Don’t Let A Girl Assert Frame Over You

Within every interaction is a frame where one person does the evaluating and judging while the other does the satisfying. The person with the higher value will naturally fall into a frame of evaluation while the person with the lower value will fall into a frame of trying to prove or appease. Without even thinking about it, many men fall into the inferior frame with women by how they allow an interaction to proceed.

Since we were children, we’ve been taught to answer questions. In school, we received rewards from the teacher if we answered correctly, and even in university we were graded for “class participation” based on impressing the professor with how well we know the material. The problem is that we carry the need to prove ourselves over into adulthood and allow others to assume superiority by answering questions that make us explain our behavior, thoughts, or actions. Most people are in fact too eager to prove themselves when asked a question, but by doing so they almost always accept the inferior frame.

For example, a common question that a woman asks you is, “What do you do?” By quickly answering her question, you automatically accept her “prove yourself to me” frame. This is why my game book Bang teaches you to not answer directly to a woman’s questions in the early periods of the interaction when you’re trying to establish attraction. The better response is to give a joke answer that shows you do not care of her evaluation. Paradoxically, this increases her attraction for you even more, because your value must be higher than hers if you refuse to do what so many men before you had eagerly done.

Another example is when a co-worker—and not your boss—asks you, “Why did you do it this way?” He is attempting to assert the superior frame by getting you to justify yourself. An answer which refuses his frame is one where you don’t explain why you did it in your preferred way. Unless he asks you “how” you did something, which establishes him as the inferior seeking to learn from you, you should not rationalize yourself. You’ll also encounter co-workers who ask tiny favors of you that escalate over time.

How do you feel when you have sex with a woman for the first time and are not satisfied with your performance? Because you feel inferior in that moment, you may say something like “It’ll be longer next time” or “I shouldn’t have drank so much.” This establishes you as the person who is supposed to do the pleasing. The woman is then more likely to see you as a weak man. A man who is confident of his worth would not be fazed by a bad sexual performance, or at least not feel the need to defend it.

It turns out that trying to justify yourself in any way is the best way to lose frame, and should only be done when the other person has repeatedly asserted the inferior frame. For example, if a woman repeatedly justifies herself in your presence, you can throw her a bone and appease her once in a while, but only if it’s what you really want to do so that she feels a basic level of security in the relationship.

It’s important to note that natural alpha males are automatically resistant to accepting the inferior frame. Their instinct tells them not to justify themselves, and they have such a high opinion of who they are that maintaining frame naturally flows from them. If you are not a natural alpha, you’ll have to do it manually by stopping and thinking each time a woman asks you a question or a favor (“Can you hold my purse?”) to decide if she’s trying to assert frame. If she is, which is usually the case, you must deflect her question. Make a joke or “agree and amplify” so she comes to the conclusion that you are the superior in the interaction. Otherwise, she will slowly drain your power and either use you for attention or to establish firm control over your behavior like we see with men who have been hen-pecked by their wives after several years of marriage.

You want to reach a point where you have high expectations of a woman but she has little expectations of you. She must give you submission while you do as you may. This will take some real value to pull off, but in the meanwhile you can simulate it by merely not falling into the frame of those who make requests and demands of you.

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106 thoughts on “Don’t Let A Girl Assert Frame Over You”

      1. Those Weak, Pathetic, Inferior pussies @toronto do not want to “submit” to MEN; because they are being “entertained” by MEN and are “pampered” by the sugar Daddy !!
        The fucking cunts depend on MEN for everything, but always remain shameless and ungrateful !!

        1. Way too many manginas and heroes dressed as cops ready to fight or kill for a woman.

      1. Because its faaaaaaaaaaaaaar better than entertaining Arrogant, Bitchy, Slutty, Whorish, Ill-mannered and Ungrateful “putrefied” pussies !!

      2. (((Marsha))) your pussy smells that no one will ever want to be near you

      3. Id bet if we met you in person, we would instantly know why you hate men so pathologically much. If I looked like the ass end of a hippo defecating, I suppose I would hate the world too. Your personality is so sparkling no wonder satan wishes to drag you back to hell to decorate the place.

      4. Marsha Lederman – I sure hope that’s not your real name. Half the comments on here are not real dudes, they all use fake profiles. Hell, nearly every comment posted on here is by like one, two, or three basement dwellers at most.

    1. That’s one of the few central commands of Islam that most of us actually agree with.

      1. Please don’t get us started with that stupid religion. It brings nothing in the debate.

    2. This is true because a {you control your woman} relationship lasts forever or as long as she lives. Whereas a {your woman controls you} relationship is terminal and rests on her fickle hypergamous whims. She’ll discard a spent male like a juiced and chewed tangerine slice or like an empty chewing gum wrapper or she’ll spit you out like a clean sucked lollipop stick “ptooey”. Just like that you’re on the ground. Never let her control you. Never stick your head completely into her clam trap. And on that note . . . eeh . . . I await when gravitar commenting system can imbed jpg images. I came across a great one.


  1. All is fair in love and war. You just gotta learn game so you can “get some”. Get some, get some, yeah yeah yeah!

    1. “All is fair in love and war”
      Is #metoo and weaponizing sex fair? A world where women are constantly evaluating, bitching, judging, threatening while men are constantly apologizing, walking on eggshells, justifying, getting accused… is evil, period.

      1. In Canada if a woman “FEELZZZ” offended, police are involved! Toronto women are the main drivers to this “MY FEELZ” police interactions. Innocent men are being investigated, charged, arrested and jailed over offending a Toronto woman!

      2. All hallmarks of women raised in female-dominant households. Women that lack a strong male presence, whether a supplicating/apologizing father or beta sibling (or both), will assume that her husband is in need of management as well. This is why it’s so important to evaluate her family dynamic prior to committing, if that’s even on your radar to begin with.

  2. I like answering people’s question with another question.
    Girl: Why did you do that?
    Me: Why do YOU think I did that?
    Generally I have no problem educating someone if they frame their question the right way. But these days women feel like they can challenge us with bitchy attitudes so we need to respond in a way that makes them feel discouraged from acting stupid. If you make people feel stupid for asking questions, eventually they stop questioning you.
    Women have always had the intellect of children but the difference is they have the rights of adults. Terribly combination. We need to keep reminding them their challenges to our authority are baseless and that they’d live happier lives allowing us to think for them.

      1. Elizabeth Banks looks like she has a 100+ n-count. Something about her face screams “whore”

        1. ALL HAIL FITZ AND G THE NEW NEO NAZI GODS!!! ALL HAIL THE NEW NAZIS!!!! ALL HAIL THE WHITE MAN NOW AND FOREVER!!! ALL HAIL THE WHITE MAN!!! RIGHT RIGHT??? Wait, wtf…your tellin me we can’t burn blackie, (((them))) or catholics at the stake and people ONLY think its funny online??? Well I guess you better go back to fucking your sister then to keep the white bloodline ‘untainted’ then huh?

        1. Keep accusing random people who say things you don’t like of rape, Marsha. I don’t see that backfiring at all… it’s not as if, rather than shutting down discussions it’ll become yet another meaningless leftist buzzword or anything like that.

    1. “I like answering people’s question with another question.
      Girl: Why did you do that?
      Me: Why do YOU think I did that?”
      You should like a thirteen year old.

      1. I should like a 13 year old?
        Your average 13 year old female looks way better than an average Western woman in her late 20s

    2. @Fitz, Good explanation, and what you said is correct.
      I am the same person who called you “moron”, in my reply to your comment (some other article). That is for that comment/article only & nothing personal.

  3. Feminists especially in Toronto and the rest of Canada want a man that they can control. If the man only asserts his dominance, the police arrive! Toronto women are feminist demons!

  4. “Bitch, you walk around with your bra too tight… It’s alright, you still gonna get fucked tonight” – Old Dirty Bastard

  5. So, uh, “Rooshie boy” you make sense in this here article.
    Care to elaborate why you gonna “ban me” from your ol’ site?
    You gettin’ too old for this *YOUNG MAN STUFF* “old man”
    Aren’t ya ’bout forty-something going on up? lol.
    Be a *MAN* son lol. 😉
    ~ Bro. Jed

    1. Yup, over 40, living in his mom’s basement and putting all these losers to write for 5 dollars per article, while he charges 250 dollars per sponsored article.
      The definition of LOSER.
      What dominance do you have to assert under these circumstances? Nada. Based on what? On nothing. This is why his life is a wankfest and he teaches other men to be losers, just like him and start abusive relationship with women who will get tired by asshole behavior and dump them.
      Any woman who calls the cops when this nasty ugly old asshole starts bragging does the right thing.

      1. Lol your dumbass still believes that story about Roosh “living in his mom’s basement?” He has been traveling the world since 2008 you stupid fuck. Also Roosh offered more and has done more in his life than you ever will. What the fuck have you done other than write snarky comments and complain about how Roosh makes your pussy hurt? Nothing.

  6. To be fair, the woman in that thumbs-down pic really looks like a dude. The guys is probably thinking, “Jesus Christ how much did I drink, and thank fuck I couldn’t get it up”

  7. How do Americans deal with hypocrisy today?
    You might live in a warm place and own a new car listening to good music with an excellent stereo after you ate a delicious dinner and feel pretty good about living in a free country, but how does being tracked and wiretapped 24/7 feel?
    Americans may feel like they are good people even when they commit three felonies a day just by existing.
    How do Americans justify paying taxes when their taxes fund rising debt, Obamacare, food stamps, regulations, US wars, illegal immigrants, nanny state laws, security cameras, license plate readers, checkpoints, redlight cameras, speed cameras, FBI facial and voice recognition, curfews, gun bans, NSA wiretapping, the end to the right to silence, free speech bans, searches without warrants, private prisons, mandatory minimums, 3 strikes laws, DNA databases, CISPA, SOPA, NDAA, IMBRA, private prison quotas, no knock raids, take down notices, no fly lists, terror watch lists, Constitution free zones, stop and frisk, 3 strikes laws, kill switches, National Security Letters, DNA databases, kill lists, FBAR, FATCA, Operation Chokepoint, TSA groping, civil forfeiture, CIA torture, NDAA indefinite detention, secret FISA courts, FEMA camps, laws requiring passports for domestic travel, IRS laws denying passports for tax debts, gun and ammo stockpiles, laws outlawing protesting, police militarization, chain gangs, boot camps, and Jade Helm?
    Americans might feel like they live in a moral country, but how can a nation that tortures and launches endless wars take the moral high ground on anything?
    How could Americans not feel responsible for US wars, debt, and tyranny?
    How would the founding fathers think about the collapse of the USA?
    The American default reaction to hard facts seems to be to not think and to silence those who speak the truth, but facts don’t cease to exist because they are ignored.
    Future generations will ask why Americans didn’t resist when the US became a police state.
    One thing worse than learning that you live in a police state is finding out that no one cares.
    The only realistic option left for a moral American seems to be to renounce your citizenship.

    1. “Future generations will ask why Americans didn’t resist when the US became a police state.”

  8. The author of this misogynistic article raped me! He is a rapist who loves to violate women!!!!!!! He’s a raper!!!!! Help me!!!!!!!!! He will rape you!

    1. GTFO (((Marsha Lederman))) no one wants to go near that stinky disease hub of your pussy

      1. Marsha is a lying Jooess with a feminist agenda from Canada!

        1. Good facetiousness there! You even nailed the frequent spelling errors and inane rambling of the kind of people who believe in the shit this article says. (NB: Don’t they know that “Marsha” is clearly a man posing as a woman, to reinforce their stereotypes of women as whingeing, hypocritical/lying, brainless money-grabbers?)

    2. Awwww..listen to the SJW dog whistle….it worked, it called in some really uglyassed dogs posting down below, no peanut butter and steak necklaces needed after all the pets of SJW are so well trained to those two scents. Sheesh.

  9. Good to have you back Boss!
    The most important thing for men, indeed. I know I catch flak on this, but for the young guys who need practice, I suggest keeping Frame even if you are dipping 1-2 SMV points below. AND make sure her attraction and service to you is CLEAR.
    Once this is down, eventually ease to higher SMV targets but know this: they are increasingly High-Notch, Alpha Widowed which is hell for any thoughts of LTR.
    Guys stop being sooo taken by beauty in your targets that you drop Frame and the Lead in the relationship.

      1. damn ignore that link
        go to heartiste and see the 2 little kids pics from yesterday

  10. @Hahaha,
    Laughed super hard at this – “What dominance do you have to assert under these circumstances? Nada. Based on what? On nothing”
    EXACTLY. All of these losers seem to think they are God’s gift to women simply because they are male. These chumps saying things like “Women always have to submit to men” just make me think of a 50+ geezer in some small town/village/low-cost housing who have absolutely zero to offer but expect the world and some more.
    As for Roosh himself, the guy seems to live in some kind of parallel universe where his silver-streaked, lice-infested Ayatollah beard and form-fitting RoK T-shirts make him some sort of a hit with ladies.
    No woman of real quality is going to stick with men like you. You expect women who are virgins, 15-20 years younger, slim, feminine, wearing flowy dresses and heels all the time, and also demand that they don’t work, attend university, use social media, cook, clean, scrape and bow to you. You also think it is your right to choose her friends and regulate what she reads . You also want to decide what hobbies she should take up.
    What do you offer in return? Your middle-aged paunchy dadbods, receding hairlines, and measly incomes that she herself can comfortably earn.
    Yeah right.
    Label them all you want, call them ‘betas’ and ‘simps’ and ‘cucks’ and whatever else, but these guys–who respect women and treat them like human beings, not property–are the ones who have any chance at happiness in relationships while you lot just keep spouting bullshit on sites like RoK. MGTOW indeed. What other way CAN you go when women can’t even stand to look at you losers?

    1. The “manosphere” truly is extremely low level. i agree with you here. low quality men think they are great quality and want to rule over people – that seems like the common advertisement here (more in the comments much less in the articles)
      now they can say women are children with rights of adults all they want, i agree with that line 100%. but it is also true that these males here are also dumb narcissistic, sociopathic, nihilistic, annoying spoiled children with a superiority complex with the rights of adults.
      it´s simple: in general, the males did not get what they expected then they turned frustrated and angry i.e immature little spoiled brats. not realizing it is their fault for lacking character and decency.
      maybe the people here who rant about betas all the time are also only betas, but aggressive betas.

        1. whats wrong with my post? calling me cuck is funny. i dont have problems handling a woman as you guys seem to have.

        2. @ wolf. I’m surprised your vocabulary goes beyond, “yes dear”. Who knew?

    2. Proof that every single male migraine all has the very same source..the walking emo Estrogen factories.

    3. Staggeringly, we can see why as societies fell why the brought back the coliseum activities. Can’t wait until they bring them back in this age. Bread and circuses while seeing live feedings of lions and tigers and bears oh my.

    4. You’re probably the type of guy who gets off to watching his wife get dicked by other men. It’s the only reason she stays with you. You’re right. The life of watching bonobos run a train on your Stacy sounds much better than MGTOW. I don’t know why we didn’t think of that earlier! Please enlighten us more, Carl the Cuck

    5. Thank you! I’ve been posting here too, and just wanted to say that it’s so good to see someone else trying to help dispel these ridiculous notions about “alpha”/”beta” “social superiority” shit and women as users and manipulators. About time 🙂

  11. To all the feminist cunts and beta cucks trolling in the comment section this message is for you. Nature doesn’t give a fuck about MUH FEMINISM because despite all the rants,screeching,and nonsensical ramblings about the patriarchy,sexism,and toxic masculinity once Alpha Chad steps into the room all that bullshit goes out the window and your pussies will be throbbing to have his kids while you white knight beta male bitches who think regurgitating feminist talking points will get you laid will just get a friendly pat on the head for being “nice guys” leaving you with a bad case of blue balls and lonely nights beating off to your online porn collection.

    1. “Alpha had” sounds like the biggest twat in the world. I’d rather have my boyfriend, who actually loves me and respects me.

  12. Frame is not just for men. It is something that a woman who won’t agree with the femi-twat bullshit needs to learn. Women just don’t learn frame. I wish I had known about it 30 years ago. I like to call frame, “keeping your shit together”. I have a long way to go, but if I didn’t read RoK I would of never known about frame.
    I eat these articles up because of the lessons for all. Managing screw ball borderlines in my job is a practiced art. It starts with frame.

      1. @Neal
        The true Human Resources. The HR you rarely saw because they stayed in their offices. They handled applications, benefits, sick leave etc. Now twats have spread through corporations like a malignant tumour. Practiced in the art of saying nothing and doing nothing except to target and cruxify those who do not obey. I love subtly disrespecting them and then watching their reaction. It’s like they discovered an enemy inside the gate.

        1. i know that. HR in civil service is every bit a fanatic feminist realm…get caught doing shit and them bitches will hem you up with a quickness, union be damned.

  13. Can work with me, for me, or fuck off and die. That’s my basic approach. Simple enough. Zero sum is a beautiful thing. Be shocked how many are not even in the game.

  14. Very good article. Simple and powerful. Please do more articles like this 🙂
    I already knew the concept of frame, but the words you used allow me to understand it better, to see it a little differently.

  15. Roosh raped a ten year old? I’m sorry (((Marsha))) but you must be Confusing Roosh with slick willie Clinton.

  16. With modern day hamster wheels you can’t just give yes and no answers like so called alpha males say you have to manipulate them . When a woman asks for an expensive gift you don’t say “no” immediately , you escalate her feelings by lying . “Baby I was walking thru Tiffany’s and I noticed the new Alexander Wang gold plated panties and I thought of you .youll get a surprise real soon .” .. and you never buy the thing but telling her you will keeps the seratonin flowing in her pea brain

    1. just like a bicycle tire, pump it up to optimum pressure and ride it until it pops….park it until next time and repeat.

      1. Or like a helium balloon. Fill it full of helium happy gas until she is fat n happy floating (cater to her vanity) suck out some happy gas and make funny sounds, then prick it. Entertainment value, and nothing more. She won’t don’t care if she gets something out of it other than a good time, why because a relationshit or emotional connection is UNIMPORTANT to her to start with, she wants pleasure and stuff, so cater to it and put her out like trash, because that is how she operates. A simple transaction whether it be money or materials. You don’t need a marriage license or civil contract. Its just plain not needed and a losing proposition for a MAN to tie himself to legal slavery to her, at a complete loss of freedom and financial stability.

        1. you play with them like a video game. It all ends eventually, just ride it out as long as possible. alpha bullshit game or whatever… thats all fine and dandy until she gets a ring and no matter how strong your so called frame is, you’ll get divorce papers in the mail.

    2. You urbanite liberalist shitheads want to pump and dump 10,000 females to up some count that exists only in your head. This does not make you a man, it makes you a juvenile with elephantitis of the nuts. And you lie on top of all that. Whatever dirt you are shoveling shows where you are from and how you were raised.

      1. You got us all wrong . We only do this because there is no alternative and nobody says we have a high notch count . Most of us have been fiver race raped already . What’s the alternatives in my 40s ? Marry a single mom ?

        1. you know, if women just. grasped the once concept that a man divorced raped just once, is not going to look at any vagina owner is worth the risk of getting brutally cornholed again throught their wallet feelings or property. No sane man would do this shit a second time much less give the snatch hole a chance to do it again. but they insist its always got to be something else, misogyny, gay or whatever. clueless fucking broads dont understand action and reaction.

    3. Oh yes, because all women want in their “pea brain[s]” is a pretty shiny thing… I feel like respect would get you a far better reaction than “Alexander Wang gold plated panties” (which, spoiler alert, don’t exist, you tool) — but that would require you to pull your head out of your ass and think about other people as actual human beings and not just machines to d your bidding, or dogs you can appease by giving them a toy or some scraps of food.

      1. Let me pull out the ATM card and gift card to Victorias Secret….and you would be panting and drooling worse than Pavlovs dogs.

        1. I’d rather have a Barnes & Noble gift card… But je divague. I can buy my own panties, thanks, with money I earn from my job in translation (I speak English, German, French and Dutch to C1 level on the CEFRL, and Russian to C2. I’m teaching myself Japanese in my spare time. I went to Oxford University (Balliol College). How’s that for dumb?) And you know who’ll get to see them? My boyfriend. Because a lot of women, funnily enough, are really turned on by men who don’t treat them like a piece of meat.

      2. Men don’t do the walk of shame unless they chewed and arm off to escape the fattie that they “game” f*cked by mistake. I don’t see too many one armed men running around.

        1. Women who live in a world where they aren’t hated purely for wanting to have sex with people — because, gosh! they’re physical beings too, who also like certain sensations like the oxytocin rush of falling in love or having an orgasm — also don’t do the walk of shame. Unfortunately, that world doesn’t always seem to be the same as the present one we live in.

  17. If a girl asks you what you do, do what I do. Say it’s a secret and you can only tell them if you grow to trust them.
    They have to prove to you that you can trust them, they assume you’re a criminal of some kind which bolsters your dark triad characteristics, and provides an element of mystery.
    Maybe I should write my own book since none of you fucking PUA’s ever expand on your old previous content. You go on about dark triad characteristics, and joking instead of answering questions. Combine them. Be creative. This is a highly competitive sexual market – lying as far as I’m concerned, is the only way to go.

  18. Wolf is right. I have a feeling most of you are beta cucks. Even the self proclaimed PUA’s have trouble. Awww you can’t handle girls becoming pieces of shit? That’s toooo badddd.
    Make way for the guys who don’t give a fuck. You emotional pussies.

  19. Women don’t think in terms of “frame”. Sometimes a question is just a question. Stop overthinking this.

  20. “If you are not a natural alpha, you’ll have to do it manually by stopping and thinking each time a woman asks you a question or a favor (“Can you hold my purse?”) to decide if she’s trying to assert frame. If she is, which is usually the case, you must deflect her question. Make a joke or “agree and amplify” so she comes to the conclusion that you are the superior in the interaction.”
    That’s bullshit. While thinking about something else, like hanging an eviction notice up on a non-paying tenant’s door, you say, “No.” And then turn the radio up or talk about something serious, like the fact that you’re hungry and about to pull into a nearby joint.

  21. “ok, but who are you? you are not a blessing at all i suppose.”
    I’m your mama, I’m your daddy
    I’m that nigga in the alley
    I’m your doctor, when in need
    Want some coke, have some weed
    You know me, I’m your friend
    Your main boy, thick and thin
    I’m your pusherman
    I’m your pusherman
    Ha ha
    Ain’t I clean, bad machine
    Super cool, super mean
    Feelin’ good, for the man
    Superfly, here I stand
    Secret stash, heavy bread
    Baddest bitches, in the bed
    I’m your pusherman
    I’m your pusherman
    I’m your pusherman
    Solid life, of crime
    A man of odd circumstance
    A victim of ghetto demands
    Feed me money for [style]
    And I’ll let you trip for a while
    Insecure from the past
    How long can a good thing last?
    Woohoo, no
    Got to be mellow, y’all
    Gotta be mellow now
    Pusherman gettin’ mellow y’all
    Heavy mind, have you signed?
    Makin’ money all the time
    My instructs me
    For all junkies to see
    Ghetto prince is my thing
    Makin’ love’s how I swing
    I’m your pusherman
    I’m your pusherman
    Too bad, [splee]
    For a generous fee
    Make you world what
    you want it to be
    Got a woman I love desperately
    Wanna give her something better than me
    Been told I can’t be nothin’ else
    Just a hustler in spite of myself
    I know I can rake it
    This life just don’t make it
    Lord, lord
    Got to get mellow now
    Gotta be mellow, y’all
    Got to get mellow now

  22. Beware the enemy that smile a pearly white grin of glee with ulterior motives for thee
    Beware here charms that will do you harm
    And protect thy soul from her black hole
    Do not enter the dark pink hole of sweet love
    Just stick and shove
    Blow your load and walk door
    And don’t call that bitch no more
    Follow thy fathers advice
    And thy bank account will look nice
    Don’t blame if you are set to ruin
    For I warned you
    Of her doin

  23. I’m genuinely shocked by the fact that this “article” (to give it such a grandiose title for that absolute crap it is) was even written — unless it’s all very clever irony, which given the source I doubt. To think that the writer, and clearly from the comments his emasculated fanbase, truly hold these kinds of beliefs nowadays is incredible. (I say “emasculated” because, let’s face it, if you’re a man who’s constantly reading up on how to avoid women “draining your power” or whatever then you’re clearly afraid of them, and who’s the “superior” in that paradigm, then? (Spoiler: not you)). Any relationship, whether between men and women in a marriage/romance/friendship, or colleagues of any gender, etc., etc., should be built on some level of courtesy, transparency (oh no, having to justify yourself!), and respect — even if it’s just respect for them as a fellow human being. If you avoid explaining yourself, it doesn’t show your strength — it shows your weakness in judging situations, revealed by your inability to offer up your reasoning for the potentially justifiable reason that it’s highly flawed. Women are not constantly trying to “assert a frame of domination” (which is some pretty bad writing style, I must admit) over men — we just want to be treated equally. Which we, by and large, are. Just not by idiots like you. I find it quite saddening that some people waste their lives feeling so bitter about things. And on a final note, I’d like to add that I’m *not* bitter. I’m not a “feminazi” or whatever, I can’t remember the last time I even talked about women’s rights with someone. Because I talk to people who have enough basic respect for me to have open, respectful dialogue with me. I’m not a man-hating (I’m not a retard), bra-burning (I wear dresses or skirts, hardly ever pants), ugly (I won Best Hair in my high school, haha), stupid (I study Russian at Cambridge University, England), overweight (I’m 5’6 110lbs) lesbian (I have a boyfriend, for heaven’s sake), or whatever you think women who disagree with you are. I’m just someone who’s calling out your bullshit.

    1. Typical female, telling men to justify themselves. Hear it all the time. Justify the “{why}emotive reasoning}, not the logical factual reasoning of men.
      Shaming language will answer through the typical arrogant vapid response……Oh never mind, the usual shaming language was in the original post….

      1. I think you’re missing the OP’s point. We want men to be able to rationally explain themselves too. I want everyone, regardless of whether they’re male, female, or have three dicks and a gestation pouch, to be able to justify their actions. But avoiding answers just proves you’ve been illogical — otherwise, to borrow the favourite phrase of my high school mathematics teacher, show your working out.

  24. All the guys on here can “talk smack” all they like; it don’t faze me.
    It’s actually my “entertainment”.
    Point I’m making with Roosh is what is his “depth” as a man?
    By his own prior admission he is now 40+ years-old and still continuing on with his “fornication/adultery(?) lifestyle” without any real depth as a *MAN* coming of age beyond fornicating with the young daughters of fathers.
    All Roosh wants with women is to “tarnish” their personal self-worth by his selfish sexual gratification purposes and doesn’t face the fact that he is *CONTRIBUTING* to the wicked amoral behaviour of women in Western society.
    He just “screws” the women and acts like it won’t “affect society in the long-term”: women are a lot more vindictive, hateful and “conniving” because they’ve come across whoremongers like Roosh who “use them for sex” and move on as soon as they’re done; not putting any “substance” into the relationship; for *SEX* is a *TRANSACTION* O men.
    Roosh knows better and that’s why I don’t respect him for what he does.
    Time you hit 40 years-old and up as a *MAN* your life is supposed to have more “depth” and *MATURITY* in purpose and role in society than just “fooling around” as a young man in wicked fornication and/or adultery.
    It’s like a grown man in his fifties still trying to “act cool” and “fit in” with people who would be his grandkids’ age at a highschool prom: Roosh is getting too old (like *MANY MEN* for that matter to just play “Bang!, Bang!” for the rest of their lives living as “play-BOYS” and not gentle-MEN!
    He’s hardheaded and rebelliously stubborn in his *SIN* like many of you who vouch and support this wicked whoremongering lifestyle instead of taking *RESPONSIBILITY* for your family and *YOUR NEIGHBOR*!
    Say what you will about it; it’s only sad “comedy” to my ears.
    Roosh and others here know better: quit “fornicating around” and grow into your *MANHOOD* as you age.
    It’s time ROOSH. It’s time. “Man up”. Amen.
    ~ Bro. Jed


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