Peace and grace to you all from the Lord Jesus Christ. I hope that, in these trying times, you are able to find some semblance of optimism and joy.
This past week was particularly difficult for those of us in the United States who hold the First Amendment in high esteem, and it can be very difficult to maintain hope when it seems like our nation is crashing down around us. And yet, the spring of living water does not ever stop flowing, and in Him we may find the security for which we seek and strive.
As most of the audience is probably aware, part of the New World Order’s plan for global government also calls for global religion. This one-world religion, with its foundation in such books as Alice Bailey’s Externalization Of The Hierarchy, can sound appealing at first glance. After all, the idea of everyone living together in harmony—worshiping God and treating our neighbors well regardless of our upbringing—is certainly a pleasant thought to entertain.
However, there is more going on than meets the eye, and in today’s article, I’d like to address the topic of spiritual warfare and expose a bit of the enemy’s playbook. It is important (and often difficult) to remember that in our dealing with political enemies, we are not actually competing against human beings.
Paul writes in Ephesians 6:12, “For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.”
This is the only war that matters.
It’s as true today as it was 2,000 years ago that spirits use human beings as vessels by which to carry out their will. In the case of the demonic spirits which animate the enemies of God and truth, there is a relatively small number of ways by which they can enter a human being and subvert that human’s will in order to carry out their own agenda.
I’m only going to discuss one of those ways today, but first I must define what the enemy’s agenda actually is. Keeping in mind that all demonic spirits are simply minions of the enemy, their goal is to manifest Hell on Earth. They desire power and control, and they feed on chaos and pain. The more chaos and pain they can cause in human affairs, the stronger they become and the worse things get for us in the physical realm.
The one and only thing in their way of complete dominion of the physical realm is the group of human beings who are “spiritually sealed” against their influence by the blood of Christ. This being the case, demonic spirits know that their best chance for becoming manifest on Earth is to draw the minds and hearts of human beings away from Jesus Christ. With that accomplished, it is a very easy task for them to subtly take control.
Therefore, they disguise themselves in a number of ways in order to achieve this end. They do not simply show up as demons and tell you to let them in, as this would “give away the game.” Instead, they promise equality, liberty, fraternity and other lies which sound inspiring but lead to destruction. As Paul writes in 2 Corinthians 11:14, “Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.”
Like this, and probably carrying a rainbow flag for good measure.
In a sense, the enemy tells the same lie today as he did in the beginning: “I’m here to make you powerful and free!” He told Eve she would “become like God,” and that’s not so different from some of his many forms even today. Remember that these spirits have been around far longer than human beings. As such, they know all of our weaknesses and temptations both as a species and individually.
Therefore, you may be sure that Satan will take the form most personally appealing to you when he’s trying to pull you away from Christ. For many people in the modern world, they want to believe in “diversity, inclusivity, and tolerance.” One of his favorite tricks in today’s culture is trying to put all religions on “equal footing.” People inspired by the enemy’s minions will tell you “it’s all the same,” “it all leads to the same place,” or perhaps the classic “one Light, many paths.”
I was deceived by this for a long time myself, so I know quite well how seductive these ideas can sound. But in the end, they are lies. The people spreading them don’t consciously realize they’re lying—and very likely believe they are on the right side of history—but that’s because their minds have been twisted and tricked by the spirits possessing and using them.
If demons can get people to believe that all religions lead to the same place, all it does is weaken belief in Christ as the only means by which to be sealed against them. It’s not a complicated trick, it’s just a very subtle one. As to whether there’s any truth to the “equality” of all these different belief systems, Christ Himself already answered that question. He tells us in John 14:6, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” All who have been Born-Again know the absolute truth and power of this statement. Those not sealed against demonic influence are easy targets, and it is against these easy targets that we are currently fighting.
If you want to win this war, realize it will not be won on the ground. As you have seen this week, the enemy has all the money and temporal power. Instead, realize that the spirits animating our political enemies are powerless against the blood of Christ and His spiritual soldiers. By believing in the Gospel and sealing yourself against demonic influence, you become one less puppet of the enemy and one more point of power by which the angels may operate. Remember that the Enemy does not need worship to win; he only needs you not to worship God.
Outside of the New Testament, my highest book recommendation for making yourself into a soldier of God is the Jack Sparks translation of Victory In The Unseen Warfare. It is simple, straightforward, powerful and transformative.
The more people across Planet Earth are sealed by the blood of Christ, the fewer portals wicked spirits can use to enter our realm. That is why the Enemy’s single greatest fear is a united global Christian Church, by which I mean no more than a united body of believers in Jesus Christ.
So to wrap up today’s essay, allow me to answer the original question of “What’s so bad about a global religion?” The answer is “nothing.” So long as it’s the one that Jesus Christ preached.
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“The Christian ideal has not been tried and found wanting. It has been found difficult; and left untried.”
-GK Chesterton
And our enemy, the Marxist impulse, has been tried and proven to fail many times.
The “Marxist impulse” has attached itself to American religion like a parasite. You’d find me in church much more frequently if I didn’t have to sit thorough the half-stupid social justice virtue signaling that comprises the contemporary sermon– let alone the SJW inspired initiatives that have redirected community responsiveness, charity, and social contributions.
Any FSSP or ICKSP parishes around?
Google “Unitarian Universalism” if you want to see something jaw-droppingly degenerate.
Eastern Orthodox Christianity is what you need to try then. It eschews all of that idiocy and is extremely traditional and unwilling to bow to such degeneracy.
Rock98i
They should just name their church, “Whatever”
So let’s try, again and again, to adhere to a book decided upon in Nikea in the year 325 as th eonly truth.
So let’s try, again and again, to stop questioning why these particular chapters were to be included , and not others.
So let’s try, again and again, to accept the revengeful Yahve of the old testament as our God.
So let’s try, again and again, to understand why all of us should know more about the history of an obscure group in the middle east instead our own.
And the list could go on and on….
Somebody once said something about doing the same thing again and again and expect different results…..
“So let’s try, again and again, to accept the revengeful Yahve of the old testament as our God.”
Honest question, can you see how someone could perform some horrible deeds invoking this? Like the ones ISIS performs everyday?
Literally all the people who follow the Bible have become the most successful and happiest civilizations on the planet, what results are you in contention with?
Why doesn’t God just nuke Satan and get it over with?
Why doesn’t Trump just nuke Un and get it over with?
What a dumb comparison. Satan cannot possibly hurt God. Jesus prepared Satan’s arrest warrant on the Cross 2,000 years ago, so why doesn’t he carry it out?
Personal thoughts, just my two cents…
God wants as men of his creation to come to Him. Judgement ends the drama, and will come eventually, but every day from that to this gives men another chance to come to Him.
Beyond that, God sees far more than we do and loves us. So even it doesn’t “make sense” to us at the time it is for our benefit. Like a small child undergoing life saving surgery, he may believe himself to be the victim of a terrible injustice but it is for his good.
Only problem is that your analogy is something humans had to come up with after the fact. It’s not in the bible and God has never given us the knowledge to convince ourselves of the veracity of the teachings.
Imagine getting a pet hamster and allowing him free roam in your apartment. You will leave poisonous liquids and electric cables unattended and available for his consumption. One day you find him dead of poisoning or electrocution. You reason that it was not your fault but he chose to chew on those things out of his own choice. From an animal welfare standpoint, however, you would be guilty of neglect or downright abuse.
Hamsters may noe be nearly as smart as humans, but God is infinitely wiser than humans and that gap must be greater than the gap between hamsters and humans or childs and adults for that matter. God created us the same way we cause pets and children to come into existence by selective breeding and we’re supposed to see to it that our creations do not hurt themselves out of ignorance. Since God is omnipotent and therefore cannot really be bothered by simply pre-installing our minds with his teachings and wisdom, taking care of us should not even register as a deal in his mind.
Throughout human history we’ve also engaged in unhealthy practices and God knows (no pun intended) what kind of harmful habits and cancerous substances we are involved with right now in 2017 but our science is still too primitive to perceive it. If you could bring a guy from the 19th century all the way here through time travel, would you allow him to smoke three packs a day or play with X-ray machines like they used to do for fun in the early 20th century? This is another instance where God knows the past, present and future and has knowledge he will never disclose to us.
Isn’t it funny how people jump left and right to justify what their God have done and been doing?
Maybe, just maybe, he made things…Well,just because.
Trump is a human. God is not. God has got nothing to lose if he decides to terminate some stuff.
He’sa cookin’ a somethin’ up.
Someday I’ll have to ask that, but I’d say now because we have the freedom to refuse his salvation.
It is a battle between cosmic and acosmic/chaotic forces: the creator god and god of life on one hand, and the destructive force(s) on the other. It is not just about the life on earth but in the entire universe. For atheists one can think of this symbolically: What are the dark mass and black holes if not acosmic processes? What are not murderers, serial killers and terrorists if not representations of chaotic forces that have influenced the minds of for instance Nazis, Communists, and Islamic terrorists? Plato understood this better than many others, although his knowledge was far from complete, a mere human being as he was.
Because God gave His children the priceless gift of free will – He wants you to come to Him by your own clear conscious choice, not by force. He is not a tyrant.
“He wants you to come to Him by your own clear conscious choice, not by force.”
Well, too bad. What he wants cause other humans to suffer.
I’m sorry you feel that way but the suffering we now are forced to edure is not the Lord’s fault, it’s Eve and Adam’s fault: BOTH broke the sole law He required them to abide by, thus creating sin, and were cast out of the Garden of Eden into an alternate, imperfect and sinful world as a consequence. It is because of THEM and THEIR CHOICES we all suffer.
But “He” had full power and control to stop them ruin stuff! If I had kids and they fuck up, I’d make sure that at least their mistake would not harm the innocence! I would stop my kids if they ever try break other kids’ legs just because they can.
What kind of easily offended deity that “punish” children for the mistake their parents have made?
“What’s that? Eve ate the apple? I’m so furious! I’m gonna make a whole continent suffer with starvation then. Because why not?”
It begs the question, “why allow the apple tree in the first place?”
“Well he told them not to eat from it, and he’s god.”
Christians often describe themselves as children of god. If there are kids in my house I do everything reasonably possible to prevent them from hurting themselves, much less cause them and their descendants ENDLESS suffering.
So why the apple tree?
Fuck the apple tree.
Why should kids be responsible of their parents’ silly mistake?
Adam + Eve :”I’m gunna eat this apple. LOL”
God : “Man, I’m so angry because of this. This in particular.”
Humankind: “And now we live on Earth. Thank you very much.”
So you’d rather if God made you a slave?
That’s the only choice I have? Accept it as it is or else I’m a slave? It is not about me, mate. If he wants humans to come to him by their own clear conscious choice, then nuke Satan would help a lot. I’d thank him for that.
Yet, if you don’t make that choice, you face eternal punishment. We have free choice, but if we don’t make the right one he’s going to threaten us until we do.
Whether or not you are a believer, why should he? He created Satan for his own purposes. He allows his continued existence because it suits him. Just because Satan makes us feel icky does not mean that God should have to change his plans to suit us.
God likes adventure, is my guess. Shy do we have cliffs, deserts, spiders, and bears? The bible says the creation confesses. I think maybe people project what they think God is instead of seeing what he liked enough to put here. Don’t worry about the devil, who’s here to weed out the weak. “Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.” Simple as that. My friend prayed when a spirit came in his room, and it went away. The devil ain’t heavy. Shake him.
What’s the deal with Lucifer being the Angel Of Music?
Supposed to be some guilt-trip for boogieing and gettin’ down?
I think it’s more a case of “even the greatest can fall.” Lucifer is said to have sat at God’s feet and played music for him, and his name means “bringer of light.” How much closer to God can you be?
Yet Lucifer fell.
I think it comes from linking him to Apollyon (Apollo) whom was also the god of music, some sort of god of light and took over the chariot of the sun from Helios as well.
It was written of in Isaiah IIRC, which would predate the Greek empire by a few hundred years or so. It could be linked to some Middle Eastern religion’s moon deities, but who can say?
He’s even named Apollyon in revelations.
Because neither one really exists.
We already have a world religion called Money. The goal is to die with as much of it as you can.
There’s nothing inherently wrong with money, but that seems like a pretty pointless goal.
said in jest, i think thats how Steve is aiming that comment, how us westerners are brainwashed to think that if you dont have $1Million in your bank account you might as well die a pauper with nothing, so we adopt the ‘live to work’ not ‘work to live’ outlook on life (sadly) and will chase a dollar until game over.
Ha ha give me $2-3,000,000 and I’ll let you know.
Start identifying as a millionaire and collect those gov’t funded checks
Living to please someone else by following fairy tales seems pretty pointless to.
Ephesians 6:10-20
Right on. Ultimately Jesus Christ will be the final judge for all persons. I find comfort in that.
I suspect we’ve entered into something like a new Axial Age, where the anthropomorphic religions like Christianity and Islam will go into decline in the long run. The emerging forms of spirituality will emphasize disciplining the conscious experience and resemble Buddhism. If these new religions also incorporate applied neuroscience, then we get into science fiction territory.
Few grasp that the first sinful impulse was not simply to eat of the fruit, but to usurp power. Eve was not tempted by a pleasing fruit so much as the offer to “be like God” – to usurp authority not only over her husband but over all of creation.
This is the root behind all forms of paganism. They desire that their rituals and dances and concoctions and chants should bend reality to their wills, thus taking for themselves the power of God. Similar desires are found in many religions.
A key difference I find in Christian teachings is that we are told we are pathetic. We are dead in our transgressions and sins, and we need God to save us. Not only can we not be gods, but we cannot even attain the status of good men without God.
Exactly… we are dead because of sin which is my Jesus had to pay the price for our sin.
I do not dispute what you’re saying. However I would argue that similar hierarchies exist within christianity as well. While the bible may well teach us that we’re not all that, the people who study the bible and get into christianity can and occasionally do use it as a justification for their superiority over other humans; depicting themselves as wise messengers and like a transitional form in evolution between divinity and lowly godlesness. Just like a hospital or a company the church has hierarchies too and egos will not take kindly to being rubbed the wrong way. A person with an advanced degree in theology may flaunt his authority like a primate in the jungle. I’ve heard and seen enough accounts of this.This hardly means that christianity is wrong but for all I know in the human realm we live in a lot of christianity has its own ‘game’ in it where guys try to outdo each other in their environment of choice instead of being humble or studying the bible for its own sake instead of getting degrees, power and the cushy jobs with super high and early pensions at the highest level. Still it must be said that for guys with some brains, a calm demeanour and a knack for talking becoming a priest (or related congregation worker) is not the worst paying and definitely not the most back breaking vocation to get into. You’ll just have to watch your public image a bit more than most, as a certain kind of chastity and reservation is still expected of these people, whereas congregation workers who are less than priests in their status can spout some ridiculous liberal politics and passive-aggressive nonsense more.
To illustrate a bit better what I was talking about in the lateral part of the paragraph; my dad had an antique store. One day the highest ranking clergy member within a 100 mile radius came to check his store. He was a bishop. The bishop caught a climpse of some, presumably middle-aged guy with a hot a ukrainian or russian wife. Apparently it really got under his skin because he said to my father that “the allure of the pussy is mighty indeed” as the couple had left. It sounds even more obscene in my language and that’s the best translation I could come up with. I don’t know why this person would make such a comment unless he’s jealous and perhaps unable to attain a certain thing (such as a stunning wife) and I believe that some guys gravitate to the vocation for this reason; they are wimpy types who like to patronize others from an ivory tower using their government-congregation issued papers as their veil.
Sounds like the bishop was a normal man, acknowledging the power of the temptations of the flesh, and stopping himself from acting on those temptations.
Perhaps so but the way he expressed it was pretty juvenile. You’ve probably noticed that when people see something that makes them insecure, be it a great physique, skill, charisma or what not,they go into a defensive mode where they try to bring the person down or/and deal with the insecurity by way of ridicule. Reducing another man’s happy relationship with a beautiful woman to genital related comments is just that; vulgar at best, petty at its worst.
It’s a disturbingly common thing for men to seek out positions of authority not because they are good, but because they know they are not good. Some assume that power over others will overshadow their inability to control themselves. Others seek such positions solely to manipulate others toward their own wills, as with many Pop-Churchian speakers and authors.
Paul laid out the requirements every bishop and deacon should satisfy in 1 Timothy 3. Few I have met in those roles meet the criteria.
Totally true. The one guy I knew whom was considering joining the clergy was a good looking and even pretty athletic guy, that for some reason still sucked with women. He just never new what to say around them. That’s my one experience knowing a younger man before he joined (he actually didn’t, as he found a girlfriend and he’s Catholic), but looking at many of the older priests, they mostly come off as guys that never had much female interest.
Did that man divorce a former wife to get the new trophy wife? Perhaps there is more to the story than you are letting on here.
The staff at a US christian church is sort of at the disposal of the congregation. In the bible, they called ‘flaunters’ Pharisees, and the scripture warns against pride. Exceptionalism says is some are bad, they all are, but that’s like passing up on mashed potatoes because there was a speck in the bowl.
“Knowledge of Good and Evil” has in Hebrew the connotation of deciding what’s right and what’s wrong. The original sin was deciding we knew better than God.
I live in a highly nonreligious state and I still have to deal with jokers like the author. Give it a rest and keep your god to yourself.
I live in the West which is non religious so I can understand your sentiment. And I have personally never witnessed anything of the spirit world. Is it because I was raised a Christian or because I am not receptive of them? You decide. Some soldiers and Westerners that spent time in the third world seen weird things and can confirm the receptiveness in that part of the world. Every religion (not just Christianity) has ritual exorcism. So you either believe in this or not. Heck you even have to decide if you believe in the elite and secret societies. Some Westerners claim to have seen or experienced ghost. I have not. Anyways, paganism has roots along way back in human history. At the end of the day you have to decide if there is subtle message in anything the world tells you.
Can’t. We’ve got our orders as it were.
You can’t love the West and ignore Christianity. It’s so deeply embedded it’s just the way it is. It’s like living in Japan and complaining about all the Shintoists.
I bet you live in my state. I just told a friend of mine I’ve known for eight years, and when the conversation turned to belief, he hung up on me.
michael is an interesting guy. He’s been a luciferian, freemason and a cathar / christian.
Sounds like me might have a problem.
he has some curious beliefs, but he’s an intelligent guy who’s taking an interesting and original spiritual path by the looks of it. Not sure about the demons stuff though
I don’t know – I’ve seen some shit. Enough to know that demons are very much out there.
But mankind is inherently prone to wickedness, and I don’t think demons are necessary to bring out that evil. Could they be possessed? I think so, but they could also just be evil dudes.
Is he? I realized at 14 during confirmation that the whole thing was BS.
well as I say I try to keep an open mind. My feeling with regard to all of this is that it’s a kind of language that might not be that helpful in the 21st century: that’s to say, even if the nature of universe is what it is, and angels and demon do or do not exist, there might be better ways of talking about such things. Most of the time when we speak we are really revealing the nature of our own minds rather than anything external to it. The existence or non-existence of supernatural entities doesn’t necessarily have to come into it
it’s not all supernatural. Read Tolstoy’s Gospel in Brief. I don’t mean that it will necessarily persuade you of anything, but I would challenge you to demonstrate why it is BS.
This is true, indeed.
I think you will find that many if not most are open to the idea of the supernatural, even if they do not openly confess that truth. Many believe in ghosts, spirits, angels, or some other metaphysical entities. To these, speaking in terms of spirits is both necessary and good.
my mind is fully open to the strangeness of the world around us. I don’t like to over-commit though, and think it good policy to seek down to earth and less fantastical explanations if they are available
In the spirit of “all things to all people,” I am inclined to agree.
However, I will say that I cannot, after all I have witnessed, deny the presence of the supernatural. This is to say that I am aware of the existence of forces beyond our ability to measure and observe in naturalistic measures. It’s not the same “supernatural” as the Hollywood version (with all its flash and pomp), but a subtler manipulation.
I have witnessed strange some strange things, which after reflection, do not seem to me like some kind of artefact of the mind (biases, schemas etc). Still I hesitate to talk in terms of ‘the supernatural’. I think one danger with religion is what Bonhoffer called the god of the gaps. God’s domain just becomes whatever we cannot currently explain in terms of science, which since science always advances rather than retreats, is a gap that is always diminishing. I haven’t read much Jung but he seemed to have the right idea with respect to not trying to reduce everything to one thing or another. A lot of it is about words rather than things
The problem of the “God of the gaps” diminishes to a degree, at least for the believer, when you accept that natural phenomena and natural laws are creations of God. If science discovers a natural phenomenon that was previously attributed to divine intervention, it does not lessen God’s power but rather express the magnitude of his creation and our inability to grasp all its wonders.
I would say, as well, that science does not always advance, especially when institutionalized. Nutrition is a great example – we’ve been rediscovering ancient wisdom regarding which foods are beneficial and which are not, because the institutions of science glommed onto a (disproven and shoddily researched) set of ideas and rejected what their own data showed them.
yes, I think that’s why speaking in terms of science versus the supernatural where God / religion / spirituality fit somehow into the latter compartment is a rather impoverished way of looking at things, and ultimately a reductive one, a kind of trap if you’re inclined towards religion as opposed to ‘science’. As I think you indicate it is arguably a false dichotomy, a legacy of the enlightenment fissure between “reason” (materialism?) and “superstition”
I went through many belief systems and paradigms on the way to becoming Christian, and being Born-Again showed me the falsehood of everything else. If you think my story is crazy, check out Bill Schnoebelen. He was into the weird stuff to a far greater degree than I was, but likewise ended up saved and witnessing about his transformation.
I don’t think your story is crazy although it is certainly an unusual spiritual career path. My worry is that, though I consider you to be an intelligent guy, I suspect that those accepting some of the claims you make may only be able to do so by suspending their critical judgement somewhat, and in the process removing themselves from the very respectable discourse that we need to win the wider debate. In the wider culture believing in and alluding to Satan, demons etc in argument is an absolute certain way to have your argument dismissed and your identity associated with loons and tin-foil hat conspiracy theories. That is not my judgement on your or anyone’s specific belief systems but rather a comment on how we win or lose within the wider cultural discourse
Oh, btw Bill Schnoebelen sounds interesting. You’ve not been a vampire or had sex with a fallen angel? That’s pretty vanilla
BS, ok.
Young earth creationists believe that earth is about 6000 years old.
There are ancient civilizations who kept meticulous records that have been proven to much older that that.
Christians believe that Jesus was crucified by Pilate for the sins of the world, But Roman history shows that Jesus was crucified by Pilate for REBELLION AGAINST ROME.
Jesus ” prophesied ” that his kingdom would come in the lifetime of the disciples, but it failed, making him a false ” prophet “, and worthy of being stoned.
Jesus teaches in the bible to love, forgive, tolerate, give, and be humble, the church teaches to hate, judge, be prideful, destroy, and be a hypocrite.
The church itself is plenty of proof that whole thing is BS.
Well, did you read Tolstoy’s Gospel in Brief? One of its virtues is that sloughs off those kinds of questions at least for the most part. Creationism is neither here nor there from that point of view. The historical record is slight and inconclusive, and generally considered to be a non-starter for anything like corroboration of jesus’ biography, but again this would be considered irrelevant for the most part. The one thing which does matter IMO and I think in Tolstoy’s although he doesn’t address the matter is the hypocrisy between what Jesus teaches and what the church (and secular authorities claiming to represent the church) does. Which is to say that the Gospel in Brief is all about the (revelatory) ethical core of Christianity, and by implication how historical christianity may have failed in its incarnation of that core.
Seriously, stop reading the article half way through if you don’t want to read about his God. Maybe don’t read it at all. Now that you know what this author is about, simply skip his articles if you don’t like them. Don’t demand he not talk about his God. Are you some sort of anti-free speech advocate?
Research free speech and find out why your comment is silly.
I am a free speech advocate, that is why I stand up to bible thumping jerks like this author.
NON CHRISTIANS HAVE RIGHTS TO !!!
We are governed by the constitution, not the bible, god is not the government and the bible is not the law.
Church and state are separate, the christian taliban has it wrong.
We live in a constitutional republic, NOT A THEOCRACY.
THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT THE CHURCHES ENFORCEMENT ARM !!!!!!!!!!!
The other side needs to be told, and non christians have right to heard as well.
Someone has to stand up and oppose religious extremists like this author.
Jerks like this guy who insist on shoving his sect at others need to be stopped.
No.
“So to wrap up today’s essay, allow me to answer the original question of “What’s so bad about a global religion?” The answer is “nothing.” So long as it’s the one that Jesus Christ preached.”
Jesus never preached anything concerning a “global religion.” In fact, He stated that the path to righteousness is narrow and that there would be few who would find it. He preached that if anyone is a friend of the world, they are an enemy of God. In Matthew 24, He declared that the end times would be full of false prophets with many teaching in His name, the category I find with this author. Apparently he doesn’t understand the real purpose God confused the languages at Babel and scattered the nations, because the next time the world united to worship one “god,” would be under rule of the antichrist. He warned that Christians would be hated among all the nations. Any material that preaches a global religion or a world church, know that it doesn’t come from Jesus Christ!
Matthew 28:16-20
Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted. Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”
Jesus referred to Satan as “the ruler of this world” (John 12:31), and Paul calls him “the prince of the power of the air” (Ephesians 2:2) and “the god of this world” (2 Corinthians 4:4). John makes a further distinction when he says: “We know that we are of God, and the whole world is in the power of the evil one” (1 John 5:19). These references leave us with the question: In what sense does Satan “rule” the world?
The Bible frequently uses “the world” or “this world” to refer to the present evil system of opposition to God. So, the Bible never teaches that Satan actually rules over the entire world, but that he is ruler over the current system of sinful opposition to God. In other words, he’s leading the rebellion against God, where in the final 3.5 years of the antichrist reign, will be a global religion. That future world church is currently being setup in our time.
I agree with this entire comment, but the antichrist global religion the NWO is going for is not Christianity. If Christianity were the global religion, that would be the single best defense AGAINST the NWO. As long as we stay focused on physical warfare, the enemy will win every time.
Wild at Heart by John Eldridge refers to the “three enemies” as Satan (and his agents), our own flesh, and third, the World (or the way society can work as a sum of evils). I agree with both of you. Reach all nations for God, and world christianity. But if Christianity was to become militarized, enforced, in the modern sense, it would cease to be Christianity. It was always made to be a call to be answered, not unwillfully forced (though that doesn’t seem to be what Witcoff is saying anyway).
I don’t know who Eldridge is, but I suspect he got that “three enemies” thing from the Unseen Warfare book I mentioned in this article. The author of that book (originally called Spiritual Combat) lists those same three, and he wrote it sometime in the mid-16th century if memory serves.
And you are correct, I am not saying to militarize Christianity. Unlike in Islam, a forced conversion to Christianity means nothing to God. We must choose faith and salvation of our free will for it to matter.
Lets not forget what God did to the tower of Babel in Genesis, which was the OG New World Order.
That’s great Eldridge pulled from an older place. The best men do, because only a fool would ignore the wisdom of his fathers. You could do worse than Eldridge’s “Wild at Heart” if you want to bridge Jesus and neomasculinity. Root Christianity is extremely masculine and powerful. It’s another factor of why the church is always under attack. The right church gives what men need. Period. The Enemy doesn’t want that.
Excellent point, Sir.
A great argument for the church NOT getting into bed with the government to force religion onto those who do not want it.
After all, who does the bible tell you to put you trust in, god or the government ?
Sorry, not only are all the Jewish mythologies utterly ridiculous, but any fool with a 4th grade education could come up with a better moral system and philosophy than that utter nonsense.
Why would I want a moral system and philosophy created by a fool with a 4th grade education?
Because it would be far better than any of the Jewish mythologies.
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We will await your better moral system then Richard
Right, keep your ridiculous stone age religion with rules and regulations made for sheep not men.
Richard, can we read of your superior moral system and philosophy?
You can’t even define your Christian morality and philosophy so anything is better.
such as?
Cite me in the Bible your superior moral system.
I bet you can’t even define it yourself.
Your supposition is that you can create a better one, not that I can cite one.
Yet you don’t even know what yours is.
If you know your Bible and your religion so well, you’d be able to tell me off the top of your head.
It shouldn’t be such a chore for such a great Christian to educate a non-believer about his own belief system.
“Anyone can create a better moral system than the Christian one.”
“I don’t know what the Christian moral system is.”
And with that, I think we’re done here.
If you can’t even define your own moral system, because you don’t know your own religion, how can I create one that is superior?
It is mindboggling that the people who think they are the greatest Christians can’t even defend their own religion with their own texts and moral philosophy.
A very good question indeed! What exactly IS this Christian morality and philosophy that you are so confident that you can improve upon? I’ve claimed no affiliation.
If you don’t know the Christian moral system, how can you assert that you can create a better one?
I’m waiting for you to tell me.
How can I create a superior moral system to yours when you don’t know what yours is?
You great and wonderful Christians don’t even know the basic tenets of your own religion.
Your claim, may I remind you, “any fool with a 4th grade education could come up with a better moral system and philosophy…”
Please cite the system you could so easily surpass.
And, if it were so easy, why has it not been done?
I still believe it.
We can’t have a reasonable discussion when you have no clue what you even believe yourself.
I’m not going to argue with myself.
I have made no claims about my beliefs no matter how many “yours” you have used. You can either support your claim or not, that is all.
We are still waiting for you to give cause for argument. So far you have provided an assertion out of your own admitted total ignorance, without evidence.
That does not an argument make.
You may believe it, but can you prove it?
yawn
Most christians do not even read their own texts or know what they say.
Those that do, willfully ignore them.
The new testament moral system is excellent.
Love god, love your neighbor.
It is too bad that christians think they are too important to do this.
Mutual love and respect for everyone ?
I know you will assign this one to ” god “, and go ahead, but try “love thy neighbor as thyself.”
This one should be applied when christians decide to hate gays, athiests, and members of other religions.
Please show me how hate, pride and hypocrisy are ” family values “.
Before you respond, go back and read about the fruits of the spirit, and read about the fruits of the flesh.
Which one describes the church the best ?
Why wouldn’t God reveal Himself to a tribe that would be in the physical center of the known world with routes running all over Europe and Asia and Africa?
It’s interesting that at the same time he called Abram to go into the “land that [God] will show [him]”, he led Abram to what would be at the heart of much trade and many empires.
And within a century or so the Faith stretched from Britain to India.
“That is why the Enemy’s single greatest fear is a united global Christian Church, by which I mean no more than a united body of believers in Jesus Christ.”
Good luck with that. You can’t even get Christians to agree among themselves. There is Catholicism, Eastern Orthodox, and all the Protestant lines. Each picks chooses to leave some books of the Bible out of their official copies depending which ones you ask.
I don’t think it matters at all whether a true believer in Christ considers himself or herself Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Protestant or a member of any other denomination. The differences in lineage, ritual, and dogma don’t make any difference when it comes to the spiritual warfare which I am discussing in this article.
Which books of the Bible you prefer doesn’t matter either, for nowhere did Jesus say “No one comes to the Father except by one particular version of the canon, most of which won’t be formalized for the next 300 years.”
No.
He said “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No man comes to the Father except through me.”
It is Christ’s sacrifice and our belief in what it means that brings us salvation from God and protection from the Enemy.
But Christ founded ONE Church, and it is visible with a hierarchy. The idea of an invisible Church apart from the visible body of believers and bishops is Gnostic and Nestorian. Just as Jesus is God and man in hypostatic union, so is the Church the Body of Christ, which is visible in its hierarchy and membership. What is invisible is its divine established nature that we have faith in, because Jesus said so. I’m not articulating very well but think this over.
Ok, What church did Jesus found ? I cannot see the influence of Jesus in any church today.
The Catholic Church. The beliefs, teachings, and hierarchy of the Church in the first century and the Church today are identical, even if the leadership can be incompetent. (Which is proof of Christ’s promise to the Church of indefectibility, that no matter how bad things get, the Church will survive.)
Now we have Muslims who are pure aids in the world, but back in the days Christians were turning the world into a violent shithole. It’s a religious scam from the Middle East.
I have more knowledge about this stuff than regular people and I can assure you that there’s no such thing as a ‘Hell’. People have free will and you can do whatever you want. There is no judgment when you die. Yes, ‘God’ doesn’t like it that we turned Earth into a shithole, but we have free will, so ‘He’ doesn’t intervene. We have to fix it ourselves.
People have simply lost the knowledge of the purpose of life and started to invent new religions or corrupt existing religions for their own purpose.
Basically, every religion that tells you to live a certain way or otherwise you go to Hell is created or corrupted to control your life. What is the purpose of life? Simply follow your desires and you will feel you’re on the right path in life.
I am glad you brought this up.
Any God who threatens you with eternal damnation if you don’t subscribe to his death cult is not a morally defensible religion.
Your comment, to me, sounds like saying that if a father explains consequences for bad behavior to his child, then somehow what the father is doing is not “morally defensible.” Wouldn’t you say that it’s a good father’s moral duty to explain to his children the consequences of both good and bad behavior?
If we don’t believe in God and Jesus Christ as his son and personal savior, do we go to hell, yes or no?
If you don’t believe that, and think it’s all nonsense, then why does it trigger you so much to think about?
Why are you incapable of answering a simple question without a deflection?
Define “hell.”
Why can’t you answer a simple question?
I’ll even make it easier for you.
What are the consequences for me if I don’t believe in your religion?
What is the penalty in your own text for me not believing it?
I can smell another deflection coming.
If you don’t even understand your own religion, you shouldn’t be writing an article in its defense.
I’m not sure you understand the difference between “religion” and “relationship with Jesus,” but I’ll do my best to answer your troll-like inquisition anyway. Not because I think you will benefit from it, but on the chance that someone reading it might instead.
According to the Christian faith, the only people who attain eternal life are those who believe in Jesus Christ as the Son of God and their personal Lord and Savior.
Therefore, those who do not, do not wind up in Heaven with God. Now, as to where they DO end up, that’s been debated many times by many Christians over time.
Some might say they end up in a physical place full of physical fire. Others might say they get reincarnated into regular carnal life, which some people would describe as “hell.” Another may say they wind up as demons after death.
Who knows?
Whatever “hell” is in reality, I have no interest in going there or being a part of it.
Lots of interpretations from a text that was supposedly created by infallible God, making the text itself untrustworthy.
Funny how so many Christians have different interpretations of the same text everybody is reading.
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Yeah. The interpretations are called ‘hermeneutics.’ Frankly, I think it’s why God had men make it a book, so there is room for each man to come to God in his own understanding.
If you have such a coherent and defensible religious philosophy, why are there hundreds of different interpretations of it?
Basically, you have just said, everybody who reads the Bible can think and do whatever they want because of their feelings.
Now, that is really a defensible philosophy.
There are particular commands in the bible that are plain. God speaks to each man’s mind, and sends an advocate spirit to guide each man’s heart, so the ‘feelings’ verses are less common than you might believe. Some debate comes from translation, some from allegory, and some from dead facts, like what Gopherwood was. You’d find a ton of it is readable the first time, but speaks new truths on a later read.
He’s a virtue signalling christianophobe with such low self-esteem he has to resort to this to feel a little bit important.
Or you can try to defense your religion with logic and reason instead of womanly feelings?
That is just your opinion, not any independently verified truth.
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Consider the following:
If you do not believe in the concept of the government, does that prevent your national or local government from arresting, detaining, trying, and sentencing you?
Threatening with Hell is made up to control people. Back in the days they used religion as a political tool. Common people couldn’t read Aramaic or Latin, so nobody knew the content of the Bible. It was very easy to control people with religion.
I wouldn’t say Christianity is 100% fake, but it’s a highly corrupted religion, just like Islam. Of course there is some truth in those religions, but it’s mostly a religion that orders you to do this or do that, or otherwise you will burn in Hell. You are not allowed to ask questions or think for yourself.
If ‘God’ wanted you to be an obedient slave, then he wouldn’t give you a free will. Basically, shit started when the human population grew and people were fighting over control of land, resources and other people. This is when they started to use religions for their own benefits.
But like I said: ‘God’ doesn’t intervene, because we have free will. People created this mess and people have to fix it themselves.
Pretty sure it’s easier to control people by letting them live like animals and let them drug themselves up and fuck anything with a hole in it. You know, the very damnable things that create our slave society.
If I had a dollar for every time I’ve encountered somebody who mocks organised religion as “a way of controlling the gullible masses” while being in favour of Big Government…I wouldn’t need to work another day…
Yes, ” god ” is going to burn you in hell for eternity, because he loves you.
The bible talks about how ” god ” is better than an earthly father, but not earthly father punishes his children in a cruel, destructive way, and not for eternity.
I agree that legalism is the difference between corrupt religions and Christianity, but following your desires is a good way to go wrong. Following God’s desires is a better plan.
I bet you don’t even know what God’s desires are.
First, love God with all your heart, soul, and mind. Then love others as you love yourself.
Just flowery rhetoric. You don’t know anything. You are just making it up as you go along.
Most people don’t love themselves so it is bad advice.
The Jews said it first, then the Christians, and then the Muslims.
The same line has been repeated over and over again yet they all kill each other with impunity.
I love myself enough. Maybe too much, and much more than I love others too often. I didn’t make up the ‘rhetoric’ though. It’s from the Bible.
Like I said, made up.
You can’t philosophically defend your own religion outside its own text, making it a ridiculous philosophy.
You don’t even know who wrote the texts and edited the Bible.
Yet you believe it because of your feelings.
Feelings are how women argue, not men.
There were non-bible historians in the age of Jesus. Women assign emotions (not necessarily feelings) to memories and perceptions, which is why they can seem so emotionally charged. I’m with you about how much of an uphill battle women are. Have you been on ROK long? Chip finally snagged an avatar. You should, too, man. Makes you easier to find when the page gets long.
Oh just horseshit. You’ve got more feelings than any ten men on this board doing your arguing for you. You just shout “it’s all made up!’ That’s not an argument.
Make your case like a man first and then attack him for not making his, be just about this.
No. Insulting eachother isn’t ROK anymore, Hoyos. Take it down, so you don’t trip a censor. This is the kind of think Witcoff’s talking about, but we don’t kill our opponents, we talk to them. Saunders is just passionate. No offense to your admirable stand, of course.
Yet you can’t even defend your own religion with any evidence or logical defense.
Yet you can’t cite even one.
Sez who?
And you’re not giving me any evidence or logical defense either. So again, state a case, try to prove your position.
Fair enough, I guess.
Just to clarify do I need to take down my post? Or can I just edit it?
You are the one who needs to defend your own religion other than your womanly feelings of I believe because I feel it to be so.
Feelings are not facts.
steroid rage?
Feelings are not facts is a strawman. Unless you want to talk about Hubble.
Up to you. I’m not a mod, I just don’t want anyone to end up like “@Lolknee” again. If you ask “who?” That’s the point and I wish I was joking.
Tacitus. He’s a Google away and I always forget his name.
Tacitus on Jesus.
The spirit of Lolknee still walks these boards I imagine although I’ve not see him lately. Disqus believes in reincarnation
“Against these things there is no law.”
Thought you were a mod for some reason. Good looking out though. Had no idea the Kneeman was gone. What a shame.
Yeah, our commenting policy has necessitated a shift in tone. After about a week of this, it’s honestly not that bad to work with.
He’s around. ROK’s like that place in France. Only with Lolknee.
Then tell me why I have to and you don’t. A duel has to go both ways.
Lolknee has moved onto a better place.
Damn, I miss lolknee.
Very good, Sir, Now try getting christians to actually do this.
If christians would let go of their pride and hate, most of the worlds problems would go away.
ROK would be a much more peaceful and productive place.
Fully agreed. Christians are like us. Looking for answers. We all need to walk away from pride and judging eachother.
You’re kind of shitting me, you’ve got to be.
You may not believe it, but no back in the day Christians weren’t turning the world into a violent shuthole. It already was and there was some participation but it was the force that brought greater peace to more of the world than any other factor.
Christian empires were nearly all garden spots compared to other world empires. Ask yourself if you’d rather be governed by a British Anglican civil servant or, an Aztec, a Mongol, a Turk, a Japanese, etc. Christianity basically ended slavery as well, Wilberforces motives were recognized even by his enemies as rooted in Christianity.
Do as thou wilt? You are a Crowleyian?
Few ideas are as destructive as the Crowleyian doctrine of “do what thou wilt.” This is mostly fine when your will is aligned with conscience and sound reasoning, but when your will is corrupt it weakens the conscience and works evils in the world.
It’s a strange somewhat worrying philosophy. Given that he seems to have seen it as somehow aligning oneself / one’s will with the will of the universe (i.e. not left hand path) it’s not even that individualistic. He interests me though, as does thelemic philosophy generally
“Those not sealed against demonic influence are easy targets, and it is against these easy targets that we are currently fighting.”
Kind of sounds like you’re saying we’re supposed to fight unbelievers, but I think we’re supposed to help them, if Jesus’ example is to be followed. Great article, though, Witcoff. Glad to see a post from you.
Follow Jesus’ example and get crucified by the Romans for a crime he didn’t commit.
Great leader you have there.
Oh. You’re a hater. I thought you were debating, not like ‘red-poker’ insulting. Yeah, man. He’s actually a great example of tempered, balanced spirit with accountability and strength. He even had a trade.
And still crucified by the Romans for a crime he didn’t commit.
There’s a case for that, yeah. Kind of like us neomasculinists, getting punished by a society we did not help to form, by circumstance, happenstance. We even have opponents out there pointing hate at our words, actions, and heroes. …not to play the victim or adopt a God complex, or to be pretentious.
You sound like a chick.
Nothing is ever your fault.
Better to outsource all your personal responsibility to the invisible man, a 2000 year old death cult, and society.
Yeah, I hit edit. I’m really not looking to blame anyone. It’s like that song lyric: even if I blame myself, it all comes out the same. You should edit out your burn. I don’t want you to get banned.
Ban me, I couldn’t care less what you Christian social justice warriors do to me.
True believers are all the same, regardless of their cult.
The first thing they go for is censorship.
Your first order of business should be to redirect your axe-to-grind, against Islam instead of Christianity.
They are both Jewish mythologies.
If you care about the USA and the West (and the world for that matter), focus your vehement disapproval on the religion that perpetually incites worldwide bloodshed and turmoil.
I can focus my disapproval on any ridiculous religion.
Why waste time on benevolent religions when the bloodthirsty rape cult is metastasizing all over the world?
So go join the military and fight ISIS if you are so worried.
Think ol’ Uncle Sam is gonna show up in your defense on your last day, do you?
Everybody dies regardless of what the government does or doesn’t do.
Let me rephrase: If he went to kill for the US gov, do you think the US gov would testify to God that the murders were for a good reason?
Some men who won’t kill a Muslim, don’t think it’s right to kill.
I’m “worried” about people like you who rag on Christianity all day long, which is a waste of time, when your efforts could be redirected at the religion that’s liable to get the whole world into a giant clusterfuck.
You must be one of those moral Christians who always tell the truth because you accuse me of ragging on Christianity all day long, which is a shameless lie.
Islam is irrelevant to the article.
Go write one and we can discuss it then,
But by accepting crucifixion you already accept our beliefs.
Crucifixion was a form of punishment. Nothing extraordinary or miraculous about it.
The cross is typically a symbol of the subtext: Christ’s Reserection. Rich, are you gonna stick around on ROK and pick up some pill?
“you accuse me of ragging on Christianity all day long, which is a shameless lie.” – you just write the same old shit over and over.
Why ? they are the same thing and the same mentality.
Very good, Sir !
Do you mean the one that launched the crusades that we still suffer from to this day ? or the one that gave us the inquisition ? or the Salem witch trials ?
Or maybe the one gave us hundreds of years of war and death in Europe ?
Or how the one that gave us the black plague because they thought cats were from the devil and killed most of them, thus letting plague carrying rats spread a horrible disease ?
Maybe the one that protects priests who molest little boys ? or the one that condones preachers who lie, cheat, steal and defraud their followers ?
Try this one, a religion that makes a hero out of a county clerk who refuses to do the job she was hired to do, was paid to do, and agreed to do, because her religion taught her that she was above the law in direct violation of her own religion’s ” holy scriptures ”
Try this religion, the one that thinks constitutional rights are only for it’s members.
And this religion, who teaches the lie and delusion that there is no separation of church and state, even though the constitution, historical documents, history, law, and the court system say otherwise.
And my favorite, the religion that thinks three and one are the same, and thinks this kind of stupidity should be spread by governmental force.
If you care about the USA and the west, and the whole world for that matter, get rid of religion,
What do think christianity has done for 2000 years now ?
BS.
The crucifixion of Jesus is a historical fact, but Roman history shows he was crucified for rebellion, not to save the world.
Christians simply used this to embellish their stories.
…Starting with Islam because it’s a CURRENT problem far greater than Christianity, or are you going to keep whining about the past and ignoring the present?
And we attracted a christianophobe. I was wondering if one would arrive.
Not an argument. But not surprising from a member of the 2000 year old Jewish death cult.
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In that sentence, I was attempting to communicate that they are “easy targets” for demonic influence. They have no “guards at the gate” so to speak. I believe that by winning the spiritual war, the physical one will take care of itself. Thanks for the comment!
Physical world reflecting the unseen. I wholly agree.
I’d rather spend time with people who imitate Jesus rather than famous atheists
I would rather spend time with people who imitate Jesus than with christians.
I like it
So a CALIPHATE then….
No thanks. I’d rather be a dumbass who goes about his business.
I did enjoy reading this very interesting article, but I am somewhat inclined to think that it might lead in an unwise direction. Now, there may or may not be a spiritual war going on but personally from a purely pragmatic point of view I don’t think the nature of reality is what we should be deciding here. As Wittgenstein said – well to paraphase – with respect to what we cannot speak clearly, we should remain silent (last line of the tractatus I think). Love him or loathe him Wittgenstein made some good points about the kind of language and the kind of discourse that makes sense in today’s world, and his point was that metaphysics and metaphysical assertions are not always the best way to come across as coherent. Later on he did a bit of a volte face and spoke about how religion and religious language could make sense in terms of language games within say a shared community (the church, the synagogue, the masonic temple whatever) but even then you have to consider also the borders of such communities – if a particularly (metaphysical) language game makes sense within the confines of a religious community it will make rather less sense outside of it. And herein lies the problem. To speak of spiritual warfare, in a metaphysical sense (although that is necessarily the only sense available) and in particular to speak of demons and possession is to make a colossal error if one’s purpose is to persuade others outside so to speak ‘of the choir’.
In terms of evangelism (in its broadest possible sense) you are immediately going to ‘lose’ anyone for whom angels and demons, and that kind of language, makes no sense. That’s the first reason against adopting such language, but there is also a second, which in my opinion is even more serious: the moment you frame the battle against the NWO, or the secular powers, or the Man, or whoever you consider yourself up against as a battle between the forces of evil, between God and Satan you’re begun to partake of a particular language game that has already in advance been disqualified from the wider discourse, the wider conversation: if you think about how readily people on the left etc will call you a conspiracy theorist and effectively dismiss your opinion the moment you suggest that they might have fraternised behind the scenes for some particular purpose (say to introduce gay marriage, or to set the charlottesville trap) just think how much easier it will be dismiss your beliefs if you end up talking about a trans-historical supernatural battle between God and Satan. This has a name in fact. Daniel Pipes the anti-conspiracy theorist, calls it the ‘world conspiracy’, and in his eyes it has all the virtue of a psychotic mental illness. Not because it is religious but because it is a way of thinking where the subject has learned to assign everything important to a titanic battle between God and Satan, angels and demons etc etc.
Now you will notice I have not made any comment on whether God and Satan exist, or whether the metaphysical assertions of the article is true or false. My point is purely about language, society and rhetorical persuasion, and about how if you adopt this kind of language you are disqualifying yourself from the wider discourse, and can be safely locked away in a cultural asylum to rot harmlessly while others get on with the serious business of determining the direction of the culture.
So my point is about language and not religion. Now consider this. Demons do not have to be supernatural agents to possess you. It is ideas, ideologies, cultural memes etc that in the real world, or perhaps I should say in the tangible world that possess people. So it is possible to be possessed, certainly, and you might well froth at the mouth, and utter ungodly profanities, but the spiderwalking or whatever – we’ll leave that issue moot. For the real possession is about programming the human mind, and it is nearly always human beings who are responsible for that kind of “demonic” possession
The most popular form of the Wittgenstein Tractatus quote:
“Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent”
I also read that people respect a man who will try and say the right thing, risking the wrong thing, than to say nothing, and come off as pompous. Quite the opposite of Abe Lincoln’s famous (((false))) line.
sure, there is also a pride / safety issue involved. To fear making a fool of oneself, is I suppose to defer ‘the world’ and the tyranny of ‘manners’ so to speak. Not sure what quote you’re referring to though
Niether am I. Can’t remember where I read it, but since I stopped being quiet, and confidently introduce myself, I’ve gotten more respect.
that’s fine. It’ll probably come back to you
Guys who will speak for Jesus are salt, and if they lose their flavor, they run the risk of not being there to pray Jesus into a situation that cannot be cured with a straitjacket.
yeah, I get what you mean. It’s the whole ‘fools for christ’ thing. The thing is though have you never seen some religious guy on a soap box shouting at passers by about something or other, only for everybody to just walk on by. Now you could say well such people do not have ears to hear, but even if that’s true doesn’t it indemnify the ‘evangelist’ in question from all responsibility for calibrating and tailoring his message to those who might potentially have the ears to hear. The long and short of it is I don’t think those guys on the soap boxes shouting at the crowd are evangelists in any sense worthy of the word
I agree that street preachers aren’t actually accomplishing anything, and I’m also not going to change or tone down my message just to make it more palatable. Spiritual warfare, along with its combatants and mechanisms, is the message which God has commanded me to speak and write about.
There is no softer, less metaphysical way of discussing these issues. As mystifying as Paul’s writings on the topic may seem to most people, it’s actually already very watered-down and bite-sized.
“There is no softer, less metaphysical way of discussing these issues”
Well, of course I respect your choices – you have to do what you feel you have to do. I think we may have to agree to differ on whether this is the only way to address such things as ‘spiritual warfare’. The language changes with our understanding, as does what it may take to get through to people. I would disagree that that necessarily alters the nature of the matter at hand except to the extent that language partakes in constituting the objects of understanding. If you speak in terms demons and Satans with respect to ‘spiritual warfare’ you may convince those already convinced but may lose those who might find a more down to earth idiom say relating to temptations of the flesh or of desire or anger etc more palatable and intelligible. Isn’t it better to resist “Satan” without knowing that one does so, rather than fail to do so, because the idea that Satan or impish devils might seem impossible to believe in? Alternatively, we can ‘name’ the demon so to speak but use a modern form perhaps
Also, interesting reference: the Externalisation of the Hierarchy is a long and difficult book which I gave up on.
interesting titbit: Alice Bailey’s Lucis Trust (formerly Lucifer Trust) has a special place at the UN
Channeled texts (spirits speaking or writing through humans) can often come across as confusing and rambling nonsense. A lot of the time, that’s exactly what they are. And you are correct about Lucis Trust; Alice Bailey’s impact on the United Nations can hardly be overstated.
I’m not sure I’m really a believe in such things, but it doesn’t hurt to keep an open mind about what by all accounts is a strange universe. I’ve heard a lot of mention of Bailey’s influence, but haven’t encountered any fuller accounts
I was thumbing through Bailey’s Esoteric Healing and found a passage very critical of the Jews. The usual stuff about them being clannish, etc. Then it mentioned at least Jews are redeemable, blacks aren’t. I just read a few pages.
Interesting, if Bailey is truly part of the NWO open conspiracy then Jews and blacks are merely scapegoats and useful idiots.
I believe Externalisation of the Hierarchy means bringing the Theosophists hierarchy of channeled masters to rule on the Earth in a New World Order. I made a lengthy comment to Anthroposophist on Benjamin Creme and the Maitreya that details how they plan to accomplish this.
thanks. I’ve read your comment which is interesting. I have to say I’m reserving judgement on all that theosophy stuff, although I’m somewhat sceptical. There is some evidence that theosophy, or at least Blavatsky’s pioneering work in theosophy, was less than sincere right from the outset. Someone on ROK linked me to an article that argued that Blavatsky was involved with a man – an american I think – who was in fact an intelligence agent, the suggestion being that the entire enterprise was a psy-op. Now I’m not claiming it was, but if you think about it a lot of these ideas, are both quite bizarre yet serve a useful purpose in tenderising the mutton (us – the sheep) for certain types of ideas. Given the influence of theosophical and occult ideas, including at the highest level in the case of Alice Bailey and the UN there is every reason to not be dismissive of what is going on and to take it very seriously, but that doesn’t mean these beliefs systems that are what they say they are. Michael’s article is about (resisting?) a one world religion and it’s noticeable that these ascended masters often seem to include all the heavy hitters – moses, jesus, mohammed, buddha – as well as guys like this Maitreya (who it seems is a londoner from the asian community – I might well know him). This reminds me of nothing so much as South Park’s league of Super Best Friends or whatever it was.
I would also add that the eastern elements appear to mirror the western occult tradition somewhat – although where exactly does Lucifer / Satan etc appear in eastern mysticism, at least identifiably by name? I would suspect that if it was a psy op Blavatsky chose eastern mysticism in order make it more palatable and break down likely resistance through exoticism. Milton Friedman, the hypnotherapist, would explain how effective anecdotes were at overcoming people’s natural resistance / scepticism.
Having said that, I should probably engage with ‘Externalisation of the Hierachy’ a bit more. But it is so prolix and slow to get to the point
I think Miles Mathis has an article on Helena P. Blavatsky, founder of Theosophy, as an Intelligence asset. Certainly in her travels her contemporaries often viewed her as a British or Russian spy.
Some say HPB is the founder of the New Age, introducing Eastern mysticism to the West as a weapon against Christian ideas. In general Eastern ideas were becoming available to the West around that time with major works translated and published.
There are images and YT videos of Maitreya, perhaps you can identify him!
I linked to a ‘conspiracyarchive’ site for Benjamin Creme, just because it was a good summary. His ideas are freely available on the web from the source. I’m happy to see he passed in November, 2016.
Someone asked him once what happens to Christians who don’t accept Maitreya and his answer implied they would be eliminated.
Along with M. showing up on worldwide TV (not too miraculous I think), there’s the telepathic communication and him showing up not on TV, also there’s supposed to be a star that shows up in the sky (four stars for the whole planet I just read). In his early days he was channeling the ‘Space Brothers’. Seems ludicrous to me, but he has friends in high places.
So Creme’s basic idea is that humanity should share everything. Sounds great to the idealist, but isn’t that just Communism all over again?
Yes pretty sure the article I was thinking of is the Mathis one, although I can’t confirm at the moment. It seemed pretty convincing to me.
Not sure I recognise that guy although he could have shaved his beard. I’ll have to check out this stuff further but as I say i think the ascended master stuff is either psy op stuff or disinformation. Scaring the sheep is big business. Panic and paranoia may in themselves be ways of managing people, particularly those inclined to dissent.
On the other hand I am genuinely interested in a few turn of the century figures like ouspensky and gurdijeff, (and Steiner, evola etc.) although some of the latter has some troubling very elitist aspects.
I totally agree about the ascended master stuff being psy-op or disinfo. I think Blavatsky was caught out doing cheap parlor magic tricks to produce letters from them.
I read Ouspensky and Gurdjieff as a youth, planning to reread the latter’s Beelzebub’s Tales to His Grandson someday, see if it makes any more sense. (Yeah, I know, Beelzebub.)
Re-read? I got hold of that. I’ve heard it good but it’s absolutely massive. Secondary literature for me re. Gurdjieff, or diving in here or there. I’m in two minds about him. I actually find the idea that gnosis, or whatever he calls it is only accessible through instruction by those who know slightly repugnant. I can’t think of anything more elitist even if he is correct. There both on my list. I’ve start Ouspensky’s Strange Tale of Ivan O. but haven’t got very far for some reason, although it’s not very long
Beelzebub’s Tales is written in a very quirky style, with absolutely massive hard to follow sentences, but I kind of enjoyed that about it, I recall. Unfortunately that’s about all I recall.
I dipped into it, then decided against the investment in time and energy. Doesn’t mean I’m not interested in what he has to say though. A lot of people taking him very seriously
oh, one other thing, Project Blue Beam might be a bit dodgy. The wiki article the schema derives from an unproduced Gene Roddenberry Star Trek.
Well, Blue Beam is a conspiracy theory from the 90’s. I wouldn’t rely on wikipedia articles on controversial topics for anything but misdirection.
No of course not. But it doesn’t hurt to be sceptical either. I am somewhat wary of alien conspiracy theories and this type – ascended masters etc – could be seen as a not unrelated genre
“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?”
-Epicurus
Free will
“If he could have done what I think he should have, but didn’t, why should I revere my creator? There are evils here. It wasn’t me.”
-Epicurus
The chamberpot asks the potter, “Why did you not make me a goblet?”
Using the idea of God’s unfathomable nature is a typical excuse.That doesn’t change the fact that he creates and tolerates evil. He does not care for his creation.
It’s not just an excuse; it’s a fact.
Can’t know it all. Some elders at my church healed a little girl of her cancer. Doctors saw before and after. Gone. God cares, and he’s waiting for you to carry his torch. People don’t need nice guys. They need God’s really dangerous men.
One little girl was healed but billion others died. Billions who prayed and cried for help.
What about members of other religions who have experienced similar miraculous cures and attribute them to their God?
Are they wrong?
Ask ’em. When I prayed, but my wife’s sister had her baby cut out of her, or when I prayed and my father died, or when I prayed and the elders visited my mother, but she still gave away my inheritance to an online scammer, or when I prayed and my wife still took the kids, or when I prayed for years for my friend to come to church, and he did, and then that night he helped end my marriage while I slept in the next room with my son. Still, here I am, texting to you on Jesus’ behalf. I attribute this conversation, however miraculous, to God.
If I were you, I would have given up already. It is commendable that you stick to your faith nonetheless.
Let’s hope that it won’t be in vain.
It’s not. This is faith. Tell a guy what you’ve seen and that Jesus brought you through it. Jesus also helped me see what’s good in ol’ Roosh V and the Red Pill.
I also have experienced much the same thing. I was a pagan vainly chanting in the hopes that such would bring me power. Then I was a demonist, believing that magical circles and the right incantations would bind spirits to do my bidding (fun fact: it didn’t, and I was tormented).
One night I was performing a ritual to conjure an angel, and something showed up physically in my room. It was the likeness of a man radiating light, but there was malice in its eyes and laugh. In fear I cried out to God, and the being vanished as if it were never there. Immediately, I was forced to the ground and lay there face down, as though dead, while God revealed to me my manifold sins and transgressions of the Law. It was as though the shadow of the shadow of his glory passed over me, and I saw immediately my wretchedness and insignificance compared to his majesty. I shed many tears, begging for forgiveness that I not be wiped from the earth and cast into the hell I so richly deserved.
I was told this, and I have never forgotten: “I have allowed you this far. No more.” I carry the fear I felt that night to this day, and every time I look at pagan paraphernalia I feel it as strongly as ever.
I know that my redeemer lives, and I know that I can do nothing to merit the mercy and grace he continues to show me.
Amen, man. I’m glad you called out. I’m also glad you wrote. I don’t think anyone ‘feels’ saved all the time. Mercy is a guilty business and conscience is a killer. We can’t earn grace, since it’s bestowed. God blessyou, man. That’s some heavy history.
I wouldn’t wish that on anyone, but God works all things for the good of those who love him and are called according to his purpose. I think the primary reason this was allowed to happen to me was so that I could tell the story.
You and me both. Thank you for sharing this powerful testimony.
Despite my affinity for hard rock, metal and the occasional hard core (punk), the occult is nothing to mess around with. Music is one thing, incantations are another.
Thanks for sharing that.
It’s a fine line, but I agree. I wish there were more Christian metal bands like Theocracy; worship music in general is missing the kind of virtuosic musicianship that always drew me to metal in the first place.
“It’s as true today as it was 2,000 years ago that spirits use human beings as vessels by which to carry out their will.”
–Citation needed–
Thanks for the upvote. I was going to add a long logical treatise on this “battle of God vs demons” thing…but I don’t want to to get in a pissing match with all my Christian Brothers here, so I figured I’d restrain from typing out a longer rebuttal to the basic thesis behind this piece. If Christ makes them better men, that’s all that matters to me.
But I would like to say this much: perhaps if we wanted to work towards a one-world religion, we ought to look instead at the philosophical & psychological underpinnings of all the religions we already have – because (hear me out) if we can boil those down to their purest, truest essences, and cut away all the extraneous dogma & plain old hoodoo, then MAYBE we’d be able to outline a very real path to true personal peace & fulfillment that would apply to EVERYBODY, regardless of their ethnicity, age, background, socioeconomic status or anything.
If you want to get a feel for what I mean, go over to YouTube & listen to Dr Jordan Peterson’s recent series of lectures on the significance of the Biblical stories. It runs from the Creation up through Abraham & Isaac, and touches on other stories & themes from throughout the whole Bible. It’s a LOT to watch, probably 40+ hours, but WELL WORTH IT. I just finished the last one last night & I found it completely profound & satisfying. I learned so many things & got so many insights on actions that I need to take in my own life. Bottom line: that’s closer to a true global religion IMHO than any mumbo jumbo about a divine battle of collect-em-all for the souls of humanity between Magic Good Man & Magic Bad Man.
I’ll try ‘im out, but no promises. I’m kind of a literal-translation bible guy, but I collect insights. Doesn’t everyone?
Why not both, maybe? I’d argue that one can believe in the factual truth of the Biblical stories AND at the same time, understand the psychological bases for them. Because, honestly, if they did not resonate on that psychological level — even if only subconsciously — we probably wouldn’t still be reading them 3,000 years later.
‘we’d be able to outline a very real path to true personal peace & fulfillment that would apply to EVERYBODY, regardless of their ethnicity, age, background, socioeconomic status or anything.’
I do not follow.
There is nothing in our Faith to exclude anybody.
Dr Peterson says lots of interesting things.
It’s fun to see him uncover the majesty of Christianity, his awe and delight.
Good.
Well, you know ‘R’ and ‘K’ genetic selection theory?
Wait ’till the good Dr finds out all that is Old Testament. Kane and Abel.
A musical treatment of this Biblical truth……
…..Regards.
It’s funny.
There is not a single Christian here who can explain why he is a Christian, why he believes the Bible, and explain the moral philosophy of his own religion.
I can smell a great triggering coming.
Mostly deflections, I reckon.
You have provided many assertions and challenges, but you have thus far provided nothing but insult in your own defense.
Provide an argument. We are happy to debate.
I asked you a question and you can’t even explain why you believe in what you believe.
Questions are not insults.
This is entirely false, and I suspect you know that. You began the assault with the following:
This is not an argument. This is an assertion lacking in evidence, which you admitted you have not sought out. It is not incumbent on the opposing party to provide YOUR argument for you – come back with something to discuss, and we’ll be happy to work with you.
So why are you afraid to defend your own belief system and set me right?
I find it absolutely fascinating that you Christians are intellectually incapable of defending your own religion yet you think everybody should believe it.
You are so far incapable of attacking our faith, and so why defend? You provide insult, but insult is meaningless.
I don’t care if you believe in it. One of the most important parts of the Christian faith is that it cannot be compulsory. Christ said this. That is very different from Islam, which is quite okay with making people profess belief at the point of a gun or the tip of a sword.
Now, many Christians do take the call to evangelize seriously and many have a bad tact about how they do it, and many false Christians probably make matters worse. But the fact is, it’s written in the Bible that Christ himself asserted that a soul can only be saved by coming to Christ willingly.
If christianity cannot be compulsory, they why do christians try to use the government to spread it by force ?
Guys: Just don’t dox yourselves writing a testimony out, yeah?
Why should we? He’s a Christianophobe.
Nobody here has anything to prove to you. I suppose we should be trying to save your soul or something. Maybe a few hundreds years ago
Why can’t you answer simple questions about your own belief system?
That should trouble you in itself
Well I can’t see that there would be much point. If you approached things with an open mind I imagine someone would try, but you’re just being pugilistic
Well chosen. I would have gone with “ornery”, “pusillanimous,” or “cantankerous,” but “pugilistic” is a better fit.
Ornery. Good word that
That seems like a cop out.
Well, what even if I were so inclined, what would I be likely to achieve, beyond wasting time and energy? You don’t come across as someone who is challenging others in order to be proved wrong, but simply a kind of anti-religious bezerker determined to take out as many of the enemy before they finally fell you with a mortal blow
In other words, you can’t intellectually defend your own philosophy and blaming me for not appreciating your lack of effort.
what philosophy is that? Nobody will accuse you of not being able to repeat yourself
I’ve come back full circle to this after going through atheistic/ agnostic stages and studying deeply into the sciences, mainly biochemistry. I became an atheist at age 10 when I read the bible with the intent of reading the whole thing. After about 4-5 books, I decided it was no better than greek mythology and moved on to science.
The thing is, science leaves you just as empty as everything else I’ve ever studied in the long run. Especially the belief that everything is random and has popped up by chance. I bought into that when I was younger, but the thought never sat well with me. The more I studied science, the more I leaned to evolution being utter crap and intelligent design being the only answer to why we are here. Just for some context as well, I have a Master’s in Biochemistry, which included 4 years studying mostly the sciences in undergrad, including physics, cosmology, advanced mathematics, advanced chemistries and physical chemistries. I had another 3 years of study to get the Masters degree, mostly molecular and microbiology as well as hard biochem. I have worked in labs for 5 years total as well.
Now that I’ve said that, I do have to admit that I’ve never performed any direct experiments or directly performed research in any theoretical science which dealt with the very nature of the universe or suggested or proved intelligent design is the only answer. I’ve also never seen any real research which does anything more than suggest that maybe, it could have been possible for things to just pop into existence on their own.
It all came together for me, how little we truly know, as several of my professors spoke honestly. They said things like, “the solar system,” “the atom,” “the big bang,” “this equation,” “dark matter,” etc…, these things aren’t real, at least not what we are showing you on the board in text books, etc… but are mere models. They are models based on our best current understanding. They are the best we can do with the previous study, the mathematics and the measurements we have now, but that’s all they are is models of our understanding. Each and every one of them is subject to change as soon as any new evidence is made available.
Basically, it was revealed to me that the science presented in TV, the news, movies are all big frauds. If you go and read actual scientific papers, you might read something like, “The outcomes of these experiments, coupled with the previous research of so and so, suggest to us that X phenomenon may be the cause of Y event we have witnessed.
Then the media presents the research more like this, “Science has proven there is a gay gene.”
Slowly, I became aware that intelligent design actually fits much better in my limited understanding and the science I was actually performing, than random chance did. The largest part of my study which suggested this to me was the study of DNA, RNA and proteins, the complexities, the near perfection and how all life seems to be immortal from the perspective of being a gene. Pretty amazing stuff. I also learned I wasn’t alone. Many of the most intelligent scientists I knew also believed in intelligent design.
Now, I do have to admit I haven’t thoroughly explored other religions. I do have every intent of doing some decent study into each of the major religions at some point before I do, because atheists do have a point when they say that most religious people believe in the religion they were raised in as children. Still, I’ve come back to Christianity because I’m 100% sure there is a creator and it fits my world view.
I also find the admission that all people are terrible sinners and are not worthy of escaping death to be a very fitting and truthful account of the human condition. It fits mostly well with what I know of myself, but also of what I know of other people, even the good ones. I’ve read that all other religions rely on peoples good works to get them to heaven, or nirvana or the good afterlife, etc… The Bible acknowledging that non of us are truly good seems like a very basic truth to me and I’m not sure how many other religions acknowledge that.
I’ll also add that when I read the bible now, it’s a totally different experience than when I was ten. I realize now that pretty much ever passage is filled with wisdom. Good ways to live your life. Life truths that many people want to ignore. One of the aspects of the Bible which I think resonates with many on websites like this is it’s very accurate description of the nature of women, the nature of men and how we should and shouldn’t interact. Basically, every time I read it as an adult, it speaks to me in some way I find deeply truthful. I realize I simply had not the maturity to understand these things at ten years old. I also must note that when I go back and read greek and norse mythology now, I do find many good and entertaining stories and even some good moral stories, but I never feel as though I’m reading wisdom.
Now, that’s not to say Christianity is the only wisdom containing system. Clearly all conservative religions contain much of the same wisdom in terms of comporting society, but as I said, I’m not very studied in these.
I also do feel certain types of strength, bravery, comfort, peace and readiness, when I pray, when I ask for God’s help in Jesus name. Now, one could argue many biological or scientific reasons for this and I’m sure many Muslims feel the same. But I didn’t have this feeling with a belief in evolution.
So to sum this up, religion, spirituality, etc.. is a deeply personal experience for most people and there will not be a short, straight line, purely logical answer for you as to their belief system. No matter how simply your question is, it’s not that simple of an answer if you really want to understand it.
But I believe you don’t actually want to understand anyone’s personal reasons. I imagine you were challenging someone to answer you, simply so you could boil their answer down to one or two phrases, deride it and move on with a “victory” under you belt.
Please excuse the bad grammar in this post. Your question required too long of an answer for me to go back and correct it.
Thank you for sharing this testimony. Very powerful!
You try too hard. We know you are attention starved and a Christianophobe, yet you cant explainme why beyond your transparent need to feel self-important.
Since you love to be part of a trend, are you a heterophobe as well? Your empty virtue signalling implies you are.
Yet you are too afraid to even explain who you are or what you believe in a logical way.
Did you write a second reply?
Why can’t you just state what you believe in and why?
Why are you afraid of your own religion?
You want something to munch on? Fine, I will humor you with the basic tenets of our belief.
I believe in God, the Father Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible.
I believe in One Lord Jesus Christ, the only begotten son of the Father, begotten of his father before all worlds. God of god; light of light; very God of very God; begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father by whom all things were made. Who, for us men and for our salvation, came down from heaven, and was incarnate by the Holy Spirit of the virgin Mary, and was made man; and was crucified for us also under Pontius Pilate. He suffered, and was buried. The third day he rose again in accordance with the Scriptures. He ascended into heaven and sits at the right hand of the Father. And he will come again in glory to judge both the living and the dead. His kingdom shall have no end.
And I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord and giver of life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son, who with the Father and the Son together is worshiped and glorified, who spoke by the prophets. And I believe in one holy Christian and apostolic Church, I acknowledge one baptism for the remission of sins, and I look for the resurrection of the dead and the life of the world to come.
The only one who is afraid of my religion here is you, Christianophobe.
Why are you so afraid?
Are the big bad Christians going to get you?
I bet you are also a heterophobe.
You should mock the troll, my friend.
He’s clearly just attention starved and a victim of crippling self-hatred.
Why are you intellectually incapable of defending your own religion and belief system?
Why are you afraid of stating what you believe?
Why are you intellectually incapable of accepting Christianity terrifies you?
It’s the current year, you should be able to deal with it, but no, you chose to be a Christianophobe.
You can’t even explain why you are a Christian and deflect from answering a question any true believing Christian should want to and happily answer.
The one deflecting like crazy is you.
You can’t even explain your Christianophobia, all you do is act irrational and somehow believe that makes you smarter. XD
“My religion is true because it say it’s true.” = Christians and Muslims.
‘There is not a single Christian here who can explain why he is a Christian, why he believes the Bible, and explain the moral philosophy of his own religion.’
That’s a bit of an Opus required tbo.
Why?
All aspects of the Faith appear logical and necessary to me.
Whenever I consider an atheistic outlook it appears in error, illogical and bound to lead to unhappiness.
‘..why he believes the Bible,…’
Christ referred to scripture.
If we were to be deceived by false scriptural doctrines, we would be warned about this by Him
‘explain the moral philosophy of his own religion.’
By our works you shall know us.
See our example, that is the ‘moral philosophy’.
Hope that qualifies as an attempt to answere your questions.
This is the point, by your works we know you.
Your own actions are proof of your religions falsehood.
OK, well.
Never mind.
“I act like a total fucking asshole to anyone who believes in Jesus and then they don’t want to give me a snappy soundbite explanation of why they believe, why are they so triggered!?”
I especially identify as a Christian because I see things as an epic struggle of good vs. evil going on in the world. Just choosing sides.
Christians believe in the bible and christianity because when they were small impressionable children, authority figures that they trusted and respected told them it was so.
Being inexperienced, and terrified by the typical christian fear and guilt doctrine, they did not question.
This is called morality and truth when done by a christian, and is called brainwashing when done by anyone else.
I grew up in a very conservative, fundamentalist christian church and I have seen this many times.
As for moral philosophy, christians do not care, they are just like Muslims and liberal, their entire agenda is to force their delusion onto others.
We need alien intervention.
“OK assholes, time to take off the training wheels and get your shit together, we’re not letting you self-annihilate and take this planet down with you.”
‘We’re the Constellation Civilisation, and we’re here to help!’
While you guys debate all this, the religion of peace is rapidly moving in and even more rapidly having children.
..
Will you debate until there is only a few of you left?
…
What will you DO about the religion of peace?
Ask the local Christianophobe.
This is precisely my point. We are losing the physical war–badly–because Muslims have a zeal for Mohammad that is not remotely matched by Christian zeal for Jesus. And where that zeal exists, it’s a watered-down and effeminate version of Jesus that makes beta males feel less insecure about the masculine principles which the Bible actually preaches instead.
In other words, one must become more of a true believer than the other guy to conquer the world.
You want to defeat Islam yet you can’t even defend the philosophy of your own religion and wonder why you are losing.
Your comment makes no sense, dude.
Try to calm down and don’t spread yourself thin. Focus on one argument.
‘In other words, one must become more of a true believer than the other guy to conquer the world.’
Through Faith, we try to conquer ourselves.
The World can wait, and it will.
It did before.
His statement makes perfect sense, christianity has nothing to offer but hypocrisy and hate.
Like he said, you wonder why Islam is winning.
Before anyone says it, Islam is full of hypocrisy and hate to, they just market it better.
If everything you see outside of yourself is “hypocrisy and hate,” perhaps it’s time to turn your eyes inward and discern whether there is more going on.
Agreed to all that.
A ‘softer’ feminised Christianity is a knife without a blade.
All human conflict is spiritual in essence, physical in it’s manifestation on Earth.
Without The Faith, there never would have been the ‘western civilisation’ we see slipping away.
Without The Faith, it can never be saved.
Civilisation is never material gadgets, electricity or ‘information’. These are distractions from Real Life; our struggle to avoid forsaking our souls.
The rest is noise.
Ok.
The religion of peace just got more Somalis in Minnesota.
200 more religion of peacers were born and are on govt dole.
…
What to DO?
…
argue some more?
If it were up to me, there are several changes I would make. The governments of the original 13 American colonies were modeled on congregational Protestant Church governance back in England, and part of this meant that no atheist or non-Christian could really be in charge of anything.
In fact, of the 55 original delegates, only 3 were not explicitly Christian (and they were still Deists who may or may not have floated in and out of Christianity over time). It was beyond the imagination of our nation’s Founding Fathers that anyone who did not believe in God would ever have a say in how it was run, and you couldn’t even be a citizen without regular church attendance and membership.
That rule was later cast aside as more people started being born and the Puritan zeal started to wear off, but it was still expected of everyone that they’d be a God-fearing and moral person. When those were the rules, America did not have a Muslim problem.
Even under such a system, which seems like you’d have to do away with the 1st amendment, couldn’t you pretend/fake it to advance yourself?
Also in those puritan enclaves of early America, weren’t the wealthier citizens the members of the congregation whose job it was to “check up” on sinful behavior (drinking alcohol etc.)? They would take small bribes to look the other way.
I’m not sure about the latter part, but one of the greatest lies of our time is that “Freedom Of Religion” meant some kind of universal tolerance for any and all belief systems. The phrase first came about as a way to settle disputes between Quakers and Puritans, who were at each others’ throats in the colonies and constantly getting into fights with each other.
The first “Freedom Of Religion” statute was put into place so that people could be Quakers, Puritans, Episcopalians, Anabaptists, Catholics, or any other kind of Christianity they wanted to follow without being persecuted by the others…
Except that even with that statute in place, it only extended to Trinitarian denominations–and denying the divinity of Christ led to a death sentence for blasphemy.
Do not let historical revisionists deceive you as to what Freedom of Religion actually meant in the context and time in which it was written.
You’re not in favor of punishing people for blasphemy in this day and age right?
When the church made the rules the result was the dark ages.
It was beyond the imagination of our founding fathers that the church be allowed any kind of political power.
This is why they very wisely separated church and state.
Please don’t whine to me that separation of church and sttae does not exist when the first amendment, the law, history and the courts all say it does.
I am not. The crux of Christianity, at least in my interpretation, is choice. Choice to obey God’s will or not. Choice to accept His Son as Lord and Savior or not. It cannot be forced on people and still take root in their hearts.
One kind of choice leads to a certain set of consequences, and the other choice leads to a very different one.
Without the choice being freely made, the relationship between Christ and man loses its meaning.
Well good I would hate to see apostasy/blasphemy punishments over here like they have in islamic countries.
Freedom of Religion should be changed to Freedom of Christianity
Islam maintains membership through fear and the threat of punishment. Christianity maintains membership through love and grace.
I am not against the burning of witchcraft books and similar materials, but I am certainly against punishment for the simple act of non-belief. Non-belief is not malicious in and of itself, and does not necessarily cause harm, but certain actions that non-believers can take CAN be harm-causing.
Don’t forget the subversive zeal of the Jews.
What of the old saying “if you can’t beat them, join them?”
It was recently said here, if you can’t beat them, get bigger stick.
Needs more gun.
We CAN beat them. Nobody is making a genuine and concerted effort–yet.
‘It is important (and often difficult) to remember that in our dealing with political enemies, we are not actually competing against human beings.’
Our enemies know we are reluctant to recognise this.
However, it seems they are unable to resist revealing themselves to us…..
https://vigilantcitizen.com/sinistersites/sinister-sites-rockefeller-center/
“Our struggle is not against flesh and blood,” as Paul wrote.
This idea is captured, to a degree, in the principles of 4th Generation Warfare (and in the warfare texts of antiquity such as The Art of War. Warfare is not primarily focused on destroying physical things like lands and people, but rather destroying the moral spirit of the enemy and breaking the will to fight.
‘Warfare is not primarily focused on destroying physical things like lands and people, but rather destroying the moral spirit of the enemy and breaking the will to fight.’
ERxactly.
Are you familiar with ‘Secret Weapons For A Quiet War?’
(Smart italics eh?)
I think it is possible for other faiths to be grafted onto Christianity through anthroposophy, but I am leery of those who would dilute faiths, especially Christianity.
People forcing their religious beliefs on others has been going on for thousands of years, but I wouldn’t expect this on ROK. The writer of this article looks mentally ill and is basically the Christian equivalent of a Muslim who wants to force Islam on others and doesn’t tolerate critical questions.
If you want to follow the Bible: go ahead. But how do you know Christianity is not a false religion? Exactly, you don’t know. The same holds for any other religion.
Just stop giving Muslims what they want and you stop the Islamization. Don’t make exceptions for them and don’t fall for their tricks calling you a racist, islamophobe etc. Our country, our rules. They don’t like it? Then get the fuck out of here and go to an Islamic country.
‘But how do you know Christianity is not a false religion? ‘
My life is my evidence.
‘Just stop giving Muslims what they want and you stop the Islamization. ‘
…but WHY stop giving them what they want?
Why fight for ‘our children’s future’?
What’s the core rational seeing as ‘in the long run we are all dead’?
Nobody forced you to read this article you fedora
Excellent points, Sir, Thank you.
Real simple, no where in the new testament are Christians ordered to kill and rape as a form of salvation, but the Koran on the other hand…
New testament? The old one isn’t good enough that they gotta make the new version?
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b26cf361ffd4f0e7fddfd622f8ba7d68a90c2894c15de5fcfa18231fd4ddbdfa.jpg Cant tell if troll or serious
Once you read both testaments, you will realize that anyone who believes that ” god ” is the same yesterday, today, and forever is a fool.
It’s a man made then?
Instead of making speculation, how about, you know, just answer it?
Okay, so I’ll assume you’re being serious then.
The new testament doesn’t cancel out the old one, it adds to it. So idk why you implied the old one was thrown out or something.
I am.
It adds to it? Who made it? Jesus himself? Why there was a need to make the testament #2; additional version?
I didn’t mean to say that they threw away the old one, I was just asking why did they make a new one? What’s wrong with the old one? What’s the new one has that the old one doesn’t?
To ensure that salvation is through faith rather than works or genetics, its the main reason why Jesus was killed.
Matthew 5:17 “”Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.” ~ Jesus
New Testament is like a badly written sequel.
The New Testament is the story of Jesus Christ, who initially came to reconcile sinful Jews back to God’s righteousness and holiness. The Old Testament is mostly the story of God trying to get the Jews to be righteous and follow His commandments, while they disobey Him and suffer for it in one way or another.
Upon realizing that His people were so lost and “iron-necked” as the Old Testament says (meaning “stubborn” and stuck in their ways) that what He was trying wasn’t really working, God then sent His only son, Jesus Christ, to demonstrate what a holy and righteous Jew is supposed to be like.
This was in strict contrast to the ruling Pharisees at the time of King Herod in Judea, who were abusing and twisting the Old Testament in order to maintain their power and control over people rather than actually being spiritual leaders.
In addition to sending Jesus to lead the people of Israel away from worldliness and back to holiness, God always made Jesus the ultimate sin-sacrifice for the many and varied sins of the people of Israel.
Instead of their having to make sacrifices constantly to absolve their community of all the sin they accumulated throughout a given year, God sent Jesus to die in order to cover–once and forever–all of humanity’s present and future sins.
Forgiveness and grace, subsequently, are free gifts God offers to all who believe that Jesus died as the ultimate sin-sacrifice and that our sins were covered by His death.
When Jesus was physically alive, He specifically and only preached to what He called “the lost sheep of Israel,” meaning Jews who had lost the way God intended them to walk, besides one or two minor incidents involving non-Jews.
Since the Jews rejected Christ–once again proving their disobedience to God–Jesus appeared to Paul instead, and made him “apostle to the Gentiles.” Had the Jews accepted Christ as their Messiah, He would probably not have reached out to the Gentiles instead, but now Gentiles are “grafted into the vine” and hence all who believe in Jesus Christ are now “the spiritual nation of Israel,” God’s chosen people.
Hope that helps explain the purpose and mission of the New Testament.
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Islam definitely uses force but I fail to see where this author is asking anyone to convert at the tip of a sword. Did I miss that someplace?
Read the last line in the article, no sword is mentioned but the intent is pretty clear.
I didn’t see him forcing any conversions under the pain of death. Wee you personally threatened? Did his words hurt you?
Thank you for this uplifting article, more proof that I can remind myself that I am not alone in this struggle. Taking a look within myself, I still see many flaws, many sins, many imperfections. In the mortal coil, all of us will wither away to nothing someday, but I believe in the light that is Christ and Christ only, so in my faith I am strong: “for the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Jesus Christ our Lord” (Romans 6:23).
‘And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.’
Matt 25:40.
You’re welcome Raptus. You are not alone!
Islamists are way ahead of you.
Someone (anyone) please just come invade and take over Australia:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4807090/Women-fitness-test-four-push-ups-Australian-Army.html
Did Australia suddenly got the disease that’s killing Sweden?
I suppose so. Hell, it wouldn’t surprise me if naming one’s kid Bruce down unda’ became a crime.
I just don’t get it, one time they say men and women are the same then they do this to recruit more women.
I’m about to turn 50, I’ve had one heart attack, two spine surgeries and probably going to need another one , don’t have any joints that don’t cause pain from time to time and I’m not in great shape and I can do 8 push-ups without having to attend 7weeks of training.
Hell I bet I could do their 7 weeks of training while carrying one them on my back….. I can if she’s skinny enough anyway.
Australia will go full retard when they let faggots get married. This is only still partial retard.
True. That was the one thing I was proud of for my homecountry Germany.
I could always say it’s bad but at least we don’t let faggots get married.
Don’t worry, gay marriage in Germany will end again once it’s fully under the authority of Sharia Law.
The Turks over there would go apoplectic. Merkel did it to appease them not out of any sense of decency.
Well, now we have surely abandoned all sanity anyway.
Yeah, ain’t that something to look forward to. Screwed either way.
Unless you get a swift blow to the back of the head to return to a semblance of normalcy.
I heard she proclaim her personal anti-gay marriage views. I guess even a broken clock is….
I believe it still a calculated move to keep the Muslims appeased.
You can come back from full retard, look at the USA, christianity has been in decline for years now.
The USA has rejected gay marriage? If not then they hardly came back.
Similar to recent RoK story: Australian Fire Departments Quota of 50% Will Get People Killed
You know forcing a religion upon peoples face will lead to resistance.People always fight back
Europe and Canada aren’t fighting back against islam, just sayin’
What is happening in Europe and Canada is incomprehensible. Can anybody explain it in 2 sentences?
Or is it simply the suicide of a people that as grown too bored to strive for life?
I only need two words: cucked and comfortable. When a man doesn’t have his own kids and the government takes a giant bite out of his earnings to support other people’s kids, you can’t blame him for not caring enough to make things better. Any effort he put to that would be just more resources spent to make things better for other people’s kids. Combine that with modern comforts and that the collapse probably won’t be for a few decades makes for a great reason to just ride it out poolside.
Socialism.
I can explain it in one sentence.
They’re being run by people who have no defense against demonic infiltration.
‘Any effort he put to that would be just more resources spent to make things better for other people’s kids. ‘
Further, ‘he’ sees that the Welfare Society his labour is sustaining produces unhappy children and eventually dangerous criminals and a-social elements.
It becomes immoral to pay taxes into a huge Unhappiness Machine that is devouring society.
Jews.
If you’re opposed to the Muslim invasion in Europe (I’m in US), voicing your opposition is considered ‘hate speech’. You can be arrested and jailed for Facebook comments or for waving a bacon sandwich around in front of a Muslim. They seem much more far along in the totalitarian SJW agenda.
when you have prime ministers who are pussiest of all you get what you pay for.But I see hungary&poland fighting back
Didn’t Charlemagne force people into Christianity by a edict to convert or die? Any wonder why Norsemen attacked Christian churches later?
Catholic means “Universal.” This Church condemned Gnosticism, Cathar’s and suppressed evidence that Jesus was an Essene. The later groups believed no 3rd party could intervene in a man’s personal relationship with God. The council of Nicea enforced a belief system, condemned any other sect of Christians as Heretics and proceeded to hunt them down and murder them. The Nicean creed set the tone of what was considered “Orthodox.”
Jesus never claimed to be a son of god. He referred to himself as the “Son a Man.” Christian’s play word games to make him fit their idea of a god. Why do you have to accept Jesus turned water into wine or walked on water? Because it strips you of your divinity and relationship with god.
The actual political structure and offices of the Church are Latin and titles used by Rome. Constantine merely subverted Christianity and used it as a tool because it was a threat to the State.
While I can respect the teaching of Jesus in the context of having a fair understanding of Gnosticism, Christianity was subverted and used as a tool of expansion by the sword. It pacified Europeans. Islam is another religion religion that uses the sword to pacify. The literal name means “Submission.”
These Semitic religions are strictly dualistic. Earlier polytheistic religions didn’t give a damn if you worshiped Apollo or Ares, Odin or Thor. There was a concept of the trickster but no absolute personified evil entity.
We’re caught up in a 2000 year religious conflict that’s completely alien to the majority of Europeans. Name a country that embraced Islam or Christianity without conflict. You’d be hard pressed to do so.
Screw a Universal religion, it’s just another form of control.
You’re confusing Catholicism with Christianity, I don’t blame you it’s a common mistake.
The Pope is a heretical concept and usually a position occupied by false prophets.
Jesus constantly referred to Himself God’s Son, and did perform miracles. Even His enemies, in accusing Him of sorcery, thereby admitted that He was performing miracles (though they tried to distort them to make it seem evil).
You are right that Catholicism was spread violently–one of many practices they engage in which Christ Himself would have condemned. As Samseau mentioned, the Pope is a complete heresy…and I’m fairly certain that burning incense to the “Queen Of Heaven” is exactly the kind of pagan practice that Christians are supposed to turn away from.
“Son of Man” != “Son of God”
John 5:18-20,
“Because of this, the Jews tried all the harder to kill Him. Not only was He breaking the Sabbath, but He was even calling God His own Father, making Himself equal with God. So Jesus replied, “Truly, truly, I tell you, the Son can do nothing by Himself, unless He sees the Father doing it. For whatever the Father does, the Son also does. The Father loves the Son and shows Him all He does. And to your amazement, He will show Him even greater works than these.”
Excellent. Religion makes one blind to reality.
A single world religion would be an immeasurable loss for the richness of humanity. There are too many points of view, too many cultures, too many divergent perspectives (thank God!) for any one faith system to represent them all.
And the loss of those perspectives would harm how we understand and grow in our own spiritual lives. Learning about Hinduism, Buddhism, even ancient Greek/Roman spiritual practice both challenges and informs my understanding of my own Christian tradition. I am a better, richer, more spiritually attuned Christian because of exposure to other traditions. They are not competitors. They are shared glimpses of the eternal mystery.
Sadly, the exception here seems to be Islam, as so many Muslims appear to still be fighting the Crusades and actively working to erase “kafir.” They are competing against other faiths and traditions, rather than sharing wisdom with them. Would anybody here really want Christians to adopt a similar position?
No, but Christians growing back a pair and taking a stand would be nice.
Gonna get no argument from me. Deus Vult.
We are going to have to start by kicking them out of the old churches they have taken over.
Even though I don’t presently attend, I grew up in church, the old guys that were around then were MEN. They were religious but, they didn’t put up with foolishness and would take no crap from anybody.
Christians actually doing what the bible says would be nice.
Don’t forget that Greece became Christian and absorbed everything true and good in Greek philosophies. Orthodox monks are basically Stoic sages.
Very good point, Sir. Sadly adopting the position of the Muslims seems to the christian agenda any more.
Christians are still fighting the crusades to.
True Christianity is Incarnational. This is why the Greek Church is Platonist, why the Roman Church is full of Germanic and Celtic custom, why the Chinese Church translated Christianity into Buddhist and Taoist idiom, why the Mexican Church incorporated Nahua custom, why the Japanese Church disguised the Virgin Mary as the Buddha. If the whole world followed the true Faith, the tribes and nations would not lose their traditional character but intensify them. You wouldn’t recognize the externals traveling around the world but you would nonetheless be united in the Truth, while remaining politically and culturally separate.
Reading Alice Bailey is what lead me to the Red Pill.
Understanding the Lucis trust – U.N. – Freemasonic connection will really throw you down a rabbit hole. The author of this article must know because he mentions how evil uses human beings as vessels – a direct reference to Bailey’s “channeled” materials.
Before becoming Christian, I studied people like Alice Bailey, Dion Fortune, and Manly P. Hall from the “other side of the fence.” I was very fortunate to have God show me the truth of what I was into and save me from it.
Yes I had the unfortunate experience of picking up a Bailey book that someone left at my house. I was lucky to wake up but it was difficult to understand the enormity of it in its global context – yet it puts things into perspective. I have also had further experiences that have opened my eyes greatly and confirmed the truths of Christianity to me if you’d ever like to discuss. Curious how you feel about Rudolf Steiner?
A quick look at his Wikipedia page suggests he’s the kind of person whose work I used to spend enormous amounts of time reading, but I don’t recall ever picking up one of his books. For a couple of years I considered Hall’s “Secret Teachings Of All Ages” to be the ultimate truth on all matters spiritual, and from Steiner’s bio it seems he would have liked that book as well.
Steiner attempted to point a way back to Christianity, though he did it from an occult angle. Things become very nuanced when discussing the esoteric, so I won’t attempt to defend him in this forum. At any rate I do believe that Christianity holds the truth and is at the heart of the spiritual battle for mankind which manifests in so many ways in culture and politics.. Although you sound like a busy man who has reached his own conclusions on spiritual matters – I would suggest reading “Meditations on the Tarot” by Valentin Tomberg, a former pupil of Steiner turned Roman Catholic Priest – It definitely restored hope for me after the spiritual crises that reading Bailey caused me. And I will be looking into Victory in the Unseen Warfare as well.
‘”Secret Teachings Of All Ages” to be the ultimate truth on all matters spiritual,..’
Crikey!
U-turn ! U-turn!
Agreed. I bought into it hook, line and sinker at first.
I am extremely skeptical of any and all forms of “esoteric Christianity” which are propounded by the various gnostic /occult sects. I have studied many of them and moved through that phase on the way to where I am now, and across the board (in my experience) they pervert the Gospel while drawing the mind away from salvation.
Hi.
You wouldn’t be the first nor the last.
Just looking up ‘”Meditations on the Tarot” as per ref below.
From my experience, the ‘occult’ (for want of a better phrase) can and will ‘reach out’ to those seeking answers.
Hard to ignore at first.
Occultism is a chew toy for the over-intelligent.
Ultimately, it leads to nothing. Philosophy without Christ is a whole lot of nothing.
We should expect to be deceived and misled.
We are warned that this will happen.
As intellectuals, the Gnostic approach massages our egos.
‘Occultism is a chew toy for the over-intelligent.’
…and the over privileged, the bored and those who seek after sensations.
Thus, they are like children wandering in the forest.
Some actually want to be food for the wolves that lurk in the shadows.
The most reasonable of the Gnostic Christian sects, to me, is the Cathars. I considered myself one when I started writing for ROK, and they aren’t “occult” or anything like that. Just dualist.
I still think they have the only logical response to certain difficult questions, but the Holy Spirit seems to be pulling me away from it. For intelligent people, the hardest thing to do is have faith without human reason kicking in. Still struggle with it and not sure where I’ll ultimately wind up on the topic.
Cathars?
Yes, their asceticism alone is attractive (I recall they laughed at a Vatican emissary because he was bedecked in jewels, their ridicule disturbed and even shamed him).
Dualists, yes didn’t they regard this Earth as being Hell, ruled by ‘The Prince of this world’?
‘…but the Holy Spirit seems to be pulling me away from it. ‘
That’s that then.
I do know for sure that there is truth and revelation within some writing to emerge from their creed. Namely this….
https://archive.org/stream/pdfy-u7SvejTDHy1IGLhE/The%20Hypostasis%20Of%20The%20Archons_djvu.txt
…but here’s the thing….
From my direct experience, the entry into this world of certain non-human entities is somehow regulated by our ability to accept that they are real.
This happens regardless of our ‘opinions’ or our ‘assessments’.
Simple knowledge itself, even is disregarded; is sufficient.
Thus, it seems possible that this partial revelation of important truths is simply a ploy, strategy of mechanism that exposes us to …to them.
I needed to ask, ‘Why am I seeking answers to some of these questions? I know what I should do and how I should behave. The Scriptural instructions are clear. Is it not my intellectual and spiritual pride that causes me to peel back the veil that separates this world from another?’
Hope that’s not too convoluted.
For reference regarding the below texts.
‘What does the Catholic Church teach about the the Nag Hammadi texts?’
‘For the sake of thoroughness, it’s worth pointing out that the Catholic Canon was established in the Council of Hippo in 393 and affirmed during the Council of Trent. The Nag Hammadi texts basically just fall under the radar of Catholic teaching. This, however, is not to say that Catholics are forbidden or discouraged from reading them. In fact, archaeological and literary analysis of the texts is a popular form of busywork for monks in various orders.’
https://www.quora.com/What-does-the-Catholic-Church-teach-about-the-the-Nag-Hammadi-texts
From memory, they became public (via the secret black market in antiquities) only in 1947.
It is certainly a tough test to become aware of these things and stay on the right path. However, I would disagree that knowing about them allows them more entry; I would say instead that knowing about them reveals things which are already happening, but can seem new simply due to a lack of discernment.
A useful illustration of what I mean is if you lived in a dark room with the lights off your whole life. Upon turning on the light and discovering a box in the room, you could then ask yourself–was this box really here all along, or did turning on this light cause the box to appear?
It was there all along, of course, but you had no way of knowing about it–or reason to know about it–until the light went on.
That said, I do agree that staying focused on occult topics brings them into materialization through one’s attention to a certain extent. That’s why for me the important point is simply to understand how it works, what the Enemy’s goals and ploys are, and how to protect yourself and humanity from them.
Hi.
‘…I would say instead that knowing about them reveals things which are already happening, but can seem new simply due to a lack of discernment.’
I sometime use the analogy of bacteria, it was always there, it always behaved in a certain way. However, when the human race become aware of it, the world, and our behaviour in it, changes; though nothing about our environment has actually changed.
However, the analogy breaks down when we realise that a psychosomatic reaction can kill you stone dead.
I will agree that there is little to no practicality to it, but soaking in enough information (through the filter of scripture of course) will connect some dots as to the nature of the system we live in.
Hypothetical question – while I agree that some things are not meant to be known (and that some knowledge will inevitably corrupt) – Would it make sense that if some people understand and work with the unseen forces in the world for their own ends, that others who have stumbled upon this same knowledge have a responsibility to defend? Either through spreading truth or through spiritual warfare? This is in fact going on from a number of angles in the ranks of the Freemasons, Jesuits, and most likely others as well. For the record, Valentin Tomberg addresses this in ‘Meditations on the Tarot,’ his ultimate message being that we must submit our wills to that of God through Jesus, it’s much less an occult book than it is a Christian treatise from a former occultist.
Hi.
‘Would it make sense that if some people understand and work with the unseen forces in the world for their own ends, that others who have stumbled upon this same knowledge have a responsibility to defend?
Either through spreading truth or through spiritual warfare?’
Good question!
One some of use are obliged to face.
Cheers sir, my experiences have been the same. Thank you for your response.
‘…my experiences have been the same.’
Interesting.
Good to speak to you.
God bless.
Lucis Trust, originally called Lucifer Trust.
Throw in Benjamin Creme, Share International, and Maitreya.
“According to Benjamin Creme, The Ascended Masters live in a dimension that hovers over the Gobi Desert (Shamballa), are led by Sanat Kumara, which Theosophist Dane Rudyar referred to as “King Satan.” The world has been continually infiltrated by Theosophists, with what they believe to be consciousness-altering “light” in order to prepare us for the unity necessary to receive Sanat Kumara as our world leader and true spiritual identity. The next expected avatar who will bridge the gap between western and eastern mysticism will supposedly be Maitreya, who is one of the higher Kumaras, who will usher in the wide reception of Sanat Kumara.”
“According to Creme, Maitreya descended in July 1977 from His ancient retreat in the Himalayas and took up residence in the Indian-Pakistani community of London. He has been living and working there, seemingly as an ordinary man, His true status known to relatively few. He has been emerging gradually into full public view so as not to infringe humanity’s free will.”
“At the earliest possible moment, Maitreya will demonstrate His true identity. On the Day of Declaration, the international television networks will be linked together, and Maitreya will be invited to speak to the world.
We will see His face on television, but each of us will hear His words telepathically in our own language as Maitreya simultaneously impresses the minds of all humanity. Even those who are not watching Him on television will have this experience.
At the same time, hundreds of thousands of spontaneous healings will take place throughout the world. In this way we will know that this man is truly the World Teacher for all humanity.”
[Hundreds of thousands of healings sounds good to me, but in a world of 7.5 billion people?]
Anyway, this will issue in the New World Order, according to Creme. It’s interesting that UN leaders Boutros-Ghali & Annan, the Dalai Lama, and Prince Charles have all contributed articles to Creme’s Share International magazine.
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge/Creme_Maitreya.htm
These ‘developments’ have been nurtured via the ‘evil in high places’ we are warned about in Scripture.
I’m just another voice on the internet…but for what it’s worth I have direct personal experience of ‘the occult’ and high level Secret Intelligence being one and the same.
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It runs in families, down the generations.
Occult & intelligence together, see John Dee in England in the 16th century.
Exactly.
Twas ever so.
Yes I know all about Creme as well. He veers off into a UFO type of cult. I’ve already written him off as just another front of the NWO corrupting naive and vulnerable minds.
Interesting. I’ve also had an encounter with one of these types – it was not easy needless to say. It definitely runs in the family. And yes the intelligence agencies are absolutely involved. They are in the business of mind control and deception.
‘ It definitely runs in the family. And yes the intelligence agencies are absolutely involved.’
Indeed.
They recruit through the generations, through the same ‘bloodlines’.
I discovered this via a girlfriend.
Her family were as high level as it got, grandfather was involved in 1917, personally operating out in Russia.
Her brother was thus employed & she would drop hints about ‘files’.
She was very deeply into the occult. Loaded (wealthy), psychic, highly sexual.
The whole ‘9 yards’.
Quite a learning experience.
Interesting. I had an experience with the curator of an Art gallery/residence. I witnessed things that were definitely not human. This must have opened you up to the world of MkUltra and energy vampirism I would assume?
‘This must have opened you up to the world of MkUltra and energy vampirism I would assume?’
Well, when we got together, I though it was random.
This was about four years after the events mentioned below.
Only NOW during this exchange, do I wonder if our meeting was not a coincidence at all….
Funny how you can be blind sided.
I remained emotionally detached from this woman and so she never really ‘got her teeth’ into me, as it were.
She attended these ‘gatherings’ out in country houses, yep, full on ‘Eyes Wide Shut’ as per gentrified surroundings.
I think she said £7000 for two nights (15 years ago).
My suspicion is that she was ‘generating her energies’ there and not with MI5, for whom her brother was working & grandfather was a high operative 100 years ago.
Once in, always in, as they say.
I had no experience of her or anyone else draining me, but I remained aloof,
She wanted to ‘do a working’ on/with me but I put here off again and again.
Eventually relenting.
….nothing….nothing….nothing…BINGO.
Wow.
Glad I got away.
I’ve seen his newsletter. Readers wrote stuff like “I saw a UFO last Tuesday” and Creme would reply “That was the star!” (signals coming of Maitreya) or “I ran into a funny little old man” and Creme would reply “That was Maitreya in disguise!”.
I think he was a nutjob, dead now, but I think the Maitreya project is still on. It seems like a serious ‘open conspiracy’ to promote what some people would see as the Antichrist and usher in the NWO.
Here’s an article from March, from CounterPunch (“Fearless Muckraking since 1993”!) Maitreya: The Coming One For All Humanity” (strange placement for this article) that completely gushes about him and HPB, etc. Apparently Maitreya is “2,150 years (approximately)” old!
https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/03/03/maitreya-the-coming-one-for-all-humanity/
Interesting. I wanted to know more, but thought better of asking.
So was grandpa fomenting the revolution (or just monitoring)? That’d be a new one on me. (Hmm, here’s a 2001 Guardian article that claims MI-5 stopped Trotsky in Canada and MI-6 let him go. https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2001/jul/05/humanities.highereducation )
What happened? What was BINGO all about?
Hi.
‘He veers off into a UFO type of cult.’
Not regarding Creme (who’s name does not ring a bell), have you ever seen this?
Hi.
‘Interesting. I wanted to know more, but thought better of asking.’
I know what you mean ‘Wrong_century’.
This discussion is best over a coffee, not over the internet.
‘So was grandpa fomenting the revolution (or just monitoring)? That’d be a new one on me.’
OK, well, at the time I was reading deeply into ‘alternative’ or ‘real’ histories etc and I was exploring the real powers behind the October Revolution.
Briefly, the Bolsheviks were not a ‘front’ exactly, but they were a foreign financed power grab.
Trotsky was given huge amounts of cash in New York by Bankers to pay the wages of the ‘revolutionaries’.
‘The top Communist leaders have never been as hostile to their counterparts in the West, as the rhetoric suggests. They are quite friendly to the world’s leading financiers and have worked closely with them, when it suits their purposes. As we shall see in the following section, the Bolshevik revolution actually was financed by wealthy financiers in London and New York. Lenin and Trotsky were on the closest of terms with these moneyed interests both before and after the Revolution.’
http://www.wildboar.net/multilingual/easterneuropean/russian/literature/articles/whofinanced/whofinancedleninandtrotsky.html
The real Bolsheviks either…
A) Didn’t care.
Just like the IRA didn’t care which Americans financed them or why. Ditto Libyan money. They were the true believers and wound remain ‘pure’ despite temptation.
…or…
B) Were liquidated, like the Mensheviks, if they would object.
[Ha! My spell checker is trying to correct ‘Menshevik’ into ‘Bolshevik’…history can me cruel, but grammar is callous.]
The above is certainly not real ‘evidence’ of foreign bankers control of the USSR, but here’s some ‘circumstantial’ secondary evidence….
One.
‘Reborn Russia clears Soviet debt
Wiping out the Soviet era’s debt is a publicity coup for Putin
By Edmund Conway, Economics Editor12:01AM BST 22 Aug 2006
Comment: Putin’s Russia may be best for West
Russia has laid to rest the financial ghosts of the Cold War, paying back its entire Soviet-era debt to western countries.’
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/2945924/Reborn-Russia-clears-Soviet-debt.html
Got that?
So clever Putin….pays cash to the West?
The West that lent money to the Evil Empire that was pointing missiles at it?
How much money would you lend to someone pointing weapons at you?
I mean, how could you ever get them to pay it back?
That does not make sense.
Two
‘West’s “Golden Blockade” and Stalin’s “Piatiletki”
Western governments were initially hostile to the Soviet leadership and refused to recognize the new state. After the Entente intervention ingloriously failed, the Western powers – most notably Britain, France and the United States – tried to take over the USSR through economic pressure.’
https://sputniknews.com/russia/201511121029956744-holodomor-hoax-ussr-ukraine-starikov/
All sides tell a slightly different tale, point is the millions dead in the famine were not dead because the crop failed or the population expanded.
They all died because of the international finance/trade war between the new regime (created by foreign backers) and the foreign powers trying to strangle the regime.
(A little like Moscow backing Castro while America backed the Pay of Pigs invasion.)
As with Cuba, the revolutionaries had ‘instructors’ and ‘trainers’ who were actually very high level Special Ops military.
These special ops guys had to be politically aware, prepared to die (thrill seekers) and kill etc etc
They were shaping the future in secret.
They were guiding the banker’s investment.
‘Sidney George Reilly MC (c. 1873 – c. 1925), commonly known as the “Ace of Spies”, was a secret agent of the British Secret Service Bureau, the precursor to the modern British Secret Intelligence Service (MI6/SIS).[1] He is alleged to have spied for at least four different powers.[2]
Reilly’s growing fame during the early 1920s (before his capture and execution by Soviet agents in 1925) was due in part to his friend, the British diplomat and journalist Sir Robert Bruce Lockhart, who publicised their thwarted operation to overthrow the Bolshevik regime in 1918.’
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidney_Reilly
Were they fomenting or usurping revolution?
Or playing both sides to have influence with the victors?
Must dash….sorry visitors….I’ll resume if you’re interested….
Regs.
Thanks for lengthy reply.
The sputnik.com Holodomor Hoax link is very interesting, claims the famine was not a Stalin-engineered genocide, contrary to common ‘alternative’ understanding. Interesting coming from a Russian author, assuming he’s not some oligarch stooge.
I’m aware of bankers supporting the revolution. In fact I dug up a copy of British historian/economist Antony Sutton’s work Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution to see if there was a role for British Intelligence in his version of events:
http://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Sutton_Wall_Street_and_the_bolshevik_revolution-5.pdf
Certainly British Intelligence would act as a proxy for the Bank of England, but mostly Sutton blames New York bankers.
I found this, Chapter VI, p 63, “Consolidation and Support of the Revolution”:
“In late 1917, then…Prime Minister Lloyd George was indebted to powerful international armaments interests that were allied to the Bolsheviks and providing assistance to extend Bolshevik power in Russia. The British prime minister…was not then a free agent; Lord Milner was the power behind the scenes and…favorably inclined towards socialism and Karl Marx”.
Has an Appendix on “The Jewish-Conspiracy Theory of the Bolshevik Revolution”:
“It is significant that documents in the State Department files confirm that the investment banker Jacob Schiff, often cited as a source of funds for the Bolshevik Revolution, was in fact against support of the Bolshevik regime. This position, as we shall see, was in direct contrast to the Morgan-Rockefeller promotion of the Bolsheviks.
The persistence with which the Jewish-conspiracy myth has been pushed suggests that it may well be a deliberate device to divert attention from the real issues and the real causes. The evidence provided in this book suggests that the New York bankers who were also Jewish had relatively minor roles in supporting the Bolsheviks, while the New York bankers who were also Gentiles (Morgan, Rockefeller, Thompson) had major roles.”
So Sutton, who is big on revealing Western banks behind the Soviet Union, nevertheless downplays the involvement of Schiff, which is promoted at your “Who financed Lenin and Trotsky?” link.
Sutton also wrote The Best Enemy Money Can Buy and National Suicide: Military Aid to the Soviet Union, which tie into one of the points you made.
Hi.
Will read & respond tomorrow, been watching football (soccer?).
Regards.
“All sides tell a slightly different tale, point is the millions dead in
the famine were not dead because the crop failed or the population
expanded. They all died because of the international finance/trade
war between the new regime (created by foreign backers) and the foreign powers trying to strangle the regime.”
No, I can’t buy this. All food was confiscated in the Ukraine, not just the grain. Here’s a documentary if you can bear it.
I see this Sputnik article as an attempt to whitewash Soviet-era Russian atrocities.
[Sorry for the much delayed reply. I’ve been travelling overseas.]
That’s really interesting.
Thanks for the information.
‘The persistence with which the Jewish-conspiracy myth has been pushed suggests that it may well be a deliberate device to divert attention from the real issues and the real causes. ‘
That rings true on many levels.
For example, one reason for post WWI antisemitism in Germany was that actual German gentile war profiteers created a myth of Jewish war greed to cover their own tracks, so it’s an old idea.
Reading your post made me think of two things (don’t know why they didn’t occur before).
1)
‘The great grain robbery was the July 1972 purchase of 10 million tons of United States grain (mainly wheat and corn) by the Soviet Union at subsidized prices, which resulted in higher grain prices in the United States.’
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_grain_robbery
So, someone in America wanted to support the USSR & prevent it collapsing in the 1970s, even though it meant higher basic food prices for Americans.
I was once told a US politician objected so vehemently your President had to send paratroopers to load the grain onto ships!
Couldn’t find a ref. though.
More importantly, took some digging but………
2) Cutting edge tech transfers to the USSR by American Corporations.
‘How could a small investment banker become one
of the most powerful figures in the global oil trade?
During the Cold War, East-West trade was closely
interlinked with Soviet ‘active measures’ espionage.
Legendary secret agent businessmen, such as Armand
Hammer and Robert Maxwell, were only the tip of
the iceberg. Another phenomenon was the network
of the ‘firms of friends’, secretly or openly controlled
by Western Communist Parties, which traded with
Moscow on mutually beneficial conditions, and which
was used by the Soviets to channel money for the
subversion of the free world. Meanwhile, about 300
large US businesses worked together with the Soviets
in the secretive umbrella organization known as USUSSR
Trade and Economic Council (TEC). Eminent
Hoover Institution historian Anthony Sutton, who
investigated the TEC in the 1980s, described it as ‘a
formal joint Soviet-American apparatus to conduit
advanced technology with pure military applications
to the Soviet Union’ and directly accused its American
members of ‘treason’. The TEC, whose membership
list remained secret, was known to be backed by
then Vice President George W Bush and Commerce
Secretary Malcolm Baldridge. The president of that
organization was one James Giffen. On the Soviet side,
the TEC co-chairman was Vladimir Sushkov, a USSR
Deputy Minister for Foreign Trade.
Pavel Stroilov is a historian who smuggled a vast
secret archive of the Gorbachev era out of Russia.
This article was first published on the web: http://
frontpagemag.com
Food is one thing, it could be argued an unstable USSr was dangerous, I suppose.
However, tech with ‘..pure military applications..’ is a whole different thing entirely.
Who knows, it might be 100 years before the real connections and motivations are appreciated.
Regards ‘wrong.’
I can call you ‘wrong’?
😉
I was just quoting Sutton, I don’t know if Schiff was investing in the revolution or not.
Personally I wonder about the theory that the Balfour resolution was in exchange for Jewish pressure for US to join WWI.
Frontpage is a neocon site, I don’t trust their agenda. I think Maxwell was thought to be a Soviet spy but actually Mossad.
Did you watch my Holomodor video? The guy who says it’s a hoax is a historian but also a Russian conservative politician, probably doesn’t want Russia seen in a bad light. I trust the memories of the Ukrainians.
Hi.
‘Frontpage’ may well be a ‘front’ but that was also in ‘The Sailsbury Review’
http://www.salisburyreview.com/
That’s certainly not left wing in any sense. Roger Scruton is an editor for example (or was).
I’ve yet to hear anything negative about the Hover Institution or it’s Historical research; esp re Communism & it’s infiltration of American institutions. That’s where this research comes from.
I’ve not yet seen any of the vid.
I’ve really not had the time for days, I may be able to at the weekend but I would be stunned if the famine was anything but what we understand it to be.
Stalin’s wife blew her brains out in protest at the organised murder.
What’s the ‘best evidence’ in the vid?
Eye witness reports from two survivors, accounts from Russian and UK historians. The background of mass murders and deportations and elimination of Kulaks and nationalists.
It’s kind of dramatic and hard to watch, but people need to know how evil the Soviets were. I remember a few months ago pictures were going around of cannibalism during that time, very horrific.
Well anyway besides some video, there seems to be a lot of evidence out there, even Wikipedia presents it.
Soviet Authorities put up signs that read ‘It is wrong to eat your own children.’
It was a way of twisting the knife.
Children are always the first hunted and murdered in these situations.
(No-one ever disputed the liquidation of the Kulaks. They were identified as official state ‘enemies of the people/revolution’. Their destruction was in broad daylight and accompanied by propaganda in urban areas.)
That’s what Islam intends to do. No thanks. Don’t need it, don’t want.
Yes to all of this article. I believe strongly that Satan presents today in liberal, pro -choice, pro LGBT agenda . The same agenda that supports all these takes mine and your tax to pay for illegitimate children and the apartments of women with loose morals who further the rotton cycle of degeneracy.
Looking good General.
(all things considered)
TOGTFO
Caesarion – son of Cleopatra and Julius Caesar was Jesus.
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Sangreal
What. In. The. Faq. is this article??
“It’s as true today as it was 2,000 years ago that spirits use human beings as vessels by which to carry out their will.”
Sorry, I must have missed the memo where RoK became another spiritual shit kumbaya circle ..
The New Testament view is that it is the body of sin that motivates our evil actions, and sinning leads to more sin and then death. All unrighteousness is sin. Faith and obeying the scriptures allows one to cast off the old sinful man, but everyone sins. The idea is to sin less.
Hillary in her white pantsuit, the pope in his white suit. Fake angels of light. Hillary, mostly about corruption, fooled half of America into thinking she is someone good.
The pope plays saint every day when his real goal is a Jesuit plan for world government based in Europe, with a world religion formed from an alliance of Rome and Mecca.
The book of theology with a modern perspective I prefer is this one
http://theologicalvignettes.com/
If anyone reads this article and begins to wonder whether there is demonic activity occurring in your own life, this video by Josh Coen is extremely useful and spiritually profitable. He has a deep grasp of these topics and explains them well.
A clear, concise and relaxed presentation, thanks Josh/Michael.
I’m not sure what you meant by “Josh/Michael,” but I assure you he and I are not the same person. He’s one of a very small number of YouTube pastors that I watch (the other main one is Steven Anderson, who is also not me).
I mean thanks to you both!
Him for producing & you for forwarding.
Ah, you are most welcome. His stuff, especially before he joined up with Chris LaSala, is some of the best preaching I’ve seen.
I like his demeanor.
as opposed to his demon ear
Boom Boom!
Steven Anderson the hate monger from Arizona ?
I’ll grant you that his occasional hateful attitude is unbecoming a Christian and a pastor. That aside, he preaches more truth and power than the vast majority of evangelists I’ve seen.
And plus, nobody is perfect or expected to be.
I cannot remember the exact wording, but if I recall correctly, there is a passage in Daniel about an angel who could not pass down a road because one of those princes, who was exceedingly powerful, would not let him pass. The angel then called upon Michael for help. I take it that that the passage in Daniel refers to one of those prinicpalities, yes?
It certainly looks that way. I just Googled this to see what it was about, and it’s Daniel 10. All of the translations I’m looking at simply use the term “prince,” except the New Living Translation, which states:
“But for twenty-one days the spirit prince of the kingdom of Persia blocked my way. Then Michael, one of the archangels, came to help me, and I left him there with the spirit prince of the kingdom of Persia.”
I am not sure why that’s the only translation to clearly designate the prince as a spirit, but based on the context of the passage of something the archangel Michael is fighting against, it makes sense to me.
Umm, we are finite beings, that being said we are fucked and are going to die anyway….who needs religion to keep reminding us of that fact and piling on the guilt. if you cannot find your own way to living the best life you can, BLAMING some saintly diety or demonic entity is not going to change things…
Great point, Sir.
Sadly mankind has deluded itself during it’s living years to think they are eternal. Because of that, they fall victim to the fear of what awaits them after the death of the body, and also to all the practitioners who magnify those fears and thusly mold how they live.
“It’s as true today as it was 2,000 years ago that spirits use human beings as vessels by which to carry out their will.”
It is? If true wouldn’t some of the cash-strapped churches be able to cultivate a profitable side-line performing exorcisms?
‘Leading US exorcists explain huge increase in demand for the Rite – and priests to carry them out
In the US, over the past 10 years, the number of official priest exorcists has more than quadrupled from 12 to 50.
But for two of America’s most active exorcists – Father Gary Thomas, whose training in Rome was chronicled in Matt Baglio’s book The Rite: The Making of a Modern Exorcist, and Father Vincent Lampert, whose work was depicted on Paranormal Witness – it is an ongoing struggle to keep up with the demand. ‘
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/26/leading-us-exorcists-explain-huge-increase-in-demand-for-the-rit/
Not entirely sure The Church does need the money, but I’m sure they will appreciate the thought.
It’s interesting that the Scientologists claim that body and mental issues are caused by ‘body thetans’, spirits camped out in your body, that they claim to expunge with their processing. (I don’t endorse them, by the way.)
So funny when I read these Jesus freak articles right after “How to Bang a Bitch in Less Than Minutes” articles on ROK. Utter hypocrisy.
God isn’t real. The author of this article is mentally ill. If he was talking to the TV, we could get him some help. Unfortunately, society tells him it’s ok to believe this shit…and collect money for it.
But you can bang a bitch in less than five minutes…if you buy my kratom.
You must know the Christians here are not trying to gain sexual access to the maximum number of young females.
C’mon Mr Dollar!
Take yourself seriously & engage in more serious discussion.
FWIW I read an account here the other week of a contributor pursuing meaningless sex with young Ukrainian girls.
Here, I searched for it it for you………
When the writer explained he had achieved sexual intercourse with a ‘nice’ young Ukrainian girl he had met earlier that day, I thought it was revolting and rather sad.
Hypocritical, empty and unmanly.
Christians are not driven by the singular need to orgasm inside a woman, any woman, as much as possible.
…but you knew that, right?
Regards.
Christians are driven by need to force their delusion onto others.
Like you said, hypocritical, empty and unmanly.
As far as I can tell…
I wrote an article which you clicked on, read, and decided to comment on completely of your own free will. You have commented several times, in fact, all with the same general tone and message.
Since I did not come to your house and demand you read my article or comment on it, it seems that you are the one doing the “forcing” here.
Great article! “Remember that the Enemy does not need worship to win; he only needs you not to worship Go” hard words but true as well
I remember there was a small movement that was the derived from classic Bailey/Blavatsky theosophy: the ashtar galactic command. They ranked the “masters of wisdom” or the “light brothers” as Ashtar > Sananda > Maitreya > Christ.
the moment I saw their Cesare borgias depictions of their “ascended masters” I saw right through it.
“Commander Ashtar: Greetings … This was quite a coup we managed,
and first I want to let everyone know that the passengers on Flight 370
are absolutely delighted and happy, spending time – yes I’m going to
tell you where they are. I bet some of you have guessed. They are indeed
in Hollow Earth.”
Phew, thanks!
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‘I remember there was a small movement that was the derived from classic Bailey/Blavatsky theosophy: the ashtar galactic command. They ranked the “masters of wisdom” or the “light brothers” as Ashtar > Sananda > Maitreya > Christ.’
These people were/are very influential in the CIA. Certainly in the 1970/80.
A book called, ‘The Stargate Conspiracy’ details this. Pity about the attention grabbing title as it is a sober account.
Just searched for the book & they now have a website.
Didn’t know that.
http://www.picknettprince.com/books/stargateconspiracy/stargate.htm
Very interesting comment, thank you. Regarding your question, I only lived on the East Coast before I converted so I unfortunately do not have any recommendations. Surely there must be something worth attending out there…seek and (hopefully) ye shall find!
To the atheists: it doesnt matter if in the end, all religions are wrong. Youd might as well pick Christianity because its the fundamental philosophy that created the greatest civilization on earth. It encourages family values. It strives to keep people pure, honest, and working together for the common good.
If you choose christianity, you pass away, and its wrong, what did you miss? Even an old atheist admits Drugs, alcohol, promiscuity or money dont equal happiness. People of all different cultures admit that happiness comes from loving relationships.
Yeah the old testament is weird. That was kind of a wild west situation before God decided to become human and die for us.
The media tries to make serious christians out to be racist hillbillies but thats not accurate. Theyre family centered, stable people who are usually happier in my experience. Many are latinos and black as well. Its the churches trying to be cool that mess up and raise feminized women and weak beta boys.
Im preaching to the choir though because im a total player… I just havent found Gods match for me yet! Or maybe there are more than one….
Christianity is the cradle of western civilisation.
Everything of value came because of the Faith, nothing else.
For example, there are millions of ‘Aryan’ people living in, for example; Iran.
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Where are their power stations, airports, motorways and Patent Offices?
As is widely known, the Nazis searched for the root of their ‘race’ in the Himalayas.
Among the mud huts and dirt trails.
Without Christianity, humanity only ever goes around and around in circles, creating luxury for it’s tiny elites amid squalor for everyone else.
Look at everywhere the Faith has been abandoned.
See the poverty, degeneracy, corruption and violence.
As day follows night.
And the Romans and the Greek?
Not a civilisation?
And totally without Yahve.
Hi. Will respond tomorrow.
Even thugh ancient Greek and Romans were advanced civilizations your modern self would probably still find them dirty. Roman bathhouses would probably be considered a sanitation hazard in our modern world. But they are part of the foundation of Western civilization.
Hello.
Sorry for the long delay.
You ask a good question and my post invited such a question.
I do not regard Roman civilisation as of any value for a host of reasons & not just that it was built on a slave system that employed sadistic murder as the ‘oil’ in it’s engines.
Not just for that reason.
As you will be aware, once the Empire was established, not even ‘great patrician’ families were safe from the .whims of ‘God Emperors’.
When the official Head of State & God of your Empire can arrive at a wedding, rape the wife and sodomise the groom in public, for a laugh, you are not ‘civilised’.
The early Romans (Republicans) would murder their own children by exposure to snow etc in case there was not enough food later in Winter. To be clear, this was IN CASE and was a common practice.
etc etc
For me ‘civilisation’ is not simply ‘organisation’.
If it were, then ants would be the most ‘civilised’ creatures on Earth.
Regards.
Everything that came before could be regarded as ‘foundational’.
I say worthy civilisation is not just art or organisation.
Without respect for the individual human and their freedom, the ancient ‘civilisations’ were just exercises in organised violence that benefited a minuscule number of men.
Evidence?
They were destroyed and never revived.
Yes, slavery, glorified prostitution and violence was part of the ancient world. I do find it interesting some of these men on this site think back then was some sort of paradise. Our society has our issues but so did the ancient world. In fact we are embracing the sexual perversion of the ancient world. The 1950s no doubt was great for a working man with a faithful wife. However, a small number of women in that time frame did have the reality of their husbands running off. I also doubt they would want to be a black man at that time frame.
‘In fact we are embracing the sexual perversion of the ancient world.’
Indeed, this is true.
Cross dressing was also an ancient sign that a civilisation was sick.
Sorry, but I am not choosing Christianity because it is a 2000 year old Jewish death cult.
Your womanly feelings about your faith have nothing to do with universal happiness either.
It is your opinion, your feelings, nothing more, nothing less.
You don’t get to allow your cult to dictate to me.
Otherwise, you are no different than ISIS and the social justice warrior left.
Amen brother !
I was not aware that hate and hypocrisy were family values.
You’re wrong. The New World Religion-State is Satan’s final masterpiece. It will lead to persecution against dissenters of Romano-Catholic faith, according to Revelation 13:15. Keep the Protestant Reformation alive!
What I find fascinating about fundamental Christians is that they don’t even understand their own religion and can’t defend their own moral philosophy.
Worst than that, not a single one could answer the question of why am I a Christian and what convinced me to become a Christian, and how being a Christian makes one morally superior to everybody else.
I have yet to meet one Christian who even practices basic morality as a human being.
Amen brother, my point exactly.
Modern day christians are like the prophets of Baal.
They think the more trouble they cause and the more noise they make, then ” god ” will hear and answer them. Christians are more like the fruits of the flesh than the fruits of the spirit.
The author of this article is an example of this.
They think they are not only too important to obey the law like the bible teaches them to do, but they think they too important to obey their own scripture as well.
Pride goeth before a fall.
The antics of the church are plenty of proof of it’s falsehood.
You said, “Christians are more like the fruits of the flesh than the fruits of the spirit. The author of this article is an example of this. They think they are not only too important to obey the law like the bible teaches them to do, but they think they too important to obey their own scripture as well.”
In which part of the article, specifically, did I advise people not to obey the lay or Scripture?
Global Islam is going to plunge the planet into the World War 3. Notice anywhere where Islam is present there is conflict and strife.
> Global Religion
> Christianity
pick one.
Some day, all souls will bend the metaphorical knee. I’m just hoping to help win some more over to the side of the fence they will want to be on when that happens!
sure they will bend the knee to my global religion. i am a horrifying person and if they dont, well, I will find them when they die and reincarnate them as a pig, as I’ve already done to several for failing to cede to my dominance. let’s hope those pesky, stupid, asshole, condescending, jew on a stick worshipping christians realise that their religion is the cause of much suffering and the original cause of white genocide and the cause of many whites being psychopaths in the modern day and that the pain and suffering they have caused to the world is sufficient motivation for them to finally stop trying to debate me with their pitiful arguments, underscored by little other than a desire to not be reincarnated (spoiler alert: it happens to everyone) and go to an imaginary heaven. thanks for playing, you lost. time to bow to my church). I know you & many other jewish interests are going to cuckianity as a “fall back plan” because communism didn’t exactly work out, but I see right through your aspirations and I warn you sternly, DO NOT promote your garbage any more. It won’t be allowed under my global theocratic dictatorship.
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Charlie Hebdo finally got the memo, Islam spreads death and destruction. Somehow they didn’t get it when Muslim terrorists murdered their own staff two years and 7 months ago. It took them nearly 3 years to figure it out.
Everyone getting along would be a wonderful thing, but the very nature of religion prevents this.
Religion makes it’s followers think they are better than anyone else, even those of the same religion but a different sect.
The last line in your article is proof of this, nothing is wrong with a global religion ” so long as it is the one Jesus preached.”
Typical arrogant christian hypocrite.
There is no reason whatsoever that your fairy tale is better than the next one, and many times it is worse.
Christianity is the second worst disaster to ever befall mankind.
Christians, liberals, and Muslims are all the same thing, hate filled, hypocritical, willfully ignorant, control freaks who erroneously think they have the right to tell others how to live.
The bible tells us that by their fruits ye shall know them, and the attitude problem displayed in this article is living proof that christianity is false and man made.
RELIGION IS THE PROBLEM, NOT THE ANSWER !!! There will never be world peace until the human race grows up and does away with religion.
Typically, the only people I meet who lash out at Christians like that were raised in dogmatic Catholic households and later rebelled against everything they were spoon-fed during childhood. I actually empathize with it and understand the desire to rebel against one’s upbringing quite a bit–is this the case for how you arrived at where you are?
While a bit dated today, Constance Cumbey’s “Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow” covers the New Age movement that didn’t end up big, but they are still the snake in the grass.
not quite
Alice Bailey and Annie Besant’s sole goal was to muddy the waters so that HPB’s legacy would be lost amongst the noise. Isis Unveiled is the only book you need to read