It is beyond fallacious to claim that radical feminism is a war waged solely on men—it is absolutely a war on women as well. As noted by many writers on this website, a great deal of feminists scream “choice” at the top of their lungs, and then immediately turn around and tear their dear sistas to shreds for not making the choices they approve of. This has been well documented: rants by shrill harpies such as Amy Glass are refreshing precisely because they’re honest. Rather than rolling her eyes and otherwise being coyly bitchy to women who want to be happy with their husbands, raising their kids and keeping a great and loving home, she’s outright calling them traitors to themselves and to the cause.
Choice? Bullshit.
However, even in the blue pill world, even in the female mind that’s been told — in direct opposition to the laws of conservation—that she can have everything while sacrificing nothing, certain truths are beginning to unfold. Specifically, that there are things women do not want, and that no amount of counterintuitive programming can force them to want.
Women don’t want to be equals in bed
It would be wearisome to provide endless links so try this exercise instead: google “What do women want in bed”, surveys and whatnot. You’ll encounter a number of top 10 lists. Every single one of them will include an entry about D/S fantasies, calling the man “Master” and catering to their whims. Most of them, such as this gem, will have straight-up rape fantasies as the number one thing that women gush a torrent over.
I have dated several self identified-feminists in my younger days, and funnily enough, when I look back, they were far more likely to be ultra-submissive in bed, wanting to be degraded and “put in their place”, than their non feminist peers. Sublimation, perhaps? Whatever; there’s a reason 50 Shades of Gray sold roughly infinity copies. Women want—and the modern woman wants desperately—to be submissive in bed. No feminist doctrine can make her wet or keep her dry in defiance of that.
Love letter to feminine submission comes out, repressed femininity across western world creams itself.
Women don’t want to be anything other than conventionally beautiful
A particularly butthurt entry on Jezebel cites a survey by Escentual.com. The idea was that men and women would identify their favorite features from different celebrities and morph that into a whole. The writer is “creeped out” by how both men and women came up with thin, extremely feminine, full lipped, long haired, perfect skinned ideals. She clearly sees it as a betrayal by women.
Now, we all know about the cancer of go girlism but the truth of the matter is, very few women can completely BS themselves at the subconscious level. Somewhere deep down they know that the myth of endlessly fluid beauty standards is bullshit. While there are hot curvy women (Christina Hendricks from Mad Men) and hot skinny women (January Jones, also from Mad Men), there are no hot wrinkly women, no hot fat women, no hot fugly women. And there never were, and never will be.
Tellingly, feminism has not made a dent in bullshit diet fads for women. Now, fad dieting is a ridiculous and worthless cop out, but the fact that there’s such a huge industry around it aimed mostly towards women clearly reveals their means that they aren’t buying the fools gold that feminists are selling: that you will be loved no matter what you look like. Every fat girl, even the caustic go-girls, especially the caustic go-girls, know this.
And so do all women, even the so-called supports of the (ironically named) “body-positive” movement. Watch these fat girls put up nauseating pictures of themselves, and an endless rush of their hotter, skinny friends will smother them in praises and “OMFG U SO HAWT GURLL.” Tell one of those girls to stop hitting the gym and eat a pound of cake a day, though, and note the just-swallowed-a-porcupine expression. They’ve been caught in a lie, and will stammer something about how they’re never really that hungry, or that this is their natural body type and its no better or worse than a whales natural body type.
Bullshit. They would slit their wrists before looking like their Hindenburg buddies, and everyone knows it.
Women Don’t Want To Work As Much As You Think They Do
This is the big one. The pay gap myth in the US has already been addressed on this website—women tend to earn less because over a lifetime, because they tend to do less work than men. Its equal pay for equal work, but that’s a hard pill to swallow for the “equal rights but zero responsibilities” harpies. So I’m not going to focus on that. Instead, let me link an article from the New York Times that was so delicious it made me lick my lips: a survey “discovered” something that everyone had always known but in the last few decades had conspired to forget: Women don’t enjoy working away from home.
They simply aren’t wired to receive the same competitive rush of succeeding. Coupled with various studies over the years that point out how much more biologically attuned mothers are to having children and how much they enjoy the act of child rearing, it made NYT readers lose their minds. The very top commenter coalesced into one inane comment what was surely going through an abundance of small minds: “Instead of concluding…that women weren’t built to lead, the author should have offered up a solution”.
What solution, toots? You wanted the authors of the survey to solve biology? To solve a million years of evolution? You CAN work, girl, you can work hard and do well, but you’ll never be as fulfilled as a man who does the same. He is moving in accordance with his natural role—and getting the biologically mandated positive feedback from his own brain for it—and you are rebelling against yours. I hope the rush of defiance is enough.
There are, furthermore, more and more women who are awakening to this and subtly disengaging from feminism, mouthing off the common slogans while quietly starting to cherish, instead, what comes naturally to them. More women are choosing to be housewives or just more “traditional” because feminism’s promised land has come, and is decidedly underwhelming for men and women alike.
So be of good cheer. While it may seem like an uphill struggle against a feminized society, understand that feminists are fighting a far more doomed battle: they are attempting to surmount the core natures of the very women they claim to be fighting for.
Slowly, as more red pill truth seeps out, those women will abandon the feminist ideal as a false idol that never made good on its extravagant—and impossible—promises.
Read More: How Feminists Shame Beautiful Women
No, you’re wrong. That’s what they want…until they’re 30.
you forgot to add ‘…with pussies so blown out no that man could possibly enjoy them.’
you forgot to add ‘…with blown out ovaries and herpetic retread pussies no man could possibly enjoy.’
HOW FUNNY YOU ARE. I’D LOVE TO WATCH YOU SQUIRM IN A COURTROOM AFTER BEING CONVICTED FOR HATE SPEECH. I WILL RELISH HEARING OF YOUR “LIFE” IN PRISON.
BE A “KING” AND REVEAL YOUR IDENTITY “GUSTAV”
It’s so funny how idiot feminists think that offensive speech is not protected by the First Amendment lol. Your going to jail for talking bad about feminism!! lmfao
No one is going to give you their name because you’re deranged psychopath who types in all caps. Eat a dick bitch.
Replying to trolls will get you banned, son.
this Big Dick Johnson is seeking validation from feminist pig.Its clear we should not respond to trolls.
You have to remember that feminists (just like all leftist-socialists) are hypocrites and think that the First Amendment ONLY applies to them: “I have a right to free speech, but you have a right to free speech ONLY as long as I agree with it!!”
Leftists have a long record of ALWAYS giving ‘lip service’ to ‘free speech’, but also demanding that those who disagree with them be censored, prosecuted, or imprisoned.
Both women and men grow old.20s and 30s.Only 2 decades of your life -the reality is you spend more time as an older person then a young adulter adult.
Society and Women are living a lie. Female mammals just abandon or kill their young if they are sick or the baby is sick. Cannot fight biology .Let women do that too .It is our natural instincts at work. Humans are different to animals who rely solely on instinct. Or is the author only prone to endorse selective biological instincts.
IS THAT RIGHT? KEEP TELLING YOURSELF THAT NONSENSE.
Hard to fight biology. That’s why so many of them are miserable.
Yeah, many women’s biology is saying “find a good relationship, have kids” but at the same time their fear of being thrown out of the female herd, governed by feminists over the last 40 years or so, makes them go against their desire for love and kids and to go for careers and avoid relationships and having kids.
I wrote a post about that here, where many women felt guilty for wanting a relationship and feeling like they’d be betraying the feminists who “fought so hard”:
http://www.justfourguys.com/feminists-and-raunch-queens-are-the-dominant-alpha-mares/
Feminists don’t support women’s choice. They only support women’s choice to choose what feminists want. Anything else is ostracized.
Feminists want women to only focus on career and not have both career and reln/kids because they know the longer they can get the women to put those off the more they’ll devote themselves to career which brings in more power for feminists and it also has the added feature of keeping the women single longer which makes them less likely to marry and have kids so then they will be more involved in working and accruing power for feminist-minded women.
Regarding feminism as a hostile alien force corrupting legions of righteous, innocent maidens is mistaken.
Women want alpha genes in as much variety and frequency as possible, first and foremost. Security is secondary.
Despite their “good men” grumbling, women will almost always support political initiatives that appear to increase access to alpha, even at high personal cost and no matter how ill-conceived.
Team woman plays for team woman. With little foresight or alacrity, maybe, but this phenomenon is universal. This is not an abberation, it is why traditional societies carefully placed restraints on women’s sexual agency.
I am am feminist and all my friends are feminists and I can say that this is wholly untrue.
This is untrue. I have feminist friends with children, and I myself am a feminist and do not believe in “career” at all. None of my feminist friends (which are all my friends) believe in “career”. It is a manufactured desire created by modern society not meant for everyone. Some people love going to school and getting a degree to do the jobs they love. We believe you should do whatever makes you happy whether it is accepted by society or not.
Being a feminist does not mean you are “team woman.”
Being a feminist means “team equality.”
“”Despite their “good men” grumbling, women will almost always support
political initiatives that appear to increase access to alpha””
They’re doing it wrong. Leftism always creates an abundance of victim ideology spouting manginas by default. They’d be swimming in alpha cock if they had just STFU.
meh, I still consider feminists the corrupters, even if the corrupted are eagerly taking the candy held out by strangers.
The legion of angry lesbians must be victorious and their campaign to stamp out and castrate men!
I need a harpoon gun.
Fertility deferred is fertility denied.
As it should be.
Maybe “increase access to alpha” isn’t as precise as “insulating against the negative consequences of choosing alpha instead of choosing beta’s resources”
Feminism equals female superiority
THEY ARE NOT GOVERNED BY FEMINISTS. THEY ARE GRATEFUL FOR THE GAINS SINCE SUFFRAGE.
I am a feminist, I am married. My husband and I have the same ideologies, morals, values. The reason both men and women get aroused is because the mind and body wants to procreate. Modern society has shaped it into something sexual, removing the connection of these hormones to wanting children. None of my other female friends are married and I have many if not more male friends (who are not married, either). If someone does not want to get married I tell them it is their choice, being married changes nothing.
It is not the “fear of being thrown out of the female herd” that makes them disconnected from family it is, again, modern society that has manipulated our minds into thinking we need more more more (money) to survive. It is not all of us that think this way, though. I am happy with the amount I have, the free time I have to do the things I love. Feminist believe in choice. And this is not my definition of choice, it is exactly what the other woman wants to do. If she wants to get an abortion, that’s alright with me, if she doesn’t then that’s alright with me, too. If she wants to strip, strip! If she wants to wear a burqa, please, wear a burqa!
Being a feminist does not mean you cannot be in a relationship. It is contradictory to feminist beliefs to withhold choice from a woman.
YOU SHOULD READ FREUD’S WRITINGS ABOUT “PROJECTION.” THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE DOING FYI.
While he’s reading Freud, maybe you should read Nietzsche: ‘Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And when you look into the abyss, the abyss also looks into you.’
Translation:
If we’re degenerates, who enjoy a degenerate blog you also frequent, then what does that make you?
Your temperament is indistinguishable from ours, the sardonic delivery of your comments are equally as repugnant and to be honest at times your obsession with a website you seem to hate (but secretly love) is down right creepy.
If you hate Return of Kings so much, WHY ARE ALL OF THE COMMENTS IN YOUR FEED ARE FROM RETURN OF KINGS? If you can’t stand this website, it’s values or the men here who value the aforementioned, WHY ARE ALL OF THE COMMENTS IN YOUR FEED ARE FROM RETURN OF KINGS? Why even validate us by acknowledging our existence? What are you even doing here???
From a bystander’s point of view, it would seem as though you’ve created a Disqus account, for the sole purpose of being a miserable cunt and contributing nothing but demagoguery and pseudo-intellectual drivel to these conversations.
Again, the irony of trolling a website you obviously hate (but secretly love), not only reinforces you being a cunt but also lends a considerable amount of credibility to what we discuss here on a regular basis.
We actually like being here. What’s your excuse? Is doing positive things, that you actually like, too overwhelming to you?
don’t reply to the trolls. it will get you banned
Wow I want to be just like u wen I grow up ur AWESOME AND SMART. Yay for mens intelligence.
> Every fat girl, even the caustic go-girls, especially the caustic go-girls, know this.
This is why fat-shaming doesn’t seem like a good idea to me. They don’t need to be told they’re ugly, they know they’re ugly. When a girl is fat and tries to convince you that she’s beautiful, it’s just a shit test. You don’t respond to shit tests directly. Instead you either ignore them entirely (best option) or agree and amplify. The entire ‘fat acceptance’ thing is just a huge shit test.
You stonewall fat girls.
I’m also amazed at how many fat women are single mothers. It’s as if they flowered briefly at 17-18, ballooned and are now on the prow with baby in tow.
I’m not so sure about your wilting flower theory. There are plenty men out there are so thirsty they are HAPPY to dump a load in shamoo. Then pay for the privilege. It’s fucked up.
Sadly. But everyone knows what they’re paying for.
and many skinny women are single mothers too. The united states has an obesity problem and it is not just women who are fat. and just because you are fat does not make you unhealthy or obese or ugly.
It kinda makes you wonder what level of desperation would make a guy bone a helplessly ugly, disgustingly fat slob.
I mean, apparently it happens, they get lots of welfare kids, but man, I’d rather fuck my hand.
That would just play into the hand of the leftie gun-control advocates (who also support feminism).
Remember Sodini? Feminists made martyrs out of the women he killed (and demonized all men for it), had more restrictive gun-control laws passed, and also got more feminist laws passed.
The worst thing that leftists and their politicians fear is an ARMED CITIZEN; they prefer to have UNARMED SUBJECTS.
harpoon guns are already illegal to use on humans and off the water.
L:ook at it from their POV: they HAVE to get that 18-year annuity — it beats having to work for a living, you know!
“When a girl is fat and tries to convince you that she’s beautiful, it’s just a shit test.”
I have never thought of it this way, but I think you’re right. The problem is, a lot of fat girls have hopelessly thirsty dudes telling them they’re beautiful, and even though they know those guys are hopelessly thirsty, they do actually start to believe them, at least to a degree.
seen it so many times….a beta douche being over friendly with his fat girl friend because he believes she needs it more… WRONG.
fat does not mean ugly. fat does not mean sick. fat does not mean unable. fat does not mean she doesnt have a personality.
> Women want—and the modern woman wants desperately—to be submissive in bed.
I’ve dated a few feminists and the problem is that they have this strange and bizarre idea that they can be submissive in bed but dominant in everything else. It doesn’t even occur to them that this is completely contradictory. That is, until they find themselves in a relationship where the guy allows himself to be bossed around, and then they find that they are repulsed by the idea of being submissive to him in bed.
Worked when they had a limited domain of bossing around the kids and deciding what color the curtains should be
Then maybe you should talk about it and find a common ground instead of keeping it to yourself, remaining upset about it. If it doesn’t work out, it doesn’t work out. Everyone is different, find that perfect person for you.
Friendly reminder to male readers.
Do not reply to females.
::::paging roosh::::: can you please ban this **maureen bernstein**
Look at it like this. We are seeing the greatest benefit of feminism: all the female entitlement has caused the once alluring mystique of women to evaporate and what you are seeing is the very true nature of women. It is very revealing and shouldn’t come as a big surprise.
I agree….we are only now living in the truth and the truth hurts because we have been lied to about everything….
But with the truth comes wisdom and understanding and relief that we are not the problem here….
Even though Truth can be ugly and can sometimes hurt, Truth is ALWAYS better than a pretty, pleasant lie.
Thank you. Would some please ban the chatty cathy feminist housewife, too?
Yeah that’s fair enough but where are the mods? That fuckin idiot Holly or whatever she’s called has been spamming rapid fire cathedral fem-think quicker than you can scroll through it.
She is really shitting up the thread. Hope the mods get here soon.
It’s Saturday… we’re living lives
Get some Aussies or Kiwis on the mod list. It’s Sunday over there.
Another good article, really , Lord Buddha bless you everyone for this, I dedicate this Mantra for all .
You can’t be serious? Really? Buddha? what are you stuck in the sixties?
Hey John Lennon is calling you, he wants you to help sing the chorus of Imagine.
Way Blue Pill – pass the acid man!!!
Just Japanese video junk, did you escape from Burning Man?
Come on Everybody now… lol
Lol , no matter what you Atheists say, I always will be proud and loyal to Lord Buddha ; ) (And by the way the video is Chinese, that tells me how much wisdom and culture you offer me : P )
Roosh, you should do an article about the offensiveness of the “Female Gaze.”
Women complain about the “male gaze,” but this is offensive only because it is unattractive men looking.
As an attractive man (I think, as I have been told), I find it very offensive that women will peek at me when they are alone / when they are with their boyfriends / when they are with their husbands.
I find it EXTREMELY offensive, as a god fearing male, that so many women are able to eyefuck men that are not their partners – revealing their hypergamous and otherwise completely immoral and hypocritical nature. I also find is offensive that they will place so much value in looks and not so much in character, as I, being democratic, humble and honest, believe that every man should be judged by his character instead of by his appearance.
Agreed. One time I went out in Denver dressed up in a more traditional “player” outfit….nice khakis, a french-cuff shift, blazer, hair made up, etc.
It was bad. Dress really does make a difference and I noticed a lot of girls checking me out while with their men. Not even glances, they’d follow me as I was moving down the street. That behavior alone means they’ve already told me who they are and sorry girl but I’m not interested.
Exactly how I felt two days ago. Had a meeting with a Senior Director at one of my companies offices. I had a sharp new haircut, new black CK suit, purple striped tie, black Allen Edmonds wingtips, Gold Rolex President, Burberry raincoat.
Navigated past many 7’s,8’s and 9’s with perfect posture and form, displaying the focus, drive, motivation and direction in my life — without so much as giving those shallow cunts a glance. Even them, their boyfriends, husbands – they cant help checking me out.
I almost feel sorry for those losers.
Inside, the feeling of knowing I am a free agent, single with no bullshit drama, no pussy-worshipping, boot-licking for me.
Thanks RoK. You have been part of the process. Its progressing nicely.
“Inside, the feeling of knowing I am a free agent, single with no bullshit drama, no pussy-worshipping, boot-licking for me.”
It’s a great existence. 🙂
When you can devote every cent of your income to only yourself and your dreams…the feeling is indescribable.
I have no desire or urgent need to “continue my lineage” as so many beta manginas here feel is so important. If my “lineage” ends with my life – so be it. Ill devote myself later in life to helping those far poorer and needier than me.
You speak like a feminist.
It’s SO beta passing on your genes! Just like all your beta ancestors, guest. What a bunch of clueless imbeciles!
Too bad your great-great-great grandpa didn’t have you around to show him the way of alpha celibacy. Then you wouldn’t have had to waste your time waiting to die like a beta, because you never would’ve existed – the most alpha state of all! Because as everyone knows, it’s impossible to act beta when you don’t exist.
Oh yeah? And why the fuck is that?
Because I dont give a fuck about having kids?
Have kids if you want bro. If that makes you feel like a manly man, then go for it. Show everyone what a badass you are.
Carry on your “lineage”. I aint stoppin’ ya.
“Helping those far poorer and needier”
“I have no desire or urgent need to “continue my lineage”
lulzlzoz..Shitlib spotted.
That’s right you mewling quim. Pay for my 3? spawn ( I fucked a few lower socioeconomic class chicks back in the day, mistakes were made ) and all our free stuff and then end your legacy. But stick around for now I’m glad you fuckin dimbulbs are picking up the tab LOL.
Thank goodness you (white?) libtards are breeding yourselves out of existence. All the normals with a semblance of social/cultural awareness can look back and laugh at what an embarrassing time in history having you fuckin muppets around was.
Yes. We consider feminists to be those women who are essentially rebelling against their biological imperative. You appear to be doing the same. On top of that, you call men who have kids beta. That actually sounds insane.
It sounds to me like you want to extend your children right to the grave. There is nothing manly or admirable about that.
Same thing has happened to me in my 50s! when I wear special sweaters from South America with a fedora hat yet not the middle aged women who are incredibly miserable and bossy; instead and it is embarrassing, women in their 20s!!!! So much attention but of course I behave mannerly not making any advancement even if they do. Double Standard. I am not upset with these young ladies but their Moms 40s to even 60s YES! They are something else to deal with so much so, I don’t need one in my life.
And you Bob are likely one of those androgynous men who handed Feminists their power on a silver platter therefore screwing the rest of normal males and females so don’t give us anymore of this Mommy Complex cuz it destructive!
With respect David, none of what you said follows from my comments. Nothing more for me to say really.
After reading more of the messages on up the page or prior to yours, which I didn’t totally indulge in yesterday {as I was overly tired actually exhausted along with a hard working PRIVATE SECTOR buddy of mine BOTH losing our shirts = financial, emotional, cognitive, children for the most part, yet can’t break the spirit and ALL due to Feminists Libs or whatever one wishes to call pure cruel narcissistic Evil personified Bob}, I now read that you are 1. a family man but 2. see that the one “guest” to me isn’t “behaving like a feminist” which is what I zeroed in on. He says he is not interested in having a child because he views feminist women Harshly! Well I 100% agree with U w.r.t. 1. coming from an incredible lineage of family is everything next to Godliness as one of the first family pioneer families in the 1700s of Upper Canada comprised of prominent political figures over 3 centuries with the last dying a few years ago and this is only on father’s side; however Bob (my Dad’s name too), w.r.t. 2. the “guest’s” harshness towards these so called ladies, based on hundreds of thousands of people from rich to poor I’ve met here & around the globe I’m convinced via ‘Empirical Evidence’ that the most destructive ultra-changing Socio-Economic force in recent decades of Western Culture also now spreading into Eastern Culture is “Feminism or Women’s Liberation”. Bob, I could soundly validate this statement by listing the profound Effects of self-everything suffixes annexed to Feminist Ideology which would be very time consuming so suffice to say, for males still married with their children please be careful targeting single men or fathers who are frustrated to the point of incredible fear of these and I say it > government catered to-spoiled rotten-given choices at every turn-egocentric-ME FIRST-picky check listed-arrogance beyond-materialistic consumer oriented i.e. TRAVEL > WITCHES. And that hyphenated string is the tip of the iceberg. The silver platter handed to them came from highly educated parliamentarians who likely haven’t done a hard days work (i.e. Pierre Trudeau only rowing a canoe). “Androgynous” meaning viewing their own mothers with a complex confusion conclusion wondering, am I a man or a woman? Having attended 3 Universities and 2 Colleges back when, dated many a female, also rubbed shoulders with many down to earth blue collar and business Private Sector males there is no doubt that these so called well educated male theorists of the 60s-70s stared the ball rolling via the Political spectra implementing into for instance the Charter of Rights LAWS against Traditional families and I say God’s Natural Laws. I’ll end with this > inside most women they do NOT agree or want feminist Ideologies yet many younger women declare themselves as such only because they see Power in getting what they want from the mothers by saying, “well, I am a feminist too” when they are not pragmatically speaking. They want their cake and eat it too Bob which is farrrrrrrrrrrr from “Equality, the lying mantra these self-indulged females. Currently, 5 decades later at Women’s conferences an astounding number admit to being either lesbians or bi-sexual which reveals an aspect of feminism they now expect ALL of us out here to bend once again accepting this to be normal thus Gay Marriage?! There is no end to their wrath against Natural :Law, our Creator, Traditional men AND WOMEN too. As I type some young women have had enough !!! of them thank goodness. Funny, when they speak out against their own feminist gender it has a stronger effect than if the real targeted gender being males, speak out against Feminists like the “guest” above Bob. So when another male goes against a male speaking out this I see as “destructive” and the men that tend to do and they are few and far between are happily married men and fathers. I hope this elaborated enough without me having to share the lengthy list of the effects of Feminism on our western culture. Oh one last thing; note that feminist women within this site, when taken on will either give a brief statement with little substance ending with a “lol” OR, they will go on and on spewing their Liberal jargon siting sort of “to each their own” OR personally attack the messenger so all in all, they purposely AVOID the substantial effects caused by Feminist Ideology because they reaped the Socio-FINANCIAL benefits of this Ideology pushed on all of us by this Special Interest group who lobbied for change over 6 decades and STILL keep it up until not “Equality” but Takeover is complete both Inside the home and outside the home. Women Studies altered to Gender Studies on campuses is a subtle way of THEM the “NOW Gang” trying to keep afloat amidst some of their Granddaughters and most ethnic women FINALLY not wanting much to do with the Caucasian feminist mothers. It is a trick trying to lure men in to indoctrinate them and well, I read that certain Universities are now pushing for “Male Studies” to counteract the poisonous Women Studies that has breed too many narcissistic male hating females. What a waste of money whether it be parents, students’ or tax payers; meanwhile, we cannot get enough of our won people to work in Primary Industries, Trades and other blue collar jobs that pay well yet in contrast, both USA and Canada indulge in the hiring so many TAX payer Paid female civil servants having fewer children yet higher divorce rates …. when “what do you do for a living” is asked by feminists to women “and the answer is” {Who Wants To Be A Millionaire Show”) > “oh, I am a housewife with a wonderful husband and ? children” whereupon the feminist thinks or may reply “oh is that all you do?” … these feminists personally attack MY MOTHER and FATHER who raised 5 children and had separate roles where as happy in everyway possible. So, better that you Career oriented no children or maybe 1 or 2 yet you divorced your husband bringing in anther lonely father’s Income as a dam “step-Dad” not giving a DAM what the children want > Feminists!
David, thank you for your response – it obviously took a lot of effort! 🙂
With respect to “Guest” I can only speculate to his age and motivations but it appeared to me that he was mirroring the feminists in his zeal against family. Maybe that is not the case but that was my impression.
As I single man I do feel the frustration of marriage as it has become seriously corrupted by the insidious interference of the State. I have witnessed both my father and my brother financially ruined by marriage and in the case of my father, deeply emotionally wounded. But without marriage, I would not exist nor would my niece and nephew.
So I hesitate to say “fuck kids, fuck marriage”. I recognize the risks to me are high and this is what worries me. But in most cases, what does a man leave behind without children? Virtually all the great men in history worked hard to leave behind progeny, to carry on their great works, notwithstanding the human race! As such, I do not believe the way forward is to just give up to the feminists (who are anti-human in my view) but to find a solution to the matter.
Quickly Bob since I am tied up with vehicle and home rain seepage problems right now, after the Wings serve up a returning bruise to the Bruins I hope as the most recent Class of the NHL for 3 decades though I am a sadly devoted LOL Leaf fan, I will reply to your response AND, I hope you don’t mind that I also purposely posted my reply up top for one and all simply because I would like the “Cats”, “Evas”, “Lisa” and other females herein search for at least something inside themselves other than their own Individual tree-like lives within this vast forest of world-wide peoples affected by Feminism. Their have been a growing number of extreme narcissistic ladies out there getting away with Hellishness and they need to be taken on BUT via “substantial critical thinking” that is undeniable evidence. Hopefully, this methodology can draw these types out of their “me first” mentality. Catch you later then … “Bobs the word” from a Dick Van Dyke movie I can’t recall LOL
EnglishBob, sorry I haven’t properly responded yet to your last reply but I will this weekend meanwhile BTW, that Van Dyke saying was from “Mary Poppin’s” and was “Bob’s my Uncle” LOL too funny! We all need to LAUGH more … we forget how wonderful it was to be a child even for a few years wayyyyy back when & then > my heroes were “Super Man”, “Lone Ranger” {reruns}, “The Rifleman”, and most of all “Hoss, Ben, Little Joe, and Adam CARTWRIGHT”. For decades now male role models in all of Pop culture from TV, Movies to especially Music have vanished, and it is done purposely to appease the rising stars of “Women Power” while males are depicted as wimps, gay, UFC so called men beating up on each other hence, NO decent MORALISTIC role models for boys, teenagers, young adults ALL eventually and supposedly aspiring to be (what is the outcast word again) > fathers? Yes FATHERS who were created to protect, teach, be HEROES to their children and NOT merely the fashionable word we here constantly catered to as my own mother predicted would happen as she watched Oprah back in the 80s, MOTHERS _ and “women”.
Ha ha yes “mums the word” or “Bob’s your uncle”. Very true male heroes have fallen out of vogue. As long as we aren’t fooled however…
You’re asking to be treated in an equal and fair manner (lol).
This issue is one of many where men are asked to behave one way but for women it’s deemed ‘ok’ And right, you can look but only if you’re good looking.
Like Dave Chappelle said regarding men watching women…”sorry, but you are wearing a whore’s uniform”(lol).
So true why are they here anyways.
Women these days…
Just plain DONT GET IT.
For the simple reason that THEY DON”T WANT TO, and will not as long as they are allowed to.
But when it all comes crashing down upon their heads and it will not become safe to be a feminist, you won’t find ANY woman that “considers” herself a feminist.
Remember, you will never find a “strong, independent woman who doesn’t need a man” on a sinking ship (remember the Costa Concordia), for the same reason that you couldn’t find any Nazis in Germany following their defeat at the end of WWII.
No these bitches get it, trust me, they got it 100 fucking years ago…
Differences now they dont hide their colors.
Modern civilisation makes me fucking sick these days.
Back in the day I swear Vogue used to have some absolute stunners as its cover girls…now its latest issue has Jabba the Slut and her obnoxious fiancé (dis)gracing its front covers.
The rapid downward spiral of mediocrity and shame for modern civilisation continues.
That fat jelly textured old hog Kartrashian represents everything that is wrong with modern life.
I’m borrowing Jabba the Slut from you.
Absolutely fine by me!
WHAT A SHOCK THAT A MUSLIM IS A MISOGYNIST. WHAT A SHOCKING REALIZATION
Okay, wow. Let me ask you again. If we’re degenerates, who enjoy a degenerate blog you also frequent, then what does that make you again?????
Your temperament is indistinguishable from ours, the sardonic delivery of your comments are equally as repugnant and to be honest at times your obsession with a website you seem to hate (but secretly love) is down right creepy.
If you hate Return of Kings so much, WHY ARE ALL OF THE COMMENTS IN YOUR FEED ARE FROM RETURN OF KINGS? If you can’t stand this website, it’s values or the men here who value the aforementioned, WHY ARE ALL OF THE COMMENTS IN YOUR FEED ARE FROM RETURN OF KINGS? Why even validate us by acknowledging our existence? What are you even doing here???
From a bystander’s point of view, it would seem as though you’ve created a Disqus account, for the sole purpose of being a miserable cunt and contributing nothing but demagoguery and pseudo-intellectual drivel to these conversations.
Again, the irony of trolling a website you obviously hate (but secretly love), not only reinforces you being a cunt but also lends a considerable amount of credibility to what we discuss here on a regular basis.
We actually like being here. What’s your excuse? Is doing positive things, that you actually like, too overwhelming to you?
In light of this new information (i.e. you’re a bigot), our lack of political correctness clearly isn’t the issue. So fess up, what’s your problem really? Did your ex-husband run off to Turks & Caicos with the kids’ smoking hot venezuelan nanny and this blog hits a little too close to home? Was your biological father a pathological drinker who beat the tar out of your mom or did your step-father sneak in your bedroom while your mother pulled double shifts at the local Denny’s???
please stop feeding the trolls. It will get you banned, and it makes it more likely that someone besides you will read their bullshit.
Bitches gotta bitch about something, you know…
SHE’S A SLUT BUT YOU’RE NOT FOR ALL YOUR RAPE AND PHILANDERING? THIS IS WHAT IS CALLED HYPOCRISY.
Vogue is for women’s fashion. And what’s up with the discrimination?
Sad day when a fat, plastic, classless, attention seeking slag graces the cover of, what use to be a high fashion magazine. That Wintour bitch must have been paid untolds by fatty’s spade husband to get her that gig….
Feminists get much deserved criticism here. But in my experience since becoming a father 12 years ago, today’s stay at home moms ain’t exactly worth defending either. I live in a conservative Midwest city and trust me, today’s SAHMs aren’t at all they’re cracked up to be. SAHMs are the group most responsible for suburban sprawl. They’re raising spoiled brats (I have a relative who works at a college & tells me about the precious little teacups who can’t handle any form of adversity). They’re clogging up the court system with divorce filings because they aren’t “haaaapppyyy,” and they just generally act like the world owes them a 4 bedroom house and a fucking minivan. I do not remember the moms from my mother’s generation being like today’s little mommies.
BRUCE WHY DON’T YOU REVEAL YOURSELF AND LET ME SHARE THSI INFORMATION WITH YOUR POOR SPOUSE? GEEZ YOU MONSTERS. MY HUSBAND WOULD NEVER SPEAK LIKE THIS
Clearly there’s a lot of things your husband isn’t doing if you have time to antagonize strangers on the internet.
Good point and note MAUREEN shoots the messenger offering no substance by not addressing the message factually. Typical emotional response
Of course he wouldn’t because you likely wouldn’t allow him to speak some Truth.
He says it subconsciouly lol
This does not ring true in my neck of the woods. There are some areas of the world that are missing vital pieces of the puzzle it takes to raising a child. There needs to be the mother and the father and a community support system to help raise children in a healthy manner. Today’s stay at home parents are stressed out because this is not the way it is supposed to be. Other traditions have generations all living in the same house with grandparents there to give wisdom to the young and wisdom to the parents who are new to this.
What? U R a Socialist. Pieces of the puzzle missing even in today’s taxed too death Socialism giving mothersevery angle to maneuver to get want THEY want and not kids especially not fathers! Community support what!? IF we pay anymore taxes lady for MORE community support our national debt will be Bankruptcy. You do not understand how money is made and circulates and REAL Jobs that many males have and civil servant ladies waste.
this is a good argument to why we need to promote the falling birth rates. downsize in store
It’s a better argument for why we need to remove legal protections from women, except through their husbands and male relatives.
believe me, women, like children, are both better-behaved and happier when they understand that misbehavior will bring physical punishment.
Consistency is key. You don’t train your dog by catering to it’s bad behavior.
I’m not sure I go for reformation, but upheaval in order to wash away the dirt I do support
You aren’t old enough, and haven’t seen enough childishness from women yet, to understand. But you will someday… I hope it doesn’t catch you.
to clarify what I said before; I don’t think attempting a time machine is the answer, law and justice-wise the rules will never be brought back to the ‘old days’ but I do agree with creating the conditions for there to be a necessity of us, by anarchy or otherwise
Or ya know……do what all you little oh-so-proud “I’m a redpill because I hate religion” types would abhor and bring some religion back into society.
Traditional religion does a very good job of teaching women how to fulfill the role that nature intended females to fill.
all you? Wait, do you assume I don’t support religioous social controls? Seriously?
Dude, the reason I thought you were a woman is because you fight like one, building strawmen everywhere. Howsabout, instead of looking like an idiot, we agree you just won’t respond to my comments?
Being an Atheist is Way Blue Pill, another form of herd mentality and a ferry tale.
Believing in Billions of years you guest it: Blue Pill shit.
Let’s not forget hating Capitalism; big time Blue Balls Blue Pill Shit.
Being a Pantheist; yeah Blue Pill Mangina Territory turban head shit.
sorry, did we speak earlier?
I’m going to respond to the comments I like….and I don’t particularly care who made them. I only care about the comments.
Nor was that personally directed at you, but at all the idiots who hate religion just because it’s cool to.
The irony is that I actually agree with your comment, it just implies by ‘all you’ that i am in the camp.
Sure, I am an atheist, but it’s for damned sure not for everyone… 99% of all ‘atheists’ are too stupid to understand the huge burden of ethics and morality this truly dumps on the head of the conscious man.
I don’t WANT other people to be atheists… They have replaced Christianity with the cult of humanism, Richard Dawkins as the living God. they are using ‘humanism’ as an excuse to forgive horrors that are even WORSE than the lies they claim about Christianity, they have replaced ‘sacrament’ with fetal sacrifice, sunday worship with worshipping the idol of vaginal infallibility, and christian values with multiculturalism and unlimited atrocities in the name of equality.
The cult of the human god has done more harm in 20 years than islam and christianity have managed in 20 centuries.
Anyone who tries to ‘convert’ you to Atheism, or ‘convince you’ that religion is wrong, evil, or stupid, is not an atheist, they are a ‘man is god’ cultist.
If you have ANY doubts about the value of morality and ethics, the golden rule, or the real cultural significance of honor and sacrifice, you had best remain traditionally religious… you will come to the same conclusion, without all the soul searching and mentally reinventing the wheel we had to do.
Agreed, however there doesn’t appear to be much “traditional religion” left. Outside of going full frontal Amish, the pickins are slim. Even going to a trad catholic church these days is more akin to going to a circus where women are pedastalized and men are shamed into betahood.
Haven’t been to an Orthodox church yet, I hear they still have some resemblance of sanity.
main reason for the “you all” is because there’s a lot of childishness and stupidity that you can guarantee the comment people on here will make….a lot of “but what about X?!” or “But so and so says!” or “According to X piece of fiction/theory!”
You know as well as I do that most of these self-styled “redpills” are really just bluepill, virgin nerds who think they’re special because they hate women and religion.
That’s starting to change. Catholics are always going to slightly pedestal women because of their reverence for Mary, but their pedestalization comes along with the expectation that women are supposed to act a certain way.
The shaming of men is also starting to change. Some of the churches in my area are starting to do development seminars for the men, with the intent of trying to drive home the point that the Christian Bible expects men to act as the LEADER of the family(and not a super nice guy who bows to the female, it’s right there that she’s supposed to submit to you) and get them into the mentality of acting that way.
That will last until she calls 9-1-1 and says those three magic words: “I feel afraid”; then the White Knights in Blue Uniforms will come visit you and take you away to the slammer for “Domestic Violence”.
For men, marriage has become a game of ‘musical electric-chairs’: even if you “win”, you LOSE.
Physical punishment? You must financial punishment. The worst Legal protections are those in Custody Battles of Family Court and when the monies run dry soon enough do you think lawyers will turn on mothers to pay ?
My problem with religion is that it is child abuse, the churches are feminist anyway, what is the point? All my christian childhood friends are really broken like me.
That’s what happens when you give them “equality”. The best thing to do is just avoid marriage at this point. you’re not just marrying a woman these days you’re also marrying the state. And as we know the state is just teeming with white nights, manginas, and feminists. Parasites sucking on the host.
American men need to boycott marriage. Then when only the successful and wealthier females can find mates — by “marrying down”, men can take on the role of the hypergamous one. Then see how fast the divorce laws change, when the females are on the receiving end of the pain.
Amen….marry a rich bitch, cheat on her and take half…
Then go fuck her best friend.
GREAT point too like Bruce and guess what? We are slowly headed down that road. I have suggested to many young males to never live with a lady unless a legalized contract is created otherwise, you are taking a huge risk! I’ve even come to the sad belief that males should refrain from sharing their Seed as part of boycotting feminism. We must get rid of this unnatural Cancer destroying our culture much like farrrrrr too many technologies yet we are Godless.
Good luck marrying a rich woman because they almost always live with an equally rich male or richer. Women do not share money well at all as men know.
Don’t knock it entirely. There’s a lot to be said for a good, capable, family-focused woman who will take care of all your needs on the home front…….which means you can focus almost all your energy in success in your other ambitions.
Good luck finding that though. While I have every reason to believe I’ve got that……. I know full well that finding that kind of woman is like winning the lottery these days.
Yeah…you know that someone is going to win, it’s just not going to be you.
Another excellent comment…most men here have made truthful factual points
Also…I do hate the little brats that pass for “men” these days.
It isn’t always diversity, but you know one of the things that I love about my hobbies? Let’s use one as an example but my other hobbies share their version of this sometimes.
Skiing……I like to go into the wildest, furthest out, hardest trails on the hills in the worst wearther(like a “polar vortex” caused blizzard). I like to do this because when I’m out there, in 5*f weather, snow falling, perhaps the run is more difficult than I anticipated, and my legs areburning in the middle of nowhere without a cell signal I don’t get to whine and bitch. If I whine and bitch I’m only going to make things worse and freeze longer. In those situations the ONLY choice I have is to embrace the suck and do what I have to do in order to make it down that mountain……so that I can enjoy a beer and do it all over again.
Also, getting away from Urban madness to nature where physicality reigns makes a man feel like a man again rather than a shopping driving urbanite stressed to the hilt.
This is where I get confused as a new ROK member…
Since reading the Community Beliefs written by Roosh V, I see that majority (if not all) find socialism as a disease of society… but in such a capitalistic society where women are the main targets of consumerism… hasn’t the capitalist corporations created expectations for women, including SAHMs?
If this statement/claim that I’ve made is invalid, please feel free to point me in the right direction of what is really the cause of all these expectations in women (including SAHMs)
Socialism is a disaster because it takes monies from families via taxes whereas IF the dam churches did their job THEY could collect that tax money on collection plates without ALL those dam civil servants being hired many of which are women wasting their time in those Careers when they could be having more children. As for Capitalism, there are so many products we indulge we do not need, paying billions of wasted dollars to Coca Cola, McDonalds, Boos, Cigs, the list goes on and on … so I do believe in very low taxes but also much less needles consumerism. Where do you think they reach a sensible balance? Our Primary Industry run culture was much healthier years ago.
You Bruce have raised an interesting point. I didn’t know their divorce rate is the high EVEN though they are looked after so hmm; maybe it is too much money? Other women telling them “oh, that is all you do? A housewife!?” The Family courts are full of ALL types. You are right as my Mom from WW2 generation was a HWife 5 children and happy as a lark organized beautiful artistic AND a real Christian. Far too many unnecessary Technologies I believe is ruining families, cultures, environments more than anything else.
The worst thing I see on the road, today….a man driving a minivan. I saw a couple of guys driving, just yesterday, and I thought “of all of the fucking types of cars to own…a minivan?”.
Guess who runs that household (lol)?
I’m a stay at home wife due to job loss. And I agree with you 100%. Because me and my husband don’t have children. And all of my friends are either single mothers or stay at home moms, and I’ve never seen a bunch of unhappy women in my life. They are unhappy because they have the kids (and almost simultaneously scream to the gods and social media how ” fulfilling” being a mother is) and hates any woman that doesn’t have children. You know how many times I’ve heard ” you’ll never understand until you’ve had kids” or ” must be nice to sleep in on a saturday”. Ok, not sure what the fuck your problem is, but don’t take the fact that you’ve gotten less than 6 hours of sleep a night for the past 6 years out on me because I made different life decisions.
Amy glass is chrissie Stockton or stockington, all her articles contradict each other.
Who really wants to be equal? Everyone wants to be on top of the social strata. I cannot blame them. People are going to take whatever route they can to try to get there. I respect that, and I’ll do it myself. If our views cannot peacefully coexist, we’ll just have to fight. That’s how things work in the world, really.
Not everyone wants to be on top. Some just want to lay next to the other. Not everyone wants to step on someone.
especially women. The appropriate word for women’s behavior is ‘social climber’. This used to be considered disgusting and shameful, but now it’s been re-named ‘ambition’ and glorified by femgorillas like Sheryl Sandhog.
Very nice article, enjoyed it very much. Thanks for writing it. One of the problem with women is that they don’t know what they want. They are guided by emotions rather than logic. That’s why its so easy to manipulate them. Their nature is naturally submissive I have found. Feminism, has sold them this idea which a lot of them more or less subscribe to. I feel not only do we need to call out girls on unacceptable behaviour and disillusioned perceptions of gender roles, equally important is it that we start shaming the men acting in accordance with this shit. The common trend nowadays is that its ok to be under your woman in a relationship, that she has the calls. Dread. Ive seen so many alpha potential guys fall into the trap, and I blame it mostly due to the political waters our society is in at the moment. We desperately need to start beta shaming in the most uncompromisible way. Im doing my part, already lost few friends, but truth is I just cant have beta friends anymore, it just makes me frustrated and angry, plus I don’t have anything to talk to them about anymore. Forgive me my poorer English, Im European.
Well said, the feminist bullshit is being kept alive with beta males.
Also it seems like beta males also lack wisdom and philosophy which are signs of intelligence. No wonder alphas can`t relate to a less developed man.
Please understand you can have a family and be alpha as well…it`s how your mindset works that matters.
Thanks,you are correct. One can be in a relationship of course and/or have a family and still be Alpha, or at least not a pussy beta whos actions and train of thought only serve to disgust you as well as feeling sorry for your “friend” whom once was a stand up guy you even looked up to. A couple of years in the LTR can do scary shit to even the most best of men.
Your English is very good, it’s just your syntax that needs a little work — I easily understood you and the points you made. Keep practicing!
Your written English is very good. Many Europeans speak better English than Americans. My Icelandic friend used “Machiavellian” in a political discussion, a word most Americans wouldn’t even know.
Thanks, Im from Norway. I like your Nick, hammer of Thor!
WHAT YOU RAPIST MISOGYNIST PIGS DON’T UNDERSTAND IS THAT WOMEN DON’T WANT TO BE DEPENDANT ON A MAN…SO BY HAVING A CAREER AND EARNING POWER, WE ARE FREE FROM PATRIARCHY AND CENTURIES OF OPPRESSION.
YOU WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND THIS BECAUSE YOU HAVE NEVER FACED IT.
IT’S LIKE THOSE WHO DIDN’T SUFFER IN THE HOLOCAUST.
BUT IF YOU LOST FAMILY LIKE I DID YOU WILL ALSO SAY “NEVER AGAIN.”
Maureen, having a career gives into patriarchy but I do not shame you for choosing to follow what you as a woman (if I can assume you are a woman) for this is what YOU want and you have that right! It is true that we have gained many rights in the past century, and the fight is not over, but to be truly free of patriarchy we must choose anarchy. Power should not be power over others or power in the mind, it should be power harnessed and shared with other souls.
I was having a discussion with my girlfriend about this the other day.
“You’re against feminism?” she asked.
“I guess I just don’t see the point. They claim to stand up for both men and women, but do nothing about misandry. What’s in it for me…or you.”
I explained to her that the media insists on one thing: every woman should give it up as much as she can. Ride the cock carousel and don’t worry about tomorrow…until tomorrow gets here. I told her a woman’s looks are the credit she’s given in life and feminism can’t help you if you blow it.
I share with her a lot of concepts mentioned on here and she, surprisingly, agrees with me every time. I think a good amount of women are skeptical of feminism, but unfortunately, the Sisterhood will put a hit out on them if they admit it publicly.
Don’t kid yourself, she will humor you until she’s ready to trade up. Then you will be the “misogynist” she badmouths to all her female friends and family.
Feminism is as natural to women as water is to fish. (Bicycles not included.)
I don’t care if her friends and family know I’m a misogynist. I openly tell her I am one. And she may trade up, sure, but I may beat her to the punch.
My car will break down one day, too. Doesn’t mean I’ll be riding a fucking bicycle around to stop that from happening.
Then you are wasting your breath discussing these matters with her. But if it makes you happy, go for it. Good luck.
I don’t care if she picks up on the logic. Most women don’t pick up on anything unless it involves the group-think. I casually make observations about whatever I like. I’ve told her from the get-go she can walk if she wants and…gasp…she hasn’t.
You’re more caveman than me. You win.
“You’re more caveman than me. You win.”
There is no shame in letting women be women, unaccosted by our problems. Would you discuss the finer points of econometrics with an eskimo? He doesn’t care; she doesn’t care. (But may politely listen if you get her wet.)
I don’t harangue her with our “plight”. I could see your point if I was actively trying to convince her, but I’m not. I just make casual references here and there. Hardly a crusader. Most men outside this site won’t admit the flaws of feminism, why would I expect any woman to?
Agreed.
I think that a lot of women are skeptical of feminism because they don’t actually understand what it means, and it should be known that feminism is equality between men and women. If your girlfriend enjoys being equal to you, dressing the way she wants, her chosen profession then she is a feminist by default. It is not something you choose unless you choose to believe that women should not have the right to equality whether you are a man or woman.
I for one, thank the feminist oligarchs for providing alpha males and alpha’s in training with the overabundance of sluts to pump and dump at will. There has literally never been a time in history where pussy was handed out so freely as much as in this modern era.
For those men about to fuck and chuck, we salute you!
It is actually the modern patriarchy and media controlled by men that has formed these women you call ‘sluts.’ And if a woman wants to be a slut then so be it! She can do what she wants.
True dat. In addition to precepts like “Women don’t want to be anything other than conventionally beautiful”, we might add something akin to: “Women want only conventional treatment from men”.
Not long ago I was out for dinner with a female friend. She’s tall, fit, strong, and independent. It wasn’t a date – we were just getting together to talk and share. Normal friendship stuff. We’ve known each other for years.
But — she wanted me to drive, waited until I opened doors for her, and — after telling me what she had selected from the menu — asked me if I wanted to order for both of us. As writer Psanctus summarizes so well, the female nature wants what it wants.
she likes you more than a friend…
Yeah…so BEWARE!
Enjoyed the article. But I think an important point should be made. I wouldn’t fall for the woman who disavows herself from feminism and says she does not want what feminism has to offer. You try removing all the privilege and entitlement given to her in society by feminism and she’ll soon be singing a different tune. That’s why I think women and feminism are intimately linked. One won’t exist without the other, regardless of what a woman says to you. Have these “non feminists” ever done anything let alone express sympathy for men in society today (divorce, false allegations, etc.)? There lies your answer gentlemen.
As a feminist I support whomever is in the right. I have a few male friends who have been sexually harassed by other men and by other women thinking that men just want to have sex all the time. There are women who make up lies, there are men who make up lies. It is unfair to judge someone by their sex.
When it comes right down to it, women are happiest with someone who fucks the shit out of them, provides for them, and gives them that safe feeling that comes from knowing that someone with authority and ability are making the big decisions. They might say otherwise, but I have never seen any woman who is happy dating a faggoty mangina who rolls over. At the end of the day biology wins out and so called strong independent women are deeply unhappy. All bitches must worship the cock.
My husband has been out of country for the past 3 weeks and I am comfortable fending for myself as I usually do. We share our responsibilities and support each other’s interests. My husband has told me he likes and wants me to make the decisions because he doesn’t have the patience to think about the details. That is how we build our business and get things done day to day. Some women want a man to take care of, some women want a man to take care of them, some women want a level playing field, some women want women. According to all my male friends, the same goes for men as well.
Pretty good post, and consistent with what I’ve observed in real life until you got to “bitches must worship the cock”. Go in with that attitude and you just come off with a douchebag. The reality is that you don’t just take that, you have to be on a high enough level as a man that chicks want to give you that control.
@Psanctus- It is beyond fallacious to claim that radical feminism is a war waged solely on men—it is absolutely a war on women as well.
A war? HAH! you arrogant gentiles. We won years ago. Are your women not so in love with their make work cubicle “careers”? The carousel, abortion and her own genetic extinction? Does she not now despise the thought of the “nuclear family”? Does she not prize deviancy and welcome foreign hordes? Is she not hooked every night on OUR programming and indoctrination, and has been ever since birth? Who runs your education systems from early childhood to adult? Oy Vey give us some credit.
Feminism has never hurt anyone. There was never a war waged.
Men still have the upper hand and it is still crucial to bring to light the inequalities to give us all equal rights. no discrimination. no domination.
The career is created by patriarchy. This whole society is created by patriarchy.
I have to say, I like the new rules about not replying to females. They screech and hem and haw, and just get ignored. Just like life should be.
Unfortunately a lot of guys haven’t gotten the message yet,
Yeah, I learned the error of my ways now.
Ah, the delicious irony of the feral and demographically sterile (i.e. on the road to extinction) man-hating feminists coming on here to shit up the message board right after the “Women Have No Sense of Justice” article was posted earlier today. Men standing up for their own rights and beliefs is now verboten, just because they don’t square with your agenda?
You can throw hissy fits all day long but you will never be able to put men back into a cage. You will merely be replaced in the gene pool by more viable females, a process that is well-underway if you perform even the most elementary study of demographics.
Such vitriol and hatred for men like I see on display here is a peculiar and uniquely Anglo-American phenomenon. It’s interesting to see the mask come off.
Remember men: Rationality belongs to the cool, calm, and collected observer.
This article is totally unfounded since the first paragraph describes feminists inaccurately. Look up a real feminist. As a male you cannot speak for women in any situation.
Lean In is falling flat as Ban Bossy backfires.
this whole women only movement is scary…..reminds me of nazism.
Men want wives, not co-workers.
http://www.the-spearhead.com/2012/02/20/a-man-wants-a-wife-not-a-co-worker
The pros know how it works.
It’s a real shame these women who are capable of getting higher education and careers don’t put energy into being good wives and mothers. If only that energy could be used constructively…
Guys, don’t feed the trolls!!!
Roosh, can you please bring down the ban hammer on these women and the guys replying to them?
Christ, can’t we do anything about all the undesirables here?
I can accept the certain amount of shit we put up with just to get access to the lukewarm hole between their legs.
But this?
Dear Mods: Could you kindly remove the obvious troll in this discussion? Many thanks in advance.
What ? don’t you love her 300 replies of “coz patriarchy”, coz patriarchy, coz patriarchy, everyone should do what they want, everyone should do what they want, everyone should do what they want….patriarchy..do what want..patriarchy..do what want… patr..want…patriwant.
Patriarchy and carousels for the femletariat!
I swear some of these damaged bitches would still be “COZ PATRIARCHY!!” even if every man in the West was exactly like Richard Simmons.
Actually scratch that, most men of the West are like Richard Simmons but you get what I’m trying to say.
oh yeah and …
Coz Patriarchy!!!
Not a single person replied to Holly, who is now banned along with Maureen. It could’ve been worse.
In Sweden that probably counts as rape.
It definitely counted as rape to Maureen. That was “her” favorite thing to scream about.
I like the word too. It drives those cunts nuts.
She screams about anything and everything that ‘offends’ her. She is the stereotypical feminist that will always be on the lookout for something that will be ‘offensive’, just so she can be ‘offended’.
Do you want to REALLY ‘offend’ her? Ignore her.
Replying from Sweden, you bet it would. At least, I doubt the poster
rules Roosh_V has set up would be able to survive very long on a Swedish
server. The media would get hold of it and launch a hateful smear
campaign/Twitter storm against “hate”, whereby the company in question
would get the message and close down his site, the alternative being
branded as supporters of misogynist right-wing extremists.Free media in Sweden all survive on overseas hosting.
It is a pity. It’s a cool place in so many ways but political correctness has made it somewhere I love to visit but would not live in. And it is such a shame because it would be one of the coolest places in Europe if it were not for political correctness.
Thank you for the kind words. It used to be different. If you talk to someone who was alive in the 50’s they can describe a frank, candid and open society where differing opinions and values were respected, and where men were men and women women. Then the cultural revolution of the 60’s happened, courtesy of a certain generation, and it’s largely been downhill from there, with the possible exception of the ‘reactive’ 1980’s.
Being 43 I’ve seen most of the descent into Political Correctness happen in my lifetime until the system currently is likely best being defined as Totalitarian Democracy.
Nowadays, if someone asks, I mostly feel ashamed having to admit I’m Swedish, to be part of this moronic nation. I hate Big Brother. I hate his guts.
No one could make heads or tails of what she was on about. Maybe she’s a dog: Holly the Collie.
The real problem with the divide between feminists and feminine women is that with male assistance, it’s possible to narrow the gap. Anyone else remember when young women preferred to look nice, and tomboys were as rare as a black pearl? Now we’ve got faux tomboys everywhere- they look like shit, but still are as useless as tits on a tree. That’s the gift of male feminist enablers. The limp-wristed heterosexual set will accept a flat-chested hairy-legged freemartin as rapidly as a masculine man will a true beauty.
Personally, I’m more inclined towards the notion that these different inherent desired of woman are due to nurture not nature. While perfectly understandable, given that the nature of human culture is that it feels natural, biological explanations tend to be a tad reductionist. It’s clear that in many hunter-gatherer communities, most of the food was gathered by women, who would venture from home every day while most of the men stayed at home most of the time, venturing out occasionally for weeks long hunts.
The current state of women, I think, is due to the irresponsible manner in which they are raised, without accountability or lessons of emotional constraint. The potential of half the population is squandered by idiots that can’t tell their crying daughter to walk it off when she skins her knees. Feminity is a cultural disease.
I do believe that is natural, though for anyone to have a deep investment in the opposite gender seeing them as attractive. Natural selection would se to be a direct player in this. However, plenty of degenerate men assure their hopeless friends that they have a shot with women who wouldn’t even look at them.
Yes, men are stronger than woman and the two are certainly suited to different physical tasks and even tend towards certain sexual preferences, but in an age where machines do most of the heavy work and where creativity and mental fortitude are required to truly contribute, femininity is a liability and feminists will fuck us all as their goal is to infect men with this disease of over-emotionalism and lack of accountability.
Rofl, men went, in 50 years, from putting men on the moon to canceling the space program since we’ve got no more money, all of it spent on foreign wars and supporting legions of single mothers in the ghetto. There is nothing more incredible and awe inspiring to any man than looking at the photos of the universe.
All these working women should surely have figured out a solution, right? They obviously have the answer to making a perfect society, so why has society become a completely aimless free for all with no ultimate goals, no spiritual health, a cutthroat animal house overrun with crime (committed by lonely men) and dysfunction?
Short answer: women.
Women won’t mind if the whole world is burning as long as they can wear their Alexander Wang heels and look faaaaaabulous strutting past that pile of corpses. Women know 100% that men need them on every level, on EVERY level, in order to be productive in society. The fact that they become such conniving, heartless, denying and hypergamous demons in the face of all this, in the face of a society that is plummeting faster than the space shuttle Columbia, really speaks to their nature.
All men, most men, at once point in their lives want there to be a god. They want there to be a higher existence, something more meaningful for their lives. Women, not even once, stop to ponder anything beyond their own existence.
women were never meant to leave their men….in doing so we are all paying the price of nature.
also notice how feminist mothers to boys tend to call them with girlie boy names?
The “money wasted on foreign wars” paradigm is largely a leftist one. The budgets for the wars are actually not that high if you look them up. They are a drop in the bucket compared to other spending. Philosophical observation: Back in WWII, Rosie the Riveter working on an assembly line making a tank got a pretty good wage while the average GI Joe got a can of spam while getting shot at. The same is true today of civilian workers compared to front line troops. The money goes mostly to local pork barrel spending and ironically (or intentionally) to liberal districts. The left often protested in front of military based in San Francisco. Then when the bases were shut down, they protested again about the economic impact.
Another thing to keep in mind is that money “saved” by ending foreign wars doesn’t necessary go to us. As the paradigm observes, it will go to social programs to increase rather than end poverty. Heck, the best thing to do is dig a hole and throw the money in it.
Feminists biorobots really mess the comment section up.
You can not have an adult conversation without them talking shit. Just go the fuck away.
I just want to talk with men, and have an interesting conversation.
Lol, notice the only one “screaming” – i.e., using caps, is a woman.
The other woman “H” merely spouts feminist one liners straight out of the book without actually putting in any thought to the matter or contributing interesting or novel ideas.
To a feminist, screaming at a man is “communicating”, but a man raising his voice is “abuse”.
Check out the linked NY times article comments – hamster plague!!
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/11/opinion/sunday/when-leaning-in-doesnt-pay-off.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=1&
Apparently white men are unqualified to conduct research in sociology, despite “Scott Schieman is a professor, Markus Schafer is an assistant professor and Mitchell McIvor is a doctoral candidate, all in the sociology department at the University of Toronto.” Why are these qualified men bad at sociology? Because they arent telling women what they want to hear, durr!
God I’m glad I found the manosphere.
I had been noticing feminism getting stupider, more aggressive, more discriminatory and more insulting in recent years but didn’t have the context to understand why.
It’s going to get worse too, and arguably, the sad part is that the people that are supposed to be helped by it are going to get screwed over.
40% of single mothers end up in poverty but the feminist movement doens`t want to acknowledge this pesky detail about their neo-nazi movement in disguise….
Not to mention the damage their fatherless alpha sproglets are now wreaking on society and the rate they are filling up our prisons. This shit is not going to end well for anyone.
This is a tactic of Marxism, and page from the nightmare history of the old USSR. Look it up.
Remember your history — because if you don’t, you will end up repeating it.
A lack of political diversity in psychology is said to lead to a number of pernicious outcomes, including biased research and active discrimination against conservatives. The authors of this study surveyed a large number (combined N = 800) of social and personality psychologists and discovered several interesting facts. First, although only 6% described themselves as conservative “overall,” there was more diversity of political opinion on economic issues and foreign policy. Second, respondents significantly underestimated the proportion of conservatives among their colleagues. Third, conservatives fear negative consequences of revealing their political beliefs to their colleagues. Finally, they are right to do so: In decisions ranging from paper reviews to hiring, many social and personality psychologists said that they would discriminate against openly conservative colleagues. The more liberal respondents were, the more they said they would discriminate.
Composite scores of perceived hostile climate for conservatives (! = .85) were significantly correlated with political orientation, r(263) = .28, p < .0001: The more liberal respondents were, the less they believed that conservatives faced a hostile climate. This correlation was driven entirely by more conservative respondents’ greater personal experience of a hostile climate: Controlling for personal experience, the relationship disappeared (r = −.01), suggesting that the hostile climate reported by conservatives is invisible to those who do not experience it themselves.
At the end of our surveys, we gave room for comments. Many respondents wrote that they could not believe that anyone in the field would ever deliberately discriminate against conservatives. Yet at the same time we found clear examples of discrimination. One participant described how a colleague was denied tenure because of his political beliefs. Another wrote that if the department “could figure out who was a conservative they would be sure not to
hire them.”
— Yoel Inbar and Joris Lammers, “Political Diversity in Social and Personality Psychology” http://yoelinbar.net/papers/political_diversity.pdf
hello admins of ROK. i watched the dateline NBC show “How to catch a predator” and to me something seems a bit off. could you do an article on the show? it seems like its just sacrificing lost beta/omega males for the belief that all men are evil perverts. just my two cents.
Well, as far as Modern Womyn are concerned, all men ARE evil perverts — unless they’re rich and handsome, of course.
Even worse is “What Would You Do?”, which contrives ridiculous public situations and has actors portraying racist/sexist/homophobes to catch unsuspecting citizens on hidden video not complying with PC directives.
Would love to see John Quinones or Chris Hanson getting punched hard in the face by one of their marks.
she wants it…
“Here’s one to see if strangers at a bar will protect a young woman from a predator…”
How ridiculous! Women said that they were “equal” and “don’t need a man”, remember? Well then, I’m not risking arrest or my life to “protect” some dumb drunk bimbo from her own bad choices.
One thing that I have learned is that Modern Womyn are rabid “equality” fanatics just as long (and ONLY as long) as “equality” gives them unearned privileges and special ‘rights’ over men; when “equality” starts meaning just THAT, they start screaming for chivalry!
Well, screw ‘chivalry’ — if I don’t know them personally, they’re on their own.
“Slowly, as more red pill truth seeps out, those women will abandon the feminist ideal as a false idol that never made good on its extravagant—and impossible—promises.”
Feminism is an offshoot of Marxism and Socialism — and both Marxism and Socialism have ALWAYS failed, no matter how many times they have been tried. America has seen many experiments in Socialism take place here, and each and every one of them has failed; Feminism is just the latest in a long series. The only reason that it has lasted so long is that it has received government backing and support — but that will come to an end when the money runs out.
Too bad that a lot of the women who are only now figuring out that feminism is a crock of shit and are trying to go back to being a housewife can’t find a husband because too many men have decided to turn away from marriage or find a foreign bride.
That is just too bad for them — women tore up their part of the social contract, fully expecting that men would keep doing their part. As far as women were concerned, “it’s just something that men do”.
We men took a bit longer, but we finally tore up our part, too — “equality”, you know. There is no sense in being a doormat or someone’s patsy.
Women may not have wanted this society we have, but this society IS the result of the choices that they have made.
Men have wised up, and don’t want to end up supporting a likely future ex-wife, or have to pay child support for kids who most likely aren’t his.
You can say that again.
But I doubt most men have wised up. There are plenty of ultra-thirsty betas out there pining away for companionship who would, stupidly, settle for damaged goods.
Problem for them is they are completely undersirable. Especially when five minutes of alpha is so readily available.
The hook up, single mommy society we have today is driven by women’s mating choices. Their abundance of sexual options and dogged pursuit of immediate gratification comes at the price of a desirable committed partner.
Good. It saves the blue pilled betas from themselves.
“…But I doubt most men have wised up. There are plenty of ultra-thirsty betas out there pining away for companionship who would, stupidly, settle for damaged goods.”
Can’t put it any better:
“There are three kinds of men: the ones that learn by reading, the few who learn by observation, and the rest of them who have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.” − Will Rogers
The similarities between “feminism” and “civil rights” are astonishing. The greatest similarity is the damage they have done to the very people they’ve claimed to “empower”. And of course, both of these “movements” have teamed up to create the nearly 75% out of wedlock birth rate in the Black community.
The civil rights movement was okay; I don’t think the most hardened HBD’er could justify Jim Crow. What really screwed the pooch were the perverse incentives for broken families and learned helplessness that the Johnson administration’s reform of the welfare system established. They are still with us in some form, still doing damage, now coming to a white lower middle class hood near you.
I am going to agree that the issues within the Black community are predictors of what will or can come to the rest of America’s populace. I am going to disagree that civil rights was a good thing. I’ll explain. The first problem with civil rights is the term “civil rights”. It implies that rights are tied with society and citizenship. In other words, rights are a consequence of an organized society. The problem is that rights are no longer individual and they are collectivized. Whatever the collective or group decides to be proper and just becomes the criteria upon which a particular right should or should not exist. The civil rights movement has decided that “racism” is bad and, therefore, thoughts and speech deemed to be racist are now criminalized. This is a denial of an individual’s right to his own thought or speech. Racism has now become a political tool used to shut down meaningful discussion in order to promote a political agenda. This is yet another incident of government seizing control of the right of the individual to speak and think as he pleases. There is more I could say on this but I’d rather move on to my second problem with the civil rights movement.
Civil rights presents itself as the only idea that produced Black empowerment and this is false. Civil Rights is a continuum within Black history that had a competing ideology. This competing ideology is something I call the “Bookerite Continuum”. These are the self help ideas of Booker T. Washington. Booker T. was all about Black folks “doing for self” and building a prosperity of their own through the use of Black “capital” (I mean capital in the economic sense). Booker’s ideas “continued” through Marcus Garvey who also preached a form of Black self reliance as well as Elijah Muhammad. The civil rights continuum is an invention of W.E.B. DuBois. I refer to the civil rights continuum as the “DuBoisian Continuum”. This set of ideas sought empowerment through the use of government. Whenever people seek something from government, the end result is abuse, destruction, decadence, and oppression. The Civil Rights Act forced people to surrender their right of property by demanding that they have no choice in providing service to persons of their own choosing. The Civil Rights establishment has falsely depicted the consequences of irresponsibility as racism. Consider the examples of Trayvon Martin and Crystal Mangum of “Duke Rape Case” fame. The Duke Rape Case is a classic example of the convergence of Feminism and Civil Rights. The “Bookerite Continuum” argued that individual effort and behavior was the source of empowerment not government legislation or forcing integration through the coercive force of law.
The result of both femininism and civil rights speak volumes about their effectiveness. All I see are sluts, hoes, niggaz, and white knights left in their wake. And if you live in the Black community, you live under the constant peril of being victimized by the very people who are often made into martyrs by Civil Rights Industrial Complex (See Trayvon Martin). Public schools in the Black community are havens of crime and violence. Black parents who give a damn deal with the daily stress of protecting their children from the aberrant socialization that comes from “nigga culture” OR they have to spend thousands to send their kids to private school. And the private school option is fraught with its own peril. Many private schools are all white and Black parents want to cultivate a Black identity in their children but an all white environment can alienate a young child and, possibly, result in that child seeing their Blackness as an aberration or mistake. But I digress. My entire point was to point out a few of the many catastrophes that Civil Rights has created. I could go on and on but I’ll stop here.
Reading the title, I was prepared to deal with a brigade of butthurt nerd virgins but I was pleasantly surprised.
For once I actually agree. What I’ve seen here is largely consistent with my observations in real life.
One example is that even a self-styled “strong, independent” woman I used to date (who had some rather deep issues due to the conflicting influences of a catholic upbringing,a mother who was a pathological socipathic narcissist, and the corrupting influences at an “elite” all girls college) didn’t enjoy being in charge as much as she thought she did. Just telling her that I wanted to grab her and throw her violently down on the bed would be enough to get a visibly turned on reaction from her.
My own mother also had a lot of issues with these people. She was regarded as a traitor and a horrible person because she chose family over becoming a doctor.
Funny thing with these feminists. Anything you do sexually is acceptable, no matter how deviant, depraved, or risky. It’s more than acceptable. It makes you a brave woman who is strong because she’s brave enough to challenge society’s norms.
There’s only one exception: Whatever you do, don’t have a baby.
I would not join this site ,even if they paid me. Well it depends how much and for how long but other then that NO WAY
Feminists have manish brains..I remember there was some new drug I believe it was in Austrailia that resulted in almost all the girls becoming tomboys. During development of the fetus there is a key point whether it is given a shot of testosterone by the mother that masculinizes the brain..and it looks like that may be whats happening in tomboys and lesbians. Could it be that feminism isn’t a shit test…its really an AMOG?
I don’t know about that. Their brains seem to always be SWIMMING in emotion. A “mannish” brain would use logic and reason. It’s just something the few women, let alone feminists, have.
There are plenty of men who aren’t logical either. Check out the description of how the lesbians got back into the feminist movement after being excluded.. In the section Second Congress to Unite Women http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavender_Menace
“There are plenty of men who aren’t logical either.”
Of course they’re logical. They just either refuse to use it. Men sometimes stupidly don’t use it. Most women are INCAPABLE of it.
Hahahaha! Who says they ever really even left? They were “in the closet” to provide cover for the actual agenda which was to “flip” weak willed straight women into lesbianism and to sell a story to straight women that they could “double dip” (earn as much as a man, but still marry a guy who earns more than her.) This very paradigm of most straight women feminists, that they could both earn the same as a man but marry men who earned more than them, shows how illogical women are.
If feminism had been more open about their man-hating and lesbian aimed philosophy, most straight women would have rejected it. They appealed to straight women’s greed that they could get voting rights and more money without losing their preferred chivalrous protective status. In addition, the lesbians going into hiding (in plain sight) helped to sucker many men in including marxists and misguided MRA’s.
Hate to say it, but Christina Hendricks is a fat pig. I don’t know why guys seem to love her.
Fun fact: The vast majority of humanity do not truly want equality.
Underachieving people only want equality as to improve their own standing. Achievers who want equality (usually academic types) don’t realize just how much they stand to lose until it’s actually enforced. Take away those groups, and the number of real equalists dwindles to a few fringe nutcases.
‘Equality’ doesn’t exist now…never has, never will…
What women want, is much more fluid that what men want. It essentially boils down to them wanting whatever those they currently perceive as their alpha wants. While who they perceive as alpha, is largely dependent on the behavior of others around them.
So, as long as all those around them, including most “men” defer to “men on TV” who claim feminism, democracy, women’s suffrage and all manners of other nonsense are good, that is what women will want.
After all, the whole purpose of giving women the vote was that while men (pre pervasive publicly funded indoctrination at least) instinctively view someone in power as a threat and challenger; wiomen view him as a “great leader”, and and alpha. Hence back him up. Women therefore serve to maintain the status quo as far as power is concerned; and are hence very valuable tools for those who at any given time happen to be in charge. Which, of course, gives those in power more leeway to be ever scummier, until the whole deck of cards come falling down; and things are once again restored to something resembling sanity.
Frankly I have no idea how this “Women are more fulfilled by working as a cubicle drone than by staying at home and raising their children” meme got started in the 60s. The whole thing is such bullshit, and patently untrue.
I have a lot of married female cousins. EVERY LAST ONE whose husband makes enough dough is a housewife by choice. EVERY LAST ONE. The others bitch about having to work, saying they’d rather be at home.
I have a female friend who is now partner in a law firm. She says she’d rather stay at home with her two children. She chooses not to, though, because her husband doesn’t make even 1/5 the coin she does. (I’m pretty sure she cheats on him too — women just can’t respect a man they can’t look up to.)
Many women reject the label of feminist yet they’re happy to reap its benefits and privileges. These types of women, like most others dislike complex men because we see through their BS, they prefer the simple types of men like alpha chimps and beta providers that do as they’re told.
Great write up, and a hell of a sight more realistic than last weeks “Give up, you can’t win” article.
In the end, you can fight biology, but you’re going to lose.
This website is written by scared and angry men. The same sorts of things were said when the slavery of black people was abolished. History will move on from your views and people will be shocked and laugh at the things you say.
Wow. You have all been burned so badly in your lives. I feel so bad for you. 🙁
Assuming you aren’t a troll…
Somehow… Maria I think you’re being insincere with that sentiment. When someone tells me: “I hate to tell you you’re wrong, but…”, almost always they are HAPPY to tell me I’m wrong.
That said, feminism was supposedly proposed due to women being hurt and oppressed by the patriarchy and these angry women were trying to make things right and equal. What is obvious now is that when men complain about sexism and they giggle and say: “You’re so hurt, poor boy. You’re not a real man! You cry like a helpless woman! Only women can cry that they’re helpless victims who need the patriarchy to hold their hands to be equal!”
In other words, the very paradigm of feminist oppression at the hands of the patriarchy and seeking to be equal to men is laughably paradoxical. It was a movement of bourgeois white women who had spare time to gripe about how oppressed they were. Truly oppressed people were and are too busy earning a living to whine about the state not handing them goodies as oppression.
All that said, as the author says, feminism has hurt women in the long run as much as men (and children) as the supply of breadwinning 1950’s style men has dried up and living standards have plummeted. For many women, getting a middle class lifestyle with a nice home and long vacations is now something that they have to struggle to achieve while in the 50’s, it was almost the norm. Feminism claimed that strong women would be contributors to society and free men from sexist roles while instead, professional women just turned out to be materialistic and helpless in a different way. On the other hand, men deliver. Sure, not all men are great and many women have suffered under the patriarchy but in the end, most women were better off with strong men than vice versa. Return of the Kings is about making women into queens rather than corporate drones.
After decades of debate and studying feminism, I have long found that what makes American women nasty and mean isn’t the feminist paradigm that they’re angry they don’t have equality yet but rather, as Rush Limbaugh likes to put it, their anger that they are not enjoying conventional feminine chivalrous entitlement. I have never seen a pretty woman who has married an alpha male who earns good money and has provided her a house ever rag on about feminism. Ever. There’s a reason why feminists are offended by the hairy legged ugly feminist stereotype: It’s largely true. These women aren’t really angry at the patriarchy but rather at other women and their jealousy but since they can’t admit this directly, they take it out on the beta males. This is why they were in love with Bill Clinton. When he banged a fat intern and was married to a cold, hard harpie, it gave them all hope they could be relevant again.
Feminism was almost entirely run by marxist dupes such as Hillary Clinton or bull lesbians looking for “fresh meat.” As relations between the sexes soured due to higher incomes for women and fewer breadwinning men for women to marry, it made them happy because it meant that normal, weak willed women would be easier to control and even “flip” to lesbianism. American women have a reputation worldwide for being unattractive and angry because they are dissatisfied with being an “equal” to men. For a brief period of time in the late 80’s, spinster professional women bought their own diamonds but it became a joke. Other women observed that if they bought their own diamonds, it was a sign that they weren’t good enough looking to get men to buy them for her and diamond prices plummeted during the early 90’s.
What an ignorant, offensive, badly written article.
Do you, person who wrote this, know what a stereotype is? What a generalisation is? What an over-simplification is? Cos this article is full of them.
I’m not a huge fan of feminism, especially the third wave kind, but for God’s sake, you’ve got to do a bit of research and know your enemy. Read about what feminism actually SAYS. It’s a complete waste of time to create strawmen caricatures of it.
No. 1. Some women have rape fantasies. This is true. So what? If someone has a sexual fantasy of being dominated, it doesn’t follow that they want to be dominated politically, or in the rest of their lives.
No. 2. Feminism would say that this is due to something they loosely call patriarchy, I would put it at the hands of the advertising industry that present a certain (stereotyped) image of women, and men. Of course lots of people want to live up to it. But this is a problem, it leads to lots of people having eating disorders and thinking that they’re not good enough. The fact that standards of feminine beauty have changed over the years is proof, if any were needed, that the current western ideal is not innate. Look at Ruben’s women, for instance. Personally, I like a fat bird, or at least nicely plump. Have you ever had sex with a really skinny, boney girl? It’s not that great.
3. Is what we call the naturalistic fallacy. Some women like staying home and looking after kids. That doesn’t mean that all women do. Some things occur in nature. That doesn’t mean that those things are necessarily good. Also, to equate our thoroughly unnatural economic and social system with natural imperatives is ludicrous. There is nothing natural about the whole panoply of capitalism, it’s about as divorced from our hunter-gatherer origins as you can get.
Get it through your heads, there are different types of feminism. I don’t like this third-wave, post-feminist type any more than you do. But for God’s sake, if you want to fight it, you’re gonna have to do better than stereotypes, gender essentialism, the naturalistic fallacy, or some kind of creepy politically reactionary ideology.
Lastly, “be happy with their husbands, raising their kids and keeping a happy and loving home”. Sounds utterly boring to me, utterly bourgeois, utterly reactionary. Is that what you guys really want, to live as some Victorian patriarch with a white picket fence and a baby machine?
Good luck to you then, because that’s not what I want, and I’m a MAN.
This was one of the most truthful and accurate Articles I’ve read to date BUT, it is too late. In every arena of Careers and Professions women are either ahead of males or closing in on them and so where the money settles, therein lies the power and control, which is why males are opting out of courting, committing, and Caring to have a relationship with such a picky check-list narcissistic gender that they are today. What goes around comes around
Sharing with everyone, my Response to BOB:
After reading more of the messages on up the page or prior to yours, which I didn’t totally indulge in yesterday {as I was overly tired actually exhausted along with a hard working PRIVATE SECTOR buddy of mine BOTH losing our shirts = financial, emotional, cognitive, children for the most part, yet can’t break the spirit and ALL due to Feminists Libs or whatever one wishes to call pure cruel narcissistic Evil personified Bob}, I now read that you are 1. a family man but 2. see that the one “guest” to me isn’t “behaving like a feminist” which is what I zeroed in on. He says he is not interested in having a child because he views feminist women Harshly! Well I 100% agree with U w.r.t. 1. coming from an incredible lineage of family is everything next to Godliness as one of the first family pioneer families in the 1700s of Upper Canada comprised of prominent political figures over 3 centuries with the last dying a few years ago and this is only on father’s side; however Bob (my Dad’s name too), w.r.t. 2. the “guest’s” harshness towards these so called ladies, based on hundreds of thousands of people from rich to poor I’ve met here & around the globe I’m convinced via ‘Empirical Evidence’ that the most destructive ultra-changing Socio-Economic force in recent decades of Western Culture also now spreading into Eastern Culture is “Feminism or Women’s Liberation”. Bob, I could soundly validate this statement by listing the profound Effects of self-everything suffixes annexed to Feminist Ideology which would be very time consuming so suffice to say, for males still married with their children please be careful targeting single men or fathers who are frustrated to the point of incredible fear of these and I say it > government catered to-spoiled rotten-given choices at every turn-egocentric-ME FIRST-picky check listed-arrogance beyond-materialistic consumer oriented i.e. TRAVEL > WITCHES. And that hyphenated string is the tip of the iceberg. The silver platter handed to them came from highly educated parliamentarians who likely haven’t done a hard days work (i.e. Pierre Trudeau only rowing a canoe). “Androgynous” meaning viewing their own mothers with a complex confusion conclusion wondering, am I a man or a woman? Having attended 3 Universities and 2 Colleges back when, dated many a female, also rubbed shoulders with many down to earth blue collar and business Private Sector males there is no doubt that these so called well educated male theorists of the 60s-70s stared the ball rolling via the Political spectra implementing into for instance the Charter of Rights LAWS against Traditional families and I say God’s Natural Laws. I’ll end with this > inside most women they do NOT agree or want feminist Ideologies yet many younger women declare themselves as such only because they see Power in getting what they want from the mothers by saying, “well, I am a feminist too” when they are not pragmatically speaking. They want their cake and eat it too Bob which is farrrrrrrrrrrr from “Equality, the lying mantra these self-indulged females. Currently, 5 decades later at Women’s conferences an astounding number admit to being either lesbians or bi-sexual which reveals an aspect of feminism they now expect ALL of us out here to bend once again accepting this to be normal thus Gay Marriage?! There is no end to their wrath against Natural :Law, our Creator, Traditional men AND WOMEN too. As I type some young women have had enough !!! of them thank goodness. Funny, when they speak out against their own feminist gender it has a stronger effect than if the real targeted gender being males, speak out against Feminists like the “guest” above Bob. So when another male goes against a male speaking out this I see as “destructive” and the men that tend to do and they are few and far between are happily married men and fathers. I hope this elaborated enough without me having to share the lengthy list of the effects of Feminism on our western culture. Oh one last thing; note that feminist women within this site, when taken on will either give a brief statement with little substance ending with a “lol” OR, they will go on and on spewing their Liberal jargon siting sort of “to each their own” OR personally attack the messenger so all in all, they purposely AVOID the substantial effects caused by Feminist Ideology because they reaped the Socio-FINANCIAL benefits of this Ideology pushed on all of us by this Special Interest group who lobbied for change over 6 decades and STILL keep it up until not “Equality” but Takeover is complete both Inside the home and outside the home. Women Studies altered to Gender Studies on campuses is a subtle way of THEM the “NOW Gang” trying to keep afloat amidst some of their Granddaughters and most ethnic women FINALLY not wanting much to do with the Caucasian feminist mothers. It is a trick trying to lure men in to indoctrinate them and well, I read that certain Universities are now pushing for “Male Studies” to counteract the poisonous Women Studies that has breed too many narcissistic male hating females. What a waste of money whether it be parents, students’ or tax payers; meanwhile, we cannot get enough of our won people to work in Primary Industries, Trades and other blue collar jobs that pay well yet in contrast, both USA and Canada indulge in the hiring so many TAX payer Paid female civil servants having fewer children yet higher divorce rates …. when “what do you do for a living” is asked by feminists to women “and the answer is” {Who Wants To Be A Millionaire Show”) > “oh, I am a housewife with a wonderful husband and ? children” whereupon the feminist thinks or may reply “oh is that all you do?” … these feminists personally attack MY MOTHER and FATHER who raised 5 children and had separate roles where as happy in everyway possible. So, better that you Career oriented no children or maybe 1 or 2 yet you divorced your husband bringing in anther lonely father’s Income as a dam “step-Dad” not giving a DAM what the children want > Feminists!
To ENGLISHBOB et ALL: sorry I haven’t properly responded yet to your last reply Bob
but I will this weekend meanwhile BTW, that Van Dyke saying was from “Mary Poppin’s” and was “Bob’s my Uncle” LOL too funny! We all need to LAUGH more … we forget how wonderful it was to be a child even for a few years wayyyyy back when & then > my heroes were “Super Man”, “Lone Ranger” {reruns}, “The Rifleman”, and most of all “Hoss, Ben, Little Joe, and Adam CARTWRIGHT”. For decades now male role models in all of Pop culture from TV, Movies to especially Music have vanished, and it is done purposely to appease the rising stars of “Women Power” while males are depicted as wimps, gay, UFC so called men beating up on each other hence, NO decent MORALISTIC role models for boys, teenagers, young adults ALL eventually and supposedly aspiring to be (what is the outcast word again) > fathers? Yes FATHERS who were created to protect, teach, be HEROES to their children and NOT merely the fashionable word we here constantly catered to as my own mother predicted would happen as she watched Oprah back in the 80s, MOTHERS _ and “women”.
Bravo. Tout à fait d’accord.(I totaly agree). Look at Canada, sweden, germany these countries became feministan countries. Women look like men. Very hard to get hard there. Without discussing about political and juridical system which concider a woman like a victime because she is a woman. And blame automatically the man because he is by definition bad and violent,.
Quelle idéologie de merde!!!
Hello, I need little smart help. I am in the war with some feminism man and feminism women. I need examples of masculinity. But I need that examples from authority from History Psihology Anthropology etc. I need more smart ammo against dirty mouth. Thank you in advance. Sorry for my english.
Thanks for the post. hope to see more in the future.
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