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How To Get Laid On Plenty Of Fish

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Plenty of Fish is the most popular dating site in the world. It is free, it is easy to use, and it is filled with girls who lack the funds, the seriousness, or the intelligence to realize that every other dating site this side of Adult Friend Finder offers them better prospects for a guy who wants a long-term relationship.

In other words, it’s perfect. The girls are pre-selected for some combination of stupidity, desperation and sluttiness. Not a great place to find a wife, but a prime hunting ground for the man looking to play some catch and release.

This guide will cover every step necessary to get you on a date with a girl. Once you’ve gotten a girl to meet you, run the Thumotic First Date Bang, or cook up the Thumotic Second Date Bang recipe. They work 100% of the time, most of the time.

But first you need to get those dates. Here are the five keys to succeeding at locking down girls on Plenty Of Fish:

1. Lie about your looks

75% of a man’s attractiveness is completely within his control. Lifting, dressing well, and taking care of yourself will make you appear to be more genetically ‘fit’ than you actually are. Do it.

Now get some proper photographs taken. You know your one friend with a thousand dollar camera and a Pinterest account? Take a break from calling him gay and get him to take some quality pictures that highlight your best features.

If you aren’t hideously deformed, you can throw up pictures that will be in the top 10% of the male population. Start your profile with a nice slideshow, and you’re playing the online dating game on easy mode.

2. Lie about your height

Lying in the course of a seduction is always a fun idea. You can lie about your profession, your relationship history, what you’re looking for. You can lie about where you’ve traveled. You can lie about whether or not you have AIDS. Get creative, readers!

The most important lie you can tell on Plenty Of Fish is your height, because it’s a sortable search category. Unless you are between 6’2 and 6’5, you must lie about your height. Here is my suggested concordance between actual height and POF stated height:

6’7 -> 6’4

6’3 -> 6’3

6’0 -> 6’3

5’9 -> 6’1

5’6 -> 5’10

5’3 -> 5’7

And feel free to go ahead and experiment with even more extreme lies and report back with your results. My buddy who is 5’8 lists himself as 5’11 and has not been called out once. This works because:

1) Girls can’t recognize height, especially short girls.

2) A woman forgives you all, in her loins’ tingly thrall.

3) The worst case scenario is that a girl walks out on you when she realizes you lied, in which case, you’re still not having any less sex with her than you would have otherwise.

If this sort of blatant deception makes you feel guilty, you’re reading the wrong blog. I refuse to be morally high-roaded about this in an online dating culture where women clearly believe that:

Thin = usually thin, sometimes respectably average.

Athletic = usually hot, but too often the ‘athlete’ in question would be better suited to a role as a pulling guard for the Broncos.

Average = Fat. Always, always, always fat.

A few extra pounds = Cannot get out of bed without a pulley. Cannot tie own shoes. Cannot wipe ass without a toilet brush.

Curvy = Gravitational singularity

Remember, men, there is no Geneva convention in online dating. This is war. There are no rules.

So lie about your height. And of course, list your body type as athletic. You should be athletic anyways, because you eat right and lift, but do it no matter what you look like. If the women of POF have taught us anything, it’s that the body type category is meant to be aspirational rather than descriptive.

3. Lie about your profession

This one is actually counter-intuitive. I have a fairly high-status job title and position, but my success increased significantly when I replaced it with a simple It’s complicated. Friends of mine with various other solid professions have reported the same experience.

The ideal POF profession is to throw out some vague, ambiguous, undefined, semi-playful bullshit, but combine it with other obvious markers of status. So, describe your job like you don’t have one, but list your education as PhD/professional designation and look wealthy and well-traveled in your photos.

An acquaintance I know spent a month failing brutally at online dating. He’s an engineer, and foolish blue pill chump that he is, thinks that women would rather fuck a guy who designs supersonic aircraft than a welfare bum or a serial killer. I suggested he change his title to “it’s complicated” and his response rate tripled.

Friends, very few men have gone home alone to jerk off because they underestimated the character of the modern western woman.

There are certainly some professions that might be a net positive, i.e. doctor or lawyer. Well-defined is key here, though. Chicks see ‘finance’ and think bank teller. Tell them you work in IT and they’ll picture you doing tech support at a nursing home.

So remember: vague bullshit, coupled with the unspoken suggestion that you are a man of means. The persona you are shooting for is highly-educated drug dealer and professional blogger with friends in high places.

4. Lie about travel

Have you traveled a lot? According to your dating profile, you better be motherfucking Magellan. Post a few solid travel photos. If you don’t have them, bust out your Photoshop skills. How many 22-year-old girls on Plenty of Fish do you think can recognize a misplaced shadow?

You think I’m joking. I’m dead serious. As it happens, I’ve been to a few places. But in my younger, less well-traveled days, I often found myself losing attraction with a certain type of girl, once I revealed that I’d never been outside North America. My solution was  to “borrow” the travel anecdotes and experiences my good friends had told me about. I suggest you do the same.

5. Lie about literally everything

Purge yourself of all virtue. Embrace the darkness. Spice up your life story. Drop details that imply your parents are rich. Hint at having published multiple books. Hint at owning lucrative businesses. Be reticent and embarrassed when she presses for details, and turn the conversation to more playful topics. This is an art.

6. Be the hooker with a heart of gold

Every man has his angle that he plays. This is mine. I am the man every girl is looking for: I am the Dashing Alpha Playboy finally on the verge of settling down. I don’t wear this on my sleeve—it’s very, very subtle. It’s an imperceptible boredom with the dating scene. A tiny hint of cynicism creeping into my heart. The faintest, most remote whispering of a hope that maybe, maybe, maybe, this girl sitting across from me is the one who will inspire me to give up the game.

This is such a common female fantasy, its a trope of romantic comedies. Hint at a sordid past and a dutiful future, even if neither is the case.

7. Invest nothing

Here is your opening email:

Hey, you seem interesting. [Bullshit question about something in her profile]

[Your Name]

If nothing comes to mind, send the above excerpt verbatim, [ ] and all.

If she responds with reasonable enthusiasm, give her a friendly response with some light qualification. If she responds positively to that, give her your number and meet up.

Do not stress over any one girl. Do not even bother to collect numbers. Let her make the effort, and cut her off if she’s lazy. There are literally infinite girls on POF in any major city and new ones join every day. Pursue girls who dig your vibe, and do not waste time on girls who are on the fence.

8. Play the numbers game

The more lines you cast…

In the modern dating world, it is ridiculous to get attached to a girl until you’ve banged her at least ten times. Until then, you are a cold and mechanical hunter. Spam many messages, go on many dates, and you will be a man with a variety of options of gradually increasing quality.

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748 thoughts on “How To Get Laid On Plenty Of Fish”

  1. Here’s a list of tips compiled after years of in field studies and experiences from accomplished PUAs worldwide;
    1. women don`t care about looks
    2. magic tricks can cover up the stuff you lack as a whole person
    3. there`s an elite that fucks 90% of the women out there
    4. ioi`s mean sex
    5. phone numbers mean sex
    6. sex is magical and hard to explain
    7. you need to know a lot about the stuff other people don`t know about yet they figured it out somehow
    8. women rate and test men all day like it`s football to them
    9. what a dog knows by it`s instincts you need to figure out with formulas
    10. everybody has sex except you
    11. feminism is your enemy
    12. feminism is your ally
    13. women are deliberate and always plotting
    14. other people`s opinion on the internet is valid and a solid base for your reality
    15. the more attractive the woman the more bitchy she`ll be
    16. if common sense tells you not to do it, than it`s a limiting belief
    17. everybody is stuck in an eternal sexual puberty
    18. your happiness is determined by the number of your sexual partners
    19. the way you lose your virginity determines your life
    20. every girl is the same and likes the same type of guys
    21. you can learn a lot about attraction by watching certain movies
    22. masturbation destroys your mental health
    23. your general lifestyle and direction in life doesn`t matter to her, game compensates for all
    24. routines are like cheatcodes to sex
    25. if the theory is hard to explain the better the results will be in the end after applying it
    26. women only care about social status
    27. women only want to have sex with assholes
    28. reading and discussing seduction theories is actually doing something with your life

  2. “If the women of POF have taught us anything, it’s that the body type category is meant to be aspirational rather than descriptive.”
    Laughed at this for the longest time. Excellent article. Women speak and respond to the art of bullshit very well

    1. Thanks. I closed comments to avoid having to deal with moderation and trolls, but emails, tweets and comments here are appreciated.
      And yeah, I’m blown away by the creative interpretation of the athletic body type category.

      1. Hey Frost, it’s too bad your website closed, but is there a place your articles can be picked up?
        I liked your response in Dalrock’s article about “playing the woman in her 30’s with nice-guy game”.

        2. Frost,
          Is this the way you would want your mother or your sister to be treated? Go on, try to answer that question.

    2. Get this trough your thick skull guys, you will never beat the women on POF at their own game, they use you, you don’t use them, The only problem with all this is that once in a while a lady comes along and you do not recognize the difference and might let the best thing coming into your life pass you by.

      1. I am shocked in reading his link.
        I guess I am one of those ladies but have become enlightened, wiser, not bitter…hmmm…if only the world would be genuine in love and life.

        1. The very same “curious no more who writes”…
          “Well said Caz…I’m with you and shocked at this posting.
          I feel as a society we have let women down. Women let themselves down because all they want is true love and guys treat them as an object…in the end I think they will get what they deserve…rot in hell vermin.”
          Right… you are “enlightened”, “wiser” and “not bitter”.
          Your statement that society has let women down has not real foundation in the topic here. Society isn’t forcing these women to behave like princesses on Plenty-of-Trash. They ignore messages from men that aren’t top tier hunks to stroke their ego and lie to themselves that being a 5 can somehow attract a 10. Enlightened? Hardly.
          You ignore that attitude and pretend that these women are only after “true love”. What? Like true love cannot come from a man who isn’t an 8+? Wiser? Well, if this type of selective acknowledgement of things to draw conclusions is wiser, then just how far from unwise has one been in the past?
          Calling people “vermin” and hoping they suffer eternal damnation is very much a demonstration of “bitter”. So, “not bitter” is unlikely to be true.
          One’s actions contradicts ones precis of oneself. Is this not the definition of deluded.
          There is a lot of “genuine” men on Plenty-of-fish. It’s princesses and their defenders that think only those who are 8+ are acceptable.
          Please try again.

        2. Women are more pick and superficial than men. Especially for height. I doubt you would date 5’4 guy.

        3. but you guys aren’t refering to “princesses on POF” or just women on pof. You guys are referring to all women. That’s just scary man. Why do you all hate women sooooo much. I mean is this the way you think about your sister, your mother, your aunt?!

        4. What a refreshing change to read your post Sam. You are a lone wolf but stand by your convictions.

        5. What a laugh to see Sam and Sam pretending to be a guest supporting Stupid remarks from Sam.
          We are ALL referring to the “princesses of POF”. No one is referring to ALL women except the women that come here only to protest. Why do you hate guys that have figured out how self-serving and dishonest “princesses of POF” are? lol. We all know. It’s because YOU are one.
          Valid point about sisters, your mother, etc.? Valid point? lol. That’s about as valid as your fib that “guys here are talking about ALL women”. You’re just rewording it.
          Get a life, Sam. You have no point. You’re just trying to repeat the same old story in hopes that it will fool someone into thinking you’re on to something. You are not.

        6. Sam, read my long post above to Ria. You are correct, these creatures hate all women. What they fail to realize is that they could be having some fun and making friends and being decent human beings. They also fail to realize that women like men who like women. Such irony, wouldn’t you say? They want/need women SO badly that they twist themselves into pretzels and lie to get with a woman who they deem disposable. And what does that make THEM? 😉 You can’t deal with this lot though, they’re not terribly bright. If they were, they’d have figured out a less cynical way to live their lives and not be compounding misery.
          And you’ll notice that the women who they supposedly game and have sex with (a very specious claim, I’m sure) are apparently all fat and ugly by their own admission since there’s no other kind on POF??! Ha!

        7. Juliajayne1, you are so right. These men are so bitter and down on women, I believe they are just getting what they deserve. I know for a fact there are many decent men out there, whether they are online or out and about. No comparison to the idiots posting on here.

        8. Oh my, this lot is beyond bitter, they’ve gone to the dark side, ha! Actually most of them sound petty, nasty and vindictive. And they’re so ironic. Some dude down thread talks down women who get pregnant (apparently in a vacuum or by immaculate conception, right? lol), like they did this all by their lonesome. Derp.
          Some other of the eejits remark how ugly, stupid, fat, slutty, shallow and mendacious all these POF women are, without a whiff of irony when they’re advising other apparently fat, ugly, stupid, slutty, shallow and mendacious guys on how to put their height on the profile, as well as lie about income, profession, et al. Wow, it boggles the mind! It’d be funny except they seem to be playing out some form of revenge sex fantasy. To tell the truth, I doubt nary a one has had many more than a date or two and they’re just incensed because they’re all hornier than a two peckered billy goat! No doubt most of them look like billy goats! 😉 Poor widdle things. )Oh, now just talking about their tiny winkys). Wink, wink. ;-0
          But to your point, yes, there are many wonderful men out there and I’ve been privileged to know some. I’m glad the loser types here are in the minority. One day maybe they’ll grow up and start respecting themselves, and can then respect others. One can hope!

        9. Repeating the propaganda that critics of misguided feminism “hate ALL women” doesn’t make it any less of a lie. If, anything it is just further proof of the childish behaviour prevalent in those who support misguided feminism.
          You have contradicted your claim that these men “hate ALL women” by immediately stating that they want/need them (and by default, are not wanting them as a form of punishment to either party): There is no greater indicator of insincerity than that.
          If it wasn’t obvious before that you really have no case, but are only here to spew out hatred, it is now.
          If the men here are apparently so vacant, it says even less of those that can’t even present an argument, and instead resort to juvenile name-calling and insults.
          Your logic is specious and the absolute hostility in your posts betrays a lot of latent anger towards men.
          Full details:
          http://gaul7000.wordpress.com/2013/06/15/you-are-completely-wrong-jayne-part-2/

        10. Even the most casual observer can see which party is purely “petty, nasty and vindictive”. It is doubtful that you don’t see that.
          There are a lot more eligible men (as in relatively fit in mind, body, and attitude) on sites like Plenty of Fish than you assume. It is likely a more personal inability to attract them that has you believing they do not exist. Certainly, there are a lot more eligible than honestly attractive women there (not including the fraudulent ads of course).
          The deterioration into grade school taunting (Billy Goats? That’s a new one) is expected. It demonstrates your lack of real substance as well as puts your self-esteem in question. Please. Continue!
          When one resorts to name-calling and taunting when they can’t have their way, one hardly has licence to lecture others on self-respect, respect for others or maturity in general.
          Full details:
          http://gaul7000.wordpress.com/2013/06/15/you-are-completely-wrong-jayne-part-3/

        11. Read the article. Read the comment section. The fact that YOU have no case is manifestly clear. Sorry. ::shrugging::

        12. Dude, I never mentioned men in general on POF. There are lots of nice men there who, thankfully, aren’t representative of the men HERE, who clearly are disgusting. And trying to make this about me or moving goal posts won’t work with me. How about you and your brethren not taking things personally and then you won’t feel so put upon. You know you’re in the wrong, just admit it. Really, quit promulgating misery and seek to be the kind of person who would like to attract, as I said before. Btw, you’re welcome.

        13. 1. “Dude, I never mentioned men in general on POF.” —–You don’t HAVE to explicitly mention something in order for the audience to establish intent. You seem to think that it’s “all the man’s fault” if he is not getting responses. In fact, whether a man is “nice” or not is moot in the online dating world. Every man that enters POF faces the same challenge of women who believe they are far greater than they really are. POF is filled with princesses that think they are too good anything but the perfect man.
          2. “And trying to make this about me or moving goal posts won’t work with me.” —– Sorry, we have only involved your experience as you have introduced it yourself. Even so, considering the history of you taunting others on conjured personal challenges, you hardly have the latitude to think that involving the personal domain of your opposition is only your privilege. You haven’t even addressed the current challenges. No goal posts were moved.
          3. “How about you and your brethren not take things so personally and then you won’t feel so put upon.” —– I can’t speak for the “brotherhood”, but you needn’t worry, it’s more humour than harm. I must have a sadistic streak as it is like shooting fish in a barrel at times… but seriously, it’s all about seeing things objectively.
          4. “You know you’re in the wrong, just admit it.” —– ROFLMAO. Seriously? Not only is it highly unlikely that anyone in the readership will agree with this baseless assertion, it is doubtful that you believe this yourself. Sure, you are trying to save face, but seriously? You provide absolutely no defence of my rebuttals… and I am “in the wrong”?
          Full Details:
          http://gaul7000.wordpress.com/2013/06/17/you-are-completely-wrong-jayne-part-6/

        14. 1. “Read the article. Read the comment section. The fact that YOU have no case is manifestly clear.” —– You are flagrantly incorrect in this assessment as you are still relying on conveniently forgetting the context to why embellishment is an effective, and appropriate strategy for men.
          2. My reasoning is provided in detail and in absolute transparency. In striking contrast, you provide dubious conclusion without any support, and, when refuted, have consistently avoided any attempt at a remedy. In lieu of remediation, you have resorted to ad hominem attacks (usually in very juvenile forms). At the very best, you have attempted to deflect the dialogue. I don’t even have to provide a judgement, as I am confident that the audience at large have made a determination that parallels mine.
          Full Details:
          http://gaul7000.wordpress.com/2013/06/17/you-are-completely-wrong-jayne-part-7/

        16. Hi Julia
          I think these tactics developed because it is a lot more difficult for men to sexually attract women. Women are very selective and find very few men good enough for sex. Most men don’t have the good looks, height, physique and lifestyle that women require for casual sex.

        17. Women like men who sincerely like us. We can tell who those men are.
          Women have to go through a lot to attract men too. These guys are trying short cuts (cynical tactics) that just won’t work, all the while being kind of creepy and mean spirited in the bargain. They blame everyone but themselves. It’s not a recipe for happiness. Life is a good teacher, though. I’m sure most of them will eventually grow up and find someone who will love them. If not, they only have themselves to blame for not investing in their own attractiveness, physically, spiritually and mentally. It takes work! Their mere existence is not enough to make women want to have anything to do with them. ;-0) They seem kind of surprised by this simple fact!
          Be well, Tim. And good luck.

        18. Women like men who sincerely like us. We can tell who those men are.
          Women have to go through a lot to attract men too. These guys are trying short cuts (cynical tactics) that just won’t work, all the while being kind of creepy and mean spirited in the bargain. They blame everyone but themselves. It’s not a recipe for happiness. Life is a good teacher, though. I’m sure most of them will eventually grow up and find someone who will love them. If not, they only have themselves to blame for not investing in their own attractiveness, physically, spiritually and mentally. It takes work! Their mere existence is not enough to make women want to have anything to do with them. ;-0) They seem kind of surprised by this simple fact!
          Be well, Tim. And good luck.

        20. What about the real women the one that takes care of her man cooks clean laughs with him and is 100 percent loyal. Why do we get mind fucked. It is so hard to find true love and some men throw it away thinking the grass is greener on the other side

        21. Since you ask:
          It’s not about how she will treat him; it’s about how she determines whether or not he is worthy as well as the accuracy of her assessment of her self-worth.
          The relative inconvenience to “honestly looking and not-delusional” women by players is extremely minor in comparison to the bad experience most men have to endure (just to get nothing.)
          It’s not hard to find true love. It’s still about how delusional women think that a guy isn’t worthy of it or cannot possibly supply it if he isn’t the stereotypical trophy hunk.
          Details:
          http://gaul7000.wordpress.com/2013/08/10/youre-not-addressing-the-real-issue-bxlady/

        22. Don’t bother. This is a site for ugly, lonely sociopaths who blame women for not being attracted to them. They’ve been growing the hate for women since high school, when the girl rejected them for a prom date, and they blame everyone except themselves. No real man needs to resort to these laughable infomercial tactics. Let them have their fun.

        23. You’re welcome to an opinion (because that’s all it is.)
          It’s easy to see that Plenty of Fish is full of delusional women that think they are god’s gift to mankind (though, one would wonder why they have to resort to putting up an ad there since they should be able to attract all sorts of “real men” in the real world).
          You can lie to yourself all you want and believe that the guys on the site are all “ugly, lonely sociopaths”, but the prevalence of guys saying that they have far less success on that site than they do in real life is far in contrast to your wishful conclusions.
          It is disingenuous to make up stories like “they have been growing some hate for women since high school” as you have no evidence of this. It’s nothing more than the usual attempt to label any who point out how poisoned the pond is as some sort of misogynistic agenda (which it isn’t).
          Be as condescending as you want. You aren’t fooling anyone. The most laughable thing is that you continue to troll sites like this while pretending to “not care”.

        24. Im just saying that the pressure on men to be good looking, tall, have good physiques, have a good lifestyle etc , in order to obtain casual sex is just immense and much greater than on women.
          Women dont have to go through a lot to obtain casual sex (which this article is concerned about) It is a lot easier for women to get laid. There is plenty of evidence of this. Women can be be just average in every aspect and still attract plenty of men for casual sex quite effortlessly. Just observe the bars and online dating scene.
          But youre right. Men shouldn’t blame women for this. It is what it is. Life isnt fair and the sexual marketplace is unfair to men. Women are more selective and have higher standards and find very few men physically appealing. Men will just have to accept this difference in sexuality.

        1. Thank you Sam, I am very disappointed at the men posting all those negative comments. Not all of us women are horrible people. I do not mean to disrespect anyone by my comments, I just want some of you men to think about what you post on here. If you have been hurt by a woman, deal with that women but do not generalize and throw us all in the same bin.

      3. All of the useless noobs who post at these gaming sites are losers who can’t get a date. They hate women because they can’t GET a woman. They’re angry because women actually do have something they want, hell spend ALL of their waking hours dreaming about, which is quite the irony, lol. So they come to places like this and whine and caterwaul and say disgusting things. They like to think they’re gamers, but what they really are are losers. Most are fat, not very attractive and have bad attitudes. They’re immature and have some weird thing about “western” women. Most are engaged with a man named Roosh V who is a major slut and whore and has NO morals and no soul. He pretends like he’s getting all sorts of women when in fact, he’s usually having sex with prostitutes. Most of these guys are probably bitter because they’re in that generation who got a college degree and now can’t find a job and have no prospects, which really is sad. I feel for them. But not at the expense of women. They’re pathetic little weasels and very misguided. Maybe they’ll grow up one day and realize that the things they say about women are merely a projection of how they feel about themselves – that THEY’RE worthless.
        Having lots of self esteem is something gamer guys hate. They prey on women who have been abused or have low self esteem, like themselves. I hope they’re proud of the misery that they compound, but one gets the idea that they are just too self-absorbed and whiny to get that they can cause someone real harm. Like I said, useless noobs, all.

        1. The men are not losers. You are merely assigning false motivation to their apt commentary in a weak attempt to discredit their arguments.
          The men here do not “hate ALL women”. That is just the same old straw-man argument that angry self-entitled princesses hide behind to promote their intolerance. Men don’t like anyone with an extremely inflated sense of self-worth. Who would?
          The women here whine and project that behaviour onto those they cannot debate. Ad hominem attacks are the defensive tool of the immature.
          Laying down insults is far more a demonstration of bitterness than anything you have accused others of.
          Princesses are the last people that should be complaining that players might cause some collateral damage. You don’t seem to care how many good and honest men have to endure the disrespect the typical online diva issues.
          Full details:
          http://gaul7000.wordpress.com/2013/06/14/you-are-completely-wrong-jayne/

        2. LOL. Yes, the comments here reveal so many “good” men. Hey feller, you attract your own water level. If all you can find are “princesses”, then you ain’t looking very hard. Maybe you should adjust your attitude, quit drinking the haterade and become who you’d like to attract.

        3. Conveniently forgetting the hostility that provokes colourful responses are we? That’s pretty weak, even for a neophyte let alone someone who is experienced enough to be so critical of “noobs”.
          Stop breathing the fumes from the “Kruel-Aid” you are brewing in your cauldron. Your opposition harbours no hate. It’s more amusement with your hostility and denial.
          Apparently one has to become a woman to attract a woman… wtf?
          Full details:
          http://gaul7000.wordpress.com/2013/06/15/you-are-completely-wrong-jayne-part-4/

        4. Read the article and the comments and then tell me who’s cruel. Any sentient being with a functioning heart, cerebral cortex and soul can determine who’s being not only cruel, but creepy. Many (and stronger) other adjectives could attach, but I’m saving myself some time.
          And no, you don’t have to become a woman. You become the sort of person that you would like to attract. I didn’t think that needed explaining.
          Get off the internet, experience real life, real women and quit being so darn cynical, son. And remember my advice to take nothing personally. Nothing. OTOH, if something/someone (like me, lol) touches a nerve, you may want to have a talk with yourself on what the truth may actually be and take steps on self improvement. Again, you’re welcome, 😉

        5. “Read the article and the comments …” —– Sorry, the reference to “cruel” was clearly pertaining to your repeated attempts at injuring any who oppose you by concentrating on false notions of them having sexual frustration and personal demons. You are aware of this and are only seeking to deflect from it. Luckily, even those with a mere nerve ganglion serving as a brain can see that weak attempt. Nice try. Even so, you are still absolutely incorrect (read the details for a comprehensive proof).
          “And no, you don’t have to become a woman…” —– The comment about “I have to become a woman” was an obvious bit of tongue-in-cheek (well… at least obvious to most). Of course I had forgotten how contemptuous you are of those who do not agree with you. We guys is just stupids. Lol. It is ironic that you continue to see any who oppose your views in the worst light possible (yet advocate that others adopt a more optimistic attitude).
          “Get off the internet, experience real life, real women…” —– I don’t have the weakness you wish I had, so your advice to be introspective is moot. On the other hand, your initial post was, without doubt, a litany of libel and unmistakably emotional. It is clear that the article reached deep into you and unchained some inner demons. You may want to explore this.
          “I hope you get your life and priorities together, Ta” —– Your sentiments are there only to disingenuously support your false claim that any who support the notion of embellished presentation MUST be suffering from some personal challenges. These false allegations are merely ways to resolve your faulty concepts in your own mind. They do not ring true and especially not in the minds of anyone who has read your posts and my refutations of your “reasoning”.
          Full Details:
          http://gaul7000.wordpress.com/2013/06/17/you-are-completely-wrong-jayne-part-5/

        6. wow…this whole thread is messed. Why is everything just pointing fingers at the women? women this women that…slut this whore that…wtf? lol Double standard here BIG time. Its ok for the men to come on there and “bang” anything and give tips on how to do it!! but the women cant because now they are slutty…dirty whores. That’s ridiculous…this whole discussion is ridiculous.

        7. Where does it say that women can’t? or that they are dirty whores for doing that? The only double standard I’ve read is how all these complaining women think it’s ok to call guys losers and stuff, but then whine about getting the same back in return.
          No one is pointing fingers at women.

        8. Cy Wrote:
          —–“wow…this whole thread is messed. Why is everything just pointing fingers at the women? women this women that…slut this whore that…wtf?”—–
          Answer:
          There is no such bias in defining the actions of either gender.
          Within the CONTEXT (a key concept that denigrators love to conveniently ignore) of this article, there is a focus on the more purely hedonistic denizens of sites like POF. In that sense, the men can be equally referenced as particularly interested in only sexual relations too. I do not see where this is being dismissed or avoided. Is that not the very definition of being a player?
          The choice of descriptors in the article is mostly for colour and effect. It is not different that calling players, “players” or “horn dogs” or “skirt chasers”. It is doubtful that any of the players here (or anywhere else for that matter) mind being called what they are.
          In regards to successfully soliciting the attention of the more purely hedonistic women (and even those less so) it is noted that main challenge is that of inflated self-worth. This is definitely a behaviour that exhibits a correlation to gender.
          Cy Wrote:
          —–“lol Double standard here BIG time. Its ok for the men to come on there and “bang” anything and give tips on how to do it!! but the women cant because now they are slutty…dirty whores.”—–
          Answer:
          Yes. LOL.
          Just where is there this alleged “Double Standard” that you are speaking of? It’s equally as “ok” for women to go there and “bang” anything and give tips on how to be successful at it. In fact, it is very likely that players would welcome slutty dirty whores with open, er… arms.
          Cy Wrote:
          —– “That’s ridiculous…this whole discussion is ridiculous.” —–
          Yes. An assertion of a double standard is ridiculous.
          Most of this discussion is just refutation of the typical spurious accusations by a few, but very vocal individuals with an agenda to harass those they cannot successfully debate. Dealing with this type of misinformation is not ridiculous.

      2. Hey Frost, I would love a coach. I put up an honest pic and profile and I get ZIP on POF. I am looking for a relationship, but man, you are ABSOLUTELY correct (you wrote this article, yeah?). Do you coach people on this stuff privately?

    2. hm.. interesting….
      you do realize that women have access to this website too, don’t you?

    3. hm.. interesting….
      you do realize that women have access to this website too, don’t you?

        1. No, not really. Implying that the women who troll this site are representative of women in general is misleading. The women that are worth considering neither actively seek this topic nor are they likely to come across it.

        2. Well I’m worth it, more than you’ll ever know with a character like yours. I happened on this by accident and refuse to believe that most guys on POF are like you. FYI, getting laid gets pretty boring after awhile when there is no sincerity or other connection. Good luck, you’re ging to need it.

        3. How would you know what my character is like? You have a biased opinion like all who can’t accept that sites like plenty of fives are bad mainly because of delusional women who think they are all god-gift to men.
          Just “happened” on this? In the middle of a long thread? Not likely. You are just lurking and post just to bash men.

        4. It is sad that this world had come to the point of lying. What happened to being an honest person?

        5. Lying?
          People apply marketing techniques when the negotiation demands it. As far as HONESTY, there is far less honesty in those who pretend to be “open minded” and “looking for a connection” when they are really only looking for that connection if the guy is a 9 or a 10.
          Not only that, they are not being honest when they use photographs that are years old, or hide details that others may be interested in.
          It’s easy to suggest that men are “not honest” when sites like POF demand height down to the inch, while only have weight as a relative opinion.
          If women on POF want honesty, then be honest first. Stop being delusional and thinking that being a 5 will get you a 10. Stop treating any one below your threshold (of 10) as trash. Better yet, just meet someone in the real world. There, you are what you are, and so are they.
          How hard is that?

        6. since i joined 5 mnths ago, a widow, the men are only looking to get laid and then thay dissappear.

        7. That may be what you have experienced. However, it is unlikely that all the men (or even a greater share of them) are only concerned with only a sexual encounter. The percentage of men legitimately looking for a mate on sites like POF just isn’t represented in that testimonial.
          Even if it were that most were looking for this, the observation DOES NOT remove the clear evidence that most of the women on POF are delusional types that are trying to get a “trophy”.

        8. oh yes they are! I am a single self supporting single mom still own my home and i have never told a lie on a dating site. and its sad how this site is even here. What a bastard that man is. Im not going to lose faith in all men. just most. i am glad i ran across this site. and Mr. beddie I am a catch!

        9. If you have never told a lie on a dating site, it is still a single instance. Most men agree that the greater proportion of women on plenty-of-trash exaggerate to the point of lying isn’t retracted by your single experience.
          The sad thing is NOT how men have to use these tactics, but rather that they HAVE to use them because of how MOST of the women over-inflate their self-worth. If you are to lose faith in most of anything, you should lose it in women.
          The proof of being a “catch” is in the actions, and not words. Most women that are “catches” don’t have to resort to a dating site. Just being out in the real world is more than enough opportunity to be “caught”. You’ll probably come up with all sorts of excuses why not though.

        10. lol, I came across this after googling “how good is plenty of fish”. this was pretty much the fourth thing that popped up. So no, you don’t have to troll this site or actively seek how get laid to come across this post.

        11. ROFLMAO. Right… you came across this coincidentally everytime your previous comment gets refuted. Your actions prove that you are trolling. Like the typical troll you know you are wrong but can’t accept it. The thread may pop up, but you are dredging up a comment from long ago, “worth it”.

        13. Only the men that women seem to be interested in. They will overlook the good vanilla ‘nice’ guys who actually want a relationship for the douchebag they KNOW straight up is only looking for sex. Women aren’t hard to figure out. Just throw up a pic of you looking like a bad boy, and you’ll have a ton of women lined up (even messaging the man FIRST). Act like a jerk and women (even the women who SAY they want a relationship) will change their mind in an instant.
          *Been an active user off and on for 5 years now (2009-2014). I played the nice guy at first, and got barely any responses. Then I threw up some hardcore pics of myself and started acting like a bold jerk and got laid more times than you can count.*
          Women aren’t hard to figure out guys. Trust me.

        14. Colleen,
          Only the men that women seem to be interested in. They will overlook
          the good vanilla ‘nice’ guys who actually want a relationship for the
          douchebag they KNOW straight up is only looking for sex. Women aren’t
          hard to figure out. Just throw up a pic of you looking like a bad boy,
          and you’ll have a ton of women lined up (even messaging the man FIRST).
          Act like a jerk and women (even the women who SAY they want a
          relationship) will change their mind in an instant.
          *Been an active user off and on for 5 years now (2009-2014). I played
          the nice guy at first, and got barely any responses. Then I threw up
          some hardcore pics of myself and started acting like a bold jerk and got
          laid more times than you can count.*
          Women aren’t hard to figure out guys. Trust me.

        18. You forget something Karma “your own home” plus your oven has fetched toasters. So technically you have your full circle of life. ^_^ … If I was to say I’m a really nice guy. Working in computers looking for a stable relationship will you consider? Now let me guess what your looking for should I start:::
          Guy who is 6″6 + makes 6-figures + does the dishes + tucks your babies to bed + then tucks u LOLL princess in todays shit nobabama economy 6-figure man wont have time for you and yours. You will go in his world rather than him coming in yours. REALITY GRAVITY PRINCESS..THERE ARE NO PRINCESS. Saw a single mum like u lie to her 7yr old daughter there are princess as she looked me in the eyes. How would you like your stupid. And yes I cam my catches so rate me LOL I’m not that hard to find either. -Jin man

        21. Because nobody wants the real you, society makes individuality a curse and causes people to conform to the disgusting standards that so many people especially females abide by. That is why you hide the real person and the semblance of the athletic sexy douche bag is what is placed as a lure in hopes that the female will nactually like the real you.

        22. If being honest got guys laid, then so many men wouldn’t be dishonest.

        23. Single moms are the easiest to have sex with. Don’t even have to spend money on them.

        24. Well reading the comments on here made me want to apply the lessons even more. Thanks for posting the comments about how the girls won’t fall for it; i think they missed the memo though :/
          Just kidding. I actually kept the truth about my career and everything else. But messaging; i applied that advice and it helped wonders. I nevery thought about showing interest with a lack of interest…. Thats already got me written all over it. Why didn’t i think of that?
          Thanks for the good read!

        25. pof is full of skanks, why would you want to use it to get laid? You can check it out by reading all comments here and on other review forums. Nobody finds anyone and half profile are dead in any case! Looking at what they say on dateatlas and reviewcentre its just more of the same b.s. the only thing you get for free is their ads.

        26. It’s simply supply-and-demand. Men demand more for sex than women due to cultural reasons. Eventually we’ll see more women being as openly promiscuous as men and this will be less of a problem.
          Nevertheless, these methods described above is understandable. It’s quite standard in “real-life” and our entire economy is based on bullshit. This phenomena, by the way, goes well beyond the discount stores.

        27. Theoretically, no one can be honest. It’s just how our society is setup. Just look at the profile pictures and what not. Most – on both sides – are quite exaggerated. Due to a high male-to-female ratio, men are going to be scrutinised more.

        28. bitter little misogynist! People (men and women) will try to look good otherwise no conversation will be started as everyone is superficial. No doubt a 1 who feels entotled to a 10

        29. Treating women as equals and not calling them stupid sluts
          for having sex would mean that they could enjoy their sexuality and would be much more willing to engage in sex because it wouldn’t be so degrading! it’s all your own fault for having your filthy double standards you backwards medieval
          cunt! How about allowing women to enjoy their sexuality without the presumption that they are sullied by it… radical I know. However I’m sure you’d rather stick to lying, hating and badmouthing. Yey for imaginary equality!

        30. Why because they are stupid enough to like a pat on the head and never question your authority. Pathetic scumbag, death would be too good for you. Being castrated whilst awake would be good. The women who are worth dating would wonder if it is worth going on pof. Clearly not, Though it”s only representative of real society and real society is full of horrid men like you. Wish women had testosterone as murdering the lot of you could only have a positive impact on the world.

        31. Why is everyone complaining about pussys and girls they need sex plus pussy stand strait right now hot dog wienners only white chicks qualify for these dogy him for behaving bad girl make hot dog weinners out of his penis by the way my name is Sukhvinder Chatha.

        34. Lol these ugly bimbos are on pof cause they cant land their 10 in real life. I dont know why they waste their time online either though.. their unrealistic expectations that they deserve no less then a Brad Pitt when they are ugly as fuck or average at best is a fucking joke. Good luck ugly bitches the world is laughing at you.

        35. I’m on POF right now and I dated a guy who got mistaken for Brad Pitt all the time (I met him in real life and he was the one after me)…so what’s your point??? I would like to add that I get approached on POF 95% of the time by guys who would never approach me in real life. It goes both ways. Nice misogynist attitude there, buddy. Get you lots of dates??

        36. The problem you find, most of these hearts and flowers type guys, who want a “relationship” and not just sex, really want a replacement mommy to wash their arse and pick up their clothes.

      2. men are too stupid to think with their brain! I would love to meet the bastard! KARMA !

        1. No. Most women think that shouting down logic is somehow going to change the truth. It might work that why in your mind, but reality isn’t represented there. “Karma” has nothing to do with *DELUSION*

        4. No, only some “men are too stupid to think with their brains.” It strikes me that there is a possibility that you are a female version of Frost. I do however agree with your statement relative to karma.

        5. I totally agree with you. Most women DO feel they can overpower the discussion with expressing their emotions to try to overwhelm their man, and it is the most annoying thing to watch, and I feel extreamly bad for guys who are in this position. I’ve dated a few guys who didn’t have their fathers and were raised totally by their mothers, and they instinctively learned to do exactly this kind of behavior.. and honestly… it is the stupidest shit ever. I love to actually just sit down and calmly talk about any issue, lay them out, and find a logical solution that works for everybody.. but then again I have a problem with bottling up my emotions and can come off as a robot at times x,x but wtv, that’s something i’ll work out lol

      3. then how come there are so many naïve women out there that fall for men’s bullshit lines all the time? you feed them some pillow talk and that’s all they need. I’m not like this, but I have a lot of friends that are girls and I here the same shit all the time how they said they would do this or that they did that, and later found out that it was all lies, but the nice guy always finishes last???

        1. All us good men really looking for a relationship not just sex are over looked because of bs from the first one. I was told to try pif an i have found this is no date site its a flurt site. EAR CANDY THATS IT.

        2. After i riffled through the trash of all the other men sending me absolute garbage.. I finally found the man that I have been dating for over 3 years. Keep looking, you’ll eventually find the right one!

      4. Most are too stupid to look and use their phones shouldn’t be hard. I mean look at all the single moms.

        1. Your a complete ass and just cause you can’t find a woman that will put up with your stuff don’t down the other man out there who are really wanting a relationship.

        2. hm. To be real honest with you, I truly feel that you are half right. It’s easy to focus on something and let it surround us and be all we see and therefor feel true. After looking around at everyone … there has always been one truth that has always stayed solid, and that is people are as dumb just as equally as they are inteligent, no matter what their gender is. So when I see that someone is pinning a certain generaliszation on something, it’s because that is their experience of what they keep on noticing and honestly, it makes me so mad that they have to go through so much of that shit in their lives.

      5. Some men are idiots… not all the girls on pof are “stupid, fat, gold diggers, or desperate.” More importantly you should teach men to be men and not pussy’s.

        1. Of course I agree with you, eventhough it’s 2 years later lol But from what I notice on these dating websites, espeacially POF… the majority of the females there are “fake” and totally “cruel”, and are looking to take advantage of “men”, so when I see people talk with such hatred against them, I’m starting to see it as self defense, and revenge. Part of me wants to say “good for you! don’t let these btches fk with you, and fk with them instead to teach them a lesson!” but at the same time, I worry and see how messed up of a habbit that is to play that game. Like seriously… why bother? Why not just ditch all those grimy btches, and just look for girls who are down to earth? I know it gets lonely and is hard to find good girls, but they are out there waiting for good guys. Why settle for “bad” girls where you feel a certain level of hatred for them, just to pass the time until you find a girl that is great for you? like… fk… I see guys get fkd over so often, and it makes me so mad that they keep chassing after girls who disrespect them and treat them badly. If being a player is the only way some guys need to be in order to feel strong, independant, and not be taken advantage of cuz they’re not the victim anymore, they’re the predator…. then good luck with that, fools lol like really… good fkn luck… if you guys enjoy sticking your dck into something you don’t even respect, you might as well fk a raw piece of meat at the grocery store. you might as well be a ho fkn all these tricks for the money… like seriously though, this is what you need to do in order to feel big? play games? like are you a fkn cheerleader? is this high school? do you feel like such a geek that the prospect of being “the popular kids” is so appealing to you that you’re down to play mind games just to feel successful in the social sexual world? Fk man… this shit is so fake lol Let me tell you guys something. The best way to put a btch in her place, is not to stoop to her level and play her game to win it. The best thing you can do, which also feels like the BIGGEST insult ever honestly, is to look in her eyes as you notice she’s doing it, and just walk away from her. Ditch that btch. I tell you not, that right there will hit her on such a deep level lol it will make her feel like a fkn moron and a loser, and it will make you seem like a BOSS because you don’t take no crap from no one! And not only do you not take it, but you also don’t give it, because you are fkn real. you do what you want, and play no ones foolish games, because you are a real man and nobody can fk with you!

      6. Not all man are like this, please don’t judge all man by his actions, some of us see women as beautiful people, and not sperm banks

        1. oh i totally agree with you. I personally feel that not all males are the same, since I have guy friends that share their secrets with me and speak freely. Some of them are hilarious lovable perverts even lol

      1. oh, i just thoeught that it’s kinda bait to reveal your plans where the enemy can see it. but it doesn’t matter really. The guy is freakin dumb, but hilarious, i love him lol I looked through his tricks and tactics.. and man lol this is the funniest shit i have ever seen xp I hope he posts more shit like this, because it is so much fun to read XD he is so awesome haha xp

    5. lmfao. I read your page, it made me laugh so hard! you are fkn hilarious xp do more hahahahahahahahahahhaa xp

  4. I had a girl use this line on me and I have found it gives better results than the ‘you seem interesting line. “Well…anyway. I thought your profile was interesting and that you seem like a pretty genuine person. Thought I’d say hi and see where it goes.”
    Open with a short bit related to one of her hobbies. ‘Hey I like music too. I went to see guns n roses once in Canada and axl didn’t show so a riot broke out.’
    Then throw out the you seem genuine line. I find it to be much more disarming in the creep infested internet world and have actually had girls thank me for the nice message.

    2. Thanks for stating the obvious. Be cool and just know sexy babes don’t go on social media. They marry lawyers and think their lies are really good, not recognizing their boyfriends are playing them just to get poon. I used to date a porn actress babe who married a lawyer. Peace, JPM

    1. Also, POF = Plenty Of Fives
      But, in my city at least, if you sort properly and spend a bit of time scanning, it’s a great resource for 7s and the odd 8. Any quarry higher than that must be found in its natural environment though, hence why online game should be a supplement to a man’s dating life, not his primary hunting grounds.

      1. I brought up this dating-site to some guys I worked with, and lots of laughter came soon afterwards..I guess they were thinking that the “fish” part of the stupid name of this site means the smell of the women!

      1. LOL!
        “can slim” [down]… yet apparently have not. Having the ability but not “exercising” it is quite telling of one’s character.
        On the contrary, the nebulous term of “ugly” is usually a way to group totally alterable traits with ones that are not. People who don’t take the effort to take care of themselves but think it’s the same as, say, being naturally bald are DELUSIONAL.
        Besides, these tactics are for netting those that pay more attention to their mental and physical well-being.

  6. Great post, Frosty. That’s a compliment, you’re one cold ass honkey.
    Your advice on being liberal with the truth on height, and all other aspects, is spot-on, after all, women take the body type signifiers with similar liberalism. Hey, they that because the average woman in america is fat, they can call their fat selves average.
    Me, I’m exactly 5’11 when I wear my dress boots with the three inch lifts in them. That’s parity, bitches.
    I haven’t tried the online dating thing, because I’m still working on some logistics–I’m trapped in distant, boring suburbs of a big, happening city. But when I get that shit sorted out, I’m on like donkey kong for this game. I assume that POF game as described would actually work on any dating site, including OKC or Match. I’m not sure about e-harmony or other paid sites.

    1. Eharmony is a different beast and I’ll be working it extensively over the summer. And living in a suburb is an obstacle, but it’s not fatal. There will always be a reason not to go out…

        1. WOW! Your game playing will definitely catch up to you and you’re a damn fool if you think otherwise. Feel free to respond to me at gofuckyourself.com

        2. Frost apparently knows a lot about a major portion of the women that inhabit sites like plenty of fish. You are just “shooting the messenger”. If most of these “women” behaved with openness and honesty, there wouldn’t be the massive amounts of men complaining about how much online dating sucks.
          Catch up? There’s a long way for men to go down the road of deception and coyness to “catch-up” to what they have to deal with on sites like POF.

        3. yes but at least if we meet him we can tell are good looking dates what a prat he was !lol
          girls rule its a womens worldxx

        4. Girls “rule”, yet cannot tell the difference between “our” and “are”. Perhaps some rulers should pay attention in school instead of believing that being a princess on POF is representative of the real world. Lol.

        5. If we didn’t see women go for it day after day after weekend after weekend, we might be suspicious…but alas….it fucking works. We simply evolved to the game. If you don’t agree, maybe you should get off your ass and do something about it to educate the stupid sluts that infest this nation.

        6. Absolutely right on the money. These “voice of reason” types are just beeeatching because they see that men can play the games too.

        7. Dumb as she is, the whore is correct: girls rule, it is indeed a woman’s world.
          What do you think civilization is for?
          Society is a semi-stable, brittle artifice created by men to coddle women and their spawn for the sole purpose of ensuring reproductive success.
          When it fails to meet that objective it will crumble.
          Have you checked Western population replacement rates lately? Enjoy the decline! (Just don’t get crushed in the collapse.)

        8. I really don’t understand what the big deal is with this post. If everyone would just admit they just want some booty every once and a while then we wouldn’t be having this discussion.
          If you are a girl on POF that wants something serious and not to just get laid then you should keep your legs closed until you get to know the guy. You can’t blame the guys that are just playing the game that we started.
          People need to lighten up. It sounds like you all need to get laid! LOL
          And no I am not some 19 year old that doesn’t know anything. I’m 29, a nurse with a career and a life.

  8. You sure like to plug your blog, don’t you!
    Also, a guy being between 5’2 and 5’5 wouldn’t be a plus for me. I could look past it if I liked the guy, but it would make me feel like he towered over me, and that’s never a nice feeling.

  9. What about your age? Should you lie about that as well? I’m 34 but could pass late 20s. I think a detriment to dating young chicks is the age gap, but I haven’t tried lying about it yet. I figured I’d need a fake ID to evidence that I’m 27.

    1. Yeah absolutely lie about your age. I plan on staying *27* for as long as I can get away with it.
      And I doubt you’ll get called out for being older and need a fake ID. I lie down to 25 for some younger girls and never get called out. Girls, young girls especially, just don’t really give a shit about anything other then whether or not they’re having fun.

    2. Can women even tell age?
      My father has been banging a 40 year old woman for a few months now. She thinks he’s 45, not his actual age of 58. I’m 42! His combination of pefect game and high fitness for his age group is inspiring.
      My mate Al is 43, and an extremely-macho 6 ft 4 alpha who pushes their buttons enough with his muscled body and obvious breeding potential that woman are constantly approaching him. The 22 year old blonde cutie at the bakery, fishing for information about him from me, revealed that she thinks he’s 27-28.
      I suspect women rationalise away age differences to the point of delusion. If they want a high-status man badly enough, they’ll try to mentally will the man into the ‘peer’ age range.

  10. This whole article was hilarious and informative. Keep it up. I’ve got some decent bangs in the past, my profile is already pretty vague but after reading this i will tweak it some more until it screams “highly educated drug dealer” as you suggest.
    Im dead serious about that. I fucked some twenty one year old college educate bar slut a while back who was disappointed when i told her i WASN’T a drug dealer.

  14. This article is a hoot…I laughed my ass off at the weight categories.
    This is the male version of what women do with long term relationships.
    This is the man’s best revenge.
    Catch ’em, enjoy them for your pleasure, make them do all the hard work, and then ditch them. Just be careful, because some do come with hefty barbs that can be hard to unhook from.
    Women come all hottie and sexy and slutty. They’ll suck you and beg for anal and do most anything you can imagine, and some things you didn’t even think of.
    But once the shiney wrapper is off, and the drive for kids kicks in (which incidentally, they don’t really want either, it’s just hormones… think natural drugs talking…..kids make most women stressed, tired, miserable, overweight, boring, tedious, conservative, and lonely) Whereas a guy can actually have a whole lot of fun with little kiddies.
    Anyway… once the long term “serious” relationship ideals kick in, which really translate into my hormone rush has warped my brain and i now want to incubate an 8lb parasite inside my body.
    The whole I love you and I’m such a sexual hottie, turns out to be the biggest con in the world. Even if you’re not in it just for the sex you’ll soon find , that once you’re available as her partner, husband whatever…. that she treats you like the biggest piece of shit in the world.
    The only way a man can win this, is by treating them like dirt.
    I am quite convinced if you are cocky enough you can have a virtual harem of bitches on tap. It’s that fine line of undermining their insecurities, letting their BS bounce off you, but being the cool guy that’s just out of reach. Have 4-5 local girls on tap and treat them like dirt bags and rotate them out as they try to put one on you.
    My buddy has one of the best tricks, he deliberately drinks too much when they go out, so he gets home too drunk to have sex. The girlie gets all excited for sex and he knocks them back…. talk about turning the tables,it drives them nuts… they wonder what is wrong with them. They are so used to betas fawning over them, for a sniff of pussy, if you take them out and get them all juicing, get them home, get them naked and then lose interest….the lose their mind…..
    great trick…. beat the bitches at their own game.

    1. Why are you so angry? You guys are giving the rest of us guys a bad name. Again, why are you so angry? Why do you hate women so much. It sounds like you reallly were in love with some chick at some point and she dumped you.

      1. Rest of us “guys”? Really, Lulany?
        The anger you see is actually coming from within. Where is there any hate for women? People here may have no appreciation for angry women who literally scream and shout insults the moment they can’t have their opinion accepted without question, but there’s no hate for women.
        If my girlfriend behaved this way… well, she wouldn’t be my girlfriend would she? Read the posts as the really are, and not as the “hate” you think it is.

      2. Why are you such a troll? You sound like some unhappy woman pretending to be a guy and doing a really bad job at it since no man would be such a kiss-up to the angry feminists ranters that show up here and act like they “just stumbled upon” the thread.

      3. Yahoo!! A normal guy Sam! On point!! These Gus who do this are little boys crying inside because they can’t handle rejection. Sociopathic and psychopathic behavior.

        1. Boohoo! Sam is a fake “guy” created by one of the feminists here that don’t have a real argument and instead resorts to trolling. NONE of “Sam”s post are “on point” and you know it.
          Can’t handle rejection? Some people clearly can not handle not being able to “have their way” in a discussion. That would be more in line with psychopathic behavior than your invented criticism.

        2. As if, you troll. You’re probably Sam since Sam is just one of those angry feminists that stamp their feet and throw a tantrum because they can’t have their way.

        1. I concur… Sam is a feminist pretending to be a white knight. Anger issues. All with themselves.

    2. Richard, I bet it never occurred to you that it’s not the “bitches” of the world that are the problem; the problem is you.
      The reason you always come across the same bitches is because you date
      the same woman over and over again. A woman who represents your mother
      who probably was miserable with your father because he treated women the
      same way you do… Like chattel. Do us all a favour, never reproduce. There are some very intelligent, attractive women out there. Unfortunately, we’re all too smart for the likes of you!

      1. amateur psychiatry?
        has it ever occurred to you that personal attacks are the typical response of those with nothing to say? You are only posting to vent anger. Do yourself the favour and find a way to be constructive. If you are so smart, why haven’t you come up with anything on topic?

        1. There is nothing in this article that warrants discussion as it is personal attack on all women, as well as degrades decent men. The article was written by a sociopathic mind and backlash is entirely appropriate. There is nothing of substance in that article but how to abuse all women. Clearly this man and his followers can’t handle rejection, and don’t know how to find a good woman. So instead of figuring out how to change they infect the pool further by intentionally damaging innocent women.

        2. Nothing that warrants discussion as it “is a personal attack on ALL women”? Wrong (as usual).
          It is clearly not ALL women as it is about the delusional inflated ego types that ruin sites like plenty of fish. The only people that demonstrate a sociopath’s behavior are those that repeat the same old “you’re attacking ALL women” lie as an excuse for personal attacks.
          There is NOTHING in such comments other than an agenda to harass those you cannot successfully engage in civil debate.
          Clearly some cannot handle being WRONG and resort to this form of trolling. Why not try to help in cleaning up the pool. A start would be to not pretendi that there is any valid reason for this ad nauseam “it’s an attack on ALL women”, and admit that the problem is those use online dating to stroke their bruised ego.

    3. oh dear..you have had some bad experiences..have you thought about intense therapy..lol i would recommend..

      1. oh dear indeed..you are misdirecting towards an attack on the character of those you disagree with and basically avoiding the topic. Have you though about what that says about your point (as in you don’t have one)? lol.

        1. Oh dear, there is nothing but hate, and sociopathic statements in that article. You men should ask yourselves if you condone this behavior for your sisters, daughters, and mothers. Remember what you support will bite uou right in the ass!

        2. Oh dear, you have nothing to say so you just repeat the same old misconceived “it’s all women” when it’s been explained that it clearly isn’t. Remember what is being supported is a way to get past the delusional attitudes of women on plenty of fish.

    4. see now I would worry about this statement ” Whereas a guy can actually have a whole lot of fun with little kiddies.” Little kiddies as in Children…… glad to know we are the ones with a problem

      1. You sure are the ones with the problems since you are taking the comment out of context as usual.

    5. wow I wouldn’t want to date any of u ………too above this website
      have u been scorned so much u all have to resort to this look not every one on pof is bad or a whore lacking intelligence or just guy getting laid what a stereo type u got some growing up to do

      1. Most of the women on pof are of the delusional type. There might be a very small percentage, but the fact that women attractive and realistic in their own worth don’t have to online has been covered a number of times.
        It’s not a “stereotype”. It’s the facts.
        You are just trying to shame people for speaking up, and that is immature.

        1. What has been covered a number of times? There are great women and men online who use it because certain type of people are not in their social circles…it’s hard for me to meet a man of my age outside my race. I don’t work around them, didn’t go to school with them etc. They are scared to come up to me in everyday life because they assume I don’t date outside my race. I have met wonderful men outside my race who admit they would have never come up to me because it I look like the type who only dates my race. I don’t go to bars and stop going to clubs a long time ago ..online is a good place to meet new folks outside my social circle. I have had one long term relationship from online and is currently dating someone from POF which I was new to. Yes, it’s true that people find me refreshing and some are shocked to get the real thing which I always find so sad, more ppl should be honest. I know plenty of hot gorgeous gals online looking for someone outside their normal circle…try it, you might get lucky.

        2. So the article teaches men how to have sex with unattractive skanks
          And women are the dumb bitches?

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    6. @richardw1:disqus This is really the most sincere comment on here. Glad that it got the most LIKES. I’ve been on POF and other dating sites for a long time now. And I used to play the vanilla ‘beta’ good nice guy. That barely got me any responses. Then I threw up some hardcore pics of myself, and made myself look like a Jerk on my profile. Not only did I get more responses from women, but they were actually sending me messages FIRST. Telling me that they respect that I was being real and honest. Women may say they are looking for a nice guy for an LTR, but a little pushing and telling them what they REALLY want, will eventually prove to you that women lie more on that site than men do.
      What you said about how women are no different than men is exactly what I’d been thinking too. They have ‘FLINGS’ too. The only difference is, a man will have a fling that lasts one night. A woman will have a fling that lasts 6 months. Then when you succumb to being a YES DEAR, YES MY LOVE, YES MY PRINCESS, type of beta male, she will have a wandering eye for alpha males that are a challenge and leave you crying on her doorstep.
      I’ve basically called women out for their lies on POF about wanting a good nice guy, and they will eventually admit that I”m RIGHT. They really want the bad boy. Love is nothing but a game to women. I think they are more in love with the IDEA of being in love. But once a man reciprocates and shows her love too, she falls out of love, or takes his love for granted, or BOTH. And it usually kicks in around the 6 month mark in a relationship when she loses interest.

  15. As a hardened POF vet, I can attest to about 90% accuracy in the above. Well presented, sir!

  17. Frost i like it but you are saying we should lie and fuck girls if we have AIDS? Wtf? Do you have AIDS?

  18. All I can say is what a group of pathetic men you are. Let’s hope you’re Mothers and Sisters and one day Daughters (that’s if anyone would consider an actual relationship with anyone of you) don’t get treated and played by you cold hearted freaks! I’m a
    female on POF with a career and defiantly not stupid, so good luck trying to
    play me…

    1. you DEFINITELY don’t come across as stupid, especially when you appear to be redefining the English language with new words.

    2. Unfortunately, the stupid never realise that they’re stupid.
      You start a sentence with ‘All I can say is…’, but then continue for two more sentences, making two other points.
      Your, not you’re.
      Cold-hearted, not cold hearted.
      You mean ‘definitely not stupid’, rather than ‘defiantly’, which shows us that you are.
      Men don’t care about your intelligence or your career.

      1. no cause they don’t have one!lol well honey ive been on and off pof for two years and nobody has slept with me ! us girls have brains and today darling its a women world!lol
        Its the women who have the house and the money !lol
        Today we have choice and do we want one to take home ? honest naaa !lol

        1. If one is “proud” to have been sporadically on a dating site for two years and has not intimately connect with anyone, their reasons to be there are suspect.
          It’s a dating site. In typical relationships, this will eventually lead to physical intimacy. To boast about how this has not happened is either claiming successful failure, or pointing to another agenda.
          Coupled with the taunting we see here, it is likely this agenda is to feed one’s bruised ego by rejecting others. This motive is generally fed by a sense of vengeance for being rejected themselves on a regular basis. This typifies the behaviour of POF delusional women. They are out competed in the real world and seek to identify with those that are more attractive in this dysfunctional way.
          If the guy isn’t a trophy as in the stereotypical six-foot-plus hunk she will brush him off. In this way she feels she is just like the real world attractive women (or at least how she perceives they will act).
          Since there are few guys that are 8+ on POF (lot’s of 5’s, 6’s and 7’s but no 8’s and above) she spends her time rejecting and feeling proud of it. That is the crux of delusion.
          If the women had the house and money and so much choice, why spend the time on-and-off POF… just to NOT get intimacy from any from there? Furthermore, how does a woman with “so much choice” end up on a blog telling men how to score on POF?
          There’s not much honesty going on there. It’s more like someone is angry that the “choice” online doesn’t really include the hunks that they want to impress their peers with.
          That’s why sites like POF are a real waste-of-time for men looking for a real connection. Most of the women on there are trophy hunters (who are practically all 5 and below due their own lack of effort in becoming a better person).
          Guys. If you are looking for real keepers. Just go meet real women in the real world. The site is only good for the back-up plan when you are bored. Even then, you have to wade through schools of delusional types to find anything even remotely worthwhile. As the blog guy says, it’s a numbers game.

        2. amen brother!! lets not forget about the “women” who hate guys who talk about sex..only to throw every hint possible after the first few messages! lol
          oh and theres the ladies who lead on and on and on until the actual night before the meeting they block u! must be some numbers game? “i got him hooked..now on to the next to see how far i can string him along?”
          i know not all women are this way but omg!! theres a hell of a lot of them!!

      3. I am sure your father didn’t either when he did your mom, if ever you have daughters, don’t sweat it when your friends sons don’t care about their intelligence either.

    3. You aren’t fooling anyone, you know damn well behind all the games, when the chips are down and the truth comes out, women are just looking to get laid with the most alpha male around. Good luck fighting your instincts….men aren’t stupid, we know how to cheat at the game too.

      1. you men on this site are SCARY! You guys on this site sound like you’re one step away from being serial killers.

        1. No. But we all wonder about hostile individuals who cannot control their jealous rage and how it probably leads to more subversive methods to strike at others. You know… like pretending to be someone else once their more civil persona has unraveled.
          That’s not scary as much as pathetic. Hey, just my “opinion”, but I’m sure many will concur. Lol.

        2. Who is one step away from a serial killer? Your son would be “son of Sam”. Get a life loser.

        3. I like to empty out a box of cereal every now and then–but I am not what you think I am! BTW, Apple Jacks is a good cereal!

        4. Get lost you fraud. You’re not a man, you’re just one of those feminist ranters coming back and pretending to be some white knight. You’re the one that needs psychiatric therapy.

    4. Well said Caz…I’m with you and shocked at this posting.
      I feel as a society we have let women down. Women let themselves down because all they want is true love and guys treat them as an object…in the end I think they will get what they deserve…rot in hell vermin.

      1. Actually, Caz’s post is about as poorly said as possible.
        “Mothers, and sisters, and daughters”
        This merely employs the usual, “ALL women” hyperbole. When people criticize the behaviour of POF princesses, they are addressing a specific group of individuals. They are NOT talking about all women.
        As mentioned multiple times, these princesses are generally those who have been out-competed in the traditional channels (as in the real world). They come to POF and quickly mire themselves in the process of collecting messages that they will ignore as a way to feel desired. They do this at the EXPENSE of men who are honestly looking for a relationship.
        It is unlikely that balanced individuals with good self-esteem resort to this kind of dysfunctional existence. Certainly, one’s mother, sisters and daughters shouldn’t be sinking to that level. Thus Caz’s argument holds no water.
        “As a society we have let women down”
        Nothing could be further from the truth. If anything, the online dating system has been commandeered and largely poisoned by the subset of women that use it as a method of shoring up a bad self-image and low self-esteem.
        “Women let themselves down because all they want is true love”
        Again, we are neither talking about ALL women nor even women in general. It’s about the delusional women that think they can bag an 8, 9 or 10 when they are really a 5. There may be some desire for “true love”, but on the large part they want a trophy to show off with and plenty-of-messages to stroke their egos.
        “Guys treat them as objects”
        They only wish men would treat them as objects. Most guys overlook them in the real world.
        “rot in h3ll, vermin”
        Yes. True colours do come out. You have not presented any argument that demonstrates any reason why men would deserve such a fate. This latent hostility is the drive behind your conclusions.

        1. just talking about “princesses on pof”. Have you read the last 40 posts? You sir took a lot of time out of your day to write that long post. That in itself is not healthy

        2. Haven’t read them all yet, but how long it takes to write a post is not relevant to the reader. How kind of you think of my precious time and how it affects my health. So far, my fingers are fine. How is the trolling as a “Sam” the man doing for your anger management?

        3. Well, “Sam”, I’ve finally finished reading all the posts. You are definitely COMPLETELY in error. The whole thread is about how to succeed in a place that is filled with Princesses. So it is JUST talking about “princesses on pof” and you know it.
          Not only that, it is obvious you are a trolling version of Lulany and Melymorg. Along with a couple of other whiners, your puppet master really needs to accept that she is way off base.

        4. Sorry to break the news to you Mr Cat but Sam the man has gone off into the sunset maybe with a good woman off POF!!!
          Mel here (Melanie Morgan or Melymorg) , I am real as stated in a thread further down.
          I’ve spoken to Lulany on POF and yes she is not from the UK but a REAL, Live woman nevertheless.
          I don’t do whining Mr Cat, I did post a few comments but not in it for the long haul. Just a thought, how many characters are you in this particular soap opera?
          As stated Mr Cat ,we have waved the white flag , you have defended Frost’s honour with passion . I do hope the great man appreciated your valid effort, jolly good show . ……
          See you on the beach Mr Cat……
          ….

        5. ……Sorry to break the news to you Mr Cat but Sam the man has gone off into the sunset maybe with a good woman off POF!!!
          Mel here (Melanie Morgan or Melymorg) , I am real as stated in a thread further down……
          Lol. Answering for “sam” now are we. Oh, I forgot, you ARE sam. No one has said Mel wasn’t real (there is at least one real person behind all the trolling).
          ……I’ve spoken to Lulany on POF and yes she is not from the UK but a REAL, Live woman nevertheless…….
          Either way, that doesn’t change your actions or motives that are quite apparent.
          ……I don’t do whining Mr Cat, I did post a few comments but not in it for the long haul. Just a thought, how many characters are you in this particular soap opera?……
          You don’t do all the whining. It can be done with other names. That is why there are trolling versions like “sam”. I am as many characters as you think since you love conspiracy theories
          From your post earlier:
          “Several of my posts do not have my user name mely morg but are now post under guest.
          With out a doubt to discredit female posters as trolls”.
          No one has done that. You unsubbed but it didn’t remove the original, since it isn’t from the same unsubbed account.
          ……As stated Mr Cat ,we have waved the white flag , you have defended Frost’s honour with passion . I do hope the great man appreciates your valid effort, jolly good show . ……
          See you on the beach Mr Cat……
          Right, you’ve waved the white flag…. That totally explains why you CONTINUE to monitor this thread. Interesting how this new Melmorg only appears on this thread. It’s more like you are camping out ”under the bridge” like most trolls do.
          Trolling on a laptop on Barafundle, huh? (Probably why Barracuda is sometimes spelled Baracuda… hmmm…)

        6. Mr cat my style of writing is nothing at all like Sam the man , I’m sure an intelligent man such as yourself would have thought that from the off. I may refer to a gentleman as a guy, fella, bloke etc but in Wales we do not use the word dude!
          I did look at the posts hardly monitoring and saw my user name mentioned once again. My original post is from the same account , a few are guest for some unknown reason.
          I am wondering if you know the stretch of coastline you are referring to. Barafundle Bay is a magnificent stretch of coastline to be admired and walked in all weathers not the place for a laptop but a place to feel alive ……..
          …

    5. We can’t have sex with you intelligence or career. I’ll bet you a fattie who has to resort to POF. Let you hamster spin…for it will go into overdrive and you will wonder how you ended up with cats in your old age.

        1. Who cares if the guy can’t “speak English”. He still got his point across. Besides he’s actually a guy and not some angry woman who now pretends to be a guy in order to troll.

        2. English is not my first language loser. It took me a lot of hard work to learn English from my non-english speaking background, and I am still learning….you sound like some loser that has never worked hard for anything in her life…..typical of a fat woman like you. Your typical entitled feminist troll.

        3. Whats up with the poking fun at someones English. These guys are right. You are just a trolling version of one of the angry feminist here. Take a hike.

        6. What a total dumb thing to say you loser. Stop pretending to be a guy. like the guy said you = entitled feminist troll. Get lost.

    6. I think you meant “definitely” not stupid lmfao hope your not an editor!

  19. Well, all I can say, I am a woman and an intelligent one at that. By all means lie about age, weight, profession etc if It actually makes you feel better about yourself. I work in education and am neither lacking in intelligence, slutty or stupid. What I do fine stupid is the comments on here. By the way I have a profile on POF . If this is all you are looking for a lay , why not be honest? why do you feel the need to lie. …….

    1. Women logic: Say ‘All I can say’ then continue on for six more statements, of varying incomprehensibility.
      ‘What I do fine stupid’.
      ‘Is this is all you are looking for a lay’.
      ‘I work in education’. No wonder millennials are morons.

      1. I was typing rather quickly which of course you would have realised. Great logic on you part, I said “if ” not “is” . I try and treat others with respect and thought I made a valid point about honesty .Obviously wasted here ……..

        2. Another person with disturbed issues…nice! Read reply to Brononymous as it applies to you and Melymorg…keep talking, don’t let anyone close you off.

        3. Thank you for your kind reply. I post in the forums on pof but happened upon this article and the comments posted. The very best of luck to you…….

        4. Melymorg said:
          —Thank you for your kind reply. I post in the forums on pof and happened upon this article and the comments posted.
          I don’t mind constructive criticism, relating to the content of my post that’s to be expected. When it’s pointing out typing mistakes and the f*** up comment above then it’s time for
          me to leave. I believe we are vastly outnumbered !!
          Lovely to hear you have had
          some luck , I wish you the very best for the future……—
          Constructive Criticism relating to your post? Sure. We may forgo the spelling errors as that can happen in haste, but Brononymous was correct in assessing how you started your post with the assertion that you had only one thing to say… only to immediately contradict yourself.
          Speaking of contradiction, you stated that you would “bow out” of the conversation… yet returned a few days later. This is a more proof of the disingenuousness often associated with feigned righteousness.
          Don’t think its feigned righteousness? Let’s have a further
          look at your post:
          Melymorg said:
          —Well, all I can say, I am a woman and an intelligent one at that. By all means lie about age, weight, profession etc if It actually makes you feel better about yourself. I work in education and am neither lacking in intelligence, slutty or stupid. What I do fine stupid is the comments on here. By the way I have a profile on POF . If this is all you are looking for a lay , why not be honest? why do you feel the
          need to lie.—
          Here’s some obvious criticism of your “logic”…
          “lie about age, weight, profession etc. if it actually makes you feel better about yourself”.
          That is purposely misrepresenting Frost. The “embellishment” is not to directly “feel good about oneself”, it is about using very same “artistic license” that POF princesses use to get attention. What’s more is that Frost’s method even only mildly approaches the level of distortion that POF princesses employ on a regular basis. Nice try, but this type of misrepresentation in order to criticize an opposing view is pretty weak.
          “I work in education and am neither lacking in intelligence, slutty or stupid”.
          So? How does your particular claim of credentials above and beyond the targeted subset negate the existence of the subset? Please.
          “What I do [find] stupid is the comments on here.”
          While you have not clearly identified which comments, it is deduced you mean the comments in the direction you do not agree with. Aside from the limited number of personal jibes, where have these comments been “stupid”? Most of those arguing in support of Frost support their claims (something one isn’t doing with merely calling opposing comments, “stupid”).
          “If this all you are looking for [is] a lay, why not be honest?”
          This is about as disingenuous as it gets. You yourself have employed “dishonesty” in misrepresenting opposing views in order to refute them… and you ask, “why not be honest?” Please.
          It is obvious that the game requires a certain amount of
          marketing in order to “make a sale”. Pretending that high-fidelity representation will have success when most guys have quickly found that it doesn’t is a very thin disguise. Demanding this of men while, by dearth of protest in how POF princesses do far more “exaggeration”, not demanding it of women is ridiculous.
          It would be much better if POF actually committed itself to creating a better product, but judging from how they let princesses be princesses, it is naïve to apply a puritan approach such a free-for-all carnival and expect any results.
          Lol.
          That you post on the forums on Plenty-of-waste explains a
          lot. The forum there is about as biased as they get. It is nothing more than a monument to misguided feminist propaganda. The POF head moderator is the stereotypical
          out-competed 5-or-less (That includes the expected traits of weight-issues, inflated ego, and a definite over estimation of her own analytic abilities). She and her little gang of man-haters constantly slam men. It is well known that anyone who attempts to post in opposition to them is banned.
          Leave if you wish, but, it is not that you are outnumbered
          in this discussion. It is that you have brought no real argument to support your views.

        5. With regards to the the forums , it is not well known by me . I am a free thinking individual and post as I see fit. I did notice a ” clique ” when first posting but not of late and do not subscribe to the pack dog mentality and never will.
          I believe the owner is trying to market a better product and clean up the site. The link to this article was posted by a male who opposed it not a woman .
          With regards to me feigning righteousness. I received an email and thought to reply. My post was to the lady in question, no hidden agenda and once again I wish her well.
          On reflection stupid wasn’t an apt word to use. I find some of the comments disturbing.
          “you deserve to be raped” , amongst others.
          I still believe in honesty , if the article in question was written by a woman my views would the same. I stand by my convictions.
          What if this approach is adopted and all is not what it seems . There is a connection , what then , how do you move forward based on lies.

        6. Melymorg said:
          —With regards to the forums (U.K.) , it is not well known by me . I am a free thinking individual and post as I see fit. I did notice a ” clique ” when first posting but not of late and do not subscribe to the pack dog mentality and never will.—
          Whether the biased nature of the POF forum is apparent to you or not does not make it any less known to anyone else. Just being “free thinking” does not limit ones ability to post as one sees fit. It’s when that “free thinking” opposes the views of the biased moderators that is creates difficulty. I’m pretty certain you understand how “biased moderation” works. One doesn’t have to subscribe to “pack dog” mentality. One only has to agree with the biased moderators view.
          POF forums are clearly biased to support the misguided views of the feminist leftover chief moderator, whether one sees it or pretends not to.
          Melymorg said:
          —I believe the owner is trying to market a better product and clean up the site. The link to this article was posted by a male who opposed it not a woman .—
          Lol. People, who really can’t provide some support for their uncorroborated views, love to qualify unsubstantiated claims by labelling it as an opinion (as if having the “opinion” that 2+2 = 5, makes it equally valid to 2+2=4). You can “believe” what you want, but there is little evidence that the site owner has done ANYTHING to improve what is easily the worst dating site online. Other Internet dating venues don’t have anywhere near the amount of fake w4m ads, princesses, deluded time-wasters, and man-haters. It’s actually gotten worse over the years, so this “trying to market a better product” is pure fantasy (or he is really doing a bad job at it).
          “The link to this article was posted by a male”
          This has relevance, how? The gender of who decides to protest against what Frost has posted does not provide any more credibility to vacant arguments. If you are trying to imply that there are men opposed to these tactics, it is still meaningless. Having sycophants still does not create integrity. Only solid foundations do that.
          Melymorg said:
          —With regards to me feigning righteousness. I received an email and thought to reply. My post was to the lady in question, no hidden agenda and once again I wish her well.—
          Nice try at a deflection.
          Your post that contained the feigned righteousness was quoted. It was the one starting with “Well, all I can say, I am a woman and an intelligent one at that. By all means lie about age, weight, profession etc…” (from a month ago from this post now). It was NOT in regards to your post in response to “curious no more” (a day or so ago). That was pretty clearly laid out and is obvious to even the casual observer. (Yes, YOU can pretend that it isn’t, but everyone else can see it).
          You definitely had plenty-of-feigned-righteousness in the post that was quoted. Trying this type of obfuscation is pretty weak. It’s better to admit the fault. In fact, you have yet to acknowledge the clearly supported criticisms of your post.
          Hidden agendas?
          The fact that you have attempted to deflect attention from a complete lack of support in your assertions, coupled with this current attempt at pretending the criticism was levelled at a subsequent post of yours is proof enough. There is a distinct agenda to appear to be arriving at conclusions with an objective and academic approach, when it is clearly basing it on biased and emotional incentive.
          Deny this if you wish. Readers can judge the validity of this assessment on their own.
          Melymorg said:
          —On reflection stupid wasn’t an apt word to use. I find some of the comments disturbing.
          “you deserve to be raped” , amongst others.—
          ROFLMAO. There are a couple things wrong with what you say here.
          First of all, you were challenged to point out which comments (aside from the obvious purely “colour commentary”) were “stupid”. Instead of meeting this challenge you attempt to deflect from it by re-assessing the statements as “disturbing”. The problem is that the alleged statement occurred AFTER your initial assessment. Unless you have the incredible ability to predict future comments, this is nonsense.
          Secondly, one should quote comments exactly (especially, if you use quotations marks) if you choose to use them as support. There was no such assertion of “you deserve to be…”. The statement you referenced is “I hope you get…”. There are clearly different meanings here.
          Thirdly, it was already prefaced that “Aside from the limited number of personal jibes”, you had not pointed out just which supporting arguments in favour of Frost were “stupid”.
          Disturbing?
          Juvenile taunts are juvenile taunts. There are just as many if not more from anti-Frosters than from supporters. However, juvenile taunts are far less disturbing than cases where people exhibit evasive behaviour once their “logic” is exposed as pure fantasy built on emotions and personal bias. Basically, it is DENIAL. This denial can be a gateway into true delusion.
          Melymorg said:
          —I still believe in honesty , if the article in question was written by a woman my views would remain unchanged . I stand by my convictions.—
          Just where has anyone, much less have I, laid any emphasis on the gender of the author as a form of support in the concept? If I recall, I have referred to Frost as “Frost” and have not indicated the writer’s gender. It is irrelevant.
          Speaking of relevance. Finally, something of relevance to the topic! Honesty.
          The issue is not the virtue of honesty. It is the applicability of clarity and the level of precision that is influential. One can choose to be absolutely crystal clear and demonstrative. For example… It is “honest” to publicly declare the exact amount of money one has in their pocket as one strides through a bad part of town. However, it is probably not a wise decision. Discretion, and some embellishment of one’s defensive capabilities would be a better course. It is NAÏVE to believe that honesty, without consideration of the situation and environment, is the most effective policy.
          You may indeed stand by these convictions, but after many robberies, you may achieve some enlightenment (certainly some enlightenment of your cash).
          As POF is essentially the “bad part of town” in Online-date-ville, it would be better to arm and armour up… unless one enjoys being constantly robbed of their dignity.
          Melymorg said:
          —What if this approach is adopted and all is not what it seems . There is a connection , what then , how do you move forward based on lies.—
          A valid question.
          Welcome to the world that men live in. This is what they face on a regular basis. What is make-up if not embellishment? What is a padded and under-wired bra, if not an exaggeration (or an outright lie)? What is “best behaviour”, if not a cherry-picked persona? What is “curvy” if not a euphemism for “40+ extra pounds on a frame meant for 110 of them”?
          There is a connection, then the all the make-up and push-up and “act nice” goes away… how do you move forward based on these “lies”?
          The truth is that the “connection” shouldn’t be based on the superficial (you know… like “his height”, “his hair”, “his heritage”… the traits that Princesses adore). If anything it should be based on how he treats you, how he carries himself, how he does what he does, etc.. None of that goes away when the he isn’t quite 6 feet tall.
          The tactics here are to get in front of the woman. If SHE is worthy, and HE is worthy, then things move forward. It’s all about MEETING. Whether just for a shxg, or more, it’s all about getting the MEETING.
          POF princesses are their own worst enemy when they sit and wait for the perfect 10. Frost’s tactics may actually save some of them from their own stupidity. Essentially, Frost is doing men and women a “fcuking” favour.

        7. Dude you’ve got problems buddy. That must have taken you like at least 25 minutes to think out and write. You need a therapist my friend. You really do dislike women.

        8. No. It’s you that probably needs to get an increase on the medication (therapy may not be enough). How long it takes to write something is up to each person. You’ve been unable to argue you case so you just resort to trolling as a “guy” now.
          Most of the guys here totally love women. If they didn’t why would they go looking for methods to get more of them.
          On the other hand, those that resort to pestering when their “civilized” persona has flown off the handle… well they probably hate the women that have out-done them. Outside and now online too.

        9. grab a life loser. Stop stalking posters. Your not even a guy with this “dislike women” business. That’s just what those trolls lubany have been trying to sell. it more like you are one of them.

        10. Hey “Dude”, you spend too much time as a no-nothing troll. You’re the one with problems. You really are some person in denial that no therapist can help. You are definitely one of those feminist trolls just posting as Sam. None of the guys dislike women here. Stop making things up.

      2. Oh not so dear Brononymous…someone truly hurt you in your life time to harbour such anger towards women. I explored online dating for the first time in May…had I been familiar with this site and posting before hand , I would never have bothered, but I did. You never know when luck in the nicest way comes to you. I am now no longer on POF and wish I could forward this post to all women.
        I want to be angry with you but that serves no purpose. I feel sorry for you. I truly feel sorry for you. I could be angry with most men who connected with me but I’m not…I just can’t be angry with people who don’t know what they are doing.
        Oh for those who think they know, as in purpose it to get laid…well seriously if you considered another human being with feeling, you would be a better person…eventual your true colours shine through…are you happy with you???
        Such is life’s journey!
        Women beware and guys be fair.

        1. “Anger against women”?
          Brononymous was addressing the poorly constructed criticisms from individuals here. These individuals may be women, but they do not represent ALL women (as implied by your accusation).
          Bro’s comments are hardly a display of anger and are far from the outright hostility from those that oppose Frost’s prescribed tactics. In fact, his observations are quite apropos as any observer can agree upon inspection of Melymorg’s post.
          “I feel sorry”
          Such condescending overtones are unlikely to convince readers of any superiority in morals or aplomb. It’s just haughtiness (usually to conceal a complete lack of foundation in an argument.)
          “if you consider another human being with feeling”
          Is that not the very criticism of the princesses on POF? Choosing to selectively ignore the lack of consideration from them, while attempting to lay this on someone who has exhibited no such behaviour is, indeed, very much showing one’s true character.
          “Guys be fair”?
          How have “guys” not be fair?
          You’ll have to come up with a better argument than this.

        3. Certainly a lot less time than you spend as Lulany and now “Sam” to troll the site. Couldn’t argue your case so its now troll time. Good one.

        5. again, you are just a troll version of some feminist that couldn’t force her ideas on others here. Go spread your man-hating ideas somewhere else.

  20. This article is soooo dumb. Just proves that guys and girls who feel the need to go on a dating website are desperate idiots.

  22. What sad and sorrowful bullshit is this! Why don’t you find another hobby and leave the genuine ones alone that actually seek to meet a good decent ‘catch’. I can just imagine that you are the type us women with half a brain and decent have thrown back into the ‘fish pond’ because you are undersized …and your little weener could be mistaken for a teeny bit of uninteresting bait. (Chuckle) Cheers 🙂

    1. No. The sad bullsh1t is how delusional women on plenty-of-frauds think that everyone but them has to “play by the rules”. As Frost mentions, these women treat body-type like it is “body-type-sort-of-in-my-fantasy” yet demand men to be exact (down to the 1/2 inch). Not only that, they expect ONLY men of 8+ to even contact them. The others are apparently “wasting her time” (even though she is barely a 5 in any farmer’s scale).
      Genuine ones? Everyone is looking for a decent catch. This is just avoiding the observation that these delusional women think that they can catch a 10 with bait that can’t even really catch the 7’s they reject.
      Undersized? That’s more proof that delusional women mistake “height” to be the same as “mass”. Most guys under average height have torso’s about the same size as guys over average height. The difference is mainly in the length of the legs. This undersized excuse is just another rationalization that delusional women use. Also, unless she is particularly over-weight, guys (regardless of height) are usually more massive than the woman.
      Little Wiener? This is the typical projection of one’s own self-esteem issue on others. The delusional woman on Plenty-of-psycho’s think that everyone is as self-conscious of their body-image as they are. In reality, penis size is whatever it is, does not change, hovers around the average, and is really not “huge” on the must haves of normal women. Things like being fat, having a bad attitude, etc… these are all self-inflicted and apparently “impossible to change” in the mind of the hostile.
      Yes. A woman with “half a brain”. Everyone would agree with that. “Decent” women would have no worries about guys applying these methods, since they don’t need to rely on Plenty-of-Fives to get attention.
      Cheerio!

      1. you must have had a real problem finding someone on POF. I am a working professional with a good income, own my own home. Well travelled and fell head over heels in love with a man only 2 inches taller than me and starting to feel the effects of gravity as it will to all of us. He swept me off my feet then 5 months later dumped me because I can’t ride a bike. We are still friends and meet regularly for lunch or a drink. GET A LIFE GUYS

        1. Oscar Meyer had a real problem find someone on POF?
          What is this assertion based on considering there was no mention of personal experience. Rather, the response was to the absolute B.S. that “Gorgeous Gerty” had put out. What’s more, is that it’s pretty easy to find a consensus on Plenty-of-Freaks being full of trophy-hunting women who can’t find one in real life. Nice try.
          Speak of height.
          It was “Gorgeous Gerty” and other trolls here that referred to height. It’s quite easy to see the number of “must be tall” ads on Plenty-of-duds too. As a single example, whether you man was average height or not is neither here nor there.
          You may excuse the effects of gravity on age, but apparently many of delusional fish do not behave in this manner. A single exception does not negate a trend. The trend that most Pof princesses seek the stereotypical hunk is not refuted by this.
          A guy dumps you for something as innocuous as poor bike-man-ship? Right…
          Why are you so defensive of what Frost is preaching. There must be plenty of eligible men that don’t mind whether you can ride a bike or not regardless of the small percentage that elect to use his methods.
          Try coming up with a valid counterpoint. There is no need to suggest that people get a life as you have every opportunity to just surf on by if you don’t want to read this stuff.

        2. Oscar Meyer had a real problem find someone on POF?
          What is this assertion based on considering there was no mention of personal experience. Rather, the response was to the absolute B.S. that “Gorgeous Gerty” had put out. What’s more, is that it’s pretty easy to find a consensus on Plenty-of-Freaks being full of trophy-hunting women who can’t find one in real life. Nice try.
          Speak of height.
          It was “Gorgeous Gerty” and other trolls here that referred to height. It’s quite easy to see the number of “must be tall” ads on Plenty-of-duds too. As a single example, whether you man was average height or not is neither here nor there.
          You may excuse the effects of gravity on age, but apparently many of delusional fish do not behave in this manner. A single exception does not negate a trend. The trend that most Pof princesses seek the stereotypical hunk is not refuted by this.
          A guy dumps you for something as innocuous as poor bike-man-ship? Right…
          Why are you so defensive of what Frost is preaching. There must be plenty of eligible men that don’t mind whether you can ride a bike or not regardless of the small percentage that elect to use his methods.
          Try coming up with a valid counterpoint. There is no need to suggest that people get a life as you have every opportunity to just surf on by if you don’t want to read this stuff.

      2. you must have had a real problem finding someone on POF. I am a working professional with a good income, own my own home. Well travelled and fell head over heels in love with a man only 2 inches taller than me and starting to feel the effects of gravity as it will to all of us. He swept me off my feet then 5 months later dumped me because I can’t ride a bike. We are still friends and meet regularly for lunch or a drink. GET A LIFE GUYS

    2. Hey Gorgeous Gerty…I’m a woman too and i THINK WHEN WE REACT WITH ANGER IT ONLY KEEPS THIS CYCLE OF STRUGGLE BETWEEN THE motos GOING. bEST WE IGNORE THEM, OBSERVE AND LEARN AND JUST WARN THE SISTERHOOD…

      1. The best thing to observe and learn is to not to be a POF princess. If you want to do such an altruistic service for the sisterhood, tell as many as possible to use online dating for what it was intended to be.
        As a reminder, it was NOT intended to be used to collect messages without intention to reply as a means to boost one’s ego. It was not meant to be a shopping center for 8, 9 and 10 level men (because they are unlikely to be found online.)
        It’s intended to be a more accessible way to do the good old fashioned mingle and meet and see what happens. NONE of that takes place if 5’s are holding out for non-existent 10’s while ignoring 6’s and 7’s like they are not good enough.
        If you don’t want to get “played”, don’t try playing others. How hard is that?

        2. Lol. Where did I say I didn’t like pof? Where did I say I was on it? You really need to learn to read before you go a-trolling. “Sam”.

  23. YOU’RE THE BIGGEST ASSHOLE ON THE FUCKING PLANET !! But then again, MOST of you IDIOTS are assholes! We’re not ALL dumb blondes. You should be put away for life.

    1. Women should speak respectfully toward others. You sound like that masculine , fat ass type bitch with tattoos, who smokes. No thanks.

      1. You talk about how women should “speak respecfully of others” then you guys on this site talk about “how to fuck a bitch”. How do you make sense of that?

    2. Why the apparent ultra-hostility?
      It can’t be due to some sort of “duty to honesty” since the wholesale fraud that goes on Plenty-of-lies is mainly from women. We have all seen them. Examples are like:
      …”I’m open-minded” – yet never answers messages (unless your photo is that of a six-foot magazine model)
      …”looking for genuine connection” – yet answers to every ad of a six-foot magazine model regardless of the profile
      …”I’m all about what’s inside” – yet never answers to anyone under 5 foot 10.
      …”a few extra pounds” – yet few really translates to 55 pounds.
      …”looking for a funny, intelligent guy * ” – * guy must be a 6 foot magazine model.
      No. All this anger comes from the frustration of not being able to compete in the real world. These delusional women feel they OWN the internet dating world, and, that only they are allowed to play in the pond.
      Why worry about the guys applying these methods if you are above it?

      1. Dude! how do you know who’s messages she replies to? Are you hacking into these women’s accounts or something?LOL

        1. She was replying to this blog. Is it that hard to figure out “Lulani”, er… “Sam”? LOL.

  24. absolutely horrible .. I believe its the other way around.. every man I chat with is either a loser or a drunk… but its very entertaining.. the person or people who wrote this article are a perfect example of loser’s and drunks…

    1. $20 says the other 500 guys you ignored were NOT losers and drunks…but you wouldn’t know bout that.

  25. If you think women on POF will believe this crap you are seriously mistaken. I can tell a man’s height, weight and age just from glancing at one photograph and block and delete all liars. As for “its complicated” , that would totally alienate me. I have my pick of dates and enjoy POF but often for the hilarity value of the lies men tell that you recommend. Just take a risk and be yourself!

    1. “Just take a risk and be yourself”….that MIGHT get you one date for every 100 messages. Men can only kiss so much ass. I’d really like to see you in our shoes…

    2. “Just take a risk and be yourself”….that MIGHT get you one date for every 100 messages. Men can only kiss so much ass. I’d really like to see you in our shoes…

  26. hi guys hate to burst your bubble but you are talking a load of sh*t. i am a women and as many women on pof are using you too and if your photos are ugly none of the other tricks will help. and if your a tool that will shine through. and you will tangle your self up in lies. grow up just be upfront we are not in high school now are we 🙂

    1. Be upfront? If that worked men would do that. Stop giving shit advice sister.

  27. This guy who wrote this article is completely a stupid idiot … and he thinks and hope that men will beleive him… idiots like him- will…. normal gentlemen – not so much… and the only reason he is so vulnarable to express how stupid girls on POF are cuz he got screwed and declined every time … pathetic. Good that you never been outside NOrth America, you chimpanzee

    1. “The guy is completely a stupid idiot “? What evidence is this verdict based on? The only behavior that could be misconstrued this way would be his charity in revealing these useful tactics. However, that would be purposely misconstrued since unsolicited generosity to strangers should not be dismissed as foolishness.
      Other men (or women) don’t have to blindly believe him. They can apply the strategy and see for themselves whether it yields results beyond the more “honest” approach.
      “Normal gentlemen” can elect to apply the methods or not. However, not believing that a large proportion of the women that use dating sites behave like he has described (when it is clearly seen that they do) would be more akin to the foolishness you speak of.
      Getting screwed and declined every time may cause someone to lash out. However, since he has instead honed a counter to this resistance, and has experienced success in application, it is unlikely he is merely lashing out (or lashing out at all) when he describes the juvenile behavior of many women on POF.
      It is far more an example of “lashing out” when people respond by merely calling people names and throwing out insults (e.g. “idiots like him”, “got screwed and declined every time”, “you chimpanzee”). couple that with accusations that have no foundation and it is further evidence that this guy is absolutely on the mark about “maturity” of POF women in general.
      If one feels they are so superior to this “idiot”, why the anger? If thousands of guys are failing using these tactics that you feel no one will believe (let alone be successful with), why would it bother you?
      We await your ever-so-brilliant response.

      1. Unbelievable! At the end of the day, the odds of finding anyone online that you can take seriously is zilch! The interesting part of this scenario is the failure to mention the fact that the only men you will ever find on POF are ‘bottom of the barrel’ men…moral of this story. NO ONE WINS! Its just a ploy to get reactions from people, thus giving the publisher their 15 mins of fame. If you agree with this.. do the world a favour and don’t make another comment on this page. Nothing more than a rant.. no more or less than this one. WHO CARES..

        1. Nope.
          There are lots of decent guys on sites like Plenty of Fish. The problem is largely trophy hunting women that use the site in hopes of netting someone they can impress their girlfriends with.
          The typical angry trophy hunter will ATTEMPT to equate the experience to women to that of men (as if men are all as dysfunctional as the women). It clearly isn’t the case, but these weak attempts are the expected harassment of those that point it out.
          Who cares?
          Apparently those that take the effort in trying play down any valid points made here as “nothing more than a rant”. Lol.
          You pretend not to care. If you really didn’t, you have every opportunity to not read this publishers material or post a dismissive response… yet you do. However, you have little in the ability to prevent others from exploring this blog (or any other for that matter).
          If you have a valid point to make in counter, it would be far more helpful to your cause in getting others to stop viewing this topic.

  28. Lol!!!!!
    If you have to lie to get a date on plenty of fish….you really must be a loser!!
    Good of you to share though… Your intelligence is only out done by your class!!

    1. Men only have to lie on POF because most of the women there are so full of deceitfulness that they think everyone else is too. These women are usually 5’s looking for 10’s. Anything above that rarely (if ever) has resort to sitting around online to get attention.
      Think about it. Attractive women would be the last to be reading this blog about “how to get laid on plenty of freaks”. They are getting way too much attention just walking down the street. It’s only the delusional ones that resort to this in order to get attention (as in many solicitations that they hardly get outside).
      The online dating experience is lousy for “honest” men looking for “real” relationships mainly because the internet dating sites are filled with these women trying to catch a “10” by trying to appear as an “8+” (when they are usually below “5”). Any guy who isn’t a “8” or above (usually based on nothing more than looks and height) isn’t considered.
      Relative success using these tactics to exploit this is proof.
      If someone is resorting to name-calling and personal insults here, it is because they feel their little empire is being threatened (as in the empire of fantasy where the “worthy” attention they are getting online is as valid as what attractive women get in the real world).
      There are lots of “honest” men online. They just usually aren’t the “8+” in looks and height that these delusional women demand. If you are really looking for “honest” men, you would have found more than enough within a couple of months online…
      …but, only if you are honest with yourself and with others.

    2. You really, honest-to-god have no clue do you? Way to assume it’s the same for men as it is for you….good logic;)

  29. wow! The creater of this article is the definition of a douchebag!!!! You wonder why honest real men have a hardtime finding real women????? Its because of pathetic pricks like you that have nothing better to do than to mock, belittle women. You think the only accomplishment in life to bang as many women as possible. You should get real comfy with your left and right hand, cuz it would be a miracle that any women would ever buy into your bullshit

    1. …”The creator of this article is the definition of a douchebag?”…
      Really? He has correctly identified the behavior, suggested the underlying attitude that drives such behavior, and offers a guideline of tactics to help men gain some success in online dating… and he is a douchebag?
      No. He is not a douchebag.
      If anything, it is those that come here, offering NOTHING of substance in counter argument and, instead, consistently lace their responses with personal insults and childish name-calling who are more in line with the definition of “douchebag”.
      …”wonder why honest men have a hard time finding real women”…
      Honest (by any definition) or not, men will have a “hard time” finding “real” women on sites like POF.
      While truly worthy and realistically available women can and do exist in online dating, they are crowded out by the huge number of immature trophy hunters that swell the ranks. Swimming aside those are a host of passed-over angry man-haters and downright delusional denizens of the internet universe.
      Most eligible women are accessible in the outside world. You meet them all the time. They are walking on the street, at the office, at the mall, in the gym, at a party, at the library, etc. You don’t need to find them online.
      In general, men have not degraded the online dating world experience. It’s the delusional trophy hunting women who have.
      Now, they are just getting angry (well exhibited by the trolling and temper tantrums seen here under the thin disguise of a “reply”) that they don’t own their “hunting ground” as much as they like to believe they do. They are angered because their fantasy world where they can pick and choose “10”s is really more like the real world. Like this real world, All the 8-10’s are probably taken, they will be out-competed by any real 8+ for the remainder, they will have to accept that the remaining men do have options, and have to settle for battery-operated solutions when they are not that option.
      …”nothing better to do than to mock women”…
      Typical disambiguation. Notice that calling out the type that hangs out on sites like POF are now “ALL” women. No. The blogger has noted that POF women are generally like this. It doesn’t mean anywhere near the entire population of women are like this. This is just trying to “rally the team”.
      Besides if women in general were not so easily influenced by “perception” rather than reality… please feel free to explain how the fashion and cosmetic industries make megabuck$ off of (no surprise here) mainly WOMEN. Come on… we are waiting for your answer.
      He is not even remotely mocking or belittling them. Are you claiming that a large proportion of POF women DO NOT take serious liberties with body-type descriptions? Why not quote your dress size and measurements down to the inch (you expect that of men when it comes to height)? Many write down in their profile that they are “open minded”, yet will rarely respond to anyone who isn’t a literal magazine model.
      The behavior he attributes to POF women is easily seen. It is actually those who only “reply” with insults and name-calling that are mocking. Nice try.
      …” it would be a miracle that any women would ever buy into your bull”…
      Really? Then why is one apparently so hostile and obviously upset? If the POF women won’t be fooled by this, there is no cause for alarm. Yet there is…
      It can’t be due to a denigration of women in general. It has already been covered how the blogger has not done that. It can’t be due to any altruistic cause since, like many defenders of the POF deluded, there is a clear individualistic attitude noted. It can’t be because the author is really promote anything truly harmful (since the women who would buy into this are sentient adults that can make up their own minds).
      The only thing it can be is the realization that the fantasy of treating men like a simple online purchase is not how people should be approaching online dating (yet, POF and the like quickly became infested with trophy hunters). The two main factors are:
      One. If you can’t come up with the asking price (as in your own worth), it isn’t going to happen (Yes, if you are a 5, you are not attracting a 10).
      Two. Treating others like common goods was not the intent of online dating and is really self-defeating. (Yes, being disrespectful to others just because you can hide behind an internet connection breeds contempt and if discovered, is more telling of yourself than any fictional online profile).
      If you don’t think his methods work, feel free to respond as to why. If subsequent replies are more of the usual name-calling and mud-slinging, you will only prove his point.
      Perhaps that is a good thing, as it will likely convince more to adopt the tactics.

      1. I was a former nice guy chump. Was brainwashed into respecting women and let me tell you it gets you nowhere. Women are the gate keepers in relationships and dating, they are the selectors, so if they are picking superfical players, it is their fault, it is something innately wrong with them!

        1. I could not have put it better my self.
          As a hopefully soon to be free man, I can tell you that this is the honest truth.

  30. Right on, mate.
    Most of the women on POF bend the truth so much that they expect guys to be lying. Your tactics are giving the dreamers what they want to believe. Perception is reality.
    The angry responses are from those that see this truth, but don’t want to admit it they are the party to it.
    A thumbs up!

  31. god you’re dumber than the women you talk about on here. Coming from a woman, men, if you only want to get laid, go out on a friday night, buy a girl loads of drinks, give her compliments. It’s pretty much a sure thing in this day and age. So obviously looks are expected to be average on POF, if not horrendous, and if you’re drunk enough, who cares right? So what are you waiting for…..fill your pockets with saggy bags of averageness…then enjoy the std’s a few wks after 😀
    Def worth the effort writing this article though………
    #justsaying

  32. Well one thing I had a good laugh!!!!! Heavens you boys are most definitely fooling your selves! If the goal is to find a girl to have only sex with benefits then say it! But make sure you make it sound like fun and research what ladies want! Lots of kisses and foreplay, focus and ask what the lady likes, usually you can tell by there response. Hugs and cuddles after or your a goner!

  33. little boys and sweet shops!
    who ever wrote the above is a total w—– ! I am on of the ladies who have dated the stupid blokes who are shorter and ten years older than there picture ! what a total waste of time , do you think when meet you we will not see how many times you have been hit with the ugly stick!
    are your hints and tips for mindless pervs like you !lol
    a couple of text do the trick for me as your type are not to clever and forget the lies you tell brainless!
    There some decent people but we have to waste our time coming across insects like you !
    when you look at it your the lad person who has travelled and bought the drinks or meal ! laugh at that one ta ta for now x

    1. ROFLMAO.
      The fact that you admit to having met those that didn’t meet your “expectations” on height and age tell more about YOU than about the guys themselves.
      First off, you essentially equate “ugly” to height and age. This is typical of “trophy hunting” delusional POF princesses. They only want to be seen with guys that are average-or-above height. It’s not about the quality of the guy, it’s about impressing other women. The shortness is “ugly” because these princesses project their lack of self-esteem on how THEY themselves (not the shorter guy) measure up to their peers.
      If the picture was from 10 years ago, then it’s on par with the age of the snapshots most of the princesses use to fool men. The difference is that the men may have only put on 10 lbs, while the princess has put on 50. lol.
      All this “hating” is the hostility that boils up from women who cannot compete in the real world. They’ll come here to brag about how they can reject these guys one after another as if it makes them the same as true attractive women (who actually are not as “height” crazy as these out-competed ones).
      Think about it. What attractive woman would care about the tactics that guys are using to find the few worthy women in the online “herd”. It’s only the ones that are deluded in thinking that every guy who “appears” to be an 8+ is really an 8+. When these women find out the guy is actually a 7, she has a fit. Acting all upset somehow makes her feel like she is worthy of an 8+ (and forget that she is unable to compete with actual 8’s in the REAL world).
      Using these tactics, the guy is getting “a couple of texts” from other less-than-8’s too, so these angry ones are even getting out-competed in the online dating pool too. Hence even more anger.
      Decent people?
      There are actually crowds of decent guys online. Trophy hunters just think that anyone under average height is automatically “not decent”.
      LOL. The last gal I bought a meal and drinks for was AFTER the deed. She was an 8+… but then again, I didn’t meet her on Plenty-of-Angry-Cows.
      Use the methods here guys. Just remember to not bother when you detect mad cow disease. Moooooooo.

      1. And then she’ll turn around and say “I date for personality, not looks”…sad.

  34. Here’s my advice: Stay away from online sites and get laid the ol’ fashion way – At the bars…

  37. this site is complete nonsense and i would say without a doubt any so called MEN on here isnt capable of getting a woman in the real world else would have better things to do than leave bullsh*t on here i am a member of pof and wont be put off by such cr*p oops i meen carp lol hopefully one day you shag you wrong woman and get a nasty desease well we can but hope lol

    1. “decent woman”?
      Speaking of doubt…Any decent person (man or woman) would hardly make it their agenda to wish a terrible fate on others like getting a nasty disease (assuming that’s what “dEsease” was meant to be). There’s little decency and much more latent anger. You may not be “put off” by these methods, but it’s not all about you is it now?
      Men who can get women in the real world have many better things to do. However, one of those things for some is to call out trolls and bullies where ever they appear. They sure do appear on blogs that they don’t want others to read.
      The tactics are the usual ones: Come here, call it B.S. without any supporting reasons. Attack any that agree with the blog with insults such as suggesting that they must be losers.
      It’s good that you don’t have any real substance to your argument. It helps support this blog.

  38. what the hell is this crap? the author of this should be kicked in the nuts a dozen times. A-hole!!

    2. Believe it or not, it works far better than the ’50s approach to being a real man and having dignity and respect and honor. Girls are raised to be sluts and chase players, and the respectful men are left to debate which caliber round to put through their head. You want it to be different? MAKE IT DIFFERENT. But you won’t. You’ll continue to chase the “A-holes”, all the while complaining that they don’t care about you. I DARE YOU to prove me wrong.

  39. The author of this article will most likely find his soul mate on POF – someone mildly entertaining, unethical, manipulative and probably f**kable. Smart enough to write for a newsletter with affiliate advertising just to make a quick buck. Dumb enough to think people won’t get hurt by words like this, even the author himself (or herself). Reader, be you. You marry at your level of self esteem, so make sure you have some when you do.

    1. …kind, but POF princesses are not.
      There in lays the double-standard that defenders of POF w4m ads love to conveniently overlook.
      Where as the typical POF women will be manipulative and unethical in her “demands”, they are excused as “just putting out my list of must-haves”. While she is doing this, she will resort to seriously embellishing attributes that would not be expected in her “suggestion” that she is a great catch.
      These things include:
      – exaggerating body shape (often to the point of pure fantasy)
      – using old photos, close-ups or clever angles to support the fantasy.
      – pretends that things like “good heart” and “education” count when the reality is that abs, height and model-looks are all that really matter.
      – treating anyone she deems as unworthy with as little respect as one would have for last week’s garbage.
      When a guy suggests that men be even half as liberal with facts and figures as these POF trophy-hunters, you get this self-righteous protest that these men are now “unethical and manipulative”.
      POF women ask for the stars while offering a seriously inflated fantasy version of themselves in return. All this blogger is suggesting is that men present the stars with the same level of “creativity” that these women do.
      That means the the online world becomes just THAT MUCH MORE like the real world. Don’t expect absolute honesty if you are offering literally NONE. If you want honesty to the level you EXPECT from men, start with:
      – Full, recent body shot
      – Current Weight to within a pound
      – Current measurements
      – Face shot with no makeup (because make-up is embellishment)
      – Do not say “looking for real connection” when you are just looking for a hunk to impress your friends and enemies
      – If your “restrictions” are based on unchangeable traits that someone was born with, admit that you have a prejudice (because that is what it is)
      Once you have done that, THEN you can demand the kind of honesty you are expecting.
      People get hurt?
      It seems to not bother these princesses (and their selective cognition practice supporters here) that treating men with the disrespect (that’s what lying about one’s “open mind” and “looking for an honest person”) and prejudice (yes, that is what a height “restriction” is) is couched as “just laying down my rules”.
      That will NEVER be a negative experience to any guy who “plays by the rules” Getting ignored 97 times out of 100 times is so rewarding too, isn’t it? (Yes, that is SARCASM). Sorry, this plea to save the “feelings” of princesses will not gain any sympathy.
      If you really want to stop any feelings being “hurt” in online dating, start by NOT supporting the bad attitudes of POF delusional trophy hunters.
      Yes. It is true that many of them have low self-esteem. Perhaps these princesses should get help to correct that problem before coming online and spreading the dysfunction around with their arrogant “must have lists”.
      Princesses are just trying to get a trophy to compensate for that low self-esteem. It is not about kindness or love.

    2. “You marry at your level of self esteem.”
      Don’t marry. Fuck and chuck, plenty of fish in the sea.

  40. The author of the above crap is a narcissistic sociopath………but most of all he is a big fat misogynist who feels bad about himself because he hates his own mother

    1. …everyone’s got one. ^^^^ man-hating dike strikes again. dick-envy is so infuriating.

  41. LOL oh my goodness, straight men, you are hilarious. The fact that someone needs to tell you this… is beyond funny.
    Sadly for most of you, you won’t realize: you need to actually be all these things you lied about to get married – until you’re in your 40’s – and by then its too late.
    Nothing wrong with casual sex – but if you’re putting this much effort into faking shit to get laid instead of actually doing stuff to attract a long time mate you’re gonna be very lonely when you’re 50.

    1. Really? It is common knowledge among women that they inflate their profiles to the point of absurdity on Plenty-of-Pathos, AND expect that men do that too?
      No. Whereas people should strive to be the best that they can be, it is not why the typically honest guy is failing. Being a good catch isn’t the problem. There’s the a sly change in your mockery.
      A lot of the guys, as described honestly in their profiles on POF are marriage material. It’s because they don’t embellish it to the point where being a 6 or 7 is now a 9 or 10, that gets them nowhere. It’s because they aren’t the 6 foot and rich bad boy that doesn’t get them a response from the women on POF. That is what is being addressed here (and what you are conveniently glossing over).
      Being in your 40’s is too late for guys? No. Maybe for women, but there are many men that are still marriage material in their 40’s and beyond.
      The same “sh1t” that is “faked” to get laid is largely the same stuff used to attract a long term mate. Whether people want to go the extra step from one-night-stand to significant other and further to marriage is then up to BOTH parties. This is the shared “control” of the situation that delusional princesses fear. They no longer have ALL the say.
      Why do you think that hiding behind the relative safety of membership in POF is such a draw for 5’s acting like 9’s? You can get the attention but never have to risk the rejection by ignoring anyone you think is “beneath you”.
      Frost’s tactics put men somewhat back on more equal terms. That is why there is a huge amount of “hate” from the “You go girl!” Carrie Bradshaw wannabe crowd.
      LOL.

    2. How far society has come….once upon a time a woman selected a man based on how he treated her and made her feel and provided for her, now apparently……
      “you need to actually be all these things you lied about to get married….”, spoken like a true “open minded” woman on POF.
      Ain’t about love and respect anymore guys it’s about how much money you can pull and how tall and popular you are…..
      Makes me sick to be a straight man.

      1. I wouldn’t go as far as to say that it makes me sick to be a straight man, I mean the alternative is far worst.

      2. You fucking cunt, I hope you end up in jail someday, together with those other frustrated sociopaths who are not real men on this blog, and die in hell with your rotten personalities. Bunch of brainless pieces of shits. I bet real women won’t go for you.

        1. I apologize. My prescription for anti-psychotics ran out along with my D-batteries. The convenience shop at the detention center closes early so I can’t get replacements. I have no idea what real men are since it’s an all women’s prison.

        2. Whatever, troll. You probably are already in jail. The only guy that’s not a real man is “sam”. he is just an entitled feminist like you.

    4. Excellent point Kristin. The very fact that such comments as the ones by anonymous are allowed to be posted here speaks volumes on where we are. Personally, I’m not spending one more minute in this dark alley. I’d flag the rape comment before I leave but what’s the point. That is, other than proving my point further with the fact that my flag would be entirely ignored.

      1. Lulani said:
        >>>>>Excellent point Kristin. The very fact that such comments as the ones by anonymous are allowed to be posted here speaks volumes on where we are. Personally, I’m not spending one more minute in this dark alley. I’d flag the rape comment before I leave but what’s the point. That is, other than proving my point further with the fact that my flag would be entirely ignored.<<<<<
        Kristin’s post is merely an attempt to wish ill will on any who apply some of the marketing techniques that Frost suggests.
        She demonstrates a clear bias in that by default she accepts that princesses on POF can exaggerate attributes (or hide the ones that aren’t helping) to gain advantage, yet, admonishing men for taking the effort to do the same. It makes sense that you would agree with this double standard since the same level of selective acknowledgement has been applied by you. Readers (women and men) can easily find evidence of this in practically ALL of your posts.
        You claim you will not “spend one more minute in this dark alley”, yet the record shows (although in a day the actual time of posting will not be apparent) you did indeed continue to post. It is obvious that you have an agenda to harass those you cannot successfully best in civilized debate.

      2. Lulani said:
        >>>>>Excellent point Kristin. The very fact that such comments as the ones by anonymous are allowed to be posted here speaks volumes on where we are. Personally, I’m not spending one more minute in this dark alley. I’d flag the rape comment before I leave but what’s the point. That is, other than proving my point further with the fact that my flag would be entirely ignored.<<<<<
        Kristin’s post is merely an attempt to wish ill will on any who apply some of the marketing techniques that Frost suggests.
        She demonstrates a clear bias in that by default she accepts that princesses on POF can exaggerate attributes (or hide the ones that aren’t helping) to gain advantage, yet, admonishing men for taking the effort to do the same. It makes sense that you would agree with this double standard since the same level of selective acknowledgement has been applied by you. Readers (women and men) can easily find evidence of this in practically ALL of your posts.
        You claim you will not “spend one more minute in this dark alley”, yet the record shows (although in a day the actual time of posting will not be apparent) you did indeed continue to post. It is obvious that you have an agenda to harass those you cannot successfully best in civilized debate.

      3. Lulani said:
        >>>>>Excellent point Kristin. The very fact that such comments as the ones by anonymous are allowed to be posted here speaks volumes on where we are. Personally, I’m not spending one more minute in this dark alley. I’d flag the rape comment before I leave but what’s the point. That is, other than proving my point further with the fact that my flag would be entirely ignored.<<<<<
        Kristin’s post is merely an attempt to wish ill will on any who apply some of the marketing techniques that Frost suggests.
        She demonstrates a clear bias in that by default she accepts that princesses on POF can exaggerate attributes (or hide the ones that aren’t helping) to gain advantage, yet, admonishing men for taking the effort to do the same. It makes sense that you would agree with this double standard since the same level of selective acknowledgement has been applied by you. Readers (women and men) can easily find evidence of this in practically ALL of your posts.
        You claim you will not “spend one more minute in this dark alley”, yet the record shows (although in a day the actual time of posting will not be apparent) you did indeed continue to post. It is obvious that you have an agenda to harass those you cannot successfully best in civilized debate.

  42. dont think much of pof as i cant even get a reply never mind a date so you saying its a great site is false and what does it matter if ive never been abroad to a woman anyway whys that so important?

  43. havent got an angle that I play either as I’ve not had a long term girlfriend in my life I didnt have any in high school.or get any dates either I still havent taken a girl on a date yet as I dont have any girls that I know to ask. whys a guys height so important anyway? I’m a guy who just doesent know how ti chat girls up face to face as it’s all down to money,dont have that,looks,not the handsomest,and I’m unemployed with no prospecys of a good job not that it should have to matter what you work as I dont care what the girl works as why should they?

  44. And how does a guy know what kind of guy not to be if the short term girlfriends didnt tell me why they left me so if you dont find that out how do you know what guy not to be if you aint had no dating experience like I have. It’s a wee bit easier said than done to be a guy you dont want to be or have an angle to play can you be more specific on what “an angle to play” as i’ve never had an “angle to play” as I aint a guy that approaches women as I dont know what to say. no one gave me any advice on how to go about it,all girls did for me when I was younger was to put me down or try and make me miserable,so I can see why I got problems approaching/chatting up girls. cant read the replies at the bottom of the page properly as some grey/black bar is blocking half the text.

  45. Dear Frost,
    The hell with your condescending comments about “girls”.
    You obviously have very little, to no education, respect or knowledge about women.
    F.you!

  46. Dear Frost,
    The hell with your condescending comments about “girls”.
    You obviously have very little, to no education, respect or knowledge about women.
    F.you!

    1. It’s not about “ALL” girls. It’s about the delusional princesses that fill up sites like POF. Then again, you know this and are misrepresenting it as “ALL” so you can have something to criticize.
      Respect is for those who earn it. The way these delusional women act, they have earned nothing but the same contempt they have for honest guys.

  47. Dear Frost,
    The hell with your condescending comments about “girls”.
    You obviously have very little, to no education, respect or knowledge about women.
    F.you!

  48. what a load of BS!!! if all you want to get out of going on a date with a female is sex then wank off in the shower and leave these poor girls alone..geez women can spot a relationship retard a mile off.. and the ones that capitulate with your games are actually using YOU and your lack of experience as coffee break entertainment… ever thought of that?? return of kings???? return of idiots more like it..

    1. If they are using you, then where is the problem? As usual, there is no logic to rants like yours. Who cares about the thought of being used as “coffee break material” if you got what you wanted.
      Nice try.

    2. I forgot, men are worth nothing more than “coffee break entertainment”…I’ll make a note of that.

  49. So true man…I grew up with all the morals in the world, and just started realizing they’re my biggest enemy in dating. I like the way you put it…lie about everything, because even if she gets pissed and walks out, it’s better than never attracting her in the first place. It’s amazing the things a woman will overlook once she ACTUALLY BOTHERS TO GET TO KNOW YOU past all the “qualifications and tests designed to weed you out”.

    1. Why would a woman want to get to know you after you lie about everything? Would you want to get to know a woman if she lied about everything? These double standards guys.

      1. We do get to know them, in the biblical sense, to know a women in the only way worth knowing. Then we move on and find the next one.

        1. That’s why God said just have sex with your spouse so the world would not be filled with bitter and twisted people seeking out to use and degrade others.

      2. protip: women aren’t men.
        let their hamster fill in the void you leave by being mysterious.

      3. If she’s got nice boobs and/or backside, what comes out of her mouth is irrelevant.

        2. No. Sam is just one of the angry women with low self-esteem that pretends to be a guy to make up the usual false arguments.

      4. They probably won’t, but the key is to get laid first before she finds out you’re a liar.

      5. of course i agree with you. and this is something everyone needs to remember. I remember working at an office before, and the girls were grouping uptogether for the regular chick talk, and they were giving me shit for telling guys the real amount of men i’ve slept with. Those girls, as different as they were from eachother, still shared the same point of view, that there are some things you need to lie about, and only reveal the truth about it after it’s too late, (meaning they’ve been with the guy for many years, and he’ll take anything you give him lol). More importantly, they explained why they all did this, and I’m sure they’re not the only ones who feel this way. They said they lie in order to keep the mans respect. Crazy, right? They are worried that if the guy finds out the girl slept with more guys than she can name on 1 or 2 hands, than she’s not the good type of girl to bring home to mommy, and marry. And they scolded me for not agreeing with this lol they literally sat me down and explained: “”Bones” if you open your mouth and tell the truth about everything, no man will want to be serious with you.”…. like fk. Fk it. If i’m going to get naked with someone, they better be able to deal with my naked mind too, and see literally everything. I can’t be with someone who can’t even see me… like dam, that is a scary life to live, and if it is a social norm for many women to do this, obviously there will be other things for men to do that they find is socially acceptable and fair, when really it is just as fkn ridiculous. But hey.. people who think living like that is okay, deserve eachother! and i’m going to freak out every mother fkrs mind with my truth until i find the right one who can accept my flaws, and is down to help me on my journee to being a better person, instead of shoot me down and mock me. yeah, i think i’m strong enough to put up with all that bullshit, because at least it would be real and i can see who exactly is standing infront of me.

  50. what a complete numnut twat you are…and here was me thinking that prehistoric man had died out!! you are a complete moron who probably jerks off to your own picture and your own voice telling you what a sex god you are when in fact your a pathetic little man who probably has a small penis and a smaller brain!

    1. The humans inhabiting the earth before recorded history were essentially the same as modern man. They have not “died out”. There is doubt that an intolerance for “princess syndrome” was any different 10,000 years ago.
      What we are experiencing is how the sudden ability to be insulated from immediate and potentially harmful retribution has made many an internet diva. They love to hang out on sites like pof since it feeds the fantasy that they are as desirable as the peers that have outdone them in the real world.
      It’s denial that makes them describe themselves in clearly euphemistic terms in their fantasy view (aka “personal profile”). It’s a fragile ego that relies upon feeling good about collecting messages and never responding. It’s the realization that these observations are true that releases this hostility upon any who have identified this.
      Why else would someone end up on responding on this blog with no real argument and only childish name-calling?
      Please, demonstrate this some more!

  51. very clever…i leave a message about your small cock and you remove it because 1) its true and 2) you dont want people to realize what a bullshitter you are…if you want a shag then go on a site that you pay using your credit card…if you are old enough to have one that is!

    1. What proof have you of the relatively small stature of his rooster? How is the removal of purely personal attack an indicator of truth in the statement? If Frost’s commentary is B.S., can you provide some reasoning as to why? (since hostile rants do nothing but prove the ranter to have no case).
      Calling people names and making disparaging remarks about their private parts is far more evidence of immaturity than anything Frost has done.
      Please continue as it makes your case so compelling (…not)

  52. wow…ive just read some of the other comments your ‘readers’ have left…i say readers loosely as they probably only just about cope with colouring in pictures…what a bunch of imbeciles you are…i guess this is an american site as only guys from the usa would be dumb enough to post such stupid comments!! no wonder the world laughs at you…and you have the audacity to mock larger people on pof…this from the most obese fat headed nation in the world!!!

    1. Everyone is welcome to an opinion. You can label the comments “stupid” all you want. However, you provide no support as to how you have arrive at such a conclusion. As well, you attempt to relate your determination of these posters as “imbeciles” to a common nationality. This non sequitur “logic” is characteristic of those who harbour a lot of hostility and resentment.
      It likely shows that you are not happy with the current situation, and, that the tactics presented here will further erode that experience.
      Please. Demonstrate more of this. It helps prove to the readers that those who oppose what Frost have to say are truly only the “angry left overs”.

      1. And what does the fact that you allow comments such as “I hope you get raped” say about this site and it’s members?

        1. I am neither a site moderator, nor do I have any power or influence on the site owner. How it is a “fact” that I “allow” comments such as you say is beyond me. Please go and raise your concerns with the correct parties.
          All it says is that, like many of the pointless name-calling posts, the moderator has not seen that post or for whatever reason as decided it can stay put.

  53. lets see how long it takes you to read that before deleting my comments…which will prove my point!

    1. Prove what? Prove that you have no case, and instead resort to personal attack? You don’t need any help in proving that.

  54. as a woman I can say if you need to lie and you as a man have to hunt on POF your not a catch nor a player. your a fatty and loser just like the girls you hunt with lies, if your so special you dont need POF nor do you need lies. one lie to get laid and you have already deemed your self trash and you deserve the muck trash your bragging about having such luck with. its like shopping in a dumpster and who dives in trash? the grabage man. your not much to be such a giant lie, and legally to post to withhold “aids” that criminal and you should take that off your blog you idiot! Classy people do not use dating sites even to get laid. face to face and no lies if you need lies yourself your the same fish.. smelly and so need to be tossed back. so your advice is shitty and can land someone in deep shit.

    1. Wrong.
      Fortunately for all women, neither you nor the deluded 5’s on POF represent women in general.
      Men only need to inflate the truth on POF to get better results because the flaky fives on their think everyone is lying as much as they are. There are lots men on there that are good catches. It’s the phony fives that are delusional in thinking they can catch a 10 (let alone deserve even a 3).
      Fatties and losers? You describe the delusional women on POF. Most guys that have not that much trouble in the real world, get nowhere on POF. The fact that you ignore this even when many have talked about it here, is clear indication that you are part of the delusional crowd.
      Who is talking about withholding life threatening infection? That’s cherry-picking some hyperbole and purposely missing the point.
      Try honing some reading comprehension skills before tossing out the personal insults. It would add a lot more credibility to your argument than some typically grammatically challenged rant.

  55. I loved this article. Gentleman ignore these silly bitches comments. All they should get is hard dick and bubble gum. Excuse me let me retract my last sentence. Just hard dick.

    1. Just hard dick and bubble gum, Think about that very well, Your momma is a woman in your eyes I am sure a bitch that should only get hard dick and bubble gum. Way to go

    2. If you could keep it hard we would be so much happier … hence the dildo never goes soft.

      1. dildos don’t have to put up with yapping from women that just can’t understand basic logic either. You play games, so guys do too. How HARD is that to understand?

      3. I think you have it exactly backwards about who is responsible for “keeping it hard,” or rather for why it goes soft. It’s certainly not the one who is supposed to be receiving pleasure. I think you’re the one who’s not woman enough to hold a man’s sexual interest long enough to keep the damned thing hard; you’re too busy being self absorbed to be anything but totally horrible in the sack like so many.
        That’s the friggin problem. And If your dildo were a person, it too would deflate. It’s not the dildos fault that you that you have no idea what to do in bed but lay there like a limp rag. The fact that so many use those friggin things speaks volumes about how utterly boring they are. Can’t even get and hold a real man.

      4. It probably goes both ways. The obesity epidemic has led to a generation of women who simply cannot have intercourse. Yes, men are slacking due to general lethargy but women are actually not that far.

      5. If all you have is a BOB, you ain’t worth the time or the effort to get it HARD in the first place.

    3. The fact that you say hard twice mean you are as soft as a carvel ice cream cone. Any guy desperate enough to play games is well… Desperate , and oh we’ll… Losers

      1. Still with childish attempts to insult others? What joke. You have nothing to say and prove it time and time again. We can all see who the loser is… LOL.

    4. you know what when it come your turn to leave this earth dont let it be me who is the first one who throws dirt in your face

    5. Another sad lonely little being who does not realise that when his 50 years old his dick will be old and shrivelled with no one wanting to use it. At this point you will have wished you treated women differently because you will be old and alone…. But guess what it will be too late for you then….. All alone

      1. Another sad lonely fat 25 y.o. girl named Sherrie. One day you will realize you need not be fat because you will be old and alone…. But guess what it will be too late for you then….. All alone

        2. You sir are a loser with a small pecker . how do I know you ask???? Because you are affended by her coment

      2. I know a 50 years old who is not shriveled. And he’s more fun that some younger ones. Just sayin’
        😉

        1. Neither you nor Sherrie have anything real to add but another attempt to blame men for the bad attitudes of delusional women on Plenty-of-Waste.
          “Just Sayin’”

        2. Those who tend to eat healthy, get plenty of sleep, and exercise tend to be fit even past 50 years of age. This myth of shriving up has a lot to do with a population that is dysfunctional in terms of health. It goes beyond the obesity crisis which will bankrupt nations, but even the “slimmer”, Cola-consuming-can’t-do-a-single-push-up population.
          No need to be ageist, people.

      3. Not really. With how many people that get divorces these days and the wide age gap that it happens in, there is bound to be an abundant amount of single women for every age group. Plus women become much more desperate after 40 and the guy could probably be physicaly deformed and still juggle three women…. But we all know that would be a stupid move if your John Henry doesn’t work.

      4. Well said Sherrie, that is exactly what’s going to happen to these men, I’m on pof, but I have not yet met any man yet that I would meet in person, one fool wanted to meet me in a parking lot, lol shot him down , another one can only meet on weekdays, this tells me he’s married, and so on, I’m thinking about deleting my account

  56. I really hope some of the guys on here are joking…. Please, I don’t want to lose my faith in humanity. I want to believe there are some great guys and gals out there just looking for love and monogamy

      1. Again, why sooo angry. Elizabeth just wrote something very nice and you just spit on it by saying she’s a single mom, (which you just made up). Are all you guys on this site like 16. Stop making the rest of us men look like no brained idiots. Is this how you’re going to treat the mother of your children?

    2. Elizabeth, it seems we’ve ventured into a gloried macho boy’s club so don’t expect any degree of objectivity or sensibility here. Just notice how all the comments by women are voted down and the ones by men voted up regardless of their validity. Basically, a bunch of frustrated guys who are tired of being rejected and intent on vilifying women. Hang in there. I know there are decent men out there. Just not here. (Now watch the number of down votes and snark remarks this gets if it’s not deleted altogether before you even get the chance to read it. ;))

      1. Lulany Said:
        >>>>>Elizabeth, it seems we’ve ventured into a gloried macho boy’s club so don’t expect any degree of objectivity or sensibility here.<<<<>>>>Just notice how all the comments by women are voted down and the ones by men voted up regardless of their validity.<<<<>>>>Basically, a bunch of frustrated guys who are tired of being rejected and intent on vilifying women.<<<<>>>>Hang in there. I know there are decent men out there. Just not here. (Now watch the number of down votes and snark remarks this gets<<<<>>>>;)<<<<<
        Do you have something in your eye? (Does that qualify as a “snark remark”?) Lol.

  57. LOL….That article was well written and very humorous. I literally was laughing out loud when I read the part about a few extra pounds and the pulleys! I like the point you make about there being no Geneva convention in the online dating world and that this is war!
    Very well written and interesting to read.
    Cheers mate

  58. The sheer amount of asspain present here tells me that the author’s approach is right on the mark.

  59. Well all I can say is if this article is meant to be exclusively humorous then it definitely succeeds. However, if it’s intentions are to be taken literally it draws a very sad portrait indeed of the male genre.
    You know, POF does have an “intimate encounter” option so why not just be upfront about it instead of trying to deceive? And for the record, guys are equally guilty of lying about their weight. I can’t even count the number of times I’ve seen a male profile mention “a few extra pounds” when the picture clearly says obese.

    1. According to Lulany:
      >>>>>Well all I can say is if this article is meant to be exclusively humorous then it definitely succeeds. However, if it’s intentions are to be taken literally it draws a very sad portrait indeed of the male genre.<<<<>>>>You know, POF does have an “intimate encounter” option so why not just be upfront about it instead of trying to deceive?<<<<>>>>And for the record, guys are equally guilty of lying about their weight. I can’t even count the number of times I’ve seen a male profile mention “a few extra pounds” when the picture clearly says obese.<<<<<
      Equally guilty? “Fat chance”.
      You are conveniently omitting the fact that there are no “land-locked cetacean” or “Mass estimated by remote sensing” categories. They chose the radio button that was closest. It’s as accurate as it gets within the given system. That is all.
      There is ONLY the category of “a few extra pounds” to choose from for those carrying a great deal of body fat. The other grouping of “Big and Tall” would work if you were only one and not the other. Then critics would be saying “I can’t even count the number of times I’ve seen a male profile saying “Big and Tall” when they were only “Big”. Lol.
      Your reasoning is invalid.
      On the other end of the scale, delusional women on POF will choose “average” when they are “a few extra pounds”. That would be convenient inaccuracy. What you do touch upon is that the weight category is specifically built to cater to women. The euphemisms are nebulous and subjective so that one doesn’t have to admit to being effectively obese. Why not have weight to the nearest pound (like how height is to the nearest inch). Better yet, how about standard measurements of hips, waist, chest, etc. within an inch? Why is there no requirement of a clear, well-lit, full body shot? While there, a facial photograph without makeup should be a mandatory submission.
      None of those aids in determining the shape of an individual is there because POF yields to delusional women that want to be as vague about themselves as possible (while expecting men to be described as accurately as a product in an online retail store).
      Perhaps what you can suggest to Plenty-of-Fives is a section for “Delusional Princesses Demanding 10’s”. That way the typical online “super model” can put their ad up there since they are SO honest. The 15 women who aren’t princesses can then be free from guys who allegedly think that “ALL” women are delusional princesses. Well… how well would that work?

      1. Wow, that is a lot of anger and bitterness for one person. I can only imagine the kind of experiences you must have had with women to feel the need to respond with such vitriol. I can’t speak for the entire female gender and certainly not for all the women on POF but I’m also objective enough to understand that there are faults on both sides. Sadly, that doesn’t seem to be the case with you as you seem adamant about blaming every conceivable flaw on the women. For the record, my picture on the site is without make up because I like to be honest and don’t personally see the point of creating false expectations or impressions. I try to be as honest as i can in my profile, keep my expectations in check and always take the time to respond to every message I get with kindness even if I don’t feel that we are a match. I don’t know what the choices are for men on the site as far as weight goes but if it’s between Big and Tall and a few extra pounds then you have a valid point. To be fair however, I think it’s fair for women (and men) to describe themselves as average if they are not heavy but not thin because that does represent the average population (especially beyond the thirties). Anyway, I get the feeling there is nothing I can say that will make you change your views because they seem pretty deep set but all I can say is that speaking for myself I don’t expect or even want a rich guy or a stud with a six pack. Just a decent honest guy who happens to be my type would be nice. And my type is in no way close to an Adonis in case you’re wondering. I’m sure you have a point about some women on POF but believe me it’s not rosy on the other side either and people who advocate lying, cheating and deceiving to get to their ends are not going to help the situation. This type of behavior only encourages a vicious circle that make everyone wary of each other and eager to point the finger at who’s behavior is most reprehensible. The best anyone can do is try and be a decent human being and hope that they will be fortunate enough to get treated equally.

        1. Lulany said:
          >>>>>Wow, that is a lot of anger and bitterness for one person. I can only imagine the kind of experiences you must have had with women to feel the need to respond with such vitriol.<<<<>>>>I can’t speak for the entire female gender and certainly not for all the women on POF but I’m also objective enough to understand that there are faults on both sides.<<<<>>>>Sadly, that doesn’t seem to be the case with you as you seem adamant about blaming every conceivable flaw on the women.<<<<>>>>For the record, my picture on the site is without make up because I like to be honest and don’t personally see the point of creating false expectations of impressions. I try to be as honest as i can in my profile, keep my expectations in check and always take the time to respond to every message I get with kindness even if I don’t feel that we are a match.<<<<>>>>I don’t know what the choices are for men on the site as far as weight goes but if it’s between Big and Tall and a few extra pounds then you have a valid point. To be fair however, I think it’s fair for women (and men) to describe themselves as average if they are not heavy but not thin because that does represent the average population (especially beyond the thirties)<<<<>>>>Anyway, I get the feeling there is nothing I can say that will make you change your views because they seem pretty deep set<<<<>>>>…but all I can say is that speaking for myself I don’t expect or even want a rich guy or a stud with a six pack. Just a decent honest guy who happens to be my type would be nice. And my type is in no way close to an Adonis in case you’re wondering. I’m sure you have a point about some women on POF but believe me it’s not rosy on the other side either and people who advocate lying, cheating and deceiving to get to their ends are not going to help the situation.<<<<>>>>This type of behavior only encourages a vicious circle that make everyone wary of each other and eager to point the finger at who’s behavior is most reprehensible. The best anyone can do is try and be a decent human being and hope that they will be fortunate enough to get treated equally.<<<<<
          No. There is no contest as to which group (cough, cough, Princesses) that acts most reprehensibly. It’s only their defenders that want to create this notion that there is any doubt in this.
          It’s the lack of dedication by POF in eliminating this type of “trophy hunting” and “message collecting to build ego” that encourages more women to behave this way. Most of the guys here note that being the typical “honest guy chump” gets about 2 to 3 responses for every 100 carefully written to be entertaining emails. You advocate that adhering to this low yield and highly demeaning endeavour will somehow stop princesses from being behaving as princesses.
          That is beyond naïve.
          All the transparency and dedication to precision on a cereal box doesn’t sell any more cereal when the consumer is only motivated by “you are cool if you eat this brand” (or even more aptly, “if your peers see you eating this brand”). It’s a game of marketing. That doesn’t mean your “cereal” is any less decent if it has a flashier-than-before box. You’ll just sell a lot more with it than without it.
          It’s that or have them create the “Delusional Princesses Demanding 10’s” section….

        2. You clearly have a lot of time on your hands and a lot of people here you wish to impress, Lem. I don’t. So let me keep it short. I came here to give my opinion in simple terms like normal people do. I don’t feel that I have to write a thesis on the matter as apparently you do. I’m sure that whatever I say you’ll find some way of making my arguments seem trivial just as you would have managed to discredit me altogether for not responding at all which I frankly was tempted to do. So let me save us both some precious time here and say that I have no horse in this race. I don’t have any reputation to uphold on this site and it really doesn’t matter to me that you don’t share my opinion. Feel free to twist my words as you will. Just don’t expect me to take the bate. All the best.

        3. Lulani said:
          >>>>>You clearly have a lot of time on your hands and a lot of people here you wish to impress, Lem. I don’t. So let me keep it short.<<<<>>>>I came here to give my opinion in simple terms like normal people do. I don’t feel that I have to write a thesis on the matter as apparently you do.<<<<>>>>I’m sure that whatever I say you’ll find some way of making my arguments seem trivial just as you would have managed to discredit me altogether for not responding at all which I frankly was tempted to do.<<<<>>>>So let me save us both some precious time here and say that I have no horse in this race. I don’t have any reputation to uphold on this site and it really doesn’t matter to me that you don’t share my opinion.<<<<>>>>Feel free to twist my words as you will. Just don’t expect me to take the bate. All the best.<<<<<
          As before, I have neither twisted nor made any attempt to twist your words. In contrast, you have misrepresented others (including direct quotation) in order to create a false refutation. This is recorded here on this response thread. You can deny it all you want but the paper trail is there for all to see.
          Take the “bait”?
          Where have I baited you? I asked only for you to answer questions in regards to your arguments. This too has a clear record for all to see.
          The best is yet to come. I am sure we all offer you the same good tidings you offer us.

        4. I don’t have time to waste reading your psychobabble so please don’t bother replying to any other of my posts of which this will be the last. The fact that you accept comments here calling women cunts and wishing for them to get raped is all anyone (male or female) needs to assess the character of the men here so your pseudo civility neither fools nor impresses me.

        5. Lulany said:
          >>>>>I don’t have time to waste reading your psychobabble so please don’t bother replying to any other of my posts of which this will be the last.<<<<>>>>The fact that you accept comments here calling women cunts and wishing for them to get raped is all anyone (male or female) needs to assess the character of the men here so your pseudo civility neither fools nor impresses me.<<<<<
          This is a whole new level of dysfunction.
          Please indicate where and when I have accepted, or implied to have accepted, these comments you claim that I have. The truth is that you cannot, because it has not occurred.
          You have now resorted to purely false accusations (and of a completely repugnant nature) in a desperate attempt to vilify your opposition. Not only has your opposition stuck to the topic regardless of your attempts to derail the conversation into a mud-slinging match, you have been afforded far more politeness than you obviously deserve.
          However, you have yet to bring anyone down to your level. I do not think any of the readers here will disagree in your complete self-assassination of your character.
          Propaganda is a common tool used in attempts to rally the troops (“Stand behind me, sisters! They are attacking us!”). What these false accusations rely on is that others are also so blinded by latent hostility that they will not even realize the claim is a lie.
          Furthermore, one should consider that the contemptible comments are actually quite lopsided with the bulk of them coming from those who oppose Frost. In fact, most of the anti-Frost replies are consist of denigration and contain little in the way of developed arguments. As another has put it, the amount of “asspain” here tells all of us that Frost is pretty much correct in his assessments.
          Again, neither I nor likely anyone else, is here to impress YOU. This article contains tactical instructions for those who wish to gain more success on POF. The civility that you note is the conduct befitting of what a replier does in addressing the topic. It is not there to “fool” YOU or anyone else.

        6. Look, you obviously have a lot of time on your hands. I don’t so frankly, I stopped reading thoroughly a while ago. I read the conclusion hear in the hopes of finalizing this because I keep getting these long replies in my inbox and I don’t want to change my settings because I do want to keep getting replies from other websites I visit. As I’ve said I haven’t read a lot of the replies because they are endless. I skimmed through parts of some and skipped others but the main Idea I think you’re trying to convey is that you are mainly referring to what you call “POF princesses”. I have no doubt that some women on POF are behaving badly as are some men whether you are willing to admit this or not. I also realize that this is what this blog is about which I didn’t originally having stumbled upon it with a Google search. Had I known what the blog and website in general were about, I never would have posted here in the first place. So let me just conclude that I’m very sorry that so many women treat guys so badly on POF or anywhere else. It must be pretty bad for men here to feel the need to lash out as they do. I still strongly believe however that decent men would not allow some of the comments on here such as the one saying the woman should be raped. Such statements should be condemned in every possible way either through the moderator or through protests to the moderator if this is not in your immediate control. At the very least, comments should have been made on this site stating clearly that such statements have no place anywhere as it would have been on any other respectable blog or website. Failing to do so in my opinion diminishes every post and writer here. But the bottom line is, I’m not interested in pursuing this conversation further. I know you will likely respond to this again because it seems you feel adamant about having the last word but if you must, please make it the last as I believe we both have said what we needed to say and I would very much like to conclude this chapter and stop being inundated with messages from this site.
          Kind regards

        7. I stumbled upon this site lulany and made a few comments also .I agree that comments such as “I hope you get raped” , “shut the fuck up” should be condemned in every possible way. I have noticed there has been no such condemnation from the male posters. These comments are not juvenile taunts , it is intimidating for any female wishing to post here.
          I’ve scrutinised Frost’s blog , having scanned over it the first time , I took exception to ” The girls are pre-selected for some combination of stupidity, desperation and sluttiness.” but parts of it are hilarious . I will continue to be honest on POF , hopefully if a guy contacts me he will be honest .. The proof will be in the pudding if/when when we meet !!!!!.
          Best of luck ……

        8. I wish I could have replied to you without posting here Melymorg because I know that by doing so I risk being flooded again with endless negative comments by blog regulars but I wanted to thank you for your reply. Looks like we just stumbled on the wrong website to have an open and objective discussion. I have no problems taking responsibility for that but what I find ridiculous is that some commentators here are actually trying to deny the very obvious bias. There is no doubt that a responsible and respectable site would never stand for some of the comments written on this blog and no matter what anyone here says there is no excuse for not condemning them. I wish you best of luck on POF (God knows we need it ;)) and praise you for not giving up on your values and principles.

        9. lol. talking to yourself again? lulany posts where melymorg left off and vice versa. this is too obvious as you both are shilling the same exact story. You even provide a back story to make it sound like you are different posters.

        10. Wow, you seriously need to get a life. I post here again only to ask to be left alone because it seems men here have nothing better to do than write novels in response to simple to-the-point posts and now it’s a conspiracy theory?? I hate to break it to you but other people in this world have better things to do than concoct such ridiculous plans if it even made any sense whatsoever to begin with. Honestly, why would anyone want to get that much attention from such a ridiculous blog? Please do me a favor and stop responding to any past messages of mine and tell your minions to do the same. I can’t wait to forget i was ever here in the first place.

        11. For christ sake , I’m tempted to give you my email address to prove a point , my name is Melanie . Lulany I believe we are being trolled , there is a certain style of writing with a poster on here. He is posting under different names ……

        12. I wouldn’t be surprised, Melanie. What a nightmare this place is. I wish I could write to you privately or at the very least deactivate the emails I get with Discus but I don’t think it’s possible to single out one blog you don’t want to hear from.

        13. its pretty obvious who the trolls are. how both post conveniently within minutes. lol. who’s next, Sam?
          you seem to be spending a lot of time here while accusing others of the it.
          edit: er, I mean troll not trolls.

        14. Tell you what Einstein: Why don’t you ask that nice moderator of yours, you know the one who thinks telling women they’re cunts and should be raped is perfectly acceptable, why don’t you make a request for him to check the emails, heck even IP addresses if possible since Melanie and I are probably not even form the same country. Of course, I don’t expect you to share the outcome on this post but at least you’ll have a good reason to leave us alone. As for the time I spend here in case you haven’t noticed lately it’s been trying to stop the emails I’m getting from Discus because I get a copy of every reply in my inbox. What’s your excuse since as far as I know, I’ve never even addressed you.

        16. yep. But hes not talking to himself to make it look like more users. big difference. I notice too that only a few of the original melymorg posts have melymorg now. This one is now from ..guest.. lol.
          yep. The original mely is a different woman. the current one… not so much. busted.

        17. Dont have to be Einstein. All someone has to do is to read your posts and see the same old thing you are harping about. Same country or not, this Melymorg has suddenly disappeared. hmmm.. interesting. You could probably send the email to your junk based on the subject line or just not read it. theres a thought. I didn’t know I needed to be addressed by you to reply. What’s your excuse for posting here? It’s not like the original poster was addressing you either. What? is it a double standard for you? lol. go troll somewhere else.

        18. I have never addressed you and yet you keep harassing me. I am defending myself. You have no excuse other than being a little troll who has nothing better to do than stir up trouble. So, too cowardly to take me up on my offer then huh? Guess it’s much easier not to know than risk losing face. You must be one sad little loser. And a paranoid one at that. Don’t bother responding as I will either unsubscribe or make a rule for these messages to go directly in my junk mail where they belong.

        19. That where you are wrong , my latter posts came up as a guest because I un suscribed . I have now had to post under my name to put the record straight. Proof I’m on POF UK., take a look. I’m a real WOMAN…….
          Lulany didn’t want to leave you to the wolves. I’ve changed my settings on POF give me a bell …….

        20. Lulany said:
          >>>>>Look, you obviously have a lot of time on your hands.<<<<>>>>I don’t so frankly, I stopped reading thoroughly a while ago. I read the conclusion hear in the hopes of finalizing this because I keep getting these long replies in my inbox and I don’t want to change my settings because I do want to keep getting replies from other websites I visit.<<<<>>>>As I’ve said I haven’t read a lot of the replies because they are endless. I skimmed through parts of some and skipped others but the main Idea I think you’re trying to convey is that you are mainly referring to what you call “POF princesses”.<<<<>>>>I have no doubt that some women on POF are behaving badly as are some men whether you are willing to admit this or not.<<<<>>>>I also realize that this is what this blog is about which I didn’t originally having stumbled upon it with a Google search. Had I known what the blog and website in general were about, I never would have posted here in the first place.<<<<>“Well all I can say is if this article is meant to be exclusively humorous then it definitely succeeds. However, if it’s intentions are to be taken literally it draws a very sad portrait indeed of the male genre.”<>>>>So let me just conclude that I’m very sorry that so many women treat guys so badly on POF or anywhere else. It must be pretty bad for men here to feel the need to lash out as they do.<<<<>>>>I still strongly believe however that decent men would not allow some of the comments on here such as the one saying the woman should be raped. Such statements should be condemned in every possible way either through the moderator or through protests to the moderator if this is not in your immediate control.<<<<>>>>At the very least, comments should have been made on this site stating clearly that such statements have no place anywhere as it would have been on any other respectable blog or website. Failing to do so in my opinion diminishes every post and writer here.<<<<>>>>But the bottom line is, I’m not interested in pursuing this conversation further. I know you will likely respond to this again because it seems you feel adamant about having the last word<<<<>>>>but if you must, please make it the last as I believe we both have said what we needed to say and I would very much like to conclude this chapter and stop being inundated with messages from this site.<<<<>>>Kind regards<<<<
          As always, all your kind regards times two in reciprocation.

        21. Lulany said:
          >>>>>Look, you obviously have a lot of time on your hands.<<<<>>>>I don’t so frankly, I stopped reading thoroughly a while ago. I read the conclusion hear in the hopes of finalizing this because I keep getting these long replies in my inbox and I don’t want to change my settings because I do want to keep getting replies from other websites I visit.<<<<>>>>As I’ve said I haven’t read a lot of the replies because they are endless. I skimmed through parts of some and skipped others but the main Idea I think you’re trying to convey is that you are mainly referring to what you call “POF princesses”.<<<<>>>>I have no doubt that some women on POF are behaving badly as are some men whether you are willing to admit this or not.<<<<>>>>I also realize that this is what this blog is about which I didn’t originally having stumbled upon it with a Google search. Had I known what the blog and website in general were about, I never would have posted here in the first place.<<<<>“Well all I can say is if this article is meant to be exclusively humorous then it definitely succeeds. However, if it’s intentions are to be taken literally it draws a very sad portrait indeed of the male genre.”<>>>>So let me just conclude that I’m very sorry that so many women treat guys so badly on POF or anywhere else. It must be pretty bad for men here to feel the need to lash out as they do.<<<<>>>>I still strongly believe however that decent men would not allow some of the comments on here such as the one saying the woman should be raped. Such statements should be condemned in every possible way either through the moderator or through protests to the moderator if this is not in your immediate control.<<<<>>>>At the very least, comments should have been made on this site stating clearly that such statements have no place anywhere as it would have been on any other respectable blog or website. Failing to do so in my opinion diminishes every post and writer here.<<<<>>>>But the bottom line is, I’m not interested in pursuing this conversation further. I know you will likely respond to this again because it seems you feel adamant about having the last word<<<<>>>>but if you must, please make it the last as I believe we both have said what we needed to say and I would very much like to conclude this chapter and stop being inundated with messages from this site.<<<<>>>Kind regards<<<<
          As always, all your kind regards times two in reciprocation.

        22. Lulany said:
          >>>>>I wish I could have replied to you without posting here Melymorg because I know that by doing so I risk being flooded again with endless negative comments by blog regulars but I wanted to thank you for your reply.<<<<>>>>Looks like we just stumbled on the wrong website to have an open and objective discussion. I have no problems taking responsibility for that but what I find ridiculous is that some commentators here are actually trying to deny the very obvious bias.<<<<>>>>There is no doubt that a responsible and respectable site would never stand for some of the comments written on this blog and no matter what anyone here says there is no excuse for not condemning them. I wish you best of luck on POF (God knows we need it ;)) and praise you for not giving up on your values and principles.<<<<<
          Derogatory comments should not be allowed either way. That includes calling people names and insulting them (let’s all be honest on who has done that), but a lot times it would remove the flow of the thread. Moderators sometimes put in a comment, although, it is all a matter of how much time people wish to spend on patrolling a site.
          Feel free to contact the site managers. There is a way to do this through Discus.

        23. Lulany Said:
          >>>>>Wow, you seriously need to get a life. I post here again only to ask to be left alone because it seems men here have nothing better to do than write novels in response to simple to-the-point posts and now it’s a conspiracy theory??<<<<>>>>I hate to break it to you but other people in this world have better things to do than concoct such ridiculous plans if it even made any sense whatsoever to begin with. Honestly, why would anyone want to get that much attention from such a ridiculous blog?<<<<>>>>Please do me a favor and stop responding to any past messages of mine and tell your minions to do the same. I can’t wait to forget I was ever here.<<<<<
          You wish others to comply with your wishes by levelling insults at them? We know this doesn’t work in real life, much less that on the Internet. Seriously, if you really want to forget that you were ever here… just leave. Neither I, nor anyone else (with the exception of the moderator) can remove you from this site.
          Here’s something to help you (even though you are unlikely to see it that way, it is intended to help you)…
          Be objective. Yes. Be objective. Have a look at what you have been complaining about in perspective to all the other insults pointed at Frost and practically everyone else that you disagree with. Have a look at what the typical “honest” guy has to face when people do not perceive to have any consequence for being rude and self-serving. Have a look at how quickly you resort to calling others names and insulting them the moment you encounter resistance. All of this is within your control, yet you feel that others should not strike out if they are provoked.
          When you can see that, the anger residing within you (and you needn’t admit that to me, or here, or to anyone but yourself) can be released in a far more constructive way. You have an issue with the moderation? Petition the moderator. You don’t think Frost’s methods are right. Explain why. If others have explained to you how your foundations are faulty. Absorb it. Not reading it is just a form of denial.
          When you come here (or any other forum for that matter) be willing to actually listen instead of calling everyone who disagrees with you “biased and not objective”.

        24. Lulany Said:
          >>>>>Tell you what Einstein: Why don’t you ask that nice moderator of yours, you know the one who thinks telling women they’re cunts and should be raped is perfectly acceptable, why don’t you make a request for him to check the emails, heck even IP addresses if possible since Melanie and I are probably not even form the same country.<<<<>>>>Of course, I don’t expect you to share the outcome on this post but at least you’ll have a good reason to leave us alone. As for the time I spend here in case you haven’t noticed lately it’s been trying to stop the emails I’m getting from Discus because I get a copy of every reply in my inbox. What’s your excuse since as far as I know, I’ve never even addressed you.<<<<<
          Oh please. If you really want to stop the emails (and I can understand how ignoring them is all that hard) you’d just not post. If you want to be left alone, a good start would be to maintain a civilized demeanour (having a high tension trigger and calling people names the moment they disagree with you is hardly demonstrating a desire to be left alone)
          As far as “never even addressed you”, how is that any different from any who choose to respond to Frost (especially those who’s first response is a paragraph of derision)? People do have the right to respond to remarks (and especially if they find fault with them). You of all people should recognize that.

        25. Lulany Said:
          >>>>>Tell you what Einstein: Why don’t you ask that nice moderator of yours, you know the one who thinks telling women they’re cunts and should be raped is perfectly acceptable, why don’t you make a request for him to check the emails, heck even IP addresses if possible since Melanie and I are probably not even form the same country.<<<<>>>>Of course, I don’t expect you to share the outcome on this post but at least you’ll have a good reason to leave us alone. As for the time I spend here in case you haven’t noticed lately it’s been trying to stop the emails I’m getting from Discus because I get a copy of every reply in my inbox. What’s your excuse since as far as I know, I’ve never even addressed you.<<<<<
          Oh please. If you really want to stop the emails (and I can understand how ignoring them is all that hard) you’d just not post. If you want to be left alone, a good start would be to maintain a civilized demeanour (having a high tension trigger and calling people names the moment they disagree with you is hardly demonstrating a desire to be left alone)
          As far as “never even addressed you”, how is that any different from any who choose to respond to Frost (especially those who’s first response is a paragraph of derision)? People do have the right to respond to remarks (and especially if they find fault with them). You of all people should recognize that.

        26. Lulany Said:
          >>>>>Tell you what Einstein: Why don’t you ask that nice moderator of yours, you know the one who thinks telling women they’re cunts and should be raped is perfectly acceptable, why don’t you make a request for him to check the emails, heck even IP addresses if possible since Melanie and I are probably not even form the same country.<<<<>>>>Of course, I don’t expect you to share the outcome on this post but at least you’ll have a good reason to leave us alone. As for the time I spend here in case you haven’t noticed lately it’s been trying to stop the emails I’m getting from Discus because I get a copy of every reply in my inbox. What’s your excuse since as far as I know, I’ve never even addressed you.<<<<<
          Oh please. If you really want to stop the emails (and I can understand how ignoring them is all that hard) you’d just not post. If you want to be left alone, a good start would be to maintain a civilized demeanour (having a high tension trigger and calling people names the moment they disagree with you is hardly demonstrating a desire to be left alone)
          As far as “never even addressed you”, how is that any different from any who choose to respond to Frost (especially those who’s first response is a paragraph of derision)? People do have the right to respond to remarks (and especially if they find fault with them). You of all people should recognize that.

        27. Get real. You got called out for trolling and that is that. I asked you a simple question: What’s YOUR excuse to posting up your cow dung especially after you’ve already been shown how stupid your ideas are. Your not the only person in the world allowed to respond although YOU think so. Your ask is ridiculous and you know it. Lose face??? It looks like you’ve been PWNED over and over again. Look in the mirror. What face??? All you do is call people losers when you can’t win an argument. Then you go and create this Sam guy to post up a bunch of support for you. That’s damn pathetic even for a troll.

        28. You forgot to mention that the “cunt” comment was in a reply to a comment about the writer having a small “cock”. who is biased now?

  60. So funny how you can tell the posts of men from those of women here just by looking at the votes. All female comments are voted down and all male up (except for the odd female vote). It just shows how there is 0 objectivity and total bias. Unless anyone is willing to argue that all female comments just happen to be bad while all male ones are somehow great which in itself would prove the pint just as effectively. Ok, ready, set, vote down. Unless you just want to tell me I’m a cunt or I deserve to be raped which works equally well here it seems.

    1. A remarkably familiar guest said:
      >>>>>So funny how you can tell the posts of men from those of women here just by looking at the votes. All female comments are voted down and all male up (except for the odd female vote).<<<<>>>>It just shows how there is 0 objectivity and total bias. Unless anyone is willing to argue that all female comments just happen to be bad while all male ones are somehow great which in itself would prove the pint just as effectively.<<<<>>>>Ok, ready, set, vote down. Unless you just want to tell me I’m a cunt or I deserve to be raped which works equally well here it seems.<<<<<
      Just admit that you have no foundation to your argument. Putting words like these into the mouths of your opposition doesn’t change that fact.
      Usually what is next is a retreat to trolling. This will sometimes be as a member likely to be in the opposition (a male in this case) who will curiously be in support of this biased view. It will be pretty easy to detect as it will involve the same false claims (like, “all women”, or “you have been hurt by a woman”, etc…) In all, this is proof that there are some extremely hostile individuals who need to believe that their way of thinking is the ONLY way of thinking. If anyone shows that their “opinions” are incorrect these individuals will lash out aggressively in hopes to bully opposing view from being posted.

    2. …”Unless anyone is willing to argue that all female comments just happen to be bad while all male ones are somehow great”…
      That HAS been EXACTLY the case. The case for Frost has been argued qutie successfully. The case against?… well ranting and raving is not an argument. Practically ALL the female comments have been just some angry rant or calling others some bad name. The one’s that pretend to look reasonable quickly go into the same angry rant and cussing once they are exposed.
      It is you that has ZERO objectivity and TOTAL bias.

  61. I used POF, never slept with anyone, commented when they lied about their height, didn’t lie about my body type, and am above average intelligence..that is why I don’t use it anymore..after talking to roughly 400 liars I happily walked away..One more loser commented on my body type or bra size and I may have vomited.

  64. Dear FROST, I find your name apropos; you must have a frosty
    bed, relationships and life. I feel sorry for you and your followers. Real men
    don’t need to be so crude and liars to get action. Women, whether looking for a
    relationship or just an encounter are attracted to men confident enough to get
    what they want without all the subterfuge you suggest. It is in the way they
    walk, posture, command of voice. These are traits you can’t “lie” your way
    around and are recognized by both men and women immediately. Perhaps if you and
    your fellow wannabe’s work on careers, hobbies, life in general, you won’t need
    to make believe, you will grow up to be real men whom actually attract real women.
    Of course, if just any female body in your bed will do, then continue on your
    path. SIDENOTE- You may have to use a dictionary to look up unfamiliar words.
    FYI -wikipedia is not
    a real dictionary.
    Yours truly, an indisputable woman

  65. Cool, finally someone talks about internet dating as it really is. Great article. And who the hell are all these ass kissers on here? Get a grip dude. No one on here hates women, rather we have evolved to a state where we no longer need the validation of women, a great place to be I might add. However, we still like to get laid. So in a sense, because we don’t need a woman’s validation, we are able to give her validation, which she desperately desires but can’t get from the chumps she meets. Learn some things, bro. You’re skwabling, ranting, and raving is really just ass kissing. I’m not saying that you need to be an ass-hole to women, just saying that you need to get a life. When you understand this then you will evolve, as have I….and others that have posted on this site. Good day to you sir.

  66. Funny stuff but there’s def. some truth to it– it will come down to looks and finding a girl that DTF and not looking for a relationship. Just like in “real” life.

  67. All you sad guys commenting positively about this stupid blog are obviously too ugly or don’t have enough personality to get sex the regular way! Pretty tragic that you need to resort to these measures you saddos. Why not go on a sex site or pay for it? I hope no one ever treats your female relatives like this you losers.

    1. All the sad women only coming here to call guys here too ugly and without personality are just really talking about themselves. Why else would you happen to be here. Loser. There’s more truth to this than you want to admit. People only have to resort to measures because of the attitude they come across online. My female relatives don’t get treated like this because they never had to become sad little drama queens online.

      2. No kidding. Who ARE these women that come here to tell everyone they are losers. lol.

    2. Why should I have to pay for it just because ive been unlucky with women? Im not a player or nothing just seems like females aint prepared to give me a chance because of my inexperience.cant undderstand why ththats a bad thing being inexperienced. Cant learn if u. dont get an education in the first place and women complaain theres nodecent guys out there! Self fullfillin prophecy!

  69. Clearly you have never been in love or had your cock sucked the way you fantasize about. If you’d had you’d understand that there are women out there who use the site as entertainment, a playground. You are the reason I’m not meeting good worthy lays lately.

    1. Got to wait your turn now I see. A players job is never done. Learn the Frost ways guys and help out Mac Donald. See if she can suck the way you want it.

  70. What an idiot you are to write something like this….because for every woman, or girl that you call stupid, or lacking in something that would be desirable by a true man, there is a man out there who meets the same standards…..does that mean that they dont want or need love too. not the kind you just find in a liars bed, but in the real world full of caring good and kind people…..go to a bar if you have the confidence to get laid there. if you have to go to a dating sight and lie to get laid you already have a problem. Why would you encourage men to be liars, seems they already are. Many women are looking to get laid and will do so in a minute and may use this sight to find just that. But you must be the devil himself. Telling men to lie, most of them can do that on their own without your help. hope you are in bed right now reading this over some slutty girls ass that just wanted to get laid and read your article and turned it around and played you instead….the game works both ways……just dont let innocent people who are looking to meet someone get played or hurt. you just dont know whats behinds everyones feelings or what they are going thru…..dont push them over the edge….better yet, jump off the edge of a cliff yourself,,,,as you will get played by the girl that is out for a revenge fuck for the guy that fucked her over….jumping maybe the easier way out….bang your dead….a scorned womman doesnt always just walk out the door with tears in her eyes…..sometimes she turns around and takes aim thru those tears…..men be careful who you mess with women arent going to take it anymore…..and guess what they dont have too…its on the news daily…..pay attention, Id say read the paper, but if theres any truth in what you read youll just become bored as you usually do with anything that may carry some thruth to it or make you use your brain other than on how to gte over on someone..my suggestion….go to OZ…hes giving out HEARTS, BRAINS, and COURAGE to be real men!

  71. What an idiot you are to write something like this….because for every woman, or girl that you call stupid, or lacking in something that would be desirable by a true man, there is a man out there who meets the same standards…..does that mean that they dont want or need love too. not the kind you just find in a liars bed, but in the real world full of caring good and kind people…..go to a bar if you have the confidence to get laid there. if you have to go to a dating sight and lie to get laid you already have a problem. Why would you encourage men to be liars, seems they already are. Many women are looking to get laid and will do so in a minute and may use this sight to find just that. But you must be the devil himself. Telling men to lie, most of them can do that on their own without your help. hope you are in bed right now reading this over some slutty girls ass that just wanted to get laid and read your article and turned it around and played you instead….the game works both ways……just dont let innocent people who are looking to meet someone get played or hurt. you just dont know whats behinds everyones feelings or what they are going thru…..dont push them over the edge….better yet, jump off the edge of a cliff yourself,,,,as you will get played by the girl that is out for a revenge fuck for the guy that fucked her over….jumping maybe the easier way out….bang your dead….a scorned womman doesnt always just walk out the door with tears in her eyes…..sometimes she turns around and takes aim thru those tears…..men be careful who you mess with women arent going to take it anymore…..and guess what they dont have too…its on the news daily…..pay attention, Id say read the paper, but if theres any truth in what you read youll just become bored as you usually do with anything that may carry some thruth to it or make you use your brain… other than on how to get over on someone..my suggestion….go to OZ…hes giving out HEARTS, BRAINS, and COURAGE to be real men!

  72. What a twat! Some of us are real, u gonna punish us too for whatever shit you’ve been through!
    Be a man grow up n grow a pair! One day u will want to settle down then it’ll happen to u and you’ll fall big time!
    You’re just a very weak man/boy who thinks its clever, what u dont even realise is it’s men like u that make the women u keep meeting the way they r in the first place.

    1. No. No one MADE the delusional princesses on POF delusional but themselves. If you don’t want to get played, learn to seek out the “good and honest” guys instead of seeing only 6 foot, 6-pack types as the only types that are “worthy” of a princesses attention.
      If you are calling people names and laying insults, it says a lot more about you than about the guy you are flipping out at.

  73. In a word….disheartening. I am a lady who has been on POF and have met many lovely and credible men on the site. I believe in the universal law of attraction….obviously this type of man will attract the same type in the form of a woman into his life. These types of people do not truly detest the opposite sex, nor anyone else for that matter. They only detest themselves and rightfully so as one cannot possibly love themselves in a soulful manner while being a liar and a cheat. This individual lives his life in emptiness and entices others into the same miserable place. NOTHING will convince me otherwise. On the other hand….one cannot help but feel real sadness toward them, having to face themselves in the mirror every day. I only hope for their own sake, at some point in their lives they are saved from themselves and their own personal torment.

    1. lol. No one is out there to convince YOU of anything. Believe all you want about “personal torment”, but I don’t think any player is “tormented”.

    2. Man that plenty of fish is pure garbage. Ive been on it almost a year and been lucky to get any replies never mind a fucking date! You are saying here do a bit lifting thats not goin to get instant results ive been single since ..i cant remember. U are saying put some picture up with your one friend who has a thousand pound camera. I dont have a friend with a one thousand pounds worth of camera. Even when im tryin to put pics up on the site say the pixels are too small etc so i been stuck with the same pics from last year. Its a shit site and I dont know what to say anyway as my usual approach doesent work as the women are too picky i say hi and get no replies. I dont have a so called angle to play either when im out. Ive never had a long term gf myself. Why women find that a problem i dont know why coz if a guy doesnt get a chance he wont learn. Im stuck in a circle cant break it. Any female advice would help if its too much to ask..well it usually is.

  74. i will just be very happy to meet a woman that is educated, instead of uneducated these days.

  75. Lol, please … the arrogance of this author is astounding. I would be shocked if some men actually fell for this, erm, advice, considering how most men – no matter how ‘stunning’ they may appear, rarely receive a response at all. And I can guarantee that any man who claimed to be 6’0 when he was in fact 5’6 would be caught out. If you want to catch the hard-core truth about this website from BOTH points of view, read this:
    http://skyespitfire.wordpress.com/2012/06/15/the-truth-about-plenty-of-fish/
    Far more accurate in the fact that it states that men and women are equally stupid, rather than this post claiming all the woman are one-braincelled whores.

    1. It’s not a contest of who’s more stupid. The women on plenty of psychos just end up getting inflated ego’s and hold out hoping for some really hot guy they will never find there.
      The guys are either noobs that think the women are honest (yes, people, add 25-50 lbs), or, they are players. Players might actually get some action. Which would you rather be? That is all.

  76. You make it really bad for women who want to find something real, as if it isnt dificult enough to sort through the web of bullshit now your saying that they should become even greater liars.. frost think about things you have wrote. Think about it like once said before what if it is your daughter or mother, sister, aunt, grandmother and or even a cousin.

    1. Get real. You can find lots of honest guys on POF regardless of how many players there are. REally hard. B.S.

  77. Markus is an idiot and a fucking racist. Deletes my profile and a bunch of my friends and block for no reason, just because we black guys? Grow the fuck up dick head

    1. Makes sense. That Plenty-of-Psychos is just filled with fakes and frauds. The guy is just out to make money. It’s not about getting people together.

  78. This article is appalling. What a disgusting attitude to have. Not every woman on POF is as described.

    1. Awww… you don’t like this attitude. Well a lot of guys don’t like the holier-than-thou attitude of most of Plentyoffish females. A lot more of the guys on there don’t use the stuff in this article. What is your problem? Only women can play?

  79. This guy is an idiot, and he’s the stupid slut, not the girls on POF. Lol! I’m sure this theory has not worked! Fucktard! Lol!!

    1. No, the girls on POF are the self-over-rating idiots. Why would any girl even mildly attractive have to go online to get attention. I’m sure the theory works. Tardslut. LOL.

  80. You do know that is what is good for the goose is also good for the gander? What makes you think that women don’t do the same things only we are not like men that have to be told what to do. That is why God made Eve!!!!

    1. You got it backwards babycuda. It’s women that have been trying to be the player online. This just makes them realize that guys know enough to do it right back. Then these women all blow a gasket like men shouldn’t be allowed to or something. Those dating websites didn’t start off with this kind to dishonesty in mind. Women just act this way when there is no policing. Just like how they respond on threads. Don’t have a real answer? Just call everyone a loser. lol.

  81. This article is so HONEST!!!!!
    Your comments and findings come from the heart and minds of so many guys
    So refreshing to know there are truly honest males out there!!!!!
    Lets bait up and have another cast………

  82. lie about AIDS? wtf? ummm anyone who does that is a total sick asshole. this article sucks

  83. ~This post is funny in the context’s of your own opinion and mind and those who think likewise… you are indeed wordy and have a degree of wit..well done…As for me a pof user of past and once again considering it.. I do not own any of the labels you spout i.e “slutty, desperate”….I find “water finds it’s own level” in life and even on dating sites…i go in with an open mind and “half glass mentality”…I leave the bitterness and stereotyping to others such as yourself…I will give you the acknowledgement that it has indeed got some of the folk’s you caricature in your post but if you are self aware and have a degree of insight into potential motives of others despite what they represent outwardly, then i say all’s good. POF and all other dating sites should be taken with a large “pinch of salt”… but many happy, equal, loving relationship have indeed been formed from a meeting on there, including nice dates, sharing friendships etc but no one has to convince you of that, no one has to be defensive..Your article just smacks of “closed mindedness” , generalisations and “smart arse” comments i feel; so you do not resonate in my physique. lol

    1. Wordy? That’s just a lightly veiled dismissal. Who cares how many words it takes to get a point across.
      All your post is doing is trying to downplay the main point that POF is MOSTLY delusional women. As part of that DELUSION, they way overrate themselves so they expect guys way over their own true level of attractiveness.
      While there would be some relationships happening from meeting on sites like POF, it is far, far, far less than the usual experience of what the guys are saying here.
      Closed mindedness? Do these women who pretend to be so noble actually read their responses? This continued DENIAL that online dating has largely been ruined by the “I’m-hotter-than-most so I deserve an equally hot guy” delusion is closed mindedness. What this article talks about, as in understanding what it takes to win in such an environment, is not.
      Whether it personally resonates or not does NOT affect what the bulk of the women on POF do. Since MOST of the women behave this way, the article is appropriate as are the comments.

    1. hopefully, you will have something to say that isn’t based on imagining what the guys height and feelings are.

  87. You obviously don’t have a mother, sister, daughter nor female friends. But you did have a bastard for a role model, dad perhaps? And, how noble of you to pass along your disregard for truth, compassion and positive contribution to society. Be careful…karma is a bitch.

  88. You obviously don’t have a mother, sister, daughter nor female friends. But you did have a bastard for a role model, dad perhaps? And, how noble of you to pass along your disregard for truth, compassion and positive contribution to society. Be careful…karma is a bitch.

    1. You obviously don’t read since this whole “all women” thing is not true. Frost is just talking about the ones that are fives looking for tens on POF. How noble of you to disregard this in order to promote the same old wrong criticism. Personal attacks instead of a real issue? Lol. Karma isn’t the bitch here.

      1. Not sure i see where the ‘5’s looking for 10’s ‘ comes into play but does it really matter? Is it still appropriate to lie to get laid? And, what kind of loser needs to lie to get laid.

        1. …Not sure where the fives looking for tens come into play?… Really? You haven’t noticed any of the numerous posts about how a lot of the ads on POF are from women thinking they are way hotter than they really? Lol.
          …Does it really matter?… Does it matter if sellers are jacking up the price in a seller’s market? You do the math (or pretend that you don’t get it).
          …Is it still appropriate to lie to get laid?… Why do women wear makeup? It’s as much an embellishment as any “lie”. POF allows really vague descriptions for women, but expects exact ones from guys. It’s always easy to claim the moral high ground when one isn’t put to the task of exact figures. Women would be as guilty of “lies” if they were expected to give exact measurements.
          It’s the “art of the sale” so creative marketing is a way to get results (aren’t push-up bras a form of creative marketing?)
          …What kind of loser needs to lie to get laid… In real life there’s a lot less creativity required. In the dysfunctional world of POF, unless you are actually a 9 or a 10, you better apply some game if you want to get any.
          Aside from just being a way to put others down, it doesn’t mean someone is a loser in having a slicker approach. It would be like saying, “what kind of loser has to start lower with an initial offer on buy a house? Why not just quote exactly what your upper limit is”.

  89. The profile stuff is spot on. Travel pics, subtlety and get to the point and so far I’m nailing it.Good pics = top 10% of dickhead population. decent women on this site a very few and far between though. God damn if I see another profile that blags on about a Euro trip… or a selfie slideshow!!! Frost I owe you a beer.

  90. Clearly this dude is short, ugly, fat, jobless, no car, or pos and you guessed it, blames his daddy for his little dick.
    I’ve heard my share of complaints from women I’ve met from online dating, about guys who are nothing like they appeared to be in their profile.
    Morons like you don’t get laid. Who the fuck are you kidding loser.
    Randy

    1. Clearly you have no valid remark since that’s just a personal attack. So what if some women say the guys online are nothing like their profile. Even players are closer to the truth than most of the delusional women on dating sites like plenty-of-waste.
      How would you know if the guy gets laid or not. Having game is having game. It works way better in the real world and that’s probably where he’s getting laid.

  91. No wonder I can’t find a quality guy… Just look at you. Pathetic. Go buy yourselves some books, talk to your mommas and learn something about women.

    1. Just look at women who have to resort to looking for attention online… delusional. Go outside. Meet real people. Stop thinking you’re “all that” and learn something about humility.

  92. Not all good-looking women are on POF to actually find men–There seems to be quite a few women who are using that (free) site to just play games with men. The women who are really looking for SEX are going to use Craigslist or Backpage–but beware, since women really looking for SEX are prostitutes (escorts)–whereas they will ask for a “donation” or “roses”. POF is a free-site though and worth a try–just expect some disappointment also!

  93. Skeptical for first few sentences…then it hit me; this guy is a genius. No judgments, no moralizing, no bullshit…just a fucking genius.

  94. Most trendy-women nowadays are prissy, arrogant c**ts who “want a perfect man”–and then end up dumping him to only hang-out with lesbian girlfriends… I guess ‘Frost’ is correct— it is perfectly okay to LIE your ass-off to someone who is going to manipulate you somehow, anyway! POF is full of women who think they are “special” or “wonderful”—Don’t fall for their s***!

    1. Just an emotional response likely based on personal anger and hostility, Cassandra. The insights here are quite accurate.

  96. Would like to say that although some women (me!) are honest about our looks, what we do etc, we women are also playing the numbers, (its a self esteem thing for us) so really, we remember the picture, but we’ve forgotten your name, face, age, where you live……. So as long as you keep feeding the lines, the fake interest we’ll respond! (btw, that’s also how i managed to get a bf and date him for 3 years now, (and more to come hopefully!) post is anom for a reason!

  97. this post and the comments below are irrefutable (that is right, go ahead and *try* to refute it morons) evidence that the male of the species are fucking morons! the world does not need men and would be a much better place without them and their dicks for heads!!! get your dicks out of your heads you god damn fucking morons!!! jesus fucking christ. i wish had superpowers so i could take your brains out of your dicks. morons.

    1. Just the usual emotional response from a woman that can’t even get attention online. You wish men were moronic enough to consider you.

  98. When I brought up the idea to some people of using a free dating-site called “plentyoffish”, the guys would laugh really hard! One of the dudes asked me “does that mean all of the women on that site smell like fish?” At any rate, it is a dumb name for a dating-site!

  99. I don’t often comment on these but your particular “rant”, I could not let slide. You obviously have no respect for women at all and that stems from their lack of respect for you which is still your burden; I assume you speak such nonsense to compensate for your 2? 3? inch penis. Many women on POF (including myself) are not “sluts” nor money grabbers. I’m a professional and guarantee I make more in a day then you make in a week ‘little penis’. Some of us in the real world look to online simply due to the demands of our day to day life. I wouldn’t be surprised if you were 1) a virgin, 2) fat and 3) short, given your huge investment in your post. Get a life dude…and post a real picture of yourself 😛

    1. Just putting out the personal insults instead of coming up with some valid points. You must be compensating for being overweight and generally unattractive. Your day to day life is so busy but you can find time to be a blog about how men can get more responses on plenty of fives? Fat chance. It sounds more like you don’t like how even online is not working for you. Get a life.

    2. It’s funny how immature women think that making fun of the size of a man’s penis has any effect. That, and the comment about being short. Height is extra-important only to childish women that think a few percent difference in it matters. 20% different in weight? Yes. But people CAN control that.

  100. I actually found this post rather fascinating; as it shows that, in their own way, the male player is as insecure as his ‘victim,’ if you want to call it that. The other-persona that takes the place of the imperfect self. While the player is ‘hunting’ insecure prey, his actions actually reveal his own insecurities or personal self-doubts. Really fascinating, but I do hope the men understand that there are plenty of women who play this game as well as they do.
    But, really, it was rather interesting to see the lengths some people will go to. I wonder if they couldn’t simply have a ‘Singles with Benefits’ sort of site, but then I suppose the game would be lost, and I imagine that’s most of the fun. Really, it’s a huge power trip. A power trip for the man (or woman), who builds himself up like an over-inflated marshmallow, only to deflate if he meets someone with the intuition to question his motives; but then, of course, there is a new game. Almost like a game within a game, if you’re into that kind of thing. It’s all sort of interesting, and makes you wonder if it wouldn’t be worth a psychological study. It practically turns a date into a game of mental chess, unless you really are with a dim-wit.
    I’m actually kind of glad you posted this, it was good mental stimulation; not to mention an excellent piece for over-protective fathers to show their daughters.

    1. lol. That’s just rationalizing.
      The male player is as insecure? It doesn’t say that at all. That’s like saying someone is insecure for carrying an umbrella. You carry one because it rains. You apply game because the targets are elusive (and elusive because they are too high on themselves). All you are trying to do is to place a personal expense (of being “insecure”) onto any who apply game.
      The “lengths people go to” is whatever it takes to get to a connection. Even if “they” had “singles with benefits” sites, it will become the same thing if delusional attitudes are allowed to persist.
      The “power-trip” not the guys. Stop projecting what the typical deluded woman on Plenty of Fives does. The game is all about scoring. That is all. The delusional women on the other hand are all about stroking their egos.
      All this hyperbole into psychology is just an attempt to avoid these obvious truths. Delusional women don’t play this game well at all. Every can tell a close-up face shot is to hide an extra-hefty body. The usual stories and lines are exactly that. Collecting messages to stroke your ego is ultimately an empty pursuit. If a woman was so worthy, she wouldn’t have to resort to places like Plenty of Fives.

  101. This is pathetic. If you guys had confidence, you wouldn’t need to lie nor dating websites. Dating websites arn’t too bad but to rely and lie on on them? C’mon! Anyway, regardless if you’re angry at this comment or not, look up SimplePickup on YouTube. It’ll change your lives when it comes to girls.

    1. How is it pathetic??
      No one is relying on dating websites and this blog isn’t telling anyone to. Having confidence works in the real world. It has little effect on the wacky world of the internet. That’s just a backhanded way of saying that using game means you don’t have confidence (which isn’t true).
      Sellers stretch the truth when buyers are kicking tires. It’s the nature of bartering. Bashers here love to put down players while ignoring how women online over estimate their own worth.
      Dating websites aren’t too bad?? That’s about as untrue as it gets. Plenty of Fakers is about as bad as it gets. It’s well known, and pretending that it’s “just those who are not confident” is just shilling that useless site.
      Having game works in the real world, and, unless you are an actual 10, it’s what you need to get any success on Plentyoffish. Of course, why anyone would bother when it’s just easier to go outside and cast your fishing pole is the question.

  102. For the record most guys on pof are fugly ugly and I’m sure any male who has to read an article like this to get more sex is just another one. Some of us women can afford to be choosy. It’s the Pareto principle at work again. 80% of the men want 20% of the women and we of the 20% get good at playing your stupid games

    1. Another day, the same old lame attempt to label anyone who applies game as a loser.
      Most guys are fugly on Pof? No. That’s just an excuse. It’s regular guys, some creeps and practically zero of the 10’s that delusional women on their think will contact them.
      The Pareto Principle is more 20% having 80% of the influence or behaviour (and not the other way around). Even so, it isn’t supported. MOST of the women on POF are the delusional type. Women who are reasonable attractive get enough attention in day-to-day life so they won’t be found there. It’s DELUSIONAL to think that one 20% of the women on POF are anywhere above 7. Dream on.
      Good at playing the game? These delusional women don’t even know that all this collect-messages-and-ignore to build up a weak self-esteem has a negative affect on ultimately finding a connection. When you kid yourself that you are hot, you don’t actually correct the behaviours that keep you from really being that. So go on and keep fooling yourself that you are “good” at playing stupid games.

    1. Most women like to hear things they want to hear. Even the smart ones. There’s no scam going on here much less a “horrible” one. Besides, this isn’t about getting someone with smarts. It’s all about getting some. Is it that hard to accept that people apply game when game is required?

  104. What an asshole you are. Karma is what you will get. A life with a cheater an a liar because you re manifesting it right here. All your loyal followers can look forward to same. Good luck dickheads.

    1. What a troll you are.
      Karma has probably been following you around as you shadow this site with these weak attempts at trying to heckle others. You don’t have a point and it’s all about calling people names now. That’s exactly the attitude that people expect of those that support false morality.
      Typical routine: Don’t have anything of real substance? Just call people names.

        1. Totally appreciate the sentiments, Caleb.
          The self proclaimed ‘Xena’s?
          It’s actually sad to see people who are so mired in their denial. Not only are they unable to accept the truth (regardless of how patiently it is explained) they attempt to stop anyone else from seeing these truths.
          Once their false logic is exposed, they will resort to a campaign of harassment and bullying.

  105. Ffs you cunts are all fucked plenty of women want no strings just like men why fuck with the ones that want more :/ least now I know no more dating sites for me

    1. You’re just another angry woman that can’t even get lucky on plenty of fuglies so you come here to vent your trollish frustrations. No one will miss you there.

    2. You’re just another angry woman that can’t even get lucky on plenty of fuglies so you come here to vent your trollish frustrations. No one will miss you there.

  109. I just sent this article to my boyfriend, who I ironically met off of Plenty of Fish. We both are laughing our asses off. By the way, I sent the first message. He didn’t lie about anything on his profile and we’re happy. Who knew, sometimes it’s used as a site to actually find a date…

    1. Another day. Another story. Even if this conveniently story was true, the exception to the rule hardly means it isn’t happening. POF is full of delusional women that ruin the online experience for everyone (including themselves).
      You’d think that if you were so fortunate, you’d have a little more compassion for everyone else. Why you are posting here is another (sure… you just “stumbled onto here”… More clues that this is rather dubious.

  110. Whomever wrote this article is a COMPLETE Idiot! I have used dating sites and POF was one of them. I didn’t use it because I cannot spend the money on any other site nor did I use it to be someone’s one night stand.
    It really doesn’t matter if the site is free or if you paid 10,20 or 30 a month to use it. The lame men that try to use women are on all of these dating sites. They range from all ages, all races, all heights, married, engaged, divorced, single, etc and from all levels of stupidity and ignorance. Do you men seriously think all women on there are “Stupid”?
    You can lie all you want but an Intelligent woman will know your martial status, your height, your age and so forth before she even meets you.. It’s 2013 you Idiot!! Technology is way too advanced for you to lie that much. If you come across a smart one she will tell you things about yourself you don’t even know!! Good Luck using women..It’s funny now but it will be sad when your old and “ALONE”

    1. People who just come here to bash are far more the idiots. Most the women are DELUSIONAL on POF. What part of that are you not understanding.
      An “Intelligent” woman doesn’t have to go online to find a suitable man. She puts far less emphasis on things like height and realizes that it’s the women who play these games that ruin it for everyone else.
      Yes, YOU won’t be alone. After all, 20 cats are great company.

  111. The writer is a dick . Never read a big amount of bollocks in my life one guy who followed your rules 1) didn’t get laid as I have more self respect than that anyway 2) I found out about his lies as I’m intelligent . You haven’t dated every woman of plenty of fish no so you don’t know what we’re like your a prejudice prick who needs to grown the f up ur rules backfire !

  112. The writer is a dick . Never read a big amount of bollocks in my life one guy who followed your rules 1) didn’t get laid as I have more self respect than that anyway 2) I found out about his lies as I’m intelligent . You haven’t dated every woman of plenty of fish no so you don’t know what we’re like your a prejudice prick who needs to grown the f up ur rules backfire !

    1. if the writer is a dick, it isn’t from what this article says. Someone who is “intelligent” would realize that one doesn’t have to date every single woman on Plenty of Fives to figure out that it’s full of delusional wannabees.
      The gods-gift to man attitude is what backfires. Why else would there be so much anger? If you can tell who is lying, just what is the problem?

  113. You Guys’ are making it way , way too complicated . That’s what hookers , massage parlors are for(Tijuana). You can get a young pretty girl or girls who is actually nice for at least 20 bucks. Not clock watchers like in the u.s. . Always shower first. This way you go home free as a bird. MDMA (xtc) it would be nice to be on that though before going to meet girls, confidence galore!

  114. There are so many things wrong with your approach that I do not even know where to begin to comment. If you want sex without intimacy, honesty, or friendship…why not just hire a whore? That would be more direct, less hassle, and a more cost effective use of time. Do you actually LIKE living in your lie slime? Anybody ever try to explain the meaning of the word “character” to you?
    Lone Ranger

    1. There’s nothing wrong with applying some marketing skills and even those deranged and alone know it. Men want intimacy, honesty and friendship with those who offer it.
      Those POF princesses? Being deluded and inflating one’s own attractiveness is not being “honest” (not even with one self). Being after guys to show off to your girlfriends is not looking for “friendship”. Collecting solicitations to stroke your ego is not about wanting “intimacy”.
      Do delusional people such as POF princesses, LIKE living in their lies? No. It’s just that the alternative of living the truth (as in realizing that the problem is them) is harder.
      Get over yourself. Admit that the problem is the conceited and self-serving attitude of POF princesses. If they were so great why would they have to come here to troll? That is what a LACK of character is. There’s no need for angry people who only come here to lash out at others to “explain” it. They demonstrate it their actions.

  115. Your a fucken scum bag and I would see right through your corney ass! Anyone who thinks this bullshit is gonna work is just as pathetic as the douche bag author. Good luck beating ur shit in mommys shower!

    1. LOL. Same old name-calling = usual lack of real argument.
      If you could see right through it, why are you so concerned? Some sort of altruist service for your deluded sisterhood? If embellishment didn’t work, then why do women where make-up, use push-up bras, take photos that hide the 30 extra pounds around the butt?
      The only thing pathetic around here are people who come back time after time to post up insults and think it’s some kind of insightful input.
      Get rechargeable batteries, the alkaline ones aren’t environmentally friendly and at the rate your toy runs them dry, it’s more economical. Good luck with remembering the names of the thirty cats that keep you company.

  116. Your a fucken scum bag and I would see right through your corney ass! Anyone who thinks this bullshit is gonna work is just as pathetic as the douche bag author. Good luck beating ur shit in mommys shower!

  117. We attract what we are. Sick, broken people attract the same. Any girl with good self esteem and boundaries will run fast from a guy like this blogger.

    1. Same inapplicable old cliche. Delusional POF women just hold out for the 10’s since they over-inflate their self worth. If these princesses were that hot they wouldn’t have to be online.
      All that is being said here is that you apply “spin” to basically play the same game. People with good self-esteem wouldn’t be trolling this topic to bash the blogger. Your comment is the tired old derogatory remark that contains no substance.
      Online dating is largely ruined by delusional women. Some of the really sick and broken ones even go to troll sites in attempts to harass others that speak out about it.

    2. You project what you are: sick and broken. like Tunt says, if you had good self esteem, you wouldn’t be coming here over and over again to post up these personal attacks. You don’t really have anything legit to say. Get a life, loooooser.

  118. POF no longer allow members to search for intimate encounters. Most people are now going to DateorPlay.com to get laid as they are 100% free.

  119. Congratulations you are officially a wanker. The kind of man that needs a good old slap across the face & his balls stiletto’d. Your description of women who use this site does not match the kind of women I am. That is smart, confident, goal driven, loving & yes I’m not afraid to say it hot. As for men who have to lie about height, their job & whatever else they feel the need to lie about what does that say about them? Let me scream that answer out to you, they are not a REAL man & certainly lacking self confidence if they need to lie about height & other things. Sad, lonely deprived little beings who I feel sorry for because they WILL die old and alone. Kisses xxx

    1. Congratulations, Sherrie. You are officially another angry woman who thinks that a conjured exception negates a rule that is easily observed.
      To feel that the author needs to be physically injured betrays the obvious projection of your own frustrations. If you were so “smart, confident and goal driven” you wouldn’t be here casting pejoratives. Not only that, you wouldn’t bother with sites like Plenty-of-fives. No. You are here because of the usual agenda to “blame men” for embellishing when it’s really the delusional women inhabit online dating.
      It’s already been CLEARLY pointed out to all here that it’s got NOTHING to do with the confidence of the men. When all the fives on plenty-of-trash are holding out for 10’s, it would be… THEIR problem.
      Sad and lonely? No. Most players just play POF for fun. They get enough action on in the real world (you know, the REAL world, where 5’s are really 5’s and not the 10’s they think they are).
      You only wish these guys would suffer the same fate that you are imposing on yourself. No amount of haughty attitude is going to hide that from yourself (much less anyone else).

    2. Yeah, i dont know about this site, pof or the rest of it. But, my nuts and your stilettos doesnt sound terrible. 🙂 Kisses XXXX

  120. My friend found this site and it’s the best laugh I’ve had in ages. But I just wanted to clarify a couple of things. Is the premise behind this “educational” site “How to get an ugly guy laid?”. Just clarifying because after reading this I had the impression that if a short, fat, slow witted “tradie” turns up instead of the tall slim professional he professed to be he will he expect a “sympathy fuck” based on procedures followed on this site. I could be wrong but I am fairly certain most females profiles don’t read “disability hooker” in the section for occupation?

    1. Lol. The usual “my friend found this site”.
      Own up to yourself that you are shadowing this blog and trying to discredit it with the usual false logic.
      Just where does it say that the guy is “ugly”. You are again ignoring the clear trend that POF is filled with delusional women that think anything less than a 10 is not worthy of their attention. All the while they ignore that they are 5’s at best.
      Slow witted isn’t that awful a trait. You don’t need a lot of intelligence to make it in this world. Good old fashioned hard work is effective as it was thousands of years ago. Of course, most delusional women don’t even care about “wit” if the guy as a six-pack and is six feet plus.
      Speaking of which, only women with self-image issues (complete with low self-esteem) harp on about height. A person’s altitude is not his problem. However, a delusional woman’s attitude is ALL hers.
      Fat? That’s more projection. Most delusional women that protest here are usually cow-size and resort to online dating because they can’t compete in the real world.
      The article is just about applying game because most of the women that are relegated to online dating are delusional. That is all. No amount of “blaming the guys” based on false logic is changing that.

  122. I make the following relevant observations and intend no disrespect to either gender. To make a very fine point on logic versus emotion…….ask a woman what is STRONGER……”IN LOVE” or “LOVE”. I was amazed to find out a majority of the woman select “in love” as much stronger. A majority of the men select “love” as stronger. Now here is the rub. Ask the obvious question…..WHY. The women tended to use “IN LOVE” in their definition and reasoning. Typically the response is close to: “when you are in love it is a much stronger feeling” or my favorite, “ask anyone they will say ‘in love’ is more powerful”.. That seems to be the end of the argument. My logical argument response was….well if you say “in” love, you have already diminished the word love by qualifying or diluting it with “in”. Moreover, men can fall in and out of love regularly. Not as strong FOR A GUY. Men also tend to feel free to say “I am ‘in love’ with (insert actress here)”. Men also state “I ‘love’ my mother”. (Does any guy say they are “in love” with their mother?……Does that mean we don’t love our mothers as much?). It could be just different. I am “in love” with my mother gets creepy. I “love” my dog is wonderful. I am “in love” with my dog, is disturbing. Maybe that is why we will argue so strongly on the topic. The point is “in love” may be stronger than “love” for that woman. You don’t have to be right or change her mind. Just move on without conflict…….. and pay attention the next time she says “I love you” or “I am in love” with you. Now it matters.
    So when you say “I am ‘in love’ with you (girlfriend)”, you are stating what she wants to hear, not lying because you really do “love” her.

    1. No. The observations about a potential difference in the terms “love” and “in love” are not relevant. It is purely a semantics argument and a deflection.
      It also attempts to hide a notion that men are inherently more predisposed to be less emotionally attached to the notion of “love”. That isn’t true.
      If anything, it’s the other way around. Women will rationalize their pursuit of trophies rather than true partnership by leaving their own culpability out of the equation.
      “We argue so strongly on the topic”?
      No. The polarity only exists because women who feel they are entitled to treat men as chattel believe that no one is even allowed to call them out on that attitude.
      The online experience tends to inflate a woman’s ego and that often leads to delusions of grandeur.

  123. Well I have definitely enjoyed this thread.
    As a 40 year old happily married man, I fully understand the frustration of the guys out there. Unfortunately today’s girls have very high expectations on what they want in a man and for various reasons described below can’t seem to understand that such men are well beyond their means.
    As a matter of fact, if any of these girls are successful teeing the knots (job well done) end up divorced in their mid 30’s as they find out about their husbands infidelities.
    How can you blame the guy? His average sweetheart is not aging as well as he does, her hormonal imbalances are starting to add to the everyday stress and last but least she is a bucket of expired ovaries.
    If you are still reading ..here is my theory:
    Take a girl that is an average 6 (and I am not only referring to external features, her grey cells do count for 30%)..when she is 16 to 24sh she enjoys the attention of guys that are let’s say above 7. This is very common and happens a lot not because she is a catch but for the simple reason that the guys were looking for a bag to empty their loads in and these girls happened to be around.
    Ladies; who you were that night did not really count.
    There is nothing wrong with getting off with a good catch and if I was around that night I will give you a high five…but please don’t start writing Harlequin novels on what you would like to catch based on that one (or few) nighters.
    If you are a 6, chances are that by your late Twenties your cellulite will start emerging, your boobs will start drooping and the first wrinkles will start appearing. You just dropped to a 5.
    If by now you are still pursuing the 7++ I have some bad news for you, the 7++ guy(s) you met have “kind” of grown up, they are now looking for something more serious and the smart girls around him that are 7’s or 8’s are catching them as they know the time is ticking in their reproductive cycle.
    So now you get to your mid Thirties. By that time both sex start aging. Somehow, nature is less forgiving when it comes to ladies. You just dropped to a 4 and are almost an expired shelve life product (from a reproductive perspective) while the guys 7++ (if any are still left) not only have fully matured but are looking for the girls in their 20’s that are still fresh off the shelves. No wonder all the single girls, on most dating sites, continually ask “is there a good man out there…?” the answer is NO not 7++ not the 6 and the 5’s are slowly disappearing.
    By now you are very lucky if you can hookup with a 5, might have some chances (not much though) with a 4. The 3’s out there should be your safest bet. It is very frustrating, I totally get it.
    If you wait till your Forties, this is when reality hits hardest. Now even the guy that is a 2 is finding out that he can catch a younger girl, by now you are no longer on any men’s radar screen. Well maybe if you look at the 50++ year old divorcee or widow.
    Getting back to the thread above
    It clearly shows the guy’s frustration (with such girls) as they are realizing their advantages. They are leveling the playing field with all the tricks mentioned above and are brave enough to express it. But if girls are shocked about such comments …wait till you get to your Forties these same guys won’t be lying anymore. They will simply cease to see you.
    The guys above are also finding that while they can afford to wait (from a reproductive perspective) for the younger girls to come to terms with the reality, they can, in the meantime, take advantage of your desperations. For the girls out there, I know it is not fair and even sad but thank God we have “sex in the city” to come up with toys you can buy to get the job done.

  124. This article really is excellent, funniest thing I’ve read since Everybody Poops. About as much shit in it as well.

    1. Naw. There isn’t really any “shit” in it at all. It’s all pretty close to the truth and not that easy to laugh off. Still funny though.

  125. I’m impressed with those of you confident enough to claim that ‘most’ women on PoF lie about pretty much everything. You must be really big men if you’d managed to actually talk to and meet several million women from several dozen countries. Unless of course you’re generalising …which is just a fancy way of saying ..you made shit up. 😉
    P.s I’m not big, or a feminist, or a lesbian ..but you know how women are, we cant help but lie about ourselves when we’re on the internet.

    1. That’s pretty weak as usual.
      You are employing the “plea to ignorance” fallacy. To determine a statistically significant trend, there is no need to sample every single case. That is how science works even if you are a troll.
      Since it’s pretty easy to see that sites like POF are bursting with delusional women (complete with the coy profiles, carefully staged photos, lack of response, etc…) it is -not- “generalizing”, it’s a measurable truth.
      Many women can’t help but lie about themselves online because they perceive that they are immune from direct consequences. No amount of trying to say that “it’s not true unless you talk to every single woman online” is going to remove that observation.
      No amount of coming here day after day to put up the same false logic is convincing anyone that you have anything valid to say either.

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  127. Advice to get laid on POF: Put up a profile. That’s a period, that’s all it takes. 80% of them are batshit crazy which is in line with the general population and some of them are actually pretty good looking.

  128. I have been kicked off just being respectful to everyone I spoke to. The only thing I did say to one women I was chatting with is thank you for your E-MAIL ADDRESS AND TOLD SHE I DID LEAVE HER A MESSAGE. Thanks Markurs for being such an 7498u5490i-o= guynnsi

  129. Soon you’ll be saying rape is ok. Also, if you have been so successful in bedding these “sluts”, I really hope one of them had full blown aids. Looks like “someone” had mummy issues and wasn’t loved.

    1. Translation:
      I’ll use the stereotypical exaggeration that any said that exposes the delusional attitude of women on POF is basically leading to “rape is OK”. It doesn’t make sense, but as an entitle feminist, that’s how I rationalize my anger.
      I will also wish that people suffer some life-threatening illness as well as say they had “mummy issues”. I don’t even realize that all this childish behaviour has been well documented in the article about the 7 typical responses by angry little people that hide behind feminism.

  131. Somebody has made this man really angry, although, it does have some funny lines, it is filled with bitterness..
    Now when it comes to the intelligence of a man, it’s sometimes underestimated…LET’S BE CLEAR: EVERY MAN IS GOING TO STICK EVERYTHING WITH A HOLE.. SORRY LADIES!
    According to John (generic name)
    These women are misfits, bottom dwellers but JOHN put in precious time, energy, money, emotions, to get to know these lovely ladies. How many was JOHN involved with? JOHN was having a ball enjoying the variety of misfits over sexed, low self esteem, hedge hunters, Santa Claus, Anorexia, bipolar, possibly AIDS infected ladies. IF JOHN WAS TRULY unhappy with the ladies, he wouldn’t have keep meeting them. JOHN knew he had a good thing going – UNTIL meeting ‘HE ONE… and she didn’t feel the same way.. then he met ” THE ONE” again, and she didn’t feel the same way. then he met “THE ONE” and she didn’t feel the same way.. Something happened to JOHN along the way of his joyous ride with the summer bunnies, and tons of fun…
    MOST MEN don’t usually attacked women in such a demeaning way, he will walk away 1st. UNLESS HE’S ALREADY AN ABUSER.. you have to really RUB a man the wrong way, but usually, man will try and catch themselves, before things get out of hand..
    Whoever hurt JOHN, did some damage. JOHN took the time to know some of these women. Now JOHN sounds like he hates women. Did he find out his lover is bisexual? Did he find the perfect lady, & she was cheating him with others men/ladies on POF? Did he contract the package that he spoke about? Did he? Did he? Did he? Whatever happen to JOHN HAVE A SERIOUS EFFECT ON HIM..
    If he has children that he loves, takes cares of, and is an active parent in their lives.. daughters: surely he wouldn’t want them to date a man with this type of attitude. sons: surely, he would want to show them how to treat a lady, and give them this of advice.. So ladies when a man is bitter, he isn’t thinking clearly. Hopefully, he’s reached out for some help, and he can get pass what has happened to him…
    JOHN IF YOUR LISTENING, ITS GOING TO BE ALRIGHT.. LET IT GO! DON’T GIVE UP! SOCIAL MEDIA IS PULLING FOR YOU..

  132. Somebody has made this man really angry, although, it does have some funny lines, it is filled with bitterness..
    Now when it comes to the intelligence of a man, it’s sometimes underestimated…LET’S BE CLEAR: EVERY MAN IS GOING TO STICK EVERYTHING WITH A HOLE.. SORRY LADIES!
    According to John (generic name)
    These women are misfits, bottom dwellers but JOHN put in precious time, energy, money, emotions, to get to know these lovely ladies. How many was JOHN involved with? JOHN was having a ball enjoying the variety of misfits over sexed, low self esteem, hedge hunters, Santa Claus, Anorexia, bipolar, possibly AIDS infected ladies. IF JOHN WAS TRULY unhappy with the ladies, he wouldn’t have keep meeting them. JOHN knew he had a good thing going – UNTIL meeting ‘HE ONE… and she didn’t feel the same way.. then he met ” THE ONE” again, and she didn’t feel the same way. then he met “THE ONE” and she didn’t feel the same way.. Something happened to JOHN along the way of his joyous ride with the summer bunnies, and tons of fun…
    MOST MEN don’t usually attacked women in such a demeaning way, he will walk away 1st. UNLESS HE’S ALREADY AN ABUSER.. you have to really RUB a man the wrong way, but usually, man will try and catch themselves, before things get out of hand. whoever hurt JOHN, did some damage. JOHN took the time to know some of these women. Now JOHN sounds like he hates women. Did he find out his lover is bisexual? Did he find the perfect lady, & she was cheating him with others men/ladies on POF? Did he contract the package that he spoke about? Did he? Did he? Did he? Whatever happen to JOHN HAVE A SERIOUS EFFECT ON HIM..
    If he has children that he loves, takes cares of, and is an active parent in their lives.. daughters: surely he wouldn’t want them to date a man with this type of attitude. sons: surely, he would want to show them how to treat a lady, and give them this of advice.. So ladies when a man is bitter, he isn’t thinking clearly. Hopefully, he’s reached out for some help, and he can get pass what has happened to him…
    JOHN IF YOUR LISTENING, ITS GOING TO BE ALRIGHT.. LET IT GO! DON’T GIVE UP! SOCIAL MEDIA IS PULLING FOR YOU..

  133. Somebody has made this man really angry, although, it does have some funny lines, it is filled with bitterness..
    Now when it comes to the intelligence of a man, it’s sometimes underestimated…LET’S BE CLEAR: EVERY MAN IS GOING TO STICK EVERYTHING WITH A HOLE.. SORRY LADIES!
    According to John (generic name)
    These women are misfits, bottom dwellers but JOHN put in precious time, energy, money, emotions, to get to know these lovely ladies. How many was JOHN involved with? JOHN was having a ball enjoying the variety of misfits over sexed, low self esteem, hedge hunters, Santa Claus, Anorexia, bipolar, possibly AIDS infected ladies. IF JOHN WAS TRULY unhappy with the ladies, he wouldn’t have keep meeting them. JOHN knew he had a good thing going – UNTIL meeting ‘HE ONE… and she didn’t feel the same way.. then he met ” THE ONE” again, and she didn’t feel the same way. then he met “THE ONE” and she didn’t feel the same way.. Something happened to JOHN along the way of his joyous ride with the summer bunnies, and tons of fun…
    MOST MEN don’t usually attacked women in such a demeaning way, he will walk away 1st. UNLESS HE’S ALREADY AN ABUSER.. you have to really RUB a man the wrong way, but usually, man will try and catch themselves, before things get out of hand..
    Whoever hurt JOHN, did some damage. JOHN took the time to know some of these women. Now JOHN sounds like he hates women. Did he find out his lover is bisexual? Did he find the perfect lady, & she was cheating him with others men/ladies on POF? Did he contract the package that he spoke about? Did he? Did he? Did he? Whatever happen to JOHN HAVE A SERIOUS EFFECT ON HIM..
    If he has children that he loves, takes cares of, and is an active parent in their lives.. daughters: surely he wouldn’t want them to date a man with this type of attitude. sons: surely, he would want to show them how to treat a lady, and give them this of advice.. So ladies when a man is bitter, he isn’t thinking clearly. Hopefully, he’s reached out for some help, and he can get pass what has happened to him…
    JOHN IF YOUR LISTENING, ITS GOING TO BE ALRIGHT.. LET IT GO! DON’T GIVE UP! SOCIAL MEDIA IS PULLING FOR YOU..

  134. Well the men who troll this site are just as stupid as the “desperate” women who sign up! And women, if you unwittingly signed up to POF and even worse, unfortunate enough to SNAG a male stupid enough to be trolling then yeah, play them at their own game – have a bit then bounce!!!

    1. The trolls that come here defending the “desperate” women who sign up are just those “desperate” women. They delude themselves into thinking that they can fool anyone. Once people see the 50 extra pounds and 10 extra years, they are gone. Have a bit of a delusion. LOL.

  135. Why are all the women up in arms about this? Did you honestly think all the men were lovely until you read this eye opener? Someone just wrote it down that’s all. It kinda makes sense. If you want someone who wants to commit to you or whatever, go and pay for a dating site where the man had to pay to talk to you too. It is unlikely a man will pay four hundred million pounds a month to maybe potentially one day have unsatisfactory sex with you if that’s all he’s after. Hence Plenty of Fish as a resource. Everyone calm down.

    1. Better yet. Just be honest with yourself and meet people in the real world. The online way makes it too easy to hide behind a seriously exaggerated profile just to get a bunch of response from guys you think your online version of you is too good for.
      If you are all that, go and find guys outside. They are all out there and no one can lie about any of the “looks” that you demand. Then again, you can’t lie about them either.

  136. dont ya just luv Karma! When these dudes are too old, too boring, too full of it to be looking for someone who might actually ‘care’ about them, Karma would have done a 360 on them! luv it…you carry on doing what you do best.. 😉

    1. LOOOOOLLLL.
      Talk about Freudian slips. You do realize that 360 (degrees) is a complete circle. You are therefore facing the exact same direction that you started in.
      As far as Karma. You are accidentally correct. These “dudes” are never too old, never too boring or even full of themselves to be looking for real women. All those negative traits are a projection of the typical entitled feminist troll that thinks they are being witty.
      As usual, you fail miserably in your attempt. (*hint: stay in school. Pay attention to Geometry)

  137. Guys and Gals, as a 50 year old man let me share a bit of wisdom….there are good people out there. Some are men and some are women. We all have pasts and we all have baggage. The truth is, you will never find a respectable partner until you respect yourself and you’ll never respect yourself until your a completely honest person. My 52 year old brother behaves like this article and he’s extremely unhappy but gets lots of dates. As you age you realize Life is shorter than you think and hooking up is fun at times but playing games is not. Ultimately hurting others only accomplishes hurting yourself. You’ll never find self pride by poor behavior. If you want to be a man then act like one. We’ve all been hurt, it’s part of life but maliciously lying only hurts you. Learn to treat others how you want to be treated and avoid others who don’t appreciate you. It’s pretty damn nice knowing your a good person and no one can ever take that from you.

  138. WOW!! THIS IS PRETTY LAME. I DOUBT ANY OTHER MEN ACTUALLY BELIEVE THIS CRAP. AND LADIES… DON’T FALL FOR IT. MY AUNT MARRIED HER POF GUY. AND I HOOKED UP 5 OTHER GIRLS WITH POF. AND TWO OF THEM ARE MARRIED NOW TO MEN WHO ARE EXACTLY WHAT THEY DESCRIBED THEMSELVES TO BE. AND ONE OF THEM IS NOW ENGAGED, WHILE TWO OF THEM ARE HAPPY DATING IN SEARCH OF WHAT THEY WANT. WHICH IS FREE DINNERS, DRINKS, DANCING OR WHATEVER COMES IN THE BAGGAGE. OF-COURSE IS NOT ONLY MEN THAT USE WOMEN. WE USE MEN TO. =) ALL THE TIME. PERFECT FOR WHATEVER WE WANT. GIVE A FAKE NAME, A GOOGLE NUMBER, GO OUT ON A DATE WHERE WE CHOOSE TO MEET. HAVE A GREAT TIME WHEN WE ARE BORED. AND NEVER CALL THEM AGAIN. THEN SIMPLY DELETE OUR GOOGLE NUMBER. IS ALL A MATTER OF WHAT YOU MAKE IT. THERE IS NO FALSE HOPE OR DREAMS ON THERE. TRUST.

    1. Wow!! Your shouting is pretty lame. Your stories are the reason that nobody takes POF seriously. It’s a trash site full of angry delusional women that like to think they can fool guys into spending money on them. Most men just find hook-ups in the real world where fat cows that think they can fool guys online fear to show there huge butts. Dream on.

  139. You forgot another key area: Age
    If you are over 40….lie like a rug.
    The number of gentlemen over the age of 40 telling the truth about their age on any given online dating site is exponentially minuscule compared to those aged 60+ claiming to 40-something.

  140. What a crock of s**t!!!!!! There are plenty of good women on this site. If all you want is to get laid then go to the Ashly Madison online site. You will have to pay for it. I have been told by some that it works and others that it doesn’t. For your guys that believe this crap that this guy Frost writes then you don’t deserve a good woman. You are still self centered, insecure and immature. Yes i want to get laid too but i don’t prey on them. If it happens then it will happen. I am also looking for a good woman. Any one that lies about their profile is insecure and most women who go out with you after they see that you lied are insecure and most of them will have lied about their profile and pic like you did and they will most likely be fat or obese. so you will get what you deserve. I have very high standards and am not hard up like you guys. I do not lie because i do not want someone to lie to me, AND I WILL NOT go out with a fat woman. I feel sorry for you younger guys because in todays world the national average of women being over weight is 70% and 30% of them are obese. While back in the 60’s and 70’s the figure was more like 15% of all women were over weight and 2% were obese. What was obese then = just fat today!! Back then the average weight for a woman that was 5’5″ was 125, now it is 140+. a woman that is 5’5″ can not carry 140 lbs and look good and there are tons of women out there that are 5’5 and weigh 160 to 200 lbs!!! It wasn’t like that back in the 60’s and 70’s. Also the woman those days walked down main street braless and the std’s were minor compared to todays diseases the average woman today has rolls around their waist, there were few that had those rolls around their midsection back in the 70’s. A woman that was overweight then would be normal for today. I still hold out for the woman that are in good shape because i am not hard up and will not just go to bed with any body like you guys. If they are fat and i can’t get laid then i would much prefer to do it myself. Of course there are women on here that want sex as bad as we do but most of them are hard up just like you guys are. If they are hard up then that means they are probably fat.

    1. It’s not a crock of shit at all. Percentage-wise there are very few decent women on Plenty Of Cows. Even then, online makes it easy to lie. Women will build themselves up and become totally delusional in what they believe the deserve in return. That’s not so hard to understand. There are hardly any good women on that site.

  142. I didn’t want to end up on this page but now that I did and read below comments…I really can’t believe any of you men get laid at all .. just WOW ! Guess all you men or should I say… so called men are making your mom’s so proud !

    1. You didn’t want to end up on this page, but you did. That’s proof enough that weak minds can be manipulated hence the methods here work. WOW! Guess all you trolls or should I say, so-called troll wannabes are making yourselves so proud!

  143. You clearly aren’t getting laid, and if you are its not by women whom you’d want to be laid by. You’re absolutely deluded, my advice would be go get some counseling. Lying about having AIDS is a criminal offense – which you encourage. Never ever commented on a blog before but your stupidity is just too difficult to ignore. From a guy, with more then half a brain cell.
    P.S. All guys who think this is correct and the way to get a woman need to really have a long hard serious think to yourself about what you’re doing with your life.

    1. You clearly have no clue on who is or is not getting laid, and if you did have a clue, it wouldn’t be about women that are worth being laid by. You’re absolutely deluded, my advice would be to get some counselling for your lack of insight. Lying about having AIDS is obviously a criminal offence so that was just a bit of a joke. If you actually believe it to not be exaggeration, then you are even more naive than you sound. You probably have commented here on a regular basis as a troll, and your stupidity is just too funny to ignore. It can’t be from a guy with even more than half a brain cell.
      P.S. All the trolls that think trolling like this is correct really need to have a long hard serious think to themselves about how little control you have over others.

  144. You clearly aren’t getting laid, and if you are its not by women whom you’d want to be laid by. You’re absolutely deluded, my advice would be go get some counseling. Lying about having AIDS is a criminal offense – which you encourage. Never ever commented on a blog before but your stupidity is just too difficult to ignore. From a guy, with more then half a brain cell.
    P.S. All guys who think this is correct and the way to get a woman need to really have a long hard serious think to yourself about what you’re doing with your life.

  145. You are a typical moron and a total imbecile !! I am on Plenty of Fish and I fish men just like you ! I wonder what your mother or sister if any would say about a prick like you !

    1. You are a typical angry man hating fat pig of woman that isn’t even smart enough to be a moron or an imbecile. You are on Plenty of Cows and try to trawl for men. However, you can’t even get them because once they see what you really look like and how much fat you carry, the walk out. Most people’s mothers and sisters aren’t angry man-haters like you, so they probably don’t have much to say about bull dyke fatties like you.

    1. Well, it still gets the point across, while your response is irrelevant. Go troll some other site that cares about useless posts like yours.

  147. Women must’ve really bruised your ego to feel you have to boost it by belittling them. How’s that working for you?

    1. No. That’s just the usual rationalization of a woman that can’t admit inflated-ego entitled women are the cause of all the problems. Delusional Plenty-of-Liars women love to think they aren’t what wrecks the online dating world when in reality they are the WHOLE problem. How is the daily trolling working for you?

  148. Ha Ha…..Girls this is great!! Let’s apply their theory and see how many of these guys end up in your inbox!!! Fucktards!!

    1. Lame bitchtards already apply all sorts of lying photo faking. You know it because fat rejects like you do it the most. Fat tard.!! Lol !!

  149. 1 word = Douche. ever tried being honest wiv someone.i met my boyf on POF and everything on his profile was 100% true and we’ve been together for 2 years and 4 mths.

    1. 1 word = TROLL.
      Just trying to say that one exception makes all of this false. WRONG. You are the typical childish woman that can’t admit that most women on plenty of dogs are delusional liars.

  150. To the person who wrote this page. What a total DICK! Wow-and I thought some people I know are shallow, but you take the cake and you obviously have absolutely no respect for women. I have never been on POF’s site and have never even heard of it until today, so I thought I’d do a little research I am glad that I read this because I would NEVER bunch myself in with men
    who have read this and sign up with expectations far beyond what is realistic.

    1. To the troll who wrote that comment: You are a total LOSER! You haven’t been to Plenty-of-liars yet, by a little “research” you can refute the practically unanimous understanding from those who HAVE experienced it. That’s bullshit.
      The truth is that Plenty-of-Crap is bursting with delusional women that think they are 10’s and expect only 10’s to be contacting them. Admit it to yourself. Coming here to troll the usual garbage is only proving that this is true.
      Stop living in denial.

    1. Says the Dolly that comes here to post. Just how much avoidance was that. Nope. You’re just the usual troll that thinks personal insults are valid arguments. Practice what you preach and avoid all of us, TROLL.

  155. This is the greatest thing I have ever read not because I hate women or anything like that but it is true and fair.
    Women play their games we play ours.
    I especially like the height part being 5’4 and using my actual height on the net really gets me nowhere and it has nothing to do with looks because in all honesty I’ve never had a problem picking up women in a bar or in person somewhere but alas I work 60+ hours a week and sometimes casually meeting someone is hard so online dating it is.
    For some reason online not only do I not get a message sent back even after sending like 100 in a day my profile never even gets looked at unless I send a message. I have experimented with stating I was 5’7 on a a completely identical profile aside from height and I immediately got profile views So, I sent out a couple dozen messages and it was ridiculous I immediately got like 6 returned messages and a couple of them were women who snubbed messages from my original profile I ended up meeting 3 of the women and slept with one on the first date.
    My point is this, Women are just as no fuck that are more shallow than guys when it comes to online dating and not only that these site cater to them not us.
    If you ladies want us to be honest and genuine then stop posting flattering photos in the right angle that makes you look 50 pounds lighter all while thinking that you will find a prince harry look alike who’s 7 feet tall and a billionaire because ladies even if you are gorgeous and that guy does exist he probably wont be on a online dating site…this isn’t the movie pretty woman no rags to riches story should be your goal, so lower your standards and be realistic and we won’t lie
    END OF STORY.

  156. The author of this this article must be a really short man with a small penis who has had to lie his entire life to get laid. Oh and you have probably never known what real love is like, which is why you sound like such a pathetic man. Grow the F up. A real man does NOT have to lie to get a woman into bed. I hope you and whomever follows this absurd advice get an STD, preferably Herpes.

    1. The writer of this response must be a really hurt woman that she must resort to insulting someone on their alleged height and genital organ size (both of which are not voluntary nor a direct measure of performance). Exhibiting that much internal hatred is probably why she doesn’t now any real love. That makes her a particularly pathetic woman. Grow the F up. A real woman does not have to use all the lies, half truths and carefully angled photos (or really old ones) to get men to respond. The truth is that Plenty-of-liars is full of DELUSIONAL women. Some of which, when exposed, will wish an STD upon those they hate.

    2. So Snotchick, I mean Hot chick, plays the Penis Card. Game over for her. It means she has no argument and is left with nothing other than resorting to the ad hominem.
      You have validated all that Frost has stated, that women are intellectually bankrupt and emotionally vacant. With respect tor you, just realize that men do not like cold leftovers.

  157. Get a clue, people. Women are using us…not the other way around. Sick of getting my heart trampled on.

    1. Overweight? You can change that.
      Having a complex? That too can be worked on.
      Single? You can “settle” if marital status is that big an issue.
      But…
      Short? No one can change that. It shows how deeply prejudiced “antifrosters” actually are.
      All you are doing is trying to assign blame to the observer rather than admit that Plenty-of-Fakes is full of delusional women that think they are 10’s, and as such, will only respond to 10’s themselves.
      Get over it.

  159. I’m a Male & after reading a few posts & what the site suggests about women the owner of this site & other Imbeciles who deplete woman as SLUTS need to take a real good look at yourselves, you FUCKING IDIOTS!!

    1. You’re just the same old troll that comes here every day. You have nothing to say against this so you resort to the usual childish name-calling. Get a life, loser.

  160. So that’s how it works… All this time I was being somewhat honest on POF, and all I had to do was think like a man!

    1. even though this article is about sex it just goes to show how easy it is to become a bad person which is why i cant find a good one…

  162. Wow! How sad that men have become so low that they are unable to be truthful and honest to a woman and to themselves. Where have all of the real men gone? The answer to this question is certainly not to POF or POOF! But please don’t get me wrong woman have downgraded themselves to the point of no return when they open there legs to a wanna be man. Cheers! to the modern day bullshit of society and the lack of human connection.

    1. Nice attempt at blaming men.
      Men are totally ABLE to be truthful and honest to women and to themselves. It’s when DISHONEST women on sites like POF delude themselves into thinking they are way hotter than they actually are, and therefore expect only near-ten’s to be contacting them, that men develop a strategy to deal with it.
      You obviously DON’T WANT TO accept that women being delusion are the problem.
      Cheers to your denial.

  164. I actually deleted my account because of insure Men that lie about their age, appearance and financial status. I wouldn’t care if the man was going through a rough time, was going bald.. I respect honesty passion and respect for ones self and others.
    So if this is the case then a lot of men are missing out if they are taking your advice.

    1. You deleted your account because you can’t face what is a minor amount of challenge compared to what most men have to face when dealing with online dating.
      You say you don’t care about all these things but you can’t even take a little bit of inconvenience. You want “honesty” but refuse to admit that what is being said here is honesty.
      Men miss out when they think that most women online -aren’t- being delusional.

  166. Shoe inserts can give you 1 to 2 inches on your height. I meet a lot of girls who complain about guys showing up being shorter than their height stated on their profile. Of course these same girls lie their asses about their weight.

  167. I have just moved countries and I was thinking of trying online dating….am thinking twice now about it after reading this!

  168. i feel bad for you now, after reading this. you have so very little going for you that, you have to lie. i hope you can at least get an occasional pity fuck, from a girl who feels bad for you. you’re kind of like a scruffy, lost puppy. people bring them home because they feel bad for them but, don’t really want to keep them. hopefully, your future gets a little better for you. keep your chin up.

    1. I laugh at you now after reading your response. You have so much denial going on that you blame men for finding a way to get past how delusional women raise their expectations on-line way beyond what they can attract in the real world.
      You are kind of like a crazy cat woman that lives in a fantasy world where men are the problem regardless of how it is clearly the inflated self-worth of the out-competed woman think they are all hotties (when they are clearly not). Hopefully, you will eventually admit that you need to get beyond the ad hominem and grow up.

  169. I have been on a couple of dating sites And what I have found was women are much more dishonest then I was. I will diffinatly go alone with the if your this type body type tell them this lie. I have run into so many fat women I stopped looking for a normal one. All I found was either fat , credit leopards or completely crazy.

  170. LMAO. This is good stuff. I don’t usually write comments but what the heck…
    Let me be the first to explain it in a more rigorous fashion as follows:
    All jokes aside, it’s sadly true. The mass majority of ‘girls’ or at least that are ‘girls’ behind their profile are either sluts, has chronic disease, ugly as hell or simple brain dead. Not that it’s a bad thing but it’s a shame when the dumbest tagline you could ever think of gets you a positive reply compared to when you actually put forth effort. It is not that hard to create a ‘perfect’ profile to troll all the so called girls, heads over heels. All you need to do is make her believe you have lots of money and take pictures with some chicks with you in couple of photos you put up.
    Oh and mention that you are a country boy lol.
    For what it’s worth, there is that use of the internet. But for people like me that have 8-5 above average job, spend weekends with buddies, can carry out an educational conversation, know how to treat a women and recently went through a breakup, your best bet is fakery like this else you are dead in the water.
    All women know this, they know that men know and yet they are bounded by their delusional image of a perfect being (Whatever that happen to be. I Wouldn’t be surprised if all the features they dream of some how happen to be repetitive thoughts of another women’s fantasy).

  171. Hmmm. This makes me sad that anyone would treat anyone this way in any context, or that someone would feel so insecure and inferior. I found this because, as a POF user, I noticed many men’s profiles had one or two negative lines directed toward women on there coupled with lots of expressed amazement that someone like me would be on there and I wondered whether it was really that bad or if they were just really laying on the sweet talk (probably the latter). I can’t search for hetero women to see what they were experiencing (it shows me lesbians), so I Googled “women of PoF” and here I am. I’ve used the site several times over the past few years. I’ve had bad dates and good. Met very attractive, succesful men who turned out to be creepy pervs and genuinely sweet guys who turned out to be missing front teeth (the Mona Lisa smile in his pics made sense). Dated one guy for awhile and became friends with a few others. But, the vast majority have been decent, single guys who have been pretty honest. I’d say the female users are similar. I just started using it again because I recently moved to a town of less than 1500 people from which the nearest WalMart is 40 minutes. The dating pool is comparable to a nearly dry summer mud puddle full of tadpoles. PoF is probably similar to a bar, realistically, but it broadens that mud puddle. It’s like a really, really big bar. Maybe your article should have suggested a few beers before logging on, for both men and women. And, I’ve tried the two major pay sites and had similar results. I’m sure similar articles exist about landing a sugar daddy or some equally mindless horseshit. Don’t get all worked up over a silly article. It wasn’t written about you. That may be that self aggrandizement he speaks of. It is kinda d-baggy, though. 😉 Happy fishing, folks!

    1. na. You “found” this because you are the usual lurking troll. The article makes sense and you know it. Get lost.

  172. Wow if you want to get laid don’t listen to this crap!.  I am 45 years old 5’7″ and  130 lbs.  I list my body type as average. Why? I have 36D’s and curves so I am not a slender build. My 6 pack disappeared after a couple of kids so am not athletic and toned, but I do have a flat tummy.  I let my  photos speak for my body type and make sure a few of my picture have full body shots. 
    If you have lied in your profile about the obvious I will notice when we meet. I am 5’10 or 11″ in my heels, if I am looking down at you and don’t expect to be, I will call you out on it. My first question to you  will be “how tall are you?”. I will never insult  your body type but I will take immediate note of the belly hanging over your belt, if it is there, regardless of what you list as your build. 
    I am intelligent, have a great job and $350,000 paid off house. If you are an engineer and have a good career I will find that a positive. If you wash cars for a living….lies can’t hurt, but your IQ will most likely be reflected elsewhere, so it probably won’t work.  If you are trying to reflect wealth you best show up in your high end Mercedes wearing a $300 shirt to pull it off.  
    If you write me a generic email it will be deleted… unless you are a “10” in looks and have a great profile.   I get 10 emails on a slow day and 50 on a busy one. I can be choosy when deciding who I will respond to. I will even take the time to write back a “4” or “5” if the email is outstanding although it will nicely say ” no thanks” 
     
    If you are not making an effort to peruse me, I will forget about you. I average 20 emails a day. I don’t need to chase you.. You are the hunter and I am your prey. Be a man.
    He are my tips for those of you guys that just want to get laid.
    -Post lots of shirtless picture…. Skanks will love them. 
    -Email fat girls…. They can’t be picky
    -Email girls that are wearing very little clothing in their pictures. They are looking for you. 
    -If you are a “5” contact women that are “5’s” or less. (stay at or below your level)
    -If we have gone out and  I don’t answer you texts or calls after the date it means I am not interested in having sex with you.  Please go away! And stop wasting your time!
    – If you are a “10” there is no read any of this, I will just use you for sex! It will be short lived if you have no personality or suck in bed! 
    You don’t need to lie and play games. It really simple. We like sex too. 

    1. You’re just the typical delusional woman that inhabits Plenty-of-Fakes.
      You talk about your accomplishments, yet your first question is about the man’s height (not an accomplishment). You’ll pretend that it doesn’t matter, but, like all the delusional women on POF, all you are after is a “trophy”.
      If guys are going to put out that kind of effort, it makes more sense to just go out and apply it in person. Delusional types that hide out on sites like Plenty of Fakes aren’t worth the time.
      Since practically ALL of these delusional types can’t win in the real world, just apply the same amount of truth stretching that they do if you want to get laid. Just don’t expect that 5-7 fit momma to be anything more than the land whale trash that she really is.

  173. Lmao I’m a female on POF and this blog is spot on. I haven’t met anyone on pof and definitely won’t after this lmao. I cracked up reading this. Good job.

  175. I know this works because I used a fake profile in my first few weeks on online dating because I wasn’t comfortable with it yet. A few girls called me out on it in person but the very first two dates I got off the site were the very first two girls I ended up having sex with.
    Now get this, my online profile was NOTHING like me. Fake pictures, fake summary etc. They basically got somewhat catfished.
    One of the girls asked me why I used fake pictures because I’m way, way cuter in person and than the pictures I used. I told her that I wasn’t comfortable with online dating yet and she just said okay. Lol.
    The other girl said “I don’t care if your profile is fake, I’m just glad I met you”.
    Since then I’ve taken that profile off and started using my real pictures and details. While I’m pulling more girls now than the old fake profile, if I can definitely fake an entire persona and still have the girls fall for me then faking a minor height or body type difference is relatively easy.

  176. what shxt. Even one eyed women without depth deperception can tell the difference between 5.8 and five ten. If they are 5.8 they are in 4 inch heels usually on a date. What an imbecile you are writer

    1. What a troll. A woman without depth in personality is one that holds so much esteem for 2 inches of height. Women that demand men be average height or more are the ones with serious self-image issues (commonly including excessive body fat). They are the ones who usually come here to troll. What an imbecile you are, troll.

  177. I must be one of the exceptions because I keep it real on POF and have been getting all kinds of women. Too many to deal with to be honest. I still have chicks I haven’t even call yet. I am athletic and my pics are tight so that maybe the reason. The model looking chicks on there are hard to get though. I’ve learned that the MeetMe tool is what can get your numbers up. Spend a couple of hours o n thay and watch the flood gates open with messages or women saying they want to Meet you

  180. Well sorry to break it to you guys but some with more going on than just the minimal content of their pants have met through POF and been together since. Thanks though, really, this gives me a realistic idea of how many creeps there really are out there, and confirms the warning signs *ciao*

    1. Well sorry to break it to you troll, but some with more going on than just the minimal content of their heads know that POF is full of delusional women since the beginning. Thanks though, really. Your response is proof of the unrealistic view of the world that delusional reject woman who have to use the online world. It confirms that they are warped. *ciao*

  181. Lol this works for a normal guy but honesty I’m ugly I don’t have a friend with a nice camera, I suck at taking my own pictures, I don’t have a job so even if I put it’s complicated I still have no money so I’m screwed lol but good advice

  182. what a load of utter crap have stopped using this site since they decided to play god, these so called experts decided that you cannot contact people in certain age groups

  183. I think this guy is a turd. Whoever you are whether it be a guy or a gal will come out during the initial meeting. Everybody has an idea of what they want in a relationship and if you can’t accept or respect the other person’s values then you shouldn’t pursue the relationship. Who wants a relationship built on lies; nobody! If all you want is casual sex then you should say so up front. Plenty of Fish is a Christian dating website and it’s a shame that you want to give it a bad reputation. I say to you own self be true. I am a true Christian and don’t believe in sex before marriage. I used to be Catholic and had monogamous relationships but I have found that usually doesn’t work out so much. So I am satisfied with being single and in the Lord’s will for my life. I am sure there is someone out there for me who feels the same way I do. Don’t let this writer discourage any of you ladies out there who are looking for love, and most of all don’t give up on love. Remember God is love, and he loves you.

  184. Man up! You males sound like lil bitches lol this whole article shouts “I’m insecure!” But I guess real men don’t have the time to sit behind a computer and write a load of rubbish 🙂

    1. Woman down! Your post is just trying to shame people for telling the truth about lousy sites like Plenty-of-drama. Your post shouts “I know it’s true but I need to pretend it isn’t”. Real women don’t have to resort to using online dating and trying to call things they can’t refute as “rubbish” 🙂

  185. well we all have to agree everyone is different you can see that by reading the different opinions here. It is silly to stereotype men or women, but narrow minded and bitter people do. There are some lovely guys and girls on POF and some sick crazy ones like the guy who wrote this. just hope the bad don’t get a chance to wreck the good.

    1. Saying that “everyone is different” is just trying to deflect away from the huge portion of delusional women on Plenty-o-Freaks. It’s not -silly- to figure out that most of the women on their are either fake members or women that all think they are god’s gift to mankind. There are very, very few decent women on that dating site. There are some sicko guys, but a lot of them are genuine. The problem is that most women regress to the children that they are once they feel “safe” from others seeing that behavior.
      POF is fully of drama queen, I’m a 10 (but really a 3). Don’t think so? Look at how the “women” react here. It’s so easy to be rude and insulting when you can hide behind your keyboard. Look at the guys here, they use logic and are quite polite (excusing responses to direct personal attack of course). It’s like that here. It’s like that on Plenty-of-beee-atchess.

  186. Can you *really* lie about your height?
    I mean short girls *may* not notice but taller ones definitely will.
    It just seems it would bit you on the ass. I don’t know if that “tingly butterflies of love” will make her forgive.
    I’m 5’8. It is rediculous that that’s the problem (one I can’t change). I have had one girl tell me that. But now I assume they all (more most/many) don’t want someone that height. They all want 6’1 or something rediculous.
    I’m interested to hear some responses.

  187. Dude, if you need to blatantly lie to women in order to get them to notice you, then you are doing something very wrong. Sounds like some serious insecurity issues to me. Shit like this make me ashamed to call myself a man sometimes.

    1. “Dude”, if you need to deflect the attention away from how most of the women on Plenty-of-Freaks expect men to be close to ten’s then you are wrong and you know it. Sounds like some serious denial issues to all. Deception like this makes it obvious you are one of those butt-hurt angry women who thinks they are god’s gift to mankind. Stop lying to yourself.

  188. Dam dude this is truth right here I get a reply 1 out of every 10 girls on any dating site with serious effort

  189. I use POF all the time. There are 3 types of women on it 1- dateable, 2-fuckable, and 3-untouchable. Dateable girls are the 9s and 10s that have no brains and want a country boy with money (some form of farmer bill gates type). Untouchables have brains but lack any looks, sense of fashion, or manners. Which leaves me with the fuckables. They are the 5s through 8s that aren’t sexy, but they might have a cute face or a big ass or big titties. The majority of POF girls fall into that category. I’m not a super model, im fat, but cute(puppy dog eyes help) and smart so i use those to my advantage. But ive gotten laid more in the 7 months on POF than in the previous 23 years. That’s all its really good for. Most of the girls on there are damaged goods ive comed to find out.

  190. the only reason you go on about sleeping with girls is because that’s the only stage you know you will ever get to without them discovering you lied about your life and are in fact a complete loser. Where are all the real men. I’m turning lesbian after reading this utter trash.

  191. Guys, trust me on this. Women complain that there are no guys on here who want a relationship, or the guys just want sex. That’s because these women are going for men that they KNOW only want sex. The good ‘nice’ guys who want a relationship are a turn off to women, even to women who say they want a relationship. Trust me, I’ve been on that site for over 5 years now, and I played both roles to test it out. Same women, with different pics and different personalities. They will respond to a hot bad boy player guy quicker than a good nice guy who wants a relationship. Women really aren’t hard to figure out. Only the men that women seem to be interested in.
    Just throw up a pic of you looking like a bad boy, and you’ll have a ton of women lined up (even messaging you FIRST). Act like a jerk and women (even the women who SAY they want a relationship) will change their mind in an instant.
    *Been an active user off and on for 5 years now (2009-2014). I played
    the nice guy at first, and got barely any responses. Then I threw up
    some hardcore pics of myself and started acting like a bold jerk and got
    laid more times than I can count.*
    Women aren’t hard to figure out guys. Trust me.

  193. Bunch of freakin lonely mom’s with little bastards in that website trying to find someone to take care of THEIR bastards OR mentally unstable women in medication. Seriously if you look closely %99 of em got children or some messed up ex they are trying to get away from…. STAY FAR AWAY , make money FOR YOURSELF and stay single until you find someone in REAL LIFE worthwhile and pretty.

  194. I couldn’t log on to POF today so I was trying to find out if the site was down & came across this…can’t stop laughing. Believe or not most women on that site like myself already know that men lie…and we lie…and it’s all just a game. But I would like to add that I’ve been doing the online thing on & off for the last two years and I’ve done “free” & “paid” sites. What I have found is the “douchebag factor” exists on ALL sites…so I would say to all women out there….don’t have a false sense of security because the guy had to pay to be on the site…the level of BS on those sites is just as high…so buyer beware…haha

  195. Okay that is the most disgusting thing I have ever heard, first off if you have time to make a post like this then WOW you must need to get a better job as you have way to much time on your hands! and Secondly how pathetic that you feel the need to look at women like a piece of meat. Surprise Surprise, some ladies are highly educated, definitely make more money than yourself and quite honestly are highly intelligent and would see through your fake and ridiculous attitude. PATHETIC!

  196. If you’re playing the numbers game lying is definitely the way to go but I’d be careful lads. When you’re ready to settle down, your old ways might come back to haunt you when you catch yourself telling small white lies about your job, travel, family life etc to someone you actually care about and want to spend your life with. Then she finds out you lied. Then it’s just awkward.

  197. I was just curious about what advice you would give. As a short woman, I actually skip the really tall men, all other things equal.
    Additionally, I think men in professions in engineering are probably the sexiest.
    I agree with athletic, everyone should take care of themselves physically, men and women alike.
    A liar will show himself to be a liar by word choice, tending to make more negative comments, any grown woman of quality will see through this, however, I think a certain kind of woman will fall for these trappings, just as a certain kind of man will use them–and I wish them happiness together.
    Want to get laid once? Be a liar.
    Want to get laid lots and lots? Be yourself.

  198. I think this is funny, I don’t blame the guy who wrote this, people do what they gotta do. If he does not have care then that is on him. regardless of what this website says. not everyone will fall for this trick lol. I am on pof and I do not fall these little games the guys put up. Now… if the girl dresses like a slut and and has no self steam and has no respect for her self. well! have fun with her. If someone gives it up too fast, that shows she probably does it with everyone. and not only online dating but that’s how it is anywhere.It’s sad and it’s hard to date people now a days. But If this works for you! then I think it’s hilarious.
    Good luck guys! remember ladies, if you present your self like a whore, most likely every guy will treat you like one. Stop showing your toto and tits. leave things to the imagination.

  199. This is really sad. Not only are you telling guys to play games and waste other people’s time and emotions but telling them to lie! Only small men have to add inches to anything. And as a tall woman I will call a guy out about his height and wonder if he lies about that what else is he embarrassed to admit? Thank goodness the MEN I have meet from POF have been real men and real intentions. However, I find it amazing that you can disrespect anyone. Just a word of advice what goes around comes around….it is called Karma. And you can call me fat if name calling makes you feel better but news flash we already know what kind of liar you are. Sounds like sour grapes maybe because no decent woman wants a sawed-off little liar like you.

  200. Hilarious article and comments!!! I joined Pof to get laid… everyone or so I thought everyone knew that is the hook up dating site second only to craigslists casual encounters. :). I have had fun. But man gotta rethink my body type. I put few extra pounds cuz I am but I am pretty darn sexy and can definitely do all of the things you say I can’t and much much more. Its was too much how many dudes came at me. Now I have more deep specific info on there about me and it has scared most of them away which is awesome! So now I get to pick the dudes I want to hook up with without feeling obligated to be nice to everyone who messages me. Hey I have been in relationships my whole adult life until recently I am 34 and ready to mingle. I will say though even though I do want to get laid…. the asshole thing really turns me off. And its funny how guys talk a big game but then get freaked out when u are sexually forward. So maybe I am different but I think girls totally know what they are in for when they join Pof. So its kinda sad that u have to come up with a recipe for how to get laid. But hey if it works it works!

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