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Are White Women A Serious Threat To Black Men?

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Much has been said about the dangers black men face in our modern society. The Trayvon Martin incident helped to amplify this focus, but other dangers have been highlighted as well. The modern criminal justice system is a threat. Modern media (an alleged source of many negative stereotypes and portrayals) is often pointed out as a threat. And, perhaps most notably, other black men are a threat.

These factors and the dangers they pose to black men are well documented, but one other historical threat comes to mind that I feel doesn’t get enough attention: the white woman. Though this threat may not match up to the others above, a bit of thought soon makes it clear that there is real cause for concern here. We live in a society that has not looked kindly on relationships involving white women and black men, and has imposed serious consequences on the male participants in said unions.

Consider the following examples:

1. Black Wall Street

By 1920, the Greenwood neighborhood of northern Tulsa, Oklahoma had long been at the center of a thriving community. The area was home to so many prominent black businessmen, lawyers, doctors, and other affluent professionals that it came to be known as “Black Wall Street”. Dr. A.C. Jackson, a man whose surgical capabilities impressed even the founders of the Mayo clinic, was a resident of this neighborhood. It was a success story in a segregated world.

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Then, in 1921, it all went to hell. Three days of race riots beginning on May 31st, 1921 left 10,000 blacks homeless, over 1,200 residences destroyed via fire, and up to 300 blacks dead. And what became of the talented Dr. Leonard? He was shot to death as he attempted to leave his home during the riot.

What caused all of this?

A teenaged black shoe-shiner entered an elevator operated by a white girl. According to most accounts, he tripped and latched onto the arm of the girl as he fell. She screamed, and he left as the elevator arrived at the first floor. A white clerk on that floor heard the scream and reported the incident as an attempted assault. The girl spoke to police and a quick investigation took place. She declined to press any charges and the police themselves are believed to have concluded no crime had been committed.

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It didn’t matter. By May 31st, a lynch mob had already been assembled, filled with men looking to “defend the honor” of the girl in question. The single scream of a white girl sent hundreds of blacks to their deaths and leveled one of the few black economic success stories in the Jim Crow era.

2. Rosewood Massacre

The town of Rosewood, Florida was quiet and predominantly black during the 1920s. Despite the ravages of segregation and Jim Crow, the blacks of Rosewood had managed to find some economic success and create a degree of self-sufficiency while maintaining amicable relations with predominantly white towns nearby like Sumner.

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What put an end to all of that? In January, 1923, a white woman in Sumner heard a scream come from her neighbor’s home, grabbed her revolver and went over there. The neighbor claimed that she had been beaten, robbed and possibly raped by a black man, but her claims were entirely unsubstantiated. The black man she claimed was in her house at the time her neighbor arrived with the revolver was never found and her story was contradicted by witness testimony claiming her own husband had been responsible for the beating and had been seen leaving the home.

Nevertheless, a lynch mob was soon assembled. By the time the riot was over, two whites and an estimated 26 blacks were dead, and many more injured. The town of Rosewood was burned almost entirely to the ground and abandoned—those black residents who could escape did not return.

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A mere accusation sourced by a white woman proved enough to destroy a town and end dozens of lives.

3. Emmett Till

Emmett Till was a Chicago kid visiting relatives in Mississippi during the summer of 1955. One day, local boys dared Till (who claimed to have had white friends and even a white girlfriend in Chicago) to speak to Carolyn Bryant, a 21 year old who ran a town market along with her 24 year old husband. Till acted on the bet. It is unsure exactly what happened in the store. Some claim that Till whistled at Bryant and may have grabbed her hand in order to ask for a date before saying “Bye, baby” as he left. Bryant herself asserted that he used “unprintable words” and grabbed her waist as he asked for a date.

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The story soon spread across town. Bryant’s husband and half brother-in-law decided to defend her honor by kidnapping the 14-year-old from his home in the dead of night and murdering him. They got away with it.

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The mere alleged inconvenience of a white woman proved important enough to justify ending a child’s life.

Granted, many of these incidents took place quite some time ago, but has the cultural imperative that animated them—one dedicated to throwing black men under the bus on a whim in order to protect white female honor—disappeared?

Consider the following:

1. Darrell Williams

In 2010, Oklahoma State basketball player Darrell Williams (a promising talent who had left the team in several statistical categories in 2009) was accused of groping two white women and reaching inside their pants without their consent. There was absolutely no physical evidence of the accusations leveled at Williams by these women. Williams also passed two lie detector tests.

It didn’t matter—Williams was convicted in July, 2012. His sentence was suspended a few months later, but he will still have a felony conviction on his record and will need to register as a sex offender. His life is pretty much over, and it only took the mere accusation (absent any evidence backing it up) on the part of a white woman to make that happen.

2. Marcus Dixon

In February of 2003, Marcus Dixon was a promising student-athlete with a 3.96 GPA and a full football scholarship to Vanderbilt University. He was arrested for allegedly raping a 15-year-old student, and sentenced to 10 years in prison due in large part to Georgia’s ten archaic statutory rape laws. He’d spend 15 months in prison before being released following a Georgia Supreme Court decision in his favor.

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But why did he have to go through all of that in the first place? Kristie Brown’s father was an open racialist and did not take kindly to the fact that his daughter had slept with a black man. She was well aware of this:

On Feb. 6, 2003, Dixon accepted a full scholarship to Vanderbilt University, historically the SEC’s weakest football program and the strongest academic school. He could have gone to Georgia, but thought a Vanderbilt degree would carry him further. Four days later, after basketball practice, he had sex with Kristie Brown, a white 15-year-old virgin, in a classroom trailer behind Pepperell High School.

“It was consensual sex,” said Dixon, who was 18. “When we came in there, it was set up like we was going to have sex. She unbuckled her own pants.

“At the end, the only thing she told me was like, ‘My dad cannot find out about us having sex.’ Because in my town, black people having sex with white girls is not something you do. She said, ‘My dad cannot find out about us having sex, because he’ll kill us both.’”

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He found out, and that was enough to nearly end Dixon’s life. Dixon’s story has a happy ending, at least: he was released after 15 months, got a scholarship to a smaller university, managed to get a shot at the NFL in 2008 and is currently a member of a playoff-bound Kansas City Chiefs squad. But that doesn’t erase the injustice done to him as a teen.

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3. Jameis Winston

If you’re not familiar with this particular case, you can get acquainted with it via my previous article.

All of these examples illustrate a similar theme: the power white American women have to bring down black men, a power derived almost entirely from the emphasis that this society puts on their protection and the lengths said society is willing to go to enforce that imperative.

White females are the most privileged demographic in American society. This fact is substantiated by society’s tendency to do more for white women than it does for others: white females who go missing are given substantially more attention than others, and those accused of harming white women receive much harsher sentences than they otherwise would and are more likely to face serious convictions. This society prioritizes the protection of white women over that of everyone else.

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At the same time, black men have historically been portrayed as the greatest threat to white women that exists in this society. Depictions of the unrestrained, “animalistic” negro ravaging white womanhood (something he apparently couldn’t help and was naturally inclined to do) have been used to justify all manner of things in the USA, from run-of-the-mill lynchings to slavery to entire socio-legal systems of discrimination. Race relations in this country have largely been defined by this fear. Black men must keep these historical precedents in mind and understand the very credible threat that white women pose to them if not approached and dealt with carefully.

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This is a society with a deep, longstanding prejudice toward the notion of black male sexuality as an inherent threat to the white female and a long history of coming down hard on black men in order to guard against that alleged threat. It is also a society dedicated to serving the whims of white women and protecting them at all costs and above all others. When a white woman accuses a black male of committing some form of sexual misconduct against her, society will take her claims more seriously than they would accusations by women of other ethnicities against most other men, thus placing much more pressure on the accused. Society has her back, and she knows this.

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These societal prejudices accompany any white American woman associated with a black man. They are the source of her power and lurk perpetually in the background and can be called upon by her at any time for use against him, often to devastating effect. Do not underestimate that threat.

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873 thoughts on “Are White Women A Serious Threat To Black Men?”

  1. I agree with the above.
    Also, I am white, and I dated a black woman several years ago. The only grief I ever got about it was from liberal white women I worked with who got really passive-aggressive, and one was outright racist.

    1. So what was your defect that you could only get fugly ne—-groe females? The least desirable and the dregs of the world’s women.

      1. “The least desirable and the dregs of the world’s women.”
        That’s actually only true of African-AMERICAN women.
        Afro/Caribbean women can uniquely awesome in their own way.
        That is how African women are supposed to look. It’s simply because they are obese that they are the ugliest women on the planet.
        http://www.modelsandmoguls.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/jamaican-model-oreintha-russell.jpg
        http://static.unionmodels.com/images/polaroid/3268.jpg
        http://www.modelwire.com/webCS/frc/IMG/e6b0576f-063d-431c-9e48-1d041e8a0551/7B804F9B-D3A5-46C5-A08D-E9A66A45BEC5_LG.JPG

        1. Those are all models and are like the top .00000000001% of ne—-groe females. And they are wearing hairhats from dead white femal corpses.

        2. The first one is not wearing a hair hat (Sotamayor fan, are ya?) but has a very short clipped afro.
          The other two photos it looks like her own hair but relaxed/straightened.
          If you knew anything about hair hats and weaves at all, you would know they are not made of white female hair but of hair cut from living women (and some men) and imported from India (considered amongst the healthiest and most untouched hair in the world).
          The thickest hair (per strand) in the world comes from East Asians.

        4. I know lots of girls that look like models but are not. Black girls are just really pretty. White chicks wear weaves and fake tans and implants and lip injections just to look like us.

        9. Blondes have the most follicles on their heads. The reason that ne—groes have nappy hair that grows like a Chia Pet is that’s it’s like a primitive form of keeping the sun’s heat off their heads.Humans invent things to modify their environment, like houses and air conditioners, while dumb subhumans just grow crap the way animals do to get some simple protection.If the white man didn’t show them how to use scissors this is what their hair would look like and how it looked before the Humans sheared it.
          http://tinyurl.com/l5rs9ag

      2. What’s your defect that compels you to go after anyone who does not meet your goal of “race purity”? Envy? Fetish?
        You’ve never commented on anything but race. Why so mad? Did a bad black man fuck ya ma? Did she like it?

        1. Buzz off boy. You just can’t handle the truth. And btw, I never talk about any of this stuff and blacks and their stupid habits and brainless bling lifestyles don’t even interest me at all.These people don’t even exist in my world.
          My mother is like 100 so if some ne—groe gave her the old in-out in-out then he’s just a typical ne–groe loser who would put his puny cock into anything lol

        2. So your mother is “like” 100 and you are “like” 75.
          What is a 75-year-old “race realist” doing on a manosphere site, pops? Did you come for that old-timey haterade?
          You and people like you are dying out. Bye.

        9. This subject goes far beyond racial purity. Ni66ers are not human beings, and interspecies breeding with the ni66er chimps is destroying the human gene pool.

        10. We still outnumber niggerapes like you 7 or 8 to 1, not to mention the fact that in modern warfare combat one White man is worth more than a thousand ni66ers.
          Never forget your place, Toby.

        11. Many other animals besides ni66ers have large penises, bulls, horses, etc. do you actually think we are willing to give up our humanity to be a ni66er or other animal just for that?

        14. We of the superior and original HUMAN race live to be 800 years old so I’m actually younger than you in relative terms and will outlive you by many centuries. You may have read about us in ancient books and even in Genesis we are mentioned. Our genetic code was damaged a bit when our females were raped by savage ne—-groe apemen after we left the garden compound but little by little through selective breeding we have eliminated these inferior mutant genes. And to prevent it from ever happening again our new viruses which we have all been inoculated against will wipe the mutants from our earth. Bye bye Blackbirds.

        15. “race realist”?
          Not at all. We love all species except mutants who attempt to contaminate the human race.We don’t have any animosity against the ne–groe apemen but since these once white men were damaged by solar radiation thousands of years ago and turned black and stupid we had to quarantine them to the west coast of Africa to prevent further damage to Humans.

        16. A white girl that agrees and nod with all your racist views, will turn around on a dime and get fucked like this by a black cock. Only a fool expect solidarity(let alone racial solidarity) from women. History taught us this: country A invades country B…kills all the men…then fuck all the women…the women simply adjust and live with their male conquerors.
          http://24.media.tumblr.com/a8139de0172bcd9b9a0b6cd736dc41f2/tumblr_mwvc73GQRD1slpcjko1_500.gif

        17. You know, I have practically unlimited assets. I think I’ll get a PI to track down the white females in those bestiality pics to see who they are and then show these pics to her father and everyone she knew who lived in her area.
          And perhaps I’ll publish your real name for showing these disgusting bestiality pics and tell your Ho mother too. If you have a job I’ll find out where it is and show your boss how you spend your time, and report you to the cops as a pervert. Would you like that son? Perhaps they’ll even give you the plunger treatment :o)

        20. Apemen actually have smaller koks than white humans. A German anthropologist showed this in Africa in the 1800’s and more recently Masters &Johnson did

        28. you are saying that your mom has fake boobs?
          and that your father has a fake penis?
          lol. that explains a lot.

        30. I think you should present non-Photoshopped images if you’re trying to get people riled up. If you notice, that semen is really blurry and the lighting on the dick is way too off. That’s why a lot of these pics have filters applied to them.

        34. Why does someone feel the need to photoshop semen and a faceless dick on these models? They’re ruining a great picture.

        35. Again, this is another poor photoshop. Notice how the background is completely black, yet there’s some white space between the mans legs? Again I ask, why make these images if it wasn’t an intended shoot to begin with?

        42. ‘White’ is a recessive trait. Which technically, makes white people black derivatives. The bible told this story and science confirms it. So much for that whole superior race thing. You should totally write a science-fiction novel though.

  2. I’m Black. I teach english in Baku, Azerbajian. Life is better as an ex-pat. I never understood those Black WW2 soldiers who came back to the Jim Crow south after seeing Europe and Asia. Dumbasses! After I learned that James Baldwin (France, Turkey) and Richard Wright (Spain, Morocco) wrote most of thier novels while living overseas, I was hellbent on leaving America. After an unecessary and unfortunate detour called “law school” (yes, I’m an idiot) I wised up and got the hell out. I’m not coming back! Peace!

    2. Good for you dude, and I see those women are Kim Kardashian fine as well. Get you a nice one!

        2. Best of luck. I have lived in Japan for almost 5 years, China for a year and I am now in Bangkok (still a newbie here).
          I gotta say I liked China the best, particularly for the women. I used to have a huge Japanese fetish, but I found in China far greater access to the upper eschalon, and I found less cultural barriers between them than I did with Japanese. I have very little urge to go back to Japan but I plan on getting back to China as soon as business permits. Bangkok on a side note I am not all that impressed with for the quality of girls, but I am learning the ropes.
          On a side note, from my experience and what black guys have told me here this is how Asia breaks down for black americans as I see it.
          Korea: racist as hell and hard. I know some black dudes in Toronto that exclusively hunt Korean women and man they go through hoops.
          China: I think very racist too and hard.Difference though for me Chiense are not racist against whites but are against blacks hence my positive experience. Also I was in Guangzhou which has a huge west African population (look up Guangzhou Africaville or chocolatetown as the Chinese call it)and they do not help the cause of creating a positive image of blacks. So it might be a bit better in other cities.
          Japan: they think Japanese are the best and are racist but not horribly and many open minded Japaense exist. I think Japanese put themselves above foreigners but will treat a black, white or asian American essentially equal. I was talking to a black American who works as a diplomat in Asia and he said Japan was the second best place for him except for….
          Philippines: These girls don’t discriminate. If you are looking for loving I have heard this is the absolute best place for a black dude in asia. Now this one comes second hand but seemed to be on good authority.
          Good luck in asia and go where you want. Maybe see you in China sometime.

        4. That’s about what I’ve heard too. Japan, China, and Taiwan are the countries that I’m interested in. I’m having more luck with Chinese girls online (and a few that visit the States) than I did in Japan, but that might be chalked up to the muscle mass I’ve gained since I was in the Kuni.
          I have a few asking me to stay with them in China. Not getting my hopes up, but things might go somewhat better than anticipated.

    4. Paper, you should consider writing a piece for RoK on what it’s like there in Baku. I for one am very interested. I’ve only ever seen it in a James Bond movie, sadly.

    5. Sir, I can agree with that statement completely. I have lived overseas (Italy, Turkey, Kuwait, Dubai, France, Germany) and plan on going back to live in the next two years.

    6. After reading the comments on this post, it’s become clear to me that the manosphere and men’s rights are not a black man’s fight.
      When feminism was primarily black on black violence, white men did not give a shit. Not much has changed… read the comments.
      Now, feminism is white on white violence… it’s no longer our fight.
      Charles Murray, author of ‘Coming Apart: The State of White America’, made that much clear in his well-received book.
      So buy some popcorn and a MGTOW sombrero, then kick back and watch it burn. Feminism, the badass antidote to “white male privilege.” You go gurlz.
      Here’s Murray explaining why feminism is now a problem because the victims are increasingly, like shock/horror/OMG, white:

      1. The primary threat to ni66ers is themselves, obvious to everyone but themselves, in the form of their own subhumanity and completely lack of evolution.

        1. Justin the Internet Warrior strikes again.
          A white knight captain in the Save-a-Ho wars, he sits astride his virtual steed. With his trusty keyboard at the ready and pockets filled with poosy chips, he saves them white chicks far and wide for naught but virtual poosy points.
          Surely, he’s earned enough virtual chips to win the realtime pussy all white knights crave.
          Someone, anyone, please cash Justin’s virtual punanny points before his blueballs break his horse’s back. Amen.

        2. So eRacist. So much bravery.
          Does the thought of a black man with a white woman eat you up that much? I mean really, have you stopped to consider that maybe your problems in life don’t stem from other people and that they come from *you*?
          100% of racists (yes, you are a racist) feel persecuted because, despite holding the top position at the social pecking order, you cant seem to get where you feel you deserve to be. Rather than saying “maybe i need to work harder and be better” you just say “its the blacks holdin me down!”
          Racism is, at its core, a failure to accept responsibility for oneself.

      2. Absolutely, Jack Galt, the delicious ecstacy of SCHADENFREUD is quite real no doubt. But to be fair, there are a lot of “shut-in” dudes on the autism range commenting here, and a few have mental issues (Justin_ , Pablo, etc.).

      3. “After reading the comments on this post, it’s become clear to me that
        the manosphere and men’s rights are not a black man’s fight.
        When feminism was primarily black on black violence, white men did not give a shit. Not much has changed… read the comments.
        Now, feminism is white on white violence… it’s no longer our fight.”
        – Black and white are going the way of the do-do bird. Around 30% of American babies born today are neither “black” nor “white” but bi-racial. By 2050 it will be much more.
        One Love!
        One Heart!
        Let’s get together and feel all right.
        Hear the children cryin’
        (One Love! );
        Hear the children cryin’
        (One Heart! ),
        Sayin’: give thanks and praise
        To the Lord and I will feel all right;
        Sayin’: let’s get together
        And feel all right.
        Wo wo-wo wo-wo!
        Let them all pass all their dirty
        Remarks (One Love! );
        There is one question
        I’d really love to ask (One Heart! ):
        Is there a place for the hopeless sinner,
        Who has hurt all mankind just
        To save his own beliefs?
        One Love! What about the one heart?
        One Heart!
        What about?
        Let’s get together and feel all right
        As it was in the beginning
        (One Love! );
        So shall it be in the end
        (One Heart! ),
        All right!
        Give thanks and praise to the Lord
        And I will feel all right;
        Let’s get together
        And feel all right.
        One more thing!
        Let’s get together to fight
        This Holy Armagiddyon (One Love! ),
        So when the Man comes there will be no,
        No doom (One Song! ).
        Have pity on those whose
        Chances grows t’inner;
        There ain’t no hiding place
        From the Father of Creation.
        Sayin’: One Love!
        What about the One Heart?
        (One Heart! )
        What about the?
        Let’s get together and feel all right.
        I’m pleadin’ to mankind!
        (One Love! );
        Oh, Lord!
        (One Heart)
        Wo-ooh!
        Give thanks and praise to the Lord
        And I will feel all right;
        Let’s get together and feel all right.
        Give thanks and praise to the Lord
        And I will feel all right;
        Let’s get together and feel all right.

        1. You wrote: “Around 30% of American babies born today are neither “black” nor “white” but bi-racial. By 2050 it will be much more.”
          That’s why the nutters in the comments are going crazy: They will have to live in a world with less accidental privilege; an America in which the personal matters more than La Raza. The topmost question becomes: “What have you achieved?” not “What have ‘your people’ achieved?”
          Frightening… situation for the intolerant.

        2. Most black/white biracial kids are adorably cute and grow up to be very attractive adults. The best features of both razas gets tweaked and enhanced while the worst features get downplayed. They tend to have beautiful golden hued skin that does not show wrinkles and blemishes like white skin does, full, sensuous lips, larger eyes than the average white person, and a more streamlined nose than many African Americans. And full bodied curly hair for that much coveted “ocean kissed day at the beach look”.
          I’ve seen some plainer “just ok” looking biracials, but I’ve yet to see any ugly ones. Most are above average looking and many are stunningly striking.
          Bring on the eye candy!

        3. You must be joking. Every Mulatto person I have ever seen looks ugly as fuck – like some freak of fucking nature.

        4. How could anyone take pride in being a mutt?
          I think that is why liberals and blacks take pride in becoming as big of mutts as possible… Deep down…. They hate themselves.

        5. Yes, of course. I’m sure this fugly mulatta hasn’t had a date in her life. I mean who in their right mind would bang this?

        7. Damn, you really enjoy nitpicking trivial shit don’t you? It’s a legitimate word in Spanish(where the word actually comes from). As someone who is somewhat conversational in Spanish, calling a female a mulatto sounds awkward.
          And no, I would not use the word in public as it’s considered offensive to some. But in internet discussions revolving around racial taxonomy, its usage is perfectly fine. Though in reality it’s no more inherently offensive than the word “mestizo/a” which is frequently used by Latin Americans.

        8. As someone who is somewhat conversational in Spanish, calling a female a mulatto sounds awkward.

          So does using a technically non-existent term such as “mulatta” when one is actually speaking English.

          And no, I would not use the word in public as it’s considered offensive to some. But in internet discussions revolving around racial taxonomy, its usage is perfectly fine.

          Your admission of cowardice and hiding behind internet anonymity here is quite interesting. I, on the other hand, have said nothing here that I wouldn’t say — or haven’t already said — in real life.

          Though in reality it’s no more inherently offensive than the word “mestizo/a” which is frequently used by Latin Americans.

          The term “mestizo” merely derives from the Latin word “mixticius,” which simply means “mixed.” “Mulatto,” however, derives originally from the Spanish term “mulato,” which itself derives from the old Portuguese term for “mule” — meaning “the hybrid offspring of a mule and a donkey.”
          I wonder which term, then, actually carries a more offensive connotation?

          Damn, you really enjoy nitpicking trivial shit don’t you?

          So when the likes of you or Athlone pounce upon something or attempt to dissect a dissenting point-of-view word for word, it’s merely “engaging in debate.” But when I do it, it’s “nitpicking trivial shit.”
          Thanks for clearing that up for me.

        9. Yes, cowardice of course. I don’t say “motherfucker” in polite company either, I guess that makes me a coward to. I’ve used the world “mulata” in Latin America where it has no more offensive connotation than the word “negro”. I call myself “negro” in Latin America, yet using the same word to describe myself in America would get strange looks. Same thing. None of these words are inherently offense, it’s just the context they are used in. Like I said, in discussions revolving around racial taxonomy, using mulato/a or negroid or mongoloid is perfectly fine, though in a causal conversation you would not use them. I don’t know why you’re making a big deal out of this.

        11. What kind of moron would take pride in being a mutt? It takes someone with brain damage to see that as a good thing. But liberals and neo cons have been screwing up this country for decades and the results are showing.

        12. You are a mutt, I am a mutt and 95% of the people are mutts. there is no racial purity you idiot, unless you are an alien there is a multitude of different races DNA in you, we all come from a common ancestor.

        13. I can say this… I’m white as white can be and I’m thankful that I don’t look like a damn shitskin.
          Let’s just say there is 10% black in me… Why the fuck would I want to water things down more? I find oil drillers like Robert De Niro just as pathetic as any coal burner.
          Seriously, I look at sheboon females and I just do not see it. Even a Halle Berry. All I see is a nigger. A sheboon with the biggest boobs is still just a nigger. I can’t see it any other way.
          To water things down further is retarded and just a sign that someone is mentally defective.

        14. “What kind of moron would take pride in being a mutt?”
          Its evolutionarily healthier than being inbred. Tay Sachs is one of many examples.

        16. This is stupid. Biracial kids with good looking parents have good looking babies. Ugly fat mudsharks and ghetto dwellers have some of the ugliest babies imaginable. Exception -Tiger Woods babies are ugly as sin. You can’t tell me they are better looking than if Elin married a Swede.

        17. I’m not sure you’ve been reading the discussion very closely. Here is the comment speakeasy was replying to:

          You must be joking. Every Mulatto person I have ever seen looks ugly as fuck – like some freak of fucking nature.

          The user “guest” has implied here that EVERY mulatto is ugly based upon his personal experience. It is upon the basis of this experience that he denies an earlier claim that mulattos tend to be attractive.
          Speakeasy (who is by no means a “faggot”, btw) proceeded to present a single example of an attractive mulatta. Since the person he is responding to implied that mulattos were ugly without exception, speakeasy’s example does in fact disprove the claims made earlier. It is an effective argument and not a “classic feminist tactic”.

        18. I do not think that an unattractive Swede would have produced a more attractive child with Elin than Tiger did.

        19. I do not think that an unattractive Swede would have produced a more attractive child with Elin than Tiger did.

        20. Some guys think she’s hot. She has nice body you know. Nice tits, ass, and hips! I won’t mind dating her.

        21. TO bad everything points to IQ being over 85% genetic. If affirmative action ever falls everyone but whites and Asians will starve.

        22. To see the effects of over 100,000 years of evolution in opposite directions look at the Olympic short distance run winners verses upper body strength event winners. If you don’t count Peace and Literature(which have been won by warmongers and ghost writers) there is only one black Nobel Prize winner and it was for the economic system that Zimbabwe and Argentina proved false.

        23. Which demographic doesn’t know who their dad is? Sickle Cell is a much better example as it used to have a benefit before whitey brought quinine to Africa. Its healthier for blacks to breed with anyone healthier than them.

        25. Any man who says he wouldn’t hit this has gay genes in him that he is not aware of.

        27. I think you live in the dream world.
          Just check countries like Brazil or Colombia and you will see that race matters even if you are mix-raced.
          Personally, I think bi-racialism even increases racism while making the population weaker against external threat (ISIS, Russia, China, etc.)

        28. But there are still substantial differences between Caucasoids, Mongoloids and Blacks.
          I don’t believe in this “one race” shit.

        31. Mulatto Zambos Black Woman Blasian Afro Latinas & Garifunas look better than White woman.

        32. And with straight hair, you would not know from where she in fact comes from. Asia, africa, south europe.

        33. Very often it is even impossible to figure out the roots of a mixed race person. Is she native american, asian indian, mulatto.Even the people on carribean islands very often fail to guess right.

        34. There were probably 10 indian asian nobel laureates of a population of 1,3 billions, and india is one centralized nation.
          In black africa there are mostly small countries and the total population is 650million.
          Secondly, there were never more than two or three noteworthy sprinters from africa.

      4. Lemme get this straight, why is it his resposnsibility to talk about blacks? he is on the other team, why would he be talking for black folks who have made an alliance with THE MAN and you are surprised that THE MAN has given you a raw deal, and it’s his job to fight for you when you made the deal through your so called leaders to play footsie with THE MAN? Who does he think he is some uppity white guy talking for the brothas, as if they can’t do it themselves? Yes i am sure if he included blacks in his book he would be hailed as a hero by the black folks and their dear leaders not as some try hard suckup old white guy trying to be nice to them to get them voting republican for a bag of chips.

      5. If by violence you mean female on male manipulation and implicit threat of violence by state fiat through feminism, it’s one and the same for both white and black populations. Manifestations of problems due to feminism expresses themselves in different ways in the different social strata. The so called violence wasn’t so overtly pronounced in white society was because they could hide it with more money and a cubicle monkey job. Where as the blacks got permanently attached to the teat of the state since they are poorer. In fact the whites are worse off since those sad fucks work and still get screwed at least blacks can run around and have fun and play knockout games ( because less is expected of them and their friend THE MAN is looking the other way). E.G. what kinds of sad fucks gets henpecked into giving up their country ( immigrants actually hurt blacks the most ). Therefore, feminism’s subversive effect and corruption of organic authentic society works the same way everywhere it’s effect shows up in different ways depending on the contextual environment, people, society, economy, culture, religion etc etc.

      6. If your not concerned with sentencing laws, drug laws and the hostile educational system that’s your decision. If a comment section infested with racist and internet trolls can make you abandon the fight against toxic feminism and fight for male rights, you were never invested from the get go. I don’t care who a man chooses to date. My only concerned is he doesn’t get sent to jail on a fake dv complaint, a false rape complaint or get financially raped.
        BTW: MGTOW is a win in my book. Best of luck and how you have a successful future.

      7. Cases like the Brian Banks trail and most cases involving baby mamas have shown time after time that its not white women that are to blame but women in general and the system that supports them in taking down men. The system rapes the male gender and gives women unearned and undeserved privileges

    9. Hi, your comment caught my eye. I too am a lawyer looking to get the hell out. Hell, I wasted years not just at law school, but in practice as well! Coincidentally, i was also thinking about teaching English either in Russia or another resource rich state of the FSU. ( I was thinking Azerbaijan or Kazakhstan). Has the law degree helped you to secure a gig which pays better than the average teaching job? Do you cop any criticism for having left the profession? I would be very grateful for any insights.

    10. Encourage fellow members of your race to leave the West and infect some other part of the world.

    11. Something i learned today, perception of treatment received by individuals in onezies and twozies holding american passport in a foreign land is representative of how a whole massive group of those individuals will be perceived by the locals if they were present in said foreign land.

    12. since caucasian hill peoples such as the azeris are so nice maybe you can get them to take in some black brothers en masse out of their hellish living conditions in america which by the way is one best in the world among african derived population, not to mention the set asides and institutional privilege.
      Hell maybe you can ask them about having some of the local broads, i bet that will go over splendidly well.
      Plus since you are a teacher, you could educate the locals about the much larger levantine and later muslim slave trade going on for thousands of years, working them slaves to their merciful death, there’s a reason you don’t see blacks in near east. I’m sure upon hearing that the locals would be more than happy to pay reparations hand over fist and fly out al sharpton to ask for forgiveness on behalf of the muslim world.
      LOL

    13. This guy hasn’t any shame or barometer for tone. A very large segment of black men have always been absent from the fight. Have learned to hate Black women for remaining in the fight that protect their men and children and family, then talk about them in insulting terms. Just shameful. I don’t have respect for these “men”. they shouldn’t have for themselves either They should give thanks to the wonderful Black women still fighting the good fight for our side
      You so proudly announce your weakness and cowardice and abandonment of your culture and the people that gave you life. Good Riddance candyass.
      Thank goodness for the black men that are standup fellas. Everyday heroes quietly wokring hard and being responsible in the face of the lies told on them.
      Black women called out of their names and charged with not being feminine. Still, doing the damn thing.

    14. I’m with you, man. I’m also Black, and yes, living abroad is great on many levels for us. I traveled and taught in Japan for a while and got to see how nicer things were on several levels. I’ve only come back to America for a few years, but I plan on getting out for good next chance I get.

    16. Segregation took nothing from you savages but merely protected Whites from your stealing and raping.Even your precious MLK said in 1960 that Blacks were 10% of the population then but committed 41% of the crimes.Its always Blacks wanting to move into White areas and lusting after even the fattest,ugliest White females,never the reverse.Are you that sickened by your own females?

      1. If that is the case, how do you explain ‘gentrification,’ ?
        I.e. whites moving into black areas.
        It is white men who lust after others women. The mulatto and mestizo populations of .Latin America were created by white men lusting aftter African and Native women. stop projecting.

  3. I’ve said this before, but given cases like duke lacrosse, where supposedly ‘privileged’ white men were falsely accused by a black girl, with a similar outcome as the other modern cases in this article, how do you figure race plays a factor in any of this?

    1. Ding ding ding. We have a winning answer.
      It is not race related at all.
      Some groups like to blame EVERYTHING on race and modern society is eager to give anyone that is not a white european male a politically correct pass and poetic license to say anything they want without fact to achieve the desired outcome.

      1. It is race. The only difference is the script has flipped and the toll deminished. The mob has gone from lynching only black men to persecuting black, white, and Latin men.
        Next time you see a man of any color, any station, being falsely accused, ponder the fact that it could have been you.
        Ask not for whom tolls…

        1. That’s true, but human nature often drives us to say “better him than me”, especially when you didn’t hold that particular him in a high regard, and/or that particular him was on an opposing side of conflict.

    2. Most black girls would love to be “raped” by a white guy. She only reported those white guys to the police because they didn’t ejaculate inside her vagina, instead on her face or the floor!

      1. Chystal Manjaw is now behind bars for murder. And a couple of those Duke athletes were never anywhere near her where she was stripping but were charged anyway.

        2. You have to love niggers that post pictures of soulless whores (pornstars) that don’t even value themselves and they think that it means something.
          It shows you how long niggers set the bar.
          PORNSTARS. lol
          That shit is supposed to bother someone? Getta outta here nigger.

        3. I know what I am doing to be doing to you bitch. Mudsharks should all be burned at the stake

        5. i love how paulie and brian are both trying soooo hard to convince everybody how their feelings are not hurt.
          Paulie and Brian, you two are soo try-hard.
          so obvious.

        6. Is this the best you can do?
          They don’t hand out welfare checks (bummer, huh?) for being lazy trolls and so this will not help you.

        15. Couldn’t at least stop pretending to be different people? At least then you wouldn’t come off as being so pathetic. You might still be repetitive and boring, but at least there would be some progress.

      3. Good thing that ni66er filth is in prison for the rest of her worthless life now for murder.

        2. “What planet are you from where women love to be violated?”
          Not a planet, its a country. The United States of America. Supposedly white American women primarily of Anglo and Scotts-Irish background love to be choked and beaten up during sex (which must be anal in order for them to feel any satisfaction).
          Can you imagine growing up with this as your only “culture”?
          No wonder so many of them are on anti-depressants.

    3. Duke LAX is one case of a prosecutor during an election showing willful misconduct( he paid for it with his licence ). Show me another case like that where the justice was miscarried and people spent time in jail. None of the Duke boys spent 15 months in prison, have to register as sex offenders, and the DA lost his job and license . It is not about race except when it is.

    4. The only thing that one needs to know when it comes to modern race discussions is stunningly simple and deafeningly crushing: Most Americans believe that blacks and hispanics are more racist than whites– including the blacks and hispanics themselves. In fact, the only group who rates whites as more racist than blacks are Democrats. Is there anything else that needs to be said about politics or race in America after that?
      http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/lifestyle/general_lifestyle/july_2013/more_americans_view_blacks_as_racist_than_whites_hispanics

      1. Most Americans believe that blacks and hispanics are more racist than whites– including the blacks and hispanics themselves.
        You’re an idiot. 37% of Americans said they believe blacks as more racist than whites. How is that “most?” And even if most Americans did think that, so what? Most Americans are white, so don’t you think that would bias their answers and perceptions? Your “deafeningly crushing” argument is so idiotic I assume you must believe in HBD? I notice HBD people have this weird thing where they present weak evidence while wildly overstating how devastating it is.

        1. Genius, the study controlled for race. Did you even read the damn poll? BLACKS THEMSELVES REPORT THAT BLACKS ARE MORE RACIST THAN WHITES.
          Fine, correction: “More” Americans believe that blacks and hispanics are more racist than whites– including the blacks and hispanics themselves.
          BLACKS THEMSELVES REPORT THAT BLACKS ARE MORE RACIST THAN WHITES.
          BLACKS THEMSELVES REPORT THAT BLACKS ARE MORE RACIST THAN WHITES. BLACKS THEMSELVES REPORT THAT BLACKS ARE MORE RACIST THAN WHITES. BLACKS THEMSELVES REPORT THAT BLACKS ARE MORE RACIST THAN WHITES. BLACKS THEMSELVES REPORT THAT BLACKS ARE MORE RACIST THAN WHITES. BLACKS THEMSELVES REPORT THAT BLACKS ARE MORE RACIST THAN WHITES. BLACKS THEMSELVES REPORT THAT BLACKS ARE MORE RACIST THAN WHITES. BLACKS THEMSELVES REPORT THAT BLACKS ARE MORE RACIST THAN WHITES. BLACKS THEMSELVES REPORT THAT BLACKS ARE MORE RACIST THAN WHITES.

      3. Ni66ers can’t be racist simply because they do not belong to the human race. Ni66ers hate ALL human beings for being left behind in evolution, they envy us all for the one thing they can never take from us: humanity.

    5. “I’ve said this before, but given cases like duke lacrosse”
      Cases or case?
      When you can name me 5 or more additional cases of that nature (white male getting thrown under the bus in defense of a black female), I’ll buy your argument.
      Until then, I’m going to continue to point out the blatantly obvious: black men and this nation’s criminal justice system generally do not get along, and not all of that enmity is due to actual wrongdoing on the part of black men.

      1. Ni66ers simply do not get along with or deserve to live amongst humanity. Let’s cut right through the bullsh1t here.

      2. black men commit more rapes (and violent crime in general, and hate crime too) per capita than any other group. Do some get treated unfairly? Sure, but for the most part they bring it upon themselves.
        Also, Trayvon Martin was a violent little thug died under extremely ambiguous circumstances. That you even brought him up to support your argument should discredit you immediately.

        1. black men commit more rapes (and violent crime in general, and hate crime too) per capita than any other group. Do some get treated unfairly? Sure, but for the most part they bring it upon themselves.

          True only to a certain extent.
          http://amptoons.com/blog/2006/09/12/prison-sentencing-study-whites-women-non-poor-and-us-citizens-are-given-lighter-sentences/
          Black behavior is certainly an issue in and of itself (as I’ve detailed more than once on this website), but actual racism (the kind that would persist even in the event of entirely gentlemanly conduct on the part of black men and other minorities) is far more than the trivial, inconsequential factor you make it out to be here.

          Also, Trayvon Martin was a violent little thug died under extremely
          ambiguous circumstances. That you even brought him up to support your
          argument should discredit you immediately.

          I’m not sure you read the article very carefully.
          I said this:

          Much has been said about the dangers black men face in our modern society. The Trayvon Martin incident helped to amplify this focus

          All I have actually claimed here is that the Trayvon incident helped to increase the discourse relating to the supposed dangers facing black males in modern society. This is merely a fact – the incident got people talking.
          I made no actual judgements with regard to the incident’s actual validity as substantiation for the claim that there is a war on black men in the USA. Trayvon’s innocence (or alleged lack thereof) isn’t relevant and I’ve not brought it up here in the way you claim I have.
          If you want to hear my thoughts on the Trayvon incident, you can read this article:

          Why Trayvon Martin Isn’t That Important

    6. Turbo, “I’ve said this before, but given cases like duke lacrosse, where
      supposedly ‘privileged’ white men were falsely accused by a black girl,
      with a similar outcome as the other modern cases in this article, how
      do you figure race plays a factor in any of this?”
      – Are the Duke guys dead because of the allegations? Did they do any prison time? Do they have felony records and did they have to register as sex offenders as a result? No, no, no and no?
      Then you can’t compare them to Emmet Till, Darrell Williams or Marcus Dixon.

      1. Niggers don’t deserve to live simply because they’re ugly as sin. Especially the sheboon females that can’t even grow hair that looks reasonable.

        2. “SHOULD” have nothing to do with it. Women will fuck who ever turns them on. Life is not far. Grow up.

        3. “fair” …not “far”. Life is not fair.
          It is what it is.
          Freedom for women = i get to ride any dick that i want.

        4. Then don’t come crying when you get abused, catch aids, and are left the proud single parent of your own little pet ape, barely making it on welfare and food stamps as most White women that lay with niggerapes do. We will not listen nor care. 🙂

        7. So…if it doesnt hurt your feelings…why write a college essay about how it doesnt hurt your feelings?
          WHAWHAWHAHWAHAHAHAHAHAHA. WHAMBULANCE.

        8. I shouldn’t have to explain anything to niggers… But they’re niggers. They have ZERO self-awareness and so things have to be explained to them.
          And niggers can’t understand why they’re at the bottom in society for the most part. They won’t/can’t understand anything outside of: Muhdik, rapping, gold chains and sports.
          Only a liberal or a nigger would consider an explanation to be a sign that one has “hurt feelings”.

        9. [img]http://www.realfacefucking.com/uploads/gg_hr_chanel-1.jpg[/img]
          That is funny shit right there.

        11. American girls are sluts. White american girls are sluts. They fuck and talk like porn stars. Ever fuck one before? Trying to pedestalize white girls by making a distinction between slutty white chicks and slutty porn stars is a distinction without a difference.
          Pedestalization is for losers. These american girls are all whores and sluts. period. wake the fuck up. They will rationalize and fuck any cock that tingles their gina. End of story.

        14. blahblahblahblahblah. you are such a fairy, brian.
          if i have to guess, you are one of those weird looking kid, people kick around in middle school.

        18. Mine was a lot better. Sorry. Just look at the nigger sows face. lol
          So pathetic.
          Nigger and liberals trolling abilities match their work ethic.
          Once we get rid of the liberals and welfare, the niggers will start to die out just like there doing in Africa.

        19. Anyone that sits on the internet posting porn all day is a fucking loser. So it’s quite clear that you know a lot about that. Not only that, but you think it actually provides some of substance in terms of an argument. It doesn’t. I’m sure I can find endless pictures of sheboon pornstars sucking white dick, but why would I want to do that? It’s just lazy and stupid trolling.
          What we also know is that liberals and niggers understand nothing about how to build a functioning society. You don’t have to tell me that you value nothing, I figured out that much already.
          Lastly… Are you going to tell me that sheboons value life or anything of importance?
          http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2012/tables/12s0101.pdf
          Sheboons and blacks do not value life.
          Talk about sluts and whores. Sheboons either kill their sprogs or they raise them as single parents because they can’t attract a decent man that will put up with them for the long term.
          That’s the real end of the story.

        20. And if I haven’t provided enough info on niggers for you, you can always go here:
          chimpmania.com

        24. This is what the apes do to the coal burners:
          [img]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-5Vyn6-uWJI4/TaR5dzOiW-I/AAAAAAAAAM4/pZV_lP7bh_c/s400/Elin%2BKrantz.jpg[/img]
          Or if they get lucky they just end up like most of the hoodrat black females… Trying to raise niglets as a single mother.
          Which hey… If we yank the welfare and let them be stuck with the bastards they create, then that is fine.

        25. This is what the apes do to the coal burners:
          [img]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-5Vyn6-uWJI4/TaR5dzOiW-I/AAAAAAAAAM4/pZV_lP7bh_c/s400/Elin%2BKrantz.jpg[/img]
          Or if they get lucky they just end up like most of the hoodrat black females… Trying to raise niglets as a single mother.
          Which hey… If we yank the welfare and let them be stuck with the bastards they create, then that is fine.

        26. Wake the fuck up? This is coming from a guy trolling a forum with porn pictures.
          It seems to me that you’re probably a bastard child that wasn’t raised with any kind of values or ethics. That’s not surprising… Many niggers and liberals come from broken homes and poor parenting.
          What we need to do is take welfare away and see how long the black coonmunity survives.
          Now, go ahead and post more pictures and gifs. That’s the only trick you have in your bag. You know that you’re not going to actually debate me and win and so you might as well just post juvenile muh dick pictures.

    8. I guess black women have began to enjoy the privlidges of white women in false rape or perhahps the prosecutors got so use to make up false charges against black man he just assumed lacrosse players = athletes = black = guilty and that no matter how white their skin is they should still go to jail because women can’t lie about rape.

  4. Is the site name being changed to “Return of Commissars”? The reason I ask is because that is where propaganda of this type belongs. Major fail.

  5. So white women are a “swifter transport down the route of misfortune for a black man” than black on black crime, unemployment, thugism, welfare dependence, illiteracy, low IQ, laziness, fatherless households, a far higher incidence of violent crime, and drug abuse/sales?
    If it is even remotely a problem as you claim maybe blacks should just say no to the white skanks?
    Your articles are usually better than this ACORN/NAACP/Urban League racial crap.

    1. Indeed. Of course, we know that poor, beleaguered black males will never say no to white pussy — the greatest status symbol one can acquire for oneself and a nifty way to stick it to white boys, all in one!

    2. There are more whites on welfare than blacks. Google the statistics. Yahoo had an article some months ago that highlighted the high number of whites living in poverty. There are more whites in poverty than blacks. Whites and Asians are NOT the highest wage earners in the US…blacks are. Look it up. White suburban kids love drugs as much as anyone else.
      Thanks to feminism, white homes are becoming more and more fatherless…or, they’re becoming homes with two faggot dads or two dyke moms. Thugism is merely a response to the strong independent I-don’t-need-a-man black woman syndrome just as narcissism, machiavellianism, and psychopathy (dark triad) and/or MGTOW and/or enjoy the decline mindset are mere responses to the stong independent feminist you-go-grrlism white woman syndrome. The ills that plague the black community are also plaguing the white community and the responses to them from each race are more similar than different.

      2. There are more whites on welfare than blacks. Google the statistics.
        Percentages of total population- It’s what’s for breakfast!
        Let me roll it down to the 75IQ level. You have a cake with 8 slices. The “vanilla cake” has 2 slices taken out of it. The “chocolate cake” has 6 slices taken out of it.
        One cake weighs 10 lbs, the other cake weighs 3lbs. How many slices are still missing from the chocolate cake?

        2. Oh, fine, fine. We pick apart all sacred cows not just the ‘untouchable’ ones. If you find your sack sometime drop by and visit.

      4. 4/5 ths of people are white so even if there’s an equal number on welfare there are proportionally 10x as many blacks. Only 5% of whites are in the real underclass compared to 30-40% blacks and most of that tiny white % are elderly or disabled.Not knocked up females living off the fat of the land. Go to any welfare office ans see who’s sitting there waiting for benefits even if it’s a mostly white area.
        And why it is that Ne—groes can’t seem to understand fractions and percentages? Asleep in the 3rd grade?

      5. I guess you really are that fucking stupid. You will not get poetic license with the facts from me or the other men that pointed out your stupidity. Nice hamster though.

  6. In the United States in 2005, 37,460 white females were sexually
    assaulted or raped by a black man, while between zero and ten black
    females were sexually assaulted or raped by a white man. According to the US Department of Justice’s yearly “Criminal Victimization in the United States, Statistical Tables”.

    1. False rape accusation definition:
      “A false accusation of rape is the intentional reporting of a rape by an alleged victim when no rape has occurred.”
      Who do think a judge would unconditionally believe when a white woman accuses a black man for rape?
      Obviously there are cases where a black man would rape/sexually assualt white woman but I would bet my left nut a significant percentage are innocent black guys being thrown under the bus by insecure white girls who can’t comprehend a pump and dump.
      PS. Why don’t you tell us the statistics for rape involving a white farmer and black slave in 1860?

      1. Judges don’t decide guilt — that decision is made by a jury. And, those statistics are convictions, not mere accusations.

      2. “a significant percentage are innocent black guys being thrown under the bus”…
        What would that be? Let´s say 10-15% to be generous… That still leaves us with 30 000, does that really make a difference?
        And what about 1860, I thought we were talking about today?
        Do you mean that rapes today are justified because of injustices 150 years ago? Tell that to a rape victim…
        (Excuse my english, I´m from Sweden.)

    4. I was hoping someone would post these stats, this article is terrible. Interracial rape is massively over represented by black on white. Whereas white on black is basically non-existent. It’s a politically incorrect fact that no one publicly mentions

      1. There’s no white on black female rape. It’s 0 which is amazing considering that 4 out of 5 people are Caucasian. Look at even the top Ne—groe females, you’d need a bottle of viagra to just get it up and then some LSD so you can hallucinate that she’s somewhat female lol

    5. >37,460 white females were sexually assaulted or raped by a black man
      damn that one dude sure does get around

    6. While cases of white women falsely accusing black men of rape are certainly unfortunate, I’d have to say that they are exponentially fewer in number than white women actually getting raped, robbed, and assaulted by black men.

    7. It’s probably more like a 100k and the women just don’t report it. Can you imagine the disgrace of being shagged by a Ne—groe?

  8. Any attempt to point out the negative issues that black people face in society is doomed to face thinly veiled racially motivated hostility (reminds me of how any video with a black person in it on YouTube inevitably and depressingly draws closet racists to leave hate filled comments). Look at some of the angry comments printed here already; they just can’t accept any form of analysis whatsoever of the social reality of African Americans that does not involve condemnation of those same black people whatsoever.
    This site supposedly serves the needs of men who are progressive enough to see beyond how sex relations are framed in Western society. It’s a pity that a few more of then couldn’t try to do the same in relation to race.
    There doesn’t seem to be much hope of racism and racial antagonism and segregation going away anytime soon in the US.

    1. Correct. What you need to realize is that not all men are on the same team. In fact, we are in competition. White men and others are doing what is competitively beneficial to them by condemning us, and at times, playing both the victim and perpetrator roles. Thus, the need to do for self.
      The “red pill”, or at least parts of it, are damn useful, but to adhere to the entire philosophy as it is presented will be disastrous to us, just like marching lock step with liberals has been. If feminism is for White women, it makes since that masculism is for White men – at least in their mainstream forms.

      1. I can see that I was a bit naive about red pill ideology in thinking that there would be a spillover effect in to race and other areas; but looking at the same old stuff from some of the commentators here, that just isn’t going to happen for a sizeable number of men. The best that can be hoped for I suppose is that maybe some people might reconsider the way they see the world. Fuck knows how to fix race relations in America; the picture looks very depressing. The irony is that some of the same guys who have negative views about black people no doubt are the same who go on and on and on about racially mixed Brazil and how supposedly heavenly that country is (check out Roosh V’s travel forum to see the Brazil fixation at work). All without a trace of irony.
        Agreed about the liberals. It is the liberal elite and in particular, the Planned Parenthood trogan horse that has undermined the power of the Church in black communities in order to push through their eugenics, mass abortion programme against African Americans. Millions of unborn black children was the goal and by hell they succeeded. If they ever succeed in destroying the influence of the Church in black communities altogether, then surely only worse can follow.
        If in the event that black kids started to seriously compete for the jobs that the white middle class covet for their children, then you would see just how “liberal” they really are. Many middle class liberals play at racial equality and they use the issue as a way to status jockey with other liberals – and that’s about as deep as their commitment goes. These are the same people who lecture others about “equality” but who themselves benefit from high immigration and a low wage society as a way of securing cheap labour (plenty of foreign nannies and people to serve them in their favorite coffee shops). So, anyone allying themselves with the liberal establishment should know full well that ultimately middle class liberals are very keen on protecting their own interests first; no matter what they say in public.

        1. Yup. Protect yourself (and your interests) at all times. One of the basic laws of nature.

        2. “Fuck knows how to fix race relations in America”
          You can’t. Don’t waste your time trying to figure it out. I’ve spent several years no engaging in often intense discourse with regard to race issues in the United States, and I’m quite convinced that there isn’t much hope for change. Minds are made up, history is in the books, old wounds remain unhealed. It is what it is.
          The only workable solution for you is to do what George said: look out for yourself. Take the red pill, but understand that how you adhere to red pill ideology as a black male will differ from how others do the same. The red pill still has value for non-white men, but that value has got to be sifted out carefully. Each non-white male interested in taking the red pill has to work that process out by themselves over time.

        3. That is very important for Black men to realize. Mr. McGennis, have you ever thought of starting your own blog?

        5. Stop with this racially mixed nonsense. In Brazil, Cuba etc etc etc there are White people (the Elite) Ne—groes (the bottom) and a lot of mixed people also near the bottom. The Whites run almost all of South America,the Islands, Cuba and everywhere else. The people that you see who want to come to the US are mostly the coloured people from the bottom who you in your ignorance think are representative of their country. The White Elite like their country just fine and have no desire to live in the US. Let’s take Cuba for example; it’s 2/3 rds Caucasian, 10% Ne–groe and 25% mulatto or mixed. But you can be sure that your impressions from what you see in the US is not of Cuba being a Euro country. Argentina and Chile are also all White countries among others. This “hispanic” nonsense made up by the US government was just invented so as to not hurt some people’s feelings because many from the DR for example may think of themselves as White (mixed people really) in their own country but once in the US would be thought of as Ne—groe or coloured. So basically they can call themselves “hispanics” and not get their feelings hurt.

        6. And btw, when a White goes to Brazil he seeks out other Whites, he doesn’t go look for some coloured girl in the favelas. Don’t draw any conclusions based on what your leader Roosh does because he appears to go to the crappiest clubs in the crappiest towns around the world. Men of wealth and substance don’t do this.And men of substance don’t jump over tables in Brazil and grab their cheap bottle of fizz water out of the hands of some girl just because they took a bit. Roosh almost got his arse kicked for doing that and is banned from Brazil now.

        7. “I can see that I was a bit naive about red pill ideology in thinking
          that there would be a spillover effect in to race and other areas”
          It doesn’t. Red pillers are about as mainstream as you will get. They don’t even deconstruct religion. I mean look at all the so called “Red Pill Christian” blogs out there. Oxymoron.

        10. Theres already a race that competes with whites over college admissions and middle class jobs – Asians. And liberals are still liberal. Dont try to cop out by claiming that even if blacks tried, they would be kept down. There are a lot of things wrong with white people today, but they are still all about fair play. Theres a slice of the pie for anyone willing to work hard and compete against them for it. But blacks would have to overcome their dysfunction first.

    3. You just can’t accept any form of analysis whatsoever of the social
      reality of non-black Americans: we are the perpetual targets of racially-motivated black violence, with white people getting the absolute worst of it.

    5. Seems like kind of a dumb comment. Look at the “black response” to the discussion. Posting up dozens of porn clips of black guys with huge dicks spraying cumshots at white women.
      Knockout game.
      You are right, not much hope.
      We shoulda picked our own fucking cotten.

      1. “black response”…bullshit
        It’s obviously a troll creating multiple accounts trying to stir things up, even posting under faked female names.

  9. I think the black male hamster exceeded its limits after writing this article and needs a rest.

    1. Yeah, that shoeshine boy wasn’t so innocent and was trying to shine her pussy in the elevator.

  12. I’m sure that back in the day, race played into these kind of rage filled overreactions but I think in today’s climate white women are white knighted the most simply because they are the hottest.
    Guys will pretty much fall over themselves to try to impress any hot girl regardless of race.
    It’s very simple, hot girl gets believed by asshole white knights. It doesn’t have to have make sense, she’s right because she has more evolutionary value than most guys.
    I don’t think it would matter if those three athletes would have been white, they still would be attacked and tried to be put through the system. See Colt Brennan, Duke Lacrosse team, Ben Rothelisberger, etc. It just doesn’t matter. Hot woman cries, thirsty men react.

    1. “I think in today’s climate white women are white knighted the most simply because they are the hottest.”
      That’s just the reach of western media putting that message out, and everyone else buying into it.
      Female Fashion models? Mostly whiteI think in today’s climate white women are white knighted the most simply because they are the hottest.
      Female Singers? Nowadays, except for a few exceptions mostly white…
      Female movie stars? When was the last time a “flavor of the week” media darling actress was NOT white?

      1. This would have been a good point in, say, 1985 or so.
        In 2013? Spin, hamsta’, spin!
        The bottom line: Hollywood and the entertainment biz are, as we all know, completely driven by money. Consumer buying habits speak loudest. Flavor-of-the-week media darlings tend to be overwhelmingly white because that’s what sells — at both the immediate level (at home in the States) and worldwide.
        If the masses preferred to see women who look midnight-black with large lips and kinky hair, for example — then that’s exactly what we’d see gracing the covers of shitty magazines and having a camera in their face on the E! Network or whatever.
        But the masses speak with their dollars — masses of all racial and ethnic backgrounds, from all over the globe. They want to see cute, cookie-cutter white girls. So cute, cookie-cutter white girls are what we get.
        Anyway, you act as if Beyonce and Halle Berry and Lucy Liu and Kerry Washington and Jennifer Lopez and Lauryn Hill and Eva Longoria and Sofia Vergara and Naomi Campbell (et al.) haven’t graced any magazine covers or TV screens, or had any fawning media attention at all, over the last ten years or so.

        2. “But the masses speak with their dollars — masses of all racial and
          ethnic backgrounds, from all over the globe. They want to see cute,
          cookie-cutter white girls. So cute, cookie-cutter white girls are what
          we get.”
          All over the globe? White people are not on the magazines “all over the globe”. Each country has their own set of stars and models.

        4. White girls are on the runways in countries with white majorities. They are not on the runways in countries where they are not. If and when you ever travel the world you will experience such.

        5. I’ve been to 45 countries and about 1/2 of them were non white and can tell you that White is what you see in magazines and what girls want to be like even when they keep their natural looks and don’t try to change it like some ghetto mamma in a weave. Another preference is to speak English and every girl I know whether Russian or Chinese speaks perfect English where I can’t even learn some Chinese because they all want to speak English all the time. Then females from around the world even want to copy white Euro culture and customs (not African pal) to the extent that they’ll even celebrate Christmas, have trees and Santa Claus in China.I was in an upscale mall with my 19yo Chinese gf and it was decked out like in the US!

        6. Get out of the hood son and you’ll learn about the world. Nobody on earth regardless of race is emulating Nigeria.

        7. “Then females from around the world even want to copy white Euro culture and customs”
          Do they copy white Euro sexual perversions as well? Anal for heteros? Choking? Peeing on each other?
          “Another preference is to speak English”
          Well of course! English is the international business language. Why wouldn’t people want to speak it?
          “I’ve been to 45 countries and about 1/2 of them were non white and can tell you that White is what you see in magazines”
          That’s odd. Do you mind naming the specific countries where white foreigners show up as the majority models in magazines? What about the commercials, TV shows and movies? These countries don’t have their own indigenous programming? Again, which countries are we talking about here?

        11. Why does someone feel the need to photoshop a dude in this picture. I mean the guy doesn’t even have a shadow! I have no tolerance for photo editing incompetence.

      2. “That’s just the reach of western media putting that message out, and everyone else buying into it.”
        Who buys into it? Most people know that white people age horribly and most have thin lips that disappear completely by 37. Heck, white people are the first to admit this about themselves and that’s why and who Botox and Collagen treatments were invented for.
        They hit their wall young, fast and hard, having a window of only ages 14-24 to work with.

        1. ” Most people know that white people age horribly and most have thin lips that disappear completely by 37.”
          What relevance does what race looks best post wall?
          In their prime, white women are the hottest. End of story.
          Yes I understand preference will vary but on a macro level across the world men given their pick with no one else to know about it will choose something similar to this:
          http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1293365.1363737462!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/yacht20f-3-web.jpg

        2. “Yes I understand preference will vary but on a macro level across the
          world men given their pick with no one else to know about it will choose
          something similar to this”
          I don’t know how such a statement could be verified. I’ve traveled my entire life across the world, lived in various countries for extended periods, and never walked away with that impression at all. Like I said before, each country has its own movie stars, models and idolized “babes” which reflect the ethnic majorities of those countries (hence not white or blonde). Look closely, the woman in the above pic has definitely had upper lip collagen treatments and her eyes are small. She is still certainly attractive, way above average for the USA that is for sure, but not drop dead gorgeous in a stunningly naturally beautiful sort of way.

        3. Blonde Nordic types like her are extremely rare when the whole world’s population is factored in. She is the equivalent to pussy gold.
          Every place in the world will have women with symmetrical faces but only the North has the conditions to produce extremely fair featured beauties like Elin.
          Scarcity is valued. It’s a innate human trait. Blonde blue eyed symmetrical women are the scarcest in the entire world. Combine that with evolutionary cues of light features signaling youth and fertility.
          Look you are just going to have to accept that white chicks are hotter than you at least in their prime. It’s just a fucking fact. I don’t care how much you deny it.

        4. “Every place in the world will have women with symmetrical faces but only
          the North has the conditions to produce extremely fair featured
          beauties like Elin.”
          The Far North may produce beautiful women with light coloring, that’s all well and good and I never expressed a problem with it (why would I?) I said she was attractive and she blows most American women out of the ball park (most American women and men are 5’s at best and in their prime), but you claimed all across the globe the MAJORITY of men would prefer her look to the look of their own cultures’ beauties, and I said I highly doubt it and don’t know how such a thing could be quantified.
          I know in many parts of the world I’ve traveled people with her coloring are considered alien and odd looking. That’s not to say she’s ugly, she certainly isn’t.

        5. Because she is SCARCE, you fucking idiot.
          Plenty of women around the world share the same superior symmetrical values that define biological beauty but very very very few have the coloring thus making Nordic chicks more valuable.
          There are plenty of uber hot women around the world but they all have dark hair and dark eyes while only a tiny smidgen have blonde hair and blue eyes along with the perfect symmetry. It’s really not that hard to understand. If you have all the qualities of a competitor yet you have something that no one else has, you are more valuable.
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scarcity_(social_psychology)

        6. “Because she is SCARCE, you fucking idiot.”
          Oh calm down. This conversation isn’t that important.
          “If you have all the qualities of a competitor yet you have something that no one else has, you are more valuable.”
          Again, for the third time. I’ve not heard that blondes with blue eyes are especially prized or preferred in the many countries I’ve been to.
          When and if you ever travel, your mileage may vary.
          Again, its not particularly important so relax.

        7. You’re an idiot, get out into the white world and you’ll see even old women who are hot.

        9. Wrong. In all cultures pale females are the ideal and it’s easy to see why. Pale females just look softer and more feminine.
          I was looking at a magazine this Paki guy I know had. It was a Paki magazine but yet all of the females in it were a lot lighter than the norm in his country. So the ideal is for pale skinned blondes which may only be a tiny fraction of a % in that country (probably a remnant from the past when Indo Aryans ruled the world and before blacks moved into Egypt etc)

        10. Blonde blue eyed are found in all Caucasians right into Turkey and Iran etc. They are just more common in the extreme north but the population there is small so most blondes are not nordic but they are all Caucasian.

        12. Answer me this. If people so prefer their own type then why the hell do all the models in India look like white people with tans? They find the most Aryan looking people and put them in the media. I don’t see any Indians that look like that in the states, they have much darker skin and features. Those two pictures are pretty representative of the Indian models in the media. Darker ones are not included.
          So why do you people want to be white so bad if white isn’t that good according to you? Why do you try to bleach your skin and elevate the Aryan side instead of the Dravidian?
          I’m just being objective about it too. I don’t consider Northern Euro men to be the best looking. South Europe has got that on lock and they have olive skin and dark hair.
          Light skin and light features = rare and biological fertility.
          Dark skin and masculine features = dominance and status.
          http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Cr5jWN-bwiA/TdT78OcFYfI/AAAAAAAACUM/V7IrBsHjIkM/s1600/indian_model_mahi_03.jpg
          http://gallery.thefaceofsouthindia.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/indian-actress-richa-pallod-glamour-stills-13-608×869.jpg

        14. You’ve either never been anywhere or if you go somewhere you hang out with the same class of stumblebums you do in the ‘hood. Like always goes with like so if you’re in Paris you’ll be hanging with the bros and not the elite.

        15. They all originated from Norse lands. The Vikings have a good legacy.
          Norway/Danes into U.K and France (Normandy = Northman land), Swedes all over the East (Rus = Red, Slav = Slave)

        18. ” The vast majority of Indian actresses are fair skinned.”
          You’ve not been to India so understandably you are unaware of their vast regional cinema. Including in Dravida Land.
          “I doubt that many male want to bleach their skin”
          Think again my fair weather friend….

        25. Is there a company that has these male models pose standing side ways only to drag n drop them onto a photo featuring a female model? *sigh* it’s all about the money these days I guess, no integrity I tell yah.

        26. While you continue to log on under different aliases posting porn, I’ll have another drink in celebration of Trayboon’s death.

  13. These narratives often imply that whites launched early 20th century race riots over frivolous racist pretexts, yet never seem to explore patterns of black behavior that may have actually precipitated the outrages.

    1. So are you justifying the murder, and beating of these people because of the behavior of a few?…i thought are common goal of men on this site was to stop and prevent shit like this from happening, but since its a black man being done the injustice from false allegation then its justified correct?

      1. Acceptable to Jack: a controversial (and to most people, outright racist) claim that white women are trouble for blacks. A broad brush comment that goes right past “him” without complaint.
        Unacceptable to Jack: a claim that black men are trouble for white women. A broad brush claim that he compulsively takes to its most extreme strawman slippery slope implications and attacks repeatedly.
        In essence: It’s ok to make broad brushed stereotypical statments about blacks if they’re portrayed as victims, but not ok to make similar statements if blacks are portrayed as anything else?

      2. You are incorrect. I am not justifying abuse of anyone, just pointing out that these examinations of race riots conveniently leave out any discussion of black behavior that lead to inevitable paroxysms of internecine violence. It’s as if angelic blacks were suddenly attacked by vicious white rather than white society enduring long periods of continual insult to their civic culture before exploding in cathartic rage. This narrative device is taken to its extreme on the pages of Salon, which prints at least one essay per day on this theme. In terms of being provocative, an essay titled “10 Reasons Why Whites Should Avoid Blacks” would do well to gin up page traffic using the Feminist Journalism model.

    1. Why shouldnt we forget it? It happened almost a hundred years ago. Im much more interested in recent events. Like the 2007 Knoxville Horror case. Oh wait, we’re not supposed to notice race except when blacks are the victims. My mistake.

      1. We shouldn’t forget because:
        1. There is a memorial for it in down town Duluth.
        2. It shows that false rape accusations is something hard coded into the female psyche rather than something that has just been coming up.
        3. To make it about false rape accusations instead of racism is a particularly delicious reframe.

  15. I’d say that women are a huge threat to successful men, and that men in American get it worse because of American women, and Black men get it worse because of racial dynamics.
    It goes down to what FuriousFerret said about white knights, but in this case, the white knights might be the White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, and by Klan I’m talking anyone motivated to see a Black man go down, not necessarily the Klan proper.

    1. women like to politically scapegoat black men for their poor sexual hygiene and dismal mate selection so they then can plead for more social programs and services as a result they can behave even more irresponsibly and punish the men for it too. Why wouldn’t a women try to get locked up because she regretted sex you? When women have their baby’s father locked up all the time, and you’re actually the baby father with a stable job and income, her prison inmate baby father she won’t do nothing to him!

  16. Shows that people reveal their true nature in secret. These are the same broads actively endorsing welfare, for it “helps” poor blacks. Little do they realize that they’ve weighed them down with feminism and the modern form of slavery. Democrats were the slave party initially; how ironic that their advocacy today is enslavement.

  17. Notice the trend here: white knights seeking to defend the honor a white girl. Men like that are in our courts locking up other men based on accusations and rumors all the time. And they form lynch mobs when they think their sweet, innocent little girls are attacked by the big, mean man.
    They’re worse than the worst female misandrist. Because they actually follow through with their beliefs.

  18. You made me laugh. Dangers black men face and Trayvon in the same sentence. Good one.

    1. Yeah, I stopped reading after Trayvon was mentioned. Classic case of the blind leading the blind.

      1. The Trayvon case was really black on black. Zimmermann’s mother is a Zambo in Peru which is a Ne—groe/Indian mix (They did have some slaves there once). Zambos are noted to be especially savage and even Darwin was told this when he was there in the 1800’s by the natives.

  19. Great article.
    One thing AM left out – probably because he’s young – is the homely, fat, and/or old white women who believe they are entitled to your attentions. When you don’t give them the attention they’re sure they deserve, they get vindictive. Luckily, I work in an unsexy part of the tech sector, so my office is overwhelmingly male, and the few women are mostly Asian.
    Leave the crazy white wimmens alone.

    3. Well, I must admit. Im only feelin’ my whitey guilt here for the last 113 years. At least he cut us some slack on the other 300 years for a change…

      1. Nothing lower in this world than a guilt-ridden white man like Athlone McGinnis. Their sickness is pathological.

  22. The examples cited in this article do not support the article’s premise. I would hardly consider high school/college-level athletes or teenagers trying to impress friends (Till) “successful” men. The article would have been more convincing if it had cited black businessmen or other professionals whose careers were ruined because of associations with white women.
    As to the premise of the article — “Are White Women the Greatest Threat to Successful Black Men?” — I would say the answer is “maybe.” But it is much more complicated than you make it out to be. When black men get to any level of success or fame, they seem to seek out white women as status symbol. What many of them fail to realize (because it is politically incorrect to say) is that most white women who date black men are morally depraved in some way. They are either money-hungry gold diggers looking to use their status as a white female to extract resources from a wealthy black man or they are literally mentally ill.
    In all my life, I have never known of any white female to date black men unless she had no better options (obese, unattractive, etc.) or had some type of mental issue (abandoned by her father, molested by male family members, etc.). I’m sure some people will say that is a “racist” comment, but that is just my honest observation. Most of the genuinely successful, stable black men I’ve known have been smart enough to avoid all of the drama of white females and are married to educated black women from middle class families.

    1. Successful black men seek out white women because those black men were not/are not thug enough for black women. White women who date black men are somehow deranged mentally? Nah. What you’re doing there is insulting black men with a strawman.

      1. “Successful black men seek out white women because those black men were not/are not thug enough for black women”
        So professional athletes and successful rappers aren’t “thug enough” for black women?
        “White women who date black men are somehow deranged mentally? Nah. What you’re doing there is insulting black men with a strawman.”
        You just proved one of my points with this comment. I said nothing insulting about black men — what I said was insulting to white women who date black men. The fact that you took this as an insult to black men proves my point about black men seeking out white women as status symbols. The implication that black men’s status symbols are somehow tarnished bruised your ego because you would like to think that you are somehow “sticking it to the man” when you date white women. The idea that black men are passing around damaged goods is an affront to that idea.

        1. dude. you basically state that only lack of options or mental illness will make a white woman date a black man and you don’t see how that’s insulting to black men?

        2. If all of your pride and self-worth as a human being is based on your ability to attract white women, I can see how that would be insulting. Otherwise, no, it’s just an honest observation.

        4. Saying that deranged white women are the only ones to date black men is an insult to black men. Tiger Woods is one of the most notable and successful athletes in the history of US sports; in fact, at one point he was the highest paid. He graduated, I believe, from an Ivy League university. Intelligent black men like him are not thug enough for black women. Black women would not have fucked with him in his earlier years because of his lack of game. They would fuck with him now because he’s loaded and because alpha fucks and beta bucks. Being a black athlete or music star is a satus symbol in itself. Just because an individual is alpha in his craft does not mean he is alpha with the ladies…take kanye west for example.
          Finally, just as successful white business owners are alpha with their craft and profession (contextual alpha), many are betas with women…take mark zuckerburg for example. The same holds true for black men in professional sports…though many are alpha.

        5. The majority of black date/marry black women. Set forth the evidence that proves your assertion that 80% of black males get their confidence from atrracting white women.

        6. “Saying that deranged white women are the only ones to date black men is an insult to black men.”
          No, it’s not. It’s just an honest observation. Let me put it this way: If some guy from Yemen said “Hey white guys — most of the Yemenese women who date white guys are just using them for a green card or are messed up in the head” — I would say “Thanks for the heads up, dude. If I’m ever in Yemen and some women start coming on to me, I will be sure to be extra cautious.”
          I wouldn’t take it as an insult. It wouldn’t hurt my pride. There are all sorts of social factors that come in to play with interracial relationships. The fact that most women of a certain group who go after guys of another certain group are deranged is not saying anything bad about that group of men. It just means there’s something unique going on with that set of interactions.

        7. If Yemenese women are using you for a green card…that is not an insult. Agreed. If Yemenese are messed up in the head…that is not an insult.
          “In all my life, I have never known of any white female to date black men
          unless she had no better options (obese, unattractive, etc.) or had
          some type of mental issue (abandoned by her father, molested by male
          family members, etc.)”…this is a clear insult.

        8. Are you deliberately pretending to not understand how what you said was insulting to black men, or are you just a total, utter idiot? And don’t give a third option because those are exhaustively the only two possible answers.

        9. He’s either trolling by playing dumb, or is actually dumb. Either way, don’t bother engaging anymore.

        10. Really? From what I’ve seen, read and heard black men think white women age terribly and have no lips. They prefer melanated women, either of African or other brown descent (Latin, Arab, Caribbean, South Asian, etc), who have a decent set of kissers. YMMV.

        11. I’ve heard this, too. And then I’ve laughed as I sat back and watched these same guys chase after nothing but white women.
          Pay attention to a black man’s deeds and not the stream of hot air and braggadocio that pours constantly from his mouth.

        12. Maybe it’s a case of going for the easy kills as opposed to actually making an effort to get the specific girl they want. And I remember hearing a similar rant, black men preferring more fair skinned women in a black feminism class I had to take in college. (It’s as painful to take as it sounds)

        13. “Pay attention to a black man’s deeds and not the stream of hot air and braggadocio that pours constantly from his mouth.”
          Then in that case black men overwhelmingly prefer black women to all others because that is who they wife up and knock up the most.

        14. Agreed. Let’s not pretend, though, that this has nothing to do with the long-term mating preferences of the vast majority of white women.
          I’m not disputing that most black men end up with black women. What I’m saying is this: if white women saw many of those black men as serious prospects for long-term commitment, and as someone they could raise a family with, then those black men would have gladly married the vanilla princess.
          Most black men realize that they’re seen as little more than an exotic “fuck Daddy” hook-up during a particularly rebellious or curious time in white women’s young lives. They come to realize, in time, that they’ve been sold a bill of goods as to the extent of white female enthusiasm for “da swirl’ — that said “swirl” often extends no further than a white woman’s cock-carousel years before she’s looking to scoop up some reliable, financially viable white beta for future-building.
          It often dawns on these black men that they were used at least as much as they used their women — and that, when it comes down to it, precious few middle-class white women could ever actually see them as intellectual and cultural equals, as someone with whom they could bring children into this world, as someone upon whom they could stake the next few decades of their lives.
          These black men realize this — that they’re largely no more than Mandingo fuck-toys for bored white sluts goig through a “try it all” phase.
          So they go back to black women. And they settle. And perhaps chastened and even somewhat a little bitter over their experience as flavor of the month, they tell anyone who’ll listen how white girls ain’t all that and they age really badly, and damn, I’m so glad I got me this fine lump of brown shuga.
          But they know the truth.
          And we white guys know the truth as well.
          And of course, the black male bitterness is usually only enhanced by his creeping suspicions that there’s a whole class of white women that was off-limits and out of his league the whole time. Of course, the only way to salve this wound on his ego is to fall back on tbe raaaay-cism card. “They just wouldn’t give me a chance cuz of stereotypes…”
          And that little black hamster, he just keeps a-spinnin’ right along…

        15. “Agreed. Let’s not pretend, though, that this has nothing to do with the
          long-term mating preferences of the vast majority of white women.”
          I don’t think so. I think most humans prefer to long term mate with others from their own ethno-cultural backgrounds. I think its natural, maybe even evolutionary, and certainly socio-cultural (in the good sense). We like to be around other people who “get us”. People who we have a shared history with.

        16. Who is the smart one here?The black male who enjoyed the white woman in her prime or the beta white male provider who got the leftovers. This is 2014, marriage to any woman in the west and becoming ” intellectual and cultural equals, as someone with whom they could bring children into this world, as someone upon whom they could stake the next few decades of their lives” is only a fools final destination.

        17. I don’t disagree with anything you’ve said here.
          But marriage in the modern West being a “fool’s final destination” does nothing to detract from the points I made about juvenile black male braggadocio being a cover for nagging insecurities and an attempt to stand tall in the face of discomfiting truths about the short-term expiration date on superficial black “coolness.”

        18. I think you grossly overestimate “black male bitterness”. Most black men who have dated white girls do not end up marrying black women and being “bitter”. You are a white knight who is defending the supposed honor and virtue of the white woman. If you look at the current feminist culture and marriage/ divorce laws you or any man for that matter who takes up for modern women is a fool. Many black men have no issue with being “fuck daddy’s” and used in that manner. It is far preferable than being a wage slave to that same white woman who is now out of her prime, used up, and is now demanding that the white male buy her a ring, house and finance her lifestyle. You have a lot to learn about life.

        19. “I think you grossly overestimate “black male bitterness”.”
          Can bitter chocolate ever be overestimated? Isn’t 100% raw organic cacao full of theobromine and anandamide?
          😉


        20. Many black men have no issue with being “fuck daddy’s” and used in that manner. 

          Well, indiscriminate rutting was one of your primary purposes for us originally. You know… historically speaking. Interesting to see that nothing’s changed.
          Of course, some men aspire to be something a bit more than a faceless fuck-toy for some damaged skank. Some men are, in fact, quite capable of more. Pity you don’t quite know what I’m talking about.

        21. Let me help you understand more clearly. These same white women who you think are ” off-limits and out of his league the whole time” many of them are having mutually enjoyable sex with black men during their prime years. When these years are over, because white males like you still believe in the Walt Disney 1950’s fairytale of your pure innocent white woman, she simply repackages herself and her image for you. Then you run to Tiffany and Co or Kay Jewelers and buy the 5-10k ring (sometimes much more), pay for the honeymoon and wedding, and the new home. Your racial bias is making you a SUCKER. Women have no loyalty to anything but money, power, sexual attraction and status. And if you think that black males do not offer this to white women or any other race of women in 2014, you are a fool.

        22. I love that you think I’m somehow white-knighting for women, when I’m more than aware of a woman’s true nature, and have commented to that effect both here and elsewhere throughout RoK.
          I love that you think you know so much about the way I view the world.
          I think it’s hilarious that we actually agree on the futility of marriage in the modern West but you’re too busy thumping your chest and playing “lemme school da white boy” to figure that out.
          Oh, and one thing, my dusky friend: those “Walt Disney 1950s” values you so readily mock served both of our people quite well up until the explosion of leftist indoctrination and entrenched vicitimology that the Sixties represented. If you fail to see why some men seek more from life than indiscriminate humping, then let me explain it this way: some of us actually seek to rise above the level of common alley cats.
          They tell me there was a time when many of your people aspired to the same. What happened?

        23. We agree on the futility of marriage in the modern West. However, many of your stereotypical generalizations about what black men want and how they ALL are so ridiculous that I had to challenge them. You should spend more of your time attacking the leftists and feminists and less on your silly rants against black males. I just had to correct some of the asinine comments you were making.

        24. You haven’t “corrected” or “challenged” shit. I don’t engage in “rants against black males” — I just speak from my own personal experience with them. And I don’t sugarcoat said experience to jibe with the constant “blacks are so cool and so real!” garbage you’ve been fed by leftist media since you were a rug-headed little squirt.
          Once again, you display that unique Negroidal trait in that you are completely incapable of looking inward at yourself or at your own community, and definitely incapable of stepping outside yourself for one second to perceive how someone looking at your ilk from the outside might see things.
          Nothing new here.
          But your arrogance in assuming that you’ve “corrected” my presumably “incorrect” opinions is high comedy, indeed.

        27. “Most black men realize that they’re seen as little more than an exotic “fuck Daddy” hook-up during a particularly rebellious or curious time in white women’s young lives. They come to realize, in time, that they’ve been sold a bill of goods as to the extent of white female enthusiasm for “da swirl’ — that said “swirl” often extends no further than a white woman’s cock-carousel years before she’s looking to scoop up some reliable, financially viable white beta for future-building.
          These black men realize this — that they’re largely no more than Mandingo fuck-toys for bored white sluts goig through a “try it all” phase.”
          This is all fair enough, but I can’t understand why you seem to assume that there is some sort of widespread black male bitterness about this. The situation you have put black men in as you’ve written this post is enviable: they get access to these women during the physical prime and don’t have to finance them after that point.
          It is absolutely true that white American women do not look favorably upon black men in general (exceptions exist) as long term relationship/marriage prospects, but why is that a bad thing? They had these women in their prime and can continue to get the next pool of younger women in their prime as the previous group ages out into marriage with a more reliable, “marriage-worthy” white male beta.
          The unenviable position that this “marriage-worthy” guy enters with this woman has been well documented in the manosphere. Yet here you are implying that a large number of black men are bitter about not being put in his position. Why would they be?
          Perhaps if you’re a black beta submerged in blue-pill delusion and totally unaware of the pitfalls associated with marriage (this would accurately describe myself 4 or 5 years ago) this reality would badly wound your ego. But if you’ve been exposed to even a minor dose of anything resembling red pill thought, you’d realize that the situation black males are in is better than that of their more “marriage-worthy” counterparts.
          So what is there to be bitter about? What is there for the “little black hamster” to spin and rationalize away?

        28. “Some men are, in fact, quite capable of more.”
          Like becoming the beta-provider for a woman beyond her prime who isn’t that into you sexually but has “had her fun” and needs you to finance her lifestyle and that of her 2.5 perfect children who she’ll likely proceed to take from you in divorce along with half of your assets and substantial monthly sums of capital in alimony?

        30. I can’t understand why you seem to assume that there is some sort of widespread black male bitterness about this.

          I have had multiple conversations with black males in which they’ve bemoaned the fact that they are, on average, held in lower esteem among various groups of women than white men (or even Latin men) are.
          I’ve heard these same black guys make bitter generalizations about my own ability to gain the attention of certain females, i.e. “oh, they always go easy on white guys.” Or “it’s probably because you have your own pad in Hollywood.” Right. Like there weren’t 15 million other guys in L.A. who could have flashed a far bigger bankroll than anything I had to offer. No, it had nothing to do with any game that I might have had, that I might have worked to achieve. It had nothing to do with anything about me that may have naturally attracted these women. It’s just ‘cuz I was white, and white skin — apparently, in these guys’ minds — was all it took to pull tail.
          Also, speaking in general, I detect a certain bitterness when I hear the way that some black men tend to denounce white women as a group. Including the old “white women age poorly” standby. It stands to reason that there might be some lingering bitterness since these same black guys would seem to dwell so much on how allegedly “undesirable” dem white hoez was — even though white girls made up at least half the number of women I ever saw them chasing.

          The unenviable position that this “marriage-worthy” guy enters with this woman has been well documented in the manosphere. Yet here you are implying that a large number of black men are bitter about not being put in his position. Why would they be?

          Well, of course, we agree that the poor put-upon beta who gets the “privilege” of wifing up some cock carousel-damaged slam-pig is a man that no one should envy.
          But, again, I’m referring to personal conversations I’ve had with black guys in various social circles who — though I’m sure they would have laughed and insisted otherwise if I had ever said this — seemed to be somewhat chastened by the gradual realization that the “black dick factor” only took them so far.
          One guy in particular that I knew (a friend of friends) was quite forward in expressing the gradual disinterest he had in merely being a throw-away fuck-toy for girls he thought he was getting to know; girls for whom he thought he might have held some sliver of allure as an actual human being, only to discover that — no — they weren’t introducing him to their circle of friends after however many months and they definitely weren’t introducing him to any of their family.
          There was a genuine unease there, with some of these guys, as they realized that they weren’t even in the running to be considered serious dating material for these white girls. As one guy succinctly put it: “oh, I’m good enough for her to hit up at 11:30 when ain’t nobody else answered her texts, but I ain’t good enough to go out to dinner with?”
          That’s what I’m referring to. It’s not envy of the put-upon white beta who winds up with 36 year-old used goods; it’s a discomfort with the big sexed-up Mandingo role they’re expected to fulfill — but never transcend.
          And this is still only a certain subset of young white females we’re talking about here. Black guys will never believe it, and maybe never understand it, but there is a large portion of white females out there who just don’t burn coal. It’s just not for them. I’ve found that this especially tends to be the case with girls who come from a more European background — there seems to be more of a grounding in culture and history with women who come from there.
          And my point is: whether they ever admit it or not, some black guys sense this “whites-only” club that they’re closed off to. And they resent it a little.

        36. Yes there is no dispute that black men are on average of a lower socio-economic class than white men. This gives white men a huge advantage in the dating game, because of the perception. This again I repeat is ON AVERAGE and MANY blacks are in the upper socio economic classes and are higher than many whites and people all over the world for that matter. Blacks in the higher socio economic class have no problem dating and being in relationships with white women
          Secondly, the black men you have spoken to are ill informed and uneducated about the true motivations and desires of women. They are beta male blue pill types who are looking for relationships with white women. They don’t understand that it is better to be on the alpha (fucking) side of the female dating equation versus the (beta) provider side of the dating equation. They still believe that modern women are actually worthy of investing time and being in relationships with. They will be forced to see reality at some point. Life experience is the the ONLY teacher in this regard.
          Thirdly, in cities all over the United States as well as in Europe you will see plenty of interracial relationships between black men and white women. Black men do not have to chase these women. London, UK is a prime example of this.

        39. “One guy in particular that I knew (a friend of friends) was quite forward in expressing the gradual disinterest he had in merely being a throw-away fuck-toy for girls he thought he was getting to know; girls for whom he thought he might have held some sliver of allure as an actual human being, only to discover that — no — they weren’t introducing him to their circle of friends after however many months and they definitely weren’t introducing him to any of their family.”
          I think what some black American men don’t realize is how “ghetto” some of them come across, even if they aren’t ghetto. (That’s why I recommend first and second generation Africans from Africa). American culture (I know, I know, an oxymoron) is already low class enough, and then you have the added ghetto culture which is the default mainstream pop culture here.
          So black American men: get rid of any vestiges of “ghetto” behavior you may have picked up from your cousins on the other side of town. That way you’ll only be acting as classless as the rest of the Americans. But it still might help.

        42. Why would anyone worry about insulting a lowly ni66er? They are already bottom of the barrel in society.

        43. 98-99% of American White women wouldn’t ever even touch a ni66er, let alone lay with the ape. And this isn’t only out of fear of catching niggeraids, it’s just the thought of laying with stinky apes that repulses them.

        44. Of course, once again, a ni66er is completely wrong. Ni66ers look 50 in their late thirties, age and die far sooner than their White human counterparts, while the more evolved Whites live to long ages and age beautifully.
          Once again, not fooling anyone little ni66er.

        46. Hardly any White women ever have long term plans for their little nigger ape pets. It is to rebel, to thumb their nose at social norms and standards. Most grow out of it or get slapped out of it before they can sh1t out another ape.

        47. The smart ones, obviously, are the ones who are wise enough to avoid the niggerapes altogether.

        48. No 66er males don’t have this choice you dream of, in which they can have any White woman they want. Everyone knows this full well and sees this on a daily basis. Most White women want nothing to do with the niggerapes. Ni66ers simy take whatever scraps they can steal from the White Man’s table.

        49. Wrong. Many of them, in fact most of them, won’t even look at a niggerape twice or get close to smell it’s stench.
          I’m not sure exactly where you are located, but in America, ni66ers are consistently acknowledged as by far the most unattractive, unsophisticated, and most subhuman of all. That?’s just how it is.

        51. Some White women, unfortunately, have been fooled and brainwashed into actually believing that ni66ers are actual fully evolved human beings when they clearly are not.

        53. “There was a genuine unease there, with some of these guys, as they realized that they weren’t even in the running to be considered serious dating material for these white girls. As one guy succinctly put it: “oh, I’m good enough for her to hit up at 11:30 when ain’t nobody else answered her texts, but I ain’t good enough to go out to dinner with?””
          This sounds like something a woman would say.
          I don’t deny that you’ve heard these complaints before. As I said in my previous post, I may have made similar complaints 4 or 5 years ago.
          The thing is that these complaints can only come from a very weak place. The men making them are generally deeply deluded blue-pillers who have white women on a pedestal and do not understand the pitfalls associated with marriage/LTRs. You seem to have met multiple examples of these men (they’re not THAT rare), though I would honestly contend that they do not constitute the majority of black men.
          It is my experience that this bitterness you speak of is not particularly widespread among blacks. Most are quite comfortable with the idea of being the “mandingo” and running through a large number of young white girls with the understanding that those girls will not be looking for a ring later on.
          “Black guys will never believe it, and maybe never understand it, but there is a large portion of white females out there who just don’t burn coal.”
          I not only believe it, but have documented it extensively on the Roosh V Forum. This is especially true in the USA, and it is not hard to understand at all given this nation’s history.
          My experiences and those of many other black men on RVF confirm that in the USA the quality and quantity of white women open to any sort of relationship with a typical black male is relatively limited. There is variation by location and social class, but in general this norm holds true.
          You can see this in celebrity culture as well. It is not terribly common to see elite white female celebrities seriously dating or even openly hooking up with black males. Kim Kardashian is the very rare exception to this rule. You don’t see many Miss USA’s or top American runway models running around on black mens’ arms.
          There is a reason for this: though much progress has been made, the fact is that the American public generally still doesn’t prefer to see their female icons in those kinds of relationships. An elite white celebrity female who is seen “burning coal” risks opening herself to an increased negative perception that can harm her socially and professionally.
          In Europe, however, this is less of an issue, and you will see more female celebrities who are elite in their respective countries (ex: Heidi Klum, Doutzen Kroes, Cheryl Cole, Helen Flanagan, etc) openly dating black men. They can do this in large part because their cultures tolerate it much more than American society does. It is my understanding that Canada is also more open, though this too varies by location (ex: the central provinces are more open than Greater Toronto).
          “I’ve found that this especially tends to be the case with girls who come from a more European background — there seems to be more of a grounding in culture and history with women who come from there.”
          This I can say with some certainty is quite false. As I noted above, European women are substantially more likely to take black men seriously in a sexual/romantic context than are white American women.
          The statistics bare this out. In the United Kingdom, blacks are able to marry-out at a much higher rate than they do in the US. Nearly half of Afro-Caribbean men in the UK eventually settle down with white women, and about a third of Afro-Caribbean women end up with white men. These numbers are more than double the rates of black intermarriage with whites in the USA.
          As an English-Caribbean myself (my mother is from London), I can confirm this anecdotally as well. Just about every male and female relative I have in Europe is married to a white European. It is much easier and much more common for black men and black women to date outside of their race in the UK and other European nations than it is in the US. Here, you rarely see black women seriously involved with white men. There, it is an everyday occurrence, and this is even more true with black men/white women.
          You can look at celebrity culture as an example as well, as we did above. American female celebrities very rarely do much publicly with black men, but the same is not the case in Europe. In the UK, top female models/actresses/singers are regularly seen on the arms of black men, especially athletes.
          Think about the sheer number of high profile black athletes in the USA’s most visible professional sports leagues (the NBA, the NFL) and ask yourself this: how many of them are or have recently been in relationships with relatively well known white female celebrities?
          There aren’t very many, are there? Kim Kardashian dated a few such men, but other than that not many examples come to mind, even if you dig down to the celebrity D-List. When these men are with white women (and they’re generally not), they are no-names. Pretty no-names, but no-names.
          There’s a reason for that: while pro athletes are generally considered good mating partners for young, pretty starlets the world over, the stigma against interracial dating here in the USA is strong enough to preclude such relationships from forming in substantial numbers between elite black male athletes and white female celebrities. Unions between these groups are much less common than you’d expect in the USA, and that’s a product of our culture.
          Head over to the UK and you’ll find a very different story. It is VERY common for very well known white female celebrities to get involved openly with black footballers (soccer players). The same is true in France and to a lesser extent in Germany and Italy (Balotelli has no limits). This too is a product of cultural differences.
          “Also, speaking in general, I detect a certain bitterness when I hear the way that some black men tend to denounce white women as a group. Including the old “white women age poorly” standby.”
          This is more of a statement of fact than it is a statement of bitterness.
          The fact is that, relative to other races of women, white women tend to show signs of aging earlier on. Why is this? A lack of melanin. Melanin protects against sun damage and makes the skin more durable and flexible. White Europeans lack melanin and, as a result, are more prone to wrinkling and to sun damage than those groups who have more of it. This is why they appear to “age faster”. This is true of Europeans in general, actually, not just white women. Its just a biological reality.
          Does this necessarily mean that white women are not worth pursuing? No, and men who try and use this to rationalize their unwillingness (or inability…or both) to get with white women are fooling nobody.
          In discussing this topic with a friend one day (an American of Nigerian descent), he put forward to me the theory that this thing with aging was one of nature’s great tradeoffs.
          White European women in their prime may, on average, peak higher than any other particular un-mixed race of women. The catch? They lose it a little earlier.
          African and Asian women in their prime may not, as a group, peak as high as white European women do. The catch? They’ll look younger for longer.
          He said that if you want the best of both worlds, you go get a Mulata or a Eurasian.
          It was an interesting theory, I think. To each their own, I guess.

        57. Blacks age at a rate *half* that of whites?!? Absurd. Point to three 60yo black women of your choosing who look comparable to three 30yo whites of mine “all else being equal”, i.e., no hard-living-and-drugging Lindsey Lohans on the low end, no plastic surgery queens on the high end.
          Seriously, get your eyes checked.

        58. Most are quite comfortable with the idea of being the “mandingo” and running through a large number of young white girls with the understanding that those girls will not be looking for a ring later on.

          Playing the “Mandingo” role is one of only a handful of roles that most black males seem genuinely comfortable playing. Funny how “middle-class provider” or “dedicated student” or “educated contributor to society” don’t often seem to be among them. And, anyway, what does such eagerness to be sexually used by a small minority of whites say about those black men? Is it something to crow about or does it say something rather unflattering about the self-worth and limited mindsets of these men?

          You don’t see many Miss USA’s or top American runway models running around on black mens’ arms.
          There is a reason for this: though much progress has been made, the fact is that the American public generally still doesn’t prefer to see their female icons in those kinds of relationships.

          Or, you know, it could also simply be the result of certain women’s personal preferences.
          I mean, I know it’s hard to believe this, what with the “every white girl secretly craves black dick” narrative that our debauched leftist culture supports, but… most whites (and non-blacks, in general) simply don’t find themselves attracted to black physical features. I mean, does there have to be an elaborate sociological reason for every white girl at da club who didn’t want to hook up with you?

          This I can say with some certainty is quite false. As I noted above, European women are substantially more likely to take black men seriously in a sexual/romantic context than are white American women.

          And I can say, with just as much certainty, that your assertions are indeed false.
          While I don’t deny the prevalence of interracial mating within your circles or within those of your family’s, you’re making the same mistake that many blacks make in regard to whites. And that mistake is this: you’re forgetting that your exposure to whites is, in general, far less — and far less varied — than that of other whites. You’re often far too quick to assume that’s what true for your relatively limited pool of white friends/girlfriends/acquaintances must automatically be true for the greater majority.
          In other words: the kind of white women that are willing to date blacks would naturally be the kind of white women that you and your friends would be exposed to — as opposed to, say, those who have no desire to be around blacks or those who simply have nothing in common with them and, thus, choose to pursue social relations with their fellow whites or members of other ethnic groups. Makes sense, right?

          You can see this in celebrity culture as well.

          You don’t see many Miss USA’s or top American runway models

          In Europe, however, this is less of an issue, and you will see more female celebrities

          It is VERY common for very well known white female celebrities to get involved openly with black footballers

          I’m noticing a pattern here. By and large, you seem to be relying far too much upon the depictions of mainstream celebrity culture to be your guide as to what is or isn’t going on in the realm of race relations.
          And I’m not doubting any of the things that you’ve stated, or any of your personal experiences or anecdotes, for that matter. I’m well aware, after all, of the way that white girls are programmed by media indoctrination to seek the “cool black alpha male.” But what I’m saying is: what you read in magazines and see depicted on television is — as we all know — often a conscious or semi-conscious shaping of reality, rather than an unbiased, agenda-free depiction of reality as it actually stands.
          You don’t have to school me on what’s going on in Europe, my friend. I happen to be of both Mediterranean and Slavic origin, with personal family connections to “the old country.” And I’ve done my share of traveling there. I can tell you, with utmost certainty, that the vast majority of women in those cultures aren’t “secretly craving” their own personal Mandingo, nor do they seem to entertain any sort of fixation with interracial dalliances.
          What I’m telling you is something that you already know, regardless of how quick the media is to tell you otherwise, regardless of how reluctant black males might be to publicly admit it: most white women, whether in North America or in Europe, are attracted to their own. More to the point, the vast majority of white women, whether in North America or in Europe, show no overwhelming attraction to black physical features or, indeed, black males in general.

        59. I didn’t say half. I said healthy blacks hit their wall around 60. Let’s be more liberal with that number and say upper 50s. Whites, due to their skin type, hit their facial wall around 30. There have been numerous articles and comments on this site and sites like it that state as much and I agree. So if a 35 year old black man dated a 15 year old white girl (that’s a 20 year difference), when he is 50 and she is 30 they will look more or less around the same age.
          I attended a Christmas party last night where I assumed the very fit hostess was early 20s from the back of her. She turned around and I immediately placed her at 40 minimum. A very fit 40-something, but 40 something nonetheless. Her husband could have been no older than 21 and I thought “Dayum this cougar thing is for real folks. You go girl!”
          Turns out she’s 27 and he’s 34. You can guess which one was chocolate and which one vanilla.
          No judgement here. Humans are worth so much more than the appearance of their facial skin. Its character that truly matters.
          Merry Christmas!

        60. Those girls are porn prostitutes who get paid for these perverted acts, not real white women. Females who will degrade themselves for $50

        61. You’re either a queer fagola or boobette who likes to mock normal people. You don’t know what sex you are.

        63. “And, anyway, what does such eagerness to be sexually used by a small minority of whites say about those black men? Is it something to crow about or does it say something rather unflattering about the self-worth
          and limited mindsets of these men?”
          Are you seriously in the manosphere asking this question?
          The lack of desire to get a ring and/or become a provider for a given set of women says nothing about a man’s self worth. There is nothing special about becoming a “middle-class provider” for these women and refusing to do so says nothing “unflattering” about a given male.
          We’re not women, dude. Some guys just want to get laid and they’d like to do so with women in their prime ABSENT the obligation to finance those women later in their lives when they’ve “had their fun” and are looking to settle.
          Also, what “small minority”? The number of young white women who go through this “experimental” phase you talk about and are willing to “try new things” discreetly with black men in their physical prime is much larger than a “small minority”. That’s a significant minority at least, if not a slight majority. Young white coeds willing to “experiment” interracially (so long as relatively few folks find out and there is no promise of having to commit to that man and/or have his children) are not rare any more.
          The number of women willing to go beyond that experimenting and get serious with these black men? That is your “small minority”.
          “Or, you know, it could also simply be the result of certain women’s personal preferences.”
          In some cases it is.
          For the majority, however, it is more complicated than that.
          “I mean, does there have to be an elaborate sociological reason for every white girl at da club who didn’t want to hook up with you?”
          No, not for every one. However, I do find it strange that you give “cultural programming” a lot of credit for alleged black male delusions about their desirability to white American women, but you deny that it could have any substantial effect on the romantic choices white women make.
          And you do all of this while you are in the manosphere, a corner of the internet in which the herd mentality of many females (their general susceptibility to certain forms of media/marketing propaganda and programming) has been discussed ad nauseum.
          You’ve spoken about a lot of “hamsters” in this thread. I don’t deny that they exist. Your own small, fluffy rodent seems to be waking up as well.
          “While I don’t deny the prevalence of interracial mating within your circles or within those of your family’s, you’re making the same mistake that many blacks make in regard to whites. And that mistake is this: you’re forgetting that your exposure to whites is, in general, far
          less — and far less varied — than that of other whites.
          You’re often far too quick to assume that what’s true for your relatively limited pool of white friends/girlfriends/acquaintances must automatically be true for the greater majority.”
          Just a couple of things here:
          1. The conclusions I made are based on actual statistics, not just my own personal experience. It is a statistical fact that Afro-Caribbean men and women in the UK are substantially more likely to marry interracially than their African-American peers. I mentioned these stats in my prior post (you ignored them), so I will quote them again with a link this time:
          http://www.bbc.co.uk/caribbean/news/story/2009/01/090119_mixedrace.shtml
          “About half of men with Caribbean backgrounds in Britain is in a relationship with a partner of a different race.
          That statistic is part of a new study which shows the UK population becoming increasingly racially motivated.
          The report shows that one in 10 British children is now part of a mixed-race family.
          The study predicts that if current trends continue, some ethnic minorities may disappear as people from mixed race backgrounds become increasingly common.
          Ethnicity and Family: Relationships Within and Between Ethnic Groups was commissioned by the Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC), which grew out of the former Commission for Race Equality.
          It shows some ethnic groups are much more likely to have mixed-race relationships.
          Figures show 48 percent of Black Caribbean men and 34 percent of Black Caribbean women are in mixed-race relationships.”
          2. You’re making VERY large assumptions about me, my family, and the size/nature of our “pool” of white friends/peers/acquaintances. There is a very good chance that my exposure (and that of my family) to European whites (at least the western European ones; I’ll make no contention with regard to the Slavs or Meds from which you claim descent as I have no personal or familial experience with them) is as great or greater than your own. Many of us were born and raised there – I’m not pulling these statements out of my posterior.
          “I’m noticing a pattern here. By and large, you seem to be relying far too much upon the depictions of mainstream celebrity culture to be your guide as to what is or isn’t going on in the realm of race relations.”
          I’m not relying on mere depictions created by celebrities (though those count as well). I’m actually watching their personal lives and what is/isn’t considered acceptable in their respective societies. This is a very useful proxy for what a society deems acceptable: the market dictates what can and cannot be successfully fed to the populace.
          In the USA, you do not see very many depictions of black male/white female relationships on popular mainstream movies/TV shows or in commercials. You do not see many of the well known celebrities who participate in these commercials openly getting involved with black people.
          Why? People (black, white or otherwise) don’t really want to see it. What you said about whites is correct in the American context: white Americans (particularly white American women, who drive most of the demand for American media and are most heavily catered to by them) are not that big on interracial pairings.
          In the USA, white men want to see pretty white girls, and white women want to see handsome white men. The media gets that, so it doesn’t force feed them said pairings and the celebrities avoid them. The media gives them what they do want to see (good looking white people who are disproportionately blonde) instead.
          In the UK, there is a greater appetite and tolerance for interracial pairings. This is why you see more of them on television and in the personal lives of public figures.
          These are not coincidences.
          “But what I’m saying is: what you read in magazines and see depicted on television is — as we all know — often a conscious or semi-conscious shaping of reality, rather than an unbiased, agenda-free depiction of reality as it actually stands.”
          Media portrayals also often play to popular cultural norms/biases that are already present and seek to exploit them for financial gain.
          In the case of the American media, there is already a strong cultural norm/bias against interracial dating, especially when it involves black men and white women. The media here merely accepts and abides by that as it minimizes its depiction of those relationships; that’s not a “shaping of reality”, it is a response to that reality as it exists on the ground.
          You can see the same issue when it comes to the presence of blacks (or lack thereof) in leading roles in mainstream TV and Film. The media understands that when too many black characters appear in a given film/show, it gets labelled a “black show”. They also understand that productions tagged with that label do not tend to be received well by non-black audiences, especially white ones.
          http://colorlines.com/archives/2011/07/study_finds_white_people_dont_watch_black_movies.html
          It is for this reason that they are careful not to cast too many blacks in many mainstream movies/shows, and only a handful of black men are able to operate as leads in Hollywood. They are responding to the cultural biases on the ground, not shaping them.
          Non-hispanic whites are also overrepresented in Hollywood. They get something like 85% of the work there despite being just over 70% of the US population (and declining). Blondes are far more common in Hollywood than they are in mainstream America.
          Is this because the American media is trying to “shape” our perception of whites and blondes in a more favorable way? Is it just a propaganda tool?
          No. Hollywood is just giving America what it wants to see, and that is good looking white people.
          The media can have a role as an active propaganda/programming tool, but it also has a very practical side that cannot be ignored. Much of it is actually based on just giving people what they want.
          What do Americans want? White people, preferably in relationships with other white people.
          “You don’t have to school me on what’s going on in Europe, my friend. I happen to be of both Mediterranean and Slavic origin, with personal family connections to “the old country.” And I’ve done my share of traveling there. I can tell you, with utmost certainty, that the vast majority of women in those cultures aren’t “secretly craving” their own personal Mandingo, nor do they seem to entertain any sort of fixation with interracial dalliances.”
          I can’t speak to the Slavs, but I can speak to the UK, Germany, France, The Netherlands and Scandinavia via my own family heritage, personal experiences and links to theses places. I can say, with the utmost certainty, that there is greater tolerance for interracial relationships there than there is here in the USA. Does that mean that “the vast majority” of the women in these places are “secretly craving their own Mandingo” or maintaining a “fixation with interracial dalliances”? Not necessarily. It just means that they’re more open to interracial unions than your typical American. That goes for the women AND the men.
          “What I’m telling you is something that you already know, regardless of how quick the media is to tell you otherwise, regardless of how reluctant black males might be to publicly admit it: most white women, whether in North America or in Europe, are attracted to their own. More
          to the point, the vast majority of white women, whether in North America or in Europe, show no overwhelming attraction to black physical features or, indeed, black males in general.”
          1. Which media is telling me what? The American media certainly isn’t giving the impression that white women are not “attracted to their own”, nor does it imply that there is some sort of overwhelming attraction within them toward black men. Even the UK media (with its greater willingness to portray interracial relationships) isn’t telling anyone these things.
          2. Where did I imply that most white women anywhere were NOT “attracted to their own”? It is widely accepted here and in the rest of the manosphere that most humans are attracted to those of similar ethnic/genetic origin to themselves.

        65. I see none here in US or in Moscow or rest of Europe. Only whore girl Krocodil junkie go with nignog

        66. Black african very low class and brain. Very boring boys with small shem.If they make money it from bouncing ball around like little boy and people laugh on them behind back and think durak. Girls flatter them and then take their money and run away and leave them with dick hanging blowing in wind.

        68. That is your future grand daughter: you’ve just seen the future! how do you like them apples? Hahahahaha

        69. telling yourself that… makes you feel better?
          you are a loser.
          Ask how many snow white hot babes are riding black basketball player’s cock.

        70. The lack of desire to get a ring and/or become a provider for a given set of women says nothing about a man’s self worth. There is nothing special about becoming a “middle-class provider” for these women

          I’ve said nothing of the sort. You’re misreading me. What I’m actually driving at is apparent in the first two sentences of my previous response to you, when I said:

          Playing the “Mandingo” role is one of only a handful of roles that most black males seem genuinely comfortable playing. Funny how “middle-class provider” or “dedicated student” or “educated contributor to society” don’t often seem to be among them.

          To continue with your responses:

          The number of young white women who go through this “experimental” phase you talk about and are willing to “try new things” discreetly with black men in their physical prime is much larger than a “small minority”. That’s a significant minority at least, if not a slight majority.

          To-may-to. To-mah-to. Sure, we could argue semantics all day. The fact remains as I’ve originally stated: the vast majority of white women, whether in the States or abroad, prefer their own men. And allow me to further clarify: I am not speaking of this only in terms of committed relationships/marriage. I am also referring to good old-fashioned hook-ups and ONS’s. The vast majority of white women not only prefer their own men for serious relationships, but they are also primarily physically attracted to their own — and actively seek sexual encounters with their own.

          I do find it strange that you give “cultural programming” a lot of credit for alleged black male delusions about their desirability to white American women, but you deny that it could have any substantial effect on the romantic choices white women make.

          Again, you’re misreading me. I don’t deny that it has a substantial effect on the romantic choices that confused young white girls make. Quite the opposite: I firmly believe that young white girls’ fuzzy little lemming hindbrains have undoubtedly been influenced by the prevalence of the “cool black alpha male” archetype, as perpetuated by the media. Any attraction that a white female may have toward black males is almost wholly manufactured, and rarely ever seems to spring up on its own, especially when you have a blooming, vibrant European-American culture that hasn’t been weighed down with silly, liberalism-induced white guilt about things that no one alive today can claim any responsibility for. Point out to me where I’ve made a statement denying any of this.

          Hollywood is just giving America what it wants to see, and that is good looking white people.

          What do Americans want? White people, preferably in relationships with other white people.

          Well, here we can certainly agree. Which is why I believe that black-white mixing is, by and large, unnatural and almost completely guided by outside forces. See my above comment.

          I can speak to the UK, Germany, France, The Netherlands and Scandinavia via my own family heritage, personal experiences and links to theses places. I can say, with the utmost certainty, that there is greater tolerance for interracial relationships there than there is here in the USA.

          I’m not actually denying this. I’m well aware, for example, of the plethora of black writers and artists who fled America for warmer, more accepting pastures abroad and found themselves with no shortage of European lovers and admirers — Nina Simone, Jospehine Baker, James Baldwin, Melvin Van Peebles, jazz trumpeter Don Cherry (Neneh Cherry’s father), etc. This — again, however — does not come close to constituting a large number of whites abroad. Europe is more accepting of this — in general. Yes. However, Europe also features whites who aren’t nearly as removed from their heritage as American whites are — this closeness to one’s roots accounts for the desire of the majority of European white women to engage with men of their own cultural/racial background.
          There is a very good chance that my exposure (and that of my family) to European whites (at least the western European ones; I’ll make no contention with regard to the Slavs or Meds from which you claim descent as I have no personal or familial experience with them) is as great or greater than your own.
          Sure. And I grew up in various mixed/black neighborhoods. (Before robberies and the assorted hassles of being one of the few white families left in a sea of black cultural dysfunction smartened us all up and sent us packing for a Whitopia in the ‘burbs.) So I suppose that makes me an expert Negro-ologist… right?

        72. “I’ve said nothing of the sort. You’re misreading me.”
          I do not think I am. You implied that black males are not comfortable playing the following roles: “middle-class provider” or “dedicated student” or “educated contributor to society”. You claimed that they ARE comfortable playing the “Mandingo” before asking the following question:
          “what does such eagerness to be sexually used by a small minority of whites say about those black men? Is it something to crow about or does it say something rather unflattering about the self-worth and limited
          mindsets of these men?”
          This implies that black male willingness to play the “mandingo” role (which involves being “sexually used” by white women with no high likelihood of long term future investment/relationships) and their comfort in doing so indicates low self-worth and a limited mindset, especially when combined with their inability/unwillingness to play the other roles you mentioned.
          These implications seem pretty obvious to me. If they’re not as you intended, then perhaps you should consider wording your statements more carefully or elaborating more explicitly on your actual intentions.
          “To-may-to. To-mah-to. Sure, we could argue semantics all day.”
          You can. I’m not going to.
          “Again, you’re misreading me. I don’t deny that it has a substantial effect on the romantic choices that confused young white girls make.”
          You do when it is convenient for you.
          You claim that cultural programming is fully capable of pushing white girls TOWARD black men, but completely discount any larger cultural/media forces that may push them AWAY from black men and TOWARD white men.
          These forces are obvious to most of us (ex: the lack of interracial relationship promotion in media, the continued status of white males as the dominant sex symbols in Hollywood and in music, the lack of highly visible black men in leading Hollywood/TV roles, etc, etc), but they do not factor into your analysis at all. For you, this is a one-way street.
          “Any attraction that a white female may have toward black males is almost wholly manufactured”
          This is what you wish to be the case, not what actually is.
          The reality is this: interracial attraction exists in humanity and is not unnatural. This goes not only for white women and black men, but for white men looking at non-white women and other non-whites looking at each other. It also explains (in part) why so many people across the globe find white women attractive.
          Interracial attraction within the human race does exist naturally and is not rare – there is, in fact, some scientific evidence backing the notion that genetic novelty can be appealing in and of itself and that this has contributed to the spread of recessive traits (ex: blue eyes) and some degree of blending of different ethnic/racial groups throughout history.
          This notion that any existing attraction between people of different racial groups must necessarily be “wholly manufactured” is patently absurd. Attraction between white women and black men can easily develop naturally, just as attraction between white men can easily develop a natural attraction to Asian women and Asian men can easily develop a natural attraction to white women.
          “Sure. And I grew up in various mixed/black neighborhoods. (Before robberies and the assorted hassles of being one of the few white families left in a sea of black cultural dysfunction smartened us all up and sent us packing for a Whitopia in the ‘burbs.) So I suppose that makes me an expert Negro-ologist… right?”
          You might have more insight into inner-city/urban black American culture than some foreign blacks who may share sub-saharan African ancestry with the residents of those neighborhoods but a) have never lived among them and b) have no close personal/family connections to those people or those areas.

        75. When I said you misread me, I was referring to this:

          The lack of desire to get a ring and/or become a provider for a given set of women says nothing about a man’s self worth. There is nothing special about becoming a “middle-class provider” for these women

          Which is an assertion I never actually made.

          perhaps you should consider wording your statements more carefully or elaborating more explicitly on your actual intentions.

          I’ve worded my statements and elaborated upon my intentions quite clearly throughout this exchange. The problem is my odd insistence on trying to force logic to penetrate the skull of a black race troll with a chip on his shoulder the size of Vermont. It’s not unlike trying to argue with a logic. Or attempting to teach a cat to play a Stradivarius.
          At least the cat would be more entertaining, and the female more pleasant to deal with.

        76. “Which is an assertion I never actually made.”
          No, it is just one you very strongly implied as you went about lamenting the fact that blacks cannot/will not occupy certain roles before proceeding to question their self-worth for refusing to do so and preferring to be the “mandingo” instead.
          “I’ve worded my statements and elaborated upon my intentions quite clearly throughout this exchange.”
          No you haven’t.
          “The problem is my odd insistence on trying to force logic to penetrate the skull of a black race troll with a chip on his shoulder the size of Vermont.”
          You don’t have any “logic” to force on any one. You’ve got the senseless, transparent rationalizations of a typical white nationalist and all of the insecurities that come with that. Your “logic” consists of one rationalization after another.
          It’s silly to become a provider for these women…yet somehow black male unwillingness to do so implies something “unflattering” about them and their character.
          The media doesn’t put a lot of IR couples or black men on screen and still holds the white male up as the ideal hero, leader and lover. Despite this, you insist that the media must certainly be pushing white women toward black men. It couldn’t be doing the reverse! Its refusal to promote many IR couples on screen or hold many black men up in leading tv/movie roles as heroes, lovers and leaders couldn’t possibly have a NEGATIVE impact on their perception of black men, could it? No, not in your mind – your own rationalization hamster only sees a media conspiracy when it is convenient to the point you wish to argue for (that any white female attraction to black men is unnatural and must be manufactured by some larger conspiracy).
          Interracial unions have been taking place to some significant degree globally for centuries. We have clear evidence that many different groups can build a natural attraction toward others: non-white men toward white women (an attraction you’ve championed in this thread as evidence of white female superiority as standards of beauty), white men toward Asian women, white men toward black women, etc, etc. Yet you want to argue that the attraction of white women toward black men specifically cannot occur naturally and MUST be manufactured. And you want us to take this blatantly transparent, self-serving rationalization seriously?
          You challenge the validity of the conclusions I’ve made based on my exposure to whites, arguing that it must be more limited than yours. You argued that what was true for my “relatively small pool” of family/friends was not true broadly. Yet you began this segment of the conversation by making a broad assertion (that black men are generally quite bitter about not being in white womans’ long term plans) based on your own exposure to blacks, which couldn’t be any more substantial than my exposure to whites. It is ok for you to make broad conclusions about blacks based on “limited” interracial contact, but I can’t make broad conclusions about whites (particularly western European whites) based on similar contact?
          I could go on with these examples. Suffice it to say that your body of work in this comment thread doesn’t have a logical bone in it.
          “At least the cat would be more entertaining, and the female more pleasant to deal with.”
          Then how about you quit wasting everyone’s time here on this blog with your “logic” (or lack thereof) and go a) get laid and b) play with your cat?
          I think we’ll both be better for it.

        77. As usual, Bright Boy, you’re responding partially to things that I’ve actually said, and partially to shadow assertions made by that raving white nationalist bogeyman that exists solely in your mind — the one that apparently looms over your fragile, grievance-infested psyche like a Klan-robed Godzilla stomping through the streets of downtown Atlanta.

          It’s silly to become a provider for these women…

          I agree. Which is why I never actually said that black men should be trying to settle down with or support white carousel-riders. Read back through what I’ve written — nowhere did I actually state that Tre’Vonte and Demarius should strive to become beta-simp providers for washed-up 37 year-old Becky Lynns and Samanthas.
          What I was referring to was black male reluctance to seek any sort higher function as men in the aggregate. I was referring to the way that large numbers of black men seem consistently unwilling — or unable — to provide stability and support within their own community, to their own children, to the (largely) black mothers of their children. Certainly, you can’t be unaware of the sky-high rates of illegitimacy and fatherlessness within the black community — not all of which can be conveniently laid at the feet of feminism and black-female hypergamy.
          Some links? Why, certainly:
          “Blacks struggle with 72 percent unwed mothers rate”
          http://www.nbcnews.com/id/39993685/ns/health-womens_health/t/blacks-struggle-percent-unwed-mothers-rate/#.UrIbJuIsyME
          “The math on Black out of wedlock births” — in which black writer Ta-Nehisi Coates of The Atlantic discusses his take on why “70 percent” of black children are born out of wedlock:
          http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2009/02/the-math-on-black-out-of-wedlock-births/6738/
          “Whose [sic] to Blame for Black Failure?” — in which black conservative Ron Christie discusses the issue:

          And so on.
          What does all this have to do with the points I made? Quite simply, it’s this: you — and others like you — blame raaaay-cism and your favorite old stand-by “white nationalism” for the low opinion that society tends to hold of black males — and for the fact that so many whites (though, it’s certainly not just whites) tend to look unfavorably upon the idea of their women shacking up with, or possibly even settling down with black men.
          And yet, when you look at the startling patterns of dysfunctional behavior that many black men seem programmed to engage in — are you really being intellectually honest with yourself when you insist that white reluctance to the idea of black-white pairings is due solely to…

          broad conclusions about blacks based on “limited” interracial contact

          …or…

          blatantly transparent, self-serving rationalization[s]

          …?
          It just seems to me that if these black men put half as much energy into bettering themselves, and sticking around to guide the next generation of black men, as they put into chasing used-up white pussy, then African-American males as a group just might be better off. If these “playaz” actually aspired to rise above their perennial low-on-the-totem-pole status as choco-covered playthings for the amusement of a subset of white Americans… if they actually aspired to the standards laid down by their elders generations ago, and strove to contribute something to society other than astronomical rates of HIV infection and violent-crime stats far out of proportion to their actual percentage of the population, then maybe — just maybe — they wouldn’t be looked upon by so many as the scourge of Western society.
          And maybe then — just maybe — they might be considered by the non-black women of America as suitable for something other than secret, late-night pump-and-dumps.
          And maybe then — since the spending habits of the American public is the only call that Hollywood heeds — you might see more TV shows and movies featuring stable interracial relationships between dashing, ebony Dudley Do-Rights and their Nordic arm candy. Maybe then, you might see more black males represented in mainstream media as

          the ideal hero, leader and lover.

          But, no, you’d rather point the finger at allegedly spineless whites who — according to you — refuse to get with changing times and would rather nurse their wounded white-nationalist egos in the warm, foamy water of “senseless, transparent rationalizations.”

          The media doesn’t put a lot of IR couples or black men on screen and still holds the white male up as the ideal hero, leader and lover.

          This, like everything else you write, can be easily disputed with the usual series of links and references. But let’s assume for a moment that you’re absolutely right. Let’s assume that this is 100% true. Can it be blamed on white-male refusal to share the spotlight with their sepia-hued friends over on the other side of the tracks, or could it simply be a function of the condition that you’ve already discussed, which is that:

          People (black, white or otherwise) don’t really want to see it.

          …and that…

          white Americans (particularly white American women, who drive most of the demand for American media and are most heavily catered to by them) are not that big on interracial pairings.

          …?
          You know, kid, when you’re not busy talking out of both sides of your mouth, you actually stumble over bits and pieces of the truth now and again. Too bad you’re so willing to drown that truth out with the incessant squeaking of your fuzzy black hamster grinding tirelessly away…

          You’ve got the senseless, transparent rationalizations of a typical white nationalist and all of the insecurities that come with that.

          I see. Well, don’t tell my cross-burning brothers down at the lodge but I’m a pretty odd sort for a white nationalist, seeing as how I spent most of my time in L.A. either dating, banging or chasing after Asian and Latin women. Shhhhh. I’m fascinated that you know so much about me, however. Tell me, when does my biography come out?

          Then how about you quit wasting everyone’s time here on this blog with your “logic” (or lack thereof) and go a) get laid and b) play with your cat?

          This entire piece that you wrote was a waste of everyone’s time — as is much of the transparently bitter race trolling with which you stink up whatever corners of RoK and the Roosh V Forum that you tend to occupy. You put this steaming heap of rationalizations out there of your own accord; don’t try to shame away those who get a kick out of sticking their fists through the holes in your sterling Negro logic.

        78. “As usual, Bright Boy, you’re responding partially to things that I’ve actually said”

          I’m responding entirely to what you said. You’re free to continue to deny having said (or implied) it if you wish. Its all up there for people to read.

          “Which is why I never actually said that black men should be trying to settle down with or support white carousel-riders.”

          No, you just strongly implied it.
          That’s ok, keep denying it. I won’t stop you.

          “are you really being intellectually honest with yourself when you insist that white reluctance to the idea of black-white pairings is due
          solely to…
          broad conclusions about blacks based on “limited” interracial contact
          …or…
          blatantly transparent, self-serving rationalization[s]
          …?”

          I’m pretty sure I never said that white reluctance to support black-white pairings was due solely to either of those factors. I wrote those quotes in direct reference to YOUR conclusions/arguments and their formulation, not to whites in general.
          Here these quotes are in context, for the record:

          “You challenge the validity of the conclusions I’ve made based on my exposure to whites, arguing that it must be more limited than yours. You argued that what was true for my “relatively small pool” of family/friends was not true broadly. Yet you began this segment of the
          conversation by making a broad assertion (that black men are generally quite bitter about not being in white womans’ long term plans) based on your own exposure to blacks, which couldn’t be any more substantial than my exposure to whites. It is ok for you to make broad conclusions about blacks based on “limited” interracial contact, but I can’t make broad conclusions about whites (particularly western European whites) based on similar contact?

          And:

          Interracial unions have been taking place to some significant degree globally for centuries. We have clear evidence that many different groups can build a natural attraction toward others: non-white men toward white women (an attraction you’ve championed in this thread as evidence of white female superiority as standards of beauty), white men toward Asian women, white men toward black women, etc, etc. Yet you want to argue that the attraction of white women toward black men specifically cannot occur naturally and MUST be manufactured. And you want us to take this blatantly transparent, self-serving rationalization seriously?

          Now that you can see these words in context, it becomes clear that I never actually insisted that white hostility to blacks was sourced SOLELY from either of those sources. You created that claim out of thin air by taking my quotes entirely out of context and using them to create a red herring.
          Precisely the kind of dishonesty I’d expect from a WN and/or similar ilk.

          “I’m a pretty odd sort for a white nationalist, seeing as how I spentmost of my time in L.A. either dating, banging or chasing after Asian
          and Latin women.”

          That attraction must have been forced upon you, manufactured by some sort of larger cultural force/bias/agenda. That’s how all interracial attraction works, isn’t it? I mean, white women could never naturally find any black man attractive according to you so, surely, it is impossible for you to maintain any sort of natural draw to non-white Latinas and Asians.
          For the record, I’ve known plenty of highly hypocritical WN. They love to fuck non-white women, but don’t like the idea of non-white men fucking with white girls, especially when those men are black. That’s typical.

          It just seems to me that if these black men put half as much energy into bettering themselves, and sticking around to guide the next generation of black men, as they put into chasing used-up white pussy, then African-American males as a group just might be better off. If these “playaz” actually aspired to rise above their perennial low-on-the-totem-pole status as choco-covered playthings for the amusement of a subset of white Americans… if they actually aspired to the standards laid down by their elders generations ago, and strove to contribute something to society other than astronomical rates of HIV infection and violent-crime stats far out of proportion to their actual percentage of the population, then maybe — just maybe — they wouldn’t be looked upon by so many as the scourge of Western society.
          And maybe then — just maybe — they might be considered by the non-black women of America as suitable for something other than secret, late-night pump-and-dumps.
          And maybe then — since the spending habits of the American public is the only call that Hollywood heeds — you might see more TV shows and movies featuring stable interracial relationships between dashing, ebony Dudley Do-Rights and their Nordic arm candy. Maybe then, you might see more black males represented in mainstream media as
          the ideal hero, leader and lover.
          But, no, you’d rather point the finger at allegedly spineless whites who — according to you — refuse to get with changing times and would rather nurse their wounded white-nationalist egos in the warm, foamy water of “senseless, transparent rationalizations.”

          Sure, dude, it’s only black behavior that’s causing issues, nothing else.
          Because whites had nothing to do with the rise of some of these negative trends in black america, right? They didn’t create the welfare system that disincentivized normal black family formations or the discriminatory GI Bill that kept blacks out of suburbia (the engine behind the wealth generation that created the modern white middle class) and prevented those blacks who “aspired to better themselves” from actually doing so. They didn’t funnel drugs into black communities or create discriminatory drug laws that led to unnecessarily harsher sentences for black drug users (exasperating the breakdown of black families noted above). No, white America was giving the blacks a helping hand this entire time – the blacks just can’t seem to act right. Why don’t they get it?
          After all, blacks were all over mainstream television before the rise of the modern drug trade in inner city communities. There were plenty of black male leads in major Hollywood films prior to the early 80’s when most of the major ills you reference (skyrocketing HIV rates, rising violent crime, etc) took hold, and interracial couplings were downright common. There were definitely more black males in the mainstream media being portrayed as the “ideal hero, leader and lover” in the 60’s, 70’s and very early 80’s than there are today. That makes sense, since blacks were acting better then!
          Those elders whose standards you claim modern blacks should be aspiring to – the ones who worked so hard to contribute to modern society in a positive way – were treated with much less reluctance/hostility by white Americans, weren’t they? Those years prior to 1960 offered excellent examples of positive, non-antagonistic black-white relations, yes? Interracial dating was more common statistically then than it is now after blacks started acting up.
          So there is clearly a historical precedent for what you’re saying: all blacks have to do is “act right”, and everything will be ok, just like it was before 1960!
          Sarcasm aside, I agree that black people need to take a serious look at their community and themselves. I think some of my previous articles (regarding Black America becoming the future and the Trayvon incident) on this website make that clear. I will not, however, co-sign this ridiculous notion you’re presenting here that all (or even most) white hostility to and/or reluctance to associate with blacks is completely rational, associated entirely with black behavior and disassociated entirely from longstanding notions of white social, moral and biological supremacy (notions that were written into the law of this land until about 50 years ago).
          Blacks could start “acting right” en masse tomorrow and still get plenty of crap from non-blacks. The antagonism between racial groups in the modern US goes way deeper than the behavior of “modern playaz”.
          You want to call me a “race hustler” for saying that? You think that’s the work of a “fuzzy black hamster” or a “big chip” on my shoulder?
          I gives not a fuck. The truth is the truth, and I’m not going to ignore it just to assuage your ego.

          The media doesn’t put a lot of IR couples or black men on screen and still holds the white male up as the ideal hero, leader and lover.
          This, like everything else you write, can be easily disputed with the usual series of links and references.

          You can’t dispute reality.

          This entire piece that you wrote was a waste of everyone’s time — as is much of the transparently bitter race trolling with which you stink up whatever corners of RoK and the Roosh V Forum that you tend to occupy. You put this steaming heap of rationalizations out there of your own accord; don’t try to shame away those who get a kick out of sticking their fists through the holes in your sterling Negro logic.

          “sterling Negro logic”? Seriously?
          You WN are all the same.
          Sorry for wasting your precious time. Surely you have more important things to do. Go get laid and play with your cat, bro. I won’t stand in your way.

        79. Surely you have more important things to do. Go get laid and play with your cat, bro.

          Well, let’s see. You’ve responded to me in this debate as much as I’ve responded to you — and with an equal amount of conviction and long-windedness. So, by your own rationale, wouldn’t your “go get laid” — with its implications of a guy who has nothing better to do than argue with strangers over the internet — apply to you as well?

        80. I’ve been content to spend plenty of time here responding to those who question me. I don’t consider that a waste of time.
          You, on the other hand, have insisted that this entire blog post and every response you’ve written to it is, indeed, a waste of time, and you’d be better served playing with a cat or dealing with a woman.
          With that in mind, I made the obvious suggestion: stop wasting your time (and mine) here and go either get a woman or a cat to play with. If you actually have better things to do, go do them. We’ll all be better for it, and you’ll be able to stop complaining about how much of your time is being so rudely sucked away by my posts. Win-win.

        81. You, on the other hand, have insisted that this entire blog post and every response you’ve written to it is, indeed, a waste of time

          No, no, no. My responses have been, in fact, a necessary corrective to your typically solipsistic (and inherently leftist) Negroidal worldview — a worldview in which you may pay lip service to the idea of your bottom-of-the-racial-barrel brethren embracing abstract concepts such as “responsibility” and “self-reliance” and “don’t turn every neighborhood you inhabit into a crime-infested war zone,” but which, in the end, serves as yet another tired regurgitation of the “blacks could excel if only Whitey would get over his racism and his fear of the black man taking his woman” meme.
          You refuse to acknowledge that the regressive, ape-like manner in which a sizeable chunk of black males behaves in American society is directly responsible for the view that many (okay, most) non-blacks have of them. You, like every other superficially confident, chest-thumping Son of Da Motherland, ultimately refuse personal responsibility. You use the racial fetish of a small subset of white women as a jacket which you conveniently lay over any icky puddles of black cultural dysfunction in your path. You suckle at the crack pipe of leftist ideology to get whatever sweet, sweet fumes of “YT just hatin’ cuz he don’t be cool like us” remain after millions of your “bruvvaz” have gotten their daily fix.
          You’re intellectually complacent, you’re lazy in your assessments of the issues you purport to tackle, you’re willfully dishonest, you’re self-serving, you’re arrogant in your farcical assumptions of omniscience, and you need to be challenged — wherever it is that you pop up to spout your drivel.
          And that’s the real scoop, Froot Loop.

        82. No, no, no. My responses have been, in fact, a necessary corrective to your typically solipsistic (and inherently leftist) Negroidal worldview

          “Negroidal”? Seriously?
          Your responses haven’t corrected anything. They’ve merely functioned as more evidence of the senseless, transparently self-serving rationalizations of the typical White Nationalist, rationalizations which are by no means to be taken seriously by anyone looking for objective analysis of racial issues.
          The fact that you’ve completely ignored many of my direct responses to your queries above (such as those I placed in this comment) says all we need to know about your ability to reason rationally on this topic.
          I have done more than pay “lip-service” to issues relating to black responsibility for certain problems in the black community. My posts here on ROK and over on the RVF forum make that blatantly obvious and indisputable. You, on the other hand, pay no mind at all to racism or any other ideas that contradiction your notion of the black man as the aggressor and the inferior, at fault for all of his problems and responsible for none of the solutions.
          And let us not pretend that there is any actual amount of direct blame/criticism I could throw at the black community here or anywhere else online that would get us on the same wavelength. You are a racialist with white nationalist tendencies whose opinion of black people in general is low, has always been low and is likely to remain low, regardless of what they do or don’t. We will never see eye-to-eye.
          I’ve spent enough time pointing out why that is (by showing just how empty your “logic” is in several extensive replies above), so I’ll leave it at that and allow the curious to simply peruse my previous responses to you in this thread for more detail.

          You refuse to acknowledge that the regressive, ape-like manner in which a sizeable chunk of black males behaves in American society is directly responsible for the view that many (okay, most) non-blacks have of them

          Wrong. Here’s a quote from the post you didn’t read:

          Are White Women A Serious Threat To Black Men?

          I will not, however, co-sign this ridiculous notion you’re presenting here that all (or even most) white hostility to and/or reluctance to associate with blacks is completely rational, associated entirely with black behavior and disassociated entirely from longstanding notions of white social, moral and biological supremacy (notions that were written into the law of this land until about 50 years ago).

          It is quite clearly stated in this paragraph that much (though not all or most) of white hostility to and/or reluctance to associated with blacks is due primarily to more practical factors unlinked to racism and tied more closely with black behavior. I never denied that poor conduct within the black community was responsible for the view that MANY non-blacks have of blacks. I denied that it was responsible for ALL or MOST of that negative perception.
          This was quite clear in my previous response, as the quote above makes evident. Yet you chose to ignore it in your bid to create your red herring narrative about my alleged attempt to “refuse personal responsibility” for blacks entirely and engage in self-serving intellectual complacency. You’re so desperate to create the conclusion you’ve already made up in your own mind that you simply make things up as you go along and blatantly disregard anything that contradicts your prefabricated thesis.
          This is the mark of an intellectually disingenuous and mentally weak individual unworthy of serious consideration by those looking for objective discussions and objective solutions to real problems. You are all of the things you’ve claimed I am in this post:
          -intellectually complacent
          -lazy in your assessments of the issues you purport to tackle (refusing to engage with evidence/arguments that present substantial challenges to your point of view)
          -willfully dishonest (excessive quoting out of context, willful ignorance of evidence that contradicts your viewpoint, etc)
          -self-serving (presenting your fantasy as reality on more than one occasion, i.e. the notion that it is not actually possible for a white woman to find a black man attractive naturally and that when such attraction does exist it must be manufacured, even though we all understand that interracial attractions of many different kinds have formed organically since the beginning of time)
          -arrogant in your farcical assumptions of omniscience (you think you know much more than you do)
          Your entire argument is an exercise in projection. You embody all of the negative traits that you’ve attempted to tie to me. Once again, this is proof of your status as a mental dwarf incapable of contributing substantively to an objective conversation on topics such as these. You belong in smaller ponds (i.e. Stormfront) with other weak minds willing to overlook (and even praise) the intellectual dishonesty and ignorance you habitually display.
          You think I need to be challenged? I agree, bring it on. Find someone who is capable of providing that test and send him here, because your own mental faculties have proven woefully inadequate for that task so far.

          And that’s the real scoop, Froot Loop

          What scoop? You wouldn’t know a scoop if it slapped you across the face prior to announcing its presence via loudspeaker.
          Go play with your cat, bro.

        83. Frankly I’m getting sick of white guys telling black men who they prefer. Whites guys who probably don’t have a single black friend, have no black relatives, don’t live in a black area and likely have no relations with blacks in any serious way. Yet think they know everything in the recesses of our minds. I think of my entire family all my cousins. They have only ever dated black girls. I know one cousin who briefly was messing with some white chic and after he has only been with black women. Most of them don’t relate to middle class white culture and aren’t particularly interested in mixing it up with them in any serious way. Believe it or not, there’s a lot of stigma within the black community about “dating out” or being seen as getting too close with white people or “selling out”. From what I’ve seen there’s only a minority of black men who seek out white women to the exclusion of all others. A great many more black men simply don’t care about race and will fuck the fat booty black girl in the ghetto as quickly as they’ll fuck the white girl from the suburbs and to them pussy is pussy. Ultimately most men will end up with women that they have the most in common with.
          It’s funny, when black men date white women it’s “Oh look at that black men prefer white women.” When black men date black women it’s “well, that black would rather be with a white woman but black is all he could get because not enough white women will date black men.” Also notice how whenever a black man is with a white woman, it’s assumed that HE chased after her and never the other way around. The first white girl I was ever with came after me. Another funny assumption is that if a black man is dating a white woman he must ONLY like white women. And if a white woman is dating a black man she must ONLY like black men. It’s like it never occurs to some people that they just might like each other as individuals and race had nothing to do with it.

        84. Being a fuck toy for a woman in her prime is a lot better than masturbation. Just curious are you actually a man?

        85. “Black guys will never believe it, and maybe never understand it, but
          there is a large portion of white females out there who just don’t burn coal.
          It’s just not for them. I’ve found that this especially tends to be the
          case with girls who come from a more European background”
          That observation is the opposite of what I’ve observed. I’ve interacted with quite a few European women and often feel that race is much less an issue to them. Like I felt like I was just seen as an American first and black second. Any black man who has lived in both America and Europe will say unanimously that they had an easier time with European women that white American women. Interracial marriage rates between blacks and whites in England, France and Germany is far higher than it is in the USA. Just sayin’.

        86. Also, I think a lot of the hangups about this in American culture stem directly from slavery. Blacks are seen as a permanent undercaste in a society founded on slavery so a woman from the top of the pecking order(white) that gets with a black man is like the slavemaster’s daughter fucking one of the slaves. It would bring shame on the entire slavemaster’s family. I think that mindset is still with us today in many ways.

        87. Notice how this guy’s racism is becoming more and more transparent with each post. At the very start of this debate, he didn’t seem racist per se, just seemed like he was taking some issues with some of Athlone’s points. But as the debate ensues and his patience wear thin, the thinly-veiled racism lurking just beneath can’t help but boil the surface. I’m not one of these people quick to call everyone racist, I’m actually rather careful about invoking the word, but when you start on with the ape comparisons, you’ve shown yourself as nothing but a stone cold bigot.
          Secondly, does anyone else see the irony of him referring to his dick in his handle yet chastising blacks for not wanting to rise above sexuality?
          Athlone, you have way more patience than I.

        88. Well, congratulations on the apparent highlight of your life.
          You’ll note that I’ve never actually said that there aren’t white women attracted to black men. You’ll also note that I’ve already acknowledged to Athlone that Europe has — to a degree — a more liberated, relaxed attitude in regard to interracial mixing.
          So what exactly was the point of this response of yours?
          You’ll also note that I’ve already pointed out to Athlone that black men who come into contact with white women often don’t realize that what they’re dealing with is, in fact, a small subset of white women overall. And what I pointed out to him was that the attitudes and beliefs of this subset of white women is no automatic indication that the larger majority shares the same attitudes and beliefs. But I guess that’s just my raaaaay-cism coming out again.
          Actually here’s a better question for you: why are black men so bloody obsessed with white women? I mean, I know why but I’m curious as to your reasoning for it.

        91. Frankly I’m getting sick of white guys telling black men who they prefer. Whites guys who probably don’t have a single black friend, have no black relatives, don’t live in a black area and likely have no relations with blacks in any serious way.
          Right. Because any resistance to blacks that a non-black individual has must certainly come from cultural ignorance and racist beliefs that they picked up from the dinner table at home, never from any personal experiences this individual has actually had with blacks; never from any personal observations this individual might have made over the years.
          Well, try telling that to various people that I’ve known in my life.
          Like the Chinese-American woman who came to this country as a little girl and had to endure near-daily bullying from the black girls in her grade school, leading up to the day that a group of them cornered her in the bathroom and chopped off her hair…
          Like the Korean-American woman who still has vivid memories of the time a pair of thuglets thundered into the convenience store her parents owned and thrust a gun into her father’s face…
          Like the whites and Hispanics I’ve known who had to endure a gun in their face as some junior-league 2Pac decided to take them for their beat-up old cell phone and the five or six dollars they had in their wallet at the time…
          Or the Hispanic guys who got tired of having to chase black purse-snatchers down the street after some old lady got mugged…
          Or the millions upon millions of whites like myself who watched as the rate of car break-ins, robberies, littering and drunken street fights in their neighborhood soared, the more black people moved in…
          Should I tell you about the time my grandma’s place got broken into?
          Should I tell you about the time our own house was robbed and looted?
          Should I regale you with the many stimulating, enriching experiences that the cops in my family had, dealing with ghetto blacks over many years?
          Should I tell you about the fact that the only racial slurs and overall animus I heard directed at blacks during my time in L.A. was not from whites, but from a motley assortment of Hispanics, Asians and people of Middle Eastern descent?
          Face it: black behavior is the single biggest reason that non-blacks tend to want to avoid blacks like the plague. Anything else from you and your bunch — whatever rationalizations you wish to cook up — is hamsterization, pure and simple.
          Jesus, did Athlone let you borrow that fuzzy black hamster of his, or are you guys so broke that you had to go in on one together?

        92. Your responses haven’t corrected anything. They’ve merely functioned as more evidence of the senseless, transparently self-serving rationalizations of the typical White Nationalist, rationalizations which are by no means to be taken seriously by anyone looking for objective analysis of racial issues.

          In your opinion.

          And let us not pretend that there is any actual amount of direct blame/criticism I could throw at the black community here or anywhere else online that would get us on the same wavelength.

          This is your own paranoid, whitey-fearing assumption that you’ve laid bare for all to witness. Statements such as this function as more evidence of the senseless, transparently self-serving rationalizations of the typical butthurt, chip-on-da-shoulder Negro racial-grievance merchant — rationalizations which are by no means to be taken seriously by anyone with even a modicum of real-world experience or interest in relating to anyone beyond the tip of one’s nose. (See what I did there?)
          I have made a couple of specific attempts in this ongoing back-and-forth to connect with Tha Negro Experience and communicate that I do, in fact, view members of your tribe as sentient beings with recognizably human characteristics, such as when I spoke of the gents who barhopped and tail-chased with Yours Truly in the days of yore:

          One guy in particular that I knew (a friend of friends) was quite forward in expressing the gradual disinterest he had in merely being a throw-away fuck-toy for girls he thought he was getting to know; girls for whom he thought he might have held some sliver of allure as an actual human being, only to discover that — no — they weren’t introducing him to their circle of friends after however many months and they definitely weren’t introducing him to any of their family.
          There was a genuine unease there, with some of these guys, as they realized that they weren’t even in the running to be considered serious dating material for these white girls. As one guy succinctly put it: “oh, I’m good enough for her to hit up at 11:30 when ain’t nobody else answered her texts, but I ain’t good enough to go out to dinner with?”

          Back to your responses:

          I will not, however, co-sign this ridiculous notion you’re presenting here that all (or even most) white hostility to and/or reluctance to associate with blacks is completely rational, associated entirely with black behavior and disassociated entirely from longstanding notions of white social, moral and biological supremacy (notions that were written into the law of this land until about 50 years ago).

          Whites have, in the aggregate, bent over backwards to show how “not racist” they are, to lend a hand — or, hell, at least an olive branch — of friendship and acceptance toward your lot in the last forty-odd years.
          Whites have twisted themselves into fucking human pretzels, worrying endlessly about any flashes of inherent racism and “white privilege” that might escape their mouths in the simplest or most casual of everyday phrases.
          Whites have indeed split right down the middle as a people — as eager as ghetto Jews during the Holocaust to point the finger at one another, to rat each other out to the uniformed officers of the New Thought, and to bury anyone they dislike or feel superior to with the damning cry of “racist!”
          We’ve allowed your lot into our schools and neighborhoods, we’ve allowed you into our homes and into the minds of our children via the works of your movie stars and sports figures and hit-making musicians and rappers. We’ve made such a sincere attempt to engage with your “pain,” to corrects the sins of our fathers that we throw our own under the bus, we castrate ourselves, we teach our men to be spineless beta pussies who never utter a word of “offense” to another living soul, we eagerly bare our backs for the whips of p.c. castigation time and again.
          And what do we get for it? We’re still denounced as “racists,” we’re told that we’re the cause of all strife and injustice in the world, told that we’re a disease that either needs to be mutated into something more “positive” and palatable to modern thought or simply needs to be eradicated altogether. Our impending demographic demise is smirked at and joked about — if not out-and-out celebrated. And what you so predictably deem to be “racialism” and “white Nationalism” (as if those terms were somehow insulting or even negative) is merely the sound of increasing numbers of beleaguered, weary whites throwing up their hands in defeat and saying, “fuck it, why bother anymore?”

          You are a racialist with white nationalist tendencies whose opinion of black people in general is low, has always been low and is likely to remain low, regardless of what they do or don’t.

          Good job on those shaming tactics, Bro Diddley. (Not to mention, the blatant stereotyping of any whites who deign not to kow-tow before your glowing Negro wisdom on all matters racial.) Hell, McG, you’re almost good enough to be a feminist.
          And again, I ask you, since you know so much about me: when’s my biography coming out?

          We will never see eye-to-eye.

          We see eye-to-eye here.

          “Negroidal”? Seriously?

          Oh, seriously Negroidal. (Humorously, as well.)
          I suspect you’re writing all this from your chair at the local hair salon, as you gets yo’ hair processed and laid down over the shoulders of your cheap ghetto-merchant suit and practice your booming, churchified baritone for all the speeches you’ll be giving soon. After all, Al Sharpton’s getting up there in years, and looking pretty gaunt, as of late. He’s gonna need a successor to his illustrious grievance-merchant throne to step up before long.

          Go play with your cat, bro.

          You’re still latching onto that as your oh-so-biting sign-off to me? Let me help you out here: the “cat playing a Stradivarius” crack was not a literal admission to owning a feline; rather, it was a metaphor of obvious exaggeration, intended to communicate the futility of trying to have an honest discussion of racial issues with the average modern Negro.
          Did I clear that one up for ya?

        93. “And what I pointed out to him was that the attitudes and beliefs of this
          subset of white women is no automatic indication that the larger majority shares the same attitudes and beliefs. But I guess that’s just my raaaaay-cism coming out again.”
          I don’t know if you are a newbie around here and the RVF forum or not, but if you’ve read any number of Athlone’s blogs/posts, his view on this matter is quite close to yours. I’m not even sure what you are arguing about.
          “Actually here’s a better question for you: why are black men so bloody obsessed with white women? ”
          Because we have this plan of annihilating the white race using our 9 inch dicks. We’re going to pay you honkies back for raping our women during slavery and blast our racially dominant alleles in your blonde snow bunnies and have the entire European and N. American continents full of Alicia Keys lookalikes. Then we will turn the remaining pure white males into cuckolds who get to watch and pay the welfare cost for the mixed offspring. We will then declare Barack Obama king of this territory for life. Yep now you know the real reason we all chase white women. Our plan is called the Protocols of the Elders of Nubia. I’m working on the Wikipedia page as we speak. Anymore questions I may answer?

        97. Look dude, I’m genuinely sorry to hear that ALL of your experiences with black people have been negative. I’m being totally serious here. If black people have been that fucked up to you that it has turned you into a racist, that’s really too bad. I am at a loss for explaining however why I know so many black friends and family members and friends of family and former co-workers and people I network with who are decent people who bother no one. How it is that you’ve gone your whole life and not met such people is perplexing to me.
          But I don’t take pity on you or think any such experiences are an excuse for your views. Others have been through far worse and didn’t end up like you. Hell, Nelson Mandela spent 27 years of his life in prison and didn’t come out a racist. Malcolm X had his father brutally murdered by white supremacists but at the end of his life preached of the brotherhood of mankind(including whites). Heck even what my own parents with through during the Civil Rights era. Compared with what they went experienced, your sniveling grievances sound rather trite. But if blacks fill you with so much rage and you feel you are ever in danger from them, you should relocated to another country. I’ll even make a few suggestions, Russia, Iceland, Norway, Ukraine. Those places are nearly all white. And you’ll have little chance of marrying a “coal burner” that’s going to give you AIDS. Shit, I’d be willing to take up a collection to buy you a one way ticket out of here if you agreed never to come back.

        98. This is your own paranoid, whitey-fearing assumption that you’ve laid bare for all to witness.

          “Fearing”? What is there to fear? I merely made a statement of fact about your own biases and clear inability to overcome them.
          You’re a racialist. You do not have a high opinion of blacks and never will. Your statements in this thread make that clear. There is, therefore, no reasoning with you on this topic. Attempting to have an honest discussion about racial issues with a white nationalist (or a sympathizer) is an exercise in futility, especially if you are a minority and they insist on lacing their response to you with crudely crafted ebonic phrases and self-serving racialist rhetoric. There is no coming to terms.
          You call that “shaming”? I call it a mere statement of fact: you are what you are, and I don’t think you’re at all ashamed or insulted by it. I also doubt you much care about whether or not I approve of your mindset or consider it “shameful”. That is precisely why we’ll never see eye to eye.

          Whites have, in the aggregate, bent over backwards to show how “not
          racist” they are, to lend a hand — or, hell, at least an olive branch
          — of friendship and acceptance toward your lot in the last forty-odd
          years.

          That is true of a handful of elite (and disproportionately non-christian) whites at the top of this nation’s social and economic pyramid who have largely driven most of the racially progressive legal/social/political trends within the last 50-100 years and are the most ideologically (and politically/financially) committed to the maintenance and extension of those trends today.
          The white American rank and file (which includes the white lower/middle class and constitutes the vast majority of this nation’s white population) is a very different story. There is more diversity among them with regard to this issue.
          They did not drive most of those changes and had relatively little say in their institution. They have not benefited greatly from these changes (unless they’re female, though even that is limited) and, it could be argued, have seen their interests marginalized by them to some significant degree.
          While some are as committed to racial progressivism as the most diehard ideologues within the white elite who drive it, members of this group are also the most likely to stand against the maintenance and extension of those racially progressive trends today (that includes concepts like interracial dating, affirmative action, and the notion of living in diverse neighborhoods among non-whites, black or otherwise).
          They have, unlike the elite, invested next to nothing politically or financially in the maintenance of these progressive trends and have little to lose (and potentially quite a bit to gain) from their elimination.
          There are many within this group for whom hostility to and/or reluctance to associate with blacks is NOT completely
          rational, NOT associated entirely with black behavior and NOT disassociated
          entirely from longstanding notions of white social, moral and biological
          supremacy. That is the reality.

          You’re still latching onto that as your oh-so-biting sign-off to me?

          Yes. Go find something better to do with your time if you think I’m wasting it.

        103. What a horrible photoshop job, the scale is completely off and whoever put this together forgot to tone down the excess gloss of the male model.

        109. Now, that was funny. Clever, even.
          You’ll kindly note that I gave you an upvote for that one. Sounds like an awesome Chappelle’s Show skit. I’m picturing the Farrakhan caricature that Damon Wayans used to play on In Living Color as I read all that. Good stuff. (And yes, I know that the real Farrakhan has been quite critical of Obama, so he probably wouldn’t like that part about declaring President Hussein king of the territory for life — but, hey, let’s not nitpick trivial shit here, shall we?)
          Of course, your little comedy routine was a neat sidestep of the legitimate issue of black males’ obsession with white women — the conquest of whom they usually see as a form of “payin’ back Whitey” and “ruining white women for white men, one OKCupid fatty at a time.”
          But I’ll let that slide for now.

        110. Compared with what they went experienced, your sniveling grievances sound rather trite.

          Now, certainly you can’t be unaware that the exact same statement applies to the modern-day black man — who benefits from unprecedented access to certain levels of white pussy, government-mandated quotas and pay-outs, the ability to move into any neighborhood he can afford (and without the worry of harassment from any local “NIGGER GO HOME” squads), an obsessive culture-wide determination to erase the ugly specter of racism from the national consciousness, and the comforting image of a semi-Negro in the White House — which I’m guessing would be all that any black parent would need to point to, whenever their children start grumbling and whining about “social injustice.” (Liberal indoctrination often starts early nowadays, y’see.)

          Hell, Nelson Mandela spent 27 years of his life in prison and didn’t come out a racist. Malcolm X had his father brutally murdered by white supremacists but at the end of his life preached of the brotherhood of mankind(including whites).

          Well, geez! If only the young Kneegrow shoving a jittery-handed gun in my face on the streets of Chicago had simply explained the above to me! I would have instantly realized that I, in fact, had nothing to complain about and I would have happily handed over the six or seven bucks I had in my wallet at the time! I mean, why have any concern or fear for your own life when men throughout history have had to go through so much worse! Of course! Speakeasy, are you related to George Washington Carver? Because you are a genius, my man! Now I see the light! I mean, context has, like, nothing to do with anything! I get it, bro!

          you should relocated to another country.

          Of course. Anything that makes your lot uncomfortable, anything that you can’t neatly explain away with the usual rationalizations and carping about “injustice” — just get rid of it! Make it go away!
          What angers your lot about a guy like me is that I give the lie to the idea that one’s negative views of blacks are directly related to one’s lack of exposure to blacks. I’m the white guy that your rappers said would be altered and changed by exposure to, and embrace of, hip-hop at a young age. I’m the white guy that your lot was counting on to have completely swallowed the equalist swill by his late twenties/early thirties.
          And yet, here I am — a white guy who grew up in mixed neighborhoods, who met no shortage of black kids in middle school and high school, who’s hung out with black guys, who’s even graced a kid’s handful of black females (mostly “mulattas,” as you like to call them) with some serious white boy lovin’.
          And my views are what they are. This makes no sense to you. This isn’t how it was supposed to work out, dammit.
          But there it is, nonetheless. And because you have no answer for it, because you lack the arsenal with which you could reasonably attack anything that I’ve said or mentioned from personal experience, your only response is: “well, just go away then!”
          Just as I figured it would be.

        111. You know what? Actually, you’re right. You have very little to fear from us. I mean, it’s not like we’re very statistically likely to rob you at gunpoint…
          http://blog.sfgate.com/crime/2013/09/24/a-terrible-title-oakland-again-has-nations-highest-robbery-rate/
          http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/blacks-70-shooting-suspects-2013-nypd-article-1.1522917
          …or break into your homes…


          …or rape your women…
          http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=57c_1336487670
          http://www.webpronews.com/nyc-tourist-raped-after-exiting-cab-2013-02
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_violence_in_South_Africa

          …or murder your children in cold blood…
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newsom
          http://www.sullivan-county.com/racism/emily_haddock.htm
          http://www.wichita-massacre.com/
          http://www.wral.com/lovette-again-gets-life-without-parole-for-murder-of-eve-carson/12508263/
          http://blog.al.com/wire/2011/03/courtney_lockhart_convicted_of.html
          http://stuffblackpeopledontlike.blogspot.com/2011/07/murder-in-midtown-what-brittney-watts.html
          http://sandrarose.com/2013/10/lesbian-charged-with-killing-kennesaw-student-during-road-rage-incident/
          http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2518338/Student-Philip-Chism-14-raped-murdered-teacher-Colleen-Ritzer-pleads-guilty.html

          …or attack you in a game of “knockout king”…
          http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=9363657
          http://whitegirlbleedalot.com/new-npr-dawdles-black-mob-violence-continues/
          …or run a flash mob through your local shopping center or state fair…


          …or beat you or attack you or set you on fire merely for existing…
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESZy4KoZLJc
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUiaxfs6WEA
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXMSV5LLaD0

          Regardless of my personal opinions, I don’t wish you any personal harm. I’m not planning to come burn a cross on your lawn. I won’t be campaigning to keep you out of any future employment or any neighborhoods you wish you move into, and I won’t be working to muddy your name via trumped-up sexual assault charges involving a white girl. I have no bearing on your life whatsoever and yet, there’s clearly something about me that sticks in your craw.
          Why? I have views you don’t like and I unabashedly note facts and statistics that you don’t want unabashedly noted.
          This is why you and supposedly “red-pill” black men such as yourself are little more than leftist sheep in manosphere wolf’s clothing. What you seem unable to tolerate is a white man refusing to hew to the “proper” course of modern thought, as laid down by those non-Christian elites you seem so willing to credit with possessing the wings of angels — as long as the social policies that they’re implementing primarily cause consternation in those “rank and file” white Americans who, by and large, are guilty of nothing but getting on with their lives and wishing to carry forth their own culture and traditions.
          Of course, these same elite Jews (it’s okay, Athlone, you can say “Jews”) are also responsible for supporting, pushing and legitimizing the poison known as feminism — a poison which you’ve spoken out against on many an occasion, a poison which you’ve often blamed for Black America’s unabated post-1960’s downward slide. Hell, the very manosphere of which you and I are both a part wouldn’t even exist except as a long-overdue pushback against the conditions brought about by feminism.
          Do you mean to tell me that, in your mind, this clannish, exclusionary group of “white elites” who are responsible for the dismantling of the American family, as well as the rewarding and incentivizing of black female hypergamy and thug-lust, are suddenly the great heroes of modern-day progressivism? That their driving of

          most of the racially progressive legal/social/political trends within the last 50-100 years

          and the fact that they’re

          the most ideologically (and politically/financially) committed to the maintenance and extension of those trends today

          is suddenly a wonderful thing, and somehow completely separate from the damage they’ve inflicted upon Westerners of all races with the unleashing of woman’s prehistoric drive to select the biggest, most dangerous alpha she can find, while excluding the men who actually work to build and sustain modern society and all of its innumerable comforts?
          If it’s true, as you say, that this elite non-Christian tribe are

          at the top of this nation’s social and economic pyramid

          as opposed to the

          white American rank and file

          which

          constitutes the vast majority of this nation’s white population

          …then, could it be that you have your ideological guns aimed at the wrong people? That, instead of ceaselessly bemoaning the “white nationalism” and “racism” of those who

          have seen their interests marginalized by [Jewish-led progressivism and forced multiculturalism] to some significant degree

          …you should be looking a tad more closely at those “elite whites” who implement those policies which have only served to drag the West — and black America, in particular — ever closer to the godless, slut-filled, gutter-culture, unemployment-and-debt-riddled, homosexuality-normalizing nightmare of a dystopian sci-fi writer’s most fervid scenarios?
          Hell, if you really think that every one of the “elite” members of the Tribe believe wholeheartedly in this mantra of equalism that they push upon us lowly goyim and schvartzes, then I’ve got news for you. I’ve met and hung out with some of them, I’ve fucked some of their women — and I’ve heard quite clearly the things that a number of them are willing to say in private. I’ve heard, time and again, the ways in which they pay lip service to progressivism, only to turn around and blurt out self-betraying indelicacies such as describing a wrong turn through a black neighborhood as a trip to “the third world.”
          Just more proof that you’re merely a kid regurgitating what’s been fed to you by leftist, white-males-are-the-cancer-of-the-world academic institutions, and have yet to balance some of that psychological programming against actual real-life experience.
          Color me shocked.

        113. Unfortunately (for you), it’s ‘most white women’ I’m pretty sure it’s our heavy gorilla dicks. The harem of white girls I’ve nailed would enthusiastically confirm this and let me bang again. Much to the dismay of their fathers, of course 😉

        114. “I have no bearing on your life whatsoever and yet, there’s clearly something about me that sticks in your craw.
          Why?”

          Because you came onto my blog and responded to my article with aggressive, extensive and innacurate attacks on my person, my ethnicity and my intellect that I have naturally felt the need not to leave unaddressed?

          “This is why you and supposedly “red-pill” black men such as yourself are little more than leftist sheep in manosphere wolf’s clothing.”

          I disagree. That being said, I do certainly understand that the black male’s place in the manosphere is a tenuous one at best and our digestion of “the red pill” will differ substantially from your own. I’ve concluded that this gap cannot be completely bridged.
          What does that mean? We’ll find out soon enough.

          “Of course, these same elite Jews (it’s okay, Athlone, you can say “Jews”)”

          I said that this elite is disproportionately non-christian, not primarily so. Jews are a minority within this group. Many of those non-Christians are also non-Jews (ex: atheists, agnostics, etc).

          “Hell, if you really think that every one of the “elite” members of the Tribe believe wholeheartedly in this mantra of equalism”

          Who said that?

          “you should be looking a tad more closely at those “elite whites” who implement those policies which have only served to drag the West — and black America, in particular — ever closer to the godless, slut-filled,
          gutter-culture, unemployment-and-debt-riddled,
          homosexuality-normalizing nightmare of a dystopian sci-fi writer’s most fervid scenarios?”

          I was wondering how long it would take you to get down to the anti-semitic “blame the Jews for all ills” rhetoric that stands at the heart of white nationalist ideology. You took a while but got there nonetheless. I am impressed that you were able to hold it in for this long.
          In any case, no, I’m not going to be playing the “blame the jew” game with you. I’m not an anti-semite and therefore wouldn’t be much good at it. I will leave that activity to you and your ideological peers. You can head over to Stormfront with them and get down to it.
          I’m sure you know the way.

        115. I’m not going to be playing the “blame the jew” game with you. I’m not an anti-semite and therefore wouldn’t be much good at it.

          Atta boy. Keep those eyes closed and mind your new massas. After all, the Tribe’s been propping your lot up for decades now — we certainly wouldn’t want the gravy train to end, now would we?

          I do certainly understand that the black male’s place in the manosphere is a tenuous one at best and our digestion of “the red pill” will differ substantially from your own.

          But of course. For white men, red-pill awakening extends beyond the successful bedding of females and carries over into all aspects of the world around us — removing the wool that’s been placed over our eyes in regards to leftism, race relations, finance, world affairs and the way that so many of us have been tricked and goaded into rejecting our own heritage, our own customs, our worth as a people.
          For the likes of you, the red pill is only a way of life inasmuch as it allows you get into an increased number of panties. Of course, you aim to have your cake and eat it, too, by still hanging onto all those old blue-pill excuses about “oppression” and white racism when it comes to explaining why your bunch is consistently the one group in American society that just can’t seem to get its act together.
          Also note that I’m crediting your bunch with the ability to break past all the tired excuses and rationalizing of failures. Were I a true white nationalist, as you so ignorantly claim, I’d simply fob off your refusal to look any deeper into things on your “low IQ.”

          You can head over to Stormfront with them and get down to it. I’m sure you know the way.

          Of course. Anything that makes your lot uncomfortable, anything that you can’t neatly explain away with the usual rationalizations and carping about “injustice” — just get rid of it! Make it go away!
          What angers your lot about a guy like me is that I give the lie to the idea that one’s negative views of blacks are directly related to one’s lack of exposure to blacks. I’m the white guy that your rappers said would be altered and changed by exposure to, and embrace of, hip-hop at a young age. I’m the white guy who grew up on the Stevie Wonder and Isley Brothers and War in his parents’ record collection, who had his mom run out and buy every Prince LP in existence during ’80s Purple Rain-mania, whose favorite musicians of the twentieth century were — and still are — Miles Davis and John Coltrane. I’m the white guy that your lot was counting on to have completely swallowed the equalist swill by his late twenties/early thirties.
          And yet, here I am — a white guy who grew up in mixed neighborhoods, who met no shortage of black kids in middle school and high school, who’s hung out with black guys, who’s even graced a kid’s handful of black females (mostly “mulattas,” as you guys like to call them) with some serious white boy lovin’.
          And my views are what they are. This makes no sense to you. This isn’t how it was supposed to work out, dammit.
          But there it is, nonetheless. And because you have no answer for it, because you lack the arsenal with which you could reasonably attack anything that I’ve said or mentioned from personal experience, your only response is essentially: “well, just go away then!”
          Just as I figured it would be.

      2. There is clearly something wrong with any human woman that chooses to lay with a niggerape willingly, this is indisputable.

    2. The white women that the successful black men date are just as normal as can be. The reason black successful men date white women is because by the time you get successful there are no desirable black women left.

        1. Success for most men is a stable career with substantial income . Most do this through education . College 22 years old, college grad working 25, professional school( law, medicine , MBA) 28-29 , experience ( time refining learned craft to mastery and income producing skill) 34-35years old. By 36 there are no suitable black women your age, and the young ones want a gangster type. That leaves white women , Hispanic girls, and Asian women. Black women are only 7 percent of the population with only less than 1 percent being a possibility for me, got to change those odds by expansion of the pool.

        2. Look, everyone: it’s Atlanta Man the Human Pretzel!
          I mean, you must be a contortionist, the way you’re twisting yourself into a knot to explain away and justify your preference for white women.
          You prefer white meat, same as every other man on Planet Earth. Just come out and say it. You’ll feel better.

        3. Actually I prefer Hispanic , mixed, white, Somalian , Eastern European , western Caucasian , African American in that order. I just end up fucking a lot of white girls because they are the most plentiful and the easiest to sleep with. And white girls do it all first night. You white guys have easy with these chicks , I’m loving it!

        4. I’m amused by how it never seems to dawn on black guys: just because the white girls that gravitate to them are easy to sleep with doesn’t mean that they all are.
          And you’ll undoubtedly laugh that this is just my “white hamster” spinning but I can assure you that I’ve got far more experience with greater numbers of white women — and with white women of various social backgrounds — than you.
          That’s not even meant to be an insult; it’s just life.

        5. Admit it, if you get a white female at all, which I doubt, she is some fugly looking landwhale not even the lowest class white man would touch

        6. You do not sound amused, you sound mad. Like you don’t like tall attractive intelligent black men, long dicking white women above your pay grade. I can tell when I am banging out white chicks most of them cannot take dick like they should ,holding me back while i can only get half my dick in. Then they fuck you and when you find out a black dude hit it first and better and it fucks with your head. It should not fuck with your head , but it does.

        7. I was wondering when you were going to pull the “muh dick” card.
          “MUH DICK! MUH DICK!!!” It’s the last resort of the black male who can neither persuade through logic nor argue with facts; the black male who has neither ready response nor a willingness to engage the discussion when someone confronts him with unpleasant truths about the racial group to which he belongs.
          And yet, you know why we white guys tend not to resort to braggarts’ cries of “MUH IQ!” or “MUH GOOD CREDIT!” or “MUH CRIME-FREE NEIGHBORHOOD!” or “MUH PLACE AT THE TOP OF THE SOCIAL LADDER!”…?
          Because we have nothing to be ashamed of and we have no problem meeting a debate head-on.

          It should not fuck with your head , but it does.

          Whatever you need to tell yourself, bro.

        8. Hate to inform you of this but roughly 70% or so of African American degree holders are female. Assuming half of them can hold a good paying job, and are attractive, how is that NOT desirable?

        9. ” I just end up fucking a lot of white girls because they are the most plentiful and the easiest to sleep with.”
          I’ve heard that they do anal and all kinds of disgusting, really degraded stuff that nobody else in the world will do. True or false? And if true, why do you think that is?

        10. Well Writer, having traveled all over the world and mixed and mingled with all kinds of people from all kinds of backgrounds, white American (as well as Western European) women do have the sluttiest reputations. Not saying that its true, but the reputation is there that not only are they easy, they will do anal and all manner of degrading,disgusting, and even violent things in bed. Even Roosh wrote that for the nastiest most humiliating (for the woman) sex, white American women win hands down out of all the women he’s been with.
          My question is: WHY?

        11. Why? Because of feminism — a movement which exists to absolve white women of all personal accountability and assure them that no matter what they do, and no matter how self-destructive and shortsighted it actually is, there should be no consequences for it.
          Add to this vapid you-go-grrrl culture the emptiness that results from a steady erosion of religious values and traditional beliefs in many upper middle-class SWPL families, plus the idea that she’s had pounded in her head by decades of leftist indoctrination that she has nothing to be proud of and no values or standards that she needs to bother upholding, and I’d say that about sums it up.
          All women share the same slut nature that many white girls parade about so freely. But other women don’t often live in a world that’s had the idea of consequence so assiduously scrubbed from it. Other women don’t have the feminism machine them the way that white women do — erasing all self-doubt and telling them every step of the way what ethically spotless, unimpeachable queens they are.
          That kind of freedom tends to unleash a woman’s worst instincts.

        13. Hmmmm, I dunno, Writer. Not buying it. I mentioned before I travel around the world a lot. I don’t think I’ve been anywhere that doesn’t have its own homegrown version of Feminism. And yet the sexual proclivities of Americans, like anal between heteros and other weird stuff (I’ve recently heard Americans like to choke people during sex and be choked?! WTF is that about?), seems to be exclusive to Americans. Should I go out on a limb and assume Western and Northern Europeans are into that stuff too? If so can these perversions be traced genetically? Like Germanic or Scotts-Irish or something?
          “All women share the same slut nature that many white girls parade about so freely.”
          Riding the cock carousel is one thing, but that’s not what I’m talking about here. I’m talking about the sexual perversions that American women are known for. Like Roosh said, the most humiliating, perverse, nastiest and degraded sex can be had with White American Women.
          Do you think this is because of porn?

        14. most black women aren’t attractive when 80 percent can’t even control their weight. nice try though!

        15. Stacey, smart, attractive and healthy weight black women have no problem in the dating and mating arena – with any sort of man: black, white or other. Their only problem is finding a man they consider “at their level” and attractive enough for them.

        16. You have dick in your name so you spend a lot of time thinking about dick, your dick, my dick , other black dudes dicks , you are a penis aficionado. I was just trying to get on your level Stop being a dick, Dick.

        17. Well, the normalization and “trendification,” if you will, of sexually deviant acts certainly hasn’t helped.
          Of course, the same people who run and promote the porn biz just happen to be the same people behind the explosion of feminism as a movement. And they also happen to be the same people who promote the “excitement” of interracial relationships via their media outlets and who’ve set in motion the third-world flooding of predominantly white lands via their inordinate government influence.
          Think it could be a coincidence…?

        18. They do it all first night, go to Atlanta and hit the late night dub step parties that have replaced the raves of my youth. Go for two weeks and you will get some young white college ass, that shit is off the chain like a porno for real.

        20. Guest, ok I believe you. But what socio-economic demographic do these women come from? And why do you think it is that they are so willing to degrade themselves sexually? I recently found out that something called “choking” is supposedly beloved to Americans. I don’t get it. How could that be a turn on? Why do you think white Americans are so sexually perverse? Have they always been so? Do you think it can be traced back to British roots? French? Germanic? Scotts-Irish? What’s your theory?

        21. I personally do not date women over 26. When I meet a woman certain things are non negotiable. No kids, no fake hair, must be fit and trim, no ridiculous tattoos and must not challenge my position as dominant in the relationship. Most black women that meet that criterion are married or engaged by 25. No disrespect to you Stacy but I think I will determine attractive, I have had enough of women telling me who and what is desirable. I am very picky due to the time I have spent developing myself professionally and physically, I have earned that right so I exercise it.

        23. In which my putting forth a level of debate that you can neither maintain nor truly understand equates to “being a dick.”
          Brilliant. Keep smashing those stereotypes. Oh, and thanks for the laughs.

        26. I do not know. The second chick I ever banged was white back in 1989 and it was like that back then. The last college chick I pulled took me to her house and she had interracial on pause and a jack rabbit by the bed.
          I bang white chicks from across the socioeconomic spectrum and they are all like that. Freaky and submissive, with all holes up for grabs, and they all swallow. The only parallel I see is upper middle class and upper class black light skinned girls in terms of freaky ness. Even the ones that make you wait till the second date just lay it out.

        27. Since ’89? See and here I thought these perversions were cultural and arose out of the recent rise and availability of internet porn. But if it goes back decades then it could be genetic. Was she Scotts-Irish or what?

        28. Same goes for American men. Most Americans are 5’s at best and in their prime. Even many of the celebrities.

        29. ” must not challenge my position as dominant in the relationship.”
          So how do you spring that on them, over coffee? How is that received?

        31. That’s true too, but you know being in Atlanta that black men are fighting over like 5 percent of black women, if they’re only trying to date black women at all

        32. “You prefer white meat, same as every other man on Planet Earth.”
          The overwhelming majority of people prefer partners from their own ethno-cultural groups. If anything, porn has made white women appear to be less than human to the world. Do you think its a good thing that men all over the world perceive your women to be objects of willing humiliation and degradation? Is that a point of pride for you? Because I can tell you right now without a doubt that is exactly what millions of men think of white women and it puts them in a precarious situation when they travel. At best they are not considered wife material. At worst? You don’t even wanna know.

        33. The Jews control porn and they control the images of white women and the “alpha” black male stud that they put out to the world.
          Why would I look upon this as a point of pride? Why would you even ask such an inane question? Who in their right mind holds the porn industry in high esteem?
          Say what you like about the images that people around the globe supposedly hold about white women, but the fact remains: the white woman is still the standard of beauty the world over.

        34. “You prefer white meat, same as every other man on Planet Earth. Just come out and say it. You’ll feel better.”
          When you and the rest of the White Nationalist crew start to take your women off of that massive pedestal you put them on, gender dynamics in these societies will begin improving and sites like this will become less necessary. I promise.

        35. Sorry Writer, I can’t buy your theory that porn is the fault of Jews. Heck, most American porn is of the amateur variety these days. White American women are choosing to do web cams. No one is forcing them. And this is what people around the world don’t understand. If they were absolutely starving and homeless without a cent or cell phone to their name, then maybe they could understand a woman degrading herself for money so she could eat. But that’s not the case.
          I want to understand if its genetic. I’d like to know what ethnic background the majority of these women are from, whether Germanic, French, Anglo, Scotts-Irish or what. I’m intuiting that there’s an evolutionary factor involved.

        37. You seem to have a problem understanding the way culture changes over time.
          First off, the porn industry IS run and controlled by Jews. There is no disputing the hard facts. Have a look:
          http://www.jewishquarterly.org/issuearchive/articled325.html?articleid=38
          http://www.whale.to/c/jewsporn.html
          Secondly, the gradual nudge-wink acceptance of professional porn helped pave the way for the normalization of outre fetishes, female sluttiness and exhibitionism in today’s society. This has filtered into our smartphone-and-webcam-infested culture to the point that today’s young women are merely picking up the torch and using home-shot porn vids as a way to feed their need for attention and express the “individuality” that the liberal (i.e. Jew-led) erosion of values has told them is a valid form of self-expression.
          What is so hard to understand about this?

        41. Of course technology makes it easy to do these things. My question is why this particular demographic of American women chooses to use their technology in such a way. I’m intuiting that there is a genetic link. Some ideas to play with are could some ethnicities be genetically more inclined toward sexual restraint while others are genetically more inclined toward perversity and sexual violence? (I’m leaning toward Anglo and Scotts-Irish backgrounds but would need data on which specific ethnicities the majority of these women belong to), These ideas are hinted at in a watered down, slightly less pornified, quasi politically correct and humorous way in this video, but is there truth in it? Is it a DNA thing?

        42. 1) I never said I was WN. Wouldn’t ya know — my main beef with WN’s is the fact that they’re pinning everything on the “purity” of hypergamous white females — some of whom would sell out their fucking race for a goddamn slice of pizza, let alone dusky alpha cock. I am not in denial about this, my friend, I can assure you.
          Furthermore, I knew a guy who fell in with skinheads in my younger days. Turns out Mr. Purity pounded out almost as much Latina tail as I did during five whole years in Southern California.
          2) Like the other guy in this thread, you assume I have women of any color on some sort of pedestal. All I’ve said is that there are plenty of white women off-limits to da bruvvaz — I said nothing to deny that their alpha-craving slut instincts are likely still in full force with white men.

        44. You’re full of shit.
          Amateur porn is filled with sluts of every hue showing off their meat folds. You ignore this because it doesn’t fit into your narrative of craven, morally lacking white women.

        45. I’m talking about the ethnic majority that one sees in porn and the ill effects this has on women (and men) from those background when they travel the world. Or even if they don’t travel. What the world thinks of them, right or wrong. Its a shame that some of the really good ones get stereotyped in this manner also. Its not good for international relations and PR. Why do they do it? Why do they not care?

        48. I am Black, educated, and I will tell you that I have dated cute/hot girls of every race. If a Black man is educated, has money, a normal white collar career and lives in a cool house/apartment, girls of all races make themselves available. Success does not see color. Also, none of my close Black male friends date Black girls, all have cute white/hispanic/asian girlfriends. I agree though that there are women who will NEVER date Black men: I just NEXT those women and talk to the ones who are open to it.

        49. Deepak Thinker, why are you telling me this? I never said anywhere that women of varying races do not date black men. They do. I have nothing against it.

        50. In Atlanta it is like 15 percent because all the black people in America go there or DC, but the relative gist of what you said is true. Aim for the stars and you will at least hit the sky……

        51. I can determine most of what I need to know about a woman in five minutes, if I don’t get the good vibe I keep it moving.

        55. And?
          It’s been said time and again but it’s valid, so I’ll repeat it here:
          Black man shows strong sense of identification with his people and his cultural history, and seeks to maintain his culture, as well as do everything in his power to see his culture survive? Why, that’s noble and worthy of respect.
          White man shows strong sense of identification with his people and his cultural history, and seeks to maintain his culture, as well as do everything in his power to see his culture survive? Alert the hate-group watchdogs and ready the predictable condemnations of “racism” and “xenophobia.”
          And there are many like me, for whom this shit — shaming tactics, essentially — is just having less and less of an effect.
          Remember: I don’t regurgitate media talking points or things I learned from TV. As is the case with many, many others like myself: I speak only from personal experience with blacks. Only from personal experience.
          And — surprise, surprise — that personal experience bears scant relation to The Cosby Show or the smiling, friendly black dudes they keep showing me on TV…

        56. “”MUH DICK! MUH DICK!!!”
          Look at your own pen name. I guess the irony is lost upon you.
          “It’s the last resort of the black male who can
          neither persuade through logic nor argue with facts; the black male who
          has neither ready response nor a willingness to engage the discussion
          when someone confronts him with unpleasant truths about the racial group
          to which he belongs. ”
          Athlone slaughtered your ass further up in this thread. When confronted with someone willing to dissect you word by word with laser precise logic, you dropped out of the debate.

        57. Ah, yes! Rule of the Internet #26:
          Should your opponent not immediately respond to your latest volly — if he should pause to make a cup of coffee or go to the bathroom or attend school or go to work or simply tend to that which awaits him in real life — then, he’s a coward who’s dropped out of the debate and YOU HAVE WON THE INTERNETS.

        58. Oh, and…

          “”MUH DICK! MUH DICK!!!”
          Look at your own pen name. I guess the irony is lost upon you.

          Right. Because a tongue-in-cheek acknowledgment of the way that unabashed male sexuality informs my writing is exactly the same as the way that 98% of black males will invariably resort to bragging about dick size or their alleged conquests of scores of white women whenever a debate over racial matters crops up.
          I see.

        59. Jess, please stop posting up these crap-shopped images on here. That semen is obviously fake and that male model is literally dragged and dropped into a lot of these pictures and has the angle of his member adjusted to fit into the scene.

    3. “In all my life, I have never known of any white female to date black men
      unless she had no better options (obese, unattractive, etc.) or had
      some type of mental issue (abandoned by her father, molested by male
      family members, etc.). I’m sure some people will say that is a “racist”
      comment, but that is just my honest observation.”
      – I saw you got a lot of flack for that but I have seen the same amongst the lower classes and lower-middle class. And please note that those unattractive white women mated with equally unattractive black men, not the hot ones. And if they had issues, you can be sure the black men they got with had issues as well. Its not like mentally disturbed, fat and unattractive white women are getting with the cream of the crop black men!
      “However Most of the genuinely
      successful, stable black men I’ve known have been smart enough to avoid
      all of the drama of white females and are married to educated black
      women from middle class families.”
      – Well, most black men of all classes marry black women, just as most white men marry white women and most Korean men marry Korean women and most Indian men marry Indian women, etc. However there are some attractive, stable, middle class and up black men who do marry attractive, stable, middle class white women. But because the lower to lower-middle classes are the most visible in public spaces, and they tend to be overweight and unattractive, well that is the interracial coupling we see the most of here in the States.

    4. I would not go so far as to use the phrase “morally depraved”.
      But I think a better point to make is this.
      For how many Black man/White woman couples is race not a factor in the relationship? Would that couple still be together if both were white or black or whatever?
      Do the majority of black/white mixed couples really meet incidentally and were attracted to each other without looking at skin color? (As it arguably should happen in a racism free society.) Or was the light skin of the woman signal higher status, (perhaps better attitude) for the man, and the dark skin of the man signal perceived alphadom, rebellion, exotisism, (liberal white guilt perhaps) for the woman.
      Consider popular culture concepts: “Where the white women at?”, “Once you go black you don’t go back.”, “She really wants to piss off daddy.” Is the popular view completely wrong, or does it reflect reality.
      Disclaimer 1: I am a white man, my personal experience will always be different.
      Disclaimer 2: As with all social observations exceptions exist.

    6. Regardless, it is clearly safe to say that White women’s biggest enemy is ni66er males. Beyond typical ni66er rape, the poor women are in danger of tossing their evolution right out of the window and giving birth to an ape instead of a fully functional human being.

  24. You know, I’m starting to think we need to create a new hamster .gif specifically for black males. Perhaps a hamster with a little tiny gold chain around its neck? A hamster running its little heart out so fast that the little Kangol on its head just flies off? Perhaps an oversized Godzilla-hamster galloping through the streets of downtown Detroit, leaving nothing but ruin and debris in its wake?

    1. Hey! That gold chain is part of my gaudy, flashy, gangster Sicilian heritage that has been stolen by the black man. They should get their own damn hamster.

  25. Any discussion of race won’t be well received here because this site is predominated by white males and since ‘whiteness’ is more of a privledge thing than it is a race, bringing it up always makes them uncomfortable. Look at the tactics they’re using now that they constantly accuse women and beta males of applying. They’re deflecting, name calling and even saying they won’t read any more of the author’s articles because they disagree with this one. And by doing so they are exemplfying the very thing this article talks about. The author is discussing black male/white female dynamics, and the white men here are quick to use stats and other unncessary ‘facts’ to jump in and save the reputation of their precious women

      1. Its unncessary to bring up the number of rapes black men are convicted of against white women when we’re discussing false rape accusations. Its unnecessary to talk about thug culture as a threat to black men as if a group of people can only have so many threats against them. Yes black violent crime is a threat, unemployment is an issue, and a black man will always have to look over his shoulder if he chooses a white wife

    2. the white men here are quick to use stats and other unncessary ‘facts’ to jump in and save the reputation of their precious women

      Black men being protective of black women = noble, honorable, indicative of strength as a man and pride in oneself and one’s people
      White men being protective of white women = RAAAAAAY-CISM!!!

      1. Protect all you want. The author is simply stating that it is that protection that could result in a negative outcome for the black male

        1. It goes both ways. Or do you think its irrelevant when a Korean guy gets beaten into a coma by three black guys for the crime of dating a black woman?

    3. “since ‘whiteness’ is more of a privledge thing than it is a race”
      i see you’ve learned a thing or two in inane horseshit shaming language from the feminists who stopped by a few weeks ago

      1. If whiteness is real, why do the rules keep changing about who can be white? Jews, Italians and Irish people didn’t have that status to begin with. And now when you check off your race on forms it asks if you’re latino first, then white, black etc. This means Mexicans now have inherited white status and I’m sure in the future other people (Japanese, Arabs) will get to be white as well. Im not trying to shame anyone. I just believe race is less salient to white men in paricular and arguments about it with you all go nowhere because it doesn’t mean the same thing to you.

        2. I’m not so sure. What’s the best way to ensure you don’t become the minority in what you preceive to be your country? Give white status to the largest immigrant population. They’re not white now, but teach them English, let them into government, give them property/businesses and let them call themselves white and after a while they’ll forget they were anything esle. Mexican will be their culture, but white will be their identity.

    4. “Look at the tactics they’re using now that they constantly accuse women and beta males of applying. They’re deflecting.”
      Pst. Hey. Hey, dumbass. Deflecting is exactly what you just did. Not only does your generalized framing of the responses here not reflect them, it doesn’t reflect anything since it’s stupidly vague. Respond to the fact (Oh, I’m sorry, you call facts ‘facts’) regarding black on white rape (oh, I’m sorry, this reality relevant to the dangers looming in black male/white female dymanics is ‘unnecessary’ since it doesn’t serve your conclusion.)

  26. White women aren’t the threat to black males; blue-pill beta white knights and HBDers are the threat. White women are the means white beta men use to harm alpha black men. White american women are spoiled because weak-willed beta white men made them that way. If these beta white knights became red-pill and worked on becoming alpha, white women would not wander off to black men. Racism and fear of genetic annhilation are what prompts the social injustices against black men…arguably the most alpha male of any race group. It is the most alpha male that is the most threatening.

        2. You’ve got no argument. With Schopenhaur as your avatar, you ought to back up your position with an argument.

        3. I have plenty to say by way of an argument. Thing is, that’s the kind of energy I normally reserve for someone who might actually be swayed by facts and logic — no matter how discomfiting they may be.
          You, on the other hand, give off every indication of being perfectly comfortable with the po’ blacks/mean ol’ whitey rationalizations that have been spoon-fed to you by the liberal establishment since crib days.
          In essence: why bother? The great majority of blacks will never take a long, hard look at their own behavior and prejudices; the great majority of blacks will never grow tired of how easy it is to simply assume that whites (or non-blacks in general) must always be in the wrong and secretly afraid of the big, strong alpha black Superman.
          There isn’t a single bit of logic in my arsenal sharp enough to pierce the heart of that great fuzzy black hamster of yours — a hamster that’s grown to Brobdingnagian proportions from forty-plus years of feeding off chewy, chicken-flavored morsels of Victimology 101 and media-stoked resentments.

    2. hint: “white, blue-pill beta white knights” tend to be liberals who vote for social welfare programs that disproportionately benefit minorities.
      these same folks will also deny intrinsic genetic differences in intelligence.
      these guys will be the ones to respond to this type of shaming language in a manner you might think would be fitting by extolling black competitive fitness while agreeing they are responsible for any perceived deficits.
      don’t bite the hands that feed (the SNAP program, that is)
      you’re right on one account: accepting this type of bullshit from the world and their women definitely leads some serious mudsharking, because what woman would fuck a man that baselessly naive and starry-eyed?
      enjoy your race-baiting goals of 2014

      1. “hint: “white, blue-pill beta white knights” tend to be liberals who vote
        for social welfare programs that disproportionately benefit minorities.”
        There are as many dedicated white knights on the right as there are on the left. The notion that white knights are only on the left is one of the biggest misconceptions in the manosphere.

        1. the debased self-absorption entailed with the red pill involves an element of narcissism that eventually leads toward the HBD championing of genetic superiority of one’s own lot (re: jamaals posting big dick nigga picks, chads trying to DQ competition with claims to higher intelligence). this inherently leads to conservatism for seeking to preserve the traits one has deemed superior for the integrity of their own frames.
          while the WK populations may be similar, dividing by red pill v. blue pill would likely tell a different political story

  27. Are white women the greatest threat to successful black men?
    From what I’ve seen. I think its other black men that are the greatest threat to successful black men. The fact is that there is a significant percentage of black men that come from poor socioeconomic backrounds e.g. projects, surviving on welfare checks, food stamps etc. This creates a sort of collective grandiose fantasy of wealth that is experienced from black men that come from this backround. Hence the high crime rate in these areas(muggings,drug dealing,robberies, prostitution etc)…everyone is trying to get a slice from the pie.
    Now I know a lot of people say “why can’t they go to school and get a normal job like we do?”
    As a business owner would you hire a guy with a community college degree or a guy that went to a middle class/Ivy league educational establishment?
    Would you hire a guy that grew up in a debilitated neighborhood and got tagged by jail/juvenile facility or a guy that grew up in long island,hollywood, manhattan etc.
    So whats available? 60 hour shift p/w at the burger joint that pays out minimum wage? and my flat mate is selling a Kilo of coke for $20,000-$25,000? I think most would be very tempted to break bad.
    Tl;dr?
    Alot of black guys hate and envy successful black men while tearing each others ambition and aspirations down…creating a lose-lose situation, vicious cycle that keeps on spinning

    2. Same goes for poor white people. In the trailer areas just replace coke with meth.
      The job deal is a mixed bag for a black man. On one hand a smaller business may let racial motives influence hiring. However, an Equal Opportunity Employer may hire the black community college grad over the white community college grad as they have enough ivy league whites and want to meet quota. Don’t like the odds? Start a business and when you are sitting in the hiring chair are you going to help out your fellow struggling black man or hire the entitled white guy? hmmmmm.

  29. White Knighting FTL.
    How much of what you described in this article isn’t even racism, but is just vanilla beta white knighting. How much devastation has to happen because of white knighting?
    If people would treat the claims of women the way they would treat the claims of everybody else, none of this would happen.
    And what of the anti-racist and supremacist hucksters, peddling snake oil? None of their solutions fix anything if the problems are cause by white knighting.

  30. Nice perspective article. You just forgot to include “While these events have transpired do not let them place your mind into victim status”.
    From the perspective of being a white male born and raised without privilege under urban circumstances (I’ve seen my share of reverse racism). In modern times I believe it’s not so much about race but class (money). If you can’t get your shit together as a white man NO one is going to help your ass. We do not get a white entitlement pass when we are born. Everyone has hurdles to leap. Don’t get upset when you have to run the pro-track! You’re way stronger and faster for it as your entitled peers are running the girl track… you know, the “everyone gets a trophy” crowd.
    You can’t change the way the wind blows, but you can change the way you set your sails.

  31. You’re writing as if racial profiling is something motivated by hatred; it isn’t. It’s a rational and effective response to the incredible preponderance of black crime.
    The Wichita Massacre: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wichita_Massacre Just a slightly more horrific version of a story that’s played out every day in America, with whites being the victims of random crime sprees by blacks.
    Until blacks own up to the sickness in their own community – and roundly denounce criminal slime like Trayvon Martin (how can you *not* support an obviously innocent man like George Zimmerman?) – there can be no fellowship between the races.
    Start standing up for civilized values! I like blacks, and admire many of the contributions they’ve made to our culture. But so long as the black response to black-on-white crime is race-baiting and racial hatred against the perceived historical crimes of whites, you remain nothing but a useful idiot for those who are destroying our culture. You’re as much my enemy as the feminists are.
    I’m reaching my hand out in friendship. Stop biting it while there’s still time.

    1. Zimmerman was not white and is himself a thug who was arrested multiple times and even attacked a police officer. Trayvon was no saint but did not deserve to get killed, or for that matter even followed and assaulted by Zimmerman . Zimmerman’s not done with our justice system, within the next three years he will find himself in court again due to his stupidity an aggressive nature. I see lots of pictures of Trayvon on twitter posing, only Zimmerman had multiple mug shots prior to the incident. Aurini I am surprised at that comment, you are usually more objective than this, I look for you to buck the narrative and cut to the facts. I still agree with 90 percent of what you say so we will just have to agree to disagree on this one.

      1. Zimmerman may be an Obama voter, and a bit of a loser, but the fact was that he was not guilty, yet most blacks feel that he was guilty, despite there being no evidence, and despite there being great amounts of evidence that Trayvon was the aggressor. In other words, blacks, having absolutely no ground to stand upon, have chosen Trayvon as their hill to die on, as their Martyred Saint, and it has completely alienated MANY whites who were previously comfortable around blacks. Add to that the media spectacle whereby “George” was portrayed as a white man who killed a little kid– until pictures came out and he had to be relabeled as a “white hispanic” to maintain “the narrative,” and perhaps you can imagine the alienation whites feel about this topic.If blacks are going to chose this hill to die on, then it reveals to whites how absolutely petty and endless the black complaining will be. It cannot ever be ameliorated by anything whites can do. Either all whites need to die, or all blacks need to become white, or blacks need to just FORGIVE whites.

        1. Aggressor , think about it removed from emotion. The case is over there is no stake in it for any of us. Aggressor , is the person following another the Aggressor or the person being unwittingly followed. Predator is not a synonym Aggressor, and I am not attempting to draw a parallel between the two words just asking if one animal is following another and it is the predator , is it not also the aggressor.
          As the aggressor the only one with the real agency, the adult in the situation Zimmerman needed only to cease his persistence once he notified the authorities of his erroneous suspicions of the young hooded boy , and no murder would have resulted. But in his SUV he let his temper dictate his actions. If a 29 year man acts like this he has issues.

        2. Stop trying to twist the story. Zimmerman did absolutely NOTHING that warranted violence. He neither threatened Trayvon nor attacked him. The only dumb thing Zimmerman did was waiting until he was beaten half-unconscious before using his gun. It could have easily been taken from him and used against him.

      2. Zimmerman had been in a couple of scraps in his early twenties; he’s no saint, but they weren’t vicious assaults on strangers, they were bar fights. His “assault on an officer” was a trumped-up charge, punishment for a Mundane daring to touch a Sacred Officer.
        Trayvon was involved in multiple indictable offenses, but never punished because of lazy policing, lazy school adminitration, and race-baiters who’d try and get anybody involved in his punishment fired. The system really let him down, here – if he’d been punished earlier, he might have learned that actions have consequences.
        His history includes:
        *Possession of burglary tools
        *Possession of expensive womens’ jewellery, from an unknown source
        *Dealing drugs
        *Running a fight club after school
        *Claiming to have assaulted a bus driver on his twitter
        *Multiple suspensions from school
        Also, from the evidence it’s abundantly clear that he *did* assault Zimmerman. A plausible reconstruction of events is that he ran back to his father’s house to stash his weed, then – as Zimmerman was returning to his vehicle – ran up and punched him from behind.
        Multiple witnesses report that Zimmerman was on the ground, getting beaten bloody by Trayvon – when a black, teenage thug starts doing this, it’s completely reasonable to fear for your life. Furthermore, *no* sane moral code would demand that you allow yourself to be punched in the face, out of the worry that your assailant might be harmed by your fighting back.
        “I look for you to buck the narrative and cut to the facts.” I would turn that back on you – go look up, not just the facts of the assault itself, but everything we know about it beforehand – from the convenience store footage, the testimony of Trayvon’s “girlfriend”, the evidence of Trayvons character, and that of George Zimmerman, the witness accounts, and the map of the place where it happened, and the criminal history in that neighbourhood of multiple break-ins and one attempted rape.
        The whole affair is a textbook case of a righteous shoot. It’s regrettable that Trayvon died – as I said, he deserved better from his society, he deserved punishment for his earlier crimes so that he might have learned self-control before then – but he chose to assault a man who was trying to protect his neighbours, a man who was armed (as all men should be), and decisions have consequences.
        Trayvon engineered his own death; I’m saddened by the loss, but it’s a death he utterly deserved. While Zimmerman may not be a saint, he did nothing remotely wrong in this situation, and the media has turned him into a double victim here.
        A victim of violent assault; and a victim of mass media slander.

        1. come on davis, we all know that the “no_limit_nigga” was just a kid who wanted some skittles!

      3. The issue is property rights, the way civilized white men best defined them. You are using a circus lens to look past what you are really supporting, the divine right of NWO and New Age feudalism. I don’t think Aurini is saying individual merit does not matter. I think he is implying it won’t matter when SHTF, and it matters less and less now since our means to know each other as individuals and enforce individual accountability are miniscule and declining every day. Of course, Aurini can eloquently speak for himself.

      4. He is not White in America. The concept of White is so ambiguous. It is the most undefined racial group which is why those who call themselves White people will never understand or appreciate race and culture. If he were in Mexico or South America he would be considered White or in the majority populaiton.

    2. *cough* Muslims *cough* Jews *cough* women *cough* NWO *cough* useful idiots.
      There is a time to invest the time and effort to know someone as an individual and a time to not. When the malay ensues, I doubt there will be any civilized leadership to establish civilization. Too much subsidized ignorance. Funny thing is: the largely brutish minorities generally think they have a better chance with the NWO than with rank-and-file white men. Useful idiots. They will have to run their parasitic course before civilized culture can be re-established. Pity.

    3. Rini, hate meister and race-baiter. The man with the fake voice who wears cosplay costumes for real. Fuck you and your soiled hand, bitch.

      1. No, he is alright he just doesn’t look for the head nod he tells it raw and uncut. He is not a racist he is a realist, I just disagree with him about this single issue. It does not invalidate the other intelligent on point shit I agree with he also says and writes.

  32. You guys on this site are no different from the feminist when talking about false rape accusation and the catastrophic effects it have on the community and men as a whole and they bring up “stats” about rape that have committed. Question, What does rape has to do with false rape allegations?

    1. What does words has to do with questions? What does an article has to do with comments? What does thinking has to do with conversation? What does intellect has to do with syntax and subject/verb agreement? What does stupid questions has to do with black women pretending to be white men named Jack?

  33. I wonder this will get more comments and controversy than the “Dating a Girl with a Eating Disorder” article? *eats popcorn*

    1. “Black men are the biggest threat to successful white men and women ” should do the trick.

  34. No I say the white male beta mangina enablers are the biggest threat to everyone. Without them, no one would give a damn about some white bitch feeling shamed because she decided to get drunk and sleep with the state college’s star athlete and all of sudden yell “rape” when her “honor” is called into question. The white male whiteknight beta mangina enabler is the biggest threat to Western Civilization, because without this creature, feminism would have died in its cradle. The best thing to be in America in 2013 is a white woman and/or Jew, and the legal system, media, academia and the rest of society prove this.
    All too often have families, careers and communities been destroyed because of the selfishness of the Western white woman (mainly those from the Anglosphere). The level of entitlement is absolutely ridiculous, but I don’t blame women at all. I blame these white male whiteknights, these men who believe that by destroying the careers of noble alphas, that somehow this will popularize them amongst the white girl entitled crowd and get them laid. In fact the opposite is true.
    Women are biologically repulsed by the “lean on my shoulder and cry girl” types. They won’t fuck these men, and if they do it’s because a.) These men have lots of money or b.) It was a onetime sympathy fuck. I would say, stay away from Western white women because of their level of entitlement, their propensity to destroy when they do not get their way and most importantly the plethora of white-male beta mangina enablers who allow them to run roughshod over an entire nation.

      1. Why does someone feel the need to photoshop semen and a faceless dick on these models? They’re ruining a great picture with all of that excessive shadowing and dimming.

    3. “Women are biologically repulsed by the “lean on my shoulder and cry girl” types.”
      True, but the vast majority of women are visually repulsive themselves. They’re fat, or ugly, or mannish, or old(this right here accounts for most of em), or have the body of a teenage boy, or are mentally/physically handicapped, or are too weird even for a chick, or diseased, or from Long Island … usually several of these traits combined. While Beta men will get a pity fuck here and there, they also pity themselves for being relegated to banging these sea creatures.

  35. There’s a better question:
    ARE BLACK MEN THE GREATEST THREAT TO WHITE WOMEN?
    It’s rhetorical.

    2. I’m fairly confident that they would trail white men in that regard. Point taken, though.

      1. To be clear, I totally sympathize with the black guys you cited (and all people) who are flagrantly wronged by the justice system, especially by deliberate malice.
        No system is perfect, and innocent people, tragically, will always be convicted in any system. But when false convictions and charges happens by evil rather than by error, it is horrifying, not tragic.
        Whatever the race, color, creed, or sex, basic truth and justice is very important.
        But as I’ve written to you before, I now absolutely believe that whites must have a country of our own. The worst black pathologies, most notably violent crime, are running absolutely wild in modern America, and it is utterly pulverizing the spirits and social trust of whites. Our center has collapsed.
        And the Jewish Question is a far bigger (and more creepy and insidious) problem than the black one for whites like myself.
        I mean no ill will to blacks like you or anybody else (even Jews, on an individual basis). But we Whites must have a land of our own.

  36. The Tawana Brawley false rape accusation and the false rape accusation against the Duke Lacrosse players come to mind. Change the title to “Are women and their many white knight slaves the greatest threats to men?”

    1. Ah, but that would deny Mr. McGinnis the chance to show off that racial chip on his shoulder and do his usual Al Sharpton-comes-to-the-manosphere routine about how unfair the mean ol’ white establishment is to poor innocent Kneegrow males.

      1. Oh I say old chap you may have just stumbled upon the truth of the matter.
        How shocking we must preserve it for posterity so it can be shown to future generations!
        And by future generations I mean every other anti-white post this guy does.

  37. Da brothers be all oppressed and shit.
    I truly do not care. “Diversity”. It is the same nonsensical bullshit as feminism. It gives unqualified shitbags seats in universities and jobs that they did not earn.
    I will no sooner welcome a black into my home than I would a feminist.
    And yes, I will be at the polls to vote against welfare, and for Stand your Ground laws.

    1. Segregation was both better for blacks and for whites. Blacks owned businesses and were doing well financially…just like Black Wall Street that Athlone mentioned above. Affirmative Action has stained the black community negatively. You think that diversity gives unqualified blacks seats in universities and employment, but how can a qualified black prove that he honestly earned his seat? The prejudiced will always credit Affirmative Action.
      As a black man, I may never be welcomed to your home, but that’s okay. Any man in need or emergency will find no safer haven than under my roof. I don’t care if he’s white or not…but I wouldn’t be surprised if you declined any help from me.

      1. Any man in need or emergency will find no safer haven than under my roof. I don’t care if he’s white or not..
        Well said.
        I think another cool black dude like you said something similar a long time ago. I think it was something like;
        “I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.
        Role models come in all colors.
        Thanks.
        A white dude.

        1. That same guy you quote used to frequent prostitutes. The white ones he enjoyed beating the shit out of. Even on the night before he was assassinated, he put two whores in the hospital. But you go on quote a degenerate. I have much more respect for honest black men like Malcolm X.

  38. I saw Rosewood when I was 12. It was the very first DVD in the house at the time. It may not have been completely accurate, but it still left me disturbed that it was based on true events.

  39. should’ve known athlone mcginnis was jamaalin’ by his previous “fuck anything that moves” articles on ROK
    the narrative as presented thus far: “finger bang drunk sluts for t-shirts from a shitty DJ by any means necessary BUT IF SHES WHITE WATCH OUT CUZ RACISM!!”
    at least this place was congruent when it RV & Tuth throwing rocks at fat chicks

  40. Is it ironic that feminists don’t jump on this article like they did to Thmosis. Don’t both articles offend women?…

    1. Why would this article offend women? This article is a politically correct indictment of “racist” America society. Most feminists would agree with most of what’s in this article. What they don’t agree with, they will overlook, because mutual hatred of the “white man” tops gender-issues on the far-left totem pole.

  41. While you site very good specific cases, there is a larger picture as well.
    White women drive contemporary feminism. Contemporary feminist ideology is the driving force behind outrageous federal laws such as the Violence Against Women Act (VAWA). VAWA is implemented mostly at the local level, with crazy domestic violence laws like mandatory arrest and the presumption that the man in the situation is the culprit. The basis for VAWA has been thoroughly discredited, yet every time it comes up for renewal, it gets not just renewed, but expanded. Now it covers things like “date rape,” focused especially on high schools and colleges and designed to assume men are perpetrators of rape.
    VAWA hurts all men. It destroys our Constitutional rights and makes every interaction with a woman precarious to say the least. But who does it hurt the most? The black man.
    The most peculiar political alliance I know of is that between feminists and black Americans. I can not think of any group that does more harm to blacks than feminists. Yet, they have fooled black Americans into believing that they are all in the “social justice” fight together.
    That is nonsense. The civil rights movement and related laws are for black people. Their ancestors were once slaves. White feminists hijacked that movement for their own interests.
    The result is that young black men are in worst shape than they have been in since slavery. A majority of them do not have a father in their lives. Their high school graduation rates are dismal. Their prospects for college – unless they are exceptional athletes – are even worse. Their incarceration rates are off the charts. And they suffer such high rates of unemployment that it is no wonder than so many of them turn to crime.
    Who did all of this for them? Well, they have been told that it is “the white man” that did this to them. No. The white woman did this to them. In particular, the white feminist.

  42. There’s tons of white male hamstering going on here. Blacks only date ugly, fat, molested, mentally unstable (insert whatever you want here) white women. Simply not true. That’s what you want to happen, in order to protect your believe system that your good honorable white women would never be attracted to a black man. Yes, there are many examples of that stereotype, but there is a significant minority (heh) of cases where there is a successful, good looking black man dating a normal, attractive, and otherwise desirable white female. It happens, and if you run in successful circles ( elite lawyers, doctors, from ivy league or equivalent schools) you will see this happening quite frequently as of late. It’s a fact of life now. Please don’t let your latent racism get in the way of these facts.
    P.S Interesting to see dude’s that pride themselves on being rational and logical come out swinging with irrationality and garbage when you talk about race. Need to stop losing your cool when it comes to highly emotional issues.

    1. Yet you fail to realize that you are just the opposite side of that same coin. Read between the lines of what you commented — “your good honorable white women would never be attracted to a black man.” Again, demonstrating that dating white women is a source of pride and a way of sticking it to the white man.
      “but there is a significant minority (heh) of cases where there is a
      successful, good looking black man dating a normal, attractive, and
      otherwise desirable white female.”
      “Minority” being the key word there. General observations are based on the majority rule, not the exception.

      1. You’re misunderstanding him there, referring to ‘good honorable’ women is only done to contrast them with the damaged ones. His point is that (according to him) white betas want to believe that the only white women capable of going for black men must be damaged in the first place. Dating white women isn’t a source of pride in and of itself – it’s dating a good honorable woman, regardless of race.
        Any man who dates someone for the sole purpose of ‘sticking it to the white man,’ or has a sense of pride solely because the girl is of a certain race probably isn’t that successful to begin with or is betraying a massive character flaw and probably can be eliminated immediately from the ‘high quality man’ strata.
        As for the point about a low percentage of blacks in elite circles, people often use that fact to erroneously intimate that this relative under performance is intrinsic to black people as opposed to decades of exposure to the negative feedback loop that is state sponsored welfare and entitlement culture. The perverse nature of it all is that ht probably will get far worse before it gets better, unless by some miracle the Thomas Sowells of the world replace the Al Sharptons as the loudest black voices.

    2. No white man with any balls or self-worth would ever enter into any kind of LTR with a white woman that a black man has tainted. We can do better. We have access to the higher quality women of our own race.

    3. I’m at the top of the class hierarchy to the extent where those “top” people you mention, those doctors, lawyers blah blah blah are basically our servants and hired help and I have never seen this white/black mixing that you imagine. You get that from watching the boobtube? Boobtube watchers are disproportionally non whites with no lives or anything to do so the Network caters to their fantasies and what they want to see. In reality, the only sort of mixing I’ve seen is between whites and perhaps some upper class Japanese or something of that nature. I’ve known of exactly 1 case of black man married to white female(I’m talking here in real life and not someone I don’t know or just read about) and it was Arthur Ashe who lived in my area back in the 80’s (I never saw or met him)

      1. Really? Japanese?
        Don’t they have small dicks, inferior genetics, short height and the whole baggage of non-masculinity and non-athletic genetics? I assume you are talking about Asians in general, b/c for an Asian to date a Caucasian women (hot ones), they would have to be a multi-millionaire and/or super rich. By mixing do you mean just talking?
        Just look at that Rocky Aoki, the guy had to have nearly 20 million just to attract a gold digger White wife and gave birth to a fugly ass mixed race daughter abberration. Supposedly these fugly Japanese dude attracted miss Iceland, but then I can’t understand White women and why they would be attracted to an Asian monkey and/or breed with one.

  43. Nice article. Unfortunately this site has been flooded with “red pill” racists over the past year or so, so any time an article that deals with race is published you can guarantee there will be a bunch of angry white beta males mad at blacks and women for taking away their power commenting on it. This crowd relies heavily on ad hominem attacks, racial bigotry, and “I know you are but what am I” tactics befitting of third graders. But I digress: as a black male I am very aware of the potential “danger” I face dating white women. It is the same “danger” all males face when dating broken, insecure women liable to scream “rape,” only when you’re black, it’s magnified. Hell, it happened to my father. Some white girl accused him of raping her when he was a teenager after he piped her down. Fortunately the letters she wrote him detailing her sexual desires for the mandingo stick saved him. It’s fucked up but it is what it is. Fact is, society doesn’t want to see us with white girls. White girls who have sex with black dudes are considered whores and I know plenty of white dudes who wouldn’t touch a white girl who slept with a black dude. Talk about insecurity. But after my ex (who was a white German girl) told her friend that “all niggers are the same,” I had to cut her loose and lay off white women for a while.

    1. plenty of white dudes who wouldn’t touch a white girl who slept with a black dude. Talk about insecurity.

      Typo. You meant: “Talk about avoidance of potential exposure to HIV infection, as well as gonorrhea and herpes, which are passed about at extraordinarily high rates in the black community.”

      But after my ex (who was a white German girl)

      I love how black guys always make sure to slip in a reference to that one totally NON-BLACK girlfriend they once had. Your pedestalization of white flesh is obvious, as always.

      Fact is, society doesn’t want to see us with white girls.

      Right, it’s just Whitey. Tell you what: check with the various Hispanic, Asian, Middle Eastern and Jewish communities sometime and see how much they can’t wait for their little darlings to bring home a Demarius or a Kwandrick.

        1. Thanks for illustrating my point about black men’s inability to confront — or even respond to — uncomfortable truths.
          You rely on feminine shaming tactics to insult those willing to stare head-on at the truths which you steadfastly deny… and somehow, I’m the “beta.” Interesting.

        2. There is no point arguing with ignorance. The “uncomfortable truths” you presented are the same old re-hashed “black guys have STDs, black guys love white skin, etc.” arguments. I refuse to engage in a conversation that does not hold any value.

        3. Of course.
          Facts and statistics are raaaaay-cist.
          The rates of HIV and STD transmission put out by the Center for Disease Control are raaaaay-cist.
          My own past experience working with HIV lab results — in which 99% of all cases were either gay males, blacks or Hispanics — is raaaaay-cist.
          Thanks for demonstrating once again that the great majority of black males will never truly be red-pill.

        4. See what I mean? There is no point in arguing with you, because no matter what I say you will resort to the same childish tactics. You completely take what I say out of context and claim I am crying about “raaaaycism.” Meanwhile only one point you made out of all the other points can be at least somewhat verified by “stats.” The rest of your points — that all black men love white women, etc. — are based on pure stereotype and bigotry. It’s a shame that this site went from a good place for all men regardless of race to learn to a forum for people like you add nothing of value to the conversation. I’m done. Peace.

        5. You put “stats” in quotation marks, implying that you doubt their veracity. Here you go:
          http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/racialethnic/aa/facts/index.html

          “African Americans are the racial/ethnic group most affected by HIV in the United States.”

          As to the other points I made:
          Yes, silly me for not having verifiable stats to prove my job history to a stranger over the internet. Of course, the veracity of the above CDC link is undeniable. So it probably stands to reason that I’m not just engaging in “stereotypes and bigotry” when I state that my hands-on experience processing HIV lab data is borne out by the CDC’s findings.
          And point out to me where I said that all black men “love white women”?

        6. Chill out , ‘Writer With A Dick’. You seem angry and emotional, clinging to your beliefs with silly rhetorical bouts, like ” raaaaaay-cist”, all while committing the logical (and statistical) fallacy of saying avoidance of black people is a dominate strategy to avoid HIV etc. The population of blacks that have HIV is highly concentrated in poor, ghetto locations, and the vast majority of blacks that sleep with white women are middle, upper-middle, and upper-class blacks.

        7. Seriously just make fun of him and enjoy it, he has dick in his name so it is obvious what he is here for. Please don’t take him seriously , he is not here for that. It is like taking a street hooker to Morton’s Steakhouse, that’s not what her purpose is. Ultra Vires so to speak.

        8. “The population of blacks that have HIV is highly concentrated in poor,
          ghetto locations, and the vast majority of blacks that sleep with white
          women are middle, upper-middle, and upper-class blacks.”
          It has been my experience that individuals with “Writer With A Dick”‘s point of view don’t tend to make much of a distinction between these groups.
          A black is a black. I don’t think you’ll convince him of any other view. I could be wrong, but that’s my expectation.

      2. sheieit i hate chinese cuz chinese be raciss, i hate mexicans cuz mexicans be raciss, i hate jews cuz jews be raciss, i hate koreans cuz koreans be raciss. YEAH thats right tyrone the whole world is raciss and against you ! YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE YOU ARE THE PROBLEM!!!!

        1. One interesting thing that I’ve noted is how virtually every culture or nationality I’ve come across has a word for “nigger.” Guess that’s just due to “media stereotypes”…

    2. “plenty of white dudes who wouldn’t touch a white girl who slept with a black dude. Talk about insecurity.”
      I wouldn’t touch a white girl who had been with a donkey, either. It’s the same thing in my book.

      2. Your experience with donkey sexuality is greatly appreciated. Please write a post about your donkey lovin’ flags.

  44. Feminists have damaged black men by incentivizing degenerate behavior and passive-aggressive dependency through their control of education and public welfare systems, among other institutions.
    Black fellows cannot fully emerge as men until they cast off these feminist shackles and extend their hand in friendship and respect to the only demographic on the planet that truly can or will ever help them : white males. So long as feminists demonize us they succeed in keeping you down so they can portray themselves as your savior.
    Pass the bottle.

    1. Maybe White men can help, but WILL White men help us? I don’t think so. i think that White men would be happier cock-blocking me when I try to get Asian women than helping. I’ll help myself then.

      1. I would be glad to help you get females from the Philippines (they’re fugly looking anyway) and any girl you want from New Guinea, Borneo or Tonga :o) Wouldn’t cock block you at all.

        2. I’d help. Not particularly experienced myself, but I’d love to have a wing man in Japan next time I’m out there.
          Don’t get too discouraged, the WN element is much smaller on reality than in comment sections, in my humble opinion.

        3. george, korean,ne chinese and north japan girls are the best, hardworking , smart, cute, friendly, sweet ! not all girls in the philippines are fugly, yes most are, many look like trannies or monkies and are dumb but there are some who have mixed blood and are nice looking and smart. just have to look

  46. I can’t help but to think, that in the 60’s, the black man was rising. Looking at old pics of the time, and reading about the times, you can conclude that the black community had low rates of illegitimacy and fatherlessness, as well as most blacks seeking steady employment, and staying away from violence and crime. In how it was going, things should’ve been looking very good for the black community.
    “I pass this, and I’ll have those niggers voting democrat for the next 200 years.” – Lyndon B. Johnson.
    Right here, is where it all came unraveled. People like saying how we conservatives are racist, but truth is, we’re just disappointed.

    1. I forgot to mention Athlone McGinnis’ other article, “How Black America Predicted the Future” (I think that’s what it’s called, I need to reread it) illustrates all that I mentioned.

  48. White women or white men a threat? Black men as a threat to white men? Women follow the authority and mission of the superative authority with fervent amorality. I think what was described was basically civil war between rival patriarchies not neatly THE black patriarchy vs. THE white patriarchy accept for the simpleminded. The war was white betas protecting their claims on white pussy from blacks but not white banksters, and the blacks were sometimes more successful and capable that their white enemy. Yes, it happens not infrequently for dumbfuck whites who must lean on race. I don’t feel any political fellowship with dumbfucks, period. I don’t have a dog in every fight either. (Cf. the Middle-east.) I think we blue-pilly presume too much agency of women first and dumbass men second. In an open fight of red-pill transparency, the cream will rise to the top and rule in a private free market of violence and ideas. Women are more a political resource of men than anything if rescued by cultural men from the wilds that is their natural habitat, byproduct, and worldview.

  49. Of course many of the white males on ROK have disagreed with this post. I expected that because most (not all) white people just cannot accept that racism continues in our country. Even when presented with compelling evidence. Still, this is such a small sample of the repeated incidents People of color must deal with daily. Those who disagree most likely already had their minds made up before reading. Maybe its just a result of not being able to walk in another mans shoes and to see what its like to not be white in America. I would think men attracted to this site would be a bit more open minded but i guess not.

    1. I think more people are open- minded than it seems. I enjoyed this article, but it’s perfect troll bait, thus the idiotic porn pics and vapid white nationalist obsessions.
      How can I as an abused-boy turned aspiring alpha turn my back on other men and boys in crisis, especially those right in the blue pill social crosshairs? Race is a dividing factor in real life but there are some issues that should be transcendent.

  50. What a progressive article. I found it to be crap. A drunk black strippers accusation of rape no matter how false it sounds is enough to Snap into action full state power against white Ivey leaguers. Black people vote left and are their own greatest threat. Forced multiculturalism is a joke and the weaponized “minority” voting block grows. Thank you left/feminism

  51. I thought the article was disappointing.
    1. It ignored (or at least failed to explain) how false accusations by black women have harmed black men just as much (e.g. Brian Banks), how false accusations by black women towards white men have harmed white men (e.g. the Duke Lacrosse Case) and how white men have been wrongly convicted based on unsubstantiated claims by white women. It seems to be more of a problem of false accusation than about race. It is true that in the past claims of rape by black women against white men weren’t taken seriously and that claims of rape by white women against black men were automatically assumed to be true, but I don’t think that is the case in 2013.
    2. While in the past, black men had a good reasons to fear false rape accusations by white women, in the present day, much of that risk has been reduced. In the Marcus Dixon case, he wasn’t convicted due to a racist law but because of an archaic statutory rape statute. While Darrell Williams was accused without evidence, there are still white men out there that have been prosecuted for rape without much evidence either. There does not seem to be a modern day epidemic of white women falsely accusing black men of rape.
    3. Expanding on point three, in one of the highest profile black on white rape cases of the past 10 or so years, the Kobe Bryant case, he seems to have been treated fairly and not falsely convicted. You may say that Kobe only got off because he was rich, but then again, hasn’t that always been the case? That rich men are less likely to go to jail than poor men? Legal and wealth protections exist nowadays that helps to protect against false convictions based on racism.

  52. Questions based on comments I saw while skimming the comments section:
    1. If white women are a status symbol for black men then why aren’t all, or at least the vast majority, of black millionaires and celebrities dating or married to a white woman? Don’t they want a white trophy wife too and the supposedly higher status that comes with it?
    2. Who exactly respect black men more for having a white wife? The black community is not going to respect a black man more for having a white wife and neither the white community. So who exactly are these rich black guys showing their trophy white wife to?
    3. Who exactly are all these black male celebrities, athletes and millionaires dating depraved and obese white women? Name them.
    4. If black guys are “sticking it to the man” by dating white women but all the white women that black guys are dating are obese depraved in some way, why would you care that black men are dating white women? Matter of fact, wouldn’t you be laughing at black men dating white women, since all these white women are depraved anyway?
    5. If 80% of black guys’ self worth is based on dating and attracting a white woman, then why do the vast majority of black guy date and marry black women? How come there are many black guys that have not dated a white woman and many who aren’t attract to white women?

    1. 1. “why aren’t all, or at least the vast majority, of black millionaires and celebrities dating or married to a white woman?” — Most of them are.
      2.”So who exactly are these rich black guys showing their trophy white wife to?” – Other black guys and white people.
      3. “Who exactly are all these black male celebrities, athletes and millionaires dating depraved and obese white women? Name them.” — Lamar Odom, Kanye West, name any famous black guy dating a white woman and I’ll show you a gold digger or a mentally deranged individual.
      4. “Matter of fact, wouldn’t you be laughing at black men dating white women, since all these white women are depraved anyway?” — We are laughing — you just don’t see it because it’s behind your back. There are few things as funny to me as seeing a normal looking black guy walking around with an obese, nasty looking white girl and knowing he thinks he’s a “playa.”
      5.” If 80% of black guys’ self worth is based on dating and attracting a white woman, then why do the vast majority of black guy date and marry black women?” — Because they can’t find a half-way decent looking white girl who will date them.

      1. 1.Prove it. You are making the claim, so where are the statistics?
        2. No one praises black men for dating white women. And if I am wrong about that, show me all of these black and white men that praise black men for dating white women. Where are these imaginary people, Nathan? In fact it is the opposite. Blacks and whites either are indifferent about it or don’t like it.
        3. Armenians aren’t “white”. You put the Kardashian sisters in the room full of native Germans, Scandavians, Irish and other Western European and they will stick out like a sore thumb. They would be more in place in a room with other Middle Easterns. Moreover, you are the one making the claim, sir. You present the evidence of deranged white girls dating black guys…otherwise I’ll just assume you are making nonsense up. Apparently you have some type of superpower where you can look at a white girl and tell she is deranged. That’s impressive.
        4. Again, show me all these successful black men dating obese white women, since that is your claim. And even if you were right, why does it bother you so much if black men are banging fat and ugly white girls? Why are you concerned with what another man does with his penis?
        5. Again, no evidence. Apparently lack of evidence is evidence to you. You seem to believe black men are obsessed with white women for some reason, even though there is no evidence to support it. Why do you want black men to chase after white women so much?

        1. Armenians definitely are white, they are the same Caucasian race as Europeans but a different branch. There is no “Middle Eastern” race either, and most of them are also Caucasians as Europeans as are Indians but they are more pigmented while Europeans are depigmented Caucasians.

      2. “Most of them are.”
        This isn’t actually the case. Black millionaires/celebrities are far more likely than others to date white women, but the vast majority of them are still with black women or other non-whites.
        “name any famous black guy dating a white woman and I’ll show you a gold digger or a mentally deranged individual.”
        Sunnery James?
        Seal?
        Patrick Willis?
        Russell Wilson?
        Popeye Jones?

    2. Impermissible uppityness. You have exceeded your logic limit. Please stop with all that common sense!

  53. LO, No white women aren’t the greatest threat to successful black men. Ignorant, lazy, Black men that leach off women, live with their mothers or off their girlfriends are the greatest threat to successful black men. The image or lazy shiftless, ignorant black men is the greatest threat to black men. Black men who rob, rape, murder and steal are the greatest threat to successful black men. It is that image that is ingrained in societies mind of black men (that and big dicks which is only 65%-75% true lol).
    The image of FEAR that the media and bad black men has created is the greatest threat to black men.
    FEAR IS THE MIND KILLER – “DUNE”
    White women are just like all other women for men. The demographic is the same. You have your sluts, feminists, and good girls. White women have a reputation of being easier to live with black men and giving better blow jobs but they are pretty much just like all women that black men bang.
    And all this is coming from a black man.

      1. Not that it matters but actually I am black. I just can’t get behind the mentality some black men have of the “man” keeping them down or looking for a hand out. I can’t get behind SOME brothers always trying to find someone to blame for their lot in life. I can’t get behind SOME brothers never taking responsibility for themselves. It’s always someone else’s fault you are where you are. I can’t get behind SOME brothers blaming racism on everything. YES, there is racism in the world. YES, it will ALWAYS be there for ALL people, not just black. Black people don’t have the market cornered in having to deal with racism. It’s a fact of life, deal with it and move forward. ANYONE can be subjected to racism. Black people in the last 400 years have just had more than their fair share. Oh well! What, are we suppose to cry about it or deal with it and continue with our lives like always. No excuses. You are where you are cause that’s where you want to be. Period.

    2. Valid points. I’ll agree, black men are a greater threat to themselves than anyone else.

  55. Informative article, but not quite seeing the point Couple comments
    1. The white women weren’t the problem, rather it was the pathetic blue-pill white knight white males who had to “defend the honor” of the white girls.
    2. There is a shortage of quality black women. Most black prefer an attractive, light-skinned black girl with a sweet personality over a white chick. But this type of girl is very rare. There are not enough for them for all the eligible black men. It is only natural that they will look outside their race for girls.
    3. Decent looking, employed, educated black men can attain quality women of any race,and can probably fare better than white men in certain cities. Thankfully for white men, these types of black men are rare.

    1. Point well taken. With regard to your first, you’re right to say that it is not necessarily the white women themselves who create the problem, but the white-knighting socio-cultural narratives behind them that create issues (narratives animated mainly by blue pill white knights). That’s an important distinction to make with regard to this post.

    2. >> Decent looking, employed, educated black men can attain quality women of
      any race,and can probably fare better than white men in certain cities.
      That’s why it’s so important for marginally attractive white men to keep black men at the bottom of the SMV by thwarting their economic efforts and running a rearguard interference against any white woman who would consider a black man.
      Pay attention to the writings of the WNs on this posts and you will see the buttfear. Buttfear, is real, it’s all around us.

      1. you saying that there is some sort of conspiracy to keep black men down so they wont be able to get a white woman?! what have you been smoking ? the black men keep themselves down with booze, drugs, being lazy,stupid, stink etc and i really could care less if some skanky azz white woman wants to be with a groid

  58. What doesn’t add up in the Jameis Winston incident is there is absolutely no reason why his accuser would create a false allegation. Your article claims she did so out of “shame” but in our culture there is absolutely no shaming of legal aged adults engaged in mutually consensual sex. Its not only not shamed, its celebrated. Particularly sex with a high status alpha male at the top of his game, such as Jameis. If she did have consensual sex with him, it would be a bragging point and matter of pride.
    We are not living in India or Iran or any other arranged marriage culture where adults are shamed for having sex. Nor are we living in the 1700s. We are living in the 21st Century Sex Positive Pornified United States.

    1. She filed the charges in December of 2012, before Winston ever took a snap. The cops waited until November of 2013 to reveal the accusations.

      1. Right. That’s what I’m saying. Athlone’s analysis that she lodged shame based false allegations against him does not add up. There is even a 911 call, made by her friend requesting that police come to their residence and check her out. She says she was hit over the head and was knocked out.

        2. The caller told the dispatcher “you need to get over here”. I don’t know if law enforcement arrived on the scene or not. I’m not saying he definitely did knock her out. I just don’t know. The whole thing does not add up and in any case your theory about “shame” most certainly does not hold up in a culture that celebrates sex between consenting adults.

        3. Not just that. She said she was still semi-conscious enough to fight off Winston until a second male intervened. But then Winston promised the second male his turn afterward if he backed off, and the second male agreed. She was then raped by both, one after the other.
          The whole thing is way too convoluted for a false rape claim. The cliche scenario is that a woman sleeps with an alpha, then gets furious when she finds out days later she was just a ONS. Then the rape claim is filed. In this case, as soon as she sobered up, she went straight to the cops and the DNA samples of two men were found, one of which is positive for Winston.
          I honestly think he did it. But its unfortunate because now the pendulum has swung all the way to the opposite side, with rapists getting the benefit of the doubt even in ridiculous cases. Its going to keep happening until laws are passed that prosecute false rape accusers with serious time. Its a real shame.

        4. Wow Morris Q, I didn’t know all that. Was not the DNA from the second male found on her too?
          “The cliche scenario is that a woman sleeps with an alpha, then gets furious when she finds out days later she was just a ONS.”
          And its hogwash. Young people know the rules, they created them. Casual sex and friends with benefits are popular in college precisely because a certain % of college students do not want to “go steady” or have a serious committed relationship while they are that young. College is their time to party, blow off some steam and sow some wild oats, male and female alike.
          The shrill “false allegation” cries wafting in from the M-sphere are ridiculous and riding off of a paradigm so old that none of us using the internet ever lived through – that of “shame” over unmarried but legal aged adults having consensual sex with each other.
          False allegations during the Jim Crow Era? Maybe.
          Now? A bunch of hooey.

      2. He has national and international fame now but then he was still a campus and local celebrity. Again, consensual sex with a big man on campus is not a cause for shame but a cause for high fives.
        It doesn’t add up.

    2. You clearly did not read the post and the comments. It appears that not only did they know each other, they had “relations” before and after the alleged event occurred. And her sorority had a history of making false rape accusations.
      Read the comments on that post then google her name.

      1. I’ve done the googling and online research. There was a 911 call and she wanted the police to come to where she was. She claimed she had been hit on the head and rendered unconscious. What, you think people who had “relations” don’t commit crimes against each other?! I’m not convinced its a false allegation.

  59. Emmet Till had such a beautiful, cherubic and innocent face. That evil bitch and her disgusting white knights who killed this angelic little boy should have been tortured to death.

  60. And, all you “Justice 4 Trayvon” folk please note, Trayvon Martin is nowhere near any of this: no women (white or otherwise) were involved and Zimmerman’s injuries stopped when Trayvon caught lead (not to mention that Trayvon, full of blunt and purple drank, had plenty of time to go home before Zimmerman started getting pummeled). A modern day Emmett Till my ass.

  61. So, you have an article on a mens website about the dangers of white women to black men that now has comments from black women about white male “privledge” and about why educated black women are not desirable to black men.
    Ummmm. K.

      1. Hey, if this article brings black women to this website Im all for it. As a white dude I find black women are a lot friendlier than white women for the most part.

  62. While I like AG’s articles on other subjects, he is unfortunately also a race baiter. There is no point in having a discussion with him or any other black except the very few who resemble Thomas Sowell. AG and his brethren have no intention of listening. A “discussion” on race means to them lecturing and threatening while whites shut up and listen.
    This article made me realize something: Blacks are to the races what fat entitlted chicks with attitude are to the sexual market place. They demand that the world cater to their every whim and violently lash out when ignored, screaming endless victim hood while other races who have suffered just as much if not more get on with life and try to make something of themselves. Utterly narcissistic, solipsistic, and incapable of empathy, they simply are unable to put themselves in the shoes of others not like them to ponder if they themselves have flaws that need addressing. The idea that maybe, just maybe, their own behavior chosen of their own free will makes others not like them and fear them is utterly incomprehensible to them . Just like feminists, they create outlandish fantasies of persecution like “the patriarchy”. Instead for them they call it “The Man”, “Insitutional Racism”, “Disparate Impact”, “White Women” (in this case), or other such nonsense.
    BTW, before blaming white women, you might want to clean up your own house of out of this world hypergamic black women. I wish that I could find the article, but for women earning +$70K/year, black womens’ rate of illegitimacy is completely out of proportion with other races. That’s not racism, persecution, poverty, class, or some other outlandish “-ism”. That’s a choice.

    1. >> That’s not racism, persecution, poverty, class, or some other outlandish “-ism”. That’s a choice.
      And it’s coming your way, bud. Check your white male privilege.

      1. LOL – you mean the privilege of having to pay taxes and do the work of other non-asian-minorites (NAMs), especially female NAMs, at work? Wow, I feel so privileged that I had to study and work my ass off while NAMs got a free ride. I was especially privileged to watch my friends be threatened, assaulted, robbed, raped, and murdered by African Americans while they roamed the neighborhood I grew up in at night looking for people to attack, almost bringing it to its knees, while at the same time voting to prevent me the right of owning a gun to defend myself. Such a privilege.
        You have no idea how bad it is. All of the good will from the Civil Rights movement is GONE for every white guy with some balls under the age of 40 thanks to your antics over Zimmerman (the guy you went after because he had a Jewish sounding name). We don’t believe or trust you anymore.
        So you think you can kick all our asses? Are you sure about that? Ever notice how much of the population that you make up? Ever notice that you are no longer the largest minority, and the new largest doesn’t particularly care for you? Ever looked up the racial make up of US police forces, the US military (especially the part that actually pulls a trigger), or US Special Operations? If you push hard enough that they have to push back, whose side do you think they’ll take? Before you say Dear Leader Obama, you might want to look at the history of military coups in the Americas.

        1. Thanks for speaking so clearly and expressing why people like you will never win another election. You are the reason for feminism and the 47%. You lose.
          And, a tiny little FYI: the Zimmerman issue was driven by white media; take it up with them.

        2. LOL! Thanks to Dear Leader Obama’sCare, your pretty much screwed in 2014.
          Yeah, blacks and black anti-semitism had nothing to do w/Zimmerman. Keep dreaming there
          BTW, since Zimmerman was technically “1/2 white”, if Dear Leader Obama had shot Trayvon, would that have been a hate crime?

        3. BTW, are you capable of saying more “HaHa, Fuck you Honkey Weeze Rule and Youze Suck!”? It’s hard not to notice in your responses that you are only able to write 3 sentences. Your idiocy must be a terrible burden.

      2. “Check your white male privilege”
        OK, Nigger cunt, let’s assume “White male private” is a real thing. Why would I “Check It” because a brood sow told me to?
        P.S. My great great grandfather owned yours.

    2. “There is no point in having a discussion with him or any other black except the very few who resemble Thomas Sowell.”
      If you say so.

        1. Congratulations on answering “u mad?” to someone who asked you whether or not “u mad?” regarding your initially inquiring if “u mad?”
          What a relevant existence.

      1. obsolete farm equipment, and i really could care less if some nasty skanky white broad wants to be with a knee grow

      1. Keep in mind that you’re talking about the niggers and liberals that voted in a down low buck like Bathhouse Barry. Feral blacks are the perfect pawns for the secular liberals to use in their quest to socially destroy this country. Which they are in the process of doing now.

  66. Trayvon Martin was a moron who got shot for assaulting a complete stranger. How the fuck could you possibly drink the kool aid in this topic?
    The Emmett Till thing is disgusting though.

    1. Emmit Till bragged he was going to have sex with the white woman, walked into the store grabbed her breasts and had to be chased off by the woman’s sister with a gun. The woman’s husband demanded Till apologize and promise to stop his behavior, till refused and said he would **** any white woman he wanted. This was the deep south 1955 after given several chances to apologize he was finally considered dangerous sexual predator and shot.

    2. Black people want to have the privilege of pounding white skulls to the ground whenever white people are being douchebags. That would make for a much less chaotic society, wouldn’t it? Any time someone harasses you, attempt to murder them. At least if you’re black and they’re white.

  68. 60 percent of all violent felonies in this country are committed by 6% of the population. Black males. This is according to the DOJ and FBI crime stats.

    1. I am Black, educated, and I will tell you that it is a nonmajority segment of Blacks committing the crimes therefore making the rest of the Black community look bad. Most Blacks are not criminals.
      Also, I have dated cute/hot girls of every race. If a Black man is educated, has money, a normal white collar career and lives in a cool house/apartment, girls of all races make themselves available. Success does not see color. Also, none of my close Black male friends date Black girls, all have cute white/hispanic/asian girlfriends. I agree though that there are women who will NEVER date Black men: I just NEXT those women and talk to the ones who are open to it.

      1. 1/4 of your post discussing black criminals and 3/4 of your post discussing your sex life TNB always thinking about muh dikk

  69. This article has a lot of documented misinformation. The Tulsa riot, was in fact, a rape of a white girl by a violent, young black male. “not an assault” as this biased article portrays. The famous Emmet Till, incident was an attempted rape by a young, violent black male. The father, who passed his violent genes to the son, was executed for rape in ww2. I like how the author portrays all these black communities as super econmic success stories, like blacks are god gift for economic miracles. Are you fuckin kidding me! Whether is Detroit, e st Louis, Zimbabwe, blacks and their rule, fail.

    2. “This article has a lot of documented misinformation.”
      No, it doesn’t, but you’re free to believe that it does if that makes you feel better.

    3. Maybe black countries don’t prosper because their resources were raped by westerners to develop their own countries. You’re an idiot if you don’t recognize that the USA was built up by slavery which was free labor.

      1. from picking cotton ? what happened to the south during the war ? it was completely destroyed ! nothing left! what riches ?! the european countries took some resources from their colonies but very small due to equipment back then. the vast majority of the wealth still remains in their former colonies and yet those countries still languish in poverty and filth. go talk with peace corp volunteer who went to ape freaka and ask them about how lazy and stupid they are….

      2. Interestingly, many African nations were never touched by Europeans and to this day they live in pre-industrial era shitholes. Funny that…

        2. “Interestingly, many African nations were never touched by European”
          There are actually only two sub-saharan African nations that were never formally colonized by Europeans during the 19th century: Liberia and Ethiopia. Neither of these were untouched by Europeans (or Euro-descendants), however.
          Liberia was created by the largely white Anglo-Saxon run United States and, for decades, was run indirectly by American corporations with an Americo-Liberian elite taking the orders on the ground.
          Ethiopia was taken over by the Italians in the 1930s and colonized for a time.
          Either way, this notion that “many African nations were never touched by Europeans” is false.Just about all of them were in one way or another.

        5. I haven’t the time, want, need, inclination, or imperative to do the heavy lifting for the intellectually lazy and hopelessly myopic. Google— it’s what’s for breakfast!

      3. Africans captures and enslaved Africans. The Arabs and the Whites bought their slaves from Africans.
        The rest of what you wrote is more or less true. You shouldn’t have been inferior to the Whites and Arabs if you didn’t want to be our farm equipment.
        Remember all of those Japanese and Prussian slaves in Alabama? No? Huh, why were you property but not them?

  70. congratulations to Roosh and AG for trolling your own readership, nothing like a good ol’ heartiste-style race war to generate comments
    you guys make A Voice for Men look laudable, at least they focus on the ways in which we’re all marginalized from being “masculine men”

    1. nothing like a good ol’ heartiste-style race war to generate comments
      RealTalk™ hurts… rub a little vasoline on your vagina it will stop hurting soon enough.

    2. Chateau ButtHurtise
      If “Roissy” (protip: hasn’t been ROISSY writing these articles since 2010) was so alpha he’d have no need. It would be kicking a dead horse. CH (not Roissy)’s responses to commenters say all you need to know about that sites waning credibility.

  71. This comment section has deteriorated into racial pride, sexually based insult and aggressive interracial pornography. I love Return of Kings, this is excellent. I could never have frank conversation like this in real life, plus porn interludes, this is heat the Internet is all about.

  72. Do you really want to get into a discussion regarding who is truly a danger to whom? See latest FBI statistics regarding race of convicted rapists.

  73. Examples of black men getting falsely accused of rape? Central Park Five ring any bells?

  74. White women are evil bitches. Why do you think so many white men are going for Asian women?
    White women are fucking scum, they are the spawn of satan.

    1. exactly , thats why i could care less if the groids want them , they can have them ! give me a cute, sweet, intelligent asian girl any day of the week !

  79. I like the way niggers get treated in China.
    “You fuccky off ape monster gorilla face-man” I loved living in Beijing!

  80. You vile ugly sub human rock apes have no place in western society.
    Go back to the jungle where you can rape, murder & throw crap at each other.
    Perhaps keep a couple in a Zoo to remind people how bad you really are.

    1. Sounds like the rantings of someone who’s not getting any. Lol. You my friend suffer from a small dick syndrome.

  81. Real men look at these comments and fucking laugh.
    Pics of black porn cocks and white porn cum buckets does not change anything. Black society is in shambles and the rally cry is “we got big dicks and white wimmins”.

    1. So, that’s why you left your Utopia to comment here. How does your woman *feel* about black dicks? What’s her sample size?

  82. Cut the bs once and for all. Blacks or groids or negroes or porch monkeys or pavement apes or ni99ers or what ever you call them ARE GUILTY! Self hating wiggers need to stop protecting them and making excuses for the way ni99ers are.
    Ni99ers are by far more violent and is because of there race not lack of edumucation,poverty or social issues . Ni99ers are far more sexually inmoral. FACT ni99ers are not the same as YT. Segregation is the only way and was the way for thousands of years untill self hating wiggers changed that. WIGGERS AND NI99ERS ARE THE PROBLEM.

    1. Why do you guys have to bring your kkk shit to this website. Are there not enough places where you and David Duke can talk? Just like the feminists you always have to change the topic of conversation.
      Are you not doing what you accuse black men of doing, blaming your problems on others? The fact is if you are man living in America and you can’t make it, you are a loser. This is the greatest economy the world has ever known. And what problems are you talking about, this the greatest country the world has ever known, perhaps you should figure out why you can’t make it and why you have so many problems.

      1. I wasn’t blaming anyone for any problems I have personally. Whoever wrote this article is blaming problems that ni99er males have on YT wimmins. Instead of pointing out how evil ni99ers are by muhdiking YT wimminz the writer of this article tries to turn it and put it on YT, and yet you are saying I am the one blaming people. The greatest economy in the world? Because of your insisted diversh!tty right? There are many countries that are far wealthier per capita than the US today, and they are all far more segregated and one kind of people than the former US. This article proves how evil and hateful liberals like you are towards YT. Blaming white women for the failures of ni99ers that steal them for muhdikery is like blaming a victim of theft for the wrong done by the thief.I suppose according to you it was your beloved “minorities” and diversh!tty that makes this the greatest place in the world right? Give it some time and we will be more and more a third world sh!thole because of people like you. What will you be saying then? Still the white deBils fault right?
        Now go back to your sheboon your drilling oil with and your two weird looking sprog halfricoons.

      2. The world viewed by “LG”,
        White countries with roads,infrastructure,modern buildings,productive agriculture,arts,entertainment,world class heath care,violent crime almost unheard of = Bigoted,Hateful,Backwards.
        NOG countries filled with rampant violent crime,murders,rapes small stinky huts and shacks for homes,excrement running down the walk paths = A progressive society free of Hate!

  83. Ni99ers muhdik YT wimmins for the most selfish,evil and devious reasons and has nutthinz to do with LUB. Many GROID/YT “marriages” end up failing. Many many times the weird looking sprog halfricoon keedz are raised and cared for by the YT grandparents that the groid hates. While the groid is smirking and laughing on the insides at how stupid the low self esteem YT is that is with him.While his muhdiking her has to do with sex and lust for sure it has nothing at all to do with LUB. Most YT wimmins that offer their bodies to pavement apes are fat/ugly, and the few that are physically good looking always have some kind of mental problem and often are skanky and have the look of a burner on her face. It always goes in one direction and that is straight down aside from all the liberals that scream it is such a gooood thang. Any YT wimmins that hooks up with a black terd ni99er baboon just may earn the NBS award. (Nicole Br You Know).

      1. Since you are so sure about my personal life why don’t you honestly state what race or races you are comprised of? I will gladly state mine and yes it is white. Instead of taking my comments head on you accuse me of changing the subject when that is exactly what you do and also try to insult me by claiming I live an unsuccessfull life, but since you brought it up, I am debt free,my net worth is between 1.5 and 2 Million, out of 100 men pulled off the street I would be among the top 5 best looking(100 YT men) have a steady romantic partner of the same race and opposite gender and yes I do have a college degree. All of this is the truth if you believe it or not. So I guess I don’t have to be the medias image of a fat, hairy, unemployed redneck hillbilly who attends cross burnings and lives in the woods to be able to call ni99ers what they are ni99ers, and all sick pathetic bastards like you can do is fire back and scream hatebul n raaaaasisss. I am leaving for south Flawduh in 2 weeks for a winter relief and hope I don’t come across any unsuccesfull wiggers or pavement apes. I have the chimpout ni99er world atlas so I have a pretty good idea of areas to avoid and am a legal handgun owner. Looking forward to some warmth and sunshine before I return to my peaceful crime free YT neighborhood.

    2. Now instead of talking men and their relationships with women. Perhaps we should discuss how you came to the conclusion that white is spelled “yt.” Did your pappy teach you that?

    3. Also how come you can’t get anybody to agree with you, roosh put up a site and got people to follow him and write articles for him. Where is your sure, where are your friends?

  84. the white man should have killed you groids off when they had the chance, while you were playing with sticks and putting discs in your lips we had already developed rifles

    1. Actually it was Asians who discovered gunpowder.
      And in fact the next weaponry invention you could POSSIBLY think of was created by an Arabic, not a honkey.
      The more you know, retard.

      1. The car, the rifle, the airplane, gravity, the discovery of heliocentric solar system, first splitting the atom (manhattan project), the first space travel and mission to the moon (Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin), The computer, THE FUCKING INTERNET YOU FAGGOT. Practically everything you enjoy today at your modern convenience was created and engineered by a white man. Show a little respect you fucking worthless piece of shit. Yeah the more you know. And you know very little.

        1. White man or jew man?
          Have you seen the dna test of the wright brothers… you might want to rethink that.

      2. Yes discovered gunpowder. and neglected to do anything significant with this discovery. It was Europeans who first used it in any significant way. Everyone just hates to acknowledge the facts when it comes to history but theres a fucking reason we are speaking English right now and not Mandarin. There is a reason the fucking native people of South America are speaking European languages Spanish and Portuguese. No one wants to admit it.

    2. And arguably if the Greeks employed their technology to destroy the Anglo race wouldn’t even exist.
      They had flamethrowers when white Brittanical females were still painting themselves blue and beating their breasts during wartime.
      Fucking retard.

        1. Uhhh durrr, First European was black and so was ancient greece… google is your friend dumb fuck.

        3. Not according to the leading linguist from Oxford and France who have now proved the ancient greeks spoke a niger-congo language. Your just mad the first europeans and ancient greeks were black and you can’t except that.

        4. Have you seen the statues and carvings? Not negroid. The only thing that greeks and negros have in common is a propensity for male on male butt sex.

        5. Yes I have been to Greece several times and seen the “statues and carvings and most of the originals are indeed black looking.
          Most of the so called whites ones are just modern plaster fakes created in places like the Cambridge plaster museums or other 900 plaster museums.
          White?
          http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5b/Rhyton_African_Cdm_Paris_1238.jpg
          Ancient Greek Vase
          Ancient Greek war, 2 black men.
          http://www.as-jif.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/greeS.jpg
          Ancient Greece Bust
          http://img.scoop.it/O25eYKcYUG2HvpFiC0X2Jjl72eJkfbmt4t8yenImKBVvK0kTmF0xjctABnaLJIm9
          Greek youth
          http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Images_Minoan/Black_youth_2.jpg
          Odysseus and circe
          http://www.utexas.edu/courses/introtogreece/lect6/bOdyCircParod0010030500.jpg
          It is generally accepted among even the eurocentric historians that Odysseus was black.
          Black Odysseus, White Caesar: When Did “White People” Become “White”?
          James H. Dee
          The Classical Journal
          Vol. 99, No. 2 (Dec., 2003 – Jan., 2004), pp. 157-167
          Published by: The Classical Association of the Middle West and South
          “Reasons behind the conclusion that Roman general Julius Caesar is a white person and Odysseus is a black person; Significance of Romance philology to the classical origin of colors; Background on the involvement of Europeans in African slave-trading.
          http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/Arts/Polyphemos/Polyphemos1.jpg
          Odysseus certainly does look black and is considered to be black.
          The reality is the most famous greek stories, homer and the odyssey and troy are about black people. The first about Odysseus the later Memnon.
          Aegean Islanders in the Tomb of Rekhmire 1400 bce Original from Egypt, Upper Egypt; Thebes, Sheikh Abd el-Qurna, Tomb of Rekhmire (TT 100), MMA graphic expedition, 1926
          http://images.metmuseum.org/CRDImages/eg/web-large/33.8.1_EGDP012991.jpg
          But then again, you probably don’t even know what Aegean means.
          Minoan
          http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Images_Minoan/Minoan_fresco.jpg
          http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Images_Minoan/Akrotiri_Frescoe_3.jpg
          sokrates
          http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Whites/sokrates.jpg
          Greek Royal
          http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Images_Minoan/Vase.jpg
          http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Images_Minoan/Group_2.jpg
          This is what the actual frescoes look like, they are clearly black people. Most modern Greeks are white skinned peoples except the stupid ones spraying on tan, most of the images of ancient greeks are darker than the typical african american.
          http://media.lonelyplanet.com/lpi/198/198-28/681×454.jpg
          Probably you seen images like this
          http://www.corbisimages.com/images/DE005854.jpg?size=67&uid=56a0e7ba-f875-4e1d-bf3a-1f6b193344e1&uniqID=b611b4d9-de0b-4b66-9395-e48063c9593b
          And assumed the ancient Greeks were white based on that and media portrayals. There is no need for insults or racism.
          When you understand modern Greeks are often very whitejust as white as the rest of europe from a physical standpoint, it becomes even more ridiclous to think these black images are “dark white” peoples
          here is a greek female athlete who trains outdoors and spends lots of time outdoors, one would expect her to be darker than the average greek
          http://www.brobible.com/files/uploads/made/files/uploads/images/sports/olympics/racist-greek-olympian_640_545_s_c1_c_t_0_0.jpeg
          Here are greek farmers
          http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a3/Group_of_workers_harvesting_tea_Chakva_Prokudin-Gorsky.jpg/685px-Group_of_workers_harvesting_tea_Chakva_Prokudin-Gorsky.jpg
          Any how dna seems to support the fact that the ancient greeks were black.
          Phylogeographic analysis of haplogroup E3b (E-M215) y chromosomes reveals multiple migratory events within and out of Africa.
          Cruciani F, La Fratta R, Santolamazza P, Sellitto D, Pascone R, Moral P, Watson E, Guida V, Colomb EB, Zaharova B, Lavinha J, Vona G, Aman R, Cali F, Akar N, Richards M, Torroni A, Novelletto A, Scozzari R.
          Source
          Dipartimento di Genetica e Biologia Molecolare, Universita “La Sapienza,” 00185 Rome, Italy.
          “Although E-M78β and E-M78γ show only modest levels of gene flow (from northern Africa to Europe and from eastern to northern Africa, respectively), the clinal frequency distribution of E-M78α within Europe testifies to important dispersal(s), most likely Neolithic or post-Neolithic. These took place from the Balkans, where the highest frequencies are observed, in all directions, as far as Iberia to the west and, most likely, also to Turkey to the southeast. Thus, it appears that, in Europe, the overall frequency pattern of the haplogroup E-M78, the most frequent E3b haplogroup in this region, is mostly contributed by a new molecular type that distinguishes it from the aboriginal E3b chromosomes from the Near East. These data are hard to reconcile with the hypothesis of a uniform spread of a single Near Eastern gene pool into southeastern Europe. On the other hand, they might be consistent with either a small-scale leapfrog migration from Anatolia into southeastern Europe at the beginning of the Neolithic or with an expansion of indigenous people in southeastern Europe in response to the arrival of the Neolithic cultural package. At the present level of phylogenetic resolution, it is difficult to distinguish between these possibilities.”
          e-m78 occurs highest in the borana from kenya at 78%. The peer reviewed document makes it clear that e-m78 went from northern africa into europe and from eastern africa into northern africa. In otherwords, people from east africa moved north to north africa and then into europe (the only way you can pretty much most obvious way to get to europe from east africa by land. The neolithic or post neolithic makes is clear that around the neolithic and post neolithic age or bronze age ie. when ancient greece was just starting black africans from east africa arriving into greece. This shuts down the no blacks in ancient greece but slaves. These people were clearly the founders who had been arriving from the neolithic and post neolithic era and spread all over europe and turkey.
          “E3b—that is, it had (1) the highest number of different E3b clades (table 1), (2) a high frequency of this haplogroup and a high microsatellite diversity, and, finally, (3) the exclusive presence of the undifferentiated E3b* paragroup.
          Our data show that haplogroup E3b appears as a collection of subclades with very different evolutionary histories. Haplogroup E-M78 was observed over a wide area, including eastern (21.5%) and northern (18.5%) Africa, the Near East (5.8%), and Europe (7.2%), where it represents by far the most common E3b subhaplogroup. The high frequency of this clade (table 1) and its high microsatellite diversity suggest that it originated in eastern Africa, 23.2 ky ago (95% CI 21.1–25.4 ky)”
          Translation e1b1b or e3b (same thing different names) originates in east africa
          “The relatively high frequency of DYS413 24/23 haplogroup E chromosomes in Greece (A.N., unpublished data) suggests that cluster α of the E-M78 haplogroup is common in the Aegean area, too.”
          Greeks particularly in the Aegean have dna originating in africa. They were never involved in the african slave trade, the greeks themselves were enslaved by turks during colonialism.
          “The cluster E-M78γ was found in eastern Africa at an average frequency of 17.7%, with the highest frequencies in the three Cushitic-speaking groups: the Borana from Kenya (71.4%), the Oromo from Ethiopia (32.0%), and the Somali (52.2%).”
          Probably why they excluded these groups and did not look at y-dna when testing the dna of the minoans.
          “In conclusion, we detected the signatures of several distinct processes of migration and/or recurrent gene flow associated with the dispersal of haplogroup E3b lineages.Early events involved the dispersal of E-M78δ chromosomes from eastern Africa into and out of Africa, as well as the introduction of the E-M34 subclade into Africa from the Near East. Later events involved short-range migrations within Africa (E-M78γ and E-V6) and from northern Africa into Europe (E-M81 and E-M78β), as well as an important range expansion from the Balkans to western and southern-central Europe (E-M78α). This latter expansion was the main contributor to the present distribution of E3b chromosomes in Europe.”
          In otherwords, European E is of african origin (like all E) and represent black african migration into europe going back to the neolithic period and post neolithic period.
          “The two E-M78 chromosomes found in Pakistan, at the eastern borders of the area of dispersal of haplogroup E3b, also belong to cluster δ. On the basis of these data, we suggest that cluster δ was involved in a first dispersal or dispersals of E-M78 chromosomes from eastern Africa into northern Africa and the Near East. Time-of-divergence estimates for E-M78δ chromosomes suggest a relatively great antiquity (14.7±2.7 ky) for the separation of eastern Africans from the other populations. A later range expansion from the Near East or, possibly, from northern Africa would have introduced E-M78 cluster δ into Europe. However, given the low frequencies of E-M78δ, it seems to have contributed only marginally to the shaping of the present E-M78 frequency distribution in Africa and western Eurasia. Indeed, later (and previously undetected) demographic population expansions involving clusters α in Europe (TMRCA 7.8 ky; 95% CI 6.3–9.2 ky), β in northwestern Africa (5.2 ky; 95% CI 3.2–7.5 ky), and γ in eastern Africa (9.6 ky; 95% CI 7.2–12.9 ky) should be considered the main contributors to the relatively high frequency of haplogroup E-M78 in the surveyed area.”
          the results when it proved blacks were in Europe 6300 – 9200 years ago or 4300-7200 bc, black east africans from kenya with the e-m78 haplogroup showed up in europe so they through away the results and claimed it was undetected.
          “E3b1-M78 is the most common haplogroup E lineage in Europe (Cruciani et al. 2004; Semino et al. 2004). The spatial pattern shown in figure 4(C) depicts a nonuniform E3b1 geographic distribution with a frequency peak centered in south Europe and SEE (13%–16% in southern Italians and 17%–27% in the Balkans). Declining frequencies are evident toward western (10% in northern and central Italians), central, and eastern Europe (from 4% to 10% in Polish, Russians, mainland Croatians, Ukrainians, Hungarians, Herzegovinians, and Bosnians). Noteworthy is a low E3b1 frequency (5%) in Turkey. Apart from its presence in Europe and the Middle East, E3b1 is also found in eastern and northern Africa. Cruciani et al. (2004) estimated that E3b-M78 might have originated in eastern Africa about 23.2 KYA (95% confidence interval [CI] 21.1–25.4).”
          High-Resolution Phylogenetic Analysis of Southeastern Europe Traces Major Episodes of Paternal Gene Flow Among Slavic Populations
          Marijana Peričić*, 1 , Lovorka Barać Lauc*, 1 , Irena Martinović Klarić*, Siiri Rootsi†, Branka Janićijević*, Igor Rudan‡§, Rifet Terzić∥, Ivanka Čolak¶, Ante Kvesić¶, Dan Popović*, Ana Šijački#, Ibrahim Behluli**, Dobrivoje Đorđevi憆, Ljudmila Efremovska††, Đorđe D. Bajec#, Branislav D. Stefanović#, Richard Villems† and Pavao Rudan*
          So, do the eurocentricks want to explain why they have a haplogroup originating in Africa 23,000 years ago at 27% in places where black people supposedly never were?
          Black dna, black art, black literature, black niger-congo language. All the evidence proves they indeed were black.
          As for where the black greeks went, between the balto-slavic expansion and the germanic about 10 or so invasions between 2 ad and 8 ad that is basically enough to wipe out most the features we’d associate with blacks. Although ancient black greek cmmunities can still be found in places like xanthi near patramio.
          So yes datbro was right when he implied the ancient greeks were black and not white because that is what the evidence shows.

  85. Nowadays, white girls don’t have the option to put white men in a frenzy so they can jealously kill black men who’ve rejected them. Besides gaming the legal system with false accusations, like in the Winston James case, white women are going the baby mama route with alphas.
    As the author previously reported, Brynn Cameron got knocked up on purpose by Blake Griffin. After sucking her her previous (Matt Leinart) victim dry of green blood, not only is Griffin no forced to raise his spawn, but he will be raising Leinart’s as well.

    Don’t Hate On A Skilled Hustler

  86. Yes, I am a white man and I agree white girls are evil, and white men are even worse. Which is why I say that the cure to all this is that we all completely separate from one another. Blacks with blacks and whites with whites. That way no evil white women will be making any false accusations against innocent black men. Who as we all know are incapable of raping anybody, anywhere at any time, especially white women. In fact we all know that black people in general are the most developed, civilized and down right superior race of people within all of mankind. You guys prove it to the world every day, believe me, you do!
    Which leads me to believe that blacks, true to their word of being oppressed by evil whiteness. Would surly take any opportunity to escape all the wickedness of white people, right? However, we don’t see that do we? We see blacks in America flooding white neighborhoods so they can be as close to their oppressors as possible. I got to say, that’s very strange behavior for people who are supposedly being oppressed and victimized. I say separate and you can finally blossom into the Black Kings and Queens that you know you are. All with the bonus of showing whitey once and for all the true magnificence of the African people, or something.

    1. Its not like if black people move away from whites like they won’t have to pay taxes to the white government. Use some logic here. Just look at black wall street, that was in the era of segregation.

      1. 1) If african americans were to move out of the country, then they wouldn’t have to pay taxes to the “white government” you speak of. No one is forced to live in the USA.
        (Don’t even try explaining how some are born into poverty, and can’t get the education to make enough money to leave the country. Tell me, whose fault is it when children are born into poverty? Un-intelligent individuals who shouldn’t be having children they can’t afford, and should be disabled from having children they cannot afford. I feel awful for children who are born into poverty, THE SIMPLE SOLUTION: DON’T HAVE KIDS YOU CAN’T FUCKING AFFORD)
        2) Who pays more in taxes, the average caucasian of the african american?
        3) Who receives more benefits from the “white government”, the average caucasian or the average african american? (I’ll give you a Hint: food stamps, unemployment benefits, …)
        4) What race contributes more to crime? (Hint: Look up proportion of races in prison)
        5) Who pays to feed the inmates, to provide judges and free legal representation to criminals, and the other entities involved to sustain “justice”?
        I’ll answer the last one for you; the “white government”.

        1. 1. Look at what the previous writer said. He implies blacks should stay away from whites or segregate from whites. Have you ever tried immigrating legally, not the easiest thing.
          2. The aveage african american has paid more taxes historically and has gotten less back on their tax money. During most of the segregationist era african americans were the most taxed group and received none of the money back in services from the white dominated government who used that money to build itself up. This is why places that had large black populations like Mississippi or Texas and New York became wealthy at the time and places that are and were mostly white were actually poor. You don’t see people moving to vermont or maine in droves for jobs and those are amongst the most white states.
          3. the white wealth elite receive most the benefits from the white government, they are robbing us all blind. What sense does it make to complain about some welfare idiot who is toothless and jobless in kentucky or “the hood” when the real welfare kigns and queens are the people running the fortune 500 countries and getting mega bailouts and millions to build a hockey arena or a race track?
          4. The race that contributes most to crime would have to be the race of the majority in the government as they are the ones responsible for all the criminals running around because they failed to build a reasonable country where people don’t have to steal to eat or don’t have to steal to pay for medical procedures.
          5. Yes as if that was some grand noble thing when the government makes up lies on people to send them to jail and the public attorney tells you to admit to crimes you ddin’t do. Given every week a new person is getting free on dna evidence the legal system is nothing to be impressed about.

  87. The thing that jumps out the most from reading these comments is the pro-black and the pro-white racist bent of several comments…that, and the incipient homosexuality of whoever keeps posting these images of black dicks.

    1. LOL, you mean you want them to go back to the place we kidnapped them from? They go back to Africa it’ll probably be full of white people like south africa… LOL

    1. I say that because the racist comments by angry White men on this post is truly sad and disappointing.

    2. White males or trolls. I’m white and I don’t care what any race any man chooses to date. Couldn’t give a damn if every white woman in America decided she wanted to date outside her race today. I’ve still got plenty off good looking options. At the end of the day marriage and LTR are a trap in modern society.

  92. If black men didn’t have the big dick myth they wouldn’t have anything to be proud of. That’s why they are constantly waving “muh dik” around and talking about fucking “white bishes”. They are trying to cover up their insecurity because the black man is least intelligent race (literally bottom of the intellectual totem pole) and has accomplished nothing even though they come from the most resource rich continent on Earth.

      1. C’mon man. You know you want it just like white women do so stop playin’. Ain’t nobody gunna fault you either.
        [img]http://www.cloland.com/pictures/gayinterracialxxxvideo4.jpg[/img]
        You lying if you say that don’t want the same thing.

  93. I can’t blame a nigger for wanting a white human girl, anything would be better than laying with a black sow nigger; even a farm animal. Any white girl that lays with a nigger is a soulless whore. The good thing is she will soon be dead either from aids or multiple beatings by her pet ape.

  94. I consider coalburners the same as niggers no big deal they like to sleep with animals let them. Funny how niggers want to be equal LOL detroit has the lowest test scores in the whole country (I wonder why) please please do explain why

        1. At least spell family right homie. LOL. I actually have a stable job thank you. You probably live in a trailer park living off welfare and blame everything on the “colored” people like most of ya’ll racists do.

    2. It’s hard to take racists like you seriously because the majority of you have low IQ’s and look like these guys.

  95. 1. Isn’t this just evidence of beta white males in lynch mob overreacting scared blacks are coming to get them? The white woman didn’t even press charges when if she as really out to screw the kid over she would have?
    2. Again this seems to be blaming white women for the action of lynch mob which were primarily white men
    3. Again, I see an overreaction from white men to defend the “sexual honor” of white women… classical beta behaviour.
    1. Darrel Williams. Well thats plain unfortunate and does support the author’s point. 2. Dixon, Again I see overreaction from the white man (the father who you called a racialist) not the white woman here. How her dad found out is beyond me, but black people…. no all men…. need to get the hell away from those states that imprison 18 y/o men for sleeping with women 3 years younger than them.

  96. if i am black guy,, i don’t think i’ll be looking for insperation around all these nazis here,.roosh is bleaching his skin to to be accepted by these impecils or the joke is on us..

    1. Do niggers ever think of anything else?
      If they didn’t maybe there wouldn’t be so many bastard niglets out there.

      1. I guess its too much to ask to cut out the racism as well.
        Black men face many of the same issues as other men do. Yet, instead of feeling any sense of commonality with them, many of you here would rather retreat to a racist mentality.
        Way to go! Good job!

        1. Well, I’m mostly a live and let live person, but I’m tired of the blame game being played. This article is just another symptom of it. Does that mean that I think “white wimmiz” are all wonderful and pure? Of course not, but white women has nothing to do with Jerome knocking up Keisha and then not sticking around to take care of the offspring.
          As a libertarian, I’m tired of people not taking responsibility for the damage they’re doing to society. This article is a terrible race baiting article.
          Anyway, I have a life and it’s about time for me to move on to something else. This “discussion” (what little there has actually been of it) is stale to me now.

        2. I agree with what you say here. However, your racism (and use of the word “nigger” does not give libertarianism a good impression.

        3. There are more issues. More personal.
          I live in a neighborhood where mostly older people live, but the last few years blacks have moved in and the neighborhood is going to the dogs.
          The ones across the street will pull in at 2 am blasting music. I’m not the kind of person that gives a shit during the day, but 2 am? Blacks moved in next door and then the next thing I know many camper has been fiddled with, and stuff on the porch is getting moved. None of these happened before they moved in.
          On top of that, about 6 months ago a black male comes down through the neighborhood claiming that he is trying sell security systems, but when I inform him that I’m well armed and ready to take care of myself he turns around and leaves the neighborhood. Strange behavior.
          Plus the ice cream man (Think big worm from Friday) tends to stop at these houses. I suspect that drugs are an issue. So, this once quiet neighborhood is slowly turning into a ghetto from the looks of it.
          Stuff like that does not help.

  98. The glaring and most obvious question is…why don’t black men like their female counterpart?

  99. Lets face it, almost all the worlds problems can be ended or were started by some woman messing with shit out of her understanding.

  100. Awesome. Who let 4chan in here. Go back to youe clubhouse this place is for self improving men not bitter autists with enormous existential voids

  102. Yes I have been to Greece several times and seen the “statues and carvings and most of the originals are indeed black looking.
    Most of the so called whites ones are just modern plaster fakes created in places like the Cambridge plaster museums or other 900 plaster museums.
    White?
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5b/Rhyton_African_Cdm_Paris_1238.jpg
    Ancient Greek Vase
    Ancient Greek war, 2 black men.
    http://www.as-jif.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/greeS.jpg
    Ancient Greece Bust
    http://img.scoop.it/O25eYKcYUG2HvpFiC0X2Jjl72eJkfbmt4t8yenImKBVvK0kTmF0xjctABnaLJIm9
    Greek youth
    http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Images_Minoan/Black_youth_2.jpg
    Odysseus and circe
    http://www.utexas.edu/courses/introtogreece/lect6/bOdyCircParod0010030500.jpg
    It is generally accepted among even the eurocentric historians that Odysseus was black.
    Black Odysseus, White Caesar: When Did “White People” Become “White”?
    James H. Dee
    The Classical Journal
    Vol. 99, No. 2 (Dec., 2003 – Jan., 2004), pp. 157-167
    Published by: The Classical Association of the Middle West and South
    “Reasons behind the conclusion that Roman general Julius Caesar is a white person and Odysseus is a black person; Significance of Romance philology to the classical origin of colors; Background on the involvement of Europeans in African slave-trading.
    http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/Arts/Polyphemos/Polyphemos1.jpg
    Odysseus certainly does look black and is considered to be black.
    The reality is the most famous greek stories, homer and the odyssey and troy are about black people. The first about Odysseus the later Memnon.
    Aegean Islanders in the Tomb of Rekhmire 1400 bce Original from Egypt, Upper Egypt; Thebes, Sheikh Abd el-Qurna, Tomb of Rekhmire (TT 100), MMA graphic expedition, 1926
    http://images.metmuseum.org/CRDImages/eg/web-large/33.8.1_EGDP012991.jpg
    But then again, you probably don’t even know what Aegean means.
    Minoan
    http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Images_Minoan/Minoan_fresco.jpg
    http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Images_Minoan/Akrotiri_Frescoe_3.jpg
    sokrates
    http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Whites/sokrates.jpg
    Greek Royal
    http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Images_Minoan/Vase.jpg
    http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Images_Minoan/Group_2.jpg
    This is what the actual frescoes look like, they are clearly black people. Most modern Greeks are white skinned peoples except the stupid ones spraying on tan, most of the images of ancient greeks are darker than the typical african american.
    http://media.lonelyplanet.com/lpi/198/198-28/681×454.jpg
    Probably you seen images like this
    http://www.corbisimages.com/images/DE005854.jpg?size=67&uid=56a0e7ba-f875-4e1d-bf3a-1f6b193344e1&uniqID=b611b4d9-de0b-4b66-9395-e48063c9593b
    And assumed the ancient Greeks were white based on that and media portrayals. There is no need for insults or racism.
    When you understand modern Greeks are often very whitejust as white as the rest of europe from a physical standpoint, it becomes even more ridiclous to think these black images are “dark white” peoples
    here is a greek female athlete who trains outdoors and spends lots of time outdoors, one would expect her to be darker than the average greek
    http://www.brobible.com/files/uploads/made/files/uploads/images/sports/olympics/racist-greek-olympian_640_545_s_c1_c_t_0_0.jpeg
    Here are greek farmers
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a3/Group_of_workers_harvesting_tea_Chakva_Prokudin-Gorsky.jpg/685px-Group_of_workers_harvesting_tea_Chakva_Prokudin-Gorsky.jpg
    Any how dna seems to support the fact that the ancient greeks were black.
    Phylogeographic analysis of haplogroup E3b (E-M215) y chromosomes reveals multiple migratory events within and out of Africa.
    Cruciani F, La Fratta R, Santolamazza P, Sellitto D, Pascone R, Moral P, Watson E, Guida V, Colomb EB, Zaharova B, Lavinha J, Vona G, Aman R, Cali F, Akar N, Richards M, Torroni A, Novelletto A, Scozzari R.
    Source
    Dipartimento di Genetica e Biologia Molecolare, Universita “La Sapienza,” 00185 Rome, Italy.
    “Although E-M78β and E-M78γ show only modest levels of gene flow (from northern Africa to Europe and from eastern to northern Africa, respectively), the clinal frequency distribution of E-M78α within Europe testifies to important dispersal(s), most likely Neolithic or post-Neolithic. These took place from the Balkans, where the highest frequencies are observed, in all directions, as far as Iberia to the west and, most likely, also to Turkey to the southeast. Thus, it appears that, in Europe, the overall frequency pattern of the haplogroup E-M78, the most frequent E3b haplogroup in this region, is mostly contributed by a new molecular type that distinguishes it from the aboriginal E3b chromosomes from the Near East. These data are hard to reconcile with the hypothesis of a uniform spread of a single Near Eastern gene pool into southeastern Europe. On the other hand, they might be consistent with either a small-scale leapfrog migration from Anatolia into southeastern Europe at the beginning of the Neolithic or with an expansion of indigenous people in southeastern Europe in response to the arrival of the Neolithic cultural package. At the present level of phylogenetic resolution, it is difficult to distinguish between these possibilities.”
    e-m78 occurs highest in the borana from kenya at 78%. The peer reviewed document makes it clear that e-m78 went from northern africa into europe and from eastern africa into northern africa. In otherwords, people from east africa moved north to north africa and then into europe (the only way you can pretty much most obvious way to get to europe from east africa by land. The neolithic or post neolithic makes is clear that around the neolithic and post neolithic age or bronze age ie. when ancient greece was just starting black africans from east africa arriving into greece. This shuts down the no blacks in ancient greece but slaves. These people were clearly the founders who had been arriving from the neolithic and post neolithic era and spread all over europe and turkey.
    “E3b—that is, it had (1) the highest number of different E3b clades (table 1), (2) a high frequency of this haplogroup and a high microsatellite diversity, and, finally, (3) the exclusive presence of the undifferentiated E3b* paragroup.
    Our data show that haplogroup E3b appears as a collection of subclades with very different evolutionary histories. Haplogroup E-M78 was observed over a wide area, including eastern (21.5%) and northern (18.5%) Africa, the Near East (5.8%), and Europe (7.2%), where it represents by far the most common E3b subhaplogroup. The high frequency of this clade (table 1) and its high microsatellite diversity suggest that it originated in eastern Africa, 23.2 ky ago (95% CI 21.1–25.4 ky)”
    Translation e1b1b or e3b (same thing different names) originates in east africa
    “The relatively high frequency of DYS413 24/23 haplogroup E chromosomes in Greece (A.N., unpublished data) suggests that cluster α of the E-M78 haplogroup is common in the Aegean area, too.”
    Greeks particularly in the Aegean have dna originating in africa. They were never involved in the african slave trade, the greeks themselves were enslaved by turks during colonialism.
    “The cluster E-M78γ was found in eastern Africa at an average frequency of 17.7%, with the highest frequencies in the three Cushitic-speaking groups: the Borana from Kenya (71.4%), the Oromo from Ethiopia (32.0%), and the Somali (52.2%).”
    Probably why they excluded these groups and did not look at y-dna when testing the dna of the minoans.
    “In conclusion, we detected the signatures of several distinct processes of migration and/or recurrent gene flow associated with the dispersal of haplogroup E3b lineages.Early events involved the dispersal of E-M78δ chromosomes from eastern Africa into and out of Africa, as well as the introduction of the E-M34 subclade into Africa from the Near East. Later events involved short-range migrations within Africa (E-M78γ and E-V6) and from northern Africa into Europe (E-M81 and E-M78β), as well as an important range expansion from the Balkans to western and southern-central Europe (E-M78α). This latter expansion was the main contributor to the present distribution of E3b chromosomes in Europe.”
    In otherwords, European E is of african origin (like all E) and represent black african migration into europe going back to the neolithic period and post neolithic period.
    “The two E-M78 chromosomes found in Pakistan, at the eastern borders of the area of dispersal of haplogroup E3b, also belong to cluster δ. On the basis of these data, we suggest that cluster δ was involved in a first dispersal or dispersals of E-M78 chromosomes from eastern Africa into northern Africa and the Near East. Time-of-divergence estimates for E-M78δ chromosomes suggest a relatively great antiquity (14.7±2.7 ky) for the separation of eastern Africans from the other populations. A later range expansion from the Near East or, possibly, from northern Africa would have introduced E-M78 cluster δ into Europe. However, given the low frequencies of E-M78δ, it seems to have contributed only marginally to the shaping of the present E-M78 frequency distribution in Africa and western Eurasia. Indeed, later (and previously undetected) demographic population expansions involving clusters α in Europe (TMRCA 7.8 ky; 95% CI 6.3–9.2 ky), β in northwestern Africa (5.2 ky; 95% CI 3.2–7.5 ky), and γ in eastern Africa (9.6 ky; 95% CI 7.2–12.9 ky) should be considered the main contributors to the relatively high frequency of haplogroup E-M78 in the surveyed area.”
    the results when it proved blacks were in Europe 6300 – 9200 years ago or 4300-7200 bc, black east africans from kenya with the e-m78 haplogroup showed up in europe so they through away the results and claimed it was undetected.
    “E3b1-M78 is the most common haplogroup E lineage in Europe (Cruciani et al. 2004; Semino et al. 2004). The spatial pattern shown in figure 4(C) depicts a nonuniform E3b1 geographic distribution with a frequency peak centered in south Europe and SEE (13%–16% in southern Italians and 17%–27% in the Balkans). Declining frequencies are evident toward western (10% in northern and central Italians), central, and eastern Europe (from 4% to 10% in Polish, Russians, mainland Croatians, Ukrainians, Hungarians, Herzegovinians, and Bosnians). Noteworthy is a low E3b1 frequency (5%) in Turkey. Apart from its presence in Europe and the Middle East, E3b1 is also found in eastern and northern Africa. Cruciani et al. (2004) estimated that E3b-M78 might have originated in eastern Africa about 23.2 KYA (95% confidence interval [CI] 21.1–25.4).”
    High-Resolution Phylogenetic Analysis of Southeastern Europe Traces Major Episodes of Paternal Gene Flow Among Slavic Populations
    Marijana Peričić*, 1 , Lovorka Barać Lauc*, 1 , Irena Martinović Klarić*, Siiri Rootsi†, Branka Janićijević*, Igor Rudan‡§, Rifet Terzić∥, Ivanka Čolak¶, Ante Kvesić¶, Dan Popović*, Ana Šijački#, Ibrahim Behluli**, Dobrivoje Đorđevi憆, Ljudmila Efremovska††, Đorđe D. Bajec#, Branislav D. Stefanović#, Richard Villems† and Pavao Rudan*
    So, do the eurocentricks want to explain why they have a haplogroup originating in Africa 23,000 years ago at 27% in places where black people supposedly never were?
    Black dna, black art, black literature, black niger-congo language. All the evidence proves they indeed were black.
    As for where the black greeks went, between the balto-slavic expansion and the germanic about 10 or so invasions between 2 ad and 8 ad that is basically enough to wipe out most the features we’d associate with blacks. Although ancient black greek cmmunities can still be found in places like xanthi near patramio.
    So yes datbro was right when he implied the ancient greeks were black and not white because that is what the evidence shows.

    1. Lol at pulling all your information from afrocentric sites that state that ancient chinese, vietnamese, indian, persian, british, eastern european, israel, egyptian, north american, south american, italian and hawaiian cultures were all black.
      You black people will believe anything that makes you feel good, truly a feminine race.

      1. 1. I am not black I am practically a ginger but blonde
        2. So you think peer reviewed studies from italy and slavic professors are now afrocentric?
        3. You think dna is afrocentric, the scholars who did the dna study consist of zero blacks.
        4. All of the images I posted exist in Museums, the museums cannot control who post the image where, I pull the image from where pops up first in search, I don’t know about you
        5. I look at facts and evidence, you operate of a series of normalcy prejudice- which basically means… “Greeks of today are white therefore anyone who ever inhabited that land must also have been white”. This may or may not be in the racial sense but you look at natives of today and conclude they are not black therefore the Natives could never have been black. As someone cultured in history, I approach it differently. I recognize populations patterns can change over time. Most people living in Arizona today are white, should I assume that this has always been the case? Should we conclude Geronimo was a white man?
        6. I never assume any population was X. I ask what where they and look at the evidence. If an author concludes the ancient native indians were black it is actually not inaccurate for several reasons:
        Harvard Professor and former head of depart and VP of American anthropology Roland B Dixon concluded the ancient native americans were black as early as the early 1900s. Cavalli Sforza the top (eurocentrist) geneticist of the 21st century, concludes the same thing based on dna.
        “Some Africans colonized Asia, and then Australia (55,000 years ago) and North America (maybe 30,000 years ago).”
        http://www.nytimes.com/books/00/08/20/reviews/000820.20ridleyt.html
        Hence it doesn’t seem all that far feteched that Asian and american civilzations were black because well that is what the genetic studies show from our own people.
        The real question is why does it make you so angry, none of this racial stuff even matters. Your ancestors could be all the greatest people in history or nobodies, it makes no difference, you will only be judged on you… especially if you are white and in America like me. You do know that race doesn’t exist, your getting angry and bent out of shape over something that does not even exist in an objective manner.
        Racial categories are all arbitrary. Genetics demonstrates there is greater distance between people of the same race than outside it. Ie. R1b is the most common male haplogroup in West Europe, it occurs highest in the world in a tribe in burkina faso and is also widespread in central/west africa. Genetically a white Brit is closer to a black from those regions than they are to other germanic whites from say Sweden or Norway who are mostly I. It is entirely arbitrary and varies by country. You should know this.

        1. You are definitely black, I’ve seen you afrocentrists pop up all over the net with your ridiculous cut and paste nonsense with no real references.
          Go back to screaming at White people on the street with the other Black Israelites about how they were living in caves while Black people were flying and building pyramids with their minds.

  104. Cases like the Brian Banks trail and most cases involving baby mamas have shown time after time that its not white women that are to blame but women in general and the system that supports them in taking down men. The system rapes the male gender and gives women unearned and undeserved privileges

  105. If racism didn’t pay so well, black people might avoid it … holding your hand out in Africa leaves you starving with the rest of them.

  106. White women are the apex of human civilization. They age poorly, but other than that, the world has a lot to be grateful to them for.

    1. White women are the lowest class of women on earth. There is no women WORSE than white women.
      The real Master-race is white men and East Aryan Asian women, or Aryan brahmin indian women (if you can find one).
      You white women have betrayed white men and white civilization in general with your feminism. Do you think we white men will ever forget how you white women betrayed our civilization and destroyed it?
      I hope you have fun living in the multicultural hellhole you white liberal whores have created in the West. And when you get raped by niggers and spicks and Arabs? I will laugh at you and then spit on you, you fucking race traitor whore.
      White women are the SCUM of the earth. Let the niggers have them. We civilized white men certainly do not want them anymore.

      1. “The real Master-race is white men and East Aryan Asian women, or Aryan brahmin indian women (if you can find one).”
        Oh god. Another clueless gora misappropriating my culture and speaking cuturally-ignorant clusterfuckese.
        Brahmin women don’t want you anywhere near them. Go back to McDonald’s you fool.

      2. “The real Master-race is white men and East Aryan Asian women, or Aryan brahmin indian women (if you can find one).”
        Brahmins don’t want anything to do with goras like you. You are untouchable to us. Go back to McDonald’s you fool.

      3. “The real Master-race is white men and East Aryan Asian women, or Aryan brahmin indian women (if you can find one).”
        Stay away from my country and my people, firangi.

      5. I am half-East Indian of noble extract. I can tell you North Indian, Persian and Arab women are the best this planet have to offer. If you want to procreate with the only decent Aryans left on this planet go to Iran (Iran actually means land of the Aryans). Persian women are the best. However, the Jews have Iran marked for destruction sooner or later. After that, there won’t be a single country left where there are decent women of Aryan extract with symmetrical beauty left. White women or any woman that is westernized/Americanized are scum despite their origins. You would have to travel. With that said, we are living in dark times. I feel for Iran and the decent Middle Eastern/Asiatic countries left that will endure the painful inculcation of Judaic Westernization. The Aryan was dethroned a long time ago, with the aid of fellow Aryans.

  107. White women are the scum of the earth, the worst women on earth.
    Let the niggers have them, for all I care. We civilized white men certainly do not want white women anymore.

    1. rofl OK so you go elsewhere. I’m a mixed-race female with a white guy.
      Guess what? I’m egalitarian and childfree, too. I may not cheat and I may be very loving and affectionate but I won’t put up with bullshit (cheating, refusal to contribute/laziness, expecting me to be barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen) either.
      This is the way of the world now. Fucking get over it.

  109. When I visit MGOTW/MRA channels/forums it does not take long for me to discover there is a majority conservative stronghold criticizing issues in black culture that they
    1) strongly generalize (poor black male work ethic, the false knockout game drama)
    2) should not be commenting on at all (N-word debate within the black community, light skin vs dark skin, black history, cornball/oreo brothers vs thugs/gangsters) but they will because it suits their prejudiced beliefs.
    And those are not just the actions of the bitter middle-aged white men who are going bald and getting fucked in the ass through divorce court, they passed this hatred down to their sons. Any visit to the Bodybuilding misc forums or Reddit will confirm this. Nothing but a bunch or weak ass twenty-somethings blaming blacks the same age as them because this country is fucked and they’re going to have to work ALOT harder then their parents to succeed.
    News flash dumbasses, our race is going to have to work even HARDER in this new economy to succeed. Food Stamps/welfare/social security have always been reserved for women and WEAK men, and in this new economy you do not want to be at the bottom of the food chain because even government assistance will not save you.
    Like the Republican party, MRA/MGOTW will continue to go nowhere until the conservative majority swallows the black pill and accepts that we are not Enemy #1. You want women to get off their pedestal but think its okay for white males to stay on theirs, and that’s not going to work.

  111. About the Winston case he won’t be fully exonerated in the public eye. There will be many questions left for people who have not followed this case closely. What actually
    happened on the night in question? Why did an investigation into an
    alleged rape occurring in December 2012 take nearly a year to produce a
    decision to charge or not charge? What role did Florida State have in
    protecting one of its players, or supporting the fellow student accusing
    him of rape? How and why did this entire saga become public?

  113. Black male/white female relationships are teh most dangerous type for woman in terms of domestic violence. So its absolutely a positive thing that society stigmatize these sort of relationships.

  115. Its the perfect storm of bad deals: White women are the most notoriously over-privileged people ever to walk the earth and black men are the most criminally-inclined people ever to walk upright. …and lucky me, as a straight white male, I get to listen to nothing but non-stop bitching and pick up the check at the end of the party.

  116. a very jewish article. but blacks have for millennia been the slave of the jew, so well done Athlone ol boy, such a good shabbas goy.

  117. lol lol lol
    Stupid MRA’s want to divide themselves. Too easy for the feminists to conquer.
    Love it!

  121. I would like to add to this yes this is true about white women she will take a black man down every time but you don’t hear black men blaiming her the way blackmen are BLAMING BLACK WOMEN FOR EVERY THING FROM A-Z AND FROM MY POINT OF VIEW BLACK MEN ARE SLAVES TO WHITE WOMEN! AS YOU COULD CLEARLY SEE IN THIS VIDEO! http://youtu.be/LAqUSkn71lk

  122. This article came at the right moment.
    White women are the scum of the earth. See how they betray their own men(white), manipulate and manginate their own men, and use them.
    I think the present suffering of white men is proof enough of the shit , that white women are. White women are not only the greatest threat to black men, they are first a greater threat to their own men. White women are responsible for the rise of feminism, and have indirectly contributed to the depraved mentality and behavior of most black women.
    Whether they might from be the Anglosphere, EE, or anywhere else, white women are the most corrupt form of the human female species.
    The future will see more and more white men marrying Latinas, Asians or even blacks.
    White women will be reduced to being walking STD cum dumpsters.

  123. White women are not all the same just as black men are not all the same.for example white women are seen as gold diggers who take a way from black society what is good & honorable “a hard working balck man” and and black men are seen as gang bangin liars who only take from the white man what is theirs use it and then dispose of it like it was nothing but I know different. there is good and bad in every race and every person male female boy and girl the only one who is completely innocent is a baby. when you look at a person you arefirst remind yourself of their human not an angel or saint ment to be perfect. Then measure there good and bad to determine what kind of person hey really are. people are like books we have to study them to know who they really are we can’t just stereo type and jump to conclusions. I honestly don’t care what color of man is. I would still feel the same way I feel about himall what matters to me is that he loves me and he cherishes me. We both place value in each other.

  124. If there is one thing the majority of the White world is scared of it is Black Men. As a general rule, Black Men have more rapid muscle growth, greater muscle mass, greater physical size (taller and wider) deeper voices (a huge turn on for women), lower fat percentage (if they’re athletes) An inherent Atheletic ability and Musical ability (is their a Black Man that can’t play the Bass guitar? and as an antidotal story, I’ve only met one Black Man who can’t hold a tune (to be fair he’s mixed race)). Black Men are also better dancers.
    And then there is the one thing that women whisper about…and that’s Penis size. It’s not just length but girth as well.
    Many years ago I worked with an Irish women who had a life long friend that was married to a Jamaican Man. As a Husband/provider he was hopeless his pot habit meant he couldn’t keep a job and they fought constantly. She was a professional and made more money than him. But he was hung like a horse, she supposedly spent 3 years trying to leave him, but every attempt resulted in a fight, which later resulted in mult-orgasmic (for her) make up sex. Eventually she went to work and never came back because the power of his cock was too great to resist.
    If this sounds fanciful, search for “church of black cock”, blacks on blondes, Blacked.com. There is a plethora of white women who have discovered the multi-orgasmic satisfaction that comes from having sex with Black Men.
    The prevalence of IR porn & Photo blogs on Tumblr of Black Men & White Girls. White Women/Girls openly cuckholding their white husbands and boyfriends, having breeding parties with their white girlfriends. Some of whom are still married to their white husbands. As well as the “Queen of Spades” Tattoo, openingly displaying their preference for Black Men.
    If there is one thing I am certain of in this world it is Phallic worship and Penis envy (are you listening Feminists).
    If the world (of non black women) were to submit to the unrestricted Power of the Black Penis(women would be unable to control their urges), it would turn the traditional power structures on their head, and this is ultimately what White Men(KKK and other racists in general) are afraid of. Not to mention shrill man hating Feminists, such as the one who started the anti Julian Blanc hashtag, at 2am on Saturday night with Her Cat in the background.
    Remember the quote of Kirstie Brown (I’m paraphrasing) “my daddy can’t find out we had sex”, (my response would been I’m you’re Daddie now…but I digress).
    The overwhelming fear is that if there is unrestricted Black Phallic worship, with all the other genetic advantages that the Black Phallis brings. There will be no need for sex with White Men. Black women will be left out, because there is greater choices (redheads blondes et cetera) The offspring will be genetically superior, owing to size strength and disease resistance, and finally guaranteed leg shaking sexual satisfaction at every encounter, due to penile size. As well as open bitchy competition for the men who can provide this kind of satisfaction.
    This is the real reason why Black men are kept away from white women.

    2. IQ just happens to be missing from your statement. That is why white men are SCARED! NAACP has rigged the system not in the white mans favour and thus we see the results today. 🙂

    3. What would happen if the small dicked white man took away the precious NAACP(JEWISH) and replaced it with a fair playing field? Black enrollment into major universities is still far behind that of other minorities even with a huge bell curve.

  125. This bullshit belongs in the MSM. Leftist commie twaddle speak and bleeding heart egalitarianism at its finest. Shame on ROK!

  126. Remember the “other Cain”?
    The Republicans propped up this Pizza chain owner as a Black Republican alternative to Obama. But he had a lot of accusers prop up – Cosby without the “Alleged” rape, just groping, sexual harassment, etc. So they dropped him like a hot coal.
    “The Dark skinned man cannot control his lust for white women.” – right?
    Hey, I ain’t racist, look at white women these days, especially those who will let a black man go with them. IMO he can HAVE them, just don’t whine afterwards.

  127. This website like a lot of Afrocentrist websites always leaves me bemused and amused all at the same time. Black people have to figure out if it is the JEW or the EUROPEAN that is the problem. White does not mean Jewish just like Jewish does not mean white. 😉 MLK and Rosa Parks were great COMMUNISTS. Winnie Mandela endorsed ‘necklacing’. The black man can be proud to know that necklacing is truly an AFRICAN sport.

  129. >Race: Jewish
    going full autism on the evil white supremacists and then calling jewry a race?
    How much more ignorant can you get?

  130. The article writer fails to MENTION that:19,000 Whites females are raped yearly by Black males,while less than 10 Black females are raped yearly by White males,and this with Blacks being 12% of the population and Whites being 60%.SO the much smaller Black male population rapes huge numbers of White females and the Jewish media says nothing.We all know if it was reversed that it would be a headline everyday forever.So quit bitching about Black males being victimized and non-violent because most Whites know the truth.You are all violent,impulsive animals driven not by God or culture but only by your animal instincts to have sex in between the meals you steal.

  131. The stereotype of black males as rapists and sexual predators dates back to post-civil war era when the KKK used this fear to justify killings of blacks which served the actual purpose of intimidating and controlling black populations. This stereotype has been knotted together with a current campaign to shift the burden of proof-in the context of black men accused of rape- to the man to prove his innocence of charge of rape. The idea is that women must always be believed in these cases and it is wrong to even question them .. They tried and failed to do this shift with Jameis Wilson. But they have succeeded in doing this with Bill Cosby. They are also succeeding in doing this to Nate Parker. He was acquitted but still presumed guilty. The so called feminists who are applying these unjust standards to Jameis, and Cosby and Parker do not apply these standards to white men who are accused of similar things.

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