The BBC recently ran an article describing how the 1987 Arnold Schwarzenegger action film The Running Man contained many supposedly accurate predictions of a dystopian future. The article makes many valid points about how some elements of the film’s plot seem to describe our current social landscape, but the author forgets that The Running Man was in many ways a derivative film. Much of its “predictions” were made by less promoted forerunners in the 1970s.
In some cases, accurate predictions of dystopian futures go back much farther, to the uncannily accurate novels of H.G. Wells (as we will discuss here). My goal here is to point out some of these 1970s films that may not be well known to young audiences today, and to explain why these movies are still worth watching. We will the leap-frog back in time to the early twentieth century to see what H.G. Wells may have had to say on the subject.
No dystopian science fiction book or film can get everything right. It’s hard enough to describe the present, let alone see into the future. But a film or book does not really need to get everything right: as long as it can illuminate some aspect of the world we live in, we can derive some benefit from it. I don’t want to disparage The Running Man; I saw it when it came out and found it enjoyable. But we have to give credit to those films that The Running Man leaned heavily on; some of these movies are almost totally unknown today.
Take Logan’s Run (1976), for example. It imagined a future where all the world’s population was housed comfortably under domed cities. To maintain the balance between population and available resources, the authorities “terminated” people when they reached the age of 30. The liquidation work was done by disposal specialists called “sandmen.” One of these sandmen was himself headed for termination and decided to make a run for it. The world of Logan’s Run is a world where only new things are valued; tradition means nothing; and endless entertainment has become a substitute for actual accomplishment.
Soylent Green (1973) told another dystopian story, one that rings familiar bells of depleted resources, climate disasters, and authoritarian control of every aspect of human life. Told as a kind of detective story, the movie unfolds as the main characters pursue a homicide investigation. But the clues lead to dark places that show just how desperate the world had become to assure its food supply. The familiar dystopian themes are all here: corporate control, tightly controlled secrets, environmental mismanagement, and complete public apathy.
But the greatest of The Running Man’s forerunners—and certainly one of the most underappreciated films of the 1970s—was Norman Jewison’s strange and riveting Rollerball (1975). This dark and profound film has only gotten better since its release and, despite advances in film technology, still delivers on every level. It richly deserves its cult status.
The plot: corporations control everything (of course) in the future, and man’s quest for individuality and personal liberty is buried beneath a deluge of “bread and circus” spectacles arranged the powers that be. The entertainment takes the form of a roller-derby type game called rollerball, in which teams compete with each other to throw a metal ball into a special receptacle. The game’s biggest star, Johnathan E, is being pressured by his corporate bosses to retire. We never are told the precise reason, but it likely has something to do with the fact that Johnathan has become too popular (and therefore too dangerous). Hence we have the theme of the crushing of the individual before the altar of the soulless collective: he is told he must resign from the game “for the common good.”
Johnathan E inhabits a dark world, to be sure. All knowledge of the past seems to have been forgotten or deliberately suppressed. One unsettling scene involves the main character going to an archive and being told that no information about the 13th century is available. This kind of scene—or something similar—hits too close to home for us to laugh along with it. The past doesn’t matter because everyone’s existence is designed to serve the corporate master. Knowledge has been replaced by emotion, and wisdom by blood-lust. “Comfort is freedom,” as one of the female characters says, chillingly echoing the ethic of too many people today. The climactic scene of the film, with its orgy of violence, suggests that the individual can indeed triumph over its environment, but only at a cost that few are willing to pay.
I can’t end this article without mentioning what may be the granddaddy of all the modern dystopian stories: H.G. Wells’s When the Sleeper Wakes. Published in serialized form in 1899, it was later reworked into a novel named The Sleeper Awakes (1910). The future it predicts is one of unrestrained commercialism, complete corporate control, and the sinister manipulation of the masses by a few privileged elites.
The basic plot describes the awakening from a coma-like sleep of a man named Graham after a couple hundred years. He finds that he controls a sizeable part of the world but his “assets” are run by a trust named the White Council. There are rebels who want to overthrow the existing order, but they seem to be no better than the despots who currently run the show. When The Sleeper Wakes anticipates nearly all the motifs of the modern dystopian science fiction tale, and does it with the style and wit that could only come from Wells’s pen. People get all their information from “babble machines” that pump out fluff news stories (the first literary reference to so-called “fake news”); people can go to “pleasure cities” to have their intimate needs serviced.
It’s hard to believe that it has been thirty years since the appearance of the The Running Man. If you want to delve deeper into the dystopian genre, you owe it to yourself to give these older movies a close look. “The future isn’t what it used to be,” goes the old adage. But after watching these movies and checking out When the Sleeper Wakes, you may feel differently.
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291 thoughts on “How Old Dystopian Science Fiction Predicted Our Future”
I think they* were not prescient, but knowledgeable of history.
Seems has occurred so many times before, such as Sodom and Gomorrah (not that there’s anything wrong with that).
The US founding fathers knew…
including rand, huxley, orwell, vonnegut
Yes! Im so glad you referenced Rollerball. Too few people have this gem.
These arent so old, but should be seen:
Cordwainer Smith, who wrote other dystopian classics, like Mother Hitton’s Little Kittens…
H.G. Wells was an active member of the Fabian Society, so he was simply psychologically conditioning the public to accept the stages of the New World Order as if they were self-evident.
H.G.’s writings were a blueprint to create, and not mere idle reflections of an intelligent curious man.
Great article, btw. I recommend you watching this film if you haven’t yet seen it.
What do you know about Philip K Dick? A lot of his ideas seem to be coming to pass
Don’t forget Heinlein!
I can grok that.
He worked with Heywood J. Bleuxmi
Never heard of him before.
I got a copy of all of his short stories on my kindle. A few of the best include “The Pre Persons” which is an indictment of feminism and abortion which got him actual hate mail from a feminist sci-fi author! Cyril M Kornbluth wrote The Marching Morons which is a social darwinistic tale that has been referred to or inspired Idiocracy and also Robocop segments.
Ok, I did a little bit of digging and my initial verdict is that he is most probably an intelligence asset who has been mind controlled through methods described in MK-Ultra or similar.
The reason I say that is because he claims to have based his predictions on hallucinations and in the video below he says “we are living in a computer programmed reality”. When someone is try to tell you that this reality is not real it is a huge red flag.
He is basically an agent assigned to make people follow his misdirection while the rich keep looting.
Either that (MK-ed), or…he’s a totally fictional construct. A straw man, hatched in a CIA think tank. And some actor plays his role, if interviewed, etc. And his books were written by agents in a basement in Langley. Lot of that going around.
Surprised he didn’t make it into the article. although there were several movies made from his books.
Such as the Blade Runner movie mentioned in the comments above. The Philip K. Dick book upon which it was based was titled, “Do Androids Dream of Electronic Sheep?”
Can you please tell me the exact specifications to build the perfect tinfoil hat?
Only an idiot as yourself would need specifications for something like that! LOL
That’s precisely the reason I need that hat!! The reptilians/illuminati/greyaliens from Area51 are targeting me with blue but invisible rays that make me so stupid I can’t build the tinfoil hat to block their rays!!
Please help me! you are the only one who can do it!! please!!
Nobody can save an idiot from himself … even I can’t, sorry. lol
Cut a strip of tinfoil at exactly π length in feet, then wrap it around your head in a counter clockwise fashion. Only exact π length will do because otherwise aliens/illuminati/sorcerers/THEY/SJWs/rabbits/lab rats/sea otters/ex-girlfriends can still read your mind!!
😉 😉 😉
And for my next suggestion I’ll talk about perpetual motion! 😀
Working on it like right now…..and I suspect that fatherofthree is part of them….
This film is great to watch while stoned. H.G. Wells “predicted” cell phones, tanks, atomic bombs, automatic doors, and genetic engineering, among other things. Wells was a major player behind the creation of the League of Nations (a forerunner to the U.N.), penning the pre-WWII booklets, “The Idea of a League of Nations”, “Prolegomena to the Study of World Organization”, and “The Way of the League of Nations”. In 1934, he visited personally with FDR in the U.S. and Stalin in Moscow. After visiting with FDR, H.G. declared that the “United States…[was] the most effective transmitting instrument possible for the coming of the new world order.”
Most Masonic historians claim he wasn’t a card-carrying member of the order, but I have to laugh at that one. Masons claim a lot of things that aren’t true. “Scottish Rite Magazine” referred to him as “a Masonic prophet”, and Wells’ work was rife with Masonic imagery and symbols. It isn’t that he was a visionary, so much as he was a conditioning agent for the masses, coaxing them into accepting future technological, surveillance, and military weaponry changes while softening them up for accepting the notion of a world government, (NWO) where there is no war, and only peace and prosperity for all (underneath jackbooted fascism). Mission accomplished on Wells’ part.
And yet we still get people like GoJ saying: there is no conspiracy and people are incapable of keeping a big secret like that.
Hmm, wonder why he keeps insisting on that …
If you own everything (cops and media included), it’s easy as hell to keep things a secret. As for why certain people insist there aren’t any conspiracies, well, you’d have to be a mindreader to know for sure…
he must be IN ON IT!!!!!!!!!!
I think Roosh said it that conspiracies on the level of international affairs are basically just bigger versions of the conspiracies developed by families over the dinner table.
If one can claim that local mafia is “conspiring” against the outside public, one can make a reasonable comparison that elite international groups are conspiring against the global public.
Oh? Where did I say that there is no conspiracy (-ies)?
Who insists that there aren’t any conspiracies?
I don’t think anyone here says there are “no” conspiracies but to say it’s all “one big one” is stretchng it for most, myself included.
I look at lot of these as grey areas, neither totally true no absolutley wrong for example anyhting Julian assange says.
I certaionly don’t take it wihtout a grain of salt but wouldn’t dismiss entirely..
There is no conspiracy. There are many like minded people and useful idiots working towards the same goals. They have infighting and overlapping groups. They have conferences. They have NGOs, the foundations and such. There’s no organized conspiracy. There’s no pyramidal power structure running back to David Rockefeller. It’s just people with common interests and goals working towards them.
Harvard, Princeton, Yale. The blue shoe boys…. they all come from the same lines of thinking, go to the same schools, etc and so on. No need for a conspiracy. Just simple meetings on how to achieve their ideas for society.
They’ll bring new wealthy people into the fold after a period of hazing, provided they get the correct mindset. People like Bill Gates for instance.
I just see normal human stuff going on. Standard control freak we’re better than poors and get to manage society crap that’s been going on for thousands of years. People believing their own shit too.
As for keeping secrets, that’s easy too. Ridicule and other forms of social isolation works wonders for that. A secret is kept if nobody believes the person who tells it.
They are. It’s just normal human stuff that people have in their personal and work lives. The stakes are bigger. We’re just supposed to believe Bob and Mike will conspire for their personal benefit at work for peanuts but it doesn’t happen for the big stakes in government.
The man said there’s no conspiracy and wrote a whole essay about a conspiracy. Well done!
Conspiracy in this usage implies a secret master plan with some central command. There is no secret master plan. No central command. No grand conspiracy to keep secret. It’s using media and schools and whatever to get people on board with certain ideas. Then funding those who will advance those ideas. Getting them elected. Picking people from the “right” schools and so on. It’s just human society and the way it has been for thousands of years.
It’s like Carlin said, it’s a club and you ain’t in it.
“Jonathan!” [starts as whisper and builds] “Jonathan! Jonathan! Jonathan! Jonathan! Jonathan! Jonathan!”
I cannot recommend “Battle Royale” enough to ROK readers. It’s like a turn of the Millennium Japanese Roller-Ball, except it’s participants are (mostly) unwilling. It’s got the same dystopian near-future premise as most of the movies featured in this article.
“In the near future, the economy has collapsed, unemployment has soared and juvenile crime has exploded. Fearful of their nation’s youth, the Japanese government passes The BR Law: Each year, a 9th grade class is sent to a remote island where they will be locked into exploding neck collars, given a random weapon, and forced to hunt and kill each other until there is only one survivor left.”
I think it was inspiration for Hunger Games series
and the female author denied any kind of knowledge of Battle Royale when she wrote it, and BR is a far superior product
I also remember that Tarantino supposedly said that it was his favorite action movie.
Another ripoff artist- takes one to know one 🙂
BR is a great movie. When this hunger games shit came out I was like “WTF they just ripped off Battle Royale”
I thought it was a rip-off of Running Man
lol inspiration or direct rip-off?
Movie was terrific. Mockingjayfuck, Diversucks carbon copy losers
Here is another prophetic movie….
I mean look at the cultural appropriation going on!
I need to buy that flick. Classic. Considering the rank incompetence of the TSA, I always think of this scene when going through airport security:
Did you notice the sound effects when people walk thru are from Family Feud? I need to watch this movie now
both of them are just so great.
Ha! I always recall when the slut was doing her spiel about “I don’t think we are going to make out alive..” and the camera pans back showing a row of guys waiting in line.
Cue up “Kentucky Fried Movie”
and “Amazon women on the moon” too.
“I like (my coffee) black – like my men…”
wall to wall bits in that movie!
Triggering the Stormcucks
Thanks for the reminder, LOL that is exactly homeyland security right there.
YES! Exactly! That is their level of stupidity!!!! 😀
As soon as the body scanners came out all I could think of was Airplane 2. And they work pretty much the same way.
I feel so triggered after seeing that scene!! 😀
Wild Palms- ABC mini series, overlook the fact James Belushi is the star
Childhood’s End- SciFi channel miniseries based on Clarke’s novel
“Wild Palms” – awesome mini-series. In-your-face truth served up with a side of darkly accurate predictions.
Wild Palms was great. Also twin peaks of course.
Twin Peaks is good, but not as good as The Tilted Kilt.
Twin Peaks is good, but the girls are better at The Tilted Kilt.
haha, oh I didn’t see the picture before.
It was a little ambiguous before I added the picture. Here’s a Twin Peaks girl, I don’t like the outfits as well as the ones The Tilted Kilt girls wear. I like that plaid-skirt schoolgirl look. It’s a matter of taste, uh-huh, no doubt.
lol….I am guessing this is a hooters like chain I’ve never heard of?
Twin Peaks had a dystopian sci-fi vibe to it? It was on tv a little before my time(meaning bedtime)
Yessir. Wait a few more years and all breastaurants will offer sex on the side. And sports betting. Have a meal, down a cold brew, get a blowjob from a hottie, and bet on your favorite team. Return of the Wild West saloons (where you’d bang saloon girls and gamble on poker, Faro, etc.). Yee-haw and giddyup, history repeats itself.
From what I understand that was basically how Naples worked during the Second World War. Soldier would show up, mama would cook dinner, sew up some socks whatever, papa would give you a haircut and shave and you would bone the daughter.
Yes, and I like where this is going. Take care of the man’s basic needs. If it’s for a price, that’s even better. And people say us guys have nothing to look forward to, pfft.
That is basically how it works now only you have to be charming and also wait until her shift is over.
Haha, yes. I’ve sampled more than a few breastaurant girs’ wares in just that fashion. Can’t wait till prostitution is legalized nationwide, however. God that’s gonna be great. Cut to the chase. 9s and 10s on tap. No dates. Awesome.
So long as they still have the goods, women love it being objectified. Look how happy this lot are
No shit. They only have a few years to exploit their prime. They fucking love it. I see nothing wrong with it, and they obviously don’t either. Fat feminists might object, and well…who cares. Heh.
Sounds good to me.
Yup. If H.G. Wells were alive he’d nod in my direction on that prediction. It’s gonna be great.
to be fair, I enjoy being objectified too. When I go into a bar and a hot woman comes over and starts talking to me and is touching my arms of my chest and she makes absolutely no bones about the fact that she wants me to fuck her I think it is great. People like to be looked at as objects of sexual interest — all people
Absolutely. Getting the best pussy is part of the realm of guys with the best attributes. Girls get the best guys due to their own top-shelf attributes. I fucking love it.
even beyond getting the pussy. This morning in the gym I was walking past the treadmills and some girl give me a smile that nearly made me blush. It made my whole morning.
I get a major kick out of the affirmation of my physical attributes as well. It just makes a red-blooded person feel good.
yep, war is hell…
Isn’t that pretty much Thailand?
From what I’ve heard…never been. You?
Never been there either. Thought it had a rep as a seedy ‘sex tourism’ hot spot.
According to a few guys in here it is. And I met a guy a couple weeks back who showed me photos of the hot girls he had in his hotel room. He said it was as cheap as a decent Thai meal to bang ’em. Must be some truth to it.
Nice pic but do they look like that in real life? When I go to the local breastaraunt its not as advertised.
I’ve only been to one Tilted Kilt – Scottsdale AZ. The girls run the gamut there, from WB to WKTB (Would Kill to Bang). Most breastaurants have a mix that is nowhere near that good. Like the typical Hooters. I think it depends on which ones you go to. Vegas Hooters, prime stuff, especially on the weekends.
A few years ago my whole department at our biannual meeting went to a tilted kilt after the first day. Hot little thing waiting on us, and I employed pretty good aloof game by ignoring her other than to get food. Although I couldn’t follow up, I got missed, my lap invaded by her frequently and a number passed. Course the rest of the group was fat, so I won in that category.
“I want the biggest platter of your clams. I’m not leaving this place until I have every single clam in here”
They look pretty hot around these parts. The management around my stomping grounds, which is demographically 91% white (I’m not making that number up, btw) seems to have a fetish for brown girls though. I don’t mind a pretty brown girl but she generally doesn’t fit in among the rest of the waitresses or patrons most of the time.
Here, we agree fully. A woman is rarely happier than when she is primped up at her best to look desirable for men, and is then presented to men.
We are objects of sexual interest. Our entire existence is predicated on sexual reproduction continuing the species, it only stands to reason that we see members of the opposite primarily in terms of sex and later, in how to deal with the results of sex, children (in nature I mean, not in The Pill/Abortion times).
God bless the girls that have objectified me.
awww but the pill / abortion times rule!
BTW: Not sure if you were around for it, @bem and the rest of the boys learned a very valuable lesson this week. We are all a bunch of homos. As it turns out, wanting to have sex for any reason other than procreation is totally gay. So I am guessing we are going to need some leather hats or something now.
Yeah they made a whole song about black babies suddenly appearing in Napoli after the war. Didn’t say much for Napoletani really…. 😉
old Italian woman once told me (this was my friend’s mother) “All Naples woman is slut”
Since I’m actually in Italia at the moment….
I think she may have been right. 🙂
Twin peaks too clearly links middle class white girl sluttiness as a symptom of privilege, status and hollowness. She’s an unproductive victim for them.
Maybe the owners are brown ? Either way, they’ll take ANY LITTLE thing they can to get the tip of the wedge in.
Datsa’ dat old worlda service !
I served in the Navy and stopped in Naples as part of my deployment to the Med. When they give the world an enema, Naples is where they stick the nozzle. Most Italians would agree with that. We had a guy fall overboard while line handling and he was immediately sent to the isolation ward to see what diseases he developed. The pier rats were the sizes of medium sized dogs.
I like the mountains of trash on the highways outside the city. Adds a.. unique aroma. 😀
Aside from the women being skanks though, I have to say… Napoletani men tend to be hilarious. I guess maybe you have to get a sense of humor in hurry if you come out of that mess. 🙂
Oh and don’t forget the “Death Wish 3” final shootout. Who knew that 1980s New York was such a interracial punk-infested hellhole.
don’t forget Sledge Hammer!
~ Screaming black Captain
Actually, that is exactly what New York was in the 1980’s.
I thought they used Axe’s more in 1980s New York killin’
A question of socioeconomic status. Axes were for aristocrats
New York in the 80s looked like Montreal?
Of course. That was back before the space time continuum really solidified.
You forgot THX 1138!!….
Escape From New York with the prison state and constant war. Funny enough, the film never went into detail about the world other than WWIII and crime becoming so bad that a national police force was established.
Call me Snake
The sad part about these stories is their warnings are not heed. I’m fan of scifi stories because someone took a time to create a new world that we can see reflection of our present. Those stories can show us the good and bad of humanity. It can guide to a direction that can do most good or evil. Right now we have those in power using warnings are guides to make their better future.
Thats because the stories aren’t predictions at all, but only extensions of what the author saw happening already.
Who ever took good advice from a stranger?
Ron Paul predicted alot of crap that happens now, too, but not enough people too heed of his warnings. Humans are dumb.
Here’s my addition, the short story Harrison Bergeron by the great Kurt Vonnegut (pbuh). I included a sample so you can see where its heading…
THE YEAR WAS 2081, and everybody was finally equal. They weren’t only equal before God and the law. They were equal every which way. Nobody was smarter than anybody else. Nobody was better looking than anybody else. Nobody was stronger or quicker than anybody else. All this equality was due to the 211th, 212th, and 213th Amendments to the Constitution, and to the unceasing vigilance of agents of the United States Handicapper General.
Rereading this in 2017, I smile about the fact that, even in 1961, Vonnegut seemed to instinctively know that women with 2 last names tend to be hateful cunts.
Read this one in school long ago.
Yeah, likewise here. Except when I read it in sophomore English, I had no idea how much it would come to matter to me 20 years later.
I read that story in grade school. I bet it has been banned, since then.
Nice, if we’re adding, then here’s mine:
Interesting how science fiction can be taken by different audiences. Also have to second Battle Royale on another comment, some crucial changes to the movie from the novel, but both are still great.
There a short movie: 2081-Finally Equal
based on that story. I saw it on YouTube a few years ago. It’s very well-done.
Edit: Here it is. Just under a half-hour:
Another one: The Obsolete Man
It shows why our elites fear people who read the Old Books and maintain the wisdom tradition they contain. At best you have to read them in a politically correct way to document the evils of white men across the ages, as Zuckerberg’s dumbass sister advocates.
And the sooner you (personally) go extinct the better!
How many white children have you had?
My absolute favorite episode of all time. This is what I show people to get them into The Twilight Zone.
Strangely, it’s got some of that “Network” feel to it.
You forgot Brazil of 1986… A future where all goverment agencies communicate instanly via a system of pipes… and bureaucracy has taken control of every every human activity demanding paper work for everything… (that it is instanly delivered by the system of pipes… ) resembles modern day internet.
I just saw this over the weekend! What a piece of shit.
Come now! Generally I love the work of the Monty Python crew, but this was just….
I mean, WHY does anyone need to re-write “1984” as a black comedy?
I think Ive been on this site too long- did I post the “Salt? Not yet dear” in a response to you already?
No, what is that a reference to?
It’s more fun than 1984 – at least that’s what I thought anyway. It’s more kafkaesque. Terry Gilliam is a genius in my book
It wasn’t a Monty Python production, it was actually meant as a semi-serious work.
No, not per-se, but it certainly had that flavor to it. My critique is that it didn’t straddle the serious/funny fence as well as other movies.
I recall now. The salt has not lost its savour
Sounds like futurama
Judging from these comments, I need to watch more movies….no wait, strike that.
Given your avatar, shouldn’t you say: “The HELL I do!”
Dammit! I missed a golden opportunity.
Yes, isn’t hindsight wonderful? Just pick out the accurate predictions out from the myriad inaccurate ones and away we go. Like cold reading.
I guess talking apes are next.
Here’s a dystopia for you….billions of people live happy, productive lives, relatively free from disease, poverty and scarcity. Once, long ago, millions were wiped out by strange illnesses, wars swept the world every couple decades and new planet destroying weapons were invented designed to annihilate whole continents. Today, many millions more that could have been imagined live in relative peace, happiness and freedom. Most without having to work very hard at it. Yet, many of them bitched about how their world was being transformed right before their eyes, using the same revolutionary technology that made the imagined transformation possible.
They spent so much time complaining, that they caused their own dystopian prophecies to come true. Coming soon to a theater near you- White Guy Bitch A Lot-and the sequel- Our Bitches Ourselves.
I guess then the mass culling of white people during WW 1 and 2 were only self-fulfilled prophecies?
p.s. don’t need to answer me … smart ass!
war is exported, it isn’t extinct. We live in relative comfort, and don’t starve for the most part, but arguably our lives are increasingly policed and controlled (although some freedoms have been won as others have been lost).
But all of those things – you can argue the pros and the cons, – the main thing is….all this transformation…where did it come from. Who voted for it? And if wasn’t voted for, freely chosen, by what right does it exist?
Just 9 days to go to your dystopian future……
muh whitez peeplez stole muh elecshunz!
I’m pretty sure watching Soylet Green when I was a little kid warped me for life…
Logan’s Run anticipated Tinder and the normalization of homosexual deviancy.
“Oh, uh, do you prefer women?”
if you live for pleasure then it’s entirely logical that sex will be disassociated from the constraints of reproduction. In fact as the pursuit of sexual pleasure in and for itself becomes the substituted goal it becomes inevitable that an inversion of values and preferences will occur
Reproduction is for Plebs!!!
It’s revolting isn’t it. Civilisation means bum sex only
makes me sick tbh
it’s unnatural. If God had meant us to fuck vaginas he would have made them tighter
You might be onto something here as the old Greeks believed gnosis can not be passed orally but only through the rectum. Cathars and other assorted sects might have had similar believes.
God wants you to fuck tight virgins only. The rest is by Satan.
I like Vagatarious better
when you say “bum sex only” do you mean that in the British sense of “bum” whereby we have anal sex or in the American sense of “bum” where we only have sex with the homeless? To be honest, between the two options I might finally chose a life of celibacy
Do you know the origin of that – rather rum – belief? Cathars are usually thought to be anti-body / anti-sexuality, although I’ve also heard it said that this was principally opposition to reproducing within an evil world (begotten of the demiurge). Can you be a Perfect and an anal freak? I always thought the answer was no.
In a truly civilised world bum sex for bums” would be a part of every homeless campaign?
Next up, bukkake soup kitchen
I vaguely remembered the Bulgarian Bogomils and did a search. Wikipedia quotes the OED with:
‘”Buggery” first appears in English in 1330 with the sense “abominable heresy”, though “bugger” in a sexual sense is not recorded until 1555.’
French called them “bougres”, I can’t find much in English.
Back in the day someone coined a pejorative meme that stuck and got reused.
a bit too elastic
Yes I thought of this scene when Quintus mentioned Logans Run. Yea the first guy up…. ha ha, the way he looks at Michael York…. oh Matron!!! Jenny Agutter was always in the wank bank when I was younger…. especially her sex scene in An American Werewolf in London……
Her scene in Box’s “ice room” is pretty good — not Phoebe-Cates-getting-out-of-the-pool good, but super-alluring, and artfully shot.
Fine article. Don’t remember the bit about the erasure of the past in Rollerball, although the ignorance of the populace in Logan’s Run about the world around, and prior to them, was pretty integral to the tale. One might wonder how much the dystopian sci-fi of the twentieth century was inspired not only by the sense of where things were going, but that the forces of collectivisation were working overtime in the background to destroy and reconstruct memory, identity and therefore freedom.
The one that gets me is H G Wells. I’d never even heard of When the Sleeper Awakes, but Well’s attitude to the possibility of a new world order of sorts – something which he appears to have been positive about is genuinely curious, reflecting (fabian) socialism but also misgivings about where things might go, if they went wrong c.f. the time-machine and morlocks and eloi. That tension between the new world order as genuinely socialist / collectivist or in some shape or form likely to be commandeered by elitists may account for the ambivalence of some of the most interesting thinkers. Orwell of course was a disillusioned socialist, who because he ended up attacking the totalitarianism of the left, has ended up as a hero of the right.
I would reject collectivism in all its forms as it inevitably destroys the individual in its prioritisation of the social but I suspect that a great deal of the most interesting criticism of the progressive totalitarian edifice will continue to come from disillusion lefties, rather than the already contemptuous right.
I bought “When the Sleeper Wakes” in an Ace Double Science Fiction paperback when I was a preteen. I still have it. I have read it many times, and it keeps getting more eerily accurate as time goes on.
Sounds interesting. I will get hold of it when I can
They got this wrong……….unfortunately.
The girl above is Jenny Agutter. The girl below is Jenny the Gut
Shame, she has a pretty face
The original Westworld movie features sex robots:
Don’t you know that the inclusion of sex robots has dangerous ramifications for the white race? White/machine miscegenation is a Jewish plot to destroy the white race! You know that!
The Obsolete Man
Now THAT was an interesting one!! 😉
great quality acting – hard to find today….. interesting how it exactly mirrors the ‘heretic’ type courts on the medieval time only this is with no god.
Can somebody post the vid clip from rollerball where houseman tells jonathan no player can be bigger than the game? That’s a classic.
One of the concepts of H.G Wells is “Open Conspiracy” – that many people worldwide would openly contribute to the creation of the NWO.
For example, conspiracy spooks like Alex Jones play such a role. They create the perception of an open conspiracy. This is the main reason also why we see these books and movies being pushed out in the mainstream. It is no surprise then the Well himself made so many right predictions. Yes, he did muddle them with some crazy ones like the time machine in order to fool the asleep ones that he was not in fact an insider.
The most important trickery (or magic if you wish) exploited by the lite today is: The Consent of the Governed. It is also known as predictive programming aiming to condition the public to accept the stages of the New World Order as if they were self-evident..
An interesting find. I would say that the progressive movement as a whole functions very much like that ‘open conspiracy’, although it is probably happy to be more conspiratorial than open, given that with the inspiration of people like Saul Alinsky, it’s more than happy to deceive with respect to the means in the pursuit of the greater end. People like Wells seem to have had a problem with that. Carroll Quigley was another one who tried to persuade the behind the scenes mob such as those who have followed in the footsteps of Rhodes, Milner etc to come out from the shadows and come clean about what they’re up to. Inevitably they did nothing of the sort, and just doubled down on the back-room decision-making. People like David Rockefeller, Kissinger etc., are equally convinced that what they are doing is good, for the benefit of mankind, but they seem to lack the scruple to care if the public is on board with their very important project.
Infowars as open conspiracy is profoundly interesting, although it’s a slightly different concept. Wells & Quigley – they seem to have the desire to bring it all out in the open because it’s for the good. I don’t think you can look at Infowars and say the same kind of logic is in play. If anything this is information management: it’s creating an outlet for troublesome and stigmatised discourse. What’s interesting about 2016 is that some of this stuff made its way into the election campaign thanks to Trump, Wikileaks etc., but this is very much exception. This stuff true or false, absurd (or amplified to the point of absurdity) or on point, it is still the case that for the most part infowars is a measure of what you can say aloud without actually having it register in any real way amongst the elites whose speech constitutes political discourse. Surveillance is a good example of this. We have mainstream movies coming out about the evil of surveillance now (e.g. Snowden) yet the intelligence agencies / governments feel absolutely free to completely ignore such voices (or describe them as due to russian meddling).
Potentially infowars etc, also permits the agenda makers to introduce ideas in order to normalise what previously was unthinkable and unacceptable. In a sense power can be seen to operate in relation to what it can get away with openly and in public.
Nowadays decisions are made behind closed doors bu the elite rules by consent, I am certain about it.
It is the reason why the EE communist experiment was scrapped up and thrown in the bin. The practice there showed that an open totalitarian rule is bad for the economy as it kills the people’s motivation to succeed. In EE they had a saying: they pretend they pay us, we pretend we work.
So now the directive is: totalitarian rule with a smiley face.
I have my own reservation about Carroll Quigley, I think he is just another misdirection aimed at the highbrow spectrum of those who exercise some sort of critical thinking. He exposes the machinations but never the actual perpetrators.
Alex Jones is a paid shill, no doubt about. His position on Israel blows his cover completely, especially recently, it’s become transparent that he and Breitbart.com are simply Mossad’s creations.
“I have my own reservation about Carroll Quigley”
Is the reserve “down under?”
“Alex Jones is a paid shill, no doubt about. His position on Israel blows his cover completely, especially recently, it’s become transparent that he like Breitbart.com are simply Mossad’s creations.”
Disagrees with you = obvious Mossad creation? Does this extend into other fields. Like if we are lost and I say lets go right and you say lets go left is there an assumption that I am a mossad agent?
He’s a self-defeatist. Everything is a plot against him, anybody who has good ideas is a plant or an agent, and those with bad ideas are clearly the bad guys. It’s a self defeating world view, nothing good can happen because “False flag!” and “plant!”, leaving only the possibility of bad.
In days gone by, we’d refer to this as a paranoid disorder.
absolutely, but I figured I would catch you with the Quigley Down Under reference.
You confuse my strict judging criteria with paranoia. Not everyone is agent, I have my good guys, don’t you worry.
Sadly though the bad guys seem to outnumber the good ones with every passing day. And it is not my fault, don’t kill the messenger.
im with you on that i can understand how some events(9/11) can seem suspicious but damn seeing everything as a conspiracy theory just sounds depressing.
It wouldn’t really be much of a surprise to anyone if it were revealed that all important decisions were made behind closed doors. The question more obviously is to what extent are those decisions made by elected officialdom, and more than that by elected officialdom governing by virtue of some kind of democratic mandate – i.e. as opposed to lobbyists, unaccountable deep state types, masons, illuminati, jesuits, …whatever?
Avowed communists Badiou have spoken about how communist experiments must continue until they get it right, and regardless of whether the powers that be are or aren’t communist, I think you’re correct in thinking that governance is an evolving art, and that those who would or do govern us are learning from past errors. So if you are right we have a situation where consent matters, but because of consent as an end (or right) in itself, but simply because those who believe they are governed with their own consent are easier to govern, manage…or potentially self-governing. That’s where modern – say Fouculdian regimes of governmentality where we imbibe expertise on how to live and think (c.f. the the Tavistock school of change management presided over by kurt Lewin) is preferable to the kind of fear and terror based discipline found in earlier experiments. The question of course arises whether such efforts to obtain consent – if indeed that is what they are – are part of a totalitarian-leaning system. Can persuasion be totalitarian? I think it depends on how successful it is, and whether it can be pre-determined to be success. If we are not invulnerable to propaganda, then at worst it may be a control system with totalitarian potential …. it is still preferable to be rounded up to be put in a gulag.
Re Carroll Quigley, I’m not so sure. I think elites are generally free to disagree with each other. Again, your point about consent applies. Intelligent people with leadership skills aren’t going to wish to blindly follow top-down conspiratorial plans, even if they may be very sensitive to hierarchy and incentive (and disincentive) systems. You can question Quigley perhaps (although I suspect you’d be wrong) but would you doubt that Wells was genuinely of the belief that his socialist vision could better the world? As for Quigley not exposing the perpetrators, he names the milner group doesn’t he? You can trace Milner back to Rhodes amongst others, probably the Rothschilds too, since Rhodes borrowed heavily from them in his younger days.
Alex Jones may or may not be a paid shill, but I doubt that is all he is. People sell out, or soften their views for career advancement. Regarding Breitbart, Breitbart was pro-Israeli from the start – that isn’t exactly a secret. I doubt that Mossad is ‘behind it’ in any direct way, although given the editorial line, I doubt they are disapproving
Waking up is scary, not for everyone.
Considering nearly all the known world a bulk of human history to be some conspiracy is not an “awake” state. It’s a delusional one. There are good and bad people now, as there were then. Some did conspiracy stuff, some did not. There’s no need to go full gonzo paranoid because of that.
I caught it, if it makes you feel better, LOL!
The problem with Alex Jones is his presentation and being a broken record. His routine gets old and it becomes tiresome to boil out his and his staff’s narratives and get down to the source material.
He would be paranoid if it wasn’t an act. But it’s an act. He can’t keep a straight face half the time.
His producer is Jewish. I bet funding comes from the tribe. It would explain the obsessive Nazi elite rhetoric and never shinning a critical light on Jewish cronyism or Zionism.
Misdirection and discrediting conspiracy is Alex jones game with a few half truths here and there to suck people in.
Problem is, your theories are all over the place. A bit like Alex Jones.
That’s your problem not mine. lol
Actual conspiracies, unless they’re very short term with very specific goals & very few players are nearly impossible for humans to successfully execute and keep covert.
My lottery ticket lost, I blame the Mossad…
lolknee, do YOU think Alex Jones is a reliable source of news? At least 75% of the time I mean, or is he just another controlled opposition? Do you care?
I have no idea who alex jones is. I can google but I have never heard of him. If he is a news person though I would naturally assume he is full of shit. So I guess no, I don’t really care….I assume he is just there for entertainment purposes for people who agree with him because all new people are like that.
“…introduce ideas in order to normalise what previously was unthinkable and unacceptable…”
That is called a Limited Hangout and you are absolutely correct!
Useful to know that. Thanks.
Thanks, I didn’t know that term. Very useful indeed. Seems it comes from the CIA’s Victor Marchetti
I found the term through Webster Tarpley who thinks that Snowden is a Limited Hangout. I personally believe that Snowden, Assange and Manning are all limited hangouts. Thanks for the Victor Marchetti tip…I’ll look it up!
Webster Tarpley is a pretty reliable in general, although I still don’t know what to make of his Venetian conspiracy – I think it’s some residue from his days with LaRouche. Re. Snowden, Assange etc. I’m not sure. Snowden’s revelations haven’t exactly stopped surveillance in its tracks, and in some ways it may be to the NSA advantage for the public to know that it’s being watched – so it’s possible, but he sounds pretty idealistic to me, and I don’t doubt there are a lot of people in government who really hate him.
Likewise Assange could be something similar. His organisation has certainly helped Trump get into power. So if that was the plan all along – and I suppose the elites were protesting a little much – then it could make sense. I wouldn’t it assume it though….and Manning, yeah she’s deep undercover, at least in terms of gender
I think it is very possible that all three of them are legit in terms of them actually being who they say they are, but that does not mean that they are not being used for who they are. Chelsea was chosen to be made an example of…all it took was the right bit of information getting into his hands and he couldn’t help himself and had to tell…but perhaps someone helped him find that information. Snowden as well. I don’t think Snowden is lying but how did he find this information? How did he get away with it? And how fucking easy would it be to feed it all to him in a controlled surreptitious manner so he “thinks” he found this stuff out? He “thinks” he is blowing the whistle when he is really a control mechanism for release of this info. And Assange, fuck me, his crazy Australian outback upbringing is a real red flag for me.
I found the old Larouche stuff very interesting but as Minnicino said about him, he became an egoist and less interested in free thinking and more interested in people who thought like he did. The old stuff is great.
I post this every chance I get….https://www.schillerinstitute.org/fid_91-96/921_frankfurt.html
That could certainly make sense. Deep undercover does it exist of course, but I would imagine it’s harder to do than have someone actually believe what they’re doing, and believing it is for a good cause. If some in the intelligence community actually wanted the Snowden revelations to come out, that doesn’t mean that all of them did, or necessarily that the deep state isn’t divided – which indeed appears to be what the US election exposed – deep fissures, and conflicting interests, including international interests, not only within states, but across states, amongst 5 eyes intelligence groups. It could be the information was fed, or it could be an existing leak was managed somehow. Either way one can certainly wonder whether revealing the level of the surveillance state actually harmed the surveillance state in any way. In fact all westerns states seem to have done have used the public knowledge of this situation to introduce legislation formalising and legitimising what was previously secret and against the law.
The Larouche article is interesting, and would appear to be contemporary with the very first mentions of cultural marxism. I haven’t read all of it, but the stuff about Lukacs, and the aim of demoralising and inverting western achievement is important. The article is probably on the long side to be widely appreciated and although it’s very detailed I did think – with hindsight – he might have backed his assertions about Lukacs etc with more checkable references. I’m not doubting their accuracy, but what I’ve found is that ‘cultural marxism’ as a (fairly right wing) criticism of left theory, tends to be quite vague in its assertions, and sometimes to have difficulty sustaining them against – sometimes academic and knowledgeable – defenders of Adorno etc. Making everything ugly, reversing the achievements of the western civilisation, demoralising and spiritually depleting the people’s of the west, as a necessary prelude to communism – that may have been Lukacs aim, but if what followed within the frankfurt school etc was consistent with that, there may still be a need to establish on what basis that was the case. The Minnicino article does seem to address that in part – was the institute under soviet / comintern control, and for how long? If later the Rockefellers, CIA etc found themselves as new patrons, does that mean they were supporting communism, the destruction / demoralisation of the west? It may do well do, but the question is demonstrating it. Good find though – an abridged version would be golddust
Are they really convinced they are doing it for the good of Manikind or is that just what they tell us.
The Jews keep telling us they have the highest IQ’s in the world yet somehow are completely ignorant to all the harm they are doing to humanity with their ‘utopia’ building.
I’m calling bullshit. Its conniving and self serving. They know exactly what they’re doing and it sure as shit isn’t for humanity.
I don’t think the elites are much inclined to hand-wringing. Human psychology predicts people wish to believe that they are working for good rather than evil. Scrupulousness and honesty towards oneself is another matter: elites are particularly adept at identifying their own interests with the world’s interests. Utopianism is still another thing. Clearly Wells is a utopian of sorts. In fact Wells had problems with zionism because he thought it was exclusionary, although it seems he moderated his position later on.
I would say it is possible for it to be well-meaning, high minded, conniving, self-serving and bullshit all at once. The ratios may differ though between individuals and groups. One other fact I don’t think you consider is that ideological commitments, including with respect to utopianism, communism, zionism and messianism may complicate the idea of ‘well-meaning’. Commitment to an idea as good, doesn’t necessarily mean that you see it as identical with some kind of utilitarianin ‘general happiness’ principle.
There’s nothing crazy with the time machine. It made perfect sense to eugenicists and others who believe the “elite” are a different species. This concept goes a very far way back in human history. Wells just made it into a science fiction novel. Read in the time period it was written it wasn’t far out, it was just projection of what many believed at the time into the future.
The film from the cold war era with the nuclear war is a bit crazy but that comes about by trying to update it to cold war standards.
Interesting take on Alex Jones being controlled opposition. My wife even says “if he were right so much, why do the powers that be allow him to continue to exist??”.
The actresses in the original Twilight Zone episodes generally don’t seem that attractive by today’s standards, even the ones intended to represent hot female characters.
Well, in fairness they grew up during the Great Depression and the Second World War, so they experienced less than optimal conditions during their formative years.
If you can look beyond the lumpy bodies of the actresses wearing skin-tight “futuristic” costumes in this episode, this does make an interesting comment now about pressures not just to look physically perfect, but also to conform your mind to the elite’s ruling ideology. Notice that the plain but bangable nonconformist girl mentions that her father had read the Old Books and he had discussed the deep thoughts these book contain with her. You get the impression that the regime depicted in this story wanted to erase the past to remove these kinds of thoughts from people’s minds. The theme of the old literature as a threat to progressive utopianism comes up over and over again in dystopian stories.
You know the Twilight Zone was created by a Jew, right?
Don’t you have to go on a diatribe about how the Twilight Zone was a conspiracy to brainwash white America because Jews?
A JEW… jew jew jew jew!? (Can’t see that anymore without thinking of Mel Brooke’s Inquisition.)
Had no idea Rod Serling was a Jew. That show was one, if not the best TV sci-fi however. Nothing modern can even touch it. 🙂
I’d say it’s the greatest television show ever made, hands down.
dia(((tribe))). Sorry, couldn’t resist. But lighten up a little: we all love the twilight zone and whatever jewish guy created it. There was a guy on ROK who used to write about little but the twilight zone
But Serling’s show defended traditional white culture. You can see another example here:
BUT SERLING WAS A JOO! AND ALL JEWS THAT HAVE EVER LIVED ARE PART OF THE CONSPIRACY AGAINST THE WHITE RACE! I KNOW BECAUSE RICHARD SPENCER TOLD ME SO!
Woody Alan’s “Sleeper” was funny and pretty accurate.
Idiocracy is funny but too scary accurate.
“What kind of government you guys got here..this is worse than California!?!?!?”
That is one dead-on-balls-accurate statement (wrapped in a question).
The last funny Woody Allen movie….
Let the countdown begin…days, hours, minutes and seconds until Trump is officially in office. (Click link for up-to-date info.)
Awww, I had a little counter like that years ago to remind me when the Olsen Twins turned 18
I’ll bet Trump grabs their pussies…
He probably doesn’t want to. They hit the wall really hard *way* early in their life. Both look like strung out meth heads. One is marginally less awful than the other, but that’s not really saying much.
When they hit 18-20 they were really cute. Now…oh shit the bed, they’re a walking advertisement to avoid drugs at all costs.
Yeah, I think those two hit the wall at 22 proving once and for all the subjective nature of the wall.
I think that “the wall” is supposed to represent a combination of natural forces and an accumulation of bad habits that are not gone so far as to include Meth. Well, I hope it does anyway.
But yeah, the whole “wall” concept if pretty vague even so.
sounds about right to me. There is a very small percentage on either side of the bell curve that will manage to buck the trend (healthy people that just look like shit early or people who went deep on drugs and hard living but manage to be hot long after we would expect wall i.e., Drew Barrymore) but the vast majority are right where you say.
Meanwhile, their older TV sister, Candice Cameron, is doing pretty well. They really need to redo that “this is your brain on drugs” ad. Change it to “this is your face, and this is your face on 10 years of drugs”.
ha! This is your face on drugs. I love it!
and I just googled, yes, Cameron is doing very well.
No bad for 40 huh?
Is that some kind of medical condition? Hitting the wall at 22… before the wall is even close to being encountered… 😀
And actually they both freak me out. Those are some seriously ugly sisters… 😀
Mental illness and drug use made the ugly their potential was unharted
I almost hate to ask this, given I don’t really care, but how did they manage to obtain and maintain a net worth in the Billions between the two? If it weren’t for their looks, could it be their business acumen alone?
Your counter is broken … and so is Trump. lol
see, when you are funny you are funny. You really need to regularly take your medication.
Funny? I was dead serious …
but well said and funny at the same time!
Want to really freak out about a chillingly accurate prediction?
E.M. Forster’s The Machine Stops.
Written in 1909. Talk about prescient!
The Machine Stops is a classic. I’m pretty sure this was the inspiration for the Pixar movie Wall-E.
Somewhat unrelated but another favourite classic science fiction of mine is Flowers for Algernon.
I think the 1985 dystopian scifi ‘Brazil’ is a perticularly relevant and telling film to the things happening around us today.
According some people who oppose Cultural-Marxism H.G. Wells was not “warning” people about the future being controlled by the government but acting as a limited hangout by informing the public of the dangers of the “wrong” people controlling everything on the planet…that it is inevitable and that we need benevolent forces doing the controlling.
“Wells’s most consistent political ideal was the World State. He stated in his autobiography that from 1900 onward he considered a World State inevitable. He envisioned the state to be a planned society that would advance science, end nationalism, and allow people to progress by merit rather than birth. Wells’s 1928 book The Open Conspiracy argued that groups of campaigners should advocate a “world commonwealth”, governed by a scientific elite, that would work to eliminate problems such as poverty and warfare. In 1932, Wells told Young Liberals at the University of Oxford that progressive leaders must become liberal fascists who would “compete in their enthusiasm and self-sacrifice” against the advocates of dictatorship. In 1940, Wells published a book called The New World Order that outlined his plan as to how a World Government would be set up. In The New World Order, Wells admitted that the establishment of such a government could take a long time, and be created in a piecemeal fashion.”
This is a good essay to read in this regard…in fact it is a must read…https://www.schillerinstitute.org/fid_91-96/921_frankfurt.html
Generally I can forgive pie in the sky utopians from the 19th century because they really had no practical way to know what would and wouldn’t work. They were literally (Hitler) coming from a world view steeped heavily in Christian altruism and kindness (even if they as individuals were not Christian, the culture and zeitgeist was), and assumed, quite incorrectly, that this reflected the soul of humanity. If Christ can create a paradise above, they thought, why can we not do the same here on earth? So some flag waving French socialist at the barricades in the 19th century seems to me to be an idealist, but not a malevolent one.
Same for the one world government types. Prior to WW2 (and one could argue even, WW1), they were just musing about intellectual ideals that they had no real way to determine would work in the real world. Post WW2, if they continued to muse thusly, they became, in my book, evil. Welles was in both periods and was innocent in one and, frankly, a stark raving nutter after WW2.
I have been trying to explain this unsuccessfully for so long. Well put. There really is a difference between the French in the coffee shop planning to storm the bastille and, presumably, eating cheese and the ding bats that came later. You simply can’t lump them all in together. They were still calling arabs mohammedans (which I suggest bringing back) and were essentially fighting for something they felt worthwhile and were in no position to understand on a 200 year time line going forward.
If only the French revolution was what you think it was …
The original short story that the Running Man was adapted from was written by Steven King under the pen name Richard Bachman.
Great article! Are there people out there that don’t know about Logan’s Run or Soylent Green!? What the…. 😀
Oh yes, and I have to mention another favorite of mine. The infamous Damnation Alley. The first known (to me anyway) appearance of the dreaded “rad scorpion”. Though they weren’t called that in the film. 😀
Ding! That’s what everybody calls them -now-. 😀
Blade Runner depicts an L.A. in 2019 full of the world’s diversity trash. Like that would ever happen in real life.
That’s actually very true, and the point was made very clearly that the diversity had to stay “at home” on earth while the better part of humanity went to worlds beyond the stars to live nearly utopian lives.
We see only white-looking Replicants, as I recall.
And you think you’re somehow not part of that diversity trash?
What are you doing to save the white race? How is making the same four comments on a site created by A MIDDLE EASTERN MAN WHO FUCKS WHITE WOMEN helping?
Of course, I know you won’t answer.
I help to change the state of the conversation. Every time one of the spiritually subjugated whites reads what I write that plainly and unapologetically challenges our elites’ official utopianism, that rearranges a few neural pathways.
As for repetition, how do you think our enemies propagandized us so effectively in the first place? They could have stopped after the first few movies about the Holocaust and black slavery and Jim Crow. But no, they have to keep cranking out the anti-white propaganda, even though America’s new population of dullard Third World peasants doesn’t want to watch that crap.
And frankly I don’t resent Roosh. I consider him one of the lost children of our world of miscegenation and displacement. He has a void where an identity should have gone, and he has discovered the hard way that he can’t fill that void with sexual hedonism. He serves a useful purpose as an example of why modernity doesn’t work.
You’re all for hierarchies and “the natural order of things.” If this is so, why can’t you accept that whites will not be on top of the hierarchy and Jews will? The average Ashkenazi IQ is somewhere between 107 and 113. The average European IQ is 94. If blacks just have to accept their “genetic inferiority” to whites, whites simply have to accept their “genetic inferiority” to Jews. That’s just the way the cookie crumbles, no?
Propaganda only affects people who are already inclined to believe it. The current state of western civilization was inevitable. I’ll admit that the WWII/slavery guilt is overdone in modern entertainment, BUT WHITES CONTINUE TO WATCH IT. That’s just how supply and demand goes.
And how many times do I have to say it? ROOSH IS A CAUCASIAN. He is not mixed race. For someone who claims to champion science and facts above all, you seem to be woefully ignorant of true “race realism.”
Or are people of different nationalities not supposed to mate either? That would throw quite a crimp in the alt-right’s plan to mate with beautiful Slavic goddesses, yes?
Guess (((Roissy’s))) gonna be mighty disappointed…
Such an angry little Jew aren’t you.
Can’t handle the truth?
You do realize that the Caucasian mountains are in the middle east and are the source of the Caucasian race? White does not mean European, although that portion of the middle east is on the border and sometimes considered part of Europe like Russia.
Ashkenazi Jews are white Europeans that converted to Judaism. My grandfather was an Eastern European Jew and I have looked into the history. Hard to see how a bunch of very white looking people are racial inheritors of the middle eastern semetic peoples.
BTW, I am red haired (back when I had hair) and green eyed. My mother (the daughter of this Eastern European Jew) was blue eyed. Genetic studies show a lot of middle eastern genes in all Europeans (and those descended from European stock) so it is hard to definitively state that the Ashkenazi Jews are purely European, but most of their genes are.
Genetically speaking, the Ashkenazi are European-Semitic hybrids.
Evidently, that’s why you’re angry.
The ending of Logan’s Run makes no sense. Logan “liberated” these people to starve, and I mean starting right away. What do they have to eat that very day, not to mention from now on?
who said they are going to starve? It all taste like chicken more than likely.
There seemed to be plenty of cats running around on the outside. They could start with those.
Cannibalism? Just eat the ugly ones.
And actually, he didn’t really liberate it. It sort of just … happened. It’s a good example for how -not- to write the OS for your city controlling computer. 😀
Everyone goes fishing.
I presume it’s a lesson for survivalist of the fittest over forced equality.
Yeah, I watched that movie again a few years ago and noticed that the story ran out of gas towards the end. I’m guessing that it was due to time restriants and the short attention spans of movie-goers. In all, I liked Logan’s Run, though didn’t like the “discoey” font of the title, as illustrated above. I’m a huge sci-fi/dystopian futurist geek.
Read the book, gentlemen. It’s not Albert Camus or “War and Peace” but there’s additional meaning to unlock.
It’s a metaphor for enlightenment and shattering myths…not to be taken literally. All that matters is that they had their first “feast of truth” of their lives, leaving things compelling, scary and maybe hopeful.
The future ? I would bet, will be a blend of Logan’s Run & Soylent Green !
I think Soylent Green is the unlikely outcome. Think back to the Mouse Utopia experiments of the 60s. The mouse population decreased to zero long before hitting any environmental constraints. The current demographic studies show that world wide Human populations will peak in the next 15 to 20 years and then decrease (perhaps very sharply). Extinction through ennui is more likely than running out of food.
Are you putting mice intelligence next to some diversity intelligence, where having children is the main industries ?? You are insulting the mice ??
But all the predictions were wrong as they all predicted a white Christian future, when reality seems to be becoming a brown Islamic future.
You’re projecting your own desires there Mo.
And it could very well be neither. Faith changes, old “truths” fight mightily so as *not* to expire…and time moves on. The future might even be post-human.
I’m too selfish to worship anyone but myself. But if I really had to choose, having the right to own 4 wives, that risk death for adultery seems marginally better than one wife owning me, all my assets, and a large portion of my future income.
I admire your honesty and cannot disagree with your post.
From my past travels, I simply do not see an islamic future as their societies are already dependent on others for most of their needs (eg. weapons, food, tech, etc..) and tend to be fragile.
Bring on the millennial rock bottom. Arm yourself with the truth for the coming fight.
I believe your faith in some immediate rebuild to be vastly overly optimistic. There will be a dark age of perhaps many centuries before any rebuild. I don’t have a personal issue with any of your suppositions because I will be blissfully uninvolved in any of these futures (safely dead.)
“Brave New World” from the 1930s (or thereabouts) is a must-read. Depicts societal breakdown caused by sluttery and amorality in a society that has lost its bearings.
Just about everything predicted in Brave New World has happened or is happening today.
Agree and IMO “Logan’s Run” re-contextualizes BNW, in part.
And of course, George Orwell’s “1984.” Not exactly science fiction, but eerily prescient.
Required reading for a red-pill man’s education and helps to frame the battle we’re in.
You’ll understand how SJWs today use Orwell’s concepts of “Crimethink,” “Newspeak” and “Two Minutes of Hate” to control and subjugate the masses.
Pieces of it get bandied about in many ROK articles for good reason.
Absolutely a must read for any man on the alt right
Things to Come, HG Wells 1936.
There is the second world war which lasts decades then a plague, then the airmen bring about a world government with strict top down managed society for the advancement of mankind.
One small quibble about a detail mentioned above by Quintus Curtius: The article says “liquidation work was done by disposal specialists called Sandmen,” but from what I know a Sandman only goes after runners. The citizens are annihilated by “Carousel” under the false pretense of renewing their lives. Which in itself has a strong metaphor about superficial goals, The Cult of Self, Narcissism, etc. The vast majority of them were brainwashed and went willingly to their own death ceremony, with Carousel making mincemeat of the concept of the afterlife, and religion itself.
I’ve always found “Logan’s Run” to be one of the more brilliantly imaginative stories from the genre, and at the time of its release it was probably the best since “2001…”
In the book, everyone dies at 21 instead of 30! (I read all 3 in the series by William Nolan, w/ Clayton Johnson coauthoring the first book only.)
The story line nitpick mentioned above did nothing to reduce my enjoyment of QC’s article. One real gem was his keen pickup from Rollerball — “Hence we have the theme of the crushing of the individual before the altar of the soulless collective: he is told he must resign from the game ‘for the common good.’”
Yes yes, we can see knowledge *has* been replaced by emotion and shallow hedonistic quests in great numbers, here in the United States (the only country where I attempt to claim any deeper measure of experiential cultural authority).
These H.G Wells novels are so accurate because they are a literary version of the U.N. and other globalists foundations strategic plan. If you read the first documents that inspired the foundation of the U.N. its like they were aiming to create worlds like H.G. Wells described.
For me the best and most accurate dystopian future ever created is Aldous Huxley’s “Brave New World”, even the Pop songs he described in his novels are shockingly similar with today’s music. He wrote his novel after the globalists started putting their plans into action, guess that’s why he predicted everything so clearly.
Hey you forgot the movie, ‘Sleeper’ and the ‘Orgasmatron’. Now that is a fantastic way to keep the population placated!
All those dystopias are depressing and shortsightedly min-maxing.
A better story is Legend of the Galactic Heroes. Republicanism and Monarchism are opposed forces, and their rise and fall is cyclical. The two forms of government reflect competing wants in the human psyche, desire for justice and agency. It is impossible to satiate both in one government.
All those dystopias are depressing and shortsightedly min-maxing.
A better story is Legend of the Galactic Heroes. Republicanism and Monarchism are opposed forces, and their rise and fall is cyclical. The two forms of government reflect competing wants in the human psyche, desire for justice and agency. It is difficult to satiate both in one government, although Heinlein has an intriguing depiction of how to try in Starship Troopers. Over time both forms decay until eventually monarchy ceases being just (because the dictators become nobility), and republic ceases providing agency (because the republic becomes a democracy).
The ritualised inter-racial matings and Sacred Lynchings of Olaf Stapeldon’s “First and Last Men” (1930). His description of the annual maiden sacrifice and subsquent manhunt seems strangely prophetic of the sacred ‘good boys who dindu nuffin’ of recent years.
There as a Science Fiction story in which VR sex became so successful that men are no longer interested in women. In response, women have formed a league whose most beautiful members attempt to convince men to have sex with them, for free. Does this ring a bell for any one, and if so could you post the story’s name and author? Thanks.