3 Ways To Fight Back Against The Feminist Tidal Wave

Today’s society is being saturated by feminist messages. We know the manosphere is doing its best to produce a revolution, yet we should be giving more guidance to men wanting to push back the tide. I’ve compiled three techniques that any man can use to change our society for the better.

1. Fat shaming year round

Fat shaming itself is not hard to do. Roosh and company have had great success with fat shaming week, but it wasn’t a continuous assault. If it worked in just a week, imagine the results if we kept it up for years at a time. Masculine men everywhere can subtly fat shame every day.

Every time you see a fat chick out on public, take a picture and upload it. You can also start writing and preaching truthful anti-fat facts. Call out fat chicks eating high-calorie food. Tell the women around you that high quality men won’t be seen near them if they gain weight and that negating their physical appearance is an obvious sign of a social class defect and mental illness. Even something simple like chuckling when a porker wants to be near you is a simple method that we all can do. Keep the pressure high and intense. Change will come shortly when most men stop rewarding and aiding porkers.

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2. Bridge the gap of ignorance

I would recommend every red pill guy to try to understand feminists/blue pillers. I’m not saying to empathize with them, but you must know how they operate so you can understand on how to dismantle them. Spend just a few minutes a day reading their material and watching their media. Look at how they market their image and what type of tones they convey. Even join there organizations and be an underground troll.

I learned a whole lot about transsexuals by doing these steps unintentionally. I was the typical college liberal do-gooder who worked for an LGBT group as an ally. I learned all the stupid terms that transsexual freaks used. I can argue against transsexualism for hours. I know their secrets and what stuff they’re hiding. Every blue pill/mangina/feminist/white knight has something they’re hiding. There is a closet of skeletons waiting to be unearthed. Immerse yourself in their world to learn how to fight their agendas and to reveal their weaknesses.

3. Use creative tactics

The manosphere is full of people with a diversity of talent and perspective. Athlone Mcginnis and Virgle Kent represent for us educated black men. Christian McQueen knows nightlife like an attractive girl on Instagram knows thirst. 2Wycked can diagnose somebody better than the majority of psychologists in America. Bring something to the mix that you know well. I’m not the best writer or public speaker and even I managed to contribute articles that hurt the enemy.

I used community social shaming to change my city for the better. In my part of town we have a transsexual freak problem. Losers from the surrounding states (NJ,NY,OH,DE) come to mine (PA). The hormones flow like a river and an LGBT center that will remain nameless is responsible for it. The problem is that I would be minding my business and a man with heels would harass me. Most of the time it was for sexual services or drugs. These individuals also have parades and events consistently fucking up Philly. I was sick and tired of their narcissistic solipsism.

I started to call out these transsexual freaks out in public, using my previous experiences with transsexual activism. I learned back in the day that transsexuals have this crazy expectation that they’re women since birth. They retcon their personal history and are always bitching about not being seen as a chick. In my mind they were trying to pass themselves off as “legitimate” but they were faking. They weren’t “authentic” at all, so  I started a local Philly trend by calling them bootlegs out in public. It wasn’t just dudes who were sick of the lying and trickery. We even had “authentic” real deal chicks tired of these male fakers calling themselves “lesbians”. My small area of Philly started to spread it around to the whole city. I even was contacted by some of my buddies in New York who started to use my terminology as well. A small local meme has crossed state lines.

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We need all masculine men to start using those three techniques to make the world a better place. Protecting masculinity should be a task for every man. Even if the battles are small-scale, every battle won makes the war easier to win. It also means getting rewarded with a society of attractive, thin, pleasant women around instead of the current breed of pajama wearing land-whales with deep voices and short hair.

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246 thoughts on “3 Ways To Fight Back Against The Feminist Tidal Wave”

  1. Bootleg.. That’s great. There aren’t many trannies in my area but I will definitely utilize it whenever given the opportunity.

  2. One amusing thing: I find that degenerates really can’t handle having their “intelligence” insulted, a very Alinsky-esque tactic which shuts them right up.

  3. The irony is that the reason trannies insist on being women is because women are better treated than men in our society.

    1. Good point. I wonder if some trannies were once über beta males who simply could not take their second-class status in america and decided to become women.

      1. One interesting statistic that no one has a good answer for, is that most transsexualism is male-to-female. Very little transsexualism is female-to-male, even though it’s much easier for a woman to pass as a man after taking hormone replacement therapy. I’m not into the social sciences at all, but I believe that stat has almost no research into the question of “why?”
        I suspect, that most MtF transsexualism is a result of precocious males accurately perceiving their 2nd class status in society well before they have formed any kind of sexual-identity. This is likely further compounded with a mother (perhaps only a mother) who discourages masculine behavior while flaunting her feminine privileges while she’s still young.

        1. Gay is a desire for relations with men as a man. TS is different, it is the desire to occupy the social position of the female.

        2. “Very little transsexualism is female-to-male, even though it’s much
          easier for a woman to pass as a man after taking hormone replacement
          therapy.”
          Strangely, they all kind of look alike. Like “Chaz” Bono or the “pregnant man”.

        3. All the BPA and estrogen mimickers in the plastics must of blasted them, who were already super betas, right into complete mental illness.

        4. Even a lot of gay men wouldn’t date a TS because they like men. And some TS like women only another reason why rad fems are scared of them because they think they’d be raped by these trannies. I doubt anyone wants to have sex with these ugly pigs besides themselves anyways.

    2. Bingo. And it reveals a lot to us, doesn’t it, among other things the malleability of humans and how creating exogenous incentives can control human behavior in extreme ways. It IS better to be a woman today versus a man since 1. We’re a socialists despotic state; 2. The state has never been this big and 3. The state only favor females with, among other things, female only programs et al., – that’s an incentive structure. So, it shouldn’t be a surprise that “trannies” are en vogue, and to boot, now with the state based privileges to trannies, which are incentives…the option to become a tranny has never been more compelling. Importantly, what we must understand is the role incentives play in compelling people to act certain ways. Given the proper incentive structure you could create people who cut their limbs off as a form of sexual gratification. Alternatively, what’s good is that minus artificial incentives these effects vanish.

      1. Trannies are created from small, tiny, thin, frail men that grew up on a diet of Internet. So rather than be picked on as weak men and be challenged to develop as males – they coddle each other on the Internet – social media, You Tube – because acceptance, because diversity, because inclusion provides a nice safe, smug shield to hide behind, right alongside the natural cunty bitches..
        Now as women they are special snowflakes, they can whine and complain just like real females and get away with it. Now they are popular. Since women hate men so much – more and more men are turning to these altered males.
        Haha what a pathetic joke this society has eveolved into.

        1. “Trannies are created from small, tiny, thin, frail men that grew up on a diet of Internet.”
          Was that a dig at us?

    3. Your hard core feminist ideologues absolutely detest transsexuals, because the mtf ones are suspected of trying to get female privileges while the ftm ones are accused of abandoning the sisterhood. You’ll note that this is a good tactic to tear down patriarchy theory, because if patriarchy exists why would any man want to become a woman?
      If you see a feminist use the phrase “born women, identifying as women only” you’ll know you are dealing with a hateful bigot and this is the gap in her armor through which to strike the meaty vitals.

      1. Political correctness have ruled in favour of the freaks (big surprise) so the feminists will have no choices but to swallow it, lol!

        1. Feminists, indeed, do hate trannies, but not for the reasons you suppose.
          Feminists hate transexuals because transexuals are women’s competitors. Every transexual that scores with a man is a defeat for women everywhere.
          It works like this, to the average feminist, every tranny who doesn’t loathe men is a dangerous ally at best, a feared and hated enemy at worst. And the more passable the trannie is, the more feared and hated they will be by the feminist.

        2. Dude you have no idea what you’re talking about. You get that from some nazi book you read? How cute. Try actually listening to anybody but this asshole who writes this shit and the KKK and you’d realize that.

    4. They’re certainly given a ton of sympathy by “activists”.
      Men off themselves regularly and you don’t hear a peep.
      Trans women off themselves and it’s like some precious little animal is being driven to extinction.

  4. Also:
    Don’t get married, attend weddings, give gifts or acknowledge marriage
    Don’t cohabit.
    No joint property.

  5. Once you have a solid understanding of the the red pill the next thing to do is #2. Like they say, “Seek first to understand, then to be understood.” Something the feminist movement does a bad job at because for them is all about ME! ME!

  6. women understand that feminism is a negative force…. you can bring it up in conversation…. just likely brush on it in a derogatory way and see what happens…. women are easily led, so a little light reprogramming is possible in many situations….
    you also have a lot of leeway with sexism… for example i might curse out a woman driver who doesn’t indicate, when i have a girlfriend in the car… just to make the point that the sexes are not equal…. a bit of old school ‘Mad Men’ type lingo and attitude goes a long way….

  7. My favourite rebuttal is just to subtly (sometimes anything but subtle) point out how thick they are in allying with a clutch ideology like feminism which will never be able to stand in the face of reasoned argument.

      1. Hundreds of thousands of foreign tourists visit India every year and return safely home, with many falling in love with the country and staying on. While caution must be exercised while traveling, gang rape is by no means the norm for tourists or even citizens. Yes, India has crime. What country doesn’t? But gang rape is by no means the norm. I would advise tourists to always travel in small groups of at least 2 people. While many go solo around India with no problem, its always better to act with caution just in case, particularly for women.
        Indian citizens are requesting the government to implement the death penalty for rape.

        1. death penalty for rape?
          and what is the punishment for murder? I doubt it is the death penalty.
          So in other words, they want to treat rape as a far more serious crime than murder?
          Indians are retarded pieces of shit. I hope Pakistan blows them all to hell soon.

        2. It goes state by state. Some states in India do utilize death penalty for murder. Its a controversial subject, much like in the States.

        3. You do realize what this will cause, right? If a man rapes a woman, he will logically think “Well, I might as well just murder her after raping her, because either way, I will get the death penalty”.
          Punishing rape by death will vastly increase murder of women. Doesn’t take a genius to figure this out.
          And on the subject of rape. What about the tens of millions of indian men who have been RAPED in divorce court through the use of such anti-male laws like IPC 498a?
          Oh, it’s okay for a woman to financially rape a man in divorce. Nothing wrong with that, of course.

        4. this is rather true. the feminst ideology is very strong there thanx to the brits and now the americans. theres a rapper named honey singh whose show got canceled because local feminsts found his song offencive to women. and rap in india is very tame compred to ours. feelings trumps facts nowadays.
          before that delhi rape i never heard of india being dangerous but that moment got hijacked by feminsts to load up their ideas and”stats”. u can wiki rape stats per country and youll see india is third behind south africa and usa in total number of rapes. in terms of per capita india is slightly higher then canada but lower then greece dont know why congo isnt in the survey though. dont let feelings trump facts. get the data before that incident painted india. just sad that feminst have so much power that 1 incident can ruin a nations reputation.

        5. “You do realize what this will cause, right?”
          Why are you arguing this point with me? Go to India and argue it with them. I’m just informing you what’s up with the place. Sheesh.
          Get a passport. See the world and talk to people.

        6. “theres a rapper named honey singh whose show got canceled because local feminsts found his song offencive to women.”
          That’s not entirely true. There was cultural backlash as Honey Singh’s lyrics go against long held Indian culture and values.
          ” and rap in india is very tame compred to ours.”
          Rap has no place in India.

        7. “Punishing rape by death will vastly increase murder of women. Doesn’t take a genius to figure this out.
          Although the logic of this statement is self evident, no woman will ever acknowledge it.
          Why? Cold hard truth… Women don’t *really* give a fuck about other women – but they do care about punishing Men.

        8. One doesn’t necessarily follow the other, unless you think everyone capable of rape is equally capable of murder.

        9. Any divorced man can tell you the truth of the statement that women don’t even care as much about their own welfare as they do about inflicting pain on a man they no longer want.

    1. Banker-led policies had led indirectly to male children being given preference to female ones – so much so, that in India, in younger age groups the male to female ratio is as high as 118 men to 100 women. In a male-heavy environment like this, crimes like this are to be expected. War and poor health care were some of the reasons why in the past, more females survived than males, hence there was more poosy to go around. It doesn’t excuse the crimes these men do, but it does bring into light why gender ratios and why having a culture of sweet feminine women is important to any society.

      1. “Banker-led policies had led indirectly to male children being given preference to female ones”
        Oh please. Read the Puranas (before banking was even invented) and a preference for male children was evident then also. There are reasons for it but it has nothing to do with banking.
        And there’s no reason you should feel any sort of collective shame over individual rapists in India. Its not your fault. Only they are responsible for their karma and karma phal. Just as gang rapists here in the States are solely responsible for theirs and non-rapist Americans need not feel shame on their behalf.

  8. Good article……unfortunately in the Socialist hellhole where I live (UK) using “offensive” language (specially to a member of some weird minority)…such as calling a trannie a “Bootleg” would not only land you in jail but also earn you the label of “hater” in the local newspaper….

    1. calling a trannie a “Bootleg” would not only land you in jail but also earn you the label of “hater” in the local newspaper

      You’d say that but I seem to recall Suzanne Moore and Julie Burchill managed to do far worse in the national newspapers and went un-arrested.

      1. They are both journalists AND women!
        I can guarantee that a non-journalist MAN would be treated somewhat differently.

  9. Beta’s, Mangiana’s, and White Knights must be shamed into manhood if we are ever going to defeat femanazism. This is most important.

    1. The reality is, there are lots of “manly men” – such as career soldiers, professional athletes, policemen, firefighters, outdoorsmen, etc who are hardened blue pill addicts. You don’t need to make them any more of a “man,” especially considering they are probably more traditionally masculine than a lot of red pill dudes. You need to help them take off the rose-colored glasses. It’s hard, because a lot of their macho man self-identity is based on their belief that it’s good to be a protector.

  10. Again bad information from ROK, I love you guys but fat shaming and going against transsexualism will not defeat feminism or even turn the tide. Here’s a real list:
    1.) ADVOCATE LEGALIZED PROSTITUTION (prostitution will stop all of you thirsty dudes from paying for dates and will cause a drought in the “dating” scam, thereby causing a panic amongst women. Face it men go on dates for the hope of sex, poor bastards, just advocate honest prostitution)
    2.) DO NOT GET MARRIED IN THE WEST
    3.) DO NOT ATTEND WEDDINGS NOR ENCOURAGE ANY MALE TO DO SO
    4.) MAKE USE OF SURROGATE MOTHERS IF CHILDREN ARE WANTED
    5.) VOICE RECORD ALL SEX SESSIONS TO AVOID FALSE-RAPE CLAIMS
    6.) DO NOT CELEBRATE VALENTINES DAY OR MOTHER’S DAY (Yeah Mothers’ Day! What have these single moms done but destroy America? Fuck them all, may the baby boomers go back to hell from whence they came! Mothers on an aggregate scale haven’t been worthy of celebration since the 1950s. And if you are the son of a single mom, fuck her! She probably drove your dad away)
    7.) DONATE SPERM TO THE LOCAL SPERM BANK, IF YOU ARE ON THE SITE, THEN YOU REPRESENT THE LAST VESTIGE OF MASCULINITY IN THE WEST AND SHOULD PROPAGATE YOUR GENES AND GET PAID FOR IT WHILE FORGOING CHILD-SUPPORT AND A NAGGING BITCH
    8.) SUPPORT ANY AND ALL COUNTERREVOLUTIONARY MOVEMENTS AGAINST OUR CULTURALLY MARXIST GOVERNMENT, WHETHER DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY, BE THAT AGENT PROVOCATEUR! “TOTALER KRIEG!”
    9.) DO NOT REPORT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE NO MATTER HOW BRUTAL THE BEATDOWN IS, ESPECIALLY IF IT’S LOUD MOUTHED BLACK BITCH OR WORSE A WHITE FEMINIST SEX IN THE CITY AMERICUNT, THEY HAD IT COMING!
    10.) DON’T COHABITATE OR MOVE AND NEVER COME BACK IF YOU WANT TO GET MARRIED.

    1. Ich frage euch: Wollt ihr den totalen
      Krieg? Wollt ihr ihn, wenn nötig, totaler und radikaler, als wir ihn uns
      heute überhaupt erst vorstellen können?

      1. Totalen Krieg die ganze Zeit againts Marxismus! Es lebe Amerika, Gott und die christlich-abendländischen Kultur!

    2. Thank you. No offense to RedPiller, but this is a much better list. Can’t see any of the solutions he offered doing much…

    3. 7.) DONATE SPERM TO THE LOCAL SPERM BANK, IF YOU ARE ON THIS SITE, THEN YOU REPRESENT THE LAST VESTIGE OF MASCULINITY IN THE WEST AND SHOULD PROPAGATE YOUR GENES AND GET PAID FOR IT WHILE FORGOING CHILD-SUPPORT AND A NAGGING BITCH

      One thousand times no, absolutely do not do this if you want to combat feminism. Why the hell would you make it easier for women to be single mothers if the goal is to disempower feminism? Unmarried mothers are their f-ing trump card for government handouts because everyone wants to do things “for the children”. The reality is your DNA is not much better or worse than the next guy and your participation in a reclaiming of societal masculinity has nothing to do with your DNA.

      1. Nope, feminism started in societies where most women and most mothers where indeed married.

        1. Since most societies historically have had most women married, this is hardly a meaningful statistic.

        2. It remains meaningful to one thing, at least to the claim that feminism depends on single mothers.
          That is, unless feminism have pretty much lost the support of married women.

        3. single / lesbian motherhood is pretty damn central to feminism. The common denominator is the absence of men and demonstrating the superfluity of men as a providing for women, for family, or as providing any kind of necessary parenting (i.e. as some kind of necessary or desirable male or masculine role model). Married feminists rarely dispute the idea that men are quite dispensable, even if they may not necessarily regard them as redundant. But don’t count on it, one of the founders of queer theory eve kosofsky is married to a man but describes it as a ‘vanilla’ relationship

        4. In that case, feminism would not have been able to emerge in the first place.
          Feminism emerged at a time where married, heterosexual women and men where the majority and certainly the ones making the rules so to write.
          Feminism was able to emerge because these married women and their men after them, listened to its rethoric and eventually consented to give it power.
          Without that, feminism would be a powerless, insignificant and practically unknown evil today.

    4. QUOTE: ” DONATE SPERM TO THE LOCAL SPERM BANK, IF YOU ARE ON THIS SITE, THEN YOU REPRESENT THE LAST VESTIGE OF MASCULINITY IN THE WEST AND SHOULD PROPAGATE YOUR GENES AND GET PAID FOR IT WHILE FORGOING CHILD-SUPPORT AND A NAGGING BITCH”
      WTF? The above suggestion which is complete and utter stupidity. You put your jizz in a sperm bank and if some cunt uses it to get pregnant you will be liable to support her and her womb turd she shits out.
      The confidentiality of donors that used to be in place are no longer. Sure the institutions you promise you of discretion, but all it takes is a fucking judge to simply demand that they turn over your data and then you’re fucked.
      Cases of this have been well documented throughout the USA.
      Pull your head out of your ass, moron.

    5. Strongly disagree Number 7.
      Why would any self-respecting Man want to give up his sacred seed without any say in who uses it. Shit, what’s to stop two fucked up lesbians using it? That’s your fucking kid FFS.
      And what’s to stop them hunting you down through your DNA and getting some judge to order you to pay child support?

      1. #7 is terrrible advice. when the kid grows up and comes looking for his real daddy, youre fucked.

      2. They’ve actually done this already. Some lesbos went on welfare, and they hunted down the sperm donor to pay child support. Look up William Marotta.

        1. Sorry, but that guy was a moron. Why would you ever arrange to be a sperm donor over Craigslist??!! With no doctors involved…
          Deserved it for being stupid.

      3. Quite right, Lance’s post is all about the economics of sex, something women under instinctively and which men, typically drooling from the chops like dogs on heat still need to understand in any meaningful form, yet on no. 7 he decides to give ‘control’ over his principal asset (why do you think they call it the money shot in porn) to the charity shop. I understand why he has made the mistake: according to evolutionary theory it should be about propagating your genes through any means whatsoever – well if that’s the case just go into the ladies instead of the men’s and jizz on a toilet seat. It probably won’t make you feel particularly fulfilled though. Sperm banks are just one more aspect of reproduction taken out of the control of men, when sperm production is pretty much the only reproductive control we have.

    6. Great list, I like to emphasize to men to never hire or help women at work whenever possible.

      1. Would you have a problem with a woman encouraging other women to not hire or help men at work?

        1. Look at any field where females have infiltrated. They quickly eliminate all males and totally dominate the field. They will always hire women only. Examples: K-12 teaching, HR.

    7. Due to righteous indignant protestations from my fellow Kings on the proposition of #7, I hereby revoke it as a feasible option. DO NOT DONATE SPERM. The genetic meek will inherit America as a result of alphas not propagating their genes.

      1. Are “alpha genes” still alpha when they are recombined with the genetic detritus of socially inept spinsters? Historically, 20% of women have failed to reproduce. There’s a reason for this: give Darwin a chance.
        Furthermore, who wants to condemn a kid to eighteen years of being raised by one of them? Or, worse, a couple of man-hating feministas. Talk about cruelty…

      1. Feminist fucking troll from Jezebel. Aren’t you missing out on your transgendered feminist liberation studies degree somewhere?

        1. Yeah sorry. Not a dumb Jezebel bitch. In my day brown people knew their place in the world and that was tobshut up and now my fucking lawn. Good thing you arebrown, it makes it easy to identify you as the piece of stool you are. ROFL

        2. sounds like you’re just angry Lance and his buddies won’t be donating sperm to your kind any more. Is that it? Were you hoping for some sperm from the sperm bank to fertilise your special lawn?

        3. Yeah, no. Fucking brown people need to know their place. Which is doing my yard work.
          Brown people are disgusting non-humans who need to shut their mouths and know their places. Which is actually a step lower than the girls and homos. They aren’t fit to call themselves betas even, let alone human.

    8. Are you seriously condoning domestic violence in #9? You must surely realise that violence does not positively impact a woman in the way that male-to-male figthing can sometimes (though by no means always) be a healthy emotional vent. A man who has lost all hope for society and stands by to watch it burn, is no better than the feminist he denounces. Have some integrity, man.

      1. Seriously Greg? For 5-6 fucking decades now, women have been shouting equality in all facets of life now, with the exception of a few women and I mean few, you should not come to the aid of any woman in this country. They need to learn the hard way. They want to fight along side real soldiers in battle, so let them find out the hard way that they’re reflexes are slower and their biology isn’t adept for fighting. Let these whores find out when these savages are raping and beating them down, that they need the protection of a strong patriarchy. It’s men like you who keep white-knighting bitches and thus keep feminism alive. Only a complete and utter withdrawal of all male support and sympathy will usher in a collapse. There is no other way to ameliorate the system then by these means. Believe it or not this is also the most peaceful way too, either this or armed insurrection against our Marxist state.

        1. you don’t play a zero sum game with women. You argue for a “a complete and utter withdrawal of all male support / sympathy to usher in a collapse (of feminism / marxism). Feminists tried their own secession, their own separatism. It didn’t work and people laughed at them. Feminism only came into its own when it took culture head on (capturing institutions, working to change representations).

        2. Also, how is your stance any different from the “culturally Marxist feminist” dogma you complain about? If domestic violence is wrong, then it doesn’t suddenly become less wrong when a woman commits it against a man.

        3. Mobius feminism only achieved its Carpe Diem in the West due to numerous organizations and political outlets that funded it and supported. When the CIA and the Rockefeller Foundation supports your cause, it has a good shot at pervading and corrupting institutions. This could be a viable option for men, EXCEPT men do not have any support of that type in this country or the West period. The powerbrokers that be decided a long time ago that it was better to divide women against men and thereby destroy the foundational basis of the family. Men have no other option but to withdraw and hope that women beg for men to come back and establish a patriarchal civilization. Things will have to get bad, and we must avoid any overture to assist them prematurely or we’ll have a repeat of what we already have. Women will have to petition the powers that be themselves for change because men will not achieve it. The day when lynchmobs of women start looking for the Gloria Steinem types en masse is when we’ll start a full recovery. Any other way is quixotically unrealistic.

        4. radical separatist masculism doesn’t sound much better than rad feminism. The latter are pretty loopy and they are easy to ridicule on account of it. Re. the CIA & the Rockefeller foundation – there needs to be some proper corroborative research to support or explode that argument. Steinem was on the payroll or something for some reason….that doesn’t mean the CIA are out to get Jason Bourne because he’s an alpha male. As for capitalism – it obviously likes the idea of both men and women having to work …. that’s economics which is …prior … to sex and politics by and large – if you want to change it you have to make the economic case, which incidentally feminists often do quite well (e.g. the economy would be bigger if 50% of managers were women etc…..which it wouldn’t be). Non-cooperation may or not may be effective. As for “Men have no other option but to withdraw and hope that women beg for men to come back and establish a patriarchal civilization” that comes across as desperate. Moreover I can’t think of anything less persuasive than inviting women back to a thing openly labelled as patriarchy. You might as well build a basement, and put a sign up saying ‘dungeon’ and wait patiently for the hot chicks to wonder in. It isn’t going to happen, why because women don’t want to live in something they currently understand in terms of loss of independence & personhood (yeah I know that term’s straight from the fem lexicon). Women may or may not respond to dominance, or male leadership etc. – but even if they do they will at best be conflicted about something presented as a return to the ‘bad old days’. MGTOW may care little for seduction, but they must still practice persuasion.

    9. 4 and 7 are terrible advice. Every sperm has an umbilical cord attached to your wallet. As MGTOW and welfare for single mothers becomes more unsustainable, they will search the ends of the earth to find you, charge you back child-support, and throw you into the forced labour camps (prison) for not paying.
      9 is illegal. Sorry. As the DV hysteria mounts, we will see men prosecuted for this.

      1. 7 is idiotic, agreed. No-financial-strings-attached anonymous sperm donation will end as soon as the gov money spigots dry up. Hint: soon. For the skeptical, pay close attention to the latest media cycle on the “plight” of children of anonymous sperm donors. (There was even an MTV (!!!) special on it a while back.)
        4 is not terrible advice if you a) insist on reproducing and b) are willing to take on the various challenges of single fatherhood.
        In aggregate, outcomes for children raised by single fathers are not optimal, but are a hell of a lot better than those of children raised by single mothers. If you don’t go the surrogacy route and you want a role in your kid’s life, you’re stuck either placating your wife/baby mama… or paying your ex-wife exorbitant chilimony for the privilege of visitation. Shared custody is still rare in the US. Consequently, “wife/knock up some chick” would be terrible advice.

  11. The feminists are a distraction. Most women respond to incentives. They follow feminism because it rewards them.
    To truly stop feminism, you need to stop the thirsty dudes.
    White Knighting does not make you attractive to women.
    white knighting is evidence of demonstrated low value At best, it gives a man a an opportunity to display his attractive traits.
    Fix white knighting, and you fix feminism.

    1. Feminism will burn out – there is no more money for it any more and women produce nothing of value and create bloated bureaucracy. Feminazism achieved what the international banking cabal wanted – it divided and conquered the family whilst producing another stream of income. It has destroyed the US, UK and other nations and so has helped get too many people in debt to the bankers. Most of us are glorified slaves by proxy (if we choose to accept the need to service this debt).
      The only problem for women is, they aren’t independent of men who build stuff and get shit done, and many are beginning to realise this after the financial crisis – so after many decades of brainwashing, can they really turn back into sweet feminine partners and caring mothers? The truth is that this is impossible, so whilst the younger generation might stand a chance if they meet a red pill man, most women in their twenties and above are damaged goods.
      I think pointing out to women that their shelf life is very limited is the best antidote to the social problems we currently see. Most women get upset when they realise they are past it at 30 and how they cannot get away with things they used to in the past. This results in an improvement in their attitude and that of the younger generation, who see how the older women are getting away with less.

      1. “Most women get upset when they realise they are past it at 30 and how
        they cannot get away with things they used to in the past. This results
        in an improvement in their attitude and that of the younger generation,
        who see how the older women are getting away with less.”
        Hahaha! Where does this take place?

        1. Precisely. The average woman >30 years still gets more attention than any male, with the exception of those at the top of the male pyramid.

        2. Exactly! Above average looking women really “just get started” in their 30s as far as getting quality men. For some they first marry a quality man at that time and for some others they get second husband who is far better a man than their first was. I have yet to see an above average looking “pretty” woman in their 30s going without.
          A 5 and lower, sure. 6 and above? No way.

        3. A single woman above the age of 30 is to be treated with extreme caution.
          Rapidly approaching the wall, biological clock pounding in her ear drums, delusion is her only friend – the only thing in any doubt is what antidepressants they’ll put her on.
          Now for a musical interlude….

      2. This results in an improvement in their attitude and that of the younger
        generation, who see how the older women are getting away with less.

        I’m not so sure about that. I imagine that it would vary quite a bit according to upbringing. I mean, I think a good chuck of young people (men and women) living vicariously through pop culture, internalizing its values along the way. This was the case for gen X and millenials don’t seem substantially different in that regard.

      3. Since we know females have little sex drive left after 30 anyway – I dont think they care if they have a man. Big Daddy Gub’mint already mandates them to have jobs at the expense of the white males – so cash flow is not an issue.
        And cats are cheap.
        I say get rid of cats – get rid of the problem.

      4. I am an old fart. I have known women as friends and associates for years/decades. If you think they wake up and their attitude improves after the wall you are smoking some good shit. After the wall the bitterness and anger grows and festers even more than when they were younger. Their entitlement psychology gets much worse. Even women that keep some of their looks get to be terrible people after the wall.

    2. “Fix white knighting, and you fix feminism.”
      Precisely! That’s my point about fat shaming. Fix the fat shamers (most look no better than Matt Forney) and you will fix the obesity epidemic. When average and above average women are coming out of the closet as “fat admirers” enabling and empowering women to gain, while the fat shamers are ugly dudes, there’s no way women will lose weight now.

      1. ” When average and above average women”
        Should read “men”. Tall fit men like the one below are coming out as fat admirers empowering women to gain weight, while the fat shamers continue to be the odd looking, below average dudes like Matt Forney. If the roles were reversed, women would lose, rather than gain weight.
        (And lets not forget that the Black dudes don’t help either with their “I love me a thick gal” rhetoric. When the buffest, most masculine and sexually attractive guys in the country like “more to love” then how can we ever expect American chicks to lose the fat?)
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wYLCMh3hUQ

        1. Essentially a repeat junk post. Spamming the same old lies doesn’t turn it into truth.

    3. good points. There are varieties of white knights though. As the guy further down suggests there are quite a few alpha males who readily assume the protector role and feminists are quite good at encouraging such men to play that role at both the personal and wider institutional level, even as they deny that there should be any kind of gender based roles (let alone male protective of female roles). There are also a lot of men, both alphas and betas (including the above) who seem to believe that patriarchy is real, permanent and ongoing, and who are therefore very relaxed about feminisms influence in society i.e. these are men, who whether they are protective or not of women generally, still believe as feminism argues that men hold all the cards, have all the institutional power – basically they’ve bought the the feminist line hook line and sinker. You could describe this as choosing to believe in the blue pill world but if that’s the case the question arises as to why? Personally I think their ego’s depend on it – if men are not the ‘ruling gender class’ then their sense of prestige and therefore self-worth would suffer. Subscribing to, or passively supporting feminism enables them to give to charity so to speak. Lastly, and perhaps most importantly there are some very genuine radical feminists out there who are male not female and most of them are heterosexual too. By & large these guys are from the left of the political spectrum, and quite often they are the most zealous radical feminist of all. These guys frequently believe that masculinity itself must be abolished (gender dismantled as they typically put it) and the reason for this is VIOLENCE. Men are OK by their book but only if masculinity is acknowledged as evil and a thing to be erdicated. It must be eradicated by this view because it is the cause of violence and war. This whole thread is about countering feminism. If you want to do that understanding how white knights support feminism is important but you also need to understand why? As long as masculinity can be easily associated with violence then some of those who want to live in a less violence world will be particularly prone to following a feminism that seems to offer an alternative

  12. Feminism fails at your feet the moment you simply refuse to subscribe to it.
    But its’ also a BUSINESS. And a CULT.
    Feminism is the idea that women shouldn’t consider themselves *happy* unless they enjoy the same things men do — and that they should enjoy them at ten times the volume. Have you ever seen a woman pretend to like business or sports? If you have, then you’ve seen the very definition of an overcompensating attention whore. There isn’t a big screen on Earth that can drown out the “mating hoots” of a woman who’s convinced herself she likes basketball.
    The idea of convincing someone to enjoy something more than they would otherwise might sound familiar to you. It’s called “marketing”.
    EXAMPLE: You like beer…but do you like Coors Light? You should.
    Personally, I don’t like Coors Light. I enjoy Boddingtons, Smithwick’s, Tecate, John Smith, Guinness, Imperial, MGD, and nearly any microbrew over 10% abv. But there are thousands of men out there who pay their mortgage every month just trying to convince me to add Coors to that list.
    (Carl’s Jr: Fuck you, I’m eating.)
    Feminism is powered by women who eat and feed themselves and their dozens of worthless cats with money made by maintaining and promoting the infernal machine that is feminism. There are women out there who make their living convincing young women to play sports.But as soon as a girl throws the ball back and says “fuck you bitch I don’t like basketball”…… they lose their budget.
    Without feminism, Women’s Studies “professors” and ten thousand of the ugliest bitches on Earth would have to learn how to fuck properly in order to put a roof over their heads. Because what does life spent promoting women’s issues prepare you for? It’s technically not “marketing” because these dozy broads buy it by the trough. That makes it a cult.

  13. How to defeat feminism
    1. Drop out of society (stop working hard, stop contributing, don’t earn more than 30,000 dollars a year or else much of your income will be take through taxes to support the welfare state)
    2. Do not date or fuck women (Western women are not even worth a pump and dump anymore. My left hand is more satisfying than 90 percent of women’s vaginas)
    3. Expat and leave the West if possible
    Basically, go MGTOW and drop out of society. Fuck all of the idiots who say that we should just “man up and get married” and be a productive member of society. No thanks. I’m happy with porn and video games and being on welfare.

      1. Why the hell not? Think about it. The more people who go parasite off the system, the faster it will collapse. Get on food stamps, welfare, disability, whatever, and milk as much as you can from the system. You will be able to live for free and you will be able to help destroy the system at the same time. We should encourage as many men as possible to become welfare parasites. Let the women work and pay taxes. We men will sit at home jacking off to porn and playing video games while living on their tax dollars.

        1. That’s the dumbest idea I’ve ever heard. “Don’t be successful because you’ll have to pay welfare taxes.”
          “Live off of welfare but don’t support the welfare system.” I have an idea. Become rich and powerful enough to help in a fight to abolish the welfare system. It only encourages laziness, as you proved above.

        2. “Don’t be successful…” On the contrary, guest is saying be as successful as possible. Plenty of welfare moms are doing better then working men, and those me would be better served to mooch and be in a better position now and when SHTF. You would suggest men starve on principles that are out of context? Silly. Play to win. Desperate times call for desperate measures. Count yourself fortunate if you can do better than women’s studies professors, but on average you can’t more and more. You are on a tax farm transforming from free range to zoo. Context takes away some options and provides others. Context is half the truth. You are not all-powerful.
          http://www.staresattheworld.com/2013/12/living-with-snake-eyes/

        3. And how do you propose people do that, when the more you make, the more the parasites steal?

    1. “I’m happy with porn and video games and being on welfare.”
      There is a technical term for your condition: fucking loser.

        1. I have total contempt and absolute hatred for an able-bodied man who is on welfare by choice. The death penalty is too light for that.
          And why, you ask?
          Because in the real world I am productive, run businesses, produce shit, employ people and pay a hell of a lot of taxes. So useless unproductive fucktards like him can sit around and play video games on my dime? Fuuuuuck that.
          Winners do things, losers sit around and complain about why they can’t.
          tl:dr he’s a fucking loser

        2. “I have total contempt and absolute hatred for an able-bodied man who is on welfare by choice.”
          I have total confidence that you’re a-okay with women gaming the system, however. Why aren’t you out castigating single mommies, oh titan of industry? They are far more costly and threatening to your investment in society.

        3. The fact that you do all this makes you a gender traitor. You are holding up the system that enslaves men. Just go and commit suicide like the 5 to 1 ratio of men to women do.

      1. Obviously you failed to get the memo. Any participation or competition you put into the matrix will be used to support and defend feminism. It will be used against you. So you go ahead and do all that and call anyone that is actively and intelligently dealing with the current situation a loser. BTW if you want to strive and compete and perform just follow number 3; GTFO of the west and expat. Leave the western woman alone in the west to her decaying civilization.

  14. Let me ask you this: Say there’s a woman who’s, oh, about 50 pounds overweight. She could lose it in 3 months and look smokin’ hot. But the only type of men fat shaming her are the Matt Forneys of the world. I don’t think I need to spell out who he is here. Now, on the other hand, tall, fit 6’7″ above average in looks guys like the one below are not only telling her she’s beautiful as she is, but maybe even encouraging her to gain more. So you tell me: Will she lose or gain weight?
    https://www.youtube.com/user/curvyshrine

    1. If she values her life and not just sex she betta be losing in my opinion. See where your story is whacked is why is it she is surviving off of the opinions of other people? Where is the strength in that? Love yourself, dont just say i accept myself the way i am 50 pounds overweight, take care of your body and health.

      1. What if she’s healhy? Just because people are overweight doesn’t mean they are unhealthy. Particularly not as little as 50 pounds (a mere chubsters). And men like the one above encourage fat women to take care of their health and lose if they need to in order to do that. But at the same time they are clearly stating that they find “plus size” women attractive. So that means a woman 100 pounds overweight might lose 50-70 pounds in which case she will still be 30-50 pounds overweight.
        The point is: QUALITY OF SHAMERS MATTER. Trying to get an understanding of this, in scouring the BBW-love blogs and youtube videos lately I’m finding that its not the fat lovers who are the most unattractive men, but rather the fat shamers (Matt Forney, seriously?). The fat lovers are largely comprised of average looking guys, alongside some above average great looking guys. But I’ve yet to see barely an average fat shamer guy. Most are sorely below average and would be unappealing to any woman, fat or thin.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MwCz-Kd_Ik

        1. 50 pounds (20 kg) overweight is “a mere chubsters”.
          The fact you consider 50 pounds/ 20 kg overweight as merely ‘chubby’ shows the need for radical fat-shaming is long overdue.
          Let me have a guess, you are American, no ?

        2. quote: “What if she’s healhy? Just because people are overweight doesn’t mean they are unhealthy. Particularly not as little as 50 pounds (a mere chubsters).”
          Go find a container of Häagen-Dazs to crawl into, fatty.

        3. And Black dudes don’t help either with their
          “I love me a thick gal” rhetoric. When the buffest, most masculine and
          sexually attractive guys in the country like “more to love” then how can
          we ever expect American chicks to lose the fat?

        4. With all due respect, you are sort of fucking up the ability to discuss things here. You make some possibly valid points but you are doing it over and over again, like some sort of Rain Man.
          If you want your message taken seriously, say it, and then shut the fuck up, lest you be viewed as the court jester.
          As it stands, to me you appear to be dangerously single minded or some sort of diversionary feminist plant.

        5. What if she’s healhy? Just because people are overweight doesn’t mean they are unhealthy. Particularly not as little as 50 pounds (a mere chubsters). And men like the one above encourage fat women to take care of their health and lose if they need to in order to do that. But at the same time they are clearly stating that they find “plus size” women attractive. So that means a woman 100 pounds overweight might lose 50-70 pounds in which case she will still be 30-50 pounds overweight.

          You will find it exceedingly rare for someone of average frame size with 50 pounds of excess fat to be “healthy”. Even so, they would be a whole lot healthier to be near the ideal weight (don’t start with the anorexic weight misrepresentations either).
          Believing that most if not all chubby-chasers are average even handsome is just more of the rationalization that people cling to instead of accepting that excessive fat is not attractive to most observers. What you read in ROK articles are the norm. Furthermore, it’s not irrational hate. It’s based on the basic desire of being attracted to healthy people.
          Basing a course of action on the desires of a tiny segment of fetishists is what is irrational.

          The point is: QUALITY OF SHAMERS MATTER. Trying to get an understanding of this, in scouring the BBW-love blogs and youtube videos lately I’m finding that its not the fat lovers who are the most unattractive men, but rather the fat shamers (Matt Forney, seriously?). The fat lovers are largely comprised of average looking guys, alongside some above average great looking guys. But I’ve yet to see barely an average fat shamer guy. Most are sorely below average and would be unappealing to any woman, fat or thin.

          That’s about as skewed an analysis as it gets. As far as “fat shamers” there are very few if any at all. The “Fat shamer” is a villain made up by the fat-acceptance crowed. Most guys (that’s the full distribution of handsome to beast-like) don’t care for women that are well into the obese zone. We aren’t talking “thick” or booti-licious. We are talking FAT. The “fat shaming” that ROK talks about is really just satire on the whole “big is beautiful” political movement. Don’t kid yourself. It’s not hate, it INDIFFERENCE.
          The more you try to convince people that “fat is here because handsome men love it”, the more you are proving that it’s just an agenda to shame others into silence, because you want to believe that “big is beautiful”.
          Be as fat as you want. Love fat women as much as you want. Most guys (including the good looking ones) are not interested.

        6. diversionary feminist plant

          Bingo! That’s what it would be. It’s just the usual Fat defender troll. She goes by a couple of names here. This is just the latest tactic.

    2. Chubby chasers are maybe 5% of the male population at most, and not a particularly desirable 5% either. Fatties are still screwed. Or not screwed, rather, except perhaps by blacked-out drunk guys in bars.

      1. Right. That’s putting things into the correct perspective.
        “Quality of Shamers Matters” argument is basically cherry-picking to suggest a personal penalty of “you must be of lower quality if you speak out against fat-acceptance promoters”. It’s not the case and she knows it.
        She doesn’t have an answer for this.

        1. I do. Read above.
          And you’re getting it all wrong. I’m not in favor of the Fat Admiration Movement. I think its unhealthy and even exploitative of fat women. These “feeders” and “growers” (google those terms if you dare), prey upon insecure fat women who went ignored and ridiculed their entire lives in order to assuage their own lustful fetishes of control and domination.

        2. You seem to have some really weird obsession with fat chicks.
          Go hand out at the local junk food dispensary.
          You (or some guy who writes exactly like you) keep posting this time wasting drivel in every thread.
          Have you really got nothing more important to talk about?
          To me, obese women are totally invisible. I don’t talk to them or acknowledge their existence in any way, unless I have to in a business situation. Just freaking ignore them.

        3. Read above where? You don’t have an answer as “I scoured the blogs and videos” is really a biased opinion on top of biased opinion.
          Not an answer (and you aren’t even fooling yourself).

        4. No you don’t. You’re just saying that you saw someone else say so in a blog or on a youtube video. That’s not a real answer.

      2. “Chubby chasers are maybe 5% of the male population at most, and not a particularly desirable 5% either.”
        I thought so too until I scoured the blogs and videos.

        1. So your theory is that a bunch of guy tens love banging fat women thus taking both the fat woman and a formidable male competitor off the market. And this hurts me, a solid eight dude, how?

        2. No. Not 10s. 10s probably comprise only about 100,000 men in the entire global population. I specifically said average and above average tall men (that would be 5’s-8’s) and that’s a huge percentage of the population. Meanwhile all the pics I’ve seen of vocal fat shamers have been well below average, like Matt Forney.
          Now, THE SOLUTION is to reverse those roles: Have the ugly guys become vocal fat admirers and the average to good looking guys become fat shamers, and we’ll see ALL fatties drop their weight like there’s no tomorrow.
          Matt Forney types are not going to motivate women to lose weight.

        3. Lol. Right, why not say, “I saw this one guy that said he had an opinion that it was sort of true. He put up a blog and made a youtube video.” Where are your numbers that it’s greater than 5% (if it is even that)?

        4. I don’t know what the numbers are. I was simply saying that the photos and videos of the vocal FA’s are comprised primarily of average and above average looking men, while the photos and videos of the vocal FS’s are entirely comprised of below average looking men.
          Fat women have eyes too and if they see average to good looking guys giving them the thumbs up while ugly guys are giving them the thumbs down – will they be motivated to lose weight? HELL NO!
          That’s why I say the roles need to be reversed if fat women looking for love are ever going to be motivated to lose weight.
          Get some 5,6,7, and 8 men to post their photos and videos fat shaming. We already know that women looking for love simply do not consider the opinions of male 4’s and below.

        5. I don’t know what the numbers are. I was simply saying that the photos and videos of the vocal FA’s are comprised primarily of average and above average looking men, while the photos and videos of the vocal FS’s are entirely comprised of below average looking men.

          Lol. And without any effort towards proving such assertions, you are essentially making things up. You can claim whatever you want, but your credibility is getting more suspect by the post.

          Fat women have eyes too and if they see average to good looking guys giving them the thumbs up while ugly guys are giving them the thumbs down – will they be motivated to lose weight? HELL NO!

          Well, you are practically the ONLY person promoting the premise that men who are not “chubby chasers” are trying to encourage fat and obese women to slim down. It is unlikely that most men care whether or not fat or obese women slim down, since these men are focused on the slimmer ones.
          Even if there was a movement to get fat or obese women to slim down, you still need to provide some shred of proof that your observations are valid as it really does go against what most men (not just here) are saying (lol… yeah, we all “saw” that on the internet).

          That’s why I say the roles need to be reversed if fat women looking for love are ever going to be motivated to lose weight.

          That’s still supposition based on dubious observation to support a notion that YOU introduced.

          Get some 5,6,7, and 8 men to post their photos and videos fat shaming. We already know that women looking for love simply do not consider the opinions of male 4’s and below.

          No. If guys really cared about what fat or obese women’s opinions were, they ask them. You are merely trying to place a personal penalty of “you must be of below average attraction” to be “fat shaming”. You have no basis, so it’s not the case.
          A point of interest is that most women who are in denial share a similar trait that trolls have. Neither considers the opinions of anyone but their own. It’s good that you come here to troll as it helps demonstrate this.

        6. Who are you “Male 5-8’s Needed 4 Revolution”. I don’t recall having a conversation with you. “Quality of Shamers” didn’t have a valid point and that was that. You are just trying to pretend it wasn’t refuted. HELL YES.

      3. There is no such thing as a chubby chaser. There are 1). Chubby *settlers* and 2). Closeted gay guys who want bulky bodies that remind them of men’s bodies (something confirmed by one of my gay friends who gets hit on by the downlow types).

    3. Practically everything is wrong with your hypothetical situation.
      First of all, 50 pounds of extra fat on an average female frame is a heck of a lot. If an average fit weight was 130 and there’s 50 on top of that, it’s a huge percentage of the total mass. Stop kidding yourself.
      Next. Losing 50 pounds in 3 months is a huge amount (and lets not forget that based on a typical weight loss plan that includes exercise, some of the fat lost is replaced by denser muscle) While it is possible, it is highly improbable.
      Thirdly, the chubby-chaser you link here speaks with a lisp and has the mannerisms of a serious Beta. You can dream about this being “superior” to the average person that doesn’t admire excess fat all you want, but it’s not as “manly” as you like to think. Incidentally, it’s interesting how many fat-acceptance promoters are height-fetishists too. Being whatever height is not an accomplishment. Only those wanting to impress others with what they perceive to be a trophy are like this.
      Most importantly, you try to suggest that the encouragements of a very small segment of an already very small segment is what is likely driving overweight women to remain overweight. That is beyond inane.
      No, the ONLY quality that affects things here is the quality of one’s argument. Your’s is sadly lacking.

      1. “You can dream about this being “superior” to the average person that
        doesn’t admire excess fat all you want, but it’s not as “manly” as you
        like to think. ”
        While its true this Dutch guy doesn’t exude raw masculinity, a previous comment mentioned men that do – the most sexy, muscular, masculine men in America – that prefer “more to love” i.e. BLACK DUDES. So between less manly but still above average White guys, and estrogen swoon inducing Black guys, Fatties feel empowered like never before. And that’s the point here – there’s no turning the tide back on obesity UNTIL AND UNLESS Black dudes and above average White dudes start fat shaming, which up until now is not the case. Below average White dudes fat shaming thus far has had ZERO effect and will have sub-zero effect in the future.
        On a more positive note, betas at Microsoft have invented a bra that will help women lose weight. But again, unless those beta Microsoft employees and the people who sell this bra are either hot black men or above average looking and tall white guys – it won’t turn a profit.
        http://aaronsleazy.blogspot.com/2013/12/microsoft-developed-bra-to-fight.html

        1. Black men may like thick women, but they aren’t into obese women. BIG difference.
          People can rationalize all they want about how “fat is in”. It isn’t.
          Fat reducing bra? Merely an attempt to deflect the fact that fatties are not desired outside of the fetish crowd.

        2. Duh. I already stated that the overwhelming majority of feeders and growers are WHITE MEN. Black men like “thick” gals but they aren’t into weird fetishes like “growing” a BBW into an SSBBW. That’s white dude thing (traced back to the Victorian British).
          I don’t get how a fat reducing bra which was invented to help women LOSE weight qualifies as “an attempt to deflect the fact that fatties are not desired outside of the fetish crowd”…. but I’m all ears, do explain.

        3. Duh. I already stated that the overwhelming majority of feeders and growers are WHITE MEN. Black men like “thick” gals but they aren’t into weird fetishes like “growing” a BBW into an SSBBW. That’s white dude thing (traced back to the Victorian British).

          Uh, no.
          Duh. You (as “Anti-Obesity Bra: Microsoft”) purposely added black men to the list ALONG with “above average” white men to build your false assertion that a greater proportion of men are into fatter than merely “thick” when compared to the population that doesn’t. That WAS your whole argument, that women are encouraged to be fatter BECAUSE those that want fat women (not merely thick ones) have a higher concentration of attractive men.
          So. No. You DID attempt to promote via adding another group, “black men” into the mix. That’s a weak attempt even for a troll.
          Furthermore you have yet to provide any evidence of your assertion.

          I don’t get how a fat reducing bra which was invented to help women LOSE weight qualifies as “an attempt to deflect the fact that fatties are not desired outside of the fetish crowd”…. but I’m all ears, do explain.

          “Don’t get it”?
          That would be rather insincere. It is you that brings up this wild concept that because chubby-chasers (a very small percentage of men) are more densely populated with attractive men. You have no proof of this bizarre and highly dubious claim, but use it as a launch point for a hyperbolic tangent onto the merits of a device that can aid in fat reduction… yet no one is talking about “fat reduction” or some crazy concept about the attractiveness differences between chubbier chasers and the rest of the population).
          It’s like introducing the idea that all of this was caused by extra-terrestrial and then going on about a new radar telescope developed by the NASA.
          It’s hyperbole and now it is explained.
          Try again.

    4. Why do you keep posting this crap in every thread under so many names?
      Who gives a fuck?
      If some weirdo dude wants to get himself a landwhale, there are plenty of them to go around. I say go for it, harpooner.
      This takes those men out of competition with me for the actually attractive women, and keeps those fatties from bugging me when I am trying to game some hottie.
      This is a win/win all around if you ask me.

  15. Fighting feminism is simple (well, at least in theory), do not marry or cohabitate with – western – females. Even if you don’t destroy it your have minimalized it’s influence in your personal life. If you do wish to marry and have kids…get the f*ck out and live in a country with a more pro-male climate.

    1. Nailed it. Select, select, select, whether for seduction or marriage. You’ll make your own life better and isolate the fems. It’ll do far more good than joining a movement or wasting breath arguing. Life’s too short for that anyway.

    1. No he meant Steve McQueen. Christian McQueen is just a dude who gets lots of club chicks due to his VIP Host status and hooking them up with cocaine and molly. That playbook doesn’t work for a drug-free accountant, for example.

  16. I have brought it up before, but if you live in the US fighting gun control is another way to reinforce the notion that masculinity has its place in our society.

  17. I like to mock their language. Who came up with the word “transgender,” any way? It sounds like something out of science fiction.
    And point out their cross purposes, like “fat acceptance” versus, say, Michelle Obama’s campaign against obesity. Why doesn’t Mrs. Obama accept fat girls, like, say, Jahi McMath before she became a zombie?
    Just plainly state, when the opportunity arises, that reality works in the way we’ve seen it, and don’t play their make-believe games. How often do you heard someone point out the sheer strangeness of the fact that progressives claim to care so much about protecting human health, living according to nature, eating organic foods, etc.; yet they encourage young women to live unnaturally and inorganically by meddling with their biological fertility cycles (mainly through ingesting artificial hormones) so they can have sterile and depersonalized hookups with a series of men these women have intention of forming relationships with, much less marrying. (No wondering their reproductive systems have started to rebel against this ridiculous situation by shutting off vaginal lubrication, ovulation and the desire for sex, sometimes as early as their 20’s, as someone posted here the other day.) Feminists have propagandized us since the 1960’s to accept this lifestyle as a normal thing for young women to do to their bodies, yet they obsess over the purity of their food supplies, their water quality and the air they breathe. And they just can’t justify this conflict, no matter how fast the hamster wheel spins.

  18. RedPiller1985, you should write a comprehensive list of what you know about transexuals, not everyone knows them as well as you do (excluding the internets).

  19. They aren’t worth this much effort. My time is valuable, I am not wasting it on taking pictures of the obese, i’m using it to improve myself and enjoy life. The best revenge is living well.
    There are any illusions in this world, just learn to see through them, and either fore-arm yourself, or use them to your advantage, I think that is enough.

  20. “I started a local Philly trend by calling them bootlegs out in public.”
    Obsidian’s nephew is writing for this site? Oh boy?

  21. RP,
    one of the BEST ways of dealing with manginas and feminists is to name and shame them. In each of the CAF country portals we have a place to name and shame the IgnorMANuses and the man hating women.
    The two links for the US are below but we have the same of UK/OZ/Canada etc.
    I can tell you that women AND MEN are going BALLISTIC that we are doing this. They HATE IT when their name is put into CAF because google finds it and when their friends search their names their CAF entry comes up.
    CAF is now at 513,000 in the world rankings…amazing when you think about it. We got 145,000 hits in december. This is a new high except for the rachel cassidy doxxing where we got 290,000 hits in the month.
    If a few hundred enterprising young lads across the man-o-sphere would capture the words and pictures of the man haters and the manginas? It would have a HUGE effect on these haters willingness to spread such hatred in public.
    http://www.crimesagainstfathers.com/usa/Forums/tabid/362/forumid/260/scope/threads/Default.aspx
    http://www.crimesagainstfathers.com/usa/Forums/tabid/362/forumid/261/scope/threads/Default.aspx
    And of course? There is a donate button on the global page. Men can help keep the site up by making a small donation….and there is even a bitcoin address. No one has used it yet.
    There is a banner ad on the global site. If you see an add you LIKE and want to click on to see what the ad is then please do so. I am averaging 50cent euro per click but only getting 1-3 clicks per day mostly.
    (BTW. No ad fraud please. Only click if you want to see what is behind the ad because google will cancel the ads for ad fraud….I just want to be clear about that, ok?)
    http://www.crimesagainstfathers.com

    1. The way to utilize a beta is not to out him on some seedy website. Rather, he has one of two values. If recoverable and you like him, you can assist him in shedding those beta flaws. If unlikeable or too far gone, you can just exploit his weaknesses to your advantage. Either way, you and men in general win. However, outing and naming hetero males, even if beta, is anti male. Translation, you’re kind of a dick dude.

  22. Ways to fight back against the feminist tidal wave:
    1) Convert as many men as you can to the realities of the Red Pill. By far the easiest way to do this is introducing them to game. Once they see that game works they’ll start to wonder how and why it works and we all know the answer to that one.
    2) Make a Will leaving some cash to your favourite male orientated charity, Free paternity tests, Anti-False Rape organisations, Male Contraception Pill Research etc…
    3) Boycott any Company, Product, Celerity, Magazine, Service, TV Channel, or Music that uses ant-male/pro-feminist images or rhetoric. If possible take the time to e-mail them your displeasure.

  23. Of course, the other way to deal with feminism is to create a second economy that can not be taxed by your government. There is no need to “drop out” and “earn little money”. What you can do is make money via another jurisdiction that your guvment can not get its grubby paws on.
    We have just created the “Mens Right Intelligent Business Agency Fiji” to do this.
    When a man lists something on A-MAN-ZON he can do his billing via the MRIBA if he wishes….The Fiji government is fully on board with MRIBA. We will be doing a proper announcement of all this soon.
    http://www.mriba.biz/
    http://www.a-man-zon.com/

  24. Ways To Fight Back Against The Feminist Tidal Wave:
    1. Fat shaming year round
    Fuck, I really just don’t get this fat shaming thing.
    What are we hoping to achieve with this tactic? Do we really want these fat feminists to slim down? Would that be the best thing they could do for themselves. They would be a lot happier, live a lot longer and have a better chance at trapping some poor sap into marrying them. Nah, if anything I want the fat slobs to get fatter.

    1. Since we now have ACA, we all pay for those fat animal’s obesity. I’m not interested in being in a society that condones that behavior.

      1. “we all pay for those fat animal’s obesity”
        I hear what you’re saying John but I doubt that Fat Shaming on here is aimed at saving money.
        But even if it was – most medical cost come in old age and as most of these fat slobs won’t make it past 60, I suspect that it pretty much evens its self out.

        1. No it does not even out at all. Ignoring the enormous loss in economic productivity, obesity is the greatest cost differential in American health care compared to most other developed nations. Other issues contribute but by far obesity is the greatest culprit.

        2. “obesity is the greatest cost differential in American health care”
          That’s because Old Age isn’t classified as a single health issue and therefore doesn’t show up in the stats.
          As the vast majority of health expenditure occurs in old age and fatties die younger, there must be a degree of evening out.

        3. 1. The differential I am referring to is the cost differential between American health care costs and other developed nations that offer similar levels of health care.
          2. We don’t let fatties just die in America, they live shorter, less productive, and more expensive lives than healthy people.

    2. Dont think we need to worry about them “slimming down” too much. Their good friends Ben and Jerry will see to that.

    3. “What are we hoping to achieve with this tactic? Do we really want these fat feminists to slim down?”
      Don’t worry David, they won’t slim down because the pool of men doing the fat shaming and the pool of men doing the fat admiring are not the same. Like I once did you probably thought “fat shamers are not much to look at but fat admirers must be the the ugliest, fattest, most desperate men on the planet” – right?
      Well I scoured the FA sites and blogs and found that while fat shamers are below average looking men, the majority of fat admirers are average, with a not small portion of them being actually above average attractive men. And then to make matters worse you’ve got the most masculine, most sexually desirable men on the planet – Black Dudes – notoriously famous for their love of a “thick gal”.
      The only way fat shaming would ever work is if these pools of men were reversed – the attractive men becoming fat shamers and the unattractive men (like Matt Forney) becoming the fat admirers. Then women would drop the fat in a heart beat.

  25. Man. After reading the comments, its refreshing to see just how many men are taking the red pill these days. This is awesome. Dudes are fed up with this bullshit. Lets start by taking back out own lives, then helping other men see the truth, then ultimately working on the entire society itself. Baby steps first though. The manoshpere and it’s community of wise men have changed my life for the better.

    1. Hey Joe,
      yes it is…I started speaking out in public in my own name 5.5 years ago….boy did people hate on me….I was a “loony” and “no other men think like you do”. I lost count of the places I was banned from for being a “woman hater” because demanding women are held accountable for their crimes is “hatred” now.
      Well? Check out any newspaper comments section now. The comments are over-run by men saying “we are fed up”. I am very pleased to have been one of the people who sparked that.
      And by the way? The MANY places I was banned from for speaking the truth? Most of them have been totally ineffective in what they were trying to do….while we at MBA are now on a march….we are going to create a very nice business and we are going to make a lot of money.
      Why? Because we are the only game in town for men to buy from where we refuse to allow women to commit crimes. Here…check out “a message from our founders”. We are only going to allow products and services on A-MAN-ZON where the company owners make oath to fire any woman who commits a crime.
      A-MAN-ZON appeals to the sense of fairness and justice of men. And we have also named and shamed many of the worlds richest men who continued to hire women they knew were criminals.
      @ALL. By all means? Please pass our message around. I think it is important for men to know that the worlds richest men betrayed their brothers…..and by all means start coming to A-MAN-ZON to see what we have for sale and to check out the man friendly companies…
      And men who want to list on A-MAN-ZON? Please get in touch with us. The way to fight back against feminism is not to fight at all…it is to create a separate new economy where feminism will not be tolerated.
      http://www.a-man-zon.com/AboutUs.aspx

  26. I personally don’t care about fat people. To think I could cause someone to commit suicide because I called them out on their fatness, is just a terrible thought. I think as men we should just accept that some women are not suitable for fucking, and get over it. Fatties aren’t worth your time. Don’t try to change them, just go after only the skinny girls and convince other men to do the same. If not a single man will go after a fatty, then fatties would soon disappear.

  27. Know what will happen if feminists takes power, a human body getting endlessely abused by a mutated, morbidly overweight boar.

  28. Excellent. I live in Roosh’s old stomping grounds (DC) and I go to my hometown (Philly) fairly often. I’m all about real pussy. Glad to see someone is doing something about the fucking-up of my hometown.

  29. We need a Valentines Day Shaming week.
    Maybe insert small blue-pill informational flyers in among the Valentine candy and flowers.
    Mock the pussy White Knight / Mangina blue-pillers as they buy into societies required alms to their female slavemasters.
    Take pics of them this year. Post ’em up so we can see those fools in all their glory.

    1. Every year in India there is an anti-Valentines Day campaign carried out by some small whacky group that goes around chanting the wedding mantras and “forcibly” marrying off young couples they see in public holding hands or whatever.
      “Two elementary reasons are stated by protesters behind their objection-
      Valentine Day is a part of invasive western tradition, and secondly it
      is market promoted fête. The pro traditional, cultural campaigners who
      are against western influence in India, terms it as invasive western
      influence, which are corrupting our youth both morally and by
      intemperance or sensuality. The youth in the name of the love and
      affection are involved in activities which are sacrilegious to both
      tradition and our Indian culture. Indian tradition and culture does not
      promote any such public display of affection, and evenly does not
      encourage such activities. All in all, Indian culture and tradition does
      not support such celebration in our society as it profane to the
      customs we follow; therefore one should not submit to western influence,
      and as part of the impresario, protesters are inclined to resist such
      western influence in India, prepared to save Indian tradition and
      culture. However, such other kinds of specific days like Mothers Day,
      Fathers Day are never been publicly, as well as vociferously protested.
      The fact that Valentine Day is only invasive to Indian tradition is not
      perceivable even through minimum consideration.
      Secondly, many protestors believe that Valentine Day is part of larger
      corporate scam or a commercial cliché. Greeting cards, candies, gifts
      and expensive day out in restaurants are more or less a part of overall
      market strategy to induce youth to expend more and more. The V-day has
      slowly shifted to V-week as it begins with Rose Day, followed by
      Proposal Day, Chocolate Day, Teddy Day, Promise Day, Kiss Day, Hug Day and Valentine’s Day. According to an Industry report, this year’s
      valentine market is pegged at rupees 15 billion, almost 20 percent
      higher than last year’s expense. To an extent it is viable to see it a
      part of market strategy; but, Paradoxically, almost every traditional
      Indian festival is market influenced, may it be larger festival like
      Diwali and Holi or even smaller one’s like Karwa Chauth. Traditional way
      of celebration is superseded by new technological and expensive form of
      celebration, like electric light replacing normal candle and Diyas, Eco
      and skin friendly colors over tradition colors.”
      http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/mobocracy-and-anti-valentine-day-protest/article4465418.ece

      1. HINDU TALIBAN:
        Anti-Valentine’s Day Protests In India Get A Frilly Response
        “The Indian Consortium of Pub-Going, Loose and Forward Women is fighting back against right-wing extremist group Sri Ram Sena, often called the Hindu Taliban.
        According to BBC News, the Consortium was started on Facebook last week and plan to send the extremist group hundreds of pairs of pink underwear on Valentine’s Day in response to the group’s violent bar attacks on women last month.
        Ms Susan said the group expected to collect at least 500
        pieces of pink underwear from all over the country and send them to Mr Mutalik’s office in the southern city of Hubli.
        “It’s a choice between ignoring a group like Ram Sena or responding to its activities. We have decided to give it attention, but it is attention which it will not like,” she said.”
        http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/10/hindu-taliban-anti-valent_n_165657.html

        1. “Oh fuck! They sent pink panties! This is enough to make me give up my religion!”

  30. I don’t get the correlation between being fat and being a feminist. No all anti feminist women are pefectly thin or want to, being the traditionalist or the equalitarian. They are just bothered by women acting like children because of feminism while they try to act like adult women and be responsible adults.

  31. “I learned a whole lot about transsexuals by doing these steps unintentionally. I was the typical college liberal do-gooder who worked for an LGBT group as an ally. I learned all the stupid terms that transsexual freaks used. I can argue against transsexualism for hours. I know their secrets and what stuff they’re hiding.”
    Can you please expand on this so that those of us trapped on hostile campuses can combat these freaks?

    1. Once, I said within hearing distance of this one transgendered thing that I couldn’t figure out whether it was trying to turn into a girl or a guy to my classmate. It didn’t speak to me for the rest of the semester.

      1. I haven’t met any real transsexuals, but there’s a small group of vocal students who make it their life’s mission to defend all of the “issues” they face and try to shame me for not sharing their enthusiasm.

  32. And for your personal life, consider that:
    A person advocating the death of unborn and the death of born (post birth abortion) – feminist
    A person advocating for socialism/communism, disregarding the number of deaths caused directly by these ideologies – leftist
    A person advocating for gay rights while blaming straight men for AIDS
    A person claiming children do not need fathers, while working in the child support industry…
    etc etc,
    Are people that you do not need consideration against.
    As the millions dies under Stalin, who were useful idiots; these people are for humanity, or in the micro level, an productive sane man, useless idiots.
    Use them for your own purposes, if you can, do not abuse, as it is criminal, but you need to feel no pity against people who openly claim that the 20 million dead in Russia were a simple necessity of system change.

  33. You are a fucking liar. I live in Philadelphia and have not once heard the phrase “bootleg” used to describe a tranny. You are a stupid beta trying to inflate your own sense of importance. Nobody uses that term. Maybe you are secretly a Mean Girl in disguise. If so, stop trying to make “fetch” happen! LOL

    1. You in north philly or the gentrified parts? North philly areas like kensington and even parts of fishtown I hear it constantly. Are you in center city or something? The upper class whites don’t like to say it in public but they say it in private.

      1. If yer not from Philly you don’t know shit. So shut the fuck up with whatever your nonsensical reply even means.

        1. If yer not talking about the topic you are shit. So shut the fuck up little kid with whatever your nonsense is.

  34. Wow! This article was so weird to me, mostly because of point 2, I spend quite a lot of time on ROK reading all your articles, finding out what it is you hate about women etc. so that I can warn women of telltale signs of misogyny and “game”, it’s working really well, i’ve put quite a few girls off prospective dates by pointing out they’re using the exact “tactics” you talk about on here. It’s interesting that you guys do that back! The problem with reading ROK though is that i’ve suggested other people do it and most other people can’t stomach much of it, not even the men i’ve asked to read it (because I worry that deep down all men are monster’s like you guys and need reassurance sometimes!) May I suggest pervocracy.blogspot.com for your readings, it’s one of my favorite feminist blogs and it’s really funny so it should be quite entertaining too!

      1. I don’t actually think that the alpha males on this site are the tits or gtfo types, I have to give it to them, they’re mature, well educated, I wouldn’t accuse any of them of being “basement dwellers” and so forth, they’re just horrible people. You on the other hand, seem a lot like a loser beta, reading ROK in the hope that somehow their “success” will rub off on you. I’m not trolling either… because… i’m being completely honest about all of my feelings, so it can’t be trolling, it could only be trolling if I was a red pill guy pretending to be a feminist in order to wind the rest of you. Which I guess is not beyond the bounds of belief.

        1. No one cares about your “honest feelings” around here, so, please, go back where you came from.

        2. No. You’re the same troll that comes here thinking she has a genuine argument, gets that argument trashed and proceeds to lay on the personal insults and attempts at shaming (much like you are doing now).

        3. Yep. Those guys are right. You post like one of the usual trolls. You don’t have anything legit to add and are just trying to label any opposition as “Beta”s.
          Tits or STFU.

        4. Babug is a Desi guy, or worst – wannabe Desi guy. Just ignore him. If he’s Desi he has his mom’s milk to cuddle up to at night and if he’s not Desi well then he has Desi friends whom he can live vacariously through.

        5. Let me be completely honest with you: get lost.
          Why the fuck are you here, anyway?
          I don’t hate women. I enjoy pursuing them with game, and having sex with them. Game is based on evolutionary biology, and sadly for you, it works very very well on women at a deep subconscious level.
          That is what men are supposed to do anyway, have sex with women. Maybe you should try it some time. If you can get your dildo unstuck long enough.

    1. “It’s interesting that you guys do that back!”
      If it never occurred to you that men can read The Rules just as freely as women you’re a bit slow.

    2. “i’ve put quite a few girls off prospective dates by pointing out they’re using the exact “tactics” you talk about on here”
      I admire your cockblocking abilities. The more you stop women from enjoying alpha-male behavior, the more powerful the allure is.

  35. The nice thing about living in a Feminazi society is that since everyone’s a beta male, there’s more women for us Alpha males.

  36. PLEASE do a trans article to help us takedown.
    I find it intriguing that cross-dressing is the top fetish in prison populations.

        1. The fact that these Rape Fantasists are ordinary free women, with no adverse situational pressures, only adds to the intrigue.

        2. Reading into normal women’s preferences for submission (obvious) is completely different from studying freaks in prison.

    1. Hold on…. what!?
      How can someone cross dress in prison when they have to wear those uniforms all the time?

  37. Here in Oz, annoying a TS is as simple as politely calling them ‘mate’. I suppose in the USA, ‘bro’ would do the same job.
    I wonder how a butch feminist would handle being so addressed?

  38. Wow at the title, “Fight back” yeah a man fights back to a feminist and gives good arguments next minute he’s apparently a rapist…

  39. fem·i·nism
    noun ˈfe-mə-ˌni-zəm
    : the belief that men and women should have equal rights and opportunities

  40. Firstly, people who have taken steps to get surgery to alter their physical body (their sex) ie, transsexuals, have to first be diagnosed by a trained PSYCHOLOGIST with gender dysphoria, which is a legitimate psychological condition the same as schizophrenia or bipolar disorder. It can be found in the DSM. One of the requirements of gender dysphoria is that the person does not want to be part of the other sex for the perceived benefits of being a member of that sex. So there for, these transsexual people do not want to become women because they are “better treated.” Gender dysphoria literally means that the persons brain has been wired for the sex opposite to that of their physical body.
    Second, feminists do not hate trans people, as feminism is about 100% gender equality.
    Third, you people are really really sad. I don’t know if you think that people are out to get you, or some shit, but why do you want to make other people hurt so badly? Were you neglected as children and want attention? Where you abused or some shit? Why do you want to make other human beings feel so shitty about themselves?
    Seriously, its disgusting.
    Finally, I’d like to see you argue against gender dysphoria, especially with a legitimate psychologist. That’s like trying to argue that the common cold isn’t real to a doctor, you bunch of door-knobs.

    1. My assessment – article hits too close to the truth for this commenter, leading to this full-on emotional rant.

  41. People actually read and agree with these articles? I thought natural selection would’ve taken you out by now. Good thing pretty much everyone else on the goddamn planet thinks you’re fucking shitheads, and it’s pretty damn fun to have some brainless punching bags around. Although I’m a bit discouraged that you guys refuse to pull your heads out of your whiny, ignorant, idiotic assholes. Insult and argue all you want, just know that I really don’t give a fuck about your subhuman asses.

  42. the real irony of this that feminists “accepting” transsexuals into their movement is mostly a one sided thing. most transsexuals are still angry with second wave feminism that completely screwed trans people over in terms of health care and social standing, most feminists hate transsexuals for trespassing in “wymens” spaces and not conforming to their strict gender ideals about the evil patriarchy, etc.
    looking at janice reymond and second wave femininism practically single-handedly turned transsexuals from people suffering from a medical condition that required correcting into ideas of trans people being demons and rapists preying on women, or gender traitors and other ridiculous shit.

  43. There aren’t enough avenues, even on ROK and Roosh, to publish thoughts and anecdotes, he can only publish so much and only Roosh’s boys get in to publish their incomplete thoughts anyway, but live the life and fight back and shame where you can. You don’t need ROK once you have the attitude.

  44. Transexuality is the result of a neurologically observable condition known as Gender Dysphoria. Gender Dysphoria exists, and we should not paint all trans people as “freaks.” That being said, these days there are a lot of “transtrenders” or “gender-trenders” who like to invent “new genders” and use words like “non-binary” and other garbage. These people are disingenuous attention-seekers, and they should be shamed. They detract from a real discussion about transgenderim and gender dysphoria

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