Sometimes neurotic women are idealized—“crazy in the head, crazy in bed” and all that. However, the reality is far less pleasant. One needn’t be very experienced to cross paths with a nut; they’re everywhere.
Note well, the intention isn’t about picking on people suffering from problems—it’s about keeping you safe. Getting involved with these types may lead to horrendous breakups, false accusations of harassment (or worse), holes poked in your condoms, attempts to provoke you into violence, or other creative ways to make your life a living hell.
What are “Cluster B” personality disorders?
There are dozens of ways to be a nut, but the high-functioning ones aren’t always immediately obvious. Particularly concerning is the DSM-IV’s Axis II Cluster B personality disorder spectrum. (Yes, men can have these afflictions too. They thrive in “kiss up / kick down” corporate environments. Ever had a manager like that?) These conditions, and their approximate equivalent colloquialisms, are:
- Histrionic personality disorder—“attention harlot”
- Borderline personality disorder—“bunny boiler”
- Narcissistic personality disorder—“drama queen”
- Antisocial personality disorder—“psycho”
These are syndromes that must include a minimum number of symptoms to meet a clinical diagnosis. However, even a “merely flaky” subclinical type might mean a girlfriend who becomes a royal pain in the ass once she’s revealed her true self. It only gets worse from there.
Can they be vivacious and exuberant? Certainly! Superficial charm is one of the possible defining characteristics. This is especially so on the beginning, before you know their other side. Can they control their behavior? Absolutely! They’ll perform Oscar-worthy method acting for anyone useful to them: social workers, attorneys, police, etc. However, although many have a strong fear of abandonment, they don’t have the sense to treat their partners decently. Don’t let that be you.
Borderline personality disorder cases are especially infamous for epic trouble. They’ll frequently latch onto Nice Guys, exploiting their protective instincts. Also, they’re drawn to violent egomaniacs with narcissistic personality disorder to get their Stockholm Syndrome funsies. (It’s a common malfunction.) The very worst will alternate between the two for the full meal deal: “exciting” knuckleheads for sex and fisticuffs, and chumps to rescue them from their drama.
All that said, beware if you notice multiple instances of the following…
1. Mood swings
This is the classic sign of bipolar disorder. Still, Cluster B cases also can suffer extreme mood swings: exuberant giddiness, crushing depression, or rage. If someone’s emotions commonly resemble a roller coaster ride, beware.
Green light: Any moodiness on her part is situational and appropriate, or doesn’t exceed ordinary “lunar phase” events.
2. Daddy issues
Sigmund Freud had a point about bad parenting leading to bad outcomes. Screwed-up families have become the norm because of overworked parents, the rampant divorce industry, and normalization of single motherhood. (Mom’s revolving door of boyfriends aren’t the best substitute.) How people are raised isn’t their fault, of course. Still, childhood trauma is a leading cause of these disorders.
Green light: She has healthy family relationships.
3. Constant Shit Tests
During the “getting to know you” part of a normal relationship, Shit Tests are fairly typical, but should decrease later. However, an unending barrage of little provocations is excessive, and quite annoying. Learn how to hold frame, or you’re doomed.
Green light: Shit Tests become rare after you’re a steady couple.
4. DEFCON1 arguments
If you’re with a Cluster B case, your romance begins seeming too good to be true. However, an epic blowup typically happens around the one month mark. You’re walking on clouds, then suddenly caught off guard and crouching in the fallout shelter.
How you handle it in the beginning sets important precedents. Obviously, supplication would be the wrong move. Your only hope of surviving with your wits intact is steadfastly explaining that you don’t tolerate “50 Shades of Crazy” stuff. They thrive on attention, so staying calm is more effective than shouting back.
Green light: No total meltdowns occur by three months.
5. Self-harm
Many will have histories of suicidal ideation, or even attempts. The “circle with semicolon” wrist tattoo has become a trendy reminder. It’s tragic that things get to this point, and I really do feel for them. Still, be aware that their problems are beyond your ability to fix.
Cutting is another tipoff; deliberately slicing one’s skin is abnormal. Beware of multiple small, straight scars in the same location, most frequently the arms. Consider even a few to be a red flag. Having a face full of ironmongery might indicate problems too.
Green light: She isn’t morbidly inclined and she respects her body.
6. Abuse history
Terrible things can happen to people through no fault of their own. Really, it makes me sick. However, if someone brings up past trauma very early on, perhaps she’s playing the victim card to exploit your sympathy.
Normal people might discuss that stuff eventually, but certainly not immediately. Have you ever used a Coach Badtouch story as a pickup routine, or one about how your mother neglected you? I didn’t think so.
Green light: She doesn’t use abuse stories as a first date conversation topic.
7. Sleeping around
Impulsive thrill-seeking and desire for attention can cause well above average mileage. Promiscuity is another possible clinically-defining characteristic. Don’t consider it advantageous; you could still get Friend Zoned.
Green light: She’s not the town bicycle.
8. Unstable relationships
Does she describe all her exes as abusive? If it’s not an occasional lapse in her judgment and good taste, perhaps she goes for dirtbags, not learning from her mistakes. Alternatively, many will consider someone either wonderful or horrible—with no middle ground—and their opinion frequently changes.
Even if she’s creatively overstating the facts, imagine her describing you as another abuser to the next sucker. She’ll probably believe her fabrications; they have highly selective memories.
Green light: She seldom has horrendous breakups.
9. Constant need for excitement
For these types, boredom is nearly torture. Clown game will work great with them, but maintaining a long-term stream of entertainment is impractical. If they can’t get their excitement fix, they’ll create drama. They do that masterfully.
Green light: She doesn’t expect constant life in the fast lane.
10. Unstable work history and finances
Although nobody gets overjoyed processing TPS reports forty hours a week, disdain for boring work goes deeper for Cluster B cases. Sometimes they consider normal jobs “beneath” them. Despite that, impulsiveness can lead to shopaholic retail therapy.
If you’re a regular working stiff, they might regard you as inferior. Still, they’ll cut you some slack if your steady income stream bails them out of their messes and helps maintain their thrill-a-minute lifestyle.
Green light: She’s industrious, lives within her means, gets along with her colleagues, doesn’t create workplace drama, and doesn’t disparage honest jobs.
Conclusion
Fortunately, once you’ve weeded out the flakes and outright crazies, the rest are pretty solid. There are still plenty of decent women who’ll treat you right and be real with you. Perhaps a nightclub full of drunks isn’t the most target-rich environment for relationship-material ladies. Likewise, methadone clinics aren’t great places for running daygame if you want a keeper.
Read More: Don’t Date Girls With Borderline Personality Disorder
Describes my ex when I was 25 to a T. Really glad to have escaped that nightmare quickly. Excellent list. The damage feminism has caused to both sexes cannot be understated.
WARNING SIGNS
1. Her parents went through an ugly divorce and her mother screwed her father in court. This is a girl who is both cynical about relations between the sexes and also informed on how to screw men legally with uncertain feelings about her father.
2. Early hardcore drug history. These are the girls who got into heroin or cocaine in their early teens and went to rehab. Beware the wild child; she probably engaged in petty crime and prostitution.
3. Former strippers. Again, they have been dirt bags. Their surface civility is a veneer; they are career petty criminals at heart.
4. Girls who are loners with no close circle of female friends.
5. Cops.
@Boner
#5. Cops? Please explain.
Dating them can be a mistake. Same with strippers. They are both high-stress occupations and these women have baggage.
@ DB
Any female in a position of ‘authority’ would be a problem, IMO.
Because law enforcement (military, construction, trucking) has always been an outspokenly male domain. These occupations do not attract healthy feminine women. Just look at their physiognomy.
http://media.pennlive.com/midstate_impact/photo/11965179-large.jpg
Manly women who want to do a mans job for the power and control?
It sure isn’t the money.
You don’t think they MIGHT be a bad choice?
Female cops…absolutely can confirm. They are unequivocally broken. Also broken: The female ex-partners of cops. If you’re dating a girl whose ex is a cop, walk away fast. They are ALL damaged and very many have been knocked about…cops beat their wives FAR more than is acknowledged.
Man you would think you shouldn’t even have to list this shit its all so obvious imo – I guess I just come from a normal upbringing and decent family, but this shit is like not just a ‘warning’ sign, it means theyre a full blown fuckup
6. Women who keep cats.
@Dick, I don’t always agree with your comments, but you killed this one. Spot f**king on !
Top notch excellent RoK article. Needs to be printed off and framed for all young men out there. This old broad can tell you about the number of men who end up in the back of the jail cell with that “what the fuck happened” look on their faces. The biggest mistake EVER! is moving in early with these moon bat lunatics. Sudden the banshee is within your doors.
Recommended reading/viewing: EVERY link in this article; Tom Leykis; Patrice O’Neal. Paul Elam has vids on how to spot a crazy borderline.
I had a regular for 3 years who met most of the points listed above. The only reason I kept coming back for more was her looks (a legitimate 10). I was an idiot. Thankfully I never landed in jail because of her, but have had security escort me out of bars, clubs, and hotel rooms due to her rantings and bizarre accusations. The crazy hooker even once came at me with a broken wine glass. We always “made up” after these incidents. I finally broke off contact with her last summer after she pulled some crap that was the “last straw” for me. And also after she turned 30…I suppose that made it easier.
With strippers and ex-addicts the petty criminality is always below the surface. Close to it actually. They’re formative years involved stealing, conning, lack of remorse, being abused by males. They are never truly reformed.
@Boner
Abused by males? Definitely abused by female(s) earlier in life in the form of mommy dearest. Equality. Must blame equally.
She’s a “hooker” for pete’s sake. Is that not telltale enough of what kind of women you are dealing with?
I’ve been dealing with them for 32 years.
Yeah, they all have problems to some degree.
But this one took the cake.
I guess it just didn’t surprise me all that much that hookers are somewhat bonkers.
I’d rather fuck Clinton than this little brainless ugliness called Chloe Moretz.
At least I can tell than I fucked a devil herself.
Really???
Who cares about brains when it comes to getting laid?
If you don’t like Chloe’s face, you can at least turn her over and look at her 20 y/o ass. But Shrillary? There’s just no way.
Lol,
Fucking Hillary is not about sex, it’s about legacy lol
I keep this in my bathroom
http://www.viralthread.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/BMTP6-Human-Element-550.jpg
You sound like you subconsciously respect Clinton by calling Chloe ‘brainless’ – its as if you’re comparing the two and implying Clinton is smart or something….Would I do a milf over a young hottie, maybe, but the milf would have to be pretty hot and sultry…but Clinton though? That’s like not even worth joking about its so gross
“At least I can tell than I fucked a devil herself.”
LOL! Good one! 🙂
I bet Hillary could give you the fuck of your lifetime if she wanted to.
“I fucked Hillary’s mother a few times and hoo boy did the bitch have a firm succulent ass. Looking at Hillary, I can tell that slut would be able twerk her buttocks on my cock all the same” – Ghandi.
Hey Everybody!
Please finish this sentence..
Chloe Moretz, like most of the leads in Hollywood, is a TRANSGENDE……
“Cutting is another tipoff; deliberately slicing one’s skin is abnormal.”
I suspect that Ayn Rand suffered from borderline personality disorder from the way she wrote her personality into the female character Dominique Francon in “The Fountainhead.” Dominique cuts herself with a shard of glass in one scene in that novel.
If I recall correctly, there was a part-dramatic, part plot-relevant reason; she staged an accident to create a diversion or something. Still, there was a sort of dom/sub vibe with her and Hank. Rand saw that as a natural male/female polarity; kind of Red Pilled in a way. She did say that Dominique represented a dark version of herself.
As for Rand’s real life, I doubt she was into self-harm. The worst that happened with her was more or less some garden-variety polyamory drama. She was dating the husband (Nathaniel Branden, IIRC) of one of her friends. After everyone had gone their separate ways and he found someone else, she wanted him back. However, he wasn’t down for that, and things got pretty ugly.
Rand smoked heavily, ate a poor diet and tweaked on amphetamines. Those are arguably self-harming habits.
I wouldn’t recommend those things, of course. Still, back in the 1970s, vices like that were a lot more accepted. The drinking age was 18 and many thought pot legalization was right around the corner. Even coke was merely naughty and glamorous. For those who *really* wanted to make a point of burning out (beyond plain old alcoholism), heroin or PCP was the way to go.
There was a health food craze, but it was considered another of the many oddball 1970s fads, and eventually it went mostly dormant for a couple decades. Even by the 1980s, there was candy made to look like cigarettes, vending machines sold cigs just like soda pop, and a couple of times when I was 13, I bought tobacco with absolutely no hassle. Back then, many truckers were popping “reds” like they sip energy drinks these days. (Some still go for hard uppers, but they’re in deep doo-doo if they get caught.)
Anyway, “cutting” didn’t get popular until the late 1990s – I remember all that too. This (along with promoting anorexia and bulimia) was one of the first instances of lunacy being spread on the Internet by angsty teenagers with too many First World problems. These days, changing your gender is another dumb fad that got even bigger than all that.
“Green light: She’s industrious, lives within her means, gets along with her colleagues, doesn’t create workplace drama, and doesn’t disparage honest jobs.”
You might want to check your woman’s FICO score. A screwed-up woman could handle her money and credit carefully, of course, so a good FICO score doesn’t necessarily vouch for sanity. But a bad FICO score signals a woman with a high time preference, a lack of self-discipline and probably some other problems.
Great article. If you want some trouble, make sure you date a girl like this.
That last photo was horrendously disgusting. What’s wrong with them, to take such a photo?
No, it was EPIC. They say a picture is worth a 1000 words, that one definitely is.
It basically is a visual representation of what is in their pants. “Look you can have this hotdog down a hallway old dried up doughnut or this fat pushed up tight in the middle one”. Make a choice. LOL, it is classic…
they’re clintons, thats what!
why are the craziest women, the better in beds ?
Can a sane girl do some wild crazy shit in bed like the craziest ones too ? DO they exist really ? Or are they condemned to be terribly boring in bed in the long run ?
I wonder this really in this point of my life.
I can only comment from the point of using professionals, but the crazy ones aren’t always the “best”. The ones who do the most in bed, for some reason, are the Asians. And although there are exceptions, they are usually pretty level headed, especially when compared to the American pros. Even the Russians are more sane than the American ones. Perhaps because the foreigners are more “goal oriented”? Not sure, but for some reason American escorts are the ones with the most emotional/mental issues, IMO.
I’ve never done an American …… but Asians, I’ve had plenty in the last 10 years of living here and I like crazy. White women are good for nothing.
Understood.
From my point of view, there are two types of crazy.
1) A girl putting her tongue where a girl’s tongue does not necessarily belong crazy.
2) Trying to slash you with a sharp object crazy.
(1) is OK
(2) is not so OK
ALL the women in Asia I’ve spent more than a night with have been a bit keen with knives or machetes. Took me a year to convince the one I married not to carry a switchblade as big as her arm around in the handbag. The former gf got in a temper one night, and was chasing me round the garden waving a machete …….. she was topless at the time …… aaahhh I’ve got some good (and original) memories from these girls.
@ JD
“The former gf got in a temper one night, and was chasing me round the garden waving a machete …….. she was topless at the time …… aaahhh I’ve got some good (and original) memories from these girls.”
Hahahahahaha!!!!!
@ JD
That even better than the 10 who came at me with the broken glass!
I don’t think the stereotype is especially valid. It’s true that lacking inhibitions often comes with the territory, which might contribute to that reputation.
A couple of my nuttier exes were pretty wild. However, there was another who would get extremely turned on, yet she was basically a pillow princess. Then there was a might-have-been who suddenly got an extreme case of LMR. (I backed off immediately, of course, wondering what the hell just happened.) I’ve observed that normal women can be great lovers, so don’t get discouraged.
The ‘Green light’ portion’s are most appreciated – more often than not an article is posted on here with no sense of direction so always nice to see at least an effort being made for enlightenment…I can’t say I 100% agree with everything here, but not bad for the most part
If I have to write about bad news (which is rather frequently) I try to conclude with an upside, or something that can be done about it. Solutions aren’t always easy, but presenting a way forward is better than ending on a downer.
Solid article — nailed it with a compactness of words. I think I’ve dealt with every combination in the Axis II Cluster B personality disorder spectrum, and then some. At the end of a few of these relationships, it becomes so overly-dramataized and unstable I’ve found myself earnestly laughing through the phrase ” Just how LOW can you go?!” Clearly I need to work on my screening skills. You go, girls, keep finding that (cough-cough) “empowerment” in your emotional breakdowns…you’ll show ’em! ;^)
“DEFCON1 arguments,” full of sound and fury yet signifying nothing (tip of the hat to Bill Shakespeare), almost always get the “stoic wall of ice” reaction, a few raised eyebrows, and a mellow smirk. If they leave, they leave. Boundaries defined. NEXT.
Screening is certainly a good idea. If one slips through the radar, tight frame and handling the Shit Tests correctly is essential. (Think of a little boy throwing a tantrum. Handling it improperly will show him that tantrums get him what he wants.) I wish I’d known about all that long ago.
The proper way to deal with girls outlined in this article can be summed up in one word: “NEXT”.
So matter how solid your frame and how deep your redpill, she will make your life a living hell, with death coming as a welcome relief. Worse still, if you have kids, genetics will ensure your legacy inherits at least half those crazy genes.
Just don’t do it.
Been there done that. I got busted by police and almost had my life ruined. A BPD girl I knew had a bunch of floaters who thought she was the kindest person they’d known, and when I started getting annoyed and telling them that this angel was actually a drug-addicted homewrecker who frequented sex clubs I was called paranoid and spiteful.
These vampires are not the product of an abusive environment. It’s hard coded into their DNA, which then produces the dysfunctional environments they grow up in. The girl was perfect on the surface, very attractive and well spoken, got into a top professional school and was an award winning writer. But underneath was a hollowed out shell of a human, who was either consciously or unconsciously manipulative and filled with animalistic rage.
The way they get your guard down is to make you feel sorry for them. Tell you the worst things imaginable – that they were raped as children by a relative and that everyone since has treated them awfully. If you manage to stick around long around and put the pieces together you find out that the stories don’t match up. These are just fictions of their mind. When they see they can no longer play the eternal victim with you then they flee and seek a new supply line.
I can’t conclude that they are intentionally manipulative, so in some sense it is a great tragedy that they were born with. But run like hell when you get within a 10 feet radius of one. Or at least have the foreknowledge and armor before you encounter one. You literally have to see and experience it to know what its all about, and the best I can do is prepare you somewhat before they drive a dagger through your heart.
However, don’t pity them. There is a saying when it comes to BPD. You will much sooner put a bullet through your head than they ever will. Their suicidal gestures are more of a pathological attention-seeking scheme than a genuine desire to end their life. At least until they thoughtlessly take it too far.
11. She is not religious.
If girl doesn’t read scripture/go to church, preferably with her family then you can boldly kiss your dream about a good girlfriend/wife goodbye.
Girls from non-religious families are likely to end up promiscuous. Especially in West.
Ok, at in East too. Look at Russians or Ukrainians.
It should be a major religion that glorifies patriarchal values.
Kombucha drinks, Castaneda, SJW meditation clubs, and other “spiritual” bullshit have nothing to do with it.
You are 100% spot on right. Great points.
11. She smokes. Implies she is mentally weak.
I can spot crazy with one sign……Vagina. End of story. the double XX chromosome that determines the childs s3x is the redundancy that creates their genetic mental illness.
you know what comes from the Y chromosome in males? Sanity.
That last photo is absolutely hysterical.
Here’s another one: She’s a radical feminist.
O.K, that may not necessarily be a mental disorder, but it’s every bit as bad as one. One of the worst in fact.
Great article for the not “quite experienced” man who has yet to go down relationship HELL before he learns this stuff!! I had my own “run-in” with a confirmed “Narcissistic Personality Disorder” and it wasn’t clearly made known to me until her court-ordered analysis! (Long-story!) But the THING that REALLY made me “overlook it” was theGREAT Sex we had… so we were sort of “addicted” to each other, and it wasn’t until she was actually “put away” for about 6 months that our “spell” was broken, but at least I survived relatively unscathed… thank God, I never married her!! I STILL have that psychological report to this day and keep it as a reminder of what can “lurk” under the facade of a very sexy and Fun girl!! But WHAT a rollercoaster!! OMG! Who NEEDS it!??
You know that impossible-to-resist feeling when
a girl is deliberately spread eagle for you?
That’s what she feels about you.
Your very self-worth is like a
hymen begging for her to pop it.
Yup, bingo! (Pay heed here, young’uns!) Was with (for 8 years) a hot (as in “hawt”) woman who was raised by a clinical psychopath. After some sh*t-testing chain-yanking, take it with a grain of salt and ask “Are you done yet?”