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5 Ways Porn Might Not Be Bad For Your Game

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There is a tendency in manosphere and game circles to regard pornography as a uniformly bad thing. Watching it saps time, energy, and the motivation to go and hit on girls in real life. This thinking is not mere conjecture. In the past, scientific studies have backed up the view that fap movies are linked to faltering physical desire, with psychiatrist Norman Doidge, author of The Brain That Changes Itself, noting that fans suffer “increasing difficulty in being turned on by their actual sexual partners, though they still consider them attractive” and have to fantasize about porn scenes while having sex.

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But a new study of 280 men by the University of California suggests that porn might actually have a beneficial effect on its viewers, with a positive correlation indicated between time spent watching it and the desire to have sex. According to a report in The Daily Telegraph, men who watch porn are shown to score more highly for arousal than men who don’t, and, contrary to popular belief, erectile dysfunction is not linked to the number of hours viewed.

Of course, it’s possible to pick holes in a survey of this kind. 280 isn’t the largest sample size (although it’s statistically rigorous), and most of the respondents were in their twenties – let’s face it, guys of that age are likely to be horny most of the time regardless. Also, it would seem likely that a guy who watches a lot of porn is going to be more sexual in general than one who doesn’t. Still, the survey throws up some interesting questions that challenge received thinking in this area.

I am aware that I risk a backlash from the no-fap brigade here. Personally, my feelings about eschewing masturbation are mixed. I’ve tried no-fap periods and I haven’t noticed any particular increase in focus and productivity at work, or indeed success with girls. In fact, the only tangible effect has been to give me a painful set of blue balls.

That said, I do recognize the value of limiting masturbation, and certainly refrain from it during times of the day when I’m working on projects (as it tends to sap my energy temporarily) and prior to a night out. Roosh has an interesting post on this here.

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Of course, I have gone through long periods of avoiding porn altogether (it is possible to fap without it!), uncertain of its effects and nervous of going down the rabbit hole of addiction. But having also had phases when my usage has been relatively high, I am able to compare, and I can definitely state that it was during the latter that my sex drive has been at its height.

By the way, I don’t intend to give wholesale endorsement to a survey that suggests that men should be casual about indulging in what for a minority can be a damaging habit. It’s a little like those news articles that tell us that a glass of red wine a day is good for you – perhaps, but not if you’re an alcoholic.

Therefore I would caution you to know your limits. If you find yourself watching porn to the exclusion of everything else then you are developing a compulsion and you should stop. But let’s be honest – we now live in a world where well-produced, high-definition hard-core pornography is freely available in a volume that that has never been seen before.

It is naïve to assume that most guys who read ROK don’t use it to a greater or lesser degree. Therefore, counter-intuitive as it may seem, it is worth considering those reasons why its judicious use might actually help your game.

1. It Puts You In A Permanently Horny Mood

Whatever your view of fap-matter might be, the fact is that it gets you horny. A YouPorn session is almost like a wake-up call, reminding you that sex is happening out there right now, and making you eager for a slice of the pie.

2. It Makes You See Girls As Sex Objects

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The reason feminists complain about porn is because, in their view, it objectifies women. This is precisely why the committed swordsman can benefit from watching it. In order to truly cut a swath through the Elysium fields of top notch punani, it is necessary to objectify girls.

Seeing them as delicate individuals with complex thoughts and feelings leads to “nice guy” behavior, which, as we all know, dries snatch quicker than sand. Watching a succession of cute young things banging on camera will soon desensitize you to their individual quirks, and encourage you to pursue them for sex with single-minded intensity.

3. It Teaches You How to Be Good at Sex

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Let’s face it, porn has done a far better job at teaching the mechanics of sex than generations’ worth of sex ed classes at high school ever have. Feminine-primary sources claim that porn creates unrealistic expectations of sex, and they might be right. But they also give young men (and women) a better drilling in the art of drilling than almost any other medium.

4. It Stops You From Thinking In Terms Of Good Girls vs. Bad Girls

Belle Knox - good girl from Duke gone bad

Belle Knox – good girl from Duke gone bad

This excellent article illuminates an obvious truth. It’s very difficult to maintain the illusion that there are “good girls” and “bad girls” and that these groups are distinct from one another when one sees the sweetest, most angelic looking ladies taking part in the most debauched sexual acts imaginable on-screen.

The sheer volume of porn available in 2015 means that it is inevitable that a girl who looks and behaves almost exactly like the one up on that pedestal you’ve created for her is doing all sorts of outrageous things on a laptop near you now. There are no good girls – merely girls who have (so far) proved resistant to your own particular brand of game.

5. It Focuses Your Desire And Gives You Something to Aim For

Watching attractive women getting down on-screen demonstrates to your subconscious that sex is real and tangible, and somehow makes it seem more attainable, even if you’re in the midst of a dry spell. It can also put the fire in your belly to pursue it.

In Sperm Wars, Robin Baker speculates that the reason that men are aroused by porn is that the sight of other guys sexing girls raises their desire to impregnate them with their own sperm, so there is at least the chance that they can genetically replicate. This competitive desire is retained after your porn session has ended and you are in the club, and you can harness it to your advantage.

As with everything, moderation is key. But don’t be too quick to assume that porn, along with any other resource scorned by feminists and left-leaning media, is entirely without utility.

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152 thoughts on “5 Ways Porn Might Not Be Bad For Your Game”

  1. “The reason feminists complain about porn is because, in their view, it objectifies women.”
    The real reason they complain about it is because they actually like it, and wouldn’t mind being in it themselves. Probably unhappy they’re not being objectified.

    1. Maybe… I still think feminists complain about porn mainly because it serves as a short-term end-run around having to put up with all their nonsense in order to get sex out of them.
      Prostitution is the same sort of thing. That’s why they push to keep it illegal or insanely expensive.

      1. so, in a roundabout way, she is saying she wants to get catcalled? Is that what Im reading>?

    1. More tragic magic. I’m surprised the pavement didn’t crack when she hit the ground.

    2. Absolutely hilarious when they break out in a chorus “…death to America, death to America”

    3. Feminist: “Let me ask you a question? Have you ever been raped? Blah, blah, blah. All men sexually harass women. Blah, blah, blah.”
      *Black Israelite (black supremacist or whatever) shoves her to the ground*
      All the Black Israelites chant: “Death to America!”
      Feminist: Call the police!
      Police: What’s the problem here?
      Feminist: I was assaulted by that black man!
      Police: You provoked blacks to violence?! Don’t you know that black skin trumps having a vagina in the progressive hierarchy of the New World Order? Arrest her!!
      Feminist: No! How can this be happening?
      Black Israelites (4:47 to end of video): “So just leave us alone. Let us preach the downfall of you people. You can’t do anything about it. Death to America! Death to America! Death to the so called ‘white woman.’ ”
      http://www.daybydaycartoon.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/011615.jpg
      More of these guys:

      (video 2:26) Black racist #1 to random scrawny white teen: Hey you so called white dude, get ready for slavery [of whites], you little bitch. Get ready to get your ass beat.
      Black Israelite crowd: That’s right!
      Black racist #1: I’m ready.. (makes fist) I’m ready to throw a javelin through a damn Edomite.
      (video 6:46) Black racist points to white guy in electric wheelchair: So the only reason he is on the Earth is to die in thermonuclear destruction. That’s why the Mossad (?) created him. What else is he good for?
      Black racist #2: Yeah, he’s a nobody. He’s a wicked spirit.
      Black racist #3: The Devil’s in him. He’s the Devil.
      Handicapped white guy starts to say something.
      Black racist: Shut up. Shut up.
      (video 7:37) Black racist #1 to white man and his daughter: That’s your daughter? So here’s what’s going to happen. You’re going to be put to death. She’s going to be took, be a concubine.
      Black racist #2: She’s going to like it!
      Black racist #1: Our people, they’re doing what we’re doing right now, in your homeland, condemning you, boy. We’re going to get your daughter. We’re going to get your daughter.
      Black racist #2: Your daughter is going to be taken.

  4. Nice article. But could we instead get a pic of a hot Czech porn star like Christina Jolie, not an annoying feminist American one? Women in American porn are annoying, overly-aggressive, too loud, and tattooed. It’s gotten like watching men with vaginas. If you’re gonna watch porn, go foreign — then use that as an influence for your personal life.

    1. “If you’re gonna watch porn, go foreign — then use that as an influence for your personal life.”
      Not only are american women in real life lousy, but now apparently their repulsiveness transfers to american made porn.

      1. You want proof? Just compare Christina Jolie (100 percent real) to someone like the fake-titted Lisa Ann. Then there’s the attitude. No comparison, and that’s just one example.

      1. very precise and well aimed. He deserves some kind of decorative ribbon for that.

      2. I wonder what the aftermath was for that guy. With women you have to let them beat on you before you can retaliate.

        1. That’s alright. I’m a real man and can take a blow or two before I defend myself.

        2. I think she did assault him, but it’s hard to see because the other guy in the frame.
          It’s quite astounding how these women think its just OK to hit a guy in the face, obviously not expecting retaliation. I think we will see more retaliation by men over time.

        4. As long as that blow isn’t your Adam’s apple, ball sack, or a knife through the heart, or you don’t expect women to take it there?

  7. I reckon Laci Green wouldn’t mind being in porn. She already has the right name for it.

  8. Porn ain’t the way it used to be… now 40-something women like Lisa Ann or India Summer are treated as the most desirable “A” list performers, and degenerate gutter trash like Bonnie Rotten are the “In” things for the early 20’s crowd. I mean LOOK AT THIS PIECE OF TRASH

    2. Talk about putting a bumper sticker, or maybe 50 bumper stickers, on a lambo. Even oilfield blue collar men dont get this many tattoos.

    3. Not sure what’s worse, the ugly tats or fake breasts. You think feminists would be against this, since it sends the message the natural female form is flawed and only buying crap to embellish it with will make it “sexy.” But feminists are too dense to pick that up.

    4. I read that Lisa Ann is the most popular porn star in the WORLD. India Summer is pretty cute and can look normal when she plays those MILF roles. Now this Bonny Rotten is really filthy. That is someone’s daughter. Can you imagine being her parents??

    5. ….And thats when she’s looking good. I get it that she’s really gonzo but this trend of beautiful women getting all these random tattoos is FUCKING AWFUL. Hey ladies!Guys dont like that shitty sailor ink meets Kat Von D human spider web clusterfuck bullshit. I guarantee these girls will regret this trendy shit just like they do with tribal tatoos in 20 years.
      As for porn as long as you dont jerk off a lot and use it to fuel you than its good. I’m of the mind if you dont use it ,you lose it. Checkn in on a porn site for a few minutes tends to keep you in attitude of hightened sexuality. Women like and sense it.
      Some people say porn sex isnt real sex. I know of a few ex girlfriends that would beg to differ. Guys like Nacho Vidal, Rocco Sifreddi and Manuel Farrare and David Shade have taught me a few things as far as how women like to get fucked which is usually rough, dominant, nasty and with a lot of filthy talk.
      Beta nice guys have the mind set that women want to be treated like an angel. Yeah as soon as you get them in the bedroom they want you to treat them like the filthy slut that they keep hidden from society. Almost ALL of them want that unless they have issues usually based in opressive and stifling religous bullshit upbringing.
      Girls and women are just as sexual and just as deviant and nasty as guys are. Its in all of them. Its up to an alpha fucker to bring it out of them. Study the masters and you will have a woman wrapped around your finger…and cock.

      1. Tell me about it! Imagine her at 50. She’ll look like a discarded apple core in a Port-au-Prince street market.

      3. when i was a teen and just got internet access, i had a crush on lisa ann that lasts until today. if i could meet any pornstar it would be her. so lisa if by any chance you are reading this and want to visit germany, i`d really like to hook up meet you and talk about nice things
        sincerely,
        an athletic fan

        2. You’ve not advanced much in the years since you were thirteen?????
          A sad summation of a mans life

        3. what kind of logic is that? you know, when you are 15 and have a favourite football team, and still like it when you are ten years older, it doesnt mean you didnt advance.
          a sad example of flawed logic. i somewhat think youre the one who is stuck at 13 bro

        4. No Pulse. Comparing the manliness of a sporting arena as football, soccer, wrestling etc with the wimpy and lame pleasures a porn star provides is the height of disservice to similarities.

        5. If at 13, you jerked off to a bitch as Lisa, and now as an adult, you still fantasize about the same bitch, what does that mean? she’s a depreciating asset so to speak, while you as a MAN ought to be an appreciating one. What is a piece of shit to some alpha male somewhere is what you put on some fucked up pedestal of fantasy and idolizing. You no more have a fantasy, bud, you’ve got a fetish for bitch Lisa.

        6. ok, lets make it even more easier to understand: why isnt it possible to like a movie actor for some years and still advance mentally?

        7. idk what your problem is nor do i know why you interpret so much. when i hear about lisa ann, i still like to visualize her, pleasant face you know. then after 5 seconds its over, and im back to business. there is no pedestal and no idolization. telling me i dont have a fantasy is probably your most ridiculous one. maybe go jack off yourself so you dont have to be angry at random guys on the internet who like woman that are garbage in your opinion. she made my early teens better and im grateful for that, thats about it. now take your pills and move on.

        9. “when i was a teen and just got internet access, i had a crush on lisa ann that lasts until today.”
          That’s a problem if it stops you from moving on to a realistic woman. That’s the downside.

      1. Agreed!! Her and Julie Ann were the dynamic duo. Until Julie got a nose job.

    7. I hear what you’re sayin…. when I started getting curious about bitches in my early teen years, the women looked fuck loads more graceful; not tats, no implants, poses that were sexy and tastefull, no “toys”. Today’s westernized females are complete garbage.

      1. So many women have ugly tattoos and multiple piercings, yet they wonder why they can’t get a man to commit to anything but a night of sex.
        It is very simple. No self respecting man wants to be seen with a woman who looks like a prostitute. Tats and piercings are well known slut tells. Can you imagine bring home a tatted up loser with her tongue pierced to meet your mother?
        Of course, anytime those types are told the truth about how they look, they always respond with “IT’S MY BODYYYYYY! I CAN DO WHATEVER I WANT WITH IT!!!!” Sure they can, but there will be consequences.

    8. Amazing how looking like an extra in Road Warrior has become chic and yet these woman wouldnt last more than a few days in that type of scenario….

        1. Road Warrior.
          In Mad Max, things hadnt quite gone to shit yet. The world is on the cusp of Mad Max.

    9. You think that’s bad, you should see what these dumpster sluts look like before makeup and photoshop

    10. Spot on. You used to be able to fantasize about the girl next door, not a circus freakshow.

    12. TBH if she had NO tattoos I would bang her all day.
      She got a cute little slutty face.

  9. “Never go out with a loaded gun” they say. And I think that is something you should take seriously. When a young man doesn’t ejaculate a couple of times a week tension builds. This can go two ways: 1. Testosterone builds, he becomes more goal oriented, thus bold and looks more confident. or: 2. his game becomes tactless and he appears to be a desperate guy. Because young women like to play stupid games enjoying their pussy power and withholding sex these young guys have no other option then to use porn.
    That sucks, but the other side of the story is: With a computer you nowadays can see in 10 minutes more different beautiful naked women than a caveman saw in his entire life. That doesn’t mean it’s harmful for your brain to look at. With the ever increasing drastic measures to constrain men from having extramarital sex porn became our trump card. Men can look at a better body than you (stupid broad) have on demand.
    About the objectification of women:
    I think that men always have treated their women as property. It is actually the last 50 years (under the pressure of feminism) that a belief like that is socially unacceptable. Since the dawn of ages you knew: don’t touch a man’s woman or you will risk your life. A healthy man will always treat a woman as person, but she still is his cum-dumpster after all. It’s just biology.
    Last thing: women should be very happy with porn, prostitution and DNA profiling. Rape would be more prevalent without those things.

    1. “Because young women like to play stupid games enjoying their pussy power and withholding sex these young guys have no other option then to use porn.”
      Sounds like a victim attitude. A guy who can run around with a loaded gun and play cool despite being horny can play the same game. And he can play it better than them; a girl’s strength is a lot of supply. A man’s strength can be his independence.

        4. OK. Do you think you are better at dealing with women in a successful way when you have unloaded balls and are very horny compared to when you are unloaded and feeling not so needy? I would say the latter. besides that, if you are familiar with firearms, you never walk around with a loaded gun – it may go off in unforeseen circumstance.

        5. Needy is not the same as feeling the need.
          Personally, masturbating only serves me as a way to procrastinate. The comfort from unloading takes the drive out of me.
          Why would I carry around a gun that is not loaded? To scare people?

        6. Well, it’s a decision to make. I can see pro’s and cons in both decisions. When you’re a younger guy, you probably are horny a lot. Then starting a night out with a zero balance is a good thing probably. You really say less stupid things that way.
          “Because young women like to play stupid games enjoying their pussy power and withholding sex these young guys have no other option then to use porn.”
          What I am talking about there is what I experienced when I was 15-21. It’s the same age that girls discover what they can get by playing carrot and stick. Don’t tell me that you didn’t experienced that. Where you a victim? No. You where just finding out how the sexual marketplace works. I better could have said girls instead of women. My advice is more for the younger guys. Adult men probably learnt the hard way. Well, I did. I had no mentor..

      2. Whether you jerk off and cum or fuck a harem and cum, if you are going
        after other women, it is BEST to have your balls drained. Period.
        When your balls are drained you can go after chicks a lot more relaxed.
        If
        you’re a dude who has not busted a nut in months, whether that’s from
        jerking off or fucking women, you are going to go crazy when you see a hottie that you want to bang.

    2. This site is called return of kings. Do you think a king would debase himself onto his royal sock out of fear that some common harlot will sense knavely desperation? Ha, the mentality is that these filthy slags should be queuing around the corner for a whiff of his priceless royal elixir. How do you know it’s not harmful to the brain? Rape might not be more prevalent, as those wonders of debauchery might produce a lot more ignoble savage behaviour unbefitting of men, who in their righteous state, are kingly.

      1. Watching a lot of porn (3 or more times a week) probably has a pestiferous effect on libido. I won’t denial that. I believe it. It might disrupt the Dopamine production. The question is: is porn bad for your game? Can’t see a reason why.

        1. Your buddy Jan DeVries took one look into my eyes, and said saw an over-stressed adrenal system. He probably sees plenty of that in a ‘sex-positive’ society like Holland. I’d like to re-test now, to see the contrast. If it’s causing systemic stress, it’s bound to have an adverse effect on mental state and inner game. Replenishing those fluids can take the body a number of days too. But I agree that it might make a man more aggressive (or desperate) in the pursuit of a wet cunt.

        2. sex-positive society? Almost every western country where religious influence is small have a hookup culture! And despite the image foreigners have of the Dutch, only a really small percentage of us take part in visiting prostitutes and using drugs. I never even touched a joint. Tourists think Holland is synonymous to “Amsterdam”, “coffeeshop” and “red light district”, well, inhabitants shrug. I would take time of my schedule to give a tourist a honest view of this country how it really is any day. Probably shocked to see, it’s just a microscopic version of the USA.

        3. there should be a distinction made between porn and masturbation. masturbation, at least, can contain positive and realistic fantasies. porn actresses meanwhile almost never look as if they are enjoying the matter. thus you train yourself to feel attracted to disinterested girls. that influences your subconscious behavior in that you may act in a way that actually repels women.

        4. Yes, it should be made. There is a TED movie from a scientist about porn. I’ll bet you can find it on YT within 30 minutes. He says that men while watching porn just go trough their library of movies (read: women) and just klick away until they’ll find the most satisfying, probably the most beautiful one. This ‘quest’ so to say has an impact on certain parts of the brain, the so called Pleasure centre. It may over-stimulate and thus drain this part. I think porn is a good thing to exist, but it is indeed different then masturbation only. And a man always should arrange the real deal. Porn can’t be a replacement for a vagina.

        5. Don’t worry, I’m aware of the subtleties, have seen quite a bit of Holland, and wouldn’t be shocked. But that is an admirably hospitable attitude. There still is a fairly legit reputation that Holland is historically more liberal in their views of sex, without implying you’re all hooker and drug addicts. You have a point though, there’s a lot of world-wide homogeneity now.

    3. Yup, most women go into college with the intention of “seeing how much sex they can get”, not necessarily: having sex.

  10. Watch Porn but don’t jerk off to it, gets you in the mood to seek out women but doesn’t kill your desire.

  11. Nobody says that porn or sex toys or erotic fiction are bad for women, when women indulge in getting themselves off. Seems like a double standard to shame men.

    1. ^^^ This times infinity sir.
      Where was all the feminist criticism of “Fifty Shades of Gray” or heck, any romance novel?

    2. wow good observation. Look how they go on about “50 Shades of Grey”…Every romance novel is about about alpha males having their way with submissive women…

    3. Yeah, but if you think about it, if she’s been tunneling into herself with a mechanical excavation machine, you’re going to be like the last sausage in the tin. It’s a double standard by the mainstream media, of course, but those who are in the know are aware of the danger of feral horn-bitches.

      1. “danger of feral horn-bitches”, my ass.
        The only “danger” is if you have a cock and encounter one of these, that cock better not let you down and you’ll finally know the difference between broads who actually like sex and the sluts that blow you in the bar for a few drinks or a line of coke.

    4. Here, here. Completely agreed.
      There’s a deeper point to be elaborated upon here and i’m going to do it:
      Giving women a free pass is the poster statement for our generation.
      They must never be punished or disciplined for their shitty behaviour and all men must be belittled and shamed at every opportunity.
      Enthusiastically shamed.
      Only in very very rare instances must women ever be shamed and this is just done symbolically to make things appear balanced. In reality, if it could be afforded, every disgusting shaming tactic would be heaped on men and women would never be touched.
      It makes me sick to my stomach because women hate men and men are the ones actively supporting this bullshit by shaming their fellow man.
      In my quiet moments I imagine a world where even where a man is wrong he is still given the benefit of the doubt by other men just as symbolic revenge for the tyranny we suffer from women and their selfish shortsightedness.
      In our matriarchal global market society women must be given the benefit of the doubt at all times and worshipped. Yes, worshipped – lest their fragile egos begin to quake.
      So porn is no different: Bad for men, good for women
      Double standard indeed

    5. Exactly. I made this observation a couple years ago when women were going ape shit for 50 Shades of Grey. The MSM was routinely doing enthusiastic pieces and the daytime talk shows were a platform for women to orgasm in excitement over the book. Female sexual fantasy was publicly unbridled and highly celebrated.
      Yet hours later you could throw on PMSNBC or NPR and hear SJW/Feminists propose legislation banning porn with the typical rhetoric of “how it degrades women and teaches men to treat females as sex objects.”

      1. Feminists make me laugh with their ridiculous logic. As if humans haven’t been objectifying each other without porn for centuries! If they truly wanted to embrace equal rights for all, men could watch porn and not be shamed for their sexual urges. I enjoy porn when my husband is asleep and I don’t want to wake him. I refused to feel guilty about that and men should not be made to feel like they are monsters if they like porn.
        50 Shades of Grey is poorly written schlock for vapid women. The writing is dreadfully formulaic and the characters are poorly developed. I read ten pages of 50 Shades of Stupid and I had to put it down because I was losing IQ points.

    6. Porn is good for women, when women read pornographic books like 50 shades of grey it is widely encouraged and hailed by the media like it wasn’t even porno. Women go and buy sex toys because of the book and it makes the 6’o’clock news. Porn with female directors written and produced by females is seen as positive and portrayed favourably by the media. Only when men display their sexuality is porno bad. When women have men behave in ridiculous ways that only a gay man would behave its all cool. But when Men have woman eat out a dog bowl or eat a butt hole they get all.

    7. Women can’t stand the idea of dudes watching porn because they’re afraid it’ll give dudes the crazy idea that they don’t have to put up with that “missionary position only” bullshit 24/7. I’m surprised feminists haven’t convinced people to change the wife’s wedding vows from “love, honor, cherish and obey” to “bitch, berate, and bang in missionary with lights off and covers on.” I propose that men steal a line from Peter Dinklage of ‘Game of Thrones’ fame before they begin any relationship with a woman: “What do I want from you? I want you to share my tent. I want you to pour my wine, laugh at my jokes, rub my legs when they’re sore after a day’s ride. I want you to take no other man to bed as long as we’re together. And I want you to fuck me like it’s my last night in this world.” See? Ground rules set. If you’re bringing the goods to the table, and your prospective friend-with-benefits, fiancée, etc. isn’t willing to be your private pornstar slut, she can carry her lazy, unambitious ass on somewhere. Ever notice how women always try to get away with only doing the bare minimum in EVERYTHING? Porn is a means of getting women to step their bedroom skills up a notch, and they can’t have that, can they? Remember that chick who was laying on Samuel L. Jackson’s couch on “Jackie Brown?” Just because a chick’s a slut doesn’t mean she’s any damn good at sex. And we’ve got a whole lotta no-talent-having sluts running around here who can drop their panties, moan and put on half-assed performances, but little else.

    8. True man, women’s erotica is cool and makes her a naughty girl but mens porn is violent, degrading, etc.
      example of some overly aggressive feminist bitch trying to shame mens preferences in some bullshit liberal poetry class.

    9. porn, fapping, and all that shit is inherently disgraceful. and what did you get out of all that effort into jerking off?tiredness, lack of motivation to pursue more productive things in your life, even if only temporarily. BE A MAN AND GET REAL SHIT!
      Do shit every fucking minute that adds up to YOUR LEGEND. Don’t get down with that fucked up shit.

    10. Well said.
      I actually just went a week without porn (not intentionally, I was travelling) and I noticed my libido went way down as did my success ratio with women.
      Not only that, porn is fucking awesome (no pun intended) and completely harmless. People who rail against porn are clearly suffering guilt and anxiety and a lack of self-confidence. This is obvious because they think they will get erectile dysfunction or lose the will to talk to girls. Bollocks. You are scared. Admit that, stop being a pussy and then go get some pussy.
      I view porn, shag bitches and then my cock rages on!
      Fuck you if you don’t agree.

    11. because somewhere along the line society decided girls don’t masturbate while ignoring the large number of female porn stars.

    1. Compared to her personality and intelligence, her looks are Heidi Fucking Klum.

  13. Porn also serves as a practical ersatz good of sorts when it comes to dealing with modern, empowered, independent “I don’t need no man” women.
    Sure it isn’t the same thing, but if you need to bust a nut and you don’t want to worry about the problems associated with pregnancy, STDs, false rape allegations and all the crap that comes with that, fap away.

  14. I feel that the Left gives very little except token opposition to porn and fapping. After reading Jack Donovan’s “Way of Men” I’ve begun to think that the establishment really does want men watching porn as it keeps them from causing trouble for the state. It is kind of like the games were to the Romans. It is a way of keeping the plebs quiet.

  15. Porn, frankly, may be a material necessity for some men. The way things are legally,picking up girls openly on the streets & offices of America will be a crime.It already is in most colleges. A lot of the “NoFap” guys came up in a day where dating women wasnt legally risky. It is now-and if youre reading this from a major college, jerking off might mean the difference between finishing your degree and being “Innmate #4245” for sexual harassment.

  16. “The reason feminists complain about porn is because, in their view, it objectifies women.”
    Well, the thing is, women ARE sex objects.
    Look throughout the entire history of art, and what is the ultimate object of beauty? Naked young women.

  17. I have had to use porn to convince and teach girls how to deepthroat while still breathing through their nose. Even though I don’t know how, after watching another female accomplish this, the girls seemed to want to be able to achieve this act as well. Has anyone else used porn to
    to break a girls preconceived sexual notions?
    Best,
    CapitalXD

  21. “…psychiatrist Norman Doidge, author of The Brain That Changes Itself, noting that fans suffer “increasing difficulty in being turned on by their actual sexual partners, though they still consider them attractive…”
    Well duh. As women get older (and usually fatter), they get uglier. As women get uglier (and fatter!), men have a harder time being turned on by them. Men who are locked in monogamous relationships with landwhales but are too pussy whipped or moral to cheat turn to the hot young things in porn. The more landwhalish, the more porn surfing. Porn is not the cause of the symptom (lack of interest in old boring ugly harpy wife), porn is the cure for lack of desirable options.

  22. Maybe porn had some benefit back when it was scarce (VHS tapes). However, many men have come to rely upon it as their main means of sexual release which ultimately causes pain and deep sexual frustration.
    Great author, but I disagree with this article in the context of an extreme over proliferation of internet pornography which has bastardized the sex drives of millions of men.
    I see it as a problem for men as a whole and has a net negative effect on all of society.

    1. “I see it as a problem for men as a whole and has a net negative effect on all of society.”
      You have a point, but let’s look at the current state of affairs today: the majority of contemporary females don’t take care of themselves and have shitty attitudes. So what is worse? staying at home and viewing a super hottie on one’s computer, or going to the local bar and having the privlege of “gaming” some blue-haired fattie with a snotty demeanor?

      1. There are a lot of unattractive women (blue-haired fatties) with shitty attitudes. However, there are lots of attractive (HB7-9) girls with both shitty and non shitty attitudes that ARE getting gamed and fucking a guy(s).
        I understand your frustration, but what you said is a cop out to avoid self-improvement. Pornography is a kryptonite to self improvement among low-mid SMV men.
        Some men can watch it and it is a complement to a pre-existing and active sex life with attractive women. For other men (I’d say the vast majority of men), it is a crutch which is one of the biggest road blocks to self improvement.
        I’d recommend that any man serious about legitimate self-improvement completely abstain from pornography. The sometimes legitimate rationalizations that porn can actually help game are for men who are already ACTIVE and SUCCESSFUL in THE GAME with actual NOTCHES to BACK IT UP.
        I’d say that as unofficial policy, porn-watching not be endorsed within the manosphere.

        1. ” However, there are lots of attractive (HB7-9) girls with both shitty and non shitty attitudes that ARE getting gamed and fucking a guy(s).”
          Good point because I think that watching porn is not healthy but it is the answer for many men given the circumstance. And I would suspect that more men in Toronto for example are staying home and watching porn, whereas there may be better cities to be where one might find a halfway decent female in the sea of pig shit.
          But I think your point about personal growth is well taken. Men need to interact with other women (in real life not virtual or even social media) to grow, but man, what a horrible time for a man to be hetero and masculine.

        2. There is no circumstance in which self-improvement is to be avoided or delayed and no idealized state in which a man must be in before he begins self-improvement. I firmly believe that the vast majority of men are not in the class that can simultaneously watch-porn on a regular basis and self-improve with regards to women.
          I’ll end with this quote:
          “Don’t wish it was easier wish you were better. Don’t wish for less problems wish for more skills. Don’t wish for less challenge wish for more wisdom”
          -Jim Rohn

    2. I agree- it was taboo AND scarce. Now, you have a bottomless pit of smut available on your phone 24/7. Watching porn has tragically become normalized- a video circulated here in nyc of a guy just watching porn- no headphones either- on a crowded subway platform.
      People have no shame anymore.

  24. I’ve seen signs that porn is so over the top that people who are addicted to it end up having to go into freak fetish porn, like that chick with dick anime porn (I forget what the name of it is) for example.
    Porn never did it for me anyway.

  25. Most industries are geared towards making money off women. Porn is one of the few making off of men.

  26. I don’t need porn, nope. I don’t need a girlfriend either. Why, you say? . . because I’ve got a realer than life image in my head of the most beautiful sexy bad ho that comes to life whenever I want. She’s so real and lifelike, it’s like having a living 3-D porn movie and best of all, THE PORN STAR HERSELF alive right inside my brain. She’s so great man, anything I want her to do, I just call on her and she comes to life. I can be walking down the street and say ”suck my toes” and ‘POOF’ there she is in my boots hard at work. Or I can say ”bend over this restroom sink” and my wish is her command. You might say she’s my girlfriend. She’s got a name too. It’s ‘JENNY’. Seriously she’s ‘Jenny’. . . yeah right, you say. . ‘jenny’ as in ‘jenny’-TALIA . . (wank-wank) . . Well ok ok I’ll admit there are some drawbacks with her, like . . like getting her to get out of my head and SHUT THE FUCK UP with her psycho jealous shit when I’m trying to fuck some REAL LIFE girl in the real world . . man I’m tellin’ ya . . shits crayzee . eeh . heh .

    1. I envy you. Do you have enough of those drugs for the rest of the class?

  27. 2 and 4 I’ve personally found to be extremely true. A few weeks ago I had just finished a 50-day streak, then deliberately broke it just to discharge some energy. Then, when I went to start the uni year, I was overwhelmed by how many cute girl there were.
    I almost fell back into old beta habits by thinking of them as good girls who enjoyed being around nice guys because they were hot, friendly, and made conversation.
    What snapped me out of that shitty mindset was the realization that those cute, friendly girls who act like they want nice guys were JUST AS filthy, dirty, and sexual as those nasty girls I was watching getting railed on camera.
    Who knows how much of a beta I would have come across if I kept going like that?

  28. I haven’t even read the article to know it’s wrong. The sex you see in porn is masturbatory type. That’s immature, childish sex. To become an accomplished love maker you need to go beyond that.

      1. No my friend, the reward for fucking properly cannot be measured by mere gold…

      2. No, it’s an art not a sport. Most of you see it as sport and there you fail.

        1. I only fail if I don’t blow a wad, but I would love to hear how that is a failure.

        2. This is exactly the immaturity I was talking about. When your only goal is to ejaculate you simply use another body to masturbate yourself, you don’t make love to a woman.
          You might as well use your hand and spare yourself the aggravations.

  29. “But let’s be honest – we now live in a world where well-produced, high-definition hard-core pornography is freely available in a volume that that has never been seen before.” Let’s be honest – we now live in a new world order, where menacing psy-ops strategists make well-produced, high-def hard-core porn freely available, so that gullible schmucks will hand them over control of their own minds.
    “Robin Baker speculates that the reason that men are aroused by porn is that the sight of other guys sexing girls raises their desire to impregnate them with their own sperm, so there is at least the chance that they can genetically replicate. This competitive desire is retained after your porn session has ended and you are in the club, and you can harness it to your advantage.” It could be speculated that the reason men are aroused by porn is that the sight of other guys sexing girls allows the demon of lust to enter their minds, causing the base-level horde demonic compulsion to fuck, fuck, fuck – a corruption of their innate good nature.

    1. This method of mind control has been until now very successful.
      There is no doubt however that a great part of ROK readers and writers are under the same mind control and haven’t freed their mind from it completely. Unfortunately.

  30. Basically he’s admitting he’s in a dry spell , we all have them, frequently, and so instead of acting beta-ish porn keeps him focused on sex . I agree

  32. How many of their members thought this was real? Its pizza- resistant!

  33. Why watch porn when you can just make your own. Here is what you do:
    1. Invest a few hundred dollars in a quality camera, tripod, and lighting. Make some business cards with a fake production company name. Rent a “studio” in some cheap out of the way office space or use a cheap hotel room.
    2. Put an ad on Craigslist or similar site seeking models for a casting call.
    3. Find standard adult model release language on the internet and customize it to your set up.
    4. You will get 3-5 decent responses from your ad within about a day. Most will be at least a 6 and almost always a single mom.
    5. Invite them to your casting call. Don’t hide the fact that it is an adult model job.
    6. Go over the form with them and get them to sign it. Make it know that this is an interview and there will be no compensation. Most won’t care at all. About one in ten will push back. Just tell them this is an interview and there *may* be compensation for shoots going forward. You will get a walk out about one in thirty times.
    7. Tell them the genre is amateur POV and you will be the male talent. Start taping. Do depraved things to them. Tell them anal is required (if you are into that).
    8. Most women will let you treat them like a blow up doll in front of the camera. Go to town. Have fun. Do them two or three times over. Use the excuse that you got a bad take or you need more film. Again, most will be fine with you treating them like a dirty whore.
    9. Kick them out. Tell them that you will call or email them in a few days. But, actually never follow up. Strangely, most will never attempt to contact you on their own and the few that do will never be that persistent.
    10. Repeat steps 1-9. Change up your location occasionally and the wording of your ad.
    There is nothing illegal about this. There is no such charge as rape by deception. You are paying them no money for sex. You are not making any contracts or representations of future employment. If a modern woman wants to give it up based upon a verbal promise of the possibility of future adult work without engaging in any further research that is not your problem. You are just a guy with a camera, a release form, and a room. If she doesn’t take actions such as asking for references, sample work, etc. oh well not your problem.

    1. .” Invest a few hundred dollars” & “Rent a “studio” in some cheap out of the way office space or use a cheap hotel room.+ – total cost about $500-$1000 … or just buy an escort and get it over with.

      1. Think of it as investing in a fixed asset. And once you get the system going to just sort of keeps going. It’s not illegal, costs far less then dating, saves you time, and services your needs.

      1. Yup I have a friend who runs this system and he says it works well. It’s not too much of a time investment. Nothing more then a date commitment. He even told me once he has some women who want to do it just for the experience of being “professionally” taped doing porn.

        2. Yup I highly doubt she will tell the loser Beta that marries her she once got raw dogged on camera by some stranger just so she could “experience” what it might be like to get f-ed like a porn star.

        3. Interesting. I assumed CL would be over-run with this sort of thing already…
          I also want to know how the USA manages to make so much ‘teenie’ stuff.
          EE/Russia I can understand as it’s easy money

    4. That same stuff I see in the porns.
      Like Casting Couch dot com.
      ha! I like that!
      I have recorded several of my own amateur porns, using either my iphone or my old digital camera. I say “old” because who uses digital cameras? Well, I can guess, those who are at least 40 and up?

      1. Assuming neither party is under the influence of anything and is capable of legally consenting, how is any of this sexual assault? It just plain isn’t. Deception does not void consent. If it did pretty much everyone having sex would be guilty of rape. Any sexual assault charge would be a fake one with absolutely no legal merit.
        Again, you are just a guy, with a studio, a consent form, and a camera. You tell her you are making amateur porn, which you are doing, and that there may be work in the future (and you aren’t qualifying it with anything else and yes there might because you might invite her back for another round). If she makes assumptions based upon these circumstances, oh well. She is free to ask questions, do research, ask for references, etc. If she doesn’t do it, not your problem.

        1. You’d be surprised how many sexual assault charges are fake.
          Logic doesn’t stop women from crying rape when they regret their actions.

        2. It will suck when you go through the process, but I say let ’em. If you have a signed consent formed AND a video of the sexual encounter the charges will never stand. It will reveal women for what they really are in the world.

        3. I agree with your precautions. I would just hate to see another man experience the inherent unfairness of the justice system when it comes to rape.

  34. Never really enjoyed looking at a guy bang a girl on screen..unless of course Im watching a home made porn video I made with my woman. On the other hand I can’t say I mind looking at pictures of hot,naked college girls
    The only way abstaining from porn/ fapping works for increasing productivity is when the energy is directly channeled into things that pertain to your mission. Sexual transmutation. Think & Grow Rich has a whole chapter on it.

  35. As I have observed before, porn is less of a problem than is masturbation. While there may be some legitemate deleterious affects, there are also benefits to porn viewing, in addition to those listed above, such as increased athletic performance. It is masturbation, not erotic imagery, that saps one’s motivation, confidence and sociability. So, take your hand out of your pants and stop hating on porn so much, already.

  36. The only benefits (for most) of no-fap is more testosterone for weight gains and more energy in general. For those of us who actually felt compelled to masturbate then quitting gives one discipline that becomes the foundation of an inner law. To build great strength, one must feel great pain. No-fap is a battle of willpower.

  37. Taking #2 to the extreme can make you become machinelike and essentially an object yourself. Turning game and courtship into an assembly-line process takes away a bit of the fun of the chase

  38. or . . . make your own homemade smartphone porn with your wife or girlfriend, and you can feel good about enjoying it, whether alone or together, as much as you like. Moreover, you have total control of the content, so you can make it to your own tastes.

  39. Porn, however, IS a vehicle for SJW-mindset. The rise of anal sex, interracial porn (which means blacks on white women, always), and tattoed girls in porn is pushed by groups knowing it isn’t popular except to a small subset but who are hoping to mainstream it. Social programming and engineering.

  40. Porn is also good if you have other matters to take care of than just sarge women. A big project at work or exams, then it’s totally fine to ease the pressure in the same way one did when he was 13

  42. I’m calling it an April Fool’s article. Troy’s stuff is generally anti-whacking it, and this is obviously for it. The coincidence of the date and the position change is too much for it to be one.

  44. Disclaimer: I’m a fan of porn but I don’t watch it all that much, maybe once or twice a week.
    I like this article and generally agree, except point 3: “It teaches you how to be good at sex.” This is a grey area as, sure, some of the stuff you’ll see will open your mind and is all good to copy. But other stuff is just for the camera e.g. eating pussy. If you eat pussy like you see in most porno’s she’s never going to cum. You need to lock your mouth down on her clit and go to town; in porno’s they constantly need the money shot.
    Another money shot that won’t go down well in real life is to go deep, then pull out and spread her cunt (or asshole) so you can see the black hole you created.
    Another: cumming on her face. Stings her eyes.
    Another: spitting in the cunt. I haven’t met a girl yet who got turned on by this.

  45. I think this is a solid pro-porn argument. In porn, you see young women being railed by 3 guys who could appear to be sweet princesses in the public. Porn helps remove the illusion of women being “good.” They are capable of taking one in the vag, ass, and mouth all simultaneously, that goes for “real life” as well. I watch porn at least 5 days out the week but that does not stop me from approaching women. It, along with masturbation, is a gift that keeps on giving.

  46. I’m a big fan of no fab. I love the energy it gives me but I don’t like how much of a distracted skirt chaser it makes me. After day 5 or 6 of no fabbing. I will go out to game or text girls all day when I really have much more important things to do… If fabbing buys me a couple of days of total disinterest in the opposite sex, that can really boost my productivity when I need to get shit done.

    1. I agree with you Jonathan. Honestly, sometimes I will fap before an important business day just so my brain can stay focused. Also, what I have found is that if I can get past 3-5 days, I can pretty much go indefinitely without. Lol but the next girl who gets a facial can really get hosed down then.

  47. Pretty good article. Speaking for myself, I think too much porn can affect my brain in a bad way though. I remember back in college, when there was no internet, etc., I was hardly ever exposed to porn and I didn’t think of women in the narrow, crude way that I honestly do now. Pretty faces to be hosed down with cum. And I do that for sure. There are some benefits to such a world view, and it’s exciting to some girls to be basically used, but it also of course leads to some pretty huge problems in the long run. That’s only one part of life and there are a lot of other parts, including simply getting old!

  48. I have tested the no porn/no fap theory of self-restraint (they both go hand in hand, pun intended, as I don’t just fap or just watch porn alone). I actually notice that I get less horny the longer I restrain from fap/porn. It’s almost like sex becomes this distant activity. Sure my performance increases when I do have sex after prolonged absence but, overall, I’m less sexual. Watching porn really ignites my desire to go get laid.

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