A common mistake in the blue pill dating advice manual is that a man should never try to sleep with a woman on the first date. In fact, he should be a “gentlemen” and wait until date number three. And if she deems him sexually worthy she will give up the ass on the third meet up.
Interestingly enough the men who follow this tactic later end up asking themselves and/or others questions like “Why didn’t she agree to a second meet up?” or “Why haven’t I fucked her yet?? It’s been a month!”
The simple answer is because they didn’t try to fuck her on the first date which as a man you should absolutely ALWAYS do and here are two very good reasons why:
1. It exhibits your true masculinity
Girls not only want masculinity, they need it. Regardless of what they say on social media about “toxic masculinity” or “douchebag fuck boys” they want men who aren’t afraid to show their masculinity.
Laci Green can bitch all she wants to about “toxic masculinity” but the men bruising her cervix are oozing testosterone
Sure, there are markers of alleged masculinity and high testosterone levels. Things like muscle tone, facial hair, a zero fucks given attitude and other traits signal to females that you might be that high T dude she’s looking to let between her legs.
But I used the word “alleged” because all the things I just listed are things that can be developed. Hit the gym and you’ll get bigger and stronger. Don’t shave for a while and you’ve got a beard. Having a devil-may-care attitude doesn’t always come naturally.
Women have a sixth sense for sniffing out inconsistencies in a man’s presentation. They meet a lot of wannabes who look and sound the part but when push comes to shove and these “alpha males” don’t try to close the deal at the end of the night—she discounts him as a paper tiger.
You could certainly look and act masculine but that doesn’t mean you are actually masculine. Your actions at the end of the night have to mirror your actions at the beginning and middle of the date. Yeah it’s great to tease her, neg her, escalate sexually, and do all these masculine things but if you don’t try to engage in the ultimate act of masculinity which is trying to have sex with her, you’re no different than any of the other losers who tell her how beautiful she is and about how he can’t wait to show her a good time on his dime.
Just because he looks like this on the outside, doesn’t mean he isn’t as soft as baby shit on the inside
Furthermore, trying to sleep with her on the first date doesn’t mean you’re not a gentlemen. You can be the world’s most distinguished gentlemen all you want, but if you don’t try to fuck her, she’s not gonna remember you being a gentlemen. She’ll remember that you didn’t try to fuck her.
Even if she has no intention of sleeping with you, she wants you to try. She wants to know if you are who you presented yourself to be. Sexual escalation means nothing to a woman if you don’t try to see it through to the end. This is a built in shit test you can fail without her having to deploy it.
2. It shows you are fearless, persistent, and can handle rejection
Of the many traits girls admire, fearless is at or near the top of that list. Females don’t want to be with men who are afraid or appear to be afraid… of anything. His boss, his mom, her cat, anything. Girls want to feel safe with you and a man who exhibits fear will not engender feelings of protection.
If you don’t try to fuck her on the first date, she might think you’re afraid to try. And if she thinks you’re afraid to try she’ll start to question whether or not you’re as experienced with women as you appear to be.
Women do not respect fear in men. The world tells us that we should show vulnerability and open up to women but this is always a huge mistake. Your girl wants you to be her rock. Her immovable object who fears nothing. If you break down emotionally and start talking about your fear of water because your step dad made you run wind sprints in the rain as a kid, she’ll lose attraction for you because she’s now aware of your fears. It won’t be evident at first but over time, that story will erode her respect and attraction for you.
One girl I was fucking for a few weeks asked me why I didn’t try to fuck her the first time we went to the movies. I gave her a bunch of lame excuses like “I was trying to respect you” or “I wasn’t ready yet” but she knew why I didn’t try to get the ass that night: I was afraid of her rejecting me.
But what most men don’t understand is that girls resisting sex doesn’t necessarily mean she doesn’t want to have sex with you. If she wasn’t thinking about having sex with you she wouldn’t have come back to your place to “check out your coin collection” in the first place.
Example Scenario
So you’re on your couch making out (you never even looked at your coin collection), your hands are all over her tits, grabbing her ass etc. The usual activities that precede sex. Then you make the one move that tells the girl that you are 100% going to try to fuck her: taking her panties off.
If a girl lets you take her panties off it is far more likely than not that you are going to have sex with her. I have seldom slid a woman’s panties off and not fucked her. So if you try and she lets you, sex is usually imminent.
If these come of it’s a wrap…and she knows it
“But what does it mean if she doesn’t let you take them off, Donovan?!”
Well that depends upon how you react and what you do in the aftermath. If she stymies your efforts to penetrate that poon, simply smirk at her shrug your shoulders and say “I’m gonna make another drink. Want one?” I’ve done this just about every time I’m rejected for sex for the first time.
What this does is that it shows her that you are impervious to her thwarting your efforts to add her to your trophy mantle. And guess what: Girls love this. A man who smiles in the face of rejection and lets it slide off his back as if nothing happened is a man women can respect and love.
If you react with butt hurt and say, “Hey! You sucked my dick! I thought you wanted to fuck! You’re such a cock tease!” or something to that effect, she’s going to lose all attraction for you and leave. At that point she’ll either never talk to you again or put you in the friend zone (which is worse than being ghosted on).
“Okay so she rejected you and you handled it correctly. What now?”
This is simple. If you try to fuck her and she rejects you, one of two things will happen: she will either stay or she will leave.
If she leaves, it’s obvious she didn’t want to sleep with you. But if she stays she wants you to try again. A woman who rejects you sexually, but sticks around is shit testing you. Her subconscious is telling her “Let’s see how he handles rejection. Let’s see how persistent he is.”
“But Donovan, what’s the purpose of that? Why does she want to know how you handle rejection or how persistent you are?”
Because appearing bullet proof to rejection then showing sticktoitiveness in the face of said rejection is what separates the Betas from the Alphas. Beta males give up after initial rejection. They feel the sting of rejection and they don’t want to feel it again. Sure, he did what a lot of men don’t by trying to fuck her on the first date but a lot of guys try to get the pussy on date number one. 99.9% of guys who get stopped trying to slide those panties off give up and never try again. They often never get a second chance… that night or ever.
Women respect and admire attractive men who don’t give up
But a man who gets refused, shrugs it off, makes a drink, takes his place next to her on the couch, and continues to escalate sexually with the intent of trying to fuck her again on the correct assumption that her very presence after the first failed attempt means she wants him to try again, is a man who has separated himself from most men she’s been with.
Now don’t mistake me. Just because she’s still there and wants him to try again doesn’t necessarily mean she is going to sleep with him. She may have zero intention of sleeping with him that night because it makes her look like a slut (which only concerns them if they actually like the guy and is thinking about a relationship with him). But that doesn’t mean she wants him to give up either.
Women love being desired and pursued. They love the flirting and the kino and the sexual innuendos that lead to sex almost as much as the sex itself (sometimes more as some women have told me). But that doesn’t mean they’re going to let you fuck them.
“So she wants you to try to fuck her… even though she knows she isn’t going to… but wants you to try even after she rejects you and if you give up she loses attraction? This sounds confusing and not worth it!”
Well that’s the game, gentlemen, at least if you want to sleep with attractive women. These are the things you’re going to have to deal with if you want to have success with high value (read: hot) girls.
Plus, if you don’t react well to rejection and show no persistency, she’ll assume you’re like this in all parts of your life. She’ll think you’re a pushover at work, with your friends, and your family. Women don’t want a man who gives up in the face of adversity or getting turned down. They want a man who pushes forward and doesn’t take no for an answer. These are the men who live better lives than the men who do not.
To reiterate, if she sticks around after your first attempt, she wants you to try again. She wants to know you have thick skin and can handle adversity and push through it to get what you want which is her. Maybe she sleeps with you, maybe she doesn’t. Either way, she knows you are fearless and that you will stop at nothing to get what you want and that is an attractive trait that women want and need in their lives.
Wanna hear the extended version which includes two more reasons you should always try to sleep with her on the first date? Watch here! You can still watch Donovan Sharpe drop Red Pill truth on TSR: Live weekday afternoons at 4:30E/1:30P
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Solid advice Donovan is giving. Just don’t forget this is 2018 so make sure to have her sign and notorize a consent form before those panties drop.
With the current trendy and nonsensical #MeToo hysteria, that advice is more valid than you might think. (Still, it’s unworkable.*) Also, with the developing rape case law re alcohol consumption and diminished capacity, you’re looking at the possibility of (non-proveable) accusations that, though probably false, nonetheless makes you de facto automatically guilty in the eyes of both the law and civil society.
Also factor in that, as has been pointed out repeatedly in ROK, that ~25% of the women you encounter are insane, e.g. likely to make false accusations, and odds are that each and every sexual encounter/hook-up gets you one step closer to a criminal and civil nightmare.
A “Damn the torpedoes; full speed ahead!” attitude might be sound advice for getting laid on the first date, but don’t forget that there *are* in fact torpedoes in the water. If your inner Gift-Of-Fear/Intuition Status-Board lights to yellow, you probably want to break off and get the hell out of there.
Hope this helps!
Just a thought.
VicB3
*One of the newer whole-home monitoring camera systems might be a way to stay out of trouble. However, depending on the venue, you might still run afoul of laws concerning privacy and unauthorized recording. (Sometimes you can’t win for losing.)
Yes, I agree with this article, but I don’t think it’s necessary to actually score, just the act of trying and seducing is enough to put you in That category in her mind.
I have a whole catch 22 about scoring on the first night. Yes, this is how I operate, I don’t ever leave anything unsaid, or zipped, but I also won’t respect her if she gives in. She would have to be damn hot for me to consider dating her long term if she let me fuck her on the first night.
If she doesn’t let me fuck her on the first date, I don’t give her money when she leaves. In my more blue pilled university days, we had a firm rule, ‘if they don’t fuck in the first two weeks, move on you’re wasting your time’.
So you got to pay women to fuck you?
I’m 62, what other way would you suggest I score a 20 year old?
At 62 it would be beneath my dignity to pay women for sex. By that stage you should have enough respect as a pillar to command what you want from a woman.
There you go again, cunt. You are here to derail. I would never pay for sex either, but I’m not gonna shame somebody over it. Yet here you are, shit-disturber.
Weimar Republican,
Lol who’s being a woman here now?
I’m trying to have a man-to-man conversation with John Dodds.
Can you please not interrupt with your effeminate indignation unless you have something substantial to add?
There you again, sheila, under yet another handle, while I have used only one. I didn’t mean to interrupt your didgeridoo poetics. Carry on with your deception, dingo.
Every man has to pay one way or another.
Matthew/Spoken,
Yeah, some guys have finished with sex at 40, I can accept that, low testosterone is common these days and nothing to be ashamed about, me, I’m still going strong.
@ Dodds, I don’t think it’s entirely low testosterone to blame, women are just a lot less attractive these days. They’re either obese chunks of shit, or they’re sluts (+feminist). I don’t like either.
I want traditional girls. The second I’m near one I feel my testosterone kick into second gear.
asda,
You need to move, Thailand and Vietnam are countries full of slim attractive virtuous women. You should see my 20 year old Thai step-daughter (slim 48Kg), and there are plenty more like her around.
@ dodds, where do you think I live?
Its the mans job to escalate the relationship sexually (the man is always two steps ahead). It’s the woman’s job to escelate the relationship emotionally (the man should be aloof and two steps behind). Win/win. Welcome back Donovan.
Not true. Women initiate everything these days. They want sex the first night because it is often the only ‘date.’
Then they’re poor at their job.
Weimar,
Damned right, I hardly ever bang a girl twice, my wife wouldn’t like it.
All great advice- within the context of the current social system that is. Let’s get some articles up about how we should impose structural male dominance. With men ‘above’ women in general, none of these issues would exist, and the legal system would not support they tomfoolery. What’s more, even in the scenario Donovan describes, there is still the latent post-modern element of female worship; of which all traces need to be eradicated and reversed. That would go along way towards reestablishing order and strength, instead of wasting decades playing around while hungry buzzards circle over us.
Never mind guys, it can be done so spare me. Time to the move the ‘sphere’ out of phase 1 already. No offense to Mr. Sharpe of course.
The sphere is there to constrain thought, not to move things forward.
The ultimate red pill is how the tribe run it all and how humanity has unwittingly become their enablers and slaves, its deep.
The sphere is here to tell us what to think and to have us waste our time with fleeting pleasures/meaningless discussions/etc etc until the inevitable collapse.
Very insightful comment.
Romans were debauched when Jews showed up.
I’d say on the street level Mexicans today are doing the worst damage with drugs and gangs.
How are you going to change human nature?
Just last week on ROK:
> Sex has become an Obsession
Also ROK:
> Why you should bang a ho on the first date.
Lol, so which is it?
Was it the same author?
I think Roosh wrote the one on Obsession.
It’s the same website offering advice to men.
So which is it: should we be obsessed with sex or not?
If emotional scars were visible, porn would be disgusting.
And iff two Bengal tigers eat a bag of potatoes, how many pancakes are on the roof?
Have no idea about the tigers and pancakes, but I do know that if a duck stands still you can catch it by the bill.
The wisdom of Ernest T. Bass…
Trying to sleep with a girl after a date isn’t the same as being obsessed with sex. The first is the natural evolution of things, the second is a twist imposed to men by this decadent society. Do you See the difference ?
@faraway,
Not just on any date, but the FIRST date.
And dating is a form of polyamory.
So wanting to fuck a series of strangers is certainly an obsession with sex.
Personally, I make no value judgement here.
What I do want is for ROK to be consistent; is fucking around with many women good or bad now?
If you make a whore of a woman, do you really have a right to complain about thot culture?
If you like your honey sweet then learn to love the bees.
Make up your mind ROK.
being undecided and contradictory is such feminine behaviour.
What is this, Cosmopolitan for men?
Beware of THOT infiltrators.
I have seen this ‘spoken word’ clown for years on yahoo spreading leftism.
This is a WOMAN, as is the Jap handle stalker.
Get it together, gents, and start recognizing gynocentric tactics.
BEGONE THOT
What are you talking about Weimar Republican?
I don’t use Yahoo, and I don’t come from the left.
Does my syntax even read like a woman’s?
Can you even prove any of your slander???
I will go you one further to prove my sincerity:
My name is Matthew Edgley, I live in Brisbane, Australia.
I just doxed myself for you.
Now who the fuck are you?
I stand by every word I say, and if you take issue with anything I say then present an honest argument to me.
But don’t be a slanderous little bitch.
@TheWord,
“If you make a whore of a cunt, do you really have a right to…”
Nobody is making a cunt a thot or whore, you dumbass !! All the fault goes to the pussies (including you!), Not to the MEN. Do you eat shit if I give you money !? But if it for se$, pussies will jump ahead; because they are Enjoying and also getting PAID !!
I will call a hooker a thot/slut/whore, you name it! But I will NOT use similar terminology when I am talking about a women who belongs to a MAN.
In short, if I give money there is no need for you to accept it; unless you are a thot! And I am not making you a thot, you are making yourself & you are to blame, not me !!
Can’t spell ‘Edgley’ without ‘edgy.’
‘Spoken word’ is that pseudo-intellectual psychobabble all the SWPLs talk about while trying to make any rightist appear to be unsophisticated with most blasé stereotypes.
You are using woman tactics to derail this website, like a good gynocrat.
Nice try, though. I shan’t be doxxing myself, (((ADL agent))).
Have another shrimp on the barbie, bogan.
Weimar Republican,
Yeah, you’re right about my name.
Nomen est omen is all I can say in response.
But it is my real name.
How about yours, too scared to stand by your word?
It must not be worth much then.
Again, can you prove any of your slander, or are you just gonna stand there like a hysterical little bitch and moan and groan?
Ravi Macho,
Ultimately men are responsible for maintaining a moral standard in their women. It’s use it or lose it.
If your too much of a bitch to hold a thot accountable to her dysfunctional female impulses, then they will slide.
And they will hate you and ridicule you for ypur lack of authority. Hence feminism.
And you will be sneaking around town PAYING these thots for sex.
Coming from the ‘bloke’ (not sheila lol) who uses various handles here…yeah, I’ll keep my good name under wraps because my posts are risqué… Yours are gynocratic. You have nothing to lose, bogan. I do. I am a rebel. You are a cuck.
Matt,
Too late, white men don’t control shit.
Accept that and move on.
“Not just on any date, but the FIRST date.
And dating is a form of polyamory.
So wanting to fuck a series of strangers is certainly an obsession with sex.”
I want to drive a series of exotic sports cars. Guess that means I’m “obsessed” with them, right? A mere “wanting” is far removed from an “obsession.” Perhaps some guy would like to fuck a series of Kardashians. But he leaves it at that. Another guy wants to fuck them, too. But he sends them a dozen letters a week, follows them religiously on social media/tv, and shows up wherever they’re supposed to appear. That’s an obsession.
“If you make a whore of a woman, do you really have a right to complain about thot culture?”
If I fuck a girl on a first date, I’m “making” her a whore? For all I know, she was already one, and I was simply getting mine. I might prefer a different game. but I’m ONE guy. As a result, I won’t ever have enough power/influence to change something as big as thot culture. That’s why people typically complain instead of taking action. their “action” would do nothing to effect change.
“If you like your honey sweet then learn to love the bees.
Make up your mind ROK.”
There’s no love for them. At best, they’re tolerated, despite their obnoxious buzzing and violent tendencies.
“What I do want is for ROK to be consistent; is fucking around with many women good or bad now? being undecided and contradictory is such feminine behaviour. What is this, Cosmopolitan for men?”
you’re confusing idealism & pragmatism. sure, these guys would like women to behave conservatively/selectively with their pussies. but, realistically, that’s not happening any time soon. therefore, don’t be a sucker. take a bitch out. fuck her. then move on to the next one. don’t be a beta fag. avoid lowering yourself to provider status for a bitch who’s taken a thousand cocks and who will continue to do likewise, while you’re working 80+ hrs. week for her lavish lifestyle and for kids fathered by some chad.
Yes
“Yes” comment was to TheSpokenWord, not the Captain.
Lol fail
The commenting system is “meh”.
Maybe you should buy one of those magic eight balls and ask.
Two different authors, two opinions.
Two different authors,two different opinions.
But on the same website offering guidance to men.
Lol fail
I agree with Captain Morningwood; a magic eightball coukd easily trump the “wisdom” found here.
> & bitches just wanna be raped…. so confusing!
Spoken,
If you banged them all on the first date, sex would never have become an obsession.
But I’m not arguing subjunctives here.
I’m arguing the consistency of ROK.
By the way, what do you mean by consistency !? Roosh talks about NOT to make se$ an obsession, what’s wrong in that !?
Someone else talks about How not to waste time and getting the most out of the first date/encounter. Again what’s wrong !? Where the hell did you find “inconsistency” !?
Did you ever find any “inconsistency” with Cigarettes !? The pack comes with a warning “smoking is injurious or smoking kills”, but still the Stores sells them !!
Guess you need to refer the Dictionary for the term “obsession” !!
PS: hope you know the difference between (Physiology) “loose motions” and “motions” !!
Aww Ravi, don’t cry.
ROK bills itself as being a guide for men.
No kings will be returning anywhere if they can’t even get their basic shit straight.
Check my original comment where I pointed out the inconsistency. Don’t put things in inverted commas like a woman. Deal with the substance not the surface.
They are consistent.
It is man’s duty to lead and dominate. It’s the woman’s duty follow and submit.
(Combine those two and you got some pretty good kino with your gal).
In other words, men should be men and women should be women and there is little anyone can change those respected emotions, phycologies, and makeup anyway.
How much encouragement for “easy” chicks depends on how society regulates the sexual market place.
A sluty gal might be fun (guys will bang them guilt free because it’s in our nature by-the-way), but she cannot be good wife material since a virtuous woman will both be attractive and have the desired social qualities a man really looks for (not a slut despite hypergmy although I personally would want my wife hypergamus to me and I realize I must fit the bill).
Society can reach a critical level when you have too many easy gals and not enough virtuous ones.
So that is where man stands. He can both “enjoy the decline” (PUAs have been around a long time by-the-way) because we are engendered -from the state of nature- to spread our genes as much as we can (while women must be selective to guarantee her and her children’s survival) AND worry about too many easy gals in society because being the thinking man (not the retarded version of the beast) we want our kids to be successful as well. It’s also just plain depressing. Guys aren’t happy neither are gals.
Thats why virtuous women are always sought after despite the abundance of easy ones.
ROK has covered this stuff in depth and have them in the archives. There are also a lot of other sites you can check out.
There are also plenty of old, scientific studies, and the like you can consult but remember that they cannot replace your actual 1st person experience with how things work although very useful.
ROK is not an ideology. It does not have rigid, codified rules on how to live. We publish articles that would be of interest to masculine men and then let them decide how to live their own lives.
I am baffled by the criterion the men on this blog have for mothers of their children. The biggest influence the woman you select will have is via her DNA.
I merged mine with a total slut’s–the day after we met she (age 35) demanded that we fuck because, “I have had 75 guys before you and if you are no good at sex I am not going to spend a month on finding out!”
I got two healthy, model-beautiful kids with the highest IQ scores their elite schools have ever seen, because DNA was what I was selecting for.
This was my second marriage. My first was to a 25-year-old who was close enough to being a virgin for any practical purpose, who had even *more* elite DNA (smart enough for medical school but was a major-company ballerina instead). Neither marriage worked out because of my chosen one’s family-of-origin traumas, but the edge that “smart” and “beautiful” give people in our society is insuperable.
The man should always try to escalate as he is supposed to ‘lead’ the woman in typical male-female relations and it is rare that the woman would lead. Leading in male-female relations is masculine.
Its a good article, especially for anyone new to the PUA concept. Unfortunately it does not add anything new, but it does serve as a reminder.
I would not have married the girls I fucked on first dates as a young man, they were raunchy as hell-
There was old Olga the Polish girl who sucked me off on the landing right outside her parents apartment door.
There was the Irish girl I fucked on Spring Break right out on the open.
The black girl I fucked on the floor.
My feeling is that these girls probably got married but the inner-whore never went away and while hubby was at work they sucked men off.
I was going to say that if a woman puts out on the first date, she’s definitely not longterm relationship material.
Underrated comment
If the man does not fuck her on the first date, it isn’t happening ever. Women do not ‘date’ – they hook up.
Roosh was right. ‘Dating’ is unnatural. Nobody wants it but the guy who is inexperienced.
There are many things that we as humans have been doing that aren’t natural, yet we have been doing it in order to stay civilized.
I can appreciate that the author put a lot of thought in to this column, and it may be good advice.
But Jeez, it seems like a great big pain in the neck.
With all the other aggravations and things I have to think about in my life, such as my business, my commute, getting screwed over financially by my family, thinking about where I will be 10 years from now, etc…I have to say, I am glad I bang escorts. Not saying it is for everyone or trying to push that mentality on anyone. But for me, even with all my complaining, it is just plain right.
Agreed 100%, gent.
You’re a wise young man
Thanks.
But I am pretty damn old…
AUTOMATIC
There is a certain raunchiness about the young slut lacking in the prostitute who is trying to make money, not revolt against society or their parents.
The prostitutes I had were a lot nicer than some of the hardcore sluts I knew in high school in Detroit.
There was a certain rebelliousness to their activities-I hate my father so I’ll suck guys off in the bleachers etc.
Your average hooker is past those issues or never had them.
AUTOMATIC
Thank Goodness I gave up the skanks before they got pregnant-all of them do eventually.
What if I had managed to impregnate Olga or Tasha the black basketball player back then?
Good Lord, living in the ghetto because I shot a load into one of them at age 20 and they got pregnant?
Discovering prostitutes was the best thing that ever happened to me. They all insist on rubbers and are on the pill except for the real junkies whom I would never fuck in a million years.
A few of my friends impregnated dim local sluts as young men.
Stuck in a shitty neighborhood you’re entire life, working some shitty job because you only have a high school degree or “some college”? Watching your kids go to shitty public schools because you cannot afford to send them to decent ones and the phone call from your boss that your son is in the ER because he was swarmed by blacks in the playground who wanted his lunch money? Your daughter a mud shark at 15? Your son acting like Eminem in order to blend in and joining a gang and going to prison?
No travel? No decent-paying jobs?
All because you got Olga pregnant at 20?
Sometimes ‘dates’ find you when you aren’t really in the mood to hookup, but you can’t turn it down for fear it will never happen again.
I have never met a woman who doesn’t want to fuck on the first night. Roosh was right – ‘dating’ isn’t natural, especially to women – they are going to fuck ASAP or not waste their time. It is the women that do all the initiating in my experience… otherwise they think you are too needy.
I was on a ‘date’ a year ago from some really aggressive security guard who approached me at the empty mall I walk around occasionally to exercise… I said I will text you tomorrow… a few hours later when I’m in bed, she texts me first and I just improvised, as she made me so uncomfortable it was like our roles were reversed. (She was so crazy I saved texts for the first time in my life.)
Her: Hey you I’ve got yo numba. 11:53pm
Me: We should meet tomorrow night at (redacted) 12:07 am
Her: Oh yeah? How’s 11 30? 12:07am
Me: Sounds good 12:10am
Her: Cool. Why there? 12:20am
Me: I don’t really know the area 12:26am
Her: Wanna go to (redacted)? 12:40am
Her: It’s my (redacted) haunt 12:40am
Me: Alright 12:46am
Her: It’s not corporate 12:47am
Her: I can pick you if that’d help. 12:48am
Her: You’re a pretty man, did you know? 12:50am
Me: Haha thanks.. I’ll see ya tomorrow. 12:57am
Her: Hello again 6:42pm
Me: Hey 7:04pm
Her: Do you want or need a ride later? 7:27pm
Me: I have a car 7:13pm
Her: Oops! Well it’s kinda tucked away didn’t want you to have any trouble. Looking forward to this as I rarely get to go out and have fun. 7:40pm
Me: Haha no worries 7:52pm
Her: See you soon. Omw. 10:58pm
Needless to say I was very uncomfortable because her very first words she said to me were ‘the mall is closing’ as I had earbuds in…then preceded to unburden herself how her ‘personal life was falling apart’ and her ex-boyfriend beat her. I thought, wow, this will be interesting. I was wearing shitty gym clothes and was brooding about things, yet she liked it.
This was my official Red Pill because I was already depressed from partying, since all of the women I’ve had have been hookups, whom I could not even name or pick in a lineup since it was all drunken flings…and I wanted something more. So I was struggling for about 6 weeks with alcoholism (not kidding) and trouble downstairs (which I figured out if anybody has questions). Opportunities always find you at the worst times.
I pre-gamed with my friend to take the edge off because I wasn’t thrilled about bringing her to my place and wanted to take it slow, which was a mistake. I ended up more sloshed than I imagined as I arrived even though I sobered up before. I was just being a goofball, while she was being serious – she was expecting that broodiness again, not silliness like everybody pretends they want.
She did not even get dressed up for me and was still in that awful baggy uniform. She then informed me that she was a former stripper (they always are) and counter-signaled everything I said about feminists and LGBT, as I had recently been pushed out of a job by toxic feminists. She then informed me that she was a feminist and voted for Hillary, and how trannies were people too that deserve respect. Also lesbians were people too, even though she had a fight with her dyke roommate that ended up going to court.
So this date is just a disaster. I am so buzzed my head is in her lap at times for some reason, as she is sober and still trying to open up her blouse to me to reveal her flat chest (three different times) that she lamented. (A man would be in jail for that.)
Then we are in my car and she starts smoking cigarettes and hands me a pipe. She strategically puts one of those ripcord lighters on her waste. I reached in and touched her thigh by accident (as we smoked – another mistake, as I’m a pot lightweight) and recoiled, apologizing because I am in fear at this point of her being in my life or knowing where I live or my last name. She then says in an annoyed voice that I don’t need to apologize…and it ended shortly thereafter as I made no moves and did not invite her to my place.
It got really nasty for a few months as I kept going back to that mall and we would text mean shit to each other, challenging one another to approach the other. It never happened, but I learned that you can bring a woman back from ghosting you if you wax between being REALLY vicious, because that raw fearlessness turns them on, and then waning with passive-aggressive sarcasm…this acts like a defibrillator to dead romance.
Also threw this in since I held back on my political views while she didn’t…
Me: One last thing, Heather the Harlot, keeper of infinitely boring, self-pitying, self-centered basket-case fables… I don’t like President Donald J. Trump either…
Cropped pic of me (so I couldn’t be identified) in front of the Trump Taj Mahal
Cropped pic of me in my Trump shirt/flag in front of Brown v Board of Education
Cropped pic of me in front of the Trump International Hotel
Cropped pic of me in front of the Las Vegas Trump hotel
Cropped pic of me in my Trump shirt in front of the Mexican border plaque
Cropped pic of me in my Trump deportation shirt in Juarez, Mexico
Cropped pic of me at the Hollywood Trump star
Pic of my ballot casted for Trump
Me: I love him
Two weeks later
Her: Still butthurt I didn’t pay you enough attention whilst my one and only sister was getting married? You got really bent outta shape in the course of two whole days. It must have been torture, not being attended to for 48 hours. Still desperately trying to bone someone? How’s berating them workin out for ya? Does insulting them when the don’t bow and scrape to you usually up your chances? Aaaaaw, little man. It must be SO HARD for you, being so heinous. I bet even when you do get some, they never stay long.
Two days later
Me: Nah, I forgive you. C’est la vie
Four days later I was at the mall
Her: Just couldn’t say away huh? 3:52pm
Her: Didn’t think so…. #ball-less 5:03pm
Two days later
Me: I only approach girls that have B or C cups. 7:55pm
Her: Yeah right, your desperation reeks. #fuckboiwannabe 8:02pm
Me: Are you always this unpleasant? 8:14pm
She bragged about discussing me on some feminist website to warn women in the area about me.
I looked at my texts/pics recently and noticed that there is like a spring fever horniness thing in women because the last 3 years I have met women in the last week of March that aggressively approached me and fucked or wanted to.
If you think a college degree is needed to make money you are a pathetic man.
Sorry my bad, I assumed you were pretty green because of this line “thinking about where I will be 10 years from now”… I used to ask myself the same questiona lot but i quit a few years ago when, due to precipitous aging, the only reasonable answer that invariably came up to my mind was “dead”
Aj,
Agreed, I doubt I have another 10 years in me.
Yes. The juice isn’t worth the squeeze, with dating. Too much work, even with ‘easy’ girls. They are usually quite boorish (and whorish). I have other things to concentrate on. It’s fun once in a while.
Yeah but it’s not a pain in the neck if you actually like women.
Personally, I like women. I like the way they smell, the way they look, I like the sound of their voices. I like talking with them, even if they are not particularly bright and have shallow views on a lot of things.
Dating a woman and then having sex with her later is like cooking your own meal. Part of the pleasure is in the preparation. You can eat just as good of a meal by going to a restaurant, but some people like to cook. Also it’s cheaper and you know what you’re getting.
Takes all day to cook it & 10 mins to eat it. Dirty dishes too.
Oh, I like them just fine.
Plenty of escorts over the years whose company I have enjoyed (and not just for the sex).
What I am saying is the “pain in the neck part” is all this “I have to do this or she won’t think that” stuff.
– “If I am polite she’ll think I’m a wimp”
– “If I don’t make a move now she’ll never be receptive”
– “If she rejects my first advance, make a smart-alec remark so she’ll no I don’t give a f*ck — because ‘alphas’ don’t give a f*ck”.
That’s fine for guys who can put up with that stuff but I am not one of them. Want no part of it. I keep my pipes cleaned with escorts 3 to 4 times a week. I get what I want, have few laughs in between, and sometimes a few drinks, with the Asian one a massage, and then I leave. As I said before, I am not saying it’s for everyone. And it’s not perfect. BUt it sort of works for me.
Now, if I could meet a hot, petite, under 30 female who wanted a guy in his early 50s, and where I didn’t have to give a crap about all those “what if” scenarios, I would be happier. I admit that.
Joms,
Cooking my own meal is way quicker than going to a restaurant. About 30 minutes, which is about the same length of time a woman is in my room before I cum inside her the first time. Dessert may take a little longer.
Joms,
I actually like roast pork steak, but I still shit it out next day.
That’s kind of sad. But if it works for you then go for it bud.
If I know the girl isn’t a virgin, I’m escalating on the first date already. There is no reason why you should wait until a girl is comfortable with the idea of having sex with you.
Lol, I have the same principle.
If she is untouched then I’ll play the traditionalist role with her(last time that happened I was in college), anything above 0 makes her skanky in my eyes, though sometimes I forget my own rule(doesn’t last long though)
Even if she is a virgin, I still escalate, so they know where you stand (and don’t file you away in the “nice guy” friendzone)
My wife was a virgin, but also young (She was 20, I was 35), when I married her, hadn’t really dated, and was not used to older men .. and I still put the moves over on her so she had the idea that sex, desire, etc. are both healthy and expected. Added bonus, I could tell from how hard it was for her to keep saying “no”, how much she did want sex.
Is that what she told you?
One reason why you shouldn’t: It’s fornication and it brings a world of pain on down the line. There’s nothing manly or alpha about it.
You don’t necessarily have to follow through. But you should at least TRY HARD. That way if you’re not into it, you could see if the girl was ‘easy’.
JAY
I’ve been having sex with prostitutes all of my life since 19 and they have brought a great deal of pleasure, my boy.
If you are young you believe in romantic love-this is an illusion intended to perpetuate our species.
“For by means of a whorish woman is a man brought to a piece of bread”. Proverbs 6:26
Well said.
Got resistance from a couple of girls in the past saying “I don’t have sex on the first date” or “I’m not having sex with you”.
We were on the couch I picked them up and carried them into my bedroom. They immediately get naked. Afterwards they tell me they love how assertive I was and how I just went for what I wanted and took it.
LOL
I met my wife while we both were working in Lugano, Switzerland. She came across as snobby and downright rude, which is for some reason something I tend to favour in a woman.
When I first tried to approach her she told me flat-out ” I don’t like Western guys in general and I particularly dislike Italian guys so don’t even think about it”.
The following day she was sitting on my lap at the office with just a tiny skirt on and no panties.
What I’ve learned from going out over the years is that this is the only thing girls want anyway.
Emotional connection and all that jazz is a male construct. If the bang was good they’ll find a way to get into your head as a manipulation method (in nature you’d have knocked her up).
Most girls that are initially attracted lose interest pretty much instantly if you don’t look like beta bucks if you don’t push for the lay hard.
The red pill is an ugly truth if you were ever hoping to emotionally bond with a woman…
Exactly. Men pathetically moralize women as these Shakespearean creatures that they just aren’t. Women don’t want to date. They want to fu/ck. They are either sexually attracted to you and want you immediately or else they aren’t and want nothing to do with you. Hypergamy constantly pushes women to make quick decisions and move on to the better opportunity. None of this ‘waiting’ bullsh!t. She is already sucking somebody else’s d!ck that night if she ‘held off’ on you.
I am convinced the world’s problems would disappear if the pathetic white knights would just grow the fuck up already. YOU WILL GET PU$SY IF YOU JUST OPEN YOUR EYES AND GIVE WOMEN WHAT THEY ACTUALLY WANT, not your chivalrous fantasy that you project onto society in the form of simping. From now on anybody that displays beta behavior should be shamed as a gynocrat shill.
You should escalate with more cleverness … to the point when it becomes natural to expose your erection for her to look at. Done slowly and with style, she’ll be having healthy fantasies for the next several days.
So make sure she’s full of expectation before you try this stunt. But if she looks, sounds, and smells as though she’s “a touch wet between the legs”, then position yourself in a non-threatening stance or place, and then either unzip yourself, or just invite her to do the unzipping.
They need to see it. Our shape is designed to trigger uncontrollable hormonal responses. If she likes what she sees, she’ll know what to do next.
If that means a hand job or some great oral … and not necessarily full intercourse … then so be it.
There’s several reasons why vaginal penetration might not be appropriate on the first date … where letting her admire your cock at her own leisure, would be.
Do it right, and she’ll give you full marks. Then for sure she’ll schedule the second date so that her pussy (and everything else) is fully ready the next time.
3. It is the quickest way to catch a STD!
Hooray!
4. Escalate and have sex but just do not get rich and famous or she’ll #metoo you.
Articles like this are what drew me to ROK in the first place.
I may have had a couple articles published here but DS is one of the great, recurring ROK writers.
5. It is the easiest way to cloud your judgement and create a fantasy image of the woman that agreed to sleep with you on a first date.
IDK about anyone else, especially those who just cannot function with poon on their minds ALL the time and cant seem to function without constantly conniving to get into the hairy clam, but honestly, I tire very very quickly of playing all these stupid mind games to get snatch stink on my nether regions, never mind the failing to do something much more constructive with my time than sating the primal urge that never gets satisfied for more than 15 seconds after baby batter missiles are launched. I fail to see how not rising above base instincts is either character building or worthwhile exploit for a short life anymore. Maybe 30 years ago it mattered to be a raging teen hormone factory that had to screw every warm willing hole, but these days, I have no tolerance for women who cannot rise above their own selfishiness (misspelling intentional) and ennui. SO to you horn dogs that cannot over come your scent tracking for poon, knock yourselves out, too those who are stronger mentally than that and more pragmatist than that to do worth while sh**it instead, well, maturity rings loudly with your self control, can I get an amen. Poon is great, but goddamn it, it just is not worth the all the mental focus and financial and physical effort to chase it like the next hour is your last, especially with the inherent legal and freedom risks in the current societal mindset#meeeeeetoooooo nonsense. So much for my opinion and contribution.
You’re 100% correct but it takes a bit of time and some effort at self-improving to attain such a level of wisdom, give the youngies some time.
Without going into too much detail, perhaps the problem is that you’re still thinking in terms of a thirsty teenager’s mindset. A grown man shouldn’t be looking to stick his dick into anything with a pulse. Sex with a beautiful woman is worth putting up with some bullshit to get. At least for lots of men. Plus keep in mind that while they’re playing their stupid mind games we’re playing our own, and any woman worth a damn knows what kind of games men play and is adept at working with them.
Also the whole #metoo thing has been done to death and is exponentially overblown. No woman is going to come after you legally because you fucked her on the first date. Jesus give me a break.
I can honestly say that I do not play “mind games”. Have no interest in that crap.
Now, perhaps that is one of the reasons I have to bang escorts…that an being about as physically attractive as an Orc from LOTR…
So at some point the escalate-reject-try again game has to end. At what point do you just say “ok, I’ve got things in the morning. Time to say g’night.” I’m guessing after rejection #2 is probably the right time; you’ve made your play and shown masculine assertiveness, and if she’s not down it’s time to end the game.
What better way to express your game than to just shrug and give back her stone cold rejection to her, that to just abruptly (after the panties removal rejection) to just go ok, See ya, and walk out leave all aspects of her unfulfilled, including the attention whoring part. She wants a sh*t test, then turn it around on her, and without more than a “bye then”, up and leave, no further explanation. If she presses for why, you can tell her if you wish, but the panties off rejection, made the point loud and clear she gets no pokee in the stinkee snail trail factory at your expense. You don’t grovel. too easy, but so much wasted effort and time on your part…is it WORTH it though, that is the question.
Co-sign the rejection of her, when the pursuit gets to laborious. This has been my standard of operation for years; Even with my wife – yep , the silliness never stops.
Also just as important from a masculine angle is the occasional caveman response. Just take that it. And yes in this day and age it IS risky. But the fact of the matter is women are programmed to be taken. Sometimes it’s not what she says but the circumstances and how she responds. There have been times where in the middle of a girls “rejection” i literally picked her up over my shoulder, carried her to the bed and threw her onto it. From the moment she hits the mattress it’s all smiles.
The other one is the “too tired”. Yep just roll her over pull down the panties and smirk to yerself when she’s soaking wet upon entry.
The point of all this is to say, frankly when it comes to sex, women really don’t know what the hell they want until you make it clear whats going to happen and force them to utterly reject you, or get with the program.
Women are driven by their emotions, and for one week out of the month they are sexually frustrated (mostly of their own accord) while ovulating. Unfortunately for us men, it’s our responsibility to recognize the cues, and take control of the situation. We lead, they follow. It’s the way it’s supposed to be.
Not worth it anymore. Pretty much every woman I’ve ever had never knew where I lived and/or my last name. It made me terribly depressed at times because I wanted more, but whoever puts me in jail under false accusation will end up as worm’s meat, which is not something I want. Good luck.
Its not the measure of masculinity, its a measured assessment of the likelihood that she will involve the legal system against you in a very bad way, in the CURRENT SOCIETAL CONDITIONS we live in now. Don’t mistake it being a lack of masculinity over a realistic concerns for the law and its enforcers all based on a vagina accusations…pretty heady concern for a rational man.
Good advice for a decade ago #metoo what celebrities do eventually your average bimbo will try. need I say more?
I disagree with this article. I would never marry a girl that had sex with me within the first 5 dates.
Just like Michael Malajahti said in his article The Dangers Of Casual Sex, “never get intimate with a girl too early. It messes up her emotional radar and clouds your judgment.”
It is ok if she is a slut though 😛
You guys are thinking about this way too hard.
Women are not like coding, or math. That’s why nerds fail so often.
Stop thinking and let your dick decide, it’s instinctual like their tests.
My routine is to push them toward leaving since fuck wasting time on nonsense.
If she’s alone with you, at a private residence, not work related……wake the fuck up.
So i go for it. She can leave anytime.
Course my fail-safe is that I don’t attempt sex with women anymore unless I’m ok with getting her pregnant. Anything else is folly.
Half of the ROK articles criticize promiscuity and the other half encourage it.
ROK just can’t seem to decide where to go. It seems that way for the entire so called manosphere. If you want to “game” I’m the last guy that will tell you not to try. Just know you are perpetuating the decline, not enjoying it. The last decade where you could enjoy the decline was the 1970s. The world has passed guys like Troy Francis and Donovan Sharpe by. At least in North America where even a sign notarized statement from a woman you “gamed” successfully will not save you from prosecution and ruin if a woman suddenly decides to change her mind and cry out “Me Too!” Men need better advice than this in a social climate that gets more hostile with each passing day.
The caveman game of picking her up and carrying her to the bedroom, which I’ve done, which was in an earlier comment, would likely result in arrest nowadays.
Exactly. This shit isn’t worth it anymore. I don’t agree with vasectomies or ‘no-fap’ or any of that because I hope someday this nonsense will all be solved….but I do endorse MGTOW and the Mike Pence Rule, unless you are married because your wife must always be in fear of you leaving her to counter her hypergamy.
Sex isn’t that great. It’s ok mentally, but physically…it isn’t worth throwing your life away because of the power women have over you with your slightest misstep. I don’t what masochists enjoy this Current Year arrangement of women ruling over your very existence and legacy, but I’ve had enough of it.
And that better advice is …… move to a country with less gynocentric laws.
pretty terrible advice if you’re looking to settle down with someone. All statistics show that the longer a couple waits to have sex, the longer the relationship will last. Any woman with morals will not think less of a man just because he isn’t pursuing sex right away. She’ll think more of him.
There you go moralizing the human female. Sorry, Mr. Chivalrous, but women are amoral and unprincipled. Just because you aren’t having sex with her or anybody else does not mean she isn’t. Women WILL have sex with somebody if you don’t give it up to her when the opportunity presents itself.
Matt,
Banged my current wife within 2hrs of meeting her. Married 9 years now.
Sorry for my bad english, not my native language.
Well yeah, advices are are ok, but what is the point of all of this? We banged just another slut, and I personally can´t feel anything woow about it. She is easy, I´m God knows what number of partner to her, and everything goes to hell a little bit more. Many times I caught myself in thinking about my first girlfriend when I was 14. What love that was man. Both madly in love, with passion, and feelings and all those little things. I sneak out of my house at night, walk 2 kilometers in dark (damn village in the middle of nowhere) just to get to her house for a kiss. Funny thing, all those years later, the memory and scent is still here, but memory nonetheless. Maybe those rules for no sex before marriage are not so crazy at all. Maybe, for I don´t know anymore. I only feel that every next slut I bang, I fall a little bit more in pointlessness of present times. There is a good song in my country, something like “You love only once, and then heart burnout, you love only once, everything else is a illusion.”
Reason number 3?
She kinda, maybe, sorta has a boyfriend who’s pissed her off or is out of town or whatever, and she’s made the decision to meet up with that handsome bloke who stopped her on the street who took her phone out of her hand and who turned it off. Even a speeding hamster slows down, so you gotta strike while the iron is hot.
It’s not much different to when she turns you down for anything; “Hahaha, you’re such a nerd! Just so you know- I’m gonna kiss you again in like 5 minutes *wink*”
This NEEDED to be written
One should take into account one’s ultimate relationship goal before one actually does close the deal on 1st date. Girls who hit it that fast are far more likely than not to categorize you as “casual player guy”. If they even talk to you again you are FWB-zoned, equally as hard to escape as the trusty old friend zone. That’s fine if you aren’t LTR shopping, but if you are I’d suggest modifying it down a notch…start for the panties but then stop yourself just before she probably will, saying something like “damn I want to break all my rules and give you the business right now…”
If guys need a reminder to try and fuck the girls they asked out IDK what to think anymore. Hell, guy should rather know if a girl is down with him BEFORE he formally asks her out. No lunch, no dinners, no movies, no clubs, no friends…coffee and toast…..cause I really want to get to know ya.
Man…I was going to post the best quotes, but those truth bombs just kept coming like a freaking landslide.
ROK is back people!
Bad advice.
Look, the idea of taking it slowly has gone from gentlemanly behavior to one of self-preservation.
Do you really want to have sex with a woman you don’t even really know much about yet?
How do you know she won’t regret it and cry “rape?”
How do you know she isn’t some feminist who will make your life sheer misery? Once sex occurs, depending on the woman, you may find yourself paying for it long after even if pregnancy did not occur.
How do you know she isn’t a self-medicated “bi-polar” lunatic?
It takes TIME to know a person, and before going that far you’d best know exactly what you are dealing with. In today’s society women hold all the cards, not just the aces, and all it takes is one false rape accusation to ruin a man’s life!
You take it slowly, get to know her, I cannot stress that part enough. In today’s political climate do you really want to rush in? Answer: No.
So take it from me, someone who has seen some pretty bad changes in society over the course of decades: this article is BAD ADVICE.
Real talk, give fuck if she denies you and let that shit roll off your back like a mallard. Donovan’s advice on the drink point was solid, back in the day, this old 36 year old would use that every time. These women are in our cave, just give email rock to sit on when they feeling jumpy.
It used to be a breeze for me prior to entering this anti-white, anti-male parallel/tinder universe sometime in late 2012 to find a chick and even blast a huge load in the car or in the park on her on a first or second date.
I asked one girl out at the park after talking to her for about an hour. She looked at me like I was a space alien and bolted in her car faster then Flash. All I did was ask if she had any plans for the weekend. I must look like an entirely different person from the one in the mirror because it shouldn’t be this difficult.
To be blunt, you probably won’t hear from the girl again if you don’t do it on the first date or attempt to ask. In 2010 I went with 4 girls and did it on the first date…Two of those girls couldn’t stop texting me because they were thinking of my cock. I had to put them on call and text block because I became annoyed.
You will know if a girl wants to have sex with you or if she will cock block. The more drinks in her the better of course. If she says things like my roommate is out of town for the weekend, there is a quiet park a mile from here, or she puts her hands on your thigh, or if she is quiet and lets you take her wherever you wants, i get off at 7 and we can do whatever you want, those are the signs the night will probably be on your side.
If you’re interested in wife or relationship material, waiting several dates to have sex is normal…So don’t let me digress from a sex girl and wife material.
Writing this, makes me miss the good ol’ days from 1998-2011. May you rest in peace and COME BACK AGAIN!!!
I’ve noticed for many years that sex sluts gravitate towards men who have a broad or wide face like a Russell Crowe, Matt Damon, or Jude Law instead of a guy with a long, narrow or square face.
My guess is women find the wide or broad faces more attractive or more masculine. Because of obesity, I think most men these days have a wide or broad face…But hell, there’s guys like me with a long face (its not wide or narrow) that hit the gym hard that want what the broad faced guys have been getting all their lives. Easy access to more pink and stink!
Its now May 13th and the last post on this article was dated May 10th…Shutting down the comments section after May 10th is too premature since this article is still on the main page of this website. So, why so soon?
this article, as many other here, let me think about the reasons why men still talks about GAME in a world where 99% of women are feminist sluts, do yourself a favor and rent an escort, save your time, better experience, no hassles, 100% sex garanteed, lot of free times to do whatever you want, no rape accusationseven after months, no pregnancies i can list more reasons buti guess you already got the picture, otherwise please, auseme game man, how brave you are trying fucking a beauty becauseyou are the alpha loser… lol
Sorry folks, but this is VERY bad advice.
The idea behind dating and gradually stepping things up from there was to find out if there was compatibility. Before things went too far- and pregnancy can have serious consequences for the woman and TERRIBLE consequences for the man- you would, by taking it slowly, find out if going any further was in fact a good idea.
Chris Rock talking about the “Runaway Bride:” that man was the luckiest man in the world. The woman revealed her craziness BEFORE they were married!
Take it from me, Millenials: you want to know everything possible about the woman BEFORE things go anywhere near sleeping with her.
For example, do you really want to sleep with her on the first date and afterwards, when the police come for you, find out that she’s a feminist inclined to listen to aging feminist harpies encouraging her to report a consensual night as rape?
Do you really want to go that far only to discover that she’s a prescription-medicated lunatic afterwards?
In today’s society, where the government, agencies, judicial system, and media all side with women, do you really want to sleep with her on the first date which, by definition, means you know little about her so you leave yourself incredibly vulnerable?
This advice is as bad as saying you shouldn’t check up on her social media (was that called “pre-stalking?”) when in fact that is a perfect way to find out about her politics and where she stands on feminist issues.
Again, trust me- unless you know time travel once you go that far and discover you made a serious mistake there is no way to undo it. Men today must be much more careful than they once were.
Sounds like a good way to quickly get an STD for the rest of your life.
Bad advice.
Look, the idea of taking it slowly has gone from gentlemanly behavior to one of self-preservation.
Do you really want to have sex with a woman you don’t even really know much about yet?
How do you know she won’t regret it and cry “rape?”
How do you know she isn’t some feminist who will make your life sheer misery? Once sex occurs, depending on the woman, you may find yourself paying for it long after even if pregnancy did not occur.
How do you know she isn’t a self-medicated “bi-polar” lunatic?
It takes TIME to know a person, and before going that far you’d best know exactly what you are dealing with. In today’s society women hold all the cards, not just the aces, and all it takes is one false rape accusation to ruin a man’s life!
You take it slowly, get to know her, I cannot stress that part enough. In today’s political climate do you really want to rush in? Answer: No.
So take it from me, someone who has seen some pretty bad changes in society over the course of decades: this article is BAD ADVICE.
That’s right bro, keep promoting that degeneracy!