130 thoughts on “Is Kanye West The Black Mark Minter?”

1. “He’s one of the most talented musicians alive today”…SRSLY?!

   1. Of course he is. He’s very acclaimed and well listened to. Why if you had other metrics of greatness you’d be liable to think that E. L. James (author of 50 shades of gray) is something less than the greatest author of all time.
      

      1. LOL!!! Western civilization is pure comedy gold!

   2. I have never heard his music though many claim it is quite good. How does it compare to Duke Ellington or Fletcher Henderson?

      1. most favourably

   3. Successful, yes. Talented, no. Like most rappers, he mumbles his nursery level rhymes on top of other (actual) artists’ music.

      1. The success stems from his talent. Kanye’s main talent is not rapping, it is producing. He is a very gifted producer and actually a fairly strong songwriter as well.
         I’m not his biggest fan on a personal level, but to say that he is merely successful due to “mubling nursery rhymes” over music that isn’t his is really to just mis-characterize him.

   4. Ya, srsly.
      Very few living musicians are as decorated as Kanye. You don’t have to like his music, but the fact of the matter is that Kanye has a knack for hearing and creating sounds/music that resonate with a wide swath of the globe’s populace and are prone to becoming extremely popular. The list of hits he has produced for himself and for others is quite impressive. He is a very good musician.

      1. Really? What instrument does he play? Who was the vocal coach that taught him proper breathing techniques to sing at his best?
         The very little I know of him tells me:
         He’s not a musician; he’s a sound editor that speaks over the works of others.
         If you want to call him an ‘artist’, well, that’s a tougher thing to debate, so I’ll grant you that.
         But a ‘musician’? No.

         1. Methinks that this speaks volumes to the decrepit tastes of those “wide swaths of populace” and the marketing and video editing capabilities of his team of producers to hype said swill that it does to any perceived talent on the part of that douchebag “artist”.

         2. Musician:
            http://www.merriam-webster.com…
            “a person who writes, sings, or plays music; a composer, conductor, or performer of music;”
            Kanye West writes, sings, and plays music. He also performs it. Therefore, he can be referred to as a “musician”.

         3. “decrepit tastes”
            Decrepit in whose evaluation? Yours?
            So because the music (or perhaps, in this case, the artist) does not appeal to you on a personal level, it has no value and one must possess “decrepit” taste in order to like it?
            There’s plenty of music I can’t stand on a personal level, but whose artists I can concede are truly talented musicians.
            The conclusion you offer above is too subjective to carry any value.

      2. 999.999999% of the music I listen to has never won a Grammy, and I would never have it any other way.

         1. Nobody said that all good music has won popular acclaim. There are plenty of excellent artists who toil in relative obscurity. I listen to plenty of them myself.

         2. No, but are pretty much making the argument that all music that has won popular acclaim is good music.
            Kanye West is a talented musician in the same way that E.L James is a talented writer and McDonald’s is high cuisine.
            But the rest of the article is on point. Dude has the pick of the litter and he shackles himself to an overrated, overpaid, over-the-hill porn star. Doh!

         3. Not all popular music is quality music. I’m not trying to say that.
            What I am trying to say is this: a musician who is capable of
            consistently creating music that not only resonates with a large number of people (read: is prone to be very popular) while simultaneously earning very good reviews for that music is probably, in all likelihood, a pretty good musician.
            Popularity does not correspond perfectly to quality, but we shouldn’t pretend that there is absolutely no relation of any kind between the two.
            Kanye West has consistently created music for himself and for others that:
            A: Is enjoyed globally by large, diverse populations (can resonate with and draw the attention of many people of many kinds on a regular basis)
            B: Gets consistently good reviews from objective, knowledgeable critical sources.
            I conclude on this basis that he is a very good musician.
            I think that’s a fair conclusion to make, but to each their own.

      3. You fumbled the ball on this one, McGinnis. Not only are you asking the regulars of a site devoted to red-pill thought to pretend to give a shit about the overhyped celebrity marriage du jour but you actually refer to Kanye as a “musician” with a straight face.
         Your age is showing.

         1. “You fumbled the ball on this one, McGinnis.”
            Nah bro.
            “you actually refer to Kanye as a “musician” with a straight face.”
            Musician:
            http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/musician
            “a person who writes, sings, or plays music; a composer, conductor, or performer of music;”
            Kanye West writes, sings, and plays music. He also performs it. Ergo, he can be referred to as a “musician”. He could also be called an artist.
            Regardless of the term you choose, the talent is obvious.
            “Your age is showing.”
            If by “age” you mean “objective understanding of the facts at hand” then yes, it is indeed quite apparent.

         2. Nah, bro.
            Clicking the link that you provided gives us this:

            Full Definition of MUSICIAN
            : a composer, conductor, or performer of music; especially : instrumentalist

            Scrolling further down, one finds examples given such as:

            the violinist was a famous and exquisitely talented musician

            And:

            First Known Use of MUSICIAN
            14th century

            Merriam-Webster first put the definition of “musician” on the books back when it actually meant:

            maestro, virtuoso; accompanist, recitalist, soloist, symphonist; accordionist, bassoonist, clarinetist (or clarinettist), cornetist (or cornettist), drummer, fiddler, flautist, flutist, guitarist, harpist, hornist, keyboardist, oboist, organ-grinder, organist, percussionist, pianist

            …And so on. Retrofit the definition of “musician” to include programmers and sequencers of sampled beats and looped passages from the recorded works of other artists all you like — context is of the essence here.
            Put it this way:
            John Coltrane = musician
            Al Di Meola = musician
            Jeff Beck = musician
            Eddie Van Halen = musician
            Neil Peart = musician
            Elvin Jones = musician
            Joni Mitchell = musician
            Frank Zappa = musician
            Jelly Roll Morton = musician
            John McLaughlin = musician
            Phil Lynott = musician
            Tom Waits = musician
            Jaco Pastorius = musician
            The Beatles = musicians
            Billie Holiday, Frank Sinatra = musicians, as in: vocal performers, i.e. vocal interpreters of written melodies
            Kanye West and his ilk = colorful, larger than life pop personalities who chant rhymed doggerel over loops, fragments and rhythms sampled from the work that was written and performed by musicians.

            Regardless of the term you choose, the talent is obvious.

            Apparently, it isn’t.

         3. You’re being anal about lexicon when your REAL problem is with Kanye, and/or what he embodies/represents to you. Technically Kanye is a musician because he makes music. If a guitar can be considered an instrument, then a computer can too.
            I’m with you on Kanye but you’re not really making the correct argument here.

         4. people familiar with rap and hip hop are going to understand what you’re saying, but people who wax lyrical about classical likes its the only music they listen to when in reality all they ever put on is soft rock, country and western and rock/indie stuff are not going to relate. no matter how apt the analogy may be.
            why? because to them kanye will always be a upstart douchey black man and a thug. to have a platform [such as red pill] that caters to all of the right spectrum [classic libertarians who are are unhappy about cultural marxism, all the way up to neo cons, neo nazis and people with white balding angry man syndrome] you’re not going to have consensus on everything.

         5. You’re right.

         6. “Nah, bro.”
            Yah, bro. I’ll co-sign Viceroy on this one. Your hamster is spinning on overdrive.
            For example, you quote the dictionary again:
            “Full Definition of MUSICIAN
            : a composer, conductor, or performer of music; especially : instrumentalist”
            A performer of music is a musician. Musical instruments can also be computerized, so a producer of music (as Kanye is) can also be considered a musician and can also compose music. Furthermore, the definition of “musician” also includes the quote you excluded from my last response:
            “a person who writes, sings, or plays music; a composer, conductor, or performer of music;”
            Kanye also writes music.
            There is no logical way around this. Kanye is a musician.
            If you do not like what he represents, then go ahead and say this. I’m sure we’ll all understand.
            Moving to try and bend reality to fit your desired conclusion (as opposed to the objective facts) is a less effective move.

         7. Your hamster is spinning on overdrive.

            Amusing, isn’t it, how I could easily say the same for you and your breathless Kanye fanboyism?

            If you do not like what he represents, then go ahead and say this.

            Let’s not venture down the road of exaggeration. It’s not that I “don’t like what he represents” — his “music” is certainly a pleasant trifle to grind a girl on the dance floor to, and the snippets of his stuff that I’ve heard at parties or on TV makes for quite dandy background noise. He “represents” nothing to me, other than what I’ve already stated:

            colorful, larger than life pop personalities who chant rhymed doggerel over loops, fragments and rhythms sampled from the work that was written and performed by musicians.

            I’ll make this very plain: I don’t consider what Kanye does to be music. (For that matter, I don’t even consider it to be very good hip-hop.)
            Furthermore, when it comes to anyone who does consider the output of Mr. West to be worthy of the same label that one would give the works of Miles Davis or Arvo Pärt or Howlin’ Wolf or XTC or The Mahavishnu Orchestra, I have to consider those individuals very misguided souls, indeed.
            Kanye West is “music” in the same way that some 36 year-old slampig who’s spent the last 18 years on the cock carousel is as worthy of commitment as a feminine, well-raised 21 year-old. He’s “music” in the same way that Hugo Schwyzer can be considered as much of a man as the men of our fathers’ and grandfathers’ generations, in the same way that some undisciplined BBQ-sauce-and-pickle-juice-drinking behemoth of a woman has as much business strutting down a runway as a 19 year-old Ukranian dime-piece.
            Just another sad sign of the erosion of taste and values, in other words — a further lowering of the cultural bar.
            Did I clear that up for you?

         8. “Amusing, isn’t it, how I could easily say the same for you and your breathless Kanye fanboyism?”
            Breathless fanboyism?
            I’ve been quite explicit in my criticism of Kanye on a personal level, and I’ve noted the many things I dislike about him (arrogance, lack of tact, simpish-tendencies, mild metrosexuality, etc). This entire article was designed as a critique of Kanye’s romantic sense (or lack thereof).
            I’ve only defended him here on a professional level: I think he is a) a musician and b) a good one. There are objective reasons to come to both of those conclusions.
            If you want to call that “breathless fanboyism”, then feel free. I think most would say I come up a bit short in that regard.
            “Just another sad sign of the erosion of taste and values, in other words — a further lowering of the cultural bar.
            Did I clear that up for you?”
            Yes. Your argument is very simple:
            “My musical tastes represent an objective universal standard of good taste and proper values. They represent an objective, universal standard regarding the proper location of this society’s “cultural bar”. My musical tastes also line up directly with objective definitions of what “music” actually is. Those who disagree with my musical tastes are, therefore, misguided souls. If you disagree with my musical tastes, you must necessarily champion the masculinity of Hugo Schwyzer, view 36 year old women in precisely the same sexual lens as one does a 21 year old and see nothing wrong with a 300lb behemoth strutting down a runway alongside a fit teenaged Eastern European model.”
            In reviewing this argument, I simply can’t say I agree.

         9. Stereotype much, bro?

      4. As a pianist myself,I consider people like Yann Tiersen musicians not some talentless,musically-retarded guy mumbling a nonsense-text.You know the music a country produces tells a lot about it and its quite sad that this shit satisfies the needs of the masses…

         1. “As a pianist myself,I consider people like Yann Tiersen musicians not
            some talentless,musically-retarded guy mumbling a nonsense-text.”
            That’s your personal opinion, and you’re welcome to it.
            I’m dealing with the objective reality here, however:
            1. Kanye West is a performer, composer (producer) and writer of music. He is, by strict definition, a musician.
            2. Kanye West has shown the ability to very consistently create music that not only gains widespread popularity, but also draws consistently favorable reviews from respected critical sources. This is clearly a talent; very few people have shown capable of doing what he has done for as long as he has done it. Very few artists receive the kind of widespread praise he has received.
            3. Kanye West is clearly not musically retarded, unless your definition of a “musical retard” is “anyone who creates/enjoys music that I personally do not like”. He obviously understands the finer points of songwriting and musical production and has clearly mastered these things.

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            yann tiersen. you must be a true connaisseur. or
            maybe you’ve just watched to many amelie poulin movies.

         3. I hope your tastes changed in the last 2 years. It pains me to see a supposedly pro masculine site lionize shit like KW, who personally and musically is exhibit A of the cultural decline of a once great nation. As good as Duke Ellington and Fletcher Henderson? That is painful.

      5. Are you really equating popularity to quality right now?

         1. Not all popular music is quality music. I’m not trying to say that.
            What I am trying to say is this: a musician who is capable of creating music that not only resonates with a large number of people (read: is prone to be very popular) while simultaneously earning very good reviews for that music is probably, in all likelihood, a pretty good musician.
            Popularity does not correspond perfectly to quality, but we shouldn’t pretend that there is absolutely no relation between the two.
            Kanye West has consistently created music for himself and for others that:
            A: Is enjoyed globally by large, diverse populations (can resonate with and draw the attention of many people of many kinds on a regular basis)
            B: Gets consistently good reviews from objective, knowledgeable critical sources.
            I conclude on this basis that he is a very good musician.

         2. >What I am trying to say is this: a musician who is capable of creating music that not only resonates with a large number of people (read: is prone to be very popular)
            You got the process reversed. Music resonates with people (read: they listen to it) because it is popular, see: marketing and advertisement. This is how everything works, not just art, and especially in the USA. Most popular things are popular because of first-party sponsored exposure.
            >probably, in all likelihood, a pretty good musician.
            This is one of the things that betrays you don’t listen to Kanye, and the disrespect with which you speak about music intimates you don’t listen to much music either, or at least not with a critical ear trained to differentiate levels of quality. You’re relying on metrics that you wouldn’t need to were the truth otherwise (and the metric that “lots of positive critical reviews = good album” is dubious at best, see previous point about marketing)
            >Gets consistently good reviews from objective, knowledgeable critical sources.
            I bet you couldn’t name 3 “objective, knowledgeable” critics when you wrote this article, and I’d bet that even if you could, your reasons, if any, for considering them so wouldn’t be very good. You can’t just pick a handful from Wikipedia sections; you have to have personal reasons for considering them to be “objective and knowledgeable.” Or do you really trust the wikipedia cartel to decide who is for you?
            I don’t mean to do any of this as dick-measuring merely for the sake of itself, to disparage you or prop up my ego. How much you know about music wouldn’t be a relevant point at all, were what you said true. But I’m trying to make inroads for you to introspect honestly here on how much you really know based on what my questions turn up.
            None of this is commentary on your article as a whole, either. It’s a tangential point I care a lot more about.

2. Kanye West the quintessential simp.
   Kim Kardasian:
   Ho – Check
   Over the Hill – Check
   Bad Track Record – Check
   Messed Up Family – Check
   Check, Check and another CHECK
   Can’t say I’m sorry for him. This dumbass deserves to get ripped off.

   1. I have never heard his so-called music, but I heard he’s from the upper-middle class and his whole rapper personal is a lie. I hope she takes him for all he’s got, since his money was all white peoples’ to begin with.

      1. He never claimed to be gangsta or a killer and is very straight forward about his middle class upbringing. Once his mother died during plastic surgery he has been in pain emotionally and mentally. Kim played on that, I feel sorry for him.

      2. Rap IS upper middle class music. The number one demographic of rap and hip hop customers is middle to upper middle class white males.

         1. There is no hope for the US when white males have become hip-hop slime. Oh well….enjoy the decline.

         2. What do you mean “become”. White males have been consuming hip hop from the moment it went mainstream.

         3. Most grow up and return to rock and roll. When you grow up in a family with rules AND a father, sometimes boys rebel….many white boys rebel into rap thug culture…most eventually grow up and cash in their trust funds.

         4. Not in the US. Men in their 40s and older listen to hip hop. They listen to other music too, but they like hip hop. Besides,
            rock-n-roll is also a low class, juvenile and bogus genre of so called “music”.

         5. I don’t think I want you or anyone who listens to hip hop in my country. There will be big changes for people like you after the reset.

         6. MCC: What demographic of over 40 men are you referring to? Because I can’t think of any of my friends that listen to hip hop, including those that are black. But none of these guys are on the left hand side of the bell curve.

         7. I don’t listen to hip hop or any American music. Its all low class, degraded and nihilistic.
            There will be no reset nor “big change” because Americans are happy in their degradation. That’s reflected in their music and every aspect of their culture from the onset.
            The best people can do is cluster in the positive sub-cultures that dot the country, short of ex-patting. I always advise Americans to learn a few languages and travel the world to learn some art and culture.

         8. White middle and upper middle class. Its not the only music they listen to, but its one of the genres. Hip hop is totally mainstream. Its pop music. So why wouldn’t mainstream pop culture followers listen to it?

   2. “This dumbass deserves to get ripped off.”
      Does the ho deserve to rip him off? No. It’s not just about him. It’s about 100% of women and a big percentage of men(white knights) creating a system to enslave their sons, brothers, and fathers.
      He’s far from the most important example, though. He’s marrying a wealthy woman and it’s blue collar guys (ie deadbeat dads) who get raped the worst at family courts.

   3. My two cents: look at the history of hip-hop and rock. Hip-hop was the brainchild of a white middle class kid (research needed, but its true) while rock was largely created by the likes of Hendrix et al. We just swapped wallets. Now as for Kanye? I couldn’t agree more, and I won’t even dream of making as much money as this skank will just freely absorb for being a “gold-digger”, and if I do make that much it will be because I paid hundreds of peoples paychecks for a decade.

3. From what I heard she got a baby by Busta
   My best friend says she use to fuck with Usher
   I don’t care what none of yall say I still love her

   Sounds about right.

4. Kanye West is a walking contradiction. Kim Kardashian is a bona fide whore. Her only claim to fame was making a porn film with a C-rate rapper/singer. The only way she has been maintaining her fame is by the repulsively narcissistic ‘Keeping up with the Kardashians’, spreading her legs for anything remotely famous that has a 7 digit bank account.
   Kanye West is just another stepping stone to feed her incredible hypergamy. After she sends him to the cleaners(she’ll claim half of his hard earned cash+child support(18 years)+alimony.)
   Then we’ll see Kanye West compulsively replaying his own song ‘Gold Digger’
   His Mom must be turning in her grave.
   I just hope this experience can inspire him to make better music.

   1. He’s going to be singing the blues after this episode ends. Half? she will take more than that. Considering the fact that he is black will only make things worse for him. They’re gonna double rape him in court. Then again I don’t feel sorry for him. Guys like this need an extra heavy handed wake up call from time to time.

      1. Not to mention that the incident will be yet another thing used to make all of us look like idiots before the world.

      2. I always felt Kanye would be irrelevant without Kim at this point. His name is never mentioned without her’s thrown in. His music is garbage. His bitch ass needs her. Seriously tho, doesn’t he look as happy as a runaway slave he “got hisself a white woman!” Pathetic. I walked away from Hip Hop in 2002 because of this clown and his ilk. Is Mos Def EVER gonna finish his comeback album?

         1. yeah can you see Eminem marrying….. Kim…. hahahhaha…… his new material rocks….. staying relevant is hard to do…

   2. His SINGLE MOM is the reason he is such a insecure clown and mangina in the first place. If we want to end feminism, we have to end single motherhood first. Most male feminists were either beaten by their step-daddy or emasculated by their single mothers. The result is an insecure windbag like Kanye

      1. …an uncomfortable truth.

5. Hip hop artist rarely live by the things they say on their albums. If you believed what they say, you’d think Rick Ross is a drug kingpin. He obviously isn’t. Kanye isn’t dumb. We are all aware of the effect that p*ssy can have on the mind of a man.
   On a side note: Kim K. is no worse than Taylor Swift, Miley Cyrus…etc. The only difference is Kim K. has had sex for everyone to see. Most of the other female celebrities are just as ho-ish. A lot of the big name female celebrities are big time sluts. They just don’t tape and release evidence of their whorish behavior.

   1. While he may not be dumb in the literal sense of the word, he is dumb because he lets his emotions override his rational thinking. Considering his songs he is full aware of gold diggers and the like, so he can’t claim ingnorance when shit hits the fan. The fact that he isn’t literally dumb makes this case worse.

   2. If you want some real gangsta music, you’re best off listening to 1993’s Bangin’ on Wax.

6. In his recent interview with Power 106, Kanye distanced himself from his song Gold Digger…

   1. [that animated gif of the black dude facepalming]

   2. Ah, now the pieces fall further into place.

7. Never marry a woman over the age of 24 and never marry her unless you dated since she was 18, or ideally 16 like many countries laws. If you are going to end as a failed relationship and lose your shit you might as well enjoy a woman in her prime.

   1. The Best advice I’ve ever heard in my life. Thanks

   2. Hear, hear.

      1. so you can only date girls that are 18 and virgins and you have to date them for 6 years before marrying them….. good luck pulling that off, unless perhaps you can find a buyawife website and pick up some lost thai village girl….

         1. No one said it was easy, especially with today’s garbage women.

         2. One can always hope for the ideal situation, and aim for the closest realistic thing.

         3. there’s always the Ariel Castro route…

   3. If you do get married and you have any assets to speak of you can set up a foreign trust to shelter your assets from American divorce courts that pander to the American female swine.

   4. looks like my relationship aint gone last then, oh no!

8. All power to Kim, she found the dumb monkey, take advantage of the situation. “fuh real nigga’

9. Speaking of the Kardashians….

10. Yeah, Kanye is an idiot. It seems that in America, celebrities are our “royalty”, and it is expected for celebrities to marry other celebrities. The thing is, instead of a king gaining new lands or military allies, these slut celebrity women gain more notoriety and get a pass to extract more money from another man. I have to give props to George Clooney.
    If I ever become a celebrity, I’m just going to take my money and use my notoriety score to cancel out my Black score in the Orient. After making some business investments, that is.

11. If you’re gonna give up $50 million of your net worth (not to mention ongoing child and spousal support) after the inevitable big D, you could have done hella better than KK.
    That kinda money will buy you nearly 17,000 bangs with a virtually infinite variety of hot, young ass @ $300/hr, 7 days a week, 365 days a year for 45 years! At 33, does KK even have any bangable days left (forget years) after poppin’ out pups? She’s the Queen Mother of narcissistic, gold diggin’ marry my fat ass before I’m 35 American femiblobism.
    For all Kayne’s so-called talent, I don’t think arithmetic is one of them.

    1. look on the brightside…. once he’s been fleeced… perhaps he’ll promote the manosphere…

12. If any ROK readers someday find themselves in the public eye, set a good example for the next generation of men. If you must marry, get a prenup.

13. I’ll go 11 months on the over/under for separation and the beginnings of financial anal prison rape for this pussy whipped chump

14. Here I was thinking Kanye was wifing her up because he had knocked her up. But after seeing that spectacular fail of a (literal) Jumbotron Test…

15. Kanye is a paper alpha as far as am concerned. Though he is professionally successful and artistically phenomenal, he is pure beta. It’s a matter of time before Kim burns him. I get the impression that she does not love him. I think she’s had more than 10 sex partners…how can she develop an emotional bond with any one man after having riding the carousel for so long…and recording one session of her escapades on tape?

    1. I’d wager a LOT more than 10.

       1. 10^3 (cubed)

    2. 10?

    3. I’ve had more than 10, yet still capable of developing an emotional bond.

16. Sadly he’s not the only one. There are plenty of men who say/write something and do the opposite. That includes some of my friends too 🙁

17. I personally cannot wait to see this conceited, insecure narcissist reap the rewards of his own stupidity.
    Kim of course is another idiotic narcissist who is also a talentless drain on society. They both deserve each other.
    It’s just a shame that WE need to hear about it.

18. I read somewhere that Kanye used to draw or cut and paste his photos into the Kardashian’s Christmas card before they were even dating! This episode revealed Kanye’s character as a Beta chump with hardcore One-itis. While I don’t wish the man ill, there’s no way this lasts. KK’s ego is even bigger than her ass and she’ll get bored eventually.

19. The little bit I know about Kim Kardashian (I have never watched her on TV), and the fact that she has an audience, is all I need to know about American women.

20. Kim may or may not be a gold digger…but least she ain’t no broke bitch neither

21. This is the kind of shit I’d expect from pop culture. Successful pop culture icon marries successful pop culture whore. Who knows if there is asset protection or not. Can’t trust what they are saying and who the hell gives a fuck what they are saying. He’s in a relationship with a whore that’s his mistake right there.

22. “When you build large portions of your reputation on one principle,
    however, and then proceed to consciously go against it in an almost
    remarkably direct, indisputably contradictory fashion, you should not
    expect this kind of leniency.”
    Mark Minter isn’t the only one who needs to check his dang head. “Reputations” are built in real life, amongst real live people that you know and care about and who know and care about you.
    They are not built in the comments sections of blogs where anybody can make up any sort of persona, or multiple personas like sock puppets.
    Therefore anyone who took Mark Minter “at his word” on the internet is a fool.

    1. A lesbian “sock puppet” (facilely) white knighting for that Minter jackass. RoK truly has it all.

       1. WTF is a lesbian doing on a men’s forum anyway? Something’s not right…

          1. Personally I think she has been planted here by the feminists as a payback for Fat Shaming Week. Kind of some strange PsyOps warfare. She needs to be banned and quick.

23. You guys should leave Kanye West alone. Clearly Kim she is a beautiful snowflake and needs to be treated like the curvy beauty that she is. Prenups should not come into the equation ever, if you really love a woman.

    1. Real men don’t wait for marriage. Don’t be creepy, start writing huge monthly checks to some random bitch who hates you… today!

24. Russell Peters – “Somebody Gonna Get Hurt, Real Bad!!!!!!!!”

    1. The Indo-Candian comedian?
       Maybe he’ll get hurt. Have you seen his wife?

25. “talented musician,” means sampling a great song by Ray Charles and adding some interesting, witty lyrics? No wonder rap has no staying power outside of devoted circles. I have lived in places, all around the world and see many who love classical music, rock, pop, everything, from decades past, but never hear them once talk about the, “Fat boys”, “Public EnemY”, “Brand Nubian”, “Run DMC”, or “Biggie” whatever…

    1. Strange. Then I wonder why groups like The Roots, Wu Tang Clan, De La Soul, Public Enemy, Brand Nubian, Wyclef Jean & Fugee Allstars and others completely sell out stadiums when they go on tour in France, Germany, The Netherlands, Spain, Croatia, and the rest of Europe. When I lived Paris all I heard about was the influence of Wu Tang Clan on French hip hop groups like IAM, Saian Supa Crew, Supreme NTN and others. You know nothing of which you speak. Fail!

       1. Your point is well taken, but I imagine some people would argue that the capability to sell out large venues and influence cultures has nothing to do with talent.
          Being completely uninterested with corporate hip hop and the like, I can’t comment, but I imagine that is what they would say.

       2. Old-school and underground hip-hop HAD a sizable following in Japan when I was there. I wouldn’t say that too many people know about Marvin Gaye, the Isley Brothers, Al Green, Ray Charles, etc., especially in Japan and East Asia. Eminem is pretty big though.
          I think that it’s Black people that don’t have much staying (or arriving) power globally. We influence (just look at K-pop), but we ourselves are thrown out once they have the inspiration.

26. Shit, this already happened with her last husband: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uLnrIsuorM

27. ….on another note, anyone here traveled to Armenia? What are the chicks like?

    1. Cher.

28. This article is very stupid. Kim Kardashian will have more money than he will. Would you get a prenup with a girl who makes more money than you? Plus she the baddest on the planet at the moment. What woman is more famous that her now?

    1. “This article is very stupid.”
       Oh really?
       “Kim Kardashian will have more money than he will.”
       The estimates that are out online say Kim is worth about $40 million. Kanye is estimated to be worth about $100 million.
       http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/models/kim-kardashian-net-worth/
       http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/richest-rappers/kanye-west-net-worth/
       Those are just estimates, but in any case there really is no justification for the notion that Kim has more money than Kanye. The estimates we do have say he’s at least twice as rich.
       “Plus she the baddest on the planet at the moment.”
       Baddest? As in most attractive? Not even close. Right off the top of my head:
       1. Candace Swanepoel
       2. Miracle Watts
       3. Victoria Justice
       4. Melanie Iglesias
       5. Ashley Sky
       6. Kim’s little sister Kendal
       7. Aryane Steinkopf
       8. Lais Ribeiro
       9. Brittany Dailey
       10. Leila Lopes
       11. Barbara Palvin
       …and that’s just a start. Give me and hour on the internet and I’ll find you hundreds of girls who are “badder” than Kim Kardashian, and many of them are no-names.
       Kim isn’t 23 anymore.
       “What woman is more famous that her now?”
       Who gives a fuck? We’re men, not women – female hypergamy doesn’t impact us. The notoriety of a particular female doesn’t up her sexual value in our eyes. A woman does not get “badder” simply because she’s famous. A woman’s “badness” is determined by her physical appearance first and foremost, and on that metric Kim Kardashian is not the queen of the world.
       If this were not true and it notoriety was a significant factor in determining who the “baddest” females are to men, then rest assured that Oprah, Ellen Degeneres, Queen Elizabeth, Condoleeza Rice and Sonia Sotomayor would be way higher up the sexual market value totem pole than they currently are.

29. Decent article until:

    He’s one of the most talented musicians alive today

    I’m guessing Mr. McGinnis is a bit confused as to what “musician” means.

30. “He has now embarked upon a mission to turn a hoe into a housewife”
    Gee, a ho would be hard enough, but a hoe??? He’s going to need some serious skills for *that* one!
    The bigger mistake, however, is to suggest that Mark has a parallel. Those who are peerless generally don’t.
    ( http://eradica.wordpress.com/2012/08/15/manosphere-on-fire/ ) Kanye succeeded where Kris failed: he got the most narcissistic woman in our culture to think about someone other than herself. Paper alphas don’t cause career/figure focused women to throw caution to the wind for the chance to carry their baby.

31. actually there is talk of a prenup in other gossip columns…. including a $10M cheat clause….. i don’t see why there wouldn’t be a prenup… these two are business minded people…….. and since their networths are actually both surprisingly high for a pair of narcissistic media whores….. i think it would actually run in both their interests…. not least since Kim would be better in an early divorce if Kanye cheated and there were conditions in place….

32. Didn’t she suck some guys cock on same grainy video…who marries a pig like that. She is strictly ass to mouth!

33. Let’s recognize a basic reality. When black men like Kanye sing about gold diggers, they really mean black women. However, they view black women through a different lens than they view white-appearing women, who get the benefit of a “halo effect.” Yet, the striking thing is that there has been countless evidence that white women are just as gold digging as these men imagine black women to be, but that doesn’t stop them from chasing after their kryptonite, the almighty white p-tang. As for Kim’s sluttiness, something tells me that Kanye would not have been interested in marrying a black woman who was as much as a slut.

    1. You’re spot on here. Sad but true.

       1. Yes, that in all likelihood, an attractive to hot and non-promiscuous (sane) black woman would not be as attractive in his eyes as the Kim train wreck.

34. Talented musician! Lulz. Thnx, I needed that. It funny how people equate popularity with quality. There are many other rappers that would rap circles around west’s juvenile rhymes. His metaphors arent even clever.

35. There are rumors and strong indications that Kanye is indeed gay (i.e. obsession with fashion, spending lots of time in Paris without Kim Kartrashian, etc…) so this whole wedding could just be a mutually beneficial agreement (she gets a kid, he gets a beard) that allows them to continue being successful while presenting a socially acceptable front to the public.

36. I’m confused, why is there a video embed of “Hollywood Life”? Anyways.. check this out http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/25/kim-kardashian-kanye-west-prenup_n_4163480.html

    1. Looks like common sense prevailed after all. Good for Kanye.
       The video was just there to give an overview of the proposal and its portrayal in Hollywood.

37. Kanye is the the king of mediocrity. Just like a vast majority of pop rap stars. He sucks a rap. His sounds like he is talking over beats. No flow whatsover. His first Album was okay because he was new and it was a different sound. Every album since has been garbage. He is the protege of another garbage pop MTV rapper who’s success was largely dependent on the deaths of the two greatest rappers of all time. His paper alpha swagger never fooled me once so marrying Brandi’s little brother’s sloppy seconds is no suprise.
    Anyway I recently got to see him in concert, ONLY because the ticket was FREE and it was box suites with free booze so why not go. Let me tell you, his new album Yeezus and subsequent tour show is the biggest piece of trash ever created and not only that but I am pretty sure the man has completely LOST his mind. He had on the most ridiculous costumes and maskes. He also stood at the top of his little arrowhead stage and screamed, literally at the top of his lungs, not even trying to rhyme, “Are you feeling my shit!? Are you feeling my shit!?” This lasted, I believe I counted he said it about 12 times back to back, and it pierced through the speakers as well as my soul.
    But he wasn’t done yet. He then started a marathon of auto-tuned songs, (the fake singing machine shit that makes your voice sound like you can actually sing) He did about 4 songs like this in a row. Then he sat down and talked into the microphone about how he is “new wave” and that people don’t understand him. No Kanye, The Faint is new wave and they are awesome. You are a confused rapper trying too hard to make a new sound and you suck.
    But he still wasn’t done. He then proceeded to run back and forth screaming “I’m not just a celebrity! I’m not just a fucking celebrity! and also “I’m not fucking Michael Jackson! I’m not fucking Michael Jackson!” There was not even music playing he was just screaming senselessly. At this point I stood up grabbed my date by the hand and said “We are leaving right now!”
    I thought I was going to kill myself until I got to my car and put on Nas’s Life is Good album turned to the Loco-Motive track and realized there are still one or two good rappers left alive in the world.

38. >Kanye West. He’s one of the most talented musicians alive today, with 6 Grammies and 5 platinum solo albums.
    Really?

39. Ah yes kanye west. One supremely arrogant talented motherfucker who’s weakness is women. i think its symbolised by his lyrics from runaway [specifically toast for the douchebags]
    She find pictures in my email
    I sent this bitch a picture of my, dick
    I don’t know what it is with females
    But I’m not too good with that, shit
    See, I could have me a good girl
    And still be addicted to them hoodrats
    And I just blame everything on you
    At least you know that’s what I’m good at.
    dude is a little bitch when it comes to women. but musically, an innovator. to have someone piss off so many people so many times and come back each time with a better album, a new form of music, critically acclaimed and popular AND get people to buy his shit, despite his ego? shit there’s no way to not call that cool

40. “He ‘loves Kim too much’ to even think about asking his beautiful bride-to-be to sign a prenup!”
    And she loves Kanye too little to even offer her groom-to-be a prenup.

41. a lot of rap clip, like of wiz khalifa, sounds like a commercial pop video nowadays. When i listen to the Notorious Big, all about the flow and pure talent (no politics, or Hollywood whoring involved), i see there is simply no match today.

    1. Blame the South.

42. The song “Gold Digger” is not necessarily a reflection of Kanyes personal values. It is a song. Its not a personal statement that we should view as truth. Rappers are “artists”, they are fictitious characters.
    Drake raps about “starting from the bottom” but he actually came from the upper middle class. Does this make him a hypocrite? No. He is a fictitious character.
    Rappers make songs about killing people when in real life they would run away. Hypocritical? No. It’s art. Dark art sometimes but still art.
    DON’T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU HEAR IN RAP SONGS

43. I don’t see the problem addressed in the article.
    kanye west has a full lot of money. kim kardashian has a whole way of
    money too. it’s not like any of them could get “ripped off”
    really – in contrary to most guys on this website.

44. If he’s worth 100 mil now, he’ll be worth 50 mil when she’s done with him… if that.

45. http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/kanye-west-wears-confederate-flag-jacket-to-barneys-amid-controversy-2013511

46. Quote from Kanye song “Niggas in Paris”. Wonder if this is how it actually went down??
    She said ‘Ye can we get married at the mall? I said: Look you need to crawl fore ya ball. Come n meet me in the baffroom stalll. And show me why you deserve to have it allll.

47. This article is so incorrect.
    Kim K is one of the most, if not THE most powerful woman is western culture. In terms of “gold-digging” (finding a financial successful lover and mooching off of a male’s financial success), she doesn’t quite fit the bill. She racks up 15 mill a year on her own and combined with Kanye’s fame, she’ll bank even more for the both of them.
    In terms of finding a woman, ‘Ye made a smart business and financial decision. Kim is here to stay guys, and she’ll be taking that bankroll of hers.

48. This article is so incorrect.
    Kim K is one of the most, if not THE most powerful woman is western culture. In terms of “gold-digging” (finding a financial successful lover and mooching off of a male’s financial success), she doesn’t quite fit the bill. She racks up 15 mill a year on her own and combined with Kanye’s fame, she’ll bank even more for the both of them.
    In terms of finding a woman, ‘Ye made a smart business and financial decision. Kim is here to stay guys, and she’ll be taking that bankroll of hers.

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