It’s a pretty common theme around ROK that when the going gets tough: the women start quitting. Many of the writers here—perhaps myself more than others—try to hammer home the point that doing your due diligence means everything when considering any sort of romantic relationships with the opposite sex.
You are not allowed to feel excitement, you are not allowed to feel comfortable, and you’re certainly not allowed to feel love. The second you start to feel those things for a woman—or even worse, express those emotions to her at the wrong time—then it’s going to be over before you know it.
A man’s approach to dating in the present-day climate must be very logical and clinical. Any sort of emotions that one can drum up for a woman must be kept at bay, and only released in small measured doses once certain benchmarks have been met by the woman in question.
Searching for loyalty
If you do happen to stumble upon one that deserves a little more attention beyond a good hard dicking, then one of the benchmarks you’re going to be looking for is loyalty. Loyalty is tough—trust me, I know. I did it for five years with a woman throughout my late teens and early twenties, and I had plenty of opportunities to throw down some pecker on a few willing broads. However, when it was all said and done, it wasn’t me that checked out of the relationship and went astray.
I was cheated on while working the first flying job that routinely kept me away from home. My ex made the assumption that I was cheating on her all the time while I was off working, which couldn’t have been further from the truth. She also strongly discouraged me from pursuing a career as a pilot in the first place.
I, of course, was of the opinion that she could go fuck herself if she thought that she was going to crush my dreams and aspirations—dreams and aspirations that, had she not screwed up, would have paid off for her in a major way in the long run. I also wouldn’t bend to her demands that I “put a ring on it,” considering how broke and unready we were for that at the time.
The takeaway from that relationship and the consequent suffering I endured was that I wasn’t discerning with my choice in a partner. I was more of an idealist than a realist. I’ve always had natural charisma, wit, humor and game—those are the only reasons I managed to keep her around for so long.
It wasn’t her fault that she cheated on me—it was my fault for getting wrapped up with a low-life piece of shit in the first place. I thought I was special: I’m not, and neither are you.
Now, the question is: Where are the loyal women? Where can a decent man find a woman that can meet the reasonable standard of playing with his cock, and his cock alone? Are they abroad? Are there pockets of them hiding somewhere in America? Perhaps the answer lies in a country where none of us can visit to find out.
The Democratic People’s Republic Of Korea
When the majority of us think of North Korea, we probably think of shitty haircuts, famines, nuclear weapons programs, and parades showcasing antiquated military equipment being filmed on 30-year-old camcorders. But there’s a whole culture there that extends beyond just the typical stuff that our media wants us to see. So, if we dig a little bit, we can learn quite a bit about the place.
As I’m sure most readers are aware, the North Korean government structure is communist and ruled in a totalitarian fashion by the Kim Dynasty. If there’s one place on earth that most closely reflects the premise of Orwell’s 1984—it’s North Korea. It wouldn’t be the least bit surprising to learn that Kim Il-Sung read the book at some point in his life, and did not consume it as the stroll down dystopia lane it was intended to be, but more as a manual or handbook on how to rule and build a nation.
Religion is strictly outlawed throughout the country, with Christians being at the top of the Kim’s shit-list. However, Confucianism is very important to the culture of North Korea, and to the entire region in general. Kim Il-Sung’s Juche Ideology, which is taught to all school children and reinforced throughout one’s entire life, derives many of its tenets from Confucianism and is a fundamental part of North Korea’s brainwashing propaganda.
What is of primary importance for the purposes of this article are the Confucian principles circling around the family structure. Here’s an excerpt from the Wikipedia article on the subject, just to give the unitiated a little background:
Social harmony results in part from every individual knowing his or her place in the natural order, and playing his or her part well. When Duke Jing of Qi asked about government, by which he meant proper administration so as to bring social harmony, Confucius replied:
There is government, when the prince is prince, and the minister is minister; when the father is father, and the son is son. (Analects XII, 11, trans. Legge)
Particular duties arise from one’s particular situation in relation to others. The individual stands simultaneously in several different relationships with different people: as a junior in relation to parents and elders, and as a senior in relation to younger siblings, students, and others. While juniors are considered in Confucianism to owe their seniors reverence, seniors also have duties of benevolence and concern toward juniors. The same is true with the husband and wife relationship where the husband needs to show benevolence towards his wife and the wife needs to respect the husband in return. This theme of mutuality still exists in East Asian cultures even to this day.
Unlike the Cultural Marxists of the West, the true Marxists of North Korea hold firm to traditional values. It’s simply embedded into the culture, and it’s not going anywhere—regardless of who’s in charge.
It’s illegal in North Korea for men and women to co-habitate prior to marriage, and there is little to no concept of dating there. Many marriages are set up through agencies—this is to help single men and women find mates in their respective social class (there are three primary songbun classes, and roughly 50 subsets of those classes).
If a woman marries a man of lesser social standing than herself, then she will have to assume his lower status in the hierarchy—and we all know women ain’t gonna to let that shit happen.
Divorces are difficult to obtain. “I’m not happy” is not an acceptable reason for divorce in the DPRK. Valid reasons include infertility and adultery, and even under those circumstances, one’s reputation could be tarnished and their advancement opportunities hindered in other aspects of life should they choose to divorce.
The divorce process is also very time consuming (often lasting for years), with the desired result not always coming to fruition—even with legitimate reasons like those listed above.
Military conscription, which is compulsory for all men and selective women, lasts for a period of 10 years in the Korean People’s Army and up to five years in the other branches. Romantic relationships are forbidden for soldiers during their military service—including marriage.
Most guys don’t even get laid for the first time until they’re in their mid-twenties, and that’s with their wives.The government controls all aspects of its citizens’ lives. Family values are not something that is just glossed over in North Korea—it’s shoved down their throats from the time they’re old enough to comprehend it. This makes the next data point all the more interesting.
The Defectors
South Korea provides asylum to any and all DPRK defectors. It’s impossible for a defector to cross the Korean Demilitarized Zone at the north-south border, so defectors cross over the Yalu river and into China. The normal route is to travel southwest through China, down through Laos, and into Thailand where defectors then seek asylum at the South Korean embassy in Bangkok. Another route is to go through Mongolia, though this is less common.
The South Korean government provides its new citizens with training on how to succeed and adapt to their new lives. They provide them with any necessary medical care and fix their teeth. They then train them on the basics of living in a capitalist society—teaching them how to open bank accounts, how to drive a car, and how to run errands etc.
Newcomers are then provided with an apartment and spending cash to get their new lives started. From start to finish the process that lasts for roughly six months, and an investment in the mid five-figures is expended by the South Korean government.
South Korea keeps records of all defectors from the North, and, as it stands now, of the roughly 30,000 that have made the journey, seventy percent of them are women. There are estimates that North Koreans numbering in the hundreds of thousands are living illegally in China as well. What’s the sex of the overwhelming majority of those illegals, with estimates ranging between seventy-five to ninety percent? You guessed it: women.
Why is this important? Well, this where things get a bit ugly.
Punishment By Lineage
The DPRK has a system known as yeonjwaje, or three generations of punishment. This means that when a crime is committed, especially one political in nature, the perpetrator isn’t the only one to be punished—the family must atone for the sins of the wrongdoer as well.
For example, if I was to commit what is classified as a political crime in North Korea—such as owning a Bible, possessing DVDs of American films, or even tuning into a South Korean radio station—then my grandparents, parents, and siblings would also be punished for my conduct.
And what does that punishment consist of? Well, like any good Stalinist regime, North Korea has a system of kyohwaso (re-education camps) and kwaliso (political prisons). The kyohwaso system for re-education focuses on reforming recidivists that the state deems remediable. Prisoners sent through the kyohwaso system are generally released after a few years of thorough re-education through labor, showing some love to the Supreme Leader, and taking a few good ass-kickings along the way just for good measure.
The kwaliso concentration camps for political prisoners are a different animal. These camps fall into one of two categories: total control zones for the actual offenders, and revolutionary zones for the families of the offenders. Camps like kwaliso No. 14 Internment Camp at Kaechon, or No. 22 at Hoeryong, are examples of total control zones. Kwaliso No. 18 at Pukchang would be an example of a revolutionary zone camp. The difference between the two styles of kwaliso boils down to who controls the camps and the eligibility of release.
The typical prison system of North Korea operates the revolutionary zone camps, and they tend to be a little more lenient (that’s not saying much), prisoners may also be released from the revolutionary zones after time served (or not, depending on circumstances). The total control zone camps, however, are ran by the regimes secret police force: the Bowibu.
These camps are completely isolated from the outside world, and the Bowibu guards of the total control zone camps are trained that inmates are enemies of the state, and, therefore, no longer human beings. The guards are given full authority to beat, torture, and execute inmates for any reason they see fit. The typical life of a prisoner in one these camps consists of periodic torture, routine beatings, systematic starvation, and seven day workweeks lasting 16 hours a day in one of the camps’ factories, mines, or agriculture fields.
Sketches from inmates who were able to escape.
Prisoners are never released from total control zone camps: they are worked to death, starved to death, or die from a myriad of diseases. Political prisoners also make up the majority of the workforce used to build the regime’s underground nuclear research and development facilities—they’re the perfect candidates, seeing that dead people can’t share secrets.
When one defects from North Korea: they are considered a traitor and their crime is political in nature. So guess who gets to carry the burden for those who choose to leave the country? The remaining family members is the answer.
Life in North Korea is not easy: it’s a total shithole, and no one would ever dispute that fact. But one can’t help but notice that—by an overwhelming amount—it’s women who make the decision to jump ship and leave the country. It’s women, at a rate of three or four to one, who are leaving their families vulnerable to perish in the world’s shittiest of circumstances.
These women cannot claim ignorance either: everyone in North Korea is at least aware of the existence of the internment camps, and they are certainly aware of yeonjwaje. Citizens refer to those sent to the camps as, “The people who are sent to the mountains,” so these women know what lies in store for their families when they make the decision to cross the Yalu and into China.
A Man’s Domain
This is where the loyalty of men shines through and shows that we are the true vanguards of virtue. I love my father. I’m very close to him and our relationship has transcended past that of a father son-relationship and into one of deep friendship. During a recent conversation I even joked with him, “Pop, couldn’t you have at least gotten drunk and beat the shit out of me a couple times when I was a kid, or at least told me that I would never amount to anything?”
We both laughed, but in a strange way, I was being somewhat serious. He’s always been there for me. He’s been so good to me, to my mother, and to our entire family that I almost wish he was a worse father, because it’s going to completely devastate me when he dies.
If I knew that my actions would somehow result in my father being beaten, tortured, and worked to death like a fucking rented mule; that he and my mother would be buried in a mass, unmarked grave on the side of a mountain along with all of the other “unpersons”; that their lives would be less valuable than that of a farm animal—then I would never be able live with myself.
Being hungry and on the precipice of death due to starvation would be terrible, and that is a harsh reality for many North Korean citizens outside of Pyongyang. However, would eating a hot bowl of kimchi in a perfectly air conditioned Seoul restaurant taste very good knowing that your relatives were taking beatings and eating raw rats to stave off pellagra just a few hundred miles north?
And worse yet, they’re in that situation all because of you? Would a full stomach be worth it? Would you leave all of your loved ones behind to rot just to save your own fucking skin? Regardless of how close you are to your family, could you, as a man, live with yourself?
It would seem that women are be able to answer “yes” to those question with much more ease. Not through words, of course. Women say shit that sounds good all the time—they can talk a good game with the best of them. However, if it really came down to it and the chips were down; when words meant nothing and actions meant everything, would a woman really be there in the end?
Could you count on a woman to fall on her sword for honor, for family, and for love? Could you count on a woman to be there for you, and only you? I certainly wouldn’t bet my life on it. Hell, I can’t even find a woman who knows how to fucking cook, never mind all of that other shit like honor.
It probably comes as little surprise that the male defectors suffer from depression in greater numbers and have a much more difficult time adjusting to their new lives in the South when compared to their female counterparts. It makes sense: they carry guilt, shame, and worry. Women are able to cope with their decisions much better than men.
In other words, women have the ability convince themselves that their own selfish decisions were the right move to make. A man cannot hide from the truth, it’s always there and he’s always aware of its presence. A man’s conscience can and will eat him alive—there can be no solace for the man who betrays his own.
In Closing
One can’t help but notice that the percentage of female North Korean defectors and the percentage of divorces being filed by women in America is roughly the same number: seventy percent. Granted, some women in both situations will have legitimate reasons for doing what they do (the Koreans more so, certainly).
Some of these North Korean women have no families, perhaps they were orphaned or lost their loved ones to famine; or they were even encouraged by the men in their families to pursue a better life, even if that meant certain death for those men. They had nothing to lose and everything to gain by defecting. Some women in America undoubtedly get divorced for legitimate reasons as well, and no one would ever fault them for that.
But the vast majority of these women are just quitters who are thinking of no one but themselves: everyone else be damned, “I gotta get mine,” and whoever is standing in my way is little more than collateral damage; merely a drop in the old bucket. This is the prevailing attitude, in a nutshell.
When we take into account how conservative North Korean society is; when we take into account that Confucianism is a fundamental part of life there; and when we take into account that loyalty to the system, to the state, and to the family is drilled into the minds of these women perpetually from birth—yet they are the overwhelming majority who say fuck it and hit the road, then I think that’s something we have to consider quite heavily. We are observing female nature in its purest form.
Now, take that female nature and remove all of the traditionalism and replace it with consumerism, selfishness, and girl power—then team that up with the female tendency to always follow the crowd, and it really goes without saying that things around the U.S. start to look pretty fucking scary.
So, are there loyal women out there? Certainly—my mother is a loyal woman, she has been with my father for well over 30 years, and she’s not going anywhere. But the fact of the matter is that finding loyalty in a woman is going to be a very arduous task—especially in this day in age. You’re going to have to search through a thousand spoons to find a knife, there is no other option.
The American woman I dedicated five years of my life to wouldn’t have made it past a brief fuck-buddy arrangement nowadays. But I was forced to learn things the hard way, and I’m a much better man for it. I was a dumbass at the time, and I don’t want other guys to make the same mistake I did.
Many years have passed since that relationship ended, and dozens of women have come and gone since my ex was permanently kicked out of my life. And these other women—save two from abroad—have done nothing more than to reinforce everything I know.
As far as the ones beyond our borders are concerned—they’re better, but only just. You definitely need to be on your toes and know exactly what you’re looking for when you’re out there searching. The lesson to be learned is this: you can only trust the average woman about as far as you can throw her, and considering how fucking fat the average woman is nowadays—that’s not very God damn far.
Gentlemen, we can always count on women to be women—we must accept that and live with it. However, while women will always be women: men can always be men, too. In his memoir, The Aquariums of Pyongyang, DPRK defector Kang Chol-hwon—who, thanks to his grandmother, spent 10 years in revolutionary zone camp No. 15 at Yodok, and was imprisoned there starting from the age of nine—made the following observation about a particular inmate at the camp:
Yet love endured, in spite of everything. It even had its heroes, like the thirty-year-old fellow who arrived at the camp in 1986. He was a good-looking man, and well built, too. According to numbers floating around camp, he had been intimate with at least twenty-eight different women. Success came in spite of, or maybe because of, his reputation as a Don Juan. His pleasure did come at a price, however, for his conquests cost him three trips to the sweatbox, each lasting three months. No prisoner had ever survived so many repeated stints, but he got out safe and sound every time, on his feet and able to walk without help, as though nothing much had happened. We called him the man of steel. His hardiness and sexual prowess made him one of Yodok’s most celebrated and honored prisoners. Even the security agents were impressed and treated him with a certain deference.
Be the man of steel.
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Interesting article, but I disagree. I’d rather not live in a society where the only thing forcing a woman to stay with me is the state’s monopoly on the use of force.
Governments should be kept out of every aspect of our private lives. You shouldn’t have to rely on the government to keep your lady loyal to you if you can’t do it yourself.
If she cheats, move the f*** on. It makes you a better man when you focus your priorities on self-development, accumulation of wealth and knowledge instead of women. Don’t chase them, attract them.
Basically you want to be the individualistic “man alone on his own.” Great for you, sucks for the continuity of society.
Actually I don’t want to be alone on my own. I want to thrive on my own.
And is there something wrong with individualism? The greatest pioneers and inventors were individualistic. The family unit of the 1900s lived on their own, growing their own food on farms and didn’t rely on the government to monitor and control every aspect of their lives.
The sole purpose of government is to protect individual rights and freedoms, provide education and healthcare. That’s all.
as soon as you ask government to do anything but maybe act as an intermediate between dispute settlement between two or more parties then they become monolithic and tyranny is born. Asking government to be involved in education and healthcare just about sums up everything that is fundamentally wrong with the West!
“I want to thrive on my own.” Well said.
Society is continuing on just fine. In fact too fine. There are more whites today in the world than there were yesterday, and the day before. Trouble is, there are way, way more [insert every other race, except Japanese, who are also educated] drowning us out.
So there goes your argument.
As for the “individualistic” (uh, why not just say, “You want to be an INDIVIDUAL?”) man on his own remark . . . please explain to me how that is a bad thing. White men create and the rest of the world follows, that’s just how it is. A man who isn’t an individual won’t create something unique. So go on, explain to me how being uncreative helps society.
#DoubleSlamDunk.
Retards can be individualistic. “Individualistic” is an attributive modifying “man”, “individual” is a noun that is less precise.
And humans are social animals for a reason, because it works.
It’s like Archimedes, brilliant individual, created many great innovative weapons for Syracuse.
To no avail, the disciple and fascism of the Roman army lead to Archimedes being put to the sword by a pissed off Roman soldier. His last words were:
“μὴ μοῦ τοὺς κύκλους τάραττε”
“Do NOT disturb my circles!”
Then again, the soldier acted against orders. I guess he was being individualistic too.
It’s what you don’t say that counts. And what you didn’t say was anything to do with the fact that whites are procreating (i.e. multiplying). Actually, I don’t know if you even know what you’re on about at this stage.
“Retards can be individualistic. ”
Without individualistic individuals, humanity would cease.
Keep placing your blind faith in the moral government and trust them to solve your every problem. You probably think governments create wealth, correct?
You understand you just gave him the male version of “Man up and wife up that whore.”
I don’t let trash pile up in my house, why would I let trash pile up in my relationships?
That whore had no desire to “woman up”, therefore the reverse is also true.
Funny how the universe works sometimes!
I look at it from an apocalypic scenario. I can hunt, build shelter, and tend for myself. If a woman wishes to enjoy my company and the perks related to it, then she had best be able to bring a skill set that I cannot match. Having a vagina is not a skill set.
Especially when it’s been used and abused repeatedly by every single race/religion/sex under The Sun. Why would I put gas in a car that’s already been wrecked?
“Man up” simply incognito means “Help her split her bills while she parties and whores around behind your back”. Yeah, straight to Hell, you miserable, emotionally skullfucked twats!
Why? Do you hire garbagemen to haul away used skanks?
Their beta orbiters know their role
You have to shake your head and laugh some times. A woman wants you to give up your dream (in this case future career) because she is bored or lonely. The move he made was a good one.
Men –Never let a woman hold you back.
Agree…and that’s how it used to be , before daddy government stepped in.
Or take them in to quell said loneliness while serving as her bill-splitter and absolving her of all of her past transgressions and all the things she imbibed night after night in her 20s (drink, drugs, dick) because you “shouldn’t judge someone by their past”. I would rather take a power drill to my skull, in all honesty.
Fuck that shit, “sucks for society’.
Society will rape you, rob you, give it to some entitled skank , bury you under ten feet of shit and forget you. Men have become disposable providers within society.
I say society can suck my fat dick. I don’t owe it a thing.
That is because American men decided to political disenfranchise themselves for their own individual advantage.
Maybe if you had allies and loyal friends you wouldn’t end up “buried under ten feet of shit and forgotten.”
That’s a load of s***. The political scene in America has disenfranchised men, same in Canada.
You can thank the cultural marxist overlords for that. The ones who criminalize masculinity while simultaneously embracing mediocrity.
It doesn’t suck at all for ‘society’ if every one lives and functions as if he’s ‘on his own’. That ‘You’re on your own’ mentality fueled the first 170 years of American history–the most productive and phenomenal run of progress and efficiency in world history. Too bad it ended with the introduction of the word “Society”. Fuck your society.
It only involved: chattel slavery, wage slavery, violent expansion, and one massive vicious Civil War.
And the word “Society” comes from the Latin “socius, -i adj.- Latin for kindred, allied, partner, confederated…”
And basically what you are saying is in an emergency do-or-die SHTF situation you would be the first person to be distrusted. Not a good place to be.
In normal everyday life: you’re the guy to fuck over before you have a chance to do the fucking over.
Slaves were everywhere back then. Particularly in Africa, as in Africans using Africans. It’s not like we plucked a bunch of 18th century Angolans from their custom made easy chairs as they sipped Mozambiquean single malts. Oh did Kunta get pulled out of his infinity pool, stripped out of his bespoke 3 piece and put in chains? Psshhhawww. The averaged life expectancy in Africa back then was probably 11. They were lucky to come up and work for TJ and the boys. A better life for sure. LUCKY. As for the rest of your sappy, treacly, bleeding, sanctimonious read of history;
You didn’t get it do you? The article wasn’t about the benefits of having the state as your mate guarding buddy, but of the ability of rationalization and utter cruelty of females who would abandon her kin (even knowing their grim fate) just to be “free”, a female trait present even in a very conservative society.
This article was more an argument proving women’s world wide selfish nature. IF, the entire family planned to escape, OR sacrifice themselves so just 1 woman or man from their family could get out alive, there would be much less reason to feel shame. The point is, freedom or not, if I sacrificed my own family to live in a freer country at their peril, it’s the same as me walking down the street in the US, pointing out 2-5 people in a group, believing my life is worth more than theirs all put together and gunning them down, or at minimum injuring them permanantly.
The entendre here is women will become the dictator in their own self appointed regime given any option to do so.. not all, but an enormous percentage.
The author wasn’t encouraging a government structure more one way or the other, he was just stating the facts and the pros and cons of each
Quote—“Interesting article, but I disagree. I’d rather not live in a society
where the only thing forcing a woman to stay with me is the state’s
monopoly on the use of force.”
I never — at any point in the article — made the case for governmental force to facilitate female loyalty. I made the point that loyalty to family is pushed through cultural ideals and traditions — that’s it.
Quote—“Governments should be kept out of every aspect of our private lives. You shouldn’t have to rely on the government to keep your lady loyal to you if you can’t do it yourself.”
No shit.
Quote—“If she cheats, move the f*** on. It makes you a better man when you focus your priorities on self-development, accumulation of wealth and
knowledge instead of women. Don’t chase them, attract them.”
Direct quote from the article:
“The American woman I dedicated five years of my life to wouldn’t have
made it past a brief fuck-buddy arrangement nowadays. But I was forced
to learn things the hard way, and I’m a much better man for it. I was a
dumbass at the time, and I don’t want other guys to make the same
mistake I did. Many years have passed since that relationship ended, and dozens of women have come and gone since my ex was permanently kicked out of my life.”
Perhaps it was the 3,600 word length of the piece that caused a diversion in attention, or perhaps I’m just a shitty writer. I’m not entirely sure. But upon re-reading the article, I can only conclude that you — and those upvoting your comment — didn’t really read the damn thing, and, at best, just skimmed it. That’s completely fine — it’s a failure on my part to maintain the reader’s attention; however, commenting on something that was not thoroughly consumed and understood is not a good look.
Actually I did read it this morning with my coffee before work started. After each sentence, I read it twice to make sure I understood your point.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but your take-home points are as follows:
-Relationships are very traditional and hard to get out of in North Korea
-The state enforces relationships between man and woman
-Punishments are handed down multiple generations of a family
-Women are the overwhelming majority of refugees from North Korea
-Women leave because either: 1) their family helps them leave despite the danger they may bring upon themselves or, 2) they’re selfish and don’t care that happens to their family.
-Even in North Korea, AWALT.
Correct?
You neither condoned or condemned this state-enforced relationship practice in North Korea. You offered a balanced opinion. I offered an opinion which differs yours, and you attacked me for it. Great job!
From the article:
“Life in North Korea is not easy: it’s a total shithole, and no one would ever dispute that fact.”
If that’s not condemnation — then what is?
It’s a given that North Korea is a total shithole. I am talking strictly about the practice of state-enforced relationships.
I said I disagreed with the idea of them while you remained neutral. I did enjoy the article, it was in the upper tier of what I’m used to on here.
“The place is a shithole” is an all encompassing statement. I’m not going to offer commentary after every fact mentioned in the article, this is something you certainly understand.
The promotion of traditionalism is not a bad thing. Not being able to divorce over frivolous bullshit reasons is not a bad thing. Having a military that is focused on killing its enemies, and only killing its enemies — while extreme — is not necessarily a bad thing. However, being sent to a gulag or being forced into fulfilling those ideals through the threat of violence is, very much, a bad thing. And I wouldn’t have gone through the trouble of mentioning how shitty life is in the camps if I thought they were a positive — or that a “forced life” is in any way a path to happiness. Painting the picture of a culture while not stopping every three sentences to say: “And this sucks because of this reason, and that sucks for that reason” is an insult to the readership of this site.
The entire point of the article was that there are repercussions to innocent people for the actions of one individual. Whether that’s moral or not wasn’t the point. Whether governmental force being utilized to maintain tradition is right or wrong wasn’t the point. The point is that’s just the way things are in North Korea. My opinion, condemnation, nor my approval means jack-shit — it’s all happening regardless of what you, or I, think.
Oh don’t get me wrong. I enjoy traditionalism to some degree.
That said, I agree with this analysis.
Your initial comment that spawned this discussion seemed rather disjointed from the topic. It appears as though you interpreted the article as some sort of message about government control where as most other commenters, including myself, interpreted it as a looking at the situation of North Korea and using it as evidence for AWALT regardless of the severity of the consequences. Your comment, obviously not wrong, seems out of place in this context. It appears to imply this as some sort of political article.
I did interpret it was evidence of AWALT or voluntary male disposability. But perhaps I did misinterpret it slightly as an article which condones the North Korean method of policing the family unit.
That said, despite their very traditionalist and anti-western-esque male/female relationships, I only said that I disagree with the use of government policing relationships. That’s all.
Even if divorce is most often initiated by women, even if the divorce is still for a bullshit reason, I’d still rather not live in a world with such an opposite extreme.
He wasn’t addressing them (state enforced relationships). He mentioned them only to describe the situation. He was addressing something totally different.
I don’t see how you would think that an ROK writer would be condoning gov’t policing of families. You’re pretty tone deaf on this one here.
Our own society, at one time, used to condemn, shame, etc.. any bad behavior by women that we see today (in the US at least). Society includes all – even the government. We were not as harsh as North Korea (in the methods) but never the less, women’s behavior was held in check.
Today you see nothing but spoiled and entitled behavior by women. Women know they can divorce for any reason and daddy government will be there for her (the courts will make sure that the man pays).
Take away the government backing (security and money) and shit gets real, really fast.
Agree. I think we all can agree that North Korea is a pretty fucked up place to live. But it does hold citizens accountable (something we used to do here). Today it’s about pandering for dollars and votes.
We’ve lost our way trying to make everything fair and equal.
Precisely. Rather than having governments keep women’s behaviour in check, why not remove the ability of the courts to write blank cheques to them?
Unless there is credible evidence of domestic violence, if a woman initiates a divorce for no reason, then there should be no alimony.
Yes. It is a change that is needed very badly (in western societies). Courts are siding all too often with women and men are starting to get the picture. It will take us to make that change.
You’ll be single forever.
Sounds like you are.
The article is not arguing that anyone should live in such a shitty society. It is arguing that it is women who are disproportionately abandoned their families to be killed in concentration camps.
Just like love the way women view loyalty in relation to anything is completely different compared to men. You can be the best man in the world, the minute she feels you have changed, or she’s getting something from another guy like attention (a simple hello is enough), or she sees something that another woman has that she wants… yeah.
http://i.imgbox.com/rn5eMpcf.jpg
You gotta understand, once you say to yourself, “This is the last woman that I’m ever gonna be with,” that’s like when…you know what that’s like? I’ll tell you what that’s like. That’s like when in Superman 2, when that muhfucka had a choice between losing his powers to be with that ugly Lois Lane. And everybody just goes, “Did you just lose your FUCKING superpowers for this MONSTER?” And then he gets his ass beat at the diner? That is a guy who decides to be faithful for the rest of life. He gave away his superpowers, man.
And a bitch don’t appreciate it. Now, now the bitch don’t like you no more, and she goes, “You’re not—you’re, you’re nothing. I married you because you were Superman.” But bitch, the only way I could be with you was to NOT be Superman. Now you realized you made a mistake. Now you walking through the snow, now you’re walking through Antarctica, trying to find your green crystal, nigga! Trying to look for the Fortress of Solitude, because you realized you’re a fucking idiot, because you gave some bitch all your powers! And that’s what we do! We give a bitch all our powers and then get beat up in a diner by some motherfucker.
Patrice O’Neal
This is quite possibly the best review of that movie ever written.
This thread is humiliating…
See you never see this happening to Bruce Wayne.
Doesn’t he live alone in his mother’s basement?
Hahahahaha
Damn, this Patrice O’Neal fellow, who I never knew about until I heard about him from guys here, was one hell of a smart, perceptive, politically incorrect MFO. I wish he was still around.. although he would be crucified by the feminists and SJWs today for his comedy and gems like the above.
So he puts on a mask and beats criminals to a pulp with bear hands night after night. And you are trying to insult this man?
Don’t worry about your powers, you still have us!
He’s is a bitter loser who can’t get laid. Batman has a small penis.
http://i.imgbox.com/8Xt0ERaG.jpg
I there any doubt that a woman is nothing more than a high-functioning sociopath? Hell… most are not even high-functioning. Truth be told, however, trust is a fool’s emotion. As I always say, in the end we stand alone. Your friends, family, and allies are all gone, but the worst of all? The woman was the first to go.
I can objectively claim likewise on Englishwomen who slept with the Vikings, centuries before The Crusades.
And once invaders leave, women claimed to have been raped. Look at Berlin post WWII. Supposedly so many rapes, but it was just German women consensually having sex with the Russians, while their husbands were dead or dying for their country.
LOL.. you Sir, are an idiot
Yes I am, because, hey, women never lie about rape. Listen and believe.
Yeah.. let’s keep the sarcasm down for a minute, this isn’t buzzfeed. Of course modern women do lie about rape and falsely accuse men of it all the time. Not denying that a bit! But to say, that the probably millions of rapes that happend in Berlin from 1945 to the early 50ths commited by Russians actually were just German women consensually having sex with them isn’t just a bold statement, it’s pretty stupid and narrow minded. This accusation of them consensually having sex with invaders might apply to a great deal of romances with American soldiers, but the Russians were beasts that raped everything that had a hole, from little girls under 10 to old women above 60. There is plenty of evidence about that, which wasn’t made up by those women. My own Great Grandfather told me how his two sisters were raped by Russian savages (no hard feelings) I happen to be German and study history at Humboldt University in Berlin.
Yep, women only lie about rape outside of Germany and of all the wars in history it was only WW II in Berlin where women didn’t do this. I was a university student in America, so do I get to say that the British were beasts and raped our poor American women???? The fact is, women at any point in history have used rape to cover up being exposed as a slut. I’m not saying 100% of women in Berlin did this, but I guarantee you it happened a lot just like it has in most wars.
Your an intellectual impotent. The mass rape of Germany with inferior genetics was one of the prime motivations of the war.
Yes, and you seem quite the genius. Those evil commies spreading their dirty Slavic blood to the superior Nordics. I see you are such the genius that you skipped 3rd grade history. There was no motivation for Soviets to enter the war until Germany declared war on them.
You have to possess a special type of ignorance to believe that most of the rape during that period was consensual. It takes so much denial and lack of common sense to achieve that “truth” that your so convinced of that I can’t even start to fathom how you convinced yourself of this.
It doesn’t matter how much you hate women or think they are despicable; the fact is raping of women during war time is a very common phenomenon.
Never said rape during war wasn’t common. You have to possess a special kind of ignorance and lack of common sense to believe that when a large number of women, whose husbands are at war or dead, aren’t going to claimed to have been raped after having consensual relations with the enemy to avoid negative judgement. It’s something women do. I don’t hate women.
The difference between what you said and what EVERYONE else said is that everyone is going off FACTS from recorded history that support our stance.
Your theory on the other hand relies on the belief that a large number women whose husbands are dead or are in war are so horney that they will jump in bed with enemy soldiers passing through town who are probably responsible for the murder of their loved ones. Get real!
Again we have FACTS to back up our notion that women were raped by the Soviets during WWII. If you have any “facts” regarding your theory please feel free to share. Not only will you impress us but you will also be praised by historians who will hold you in high regard for uncovering a piece of history that has alluded thousands of expert historians for the last few generations. Apparently, your the only human being since WWII who has the intellect and wisdom to discover this fascinating new “fact.”
You should take a dose of your own medicine. Because you say so doesnt make it fact. And yes, everyone responding to me is speaking historical truth like the moron who thinks the USSR declared war on Germany.
There are documented facts and congressional reports of false allegations made by German women against American soldiers. But seeing as how you know what every factual account of WWII says, you should know this.
“The women were so horney (it’s spelled horny)” statement shows your projection and your complete ignorance of female psychology.
To think that women don’t and wouldn’t lie about rape for a multitude of reasons shows your ignorance and your tendancy towards being a mangina. We have tons if historical evidence that women have lied about rape for the most mundane reasons. When a large number of women claim to have been raped, some portion of those accusations will be patently false.
Ahh yes correcting grammar, the ultimate sign of someone who has no actual proof. Because spelling errors equate to lack of knowledge regarding psychology…..got it! Your ability to draw reaching conclusions never cease to amaze!!
Your typing a lot in your post and not saying much. You didn’t directly respond to anything I said besides stating “just because I say its a fact doesn’t make it so.” Where is your proof regarding your great theory of “a lot of women lie during wartime about rape?” Oh yeah I forgot that you have absolutely zero proof because deep down you realize how ridiculous you sound.
Nobody denied that women lie about being raped but I think everyone can unanimously agree that your quote of “but I guarantee you it happened a lot just like it has in most wars” is one of the dumbest things ever posted on the internet. Again, if you have proof then feel free to post it. But by now its painfully obvious that you have none, since you completely didn’t back up your theory like I asked you to. On the other hand, I can post numerous articles to back up my claims.
Here is just one, specifically related to WWII in berlin.
http://www.rense.com/general19/redarmy.htm
It doesn’t take someone being a “mangina” to realize the above. I actually happen to think men are superior to women at just about everything in life. But to ignore easily verifiable facts in history would just make me a moron. The fact that you decide to run with your “theory” without doing the slightest amount of research (which would have proved it wrong) speaks worlds about how you think.
I will say it AGAIN, post your proof. You stated:
“We have tons if historical evidence that women have lied about rape for the most mundane reasons. When a large number of women claim to have been raped, some portion of those accusations will be patently false.”
Please just post one REPUTABLE link that proves the above statement. I guarantee you that you will NEVER find a single article.
WWII
http://www.cotwa.info/2012/06/flashback-to-world-war-ii-congressional.html
http://www.avoiceformen.com/mens-rights/false-rape-culture/the-original-feminazis-fake-rape-cases-1945/
“We have tons if historical evidence that women have lied about rape for the most mundane reasons. When a large number of women claim to have been raped, some portion of those accusations will be patently false.”
Please just post one REPUTABLE link that proves the above statement. I guarantee you that you will NEVER find a single article.
I really, really hope you aren’t that stupid and just misinterpreted my statement to be specific about WWII and not history itself. But if you are that stupid:
older American history
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/jimcrow/stories_events_scotts.html
http://www.duluthnewstribune.com/news/3763798-week-remembrance-honors-victims-1920-lynching-duluth
http://falserapearchives.blogspot.com/2009/06/archives-of-sexual-behavior-feb-1994.html
Shitloads more where that came from.
And, unless you live under a rock, you have heard about and can find about all the ridiculous modern false rape accusations online.
While I would usually agree with this train of thought; it’s well documented that the Russian army was full of a bunch of degenerates and cut-throats, and that they did indeed rape legions of German women and were directed to do so. Lets also point out that these events were documented by men and not by women, unlike today.
they werent necessarily directed so (beyond a certain rank),t the officer corps often didn’t give a shit especially given they also had dead parents, siblings, spouses so were ok with revenge. Note female soviet soldiers were often saying shit like the germans deserved it or making jokes about the rape.
The reason why these hoes ain’t loyal and will never (collectively) be as loyal as men are is because of a little thing called solipsism.
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/lUw5nLGQEuU/maxresdefault.jpg
So in layman’s terms;
http://mattforney.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/solipsism.jpg
http://www.kellyruta.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/vintage-selfish.png
If you want loyalty, buy a dog or befriend a man with virtue as a companion.
My favorite…..
Re. selfish women sacrificing their whole family to escape, and the parallel drawn between the 70% escapee and US divorce rate being females, I think we overestimate how much women love their children. Yep I said it. Guys say: “No one woman will ever love you as much as your mother does.” I poise the question: “Does your mother, and mothers in general really love you as much as you think?” This is a concept I’m wondering about in the aggregate. I’m starting to think true mother love MUST pass through the father as a filter to arrive at the child unfettered, and truly lack selfishness.
Especially when so many women initiate divorce because they aren’t happy. They think nothing of how much divorce screws up their kids.
Indeed, for all the love women claim to have for their children they don’t even blink while detonating their lives in record numbers because mom isn’t “satisfied”.
I’d like to think this depends on the woman, there must be some variation in personality traits here.
But if you think about it… A woman can in fact afford to ditch her kid. It’s a 9 month stint wasted for sure, but she’ll always know that the children she gives birth to are her own.
I think it’s safe to say that there are differences in forms of “love”. A (real) mother’s love is unconditional because she doesn’t expect much from the child yet still loves it. Whereas love/intimacy/whatever a woman would show a man would be more of an exchange of sex and affection for money/resources/social status, etc.
An example of womens love for children: http://www.numberofabortions.com They also have a new campaign called “Good women have abortions.” Only a small number of women care for their children.
That is pure absolute evil.
The idea that women love their kids is bullshit.
I’m a father. I see moms in action all the time. Women don’t want their kids, they want what those kids can provide. Kids fulfill the same role as beta orbiters and pets. Kids aren’t people to women, they’re accessories, they’re tools, they’re trophies, they’re seams to be mined.
ie: child support $ for the “mother” to spend on herself.
True. I believe it’s all about the appearance of a good mother – thats what drives many of them.
I think many of these women divorcing is another “follow the herd” move. One woman starts talking divorce and pretty soon, several others in her social circle are doing it.
Women will rationalize any move on their part as the right thing to do.. even when they’re 100 percent in the wrong.
Any woman who’d rather her kids be raised by a single mother than a father, unless the father is beating her head in, is selfish and only for herself. She doesn’t care about the kids, because prison is full of single parent kids.
Sorry. I may get slammed or worse but I don’t blame anyone who is able to flee that hellhole. Really you could find worse examples than this to attack feminism. Much worse. If I lived in a place like North Korea I would plot day and night to escape and would consider death preferable to living like that. Heck, the Soviet Union came apart in 1991 and we in the good old USA are slowly but surely becoming them. North Korea is just a few steps further into hellish dystopia. I wonder about the logic behind some of the assertions here.
That was also my first thought. On one hand it’s like a woman leaving her child behind in an apartment with her screaming, drunk, coked up boyfriend waving a kitchen knife.
On the other hand it’s kind of fucked up to sit here in the first world, typing on your macbook and blaming these people for any of their actions. While the 70% statistic IS interesting and maybe revealing, you still have to take into consideration the generations of abuse, oppression and torture that nation had to experience.
The author did take it into account, he stated so multiple times. He’s simply noting the fact that women, at a much higher rate than men, are willing to damn others for their own benefit.
Their reasons are certainly more understandable in North Korea, but the fact remains that these kinds of statistics lay bare female solipsism in its purest form.
I pose that men, not women, are the ones with the deepest love for their offspring, partners, friends and families.
How many stories of heroism, loyalty, bravery, duty and honor involve women? None, because these are exclusively masculine traits. Had women been present in the trenches of WWI they would’ve deserted to the last by week 3.
A.V. Yader is not blaming the defectors, he is conducting analysis on their behaviour to prove a point. It’s like North Korea is a lab and the defectors are rats, and he is examining the difference between the males and the females. This analysis doesn’t blame the defectors, it observes them.
Gentlemen, we can always count on women to be women—we must accept that and live with it.
Where is the blame in that statement?
From your comment, I certainly would not want you as a comrade when in battle. No wonder why the generals shoot the deserters. Deserting ensures death. Standing and fight gives you a chance to live.
You know what? Stuff it. You don’t even know me and you’re calling me a coward. This is the fucking lamest, intellectually lazy article I ever read on ROK. Even worse than calling Bill Clinton the vegan married to a dyke an alpha. Even worse than saying how alpha red pill vile rappers are. North Korea is a nightmare of the highest order and you want to pull out the red pill card on specifically the women who escape that hell hole. They have more guts than the men who stay. They have to leave because the men are cowed and won’t fight. This is exactly they type of life the global elites want for all of us and you say the women have to stay because the men who wouldn’t fight will be punished if they escape. To compare this to the French women bedded by the Nazis or other such historical examples is ridiculous. This is how you fight feminism? Pathetic.
Good article overall. I want to say that it is your girlfriend’s fault when she cheated on you. Only a wimp says that he is responsible for the actions of other people.
Women may not be equal to men but they still have moral agency and must be held accountable for their actions. The biggest reason for the sorry state of affairs in Western culture is largely because women get a pass for bad behavior.
In other words, tolerance encourages.
Exactly. If I had to sum up the problem for the manosphere in as few words as possible it would be: It’s all men’s fault.
Ultimately it is. We gave women power and look what happened.
While it’s obvious that his girlfriend was the one at fault, what’s blaming her going to do for him? Not seeing what he himself did “wrong” would lead him to repeat the same scenario over and over again. The only person who loses or suffers is him.
What he did wrong was he expected her to have virtues like men. He made himself vulnerable. We have been brainwashed in thinking women by nature are trustworthy and loyal, but in reality we here at RoK know the truth.
The nature of woman is to cling to someone who provides resources, hence the Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks aspect of hypergamy.
However, this does not mean that a man can’t hold his wife accountable. If you are a Christian, for example, marriage is more than just a contract. It is an oath you swear to God that you will spend your days with this woman until one of you dies.
The trouble is, most men don’t bother to set the standards for women when they start a relationship with one. If you are looking for a LTR with a woman, then you need to set the standards. A Christian marriage, for example, would require that she be reminded of the oath she swore to God and that adultery or divorce is an affront to God, not just her husband.
Whether or not she follows through, though, is on her. What seems to be indicative here in this article though is his girlfriend cheated on him because he didn’t lay down an explicit standard of behavior for the relationship. Because of this, she had less problem with cheating on him and justified it by believing that he was doing the same.
Keep in mind that this doesn’t work all the time, but having your standards for your relationship with your wife or girlfriend explicitly stated before you really start it is what is sadly required in this day and age.
If you marry or commit to a girl who’s virginity you didn’t take yourself, don’t expect her to stick around. It’s simple common sense.
Well said. I think the main way to ensure your woman does not stray is two-fold. Always have other chicks available to replace her and come down hard on any disrespect. Your woman must fear your wrath. She will respect this because it is your demonstration of your alpha status in the relationship.
Furthermore, you need to “take care of her”. In this I mean that you become indispensable in her life. She must feel she cannot handle life without you and that you are the one who fixes all problems. A woman will not want to lose a man like that who has now essentially replaced her father.
In the Bible, the only legitimate reason to divorce is infidelity/adultery.
That’s true to an extent, but not entirely. If you can find a virgin and marry her, by all means do it, but at the same be aware that you still have to apply the same Game techniques that everyone else does who is married.
Sure it’s probably easier but you still have to be Alpha.
That doesn’t apply to TANACH (a/k/a the entire corpus of what is known as “The Old Testament). People are allowed to get divorced if the marriage is simply not working out for a host of other good reasons.
Judaism doesn’t encourage treating spouses like disposable goods. If it is possible and feasible, we encourage people to work things out. However, if that is simply not possible, the Almighty G-d of Israel gives his blessings to divorces too.
There are a few scenarios where divorce is the far better option, rather than staying together and being completely and utterly miserable.
Humans did just fine without game techniques for tens of thousands of years. They only became necessary when men’s worldview and concepts went wrong. If you hold a traditional worldview and the proper understanding of men and women’s place in the world you should naturally be Alpha.
(and I don’t mean complaining about and missunderstanding female nature such as this article does. )
Who cares what the bible says about ANYTHING. Last I checked, it wasn’t the Constitution.
Of course it’s her fault. What the writer is saying is, “Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me again, shame on me.” Men have to own responsibility for their well-being.
“I want to say that it is your girlfriend’s fault when she cheated on
you. Only a wimp says that he is responsible for the actions of other
people.”
As I said in the article: It was my fault for getting wrapped up with a low-life piece of shit in the first place. It is the responsibility of all men to be critical in their thinking and to not assume that the bad things in life somehow don’t apply to them — it’s open season on all of us if we’re not critical in our thoughts and actions. She was certainly not given a pass for her behavior, and was discarded like a shit-filled diaper once I knew what was going on — as it should have been.
If a woman gets drunk at a party and has regret sex or something that she construes as rape. Our natural predilection is to say: “Well, don’t get drunk to the point where you make stupid decisions — assume some responsibility for your actions and keep your guard up.” That’s was the point I was trying to make, and I’m pretty sure I wasn’t the least bit ambiguous in the way I made it.
I have found through trial and error (and punishing results) that any man can take any woman and bring out the best or worst in her via the treatment he gives her.
This is why, and also from my own experience, trying to treat her the best makes her worse.
Hate to say it but it’s almost like dog or horse training. I have been told and believe from my experiences with dogs and horses that there are really no such things as bad dogs and horses, just poorly trained or spoiled ones (horses can get spoiled but you have to mistreat a dog to end up with a bad dog).
My disclaimer will be that I think it’s unfortunate, but it’s still the same with women. Yes I too wish women had the “agency” we have, but they do not.
And the feminists and progressives had nearly a century to “fix” that, but they chose to feed the hamsters instead of killing them. It’s obvious why: the hamster can be quite dangerous (but healthy for tyranny) when it goes into a voting booth.
yup exactly. This is why whenever I bark orders at my girlfriend and tell her what to do and put myself in a dominant position over her, I always get laid that night. Whenever I tried to supplicate and be nice to her, it was the opposite.
lol! The other day I mentioned to my gf I might go away for a while to do some long term travel. She asked me if I would miss her. I said, “well, you can visit me”. She said “but that isn’t what I asked you!”
I just shrugged and said “oh well”.
Later on she gave me the longest blow job in history.
I’m kind of on the fence when it comes to the “women lack agency” thing. On the one hand it seems true, on the other hand isn’t it just a form of retroactive white knighting to absolve women of responsibility for their actions?
In other words, hamstering?
The implication I got was that you were blaming yourself for her cheating on you. Instead you are blaming yourself for getting into a relationship with her in the first place. Makes sense now.
Too often I see men blame themselves when their wife or girlfriend cheats on him because they were not Beta enough and I thought that might have been the case here.
I understood what you meant but it was predictable that someone would make this point. I think that even though what you said makes logical sense (i.e. an unwise choice of woman) we should avoid the appearance that we are taking responsibility for another’s actions, particularly when we are fighting against this perception that a woman’s cheating is a man’s fault.
“Be the man of steel”
way to end that article boss.
Excellent article.
As we continue to see day in and day out now…..
Men build civilization. Women destroy it.
Even when it is their family members and their unborn young they slash the knife deep into the guts without a pause for consideration like the ADD twenty something slut bot swiping away on tinder.
Be the man of steel indeed.
Solipsism is an inherent trait in females.
The lesson to be learned is this: you can only trust the average woman about as far as you can throw her, and considering how fucking fat the average woman is nowadays—that’s not very God damn far.
Amen brother. Excellent article. Well done. How did you research all that information?
Glad you enjoyed it, Ghost Tiger.
I enjoy reading about political prisons, gulags, and North Korea in general. If America had such a system in place, then those of us writing in this sphere would find ourselves shoulder to shoulder in the coal mines or the corn fields — being worked to death for what we believe in. So I basically accumulated the knowledge over time from reading and watching whatever I could get my hands on.
Oh ok… I was wondering if you had perhaps found a way to visit the hermit kingdom or perhaps had dated a defectress. Thanks for the reply.
I think America’s rejection of communism is something we can take pride in as we are watching the current social decline. Even though Russia appears to be the current cradle of western civilization, at least we were right about communism. In fact, Joe McCarthy may have been one of the first victims of SJW outrage.
http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2007-11-07.html
Good to see you back man..I was losing faith in this place.
Apparently it is about 80 feet: Saxum Tarpeium
The problems with Juche has more to do with retarded Marxist ideals than it does Confucianism. If it was truly Confucian it would also accept inequality and hierarchy instead of trying to equalize the citizenry. Deference to authority is seen in any totalitarian government, Confucian society or not
If anything Confucian social structuring is the most enlightened ever devised, balancing both meritocracy and innate human differences, guided only by pragmatism with no regard for idealistic left wing bullshit
“The problems with Juche has more to do with retarded Marxist ideals than it does Confucianism.”
Precisely. I’m guessing the Confucianism had to be intertwined in Juche to make it more palatable for a 1940s Korean citizenry; a mishmash of tradition and Marxist bullshit that could be easily sold to the populace.
most of the indepenence fighters in Korea against Japanese imperialism by that time period were communist or anarchist. The fact that they were the major groups fighting for independence, as well as the soviet soldiers in the area guaranteed that communism would have a priviledge. Also, no Juche has more in common with Showa era Japanese veneration of the Emperor than ‘confucius say’. Note at the time of Korean independence, Korea had more peopel literate in Japanese than Korean languages.
If owning a Bible is a reason for persecution, how come there are churches and mosques in North Korea ?
for propaganda purposes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_North_Korea
A very interesting article about North Korea.
We definitely do not have to feel ashamed of those moments in our life when we got owned by entirely commit to a woman who then played in our back. That’s a rite of passage that every man should go through to fully understand the reality about women.
Wow! At first I’m like, “why the women?” Then you realize that women are women wherever you go and they don’t give a shit about who they hurt or kill to get what they want.
I’m not defending women, but I’d be careful labeling them as such, believing that men “give a shit about who they hurt or kill to get what they want.”
Plenty of men fall into this category in current times. We’re only as cooperative as we feel we need to be. It’s “human” nature, not just female nature.
Men play this game just as well as women when it suits them. “Conditioning” works on us all.
Yet men don’t have big daddy government to back them up & bail them out for their mistakes…..
The “game” you speak of is nowhere near in men’s favor where it should be.
Women have evolved to block out the feeling of guilt and remorse for the men they betray and cheat for their own survival. Think about it. In the caveman days, the women need, NEED men for resources women are unable to obtain on their own physical capabilities in order to survive. In order to get what they need, they resort to deceit and manipulations that would make a typical man feel guilty. If women exhibit that guilt emotion and vow not to do it again, she would perish. Her provider is injured and she stays loyal to him, both of them would perish.
Fast forward to the last century or so, women who divorce were shamed to keep the hypergamy in check. Now with no fault divorce, you can see why it’s the women that files for divorce more than men.
To this effect:
Or maybe Asian women overall are just more disloyal. They marry outside their race at insane, almost nonsensical levels when you factor in male socio-economic status. They embrace Liberal Values at a high rate as evidenced by Mattress Girl’s mother on Roosh’s twitter page. I dunnos…anyways I am very glad the West got rid of the ‘Sins of the father do not continue on to the son.’ That type of legal system is deeply wrong.
My mother was a loyal woman. She left us in 2006, however, one of her my sayings was: “There are three sides to every story, his side her side and the truth”.
I don’t blame anyone for escaping horrible political situations. You just don’t know the whole story. The family could of said, “leave now, leave while you can”.
Quote — “You just don’t know the whole story. The family could of said, “leave now, leave while you can”.
From the article:
“Some of these North Korean women have no families, perhaps they were
orphaned or lost their loved ones to famine; or they were even
encouraged by the men in their families to pursue a better life, even if
that meant certain death for those men.”
Quote — “I don’t blame anyone for escaping horrible political situations.”
Thank you for your womanly input.
Also, if you’re mother was a loyal woman, she wouldn’t have, you know, left.
Did a little searching and your information is incorrect. You failed to mention how many NC women end up crossing a frozen river between China and North Korea. They pay human traffickers to transport them to a country where they live in fear of being deported back to NC. Usually the women end up being sexually abused and trafficked. The lucky ones end up as brides to elderly Chinese men and impregnated with the hope of being able to stay in China. If deported their mixed blood child is murdered and the women end up dying in a concentration camp jail. The other option is to make the arduous trek to Mongolia across the Gobi desert – sounds like fun to me.
Your butt hurt feelings about a relationship so many years ago lead you to compare North American divorce rates to human beings escaping one of the worse dictatorships in the world? Doesn’t resemble an air conditioned sushi restaurant to me.
By the way, my mother passed in 2006. She and my father were married for 55 years. Both Canadians, they waited till my father returned from the Korean war before they married in 1952. Your comment about my mother’s “loyalty” directly falls in line with your poison toxic mindset.
It’s not about being a man of steel, it’s about being a human being.
I would love to watch you shit yourself all over the place while reading a story of a man who fled to save himself thereby condemning his wife to death.
Quote — “You failed to mention how many NC women end up crossing a frozen river between China and North Korea…. The other option is to make the arduous trek to Mongolia across the Gobi desert – sounds like fun to me.”
Oh, I did? Because I could have sworn this is
contained in the first paragraph under the defector title in this very article, an article you supposedly read:
“It’s impossible for a defector to cross the Korean Demilitarized Zone at the north-south border, so defectors cross over the Yalu river and into China. The normal route is to travel southwest through China, down through Laos,
and into Thailand where defectors then seek asylum at the
South Korean embassy in Bangkok. Another route is to go through Mongolia, though this is less common.”
Am I bad person for not mentioning that it gets cold in the DPRK and the rivers freeze? Am I bad person for not mentioning that the Gobi Desert is in Mongolia? I trust the readership here has at least glanced at a fucking atlas at least once in their lives. You know what defectors also
do? They cross the Yalu in the summer months too — who knew, right? Mostly in knee deep water and at narrow points in the river — with less than 50 yards to cross. It’s not challenging to bribe the guards with a couple of good packs of cigarettes, say you’re going to be back in 24 hours with more goodies for them, and then never show back up again.
“Your butt hurt feelings about a relationship so many years ago lead you…”
My “butt hurt” feelings are non existent. This was to serve others. You do remember that you are, in fact, on a motherfucking men’s website right? That I, as a man, put myself out there — and in an embarrassing situation at that — to help other guys exercise good judgement in their
character assessments of women? So that they can learn from my mistakes? You do remember that this website you’re on isn’t yours, right lady?
“They pay human traffickers to transport them to a country where they live in fear of being deported back to NC.”
Are you telling me this like I don’t know this fucking information already? Of course they’re going to get deported back to the North — that’s what happens when you’re staying in a country ILLEGALLY! They’re putting
themselves at great risk: they can’t work legally, they can’t travel legally — they can’t do anything legally. So what happens to women when they can’t contribute? They have to fuck to get by. That’s just the way it goes — including being sold into marriage. Choices have consequences, and they’re not always pretty. Unfortunately for many of
those women, that’s what life has destined for them. And lastly, of course they pay traffickers — many of whom operate along the border and are successful defectors themselves. What happens when a woman can’t
pay her way? She, once again, has to fuck to get by. This is actually superior to what happens to men, because when they can’t pay — they get fucking killed. Also, who else is going to navigate them through Laos and into Thailand? They can’t do it themselves.
“Comparing North American divorce rates to human beings escaping one of the worse dictatorships in the world. Doesn’t resemble an air conditioned sushi
restaurant to me.”
Of course it doesn’t resemble that to you — because you’re not smart enough to understand the point of the fucking
article, lady. Eating kimchi in Seoul is a luxury afforded to those that have made it to the South — and it does happen. Feel free to read about the bullshit story of Yeonmi Park here: http://thepeacewager.org/2014/12/27/yeonmi-park-the-defector-who-fooled-the-world/
Also, there are four stages of learning: rote, understanding, application, and correlation — this article is correlation. That’s what I was doing, making the argument that women aren’t the most loyal things traversing the earth — hence the comparison to the divorce rate here in the U.S.
As for the shit about the concentration camps you mentioned… Well, whad-a-ya-fucking-know: I mentioned that in the article too:
“When one defects from North Korea: they are considered a traitor and their crime is political in nature.”
I then mentioned the conditions inside the camps — thoroughly. Defectors + Recapture = kwaliso lifetime sentences and forced labor until death in a total control zone, with the family tagging along for good measure
and relegated to the revolutionary zones.
All of this is a really long and drawn out way of saying: You don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about, lady. You spent — maybe — a few hours doing some Google
searches, and I’ve read every God damn book out there about this shit. You’re out of your depth — pack it up and pack in. And — preferably — never comment here again. You obviously can’t read and your opinions are less than worthless.
Lastly, sorry for the loss of your mother. Next time, say “she passed away” or “she died” or “she’s no longer with us” — don’t say she “left.” It creates confusion when you don’t write accurately — I trust you understand why I made that mistake.
Wow! Lots of typing. Thanks for pointing out that this is a man’s website, this poor dumb female didn’t know that. What is the title of your article? What next, women escaping ISIS makes them (dis)loyal? You should correlate those stats to UK women on social assistance. And who are the traffickers? Certainly not women. But that’s OK because children should be raped and trafficked because of their bad mothers.
I have always liked your articles and laughed till I cried when reading about, “shasta, the wingless fruitbat”. However, you hit a low ball on this one.
Out of curiosity, I searched “Asian Women” on RoK and 104 articles appeared. I eagerly await the next “Dating Fabulous North Korean Women- they know what hardship really is” posting.
North Korean women (attractive ones) are in high demand in Chinese Manchuria because of their traditionalism and femininity. There actually is a market for them. I’ve seen a couple documentaries on North Korea and this fact was made pretty clear.
wow really? I”m not surprised but could this be because of unbalanced population of male to female ratio in China with addition to Chinese women acting like cunts?
Judging from some of the pics here, I would definitely assault their de militarized zones, if you catch my meaning. *nudge, wink*
Really? The only market for North Korean women in China is sexual trafficking and sex trade because the are vulnerable due to being held hostage because they are illegals and easy to exploit. They are used as brides for old Chinese men and as prostitutes. Shame on you!
Makes sense for women to be more selfish. They’re lives are somewhat more important evolutionary because they give birth. Their own safety is a priority. If they aren’t safe, their wombs and future offspring aren’t safe either. Sucks but it’s nature.
While I agree that this would reflect upon the female nature, in reality guilt is not the main reason why people are not fleeing North Korea.
Up until 2001 the overwhelming majority of refugees were men. Only in recent years it has changed for a variety of reasons. It is by far more easier for women to leave the country than for a men. (see article for reasons)
Also the automatic punishment of entire major families of defectors does not seem to be entirely true as plenty of refugees use their earned funds to organize the flight of other family members:
http://www.nknews.org/2013/07/why-are-the-majority-of-north-korean-defectors-women/
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/07/north-korea-defectors-drop
Also on another point: There are plenty of parents who would even encourage their children to flee regardless what would happen to them. When you are set to die in a concentration camp anyway or are to live under terrible conditions, then at least your children have a chance of a better life.
Thank You. NARALT.
“Up until 2001 the overwhelming majority of refugees were men. Only in
recent years it has changed for a variety of reasons. It is by far more
easier for women to leave the country than for a men. (see article for
reasons)”
Correct — out of all 912 defectors to the South by 2001, 88 percent were men. We’re up to nearly 30,000 now, and every year — for the last 14 — has had a majority, in many case a vast majority, of women.
From the NKnews article: “Their role as breadwinners and the need to make money pushes N. Korean women towards China”
Zel, you actually believe that North Korean women are breadwinners, as that article states? It then goes on to say that these women, who primarily work service sector jobs or are unemployed, are the financial gate keepers — despite the men being the ones more obligated to work and partake in party engagements? In one of the most patriarchal societies on the planet, women are somehow the breadwinners? There’s no fucking way, dude. What should be noted is that only 6% of the defectors reported they left because they felt their life was threatened. I’d be more than willing to bet that the majority of that 6% were men, too. I stand by my article and its premise — the mainstream media is still the mainstream media, regardless of the topic. They’re not going to paint women as turds, and you know this.
And yes — defectors do use their resettlement funds to assist in getting their relatives out. And what do you think happens if those sweetheart deals being made under the table either fall through, the money runs out, or party loyalists catch wind of what’s going on? They’re operating on a razor’s edge — if the money runs out or the wrong people find out: it’s off to the mountains to play human farm animal.
Quote — “Also on another point: There are plenty of parents who would even encourage their children to flee regardless what would happen to them. When you are set to die in a concentration camp anyway or are to live
under terrible conditions, then at least your children have a chance of a
better life.”
As I mentioned in the article — and in this comments section — this is from the article. Yes, the one that I wrote:
“Some of these North Korean women have no families, perhaps they were
orphaned or lost their loved ones to famine; or they were even
encouraged by the men in their families to pursue a better life, even if
that meant certain death for those men. They had nothing to lose and
everything to gain by defecting.”
Agree. There is no way that a society (especially North Korea) is pushing women to be the bread winners.
As for the news, we see in our own country (U.S.) the propaganda that goes on and on. The word “news” is a joke itself because it’s more fluff, bullshit and entertainment than news.
I don’t trust my own government reporting all of the facts…I’m certainly not going to trust another country for the truth.
It’s usually about money (or votes)…just follow the trail.
It always boggles my mind why one would even choose to have kids at all under those living conditions. I mean, why perpetuate an utter hell on earth. The country would dissolve within a couple generations.
Don’t want to sound like a douche but Asian women are so easy and naive, it’s so funny. They are like cum buckets. They will easily fall for lies and will believe almost anything. Like I told them the other day that I was a CEO of an internet company (I lied; I am not) and I was quickly able to bang four Asians in less than a week. If I tried this with white Americans, they will quickly call me out for my bullshit and are paranoid around men (direct opposite of Asian females). European women are the best in my opinion because they are attractive. Being around with Asian women (at first it’s intriguing because of their feminine characteristics) but they can quickly get annoying like when they talk and open their mouth while eating, some of them have serious bad breath, messed up teeth, not to mention they don’t have great bodies either like flat ass and flat chest but at least they aren’t a hog fat like white American cunts. You can compare the body of an average Asian women to a body of a 12 year old adolescent puberty boy LOL. Now I know why Roosh only stays in Europe. He knows the quality of European girls.
I was able to fuck a lot of Asian girls behind their boyfriend’s (asian dudes) back and asian girls being loyal is bunch of bullshit… if you westernize asian girls, you get the worse aspects of her from her asian and americanized side. Any of you guys read Matt Forney’s Indian girl article here? Asian girls are similar to Indian girls in some ways but at least Indian girls are more loyal to their men even though AWALT at the end. I feel sorry for those poor beta dickless Asian dudes who are just frustrated chumps and can’t even fuck their own women. Just can’t imagine the life of an asian boy in America. One of my workout buddy is asian dude (the dude is jacked and pretty tall dude and okay looking no homo) but he is in early 30s but is a virgin. I told the motherfucker to go back to China or wherever da hell he came from if he wanted to get some poon because no sane white women is going to go near a yellow chump.
I’m proud of being white. I can go anywhere and any country in the world and have all the local girls admire my looks because I’m tall, muscular, handsome and white.
Spot on. Here’s something interesting as well about their loyalty, the married ones go hunting for white guys to impregnate them, and their beta husbands will often still raise the child when it’s born because a half-white baby is “special” and can potentially earn them money in the future (which is the whole reason Asians have children, I’m serious). Oh, and that information was told to me by two different Asian girls who were “warning” me (actually, I don’t know their angle in telling me, who cares).
I don’t know any other race that does extreme ass kissing like Asians do.
I mean the other day I was warming up by doing deadlift of 150 lbs (something even my sister can do without breaking a sweat). My max is currently 550 lbs. All the beta faggot Asian boys were like dropping their jaw and congratulating and hand clapping me. It’s like I was simply warming up a light weight and all those beta schlubs were like looking at me in admiration; it was actually embarrassing situation.
I mean I guess it’s good thing when Asians look up to us. I don’t mean to flatter myself in any way and I”m sure not all Asians have high opinion of us but for the most part; once in a while I meet like some crazy, violently racist psycho Asian dudes from time to time, Asians do look up to white people especially Asian females. On the other hand, most Asian dues act like simps and beta faggots no offense to any asian dudes out here.. Just reporting what I’m seeing in general. Their “honor” culture of saving face, deference to authority, being collective cultured mindset and not being a rebel to parents makes any asians beta especially from a western mind. Also add the fact that most asian dudes refuse to workout, and are natural push overs, tend to be typical nice guy, shy, introvert, socially awkward, short, skinny. I can see why Asian women would prefer us.
We as humans tend to cling on status and money but Asians take that to whole new level. Most Asian families will have no remorse “selling” or marrying off their daughter to a rich family just for status, fame, and wealth. Well as much as I feel sorry for those beta chumps, I have no remorse fucking their women. If they are willing to act like weak, pathetic spineless fags and I don’t know them; they should be able to tame their women really well like Middle Eastern people. Anytime I try to hit on a middle eastern chick, I always have to hover over my shoulder to make sure no allah-akbar son of a bitch is going to saw my head off simply for being an infidel and hitting on their women lol. But with Asian women, I can easily hit on them in front of their men and their men would actually even encourage me. It’s that easy with asian chicks. There is a youtube video of a white guy hitting on asian girl and even stealing the girlfriend and making out with her while the pathetic asian boy just watches. Search it on youtube; it’s out there.
Like the sheriff said in “No Country For Old Men” even in a contest between a man and a steer the outcome is not certain. I roll with a guy at my Brazilian Jiu Jitsu studio who is Asian, ex Delta, and he will put you and that 550 pound deadlift in a world of shit. He’s no scrawny guy either and also goes to my gym.
He’s a nice enough guy, but like a lot of Deltas I can tell he has a mean streak.
Asians are physically weak and inferior to whites. There is simply no match. I’m sure I can own your Asian friend. I also did BJJ and in addition to that, I done wrestling, boxing, and local MMA. World of shit? I don’t think so, not even a slight bit chance mate. I have never seen in my life an Asian bench pressing anything above 100 lbs. I’m serious they are that physically weak.
“The coin has no power…”
I’ve been in Asia for years. I’ll leave you with an image that pretty much encapsulates Asian males. It really happened.
Two young twinks, about 5’8″ to 5’10” and 140 pounds (30% bf somehow) were benching. The one guy goes to bench and there is NO weight on the bar. The other guy decides to SPOT him anyway by plopping down on the guy’s hips, cowgirl style. And he was niched in their good. I mean his crotch just glommed onto the bencher’s hips with a porn star fit. From there he spotted the guy’s empty bar for one set of about 30-40, with the guy on top kind of curling the bar up as the mountee pushed from the bench. One of them had bleach blonde hair. They were laughing and giggling the whole time. So for every ‘Delta’ badass Asian there are about 100,000 guys like the ones I described above.
Again, 100% spot on. Though you do have to kinda feel sorry for them. A few of my Asian friends have let slip the following phrase while drunk, “You’re lucky, you can get any woman, they all know you’ve got a big dick.” And, no, my male friends haven’t seen my dick. Must suck knowing the stereotype (or fact) that they’re walking around with 4 1/2 inch dicks.
Don’t take offense. I’m just saying not all Asians are weak and effeminate. This guy is not small, weak or wimpy. He is around 200 lbs and can lift. I’m not going to talk about my bench, or my belt level, because hey, anyone can be a super bad ass on the internet. But I agree most Asians are frail and not very strong.
Well our Asian Delta operator was raised here and had the benefits of a high protein diet. I think most of the Asians are small and weak due to the low protein diet. You can’t grow muscles on rice.
^ yup exactly. I see these kinds of shit all the time. There are white and black girls that are physically stronger and even outlift Asian guys. In Asia, they look down on lifting weights and equate that to “slave work” because historically in Asia, all the top rich guys just sit back and relax and used slaves (their own kind) lower class to do all the physical demanding work. There are Asians even the younger ones who still equate any physical work to be a slave work so they don’t really work out which is sad because they are missing out on benefits of working out and lifting heavy weights.
I wonder why it’s so prevalent among Asians to talk lowly of themselves like that even in public. No wonder people don’t respect them. Yeah I been flattered many times by Asians for something that is considered nothing to me. I know some Asian guys who are begging me to introduce a white girl to them so I just simply said “if you like a girl then approach her” but none of them do like pussies and just want to be friends with her first and somehow want me to introduce the girls to them. They are spineless cowards if you ask me.
I’m a racialist. I’m a big fan of Stoddard, moreover a Nordicist like Madison Grant. It’s folly to underestimate your opponent. Asians have been pounding on Europe’s doors for centuries. Now they are set to inherit the Earth and we are scheduled for extinction. If you have any doubt that they can and will fight find any old Marine who was Island hopping against the Japanese in WWII.
^ no offense taken. Why would I take offense? Well I will believe you since there are always outliers but yes Asians in general are not strong. Once in a while, you will see one or few Asians that breaks away from their stereotype but this is rare to find. Really rare. Majority of Asian guys still live up to their stereotypes.
by the way, just curious which Asian country was this in ?
South Korea.
so are you white? I”m going to assume yes. Yes you are right. It’s bad to underestimate Asians and yes I know what they are capable of but they will never defeat us whites. They can copy a lot of western invention, put on a few slight touch, “remake it” little bit and say it’s theirs. They succeed off of our success. White man invented modern technology and Asians are smart enough to profit from it and get rich. Compared to other non-white race, they are smartest but they will never surpass us whites, this is reality. They lack originality and their study method involves memorization for the most part since they can’t understand basic foundations sometimes.
The Asians you are talking about that “pounded on Europe’s door”. They were Mongols and they are savage like. Out of all other Asians, Mongols are considered to be violent tempered and impulsive type of Asians. Mongols were simply great horseback rider and arrow shooter and fought us like cowards from distance and feign attack, running away, and attacked civilian villages and holding them hostage and forcing us to submit. They were no match for knights. When fought in straight conventional land warfare, they got owned most of the time. Plus because Mongols don’t have any solid culture of their own, they always assimilated and absorbed the culture where they set to dominate. That is so beta of them. That’s how Mongols were easily able to adapt to Islam after they conquered Persia and Central Asia. They also became culturally Russian real fast after they landed in Russia and they adopted to Chinese culture very fast after setting up Yuan dynasty. Simply they are Asians with black behavior.
The Japanese sneak attacked us and ever since we entered War with them in the Pacific Ocean, we pretty much owned them and won all the battles. I give them credit though, they fought to the last man and fought with bravery unlike the coward arab fighters today who simply drop their weapon and run away.
Today China is no different. China, (an Asian giant) knows that they are not match with the United States even if we are at the shittiest point (our military might is too much for them). Chinese can rely on billion numbers all they want with their outdated soviet bought weaponry and copied reverse engineered US weapons but since we are the creators, they will never defeat us. One of our one nuclear warhead can pretty much destroy ALL of Asia. Asians usually find strength in large numbers and their collective mindset. We whites are independent thinkers, curious, naturally are entrepreneur and we don’t usually like to be in situation where we have to be told what to do. Unlike Asians and Middle Easterners, we whites don’t have stupid and unnecessary dogma and our thoughts are not limited by bunch of stupid superstitious cultural shit. We rely on science. This is how Europe got ahead of Asia.
I don’t believe China is going to be next superpower. IF they want to be taken serious then they are going to be have to be at least strong like white Russia. Chinese try to beat us with money, because they know they will NEVER beat White America and white Russia with purely their overpopulated one billion army they are talking about.
lol I”m not surprised considering that bleaching hair is so common there. Also not surprised at their behaviors since they are the most beta Asian compared to all other Asians.
Yes I am White, German, Danish, 1/4 Irish. I would not call myself Ragnar Redbeard nor be a fan of Lothrop Stoddard if I were otherwise. I commend you on your knowledge of history, especially that of the Mongols. They had one other flaw you overlooked, they were raging alcoholics. Look, I believe Europeans on average to be the physically strongest (especially nords) and most inventive people on earth. However, to overlook the cliff we are currently standing on is foolish. We have allowed an alien minority to take control of the Institutions of power and they intend time wipe us out. We are rapidly being displaced in our ancestral homelands, feminist poison administered through daily media programming has disrupted our breeding cycle.
No different than the situations with all the white women that have a black skin fetish because we all know they have 10″ dicks.
I am married to an Asian woman, as one I met in Asia. Anatomically I am average at best, but she is a tight squeeze, and frequently complains I am too big and make her pussy sore (to which I reply, tell all your friends). I have seen Asian women (once again, in Asia) who absolutely refuse to have anything to do with American Blacks because they thought they would be too big to handle.
I’ve had Asian prostitutes refuse to fuck me ’cause they don’t want to be stretched. Stereotypes can be good and bad. Because I’m above average it works in my favour (I suppose, I mean I’ve never had one say, “Oh, I thought all white men are big,”), but if I were small that would be shit, always seeing that look of disappointment when you drop your pants. Must suck being an average or below average hung black dude, since the average isn’t even close to 10″, out of curiosity I once checked average sizes around the globe. Japan’s is around 4.3″ (which was the lowest I could find), and I checked a few African countries and they all hovered around the same number, so I checked Nigeria and it’s only 6″. That’s, like, nothing, especially when the average white guy is around 5.75″.
I think you need to worry about Muslim and African immigrants rather than some random Asian tourists and immigrants. What are the chances that you will get gangraped in the middle of the street by an Asian?
White men + Asian Women equals this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1G4TFnHgHU
I thought this article was going to have more actual hard data about something rather than just theorizing. Hell more women could make it out because they fuck the guards…who knows?
A.V. Yader, best writer on this site.
The notion that women are more nurturing is nonsense. Women consistently demonstrate the inability to feel empathy. I don’t know about you, but if I were pregnant and could feel the baby within me, I wouldn’t be able to abort it.
Women abort babies. They have children they cannot care for. They subject their children to multiple abusive men. And worst of all drag their children along in the wake of their narcissistic and childish pursuit of “finding themselves.”
As a rule, women care for no one but themselves.
Awesome article.
Men always need to be reminded that solipsism is an inherent female trait.
As a side note. Caitlyn Jenner’s attention whore festival came just a few weeks after he killed someone in a car accident. I think he earned his Solipsism creds there and really can lay claim to being a woman.
He’s a she? If I painted black and white strips on a dog, is it a zebra?
I don’t give a shit about zebras.
This is one of the best articles I’ve read on here for a while. Thanks for this.
AV8R,
What were your parents saying when you got into that horrible relationship for 5 years with a girl who you said would not even be worth more than f-buddy status today? Did your dad try to talk you out of it, or did your mom say anything? If you could let us in on the family dynamic that was happening that would be great.
I also heard, I forget where, that North Korea favors women in any sort of business venture.
There is a book called Nothing To Envy which looks at North Korea.
The interesting thing about Christians is that there is suggestive evidence that Kim Il Sung feared them.
Why? Well his uncle was a protestant priest and he learned from that uncle how to appeal to people, adopting many preaching techniques into his speeches.
After all, Christianity in China is picking up ridiculous steam. It’s not going to totally eclipse all other spiritual life but it is certainly healthy despite being discriminated against.
Female disloyalty? Of course.
But seeing a “silver lining” in North Korea? Come the fuck on.
North Korea serves as an illustration of male/female nature.
Probably the reason women did not rule or were not included as part of a house(Like the House of David in Israel and other houses).
Point well taken. Here’s another. In our western world women are given the sole and unfettered ability to murder their unborn children, at no cost, and in secret. The men have no say in what happens or control over the outcome.
If women love their children so much why do they murder them so often?
Yes, all women are self centered, and to a staggering degree.
True. I’d rather they give men control over that decision too. Men that want the child keeps custody if she doesn’t want it but if the man doesn’t want the child he pays half for the operation and not pay child support.
That would be Solomon’s choice
Anybody watched I am Sam? A mentally retarded man fights for custody for his daughter held by cold laws and an uncaring mother. Of course that shit wont fly in the Femination these days
Damn good article, without bashing on the chicks too much. Fascinating and even a little inspiring and insightful at the end with that quote. You’ve gotta be my favourite writer on RoK, your writing always makes me cackle.
AV Yader, I’ve liked some of your writing in the past, but this is pure garbage.
It’s not really some grand redpill insight that women would crack under those horrific conditions more easily, or that it might be easier for a woman to get out (charming guards etc comes to mind).
Also, has it occured to you that implicitly, how these women could show loyalty is to stay in a miserable and unhappy state? That to escape from misery and attempt to improve your life is somehow shameful?
And most of all, it frustrates me that another human being, in particular a writer I had previously respected, would read about the horrors of North Korean refugee camps, and the general starvation and misery of society, and conclude – these hoez aint loyal.
AV Yader, either stick to the lifestyle advice and keep out of broader commentary, or disentangle yourself from the narrow bitterness that ruins this article. Even if women are all cheating with Tyrone and D’eshawn, there are still bigger things in the world. You need to grow beyond this stuff.
I think the point was that all their relatives would suffer, badly…
Concern troll banned. You will treat av8r with respect.
No matter what asian men do theyre screwed
Whaaaat?
Economic marxists lol.
I’m late to the show here which is a shame because I like AV’s articles, but there’s part of this that really hit home hard – the girl who tried to fuck up your aspirations.
I had a girlfriend in my late teens who tried to stop me training to be a software engineer because “studying was for nerds”.
Yet at the same time she was the most materialistic cow I’d ever known.
There’s a huge swathe of the female population who want all the money and status good jobs bring, with none of the boring details of how that money is made.
I despise this hypocrisy to the core
Definitely a case of “actions speaking louder than words” if a man is interested in a woman test her again and again to see what her actions are.
I do not know if this perspective is right or not. But something primal is there.
In traditional societies, women were traded off in marriage outside the tribe. They had to become members of another clan. So their interests lay in making sure relations between clans are positive. For example, so they could visit there own loved ones in their old families. But her own offspring would often not even be in her original clan.
Men were creatures of loyalty to their own tribe. They would never leave it and would fight to the death for it.
You can see the underlying wisdom of the yin yang balance. Requiring us to look after our own but also be open to the wider world.
As an English teacher overseas, I noticed that it was the girls who were far more motivated to learn English. I sensed at times almost a hostility of the dudes.
The girls had an aspiration and dreams of the world outside the tribe. My best male students were more about math, science etc.
Stuff to build up one’s own tribe.
Both men and women in this arrangement present different vices and virtues.
My point is not that men or women are better. However, I do resent the SJW simply saying, “Women gooooood. Men baaaaaad”.
Men and women are of equal value but very differentiated. I have no problem if a feminist speaks of the value of women. My problem is cultural marxists undermining the organic natural order.
“Men and women are of equal value…”
That`s not exactly true.
Boko Haram and ISIS sells women for what they are worth.
Boko Haram sells them at 12 USD a piece, while ISIS charges anywhere from between the price of packet of cigarettes, and up to a few thousand dollars.
Again, depending on their worth.
Have a nice day.
Personally I think the only women who can be loyal are super religious, ‘virgin until marriage’ types.
2 Corenthians 5:17
“Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.”
A genguine believer will change and become more like Jesus. Therefore a believer will more likely to show loyalty, honor, and compassion.
Orthodox Jews are virgins until marriage.
It is really very humbling and exceedingly special to know that I never shared that intimate experience with anyone else but my husband. He feels the same way.
So you’re a jew? A little better than being a christian but still hateful and willfully ignorant. Not to mention stupid. Do you let Mother Goose stories influence your vote too?
Pity that you have absolutely no understanding of the history of Western Civilization.
But then your gross ignorance does have some small entertainment value, so thank you for being such a wonderfully tragic joke.
I almost pity the poor vile fool like yourself who has no comprehension of what there is to fear. You are like a petulant child, who covers his eyes and thinks that just because he cannot see what is right in front of him, means it does not exist!!!
Says the person who believes in god. Okay, delusional little girl.
Pity you have no understanding of the internet. Again, zealot – you don’t get to call ANYONE ignorant.
No, Cupcake, I get to call you ignorant because to do so is to speak the truth. Do you deny the influence of Christianity on the development of Western Civilization?
No, I don’t. A lot of things influenced Western civilization. Doesn’t automatically make them good.
Agreed.
Avoid the atheist-hookers like the bubonic plague.
“But the vast majority of these women are just quitters who are thinking
of no one but themselves: everyone else be damned, “I gotta get mine,”
and whoever is standing in my way is little more than collateral damage;
merely a drop in the old bucket. This is the prevailing attitude, in a
nutshell.”
Once a man understand this, he is ready to begin his life. If he never gets it, he is like a child wandering through Disneyland, believing that Mickey Mouse is real.
Very good article. This can be seen in Germany as well. Link below. Basically women in the former East Germany leave their families behind and head to West Germany. For better career opportunities and better husbands. Female hypergamy at work.
http://dw.de/p/Aos6
Except it’s legal to leave East Germany now.
Their universal nature.
*****BEER vs SEX*****
If sex didn’t feel good, it is doubtful that any man would ever pursue it, not even with his own hand. But because it is pleasurable, some in history have been reported to go so far as screwing goats if women were unavailable.
It’s kind of like beer. If beer didn’t contain alcohol, the shit frankly tastes nasty, like piss and it is doubtful anyone would drink it. Because of the alcohol buzz, you acquire a taste for it. I myself can’t argue with the taste of a cold one and I can slam it quicker than straight water on a hot day, bubbles and all. The alcohol plays tricks on my brain which in turn plays tricks on my tastebuds telling them that piss taste is good.
It is the same with women and their wacky nature. You gain a tolerance for their shit because the esteem maintained by staring a beauty in the face while dumping in her and not a goat. Even if a goat smelled like a PTA meeting on the rich side of town, the sight of a goat the morning after would send me to the E.R. Avoid PTA meetings. Some of them really are goats.
Great article, Brother Av8er.
Long time no see. Hope all is well with you.
Regarding loyalty:
Before that is even an issue, you`ll need to find a girl who is a Virgin.
So a cool thing to do – if you`re asking a girl out for a first date, would be to take her to a gynecologist for a virginity-test, on your first date.
“Right, here we are, I`ll just wait here in the hall :-),
And if all goes well and the Doc says you`re not a whore, we`ll be heading for dinner in about 20 minutes. Good luck …! ”
If she refuses, well she evidently has something to hide and she`s not for you.
If she says “Great! I`ve saved myself for marriage, so 1 virginity-test coming up positive! ..”
Then you`ll have something to build on.
Again Brother Av8er, hope all is good with you.
FIREWING
“I was cheated on while working the first flying job that routinely kept me away from home. My ex made the assumption that I was cheating on her all the time while I was off working, which couldn’t have been further from the truth.”
Its called gender myopia, women see men through their own lens. A woman will hang around other men to “make a man jealous” thinking it will increase his desire for her, when it is usually the opposite. But women assume we see the world as they do (men do it too ie. sending dick pics to women, women aren’t turned on by this type of behaviour in general). Women would cheat on you if they had an opportunity to fly all over the world like that. So they assume you’d do it too. The concept of you being loyal doesn’t enter their head. They don’t understand loyalty. Loyalty is a male value, women wine about all their female friends stabbing them in the back and screwing them over all the time.
“She also strongly discouraged me from pursuing a career as a pilot in the first place. I, of course, was of the opinion that she could go fuck herself if she thought that she was going to crush my dreams and aspirations—dreams and aspirations that, had she not screwed up, would have paid off for her in a major way in the long run. The takeaway from that relationship and the consequent suffering I endured was that I wasn’t discerning with my choice in a partner. I was more of an idealist than a realist. It wasn’t her fault that she cheated on me—it was my fault for getting wrapped up with a low-life piece of shit in the first place.”
Women are dream killers, they constantly kill your dreams and happiness but will run away from everything to be happy. Women will divorce their husband and leave their kids to “be happy”.
As for not discerning your partner, you are right and wrong. The problem is women HIDE their true selves so it makes it doublely hard to find out who they are, it usually takes a long time to figure out their true rotten nature. It doesn’t help that men do tend to be idealist, we want to hope this one is not like that she is different and won’t screw me. It is like business, the partner might seem great at first, but when the person shows signs of shittiness we want to overlook it. But typically the sign is just a warning sign of who they really are. Thus, its not enough to meet someone, things go good and assume they are good. We have to constantly re-evaluate is this person good or evil and pulling the wool
SPAM ABOVE THIS POST^^^^
This is normal for women. It is amazing how this news seems as such a surprise.
Hey A.V. Yader, thanks for the very immersive, informative, and soul-shedding article you wrote. I can always relate as well as learn a few things from your columns man.
Except, over half of the defectors from the DPKR defect from, imagine this, prison camps. Which means they’re already in three-generation punishment and have no further family to be punished, and no way to make it any worse or any better. But that’s too much actual facts for your tiny brain, isn’t it.
How do you defect from a prison camp if you’re unable to leave?
It’s called escaping. It’s a common thing from prisions world wide. North Korea is no exception to escapes from prision and may in fact lead the world in escapees.
Wow I was going to leave this alone but I have to comment. One may ask if these women refugees are so devoid of virtue to abandon their families to the wolves then where are the men in response to this reaction. Specifically why don’t they fight back? Now I know what you are going to say. But KT that would be certain suicide. Well no. Suicide is defined as the destroying of one’s self only with the intention of ending one’s own life. Fighting an unwinnable battle wouldn’t be suicide it would be a death with honor. It is the responsibility for men to right the wrongs of their society by putting their lives at risk if such a life without resistance is not worth living. The DPRK is an isolated, Chinese government subsidized basket case of a country. It wouldn’t take much to topple it over however a war with North Korea and a subsequent Cold War II with China are costs that the U.S. and other NATO countries don’t want to pay especially with our current administration that has a reputation for alienating our allies and embracing our enemies. But on an individual basis, if I was a man living in North Korea I would look at my family and say to them you are already involved in this fight so pick up your weapons weather it me axes, sticks, rocks, and spears and take out as many of those bastards as you can because that’s what I’m about to do right now.
Hmm, all the other authors in ROK keep talking about how much better Asian women are then Western women. Looks like they need to quit pushing that whole idea from reading this article on Korean women.
The treatment of refugees from DPRK is verty overstated, according to ‘what north koreans think about themselves’ (“how north koreans see themselves”) – basically most refugees who go into China go back into DPRK, which implies the DPRK bordr guards dont give too much of a shit. Also, foreign media penetrates into DPRK very thoroughly (there’s DPRK propaganda showing south koreans with their dvds and tvs and stuff but reaching out for then – leader kim jong il). I have a feeling a lot of those cases of picking up people for foreign media are basically ‘looking for an excuse to throw you in jail’
Be better than your enemies, and better than her alternatives. If at all possible, just THE BEST. Then you don’t have to fear about her loyalty. That’s what this being a man is about, after all: being the invader, not being the loser who lost the girl at the hand of the enemy.
She betrays you because you suck. Just a men ditch her, because she sucks.
Obviously, this is not symmetric for both genders: society can afford fewer extraordinary men who are consistently better their enemies and need not worry about betrayal, than hot wimminz. So a few will have a lot (inequality everywhere). The rest will have betrayal, will hate women, will say “they are all treacherous bitches”, which is somewhat easier to swallow than admitting to one’s own suckage.
I’m not sure what you’re saying; are you saying that an entire three generations of a North Korean family suck because a woman from their family defected?
What you’re saying can apply in some areas, but definitely not in this area. People can’t help that they were born into a horrible country like North Korea.