This is not a takedown of online dating or people using online dating, since I am one such person. This is an attempt to explain why otherwise successful men have difficulty meeting women online.
1. Contact
Touch is very important to intimacy, report, and attraction. Obviously, this is impossible to do through the tubes of the Internet (for now). Even basic eye contact is not possible through a computer.
2. Value Inflation
Just as adding more currency into an economy devalues all the other currency while increasing prices, adding more messages to the dating economy devalues other messages and inflates the self-perceived value of the girls.
Very attractive women do not benefit directly from online dating. If they are attractive they can meet men anywhere. Why do they create profiles on dating sites? Validation. They crave the attention of men, even those they’d label the C word. They get many messages a day and rarely respond. What happens next to the men on these sites is a lowering of standards. They begin to contact the lesser-attractive women. These women have their self-worth filled as well as their inboxes. They begin to think they are more attractive than they really are and begin responding to messages more selectively, thus continuing the cycle.
In the end, guys are contacting women they’d never speak with in real life (other than at 2:30 a.m.). The inflated self-perceived sexual value these women develop spills out into the real world, making it more difficult to pick them up. Luckily, the ones most affected by this are the women you’d likely avoid anyways.
3. Confidence
Women are attracted to confidence. Confidence is very difficult to express with a photo or a description. The best profiles show humour and cockiness; true confidence is elusive. The mere act of contacting a women online is quite simple (I cut and paste responses). This does not show confidence like, say, approaching a woman in a coffee shop might. It reveals little competence, as any macro program can do as good a job.
4. Impossible Standards
A few years ago, OKCupid surveyed their users on what they found attractive. Shockingly, but perhaps not surprisingly, women rated 80% of men below-average. Let that sink in for a minute: It doesn’t take a post-grad in statistics to understand that is some pretty skewed data. If only 20% are above average how many of us are actually considered good looking? Clearly, these are standards the vast majority (90+%) of men can’t ever hope to meet.
This data supports number three above. Since women find confidence attractive, and confidence is difficult to express online, it isn’t hard to see why women are not attracted to the men who are online.
5. SIFs
I won’t go into detail. Secret Internet Fatties have already wasted too much of your time.
6. Fairy Tale Princess Endings
The average woman fantasizes about being swept off her feet by Prince Charming while doing some mundane task like buying groceries, sitting in a coffee shop, or buying a book. They want to believe that the meeting was complete chance and that some characteristic of her was so striking that the man could not help but be overwhelmed with the need to approach her. Of course, this man would say the perfect things at the perfect moments and they’d together live happily ever after. This is exactly why game works the way it does, and why many women get very upset when they hear of game and PUA culture. They want to believe everything just happened; premeditation takes away the magic.
Nothing about online dating is magical. It is completely contrived and is set up in a pretty logical manner (not surprising since they all were designed by men). The popular sites have added features that allow you to see random matches in a way that tries to replicate a little of the magic women crave, but have not been successful to date.
Despite the above six points, which clearly show online dating can never be as good as approaching women in real life, it’s not a complete waste of time. Gaining experience online can improve understanding of game and success with women. There is value in online dating. You will get laid. You’ll just have to cast many times before you get something on the line.
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its not fresh anymore, its a mature medium, i see womens profiles that i remember from years ago, they have heard it all, and seen it all, the novelty is gone, i cant stand out anymore, but the women like the attention none the less. diminishing returns has ended it completely for me, as an early adopter i scored big years ago, its time to move on if you have understanding.
The iron is hot for the striking with those ones…they had the time to learn what quality is and are not easily duped by your common halfwit with a little muscle and false confidence.
This is a good, solid post. Online dating is pretty terrible, but then again nothing that is important in life can be easily accomplished just by getting on the internet. Online dating is great practice, and you probably will get laid by a very average, unremarkable woman or two. It also shows how unrealistic modern American women are about their dating prospects. Many women with very little to offer, demanding a very high quality man to spend the rest of their lives with. Quite funny.
so so true, most (about 99%) of the women are far from being a catch at most of the online dating sites…. they usually have multiple kids, behind on their rent, a dog and 2 cats and 8 tattoos and coming out of their 3rd divorce, but are only just separated. And way older than they truly are, about 30 lbs heavier than their selfies they said they just took that day, but were actually taken 10 years ago.
This^
How about speed dating? Has anyone here tried that?
what aspiring alpha would even consider speed dating…
besides.. speeddating is a famously rigged game. goodlooking girls get paid to show up and feign interest. men pay double price just to be there. regular girls pay nothing and can just show up for free, otherwise too few girls.
fuck that.
See that?! That’s what s so kick ass about a forum like this. I can run some game but I’ve never done any speed dating and it woulda taken me a good few months to figure how a scam like that would run. Concur! Fuck that!
Yep. You guys are scammers that can’t just lay some tail out without the BS frills
I’ve done speed dating. Our law school set it up with the neighboring med school. It was free so my buddies and I did it out of boredom and it was a good excuse to get wasted and fuck with people. You soon realize how awkward and boring the population is all asking the same 7 stale questions. I drunkenly led off with “I don’t care what you do, what amusement park ride are you?” I got like 6 yeses, but couldn’t remember who they were or what they looked like so never followed up.
It wasn’t free. You were in lawyering school. That was your payment to the system and what ever potential vagina you might of ended up in.
I’ll add another point; women hate doing things alone, so back when I used to do speed dating I’d ask a few pointed questions and find that for every girl who’s there to meet someone she’s brought three friends who aren’t and are probably already taken.
Why does anyone allow a woman to be paid for her looks?
Same goes for men
Because we are an honest and deep thinking species…thats why
yeah, it is called, multiple dating website profiles at the same time. if you sign up to 5 or 6 different dating websites, you will be dating a different woman every day of the week. i did for a few months, even had 2 and 3 dates in one day…. but, i’ll have to say,,,, 99% of the women online, are full of drama, and there profile pics are 10 to 15 years old. How every they describe as their body type,,, add at least 20 to 40 lbs to that figure. But, if you are not good at meeting face to face, there is nothing wrong with trying to find that needle in a hay stack.
Why does everyone assume the internet is to make up for not being able to socialize?
Maybe what is offered in most social venues is for average people with average minds and not all people are common halfwits.
why would you want to bang a girl that already been banged by many “speed daters”?
It’s useful to find introverts to date – the artsy girl you ain’t gonna find hittin’ da clubz. Also, if you aren’t setting up a date within 48 hours or 3 messages of first contact, you’re doing it wrong.
Let me blow your mind. I’ve been messaging with the same guy for almost a month. Haven’t even exchanged numbers but I like him more for his patience and non aggressiveness. I’m probably going to have to ask because it’s starting to bother me lol. It’s nice after dealing with creeps both in public and online.
the nice thing about the internet is that guys can message lots of differant women at the same time. lol.
if a guy doesn’t want to give out his phone number…. there is probably a good reason… he is probably married or in a relationship. I’m Just saying,,,,,but, i could be wrong. Just keep your eyes open and watch out for those red flags.
Yes..humans are all monogamous. Thats why they cheat so often and otherwise fail to maintain their monogamous arrangements.
Monogamy isn’t imposed on society so all the loser males won’t become terrorists.
Agreed. Plus the fact is too many people spend too much time with their noses either in a smart phone, or internet or TV or whatever. There is something to be said about actually experiencing the sunset instead of looking at a photo of a sunset on a computer monitor.
Good point to about the SIF’s. My belief is that if the chick is hot enough she will be in the real world flirting and manipulating guys out of real resources, not behind a keyboard. Let’s not forget too of the various assorted freak shows: gay dudes pretending to be women, chicks with dicks, maybe a John Wayne Gacy or two.
I agree with Garth.
In fact, if you want to prove to yourself that hot women are not on OKCupid, Match, eharmony, etc., go on to the Tinder app and do a photo-by-photo comparison with a traditional dating site profile. (On Tinder, it’s hot sorority girls using their Instagram photos to get attention from the fraternity guys they like.)
That’ll prove to you that hot women do not “demean” themselves with the online dating scene, even when they want to do online attention-whoring.
Hot women want free stuff faster. Bars and parties or other places where multiple dudes can be pitted against each other in one upmanship just for some pune.
Anything to ejaculate
That was true maybe a few years ago, but it just isn’t the case anymore. Are there weirdos? Sure. There’s weirdos out preying on people in the real world too. Nevertheless, I ended up on this website after running a Google search on online dating. See, I too thought it was for losers and weirdos, but I’m finding out that more and more of my friends and coworkers are doing it. Since I work crazy hours, I simply don’t have time to be out flirting all the time, hoping to meet a nice, funny guy. I’m considering online dating, but I’m proceeding cautiously. I don’t want to manipulate a guy anymore than I want to be manipulated myself. And by the way, I’m not an SIF, and IF or even an F. On that note, I actually am worried that, like what I’ve experienced time after time in the real world, guys will only want to date me because of my looks and either not care much about my personality, or freak out when they find out I’m not nearly as “girly” as I look. I also never bang on a first date… so am I just wasting my time and everyone else’s time?
That was true maybe a few years ago, but it just isn’t the case anymore. Are there weirdos? Sure. There’s weirdos out preying on people in the real world too. Nevertheless, I ended up on this website after running a Google search on online dating. See, I too thought it was for losers and weirdos, but I’m finding out that more and more of my friends and coworkers are doing it. Since I work crazy hours, I simply don’t have time to be out flirting all the time, hoping to meet a nice, funny guy. I’m considering online dating, but I’m proceeding cautiously. I don’t want to manipulate a guy anymore than I want to be manipulated myself. And by the way, I’m not an SIF, and IF or even an F. On that note, I actually am worried that, like what I’ve experienced time after time in the real world, guys will only want to date me because of my looks and either not care much about my personality, or freak out when they find out I’m not nearly as “girly” as I look. I also never bang on a first date… so am I just wasting my time and everyone else’s time?
That was true maybe a few years ago, but it just isn’t the case anymore. Are there weirdos? Sure. There’s weirdos out preying on people in the real world too. Nevertheless, I ended up on this website after running a Google search on online dating. See, I too thought it was for losers and weirdos, but I’m finding out that more and more of my friends and coworkers are doing it. Since I work crazy hours, I simply don’t have time to be out flirting all the time, hoping to meet a nice, funny guy. I’m considering online dating, but I’m proceeding cautiously. I don’t want to manipulate a guy anymore than I want to be manipulated myself. And by the way, I’m not an SIF, and IF or even an F. On that note, I actually am worried that, like what I’ve experienced time after time in the real world, guys will only want to date me because of my looks and either not care much about my personality, or freak out when they find out I’m not nearly as “girly” as I look. I also never bang on a first date… so am I just wasting my time and everyone else’s time?
See, I too thought it was for losers and weirdos, but I’m finding out that more and more of my friends and coworkers are doing it.
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You want validation for being surrounded by losers and weirdos, I guess?
You want validation too. Tell her straight up. I have “relationships” with barbie dolls….yep, relationships are the result of hot ass.
That was true maybe a few years ago, but it just isn’t the case anymore. Are there weirdos? Sure. There’s weirdos out preying on people in the real world too. Nevertheless, I ended up on this website after running a Google search on online dating. See, I too thought it was for losers and weirdos, but I’m finding out that more and more of my friends and coworkers are doing it. Since I work crazy hours, I simply don’t have time to be out flirting all the time, hoping to meet a nice, funny guy. I’m considering online dating, but I’m proceeding cautiously. I don’t want to manipulate a guy anymore than I want to be manipulated myself. And by the way, I’m not an SIF, and IF or even an F. On that note, I actually am worried that, like what I’ve experienced time after time in the real world, guys will only want to date me because of my looks and either not care much about my personality, or freak out when they find out I’m not nearly as “girly” as I look. I also never bang on a first date… so am I just wasting my time and everyone else’s time?
That was true maybe a few years ago, but it just isn’t the case anymore. Are there weirdos? Sure. There’s weirdos out preying on people in the real world too. Nevertheless, I ended up on this website after running a Google search on online dating. See, I too thought it was for losers and weirdos, but I’m finding out that more and more of my friends and coworkers are doing it. Since I work crazy hours, I simply don’t have time to be out flirting all the time, hoping to meet a nice, funny guy. I’m considering online dating, but I’m proceeding cautiously. I don’t want to manipulate a guy anymore than I want to be manipulated myself. And by the way, I’m not an SIF, and IF or even an F. On that note, I actually am worried that, like what I’ve experienced time after time in the real world, guys will only want to date me because of my looks and either not care much about my personality, or freak out when they find out I’m not nearly as “girly” as I look. I also never bang on a first date… so am I just wasting my time and everyone else’s time?
That was true maybe a few years ago, but it just isn’t the case anymore. Are there weirdos? Sure. There’s weirdos out preying on people in the real world too. Nevertheless, I ended up on this website after running a Google search on online dating. See, I too thought it was for losers and weirdos, but I’m finding out that more and more of my friends and coworkers are doing it. Since I work crazy hours, I simply don’t have time to be out flirting all the time, hoping to meet a nice, funny guy. I’m considering online dating, but I’m proceeding cautiously. I don’t want to manipulate a guy anymore than I want to be manipulated myself. And by the way, I’m not an SIF, and IF or even an F. On that note, I actually am worried that, like what I’ve experienced time after time in the real world, guys will only want to date me because of my looks and either not care much about my personality, or freak out when they find out I’m not nearly as “girly” as I look. I also never bang on a first date… so am I just wasting my time and everyone else’s time?
That was true maybe a few years ago, but it just isn’t the case anymore. Are there weirdos? Sure. There’s weirdos out preying on people in the real world too. Nevertheless, I ended up on this website after running a Google search on online dating. See, I too thought it was for losers and weirdos, but I’m finding out that more and more of my friends and coworkers are doing it. Since I work crazy hours, I simply don’t have time to be out flirting all the time, hoping to meet a nice, funny guy. I’m considering online dating, but I’m proceeding cautiously. I don’t want to manipulate a guy anymore than I want to be manipulated myself. And by the way, I’m not an SIF, and IF or even an F. On that note, I actually am worried that, like what I’ve experienced time after time in the real world, guys will only want to date me because of my looks and either not care much about my personality, or freak out when they find out I’m not nearly as “girly” as I look. I also never bang on a first date… so am I just wasting my time and everyone else’s time?
That was true maybe a few years ago, but it just isn’t the case anymore. Are there weirdos? Sure. There’s weirdos out preying on people in the real world too. Nevertheless, I ended up on this website after running a Google search on online dating. See, I too thought it was for losers and weirdos, but I’m finding out that more and more of my friends and coworkers are doing it. Since I work crazy hours, I simply don’t have time to be out flirting all the time, hoping to meet a nice, funny guy. I’m considering online dating, but I’m proceeding cautiously. I don’t want to manipulate a guy anymore than I want to be manipulated myself. And by the way, I’m not an SIF, and IF or even an F. On that note, I actually am worried that, like what I’ve experienced time after time in the real world, guys will only want to date me because of my looks and either not care much about my personality, or freak out when they find out I’m not nearly as “girly” as I look. I also never bang on a first date… so am I just wasting my time and everyone else’s time?
That was true maybe a few years ago, but it just isn’t the case anymore. Are there weirdos? Sure. There’s weirdos out preying on people in the real world too. Nevertheless, I ended up on this website after running a Google search on online dating. See, I too thought it was for losers and weirdos, but I’m finding out that more and more of my friends and coworkers are doing it. Since I work crazy hours, I simply don’t have time to be out flirting all the time, hoping to meet a nice, funny guy. I’m considering online dating, but I’m proceeding cautiously. I don’t want to manipulate a guy anymore than I want to be manipulated myself. And by the way, I’m not an SIF, and IF or even an F. On that note, I actually am worried that, like what I’ve experienced time after time in the real world, guys will only want to date me because of my looks and either not care much about my personality, or freak out when they find out I’m not nearly as “girly” as I look. I also never bang on a first date… so am I just wasting my time and everyone else’s time?
That was true maybe a few years ago, but it just isn’t the case anymore. Are there weirdos? Sure. There’s weirdos out preying on people in the real world too. Nevertheless, I ended up on this website after running a Google search on online dating. See, I too thought it was for losers and weirdos, but I’m finding out that more and more of my friends and coworkers are doing it. Since I work crazy hours, I simply don’t have time to be out flirting all the time, hoping to meet a nice, funny guy. I’m considering online dating, but I’m proceeding cautiously. I don’t want to manipulate a guy anymore than I want to be manipulated myself. And by the way, I’m not an SIF, and IF or even an F. On that note, I actually am worried that, like what I’ve experienced time after time in the real world, guys will only want to date me because of my looks and either not care much about my personality, or freak out when they find out I’m not nearly as “girly” as I look. I also never bang on a first date… so am I just wasting my time and everyone else’s time?
That was true maybe a few years ago, but it just isn’t the case anymore. Are there weirdos? Sure. There’s weirdos out preying on people in the real world too. Nevertheless, I ended up on this website after running a Google search on online dating. See, I too thought it was for losers and weirdos, but I’m finding out that more and more of my friends and coworkers are doing it. Since I work crazy hours, I simply don’t have time to be out flirting all the time, hoping to meet a nice, funny guy. I’m considering online dating, but I’m proceeding cautiously. I don’t want to manipulate a guy anymore than I want to be manipulated myself. And by the way, I’m not an SIF, and IF or even an F. On that note, I actually am worried that, like what I’ve experienced time after time in the real world, guys will only want to date me because of my looks and either not care much about my personality, or freak out when they find out I’m not nearly as “girly” as I look. I also never bang on a first date… so am I just wasting my time and everyone else’s time?
Sounds like more reason to ignore hot looking women…or do some of them not use sex to get what they want out of life?
So true. I am trying both at the moment. In one hour of game at the club, I can meet, get physical and makeout and telephone close (sometimes with the option to escalate).
Online, I’ll be lucky if I can get even move her to a date in an hour (fuck an hour, sometimes it takes a week or more). The return is definitely higher in real life.
But there’s something I just love about being able to make those shy, introverted girls fall in love with me without them having even met me. It’s a different (maybe even egotistical) type of game.
I’m sure the clubs are filled with high quality people. Heck, you, along with the rest of the clubbers, are totally not vapid halfwits that couldn’t be honest with each other if you were being paid.
What’s the “c word”?
I think it is ‘creepy’.
Oh.
Ya…because being called a creep is apparently sore anus inducing for a bunch of losers that can’t get some honest tang.
Word that ends at T and have N and U letters after C.
Unless someone is in a profession that is extremely demanding on their time, I would have difficulty understanding why they couldn’t meet people in other social forums that involved direct communication. It just seems very weak and pathetic to use the internet to meet people.
rapport: A close and harmonious relationship in which the people or groups
concerned understand each other’s feelings or ideas and communicate well
report: shit you had to do to your ex-wife on a daily basis
oops! you got me. I’d like to blame that on auto-correct but I’m sure it was my mistake
I may try online dating at some point, but I already know that it handicaps me, primarily due to #4 in this article. I’ve found that I need time with women to really shine, and the online game doesn’t offer that.
Another thing that doesn’t translate to online dating is the ability to have women sucked into your world emotionally. In real life it happens the most when you’re on fire, You approach her and things are going smoothly, you are quick on your feet, witty and can give her an experience. In short you “swoop her off her feet.” Online dating is more logical. Sure you can get a woman caught up in her emotions, but it is much harder than in real life. Online she has the time to think about what you’ve said and craft a response. If you get her going she has the chance to step back and reassess pros and cons, whereas in real life in a SNL kind of situation shes swept up in the moment and “it just happens”
LOL…keep her from being rational and realizing you are a loser.
….or you can just have sex, hang out, and what ever happens happens.
You’ve never had women turned on without even talking?
Agree 100%. In fact I meet way hotter and friendlier women in real life. Today met smoking hot babe from Romania and she gave me her phone number right away. More results in 5 seconds than hours of sending emails with no reply from internet hogs.
I couldn’t agree more.
u still with her?
Reason #7. This wench is 31? In what universe? LOLWUT? Yeah, I’m just going to quit while I’m ahead.
http://www.pof.com/viewprofile.aspx?profile_id=49706997
Online dating is good for ending dry spells. That’s what i use it for….to get the rotation up and running again. Find a couple of nice 7’s on whatever site….get it going. Bang away and keep my eyes open in the real world. I have never had a relationship with any girl i banged online. Honestly…as a guy that has done it off and on for a while…there are two types of girls online. 1.) she is on the rebound and just got dumped by her boyfriend or husband 2.) She is 29+ and is starting to freak out about not having any solid prospects for marriage so she signs up. That makes up 95% of the population.
I can put up my account and have a coupe of dates within 3 days. It’s easy pickings….but everything that is talked about here is true. The talent is subpar and as Roissy said “if she was hot, why would she be online?”
as the Seinfeld sitcom said,,,, at most, 5%of the population are good looking. If your finding 7’s online, you must be surfing with a buzz on.
There are 7’s online. About 2-3% of profiles
They probably won’t respond to most of the commenters here though.
A piece of advice for you guys. Be 100% honest. It totally gets you that pune. Everyone loves honesty.
You are a jerk. I hope you get no dates, ever.
I don’t get the point of #5. She looks pretty hot.
No more. I’m done. What I’m doing online these days is trying to find a background filter for an open source computer vision system to a program I’m building. Much more constructive. Then I’ll have a beer.
Haha, I have been a secret internet fatty, as you call them.. 😉 It was kind of fun. I managed to give this impression of a slim/normal girl, yet I was – OK, I admit it – F A T .. It is surprisingly easy. Or it was some years ago.. then it was quite understandable if you did not have many photos.. since there were technological challenges.. I always played this “I am so silly, I dont understand technology”-role. Some guys sent me airline tickets etc.. paid everything.. Some were a bit disappointed when I arrived – was a bit bigger than they expected.
I have lost over 60 lbs since. Believe it or not but it is true. I no longer do this – trick guys I mean. Anyway I am married now, so why would I do so. I cannot say that I regret though.. fun hilarious memories, some good sex memories as well..
Just so that you know: you are not as smart as you think you are.
Its repulsive when women hide their bodies. You know what we want. Stop trying to cheat. Though it is super bothersome to see a bunch of 5’s that are not hooked up..If you are a 5, you have more options because most people are 5
I am considered a “very attractive woman” by many and I do not go online for validation, I truly am very busy with my job and I don’t get out as often so online dating is easy, Plus some of my friends got married to guys they met online. But the guys ive met have been just “okay” better looking in their pics, and guys whom I would never date in real life and they knew it, so I rarely get asked out a 2nd time by average men.
Being lazy isn’t an excuse. If you sleep exactly 12 hours a day and work the other 12, then you have a point. But…you don’t.
Your friends being social retards doesn’t validate them marrying other social retards.
Socializing is a waste of time in most cases. Disliking the low bar nature of most social scenes is not a mark of social ineptitude. People solicit me all the time to go out with them. I will do it when I am paid for it otherwise I’d rather be working.
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Please. It doesn’t matter what your friends did.
Why does every one need so much validation?
I am fucking infuriated at the sheer nerve and hypocrisy.
These women find 80% of men on dating sites to be unattractive due to lack of confidence just by being ON the site to begin with and at the same time make a profile to boost your self esteem by leeching off of male attention.
Are you FUCKING serious?
No. That metric is based on photographs. Women have very unrealistic standards due to men coddling them for that pune.
You hit the nail on the head about how you can’t show confidence through messaging — and how that’s a problem.
Because of that and the fact that the attractive women on the site have 50 new dicks pointing at them every day, makes online dating tough for dudes.
It’s not enough to just be attractive, wealthy and have a nicely written profile. The messaging process is incredibly fragile in that one little thing can turn them off and they’ll switch attention to another dick.
90% of those dicks are 6″ or smaller. Don’t we all wish we were 8’s?
Wawawaaaaaaa
Their attention span is the same IRL. Derp. Its just that writing is harder than talking for most people.
Online dating has its ups and downs, but I found that a subsection of it in the form of free adult dating – MeetOutside on this site, did work when I was looking for something casual, while finding a serious relationship does take time and effort.
Serious relationships are what is called really expensive sex.
Online dating should only make up about 25% of a man’s game. The other 75% should be spent “raping, pillaging and conquering”
Rape is only acceptable as a roleplay scene.
Otherwise, the rapist deserves to bottom their own scene.
I hope you know my comment was tongue in cheek.
My friend and I tried some online dating and noticed a few things that this article touches on:
1) Eights, nines, and tens only create profiles to further inflate their egos. They have zero interest in meeting men online.
2) Girls who, in real life, are sixes or sevens, are the nines and tens of online dating. They take deceptive photos (or post old ones) to make them seem hotter than they actually are. They also believe their own hype.
3) There are a ton of thirsty dudes online. I’ve slept with a few different women I’ve met online. Their inboxes are hilarious. Some guys are so desperate and pathetic, and, as a result, are fucking things up for other guys who aren’t pathetic and desperate.
4) Even threes, fours and fives pass as attractive with deceptive photos. Nothing is worse than meeting up with a girl who looked cute in her pic, but is a whale in real life.
5) With regard to number 4, if a girl doesn’t have a full body pic, DO NOT give her the time of day. There are plenty of fatties with cute faces, but unless you’re into pumping whales, avoid these girls at all costs.
6) The less you write in your profile, the better. My friend is pretty beta, and practically writes his whole life in his profile. I barely had anything, and had a much better response rate.
7) Do not get caught up in endless messaging. Throw out a couple feelers, make her “lol,” and then ask for her number and set up a date. It’s that simple. My friend fucked up several potential dates by writing paragraphs to girls who, not surprisingly, quit responding.
The more guys are pathetic and desperate the better. Its the way they come off as confident and not desperate for hot vagina like they actually are doing something but hanging out with a pretty fuckdoll..
Go date ugly women who you actually relate to and I will start believing all the men who act like their relationships are meaningful outside of wet pune.
You’re forgetting an essential element that starts “the cycle” off: dating sites are sausage parties. POF has something like 7 to 1 ratio, men over women. That’s pretty bad from the get-go for the average Joe.
She can’t get free drinks just chatting on POF.
She can just sitting at the bar though.
Get a clue. This is all about how much more they get from the IRL scene….because you guys are all a bunch of tools that will jump through any hoop to get hot pune…..like act like your relationship isn’t fundamentally based on her hot vagina.Tell me, on the net, what gets more action…A super good looking hard on and a six pack, or moderate tits and ass?
Theres this girl I know personally is a solid 10 out of 10. Not just looks but she’s got the personality of a god damn saint.
She was a model here in Toronto and proceeded to take on the world of professional Dj’s.. she’s pretty famous here and is undoubtedly drop dead gorgeous. Her name is Shannon Young. Just as an example, her fiance, who is a good friend of mine and former classmate, is a very average guy who is barely 5ft8. Not in the greatest shape either. In fact, most of the super awesome incredible babes I knew from the Toronto undergound and trance/house dance scene, all had very super normal, average boyfriends. I too was in the social scene quite a bit in my 20’s and dated lots of 8s and 9’s, from the real life, regular social scenes. I am making a point here though.
Girls aren’t some weird science folks. Online dating is exactly just a crock of shit, folks. I don’t know a single woman I knew from back in my party days that had to ever use online dating to find guys to date or have fun with, hell we had a crew of 30+ people hitting up jams and events all over, you had to be some sort of socially inept weirdo NOT to get laid or hook up with someone VERY cute or hot.
I was married before but tried my luck with online dating. Lets just say, I certainly WILL NOT bother with that medium again.
I could go out and hang out with a bunch of morons and get a fine looking halfwit to chock on my dong.
I’d rather not validate them or the scene though.
How do I do that without letting them think what they are doing is worthy of a high quality human’s time?
The lower your IQ and looks, the less you pull on the net as a man. Its a place were the introvert (25% of the population) dominates the extrovert (75% of the population).
To the comments on “why you can’t find the time to get out”
…because most people are losers and are a total bore to be around.
Really. Stop validating women because they are hot. If you wouldn’t talk to them if they were ugly, tell them straight up and stop being a lying loser.