The following excerpt from The Landmark Thucydides describes an epic sea battle between Athens and Syracuse (Athens invaded Sicily, where Syracuse was the dominant power). After some quick victories, the tide turned against the Athenians and put them at a disadvantage going into a major sea battle. If Athens fails to win, they will be trapped on the island with no way of going home. Here’s what happened:
Meanwhile the two armies on shore, while victory hung in the balance, were a prey to the most agonizing and conflicting emotions; the natives [of Syracuse] thirsting for more glory than they had already won, while the invaders feared to find themselves in even worse plight than before.
The fate of the Athenians being placed in their fleet, their fear for the event was like nothing they had ever felt; while their view of the struggle was necessarily as checkered as the battle itself.
Close to the scene of action and not all looking at the same point at once, some saw their friends victorious and took courage, and fell to calling upon heaven not to deprive them of salvation, while others who had their eyes turned upon those who were losing, wailed and cried aloud, and, altogether spectators, were more overcome than the actual combatants. Others, again, were gazing at some spot where the battle was evenly disputed; as the strife was protracted without decisions, their swaying bodies reflected the agitation of their minds, and they suffered the worst agony of all, ever just within reach of safety or just on the point of destruction.
In short, in that one Athenian army as long as the sea fight remained doubtful there was every sound to be heard at once, shrieks, cheers, “We win,” “We lose,” and all the other manifold exclamations that a great host would necessarily utter in great peril; and with the men in the fleet it was nearly the same; until at last the Syracuseans and their allies, after the battle had lasted a long while, put the Athenians to flight, and with much shouting and cheering chased them in the open rout to the shore.
The naval force, one way, one another, as many as were not taken afloat, now ran ashore and rushed from on board their ships to their camp; while the army, no more divided, but carried away but one impulse, all with shrieks and groans deplored the event, and ran down, some to help the ships, others to guard what was left of their wall, while the remaining and most numerous part already began to consider how they should save themselves.
Indeed, the panic of the present moment had never been surpassed. They now suffered very nearly what they had inflicted at Pylos; as then the Spartans with the loss of their fleet lost also the men who had crossed over to the island, so now the Athenians had no hope of escaping by land, without the help of some extraordinary accident.
Tomorrow I will share the fate of this army after their defeat at sea.
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I read about that, great battle. Back then no one could say you were not a real man. They were expert warriors. Today, not to put in a recruiting adverstisement; we sailors are starting to become more like that again. Yet before now, we were much more specialized.
The men involved in this battle were pretty adept sailors, and fighters. Considering their whole focus was to board and destroy if not capture.
Great read, will check it out.
You also forget to mention that they were being slaughtered in droves at the behest of powerful warlords, so I would refer to these guys more as ignorant livestock than “real men”.
So many spergs on this site.
Goo choice to focus on; the Athenian Syracuse campaign was undertaken after the death of Pericles and is a seminal example of how direct democracy can be high-jacked by the passions of the ‘mob’. Basically Pericles died from the plague that was plaguing Sparta besieged Athens…the resulting power vacuum saw would-be successors whipping up the mob’s (voters) passions with a crazy idea to invade Sicily…which eventually weakened Athens so much they lost the war to Sparta. It’s the first example professors give in history lectures about how Democracy isn’t always good.
This dipshit is so out of ideas to vomit that he’s resorted to posting excerpts of books we could easily pirate an read for ourselves.
I am loving the fact that Roosh is into Thucydides….his description of the plague in Athens is also timeless. Hope we get an article on that. Maybe his experience with Thucydides will lead him to Tacitus, Livy, Ammianus Marcellinus, Sallust, etc….there is no better way to learn what the Romans called “virtue” (virtus) than the study of history…
I agree! Studying history literally is the ‘sport of kings.’
Yes! I’ve heard that a few years back, in a rather old university somewhere in England, Thucydides was used as the textbook (I’m not kidding) in their Introduction to Politics course, and it was a great success.