waves to one of them in passing. I got her picture driving and decided not to follow. Always upload stream when you happen upon any one of these anti family fembuggers, whether they’re at work or freelancing. They’re a mob. They need shut down. And they’re almost all exclusively local Democratic party machine favorites working sweetheart jobs, even the Indian imports. In a trial, impropriety on their part can be picked to the bone with live feed of what they do.
But if they ever fuck with YOU or YOUR clan, then it’s no fear no rules. Know your enemy and know where they live. But do as you’re told with blinders on and they will prey on you.
Your body your choice indeed, woman. My choice to not have to pay for the consequences of your lack of judgement either.
A woman who sees a positive outcome in murdering her child kinda disqualifies herself against being a good mother, right? Would any guy who wants progeny want someone like that raising his kids? What will happen when they’re alone and the child acts up?
Not to mention, as most abortions are done strictly because another form of birth control failed or wasn’t used in the first place, it shows irresponsibility, as there are plenty of very effective ways to prevent unplanned pregnancies.
…” another form of birth control failed.” Yeah, it was my fault for not having the magical powers to regulate my hormones EVEN WHILE taking the pill at the exact same time every day even when I was constantly changing from day to night shift and back at my job. 🙄
Wow. Your husband really needs to pick up the slack.
I’m sorry what?
“The whole purpose of purchasing a costly male vasectomy is the ability to present a paper in front of a judge that effectively says, ‘He couldn’t be the father.’”
This has been supplemented or supplanted by the DNA analysis certified by an independent lab. If a fellow doesn’t want his sperm ducts mutilated and is certain that he didn’t impregnate the irresponsible slut, this is court-tested and universally accepted.
No Red-Pill guy with game can be anti-abortion.
The Wikipedia article is very long – can someone in a few sentences summarise this Roe vs. Wade precedent it sounds like some kind of common knowledge in America, and I’ve never heard of it..
I am not a fan of abortion but I will say (again )it has become a complicated issue. Sadly the effects of abortion at it’s high was the decrease in crime. If abortion was outlawed this country would be a third world country in no time (due to demographic change). Go to a abortion clinic and look at the demographics there. While abortion has hurt indo European numbers white women now are less incline to get one. Also bear in mind it has gotten to a point that the number of women that are getting abortions are already mothers, http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2011/10/most_surprising_abortion_statistic_the_majority_of_women_who_ter.html
Abortion is really a double edged sword imo. Because on one hand there is a baby who has the intellect of someone like Beethoven or Mozart who is born. So you have to think; What if Beethoven, Michelangelo, or Mozart were aborted?
But another way to look at it is that the baby will grow up to be a violent crazy individual or even a terrorist.
So now think: What if Elliot Rodger was aborted? What if Bin Laden was aborted?
Well you won’t know unless you let them live. I suspect it’s a lot more Beethovens, and as far I’ve read, Muslims are having big families.
Gonna have to disagree on this since I know many women who ended up with complete degenerate trash.
All the women I know who killed their babies young are crazy weirdos now. Not sure if this is still the case now because a woman killing her baby is trendy and cool now, Personally if a person can murder a baby because it’s inconvenient they are not worth getting close too… Especially now that killing old people because they are too hard to take care of is becoming a thing. Imagine being married to one of these harpies and getting old or incapacitated!!!!
I know of one… aborted at least two babies without the guy that she was living with knowing about it! She went on to have kids with another guy, and when she’d get mad, she would scream at them, “I should have also aborted you!” Those kids as you can imagine are damaged goods…
Young women are being raised with maximized freedom of action with minimized responsibility and accountability. For young men it is just the reverse: minimized freedom of action with maximized responsibility and accountability.
This is one of the BEST posts on ROK I have ever read!
To the feminists: Your body, your choice when its my hard earned money, my choice.
The height of feminist hypocrisy. They want liberty to do as they please. Yet male taxpayers must pay for their abortions or if they don’t abort, pay for their pregnancy, and welfare for the child. If you want government run and funded healthcare, then government will tell you when you can have an abortion.
so much of this article is simply NOT applicable to many women & just is not accurate. i have never even heard of that horrible fat porkchop bitch up there with that disgusting tee shirt, & it’s because of assholes like HER that there is a huge population of awesome women like myself, your “middle America” white woman, who never gets to find the “good Middle America guy”, because so many good normal men fall for these stupid whores who do nothing but use them up & spit them out. then their hearts are broken “forever” and they are ruined for other women. then they take this magic black pill that turns their hearts to stone, and they go on to become Mimbos, who treat nice women, like me, like the piece of garbage whore who broke their hearts, the good girl becomes the “scapegoat”.
i have watched women like that “jessica” up there, work rooms, work men, suck them in, use them, only to kick them in their teeth the moment their loser “bad boy” comes slithering back into the picture, and this supposed intelligent man always ends up taking this disgusting woman back. Nine times out of ten it is never even remotely apparent to anyone as to what it is the man sees in her, as she clearly has nothing to offer from neither the inside nor out.
It works both ways is the point I am making. It absolutely works the same way with women, minus the abortion part, of course, but you know exactly what i mean. maybe it is something younger women are doing these days, but no good Christian woman with any integrity, conscience, morals, values, and a heart & soul could or WOULD ever use abortion as a means of birth control, it’s just evil beyond words. how she found a man to marry her is disturbing to say the least, but unless she’s made some kind of amends for the evil & thoughtless crap she pulled, then Karma will bite her fat dumpy ass & she will answer to God & likely rot in Hell, while the baby she killed is in a better place & all the better off for not having been subjected to living on this earth with someone like her as a mother.
A really well written article – thanks. It ties together very nicely how such social and sexual changes play into politics and our larger culture.
Sadly while ever women can vote I don’t think it will change. Some women get it but they are a tiny minority. The only serious solution is to stop women voting but they are voting over and over again for mass immigration into western nations so who knows if there will even be a society to save?
Feminism really was the ultimate shit test – and the white man tried to be the “nice guy” and failed it. The Moslem men are passing with flying colours, which is why those girls go on the streets with banners welcoming the Moslem men who will rape them one day. Women want and need strong men, that element of human nature will never change.
I know a lot of shitheads that should’ve been aborted……..
An undeveloped, non-sentient fetus does not deserve more rights than an adult. Abortion isn’t a wonderful thing, but banning it pretty much just results in bloated adoption agencies/orphanages/foster care, poverty, and infanticide. The only practical solution is prevention of pregnancy via contraceptives and access to education and healthcare. And, while it is a very small % of abortions, in cases of rape and incest (especially of a child), it’s a reasonable choice to make. I wouldn’t expect a 12 year-old who was raped by her uncle to carry to term, as doing so could interrupt her education, ruin her social life (it may not matter to adults, but to them, it is significant), and her physical/mental health.
There you go using logic and reason. Don’t you know this is a subject that should be decided by pure emotion like pretty much everyone else on this thread?
The author seems to offer a rosy description of the 1950’s. Maybe things were that good back then. But now (unlike back then) the government can easily track it’s citizens due to improvements in technology. In the 1950’s if the man got a raw deal, and was hit with alimony; he could just move a couple dozen miles away to start over in a new town. Now family court obligations like child support or alimony follow you to the grave. If you are unwilling or unable to pay the government will send men with guns to lock you in a steel cage. I hardly see how turning men into beasts of burden who are chained to one vagina for the rest of their lives makes things better for those men.