How To Defeat Feminism (ROK Mailbag)

Young love

Will writes:

Hello
I’m 18 from Norway and an active reader of ROK. There is a chick I’ve been on one date with. I was going to ask her out for a second but she turned it down because she was going at a dinner party that evening. Anyways I am home alone this coming week and would like for her to come to my place for a movie and eventually bang her. One thing she is 16 and has to be home at 12 o´clock. I feel like I’ve lost a little ground by asking her out and being turned down because she simply couldn’t. So the question “how to ask a girl to hang in a way that she can’t say no, a bullet proof way to ask her to hangout, without being rejected”?
I would normally resolve these sort of minor challenges myself, but I am very curious of your opinion on this particular subject.

Extra info:

I’ve been playing aloof game for the most Maintaining pride during this one particular chase and not investing money or too much time in her. I kissed her after the first date. Yeah and most communication happens via message.

It seems from your description that she did not counter your offer with another date or time that she could meet up. Often times, this is a sign of disinterest and you are going to have an uphill battle. If she did want to see you again, she would have suggested another date when she was free. However this does not mean you should dismiss her, because you never know with women.

I would wait a minimum of a week to ask her out again. It may be the case a week has already passed since your second date invite. Your question of how to ask a girl out without her saying no is not a viable question because there is no such thing as a rejection-proof way to ask someone out. Sometimes when asking a girl out, I will not ask. I will mention what I’m doing and let them know they are welcome to join.

In your case, you can text her and say something along the lines of “Have some wine here and going to watch a movie, let me know if you want to join.” Obviously tailored to both your style, situation (maybe she doesn’t drink and smokes weed instead) and the way you have been communicating so far. If she wants to come, she will say ok. If she gives you an excuse and does NOT provide an alternate date, you can let it go. If she does give you an alternate date, then you can go from there.

Don’t overthink it. If she doesn’t work out just remember there is an endless supply of girls out there. And make sure to check your age of consent laws.

– Law Dogger

The college dilemma

ThePrince writes:

ROK, I’m a senior in high school. I have the grades and test scores to potentially go to a few Universities with an excellent reputation, but I’m also applying to several State schools with good financial aid. My parents think the reputation of those private schools is worth the 20k+ difference in cost a year, but I’m not convinced that the more expensive choices are worth it in obtaining a STEM degree. I desperately need a masculine perspective on University. Does ROK think I should sacrifice reputation for cheap cost? I know that I need a STEM degree to make college worth it, but what kind of STEM degree do I need to become location-independent? Engineering? Computer Science?

Any advice you can offer about University, college life, or applying to schools would be greatly appreciated. I really want to succeed, but I don’t know how, or who to ask for advice. Thank you in advance!

Are your parents footing the full bill? If so, go to the best school possible. If they are not paying your way, disregard their opinions about reputations vs. value. Their experience with colleges comes from an era where basically any degree was enough to get a decent-paying job, so they’re assuming you’ll be able to pay off the increased debt you take on for slightly higher prestige. This is where most people get in trouble.

One thing I can tell you unequivocally is that if you have the grades and test scores to go to a truly elite university, you should do it. We’re not talking a “nice liberal arts college”—Your diploma must have the name of Ivy League school, MIT, Stanford, or one of a select few others to get the benefits of shelling out the kind of money colleges are charging these days. Keep in mind that a STEM degree is not necessary for future success if you go to a top-tier school, since there are a lot of English or political science majors who go into finance, consulting, banking, etc. You’ll meet more future elites in political science classes than in engineering classes at these schools.

If you’re not able to go to a truly elite school, you should think about whether your chosen career path requires college at all. The author of 30 Days To X dropped out of college to pursue self-employment and location independence, and has a bunch of great advice about the pros and cons of that path. Captain Capitalism also has tons of practical advice for college-age men. If you’re set on college despite not getting into a difference-making school, go to the best one possible that gives you enough financial aid so you will not have any debt when you graduate, and probably concentrate on a STEM degree.

For the second part of your question, the thing you need to become location independent is not a degree, but skills. A computer science degree, for example, will do nothing for you if you cannot write code or network computers. Very little of modern academia focuses on teaching you skills that someone will actually pay for. This is probably by design. You need to research potential career paths, find the skills behind them, and start learning them on your own regardless of what you decide about formal schooling.

– Black Knight

On becoming a better writer

Skoll writes:

I’m building my own Manosphere website and would like to know how I can develop and improve my writing skills. I’m looking for a more specific advice other than the usual “read more” or “write more”.

I would also like to know more about style and the subject of catering to the audience and writing in a way that captivates the reader.

And lastly, how does the writer know what the reader wants? How do you balance between giving into the demand and keeping a solid foundation for yourself?

Skoll—You asked for some techniques on how to be a better writer. You asked not to hear the advice of “read more” and “write more.” Unfortunately, those two pieces of advice are the only pieces of advice that actually work. Everything else is just window-dressing. OK, well, maybe I would add one other tidbit: “Live more, fuck more, and get beaten up by life more.”  You’re asking, in effect, how to become a better runner without practicing running.

Can’t be done, there, chief-a-roni. Cannot.

Writing is hard work. It takes dedication, life experiences, a foundation of exposure to good writing, and a focused intensity. If you’re not prepared for that, don’t start a blog.

As for writing to “please your audience”…none of us write for that reason. Writers write to exorcise their demons, to satiate their passions, to get revenge on their ex-wives, to try to bang the girl next door, to repress their violence, to psych themselves up, to flaunt their scrotums: it’s done for all these reasons. And more.

Your audience doesn’t know what it wants until you put it in front of them. And you’d goddamn well better believe in what you’re writing.

If it doesn’t come from the heart, if it doesn’t come from that dark place inside, it’s going to be shit.

Write about that you know. Don’t write about things you don’t know. People can spot a phony a mile away. You’re better off writing about marine life in the Great Barrier Reef (if that’s your passion) than regurgitating some insipid bullshit just for page hits.

Follow your passion, hoss. And I’ll follow you.

– Quintus Curtius

Fighting the good fight

A reader writes:

How would you beat feminism?

1. Mockery. Make the person you want to persuade laugh. They’ll lower their emotional guard to where they give you a chance at sharing your facts. Lindy West is a good example of this. We mocked her so hard for her outrageous body size that she is forever linked to being a whale instead of whatever talking points she was trying to disseminate.

2. Point out hypocrisy. People will tune out any ideology that is not consistent with their platform. If you’re able to present incidents of feminist hypocrisy to the masses, they will eventually stop listening to their complaints. Gamer gate, which is a result from corruption and double standards in the gaming journalist industry, has awakened many guys to the damage that feminists and SJWs cause. It was too glaring to ignore.

3. Articles and video based on fact. While facts are hard to swallow for the hardcore feminist adherents, they represent a good way to draw in those who are already sympathetic to our cause. More work can be done in finding those men who are already on our side but don’t yet know we exist. Such a collected mass can continue refining the message and eventually offer pushback on the nonsense that the other side tries to disseminate.

You can find more ideas here.

– Roosh

Baby rabies

Cristian writes:

I’m 20 years old and have had the same girlfriend for almost a year(I should have cut it off a long time ago, I know). She is 27 years old and is barely entering her university major. We’ve been having mostly raw dog sex for this past year, and by some miracle, or as I call it, me pulling out and her not liking it, no pregnancy has occurerd, though we have had a few scares. She always hates it when I try to use condoms and even refuses to do so on her fertile days. I’m getting pretty sick of this. She insists she can’t have kids, despite the fact she’s always crying that she wants kids in the future. I’m too young to be stuck with some old bat and a rugrat from someone I didn’t want as a wife or a mother. What is your opinion on this?

You answered your own question. Run away. Run quickly.

That’s all for this week. There were some great questions asked in the comments thread of the announcement post—if you would like those questions answered be sure to send them via email or the anonymous form.

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36 thoughts on “How To Defeat Feminism (ROK Mailbag)”

  1. Kudos to the ROK team, this mailbag idea was awesome.
    Just to clarify, I wasn’t looking for some shortcut towards becoming a good writer by circumventing reading and writing. I already read and write for most of my free time, I was just wondering if there were other things that I could add on top of it. Otherwise, it was great to get some tips from Quintus himself. Thank you.

    1. A few more random thoughts:
      1. Keep the books you’re currently reading by your bed-table. Also keep a pencil within reach. Read in bed when you’re relaxed–right when you wake up on a weekend is good. Take note (with your pencil) of words, ideas, or concepts that get your attention. Make notes in the margins. Use these ideas in your writing.
      2. Buy a few of those old “composition books” at Walmart for $1.50 each. Write in there words you learned from your reading and looked up in the dictionary. I love these composition books for their convenience and durability.
      3. Write about things you’re passionate about or know about first-hand. Don’t try to be someone you’re not.
      4. Write in different places. I mean: don’t always write from the same desk. Write in libraries, public places, coffee shops, or wherever. Changes of environment get your juices flowing.
      5. Be daring. Be bold. Put your balls out there, and damn the torpedoes.
      6. Experiment with different forms of writing: prose, poetry, prose poems, essays, stories, etc. The change will do you good.

      1. Damn, these are some great pointers!
        In particular, I love your emphasis on “not being someone you’re not.” That really is crucial, and you’re right, we can tell when it’s a lie. Hence any emphasis here that may be given to gaining “real life experiences, hardships, successes,” etc.
        The more you’ve felt, and the more that you’ve mourned, and loved, and hated, and regretted, and seen; then the more that you will be able to tap into your meaningful resources (rather than something that you’ve seen on TV or in the movies for instance.)
        As QC says, always read with a pen in your hand. Not only does the fact that you make a note in the margin serve as some sort of mental note for future reference, but it will also be physically marked for you whenever you decide to return to the passage yet can’t quite remember where it is in the book. I actually think of note taking as a substitute for photographic memory since note taking seems to imprint something in the mind, and whenever you want to revisit that something, then you can scan the book for your notes and always seem to have a good idea of where the passage is and can subsequently find it due to the marker.
        If you’re taking intense notes, like every other page or pages of citations at a time, then underline diligently and make your comments in the margins, then note the pages on the cover page of your book for future reference (note the pages by subject). This “index” can practically serve as an outline for future papers, or at least provide guidance on meaningful references.

    2. This is all great advice, but Ill share with you what took my writing to the next level:
      First thing’s first: make sure you command of grammar is high. For this I recommend reading Samuel Kirkham’s “English Grammar.” When Abraham Lincoln was learning how to write, he was using this book.
      Once you have a great command of the fundamentals, you should memorize the rhetorical figures in Book 4 of Cicero’s “Rhetorica Ad Hereniumm.” Only memorize a figure a day, don’t get too ahead of yourself, eventually you’ll be able to remember them years later.
      After you do this, you should have a great eye for language on a micro-level. When you read, you will notice that you will be identifying these figures, the ways in which authors turn a phrase.
      Then I would recommend reading Sister Miriam Joseph’s “Shakespeare’s use of the Arts of Language.” It’s going to get really good after this. What that book will do for you is help you understand what makes Shakespeare so great, especially his high command of grammar, logic, and rhetoric. This is important because you will now be able to fully appreciate Shakespeare and steal some of his techniques. The book also has a great section on the “Topics.” She simplifies Aristotle’s way of creating an infinite amount of arguments using the topics of invention. In chapter VII there 9 chapters to memorize. Memorize a chapter a day, and you will forever remember how to create infinite ideas in 9 days–highly fucking useful.
      After you do all of this, I highly recommend reading Elizabethan Literature, which was arguably the best time for English language because of it’s rhetorical complexity, as opposed to the pervasive minimalism of today. Do that, with an eye towards the figures and topics of invention. You can also start copying the writing of your favorite author, preferably one that is good, and just copy their sentences. This is what the Greeks, Romans, and Elizabethans did when they were learning how to write, it was called imitatio. Fitzgerald is a great modern author to imitate.
      And finally, if you want to take it to the next level, the highest level, which I have not reached but am planning to, read the “Collected Works of Erasmus.” In it, there is a book called “De Copia.” This is the same textbook that Shakespeare used when he began to learn how to write in grammar school. It shows you a technique to turn a phrase an infinite amount of times.
      Here is an example of Erasmus himself:
      http://burton.byu.edu/Composition/CopiaGuide.pdf
      Knowledge is power, baby! Happy Writing!

  2. With regard to ThePrince’s question about schools, I suggest checking out Gladwell’s latest book “David & Goliath”. I have uploaded part 4 for you to listen to. He discusses STEM degrees in Ivy League schools vs. “mediocre” schools. In short, they found that if you went to the school without the prestige, you’re more likely to succeed in your degree vs the competition likely in an Ivy League school. Here’s the link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzQn496uFGx4NVR3Z1BnSmpUUzQ/edit?usp=sharing
    Good luck.

  3. Skol,
    First, keep a copy of Strunk and White’s on your toilet and learn that sucker inside and out. Learn the rules, then start breaking them. Second, writing is a process. Embrace the process. Don’t always expect great things when you sit down to start typing. Sometimes a piece only needs three edits, sometimes it takes twelve. Personally, I like to pound out an idea in a few hours and then walk away to leave it to stew in the brain for a few days or weeks. Third, unlike this response, learn to be succinct.
    -Gundog

      1. Gundong gave some great advice. I’d also recommend Orwell’s, “Politics and the English Language,” that is, if you haven’t read it yet. The conclusion of his essay is as follows:
        “But one can often be in doubt about the effect of a word or a phrase, and one needs rules that one can rely on when instinct fails. I think the following rules will cover most cases:
        (i) Never use a metaphor, simile, or other figure of speech which you are used to seeing in print.
        (ii) Never use a long word where a short one will do.
        (iii) If it is possible to cut a word out, always cut it out.
        (iv) Never use the passive where you can use the active.
        (v) Never use a foreign phrase, a scientific word, or a jargon word if you can think of an everyday English equivalent.
        (vi) Break any of these rules sooner than say anything outright barbarous.
        “These rules sound elementary, and so they are, but they demand a deep change of attitude in anyone who has grown used to writing in the style now fashionable. One could keep all of them and still write bad English, but one could not write the kind of stuff that I quoted in those five specimens at the beginning of this article.
        “I have not here been considering the literary use of language, but merely language as an instrument for expressing and not for concealing or preventing thought. Stuart Chase and others have come near to claiming that all abstract words are meaningless, and have used this as a pretext for advocating a kind of political
        quietism. Since you don’t know what Fascism is, how can you struggle against Fascism? One need not swallow such absurdities as this, but one ought to recognize that the present political chaos is connected with the decay of language, and that one can probably bring about some improvement by starting at the verbal end. If you simplify your English, you are freed from the worst follies of orthodoxy…”
        Here is the complete text, which I highly recommend if you are unfamiliar with George Orwell’s nonfiction writing: https://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/orwell46.htm
        For me, brevity, originality, and avoidance of barbarisms were the most important points I derived from this essay. Also, it convinced me to give Orwell a shot as a fiction writer, and it has since given birth to a blossoming interest in fiction novels in general (Orwell initially proved to me that fiction was worthwhile, and I have since discovered a number of fiction writers/books that deserve reading).
        The only thing I might add: try to avoid “bullets.” They’re not evil or necessarily bad, but they are a rather inharmonious concession to the desire for brevity. I guess it’s better than saying “first.. second… third… finally..,” but as far as narrative goes, they’re ill advised. That’s my personal two-cents. Of course, use bullet points as needed and feel free to break all these rules for your own purposes (or in order to avoid barbarisms).

    1. My writing method: Write the first draft. Leave it for 2 weeks. Come back and realize how awful it was. Second rewrite. Leave for another few days. Hack off half of the unnecessary material. Send it out to a bunch of friends to look at. Incorporate their suggestions.
      There are probably writing geniuses out there who can nail it on the first take, but not me. I like to polish my shit.

      1. First time perfect writing is a myth I think, something given to us by the Romantics and their blather about stream of consciousness writing. Mark my word, James Joyce probably did fifty edits of every single book he ever penned, in order to make it seem like he didn’t.

  4. Here’s to Baby Rabies. Run. Run. Run. My first child came from a girlfriend who SWORE that she could not get pregnant. NEVER believe a woman about her fertility!!!

    1. Once I caught a woman lying on her back pulling her knees to her chest after we had sex without a condom. This woman was intent on never having kids, and “was” on the pill.
      My lizard brain said “RUUUUUUUUUUUN”,
      One of the good decisions of the last decade.
      I estimate that at least one in three pregnancies in my social circle and extended family (pregnanices dating back to 1970s.. kids born premature, 6 months into the wedding, all the time) are “Ooooops. Now marry me”

    2. Children must always be born on the man’s terms, not the woman’s.
      Men need to become the gatekeepers of fertility. I will only impregnate you under these conditions. Those conditions must call for a level of behavior that would eliminate 80% of the women in Western nations.

  5. Well. For years I was a pro-feminist leftist here in Brazil and I could say that if some guy want to defeat feminists the start could be:
    1.improve yourself and be openly a sexist guy (of course, feminists like most of women don’t really like beta/feminist guys)
    2.avoid arguing to feminists.
    3.if you really need to argue to feminists don’t try to use only logical arguments. Try some relativism and emotional arguments.
    4.don’t be feminist but be an activist interested in some kind of “ideology” related to feminism (like new age, or vegetarianism, or environmentalism, or animal rights, or “fat girls’ rights”, or something like that), remember that feminists are unloved creatures and they hate you, to really defeat them you need to make them fall in love for you.
    Then you need to change the anti-male media, culture and laws, of course, but those 4 points are the basic points.
    At least it works for me.

    1. Talking with feminists goes a lot smoother once you realize all their ‘challenges’ are just shit tests. You should never respond to their arguments directly. Just don’t let them emotionally influence you and you’re already on top. If they say you have a tiny penis, say, “Yeah, I also have mommy issues and I’m a virgin.”

      1. My reply to the tiny penis jibe is along the lines of “The fact that the size of my penis is important enough to you to be the topic of discussion tells me you’ve enjoyed your fair share.”
        Alternatively if they’re Christian one could modify the last phrase of the response to be “…leads me to conclude that you must be a slut for Jesus.”

    2. #3 ”don’t argue with logic”.
      Lessons one must learn on how to whip feminism start ‘small’ or at the elementary level. That is, once you master small scale, then you easily graduate to larger systems.
      ONCE YOU KNOW SMALL – YOU KNOW ‘EM ALL.
      You learn with one cantacerous woman after another NOT to argue logic with her. Just be fluent with good creative lies and drinkable nonsense to keep her wheels aft and her fulcrum within reach thereby keeping her functional as a pump station. Control her improperly, though and she becomes lethal.
      On to the larger scale – defeating PANDEMIC feminism is logistically the same as conquering an individual female – it’s just larger scale. We sit around thinking up new and better ways to hammer the ”great celestial bitch force”, the cannibalistic ‘goddess force’ which makes our women crazy. But at the same time it is the force that creates our heterogenity, the very differential potential that drives our species. The forces must be kept in balance.
      A tiny fine tuned engine runs forever when balanced and its symphony of magnetic, electrical and inertial forces are tuned and balanced. Oh and the lubricant whew, NEVER FORGET THE LUBE. It is the lifeblood to a system in itself.
      Men and women both know their roles instinctively. The broken tamed woman serves her master but still this is just an act she puts on to please him. When she is in near proximity to a strong alpha feminist bitch field force, just see how quick she TURNS ON HER MASTER. She will snarl at you like she doesn’t know you. She becomes a wild beast.
      We men still have the wheel to the greater ship. We steer clear of bitch storm fields as we detect them. It is easier to herd our women in the calm than to individually pry them loose when they become trapped around the bitch axis.

  6. Stephen King’s memoir “On Writing” is a great instructional tool for aspiring writers (you can skip the first half if you don’t want to read his life story.) He repeats the two great commandments: read a lot and write a lot. Read good books, obviously, but even bad books are instructional. Be specific in describing why it sucked and then don’t do those things.
    Writing is a skill like any other in that the more you do it, the better at it you’ll be. Write stories or articles or essays or whatever it is you want to do and submit them for publication. Keep doing that until you succeed.

    1. I’m sure everyone can get better at it and even become decent writers, but not everyone can be great, as in Stephen King great.

  7. Elmer on Writing 101 :
    Visualize the complete essay. It is forceful, balanced, irresistible; a thing of beauty. It will make women swoon and men weep. “10s” will throw their panties at you. Venture capitalists will beg you to take their money.
    Summarize your points in the intro paragraph.
    Write a paragraph for each point.
    Have good transitions between paragraphs; as you finish one set up the transition to the next paragraph.
    Summarize points with a fresh twist in final paragraph and tie it all together with some devastating wit.
    Pass the bottle.

  8. (1) Get her loaded on red wine or amazing smoke and then raw dog her in all holes.
    (2) You might get a cool University in Northerrn or Western Europe plus loads of spending cash for the cost of studying on a rape-tourettes IVY League place.
    (3) Read more and write more.
    (4) With a phone book- it leaves no marks.
    (5) You have to ask? Run like a liberal arts student from a real job.

  9. This new series is off to a great start.
    ‘Question and answer’ is always a welcomed addition to any decent presentation. In this case, it seems to me that a Q&A series has the potential to really crystallize and hone in on the things that motivate contributors to contribute and readers to read.
    Thanks to the authors for taking the time to answer these questions. I look forward to reading more.

  10. ThePrince, (And maybe Black Night),
    Great advice about the Elite schools vs, the rest. (Although, non-STEM elites still can struggle if they were not smart enough to transition to business/finance fields).
    I find the combination of STEM+location independence funny. In my experience it is very tough to be an engineer working completely from home. Most companies need you close by often for good reasons: with other team members, contact with manufacturers, etc. The one exception possibly being Computer Science as there is a lot of freelance type work. Or alternatively, “hot” fields like network security where you are so in demand you can find a company willing to hire you in any city you wish.
    With Computer Science, the key is not so much the school name as it is the work experience. Pick a good school, but still get that internship ASAP. You need that coding experience to get your foot through the door.
    With other STEM fields, school name matters if it is an elite school, but you should still graduate with significant work experience to be truly competitive.

  11. Young Love:
    Black Knight nailed it. She’s used to living with mom and dad an you are the cool guy with the chill pad and wine/weed…at least for a week. If she doesn’t bite (and she should) then try “Neil Armstrong” game, where you give her so much fucking space she feels like Neil Armstrong.
    College Dilemma:
    One thing to consider (and depends on your field) is the people you will meet where you’re going. If your choice is b/w MIT and State School in computer science: MIT. If your choice is MIT and State School for Poli Sci, drop the fuck out of school and save your money. An Ivy/High End school is worth it if you are serious and don’t get some shit stain degree like poli sci or wimmyn’s studies. As a red pill man, you will make the Hi-IQ pussy tingle b/c you will be a Wolf among sheep. The problem with Hi-IQ pussy is that it likes to talk….a lot. And it’s very self involved. At that point you might consider an Asian girlfriend, b/c of that thing that Asian girls can do with their mouths which is shut it and keep it closed.
    Better Writer.
    Write for an hour a day, EVERY DAY. About anything. Poetry, fiction, what happened yesterday, anything. Just WRITE. There is no way around it. Get used to using language. And read poetry. Auden, Kipling, Carruth, Frost. All of them. Feel how they use language. Writing isn’t magic. It’s like lifting. If you work out three hours a day you WILL get stronger.
    Fighting Feminism.
    Rock out with your cock out. You have LOGIC on your side which, as we know, is a Coercive Tool of the Oppressive Patriarchy (the patriarchy which is responsible for Everything Good in history). When some some swipl bitch whines about how tough she has it, ask her if she’d rather be working in a mine or in construction, etc. Point out that she woke up this morning in a building built by MEN, drove to work in a car built by MEN, on road put there by MEN, walked into an office building built by MEN, and gets her paycheck from a company founded and run by MEN. Turn on your heel and walk away.
    Never apologize, never explain.
    When you are in your 40s, find a girl half your age who is man-friendly (i.e. thinks feminism is for old ladies who love cats) and preg her up several times, and raise your sons and daughters to be red pill. We will out-breed the cat ladies.
    Baby Rabies.
    Run. Run like a motherfucker. Get back to your apartment, grab whatever you can grab in 15 minutes, move 7 states away and change your fucking name. Your 20 and she’s 27 going on Hitting the Fucking Wall. You should be banging your younger sister’s 18 y.o. friends.
    End Transmission.
    Mistral

  12. “She insists she can’t have kids, despite the fact she’s always crying that she wants kids in the future.”
    Run, Forrest. Ruuuuuun!

  13. How to defeat feminism: treat them the same way you treat other social justice activists, like little children.

  14. Jesus christ do NOT take computer science, it’s not the 1990s
    And the best way to beat feminism is to tell them equality isn’t real and empathy isn’t all that important.

  15. “Very little of modern academia focuses on teaching you skills that someone will actually pay for.”
    THANK YOU. That statement sums up what has been wrong with college for the past two decades.
    Before the nineties, higher education was a place where the more academically inclined could further develop their skills in specialized white collar professions (education, law, journalism, health care and PR, etc.). College wasn’t for everybody. It was a mental grind (harder courses and a bigger workload compared to the present) and you sacrificed four years worth of wages while your fiends had their life set by the time your got out.
    But the payoff came from reaching a higher strata and wages in your professional career advancement. For example rather than work as a bank teller for twenty years, the bank would start you in a management position and you would end up a higher paid junior executive or higher. This is how things were defined in your parents time.
    Several things happened in the preceding years. The university of phoenix went public on wall street in 1994, as a for profit college. Everyone else followed suit by raising costs related to going to school. Textbooks, room and board, and your meal plan soared in price.
    At the same time a lot of schools didn’t add professors to maintain low class sizes or meet the increasing demand. College subsequently became less and less rigorous. That 20 page term paper

  16. I’d like to see this become a monthly article. I always find it fascinating to read the feedback this site gets, good and bad.

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