Islamic Terrorist Kills 20 People At Homosexual Nightclub In Florida (UPDATE: 50 Killed)

Via Daily Mail:

Update from CNN: Police: 50 killed in Florida nightclub terror attack

A suspected Islamic extremist wielding an assault rifle and a handgun has killed about 20 people after taking party-goers hostage inside a gay club in Orlando.

The gunman was carrying a suspicious device, possibly a suicide vest, when he opened fire on the dance floor inside Pulse in the early hours of this morning.

Orlando Police Chief John Mina said authorities have not determined the exact number of people killed, but that ‘approximately 20’ have died. Another 42 people were taken to hospital.

An FBI spokesman said the mass shooting is being investigated as an act of terrorism, adding that they are looking into whether this was an act of domestic or international terror, and if the shooter was a lone wolf.

Police said the gunman, who was shot dead by officers, was believed to be in his 20s was not a local man, while the FBI believe he may have ‘leanings to radical Islamic terrorism’.

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587 thoughts on “Islamic Terrorist Kills 20 People At Homosexual Nightclub In Florida (UPDATE: 50 Killed)”

  1. So will big govt. stop bringing more islamists into the country and tighten immigration controls? Yeah. They won’t. The usual SOP will blame Americans access to firearms and scream more about disarming the population.
    The leftist narrative never deviates from the script.

    1. It will be the government stopping the flow of these illegals (potential terrorists) or the people removing these people in government to stop it. It will be one or the other…but both can continue to exist.
      Any political officials still supporting the move to bring in more “Syrian refugees” should be considered a traitor to this country and an enemy of the people.

  2. The FBI called it before sunrise. They seem to be feeling a little more froggy these days, good for them

    1. Yeah, seems likely the FBI/DHS/CIA and other alphabet soup agencies don’t want a repeat of the Summer of 2001 where, as others may recall, small-scale terrorist activities abroad went unnoticed (or regarded as “business as usual”), but nonetheless may have been practice runs culminating in the WTC attacks.

  3. No it’s not Islam. It’s “religions”.
    Blaming “religions” after such an event allows you to attack the weakest of the group, (the Christians) for things they haven’t done. That way you get a cheap “free thinker” aura.
    Surely you don’t want to go against muslims, that would be bigotted of you, plus you imported them, and they are kind of dangerous, and that would go against the narrative.

    1. I agree. You only need to correct people when they “religions” by saying Islam is the problem. Don’t worry about being called a bigot, racist, etc….just own it….and point out all of the deadly shootings.
      There is a connection….and it’s not “religions”….it is Islam.

        1. God forbid the English want to keep their country “English”. Immigration sympathizers are flat out traitors.

        2. over here in the US, leftists complain that trump is a “nativist.” because apparently a leader looking out for the interests of the native-born population of his country is a bad thing.

    1. Now, they are really united. They have a history together.
      Let’s see if they change sides now that their “ally” has shot up a gay club (killed people).

    1. reminds me of the cologne mass sex attacks. at first, liberals on my FB seemed convinced, ridiculously, that the perps were native germans. they were indignant. when it became clear that the attackers were muslim “refugees” they didn’t want to talk about it anymore.

      1. when it became clear that the attackers were muslim “refugees” they didn’t want to talk about it anymore

        ikr? I laughed my ass off when they had no choice but back off.

    2. I love how all of them use the country to identify the shooters. It was an American man (first)….maybe a Muslim (second) from another country.
      It was a Swedish, German or etc…man (first)…then you find out the shooter was from Syria, Iraq, North Africa, etc…..
      When it comes to white people…they just blurt it out….crazy white man shoots people….

  4. Well at least we know it’s not a false flag attack. No way they’d injure the narrative by pitting supposed “allies” against each other.

    1. Rooth, afaik; whenever US army practice their drills, when they fake-battle before the real thing, US is always Blue Team. And the enemy is Red Team.
      And this, this is red on red. So I doubt americans are shedding their tears for this.

    2. I suspect they will double down on anti 2nd amendment, anti straight male rhetoric to eclipse the Islamic component.

      1. It’s been tried before. It will take several decades before a move like that will work.

        1. …and the attempts at attacking the 2nd Amendment/gun ownership always have opposite results, i.e. more citizens buying guns!!

      2. “I suspect they will double down on anti 2nd amendment, anti straight male rhetoric to eclipse the Islamic component”
        They already have – this from cnn.com :
        “We have got to do everything that we can on top of that to make sure that guns do not fall into the hands of people who should not have them, criminals, people who are mentally ill”
        No mention of any connection the club being a gay establishment and the gunman being an islamic terrorist.
        The official response from the politicos on the left is that they are “awaiting further information”
        And yeah the retards will start screaming “gun control” and figure out a way to up-amp white male hatred.

        1. a la NBC:
          “Mateen had security and firearm licenses and the gunman’s weapons were legally purchased within the past week.”
          So either they paint law enforcement in a negative light again, or they up the ante and make a unilateral push against all gun ownership.

        2. …make sure that guns do not fall into the hands of people who should not have them…

          In this category I would put the government and all of their agents.

        3. Well so far “we” have been successful in keeping bombs out of the hands of terrorists…

        4. Licenses? What licenses are they referring to? You don’t need a license to own a gun in Florid.
          I suspect they are trying to imply that even though he was “validated” by the State he still shot people up. And so therefore we must keep guns out of the hands of the population.

        5. Dude worked as a security guard so he definitely had a permit in the Gunshine State.

        6. I remember after the Paris attacks, CNN asked with all kinds of willful, fake ignorance, “Why?” and I wanted to puke. So disingenuous, just like Obama and his inability to say, “Radical Islam.” Obama used gays for 8 years as his boutique issue shield. He championed gays all the time (when it distracted from his robbery of the middle class) and when they get slaughtered, he craps on their graves but staying mum on the reason for why it happened. It was, “hate,” dontcha know? Why not just say the reason for the killings was ‘murder’.
          “We have to stop ‘Murder’”
          Okay…phony asshole.

        7. IRS, BLM, any other agencies not under the Departments of Justice or Homeland Security

        1. Prohibition on alcohol worked well, what are you talking about!?…………………..

      3. “Straight american national male kills 50 LGTB”. We already know the answer, guns and patriarchy killed them.

        1. If they are going to blame random shit that had nothing to do with it, which they totally will, I wish they would come out and be like “bearded man kills 50 clean shaven” and blame the whole thing on facial hair.

        2. The homosexuals from Pulse report getting messages and talking with Mateen on gay dating apps and made reports of Mateen having sex with men apparently these homos are saying the truth but the cops and feds are trying to cover up anyrhinf that was gay about Mateen

      4. Well, in fairness, one of the arguments against gun control is that in a situation like this all the club’s customers would be armed and the shooter will be ‘disabled’ very quickly. Apparently there was a bit of a firefight between the gunman and an officer who worked at the club which ended when the gunman took hostages. But I was wondering if none of the customers and/or hostages were armed. If not, why not? If they were armed, why did only one out of all the customers shoot back?

        1. I mentioned this elsewhere here. That argument doesn’t apply in this type of club. If everyone in this club was armed, odds are when the shooting started they would have been sticking their guns in their asses and would still have been taken unawares

      5. Chances are very good. Makes you wonder, are they aware of how stupid and ruinous they are being or are they just incredibly misguided.

    3. If there’s any conspiracy afoot, I’d say it’s the undermining of traditional Islam with violent radical extremism. The answer to this “worldwide problem” of jihad is to destroy Islam, which is the last major religion in the world today which enforces gender roles, shames sluts, punishes degenerate behavior. Game, set, match.

      1. They would go after the Shia first. They seem to be doing ok with their traditional culture.

        1. “They would go after the shii first. They seem to be doing ok with their traditional culture.”
          The Shia are allied with Russia against USA/NATO and the Sunni, so correct.

        2. Yep, Iraq was shii. And it was one of the most peaceful, modern nations in the Mideast until it was bombed back to the 1800s. It was also one of the only places in the Mideast where one could find Christian churches. Can’t say that will be happening again any time soon….

        3. “Yep, Iraq was shii. And it was one of the most peaceful, modern nations. in the Mideast until it was bombed back to the 1800s. It was also one of the only places in the Mideast where one could find Christian churches.”
          Iraq was a Sunni minority country, yet run by the Sunni, because the Sunni elite were willingly to run the country as a vassal state, so genocides against the Shia and Kurds were permitted (overlooked or even enabled) until the fall of the USSR allowed the USA to dream big.

        4. Iraq was never peaceful….under Saddam he was murdering in the thousands….prior to Saddam it was a cesspool too….and after…the common denominator…Islam…. a low IQ degenerate culture of people and religion.

        5. The common denominator is 3rd world subhumans. Islam is tailored to their very nature.

        6. “Yep, Iraq was shii. And it was one of the most peaceful, modern nations in the Mideast until it was bombed back to the 1800s”
          Not quite sport.

        7. If you want to disparage and hate strangers you have never met and know nothing about, you will find plenty of company, especially on the internet. However, the facts do not support that claim. Even if you factor in the suppression where the Iraqi military killed perhaps 100,000 innocent Kurds in the late 1980s in a political uprising (which any government, including our own, has and would do when faced with internal rebels), life was far safer prior to 2000.
          If one looks to unbiased sources, one will find that Hussein was a secular leader, who moved the country away from religion, developed modern technologies, instituted universal education and health care, improved infrastructure, and greatly decreased the poverty rate. It is true that if one undertook certain actions, such as openly criticizing or rebelling, one risked imprisonment. But that is far different than today, where one lives in constant fear, and merely crossing the street can result in your life ending at random.

        8. Plenty of Christian churches in Lebanon bro, even down here in the south where its 90% Shi3a.

      2. “If there’s any conspiracy afoot, I’d say it’s the undermining of traditional Islam with violent radical extremism.”
        No such thing as “moderate” Islam. Or I should say it is modern invention that the West imposed by backing secular/moderate strongmen.

        1. People attack me for being pro Israel lol, no other country is willing and able and actively fighting these fuckers.
          I volunteer my time to help them, and I’m going to continue doing so as long as there is a heartbeat in me.
          FUCK ISLAM AND ITS FUCKING PEDOFIILE PROFET!!!!

        2. I’m talking about the dozens of nations with populations in the millions or hundreds of millions where they live life basically the same as everyone else in the world, except the women dress modestly, gay nightclubs don’t exist, and there are no slutwalks.
          I’m talking about places like Brunei, Bangladesh, Morocco, Oman, Malaysia, Jordan, Indonesia, Lebanon. Places that are more peaceful than the USA, with lower crime rates and less degeneracy. Maybe you think they all need to accept Jesus as their Lord and Personal Savior, I’m merely pointing out facts. If one wants to destroy conservative, patriarchal values, an all out war on Islam is an excellent way to do it.
          Funny how it’s always the traditional cultures that are our “enemies”: Russia, Vietnam, Latin America, Korea, Japan. And our allies are Canada, Australia, and western Europe.

        3. ” If one wants to destroy conservative, patriarchal values, an all out war on Islam is an excellent way to do it.”
          They want to destroy Christianity in general and Orthodoxy in particular. They are happily surrendering the West to Islam and Sharia law. Don’t worry about a crusade against Islam, it won’t happen.

        4. I’m talking about places like Brunei, Bangladesh, Morocco, Oman, Malaysia, Jordan, Indonesia, Lebanon.

          Indonesia is one of the world’s most religiously restrictive countries in the world.
          source: http://www.pewforum.org/2012/09/20/rising-tide-of-restrictions-on-religion-findings/
          Don’t even get me started on Lebanon. Let’s just say, not so long ago, Lebanon had a Christian majority, was far safer and seen as “the Paris of the Middle East.” I’ll leave you to guess what changed that.
          Hint: It’s also why Paris is now called the “Beirut of Europe.”

        5. I remember traveling in the Middle East years ago. Beirut was like a watering hole!

        6. I’m a Bangladeshi Christian, which is a like a super minority. There are more christians in Pakistan and Iran then there are in Bangladesh. And yes Bangladesh isn’t as extreme as say Pakistan but if you’ve been watching BBC you would know that it is not the best place for a christian, hindu, buddhist, atheist blogger, or any type of secular blogger. People are getting their heads chopped like animals for Eid there right now by pro islamists in the country, just cause they think they said something bad about Muhammed. I’m sick of hearing all this bull crap about Christianity from the liberals and even you guys. Stop acting as if Christianty is pussified, I grew in Bangladesh until I was 8 years old when I came into the States, and all this degenerate behavior by people claiming to be Christians was never a thing there. My family still adheres to a strict patriarchal family structure where we all listen to our dad before making any decision. Living among muslims I know that not all of them are bad, but there religion is terrible and that’s why a lot of them distances themselves from their religion when they reach of age and start to understand how terrible some of islams teachings are.

        7. I agree the West hates conservative values but that is because the West hates the God of the Old Testament. The God that ordains the nation state and to be fruitful and multiply. The Zionists, the ones behind Western progressivism are the ones that benefit from the erosion of traditional values. They are also the ones behind the exaltation of homosexuality.
          You’re generating a false equivalence with Islam however. Islam is not just a religion but entirely supplants the nation state with religious, legislative and political structure.
          I am a Christian and I follow the Bible’s teachings. While the Bible does have a lethal punishment for homosexuality, the commandment is also to obey local laws and regulations.

        8. i’m no expert on the middle east, but spicynujac’s characterization of lebanon and bangladesh as “peaceful” seemed off to me too. on the other hand, i’ve heard good things about morroco too.

        9. I don’t see Israel attacking ISIS. And nor do I see ISIS attacking Israel. There is evidence to suggest that Israel/Mossad is behind ISIS. It would certainly benefit Israel to have the ME succumb to a band of mindless pedophile marauders that are hell-bent on eradicating Christians and Shiites.
          Another thing Israel LOVES the fagnostics and gaytheists. Tel Aviv at this time of year is the capital of sodomy. That simply doesn’t square with your assertions.

        10. stefan molyneux talks about this in this video, how islam is not just a religion, but also a political system. it’s at about 4:23, but the whole video makes some great points.

        11. Actually, ISIS fears Israel. )) It is about only thing that those bearded paragons of dumbness fear…apart from being killed by a woman (Kurds, e.g.), or by a russian “free-for-all” attack. 🙂
          Also, ISIS DOESN`T benefit Hebrews in any way: if they win, Israel has Saudis (and the rest of the merry bunch) on its back – if they lose…an empowered (nuclear, Russia-enhanced) Iran is looming above.
          True…the gentle ways of Sodom took a firm root in Holy Land lately…))..but, Supreme One is known to react with some Major Fiery Saltiness in such cases…))…even if later, rather then sooner. 🙂

        12. By virtue of using “ISIS” you have already proven to be an uninformed twat at best.
          Who gives a fuck about the shit you say, have you ever had anything to do with he IDF? No? Well I have, plenty, and I can guarantee that they make the US army look like a band of fags and queers in comparison.

        13. Yes, the american religious right absolutely loves to boast about ‘ Muh Greatest Ally ‘ .
          But there are photos online of Israelis taking care of wounded ISIS warriors. Not to mention the American mission couldn’t do jack shit against ISIS. And then Putin comes and wrecks them in a few weeks.
          Israel is no ally of the US. Just remember the USS Liberty incident.
          But we should learn from them how to treat muslims, I’ll give you that.

        14. The american religious right is apostate and unbiblical. I really recommend the movie “Marching To Zion”.

        15. Israel actively supports Alqaeda with weapons, medical treatment, food etc. against the secular Syrian government, which is the real enemy of israel.

        16. Weapons not so much, medical treatment yes, they do for anyone who is injured regardless of affiliation, you might want to check your sources.
          For Israel Assad is only a low level threat at this point so there is no real focus on what’s going on with that… At least in Israel directly.

        17. You just confirmed what I said and contradicted your previous post. Israel supports Alqaeda. Assad is allied with Hezbollah, so it’s not a low level threat but a big one.

        18. It used to be the Switzerland of the Middle East. Today is on the way down (since the Civil War).

        19. I’m wondering if you are obtuse or just play at it really well. Israel doesn’t support alqaida any more than it supports the Falun Gong. They provide medical care for all injured brought to them on humanitarian principle.
          Hezbollah is separate from Assad, support or not isn’t relevant at this point because Assad is a small pawn in that game.
          From how you speak it sounds as if you have no clue what’s going on there, if you did you would know that “alqaida” etc are not really even factors big enough for anyone tho give a shit about them.
          Now if Assad had been less of an Iranian pawn and not backed Hezballah the situation today in Syria might be quite different, but he didn’t so fuck him.

        20. Why is it the most religiously restrictive countries are also the most religious?

        21. But did your patriarchal beliefs spring from your local church and pastor, or just from your father? My point is the institution of Christianity is no longer a belief of traditional values and patriarchy. At least not in the west.

        22. I was just about to put forth a similar notion to that of yours. A lot of so-called moderate Islamic nations are those I wouldn’t dream of setting foot in, but exception for the UAE. I call them NSFW (not safe for whitey)

        23. This is true. Christianity in the west is castration for males the way it’s practiced and preached.
          Christianity spawned the bastard child of liberalism. The kind we now see rampant in the west.
          Now that bastard has all grown up and become a deviant little fuck. While the old feminized Christianity just exists to co-sign for the degeneracy of pathological altruism.

        24. Alright zioboy, how is giving medical treatment to Alqaeda not supporting Alqaeda? Humanitarian treating jihadists? Alqaeda is a BIG factor in Syria, especially in Idlib and Alepo, thanks to Turkey, Saudi, israel, the european puppets + Obama and Hitlery. You are full of shit.

        25. Western Christianity is weak and disempowered to the extent that it has abandoned the scriptures. The Word sets out clearly all the proper principles for family, society and gender roles.

        26. Giving medical treatment indiscriminately is in my view a noble act, not something that should be condemned.
          The nusra front is close to shattered as far as I know, and most of that is more a gone issue.
          I don’t have a specific preference for who should emerge as a leader but you can’t even spell Aleppo correctly so your side is in big trouble.

        27. Dude, my family are originally from BD and are Muslims. Completely agree with you on all those points. I’m one of those people ‘distancing’ and have done so for a while.
          Being a minority in BD especially sucks. There’s plenty of murder and rape of communities that are powerless to do anything. It’s all ironic too since the country was partly formed against Pakistani atrocities of a similar nature.
          That said there are people who just don’t care. They just go along with Islam’s bullshit to keep face. But eventually religious pressure forces them to prove their faith or threatens their lives if they don’t.

        28. The beliefs stem from Eastern culture. Having ‘liberal’ parents without a patriarchal family structure is an oddity, reserved for the wealthy. Most people in the East are patriarchal irrespective of their religion.
          So yes, I agree. Christianity is no longer a belief of traditional and patriarchal values. The indication being that culture has degenerated religion.

        29. Most of them learnt that from the Nazi’s. I’d say we need to be nearly eradicated as a civilisation to do likewise. Fortunately Cultural Marxism and the SJW’s are doing just that!

        30. If people actually acknowledged just how much damage Israel and its puppet state the U.S has done to the middle east instead of regurgitating what their compromised media and politicians have indoctrinated them with then they might understand that the middle easterners are getting fucked with the same globalist stick we are.

        31. Anyone with a modicum of nous of the region can see ISIS and Al Qaeda are highly beneficial to Israel’s position.
          Its adversaries or nation states that could possibly oppose their geopolitical dominance are crippled from within.
          Not to mention Joe public westerner is only more convinced to use their beloved democracy to vote for more bombs to blow Israels enemies to oblivion.

        32. ‘Israels sacred terrorism’ is a good book on the Zionist role in that war and how they flooded the country with Syrian/Palestinian refugees then carried out false flag attacks on different religious/ethnic groups posing as others to generate hate, distrust and chaos in their disliked neighbours Lebanon.
          The people of whom we should not criticize have been playing this same wicked game for centuries on numerous peoples. Divide and conquer.

        33. Oh, they do use “divide et impera” a lot…))..they learned it from the originators of the proverb themselves. 🙂 Still, they use it for the purpose of survival…and the word “beneficial” may be used in that sense only. Peace is always better for business…even when selling arms.
          Crippling the enemies from within? Manipulating allies to fight your enemies? That is BAD???
          The one who doesn’t learn from good generals in the battlefield is mostly a fool, shaking an impotent fist at uninterested, indifferent heavens. ))
          Still, thank You for your modica of wisdom, Drago. :)))

        34. “Peace is always better for business…”
          Muslims and Christians killing each other is fantastic business….for some people.

        35. War is good for business.
          Peace is good for business. 🙂
          – Ferengi Rules of Acquisition –
          ))))

        36. “they use it for the purpose of survival”
          The meaning ‘Survival’ and ‘Conquering ‘ must have very similar meanings in Hebrew.

        37. Apart from that truly distasteful plethora of illegal settlements (which are, in truth, more HARMING their cause, than helping)…and the occupation of Golan heights (for water, mostly), I don`t see Hebrews having any other territorial pretensions toward their neighbours.
          Their pragmatic politics eliminated the extremist riff-raff demanding Sinai already in the 70`s, to the most extent.
          As for “conquering the World” and “making everybody their slaves” by other means…I cannot see them do more then getting very rich (some of them…and then, so what?), being quite a bit nepotistic (where they can), financing a lot of rubbish movies and other entertainment (you can always turn away from that, can You?)) ….and betting their money on the wrong horse (again) ….))
          Also, I can not see them pull any such trick bypassing the Chinese. 🙂 Not very judeo-Christian bunch them. :))))))
          On the other hand…would YOU like to rule over this World….such as it is now? ))
          P.s. The modern hebrew word for “survival” has a root shared with words “vestige”, “residue” ,”refugee” and “remnant”.
          On the other hand, the word “conquer” is used only several times in the Old Testament (two times…if I remember well…I don`t read unoriginal pamphlets anymore…prefer much saucier “Gilgamesh”..))..and in one of these two cases…it was HEBREWS that got their asses kicked… with the permission of One Who Is, of course. 🙂
          (Deuteronomy 2:31, 2 Chronicles 32:1…)
          So, close…but, no cigar… ;))
          (…speaking of “conquer”…my favourite verse IS in the New Testament…Revelation 13:7….mmmm…)))

        38. You spelled the word prophet incorrectly (profet) in one of your previous posts which is an english word, unlike the name of some sand n1gger region (Aleppo) nobody in the west should even give half a sh1t about. I thought education was important to you people Heimy, or are you just a cuck who tosses joo salad because “muh bible”?

        39. Lol the mis spelling is most likely due to my native language being Swedish where that’s how you spell it. Could be autocorrect even.
          I have no idea what Heimy is but I give no shits about the bible. I’m not a Christian.
          I know most of the names of the region correctly because sofar often I have gotten involved in one way or the other in what’s going on there. Not right now though, because I don’t see the point without some sort of actual plan and direction.

      3. Hey bro im not gonna rage it or anything like that. But first Lebanon is not and never will be ISLAMIC the reason why in Lebanon the Muslims live like normal civilised people is because of the heavy Christian presence and influence. It is NOT because of the great muslims. If the Christians didn’t fight back Lebanon would be another Afghanistan. And tbh theres no such thing as peacful or modern muslims. Look at Turkey we all thought how wonderful and secular it was look at it now in 20 years will resemble Saudi. Anyway bro speaking from love not attacking you just saying check yourself before you shrek yourself

        1. Lebanon is going to be a vital battleground for the survival of Christianity in the Middle East and, i dare say, in the World.

        2. Unfortunately. my biase of this topic aside what we are witnessing in the west today was happening to Lebanon during the 1975 civil war. There are many striking similarities the only difference is in the west we are disarmed or where I am in Australia we are anyway. So I’m not sure how we will be able to manage

        3. ” Lebanese Christians need to bring back the Christian militias from the civil war. ”
          Bring it on !

        4. Good points…I also noticed that Turkey has been going off the rails, devolving into a theocratic shithole. Of course, it will become that way thru some fuck-shite democratic process. I would hate to be living in Greece or Macedonia right about now.

        5. I don’t think you comprehend the greater plan of PTB; elimination/extermination of all religions except the old/new coming one. The Light Bringer religion. heh.

        6. “According to CIA world factbook, Lebanon is 54% Muslim and 40.5% Christian.”
          In 1926, it was 84% Christian, but the point of the Lebanese Christian is that Christians make the Lebanon livable for non-Muslims, by having proven able and willingly to defend themselves, not Islam. I’d add neighboring Israel to the equation as well, because the Jihadis know that too much strife with Lebanese Christians risks another Israeli intervention/invasion.

    4. “Mir Seddique, Mateen’s father, told NBC News, “this has nothing to do with religion.” Seddique said his son got angry when he saw two men kissing in Miami a couple of months ago and thinks that may be related to the shooting.”
      Yeah, that’s the ticket….

      1. ah, Islam the religion of pieces…
        “ALL SERIAL KILLERS, almost without exception, are severely sexually abused as children. The kind of people who hijack a plane with innocent people and drive it into a building with thousands of other innocent people are related to this phenomenon.
        When sociopaths rape and kill, they do not see their victims as human beings, but only as objects. This is because the sociopaths were themselves, at one time, used as objects – as their bodily integrity was repeatedly violated. The rage that results from sexual abuse is one thing, but when combined with living in a dysfunctional culture of sexual repression and misogyny, where love is reduced to violent domination, it is quite another.
        Throughout the Islamic Middle East, men and women are taught to be vehemently opposed to pleasure, especially of the sexual variety. Men are raised not only forbidden to touch women, but to even look at them. Sex before marriage is not just a sin — but a criminal offence. It is punishable by a severe beating at best, and an execution at worst.
        The sexual privileges that are allowed in Islamic cultures are permitted to men. Women’s sexuality and social independence represent major threats to male supremacy and are tightly controlled. Thus, as the Moroccan feminist Fitna Sabbah reveals in her book Woman in the Muslim Unconscious, there is a disturbing conflict in the Middle East between sexual libido and repression. A deep-seated fear of, and hostility to, individuality prevails, and its main expression exists in misogyny.
        Socially segregated from women, Arab men succumb to homosexual behavior. But, interestingly enough, there is no word for “homosexual” in their culture in the modern Western sense. That is because having sex with boys, or with effeminate men, is seen as a social norm. Males serve as available substitutes for unavailable women. The male who does the penetrating, meanwhile, is not emasculated any more than if he had sex with a wife. The male who is penetrated is emasculated. The boy, however, is not, since it is rationalized that he is not yet a man.
        In this culture, males sexually penetrating males becomes a manifestation of male power, conferring a status of hyper-masculinity. It is considered to have nothing to do with homosexuality. An unmarried man who has sex with boys is simply doing what men do. As the scholar Bruce Dunne has demonstrated, sex in Islamic societies is not about mutuality between partners, but about the adult male’s achievement of pleasure through violent domination.
        There is silence around this issue. It is the silence that legitimizes sexual violence against women, such as honor crimes and female circumcision. It is also the silence that forces victimized Arab boys into invisibility. Even though the society does not see their sexual exploitation as being humiliating, the psychological and emotional scars that result from their subordination, powerlessness and humiliation is a given. Traumatized by the violation of their dignity and manliness, they spend the rest of their lives trying to get it back.
        The problem is that trying to recover from sexual abuse, and to recapture one’s own shattered masculinity, is quite an ordeal in a culture where women are hated and love is interpreted as hegemonic control.
        With women out of touch – and out of sight — until marriage, males experience pre-marital sex only in the confines of being with other males. Their sexual outlet mostly includes victimizing younger males – just the way they were victimized.
        In all of these circumstances, the idea of love is removed from men’s understanding of sexuality. Like the essence of Arab masculinity, it is reduced to hurting others by violence. A gigantic rupture develops between men and women, where no harmony, affection or equality is allowed to exist. In relationships between men, meanwhile, affection, solidarity and empathy are left out of the picture. They threaten the hyper-masculine order.” Jamie Glazov

        1. I’ve heard stories from nearly every one of my military buddies that over there homosexuality is an accepted part of the culture and what’s worse is the men don’t even see themselves as gay as long as its only for pleasure and they marry a woman at some point and have some kids.
          Logically women of the west should rethink their stance on legalized prostitution.
          If these countries which have institutionalized forms of sexual repression are any example, look at the horrors the women of these cultures are exposed to!
          How dare any female think that a woman who chooses to monetize her best ( and probably only) asset should be called a criminal.
          This is ironic coming from the modern woman, who has now become herself a prostitute only with poor bargaining skills.
          Again I know I’m asking a herculean feat that women should look at something like their own happiness and safety rationally.
          Perhaps they will come around after enough of their homes get shot up by sexually repressed foreigners. The same foreigners women have collectively invited into their countries.

        2. ”Women’s sexuality and social independence represent major threats to male supremacy and are tightly controlled.”
          Aside from this statement I agree with the rest of your comment.
          I don’t find feminism any better in this regard.

        3. hugs my tubble WHY ARE YOU OPPRESSING ME ONLINE???!!!! how can I go on now… HOW?! I know, I’ll go eat an entire fridge. Well, at least I am not into terrorism or misogyny to deal with my feefeels. uwu

        4. I shall pray and ask the Great Mother to help you see the Path. May the Great Vagina from which we all came from be with you! You know she’s there… always and forever, shaking her finger at you. Heh.

        5. The only real law that does or should exist is natural law. Man’s law is for the weak, you of all people should recognize might is right. The only reason prostituiton is and should be “outlawed” is because it exploits and degrades MEN by cheating them out of money by allowing women to charge them for something that nature in it’s infinite wisdom decreed should be free for the taking.

        6. I will steal the essence of the Gods. And will ascend to Godhood. Then the great mother shall be made my bitch. 🙂

        7. Is that a threat? Do you think we are afraid?
          “The word rape comes from the Latin word rapere, which means “to steal, seize, or carry away.”
          The first definition of rape in The Random House Dictionary is still “the act of seizing and carrying off by force.”
          The second definition, with which you are probably familiar,
          defines rape as “the act of physically forcing a woman to have sexual intercourse.”
          For the moment, I will refer exclusively to the first definition
          of rape, that is, “the act of seizing and carrying off by force.”
          Rape precedes marriage, engagement, betrothal, and courtship as sanctioned social behavior. In the bad old days, when a man wanted a woman he simply took her—that is, he abducted and fucked her. The abduction, which was always for sexual purposes, was the rape. If the raped woman pleased the rapist, he kept her. If not, he discarded her.
          Women, in those bad old days, were chattel. That is, women were property, owned objects, to be bought, sold, used, and stolen—that is, raped. A woman belonged first to her father who was her patriarch, her master, her lord. The very derivation of the word patriarchy is instructive. Pater means owner, possessor, or master. The basic social unit of patriarchy is the family. The word family comes from the Oscan famel, which means servant, slave, or possession. Paterfamilias means owner of slaves. The rapist who abducted a woman took the place of her father as her owner, possessor, or master.

          Rape, then, is the first model for marriage. Marriage laws sanctified rape by reiterating the right of the rapist to ownership
          of the raped. Marriage laws protected the property rights of the first rapist by designating a second rapist as an adulterer, that is, a thief. Marriage laws also protected the father’s ownership of the daughter. Marriage laws guaranteed the father’s right to sell a daughter into marriage, to sell her to another man. Any early strictures against rape were strictures against robbery—against the theft of property. It is in this context, and in this context only, that we can understand rape as a capital crime.”
          so you see you are not that different from the rabid Muslim.
          Your time is nearing end.

        8. Grow up. Read Reich’s “Function of the Orgasm” to expand your potentials, and benefit women finally with your existence.

      2. So he is saying that his son was “triggered” by the sight of two men kissing?

    5. I have a feeling the left, and especially Hillary, is going to use this incident to:
      1) Double-down on gun control. Soon we will likely hear how this guy bought guns legally via an imaginary “loophole.”
      2) Shove the LGBT agenda further down our throats. The media will focus more on rampant homophobia rather than the shooter’s extremist views.
      3) Hijack the conversation to talk about how the shooter felt unwelcome in this country by the violent rhetoric of Trump and others like him.
      4) Enact more stringent security measures to expand the police state.
      5) Somehow blame this on white America, maybe by saying the recent controversy over trannies in public restrooms (aka homophobia) incited this man to violence.
      I’m going to wait and see before I make a determination, but I have a feeling Hillary and her minions are going to twist this conversation and point the finger at big bad whitey.

      1. This is exactly what I was telling my girlfriend just a little while ago. You nailed it.

        1. Just checked Facebook, and predictably, saw multiple anti-gun posts that failed to mention Islamic extremism.

        2. Of course. And get this: when I woke up this morning (a few hours ago) I checked Fagbook’s trending news stories. Guess what their top trending story STILL was: Commie Van Jones’s reaction to Trumps Mexican judge comments. It probably KILLED them to have to post the news of the attack.

        3. And what did she say in response?
          Or was she too busy playing with her phone?

        4. At the time she was lying next to me in bed. She was on her phone reading about the attack…but your point is well-taken.

        5. Van Jones? The pre-eminent (*snicker*) “Green Jobs Czar” of the first Obama administration??? How anyone takes that assclown seriously enough to solicit his opinion is beyond me.

        6. I agree entirely. The only thing that Van Dickwad has ever said that makes any sense is that he thinks Donald Trump will win in November. Not that he wants him to, however…

      2. Lol!
        “It was our fault for creating the environment that forced him to attack.”
        This does sound so shitlib.

    6. From a European perspective, we really need our guns back. Paris 2015 showed that the security forces have either no interest or no ability to protect us. Right now, the only way I’m going to feel “safe” is if I can carry my piece. It might be one more thing we add to our platform.
      A man should not be denied the means and right to protect himself and the people he loves.

    7. To be honest I always thought that these radicals and extremists were “allies”…im suprised that attack was actually intentional and not just a false flag.

    8. I’m not calling false flag until I see some credible evidence for it, but I know this much; the globalists would pit their so called allies against one another if it would benefit themselves to do so. For all the preference that certain pet groups are shown by the elites make no mistake that they hate these groups at least as much as the people they marginalize. But if the useful idiots can be prodded with flattery and financial benefits to do their dirty work for them, they’re going to sit right back and let them do it. After all they can’t have their hands stained with blood when they swoop in to save us from the problems they facillitated themselves.
      At the end of the day this isn’t going to damage the narrative one single bit. Gays are not going to turn on the Muslims because they’re too emotionally invested in hating Daddy and his culture to ever see the truth just like the Feminists of Europe, and the Islamists always did hate homosexuals and they have no intention of stopping.

  5. Why do gays and lesbians support Islam when those very same people would be executed or at the very least tossed into a prison cell in Islamic countries?

    1. I’m with you, DUDude. I’m gay, and I have no idea why gays want to align themselves with these people. I’ve never understood it, and never will.

      1. Because in the mindset of SJWs :
        discriminated against = good
        Except that sometimes discrimination is justified. You would be insane not to discriminate against people who blow themselves up to get laid with virgins in heaven.

        1. I have to agree. I hope everyone knows all gays are not, and never will be for Islam. Never.

        2. SJW got in arms when Mr Gay France sided with Front National and said muslims are barbarians.

        3. The Front National is a big gay H.Q now, with more and more Freemasons and jews… It has long been infiltrated.
          It’s just the next stage of Leftism I anticipated in my comment above : feminism, gay pride vs “religious fanaticism and intolerance”.

        4. All right wing civic populist movements a la UKIP or Front National are bound to bring center gays and women. Similar to Donald.
          That is the nature of populist movements.
          The only alternative would be hardcore NatSoc organizations like Golden Dawn in Greece. But people aren’t ready for that yet, unfortunately.

        5. The only right wing groups doing the smart thing are the ones that we can’t see ; the ones – if there’re any – that are staying off the radar.
          Like a reverse Freemasonry, Bilderberg or B’nai B’rith.

        6. I’m not sure there are such influential groups right now.
          Most shadow groups support currently support the globalist agenda as a way to weaken the West.
          If any pro-West shadow group exists it’s not having much of an impact right now.

        7. If there aren’t it is up to the right wing youth to create one one day. Maybe Russians Oligarchs could give money to such groups, especially if they’re pro-Russian.
          That type of networking is how, historically, the left always has been one step ahead of its traditional enemies.

        8. The game “Hotline Miami” deals with this topic.
          A right wing shadow organization called “50 Blessings” is calling people and blackmailing them to commit crimes against the Russian Mafia. The Russians by the way ended winning the Cold War once it got hot and thus took control over the US with a puppet state.
          This eventually leads to destabilization of Russia – US relations and Nuclear war.

          And by the way, you should definetely play the first one. It is fantastic. It is rare I recommend a video game. But this one is groundbreaking. The style and storytelling are amazing and the gameplay is simple and fun.

  6. Why is it such a surprise that these events are occurring? You’ve two groups here that are completely opposed to each others fundamental values. Most observant Muslims will privately tell you that they find homosexuals repellent and in many Muslim countries they are executed…and still we think that when Muslims live in the west that they’ll somehow be converted to accepting LGBT lifestyles. I think we’re very naive if we believe this will be the case.

    1. It’s Leftists who believe it. Not us. That’s semantics, though, and you’re right. It’s logically impossible to be both pro-gay and pro-Islam. Only retards figure otherwise.

      1. It’s very clear what Islam’s agenda is for gays. Even publicly they won’t extend the olive branch of even the most right wing Christan preacher who’ll “love the sinner, but hate the sin”. Islam just doesn’t tolerate gays at all, so I can’t see how they’ll ever be any accommodation between these two sets of values, until, Muslims are told that first and foremost they have to abide by the secular values in our nations, but, I can’t see them doing this.

        1. “Islam just doesn’t tolerate gays at all”
          Sodomy has actually played a bigger role in Islamic history and society than in Western, due to lack of women because of polygamy, but it has to be done in an Islamic way, with “dancing boys,” etc.

        2. Despite the macho exterior with many Muslim and Arab men, the way they emotionally over react to the world in an almost near hysterical manner when they’re insulted is very feminine. Also, many Muslim men often have a very narcissistic manner to the way look which is similar to gay mens preoccupation with this fixation.

        3. Not sure where the notion that the entire Middle East had institutional ass marauding like the Spartans did…
          Your observation that Arab men react wildly to insults is true. They see it as a loss of face/honor, and that is not desirable to them.

  7. There’s going to be major fall-out after this. Probably much more that with the Charleston shooting. Gay people are one of the main protected groups, and an attack against a protected group as such is going to invoke protective action, almost certainly aimed beyond the perpetrator group, which predictably appears to be islamic terror. Gay men in particular are already often quite paranoid: I’ve lost count of the time I’ve read comments by gay men who were convinced that every hetero would prefer they didn’t exist (which is very rarely true). It will be interesting to see what conclusions are drawn here by gay and liberal voices in the wider media. I imagine it won’t be a logical one. It will probably be spun to include a condemnation of anything slightly critical of ‘alternative sexualities’ i.e. to invoke the fake ‘tolerance and reconciliation’ agenda that the elite are pushing.
    This is a major atrocity, and we should make it a point to underline the fact that we see it as such. Unlike the liberal media ROK has a great record in condemning islamic terrorism and violence generally.

    1. Wrong sadly.
      Muslims rank higher on the leftist victimhood hierarchy than homos do. Leftists will sacrifice women, children and queers at the alter of Islam.

        1. “The elite leftists might be willing to sacrifice the gays but what about the rank and file?”
          They’ll be told to convert. The Left has been pushing Islamic conversion for decades, mandatory Islamic prayer in history classes, visits to mosques, etc.

      1. I’m not sure about that- I think women, Jews and gays have to think critically about how Islam will literally put them on the refuse pile if it ever becomes a predominant force in western societies. People are not stupid and they’ll say of there’s any more of this “enough is enough” you either demonstrate the peacefulness of your religion or you can emigrate to a Muslim nation where you can practice your backward beliefs.

      2. I don’t really agree with that. I think Islam is more useful more than affirmed. Ideologically it is indulged as an exploited oriental ‘other’ (c.f. Edward Said) that with gays and women suffered under white imperialist / patriarchy (or whatever). But ideologically, gays and feminists are central to the leftist programme where islamic patriarchy stands against it

      3. “Leftists will sacrifice women, children and queers at the alter of Islam.”
        Let’s see…
        Mass sexual assaults in Cologne (check)
        Mass sexual abuse of children in Rotherham (double check)
        Mass killings of gays in Orlando (quadruple check)

      4. I will have to respectfully disagree. The purpose of the left is to destroy the west, I think that is rather self evident. I think the left uses Islam to achieve its goal of balkinization and anti-theism, but I don’t see the leftist elites wanting to live in a Muslim majority country at the end of the day. I do see them wishing to live in a sexual dysphoria however.

    2. Maybe it’s the start of the leftist version of the clash of civilisation I always feared, the one the neo-cons started to push : feminism, gay pride vs “religious fanaticism and intolerance”.

      1. The left as a whole can be enormously dumb, but the elites generally aren’t stupid. If you put a mouse into a cage that’s home to a boa constrictor, and the pet owner in question then expresses horror and surprise you might be forgiven for being a little bit suspicious. Tolerance needs intolerance to move it’s agenda forward. Gays and muslims appear in the leftist schema as aligned against straight (white) male power , but I doubt many thought this could ever be anything other than a theoretical alliance

    3. In the biggest lgbt facebook page there is absolutely no mention of this event, complete silence.

    4. LGBT vs Islamists.
      Its a bit like Iran vs Iraq. Pity only one side can lose.

    5. Hey I wish they wouldn’t exist, ok. Not that rare of an opinion I wager….

    6. Just be careful of falling into the media trap. It’s far too early for anyone to know the religious affiliation, if any, of the perpetrator. He has brown skin and his name is Omar. That is enough for 99.9999999999% of the population to close the case. I’m not saying there’s anything more than meets the eye here, and I don’t think there is. I’m merely pointing out how EASY it is for governments to foment false flag operations. We should not be so complacent and accepting of media and government talking points.
      If a guy has brown skin and they tell the media his name was Omar, is there ANYONE in the media that would even investigate this further to see if any of it was true? Look at how they handled the Rape Meetups. I’m merely saying how easy it is to completely con the entire nation if one wanted to, with a complete lie.

        1. CNN is saying 50 dead, more than double what originally thought. Wow.
          I won’t be surprised if he is Afghani, and did this because he hates gays. I’m just pointing out how in the heat of the moment people emotionally believe whatever a tv tells them, after which one needs strong evidence to disprove said rumor. I bet 95% of Americans still believe the passport which survived the twin towers crash and belongs to a man who is alive and well today, was a legit identity card of one of the hijackers.

      1. Media manipulation is very real. I have no doubt that government / the MSM are capable of false flags, but I would err on the side of of caution in the other direction as well. If you watch youtube videos on terror attacks, there’s almost a knee-jerk assumption that they are false flags. I agree absolutely about not jumping to conclusions. I think it’s perfectly reasonable to assume that whatever happens, whether its 100% bona fide terror or not, the issue will be spun to push an agenda. I think there’s an occam’s razor principle: it’s surely a hell of a lot easier to spin the meaning of an atrocity, than to set up a fake one.
        Right now if it’s a false flag, I imagine Omar, if that’s his name, will be shown to be a disgruntled Trump supporter or something.

        1. Actually someone above posted his picture, and commented how it looked gay. If so, then we as straight white males are the root cause of this killing because we made Omar feel so uncomfortable by not accepting his beliefs and his sexuality and we must further integrate the homosexual agenda into our lives, our schools, our workplaces, and our houses of worship.
          The public is just so fucking dumb. You know some trollers made a fake movement of how to show your support for fighting rape culture by peeing in your pants, and feminists did it.
          http://www.dailyedge.ie/4chan-prank-piss-for-equality-2370529-Oct2015/
          I’m fully convinced one could start a movement to draw a sharpy penis on your forehead in support of Orlando, and people would do it, and post it all over social media.

        2. I’m mixed race actually, but the point holds nonetheless: right now there are dead 50 lgbt and I have no doubt this will be sold as as the logic of ‘intolerance’ rather than the results of some wacko (islamic terrorist or otherwise).
          feminist pissing for equality was fantastic. They’re probably still doing it, although it seems they’re denying that they fell for it on that page.

      2. “I’m merely saying how easy it is to completely con the entire nation if one wanted to, with a complete lie.”
        Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. There was no grassy knoll. There were no Cuban anti-Kennedy dissidents. The CIA was not involved and did not arrange anything. You MUST believe this.

        1. When the authorities have more info about the patsy than they do about basic details of the crime (like when foreign newspapers had already started printing profiles of L.H.O before he was identified as a suspect), it’s highly suspicious. When you haven’t even counted the bodies yet (are reporting 20 dead when in fact it’s well over double that much) but have supposedly researched the guy who did this (examining his body would be a last priority after taking care of wounded and survivors and doing a body county first) it really stinks to high heaven.

    7. I think the fall out will probably just be for more gun control. The narrative never changes.

    8. This will be quickly swept under the rug and ignored. There will be a little kumbaya for a week or so, maybe a rainbow flag icon for everyone’s Facebook accounts just like after Paris. And then the Cathedral will quickly pivot back to the latest clutched-pearls outrage over some offense Trump has given.

      1. I’m not so sure. It’s the worse gun massacre in US history. He also pledged allegiance to ISIS apparently so it can be treated as either or both domestic or international terrorism. They can also push gun control and the anti extremism narrative

        1. Actually, Waco (70 dead) and Wounded Knee (250-300) had more…

    9. They are “protected group” because homosexuality as a “lifestyle” is a social means of sterilizing part of the population who both self-sterilize and also provide work units until they die.
      I.e. no one at the top actually gives a shit.
      The male homosexual community is mostly composed of emotionally damaged men and thus the most easily exploited.
      So long as the bastards at the top can continue to manipulate the male homosexuals, there will be no change, and you will continue to see homosexuals promoting Islam.

    10. I don’t know…I’ve seen to many examples of them doubling down in the past on these issues. It’s happening in Europe with rape victims.
      It’s hard to imagine the stupidity of people. Sometimes the stupid ones need to go….thin out the herd. I’ll keep my “back up” handy in the event that things go south. Train your family members to use firearms as well…you may need help.

  8. If gay people are dumb enough to support islam, a religion which calls for their death just for existing, then they’re too stupid to live.
    No sympathy from me. If you want sympathy look in the dictionary between “shit” and “syphilis”.

    1. Not just gays, but some of the people in the West who welcomes Islam with open arms (borders).

  9. It had to happen.
    Various incompatible factions on the left finally jumping at each other’s throat.
    Muslims, gays, blacks, latinos, women. How were they supposed to be on the same side anyway ?
    The only thing that held them toghether was the hatred of straight white males. But that can only keep them from infighting for a while.
    Now it will be fun to see negroes, muslims, jews, women and queers fighting each other over who is the biggest victim.
    Grab your popcorn boys.
    http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2015/06/Putin%20Popcorn_1.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/UDuiRVy.gif
    http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/898/402/48d.gif

    1. The funny thing about the left’s loosely allied coalition is only the majority white groups have their head in the sand. Blacks, Muslims, and Hispanics only care about their own and these groups are very aware that they are not really allies. Once they have no use for the dumb white women, gays, liberal men, etc. they will turn on them in a heartbeat. Not to mention fighting amongst themselves.

  10. I didn’t expect the Marxist/Islamic breakup to begin so soon. No doubt we’ll be treated to solidarity marches before the week is out.

  11. I wouldn’t be so confident this will shatter the Left, men. Likely, H. Clinton will be up in the morning ignoring the fact it was a Muslim and using this as an example of why the US needs more gun restrictions. 🔫
    Faced with a choice between accepting reality and ignoring it entirely in favor of an easier to swallow fairy-tale, feminists and the like will do what they always do…

  12. Islamophobia – a word created by fascists, used by cowards, to manipulate morons.

  13. I wonder if this was a false flag. It certainly promotes Obamas gun control and gay rights efforts.

  14. As I keep pointing out, “social justice” can never happen because society’s misfits, losers, incompetents, kooks, scolds, utopians, etc., have conflicting grievances.
    And if we keep our borders open to the world’s diversity trash, we’ll just see more poverty, strife, distrust, crime and general social breakdown.

  15. Islam is a religion of peace, Islam has nothing to do with it …..(Sarcasm …)
    MSM nonsense will begin soon …..

    1. It’s only a matter of time before they will bring out the good old “islamophobia” card again. And trust me, it won’t take long.

  16. Can anyone explain to me what this Newspeak sentence means?
    “An FBI spokesman said the mass shooting is being investigated as an act of terrorism, adding that they are looking into whether this was an act of domestic or international terror”

    1. They are trying to find out wether the guy visited extremist websites abroad or if he just hated gays for his own sake lol..,

    2. They are trying to find a Confederate flag at the scene so they can point the perpetrators as Bo and Luke Duke.

  17. The government is always hesitant to reach conclusions if the perpetrator is Muslim. Since he attacked an “aggrieved group” how will they respond?

    1. The shooter was MALE and he used GUNS.
      Ban guns. Send straight male to re-education camps.

  18. Islam is the new plague. The new black death making it’s way through the western world.

  19. In other news, coal was found to be black, and contain carbon.
    I doubt any of this is surprising for any thinking person here…
    This has been a long time coming, lol, and now the little feel good SJWs get a taste of who the fuck they have been protecting and how grateful the muzzies are for the LGBTRXZY support they got.

  20. This was kind of event was the easiest thing in the world to predict. Gays encouraged to flaunt their pride along with open borders to the Islamic world. When they had gay pride events in my city, I didn’t want to go anywhere near it because I knew something like this was likely to happen. I supposed they’ll cancel this years events coming up this month.
    The gay community is so suicidal, they’ll still support Hillary’s and Merkel’s open borders and hate Trump.

  21. diversity + proximity = conflict. Yet the push for diversity continues unabated.Why??

  22. Don’t expect libs to learn from this since they scream ‘islamophbia’ as much as they do ‘homophobia’ just expect them to blame guns and good people.

  23. Here, have a read to sort of pull the discussion all together:
    There Is No Exception in Islam
    http://www.unz.com/gnxp/there-is-no-exception-in-islam/
    Heavy read, bit of a slog, but you won’t be wasting your time. 5,900 words plus the comments. It will help you all understand a bit better what in hell is going on, help everybody avoid inadvertently speaking out of their ass.
    Confess that is gave me a headache. Oh, and open your Google window because you’re going to have to research more than a few theological terms.
    Hope this helps.
    Just a thought.
    VicB3

    1. Thanks but not really interested that much.
      People speaking out of their ass is hardly an issue unless they defend the goatfucking paedophile muzzies that is.

    1. Expect him to come crawling out of the woodwork soon to double down on the gun control agenda.

      1. Bernie already started off in gun control. 25 years ago, blah blah blah… Guess he forgot the Colombians and Jamaicans dropping bodies in the streets.

  24. Hey, it’s the 2 groups that SJWs love the most! How’s it working out?

  25. On the one hand, some will say, this is Islam. On the other hand, some will say, this is Florida.

    1. 50??? Please tell me how many gays were murderer in these past…i dont know, 50 years, by christian western men.

      1. Makes me infuriated we spent 1000 years keeping these barbarian dregs out of the West and now SJWs are gleefully bending over and taking Islam up the ass.

        1. Its like the bad boy thing is it not? The more you hit me, the more i like you… Marxist scum.

        2. Bertrand Russel compared Islam to Communism, because the two ideologies were obsessed with the “empire of the World”. Its no big deal why lefties are so islamophiliacs. They recognise the inherent goal of state control over personal freedoms and liberties. Mark my words brother: to destroy one, we have to win over the other.

        3. There is no proof Vlad was beheaded.
          That’s what Turks tell themselves to sleep better at night.

        4. Actually there is. With Wallachian witnesses present and burying the headless cadaver…))
          Constantin Rezachevici, Unde a fost mormântul lui Vlad Tepes? (II), Magazin Istoric, nr.3, 2002, p.41)

        5. Well. He scared them shitless and got an incredible Kill / Death ratio. The fact he got headshoted in the end does not make it less impressive.

  26. There’s nothing to be concerned about here.
    The liberal’s pets will ..all..turn on each other eventually. So many of them have conflicts of interest.

  27. Am i the only one not surprised by this slaughter??? This is only the beggining, as more muslim migrants come to the West from third world shit holes. These degenerate marxists are going to taste, painfully, their suicidal policies.
    Im not american, but its not going to take long for the islamophobia and gun control shit to be used to silence this massacre. Trump will be the only one telling it like it is…

  28. The article’s header should be modified, confirmed death toll is over 50.

  29. What has been happening in Europe such as Brussels and Paris has now come here, my advice people is arm yourselves and stay away from things like gun free zones.

    1. Yes, not the religion of love like Christianity. That speaks volumes, doesn’t it.

    1. But, 50 people gunned down is a serious massacre by anyones standards. I hope people don’t respond with silly hash tags in rainbow colors as this just reduces that whole tragedy to a glib slogan without addressing the fundamental questions around the multicultural agenda.
      Anyone who celebrates the shooting dead of folks simply for displaying their right to freely associate, straight, gay or whatever are degenerate tossers who are as bad as the ones who pull the trigger. Yes, I’m sure there would have been gays and feminists celebrating shootings at the meet-ups just as I’m sure there are some people who think these nuts are somehow lancing a boil.

      1. More were killed at Wounded Knee-250 or even 300 Native Americans.

    2. Not gay people like Milo. Actually, there are a lot of gays of a libertarian/conservative political bent. I don’t think gay men like seeing feminism turn women into fat, nasty slobs with no fashion sense either.
      What the SJWs successfully do is hijack groups. They call black conservatives Uncle Toms, Latino Trump supporters and traitors to their race. SJWs want everyone to think gays are 100% supportive of the feminist/progressive agenda, otherwise they are not a real gay person.

      1. they are still dong gobblers and as such doing no one any favors. The fact that these fags are bitchy to their own is in no way a sign that they are decent people….Remember, fags need to be treated like women. You can’t take their feelings, thoughts or convictions at any given moment seriously because they will change with whatever the prevailing wind is….the prevailing wind being the wind that escapes soundlessly from their assholes once all elasticity has been destroyed.

        1. LOL the ultimate destiny of the faggot’s escapades…..a prolapsed anus and uncontrollable shitting.
          What is the most useless and disgusting human being?
          An old faggot.
          A child molester is TEN to TWENTY times more likely to be a homosexual.
          Fuck any piece of shit that defends them.

      2. The only thing special about Milo is that because he’s gay he was immune to the attacks of the 3rd wave feminists. As such he allowed a toe-hold for other critics of feminism. What moral high ground he gained with his engagement with feminists he loses with his degenerate behavior.

    3. Don’t worry roosh. When faggots and SJWs would cheer at your death you know you are doing something right.

    4. In a way, they have themselves to blame. The LGBT community votes for people who hate concealed carry and the 2nd Amendment, while advocating for mass immigration and no borders.
      Massive influx of welfare colonists from the 3rd world + defenseless population = an inevitable massacre.

    5. Preach. The truth is hurtful and hateful to those who fear it.

    6. This move is similar to what’s going on in Europe (Germany, France, Sweden, Belgium) where they are welcoming these “migrants” with open arms. These migrants have increased overall crime, rape and deaths in these countries.
      I guess they’ll need more “examples” before they are convinced. Many of these illegals coming over are not here to start a new life. They are here to cause problems…and this shooting (again) is an example of it.

    7. Although this may be true, it may not be wise to say unless you want more media attention…oh, wait, never mind…Trump does this all the time and plays the media masterfully…Good luck!

  30. The fags have done Islam a huge favour by doing everything in their power to suppress Christianity and Judaism, because both faiths condemned faggotry as an abomination. Islam got a pass because so many fags got hard for macho Arab and African cock and Muslims hated Jews as much as fags did.
    Serves the fags right for expecting Muslims to be grateful.
    As for us straight men, we can now sleep better knowing there are 50 cocksuckers no longer at large, and no longer able to recruit our sons for faggotry. If the Orlando incident convinces more of the ambivalent to vote for Donald Trump, much good may yet come of this. For now, rest assured nothing of value was lost.

    1. In fact, it will cause many gays to vote for Trump as Hillary is painfully “conflicted” on this whole issue.

      1. I don’t think so. The fags didn’t realize Hitler had been using them until they found themselves in labour camps.

        1. Oy vey, Hitler persecuted homosexuals, trust me goy !
          Stop spreading WW2 Ally propaganda .
          https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t893283/
          Hitler and the Nazis did imprison Homosexuals under Paragraph 175 which dated back to Bismark in 1875. This was already settled German law. During Weimar Germany the government would not enforce it’s own laws on deviant behavior.
          Hitler did not do anything radical to homosexuals. Not by the standards of the day.
          Similar anti-sodomite law was in other places such as the Soviet Union by the way. The way English treated Alan Turing and the way Americans looked at homos should tell you Nazis were not any more anti-gay than any other group at the time.
          And it’s not like he was supported by homos to “betray” them.

        2. Sure mate.
          Did he also have one testicle, was quarter-jew and persecuted jews because he was rejected by a jewish girl in highschool ?

        3. He had hypospadia, actually. 🙂 Not the best looking thing to boast around with in sauna… :))

      1. He’s probably a Hillary troll posing as a pro-Trump bigot in order to make Trump supporters look bad.

        1. You can be as “bad” as you want.
          If Hillary wanted to frame Donald Trump supporters she would find a way to do it anyway, worry not.
          You can call for a genocide and it won’t make a difference.

  31. I cant help but think that if the world’s largest traditional reserves of oil were located, say in Amish country, we wouldnt be having these problems here…

    1. If there was big money in their land, the Amish would have all been dead or moved to a reservation already. That is a big part of the anger in the Islamic world, all the money from oil enriches the pockets of big business, corrupt leaders(political and religious). Little of it benefits the poor in countries like Afghanistan.

      1. The big businesses lobby their own government force the other government leaders to ban guns and other weapons from the locals so they won’t revolt.

      2. would the Amish seek revenge by doing these types of things? Didnt think so.

  32. The milk of human empathy runs thick here, I see….how delightful…)))So: Caedite eos? Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius? ;)))))

  33. Yeah, it’s a shame, but really who fucking cares? These are the same people who march in the streets wailing about islamophobia, defending Islam when Islamists are throwing queers off roofs and setting them on fire because they smoke dick. Maybe this will be a wake up call for U.S. faggots that Muslims are NOT their friends.

  34. Islam is destined to overtake the west. It breeds more, destroys elements of society that hinder that and puts constraints on women. Technology means nothing in the face of nature. It doesn’t matter if we hate them.

    1. Only if we let them. For all the numbers the Muslims have on their side they still can’t produce a single fighter jet or even sustainably grow food in many cases.

        1. Perhaps, but that is not really my point. The Muslim world is so far behind the west it is laughable, the only way they can beat us is when we invite them come inside our countries out breed us and takeover, like a virus does to a host cell. There will be no return of the ottoman empire threatening to overrun Vienna again.

      1. And that won’t matter. We’ll be too dead to chastise them when they fall apart due to starvation and other factors. It’s the ‘we’ part that is the problem; white people are too divided to band together. In fact, many will fight against us in the ultimate display of suicidal virtue signalling.

    2. ..and they are more violent, vicious and don’t have a conscience….tough enemy.

      1. If white people would band together, I don’t think they would stand a chance… but that is going to be very difficult with the incentives modern women are providing them (be weak and supplicating).

      2. When they exhaust the white man’s patience and benevolence the roads will become oceans of blood and gore; pound for pound we are the absolute masters of genocide and could exterminate them without blinking an eye soon enough. We need another Charles Martel and Richard I Coeur de Lion. Also, Saxon kick ass.

        1. The crusades were nothing more nothing less, than a counter jihad, a defensive war against the muslim onslaught against Europe. It seems we have to do it again, in order to preserve everything our ancestors fought for.

        2. Precisely. I love lecturing all the useful idiots about history and how the Crusades were launched some 460 years after the initial Islamic incursions against Constantinople and to protect pilgrims heading to Jerusalem. I leave them scratching their sloping foreheads in confusion.

        3. Spot on. I hate the fact the crusades are always used as a “argument” to say all religions are the same. As a Christian, i dont have to be a master theologian to see that Christianity and Islam are worlds apart on almost everything.
          There is nothing remotely similar to jihad for instance, in the Old and New Testament. Saint Augustine was reflecting about the concept of just war, of when and why Christians should take arms , in the V century and that is pretty much it. I do not know of any debate of holy war notion prior to the crusades in the Christian world, and, i dont have to be to clever to see islamic jihadism, influencing christian medieval thinkers.
          Our ancestors had to fight back, end of story.

        4. Indeed-I cut people right off when they start that idiotic line of argument about the Crusades being bad and all that stupidity.

      3. Saxon! Among the most talented yet obscure bands of the New Wave of British Heavy Metal from the early 1980’s.
        Sorry, off-topic, I know. But I wanted to give credit where it’s due…

      4. Metal, Heavy Metal, Punk, all started far right wing. I hate the fucking Left.

  35. Has the West apologized to Islam yet? That usually happens in under 24 hours, despite blood still oozing out of the wounded non-Muslims.

    1. Indeed. Remember everyone…it’s the religion of peace.
      How many people have died from this peace, again? Yeah, I don’t think so…I’ll keep an eye out.

  36. As sick as it sounds, I can find some solace in the fact that each terrorist attack in the West redpills more peope. I mean, all these dumbfucks had to do was keep immigrating and keep breeding to eventually topple us. But they don’t have the patience for a slow conquest.

      1. The four stages of conquest doesn’t work if people like us are onto them.
        And if we have our weapons handy to protect ourselves.

  37. In other news, eleven German MPs of Turkish origin have been assigned protection following a statement by the parliament recognizing the Armenian Genocide.

  38. some arab shoots a bunch of homos in a fag club. Ok I have questions
    1) How did he kill 20 people. Were they all buttfucking each other human centipede style so one bullet can go through all of them?
    2) How did he get the weapons in. I assumed the fruits made everyone submit to a cavity search as part of the admission. You know, like how some clubs give you one free drink they stick their fist up your ass so how did he sneak guns in?
    3) I am still waiting for someone to explain how this is the fault of straight white males because, obvi, it is.

      1. If you knew the bs I dealt with this weekend from some psycho bitch you would laugh your ass off.

        1. It was a bat shit crazy thing that happened. I will explain at some point. let’s just say I very narrowly dodged a crazy bullet first degree crazy.

        1. I don’t know but it has the most punchable face I’ve ever seen.

        2. And eminently kickable also-I’m thinking crescent kick followed by a jumping, spinning Savate kick.

      1. Are you shitting me? I could lock in a 100 round coffin mag into an AR and clean a room in about 30 seconds.

  39. The Anglo American elites are indeed supporting both Islam and progressive liberalism in their war against traditionalism. And they can’t be trusted. When a so-called ISIS attack in the west garners enough outrage so as to warrant a reprisal it can’t be ruled out that a major attack – even a nuclear one- against the middle east will be the result. Maybe that’s their aim?

    1. This is what it takes for these liberal nuts to figure out that Islam is a death religion and they are on the menu.They are messing with crazies that want their heads cut off. Even with this; they don’t seem to have it in themselves to realize that they are targets.. it isn’t the right.

    1. I agree that Islam isn’t a religion of peace but only because it’s not a religion. PJW makes a strawman saying that Islam needs to be “reformed” as a religion in order for violence to stop. Whatever this means, it won’t have any impact whatsoever because Islam is not a religion.
      And yeah, Islam snarfed the punishment for sodomites from the Bible. I think it’s interesting that as the West increasingly ignores God’s Law that Moses brought forth they become increasingly “tolerant” of crimes such as pedophilia, adultery and sodomy. Capital punishment is ordained by Lev 20:13(and in the New Testament in Romans 1:31).
      Does PJW play the violin for the homos only because he can’t stand Islam?

      1. Islam is the religion.
        Islamism is the implementation of Islam as the basis of social order. It is a totalitarian political, economic, social system that seeks to consume everything in it’s pathway.
        It is so entrenched in the DNA of the arab world (yes I know about Albanians and South East asians) that there is no way to defeat it but by total war with the arab world.
        This planet is too small for both of us. Only one will prevail in the end. The crusades were not a one-time event by any means.
        We are just in a temporary stalemate. Things are bound to get heavy soon.

        1. The sooner people understand that islam is a political, social and economic system disguised as a religion the better.
          The first islamic state was the one created in Medina by Muhammad and we just have to see how it worked out. The so called “prophet” turned that society in a living hell for non muslims. The jews were wiped out, christians had to pay the jizya or convert, he became a violent war lord, no different from any one else in that time and space, attacking caravans, plundering, making slaves and killing innocent people. He issued ultimatums to non muslim tribes. He imposed censorship and had “revelations” that made him a virtual king of a state that had control over every small detail of Medina.
          No wonder muslims grew in number. People have to realize, than when Muhammad died, the entire Arabian peninsula was under muslim control. Jihad a spiritual war my ass!

      1. Yeah I think so, but my internet connection is bad atm, don’t know if it hat something to do with it.

        1. I wanted to comment on it to say that Al Baghdadi put 5$ on gays, and someone in Pakistan will be cashing in… But it said it was removed by an administrator or moderator lol..

    2. This man would drink for free if I was in a 10 mile radius.

  40. I wonder if facebook will have a stupid rainbow thing for people’s profile pictures with the “I’m helping caption”? Like they do for everything.
    Because nothing screams hardship or initiative than posting something on your profile.

    1. Lefties love to virtue signal. It’s mental masturbation.
      But they sure as hell don’t want to do anything that actually works. Like stopping muslims from immigrating to US. That would be ‘ waycis ‘ .

      1. This is basically alien v predator as far as identity politics goes.
        Best for us to sit back and watch the decline.

        1. “I will keel yoo for trying to keep out Mooslimes who want to keel you!”
          Mudslime logic, folks.

  41. Didn’t El Chapo put a contract of $100 Million Dollar on Trumps Head?

  42. Another big problem the SJWs created was the national guilt over the Japanese internment in WWII. There were Japanese spies at Perl Harbor. Many Japanese would have spied for Japan had they attacked the west coast. But to SJWs, their interment is the equivalent of the holocaust and pure white racism. This is why our progressive president can never intern all the known ISIS supporters until our war with ISIS is over. Hopefully Trump will change that.

      1. If they were all innocent I wouldn’t have married one 😉
        Every good wife has a bit of mass murder in her genetics.

  43. Eye witnesses to the shooting were unable to comment due to a mix of shock and dicks in their mouths

    1. How can you be so…….insensitive?
      HATE SPEECH! OFF WITH HIS HEAD!
      Now that you said that they will be sharpening their pitchforks and lighting the rainbow colored torches.

  44. No sympathy. This is the best thing to happen in years. They all deserved what happened.

      1. You mean pacifism is for cocksmoking Knights of the brown circle?
        I’m partial to pussies… Warm cozy place to park your meat you know…

  45. Usually the debate in the gay community is about who is pitching and who is catching. I guess this time they were all catching….

  46. SJW logic: More people die from falls or car accidents per year than from terrorism in the US! This is just an isolated incident and most Muslims are peace loving people! Never mind the fact the Islam hates — no despises — gays. However, Christianity is still an evil, sexist, misogynistic, and bigoted religion that needs to be dismantled!

    1. More people slip and crack their head in the shower than die from terrorism. More people die from choking on their dinner. More people die from bicycle accidents… Etc etc etc.

        1. Doesn’t really change the cost effectiveness of combatting terror VS combatting hard edges on bathtubs…
          To me this stuff is all quite simple, kick the motherfucking muzzies out and the problem is solved. Bombing them in whatever area of the worlds sandbox they live in doesn’t change shit, they breed like insects.

  47. I can hear the upcoming speech already, let me be clear, blah blah blah, gays are wonderful, blah blah blah , religion of peace, blah,blah,blah, GUN CONTROL!

      1. Yep, ammunition, handguns and semi auto rifles will be in short supply before the week is over. I haven’t bought .22 ammo in years because I refuse to pay the inflated prices. I miss the good old days of shooting up a brick or two of .22 over a weekend just to be shooting.

  48. Am I surprised? No. Is this horrific? Yes. Did they deserve it? Every last one of them #thetruthhurts

  49. I hope the csi people get double hazard pay, they have a lot of crap to go through, in more ways than one.
    Have to give the ragheads credit, they are way better at this senseless killing stuff than we Americans . Dude got 50 in one go, our guys usually only get a handful. American mass shooters need to step their game up, looks like we are falling behind at that too.
    Though gays do make easy targets, since its kind of hard to dodge bullets when you got your dick stuck up another mans ass. He’s try to go this way and you trying to go that way but neither making any progress.

  50. I guess gays don’t carry as a general rule? That’s unfortunate. I don’t agree with their lifestyle choices or their politics (with the exception of that Milo dude at Breitbart), but no one deserves that.
    Anyway, great job liberals! Keep pushing that religion of peace narrative and disarming the populace, lol.

        1. Despite having never handled firearms, they are the first to spout off on camera their “expertise” about how the shooter used an “assault rifle” “automatic” or “machine gun” or some other nonsense.

  51. Totally unrelated but, Sebastian Gorka on Fox News would make a most excellent antagonist bent on world domination on a James Bond or similar movie.

  52. Radical does not apply to Islam, when Jihad is allowed by the Quran. Be it terrorism, jihad litigation or donating to Jihad groups.
    This is Islam there is no way to get around that simple fact.

    1. There is no other kind than radical Islam.
      Any muppet claiming otherwise can go fuck himself and needs to have a Quran slapped about his head and shoved up his arse.
      There is never going to be any sensible dialogue of any kind between Muslims and non Muslims, it’s been war for more than a thousand years now, in one way or another.
      Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it.

    2. Absolutely right. There is no such as thing as a ‘moderate’ Muslim; the only ones that are the kind who want the radical to kill you. Beyond that the ‘religion’ in and of itself is radical, no ifs or buts.

  53. Leftists on social media are on damage control. They’re already hijacking the conversation to discuss gun control. And rather than discussing this shooter’s extremist views, they’re pushing the “love everyone” mantra. Plus they’re attacking conservatives for discussing the shooter’s extremist views and Islamic heritage, saying things like, “can’t we just mourn for the dead?” They don’t want to discuss the shooter’s race or religion. I guarantee if the shooter was a white guy who shot up an all black club, race would be the central focus (just look at the Charleston shooting).
    Sorry lefties, but many on the right have grown calloused (as Roosh said below). I for one see incidents like this and feel nothing. The only reason I show them any attention is due to the left’s insistence on using such tragedies to take away my rights. So no, I’m not going to mourn for fifty dead gay men. I, and many like me, are going to use this to point out your hypocrisy and idiocy. Fuck off with trying to gain sympathy, because there is none.

    1. Hear, hear. Whatever sympathy I have is spent-this is another egregious example of the doublespeak coming out of the squeal holes or sphincters of the leftist imbeciles who are more concerned about bakeries who refuse to bake them wedding cakes than facing up to a military political ideology that wants gays murdered for the fact they have sex with men.

      1. That’s about the bakery in Belfast. I heard they’re contesting the judgment. Why couldn’t they just go to another bakery?
        ” facing up to a military political ideology that wants gays murdered for the fact they have sex with men” I don’t understand this?

        1. I mean to say the Leftists and their useful idiot ilk have their priorities screwed up. They’re getting into fights with bakeries that refuse to serve them rather than looking at how Islam and Islamists want them murdered for being sodomites. It is analogous to their tantrum over Russia and the Winter Olympics when Putin passed a law banning indoctrination of children in schools while they stay silent over murders of gays in Saudi Arabia, Iran and the rest of the Muslim world.

        2. That’s because facing up to Muslim extremism takes guts and courage, hell, they might even attack your clubs and bars. The difference with criticizing Russian policy on homosexuality is that it’s very safe and comfortable as Russia is not going to attack and shoot gay people in clubs in Florida if you attack their policy.. Well, it just shows you that silence and turning a blind eye by gays and feminists to their real enemies cuts no ice with the Muslim world. They’ll always see LGBT in the same way as Hitler saw the Jews, but, why the left don’t shout this out is like the misguided way that Jews in Germany during the 1930s though that Hilter wasn’t being serious about his plans for them.

        3. The cognitive dissonance is incredible-the Leftists being stupid morons attack the wrong enemies and instead of decrying Islam for hating gays they instead spit their venom at the structures that give them such a charmed life in order to spout such asinine bullshit.

    2. I’ve also seen a lot of equivalencies drawn between Christianity and Islam:
      “Christians won’t let gays marry, and Muslims won’t let gays marry and will also try to hang them. Religion is bad!”
      “A Christian guy once killed a couple gays, and a Muslim just killed and injured over 100. Religion is bad!”

      1. I’ve seen a lot of the same. Even one guy who said, “ISIS is not Islam just like the KKK is not Christianity.” The mental gymnastics are insane.

    3. This move will be the downfall of many on the left. I avoid a grizzly bear because I know it’s a dangerous animal….you could be killed. Leftists will double down and give these groups more chances…and in the end it will kill them.
      There is nothing wrong with identifying the problem (and the problem with all of these shootings is that Muslims (Islam) is involved.
      I don’t mind being a “racist” or “Islamophobist”…it saves time and lives.

  54. The b.s. is already getting deep I saw Dr. Marc Siegel “Fox News Medical A Team” say,” the assault rifle is the big deal here because,assault weaponry discharges bullets at a rapid rate and they go deeper and they fragment inside the human body, it’s very hard to save somebody when they’ve been shot with an assault weapon”.
    While I certainly am no doctor I do have a working knowledge of firearms and ammunition. So called assault weapons fire what is known as an intermediate cartridge, meaning it’s usually smaller and less powerful than the rounds used in the old days. The reason for this was because an individual could carry more rounds and the weapon would be more controllable because of having less recoil. All military ammunition is full metal jacket(fmj) which is used because it causes less grievous wounds than standard hunting ammunition such as soft points or hollow point ammunition which expand upon impact causing a much larger exit wound than non-expanding military type fmj ammunition. Under normal circumstances fmj ammunition DOES NOT expand or fragment, it usually leaves an exit hole about the same size as the entry without as much damage to surrounding tissue.
    I know it’s nitpicking but, that kind of thing just adds to the myth of “The All Powerful Assault Weapon” that can penetrate “police bullet proof vests”. There is no such thing as a bullet proof vest, they are ballistic vests that can provide protection from smaller caliber firearms such as hand guns and shrapnel. They are not advertised or meant to be ” bullet proof” most any deer hunting rifle can shoot through both sides of one with no problem, although those deer rifles are the same thing as those evil “sniper rifles” that Nancy Pelosi and Dianne Fienstein wanted to ban a few years ago.
    I just felt like clearing some of that up. What happened was the result of a messed up individual doing some messed up stuff to a bunch of defenseless people. Don’t be defenseless and don’t depend on someone else to do it for you being totally dependent on someone else to defend you also leaves you at their mercy and people have been known to change their mind.

      1. Good point, someone could have thrown that loaded rifle into the front door of the place and the only way someone would have gotten hurt would be if it hit them before landing on the floor.

    1. It always made me chuckle that people take a bigger issue with things like mp5s and ARs than they ever did about my .338 lapua magnum…
      I mean paperwork hassle etc. gun able to reliably headshot at 2000m? Fine, sign here. Semiauto 9mm short? Hmm hang on, where was your grandfaters cousin in 1934?
      I was floored by the amount of questions and shit for just having a semi mp5…

  55. The reason he was able to kill so many people is because even after the first 30 people were shot the homos were still trying to suck his dick rather than stop him.

    1. they’re already trying to spin this as having nothing to do with his religion and everything to do with homophobia

      1. yes, white mans homophobia and the rights “crazy” obsession with guns. That is what is to blame when some fucking arab terrorist shoots up a club of faggots.

        1. yeah, they’re going to redirect blame to save their narrative. If the guy is islamic state (apparently he pledge allegiance or something) then it’s a jihadi problem, however if his father’s views prevail then it’s because he wasn’t tolerant enough

        2. Nah. Prob not. Because if they did they would have been shoving them up their asses and would not have been able to react.

        3. I just don’t want you to get into trouble. The world needs employable (non-progressive) philosophy professors

        4. Ha. I left philosophy professing behind be back in 2006 and never intend to turn back.

        5. It’s a long story. In the end I find that the Corporate side of construction made a better vocation and philosophy has become more fun now that it is only an avocation

        6. I imagine philosophy is better without the strait-jacket of an academic career. Details aside, construction sounds like a pretty philosophical business, though I presume we’re not talking about social construction here. Not much corporate demand for that I imagine

        7. It has its ups and downs ya know. The straight jacket of academic career did suck. However, it was nice having an audience of people who had the requisite background reading so you could dive into cutting edge stuff rather than explaining from the ground up. If I tell you that I want to promote an idea of Kantian transcendental hedonism and relate it to a project of heraclitian ontology i could explain it so you realized it was cool because you are bright and if you were interested you would catch on but it would require years because you need to read a ton of shit before the controversy even appears let alone how my resolution of it is interesting. That said, it just wasn’t worth it in the end. The endless bullshit is amazing.
          As for my current construction, no, not social…per se….I work for a family of real estate developers directing operations on their management and development businesses including building high rise residential buildings. A strange career jump for sure. I think of it as my second third. I have one more career jump in me. Just not sure to what yet.

        8. building real stuff has got to be better than theory building. Even if it were lego.
          I like reading a bit of philosophy here and there, but after a while my eyes just glaze over; a lot sooner if it’s anything to do with Kant. I hadn’t heard of transcendental hedonism actually. Please don’t tell me what’s its about

        9. actually to be honest, I did wonder whether ‘construction’ meant you might have been a mason. But real estate….that’s even worse

        10. Ha. No I have no affiliation with any organizations. I just help rich people build big buildings

        11. If I tell you that I want to promote an idea of Kantian transcendental hedonism and relate it to a project of heraclitian ontology i could explain it so you realized it was cool because you are bright and if you were interested you would catch on
          That actually (honestly) sounds like a fascinating discussion. In the sandbox of course.

        12. Ah, a fellow recovering academic. I too made the switch, but to aviation. The social sciences seemed to have moved further left, like everything else, since I studied to be Indiana Jones. I realized it was time to hang up the briefcase when the title of every other conference went something like: “Queering modernity: Victim(ized) Bodies in /post/ Hetero-normative Late Capitalism.”

      2. They do realize that gayness is publishable by death according to Islam, right.. fucking libtards

      3. Yep, it’s hard and furious “He hated gays!!!!!!!!” No mention of why he hated gays.

    2. Besides the club was all black apparently. How could they see what they were doing?

      1. I suppose if everyone was smiling at the same time. Come on dude…too easy.

        1. black as in the color not represented on the rainbow flag, but, not in terms of people whom we call “African American” ….I say the music deafened them too?

        2. no, I just meant it in a matter of fact way- it was dark and the music was loud- that’s why so many died.

        3. Yeah, now I feel like an even worse person than person than before. I’m going to delete my comment now

    3. You are the wind under my wings. Heh.

  56. Loog Moog • 5 minutes ago
    Now that the Muz-tards have attacked the LGBTards, Barak Hussein will be SSSOOO conflicted. Which side to be on ?????
    YOU GOT JIHADI ON MY GAY RIGHTS !
    YOU GOT GAY RIGHTS ON MY JIHADI !
    …OOOOOHHH…HOW EXCRUCIATING !
    (OF COURSE, HE WILL USE THIS AS AN EXCUSE TO TRY TO TAKE OUR GUNS) I DARE YOU, YOU FREAKIN DEVIL-WORSHIPPING ILLEGAL ALIEN DICTATOR S.O.B… !
    ACTUALLY, THE REAL SOLUTION IS
    THAT ALL MUZZIES SHOULD BE SENT (BACK) TO THE NEAREST LITTLE SANDBOX COUNTRY.
    SO THEY CAN’T KILL ANYONE EXCEPT THEMSELVES.— IMMEDIATELY.

  57. The Left could react in two ways.
    1. Wake up and realize that Islam is a threat
    2. Double down on “hate speech” and guns

    1. Islam isn’t a threat to the left. On the contrary, it’s a faith custom made for their agenda.
      Judaism taught that God and man had a contract that God himself would not break as long as we kept ours. Islam demands submission to the whims and temper tantrums of the caliph who claims to speak for Allah.

  58. It took less than 12 hours for the ATF to find out where and when he purchased those firearms but ” WE NEED GUN REGISTRATION!”

  59. ROK has given up all pretense and gone full right wing, YT nationalist hate site. I wonder if the Iranian who created this site can recognize the irony?

    1. Because of an article on an arab shooting a gay club and the reactions that followed ?
      How are we supposed to react ? Put rainbow flag filters over our photos on facebook and sing John Lennon’s “Imagine” ?

      1. I thought you’d never mention the flag filters- Jean Bauldrillard’s great non event as the cipher we’ve all become in the void of hyper-reality?

      2. If after reading through these comments, you see no problem, then we have nothing really to discuss.

        1. This what I’m talking about. Rather than taking a critical look at the role we play in spreading this chaos, you’d rather respond with sarcasm and derision.

        2. ” Rather than taking a critical look at the role we play in spreading this chaos ”
          What are you talking about ?
          We didn’t kill fifty homsexuals. What do ” we ” have to do with this ?

        3. We are creating the situations that lead people like this to commit these acts. Is that really so hard for the average WASP to grasp? The more we entangle ourselves in the age old fight between Sunni and Shia, the more…

        4. ” We are creating the situations that lead people like this to commit these acts. ”
          Nigga what ?
          A muslim kills 50 gay men, and it’s our fault ?
          ” The more we entangle ourselves in the age old fight between Sunni and Shia, the more… ”
          What does Shia and Sunni have to do with this ? He didn’t kill them for being Shia or Sunni.
          He just hated gays.

        5. You can’t make your point across clearly and thus sound just like a whiner.
          Your passive aggressiveness makes you seem like a woman or a queer.

        6. “We are creating the situations that lead people like this to commit these acts. Is that really so hard for the average WASP to grasp? The more we entangle ourselves in the age old fight between Sunni and Shia, the more…”
          So why aren’t Muslims better behaved in countries that have zero to do with the Middle East like Sweden?

    2. Roosh is American. He is assimilated. Muhammed Camel Fucker Hussein don’t want to assimilate. Means he ain’t American in my book.

      1. Whatever non-white admixture Roosh has is not very strong. If it was, the leftists would not be attacking him as a straight white male oppressor.

        1. Iranians and Armenians ARE considered white race. 🙂 As are Arabs,Jews, Hindus ..and even Tamils, with their particular shade of ebony. :)))
          American administrative “classification” siliness has nothing to do with anthropology. )
          But, I still find Your attempt at generosity sweet…))

        2. Arabs and Jews are Semites.
          Hindus and Tamils have some Aryan, I.e proto-european genetic legacy but it was mostly washed away due to mixing with other genetic groups.

        3. And since when Semites constitute a “race”? 🙂
          The whole concept of race is based on just three: white, black and mongoloid/yellow…the rest is just subtypes.

        4. Just don’t go to “racial genotypes”, please…You never know which kind of plough worked the great-great-great-granny’s field …;)) People ALWAYS get surprised upon learning who did!
          ))))))

        5. Oh, I am very well aware “how it works” 😉
          Rap on, Fengári Ánthropos…))

    3. He’s one hell of a Deva alright. With the dance of the thousand veils and a bit g&t by eight you’d never know he’s from Dixie doggle doo.

    4. yea let muzzies gun us down while you worry about ‘hate speech’ you fucking faggot.

      1. working as a security guard on a doors of a gay club…I’d say he swung both ways anyway.

    5. don’t worry, maybe it’s just guvmint sock poppets saying de nasty things

    6. It’s getting close, yes (which is ironic, because Roosh is not “white” nor does he consider himself), but this is not hate. Islamic terror is a very, very real threat and must be dealt with accordingly.

      1. I agree that Islamic terrorism is a big problem, but the whites who are guiding this nation can’t seem to solve it and in fact are making it worse.

        1. “but the whites who are guiding this nation can’t seem to solve it and in fact are making it worse.”
          What ethnicity is Obama? Are you blind?

        2. 80% of the “government” is minority. Visit DC sometime. Most the unelected bureaucracy is not white.

        3. Always the white people. It’s like you cannot live without us. Sucks to be you.

    7. you don’t have to be white to realize you want to live in a white society. no safe white society means the whole world will be like the middleeast or south America.

      1. Of course, there aren’t any places on Earth that are safe without whites in the position of authority.

        1. exactly,never mind them,i do like the site but plenty of white supremacists and genuine women haters on here.

    8. Seriously? Dude, you’re a rather decent poster, try to do better.

    9. Well, if an Austrian can convince people that he is the greatest German…and a Georgian that he is the greatest Russian?…:)))))…
      Yes…irony is sweet like the love child of shakarishi and baslogh…with coke- bottom-eyeglasses and serious skin problems… for a good measure..)))))

  60. I feel like this guy was pretty gay and confused himself. He probably requested that his 72 virgins be men.

    1. Disagree. You can hate gays without being gay yourself. That whole canard comes from the Left. Let it go.

      1. Sure you can hate gays without being gay, but why bother? Hatred takes an awful lot of energy to muster, and what could be the impetus without some deep seated personal issues? Most truly hate filled people have some history with respect to their targets. It’s not randomly disseminated.

        1. disgust /= hatred, but the left would love to convince you otherwise.
          but if you feel you’re genuinely right about that term, let me just say i hate the efforts to wreck the nation and push moral degeneracy from every nook and cranny of our garbage culture.
          frankly we’re defined as much by what we hate as by what we love.

        2. Feel as disgusted as you wish, but does it really matter if the victims were homosexual? Or EODM fans (to be fair that was Paris, but you take my point I hope). Or an athletic, popular HS student? Or a pretty girl who never gave some socially awkward virgin the time of day? Or the guy who sleeps with the pretty girl who never gave the socially awkward virgin the time of day? Or a kindergarten student who, god only knows what “crimes” a 5 year old has committed, even in the eyes of a psychopath. There is a twofold problem in America, one of growing religious fundamentalism, and one of gun violence. This isn’t an argument for stricter gun controls necessarily (although I do believe that is an issue), but a cultural problem that needs to be addressed. Plenty of countries have lax gun laws, and they don’t have the number of mass shootings that occur in the US. Isis has found fertile ground hasn’t it? Every disenfranchised loser in this country has a gun, and now they have a cause.

        3. Ignorance = fear = hatred = aggression.
          Trust me to know something about that matter. 🙂

      2. The guy is from Afghanistan. Homosexuality and pedophilia are rampant there. I stand by my statement, although it was made somewhat in jest.

    2. ghost is 100% right, that line of argumentation was meant to cut off men at the knees who condemned the gay culture lifestyle.
      when you think about it all it’s really saying is that gays are even more fucked up than their detractors already claim.

      1. If someone is so homophobic that two gay men kissing, although pretty gross, sends them into a murderous rage well… It says a lot about their character.

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