There isn’t much to desire about getting old. Your energy decreases, your bones become as brittle as glass, your looks fade, and your strength leaves you more and more each year. Rumors even say your boners get weaker. Yikes. No thanks.
The only benefit old people seem to have is wisdom. They learn how to approach life with less resistance and more freedom than younger people tend to. Their wisdom helps them cope with their disadvantages and sometimes makes them even happier than they were in their youth.
What if we had this same wisdom while we were still young? What if we had years to apply the principles that would keep us happy and successful beyond mere circumstances?
I’m still a relatively young lad myself, however, through facing many trials early in life and reading books since roughly five days after leaving the womb, I have been lucky enough to gather wisdom that helps me cut through most of life’s bullshit.
I want to share it with you before your hair greys, your balls touch your knees, and it is too late to benefit from. Here are four principles and ideas that are sure to change the trajectory of your life…
1. Discipline Is Divine
Every choice, whether good or bad, adds up in the long run. The sooner you start making the right choices, the younger you will be when you start to reap the rewards of those same choices.
My girlfriend provides me with a constant reminder of this. When we started dating, we were in high school. She worked at McDonald’s picking up every extra shift she could get. Even though her paychecks were laughable compared to today, she managed to save a good chunk of money.
As she got older, she had a great work ethic and good saving skills. She worked hard, avoided the parties, and continued to put a little money in her bank day after day, year after year.
The night before writing this, she drove us to the BMW dealership—in her car which was already nicer than mine—and bought a brand new BMW without batting an eyelash. And she’s 24… in October! Maybe she will be buying a jet on her 34th birthday. I hope I’m around for that.
If you live your life with discipline, if you show up, do the work and avoid the obvious setbacks, you really can have whatever you want in life. As Socrates put it, “an undisciplined life is an insane life.”
2. Stop Blaming Other People For Your Problems
Here’s some wisdom for you: if you’ve got a problem, take care of it yourself. You can point fingers all you want, but blaming someone else for your problems won’t change a damn thing.
Have you ever noticed how there are two kinds of old people: the miserable ones and the extremely happy ones?
Well, the miserable old people always seem to be the ones who blame others for their misfortune. If they don’t have someone direct to blame, their misfortune is the government’s fault, the economy’s fault, and so on.
Listen up, this is important: your life is yours and you are the only one who can change it.
If you are underpaid, it isn’t your bosses fault. It’s your fault for not getting a new job or building new skills that would increase your value as an employee. If your relationship sucks, it isn’t your partner’s fault, it is yours: after all, it only takes one person to end an argument.
Take responsibility for your life unless you want to be the old guy who has 70 years worth of life to complain about and not a soul who gives a shit to listen.
3. Learn How To Sell
“Everything in life is a sale and everything you want is a commission.” – Grant Cardone
Selling is the world’s most profitable profession. As they say, “wages will make you a living but profits will make you a killing.”
If you ever plan to retire before you’re so old you have to ask your wife what your PIN is again, you need to learn how to sell.
Furthermore, selling is life’s premier skill. When you become good at selling, you can sell your ideas to others (persuasion), you can sell girls on why you are better than the competition (game), you can sell yourself on your good qualities (confidence), you can sell yourself on your commitments (discipline), and you can sell others your products (get rich).
Ultimately, when you become good at selling, life becomes a big game.
4. Time Is An Illusion
Have you ever noticed that every time you talk to an old person, they love telling you about when they were your age? They can’t remember if they took their meds or not this morning, so how the hell do they remember what life was like 40 years ago? Here’s why: Because time flies. Because time is only real if you believe it to be.
View time objectively. Know that, someday soon, you are going to be old as well. You can be old with a legacy and a story worth telling, or you can be like most others, realizing life slipped you by and you blew your one shot.
Using your newfound wisdom and perspective of time, start investing your time today, because it is going to be gone tomorrow.
In Conclusion
Thanks to the knowledge passed down through books and the Internet, you now have the wisdom to capitalize on your youth. Don’t wait until you are old to experience the freedom and change these principles provide.
Use your time to build new skills and disciplines and watch as your aging process becomes both graceful and fruitful. Make sure that, when the time comes, you are the old guy whose life story captivates others, not pushes them away.
Read More: 10 Lessons That Ancient Egyptian Wisdom Taught Its Young Men
Buying a brand new car from the dealership is a terrible investment (unless you’re planning on keeping the thing for 85 years wherein its value might begin a slow progression upwards). A car depreciates in value the second you drive it off the lot and every time you put a click on it. However the money saving discipline is very important and I agree. That’s where there’s a bit of dissonance for me; saving money only to blow it on a status symbol. There are always better places to spend/invest your hard-earned money.
Agree 100%. Buying a luxury vehicle to me is a sign of character weakness, lack of understanding ROI, and a smart investment in cryptocurrency in the price differential between buying a nice new Corolla or Civic (the two best cars for the money out there) versus a brand new BMW could see you become a cryptomillionaire in no time with just a few smart trades.
“There isn’t much to desire about getting old. Your energy decreases, your bones become as brittle as glass, your looks fade, and your strength leaves you more and more each year. Rumors even say your boners get weaker. Yikes. No thanks.”
At 62, I can run/hike/cycle faster and longer than any time previously in my life.
Still waiting to start getting weaker ………. maybe it’s just a nasty rumour spread by young people.
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At 62 if you run/hike/cycle faster than at any other point in your life, that’s pretty worrisome.
Some people start with fitness later in life. Nothing wrong with that.
Yeah, I suppose if you run/hike/cycle faster at 62, you DIDN’T run/hike/cycle previously.
Burton,
Now I’m retired I have much more time to train. Previously my life was 60 hours/week office, commute 15 hours/week then mostly sleeping with a bit of family time. I have way more time for me now.
@John Dodds retiring must be nice.
JOHN
No, its massive chain-smoking. Nobody smokes anymore, or if they do they smoke a few a day. I’ve smoked off and on.
Twenty, thirty years ago everybody smoked cigarettes and they smoked 2,3,4 packs per day. So people born in 1920-1935 died young.
There are a few Cannabis-addled madmen like George Michael who smoked 20 spliffs per day but not many.
JOHN
Part of traveling keeps young through sheer adaptation.
When you spend your entire life in one shitty place and your wife divorces you and your one daughter grows up to be a lesbian and your country turns into a backwater run by a syndicate of Quasi-Marxist Muslims than yes, you will age badly.
You have to worry about it.
the very last people to be saying anything about getting old, are those flapping yaps that are NOT old. As if the any younger generations have a clue beside any story from people who were old and told them what its like or post mortem storys shared by family due to living the experience. if an under 40 person says anything relating to age related physical degeneration, they should be ridiculed for being unexperienced save watching an older relative go, and prefacing their comments with that fact, FIRST.
Canadian men, the weakest men in the world bar none. The Canadian cuck writer of this story is admitting to living with a woman who is his master. At 24, you have nothing to tell anyone. It’s only a matter of time before your girlfriend trades up.
JOHN
What is a 24 year old going to brag to anyone? I just graduated from university and finally found a woman who will give me steady sex? I’ve lived in the same city my entire life and slept with 3 girls during my time on earth?
Dick,
The writer of this story is still with his high school sweetheart, I’m guessing he’s only ever had sex with her. The reverse may not be true.
While a 24 year old won’t have any experience in some things, they can have much more experience in something they have put time in and since there’s an infinite number of hobbies and interests, the chances are that he can tell you things that most 60 year olds do not have a clue about.
24 is old enough to be a physician, for example, if he got into medical school very early and did not have any major setbacks. Does the average 60 year old know more about medicine than a mid 20’s doctor?
This is not a personal jab at you but when I see people trying to establish dominance on the basis of age, I have to wonder if they are insecure about their actual accomplishments and have to rely on cosmetic characteristics or unalterable and unfair comparisons to protect their egos.
When my father dies, I’ll probably be well into my 50’s and I’d prefer the priest in his funeral to be close to my age at the time as opposed to under 30 but not being a priest myself, I would not consider my knowledge of that field better than someone who graduated from a theological university as a pup.
If we put our egos aside, we can learn something from anyone: including retards and children but we have to know what to look for and how and not try to force that learning into our frame.
DG1985
Doctors ain’t that special, I live in a country where I can buy any drug I can name at the pharmacy. You’re right, I can’t fix accident trauma on myself, I need another pair of hands for the stitching. But I think most intelligent people could do as well as their local doctor, given the chance. Doctor worship is a feature of America (and the white west), where nobody else is allowed to compete by law. Essentially a Union closed shop.
Dick,
Many of us older guys, our former kids are gone with the wife. No need to worry, you can just walk away and live the live you want, where you want. Most of us are smart enough to avoid the child maintenance trap.
PS. Your wife should NEVER know your PIN, you can’t trust her AWALT.
Burton- Once knew a guy in auto parts who thought buying new cars was virtually immoral. He had the gift of gab so even worked selling cars once. Very briefly. Just could not stand it.
Problems With This Article
A: “The night before writing this, she drove us to the BMW dealership—in her car which was already nicer than mine—and bought a brand new BMW without batting an eyelash. And she’s 24… in October! Maybe she will be buying a jet on her 34th birthday. I hope I’m around for that.”
Luxury vehicles are one of the biggest wastes of money there is. They lose 20% of their value the instant you drive it off the lot, they are more expensive to replace or fix parts, insurance is higher, and yet you can only drive them as fast as anyone else.
B: “If your relationship sucks, it isn’t your partner’s fault, it is yours: after all, it only takes one person to end an argument.”
Nope. Sometimes it really is your partners fault. A new mindset of blaming yourself for every letdown in life is equally as destructive as blaming others.
C: “If you are underpaid, it isn’t your bosses fault. It’s your fault for not getting a new job or building new skills that would increase your value as an employee.”
Lots of people train for new jobs, and don’t get hired at all because of overcompetition or because they can’t fit some ridiculous “must have 1 year of hotel experience” to get a braindead job replacing the Snickers as in an in-room minibar attendant at Holiday Inn.
Sometimes it really is OTHERS fault for selling expensive training courses and then demand 3 years of experience or whatever to even get your first job. This goes for a lot of truck drivers getting an expensive CDL and then can’t get hired.
D: “Learn How To Sell”
An overemphasis on selling is what makes the United States such a cumbersome and spiritually degrading place to live, and gives us our irritating reputation for shady hucksters who either constantly lie or put up a huge front with their lambo’s in the garage or monthly income levels to try and make you jealous (Tai Lopez, Kyle Trouble, etc.)
Eating at US restaurants is so annoying because the waiter or barstaff is constantly trying to upsell you desserts, drinks, you name it because of the tipping culture and lack of a livable base wage unlike just about every other western nation.
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So well meaning advice here don’t get me wrong, but a lot of shit out there IS OTHER PEOPLE’s fault. Chin up guys. You rock, and other people suck (sometimes).
REALITY
When I was a young man in Michigan working my way through college in various occupations the people who were there for life acted like the stake of the planet hinged on their performance and being employed there was the greatest thing in the world.
It isn’t. One day you leave the business and it makes no difference whether you worked there for a week and got fired or put in 100% for 20 years. Nobody will give a fat rat’s ass. To the owners of the business you are just dicks, tits and asses who spin a wheel to fulfill your basic needs of food, shelter and drugs/alcohol/reproduction. You leave and a week later you do not mean shit to them. So you might as well be self-employed.
Well said. Now at 60, I wish I would have embraced your philosophy on work years ago. When I was 28, I quit a toxic job with Union Carbide after 3 years of hell. Back in the day, I felt some relief, and some guilt by quitting. An old millwright told me something I’ll always remember. He said to stick my fist in a bucket of water, then withdraw it. He asked me if it would leave an indention or mark. I told him no. He told me that was how much Union Carbide cared about me! I would submit that most employers I’ve had would even forget you ever existed in less than a week. More like a few hours, literally! Been there, done that, seen it done to others first hand.
Exactly ! Learned that the hard way too. In one of my previous jobs, I basically ran the place. New management just set me out the door because financial reasons. They had to put 2 dudes in to replace me. Lesson learnt, don’t go overboard working for someone else. You will not get a thank you for all the time you spend and abuse you put on yourself.
“The night before writing this, she drove us to the BMW dealership—in her car which was already nicer than mine—and bought a brand new BMW without batting an eyelash. And she’s 24… in October! Maybe she will be buying a jet on her 34th birthday. I hope I’m around for that.”
Let’s start what is wrong with this article, the author has yet to take the red pill and wants to give red pill advice. If your girlfriend works every shift at her minimum wage job and runs out with everything she has saved to buy a BMW she is terrible with money, just like every other woman out there. Not only is the car an awful financial investment that will be worth peanuts in a few years, on her salary she probably won’t be able to afford the maintenance involved to keep it in good condition.
“Maybe she will be buying a jet on her 34th birthday. I hope I’m around for that.”
I actually laughed out loud at that part, it’s a statement with a smell of desperation in it. If you are still with her at 34 you should hope she is being a good mother to your kids and you have financial freedom at that age. Relying on her and letting her lead is a recipe for disaster, I hope you learn that sooner than later.
Discipline is an amazing thing. And it is used so sparingly. Time really does fly and as you stated, it is what you make it. Seize the day and maximize yourself every single day.
OT; https://youtu.be/Y6gGpZJbct4
“Time Flies”
I’m amazed that most of the experiences I relate on this blog occurred in the 90’s and turn-of-the-millennium. It is hard to believe that Clinton is not still in office and I am now 44 and not 20.
What is surprising is that Gen Y, in some ways, backslid. Trends that started in the 1990’s (Tattoos, PC, piercings) have now reached their nth degree of absurdity. Gen Y did not INVENT much of anything-trends that started when Clinton took office have now reached their final idiocy stage.
In a way, it is as if the 1990’s lasted 25 years from the day Clinton was elected to the day his wife was not elected.
A luxury vehicle at 24 is part of a person’s wardrobe. I wouldn’t get hung up on it being an investment or not. Also, a BMW is a particular car that MUST BE BOUGHT NEW because a used BMW out of warranty is a moneypit and a terrible purchase.
Amen. I foolish bought two used five series BMWs in my day. I ended up spending more on repairs than I paid for the vehicles. Went back to Jeeps, and have never been happier. I call BMW “Break My Wallet”.
ADVICE TO YOUNG MALES
No job you hold at 22 is going to make a shit anyhow. Out of the variety of jobs you hold as a young man, maybe 1 or 2 will bring accomplishments for your resume. No blue-collar job unless it is in the trades (Plumber, electrician) makes a single shit at all.
If you have a kid under 22 with no college degree you are a stone fool.
You may hate globalization but in this world townies are at the mercy of the trans-national. Point blank. Work overseas for a spell at least to grasp how little “being a member of the community” actually makes a shit to the subset of people who actually run things. They do not give a shit about community.
I was born a townie and being a townie is stupid. Nobody cares if your city collapses into a ghost town and your property is not worth jack because the economy shifted or Section 8 Housing sprang up down the block. The financial centers of power in New York or Geneva do not give a fuck.
Start traveling young.
Same troll, different name.
Follow this dude’s advice if you want to end up broke, drunk, and decrepit, drilling ladybois in some far flung tropical dungheap.
yep.
almost like the trolls have some type of identical script, and political agenda….
SIR LEE
I have no political agenda.
Sadly, Hong Kong and Dubai are not the dung heaps. The US has internal second worlds now.
Plus, it is warmer and there is more than one club to meet women in.
But you go ahead and sit in the same place with people you went to kindergarten with.
Dick,
Sorry to disagree, but Islamic countries aren’t much fun, don’t like them, don’t want to live in them.Dubai, Oman, UAE ….. you can keep ’em.
Singapore, not that looks like a fun place …. Orchid Towers and the ‘Naughty Girl Club’, I’m on my way.
Carpe Diem…..the saying was probably more persuasive before Captain My Captain Robin Williams topped himself…but no, it stills stands
Solid article bro, I’m giving this one an A+
Self discipline is the gasoline in the engine, without it nothing is possible, with it anything is possible. Discipline yourself from a young age or else someone else will take control of your affairs and you will be used for their ends.
For the haters, a car is never a tangible investment. All cars depreciate except for rare classics. Buying a European car when you are in your twenties is a fine idea if you are doing it as an investment in your personal image, to make better money. This only applies if you are in sales or business. Nine to five chumps are better off with their Hyundais. If you have ever showed up to close a deal with the big boys and been spotted climbing out of your beat up jap wagon, you know what I’m talking about. Vulgar displays of wealth can put you in the dominant seat at many negotiations. However, I feel strongly that women should not drive luxury automobiles unless they are from an extremely affluent family, as it sends the wrong message. A man should drive an Audi, BMW, Mercedes, Porsche, Jaguar or Range Rover if he’s not going to drive a Ford pickup truck.
As for sales you are spot on. Sales work will not only make a man out of you by toughening you up against rejection, it will also help you figure out how the world works. How to shape things to your will and persuade others to follow you. These skills turn you into an unstoppable killer when applied to gaming women and making money alike. Sales is the lifeblood of small business entrepreneurship, which is the most feasible path to financial independence for young men today.
I would add to the article that young men are much better served by working hard throughout their twenties to put themselves in position for their thirties, instead of screwing off in their twenties and trying to make up for it later. Most people get this backward, and society encourages it because it makes losers out of you. Don’t fall for the trap. Don’t “travel, have fun and find yourself” in your twenties. No. you use it to lay the foundations of empire. Few will follow this advice but those who do are richly rewarded.
“A man should drive an Audi, BMW, Mercedes, Porsche, Jaguar or Range Rover if he’s not going to drive a Ford pickup truck.”
At some point in time you mixed success and worldly image together. You want to talk about traps? If you buy any one of those sportscars you mentioned, you fell right into one. Some of the most successful individuals drive cheap cars and live frugal lives. And that’s the reason they are affluent. It’s a hard lesson to learn and swallow but spending money in an effort to impress people who don’t give a shit about you is absolutely ridiculous. If you don’t want to roll up in an old Toyota, park around the corner. The rest of us guys don’t give two fucks about what other people think of our cars.
I drive a 12 y/o Camry. Before that I had a 10 y/o Camry — which I stupidly gave to my evil cunt of a sister for her nanny – never again!
I save my disposable income for things that are important to me. Being seen in a Porsche or something similar is not important to me.
20 year old Nissan pickup here, OK it’s a bit rusty…… but so am I.
Even if you got to the point in life where buying a sportscar has no monetary impact on your finances, I still think there are better areas to use that money. For example a charity, property investments, etc. To be quite frank, only the mediocrely wealthy individuals drive those cars because it’s a status they are trying to uphold. Any smart person sees right through the facade. Anyone can take out a loan to lease a brand new Benz.
I lay odds it only cost you 50,000 Baht, too.
Driving a 87 Mazda RX7 here. Souped up that old rotary with a self designed and build race motor, gotta have some fun. Dirt cheap to own and to maintain yourself. Now the managers ain’t laughing anymore about that lil japanese lol 🙂
Have to finish the race prep so I can take it to the track. It just has something when you climb out of a caged racecar in a suit.
This is good response – again with the hating on the car. In NYC billionaires walk side by side with peasants. In man driving cities it is important to have the right look.
Especially real estate sales. perhaps driving clients around to high end homes – BMW – not Chevy.
Again with the Sale – I don’t have it – wish I did – everything comes from this…on a platter.
Also the path in life as I mentioned earlier :
Business earlier versus later etc. And the main stream influence on making the worst choices.
the choice to have family earlier versus later.
Or never.
Never is a very wise choice in this market.
Doing shit jobs in college makes a man out of you when you are around the poor minimum wage whites with kids who are actually trying to get by in life on it.
I was the middle-class son of a Marine Biologist and an Architect. Basically my parents earned $50,000 in the 80’s when I was growing up. The neighborhood was a dour straight-laced mix of Germans, Eastern Europeans and Irish with the odd Jew thrown in.
Anyhow I then went to college in a bucolic environment and was shocked at rural whites and how fucked the poor bastards were-have a kid at 21 when both parents have GED’s. Meth was raging out of control at that time and the white trash would always be busted right at work with stolen property in their vehicle and I’d asked “what happened to Dirk?” “Oh, they ‘bitched him’ this time” (Meaning the judged gave him a 20 year sentence). When I saw their kids I felt pity for the life these sad bastards probably now have.
If you attend university-you should-and work your way through with people your parents age working menial jobs you’ll be flabbergasted.
Even the managers were sad. These guys had been in the business, owned by some asshole who was always in Hawaii, for 30 years and were my Dad’s age.
“Time Flies”
To young men
It seems as if just yesterday this one stoner chick would-be DJ I knew said she wanted to “spin records” on the year 2000 at the pyramids.
Years later in Egypt, six in fact, I mused at the fact that she probably went nowhere. Most people don’t.
Another thing that shocked me, having traveled so much, is how most people waste their time. I sometimes Googled the real losers I knew as a young adult and noticed that some of them had spent years of their life in jail.
In 1999 when I was 25 I fucked a 45 year old ex-stripper one night who got drunk and came to my pigsty apartment. I listened to her life story-the guy she had kids with who left her the house; the son who hated her; the heroin addiction she picked up in nursing school in 1973! (Shit these cougars I fucked would be OLD NOW) the year before I was born.
Someday the girl you love will be like her. A cougar whose vagina has pushed out kids and is unceremoniously used by a young guy.
Hey Richard
I once took a hot but older (29) stripper to dinner when I was 19.
She ordered oysters, wine, and so much food I was nervous for paying the bill and used even my reserve money to pay. Literally a month’s earning at small town crap odd jobs. Later she said I could make HER cum by licking her “if wanted to”.
I felt so sick at being money-burned, I left!
In 2011 I DJed in a Private Cairo club.
Literal “10s” on the floor in VIP, but totally “sponsored” ..
Still,.. Take your breath away level girls.
At the end of the night one of them said I could take HER to dinner “if I wanted to”
I said, No Thanks!
What a great night! 🙂
STRIPPER STORY
Twenty-nine is old for a stripper. If you saw her five years later she’d be broke with a coke monkey on her back.
Or maybe not. A few strippers manage to save their money and do something down the road. But not many.
WYATT
Reality hits longtime strippers (If she was 29 she’d been a stripper for years) hard. Maybe a few manage to save $100,000 and get into real estate. But not very many.
Most strippers end up broke, surprisingly. Holding menial jobs is hard for them after easy money from 19-30. Also, they like the attention.
Was that some type of shit test? Perhaps there is a better way to steer around it and bang that 10?
When I was 19 my mates from the councilflats and I from the went hunting rich birds in an affluent area. I met one who was 30 – went back to her place in her convertible MG. Was so awesome to be with an older, experienced broad.
When I was 50 I dated a very young 30 year old broad – was so awesome to be with a young fresh chick.
If you can afford the BMW why not? Fuck yea.
The manosphere is gretavrespurce for all things masculine.
Discipline, fitness, finances etc.
Things i did not kearn at school or in yputh
Philosopy, rhetoric, etc
And big choices.
Health- plenty of female options at the bars, even in my old age but the grog is taxing. Tough choices, but there is pussy elsewhere too.
Kids – there is no right choice. And in todays climate marriage/kids is extremely risky. However, have kids at 20 and you are free to live and travel at 40 while your kids work on your grandkids. Or work travel and have kids at 40 free at 60
SIR LEE
Have kids at 20 and you are free to travel?
Unless you come from money, if you have kids at 20 you are going to work the sort of jobs that do not provide the kind of income that allows you to retire at 40 to Singapore. Minimum wage is not even going to allow you to take a trip to Florida when your kids leave the house. Unless your Dad owns a business or something.
While your kids work?
If you have kids at 20 and you come from the middle-class your kids are going to go to public schools with Cholos and Hood Rats where they will get pummeled and maybe your daughter will be a mud shark. Possibly rural areas are different.
SIR LEE, I hope you are not living in the United States because this horrendous naivete.
Dick,
Many of us older guys, our former kids are gone with the wife. No need to worry, you can just walk away and live the live you want, where you want. Most of us are smart enough to avoid the child maintenance trap.
JOHN
Well if you have the money you can pay out to all your exes and children. Like Trump does.
However if you are the average middle-class American or lower middle-class American school leaver with no degree and you have a kid at 20 years old than you are completely fucked on the wages these days.
Unless you have some trade like plumbing, electrician, etc. But in the US getting a trade costs money and requires time.
JOHN
You were lucky enough to be in your working prime during the Thatcher/Reagan era. It was not good for miners in Wales or US union people but good for the average person in their 30’s during the 1980’s.
SIR LEE
I suspect you’re a Gen Y who was born when X Files was still on the air and I was college student but if you are over the age of 30 this is seriously unsound advice.
What kind of job is a 20 year old going to get with no training and a high school diploma that will allow them to travel at 40 or pay for the kids college education.
If you are some Flyover hick it is no wonder your state is getting fucked because you people cannot collectively work out how to segue from a primary to a diversified economy.
Surely this in jest.
“unsound advice” ???
“Kids – there is no right choice. And in todays climate marriage/kids is extremely risky.”
who the fuck is talkign about minimum wage and living in the ghetto?
If they can afford to pay cash for a BMW – they may just have enough for some rugrats.
I’m 55 and occasionally fly in a private jet with my baby momma…both of us are from very poor families. This past xmas we traveled (on her dime) to 5 countries other side of the world- all first class – extended family time – adventures -and at night I played with friendly neighborhood pole dancers…
Many family/friends of same age had kids when they were young and are now free to travel etc…
some are now grandparents.
all of my parents generation, that i know of , had kids early -all were married and all that I know of had grandkids.
Don’t know any from that era that didn’t.
there are man options in life. I’ve suggested a few that people can bare in mind. Especially since there are so few kids being born in the west.
Certain groups are promoting that.
I had much fun and many ways life is good. But, I do feel I missed out on loads of kids and potential grandkids before I croak…Only have one.
Having kids at 20 is normal – historically and biologically.
But not to certain types of trolls.
What about you?
millionaire?
real estate? sports cars?
successful businesses?
married?
kids?
LEE
I cannot stand Hood Rats, White Trash Hicks, Cholos and I did not want to live on an Indian reservation in the middle of nowhere so I left the US entirely at 25. Being from a modest family with a Bachelor’s Degree I was never going to fly around the world in a private jet.
I moved to Dubai in the Clinton era just to make money as a very young man at 25 and when they elected Bush and sent the country down into the shitter I just decided to spend my life employed overseas.
Nope, never owned a private jet. Never drove anything but a Toyota.
But if you are born in Detroit to middle-class parents you are better off just about anywhere else.
If you are from some primary economy state where any spare prick can make $50 in the oilfields or your Dad owns some franchise than that is different.
But for the average middle-class kid born in the 70’s to be stuck teaching in a public school for $30,000 a year or seasonal construction was just not worth putting up with the environment at all.
So I’ve spent my career overseas with no regrets.
The only time I returned to Michigan was when a grandmother died and her house predictable was no longer worth shit.
SIR LEE
I originally went overseas simply to get a decent job. Then I realized how wonderful life is in countries with no Cholos, Hood Rats or Hicks (You come off as one).
So I’ve lived modestly overseas but that is the trade-off when you cannot stand the place you were born. And I was born in the Rustbelt shitter.
In my opinion the US went so far down the toilet that it is only a decent place for some Jews in New York on Wall Street and the Asian technocrats out on the West Coast. Maybe the Cubans are having fun in Miami.
White prole like me? You might as well spend your life overseas if you can find work.
I’m glad I did.
Your a spiteful dick
@ Sir Lee
BMW. Meh.
I have more important things to spend $$$ on…
yea me too.
especially in NYC – but if I lived in a driving city I would want nicer car – SUV – etc.
#5: Realise that lack of self-belief is cancer
Nothing is a greater robber of a man’s life potential than the belief in himself of which he falls short.
The difference between a man who believes in himself and a man who doesn’t can equate to millions of dollars in the bank and hundreds of fewer hours worked every year.
It can mean the difference between a happy marriage to a woman of character who provides you him with industrious, competent, well-adjusted children- or a string of failed relationships with emotionally abusive, promiscuous and entitled bitches who drain a man of his life energy, his bank balance and his life expectancy.
It can mean the difference between healthy lifestyle habits and great physical condition, and destructive addictions that shave years off a mans’ life and it’s quality.
At the root of a mans’ beliefs will either be a seed of poverty and self doubt, or a seed of confidence and self-belief. One man could be bankrupted the same day the next man wins the lottery- but what manifests in the days, months and years to come will reveal what seed grows in the soil that is his beliefs about his standing, his ability, his calling and his true worth.
A man who fails is 10 times more a man than the one who wistfully ponders “What if?” Because “What if?” never walked through the crowd, slipped under the ropes and set foot in the arena. The physical exhaustion and the wounds of the contest hurt a lot- but the pain is gone long before the man in the crowd who didn’t back himself gets over that dull ache of regret for not backing himself.
Between the dawning of adolescence and the age of 25, I was a “what if”. Never again…
#5: Realise that lack of self-belief is cancer
Nothing is a greater robber of a man’s life potential than the belief in himself of which he falls short.
The difference between a man who believes in himself and a man who doesn’t can equate to millions of dollars in the bank and hundreds of fewer hours worked every year.
It can mean the difference between a happy marriage to a woman of true character who provides him with industrious, competent, well-adjusted children- or a string of failed relationships with emotionally abusive, promiscuous and entitled bitches who drain a man of his life energy, his bank balance and his life expectancy.
It can mean the difference between healthy lifestyle habits and great physical condition, and destructive addictions that shave years off a mans’ life and it’s quality.
At the root of a mans’ beliefs will either be a seed of poverty and self doubt, or a seed of confidence and self-belief. One man could be bankrupted the same day the next man wins the lottery- but what manifests in the days, months and years to come will reveal what seed grows in the soil that is his beliefs about his standing, his ability, his calling and his true worth.
A man who fails is 10 times more a man than the one who wistfully ponders “What if?” Because “What if?” never walked through the crowd, slipped under the ropes and set foot in the arena. The physical exhaustion and the wounds of the contest hurt a lot- but the pain is gone long before the man in the crowd who didn’t back himself gets over that dull ache of regret for not backing himself.
Between the dawning of adolescence and the age of 25, I was a “what if”. Never again…
”Maybe she will be buying a jet on her 34th birthday. I hope I’m around for that.”
you sound like a gold digging whore
learn how to sell
most important. with that skill – you get the best money in any company. Also game/girls is sales.
University: I recommend Finance above all else. Just for the connections alone – especially in the Ivy league/NY.
I bar-tended with a kid who just graduated. He wasn’t cool/handsome like the other bartenders. Hired because of his huge circle of friends. 8 years later I worked for him on Wall St
I was making $250k in Stem – he was making $5,000,000 mostly sales/connections and 2nd lowest man on the totem pole (above me).
Most are opposed to the nice car. But he said she was making crap money in high school but good responsible saver – at 24 (8 years later?) she can afford cash for a BMW. Seems like the discipline has worked and they have cash. However, if its all the savings bad move. And in a driving city – perhpas a sales (real estate job) the profile is good. Personally I don’t like BMWs.
I started with very crap cars. And had 3 new in a row when married – a range rover, a porsche 911, and now a 10 year old chevy. I occasionally see my ex-wife’s cleaning lady driving around the 911…I like a nice car if its totally disposable cash. In NYC – a car is a liability – don’t want one. I mostly walk.
I spend summers in the affluent area of the Hampton’s – I’m not one of them – I make casual cash there. So I see the lifestyles of the rich and famous. And as others pointed out many of the wealthy are frugal and drive crap low key cars. One famous guy I know ($8mil annual salary) rents a crap car small car. no care no responsibility. many have range rovers and sports cars – sure – but I see mostly no older guys in the ostentatious lambo these days. More likely women in convertible ferraris and porshes. many have cut down solid color Broncos…
also when I see a older guy in a top of the line sports car – he is alone.
Most of said cars are bought on credit though. So technically it really isn’t their car anyways. I never buy until I can pay cash in hand.
who gives creedence to a shit article about old people from a 20 something blue pill white knight bragging about his vagina bosses life. Really? Seriously? WtF does this dude really know? Jack fucking shit.
i cant wait to get lectured by an 18 to 24 year old in person. Really. FFS.
Agreed. We’ve reiterated numerous times that UNLESS a guy is giving a hands on account of modern high school or college life, ROK writers should be at least 25 years old. They’ve just gotta have at least some element of “on your own” adult experience to be able to relate to the readers who are potentially 30-40 years older than them.
GEN Y has to be THE MOST immature generation yet. When they are 18, they look and act 12 (Even though they are tall) and when they are 25 they look and act 18 and then they behave this way for the rest of their life.
Part of it is helicopter parents. But they are very immature compared to Boomers, Gen X.
I reckon there is always something that can be gained from everyone.
his chick saving for 8 years compared to others attention whoring and getting into debt/drugs/partying is superb role-model.
I started traveling in 1986. I kept in touch with family thru “poste restante”. and even met up with chicks again thru “poste restante” and got the bang.
Now I get texting advice from guys 30 years younger than me – on the internet.
Young men:
1. Stay away from the bar/club scene. It sounds like fun when your friends talk about it, but it is a huge waste of time and money. Your 30-something bank account will appreciate not having $100 bar charges 3-5 days a month.
2. Acquire knowledge. Your brain is like a sponge when you are in your 20’s. You can acquire knowledge through reading, lectures, or just talking with interesting people. Actively seek out educational opportunities. You will remember that stuff for the rest of your life.
3. The “game guys” will get mad at this one, but swear off women. You are wasting your youth by chasing after them in your 20’s. That doesn’t mean you should not learn game and occasionally dive down the pussy mine. Just do not make the object of your free time trying to pick up women.
4. Watch the booze/pot/drugs. I’m not saying you need to be a “t-totaller” but that stuff really has long term affects on your health which can go unrealized for decades.
5. Unless you opt to have a wife/kids in your 20’s (which there is nothing wrong with if that is what you, as a man wants to do) just don’t buy property. There is no point these days. It is just going to hold you down. Rent or just live with friends (who hopefully won’t charge you rent). Mobility, especially these days, is priceless. You can’t walk away from a mortgage, but you can just walk away from a lease in another state that had a landlord which was a grandma for simply the cost of your security deposit.
6. Keep your weight as reasonable as possible given your body type. Once you hit your 30’s it gets much harder to regulate. There is no such thing as “fat fit” and weight is probably the biggest indicator of future health problems. Stay slim in your 20’s and you will probably be slim throughout your life.
7. If you do marry young (or frankly ever) get a pre-nup. Protect your pre-marital assets and future earnings. I’m not in the MGTOW crowd and think that marriage is still important (for child rearing purposes) and something society should not abandon. But, the only way a man can modestly protect his lifetime financial interests these days is to have a pre-nup.
8. Have at least one adventure. And by that I mean a true adventure, not just a vacation. Save money and go/do something in this world you normally would have never done. And, hint, if you book the entire adventure on the internet it does not count.
9. Just enjoy your youth young men. 20 turns into 30 really quickly and 30 turns into 40 faster then you can imagine. Don’t let those years become “interchangeable” or something you think will just repeat with the same events occurring. They do not. Live your life accordingly.
JEFF
If you’re going to go overboard on pot and booze it is better to do it in your twenties than your teens or thirties. If you are into harder drugs than pot, you are fucking up you life anyhow.
great advice.
especially the drinking – know man guys that just died – in their 20s and 30s. And I feel like I’ve over allocated on the drinks…plenty of chicks at the night clubs – but just not worth it.
only issue is prenup – many state they are worth nothing. And I have been thru years off that shit. no prenup – she has $ – but, the harassment, and anti-male courts etc are no different. they can break you down…use illicit tactics.. until you give up the cash to see your kids…literally abducted and held for ransom.
I equate a pre-nup to a condom. It has an 80% chance of keeping you out of trouble.
In reality though pre-nups are becoming easier to enforce in more states. The sad reason for that is because women are now paying out alimony and a higher share of marital property. It is sad that for decades a contract which was fully enforced by law, knowingly executed by both parties with advice of counsel, was interpreted in a gender-discriminatory manner because it benefited women. But, hey reality is reality, men ride the trend.
good.
the other issue with mortgage – same here – good point.
I had plenty of cash at times – but never purchased.
One because I wanted to maintain geographic flexibility and
two the market seemed too drastically high.
My dad – born in 1940 – constantly advocating to buy house. and worked for them in that era.
But, not for me.
Over long time for average 9-5er – fine in the long run…
Geographic Flexibility
A person should spend their 20’s traveling. Whether in the military, backpacking, working abroad.
When you get older, you’ll see how sad the townies are. Those people you knew WHO NEVER LEFT TOWN. Never experienced anything.
Also, be able to move to another city or state in 10 minutes if you have to. You’ll never know when yours goes downhill.
One piece of advice that I will give to any young man: do no under any circumstance get married until you are at least 30 years old. Hopefully by that time you will have grown out of the notion. Modern marriage is completely unsustainable with hypergamy allowed full reign. An attractive women in 2018 has the same smv as a rock star male of the 70’s and all the benefits that come with it. No matter how good a man you are, and how good a woman you think she is, you cant compete with the amount of choice she has. Before you jump into a lifelong commitment ask yourself this: am I willing to risk everything I have on keeping her sexually and emotionally interested for the next 75 years? Develop as a man first before you make such a big leap.
JOE
If you live in Beverly Hills or Manhattan and are poised to earn 6 figures if you stay there then the answer would be yes. Maybe.
But if you are from an average city or town and you are making five figures a year and you intend to marry the first woman that gives you sex than you will miss out on life’s experiences.
When I was 23 I almost married my college girlfriend. She broke it off with me. I was, at that time, heartbroken.
NOW I AM GLAD.
From 1999 when moved to Dubai to 2018 I have managed to have sex with South African, Turkish, Filipino, Thai, French-Canadian, Iranian, Bangladeshi, Chinese, Indian and British women.
Eventually, at the age of 40, I married a woman 10 years younger anyhow.
Also you have to be mindful of property values. If you live in a city in the rustbelt it probably sucks. Do you want your kids to attend public school with cholos and Hood rats that will teach them how to roll joints in the 6th grade? Can you afford private schools? Do you want your daughter to become a mudshark who is standing alone outside Section 8? Do you want your son to join some Mexican gang in order not to be pummeled and end up in prison? What kind of area are you able to raise your children in?
If you can send your children to decent private schools and live in a decent city than by all means marry at 22
At 24 I went balls out and bought a small apartment building instead of a BMW. I’m 55, worth several million. My advice, don’t buy the BMW.