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4 Trifling Conversations American Women Love To Have That Fry Your Brain

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I was out with one of my readers the other night, who had the good fortune of never really coming across an American woman in his life. But this month, he’s traveling through a few parts of Europe that are more dense (quite literally, in this case) with American women. And you know what he said to me?

I’ve only heard an American girl speak a few times in my life before this week, but now that I have heard them…I don’t understand. What the fuck is the nonsense that they are talking about, all the time?

I couldn’t help but laugh at his complete shock. I also couldn’t help but laugh in despair at the fact that I really didn’t have any answer for him. I guess that’s a perk when you live in a country too dangerous for your average female to venture into solo. After we’d said our goodbyes, I figured I’d sit down and write out a list of the most pointless conversations that American women most often have. Here’s what I came up with.

1. Food And Drinks

The next time you are out with more than one female at a restaurant, I dare you to count how many times you hear the words “yummy”, “so good”, “tasty”, “OMG”, “divine”, and, my personal favorite for outright stupidity, “delish”.

Honestly, over the course of a one-hour meal, it’s pretty common to hear these adjectives dropped at least 50 times. If you order fancy cocktails or an appetizer, or, heaven forbid—dessert—prepare to double the amount of descriptive words.

Of course, no girl can be a downer when out with her friends. You could feed them a steaming pile of local artisan dog shit at the local Asian joint and they’d still be ooh-ing and aah-ing about how divine the local canine turd is. It’s all about immersion, right?

It’s not even just those basic bitch adjectives—it’s how in detail they can talk nonsense about a food as if they’ve been a top chef at a Michelin 5-star restaurant.

Seriously, you don’t need to have a 15 minute conversation about your “craft burger.” It’s a piece of meat with lettuce, tomato, onions, and ketchup—the ketchup is one step above Heinz so therefore it can now be called “craft”. There’s a piece of bread around all of it, with some potatoes on the side. No, just because they sprinkled a little bit of Parmesan cheese on them does not make them “craft french fries”. End of discussion.

Even worse is the foodies who throw out all the nonsense terms. American girls have to always one-up each other (especially on Instagram), so they talk using fancy culinary terms—and they don’t know what any of them mean.

For extra fun, the next time you’re out with a girl and she brags about ordering an artisanal, rustic, curated, or farm-to-table dish, ask her to actually explain what it means. The look of panic upon her face will be priceless.

2. Reality TV

If you’ve ever worked in a female-friendly office, you know exactly what I mean. “Meetings” that end up being an hour-long recap of the recent Bachelorette episode, while no work actually gets done. It’s the equivalent of water cooler talk for men, except it goes on forever.

I guess that’s what happens when girls have nothing to live for except careers that they hate. It’s what happens when they forego marriage and motherhood in favorite of idolizing the latest slut to spread her legs for 3 different dudes in 3 nights.

3. Political Talk

If you haven’t learned by now, it’s pretty hopeless to have a worthwhile political discussion with an American girl. Foreign girls can be just as bad, but at least you don’t have to worry about them becoming outraged and triggered. You can have the discussion, but any and all logical points will instantly be cancelled out by feelings. Unfortunately, today’s world is dictating more and more than feelings are the basis for an argument instead of reality.

It’s funny, because even (some) guys who have opposite political beliefs than I can debate logically. Often times, we reach a point of mutual understanding within minutes. He learns that I don’t love everything about Trump, and I learn that he hated Hillary and just wanted some sort of middle ground.

Good luck reaching a mutual understanding on politics when debating an American girl. And yes, the conversations they have with each other are even more pointless. Rather than talking about pros versus cons, instead it becomes a huge orgy of good feelings. No one dares speak out of place in fear of upsetting the other hens, so the conversation just goes round and round, just like the craft burger speak.

4. Relationships

As someone who has quite a fair bit of experience in the dating world, I’ve had plenty of girls approach me for advice about a specific situation in their dating lives. And how often do you think any of them have actually followed my advice? Never.

It’s not uncommon to hear girls talk about a specific thing a guy said or did, no matter how minuscule and insignificant it is, for hours on end. Never is anything actually done to move forward in the conversation—the same things are constantly rehashed, re-analyzed, and then the friend doing the listening makes the one complaining feel good. Granted, men are often guilty of the same thing—over-analyzing text messages or online dating conversations. 

American women, however, take it to a whole other level. It used to be that that kind of gossip was left for sleepovers or private, in-home nights with a bottle of wine and friends. Now though, it’s fair game to shout out all the details (including the dirty details) in restaurants, on public transit, and anywhere else that they can share the story with the rest of the world.

Closing Thoughts

A decent pair of noise-cancelling headphones is becoming an increasingly good investment when out in public. I’m thankful that the majority of my interactions and day-to-day life don’t involve any of this, but when I do hear it, I can’t help but cringe—because people like my reader, who have never been exposed to it, are dead on with their analysis.

And that is a lot of time being wasted out in the world.

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574 thoughts on “4 Trifling Conversations American Women Love To Have That Fry Your Brain”

  1. Good Article Kyle. Passers note, a woman telling you her dirty laundry in the relationship is a slut tell. You can either choose to be coy, or bluntly lead her to getting fucked by you. If she doesn’t agree to this, she won’t bring it up to you again so two problems solved and if she does fuck, you know when she’s ready to go; if she chooses to bring up the topic again. This is also equally true when women look to ‘the expert’ on relationship advice. They just want a good pounding.

    1. What so many chumps do not realize is that women rarely talk to guys at all that they wouldn’t bang on some level without necessity, and they’re always trying to give a sign or be receptive to advances. The more flair on their vest, the more direct they are.

  2. I like to stand outside the local taxpayer-funded ‘women’s information service’ and leech free wi-fi to download porn.

    1. how does that expression go? better to not open your mouth and let other think youre dumb rather than speak and remove all doubt?

  5. The moral of the story: don’t listen to women talk for anything other than tells

  6. There seems to be word getting out, at least in flyover country, that “right wing” are the new hot bad boys. Every woman I’ve spoken to in the last 2 years who seems interested in me is very quick to offer up her “right wing”/”pro-Trump” politics without being asked a single word about it. Sometimes it’s subtle “I’ve always wanted to get a concealed carry license!” all the way up to wearing a MAGA shirt/hat or saying it in a conversation, to whispering how loathsome Clinton and Sanders were. I mean they just lead right up front with this. I’m also hearing “alpha male” a lot more from women without the conversation even meriting it. The politics word has gotten out, I think, that guys that display actual normal to high levels of testosterone are likely right wing and they seem to have agreed among themselves to bring up right wing stuff in a conversation.
    Me: “You know, I really do like Jello brand gelatin”
    Her: “OMG! Me Too! And now that Trump is in office taxes will go down so we can buy more of it!”
    Me: “It’s a beautiful day out isn’t it?”
    Her: “It really is! It seems like a nice day to go out shooting, you know, if you have a gun. I love shooting but I’ve never gotten to do much of it!” (actual conversation here)
    Her – wearing something with a right wing message, or wearing gun shaped jewelry (it exists, I’m seeing it more and more).
    We are the trendy edgy bad boys now, guys, at least in flyover. Use this to your advantage.
    Off of that, another conversational thing that drives me mad is talking about the same freaking subject over and over again if it involves planning something. My wife is awful about this.
    Day 1
    Her: “So do you think we should drive to Montana or Wyoming?”
    Me: “Both. Like I said the other day.”
    Day 2
    Her: “So, are you still thinking Montana and Wyoming ooooorrrr….?”
    Me: “Yes, like I said the other day”
    Day 3
    Her: “Just checking, we’re certain about Montana and Wyoming still?”
    Me: “Yes!” (in a slightly irritated tone)
    Her: “Why are you yelling/angry/mad?!??!?!”

    1. The women are just jumping on the winner’s bandwagon. Conservative men have finally found their balls and it also helps that more and more young men are waking up. The choice between pasty faced, good-for-nothing, limp-wristed liberals and traditional, fit, stylish and gun-toting conservatives is easily a no brainer.

      1. Oh, no question. It’s just interesting to see. I noticed long before Trump won though, when the Meme Wars were really starting to heat up. I just find it interesting how it’s all at once and how it is the lead in for almost every woman out her in flyover nowadays, at least around my stomping grounds. I don’t want to know her politics, but she wants me to know that she digs mine (even though I don’t mention them, she will guess based on my high T appearance and manner of dressing/talking).

        1. GOJ I’ve seen this too. I
          Especially in former lefty Millennial women. It’s like they’re saying “I can finally find a real man” and they can’t hold back that conservativism are what’s cool. Unlike the left, conservative men tend to be high T alphas, so the women respond to this. Good thing in my eyes

        2. That is not the case at all in Cleveland… and you have no idea how refreshing it sounds.

        3. Cleveland is its own hell and we really should get a petition signed to send it off to Canada. Everything true about Ohio in general is not true in Cleveland. That”s a given. The only thing that they are forced, by law, to follow that the rest of Ohio follows, are our gun laws. Everything else they buck and kick and scream and threaten. Cede them to Canada and be done with it, I say.

        4. There’s like 2 actual gun shops in the county. And no ranges.

        5. Yeah, I hear that they’ve tried to zone a lot of that out. But they can’t stop open or concealed carry, we’ve sued the shit out of that city enough times, and by Ohio law they have to pay for us to do so if we win, that they’ve given up the ghost on those counts.
          I freaking hate Cleveland.
          Hey, incidentally, if you’re ever down in CBus or vicinity, give me a shout (email in profile).

        8. Right. Most conservatives are high-T, manly truck driver types; while most liberals are 90lb vegan, pacifist hippies who might as well have vaginas themselves. Yeah… THAT’S what reality looks like.

        9. IDK where you live but you just described about 90% of every liberal in NYC

        11. Cleveland is an outlier in Ohio. It is like someone took New England and put it in Ohio. Consider it actually used to be part of Connecticut.

        12. But here’s the real question for everyone:
          How many 90lb soy latte hipsters could you beat up in a fight?
          Personally I’d put my money about 4-5.

        13. That is most Liberals anywhere. Its almost as obvious as skin color. You look at them and you know.

        14. Those 90lb soy latte boys get ptsd from pro Trump meme on the internet. You think they will do anything other than wet their panties in a real confrontation? haha

      1. It’s madness. I hate getting into vacation discussions especially because we’ll sit down initially when it actually is required, hash out where we’re going, where we’re staying, what we’re seeing and a general itinerary. Ok, cool. And when it’s time to make reservations it’s perfectly fine to say “So we’re good on this still? I’m about to commit money to hotels/flights/rented cars”. No problem. But instead I’ll get the situation as noted above, just bringing up the same thing over and over again after the plan was already settled on. Gah.

        1. You know she is telling you something that you aren’t hearing, right? The repeated questions about the destination means that she doesn’t like the destination and wants you to “just get it” and psychically divine where she really wants to go.

        2. Oh, you’d think that right? I thought that at first. No, it can be about places SHE wants to go and has requested to visit, and she’ll need it reaffirmed fifteen times in a month.
          I don’t miss anything in context with girls nowadays.

        3. Oh, I see. She needs you to reaffirm the correctness of her decision because hamster. I get it. Hate it for you, man.

        4. It really, really rubs on my nerves.

        5. Especially because you know, if something goes wrong, she’ll hamster it all into being your idea of insisting on it, lol.

    3. These women are mate hunting, pure and simple. Look at every stupid craze that originally involved nothing but guys before the women showed up and it became mainstream. Geekdom. MGTOW. The list goes on.

      1. Right, a prime example of “women will follow the lead of men”. How men don’t see that they are the actual leaders, whether they’re being strong or being weak, baffles me.

    4. They’re following projected confidence. Many women are herd animals.
      If a man projects enough confidence in libertarian open-borders philosophy, for example, she’ll follow him. If he projects confidence in mass slaughter of political enemies, she’ll follow that too. I project confidence in my own centrist liberal democracy position, and women follow me for it.
      It’s not politics; it’s evo psych.

      1. Right, no question. I’m just noticing that it seems to be a lead in out here nowadays without you ever mentioning your politics first. If you look high T she WILL tell you her politics before it ever gets brought up by you. And by her politics, I mean what she guesses yours are. Plus the gun-jewelry thing, they’re casting their lines hard for right wing guys out here a lot lately.

        1. When you say flyover country you can’t include cities. Girls in Cincinnati and Louisville aren’t chasing after conservative bad boys at all.

    5. The gulf between liberal/conservative and alpha/beta guys seems like it’s growing, too. I feel like the younger guys in my office are pretty easy to pigeonhole politically by just looking at them. Avoiding eye contact, higher-pitched voices, feminine body language, soft/fair skin, etc. (The sudden growth of beards among the nu-males is understandable – these guys would look like 12 year olds without them.)
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7e2e6b765c63fc55842d2f23f00603509f6ba182dddf7fcbe01649db0fc3a812.jpg
      Whereas I knew some reasonably manly liberal guys in college in the early 00’s. And many older gentlemen like my father are really hard to fit into the alpha/beta dichotomy.

      2. Leftists used to have some masculine men, almost all of them from their union demographic. Since they’ve basically abandoned white blue collar workers as a declared matter of policy, even those kind no longer exist by and large for the Left any longer (or is dwindling so fast that their numbers are irrelevant).

        2. Yeah, and in the South, the Democrats used to be the party of cretins who believed in total and complete segregation between the races. Party lines mean little, in history; the demographics are always migrating back and forth across them.
          Prediction: When the current GOP infrastructure finally heaves its last breath in or around 2020 (all due to the upcoming Russia scandal — it is truly the political nuclear bomb of all nuclear bombs), then patriotic conservatives who grew disenchanted with that party will regroup and form a new conservative party to replace it. This has happened before; the 1850s were a turbulent period for party politics too.

        4. Not going into politics with you, outside of neutral parameters as in what girls like/don’t like. Keep your Rusha fantasies to yourself or tell them to somebody who hasn’t learned yet not to deal with the madness of trying to discuss politics with you, heh.
          Outside of your reasoning about “Muh Rusha” though, I do think a new conservative party will come about and is far overdue.

        5. I guess you don’t watch or read the news. You might want to check out what’s been going on with the president’s son.

        6. They just keep inventing new “gotcha!” things that they assure us will be the final straw. Once that fake scandal drops they forget they ever paid attention to it and move on to the new scandal which, assuredly, is the final nail in the coffin.
          Somehow, in their little bubble, they don’t consider that the rest of us are looking at them and shaking our heads at how boring it’s getting. It’s kind of funny to watch in a way.

        7. Just in passing.
          It is nothing more than the dying left making a mountain out of a mole hill. All international businesses deal with the governments of foreign countries in one way or the other..

        8. You’re entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts. You might want to check out the facts of DJT Jr’s meeting with Russians. There’s a lot more of this coming out.

        9. Understood, but I highly doubt either of us (and certainly not the fake media) has access to the “facts”.

        10. Please, stop it. This is a thread about women and how they talk. Let’s not sperg out on politics, yet again, so soon please.

        13. doesn’t he tweet ever time he takes a shit?
          Trump having a secret is an impossible scenario.

        14. Stop it. Please. If you get him going it will be ten pages of bickering. Let it go, for the sake of all of our sanity.

        16. Yes, and in that email, a representative of a foreign government offered him dirt on his father’s political opponent. DJT Jr’s response: “I love it.” Yesterday, the London editor of Breitbart wrote an an internal memo, “So like, this is straight up collusion. Right?”
          Mods: Please note the article was partly about politics, I’m responding to a direct question, and I’m stating facts.

        17. It will more likely form over the frustration of repubs having the majority and not following through on all the promises they made. They betrayed the Tea Party after leveraging it for gaining majorities. They are working against Trump on some of his more conservative efforts.

        18. Ya know, that’s legal right? According to every lawyer who actually deals in campaign law that I’ve read, no problem. Foreign people can volunteer information. Problems start to arise if money starts to become involved.
          Hence why Obama did the untraceable donation thing during his presidential campaign. Why the Clinton’s have to launder foreign donations via their foundation.

        23. Outside of politics he’s actually a decent guy. He just hasn’t really bought into the red pill fully, not enough to recognize that his “moderate leftism” (ha!) is just the female psyche writ large into politics.

        24. Campaigns, all campaigns, do opposition research– they’ll talk to anyone who might have information they can use. Anyway– I’ll try and get back on topic
          GoJs observation about women adopting the man’s positions and attitudes is something that scared my daughters when they observed them in their mother. She started listening to music she previously disliked etc., then tell them this is just ‘who she is’. Well, it wasn’t who she was before–and they’ve seen her chameleon a couple of times now changing partners. The idea that there’s no core person — no there, there- is uncomfortable if you accept it’s a female trait.

        25. There is only one party, the political elite party, and they pretend to fight Repubs versus Dems to keep the ignorant masses entertained and distracted.

        28. I’m not getting into this discussion. I’m not going to do it. I’ve having a great day so far. I am not going to ruin it by battering my head against a brick wall.
          Nope.
          Not going to do it.

        31. It’s collusion, which is a crime. National Review is calling it “failed collusion”, which sounds accurate to me, but that doesn’t matter. In a court of law, intent is all that matters. My father is an attorney with forty-five years of legal experience, and here’s his take: “Donald Jr. is in deep, deep shit.”
          Here’s the National Review link. Read the whole thing; it’s good. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/449376/donald-trump-jr-e-mails-proof-trump-campaign-attempted-collusion-russia

        32. Yup. As long as they are getting fat and rich, they don’t care about anything else. They’ll sell the country out from under us and legalize necrophillic pedophilia for the right price.

        34. They just follow orders. “Now we’re gonna make you president. And you’re gonna do what we fucking say or – well, you know what’ll happen.” It’s like that.

        35. This I believe is the actual reason and not some silly “Muh Rusha” fantasy pipe dream.

        36. To be clear, “collusion” is not a crime, which the National Review article acknowledges.
          Also, intent is not all that matters in a court of law, not by a long shot.
          I don’t point out either of these facts to defend Trump Jr. or the Trump campaign.
          As the National Review article states, senior officials of an American political campaign meeting with people alleging themselves to be representatives of the Russia government for the purpose of getting political dirt on an American political opponent is disgusting. It shows that Trump Jr., at least, cared more about winning the campaign than upholding the pro-America values attitude of the campaign rhetoric.
          I’ll wait and see what is next. This looks like a good deal of smoke, meaning there may be a fire here.
          But we’ve seen smoke in the Trump camp before, and its usually turned out to be a big ass trap into which the media and the Dems eagerly throw themselves. I really can’t discount the chance that this is just another noose that Trump is letting his political enemies fit around their own necks.

        39. The mere fact that there was even a question about Obama’s birth status should have disqualified him. No one cared. And no one cares about this “scandal”

        41. I’m still a birther at heart. I can’t let go of the needling suspicion that he was born in Kenya. At the very least, he marketed himself as being born in Kenya, and used that assumption to his advantage in his younger days.

        42. The logic fail on the left though is that is will me more to the right – it will not benefit the Dems that Republicans have obstructed things people voted for and wanted. No one is going to say, “I voted for Trump to build the wall, and the Republican congress blocked it, so this time I’m voting for a democrat who is going to block it harder.” What those people are going to say is “let’s throw out these cucks and get some real Republicans in here.”

        43. I don’t usually read the NYT — but this morning, it published a piece written by the ethics lawyers for George W. Bush and Barack Obama. They both call the DJT Jr. scandal “a bombshell” and say that it “raises a host of potential criminal and other legal violations for Donald Jr. and others involved”. Including campaign finance violations, since oppo research has as much real value to a political campaign as financial contributions do, if not more. Read the article yourself, if you don’t believe me.
          My question: How much smoke does the average man need to see before he admits that a fire has been raging?

        44. Except capitulating to Democrats is the one and only thing “real Republicans” are good at.

        45. Yeah, I’m using “real” in the actual conservative sense, not the credentialed party water carrier sense.

        46. Look, I’m biased. I admit I’m biased. But I’m not biased in favor of Trump, I’m biased because I absolutely hate the media and the leftist tardsharks that are the main ones pushing this Russia narrative.
          I admitted this makes Trump Jr and the campaign look really bad. If it was Hillary, I’m sure I would be where you are on it, calling for impeachment. But I’m willing to give Trump a little more rope because of my bias.
          I also know damn well and good that anyone at this level of politics is engaging in shit like this and much worse. The things we know Hillary did are 10 times worse than this, and yet the people raging at Trump treat her like a saint.
          None of that excuses bad behavior by Trump, but I think we have to be realistic. Politics is a total cesspool of lying, thieving, corrupt bastards. No one who plays in that cesspool is going to stay clean.
          So the reality is that there is a spectrum here, and I haven’t seen enough smoke to make me think there is a fire worse than anything Hillary, or Bush, or Sanders, or Romney, or any of those fucks has done.

        48. I understand where you are coming from but the people calling themselves “conservatives” don’t exactly have that great a track record here, either.

        50. That’s cool too. But the older I get, the less I suffer fools gladly.
          Now, I can be pretty patient with kids, old peeps, and others deserving of my patience. But I’ve have had it up to here with leftie rhetoric permeating America and other western countries, and I avoid it whenever possible.

        52. The lawsuit the Clinton supporting lawyer filed had an additional point that was a bit more interesting. For Obama to have lived and gone to school in Indonesia, his mother would have had to give up his citizenship. Technically, to regain it he would have needed to have reasserted it as an adult by taking an oath before a representative of the state department. A big nothing burger in reality as the remedy was easy (even if you didn’t simply accept his oaths of office as qualifying).

        53. They don’t follow through with anything. Everything, even their work is all talk. They never, ever get to the point where their ideas become reality. They don’t design and build anything, they just talk. Within the hypothetical world there are no consequences thus no right and wrong. Gun control ? Talk, talk talk. Abortion, all talk. Immigration/refugees etc ? All talk. They never have to face the consequences of anything. Until Trump stood up on stage, nationally televised mind you, and called people liars DIRECTLY to their FACES it was all talk for the republicans too. Jeb Bush being called a fake tough guy and a sissy was a once in a lifetime event. Women tire of things, they like the emotional stimulus of change more than any one thing itself and after being banged out for a half a decade I think that the titilation of playing a good woman seems very exciting. Also, who the hell could stand a bossy woman ? They must feel the same about submissive men on some level.

        55. Left-wing feminist cunts have a term for masculine leftist men that don’t buy SJW crap. They call them “brocialists” and “manarchists”. Look up Jason Unruhe. He’s part of a section of classical Marxists that criticizes SJW’s. He gets called that all the time and he looks pretty masculine and built to me

        61. Understood. I do confess a guilty pleasure is watching such viewpoints get dog-piled into oblivion though…

        63. His mother lived around seattle before his birth.
          He was born in Canada.
          And his first passport was Indonesian

        65. It is called the battle of the sexes for a reason. “Either you are with us, or against us.”

        66. Things are changing. The MSM is hysterically undermining their own credibility for all to see. Information gathering is decentralizing around the smoking crater that was the ‘news’ business. President Trump’s election made it clear to any willing to acknowledge that almost all our ‘journalists’ are in fact partisan leftist apparatchiks. MSM=Marxist Subvert Media.

        67. I think right after they swear a president in, they take them into a special room in the Whitehouse and show them the footage of what ACTUALLY happened with JFK. Then they say “this is what happens when you don’t play ball. Any questions?”.

        68. So, Obama & the Clintons are dirty but Trump smells like a f*cking rose. Got it. Jesus f*cking Christ. I see the same 5 of you posting all day every day on every thread, but somehow y’all are “alphas” out there “slaying bitches and taking over the world”. F*cking laughable.

        70. There is actually a “Federalist Party” trying to form. Their site doesn’t have much going on yet, but they’re philosophically on the right track and literally just started. Most of our issues are an imbalance between the branches and layers of government. Worth trying to breath life into it.

        72. He’s still masculine enough. Still more masculine than 80% of average guys and 99.99999% of leftist guys.
          That’s why he’s labeled a “brocialist”.
          What’s with the Brazzers logo?

      3. And it will continue to split wider. The more they try to do what women tell them, the less they will be respected by women, then the more women will flock towards Alpha men, the more bitter and entrenched in their thinking they become. Go to any feminist website, and you will see how quickly they get enraged. The women will be patting him on the back (much like you pat a dogs back for performing a trick), but they complain that they cannot have a woman stay with them.

      4. YES. When I was in college, the man bun and weak-jawed simps with beards was so prolific, you would think that it was what got you laid every night. I personally hate having a beard and look better with the clean Aryan superman look. If a guy can’t look like a viking with a beard, he’s low T. And don’t even get me started on tiny guys with chinstraps….

        1. If you’re not at least above average buff, a big bushy beard would look weird on you

    7. Haha. This is something I think the single guys around here really can’t fully comprehend. I hear your story and imagine my own personal hell – the actual drive where my wife has a compulsion to fill every moment of silent time with words because apparently it makes her uncomfortable for people to sit together in silence. I just want to focus on the road, enjoy the scenery, listen to music, and I only want to speak if a topic of interest crosses my mind. She will speak about random, pointless, annoying shit just to hear words coming out of someone’s mouth every minute or so. She doesn’t even really listen to the conversation she’s trying to start. How do I know? If I had a nickel for every thing I’ve told her during one of these episodes that she subsequently didn’t recall, I would already be retired.
      But if you handle this the wrong way, you are in for a long and unpleasant ride, so I have discovered that the best thing to do is to deflect whatever random shit she says, switch to something I AM actually interested in talking about, which, because it is typically way over her head, will buy me a good five minutes of silence until the next round. Particularly fucking annoying to go through this when a song I love is on and I’m in the zone…..

      1. Women bond by getting together and talking (usually without much doing).
        Men bond by getting together and doing (usually without much talking).

      3. That’s what I love about dating girls where English is their second language…. their vocabulary is limited for endless chatter.

    8. if it’s cool to be altright then stick to that. If it’s true that most women just follow the herd, than make it “cool” to be rightminded and uncool to be a SJW (which it in fact is, unbelievable how many people followed that idiology for that long)

      In Germany I still get banned from every blog for social darwinism, racism, holocaust relativisation and other retarded accusements and non-left hardly has a chance.

    9. Overton window. Women would jump on any bandwagon as long as it’s socially advantageous for them to do so.

    10. Jello?
      …
      …
      What did you put in her drink, ghost?
      …
      And do you have any Kodak pictures of the ensuing events?

    11. They can smell the extra testosterone seeping out of our pores. They will say anything to get it implanted. I get hardcore bleeding heart Liberals into me all the time, and they hate me for being me, and try to change me while pretending I’m not me, but they still want the man gravy on their two scoops. Cognitive dissonance is their bread and butter.

    12. It’s interesting to hear someone else 1000 miles away confirm what i’ve been thinking to be true. I’ve been saying that blue collar/right wing is the new counter culture for YEARS. I do construction, rock a shaved head, lift weights, play outdoors, etc and have no problems bringing home the arty little hipster girls.

  7. There is some irony in the vast number of women today who are food obsessed, yet finding one who knows how to cook is an extreme rarity.

    1. A real “foodie” would be somebody who cooked new things to try them. Their “foodie” is them saying “I like to eat lots and lots of food” and is an indicator of wanting to get really fat, really quickly, if she isn’t already.

      1. There’s little in this world like trying something new and producing a quality meal. Believe it or not, I hadn’t made meatloaf before last night. I knew basically what it needed, and I tweaked the recipe here and there, and somehow it tastes just like mama used to make.

      2. ha, foodies is used as “lets try that new taco place for taco tuesday and get sloshed on margaritias” by these cows more often than not.

        1. Good Christ, how did tacos suddenly became so trendy for women go say they “love” all over social media or dating sites? Did Kim Kardashian or any of the other black cock cumbuckets in that family say it or something?

        2. I was wondering that myself. I mean yeah, tacos are good but they have really become like the next big thing.

        3. It’s actually poke now (maybe Lady Gaga said it was cool? Some scumbucket degenerate from the entertainment industry with a dumpwater vagina had to have for them all to copycat!), tacos have been usurped. After all, tacos replaced peanut butter which replaced bacon in the milieu of female social media fad-centric cliché foods. Every year it seems to be something new.

        4. Pshh. You mean Double Stuffed Chalupas. And before you go anywhere with the “double-stuffed,” I vote we take the high ground on this one.

        5. Nah, I can leave “I’m sure you like your chalupas like you like your women—double stuffed” out therr

        6. …make sure any girl you take to Taco Bell gets a Baja Blast. And before you go anywhere with the “Baja Blast,” I vote we take the even-higher ground on this one.

        7. I have never not will ever be in a Taco Bell however I do give a thumbs up to their marketing team

        8. My friend’s an elder (at 32) in a LDS church. He’s never had Taco Bell either. You’re missing precisely dick, but in a pinch, it’s faster than the grocery store, and gives fewer stomach aches than the Burger King.

      3. I never understood the obsession with taking/posting pics of something you are about to consume. Unless it’s a mastodon or Komodo dragon or homo sapien or something bizarre and rare, why even bother with the sad attempt at attention whoring?

        1. I’ve visited Komodo Island last year. Even those beasts walk more gracefully than American women in general.
          Shocking.
          Oh wait. No. It’s not that shocking.

        2. It is because of the high volume of penises consumed. The food is rare in comparison.

        3. Women brag a lot yet they think men are always competing about who got the better cars etc.

      4. I always want to slap people who tell me that they are “foodies”. Such a vacuous term.

        1. Bob, I find myself suppressing that impulse so frequently & for so many reasons these days…don’t know how much longer I can hold out.

        2. Former Professional chef of 10+ years. Chefs hate foodies even though these idiots will overpay for anything “different”. Great for food cost %, horrible to talk to. They’re the useful idiots of the culinary world. Who the hell blogs about eating food and takes themselves seriously?

        3. “Foodies” are like the pretentious idiots who prattle on about wine. None of us want to hear their opinions. We just wish that they would enjoy it and shut the hell up.

        4. They are usually pretentious wankers who have to show how supposedly “sophisticated” they are.

      5. Most of them aren’t even smart enough to lock down a betabux before they get too fat and are resigned to blowjob queening and catfarming.

    2. Recently was in the US, saw an Asian guy with a white girl, the guy was a doctor, bought his wife a Tesla, his wife was white, kind of thick but not fat, they both walked into a Chipotle to eat. I would say damn, if I was that guy I would expect her to cook for me if I bought her a $90,000 dollar car.

        1. She was busted, not attractive at all. Not the kind that would get a good white guy.
          There is something ironic about a woman obsessed with food and farm to table “cuisine” but cannot even boil an egg.

        4. Guess he can’t be Pabst anymore if they give him the participation trophy instead of the Blue Ribbon.

      3. I made the mistake of telling my hopelessly spoiled son, who is now 18-1/2 that I would buy him any car he wanted for his 16th birthday (= driver’s license), “But you have to get a *J-O-B* and work to pay for the gasoline!”
        So, of course, he selected a Tesla Model S–P85D sedan!
        But no, it’s not a $90,000 car. As they are actually purchased it’s more like $140,000 all in.

        1. Better to get a luxury car with a real pedigree and a real engine, like a Mercedes S Class. They have Hybrid sedans and you can do good for the environment and save on gas with them with a car that is made by a company that has been around for a century.
          Tesla’s brand image took a hit after they didn’t do so well in the crash tests. If you pay that kind of money for a car, you want to be able to walk away from it just in case you wind up in an accident.
          Mercedes has issues with maintenance and repair costs but they are one of the safest cars on the roads.

    3. Also ironic that these “foodies” have no idea what food is actually exceptional.
      My wife and I limit our indulgence in nice restaurants – those lauded by foodies – to three or four times per year, mainly for birthdays and anniversaries.
      After all these years, I can still count on one hand with fingers left over the few restaurants that have really impressed me. Many are fine, but certainly not worth the extravagant price. Women equate price and swank with the cuisine itself. It’s a reflection of their obsession with status and their herd mentality. But for me, at those prices, you really have to prepare food in an exceptional and imaginative way to impress me, and most places are nowhere near it. Every Top Chef audition reject is convinced he has opened the next French Laundry.

      1. 85% is just varying combos of salt and fat, with a few signature items that may be worth having a brief conversation about. Fine dining is a rare thing, even in a “food town” where competition is high.

        1. Most “fine dining” places in most cities are a sham. If they aren’t mongering fish, cutting their own meat, and getting fresh produce deliveries like every other day, you’re just paying for decor and to feel special.

      2. Real butter, salt, pepper, garlic and lemon juice and some fresh parsley does amazing things to almost anything. As a former career chef, I can say I NEVER eat out because it is such a waste of money and usually crap.

    4. What is surprising is the fat chicks can’t cook and yet a skinny chick can cook.

      1. No surprise. Anyone who cooks from scratch at home usually maintains a healthy weight.

        1. Can Confirm. The more “refined” the food, the more time consuming it is to prepare. If it wasn’t for manufactured foods, people would starve to death trying to live off of croissants and fancy tarts. The best dishes of many cuisines are usually peasant foods that either did their own thing for 10 hours or get thrown together in 10 minutes.

        1. Let me fix that for ya. Most women of all sizes suck at it. My grandfather was a short order cook. My uncle was a chef and restaurateur. I am a quite accomplished amateur chef. I know only a few women who are accomplished cooks. Mostly they do what ever the cook book or their mother tells them and makes no changes. That is a sign of a poor cook, with no self confidence.
          BTW, there is an old saying: Never trust a skinny cook.

    5. “There is some irony in the vast number of women today who are food obsessed, yet finding one who knows how to cook is an extreme rarity”
      Indeed. They think that cooking means microwaving a frozen tv dinner of macaronic & cheese.

      1. And even then they fight over it and when they finally get it done they act all proud about it acting like they cooked something. I mean boiling spaghetti noodles in hot water alone isn’t really cooking either, that would be making noodles from scratch. I’ve done it before and let me tell you those store bought noodles are devoid of nutrients, hand made noodles gave me so much energy like it had a lot of vitamins and minerals, I guess store bought ones were stripped of nutrients

        1. “I mean boiling spaghetti noodles in hot water alone isn’t really cooking either”
          I hear ya – yet I know plenty of bitches who end up burning water when they try to boil it.

    6. Charles, there’s a difference between people who love food and people who love eating…you’re referring to people who love eating, however they might frame it.

    7. I can cook, but my boyfriend is super into cooking so I let him get excited and go to his fish person or cheese person and whip something up. In exchange, while he cooks I do his laundry. I’ve had many many $500+ dinners at Michelin starred restaurants and honestly, with a few exceptions they start to taste the same. I deeply love terrible low brow food (taco bell is the king) because it’s almost exotic. I get it a handful of times a year and it’s always great. I accept it for what it is, subpar meat “product”. I don’t give a shit about some $30 ramen burger, trying that doesn’t make you special. You’re just some chump who sat around waiting to eat some overpriced nonsense. Being a foodie, unless you went to cooking school, or maybe lived in Europe, it doesn’t make you unique. Also PSA- PIZZA ISNT A HOBBY! THANK YOU.

    13. Back when common sense was evidence derived, observations of this sort would bear testament to the lack of utility found in most American women. If men could make more men without women, their species would be extinct in like 3 generations or less, depending on the advancements of artificial robot lovers. I’ve come to terms with my cheauvanism and have no problem telling my own mother that I’ve rarely met a woman with value beyond physical gratification.

  8. The short version: They’re too fucking stupid to bother talking with.
    “Young lady, since there’s nothing of value coming out of your mouth, I’ll just jam my dick in there.”

  9. Bimbo airhead talk. That is one drawback with going for the young women. They have little life experience, little in common with you, little brain power. If you throw away the TV, and she has kids to raise, conversations will mostly center around them. Political conversations are telling. A leftist believes in wealth redistribution, which will be applied into the relationship as well should you decide to commit. However, when talking politics, I think it is wise to stick to theory and avoid talking about specifics. Yes, we know Hillary is dishonest, but calling her our will only get defensiveness and finger pointing back.

    1. Figuring out an individual’s political beliefs is a good way to figure out their character. But women usually have a herd mentality, so it is sometimes difficult to find out what they truly believe in.

      1. Not hard at all. She will, or will come to, believe everything you believe in if you maintain frame and don’t simper and agree to her “beliefs” out of the gate.

        1. The problem is that most guys are low t simps who don’t know how to properly control their women. The same applies to most fathers. Women want men that act like men it is ingrained in their brain.

      2. That herd mentality is a good thing if you are in a relationship though. My wife started out with a little chip on her shoulder, sort of a career girl mentality, without the career. Over the years, it has been whittled away through conversations, and she is content being a homemaker.

      3. There is a herd mentality in public,but behind the scenes there is constant arguing and bitching about other women.

    2. Heh, I’m so blunt and rough around the edges regarding talking about specific personalities. It startles people and they don’t know how to respond. A hipster will start cooing about Bernie and I’ll offer right up front “That sniveling old little socialist owns several homes and became a millionaire through tax dollars and couldn’t give two shits about you, ironic glasses wearing nimrod”.

      1. “Nimrod” is a term that does not get used often enough. In fact, many of the terms of my youth that seem to have fallen by the wayside – dweeb, goober, chode, etc… – seem apt descriptors for this crop of limp-wristed fagadoodles.

        1. i still use chode, i love that one.My go to is scrub, and if i am really feeling it i’ll call em a gooch

        2. As I’ve noted on occasion, it is my semi-serious mission to re-introduce recently (since the myopic Millenials) dropped but highly useful words back into the English language. Millenials are the ultimate democratizers of language, they’ve nearly reduced our working vocabulary by 1/3 what it once was by consolidating so many disparate ideas into meta-words.

        3. Goober!!!! I used to love that one. I used chose just last week. I’m so glad I haven’t lost my immaturity.

        4. Gooch!! Haha you need to quit stealing Arnold’s lunch money or Willis is gonna get a! Haha

      2. Man had been a politician longer than I have been alive. Bernie has no real life work experience I don’t see how people take anything he says about jobs or anything serious. Also the dude supports a 15 dollar minimum wage yet pays his interns 12 dollars an hour

  10. As I told my friend when I went to Jacksonville last year: I am so glad I live in NYC and not in America. Jacksonville was my first trip to America really and I never intend to return.

    1. Judging America by going to ANY city in Florida does America a HUGE disservice. It’s like judging air quality across the planet by traveling to LA in the late 1970’s.

      1. I will give the benefit of the doubt to this as Florida is pretty much the moron capital of the world. That said, I have zero desire to see America. I am never going to travel anywhere outside of NY LA LV and MIA in this country with the only exception being family necessities

        1. Yes, I know. No new horizons and nothing new under the sun for you. I believe you’ve mentioned it before, heh.
          I’m hitting every state that I can drive to (so, all of them but Hawai’i) that I haven’t already been to, taking in the sights and then doing no small amount of world travel after I retire. Not to see the people, but to see the beauty and magnificent sights that the world has to offer, that I haven’t seen yet. Plus it would just be good fun. And yeah, ok, a little about people too, I just like meeting new people and being in new social situations.
          But correct, we can’t use Florida as a basis for anything except “How stupid can people actually be and still manage to not commit mass suicide”.

        2. See that aint right – seeing the whole Clambake makes you appreciate your own home all the more!

        3. I did my walk about many years ago. Granted I stuck to college towns, small cities etc. But yeah, I don’t need to go to the arctic circle to know it is cold there and i don’t need to go to somalia to know i won’t like it. I have zero desire to go to america. Not one bit of it interests me.

        4. I’ve done my horizons. I have been to nearly every continental state, i have lived (over a year) in two other countries and have traveled extensively in south america and europe. Like you, i am an old fart. My walk about was many years ago and I learned, like many people, that there is no place like home. That said, the things people say are nice about the rest of the country just seem really crappy to me. At my age I would rather take my time going to places I enjoy rather than trying out new places that already sound like shit to me.

        5. I can’t imagine looking at a beautiful mountain range and thinking “Well, that looks like shit”. Just not wired that way.

        6. Its good that you did get around. I’ve been doing it in slow motion for 20+ years so as not to burn out.

        7. I didn’t do very much rural stuff though i did drunkenly drive around Kentucky one night with a car load of lunatics.

        8. and i can’t imagine being so rattled by a little street noise. just different. I can see all those mountains. SOme of them are stock wall paper on my apple. That’s enough.

        9. Pictures are not representative of real life in any meaningful sense. This wasn’t about being rattled about noise either, and it’s not “a little” in the case of NYC, which sets the standard for loud, annoying street noise.
          Dunno. I like to experience things beyond The Machine (great story, 1914).

        11. Or camp near or on it, or spend time down by the stream that wanders near it, or ride my horse in the area. Just so much raw beauty.

        13. that reminds me of a buddy i had many years ago. Not a close friend and I am struggling to even remember his name now but its not important. He had an apartment in Astoria which is an outerborrough with a quick commute to Manhattan so it is popular amongst young professionals who can’t afford the city yet. He had a 3rd floor apartment on 31st street. This is important because if you knew astoria you would know that 31st runs an elevated subway. He could hit the N train with an apple core. So like every 15 minutes that apartment sounded like London during a raid lol. He said the noise he got used to but the worst part (this is before the ubiquity of texting) was that it was impossible to lie to his girlfriend about not being home. If she stayed on the phone with him for 15 minutes and didn’t hear the crushing sound of the train she knew he was lying.
          Meanwhile, noise depends where you live of course. You are use the the ‘burbs. The burbs anywhere will be more quiet than a city — especially a city such as new york — and like all suburb dwellers the city seems loud. But like anything you get used to it. It might have done you some good to live here for a year back in your youth. At our age dopamine is a rare commodity so trying something that new is never a good idea.

        14. J: “how often does the train go by?”
          E: “so often you don’t even notice it!”

        15. I lived in Frisco for about a year (well, was stationed there) and even then, when I was (thinking back….18?) it rattled my nerves the entire time. If it weren’t for the beaches which were fairly quiet I might have went mad. At the time I wasn’t from the ‘burbs, but more from the rurals.

          At our age dopamine is a rare commodity so trying something that new is never a good idea.

          lol, I’m not even sure what that means. I always try new things (well, if they seem like they would be fun or novel).

        16. That was the first image that popped into my head actually, reading his post.

        17. My time in frisco was short, drunken and filled with vagina — as well as many a year ago so i don’t remember much but i do not believe that living anywhere while enlisted gives you a real idea of what a place is like. If you are up for somehting new you should come spend a few months in the city.

        18. I was stationed basically in the city. I had ZERO use for it. None whatsoever. Went on *many* road trips every weekend to escape.
          Your extolling me to live in a city for a few months is the equivalent of me extolling you to come live out in Delaware Ohio for a few months. Do you think you’d ever be able to do that (I know the answer to this question, it’s rhetorical). The only difference here is that I won’t cross cities off of my list regarding visiting, since I see their value, I simply cannot live in one long term.

        19. i certainly couldn’t now. I am the one who said at this age i am not up for new living experiences (though I am actually seriously contemplating leaving new york and have set up a meeting with a head hunter for later this month). I need to be in a real city though.
          I get having no use for the city. Like I said you are a suburban dude with rural dreams. I feel suburban dudes fall in two categories. Suburban who want to go rural and suburban who would like to go city.

        20. Name that tune (and which rendition of it) without google (I will trust your word) and you get a cookie

        21. Technical progression: Rural -> Suburban -> Rural. That’s my life path. The last segment is “in the works”. Even the suburbs get on my nerves in some ways, heh.

        23. exactly the right image.
          This picture is the best I could find with my limited googling skills but if you look at where apartment windows are relative to a large train on all steel tracks and station (can’t use more noise reducing concrete on the elated lines) you will understand why it is hard to call your girlfriend and say you are home when you are actually out. To be fair, these apartments were a steal. 10 Years ago you could have got yourself a studio for only 1500/month https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4fb397e2893af2e8741c021c5281fd0c30e12081ca63b621b4e08b6b1f604da8.jpg

        26. I spent five years traveling all over the states, Canada & P.R.doing alternative energy work. I thoroughly enjoyed it; best job I ever had. I even got up in your neck of the woods a few times. In fact I was at a landfill Upstate and got to meet one of the Gambinos. I asked the site engineer why the guy was still on site as the superintendent 12 years after it had closed. He said “To make sure nobody does any digging.” Hmmm

        27. You should add New Orleans to your list. Some of the best food in the world and it awesome in a gritty kinda way.

        29. “They tease him a lot cuz they got him on the spot, Welcome back. Welcome back. Welcome back. Welcome back.”

        30. Be there — twice. Very good food, agreed. Some very cool stuff too. Glad I went but would not return.

        31. Guess I’m late to the party tonight. I’m weighing in again, though. I lived above the local commuter train in a third floor built above a rail crossing. The train came every 15, but east to west they staggered alternately, so every seven minutes: ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. I worked nights back then, too. Nostalgic now, but I’ve never slept so much like a soldier.

        33. there are only about 6 cities in the US and only two are actually major cities

        34. I think I follow you. I’m in the NW US here, and our cities are fairly finite once you know ’em. They’re also bat-shit plugged with hobos.

      2. Road trips are the only way to experience America. Hopping on a plane and going from city to city is not the same as cruising and stopping at some mom and pop store in a town with 100 people and chatting with the locals. Hipponax, seriously, you should get yourself a car and drive to some site with a friend of yours, sticking to the 2 lane highways, stopping at least every 100 miles.

        1. This, sir, is why I own and will always own a motorcycle. That bike has been across many, many states. I collect state patches and have them sewn on the bottom back of my leather riding vest, and they’re starting to take up some room.

        3. I would like to get a bike, for now I have 6 kids, and a VAN, not a minivan. Perhaps when they get old enough that we can leave for the weekends.

        4. its one of those vans that fit a little league team, right? 3 rows of seats

        5. When the kids are little you’re best served not riding. Once they get to the age of self sufficiency, it becomes much easier to justify.

        6. Not that big, used to be a 7 passenger, I removed 2 buckets put in a bench. If we have any more (not likely) we will have to go that route.

        10. 7. Wife rides bitch. A women should never ride a motorcycle solo unless she plans on soon adopting the lesbian lifestyle.

        11. speaking of maff- i think common core was inspired by bud and lou:

        13. in my early twenties, I spent four months seeing America this way … spent a total of about three thousand dollars. Hit 39 states and drove about 15,000 miles. Incredible.
          Downside: Now that I’ve seen most things in the U.S. (except North Dakota), national travel no longer has any interest for me. I go international now.

        15. By skipping North Dakota, you’re missing out on some really sharp tractors, hoss.

        16. takes me back to Sundays before(after?) church- cant remember exacty when it was on tv, but they showed one of their movies every Sunday on wpix11

        17. ah pixx…….
          how did you put it? screaming into the phone to win a stupid t shirt?

        18. yeah, i loved how hoarse the kid would get, all for a shitty tote bag(never got thru though, bummed me out)

        27. I’m not one to support women doing masculine, aggressive activities except by force and necessity of reality.

        28. Jim I gave up motorcycling for many years while the boys were little. I didn’t want them growing up without a dad. I’d just be sure the children are self sufficient before I would put mama on the back and head off cross country. It would be a bad deal if they lost mama and daddy both at the same time. And that’s coming from one of the most hardcore riders you’ll ever know.

        29. Yeah, I will probably wait until they are out of the house. Until then, there is always thumb twiddling.

        30. Well rather than twiddle my thumbs I bought a Jet-ski. If motorcycles are like Heroin (and they are for me), the Jet-ski was my Methadone. I’m referring to the style of ski you stand up on, not a sit down PWC. A”real” Jet-ski requires a good bit of skill as well as balance and athletic ability. In fact I miss it quqite a bit. But every time I mention buying another one my wife says I will be going by myself. She’s perfectly happy in our swimming pool and she’s not getting in that nasty lake, lol. So what’s a poor boy to do but stay home pour a couple glasses of wine, light the Tiki torches and go skinny dipping with her. It’s a tough job but I shall endeavor to persevere. 😉

        4. In detention yet again? You’ll end up as a ditch digger if this continues.

    2. New York is one vast open air prison where everyone is both prisoner and prison guard. My mother and sister rave about New York but I don’t think I’d like the frantic and frenetic pace of life there. Cities are giant stress machines. I live near a city here in GB with about 1 million inhabitants and I always feel immediately drained whenever I go there.

      1. Vast Open Air Prison.
        I’m stealing that and will use it many times in the future.

        1. Here I GB we have open prisons where low risk white collar offenders and prisoners in the last year of a long sentence may be sent. They have a lot more freedom of movement around the prison and some can even take a few hours per week job outside the prison. New York is a prison make no mistake about that. New Yorkers have been so brainwashed that they have little desire to escape their prison so now walls are needed.

        4. I haven’t been to London in about 12 years so I can’t really say anything about apart from saying that I didn’t enjoy my last visit.

      2. You’re missing the Key Ingredient:
        NYC is great if and only if you:
        -Are single
        -Have a decent income/bank account.
        Otherwise, yeah, a treadmill.

        1. I don’t think I could stomach it even then. Gives me the willies, all the noise, concrete, crowded everything all the time. Ugh.

        4. youve been gone for a while, no? dont think you comprehend how overcrowded the subway has gotten. ridership is up from 4mil in the late 90s to almost 6mil today…

        5. Well if they’re going to keep building residential towers on an island, that’s what you get.

        6. new building ontop of crumbling, century-old infrastructure. Whoever does the marketing for nyc is a genius. you would not believe how many giant bldgs there are in LIC,Greenpoint, n Billyburg now…

        7. this i will admit. I don’t know how anyone stays here married (NYC = Manhattan I can see doing the outer boroughs). I will say, however, that unlike LA (in my experience which admittedly is limited) that NY, while it is much better if you have bank, is far easier to enjoy oneself if you are just getting by.

        8. I meet more women on public transportation in a month than most men meet all year.

        10. LIC was just waiting to happen. As soon as the zoning changed from industrial to residential it went wild. The infrastructure there blows…especially with regard to the 7 being the only way in and out….but mark my words, 5 years from now and LIC will be demanding higher rents than much of manhattan and will have a much heartier infrastructure.

        13. I take the 6 twice a day around rush hour and day game my way up and down town constantly.

        14. Though I do remember the 7 from end to end in 1994 was a shit show……
          unless you spoke Chinese of course…..

        15. The 7 is problematic. It is old, constantly breaking and the schedule is erratic. As far as I can tell it is the worst subway line in NYC but I don’t frequent the outer boroughs so I can only say from my experience. Further, it has the dubious distinction of having terminating points in two of the absolute worst spots in new york FRUSHING QREENS on one side and the hudson years on the other. In between those it hits such lovely areas as Hunters Point, COurt Square, Roosevelt Ave and Jackson Heights to pick up more asians, criminal recidivists, drug addicts and Hispanic gang members. For those lucky enough to be paying 2500-5000/month to live in LIC and have a view of manhattan they always have a fun ride, when it shows up, on their one or two stops to work

        16. Though I gotta admit, when it emerges from the tunnel at night the scenery is spectacular from the ol’ GhettoCoaster.

        17. It is. I don’t take it often. Once a year I will check out a mets game and other than that i have no reason to be on that train. I used it a few times when I had some work to do in LIC which, thankfully, has concluded.

      3. It’s a prison, but it’s a magical prison. Rough dirty crude magic. I read Four Gates to the City over and over the five years I lived there, but I could never find my way in. Getting in is as difficult as getting out. “wise men fish here”

      4. sure, i get it. Not for everyone. I thrive on that kind of stress probably because I was born into here. I live on a 22.5 square mile island with 6 million people and 2 million tourists and I love it. But more than that there is absolutely nothing I want from any other part of the country. I totally get other people feeling uncomfortable by the energy here…especially at first…though

        2. it shrinks from pollution, from the stress of noise and too many people crowded at one spot.
          Especially living in apartment buildings with many neighbors is not so good.

        3. yes, this is why the brain trust of the country is in jackson mississippi and not in any of the major cities which actually influence the country and the world. smh.

        4. The brain trust in the country is mostly in Silicon Valley these days, as well as being decentralized and dispersed across the nation as various major corporations flee the high tax/high reg cities. Battelle, one of the smartest places (as in, high concentration of really, really smart people) on planet earth, lives in Madison County, Ohio.

        6. Just telling you the truth. Lots of major companies have fled and will continue to flee big cities. It’s no big secret. Also, Battelle was/is on the “strike here first” list for Russia (or was during the USSR times) because it is a concentration of so much high tech research. Little known by most people, but there you have it.

        9. Means nothing. Refusing to see reality is not a problem on my end, I’m just the messenger. You can’t tax and reg the shit out of major companies and have them stick around. And if you find an organization outside of NASA with a higher concentration of really, really smart people I’d be surprised. NASA also not being located in NYC, btw.
          But hey, you still have the theatre, models and…well…fashion stuff. So that’s good.

        11. Nah, it’s long standing knowledge out here. Madison county was a ground zero, we’ve known that since at least the early 1980’s.

        12. A vast percentage of NASA scientists (during their glory days, granted) were NYC natives.

        14. By NYC you mean “Germany”?
          They aren’t there now is my point. So it’s not a HQ of Brain Trust. Other places are and will continue to be.

        15. Yes. That’s exactly what I mean.
          Just saying, cities churned out most of the leading scientists here.

        16. For Battelle? All over the nation, and many times from locals.
          And believe it or not, Ohio, specifically Columbus, is one of the most highly educated cities in these united States.
          For NASA? Show me the demographic breakdown on where people are from who work there to back your claim.

        18. You’re not hearing me. I’m talking about NYC mostly.
          And Columbus is a “city” in a way that big cities on the east coast are not, it’s sprawled and mostly made of suburbs from whence all the people then migrate into the center to go to work, then scramble back out of after work. So in this case, it’s really the suburbs.

        20. no, just refusing to argue with someone who is both wrong and so tied up into a suburban lifestyle he refuses to understand the realities of the urban centers. As we have said before, some things we just have to move past.

        23. Tough man. Seriously, I think there was an article on here about midwest/western cities. They are nothing like big cities on the east and west coasts. The central core is usually all minorities and hipsters (this describes Columbus to a T, although you have to add in OSU which is filled with kids from the Burbs too) and the actual people who work in the city ALL come from the suburbs. This is true in many midwestern and western cities. Cheyenne has maybe like 10 permanent residents while the rest of the population lives in their version of the burbs.

        24. We’ll agree to agree that you’re wrong. No issue. Heh.

        25. doesn’t matter. big cities don’t make you retared but they increase your stress and cortisol level, especially when you don’t live in a nice town house but in a project. Because it constantly undermines your territorial boundries.

        28. Yes, a big city is more stressful and people either crack or learn how to deal with stress better. This is why when I shop my 20 year long resume from NYC out every single minor city in the country wants to suck my dick. The old trusim hold…if you can make it here you can make it anywhere. Like I said, the talk about cities being stressful comes from people who simply can’t handle the stress and are either incapable or afraid to compete in the big leauges. This is the pros. Not everyone makes it but those who do are the best of the best.

        31. Raspberry tart rhymes with fart, and the cockneys are great at pointing it out, then taking that and translating it into the actual noise. It was uncomfortable at one time to say fart in public so they used “raspberry tart” and then eventually just made the noise, I believe.

        32. Go camping, primitive camping. Tell me about your stress after a week. “I’d hang myself from a tree” I believe you said.
          Your conclusion, thus, is invalid, unless you’re indicating that you are incapable, incompetent or afraid to deal with nature like us “pros” out here.
          Stressors are different for different people, it has nothing to do about incapability or “afraid”.

        33. “Go camping, primitive camping. Tell me about your stress after a week. “I’d hang myself from a tree” I believe you said.”
          Stressors may be different for lots of people sure. People either make it here or not and the ones that do are simply more suited toward big business and finance than anyone else. Afraid and incapable are the two things with the possible exception of people who just really need to opt into a more bucolic life. A lawyer in ohip is a lawyer in ohio because he simply cannot be a lawyer in new york or is afraid to try and I will never believe a word to the contrary. Tell me about a farmer, fine. Some people just enjoy that line of work better.

        35. no, it comes from scientists and PhDs who have found out that living in a big city has such effects. But from a logical point I’d tend to agree with it.

        36. It’s not binary. He may be a lawyer in Ohio who surpasses lawyers in NYC but simply has no interest in NYC. It’s not “only the best live here” as you think it is. Not everybody wants to be in or near a megatropolis.

        37. maybe he wants to be a lawyer in ohio because he wants to have his own horses in a stable in his own farm house and go hunting on weekends. Maybe he’s a country guy. Maybe he doesn’t nee the money he could make in New York for Ohio is not as expensive as New York.

        40. Farmers don’t wear overalls and carry pitch forks anymore. Even a small commercial farm is a multi million dollar operation nowadays. That big barn full of tractors, combines, cotton pickers etc is worth more than a truckload of fancy European sports cars that those sissy city boys drive. New York City may be special but it can’t survive without all us out here but we could get along ok if it fell in the ocean today.
          Big cities do have their uses though, if they didn’t exist there would be nowhere to put gay clubs.

        41. There’s even a lot of them living amongst those ignernt southerners in The Research Triangle in NC not to mention Huntsville Alabama, Cape Kennedy and Houston.

        42. Ironically I hail from the country and when I have worked in NYC, the customers tried to hire me. I didn’t have a problem working there, but I do prefer rural life. The problem for me was they typically only offer in the 100K range and as far as I am concerned that’s about poverty level in NYC. I do that well in the Midwest at a fraction of the cost of living. They want the technical expertise, but don’t want to pay enough to make it worth my while to move there. I suppose it would be different if I were in law or finance. The funny part is these same engineering firms didn’t mind paying $120 an hour plus expenses to fly me in to fix their shit. SMH

        43. Exactly. I could do it, but prefer some acreage, my own small stock, little traffic and a shooting range in my backyard. I get the feeling that popping off a few rounds on Sunday afternoon in your backyard in the Big Apple would get you a visit from NYPD SWAT, lol!

        45. I would love to take him into the woods with nothing but a backpack, sleeping bag, and a pocket knife. I would get such a giggle out of that.

      6. Cities are female. Flashy and trashy – just like women. The urban male has lost the most territory in the war of the sexes. Women whose closest neighbor is two miles away still feel better with a man around. Urban/suburban man has lost touch with masculine soul. He has forgotten how to initiate his own sons, who are raised primarily by women.

        1. That’s rubbish. The urban child spends a far greater percentage of his life in social situations, in public with nowhere to hide, than a rural or suburban one. This intense regimen of competing, communicating, analyzing, challenging, winning and losing builds a certain strength.

        2. This is the talk i always here from people who are either incapable or afraid to compete in the majors.

        4. Not sure that’s accurate. Careful what you call an urban man – that faeg with the square glasses in Williamsburg was likely raised in an upper class suburb.

        5. Voting patterns in general elections tells you all you need to know about the urban people. I am not saying there are not exceptions.

        6. No I see your point. I am only recognizing the advantages of the urban crucible on a child’s development.

        7. uppercut coffee: it will knock you out…ironically of course.

        8. What you’re forgetting is that the urban areas are full of racial minorities, who vote very heavily Democratic… for the “gibs” the dems offer and because they are easily brainwashed by the media and their community activists. I don’t think white males vote heavily Dem even in urban areas, with a few exceptions like Boston, Seattle, and Minneapolis.

        9. It’s not just that. Homosexuality is more wide spread in urban areas. Check Mouse Utopia Experiment .

        10. That is a good point. The homos are very much urban creatures.
          And I do mean creatures.

        11. As a youth, holidays and summer vacations were spent on a ranch, but otherwise in the city. On the ranch, we had guns, 4x4s, tractors, and all kinds of things to get killed or hurt doing in the outdoors. In the city, getting killed or just hurt came down to such things as getting robbed, beaten, or by crossing the street, so interesting enough we tended to stay indoors.

      1. He is a poet from long ago and i thank you to not use that name any longer.

        3. Those Romanian sisters want to kill you don’t they? They’re stalking the forums, hunting you.

  12. Hm. Kyle, correct me if I’m wrong, but I could deduce from what you said that your reader who you were hanging out with was Brazilian, too?
    Hell, man. I really can’t figure out why he was shocked at all by the vapid conversations of American women – ours really aren’t that much better. However, that article on gaming in Brazil (I followed your link) is spot on, 100%; it just failed to mention some more downsides.
    I suppose that, on a scale of 1 to 10 (10 being American-women level of nonsensical bullshit), Brazilian women rank at about 7. I’m drawing that from personal experience, of course, but… hey, I am Brazilian.
    There are a few differences, though:
    – They don’t go as far as using the entirety of those ridiculous adjectives you mentioned on the first point.
    – On the second point, the main topic tends to be, specifically, Big Brother Brasil. When they’re not talking about reality shows (to be fair, it’s definitely not all the time), it’s about The Voice, MasterChef, the latest soap opera or celebrity gossip.
    – Third point? Eh. It’s the same. Better hope you don’t ever come across a Brazilian feminist, though.
    – Fourth? Also exactly the same.
    One caveat, though: my experiences with American women have been limited to those tourists who come to Rio; I don’t know if they’re any different than what you’d find State-side. Are they?
    Also, DJs. Brazilian women love to blabber on about whatever shitty DJ is currently ‘en vogue’ (right now it’s some dude named Alok or something). I have a good anecdote I could share about this particular point, even.
    Rarely did I meet a woman who had truly deep, meaningful interests. It has happened before, though; one even surprised me completely, which is the exact reason (well, there are many others, such as her being an 8 in looks) why she’s my girl, now.
    They’re still worth pursuing, though. Definitely. They’re not as bad as American women, and you can still find a gem here and there, but nobody should come here thinking it’s a bed of roses or something.

    1. If your experience with American women is limited to some tourists, I don’t think you can fairly say “as bad as American women”. This entire take that many have of “Americans are stoopidz, Americans are fat-zoors, Americanz ain’t culturedzzz” is mostly bogus and the few parts that are true (fat) come from very specific areas you can pinpoint on the map.

      1. That’s why I’m mostly commenting on the points Kyle raised, and comparing Brazilian women to that. I’m assuming that’s as fair a base of comparison as any, given the context.

    2. My times in brazil reminded me that, like america, brazil is a large place with many types of people. The Favela girls are, well, the favela girls….know world wide from drunken Carnival videos, porno and screaming at soccer matches. But if you get to the beautiful (and really must see) florinopolis or the waterfalls of pirinopolis (sorry if my spelling is off) or even girls from the man made capital they are entirely different (not different different because AWALT but as different as a california girl to a miami girl to a new york girl to a green bay girl)

      1. That’s pretty much a good description, yeah.
        Your comment does bring to mind a caveat I forgot: when it comes to the south of Brazil (Florianópolis is in Santa Catarina, way down south), things do change quite a bit.
        For starters, the concentration of white people there is far greater, mostly due to colder climate, a lower concentration of slaves during the colonial times and an overwhelmingly European ancestry (Germans and Italians mostly). The culture there is also quite different from the rest of the country; maybe it’s due to the wealth and ancestry, I can’t really say. People there tend to be slightly colder, but, at the same time, better educated; cities tend to be cleaner and more organized, etc. There are even large and growing separatist sentiments in the south; historically speaking, the state of Rio Grande do Sul even declared itself independent in 1835, which sparked a war, though this was provoked, mostly, by anger at the ridiculous taxes imposed on that state back then, mixed with a bit of separatism (why is it always a North/South thing?).
        These differences also extend to the women there. As you said, not exactly AWALT (no unicorns here), but they’re definitely on another level. Among Brazilians, scoring a girl from the south usually brings comments like: “Damn, man! Nice going!”. The mention of “southern girls” usually makes most dudes grin broadly. Some friends of mine used to joke that even when they got rejected by southern girls they liked it, because they’re simply nice and warm and not bitchy about it (that was years ago, these days they don’t get rejected nearly as much, practice made perfect in their case).
        Can’t comment much on the girls from Goiás (Pirenópolis) or the capital, though. Oh, and that behavior of “favela girls” (we don’t really have that distinction here, but I get your point, no worries) isn’t limited to them alone.
        Also, your spelling was -almost- perfect. Just missed a single letter in each. Florianópolis and Pirenópolis. No need to apologize, buddy.

        1. i love that you call the south a colder climate. ahhh to be back. It is nice here now but the snows be commin’ soon. I will be thinking about Florianopolis all day now. For my money it is one of the most beautiful places in the world. My time in Goias was just amazing. The girls were fun and beautiful and the food was great. I knew someone who owned a small hotel and restaurant and went swimming in some beautiful waterfalls every single day. You are right about white…and talking really milky white here. I am under the impression that people intentionally marry lighter and lighter skin because there is a lot of racism and they are trying to europeanize as much as possible. My light hair and blue eyes made me a commodity down south. I didn’t like Rio. The whole copacabana thing was very much like Miami to me and just didn’t hit me.
          scoring a girl from the south usually brings comments like: “Damn, man! Nice going!”
          Yes…I noticed this 🙂

        2. Hah! Well, I’m trying to be objective, here. It -is- quite colder than the rest of Brazil. Personally, I love it.
          I get you, though. Florianópolis really is something, man. Hell. Brazil itself is, when it comes to beauty. As much as I rail against my country, nobody can deny that part of it. The south has a special place in my heart, though.
          I’ll be visiting Goiás soon enough, though. Specifically, a national park called Chapada dos Veadeiros. Talk about waterfalls, indeed.
          Also, another fun fact about the south: besides the higher concentration of whites, there’s also a town there, Cândido Godói, that has a bizarrely huge concentration of twins. Look it up. Some conspiracy nuts link that to crazy experiments that maybe were done by Josef Mengele, because he apparently passed by the region back in the 60s. That theory has been debunked.
          I can’t quite comment on the whole thing about people intentionally marrying those with lighter skin, though. Racism can be a bit muddy here, at times. If ignore the ridiculous raving about ‘raaaaycism’ from the left, you can see that Brazil is a weird case, it’s both racist and not, at the same time. Frankly, I never delved into this particular topic much, nor cared about it, so I can’t quite say a whole lot.
          “Yes…I noticed this :)”
          Hah. Nice going, man.

        3. I will get you the name of the hotel and restaurant in Goias that my friend and his wife own. If nothing else stop by for dinner. I had read about the twins and Mengele but never knew it to be true. I get what you mean by racism. A lot of my feelings on it are personal observation on the dating culture how showing up lilly white with blue eyes made me a prime target even over americans who were also there with darker features much less locals who were darker…but that could just be chalked up to me being awesome town. While in Pirianopolis make 100% sure to go swimming in waterfalls. It is one of those experiences that is just really outrageously fun. I always feel about brazil that I could move there if i was wealthy enough to live a life of the top 10% without having to work, but trying to make a living there is way too hard for me.

        4. have you ever been to the salt beaches in argentina? that is the freakiest thing i have ever seen

        5. Salt beaches in Argentina? Nope. Never heard of them, even. I’ll take a look.
          I will be heading to Ushuaia soon enough, though. That’s in Argentina, too.
          Swimming in waterfalls is a common thing here. Plenty of those in Rio, you just have to do a bit of hiking. The ones in Goiás must be ridiculous, though, yeah.
          I wouldn’t recommend moving here, however. Just keep it as a tourism and fun destination, man. Brazil’s magic will fade away quite quickly if you stop to see the day to day life here. Sure, Rio’s beautiful and all, but… for example, just last week I had to worry about two big shootouts that happened in the city, one of them was somewhat near the path of my work commute.

        7. Holy hell, those are nice. Huge salt plains, basically.
          They’re pretty much like the Salar de Uyuni, in Bolivia. Dying to visit those.

      2. Is “opolis” in Brazilian Portuguese like “ville” in American?

        2. or for that matter Indianapolis, Minneapolis or Annapolis

        5. i accept dandy, but i am generally not pedantic unless it is asked over.

  13. I have lived on every continent except Africa (and Antarctica) and I have never seen a society in which the women were as aspiritual and materially obsessed as American women. 2.2 million years of human evolution has shown us that women need some manner of spiritual surrender to soften the biological edges in their lives, but we in America blithely refuse to acknowledge this.

    2. Really? I got the impression in China that the women were spiritually dead monsters

      1. which ones are the women — they ALL make pee pee in your coke

      2. Metaphysically they are materialists, but they do value family, hard work, and China as well.

      3. This is a big generalization. I suppose your encounters were with urban Chinese women but bear in mind that fifty percent is still rural population as compared to the 15% rural population in the USA.
        Having said that, the Chinese population is bound to become more and more urban and the women will more and more start resemble the American women perhaps with a slight cultural twist. Feminism is yet to get established there but they are working on it.

    3. As Schopenhauer points, out, women in their default state have the attention span of dogs, paying heed only to what they can experience immediately with their senses. At least our spiritual traditions try to discipline women away from that state by presenting them with thoughts about things beyond the sensual, like the conditions of their souls and what kinds of lives they want to look back on.

  14. “The nobler and more perfect a thing is, the later and slower is it in reaching maturity. Man reaches the maturity of his reasoning and mental faculties scarcely before he is eight-and-twenty; woman when she is eighteen; but hers is reason of very narrow limitations. This is why women remain children all their lives, for they always see only what is near at hand, cling to the present, take the appearance of a thing for reality, and prefer trifling matters to the most important. It is by virtue of man’s reasoning powers that he does not live in the present only, like the brute, but observes and ponders over the past and future; and from this spring discretion, care, and that anxiety which we so frequently notice in people. The advantages, as well as the disadvantages, that this entails, make woman, in consequence of her weaker reasoning powers, less of a partaker in them. Moreover, she is intellectually short-sighted, for although her intuitive understanding quickly perceives what is near to her, on the other hand her circle of vision is limited and does not embrace anything that is remote; hence everything that is absent or past, or in the future, affects women in a less degree than men. This is why they have greater inclination for extravagance, which sometimes borders on madness. Women in their hearts think that men are intended to earn money so that they may spend it, if possible during their husband’s lifetime, but at any rate after his death.”
    Arthur Schopenhauer, “On Women.”

    1. To complement your post: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLDQVLuBbiw .
      Man was red pilled as can be (though I do disregard his unnecessary pessimism). It’s ridiculous. I showed some of his words on women to a blue pill guy I know. Until that day, I had never thought I’d see a man flip the F off like a woman would.

  15. “Fry your Brain” is right. I reached a point a few years ago with my business where I could no longer deal with this younger generation of females, so I hired a female salesperson to deal with them specifically – things have worked out great ever since.
    At this point in my life, I have no tolerance for re-hashing of conversations, indecisiveness or complaining, all while watching them stare selfishly into their smartphones.

  16. When you’re held responsible for literally nothing in society and in the palm of your hand is every attention seekers greatest invention, of course you’ll have nothing great to say.

  17. Carl Jung said that American women are not happy with their husbands because they are not afraid of them.

    2. Women who file domestic violence claims against their husbands don’t fear them enough if at all. Women who truly fear their husbands respect them and would never file any sort of extraneous claim against him.
      It’s the same with rape accusations where rape claims are filed by women who were never raped. Women who were actually raped don’t file claims because they were overpowered. The ‘regret’ rape is the woman’s subconscious awareness that when she had the option to choose, she regrets her errant choice of coiting upon a weaker supplicating man who allowed HER to approve the booty call option. She really didn’t want the option to choose. She wanted to be dominated fully. Women with total free options will accuse or divorce rape every one of their males in the end because the women were never fully dominated and disciplined by their men and because the female isn’t wired to function independently without their emotions creating terminal and destructive meltdown events when the women are given free reign to roam. Women will never permanantly settle or domesticate when given options.
      After years of control a loose rogue woman may internalize patterns of happines and realize her lost feminine nature, but it’s best to preserve and nurture her feminine nature beginning at youth so she plugs right in to the spouse/mother life without spasmodic meltdowns and convulsing to suddenly abandon the nest like she was posessed. A free reign woman has no mind, at least not consistently. The bat shit meltdowns during her fertile years are horrendous. After she’s post wall barren, of course she’s dust in the wind with no lineage.

  18. “Tell me how the world works, you wondrous, empowered, Western woman – I could sit at your feet for hours, waiting with bated breath on your next non sequitur.” – Gandhi

    1. Mahatma Gandhi was a wife beater and in the end he left her for a Jewish man. How about that?

      1. Prosecutor: Mr. Gandhi, how often do you beat your wife?
        Gandhi: About as often as you beat your tiny dick, Shlomo.

        1. Abraham Lincoln: “Damn, Gandhi was a bad moth–” Eleanor Roosevelt: “Shut yo mouf!”
          Abraham Lincoln: “But I’m just talkin’ about Gandhi.”

        2. Gandhi means “big shaft” in Hindi…
          Shlomo was a homo
          Dancing in the street
          He clutched a pink menorah
          While he beat his tiny meat

        5. The women mostly called him “MUGHFYFGGR!!!” because his cock was in their mouths.

        6. “I’ve fucked just about everything that walks or crawls at one time or another…and I’m hear to fuck you, Eleanor.” – from the film, “Unforgandhied”

        7. At last I have an answer for how Ghandi developed his old saggy man-tits. Must have stopped juicing.

        11. “I just say I’m vegan to bone hot vegan bitches, steak’s the real shit.” – Ghandi.

      2. “I don’t just beat my wife. I beat everyone’s wife….with my dick”
        –Gandhi

    2. With all the lesbos these days, wouldn’t that be “baited” breath? As in “I smell something fishy.”

  19. #3 yes. Women are largely political morons. A noise-cancelling headset is a man’s best friend. Bought one a few months ago, best investment ever !

    1. Had a girl at work tell me she knows for a 100% fact that her political views are correct and mine aren’t. She’s a SJW liberal so I laughed in her face and walked away at that absurd comment she made lol.
      Its sad that so many people think everything they believe in correct. When in reality, many of the beliefs we hold are flat out wrong. Socrates said it best when he said, “I know that I know nothing.”

        1. Its quite possible. But I don’t carry a smug arrogance and act like I know for a fact that I’m correct and everyone else is wrong like this twat did.

  20. “A decent pair of noise-cancelling headphones is becoming an increasingly good investment when out in public”
    For me a good pair of ear plugs should work just fine whrn out on public, but I know what you mean. And it’s not as if I’m become a smart phone zombi, but rather, I’d I like having the means at times to shut out Stupid.

    1. Because “foodie” sounds more like something you would coat in chocolate, sprinkle with icing and then shove in your morbidly obese face.
      “Gourmand” sounds like an ugly vegetable.

      1. Thinly sliced, locally sourced, farm-to-table gourmand, lightly sprinkled in artisan olive oil, and sauteed with a side of fava beans and a nice chianti is my favorite.
        I always thought “foodie” sounds like what Brits call soccer.

      2. “Foodie” sounds like something homosexuals would do with the lights off.

    1. Because they are not a monolithic entity and there are still plenty of decent ones out here, assuming you don’t only hunt in stupid “clubs”.

      2. Problem is when the majority of American women are entitled it creates a problem. So you wind up thinking they are all bad. I have been spending my time in Eastern Europe so it would be hard to go back and have to start separating the weed from the chaff.

  23. Where I’m from, we don’t refer to food as farm to table, organic or artisanal. Just as food. Seriously, these people have nothing better to do than try to scramble such an awesome and practical language like English.

    1. I always wondered where the food that didn’t go from farm to table came from, the grocery store I guess.

      1. Another thought I had regarding these terms. If you have to announce your food is organic, or your omelette was made with freshly cracked eggs, or your bread is artisanal, you might have image and confidence issues. A food establishment that does prepare their food fresh won’t have to announce it. You will know easily when said food is fresh.

  24. While we are on the subject of food, I have often wondered who the faggot was that coined the term “veggies” instead of just saying vegetables. Every time I read the term “veggies”, In my mind it’s said with a homosexual lisp.

    1. That happened a LONG time ago. Like way before I arrived to grace the earth with my radiant and awesome pressence. “Eat your veggies” is a staple of mother-talk given to young children for as long as I’ve been aware.

      1. I don’t remember hearing that term until after the internet. It’s just so…..gay sounding.
        I remember my mother attempting to guilt trip me into eating vegetables because African kids were starving though.

        1. Oh man, I heard it quite a bit when I was a kid which was, I think, just prior to the years leading up to the Revolutionary War.

        2. For some reason I just can’t picture my father saying ” eat your veggies, boy!”.

        3. I remember hearing it back when dinosaurs still roamed the earth– but it was what you ate after having failed to make a kill, and the phrase was said with a tone of mocking derision.

        4. Never heard it out of a man. But grown women? Yeah.

      2. Another bit of mommy talk that has infected the entire earth: “Not OK”.
        Just say “wrong”, you spineless goons!

      1. When I read the word “veggies ” I do. Every thing else sounds like John Wayne.

  25. PC culture is like napalm that burns out every, even slightly controversial conversation topics, leaving only safe subjects like food, travel, tv shows and weather.
    Also, since the only thing that most women read these days are restaurant menus, what are you going to talk with them about?

    1. You can talk about how awesome their kale stuffed frittata is, and upload it to Instagram. And that’s another thing that should be mentioned. What’s up with the excess of food pics? I won’t be impressed, unless the pic is of, say, fried bull testicles, or beluga caviar, or monkey brains fresh out of the skull.

      1. I dont even have an instagram account- too much garbage in there. Food pics being the lamest, by the exception of them being cooked by those who post the pics.

  26. This article x1000. I just fucked a girl who just graduated high school, and HOOOOLY SHIIIIT……the level of retardation of her verbal IQ was so cringey and irritating. The drama, dwelling on the most INSIGNIFICANT things, what that boy said a few weeks ago, her friend Sofia’s feelings about this and that, why she likes chocolate more than vanilla ice cream….UGH.
    I got so annoyed that I cut her off mid sentence and said “Leave.”
    “What do you mean leave?”
    “Go home….or to Sofia’s house…the lawn…just away from here.”
    She yabbered and stammered for another minute, and I just decided to grab her and fuck her raw one more time if it got her to shut up. Even in between moaning and panting she tried to finish her thoughts. I threw her against the wall and dicked her until I came. I shoved a plan B pill down her throat, threw her clothes at her, and tossed her out the door while her cunt was still dripping with my seed. I was so annoyed.
    This article couldn’t be more true Kyle. Great read

      1. you got me. She was 81 not 18. With every thrust I was afraid of breaking her hips, and in between sessions I had to change her oxygen tank….feels bad man

  27. Number one drives me nuts. The more they blab about food, wine and all, the less they know shit.
    And God forbid that they actually *cook* this shit, no, it’s always take out that “sounds amaaaaazing!”.

  28. On no.4, I can’t count with my fingers how many times girls have been advised not to date bad boys, and they don’t care. Until they end up getting killed and cut into little pieces by their drug lords boyfriends. And they thought getting their heart getting cut to pieces was bad.

  29. The most common conversation I notice among women is about social media. “did you see the photo I posted blah blah”, “did you see the video I posted blah blah blah”, “I saw the pics you posted blah blah blah”, “did you read about the lady who’s kid blah blah fucking blah”.
    It seems to me they spend an overwhelming majority of their time on social media & then talking about social media when they aren’t actually on it. Other than that I don’t hear many other topics spewing from their empty heads.

  30. If a girl ever.. EVER.. uses the word “delish” on a date, the only proper retort should be “check please”.

  31. In conversation more often than not women are not looking for solutions or new information: it is for sympathy and confirmation. In short: echo chamber.

  33. You forgot the gym (because simply being “not fat” since birth in their minds is the same as saying “I live in the gym” for social media points) and travel (“Studied abroad”, because a rudimentary language like Spanish for a native English speaker requires arduous “studying” in a forgeign country for months, oh yeah!).

    1. The last election, my wife and I were in line for Saturday morning voting behind three single, young women in gym wear. They were going on about the gym, guys and work. Two of which looked like they never stepped foot in a gym, and it was a horrible twenty minutes to have to listen to them and at seeing way too much. Not to mention, with having to think about who they were guaranteed to vote for.

      1. Yeah women’s “killer gym seshes” are akin to bad comedy. They wear the spandex and active wear 24 hours if they simply aren’t fat to begin with because it earns them plenty of social media points with all of the Likes and Comments sackless faggots dole out to them. And that alone is worth the disingenuous gym posturing for them, it’s like crack cocaine.

  34. Chick’s are meant to be seen and only speak when spoken to. They need to learn no man gives a good goddam what they have to say and act in line with that.
    She wants to find a man who does listen? Fine. She needs to go elsewhere and be another man’s headache.
    Ain’t that complicated. Every woman’s got one.

    1. wow, listen to you. i don’t disagree that young women in the USA in this present day mostly are horrible & if that picture up there with the backs of the 3 women walking represent other states besides just the tristate area I live in where 75% of them seem to look like that, then I guess that explains the FDA having approved over 25 different new diabetes meds over the past 7 years.
      however, that being said, as long as you HAVE to live here in the USA, if you indeed do, then you really need to change that terrible attitude of yours. it just isn’t going to work that way for you, unless you want to be alone….or go the other route, which then you run the risk of rotting in hell for the sinner you would have become. i personally know chicks weren’t like this when i was their age & it sucks you were born too late but you cannot condemn the entirety because it simply is not fair to the ones out there who are not guilty of all of those attributes.
      try joining a church or take a class at your local community college or something, like a cooking class. i can think of at least 7 awesome girls off the top of my head that go to my church and in the age range of 18-25 & they want boyfriends but of course because they are awesome, they have standards & certainly won’t be treated like cavewomen. what in the hell has happened to this country? i am really terrified from the garbage i have read on this website & now i can see why so many young women are doing drugs & killing themselves. it is BAD out there!

      1. They should want husbands not boyfriends if they had any real standards beyond feelings. Also, calling the contents of a site garbage when you can’t use proper grammar is poor form.

        1. first of all, i did not call this site garbage – you have poor reading comprehension skills in addition to being an instigative & bullying douchebag. can’t use proper grammar? funny. my grammar is perfect & i know this. you are quite obviously an asshole & your unwarranted & incorrect assessment really punctuate this fact. i can picture exactly what kind of little man you are, yuk. real men don’t pick baseless fights online with women, what the hell is wrong with you? keyboard warrior. i am right here & will always be. you proved that beyond a shadow of a doubt & i see why so many women are single. to boot, you are more than likely ugly, too, which stands to reason, as you are an opportunistic bully of the cyber kind. how big of a jerk does one have to be to criticize someone after improperly transalating a comment that wasn’t even intended for them? rot in hell & fuck off, boy.

        3. “the garbage i have read on this website”
          hand drill was correct princess
          “i can see why so many young women are doing drugs & killing themselves.”
          evil men forcing all those pretty snowflakes to do drugs right? what a load of rubbish.

        4. that doesn’t even make sense. hand drill is a great name for you, as you clearly are a tool. you are a judgemental & instigative caveman who definitely encompasses the qualities of the men profiled on ID – quite alarming. i hope no female is ever stupid or drunk enough to allow you to dump your nasty seed in her because you are vile.

        5. Um, you can fuck off, as well. another douchebag with poor reading comprehension. how swell of you to put my words in quotes, which would have made someone with even some grammar sense aware of the fact that i did NOT call any website garbage. so that’s 2 dipshits for the price of one, how lucky for mehhhhh, not. I said the garbage i have read ON this website. so again tell me how I called the website garbage…..right. I didn’t. Dope.

        6. and another perfect example of terrible reading comprehension. i didn’t say anything about ANYONE making someone do anything. putting words in others mouths is just ignorance in it’s purest form, dumb dumb. again for convenience you included MY words in quotations, so the fuck what? Yes, I CAN see exactly why..,.,where in that phrase do you see my saying anything about “evil men” forcing people to do anything? Load of rubbish? Yeah, everything you said is “rubbish”, and snowflake? an absurd & overused word that i have never used nor will, it’s pathetic. i can tell you are NOT well read at all. i am VERY well spoken & do not mince words & have never had problems communicating with people who understand the english language. i should have realized this nasty & vile caveman thread was NO place for me to ever utter a word. not only are you disgusting & grossly ignorant & misogynistic to a delusional degree that is almost laughable, but you are STUPID & don’t bother reading. I stand by anything I say & clearly pointed out that you are incorrect just as the other fucking dope was incorrect. you should have read more books as a kid instead of licking walls with your propeller beanie on while shitting your Superman pajamas, fuck nut.

        7. back to jezzabell snowflake, your tough grrrl attitude is just poor taste

        8. for such an edumacated grrrl you sure use a lot of profanity, the milk is sour.

        10. YOU are poor taste, period. Keep in mind, you are the one who picked on me for no good reason, in a completely unwarranted way. This makes you a non-gentleman douchebag of the worst kind. Sit back & reflect on that & give yourself a nice pat on the back. Your apparent “style” that’s been reflected to me speaks volumes & you are all kinds of yuk, straight up. Any woman knows this about a man who will pick on her ONLINE of all places, when she’s done nothing to initiate such negative, insipid & pathetic communique. Also, stop using the word snowflake, it isn’t even remotely applicable here & is a stupid shit brain word that is overused by douchebags & stupid online bullies, oh right, like you. Now go back to your hand & your teenage girl porn & leave me the hell alone, sorry excuse for spent sperm.

  36. I don’t think i can remember an instance when i’ve heard or saw 2 or a group of women (including in my entourage) speak together about any subject other than relationship, food, fashion, TV or the latest media sensation.
    Never about science, history, philosophy, metaphysics, geopolitics or politics.
    The only time they talk about politics is to say how great of a politician Justin Trudeau is (a claim clearly only based on the man’s looks and his liberal/sentimental ideology) or to size up to other men in a conversation only to end up regurgatating what they’ve heard on MSM.
    If only they just admitted they have no other interests than the ones mentioned above instead of claiming the contrary just so they can maintain their delusions of physical and intellectual equality with men.
    Be a women, BE the weaker sex. There’s no shame in it, it is attractive and its what we want you to be.

    1. Better than faking it and crying about being unsuccessful at it. You are exactly right with this comment;”Be a women, BE the weaker sex. There’s no shame in it, it is attractive and its what we want you to be.”
      They fail miserably at being pseudo intellectually comparable to men.

  37. The author has obviously never met an Australian woman.He would LOVE,LOVE AND LOVE American girls if he did,they are amateurs in the brainless game in comparison with the Aussie “sisters”.

  38. Worse is when they use these terms (especially the execrable “delish”) about things that are not food.

    1. Because they heard it on Rachael Ray show, the View, the Chew and Oprah…Therefore they think it is relevant, trendy and “smart”….like a dumb sheep is “smart”.

  39. Point in fact. I was travelling with a bunch of women from all over the world. The lone American woman was the only one who couldn’t manage an adult conversation.

  40. After reading Lord Tennyson’s work, and engraving this in my brain:
    “Weakness to be wroth with weakness! woman’s pleasure, woman’s pain—
    Nature made them blinder motions bounded in a shallower brain:
    Woman is the lesser man, and all thy passions, match’d with mine,
    Are as moonlight unto sunlight, and as water unto wine—”
    I don’t have any expectations of a decent conversation with a woman.

    1. They can order food in a restaurant but can’t boil an egg either. Go figure. Saw some women comment on a Youtube video on a bidet in Italy, they thought it was to wash the vagina, um wrong, it’s used to wash the anus after defecation.

  43. This is because they only talk with other females. They’ve been taught men have nothing interesting to say and to ignore it.

  44. I’ve trained myself to ignore Anglo women. I have zero interest in anything they say, do, think, etc. I can safely assume that 99.9999% of their blather will only confirm what I already knew: They’re soulless sheeple.
    I actually refer to them as “organic voids”.

  46. You know I don’t mean any offense with this, but talking about how red pill you might be while avoiding American women is like saying how good you are at video games only playing on easy mode with cheat codes turned on.

    2. White knighting is embarrassing to men who have shed their brainwashing you know…

    3. Being Red Pill is the very reason for avoiding certain types of women.
      Red Pill is not the same as PUA or Alpha.
      Get your definitions straight.

  47. Ah yes, American wymyn …. not only are they fat, but they also are stupid liberal SJWs. I’d rather watch the ball game

  48. Ugh, reality TV. The fact that Survivor has lasted this long is scary.
    And don’t get me started on Big Brother, or as I call it, “Pretty People Problems”.

  49. IF it were not for need of laundry done semi-monthly and dogcrap cleaned from back yard on odd occasions not sure that doing more than renting “it” is worth costs involved.
    Gimmie a medium rare steak, head of lettuce and beers to wash down. Don’t want to discuss my chow, need to KILL it.

  50. Back in the ’80s my young (in her 20s) Finnish female cousin asked me if American women really are as stupid as they seem to be in American movies. I replied that all too many of them are.

  51. As much as I think this website is a breeding ground for White nationalism and misogyny, I actually think this article has some merit. I’ve seen all of this myself. I hate talking about reality TV, I don’t give a fuck about what you had for lunch, and I honestly don’t care about your relationship *that* much, especially if I’ve given you advice countless times about how to handle an issue. As for politics, I’ve seen a mixture. I have friends that I can talk politics with and it doesn’t turn into an emotional meltdown. Likewise, I have both male and female friends who go into hysterics if you disagree with them about anything.

    1. Cop-out on the the preface. Most articles criticizing women on this site also point readers towards females that they feel have it right. That’s not misogyny. Feminism on the other hand tends to condemn all men for being men–misandryl “men are born violent” and “men are predisposed to rape”. As opposed to “western women are getting fatter”. The latter indicates that the baseline woman is good, it’s this subgroup of women that are no longer good.

      1. This website’s ideal woman is a subservient domestic sex slave, so yeah, still misogyny. I don’t see this website giving female scientists or leaders credit- in fact, I see articles on here saying women have no place in the sciences or in leadership. You want to really tell me that isn’t misogyny? What makes the ideas on this website any different than the ideas that ISIS and the Taliban have on women?
        Also, I see far more men who make the argument that they can’t control themselves around attractive women because “biology” than I do feminists arguing that all men are rapists. I have seen several feminist blogs and pages that make the argument that men are NOT prone to being rapists by nature, and that our society needs to stop making excuses for men who rape. Then again, considering the fact that Roosh V is an admitted serial rapist himself, perhaps that point falls on deaf ears.

        1. Well, you’re a troll, IMHO. But thanks for putting some effort into it!
          Anyway– “This website’s ideal woman…” is a bit of a generalization as their are a number of viewpoints expressed and an acknowledgement that different men are looking for different things. The ideal woman is different depending on your goals.
          Sure there are PUAs/gamers/hedonists that are delighted that third wave feminism has pushed women towards promiscuity and being sex toys (via abortion/birth control). Those women are ideal for their purpose in both participants engaging in debauchery on the cock carousel.
          There are also traditionalists who see the above as bad. That both men and women are generally less happy and it creates a destabilized society. They believe the traditional concept of a life-long marriage, with marriage as a partnership and raising a family is better for society. Have you seen Mark Steyn’s video on demographic shifts in Europe, population decline in Japan etc.? Very interesting stuff.
          There’s also the later generation of MGTOWs who claim to want nothing to do with women as all. Not any articles from that viewpoint that I recall.
          So, articles on the website can be seen as a bit schizophrenic– Hey, bang all the women you can, right alongside –Hey all this hedonism is bad for society.
          “What makes the ideas on this website any different than the ideas that ISIS and the Taliban have on women?”
          Because on this website, it acknowledges that women hold all the cards in our society. They are the gatekeepers to sex, rape in our society has always been taught to be wrong and one of the most shameful acts one can commit.
          So- whether you want to play with the live sex toys of third wave feminism or seek a woman for a lifelong partnership, you need to understand women, what they desire, truly want, how to market yourself to them. So you get to yes in a mutual agreement.
          ..

        2. Most men on the site are totally disgusted by female promiscuity. So sex slave is completely off.
          The men on this website mostly prefer feminine women, who are nurturing, healthy and virginal. These are the same women that men have preferred throughout history and were our mothers and grandmothers.
          The men on this website are simply against villanizing male nature, and levying substantial taxes on being born male. In the United States, these taxes are becoming unbearable.
          The rational people here don’t want subservient, meek women. We just want women to return to being our partners, rather than feminism convincing so many men and women that they’re our enemies and that men are somehow toxic, and need to be fixed. It’s ruining our society. Families as they were 30 years ago were great. My family growing up was great. This new, breastfeed children until they’re 10, stay-at-home dad, ugly, masculine butch mom and then divorce is awful. We all know it is. And to make it worse, dad isn’t even allowed to enjoy his work life anymore. All of this misguided bullshit about equal pay (the data says it’s already equal!) is making it painful to be a hard-working man.
          For the most part, you can live in whatever fantasy world you want, ingenuity is a predominantly male trait. Men also have a non-zero advantage in mathematical/visual-spacial thinking ( in balance with female advantages in nurturing ). We clearly have an advantage in science and engineering.
          Closing the door to women is wrong, but affirmative action for the entire female population in STEM is fucking horrific. Hiring inferior talent just because they’re the other gender–in your place–is horrible. I hope you get to enjoy this treat so you can get a clue.
          I’m an engineer, and it’s bullshit. A a white male whose family immigrated here a hundred years after slavery, worked their way up from the poorest rungs, I’ve been put at a competitive disadvantage to nearly 80% of the population–all females, as well as minority males. Come on already. My family is not entitled, they never made their money off of anyone else’s back. We’re peasants, dock workers, powerline men, firemen. Give me a break.

        3. The virgin fetish on this website is nothing short of creepy. Sounds like a shit ton of men who want inexperienced women who can’t compare their lack of bedroom skills to another man. If you want a “virginal” wife (ick), then perhaps you should abstain from sex yourself. And tons of men on here do want a domestic sex slave- that doesn’t mean they want women to be promiscuous. Of course, these same men feel entitled to women’s bodies while also shaming women who are willing to consent to sexual activity.
          Also, white male engineer, you’re not a victim of anything. Stop crying. There are qualified women who manage to get decent STEM and other successful careers without affirmative action. What is happening is you don’t like seeing women gain social status and you’re seeking a scapegoat.

        4. The thing is, while there are several approaches to how the men on this site view women as sexual objects, they still do in the end. Some men here believe women collectively exist to serve several men, i.e. sexual promiscuity of women. Others believe women exist to serve one man sexually, i.e. virgin until marriage etc…but either way you look at it, the overarching idea is that women should be treated as second class citizens.
          IMO, it boils down to consent. Some women are perfectly happy in a traditional marriage where the man is the breadwinner. Some are happy engaging in casual sex. And, others are happy to be married but also on equal status of their partner. As long as the choices are responsible and not harming others, Idgaf. My problem is that a bunch of men think it’s up to them to decide what’s best for women. Sorry, that isn’t your decision. You’re certainly entitled to having a preference on what type of wife/partner you’d like, but you’re not entitled to trying to force women to all change to suit your personal preferences. Likewise, women are not entitled to expecting all men to change their personal preferences.
          Women do not hold all the cards in our society. They are surely better off than women in third world countries, but that doesn’t erase issues of sexism here. Bear in mind, sexism negatively impacts both men and women (read: custody laws that favor women due to the notion that women are better at raising children, even though that isn’t necessarily true). My problem with MRAs is that they only debunk sexism when it doesn’t favor them. MRAs generally think women should have the same status they did 60+ years ago, yet they still complain about women being goldiggers or about the unfair custody laws. If you insist that women should be financially dependent on men and that women should be the ones at home with the kids, then why are you surprised when laws and other societal structures favor those traditions? You can’t have it both ways.

        5. Do you know what happens to job candidates when any reference to there gender is removed?

        6. Removing reference to gender doesn’t help recruit more women. But, I don’t think quotas and affirmative action are good long-term solutions anyway. I do think there are biases against women in certain fields. In an ideal world, a person would be hired purely based on their qualifications alone. Tons of white guys get jobs from nepotism, but I don’t see as many people complaining about that as they do about affirmative action.

        7. But, even with not referencing gender or affirmative action, there will still be qualified women who fit the needs of STEM positions. I see no reason to not hire them if they meet the standard.

        8. When it comes to the sexual market place– yes, women hold all the cards.
          They are the gatekeepers to sex, hence why folks discuss game, how to improve one’s appeal to women etc.
          An acknowledgement that it is in their hands. We don’t have a rape culture- all men in the US have been taught it is abhorrent crime.
          I can’t decide what’s best for any individual. But I think a strong argument can be made that the family unit (mother and father in a partnership raising a family together) is essential for a stable society.
          A goal of feminism was the destruction of marriage. As the president of NOW declared a while back, women can not be truly equal until the institution of marriage is destroyed. I think we’re almost there. Enjoy.

        9. “Women are the gatekeepers to sex”, and yet, so many guys don’t seem to think so because they feel entitled to women’s bodies. Obviously, not ALL guys are like that (before you say “but not all men”). We do have a cultural issue where guys think they’re entitled to women’s attention, time, and even bodies. You say we dont have a rape culture, yet countless judges are dishing out the lightest sentences for rapists like Brock Turner, or that man in Montana who raped his own child and got only 60 days in jail. The fact that women are taught to be on guard at all times when out in public speaks volumes of a rape culture. Rape culture, as a concept, does not mean our society thinks rape is OK. The overwhelming majority of people will agree that rape is abhorrent. However, we still have countless myths surrounding rape and assault. People think rape is akin to some spooky man in an alley who attacks a woman at knife-point, yet the majority of rapes take place between people who know each other, and often there are no weapons involved.
          I don’t think marriage should be destroyed, but I also don’t believe that people should stay in toxic marriages. Most feminists are simply saying that no one should be forced or pressured into staying in an abusive or unfaithful marriage. Any sensible person would agree. In the “good days”, battered women stuck with their abusers to save face and because they had no skills to make a living on their own. Even now, we still see that happen. I say these types of marriages should absolutely be destroyed.

        10. We have a leniency problem in this country. For a lot of different crimes. Women get even lighter sentences than men for the same crime with the same background. Similar to people from ‘better’ backgrounds are treated more leniently in the courts. And people who can actually afford good, connected, lawyers get better outcomes.
          Countless judges? No. Very few. Hence why the one or two handing out egregious light punishments make the news country wide. Because it is well outside the norm.
          I teach my son to be on guard at all times. Men are victims of rapist and serial killers as well. I won’t argue semantics over what exactly the definition of rape culture is. I will state emphatically– it isn’t ok here, it hasn’t been viewed as ok for over a century. In fact, beating the crap out of a rapist is met with approval.
          A lot of feelings of entitlement from both sexes. But again– the woman has the power in saying yes or no. Reading the articles on this site drives home that point. Regardless of the man’s goal it always comes down to finding a woman who is agreeable. Not forcing her.
          BTW- reminds me, could you please point to where Roosh admits to being a serial rapist? He does get on the threads here– so maybe he’ll get on here and confirm your take. But I doubt it. He did write a sarcastic article making the point that given the standards on false rape accusations, it seems the only way to be safe from a false accusation of rape is getting a signed agreement from any woman who enters your home that they agree to be raped. Still wouldn’t work, they can always claim regret rape no matter how enthusiastically they participated at the time.
          Most feminists. Well, here’s the semantics thing again. Because folks define feminism very differently. There’s the average man or woman who has no issue with equal legal rights and responsibilities. They pretty much want the same thing they always have, find someone, pair up, marry, raise a family, grow old together in a partnership with mutual support. Camille Paglia and Christina Hoff Somers are probably the feminist figures closest to that concept. Somers defines herself as an equity feminist.
          But the leaders of feminism do cite marriage as a patriarchal institution which must be destroyed. They’ve worked decades on accomplishing that goal. Through their writings, participation and control of university gender studies, and leadership of various women’s organizations.
          Battered women (and men) stick with their abusers for a lot of reasons. I know a woman who got into serial relationships with abusers. Never a guy who didn’t hit her. Always amazed me how they could find each other. Sure, some marriages are bad, they should end. There are legitimate reasons to divorce. However, most nowadays are convenience. And someone divorcing simply because they don’t want to fulfill the obligations of marriage shouldn’t be able to turn around and insist they continue to receive the financial benefits. Want the benefits, stay married. Don’t want to fulfill the obligations,fine, give up the benefits. I’m not arguing for people to stay in bad marriages, I’m arguing for equality in the divorce process.
          If a guy is violating the marital agreement being violent or cheating, but the woman has upheld the obligations she should continue to receive the benefits.
          However, if it’s no fault than it’s no fault. Marriage ends then obligations on both parties should end. Current system incentivizes the lower income partner breaking up the marriage for ‘feelz’ as they would say around here.

        11. m a, that is a stellar post as always.
          May I add something regarding that sense of entitlement? I think women perceive this a bit differently than do men. Rape is the most severe manifestation of that entitlement. Lesser degrees exist though. The asst prof who tried to fail me because I wouldn’t sleep with him. The man who drove me to the Bronx at 1 am and ordered me out of his car because I wouldn’t sleep with him. A dozen more who screamed at me, insulted me, even threatened me because I wouldn’t sleep with them. All because they felt a movie or a dinner or an hour chat ( not a drunken night at a club) earned them my body. It’s not rape, no, but that sense of entitlement is becoming the norm, not the exception. It’s ugly, it hurts, and many girls succumb to the pressure of it.
          Tbf, I think the increasingly vocal male frustration when told ‘no’ can be attributed not only to basic masculine nature but also to a spoiled, self indulgent culture and the precedent set by so many promiscuous girls. If guys expect it, they’ve been given plenty of reason to.
          In the interest of further fairness, women are as capable of harassing and insulting their non sexually compliant sisters as men are. Note sanrio’s comment on virgin brides above. Unpleasant but I could tell many more stories much worse than that. The difference being, as cruel as a woman can be, there’s almost no chance she will rape me.
          I hope I haven’t said anything offensive. I really do appreciate your posts.

        12. Thanks. A valid point, my sisters’ had varying experiences with guys who had a hard time accepting no. Worst was my sister who worked as a cocktail waitress and the number of guys who felt entitled to hit on her and be annoying. Some guys just shouldn’t drink.
          Funnily enough, I know two guys with the same complaints about guys. They’re straight, but good looking and dress well. Both have had issues with gays sending them drinks in a bar, pestering them, and basically harassing them despite being told in no uncertain terms they aren’t going to ‘try it to see if they’ll like it’…. Really is true, guys are visual and will just take a shot at something they see that they like. Made me doubt the whole GADAR thing…

        13. Which is just fine. God willing that day won’t come when men give up on taking shots at something!
          I don’t feel harassed if a stranger takes a shot and asks for my number – and most men who have and were turned down took it well enough. Extreme feminists consider the request an implied demand and therefore harassment. That’s unreasonable, yes? I mean to say the problem isn’t so much when a man asks for a woman’s phone number but when he feels entitled to sex just because she gave him her phone number.
          I think people under 30 or so have forgotten the concept of dating. Or specifically, dating which may or may not lead to sex. You are either hooking up or not. That’s inspiring the entitlement accusations

        14. I actually agree here but most successful women in STEM are overwhelmingly Asian.

        15. That is true, and I suspect because their parents don’t always raise them to be airheaded princesses. I do not believe women are naturally daft, but at least in some parts of the US, we raise our daughters to be spoiled bitches who aren’t expected to think or work for anything.

    2. Its the naked truth. Women have done this to themselves, cucks like you helped them.
      Feminism has never been about rights or equality, just more efficient way of infiltrating manipulative and unearned gynocentrism and turning society into a vehicle to criminalize innocent men and destroy humankind for the sake of selfish consumerism and turning men into slaves to steal their labor and resources.
      Feminism has never been about rights or equality, just more efficient way of infiltrating manipulative and unearned gynocentrism and turning society into a vehicle to criminalize innocent men and destroy humankind for the sake of selfish consumerism and turning men into slaves to steal their labor and resources. Feminist don’t even care about children except that they are token insurance policies supported by hyper gynocentric state and courts playing to the tune of the constant whine of imaginary “victimization”.
      Feminism turned relationships and child bearing into legalized state supported prostitution for court ordered judgments and legalized wholesale state sponsored and sanctioned civil contracted PROST1TUTION.
      REAL relationsh1ts don’t require a civil contract, but its all women seek anymore. 80 percent of the divorces come from women who “are not happy”(the universal wild card played to get that divorce) in the relationsh1t THEY CREATED, but they are virtually guaranteed through the courts regardless of WHY they are getting it because they have the state sanctioned MARRIAGE CIVIL CONTRACT and gynocentric judges, regardless of how good of a wife they never were. These parasites JUST NEVER STOP in their self indulgence and victimhood.
      Apologizing for their actions and then pointing at red herrings like “misogyny” and “white nationalism” is pure laziness and intellectual dishonesty to set up your inability to support your point. Trifling conversations are women’s way of faking relevance in the world around them. Men go MGTOW because they are sick of their vapid and self absorbed narcissism, and relentless consumerism.

      1. blah blah blah *insert conspiracy theory about feminism* *insert “I hate women, but I am NOT a misogynist, you’re just being irrational”* #MakingWhiteDudesTypeParagraphs. Yeah, I skimmed over this steaming pile of excrement, LOL’d, and am now moving on.

        1. Not a theory at all, but simply provable to any man who reads my post, seriously consider what I said, then observe for themselves as women prove it to them to be true, and they will, because they can’t help themselves, driven by a selfish hypergamy they cannot control.

        2. LOLOLOL don’t forget to adjust your tinfoil hat there, you pathetic autist neckbeard.

        3. Regardless of your pretty pathetic insults, I’m Wrecking the unearned feminist gravy train. The expiration date for XX genes to reproduce is 35 when the woman’s appearance splatters on the wall…don’t be mad though, buy steal and adopt stray cats to be your foster children. Pfffft pffft pfft…..

        5. bruh, period jokes are weak af. You can do better. You could have at least made a rape threat or called me fat.

        6. Children are awful anyway. I would much rather have pets than shitty, whiny ass kids who keep me up at night crying and crapping themselves. My partner feels the same way. We can actually use our income for ourselves rather than on Little Timmy’s diaper rash cream.

        7. Good, you are doing your part then to not pollute the human gene pool….

        8. Lmao, why do you consider that as an insult? that’s like making fun of someone for being wealthy. “wow, look at you and all of your disposable income!! you jackass!!!”. People have kids mostly due to social pressure these days, and plenty of them regret it because kids are awful and a waste of money. They’re most often a bad investment.

    3. “this website is a breeding ground for White nationalism and misogyny”
      Not as bad as you would think, yes there are some, but keep in mind that throughout your life, you have been inundated with political correctness. To suddenly throw that away is a shock to your system. “White Nationalism” can really be looked as being proud of who you are, despite your race. “Misogyny” is an acknowledgement of differences between the sexes. When I first looked at this site, I had similar thoughts, but the openness to say what you want is refreshing.

      1. You can be against the blatant racism and misogyny on this website and still not favor political correctness. There is a middle ground. The material on this website is just as laughable, factually wrong, and insane as some of the stuff that SJWs publish. Yes, men and women are different, but that does not mean women should be subjugated and treated as second class citizens, as many on here propose.

        1. “Yes, men and women are different, but that does not mean women should be subjugated and treated as second class citizens”
          It’s called wearing the pants.

        2. Yup, women like men who wear pants. Quickest way to turn her off is say “I don’t know, what do you want to do?”

        3. No, it’s called subjugation and women across the planet are getting kinda sick of it. If you happen to meet a woman who is actually into being a submissive partner, then more power to you. But don’t fucking expect 50% of the global population to want to be treated as second class citizens, especially for the sake of neckbeards and basement dwellers.

        4. Subjugation? You may mean subjugation to the cubicle and to daddy government.
          Men are the second class citizens in the West, not women. That’s what the whole manosphere is about.

    4. Why “White” nationalism? Why not just nationalism? Do not the other races who live in the US have a love of country also?

      1. I’ve seen countless examples of people on here who hate non-Whites and Jews on this page. Perhaps the creator, Roosh, may not since he himself is Middle Eastern, but even he has biases against other minority groups. Lots of neo-Nazi wannabes on here.

        1. *sigh* – the old neo-nazi cannard – I doubt you even know what a Nazi stood for.

        2. so you’re telling me a bunch of sweaty white neckbeards in their parents’ basements who hate Jews and non-whites *aren’t* neo-Nazis, or at least wannabes?

    5. Welcome. Your personal mental process on this site will go like this:
      Stage-1 (Denial): “What is this cavemanish-sounding “Game” of which you speak? Actually, I’d rather you didn’t answer that.”
      Stage-2 (Anger): “SEEEXIIISST!!!”
      Stage-3 (Bargaining): “… but even if Game is real, it doesn’t mean anything, does it? You know, women like soft cuddly fat guys, right? Game only works on a certain kind of girl… (or something).”
      Stage-4 (Depression): “Who could possibly have imagined that reality was so evil?”
      Stage-5 (Acceptance): “Feminism really has been a mountain of dishonest garbage, hasn’t it? Guess it’s time to learn Game or get married with a used up slut who is going to ruin my life.”

      1. Not quite. I still think this site is garbage, but like a train wreck, I can’t look away. Roosh V is a serial rapist and a piece of excrement. I will not look upon him favorably.

        1. Nah, you already recognize you are attached to this website. This is just beginning. As you see, we are a very inclusive community.

        2. I have met surprisingly civil people on here, but that does not mean I am inclined to agree with most of the contents. Some of the articles are more neutral in terms of their hatred of women. I’d wager a good 25-40% of articles here are written by satirists and trolls.

        3. Yes, some articles are clickbait on purpose. And there is also satire. Someone needs to be very stupid to take those ones seriously.

      2. Or, if you are already married, your personal mental process will go like this:
        Stage 1 (Denial): “what is this tripe? No woman would really go for guys like this!”
        Stage 2 (Anger): “You guys are just using women!”
        Stage 3 (Bargaining): “Yeah I’d admit that some women go for the “bad boy” but they are not all like that, I got a good girl”
        Stage 4 (Depression): “Our world sucks, why did feminism/liberalism do this to screw up the family unit so much?”
        Stage 5 (Acceptance): “Well, it is what it is, guess I better redouble my efforts to strengthen my family so I don’t get screwed over in divorce court and lose my children.”

  52. There are geniuses that are lazy, hardworkers that aren’t geniuses, then there’s women that are neither geniuses or hardworkers

    1. no one here hates women at all. Embarrassed for them? Yes. Ashamed of them? Possibly.
      Frustarted with them? Definitely…but hate, no, in fact we love women – feminine women who understand the complimentary nature of the sexes.

  54. He lost me with that ‘Ukraine Living’ at the end.
    The land of Chernobyl and arctic winters.
    Wtf

  55. TLDR: Women cluck like chickens about trivial bullshit.
    I don’t know why the author seems so upset about it, it’s not a new western phenomenon and it wasn’t created by feminism.
    It’s just nature, it’s the way women communicate and establish their internal heirarchy using low-key social cues, facial expressions, tone of voice etc.
    This is how they decide who is the most popular, who is shunned etc. without saying it directly.
    This has been going on for millenia, around the hearth while the men were hunting, around the sewing circle, now at the cafe.
    It’s just how women are.
    Only problem is when they do it at work / instead of actual work.

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