The Crippling Effect Of The Zero-Defect Mentality

At first I couldn’t believe what I was reading.  So I read it through one more time, just to make sure I wasn’t missing something.  But I hadn’t missed anything.  The article really was saying what I had thought.  What am I talking about?  I’m talking about this article which appeared in Canada’s National Post.

Canada is actually planning to court-martial its special forces commander in Iraq for an accident he had with his rifle.  And what was the accident?  The accidental discharge of one round from his rifle into a safe area.  Unbelievable.  Here is how he explains it:

While preparing to go to a forward trench position as I was arranging my equipment, I negligently discharged one bullet into a safe area while loading my assault rifle…As a soldier and as a special operations officer, the only acceptable standard of care with a weapon is error-free.

That’s it.  That’s all that happened.  No one was injured.  No one was killed.  He just accidentally discharged one round from his loaded rifle into a safe area.  And because of this, he will now lose his career and most likely be drummed out of the services.  It’s just incredible.  What is even more incredible is the last sentence of his quote above:  “the only acceptable standard of care with a weapon is error-free.”

Wrong.  Your bloody job is not to be mistake-free.  When any machinery or weapons are being handled, especially in a hostile-fire zone, mistakes are inevitable.  They are going to happen.  Am I saying that nothing at all should happen?  No.  But for something like this, the worst punishment the guy should receive should be a stern lecture from his CO to get his shit wired tight and un-fuck himself.  Maybe even an adverse fitness report.  But a court-martial?  Are you kidding?

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Society wants men to be like this

Do the Canadian authorities have any idea what they are doing to the morale and fighting spirit of their men with these kinds of prosecutions? Do they realize what the effect of all this will be?  Or do they even care?  Following on the heels of this pathetic story was another article that I couldn’t believe made it to print:  “Does Every US Soldier Really Need To Know How To Fight?” How foolish of me to hold the antiquated notion that the purpose of an army is to fight.  How outdated I am!

Maybe I’m overreacting.  Maybe this is a serious breach of good order and discipline.  But I don’t think so.  If we want to have militaries that can actually fight wars, we have to cultivate a spirit of masculinity and aggressiveness.  We can’t so terrify our men that they are unwilling to take any risk for fear they will be punished.  All that’s going to do is result in an Army or Marine Corps full of aseptic wimps and whiners.  We used to call this the “zero-defect” mentality.  This is the thinking that says:  “Never take risks.  Play it safe.  Don’t rock the boat.  Don’t make anyone look bad.”

And this mentality has permeated all tiers of our society.  I see it everywhere.  We’ve turned into a culture of chickenshits, of people afraid to do anything, a culture in which the highest ethic is to cover your own ass and mumble the party-line.  And this culture is what’s going to get us defeated in the next major war.  Because we will have spent so much time sanitizing our men that they won’t have the ability to defend themselves.  This trend has been going on in the military for a long time, but in the past ten years or so it’s reached shocking levels.  And no one wants to say anything.  Because the generals and civilians at the top are too chickenshit to say anything.

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Why should I risk my pension?  Because it’s in your job description to have a set of balls, sir.  You’re expected to stand up and fucking say something when you see things that are fucked up.

This weekend, I saw an interesting movie.  It was called The Last Days (Los Ultimos Dias), a Spanish film from 2013.  It was one of those apocalypse films.  And the premise of this one was intriguing.  The idea is that people around the world began to be afflicted with acute agoraphobia.  That is, they were unable to leave their homes and go outside in the open air.  If they did, they would suffer seizures and die.  As a result, all modern society collapsed. The streets of Barcelona became totally deserted and overgrown with weeds.  Complete and total collapse.

The movie doesn’t specifically give us the reasons for the outbreak of “The Panic” (as it was called).  But they hint at the reason: the modern world had become too aseptic.  Too clinical.  Too filled with risk-averse people who were afraid to get their hands dirty.  So people’s immunity systems began to collapse.  People just began to feel overwhelmed with everything, and preferred to curl up into the fetal position and stay indoors.

It may sound farfetched.  But sometimes science-fiction can tell us much about the mood of an era.  Already, we read headlines about men in Japan and other countries who are literally afraid to leave their rooms.  Afraid even to have sex with women.  Afraid to engage with the world.  Afraid to get in the arena and mix it up.

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It’s clear that modern society (at least in the West) is determined to create a generation of neutered, aseptic chickenshits who are fearful of doing literally anything.  And when this ethic takes hold, it will be our death-knell.  Because you need to have people who are willing to put their asses on the line.  And you need to reward those who take chances.  Especially in war.  Especially in conflict.  Wars are not won by men who are afraid to touch their rifles for fear that they may accidentally discharge.  It happens sometimes.  And that’s just part of the game.  Suck it up.  And deal with it.

Meanwhile, in other part so the world outside the clinical, zero-defect, aseptic West, there are cultures with men who willingly take risks.  Men who have nothing to lose and are not afraid to do whatever it takes.  They laugh at your rules.  They laugh at your weakness.  And they are sharpening their knives.

All the technology and armaments in the world are of no use if the people controlling them are spineless, gutless chickenshits.

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157 thoughts on “The Crippling Effect Of The Zero-Defect Mentality”

  1. I’ve seen that film a few times. it’s quite good. what bothers me about modern society is weak men. something primal in me gives me the urge to bully and hurt them

    1. That’s because bullism is supposed to build character. Bullying is bad just because we taught the bullied to not escalate the situation but to shut up and take the abuse (and eventually report the issue to a de-facto powerless authority). If you teach people to stand up for themselves, bullism goes back to being a self-regulating system.

      1. Agreed. Bullying is part of human nature, especially among boys. The response you suggest is the correct one. Teaching the kid to defend himself and fight back when necessary. These “stamp out bullying” campaigns are complete and utter BS. It will never be stamped out no matter how many lefty teachers and counselors try to busybody it away.
        No, the job of keeping a kid from being excessively bullied lies squarely on the shoulders of the boy’s father. It is his duty as a man to train his son to be mentally and physically capable of defending himself. And to monitor his progress as well. I do not mean being one of those moronic helicopter parents. I mean taking notice of things, is the kid on sports team, does he have a good group of friends, when he is a teen, is he dating pretty girls? Or does the kid just mope around and stay in his room? A good father trains his son to be a real man, and never lets him slip through the cracks. That is a father who gives a damn. Problem is, not all of us have a father who gives a damn.

        1. Yeah. I know a couple of things about that. My father was a virtual absentee my entire life and it took me a lot of my adult life to turn into a semi-balanced human being. I’m still working on it right now.

        2. They don’t want to stamp it out. The system uses bullying. The ignorant teachers and school administrators just do what higher ups tell them. Higher ups who get what to do from experts paid by foundations. The very design of programs against bullying promote it and protect it. It becomes an institutional function of conditioning the children.

      2. My son had a problem with a kid pushing him around. I told him to defend himself if he felt threatened, figuring he does sports and is in great shape vs the average kid.
        Very next day, my son took this kid down. We got a report from the school about proper social interaction and solving problems, and had to talk to the administration. But you know what, that kid has not gone within yards of my son, and was back in class doing just fine an hour later. Risk-Reward.

  2. You aren’t overreacting. The U.S. Army is in the same state as the British Army in 1853, just before the Crimean War: At the battalion level and below, we have good men and good leaders. At the Brigade level and up, our leaders and culture are shit. The politics at the Brigade level and higher are too close to Washington pandering to make an effective fighting force.
    In the next war (ironically likely to be Russia, as it was in 1853), we will probably win, but suffer far more causalities than necessary. By 1853, the British Army at the time was not the British Army that defeated Napoleon, even though many of its officers had served at Waterloo: it had become inefficiently bureaucratic, to the point where pointless bureaucratic rules were imposed at Sebastapol (such as only disbursing nails in quantities greater than 1 ton). Today, it’s SHARP (sexual harassment prevention) and reflective belts.
    As to the Special Forces soldier having an ND: There is no excuse for an ND. I could see an Article 15 for a private or NCO, or even a junior officer. But a senior Special Forces soldier sets the example. I wouldn’t court martial him, but I’d publicly punish him.

      1. Isn’t the standard punishment for harmless misconduct when discharging a weapon to put the guy on desk duty doing paperwork for a while?

        1. There really is a line of distinction between between soldiers and leaders: a minor transgression from a private straight out of Basic Training is usually dealt with by some serious corrective PT.
          However, if a senior leader (E7 and higher or O3 and higher, which are Sergeant First Class and Captain, respectively) does something like have a negligent discharge, it is treated as a more serious offense: those soldiers are supposed to be setting the example for those young privates straight out of Basic Training. And if you’re considered competent enough to lead a platoon or command a company of 150 men, you’d better be able to control your personally assigned weapon at all times.
          I agree with Quintus: A court martial is overdoing it, but I’d heavily advocate for more punishment than would be given an E1 private in that same situation.

        2. Depends on the unit, but usually they are short handed and the guy would get an article 15 (extra duty) and it is kept within the unit. Sometimes it is simply ignored pending the OIC– shit happens.

      2. The worst thing that could’ve happened to the military is media involvement. You have corporate mouth pieces with communications degrees, paid for by Daddy, critiquing men in battle.
        It has turned our generals from leaders into politicians, while the rank and file troops second guess themselves at critical moments in fear of any humane mishap being on the evening news.

    1. In 1853 British army was homogeneous, today its a multicultural, tranny-friendly cesspool. Like hell you’ll win (sarcasm)

    2. I see parallels between our military today and the Union Army. Commanders so cultured to fear making waves or taking risks that they would give in to that fear even under a ruthless CiC who exhorted ’em to take risks.

    3. Would you want to go out on a unsupported six man recon patrol into Indian territory with a guy that doesn’t know how to operate his weapon system?
      I wouldn’t.
      This wasn’t some boot private on loan from the mess hall, this was an SF operator….
      Not for nothing, I spent 4 years as a grunt. I only know of 1 ND (a blank round no less) and tellingly it was by a shitbird that had many other flaws (we promptly beat him down and then denied him the privlege of live rounds for the rest of his enlistment).

  3. The mistake this guy made was not going tranny and using his pussy pass. Women make a shitload of mistakes on a daily basis, so there’s no way they will ever be held to this standard.

    1. Why does anyone even know that this happened?
      …oh, this guy caught a case of “the stupid” and reported it to his command himself! WTF!

  4. your view is shortsighted. The reason these things are happening and proposed is because the future of warfare is drone warfare. People will sit at desks with joysticks and screens and kill people thousands of miles away with no risk to themselves.
    In such a scenario, knowing how to fight is unnecessary because there will be no fighting. One only has to have the willingness to kill. Furthermore the next step will simply be to send drones to make the killing decisions. Humans, at least for those who have drones will not be necessary.

    1. Wrong. Your perception about the capabilities of drones is way off base. People have been saying this same shit since tanks first appeared on the battlefield over a century ago. We aren’t any closer to taking humans out of danger.

      1. Yeah I mean if anything, Id way rather have manned mech suits than faggy gliders with long ranged ballistics attached anyway…

        1. At the end of the day, those drones are only able to blow shit up because there are dudes on the ground feeding it actionable intelligence about targets. Those guys are always going to be in danger. Plus mech suits would be sick. If I could get a mech suit with an M-134 minigun on it, I might join back up to go fuck up ISIS.

        2. If they were actually a thing, I would do everything in my power to get inside one.
          And M61 vulcan on that bad boy.
          Grown man wet dreams.

    2. Brings to mind the knife-throwing scene from Starship Troopers: Your enemy cannot push a button if you disable his hand!
      Drones suck and are very fallible, ISIS was literally livestreaming our drone video feeds and Iran was able to capture (at least) one.
      https://youtu.be/FNhYJgDdCu4?t=11s

  5. When I was in the reserves I tried to organize a ruck march for my company at a local nature preserve to get some fun group PT in.
    As part of putting together a proposal to do fucking anything in the Army a standardized risk assessment needs to be done.
    I shit you not, because it wasn’t deemed mission essential, and because there was no way to mitigate the possibility that someone might trip over a root, or become fucking dehydrated, my command would not approve the activity.
    This mentality is fully permeated and ridiculously entrenched within Army culture. Because of this idea of “zero-defect” procedure, men (and lesbians) are forced to take no risks. Because if they do, their NCOs and their command all the way up the hierarchy is held accountable, and they’re (understandably) worried about nothing other than doing whatever it takes to get to the next promotion board – whether that means endless lectures about sexual harassment and assault, hour-long slideshows about the new gay in boots policy, or making sure that privates wear reflective belts every time they exit their billets to go take a shit.
    So in the end, the dykes kept getting fatter, the chronic apft failures somehow weren’t seperated from duty, and a guy like me who loves his country left the military to go do anything the fuck else in the world than sit around being told its too dangerous to take a fucking nature walk.

    1. This is where the U.S. Army is failing as an organization. What was once an Army based on the Prussian Model (thanks to Baron von Steuben) which was the predecessor to Moltke’s Auftragstaktik (initiative and independent thinking) is now an Army of no risks, and hence, no rewards.
      I recall an anecdote given by a Prussian soldier during the Franco-Prussian war in regards to an exchange between General Moltke and a Bavarian Officer:
      Essentially, the Major was giving the excuse that that he didn’t follow up an attack on the French because he had been ordered by Crown Prince Wilhelm I to hold position.
      Moltke replied that as a Major, he should have assumed the initiative in the tactical situation and attacked anyway, and that the Crown Prince made him a Major because he “trusted his judgement completely.”
      Bear in mind, this was Prussia of 1871, still ruled by an absolute monarch. And the monarch’s most trusted General (Moltke) was telling a mere major that, as a Major, he was basically obligated to disobey the orders of the Crown Prince if the tactical situation warranted it.
      Whether it is the amazing performance of the Prussian General Staff in that war, or Lord Nelson’s disobedience of an order at Copenhagen that led to decisive British victory, even junior leaders need to be empowered to make tactical decisions that may even be contrary to orders.
      Unfortunately, all today’s Army wants to “empower” its soldiers to do is change genders, suck other men’s dicks, watch PowerPoints or wear PT belts.

      1. Mabus is singlehandely wrecking half of the US military. Of course, the Army and Air Force haven’t really needed his help.

      2. Lord Nelson’s disobedience of an order at Copenhagen that led to decisive British victory

        Thankfully Nelson’s famed insubordination didn’t manifest in the dolts in command at Yorktown. I’d like to think that Cornwallis put a beating on those numbskulls later on.

      3. The Army is all about following orders, not having initiative. If the Major would have initiated an unauthorized failed attack, he would have been severely punished.
        “In the fourth century B.C., a captain under the notoriously severe Chinese general Wu Ch’i charged ahead before a battle had begun and came back with several enemy heads. He thought he had shown his fiery enthusiasm, but Wu Ch’i was unimpressed. “A talented officer,” the general said with a sigh as he ordered the man beheaded, “but a disobedient one.” “- Robert Greene – The 48 Laws of Power.

        1. Not the same circumstance. The major in question was the ranking officer in the field and saw a change in the ground situation and had to make a decision. The officer in Sun Tzu’s story openly disobeid his superiors orders. He absolutely deserved to die for what he did.
          According Ariel Sharon, the decision of the head commander on the ground trumps everything, he did not merely say this, he practiced it. During the Yom Kippur war he opened a corrider through the Egyptian forces and spread out behind them. On the map his manuever seemed insane, on the ground however, his forces clearly had the enemy cut off from resupply and surrounded. High command were screamkng at him to retreat, he refused unless a superior ranked officer agreed to come to the field to directly see the situation.

        2. The 4th Century BC Chinese army is not the same as the Prussian Army of 1871. Your comment is unbelievably off base and off topic, I’m surprised you’re even commenting on military matters.
          You are also wrong. It is unlikely the Major would have been severely punished. In that same war, General Steinmetz went against orders and ordered his troops to attack at Gravelotte, an attack which failed. He was even punished, and retired after the war. This was because he showed initiative.

        3. Also keep in mind here that your example represents a strategic deviation whereas FitzRoy is referencing a tactical situation.
          Wu Ch’i’s decision may have interfered with an overall battle plan in a manner that could’ve led to the unraveling of a well-crafted strategy.
          Talking tactical sense is a different story, I’ll give you another example.
          In many contemporary combat zones, command sets the rules of engagement (ROE). For US ground troops in many areas that often means they need to radio HQ and request permission to respond upon taking contact (deliberate enemy fire). If a leader disregards ROE, he might face heavy penalties (it is a means of micromanaging combat in order to prevent error) but in following ROE, he might get guys killed for failing to make a tactical decision to engage an obvious enemy while hunkering down behind a humvee and getting on the comms.
          One RPG can make a big difference in 20 seconds.
          Which action would you choose?

      4. “Bear in mind, this was Prussia of 1871, still ruled by an absolute monarch. And the monarch’s most trusted General (Moltke) was telling a mere major that, as a Major, he was basically obligated to disobey the orders of the Crown Prince if the tactical situation warranted it.”
        Come on, even I can see how this is “big boss covering his ass”. If the Major’s own initiative had led to a bad outcome, surely he would have been chastised for not following orders. But I may be wrong, of cours.e

        1. You are wrong. General Steinmetz disobeyed orders at Gravelotte, in quite literally the same war, and was hardly punished even though the attack failed (he was sent home to command reserves, an extremely light punishment).
          But this was only because the attack failed, not because he disobeyed orders. And Historian Geoffrey Wawro goes out of his way to make this important distinction.

        2. Forgive my angst in the earlier post, it was mostly due to another poster trying to equate the 4th Century BC Chinese Army to the Prussian Army of 1871. There are some universal constants with Armies (such as having rank…an experiment of armies without rank was something Communists tried without much success), but the Prussian Army was radically different than the Chinese Army of 2000 years previous.
          There is an unwillingness in America’s military right now to take risks. Because soldiers might die.
          While concern for the welfare of your men is a key quality in any General or Admiral, one of the greatest things you can do for men’s morale is to win the battle, and the war. Wartime military service is dangerous, and few of us that went to Iraq or Afghanistan had any illusions about that. In fact, in Afghanistan, we were more angry that we weren’t allowed to “initiate kinetic action” as we had in Iraq (ie: attack things).
          To the civilians on the board, this may seem odd or alien. But it’s the truth: we would have been happier with both the authorization to attack the Taliban and the risk of casualties than be relegated to presence patrols that literally drove by Taliban safe houses with our hands tied behind our back.
          To any future U.S. Presidents or Generals here: do not send in an Infantry battalion, which has an implied order to close with and destroy the enemy upon positive identification as such, if your intention is not to close with and destroy the enemy. FFS, use an MP or Civil Affairs battalion.

        3. Communists had armies without rank?? Which commies?
          What, like officers, commisars and then everyone else?
          Sounds awful..

      5. What this boils down to is trust among men based on the integrity of the men. Where integrity is lacking, trust will be lacking, where trust is lacking, procedure takes its place and all the “right” things are done, right up until the barbarians have killed everyone.

    2. Was there not some article here about the SEALS tho that pretty much said: Do good work for 6 months, then make one mistake and it was bascially for nothing, because nobody trusts you anymore?

        1. Thats a good choice. One of the many I wish I’d made.
          My bunkmate in basic was going that route. He was just as smart as me so I bet he damn made it too…
          Sounds like youve done some research and thats important.
          The key to a military career is choosing an MOS that transfers into a civvy application after retirement. Pilot is a damn hood one.
          Have you tested yet?
          Listen, I know I probably wont change your mind with this, but if you want aviations there are other branches for that…
          And as being in the army no longer screams masculine environment I think its something to consider.

        2. Others would have to be officer. I heard thats a lot of BS. I’d consider marines, but pilots can get anything. I have no interest in cargo/bombers.
          Have you been in the civ world long? Its pretty faggy/effeminate out here.

        3. Fair enough. Like I said, warrant is a good way to go, helo pilot would be bad ass. Ticks the box of post-retirement skills xfer.
          Juat expect that the army has a way planned to suck the fun out of anything.
          You may have seen this before, but it is literally (hitler) the most accurate way to explain day to day army life to an outsider. Maybe flying a bird would make life more interesting.
          But I wouldnt count on it…

          Lol and by the way. Unless you’re actually deployed, you get to take part in regular life just like everyone else. So its been awful, watching the bar go lower and lower. I realized one day that I didn’t want to get blown up for these people anymore. I’ll always love that flag, but those who shelter under it are a different story.

        4. Haha, yeah ive seen that video before. Is warrant legit? I heard its the best of both worlds. When you are deployed or even not, what is a typical day length? I heard an air force grunt once tell me he was working 16 hrs 7 days a week and I was like ‘wtf…’

        5. Yeah that video is basically only understood by those that have been in. Hurry up and wait and extensive bureaucracy are what the Army’s all about.
          As per your question, deployed? Yeah you work til the mission is done. No time for breaks when there’s a war going on soldier.
          Garrisoned is more like a regular workday (~8-10hrs)
          I was an enlisted man, had plans to go warrant if I reenlisted, but decided to separate. You’re called Sir (or Cheif once promoted) but you’re not brass. Pay is good, your roll is a specialized subject-matter expert and you rarely have to track others like an officer would.
          Plus, if you can pass the tests you get to fly a death machine. Then you get to retire fully qualified to keep flying, but for more money in the civilian world and with retirement to draw.
          If you’re dead set on the Army and don’t want a political military career (officers) then you’ve landed on a solid choice. Probably the best one I can think of in terms of job fulfilment and long-term benefits.

    3. This is an extension of the attitude throughout society. Suffocating safety at all costs. Not only can you not risk other people’s safety but you cannot risk your own. You must wear a seatbelt, you must drive within certain speed limits (which get lower and lower), you must have a reverse driving camera in your car, airbags, and so on. Safety must now become the number priority.
      Never mind that to live is risk dying.

      1. The speed limits are sold on safety but have other purposes for government.
        1) Revenue.
        2) The ability to stop anyone anytime. If you’re driving like everyone else you are speeding. If you’re obeying the speed limit you’re suspiciously avoiding possible interaction with law enforcement.
        3) Beyond the stop arrests from 2).
        Oh and the backup cameras… we got those because of crappy visibility out of modern cars. Why do modern cars have poor visibility? Because roll over regulations and other safety requirements that limit the size of the greenhouse of the car and the amount of window area. Then there is of course CAFE and other issues which brought about using passenger trucks (SUVs) as regular vehicles. The whole safety nonsense feeds upon itself now. And don’t forget airbags that killed…. I can go on and on…

        1. Even with the crappy visibility I have yet to run over a small child, in spite of my best efforts.
          Strangely, even children aren’t stupid enough to stand behind a reversing car.

        2. Some people managed to run over their children…. so there has to be law. If it only saves one life…. (never mind those it kills)

        3. I don’t follow your logic. So you are taking the opposite view to the one expressed in the above article?

        4. Sarcasm. They pass new mandates and then those mandates kill people so they pass more laws and mandates.
          rollover protection->children get backed over->back up cameras.
          airbags->kids and small adults killed->kids in back seat laws.

        5. People must be smarter in England as of yet people walk behind my backing up huge pickup truck all the time here..
          We really are that stupid here in NA

    4. Same for UK police.
      UK army reserves were heading that way a few years back, not sure how far they’ve fallen, which would be a shame, I feel I’d like to rejoin.

    5. It sounds to me like it’s time for the men in the military whom hate this type of ridiculousness, to start forming local county based militias when they get home. Honor and glory should be rewarded. Cudos if you can get the local sheriff to agree to deputize every militia member, or an agreement with the sheriff’s department to deputize militia members in times of crisis.
      The approach of two weekends a month and two weeks a year training could even be used. For men only, and men are encouraged to act like men.

      1. I’ve thought quite a great deal about doing such a thing myself.
        Unfortunately I’ve relocated far away from everyone I know…
        Honestly I was hoping big-man would put out another call for meetups. Anything in the guise of meeting like-minded individuals in my area in order to establish a network.
        Not gonna happen with my local sheriff though. I’m deep in blue territory.

    6. Lol and the common excuse is Safety First!!! and everyones a safety officer lol. Yea I gave up on force PT I just went through the motions in the morning. Its the same reason why the on base gym was a Saturday night nightclub after work everyday. Complete waste of time… extend to the left march GTFO.

      1. I always enjoyed my exaggerated battlecry while extending and overenthusiastic echo of “THE WINDMILLLLL!!!!!” Great way to voice my obvious dissent while masking it from 1Sgt if he wandered by. False motivation is better than none right?
        Yeah. It always felt like seniors water aerobics
        Now a “half-right . . . FACE!”
        There was some good calestenics.
        Had to be some level of embarassment to get a good workout though in smdh.

  6. Men who have nothing to lose and are not afraid to do whatever it takes.
    That’s one of the reasons our soldiers have different risk tolerances (on the individual level). Most of our enemies come from countries that are poorer than us. Some of them literally have nothing to lose – there isn’t much economic opportunity at home. They can gain glory and status by fighting and winning. Some might even gain glory and status if they die (just not in the physical world).
    Our soldiers might have their own ideological motivations, but it makes sense for them to be risk-averse – they physically have a lot more to lose.
    It also makes sense for our society to care more for soldier’s lives. They’re not just cannon fodder – they have complex jobs that take a lot of training to do right. Even if we just needed warm bodies, we don’t have a high enough birth rate to replace tens of thousands of dead young men.
    Our enemies have lots of military-age men; they can just hand a bunch of them guns, point them in the right direction, and absorb the losses. Hell, it even helps control demand for jobs and women back home.
    Now, you’re right that war has risks and we need to accept that. But how do we create a culture that accepts those risk without becoming cavalier assholes?

  7. It’s called liability culture…nobody moves, nobody gets hurt. This trend started in the late 90’s and it’s in full retard mode now.

    1. Like wearing a helmet when biking ? there was study showing that it’s actually more dangerous to wear one. Now the cops give ticket when pedestrians cross a road outside the markings. Madness !

      1. Only a retard would get a ticket while walking. No law requires you to carry ID or a “walker’s license”. Why in the world would anyone correctly identify themselves instead of giving the name and address of someone they don’t like?

  8. This is just like the complaint of men being creepy who use day game. No one magically starts out being charming..only time and effort takes care of that. Feminism likes to avoid the pain necessary for advancement. No safe spaces for men only perfection or death.

  9. When men have nothing left to lose they have nothing left to fear. That is what starts wars and revolutions. And that is what is coming to America and soon Western Europe. The only difference is in America we have the guns to actually start a revolution. (Why do you think millions of firearms have been purchased since 2008?)

    1. And many of them are not particpating in the work force with lots of idle time. Not to mention the growing realization that the culture at large hates them.

  10. In product development I am told over and over again to fail my way to success. But I am punished for failure. If I can’t get it right the first time I’ve failed and thus not deserving of raises or promotions. Keep mind sometimes I am creating things that just don’t plain exist. It’s even more fun when I am denied the funds and test time for prototypes. And if I reduce my risk by any means I am chastised for not taking risks. Or if I take risks, have some bumps but it pays out then I am still bad because of the bumps.
    All I can figure is I am supposed to take risks with a 100% chance of working out well. Which means they aren’t risks.

  11. I fear shooting my cum up inside some gorgeous slut who normally waits around for some SJW to tell her what is right and what is wrong…seriously. I wait around for days. Weeks. Months. All I want to do, is make retarded people happy. I swear.

  12. The idea is that people around the world began to be afflicted with
    acute agoraphobia.
    That is, they were unable to leave their homes and go outside in the open air. If they did, they would suffer seizures and die.

    So Asimov’s Robot series + WALL-E?

  13. This is zero defect mentality has penetrated the world of science as well, due to over regulation and fear of being punished.
    For example, the Hershey-Chase experiment done in the 1950’s proved DNA was the hereditary structure of organisms using radioactive Sulfur material. If done today, both Hershey and Chase would’ve been arrested by OSHA, EPA, etc.

  14. A true story from WWI. Some italian general said “defend this valley”. Rommel with some Germans passed trough mountains. Italians obeyed orders.

  15. Im not complaining, let them neuter themselves. When the time is right the barbarians among us will take what is rightfully ours.

  16. Wrong on the ND – Negligent Discharge. This is just not a forgivable form of mishandling for a trained special forces soldier.

      1. According to who?

        Me, and rather than punt arguments from authority – I’ll tell you precicely why…
        The clue is in the name – Negligent Discharge – which is what they are called in the UK, New Zealand and Australian Military. They are not called accidental discharges for a reason.
        For the weapon to have discharged, regardless of whether it was a pistol, assault rifle, DMR – Designated Marksman Rifle, sniper rifle, machine gun, a shotgun or pretty much any firearm, three conditions had to occur…
        1) A round was chambered
        2) The action must have been cocked and
        3) The trigger pulled.
        NDs are basic mishandling recruit level or poorly trained low grade troop type stuff.
        The normal thing when going out on patrol or operations would be to load weapons, pointing in a safe direction, or from a patrol base, into a designated sand filled reloading bay. Similarly for unloading when ending a patrol or operation.
        The 2 easiest ways NDs occur are firstly – when unloading after carrying with a round in the chamber due to getting the sequence wrong. The unload drill is
        1) Point the weapon into the reloading/ unloading bay or in a safe direction.
        2) Remove the source of the ammo, for machine guns, a belt, and for most other weapons, a magazine.
        3) Open the action to eject the chambered round. Inspect, or, in the dark, feel the empty chamber with a finger.
        4) For most riles and pistols then rack the weapon 3 times – by way of idiot proofing. Because if you have gotten the sequence wrong and failed to remove the magazine or belt, closing the action after inspecting the empty chamber will simply feed in a fresh round. This is a common source of NDs. Racking 3 times will bring this to your attention by spewing the rounds onto the ground.
        5) Lastly you pull the trigger on an empty chamber to de-cock and then apply the safety.
        The other way NDs typically happens is troops being familiar with carrying weapons in training or on low risk ops in a ‘made safe’ condition. That is with no rounds in the chamber, with a loaded magazine in or a belt attached. Firing the weapon would require cocking first.
        Badly disciplined or low grade troops very soon pick up handling errors by fiddling with the trigger and or the safety catch when bored. Nothing will happen because the chamber is empty. Suddenly going on ops where the weapon is carried made ready – that is with a rounds in the chamber (or the working parts to the rear on a belt fed open-bolt machine gun) with the same bad handling discipline will likely result in an ND.
        There is no excuse for special forces troops to make these sort of errors… none.

        1. “There is no excuse for special forces troops to make these sort of errors… None.”
          Thanks for your clarification, but your aurthority has no weight with me.
          Fatigue will lead to discharges, and a load of other things, especially in high stress enviroments. SF is no acception there, but making them examples according to your “holier-than-thou” expectations is a bit much.

        2. your aurthority has no weight with me.

          My argument was pointedly not from authority – I cited no credentials – it was from reason.

          making them examples according to your “holier-than-thou” expectations

          It’s about standards, basic weapon handling errors like this are not the standards expected of tier 1 special forces. Infractions far less severe and potentially consequential would result in removal and return to unit.

        3. “This is just not a forgivable ..”
          Your post is your opinion and is far removed from reason or experience.
          Factors, direct and indirect, will lead to discharges, accidents, friendly fire, etc.. and that will always be the case especially in combat zones.
          Prosecuting a Special ops solider for an infratction, in an adverse environment no less, makes no sense considering the amount of time and money spent training him and the amount of experience he has accumulated. Unless you just have a hard on for maliciously prosecuting better men than yourself as some desk jockey. Then it makes sense.

        4. Genetic fallacy and ad hominems distractions aside.
          The man – Maj Gen Michael Rouleau – is the commander of all Canadian special forces, he is a two star general and as such will be expected to set an example, he certainly shouldn’t get off with a lesser punishment than his men would for a similar infraction, or those in equivalent formations in the rest of NATO.
          The good general failed to meet required basic weapon handling standards…something he himself agrees with when he stated in his letter “as a soldier and as a special operations assaulter, the only acceptable standard of care with a weapon is error-free.”
          source
          Based on other such incidents, he’ll likely get a fine – like folks do after committing traffic infractions, such as jumping red lights, turning into a one way street or perhaps the closest parallel – driving without due care and attention. It remains to be seen if General Rouleau will also be relieved of his command.
          If he wasn’t charged, the optics would be simply appalling, and terrible for morale. Because it would smack of double standards. Any soldier or special forces operater having an ND will face sanction and I understand that in Canada military law covers this sort of scenario.

        5. No distactions. Just obersvations of man with no experience looking through regs and rule books far, far away.
          “If he wasn’t charged, the optics would be simply appalling, and terrible for morale.”
          You know this how?
          “Any soldier or special forces operater having an ND will face sanction and I understand that in Canada military law covers this sort of Scenario.”
          It’s a non-issue being blown up to cudgel a man who probably has more balls than all of Ontario, but have at it. Your posts allude to the topic of this article well.

        6. You know this how?

          Because I was a British Commando subaltern – admittedly it was back in the 80s – nevertheless, I know how seriously ND – Negligent Discharges – are viewed, that they automatically result in the offender being put on a charge, regardless of rank.
          It seems the Canadians take the same view, hardly surprising as the Canadian military largely follows its British provenance. If you were knowledgeable on these matters, or just a tad perceptive, you would have already picked up from my language and the terms I have used, that I know, in some detail, about what I speak.
          Incidentally, if you look at an AK you’ll notice that the change lever, safety catch is on the right sight well out of the way of the pistol grip, to operate it you have to take your hand off the pistol grip and make a deliberate action, and it’s clear from quite a distance what position the change lever/ catch is in. This design is for a reason, despite the appalling ergonomics – and it is to cater for the fiddle problem of low grade, poorly trained troops. Western weapons have the change lever safety catch right to hand. This requires the fiddle problem to be properly expunged in training.
          Ironically, a senior officer is perhaps more likely to make this sort of handling error than those from the less exalted ranks. Simply because senior officers spend less time in the field and operating weaponry than do enlisted ranks or more junior officers; and a Major General, even a special forces one, is largely an office wallah. Unless they are gun nuts – and most, even special forces officers, are not – they get rusty.

        7. Thanks for your thought out reply.
          Coming from somone who served, and was deployed, in a diffrent army I would consider this incident minor. A mild incident that *may* have stiff rebukes in garrison (article 15 tops) would be, under deployment circumstances, simply ignored in less confined circumstances as the mission requirements take priortiy over UCMJ infractions.

  17. Fucking hell. I’m not a promoter of war and violence by any stretch of the imagination but holy shit this is fucked up something fierce. The best deterrent against violence is the threat of violence itself. You cannot have peace if you don’t have the balls to go to war.
    Goddamit.

    1. Prerequisite is that there is something worth fighting for in the first place. I wouldn’t go to war for Germany for all the fame and glory in the world.

      1. I’m not even talking about actually going to war, just being prepared to it. Look at it this way, if a country isn’t ready to go to war, then war will certainly come to that country.

        1. Well, that preparation starts on a personal level. And while I find myself incapable of preparing in that way, I do have a strategy. If the war comes to my country, I leave “my” country. Easy peasy.

        2. I could argue about that, but my comment was about the way the milatary is being treated and how it treats itself.

        3. Sure. But what is a band of brothers that have no values they can truly stand behind? What reason do they have to even care to defend something? Hell, if Germany was invaded, I may just as well consider conforming to the invader’s new laws. Can’t be much worse now, can it.

        4. I’m not sure where you are going with this.
          I was talking about the purpose of the military and how the current mentality works against that purpose.

    2. “The best deterrent against violence is the threat of violence itself. You cannot have peace if you don’t have the balls to go to war.”
      The reason we’ve seen the wars since 1945 is because the world realized we “lost the balls” to use our most destructive weapons. If we’d dropped a nuke on Vietnam, assuming it didn’t result in a total nuclear war, we never would have seen the wars that followed. If the muzzies really thought we’d drop a bomb on their shithole of a country and turn it into a glass parking lot, you think they would have flown planes into our buildings? You dying is one thing. You, everyone you know, your entire family, and your way of life/religion. That’s something entirely different.
      Unfortunately, the world has called our bluff and we continue to show we’re not willing to do it. And, frankly, it might be a good thing; using those weapons may have led to total war and the death of most everyone.

      1. Wars were ever fought for two reason and two reasons only: ideologies and profit. Now, ideologies have lost their appeal in the 1st world country and profit is more easily acquired through the open market (through government and corporate espionage).
        However, there are still poor countries that would fight over ideologies and the only things that keep them at bay (forcing them to terrorism rather than open warfare) its military superiority.

  18. Good article.
    Hey, my mother was in the military. In the civilian military. In the laboratory. Checking water samples. Top secret stuff, I tell ya.
    She earned some 3000 EUR a month from the gov, give or take. I once visited her for a week during a school internship thingy. The work seemed pretty simple. I once asked her if she thinks I would be able to do it with 2 weeks of instruction. She said: Probably yes.

  19. it is happening because more and more women are running corporations, organisations and the world
    what do you expect?
    Are men supposed to opt out of the world?
    Look at the ceo of Satchi and Satchi, he said one honest thing and was dismissed… after serving the company for 20 years about women
    my workplace has told me off for walking too fast…
    it is getting ridiculous
    but we and other men chose this
    they supported this
    they encourage this
    What are we supposed to do?
    Look at facebook
    every user is now bombarded with a feminist campaign as soon as they login…

    1. Not really that simple. Just makes it more likely someone pushes the button.
      Most of that 1960s hardware still works.

  20. zero-defect is just fine, but it usually turns into a nasty finger pointing.
    Instead of trying to uncover the underlying stuff that made the mistake possible.

  21. Fantastic article. And while most damaging in the military, the same shit is going on inside every major company in the US. A ton of people sitting in rooms with big/huge salaries sitting around talking about something. They all KNOW the right answer. However, they all sit and wait for the other guy to say the right thing because they don’t want to be the one to take the unpopular view. Nobody says anything, and the bleeding/fuckups/etc continue. It’s aseptic to the extreme, and this is corporate America.
    It’s 9AM, and I’ve already held back a few comments that I KNOW are true, KNOW need to be said, and yet, I just can’t muster the give a fuck enough to go through the BS that will result if I say it. 2 people on my calls are absolute morons and need to be fired immediately. And we’re chasing an opportunity that we simply cannot win; we all KNOW we cannot win, and yet nobody will say “Fuck it, let’s do something that we have a chance of winning” for fear of rocking the boat.
    The money flushed down the toilet is beyond all imagination. Welcome to rule by committee.

    1. Honestly at work I don’t care that much about such things. It is a paycheck I just work there. I do my best. That’s all I need to do.

    2. I used to think the same way about office culture, I was the guy that would pound on the desk, call out bullshit , make quality suggestions on how to attack the problem all while offering to do it myself….but it doesn’t pay off. You will get sidelined for showing people up or told to pack your desk and take a walk because you are a threat to the hegemony. The first time you make a mistake, all of the people you have hammered time after time will have been sharpening their knives, they will bury you.
      My free advise, something often taken as bullshit because of the cost. If you are subject to an office power structure (AKA bosses with bosses) you need to look at as being in the business of YOU. Grease whatever skids need to be greased, do what needs to be done to get ahead. Its not about how well the project is going, the company or anyone else. Its about maximizing your individual pay and time off. That’s your modern harvest, anything that gets in the way is taking from your table.
      I had enough of the mediocrity in the corporate world. Over the last 10 years I build a solid manufacturing company. I don’t hire people that make excuses or make up reasons for why something “can’t” be done. If I do, I rectify it quickly. If you really want to stand up for your principles, quit being part of the system. Its not possible to fight it from the inside.

    3. ‘Herd-think’ is a woman thing. It’s a womanly way to be and to inter relate. Perhaps the committee room of men needs preached to on simple nuts and bolts ‘true nature of women’ herdthink. If you can’t stand up and filibuster on the topic, then perhaps posters regularly taped above the urinals would do the job. Friendly preachy messages in the tone of the ‘Daily Bread’ and ‘Smile God LovesYou’ pamphlets you see in restrooms. “The True Nature of Women” and anecdotes of ‘womanherdthinkers’ driving companies, nations and marriages into the toilet. “Don’t be like a woman” “Don’t be like that”

    1. Very smart people come up with how to shape and manage society and have been doing so for well over a century. We aren’t looking at the result of accident or stupidity but deliberate actions. Which will likely have more and more unforeseen issues that eventually ruin everything for the planned and planners alike.

  22. And then of course it is always one-sided… Monica Lewinsky’s ex-boyfriend’s wife got away with deliberately mishandling classified information and destroying evidence under subpoena and she has a real shot at being president.
    If any little person did 1/10 of that they’d never see the outside of a prison.

  23. There was saying on picture on tumblr that still resonates from the mishmash of porn and SJWs on that site that some up perfectly the problem of “zero-defect” mentality. To paraphrase from memory: “Beware of the knight in shinning armor, for they have not tested their mettle”
    It seem like every part of our society is becoming “zero-defect” mentality. Speaking from personal experience, I try to become the perfect student for graduate school and failed in the process. Trying to become perfect teaches a man he must have all the features before he can proceed down a certain path in life. The path of perfect for every little thing is leading to society that can’t progress. Failure happens to everyone. Failure teaches us to strive over obstacles and defeats in order to become better than before. A society that loses this understanding is damning itself in oblivion.

    1. Perfection isn’t only internally enforced, it’s externally enforced. Gatekeepers or anyone who sits in judgment will find whatever flaws exist to deny progression. Ever have a performance review where because you lacked any actionable flaws they spun a positive into a negative? There’s always a way to find a negative. Always.
      This is what happens in permission based society. From conditioning starting as toddlers it’s permission this and permission that. Those gatekeepers find fault with those they don’t like or are jealous of or whatever. This perfection requirement masks the destruction of merit based society. Since nobody can be perfect everything becomes subjective.
      What is game after all? Short cutting the gatekeeper’s demand for perfection with subjective perception.

      1. Permission basing is targeted at men and is the ‘flipside of the coin’ of the enabling perogative aimed at females. A huddle of ‘businesswomen’ around a board table are an emotionally driven cat feud sling-fest of rubber band powered garter belts and other undergarment straps. Wear goggles. Permission is for the men to worry about.

      1. He’s not a threat – lispy, overweight and as exciting as wet toast. He won’t be defending the USA because he couldn’t waddle to the front line. I just looked up from my computer and this dough boy is on TV yapping about where he bought his sweater. He was going to wear a suit but he split the pants because he admittedly has gained so much weight. Yeah, let’s all aspire to this level.

    1. I hate to have to agree. If you deliberately craft yourself into something weak and stupid, nature will “take care” of you.

  24. Truer statements were never made. NASA, in going to the moon in the 60s, had BALLS of Titanium. The best estimate was a 1 in 3 chance of losing the Apollo 11 crew. Today? No way in fuck they’d fly that mission. Not until they had a 99.9% chance of not losing the crew – or at least had convinced themselves of that. NASA could not do man-moon-decade again simply because the nation has no sense of risk/reward.
    One sees it in the culture toward business, too. If I risk my money and time doing a startup, I’m EVIL in the eyes of many for getting rich. Never mind the risks I took; I’m a capitalist exploitative pig. The greater the risk, the greater the reward must be for people to take that risk. Money, space exploration, girls – it’s all the same rule.

    1. Back when even the airforce was manly.
      Hey what do you think about Musk’s statement that those interested in flying SpaceX’s Mars mission have to be ready to die?
      I think privatization was the only way to go, but will this guy really set up a Mars colony?
      Haha what if he made it all bitches out there?

      1. That’s subtle of him. He’s basically screening out women. Women, every last one of them, still hold the innately solid belief that the job of men is to face danger and die. Women don’t have this capacity except in very controlled environments where men are still around to save their asses.

        1. I agree wholeheartedly.
          Imagine a (wo)manned mission to mars.
          Would they manage to make planetfall and, if so, how far would they get in setting up a new colony?
          He should change the name of the company to SpaceY

  25. Spot on article.
    The antiseptic environment is destroying us not only socially with the SJWs and over-the-top PC rhetoric, but health wise as well as we’ve gotten away from ‘dirt’ and natural living.
    It’s like we are living in the movie ‘The Lion King’…unfortunately the part where Scar has taken control, the natural order is fucked, and the land is dying.
    Its long overdue for Simba to come home and fuck some shit up.

  26. It’s simple. Just look at the toys, movies and tv shows we grew up with and compare it with what todays boys have. No BB guns plus every cartoon these days is comedy. Even the remakes of oldschool action cartoons are turned into stupid comedies.
    It looks really bad for todays generation.

    1. There are shelves of bb guns and air rifles here. Where are you growing up man, England or something?

  27. The bureauschmucks infesting Canada Gov are taxing their military to death with red tape and bureaucratic zero tolerance shit jam. Bureaucratic zero tolerance shit jamming comes from the same hands that craft the numerous rigged and complicated tax scales that defy the laws of base 10 math. Good luck trying to pass the SAT math exam using the dubious ‘magic’ numbers that the tax codes claim are real figurable numbers and divisibles.
    Canada needs its own Kanuck Trump soon. The westerners, when we shake our fists at the fed, we also need to strive to make life hard for bureaucrats. They hide like cockroaches in plain sight. I’ve personally quit a couple of jobs that were intentionally being driven under and were being forcibly made unworkable by red tape and zero tolerance bullshit. The shit jamming they were doing was clear to see. You needed documented everything and rubber stamped and initialed everything and to top it off, the pay was reduced. They were trying to kill the job position and make employees so repulsed and hassled that most walked out and got no compensation for being quitters. Anyone who pushes rubber stamping and MORE paperwork when there was no need for paperwork beforehand needs to quickly have their ass stomped. NEEDLESS PAPERWORK IS THE DEVIL and the Devil does need his ass stomped does he not? Bureaucracy and bureaucrats are but one more fungus upon the west that needs to be scrubbed.

  28. “Afraid even to have sex with women.”
    This is me.
    I am so afraid if hiv and pregnancy that in last 11 years I had sex only once and after that I was visiting a psychiatrist and taking sedatives for a few months.
    I do not think I will find enough courage to have sex ever in my life.
    Enneagram type 6, that is why.

  29. This is such a crucial topic and touches on so much about life, current events, why some sports franchises are better than others, etc. This issue, along with accountability/personal responsibiilty (or lack their of), constitutes the vast majority of the ills that plague modern western societies and governments. But let’s focus on the topic at hand:
    Both of these ills though are the result of an overly litigious society. “I’ll kick your ass” has been replaced with “I’ll sue you”. Punishments no longer fit the crimes. You say something someone doesn’t like? You’re life is ruined.

  30. This risk averse culture is rife within the UK police. Unable to say no to some underclass drug addict who can’t sort their life out, in the fear that they may die,is generally the prevailing condition. This results in most of the working day running around after these people and ‘safeguarding’ them from themselves and others; rather than solving crime. I stopped giving a damn last year. I’m leaving soon. I’m recovering, getting my shit together and growing myself as a man again. I hated being risk averse and all the arse covering that goes with it. It’s time to build a tribe.

  31. I took many risks from 20’s on. traveling the world. creating businesses in a foreign country, Teaching myself many skills.
    Less prone to risk now, probably? due to age and comfort…
    However, seems by design. there is just not so much use for innovators, and risk takers….
    Art imitates life, shit our motto comes for the movie the Matrix. perhaps the movie “disclosure” with Demi Moore, and Michael Douglas was prescient. Character said to Douglas:
    “Women are smarter, and don’t play by the rules…they will just keep a few of us around for breeding”.
    Perhaps this happens at the creamy peak of every empire. However, pre-industrial age, men are/were need to fight of the barbarians.
    Now, maybe not?

  32. Something to think about in this regard:
    Theodore Dalrymple:
    —“In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is…in some small way to become evil oneself. One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.”—

  33. America is no longuer the first economical power in the world. The country is , in fact, bankrupted.
    USA are still a superpower because they are still the major military power (and because its curency is still the international currency…for now).
    If the ability to fight became secondary, if the US stops being feared, all the boggus green cash the Fed can produce won’t save you…

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