140 thoughts on “6 Warning Signs Your Wife Is Planning A Divorce”

1. 7) She refuses to cook
   8) She finds excuses for not having sex

   1. First Warning sign she is planning her divorce from you…You say, “I do”.

      1. I don’t actually believe that most women divorce to enrich themselves, I believe it’s all about harming the man who didn’t live up to the fantasy life they expected before the marriage. Usually they throw the money away fairly quickly. It’s all about control/hate/spite/vindictiveness. Women aren’t driven by logic, they are driven by feelings, and hate is the biggest one.

         1. very accurate. They seem to spend money. White women always say white men are too tight with money, and white men say the reverse about the women being reckless with it. I know of several in my own family, all women, who blew threw fortunes they received either through divorce or being windowed. Its scary how really profligate they can be with money.
            My view is that they don’t appreciate objects ie tools ( not tool makers ) and money is an object. They are also more short termist ( not tribal leaders ), more status driven ( spend spend spend ) and less logical in terms of calculating interest on loan policies.
            Its like the dog dropping the ball and then wondering where it went.

         2. a better word would be ‘resentment’

   2. 9) She starts to get serious about her weight/shape/fitness. This is an obvious sign of her wanting to monkey-branch.

      1. So telling her to go to the gym to lose weight or stay in shape is out of the question>? Do you not see the obvious contradiction? You should be telling her to stay in shape and lose weight from the BEGINNING and form time to time and expect her to be doing it. If she ‘starts to get serious’ than there’s no harm no foul. She SHOULD be getting serious about it if your actually being the fuckin man in the relaitonship – if shes JUST NOW getting serious its because your a beta fuck who never made demands of her from the beginning. 35 cucks have put their thumbs up your ass.

         1. “So telling her to go to the gym to lose weight or stay in shape is out of the question>?”
            That would be called ‘controlling behaviour’, a form of domestic violence, and a legitimate reason for her to divorce you.

         2. apparently if she starts working out shes going to leave you so you should start becoming paranoid right? RIGHT? – forget applauding her for staying hot, shes DEFINITLY going to fuck some other dude – even though your ‘alpha’ shes going to fuck another guy? Right? RIGHT? – hahaha man oh man, betas are fuckin hilarious – throw logic right out the window – instead of YOU being the one telling her to work out if she starts to do it on her youre definitely fucked aimriiiight?? haha oh man – beta mindset is so paranoid

         3. apparently if she starts working out shes going to leave you so you should start becoming paranoid right? RIGHT? – forget applauding her for staying hot, shes DEFINITLY going to fuck some other dude – even though your ‘alpha’ shes going to fuck another guy? Right? RIGHT? – hahaha man oh man, betas are fuckin hilarious – throw logic right out the window – instead of YOU being the one telling her to work out if she starts to do it on her youre definitely fucked aimriiiight?? haha oh man – beta mindset is so paranoid

         4. Instead of you being the one telling her to work out she needs another guy hitting on her to provide the motivation – hahaha holy fuck man, shit is fuckin hilarious – this is like maybe the greatest example for what is fuckin wrong with mens mindset when it comes to bitches; guy thinks he’s using ‘logic’ when he’s really a paranoid beta who fucked up a longass time ago. Don’t you think if shes going to the gym without you asking that maybe she realizes YOU have no fuckin standards??? Nah, that never crosses the betas mindset. “Why would she being going to the gym? I never asked her to? I always tell her shes hot. She could ONLY be going to fuck other guys. Right?” – haha, oh man.
            If your fuckin alpha and she believes it shes already going to the gym to stay hot cuse she knows if she doesn’t shes gone or gunna get shit from you and hear about it. The fact that all these betas are thumbs uping that comment really is the height of mens ultimate ignorance and self-doubt. Instead of acknowledging honestly your own self worth you find a reason to be a paranoid little bitch.
            Say you been in a marriage 20-30 years or some shit and all of a sudden she wants to work out to stay in shape and be healthy, INSTEAD of acknowledging the positive YOU (being a beta bitch) find the negative your a glass half empty kind of loser who only see’s the bad and not the good. Instead of saying “fuck yeah, you need to work out” (assuming you already are) or “fuck yeah, we should work out” (being honest with yourself) your gunna assume its cuse she wants ot fuk some other chad whose already working out cuse your too much a lazy piece of shit too. Not to mention being a glass half empty kind of pessimistic faggot beta that YOU are you don’t realize that its not even about ‘looking the best’ as much as it is about simply embracing personal growth. Instead of making something a positive and spinning it in your favor with your wife, you make it a negative and come off like a little bitch. I fI can sense it in just through an article, she smells it a mile away. No wonder she’s working out, she wants to get away from a beta faggot.

      2. “Oh man, she’s starting to work out! I’m fucked!” – Beta

      3. Thats true the other way around – women are told that a man who suddenly starts taking an interest in his grooming, fitness and hygiene is probably having an affair, whereas he might well have started reading ROK!

   3. She’s from Toronto and you’re an American with an American passport.

   4. 9) doesn’t even try to hide her contempt for you.
      10) criticizes you in front of people.
      11) a sudden insatiable need for books on psychology (and/or self help, new age or Churchianity)…she’s trying to justify her bullshit to herself by reading the eloquent words and phrases of major bullshitters i.e. “i need to find my own. truth”, “trying to get in tune with the cosmos”, “learning to love myself”.
      12) encourages the kids to disrespect you…oftentimes low-key.
      13) suddenly hangs with sluts, ho’s and divorcees.
      14) gets her popular relationship advice from people who themselves are not successful at maintaining healthy proper relationships (in the West that would primarily be Oprah Winfrey – and her sideshow Iyanla Vanzant). These woefully unqualified females have absolutely no idea what they’re talking about and their advice is 9/10 destructive.
      

      1. Well, 9-12 started happening towards me a few years back. Last summer, I finally got fed up with all the bs and told her that I was the one leaving. We are in the process now, but seeing the shell-shock was priceless, given the fact that I was the only one working the past 16 years, providing for a super comfy lifestyle for everyone around me. Over the past 3 years, I had issued a few warnings and stated the consequences if the situation did not change. It was all ignored and ridiculed, until…now I am the bad guy and “where did all this come from”, etc.etc. LOL.

   5. Isn’t it obvious – you get / got divorced because you have no religious backbone. Any bitch you take to Church every Sunday has more than you to answer for – if she has literally any spiritual or religious inclinations whatsoever than her guilt complex will be way to high for her to consider divorcing , let alone sleeping around. You think divorce is the problem here? You guys are all in lala-land – if no religious backbone to the marriage and wedding than you have no reason to jusify getting married in the first place.
      Girls live in the world of blue-pill reality – what does that consist of? It consists of fantasy’s – not reality. If you never got married in a church and never attend church than your chance of divorce is quite a bit higher. Take Catholics for example – regardless of what you think of them, they still have the lowest divorce rates around.
      If you have no religion or fantasy (aka metaphyscial union) holding you two together than you don’t have shit. Marriage ‘outside’ of a religious instituion means shit to a girl and is equal to you writing on a piece of paper “WE’RE MARRIED” and giving it to her.
      The problem isn’t divorce – its what does she consider (in her fantasy reality head) to be the ‘ideal marriage’. Even though marriage has been shit on the last 50-60 years or whatever girls still have that deepseated need to ‘be married’ – which comes along the same time they are hitting the ‘wall’ also.
      The point is who gives a shit about divorce if you have no religious backbone or stability or metaphyscial union to the relationship??? Girls don’t give a fuck about a marriage in the longterm if there’s nothing there which will guilt trip her. Point is to a girl you can never get a ‘divorce’ if you were never really ‘married’ to even begin with. And I’m not talking about just having a wedding and honeymoon or some shit – nah, she needs to totally and completly think you two were suppose ot be together. That only happens with marriages centered around a religious institution. The ‘state’ is NOT a religious institiution, obviously.
      Women divorce men because they can, but also mainly because they have no reaosn (other than daddy provider) to be with a guy. If she hates the dude enough she’ll just find another daddy provider, but if there’s a built in framework surrounding the relationship which cannot be put into words (i.e. religion / metaphyscial) than you will kepe her – maybe not indefinitly in todays society, but you’ll keep her longer than the average atheist / agnostic loser who thinks he can do anything he wants and so the girl thinks the same and what does she do? – Anything she wants – i.e. she’ll leave. Plain and simple.
      Marriage and religion and relationships are all directly correlated. Once religion is cast away than who gives a fuck about ‘marriage’? Only golddigger girls who are looking for ‘big’ weddings and a reason to justify their shitty lives. If no religion, no marriage, plain and simple. All these cucks who think there fine ‘marrying’ a girl outside of a religious institution are the ones who are on here bitching about being divorced. It isn’t to say EVERY rleigious marriage will be ‘happily everafter’ or some shit, but the statistics are pretty clear.

      1. Lol. This has to be accomplished when they are children. They don’t call it patriarchy for nothing.

         1. Nah, only before she loses her virginity – after she loses her virginity all bets are off. Taking a girls virginity ‘seals’ the deal for her – it either makes her or fuckin breaks her. I’m by no means a ‘white-knight’ feeling I need to defend sluts actions, but men need to be honest with themselves and girls when they fuck these girls. You create a slut for every other man to deal with if you have no intention of being with her if you take her virginity. And who knows if shes really a virgin either too right, but if she’s younger, lets say hypothetically pre-college age18-22 or something and she says shes a virgin I’ll believe.
            Don’t get me wrong, theres a lot of fuckin whores out there, but generally speaking the point is taking a girls virginity either locks her down for marriage or opens her up to be a slut. You have a bunch of cuck guys nowadays who don’t knwo what the fuck it even means to be married let alone have a relationship because they were all raised by broken families and single moms and shit so is it any surprise all the girls are trash, nah, not really, but theres a lot of trash dudes too. Point is simply that taking her virginity does ‘mean something’ to her on some sort of level, its true for every girl, even if she denies it. Subconsciously taking a girls virgnity changes her entire reality framework. If your fuckin sluts and taking their virginity and not locking that bitch down for marriage than you need to die because your creating another slut that I’m gunna have to deal with later.

      2. Religious divorce rates are also really high and in NYC now even over 30% of modern orthodox judec marriages end in divorce soooooo…..
         There needs actual things holding you in it during the hard periods and some sort of stigma is one. No man should have to give anything to a women who divorces him and that would kill divorce stone dead – she can provide for herself and him for himself and they leave with what they came with.
         Islamic marriages in many parts of the world have high divorce rates also but then not in other parts. I think legal framework is a huge part of the rate of divorce if it really favors women then they divorce just to control the money and knowing they no longer have to make joint decisions with the kids but can get full custody. Its not as simple as purely religion tho thats a thing.

         1. A1 – yeah good points
            But YI would say yeah you and her NEED unspoken truths in a relationship – religion is just one example but the best one of stigma also – if you and her both believe the same metaphyscial universe than that in and of itself accounts for quite a bit in the relationship – she will ‘feel’ ‘understood’ by you, which is what women crave, they all want to be unqieui because they are all literally cookie cutter, so when you tell a woman shes SOOO SMART or some shit they eat it up because it feeds the individual ego she doesn’t really have but desperatly craves – regardless the point is you need to have some unspoken truths with her to keep it long lasting – marriage without unspoken truths (i.e. courthouse marriage, atheist marriages, etc.) ARE NOT subsitutes, they are an illusion because you two don’t really believe anything unspoken ….
            But honestly man, a ‘marriage’ OUTSIDE of a religious instituation is a fucking joke, and girls feel the same – a ‘marriage’ outside of a religious institution IS NOT a marriage – so to a girl YOU TWO were never fucking married to even begin with in her mind – maybe EARLY ON it won’t bother her, BUT LATER on it’ll fuck with her head and she’ll want out – GUAREN-FUCKIN-TEED

         2. Judaic law advises that a woman that feels unsatisfied by her husband has grounds for divorce. Now I’m sure that the good rabbis that came up with that idea (rabbis have to pleasure her daily, merchants weekly; that is the rule of … ahem … thumb here) had no idea of the internet or Tyrone inciting jungle fever when these laws were codified. Nonetheless, it’s apparent that Jewry is not the best lead for marital standards. No doubt the katuba (pre-marital contract) that is required for marriage had much more effect on marital stability than Hymie’s trimmed foreskin. Since the modern JAP has become much more shiksa-savvy, it seems that the chickens have come home to roost, kosher though it may be

      3. >the average atheist / agnostic loser who thinks he can do anything he wants
         The superior, non-loser atheist doesn’t have to think this way at all.
         A patriarchal atheism makes sense because women exist, and men can observe them, just like we can observe everything else in reality – the stars, the weather, the tides, the economy, subatomic particles, etc.
         By contrast, we can’t observe our traditional “supernaturals,” as anthropologists call them, despite what the people claimed on those foolish “ghost hunting” shows popular on cable a few years ago.
         If this empirical approach to understanding women’s nature supports the traditional patriarchal view of women as weak and irrational beings who need guidance by male authority to keep them out of trouble – well, you can’t blame that outcome on a god now, can you?

         1. The point was about ‘unspoken’ truths – aka (metaphysical unions) – an unspoken truth to a girl is a powerful thing, it helps to ground a relationship if she believes something that she can’t speak against – if you can’t empirically judge it IN ANY WAY than it makes for the ultimate in unspoken truths- but you, being a sick fuck (aka materialist) doesn’t give a shit about marriage anyways – so just go on fucking your whores and sluts and leave marriage to the people who actually see its intrinsic value

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      4. Women do not possess a true understanding of religion; they do not feel true guilt. They are like Esau; if they cry it’s only because of consequences.
         Endless women in the Churches divorce/leave their husbands and their fellow hens in the Churches cluck to them in approval. The man is always at fault and thus ostracized. The women team together to destroy the man via endless gossip and he will then be seen as a leper. Guilty until proven innocent.
         A woman raised a more homogeneous community/Church obviously is better than none at all, but women with freedom is still similar to taking chains off a demon, they will always abuse it and use it for evil.
         Sometimes the religious women are more evil/crazy too. One really devout guy I know he married; the woman stopped giving sex(this is very common amongst religios women) and he ended up looking at some porn online. She divorced him saying its the same as committing adultery.
         Another guy I know married a “Christian” woman, after marriage she wanted all his money, he said I can’t afford it; she stopped giving him sex indefinitely; that marriage ended quick.
         Women must be religious, but have their freedoms taken away. They must not have any say or influence in the Churches(women have never contributed anything good to doctrine or theology; they only ever promote heresy and false doctrine)
         Women have made most churches places of castration; any man to join must chop his balls off and hand them over.
         The woman I married claimed/showed dedicated religious devotion and it ended too, same type of reasons; women will only use freedom for evil.
         That one reformed pastor, Mark something; his wife committed adultery during their betrothal period, but the fool still married her. Why? Despite him being a sad beta, collectively men realize that women in the Church are degenerate whores, often they join the Church after they’ve ridden 50-100 men and decided to find mr.beta to settle down with.

         1. SLIPPERY
            They don’t feel guilt? How could men ever shame them then? Have men NEVER shamed women?
            It depends on the church man. You sound like you went to some non-denominational / protestant shit ; i.e. relativistic zombie land. Non-denominational / Protestantism / Lutheran’s are all relativist’s man. Anyone who believes ‘sola-scriptura’ is a fuckin beta with no balls. Sola-scriptura is ALL based on ‘feeling’ and your OWN personal ‘interpretation’ of scripture. Girls from non-denominational churches are some of the biggest sluts man, why? Cuse MOST are ‘reformed’ / ‘born-again’ virgins. By no means do I wanna pigeon hole people and dog on them for trying to better themselves, but generally speaking protestants / non-denominational / evangelicals / luthereans – all of these sola scriptura faggots are about as beta male as it gets man. There pov of the gospels is ENTIRELY subjective – how do you think a girls gunna react when married to some shit like that, “Oh, just use your FEELINGS honey” – “How do you FEEL?” – —She says,”I want a divorce” – “If you feel you must” – bahahaha, fuckin joke.

         2. Christianity was once a religion with many positives but modern Christianity the Bible is not something even the Pope makes his decisions based on. It used to be the backbone of patriachy and support families but these days its a farce.
            You actually have the first religion that became atheist throughout and is just maintained mostly just for the collection plates ad because they have nothing else to do. You cannot seriously say you believe in God and the bible and then advocate gay marriage. You could only do that if deep down you had no real fear of Hell.

         3. Pope doesn’t make decisions based on the bible? Da fuck you talkin bout? You got 2,000+ years of philosophical theology that says otherwise – the burden of proof is on you to prove otherwise, goodluck

   6. Most of the shit listed on here is beta bitching that should never occur in the first place. All I see are lists about what the beta forgot to do to keep his bitch in line and she one up’ed his dumbass
      The basic problems you’ll encounter in any relationship should be solved and put to rest LONG before you ever get fuckin married. A lot of it comes down to just basic shit tests men don’t know how to pass. If you’ve been buying or making her ass dinner since date numero uno, and then try to flip the script later on by getting her ass to do some cooking good fuckin luck their chump.
      Thats just one example of dozens and dozens of little bullshit that adds up over the years and if you don’t know what the fuck your doing you probably do deserve to be divorced. If I’m a girl and acting like a bitch its cuse your even more of a bitch than me. Fuckin beta faggots on here rationalizing their shitty little lives. The girl doesn’t owe your dumbass any respect if you act like more of bitch than her, holy fuck. I don’t want to see hot, respectable, ‘god-fearing’ sluts with beta faggots just because he pays the bills, that motherfucker better learn some game, cuse I put in loads of fuckin effort on game and self-improvement, and as long as the girl keeps her shit together than were good – but these fuckin lists man…holy fuck, its like cry baby bullshit because you fucked up early on. I get it ok, were all fuckin beta from time to time, every guy has some potential to be sort of alpha, but these fuckin lists man, this shit is beta as all fuck – just cause the betas fuck up with girls they should’ve never been with in the first place doesn’t mean every man needs to follow these faggy lists. These lists are the equvalent of male hamstering…..we get, you fucked up and married a girl before ever gaming her correctly and laying the correct foundation, but its too fuckin late, game over, you can’t flip the script and think all’s well that ends well. She needs gamed hard and good from the start – if you somehow end up with her without gaming her right your fucked if you think your gunna flip the script later on her.

      1. The only beta here is you.

         1. It takes one to know one.

   7. After 30 years, mine did it, I didn’t have a clue and she had been planning for a year before announcing. You missed the ‘no kissing’ clue, they will still fuck you, but they won’t kiss you.

      1. John your comment is so ridiculously accurate. The no kiss is definitely a tell tale sign. Honestly never gave it a ton if thought will now.

      2. Whores don’t kiss, though they will blow. All about the intimacy. No kiss implies mere coupling. Animals don’t kiss either. It’s what separates us.
         That was definite sign, neon and on a billboard

         1. Streetwalkers don’t kiss.
            Escorts do it all the time — sometimes so much it gets annoying.

   8. This article is entirely post-marriage rationalizations – you didn’t notice ANY of the obvious redflags and shit tests and understand what she wants BEFORE marrying her, so now you have to deal with the monster you created – why do so many fucks on here take themsleves OUT of the EQUATION??? YOU fucked up, its not difficult to understand, YOU never gamed her right form the start and you were a beta too many times when you needed to be alpha, you let your ‘love’ and feelings rule ANY logic, you let her dumbass run all over you, you failed, end of fuckin story – everything else is rationalzating bullshit…
      men don’t need to know POST marriage what the fuck went wrong, they need to know themslves BEFORE they ever even enter marriage and how to actually deal with and talk to women – this how article is based on the asumption that your gunna ‘figure out’ what she’s doing BEHIND your back so to speak – its fuckin retarded and not to mention fuckin womanly – she’s gunna think whatever the fuck she wants to think in her little head of hers, the best a man can do is to make peace with himself first and foremost and to be simply fuckin HONEST with his intentions with her, not just everyday intentions, but year to year as well.
      You don’t have to constantly ‘game’ the bitch to death your whole marriage, but you do need to have some shit which is ‘unspoken’ rules and ‘unspoken’ truths – so many guys just seem like they ‘give up’ on life – get your shit together and be eternally motivated and happy to even be fuckin alive – girls get divorced for the same reaosn they break up – you either care too fuckin much or not at all – just give her what she fuckin wants with some honesty attached – all these fuckin guys ‘gaming’ major hard but are totally dishonest with themselves and their own lifestyles. I mentioned religion holding a relationship together because its an unspoken ‘truth’ in a relationship – if oyu don’t have ANY unspoken truths than you dont really have a relationship or at least not one that matters to her in a lasting way. Just being daddy provider will only go so far fo so long, you’ll eventually be replaced if your ONLY ‘daddy / provider’ to her.

      1. The point isn’t to rationalize, but to realize that you could do everything right, keep your frame and STILL get fucked, especially nowadays. There could be zero red flags before the marriage then whaddya know, a few years later through a combination of the wall approaching, pop culture influences and poisonous friends and she’s become a something you didn’t marry, but she’s good at keeping the changes from you until the axe falls.
         A guy needs to know what the signs are rather than getting blind sided. That isn’t rationalizing, that’s just having situational awareness. Easy to say it’ll never happen to you – until it does.

         1. Disagree – what your saying is in and of itself a rationalization – YOU want to believe your helpless and ‘system’ has totally fucked you over – and while society is pretty fucked up, it isn’t ALL that ‘bad’ either – how many black pills you swallow? Your only suppose to take one not the whole bottle….
            Bro, you BECOME what you PUT YOUR THOUGHTS too – I know plenty of rational (I would say subjectivly ‘better’ than average) guys who marry girls which STAY with them – why? Because they don’t expect to get divocred and they are in a CONSTANT state of ‘growth’ – ALL a girl cares about is that you are ‘appear’ to HAVE SHIT HAPPENING – THAT YOU appear to be in a state of ‘growth’ and not decay.
            I aint tryin to be a dick here man, but the honest to god truth is guys that get divocred have LOW fuckin standards (generally speaking), are NOT in a state of perceived ‘growth’, and more often THAN NOT have no religious backbone – by religious backbone I mean they ARE NOT DOGMATIC – HAVING Aa beta philosophical code of ‘ethics’ which is subjective and changes with the wind WILL never keep her ass locked down – why? BEcause girls WANT to mimic THEIR man – if your behavior and ethics changes and she knows it does, so will her’s . . .
            I’m not tryin to be a dick here man, but the guys that get blindsides is because they fucked up somewhere along the way and were either too plugged into the system or too beta to ever realize it. Knowing what the fuck the signs are AFTER doens’t even matter because you already fucked up. Dude, betas with wives literally ALWAYS act beta around their girl man – its not ONE or two or three seperate things its LITERALLY everything he does with her – the WHOLE reason girls (beta sluts) stay with beta males is perceieved ‘power’ over the guy – she gets to make her shitty demands and he obeys – hook, line, and sinker – 85 –
            95% of what he did in the relaionship was probabbly beta as all fuck man.
            I’m not here to sugar coat it, yeah the cards are stacked against guys, but if you got divorced its MOST likely because your a fuckin beta. The rest of this is just smoke and mirrors and male rationalizations.

         2. Think about is Joe – would a hottie with a kid(s), with dogmatic religious inclinations, AND a husband who has his shit together and is alpha EVER leave him? Fuck no? Why would she? There would literally be no point.
            If the husband is alpha – or at least she perceives him to be – and is in a somewhat stable level of ‘growth’ and not decay the girl doesn’t have any reason to leave – she already snagged the ‘best’ – not to mention if you have a bunch of kids why would she leave?
            She would really ONLY leave if she was a real fuckin whore man – like take away one of the main good fators above and you have a secret slut in the making. No religious background = slut / no kid(s) = slut / no husband with his shit together = slut.
            You would think this shit is common sense but clearly its been so fuckin distorted it needs reiterated. Yeah, we know bro, society is shit and the cards are stacked against you – if YOU don’t notice ANY red flags with your girl its cuse your a fuckin idiot and as beta as they get man. I’m not gunna sit here and blame society for every fuckin thing. Though it can be blamed for a shit ton. When it comes to personal relationships economics is a huge factor, BUT so is ommon sense.
            There is literally no reason for a girl to leave (nor any desire on her part as well) to leave you if YOU have your shit together in some way, you two have kid(s), AND you have the same religious undertones. Marriages fail because your missing one of those key things. Some guys have BUILT their ENTIRE fucking lives around thinking ONLY being provider for her IS ENOUGH. Honestly that’s about as blue pill as it gets. Being provider is definitely part of the equation of having your shit together, but its not the end all be all. Again, its about her perceiving you to be ‘alpha’ by being in a state of constant ‘growth’ of some kind. So many fucks on here talkin bout hypergamy, yeah hypergamy is somewhat relevant, but thy also act like THATS the end all be all as well – its not. Every girls ‘hypergamy scale (if you wanna call it that) is different. Sure, every bitch likes the top dog, but every girl will ‘settle’ for a ‘lesser’ guy as long as he is perceived to be ‘top dog’ – if that weren’t true no men would ever get married and marriage would have died out long ago, but girls ‘scale’ of who is ‘top dog’ is simply based on whether a man appears to have somekind of ‘upward’ mobility.
            By the way, YOU become what you put your mind too man. If your trying to PREVENT divorce you most likely will end up having the opposite effect. Girls sniff that shit out man, they have noithing better to do. If you don’t stick to your guns and continue on YOUR path of ‘upward’ mobility and if you get derailed by a bitch than she’ll resent you. Girls (WIVES) are meant to tag along. She’s meant to be support NOT numero uno. Here’s an alpha guy example for you – think of Chef Ramsey, comes off like an asshole right, but he’s got some natural alpha leaning traits. Its practically undeniable you DON’T know what his expectations are if your a chef in his kitchen. His the lead, and you better fuckin follow suit or your gone. Relationships are the same shit. If she doesn’t follow suit, she’s fuckin gone. Ramsey will chew you up and spit you out if you backtalk, if you don’t do what your SUPPOSE to do, if your not where you NEED to be, etc etc. Same is true with relationships, if she doesn’t know what you want, she’ll eventually make up her own fucking mind, and you’ll end up in the dog house. But if your too much of a fuckin bitch to not speak your mind than you probably deserve it. Life is all a learning lesson, even at 50 and getting divorced. “Why did we get divorced!?” – Its probably cuse you had no fuckin standards to even begin with and she finally had to make up her own damn mind.
            So many men on here HAVE NO fucking standards. Have some fuckin balls and say what you mean and mean what you say, for fucks sake. All this pseudo-alpha male posturing.

         3. good point mostly john doe but some men cannot get the 20% of women with some sense of decency and basic morality so they are struggling and they feel lucky to get some tramp and pretend to themselves it will be fine.
            Standards are the same as standards with looks where an ugly man cannot get a hot woman and a low smw man must take nothing or the risky woman.

         4. Regardless of your situation or spouse choice, it isn’t “beta” to be aware of the warning signs any more than it’s fatalist to be aware of any other risk in life.

         5. The “20%” stat is reserved for chad fucking ALL of the girls – its not applicable to women – to say the ‘good’ 20% of women is imo way inaccurate – its probably like 1-5% are ‘good’ – by ‘
            good’ I’m saying legit red-pill church girls who are country bumpkins who were raised by alpha men who haven’t been infested by technoology – NOT amish bitches, but girls who more or less are virgins / hot / and unindoctrinated – there is no such thing as the ‘good 20%’ of girls – the 20% figure is a stat from the ‘Rational Male’ website about the 20% of chads who go around fucking all of the girls while the betas never have sex – you ever wonder why it seems like EVERY fuckin girl is probably getting sex while NO fucking guys arE? It’s because the 20% of dudes are fucking all of the girls, thats why.
            But there is no such thing as the ‘top 20%’ of women.
            Bytheway, I don’t recal saying knowing the warning signs as being ‘beta’ – I’m saying that if you NEED to know the warning signs and you got divorced then yes, your beta. Knowing the warning signs is ‘fine’ if your not in a committed marriage – the whole point I was making was if your already married and shes divorced your ass or if you ‘notice’ some of this shit going on its WAY to fucking late to recover – whats the point of knowing any of this shit if she’s already doing it to you? If she won’t kiss you after 10 years of marriage you fucked up major at some point.

         6. The % of ‘good girls’ is based on the percent of alpha dad’s they were raised under….I’m talkin legit natural redpilled alphas – not these pseduo-male faggots – pseduoamale faggot is the following (bikers, beer drankers, guys who listen to metal, guys who shun responsabilities, men who have no duty towards their state or family, men who think being a ‘marine’ makes them ‘alpha, men who think going hunting or shooting guns is ‘alpha’, etc. etc.) The list goes on and on…owning shit to look ‘alpha’ DOES NOT make you alpha…ownign expensive ‘toys’ is NOT alpha…some of the men who are closest to alpha MIGHT be marine or occasional hunt or whatever, but generally speaking the % of REAL alpha’s out there is so fucking small that the actual percent of real ‘good’ girls is incredibly small as well.
            I would say men who were in the military are generally more ‘alpha’ than men who are not, BUT that’s not always the case, espcially nowadays. Generally speaking if you want to find the ‘good’ girl you find the real alpha’s, not these pseduo-male faggots with no religion, no responsabilitys, no duty to their country, who think getting wasted or high is ‘legit’, who think riding a motercycle is ‘badass’ – most men –
            like 95% are NOT and will never fall under alpha category – the best they can do is do their dutys and make themselves the best they can be – being alpha does not mean you are a ‘king’ (i.e. Return of Kings), but it means your a master of yourself, you rule over yourself and know how to interact with society and others without running away from society.
            Dont’ get me wrong, theres tons of ‘church’ girls but few who are raised in dogmatic households and who actually are legit and not putting on a pseduo-redpill-girl show for you. I’ve known plenty of country girls who appear ‘redpill’ but its mostly (99% of the time) a show to simply attract another ‘country guy’ – the TRADCON girls are not ‘redpill’ its just another mask a girl wears. ‘Real’ redpill girls who are ‘good’ and worth your time are raised under the few legitimate natural redpill men.
            Point being that the percent of real ‘good’ girls your gunna find are in a dogmatic religious institution and are probably homeschooled and overlorded by a high quality alpha guy who keeps a short leash on her; she will probably have brothers, and will probably not have technology either. The percent of those girls is incredibly small. Were essentially talking about girls who are the age to ‘date’ (a natural redpill alpha dad most likely won’t approve of dating) but are not indocrinated at all in society and have been around other men (her brothers) who have natural redpill tendencies. The percent of THOSE girls are the ‘unicrons’ or whatever. But your only going to get her if your not a fuckup, cuse no way her dad would allow it otherwise.
            Long story short is the percent of girls who are worth anything is the same as the percent of natural redpill alpha’s out there – which is probably like 5% of the population is even that.

      2. There are clearly two groups of men and the almost half of American men who are married still need advice.
         Men marry substandard women because of a lack of better options. The top 20% of semi-honorable women may not be available to you.

      3. the obvious answer even for vitamin to save themselves from all of the problems it’s simply not get themselves involved and getting married where they give up all of their rights through the contract.
         MEN, JUST DONT GET MARRIED! IT DOESNT GUARANTEE PUSSY ON DEMAND. IT ONLY GUARANTEES YOU LOSING ALL YOUR RIGHTS, KIDS, AND MONEY. JUST DONT DO IT.

         1. The only reason you wouldn’t marry is because YOU (the man) have no standards or religious inclinaitions – saying ‘don’t get marry!’ is the same thing as saying ‘just fuck all the girls who aren’t married’ – do I want society to be just ONE big fuckin orgy?????? Fuck no man. Society’s already fucke dup enough. Only mgtow faggots and atheist/agnostic betas with no morality advocate never getting married.

      4. well why dont you collect your pages of prose and write your article for submission. your collection of posts is longer than the last three articles all together.

         1. Meh – not as fun

         2. Its not a ‘conversation’ if I’m just posting some shit – if I can reply to statements THATS how you figure shit out – if I just posted some article the chumps will just make their little pithy remarks and nothing comes of it – but when you reply to someones comments – those comments by those people are what is relevant – someone cared enough to make a comment about ‘something’ they thought was relevant – just making an article doesn’t really do anything – when people read an article they either agree or disagree – if they agree what hacve they learned except to be a yesman – if they disagree what have they learned except to rattle off their little candid remarks for disagreement – people don’t learn like that generally speaking – if someone makes an individual comment for whatever reason its cuse they care about ‘something’ just enough to write about it – granted theres time and place for pithy remarks which don’t really deserve analysus or a breakdown – but itde be way too much for me to make articles on here – too much of what I think contradicts a lot of what the readers here think is ‘alpha’

   9. 9- she’s from some 3rd world shithole.

2. Women are always like petulant children. No matter their age, the mental immaturity never leaves. Great article with solid insight.

3. UH OH! This article starts out in the right direction but misses the opportunity to set things straight for ANY MAN who is thinking about getting married..
   Mention prenups at first discussion on any marriage proposal talk by HER, (remember she is planning her divorce moths or years ahead of time) and then frequently there after (therefore there is no duress or pressure to sign, she will always know where you stand).
   You want a TRUTH detector for your relationshit, that will be it….you will instantly find out the truth. Any man who doesn’t utter that first before a proposal is a simping cuck in waiting.

   1. Oops, forgot to subscribe.

   2. Put all your assets in a trust and lock’em up so no one can pry them away from your cold dead hands, leave property and any money to your kids, preferably your sons, exclude the mother from total control of any finances or get your genitals ripped through your wallet…

      1. You comment made me think about something else that may be a spoiler for her. IF you go and get you name registered as a corporation, you can then get your assets title in your corporate name. that would force her to have to sue your corporation to get a pay out instead of family court. A civil court requires that suits be brought for reason that must be proven that a harm was inflicted. In family court, they cant go after a corporation they have to go after the individual who is named in the marriage contract/license. As long as your corporation doesn’t ‘marry ” her…you should be good if as you purchase (even if jointly) you sign the contracts in your CORPORATE NAME and identity but only sign your marital contract in your Individual identity. You made a great point. A corporate trust should protect your interests even if it came down to divorce and division of assets later. She cannot negotiate with you or force you to give her anything in family court if you point out to the judge to relook at all the joint contracts signed are signed by a corporate entity, and not your personal entity. the best they can do is accuse you of not acting in good faith in your joint ownership when entering into the contract. Thanks for mentioning trusts.

         1. Neal, you are obviously up on the legal extortion system in regards to the mysandry of family courts, divorce law, judges, cops, attorneys, etc. Back in the 70s, as a younger man, I worked with an older guy who’s wife filed for divorce. This guy was sharp, and he saw it coming. He made up legal bills of sale and sold his truck, motorcycle, and guns to his dad and brother for the sum of $1.00 each. He also gave all his cash to his dad and brother to hide, got his bug out bag, and he moved into his brother’s home. His wife challenged the sum of $1.00 each, but evidently then (1978, and in liberal St.Paul, MN too) he was in the right, and she lost on that one. Is this still legal?

         2. @antonio zoli, wont work these days in family court. they will say “fair market value”. better to create a shadow trust in a corporate business name that you get made, the sell it to corporate entity of yourself. once a lawyer , if they are lazy, sees the sale to a corporate entity, they often dont research it further and accept it as a legit sale, so you can get away with it. sell it or donate it to your alter ego. again family courts are not civil or bankruptcy courts so they cannot tamper with corporate entities unless the corporation has harmed them, BUT that is not legal advice, but a reflection on experience. if i had known back then waht i know now, id have done a hella lot more..maybe even gotten a god parent or trustee appointed before divorce family court in order to run interference on the family court. as i said if knew then……

      2. I claim no knowledge regarding legal issues and have always heard if the prize the lawyer gets at the end justifies the costs, even trusts must be structured with extreme diligence and forward thinking. If done wrong, complex offshore schemes too, can be penetrated if enough resources is thrown at them and the lawyer expects to make a killing. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/30/magazine/how-to-hide-400-million.html, Whether it’s a divorce or a medical malpractice case, it’s always the lawyer who wins, so definitely some lawyer proofing is in order for the average guy not just the ultra wealthy.

      3. Giving women money is like giving it to a monkey: they blow it without understanding. Problem with modernity is you say that heuristic to a woman and she will say “where the evidence” and she also say its a “stereotype” which really just means its a generalization which means it has consolatory effect if it is not always true. but honestly if leftist Universities don’t agree to research something she can never consider it. She rejects all wisdom and heuristics as dogma which accounts for about 99% of historic human culture and wisdom. Don’t leave money to women in your Will: that should be an article and an understanding.

         1. consolatory –> i meant correlation

4. Why are the cans on the cartoon woman so huge…..?

   1. Gravity and her parachute harness…

   2. Jane.
      Because men like women with big cans.

5. When she sees a psychologist, especially a female psychologist, it’s a major red flag.
   Nowadays modern psychology is a tool for encouraging wives to cuck their husbands and mercilessly rob the fuck out of them.

   1. Social workers and feminist teachers also do this shit to break up families in Canada.

      1. Which province you’re at?

6. Excellent article, counselor! As a never married 60 year old man, I thank god daily that I’ve been spared at least this one trial in life, and I’ve been able to put the female gender in my rear view mirror once and for all. I see a lot of parallels in the points of this article with employers getting ready to throw you under the bus too. It’s taken me years to both hone and accept my BS/SOB intuitive and detection skills, but I find it mind numbing how naive and obtuse many men are with these clear and blatant signs that a woman is getting ready to file for divorce. I’ve both heard from attorneys, and have read, that 80% of divorces are filed by women. As the counselor succinctly pointed out, few of these divorces are the results of abuse (and other aberrant behavior), so I submit that there are a lot of unhappy, selfish, self-actualized, and delusional women out there. I’ve seen friends, coworkers, and family members blind sided and divorce raped, or rather, divorce sodomized. The counselor’s point on wives quitting or losing their jobs should have been a red flag for these guys, yet they were naively and foolishly overlooked. I have seen some signs where this tactic may be losing some validity (and the counselor would be able to substantiate this if legitimate). I worked with a guy who’s wife held an MBA, and quit her job suddenly, against his wishes, as a CPA, to become a lady of leisure. She subsequently filed for divorce and asked for huge vaginamony. The male judge looked at the documents and noted she held an MBA, and had recently quit her job as a CPA. His denied her request for vaginamony, and he stated “young lady, you need to find a job”. Another former friend of mine had his wife quit her job as an RN, and took a part-time job in a department store for $9.00 per hour, all while refusing to contribute to the household budget, and rat-holing every penny she earned (and he didn’t see this as a red flag?). She also let her nursing credentials expire. Despite the warnings from myself, and others, to get a bug out bag ready, and prepare for an exit strategy, he found himself facing trumped up abuse charges (heard this is a common legal ploy to extract the man from his domicile) and was extracted from his home (that he made all the mortgage payments on) by the cops. He was allowed 15 supervised minutes to collect whatever he could. He ended up living in my spare bedroom for three months free of charge until he could get an apartment. His wife asked for major vaginamony, and was awarded it for two years. The female judge stated “madam, this will eventually run out, so I suggest you get your nursing credentials renewed and find employment”. The abuse charges were also dropped due to insufficient evidence (and she got what she wanted; her juicy vaginamony settlement). I’ve also been told by attorneys, and read, that about 80% of abuse charges filed on men are false, and are dismissed due to lack of evidence (again, the counselor can substantiate this if accurate). As she exited the court, she smugly told my former friend that she was going to go to clubs with her divorcee cougar girlfriends on his legal extortion vaginamony, and pick up young guys who’d be all over her. She was then in her late 50s, and average looking on her best day. Last I heard, she’s now 61, living in an efficiency apartment in a bad neighborhood, is making $9.00 an hour as a CNA, her vaginamony is long gone, she gets EBT, HUD, and other supplemental social welfare (which we all pay for of course), and has had an offer from a man in his 80s to be his sugarbaby/mistress. The wall can be brutal! God’s justice be done.

7. what can she take from you when you are broke ? if i marry a beautiful girl 10/10 virgin and she is rich, then difforced me because its trendy.- what would a diforce do to me?

   1. She can force you to pay alimony and you will have to give up your passport as a lien.

   2. It’ll never happen, women don’t marry down. If she’s rich, her husband will need to be richer.

      1. @ JD
         Very, very true.
         My reptile of a sister dumped her first husband when she was 36. A real good, hardworking guy that I still consider a friend. She slutted around for a while until she found what she was looking for. A very, very rich fat guy 20 years her senior. But the funny thing is he doesn’t take shit from her. He’s the boss and she has to take shit from him. It was funny to watch. And all because he made her sign a prenup. Smart old guy.

8. Wife…? LOL

9. The seeing a psychologist or counselor is by the biggest especially if you have a lot of assets and children up for grabs and they want total victory. If she hides ANY medical appointments from you its best to start hiding and reassigning assets. All too often men just ruin it by confronting them about it or the woman knows everything about the money, property and can sometimes turn the man’s own family against him. A lot of men are just too unfucking clueless in life and give WAY too much trust to their wife. In your twenties, it can be forgiven but 30s, 40s and beyond?

10. #7. You’re the only one home & there’s 2 police cruisers waiting outside your house, but you don’t live in a high crime neighbourhood.

11. If you can make peace with the fact that you will lose half, and a large chunk of your paycheck going forward (you have to accept this eventually, and the sooner the better)..
    then.. dear lord.. go fucking celebrate.
    I do not understand why this article takes an onerous tone. This is just a very expensive emancipation. Marriage is expensive, and you celebrated, divorce is more expensive but the door to a whole new world. Rejoice! Party!

12. Speaking from experience…
    1. She racks up debt or take out lines of credit of which you are not aware, regardless if your name is actually on the account or not.
    2. She asks you to co-mingle pre-marital funds into a joint account or use them to give her a special gift like a vacation.
    3. She presses you to take on any kind of debt as an investment into a jointly owned home. Yup you will spend your hard earned cash to upgrade a home that you will soon only see when you visit your kids.
    4. She finds an excuse to set up a separate domicile for reasons such as the commute is too far (which is common in urban areas with lots of traffic).
    5. She wants to quit her job without cause using an excuse such as “I want to take care of the kids” (prepping for alimony) or “I want to go back to school to get X degree” (same and splitting student loan debt).
    6. She took time off to raise kids, but now that they are in school or old enough to watch each other while she works, still she will decline to go find a job. This is how she is building a claim for both alimony and increased child support
    7. She asks you to work more hours to pay for X things the family needs. Most child support and alimony equations only take into account your income in the last 5-7 years. If you have a sudden increase for a year or two a judge is going to enhance her payout artificially even though your base pay would not support it. There is a man who is sitting in jail now for “non-payment” of alimony because his business had 3 good years followed by several bad years where he was unable to pay himself any dividends. No matter. Feminist judge orders him to pay more then he had ever made in the last five years in alimony to his wife. Big surprise when he couldn’t do it.
    8. Valuables start disappearing. She is pawning them or selling them on CL for cash. That cash is going into a place where you will never find it.
    9. She talks about taking a job out of state but don’t worry you can “see her on the weekends”. She is venue shopping (and probably also mate shopping too). Also setting up a case to divide you from the kids because she will get primary custody and if you want to see them it will be on you to travel.
    10. She gets weird toward the end of the year. It is a common tactic divorce attorneys deploy to press a client to leave their spouse before the end of a calendar year. Why? The threat of filing tax as individuals creates a huge liability mostly for the higher income earner (or husband). It is another bargaining chip they use to settle and cheat you out of hard earned cash.
    11. She calls the police after a minor dispute. Makes “real” or false claims you hit or touched her. Even if the police find no cause, doesn’t matter. She still has the report and that is evidence enough to make you an abuser and get a restraining order which will effectively kick you out of your own house.
    12. She starts hiding the mail or opens up a PO box somewhere local. Chances are she is getting bills, bank account statements, or letters from her lawyer she does not want there to a be a chance you will ever see. Same thing goes if she get secret about her email account all of the sudden.
    13. She seems emotionally withdrawn for an extended period of time and/or starts taking drugs for it. Women who are married, especially who have kids, just don’t up and leave marriages with a day’s notice. It is an agonizing decision that takes them months to justify, if not years. Yeah if you beat her or routinely go in and out of jail (that is either going to help you in an Alpha male way or hurt you) this might not be the case. But, all of my friends who have been divorced would start complaining about how their wives “just weren’t there” and sometimes that lasted for 12-18 months before the axe fell.
    14. Your stuff just starts disappearing. There is a common clause in divorce settlements that whoever has certain property after it is signed they become the owner. This could be small stuff or it could things that were in storage. If you can’t find your baseball card collection that might be worth a few hundred dollars chances are your wife has it stowed away in a storage locker somewhere. Once the divorce is finalized, unless you make a specific objection or provision (even if you don’t have proof she took it), it becomes hers and she will sell it.
    15. Your properly filed financial documents look like they have been messed with. Your wife’s attorney, assuming she is smart enough to engage one before she separates from you, will want to see all your documents. That means retirement, insurance, mortgage, the whole nine yards. It is the job of the attorney to review these and let the client know the best date of separation (sound sick, eh? perfectly legal and ethical though). This could be after you get a yearly bonus or your retirement account matches. If you are going to make big bucks on a contract payout the separation date will be the day after that check is cashed.
    What not to expect is having a PI follow you around or trying to dig up dirt on some secretary you banged years ago. All states are now “no-fault” which means you really don’t need a reason for a divorce other then you want one. That stuff is good for TV shows, but judges don’t care. Yeah if you were a Grade A asshole who beat your wife, cheated on her, and never cared for the kids expect the judge to come down on you a little harder, but most judges just want to split the assets and will follow the state issued formulas for child support and alimony (which are discriminatory to men and they know it).
    Don’t let a divorce attorney tell you are you are “entitled” to this or that. You are entitled to nothing other then around 50% of your marital assets and whatever child support/alimony your state law provides for given the income of the parties. You can work in the margins and maybe get a 60/40 split or a few hundred off an alimony payment, but that will be made up by lawyer costs in the long run.
    If your wife files for divorce just get out. Have your lawyer offer her a reasonable settlement and stick to it. If she is stubborn just stick with it. Sooner or later her lawyer is going to tell her she is going to get nothing better at trial. She will take it and leave. If you have no kids build a “no contact” order into the settlement if you can in your state. You will never want to talk to her again anyhow. If you have kids make sure the child custody rules are specific. If you want the kids “every other holiday” make sure holiday is defined even if that means President’s Day, MLK Day, and Veterans Day. Include a damn calendar of holidays circling each one that you and your wife will trade off until each kid is 18.
    One last things. This might sound weird. But have in writing somewhere the last date (or close to it what you can remember) you and your wife had sex. That way if a year later she pops up pregnant you have some evidence it is not your kid (DNA testing has helped out a lot with this but still a good tactic). Also go get a full STD panel. Unless you were screwing around, if you come back positive for something like HSV2 and can link it to her then you have an additional cause of action (and some more leverage) to keep more of your money. (Plus you can tell people she was a whore).
    Most men, 95%+ currently, will get married at least once in their lifetime. Best to know what to expect if you do. It is not all bad, but when it goes bad it just gets worse.
    Pre-nups, in most states are largely shit, but can protect you to some extent. Investigate them fully especially if you have significant pre-marital assets, but make sure to do it with a lawyer who practices that area of law. Don’t just get some legal form and think you are fine.

    1. @Jeff
       #6 is a biggie. Most men just assume she doesn’t want to go to work. What will also start happening is that she suddenly has medical problems where she can’t work, wrecks the car and then suddenly goes borderline on you. Big tell to watch for.

       1. I hate to say it because a wife at home raising your kids is the best family situation if you can afford it on one income. But, encouraging your wife to work is going to reduce any potential divorce rape. A judge just isn’t going to give her “stay at home mom” alimony if she has a history of holding down a real job. Her lawyer might complain that with primary custody of the kids she can’t work, but a judge will tell her too bad she can work and must work. Unless you get a feminist judge or were a grade A asshole when married who couldn’t give two fucks about the the kids that is going to be the answer 99% of the time. Single moms do not get the “stay at home option and collect full alimony/child support without a husband around” option in this day and age. Women with professional experience can work and if they want to dump their husband most judges will expect them to do so.

13. If she says YOU should get a vasectomy because SHE doesn’t want any more kids. She doesn’t want you to have any more kids because that would justify cutting back on the share of your money she’s getting.
    If SHE doesn’t want more kids, SHE should get herself fixed. She might die and then you could have more kids.
    Just tell her to get fixed. She’s planning a divorce anyhow and this won’t be the cause.

    1. Mine tried to convince me to get a vasectomy while she was secretly planning the divorce, this appears very common. I don’t think it’s about money, it’s about controlling access to your children. After divorce I was never allowed to see my kids again, I just got a new woman and had more kids.

       1. White women are so evil and manipulative.

          1. It is about money it is about stopping you having more children so her children get your money.

    2. I would never get myself fixed. Especially not for a woman.

14. All of these reasons should remind men that despite all the negative stereotypes about us, women are by far the colder and more methodical sex when it comes to relationships. I’ve seen women stare men straight in the eyes and lie like an assassin. I’ve PERSONALLY known women who intentionally quit their jobs and got the shittiest, most low-paying work they could find in order to ramp up their child support payments.
    My own ex planned our divorce for at least a year, probably more, before coming to me and telling me that she wanted it. It was like someone dropped a bomb in my life but since she had been planning it for so long she engaged in all kinds of vicious behavior since “it had been so long since we had REALLY been married.” What the fuck. They really do live in a fantasy land for 90% of their lives.
    Also I agree with the writer that no amount of logic or reasoning will penetrate their brain once they tell you they want a divorce. I remember telling her straight out, “You’re a 39 year-old mother of two…how many men do you honestly think you’ll find who want to be with you?” I could tell by the stupid, stubborn look on her face that I was the first person to put it so bluntly. Didn’t matter.

    1. … I’ve only been engaged, never married, didn’t make it that far. Thank God. Still a kid between us outta wedlock obviously. The only partial upside (or curse depending on how you look at it), is her family is loaded. When you said; “It was like someone dropped a bomb in my life.” Of course, it always is to every man unless he’s the one who files first. Think about what kinda piece of shit, schemes for months or years, while the guy is so busy providing and strategizing the entire family’s future(s) and long-term stability that he won’t have time to “see it coming” or pay close attention to the red flags, but gets off on abruptly destroying another person the best they can to propel themselves.
       I’m actually surprised you don’t see more brutal violent crimes due to this. Men, are clearly the more mature, tolerant, empathetic, and stupidly sympathetic gender by far… but mainly because the laws are clearly skewed heavily against him and in favor of women and the legislative wing of Gov’t. It’s all about paying public sector pensions and ruining yours.

    2. Only typed of men that wants an older woman that is either a total loser that will lay on the couch and live off her alimony and menace the kids (Leroy and/or Trayvon), a young guy that is like a rabbit, or the kind of types that inhabit the Baile at night and the Home Depot parking lot in the morning. The way the (((media))) has influenced the modern woman is truly stupefying

15. Remember: she sees you as the ENEMY to be destroyed.
    Why?
    Because in her eyes, she wasted her youth on YOU instead of her imaginary Alfa she thinks she should have deserved, that she birthed kids to YOU instead of her imaginary Alfa.
    She hates you for this BS, and she thinks you OWE her, and that you must pay for this, dearly.
    She is your enemy from the point on she decided on a divorce.
    Treat her as one as well.

    1. Great points. Exact words from split with the finace years ago; “I wasted my a big part of my 20s with you that I’ll never get back you asshole.” Likewise bitch.

16. I think that two of my friends are contemplating divorce. They act cold toward their husbands in public — no holding hands, no kisses, not even talking. They spend a lot of time with other single moms or recently divorced women. They lean far Left. Their Facebook posts are about the oppressive patriarchy, how men own women, how the system is designed to keep women poor, etc. When I look at their husbands, they seem like normal guys, in a good shape, still handsome, hard working. Then I look back at the wives and they are past their prime, they have no job, only dismal prospects. Yet they are willing to throw away their men, tomorrow, so they can be FREE. Free to starve, more like it… When I point this out them, they conclude I am far Right, which I am not. I just have common sense.

    1. “They spend a lot of time with other single moms or recently divorced women.”
       Yep. Divorced women are death influence on a marriage. I forbid my wife from consorting with any divorced women. They love to sow discontent in healthy marriages. Misery loves company. I’ve seen it happen.

    2. This is when the man should start slowly withdrawaling money out, burying it in a secret place in the ground, shuffling resources around sheltered the best possible, and plan his escape. I would not tolerate that in a marriage for more than about a month. I know women are gonna be women and have their bitch fests, but those are multiple serious red-flags.

17. Do married women who become financially successful through their own efforts – assuming they live frugally and hold on to their own money – also seek divorces where they try to grab their husbands’ wealth, even though they don’t need it?

    1. “married women who become financially successful through their own efforts”
       Do such women exist?

       1. Surprisingly they do exist… high class escorts:)

          1. I thought escorts were usually single?

       2. And of course, escorts are renting their vagina to men. Hardly successful from their own efforts.

18. Any man who gets married without a prenup is an idiot. Full stop.
    An added benefit of getting a prenup before marriage is it screens out the gold-diggers. If she has a problem with a prenup that is a huge red flag. Dump her immediately.

    1. Which country do you get ones that aren’t gold diggers?

       1. @William
          “old” and “gold diggers” should be your clue. Roll that around in your brain for awhile.

19. ” Isn’t it obvious – you get / got divorced because you have no religious backbone. Any bitch you take to Church every Sunday has more than you to answer for – if she has literally any spiritual or religious inclinations whatsoever than her guilt complex will be way to high for her to consider divorcing , let alone sleeping around. ”
    —- What planet are you living on? Women are USING CHURCH IMAGE as the God damned trap nowadays. Get a clue bro. There’s NO INCENTIVE for a women to suddenly find, or even maintain, a stable religious backbone. So, most, yes that’s right, most, as in 51% or more, are using church and churchy activities to virtue signal and obtain power over bewildered men. You think these western cunts give a FUCK about answering to God? In their minds, they ARE GOD. They’ll spend a lifetime creating this church-goer image, just to blatantly start lies out of nowhere, completely uncharateristic of them up to that point, to play LONG GAME and royally fuck their loyal husband and kids over… just because. Not, the McChurches with Rock-N-Roll Sunday worship services, with bands half as good as the best secular acts, get the tingles goin between these future cheater’s legs.. McChurches are the worst, Catholics second, Protestants next, then Jews and so-on. And don’t think the Westernized 2nd generation Muslims aren’t already testing the divorce waters, they are !

    1. Catholic church is about as far from McChurch as it gets man. I could sit here and spam all the differances but how about you just go to one and find out for yourself first. ‘McChurches’ are about as faggot an istitution as it gets. The WHOLE conversation passed you by my friend. I was referring to ‘DOGMATIC’ religious institutions; i.e. non-secular, non-subjective….there’s really only a few which fall under THAT category – jews and catholics and maybe some other very specific christina sects – BUT the whole point was that DOGMATIC religious institutions have lower divorce rates. WHY? – Because the nature of the relationship is based on a FIXED dogmatic UNSPOKEN truth which does not change and CANNOT be interpretated by individuals. In other words protestants, non-denominational christians, luthereans, FOLLOW and USE sola-scriptura – Sola-scriptura is HIGHLY subjective and based on personal interpretation – the girls who follow churches who use THAT are some of the biggest slut offenders around. And yeah man, your right, they ARE the biggest virtue signalers as welll – because they have no virtue.
       BUT, pretty much any dogmatic religion (islam, catholocism, I hate to say jews cuse they so fucked up and dont even follow their shit and are some of the worst) but generally speaking marriages based on dogmatic religious ideologys last longer – Girls who are RAISED under those religions have a higher guilt complex and do not cheat. THAT was the fuckin point. Way to just rage out though.

       1. you know, you might be right in everything you have said, but after the pages of comments for this thread, you are the opinionated soap box occupier that makes people walk away like people walk away from a constantly nagging female that keeps saying how wrong you are, over and over again until she gets drilled in the face with a punch that lands the dude in jail for domestic abuse. im thinking you wear a dress too. nag nag nag nag nag…oh my bleeding ears.

          1. ha – yeah probably – but some smuck whose actually looking for the answers and reading all this shit will find it and become ‘enlightened’ – so not a total loss – and yeah, I am right in most of what I say – ‘opinionated soap box occupier’, sigh, maybe if you had some thoughts of your own you’d do the same

          2. Bytheway you end up on every post* so in truth you type way more than me – I may ‘spam’ one article or two – but your fuckin everywhere – you sure your not the one whose wearing the dress? Speaking of being someones bitch you seem like a bot of Roosh’s to keep the boards alive, you are on every fuckin thread afterall.

          3. Not to mention I was DONE with this fuckin thread BUT Grock called me out so had to explain where he was wrong – if you don’t like it don’t fuckin read it man, but my comments are about quality shit as it gets on here – yeah yeah, it looks annoying, I don’t give a fuck what it looks like man – how about you go figure some of life out and then come back with some advice for people – your right in the sense that typcially long ass comments are fuckin annoying but it is what it is man. I might ‘spam’ a thread or two but thats about it if I feel what I’m sayin has merit, if I thought it was just mindless bullshit I wouldn’t bother. Regardless yeah, your point is heard and noted, I was bout done with this shit anyways.

          4. @john doe..smh, i am not on every discussion thread, and thanks for proving my points.

          5. Fuck yeah you are dude – are you fuckin kidding me? Every goddamn thread you post a comment – you didnt prove shit man – all youve proved is you have no original thoughts of your own – why else try to squelch? I don’t give a fuck how much I type, if you don’t like it, don’t fuckin read it. Just another Roosh parrot / bot / yesman.

          6. You = Roosh (aka bot) 😛 if not, than you need a fuckin life bro

          7. at john doe
             never mind. you are 100percent just like my 2nd ex wife…..dont know when to stop and keep repeating bullshit thinking your bs hurt feelings mean shit to anyone else…put a tampon in it
             .

          8. lawl – 2 ex-wives?? Ha – wow, well we know not to listen to your beta ass then now dont we – QQ (cry more man, cry more)* All I hear is you bitching and not providing anyone with advice on divorce…how about you provide us with some advice on divorce and marriage there – seeing as your the ‘expert’ with not one but TWO ex wives – laughing my fuckin ass off – quit while your ahead beta roosh bot

          9. I don’t think anyone knows what a ‘bot’ is so I’m going to explain. ‘Bot’ is short for ‘robot’; in other words Roosh and or really anyone with ‘HUGE’ websites uses ‘bots’ (fake accounts – not real people) to keep the message threads alive. This website is big enough to where it doesn’t ‘really’ need them, BUT it helps – and Neal here is most likely not a real person – he’s most likely Roosh with a fake account. I imagine some of these other ‘people’ are bots also. Long story short but ‘Roosh’ (his main profile) will occasionally make a comment or whatever, but he doesn’t have a conversation on here cuse he doesn’t want to get into debates with everyone – too many comments, not worth it, and not to mention it ruins his credability. So what does he do (along with pretty much every major ‘blog’ website with comment sections) he makes bots (fake profiles) to steer the comment threads in discussions he wants. Honestly he’d be an idiot to not do this. Another man-osphere ‘blog’ website that does this is the ‘Rational Male’ – dude has his yesmen and bots and fake accounts to keep his threads alive to appear they are ‘active’ disccusions. So ‘Neal’ (Roosh) there’s a good chance your acocunt isn’t real. And theres a good chance this comment gets deleted. So much for male ‘transparency’ and ‘free-speech’ RIGHT?

          10. at john doe, umm sure thing , dude. you right, got me pegged, im a bot, im Roosh’s bitch… lol
              whatever it takes for you to get through a day and seem relevant to the real world….ill go back to playing with my dogs now being i need intelligent entertainment value. take your blankies and crayons and back to your safespace.

          11. Oh I know you are – you act just like a bot – gotta make every excuse in the book to sound ‘real’ – “Gotta go play with MY dogs” / “MY 2 ex wives” -etc etc – ONLY bots give up EVERY ‘personal’ detail in order to sound real –
              lawl – shits hilarious – way to stay in character though – but even if your not a bot- you need a fuckin life man – posting on everygoddamn thread is pathetic

          12. @john doe.
              i went back and re read every post you made. you are definitely female definitely a SJW and definitely feminist trash. i take back that you might have been right…you werent. ya should have kept your smelly hatchet gash shut. now i understand why you targeted me. i gave the smartest advicefor men to protect themselves from you gold diggers by getying a seperate Corporate identity to conduct all his business through and keep it out of the family courts purview and shit testing ANY prospective mate at the get go with prenup suggestion to see the reaction. how does it feel you loser piece of trash. the most dangerous plane over the target draws the most concentrated flak. you outed your self with your endless nonsensical repeated spam.

          13. DO you always act like such a bitch? No wonder your divorced. Any guy coming back to a thread to dish out bullshit hate rheteroic like what your doing is beta – why – cuse it shows how you must act with women too. Instead of just brushing it off and knowing yourself you’ve come back for drama like a girl – embarrassing man – get a hold of yourself. And not that it really matters but what you stated is inaccurate. As far from a girl and SJW as they come. Guys forget that taking the redpill means destroying illusions – clearly you haven’t taken it but are just now getting a taste – you sure you wanna go down the rabbit hole? Cuse from what I’m sensing you might lose your shit completely. If you think I’m an SJW than your head is clearly not on right. Not to mention you clearly CARE if you reread all my shit and yet your still raging out kinda shows your not really certain with yourself. People that don’t give a fuck and understand themselves don’t give such a shit about someone else online. I’ve clearly gotten into your head it seems. Like I said, you sure you wanna take the redpill?

    2. hmmm…made a reply – looks like it got deleted…da fuck?

20. Women get encouraged by all manor of stupidities. Build up some delusional fantasy. Act retarded to their only true support. Then if they pull the trigger…all they get are some you go girl social network posts. They cry how vile their husband was FOREVER. When find out ex husband is dating / in relationship, they go nuts with jealous insecure thoughts…that usually manifest as hundreds of ” is she more attractive then me / where did you meet this girl / she isn’t better then me ” texts. You show those texts to girl currently fucking and have a big laugh.
    Really…my ex thought slandering me as only liking cloths / money / sex was REALLY gonna damage my future. Even after I encouraged her to tell EVERYONE that’s what I’m all about. Please please PLEASE scream that from the mountain tops. She kept doing it. Perfect.
    The only thing that sucks, is my Son. Don’t get to be the dad wanted to be. Oh well, my Son is a forthright clone…I trust he will be just as vile as I with time.
    Anyhow, anyone here want to date my pushing 40 fist fucked ex with asshole clone kid instructed not to listen to anyone but me? That’s what I thought. Smart girl that one.

21. As a man what you should do before getting married:
    1. Get a pre-nup and protect your pre-marital assets to the extent of the law. Engage a lawyer who practices in the area and when interviewing them ask if an appellate court has ever upheld their pre-nup. If not find another guy.
    2. Keep cash reserves. That is $20 or $40 bucks out of the ATM every few days that seems innocent and untraceable. Put it in a safe deposit box.
    3. Don’t tell your wife about any bonus or profit sharing (tell her it was overtime). Ask payroll if you can get it issued in the form of a check then cash that at the bank from which it was issued. Yeah it will still show up on your tax papers but you give the forensic accountant one more layer to go through to figure out why it is not in your joint account. Most are not paid enough to dig that far.
    4. Have one car in her name only and one car (the better one) in your name only. Doesn’t mean that it is not subject to equitable distribution come divorce. Just makes it cleaner when the lawyers are sorting things out. Plus she can’t take a line of credit off your car without your knowledge.
    5. Don’t name her as a beneficiary to your retirement (ERISA makes that almost impossible to change when you do) or any life insurance. Name a third party you can trust such a detached family member or a lawyer. If you have kids place the money in a trust equally split. Don’t let them touch it until age 29 unless it is to pay just college tuition.
    6. If your wife ever accuses you of hitting or assaulting her leave immediately. Accusation = Guilty. At least these days. Only come back when she has taken action to do whatever it takes to rescind police reports or any restraint order actions. Yeah it sucks for men but living in a shitty motel is better then jail.
    7. If you have a 50/50 custody agreement make sure your lawyer presses the judge to make sure child support is representative of this agreement. A man shouldn’t have to pay more just because he is a man. If you have the kids for half the time and she does, absent huge income disparities (that is why you make sure your wife works), there should be no real child support issues.
    8. If you have any doubt it is your kid DO NOT SIGN THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE. Demand a DNA test which these days takes about 2-4 business days to process. If it isn’t your kid then walk and don’t look back. Don’t assume even the smallest fatherly role like letting her live in your house. She is nothing but a lying whore and must deal with that situation. Eventually when things break up a judge will call you the “father” and make you pay 35% of your paycheck to her in child support.
    9. Keep your guns and family valuables locked up in a remote location (unless you need them for legit home defense). The second you get accused of “domestic violence” the cops will carry these away. To get them back will cost you more in lawyer fees then what they are worth.
    10. Don’t leave your domicile during a divorce. Most guys assume it their “duty” to leave That is BS. You have as much as s right to stay until a final decree is entered as she does. If you do leave or if she forces you out the maintain a log of events She is probably liable for half of your living costs before the final decree is entered. Don’t bring over new GF and if she beings over her new BF take note of it (especially if you have kids in the same residence) You might have to sleep on the couch or the guest room, but until a judge says “this is her property” or “sell it off and pay whatever party wants to keep it” then you can legally reside there and should.

    1. Most of your list has to do with things that happen after marriage. FYI, ATM withdrawals create electronic records that can be unearthed during the discovery process. Ditto for when they ask about additional income like profit sharing, etc., which they will during the interrogatory. If it’s gone that far, don’t perjure yourself or you lose all credibility with the judge and it just gets worse.

22. I don’t believe the argument that I wasted my 20s or half my life on you is not a valid argument because apparently the 20s or the part of life that you spent together most of that time she enjoyed with you.

23. Don’t marry, date or bang american women.

    1. Mate with the exception of slavic women who are a different race in many regards do not touch white women period. Pretending that white women in Australia or South Africa or some other place are totally different as pretending that black people in some other country are totally different.
       They are the issue and as has been posted on here many times before the data is that white men do far better with nonwhite women than white women in terms of divorce rates, and that white women and nonwhite men is just a car crash.

    2. Don’t marry, date or band White European women.

    3. more for me*

24. Lulz I stayed in the house. Had all paperwork ( down to her birth certificate haha ). Cash savings always off the books. Metals, ect. That’s what made her monkey games so amusing. Whatever advantage filing first or planing would have, she did not. Stupid bitch. The greatest was when she thought was getting under my skin having a friend I did not like remove items from the house with them supervised by a third party. This was arranged through our lawyers ( not the friend, she tossed that in…and I played being upset ). Had to bite my tongue, yet the reality was simple…the friend entering the house rendered any future claims of contents moot. Ask your friend where your jewelry box is 🙂 Even better, the day she went to the house…she got served papers for medical debts. Freaking golden, beautiful timing…cops waiting for her and I didn’t even arrange it. I’m sure she got some Facebook sympathy that night. Really fantastic thing was when told her ” you’ve watched me operate for a decade, I’m disappointed you failed to learn anything; I expected more.” Beyond my Son, the entire ordeal was comedy…so much so her lawyer was laughing with mine at how delusional the requests she was putting up with. Hell, it was almost fun…put me in a position where I can cost you 600$ an hour by just saying no. Haha send me the agreement and I’ll just mad libs amend that fucker and throw it back. Just sign the papers, it would be a shame to waste money on legalities when you have none…let’s not put our fate in a judges hands…….only if you do discovery and public record is gonna be great.

25. I really do not like this theory of ‘shit-test’ that has been assigned to women as some sort of evolutionary quotient that magically propels men into greatness, thereby ennobling women as cosigners of male innovation. It just seems like a coping mechanism conceptualized by recovering simps to simplify the vapidness of female selection. I’m not saying there isn’t a smidgen of truth to it, but I just don’t see women as this Darwinian arbiter when throughout all of human history, until just the last few decades in the West, they were simply tribal/familial collateral gifted to loyal men as favors by stern fathers, peace accords to enemy nations by warring chieftains, or as mergers by dueling monarchies or businesses. The wife was never this pivotal figure ‘balancing’ anything – she was neatly compartmentalized into a man’s life like anybody else (tanner, bartender, talisman, cobbler) as the homemaker and birth factory, not his copilot.

    1. It’s a solid theory, and the basis for it is not vapid at all.
       Shit tests are her way of ensuring you’re not going to fold under pressure – she doesn’t even realize she’s doing them half the time. It’s similar to the way a female bird will pick at the nest her mate made to ensure it’s suitable. Even in days past, you still had to be a solid guy with resources to support her and any potential offspring she might produce. With resource concerns removed thanks to big daddy government and cultural enablement leading the feminist march off the cliff of careerism, she no longer values her fertility. But even if she doesn’t care about her fertility, she still shit tests.
       Her doing the things in #5 while planning a divorce isn’t the usual shit testing though – it’s flat out treachery.

       1. Like I said, I think the rationale is mostly a social construct coping-mechanism because so many of a woman’s ‘shit-tests’ seem to not only go awry, but self-destruct on cue and consume everything else in its vicinity like secondary explosions in a factory during a wildfire or airstrike.
          Thy don’t build a stable life or family. They create a house of cards and douse it with gasoline, regularly flickering a lighter inside of it for ‘fun’ when it appears too secure.
          I really think the manosphere has put too much thought into the animalistic behavior of women, implying it is some precocious, positivistic pacesetter, when women do nothing of the sort – they derail.
          They don’t plan families – they fuck spindly drug dealers and get pregnant without demanding child support depending on his ‘cool’ status. They don’t select the bodybuilder or CEO. Those guys have to possess secondary traits.
          They brag about butchering their unborn and partially-born children, and abandon them on doorsteps because it is the law…and would continue it in the ‘back-ally’ even if it were illegal. They aren’t these loving creatures.
          I think women’s behavior is closer to the hyper energy of a small dog that burns itself out eventually in age (quickly falling apart like Mr. Potato head) rather than some cosmic calibration that we men should all humor with ‘game.’

    2. @Weimar
       *** APPLAUSE ***
       Excellent observation and what you said is absolute truth!

26. My husband has been reading you for years and thanks soo soooooo much for that. He’s taken numerous tips on how to treat me and even cheated and told me about it. I’m trying to let that go, cause love is blind. He’s been soo wonderfully paranoid for years without discussing it, he just assumes I’m up to no good and behaves accordingly. It’s soo wonderful as someone who had her heart ripped apart the day he admitted his indiscretion. I blame you. Not only do you prepare young men for real life possibilities, of which I do not fault you for, you unwittingly make married men endlessly paranoid and morph into idiots who practically cause their own problems. Yes yes, I forgot AWALT, it’s surely our fault, when some men actually have wives who who would die for them. Keep up the good work! You’re supposed to help men, not fuck them up, amirite?

    1. Haha payback is a bitch isn’t it? For to long you bitches went along with feminism and gynocentrism and you are FINALLY gonna start seeing some recourse. I am so happy for your husband. I can tell by your condescending cunt attitude that you prompted it with such browbeating and nagging. Marriage sounds horrendous. You can leave him right now, take his kids, his friends and dignity, make him an indentured servant for life depending on where you live, take his house, car and half of his 401k in addition to the monthly tribute until he is living out of a box and shuttling in and out of jail, until finally succumbing to an overdose or suicide. You poor, poor thing.

       1. Gynocentrism Theory ( https://gynocentrism.com/2014/05/25/gynocentrism-theory-2/ ) is quite horribly fascinating, including how the Feminist Imperitive corrupted Chivalry with Courtly Love, now called “Romantic Love”.
          The Romantics were aristocratic, bohemian, artists and literati, but still like rebellious, spoilt, proto-hippies, so not a good model for civilised behaviour.
          That this Mary religious cult originated/corrupted, slavish, “Romantic Love” is still practised by men, is shameful, including: men kneeing to women to apologise or propose marriage, placing women on a pedestal, saying they are the fairer sex, “what boys and girls are made of” misandry etc.!

          1. I’ve been thinking the same thing for about the last year now. I watch tons of movies from the 1930s and 40s, but not a single time did any marriage proposal take place on a knee. There was not even a big wedding. It was just a simple elopement. I think this chivalry thing never existed at all in the way we think during Arthurian times, but definitely exists in our time. I still have not figured out when it started. Maybe after the ‘second wave’ when Pareto first emerged?

    2. Who are you talking to, cunty? Roosh didn’t write this piece. Now get back in the kitchen and pretend to know how to cook.

27. 1. If you have money and she has a vagina then she’s already planning the divorce.

28. John Doe regarding catholic women you are way off base.Guilt didn’t stop my overtly religious wife from leaving our marriage.The Catholic religion provides all sorts of outs for it’s female members and then here in Australia our no fault divorce system just rubber stamps whatever a woman tells it.

    1. John Doe is just a feminist troll on this thread. pay her no mind.

29. Interesting article and one to keep in mind. Thanks for sharing.

30. He forgot to say “ If you get 3 out of 6 time to celebrate! “

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