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Nationalism Is A Trap

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More people are coming to the truthful conclusion that globalism is a failure and nationalism, where a country’s people and interests are valued above that of non-citizens, is the way forward. A problem is that the globalism-nationalism framework is exactly the type of dialectic elites can use to usher in a global war or crackdown to further increase their power.

Imagine there is a wife who is tired of her husband going out every night with his friends to drink. Instead of nagging at him every evening, which would have the effect of motivating him to leave the house even sooner, she will wait until he gets into a drunk driving accident or serious bar fight so she could “draw the line” and make the reasonable ultimatum for him to never drink again. The husband is more likely to listen to her after something wrong takes place than after he had a safe night out.

Right now the nationalist movement is being allowed to gain strength so that a future event can act as a trigger for globalists to “draw the line” on the movement by imprisoning or killing its strongest members. In other words, globalists plan to use nationalism as a trap, a device they transform into to their advantage. As of right now, the budding nationalist movement is extremely useful in allowing them to identify all “resisters” before easily crushing them when the time is right.

Elites cannot advance their plans without a dialectic

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The way the elites move an agenda forward is through a dialectic, meaning that two opposing ideologies rub against each other, create friction, and from that comes a desired result (i.e. “order from chaos”). Those in power either control or monitor the existence of both sides to guide and bend the dialectic to serve their ends.

The recent rise in nationalism, I speculate, has been allowed because previous dialectics such as capitalism vs communism and democracy vs terrorism are no longer useful in advancing the desired agenda. Soviet Communism is dead and increased terrorism did not allow planned wars in Syria and Iran to proceed like 9/11 did with Iraq and Afghanistan. In addition, the white vs black race war is years late, stubbornly resistant to the gasoline that Obama pours onto the fire. A new dialectic must be nurtured, and so nationalism may just do the trick. Hillary’s recent alt right speech officially debuted American nationalism as the new “enemy.”

While your conclusion that nationalism is logical and beneficial to a nation is true, and I’m sure to agree with it, you were guided onto those beliefs. How did you arrive at nationalist thought? Through decades of free trade, feminism, and open-door immigration that have worn you and your country down. Your arrival at nationalist conclusions is the direct result of globalism, which means that nationalist thoughts exist in your mind only because of the likes of George Soros, who pulled out a million Muslims from his hat and placed them in Europe while sponsoring a multitude of social justice organizations in the United States. His actions and behavior, along with other powerful globalists like him, have essentially created your very ideology, because you are entrenched in a dialectic where opposing forces must exist and be in combat with each other.

The growth of nationalism is “useful”

Nationalism must continue to grow in power right before the moment it can threaten globalist banking and geopolitical interests, and when it does, the globalists will clamp down severely on it. As if replaying World War 2, they will identify a nationalist country as the big bad bully, and then use that country as an excuse to start a war that will simultaneously weed out nationalists throughout the world by sending them to die or having them arrested at home for “subversion” or “treason.” Russia is the evil nationalist country that neocons and others have been poking, and even Poland is being puffed up into an “undemocratic” country in order to hedge their bets.

A hint that this may already be taking place is that France recently called upon “patriots” to serve in their National Guard to “protect citizens.” Since when does France care about patriots? They have committed no consistent actions in the past decade that suggest they do care, so we must reasonably conclude that this new army is a trap to attract nationalists into a game where the end result is their death. I wouldn’t be surprised if France’s beefed-up army is used to start a war in a place like Poland, which will be painted as an aggressor that caused “economic attacks” upon the saintly Western Europeans.

As long as you’re in the dialectic, which I see as a sort of Twilight Zone creation of the mega rich, you’re fighting on their terms. They need the nationalist “grassroots” uprising to create violent events that allow them to re-assert control and power. Even though nationalism may be the most sane movement of the day, it still plays into their hands as long as we insist on having only two sides of the debate, good and evil, as if we were living in a Hollywood-style storyline. Instead of this two-dimensional arrangement, the solution may be to go 3D, where you can move front and back and around in a spectrum of ideas, instead of just left and right where you’re a pawn of the game no matter what side you pick.

Just because a nationalist “resistance” is growing, doesn’t mean that that the globalists in power are being hurt. Without being able to effectively control the Western population through the Cold War, terrorism, racial divide-and-conquer, or modern Russian aggression, they are hoping that the nationalist movement grows enough to create the conflict that moves their chess pieces forward. While I’m not urging you to throw away your nationalist beliefs, as I surely won’t throw away mine, it is clear to me that a trap is waiting to be sprung, and we will all suffer when it’s finally launched.

This article was originally published on Roosh V. 

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568 thoughts on “Nationalism Is A Trap”

  1. The exact same argument could be used as a caution against the author’s own increased exposure and profile.
    This article smacks of defeatism. “Don’t try, because your own exertions may be used against you. Don’t rebel – your defiance will be used as an excuse to crack down on you. Don’t resist – your resistance will make you easily identifiable so you can be removed.”
    Well with all due respect, F***K that attitude.

    1. Hopefully it’s meant to be a worst case analysis with a suppressed optimism that it won’t be the ultimate outcome. But, yeah, there’s a real damned-if-you-do damned-if-you-don’t vibe about this piece.
      The conclusion is dark and unsettling. ‘Let’s keep doing it, even though it’s a trap and going to turn out bad’.

        1. You don’t have to be a genius to know that the globo-homo establishment is opposed to Nationalism. Every Tom, Dick, and Harry knows that, which is why they voted for Trump. As for false flags, I think it’s too late for that. They already played their hand, and millions still voted for Trump. Most red blooded Americans don’t listen to the establishment narrative anymore because it’s played out and there are more alternatives than has ever existed in history. Wikileaks alone has pulled their pants down and exposed them for what they are; a bunch of crooks and liars. The only people who will believe a false flag narrative at this point are die hard leftist degenerate freaks, and you can’t build a coalition around that.

        2. I don’t know, as reactionary as this lot are I think: “Look over there, it’s a pink -tailed misogynist!” and subsequently cheating while their back is turned is still a viable tactic. And if that fails, we can always bonk them over the head with something heavy.

        3. If the move toward nationalism is real, and isn’t interrupted by some extraordinary event, it might be likely to be a generation or two before those that would seek to hijack it or ‘spring a trap’ could feasibly do so. Which might be nice for all of us alive today, since the next move will be for our grandchildren and great-grandchildren to worry about and deal with.

        4. Don’t forget that Hillary won the popular vote, and half of Americans didn’t even bother this time around. I’m also basking in the glory of this historic victory, but things always take a turn for the worse when you get cocky and too comfortable.

        6. Yes, over 2 million more voted for Hillary. I believe Trump when he says that if there were no stupid Electoral College, he would have won with an even bigger margin, because he would have campaigned in New York and California where many Trump supporters didn’t even bother because their vote doesn’t count. But still, America is a very divided country. Considering the direction our culture and values have shifted, I would be very wary of wanting a strong nationalism in the US.
          Can you imagine what these freaks would do with the power of the state behind them? When the majority of the nation supports gay marriage, trannies, women riding the cock carousel for years and sport fucking like alpha men, I would be very concerned about what a strong nationalist USA looks like in 20 years. I’ve seen their protests, and they are violent, angry, and aggressive. I don’t want to see them given the authority of the institution of government also. 4 or even 8 years of Trump won’t make them give up their beliefs; it may even embolden them.

        8. Wasn’t there some mention that a significant number of ballots were cast by deceased and ineligible non-citizens? Wonder about the tally should that be so and removed from the count…

        9. I don’t know for sure regarding the hows and the whys, but I smelled a major rat when Trump was up by a fairly sizable amount in the popular vote, late on November 8th, and then, boom, “all of the mail-in ballots, gee, gosh-golly, suddenly THOSE are going Hillary’s way”. File that one under statistically fucking impossible. Thus, a rig job.

        10. Hey! She was the most voted for candidate in graveyards around the world! And the illegal immigrants turned out in mass for her!

    2. That’s not the message I came away with. There’s nothing wrong with mindful caution, which I believe was the meat of the article. Since when does truth have to be packaged in a way that’s consistently appealing to positive emotion?
      I’m not arguing about whether the article has the truth locked down. I’m saying in this open marketplace of ideas, what was presented has merit even if the fruit doesn’t taste sweet.
      Seeing Trump win the election looks like a positive thing. Looking at the rising tide of open expression of nationalism in Europe (Brexit & Hungary) seems to have a similar effect. But it’s wise to be aware of who pulls the strings & how & why & when.

  2. This is too conspiratorial. While it is likely there are some (((elites))) who are hoping for and actively planning a false flag event to blame on Nationalism, that is a far cry from the elites having actual control over the myriad Nationalist movements across The West. In fact, all evidence points to the contrary after witnessing how absolutely shocked and oblivious the establishment was to the rise of Trump. They were high on their own supply right up until election night. We shouldn’t give these (((elites))) undue credit. Even Soros made a huge error with the BLM riots, which instead of creating sympathy for social justice and shit tier negros, created more Trump voters instead. Now before we get all super conspiratorial and claim that Soros did this knowing that it would lead to a Trump victory, let’s at least wait to see what Trump’s policies are. Again, the (((elites))) aren’t as clever as some might think. They have a lot of money and influence, but that doesn’t make them Gods.

    1. Yes – for every action theres an equal and opposite reaction – making it very difficult to control or plan anything long term. They try to steer and influence but clearly its not worked very well.

  3. Just as the Democrats placed dopplegangers at Trump rallies to instigate violence and make Trump supporters look dangerous and irrational (as Project Veritas had shown), it’s possible that similar phenomena will continue to happen. Disentangling spontaneous actions and controlled actions becomes almost impossible.

    1. It’s an unsettling sign of the times that when typing “It’s a trap!” in to Google to find such memes results in a fraction returning the good Admiral.

      1. I guess the fact of the matter is that we’re caught in a trap. I can’t walk out. Because I love you too much baby.

        4. Well, I can’t watch parent trap tonight because my sisters husband smacked her around and now I need to get in my car and race to her house on the causeway.

        6. I’m not certain how to respond…
          On the one hand: your life = not my business.
          On the other: I’m an incurable smartass so,
          I hope you are driving a white Mustang.
          EDIT: Still haven’t seen any Godfather movies.

        7. but if I go I will get gunned down at the toll booth because…..IT’S A TRAP!

  6. This is a good article, however, it presents a sort of conundrum. Even if we never grow violent as a community TPTB will create false flag attacks and blame nationalism. They will attempt to bait us into violence but if they fail they will create their own and blame us anyway.
    That being said, the only way our movement grows from a good idea to a new way of life is a massive revolution. We’ll have to tear down the establishment brick by brick in a sort of “Hipsters” vs “Hillbillies” style war. What that really means is we get one chance.
    We have to build a large enough group of nationalists that we can contest the establishment before they manage to snuff us out. I’m anti-war but it would be naive to think anything short of it will bring about a return of kings.

  7. Liberals are not that smart. They are opportunists. They look at the situation as it is and exploit. Consequences be damned. That being said, we can’t give them anything to exploit.

  8. Nationalism at its core is an illogical emotional faith based on geographic proximity, or sometimes racial homogeneity. I say illogical because instead of rationally considering an idea, nationalism instructs one to go with the flow and support what the local community wants. When one stops judging ideas based on their merit or rationality, and gives credence to “if someone near me likes it, it must be good” this is flawed logic, and when taken to extremes, can convince populations into making all sorts of harmful decisions.
    When I think of nationalism, I think of the individual nations of Europe, who, around 100 years ago, represented the pinnacle of western civilization. They became tribal and belligerent, and went to war with each other over petty disputes that ended up destroying the monarchies and patriarchal system in most of those nations in the Great War. World War 2 a few years later finished the job.
    Since then Democracy and mob rule have led the world, and socially these nations have all began to crumble.
    Of course, one could rightly criticize the opposite–if those nations had just completely surrendered their identities, and become globalist “every tribal African is equal to every civilized European” that would also be a terrible idea.
    I view the argument of nationalism vs globalism the same way I do Democrat vs Republican. My answer is no. Both are dangerous, bad, and wrong answers.
    Bond together on similar ideals. Using religion, or custom, or patriarchy, or law, or philosophy, or culture. But not on geography or political state.
    Look at what ROK has created. A group of strong, reasoned, self-bettering, cohesive men who share common goals, ideals, and beliefs. We come from dozens if not hundreds of nations. Is our bond any weaker than the bond I’m supposed to feel to Washington DC or my fellow countryman in San Francisco? If anything I’d argue the opposite.
    Isn’t this why there was strong, coordinated international reaction to the possibility that we meet each other?
    And indeed, the 1900 European states had much in common: culture, religion, way of life, customs, holidays, economic trade. By rejecting both nationalism and globalism, they could retain their individual pride in their communities, and bond together as a common people with shared beliefs, that formed a united front against dangerous outside threats.

    1. America was plenty nationalistic in 1830. Seemed to work.

      1. But those immigrants expanded and expanded. And the ultimate result is the situation that you have today.

        1. It was a controlled immigration policy. Which I have no problem with. We didn’t even accept immigrants at all from the 20’s until 1965, actually. Ted Kennedy’s little present to us basically opened the borders to people who have no fucking clue what individual liberty and responsibility are about, who vote socialist as a rule.
          Your claim is goofy on its face. A cave man chipped away at a rock and developed the first spear tip 120,000 thousand years ago. And the ultimate result is the situation that we have today.
          See how that’s kind of a silly frame?

        2. Your reasoning is specious.
          Yes one group of immigrants controlled another after effectively wiping out the indigenous population.

        3. That’s what war is about Bob. When you win, you win. And the indigenous population fell precisely because they had no concept of “we’re in this together” with other AmerInds AND they had no borders or immigration laws.
          So yeah. There you go. Heh.

        4. Those immigrants also had a lot more in common with the WASP folks than not. Whereas Islam is completely alien, Asians and those South of the Border are alien as well, though slightly less so

        6. The reason was, in 1960 America was 90% White. That’s what made that country great. The same with the old Europe. Now that masses from the third world are flooding in it, everything is collapsing. You can’t have a first world country with third world people.

  9. Poland and France are members of the EU. They will not be going to war against each other.
    For those of you who think that Nationalism is a good idea, consider how well it worked out for Germany and other countries in the Forties.

        1. WWII was a war, and like any war had winners and losers. Germany was hardly the only nation to “use” nationalism. USSR used blatant appeals to nationalism (the patriotic duty to Mother Russia), so did Britain, and so did the U.S. when it was attacked. Your example is poorly reasoned, lacking perception and therefore useless. Many countries have utilized nationalism successfully to achieve independence or throw off the yoke of oppression from Empires. India’s emerging nationalism gave it strength it had never had before to break away from the British Empire – during “the Forties”, no less.

        2. How is citing the nationalism in the major nations involved in WW2 disproving the harms of nationalism?

        3. Actually the fundamental focus of the USSR was International Communism, hence the conflict with first Germany and later the US.
          You make grandiose claims absent evidence.

        4. He was speaking of during the war, and he is correct. Most of us have read history Bob, we know precisely the propaganda tools and methods that the USSR appealed to, since their own internationalism wasn’t really doing the trick.

        5. Thanks Ghost but I read his post. Germany was a nightmare before the war. Did you read that history?
          I also recommend that you let people speak for themselves.

        6. Actually the demise of the USSR was due to nationalism. So I guess nationalism worked out pretty well for Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Armenia, Georgia, Moldova, Turkmenistan, Kazakhstan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, et. al. – and all the nations of the Eastern Block.
          Also, the “fundamental focus” of International Communism by the USSR was explicitly rescinded with the death of Stalin.

        8. Yeah Bob, I did. Meanwhile, until WW2 hit, Finland was a paradise, and they were nationalist. So yeah, anyway…

        9. Well, actually, more like Germany wanting to be one nation again. Wait….what’s that called when people want that? The word is right on the tip of my tongue…

        10. I wish they’d stuck to the name ‘Prussia’ though. I’ve always had this eccentric need to see something written as ‘Prussia vs Russia’.

        11. Prussians. Another group who started hard core, but who became insufferable idiots near the end of the time that they disappeared.

        3. Oh? So the 94 million people here out of work due to our open borders policy just aren’t being individualistic enough? Huh. I’ll get the word out to them.

        5. I’m being serious. Globalism demands open borders and nations giving up sovereignty over their own policies. We now have almost half of all eligible to work adults unemployed. While some would be regardless, a lot of them are out in the cold thanks to globalist policies having a bad effect on our economy.

        6. Both Globalism (International Communism) and Nationalism (Domestic Socialism) are manifest failures. I prefer Liberty.

        7. Nationalism is not an economic policy Bob. It’s a rider you tack onto a socio-economic idea. One can be a feudalist and a nationalist, a capitalist and a nationalist, a socialist and a nationalist or a communist and a nationalist.
          Your answer didn’t even address my observation. Rest assured however, that I expected you to evade the point. Which is fine I guess.

        8. Your observation is not material to the discussion. The “bugbear” Globalism is merely a focus for the dissatisfied masses.
          Nationalism is a trap remember?

        9. Ah, evasion, of course.
          Anyway, yeah, globalism is a bugbear. I’ll let the 94 million unemployed know that Bob. They appreciate your concern.

        11. its a bit simplistic and tribal to assume that everyone in a specific geographical location shares the same values. Especially after 3 centuries of mass migration and 5 decades of cheap jet travel.

        12. You know, you’re not even an effective troll. I’m the only one who has answered you. Find some other line of work, mate.

        1. Kind of like name-calling which I see you’ve done several times already.
          How about we leave that kind of idiocy to the SJW’s? 🙂
          EDIT: Or how about I know who the heck I’m responding to first?? 😀 😀

        3. Er… Hah! Yes I have. That’s hilarious! I’m actually responding to you on a bunch of other topics.
          Sorry about that. Sometimes I think it’s better if I don’t respond to 10 people from 20 different websites all at once. 🙂

    5. The kick/pushback is that people wish to be governed locally. They are tired of being sacrificed for the good of oligarchs in foreign capitals. Nationalism means that their national governments look out for the welfare of their own citizens first and foremost. Nationalism doesn’t need to be combined with aggressive militaristic conquest. It is the socialism part of National Socialism that harmed Italy and Germany, not merely a national pride in one’s own country and a demand that the government acknowledge the citizens.

      1. Yes but it assumes everyone in your country agrees with you, which they don’t. This fact leads to serious conflict.

        1. If the conflict is serious enough then it will be done as civil war, otherwise a representative democracy hammers out the differences. Federalism that leaves most of the decisions to the lowest level, or local, governance is best. This makes the government more responsive to their citizens and those they govern.

        2. Nationalism pretty much ensures that the conflict will be a horrific civil war. You are merely replacing one form of nightmarish socialism with another.

        3. Having a government that ignores the will, needs, and desires of its citizenry and instead governs from an international body is a sure way to get a revolution. Nationalism makes sure the citizenry are adhered to.

        5. In what way? That men cannot govern themselves? That they must be ruled by an distant an unelected oligarchy/bureaucracy? If men have a say, they are less likely to need to resort to violence to exercise their political will. This is exactly the original system that the founders of the American government produced.
          If ever that government stops looking out for the welfare and rights of its citizens you have things like the Declaration of Independence, and the consent of the governed.

        6. Once he is on the losing end of the argument, he starts pulling that kind of thing. Really, once you nail the argument, the best course of action is to walk away.

    6. Because yeah, the Nazis are the only ones who ever did nationalism.

        1. And Rome had a Republic which was taken over by a series of dictators, who ran the vast multi-cultural empire into the ground.
          See how that works Bob?

        2. Not Nationalism though, either before or after the Empire.
          You went back 2000 years to find an example that doesn’t back your… dreams.

        3. Well… some of those emperors were incredible and turned it into a real empire. Not too bad to go from a dysfunctional republic to a mega power. In the beginning anyway.
          😉

        4. Not quite for Italy. Remember the Risorgimento? (Because I’m sure you were there. :-D)
          That was nationalism and had a very positive effect.

        8. Right. A multi-cult empire, now dead and defunct, who couldn’t even attract it’s own citizens to fight for it, near the end.
          Yay non-nationalism!

        10. And then into a nation of weak, flaccid men (the celts mocked them for this, near the end of their empire) who couldn’t even muster enough enthusiasm to repel the invading Goths. That worked out dandy!

        12. I know you old timers have a hard time remembering…. 😉 😉
          But it’s been -some- time since the Risorgimento. 🙂

        14. That was expansionism. Then came Imperialism. And from there we got to stupidism – the concept of attaching an ism to every damn thing under the sun.
          Er.. sorry. Minor lapse there. 😀 😀

        16. But but but but.
          Rome was a multi-cult paradise whose only recognition of borders was “your borders are now mine”. A giant swarming cesspool of every type of humanity under one giant leering umbrella (assuming parasols leer, of course), corrupt and stagnant and ultimately rotten to the core from its own degeneracy and lack of cohesiveness.
          But hey, we still have the ruins to look at. They’re neato!

        18. Personally, I think Rome just went underground…and popped back up as the Roman Catholic Church. But those ruins are indeed neato.

        19. Um… yeah, and the Romans were also aliens because they built freaking awesome buildings that we can’t seem to manage today.
          Well, and there was the whole citizen thing… 😉

        20. They are one and the same. Both started by evil patriarchal societies to keep the rest of the world mired in poverty and injustice.
          Or… that’s how the history “TA” explained it. 😀

        21. I like the Roman Republic actually. And some of their dictators weren’t that bad. But generally, they fell under their own weight. Once everybody could say “I am a Roman”, then Rome ceased to have any meaning.

        22. I’ve posited the theory before that we’re just the continuation of the Roman Empire. Just a hypothesis. Egypt had a civilization stretching 4000 consecutive years. I suspect somebody 100 years in wouldn’t even recognize Egypt as being “the same” 2000 years down the line, but it was.
          As to Rome, we use their alphabet, most of our governments are set up by the standards that they developed, our civil service comes directly from their concept of it, we use their architecture and other items and we even have a freaking post office (developed initially by Rome).

        23. Oh, you mean like equating Nationalism to Nazis is oversimplifying things, Bob?

        24. I would imagine, having as much power as “they” did (the Romans), they had enough time and brainpower to plan a nice little exit/morphing strategy. Your points make this connect-the-dots notion even more feasible.

        25. How’s British style multiculturalism has been working so far? Not particularly a Liberal Paradise I imagine

        28. Absolutely correct. They lost it eventually but wow were they something at the height.

  10. Of all the isms out there, I have the keenest affinity for isolationism. Habitually, I attempt to isolate myself from as many fucktards as possible…

  11. Good article Roosh. I can not advise this enough but use discernment for the next few months. The mass grouping with Alt Right with Hitler has been comical and had little verifiable aspects to it. However with the new label of Alt Right, more groups are coming out of the woodworks including groups nominating themselves as White Power activists. As someone who has stayed away from Black Power activism in all forms, this is a serpent you want to behead early.
    As a group we are collectively on the right path, but the retooling and rebranding of turning this movement into a new face for Fascism has been mostly heralded by the left, but growing dissenters and degenerates are utilizing the slogan for hate. If there is anything we need to do is control the phrase before the degenerates and paid actors ensure we are worse than when Trump was just a presidential nominee.

    1. This times a thousand. I’ve already witnessed several “Alt Righters” coming out and doing everything but goose step and scream sieg heil. This needs to be nipped in the bud without prejudice.

    2. Ever since I first heard the term ‘alt-right’, I’ve never been able to pin down exactly what it means. All I see is a complete clusterfuck of groups trying to either claim it, or otherwise define it (usually to create a villain and target it). I can neither count myself among nor defend something I can’t define with reasonable precision.
      I’d sooner just ignore the whole thing, but I suspect a lot of people here would reject that approach.

      1. Yeah, I think technically we’re not Alt Right. At least as far as I understand it and as Roosh himself has written. Nationalism != necessarily mean alt right, and vice versa.

      2. it’s pretty simple. Whites have been getting shit on for the past half century or so by the political elites. We’d be much better off without other races, with the exception of maybe east Asians. It’s a natural and healthy response.

      3. I would like to ignore it, but if February’s ROK meetup taught me anything, it was the necessity of severing anything that is against you before it gains any traction. The Alt Right movement has gotten a lot of traction and many articles written here by white men who are proud to be white, can be linked back to that movement. The sooner we can distance ourselves from that air of bigotry the better.
        The scramble to define it is the biggest worry I have on this end. We have everything from Tila “I’all spread my ass for anyone” Tequila throwing up seig hail symbols, to some hick inbreds looking to drown a black kid in the sticks of Illinois, and white supremacists groups coming out left and right using both Alt Right and Trump as there Call to arms. We’re forced to choose a side since we can’t claim victory in a Trump election while openly railing against the media. The only alternative is to be distance ourselves from the Alt Right as well or come up with a definition that suits our collective better.

        1. Leftists don’t bother themselves with such nuances like consistency. They have this special ability to completely ignore it. Take, for example, a protester holding a sign, and a violent protester standing behind him throwing bricks through the windows of a local business. A reporter can walk up and ask the guy holding the sign “why are you guys out here causing all this destruction?” The sign-holder will point to the window-smasher and reply “What, him? He isn’t with our group. We’re just here peacefully expressing our rights.”
          But then, they never get called on it, either.
          So if what you are describing is accurate, it’s all just various flavors of white supremacy. Distinguishing between them doesn’t seem necessary. Distancing seems wise, although it might not be heard. I don’t think those looking at us and making a presumption of guilt by association will pick a better tack just because their current one isn’t true. I’ll have to think about it some more. The media isn’t going to help, and what seems to matter is what ‘everyone else’ believes is the truth. Public perception, I suppose.

    3. True. Once you win, suddenly ‘friends’ you didn’t know you had start crawling up from the sewers & pits. Never around when you’re fighting uphill but once you’ve captured the castle….
      Well put, Red.

  13. I have no doubt that thh glonalists are regrouping, and they have plenty of tricks up their sleeves. What I don’t like is the defeatist talk that implies we are absolutely powerless and the elites are all powerful.

    1. Fuckng right that’s what they do! “Regroup” and come up with the next outlandishly outrageuos BS!

  14. Video of Dr. Jordan Peterson going head to head in public debate at University of Toronto with a lawyer and SJW Professor over Bill C-16 (which legislates that university staff must address students by their preferred gender-pronoun… whatever they choose it to be).

    The only reasonable point against Peterson in this whole debate was the first rebuttal saying that he misinterpreted the legalities of Bill C-16. But to be honest I did not really understand what she was claiming that he misinterpreted, the legalese was over my head.
    Everything else they threw at him was demonstrably false. For example, the idea that biological sex and sociological gender have no causal relationship is simply not accepted by serious psychologists. The idea that males and females have no distinct psychological characteristics as a result of their biological sex is not correct.
    She tried to debunk academic psychological experimentation as “quasi-scientific” because we cannot manipulate a human’s genetic makeup in order to run a true experiment. But there are loads of animal studies, tonnes of quasi-experimental evidence (e.g., twin studies, tests comparing males and females on a particular dependent variable), psychophysical evidence, and so on that show that men and women are different along a number of dimensions. Her claims should not be taken on faith, and should require evidence.
    His central point however did not require loads of peer-reviewed journals to back it up. His point stood on its own argumentative grounds… that Bill C-16 represents a slippery slope in legislature in that it is the first Bill to enforce what people must say (not what must not be said), and that it pre-supposes a modern ideology that has not shown itself to be proven valid using any conventional means of evaluating truth.
    If anything, this Bill itself represents post-truth (a term the competing debaters used) and is thus a threat to the underlying systems and mechanisms that hold our society together. This Bill is a threat because it deligitimizes the criteria that we normally use to discriminate between ideas and policies that are grounded in principles that lead to social success as it has been conventionally defined (i.e., reducing violence, maintaining freedom from tyranny, etc.).
    People often misunderstand that post-modernity should not be simply regarded as a philosophy for the modern world, but rather an epistemological crisis. Once we lose all grounds for determining truth, chaos can be begin to ensue, and there will be no grounds upon which to legitimately fight against it. The post-chaos world that these people are ushering in will lead to a Darwinian fight for survival, and after looking at enough of these “SJW” people, they will be the ones least prepared for it.

    1. I’m a big fan of Peterson. It may be you who turned me on to him. It’s a sad waste that bright minds like his must be devoted to, at best, preserving the status quo we’ve had for centuries, instead of towards studying or developing new ideas, but I’m glad he has the cojones to do so.

  15. I find defeatism rather sour on the palette. Every movement I’ve ever seen does this. The moment they start to see victory, they start throwing out shady conspiracies about how it’s all a ruse, blah blah blah.
    Human beings are not that elegant and not everything is controlled by some secret cabal of, apparently, magical wizards who control reality behind the scenes. Movements happen all on their own, and counter movements rise to meet them. This is the way of history. Needing some nefarious evil force in the background is silly.
    Nationalism will win as long as we stay committed to it. Starting the “Gosh, if we’re winning it must really mean that we’re being controlled” schtick doesn’t cut it.
    Sometimes, a cigar is just a cigar.

    1. Basically, the right was losing for far too much time it cannot recognize a win. Nationalism has the capacity to thwart Globalism and even pull back many of its ills, though it cannot quartantee safety in the long term as the possible rise of a global creed could start the process that lead to the modern situation from the begining, a pan-european empire would be the best solution. But back to nations again is a step to that.

      1. It just bothers me how predictable this is. I’ve watched many, many movements go through this. As you say, they cannot recognize a win, so when one happens, it must mean that “THEY!” let it happen and thus the movement is compromised and hey, let’s just abandon this ship right now!

        1. Maybe the takeaway should be more about keeping an eye out and our wits about us instead of going back to napping or spending too long basking in the glow? And also not to be too hasty to give them an excuse to blame us, or letting their false flag attempts off the hook.
          (I’m trying to improve on the whole devil’s advocate thing, since I’m terrible at it).

        2. If the article had that tone, then I’d agree. In fact, I do agree with you generally. But the article gives us very clear language that this is “a trap”. Which implies a trap-ee and a trapper. The same silly paradigm I’ve seen so many movements flounder on once they started gaining momentum.

        7. I don’t think so. At its core, fatalism was nothing more than a person noting that he is dying on a given day, and that nothing he did to prevent it would give him one extra minute on the planet, nor could anything he could do to hasten it would keep him from traveling to that goal. In a nutshell anyway.

        8. Not at all. If anything, this is a call to stay on with a movement that seems to have won. The truth is that we have not, and now we need to form up and start taking neomasculinity seriously. The worst excesses of feminism will be curbed, but the underlying rot is still there, and nothing less than a total overhaul of our system of government will undo it.

        9. I have to ask which other movements. That said, if all those movements floundered, I kind of have to believe that it is not only a trap, but a very effective one.

      2. Both icons are false. There’s nothing wrong with globalism, it was ushered in by prosperity and an economic boom and frankly was just a natural result of more communications and more travel and easier movement of goods and people. There is no such thing as ‘globalism’. Flipping the script to nationalism is just as false. There’s nothing wrong with being proud of your city or country. There’s nothing wrong with thinking locally and taking care of you and yours first.

    2. Right with you on this one.
      Sometimes the boogieman exists but I don’t see a need to continually create a new one if there doesn’t appear to be one hiding under the bed. … Metaphorically speaking. 🙂

    3. That’s blue pill nonsense. At a global level, yes everything is controlled by a cabal, this is absolutely true. You can dismiss it as fantasy, it doesn’t change the fact we’re ruled by an oligarchy that has been around for a very long time.

      1. Yeah yeah. Heard it all before. About every single topic where the contestant isn’t used to winning. It’s like the kid who hits a home run then stands on home plate and stares in disbelief because he doesn’t even realize he’s supposed to run the bases.
        But sure, ok, yeah, we should just give up and go back to sleep. But then “they” win. And if we don’t, that just means we’re playing into “their” hands, and “they” win. Gosh, what a perfectly rational and healthy way to approach life! Yay always being the losers!
        Calling differing opinions that have nothing to do with the SMP “blue pill” is silly. Avoid that in the future.

        2. Want me to blow your mind?
          There is no house.
          There are only temporary actors and players who come and go.
          This isn’t to say that there aren’t elites, clearly there are. But there is no one central controlling authority that directs everything. That’s silly on its face.
          And even if there was, there is no surer way to keep them in power than to cast aside every movement that starts to find success against “them”.

        5. If there are, they’re humans just like us, and can be felled by the common cold just like any other person. They are not all powerful and there’s no way for them to control us and our every action. If that’s power, it seems like a pretty petty thing to pursue.

        10. Olivia Wilde was on “House”…any use of that word makes me get an instant boner and think of Olivia.

        13. And it will rain again, and we’re all going to die someday. None of this should impact your values or actions.

      3. If the Catholic Church and the Orthodox Jews and the Sharia Islam couldn’t hold together a political movement with GOD on their side… no one can. Every religion splits off into fragments and even fights inside itself. Why is the middle east a mess ? Largely because 2 forms of the same religion, Sunni and Shia don’t see eye to eye. All the wars in Europe pre 1900 were different factions of Christianity going at each other. And before that Christians against Muslims both with ‘God’ on their side.
        Imagine what it would be like, even if you had a satanic conspiracy cult group. Freemasons whatever. It wouldn’t last more 1 or maybe 2 generations, before some bright spark decided to splinter off. Even back in the day, medieval Kings families with such a concentration and dominance of wealth and power and with the general population treating them like gods – their followers and families within 1-2 generations lost power and died out.
        We’re shadow boxing – that’s what it is. When the MSM talks about the elites, I am sure plenty of billionaires and CEOs sit there thinking I wish I was a part of that elite.

    4. The one aspect of alternative media that always turns me off is this whole, “OMG the elites are in total control and there’s nothing we can do about it” mentality. Fuck the elites. Fuck George Soros. Fuck Hillary Clinton. Fuck Mark Cuckerberg. Fuck every billionaire fucktoy who believes having wealth gives him the authority to fuck over normal people. They are only human. They are not demigods. Quit acting like they are. History has proven that even the elites can be strung from a rope, lose their heads in the guillotine, and have their corpses kicked around like a soccer ball in the streets. We are winning, we must continue winning, and we must believe these pieces of shit will receive harsh justice.

      1. Yes, yes, a thousand times yes. Exactly.
        People are comfortable being in the losing role. It’s all they’ve known. This kind of change, starting to win I mean, is alien to them. It causes a lot of discomfort.

        1. Off topic, but I when I played baseball and basketball, I always hated being on teams with people like this. “We played hard, guys. We’ll get ’em next time.” This always came from the assholes who half-assed in practice. Fuck off with that attitude. I want to win and I won’t let others drag me down to loserville.

        4. And Capri Suns. Sometimes one mom would try and outdo the other moms by providing a whole spread with plenty of chocolate treats for the kids. Ah, the days of YMCA basketball and crazy little league parents.

        6. We got free hot dogs from the concession stand AND ice cream cups. Of course that was back in the 80s.

        8. Interesting article…. I’ve also noticed recently that these bywords, like nationalism and globalism have suddenly been pushed in the mainstream media, as if there’s only two sides to the situation.
          It’s basically a simplistic, almost feminine or passive aggressive way of goading and distorting a person, group or movement into defining itself in the extreme – rather than allowing an organic growth and a natural intelligence to find balance and maturity.
          In the same way that American money and resources poured into Nazi Germany and appeasement by the British allowed Hitler to start wars, that might never have occurred, had the Nazi movement matured more organically, less fanatically and with less resources and less encouragement to go for the ‘nuclear’ option.
          They tried it on Russia, clearly the aim was to get Putin to invade the Ukraine, making Russia into the big bad bully aggressor. The concept that we have to choose nationalism or globalism and one is good and the other bad is patent BS. Did the UK, EU countries, China etc. not have a national identify until last week when ‘globalism’ ended and ‘nationalism’ started ? Its total horseshit.
          Can a person, group or nation not be proud of and take good care of their local geographical environment whilst also being on good terms with their neighbors. It’s pretty simple isn’t it ?
          The concept of backing your local football team or being ‘from’ LA or London or wherever and being proud of that, doesn’t make you a fascist nationalist threat to everyone around you. At the same time appreciating other cultures and being friendly to races and ethnic groups and enjoying foreign ideals, doesn’t make you a Marxist globalist conspirator. I recall the same BS started up after 9/11 when they tried to suggest that French fries were unpatriotic. It’s mental terrorism.

        9. You kids played mildly hard for 25 minutes. Now here’s 2000 empty sugar calories to make you feel great about it and guarantee that work does you little to no good.

        10. At 4 and 5 years old I let it go and didn’t tell anyone I was keeping score. At 6 years old, I tell my son if he won or lost.

        11. Good points. Nationalism and globalism is something that has always existed in a balance and you can’t have one devoid of the other. The nations must interact and cooperate on some level.
          So the question is, how much does our nation want to allow globalism to determine what we do. I vote on as little as we can get by with. Kind of the same sentiment I have on the federal government. There is a bare minimum the fed gov must do. I don’t want them doing any more than that if possible.
          Same for the world at large and interests of the world at large dictating our politics, policies, culture and the like. Whatever the minimum is we must put up with here, is kind of where I sit. I prefer decisions controlled at the local level as much as possible.
          Defense is the primary purpose of the federal government, and international alliances in my opinion, with trade and infrastructure also being important discussions. There must be some form of world wide business (and there will be no matter what) and we need to be able to drive over borders and park ships and planes at ports around the world.
          One place where I want the world out of it though is in my rights, freedoms and my guns. The Small Arms Treaty at the UN is absolute horse shit as it literally goes against our constitution and if ever signed by the senate, should be tossed out by the supreme court as unconstitutional. That’s just one example of where the world can shove it.

      2. “If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”
        The art of war.

        1. I agree with knowing your enemy, and our enemy is human. Yes, dethroning them will take work, but it can be done. I have an issue with sites like Infowars who post headlines like, “Elites Meeting to Determine Their Plans for our Future.” Or “Emergency: Hillary Wins Election through Voter Fraud.” That type of shit is not helpful and only breeds apathy.
          Propping up your enemy as some untouchable, elite force is a defeatist attitude. And it’s a safe place to stay. “Yeah, we lost, but there was nothing we could have done. They’re too powerful.” Fuck that attitude. It has been the attitude for the past 16 years for many venturing to these parts of the internet and it needs to stop, especially when coming from media sites leading the fight against these powers.
          Our enemy is a human one, one that is pulling out all the stops to thwart our efforts. That tells me we’ve rattled them. Keep pushing and rattle them some more.

        3. Yes, I think to a large extent even the concept of ‘the elite’ is simply a distraction. What we need is what is best for humanity.
          Some individual operators and their allies eg. Soros push things in one direction, most likely disingenuously for profit – or because they idealistically think their ethos is the only way.
          It’s hard to see that there’s really some grand plan in place. It’s more a rambling push and pull that gets polarized by media hysteria and used for advantage by the smart money that doesn’t care for either side of the argument but can profit by creating distortions one way or the other, they don’t really care.
          Do you think Soros was sad that Hillary lost – I doubt it. His ilk may have been funding one side so they could quietly take the other. It happens in the financial markets all the time that big players will buy up a stock and create a frenzy, for the pure purposes of being able to sell a much larger position they had previously established into the buying.
          Nothing is what it seems, especially when operators are trying to make it all black and white. The classic pump and dump applies just the same in politics. Globalism is bad or Mr. XYZ is very nationalistic, it doesn’t wash. It’s polarizing an organic and complex situation usually for advantage or to collect a group of people that can then be washed out and made impotent.

      3. Another ignorant who believes French revolution was some sort of victory for the common man…

        1. My guillotine reference has more to do with the fact that people in elite circles got their heads chopped off. It wasn’t blind adoration of the French Revolution, as you imply. The same goes for my Gaddafi reference where his corpse was kicked around and anally raped in the streets. Not all revolutions are good. I know that. The point I’m making is that leaders propped up to be elites are merely human, and history has proven that, even if the people doing those actions were wrong.

        2. Gaddafi died because he went against the american federal government, not because of the victory of his people, and you have no excuse for not knowing that when Clinton even brags about it on national television.
          If you think we can beat the elites the same way the elites beat gaddafi, you are not assessing our position correctly. We are not currently more powerful than the elites, just as the Libyan people were not stronger than gaddafi until he went against us.

      4. I don’t see that at all. I see advice to understand the so-called elite’s next move and counter it.

      5. If you think the defeat of Hilary Clinton was a loss, you need to watch the show ‘Yes, Minister’
        Politicians are supposed to be placeholders with no effect on the actual running of the government. In that sense, Hillary Clinton was the worst possible person for the presidency because she actually understood how the bureaucracy worked.
        Moreover, your writing indicates that you believe in the power of the mob. I suggest you look into the German Peasants’ War to cure yourself of that. The ‘elites’ are able to suppress a crowd of any size, and given the inherent problems with democracy, they should be able to.
        The real problem is the disorganization within the government. If they followed financial rather than bureaucratic self-interest, our lives would be much better. Every move we make should be to concentrate power in the hands of someone, and we are far from winning.

      6. Yep. I always irritates me to hear people bitch about the “elites” and in almost the same breath express a pathetic reverence for them.

      1. It seems to imply a forgone conclusion as well as some shady powers that are hovering over a giant chess board in control of everything. I respect Roosh and his writings, but I reject that mindset entirely. People, no matter how rich and powerful, are just not that competent. George Soros is the most visible and open of the lot, and probably the most active, and he just flushed a giant turd of money down the crapper trying to control things.

        While I’m not urging you to throw away your nationalist beliefs, as I surely won’t throw away mine, it is clear to me that a trap is waiting to be sprung, and we will all suffer when it’s finally launched.

        1. Like I said its a risk management. What’s wrong with identifying possible traps, being aware of them as we move along, and avoiding them?

        2. Well whats wrong with it is it puts you there with the moon-landing-deniers, people so desperate to create a conspiracy at every turn. Somewhere today I saw but didn’t click on some article about Paul McCartney dying in nineteen-sixty something we at ROK need to stay rational and not become luny conspiracy theorists.

        3. Dude, quit being rational. The Reptilian Elite is totally real. Have you not seen Nikki Minaj’s reptilian eyes??? Scarrrrrrrrryyyyyy!!!!

        4. Soros had his big hay day in the late 80s. He shipped photocopiers to all the communist eastern bloc universities. He helped to bring down the USSR and end the cold war. He saw he can do good and he contributes to political causes, but it’s not 1985 any more.

        5. Yes, alot of the conspiracy thing is an attempt to whitewash one’s own failures in life and inability to make inner changes and take a better life direction. If it’s all rigged then you have a reason for your own poverty and misery that doesn’t involve taking personal responsibility.

        6. And he pulled gold teeth out of his fellow dead Jews. He has nothing good in his soul now. Nothing.

        7. Don’t forget, Whoros (and his father) told “authorities” where Jews and/or their valuables were hidden, so the Jews could get dead and they could make some money.
          And he was proud of it and said so in public.

      1. I wasn’t aware that hippies were searching for a traditional religion, were studying sophistry, nor that they upheld traditions, patriarchy and masculine virtues.

        1. No, those are his differences from hippies. His similarities are thinking that having power is useless, that having money beyond what covers your basic necessities is bad and that the evil government/elites are all powerful and the only solution is to be a lazy pessimist.

        4. LOL, yeah, in a bread machine.
          I actually thought that article was a spoof when I read the headline.

        7. I’ll be here all week. Try the organic hummus. And don’t forget to tip your nationalistic food servers…they will be looking for new digs very soon…

        8. There is nothing wrong with being a material minimalist, but the thing that makes a man a man is having power and being a leader; if not of other men at least of your own wife and children. A leader needs to have power to be respected and in our capitalist society money brings power. Being pessimistic about your inability to bring change to the world reeks of insecurity and weakness; if Roosh didn’t have an insight into women’s psychology, I doubt he would have much success. He is essentially a hippy who refuses to face the world and its challenges.

        10. “thinking that having power is useless, that having money beyond what covers your basic necessities is bad”
          Is he becoming JESUS?!!?!?!?
          the beard is a dead giveaway…

        12. After all that homemade bread, you can bet someone in line for the stall he’s occupying at the club’s restroom, is gonna be praying for him to pinch that loaf already.

        13. Minimalism is a response to incentives, not a political action. Materialism forces men to produce for no real benefit, as does the legal trap of modern marriage.
          Minimalists will not destroy the government, but they will undermine it just as surely as lazy workers undermined the Soviet Union.

        14. You legally can’t lead your wife. You can bluff, but women aren’t stupid enough to think that men have any legal power in modern society.

    7. Man, I agree, that was totally paranoid. Also China and Russia are going to be nationalist too, these rich fuckers in their gated communities try to stear things but they’re not that powerful or all-knowing, just like you can’t control the weather..

      2. I wasn’t aware of when it was written. I’m all about not resting on laurels nor assuming victory before the battle is fought, but I’m not down with the notion that it’s a foregone conclusion that globalists are simply toying with us and waiting to spring a “trap” as some kind of unified group of nefarious super villains. These people loath not just us, but each other, it’s all they can do to coordinate a fake rally from time to time without exploding in contradictions.
        They really aren’t as powerful as I think some people think that they are. Despite the billions of dollars spent against us, as well as them having the whole of the MSM and the entertainment industry on their side, we’re pushing them down, kicking sand in their face, grabbing their girlfriend and drinking their milkshake.
        End of the day they’re just people, and as vulnerable and incompetent as any other human being on the planet. Keep two steps ahead of them? Absolutely. But don’t assume it’s just a game where we’re playing into some larger plan to our own detriment. They just aren’t that competent.

        1. Look it’s mainly a fashion. It becomes fashionable to be ‘best friends’ with your girlfriend and support her MBA and career. It becomes a fashion to have Angelina Jolie kicking ass against 6ft gorilla thugs. It becomes a fashion to be gay or transgender. It becomes a fashion to be left wing or nationalist. The media and especially the entertainment industry doesn’t always 100% deliberately manipulate – it just serves up the popular flavor of the day.
          Lately there are more masculine films and less titty FBI cop shows which look increasingly ridiculous. If you look at 1970s hair and fashion it looks daft, but in it’s day it probably looked great. It’s just movements and fashions.
          The same thing happens in politics. Hitler looked great in 1936. 10 years later people wondered WTF had happened. What starts off with noble intentions tends to get critical mass behind it and then collapses. It’s the same with stock prices and music trends and businesses and etc. Things come along, start underground, blow into the mainstream, get all out of wack and misunderstood, lose their way and then fall apart.
          Even feminism and marxism, taken in the right direction as a unifying force could be great. Instead it turned into slut parades and gay rights and a whole can of worms that was so far out of wack. The people inside of it couldn’t even see how daft they were, hence tears on election night. People weren’t in floods of tears over other elections, because things weren’t that far gone.

        2. So the fact that the government has destroyed marriage, forced the world to use their money, and owned the media to deceive the populace about how the government is run, this is all a matter of fashion?
          Culture is a response to incentives. Just as no one even tired to succeed in the USSR because of communist incentives, our own culture could not be so degenerate if it weren’t for the government subsidies.

    9. Thank you for posting this. All too often, I see RoK fall to the fallacy that some secret cabal of wizards (probably level 22 wizards) is controlling everything.
      FFS, the western Roman Empire fell due to cultural degenration, engineered not by a cabal of wizards but by the people’s own hedonism and bad management of an already unsustainable economic model.
      The west is falling apart because several uncoordinated actors are working in unintentional tandem: destruction of the church, cultural Marxism and SJW anti-intellectualism.
      While fighting against an evil cabal of level 22 wizards makes for a good melodrama, this is not Gary Gygax’s mother’s basement: this is the real world, where bad shit happens without coordination.

      1. You just rolled a 00 crit hit with your post. Well said.

      2. I hope more people start viewing the world this way. There’s a lot of money in it, on my end, if they do…bravo sir.

      3. I don’t know what experience some of these people have, but it is clearly not in working with large organizations. Otherwise they would know large coordinating efforts are incredibly complicated and never a clean operation. Humans are the ultimate variable.

        1. Yes, exactly. I’ve worked for some mega corporations. To get even trivial shit done is like trying to move a mountain using a plastic beach bucket and a shovel. Want to get 2 ply toilet paper in the restrooms? Ok, we’ll get that to a committee who will do blah blah blah blah blah and ten years later you still won’t have 2 ply toilet paper in the bathrooms.

        2. Masterminding a global conspiracy on this scale would be enormously difficult. Do I think there is some collusion between leftist elements? Absolutely.
          But do I think that George Soros and the other left-wing leaders and academics meet in a cigar filled room to cackle manically about how they are going to destroy the world? No.
          They don’t have to. Societies destroy themselves. The biggest challenge for the West is avoiding this deadly cycle of nations. All the left has to do is nothing: it will happen. But we have our work cut out for us.

        3. And meanwhile everyone is walking funny due to the ass rashes caused from that sand-papery single ply.

        4. No, it would be impossible to mastermind a conspiracy like this. People are too flawed to carry out large scale operations without shortcomings being exposed.

        6. HAHAHA!
          I don’t if I’m just being extraordinarily lucky tonight but that’s 3 posts in a row that have been hilarious with words!
          Thanks for brightening up the end of a busy day! 😀

        7. More importantly, this cabal would have to be an extremely cohesive unit, otherwise the would undercut each other left and right, thus failing at making this global plot of dominance. Unless you ascribe them to agents of supernatural/extraterrestrial forces, they are just as prone to messing up as the average human.

        8. I guess cohesive groups would seem strange to gentiles growing up in the western world where individualism is the order of the day.
          Funny that the most cohesive ethnic (((group))) on the planet and arguably most privileged discourages others from doing the same and promotes poison amongst them to keep it that way.

        9. So, basically, these people are better than us, since they are able to put aside all individualisms and personal greed.

        10. Greed is probably a key motivator.
          Cohesive groups outcompete individualist strategy.
          If a cohesive group can convince/manipulate other groups to forfeit their cohesion and pursue individualism then they can dominate said individuals.

        11. Indeed, but faced with the prospect of undercutting an “equal” for a huge amount of immediate profits vs. engaging in long term politics and manipulations which could or could not bear fruits, what would you do? What would anyone, considering that they are not mutually exclusive either?
          You put too much stocking in them not having conflicting interests.

        12. I suppose hypothetically if I was raised with an indoctrinated siege mentality, followed a racial religion/culture that taught it was expected of me to exploit the infidel and strictly co operate with my people and saw just how successful this program was bearing fruit I guess I would stick with the status quo and do what I could to protect it. Undercutting an equal is something to be promoted on the gentile infidel, for our gain of course.

        13. That kind of indoctrination would require complete separation from “the infedels” as well as constant monitoring to prevent one from selling out the cause to chase after hedonistic objectives. Humans don’t work like that without a system that reinforces a self-restrictive behavior.

        14. And most of these elites are extremely competitive people and have diametrically opposed interests at times. There’s no way they are working together in large scale unless it is optimal for themselves. And it isn’t.

        15. “I’ll confess it, at least: like thousands of other typical Jewish kids of my generation, I was reared as a Jewish nationalist, even a quasi-separatist. Every summer for two months for 10 formative years during my childhood and adolescence I attended Jewish summer camp. There, each morning, I saluted a foreign flag, dressed in a uniform reflecting its colors, sang a foreign national anthem, learned a foreign language, learned foreign folk songs and dances, and was taught that Israel was the true homeland. Emigration to Israel was considered the highest virtue, and, like many other Jewish teens of my generation, I spent two summers working in Israel on a collective farm while I contemplated that possibility. More tacitly and subconsciously, I was taught the superiority of my people to the gentiles who had oppressed us. We were taught to view non-Jews as untrustworthy outsiders, people from whom sudden gusts of hatred might be anticipated, people less sensitive, intelligent, and moral than ourselves. We were also taught that the lesson of our dark history is that we could rely on no one. . . . [I]t must be admitted that the essence of the process of my nationalist training was to inculcate the belief that the primary division in the world was between “us” and “them.” Of course we also saluted the American and Canadian flags and sang those anthems, usually with real feeling, but it was clear where our primary loyalty was meant to reside.”****

          Stephen Steinlight — From Center For Immigration Studies — Backgrounder — October, 2001

        16. Indeed. Yet, it’s still something that has happened before in history and even then it did not work. Iron-clad ideologies are eroded when comining in contact with different cultures.
          The only case when that doesn’t happen is when one or the other is killed before any prolonged exposure takes place.
          Being exposed to other cultures will invariably lead to mutual assimilation when immediate destruction is not performed.

        17. For hundreds of years Jews were expelled from nations for refusal to assimilate and acting against the host nations interests.
          The Frankfurt school devised ideologies backed by powerful Jewish financiers to overcome this problem. Essentially they break nations so they can continue as a strong ethnocentric ingroup exploiting the weakened people/culture they inhabit with impunity.

        18. not at all, in fact that is their only known weakness. they will follow their bureaucratic interests above all, which is the fundamental cause of all the misgovernment in the united states.

        19. That’s because corporations are deliberately structured so that decisions can’t be made. Their only purpose is to allow influence peddlers to control vast sections of the economy. If a corporate entity were capable of making decisions, you might find that it would be more efficient if it were smaller, and that would threaten the influence peddlers. So they keep the power to themselves, and impose an insane 40% corporate tax rate to destroy their competitors while they pay effectively nothing.

        20. evidence: the dilbert principle. Idiots are promoted to middle management so that they can’t do damage. This works to keep idiots from interfering with productive people, while also keeping able people from blocking/rebelling against upper management.
          conclusion: middle managers are stooges, and stooges are only necessary when smart people can’t be trusted to hold power. therefore the corporation is nothing but a system that allows economic production to be controlled politically.

        21. Lol, you think thats bad? Try getting anything done in the military or federal gov.
          I’m amazed any civilian or citizen has such blind faith in those institutions at all.

      4. Follow the money and it becomes clear the degeneracy we are experiencing has been engineered either deliberately or as a side effect in fits and starts because of how it benefits those on top of the pyramid. No real conspiracy, just self interest.

    11. I don’t know. Basking in a great victory is welcome & all but I think mindful caution & being risk aware has its place after the celebration banquet is done. I’m fine with the doomy preaching about recognizing the potential for the changing hazards & dangers ahead. Maybe just how I’m wired.

      1. Mindful caution is fine. A foregone conclusion, as in the last paragraph, that we’re just being played by a larger nefarious force who is going to spring a trap on us in the future, I just can’t get behind.

        1. Yeah, I suppose that final statement worded as understood fact does come across as defeatist. Men don’t master their destiny that way. We’re meant to overcome setbacks.

        2. There’s a big difference between that and ‘sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. Even without ‘world conspiracies’ politics is entirely about deception and misdirection. In a world where politics is about deception and misdirection (and I appreciate you may not accept this) a cigar is never a cigar unless the truth of the matter is itself a misdirection.

        3. Well the question is whether a.) Trump is a deliberate misdirect (I don’t think so), leaving b.) the possibility that he will be goaded and forced into a misdirect by those who oppose him, with a combination of c.) some missteps, corruption and incompetence in his camp.
          I think Trump is for real, the question is whether 1 man, 70 years old, can maintain his integrity and direction in a snake pit of national and global politics.
          Probably Obama was real when he came to power, but he saw the reality and hit the bong and the crack pipe and just coasted through it. It’s not impossible that Trump will end up there. A puppet by default of the situation being just too damn awkward and too many different and conflicting opposing forces in his way.

        4. Valid point. We can only hope that does not come to pass. He does have a history of getting things done though. It would be something if the Presidency turned out to be his magnum opus.

    12. In a sense it is precisely because you are a trump supporter that I don’t quite see how you can say this in the way that you do. Trump himself has argued precisely that nearly everything in politics – from the federal reserve, to the voting system, to lobbying behind the scenes and corrupt politics is about deception where conspiracy is virtually the norm, rather than something than can be dismissed with the wave of the hand as something to be associated with paranoid mental patients wearing tin foil hats. Accepting the idea that nationalism may be something that our elites may have factored in and fully intend to exploit in their argument against that very thing doesn’t mean Trump is a fraud and that the whole thing is manipulated in every last detail. The article gets a bit too specific in its prediction of how things will turn out, but IMO Roosh is not wrong about the way cultural – if you like zeitgeist – arguments play out.

      1. I’m only a marginal Trump supporter. That is, I only voted for him to do one thing, and that is to fill Scalia’s seat with a right winger, and any other SCOTUS seats that open up. That’s it. Nothing more.
        Our elites, so to speak, are barely able to be in the same room together without tearing each other apart. They’re as cohesive as a herd of cats.

        1. Man you really have a way with words. In a sane world, you would be a superstar journalist. Unfortunately we’re in an insane world. Where right is left and up is down. After reading Roosh’s article to be honest I was a little depressed. But this enthusiasm from you is contagious.

        2. If that’s the case how did the whole progressive globalist empire come about? Surface arguments are often about how best to achieve particular goals …..usually progressive goals. Scalia was an outlier in today’s world – hopefully trump will change that, but right now there is a big sea of ideological purity which has only recently been contaminated with a slick of conservative oil. Self-organisation may account for many things, but I don’t see how anyone could conclude the progressive ascendancy could have happened by accident

        3. “They’re as cohesive as a herd of cats.”
          OK, that’s the phrase of the day. Bravo!! 🙂

        4. A slow, long progression of group think combined with just a hint of superiority complex by the left. It really isn’t that hard to do, and it’s not an amazing stunt. But over a century? It’s world changing.
          We’re doing the same thing here, in a different direction.

        5. I have to say, that is honestly one of the nicest things that has ever been said to me, by anybody, in my life.
          Thank you, sir.

        6. you’re missing all the stuff behind the scenes. If you really think the direction of politics is a grass roots affair you’ve not been paying attention

        7. Aristocrats hated each other with a passion, but god help the peasants who thought that they could effectively oppose them.

    13. thank you. it annoys me when people always go blahblahblah its the elites. Yes the very wealthy have their own agenda just like everyone else does. But damn they are human not demigods and a lot of the people on here act like the elites are Gods who are all knowing and all powerful. The elites only have as much power as people give them

      1. You seem to think that the elites have less power than social workers. The ugly truth is that even those pathetic grunts within the establishment have almost total power over you. They can cook up a justification for imprisoning you in minutes, and you really don’t have as many rights as you think.

        1. i never thought they have less power than social workers. I agree with GOJ and many other people on here that while they do have a lot of wealth and political power they are not all powerful. They are human just like all of us and only have as much power as people give them.

        2. Not exactly. If they have the guns, tanks, ect. then they don’t need you to give them power. Fortunately, the military is not a political actor, so what you’re saying is kind of true. All the same, it’s going to take a lot more than a little internet activism to really ruin them, and they can discredit you easier than you can discredit them. And in the end, all they have to do is convince the police/military/IRS that they should attack you to inflict unacceptable losses, and that isn’t nearly as hard as it should be.

        3. yea but im pretty sure most military men would not go to war with their fellow countrymen. You will see mass desertion of the armed forces if something like that happen. And even then the United States has high gun ownership compared to most of the world so we can fight back.

        4. The government has enough administrative measures that they can effectively put down any resistance you give them. If you fight these measures, you will be a common criminal. You will receive no sympathy from either the military or the police. And I hate to think what the national guard would do if criminals like yourself started an insurrection, like you seem to think would be so easy.

        5. true. i was talking about if most people get fed up and start an insurrection. And like i said im pretty sure msot of your military men would not want to kill their fellow countrymen. If they decide to drop bombs hey will merely gain more enemies from the collateral damage. I never implied that an insurrection would be easy. Despite all the complaining most people(myself included) are comfortable and see no need for a violent revolution. Yea certain aspects of our society have gotten bad but overall this is a wonderful time to be alive.

        6. Actually, any insurrection that got to the point you’re talking about would be extremely easy to win. But first a nucleus of resistance would have to develop, and that is what would be put down. At no point (unless the electoral college actually tires to stop Trump) is half the country going to stop going about their daily lives to actually resist the government. Some group would have to exist that provides an alternative to the government for any resistance to develop that lasts longer than a week, and it is that group that would be looked at as criminals. And to be honest, since all government is criminal anyway, people looking at them like that would be far from wrong.

    14. It’s fear. I’ve considered what Roosh here wrote many times before we even got to this point.
      Hope is a scary thing lol

    15. “Human beings are not that elegant and not everything is controlled by some secret cabal of, apparently, magical wizards who control reality behind the scenes. Movements happen all on their own, and counter movements rise to meet them. This is the way of history. Needing some nefarious evil force in the background is silly.”
      You could not be more wrong. Movements such as feminism, communism, the War on Terror, etc. do not just happen “on their own”. It takes planning years, maybe even decades in advance to get all the right pieces in place.
      Just because we have Trump in office does not mean we can kick back, relax, and drink beer. The left will most certainly double down in the near future and if we’re not careful and aware, we’ll be right back to where we started.

      1. 1. Who mentioned Trump?
        2. Shady people in the background that you can’t prove exist are a convenient way to lay blame for your own failures in life on something else.
        3. Even if they did exist, we’re men, we stand up and fight, we don’t give in to defeatism.

        1. 1) Trump and nationalism go hand in hand together. Trump whipped up a firestorm of Americans who were sick and tired of seeing this country literally being taken away from us. You’d have to be an idiot to not see the connection between nationalism and Trump.
          2) No one is blaming the global elite for their own personal shortcomings in life. While they have most certainly decreased our standard of living (trillions in debt, shitty colleges, and less good paying jobs) at the end of the day men face off against men. The strongest will survive and the weak will make excuses.
          There is most certainly a ruling elite in this country and in the world. People like you and lolknee try to throw people off the trail by using terms like “conspiracy theory” and “alternate media” to make it seem it’s of the make believe. But you can’t fool me.
          3) It’s not as simple as picking up pitch forks and going to Washington and burning the White House down. The enemy is a lot more complicated and complex than that. But we do have the numbers to back us. Our greatest weapon is knowledge and self awareness. The more people that wake up and reject these silly movements I’ve already highlighted the more they lose their control.
          You are a closed minded person. It doesn’t take a lot of effort to see that the media and the majority of our elected government officials are playing us for fools. Do some research and quit talking about things you have little understanding of.
          CP

        2. This article is not defeatism, but a recognition of what exactly we are up against. Just because we overwhelming won an election does not mean we control the government. And if you look carefully at the culture war, it seems that every move is calculated to antagonize rather than promote an agenda.
          If you really want to win a fight like this, it will take far more violence than tossing a piece of paper in a box, and far more preparation and power-gathering than two years of online blogging.

      1. notice when you show direct evidence of the cabal cognitive dissonance kicks in. The deniers will ignore this or they will find a way to rationalize this direct qoute. Thanks you lol.

        1. Its kind of ironic considering the fact that neomasculine communities such as ROK would be considered as “tinfoil hat” territory by the average joe.
          Objective facts>>>Rhetoric

    17. I agree with GoJ.
      At the same time, the author is a self admitted pessimist and he is being true to his nature. He should be aware of all possibilities but avoid embracing defeatism. Men are fallible. Most especially shady, globalist, wholly immoral men. They are more likely to fall victim to jealousy, wicked hate, falsehood, and every other stumbling block the moral man endlessly fights to purge his heart of. This is why the wicked always fail wonderfully and totally regardless how much damage they manage to do. Losing sight of this truth would be foolish.
      My paradigm challenges me to always be rejoicing and faithful. It’s a challenge I encourage everyone, especially pessimists, to take up. After all, one trait of an exceptional man is he always wants to better himself, right?

    18. Hear! Hear!
      This sir is why you continue to have my admiration.
      Defeatism, paranoia, and any other negative form of self-fulfilling prophecy must never become our mindset.
      Our own assent to defeat is defeat.

  16. Nationalism if followed to it’s full extent will recreate the city state. The idea, one must always remember, once was pushed in order to destroy the European empires, creating small states that would clung to their liberators or require them for reasons of defence.
    Of course Nationalism is better than Globalism, though it still remains a regress to previous romantic times and based also on romanticized notions. For the last consider this: how can the vast majority of leftists to be ever consedered a part of the nation, what about also illiterate proles that only want to fornicate, eat and drink? The fatal flaw on nationalism in the end is that it couldn’t differentiate between the people that constitute it. In some words it means that it suffers from a form of egalitarianism. This idea also was needed for the furtherance of democracy which is the easiest regime to infiltrate, due to it allowing some entry into its party system, while at the same time regarding the outcome of the election always correct (before anyone sais anything, consider Obama’s second reelection and the choice between Bush sr and Clinton and the many times when the people voted against them in the long term without noticing)
    Empires on the other hand, besides their shortcomings better protected most if not all the people under them without destroying them, unlike modern globalism. Also they better helped maintain stability in their regions, for the most part, while globalism thrives under chaos, and causes it. Also Empires, due to their vast lands, better protect themselves in the geopolitical sense.
    For example let’s take Greece, it opened its borders and welcomed migrants… sorry invaders playing with the future of Europe and as long as that small semi-independent nation state, ellects someon that may close its borders European security will be under threat. Under an empire the very least that could happen would have been the goading of that small state to close its borders.
    For personal taste a pan-european empire, under an european monarch (not though from the current dynasties) would have been the best solution for europeans even though I do not know who may manage to do it, it would be better though that any possible destruction of manipulation that would be followed.

    1. that’s why I’m a royalist and against democracy. I gave up on these hopeless political systems, they’re against the natural order.

      1. Here too!
        I completely even threw the idea of that regime in the gutter when the hysteria with SYRIZA started here, litterally we voted the guys that were payed by Soros, see our country become foreign and care, for the most part, only if he will hand jobs in the public sector!!! Also the masses are ok with anything ’till that hits in the face. I mean I am of the last Greeks that migrant invasion will hit and many of the ones it would hit first did not saw it coming! I have no patience, anymore for short-sightedness.
        Also, if you read Plato (the Republic and the Sophists specifically, complementary the Laws too) you will see that Republics tend to breed more of the bad characterists of the people, leading them faster to decline, also Tyrranids tended to actually be understood as a popular type of dictatorship, in which an illegitimate king took power basing himself upon a part of the people, in the book the reference was mostly put on emancipated slaves that in the end took the will of the tyrant as a slave too.
        In general I believe the last 200 years to be a terrible regress to the childhood of Europe!

        2. Actually Sparta used a mixed system of oligarchy (gerontarchy, the eldest were part of the senate), kingship (it had two kings but I thing that they were mostly meant to lead the men into battle) and clerarchy, they were highly religious. of course mass democracy never existed and upon all they respected their laws! Only problem they had was that they couldn’t change with the times and so when Rome expanded they were crashed, still they serve as a far better example from all the city states and besides their militarism they were surprisingly more peaceful than the Athenians who are considered as generally peaceful, if you read on the peloponesian war you can coclude that Athens destroyed near single-handedly the civilization that was called ancient Greece. Also Athens called on the Romans for help in a confict that to the conquest of the Rest of Greece.

  17. What about jingoism? – extreme patriotism, especially in the form of aggressive or warlike foreign policy. It seems like this has set the tone for governments everywhere for quite a long time. Not a peep about it from the media. I wonder why? Are they not interested in truth? Do they only want to give us 40 acres and a mule, minus the acreage and the mule? What does LeBron have to say about this? Burp.

  18. Unrelated, but did any of you catch that Monday Night Football game last night, from Mexico City. That was the most rigged event that I’ve seen, since Obama “won” back in 2012…holy shite. It was WWE meets reality TV.

      1. He’s using his old account today for some reason. He’s a strange egg.

    2. Nationalism is like sex….terrible, painful and unnecessary and something that should never be done by anyone.

        3. all of them? like every word you have ever said? because that would be a start.

  20. nationalism should not be confused with fascism. A strong national interest, sealed borders, intentionally competitive trade agreements (unlike NAFTA and deals with China) a strong military defense is nationalism. Fascism can and often has a strong nationalist element, but it involves a totalitarian government which view its people as being subject to the government, not the government being subject to the people.

    1. Exactly. It seems like even hinting that “gosh, it sure would be nice to have a rational immigration policy and enforced borders” means “NAZI!” instead of “Hey, let’s sit down and discuss that”. This is the intellectual level we’re playing against here Jim. You either buy into the multi-cult, or you’re a NAZI!(tm). It’s intellectually dishonest from the get go.

      1. It’s a product of years of media misinformation. People look at Hitler and say Oh! he is a nationalist, we cant be anything like that. Well, it is his Socialist side that we despise. God made us to learn to govern ourselves.

      2. Man we need to get real about the reality of racial and national differences and the necessity of borders quick smart, stop labeling it all “nazi” or it’s going to continue to stuff up our countries

        1. I get really irritated that somehow we’re not “allowed” to discuss basic, tried and true, done by every nation in the history of the world, immigration policy. Try to immigrate to Mexico. Just try it. Or Canada (the preferred hidey hole of Leftists), good luck with that.
          What is so freaking bad about having a border and having a rational immigration policy?

        2. Whites feel guilty about their relative success in the world and try to ease that guilt with leaky borders

        3. Say what, cracker? I don’t feel any guilt for how I’ve done in life? Am I defective or something?

        5. People don’t seem to understand that there’s a nice middle ground between “NO ONE IN EVER!” and “LET’S LET EVERYONE IN!”

        6. “…Or Canada (the preferred hidey hole of Leftists), good luck with that.”
          Yeah we only take Syrian Refugees at present..

        8. Some misfires over the years but I think we’ve entirely lost the plot with this one..
          Brining in 50,000 Syrian refugees into an economy that’s weak and many of whom are not at all compatible with or equiped for Canadian life may come back to bite us..
          If we wanted to help them, then we should help countries like Lebanon which is hosting just over 1 million refugees.
          The country is bursting at the seams with Syrian refugess, and short on resources (even water) as well almost at civil war again on it’s own.
          Instead of political grandstanding $5 billion (what we’re spending on these refugees in Canada) could have been well dirrected as foreign aid helped Lebanon stave off chaos..

      3. see: “false dichotomy” the preeminent scorched-earth reasoning technique used by short-attention-span liberals….

  21. I thoroughly disagree with you Roosh, with Trump winning and Brexit happening there will be an uprising in right wing support all over Europe. Wealthy people aren’t necessarily globalists or pro feminist, actually Nat Rothschild if you can believe it, is an avid Trump and Brexit supporter and he’s not alone, several billionaires lean right.
    George Soros undoubtedly has a lot of power and there are obviously those of the Frankfurt school that are now CEOs of media companies, but their power is not absolute. They aren’t necessarily evil either, they were taught lies in school and they think their ideology is right. Politicians like Merkel also think they are doing the right thing and after all people also do what is best for them, there is no unity between the rich, no unity between politicians.
    This is a fair fight, there is division among the elites and among the people as well and that is good. Balance is close to being achieved and slowly things will improve.

  22. Roosh, you tap directly in to some classic Sun Tzu wisdom for a modern age: Don’t ever let a joyful moment or winning momentum suspend your wariness and resolve — this is a serious oversight, where foolish over-celebration may result in a tragic weakening of your strong hand.
    Sun Tzu was alluding to a “pragmatic paranoia” and an unconventional truth that the moment of a “big win” (in politics, in battle) is also the moment that is most fraught with peril.
    Or in the modern colloquial: “Don’t get caught slippin’.”
    The last 2 paragraphs of this article shed light on why you can never stop and why the human race seems to absolutely require oppositional forces to move forward in a survival-of-the-fittest spirit. That is to say — we will *always* have enemies; act accordingly.

  23. All those years Alex Jewnes is talking about Bohemian Grove and satanistic cults – but now that there is Pizzagate – he is completely silent. Give me a break.
    If Alex Jewnes isn’t controlled opposition, controlled opposition doesn’t exist.

    1. If they are a known commodity, they are controlled opposition. It’s the guy nobody’s ever heard of who knows the score – and they take that guy down early. Put him in a psych ward, or a prison, or bury his ass in a hole in the desert.

      1. If Alex Jones is controlled opposition, then it’s to make all conspiracy theorists look like idiots. He basically makes money out of people’s fears and what he says is purposely exaggerated.

        1. I don’t know if it’s still the case, but Jones used to broadcast via a company owned by Disney Corporation. That pretty much tells you all you need to know right there…

  25. Don Henley said it better than I ever could (put on the head phones and crank this puppy up).
    “We got the bully pulpit…and the poisoned pen…we got a press no better…than the public men…this brave new world…gone bad again.” (Etc.)
    Of course, that was easy for him to say, since he’s a multi-kazillionaire. But it’s still a great song.

    1. “I’ve got two words for Don Henley, Joe-Fuckin’-Walsh” –Denis Leary (while he was still funny)

      1. Leary was just jealous because he didn’t have as much talent as Henley (same as Walsh)… :>)

        1. actually just googled and the context of that line is so great and oddly poignant:
          I’ll tell you something else I don’t get, ok? This whole thing, these bands going backwards, you know what I’m talking about? This whole nostalgia for the late 60’s, early 70’s that’s happening right now. The Black Crowes wearing bell bottoms again? I don’t fucking think so, ok! I wore them once, they sucked, I didn’t get laid, I’m not wearing them again! Let me tell you something. We need a two and a half hour movie about the Doors? Folks, no we don’t. I can sum it up for you in five seconds, ok. “I’m drunk. I’m nobody. I’m drunk. I’m famous. I’m drunk. I’m fucking dead.” There’s the whole movie, ok!? Big fat dead guy in a bath tub, there’s your title for you.
          And I also don’t go for this other thing now, with MTV being so big where you get a band that gets a hit video, and all of the sudden they think that they’re like icons and they can tell us how to feel about environmental issues and how to vote and stuff. You know what I’m talking about? Like R.E.M. “Shiny Happy People” “Hey Hey Hey Hey Hey! Pull that bus over to the side of the pretentiousness turnpike, alright!? I want everybody off the bus. I want the shiny people over here, and the happy people over here, ok! I represent angry gun-toting meat-eating fucking people, alright!” Sit down and shut the fuck up Michael! Don Henley’s gonna tell me how to vote. I don’t fucking think so, ok? I got two words for Don Henley, Joe Fucking Walsh, ok!? Thanks for calling, Don! How long’s your pony tail now? Ok!
          All these rock stars should’ve been killed, man. Every single God damned one of them. Right after Jon Lenin died, we should’ve gotten the Partridge Family bus and driven around and killed them all one by one, you know? Elvis Presley should have been shot in the head back in 1957. Somebody should’ve walked up behind Elvis in ’57 with a 44 magnum, put the barrel of the gun right up to his brain stem and just pulled the trigger, so you can remember Elvis in a nice way. Wouldn’t it be nice to remember Elvis thin, with a big head of hair? Maybe that gold lame gold lame gold lame suit. Wouldn’t that be nice? Because how do you remember Elvis? You know how you remember Elvis. He was found in the toilet with his pants around his ankles and his big fat hairy sweaty king of rock and roll ass exposed to the world and his final piece of kingly evidence floating in the toilet behind him! Creepy! One of his aids had to walk in and go, “Damn, Elvis is dead. I’d better flush the toilet. Oh man I should’ve saved that! I coulda made some money off of that! Damn man! A ding dang do!”
          That’s why I’m glad Jesus died when he did. Oh yeah. Because if he lived to be 40, he woulda ended up like Elvis, come on! Oh yeah, he had that big entourage. Twelve guys willing to do whatever he wanted to do. He was famous already at that point. If he lived to be 40, he’d be walking around Jerusalem with a big fat beer gut and black side burns going, “Damn, I’m the son of God. Give me a cheese burger and french fries right now. Where’s Mary Magdeline, I want a blow job now. Come on now! Fuck you, or I’ll turn you into a leper. Give me a cheese burger now, God dammit. Love me tender, love me true, empty my colostomy bag! Oh I think I shit my pants on that last… Change my diaper now!”
          I’m going to hell for that bit. And you’re all coming with me! And don’t try to get out of it, “We didn’t laugh at that bit, Jesus, please!” “Shut up! Get on the bus with Leary and Scorsese. You’re going right to fucking hell!” And you know what hell is folks. It’s Andy Gibb, singing Shadow Dancing for eons and eons. And you have to wear orange plaid bell bottoms and sit next to the Bay City Rollers. “How you guys doing? This is gonna suck!”

        2. Dennis Leary always struck me as the guy who was so cocky that he just faked it till he made it. Kinda like Kid Rock. He just kept standing there, with the cool/smart kids, and out-blustered them. What he wrote there was pretty funny though about rock stars. I mean, in a hey-Dennis-you’re-pretty-witty-but-you-don’t-quite-have-the-mega-talent-chops-but-that’s-okay-I’d-still-drink-a-beer-with-you-just-don’t-look-down-at-me-for-my-views-because-I-can-do-shit-you-can’t-pronounce-and-if-you-keep-shooting-your-mouth-off-I’ll-prove-it-to-you-until-you-realize-god-took-a-huge-piss-in-your-talent-pool kinda way. Jesus. I suddenly realized that I’m cockier than Dennis Leary….

        3. As you say but with one addition. Leary had great delivery and timing

  26. I think Roosh is right here. There’s been an enormous uptick in pushing a Trump=Nazi/Nationalism lately and it undoubtedly has its provocateurs in the mix. Instead of gloating, the volume needs to be lowered to suss out the troublemakers and get rid of them.

  27. Glad this point was brought up. It’s dangerous to bask too long in an achievement. A giant step taken in a very long road. A brief welcome respite perhaps. Meanwhile the Enemy plots & learns from its mistakes & sharpens their axes.

    1. This video is not available in germany.
      Seems like the saying that germans don’t have a sense of humour is true.

      1. Must be nice to have your self-loathing politicians police your thoughts for you. Now you have free time to use for other activities!

        1. Yeah, other activities like doing charity work at refugee camps so the poor syrian engineers are comfortable enough to behead my mother and rape my sister 🙂

        2. You should be organzing into self defence committees or the like it’s clear your leaders have completely lost and semeblence of reality and legitimacy..

  29. So what the fuck are we ment to do then?…who do we follow?…fuck you all…follow yourself…be your own boss…then band together and form something meaningful as a group…otherwise fuck it…flip flop everytime.

      1. Indeed you did. I posted in between rounds of banging this chick so I didn’t bother to take the time to carefully scan the comments section below. REDRUM REDRUM….

  31. It’s amazing how quickly the globalists used the media and the educational systems to make nationalism the equivalent of Nazism in the minds of the sheep. I mean, fuck, that was fast. We used to discuss the importance of the Constitution, and maintaining the security of our borders, and how important those things were to our freedom, and those things were simply a given. Every right-thinking American thought that way. And now, in what – about 30 years, tops? – Rockefeller & Co. have turned it all on its ear, and most people are begging and screaming for their own destruction by encouraging everyone to embrace globalism. It’s fucking incredible, but there you go. As for those of you who think it happened by accident…please let me know whenever you are leaving the house, because I will stay inside, as your lack of discernment makes you dangerous to yourselves and everyone else around you.

    1. We meet. I discuss an idea with you that I’ve taken a fancy to. You like the idea. We discuss it at length. We depart and never see each other again. You start discussing it with other people, and they like it too, because it will give them a certain amount of power that they crave. I do the same with other people.
      We all go and start companies, towards working towards some facets of the idea that we personally like best. We don’t communicate with each other, in fact we have completely forgotten that we even met. But we’re working for facet X of the overall idea, you’re working for facet Y of the idea, and so on. Over time, without any contact or planning, we have all kinds of people integrating into our organization(s) and branching out on their own pursuits of portions of the ideal. To the outsider who is not fond of the idea, all he sees are all of these organizations seemingly working in collusion towards an ideal he finds loathsome. Everywhere he turns, he finds some organization working towards its own self interest towards facet “whatever” of the original ideal.
      That’s how it works. It doesn’t require mass coordination. Just people pursuing what they find to be to their advantage. There’s a *lot* to be gained by pursuing globalism for a whole lot of parties who have no connection to each other whatsoever. But the net effect is, that it seems like its coordinated.

        1. That’s how most all movements work. Various parties all working towards their own interests based around a common idea/ideology. So here we get open borders type (business looking to maximize profit), feminism (women looking for legal power to castrate men), white hate (some minority groups looking for some revenge for things that they haven’t experienced but which their popular mythology tells them that they suffered), socialism (lots of power to be had for control freaks who crave dictating minute details to captive audiences), the whole ball of wax. The human impulse to join the group generally handles the rest quite easily. Nobody wants to be “that weird guy who is so disagreeable, I’m much safer joining the crowd”, which of course provides a great organic social control mechanism.
          Sure, there are minor conspiracies, but the whole “control the world” thing is too large to even have a smidgen of a chance of working. I used to work for a freaking huge bank, and outside of using tactical nuclear weapons, you couldn’t get anything coordinated company wide if your life was held in the balance.

        2. If you control the money supply you can manipulate and control whole countries and even the world. It’s not rocket science, I am sure you can figure it by yourself … kid!

        3. Except for Marxism, right…I’ve read your opinions about that one more than a few times, and agree with most of them. Don’t forget that little minor conspiracy there. Heh.

        4. OMG! I just looked in my wallet, and there are Federal Reserve Notes! Oh crap, now I’m feeling compelled to act against my own interests! I’ve just signed up, completely against my will, for ballroom dancing classes! The control of me via my money, they have me utterly enslaved, it’s too much! It’s TOO MUCH!!!!!

        5. Marxism was a revolution in Russia, inspired by a lunatic German. The USSR did plant people throughout the U.S., this is historical fact, not conjecture. That being said, in the long run it turns out that they’re ultimately failing (Brexit, nationalism in the U.S., rising nationalism in France, etc).

        6. The note in your pocket was issued as debt, debt which you and all other citizens owe to the bank. So although you do not understand these things they do exist. A bit like gravity, kid.

        7. Yeah, I don’t owe anybody anything. Sorry kid.
          I’m all over your Fed Reserve theory, it’s nothing new under the sun, and I am in fact against fiat currency and the Federal Reserve. But they don’t control me through the money, sorry child.
          Sure they tax me. But governments have taxed people for all of human history, even when we used only silver and gold (which I advocate for, btw). If we eliminated the Fed tomorrow, we’d have some other currency put in its place and then, guess what, it would be taxed AND at some point, inflation would occur.

        10. They tax you and take away your sovereignty as you owe them. They haven’t yet taken away your guns but they do try but in other countries they have even succeeded. They send your sons to die in far away countries to protect the dollar status-qua and yet you don’t see how they control you.
          The slave is dreaming … indeed!

        11. Don’t put down ball room dancing so quick. I have always thought it would be an amazing thing to be really good at and never use then one day, at some insanely large function, I don’t know maybe the awarding of nobel prizes, you just grab some European princess and do it up right.

        13. My son hasn’t been sent anywhere. They’ve tried to take my guns and have failed. Prices are good around these parts for all basic necessities of life. The sun rises every morning and sets every evening. I still run my own life as I see fit.
          I think that if they’re thinking that they have power over me, maybe they might be using that word wrong.

        16. If I may be so bold, I think it would be right up your alley- basically athletic, traditional male/female dynamics, an excuse to wear a tux…
          The guy who runs the place I took lessons briefly is a Fitness Beast who also dabbles in martial arts, bus lifting, and gratuitous international sport-fukking.

        17. I’m a man who doesn’t invent stories of people sending away my son to die for Alan Greenspan, when it isn’t happening.
          Where’s the control over my life, outside of taxation/inflation? Those happen with any currency so…..outside of that, where is it? Everything I stated is accurate. Not one time has my Fed Reserve Note jumped out of my pocket and compelled me to do anything that I did not wish to do.

        19. I’d rather take Tango lessons (actually, I would). Or, if I’m feeling really ambitious, I’d love to learn to dance the Mamushka.

        20. is that the one where you crouch down and kick out your legs while standing on a table while General Patton Drinks vodka?

        21. Wait. Did I hear you say excuse to wear a tux? My good friend, I have 3 fitted tuxedos. Now that the fall is here Saturday night is an excuse to wear a tux.

        22. Nah. Addams Family, the weird knife throwing dance they do.

        26. I will take my wife dancing on occasion. Country Swing or Country Waltz. If you know what you are doing, it is a nice skill to have in your toolbox.

        28. I am of the feeling that even if you never use something you should always know how to do it at least well enough not to embarrass yourself. Life has a way of throwing curveballs. It is good to know how to hit them.

        29. It’s fun. There are 3 places I go to where wearing a nice tux (super slim cut, very modern looking not like something you rent for a buddy’s wedding) will not seem out of place. Want to get yourself some purrrrrtttyyy women, walk into a very chic hotel bar while some piano player is playing wearing a tuxedo….

        31. For way too much of my life I sat on the sidelines snorting about how ‘gay’ dancing was, while the ‘gay’ dude was out there methodically cocking every single girl I wanted…

        32. It’s fun. And it is a show ya know. I am a kid from Bushwick. I went to the now defunct Franklin K Lane high school. Also I am pretty much covered in tattoos on both shoulders about 30% the way to my elbows (which makes it fun when first taking off clothes with a girl who only knows me as someone who wears suits or a tux trust me on that one). Best response ever as I took off a tuxedo jacket and shirt and had a wife beater and quarter sleeves was a girl who just looked at me and said “holy shit jackpot” not even kidding. And this was only a few months ago.

        33. I have never, not once, not even for a fleeting moment, needed to dance to get women. In fact, should I dare to dance, this has the exact opposite effect of attraction on women.

        34. You grab a girl, take her out, and you are in control of her. Learn how to dance classy, not the gay prancing stuff, but a a solid swing, and you can do a lot with it.

        35. I poo poo’d a lot of stuff as being faggy. I have embraced it. I get a little ribbing from the guys about my weekly manicure pedicure appointments, seasonal facials, weekly charcoal peels, daily masks and all the fucking skin product I use. I have a cobbler I like for my shoes and a tailor I go to for my clothes. I get everything tailored. Hell, I have a guy who makes high end mens dress socks who I hang out with and will only buy my socks and underwear from him. He is totally nuts. But in the end…ya know what, I look great and looking good is part of feeling good which is part of being good.

        36. It’s the bottom of the 9th and the Yankees are down by a run. Lolknee comes up to bat and wait…what is this??!? He’s grabbed a woman from the stands and is ball room dancing with her on the field! The crowd is going wild! Wait…in the background….the runner on second steals third…now he’s coming into home while the rest of the team stares at lolknee ball room dancing with the woman on the field! Score! And right behind him, the runner on first rounds third and….here he comes….score! The Yankees win it! The Yankees win!!!!

        37. my weekly manicure pedicure appointments, seasonal facials, weekly charcoal peels, daily masks and all the fucking skin product I use.

          I….I can’t even….
          Wow. Just wow.

        38. Well sure, I mean, I did manage to get laid here and there anyway…I’m just saying it would have greatly expanded my catchment area!

        41. That’s a long walk off a short plank in my circles, mate.

        42. I have faith in your quick reflexes and keen eye for women, to know that she’d be hot.

        45. Not a slave to group think. Just not fond of being cold punched in a bar. Besides, I like my group of buds. The well manicured 10% female “guy” thing kind of automatically disassociates me with them.

        46. I’d go to school dances (and later, dance clubs in the 1980’s) but my main thing was to hit up girls at their table(s). Seemed to work out ok.

        47. I took a class in college to fill out some requirement. I will take my wife out once every couple weeks and do a dinner/dance thing at this hall. It really is fun to do as a married couple.

        48. Bushwick in the 80s….
          Jaysus, you weren’t kidding when you said you were the only white kid around!
          Different place today though, eh?

        49. I was born in early 70’s and moved out of bushwick in the late 80’s. Yes, I didn’t go to school with more than 3 or 4 white kids.

        50. “looking good is part of feeling good which is part of being good.” Yup! We all grown up and hopefully somewhere along the line we figure this out! Excellence should pervade everything.
          Though I’m gonna say you’re a little nuts in the skin and nail department.

        55. a little? I am totally fucking nuts. But that’s ok. It works for me. I don’t recommend it for everyone. What I do recommended is forgetting the things you think you know, trying things out and finding out what works for you as an individual. I enjoy my skin care routine. I absolute enjoy my quarterly facials. And I love my freaking mani pedi appointments.

        56. ah, made you tough though I bet.
          I was wee one in the Flushing area and grew up Waydafukoutondaisland (West Babylon).
          Everyone was mouthy and Italo-American

        57. Free word of advice. If you ever get the urge to locate a funny meme about “faggy metrosexual”, I suggest you drop that urge immediately and not do a search online.
          What has been seen, cannot be unseen.

        59. The place where I went to school after 2nd grade, had zero minorities in it. There was a family who lived in the town back in the mid 1960’s, for like two months. They moved into the house, then one day when nobody was home, it caught on fire and burned all the way to the ground before the fire squad could get there.
          That was the first and last black family to live in that town until I believe the mid 2000’s. True story.
          I’m not proud of that story, just noting the facts of the matter. Once I moved from Philadelphia after 2nd grade I don’t think I saw a black kid in real life again until I was just around 16 or so.
          Strange world.

        60. Yeah I was def the minority where I grew up. That was my parents fault though. Very young new parents running away to the big city with very little money making poor life decisions about living in a ghetto. I didn’t belong where I was. Bushwick at that point was basically a no go zone for police.

        61. Permit me a story:
          A neighbor of ours grew up poor and miserable on the West Side in the 50s. He was going scuba diving and had a bright red air tank, so I asked him (as a stupid kid might):
          “what’ll you do if a shark comes after you for the red tank?”
          Without a pause he tells me:
          “I’d say fuck you – am from ninth avenoo!”
          I always respected the city-bred. We kinda lost something in exchange for the lawns and ample parking.

        62. Ha. And that was a tough area. That’s back when the westies were a formidable gang

        63. Got to admit, there is something to what you are saying. Not every crowd views it the same. Here in the middle of Utah, dancing is pretty big and not thought of as feminine at all. If I did the same where I grew up, I would probably would get some cat-calls or something obnoxious.

        64. Wow. I’m all for skin care but that is taking it to a level… I’m not even sure I wanted to know existed.
          But erm… yeah, manicures are essential.
          😀
          As for the clothes part… you mean everybody doesn’t do that!? 😀 (I’ve been away from the US for awhile now…)

      3. Of course that’s how it works and they meet to play domino during those closed doors meetings like the Bilderberg group.

  32. I understand your concerns with being trapped in a dialectic, but natural selection is itself a dialectic. The product needs to be more suitable for the environment than what came previously. THIS nationalism is simply part of evolution, a product of natural selection.

  33. My thought is that this US election cycle has proposed the ideal solution to the problem Roosh has brought up. Namely to simply spread this Roosh realization around, identify those most likely to use this nationalistic dialectic conflict for their own gain, utilize hacking to gather dirt and identify the signals of when their plan is being done and about to hit critical mass, then use social and alt-media to spread the word of this plan as well as all their dirty laundry to discredit them and their proposals. Before said plan is sprung though contingencies should be enacted to ensure the education of the general public can’t be stopped via censorship or a media black out. Namely by using the current media platforms to spread the word of the alternatives to current popular social media outlets, with a warning saying “if my plug on this site gets pulled, go to site x.”

  34. On a somewhat unrelated note (or not, guess it depends on your viewpoint), Trump has not only now said that he won’t pursue investigations into the serial murdering witch Hillary, but now he disavows the alt-right.
    http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/11/22/donald-trump-disavow-alt-right-groups/
    I am supremely glad that the only thing I expected to get out of him was a couple of decent SCOTUS appointments.

    1. He is flip-flopping? No fucking way. Never saw it coming. Good thing I know if he is flip-flopping, it was just by accident. Because there isn’t any NWO, or any of that. Whew.

      1. It’s why I was always careful to frame my support ONLY in SCOTUS appointments. The man is a flim flam man, it’s not a big secret. If he comes through with right wing SCOTUS judges, then he will have fulfilled 100% of my expectations regarding his term.

        1. You can bet at least one of them will be pro-sports betting – in other words, they will be all for repealing PASPA and letting states decide whether or not they want to offer sports betting.

      2. Uncle Bob, I think there is more to it than meets the eye. This is a solid move as it puts all the pressure on the Obongo administration and Clinton has to make an application for a Presidential pardon/Clemency.
        Obongo in turn has to NAME the crimes/offences that he is pardoning Clinton for which leaves the Democratic Party as a whole up for investigative speculation and allows the media to talk about it for months and is a hammer for the Republicans in the next electoral cycle.
        If Obongo chooses not to pardon Clinton it leaves her and the CF/CGI and anything of the State Dept (email server) up for Congressional Investigation and prosecution. Obongo is thinking ‘is Trump truthful?’ Obongo knows the rules governing the FBI investigative arm and the DOJ prosecution arm.

        1. Could be. Hadn’t considered that angle. We’ll have to see how it all plays out. Enjoyed your logic there, thanks for sharing (is my Internet nephew sharp or what? – hell yeah he is)….

        2. Obviously having won theres no need before taking office to start a witch hunt even if its genuinely needed. Better strategy to tell everyone that its all off the table. Lets wait and see. Again and again the jugements of Trump have been wrong.

      1. I suspect that we have a huge amount of FBI officers, and not just ten sitting in a dreary office. We have a few resources to spare to bring a serial killer to justice, methinks.

        1. the point remains with Hilary and I said it before.
          Either Trump was right in the campaign and Hillary has committed crimes which are both felonious and treasonous or Trump was wrong in the campaign and Hillary has not committed any crimes. If she has committed these crimes then Trump really shouldn’t be able to chose to ignore them. She should be indicted at which she is free to avail herself of the legal system to prove her innocence. If she didn’t commit any crimes than Trump owes her an apology.
          There isn’t a middle ground where we say “she did commit the crimes which rise to the level of felony and treason but, ya know, whatevs”

        2. Agreed.
          Comey listed a mess of her actual crimes on prime time television then said “Eh, but she didn’t really mean to do that, so we’ll let her go”. A legal opinion which I’ve tried to use on police officers when I run a red light, to no avail.

        3. right…this bothers me. I mean the campaign made a huge point of calling her out for things that wee criminal. This was a good thing. If he drops it after winning then he is saying one of 2 things. It is either the case at a) as it turns out he was wrong and there was no wrong doing on behalf of Hillary Clinton or b) he never really cared about what he was saying and he was just playing on the emotions of his constituency for support.

        4. That kind of thing will *really* come back to bite him in the ass later. I hope he’s at least smart enough to realize that. The anger and pain out here in flyover I told you about, is real. He plays with that fire at his own peril.

        5. I think it goes coast to coast and not just flyover with that kind of stuff. Basically, before taking office, he has already outted himself as being totally full of shit to anyone who might have supported him. There are a few die hards, but give it a year of this nonsense. When people realize he is just a total buffoon who is full of shit, that is when the real problems happen.
          It took a lot of money and a lot of dead American soldiers for Americans to hire Buckwheat as POTUS. It took a lot of Buckwheat shenanigans for Americans to double down and hire this clown. If trump turns out to be the assclown I think he is the reaction will be as it always has been….a very sharp shift to the other side. I can’t even imagine where they are going with this, but President Jay Z wouldn’t be out of the question.

        8. Taylor Swift will just be about to accept the presidency when Kanye will rush up onto the podium …and tell her that Beyonce should have won the presidency

        9. well there is also leverage – no prosecution pubically but you fuck off and die now old witch. Theres also pushing a uniting force rather futher inflaming a delicate situation. Theres also just keep it as a bargaining chip for later.
          Theres also move on and take the high ground. The enemy is disabled – no need to carpet bomb them.
          to me it seems too overt of a flip not to be backed with a strategy.

        10. if trump flip flops there is also the possibility that he will be the last president of the USA and a completely new movement will grow. People have been lied to for decades. If Trump is a strawman it will be a revolution for real.

        12. Stump is a straw man and so will the next president be. We are insulated from revolution.

        13. I’m sorry but I believe you are almost as delusional as people who think hilary is the best thing ever

        16. I got accused of being a troll the other day for saying that there may possibly not be a bright day on the horizon simply because of Trumps win and pointing out that in 4/8 years we can easily have an administration far to the left of Big O.

      1. Getch’ya heads outta yer rectums, and into some history.
        The Janissary rebellions, particularly Patrona Khalil:
        “According to Robert W. Olson’s “The Esnaf and the Patrona Halil Rebellion of 1730: A Realignment in Ottoman Politics?”, Journal of the Economic and Social History of the Orient, September 1974, the major beefs of the esnaf (guilds) were a spiral of inflation brought by the devaluing Ottoman currency, the influx of immigrants to the capital, and taxes.“

        1. Ottomans? Those guys are just foot stools.
          Seriously though: the rules have changed

        3. Plus ca change, plus c’est la meme chose? Say it ain’t so!

    4. Trump disavowing the Alt Right is good. Let whichever bigots that came from under the earth decide to make its own name as they do whatever supremacist nonsense they intend to do. This should give us time if the group intends to use that name as a label, or reinvent the label as something beyond its origin of a Neo Conservative party.

      1. The problem is, we’re grouped in with the Alt Right (wrongly, I might add) and nobody is making any distinctions in the news to that effect.

        1. Exactly. We aren’t a political movement. We are mostly a collection of like minded individuals who agree more often than not who value intellectual discussions and valuable knowledge being shared as well as self improvement being a source of a quality life.
          It was like Matt Forney cane around one day touting that Alternate Right stuff, and we were in an involuntary political agreement since we mostly were in agreement that Trump was a better option to Hillary by far for POTUS.
          At some point we may need to, as a group, address this spreading all or nothing lunacy that has become the call to arms from both crazed liberals and conservatives. Guess as you say, I am more a libertarian than not.

      2. Can we get a better name? Alt-right? Seriously? That’s the BEST anybody could come up with? 🙂

        2. Hah, well it beats Alt-Right! When I first heard that I thought it was some gay “alternative” pseudo-conservative thing. 😀

    5. And what would you do if he flim flams that too?
      Hate to say it … not but I told you so. LOL

      1. He hasn’t yet, so we’ll see.
        If we get a SCOTUS judge who denies the 2nd Amendment, expect revolution/civil war to break out shortly afterward. Your “LOL” is best kept in reserve, because your type wouldn’t last three days in an actual war zone. Best that you pull with me on this and hope for the best.

        1. I’ll be right beside you chief, don’t worry – to provide your brave little army with valuable intelligence on the enemy, as you chief is a bit gullible in that sphere, if you don’t mind me saying so.

        2. You’re in full asshole mode today I see.
          If you don’t mind, I’ll gather my own intelligence, being, you know, a former military intelligence operative in my day. That’s why I find your conspiracy wound mind so humorous, actually.
          You’re about to be cut off and ignored here soon. I’ve fed you enough, and really, your other Disqus handle was much less chatty.

        4. I can’t even begin to answer you without wanting to type out some really sarcastic things. Best that I leave you here stewing in whatever it is that stews you.

    6. I saw a snippet from that alt-right conference that’s being passed around MSM sites. I’m not sure if it was staged or misconstrued, but it does highlight an issue with the ill-defined alt-right that a lot of people won’t address:
      There are some undesirable characters within that movement. Quite frankly, they need to be disavowed. They are a driving force that creates very real evidence that racism fueled the movement to elect Trump. Now, most of us know better and know that the Silent Majority (normal, non-racist, hard-working Americans) awakened and made a statement. But that small sector within the movement is really fucking loud and really fucking obnoxious. They are no different from the SJWs on the left who make moderate Democrats blush.
      As of now, I still think he is being strategic. Once he takes office and has real power, we’ll see what he does. He may very well be full of shit. It didn’t take a genius to read a few message boards to realize that the American people were getting sick of the MSM and the Republican/Democrat establishment. All he had to do was run a campaign that mirrored those complaints and offered solutions and people would buy it.
      Even if Trump is only 2% genuine, he was still a far better option than Hillary, and that alone made him worth the vote. Plus, like you said, he has listed solid options for SCOTUS. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, falling into the trap of trusting one man to turn this country around is naive, if not outright stupid. It is up to us on the ground to make the change.

      1. It’s this non-racism that is Killing America, with low IQ races flooding your country ho can you expect it to improve?

    7. Let us not jump to conclusions-for all we know he himself will not be pursuing it but that does not prevent the DOJ, FBI and other agencies from pursuing the matter and doing so without what is perceived as political interference or bias. It is a smart move as Obongo may preemptively choose to pardon Clinton (which he can do and is perfectly legal pursuant to precedent dating back to the 1860s in the SCOTUS). The AG may decide to investigate and act accordingly and Trump can be seen as above playing politics.

      1. That’s the one thing that I hope for. We’ll see. He’s starting to back out of a lot of different things in a way that’s giving me no real comfort. I didn’t expect him to follow through on much, but I did figure that he’d hold out at least until he got sworn in before backtracking.

        1. There its till much time-58 or so days until inauguration. I think he will take a more moderate view for now and once he is in total control then he can start making heads role. He eviscerated all the mainstream media heads yesterday for example.

        2. What good would taking a moderate view do, now that he’s already elected and before he takes the reins? Right now he essentially could say whatever he wanted and he is choosing to walk pretty damn close to the middle. At least, much more middle than plenty of his voters hoped for.
          The way he’s talking now will be much closer to how he governs the next 4 years. The past 18 months for him was a highly successful sales pitch.

        3. Because the current administration are still there and he cannot play all his cards right away.

        4. He won the first small battle of getting elected. Now the real game begins. If he wants to go after the clintons a.) Tell them hes not going to b.) Make an underling and justice department do it separetly – sorry not my decision c.) Save it for a media distraction campaign if other polices etc. Are not going smooth d.) Use it for leverage to curry cooperation.

        5. So, become a politician?
          Do you honestly have no inkling, no slight reservation at all, that he played the majority of the country like a guitar solo?
          I envy that kind of delusion.

        6. So he’s been saying what he wants for the better part of 2 years, gets elected, and NOW he decides to use discretion?
          Okay.

    8. Oh come on! You didn’t buy into the idea that he’d totally change the nation, completely right its course, create jobs out of thin air, and bring forth plentiful unicorns and fairies? (OK, there’s enough fairies as it is… We don’t need more. :-D)
      I’m happy that it’s at least not Hillary. And watching the ridiculous meltdowns is excellent entertainment. But no, I don’t believe we’re going to get much. The US is sick culturally. I don’t think a Trump administration is going to do much for that. He’s already backtracked his gay marriage thing like I completely expected him to. Wouldn’t be a bit surprised if he walks back his abortion comments.
      The fun will start if he doesn’t end up even attempting to build that wall. I wonder what excuse he’ll conjure up for that one?
      Still, I’d be very happy to be wrong on all these counts! 🙂

    1. Being paranoid won’t stop you from loving your country, but it may stop you from playing into globalist hands

        3. Don’t, it’s leftist garbage. Plus from a pure entertainment perspective, it was laughably flawed.

        4. Aye, which ruined the whole film. They could have made it a universal message, but they went with Team Fag instead. Really disappointing.

  36. Nationalism in itself is not enough. What wee need is White, Christian and Nationalist states and communities help each other against our common enemies.

    1. Agree. National patriotic movements are too small to have any impact. Instead the new nationalism should be based on race/religion.

      1. I disagree a bit. Nation-based nationalism has to be the default. What I agree with is nationalisms co-operating on the basis of both race and religion. It will align with most peoples sense of who we are, in widening circles: we are a nation, European, White, Christian. Simply saying “we are whites” or “we are Christians” is not enough, the first common denominator in identity is our nationality. We can not skip organising in line with the smallest common denominator.

  37. Nationalism is just human nature, every major empire or society fell apart with monolithic culturalism. Look at the Romans, look at the Ottoman empire, or for my Christian bros look at the Tower of Babel.

      2. How does that negate my point? People would naturally prefer to be segregated with their own as opposed to being balkanized.

  38. On the whole this is a good article. Perhaps it should have been put forward more tentatively rather than outlined as at the end as ‘this is what their plan is’. I think the stuff about shaping the dialectic is exactly right. We don’t know at the moment how this is going to play out, but it doesn’t require a rigid conspiracy of elites for the powers to be to be giving the ordinary people enough rope to hang themselves with. There absolutely has been elites working behind the scenes, trying to shape international politics towards a global system that they control (and which is currently at least on the surface and possibly genuinely under threat). Anyone who knows of Quigley’s tragedy and hope should be able to acknowledge this as, at least in part, a question of fact rather than supposition. It is indeed quite possible that in we are about to get a booster injection to remind us now that the second world war is fading from memory just how nasty things can get when countries start competing with each other, and America, or Britain, or more to the point Germany or Russia start to put their respective citizens first.
    Having said that the need is to be wary and restrain our enthusiasm for an outcome that may or may not serve our interests in the long term. Things could well play out any number of ways. Trump could wreck the debt based economy by adding to rather than reducing US debt and that could result in economic collapse (at least he would end up getting blamed for it), war, and poverty etc. His isolationism could also wreck Nato and allow literally hitler Putin (rather than literally hitler trump) to menace europe; his isolationism might have the effect of ending US hegemony (and the petro-dollar) rather than guaranteeing it. All these things could indeed be used by the elites to create the order out of chaos that they wish for (which incidentally is an absolutely real alchemical / magical principle. Trump has been associated with Kek / Pepe – the god of chaos after all.
    Quite possibly though, those who are claiming the elites don’t operate world history as so many infallible puppet-masters are right. I suspect the dialectical approach Roosh is outlining is correct – one can almost feel the argument being played out here – but that doesn’t necessarily mean that most of what we see isn’t effectively being improvised.
    The ‘puppet’ / dialectic scenario tends to see ‘the elites’ as unitary and monolithic, but there is perhaps more evidence to suggest that a globalist establishment that was operating pretty much as a unity (at least under american petro-dollar hegemony) has yielded now in part or whole (probably part) to internal division.
    The appointment of Bannon, and the Brietbart side of things, might well suggest very genuine differences between the globalist agenda (represented by Soros and the war-mongering neo-cons) and the more exclusively pro-israeli factions (trump is definitely pro-israeli). Interestingly this might actually be a basis for america first nationalism to be taken seriously. If one thinks of the opposite of ‘america first’ being not only against multi-culturalism, immigration etc but also against the (anti-semitic?) charge of ‘israel firster) then there might well be some kind of a compromise going on: america gets (with whatever consequence) to identify with ‘its own’ for a change, and to prioritise its own needs, but in the process israels right to be nationalistic (and israel first) gets acknowledgement in sympathy with american nationalism. In a sense this is probably the best outcome – the globalist principle is placed in abeyance (for however long) but the principle of national interest and the right to defend in a reasonable way those interests is re-established on the world scene. America withdraws from neo-con wars and de-stabilising the middle east but will probably still support israel (and saudi) to prevent things getting out of hand in the middle east – this time with Russia permitted to also look after its own interest (without harassment). Essentially by this reading one might have a renewal of the balance of (great powers) of a little over a century ago.
    None of that might happen, or be capable of happening but it is a possibility, particularly if it arrests the rise of china and the ’emerging’ eastern economies’. Of course last time round the balance of powers failed miserably and we got WWI then WWII. Perhaps it could work if Trump really does abolish the fed and war-mongering war funding central banks can’t finance another round of total wars

    1. When power is concentrated towards the top of a pyramid, it is not so difficult to coordinate efforts and iron out difference as you deal with a much smaller group. The disarray of powers we witness down below does not reflect what happens at the top floor. It just confused the asleep masses.
      I think it’s a little bit too late for USA to form as a nation in the 19th century sense of the term. Besides, correct me if I am wrong, but there never was a successful nation forming out of the type of federation that the USA is today.
      Trump is just business as usual and his reward is making a truly global Trump brand. Though Trump describes himself as a builder, in recent years he hasn’t been as active as he once was, owing to a string of bankruptcies and failed projects. Much of his income today comes from licensing deals, in which developers pay to put the Trump name on their buildings and have the Trump Organization manage their properties.

      1. He’s had 5 bankruptcies, out of over 500 businesses. Hardly a “string”.
        I’m not a particular fan of the man, but let’s not invent things out of whole cloth here.

        1. And my understanding is that said bankruptcies were Chapter 11 and not Chapter 7; maybe I am mistaken. But if they are that is a very crucial distinction make as the former are restructuring the business and debt such that you can continue to function in some way whereas the latter are effectively the end. He himself has never been personally bankrupted as you noted.

      2. The USA is still a young nation though. 19th century nationalism was a very specific phenomenon. German nationalism took place in an age of empire when conquest and territorial aggrandisement were both the order of the day and the source of international prestige. Here the USA is arguably in a position to pull back from the kind of imperialism that is involving it in costly foreign wars and enormous foreign debt – it is not obviously nationalistic at all but reluctantly outward looking. The federal system could of course be put under strain, but I can’t see any president permitting any kind of secession to occur (any more than Downing Street would allow London to secede from the United Kingdom because of Brexit). I don’t think the problem is Trump’s record as a businessman but the fact that he is too divisive figure to serve as a unifier of the nation. There’s good reason to think he will tone down his campaign rhetoric / policies to appeal to a broader base but that may not necessarily make for the kind of nationalism a lot of people seem to want

  39. Lets be frank: we’re having a Brexit scenario here. There were newspapers that had pre-published articles celebrating Hillary’s victory. No one was expecting Trump to win (well, almost no one).
    Like with Bexit, most parties are at a loss at what to do except hold their breath and stamp their little feet. I’ve noticed a general melancholy hovering around the betas at the office.
    This is uncharted territory for my equations…

        2. Always pull out-particularly if you have made the error of sticking your dick in crazy.

    2. Hence why yesterday they were excoriated by The Donald for their wanton and egregious lies, manipulations, machinations and other conduct.

        1. It was rather enjoyable. Seeing them liked it to a firing squad was uproariously funny.

    3. Well if we use Brexit as an example, then somehow when they (them, those) stop being stunned to near death, they’ll come up with some legal thing to prevent Trump happening.
      Or… Trump happening wasn’t in the cards anyway because he was just saying things to get elected. I don’t think Trump is stupid. You make promises, get elected, then you have “no recollection”. Yay democracy. 😉

      1. From what I heard so far Trump is planning to deliver, but it will be more complicated than just “building a wall” and “deporting mexicans”.
        He did threaten Ford with a 35% tariff on Canadian made cars. Surprise: Ford stops its plans to relocate plants to mexico.

        1. The one I thought was hilarious was Apple. Suddenly they are thinking of moving iPhone production to the US!? What world have I woken up to? 🙂

      2. While the brits were busy voting for ‘freedom’ their govt. Voted in sweeping mass surveilance laws that the kgb could only dream of

        1. Erm.. Yeah. That wasn’t so great either. Often I get the impression the UK is very similar to the US in many ways. Only they’re several leagues further into the rabbit hole than the US.

        1. Oh you mean the they, them those thing? That’s a movie reference from…. that Mel Gibson film Conspiracy Theory. 🙂 Lately I’m a movie quote machine for no good reason.

        1. I’m not entirely sure of that yet. I mean, they haven’t stopped Trump yet. Meanwhile Brexit is stuck in limbo legally already.
          Don’t get me wrong, I’m not Mr. American Democracy is better than X Democracy either. 🙂 Really democracy is terrible. Which.. is why everybody hated until now when it’s supposedly the best thing ever™. Go figure.

        2. The point I am trying to make is that Presidential systems end up giving way to much power to one person.

    4. “There were newspapers that had pre-published articles celebrating Hillary’s victory.” This is always done with everything. News Agencies always have pre-written articles for two or more alternative results of something.

  40. Holy shit Roosh needs to stick with what he knows about, where he shines, and stay away from spewing senseless sophomoric garbage about shit he has no clue about. I couldn’t get past the 2nd para, I never heard so much dangerous little-knowledge.
    LOL Roosh read an article about what is a dialectic

  41. Hmm..I think this is what differs neo-reactionaries from the alt-right.
    The alt-right wants a ethno-nationalist state, and neo-reactionaries argue it’s a trap in that sets the elites to rule again.

    1. “Neo-Reactionary” is an oxymoron. Reactionary is someone against the new to every extent. They want a carbon copy of an old system, and anything that is neo- (aka, new) is bad.

  42. A person who loves his country, his people, his culture and has solid morals is a Patriot, non a Nationalist. The former wants his homeland to be strong and able to survive in the long term, and offering its citizens protection and the opportunity to have dignified existence, without putting excessive emphasis on a particular racial/ethnic group within the country at the expense of other groups. The Nationalist, however, considers his race to be superior to the other inhabiting his country, and is much more vulnerable to fall prey to accusations of racism/fascism etc. For this reason, I think people should focus on the wellbeing of their nation and consequently to all the other nations of the world. It is stupid and reckless to consider other peoples/races as inferiors or somewhat rivals to us. The elites have always been using this kind of tactics to wage wars profitable only for them and devastating for the people.
    Having said that, I agree with Roosh’s points, and I don’t consider his attitude to be “defeatist”, like some people here said. We must catious and not let anyone manipulate and use us for their goals.

  43. Roosh, you’re usually very bright. But for a man so well traveled, I think your grasp of geopolitics is a bit elementary. France potentially starting a war with Poland..? I can’t even begin to comprehend how you came up with that. Sure, anything is possible. But c’mon now, man…

    1. France are currently butt-hurt at Poland over the loss of their potential shitty helicopter deal, but it’s not something that would lead to war.

  44. Do you now have a secret agenda, Roosh? Or has this site possibly been taken over by the globalist mafia?

  45. Off-topic:
    What do you guys think about Trump’s remarks regarding the legal prosecution of Hillary?

    1. On one hand I don’t really care, Hillarys time is over she’s 70 so it’s about time for her to be put out to pasture. She’s too old to run for president again in 4 years.
      On the other hand promising investigations of Hillarys crookedness is part of what got him in office. If indeed there is an FBI investigation of the Clinton Foundation it should be allowed to be completed. Many of Trumps supporters are going to be REALLY pissed off if those investigations are simply dropped because Trump said, the Clintons have suffered enough. If he begins walking back any more of his campaign promises I predict it will not be good for his continued positive support.
      My personal opinion is, the Clintons are crooked as they come and are arrogant and think they are untouchable for offences that have landed many other people in prison.
      It also looks like he might be changing his stance on global warming also. I’m starting to wonder about him however I still wouldn’t vote for Hillary or any other democrat under any circumstances.

      1. In my opinion, he has to purge the FBI leadership first. Additionally, those are just comments he made to the media, do we really think that he’s gonna show his entire hand to them?
        As I see it, if the investigation into the foundation is completed and charges are brought, that will be far more damning because everything their foundation did will be brought to light.

  46. Interesting article, though I’m not sure I can buy into the idea that I’m a nationalist because some globalist willed it. My nationalist grandfathers killed nazis and Japanese nazis. Then they raised nationalist parents who in turn showed me the inarguable truth of American exceptionalism by helping me travel the world and witnessing firsthand how most of it is in fact a shithole compared to the US.

  47. Good article. Lots of sheep here putting up their feet believing that everything will just magically be fixed because we got Trump in office. That’s what they want us to do. Get comfortable, relax. And before you know it, the rug will be pulled out from underneath us.
    The way to keep winning is to be as aware as possible. Open your minds, keep researching, keep grinding, process new information. This is nothing new, but few people, even on this sight, have the stamina to do so.

  48. Problem – reaction – solution.
    Brexit and Trump give the so-called elite a way to create a huge problem (economic crash or something else), blame it on the people who didn’t do what the elite wanted, and then bring out the solution which serves their interests.
    This must be prepared for or front run so the move fails.

  49. Roosh, I’m assuming your article was likely spurred from some intuition or from some epiphany. This is an indication that your beard is functioning well. You won’t be among the cannon fodder if the elites marshall up the nationalists against fed stiffs and prolies or if they drum up any other grand nation vs nation stage that they try to promo or set up. You seem to have awarness that the elites are trying to pull shit and they are. BEARD POWER awarness must spread among westerners and this will foil future attempts by the elites to continue gaming the awakening nations as we enter an age of patriarchy. OUR BEARDS will hold the elites at bay similar to how citizens using uncensored internet communications intercepted and overrode the elites by styming their plans to sack Syria.
    Note how George Soros has no beard? His ancillary senses are compromised so he needs bodyguards and advisors, but being shaven he can never out beard a bearded patriarchal nationalistic renniassance. He’ll end up taking senseless pot shots and he’ll wind up getting himself stuck like a cat without whiskers, trapped within the inherds of what looked like a clear passage to achieving some robber barron goal. He’ll look like a fool with a jug or vase stuck on has head. Lolol.
    I’m optimistically watching Trump for signs of a 5:00 shadow. From that point on we’ll see Trump become increasingly sharper as he hones and improves his bating average. Foes will line up to pitch obstacles at him and he’ll swing away. He’s looking at a winning streak if he can look somewhat like this by the innauguration.
    http://i.amz.mshcdn.com/LUkXaGTjWAfWEEx_zzH9Ju_gvQE=/fit-in/1200×9600/2015%2F11%2F18%2Fb8%2Ftrumpbeardr.12403.png
    There are cases where a beard is not beneficial. The hair follicle is two way. It transmits as well as recieves information like a transponder antenna. If a person is a con man or shady used car salesman or money siphoning televangelist, they’ll often have a clean mug so as not to transmit their deceptive intentions. Their target audience would be alerted that they’re being deceived.
    An honest and true pundit or prophet needs whiskers with a varying array of strand lengths for the full spectrum of wavelength and bandwidth reception, like a tall radio tower connected to your head.
    http://www.mrsikhnet.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/randeep_singh_beards.JPG
    You rarely see a megabearded man making a foolish or hasty step. It is clean shaven men that suffer the pitfalls of a wrong turn. Notice how you don’t see megabeards laid out on a battlefield or other places too that no man would intentienally want to have their movement arrested? The elite’s shaven war theater participants follow the elite’s rules of engagement so they can get laid out like cannon fodder in the battlefield, picked off by some bushy bearded renegade guerilla hiding in the trees. You can spot the clean shaven men who subsequently made wrong turns and ended up in places where I sure wouldn’t want to be. Again note the clean shaven men who cannot get out of . . .
    The electric chair
    http://afflictor.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/DP259724.jpg
    Prison
    http://i2.cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/140207135814-dnt-inmates-stay-in-prison-longer-for-program-00001113-story-top.jpg
    Firing squads
    http://static1.squarespace.com/static/529cd67de4b0e9ec09c0ff83/t/542596a8e4b0f39bff2f4a3d/1411749557098/Grief+Commando+Firing+Squad.jpg
    Divorce court
    http://www.topatlsounds.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Transgender-Man-On-Divorce-Court-Wants-To-Save-The-Relationship-Video.png
    Finally I think this piece has valid points. It contains some humor but nonetheless

    1. Perhaps you have a witty and well spoken way about you or you are simply a little unhinged with a fetish for facial hair….I’m not sure which.

  50. Strictly speaking, anything brought to an extreme will eventually become harmful. Nationalism is no different. That being said, demagogues will use and twist any argument to their benefit, whether they belong to a globalist cabal out to forge a New World Order or not.
    The only thing anyone can reasonably do is indeed drawing a line, both to push back those who would step past it, but for ourselves as well, so that we do not become worse than who we fight.

  53. That is what I have been talking for at least a year. People realized that current most powerful establishment (there are 4 of them) is globalist and “leftist” by nature and they proceed to the polar opposite, i.e. right or alt right, adopting nationalism as a worldview.
    This is trap. Everything should be done from the point of non biased stance, where you don’t endorse anyone in particular and you may have to be skeptic of everyone.
    Anaconda Copper Mining corporation controlled in the 1930s Montana ALL newspapers, either democrat or republican, ALL radio stations and representatives of the people. People were powerless. This was done by just a single corporation, imagine what is done today by the powerful transnational corporations.

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  56. You’re psyche doesn’t like seeing this system fall apart because even though it was evil, even though it sought to destroy you, it still meant there was at least an illusion of control.
    That’s all it was too, just an illusion, a man behind the curtain, but a small man with much less power than we gave him credit for. Their plans for war with Russia, Syria, and Iran were thwarted, and they just lost the most crucial position in the world, the U.S. Presidency.
    Russia, like you said, was definitely going to be that example set of evil nationalism. However they have just been bought significant time. Saying that, there is no army on earth that can subdue the United States populace. We are natural war loving people and half the men already pray for that exact scenario just so they can stack a blue helment.
    A dialectic can look like one even if there is no plan. For instance, if a deer runs out in front of a rich man’s car and he swerves and hits my car, getting me a settlement. That isn’t a dialectic, it’s just an accident, and accidents are more common than grand plots, and the elites in control of our sector are very incompetent.

  57. The elites have thrown all their eggs in the globalist basket, sure new ones will take their place in a nationalist system, but so what?

  58. Excellent. This is kind of how I’ve been thinking during the re emergence of USA.
    Yes, I agree with Trump; globalism hasn’t been the rising tide to raise all ships. That being said, a united world just makes the most sense… in the future.
    Ideally, each nation state should be making themselves better, till a world wide standard is reached, then coming together as a united world of countries.
    but it does seem like this dialectic is taking place before our eyes. I remain hopeful that the intelligence of humanity will see through this non sense.
    Who really wants to go to war with Russia?

  59. That’s why it’s important to be calm, and collected with your nationalism and not go off half cocked on hate rants.

  60. Nationalism is the opposite of globalism. And even though nationalism may be propelling the plan of the global elite forward, it is also pushing the plan of nationalists forward.
    During the Revolution, which freed the states from British influence and control, the states were filled with nationalism — in my opinion, the FIRST true nationalism that these states ever experienced. The love for God, and the love for one’s own country.
    And if you ask me, that was a nationalism unparalleled. There was no global elite that could have been formed before then — just a bunch of Americans tired of being beaten down by the taxation hammer of the British king.
    So, if anything, we would need to discover (or rediscover) a nationalism resembling that of Americans during the Revolutionary War, as we no longer are fighting to preserve America like we were in the past two world wars, but to FREE IT ONCE AGAIN.

  61. Any movement taken too far can become wrong and any notions, ideas or movements can be co-opted to either destroy them or control them from within. So we must determine to remain vigilant. Nationalism must make America a better place, and hopefully the world as well a better place, or else, what’s the point?
    When it becomes the dominant culture, it’s negative points will become glaringly obvious and we will have to deal with them. And those in power will try to position themselves to remain in power if the shift really does occur. I think this is all obvious to anyone with half a brain.
    So yes, we must use our own honor, integrity and intellect to vet every leader, every new idea, ever old idea, every website and everything else that comes before us. It is up to the individual to make sure they are not led astray.

  62. If we want to stop globalists (and stop globalism), we have to identify globalists BY NAME. In other words, we need to identify INDIVIDUAL globalists (and what foul deeds they commit)…who use their vast power and influence to manipulate the public (and who engage in a “soft” white genocide). Identify INDIVIDUAL SJWs, identify INDIVIDUAL wealthy Marxist globalists, identify INDIVIDUAL corrupt leftist members of the mainstream media, and identify INDIVIDUAL corrupt politicians. Then we have to identify what companies, media outlets, and organizations they fund and control.
    The corrupt leftists might believe in collectivism, but their groups are still comprised of INDIVIDUALS. Focus on combating these corrupt SJW INDIVIDUALS and globalist INDIVIDUALS, and then we can tear out the rot.

  63. Good read, but I’m sensing a bit of the same (unsound) notion that there can be coexistence as long as everyone stays in their lanes and accepts that they’re on terminal glide. Playing defense is a non starter too (back to the false coexistence assumption).
    Offense is, IMO, the only COA. Identify the globalists traitors, crank up the info ops, purge the globalists from gvt positions (and the sneaky Gramsci slugs while the irons hot), academia, LE, Mil… . See it (correctly) as an existential conflict, or die by a thousand cuts, generation after generation until everyone is sufficiently obedient and in their assigned places.

  64. With a nationalist Russia and a nationalist United States, there is no force for globalization. The EU? Seriously?

  65. It is easy for smart, learned men to over complicate matters. Nationalism is more natural than globalism. People want control over their lives. By over complicating things we can end up chasing our tails. Keep focused.

  66. Well…no.
    Something is missing from this article…and it’s race AND religion. Nationalism is not born out of a void. You can not separate nationalism from race and – this is a crucial point – religion. It’s a triangle, nationalism, race, religion. They go together and each one cannot exist without the other two. And for white people, the religion is Christianity.
    Other non-white societies have other religions and other nationalisms, but they don’t have the triangle nationalism-race-Christianity.
    Of all societies, white societies are the most problematic for the elites, because of Christianity. White societies that have an intact triangle, are unbeatable. The reason lies specifically in Christianity. Islam has taqqyia and Judaism has conversos, that is, you are allowed to lie and declare yourself a Christian, even though you are not really, and remain a Muslim or a Jew. Christianity has no such thing – you must declare yourself a Christian no matter what, regardless of consequences, and this is exactly the modus operandi of White societies – if you believe in something, you must OPENLY stand for it.
    This behaviour has maintained racial purity and allowed white nations to surge well above the rest, in terms of civilization and progress.
    And it’s exactly this triangle that progressives have tried to break since after WW2. Make it look like race is something, nationalism is something else and religion is still something else.
    And when you break these bindings, you have beaten the white race and its civilization.
    Now, Roosh means well, but – he’s not white. He did not grow up in a white family. His family is a realization of the 1965 dream of Jacob Javits, a multicultural America.
    He does not know how white people fight and win, and that is, being upfront and crystal clear about their intentions. No 4d chess games and triple-guessing. That’s the elite’s way of fighting, and it only works after those magic bindings have been broken.

  67. The “whites only” segment of the alt-right is retarded. They’re essentially recognize the insanity of leftist identity politics–and its key role in balkanization and furthering communist goals–yet they decide to embrace it instead of rising above it with something better.

  68. I’ve been arguing against White Nationalism all day. And I can understand this. I’m not a cuck or anything, but focusing on things the way the Alt-Right presently is–it’s like people focusing on anti-smoking laws. There’s simply a bigger picture out there. But the West is currently too smug–mentally diseased, frankly–to consider the alternative that I propose.
    Anyway, well done, Roosh. It’s cool to know we were on the same page for a minute, there:
    http://thehirschfiles.blogspot.com/2016/11/white-nationalism-will-kill-alt-right.html

  69. French invading Poland, really? That sounds a bit unrealistic, first theres Germany between the two, second, it wont happen ever, unless old Europe rallies against Poland and it escalates into war, which wont happen.
    One thing is talking game this game that, but this is out of different world when it comes to military topics.

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