2 Ways Quality Men Get Locked Into A Relationship

Often you will hear a woman, well-meaning or otherwise, ask how to get a man to commit to her. In the various incarnations of Beige Phillip and Black Phillip that I have written on before, Both Dante Nero and Patrice Have talked about their Jellybean Theory, which gives girls a blueprint for getting commitment from a man. You can listen to the entire description here:

The short version of it is this: every girl is represented by a jellybean jar. Every time she does something positive, she puts a jellybean into the jar. Every time she nags, flakes, denies sex, throws a tantrum, or other misbehavior, she is taking multiple jellybeans out of the jar. Most women will add and subtract so that it roughly evens out over time. The best move, however, is to add so many jellybeans that when she takes it away by withdrawing from the relationship, the man has no choice but to consider commitment because of the value she has brought to his life.

Every red pill aware man I’ve known who has gotten married or into a serious relationship entered one that followed one of these two paths. This isn’t a basement neckbeard who gets his first girlfriend off the internet — I’ve seen it apply to Red Pill-aware men who have had lots of options, know the game a bit, and still choose to settle down:

1. Consistently add to the jar

Consistent-adders may not dazzle you at first, but they are the girls who continue to add value as the relationship progresses. They take care of you when you are sick, keep nagging to a minimum, and are generally just very pleasant to be around. While the sex may not be mind-blowing, it is good, on-demand and the girls keep in shape. These girls often have other intellectual pursuits and practical skills such as cooking, and a more even-keel outlook on life. The way to describe this type of relationships is “easy”, because it does not add any further headache to your life.

Most well-adjusted red pill relationships follow this blueprint. Women will be women, but the disruptions (and thus subtractions from the jar) are at an absolute minimum. We tend to make dating, relationships, and the game into an adversarial interaction, but sometimes we forget that with the right maintenance and choice of woman, it can be a value-adding experience. If you believe in marriage, you would consider making a long-term investment only to women who fall into this category.

2. Add and subtract from the jar in wild, unpredictable swings

These girls may drop an entire bag of jellybeans in the jar at once but might then steal the jar, smash it on the ground, and fuck your best friend. The highs are extremely high, with incredible sex in the most spontaneous of situations, proclamations and of undying love, and other tokens that make you feel at the pinnacle of your masculinity.

Unfortunately, the dark side of these women is that they tend to be duplicitous, self-serving, and destructive. They crave drama, and will do everything up to and including ruining your life to achieve it. One reason that men get so sucked into dating girls with Borderline Personality Disorder is women with that affliction are so extreme in their loving and hating that men are unfamiliar with the level of emotion they inspire. “A girl has never loved me this much before,” they will say, before she cheats on him and slashes his tires. When they withdraw from the relationship, the men begin to miss the boom days while they forget the numerous bust periods that went along with them.

I’ve seen two types of men who are prone to fall into a relationship of this structure. Men of the first type understand that the situation is untenable, but they are so desensitized by their successes in the game that only these girls can fire off the dopamine in their brain and provide the same rush that they used to get from making out with the nerdy girl in the high school library. The other type of man who falls into this pattern is the natural who has psychological issues of his own and craves a rocky, codependent relationship (e.g. Mystery).

Keep in mind the two roads that women take to inspiring your commitment. My recommendation is that you search out and cherish the former, while avoiding the latter like the plague.

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75 thoughts on “2 Ways Quality Men Get Locked Into A Relationship”

  1. The problem is, most women are a hell of a lot more concerned with the jellybeans in YOUR jar than theirs.
    See, women will watch you fill your jar, and every time you take a jellybean out of your jar, you have to also take every other group of jellybean out your jar that you took out of your jar you ever have.
    Okay, you fill your jar with 6000 jellybeans, and you take out 4 because you said her ass was fat.
    You put another 50 jellybeans in, and take out another four for saying dinner sucked… the thing is, when you take out those four, you ALSO have to take out another four for calling her ass fat LAST time.
    In addition, your bitch is constantly draining jellybeans randomly for stupid shit that you don’t even understand. (well, okay, guys who have game understand why, it’s shit testing you fail) and the next time you take a jellybean out of your jar, you have to take every single damned jellybean out of the jar equal to every other jellybean you have ever taken out before.
    That’s why relationships are a fail… because unless you can smack that bitch and get her to stop stealing your fucking jellybeans, the jellybeans in her jar are irrelevant.

    1. Interesting way of stating it. Women tend to have very long memories against even the most minor of offenses, usually blowing them up far out of proportion to the offense, while simultaneously having short term memory bordering on amnesia regarding her own slights, even major ones, towards her man. It is a hell of a thing to put up with, at least until you develop the mentality which says “Ok, you don’t like what I did, but you’ve completely forgotten that spending all of our bill money on makeup is bad? No worries, I got other things to do” and then walk away.

      1. It’s actually a form of competetiveness and justification for misbehavior. If she does something she knows full well is massively objectionable, she has to ‘even the score’ by pointing to a long (if ancient) list of things YOU have done to justify and ‘even things out.’
        Her own failures in that period? Irrelevant. All that matters is the score.
        This is ironically proof that women do not mature even slightly past their prime… because SHE is the same as she has always been, she assumes YOU are the same one who did whatever before, failing to realize that every single experience matures us, changes the way we behave.
        A woman wakes up every morning as exactly the same person she always was, until she looks in a mirror and realizes that her appearance has changed… That is why women aging is such a tragedy to them. Because they are exactly the same and yet their body is changing.
        Men look in the mirror and see how they have changed from yesterday to today. They may not LIKE how their body is changing as it ages, but it is all part and parcel of the continuous changing of their personality, maturity, and wisdom. We can demand vengeance, but once something has happened it has HAPPENED. Once we grant forgiveness we may no longer trust someone, but it is in the past.
        is it any wonder many learned men consider women an entirely different and dramatically inferior species? Incapable of learning from experience or finer virtues like wisdom or forgiveness?
        If you are insane enough to keep dating a woman that feels you wronged her, every day you commit the same wrong, will you or nil you. Very very few women are capable of forgiving past wrongs, and mostly it’s a waste of time to even try to find them.

      2. You are actually referring here to “lesser females”, which tend to (unfortunately) constitute a sizeable portion of the majority. “Greater females”, though they are still women and prone to many of their wily ways, usually have significantly better time-horizon and planning abilities and (so long as they are not psycho), are better able to see long-term the value of what is indeed put into a relationship and govern themselves in accordance. Granted, they tend to be quite rare and our lower-level crass culture actively discourages such maturity but they do exist nonetheless. Dealing with them is usually a treat and a refreshing change from the more common specimens one usually encounters along the way.

        1. I don’t disagree with that. Given as my wife is quite easy going, I’d say that there are two distinct types when it comes to this topic.

  2. I just couldn’t bring myself to read this. Maybe I am tired. Maybe you suck. Maybe cuz I’m married. Maybe it’s because candy is of SATAN, and chocolate is a gift from JESUS AND HIS ANGELS

  3. “…they are so desensitized by their successes in the game that only these
    girls can fire off the dopamine in their brain and provide the same
    rush that they used to get from making out with the nerdy girl in the
    high school library.”

    This is a very insightful, and something that I think affects us both on an individual level and as a larger society.
    The more sexual experiences you have, the more you start to “push limits” in order to achieve the same highs. You constantly have to go further and further. When I first got introduced to girls, simply feeling up her boobs or sticking your hands in each-others pants was pretty damn good. But soon, it wasn’t good unless there was an orgasm involved… and then it was chasing after losing your virginity… and then your first blowjob… then she needs to make you cum in her mouth to fulfill your fantasy… then you move into some light bondage or amateur nude pictures… and so on. As life goes on, you find yourself in sexual situations you never thought you’d be in in your wildest dreams. You first threeway… had one. But it was straight – the girls didn’t kiss or do anything with eachother, so now, to get the same thrill…
    After a while you can end up being pretty way the hell out there – especially once you realize that women go through crazy binges at various times in life, and it’s your duty as a man to seek out the recent divorcee who’s looking to “explore” a little before she settles down again with another provider – thus, the Christian chick who’s just screaming for someone to woo the wanton slut out of her for six months while she’s going through her Eat, Pray, Love cycle.
    Once you know “how it works,” it can be pretty difficult to settle down with a nice, normal chick… especially when you realize that she’s probably willing to become a wanton slut for you too, if you’re in the proper frame to her. The only thing is, the nice girl might still be way back at swallowing cum for the first time… and while teaching a woman how you like to get head is pretty cool too, it’s just not the same thrill as the first time your girlfriend and her best-friend started stroking you off at the same time and led you into the bedroom.
    Back in the 1970’s, the APA got into some serious trouble with the homosexual community for suggesting that at least a portion of homosexuals, were likely attracted to it not because they were actually gay, but because they were doms or subs who had deviated so far that they were seeking their “high” in more extreme forms. The gays & lesbians sent death threats and smashed windows, and the APA retracted their studies and grovelled like the PC worms they have become today.
    But… what is a cuckolding fetish but an introduction into a dom-sub relationship involving, at least to some degree, bisexuality? And the more extreme they go, the more bisexual they go – this is all part of being a sub in a BDSM relationship anyways – eventually the sub-male is lured into doing something bisexual in order to please his mistress, and it’s still “hetero” because he’s doing something to please someone of the opposite sex rather than being attracted to someone of the same sex – it’s ok to do it, because the dom told you to do it, and brought out the wanton slut in you in order to get an even greater high… and now you’re entering into homosexuality. Why do you see so many men turning gay after 20 years of marriage? Didn’t they get boners when they fathered their children? Why do they become limp-wristed cake decorators after they come out of the closet? This is what the APA was trying to explain.
    And as a society, you can see also how perverted our society is becoming simply by looking at how porn has evolved. Back to the cuckolding fetish… it’s now all twisted up into interracial porn – but really? What’s the thrill for someone to jack off to watching a black guy bang a white chick and misgenate your own race? This could only happen in a society that is laden with white guilt, because it’s pretty sick to get aroused by the thought of your race being destroyed. But it’s quite a stretch from the guys who wanted a “hot wife” a decade ago, simply wanting to see their wives behave like a slut, to being cuckolded by someone from a different race, while being denied sexual pleasure yourself. I mean, holy mother of god, what an evolution of sex!
    Same thing as the amount of lesbian porn available while at the same time we are in the grip of a feminist death-hold that encourages women to reject men and embrace each-other instead. It’s reflected in our porn what’s going on in society.
    Anyway, sorry for yacking off into a tangent – but I think this is something that needs to be explored deeper by those who plan on trying to bang 100+ women in their life rather than get married. In marriage, your sexual experiences are limited to how far you can get your wife to go… but in a serial dating type of lifestyle, you can go quite far with exploring things – exhibitionism fetishes, group sex etc. etc. Get a good long-term FWB who’s just into having sex every month or three and over a couple of years, she’ll do some shit that you’ll never forget… but you’ve got to be right on the ball to make sure it doesn’t ruin you too. For example, lot’s of guys figure the best way to go is to always be a dom – spank her, make her your little bitch and she will love it. Yup, she will – too much – and if you stop spanking her or tying her up or whatever else you do, you’ll lose her instantly – so now you’ve got a sub walking around behind you, klingy as fuck, and you wish she’d just behave fucking normally for a while.

    1. It’s a matter of volume. In a society where sex leads inexorably to children, prior to birth control, sex was actually fairly rare. Having sex a couple of times a year risked pregnancy and childbirth.
      As anyone who abstains for long period can tell you, ‘vanilla’ sex is pretty damned awesome after a bit of a stretch… perversion is a direct result of an overabundance, and if you have noticed, many of the most perverted monsters in history became so due to an almost unlimited access to sex.
      Sex is like alcohol, or virtually any other pleasure… If you do not take it in moderation, it soon comes to dominate your life and requires more and more stimulation to achieve the same high.
      make no mistake, sex is a drug… it is a built-in drug, and a reward system for reproduction, but like any drug it can be abused.

      1. People did more than vaginal sex though, and handjobs and blowjobs were stand ins for actual intercourse (I believe anal sex might have been, but it’s not something you ask your grandparents about so I can only speculate. I do know it was big with prostitutes at the time, due to pregnancy issues). As I recall handjobs were a very frequent thing for men at the time (or so I was led to believe). Plus, there was always the mistress on the side for a decent number of men. Same frequency problem, but you have two plates instead of just one so you can rotate a bit more.
        This is not to detract from your point, I agree with your conclusion. I just don’t think sex was *that* uncommon (couple of times a year).

        1. I’ve read that (among many others) the Puritans, of all people, practiced anal for those times when you absolutely could not afford to get the girl pregnant. We won’t mention other cultures who held that women were for making babies and boys were for sexual pleasure.

        2. The Puritans take a bad rap, usually from a myth created by the Left, that they were somehow sexually repressive. Far from it, and a good sex life was very high on their list of items to make a good marriage. In fact the man OR woman could divorce if the other partner failed to meet up to his/her sexual expectations. Hardly the picture we have of them today as prudes.

      2. I think you’re right – and that’s also what affects us as a society. For a society that has a gajillion laws regarding sexuality – to the point that a man has no legal right to expect sex inside of marriage – we also find ourselves living in the most highly sexualized society since the frickin’ pagan times and the fertility worship in Babylon – literally. Sex can get you into untold hot-water today, yet on every street corner there’s tits shoved in your face and dental floss g-strings riding up out of every pair of low-riding, hip hugger jeans. Men no longer need to go to the seedy part of town with a ball-cap and shades to buy their porn, but can download 100 times better stuff in seconds by flicking on his computer. The TV gets bolder and bolder with each show, and soon we’ll be having nude commercials like they do in Europe. Yet, every day another law is passed restricting sexuality.
        If you look at what was going on in Sumeria and it’s subsequent off-shoot cultures, like the Babylonians, they were into some pretty wild shit as a society… but they also lived in a very sexual (and necessarily totalitarian) civilization. From what I understand – though have never read – there are hieroglyphic tablets dating back to Sumeria, the first civilization, that shows pretty much any perversion you could find on the internet today was also available in the ancient times of fertility worship. They were into things like collecting the combined fluids after sex, and consuming them to gain its power – because it represented the magical elixir of life. They also had a similar divorce industry, as well as concepts like child support and alimony – how else can a highly sexual society survive, unless the strong fist of government is involved? Without totalitarianism and loss of freedom, a highly sexual society will destruct in only a few generations.

        1. Well put. Or as CH states over at heartist (paraphrasing), the goal of feminism is the maximization of female sexual freedom and the minimization of male sexual freedom. That does seem to encapsulate what you said in a nutshell and the only way to accomplish it is with, indeed, tyrannical government.
          Seems our elite have studied societies from the past and set up circumstances here to mirror what occurred back then. Almost conspiratorial, but I tend not to want to go down that particular path.

        2. The interesting thing about “conspiracy theories” is:
          When you know enough to eliminate the “theory”…..
          What you are left with , is in fact, a “conspiracy”.

        3. Which countries in Europe have nude commercials? Can you give examples of a highly sexual societies that self-destructed after a few generations?

        4. In the Netherlands, “Fa” commercials have naked chicks running down the beach and in the showers.
          I can’t give you examples of highly sexual societies that self-destructed… because, they self destruct before becoming large enough to notice. But, there are plenty of examples and reference to instituting sexuality in order to gain totalitarian power while distracting the masses. Lenin’s Russia is a good example. Aldous Huxley also makes reference to doing this in Brave New World.

        5. I wasn’t even sure if I should have replied to English Bob since, in the argument he was questioning, I already listed two highly sexual societies – need one list more without a coherent argument except for “prove it.”?
          He’s left another few comments in this thread that are of the same nature – prove it, but I don’t actually have an argument aside from that.
          I can prove it… but, should one do so?
          At the end of this thread, he again tries to challenge about miscegenation – yet provides nothing more than a poem akin to John Lenin’s “Imagine there’s no heaven.”
          In other words, he’s trolling for a scrap for ideological purposes, rather than for expanding the mind.
          A dime a dozen.

        6. Is this your example of male rules? Bury a comment about me in a post to someone else? Why is it that when challenged on here some people have to bring out the old “you’re being female beta, omega” tripe.
          I didn’t provide an argument against miscegenation because it’s such a ludicrous and non-scientific belief, grounded in fear (hmm sounds like female rules”. It scarcely deserves attention. But I humored you now so you should feel better.

        7. You weren’t sure you should reply to someone who asks you questions about your argument? I find this baffling. What kind of person becomes defensive about someone questioning their argument? Certainly not someone who has full confidence in their argument. I asked you those questions for two reasons: 1) to better understand your argument before furnishing my own, and 2) because I find your claims dubious.
          Now then, lets deal with your argument. You say that you already listed two highly sexual societies (without clearly defining what you mean by “highly sexual”) that self-destructed in a few generations. I assume you mean Sumer and Babylon which lasted centuries? Well then you contradict yourself.
          Then you tell me that you can’t give me further examples because they self-destruct before anyone notices. Absurd. If no one noticed then how do you know they were highly sexual and that this is the reason they collapsed? In other words you cannot provide a single example to back up your claims!
          You have as much support for your arguments against “high sexuality” as you do for miscegenation. In other words, none. As I indicated before, you are worrying about stuff that doesn’t matter.
          I must say, these “male rules” of yours are very interesting, please tell me more…

        8. Ecclesiastes 1:9
          “The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.”

        9. conspiracy: an evil, unlawful, treacherous, or surreptitious plan formulated in secret by two or more persons; plot.

        10. It’s interesting how fast you responded to these posts, while not replying to my more “polite” posts, in which I answered your unfounded, and already previously stated claims.
          Obviously, you’re a leftist troll, looking for a scrap based upon ideological purposes, rather than upon seeking Truth.
          Don’t bother with me again – you will never get a response from – just like feminists.

        11. Those “male rules” are about the small white reproductive organs that don’t function too well, therefore sexuality=doom (for them).

      3. I have read research that indicates that sex addiction is a myth. What you actually have is people with high libidos. I take your point about the rewards to pleasure centers in the brain but sex cannot accurately be characterized as a drug.

        1. Agreed. The word “addiction” is almost always a code word for “willful lack of self control”. It’s an excuse that lets the person with impulse control issues off the hook, responsibility wise. There are real addictions, but they’re rare and easily qualified (true drug addiction, for example). But sex? No, the person just has a high libido and doesn’t want to control his/her impulses because they enjoy the sex.

        2. I am not talking about sex ‘addiction’. I was talking specifically about the sensations and dopamine release. It is not an addiction, but the need to continually increase stimulation to receive the same result, as well as the much greater pleasure from occasional abstinence, is absolutely real.

    2. I didn’t read the whole article but thoroughly enjoyed your comment.

    3. Nice Post. A couple of thoughts: Firstly, It’s been my thought that submissive men (and most gay men) are suffering from a kind of inversion. There are many ways this can happen, but ultimately they come to experience pleasure in the way proper to a female – that is to say, their pleasure comes from your pleasure (because your pleasure signals your bondage to them). The most extreme of this calls for an absolute denial of their pleasure so that they know it is your pleasure they feel. And what is further removed from pleasure in the fantasy world than pain? As the barriers between self and other further break down, more and more extreme acts are needed to satisfy the mental equation. Secondly, and this may be controversial to say, but as you’ve suggested, cuckolding as an extension of this trend indeed reflects a growing homosexual impulse. Carried on to the popularity of interracial cuckolding we see a few novel dynamics. The first has to do with castration anxiety and attempts to overcome it. This is probably the most destructive for society and social cohesiveness. The second is an offshoot of the first in that contrary to popular xenophobic beliefs, there is an impulse in human beings and perhaps life in general to unite with the “other” in a perfect union – to form an infinite network of “trust”. This impulse being suppressed because of the first dynamic, we get an “apparent” (experiential) increase in its urgency (kind of like how not being able to have something makes you want it more). Carried over to cuckolding, it would be natural that preferential choice in love object go to the forbidden object.

      1. There is a painting – I think by Titian, but I’ve searched through his paintings and couldn’t find it, so I’m not sure if it is him. In the picture, there is a king seated on his throne, and he is having his wives and concubines brought before him and executed.
        Why was he doing this?
        Because he was so bored with life, so unable to feel to emotion, that he was using the pain of watching their deaths to create feeling in himself.
        When ever I see the guys getting into the cuckold fetish, or agreeing to let their wife have MMF threesomes or such things, I think about that picture. The husband, in order to get a larger rush, is willing to do something abhorrent and in 99% of the cases, extremely damaging to the relationship, to get his rush. MMF/Cuckolding fetishes are BAD. Your submission to another man and letting him dominate your woman, vastly increases her attraction to the other man, while vastly diminishing the husband at the same time.
        It works completely opposite of a FFM threesome, where because of social proofing a lot women find their attraction to their husbands increases, because another woman wanting to hump her husband confirms he is high value. FFM works, but MMF does not. The MMF threesome often results in the woman and the outside man having an affair without the husband.
        Another thing which I wonder about, since heh, we keep coming back to this cuckold fetish thing, is if it is on the rise because so many average men are, in a sense, cuckolded today.
        I mean, even if you marry a woman after she’s had ten partners and remains faithful, you are still in a sense cuckolded, because ten men before you have conquered her, ravaged her, dominated her, made her submit to them, and she was their bitch… for a while… now she’s yours. You will always know, subconsciously, that you aren’t the only guy whose had her up on all fours and banged her senseless while she moaned “harder.”
        Then, with the high divorce rate, you actually ARE cuckolded – even if she didn’t cheat on you. I mean, you will still have feelings for your ex, and knowing the next branch/man is now making the love of your life his pin-cushion, brings up a lot of emotional turmoil in men which the men of the past never experienced with lifelong monogamy – today, almost all men experience this joy at one time or another, and lots of men experience it many times in life. I sometimes suspect that has a lot to do with what’s going on too – we are already exposed to mild forms of it.

      2. There are two main reproductive strategies found in human nature.
        1) fucking lots of women and hoping that some of those offspring will make it even if some die.
        2) forming a lasting relationship and pouring many resources into fewer children to ensure their success.
        Personally I think It is unfortunate that the current cultural climate makes it impossible for “betas” who are naturally driven to start families.
        Its like comparing introverts and extroverts, different strengths in different scenarios.

    4. Miscegenation is a bunch of bullshit. Stop worrying about stuff that doesnt matter.
      “Man don’t you
      Worry ’bout a thing
      ‘Bout your daughter
      Nope she’s not my type
      (But supposin’ she said she loved me)
      Are you afraid of the mix of Black and White?
      We’re livin’ in a land where
      The law say the mixing of race
      Makes the blood impure
      She’s a woman I’m a man
      But by the look on your face
      I See ya can’t stand it”

      1. Please explain beyond a poem – in other words, the poem doesn’t prove fuck all. What is your actual argument?

        1. The “poem” is one verse of Public Enemy’s Fear of a Black Planet from 1990. The actual argument is that the human race is one huge hot bed of mixing going back as long as humans existed. White people are not a race. They are a mix of an infinite array of tribes. Not only that it’s not “your” own race. It’s a collection of individuals with their own values and ideas about life. Consequently, if a white chick is banging a black guy it has nothing the fuck to do with you and your hand wringing is ultimately futile.

        2. Wow!
          That was extremely insightful!
          Now, do you have views you’ve formed on your own besides the poem?

  4. Value added should be the premise of EVERY relationship. Regardless if that person is a family member, friend, business associate, girl, etc. Anyone that detracts from the quality of your life doesn’t deserve your time. If more American men employed that standard Americunts would clean up their behavior in no time. As it stands however, they have no reason for doing so as they are rewarded for being detractors in mens’ lives.

    1. Agreed, though I would like to add that the best relationships are usually characterized by ongoing mutual value-addition. Otherwise, the less well-positioned counterparty ends up feeling shorted on the interaction sooner or later and the inevitable decline begins.

  5. This is why sexual double standards are so important. The most successful relationships have a man who has banged many chicks and therefore does not pedestalize his woman, and a female who has had few or no sexual partners before him. This helps to establish the natural “frame.” For example, it was very common for Kings in the Middle Ages to have multiple mistresses – but a Queen caught being unfaithful was almost certainly put to death. The difference is in biology, she was fucking with the royal succession and offending the personage of the King. His whores meanwhile we just cum dumpsters to enjoy.
    TL;DR – There is a strong correlation between your notch count and your appreciation for the consistent jellybean adders. Queen of Hearts and all that.

    1. The most successful relationships I have witnessed were religious families where both partners were loyal to one another and added value to relationship individually.

      1. Indeed. As long as both partners are sufficiently cognizant to be able to work as a team towards their commonly shared good they will grow in strength and end up functioning as a unit. Add a number of such blood-related units together and you start to form a clan that can reach formidable levels of power depending on the overall quality and dedication of its constituents. Working together can indeed end up benefitting everybody so long as workload, work type, and reward are properly ascertained and meted out as such.
        On the other hand, have everybody going their own selfish ways and, well… don’t be surprised when once large and extended families collapse and their ex-members eventually become absorbed and effaced by the greater world at large.

  6. There are very few women in America of the first type. The feminist state has put vast resources into socializing girls from a young age to not think in terms of what they can offer, only in terms of what they can get. (Note: The hysteria over women that work for Hobby Lobby not getting 4 out of 20 options of birth control for free). Hence, the equation is now entirely about the jelly beans available in the man’s jar. All women walk around with completely empty jell bean jars these days.
    9 out 10 American women are the second type, with Borderline Personality Disorder. It is only a matter of degree, e.g., where they lie on the spectrum of pathology. This is fine if you are a man with self-control, play it smart, don’t mistake chemical reactions for love, and stay focused only on getting sex. This is a nightmare if you are a needy man that is blue pill, lacking in intelligence and/or real world savvy.
    Some day, extensive scientific studies will be done of the mass hysteria (which is always female) of women from the turn of 21st century. We can see some of the enablers already, such as social media and manipulative and unscrupulous politicians. But, in hindsight, there will be better perspective. I suspect that one of the most significant factors future scientists will find is that men began losing their organizing skills at some point in the 1970’s or 1980’s. This caused men to lose the ability to follow their natural instinct to impose order and discipline on the female half of the population.

    1. Exactly. Good luck finding women in category #1 in America. There aren’t nearly enough to go around for men with a positive Jelly Bean count I can tell you that.

    2. I suspect that one of the most significant factors future scientists
      will find is that men began losing their organizing skills at some point
      in the 1970’s or 1980’s.

      That’s still at the symptomatic level though. Why is the real question. We can pipe up with “feminism!” and yeah, sure, ok I agree, but *why* precisely would they submit to this. The guys of the 1970’s, excepting hippies, were not brow beaten wusses (regardless of how they dressed back then). What in the name of Pete would cause basically masculine guys to say “Yeah, sure, I’ll give up being a man. Hey, let’s form a band called Hall and Oates!”? Sex? The sexual revolution was in the 60’s and bled into the early 80’s, but was that all it took? As I recall from the times, and I was still rather young in the 70’s, it didn’t seem like normal real life women were actively exchanging nookie for ideological conversions towards hard core feminism. More like guys suddenly having a great time. Maybe that was it though, leading back to the “too much sex is bad for society” theory posited by Jeb below? Maybe they were so sated with sex that doing anything beyond the minimum became normal, and the will to oppose what was being taught in universities and seeping into mainstream culture was just not there. No guy feels like picking up arms and taking people to the wall when he’s been laid five times a week.
      Guess I’m asking, and speculating about answers on my own question. Rambling, heh, pardon.

    3. The Hobby Lobby reactions you mention is not limited to women, I’ve seen a slew of white knights who lost their man cards long ago spewing vitriol over this as well. Sad state of affairs society is.

    4. This is sounding prophetic now. Future research. We men must paint that picture of tomorrows victory – AND THEN DIVE INTO IT. It is in legend that the OBELISK actually represents an ancient ‘male victory’ within our species when we foisted ourselves out from under female domination. Breaking out of institutionalized ‘bitch rule’ as depicted in ‘genisis II’ , a ’70’s mini-series where whip carrying women in fishnets kept the males as pet slaves. Today, some betas fetishize being a whip to electra in costume, but WATCH OUT. Watch what you wish for. We learn that in slavery, you don’t have to be physically larger to dominate. Control is all in the mind. Never let your brow fall under the point of her stiletto. Keep the bitch barefoot and naked. She can wear YOUR bathrobe if she wants to go in public. But in the castle, its barefoot, naked and pregnant. What real woman wouldn’t love that.

    5. Brother, one can fit those years to the beginning of the noticeable effects on males of the huge amount of estrogen in birth control pills starting in the 60’s.

  7. The only relationship a man must get locked into is – with his own self.
    He must love himself. Fuck as many women as you want, but mentally commit to only yourself.
    Women are a part of the journey in a man’s life. They aren’t the destination. I look at them as public transport to be used to reach your destination. And I always get down before the bus starts going in the direction of its own. Which every public transport (woman) will eventually do.
    That’s what life is all about. A relationship is nothing but a self surrender into Betadom. Women are always a burden and a liability. You don’t have to become a beast of burden for them.

    1. Reading article after article and comment after comment here eventually leads to finding a gem such as your comment.
      Well said.

      1. I was going to say the same thing but you beat me to it. Gems like this keep me coming back to ROK

  8. I’ll tell you what’s the best way to handle bitches in LTR. The moment she escalates the shit test and the bitching, you just make yourself unavailable, disappear for a week or two. No explanation, not a word. Gone fishing!
    When you come back you fuck her rough, do some spanking, bondage or something dominant shit like that. It buys you at least a month of peace and quiet.
    The reason why this works is because while you’re away she fantasises about you fucking another bitch and as we all know … women like that. It raises your value.
    If she accuses you of cheating, you of course deny it but do not sound too defensive.

    1. That would work, outside of the confines of LTR/marriage. The article however is about LTR’s and even brings up marriage. Taking a walkabout for a few weeks won’t yield the same results in that circumstance. Walk away, yes, go to a bar for the evening and don’t invite her to the cookout at your friends the next day, but if you walk out for 2-3 weeks and you’re married, well, you’re about to be introduced to her family law attorney post haste.

      1. The length of your absence does not have to be that long, even a couple of days is enough. But the sheer fact that you have the balls to pull it off makes her pussy wet.
        But the longer you’re gone the better. It refreshes the relationship. It’s like taking a break from each other but you take the lead.

        1. My father used to do that a lot. He would get into the car and drive away of the screaming bitch.The only problem is that it was my who had to deal with a violent psycotic woman on my own. A nice childhood indeed.

  9. I think why some aalpha males fall victim to longterm relationships is also boredom with running game. They eventually find one of the women that adds more jelly beans than she takes away. They decide to take a chance because they are an aalpha and dominate regardless of the circumstances. The next challenge is a long-term relationship and maybe marriage. Although they know the nature of women through game, they still feel they can control a woman with enough masculine behavior, money and intelligence. That’s where some redpill men are hit with a wake up call that’s its nearly impossible to maintain a proper, honest and loyal marriage or LTR in today’s society. No matter how aalpha you are.

    1. It is sobering to realize that even a red-pill man can fall into complacency with relationships. I guess with how shitty most Western women are, when you run across one that breaks that mold, it can be easy to revert into Betamode and get all mushy about it, and fall into complacency with your Game and Alpha attitude.
      It’s downright dumb to think that any man, even the most capable Alpha player, can truly control a woman and “disarm” her, so to speak, especially if you undertake a LTR in a slutting/cuckolding encouraging society. Comforting, but downright fuckin dumb.
      This is why the Red Pill can’t be taken in just a one-time dose…you need to pop a few on a regular basis to keep yourself in check. A cold, hard, often depressing slap in the face a day keeps the Divorce Industrial Complex away.

      1. Best to carry a nice red pill dispenser with you at all times. When the gut instinct creeps up and you just know something is wrong, that marks the proper time to swallow a much needed refill. A decent group of classic manosphere books in mobi on your smartphone makes for a handy field guide that can be consulted on the spot for quick reference whenever the need to identify a specific specimen presents itself.

      2. If men were not frowned upon in our society for cheating it wouldn’t matter though. A aalpha could be in long term relationship with a woman that adds to his life and also keep mistresses and side pieces to keep his edge in game and red pill philosophy. This would be a win-win for the man and both women. The man would get variety, maintain his high value and get the benefits of a LTR and/or marriage. The wife would get being seen with a man of high value and have some of his resources(money, sex, attention, child) dedicated to her. The mistress/es would get to sleep a man of high value.

  10. Consistently sweet, unselfish, vulnerable, feminine women are like kryptonite to a player; natural or red pill. It’s much more difficult to P&D a “consistent adder” to the jellybean jar… pardon the pun. Then, after you commit to the sweet adder, she goes all viperous AWALT on you; the fangs are bared and the venom spews forth.
    Good and perceptive article.

    1. You were dealing with a skilful chameleon my friend (of which there are many I must agree). Some of them are even better and more like cuttlefish – able to adjust their colour, texture, and shape all at once. They can even mimic other life forms, such as a wide variety of colourful chanting birds with their varied plumage and melodic intonations (you will need to leave the Anglosphere for that last one), as well as a number of small felines with their sly movements and affectionate cuddles. Now those are the ones you really have to look out for.

    2. I was just telling a friend the other day its not the feminist I worry about the most, it’s the sweet ones. You can see a feminist coming from a mile away. Sometimes literally with their dyed hair, tattoos, piercings, that awkward stiff and jerky way they walk, the hysterical way they talk etc. Lol. But the sweet ones, you wake up one day to realize without knowing exactly when it happened, that they’ve become a part of your lives not easily abandoned.

  11. Interesting article. I’m dating a girl that falls into the ‘add to the jar group’, but have always considered it a short-term thing. This article makes me think twice.

  12. I’m honestly blown away that you think anyone needs to be told this. Don’t fucking become a slave to someone unless they are pretty fucking valuable to you. Jesus christ. This is not rocket science.

  13. Listened to the video, I currently want to stab this dude in the neck with a knife.
    Women dont need help getting men. They’re evil enough as is.
    Also, Bitch in the video totally brings up feminist B.S. about objectifying…

  14. So, a woman should make her partner’s life better? She ought to be a net positive in some else’s world? I never heard anything so misogynist in my life! Women should be valued entirely because they are each special, precious snowflakes who desrves a mayn, house, baby, and a lifetime of free income just because.
    Calvin: “Do you think we should judge people by their actions, or by who they are inside?”
    Hobbes: “I belive a person’s actions reveal what they are inside.”

  15. Sadly I’ve never known a man, myself included, to be able to tell the difference between the nice girl, the mentally damaged quiet girl and the girl whose faking it to lock you down. It’s like a big reveal two or three years in. Is she fucked up? Does she wanna fuck yo up? Is she actually OK?
    At least wuth a psycho you know what you’re handling.

  16. One of the simplest things you can do to find a good woman is look for one that smiles alot. Its the surest sign of an optimist..and of a woman who will quickly get over any problem.

    1. I’ll have to try that. What was I thinking. I’ve been going around saying ”son, the best way to catch a woman is . . . well, bend your dick in the shape of a fish hook”

  17. Well I wanted to comment about this article on your Facebook, but you have blocked me. I guess that’s what you get for disagreeing with an article you post, very cowardly and beta, incredibly hypocritical. I guess this isn’t the place for real men who want to engage in discussion, it’s just another jerk-off circle.

  18. Hello. I liked the podcast. There’s any other advice I should take to keep my man? like should I text him first? I should wait for him unil he calls?

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