Two Fathers

Timothy went with his fathers for a day of shopping at the mall to decorate his new room. He was getting tired halfway through but perked up when they suggested he create his own teddy bear at the mall’s Build-A-Bear store.

“You can create any bear you want,” said Randy.

Timothy was at first overwhelmed with the options but decided on a hard robot shell for his bear, making it seem more like a killer teddy cyborg. He had in mind to create an indestructible bear that was strong and mean, able to defend against bad people like his biological father, who would place him over his lap and whip his 9-year-old behind with a belt for reasons so random that he could never figure out how to avoid them. He was away from that now, and his two new fathers were going to give him the love that his abusive father and absentee mother never gave him.

As Timothy constructed his cyborg bear, Randy pointed out a rainbow-colored bear to his husband, Michael. “Isn’t that cute?” Randy said. “Hey Timothy, what do you think of this rainbow bear?”

“I don’t like rainbows.”

“Why not?” Michael coolly replied.

“It has too many girl colors. I like my robot bear.” Michael’s eyes opened wide but Randy interrupted him, telling Timothy he could build any bear he wanted.

Timothy had been disappointed so many times in his life that he didn’t know what to expect from Randy and Michael. This wasn’t helped by the confusing arrangement of having two dads. He leaned towards using “Dad” on Randy, the more masculine of the two since Michael was on estrogen therapy to eventually become a Michelle, but in the end he stuck to using their first names. As long as he could avoid the beatings and the yelling that took place in his former home, or the dirtiness that was his temporary stay in foster care, he would be happy to call them whatever they wanted.

Luckily for Timothy, Randy and Michael were stable, successful, intelligent adults. Besides the fact that there were both men, Timothy couldn’t have been more blessed in finding a couple who were so willing to take care of an unlucky child.

But that love couldn’t immediately undo a lifetime of abuse. Very early on, Timothy displayed anti-social behavior in school. He had trouble paying attention to his teacher’s instructions. At recess he simply wanted to play alone. When time came for parent-student conferences, Randy and Michael were told it was worth trying an ADHD drug to help him with his attention problems. His parents respected the power of pharmaceuticals; Michael was on the hormone therapy while Randy had gone on stints of Xanax during some especially difficult times in his life. It was worth a shot just to see if it would have a positive effect on Timothy, and if not they would pull him off it. His well-being was their utmost concern.

The medication worked. Within two weeks, Timothy would provide an unblinking stare at his teacher while she barreled through the curriculum. He did well enough to get B’s and C’s, an exceptional feat for a kid of his unfortunate background.

Timothy’s favorite part of the school day was, of course, recess. He would get away from his classmates and go to the far end of the park and place bugs on the back of his hand and watch them crawl away. There wasn’t much else to do except kick a couple balls around, because several years before they removed the jungle gym. Too many kids were falling off, leading to parent complaints. Parents also complained about dodgeball because in a game of thirty kids, only one was the winner. All the losing kids would suffer an unnecessary blow to their self-esteem, making it more difficult for them to compete in a cutthroat world where 100 SAT points made or break getting into a prestigious college.

A little girl named Magda walked up to Timothy one day while he was playing with bugs. “What are you doing?” she asked.

“Nothing.”

“What is that crawling on your hand?”

“It’s a caterpillar.”

“Will it bite you?” Magda asked. She stood several feet away from Timothy as if scared the caterpillar would jump on her.

“No. It tickles when it walks on you. Do you want to touch it?”

“No, it’s gross!”

“It’s not gross. And it won’t hurt you.”

“Okay but if it bites me I’m going to scream.” Magda sat beside Timothy and he let the caterpillar crawl over his hand and onto hers. She giggled upon feeling the little legs gripping her skin.

“Cool!” Magda said.

“I like the caterpillars. There are beetles here, too. They have red shells with black dots on them. Sometimes they are stuck together and you can pull them apart and they keep going.”

The caterpillar fell off of Magda’s hand. “What is your name?” she asked.

“Timothy.”

“I’m Magda.”

“Okay. Do you want to see some ants?”

“Ew!” But Magda relented and poked a stick in the ant mound like Timothy showed her. It made sense that Magda and Timothy got along since they were both new in school. She tried hard to make friends with the other girls but didn’t quite fit in. As the daughter of Polish immigrants who barely spoke English, her accent was slightly different from everyone else’s. She was seen as an outsider, something her twice weekly ESL class reminded her of.

Timothy didn’t think of her as a friend as much as someone he could show bugs to. He was so used to being alone and wrapped up in his own world that he never felt the need to meet other kids. In fact, Magda was his first friend.

The bullying started after the school’s 6th Annual Multicultural Happiness Day. In the back of class sat most of the parents, including Randy and Michael. They beamed with pride as their son performed in a Thanksgiving Day skit where Native Americans and Pilgrims feasted together in peace, patiently teaching each other about their respective cultures. The day was a success, like it was every year.

The next day at recess, a group of five kids came to where Magda and Timothy were playing.

“Hey gay boy,” a girl named Allison said. Timothy looked, not because he knew what gay meant, but because she couldn’t have been talking to Magda.

“Hey gay boy, I’m talking to you. You’re gay!”

“What’s gay?” Timothy asked.

“Your parents are gay. So you will be gay.”

“I don’t understand.”

“You have two fathers. That’s not normal!” Timothy just shrugged. It was better having two fathers than one who beats him. Besides, Randy and Michael were good to him. He didn’t especially care for the ritalin he was talking, because it always made him thirsty, but he was learning a lot in school and his math was good. He even got his first A on a quiz.

Allison’s friends added more insults. They called him all sorts of cruel names, as kids are apt to do.

“Leave him alone,” Magda said.

“You are his gay… girlfriend!” Then Allison pushed Magda, causing her to topple over. Timothy looked at Magda and saw that she was upset. Timothy shook the bugs off his hands and stood up besides Allison. He made a fist with his right hand, closed his eyes, and swung wildly. He heard the scream more than he felt the impact he made with her left ear, which instantly turned scarlet. Allison cupped her ear and ran away crying. Five minutes later, a teacher came and asked Timothy if he hit Allison. “Yes,” he said.

A note went home with him that afternoon. Randy and Michael were disturbed that Timothy was acting out on violent tendencies. “Is he emulating his father?” Michael wondered.

“We can’t let him think that hitting people will solve problems in life,” Randy declared.

“Timothy, come here, dear,” Michael said. Timothy came from his room with his head down.

“Is it true you hit a girl today?”

“Yes, but she was mean.”

“Timothy, you can never hit a girl. You are a big strong boy, much stronger than any girl, and you could really hurt them because boys are stronger than girls. Do you understand?”

“But she started it!”

Randy decided to be more stern. “Timothy, you must never lay your hand on a girl again. This is not acceptable, do you understand?” He pointed his finger in Timothy’s face. “If you do it again we will have to punish you.” Would they take away his cyborg bear? He sleeps with it every night, because it makes him feel safe and strong. His lower lip started to quiver and Randy was pleased that his message was getting through.

“Repeat after me,” Randy said, “I will never hit a girl again.”

“I will never hit a girl again,” Timothy parroted.

“Now say it again.”

“I promise never to hit a girl again.”

“Good, very good. You can go to your room now and think about the wrong you did today.”

Timothy was confused at why he was punished, since Allison attacked first, but if all he had to do to get the approval of his caring parents was not hit a girl, he believed he could do it. He just hoped that Allison wouldn’t bother him anymore so he could play with his bugs.

Randy and Michael threw a vegan dinner party one Saturday evening for six of their friends. Each guest brought a prepared dish and bottle of wine. Much drink and merriment was had by all while Randy and Michael joyfully paraded their new son. He was doted on and given small presents and lavished with praise about how handsome he was. Timothy thought the guests talked strangely, but they were nice people who smiled a lot and did him no harm.

After a couple hours, once the wine experienced the height of its effect, one of the guests looked at Timothy and yelled, “Makeover!” He escorted Timothy into the bedroom and picked out an outfit that Michael owned, a purple blouse and conservative black dress. A basic makeup kit was also found. Ten minutes later Timothy walked out of the room to shrieks of delight. “He looks like a little woman!” one guest said.

“He’s so adorable!” another added.

“I don’t know if I approve of this,” Randy said, smiling broadly as he took another sip of wine, remembering the last time that Michael wore that outfit during an exciting sexual role play.

Michael was most proud of his son’s appearance, piling on compliments about how great he looked. Timothy felt so valued to be approved by so many adults that once the clothing was removed and the makeup washed from his face, he didn’t even need to hug his cyborg teddy in order to fall asleep.

One day after school, Magda tried to grab Timothy’s hand. He snatched it away and ran to his school bus, hiding in the back. This reaction is to be expected from a boy who never received physical affection, not even from his new parents, who were not yet comfortable touching him in a way that would suggest he was their own. Thankfully, the hand-holding incident was forgotten in a day, and Magda and Timothy were playing once again during recess in their little corner of the park.

A couple weeks later, on the bus ride to school, someone told Timothy, “Allison is going to get you today.” Timothy didn’t think much of the threat, but halfway through recess Allison and a squad of four of her friends surrounded him. “I don’t like you,” Allison yelled, and pushed Timothy with all her might. His instinct was to push back, but he remembered what Randy and Michael made him promise, so he did nothing. This further encouraged Allison and she levied a punch to his stomach. He crouched over in pain. She picked up a long stick from the ground.

“Stop it!” Magda yelled. “Stop hurting him!”

“Hold him!” Allison screamed, as if possessed by a demon. Her goons held Timothy down and Allison started lashing the stick upon Timothy’s head and face, quickly breaking blood on his forehead and lower lip. Timothy’s body went limp. He felt the pain on his body but floated out of it like he has done so many times before. He could only hear Magda’s voice, begging for them to stop, and when he looked at her he saw tears streaming down her face. This is when he began to cry, not from his pain, but from Magda’s, because she was his only friend and wanted to hold his hand when no one else would.

“We should sue the fucking school!” Randy told Michael. They patched up the cuts on Timothy’s body and gave him a big bowl of chocolate ice cream to help cheer his spirit and soothe the wound on his lip.

“They suspended Allison for two weeks,” Michael said. “This punishment is unheard of in elementary school. I think they are doing all they can.”

“He has just been through so much. If he’s not getting hurt at the hands of his father, it’s now at the hands of some bully.”

“But at least he didn’t initiate the violence. The note from the school says it absolutely was not his fault.”

Timothy walked up to them and said, “I didn’t hit her. She was hitting me with the stick but I didn’t hit her back, because she’s a girl.”

Michael said, “That’s great, Timothy, because she got in trouble and can’t go to school for two weeks, but you can go tomorrow and continue learning and playing. When someone uses violence they are punished. Those who are nice and kind are rewarded when they do what’s right, like you will be.”

Randy meekly interjected, “But if the girl grabs a stick, maybe Timothy should defend himself.”

“And so you want him to have a sword fight with a little girl? If he has that mentality once he gets older, he could end up killing someone. It’s best to just let the authorities deal with it. His wounds will heal in a couple days while Allison will have this on her permanent school record. If she does it again, she will be expelled.” Michael looked at Timothy and said, “You did the right thing today. I’m so sorry that she hurt you, but everything will be okay.”

Allison stopped bullying him, but other bullies took her place. There was no more physical violence, but the verbal taunts were endless, and Timothy never fought back, only ensuring they would continue. His schoolwork suffered and his grades slipped, in spite of an increase in dosage to his medication. Randy and Michael were getting frustrated at his declining performance and thought a tougher stance would be in order. How will he get into Stanford if he’s already behind on his multiplication tables?

When Timothy brought home a report card with three D’s, his fathers had a stern talk with him about the importance of education and how unacceptable his grades were. There were mentions about enrolling him in a special school, hiring tutors, or limiting his play time in favor of more study. The phrase “you’re falling behind” was often used and now Timothy began to get worried that their anger at him would only get worse. Randy and Michael always told Timothy that they loved him, but how about if they stopped loving him because of his bad grades? What would happen to him?

While his fathers talked about what to do, Timothy slipped into their room. A few minutes later, he emerged wearing the exact same outfit of Michael’s that the dinner party guest had dressed him in. He tried to put on makeup but was not especially skilled. His attempt at eye shadow went as far back as his temple and he managed to get blush in his hair. When Michael first saw Timothy, he hugged him for being so adorable. He instructed Timothy not to move and then went to grab his camera to take pictures. Randy let out a couple laughs and for at least that day, they completely forgot about his bad grades. There was no more talk about reducing his play time. For the first time in his life, Timothy felt like he finally knew how to get love from adults. While Magda’s friendship was real and her accent sweet, it was parental love that he needed most.

At the next dinner party, Michael went on to tell his friends how Timothy was just like them, something that Randy didn’t argue with. Soon the gifts arriving from guests weren’t toys, but clothes in pretty pastel and pink colors.

(This short story was originally published on Roosh V.)

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265 thoughts on “Two Fathers”

  1. “Randy and Michael threw a vegan dinner party”
    Saw it coming a mile away.

        1. I thought it was bite the pillow while getting the chocolate highway hot beef injection.

    1. If the story included any mention of a driveway full of bikes, Subarus, and Priuses, my surprise level would have been zero.

        1. I don’t get it.I’m not American.
          Isn’t being 4WD,Loud,having awful MPG for a japanese car is just opposite of what gay,hipster etc crowd may like?

        2. He’s not referring to the WRX models, he’s referring to the Subaru wagons that have become the picture perfect Lesbo-Mobile.

    2. the day science invents nutritional pills for the whole day, it will be considered morally reprehensible to eat defenseless plants.

    3. Ever since I went vegan I’ve had more sex (thats straight sex) and stronger, longer lasting erections. I feel like I’m in my mid 20s rather than mid 30s.

  2. less a commentary on homosexual family dynamics and more a broader introspect on modern society that gets a lot of details right. if you still think we’re evolving or progressing on the whole, you’re dead wrong.

  3. Kinda funny how gay guys almost never use the shortened version of their name. I’ve met several gay “Michaels” but never a gay “Mike”. Sadly, this “Timothy” will never be known as “Tim”.

  4. Roosh writes well. Intelligent and believable piece. In the first instance what is wrong with the situation is the fact that there was never any debate or real consideration given to the needs of children when gay adoption etc was pushed through. Even if there are studies that support the phenomenon etc (whatever you think of those) its clear that it was always politically motivated evolution rather than one that was expected to benefit children. In fact that goes for pretty much every kind of social and familial change in the last century. Children come last in every sense

    1. Exactly. As I said in a comment above:
      Right now, it is usually the middle to upper-middle class, yuppie gay and
      lesbian couples who have adopted kids, or who have had children through
      3rd party surrogates.. and supposedly the claim is that the children
      turn out fine according to some “studies”.. but what is “fine” exactly? That they go to college and have successful careers? All this tells you is that the gay and lesbian couples who have been able to afford to adopt or have kids through 3rd party surrogates have been those who are higher up on the socio-economic strata. Has there been a sufficiently large data set to give you a conclusive answer? How could there be with such a small percentage of gay people in society to begin with, with an even smaller percentage of those actually interested in “gay marriage” and having children? How do we know these children haven’t missed out on something crucial when it is impossible to do a proper study with a control group where the same children are raised by their biological male and female parents and then doing a comparison. That’s the only way you can make a proper comparison. When it comes to human affairs, it is always wiser to trust tradition and natural, biological patterns that have evolved over thousands of generations rather than some radical experiment of denying children their biological parents out of a misplaced plea to “egalitarianism.” This is not ethically defensible. You can make a strong ethical case that this is simply not in the best interest of the children.

      1. “How do we know these children haven’t missed out on something crucial”
        Not only is much of the research likely to be ideologically slanted, but part of that determines how the researchers determine quality of parenting. If the value system for measuring a happy, stable childhood is itself feminised then its inevitable that the results will favour ‘progressive’ feminised parenting. Moreover parenting is now considered ‘gender-neutral’ – i.e. along a continuum of ‘caring’ parenthood – which is really nothing more than a measure of motherhood. They are simply not measuring fatherhood in any meaningful sense. The research is contaminated.
        Having said that any counter-research needs to aim not to be too ideological – if it can be demonstrated to be about simply ‘disliking gays’ or whatever it won’t be convincing. Its highly questionable that a single style of gendered parenting – effectively motherhood – can provide for children’s development, and any counter-research will need to demonstrate why the research it is going up against is ideologically, and methodologically flawed as well as not to completely into the same trap itself

    1. If they’re right arms weren’t occupied holding those poor victms hands it looks like they’re in a great stance to let out a nazi salute. Regardless, with all of the debauchery that goes on at gay pride parades, is that really an appropriate place for children? I expect a resounding fuck no.

    2. Making the child wear the rainbow colours and wave the rainbow flag is like the religious indoctrination of children. It’s a form of child abuse!

    3. And this is why religions allow you to burn a few people at the stake, because you have to at some point

    4. Run away, children! You’re just a couple of daddy/daddy hugs and kisses away from AIDS!

      1. good luck…i am guessing you will do some kind of article at the end of it all to give us an idea how it all went…

  5. The part about Tim getting punished unjustly for schoolyard violence struck close to home for me. We used to have assemblies at my elementary school similar to the grotesque “multicultural day” event in the story. The kids would sit on the ground on gym mats and everyone’s parents would line the walls and what space there was behind the kids. I was sitting on the mat and a kid was poking me in the back constantly. I did as they taught us; I turned around and said “Please, stop”. Like in the story – kids will not stop if you act meek. He continued and I said again 2 more times. After my third time of trying the approved method I turned around and punched him in the face. He immediately stopped and my teacher immediately came over and reprimanded me for my transgression.
    My father, who actually told me this story, I don’t remember it even though I was 6-8, told me that he had watched the whole encounter and that the teacher said to him after, “I felt bad about getting on to him about it but what else could I do?” The teacher had watched this kid antagonize me for 5 minutes until I got violent. What kind of message does that send to young children? 1. You will get punished if you take matters into your own hands. 2. You can do anything as long as it isn’t against “acceptable behavior”. 3. The authority can not be trusted to dispense justice.

    1. Ha, I had the same thing happen in 8th grade. My only fist fight in school. Some jerk behind gleeked on me. Told him if he did it again, I would sock him. He did and so I wailed on him. Our guidance counselor was cool and I didn’t even get a slap on wrist.

    2. I had a similar scenario in 5th grade during circle time (Sitting on the floor while the teacher read). A kid kept poking and pinching me and I gave him dirty looks and would whisper “Stop!” Then he pinched me in a sensitive part of my arm and I screamed in pain. Did the kid who was pinching me get in trouble? Nope. Even after I explained that he was pinching me it was me who got in trouble for disrupting class for being the “victim” while he was the troublemaker.

      1. A kid tried that with me at high school while I had my back to him in lessons, and I swung a 180 degree punch right into his jaw and he went down like a sack of potatoes. The teacher just nodded at me and gave me a ‘I didn’t see anything’ look. It was the 1980s. The bullying fuck deserved it and the teacher knew it. Great days.

    3. Exactly!!! I remember I had much worst situations than this and I acted like a sheepie on what I was told: “if someone bothers you, tell the teacher or principal..” What was the result? Worst retribution from the bulkiest. Now I look back and I feel guilty for not defending myself. I don’t mind if I’ve gotten suspended…

  6. “What happens to the boy who has gay men as parents?”
    If you read some of the stories from men who grew up in that situation– He will eventually get molested by some of the gay parents friends if not one or both the parents themselves. Homos do not maintain a healthy lifestyle let alone a sound environment to raise children in.

    1. Sad but true, I used to think this was exclusive to gay men/boys but a friend of mine told me she was molested by a lesbian friend of her hetero parents so you’re on to something.

      1. Pedos go where the kids are, but first they have to gain trust to gain access. I just heard the Boy Scouts are going to let gay troop leaders — this is the beginning of the end for them. Glad to hear Christian groups are setting up their own scouts.

        1. Oh yeah, because there’s no history of child abuse in Christian Churches, no, not at all.

        2. What truth? That people prepared to rape children supposedly didn’t enter the scouts because of a ban? Even though the majority of abusers of boys are heterosexual in ‘normal’ life? Or that herding kids into groups run by your local cult leader will make them safer?

        3. Teaching boys it’s ok to suck another mans cock isn’t a christian trait– in fact its considered a sin and afront to our faith.
          Re-read my post– especially the part about “gaining trust to get access.” They come in all forms and vocations.

        4. Wherever children are under the power of adults, some instances of abuse will arise. However, all religions pretty much condemn sodomy as filth

        5. Cult? You mean like herding kids into public schools to be molested by their teachers?

        6. Heterosexual? I’d say that any “Heterosexual” men that are pederasts are just another variant of homosexual.
          So men mentoring boys are cult leaders now eh?

        7. Boy scouts come from homosexual = pedo origins. Those brown uniforms come directly from it, t was called Hitler Youth.

        8. “That people prepared to rape children supposedly didn’t enter the scouts because of a ban? Even though the majority of abusers of boys are heterosexual in ‘normal’ life?”
          All men who sodomize boys are sodomites, even if not all sodomites are pedophiles.
          Some sodomite pedophiles are willingly to go deep under cover as Roman Catholic priests, marry women who already have children, become teachers and youth leaders, just to have trusted access to young males.

    2. This is the thing. A lot of people say that gay dads don’t rape their adopted sons, and this may be true in many cases, but their FRIENDS do, and they don’t give a shit

  7. Good storytelling Roosh, I’m afraid this might be the future for many kids since the Supreme Court ruling. We truly live in weird times when Same-Sex marriage is considered not only a right but normal. One of the Supreme Court Judges that voted against this ruling, Chief Justice John Roberts, hit the nail on the head when he said,
    “If a same-sex couple has the constitutional right to marry because their
    children would otherwise “suffer the stigma of knowing their families
    are somehow lesser,” … why wouldn’t the same reasoning apply to a
    family of three or more persons raising children? If not having the
    opportunity to marry “serves to disrespect and subordinate” gay and
    lesbian couples, why wouldn’t the same “imposition of this disability,”
    … serve to disrespect and subordinate people who find fulfillment in
    polyamorous relationships?”
    I wouldn’t even limit it to polyamorous relationships, what about incestual relationships? I mean its two consenting adults. What about bestiality? If animals are property then is consent needed?. What about pan-sexuality ? If I can ‘communicate with my deity than what right does the court have to deny my marriage to Aphrodite? etc, etc
    One of the main arguments for same-sex coupling is freedom of expression, and the BS ‘I was born this way’. If thats the case than why do we still condemn other sexual perverts like necrophiliacs and pedophiliacs,These examples might be extreme to the layman but I mean they were ‘born that way’. Since this court ruling, what right do we have in judging other expressions of sexual couplings. Pedophilia is often considered a mental illness, there was a time homosexuality was considered a mental illness, think about that. A pandora’s box was opened and there is no turning back
    But this story has many elements to it.
    1.The effeminate brainwashing that vulnerable kids recieve from two homo fathers
    2.The numbing down of an abused kid through the use of Ritalin who just wanted to channel his pain and anger by playing during recess and living in a fantasy world like what most kids do.
    3. How boys are taught not to defend themselves from legitimate physical abuse from girls at a young age.
    4. How even kids don’t recognize same-sex marriages as something natural otherwise Timothy would not have been bullyed.
    5. The two ‘fathers’ never teach Timothy the importance of defending himself as a man against the bullies in his school and against the bitch in his class.
    Two Fathers do the same if not more psychological damage to a son than an incompetent single-mom. Marriage is a union only fit for a masculine man and a feminine female(the Yin and the Yang). Kids find a feminine man confusing as they rightly assume that only females should be feminine in a marriage, making the child feel thats its ok to be a bitch, its ok to like girly things, its ok to be more emotional than women…
    But there could be hope, I read a study not too long ago that kids raised in homosexual homes tend have a higher chance of being homophobic. Nature always finds a balance.

    1. “I read a study not too long ago that kids raised in homosexual homes tend have a higher chance of being homophobic. Nature always finds a balance.”
      That would correlate from what I heard about boys raised in single-parent households by the mother tend to be more misogynistic.

      1. It would make sense, the hatred of being raised in that environment is directed to the mother and by proxy, other women

  8. Canada doesn’t want to let Roosh onto its borders xD
    We can’t let Roosh poison this great nation with heterosexual ideas!!!
    Canada is for immigrants, gays, cats, and women on anti-depressants only!!!
    The nerve of this fucking guy!!!
    Go back to your foreign countries with all those stupid attractive women!!!
    I can’t even…
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/roosh-v-pickup-artist-shouldn-t-be-allowed-in-canada-says-petition-1.3166099
    Roosh you know I’ve been reading your stuff for a while.
    That Canada wants to ban you is hilarious.
    Makes me feel a little less crazy to be honest.

    1. Damn, can’t believe they didn’t have mounties on moose supervising when we went out drinking.

    2. maybe they’re worried that Roosh’s “Bang Canada” will get canadian courtship rituals wrong:

    3. “Go back to your foreign countries with all those stupid attractive women!!!”
      heh. made me chuckle.

  9. “This wasn’t helped by the confusing arrangement of having two dads. He
    leaned towards using “Dad” on Randy, the more masculine of the two since
    Michael was on estrogen therapy to eventually become a Michelle, but in
    the end he stuck to using their first names.”
    This made me laugh.

  10. Next story should be a homosexual commune with a tour of furrys visiting for the weekend.

      1. It is bait and switch. They build up a star with followers and then try to see how many followers and idolizers follow suit when they ‘freak out’ the star with some gender bender. They did it with Michael Jackson, Justin Timberlake, Ellen and many more. Most pop stars you can gamble are Judas goats just waiting to reveal themselves and drive a number of their followers to follow suit and become ass packers and losers in the sperm wars, losers in the struggle to survive.

        1. It was proper red pill until that. I was watching it last night like “WTF?!”

        2. “Most pop stars you can gamble are Judas goats just waiting to reveal themselves and drive a number of their followers to follow suit”
          I’m very inclined to agree. Though I think it is not a “bait and switch” it seems to me more like “pace and lead” methodology that originated from NLP.

      2. Same thing happened on History Channel’s “The Bible” mini series.

      3. “Can anyone tell me why Sons of Anarchy went transgender gay at the end?”

    1. a picture is worth a thousand words….
      also Roosh….is this story at all true or just extremely well written?

        1. Thank God, but it reflects a reality for so many… and this often the BEST case scenario a boy can hope for in this situation

    2. Best defense is to move to a rural area. Get the hell out of crowded Blue State areas.

      When they get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, they will become corrupt as in Europe.
      — Thomas Jefferson, letter to Martha Jefferson Randolph, December 23, 1790
      teachingamericanhistory.org/library/document/letter-to-james-madison-19/

      I view great cities as pestilential to the morals, the health and the liberties of man. True, they nourish some of the elegant arts, but the useful ones can thrive elsewhere, and less perfection in the others, with more health, virtue and freedom, would be my choice.”
      — Thomas Jefferson, letter to Dr. Benjamin Rush, September 23, 1800
      founders.archives.gov/documents/Jefferson/01-32-02-0102

      The mobs of great cities add just so much to support of pure government as sores do to the strength of the human body.
      — Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1743-1826
      digitalhistory.uh.edu/disp_textbook.cfm?smtID=11&psid=3799

      1. You can run but you cant hide. Its only a matter of time before the last cultural holdouts are overrun. You fight it where you live, action is faster than reaction and packing up and moving away is a reactive move that will only buy some time.

  11. interesting. i remember that i used to play the nice boy in order for adults to like me, especially when i came to boarding school. made me so fucking proud.
    that was after i had been expelled in the second grade after seven reprimands. on my first day at school, i had called my female teacher an asshole. i routinely had gotten into fights.
    most adults really liked me for being nice. mostly those cute old wise men types who probably had always been weaklings themselves. and women. but there were always, although irregularly, men who disrupted my way of getting approval. at boarding school, for instance, there was this man who would look at me with contempt for acting nice. he would favor my roommate who was much more aggressive. how was i supposed to know that that is what a man needs to be like? of course, i assumed he was an asshole, something wrong with his masculine confidence.
    thank you for this perspective on how a child’s need for approval can lead it on quite wrong paths.
    to those who too have forgotten how to fight: find a nice muay thai gym with a badass trainer. cardio is exhausting, but there is nothing like the adrenaline of sparring. after such a long deprivation of that feeling, i relish every bit of pain and bloodlust now.

    1. >this man who would look at me with contempt
      but do nothing to expand your horizons or help you, besides favoring more “aggressive” (shit, that could be code for anything) boys and expecting you to figure out the rest?
      Are you sure he wasn’t just a dumb asshole?
      Besides, being masculine shouldn’t have to preclude common courtesy. It shouldn’t necessitate it either, but that doesn’t mean it should just be for homos and women.

      1. come on, that is not what life is like. if a kid disgusts you and another inspires you, you do not spend your time with the first.
        fair that, aggressiveness is a vague term on my side. but i think it is obvious, if not from this article, that aggression is a part of the human experience and it needs to be wielded.
        he did not do anything sociopathic. he simply was a man with an opinion and some childhood stories. he disliked me. that does not make him a dumb asshole. because there was really not much likable about the person i was.

        1. That’s not what life is like, no, but it’s what teachers should be like. I assume he was a teacher, because you met him at a boarding school, anyway. I have probably met several guys like that, but instead of learning anything from them, I had to be introduced to the red pill through the internet, through men I’ve never met.
          How unlikable could you have been if you were a nice kid? The impression I’m getting is that this man considered you weak because you were polite.
          But I’m almost certainly projecting: I knew a man like that too, from a boarding school, too. And if anything, the enmity he reflected in me just solidified my resolution to be “good”, and to not be anything like the more “aggressive kids” who bullied me, and whom he approved more of. That’s what I resent about him now when I look back: A red-pill man making a boy more blue-pill. I don’t even resent the blue-pill teachers as much, because they didn’t fucking know better, and they actually did their best.

        2. interesting perspective.
          but i still disagree. one integral part of being a man is to be able to handle conflict. sure, someone has to teach it to you, but ultimately, if you have to explain yourself all the time, that contradicts the notion of conflict. it would be akin to a girl instructing you to seduce her.
          it is not the job of teachers. it is the job of the father.
          yes, it is unfortunate for those who did not have one, but that is life. once you are somewhat grown up, people just rightly expect you to know some things.
          if i put that thought aside, though, and consider that many red pill men actually did share knowledge with me, it was me who rejected it and ran to females and weak men to acknowledge me for whom i was already. yes, i considered them evil for stating simple truths. cause it hurt me. why would i, the spoiled nice kid, want to be hurt? what did i ever do wrong? how am i supposed to understand that that hurt is necessary when most other adults say it is not? look at sjw’s. it is the same. they refuse the truth because they do not trust their own mind and much less they trust you. and there is always someone waiting for them to keep them in comfort.
          that is the problem i think. consistency. fat shaming would work if everybody did it. if there was no retreat. no mother or weak father to cuddle you after people call poor you fat. nobody to uphold an illosory world to make you dependent on them.
          he was not a teacher, by the way. he was something of a pedagogue, helping us with homework and telling us stories. in hindsight, he was a cool guy. he once made me and my roommate understand how to study history by imagining it as a real life situation.
          regarding bullying, i have come to see it as a natural process of mocking somebody with their idiosyncracies. from the perspective of the bully, it is harmless banter. it is the weak kid that overreacts and starts to hate. compare it to a shit test. a confident man sees a shit test as a fun thing. part of normal conversation. but the weakling fails not to see it as a hurtful personal attack and starts to hate it. imagine yourself and how you reacted from the outside. imagine how you could have reacted instead. it is ultimately you who chose to be the bullied more than they choosing to be your bullies.

        3. >once you are somewhat grown up, people just rightly expect you to know some things
          But if no one’s going to teach you, how can you rightly be held to such expectations? Bit of a logical disconnect there.
          >many red pill men actually did share knowledge with me, it was me who rejected it and ran
          I recognize this (I think), and the problem was always the same as I described above: They taught with contempt and mockery – and only that, which naturally turned me against them, instead of logic and actual information, which I had to run into on the internet, and which worked.
          >he was something of a pedagogue
          Then this sort of stuff would be exactly his job.
          >i have come to see it as a natural process of mocking somebody with their idiosyncracies.
          Such as being too tall, too red-haired, too quick to enter puberty, etc.
          >it is the weak kid that overreacts and starts to hate.
          Yes. I was weak. Kids who are bullied are weak, otherwise they wouldn’t be bullied in the first place.
          Being bullied did not make me “stronger” for a very, very long time. From kindergarden to ninth grade, the only thing it taught me was to avoid others. Ninth grade was the first time I finally managed to be even more insistently unpleasant than the bullies, so they were the ones avoiding me. That did not make me more socially adept, but it did work.
          The thing is, I’m still shit at connecting with others. Bullying did not help me there. My idiosyncrasies aren’t particularly polished, I learned the most of how to disguise my autism during lower bullying years. The best lesson I’ve taken with me in regards to other people is that keeping your mouth shut is a virtue.
          I honestly can’t see all those years of bullying as having been good for me. But maybe that’s all just my own fault for being weak. So I guess I got what I deserved.
          But are you going to tell me that all weak people are rightfully bullied and this solves the problem with weak people?
          >compare it to a shit test
          The purpose of shit tests is to find out if a man is sufficiently manly for procreation. There is no such purpose to bullying.
          I look around at society slowly rotting, people being exploited and scammed by the billions. I look back at the many different schools I attended, all the many different kids who bullied me. Normal kids, growing up to be normal people. And I say:
          These people made my life hell. Fuck ’em. I don’t owe them shit. I’m going to look out for #1, and if that means being a thoroughly unpleasant bastard, well…

        4. i did not say you owe them shit. own your own life, obviously. fight your own fight.
          i rather meant to imply that they do not owe you shit, either. your weakness is not their fault. i sometimes find myself angry at the way i have developed, but am even more disappointed to find out that there is no one i can rightfully direct my anger at. it just is.

          The purpose of shit tests is to find out if a man is sufficiently manly for procreation.

          no, that is a wrong interpretation of a man who is only concerned with procreation. it is a test of integrity and strength and you get it from women as well as from men. it tests your ability to participate in banter and can stand your ground.
          you did not stand your ground. when they “bullied” you, you did not express your anger and push back. because no one taught you to. thus over the years, the anger turned to hatred. that is how it was for me. had i expressed the anger at the appropriate time towards the right people, they may have respected me. as it is, i am becoming an unpleasant bastard as well. as you say, fuck it.
          regarding the teaching: the fact that there was no father to teach you and the fact that it is vital for you to be taught unfortunately does not qualify you for anything in life. no matter how much you want or even need something, nobody will ever care as a father should have and could have. a you grow up, it is about healthy competition and standing your ground.
          what i like to do is to harden myself against contempt and attacks and just listen to the words they say and hear the logic in them. i honestly think that this is the purpose. to learn not to be distraught by wild manners, ever, and still being able to focus. to be able to scream in an argument and still stay reasonable. a week ago, my father visited. at one point in time, we screamed at each other while taking a walk. five seconds later, i calmly asked him if he wants to sit down on a cool bench. but consider what would happen if either of us would become totally butthurt. the other person would try to mock him out of that.

        5. Minus all the traits that made most people like you (as you mentioned)…
          I think it’s very interesting that you let one person – especially one person that wasn’t very nice to you – change who you were. Then again, if you weren’t truly happy with who you were than that change was your own and he was just a catalyst. So who exactly do you want to be?
          Have you seen the Protector (starring Tony Jaa)? Here’s a clip from one of my favourite fight scenes in the movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMfuHwkzD1M
          Ong Bak is pretty good as well.
          Oh, and Ip Man. I grew up practising martial arts since I was four and though I’ve let my training lax a hell of a lot when I began to travel, I’m still overly obsessed with martial art movies. XD

    2. “Something wrong with his masculine confidence” sentence of the day. That’s what all beta SJW men and women love to say, when a SJW boy tries to act tough he is the one like he is trying to overcompensate.
      I learned that being a man needs to be consistent just like lifting weights. If you stop lifting weights you will forget that buzz you must always flex your nuts grit your teeth and push on being a tough man requires vigilance never stop standing up for yourself
      Not related to you but to this article: if you get bullied and you make up an excuse like oh he just needs to project his anger from abusive parents pior kid than you are running away right now the problem os this kid is bullying you
      Buddha said this if you are shot by a poison arrow why are you looking for the person that shot it go get an antidote for the poison the problem right now is what you should solve
      I mean especially as a kid what can you do to solve the bully’s parents? Fix the bully with a punch to his face

  12. This story describes about the best case scenario for a child in this situation.
    A larger part of the bell curve, for a child in this situation, involves pedos in charge at home and their pedo friends.

    1. Most gays don’t like masculine men, they tend to like the small female equivalent of men which in most cases is a small boy.

        1. Huh? A “heterosexual male who rapes male children” is not heterosexual.

  13. What happens if Timothy begins to like his friend? His gay parents couldn’t give him advice on girls.

  14. I went to college with the gayest human being I’ve ever met. I never thought about his upbringing until one day in class he mentioned that he was adopted and raised by two moms. Now what are the chances these lesbians just happened to pick out a gay baby? All the while this guy was adamant that gays are “born this way”.
    I also know a handful of M-to-F transsexuals. Three of them were raised in some capacity without a father (Never knew him, divorce, and death, respectively). They were also only children or only had sisters and no brothers. Raised by women as the only male in the household and they begin to wear women’s clothes and feel like women. Yet they’re also adamant they were “born this way”.
    I think nurture plays a bigger role in sexuality than anyone wants to admit.

    1. I strongly believe that homos and trannies have chemical imbalances in the brain and just like people multiple personality disorder or schizophrenia, it’s a mental disorder. If we accept these people as normal what about people who believe they have two people inside them? What about those people who hear voices?
      Anyone who believes that gays and trannies are normal are ignorant. If you can’t call someone who’s schizophrenic normal, why can you call being gay normal?
      Ask any scientist and they’d confirm that sexual attraction is nothing but the brain giving off singles of “mating” which means “sex” which means “reproduce”. If the only purpose for sex is to drop your semen in a woman’s vagina where do lesbians and gays come in to the equation?

      1. that purpose is constructed. take away the rational parts of the brain and it is about pleasure. it is simply those who found it pleasurable to fuck a woman who survived. if evolution did not create outliers on a regular basis, we would never adapt.

        1. “it is simply those who found it pleasurable to fuck a woman who survived. ”
          Let’s say it is a necessary (but not sufficient) condition to reproduce, not survive

        2. Wrong. In evolutionary terms those who fuck women are sucessful and pass on their genes, homos and dykes are left out of the equation. Even on your terms, homosexuality is an aberration (outliers).

        3. technically, all you need is a uterus to carry a fertilized egg in some way. but yes, the binary genders have been pretty successful. that does not imply a purpose, though. it is merely an effect.

        4. Eating is about survival….as is sex. The last meal or fuck session you had most likely was for pleasure but ultimately it’s about survival. Homo’s are as sick as anorexic people.

        5. when oxygen and hydrogen react, is the purpose of the reaction the creation of water or is that simply an effect of the way all those particles attract each other?

        6. But for a gay person, not being out and gay is a living hell; imagine if you had to repress your heterosexuality. It’s not a survival condition but it’s damn near. And your analogy totally fails.

        7. I’m sorry, but, no: a proboscis designed to fertilize, and a cavity designed to be fertilized, certainly do imply a purpose, not merely an effect. Your atomic analogy, above, entirely misses the point (atoms can bond to form many different molecules, so that the laws and properties of molecular bonding would be the place to look for implicit design, rather than to say that any one kind of bonding was the sole purpose of its constituent atoms; contrarily, a penis and vagina, a sperm and an egg, have obviously related and complimentary functions, like a plug and a socket).
          Likewise your argument from pleasure is flawed; genital stimulation leading to orgasm is pleasant, whether from a vagina, anus, mouth, hand or even rubbing up against the couch. If *all* we cared about in sex was pleasure, we would be far more promiscuous and indiscriminate in the objects of our lust. There is, rather, a powerful drive – which, surprise of surprises, in the vast majority of people, also happens to coincide with the complimentary gender that can result in new life. You say “those who found it pleasurable to fuck a woman survived,” as though there were other procreative options, but those who preferred them happened to die out. No, those who found it pleasurable to fuck men or cows also survived. We observe that such men do still live and survive. It doesn’t matter whether they survive or not, because their generative organs are designed to work only upon those of their female compliments.
          I know that it depends on the premises: your premises see order emerge from chaos; mine see design from the outset. But I think my premises are more rational and involve far less blind belief in unsearchable processes.

        8. i did not mean to imply that vaginal sex evolved among various procreative methods. rather, that those organisms that chose to engage in sex, procreated at all.
          yes, our premises are different.

        9. My oldest son is gay…and it’s a mental disorder. My analogy is dead on. And I understand what you’re saying completely. I wouldn’t wish gayness on anyone. They are tormented souls and far from GAY/happy. This is why they attack anything traditional and muddy anything normal so they feel better about themselves. It is a sickness just like pedophilia (which I could suggest to you that if you so happen not to be one…imagine how hard it would be to repress those feelings for children and make yourself be normal).

        10. Where are you coming up with this shit dude? Bar Bar? Let’s pretend it was 200,000 thousand yrs ago and you (with all humans) had very little (if any…as many humans this day still demonstrate) capacity for cognitive thought. What is your purpose then? Survival. How? EXACTLY as I commented. Eating and fucking. Just like the animal kingdom.
          But all of a sudden some human dude in 2015 with an IQ of a hundred comes up with all this crazy bullshit on the purpose of existence. You are gravely wrong. Your entire organism (brain, arms, legs, heart, all of it) serves one purpose…..to carry your dick around and find a fucking vagina. PERIOD! All the shit you do in life (game, education, combat skills, fight/flight, even spirituality, etc) is only for two purposes….reproductive rights and reproductive resources. Fucking and eating!

        11. how about a dog who fucks? does he do this with the intent of having children or is that simply an effect of the action?
          200.000 years ago, people may have evolved some capacity to think beyond that of a dog. but it is technically not necessary for a man in a tribe to know the outcome of his action. it may be beneficial for the tribe if the young male gets “caught” in a situation where he has to take care of a kid. and pleasure/desire would be the reason the inexperienced male would make such a choice.
          how many kids today are planned?
          a purpose is a concept that requires rational thought. without rational thought, there is no purpose. and if an action is not motivated rationally primarily, you can only superimpose a purpose in hindsight, akin to rationalization.

        12. Instincts bro. What is all this purpose and thought stuff? Maybe I’m lost? Lizard brain man. All that I am physically behooves me to survive. Plants and and animals have the same instincts or existences. I’m not saying people can’t be carnal/hedonistic and enjoy sex with the same gender (God knows I love me sum bi-women) or that at one time (and somewhat today still with people more controlled by primal instincts/low IQ/Africans) that we had to breed like rabbits to assure human survival (and so fucked everything in sight)……but (today) it’s completely insane/a mental illness/natural defect to ultimately ONLY mate with the same sex.
          Sperm has only one purpose…the egg (not a clump of stool). And from the sperm size level in your balls it releases all sorts of ways to (sex) drive you instinctively (mainly from hormones) to place where it can find that egg. The dick is long so it can go deep into the vagina to aid this. Not to go deep into a mans rear end. Isn’t this common sense?

        13. your point is that homos are sick. i get it. if you define a standard of a healthy man and make his heterosexuality a part of it, then a homosexual man is obviously sick. i am fine with that.
          my point is simply that nature knows no purpose. neither does sperm.
          i am not defending homosexuality against your judgment – which i share – but it bothers me when you assume that human judgment has any meaning on an absolute scale.
          theoretically, a big group of LGBT crazies could decide to open up a place on their own, without procreation, and define that as their standard. they would not survive for further generations, but they would not care – until dying miserably, that is.

      2. Transgenderism can be seen as an extreme form of body dysmorphia, where a person doesn’t feel at home in their own body. But under that same umbrella is Body Integrity Identity Disorder (BIID), where people feel that otherwise healthy body parts don’t belong there and want them amputated. So we look at a person with BIID who wants a perfectly good leg chopped off as being a freak, yet we’re supposed to accept a man who has a perfectly healthy penis chopped off because he wants to be a woman. As a perfectly healthy male, I could survive missing a leg, but I can’t imagine life without my genitals.

      3. Well, there are many gay doctors and biologists. Do you think they’re more ignorant than you?
        Personally, I think all this pro-LGBT & feminist crapshit is a design by nature to reduce earth population. Developped countries experience a decrease in population and emerging countries are following.

        1. Developed countries with tech nurse and subsidize the weakest and infirm and this accelarates into a cycle of dependence on the tech itself to sustain life. Tech should be kept at arms distance by masculine men as a toy for sport but never mainlined or you’re hooked.

        2. My point is that all this delirium is actually normal. We need to decrease earth population. Then people have to reproduce less and less.
          I think they’re is a superior entity (i.e. Nature) that is working on it.
          Bitching against LGBT, feminists, zoophiles and other weirdos is just being at odds with the design of Nature.

        3. Well, GAY docs and biologists wouldn’t research something to prove themselves wrong, they’d be researching from a place of bias as to prove themselves normal. I personally don’t care at this point seeing as everyone has already accepted the lifestyle so I might as well keep my mouth shut and follow suit, “If I see a majority accepting it, it must be normal” right?
          As far as my ignorance goes, I’ll admit I’m no doctor or biologist. However, I put gays/lesbians in the same group with zoophiles, an abnormal practice that everyone will normalize for the sake of their feelings.

        4. “research something to prove themselves wrong” That’s exactly how science works, though, you test AGAINST the hypothesis or control to see how well it stands up to scrutiny. Homosexuality exists in nature in over 500 animal species not including homo sapiens. That’s just scientific fact.

        5. always found it interesting that mainstream science believes that the universe was formed by chance yet speaks as if Nature had a mind of its own..”a DESIGN by nature”..emphasis mine

        6. Elephants rape rhinoceroses…thats scientific fact..we cant look to animals to justify sexual deviancy

        7. Persnally, I don’t think Nature has a particular design. It just tries to maintain balance through experiments. When an experiment goes wrong, it tries another.
          Typically, modern science coupled with “peace and love” philosophy have improved our material situation which resulted in an overpopulated planet.
          The most acceptable solution is to promote perversion (homosexuality, transexualism, zoophilia, etc.).
          Again, Nature cares only about balance. Morality is secondary.

        8. In countries who accepted feminism, LGBTism, etc., the population is seriously decreasing. On the long run, we will be able to deflate tthe planet. That’s the only thing that matters from a holistic standpoint.
          Of course, the White race will be almost extinct. But that’s just another issue.

        9. Personally, I am anti gay-agenda. However, I think that homosexuality is used by nature for population control, notably to prevent the weakest males to reproduce.

        10. “it just tries to maintain balance through experiments” “Nature cares only about balance” Nature cares nothing about those things. Nature can not care about those things. NATURE CAN NOT THINK. You misguided people are confusing the philosophies of elite people ushering in a New Age with Nature. Since you try to replace God with science, you end up saying things that heavily contradict your arguments. If this is all by chance, and the creation of everything not formed by intelligence, the forces that formed it by chance will also do everything else by chance and unintelligently. Only gods, spirits, demons,angels and people can “care” about something.

        11. Personally I think retards shouldn’t get any government support. Otherwise handicapped people, sure, after all they may yet contribute something valuable to society. Retards won’t ever do that, all they’ll ever do is create unnecessary cost.

        12. Why are you talking about reatarded people? My point was about the global design of nature.

      4. No neuroscientist would say sex was simply about mating. Sex isn’t just about reproduction, it’s about social bonding. From an evolutionary standpoint a group which cooperates and minimises intra-group violence will be more successful, and sexual interactions are a rather good way to achieve that.
        A simplified version of this is the ‘gay uncle’ idea. Nieces and nephews genetically count for half sons and daughters. If you have three siblings and help each of them to bring a child to adulthood who would not otherwise have done so, more of your genes have been passed on than if you raised a child of your own.

        1. Evolution has never been proven to be 100% true so I never go off that theory alone. However, I would also say that based on my knowledge of history sex among large groups has never ended well. Every culture in history that had orgies and all kinds of freedom when it came to sex was rife with conflict almost primarily caused by jealousy.
          I’m no scientist but I can say that the evolutionary standpoint falls apart at the seems when you introduce the fact that NO civilization has ever survived when you throw away morals from the sole purpose giving in to your every desire. At the end of the day, that social bonding bs is a mask used to tell people “do whatever feels good”.
          With that logic, animals and humans should be free to have sex seeing as they can’t communicate through social means they can bond sexually right? Or what young kids and their parents? Why place an age limit on social bonding which could help create a peaceful society? These questions get thrown out whenever you question someone’s desire.
          A society that would throw sex around so easily for the sake of bonding is clearly in decline. However, I’d be willing to agree if you could show me one civilization throughout history that actually thrived reveling in their sexual desires while never holding up the moral compass. I have my proof in the 21st century, look at America and tell me it’s not on the decline for various reasons, one of which being the seemingly fixation this country has with sex.

      5. They are normal by the fact that they can make choices in life and the environment and choices they make can determine what they are sexually attracted to just like everyone else

      6. Gays and trannies will be considered normal by medical professionals until the day that some pharmaceutical company isolates the cause and develops a drug that cures it, then they will all be diagnosed and prescribed pills. As far as being born that way goes, I believe it, I’ve known two guys in my lifetime, who were obviously gay from the time they were small children. Both came from stable families with masculine fathers and straight siblings. As to whether or not it’s a mental Illness, I agree with you, it is.

        1. But what if pharmaceutical companies could develop a drug that did the opposite — turning straight men gay? No child support, no constant bitching and nagging, no divorce rape. Just parades, EDM, and a steady stream of random ass for the rest of your life. Fuck… sign me up!

        2. well if nothing else, the company that does come up with that drug should give you the job of marketing executive, you’ve sold me on it.

      7. It’s all mental illness. A lot of mental illnesses result in gender confusion and homosexual feelings. A normal person in therapy gets cured of this. Long ago a lot of people went to psychiatrists with the complaint of homosexuality, not realizing they were suffering from other issues. Then SJW’s and liberals said gay isn’t a disease. What it is is that they’re mentally ill and the underlying problems aren’t being addressed. Acting out as gay is like a pressure relief valve for them, like alcohol is to an alcoholic. Acting out makes their mental illnesses worse and they eventually flame out. There are NO gay people who end up resembling psychologically normal people.
        Now they have counselors just for gays. And these quacks justify everything the gays want to do. It’s all about money and reinforcing insanity.

      8. Any scientist? That’s ridiculous, human sexuality is far more complex then that. And if the only reason for sex is to drop semen into a vagina then why do websites like this one exist?

    2. “… Yet they’re also adamant they were “born this way”.
      I think nurture plays a bigger role in sexuality than anyone wants to admit”
      Exactly. And this points out to the main paradox in the feminist (and now more and more mainstream) discourse.
      We are told that:
      – gender is not innate just a “social construct”, on one hand
      but, somehow
      – sexual orientation/behaviour cannot be “teached”/influenced, we are born hetero/homo/bi
      It is quite interesting to mention this contradiction when discussing the matter, as many people didn’t really think on that but being fed the line above about gender/orientation actually believe it.

      1. On that same topic, we’re told that gays are born that way and they don’t choose their sexuality and sexual practices. Yet when a straight man gets turned on by big tits and round asses we’re told he’s been brainwashed by the media, even if he’s liked big tits and asses since before he could remember. So which is it? Are you born that way or do outside forces like the media decide for you what you’ll find attractive?

        1. Good example too! We may include preference for slim girls too – is it not the media that brainwashed us into not being attracted to chubby ones?

        2. “On that same topic, we’re told that gays are born that way and they don’t choose their sexuality and sexual practices. Yet when a straight man gets turned on by big tits and round asses we’re told he’s been brainwashed by the media, even if he’s liked big tits and asses since before he could remember. So which is it? Are you born that way or do outside forces like the media decide for you what you’ll find attractive?”
          The answer is simple: they use whichever answer suits the agenda of the liberal / socialist agenda.

        3. Actually I like the “chubby” ones as well, just my definition might not be the same for me as it is for ‘Muricans, where the average strong, independent womyn resemble a landwhale, yet dare to consider themselves “curvy” lol.

        4. Men are actually born attracted to tits and ass because 1. big tits show good fertility and 2. a big ass shows good birthing ability (ie: mother is less likely to die during childbirth so you won’t be stuck with the little brat on your own – no offence to whining babies). However, our definition of what big is (to an extent) is heavily based by media and given that we no longer live in a hard time (evolutionary wise), we have more freedom to choose a mate that isn’t just physically/biologically appealing, but also emotionally, mentally, and personally appealing. Nevertheless though, little hormones and other minute signals that subconsciously tell you whether a mate is worthy of carrying your child are still largely at play.
          Not sure where gays fit in on the human scale, but it’s seen a fair bit across multiple species in the wild. Some males do it to increase their chances of actually getting with the female and some females do it to get themselves more wet and receptive to the male because the male is pretty shit at sex.

      2. In the same vein.
        -We’re told that children are born in a blank slate regarding sexual orientation, that they don’t tilt one way or the other and they start defining their sexuality by puberty.
        -We also hear homos saying they knew they were gay from their early childhood. They say things like “even when I was 5 I already knew I liked boys over girls” and no one -not even the self-proclaimed specialists in mental and sexual development- bats an eye.
        So what is it?
        And also, who’s thinking about romance at 5? I doubt kids so young are even concerned with sexual matters. They only care about fun and games, they don’t even want anything to do with the opposite sex.

        1. One thing you quickly notice about Liberals is that they somehow make a litany of contradictory assertions sound like a cohesive dogma to the public.

        2. I can distinctly remembering BEFORE puberty I found women ( women in bathing suits I saw on TV, etc) attractive and getting aroused. Scientists will insist this was ‘impossible’ before puberty but I remember it. I remember being my ‘girls yuk’ stage in elementary school but I also remember at the time it was more ‘bowing to social pressure’ than not finding girls pretty. So I will assume that things like gender identity/sexual preference are formed by the time a child can tell differences in faces/form emotional bonds…so very early.

        3. I was about to say the exact same thing when I read your comment. I am 30 and can easily remember being 5 years old and seeing women I thought were attractive. Even before I knew what sex was, I knew there was something I liked about them. But like you say, I would never admit it because I just thought I was supposed to say girls have cooties or whatever. In grade 2 there were twin grade 6 girls that all the guys thought were hot, so I wasn’t alone in knowing I liked girls, even if I didn’t know what I wanted them for. At the same time, I have a gay cousin, and the whole family knew when he was very young (as in under 5) that he would turn out gay. My dad says he never believed gays were born that way until he say him, now he’s sure of it. This guy came from a normal family with a masculine father and has a brother who is straight as an arrow. same deal with a friends brother, we were making gay jokes about him when he was 6 years old, my friend said he wasn’t until the brother finally came out in his teens. I am convinced people are born as whatever they are.

        4. I knew from a very young age, like 5 years old, that I was into women. Maybe it wasn’t sexual, but thats because I didn’t know what sex was. I had no interest in playing with them or being friends, but I knew which girls were pretty and which ones were not long before puberty.

        5. “At the same time, I have a gay cousin, and the whole family knew when he was very young (as in under 5) that he would turn out gay. My dad says he never believed gays were born that way until he say him, now he’s sure of it. This guy came from a normal family with a masculine father and has a brother who is straight as an arrow. same deal with a friends brother, we were making gay jokes about him when he was 6 years old, my friend said he wasn’t until the brother finally came out in his teens. I am convinced people are born as whatever they are.”
          And that’s how environment turns some men into sodomites. Their family are “convinced people are born as whatever they are,” so a young boy (“as in under 5”) likes putting on dresses or whatever, and they are think he’ll turn into a sodomite, so he picks up on that and he does. I had a cousin who sometimes enjoyed acting feminine and pretending to be a “fabulous” woman in a dress, but nobody thought that he was going to turn into a sodomite, and some of us were disgusted that he was being allowed to act out like that and that it was being thought “cute.”

        6. But that isn’t how it happens, nobody in the family encouraged that behavior, and he didn’t have any gay role models to follow, or see them on TV, this was a long time ago. If anything it was the opposite, Their fathers tried to push them into doing manly activities etc. and their brothers were perfectly normal. Both of these guys tried to hide it until their late teens, but it was just so obvious, everybody knew what the end result would be. There was no way of changing them. I don’t believe in gays raising kids either, but in both these cases, one child out of a bunch being raised in the same seemingly normal environment, turned out gay, and it didn’t just happen out of nowhere. Edit- I guess it did happen out of nowhere, in other words they were born that way.

        7. When I was in PRE-SCHOOL I would fondle myself at the sight of one of the girls.
          Definitely nature.

    3. Of course they’re born that way. All delusive people have a genetic component to their psychiatric disorder, I kid you not.

    4. Someday it will be revealed being raised solely by a woman and homosexuals adversely affects young boys as it robs them of strong male figures and mentors to base their nature’s on.
      All sexuality is fluid for children but the likelihood of being gay or bisexual seems to increase when a child has a weak or no heterosexual father in the picture. And if this goes on for too long, the likelihood of growing up gay increases as well.

      1. Great points. Let me put it this way – I’m almost 30, and as a child I didn’t know any gay, bi, or trans people. It’s possible my parents/society could’ve hid them from me, but by now I would’ve figured it out or someone would’ve told me.
        But lately it seems like it’s the “in” thing to be non-hetero or outside the gender binary. I know SIX GUYS who have come out as trans in about as many years. One of my best friends also came out as bisexual recently. And I’ve found that any girl born after 1990 who is on OKCupid will take full advantage of the multiple orientations they have (Bisexual, pansexual, and queer outnumbering “straight”).
        So I’m wondering, have gay/bi/trans people always been around us, just hiding who they really are? Or are there more non-cis-hetero people than ever before due to environmental factors? Keep in mind all the people I mentioned are wimps or clearly the product of a lacking father figure – My bisexual friend, for instance, has a short-haired feminist for a mother and a wimpy academic for a father. I think his older sister is also a lesbian.

        1. I think there could be a genetic/biological component to it in some cases, but I think in most cases it is simple mental illness.
          Cui bono?

        2. I’ve known two gay couples where I was 100% sure the younger of the two was only “gay” in the sense that he was paying rent to some much older gay guy with his ass hole.
          I’m thinking there aren’t as many truly gay people out there as some would have us believe

      2. Correct, but will people believe it when it is revealed?
        I can already imagine the kind of reactions one can expect from the SJW crowd when science proves (publicly) that gays raising children is unhealthy:
        – “The research only accounted for 90% of the population, not 100%. Thus the results presented make no sense.”
        – “The scientist is probably raised in a religious family, thus his results make no sense.”
        – “The scientist is secretly gay, but doesn’t want to admit it or is ashamed by it. As such, his results make no sense.”
        – “We strongly condemn this bigoted straight male privileged pseudo science article. Hence, we need to sign a petition to get the scientist, the reviewers and the editor – who made the publication possible in the journal – fired.”
        – “We need to sign a petition to fire all scientists, who don’t twist or falsify their experimental results in favour of the LGBTXYZABC community, from our diverse and multicultural academia.”
        – “We release a call to the government to make gay marriage denial punishable.”

    5. Correct..Kids that are molested at a young age have a huge increase in being homosexual. Lesbians raising boys is going to be a disaster. You are going to see a huge spike in boys turning out gay…

    6. Nurture can definitely play a part.. and not a small part as you say.
      This is why we have to be very careful about allow “gay marriage” or gay men or lesbian women to adopt or have children through 3rd party surrogates. We simply don’t have enough objective data to know what damage is done to these children who are denied being raised by both a male and female biological parents. Right now, it is usually the middle to upper middle, yuppie gay and lesbian couples who have adopted kids, or who have had children through 3rd party surrogates.. and supposedly the claim is that the children turn out fine.. but what is “fine” exactly? That they go to college and have successful careers? How do we know these children haven’t missed out on something crucial when it is impossible to do a proper study with a control group where the same children are raised by their biological male and female parents and then do a comparison. That’s the only way you can make a proper comparison. When it comes to human affairs, it is always wiser to trust tradition and natural, biological patterns that have evolved over thousands of generations rather than some radical experiment of denying children their biological parents out of a misplaced plea to “egalitarianism.” This is not ethically defensible.

    7. I don’t know if homosexuality is the result of parents nurture, but most of us know kids of gay parents, and know they have problems. You can be sure the medical industry will will never ever address this issue in an honest way. As Roosh pointed out, society’s backwards approach to children’s issues combined with such a unnatural family arrangement takes its toll.

  15. Roosh writes shitty fanfiction now I guess?
    Two fathers wouldn’t be good for a child, but two mothers would be 100 times worse.
    edit: roosh is a pathetic beta faggot who banned me from his site for this comment

  16. Truthfully, I don’t give a fuck about any thing or anyone that does not directly effect me.
    The gay dads can rape and eat the boy for all I care. I got my own shit to worry about.

  17. Good story. Although in reality most of this could happen with a hetero couple as well, particularly with a pussified father. Except the cross dressing … maybe.

    1. My neo Nazi godfather is a cross dresser. He’s also a man you wouldn’t want to get on the wrong side of.

      1. In the old days – before everything was hyper-sexualized, you could cross dress and just have people think you were eccentric.

        1. One of the most popular TV shows of the 70’s, MASH, featured the cross dressing Klinger, always trying to get a ‘section 8’ discharge.

  18. The most disturbing aspect of this story is that even if the parents had not been fags, and had instead been the average libtard breeding pair, the result would be the same. That’s the real sign that we’re in trouble.

    1. The difference would be Randy living in the dog igloo paying the bills while Michelle is gone shopping and getting that guuurl power

  19. My father told me one time “the way to handle a bully is to slap the taste out of his mouth, he may wind up whupping yo ass but he ain’t going to try that shit again because it ain’t easy for him but,if you don’t fight back he will never let up on you”. ” If you get in trouble at school for standing up for yourself you won’t have trouble with me but if YOU started it that’s another matter entirely”.

  20. If it was my kid I would stand by him if he used physical force in a defensive manner against an aggressor, male or female.

  21. I think I saw this one on that late night sitcom, “The Rainbow Zone” truly shocking

  22. Long ago (70’s), at 13 we had a woman in town that “dressed like a man, that didn’t like men.” Nobody fucked with her, she was just considered an oddity.
    Later, at 16 I knew this woman that worked in a local shop. Older woman that seemed nice. She complained of car troubles and “Shep couldn’t fix it.” My dad offered to help. We went over to her house and was surprised to find “Shep” was a woman. Dad said “They are homosexuals.” They had “adopted” two kids about my age. I never had any exposure to that lifestyle and thought it was too fucking weird. The extent was the old woman that dressed like a man. I find it hard to believe they were adopted. This was Alabama in the 70’s mind you. The kids seemed pretty normal but stand-offish. Few years later my father told me both the kids ran away. Which wasn’t surprising looking back. Their lives must have been hell living in a non-traditional family and lying about the “parents” or explaining the circumstances. Seems they pretty much rejected the lifestyle.
    I don’t have a hatred for gay people, but I don’t really care much for it, although I don’t really give a damn what they do, unless of course they go batshit crazy over rights and victimization. Whether it is choice or not, they have to live in a world that nature made a determination that heterosexual sex is the de facto standard. Mutual masturbation isn’t going to rewrite the laws of nature folks. Kids seem to inherently want a biological mother and father.
    Regardless of what 30 years of Norman Lear and the Hollywood sitcoms portraying non-traditional families would like people to believe. It doesn’t fucking work.

    1. You should care and be disgusted by it. The indifference attitude is part of what made it possible for you to be bombarded by their agenda.

  23. The part where Timothy was told not to hit a girl even though she attacked him, reminded me one thing. Kids are being told to depend on teachers and principal as the solution of their problems with bullying. What the kids are learning is to be dependent of the system. In the real world, it is the police and government.

    1. The whole school environment is to emulate fucked up society. Yeah rely on the teacher/cop who wont be there in time to stop crimes on you but will be there in time to punish you when you defend yourself
      When you become an adult now the cops are watching

      1. “When you become an adult now the cops are watching”
        The below is why the Onion isn’t funny anymore, because reality has become more twisted than fiction.
        http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user3303/imageroot/20150728_baby.jpg
        3-Year-Old London Child Deemed “Extremist”; Placed In Government Reeducation Program:
        http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-07-28/3-year-old-london-child-deemed-extremist-placed-government-reeducation-program
        The United Kingdom has gone batshit crazy. There’s simply no other way to put it. I warned about Britain’s “war on toddler terrorists” earlier this year in the post: The War on Toddler Terrorists – Britain Wants to Force Nursery School Teachers to Identify “Extremist” Children. Here’s an excerpt:
        Nursery school staff and registered childminders must report toddlers at risk of becoming terrorists, under counter-terrorism measures proposed by the Government.
        The directive is contained in a 39-page consultation
        document issued by the Home Office in a bid to bolster its Prevent
        anti-terrorism plan.
        The document accompanies the Counter-Terrorism and
        Security Bill, currently before parliament. It identifies nurseries and
        early years childcare providers, along with schools and universities, as having a duty “to prevent people being drawn into terrorism”.
        Never fear good citizens of Great Britain. While your government
        actively does everything in its power to protect criminal financial
        oligarchs and powerful pedophiles, her majesty draws the line at toddler thought crime. We learn from the Independent:
        A three-year-old child from London is one of hundreds of young people in the capital who have been tipped as potential future radicals and extremists.
        As reported by the Evening Standard, 1,069 people have been put in the government’s anti-extremism ‘Channel’ process, the de-radicalization program at the heart of the Government’s ‘Prevent’ strategy.
        The three-year-old in the program is from the borough of Tower Hamlets, and was a member of a family group that had been showing suspect behavior.
        Since September 2014, 400 under 18s, including teenagers and children, have been referred to the scheme.

      2. Exactly…how come men from previous generations and from different time period were able to defend themselves either personally or going to war…..they all turned out to be fine. My question is, why there is so much desire to emasculate men? Why there is so much hate on masculinity?

  24. And on this topic, the Boy Scouts just lifted the ban on gay scout leaders. Curious to see when this ends in disaster.

    1. Why? If you wanted to be a scout leader to abuse children why would you have obeyed the ban?

  25. The sad reality with pushing gay rights further and further. Opposing gays to raise children will get you shunned anyway, even if you have strong objections or well-founded arguments against it. And it doesn’t matter if you’re religious or not. If gay parenting is so superior to straight parenting, why hasn’t million years of evolution or thousands of years of human history produced more gay couples than straight couples? Why didn’t natural selection work in favour of gay couples? Because it simply is unnatural for gays to raise children. A traditional straight couple is the cornerstone of a healthy society. Deviating from this will result in a moral Untergang, which is where we’re heading at at full speed.

    1. You’re right, it’s completely unnatural. Such an awkward and unlikely family arrangement for the unfortunate boy could only come about in a completely controlled petre dish.

    2. The original social unit of humanity is the tribe, not the nuclear family. All the adults look after all the young. The current set up is a social creation.

      1. Where’d you get that? Some peer reviewed “study” fresh out of some “queer” studies department? What do you think useless “degrees” like queer studies actually does? It makes shit up like that. Why? Anything to undermine the notion of a biological male and female family. You people are fucking monsters. All because of your “feelings”, selfish pig.

  26. It’s a coincidence after reading this, I turn on TLC looking for some healthy polygamy saga to watch and WTF do they have on tonight but some shit about transgender YOUTH!! They’re poisoning impressionable youth. The shit is pure poison and the programmers will always be a bunch of snakes.

  27. I can relate to Tim getting punshed for schoolyard violence. I remember many aggressive instances growing up.
    A few examples:
    I met my best friend at the time, who I’ve now known for 23 years and has the title of longest standing friend in my life, when I was 7 years old. My family had just moved. Not a big move (about 20 miles), but for a 7 year old, I might as well have gone from Japan to Nigeria. Despite the short move, I had to change schools and would eventually build a whole new group of friends. The only problem in this situation was the fact that my parents moved mid-school year. It’s hard enough being “the new kid”, but matters are made worse when you’re dropped into a new school right after Christmas break. So I was completely alone.
    While standing outside of my class in a line following recess (must have been my first few days there), this kid walked up to my while he passed my classroom line on the way to his. He said, “Hey, you’re the kid, aren’t you?” When I replied affirmatively, he pushed hard and I flew back first into a thorny bush, writhing on my back like an upturned turtle. He and his friends laguhed and ran away, and some of my classmates saw what happened. I pulled myself up, shocked and angry, but didn’t complain, didn’t retaliate, and dind’t tell my teacher. I simply plotted.
    The next day, I waited int he same line but tried obsucring my presence by squeezing tightly between my classmates. I saw that kid walking by once again with his friends, and when he passed me, I jumped out and shoved him back as hard as I could. He flew into a car parked right in front of our line and set off the alarm of a BMW. He had hit the car door head first. He, like me, was shocked and in pain. He got up holding his head and ran away.
    The third day, he approached me and said, “Hi, I’m Zach. Want to come over to my house today and play?” We spent the next youthful years building tree houses (horribly), throwing rocks at cars, cutting plants with a small samurai sword, building forts, and doing what anyone would expect of young boys. We eventually played football together in high school and always stayed in touch, despite going to different univerities and living all over the place. We’re great buddies to this day and he just came out to visit me (I now live in Central Europe). We retold that story to a new friend of our and had a great laugh thinking back on how we met.
    The point is, boys shit test each other. We move in groups, and we’re not against gaining new members or getting rid of old ones. And we make these decisions based on shit tests and how you handle them. If I hadn’t pushed him back, or told on him, we likely never would have been friends. The problem is that lib adults too often interfere win these relations ithout any cause. They almost ALWAYS solve themselves, especially if it’s not the case of a traditional bully-weakling scenario.
    While that was a positive outcome, I rememver getting punished by teachers many times for trying to solve my own problems. If a bully attempted to bully me, I fought back. But often times, I’d get punished. I didn’t care – especially now looking back – if my mom punished me. She was being a mom and doing what she was supposed to do. It’s a mom’s job to give you perspective and make sure that you don’t ALWAYS resort to violence, or become a loose cannon. But my dad never had much to say in the matter. He always offered me a sort of silent approval. Both my parents had the “boys will be boys” attitude, even if my mom had to punish me in some way or another for causing a disturbance.
    I got into other fights and altercations growing up. Nothing egregious; just what you’d expect. I was able to find a more sustainable outlet for my thirst of physical punishment on the football field, and that’s when most of my school-based physical altercations stopped. Also because when you become the captain of the football team and date the captain of the cheerleading squade, you get more general respect and have fewer people picking on you or starting fights and more people wanting to hang out with you and admiring you.
    On the other hand, I understand why adults have to take a precautionary pursuit of punishment in regard to these physical matters. Long gone are the days of our grandfathers, and fathers, and Hell, even my younger years to some extent, when boys could settle their differences through fighting. People in the U.S. are so fucking disturbed and mentally screwed that you never know when some kid or guy is going to snap and shoot a bunch of people at a school or a public space. It’s actually scary to think that when I was living in the States it didn’t really shock me. School and public shootings were kind of this “thing” that just happaned. But now that I’m outside looking in, and living in a place where THIS NEVER HAPPENS, I read about school and public shootings back home and think, “Fuck, some screwed up kid could have turned on me like that.” By removing the avenues for a kid to solve their own problems through a quick and often effective fight in the yard, and by punishing people who defend themselves, kids turn to other avenues of revenge. Which are often way more violent. Of course, it’s not just because they were picked on or can’t properly defend themselves without suffering for it. It also has to do with many societal reasons, namely the collapse of the family unit, single parenting, lack of core value, be them masculine or otherwise. It’s a recipe for certain kids to snap and decide to blow some people away in a moment of perceieved glory and vengence.
    And I don’t want to hear for one second that it’s because “America is violent” and “violent movies and video games” and “too many guns.” Let’s call a spade a spade. America has always been violent and ruthless, even more so in the past; if kids weren’t playing violent video games, they were watching other violent movies like the Wild Bunch or some other Western or WWII movie, or reading violent comic book and short stories about cowboys and robbers and Natives and the Alamo and what have you; and guns – America has always had one hand on the trigger, from the founding of the country all the way to present day.
    There seems to be two causes of these uber-violent cases that we experience today: 1) no way for boys to effectively channel their masculinity, and 2) the lack of father figures, families, masculine virtues, and morals to live by. People are fucked today: lack of upward mobility, PC police everywhere, pussified libs and SJWs punishing any boy for doing anything remotely boyish or masculine, no ways to vent, no fulfillment, no manly role models to look up to or turn to.
    I’m going to tell my son one day to stand up for himself. And if he gets in trouble because of it, don’t sweat it. I’ll take care of that part by defending him. Be just, be an upstanding citizen, never abuse your power, don’t resort to grotesque violence, and for fuck’s sake, stand up for yourself – on the schoolyard or otherwise – and don’t take shit from anyone. If you’re REALLY in trouble, then you can ask for help or advice or guidance.
    Telling on someone in today’s world means several things, and none of them are good: 1) It makes you weak, 2) It makes you dependent on authority for help, and authority may not always be there or do the right thing, 3) It makes you vulnerable in the eyes of your peers and opens you to further ridicule or punishment, 4) You might not make a good friend when you least expect it.
    Sorry for the long rant. I actually have other stories of physical altercations, but don’t feel like writing anymore. And also sorry in advance for the shit spelling; I’m writing on a Hungarian keyboard and it really fucks with my ability to type in English.

  28. Good story. But still did not top the one about the feminist bitch getting the dude fired for Facebook posts

  29. When technology is advanced enough, bodies will be nothing more than a superficial accessory like clothing. The only original part of us will be our brain and in later years; just our consciousness.

  30. Thankfully my parents were not queasy about this kind of stuff.
    The first time some kid hit me, I told my parents and they told me I had to fight him back. I told them he was suspended for 3 days so I couldn’t. And they said you wait three days, then when he comes back, you walk up to him and you punch him in the face. Don’t say anything, just hit him, and if he swings back, keep hitting him.
    I did it (hit him several times) and my principal called my parents into a conference about it and told them he was extremely disturbed that I would wait three days just to get revenge like that.
    He was even more confused that not only were they neither surprised nor upset at what I did, but fully supported it. Told him that the 3 day suspension I would receive was well worth it.

  31. One word: Crowding.

    A large proportion of the population became bisexual, then increasingly homosexual, and finally asexual. There was a breakdown in maternal behavior. Mothers stopped caring for their young, stopped building a nest for them and even began to attack them, resulting in a 96 percent mortality rate in the two crowded pens. Calhoun coined a term—“behavioral sink”—to describe the decay.
    Plumbing the ‘Behavioral Sink’: Medical Historian Examines NIMH Experiments in Crowding.
    National Institute of Health
    nihrecord.od.nih.gov/newsletters/2008/07_25_2008/story1.htm

    Blue State = Crowded.

    The voting data suggest that people don’t make cities liberal — cities [CROWDING] make people liberal.
    Red State, Blue City: How the Urban-Rural Divide Is Splitting America
    The Atlantic | November 2012
    theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/11/red-state-blue-city-how-the-urban-rural-divide-is-splitting-america/265686/

    A country boy can survive.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cQNkIrg-Tk

  32. I wanted to burn the fictional ‘couple’s’ house down. Everyone needs to be aware, even if no molestation or beating occurs does NOT mean a child isn’t being psychologically abused, which is what same-sex ‘parenting’ is. No men or women engaged in deviant behavior should get their hands on children. I say the same for zoophiles and Walmart flashers.

    1. “Redpill” is, by definition, deviant behaviour, because it deviates from the social norm.
      By your definition any of your comrades shouldn’t be allowed access to children.

      1. obviously deviant in this context would be defined as psychologically abnormal, not politically abnormal. For crying out loud, don’t be a sperg.

      2. What’s the “social norm”? Guy meets girl, guy goes on date with girl, guy goes home with girl, guy bangs girl. Sounds like the social norm to me, oh and red pill also…..

      3. Pfffff. Stupid. Normal is heterosexuality. And you can not nor do you have any authority to attempt change my view of what is normal. Abnormal is homosexuality.

  33. My god this is just so fucking terrible. I want to hug the kid and do something to help him and at the same time i want to punch everyone that screwed him up.

  34. I’m going to use the notorious phrase “Studies have shown,” here, and I’m going to be too lazy to actually Google and link those studies, but I think my point still stands with or without those studies.
    Studies have shown that paedophiles have something wrong with their brains. They’re not criminals in the same sense as a thief who makes the decision to steal on the (to him) rational basis that he’ll make some money and probably won’t get caught – they’re criminally INSANE. Paedophiles molest children because their brain is diseased and gives them their sick urges.
    Now replace the word ‘paedophile’ in the above paragraph with the word ‘homosexual’ and the word ‘children’ with ‘young men’. Do you see what I’m trying to get at here?
    SJWs are among the first to cry for a man who is intimately involved with an teenage girl to be stung up and castrated. But they call for acceptance and love for homosexuals. Paedophiles and homosexuals are both just acting out the urges that their diseased brain gives them. IMHO, both should be offered treatment to control their urges and punished if they refuse treatment and remorselessly act out on those urges.

    1. Because consenting sex between adults is comparable to raping children… why?

      1. Let’s take the words of the most prominent gay rights activist in the UK, Peter Tatchell, who to this day is still invited onto popular television shows to discuss gay rights –
        “It is time society acknowledged the truth that not all sex involving children is unwanted, abusive, or harmful.”
        Now, many are of the opinion that this man and his comrades who believe the same should be burned alive. Your take?

        1. Tatchell spoke from his personal experience I believe, as someone who had had an experience while a younger teenager. If he doesn’t think he was harmed I don’t really see how one can contradict that.
          An adult who rapes children should be calmly and cleanly put out of their misery. Ok comrade?

        2. Hmmm, funny how so many ‘homosexuals’ were raped as children. What a random coincidence. Yeah, I’d say it harmed him. Turned him into a total degenerate. It’s called ‘recruitment’
          Hope he swings by Russia again sometime for another beating.

        3. If Thatchell, a man with a liking for the cock, did use those words he said “children”, he did not mention “younger teenager”. He doesn’t “think” he was “harmed”. Of course he doesn’t consider himself “harmed” he now enjoys the perversity that was forced on him when he was a child. The same with all homosexuals, they were “born that way”, or was it the abuse they suffered as children?

        4. No, not okay “comrade” you just said two different things. This is what I object too…this is why I’m so firmly against homosexualism – be consistent! Either you are for pedophilia or you are against it, period. This is too ugly a crime for moral relativism, so tough shit. Referencing your post above – you say his statement was because he was molested as a kid and then went on to say if no one was hurt than its okay. Ergo an act of pederasty is okay…so long as no one gets hurt. Ergo you condone that. Then you go on to say that adults that rape children are to be put out of their misery. I and everyone else here DO NOT THINK its appropriate for any adults to be messing around with kids sexually. You can try to split hairs with me that he wasn’t raped etc, it doesn’t matter, because even if it wasn’t rape its you people who seek to normalize this! And I were to see a 50 year old with a 12 year old boy or girl and my blood boils…but so long as “no one gets hurt” you’re okay with that. Fuck no!

        5. And why can’t we discuss this issue? Seriously, there is a HUGE connection between incidents of childhood molestation and homosexuality and everyone knows it. I understand why its not discussed from a political perspective, among other things it undermines a key cornerstone of the movement – the “born in” theory. But, for their own sake homosexuals need to be discussing this. Being molested is a terrible thing to experience and the only way to heal is to get it out there and talk about it, which will act to prevent future molestation. But, the “activists” will never do it in the same way sharpton will never look at real root causes for African American issues and that’s because it would be a threat to their power. After all its a lot easier bashing Christians than maybe addressing a real issue and that’s because the former is easy to do and the later is hard. Liberals don’t like hard things. So, nothing changes except now we cheer on the raping of innocent children. Yeah, nice compassionate, open and “loving” society here.

        6. I compare it in structure to how so-called ‘racial islam’ works.
          There are three group types of Muslims in Europe.
          1) 15% who hold mainstream views on pretty much everything, and denounce ‘extremism’
          2) 20% who are willing to act on ‘extreme’ views, willing to participate in bomb plots, beheadings, fly to Syria to help ISIS, organize rallies saying death to America, etc
          3) 65% who don’t act on their ‘extreme’ views, but do secretly hold them, and will tacitly support group #2 financially and morally. They will protect them by attacking group #1.
          This is roughly the same percentage breakdown as it relates to the so-called ‘homosexual community’. Most are not child molesters and wouldn’t dream of being directly indecent with children (as is evident by how few of them actually try to adopt). However, they almost see those that do as their kin, their brothers in struggle, and believe like Peter Tatchell’s disciples that fucking kids can help them ‘overcome’ prejudice and accept their hidden sexuality.
          It’s all tragically sick, but this breakdown is exactly why both European Muslims and sodomites are protected by a bubble of critical silence. Most importantly, they look out for their own. Something Christians, whites, men, etc. stopped doing a long time ago.

      2. NAMBLA, Butterfly Kisses, both homosexual lobby groups who strongly advocate for having sex with children.

        1. No, they’re paedophiles who infiltrated parts of the sexual revolution, and numerically irrelevant. Also, considering this website has advocated for 13 year olds to have sex, glass houses pal.

        2. Infiltrated?! hahaha. Look up Harry Hay, he practically STARTED the ‘gay rights’ movement and was a huge pedophile advocate.

        3. No, they’re what happens when you have a “sexual” “revolution”. This is what your revolution leads too.

        4. Along with many of the leaders former and present of homosexualism. Heck, the designer of the equals symbol is one.

        5. I hope, I PRAY, that what’s just happened with planned parenthood (selling baby parts) happens to homosexualism, namely, bringing to light the connection between homosexuality and pedophilia. People deserve the truth and right now they’ve been mislead by the fucking tv that all homosexuals are these fuzzy stuffed animal types. Meanwhile while everyone else is in this trance they just keep taking and taking and taking and taking. And its leading to pedophilia.

        6. Not sure I follow when you say “glass houses”. You only really need to see homosexual parents who take their children to pride parades which involve open display of embracing a hypersexual culture. During the last parade I saw men walking around openly displaying their bare buttocks while holding hands and waving around flags which displayed sex acts in front of two mothers and their pre-teen daughter. You don’t need to be a genius to figure out something is inherently wrong with this picture. Who knows what disgusting acts are being committed behind closed doors when those two mothers are at home alone with their daughter.

    2. “Paedophiles molest children because their brain is diseased and gives them their sick urges.”
      About 20 years ago, I had course with a practicing psychologist who worked with criminal sexual deviants in the past. He told us the only treament that was found to change their behavoir was through negative reinforcement (in this case, shock therapy) which lessoned their urges. The only problem was that once there was no longer any negative reinforcement to contain the urges, they would go right back to same pattern of behavior.
      A pedophile doesn’t “change” and never let anyone tell you different.

      1. I’m aware of that, and any mercy shown to paedophiles would have to be contingent on them receiving ONGOING treatment in perpetuity as frequently as recommended by professionals in the field. And I’m thinking here of the ‘downloaded kiddie porn once’ kind of paedophile – any paedophile who has ever molested a child ought to be strung up by their offending body part.

        1. A convicted child molester is on average on his 25th vicitim before finally getting caught and sentenced.
          No mercy should be given to them after the first.

  35. The right of a child to have a mother and a father, should always come before the right of a gay person to adopt a child.
    Always.

  36. It just breaks my heart to see children experimented on by these liberals. To raise a child requires selflessness. homosexuals are not being selfless when they adopt or resort to synthetic as it pertains to children. The most optimal environment for a child is to be raised by a committed male and female pair who are the biological parents. This used to be obvious to everyone from simpleton to genius, but enter political correctness and such a profound and beautiful statement is rejected because it might…offend someone. Offend someone…yeah, that sort of has a selfish vein to it, yes? The tragedy of today is that we flippantly presume that it just takes “love” or a “village”? No, humans are complex animals and at birth incomplete needing tremendous care and resources to effective rear. Nothing compares to a biological Mom and Dad, especially from a child’s perspective. And what about this connection – the same people pushing for ssm, homosexualism etc are the same people who push for abortion and, as its just been revealed, the selling of baby parts. We’re up to ~ 55 million aborted babies…pardon me you liberals are said something about just “love” being the solution?

  37. It’s all part of the plan to destroy the West, once the greatest culture known to humanity.

    1. You won’t find this shit in China or the Middle East. But I bet that leaders there are quite happy to see the West destroying itself.

  38. I bet if this was written by a fag the little boy would have been raped
    And of course the fag writer would be speaking from his experiences getting raped as child or doing the rape on a child

  39. I read a hotline help site where a boy was fearful for asking for help because his single mom’s gay friend raped him until his anus was bleeding when she wasn’t in the house he tries to say things to keep the gay friend ou of the house t but is usually unsuccessfu

  40. Interesting tale. But the reality is, it’s more likely little Timothy would be carried surrogate by the gay guys’ lesbian friend. Hence the predilection for cyborg bears and bugs 😉

  41. Left out the parts about the sex parties with total strangers that the fathers put on. And how the gay freinds molested the kid. Oh, and don’t forget the domestic violence and drug/alcohol abuse that’s something like 80% higher with homosexual couples. Great atmosphere to raise kids.

  42. Oh yeah, and then there’s Paula Poundstone. Hollywood comediene who adopted a slew of young girls. Then got caught molesting a bunch of them.

  43. Randy and Michael threw a vegan dinner party – salad was the only non-meat at this party though.

  44. ::yawn:: This story looks a bad highschool english assignment. Sometimes grown adults hetero and homo are perverts. And thats scary of sad. But this notion that this is a normal experience of a child raised by a gay couple…is batshit. The author obviously needs to get some help for his fears and insecurities that caused him to write this story. I have many hetero friends raised by gay parents and they are some of the healthiest, kindest, and confident people I know.

  45. can someone tell me the moral of the story? I’m just not good in reading and interpreting them. could be English is not my 1st language or I just always need a direct approach in telling info.

  46. so….having two dads who are simps hurt the boy. if they wouldve said “hey dont hit ppl but if they have a weapon, smash on em.” he’d be in a diff situation mentally

  47. The first two thirds of the story resemble my life and the life of heterosexual couples. But the last one is anti-gay bias commuting that through. And the whole forcing him to dress up? I know NO gay couple that does that.

    1. This guy has been trolling Daily Stormer and my blog and is a big problem…
      Troll ZOGBOT Jacob:
      http://cipworldwide.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Jacob-Blaustein-150×150.jpg
      You don’t know when to quit do you?
      If you are going to keep trolling this dailystormer website like you trolled VGB, and like you even got booted of skeptics forum, I’m going to keep telling everyone where you live. If you want to role play the victim just because I share this publicly available information about you, as you use your real name it isn’t hard to find. If you want to play that victim, then WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU STILL DOING HERE TROLLING AFTER YOU WERE GIVEN YOUR MARCHING ORDERS? As you know I’m not in America, but you may tempt fate if you keep coming on here.
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8ec2195790b8d2ca5956058f32bfd0442de9923743f0d5c7fe8d4192f9d72a38.png
      Here’s news about this clown proving he has a mental ilness and barely passed college with his jew charity for mentally handicapped austic special people, who couldn’t get in college the way normal people do.
      http://cipworldwide.org/cip-blog/cip-amherst-students-thrive-at-daemen-college/
      If you start defending or “trying to debunk” some video that’s critical of some gay child fucking dog fucking boy murder plotting faggot cop that even the FBI put 3 press releases out on Christopher Kent Bowersox, that just also happened to stop me seeing my first born child being born, that I latter thrashed in court you are going to get an arse whooping boy.
      See the story on this @gaydads baby flesh trader employed fag zogbot here: https://victimsofgaybullying.wordpress.com/2015/08/01/scoutmaster-accused-of-boy-rape-the-same-day-boyscouts-lift-ban-on-fags/
      As an employee of @gaydads baby flesh trader, he knew that story was real. To equate what this little jew turd did, he teamed up with a fake lawyer to make a fabricated police complaint, that will be dealt with shortly as I recorded all correspondence with his fake lawyer with delusions of grandeur friend Matthew Ellard – see here. If I was bad as this evil little jewfag I’d first find the autistic guy that raped his mother and say how wonderful he is (that would make us even for him praising Bakersfield pedo cop Bowersox), then I’d make a false police complaint against him for good measure.
      https://victimsofgaybullying.wordpress.com/2015/07/27/interesting-post-by-my-latest-online-stalker-matthew-ellard-celebrating-the-death-of-a-gay-jew-who-dies-from-public-sex-with-a-black-man-aids/
      And below is the mainstream news coverage of the gay child fucking dog sex loving boy murder plotting criminal fag cop this clown tried to defend.

      Here’s a tribute video to a gay animal sex loving JIDF activist just like Jacob. I can see this video was inspired by real people. Art imatiting life indeed.

      Here is why Russia made those “anti-gay” pedophile anti-propaganda laws..
      Australian Gay Marriage Activists raped a Russian baby – the back story is here. Fag member for Sydney Alex Greenwich MP called Russia “Homophobic” in his letter to Bob Pedo Carr for cutting off supply of white skinned boys for $5000 after one US and one Australian gay marriage activist “gaydads” couple bought one, that were members of Alex’s Australian Marriage Equality and filled the little boys passport up with stamps on a global Gay Marriage Activists baby fuck tour, that was made possible by the Australian government breaking it’s own requirements for DNA tests for surrogate parents, and they were of no biological relation. See the link to hear a JEW ABC journalist praise the baby fuckers and listen to them call Russia, Australia and America “homophobic” for delaying their 20 month anal child rape and since two week old child sex toy from leaving Russia… with love. Who can deny love right? Gay marriage is just two men loving each-eachother and fucking young Russia orphans. The next photo is from a Singapore Gay Activist’s blog who posted this after the baby rapists were arrested to use this child rape victim as a poster boy for gay rights and decrimilizing sodomy in Singapore. That’s right – gay marraige activists are using gaydads babyrape victims as a poster boy for their movement. FYI The Signapore government just prosecuted this faggot and first man to own a gay orgyroom sauna for scandalizing the courts and defaming the former prime minister. It looks like they need to finish him off.
      https://victimsofgaybullying.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/8235e-newton-truong.jpg
      Gay Dads BabyRape Victim being used as gay marriage poster-boy after the rapists arrested by world famous gay activist here -> http://yawningbread.wordpress.com/2013/01/20/pastor-ambushes-goh-chok-tong-with-demand-to-defend-377a/
      Singapore government prosecuting the faggot: http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2015/03/singapore-court-fines-blogger-for-comments-on-gay-sex-cases/
      https://victimsofgaybullying.wordpress.com/2015/07/16/when-two-tribes-go-to-war-russia-vs-samesame-vgb-v-mattakersten-h%d0%b0%d1%81%d1%82%d0%be%d1%8f%d1%89%d0%b0%d1%8fc%d0%b5%d0%bc%d1%8c%d1%8f-stormer9k-realfamily-v-gaydads/
      And remember my dad and my friend are being prosecuted for the crime of critising published gay marriage activists raping babies. You must not dislike the act of gay marriage activist baby sex, because you must not vilify boylovers.net in action. You must not critize gay parenting. All of them need their little boys and the state says you must not get in NAMBLA and boylovers.net way (see the link above – or see the caselaw John Sunol V Garry Burns 25 June 2015, compared to this video http://tinyurl.com/abcplugspedos – it’s a crime to link to it 3 faggot judges ruled)
      https://www.caselaw.nsw.gov.au/decision/558b3c8ee4b0f1d031de9eb8
      https://i1.wp.com/i.imgur.com/JxcQqwa.png

  48. If you’re going to put a transgender in a story, the least you can do is not call it a gay relationship. Even if you describe it as a fake straight relationship. You could make them a drag queen if that’s what you’re going for, but if Michael is trying to become Michelle and Randy’s okay with that, obviously they would refer to their relationship as straight and it would rub off on Timothy.

  49. I’m not sure there’s an actual point to this story. Is it a true story?

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