1,864 thoughts on “The Alt Right Is Worse Than Feminism In Attempting To Control Male Sexual Behavior”

1. If they expect whites dudes to only go after white girls then they better have a plan to improve white girls cause last time I checked it wasn’t a too promising road to go down.

   1. American white girls are straight trash

      1. Most American women are.

      2. Sadly true. And the pathetic thing is they think their garbage smells like perfume.

         1. When really it smells like fish

      3. So it has nothing to do with the current orthodoxy or the sensibilities of women in the West, but the fact that they are White. Cool story bro.

         1. Don’t think he said they were trash BECAUSE they were white…no where in his statement was he placing the blame on why they were trash. He was simply stating his opinion that they were trash.
            Cool strawman, bro.

         2. White women are the discussion point of this article ….

         3. I could have sworn it was the Alt Right. My mistake.

         4. I really don’t even know or care about the alt right . All I know is some corny white men are trying to tell me, a white man , where I can and can’t put my dick. They are also getting mad that I refuse white knight for white women .

         5. You put your dick wherever you want, chief. If you want children that don’t look like you, your family, or your ancestors, and want to essentially end your family line, that’s your business.

         6. So I should have a kid with some white degenerate whore who’s ducked a whole football team so I can secure my ancestory? I don’t see any real Vikings around in the US but if make it over to Sweden I’ll make sure to have enough little ones to fill Valhalla

         7. Yeah I’ve heard things in Sweden are grand these days. Race doesn’t matter though, right?

         8. Nope the Norsemen only worried about the most beautiful from each race

         9. you should have just ended it with, “you can put your dick wherever you want”, because that’s the truth. not our fault women in America turned themselves into slobbering wooly mammoths.

         10. I can’t believe you are this stupid. “These guys who want to keep the west white are trying to control me.”

         11. Oh please , the majority of white males today are effeminate fucks. How about we work on un pussyfing them before try to preach white pride

         12. actually, roosh described the average swedish woman as a “tattooed burrito.” ukraine, maybe.

         13. my latina wife meets every one of roosh’s bullet points for a marriageable woman (virgin before she met me, strong faith in god, traditional, etc.) and yet these neo-nazis would have had me ditch her on the off chance i could have found a woman just like her with blond hair who doesn’t speak spanish. crazy stuff.

         14. Never really took rooshs advice on where and how to pick up women . I’m sure I could find one who could make a kid worthy to raid a village

         15. Nice catch bro.
             You’re taking all my upvotes in this article, you and some random.

   2. Exactly… Fuck those morons and their stupid controlling bullshit. I’d never even heard of this “alt-right” movement until reading this piece. Something new and and (almost unbelievable) every day, regarding busybody fools trying to limit guys’ choices. Did these goofballs directly crib their shaming hetero guy tactics from feminism/i.e., womenkind’s raw, distilled nature? The corrolation seems hard to ignore indeed.

      1. Who knows, I never really looked into them and now I’m glad I didn’t even bother, you really gotta be a skeptic of everything. The beauty of this site is you can just read some articles and comment sections and gain a new perspective or learn something new and move on with your self improvement rather than join some temporary mob online being a hypocrite

      2. Maybe you are pro-refugee rape too. Wouldn’t want to limit ISIS members sexual opportunities/conquests, would we?

         1. So you are against refugee rape not rape, period? Cool. And I like your ISIS fear-mongering. They are going to start raping “your women” too? LOL

         2. You seem to especially mad at whites. What kind of mud are you?

         3. Fear mongering? Nah, I read the book. You on the other hand are an idiot, coming to a mosque nearby no doubt.
            Maybe you could still buy a Yizidi virgin? You might have to perform an ultrasound on the mother to determine she’s a girl. Then again you prolly prefer boys.

         4. thanks. a massive strawman to reassure everyone that you WN types don’t have much of an argument.

         5. Yeah, because borders, languages and culture are trivialities when it’s time to stick your dick into something, I know.

         6. This “article” was a virtual strawman parade. Anyone who wants to have a civilization is a white nationalist and ally to feminists.
            One thing this article and its comment section have been very good at demonstrating however is that PUA’s whatever their race are barbarians.

         7. eh, you’re the guy saying that a white guy who is open to dating non-white women must, logically, be ok with arabs raping white women.
            what specific strawmans do you see in roosh’s article?

   3. Was at Vons this weekend with one of my girls who just so happens to be light skinned, black. In front of us were two white girls. And I could tell they were hating. But I just laughed inside because they both had an arm of tattoos, piercings in their lips, were about 200 lbs, wearing belly shirts and daisy dukes, and had coloured hair.
      Yeah…I’m gonna stick to dating who I want. I would love to date a white woman…but doesn’t look like that is gonna happen any time soon unless Zeus comes down and makes me look like David Beckham because every decent looking white girl thinks they deserve a guy like him.

      1. yea fuck them, it blows my mind women can be out of shape and look haggard as fuck as turn up their noses like they deserve whatever they want

         1. lol. this place sucks. Fat women with government daddy to feed them their every need. Men we must go on strike here. 0Take away the power of the vagina. Take away her power. Then we can take down the system, that is the REAL ENEMY.

      2. hahhaha

   4. That’s the problem with racial identitarianism. You “inherit” shit that’s wrong with strangers that you normally won’t want to be associated with.
      I don’t want to put myself in the same box with white Walmart people from some rural south where they are all morbidly obese and dumb as a post.
      Neither do I want to be in the same box with northern snarking urban hipster douchebags.

      1. I hear ya, I’m from lower Alabama but have lived all over including Boston area and California so it’s hard trying to explain not everybody is the same depending on where you’re from. I would meet people in California and they always seemed think I was racist as fuck whenever they found out I was from the south. Truth be told I think race relations are better in the south than most other places. I’m not saying there aren’t plenty of racist in the south but at least they tend to be open about it and you know where they stand from the get go while most democrats/liberals seemed to be two faced with a hidden agenda

         1. I can vouch for the South having better race relations.
            Here’s a deep dark secret from New York: people will privately answer any “why did you pay a quarter million for a 2 bedroom house with 8K a year property tax” question with something that usually says “Because the niggers and spics can’t afford to move out here”.
            But any one of them will point southward and say “there be racists”

         2. I get the same bullshit when I tell people I’m from Georgia

         3. Yea it’s odd, the media or whoever does a good job of making southern people look bad ever since the civil war, considering only around 5% actually had slaves and over 300k southerners went and fought for the north but they don’t teach those parts of history

         4. I saw a funny meme , I forgot where , but it went like this . “A conversation between a union AMD confederate soldier:
            Johnnie reb: “why do you fight ”
            Federal : “to preserve the union and end slavery . Why do you fight ? ”
            Johnnie reb : ” you invaded my state “

         5. Lol which is true and reminded me that I shoulda put “war of northern aggression” instead of civil war

         6. Nobody ever talks about Sherman’s March to the sea and the rape and pillage commuted by his army ….but I guess since all the rich white people owned slaves , just like in the north , it was justified.

         7. That’s true, I think in Vicksburg Mississippi they still have some tradition with church bells or something they’ve continued since the siege of their town and the losses they suffered that nobody mentions. It’s fucked up to think how off our history is being taught over all the years and not just that time frame

         8. Because history used to written by the winners , now it’s written by the losers

         9. Speaking of which

         10. The “schools” are better.

         11. Driving through, I intuitively felt black society is better developed in the south. I saw lots of advertisements of black businesses and positive black institutions.
             In New York the community support is lacking and the hate for whites is palpable.

         12. Same in California from what I saw, black people in the south are different from blacks in other parts of the country in some regards. You can walk into a black soul food hole in the wall joint looking like a redneck from hell and they’ll treat you like family and in some parts they self segregate and don’t want white people around. But overall it’s not nearly as bad as the media portrays it and people generally have more respect for one another than most other places I’ve been

         13. It actually happened. It was like this: a Confederate soldier, a regular young farmer’s son, had been taken prisoner by a unit of the Yankees who invaded his state. The commanding officer questioned him, no doubt trying to enlighten him about ideology and the like. He was surprised when he learned that the captive didn’t care one bit about slavery, which the officer had learned was what the war was all about.
             But if so, why do you fight, asked the officer.
             The answer: “Because YOU are here.”
             I guess he didn’t much like having his town looted and burned.

         14. Yep…living in Louisiana now and blacks and whites get along fine. In fact , there was a recent study that confirmed that there are less hate crimes in the south than in the north where everyone is at each other’s throats…

         15. The whole end slavery meme was very much after the fact. Lincoln himself said in debates he’d never free the slaves and it was widely thought he was going to ship blacks back to Africa at the end of the war. The war was always about power, money, and control.

         16. cool. i’m a non-southerner who’s always had an affinity for the south, largely because of the way the SJWs despise you. i figure if they hate you so much, there must be a lot good about you.

         17. I believe it, they have great food there too I just hate talking college football with those coon asses from the swamps that are always bringing up LSU wether they win or lose they’re gonna talk shit

      2. I would hate to be in a box with them…but, at least with the hipsters, i’d love to get in the octagon with them.

         1. Predictable outcome though.

      3. At least the rural people have identities and a community. It might be stupid, or might not be.
         The hipsters just latch on to ideas and meander through life never knowing themselves.

      4. You cant get mad at a black guy chasing white girls if you do go outside your race too
         Saying that necessitates kinship with random trash is a strawman that one would ironically find among northern hipsters

         1. It’s not about race, it’s about culture.

         2. That is actually completely incorrect but I will allow it if you acquiesce on this topic: it is almost impossible to make someone change culture

         3. Unless slut counts as culture. But generally I will stipulate.

         4. I disagree. It is difficult for a person to change culture, but not impossible. Also, culture can be contagious.

         5. This is incorrect. Unless you’re a denier of racial differences at all

         6. Culture is defined by race.

         7. Not necessarily. Often times Firemen or Military personnel of different races will have a lot more culturally in common with each other than with people of the same race but who are, say, accountants.
            The same goes with pro athletes.
            Race is one factor about culture, but not nearly enough to encompass the totality or even, I would say, the majority.
            People with no other outstanding parts to their character may rely on race as the pinnacle of their culture, but that is mostly because they have it already and nothing else.

         8. So would you say there is no substantive difference between a German raised in Wisconsin as a 3rd generation immigrant, on in Texas and one still in Germany? Interesting.

         9. I get your point, but they will, and there is a simple reason for it.
            A man boning a [quality] woman outside of his race can be perceived as that man conquering that woman’s race; on the other hand, seeing one of your race’s [quality] women getting boned by an outsider can be perceived as your race being conquered.

         10. in the case of a country, cultures in the same territory will never coexist in harmony forever – one will eventually take over and if white countries continue down the trajectory of their current birthrates, it will be third-world shithole culture before long and I don’t think the minority whites (our grandchildren) will be treated very well.. When you come to this realization, racial separation and incentivizing white people to have more kids becomes a perfectly reasonable position

         11. well said. i lift and stay in shape always, no excuses. i once worked in an office where the only other guy who didn’t have a pathetic, flabby, unmanly body was a black dude from alabama who these neo-nazis would despise based on his southern blackcent alone (“now we gots ta do dis…”) but he was a great guy and i bonded with him because he lifted too. i have trouble respecting a man whose boobs are bigger than my wife’s. heh.

         12. …Again, you manospherians are pathetically regurgitating the obvious here

         13. Your examples are sub-cultures within the greater context of American culture.
             Take a look at footage of football games prior to 1965 when White players were the vast majority and compare that to today. Were the players in the 60’s doing negro dances and ooga booga pregame huddle chants that were like something out of an African tribal documentary? Hell no they weren’t, but as more negros were accepted, the subculture of football changed into something that would have been unthinkable just 50 years ago.
             I stand by my original post.

         14. You are entitled to your incorrect opinions

         15. That’s very gracious of you 😉
             Have A White Day

      5. In the modern mainstream, your concern only applies to Whites, as we are the only ones who can be stereotyped in any way (either as toothless trailer-dwelling rednecks or SWPLs/hipsters).

         1. Good point. I’m sure AltRight bottom-feeders don’t sterotype blacks as “thugs”, Hispanics as “illegals”, middle Easterners as camel-jockey terrorists . AltRight is just SJW inversed; just as juvenile and imbecilic. The problem with you types is that you try to convince people it’s either SJW or you; truth is there are far more sensible options.

         2. I was making a point (an accurate one) about stereotyping that’s acceptable in the modern mainstream.
            Do I think all arabs are terrorists? No. I don’t really care though. They don’t belong in the West, certainly not in any significant numbers. I don’t want to live in Hamtramck, MI.

         3. You belong in whatever European village your great grand mother shat her kids out from. If anything, you’ve shown the AltRight has mimicked the worst traits you fault in mainstream society.

         4. Yeah no thanks. Right now you got these kebabs running all around Europe with their ficki ficki routine, having “sexual emergencies” and you still don’t get. Brilliant.
            America was never intended to be a multicultural hellhole. That’s not real history.

   5. You guys always say that but the stats dont back that up.
      It’s right up there with “dont marry a white girk, you’ll get divorces, marry asian”.
      But anyway if it is a nationalist movement then shouldnt they follow their own advice? Or should they marry outside their race and get mad at men going after their women?

      1. What stats? I’m not saying other races are perfect, there’s shitty people everywhere, I’m just saying not every white girl out there is gonna jump on the nationalist bandwagon and accept a bunch of rules the alt right gives them or make sure every white guy in America has a white wife to breed with and be loyal to. I’d rather give men the advice to go find something that makes them happy rather than miserable regardless of skin color

         1. Well let’s look at America, as far as racial choices go in this bad dating market, white women are among the better choice.
            And I keep pointing this out but how can one tell Tyrone to stop going after white girls if they let Chip sleep with an Asian girl?

         2. I don’t really care who sleeps with who and as far as marriages go in America I believe well over half end in divorce and a majority are filed by the women. There are good white women out there just like any other race but I don’t think there’s enough for white people as a majority in America to have a stable marriages and large families like in the past or like the alt right is hoping for

         3. And interracial are less likely to be happy so I’m not sure where you were going with that line of thought

         4. Just that I don’t really care what people do at this point as far as relationships go but I’m not sure I’d agree fully on interracial being less likely to be happy but if there’s stats to prove it then so be it it won’t bother me at all, to each their own

         5. Yes but if you’re an ethnic nationalist how can you dislike Tyrone wanting white women if you poach asian girls? In fact, this is a principled stand since it is easier for a white guy to get an asian girl than for a black guy to get a white girl.

         6. I agree with you on that cause I’m not that guy

      2. if the WN guys want to limit themselves to white women, fine. i think it’s a terrible strategy, especially if you want to find a good wife, but it’s their choice. just don’t tell us what to do.

         1. Again, white-white marriages are more stable than mixed. This is what I meant about you guys not knowing what you’re talking about

         2. we’ll see, i guess. my ex-wife was a petite beauty with long, bright blond hair and bright blue eyes. basically a neo-nazi’s wet dream, but also one of the most deceptive, narcissistic, and materialistic women i’ve ever been with. current brown-skinned wife is an angel, totally faithful, and constantly tells me how grateful she is that god brought me into her life. my money’s on this marriage working out better.

         3. Oh good, I didnt expect the naxalt. You’ve defeated me

         4. What’s a naxalt?

   6. Not at all. Bringing foreign women into the fold is a time-honored strategy (as in, millions of years old). Foreign men are to be eliminated.

      1. That’s why AltRight whites hate it. Foreign men are banging white women, and they’re not. This kills them. It’s not about principles, it’s about being butthurt they are low-SMV rejects.

   7. You win the prize.

   8. Not all hope is lost. There are still decent white girls to be found, especially in smaller cities.

2. Normally I would say you fell for the bait, but I saw first hand the dozens of threads posted to /pol/ that consisted primarily of ”’redpilled”’ and ”’enlightened”’ autists screaming for your death simply because your name is ‘Daryush’. Very little posters were defending you (more like pointing out the truth) and I would have dismissed the screeching masses as being trolls from tumblr or twitter. But now seeing these apparently ‘important’ people from the alt-right joining in I realize that there was no trolling. These were their legitimate opinions.
   As I’ve said before, the quickest way to reveal a feminist shill is to support any facet of male sexuality the feminists hate. Looks like the alt-right has removed their mask.

3. Very pleased to see this article – and I can only hope Matt Forney also sees the light.
   It’s a damned shame, but somewhat predictable, what happened to the flash in the pan alt right movement. So long as you and other neomasculine writers can successfully distance yourself from them, the evidence as to which group is more effective will be seen as to who continues to get the most hate from SJWs.
   Rock on, Roosh!

   1. Matt Forney’s on the same page.

4. Excellent. More often than not, these types are justifying their choices to marry fat, unattractive white women.

   1. I was at a friend’s graduation dinner the other night and some dude with the classic skinhead look (shaved head, hand tats, red suspenders) was there with a wretched, twice his size, land whale. I suspect he fell into this camp.

   2. This.

5. The people you describe are the same people who make all us other whites look stupid . Most of them are losers who can’t land a girl to begin with because they’re overweight , have poor social skills , and prefer isolation because of a deluded sense of superiority .

   1. Paging Mr. Ignatius Jacques Reilly…

      1. It’s a shame because I’m from the south . Proud to say stonewall Jackson and John mosby came from the lower 48 but I’m also proud Curtis mayfield chose to die down here and outkast is from my hometown.

         1. As much as I dislike the south (seriously, what is with the slow service??), y’all created the Muscle Shoals sound so I can never be too hard on you.
            The North has intolerable liberals, the South has intolerable rednecks. I think that leads to the conclusion that most people are just intolerable.

         2. From the south as well. And I 100% agree that white women are the most beautiful when they are properly taken care of. But sad to say…how far have they fallen.

         3. In all honesty all the intolerable rednecks are in the same group as those liberals . Just idiots with nothing better to do . In my experience racism exist on all sides . From the 5percenters in the nation of Islam , Jewish defense league , the AB , and ms13

      2. as a side note, the back story to this book is really ironic and funny in a dark way.

         1. They say write what you know…

         2. I meant how he killed himself at 31 with the idea that his writing would never go anywhere. His mother shopped out a carbon copy manuscript with no success. She eventually managed to convince some English lit professor to read it (I am assuming the same way Mrs. Gump got forest into school) and it wound up winning a Pulitzer. Then Belushi was supposed to play the main character. Died. Then John Candy was supposed to play main character. Died. Then Farley was supposed to play main character. Died.

         3. A fat actor curse?? Why couldn’t they have offered it to Jonah Hill before he got skinny??

         4. ha! Still time.

         5. I nominate Pauly Shore as the next “supposed to” actor to play this character.

         6. speaking of Jonah hill. There are like 3 actors that I call Jonah Hill. I am pretty sure they are different people…in that they occupy different areas of space in the world…but are metaphysically indistinguishable from each other.

         7. I haven’t heard that name in forever. Surely there has to be some people just as annoying but more present…like all of them.

         8. No. Kid Rock, in his acting debut.

         9. Hey, I like Kid Rock. Pauley Shore has zero redeeming qualities and makes me nearly ashamed to be GenX.

         10. Compromise. Let’s give it to Pauly first, and then offer it to Kid when the Weez croaks.

6. Glad they’ve finally been called out. Some of them are almost as shrill as SJWs. And I swear they have friggin Tourettes when it comes to the Jews.

   1. All these people who insist the Jews/Illuminati/blah blah blah rule the world and all of that drivel: if that were truly the case, why wouldn’t you want to align with “the evil Jews” and get in on their success instead of bitching about their omnipotent power? Nah, that makes too much sense for inbred neonazis.

      1. They need scapegoats for all their problems. They’re always looking for the man behind the curtain.

      2. Yeah roosh why haven’t you joined with anita and the feminist overlords?
         Gotta get in on that success you know.
         And never forget the sixty trillion who were raped in the holocaust

   2. I agree.
      For me it is sufficient to know as a starter that
      – they completely dominated and ran the bolshevik revolution in the USSR
      – They own the US media and pretty much run the country as well (ref Netanyahu’s 27 standing ovations in a one hour speech in the House of representatives march 2014)
      – they are notorious liers on anything from the holocaust to their claimed victimhood throughout history
      But they’re only part of the challenge.

   3. Yes, dont address the actual problems they have with Roosh. Just call them SJWs

      1. I said SOME of them are as SHRILL as SJWs. Please don’t straw man me

         1. You;re still ducking the real matter at hand for the sake of that absurd statement. A label with which you can dismiss, ironically enough a very sjw-ey tactic

7. This was extremely cathartic to read. These days, I can’t tell whether the people hating on me are SJWs, GamerGaters, or Alt-Righters; in most cases, they even employ identical insults!

   1. I watch a lot of different youtube channels across the factional spectrum and it’s starting to look like a death match out there.

   2. yep, everyone is just an SJW shill Skulls.
      Fact is that Johnson previously ignored allegations against Roosh because it was Feminists and SJWs making them

      1. You’re proving my point. The “skulls” insult regarding the memento mori I had at my old place was invented by SJWs a year ago while I was filming that documentary about Anita Sarkeesian. You’re repeating their words; if you hadn’t indicated support for an alt-right figure I would have assumed that you were a feminist.

         1. Maybe it’s because the insults are valid? Besides, people like Morrakiu leaped on the skulls thing first

         2. Get some culture if you don’t know what it is; RamZPaul has one too. And since when does Morrakiu have a problem with me? And again: it was the SJWs and Anita-bots who started moaning about it, then reinvented by atheistkult through Shoe on head.

         3. Ramzpaul doesnt dress like Anton LeVey and take on a serious demeanor

8. Dem white people must be abolished.

9. I do not see this as an unreasonable demand from the Alt-Right that you leave White Women alone for the time being until Progressivism is swept aside and the demographic depletion has been allowed time to naturally recuperate itself from the pressures of contemporary society. Considering Europeans are a global minority and genetically recessive.

   1. White people have been banging other people’s women since the time of the roman’s , come up off it

      1. Yup. After we blew up half of Japan…they already knew white men were gonna come in and fuck their women. So, they went ahead and made whore houses legal so Japanese could keep the traditional women to themselves and leave the hookers for white men to bang.

         1. Serious?? Haha… wow, I swear I actually read this somewhere before.

         2. http://www.nytimes.com/1995/10/27/world/fearing-gi-occupiers-japan-urgesd-women-into-brothels.html?pagewanted=all

         3. Didn’t stop me 50 years later!

      2. Exactly. Gene flow is responsible for much of human history — the pursuit of gorgeous new DNA that varies from your own.
         The hottest woman I’ve ever banged was in South America. She had the body of a bikini model and was an intoxicating mix of white, black, and indigenous blood. We smashed 4-6 times a day, no joke. I’m white. Today, when I look at an equally hot white woman, she seems plain by comparison.

      3. Yea, that’s why they say race mixing is bad for white men too you simpleton.
         You agreed with a commenter complaining that they were doing that.

         1. Where ?

         2. Right at the top. Where he was complaining that they want white men to marry white women

         3. Never said it was bad . Alexander loved him some Persians . Both had ridiculous empires and contributed much to the world .

         4. That’s the love of conquest. Not a great example

         5. Uh he said specifically he preferred Persian women of Roman ones …

         6. Didnt know that. Congratulations on the minutiae

10. The alt-right was always decentralized, and unfortunately it got infiltrated by the same 1488 crowd that ruins everything just like SJW’s ruin everything they touch.
    “I still believe that a form of nationalism is needed to defeat the liberal establishment that is run by sociopathic globalists,
    but it must be one that doesn’t mimic feminism in controlling male
    behavior. Looking at Donald Trump’s campaign, I see that his brand of
    nationalism seems to have the effect of uniting conservatives regardless
    of their race, so I’m starting to come to the conclusion that this man
    has provided the answers in the way that the alt right has not.”
    I’m working on this. Donald Trump and nationalists in Europe give us a blueprint. It’s a nationalism that doesn’t ignore race but doesn’t hyperventilate over it.

    1. “It’s a nationalism that doesn’t ignore race but doesn’t hyperventilate over it.”
       This 100%. The cuckservatives try to ignore race and the progressives/1488 focus on it and end up with race wars and purity tests.

11. Important thing to keep in mind Roosh, the alt-right movement is top priority for a lot of divide & conquer shills at the moment. Especially considering that you’re on the shit list for making comments critical of the (((tribe))) in the past. Any one of those tweets or examples could have easily been a D&C shill parading as a legitimate member of the “movement”.
    I follow “alt-right” Twitter a lot, and the vast majority of hate comments against you and ROK are from these types of individuals. Also keep in mind this “alt-right” stuff is hardly a cohesive movement, and everyone involved is in different stages of taking the redpill, so opinions aren’t going to be (or expected to be) universally the same.

    1. A movement that allows countless shills to enter their movement and hurt it is not a strong movement that deserves sympathy or protection from anyone.
       How many shills does the ROK/neomasculinity? None that I know of.

       1. It’s not like a gate or a door, no one “allows” shills into a movement. Shills are a fact of life in internet movements today – GamerGate is a very recent example. GG did a fantastic job keeping the shills in check for many months, but you can’t silence them completely. There were endless, ENDLESS attempts to divide GG into different movements, give it a different name, etc, and they never succeeded, but the comments will still always exist on display on the internet.
          And the ROK comment section, while certainly powerful, can hardly be compared to massive websites like Twitter or 4chan, in terms of where shills will focus their attention for the biggest effect.
          My main point is that cherrypicking internet posts from an amorphous, leader-less internet “movement” and then characterizing the whole thing from those is never a good idea. Then you end up with things like the GamerGate Wikipedia page, or wild claims that you are “pro-rape”.

12. What started out as a refreshing answer to the toothless conservative platform has turned into nothing more than a collection neo-Nazis and narrow minded racists. True colors were revealed a week ago in the aftermath of the meet up situation.
    Neo-masculinity is the most important thing we should be concerned with as men, and I in no way want that to be associated to with the kinds of idiots now rank and file in the alt right. Good riddance to these jokers!

    1. Neomasculinity is good for individual character, but it has a weakness in that it is not explicitly political (though it certainly implies political goals).
       The alt-right didn’t have a comprehensive, enthralling philosophy either, so it got subverted.
       We need to have a complimentary, explicitly political philosophy to go along with it, and I am working on coalescing one.

       1. Hear hear!

       2. Good point, and good work. I am with you.

13. A thought.
    I’ve noticed a lot of breast beating and AMOG’ing between the “Manosphere Leaders” as of late. Each one detracting the other, or vaguely doing so by smearing their readership or slant of ideology. This seems quite new and only over the last year or so, with I’m sure some exceptions. Rollo sits in his ivory tower looking down on ROK and casting aspersions on us lowly types who post here (no offense Rollo, I like your writing otherwise), Roosh comes out against, I’m guessing, the Heartiste line of the manosphere, and all take great joy in bashing some of the MRA’s. We are splintering over ego here folks.
    That’s the problem with hierarchies in this day and age. We have a common enemy, and a well organized one at that. Stop trying to be Top of the Pig Pile for just ten damned minutes, the lot of you “leaders”. We should be consolidating forces and planning out actions against the Left, instead we have “leaders” *across the manosphere* all trying to erect fiefdoms while trying to bombard other leaders and sites.
    EDIT: Possibly wrong about CH
    We have a few points where we all agree:
    Game
    Against SJW’s/the Left
    Want to counter the smear campaigns of our enemies
    That seems enough to put aside the prissy dirt kicking on each other’s shoes and get down to business.

    1. Exactly this.
       This nonsensical baiting and passive-aggressive insulting between prolific pro-men bloggers is absolutely pointless. I don’t understand how otherwise completely sensible and logical writers keep falling into this. Are they more concerned about clicks and reader count than making a real difference in society? This is shit that women do, not men.
       Based on this article Roosh, you’re certainly not exempt from this criticism either.

    2. I think there is no room for politics in the manosphere.

       1. Within our ranks, agreed. But as a political force to counter the Left, it’s necessary to outwardly align against the Left. It doesn’t take us all agreeing on race/religion/non-socialist economics/etc. I mean, look at the Left, those fuckers hate each other, but circle the wagon if you so much as breath that you don’t like (for example) LGBT “identity” crap (or whatever).

          1. Yeah, you’ve got a damn good point there with the left. Duly noted.

          2. It does make one wonder though…what kind of catalyst would cause the left to implode? Like you said, they have a LOT of groups that otherwise despise each other, but have circled the wagons to defeat the right.

          3. I think it’s money that does the trick there.

          4. I think infiltrating academia is a good place to start. Pose as one of them and then start dividing in ways that cut ties that cause wagon formation. And as Persepolis mentions, money.

          5. Become a professor/teacher? Hmmm….Aaron Clarey wouldn’t approve…How about just sneaking onto college campuses and posting anti-leftist flyers discrediting the leftist narrative of the week?

          6. They form squads to squash that kind of thing. They seriously do. I’ve seen Leftists comb campus at a university before, buying up every copy of a newspaper that had an advertisement for a speaking engagement of a man who was slightly right of center in his politics. Burned them all in big ol’ drums right in the middle of campus.
             So yeah.
             All I am suggesting is that they did to *us* starting back in the 1920’s or so.

          7. The problem is that AltRight types present their counterproductive quarreling with other groups as THE alternative to SJW. If you don’t support their views, which usually have nothing to do with the core issues men face, then you are a SJW. Their involvement does not aid in our cohesion against feminists. They would happily throw the 30% of so men in the manosphere under the bus for the favor of one white woman (who would turn around and vote for more refugees). AltRight adds nothing; they don’t belong in the manosphere.

    3. Infighting in the manosphere has existed since the beginning. This is what happens when writer and academic-types get elevated to leadership roles. Unless they learn leadership skills by getting wrung through the wire (like I think I have), they fall apart after growing to a certain size and make decisions which wreck their sphere.
       Even though different manosphere groups share overlapping belief systems, they are usually ruined by a lack of strategy, meaningful alliances, and long term goals. My actions against the red pill, MRAs, and now the alt right stem from those groups becoming subverted and then going full retard, to the point where any association with them starts to harm us and our goals. The alt right deliberately attacked us early this month when we were in bad shape, even though we share more common ground than not. Their petty, woman-like behavior has no place in any movement of masculine men.
       In the end, we have to maintain two battle-fronts, one from our existential enemy (the establishment), and the other from our neighbors who may have good ideas, but don’t know what they’re doing. The only people we have to count on as true allies our ourselves. This is why I wanted to arrange tribal meetings. No surprise they were attacked, since it would greatly increase our effectiveness. But there is a plan B. It just won’t involve the alt right. When they get attacked by the machine, they won’t drag us down with them.

       1. It wasn’t aimed at you “only and in specific”. Rollo’s recent vanity inspired mewings against the ROK meetups from the comfort of his academic ivory tower really pissed me off too. Heartiste just jumped on the bandwagon for his own reasons (of the three, he’s the one I go to least, the constant race shit is off putting after a while). I do think that there are ways to consolidate our strengths without having all of this splintering over the differences we have. Reject the white nationalism, ok that’s fair especially from your personal perspective, but take away white nationalism from Heartiste and he still has a whole lot of good material to use.
          What others “think” of us really is irrelevant in the end. The GOP never learned that they will never fall into the good graces of the Left. They could be perfect angels with a unified message that one hundred percent backs up the Left, and the Left will still smear them and tear them down. Never say a racist word in your life, but even pretend to hint at opposing one single Obama policy and “Rayyyyyciiiiis!”.
          Personally I like the lot of you rogues and rascals, and take value from each of your sites and perspectives, and discard what has no value to me personally. One hopes others can do the same.
          We’re dealing with rabid dogs here, they really don’t care what we do or don’t believe outside of how we assault the Feminine Imperative. At some point it doesn’t matter any longer what their perception of us is.
          Just my two cents.

          1. Heartiste has pretty much destroyed itself. Look at the comments in 2016 vis a vis the comments from 2010. The place is a hotbed of race hate.
             Even worse, a lot of race-baiters are authoritarians. They worship strongman politics and would love nothing better than to feel Trump slap his cock against their faces. They even defend Putin because strength is strength and blah blah blah.
             Their assumptions are just as destructive to a democratic society as the assumptions of feminism.

          2. ” to feel Trump slap his cock against their faces.” We call that a Papa John’s Meat Lovers now.

          3. Strong man politics is the natural extension of Game.

          4. Or the left and progressive stack have so broken the men that any “solution” we come up with is going to have to draw on the same pool of broken men and everything is doomed to fail and the armies of darkness will march across the faces of the earth.
             This is why I sleep with an AR15 in the bed. At least my hair covers the dents it leaves in my head.

          5. That doesn’t make it right. You wanna live under Chavez? Castro? Democracy for the win, my friend.

          6. I’m just not fond of splintering. It’s one of those things that destroyed a lot of organizations that could have done good work to stop these collectivists.

          7. Democracies are a transient form of government, vacuums in which strong men form. Over and over again.

          8. The “race shit” is serious business. If europe falls to the muslims they are coming for you next. You have no problem with your daughter marrying a bearded man who sticks his ass into the air multiple times a day?

          9. What I’m saying is that we shouldn’t make enemies of men who share most of our tenants. I’m actually of the mind that we present a united front against the Left, and leave the bickering on the inside of the ‘firewall’. Shutting out entire swaths like a lot of manosphere “leaders” are doing as of late is counter productive.

          10. Men compete, you know this. And groups of men compete as well. Black men are not your friends, even if temporarily useful as allies. Muslims less so.

          11. The Founding Fathers had a lot of different ideas that they hashed out and didn’t agree with each other on. What they did was figure it out and come to an arrangement that allowed them to maintain differences while still being united against the British. This is what I’m suggesting.
              All that’s going on now is bickering, splintering and turning into a hundred million little “alt groups”. Divide and conquer at work. It has nothing to do with “competition” and everything to do about ego with most of these issues.
              Maybe you don’t get where I’m coming from but I’m saying do NOT dismiss the alt right groups and consider them not part of the overall movement.

          12. So far as the different ideological groups, agreed. But remember that the founders were all white men.
              Maybe my european perspective is making me see things a little differently so let me explain.
              In germany a 13 year old girl was raped for 30 hours straight. You have heard abut Cologne, a thousand women were sexually assaulted including, according to official sources, one or two rapes. So we can safely assume it is more than that. And a ten year old boy was raped with the excuse that the muslim who did it had a “sexual emergency” (it had been several weeks since the last time he had sex).
              In Sweden there are increasing numbers of violent confrontations between natives and immigrants, and the cops and court side with the invaders and there are a number of no-go zones where cops and firemen can’t and won’t go.
              This is the reality I live in. The mere thought of thinking of these people as allies turns my stomach. And if we fall then you are next, and by that point there will be no stopping them.
              Blacks are just as bad, but less organized. They are not your friends. The further south a people come from the less rational and empathetic they are and the more they act on impulse.

          13. You get lots of Putin/Trump jock-riding on RoK

          14. Democracy is garbage. You can have a government that functions on democratic principles, but the purer it is the more you end up with a society controlled by the lowest common denominator. This is why democracy has been criticized by serious political thinkers since the very beginning.
              Add in media control by a hostile tribe and the importation of voters by one side to electorally swamp the other and the legitimacy of democracy is completely gone.

          15. I found Heartiste early on in the world of Game after sosauve forums back in the early 2000s.
              Heartiste will always have a special place in the manosphere for delivering concepts like Evolutionary Psychology when Mystery was running around with guyliner caked on his eyes.
              Heartiste helped to shape the overton window within the PUA and Game with heavy handed revelations and observations about females and feminism. I feel that’s what hes doing again with race. There are ugly truths about race that many don’t want to hear, but they are truths nonetheless.
              Red pill men are fully aware of the differences in gender, that does not make us misogynists. Red pill men must now buck up and realize there are difference in race, that does not make us racist.
              Ugly truths are all around, they don’t stop at feminism.

          16. Not many of those franchises up here this analogy makes me hope it stays that way!

          17. “Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.”
              Churchill

          18. The raped boy had internal injuries. The rapist went straight back to enjoying himself in th pool.

          19. The invasion of Europe really should have shaken anyone on this website awake to the importance of race, it shouldn’t be a big leap to make, but you need to realize the right vs left fight is just a proxy for the Europeans vs its surrounding countries war

          20. Exactly, even if they stand united against the left and multicultural rape of Europe, what do you think will happen once/if they finally get the attention they deserve? I believe the religious right will beat out those concerned with maintaining culture, and those concerned with maintaing a safe space for the native culture will beat out the manosphere.
              Men compete, it’s what do they do, but men with a religious or cultural motive will compete with more fervour than those trying to protect

          21. “Democracy in Europe now means a country run by jews.” – Ezra Pound
              I’ll take Pound over Churchill any day.

          22. It’s the same thing in the USA. Just look at what people are saying here. They think they have a right to Whites’ homelands, wives and daughters, institutions, right down to our genes.
              That has always been a declaration of war, as has mass migration, historically. It will end that way.

          23. That’s why multiculturalism and diversity will fail. Too many competing groups and zero shared national interest.

          24. Since you’re in Europe, I’m curious how you think it will end. I wanted to return, but then found it was just as bad, or worse, than the USA.

          25. War and poverty.
              Even without the immigrants, western countries can not pay for themselves. The states will run out of money soon, likely around 2020. When that happens, a bunch of people on welfare who have no other places to go are going to turn criminal.
              Add immigrants who mainly come here to take our money on top of this, and you have a perfect storm.
              And I’m still not sure if I don’t wanna be here to see it.

          26. So Kai Murros was right? He’s been predicting this stuff for a long time. He seems to think Europeans will win in the end, however.
              I’m half-Swedish, so I mainly pay attention to Sweden, but it looks like the whole of Western Europe is getting ugly.

          27. Sweden is one of the worst european countries so far as immigration. But your homeland is your homeland so that doesn’t help much. But yes, the entire west is following the same pattern.

          28. How can you claim to know what Black men are thinking, as a non-black man?
              It’s this kind of ignorance that puts people off.
              Two of my best childhood friends were white guys and I’ve never had a problem with any other race.

          29. Basic pattern recognition. One of the skills whites are better at than blacks, incidentally.

       2. So what next, a tirade against Christan men? Seems like blatant self promotion at the expense of other people’s religion and culture. Anything that gets between you and your next notch gets burned down and you expect to be a leader? Of what? A train?

       3. So I’m not the only one finding this in-fighting to be a little “feminine”.

       4. Part of the problem is that people have a hard time separating rivalry from infighting. I have a half-written article talking about the inter-service rivalries (I’ve seen it between an Army man and a Marine), yet they can still combine their strengths and different strategies to effectively destroy an enemy. If we can come to an understanding that shooting at each other is different than bickering while one feeds ammo into the machine gun the other is firing at the enemy. The enemy is numerous and has formed seemingly impossible coalitions between Elites, SJWs, and militant Muslims. The last thing we need is to take each other out for them.

          1. Military branches, perfect analogy. Wish I’d thought of it first. Well played sir.

       5. Perhaps, but keep in mind that the alt-right is not limited to dedicated neo-Nazis
          I imagine those are the people giving you the most shit

          1. It’s not. But they are loud on twitter.
             Interestingly, Andrew Anglin (a neo nazi) told Greg Johnson that the definition of rape was too feminist-y for him in the comments section of the article.
             However he still said white nationalists should not read Roosh’s Bang books because it would be too cuck-ey.
             Not an unreasonable position in my opinion. Especially after he said RoK’s content is “objectively good.”

          2. Correction: AltRight WAS not about stormfronters. I think you haven’t paid attention recently. Even top NRX’ers like Anissimov have bemoaned the bandwagoning of bigots who are overwhelming the original thinkers.

       6. >soon
          http://i.imgur.com/RLOfL37.jpg

       7. Take out the handful of stupid game articles and your remaining wise thinking pieces are all Critical White Nationalist themes.
          Culture, migration, values, psychology, history?
          Who exactly do you think is your readership?
          Rappers?
          Muslims?
          Incas?
          Whats happening with Trump and Europe etc is a lot bigger and alot more important than stupid rape or feminism or game etc Roosh.
          Baring all of us for the BS of a few is stupid, you know that.
          Andrew Anglin himself defended you when you were down, as did alot us, myself included. This whole argument gets me sick.

          1. Yes, it was a very low blow. Not only because he attacks the alt right because of a few but also because most men here are closer than they realize.
             We need to stop splintering. and Roosh will have to face the reality that most of his viewers will be nationalist anti-democratic europeans, which is pretty much what all those alt-righters he seems to criticize are.
             It seems like 5th grade bullshit to me. Cucks are triggered by raising consciousness in whites, it’s not going away. It’s here to stay: Many manospherians are leaning more and more pro-wite. Just look at Heartiste and Forney. And they seem like the last kind to join this camp.
             Infighting doesn’t matter. European revival does. And it will happen. The pro-whites this guys hate and call names are not an accident, they are the natural evolution of the man taking the redpill, first women, then jews, etc. We won’t stop just at gender relationships.
             Purple pill people will have to accept this or lose relevancy.

          2. Get this out there.
             

          3. I defended him as well – although acknowledging his serious problems – before he wrote this shit, because I have found genuinely good content on this site, and have recommended it.
             This piece was so intellectually dishonest and full of shit. The kebab really came out here.

          4. Jumped the kebab?!

          5. Haha, perfect way to summarise this. I am now very embarrassed though that I ever defended this guy. Ah, fuck it.

       8. Precisely. In-fighting between manosphere groups? AltRight is not in that conversation. They include men, women; anyone ready to believe in victimhood and scapegoats. They have NOTHING to do with men creating a better life for themselves.
          NeoM is about improvement; AltRight is about white knighting every time something happens to a woman, and spending all day on the Internet typing screeds against muslims, blacks, whatever-the-fuck. At least MRA and other branches try to do something positive for men. AltRight types would sell men out in a heartbeat if it meant currying favor with white women, the same ones who invite in refugees and go for homeless guys who front tough rather than these keyboard jockey ‘white activists’
          AltRight, NeoReactionaries (NRX) use to have some compelling perspectives on history and our situation today when Moldbug was guiding the movement. As you pointed out, without a credible leader, the movement gets subverted – in this case, by lowbrow Stormfronters who think they are getting something done by circle-jerking on Twitter. Masculine? I think not.

    4. Game to do what? Inspire my sister to be a good wife or turn her out? Which motive you have determines whether I count you an enemy.

    5. I feel like odd man out….and maybe that is a good thing. I have no idea who any of these people or movements are. Alt-Right I only know through this site, but couldn’t name a single person. No idea what AMOG, Rollo, Heatiste are.

       1. AMOG? “Alpha Male of Group”, a Game term, not a human being.
          If you like a decent level of intellect, check out Rollo’s site:
          http://therationalmale.com/
          The archives from Year One are pure gold.

          1. I will bookmark for my next flu. I always look forward to a few days of getting just sick enough to ground me but not too sick to enjoy the break

          2. You post 100 comments a day on ROK you don’t need a flu to make time to read Heartiste or Rollo

       2. The manosphere, this is just a corner, a small one.

          1. I mean, from context, I get it. I have just never bothered to read any of them and have no idea where they stand on anything

          2. Heartiste was started by a PUA blogger called Roissy. Now it’s a group of writers. The evo psych stuff is great; the very best, and it’ll help your game hugely. But Heartiste lately has been also pushing really hateful racial stuff under the guise of HBD (human biodiversity). I’m all for a discussion about the differences between races, but now it’s turned into a Klanfest day-of-the-rope kill-all-the-Jews hang-the-negroes thing.
             Rollo Tomassi. He’s not anonymous. Good insights.

    6. This makes me think of the Greek city states fighting each other for domination while the Persian empire was still expanding.
       😉
       Indeed, unity above anything, I’d say.

       1. Only because Cyrus untied them because he was the strongest in fighter

          1. Maybe, haha. But my point was that it took the city states a while before they finally united against a common enemy. I should have articulated that better.

          2. Maybe ? Read your history

          3. The point I was making wasn’t about my history.
             🙂
             But if you want me to go into what you said… I honestly don’t even know what you meant with ”strongest in fighter”

          4. Cyrus the great untied the tribes of Iran ,through war ,and built the Persian empire …..

          5. He did. As did any other great empire.
             But I don’t get what you are trying to say.
             EDIT: Ok, I think I get it. Yes both Greeks and Persians waged wars to become stronger.

          6. Thank you

    7. When did Heartiste ever go ballistic on ROK? I like the guy’s ridiculously florid writing
       But internal conflicts are practically inherent to masculine spaces – if we rooted it out we’d probably stop being men

       1. You know what? I think I may have mixed him up with somebody else actually. Will alter my post accordingly.

       2. Never seen him bash ROK as far as I’ve seen

    8. Heartiste is with Roosh in many recent posts, and he has one that is very similar to this.
       Even that’s from CH “Feminism is a movement that aims to maximize female sexual choices while minimizing male sexual choice.”
       Who is not with Roosh is a hypocrite pig who has taken the race pill while openly ignoring the sex pill. Is unfair swallow one biological truths and not others.
       For one dropers: the question of genetic preservation: accept Roosh as a white lider a man who is going to save more white genomes in our side than genomes can “pollute” in our side is a great economical inversion.
       He with us can fight the invaders while having one wife or two, but we without us are going to have hordes at the gates. The first is profitable from a genetic “purity view”.
       Not to talk about the origin of european men, a Neanderthal, Middle East, Iranian(formerly more white looking) mix, who under hard selective pressures come to be the most incredible being known, if we keep the pressures, Roosh’ genome will contribute to our exquisite traits while being shaped by.
       Always regarding he as an exception and a exception under strong selection, such leadership, patriarchal behaviour and so.
       https://i.imgur.com/3wjOWjMl.png
       This nazis need to learn history, statistics, biology, and economics

14. Roosh, nationalism IS race!!! being racially exclusive in all things is essential, so for you to equate the white nationalists with SJW’s is childish, and displays your “wanna-be-white” insecurities. anyone who advocates for interracial sex as roosh does is himself a SJW, as IR sex is a major tenant of the SJW’s, the left, the globalists, and the joos. ROOSH, please stop accusing others of what you do/are.

15. Just Roosh trying to shore up his revenue along with his toadies Aurini, Can’t Forney, and Co. He wants to create some new tradionalist brand while holding onto his PUA books revenues. Make no mistake Roosh and the Feminists love one another. They ping off each other for outrage factor to drive interest and yes money. That is all there is to this game, money. Neither side stands for anything higher, and both despise anything that stands for virtue. Wasn’t too long ago a real patriarchal society would have driven BOTH feminists AND Roosh from their midsts.

16. We brown people help you brown people and you fvck us in the ass!
    Just kidding, time to hone in on the ideals. Everyone on this blog should stand up for himself. Stick to your guns and be a leader of your personal lives.
    Hope ROK stays alive for awhile but from the looks of it, it’s slowly decaying. Need to reform and move on boys!

17. Culture is fine as long as it’s PUA and not white (or Christian)? I’ll put you down as a barbarian.

18. White females in america are a disgrace to their race. You can have them. I try to keep an open mind, because I’ve met european women who feel different. So I think it might be more cultural than racial. But I’m in america so that’s my reality. Sure you can say the top 15% of white females in america are different, its not fair to generalize, but the reality is if you’re alt right in america then you are validating low quality women just because they are white.

19. What do they even mean by “white” nowadays. Irish didn’t used to be considered white and Mediteraneans were considered a lower form of white. Curious what they look for on that genetic test out of 24,000 genes. And what’s with the cuckhold obsession, are they fascinated by that or what.

    1. Shut the fuck up you absolute moron, take your biology denying autism to salon.

       1. I’m not denying biology. I’m saying there are different kinds of white. Triggered?

          1. That is fair. While GoJ is correct about genetic markers there are some very specific questions. What about a blonde haired, blue eye german who happens to be jewish? Or how about Italians who many new Englanders still don’t consider white. What about Spaniards? How about Catholics? I agree with you here, culturally, even if not biologically, just saying “white” is pretty meaningless”

          2. I’m a Yankee come from one of those old New England towns where the French (old immigrants) talk about Greeks (newer immigrants) with moderate disdain like they are some other race.

          3. I’m still not convinced judaism is a race. Trumps daughter converted to judaism for purposes of marriage. I also know a jewish guy who converted to christianity for marriage. So that’s a characteristic of a religion, not a race. But when jews get together in group drinking they talk like they think they are a race. Maybe there’s a term in between religion and race, like a tribe?

          4. I think a big part of it has to do with cultural identity. FIremen also get together in groups to go drinking and talk amongst themselves like insiders in some club, as do professors, as do hunters, Brooklynites, union members and, for that matter, people on ROK.
             In general, people who have a shared background which other people don’t have an insight into can seem conspiratorial because they speak a language others know.
             I am a mutt and have 0 connection to my race (which is part French and part Italian, Lithuanian and lord knows what else) however, when I am abroad and meet another New Yorker or if I was in a bar and met someone who I happen to virtually know through this site I would feel a connection not dissimilar, presumably, to two germans who can talk about how their parents dressed them in traditional costumes and made them go dancing as kids.

          5. exactly. Places like Lowell MA still have enclaves of the old French who would put greeks, Italians and Portuguese in the same category..
             To this effect there is a good movie about the early formation of the CIA called the good shepherd.
             In it there is this amazing scene with Joe Pesci as whichever mob boss the CIA tried to get to knock off Castro.
             Damon, total Yale, Skull and Bones, early CIA wasp goes to see him.
             They have an amazing and telling exchange
             Pesci: Let me ask you something….we Italian’s, we got our families, and got the church; the Irish, they have their homeland Jews their traditions; even the niggers, they got their music. What about you people, Mr. Wilson, what do you have?
             Matt Damon: The United States of America. The rest of you are just visiting.
             When people make claims about being white or being American I think it is important that they remember that this is, to this day, the prevailing attitude of a lot of people…many with a disproportionate amount of power.
             Not saying it is good or bad. No judgment from me. But to ignore it is foolhardy.

          6. Roger, we are in accord on the latter. I will check out the film, sounds like my cup of tea.

          7. It is a pretty cool film. Not too political. Kind of a good story and I always find the formative days of the CIA to be interesting. It isn’t great, but has some gems. I put it in a category with the Tailor of Panama with Brosnan. Good fun.

          8. oh, by the way, a still hot Angelina Jolie in that one….she was disgusting already, but at least young and her character was a proper woman so she was dressed in that proper girl with slutty thoughts way.

          9. The blacks were here before the large influx of Irish. If the Irish gave their children bizarre, made-up names, dressed outlandishly, and spoke in slang nobody could understand, we’d still hate them too.
             Muh Irish…Salon tier.

          10. Read Gilad Atzmon. He explains this very well. They’re mostly a tribe.

    2. There are clear genetic markers, down to the point that your “tribal” lineage can be seen (Gael, Germanic, Scandi, Italian, etc). What those are I do not know, I know what I am without scary genetic crap, heh.

    3. A White person is anyone target with accusation of ‘white privilege’ and anti-racist rhetoric.
       A White country is any nation targeted for mass immigration and diversity so that the third world pours into EVERY White country and ONLY into White countries.

20. This article is nonsense. Whose trolling who here???
    If that’s the shallowness of your commitment to the alt-right, then TTGH
    (Take your toys and go home)

21. Great article, Roosh. Says things I’ve been thinking about the alt-right for a bit now. I used to support them since they were espousing anti-establishment viewpoints I think everyone here could agree with. But the hate for anyone who wasn’t white just started to creep in more and more. I can’t support a movement that may very well want to hurt or kill me because I’m only half-white, or worse to my sister, and that may do the same to my parents. I have no desire to see white people cease to exist, and I’m willing to do my part to fight against leftism if possible. But not if my family is at risk because of choices my parents made of their own free will.
    Unfortunately, Roosh, whether or not the alt-right becomes the dominant form of nationalism, I think that guys like you and me still stand to lose a lot more than we stand to gain. White men have been taking shit for a long time, and I understand their anger. But I’m afraid the anger is going to be blinding. I fear that more than anything else.

    1. There’s not hate for anyone that is non white, you literally pulled that out of your ass.
       But you are right, the blowback from white men is going to be blinding.

       1. “There’s not hate for anyone that is non white.” Are you kidding? Read Heartiste and the comment sections. Look at what Matt Forney’s been doing lately.

    2. If the corny ass Matt forney dude is the best they can muster I wouldn’t be scared . Most of the extremist groups are only big talk.

       1. Matt Forney is a return of kings guy you absolute moron, he’s PUA and from your side, he has nothing to do with us.
          He is also a great representative of what the average user on this site looks like, we’ve all seen your meet-up photos.

          1. Soooo, how often do you look at those photos? Frequently?

          2. Come to our next meet-up then and put us in our place . I’m sure you’re just another AB loser who did time for pumping out fake id. You got a celly that made you his bitch and when you hopped out you got yourself a shitty shamrock or some bullshit

       2. I used to like Matt Forney, but now I see him rapidly going down the Stormfront path.

          1. Never liked him , always thought he was full of shit

    3. hite men have been taking shit for a long time, and I understand their
       anger. But I’m afraid the anger is going to be blinding. I fear that
       more than anything else.
       I share that concern. Here I’m pretty forward about being ticked off that “I” am the target of insult 24/7 in the media and politics, being basically an English-Scottish hybrid. But I have self control. I understand that a black or Asian neighbor has to be judged as an individual and that regardless of stats and mean scores of (pick your metric), each individual defines himself and can defy the “norms”. I understand statistics and am a realist on those too of course.
       There’s a niggling concern I have however that a lot of other white men are not going to be so forgiving. We get very, very scary when we get pissed. It’s easy to forget that in the age of pastel shirts and political correctness.

    4. The alt-right does not equal white nationalism.
       White nationalism is a part of the alt-right that has become quite vocal.
       ROK is alt-right.

       1. I had always thought we were the alt-right, but then the WN’s co-opted it.

          1. -anti feminism
             -anti multiculturalism
             -anti globalism
             -pro Trump
             -race realist
             -critical of Jewish media figures
             We are absolutely the alt-right. These are all articles written by Roosh, by the way.

22. [email protected] all the overweight balding beta white guys in the comment happily agreeing with the Semitic Muslim who writes articles insulting them and their women.
    You guys getting ready for your bi-annual trip to Thailand I hope?
    Lmaoooooo

    1. I get approached by white women I wouldn’t want to fuck with your dick. What am I supposed to say? I can’t fake attraction.

       1. Sorry mam I am going to the third world to find a nice brown skinned girl who speaks broken English?

          1. You think english is native language of white people?

          2. Uh yeah, I do, English comes from England and is the native language of the vast majority of western white women.

          3. Most european cultures don’t have english as native language.

          4. The hell you say! Yes they do! For example, in Germany they call English “Deutsch”. And in Italy they call English “Italia”. They think that they’re getting one over on us, but they’re not fooling anybody. This is why whenever they feign ignorance of English all you have to do is talk louder. I thought everybody knew this.

          5. I speak american, my neck is red white and blue. lol

          6. haha finally someone who thinks like I do. I just love when people say we speak English. I tell them to go to England and see. We speak English like Mexicans speak like Puerto Ricans.

          7. I’ve been to England many times. I don’t know where you’re from, but as a Midwesterner we tend to speak an almost monotone and quite understandable dialect across the English language spectrum, unlike some gent from Birmingham or York chewing his way through a sentence. I don’t feel out of place at all talking to or being understood in England proper, neither in grammar nor cultural references, at least until we get down to local slang which differs from town to town no matter where you travel.

          8. This is truly excellent.

          9. you might want to have that checked out. It seems like sun burn, puss and possible gangrene

          10. an odd factoid, some years ago some linguistic anthropologists figured out that the English accent around the time of Shakespeare was closer to modern day Arkansas than you would think.

          11. That’s actually rather true. We also use a lot of words here that have long since discontinued or fallen out of favor in England proper. I can’t recall the last Englishman I’ve heard use “betwixt” in a serious fashion, but I can line up a wall of Appalachians that will hand you the word without fail every time.
              There was a period from the 1700’s through the 1800’s (not precise dates of course) where England went full force with the fad of making English as much like French as possible, to the point of absurdity. It’s as if they detested the very Anglo Saxon germanic roots of their language. Don’t know what that shit was all about, but it didn’t happen in the States. Result is we still use “old” words here at times.

          12. I blame William the Conqueror and his Norman hordes. England for the Saxons.

       2. “No thanks. I’m not into bestiality.”

    2. You forgot “basement dwelling” and “small penis”, hon.

       1. Those are stereotypes, I stated facts, we have all seen photos of ROK meet ups, the primary audience for this website is middle aged overweight effeminate white males.

          1. I’m almost tempted to click on your Disqus profile and read your other comments but I’d rather take a guess as to the type of troll you are. It’s more fun this way.

          2. Sweetheart, no ego here, but I’m top 2% in male looks. My mother and sister have been print and runway models. I’m sure there are other readers like me.
             Would you like to get together for a drink to see exactly who you’ve been insulting?

       2. Have we arrived at the moment where he will call ROK readers a “Men’s Rights Group”?

          1. Why are you pretending like the user base of this website isn’t primarily comprised of overweight middle aged white beta males?
             We have seen the meet-up photos, we know what you look like.

          2. I attended a meet up . Your assumption is very far off haha

          3. White man…not fat..am balding…am middle-aged. Can I be in the meet-up photo?

          4. lol… wonder if Matt Forney might be white separatist?

          5. I wasn’t aware that there were pictures that we’d all seen, either.

          6. He disappeared on me haha

       3. Doesn’t Roosh live in his Mom’s basement?

          1. Not that I’m aware of.
             This is going to seem weird, but sometimes, get this, I go visit my mother at her house. She lives fairly close and I like to pop in and say hi from time to time. That whole “she’s my mom” thing and such.
             Now the strange part comes in where I reckon’, and I’m probably going out on a limb here, that other men visit their mothers from time to time as well. Weird, right?
             heh

          2. It was in the British paper The Daily Mail…only asking….If I did at least it would be rent free.

          3. Only he can say for certain, I was simply under the impression that he was visiting his mother when the morons with the camera arrived.

          4. I read on HuffPo that he got kicked out of his mom’s basement and now he’s a vehicle dweller illegally using the parking lot of an undisclosed tech company. The BBC repeated it so we know its true.

          5. I lived in my Mum’s granny flat year’s ago…even claimed the rent off the council for it…don’t think it was on the BBC though.

    3. ^ proof that feminists and SJWs have alt accounts all over the Alt-right and are using them as an outflanking move on neomasculinity.
       Nice try, but they are going to be exposed.

    4. You upvoting yourself? And don’t knock Thailand.

       1. I think it’s mandatory if you’re trolling.

23. Screw white women AND their culture/religion/families………right? Then lament the decline of the West. Oh, the irony.

    1. What have white women done for me…? When american men don’t struggle to answer that question, maybe we can resume the discussion.

       1. You are only feeding into the division of men and women. PUA/MGTOW on one side and radfems on the other.

          1. You are only feeding into a racial beta male mindset, validating female behavior because of their race. I’m not going kiss some overweight feminists ass because she’s white. Feel free to do what you want.

          2. Nice straw man there. No one asked you kiss overweight feminist asses because they are white. Just don’t be a fucking douche that has no sense of identity other than MUH DIK

          3. Except that 2/3 of white american females are overweight, of the remaining 1/3 maybe half of those are feminist. So that’s 5/6 of the population. Enjoy your sense of identity.

          4. And what got us there? The sexual revolution was a huge part of it. It’s not like fat feminists give themselves a dicking. Men are are part and parcel to this problem. The state of women in the US is a reflection of the state of men and vice versa. That’s how this shit works. PUA faggotry just feeds this disastrous sexual culture.

          5. I didn’t create the problem, and white american women aren’t receptive to change. If you want to prioritize race as the most important feature in your mating strategy, then you might have to settle for a fixer upper these days in america. Good luck getting her into shape, and neutralizing her feminist hatred for men. I just don’t like to struggle with that. That’s your choice, nobody is stopping you. Why do you care what I do?

          6. That’s precisely the mindset I’m talking about. WHY DO YOU CARE WHAT I DO? Because you don’t exist in a vacuum. Your actions as an individual reflects on the group. It’s very short-sighted thinking. PUA is just as much of a cancer as white knighting is. You didn’t cause the problem but you keep compounding it with your actions.

          7. Unless they are mentally ill, women are very receptive. A fuck and chuck isn’t helping anything.

          8. One could respond that you keep compounding the problem by pedestalizing cunts because of race. So we will have to disagree on that.

          9. No. Not all whites are worth saving. Because a woman is white, does not mean Nationalists will white knight for her. Some are just cancerous dead weight. So it’s time to change the social climate for both men and women to not only behave but improve themselves.

       2. Having a civilization without both sexes is an impossibility as the West is demonstrating daily.

24. *deleted*

    1. I wouldn’t say the alt right reeks of feminism or female primacy. I would say they give a pussy pass to white women only.

25. “From the rumors I’ve been hearing, a number of influential alt right members are indeed homosexual. They’ll go on and on about the Jewish question—and attack you if you don’t—but ignore discussion of the “homosexual question” and its role in wrecking societies. Now you know why.”
    **BOOM: Headshot**
    We’re seeing history repeat itself. What other nationalist movement was secretly run by homos and perverts?
    Hint: they had very stylish uniforms with long black boots.

    1. One of my favorite films of all time, Cross of Iron, touched on this very topic:
       STRANSKY: In other words, you prefer the company of a man to that of a woman?

    2. Interesting that he doesnt go into how homosexuality wrecks societies beyond infecting one another with AIDs.
       It’s a symptom, not a cause

    3. I disagree with Roosh on this. AltRight are not homosexual. They are sexually frustrated and endure traumas when white women get with black guys, Hispanic thug-types; they are shocked this would happen. They go home and beat off in desperation. This is the emotional core to AltRight; not homosexuality.

26. This is needed criticism, but I think of the alt right as a big tent. While many in the 1488 crowd would like to dominate that tent, there are other folks in it too. For example, I’m a nationalist and more of a traditionalist, but I don’t go in for the white purity stuff. I’m not worried about identifying myself as being part of some movement. Rather, my political views are on the right, but they’re alternative to the mainstream. So, I guess that makes me alt right.

27. A movement dedicated to racial preservation doesn’t want people to race mix? What a shock.

    1. If you don’t want to race mix, don’t. What he’s pointing out is that you’re trying to impose your demented beliefs on others.

       1. Cry more

          1. I think it’s quite evident who’s crying.

28. This is inconsistent with your recent articles in favor of nationalism and tradition. The preservation of nation, culture and tradition requires that most breeding and child rearing occur intragroup. This isn’t to say every intergroup relationship needs to lead to a lynching but does suggest a norm in favor of intragroup relationships is desirable and socially beneficial.
    The extreme nature of the vitriol some have directed at you is a result of the threat posed by genocidal levels of immigration and the extreme intolerance it requires in order for a nation to survive. If the USA were 99% WASP with closed borders, relationships like yours might just raise a few eyebrows and head shakes. Look at more homogenous Japan. Most Japanese would prefer their daughter not screw around with foreigners but most wouldn’t raise a fuss. Some would just dismiss it as quirky.

29. Before tackling this post, I will state facts about myself really quick.
    I’m a non-white Latino. Born and raised in the degenerate filth that is NYC. I am both a fan of Roosh’s work and how he attempts to expose the decline & hypocrisy of modern folk, and I am also a fan of the “waycissst” Alt-Right.
    Altrighters know this.
    I think Roosh and ROK (and those he inspired) have done AMAZING things for the restoration of western civilization and masculinity. And I understand this “beef” is purely for exposure and $$$$$. Hence the hilarious & obvious baiting comments from Roosh riling up white folk with shit like “i don’t care about white people’s future” and describing in vivid detail how he has sex with white girls.
    And I understand why Alt-right are purists in the sense that race-mixing is factually bad (results in lower IQ for white folk, higher chance of stillborn for black & white couples, among of a bunch of other blowbacks miscegenation brings to civilization).
    And thus, I understand why they’d hate Roosh.
    Now on to the post:
    “The alt right has gone from a possible political alternative to a frustrated mob that wants to control the sexual choices of all men.”
    This isn’t it at all – they simply want to make sure white folks don’t miscegenate away their genes that have taken literally tens of thousands of years via natural selection. Roosh clearly understands this, but for the folks out there that don’t know Roosh trolls for their clicks/$$$; the Alt-right feels miscegenation is degenerate because it is factually unhealthy for their white people & genes.
    Thus, they have every right to oppose it – it’s for their survival. You would too if you were white or had genes as valuable as theirs.
    The argument that they try to control who Men have sex with is as “strong” as me making an argument that PUA/Neomasculinists want to control the nature of women because they’re just unhinged control freaks (by writing and promoting endless shaming of fat landwhales and tatted women with short hair, etc etc.)
    Clearly this isn’t the case, so making the argument that altright tries to control like feminism does is pure clickbait (which will no doubt be effective).
    “Once their sexual control objectives are reached, the alt righters will then move to controlling your friendly and casual relationships. You will not be permitted to associate with someone whose 23&Me genetic test result fails to meet their standards. I wish I could say I was exaggerating with these statements, but they openly boast about these rules, which are often featured in many of their memes.”
    Their goal is to secure the genetics and thus future of white people. Who cares? Why is that bad? It isn’t. I’m a latino with MANY Alt-right followers and they’re all cool as fuck with me. Prominent Altrighter FinMin told me:
    “Shitlordism knows no race.”
    So this whole “Altrighters hate all non-whites” is silly. They just hate low valued people – which happens to be most 3rd worlders/non-whites.
    White people are a global minority, and are being slowly exterminated by jews. They need to fight back, because without white folk at their peak, civilization and advancement end. Period.
    Africans playing in mud huts still in 2016 nor muslims beheading folk like it’s the medieval times sure as hell would have NEVER gotten us to the moon any time soon. Neither would us latinos lol.
    I’ve tried to tell most of these folks that Roosh trolls for exposure and really isn’t too serious about his white comments (otherwise he wouldn’t spend so much time and money writing and exposing the decline of the west, and how to fix it etc etc) but they never listen – they insist he’s an anti-white kebab hellbent on white destruction lol.

    1. White women in america wrecked themselves. I didn’t do it. I don’t have to take responsibility for fixing damaged goods. Good luck with that.

       1. They didn’t do it themselves. American women and civilization as a whole has been indoctrinated by jews for nearly 50 years now.
          Feminism, hollywood, news, media/entertainment, and now social media.
          All product of jews, all products used to pollute goyim/gentiles.
          If you want to make a difference, boycott all TV/hollywood/social media/video games, lift heavy and get rich to make a difference. If all men do this, women will follow THEM and traditional civilization will return.
          Women follow strong men, and betas follow women.
          Do the math.

          1. Your first 3 paragraphs hit home like a hammer. Damn hard to argue with.

    2. “[Altrighters] hate low valued people.”
       I this does a great job of summing up one of the biggest underlying values of the alt right.
       Low value can be both universal (low IQ), as well as situationally dependent (cultural incompatibility). For example, there are white middle-easterners, but they have a non-Western culture. And there are white Americans who are genetically inferior specimens, with low intelligence, weak bodies, and un-virtuous characters. These white people make our country weaker, and we’d be better off without them.
       On the other hand, there are black Americans who are genetically superior specimens, who have Western values, intelligence, strong bodies, and virtuous characters. They make positive contributions, and we are better off for having them in our country.

       1. The problem with letting in “high valued non-whites’ in white nations is that it will always bring conflict/racial tension. And of course, miscegenation.
          That “high value non-white” is better off in his own country, trying to make his nation as strong or stronger than white nations.
          As for the low-valued white folks, of course they must be kept out. ONLY of prosperous white nations though. Let these kinds stay in a nation where they can be useful to other high valued whites. As slaves/low wage workers perhap? IDK. They would likely end up in jail or dead anyhow if you think about it, might as well make the contribute somehow.

          1. I believe in meritocracy. Deport all whites or otherwise on welfare. The majority of welfare recipients are white. Deport the meth addicts- the majority are white. You don’t draw the line on race- thats not meritocracy. Deport low-value people.

          2. Or you could just return to india/china/israel and leave us alone and let us fix our problems without your input which is obviously motivated by jealousy and hostility.

          3. So when do we start on the gas chambers?

          4. Actually, Black folk are just 13% of the U.S. population yet eat up 28% of SNAP benefits.
             At 13%, they commit 52% of the murders in this country.
             Don’t get me started on latinos who lead in rapes in the U.S.
             And we do deport white folks, dickhead. It’s called JAIL.
             Where do you propose we send “Low valued” white folk? To africa, you shitstain?
             Sure we can send low valued brown folk to jail too instead of to their homeland, but guess what? You’ll end up creating even more conflict among low valued folk in a homogeneous civilization of whites because Proximity + Diversity = WAR.
             If we keep jail racially homogenous like society, it would be MUCH more safer and have less wars/conflict. Just like society is. Check Japan.
             Your whole notion of just having high valued folk regardless of skin color is a noble and LOGICAL proposition ON PAPER – but in REALITY, Nature fucks that shit up hardcore. Biomechanics are God and doesn’t give a shit about logic or emotions.
             Biomechanics dictate that every single time humankind has tried to force a racially diverse nation/culture, it eventually gets utterly destroyed from within by the people themselves.
             Forget about it.

          5. So you agree with deporting the majority of people who are on SNAP – who are white? Cool, we’re in agreement. Send them to Africa? lol. Send them to Slovakia; low-quality whites will be fine in the slums there. Keep hacking at it Skeeter, I mean “Mr. Hispanic.”

          6. “””So you agree with deporting the majority of people who are on SNAP – who are white?”””
             Wrong, shitstain.
             According to data from the U.S. Department of Agriculture, which administers the program, only 40.2% of SNAP recipients are white.
             That means the rest (roughly 59.8%) of those benefits go to non-whites. Thus NON-WHITES eat more SNAP benefits than whites do.
             (Almost 28% are black, 10.3 percent are Hispanic, 2.1 percent are Asian and 1.2 percent are Native American – I don’t know the exact % for muslim/middle eastern folk).
             So your whole “MAJORITY OF SNAP R WHITE” myth goes right out the window.
             “Send them to Slovakia”
             Oh so “deport” them to another WHITE nation. LMAO! What a retard. Thanks for proving my point. White people deserve to be in their white nations.
             What do you think is worse, jail or Slovakia?
             “Mr. Hispanic”
             Means a lot, I’ve always wanted to be white :- )

          7. Something like the notion of miscegenation is important to consider, but most people focus on genetic makeup, rather than heritage. Over time, even a racially homogenous group will change their genetic makeup. Ideally, natural selection would cull the weak and the stupid, making the group stronger over time. However, modern living is sufficiently easy enough to remove natural selection. Even when looking at a single racial group, many of the best and brightest have one or two children, while degenerate trash breed like rabbits.
             Heritage is something that can withstand a trickling of foreign blood. Imagine a single Japanese woman marrying into an all-white society. In a few generations, her descendants will be indistinguishable from the white natives. Crucially, her descendants might remark with some passing curiosity that they have some remote connection to Japan, but the overwhelming part of their heritage will be shared with the white natives.
             By only accepting superior specimens, in small quantities relative to the native population, a country could enrich itself with high-value foreigners without long-term disruption to, or division of, the population’s heritage. Furthermore, preferential acceptance of certain groups can further maintain that stability. (The Japanese immigrant could be balanced by an immigrant or two from a European nation).
             What we’ve seen in the US and in Europe is large-scale immigration that is disruptive and divisive. Foreigners are coming in such numbers that they are not blending quietly into the fabric of society. Worse yet, many of them are inferior specimens who make negative contributions to society.
             As for low-valued white folks (or any folks), society can be made stronger by meritocracy, economic opportunity, the almost or total dismantling of welfare, and the strong rule of law. Murders, rapists (in the real sense of the word, not how progressives use it), serial thieves,etc. should be dispatched quickly. Those who are sickly will die of natural causes. Those who work will have a reward for their work in proportion to the value of their work. Even the humblest contributor has a place in society, and is worth more than all the parasites combined.

          8. “By only accepting superior specimens, in small quantities relative to the native population, a country could enrich itself with high-value foreigners without long-term disruption to, or division of, the population’s heritage. Furthermore, preferential acceptance of certain groups can further maintain that stability. (The Japanese immigrant could be balanced by an immigrant or two from a European nation).”
             A brown person – whether, african, indian, whatever – will NEVER have descendants that naturally look white. When a white person miscegenates with a brown/black person, their white genetics are muted and dominated by the black ones. No black and white couple has EVER had – in the history of humankind – a WHITE baby.
             And IF that has EVER happened – I challenge anyone to prove it has – then it is SUPREMELY, unfathomably rare.
             Therefore, the notion of letting blacks/brown people into white nations and having them breed with whites just because their descendants will “eventually” be white again is false and dangerous. By allowing brown/black folks into white countries, and allowing them to breed, you are essentially erasing white genetics that took about 50,000 for nature to create.
             Keep brown folk out of white nations, period. Have all the high value/high IQ brown folk breed and create in their OWN nations. Not come into the US and miscegenate and create inevitable racial tension & war.
             As for the low value white folk, meh. You can still use them for the dirty jobs. Mentally ill folks however, throw em in an asylum. They are still people’s families. Dispatching them can cause serious turmoil within/among the high valued white folk – which would lower their efficiency. Perhaps even cause revolt/rebellion.
             But I do believe that in a society that is run correctly with little to no racial diversity, and kept away form the hands of jews, mental illnesses & people of low value would almost be nonexistent.

       2. I agree with this. Deport whites on food-stamps, blacks on foodstamps and the rest. Deport meth addicts, those committing incest, alcoholics, people who beat their wives in trailer parks. Draw the line on how much they contribute to society.

          1. I agree with your desire to make society stronger, but much of that can be done with meritocracy, economic opportunity, and natural selection. Rather than deport people on food stamps, just take food stamps away and give them jobs instead. Anyone who doesn’t want to work should be free to starve to death if they wish. If someone wants to kill themselves with meth or alcohol, let them do it and make room for fitter specimens.
             As for wife beating, the situation is sufficiently complicated that the government should stay out of it, except in the most extreme cases of maiming or attempted murder. If an adult (man or woman) wants to live with someone who hits them once in a while, that’s their choice. If someone wants to leave, they can leave. Women like to complain (about everything), but most women who stay with an abusive husband do so because the relationship still provides them a net positive (resources, romance, etc), even with the occasional slap or punch, They make the choice to stay. Furthermore, life isn’t a Lifetime movie. There are a lot of women who start physical fights with their husbands (punching, slapping, trying to claw his eyes out), and then they run crying when he hits back.

    3. Good comment

       1. Thanks, I wrote a revised version of it here:
          https://donlegaraccireviews.wordpress.com/2016/02/22/lets-dispel-with-the-notion-that-the-altright-hates-all-non-whites/

    4. Friend, the alt-right sees you as a useful idiot the same way the left views feminists. Once you’ve outlived your purpose they will turn on you.

       1. Naturally. So what? Human beings are tribal. I’m not white, they are. They’ll instinctively stick to their people and I will stand by mine at the end of the day.
          Doesn’t mean I’d let 3rd world filth exterminate one of the most advanced species this world has ever seen. If jews and arabs get their way, we’ll be set back close to 3000 years. Who wants their children to live in such times when we know we’re capable of so much more.
          This is why I oppose polluting and killing off the white race.
          Without them, we would all be living in mudhuts with very little technological/civilization advancements from 3000 – 5000 years ago.

       2. Look at it this way. If the alt-right gets its way, the non-Whites will live in their own countries anyway, so even if we do ”turn on them”, nothing will really happen.

    5. Roosh never advocated mixed-race breeding. He’s rarely even talked about breeding except to say that he’d like to breed with a woman of similar skin tone.

       1. This is exactly what I tell AltRight folk.
          But it’s silly for Roosh to condemn alt righters for wanting objectively healthy purity.

    6. Haha. Keep talking “Hispanic”. Your comment history is a joke- you’re obviously a trailer-dwelling hick. From your comments: “Guess what faggot, in this WHITE nation that is AMERICA, white lives are more important than anyone else’s.”.

       1. “you’re obviously a trailer-dwelling hick”
          It is an honor you think I’m hWhite.
          “From your comments”
          I still stand by what I say. In white nations, white people are the most important. Just like in your home, you and your family & loved ones come before any strange guests. Or do you cuckily put strangers before yourself?

    7. “they simply want to make sure white folks don’t miscegenate away their genes that have taken literally tens of thousands of years via natural selection.”
       The problem with this mentality is you cannot control this and it’s extremely naive to believe otherwise.
       I’m not going to limit who I want to fuck just because someone else doesn’t like it. I don’t have a racial preference, I do however aim to fuck the best looking woman I can. I enjoy having that freedom as do the women who also participate of their own free will.

       1. “The problem with this mentality is you cannot control this and it’s extremely naive to believe otherwise.”
          Of course you can. You do so by creating a white nation. Securing its borders to keep out non-white foreigners. And raising & teaching children to avoid racemixing by teaching them the FACTS about racemixing and its proven harmful consequences (higher chances of stillborn babies, lower IQ babies, social blowbacks & shame, high % of domestic violence among mixed couples, proximity+diversity=WAR, etc etc etc). Teach them the magic 14 words essentially.
          Can that be done in THIS generation or the next? Fuck no. Maybe like 3 to 5 generations from now if this country gets back on track and white folks stop being brainwashed by jews into being degenerate, unmarriageable and cuckolded.
          “I’m not going to limit who I want to fuck just because someone else doesn’t like it.”
          If this nation wasn’t the degenerate filth it is today, brown folk fucking white women would be & condemned and hanged no ifs ands or buts.
          Brown dudes want to feel entitled to white pussy all of a sudden because they are able to get away with it in the last 50 years or so? If the majority of white males today weren’t such low-T, emasculated cucks, they kill you. Period.
          There still exist fathers out there with decent testosterone levels and genetics with sons who will die to protect their good white women though. I know quite a few. Families that don’t even entertain the thought of even being friends with brown folks.
          You can call them racists or bigots, they don’t give a shit. They’ll do anything to protect their white women and the white women will do anything to adhere to their father’s stern wisdom.
          I’m talking Amish level family tightness and adherence to the bible/traditional/euro values.
          No brown dude is sticking their penises inside those white pink pussies, I guarantee you that. Not Roosh, not you, not any non-white PUA or even non-white celebrity.
          And no, the “FUCK YOU DAD” white whores don’t count.

30. The refugee crisis has made race, religion and immigration more of an issue than it has ever been. That means there are huge opportunities here to demonstrate to the general public exactly how feminism connects to immigration / multiculturalism ; how for example a policy of effectively coercing women to abandon motherhood in favour of the compulsory career is having appalling effects on the reproduction rates of european / western countries and dictating the need for population numbers to be boosted through immigration. That opportunity will be lost if blinkered race zealots refuse to look beyond the end of their noses and play this is as a race war, which is exactly what the elites / globalists would want
    There are already cracks beginning to show in the scandinavian bloc of socialist / feminist countries: norway has today announced it won’t accept refugees from sweden if the latter ‘collapses’ under the strain. Enormous pressure could be placed on feminism if only the blame for europe’s insane policies on immigration could be directed squarely at the socialist feminist governments who’ve been responsible for pushing multiculturism, open borders and indeed anti-white self-hate.
    The danger though is that the alt right, seeing its women are in danger from all those nasty refugees will just double down on the white-knighting, and with it fall into hairy arms of the feminists who helped caused this nightmare in the first place

    1. Miscegenation really isn’t that big of a deal-only 8% of new marriages are mixed-race. Feminism is a much bigger deal, with white women mimicking masculine careerist lifestyles leading to negative birthrates and mass immigration. If feminism and immigration were halted, whites would still be an unbelievable majority in 100 years.

       1. People need to realise that feminism makes mass immigration necessary. It makes women infertile

31. Those alt-right Nazi assholes, believe it or not, come out in full force everywhere–especially on ROK–if you bring up anything to do with Jews or Israel. All you have to do is look at the comments in Matt Forney’s article on Israel posted here last month.

32. Western men should refuse to reproduce or give women a good banging. Make her suffer for a man. Then lets see how fast she comes on her knees asking for forgiveness knowing what she is.
    IDK about you guys, but porn is filth. And I don’t need a woman. Lol what a joke. its the other way around here.

33. Patriarchy is a conspiracy by old men which necessarily controls both male and female sexual behavior. I society which doesn’t control the sexual behavior of both genders is categorically doomed. The AltRight’s goal is to impose sustainable sexual behavior on both sexes, while RoK’s goal is to ensure that the sexual anarchy Western females enjoy can also be enjoyed by males.

    1. Might I trouble you to actually read the various articles here and not just cherry pick the ones that give you Confirmation Bias?

       1. I’m responding to this article’s thesis, which is quite direct. Roosh runs RoK and while the project has been all over the place, the direction he’s now taking it in has been spelled out very clearly.

    2. Anarchy is not an objective of this site and is not preached.
       In fact, most of us seem to be outright disgusted by the idea.

    3. I see reading comprehension is not strong suit. You may want to read various articles on this site before making generalized statement that make you look like a fool.

34. They will come here and make accounts.
    They will try to blend in and act like one of us.
    They will insert their beliefs in subtle ways and try to subvert our ideas and weaken our foundation.
    We have to remain steadfast in our own ideals.
    This last bastion of sanity cannot become Stormfront.

    1. >article on the JQ and race realism
       It already has

35. 1. In your ideal nation, will white men be able to consensually sleep with non-white women? YES
    2. In your ideal nation, will non-white men be able to consensually sleep with white women? NO(because obviously there wouldn’t be any non-white men)
    I hope we got that settled.

36. Good thing my glossary is a work in progress. Might have to add an entry on neomasculinity.
    https://thymosbookclub.wordpress.com/

37. The more I read sites like ROK, TheRationalMale, D&P, etc, the more I refuse to identify with any group. As soon as you do, it seems that the group goes off in left field and does something you don’t agree with. I am my own person and I’m not going to follow any political/social imperative; I’ll make my own decisions and form my own opinions based on the facts and arguments provided to me. That being said, if I absolutely HAD to identify as something (related to this discussion), it would be Red Pill as it seems they mostly are interested in the facts and are willing to admit when they’re wrong. I encourage every man to drop their labels and critically analyze every situation without any lens.

38. The encroachment of white nationalism into the alt right is natural reaction to the identity politics and multiculturalism imposed by the left. White nationalist concerns are well found and have some merit, but it will not bring together people to fight the left, it will only divide. The current figure heads of the alt right that attack Roosh are trying to consolidate power, while at killing any traction alt right can get into general population. We will not win the cultural war against the left with such ideology. We want to make better men and women, regardless of there skin colour. Politics is downstream of cultures in the words Andrew Breribart.

    1. “White nationalist concerns are well found and have some merit, but it
       will not bring together people to fight the left, it will only divide.
       The current figure heads of the alt right that attack Roosh are trying
       to consolidate power, while at killing any traction alt right can get
       into general population. We will not win the cultural war against the
       left with such ideology. We want to make better men and women,
       regardless of there skin colour.”
       Nobody is going to win against the multi-cult by “uniting” when the equality and union of sexes, religions, cultures, and people that aren’t equal and should be separate due to conflicting interests is the multi-cult.
       “Politics is downstream of cultures in the words Andrew Breribart.”
       Breitbart was a naive fool and was disposed of to make an example for everyone intelligent enough to see it, and just to make it really obvious, they killed the coroner too.
       https://www.rt.com/usa/coroner-arsenic-death-breitbart-456/
       The powers that he annoyed create and shape culture and proved it by taking him out and shaping the narrative around his death.
       Breitbart to the TPTB, “Knowledge is power.”
       TPTB reply, “Power is power.”
       

       1. “Nobody is going to win against the multi-cult by “uniting” when the equality and union of sexes, religions, cultures, and people that aren’t equal and should be separate due to conflicting interests is the multi-cult.”
          Of course not all cultures, religions, sexes, and people are equal. The only compatible cultures in the West are those with Christianity as the primary religion. Christianity is the backbone of the progress we see in the Western World and her decline is associated with fuck up situation we have today. Males and females have physical and mental differences due their sex. I want to live in high trust society with culture that does not reject God, reality and nature. My comment is aim at the problem with white nationalist is he see only skin colour and ‘genetics’ as the only way to be member of the alt right. We got enemies in front of us, we do not need enemies in the back of us.
          “The powers that he annoyed create and shape culture and proved it by taking him out and shaping the narrative around his death.”
          TPTB painted the target we need to take back. I prefer to live to see TPTB to be destroy.

39. White nationalism, in its pure form, amounts to pussy pedistalization.
    Putting pussy on a pedestal is a DLV, it actually makes you less attractive to women. This the pure White nationalists are causing feminism by giving unearned power to white women.
    The ideology is a failure, if the ideology drives women away.
    There is a sex red pill and there is a race red pill. Different people are different. Like seeks like. Diversity + proximity = war. But, sexual reality Trumps everything else. Denying reality causes pain and failure.

    1. I can’t tell what you are saying, other than that you think that choosing to breed (breed, not just fuck) with a specific race is a DLV?

40. Dafuq did I just read? Who the fuck is not understanding that you don’t shoot the guy in the trenches next to you?
    @Roosh: Religion and culture are both controllers of sex. That’s what is required for your Neomasculinity movement to have any effect or meaning. Understand that Patriarcy controlled male sexuality, and controlled female sexuality even more. Religions also did (and at least Islam still does) the same damn thing.
    You MUST embrace sexual control, because it’s the only way you’ll have a civilization left to practice neomasculinity in.
    I’m calling out the BS on both sides here. There are still #cuckservatives in the alt-right; they revealed their colors when they took cheap shots at you.
    Further, the race component in the alt-right is correct, and necessary. Because civilization, culture, religion, and pure survival. That’s your cheap shot back at them, calling them racist.
    That’s SJW behavior.

41. You see, what happened is a gay guy names Greg Johnson wrote an article saying that Roosh’s critics have a point.
    It can be found on counter-currents. http://www.counter-currents.com/2016/02/roosh-really-is-a-rape-advocate/
    This matters because it undermines the “heterosexual angst” angle and since Greg had previously spoken/written well of Roosh it makes the idea of any personal vendetta hard to sell as well
    And as I explained to Forney, the “attention whoring women” angle needs a better representative than Shiksa Goddess.
    1) she isnt altright
    2) she gets made fun of in the altright for being a flat earther
    3) she actually wants Greg Johnson out of the movement that she isnt in

    1. The white nationalism angle seems irrelevant as far as the Greg Johnson article is concerned. It is just badly written and argued and reflects a lack of reading comprehension. Roosh phrased things in a hyperbolic and controversial way but basically he just wrote that he had sex with girls who had some drinks and that this means they wouldn’t have been deemed by feminists to have consented. He didn’t say they were passed out or that he used force.
       Depending on your point of view, Johnson is either white knighting or arguing for a return to more traditional and genteel relations between men or women or arguing that women are incapable of agency and society needs to be structured accordingly. Presumably, the same arguments he makes against Roosh would apply to a white American in Poland doing the same things. He should have stuck to those arguments rather than buying into the feminist definition of rape. Then his article wouldn’t have been an incoherent mess.

       1. He actually went into Roosh’s macho sex writing style: is he telling the truth?
          Is it macho sex writing or a factual account?

          1. I don’t think it matters. Johnson says that if Roosh is telling the truth, he raped. I’d say that, if he is telling the truth, he only committed rape if you accept the feminist idea that sex with a woman who has been drinking is rape. It would be another matter if he said these women were unconscious but he said they were still walking and talking. They had just had some drinks. There is plenty of room to argue his behavior was unethical, socially undesirable, self-destructive, weird, etc. But it doesn’t sound like rape unless you take the extreme feminist definition of rape.

          2. And I’m with Anglin on this. I dont think that’s rape either (unless we’re being legalfags).
             However Roosh’s issues did not end there. There were the two Polish accounts, and his apparent fetish for thinking he’s a “beast in the woods fucking white women” or something

          3. That makes him a guy with a white woman fetish, not a rapist. If Johnson wanted to argue against foreigners having sex with white women, wants native men to intervene, wants women screwing foreigners to be shamed, etc. then he should have made those arguments instead of parroting an extreme feminist definition of rape.

          4. I dont think he is a rapist. I disagree with Johnson on that. But Roosh’s other comments (and intentionally egging on the alt right) make it hard to be consistent in our principles and abide this.

    2. Is Greg Johnson actually homosexual?

       1. He has never denied it, and Roosh thinks he is so for the purposes of this argument it undermines the notion that Forney started: that female attention whores were the cause of this

          1. He has never denied it … He may have neglected to deny the accusation, but I want to know what evidence Roosh has for making it.
             The second part of your response is so convoluted and reminiscent of an insider Byzantine high-school dispute that I as an adult am unable to parse its meaning.

          2. Let me break it down for you…
             Forney tried to say women attention whores caused this… but Johnson is gay… so how?

42. Whatever happened to those meet-ups?
    I was looking forward to them.
    **** Apparently that comment was enough to get me blocked. I must have triggered someone. ****

    1. Most went on unofficially and changed locations/times/dates.

    2. If feminists hate the idea of meet-ups so much, they must be a good thing right?

43. I’m like Paul Ramsey. Just because I think Roosh is a smart guy and has perceptive points doesn’t mean I agree with him 100%… And that is good.
    IVe often told commenters who wonder why writers here conflict sometimes that disagreement is a feature not a bug of masculine r discussion.

44. The problem may well be self-correcting
    Because a sufficiently nationalistic country is not going to be diverse enough to warrant this much racemixing fears in the first place
    The people giving you shit are really the white supremacists of old. The new recruits that make up the alt-right are more realists and pragmatists who align themselves against equalist ideology
    I don’t think the new alt-right is against miscegenation in every case, they’re just against it being propagandized to the extent where it becomes an attack on a country’s ethnic identity

    1. A country has to have an ethnic identity in the first place, to be attacked. That identity, once gone, isn’t coming back without some old school slaughter, if at all. Avoiding such an outcome in the first place requires shaming miscegenation, and being selective about breeding partners.

45. Hmmm… A rapist kebab piece of shit being butthurt by people trying to restrain his sexual urges?
    Kind of figures…
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3434708/Iraqi-migrant-raped-10-year-old-boy-swimming-pool-Vienna-told-police-sexual-emergency-hadn-t-sex-months.html
    When the good day comes, we’ll hang you next to feminists 🙂

    1. Nothing on this site promotes the Islamic migrant invasion of Europe, and certainly nothing on this site promotes legitimate rape.

       1. Well, except the rather lax interpretation of consent promoted by its founder. And the fact that his model of male-female relations more readily resembles that of the cloaca he came from rather than western tradition.

          1. It’s rape if a man forces himself onto a woman who does not willingly consent; there’s no instance of Roosh having done that in his experiences. If there is, please share.

          2. And please don’t cite the story of Susan…

          3. it’s hilarious than on the one one hand you’re dreaming of hanging people including every feminist in the land – 7-10% of women …we’re talking millions world wide who you intend to hang by the neck until they are well and truly dead in a virtual genocide of feminists (+ roosh) and on the other you’re worrying about “a rather lax interpretation of consent promoted by its founder”. I assume for the ones you haven’t killed you’ll be creating a safe space so that their feelings aren’t hurt

          4. Was that directed at me? I never for a second believed the hilarious, fake story of “Susan.”

          5. Hah, no. I was adding a bit to the end of your comment.

46. Though it sounds ridiculous, Roosh is not exaggerating one bit about the whole 23andme/DNA test obsession that a lot of these guys have. Last year my cousin married a guy with very strong Alt-Right views, and he forced her to spend $40 to get a DNA test through ancestry.com just prior to the proposal. He has continuously expressed the greatest of pride to me that his wife’s DNA came back as 99.8% European (the other 0.2% being unidentifiable), and his 100%. All this talk from him about purity makes me feel a bit awkward and left out, since through the other side of my family, I am mixed race, or in alt-Right eyes “impure” (mom had an American Indian father and a white mother). I can’t imagine how a guy with these strict standards could ever lead successful game; someone who asks all the girls they take out to get DNA tests, and only sleeps with those who go through with the procedure and are proven 100% white, are going to have a very slim number of partners to choose from.

    1. Heartiste has an article which I think is called “White Nationalist Game”. He has screenshots of interactions. This shit is hilarious but there is some merit to it. https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2015/08/27/white-nationalist-game/

       1. To me heartiste is definitive of the true alt right. He makes excellent points about miscegenation, but never loses sight of game and the virtues of masculinity. And lets be honest, an undamaged mudshark is as rare as a unicorn.

    2. Don’t be retard. Even Hitler said 1/8 proven non-white admixture was still okay and considered Aryan. Just look at the Nuremberg laws for fucks sake.

       1. That was fore Ashkenazi jews, who are, on average, 70% European, which they didn’t know back then. They just knew jews were partially European in makeup, weren’t German, and subverted Germany.
          I doubt he would have made the same allowance for someone with 1/8 black or asian ancestry. Though he probably would have for someone with 1/8 Arab or American Indian.

47. Apparently you are new to the internet and have never heard of trolling.

48. I thought we were alt right. And red pill.

49. There are a lot of NEETs on the Alt-Right, but let’s get real here.
    Think about the implications of the cuck meme for five seconds.
    A man who happily watches from the corner while a bunch of foreign men fuck his women is definition of a cuck. That’s what white men have been doing since the end of WW2 or thereabouts.
    You can’t expect this paradigm to continue forever. A reaction is brewing.

    1. since before the end of WWII.

50. …

51. Yep, I thought we were the Alt Right, too — the alternative to the mainstream cuckservatives. The Nazis always push their agenda wherever they go, but mostly stick to the chans. They are easy to spot and dismiss, and the usually gang up on targets and try to overwhelm them.
    There’s nothing wrong with White Nationalism, as I understand it: The idea that all people, including white people, deserve a homeland and autonomy. That’s easily distinguishable from Supremacism: The idea that some people are more deserving than others. The Supremacists (Nazis) get into ranking races, purity, determining the race of others, and other obsessive-compulsive distraction.
    Most of the time, I suspect the Nazi types are Jewish disinformation ops or CIA/NSA types. There’s more shill than ‘real thing’ among them.

52. Kind of quick to block, are we? I smell pussy. Beta pussy.

53. This nonsense was beginning to die down and Roosh had to poke the hornet nest again. Roosh needs to fight his enemy directly instead of the alt-right in general. Sinead Mccarthy from Renegade Broadcasting, who is not alt-right, is stirring up this shit. I can’t stand that feminist psycho. For fuck sake go bother her and Renegade.

    1. Roosh is not part of the alt right. He is simply a turkroach sex tourist in kike land

       1. I never said he was nor do I think he is. What I’m saying is that instead of attacking the alt-right as a whole he needs to go after the source. Many in the alt-right have actually been fairly lenient with him including Richard Spencer and Ramsy Paul.

          1. no the only thing roosh needs to do is die.

          2. I’d like to see him fighting with Sinead a while before he dies. It would be fun to watch them eat each other. God knows that shrieking harpy Sinead deserves it.

    2. The alt-right focuses on ETHNIC identity politics and traditionalism. Establishing a delineation on sexual grounds only serves to undermine our purpose by creating a conflict between us and our own women.
       This conflict with the degenerates of the manosphere is no “nonsense”, and frankly speaking, I think it’s about high time for manospheric bullshit to get kicked out of the alt-right.

       1. I think people are missing the point of what I’m trying to do here.

54. controlling male sexual behavior is just as important as controlling female sexual behavior. Im not sure somebody who admitted in his own books how he raped women could come to understand this.

    1. Citation needed.

       1. roosh “pretty sure if she called the cops i would be in prison” V

          1. Which book? What page? What was the context?

          2. http://www.counter-currents.com/2016/02/roosh-really-is-a-rape-advocate/

          3. That link is not allowed on my work computer so I shall remain skeptical until I can see proof.

          4. k give me a second

          5. The most damning quote is from Roosh’s book Bang Iceland. Roosh claims that this passage has been taken out of context. Here is what I quoted, with the paragraph breaks corrected:
             “While walking to my place, I realized how
             drunk she was. In America, having sex with her would have been rape,
             since she legally couldn’t give her consent. It didn’t help matters that
             I was sober, but I can’t say I cared or even hesitated.
             I won’t rationalize my actions, but having sex is what I do.”

          6. Try using archive.is

          7. Ah, I thought this was what you were going to quote, but wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt.
             Do you know how that story ends? They wake up and bang a couple more times in the morning (read: sober). Still sound like rape?

          8. Yes unfortunately in western civilization we have laws that protect women from predators. When a woman is barely able to stand she is also barely able to consent to anything.
             Had she pressed charges , he would be in jail for rape.
             He flipped a coin and it happened to land on “luck”
             Unfortunately his books are rife with women refusing sex. Saying “no” and he continues to fuck them. Fucks women who are not even awake.
             Truely dispicable shit

          9. And yet he hasn’t been landed in jail once even after “raping” so many women and recounting his escapades in books for all to read…color me unimpressed.

          10. My friend , when you are piss-drunk , and get in your car and drive it through a bunch of children , do the police exonerate you of responsibility because you didn’t know what you were doing ? If you are drunk and pick a fight in a bar with a guy , will that guy not punch you back ? Do you understand what i’m saying ? You want females to be exonerated of responsibility. They are delicate little flowers that need saving and can consent only when it suits them right. You people are making such a fuss about drunken consent. It’s still the same person , still the same thoughts , still the same desires , only without the inhibitions. If you’re drunk and someone wants to kick you in the balls for shit and giggles will you let them just because you’re drunk ? Fuck , some people have serious issues with logic and rationality.

          11. he is retroactively being banned from countries for his predatory behavior.
              Im not one for rape hysteria. But he admits to acts of rape in his own literature.
              When he is confronted on this fact. He responds “macho literature is not evidence”
              So he is basically saying his whole persona could be a fabrication.

          12. These platitudes are meaningless. You are defending predatory behavior with meaningless comparisons to other situations.
              A women cant consent or even prevent a man from doing what he wants with her when intoxicated. This is why the law is like this. Yet roosh continues to break it and admit it

          13. That’s because macho literature is not evidence. Where are the mobs of women claiming Roosh raped him?

          14. What platitudes? He’s following the argument of being drunk and unable to be held responsible to its inevitable conclusion:
              Drunk and has sex: not responsible
              Drunk and drives a car: not responsible
              Drunk and picks a fight: not responsible

          15. oosh “pretty sure if she called the cops i would be in prison”
              More context. A woman nowadays only has to call the cops three weeks later when Chad doesn’t call her back, say that she had two appletinis and they will call it rape. That’s a pretty wide net, definition wise.

          16. Are you serious man ? Comparisons to other situations ? It’s exactly the same thing , only you propose that females be exonerated from responsibility. Well ok i’m fine with that , but i also want to legally drive after i drank 2 bottles of wine , smash my car and get away with it by saying it’s ok , i was drunk.
              How can you separate these things ? You say that an intoxicated woman cannot prevent a man from doing what he wants. Dude , even a sober woman can’t prevent that , we are physically superior by a huge margin. So i don’t see your point. We are talking about mental capacity for consent here , not physical capacity to fight back a rapist. True actual wanting or not wanting to sleep with someone. And she agrees , and she goes with it , and in the morning she regrets it. That is rape in your book ?

          17. platitudes. You cant accidently drive a car while passed out in a gutter.
              you can get raped while passed out in a gutter

          18. Don’t pass out in a gutter then ? No but seriously , rapists will rape , can’t help that , no point arguing that. Why help them ? Why be piss-drunk unable to move in a gutter when you can be a stable non-alcoholic person that plays it safe and drinks in her own home if she wants to ? I avoid bad neighborhoods at night , i don’t go to my local government asking them to burn that neighborhood down. I play it safe , i have personal responsibility. Why do you wish for women to lack that ?

       2. In-group psychology. Civilization.

55. ok, so whee does my campaign to #BanMalePregnancy fit in to all these camps? The whole proposal also bans female impregnation, same sex procreation using stem cells or creating a baby by any means other than joining a sperm of a man and an egg of a woman, and protects everyone’s equal right to marry and procreate naturally with their own genes together with their spouse, and voids all same sex marriages in every state.

56. These people don’t get that if they don’t start fighting for the Western culture instead of “white people” (a lot of which are anti-West, pro-immigration feminists etc) they will never get anywhere.
    Even if natsoc happens it will fix things but then devolve into gassing kikes/niggers and warmongering, it’s always been like this.
    I’m ok with deporting people who want to force their culture into another, but if they become Westerners why the fuck do you care what level of melanin is in their skin holy shit.

    1. Wester culture = white people. They are the same.

       1. Look at the U.S, the cradle of modern western culture.; it’s not all white people that made it great. Although they did play a significant part.

          1. Not all. The overwhelming majority.

       2. Then why are there so many whites living degenerate lives? We know who those are, and we both dislike those.
          I think only a limited share of white folks make (the great) western culture.

          1. Without a doubt we’ve got some dead weight; some evolutionary dead ends. But it isn’t the majority.

    2. Well put. Any person of any background should be welcomed warmly regardless of skin color. Amazing how the alt-right Nazis and SJW/feminists are one in the same–while professing to hate each other.

    3. Genes strongly influence human behavior. You can’t have a Western culture when Europeans have been replaced by Middle Easterners and Nigerians.
       We’re not at a point of diversity anymore, this is replacement level migration.

       1. Middle Easterners and Nigerians can adopt western culture just as much as typical westerner. They should be welcomed, while those in the west who despise everything about it should be castigated and ridiculed.

          1. keep smoking crack. Middle eastern christians rape white women at the exact same rates as the muslims

          2. “A. Wyatt Mann,” the same pseudonym used on all those Neo-Nazi cartoons making fun of blacks and Jews.

          3. As someone who’s been in Iraq… They don’t. They may mimic western values, but at the end of the day, Mid Easterners and Nigerians very rarely assimilate.

          4. I don’t think so re rape. Why is it that some countries in Europe–namely Slovakia–offered to take only Christian migrants?

          5. You sound like a commie.

          6. Am i supposed to recoil in horror at your revelation?

          7. Nobody gives a fuck what ”values” they adopt they aren’t us and we want separation from them.

          8. All human behavioral traits are heritable.
             If you replace 100 average IQ Germans with 69 average IQ Nigerians, the culture will most certainly change.
             And remember, IQ is just the most heavily studied and measured example, it is far from the only one.

          9. Anything but; I fucking hate the far left (primarily feminism and that SJW crap which people on this this site are primarily against). No need to play the race card.

          10. Because they know they’ll get very few of them and then can say “Hey! We took in some ‘refugees’ lol”

          11. Why not?

          12. If by Mid Easterners you mean Muslims, 100% agreed. That’s a failed “culture” entirely. But anyone from any country who genuinely wants to assimilate into western culture and not impose some third world bullshit on westerners should be welcomed.

          13. No, they might superficially adopt some Western manners but the more profound aspects of their personalities remain unchanged. This is true even with 2nd and 3rd gen migrants.

          14. ‘Assimilation’ necessarily means access to the gene pool. A few here and there won’t make much of a dent. hundreds of thousands to millions? That’s a massive problem.

          15. I’m completely opposed to the Islamic invasion in Europe; those people by and large are not looking to assimilate.

          16. I don’t want people from the MME and Africa in Northern Europe.

          17. Are you saying that as long a millions of non-whites are looking to assimilate, then it is okay?

          18. Why? Most aspects of your psychology are genetically inherited. You can’t change IQ, time preference, impulsiveness,etc. by teaching western culture.

          19. Most people don’t, including yours truly. But for those already living here and who love the western way of life, there’s no need to discriminate against them.

          20. I haven’t seen that bear witness all the time. It does sometimes, granted. A very good friend of my daughter is from Middle Eastern immigrants (legal, here long before any political stink, here before 9/11 even) and Muslim. The girl is sweet, charming, doesn’t wear covering type clothing and is going into medicine (sharp as a tack). She’s technically Gen 1 here.

          21. Sure we can, look what happened in the Soviet Union.

          22. …and you can’t have western culture with a population of 80 mean IQ.

          23. I never once said I supported mass immigration, just that people looking to legally assimilate, go through the appropriate channels, and leave the third world shit behind should be welcomed. What’s happening in Europe right now is nothing short of an unmitigated disaster.

          24. Not sure about that. I know hundreds of thousands of Middle Eastern Christians emigrated to the US early in the last century and became excellent citizens. I think it’s a Muslim thing.

          25. Agh, you’re making me sound multiculti, stop it.
              You can in fact raise IQ *if* the IQ can be raised in the people in question. The Irish used to gauge more or less around modern black level IQ at the turn of the last century, which is why they were so despised. A generation of proper upbringing and now they’re indistinguishable from other whites.

          26. Huh!? What, what happened in the USSR? The Russians didn’t get any smarter or dumber or less resilient, or less criminal. True, their elites were killed off, but the mass of peasants had enough hidden potential to make up for that.

          27. Those who do are always a very small, negligible percentage

          28. Why do you think so many people fled the USSR for the west? They saw how much better the western way of life was, irrespective of race.

          29. So if millions were looking to go through the legal channels (i.e. the government opened the flood gates) then it is okay??

          30. *sigh* Bad example. Sure, you can ‘increase’ IQ if you stop actively decreasing it through alcohol abuse and poor nutrition. Much like you can help someone breath better by taking your hands of his throat.

          31. Right. The point is that I think that the equalists use that kind of example without having a proper context around it. It worked for the Irish because they had that potential already there, they were just drinking it down the gutter.

          32. No, there always has to be immigration quotas. Again, mass, almost unlimited immigration to Europe by third world savages would be opposed by anyone with a brain.

          33. What does that have to do with what he said about intelligence?

          34. Yes. You aren’t attacking my point in any way. I was talking about differences between races, not between political systems. A race could conduct itself poorly under a wholly ineficient administration. This doesn’t undermine the basic premise of race difference.

          35. He didn’t say anything about intelligence, my response was to his saying that you can’t teach western culture. You absolutely can teach said culture; look at how countries like Japan and South Korea blossomed after the Second World War.

          36. The problem is that we’ve already been flooded with massive numbers of migrants.
              Some have to go back.

          37. I’m attacking your point on the fact that you can’t teach western culture. You certainly can, and the countries that do end up adopting said culture, regardless of race, end up being much freer. I’m not saying racism doesn’t exist in said countries, but the western way of life is certainly better.

          38. True. And modern black Americans are a good example of black intellectual potential under the best of circumstance.
              Same holds true to South African college students, who are also 15 points under whites.

          39. But why have non-white immigration at all? It seems like you are supporting the reasoning that since the national birthrates are down, we need to import people. If so, that’s ass-backwards thinking.

          40. No argument there.

          41. While Japan and Korea did take on SOME aspects of Western Civilization, they have by and large retained their unique cultures that they’ve had for eons.

          42. It might, but in my experience, those are the exceptions, rather than the norm.
              Interesting read:
              http://www.newenglishreview.org/Nicolai_Sennels/Muslims_and_Westerners%3A__The_Psychological_Differences/

          43. We don’t need to “import” anyone, except those wanting to come through the legal channels and those who willingly abide by the laws of countries taking them in–and even then, in restricted numbers. I’ve never supported mass immigration of any people just for the hell of it, as in the case today with Sweden, Germany, and practically the entire EU.
              But for the people living here–often multi-generations–who are well-assimilated and regardless of race, no right-thinking person would have a problem with those people.

          44. I don’t disagree generally. I’m just noting that it can happen.
              Given my druthers I’d shut the borders entirely and do an Operation Wetback type sweep for a good decade, then halt immigration except for very exceptional cases for another 20 or longer.

          45. We’ve had blacks in the US for hundreds of years now. How have the majority of them adapted?

          46. So we ‘need’ to import those people who willingly abide by the laws of the country — why?

          47. Look, this is the kind of discussion that could easily fill a book…
              Just think of the fact that most Japanese firms use blood type as a predictor of behavior when hiring personnel. Magical thinking on this scale and magnitude cannot exist in the west.
              But the point is, you CAN’T make the vast majority of non-whites adopt western ways of thinking at a profound level.

          48. Who says blood type indicators are wrong?

          49. I agree with that; just look at the Muslim world. All I’m trying to say is that those who want to adopt it should be welcomed, regardless of race.

          50. heehee
              What’s your ancestry?

          51. Does that hold true though? Many former colonial countries in Africa, once the Euros left, went haywire insane to the point of setting millions of people on fire and murdering all the whites, then returned to the near squalor existence that they had prior to the Euros arriving.

          52. Tell me in my post where I say we “need” to. In certain, restricted numbers and given the right circumstances for each applicant willing to go through the appropriate legal channels, fine. But no country “needs” to do anything. If every western country halted immigration, fine.

          53. Africa was by and large up shit creek, I’m not denying that. But look at South America, though.

          54. Mostly Dutch. Some Welsh, Greek and Danish.

          55. Blood type is O, rhesus negative.

          56. Well said, and so true. Raphael Patai’s “The Arab Mind” is highly instructive on the subject.

          57. Understand that I’m attempting to be impartial and objective here. The parts of South America that retained a high concentration of Euros genetics are doing fine; Argentina comes to mind. Chile floundered for a while, wised up and shot as many Leftists as possible, and seems to be fairly stable (in relation to other nations down there). Other countries are absolute shitholes. You wouldn’t catch me on a good Sunday taking a walk through Peru.
              I think the difference is interbreeding. Whites in Africa stayed with other whites. In South America they interbred with the admittedly sometimes gorgeous indios. Not saying that this is the end all be all, but it does contribute to the genetics argument a bit. The poorest places in central and south America are always the ones of nearly pure indio blood, and the richest most stable places look like Spain with more palm trees, demographics wise.

          58. Not too bright are they?

    4. Race is real and it’s more than skin colour.

       1. Phenotype is the scientific term.

57. Yeah well when your women comprise 4% of the world population and every mud and rapeugee wants to get their hands on them because the jews keep telling them that our women are willing sluts (true unfortunately), then you too will want to do a bit of house cleaning and patriarchy.
    This is only the beginning, and it’s nothing like feminism. This is about controlling our whores and keeping them away from muds because we can’t afford another f!ck up.
    As the White race become more dispossessed and more like Kurds in our own lands, the control will tighten and more of you muds will blocked out–by any means necessary.

58. Shocked Non White is surprised that White Nationalist movement seeks to be exclusively White.
    I mean, it’s not like the clue is in the title or anything.

    1. He’s implying that Western Civilization is somehow separate from whiteness. And that somehow sleeping with white women of ill repute will save Western Civilization

       1. How convenient.
          Did nobody tell him our end objective is to return him to the Middle East?

          1. Who the fuck are you and what power do you have, real, theoretical or imagined.

          2. I’m just a White Nationalist who came to look at a bunch Multiculti loving serfs.

          3. Go chuck a spear.

          4. My ancestors called it a “javelin”.

          5. Then do something for your people.
             Instead of laying blame on others, take responsibility for your out of control, boorish and whorish women and straighten them out again. Make them proud of who they are and loyal to their own kind or they will be used like the trash that they have become by anybody digging around such heaps.
             Then you can tackle the root of the issue which ISN’T the towelhead tsunami. I’m sure you have an idea of what it is but are you prepared to face it?

          6. It’s the unfettered will inherent within Liberalism, what you propose is yet more Liberalism. And don’t insult my intelligence by trying to deny that is what you ”Kings” have fluffed up here.

          7. I like your comment and agree, but I’m not sure we’re on the same page when you refer to an “idea” that we are unprepared to face. In my opinion that “idea” is the verifiable fact of jewish occupation of our countries’ media of mass communication and academia.
             I certainly agree that we White men do indeed need to take control of our women, but first and foremost among those tasks is to prohibit them from consuming jewish media which promotes sexual promiscuity and miscegenation 24/7. That is going to require swallowing of the Red Pill with regard to the jewish problem, which is why many racialists make it our first order of business.

          8. Out the back of a chinook if need be.

          9. We are. We’re outing an oriental rapist for the out group rapist he is.

          10. Im an idiot for defending Roosh across the Altright.
              I was in the top comments on site after site making a case for including him, of a unified right front. I busted my ass the past couple of years bringing readers and arguing with my own white brothers that he needed to be included and to leave him alone. I saw alot of good in him, I saw wisdom in him. He an intelligent person, when he writes I pay attention. Ok maybe some of our more vociferous members got under his skin, they shouldnt have, but he also shouldnt have written this stupid article.
              Heres Dr. Greg Johnsons response today BTW
              http://www.counter-currents.com/2016/02/yes-roosh-white-nationalists-want-to-control-sexual-behavior/#more-61484
              Andrew Anglin HIMSELF defended Roosh, as did many of us. I had one of the top comments on that one too. Read it.
              http://www.dailystormer.com/the-crackdown-on-roosh-is-a-crackdown-on-us-all/
              We are like a bunch of inmates fighting for dominance in a jail. Big victory! but were all still locked up, living under the whip of the jew.
              Culture, migration, values, psychology, history?
              Who exactly do you think is your readership Roosh?
              Rappers?
              Muslims?
              Incas?
              Bernie sanders supporters?
              How many “how to get laid” articles can people possibly read? Roosh dosnt even write those anymore,
              that crap is its beneath him, and us.
              Racial self awareness is the logical conclusion of the “manosphere”. Black, Brown, Asian or White, we all need to understand that.
              But if Roosh wants to vilify the alt right (the majority of his readers) then fuck him.

          11. I feel like if Roosh had his way, he’d make white women wear a burqa, but only he’d incorporated them into a harem of some sort.

          12. Well hopefully you have seen the White!

          13. Yeah man, saw you on Daily Stormer.
              Don’t feel guilty. He did good things until now. You did the right thing to avoid inner conflicts as log as possible to bring men from different fronts together. I saw it happen and I am glad for that. That’s why I liked this site
              Ultimately, it would have made no sense to attack him in the past, when the website promoted so much unity in european men and attacked the multicultural narrative and even named the jews. Let’s be real, ho many do this ? Few.
              Those contributions will always be appreciated. But this article kind of seems to be the end of the honey moon between ROK and the alt right. It’s a little sad, but it was good while it lasted. I have no regrets for promoting content on this site.
              This afticle definitely was a bad move.
              I made the same argument as you.
              I have connected with readers here and that is all that matters.
              Although it feels like a backstab. I’m with you on this.
              Ultimately, you did no wrong. As long as someone is mostly good, no enemies on the right. He breached the agreement.
              I feel you man.

          14. Same here. I’m dismayed he wrote this article. Incredibly cheap, biased and all too inaccurate. Even when so many leaders of the alt right defended him in some form or another.

          15. “Culture, migration, values, psychology, history?
              Who exactly do you think is your readership?
              Rappers?
              Muslims?
              Incas?”
              Exactly. I don’t really get what is all the fuss.
              It’s a cuckservative move to attack a large part of your user base.
              Ultimately what Roosh personally does is irrelevant. I enjoy masculine non-PC conversations I had here and even some of his earlier contributions, so might as well part peacefully. Take what is good leave what is folly.
              Remember these great threads, that’s all that matters :

              The Phenomenon Of White Women Who Only Date Black Men

              The Damaging Effects Of Jewish Intellectualism And Activism On Western Culture

              Why Is There A Prolific Jewish Presence In The American Feminist Movement?

          16. Your end objective isn’t shit bitch. You all talk a big game but aren’t shit outside the Internet, fuckin cowering behind your nigger fucking women

          17. Hey man I only just started participating in the RoK comments recently and noticed you talked about writing an article in regards about VPNs and internet security.
              Are you still writing the article? If not do you have a recommended VPN you’d use if say you were in Australia? I saw you mention we’re apart of Eye 5 or something?
              I’m only new to learning what VPNs are and the fact governments around the world are tracking people coming to sites like this, 8/Pol etc so just want to keep my privacy safe.

          18. ..

          19. Well the good news is that perhaps you Nazi scumbags will stop polluting this website with your bilious nonsense.
              Go back to where you came from…

          20. clever ! ouch…

          21. live from englishbobs room. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/54f78ea405752240a0827c063ef3408117552f8ff3d1fc5b9b071dc2ce34d607.jpg

          22. We are not your enemy Bob.
              Your people suffer in chains along side us.
              And you know it.

          23. Go out and get laid stop trying to learn how from a fucking website.

          24. I dont agree with Greg Johnsons alleged lifestyle, but thats not my business. He is intelligent and wise and cares about his people and writes under his own name, so when he speaks I fucken listen.

          25. Who need to consult this website and buy this guy’s books in order to figure out how to get laid.

          26. I can see both sides, but to be fair, the alt-right (at least SOME on the alt-right) started it. After the ROK meetup thing, I saw plenty of alt-right guys bashing Roosh. Seems pretty damn silly to me. Of course, that’s always been my main complaint about the alt-right as WELL as the manosphere. Guys seem to think it’s more important to spend their time attacking each other, as opposed to the common enemy we all face.
              We’ve made some progress battling the PC libtards in the last year or so, but we still need all the allies we can get. They still have control over the government, the mainstream media, and academia.
              As far as I’m concerned (and I know most in the alt-right/manosphere will disagree with me, which I find sad) I don’t care if you’re a white supremacist, a Middle Eastern guy like Roosh, a homo like Milo, or a woman like Karen Straughn or Lauren Southern. If you’re an enemy of the PC cult, you’re my friend. Period.

          27. LOL! Really dude?

          28. You should be sent back.

          29. English Bob? Lol.

          30. A storm really is coming “English” Bob.

          31. How very true. Their ideology is weakening. Achievement should always be everything for a man.
              Race is not an achievement.

          32. Sure… Hitler would have gone on to slaughter all those traditional Christians without resentment. Religion is at the heart of culture.
              “Christianity is the worst of the regressions that mankind can ever have undergone.”
              Adolf Hitler
              Also, what is this bullshit all of the sudden? Are you not about calling bob a “shitskin” and curse him for banging so many white women?

          33. I wouldn’t worry too much bob. When troglodytic Nazi morons are pissed at you, you are probably doing something right.

          34. Mazel Tov!

          35. Pick up culture is death culture. They are the precursor scavengers to the feast of carrion. I thought Roosh recognized this, but alas all he wants to do is wet his beak in offal.

          36. How about family?

          37. How is raising a healthy family not an achievement?

          38. I wasn’t expecting a proper answer anyway.

          39. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvthNcsV6xA

          40. Take a look at this Bob
              

          41. How do you raise a family when every boy in creation wants to pump and dump your daughters?
              Does Roosh sound like a proponent of family in this article?

          42. …https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rnRPhEwELo

          43. Well done. I’ve never attacked you, nor posted anything resembling what you, in particular, would call ‘bilious nonsense’ on ROK. So cheers for the nice reply. I’ve been reading ROK just as long as I’ve been reading any alt-right sites, so where did I come from, exactly?
              There is so much misunderstood between the two ‘sides’ here. As someone who thinks of himself as being in the middle, people really need to learn to read. The alt-righters who base their ideas of Roosh from things he did years ago, or taking what he does at face value, ignoring the fact he has grown and changed. Then there are people such as yourself, who label all alt-righters with the same brush, when anyone can see its clearly a vocal minority. Hell, go onto the recent Radix article about Roosh, and you will see many comments, including from myself, defending Roosh.
              And adopting the means of the Left for silencing others (calling us Nazis, how original) is quite troubling.

          44. Look at the articles on ROKs front page today. He does recognize it. The readership recognizes it. He just doenst know what to do. This whole conflict is just stupid and counterproductive to us all.

          45. Thats because we dont need to debate you jews anymore, with your talmudist noise. Those days are over.
              It’s talked about in your holy Talmud. You are destined to rule us goyim for eternity. Right?
              Try attacking me with a different sock puppet account.

          46. You do not even know why game exists, do you?
              It exists because our western women are trash. Tell me how anyone is possibly supposed to make a proper family with one of these special snow flakes:

              Study Shows Young Women Are Twice As Likely As Young Men To Be Mentally Ill

              
              There is nothing more miserable than a miserable woman. How can you possibly stay so completely unaware of this, I wonder?
              Western women are trash. The only possibility are non western women.
              Also, do you even know jack shit about SMV? Today men have to compete with hundreds of other men just for one average woman. Never heard of the internet and atrocities like tinder have you?
              You guys surely aren’t “redpill” by any measure.
              Tell me, what is the singular best personality trait for a woman to have?
              Without it a family cannot function.

          47. What a retarded interviewer.

          48. I enjoy your comments man. There is no need to stoop to the low brow name calling…

          49. What? Hah, aren’t you just making it too easy. You will not even stand up for the transgressions of your own ideology, will you?

          50. If you are suggesting that neo-Nazi movement deserves a thoughtful and well expressed rebuke then I have to disagree with you.
              Feminists, Nazis and children all get the same low brow, curt and generally disdainful response. I don’t feel I need to raise the level of discourse when talking to or about them.
              Maybe we agree about other things…being here I would assume so. That said, group think, chanting and general cuntishness deserves no such dispensation as far as I am concerned.

          51. No he isn’t. You are the victim of a practical joke. And to the jews who orchestrated it, it is only getting funnier. Jews destroy countries by getting liberalization and eventually communism in as the norm. They do this by brainwashing a society’s women. That’s how they did it in Russia, that’s how they did it in Serbia, that’s how they are trying to do it now.
              Stop turning on potential allies simply because you can’t let go of one final piece of jewish propaganda, putting the pussy on the pedestal. It pisses me off, after waiting for a decade, to see the only movement concerned with preserving whiteness subverted so easily.

          52. And the way we do what the guy said is by removing the influence of jewish brainwashing on white women. There is a reason Hitler handed out awards to women who had many children exclusively with one man.

          53. You mean National-Socialists, right? Because “Nazi” is made up derogatory word invented by Commie Kike.

          54. “National Socialism racialism was not against other races”. Good thing we cleared that up.
              We don’t need to debate you racists anymore. Those days are over.

          55. It is about everyone keeping to their own groups and improving their own countries. The idea that foreign women are exotic is merely lifelong media programming. Now the obligatory question:
              How does putting one’s own group and family before the needs of complete strangers who may want to do them harm make them logically incorrect, misguided or terrible people?

          56. What is your “own” group? Also, your definition excludes the majority of western people aswell.
              Some American is hardly any less a complete stranger to me than some African.
              Getting to know people that makes the only difference between strangers and people you can trust.

          57. ‘Go back to where you came from…’
              No, how about you go back to where you came from, ‘Bob’. You aren’t English and never will be, f*ck off back to Africa and apply some of these degenerate game tips over there.

          58. ‘our western women are trash’
              It’s movements like this that make them even worse, on top of the subversive feminist movement piloted by your people, Jew. Your pathetic lies are beginning to lose their hold, and history shows what usually happens when they do… Tick, tock…

          59. And you are going to do what about what? Tell me are you going to marry those special snowflakes?
              You are completely oblivious to the sexual market, aren’t you?
              Let me repeat.
              “Also, do you even know jack shit about SMV? Today men have to compete with hundreds of other men just for one average woman. Never heard of the internet and atrocities like tinder have you?
              You guys surely aren’t “redpill” by any measure.”
              The only solution is to elevate men’s SMV whilst letting those empowered women suffer for their own choices.
              They have chosen to be awful mothers and wives so we let them have it and treat them accordingly.
              A ho cannot be made a housewife.
              “Tell me, what is the singular best personality trait for a woman to have?”
              Without it they are worthless mothers and no family can function.

          60. Jew, you don’t need to tell a White nationalist what a mess your people’s subversion has made of Western woman. When masculinity becomes the norm amongst young men and the polluters of the popular culture are removed (this will happen around the same time), then all the actions your band of subversives have taken will be undone, which will include the political ‘liberation’ of women (in reality, her turning into a consumerist wage slave and abandoning her natural function in the preservation of our species) – but also the turning of the sexes against each other, an evil of which this movement is a part.
              Men and woman are different, but complementary, provided their relations are not corrupted by the crafty parasite. Jews and Gentiles are different, but one feeds on and attacks the other, until the host organism no longer has the possibility of shaking this vicious predator off. Our movement is dedicated to pointing out the alien subversives like you who wish to lead our people to ever baser levels. You would have them follow their most animalistic urges rather than the noble ideals of which only their people are capable. You will not win, and our rise is only beginning.

          61. Sure, sure…
              That you are talking about “evil” is certainly the height of it.
              What you are doing right now is nothing but fantasizing.
              Tell me, finally, what exactly are you going to do? Vote Trump?

          62. My own group is descendants of the aryans, or the origin of intelligence which is suprahaplogroup GHIJK. (Except J, for obvious reasons)
              Their descendants, are:
              R1b – western european
              R1a – slavic
              I/I2a – nordic
              G – armenian/georgian (has been mostly destroyed through genocide)
              J1/J2 also descended from this, but they want to wipe their kin off the face of the planet. Northern indians have r1b which is why you see scientists and other intelligent people from that region, and haplogroup D developed combining with K, leading to the East asian peoples.

          63. Agree with every word.

          64. That he calls himself “English” is the biggest joke of all.
              He wouldn’t survive a week in Africa, surrounded by his own kind, and he knows it.

          65. The only “conservatives” that Trump has united are Neo-Cohen’s and that AGAINST him.

          66. You misunderstood me. I’m all for protecting one’s own group and family and strangers should not be received unless they pledge to have the utmost respect for the nation that receives them and it’s culture.
              My comment was strictly directed to colonel brumm above who first quoted a nazi officer saying “National Socialism racialism was not against other races” and immediatly after went on about Jews and their talmudic nose.

          67. Holding on by their fingernails each day. Ive watched them lose decades of ground this past year around the world. They will never reclaim an inch of it. Trump in the US and Putin in the East and Europa unchained. We are seeing it with our own eyes brother.

          68. Maybe you should type in hebrew so your friends can understand and give you at least 1 upvote.

          69. Dont bother with the talmudist, RW. Hes irrelevant now.
              https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/58dcc581f6a017dd80b9685861c5f167b83d4cd8e59a6c3c1d5075aa83578246.jpg

          70. Dont begrudge him his keyboard bravado. Its all he has left nowadays. Soon he wont even have that.

          71. But can Adam Levinson survive this?

          72. Apparently so, because that’s who you bow down to everyday.

          73. But you have this;

          74. Morgoth the Great bows before no one! Except of course, his fat feminist overlords;
              https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b2fe898249e81d412ce8752f19ccfd4674afef145e27739905a3eaaeac3295c0.jpg

          75. In all fairness the ‘alliance’ was essentially doomed from the start. As many WN, including Greg Johnson have noted, much like Feminism, Roosh, ROK and the Man-o-Sphere are the product of the decline of Western civilization and embrace it and try to make it work in their favor, rather than offer solutions to reverse and restore it.
              Nationalism is about family, clan, heritage, ancestry, traditions, history, ethos, identity, etc. Getting laid – short of marriage and reproduction – are distant second concerns; hardly defining, though they are of the Man-o-Sphere. Even the National Socialists; the infamous bogyman, held women with very high regard. If you’re going to call WN ‘cucks’ or ‘pussies’ for treating women fairly and honorably, then you might as well call the Nazis the same. The fact of the matter is that Roosh – contrary to where he was born – is Middle Eastern, and inebriates – perhaps even unknowingly – a very Middle Eastern mindset – one that is completely alien to Europe; especially individualistic Western Europe, where he’s most predatorial – and while we shouldn’t take at face value what feminists say, and would be foolish to allow Feminism to define “rape” or “misogyny”, so too would we be insane to allow Middle Easterners to define them – again these are people with a different mindset and belief system than Western men.
              Bottom line, Roosh isn’t White, and he sleeps with White women – as bad enough in and of itself that is – he treats them not as mothers, as daughters, as sisters, as the sacred vessels of Western civilization, but rather as harems (no pun intended). He regards White women no differently than his fellow Middle Eastern counterparts (Turks, Barbary pirates, etc.,) regarded them 1200 years ago, and still do to this day. But, out of all the things to complain about Roosh, I really don’t like the self-entitled “pick up artist.” When one imagines a “pick up artist” they likely think of a suave, educated, charismatic, sophisticated aristocrat who woos women with his charm, whit and modesty, when one reads Roosh’s “Bang” books however, of his stalking women at bars after hours and deciding which one is drunkest and coherently less likely to reject his advances or run away, one gets the impression he’s more of a serial killer. His books aren’t so much about wooing women as they are about getting into their pants anyway possible.

          76. Always liked your material, glad to see your intellect is also as consistent.

          77. And here are your pure-blooded juggalettes. Laughable. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/307b0d970da9b19b13d66597e0bb6a385336bfebd40aae786fc0920fbf2a0192.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d6b1691f7d741b69bb74d36b252310be48de552eeb674674c7122db918b5dfe9.png

          78. What are YOUR solutions to reverse and restore it? You guys have been around forever. Forgive me, but you don’t seem to be having much luck stemming the tide. Guys like Roosh and Heartiste are the one’s who opened the door. You guys simply strolled through it and decided to take credit and then bash them for their efforts.
              “he treats them not as mothers, as daughters, as sisters, as the sacred vessels of Western civilization”
              And why should he? White women in the west are collectively rejecting those roles. And they’re collectively rejecting those men (sexually and romantically) who treat them that way. If you want my respect, you have to earn it. Simply ignoring the degeneracy of the modern western women and telling them that, no matter how they behave we’ll still worship and adore them as the “sacred vessels of Western Civilization” doesn’t seem to be working out too well. What guys like Roosh and Heartiste are doing is showing women that there are consequences for bad behavior. If you’re going to behave like a whores, then we’ll treat you like whores. Hopefully after seeing that, some of the younger white girls coming up will start to question where this sick culture is leading them and alter their behavior accordingly. But kissing their asses and telling them how wonderful they are no matter what they do IS NOT working.
              If you have a child who is acting like a spoiled brat, what’s more likely to change their behavior? Telling them that they’re precious angels and they can do no wrong, no matter what and that everything is someone else’s fault? Or forcing them to take responsibility and live with the consequences of their actions?
              What are YOU advocating? All I know is that I’m getting to the point where I can’t simply ignore the behavior of white, western women anymore. I refuse to marry the town bike. I refuse to have children with a woman when the likely hood is over fifty percent that at some point she’ll divorce me and take them away from me. SOMETHING needs to change. The manosphere is offering a solution. It might not be the right one. I don’t know. But what I DO know is that what you guys seem to be offering isn’t a solution at all. It’s simply an admonishment to fed up men to bury their heads in the sand and pretend like everything is hunky dory and to keep treating white women like their shit doesn’t stink when it most obviously does.
              You blame Roosh for sleeping with white women. But I don’t see you mention anywhere that white women are choosing to sleep with ROOSH. You hate blacks for sleeping with white women. But you absolve white women of all responsibility for sleeping with blacks. Newsflash. Roosh doesn’t owe you anything. Black men don’t owe you anything. Men like pussy. They like sex. And they aren’t hurting THEIR people by sleeping with white women. So why should they care? On the other hand, white women DO owe us something. THEY are the one’s who are being disloyal to their people. THEY are the ones rejecting marriage and motherhood to spend their best years riding the cock carousel. Personally, I think you guys should be spending a lot less time worrying about Roosh and the other non-white men, and spend a lot MORE time worrying about the behavior of the white women who are choosing to sleep with them.

          79. That is fair enough. However labelling a group Nazi (or the like) so that you don’t have to take them seriously, is something that the Left does, which is why I argue for raising the level of discourse. Try and beat an idiot in an argument by stooping to his level, he will beat you with experience.
              In saying that, the alt-right certainly does attract its fair share of weirdos, as do all movements.

          80. Brilliant.Totally agree.

          81. Leon Degrelle is my absolute hero.Truly a giant who walked among men.He was a thinker,a fighter and an advocate for White peoples.

          82. You’re thinking of Stalin and the Bolshevik Jews who closed all churches and murdered millions of Christians.Hitler was rational and also a Christian as he stated many times.I believe many Christians including myself get angry when our religion is hijacked by liberals.Hitler did not like the homo Catholic church and its hijacking of Christianity to wield power.It was Stalin and his Jewish commissars who sat around making up lists of people to be killed per city/area,and not just of perceived enemies but merely for the numbers.

          83. You aren’t capable of human thought so how you debate.

          84. Do you always “Express congratulations for a happy and significant occasion or event” in a Jewish fashion with online Jewish avatars as the turmoil and toil of the blood of your fellow righteous slowly creeps past you as through cracks between cobblestones?
              Shows over, Colonel.

          85. Another politician.
              You play nice now, y’hear?

          86. Hitler used the acronym Nasos for the National Socialists.Nazi is a derogatory word referring to an imbecile.Its weird how Jew tv can warp history to the point that those who lived it wouldn’t recognize it.

          87. Which ever way you slice it you side with a traitor. The time to act was a few months back when he practically claimed his religion aligns with the manosphere on an article which unfortunately, I can’t recall at the moment. Maybe somebody knows the one I’m talking about.
              But better late to the party then never now, isn’t that right, Chapo?

          88. Hitler used the acronym Nasos for the National Socialists

              Maybe, but I never heard in his speeches anything but Nationalsozialismus and Nationalsocialisten.
              But Goebbels once used in book of same name, term der Nazi-Sozi.

          89. I don’t disagree in general and if I wanted to try to beat them or change them or change the world I would definitely agree. That said, I am not looking to save the world and some people, movements, Etc I just need to ignore. I will never try to get women, drunks or idiots to the next level.
              As for left or right, I don’t take a side. I am neutral. It’s not my war.

          90. I came from England mate.

          91. Yes of course.

          92. There’s a lot of guys on here who are actually proud Nazis. I am not using the word pejoratively. If you are not a National-Socialist or White Supremist fine, but there are a number of guys who consistently attempt to change this site from a place for open-minded men to share ideas, to one where anybody who does not fit the Aryan Model, is out.
              This is a personal attack on me and other’s like me (such as Roosh) who are not blonde haired and blue-eyed.

          93. They are sensitive fellows…

          94. How are you going to make people “keep to their own groups”?

          95. Mate of mine (born in England) has been in Africa for two years. He’s fine.

          96. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/84855cf15a2073ef3c43313ba20fac5cb0d2c6e5df984929a98a6e4e980b865d.jpg
              Don’t worry man, we’ll clean up those little snow flakes for you…

          97. Another politician.
              You play nice now, y’hear?

          98. If the WNs hate Roosh who is opposing the Liberal Menace, and are doing so by using white libprog sources, it shows a level of cognitive dissonance which steps over the boundaries into dementia.
              The Left’s subversion is Global in scope. To fight that enemy, one can have parochial objectives but must do so without clashing with any allies’ mission statements. Because without allies, they will be isolated, cut off and rendered irrelevant in short order.
              This infighting is stupid and wasteful and benefits no one but the Left.
              Seeing the Alt Right’s attacks on ROK is making them look like a lighter shade of the Black Lives Matter morons.
              By their “logic”, they would rather throw in their lot with white Marxists like Jerry Brown or Hillary Clinton than rational black Patriots such as Col. Allen West, Sheriff Dave Clarke, or Thomas Sowell, and all other extenuating circumstances ,aside from skin color, be damned.
              One would even suspect that the Alt Right has higher regard for that commie traitor bitch Jane Fonda than Vietnam Vet and Green Beret Medal of Honor winner MSG Roy Benavidez because to them, she is white while he is nothing but a “wetback” and a mud even though he was a greater American and Patriot than anyone in the Alt Right Movement.

          99. I’m white and I’m with Roosh on this after spending way too much of my life bringing into focus the horror house that is the internationalist agenda for all of us. The alt.right is losing intellectual currency to its more tribal and less gifted advocates. We don’t have much time left and now is not the time for scoring own goals.
              In the UK now, no joke, you would be arrested and jailed even for saying what you just did about Roosh. Churchill too, for what he wrote about Mohammedans. Who knows what would happen now to anyone who penned his classic, Zionism versus Bolshevism, published in the Times in 1920, probably see their life ruined.
              That’s how advanced the tyranny is at this time.
              In South Africa, books are being burned at university, simply for being written by whites. Yes, that is the outcome for country run by leftists, run on a trojan platform of equality and tolerance, where in red pill reality, the payload is hate, destruction, division, chaos and profits.
              To those of us acquainted with the sheer scale of murder that leftism has wrought on the world, what is happening now means we have to man up to stop it or at some time, we can expect the fate of those who did not successfully resist it in the past.
              Regarding women, I think quality of woman comes first, which is the start point ideologically, to discerning what that is.
              A lot of articles are written here on that very point, including coming to terms with painful truth, discovered by field experience.
              White knighting for a woman just because she is white is benighted, an impediment to rational thought when it comes to quality, just as more abstractly drawing a conclusion based on any external appearance is risky, given its potential vitiation. Nature is full of examples of mimicry. Women are obsessed with cosmesis. Men rate appearance reflexively. Therein lies a potential arbitrage and most women are well aware of it.
              Imagine wifing up the local tart just because of her porcelain skin, only to find out later her character is too flawed for LTR when you could have had a jaw dropping and loyal wife if only you looked past skin. Putting the blinkers on is leftist and our elites manipulate our tendency to denial masterfully. The evidence of this is all around us.
              I don’t deny the destiny of Western demographics, the well enumerated corrosive factors on Western fertility and their political origins and that the forced mass migration of 3rd worlders is deliberate, as well as a product of weakness in the West to resist TPTB agenda. I get it.
              Also if you want white kids, you need a white wife, no way around it, but you will be choosing a white woman.
              At the same time, I knew plenty of guys throughout my youth with notch counts over a hundred and in every case there’s a good reason for that. We need capable men to organise in a way we can prevent the clearly horrific intent of TPTB. I would also rather have more men grouping together who understand women than less. We have already seen the potential violence and propaganda in the MSM to Roosh for even attempting to do that.
              Communists/community organisers understand the process of organisational behaviour and its discontinuity far better than our own red pill forces at the moment. Misusing psychology for the purpose of malign influence, they have invented words or grafted political semantics for terms such as racism, sexism, feminism, homophobia, islamophobia, antisemitism, which are wholesale paraded and screeched around any resistance against any one of them, despite the dissonance of decrying islamophobia and in the same breath misogyny or homophobia. These virtual signalling shibboleths hold such power despite being cast iron psychological manipulation. How do we fight a power so strong it can suspend reason with emotional blackmail?
              What we do have is the achilles heel of political correctness, brutal honesty. PC is at its heart effeminate and the bluest of blue pill. Sacred blue. The cure is neomasculinity. What we need is an effective way to organise on this basis.

          100. Most of us can agree that a handful of European nations were at the forefront of civilization for the past 350-450 years following the Renaissance and gave birth to a renewed Western Civilization which has immensely benefitted the world.
               But to hear the Alt Right crowd talking on their message boards and FB groups, you’d think every one of them would be a Vasco da Gama, Michelangelo Simoni, Sir Richard Burton, Nikola Tesla, El Cid, Gen. Erwin Rommel, Andrew Jackson, James Bowie, Sgt. Herman H. Hanneken, Cecil Rhodes, Lewis Wetzel, Hans Ruddell, Sir Edmund Hillary, Otto Skorzeny, Wild Bill Donovan, and all the other great men the West produced when it was still in a period of ascendance if only they weren’t being oppressed by liberals, Jews, fags, blacks and the (admittedly corrupt and hostile ) Establishment. How weak is that excuse?
               Therefore, I have to conclude that mant Alt Right groups like TRS are do-nothing complainers who have not, and will never, be able to attain greatness because they think that great deeds are the result of skin color rather than a product of cultures which created men who invented, innovated, and pushed beyond previously perceived limits.

          101. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2baf9f5615e5d795d4a009a284b4a227956113e5ed2829adb149f6839c90a23b.jpg

          102. No comment.

          103. James Adams writes: “You aren’t capable of human thought so how you debate.”
               There is nothing I could possible add to this to better highlight the depths of idiocy that can be attained.

          104. Some of these pale and emaciated sexless boys will become the Dylann Roofs of the world. The rest will keep waiting for revolution in their moms basement.

          105. Wow. Excellent, EXCELLENT comment. I agree completely.

          106. With force. Inconceivable in our ‘enlightened’ times, but this is how it has always been done. You can remove man from nature, but you cannot remove nature from man.

          107. Do you constantly call out or better just outright assume that opponents are Jewish? That is actually very telling.
               Let me give you a historical insight into civilizations. If you believe it or not humanity and it’s civilizations aren’t just “advancing” or “progressing” towards a goal.
               There are at least three stages that every civilization ever has undergone or currently undergoes.
               First, is the struggle against other civilizations. A strong sense of nationality is the norm.
               Second, is the achievement of a certain degree of security against invaders. This leads to impressive advancements in all areas of human life. A high morality code is prevalent.
               It is the peak of any civilization.
               Third, is the decline. What do Rome, Babylon and all the others have in common?
               They degenerated.
               The most significant indicator of this is the increase of the power of women.
               Patriarchy works best in a dangerous environment. Once this threat is abolished, women gain in power due to being natural leeches off of men’s power. That is exactly what we see with Babylon and all the others. Women are natural cowards. That isn’t something to shun them for, that is just their nature due to being powerless themselves.
               In a time of security women do anything to prevent danger.
               As such they will naturally undermine men’s power and try
               to stop certain ideologies.
               Even if this is at the expense of the morality code.
               All of this is evidenced by the voting gap of the sexes sufficiently enough.
               No surprise women won’t vote conservative. They are the reason for the cuckservative.
               Here are links if you are interested in the subject:

               4 Surprising Ways That Chimpanzees And Bonobos Show The Decline Of Our Society

               How A German Historian Predicted The Decline Of Western Civilization 100 Years Ago

               
               To sum it up:
               The decline of civilizations is a thing that happens because men have let their power get slipped away.
               All of this indicates that there isn’t just a specific group plotting and causing the decline. And no, I will not say that the Jews in general might not slightly accelerate this decline without even knowing it (Such a mindset tends to happen when you inherit genes that where being hunted down all the time).
               But, all you are doing with this is rationalizing away your own power and responsibilities.
               Meaning, you are indeed one of them. You have the mindset of a coward. A bonobo so to speak.
               What exactly have you ever done against it?
               Btw, about your genius remark (Man, I should have it framed)
               “Maybe you should type in hebrew so your friends can understand and give you at least 1 upvote.”
               I wouldn’t be doing this (unlike you) if I cared about votes.

          108. Do you constantly call out or better yet just outright assume that opponents are Jewish? That is actually very telling.
               Let me give you a historical insight into civilizations. If you believe it or not humanity and it’s civilizations aren’t just “advancing” or “progressing” towards a goal.
               There are at least three stages that every civilization ever has undergone or currently undergoes.
               First, is the struggle against other civilizations. A strong sense of nationality is the norm.
               Second, is the achievement of a certain degree of security against invaders. This leads to impressive advancements in all areas of human life. A high morality code is prevalent.
               It is the peak of any civilization.
               Third, is the decline. What do Rome, Babylon and all the others have in common?
               They degenerated.
               The most significant indicator of this is the increase of the power of women.
               Patriarchy works best in a dangerous environment. Once this threat is abolished, women gain in power due to being natural leeches off of men’s power. That is exactly what we see with Babylon and all the others. Women are natural cowards. That isn’t something to shun them for, that is just their nature due to being powerless themselves.
               In a time of security women do anything to prevent danger.
               As such they will naturally undermine men’s power and try
               to stop certain ideologies.
               Even if this is at the expense of the morality code.
               All of this is evidenced by the voting gap of the sexes sufficiently enough.
               No surprise women won’t vote conservative. They are the reason for the cuckservative.
               Here are links if you are interested in the subject:
               http://www.returnofkings.com/7…
               http://www.returnofkings.com/7…
               To sum it up:
               The decline of civilizations is a thing that happens because men have let their power get slipped away.
               All of this indicates that there isn’t just a specific group plotting and causing the decline. And no, I will not say that the Jews in general might not slightly accelerate this decline without even knowing it (Such a mindset tends to happen when you inherit genes that where being hunted down all the time).
               But, all you are doing with this is rationalizing away your own power and responsibilities.
               Meaning, you are indeed one of them. You have the mindset of a coward. A bonobo so to speak.
               What exactly have you ever done against it?

          109. Yeah, that certainly is your own DNA group.

          110. Let me just place that here:
               “Christianity is the worst of the regressions that mankind can ever have undergone.”
               Adolf Hitler
               From his actual non-public table talk.
               “…a Christian as he stated many times.” That is called propaganda. A term that he coined by the way.
               Do you know the percentage of Christians in Germany at the time? It was ~90%.
               Tell me, considering that you deem him rational, would it make sense for him to go up against these 90% of Germany?

          111. As a matter of fact is it “made up” but just only like this: NAtionalsoZIalist.
               There is nothing derogatory about it.

          112. Agreed, it is pathetic when men care about looks of other men. We should show each other respect by default and the only thing that should set us apart ideally (as in someone being more respected than others) is achievement.

          113. Check out

               12 Ways To Increase Your Anonymity And Security Online

          114. Says the nazi meme spreading anonymous zealot.

          115. You know. As an American, I have no problems with what the Nazis did. They rose to power..gave the Jews and immigrants a choice to either get out or suffer the consequences. Then, they took their country back. However, I do have a problem with a country invading another country and forcing them to agree with their motive. That is where I draw the line. You can do whatever you want as a people in your own country. But don’t force other countries to agree with you. Same for Ukraine. Yes, they are in a civil war. No, the US shouldn’t help nor should Russia. Stay out of their problems. It is the same as helping one brother fight another. They gotta figure their own shit out.

          116. Agreed.
               When i was in HS 2 guys hated each other and would fight all the time for 2 years, in sports, in gym , in the cafeteria. One time they started fighting in a locker room and I went and bolted the door. They fought and fought until they were both bloody and exhausted and then they started laughing. a couple of days later they were best pals, total goofballs and best friends for years after.

          117. Fuck the ‘alt’ right.
               Im a proud White male and these assholes do not speak for me.
               Go ahead, dont fuck non whites, thats more pussy for me.
               Being proud of being White doesnt mean I have to hate everyone else and build a little clubhouse that wont allow them entrance.
               Any movement that eschews alliances based on race is lame and is likely there to poison the well.

          118. This is a type of tactic that they’re using, called division. With the alt-right being more concerned at attacking non-whites in general, they will fail to see the problem is the subverted useful idiot white women who help the jews destroy countries.
               The problem could indeed be solved, but the problem is that the alt-right keeps white knighting and putting women on a pedestal. NOBODY is saying that white women are trash, but that they need to be put in their place and stop this feminism bullshit. The problem is that everybody’s too concerned with attacking other races, promoting Nazism, and exposing Jewish propaganda before this problem is even reached. And when we do wanna talk about this, the alt-right attacks us because they think we’re attacking their “pure” white women.
               It’s such bullshit, but this is just one of the reasons why this game is already over, I think. The hidden subversion of the alt-right movement, the only movement that stands a chance at stopping the destruction of western civilizations means that there’s little hope for western civilization.

          119. well any cult that is obsessed with purity will often also have its utopian bend, which tends to attract people who assign all blame elsewhere, dream of perfect and quick solutions to complex problems and often promise a prominent destiny for the “initiated few”. for all the appeal to “conservatism”, guys like erik von kuehnelt leddihn and voegelin would find a lot of gnosticism in the “alt right”, which is america’s version of “nouvelle droite”.

          120. And that is how man-ships are formed. A great movie you might wanna watch is “Warrior”. It’s about two brothers and a father rekindling their bond. I started watching it to fall asleep one work night. Next thing I know, it was 2am and I was wide awake wanting to start training.

          121. Well, isn’t that convienient…
               How can someone be so removed from reality?
               http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marcus-buckingham/whats-happening-to-womens_b_289511.html

               Study Shows Young Women Are Twice As Likely As Young Men To Be Mentally Ill

               
               Your precious snow flakes are tatted up, broken and miserable freaks.
               You are outright denying reality, but what’s to be expected off of someone who shifts all the blame on Jews. As done traditionally.
               Here, educate yourself about the rise and fall of civilizations:

               How A German Historian Predicted The Decline Of Western Civilization 100 Years Ago

               
               And on its relation to sexual relationships:

               4 Surprising Ways That Chimpanzees And Bonobos Show The Decline Of Our Society

               
               Do you know the singular main symptom (and reason) for the decline of all those once great civilizations?
               It is giving women, who are natural leeches, power.
               Just look at the voting gap of the sexes. Women are natural cowards. Hardly something to shame them for, it’s like shaming a child for being childish.
               They are the sole reason for the cuckservatives. But of course that is something you have just always denied, isn’t it?
               So, that you can just avoid all of your responsibilities. That makes you one of them.
               You are just a coward.

          122. As a matter of fact is it “made up” but just only like this: NAtionalsoZIalist.
               There is nothing derogatory about it.

               And you belive this crap?
               Why not NAtionalsociaST? Nast?
               Nazi/Nati = NATIonal
               Sozi/Soci= SOCIalist.
               Yes it is derogatory and disparaging. I don’t know who in his right mind by playing word association could connect word Nazi with NationalSocialism.

          123. Absolutely. Not only do women need to be put back in their proper place, they secretly want to and it will make them happy.

          124. Me? I’m one person, I have no idea what the solutions to reversing and restoring a civilization are – you might as well ask me what I think the cure for cancer is. But I can certainly tell you what they aren’t, they aren’t writing books about ‘picking up women.’
               The ‘Alt-Right’ or whatever one wishes to call it, has only been around since 2007-08, which is about as long as the Man-o-Sphere, but the Alt-Right has in fact accomplished a great deal considering all the odds against it. As much as the left hates men organizing they despise the idea of White people having pride, identity or heaven forbid taking back control of their own countries. The fact is the left will always approve of a Middle Eastern misogynist than a White Nationalist – always. Because ‘racism’, as we all have been informed, is the absolute worst sin one can make; much worse than misogyny or rape – even Roosh grasps that, hence this pathetic SJW-like rant about the horror of restricting non-white access to White women.
               All throughout the Western world, Nationalism and Idenitarianism is rapidly growing, even the political candidacy of Donald Trump has subtle White identity politics which is precisely why everyone: democrats, feminists, Jews, etc., oppose him – however there are no political movements anywhere solely for the interest of men; not even ROK is a political movement, but is rather a John Birch Society like country club of men sitting around drinking scotch and complaining about how much they dislike women – no offense to you personally.
               As I said, ROK EMBRACES the decline of Western society, and tries to make it work in their favor. But as I said, Roosh isn’t White. It isn’t his heritage, identity, civilization and his women that’s one the line. My point illustrated again. A Korean, Filipino or Iranian conveniently living in the West may have the luxury of not being a nationalist or caring about miscegenation because his identity isn’t the one being threatened. For Whites to take that view however, is not really Alt-Right, it actually shares a lot in common with “cuckservatism.”
               I don’t want your respect – not at all. Just a moment of your time, which I appreciate.
               Where did I say I worshiped degenerate women? I embrace women, all White women, recognizing that many are degenerate and not the sort that I personally would want a relationship with. It’s like embracing my family members while recognizing that some are black sheep.
               “Guys like Roosh and Heartiste” condone race-mixing – I don’t, and never will. I have no respect for race-mixers because they have no respect for my race. Nationalism condemns race-mixing by default because it destroys ethnic cohesion and boundaries and undermines national identity and sovereignty. The only non-whites I respect are other Nationalists; non-whites who equally condemn multiculturalism and miscegenation, because they recognize that it jeopardizes I and my people’s identities as much as it does them and theirs. Respect can only be made between different peoples when they respect each other’s right to identity, homogeneity and sovereignty, there can be no respect between peoples who arrogantly that threshold.
               So instead of, say, educating women or promoting some kind of Traditionalism which values community, your solution is to sexually assault them? This is your interpretation of a reasonable punishment? You’re really strengthening my argument about a Middle Eastern mindset: “They dress like whores so we rape them like whores!” How about White men decide how to ‘deal’ with OUR women and societies? Middle Eastern men can keep their opinions to themselves or preferably GO BACK. After all, you don’t see White men lecturing the Chinese on how to control their women or run their societies – and frankly I don’t think the Chinese would appreciate it.
               No, the Man-o-Sphere is not offering a solution, it is offering a survival guide to the end of the world – the two are VERY different. You seem like a pretty informative guy, so inform me, what solution to the decay, dissolution and dilution of Western civilization could possibly be found in a book entitled ‘Bang Poland’ or ‘Bang the Philippines’?
               It is a solution, just not one you’re in total agreement with. For the survival of Western civilization some sacrifices are going to have to be made. What really seals the fate of a crumbling society is the people’s stubborn inability to compromise. Under Nationalism/Identitarianism men and women would be expected to make meaningful and indeed mutually respectful relationships, but this would require weeding out degenerate lifestyles – including multiple sexual partners and ‘pick up artistry’ – and, as Roosh so horrifyingly capitalized on, putting forth sexual limitations – which Roosh, as a ‘pick up artist’ who makes a living off of free and non-restricted sex, would obviously oppose.
               I don’t blame Roosh for anything, I condemn him – there’s a difference. I don’t blame people for the actions, but I do ask they take responsibility for them.
               First of all, I’d hardly call stalking and exploiting inebriated women a ‘choice.’ Second of all, the only reason why White women ‘choose’ to sleep with non-white men is because they have the convenience – the safety blanket if you will – of still being able to live in a Western society. If you take that away from them, if you make it clear that White women who fornicate outside of the race will be rejected and ejected from White societies, then you’ll see a rapid decrease of interracial couples. And for two reasons: one, because women don’t want to be rejected by their community – which includes their families – and two, because women don’t desire to live in the societies of non-whites, because they know that it’s White men who produce the kind of societies they desire to live in. If it was made clear to a White woman who dates black men, for example, that she would have to go live in Nigeria or Haiti if she wishes to continue her relationship; that she’d no longer have the option to live in Ireland or France, then she’d quickly get with the program. And we aren’t saying that White women can’t date interracially, we’re saying they CAN’T in OUR societies. And I believe this is very reasonable and fair. Fair for White women, because we’re not stopping them from ‘loving’ non-white men, and fair for the White race, because we’re safeguarding OUR racial identities and nations.
               You make a good point. Non-White men shouldn’t care. No more than White men should care about how Negroes were treated so ‘badly’ as slaves; or even if they’re enslaved again – how’s that our concern? Mexicans and Syrians coming to the West for ‘a better life’ – cry me a river! I say let them live in perpetual poverty. Why should a superior people ever apologize for being superior? The problem with ‘respect’ is that it’s a two way street – there’s no two ways about it – if the respect isn’t mutual then there is no respect, just one delusional idiot who thinks there is. So far it’s only been Whites who’ve shown any respect or concern for other races, but that can certainly change.

          125. The people of a nation make up what may be called its ‘genetic infrastructure.’ The genetic infrastructure of a nation is its MOST valuable material asset – more valuable than all the land contained within its borders. Sub-Saharan African countries are RICH in natural resources but POOR in terms of per capita GDP. Iceland, however, possesses virtually no natural resources yet exhibits very high standards of living, by contrast Haiti is situated on land suitable for a tropical paradise, but is instead a land of abject poverty. Why? We BOTH know why. From the slums of Haiti to the favelas of Brazil people of sub-Saharan African descent indisputably express their genotype through the communities they create. The same can be said of people of European descent. From the frigid climes of Iceland to the productive Boer farms of South Africa European people grow societies with European characteristics wherever they plant their genetic seeds.
               Wealth DOESN’T exist in the ground; it’s created by minds that transform raw materials into useful products, and then transform useful products into more complex and more advanced products. Underlying all great inventions and innovations, from Johann Gutenberg’s printing press to Elon Musk’s spaceflight enterprise, are great minds. And underlying great minds is a material asset whose necessity in intellectual capital formation most economists either don’t grasp or dare not mention. That material asset is the deoxyribonucleic acid that exists within our cells. DNA IS destiny – it determines whether a person will be male or female, have light skin or dark, posses the cognitive capacity needed to attain genius-level IQ or be afflicted with mental retardation. DNA shapes who we are as groups and as individuals. And our aggregated genetic qualities make up our nation’s infrastructure. When a nation’s genetic infrastructure is strong and well-maintained, all citizens derive benefits. Not only does a high-quality gene-pool produce great thinkers and innovators, it also gives ordinary folks in the middle of the IQ bell curve who are capable of being self-reliant. It gives us well-functioning communities where people can safely walk the streets at night and keep their doors unlocked during the day.
               Unfortunately, the minds of most of the people who occupy positions of power are filled with destructive ideas. As a consequence, the governments of the West are dedicatedly pursuing destructive policies. Western countries are bent on destroying their own genetic infrastructure – the one material asset that’s indispensable to national identity and without whose preservation Western nations will cease to exist. Instead of carrying out policies that would preserve the existing genetic infrastructure, government officials are acting as vandals. Through refugee resettlement and other dysgenic social engineering programs, culturally Marxist governments are bureaucratically breaking down the West’s genetic infrastructure. The aim ultimately to replace the genetic infrastructure native to the West with an imported mish-mash of weaker, foreign components that don’t fit and never will.
               Your advocacy of color-blind rainbow pseudo-nationalism wreaks of cuckservatism. Your problem, by which I mean any ideology or movement that attempts to form a national coalition on anything BUT genetics via the most trivial abstractions: liberty, freedom, language, etc., is that you believe race, culture and civilization all to be mere interchnagable social constructs. Germany could’ve just as likely produced its unique traditions and histories, its advanced societies and kingdoms, and made all those remarkable contributions in the fields of science and medicine if it had been originally populated by Bantus or Filipinos, right? Because it’s . . . culture . . . that determines the success of a people and nation; and a nation’s culture is in NO WAY shaped or reflected by the genetics of the people.

          126. are you referring to the Nazis with the “invasion” line….or the U.S.

          127. Well it’s certainly understandable why someone like Roosh might complain about purity, or see purity as somehow negative – he’s neither White nor pure (Armenian/Iranian). Does Roosh oppose purity based on sound reason, or is it more likely that as a mutt, or mongrel, or whatever one wishes to call him, he’s merely expressing a biased opinion? Personally, I’ve found that the only people who tend to complain about purity are themselves not pure. Anyway, I don’t believe either possibility should be casted aside; that is, I believe both possibilities should be given equal footing. Does Roosh oppose purity in principle; that is, does he EQUALLY condemn and ridicule Nigerians, Cherokee Indians, Polynesians, Japanese and Persians who might view their identity in the context of ancestral and ethnic homogeneity (i.e. purity), or does he only condemn White purity i.e. the explicit societies and identities he seeks to infiltrate? Again, all possibilities must be taken into consideration.
               Roosh complains about ’14/88ers’, but what is it? Something about “establishing and securing a homeland for White men, women and children,” right? Replace the word ‘White’ with Jew, Japanese or Palestinian, while leaving the rest of the message in tact, and NOT ONE god damn person on Earth would complain. Only when securing the existence of White women and White children does there seem to be a triggering; and far too many are under the impression that this double standard is normal, not engineered.
               Anyway, O’Sullivan’s Law dictates that: Any organization that isn’t explicitly right-wing will inevitably become left-wing in time. This anecdote can ultimately be applied to just about anything – purity for example. In the last 70 years the U.S. has gone from the One Drop Rule, which stated that any amount of non-white admixture ostracized one from White society, to something of a Reverse One Drop Rule today, where anybody with noticeable European admixture, however small, or even someone with no European ancestry at all – someone who’s Iranian/Armenian say – but who simply presents themselves as White, can identify as White. Keeping O’Sullivan’s Law in mind, I could speculate that any White society that doesn’t promote explicit Whiteness will gradually become non-white (mixed-race) in time; in other words, if you don’t have eugenics and the One Drop Rule you get dysgenics and the Reverse One Drop Rule by default.

          128. It is simple really, we need a simple slogan:
               “No enemies on the Right”
               Debate, disagree, maybe the occasional trash talk in good fun. But no hate, no real enmity. In the end we all should be pointing our weapons at the common foe.
               If somebody is so obsessed with race, sex or really any one thing, to the point they won’t make common cause with any ally in what is quickly shaping up as a nightfall war against the forces of frickin’ Darkness then they are worse than useless.

          129. And that surely proves that it’s derogatory. Are you not yourself using the word “Sozi” right now? How come that you think it cannot simply be shortcut with Nazi? Exactly because “Nast” makes such impractical word they simply used Nazi. Such small details show your delusion perfectly.

          130. Agree completely.

          131. Ok, I won’t try to argue the point further. Just understand that there is much misunderstood between the two ‘sides’, and try not to take to heart the attacks of a few.

          132. Show me example were German National-Socialists called themselves “Nazi” or GTFO.
               Nazi = NAZIonalist
               Only time were someone officially used “Nazi” term was by American NationalSocialist, George Lincoln Rockwell, American Nazi Party, and this “nazi” was more for shock value than for real.

               And that surely proves that it’s derogatory

               Nazi (also the cognates Nazism and Neo-Nazism) is a political epithet invented by Konrad Heiden (7 August 1901 – 18 June 1966) during the 1920s as a means of denigrating the NSDAP and National Socialism. Heiden was a journalist and member of the Social Democratic Party of Germany, whose mother was a Jewess. The term is both an imitation of the nickname given to Marxists of the SDP at the time, Sozi, and a political pun similar to the Austro-Bavarian word for “simpleton”, derived from the fairly common name Ignatz (German language form of Ignatius). It was then popularised abroad by various Judaics and other subversives, including Heiden himself, who fled the country after the NSDAP were elected to government.
               The term was regarded as a derogatory epithet by National Socialists and was used almost exclusively by Marxist agitators. Typically the use of Nazi Germany, and Nazi regime, was popularized by Jewish émigrés from Germany after 1933., especially in English-speaking countries. From them, it spread into other languages.
               A rare example of its usage by a NSDAP member can be taken from a 1931 work by Joseph Goebbels called The Nazi-Sozi: Questions and Answers for National Socialists. Since the rise of Cultural Marxism the term has been used as a broad Europhobic epithet, eminating from the same quarters, to demonise European people in general and attack leaders who advocate their socio-economic and cultural interests, far beyond the bounds of actual National Socialists. Some have ironically turned the phrase back on its inventors, through the use of “Nazi” as an abbreviation for National Zionism.

               Are you not yourself using the word “Sozi” right now?

               Actually “Sozi” was derogatory term for SOCIalists as opposition to National-Socialists in Germany.
               Anyway, only abbreviation where was used word “Nazi” was by Joseph Goebbels in his book der Nazi-Sozi. You see, word Nazi is connected with NATIonalism.

               Such small details show your delusion perfectly.

               You are moron. Plain and simple.

          133. Do you mean like how Stalin did it? Or rather he used force to put people in the groups he wanted.
               By force, if a bunch of blacks and whites want to hang out with each other how are you going to force them to stop. Are you going to shoot them?

          134. We Are National Socialists, not “Nazis”
               by Matt Koehl
               Is a “Nazi” the same as a National Socialist?
               The news media, our opponents and an uninformed public would all say so. But are they correct?
               This more than a mere academic question. On the proper answer hinge certain significant implications for us as National Socialists.
               It is true, of course, that in its early phase our Movement was referred to as the “American Nazi Party.” This designation was consciously and deliberately exploited for its publicity value.
               Some have questioned the feasibility of this approach, arguing that it would have been better if the term, National Socialist, had been employed exclusively and consistently since the very beginning. Whether or not this argument is correct is rather moot at this point. Whatever utility the name “Nazi” may or may not have had in the past, the important point is that for our present and future work as National Socialists it is useless.
               It is a fact that the label “Nazi” was originally used by a hostile press during the Weimar period as a term of contempt and derision against Adolf Hitler and his Movement. Nowhere did the Leader himself use this designation, either in his speeches or in Mein Kampf.
               Not only is the expression a distortion of our real name, but it connotes a certain lack of substance or seriousness, which in turn makes it difficult for anyone to take our message seriously. Indeed, if the public is to gain a credible conception of us, then we must present ourselves honestly and forthrightly as exactly what we are–National Socialists–and not some sort of political caricature. Otherwise we can expect to have as must credibility as dedicated Marxist-Leninist revolutionaries would have if they were to go around referring to themselves as “Commies.”
               There is perhaps a more important reason to, however, why we National Socialists must reject the term “Nazi.” If this label was originally used to belittle the National Socialist cause, subsequent wartime propaganda introduced sinister new connotations. Conjured up was the monstrous image of hate and evil, an image which every decent person must find repulsive.
               But if the “Nazi” image has repelled good people, too often has it had another unfortunate effect: it has attracted the very ones who fit the “Nazi” stereotype–the unstable, the unsavory, the mentally sick and spiritually defective–marginal types who may make good Hollywood props, but who have absolutely no place in a true National Socialist movement.
               Therefore we can only conclude that at best, continued use of the term “Nazi” is self-defeating. At worst, it is nothing but an opportunistic gimmick by misfits and mini-fuehrers craving lots of personal attention–little men who don’t have the slightest idea what real National Socialism is all about.
               We, of course, have no control over what our enemies may decide to call us. But what we choose to call ourselves is another matter.
               The truth is that we don’t need any nicknames. We are National Socialists, not “Nazis.” There’s a big difference.

          135. We Are National Socialists, not “Nazis”
               by Matt Koehl
               Is a “Nazi” the same as a National Socialist?
               The news media, our opponents and an uninformed public would all say so. But are they correct?
               This more than a mere academic question. On the proper answer hinge certain significant implications for us as National Socialists.
               It is true, of course, that in its early phase our Movement was referred to as the “American Nazi Party.” This designation was consciously and deliberately exploited for its publicity value.
               Some have questioned the feasibility of this approach, arguing that it would have been better if the term, National Socialist, had been employed exclusively and consistently since the very beginning. Whether or not this argument is correct is rather moot at this point. Whatever utility the name “Nazi” may or may not have had in the past, the important point is that for our present and future work as National Socialists it is useless.
               It is a fact that the label “Nazi” was originally used by a hostile press during the Weimar period as a term of contempt and derision against Adolf Hitler and his Movement. Nowhere did the Leader himself use this designation, either in his speeches or in Mein Kampf.
               Not only is the expression a distortion of our real name, but it connotes a certain lack of substance or seriousness, which in turn makes it difficult for anyone to take our message seriously. Indeed, if the public is to gain a credible conception of us, then we must present ourselves honestly and forthrightly as exactly what we are–National Socialists–and not some sort of political caricature. Otherwise we can expect to have as must credibility as dedicated Marxist-Leninist revolutionaries would have if they were to go around referring to themselves as “Commies.”
               There is perhaps a more important reason to, however, why we National Socialists must reject the term “Nazi.” If this label was originally used to belittle the National Socialist cause, subsequent wartime propaganda introduced sinister new connotations. Conjured up was the monstrous image of hate and evil, an image which every decent person must find repulsive.
               But if the “Nazi” image has repelled good people, too often has it had another unfortunate effect: it has attracted the very ones who fit the “Nazi” stereotype–the unstable, the unsavory, the mentally sick and spiritually defective–marginal types who may make good Hollywood props, but who have absolutely no place in a true National Socialist movement.
               Therefore we can only conclude that at best, continued use of the term “Nazi” is self-defeating. At worst, it is nothing but an opportunistic gimmick by misfits and mini-fuehrers craving lots of personal attention–little men who don’t have the slightest idea what real National Socialism is all about.
               We, of course, have no control over what our enemies may decide to call us. But what we choose to call ourselves is another matter.
               The truth is that we don’t need any nicknames. We are National Socialists, not “Nazis.” There’s a big difference.
               ———————————————————————————–
               NATIONAL SOCIALIST OR “NEO-NAZI”?
               by Jim Abbott
               Lets settle it once and for all! We do not and have never referred to ourselves as “neo-nazi” or addressed any other NATIONAL SOCIALIST FOLK COMRADE as neo-nazi. Period, bottom line, no if’s, ands, or buts about it.
               The term “neo-nazi” was created in the mind of a jew and promoted within the jewish press. It was created to be a derogatory remark. Anti-Germans use the dastardly hideous term as well. It was taken from the German pronunciation National Sozialische.
               We have some of our comrades referring to themselves and calling their fellows “neo-nazi”. It has always been National Socialist Folk. Adolph said, “For me and all true National Socialist there is but one doctrine: Folk and Fatherland”. Folk being first! There is no mention whatsoever about “nazi”. We cannot let the jews tell us what to call ourselves now can we! HELL NO!! Those of you who are really serious about calling yourselves “neo-nazi” need to think about what your saying. Be a thinking man, our mind is what separates us from the lowly evolved. And speaking about people who are really serious, we need you! All those half steppers who are half serious can shove off. We don’t need your weak spirit in our gene pool. I’m not going to let any jew tell me what to call myself or any of my friends. I’m a straight out National Socialist, just like Hitler was!
               Hitler never referred himself as “nazi” and he never referred to his fellow comrades as “nazi” and vice versa. So what’s up now, we’re letting the jews dictate our own programs huh? There just going to tell us that were “nazis” and were just going to jump on the term like it came straight from the mouth of the creator of the universe. No I don’t think so. The stinking kikes can take their word and stick it where the sun don’t shine. I’m not their “nazi”, I never was their “nazi”, and I’m not going to be their “nazi”. I am a representative of Adolph Hitler. I embrace him and the Swastika. I am a National Socialist through and through, straight up and straight out.
               The jews created the word “nazi” and therefore created it’s definition. And so we see the Hollywood “nazi” stereotype on the silver screen. That’s not me up there or what I represent. That’s a jew created character, designed to obstruct the true nature of National Socialism. By misrepresenting National Socialism with their “nazis” they also created the emotional response to the word. Go up to your average brainwashed t.v. watcher and say your a “nazi” and see what kind of reaction you get. That reaction is what’s known as a “preconditional emotional response” which has taken years to create. Most times the victim of this condition has no coherent definition or explanation as to why he feels this way. That’s the key word, feels, because there’s no intelligent thought whatsoever involved.
               Go up to your average brainwashed t.v. watcher and tell them your a National Socialist. They won’t even know what your even talking about. You never hear the jews refer to us as National Socialist. It’s always “nazi”, “nazi”, ”nazi”. They say “nazi” like people say nigger, kike, spic, jap and chink. It’s a defaming and derogatory slur. A bad word. And I take offense to it, often times becoming irate. I don’t let anyone get away with calling me that, if you get my drift. We are not “nazis”, We are Hitler Folk! Hitler’s Folk, get it!
               And I hate to say it, but most people claiming “nazi” act like they are reading from a hollywood script. Most of them couldn’t tell you the day Hitler was born much less explain to you our easy to understand philosophy of life.
               So why be a “nazi”? Shoot, if your going to be that you might as well become a jew. Convert to judaism. Just saying that makes you mad huh. Death one thousand times over before I become a jew. Well then, death before you become a “nazi”. It’s a jewish word, a jewish definition, a jew created emotional response and a jewish hollywood character.
               And what’s up with this “neo” thing? Man! That’s crazy. “neo” huh? No, I don’t think so. I’m not going for that one either. “neo”! We never hear the jews say neo-communist or neo-marxist. How come the jews only apply this post period to us? Well I’m not riding with it.
               Next they will be calling us “confused africans” and I suppose were just going to jump on it like it’s the last train smoking for the Fatherland. O.K. and so while we are at it we’ll just go ahead and adopt their entire program as our own and we’ll just commit systematic genocide upon our own race by out right murder and miscongeneation, with the zeal of a jew intoxicated on the blood of our babies. Yeah right! I would rather suffer tho worst torture for all eternity to come. Are you hearing me people? For the love of our race, for the love of our children, for the love of the unborn, we are not “nazis”!! We’ve got to get our minds right. Because we have got to win this thing. Take time and think, think White man, think about what your saying and doing. We are not “nazis”, we have never been “nazis” and will never be “nazis”. We are National Socialist Folk, Hitler Folk, Period, bottom line. With no strings attached and with no hollywood.
               And just say it with conviction and heart. Say, NATIONAL SOCIALIST FOLK, and stress every word. Say, Hitler Folk, like a strong White man. Now doesn’t that sound better than “neo-nazi” Damn straight.
               A Folk is a group of people with the same goals, common values, common ideals, common heritage and common blood. Goals, Values, Ideals, Heritage and Blood. We all want the same thing, we all value the same thing, get it. We are a Folk group within our race. We have chosen out ourselves from the herd, from the flock.
               Not every Aryan is our folk. Like that white man who allows his beautiful blond daughter to marry or be exploited by negros and jews is not our Folk. That white man who teaches his children to race mix, encourages them to race mix, who says were all the same color inside and who says we are all equal in the eyes of the lord is not our Folk. If they don’t think like us and act like us they are not our Folk. Period, bottom line. Thoughts and actions.
               So yes, we are fighting for our entire races survival. But first we fight for our Folk. I could care less about the white judge and jury who would sentence me to death for doing my duty in the 14 words. To hell with them, it would be better for us if they were dead, I’m not fighting for them. Those whites who have been brainwashed by the jews and fight against us for the jews I care nothing about. Do you hear me…nothing. To hell with them. Although I do feel sorry for them at times and wish and hope someday they will wake up and at least stop fighting against us. But until then, they are my enemies.
               I am not fighting for that element of our race that thinks race mixing is the greatest thing happening and who thinks jews are the nicest people in the world and who think Adolph was a terrible evil man and who hate me for all that I stand for. To hell with them, one day they’ll be gone, the sooner the better and we’ll still be here . Hitler’s Folk! We who have taken heed to the message of Adolph Hitler. The father of our tribe.
               So that’s why we put our Folk first. I’m fighting for my Folk. I am a warrior for my Folk. I’m not willing to fight for somebody who is not willing to fight for themselves. And I could care less about all those race traitors out there.
               We need to stick together and get together. Get together and form little Hitler Folk communities. And concentrate on raising our children. Because that’s where our future is and our children must take first priority. They are our most important asset and sacred treasure.
               Just think how strong our children will be, all growing up together since birth, in a little Folk community, they all know each other, each others entire family, they went to our little Folk community school and they celebrated our sacred days together like uncle Adolf’s birthday and remembrance day. All their lives the only thing they’ve ever known is each other, raised with common values, goals and ideals. How strong would they stand together. They would not rat on each other, they would not tell on each other when the going got tough. Their love would be so strong for each other nothing could tear them apart. They could not be broken. Let me stress that. They could not be broken!
               That’s the most important thing we need to be doing. Establishing Folk communities, all of us getting together and raising high quality Aryan children. And just living our lives together as a Folk, just as nature intended for us. Doing what people do from day to day. Not running around aimlessly like a bunch of hollyweird “nazis”, but settling down to some real serious work, handling ourselves like true Aryan Folk, a Hitler Folk. Setting to work and establishing ourselves in communities. We’re to scattered out right now. We need to become more tight nit and create some cohesiveness among ourselves. Remember uncle Adolph said that all creative work is anti-semitic. So lets get creative!
               So like I was saying, they all call us “neo-nazi”. Man I hate that and it pisses me off. I’m tired of it, aren’t you? We need to shake that handle, with a quickness. I’m not a “neo” anything. Let’s get with the program Folks. Let’s get our mind right. This is our “Revolution in thought”. And the thought proceeds the deed like lightning does thunder.
               Like I said, I’m not going to let no filthy stinking kike tell me what to call ourselves or any of my friends. I’m a straight out National Socialist, just like Hitler was.
               Well now that we’ve settled that once and for all. Lets get on with it! Valhalla awaits!! I’ll see you there.
               Heil Hitler and forever yours
               In the fourteen words!
               Jim Abbott

          136. “You are moron.” Sure…
               Because my lack of knowledge over this term is in any way related to intelligence. It did simply fit your general narrative too perfectly not to conclude it.
               Also, any word that is linked to such people would have gotten such a despicable notion.
               As such it hardly makes a difference. Do you like what happened through the nazis?

          137. We beat you in ’45. Go back home, you fucking kraut.

          138. Only if they force me to. Whites will stop hanging out with blacks once they again have healthy group perception. Many white people mistake being programmed to be submissive to minorities as being less guarded and ‘natural’ around them.
               Stalin was part of a Jewish movement that murdered whites in their own country, and I want the opposite. Everyone has a right to natural sovereignty, and this is reflected by in-group bias being built into nature. If you don’t like it I don’t care. I will not be shamed for putting my own blood before hostile strangers.

          139. Youre still a bottom feeder though yankee.

          140. Yup. “Game” is essentially a predatory philosophy. MGTOW is a philosophy of surrender. Both products of a civilization or at least an economic system dying of its own internal contradictions.

          141. You are delusional my friend…

          142. I am sane enough to realize that blood and soil matters more than anything else in an insane world. I am sorry you were/may be a victim of globalist schemes.

          143. Only dignity and morals matter.

          144. Yeah, run.

          145. “You will not win, and our rise is only beginning.”
               I can tell by the amount of upvotes you get…
               It is sad that people think that has any kind of merit as “activism”.

          146. Because my lack of knowledge over this term is in any way related to intelligence.

               I was not questioning your intelligence, but persistence in stupidity or ignorance even from smart person is retarded.

               Also, any word that is linked to such people would have gotten such a despicable notion.

               No, there are double standards. Commies get more positive feedback than Fascists and National-Socialist, because people like appeal to emotion.

               As such it hardly makes a difference

               Left-wing, Cultural Marxists know how to get power through words, through newspeak such as, “white privilege”, “hate speech”, “microagression”, “mansplaining” etc.
               It makes a difference.
               “Nazi”/”Nazism”
               National-Socialist/National-Socialism
               Big difference. By they way, make social experiment, ask random people, average Joe, what is “Nazi” and what is National-Socialism. I bet, he or she would say JewllyWood stereotypes about “ze evil nazis”, but he would not know what is National-Socialism, nor he would know that “Nazi” have some correlations with National-Socialism.

               Do you like what happened through the nazis?

               It depends. But generally speaking, I don’t like, because if National-Socialists have won, there would be no Turd world scum flooding Europe and white countries.

          147. And you can keep believing that until all of your blood is dead for the sake of people who secretly hate you.
               https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a8285f4aac91a03fc4924218ed775a5735c9d3690810f9ed29ca6ca99236b732.jpg

          148. Sure, sure…
               I feel stupid asking, but do you actually have any kind of proof for that serious allegation?
               I wouldn’t just say such things out of thin air.
               If you do not, then I don’t care what you say.

          149. Every single television show for children in the US that is not a cartoon promotes mixed race couples. The white population of the US is about to be a minority in the next few decades if things keep going this way, not only because of migration but sub par birth rates. White people are not having children because they cannot afford it. The reason they cannot afford it is a ridiculous tax structure that takes their money and gives it to minorities who want to have children with reckless abandon (and the television also brainwashing them into vapid materialism).
               Every society where white people have become a minority has seen mass violence against those white people. In Haiti, Rhodesia, and South Africa. It is also worth noting that those countries went from being prosperous to shitholes that drain the world economy (South Africa is in the process right now; I dare you to look up violence against whites in that country).
               I’m not going to watch it happen. My ancestors died to give me what I have. Every step I take, they take with me.

          150. I didn’t deny that whites are hated a lot. The point is that not all those people hate us.
               The only logical reason to divide people is by ideology. If you happen to be worried about genetics another logical reason to divide them is ability. Anything else is unjustified bias.
               But certainly, I agree, we should protect our countries and culture even if it costs our lives.
               Tell me, what reason do you have though to exclude someone who’s from a different race but is still ready to stand in for the country he plans to live in? Who enjoys its culture, follows it’s religion and is intelligent, willing and able?

          151. The main problem that I have with you guys is your hatred of people of “shitskin”.
               I find it rather telling when someone lets his emotions reign when it comes to general human relationships.
               There is only one way that you could prove me wrong that all not of you guys and your ideology are indeed so plain irrational.
               Why would you exclude someone immigrating when he is as good generally as the average guy from that country? I know for one that races come with biological tendencies that are not just manifest in the body.
               But, tell me, what would be wrong about a guy who is not only intelligent enough, but also follows the religion of the country and cares about its culture?
               I am aware that such people are few and far inbetween. But this is still a valuable test of wether someone is simply willfully irrational or not. If you have even one shred of logic it will make you cut through all of your emotion.
               Also, before you guys are about deporting anyone you should logically weed out all those of our own feminists, leftists…
               That is the right order.

          152. The main problem that I have with you guys is your hatred of people of “shitskin”.

               I don’t “hate” “shitskins”. I don’t want them in my country. I want that my country stay what it is, e.g. Germany for Germans, Japan for Japanese, Liberia for Liberians, I hope you get it. You know, right to self-determination.
               By the way,
               http://s11.postimg.org/f4fp6z1dv/Nazi_Racial_Diversity_4.jpg

               Why would you exclude someone immigrating when he is as good generally as the average guy from that country?
               But, tell me, what would be wrong about a guy who is not only intelligent enough, but also follows the religion of the country and cares about its culture?

               Africa for Africans (negroids)
               Asia for Asians (mongoloids)
               Middle East for Arabs
               Europe and white countries for everyone?
               Because I respect diversity and I don’t want to become minority in my own homeland or that my country lose its white identity.
               London for example is no longer English, British, it looks like Bombay.

               I know for one that races come with biological tendencies that are not just manifest in the body.

               True, and there is social dynamic.
               Augmentation of the number of blacks in a white society is a big problem because their natural collective dynamics takes over and drags down the White collective dynamics, as it is always easier to go down than up.
               If a significant collective factor drags culture down, it will go down. The balance of the civilizational and anticivilizational factors is delicate in the White race, even if it is left to itself, but if a significant source of disruption exists in the same social tissue, civilization goes down to more primitive levels.
               It is no coincidence that culture takes a plunge to basic more animal levels of social interaction, wherever blacks pass a certain aggregating treshold.
               To be honest, Asians, Orientals, specifically Chinese, Japanese, Koreans are not so disruptive factor as blacks and Arabs, Pakistanis etc. in white society, but anyway, they don’t belong in Europe nor white countries.
               Japan is 99% Japanese and Japanese want to stay that way.
               Why should white countries be exception?

               Also, before you guys are about deporting anyone you should logically weed out all those of our own feminists, leftists…

               I agree. Main problem of Europeans and white people in general are their own traitors. Ethnomasochists, pathologic altruists, leftards, libtards, femtards, SJWankers, Antifa-scists, Marxists.

          153. I don’t think I really came through. As all those leftists prove they can be a threat to their country in spite of being white.
               The other way around is people that do not belong to western countries yet stand in for their culture. What you seem to misunderstand is that culture isn’t race but it is the bonding and sharing of like minded people. Again, whites that practically fight their own culture and country prove this.
               “Because I respect diversity and I don’t want to become minority in my own homeland or that my country lose its white identity.”
               Again, I have said that races only come with tendencies. As such if an indentity is prevalent it is only always a tendency. This naturally negates that their should always only be taken in an extremely small percentage of people.
               In my opinion people that don’t consent with the culture and nature of a country, like all those white feminists, should be treated like aliens and as a threat to it.
               They should be shamed, should never receive help and shouldn’t be able to go public with their opinions.
               That sounds like censor, but when that scum doesn’t stand behind the cultural identity of the country then it should just fuck off in the first place.
               It is preposterous that some shits think they are in the position to call out apparent wrong doing by a community when that community is built around that very idea.
               Meaning what you don’t have ties with you shouldn’t mess with.
               Meaning you shouldn’t mess with a working system ever.
               In my opinion this is the only sane long term ideology.
               Anything else, as proven, leads to senseless extremism.
               When you don’t agree with us than you are not one of us.

          154. I would pose you another question; how to tell if that person is being honest, or is merely attempting to subvert.
               Legal hispanics are majority for Trump, as the 44% in Nevada showed us. I have no desire to eject legal migrants. But having an undefended border, by which anyone in any country merely has to fly to Mexico and cross the border, is suicide. The mexican mafia tortures families and decapitates people en masse for simply not paying them tribute, and they now have 100,000-200,000 operators in the US. They have to go back and be processed.
               A country that fails to defend its borders creates a rigged game where people who are not citizens are afforded more privileges through lack of taxation than citizens. If citizens are not permitted special status in the eyes of the government, then what reason does that government, or country, have to exist?

          155. I don’t think I really came through. As all those leftists prove they can be a threat to their country in spite of being white.
               The other way around is people that do not belong to western countries yet stand in for western culture. What you seem to misunderstand is that culture isn’t race, but it is the bonding and sharing of like minded people. Again, whites that practically fight their own culture and country prove this.
               “Because I respect diversity and I don’t want to become minority in my own homeland or that my country lose its white identity.”
               Again, I have said that races only come with tendencies. As such if an indentity is prevalent it is only always a tendency. This naturally negates that their should always only be taken in an extremely small percentage of people.
               In my opinion people that don’t consent with the culture and nature of a country, like all those white feminists, should be treated like aliens and as a threat to it.
               They should be shamed, should never receive help and shouldn’t be able to go public with their opinions.
               That sounds like censor, but when that scum doesn’t stand behind the cultural identity of the country then it should just fuck off in the first place.
               It is preposterous that some shits think they are in the position to call out apparent wrong doing by a community when that community is built around that very idea.
               Meaning what you don’t have ties with you shouldn’t mess with.
               Meaning you shouldn’t mess with a working system ever.
               In my opinion this is the only sane long term ideology.
               Anything else, as proven, leads to senseless extremism.
               When you don’t agree with us than you are not one of us.

          156. Is my answer coming through? I don’t really see it.

          157. I don’t think I really came through. As all those leftists prove they can be a threat to their country in spite of being white.
               The other way around is people that do not belong to western countries yet stand in for their culture. What you seem to misunderstand is that culture isn’t race but it is the bonding and sharing of like minded people. Again, whites that practically fight their own culture and country prove this.
               “Because I respect diversity and I don’t want to become minority in my own homeland or that my country lose its white identity.”
               Again, I have said that races only come with tendencies. As such if an indentity is prevalent it is only always a tendency. This naturally negates that their should always only be taken in an extremely small percentage of people.
               In my opinion people that don’t consent with the culture and nature of a country, like all those white feminists, should be treated like aliens and as a threat to it.
               They should be shamed, should never receive help and shouldn’t be able to go public with their opinions.
               That sounds like censor, but when that scum doesn’t stand behind the cultural identity of the country then it should just fuck off in the first place.
               It is preposterous that some shits think they are in the position to call out apparent wrong doing by a community when that community is built around that very idea.
               Meaning what you don’t have ties with you shouldn’t mess with.
               Meaning you shouldn’t mess with a working system ever.
               In my opinion this is the only sane long term ideology.
               Anything else, as proven, leads to senseless extremism.
               When you don’t agree with us than you are not one of us.

          158. i’m almost 100% scandinavian, but i get it just as bad from the neo-nazis and white supremacists for marrying a brown-skinned latina. ironically, she has all the traditional feminine values that both ROK and the alt-right value, something very few white women have any more.

          159. The basis of this, in my view, is envy. Some people just cannot stand someone else enjoying their life.

          160. I am taking your silence as agreement.

          161. About what?
               edit,
               I didn’t saw your recent comment.
               Yes, generally I agree with you.

               culture isn’t race but it is the bonding and sharing of like minded people.

               Society is racial construct. Culture is social construct by racial construct.
               Different races have different social dynamic. As you can see distinctive difference between European, Asian, African, Middle Eastern cultures and they are product of different racial dynamic. Race is more than skin colour.

               They should be shamed, should never receive help and shouldn’t be able to go public with their opinions.

               I am for freedom of speech, this is what Western civilization is all about.
               It is not problem what they are saying, it is problem when they are given position of power and their false narrative is welcomed and treated like truth and instilled in laws, especially in academia to spread their lies.
               I don’t have a problem with truth, but “gender” identity is debunked lie. “White privilege” is lie. Patriarchy is natural order in human beings and so on.

          162. I agree with everything but those that I highlight.
               “Society is racial construct. Culture is social construct by racial construct.”
               Well, that is indeed true, but it is not a rule completely without exception.
               “I am for freedom of speech, this is what Western civilization is all about.”
               You mean what the leftists have turned it into? I get where you see the threat.
               If a government was to get corrupted from the inside, the system would readily be perfect for suppression of the opposition. As such it is important that no singular person or just a bunch of people holds most power.
               To ensure that everything happens according to the will of the people there would have to be a kind of tribal system only for a whole nation.
               This could be done by having more splitting the power downwards more.
               Instead of voting some major or president of some 100000 people you vote for someone you can actually get to know. He then votes for his superior and so on.
               Making the government more of a pyramidical system makes it impossible for bunch of people to just go and overthrow it.
               “It is not problem what they are saying, it is problem when they are given position of power and their false narrative is welcomed and treated like truth and instilled in laws, especially in academia to spread their lies.”
               Sorely enough this will always happen when they are given any kind of outlet (as in being accepted in a society whose views they do not actually support) to speak.
               Humans like to blame things instead of themselves for perceived wrongs in their lives.
               As such we always seek change. The left is always like a continuous water drop on a rock.
               The only true long term solution for any society to keep its culture is to simply reject all influence by those that do not support its view. I find that this should be a natural given.
               Even if these happen to genetically belong to this society.

          163. You mean what the leftists have turned it into?

               Of course not. I am for society where there are no “hate speech” laws and “political correctness”, where you can speak freely without repercusions by government. It’s not job of government to control what people talk and think.
               USA was close to this ideal, but as it becomes more and more “diverse” it is becoming walking on eggshells with newspeak.

          164. I think that I am still not getting through here.
               For a civilization to last it needs an uncompromising system. For that I want to get back on the tribal element.
               Imagine you live closely together with some 100 other people at best. They are all of your social network.
               Do you think it would make sense for you to go up against their ideology? Everyone would know that you are that guy who doesn’t stand behind the tribe. They would neglect you. As such you have a logical barrier to do so.
               Or more practical with your friends. Imagine one of them was to become a hardcore feminist despite knowing that you oppose this view. Would you still want to have bearings with that person? No, you would cut the ties and logically that person cannot expect to have any business with you.
               Western society has devolved to provide a save-net for people that actually ideologically do not belong to it.
               Even people that are an actual threat to it just because they happen to be born into it.
               That is insane and bare of any benefit to society.
               “I am for society where there are no “hate speech” laws and “political correctness”, where you can speak freely without repercusions by government.”
               I agree about the part that people should be allowed to speak openly.
               Those who oppose it shouldn’t expect to be part of that ideological mindset and system anymore though.
               How could you go up against a group of people and yet expect their help and be part them?
               It is plain natural and logical that you won’t. When you want the benefits of being part of a society you have to go along with that society’s ideology.

          165. I agree with you but it is not black and white world, there are grey areas between.

               Imagine you live closely together with some 100 other people at best. They are all of your social network.
               Do you think it would make sense for you to go up against their ideology? Everyone would know that you are that guy who doesn’t stand behind the tribe. They would neglect you. As such you have a logical barrier to do so.

               This is tribal setting not exactly applicable to modern civilization and people (in ethnical sense). Tribe > people > nation.
               Modern life created from Western men, manginas. No war, no outside threat, and Western men and women get sense of false security and for women sense of false power which is failing when confronted by masculine, outside invasion by “refugees”.

               Or more practical with your friends. Imagine one of them was to become a hardcore feminist despite knowing that you oppose this view. Would you still want to have bearings with that person? No, you would cut the ties and logically that person cannot expect to have any business with you.

               Funny thing is that this is exactly how leftards and libtards behave. They talk about free speech and tolerance, but in reality they have double standards and have totalitarian mindset.

               When you want the benefits of being part of a society you have to go along with that society’s ideology.

               Nowhere in the world, except Western civilization, there are so many ethnomasochists, self-hating people, promoting destruction of their people, race, nation, culture, society, homeland, civilization.

          166. “This is tribal setting not exactly applicable to modern civilization and people (in ethnical sense). Tribe > people > nation.”
               Haven’t I said how it could still be achieved?
               “Funny thing is that this is exactly how leftards and libtards behave. They talk about free speech and tolerance, but in reality they have double standards and have totalitarian mindset.”
               I am ignoring your remark.
               You don’t seem to get the difference between “free speech”
               and free speech without any consequences.
               When have I said that no one could be allowed to speak openly?
               It is simply your brainwashed leftist mindset that tells you that there shouldn’t be any consequences even if you go up against the society you live in.
               Give me one logical reason why a society should care about and help people that oppose it. So far all you could do was to complain about your free speech in spite of this free speech not even getting limited.
               About your last sentiment I get that western civilization has declined greatly.
               You seem unaware that what I have said can naturally only work with a strong culture.
               Thus what you are implying here (following the modern day ideology) doesn’t make any sense.
               Adding that this weak and deprived system doesn’t even demand it.

          167. I am ignoring your remark.

               It was not directed against you. Just my general opinion.

               You don’t seem to get the difference between “free speech” and free speech without any consequences.

               I am aware of this, but free speech or no speech. What we witness today is free speech with double standards pushed by leftist-liberal mindset.
               Your opinion ends where muh feelings begin.
               In free society people should have the right to express their opinion even if it is opposite of popular opinion.

               It is simply your brainwashed leftist mindset that tells you that there shouldn’t be any consequences even if you go up against the society you live in.

               On contrary, it is libertarian mindset or even anarchist so to speak, but not what defines modern leftist mindset.
               I don’t see a problem with different opinion as a “right-winger” or “racist”, but I have a problem if there is promotion of genocide of my people because nobody is listening oposite opinion which is labeled as “racist”, “xenophobic”, but elephant is in the room, things will get worse by time, and will escalate quickly.
               I don’t have problem with left-wing mindset, or left-wing views. but I have if this mindset is responsible of white genocide to be specific.
               I can correct my view or accept new opinion if my current opinion is proved wrong, I am against dogmas, but when leftists-liberals parrot same crap like zombies not capable of grasping reality, than I have problem with that. Especially because thanks to them, Europe and white countries are flooded with nonwhite criminals and parasites and oposite opinions is ignored or punished by law, twitter, Kikebook, reddit, disqus are in war with right-wingers, “white supremacists”, anti-refugee comments.

               Give me one logical reason why a society should care about and help people that oppose it.

               I can’t think of.

               You seem unaware that what I have said can naturally only work with a strong culture.

               Propably.

          168. I think I have been wailing on you for no reason. Your writing style did make it seem as though you were defending yourself though.
               “I don’t see a problem with different opinion as a “right-winger” or “racist”, but I have a problem if there is promotion of genocide of my people because nobody is listening oposite opinion which is labeled as “racist”, “xenophobic”, but elephant is in the room, things will get worse by time, and will escalate quickly.”
               Well, that’s exactly why what I have suggested cannot work with a civilization that tries to obliterate its own culture. It would have to be embraced and once this is the case I think the specific more uncompromising system might even halt the cyclical decline of civilization for some time.

          169. Good goyim, accelerate the decline of your own civilisation and believe you’re morally superior in so doing.

          170. There is a difference between acceptably fair alliances that further White interests and sticking your dick in a non-White.
               If you were really what you say you are, if you had a sense of racial pride worth talking about, you wouldn’t advocate Whites bedding down with non-Whites.

          171. At least sites like this allows your critique to be heard without ban hammering you.
               I posted this gif trolling meme to bon last night in response to his trolling meme meant for me and you fucktards banned me for it? Its you fuckers that are the frauds! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fb9c1852ee21ac7e439d86981c22e36e50d7d76043f4d5777a7641da10f3540b.gif
               see my disqus history arsehole…razorrare

          172. meanwhile…post like this from bon is allowed to stand…
               razorrare razorrare 4 hours ago
               This is boneheads post that morgoths review mods left standing, up-voted by copyright101,one of the mod’s for morgoth review…
               Discussion on Morgoth’s Review 515 comments
               The Meta-Politics Of The Great Shutdown
               Bon, From the Land of Babble
               Bon, From the Land of Babble Guest 15 hours ago
               Evening, Jew.
               How’s the weather in Tel Aviv?
               Now take the gun. Put it in your mouth. Pull the trigger.
               You won’t be missed. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bbc63f0a808a436a95938015dd81fc9a37a97e65d4d60957bb1a39287ef79d14.jpg
               I responded to this post but you had banned me. No matter jew. I posted my reply over at Trad Youth. See disqus history. LOL.

          173. oh, here is bon’s post that i responded to with the gif troll meme–that was removed and then my banishment.
               Bon, From the Land of Babble Copyright101 a day ago
               Hiya–
               Because I know that MRev will do the right thing when it comes to trolls- unlike a lot of other sites.
               Thanks. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5624d714deec7393a97e3788ce44768e3de3971676ab5d5e7071d959f13ca690.jpg
               As you well know this bitch/bastard/it trolled me for over two years as an ally at the alternative right site– then turned on me like a rabid dog. Thats what agent provocateurs and professional agitators do. I am stating this not for my benefit nor yours, but for others who may come across my posts and read them.

          174. Why wouldnt I advocate appropriating the resources of my rivals and enemies?
               Especially their most important resource!

          175. Question, Huxley: Where would the singer Pink fall in terms of Haplogroups. Serious question. Just curious.

          176. You are an idiot.
               Tell me, are you Roosh himself?

          177. Only a cocksucking moron would think that.

          178. Half R1b and Half J2 (assuming she is more similar to the Jews who occupy Russia.)

          179. Fuck the ‘alt’ right.
               Im a proud White male and these assholes do not speak for me.
               Go ahead, dont fuck non whites, thats more pussy for me.
               Being proud of being White doesnt mean I have to hate everyone else and build a little clubhouse that wont allow them entrance.
               Any movement that eschews alliances based on race is lame and is likely there to poison the well.
               Well, that above here is what you posted, the post which prompted my reply. That sounds exactly like something that opportunistic non-White who’s tried to insert himself into pro-White circles like he’s inserted himself in, if his books are to be believed, about half of Europe, would say.
               Especially since we just told him to take his non-White self & f^ck off.

          180. “We” told him huh?
               Can you provide a link to YOUR website?
               Didnt think so.
               Assimilated Arab isnt White.
               However, Man o sphere is about MEN.
               Wanna hang only with Whites?
               Thats cool. I do that mostly.
               I dont go out of my way to shit on non whites though, Ive better things to do.
               You clearly DO NOT have anything better to do.
               Fuck off.

          181. I’m not shitting on non-Whites. I was correcting a White man who said he was a proud White but was gleefully advocating miscegenation. Several posts ago you were a “proud White”. Now you’re a non-White? What gives?
               Also when you said the following:
               Why wouldnt I advocate appropriating the resources of my rivals and enemies?
               Especially their most important resource!
               I could not help but think that is exactly what Roosh thinks of the myriad White women he claims to have serially banged.

          182. So do you think National Socialism would be the solution? I think WN is practically impossible, but I think National Socialism actually could be possible with eugenic practices to breed out undesirable genes.

          183. “For my own part I’m strictly neutral and enjoy learning from the various arguments put forth.”
               Fuckin Liar/ Fraud!

          184. neutral? LOL…then post this to bon’s comment…maybe you will fuckin learn something.
               There you go again with your shitty sources…
               While mainstream conservatives are being blocked by twitter, alex linder is free to tweet away like a “peckerwood.” As recently as March 3rd, 2016 alex made a tweet…there is a goldmine of anti-White Christian tweets here that you can use to agitate and divide Whites in the pro-White movement…
               http://www.alexlinder.com/tweets.html
               alex linder is a jew…
               https://lordkalki.wordpress.com/2012/05/17/alex-linder-is-a-jew/
               alex linder and his jewish linder relatives…
               http://whitenations.com/showthread.php?t=2231
               Who is a more credible source? atheist bird man–atheist linder– Christian David Duke.
               alex linder, the atheist little faggot be speckled jew who claims to represent White people yet underhandedly calls them “peckerwoods.” What a POS!
               Fake White Nationalist Website is run by a jew…
               nodisinfo.com/vanguard/
               One of linder’s tweets…babies+breivik = White liberation…
               yeh,calling breivik a hero for genociding over 70 White men, women, and CHILDREN makes one pro-White. Go figure…

          185. Morgoth 10 hours ago
               *Razzorre. I can’t reply to your abuse because I’ve been banned from Return of Kings, I was going to investigate why your ”Maddie” account was banned here but, obviously, with you calling me a liar and telling me to fuck off etc I’m not going to bother now.
               At least the mods at Return of Kings had the decency not to remove your posts…i am surprised that your girl augur isn’t complaining about the massive guest votes you received on one or two posts of yours here.
               You can not reply or refute what i said because it is the Truth.
               Your latest lie…”i was going to investigate why your maddie account was banned here.”
               You i.p.banned my razor account and my other aliases a day before i made these post to you. Such a ban does not get approved without your permission.
               Unreal…even if it were true you had nothing to do with my banishment it would not explain why a morgoth appointed mod would allow others to have free discussion that may not be “nice” while denying the same to me…if it is true that you had nothing to do with removing my maddie post to bon from the land of babble and at the same time i.p. banning my razor account ,which i do not believe it is true, then obviously one of your mods is trying to undermine your site.
               augur is free to constantly and repeatedly attack and agitate other posters of the Christian Faith (he/she/it has made more anti-Christ posts than anti-Jew posts in the last two years) and this is fine by you and the mods but one meme by me, sent in response to bon’s post, gets me i.p.banned? And you expect me to be “nice.” LOL.
               “Its more important to be Truthful than to be nice”–William Pierce…endorsed by TRUMP 2016 !

          186. I banned you, you were winding Bon up. I can’t control what happens off-site but I can’t have your feud on our turf. Thankyou. You know perfectly well an IP ban is easily bypassed so ultimately we have to rely on your good behaviour.

          187. I know you banned me. Kudos to you for finally admitting it. As you well know i posted a comment to you at TRS to come have a chat with me over at Trad Youth site.
               Regardless, your ban of me was okayed by morgoth.It had to be approved by him first.
               Regarding what YOU call “feuds.” i witnessed quite a few of them on that Christianity thread where you i.p.banned me.But no-one else was banned for “feuding”, not even that asian gal that was getting your panties in a bunch.
               If you do not want “feuds” on your “turf” then why entice me to respond to a bon post that was meant specifically for me?
               Why up-vote bon’s post? Why up-vote bon’s recent post over at Amren on this thread when bon was spewing lies about me?Amren mods did not take sides in this matter but you certainly did. You and others from morgoths review, along with bon, came over to dailystormer to attack me. It was really pathetic and i commented so at the time,ignoring your comments, but specifically replying to bon.Such a shameful show from mods and “friends” of morgoth review! Good for you and others that written record is no longer available. So you do not mind flinging your feces on other peoples “turf” but you mind who “feuds” on yours even though it is you and bon that set it up to make that happen…For the readers,here is the link that motivated copyright and bon to entice me to morgoths review by making a post that would get a response from me and thereupon having my reply removed. YOU set it up…
               http://www.amren.com/news/2016/02/conservatives-have-failed-donald-trumps-supporters/
               Read maddies disqus history
               I know nothing about bypassing an i.p. ban. Even if i did i would never attempt to do so. Amren has a partial ban on me and two other aliases of mine. Liddell once had a full i.p.ban on me but took it off. Dailyslave had a partial ban on me, just my moniker razor,never a full i.p.ban…Morgoth review had a partial ban on me, not like a full i.p.ban they have on me now. I never used any thing to bypass an i.p. ban…if YOU and your pals auger and bon had their way i would be banned from disqus. You up-voted every comment that auger and bon made at Amren where they spent considerable time,dozens of post back on forth, on how they were going to get me banned from disqus…
               http://www.amren.com/news/2015/06/donald-trump-announces-he-is-running-for-president-because-the-united-states-is-a-dumping-ground-for-everybody-elses-problems/
               So just like a jew, you create the conditions for a “feud” to begin, and then immediately blame the target for causing the “feud.”
               You never removed bon’s FEUDAL posts did you…,but thats because you can’t allow “feuds” on your “turf.”
               Got it.

          188. maddie151 Copyright101 an hour ago
               I know you banned me. Kudos to you for finally admitting it. As you well know i posted a comment to you at TRS to come have a chat with me over at Trad Youth site.
               Regardless, your ban of me was okayed by morgoth.It had to be approved by him first.
               Regarding what YOU call “feuds.” i witnessed quite a few of them on that Christianity thread where you i.p.banned me.But no-one else was banned for “feuding”, not even that asian gal that was getting your panties in a bunch.
               If you do not want “feuds” on your “turf” then why entice me to respond to a bon post that was meant specifically for me?
               Why up-vote bon’s post? Why up-vote bon’s recent post over at Amren on this thread when bon was spewing lies about me?Amren mods did not take sides in this matter but you certainly did. You and others from morgoths review, along with bon, came over to dailystormer to attack me. It was really pathetic and i commented so at the time,ignoring your comments, but specifically replying to bon.Such a shameful show from mods and “friends” of morgoth review! Good for you and others that written record is no longer available. So you do not mind flinging your feces on other peoples “turf” but you mind who “feuds” on yours even though it is you and bon that set it up to make that happen…For the readers,here is the link that motivated copyright and bon to entice me to morgoths review by making a post that would get a response from me and thereupon having my reply removed. YOU set it up…
               http://www.amren.com/news/2016/02/conservatives-have-failed-donald-trumps-supporters/
               Read maddies disqus history
               I know nothing about bypassing an i.p. ban. Even if i did i would never attempt to do so. Amren has a partial ban on me and two other aliases of mine. Liddell once had a full i.p.ban on me but took it off. Dailyslave had a partial ban on me, just my moniker razor,never a full i.p.ban…Morgoth review had a partial ban on me, not like a full i.p.ban they have on me now. I never used any thing to bypass an i.p. ban…if YOU and your pals auger and bon had their way i would be banned from disqus. You up-voted every comment that auger and bon made at Amren where they spent considerable time,dozens of post back on forth, on how they were going to get me banned from disqus…
               http://www.amren.com/news/2015/06/donald-trump-announces-he-is-running-for-president-because-the-united-states-is-a-dumping-ground-for-everybody-elses-problems/
               So just like a jew, you create the conditions for a “feud” to begin, and then immediately blame the target for causing the “feud.”
               You never removed bon’s FEUDAL posts did you…,but thats because you can’t allow “feuds” on your “turf.”
               Got it.
               EDIT: Copyright101 razorrare 4 hours ago
               I banned you, you were winding Bon up. I can’t control what happens off-site but I can’t have your feud on our turf. Thankyou. You know perfectly well an IP ban is easily bypassed so ultimately we have to rely on your good behaviour.

          189. Are you part of admin for Amren? Explain how you were able to post a link at Amren while others can not…
               Discussion on American Renaissance 37 comments
               Migrant Crisis to Cost Germany €50 Billion by 2017
               Copyright101
               Copyright101 Bon, From the Land of Babble a month ago
               The Soviets were always happy to talk up the significance of the eastern front in defeating Germany but it was always a bit of a distortion. Ignoring the blockade of Germany, the bombing campaign as well as the actual fighting done by the west. Downgrading the significance of victories on other areas. And of course ignoring the significance of western aid. This downgrading is left/liberals in the west have always been happy to co-operate with.
               My grandfather participated in Artic convoys to the USSR, I presume in 1941/42. Pretty scary as far as we can tell, he never spoke about really. So Ive always found it annoying to see the way in which the USSR routinely downgraded the significance of western aid in its survival 41/42.
               This article goes into it a bit:
               http://www.historynet.com/did-russia-really-go-it-alone-how-lend-lease-helped-the-soviets-defeat-the-germans.htm
               The USSR received for example 3,600 British tanks (Valentines) 1941-45. Doesn’t sound much, but Germany built less than 16,000 of it’s rough equivalent – the Panzer III to fight on all fronts 1939-45.
               I replied to your comment but it was rejected…cause links are not allowed…
               Discussion on American Renaissance 37 comments
               Migrant Crisis to Cost Germany €50 Billion by 2017
               Enticer26
               Enticer26 Copyright101 a month ago
               Removed
               I have been reading this book of late titled ‘Gods of Eden’ by a William Bramley…on page 262 or maybe 267 it says that in 1762 a small clique of royal german families ruled russia…pretty clandestine how they managed it…the biggest winners of world war 2 was obviously the banking families that profited by supporting all parties/nations involved.
               http://cdn.preterhuman.net/texts/alien.ufo/Bramley,%20William%20-%20The%20Gods%20of%20Eden.pdf

          190. No idea that AmRen didnt like links. It may be that it was held in moderation for a while.

          191. Ive never actually seen your and Bon’s friction first hand – until you made the Maddie comment.
               You make lots of good comments, Ive upvoted you before and I don’t know the source of your conflict with Bon & Augur. They have always been supportive of me and Augur and I have followed each other since before this ID even existed.
               The Asian girl was not the problem. Just because we don’t want feuds doesnt mean they dont happen. All I can do is try and minimise it. By feud I of course I mean between people on our side.
               As for Daily Stormer I was a rare visitor there before they got dumped by Disqus and never since.
               We certainly don’t want any jewish activity at MRev all I can do is appeal to my comment history.

          192. Lies,Lies,and more lies…
               Jewish activity = augur mason but then you approve of his jewish spiel.
               Put this post of mine as a reply to augur’s feudal enticing post…LOL
               Enticer26 America is Kiked an hour ago
               America is Kiked Enticer26 • 2 hours ago
               that’s rather rude. but are they dating? does tony get to hump Norman Bates’ embalmed forebear
               Ask the russian guy that says there is no God…word has it he (Nicholas aka Tony Hayers) has to wait in line before the rest of the fraudulent merry band of british ((( schmucks/putz ))) at morgoths review have their way with her.
               Disclaimer…since this is all created (((morgoth review drama))), my conscience suffers no pang of guilt. No one should talk ill of one’s dearly departed Mother, even if it isn’t true. Nor should any drama whore/agitator like augur mason denigrate Mother’s by using their good name on a message board seeking attention or to be used in other ((( nefarious mind games ))) on the internet.
               Discussion on Morgoth’s Review 445 comments
               Don’t Let Them Take Away Our Christianity.
               Augur Mayson
               Augur Mayson Copyright101 2 days ago
               Like – is it worth me even bothering with this, the minimal level of
               co-operation we need to survive, when a hostile non-white visitor can
               get more respect than me.
               I must say I’ve had the exact same thought myself but about a different person.
               Now, on a completely different note about a different person…
               But Nicholas is a Jew. He’s ostensibly pro-Christian but angrily and hatefully attacks pro-White Jew Namers who don’t fall in line with his plan for Holy Roman Empire Part II. See, I have found almost all my resistance, all my detractors, the e-stalkers, the ones who bring up my dead mother intentionally to try and open old wounds, they’re all people like razorrare and Nicholas….(see how this devious jew throws in my moniker razorrare along with Nicholas, who is in fact Tony Hayers, a supporter of his at morgoth’s review, which exposes the lies that Nicholas was banned from morgoth’s review. Nicholas has been a member of this fraudulent band of British jews for 5+ years. Then these devious jews use Tony Hayer’s alias Nicholas aka America is Kiked as a means of accusing others by guilt of association. If that does not work they simply make up other lies.
               The jewish stench emanating from this augur mason post should be evident to all intelligent, discernable pro-White readers and commenters.

          193. Lol, the jude emperors of morgoths review are bare butt naked…
               Enticer26 Copyright101 11 minutes ago
               Lies,Lies,and more lies…
               Jewish activity = augur mason but then you approve of his jewish spiel.
               Put this post of mine as a reply to augur’s feudal enticing post…LOL
               Enticer26 America is Kiked an hour ago
               America is Kiked Enticer26 • 2 hours ago
               that’s rather rude. but are they dating? does tony get to hump Norman Bates’ embalmed forebear
               Ask the russian guy that says there is no God…word has it he (Nicholas aka Tony Hayers) has to wait in line before the rest of the fraudulent merry band of british ((( schmucks/putz ))) at morgoths review have their way with her.
               Disclaimer…since this is all created (((morgoth review drama))), my conscience suffers no pang of guilt. No one should talk ill of one’s dearly departed Mother, even if it isn’t true. Nor should any drama whore/agitator like augur mason denigrate Mother’s by using their good name on a message board seeking attention or to be used in other ((( nefarious mind games ))) on the internet.
               Discussion on Morgoth’s Review 445 comments
               Don’t Let Them Take Away Our Christianity.
               Augur Mayson
               Augur Mayson Copyright101 2 days ago
               Like – is it worth me even bothering with this, the minimal level of
               co-operation we need to survive, when a hostile non-white visitor can
               get more respect than me.
               I must say I’ve had the exact same thought myself but about a different person.
               Now, on a completely different note about a different person…
               But Nicholas is a Jew. He’s ostensibly pro-Christian but angrily and hatefully attacks pro-White Jew Namers who don’t fall in line with his plan for Holy Roman Empire Part II. See, I have found almost all my resistance, all my detractors, the e-stalkers, the ones who bring up my dead mother intentionally to try and open old wounds, they’re all people like razorrare and Nicholas….(see how this devious jew throws in my moniker razorrare along with Nicholas, who is in fact Tony Hayers, a supporter of his at morgoth’s review, which exposes the lies that Nicholas was banned from morgoth’s review. Nicholas has been a member of this fraudulent band of British jews for 5+ years. Then these devious jews use Tony Hayer’s alias Nicholas aka America is Kiked as a means of accusing others by guilt of association. If that does not work they simply make up other lies.
               The jewish stench emanating from this augur mason post should be evident to all intelligent, discernable pro-White readers and commenters.

          194. Jewish activity includes ban hammering legit pro-White commenters.
               I did not make a maddie comment…i replied with a trolling meme in response to bon’s “feudal” comment and trolling meme, which was much more “feudal” than mine. It had stayed up for more than an hour, until you removed and then got morgoths approval for a full I.P. ban. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fb9c1852ee21ac7e439d86981c22e36e50d7d76043f4d5777a7641da10f3540b.gif https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5624d714deec7393a97e3788ce44768e3de3971676ab5d5e7071d959f13ca690.jpg
               It was bon who was trolling me as a supporter and ally against the ((( bad guys ))) after i had been banned at Amren. For over two years bon trolled me over at Alternative right. But you know this as i know about the merry clique of so-called englishmen every now and then using alternative right threads to converse with each other going back well over two years ago. This included Nicholas, who today uses a much less “feudal” alias Tony Hayers…The gig is up…you fraudulent brits have been exposed.
               Just using the asian gal as an example…there is plenty more. Some of them even involve bon “feuding” with other more long term morgoth followers…” So f**k her.”…does that ring a bell? It should. You up-voted bon’s post in discussion with you. You up-vote like a Kike and you remove posts like a Kike and I.P. ban like a Kike…all actions of yours….actions speak louder than comments.
               For those viewing this, the GIF trolling meme is mine…
               It is should be obvious for any pro-White impartial observer that you.copyright101, does not want anyone to “feud” with another favorited poster on any other site as well, such as Amren. If you do, beware the ban hammer at morgoths review ! LOL…you Kikes have no shame. Nothing but lies and deceit.

          195. I didnt get Morgoth’s approval. Im left to do what I see fit. It was a bad day for me for reasons which Im not going to elaborate on in public.
               I can assure you that Nicholas & Tony are two different people, though they have known each other (online) for some time. Or if they are one and the same then he has gone to near-insane levels of effort to convince me via different email addresses, Disqus accounts, writing styles, IP addresses etc.
               Bon has been fine with me for a year or two, Ive got no reason not to take her side. When she’s at MRev she doesnt cause me any grief. She’s as pro-white as they come. Other than your problems with her you seem like one of the good guys to me the rest of the time.
               As for upvoting her, well I upvote a whole bunch of people that I trust and keep on doing so, often without reading what they say. Maybe thats naive of me but I don’t usually follow someone unless Im first sure they’re sound. That way it saves effort later.
               Is there any way you and her could agree just not to interact with each other?
               As for the kike accusation, I don’t know what to say. I know Im not and I think on the whole my comment history would confirm that but how can I prove it?

          196. Tony and Nicholas are different people.
               Nicholas and Augur don’t get on (I wish they did).
               Nicholas was banned (not by me).
               The dynamics of this are infuriating and depressing to me but essentially mundane matters of inter-personal friction and not part of any wider pattern or conspiracy.

          197. The writing styles of Tony and Niclolas is the same, and even more telling is their exact use of punctuation. If one cares to dredge through mountains of comments made more difficult by videos– impartial observers would agree with me.Their “jewish previews” are identical as well as their abilty to type out comments at sonic speed. They are the same.
               If bon says something that needs correction and i am able to reply, such as i was recently allowed to do over at Amren, i shall do so. However, even if i was taken off the ban at morgoth’s, i will no longer make any comments on morgoths, so that should take care of the problem for you. I no longer comment at alternative right even though i am not banned. Liddell removed a Ursula Haverbeck post of mine and i told him that was the last time i would comment there. That was probably 3 or 4 months ago…so when i say i am not going to be making a comment at morgoths review again regardless of whether i am banned or not, you can be assured i will not be commenting again at morgoths review which includes not commenting to “feudal” comments made by augur or bon. Like alternative right, the site morgoths review has become anathema to me. I have self-banned myself.

          198. This guy:
               razorrare
               Enticer26
               maddie151
               Corin12
               zzz128
               Flanders21
               RareBirds
               Dovercrest
               Glickstein44
               Gertuden
               Zelbert
               who is all the same exact person,
               has stalked me and stalked Bon, following us between a hundred and two hundred times a day. Hatefully attacks me and Bon and has others, calling us Jews and slam downvoting our posts with varying numbers of presumably these same alts, with different amounts of slam downvotes roughly correlated to 1) how spergy he’s feeling today and 2) how long it’s been since your last interaction with him.
               He is having a conversation with himself here at Alt-Right, lying to Greg Spencer, and he’s using his alts to have fake conversations with the guy to fluff his earlier post:
               http://i.imgur.com/MxUrHXi.jpg
               That’s what you’re dealing with right now, chatting, having tea. Please don’t explain to one of the most devious, committed, destructive people I’ve ever met any tips about inner workings of relationships or rivalries relating to either me or Bon…

          199. http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/07/19/article-2176012-122BA63F000005DC-391_634x830.jpg

          200. http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/07/19/article-2176012-122BA63F000005DC-391_634x830.jpg

          201. Augro was using The Royal “We”. She’s a real mean queen.

          202. Agro Mayergold: “cocksucking moron” — haha, you scored a double bullseye there.

          203. You wrote so many hate-facts!
               “the left will always approve of a Middle Eastern misogynist than a White Nationalist – always.”
               oy vey!
               Bros befo hos is their motto, and bros and his and everyone everything else beef white menz is their M.O.
               However, this following sentence is really a rational invective against Negroes and Wogs, right, since the first sentence doesn’t apply to East Asia, since East Asians (Taiwanese, Korean, Jap) also generally despise Congoloids and Wogs, and I know many White women who are very happy living there too:
               “women don’t desire to live in the societies of non-whites, because they know that it’s White men who produce the kind of societies they desire to live in. If it was made clear to a White woman who dates black men, for example, that she would have to go live in Nigeria or Haiti…”
               There are racial, cultural and ethnic hierarchies, but you’re main point is right White men (and whites in general) have no obligation to give a flying f#ck about the welfare of any non-white.

          204. Re “The alt.right is losing intellectual currency to its more tribal and less gifted advocates.” :
               I think it will fade to an annoyance/irrelevancy because it’s so heavily trolled by k***s and fellow travellers, and is so heavily disproportionately populated by f##gots.
               Also, as it becomes more popular, it inevitably attacks more pedestrian “thinkers”.
               And I personally think it’s too caught up in Trumpism — the reasons I understand, but I think they will regret the current close connection in future.

          205. If Roosh-wog has a sister whose smell you can bear, and who doesn’t resemble him, you should knob her and sh!tpost pics of it.

          206. “Whites bedding down with non-Whites.” — you make it sound so romantic. You’re recalling some sheen who broke your heart?

          207. Agro Mayersteinberg: “Whites bedding down with non-Whites.”
               You make it sound so romantic. You’re recalling some she-boon who broke your heart.

          208. Conan?

          209. Sieg Heil!

          210. It’s a fact that she’s a kikess, whatever her DNA is. Anyway, she’s an ugly gross bitch, so why even mention the beast?

          211. Cowardly New World

          212. “I do have a problem with a country invading another country”
               It depends on the reason. Which invasion where you thinking of. Or are you saying all invasions are wrong. Such a position would be foolish.

          213. That got Agro hot!

          214. It’s funny that you wrote, “what is this bullshit all of the sudden?”, right after posting a bullshit assertion (Hitler would have gone on to slaughter all those traditional Christians without resentment.) and a bullshit false-quote (“Christianity is the worst of the regressions that mankind can ever have undergone.” — Adolf Hitler). You should be careful what you write — it makes you sound like a k!ke.

          215. “we dont need to debate you jews anymore, with your talmudist noise. Those days are over. ”
               PRAISE THE LORD and pass the ammo

          216. This is absurd: “The idea that foreign women are exotic is merely lifelong media programming.”
               Exotic <<< “ex”

          217. “What is your “own” group?” — you know your group, Shlomo

          218. Social pressure can be as effective, or more

          219. “Do you mean like how Stalin did it?” — is that some version of Godwin’s Law?

          220. Very perceptive! : “The writing styles of Tony and Niclolas is the same, and even more telling is their exact use of punctuation. If one cares to dredge through mountains of comments made more difficult by videos– impartial observers would agree with me.Their “jewish previews” are identical as well as their abilty to type out comments at sonic speed. They are the same.”

          221. They are not the same person. I talk to Tony regularly, he routinely refers to Nicholas in the 3rd person and at no time gives the impression of being the same person. Unless he’s completely insane of course.

          222. Im just trying to see if there is any way of resolving any of this. Probably futile but worth a try I feel.
               Please don’t explain to one of the most devious, committed, destructive people I’ve ever met any tips about inner workings of relationships or rivalries relating to either me or Bon…
               I’m not, I’m restricting myself to stuff I personally know about, that I know is not part of any conspiratorial activity. Nothing to do with you and Bon. Perhaps in the past, just possibly, he has joined dots that weren’t actually connected?
               Perhaps, just possibly, all of this is a big misunderstanding on his part? He’s certainly misreading the Tony/Nicholas thing. Is it deliberate or is it genuine misunderstanding. If we can try and rule out the misunderstandings then we’re left with – him doing it deliberately.

          223. LOL! No it isn’t, I mean the point sincerely. Btw, it’s interesting that we all know the crimes of Hitler quite but Stalin’s are shrouded in mystery. I wonder why…

          224. “it’s interesting that we all know the crimes of Hitler” — you lost me there.
               btw, you’ll prob. note that Stalin’s main biographers all echo.

          225. Ah so you don’t believe Hitler committed any crimes?

          226. You are illiterate

          227. You posted “Don’t Let Them Take Away Our Christianity” and the usual scum at Mortgage’s Rejew proceeded to shit all over you and indeed “take away our Christianity”, with the usual boring and stupid “arguments” and non-facts. This cunt, Motherfucker Mayson, gleefully spewed his anti-Christ diarrhoea all over your face.

          228. they’re all nuts! don’t trust anyone! except me

          229. Agro Motherfucker Mayson is a lowlife degenerate sack of shit.

          230. “if they are one and the same then he has gone to near-insane levels of effort to convince me via different email addresses, Disqus accounts, writing styles, IP addresses etc.” — I wouldn’t put anything past them!

          231. Is it true that Bon’s a dyke? I’s just askin bro. Also, I heard there was some sad sack at Mortgage’s Rejew that supposedly got some young pussy that then came and pissed all over the Rejew and there was all sorts of the usual twitfuckery hither and thither. Since it’s a coon’s age between my descents into that swamp of kikery, can you confirm or deny these vicious rumours?

          232. Hey, wake up, they think you’re a sad cunt. Mortgage is a bitch and Agro is a motherfucker. Whatever, it’s your funeral. You got trashed and Mortgage shoved the dildo in deeper.
               [to yet another fake jap, uprooted by Mortgage for trashing you: “Don’t fret love, it;’s quite clear that your helpful suggestions at this site are more welcome than mine. Its obvious that despite my dispensing 100s of thousands of upvotes, making supportive comments, swapping links and encouraging other people to visit here (and MR in the past) are as nothing to your towering contributions.”]

          233. “don’t insult my intelligence” — that’d be like insulting Kanye’s sense of decorum nowotimsayin?

          234. don’t bother debating with a cunt. well, some advice. sometimes i forget my own advice too…

          235. “augur is free to constantly and repeatedly attack and agitate other posters of the Christian Faith (he/she/it has made more anti-Christ posts than anti-Jew posts in the last two years) and this is fine by you”…because Mortgage is a typical Anglo dead-soul Satanic sack of shit, end of. It’s because of cunts like him that the UK is a sewer.

          236. “Perhaps, just possibly, all of this is a big misunderstanding on his part”
               Spam following me 100+ times a day for two weeks, me removing him, him refollowing each time, every single day is a big ‘misunderstanding’ on his part?
               I don’t need to use fancy logic to know he’s a Jew stalker who’s anti-White and more interested in destroying pro-Whites pushing the secular race-based initiative we need than in anything else. I’ve been on the receiving end of his attention for years.
               This willingness to believe he’s just making a mistake, has just been bashed around a bit, is maybe a bit dodgy is all, unforgivable to me. You know full well the shit this guy has put me through. Serially downvoting with multiple accounts? Having conversations with his own alts as if they were different people? Stalking.
               Genuine misunderstanding, lol. You limeys are worthless with your fucking constant pussiness and willingness to believe anything. Why don’t you tell me how Christianity predates Judaism again?
               [EDIT: I’m leaving all I said before ‘cuz I meant it. I’m adding this though: Look at what razorrare has done here. He aired dirty laundry from one place at another place, known rival place, talking about yet some other place. He is going for maximum destructive effect. You fucking need to pull your head out of your ass.]

          237. The trouble is, until the other day with Bon, I’d never seen him actively trolling either of you. I know it’s happened but whenever I’ve looked in on a thread it’s all been deleted.
               I just want to establish, beyond all doubt, that he’s not obsessing over some imagined sleight in the past, rather than actively targeting you.
               He is going for maximum destructive effect
               But it’s not having an effect, we’re just talking about it. He’s banned from MRev, you’re not.

          238. Sweet Jesus, Copyright, can you hear the tone of my voice in my head, brother?
               I love you, dude (no homo)
               I love reaching across The Pond, my longstanding Anglophile self, imagining bridging cultural gaps to rise against the common foe.
               Look at what this other guy has done to me man. Please.
               Try to understand this is like if Robin Givens ran screaming to the police to tell them about Mike Tyson, and they said, “Yeah, Mr. Tyson is a very respected member of the community, he’s a hell of a good fighter. Do you think maybe you could have him sign this for my son?”

          239. No, dude, I mean what he’s doing is asking MRev stuff here at Roosh’s site, and his questions are done with knowledge of recent falling out between Alt-Right and manosphere, as well as him yanking in other things to the discussion, as he did by evoking me with use of my name, which is why I’m here. I’m not some random tumbleweed. He called me a … he stalked me across – dude, I filed a harassment complaint with Disquss ffs. This is that guy.
               And now he’s got me yammering on about this here too. “Mazel Tov!” he’s probably saying right now. It’s a f^cking symphony of mass destruction. Can’t you hear it?

          240. You’re kidding right? I’ve explained all of this to you, Copyright, clearly.
               He follows me across forums – I have never followed him anywhere, I want him to leave me the hell alone, ffs.
               Tried to follow me 200X over the course of a weekend, all night, as fast as I could delete the following, here he was again. What kind of behavior do you think that is if not obsessive and delusional. No I have no proof and it appears you believe neither me nor Augur on this matter. I’m glad it didn’t happen to you but in a way I wish it had b/c then you’d know what we’ve been through.
               Now he’s busy trying to recruit others on different forums to join in the harassment – and that’s what it is, harassment and stalking on his part NOT MINE.
               Again, I wish to be no part of this, to be left alone to comment in peace – but every time I do, he finds me, including scrolling through over 500 comments to find MY one comment (my account was closed at the time).
               OK- how does that work? Maybe you can explain to me how this is a “feud” when it is 100% one-sided.
               What would YOU suggest? And when you are busy “having tea” with this guy as Augur says, how do you think we view that?

          241. Meaningless.

          242. Do you know what I hate the most? People that say that a certain argument is false because the evidence is faulty without even providing evidence for that claim themselves.
               How utterly depraved.
               You do not surprise me though.

          243. If you know of a manner in which to resolve this (as I told you in an e mail) then I’m all ears.
               What would you suggest I do after someone spam follows me 200X, tries to recruit others to attack me, scrolls through 500 comments to find my ONE comment in order to stalk and harass me.
               I have done none of this to him.
               How would you suggest I put a stop to this, Copyright? I’m all ears and await your answer.
               What shocks me is that you seem to consider this a “minor feud” and not the serious matter that it is – when I cannot even fucking post on Disqus without him coming after him in the most vicious manner possible.
               The only thing that work is banning – and American Renaissance, InfoStormer, Daily Stormer and MRev had the good sense to do just that.
               Are they all wrong or is it all just a “minor misunderstanding?”
               How is that a feud? The only solution is to ban-hammer him

          244. So saitheth a mod who gave me the ban hammer all predicated on lies and B.S. and who has still not removed augs free mayson and bon’s FEUDAL posts. So still a big Fuck U to U !

          245. Copy B Good removed ur feudal posts too….sheeeeeit

          246. now U B talkin bro !

          247. bravo…well said.

          248. Well… you have me there.

          249. Pass this on to the dumb c**t mayson since he has a prob with reading accurately my disqus…my first invite was here…but no one came to shoot the sh!t…boo hoo
               …and since i was banned from Morgoths Review, i went to Morgoths disqus history and used the very first post morgoth made which was made here at Return of Kings to contact him and get his attention…nothing devious or intentional about it as augur is suggesting.
               Discussion on Traditionalist Youth Network 557 comments
               Regarding the Trump Rally in Louisville and Black Lives Matter
               razorrare
               razorrare razorrare 4 days ago
               An invite to morgoth and mods…come on over and lets chat.
               This is the very definition of “Targeted Harassment” and unlike bon, augur and others, i never whined to disqus about being “targeted/trolled” or anyone else for that matter. Its anti-Whites like these that are in effect trying to end free discussion on disqus by making complaints…correcting a poster is not targeted harassment or trolling. I believe that was what got dailystormer to lose its disqus privileges,or at the very least was a part of the reason…they had stated because of the numerous complaints sent to them by other commenters dailystormer was to lose their disqus privileges. Others need to read this link, to understand that the players involved in conspiring to have me banned from disqus is more than likely the same players that sent in complaints to disqus about dailystormer…if you should ban auger and bon i would expect disqus would be sending you a notice of denial for privileges also…the left/right/jew does not play or fight fair but aug insist White advocates plays fair with the left/right/jew. That alone should be enough to out him as the enemy/adversary of White advocacy.
               Anglin has made a big mistake allowing augur and bon to post on their new format. They can not now be denied service of course, but both bon and augur are agitators and by their own admission “snitches.” Augur’s thread, “Russian gets a Year for saying “there is no God” is a good example of an attempt to agitate and create division and a violation of Anglin’s Rules,(even though he stated that thread did not violate the rules,in my opinion it certainly did)….which he has done consistently for the past 3 years or more.
               Anglin should have listened to Longshanks regarding augur.
               http://www.amren.com/news/2015/06/donald-trump-announces-he-is-running-for-president-because-the-united-states-is-a-dumping-ground-for-everybody-elses-problems/

          250. Lol…see augur’s above post…”gleefully advocating miscegenation.”…Thats why i felt it important that other readers at Amren should be made aware of the source that bon was using to support his/her/it comment and instead of thanking me for that info, she/he/it is spewing forth lies about me trolling he/she/it…Ironic is it not, that Morgoth approved of my banishment while critiquing Roosh on the evils of miscegenation and the harmful effects of it on Western Civilization while approving of bon’s indirect endorsement of miscegenation by using anti-White pro-miscegegationist bird man bryant as a source…no ban for bon bon…obviously Morgoth is cool with dykes,fags, and pro-miscegenist slinging feces all over his site,,,
               maddie151 Bon, From the Land of Babble 18 days ago
               Why do you use “Birdman” as a source?
               Birdman seems to have been a Frankfurt School devotee who was dedicated to the destruction of Western Civilization. It is said that Herbert Marcuse coined the phrase “make love not war” as a mean to achieve that end.
               Birdman regarded porn as a social good.
               Birdman bragged how he took SAM FRANCIS to the woodshed over his sexophobic attitude towards porn.
               Birdman used porn to promote miscegenation.
               Excerpt of Barrett response to Birdman…
               >It was not until someone on the Samuel Francis site pointed out — and you
               >confirmed — that
               >there was actual pornography on your site — depicting Orientals and
               >Negroes, as well
               >as whites — that I was alerted to the smut matter. In fact, I then
               >checked for myself and
               >found the pornogpaphy of the Larry Flynt and Bob Guccione variety. Read more–ON PORN: THE BIRDMAN-BARRETT CORRESPONDENCE
               Please use more credible sources than Birdman or wikipedia.
               Lol…bon was pleading with Amren mods to have me banned and my post removed but to no avail. That is why bon has not made a comment at Amren for 3 weeks…
               When someone corrects me i am more than happy to thank them…now it/bon is spewing forth lies to Copyright that i was banned from Dailystormer!

          251. All invasions are wrong….period. There is never a reason for a people to invade another country unless the people of that country wanted/allowed it. That is the problem with the US right now…we invade everyone and then get mad when the people of that country no longer like us. It’s insane.
               The Nazi should have just kicked the Jews out of their country and then controlled their own country. Not other’s. However, if other countries wanted to invite them in…then so be it. Just like Ukraine. If those people want to be apart of Russia..then let them. Who cares? It’s their choice.

          252. I never said it was a minor feud. Where did I say that?
               This is the first time Ive directly witnessed any of this as it happens.
               My hope was that if he would just leave you alone then there would be nothing more to be said.
               The only thing that work is banning – and American Renaissance, InfoStormer, Daily Stormer and MRev had the good sense to do just that.
               Yes. And it was I who banned him at MRev.

          253. Yes you explained it but I’d still never actually seen it in an actual thread.

          254. You’re just covering up for them as part of the conspiracy!

          255. ” sticking your dick in a non-White.” — you wish

          256. “I’m not shitting on non-Whites.”
               Au contraire, n’est-ce pas?
               I bet you pay niggers to shit in your mouth.
               Live and live…

          257. “All invasions are wrong….period” — that’s such a moronic thing to say.
               Anyway, at least you condemn the UN Allies-fags’ invasions of Iceland and France and Iran and Japan.

          258. ah keeps muh white biotches in line, don you worry, sho nuff, shee-itt!

          259. I bet you looked in the mirror while reciting that, while fapping all over your mortgage.

          260. “I banned you, you were winding Bon up.” — white knight 😉

          261. “Only dignity and morals matter.”
               And dignity and morals require that we smack down The Kike.

          262. Yes, key point: “Every society where white people have become a minority has seen mass violence against those white people. In Haiti, Rhodesia, and South Africa.”

          263. they need to be sent back to niggerland before they make England (and Europe) into niggerland

          264. “obviously Morgoth is cool with dykes,fags, and pro-miscegenist slinging feces all over his site” — it reminds him of his school days, with nignogs fapping all over his face. so I heard. Now he just strokes his mortgage and moans “much…what the fuck to I stand for? sweet fyuck all… ahhhuhhh£[email protected]£ ighhgghghgh….spurge”

          265. …yeh, see my latest post to copyright regarding ” Targeted Harassment “… and the link provided.

          266. trui dat, mah nigggahhhh

          267. but feudalism was a pretty good system, relatively speaking

          268. Do you know what I hate most? Kikes.
               Just kidding. I love everyone.

          269. You should file a human rights complaint. “They wouldn’t let me name The Christ-Killers! Do I not bleed?”

          270. You’re right there about kikey Augro bitching to disqus. that cunt is always trying to get people banned. He’ll get his in the end, and not i the way he likes.

          271. ” Augur’s thread Russian gets a Year for saying “there is no God” is a good example of an attempt to agitate and create division…which he has done consistently for the past 3 years or more.” — yeah, he posted the same shit at Stormfags to gloat about Christian threads being banned while faggots like him get to attack Christians and promote all kinds of kikeryfaggotry

          272. he’s a lunatic narcissist with a mother fetish: “the ones who bring up my dead mother intentionally to try and open old wounds,” — who knew or cared about his aul’ mammy?

          273. Really. I hope you don’t think that I or Augur made all of this up.
               Daily Stormer. Info Stormer. American Renaissance. MRev (which you saw). I don’t save things like that but when it becomes relentless, then it is a problem.

          274. Thanks. I know. And I appreciate it, especially after AmRen refused – after they’d previously banned him.
               AmRen can beg him for a twice-yearly donation now instead of me.

          275. I can attest that you are not inventing it. I’ve seen him trolling you. I thought he’d seen sense and stopped but then I saw that thread on Amren couple of weeks ago. You have my sympathy.

          276. I don’t care about your opinion.

          277. Again, I don’t care about your opinion.

          278. It is a bit disheartening to disagree or criticize someone who actually, enthusiastically, champions you – as you have done and I do appreciate it – but that is precisely what I must do.
               “WOG”: definition: a person who is not White.
               Are East Asians White? If not then they are, definitively, wogs and my comment logically applied to them as well. Lions might be smarter than bears but I wouldn’t want lions around me anymore than I would bears; a wild animal is a wild animal. The issue here is not whether East Asians are smart – I believe they are smart, though not as smart, or as creative, as Whites – nor whether they make viable societies, the issue is White identity politics and genetic survival – which would logically dissociate and exclude every and all wogs, including East Asians.
               As for White women living in East Asia, there is no place – repeat, no place – for multiracialism and interracial couples [or people] in White ethno-states. White women who desire to live in East Asian societies may do so, that is their choice, but only on the understanding that once doing so they will be barred from returning to Europe [or the West] – especially after they’ve engaged in interracial acts and/or have interracial families – that is a choice they DO NOT have. They will be disconnected completely and indefinitely from White civilization. As I said, it’s a choice they’re going to have to make – and one they should compulsively ponder before going through with. But as I said, there is no place in White ethno-states for multiracialism or interracial couples or people – Negroes or Orientals, mulattoes or Eurasians.
               The hatred that East Asians possibly foment towards Arabs or Africans doesn’t make them any more contrastable with Whites. The enemy of one’s enemy is not necessarily one’s friend. In fact, I’d argue that Asians are equally if not more of a threat to the White race as Africans or Arabs are. The existential meaning of all non-Whites is simply rejection and hatred of the West – as illustrated by Francis Parker Yockey in IMPERIUM. Asians see themselves as part of the World of Color perpetually at war with the White man. Collectively, Asians hate Whites, and may actually hate Whites more than other races, because the higher intelligence of Asians makes them realize how close they are to Whites, yet so far away. In Negroes, low intelligence coupled to ludicrously undeserved high self-esteem, and low levels of anxiety, temper the degree of racial envy. In high-anxiety, high-intelligence, lower self-esteem Asians, the racial envy toward Whites is at a high level, and Asians as a race-culture can be viewed as an existential negation of European Man and of the West. Anything that helps Whites will be opposed by Asians, and anything that harms Whites will be supported. I see no evidence to suggest otherwise.
               Bottom line, I no more want Asians living in Europe than I do Arabs or Ugandans, nor am I any more comfortable with interracial unions between Whites and Asians than I am Whites and Negroes, and I am as equally opposed to Asians demographically replacing Whites in our own towns and universities as I am Australoids. Racial nationalism IS racial nationalism; I oppose all forms of multiculturalism and interracialism. I don’t have any personal problem with Asians mind you, but they’re not White, they aren’t us – they’re part of the World of Color. And, as the boys over at TRS would say, they [Asians] don’t belong in the West and “have got to go back.”

          279. Foolishness.
               I never said that East Asians are white, or anything so stupid.
               Wog is slang. It has no precise definition. Wogs are generally greasy Arabs and Pakis and ME-types. Non-whites, non-nibs, non-Chinks, non-Amerindians.
               Anyway the point was that Whites can and do live well in East Asia, and East Asia is not like Niggerland or Parkland or Muzwoglamd.

          280. ” Anything that helps Whites will be opposed by Asians, and anything that harms Whites will be supported. I see no evidence to suggest otherwise.”
               complete rubbish. most Asians are pro-white and can’t stand niggers and other inferior races.

          281. yeh well, bon also claimed i was responsible for Anglin removing a post of his and when i asked bon to post the comment (comments removed remain in your posting history) he never responded back. He lied under his aliases juggernaut3000 and mergatroyd and others as well…disqus has never mailed me any notice, have not contacted me in anyway,in response to allegations made by augur and bon…he really is a sociopathic liar.

          282. Why are you acting retarded? How many times have i got to say it? I have never been full i.p. banned by Amren, same for infostormer, NEVER BANNED AT DAILYSTORMER.

          283. Thank You, friend.
               I appreciate the support – more than you’ll ever know, more than you can imagine.

          284. Copy’s not answering. He might be annoyed with me….

          285. I know you will keep them in line… in a line that ends on her knees at the feet of a black man

          286. Copy still luvs ya though. He never up-voted this comment…
               Morgoth a day ago
               I know I shouldn’t do it but it has to be said, banning this cunt was the best ever thing to happen to the comments here. Just look at the crap which he spews out, day in day out.
               Just read through some of this and imagine it sprayed all over the comments here. I’d also suggest to any other site admins who have to put up with this prick, why bother?
               https://disqus.com/by/AmericaI…
               Thumbnail
               13
               However, Copy up-voted this lying Christ hating Kike’s faggot comment…
               Discussion on Morgoth’s Review 521 comments
               Don’t Let Them Take Away Our Christianity.
               mancinblack
               mancinblack Kumiko Oumae 2 days ago
               Thanks for your input on this thread, by the way. Some of us have appreciated it.
               6
               Kumiko is the dyke jap poster who tied copy’s knickers into knots…is copy retarded or spiritually weak or both?
               …judging from the flow of comments at morgoths it seems the thrill B gone.

          287. The Mortgagers treat Copy101 like their …. Oh, I’d better not say.
               As for my “spewing” — I didn’t write like that there until after they banned me for being anti-Kike, anti-Nigger and pro-Christian. I don’t know why I was temporarily able to post there. I just made some comment, then remembered I was banned, then was surprised to see the comment online, so took the opportunity to AK-47 the whorehouse.

          288. Maddie151: “is copy retarded or spiritually weak or both?”
               Ouch! Harsh….

          289. Be careful. I have magic powers.
               Agro Mayersteinberg to me:
               “You raised my dead mother from her grave for about the third time in as many days.”
               I’m his Christ.
               https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/41d4e9eb0bef1aa17596d8df8b54dcbde5d03551a87853453383b0da6fc2ae01.png

          290. You and Copy101 and Norty Nina are all the same person! You Taffies can’t fool me!

          291. You and Norty Nina and Enticer26 and Razor are all the same person. You and your cabal of Taffies can’t fool me! Any denials are proof of guilt!

          292. “As for Daily Stormer I was a rare visitor there before they got dumped by Disqus and never since.”
               The Comments are rancid with shitkikes, but it’s often good for a laugh at least, and often very informative.
               Anglin’s a Stakhanovite Octoroon.
               Those with a sense of humour shall inherit the Internet.

          293. Oy vey! Pissing in the wind! Trying to rally support from backstabbing faggots:
               Copyright101 6 days ago
               “Thanks for all the support guys, it tells me a lot.
               “Like – is it worth me even bothering with this, the minimal level of co-operation we need to survive, when a hostile non-white visitor can get more respect than me.
               “We must have mutual trust, co-operation, synergy. Because who knows, in a few years we could be seeing open warfare in Europe and I’m supposed to expect you guys to have my back in a trench but I can’t even get that support on a fucking website. We can cast out one of our own for saying **** too much but we can banter with some Asian whose only verifiable track record is helping to destroy MR?
               “FFS.”

          294. good job…you were doing the Lord’s work. They need to wake the effing up and embrace Christianity.
               This guy is doing the Good Lord’s work too…Duke is good but this guy is a better Christian and role model. Say hi to the good folks for me over at DStormer…Trump/Edwards 2016
               [audio src="http://www.lnrlive.com/tpc/tpc20160305a.mp3" /]
               razorrare

          295. …a time to be harsh and a time to be nice.

          296. The Political Cesspool? Sometimes interesting, but they often have that Kike Gottfried (Dick Spencer’s master) on, and suck up to him.

          297. Copywright, sometimes when I click on an old link to a blog, I get the old version and the new version does not show up. Perhaps that is why one of you can see it and the other does not.
               If this guy is a Jew (there is little doubt about that) does he get paid to troll by Israel or does he do it because he likes to see the reaction from Bon?

          298. Bon, I would say chill out a little and don’t worry about it.

          299. I just looked into it more also and I don’t see it either. There is just a couple small comments that lead me to think divide and conquer techniques. People who are in the movement are often just disagreeable and have difficult personalities. It is the personality trait that gets people to go after the Jews as well as going after each other also. Division tears a White organization apart faster and more complete than the enemy can. Without a strong leader, like Dr. Pierce was in the National Alliance, pro-White organizations don’t last long. Personality divisions rip them apart.

          300. LOL…tell that to the presstitutes.

          301. lol…and then copy upvotes this post.
               mancinblack Kumiko Oumae 2 days ago
               Thanks for your input on this thread, by the way. Some of us have appreciated it.
               6

          302. I didn’t say that you said East Asians were White, I asked an obviously sardonic (and obviously rhetorical) question.
               The official/unofficial definition of “wogs,” as a stated previously, is a person or persons who are not White – it did not get into the specific ethnicities, and frankly I don’t much care. When you wrote that “East Asians hate wogs” you implied – unknowingly perhaps, to give the benefit of the doubt – that East Asians were NOT wogs – which would only be the case if East Asians were White. Anyway, the underlining of your comment – perhaps inadvertently, again to give the benefit of the doubt – implied that Europeans and East Asians were somehow the same or have enough in common where little or no distinctions can or should be made between them – I was merely correcting that possible (and obviously) nonsensical fallacy. East Asians are EQUALLY as much outsiders and as much of a biological threat to White demographics as Negroes and Arabs are.
               I never said East Asia was some third world cesspool – and it’s rather disingenuous to suggest that I had. I’m sure that East Asia is a wonderland – well, Japan anyway, I have my doubts about North Korea and China. That said, Europeans and East Asians are VERY different and incompatible people, with VERY different and incompatible traditions, cultures and identities, and who create VERY different and incompatible societies and civilizations.

          303. “you…implied that Europeans and East Asians were somehow the same or have enough in common where little or no distinctions can or should be made between them” — no. I said that many Whites can and do live well in East Asia.

          304. Well, anyway, as long as we all agree that Mortgage is a cunt.

          305. Complete rubbish you say? Read the articles “Henry Yu Believes Canada Must Become Asian To Overcome White Supremacy” and “Trump From a EuroCanadian Perspective” at Eurocanadian.com.
               Also, as a White person, I do actually consider Asians to be an inferior race – not in the same context as Negroids or Australoids perhaps – but nowhere near as intrepid and innovative as Whites. I believe European colonialism and industrialism – which I believe Asians whine and utilize as an excuse for “gives me dat” and pushing White guilt every bit as much as other “minorities” – equally benefitted Asia every bit as much as it did Africa; and without it Asians would still be living in the rice paddies we found them in.
               Granted, China and Japan both produced sophisticated civilizations – once …. thousands of years ago – but they stagnated. China stagnated for more than 1,500 years, and hasn’t produced any significant innovation since. If you were to ask someone to list a few Chinese inventions all you’ll get are things invented literally hundreds perhaps even thousands of years ago.
               With the exception of perhaps Japan, all of Asia was directly (or indirectly) under European colonial rule at one point – and all were better off, and haven’t had any success since decolonization. Singapore and Hong Kong – the richest most structured economies in the Orient – were in fact established by Europeans, not the Oriental natives. But I digress. East Asians are a unique people, with unique cultures and histories – but they aren’t equal to Whites, nor are they preferable suitors for Whites, and they no more have a place in or claim to Western civilization than Africans or Arabs do.

          306. sometimes when I click on an old link to a blog, I get the old version and the new version does not show up
               Sometimes, even more extreme, the original thread or article no longer even exists. Except it does – within Disqus! There are some old 2015 threads on UK newspaper sites that have all abandoned Disqus and the threads are no longer even visible if you check the articles they were attached to. But I can still see those threads through the Disqus dashboard and up/down vote, maybe even comment.
               does he get paid to troll by Israel or does he do it because he likes to see the reaction from Bon?
               Just don’t know. We know there are the sponsored hasbarats, maybe not paid but certainly provided with software, facilities, coordination etc Both inside Israel and beyond. But there must also be unpaid, uncoordinated irregulars, much like our side. I think he’s probably the latter, its hardly efficient use of their time just to harass a couple of our guys – given we outnumber them so heavily.

          307. “complete rubbish” because it’s not what I was talking about in the first place

          308. Lucifer isn’t all bad. He has pretty good deals!
               Aves Luciferi.

          309. kikefag

          310. You can’t think of anything more clever?

          311. kikefag

          312. kikefag

          313. A few months ago, on the ‘mancnoir’ account I was using and later closed, I posted a comment in which I referred to ‘Nico’ and something he had been talking about. A couple of minutes later Tony Hayers replied to me. The first line of his reply read Talk of the Devil as in ‘talk of the Devil and he’ll appear’. This confirmed to me that Nico and Tony are one and the same, which is something I’d suspected for some time. This raises a few questions, no ? If you want to reply to me, please close your account first, as this should be kept as confidential as possible.

          314. I do not wish to close this account.
               Is there any other way I can reply to you? Can you get me your e mail?
               I agree, this is not the place.

          315. If you are here now I’ll give you my mail

          316. I’m here.

          317. [email protected]

          318. Got it.

          319. I’ll delete my comments now 🙂

          320. Low IQ?

          321. kikefag

          322. I’m trying social pressure at the moment. It is looking better each day; I leave violence as a last resort.

          323. I’ll take any ticket out of this nightmare. If I can’t kill them or expel them, turning their tactic against them (total miscegenation) is the next best alternative.

          324. I’m only going to resort to violence if I have to. I am a classical fascist/traditionalist.

       2. The less sh!t-stain skinned amongst Whites, the brighter their futures.
          Ask Russia and E. Europe.

          1. I’m laughing hard because your comments and those of your inbred brothers are discrediting your movement. You’ve hit your peak. Read Roosh’s expository above and then look at the comments of trailer-park dregs – it’s pretty clear why people have given up AltRight – despite it’s little spike in popularity in the last year.

          2. Yup,
             You speak for all of humanity and roosh is omnipotent.
             “Delusions of grandeur” is not a compliment.
             &
             Lithium is your friend.

          3. He said we “hit our peak!”
             Hahahahahahahaha!
             

          4. The African American population is 40,000,000 deriving from around 500,000 slaves brought to America before 1805. That’s your inbred population son. Low IQ low impulse control. Jail fodder. AIDS vector.
             Every black in the US might as well be a cousin.

          5. Right…if only we had the bright future of Bulgaria. smh.

          6. Yes! Pedestalize those white girls. That’s what’s been missing;

          7. Jabba looks like he’s been eating well.

          8. Is this the best you can do?

       3. yea, he basically went blue pilled on race in this article.
          “If you go back far enough we’re all mixed race!”

          1. Which is just as retarded as saying if we go back far enough we’re all single cell organisms.

          2. Re-read. The net takeway is that AltRight thinks you should limit your sexual choices to your race. AltRight pretends to be “race realists” but they are high-school dropouts who bring down the often brilliant (if often wrong) original perspectives of Moldbug. Up your comprehension.

          3. Back across the border with you, Pedro.

          4. (((Moldbug)))
             Lol!
             How many times I have seen (((Moldbug)) referenced at Alt Right sites in the last year?
             Zero.

          5. While you guys are blue pill on women. It seems taking the whole red pill is troublesome for most people, probably due to social pressure (which is engineered) against it. If you want great white societies, restrict women, not men. Men will naturally come home and fight for a nation if women are guaranteed to be loyal, even if they sleep around a little. Women however lack the self-control to calmly assess the incentives of a situation. This is why the rise and fall of every empire has gone from women being restricted to them being ‘liberated’.

          6. How are we blue pilled on women? Nothing you said was noteworthy or unknown.

          7. Roosh thinks he should limit everyone’s sexual choices. He calls his sexual morality “Islam-lite”
             I swear you NRxers are scraping the bottom of the barrel. Or is it just you who has the problem?

       4. The degeneration of culture serves his goals so he conflates it it with Nazis, feminists and incels. He’s a barbarian.

       5. Well said.

    2. Brilliant.

       1. I think it is brilliant how AltRight’s can’t think critically. It proves the OP’s point. Roosh wasn’t talking about WN, he was comparing NeoMasculinity with AltRight. You repeat, repeat, repeat – and anyone who realizes they don’t want to trade feminism’s sexual castigations of men wont’ trade it for yours.

          1. You faggots don’t even have a coherent philosophy. Pretending AlphaFux doesn’t cut it.

          2. Alt right IS Identitarian. Get your own thing.

          3. I think you are not familiar with NeoMasculinity

          4. I’m very familiar with it. It’s the same bullshit as intersectional feminism but in reverse. It’s incoherent rape-faggotry.
             But go on, be all philosophical and give me a run-down of how it’s not complete horseshit for betabux trying to be AlphaFux.

          5. You might actually want to read about it; is not the alpha/beta focus of PUA. AltRight is more like intersectional feminists. Intersec says women are getting the short end of the stick, but especially black women. AltRights in the manosphere agree with men getting shafted today, but say white men are more victimized and criticized than any other men.

          6. There you go again playing around with names and words. You say “rape-faggotry” with so much moral outrage.
             But where is your outrage against the real homosexuals who have always been an openly dominant force in White Nationalist movements?
             You have a lot of nerve to call anything a rape/faggot movement.

          7. Correct. We do not have a coherent philosophy. Imagine that, a big group of different people all have different thoughts and ideas. You fucking homos have no idea what it means to be a man. Go back to whatever swamp you turds came from.

    3. I’m not even that hardcore. I wouldnt send back Raheem Kassan of breitbart for instance. Certainly not before Rachel Maddow.
       But god damn, Raheem doesnt go on twitter deliberately antagonizing us and then complaining when we exclude him

       1. Of course, Rachel Maddow is a Jewess.

          1. She’s catholic, has one jewish grandparent. That is not a jew by any stretch of the imagination. I’m not a fan of hers, but it’s best to be accurate.
             According to you, Horst Mahler and Emil Maurice were probably jews too. It’s this kind of stuff that makes many of you look silly to anyone who understands biology and gene pools.

          2. It’s the bit she identified with. Rachel Maddov.

          3. That’s what everyone who has some token admixture does in modern America. My boss is 1/32 Cherokee and mentions it much more than his dominant Scottish/Irish background.

       2. I would send back everyone in a trailer park and AltRights who claim racial purity and then go watch interracial porn at home.

          1. As soon as you get your beaner ass back to Mexico, chico

          2. Haha, ok. My favorite thing to do is critique WN types and have them call me a Jew, an Asiatic, a kebab; the list goes on.

          3. Pedro, you aren’t fooling anyone.

          4. OK, skeeter.

          5. Go back to slurping your burrito, ese.

          6. Trailerpark
             Oh dear.
             JIDF detected.
             Fuck off hasbarat.

          7. lol i don’t know why you would insist on implying you are a White guy….thats even worse!
             If you aren’t one of those things it’s actually an even bigger insult to you…..some weird pathetic fucked up White faggot cuck filth. It’s better if you’re just brown. Then you get to have some kind of pride and we don’t have to imagine such a pathetic White creature.

          8. Jewdar pingback.

          9. Your favourite thing?

    4. You are right. Some people don’t have a clue about what are talking about.
       1. Race by John R. Baker
       http://www.amazon.com/dp/149121564X/
       2. My Awakening: A Path to Racial Understanding by David Duke
       http://www.amazon.com/dp/1892796007
       3. The Children of Ra: Artistic, Historical, and Genetic Evidence for Ancient White Egypt
       http://www.amazon.com/dp/1491215577/
       4. Arthur Kemp – March of the Titans
       http://marchofthetitans.com/
       – March of the Titans: The Complete History of the White Race: Volume I: The Rise of Europe
       http://www.amazon.com/dp/1480242292/
       – March of the Titans: The Complete History of the White Race: Volume II: Europe and the World
       http://www.amazon.com/dp/1490909133/
       In the meantime we should accept “equality” with them:
       – Woman Blows into Cow Anus to Help Boost Milk Yield
       https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meG0fAUvXr8
       – African culture for everyone
       https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zYdbMQ09EQ

    5. Missing the point
       The so-called Alt-Right encompasses more than white nationalism, and nationalism itself is an ideological concept not bound to any race
       It’s quite clear that Roosh is in general, against the liberal narratives of the day, including multiculturalism. Bashing him for sleeping with European women is woefully shortsighted

       1. Terry, the majority of WN folks don’t do that. Those people are literal basement dwelling cucks. They are neither the bulk, and certainly not the head of WN anywhere. Hitler himself employed many different people of many different races and religions. These people have no idea what they are talking about. Roosh made a mistake posting this article, all he did was anger the Nationalists that were his supporters. Any educated WN disavows silly twitter cucks.

          1. Any educated WN disavows silly twitter cucks.
             Let’s see your behemoth Twitter account then Mr 186 comments, 181 votes.

          2. ‘Muh upvotes and number of comment’
             What the fuck is the altright becoming, reddit?

          3. I wouldnt normally be so vulgar as to comment on such a thing but this dick was dismissing Morgoth as some Twitter lightweight. Someone with a tiny handful of votes and comments cowering behind a private ID is no position to making such a criticism. I want to see his other comments, I want to see his awesome Twitter.

          4. I find that accepting criticism is how I got to the point of questioning the premise of peoples arguments rather than the bullshit they pile on top of it. Understandable on your part; however I want to see twitter burn just because of the fact people have clout by their following rather than their logic.

          5. True, Twitter is crap. It’s purpose is dumb down debate and interaction to the simple minded and emotive.

          6. Mind the faggots.

          7. Herd mentality at its finest.

       2. You’re wasting your time with nuance towards AltRight. I remember years ago when Moldbug and others intellectuals led the movement. Today it is WN although the gift-wrapping suggests its something else.

          1. You lying sacks of shit. The Altright became popular because it was in reaction to neo-reactionaries. I don’t know if you guys are j entryists or just stupid. Either way you are making fools of yourselves.

          2. I think what you’re trying to say is that AltRight is the less intellectual, less philosophical offshoot of NRX. This is the problem; the masses are never equipped for constructing a coherent ideology. (btw, you seem to have a man-crush on me, responding to all my posts)

          3. so you guys are neo-reactionary-reactionaries

       3. You’re misinformed Terry. Roosh deliberately egged on alt-righters time and time again.
          So people didnt like him over time.
          It wasnt any takeover. An it was actually reading the Bang books that caused this.
          If it were simply him sleeping around it would have happened sooner

    6. As a minority, I support protecting the ethnicity of white people from their European countries %100. If I live in a white nation (like Europe), I have to respect their countries and people. I support white nationalists in Europe. If I visit France, I want to see French, Germany I want to see Germans. If I go to the Philippines I want to see Filipinos. I have realized that where white people are a minority everything tends to go to third world standards. You may have historical authority on Europe, on America not so much. It history has been full of complicated issues, especially with the native americans. But America is great because of the white man, and why everyone wants to come here.
       That said, I believe Roosh has been fair in this webpage by treating his white audience with respect. A lot of “your women” have been corrupted and willingly choose other races thanks to the media, cultural influence, etc… Roosh is just providing men advice in how to understand what women want, any race. And that everybody is FREE to choose who to sleep with as long as it is by mutual agreement of course.
       Roosh has provided a voice an forum to white nationalists in here, because I believe he understands (like myself) that the agenda is to eliminate white people in favor of a multicultural world.
       So, if you do not like it here go back to your 14/88 meeting. BTW The Alt-Right was not supposed to be a white nationalist group, just a recognition that every race has their place in their world in order to preserve their heritage and culture, instead of mixing everything.

       1. good post, same sentiments here

       2. You have no idea what you are talking about. The alt right is explicitly a white movement. Why can’t you guys get your own shit? Even this you try to coopt. Are you that uncreative?

          1. Suuure, read Roosh’s article perhaps you’ll learn something.

          2. And why do you have to call it “alt-right” rather than “white nationalism”?
             In this you are exactly like the leftists who tried to call themselves “progressive” instead of “leftist” once they realize the negative connotations that word got due to their own shitty policies and behavior.

          3. most white nationalists dont call themselves alt-right, we are forever outcasts, never mainstream and know we can never be so, we will drag the herd with us after a cataclysm, that is our time to shine, when reality is stark, and the lies of the (((chosen))) no longer hold sway among amongst the exhausted massses

          4. And yet your only metric for how white someone is is how well they parrot your talking points. It is almost guaranteed based on that alone that you will be infiltrated and subverted by jews.

          5. If you want a non-white right wing faction -it already exists Neoreaction.

       3. i think that’s a fair assessment.

       4. The new alt-righters have been beaten down for so long that they are high off of their new found self confidence. They care about chasing the high at this point, not preserving whiteness. Any real analysis of why white people are failing shows that the media brainwashed men to act like women and vice-versa, corrupting women into either miscegenation or childless spinsterhood.

       5. Women “willingly” fuck men they find sexually attractive and/or for some other gain they deem valuable enough for the cause.
          The idea that the media and culture is influencing them to fuck men of other races sounds like denial.
          I always hear stories of handsome black men fucking the ugliest/fattest white women but it doesn’t reflect reality.
          The overwhelming majority of people fuck their SMV equivalents regardless of race.

          1. People are heavily influenced by media and culture that was part of my point. In todays culture I agree with what you say. But there are many commercials where you can see the intention.

          2. I can agree with this to an extent, but then why doesn’t the nice-guy-that-gets-the-girl-at-the-end-of-the-movie never quite work out that way in real life?
             Some how this reoccurring theme doesn’t influence hot women.

       6. The altright still has that sentiment first of all. White Nationalism however is more important because the movement is pretty much entirely white and it’s the nationalism being violated in a severe fashion (immigration).
          I also recall you saying something I hear a lot in the manosphere: that our women betrayed us and chose miscegenation.
          A few responses to that: 1) it’s still rare and tends to be a low quality thing. Strictly speaking white MEN have the better options outside the race but are too selective. So really this is pretty damn principled.
          2) The manosphere also contends women are easily led (or misled) so are they really choosing anything?

    7. Way to dumb down the discussion. The reason people are growing tired of AltRight is that, over time, the bottom-feeders are overwhelming the initial crowd of neoreactionaries who actually had original ideas about governance. People like you. I noticed you didn’t read Roosh’s article. It wasn’t about WN lowlifes; it was about AltRight. The fact that you conflated the two tells us all we need to know. Go back to Stormfront.

       1. Neoreactionaries still exist. Talk to the hestia people. You dipshits just want to be part of something that’s popular. Pathetic.

       2. You mean someone figured out that Moldbug was Jewish.
          One if those Cosmo Globalists…

    8. Roosh is Aryan. “White” is a color, Aryan is a root relating us to our greater ancestors.

       1. makes sense to me. i’ve never understood how persians aren’t white if italians and greeks are.

          1. Persians aren’t White.

          2. why not? because they’re not from europe? other than that, i can’t see much genetic differences between them and italians and greeks.

          3. They originally were, but jews mixed them out of existence the way they’ve done to Europeans throughout history, same as they’re attempting to do now by polluting all bloodlines except their own. Persians had a caste system where Europeans were at the top, which is why they were considered Indo-Aryans, but they’re not anymore.

          4. Italians and Greeks cluster with Europeans if you look at genetic clusters. Persians don’t. The goal of jews is to get as many Europeans to mix out as possible, then when they are minorites in their countries, physically exterminate them. Then they’ll move on to Asians and other races. Whites are first in their sights. Just pay attention to how they’ve subverted our history, our heroes, covered up parts of history where they’ve genocided people (Armenians, Russians, Greeks, and all sorts of genocides throughout the old testament), and how they promote miscegenation endlessly to White people. There is always a White person in all miscegenation propaganda; it’s deliberately aimed at Whites, particularly children.
             I know you have a Latina wife, and that’s your prerogative, but they are literally trying to force this on White children by flooding our nations and demonizing Whites and their history. If they could, they would make it law for Whites to mix out, while using Israel to preserve jews. It’s flat-out evil.

          5. Here’s a book on what they did to Armenians, which they’ve tried to stop from even being called a genocide:
             http://www.amazon.com/Jewish-Genocide-Armenian-Christians/dp/1523357576/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1456326364&sr=8-1&keywords=christopher+jon
             Latinos will come later, as they’re Christians too, but they want Whites first, as they feel as though they’re the main force in their way.

       2. Roosh. Let’s look at the culture here. It’s the RoK board of trustees.

          1. Don’t try to meme, you suck at it.

          2. Different but related author. The possibility of love is perhaps the most subversive thing.

          3. Love doesn’t exist in modern society. It is something born of structure and appreciation, something that women do not have now and thus cannot reciprocate.

          4. thats broadly speaking the takeaway from 1984 anf BNW.

    9. This “Neo-masculinity” shit is the same kind of Jewish divide and conquer as this new wave of intersectional feminism is. There is no universal brotherhood of man, just like there is no universal sisterhood of women. All that tossed right the fuck out the window as soon as Rotherham and Cologne happened. As far as I’m concerned, Neo-masculinity is the same kind of Marxist trash that Neo-feminism is. The only things you have are your race and culture, which are linked to the core. If you don’t care about your heritage, you sure as shit don’t care about your descendants, am I right?

       1. So now Roosh is a Jew. Who knew?

          1. He’s some kinda Rapefugee with a trust fund.

          2. Joooooosh

       2. “The only things you have are your race and culture…”
          no, no that’s not it. See, some people actually achieve things with their lives. You are born with your race and culture. Essentially you are saying that you are nothing more than you were as a suckling babe. I have much more in common with intelligent and successful people than I do with miserable failures who happen to be the same race as I am.

          1. ‘intelligent and successful people’
             Like who? The founders of Western Civilisation, its’ geniuses, who would shudder in their graves to think that what they created would once be populated by pathetic, degenerate castrati like you who care more about getting your nut off in a club skank than fighting for the existence of your people?
             Oh, no you mean faggots like Roosh who calculated lines that allow him to strike up conversations with outgroup women he wants to grope, don’t you? He’s your ‘intelligent’, real man mould, more than likely the father figure you never had. ‘Pathetic’ is too high praise for a man child of your ilk.

          2. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/37179a9378fa718c3cbe8ce71966ed45a92c9f66f88a3228fa80657414f8cb07.gif

          3. The more I read from the Alt. Right the more I imagine a bunch of men who couldn’t stop using their right hand and past memorabilia to verify their worth as people.

          4. That sounds about right. Reminds me of the Illinois Nazi party from the Blues Brothers.

          5. Jesus….it is both astounding and disturbing. Going by America’s favorite topic, colored people, if blacks were a ubiquitous crowning to hide any people of intelligence with that skin tone, white may have the opposite effect of hiding any idiot with that skin tone. Even going so far as to give them a platform to speak on whereas if they were a member of any other race, they would be ousted as the idiotic vermin they are without a second thought. I now have a better idea as to why people make you a little more misanthropic daily.

          6. Don’t forget ‘fat fetishists’. I can’t believe how quickly white women are being let off the hook with all this noise.

          7. That is the elephant in the room isn’t it? No matter what, the white lady is a special snow flake, simply waiting for a strong white male to come around and provide her with a house, 2.5 kids and the largest diamond to accessorize with. They don’t realize all women are following the example of white women when it comes to weight, sexuality, cuckoldry, etc. Guess they can’t wait to go back to the good old days, when their beautiful white wives quietly slept with a black football team and shouted nigger alongside her man at every black rights protest.

          8. It’s the elephant in the room that rarely gets mentioned.

    10. It’s amazing and somewhat disturbing how popular ignorance is.

        1. What are we ignorant of? Why was it waycist to colonise your homelands, yet a White person would have to be ‘ignorant’ to not love seeing their own homelands colonised by your people?

           1. Well you are certainly ignorant of the different between immigration and colonization.

    11. Some diversity is good. It’s the mass immigration that is destructive. France should be primarily French, Japan primarily Japanese.
        Some cross culture is good. Slow exchanges over centuries. Problem is one of degree. Europe needs to block Muslim immigrants.
        I do not really have a problem with the Mexican immigrants here except for one thing. Leftist organizations are programming to hate the USA and telling them they are discriminated against. Also, democrats encourage them to go on welfare.
        I do not have a problem with the ones who come and work hard. And respect things like our 2nd amendment. For me, guns and Christianity are more important than race.

        1. **Naturally occurring exchanges over centuries.
           Do you claim to believe that millions of immigrants from Third World hell-holes were allowed through into so many western countries by accident these past 2 years?
           Maybe the really imagined FEAR of replacement rate was the cause. If so, nobody was being real with the masses about it. And they want to know what the fuck is up, now.

           1. No, elites are shoving them down our throats. Fake patriot neocons foment insurrection, fake humanitarians let n waves of refugees.Patriots and humanitarians both manipulated.

    12. Roosh is as white as any Mediterraneans…and I’m sure many doodoos in the altright don’t consider them white either

        1. i’m new to white separatism, only thought about it much since the neo-nazis started invading the manosphere sites i like. does seem like most of them consider italians and greeks white, which like you point out begs the question why persians wouldn’t be white too.
           maybe they should just pretend roosh is italian and call him rocco. he certainly could pass for italian.

           1. White just means genetically clustering with Europeans.

        2. just because dark skinned arabs have lived in southern italy for 2000 years, thats doesnt make them white. italy is basically a bi-racial nation, white north, sand south…generally.

    13. I am a man who believes there is only one defining factor for people and especially men:
        Achievement. Nothing else.
        Our western culture is for example an achievement. As such it should be protected and supported.
        However, things that you just so happen to be born with are NOT achievements. Just based on these things you do not have a monopoly over culture or any other achievement.
        You can only achieve monopoly over achievements like culture by supporting and partaking in it.
        If you actually are a threat to such things as culture it is obviously best to prevent you from being one.
        This too goes into the defining factor for people. There are people, despite being born to a specific culture, that reject and are even a threat to that culture.
        As such it is the logical conclusion, again, that these people do not deserve to be part of a culture just by happening to be born into it.
        The logical conclusion is that even IF you aren’t born into a specific culture but yet you happen to relish it, protect and advance it you can claim to be part of it with everything that goes alongside it.
        Note: It is NOT a great achievement for a women to work. The greatest achievement for women, also according to their nature, is being a good mother.

        1. Ironic that we’re still in “black history month” when you make this dramatic speech that would get you kicked out of any liberal college in the country and branded a hyperracist — if you said the same words about “black pride.”

           1. Yeah, now that I think about it…

        2. More noise.

    14. The problem is they don’t even know what the genetic basis for whiteness even is. Armenians are haplogroup G, a genocided group of the proto-aryan race which is Y-DNA suprahaplogroup GHIJK. Even Hitler only required that you were half aryan by birth. The people who have taken over the movement tend to be young men who have never had any confidence. Now that they have identity to bolster that, they have gone mad with ego and completely lost sight of the goal of their movement. The very definition of ‘whiteness’ they believe in is more geared towards self-aggrandizement than it is for preserving white genes. They have become a shovel that tries to build furniture.

        1. You have no clue what you’re talking about. NS Germany had a pecking order, and the goal was to work toward purity.
           1/4 jews were required to marry full-blooded Germans
           1/2 jews had to prove loyalty to Germany before getting a German blood certificate
           Emil Maurice was Hitler’s best friend and the architect of the SS, and he was 1/8 jewish.
           Hilter understood the difference between a jew and someone with jewish ancestry. Many alt-righters do not, sadly.

           1. Yes I do, and we cannot begin eugenics unless we recognize that we must start from the diluted base. Racial purity has been severely damaged, and thinking we can start with 5% of the genes in this country (at best) and build a movement that will withstand the world is nothing but LARPing. Stop thinking in the future and return to the present, you haven’t given it enough due thought. Jews are part of GHIJK, haplogroups J1 and J2, yet they presume they have the right to be the only race with the genes for intelligence in the world, which is why they must be destroyed.
              I have a degree in biochemistry, you people use hearsay as a vetting process. Which is why you parrot some feminist talking points. You have been subverted. A strict genetic basis, which we have an ability to do now at a level greater than ever before is needed, as Jews have high social intelligence and are very good at passing themselves off as white when it suits them. The idea of white as a status symbol allows them to do this at alarming speed.

           2. So what would you suggest we do? Just curious. And what do you mean by “diluted base”?
              I’m basically suggesting we work toward something similar as NS Germany, but you’re saying there’s a better way?

           3. Hitler used birth records, I am suggesting genetic testing for R1b (western european), R1a (slavic) and I/I2a (nordic) genetic markers and allowing for breeding within those groups. Jews have kept themselves genetically separate and have very distinct markers, even if they are technically white by my definition, like I said, they wish the destruction of their kin and must be destroyed because of that.
              All races can improve themselves. But it is for them to take up that struggle, I have to protect my bloodline or nothing will be left. Part of doing that is accepting the whole truth, no matter how painful. The disney fairy tale of loyal adventurous women is false; women are happiest and produce more children and men produce empires when under strict monogamy. This is where roosh has a point.
              I see many in the alt-right shaming men, which does nothing because men are naturally polygamous. It is women, who can even incorporate foreign DNA through sperm penetrating somatic cells and the action of transposase, that must be kept in structured society. Destruction of white genes can occur simply from sleeping around before having children.
              Every white empire in the history of the world was based on restricting wanton female sexuality; historically, every society that fell had a period of wanton hedonism from women before hand. If men cannot have children exclusively with one woman, who has not laid with another, the incentive for the creation of society vanishes.
              So Hitler started with diluted bloodlines and set about making them pure and isolating and promoting anomalous traits that correspond to whiteness; namely, extreme levels of intellect. His program was very much about controlling women for the sake of their future and the future of white children. This is not misogyny, but pragmatic sexism: women have have had many partners and are divorced with children are, despite being more subsidized and privileged than any group of humans in the history of man kind, also one of the most unhappy demographics on the planet today and their children are at extreme risk for becoming criminal (something I think stems from a lack of any identity). Whereas women who married young and had many children have less divorces, one of the highest reported degree of happiness, and their children are more likely to be extremely productive members of society. I would rather accept mutual inequality and a high level of well being than have unlimited freedom in a shithole of a culture. The alt-right is the best thing to happen to the west in a while; do not let leftovers from PC think invite its subversion.

           4. Everything you say makes sense. But how do jews get destroyed? By forced assimilation?
              “Jews have kept themselves genetically separate and have very distinct
              markers, even if they are technically white by my definition…”
              I’m assuming you’re talking about Ashkenazim. From the clusters I’ve looked at, they’re Whiter than Italians and Greeks. So what do we do with those who actually assimilated (by this, I mean people like David Beckham, Chris Pine, and Kate Hudson, not the ones who are fully jewish and claim to have assimilated).

           5. Really it is the globalist jews that must be wiped out. They are so evil that they duck responsibility by sacrificing 200,000-300,000 of their own kind (George Soros types). Returning to and enforcing nationalism will destroy their influence over us. If traditionalism is instituted, men can use their households to naturally resist the types of jews who do things like start AshleyMadison.com. This is an evolving problem though; they won’t go out without a fight, and this needs to be implemented before we can find out how they respond.
              First the migrant problem must be dealt with, preferably with minimal casualties but that may be impossible. We have a man pushing for this right now in the election, thank god.
              Then we must remove feminism’s influence. Since no society has ever been able to do this before they were destroyed, I’m going to be honest that any suggestion that can be made will be pure conjecture. My go to was to subject extremely promiscuous women to the treatment the French who slept with Germans or the flappers after the stock market crash received. Women are very empathetic and care about being accepted socially to the point I think this will convert the majority of them back to healthy lifestyles.
              After that we can offer perhaps the only masculinity as an alternative to the barbaric incarnation of my ideas that has arisen in the middle-east. And hopefully cull the allure of Islam that leads women to vote for more refugees to enter their country.
              This fight must be constantly waged. Eventually, we may be able to save J1/J2 by removing the genes for reliance on extreme social intelligence (deception), and maybe even haplogroup G if muslim influence wanes. My answer may not be sufficient for you; I try my best, but we have been brainwashed for so long with the brainwashing being so ubiquitous that we are all fighting in the dark. Which is why most people are only red pilled on one issue or another, and infighting in our channels is common.

           6. You’ve thought this out pretty well. I agree with most of your points. I also think we should breed for beauty as much as possible, as much as intelligence. People seem to be getting uglier due to dysgenics too.
              So you would send all full jews to Israel? Or would we create an ethnostate in North America and move them there?
              What do we do with people like Stefan Molyneux and Scarlet Johannson, who had jewish mothers, but are now in our gene pool? I would want to incorporate them into our gene pool as they have good genes, but I’m sure some wouldn’t want that.

           7. Thank you. After five years of nothing but insults, even from my own family, the solidarity I am enjoying is very encouraging. Beauty is being eroded by our environment, where obesity, self-mutilation and chemicals in food (fake foods, not pure GMOs which are a godsend). I agree that selecting for beauty is a great idea, not because it implies genetic purity but because it implies good decision making of which the benefit will be passed on to the children those couples sire.
              I would think viewing jews would be a test of loyalty; they would marry white, teach loyalty to white states to their children and white values. The problem with Isreal as it exists now is that it is nothing more than a diplomatic rat hole for globalist jews. I would say deportation but Hitler tried that and it didn’t work, so they may have to be excluded on a case by case basis. If we take inventory of each individuals past actions alone, it would preclude any attempts to use deception to escape responsibility, as the elitists do now. If we could isolate zionists to Isreal and use tariffs to ensure they do not have economic hegemony it would be ideal.
              The realist in me is fearing this may come down to violence, though.

           8. Have you read Eustace Mullins’s Biological Jew? It’s probably the most practical way to go about it. Quietly remove them from any position of influence and leave the run-of-the-mill jews alone.
              I’ve thought about the education part too. Remove all the BS antiWhite history, replace it with proWhite history, teach the truth about jews, and absorb those who’ve already begun assimilation and have no background ties to judaism or the jewish community.
              I think it will probably come to violence too, but it’s best to get the ideas out there. When the system comes down, our ideas will be ready to be implemented. The left literally has no ideas except import more brown people to wipe out Whites.
              We’re entering the revolutionary cycle – every 86 years. Old orders are overturned, and our ideas are the best ideas to replace the multicult browning agenda.

    15. Personally I would add that his prescribed sexual morality is actually more controlling than simply banning/discouraging miscegenation

59. Aw Roosh… you should’ve just let it die.

    1. no this is good. This means he will be targeted at any alt right events he tries to stink up

       1. Or… Spencer and Ram Z Paul will double down and try to disavow all ties to any White Nationalist group, causing a split that SPLC shills can easily exploit.

          1. Splc sucks! Morris dees wears pampers.
             #Pinchemayate
             Hahaha tgn strikes again

          2. Haaaaaaa! You’re the funniest thing since Da GBFM! Roosh mad at alt-right cuz sluts get da butthex da btutsx da buttsex when alpha fux beta bux buy dem sluts drinks lolozlzolzolzolzolzolzolzolozlozlzolzolzolzolzolzolzolzolzolzoozozozozozozozzzz

    2. Agree
       I’m disappointed. Why attack guys who agree on most shit.
       He was very correct in identifying what we should focus on, in “The
       American Elites Hate America”. Natalism, Patriarchy, Traditional gender
       roles, skepticism of Israeli interest and so on.
       This article was definitely not a good idea. Most here agree on 90 % on things. Just recently I talked about how nazis were right about certain stuff like the integral family unit and other aspects that are now demonized and
       how jews took advantage of the moral capital post WW2 to promote the
       anti white narative. 90% of people here are redpill. This is useless
       infighting.
       Roosh went wrong in that he is claiming wanting more
       whites and less miscegenation is SJWish because it puts limits on male
       sexuality. I think it’s stupid, this is mostly an american issue anyway.
       There are few asian and african women around me to pursue and I don’t
       care anyway, it’s a non-issue. I wouldn’t care, even if they were.
       I think it mostly comes from his disappointment that the alt-right joined the feminists and attacked him when the community here was vulnerable.
       I am also slightly disappointed in some alt-righters claiming he is a
       rapist. A kebab, fine, rapist no. The reaction against him was somewhat
       hysterical. Even if you are against degenerates or kebabs, he is a drop
       in the bucket. A small issue, compared to what is happening in Europe
       now.
       Roosh burned a bridge for nothing here. The community here
       provided a nice place where a man intelligently pointing out issues with jews or massive ammounts of non-whites would be listened to and agreed.
       Just look at my comment history. Simmilarly, a man who pointed out
       problems with women, modernity, PUA, modern marriage would be
       aknowledged, even by the pro-white side. Just look at some past threads.
       This great mix is what attracted me. It was a bridging point between
       the manosphere and the alt-right. Hell, Roosh pointed out the JQ and
       even upliked explicitly shitlord comments. He even got flack from
       pussied for being too pro-white.
       Now a useless rift was created. The alt right thinks guys here are
       balding PUAs who care nothing more than banging sluts, and ROK thinks
       alt-righters are Illinois nazis, one-sided caricatures. There is truth
       to these statements, but it’s overblown.
       To see this type of useless bickering is saddening. Just recently I saw a
       video that got me so enraged, for the first time in my life I felt like
       starting a murder spree, and I don’t say this lightly. This was the
       first time I was THIS angry. I feel the fire in the air. Europe waiting
       to be awakened, Islamic invaders and Westerners on both sides, one
       eagerly preparing for war, the other slowly waking up.
       Meanwhile we split hairs whether Roosh is a kebab rapist or not (hint : he isn’t) for fucking a drunk slut when there are invaders raping 4 year old boys regularly. Both sides look like absolute fags now.
       Look at ROK men. Most have guns, most are very anti-establishment. Just look at recent coments in articles talking about preparing for an armed
       rebellion. Dead serious about it.
       We are on the same page on 90%of shit. Both sides look like 5 year olds measuring each other’s dicks while the house is burning.
       This article was bad. I have no bad blood for ROK men or alt-righters. This was a stupid episode. Let it die out.
       I hope the same attitude from before re-established. I want good
       discussion on issues of mass migration, the future of Europe, problems
       with the establishment, JQ as well as the problems of feminism,
       marxism, cultural relativism and becoming better men.
       No useless rifts. Busting each other’s balls is fine. Creating useless feuds isn’t.

60. 1) Roosh has the all charm of a damp rug and is about as articulate.
    2) He did perfectly fine calling out the media. He should target them. Not his friends.
    3) The Alt-Right is never going to arrest Roosh for not having his knees together on the NY Subway.
    Do you think women want some metrosexual blogger or a man with plans for the future of their children? At best you’re engaged in a hot dog eating contest, at worst you’re just pretending to. Shut up if you don’t want reality to wake up and eat you.

    1. So again, in the altright right it’s all about women? Bring on exogenesis, women are fading into obsolescence.

       1. It’s half about them.

       2. women are the gateway to the next generation. Teaching them to be reproductively celibate party sluts until they are in danger of losing their ovaries to age is degenerate and has to come to an end or the elderly population will become unsustainable

          1. Imagine having a daughter — now, would you teach her to defend herself against PUAs?

          2. I don’t agree with PUA, but your definitions of rape are just ridiculous. I’ve fought degeneracy for years and I’ve seen the true face of western women. I simply don’t care anymore.

          3. Great well some of us who believe in manifest destiny are willing to defend it from faggot nihilists.

          4. The true face of women in any culture are a reflection of the true face of the men.

          5. Explain what were supposed to teach them ? Do you watch TV ? Do you go out ? Are you monitoring their interactions 24/7? A man going up to a woman and telling her not to be a desperate will only make her more inclined to do it. Only till they see the real life consequences of their actions will they quit. If men like you think because you caught them in their late 20s when they decided to slow down and think that you taught them good morals just wait till you have a daughter

          6. If degenerate imitatable media exists. It should be banned.

          7. So anything you find denegenerate would be banned , did a group of blue haired feminist say that exact thing ?

          8. Probably. I don’t disagree with the means, just the end.

          9. Haha I’m sure you end up being the crazy old cat man

          10. We have opposing views on what we consider degenerate.

          11. Yes we do and you’d sacrifice my views for yours . Just like feminist

          12. Not really. Whereas PUA is applied evolutionary psychology for the individual, the Alt-Right is applied evolutionary psychology for the collective. Sometimes the group’s dick is more important than yours.

          13. You have no clue what my views are . But to outlaw those you define degenerate is using the same tactic of the people you claim to be your enemy .

          14. Correct. Righteous authority.

          15. I’ll pass

          16. For now

          17. In 20 years I’ll be to old to care and in 40 I’ll probably be dead. I’ve had my share of women , I’m college educated , and I’m about to serve in the US military . After which I will come home to the house I’ve built on my 183 acres of land and spend the rest of my days sipping white lighting and shooting shit off my porch . I’ll be fine.

          18. And may God see to it that you serve under the Trumpenführer.

          19. “manifest destiny”? Somebody listens to True Capitalist Radio, too much.

       3. Autism spotted.

          1. That’s your refutation? That’s it?

          2. You’re ignorant of science and reality and talking pure fantasies. You might as well go back to watching Star Trek.

          3. Again, that’s not really a refutation. And I’m thinking long term here, not tomorrow or even the next year.

          4. Right. Star Trek. Three hundred years from now, you’ll be relevant.
             Go bury your comments in a time capsule for the people living then.

       4. “Bring on exogenesis?” No, it is inhuman and unethical costly and unnecessary to create a person in an artificial womb. We should ban implanting an embryo in anything other than a born female’s womb.

          1. Inhuman? Observing the behavior of females quickly kills anything resembling a conscience. I’m just pragmatic about having to do whatever is necessary.

          2. Inhuman? You mean it can happen without humans creating it and making it happen? Seems to me that the invention and application of technology is *uniquely* human.
             Why is it unethical?
             If women are opting out of children mostly, why is it unnecessary?

          3. I keep asking altrighters where all these beautiful, virginal brides are that they keep promising and so far nobody can give me an answer.

          4. I mean it would be inhuman to deprive a baby of shared human origins and human development and force them into the world as a product with no mother or father, just manufactured from DNA.
             Humans are a species, and species are define by sexual reproduction, being born from a human mother and father and with an equal right to be a mother or a father (but not both, no one has a right to choose which right they have.)

          5. I’m not entirely on top of all of the topic of artificial wombs, but the egg and sperm are still coming from human beings (corrections appreciated if I’m wrong). It’s a growing environment. Ergo, the interested party, likely the father, contributes his actual seed to an actual egg, then takes the kid home.
             Humans are sexual, yes, the problem is that women are no longer even pretending to want to be mothers. Our options are wearing thin at this point, if we want children. Additionally those that do have children use them basically as pawns in the legal system for resource extraction from the fathers.
             I’m a Christian and a father and I know where you’re coming from. The problem is that the situation is deteriorating so fast and options are being removed so drastically that one has to consider alternatives.

       5. Women are one of the central points of *this discussion*, you imbecile!
          Really, are you east-asian? I noticed you people have a very peculiar way of thinking.

    2. um no if the alt right does come to power in whatever form it manifests there will be no more “pick up artists”
       If you want to spread your craft. Spread it to your own male children.
       degeneracy laws are going to be a thing.

       1. Pro tip, they won’t. And Trump is simply a pony show.

          1. pro tip. Its already happening in eastern europe

          2. Eastern Europe does not and has never reflected the values or trends of Western Europe and the Anglosphere. I admire the East Europeans now for holding fast to traditions and masculinity, but that doesn’t mean that laws passed there will stand a chance of coming to fruition in places like Canada or the U.S.

          3. A group of 51 refugees were brutally assaulted outside a night club
             in Murmansk, Russia, after they groped and molested women at a night
             club Saturday.
             The refugees had previously been ordered to leave Norway for “bad behavior” and tried their luck in Russia.
             What they didn’t realize when they went out clubbing in Murmansk is
             that Russians have less tolerance when it comes to sexual assault on
             local women than other European countries.
             The refugees allegedly groped and harassed women in a similar manner
             as the assaults in Cologne on New Year’s Eve. A group of male Russian
             took them aside to “educate” them that “Cologne is 2,500 kilometers
             south of here.”

          4. That’s why you have men like Trump to change the culture, the way Obama changed the culture — only in the reverse.

          5. This is a flash in the pan and we’ll see if it holds. As I’ve seen over the years there are no guarantees and what is hot today is fast forgotten by tomorrow when it comes to things like celebrities.

          6. give me a single reason why not.
             to this day the costliest military conflict in united states history was the war against northern aggression. American against american. It can and will happen again.

          7. Nobody is hoping for trump to be the alt right jesus. We want him elected to destroy the press and establishment politics. Nothing more. Building a wall and deporting beaners is just a bonus

          8. Unless of course that celebrity happens to hold the most powerful office in the world.

          9. To consider Trump anti-establishment has to be one of the funniest jokes of this election cycle. heh
             Dude has been so connected to the hip to so many Democrats, monetarily and as friends, that to consider him non-establishment would be to consider John McCain anti-establishment.

          10. Right. Because deporting the democratic voting base is the democratic establishment thing to do.

          11. I was working under the assumption that you meant peacefully through the legislative process. War is an entirely different matter, and not one reflective of the experience in EE, which is source of my assumption. Romania’s execution of their leftist prick to the contrary of course.

          12. ya no. The answer to 1984 has always been 1936. you are not going to vote this shit away

          13. He will say anything you want to hear. He openly says this, gloats about it, revels in it. The used car salesman will tell you that the Pinto he’s selling you has the sex appeal of a Ferrari and the performance of a Porsche. You believe a man selling you something at your own peril.

61. It’s a bit hypocritical to be condemning the Alt-Right over Greg Johnson (a man who merely doesn’t confirm or deny he’s a homosexual and never talks about it) considering the Manosphere’s acceptance and promotion of Jack Donovan. Jack is an open homosexual who wrote in a RooshVForum (which doesn’t normally allow homos on it) post that he likes to ‘fuck men like they’re women.’

    1. Discretion is respectable.

    2. “he likes to ‘fuck men like they’re women” If Roosh banned him he could be accused of controlling his sexual choices.

    3. He also completely left out the fact that there was a huge controversy over Jack Donovan being allowed to speak at NPI (hint: most of us opposed it), so saying that we ”love” open homosexuals is quite disingenuous.

62. One thing for sure about race and genes, is that it doesn’t affect procreation rights. Every man has the same rights as all other men to procreate with a woman of any race. But sex affects procreation rights. People that are male don’t have a right to procreate with other males or gestate a fetus in their body. Males only have a right to procreate with women.

    1. no. The collective race has the authority to deny rights to any outside race. Why would any smart person want their grandchildren to be born with less potential? why should any stable family want to fuck their own shit up?

       1. Why not just instigate genetic engineering? We have the potential to do it. We don’t need to involve women in the reproductive process for much longer. Given that their choices are obviously proven to be dysgenic much like women in politics.
          And no, white girls aren’t magic. Especially without make up.

          1. Human liberty and rights are based on everyone being created equal, as offspring of a man and a woman, with the equal right to have our own offspring. It’s the basis of equality and liberty and dignity, and getting rid of that basis gets rid of liberty and rights for everyone. Plus it’d be expensive and unnecessary. Why not just have children with a woman?

          2. I’m not an egalitarian. I don’t care about equality or rights. I care somewhat about liberty as obviously certain castes of people(masters) deserve it more than others(slaves).

          3. As for having children with a woman. . . well I don’t have a lot of money or status so that’s out of the question.

          4. But you think genetic engineering and exogenesis will be cheaper?

       2. Why would you want your grandchildren to be unequal citizens, with no right to have children of their own with their spouse?

          1. first you have to explain why equality matters when its used to destroy stable societies with meaningless jewish philosophy.
             You want women to be able to vote , but not consent. Make up your mind here.

          2. Women should always be able to refuse sex, even with husband, and their fully informed consent is always required.

63. Thanks Roosh. I was wondering if anyone else noticed this subversion. I haven’t thought about the limitations on male sexual choices so much, but the anti-Semitism and obsession with genetic “purity” is increasingly blatant. Meanwhile they gush about the sodomites among them or, at best, practice the “not that there’s anything wrong with that” cowardice. Basically anyone not obsessed with white tribalism above everything else is now called a cuckservative. There is almost nothing “right wing” about the alt-right now that the hijacking is complete.

64. So let me get this straight, this site is awash with White men who worship this Iranian and take his advice on pulling your women while you all go full SJW at discussion of race and Jews.
    What kind of faggotry is this? some sort of fucking cult?

    1. I think It is a community of people with a range of beliefs and a healthy respect for one another and the ability to discuss things without either breaking down into animosity or chanting in unison. Actually, it is often quite civilized

       1. ”Actually, it is often quite civilized”
          Not tonight then…

          1. That is a fair enough assessment, but you came in on an article obviously meant to elicit this response. I withhold judgment. That said, I don’t feel this article or the comments/discussion stemming from it is indicative of the vast majority of which is on this site
             Roosh is obviously involved in a wider manosphere discussion that I am not part of and don’t care about so I don’t want to presume to take sides, but generally I find a congenial and intelligent atmosphere on this site sprinkled with occasional silliness to breakup the monotony —- oh and kratom.

       2. “Actually, it is often quite civilized”
          Shut up you whiny bitch!
          Now that the obligatory snide remark is out of the way…Actually you’re completely right. It’s only inflammatory articles like this where everything breaks down.

          1. to paraphrase Clemenza: That’s all right. These things gotta happen every five posts or so, ten posts . Helps to get rid of the bad blood. Been ten posts since the last one. You know, you gotta stop them at the beginning. Like they should have stopped Hitler at Munich, they should never let him get away with that, they was just asking for trouble.

          2. oh yeah, and fuck you you effete cunt 🙂

          3. Triggered!

          4. Yeah, let them get it all out of their systems.

          5. I am changing my name to The Trigger Nigger

          6. Double triggered!

          7. Can I join in you fucking jizz buckets?

          8. Leave the gun, take the canoli.

          9. By “inflammatory”, you mean finding yourself outside of WN circle-jerks?

          10. I mean inflammatory where someone goes after a group on the same team, or at least loosely affiliated with them. It’s really not that hard of a concept to grasp.
              If this was just some snide remark at me, I challenge you to find one comment of mine where I exhibited a WN stance. Go on…I’ll wait.

          11. Perhaps I misunderstood. I thought you were calling Roosh’s article inflammatory when in my book, there is nothing wrong with calling a movement to account. Of course not all members of the group are the same; ROK has articles talking about things women do, yet we know they are not all the same.

          12. Ah yes, that would seem to be the misunderstanding. I use inflammatory not from a personal viewpoint, but rather as a general description. Roosh/ROK writes something against feminists, the feminists lose their shit. He writes something against the alt-right, the alt-right loses their shit. I’m fairly neutral in the matter but I do find it amusing how many people came out of the woodwork to bash this article almost immediately.

       3. or chanting in unison.
          or chanting in unison…
          or chanting in unison…
          or chanting in unison…
          I think It is a community of people with a range of beliefs and a
          healthy respect for one another and the ability to discuss things
          without either breaking down into animosity or chanting in unison.
          Actually, it is often quite civilized
          I think I see a *whole* mess of people here who are infrequent contributors at best, and many that I’ve never seen before at all.

          1. It’s amazing how quick they all come out of the woodworks when a post like this comes out.

          2. True, even if I read this regularly as satire, I don’t usually bother commenting since Roosh hates to be contradicted in the comments. Two posts and I was banned for voicing an opinion that was fair and wasn’t inflammatory. Talk about censorship.

    2. Pretty sure we’re Alpha Alt-Right MRA Pro-rape MGTOW Neomasculine FuckBoy Cis-Scum Shitlords who live in Roosh’s Mom’s basement.
       We are less necessary than bicycles or even refugee registration in Germany.
       Every morning we get up and manspread in our patriarchal man-cave safe-spaces where we take our Red-Pills and shed male tears.
       We go to our male-dominated workplace where we spend the afternoon raping everybody and making 30 cents more than women on the hour.
       Later we come home and stroke our white-male privilege, and proceed to pump-and-dump imported foreign brides who shut-the-fuck-up because they know they can’t Stump the Trump.
       Finally, when we go to sleep, we dream about a world where the white-man can finally play video-games in peace and fall in love with a barefoot HB10 NAWALT Robot Unicorn.

       1. Sir, you are the wind under my wings.
          You win the thread. Here’s your one internetz prize.

          1. No disrespect, but it seems people around here are a tad bit sensitive when called out. When it comes to talking the talk, we have top-tier world champs at RoK. Regrettably, some pesky uncomfortable FACTS can’t be so conveniently ignored: all it took was a couple of online “threats” from a gang of depraved black lipstick-clad “emos” for the entire RoK community to have a giant collective fucking hissy fit, and very literally cut-and-run, like third-rate cowards.
             Were you packing your .45 as you were running to hide!?!

          2. Haha, look at the collective butthurt from cheetos-eating keyboard jockey AltRights on this comment thread. Talk about being “sensitive”.

          3. I can say you’ve influenced me over the years to take my writing more seriously GoJ and I should thank you for that.
             Also, this thread is nuts…

          4. Unlike your highly organized enterprise of employees serving as self-slaughtering mercenaries; the trap was seen from a mile away.

          5. Listen Ewan,
             I haven’t been here longer than some but I have been here longer than most in this article’s comment section. And in the time that I have been here I cannot recall you or your name. It seems to me you have been lurking for intelligence for quite some time and only now decide to pop up through the woodwork like a whack-a-mole.
             Let me make some things clear to you. Nobody fucks with GOJ. You have some balls trying to attack him you piece of shit. If only you were so lucky enough to be able to reload his .45 with your teeth you would know to choose your battles more wisely.
             Now run along, twerp.

          6. Somebody had to do it.

       2. You wish. You’re actually a sexually frustrated code monkey who gets talked down to by minorities and then runs to your computer to whine about SJWs. Tell us your frustrations when you see a suave black guy talks to a girl you had your eyes on but ignores you for the awkward low-status guy you are.

       3. That’s the spirit!

    3. Often people ask a mixed question like ”how can we contradict ourselves, mixing things like pua and traditional fidelity”. My own road to learning the nature of women is like many here. I gamed ho’s and then married one. I learned well. We’re a mixed bag on here. We’re all sinners, but highly literate sinners searching for nuggets of truth and for the tools and sticks needed to dig men out of the feminist shithoes. The west is littered like a bad Arkansas road with mammouth feminist potholes everywhere. But if ye not be a sinner than ye may cast doubt.

       1. You are setting up the straw man of feminism because in my opinion most of you are the very thing you claim to be against, weak men, after a certain realisation you latched onto the feminism issue and use it as way to treat women like meat when in fact they are just as lost in post modernity as you.

          1. White women are not lost in “post modernity” when they sleep with blacks, hispanics, whatever – except for you. They are more masculine than you. You jack off at home and can’t accept how frustrated that makes you. Rather than improve, you vent online.

          2. Hey, hasbarat – do us all a favour and fuck off.

          3. I’ve been preaching on race forever and feminism since I tried to domesticate a wild woman. Race is in you from birth but no bookworming will teach you the ropes and pitfalls of the she beast. We were put on this Earth to breed. Given. Optimum human potential lies somewhere between inbreeding and complete mongrelizing. Inbreeds exhibit defects while mongrelizing produces the least common denominator trait package. Outside 2nd cousin relationship but within 5th or 6th cousin relationship for siring we see the level of tribal hegemony of the ancient Greek city states. An Athenian marrying a Spartain was not the norm but the exception. Two tribes hegicalimonically tied to the greater nation state but with diplomatic apartheid. Pedigree tribes in the hundreds and thousands remained distinct within the white race for the majority of the iron age. The blanket term ‘white’ or ‘black’ or ‘asian’ pretty much cuts the exceptional traits with purebloods down to one step above mongrel. Finding the driving traits that bring notariety to a race boils down to a few clans or tribes within the race. Lumping tribes together as races by skin pigment and eye color alone or genetic testing which only reveals the presence or abscence of markers from other races obscures the true core lines or the actual wellspring of the race itself.
             For example, the Basque line which produced such greats as Da Vinci and Gallileo is a small area in northeastern Spain. The true Basque are like a race apart from the average Spaniard or Frank. Also the Attican line produced Plato, Socrates, Pythagoras and others. Attica was a font or wellspring and they too were like a race apart and above the average Greek. So the 2-7 rule brings backbone back to any race that practices it. Reproduce within the 2nd and 7th cousin relationship and like panning for gold nuggets as you sift through an entire mountain, it is possible to yank back the clock and retrieve the purity and exceptional traits that the ancients posessed. Still keep diplomacy with affiliated tribes within your greater race. But remember ”2-7”, that’s TWO- SEVEN tribesmen. Hail the tribe!!
             As for the ‘strawman’, I’ve known a few white power folks and a few white power chicks. The chicks, majority were ho bags and needed the HAMMER OF PATRIARCHY. And they actually produced dismally few offspring. The girls, some in WN circles would screw one boot boy and then turn around and screw his buddy causing infidelity amongst the males.
             SPANK YOUR WILD BITCHES white man. Many WN males, too many in fact, also white knight for their women instead of realizing the nature of female deception. It is said that women control the gates of their pussy flaps. They control access and make the booty call only to dick chopped circumcised males. LET THY SCHLONG HANG LONG tribesmen. NO CHOP must be the rule. Chopped down at birth, a ‘whacked’ man grows up to be a ‘whipped’ man, never the master of his own house, but rather the other way around. White men BEAT YOUR WHITE BITCHES ANGRILY with your white dicks. You got that? ASS UP, shut your mouths AND BREED motherfuckers.
             Hail!!

    4. Well said. I’ve been reading the various articles and comments on ROK for the past few weeks (since early Jan ’16), and have gotten familiar with the “philosophy” and “credo” of the so-called alleged “men”, around here, and let me emphatically say this:
       I have never come across a more pussy, faggot, all-chatter, chest-thumping bunch of homos in my life. In talk, they reign supreme! One guy even replied to one of my comments about how he was some kind of a Delta commando who could “triple tap” me with his .45ACP. And yet …
       And yet, these motherfuckers can’t!!! even meet for coffee because some 19yr old degenerate faggot with green hair, black lipstick and matching nail polish, in super-tight skinny jeans has threatened them! Just a couple of weeks ago, they all ran with their fucking tails between their legs after getting “threatened” by a few other faggots online about a meet-and-greet. And these folk talk and preach … wait for it … masculinity! Un-fucking-believable. Rule number one of what it means to be a man: Deeds. Not words. For these folk, it’s “all words and gossip. Deeds? what the fuck is that?” … the RoK readership motto!

       1. I run a little blog myself and recently wrote an article on Roosh and these Returning Kings who all seem strangely serf like when it comes to discussing subjects with more fearsome enemies than daft feminist lasses
          http://nwioqeqkdf.blogspot.co.uk/2016/02/no-thanks-roosh-we-already-have-enough.html

          1. Thanks, mate! Great blog! Just a cursory reading indicates a man after my own taste. I will definitely read it in depth.

       2. lol. What do you know about our lives and experiences d’bag?

       3. “I have never come across a more pussy, faggot, all-chatter, chest-thumping bunch of homos in my life. ” — And your asshole wept with joy once you thought you had found a pack that would run a train on you.

       4. When one of you “brave” fight-for-my-race white knight AltRighters actually confronts a black guy to his face, instead of whine about Roosh, I might believe you’re not actually projecting about being a pussy faggot.

          1. Blacks are all but irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. The real problem is jews – like you.

       5. Why are you so mad a bunch of men didn’t end up meeting “for coffee”?

          1. I’m not mad; not at all. Just pointing out the glaring contradiction of people celebrating masculinity, yet cutting and running at the first hint of trouble. It’s disappointing, that’s all.

    5. Race is irrelevant if you share my beliefs ..Roosh is as American as they come. He ( Roosh) is fully assimilated and is more American ( traditional , loves America and the West) than than most college kids I meet… He’s a uber Patriot the guy..

       1. Your beliefs are MUH DICK. Which is fine, but your peener isn’t going to fix the problems at large.

          1. Truly, what does it matter what the guy looks like?? What’s with this “white’s only ” policy??

          2. MUH DICK isn’t even a coherent philosophy any more than a feminist’s MUH PUSSY is.

          3. There is no whites only policy. The philosophies of the Alt-Right are open for all races to take, modify, and apply to themselves and their race. Trying to weasel into our gene pool will cause problems, though.

          4. Didn’t the original Aryans come from what is now modern Iran??

          5. No. But they did spread out in that direction.

       2. Human Biodiversity mate

          1. I agree with HBD . Cycles and cycles though… At one point the Chinese were the most advanced society on the planet. The Persian empire was amazing and glorious. The Incas /Aztecs and Mayans were the top of the human heap at one point. I’m for limiting immigration etc . I’m a nationalist. Causes a big shitstorm when you talk about race, genes etc. Most people flip the fuck out

    6. “on pulling your women”- ghee, I would love you to say that in a public forum, not behind your stupid avatar. Let me tell you something, “your girls” are opening their legs, its not Roosh’s fault. Not everyone is a white nationalist, sorry dude, the world is composed of many people. REALITY. That does not mean I support multiculturalism though.

       1. “the world is composed of many people” this is obvious and correct……Countries like Japan , S.Korea and Singapore have their shit-wired-tight and in most ways are better than the USA…I don’t support multiCULTuralism either just that whites don’t have a monopoly on national performance and rankings etc..

       2. Wiry, low-status AltRights can’t get any kind of women, so they claim they have ‘high standards’ of a white princess who shares their “race realist” (read: ‘it’s not fair I’m white’) views. They die when they see that same woman sleep with a “kebab”, “thug”, etc. You got to laugh at their pain.

          1. Sorry you are not white bro.

          2. LOL. The college-educated kind. A different breed than the minimum-wage earning hs-dropout.

          3. Don’t you get it? we can tell from your writing you are not White, and it doesn’t even matter, because if you are, it’s even worse, and we respect you even less. We’re Disgusted even trying to imagine you being White. That’d be really fucked up…..so we give you some credit and assume you must be a brown with some Pride, instead of a White guy with none.

          4. Haha, I’ve been called a Beaner, a Jew, an Asiatic just on this thread alone. This is the problem with aryan alcoholics who pass on fetal alcohol syndrome to their poor kids.

          5. Educated people do not argue with their the psychological complexes as the leading edge.

          6. Why do you keep repeating yourself? Try branching out into some other thoughts instead of the same old same old. See a psychiatrist if you can’t get over your obsessive compulsions. Very tiresome!

          7. How about you toothless rednecks stop claiming you’re going to overpower the government with force when you can’t even stop jacking off to incest porn long enough to even put together a successful activist group, let alone a revolution.

    7. False choice: SJW or AltRight stupidity? I don’t think so.

    8. But you go full SJW at the mention of restricting women. You’re both wrong.

65. Beautifully written.

66. http://i.imgur.com/F4uUJZn.jpg

    1. Actually, any SJW/leftist is to blame, regardless of race, gender, or religion. People who throw “Jews” or “Zionists” out there, or that NWO shit are fucking retarded.

       1. Holy shit, NRO should hire you to write for them. They are in denial about the same exact things.

          1. Why not? All your Alt-right pals seem to be on board with the Daily Stormer BS.

       2. Clueless cretin calls an enlightened one “retarded”.
          You couldn’t make this shit up !!
          (Or are you JIDF?).

       3. Who has been brainwashing women for the past 50 years to give them this undesirable behavior the manosphere complains about all the time? Did women just suddenly become massive sluts by themselves after centuries of traditionalism or was there an external influence?

       4. TTIP, TPP, EU, U.N. Agenda 2030.

       5. Take a look for yourself Neo.
          We didnt say it would be easy, just the truth
          https://thezog.wordpress.com/

          1. Thanks for proving my earlier point about the alt right being a bunch of Jew-hating scumbags.

          2. You know what I think man ?
             It doesn’t really matters what Roosh does.
             As long as there is someone to redpill, I will be there to give it to them.

          3. Excellent.
             The truth is I cant believe that he will suddenly start posting anti white articles. He never has before and articles like that cant stand up to reason anyway.
             Christ, who cares, let everyone just go back to normal and get on with their tuesday.

          4. Mazel tov

          5. The best thing you people can do is come clean. Stop lying to yourselves. Everyone already knows. Ask for forgiveness, put the blame on your leaders and ask for mercy. Average jews who have had no part in this have been used by your leaders as human shields. Fight to make that distinction clear. Seriously.

67. It looks like the start of something promising may be dying out as quickly as it rose. It’s a shame the movement has degenerated to such a degree and I can agree with the vast majority of sentiment you express here. There are exceptions:
    “If the bulk of alt right practitioners have their way, white men will
    not be allowed to date non-white women and non-white men will not be
    allowed to date white women or even flirt with them.”
    “If you’re a non-white male, you’re not allowed to sleep with a white
    girl, because you’re a nigger/kebab/gook, and you must be deported from
    the country you happen to be a citizen of or outright killed.
    The italicized portion of your quotes above is not something that belongs to the Alt Right. Leviticus 18:21’s prohibition against race mixing belongs to Yahweh, the God of the Bible, as does the judgment for it in Leviticus 20. It’s honorable, good, just, and righteous. It’s a pillar of nationalism and self preservation. Feel free to hate that truth, hate Yahweh, and hate anyone who states it. Attempting to defame this moral principle by association with degenerate, ungodly fools in the Alt Right does not change the truth of this.
    Rail against it all day long but give credit where credit is due: It’s Yahwehs’ law. He owns it, and in human terms, He predates the Alt Right by many thousands of years. Scripture upon scripture in the Bible can be multiplied to demonstrate that Yahweh does not sanction race mixing in any way. It is not Christian, traditionalist, or nationalist to promote race mixing.
    “If you’re a white male, you’re forbidden to sleep with a non-white girl,because that is “race mixing” and goes against their race platform, even though the white race was certainly produced as a result of pre-historic race mixing.”
    I appreciate most of what you do and say. You’re dead wrong on this and demonstrate a glaring gap that undermines everything you say, and claim you wish to accomplish, by saying things like this.
    The above quote is an absolute favorite for people who want to justify race mixing because of their own selfish desire to participate in it. Some form of “We’re all mixed including white people”, “Every white person has a non-white, Indian ancestor somewhere”, etc. It’s completely false, lame, and disgraceful.
    “Thus says Yahweh, Who gives the sun for light by day and the fixed order of the moon and the stars for light by night, who stirs up the sea so that its waves roar; Yahweh of hosts is His name: If this fixed order departs from before Me,” declares Yahweh, Then the offspring of Israel also will cease from being a nation [literally a people] before Me forever.” Jeremiah 31:35-36
    The sun still rules by day and the moon and stars by night. If white people are all mixed, God is a liar when He made this promise. Not so. Believe whatever you want, but there are non-mixed “nations” (genetic not geographic) of people from every race. Any obscure “facts” or claims of “ancient race mixing making white people mixed” in attempts to undermine the morality of racial purity and make someone’s choice of foreign women fair game for their selfish lust is pure nonsense. I think somewhere deep inside everyone who tries to peddle that nonsense knows it.
    Studies into Noah’s flood, the Tower of Babel, etc. proves time and time again if God didn’t want us to be different races He would have made us all the same race from the beginning. All the birds of the woods eat from the same field, but they fly home to their own nests. Learn some wisdom from nature if you cannot glean it from anywhere else.
    Maybe the Alt Right is imploding with ignorance. If so, good riddance. Even if they are wrong on every other issue, they are dead on as far as the issue of race mixing. Even if they are right for the wrong reasons.

68. Alt right = feminism with mustache?

    1. Pretty much. Look at all the comments below. Such vitriol.

       1. You can’t even right now can you?

          1. I have no problem with most of the alt right, but when it comes to the whole “race-mixing” and “White pride” and “Jews” thing, that’s a little bothersome.

          2. Pattern recognition. Everyone knows about the Jews but pretend it isn’t happening or that they aren’t Jews. It’s silly self-censorship.

          3. It’s a White Nationalist movement, if you do not understand the dynamic between white racial identity and Jewish activism then you are utterly ignorant of the world you live in.
             But I guess slipping a tired Polish girl another vodka and getting a sly blow job has you maxed out.

          4. Yes, I’m spent. Seriously, promoting the whole “white racial identity” led to much of Europe being a fascistic shithole and the deaths of millions of innocents. I love the western way of life, and none of it has anything to do with race.

          5. The White Race created it you thick cunt. Do think all those inventions and ideals just popped out of the ground?

          6. The White Race also invented liberalism. Stop blaming the Jews for all your problems. Yes, they are a problem but wouldn’t be if you actually looked at yourselves.

          7. Oh so you aren’t white then….

          8. Jesus H. Christ. . . nevermind. . .

          9. What are you? an Indian or Negro or Jew or what?

          10. I actually already answered this question in this very comment section actually. You’re a little slow aren’t you?

          11. No I’m just not sifting through hundreds of comments.

          12. No, the jews invented liberalism, along with communism, socialism, feminism, etc. etc.

          13. No, they wouldnt be a problem – if we expelled them all. Starting with you.

          14. Cuck, hasbarat? I just can’t tell.

          15. Who is we and where am I?

          16. You – ‘The Other’. We being white people.
              And by expel I mean physically from whichever white nation you’re squatting in and more fundamentally expelling you from our civilisation.

          17. So, some of the crucial existential issues don’t matter. Interesting.

          18. You can expel me to Continental Europe if you’d like, I’m sick of the Anglosphere faggotry and white knighting. It’s where my family is from.

    2. Alt right = masculinity without the manosphere ‘fuck and chuck’ faggotry

       1. Where are all these beautiful, virginal white women? I don’t attend church so where?

       2. Fair enough. What if I’m not white? Can I be part of the Alt Right movement? As it seems it’s kind of hostile to non-white men.

          1. There’s no reason why Alt-Right ideology cannot be used for Black Nationalism, or Japanese nationalism, etc. The Japanese already are big into the Alt-Right
             http://www.debito.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/TokyoEdogawaSwastika032314.jpg

       3. Virginal, pure wife material just grows on trees here in the West doesn’t it?

          1. If it doesn’t now, we’ll need to make it so, won’t we?

          2. Isn’t one of goals of PUA behavior to make women recognize that?

          3. Okay, good luck with that.

          4. PUA is solipsistic. The Alt-Right emphasizes group cohesion. PUA is like a libertarian.

69. White men don’t cuck for muslim men.
    The women you chase and the betas who worship you worth less in my eyes than a principled feminist cat lady.

    1. Don’t think this dude’s a Muslim.

       1. He carries the tribal preference and views himself as an outsider.
          Is a secular Jew white?

          1. Jews come in all colors; look at the Israeli demographics. Well over half are indistinguishable from Arabs (Mizrahi), yet many European Ashkenazi are fair skinned and have blond/red hair and blue eyes. Then you have Beta Israel black Jews of Ethiopia, Indian Jews, Chinese Jews…

          2. Shilling for Kikes.
             Quelle surprise!

          3. But when push comes to shove, tribal preferences will overrule their nationality in the diaspora.
             They consider themselves Jewish first. An outsider.

          4. There’s the alt-right Nazi. Saying that shit, your side are indistinguishable from SJW/feminists (who side with people–namely radical Muslims–who believe that).

          5. Uh…no. Jews are incredibly well-assimilated.

          6. Tell that to Mel Gibson.
             There are 1.5 million people in the US with Hungarian descent. No gettoes, no lobby, no identity: they became Americans.
             That’s assimilation.

          7. Check these Jews out. They ‘converted’ to Chrisianity 500 years ago, but still identify as Jewish.
             http://www.haaretz.com/jewish/features/.premium-1.704805
             How’s that for assimilation?

          8. Cry more, Kike.

          9. There’s tons of lobbies; Armenian, Chinese, Arab…

          10. That’s hilarious.

          11. So are you, MGTOW faggot.

          12. Of course. None of them pass as white, when it’s comfortable.
              I didn’t say “well-assimilated”, you did.
              Jews are extremely overrepresented in universities: they just count as whites, so no problem with that, right?
              But when it’s advantageous, they can still have their own identity politics, and of course, they are nepotistic towards outsiders.
              Hungarian Americans don’t do that: they are Americans, with a fun story of their grandparents coming to the country and working some shit job.
              That’s incredibly well-assimilated.
              Jews keep to their identity and use it immediately when it’s needed: it’s really powerful.
              What would a Hungarian American gain by pulling out the Hungarian card?
              Of course Jews are oppressed: they are 2% of the US pop, but constitute 43% of the upper 1%. They also own banking, media, and you can guess that they are overrepresented everywhere.
              The Hungarian American would still hire you from the street. And if he’s an asshole and you call him out on it, you won’t be an evil anti-semite.
              That’s incredibly well-assimilated.
              Back to identity politics: Roosh is non-white. He has no loyalty in a Western sense. He comes from a culture where if you run out of 2nd cousins to hire, you start hiring 3rd cousins.

          13. Don’t you think “nepotistic” right, and Jews certainly came to this country and worked shit jobs; hell, my grandfather worked in a fish market for 40 years.

          14. Again, you’re a real card. Go wank off to your Goebbels shit.

          15. So you’re Jewish.
              So you know what I’m talking about. You’re defending your identity to the last bullet.
              There’s nothing wrong with that, but you are not well-assimilated.
              You are integrated in to the American society, but you’re Jewish first. White Americans are Americans first, with a few obscure exceptions on the East Coast. They’re not British or Hungarian.
              It’s not your American identity that keeps you posting here, it’s your Jewish identity. Others noticed this also, it’s quite apparent.
              Check your privilege!

          16. That is one of their main tricks. There are lots of them in Mexico, too. And Brazil. They blend in with their prey, they do not “assimilate”.

          17. Same with that other jewish guy up there who bashes White people over and over.

    2. “Muh Aryan princess”.

       1. Prep the bull

          1. For your mom.

          2. Fine, just prep it.

       2. You gotta stop confusing the Renegade crowd with the alt right, my man. Most of us believe women shouldn’t have the right to vote and support traditional gender roles.

          1. Agreed. However, it’s true that most of you supported Greg Johnson’s ridiculous article about how RooshV was a “rapist”. Therefore buying into the consent narrative frame that was set by feminists as a trap to destroy masculinity.
             Also inflating women’s already Hindenburg sized egos is a bad idea. Most Beta guys can’t even get dates because the value of pussy is so artificially inflated. Stop buying feminist narratives.

          2. Yeah, while I am on the side of the alt right here, I don’t think it was without mistakes in this controversy. Teaming up with SJWs to attack Roosh for being a ”rapist” was one of the low moments, which I personally opposed.

70. You aren’t really bringing up anything new. The alt right is mainly a White nationalist movement. Why exactly would you think that we would find having sex with foreign races acceptable, when racial homogeneity is the whole basis of the movement? And yes, opposing race mixing is a way of controlling male sexuality (also female sexuality, but for some reason you forgot to mention that). Pretty much everyone except libertarians want to control the behavior of humans one way or another, this isn’t anything shocking.

    1. Sex does not equal reproduction. Roosh may have “race-mixed” sexually, but he has not reproduced, so I can’t understand the outrage of banging a few foreign broads.

71. What do you expected??? alt right bases itself in WASP tradition as far as i see.

    1. WASP? Not familiar with that term.

       1. Seriously?
          White Anglo Saxon Protestant.
          A very old term actually.

          1. Guess I’m just ignorant. Bad me, bad!

          2. Heh, I was just honestly surprised, I figured the term was nearly universal in the Anglosphere for at least the last 100 years.

          3. I’ve never been good with acronyms.

       2. White anglo-saxon protestant=WASP

72. All I’m seeing is a bunch of kvetching related to Richard Spencer getting blowback for supporting you rather than ignoring your situation. Time has repeatedly shown that these two movements cannot get along so it’s best that they remain separate. Throwing shade at each other accomplishes nothing other than distracting each group from their own differing goals. Cooperation or fusionism is almost impossible because one group stands for the survival and preservation of European peoples and the other is primarily concerned with opposing feminism and pursuing nihilistic hedonism or “enjoying the decline.” Our side tends to see feminism as merely one symptom of deep political, structural, and spiritual problems that have metastasized within our people and our homelands.
    There are also the usual strawmen and other irrelevant points:
    1. “You guys are beeta males!”
    At this point that’s the equivalent of some of our spergy members calling people “Jew shills.” Mostly meaningless signaling and a way to call someone “a very bad person who I don’t like.”
    2. “You guys love homos!”
    That’s completely ignoring the huge dust-up over Jack Donovan attending NPI, an open homosexual whom the manosphere, including RVF, supports, promotes and whom RVF allowed to join their forum. He specifically posted on the forum that he likes to ‘fuck men like they’re women.’
    Contrast that with Greg Johnson, a man who merely doesn’t confirm or deny he’s a homosexual and never talks about it or his sexual exploits.
    Throwing shade on that issue is entirely hypocritical.
    Some things to consider:
    1. Your definition of race is the standard leftist one.
    Race is more than skin color and you’re a smart guy, so I know you know this. It’s very convenient and also flat out wrong for you to characterize it in that way. Each racial group and ethnic groups within them have their own specific interests, predilections, preferences, capabilities, etc. I can understand why people would have different opinions over how much race actually matters but to trot out that old canard is pretty dishonest.
    2. Civic nationalism is not a long-term or permanent solution to the demographic problems the West faces.
    A nation is its people. If we allow mass immigration of non-Europeans into European countries and in America to continue it’ll change the face of both places forever and they’ll begin to reflect the values of the new majority populations. Do you think a Europe under Muslim control will allow you to enjoy the luxuries or the excesses that you currently do? Do you think a weakened America, with a majority Mestizo population, will be as prosperous and open to you as majority white America or Europe currently is? You might have had some fun experiences visiting third world countries in the past and chasing tail there, but would you like to live in one where no one speaks your language, holds your values, or looks like you? I’m sure you’re aware of how alienating that can be. Do you think they’d care about your freedom of speech or other values that America’s founders cared about?
    Like I said before, you’re a smart guy and I’ve enjoyed a lot of the work you’ve put out in the past. A lot of it does a good job in teaching awkward guys how to get better with women. If you see these comments, I hope you consider the points I’ve made.
    Respectfully,
    John H. Eden
    P.S. I also enjoyed writing a couple articles for you on your video game site a while back. You and the other authors there were great guys to work with and it’s a shame what happened to GamerGate. You were the first to step up and give the GG crowd a big space to voice their opinions and enjoy their hobby without leftist spin or bullshit. I’m proud to have contributed to Reaxxion.

    1. Well said.

    2. Couldn’t have said it better myself. Roosh has done a lot of good, but…this is a bridge too far.
       Race=skin color…SMH

    3. All I will be going for is this: “You guys are beeta males!”
       It should be enough to dismiss your entire thing.
       Because you cannot (for whatever reason) allow people from different races to have sex you have forced your worldview to ignore what western women have become.
       As such you are pedestalizing western women like only a certain kind of person can.
       The singular human cancer responsible that has brought this civilization to its decline.
       The beta male.
       You let all of this happen because you are utterly oblivious to human nature, the relationship of the sexes, patriarchy and matriarchy and civilizations as a whole.
       Look at all the great and unconquerable civilizations of old. Do you know what brought about their decline? No, it was not the Jews or any other outward factor, that’s just your beta male rationalizing away of responsibilities talking.
       It was women and giving them too much power.
       How can you be this oblivious? Are you completely unaware of their nature?
       Do you even know about the voting gap of the sexes?
       They’re the sole reason for the cuckservative.
       Your western women are mental

       Study Shows Young Women Are Twice As Likely As Young Men To Be Mentally Ill

       
       An insight on civilization

       How A German Historian Predicted The Decline Of Western Civilization 100 Years Ago

       
       And it’s relationship to the sexes

       4 Surprising Ways That Chimpanzees And Bonobos Show The Decline Of Our Society

       
       You are a beta for going this far with your ignorance. You are a beta for pedestalizing your western women and thus bringing the decline of this civilization.
       Now tell me, are you going to marry those special snowflakes?
       If you are, or you already did, there is a good chance of you getting divorced.
       Certainly, there is nothing wrong with family today, now is there?
       It’s also not like the family mirrors the civilization it’s part of, right?
       Also, tell me, what is the singular best personality trait for a woman to have?
       Without it family cannot function.

       1. I don’t pedestalize women. Your entire premise is invalid.

          1. Hah, sure that’s what you say. But not calling out their behavior and ignoring that they are the downfall of any civilization ever is the same.
             You have chosen to be ignorant simply because you pedestalize them.

          2. I used to post here all the time and on RVF. Probably before you even found this site. I’m well aware of everything you’re talking about. You claim I’m ignoring this. I’m not, but it’s funny because that’s exactly what you’re doing with regards to race.

          3. “Each racial group and ethnic groups within them have their own specific interests, predilections, preferences, capabilities, etc.”
             Bullshit. Races only come attached with tendencies nothing more. You’re stance is plain irrational.
             The only rational reason to exclude someone from immigrating and procreating in western countries is according to their abilities and ideology. Anything else is childish oversimplification.
             Don’t jump to any conclusions regarding my point on women here.
             Also, tell me, with your entire initial rant how could you possibly miss the point of the article?
             http://www.returnofkings.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/filthy-arab.jpg
             How is this not pedestalization? This article is about how you guys pedestalize women and in extension try to control male sexual behavior.
             “I’m well aware of everything you’re talking about.”
             I don’t believe that. How could you and the ideology you stand for possibly make a fuss about Jews or any other race, when it is solely the women who give these tending to be leeches all their power?
             You are pathetic for standing in for them.

          4. You have no idea what you’re talking about and your stance that people shouldn’t be banned from immigrating to the country because they’re of a different race is retarded, as is your attempt to get around the obvious. If race doesn’t matter and isn’t anything but skin color, Australian Aboriginals all have the same basic capacity and ability that everyone else apparently does (in your bizarro reality). We know that this isn’t true by looking at their cultures, their average IQs, etc. We evolved differently in different environments in different places over thousands of years.
             I’m guessing you’re either non-white or completely cucked.
             And continue to whine about women. You’re the one treating them like ubermensch boogeymen when in reality the feminism problem could be solved tomorrow if little bitches like you nutted up and stopped putting up with their shit. Same is true of the faggoty Jews. They only have as much power as society allows them. Weaklings like you who just kvetch are the problem.

          5. I am not even going to read that. Because you didn’t read mine either.
             “Bullshit. Races only come attached with tendencies nothing more.”
             You’re living in a dream world. It even affects your ability to read. But, do you know what?
             You are not surprising me. I would have never expected anything else from ilk like you.

          6. Well, aren’t you taking your sweet time.
             I don’t accept this all too common cowardly “tactic” of just running away mid conversation. It is something I would never do to my opponent out of basic self-respect alone. You seem to lack that respect.
             That is kind of telling when it comes to your general view on women. You just plain pedestalize them.
             “You’re the one treating them like ubermensch boogeymen when in reality the feminism problem could be solved tomorrow if little bitches like you nutted up and stopped putting up with their shit.”
             That is just an unbased accusation. Tell me, what group factually subverted every civilization so far?
             That you and the ideology you stand for are so focused on race had made you in turn pedestalize women. How could you possibly make race an issue whilst not ignoring its proponents women?
             Even you, desperately trying to prove me how you don’t pedestalize women, downplay their role.
             Are you even aware of the voting gap of the sexes? More women than men vote and they vote the more liberal.
             With pedestals like you and your group this will not go anywhere.

          7. “Bullshit” Stopped reading right there nigger.

          8. So what?

          9. It is a fact that women were much more likely to vote Conservative than men right up until the 1990s because they were much more socially conservative. Women tend to be far more conformist than men and side with society’s norms for what’s good and bad, possibly an evolutionary thing due to the heightened dangers for women who are “shunned”. In the past few decades via the media there has been a huge, top-down push to change society’s values and from the 1990s especially the media has stigmatised views which are not “progressive” (i.e. harmful to the West) and casting those who do not subscribe to the new set of moral “values” as evil. From being gatekeepers of values that had organically developed over hundreds of years women shifted over to become gatekeepers of the new hegemony which is “social justice”, “tolerance” etc.
             Example 1:
             “When women got the right to vote in 1918 the Conservatives saw them as natural sympathisers and pursued their support with gusto. In the interwar years, for example, the party published a housekeeping and style magazine—“Home and Politics”—with a circulation of 200,000. Such wooing worked. For decades women voted Tory in larger proportions than men.”
             Example 2:
             Women are still more opposed to abortion than men
             https://www.theguardian.com/science/the-lay-scientist/2014/apr/30/why-are-women-more-opposed-to-abortion

          10. Example 3: “How Britain voted in 2015” reveals little difference in voting patterns between men and women.
              https://www.ipsos-mori.com/researchpublications/researcharchive/3575/How-Britain-voted-in-2015.aspx?view=wide

          11. Really, 1918? Right after the First World War?
              I never said that women would constantly only vote left.
              Much more than men their views are dependent on environmental factors.
              In such dangerous environments patriarchy always bloomed. That is plain fact.
              It makes simple sense for women to give off all responsibility and thus risk to men in such scenarios.
              To elaborate: http://www.returnofkings.com/76219/4-surprising-ways-that-chimpanzees-and-bonobos-show-the-decline-of-our-society
              As such this figure is bullshit. “…vote Conservative than men right up until the 1990s…”
              Truly, without white knighting your “movement” wouldn’t exist.
              http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-byKN3TwiCvg/UIbzDnr1MOI/AAAAAAAAE2w/h1dIXdFDnRI/s1600/wolbrecht2.png
              http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2012/10/21/us/politics/fivethirtyeight-1021-gender2-sub/fivethirtyeight-1021-gender2-sub-blog480-v2.jpg
              All we are seeing here is a generation of women fading that experienced the war which has deeply influenced their vote.
              Are you also going to tell me now that men started with the entire feminism thing? Wow.
              “…new hegemony which is “social justice”, “tolerance” etc.” New? Sure… Such things have always come up and they did so in times of peace and prosperity. Women were always their greatest proponents. Regardless of Jews or any secret organization.
              The one long term left leaning force is the woman. Women are natural leeches of power and leftism is an ideology of leeching. You would have to choose to be oblivious to this.
              And they have just yet started. Every great civilization so far declined under this constantly growing and demanding pressure. Those few “conservative” women were simply behind their time as they had experienced the war.
              No matter what you say women are the main driving force behind leftism. Revoking their vote would assure that leftism couldn’t take hold that easily.
              Heck, not even your Jews with their masterplan would come very far.

          12. That shows nothing.
              Britain has always been in a peculiar situation. They were more there as suppressors of Europe than partaking in it. With the newly developed refugee situation this has been reinforced.
              Under threat or perceived threat patriarchies flourish. It is in a woman’s nature to give men all responsibilities and thus risks in such a scenario. In a secure environment it is also in their nature to try to get a hold on power.
              Due to their frailty they have the mind of leeches. As such they will always vote for a leeching ideology once the opportunity arises.
              Are you going to tell me that this doesn’t make any sense now? That women actually have the same mindset as men? That they are, considering that, meant to fight alongside the men?

          13. That shows that women are as likely to vote for a party that would restrict immigration as much as men do. It also shows that there are as many liberal men as there are liberal women.

          14. Correction. It shows that in such a peculiar situation women vote less liberal.
              Britain and it’s people have always seen immigration as more of a threat than other countries did.
              Did you even read the rest of what I said?

          15. You really are terrified of women, aren’t you? That says a lot about the origins of your thinking. If you’re not doing it already, you should go live in a Muslim country. You’ll be very happy there; especially with regard to their treatment of women.
              Susan Sarandon: “I don’t vote with my vagina.” Voters in line behind her still suspicious, use hand sanitizer.

          16. What is this? Do you think that your words are harmful in any way?

          17. I don’t give a crap one way or another about race; I feel immigration is just bad for our overburdened economy regardless of where the people come from, but it’s actually not true that women are “as likely to vote for a party that would restrict immigration.” Women are more likely to vote for parties that offer more incentives from big daddy government. This has been the case since they were given the right to vote in 1920. Whether this means open or closed borders is irrelevant to them. Women aren’t loyal to their “tribe”, whether it be by genetic or some whacky social group they became a part of. They’re loyal to whoever can offer them the most protection.

       2. I love how you jump in repeatedly into the top comments with you long screen hogging tripe with zero likes to confuse the goyim.
          Im so happy that i am alive to see you vampires hanging on by your fingernails. Its going to be beautiful

          1. Your fixation on likes is fascinating. Adding that you have yet to give a counter argument it certainly validates how I view you.
             How could you possibly be rational when the ideology, you apparently built yourself on, is irrational?
             You can’t and you show it.

          2. Simple. I dont debate vampires. I Just take care of them with sunlight.
             Oy Vey.

          3. Simple. I dont debate vampires. I Just take care of them with sunlight.
             Oy Vey.
             Oh and stop sending me naked pictures of yourself. I wont go out with you.
             https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fd51c78c80594693f4958b9299450bf4f455d7a26cb35db13fe5a1aa15bfbab9.jpg

          4. Let me guess. Considering your mindless enthusiasm, your bad English, your shameful display of humor and your accepted inability to have a constructive debate you are very young and not that experienced. Something with 20 at best.
             As you have never achieved jack shit in your life, you feel the need to validate yourself from an independent outward source. As such you have come to a point where you simply took your genes and the related ideology and said that those make you more “worthy” and better than other people.
             Because you are such a responsibility dodging person you just had to have some group that’s out of your reach but that still, somehow, gives a shit about you.
             The Jews are simply perfect. From now on you always see a Jew in your opponent in debate and you use that to avoid every critical thinking. Why should you debate all those Jews that only came to brainwash you, really?
             It is beyond me how such a delusional person could possibly talk to me like that though. But there you are.

          5. Colonel Gunter Brumm 2,
             Here’s a meme for you to share on DS and TRS:

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          10. Sorry comments deflecting what the Jews are doing are regularly ignored anymore. Facts are facts. The Jews are a part of the larger Pro Modernist group that has essentially perverted much of what was good into shit.

          11. I am not denying that the Jews as a group hold too much power. I am also not denying that they aren’t proponents of a leftist (and thus declining) culture.
              I am denying that it is their fault though. Every civilization (Babylon, Rome…) ever has declined even without the Jews.
              The main symptom and cause of every decline of civilization is an extended and growing amount of power held by women.
              Just look at the voting gap of the sexes for example. Women are the greatest leftists and they also vote more than men. That is a massive gravitational force towards the left.
              No wonder things like cuckservatives exist.
              The only longterm solution is to revoke the vote for women or any kind of influence and to implement a system that discriminates based on ideology not race.
              If you want I can elaborate on this further and also why it doesn’t result in the destruction of a nations identity, but rather promotes it.

          12. Oh, I’ll take a piece of that.
              You say women are the greatest leftists and destroyers of civilization. That splinters any race into men versus women instead of what race is and should be viewed as which is men and women together each as necessary parts of the whole, the race.
              But you insist women are to blame not some external force, certainly not organized international Jewry.
              My response is as follows:
              http://i.imgur.com/lcYIsiq.jpg

          13. Tell me who is giving these women the support they need. Jews? Men?
              Civilizations have fallen before and they have even done it without Jews.

    4. Dear John,
       Thanks for expressing so eloquently, and concisely, the point of view held
       by many others regarding the need, and desire, that people with a White European origin and identity have for self-preservation within the only homelands on the planet which exist for them (Europe, USA, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand).
       The insulting attacks on Roosh are certainly too much, and inappropriate.
       Nevertheless, they do not de-legitimize the goals of the ‘White nationalist’ movement within the so-called ‘alternative right’. It represents the ultimate push-back against the criminal and genocidal goals of the two evilest forces ever to exist in the history of mankind: Cultural Marxism (Socialism, Communism, ‘Statism’ etc.) and Islam.

    5. are you kidding me? there are tons of jewish shills. like alex jones. and more of other who simply welt under their influence

73. I see these guys have made their way into ROK’s comments already.

    1. This is our website now.
       You have to go back.

       1. Just saying… Roosh is more clever than I thought, lol.

          1. Bow down and worship him some more, faggot.
             (Whilst you’re still able – he’s finished – he has to go back).

          2. Yeah, this is pretty toxic.

    2. Blitzkrieg haha

       1. ha!

74. I’ll just leave this here.

    1. Nice blowup doll. Does he use that when he’s driving in the HOV lane?

75. So you’re telling me that there are white men who don’t want non white men to marry or sleep with white women? HOLY SHIT STOP THE PRESSES!:-o

76. The ALT RIGHT are akin to Rohm’s gay brownshirts. All male organisations attract these elements and that’s why ultimately you got to head up the hills on your own sweet tod.

77. Taharroosh.

78. You’ll never be White.

79. With this dies any remnant of respect I had for Roosh or the manosphere. These jackasses just recently started affiliating with the alt-right. When the majority of the alt-right rejected their enjoy-the-collapse philosophy of pumping and dumping broken products of feminism, the alt-right who prefer to build stable families and long term relationships, they started pointing fingers at the “14/88ers” which has now become their buzzword for anybody who calls them out on their shit. Protip: It wasn’t and isn’t the stormtards. From Richard Spencer of NPI, to Greg Johnson of Counter-Currents, Red Ice Radio and Arktos, nobody ever agreed with the pickup-artist lifestyle except for the people already in the manosphere. We told you to drop bullshit and you instead relented. Now the manosphere is slandering the alt-right for being a bunch of third reich larpers. Give me a fucking break.

    1. You gotta admit, he writes an article shouting down the alt right crowd and streams of heir hitler types show up almost immediately. I am not familiar with your movement but it sure does look racist

       1. Oh noes! They be ray-ray n sheeit!

          1. Figure it out. In one breath, you say you are not stormfront bottom-feeders; the next you say you are, but you don’t care. I think we know the answer.

          2. Figure it out. In one breath, you say you are not rapey creep bottom-feeders; the next you say you are, but don’t care. I think we know the answer.

          3. Your moral outrage is a joke. Are you willing to go to heartists and regularly call him a “rapey creep bottom-feeder” in the comments section? But heartiste is white (or maybe not eh?) and gets all the young men interested in looking at WN, so you give him a pass.
             Bottom line: your moral outrage is bullshit.

       2. I don’t really care what it looks like. The alt-right is a a big tent zeitgeist. It’s not a unified movement with a codex of principles and values. Roosh got trolled by some Daily Stormer types and his impression of the alt-right has been that thus since.

          1. Just look at the comments below, and it all but validates his opinion. He’s not right on everything, but the alt-right movement has some serious Nazi undertones.

          2. National socialists affiliate with the alt-right, but they are not the alt-right. Among the things the alt-right agrees upon, it’s the right of self determination, and the right to work in the collective benefit of the people we identify with, which happen to be white. We don’t really care if that’s considered racist by contemporary definitions, because it’s a leftist buzzword, and for all intents and purposes lost it’s power.

          3. There’s nothing “14/88” nazi about wanting to live in a society alongside your people, built by your people, for your people, for your family and your descendants.

          4. That’s the problem, most of us won’t have any descendants.

          5. I think that’s pretty obvious given the manosphere’s casual attitude towards the decline of western civilization, which Roosh has redpilled hundreds of thousands about. Where the alt-right and the manosphere disagree is the fact the manosphere refuses to do anything about it, and would rather ride the collapse.

          6. Yeah, but if you get shit for not being white–and I’m saying this as a white–and you see comments like “Jew faggot,” or “Are you Indian, Negro, or Jew,” doesn’t portray the alt-right in the best light.

          7. It seems incredibly weak and impotent to need “your people” as your full identity. Have you thought about accomplishing something and then identifying yourself according to things you built instead of some random accident of birth?

          8. Okay, why don’t you start by giving me your 19 year old daughter?

          9. You’re an alpha male, aren’t you? I used to exclusively affiliate with the manosphere and I’ve moved on. Use some of what you’ve learned to hold down a girlfriend, redpill her and start a family. Honestly, I don’t understand why this is hard to get.

          10. No, I’m not an alpha male at all. I can’t hold down a girlfriend, I’m lucky to get laid at all and very infrequently. I just want to find a wife but that’s impossible as women don’t want that now.

          11. I have a question: Maybe you addressed this point and I may have missed it and if so, I apologize. At any rate, where are on the usage of the “Roosh is a rapist” accusation by some of the folks in the Alt-Right?

          12. It’s not a matter of what women want. It’s a matter of what you want. Who cares who women want. Women are malleable. Women want what men want. Has RoK taught you nothing?

          13. What’s that supposed to mean? That I should knock one on the head and drag her back to my cave? I can’t control female behavior.

          14. Thanks, man.

          15. Figuratively, yes. You lock down a girlfriend, and with basic masculinity your dynamic and cooperative relationship leads to something stable, functional and famillial. If there’s no continuation, there is no future. If there is nothing to pass the baton down to, you inevitably pass that baton down to the millions of culturally incompatible foreigners that are flooding the west thanks to our politicians Roosh blogs about. You essentially enable invasion. Without the family, no culture can be passed down. No culture, no identity. No identity, no civilization.

          16. These are autistic spergs. Befriend any socially normal member of the alt-right and you won’t see this. Common courtesy and basic civility aren’t exclusive to the left. I don’t know where this notion that nationalists have to be rude as fuck to minorities comes from

          17. I’ll take that on board. However wouldn’t it be simpler to replace women with some type of artificial womb? Then we can have real eugenics.

          18. I think the manosphere is doing something about it by riding the collapse, because it brings the collapse into view and maybe makes it preventable. And so far, the AltRight I’ve encountered have been for racial control of reproduction, exogenesis artificial wombs to have more intelligent offspring without women. That’s the wrong thing to do about it. What we should do is #BanMalePregnancyand end same sex marriage, and then watch as things get better.

          19. I’m not claiming any accomplishment. Your argument is akin to denouncing the accomplishments of your immediate family members because they aren’t yours. It’s not about what I’ve done. It’s a matter on continuity and patrimony. I find your disregard and lack of concern for the future and next generation to be narcissistic and selfish.

          20. It comes from the radical racial elements of the alt-right, namely the C.I. Christians, national socialists and more extreme ethnonationalists. You can disagree with racial mixing and not hurl racial slurs and ethnic insults. For us, it’s a matter of continuity and patrimony.

          21. I’ll go half way and settle for a lobotomized women then. I was hoping that women would just become extinct through obsolescence but clearly that isn’t what you want.

          22. No! It would be more complicated and expensive and destroy the basis of liberty. We need to ban the shit out of artificial wombs. Men need women to have children. Maybe you won’t have children, don,t worry, the world will make do somehow with the children other people have.

          23. dude wat

          24. I’m perfectly fine with that. It won’t stop progress though.

          25. Of course I won’t have children. I’m not exciting or degenerate enough to attract women.

          26. We need to #BanMalePregnancy. We can have Congress pass the Natural Marriage and Reproduction Act that ends gay marriage and preserves reproduction rights of marriage. Male pregnancy and artificial wombs are unnecessary and unethical.

          27. Ethics, morals and rights are for cowards and weaklings. They don’t exist except as mental constructs.

          28. “You can disagree with racial mixing and not hurl racial slurs and ethnic
              insults. For us, it’s a matter of continuity and patrimony.”
              which would be fine. i’m hardly going to get butthurt when your side calls my children “half beaners” but i’d respect you more if you were to refrain from such behavior.

          29. i don’t think he’s a regular. i’ve never seen him here.

          30. Common courtesy and basic civility have nothing to do with the left.

          31. No birth is random.

          32. So you could have a helicopter ride then?

          33. It’s because you are a curry smelling hairball.

          34. Jeb?

          35. Why should any new movement have to base it’s premise on the liberal lie of the blank slate? The reason people believe this is because this is how the elites control society. If you implicitly accept your enemy’s premise when looking at the world, you will never defeat them in debate, the public sphere, or in the making of policy. It’s like letting someone cut your legs off ‘to be fair’ before a footrace.

          36. Exactly. That’s what America was pre-1965… mostly, anyway.

          37. What’s your point?
              All of the third world should be able to move to White countries and transform them until White children have no place to call home?
              According to that, we should be able to migrate to any country, conquer it via ethnic cleansing, and then put up our own institutions. That’s what’s happening in every White country.

          38. I didn’t say anything about a “blank slate” or “accepting your enemy’s premise;” it’s purely the whole “maintaining a white homeland” and “purifying the race” language used by Greg Johnson with which I have a problem. That shit is straight out of Daily Stormer.
              All cultures are certainly not equal, but any race can adopt the principles of western civilization if they wanted to. The USA is a great example of such.

          39. No, your argument is based off of that premise. Your second paragraph in proves this; western civilization is based on sacrifice and blood, not on ideals. Wealth and culture do not spring out of the earth or come from a piece of paper.

          40. Thank you for saving me the energy of finishing a post basically saying the same thing.
              You can’t always have your cake and eat it too.

       3. I think both sides are wrong in this, but cries of racism have to stop. Shaming people for doing something that every living organism on the planet did to survive and continues to do is not only idiotic, but absurd and obtuse.

       4. Do you actually think anyone cares about being called raaaayyycisss anymore?

    2. Hardly – the manosphere barely advocates the playboy lifestyle these days, you’re thinking from an outdated framework

    3. You know the problem with this is that even the supposedly intellectual branches of the movement like MPC have threads about “drunk negros”, “filthy kikes”, “naggers”. That’s the “genius” of AltRight; you are the same whitepriders but you’ve dressed it up in sleek rhetoric. You can’t run away from what you are today; whatever you were in the past, today there is nothing significant about your ideology except targeting non-whites.

       1. Fuck off shill!. Go make more deceptive accounts claiming to be “white pride nazi” antagonizing minorities and discrediting nationalism.

    4. You speak the truth, prepare to be banned by these tards.

       1. This is the only article he posted on for ROK, mainly due to being triggered. Guess your comment counts as a double trigger. Or, were you triggered by association?

    5. Divide and conquer

80. This has nothing to do with the race realist faction and everything to do with the traditionalists. I’m over just banging everything. Understanding female psychology is important, but just sleeping around is meaningless.

81. Have White babies.
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    1. dude, what happen….some hebes spin your sister like a dreidel?
       You boys need to grow up. All this energy you have could actually be put to constructive uses if you could find a way to take your heads out of your asses.

       1. I actually admire their confrontation.
          Hopefully, after today, they can go on with their lives with a fresh mind, having unleashed their rages the night before.

          1. Meister Baiting or Reiching Off?

          2. You look like a faggot.

          3. It wasn’t enough, I guess.

       2. There is nothing more productive than identifying and naming the Jew.
          If you don’t know that yet you’ve got a lot to learn, son.

          1. How come you guys are always losing to the Jews?
             Even if everything you say is right, at this point you should just give up.
             All you people do is whine all day about Jews, sounds like you can’t compete.
             Pathetic!

          2. just lost foolish children…..that’s all you guys are. A real shame.

          3. I’m far more intelligent than you.
             I’ve researched this topic and I know that I’m right.
             You are clueless. You are too arrogant to be told.
             You are a fucking fool.

    2. Eigenvector- Is a vector that does not change its direction under a linear transformation. Interesting visual metaphors of electron wave-functions oscillating like the music of the spheres around a noble gas fill my mind like the stuff stars are made of.

82. “They also came after me, sending hundreds of angry tweets for the main reason that I’m not white but am seen as attractive and masculine by white women.”
    Exactly why 90%+ of all white women find you to be a fucking ugly ass rat.
    Also a word of advice to all you young guys looking to get into “game”. Don’t. Here’s even better advice, just fuck like 10-15 escorts and stop listening to ugly ass nerds for dating advice. Problem solved.

83. Shame on you niggers. All you know is degeneracy, but you will never find happiness in it.

84. http://i.imgur.com/LBGQ4MQ.jpg

    1. Curious do you guys hate Jews so much because they are better than you?

       1. Nobody hates Jews.

       2. Nice try JIDF.
          They hate us. They are at war with us and intend to destroy us.
          But, you know that already. Don’t you, Kike.

          1. No I’m black, but I’m curious. When are you guys going to win?
             How come all you do is identify Jew problem
             Here, Jew problem there….why don’t you do something about it.
             At this point I would objectively have to declare you losers. All I ever hear about is how these guys are getting over on you. Well assuming you are right, maybe there just better pal!
             Honestly, if some kid kept coming up to you talking about a group of kids that constantly beat him. What would you think of him?

          2. Whatever, dude.

          3. That one really hurt didn’t it because it is the certifiable truth.
             It’s what I have always known about you 14/88 types. If it was about pride in you’re culture that’s one thing but all I see is whiny losers hating on Jews the way nerds hate the quarterback of the football team.

          4. Nothing you say to me would ever hurt, Bauer.
             Don’t flatter yourself. You’re talking to a real alpha male, not some shitskin fraudster.
             Learn your fucking place and watch your mouth, nigger.

          5. A real keyboard alpha male. So scary.

          6. You guys need to work on your insults.
             Pretty disappointed tbh.

          7. Alpha males don’t get into forum fights, genius. And they certainly don’t have to tell anyone that they’re “alpha.”
             Goddamn, this is the funniest shit I’ve seen on RoK in a couple of years.

          8. Whatever, “King.”
             (lel)

          9. “Whatever” seems to be your go-to line when confronted with the truth. Don’t worry, though, everybody has to grow up eventually and you will too.

          10. It’s just, that you have nothing to say worth reading.
              “Whatever” covers it succinctly.

       3. Jews are nation wreckers.

85. Return of Kangz.

86. IOW, I can’t support altright bcuz muh dik.

87. Well now I hate everyone.

88. This one got all weird. I’m going to have to peace out. See you guys around when the extra chromosome brigade peters itself out.

89. Good point,
    The shiksa evolution is the best path for White females.
    latinos, blacks, and muslims embrace a traditional role that have served them for millennia. What do they know?
    White gals must be vacuous wh0res.
    RoK, thanks for clearing that up.

90. A victory speech without a victory?
    Think you are jumping on the SJW race bandwagon. Race is the issue they default to over gender anyway. So you are right in the heart of it.
    Hard to imagine how much you elevate banging sluts to a virtue.
    It is meaningless. The world is full of sluts, scoring on them is just another false victory.

    1. I agree. Alt right needs to learn that women should not have power though! Without them Europe wouldn’t be flooded with rapefugees.

       1. The alt right already knows this.

91. j3w w0t m8

92. Lookism/Puahate/sluthate has destroyed the PUA narrative – go ER.

93. This article makes me feel ill towards both the alt right and Roosh.
    The Alt Right must learn that women should not vote or hold power!
    Roosh must realize that racial homogeneity matters very much to the long term success of a nation. I agree with him that people should be allowed to choose of course.
    At least we all like Trump!

94. How many Kike JIDF hang out in this shithole, ffs?
    Does anyone post here that isn’t a shitskin or Yid?

    1. Roosh has attacked the jews m8

       1. He needs to clear out his comment section.
          This place is infested.

          1. Oy vey

          2. Fire up the ovens.

          3. Where’s Roosh? Shut this down!

    2. ^^^says the guy always losing to Jews instead of beating them.
       Why not admit defeat, all you do is complain about Jews doing this, Jews doing that.
       It’s weak kid, you’re just a hater!

       1. ^ kike detected

          1. African actually.
             Prove me wrong kid, when are you “aryan” types finally going to get over on the Jews you claim to hate so much.
             Face it, you’re a loser, according to you they do whatever they want and there is nothing you can do about it.
             You’re soft B!

          2. So you’ve repeated a dozen times.

          3. Awe did I hurt your feelings loser!

          4. It’s ok fam, they are scared shitless and kvetch all the time.
             Just like Africans.
             It will be fine, we’re not animals. You’re a well-spoken negro, I’ll vouch for you!

          5. Is this all you have, nigger?
             Just repeating yourself over and over.

          6. Enough verbal IQ to repeat talking points.

       2. They win all arguments eventually, when the moderators arrive.

95. The manosphere in general has taught me a lot and I hope it continues to serve as a wake-up call for men who have been misled by their friends, families, and the educational system.
    That said, I tune out whenever I see Jew-bashing or white power bullshit, despite the fact that I’m as white as white can be. The racial politics are a smokescreen, and whether they’re perpetrated by leftist moles or ignorant hillbilly fucks who actually think skin color matters, it’s a pointless waste of everyone’s time that only serves to divide heterosexual men who should be sticking together to fight the real enemy.

    1. I agree. The real enemy is women.

       1. Gay

          1. Whipped.

          2. Gay and whipped, I don’t care about specifics.
             Your poison.

    2. Jews invented feminism, you haven’t the faintest idea what you’re talking about do you? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/49c80a4c2da3f9ad103270fcd7e18dd434a49fa5b4cc3ae221763389540a08ad.jpg

       1. Mom!!! The Jews are being mean to me again!

          1. Try refuting what I’ve said. Surely that’s the least an Alpha Returning King such as you is capable of, fuckwit.

          2. Eww, look at all those rat-faced pig demons.
             Grotesque.

       2. Why focus on the fact that all those pics are Jewish? You could just as well pick out any one of a dozen other unifying traits.
          Holy shit, people with two eyes invented feminism! Oh fuck, people with teeth invented feminism! Why even stop there? Why not just say that humans in general invented feminism?
          Picking out irrelevant and arbitrary shit like ancestry as a basis for identifying your enemies is the reasoning of a child. The only thing that matters are people’s actions.

          1. Naive, gullible twat.
             Fuck off.

          2. Feminism is just another way of saying, fvck White goy women.
             We’re gonna make so much money off the chaos.

          3. Like I said, the reasoning of a child, lol.

          4. Hahahaha lol, funny as fuck m8.
             How is it even possible to be so naive and gullible, you clueless, moronic sheep?
             Have you swallowed every Kike lie?

          5. Quite a lot of sand in your cunt there, friend. I wouldn’t call your ignorance funny, just sad. Do us all a favor and refrain from voting or procreating.
             Thanks in advance.

          6. It is the actions of one group breaking down the mechanism of procreation of another group. To deny this obvious reality is ”childlike”.
             But as I have already said on this thread, it’s easier for you Alpha Kings to heap the blame on women working 12 hour shifts in the box factory.
             You fucking frauds.

          7. If they were all Catholics or Germans would you say that was irrelevant?

          8. Yeaaahh. Does the shit you type make sense in your head? I hope so, because here in the real world it’s incoherent jibberish.
             For the record, I’m no “Alpha King,” whatever the fuck that is. RoK is one of many sites I read. Also for the record, Denethor would’ve been a more accurate name.
             Cheers!

          9. I guess you can try refuting my argument some other day then.

          10. Sure, because it is. The only thing that matters are their opinions and the actions that result from them.
              You can’t lump a huge group of people together as some monolithic enemy devoid of individual thought. Well, you can, but then you’re just writing shitty brainless sci-fantasy like the Borg or whatever.

          11. Sure, after you actually make one.

          12. Tumblrina, please.
              Go be triggered somewhere else.
              The big boys are talking.

          13. Fair enough but their race is not an irrelevant factor to them.They take it very seriously.

          14. They are, but not in this particular sub-thread, lol.

          15. I’m sure some of them do, just like it’s so very important to the brainless twats I’ve wasted time replying to elsewhere in this thread.
              My point is that regardless of what race you are, it’s an archaic, imbecilic, and ultimately counterproductive thing to give a shit about. All it does is keep actual discussion from happening and actual progress from being made.

          16. That’s a very white thing to say. No other tribe feels the same way.

          17. Really? You speak for every member of every non-white tribe?

          18. Universalising tendency as opposed to the Jewish particularism.

          19. You’re getting destroyed, petal.
              Do you have anything at all?
              Any thoughts of your own?

          20. You don’t have to, just enough of them

          21. I have you breathlessly checking my posts every five minutes for your next lesson! I’ll be here way past your bedtime, though, unfortunately for you.

          22. So, I’ll take that as a no then.
              SJW boiler plate it is.
              Disappointed, tbh.

          23. “Disappointed, tbh.”
              “Whatever.”
              Seen those from you at least twice in this thread already. Is your cock as limp as your trolling skills? That would explain the impotent rage and your third-grade debate skills.

          24. 0/10 tbh, fam.

          25. You’re not too bright are you?

          26. That’s what I thought, lol.

          27. It’s just a Cohencidence.

          28. Yeah, but people with 2 eyes constitutes close to 100% of the world population. Why is it that less than 1% (jews) seem to be so common when it comes to feminism though?

          29. Everyone nose it’s arbitrary

    3. tumblr, the post
       You don’t have to go to race war, faggot.
       Race war will come to you.

    4. %100, this white power nonsense has nothing to do with the proper manosphere goal of self improvment for “all” men.

96. Breaking news: White nationalists oppose miscegenation.

    1. What?? what sorcery is this?

       1. I want to say jews but in this case it wasn’t the other white meat.

          1. And you thought Fiat stamped their name only on cars.

       2. The Lord God you Christians obey is a Jew in big boots!

          1. Didn’t you say recently that we need the roman catholic church to protect europe from the current invasion? don’t get me wrong i respect a man who doesn’t succumb to black and white thinking but instead can have “opposing” views simultaneously, just curious about your stance.

    2. Let’s face it: You REALLY recoil when you see non-whites banging white women. Seeing white men with non-white women is unfortunate and they definitely shouldn’t procreate. But when you see some black dude with chains taking a hot white girl home, thats when you feel your inferiority, then retreat to your man-cave and beat off to inter-racial porn.

       1. You seem a little too emotionally invested in your point of view to be considered rational. You also seem to fetishize black men as being uber masculine. You are most certainly an asian or an indian.

          1. Haha, you are intimidated by basic psychology. If you understand human nature, people are animals and subconscious traumas define their decisions, not rational assessments.

       2. The reason why we have different reactions is due to the fact that women control sex. The future of white people is in the hands of women, who have been programmed to hate white men. If some gook bitch wants to ruin her blood line, so be it. But when a white woman chooses to have non-white children, she is actively saying fuck you to all her ancestors hard work of fighting off invaders.

          1. My mother ruined thousands of years of viking genetics to have kids with someone of a different race. I will forever resent her for it, and promise to get my bloodline back on track within a generation. Some of us still have some sense, I promise you.

97. White american women wrecked themselves long before roosh showed up on the scene. Get some perspective.

    1. Feminism enabled ideologies like that Roosh follows to thrive. You couldn’t game women like this when they were more virtuous and less feminist.

       1. So pedestalize damaged white american women if you want. Let us know how that works for you.

          1. Yeah sure guess I’d rather die surrounded by descendants speaking Tagalog

          2. ah … the siren sound of a catfight.

          3. Some people here are really into LBFMs.

       2. All feminism has done is emancipate women’s nature to the point that it is shown in it’s raw form. Otto Weininger and Julius Evola say it best.

          1. And Otto Weininger was a Jew too! A non left wing Jew I hear you sceam from the ALT-RIGHT…oh our paradigm has been shattered…and don’t give me the Hilter quote, it’s tried.

          2. Jews aren’t blameless, but blaming them for female nature is beyond ridiculous.

          3. It’s called deflection. We can’t control our women, so, hey it must be the Jews fault, or maybe, “liberated women” don’t just click with hillbillies who go snake wrestling every Sunday?

          4. That doesn’t really contradict his point. Regardless of whether being a slut is in women’s nature or not, if you have traditional gender roles, women won’t slut around.

          5. Here is an interesting comment:
             Any system of “SMV” will inevitably slide towards moralizing. This is due to reification.
             The original PUA based “redpill” notions were much better than modern
             “neomasculine” because the original red pill was that women sleep with
             objectively inferior men. However the “male hamster” spins away and
             generates false consciousness by saying that women’s attraction to men
             has to do with “masculine virtues”. This is because men value women, and
             because they value women they automatically attribute to them natures
             that are far too pure. What men have to do, is as a class* realize that
             it is they who create the value of women, that it is their
             self-generated valuing capacity which enables to do this (their capacity
             for romantic idealism), and therefore they can create their own
             standards without needing the vessel of a woman (a muse) and then impose
             them onto real women after the fact.
             When a man thinks a woman is great it is really he himself who is
             great, and he just mistakenly projects this onto a blank female canvas,
             which is why he is so upset when women are slutty because that stains
             the canvas. It is men who are beautiful, because beauty is literally in
             the eye of the beholder. In our gynarchic system, man is alienated from
             his romantic ideal in the exact same way a worker is alienated from the
             fruit of his labor. After the revolution, he who is last shall be
             first, because it is precisely those men who suffer from “oneitis” the
             most who has the greatest creative faculties.
             When a man suffers from false consciousness, he believes that women
             create the value of men, because he thinks, “Well if women really like
             this guy he must be a really great guy.” This view gives all the power
             to the fickle whims of women. When a man is enlightened by scientific
             sexual socialism, he knows that it is men who create the value of women.
             He knows that if a man really likes a woman, then he must be a really
             great man.
             http://www.theabsolute.net/ottow/sexcharh.html
             Sex and Character shows that another world is possible. Of course,
             the author relapses into reactionary schemes towards the end, because he
             did not go far enough. He lived before the advent of sexual capitalism
             and could not see the full revolutionary implications of his own text.
             However, now that sexual capitalism has had time (since the ’20s at
             least) to fully destroy the remnants of the old society, and that a
             classical sexual economy has been developed (“game”, “the red pill”,
             “PUA” etc.), it is now time for a critique of classical sexual economy;
             it is time for the development of Marxist sexual economy. It is time to
             stop developing theoretical systems to accommodate ourselves to what is —
             to the realities of the sexual marketplace — and to start to develop
             theoretical systems for the ruthless criticism and utter annihilation of
             the current order, to change those realities and midwife into being a
             new world-historical order, a new millennium of enlightened progress.
             https://aeolipera.wordpress.com/2016/02/14/republican-candidate-ssmv-ratings/#comments

          6. How ironic you praise Julius Evola, a fascist and Alt-Right hero

          7. Maybe we’re all too obsessed with sex and women? There’s a whole multifaceted universe of rich experiences that the mind and spirit can discover outside the neurotic mania of having to get your nightly fix from yet another one night stand.

          8. I don’t believe that Evola identified as a fascist.

          9. Yes, that is Heaviside’s point. However the culture is currently gynocentric and therefore obsessed with it’s only imperative. Sex and women.

          10. “the culture is currently gynocentric” People are actually having far less sex now than back in the 1990s. As Ecco Umberto noted we’re largely moving to a society that’s becoming post sexual in the sense that it will or does not have the same hold on our appetites as it once did. We’ve so many other distractions to fill this space nowadays if we so choose.

          11. People are having less sex because of feminist imperatives to control access to viable mates for men. Also pornography/video game addiction correlates strongly with this assumption. It’s all controlled opposition. Women are the enemy.

          12. You just have to look at the queues of beautiful western women lining up to fuck degenerates and criminals. Hybristophilia is real. Women don’t deserve rights.

          13. Do you not think “queues” is an exaggeration?

          14. Sometimes the reasons are much more banal and mundane, apparently the Boxset of Game of Thrones is winning out on the sofa on Saturday nights more these days, and, these are guys who are doing this.

          15. Obviously it’s hyperbole. But it’s not far from the truth.

98. You have to go back.
    http://i.imgur.com/gwOTlC5.png

    1. WHERE DA WHYTE WIMMIN AT NIGGA???

       1. There are people in this thread, right now, defending this shitskin subhuman.

          1. That what it means to be cucked. Stockholm Syndrome.

          2. It certainly looks that way.

    2. 11 more months to Trump.

    3. Where is the headline from? You made it up…careful now.

       1. It’s from an English newspaper.
          I am English. Sorry to burst your bubble, but we’re not all “hillbilly snake wrestlers”.
          The people invading your safe space are better read, significantly more intelligent and vastly more worldly than you.
          Think about that, snowflake.

          1. I doubt it. It looks as fabricated as your name. If you’re significantly more intelligent than the rest of us why hasn’t the BNP ever won a single seat in the British Parliament? Obviously your message must be so sophisticated that rest of us were blinded by its profundity.

          2. {{{triggered}}}

          3. And this constitutes an intelligent response, ah Snowflake!! Lol.
             Your Honor the Jury rests.

       2. You are wrong about everything, aren’t you?
          http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10061217/Imams-promote-grooming-rings-Muslim-leader-claims.html

          1. No, you’re not in the Vril society. It probably never existed.

          2. Well, one things for certain, you’re not a Hindu deity.

          3. No.

          4. So it was made it up! I don’t think the Editor of the tele would be too happy with your artistic efforts!

99. This is where to alt right movement reaches its logical conclusion… giving a pussy pass to white women only. That’s just a different brand of feminism.

    1. “muh white girl princess”

    2. Is having preferences feminism now?

100. Hi Roosh, thank you for your contribution to the moment (I refuse to give it a label before it solidifies) and I wish you success in what you want to achieve. Anyone with a throwaway email address can comment here anytime, RoK.com was never going to a ‘club’ (clubs imply exclusivity) just a melting pot for ideas. 1488 ideas revolt me but they are just ideas right now.
     This will never be a club and never will it command authority until the members bare responsibility for their ideas. I think you see this and I think that’s what the meet ups are about. Right now we’ve nothing to loose by commenting here so we are all cowards. Soon, men will know each other, contribute their personal wealth to a common fund and publicly acknowledge their beliefs within their local community. Only then we this a) be a movement with a label and b) be free from 1488.

     1. Christ almighty. Another faggot 🙁
        Where do y’all crawl out from?

101. http://i.imgur.com/8DePOtH.jpg

102. I will rewrite a comment from my reply to a great guy from the alt right
     “I’m disappointed. Why attack guys who agree on most shit.
     He was very correct in identifying what we should focus on, in “The
     American Elites Hate America”. Natalism, Patriarchy, Traditional gender
     roles, skepticism of Israeli interest and so on.
     This article was definitely not a good idea. Most here agree on 90 % on
     things. Just recently I talked about how nazis were right about certain
     stuff like the integral family unit and traditional gender roles and other aspects that are now demonized and how jews took advantage of the moral capital post WW2 to promote the anti white narative. 90% of people here are redpill. This is useless
     infighting.
     Roosh went wrong in that he is claiming wanting more whites and less miscegenation is SJWish because it puts limits on male
     sexuality. I think it’s stupid, this is mostly an american issue anyway.
     There are few asian and african women around me to pursue and I don’t
     care anyway, it’s a non-issue. I wouldn’t care, even if they were.
     I think it mostly comes from his disappointment that the alt-right joined the feminists and attacked him when the community here was vulnerable.
     I am also slightly disappointed in some alt-righters claiming he is a
     rapist. A kebab, fine, rapist no. The reaction against him was somewhat
     hysterical. Even if you are against degenerates or kebabs, he is a drop
     in the bucket. A small issue, compared to what is happening in Europe
     now.
     Roosh burned a bridge for nothing here. The community here
     provided a nice place where a man intelligently pointing out issues with jews or
     massive ammounts of non-whites would be listened to and agreed.
     Just look at my comment history. Similarly, a man who pointed out problems with women, modernity, PUA, modern marriage would be acknowledged, even by the pro-white side. Just look at some past threads.
     This great mix is what attracted me. It was a bridging point between
     the manosphere and the alt-right. Hell, Roosh pointed out the JQ and even upliked explicitly shitlord comments. He even got flack from pussies for being too pro-white.
     Now a useless rift was created. The alt right thinks guys here are
     balding PUAs who care nothing more than banging sluts, and ROK thinks
     alt-righters are Illinois nazis, one-sided caricatures. There is truth
     to these statements, but it’s overblown.
     To see this type of useless bickering is saddening. Just recently I saw a
     video that got me so enraged, for the first time in my life I felt like
     starting a murder spree, and I don’t say this lightly. This was the
     first time I was THIS angry. I feel the fire in the air. Europe waiting
     to be awakened, Islamic invaders and Westerners on both sides, one
     eagerly preparing for war, the other slowly waking up.
     Meanwhile we split hairs whether Roosh is a kebab rapist or not (hint : he
     isn’t) for fucking a drunk slut when there are invaders raping 4 year
     old boys regularly. Both sides look like absolute fags now.
     Look at ROK men. Most have guns, most are very anti-establishment. Just look
     at recent coments in articles talking about preparing for an armed
     rebellion. Dead serious about it.
     We are on the same page on 90%of shit. Both sides look like 5 year olds measuring each other’s dicks while the house is burning.
     This article was bad. I have no bad blood for ROK men or alt-righters. This was a stupid episode. Let it die out.
     I hope the same attitude from before re-established. I want good
     discussion on issues of mass migration, the future of Europe, problems
     with the establishment, JQ as well as the problems of feminism,
     marxism, cultural relativism and becoming better men.
     No useless rifts. Busting each other’s balls is fine. Creating useless feuds isn’t.”

     1. EXACTLY. Im pissed at everyone atm. The right just cant stop fighting itself…

     2. I’d take a shot at Roosh too if this was unprovoked, but it’s really not his fault. These white nationalists are acting like huge faggots. And for what? Because Roosh is “non-white.” Please, even if that shit ever mattered, he’s pretty fucking white.

        1. Yes.
           Plus Persians are on the same tree as Indo-Europeans. Hell, half the Greeks I know are less “white” than him.

           1. I’m half Italian(from Piedmont in the North) and half Palestinian(Christian family), my mother who’s a full blooded Palestinian is many measures whiter than the vast majority of souther Italian women I see, especially Sicilian and Calabrian. If you consider us Italians, the Greeks and the Spaniards(at least half of them used to be Sephardi Jews who converted to Christianity during the Reconquista) then you should consider Arab Christians to be white too, not the muslims though, as that ideology corrupts and turns them into enemies.

           2. Arab Christians aren’t White.

        2. “These white nationalists are acting like huge faggots. And for what? Because Roosh is ‘non-white.’” I honestly don’t think any of those people were necessarily really alt right/WN. They were probably just trolls. If they were really were WN they would consider Roosh white anyways (as he is Persian). I honestly don’t get why so many WN don’t consider Middle Eastern peoples white anyways. If you look at any map of racial classification from pre-WWII (back before SJW’s took over biology and anthropology), they considered the Middle East/North Africa to be white.

           1. That’s because they were White before Muslims took over, exterminated the men, and raped the women. That’s why they’re Caucasian, but not White.

           2. You don’t understand how hereditary traits work.

           3. Obviously you don’t. Nobody in their right mind considers Arabs and Moroccans White.

           4. “Nobody in their right mind considers Arabs and Moroccans White.” Arabs as in from Arabia? Well no, they aren’t Indo-European (though they are Caucasian-Semitic), but the “Arabs” from Syria (not the “Syrians migrants” who are really from Pakistan) display fairly white/Indo-European features. Anyways though, that is irreverent, Roosh isn’t even an “Arab”/Semite, he is Persian and Armenian both of which are Indo-European, also Armenians aren’t Muslim, so no, they don’t have any “Arab” blood in them…

103. Poor title choice.
     Return of Kings is as alt-right of a site as it gets. You seem to be referring to white nationalists, who are a subset of the alt-right, but not encompassing the entire spectrum. The alt-right is a huge movement which includes antifeminists, white nationalists, survivalists, neoreactionaries, monarchists, nationalists, among others.
     I agree with a lot of white nationalist theory, but don’t consider myself one because I think their obsession with race is overblown and should take a backseat to the aims of neomasculinity. I know Roosh said he would no longer attack allies on the right, but it’s huge faggotry for WNs to attack him like this just on the basis of his “race.” This proves my earlier point: they focus on making certain races the enemy instead of taking down the real enemy, SJW liberal types and the media puppeteers that control them.
     “especially since race is not even close to being a defining factor for men looking for a suitable partner.” Come on. It might not be the MAIN defining factor, but to say it’s not a defining factor is ludicrous. I have close to zero attraction for black and asian women, and I suspect Roosh might be similar.
     I suspect Roosh wasn’t thinking when he made the quote about the future of white society. He was born in one, and immigrated to a few because he felt they were superior. He’s just as invested in the future of white society as any of us.

104. What’s the deal here? Just because some opportunistic dirt-person decides to make asses of the feminists doesn’t make us friends, chief.

     1. Some alt right cunt got offended by the latest buzz she saw on the net about ROK, so now alt right males must make symbolic protest of mate guarding. Its a fucking joke. Losing respect fast.

        1. Which cunt? That dumb broad who thinks the earth is flat?

           1. Its really been eye opening. So many different people threatened by game. Feminists, religious conservatives, now the alt right. Fucking unreal how disturbed they are that beta males might get more access to sex. The leaders of these movements are so worried they could lose control of their beta males.

           2. That doesn’t make any sense. Beta males don’t get sex unless the lawn needs to be mowed. If you get tail, you’re not a beta.

           3. That’s wrong and a common distortion of beta males. Beta’s get tail they just have to work harder for it. For alphas it just happens with minimal or no effort.

           4. I just said that. What part of “the lawn needs to be mowed” didn’t register?

           5. Your words “If you get tail, you’re not a beta.” Beta’s get tail, they aren’t incels.

           6. Time to get out the Toro!

           7. I never said they were incel, Don’t put words in my masked mouth. I said “the lawn needs to be mowed”. That means, Mrs. Anonymous is going to have some duty sex so that you go push the damn thing around until the grass is trimmed.

           8. Agreed. What Roosh has done, that is hated beyond hatred, vilified and loathed is promote the idea of Betas getting more than scraps.
              The idea that being alpha is more about a particular attitude, self improvement etc rather than something angels have smiled upon and the Gods ordained because of your genetic and cultural place in life is something that feminists, the media and society want to obliterate. It is the cultural nuclear bomb. You can improve yourself.

           9. Alphas don’t need game. If you’re running game you aren’t alpha. Alpha’s don’t spend time on sites discussing game.

           10. And by doing so, no longer being beta. The point I was trying to address before I got dragged into niggling word-games was that betas aren’t permanently betas. This isn’t “Brave New World”.

           11. I haven’t discussed game. I made an observation that your argument didn’t follow. And it still doesn’t. No one is permanently a beta male.

           12. Then that’s where we disagree. Beta’s can’t become alpha, they can become less beta and improve themselves, but that’s not the same as alpha. I’m not going to argue that. People do disagree on that.

           13. I’ve been told that I’m decent looking. I grew up in an extremely abusive and neglect filled environment. I never knew how to act around women when I was younger. As I grow older, more experienced and learn more about the world I start to see that the things the manosphere says are true and that we live in a literal matrix designed to keep men like myself as slaves. This isn’t right.
               If I can help even a fraction of men to not go through the pain and misery of my upbringing I will. I don’t care what race or creed they are.

           14. Disagree. You’re once again playing into feminine narratives of control.

           15. They don’t get sex after the lawn is mowed…….which is the real point. Keep your eye on the goal.

105. So many big mouth faggots in this thread.
     You’re getting schooled, children.
     Drop the arrogance and learn something.

106. Lots of males who would pass the whiteness test with the alt right are running game. Its not like roosh invented game. Most of the comments are irrelevant.

     1. I’d say Roissy invented the ordered concept of “game”. Roosh is a Persian Tucker Max.

     2. A problem with “game” is its name. Sounds ghetto and predatory. It’s really just courtship. But that word is too cornball.

        1. Its not courtship. You’re too uniformed to comment.

           1. Bite me!

           2. Courtship is what you do when you’re looking for “the one” leading to marriage. That’s not game.

           3. I meant courtship in the behavioral sense, that is, to win over the opposite sex for mating.

     3. Game is what ruined society. Rather than the one man to one woman system where the 10s married other 10s, the 7s with 7s, the 4s with 4s, and the few stragglers remaining kissless virgins, we now have a system of mutually assured sexual destruction. In order to attract mates, one must spend ridiculous amounts of time working out, grooming, developing game, playing emotional games, etc. By the time people realize that this shit is retarded, they are 35-40 years old and will unlikely form a family, or a best, have one very spoiled child. The most capable of society don’t reproduce, and the few who do reproduce a retards being payed by welfare to create mongrels.

107. right, the stormfront types are here
     Roosh, this article may have needlessly widened a rift that should’ve probably been left alone
     Of course there are white nationalists who go off on you not being white enough and/or fucking their women, but I’d say there’s also a large number of ideological nationalists who realize you sticking it to the equalists is a net gain
     Just let the issue die down

     1. I admire your economy of words. Wish I could express it thusly. But hey, why say what can be said in 100 words when 10,000 will suffice?

        1. Always keep it short and to the point………

     2. Or you could just return to china.

108. Feminism started as a shit test – women seeing how much bad behavior they could get away with without being spanked. The powers that be handed it to them; though most men held on to the candle of masculinity, (((Hollywood))) distorted perceptions, and (((lawyers))) destroyed marriage.
     Twenty years later, the misbehaving women have decided that their country men are no longer deserving of their wombs, so they seek after the strange of rapefugees. Being an honoured wife and grandmother doesn’t interest them (how many of them honour their grandmothers?); they’d rather be a piece of meat chained to a Mosque wall.
     These women have betrayed themselves, their country, and their God. They deserve what’s coming.

     1. This.

     2. Can’t say that I can find cause to disagree with that.

109. The only thing that’s happening here is that a lot of people are learning that their political ideologies are not as tenable as they previously though. And I’m not just speaking about the alt-right, either.
     This is just “baby’s first Night of the Long Knives”.

110. I see where you are going with this Roosh, but looking at the comments section below is just endless wall of text of arrogant frustrated boys fighting over matchstick thin idealism. Deeply unhappy with the way they “think” they have to live their lives. I honestly believe many men in the red pill/purple pill/alt right/PUA/ manosphere are seriously unhappy, not getting laid, and are defining their masculinity by someone else’s parameters. It’s no longer manosphere versus the world, it’s the various movements in the manosphere versus each other. If we don’t focus on a common enemy like feminists extremists, irresponsible lawmakers/politicians, and media outlets that tell us how to think we are going to destroy ourselves and not have a strong enough voice to speak for the next generation.

111. Heed his words.

112. It’s good for all Races to feel Pride, it’s wrong when a Race feels pride by putting down another Race , Multi-Race Society is good, Multi-culture Society is bad.

113. why bother with this ish roosh?

114. I do not have a problem with race mixing. Spontaneous exchanges between cultures etc. I just have a problem with elites trying to shove it down out throats. My wife is Japanese,I am very happy to have a bi-cultural family. Feel our family is richer culturally.
     But when everybody does that, it is not good. I prefer to visit a France where French culture is respected, a Japan where people are proud of their Japanese heritage.
     Problem is not the race mixing per se. It is when multi-culturalists attack racial identity.
     Some people may feel my own choices have weakened white culture. Maybe, and I do reget that a little as whilte population is dropping.
     However, there is a huge difference in an inter-racial couple where we value the traditions of both our countries and want to see them preserved.
     So even though we are bi-racial family, we both feel like we have more in common with nationalists than multi-culturalists.

     1. The notion of race is a surprisingly modern invention in the manner we mean it. Before the 18th century race wasn’t perceived through the prism of neo-Darwinism and Prussian Nationalism. Tribes interbred the whole time, and the idea of inferiority/superiority was largely absent under the barrier of the Roman idea of slave/freeman and this bore no relationship to a person’s intrinsic race or ethnicity. This idea carried on in Europe until the advent of the romantic/scientific age where race became the notion we know today.

        1. Two thousand years ago here in Italy it was actually the Romans who used to consider creatures from North of the Alps as being “animals on two legs”. We were the ones bringing back Germanic tribes in chains to build our infrastructure for us. Standards of living and technology weren’t even comparable between the Mediterreanean civilizations (Rome and Greece) and the Nordics.
           To be honest the Nordicists are so ignorant about basic history it’s almost funny.

           1. Was that before or after Italians mongrelized themselves?

     2. But at least your kids could move to Japan when the USA inevitably turns into a thirdworld hellhole. Japan is racially homogeneous and hasn’t bought into the lies.

115. I won’t support any movement or group with faggots leading it.
     Though I am white and proud of my ancestry. So fucking proud I’ll spit in your fuckin face and fight you if you have a problem with it.
     However this does not mean I blindly throw my support behind a man just because he is white.
     If you’re a cuckservative/ beta mangina or white knight, you are persona non grata as far as I am concerned.
     I don’t care for Islam and I know it’s not compatible with our civilization. TBS I have an Arab friend who is strong/ masculine and loyal as fuck.
     I’ll take him to have my back ANY DAY over some white fucking beta bitch pussy pedastalizer.
     I don’t care for the mobs of blacks that do violent shit and are not much better than rabid dogs when in groups. However I respect their violent tendencies and will to destroy MUCH MORE than some white faggot pussy that’s never physically fought for a goddamn thing his entire life.
     I’d much rather a white woman be the mother of my children but if all I see is disgusting white whores who voted for Obama and are pro baby murder then white or not they should ALL be thrown off a very high bridge.

116. Never looked at this manosphere stuff before. I have to say it’s snake oil salesman stuff. Exploiting all the worst tendencies in men. Very similar to get rich quick and Be a Winner bullshit scam artist stuff. Same buzzwords and invented terms. I wouldn’t buy a shoelace off this phony.

     1. I think game advocates over-sell it. You aren’t going to transform a beta into an alpha. But a beta can take things up a couple of notches and increase his social options.

        1. That is just gibberish. You must have swallowed his poison. That is what he is selling.

           1. What some game advocates want to suggest is that the 40 y/o virgin can become a rock star with a harem with the ladies. That damages credibility. But game is real. Your mileage may vary.

           2. Drop him. Come over here.Get your mind back from this charlatan. I’m not White Nationalist but they have more reasonable discussions.
              http://nwioqeqkdf.blogspot.co.uk/

           3. A British site. Interesting.

           4. He’s not selling anything. Almost all of Roosh’s/RoK’s articles are about self-improvement and/or introspection, with the underlying bedrock of the “game” philosophy being to do those two things consistently over time AND stop giving so much of a shit about women.
              I can vouch for the fact that doing so does lead directly to more success with women. No purchase required.
              It’s common-sense stuff, but because of the way that western society has evolved, the knowledge isn’t that common any longer.

           5. Rather, old boy!

           6. I will give it a pass, he is just jerking you all off.

           7. Nice design. I used to read the Salisbury Review. It’s not alt right, but, old school, traditional conservative magazine.

           8. It is very civilised.

           9. Nah, he’s just giving free advice that happened to work for me (and apparently a few other people).
              Good luck to you.

           10. Cheers.

           11. Despite the shit storm in the comments ROK is one of the better manosphere sites.

117. Why not just call it White Pride? There are many Races of people that are “Right”, alt Right doesn’t include those Races, the Name is Misleading.

118. That Shiksa Goddess is a character though. I’ve watched some of her stuff on YT. She makes some good points.

     1. We’re going to put “Shiksa Goddess” back in the kitchen where she can metamorphose into “Domestic Goddess”.

119. I am a Hungarian Nationalist.
     I am a White, Christian, European, Heterosexual Male.
     I see no conflict between my politics (far-right, or alt-right) and my attitude towards women (PUA/Red Pill).

120. Roosh, you have jumped to rash conclusions before posting this article. You are better than this and have let the twitter trolls win.
     First, it is clear that most White Nationalists are NOT against you or any other of the non-white/non-Christian heritage folks who are supporting it. Most White Nationalists are grateful that You and Cernovich are working hard for a better Western Civilization.
     Most of the twitter people who are attacking you simply don’t know their own history. For example, was Hitler a “cuck” for employing Sikh and East Asian units in the SS? How about for having Werner Goldberg, a Jew who fought with the Waffen-SS for being the poster boy of the Shutzstaffel? Any real WN knows these things, and these little kiddos are not the “bulk” or at the “head” of the movement as you suggest.Trust me, these folks are simply spiteful contrarians who are probably, honestly, cuckolds themselves.
     HOWEVER, and this is a big however – you ought not to make absurd claims and attack some of your biggest supporters as you have in this article. To say that the “medicine is worse than the disease” is absolute bogus. You are going to make the argument, after all this, that White Nationalism is worse that Marxism? I don’t think you actually would, but you have to be careful with your words here before you lose supporters. Another ridiculous claim is the old “pre-historic race mixing” nonsense. You would fit in perfectly with the cucked governments of the UK, France, and Germany! They make these same arguments.
     I’m sure you are somewhat upset with these trolls, but don’t attack people that support you.

     1. I really doubt “most” WNs are “grateful” to Roosh.

        1. Honestly, Roosh has done more for WNs than any of the shitposting trolls on twitter – you can’t deny that. This sight reaches millions per month and is staunchly anti-Liberal, anti-immigrant, and anti-feminist. He even employs a Swedish correspondent who consistently posts about solely Sweden.

           1. But is it pro-White?

        2. Actually any real WH would recognize Roosh (and any other Iranian for that matter) as being white. All those comments he showed are inflammatory troll material. In fact, many WN (including myself give “Arabs” (the ones from the Levant, not the ones from Arabia) the same status as Jews (Semitic) which means they don’t really have that many problems with them. I would say most Alt Right/WH probably have a bigger fear Islam than they do of them being “Arab”…

           1. Lol kebabs are not Europeans

           2. OY VEY!!!!!

           3. I never said they are European. I said they are Caucasian. Persians are related to Europeans much more so than Arabs. Why do you think they speak an Indo-European language?

           4. Personally I’ve been involved with right politics here in Italy for quite a few years first with Casapound and now with the Northern League. Never the fact that I’m an Arab Christian on my mother’s side was a question. Since my father is Italian, to the far right here in Italy I’m an Italian, especially since I’m fighting for the same goals.
              Focus should be on language, borders and cultures. Secure the integrity of the country and only allow those who make the effort to assimilate and fit. All the hostile alien tribes(Blacks,Muslims) should obviously be encouraged to leave as they completely incompatible. In the Muslims’ case they can redeem themselves by becoming apostates, and we have a few of them within the right wing set up over here

121. I bet there’s going to be an awesome thread about this over at My Posting Career. http://mpcdot.com/forums/
     If you want a good example of alt-right, go there and read some threads. Good suggestions:
     http://mpcdot.com/forums/topic/7218-a-compendium-of-shitlib-inanities/
     http://mpcdot.com/forums/topic/6651-the-institute-for-advanced-homophobia/
     http://mpcdot.com/forums/topic/7663-tales-of-conservatism/
     http://mpcdot.com/forums/topic/8017-the-red-pill/

122. I don’t fucking believe it. ROK banned me for no reason. I had to jump on a proxy just to post this.
     At no point have I said anything uncivil or improper according to any sane person’s metric of conduct. You can check my damn comments if you disagree. Fuck you guys. Alt-Right is correct. You faggots are the cucks. At least the alt-right spergs will disagree with you using a dialectic metric.
     You skirts just remove the offending voice. Just like the feminists you rail against.

     1. I was actually agreeing with you. Not sure why you were banned.

     2. Man, it’s just technical bullshit.
        You’re not the first one to get this. Many get this. I get this as well.
        It seems to be some technical crap.

     3. Fuck you, traitor.

123. Poor roosh, he doesn’t know what a troll is. He doesn’t realize that any real members of the alt-right would recognize Roosh as being white because he is Iranian…

124. Trump 2016

     1. Question: what makes you think a successful white cares about mediocre whites like yourself? His whole career he succeeded at the expense of people like you. As a rule, successful wealthy types don’t associate with the riff-raff. Wealthy whites chuckle at race pride types.

        1. Take a hike, Bernie lover

        2. That’s the irony in all of this (I do like the way Trump carries himself).
           They refer to men like Trump who are among the elite not realizing that unless you’re also one of them, they could care less.
           They pretend like class-ism doesn’t exist among whites.

125. Idiot Shitskin is shocked White Nationalists don’t like shitskins.

126. I think as line should be drawn between nationalism and racism.
     One example, a nationalist would be ok with non white legal immigrant, but the immigrant would have to learn the language of the host country and assimilate to the host culture. A racist would hate the immigrant even if he or she did that.

     1. That would only work if the host culture was strong enough to demand assimilation. As it is our culture panders to the differences.Multiculturalism is destructive of the host culture.It balkanises the culture. Fragments it and weakens it for the final death blow.

        1. I agree multiculturalism is encouraging people not to assimilate. Also I’ve noticed if the number of immigrants is small they assimilate more, like the Hispanics I’ve known in North Carolina. In Florida they come in much larger numbers and are much less assimilated.

           1. Yeah its impossible to assimilate such large numbers. Multicult is a crock.

127. Agreed, the alt right movement cannot be exclusively white. We cannot spread ourselves too thin or else we will lose it all. We need to consolidate around the important issues and put all of our efforts into winning.
     Additionally, men should be able to have sex with whoever they choose. The race of the women is only important regarding marriage/having children.
     I look down on any movement or group the condones or includes homosexuals in any way.

     1. Agree with point 1 and point 3, not point 2. Most WN, I believe, support this same position.

        1. Why do you not agree that men should be able to have sex with whichever race of women they want? It’s women we should control, not men

           1. Men should have control over themselves. It is disrespectful to have sex with another mans woman. Why do you feel the need to disrespect the men of a different civilization? It’s about honor here, no pussy is worth more than your honor.

           2. I don’t view having sex with a women outside your race as not having control over one self. I view it as trying a different flavor of ice cream. Don’t get me wrong, I am married to vanilla and vanilla will always be my favorite but I do enjoy a little variety from time to time.
              I disagree that having sex with a women outside your race is disrespectful to men of that race. Women ultimately make the final say as to if they will have sex with someone. If anything it is a poor reflection on the woman for being promiscuous. As men, we have to teach women to be demure and chaste.
              I disagree that having sex with a woman of a different race has any bearing on honor. If anything it is mere entertainment through life’s journey. If it were fishing, it’d be catch and release.

128. I’m all for White pride, I’m all for Persian Pride, or whatever Race Pride… It’s Clear to me that the Alt Right is a White Pride Group, and initially that’s fine, but when a Group starts designating what a Man can or cannot do based on his Skin color , is when things get Fucked up and that is wrong…You know, a lot of Alt Right ( Alt White) in the comment section is saying ROK readers are Pussy for not Going through with their meet up, but I say the Alt Right is Pussy, because they are afraid of labeling themselves what their movement is Really about…and that is White Supremacy, instead the “Alt Right” chooses a more Politically acceptable Name to cower under the Radar, “Alt Right”, because they don’t have the Balls to come out and Asseverate themselves “White Supremacists “,…For Political Reasons they are Afraid and don’t want to touch that word (White Supremacy). At least Roosh is Honest about his Convictions and Doesn’t Hide his Motives by using Alternative methods or Names to be accepted when Spreading his Message, Also, Roosh and ROK readers don’t want to Limit a Man’s Freedom Based on Skin Color. …that is some Seriously Fucked up Shit.

     1. “and that is White Supremacy” How so? They are completely fine with non whites having home rule…

        1. “I’m all for White pride, I’m all for Persian Pride, or whatever Race Pride… It’s Clear to me that the Alt Right is a White Pride Group, and initially that’s fine, but when a Group starts designating what a Man can or cannot do based on his Skin color , is when things get Fucked up and that is wrong…”

           1. Ok, I see what you are saying better. Well, those people are trolls. Plain and simple. Any real White Nationalist/White Pride person considers Persians white.

           2. In a Free Country a White Man can Feel pride without Fear of being Labeled Racist, Also , a Black Man can Feel Pride without Fear of subjugation, both Men can Live according to their Choices afforded to them in a Free society without fear their Skin color will effect their Standard of Life. Why are Good, God fearing Men, living in the Free world determining each others merit Based on skin Color?

           3. That is irrelevant to my statement. I simply said that Persians are white.

           4. I’m saying, does it Matter?

           5. Yes it does. It matters because Roosh is getting angry at “White Nationalists” and I am trying to express that they aren’t really White Nationalists.

           6. I mean, does it Matter Persians are white.

129. Ah.. but here’s the conundrum, Roosh was the outrage-outlet media’s ‘raping white devil’ only just a few weeks ago. He had to be, since acknowledging his middle-eastern heritage and Muslim upbringing would have gone against the free pass system. Those particular Alt-rights just got to accept that on the net anyone who goes against the prescribed status quo is considered ‘white’. Heck, I’ve even seen black bloggers who argue against the lies have their heritage called into question, even though their skin is blacker than boot polish…

130. As A Brietbart/Drudge Conservative all the women I fuck are Asian, Latina, and Muslim chicks so I guess I am out. I would ask an alt righter if you are willing to support me and my freedom of choice, property rights, and gun rights… cause if you want to hang with just white people I don’t care. But if you have a problem with me I have a problem with you.

     1. Where do you find muslim chicks that want to bang western males? Are you in france?

        1. Plenty here in Italy, especially Moroccan chicks they all seem to have a native boyfriend. Some of them are quite attractive.

     2. The last sentence is my philosophy too.

     3. In a Free Country Men determine their Own Destiny , Not Told Like Slaves which paths in Life they’re allowed to take. Any Race want’s to Feel Pride…Sure have at it, but telling Men what they can or Can’t do based on Race, it’s no Longer a Free Country, but Slavery.

        1. I agree

131. I was leaning towards the alt-right but your points have definitely steered me away from it. What I liked was the nationalism and anti-immigration. What I see now – disgusting and/or pathetic.

     1. Please…these are basement dwelling twitter trolls. They are nothing more than spiteful contrarians. These are neither the bulk nor the head of WN.

        1. I would sure hope so

132. I’d like to point out, I was pointing out the deliberate infiltration of the soft outer shell of the Alt-Right by 14/88 embaressments a while ago:
     http://citadelfoundations.blogspot.com/2016/01/have-you-failed-entry-exam.html
     They are loud, but they are also a shrinking and irrelevant minority, which is why they are acting out. The problem isn’t so much the idea that ‘sexual behavior of men should be controlled’, because the fact is that both Modern male and female sexual behavior has to be radically overhauled, submitting once more to transcendent principles and authorities rather than anarchic carnal wishes. The problem is that these 14/88s are essentially feminists. They do not believe that women are designed to be subjugated underneath the male principle, at both the individual and societal level. Their worship of the uniquely American notion of wide-spanning ‘whiteness’ has led them to think that white women are beyond criticism. They want society just as it is, minus ethnic minorities. It is laughably shallow, ignorant that we would still be heading for destruction even if they all left tomorrow.
     Sex realism without race realism, and race realism without sex realism: both stray from the path of truth in the name of convenience. For the Reactionary then, he rebukes in totality idiots who think egalitarianism works so long as everyone is ‘white’. Short-sighted fools, all of them.

     1. It’s certainly not women’s place to impose her own limitations on men.

        1. Absolutely. Women only have the power to set limitations on children. That is it, hence why women should never be in politics.

           1. You are one of the few Reactionaries that I respect and admire. Without getting into Michael Anissimov territory, what is your opinion on ectogenesis and the development of artificial wombs?

           2. I am glad I have your respect.
              I am against such technologies, as they upset the delicate balance of roles that men and women fulfill. For the same reason, I do not think sperm banks are a positive thing for society. I believe fundamentally in the importance of metaphysics, and I think there is inherent value in the male/female reproductive relationship beyond the mere material concern of spreading DNA.
              If the decades since the 1960s have taught us anything, it is that the sexual economy is incredibly fragile. It is easy to break. Just look at Japan. Making either sex obsolete by growing babies in test tubes is something very ominous in my view, and thankfully, I don’t think we will reach such a society where this becomes anything beyond the scientific curiosity it is today. I am a prophetic catastrophist, Anissimov is not. I do not believe the ‘singularity’ is attainable as transhumanists dream. Mad Max will be upon us before Gattaca ever will be.

           3. I have long expounded Traditionalist metaphysics in the Perennialist vein, I’ve even argued against Michael on Twitter before I left that hard AI and the singularity was unobtainable, feasibly forever as consciousness is something beyond the corporeal. I still believe this.
              Lately I’ve had some very dark thoughts about the removal and extermination of women through the development of artificial breeding procedures. This arose from the treatment of RooshV by the media and the Alt Right, mainly through Greg Johnson’s article and the amount of female manipulation that was involved.
              However I now agree that metaphysically the universe at this physical plane is dichomatic and both a male and a female are required for the correct raising and breeding of a healthy child. Thank you for clarifying this.
              So the question remains, what are we going to do to curb women’s dysgenic tendencies and move towards a real Patriarchy.

           4. Women cannot change anything, which is why the Reactosphere has spent no capital in recruting women (something 14/88s do, they worship women who sieg heil). Men lead all changes, in accordance with the titanic changes in cyclical patterns of civilization. We must acknowledge that this age will come to an end, just as the age of Classical Antiquity did, just as Medieval Christendom did, and the next shift will be the most tumultous of all. The question is not then if the contemporary condition ends, but instead who survives it.
              I believe, the growth of the radical right, those rejecting the sham of Conservatism, are the seeds of the Occidental rebirth. You need two things to bring women to their Traditional orientation:
              1) Conditions that force it, and I think these are inevitable and fast aproaching, especially if you look at certain European countries, but increasingly the USA as well.
              2) A new breed of men, those Evola termed the ‘aristocrats of the soul’ who will fulfill their own Traditional masculine role in all areas. This is the one we get a say in. If we want true femininity back, we need true masculinity back. It is why I have admired Roosh’s move away from PUA towards NeoMasculinity. I think he recognizes this as well.
              We need to fix ourselves before we can expect women to ever fall into line. Just as the degeneration of men through the ‘Enlightenment’ would inevitably lead to the degeneration of women through ‘Suffrage’, so to must we be the leaders in the opposite direction, back towards the transcendent and away from the corporeal and individualist.

           5. Agreed. I needed to hear this.

           6. Sam Hyde thought experiment on the purging of women from the world:
              

     2. Uh…what? ‘… led them to think that white women are beyond criticism’ You just made that up. Nice strawman Mark.

133. Equality is a Lie
     Men and Women arent Equal
     The Races arent Equal
     Roosh ignores one, the Alt right ignores the other.
     Without both you still live a blind life.

     1. Yeah this is exactly right. Nationalism without natalist policy and traditional gender roles will fail, natalist policy and traditional gender rolls without racial aspects is missing a critical aspect of the culture element and thus will fail.

     2. Shut off your computer and go outside and hunt or fish.

        1. In a little while

           1. Good..

     3. Alt right does not ignore the other – you are being disingenuous.

     4. I do agree with the fact that the races are not equal. Jews consistently demonstrate higher IQ than Aryans. So I trust Aryans should work in the field or be deported.

        1. Simmer down moshe. We built a nice state for you. Time to go home.

134. This is why joining things is retarded.

135. This oriental rapist doesn’t speak for anyone in the alt right but himself.

136. Subversion? The alt-right is a broad term but most that come under the term have always been pro-authoritarian and about controlling the sexual behaviour of both men and women.

137. The white nationalist movement means whites only, not a sandbagger pretending to be white so he can screw our woman.

     1. Roosh is Aryan.

        1. He’s half Iranian and half Turk, I’m sure your Stormfront buddies wouldn’t consider him white.
           Also you are aware that Iranians used to be Aryan centuries if not millenia ago? Even the Hindu civilization was kickstarted by Aryans and look at the state they’re in now.
           By the way nothing against Roosh, I’ma huge fan, and since I’m half Italian on my dad’s side and half Palestinian(Christian) on my mother’s side I consider him a brother.

138. Very skeptical of Roosh now. This article convinced me he doesn’t have our best interests at heart.

     1. You need to be open to different opinions and look at how open and accepting of other opinions people are… I am sorry but I am not a white supremacist or religious and am willing to meet and talk with people who accept me and what I believe as a person and this website has always done that.

     2. One can only conclude that you’ve reached that out of picking sides.
        With disagreement between Roosh and the alt right, and what looks to be an irreconcilable difference, you’re electing to weigh up each side and allocate a preference.
        If you don’t regard whiteness as a virtue by itself, then what does the alt right do that “has your best interest at heart”?

        1. Good and bad in both sides. Roosh teaches men how to be men. However, some of his principles closely resemble Sharia Law. While I agree with traditional roles, extreme principles often harm more than they help. The Alt Right teaches whites to be proud of their history. They have a way of getting things done. On the other hand, they often get stuck in infighting.
           Pramatically speaking, infighting can be resolved. But can a Muslim be expected to keep my kind safe in the first place? Unlikely.

           1. What I saw from alt-righters in this comment thread today wasn’t “teaching whites to be proud of their history.”
              It was “fuck the joooz” and fuck you if you disagree with our unsupported schoolyard logic.

139. I wonder who Roosh resents/hates more, whites or women.

     1. Feminists, especially the third wave types.

        1. So I guess women, but especially white women.

           1. No, just feminists.

     2. I think Roosh both loves and hates women, at the same time. I don’t think he can be counted on to help whites, though. Answer: whites.

        1. Yeah, wow, it must suck to hold such dissonance between thinking women are inferior yet despising them for having such an allure.
           I think if it comes down to the wire, people will support the far right before they support Roosh though, because the last thing white men want to see is non-white men with their white women. Roosh never acknowledges that, and I think it’s the biggest obstacle in his way when it comes to gaining followers. I mean sure they’ll use his techniques, but they’ll never support him (white men). Until that’s acknowledged I think they’ll keep pairing up with SJWs and Liberals until the dreaded end game outlined in this is actually realised.

           1. Women are inferior at everything except for reproduction.

           2. Yeah, yeah, we’ve all heard that one before. At least try and be original.

           3. Eternal truths are not original.

           4. Repeating them is just boring, at least try make your reply relevant. It’s pretty obvious that if you’re even in this comment section you’re likely a misogynist anyway, so who cares, you’re probably preaching to the converted.

           5. Yes, I am a misogynist and judging by your picture, you’re a female manipulator and race baiter. Let’s end the conversation here.

           6. Eva, it isn’t that you are inferior, but that you were designed for subjugation. This isn’t malicious or exploitative, indeed without the male principle for you to wrap your identity around in marriage, you cannot achieve true womanhood. Advocates of Patriarchy want what is best for both men and women.

           7. What’s your bra size?

     3. Out of curiosity, what makes you think he hates either?

140. Damn Roosh, getting more thread action than most zerohedge articles, well done!

141. An ordered society must have rules over sex. Roosh complains that girls can follow their impulses with no restrictions, hence become obese, arrogant, and have sex all too easily with very good lads while the average man has to work hard for very few results. But if we accept that sexuality must be regulated, it implies that both men and women have their sexual lives regulated.
     Taking up the PUA path is adapted to the society we live in, but it is merely an individual adaptation, not an ideal to strive for.
     We want an ordered cosmos where the people of Aryan descent can live in dignity, which implies no feminism, no festivism, no sexual anarchy, but able individuals mastering their own impulses and traditional families.

142. If you don’t want your country to turn into a clone of shitty failed countries like Venezuela, Mexico, or Brazil, you have to prohibit race-mixing and not allow non-whites in. Roosh is obviously echoing SJW talking points about how wonderful “sexual freedom” i.e. degenerate shit like racemixing and porn because like all kebabs he wants western countries to be destroyed. Also, Roosh specifically hates white women because even when he goes to impoverished eastern European countries he gets rejected by the local Slavic peasant women and has to spend the weekend masturbating in his hotel room.
     I forgot to add that Iran has an average IQ in the mid-80s, so allowing them into the west is extremely dysgenic.

     1. maybe but i just can’t get it up for white women anymore, too fat. so race mixing it is!

     2. I’ve never gotten the impression Roosh was racist.
        While I’m on the subject of racism, what do mean by “kebab”, exactly?
        You’re proving the point of the article.

     3. How about First World, Nobel prize-winning, technologically advanced Asians like the Japanese?

     4. Love your post. For everyone saying AltRight is some high-minded visionary movement, the average AR is more like you. Asians on average make more than you and on PPP terms, China will eclipse America soon. Your argument makes no sense; but I wouldn’t expect more.

        1. Jews aren’t special. They cluster with Italians. They just breed for intelligence, unlike most other ethnic groups.

143. Does this post represent the general quality here? It was illogical, uninformed drivel.

144. Roosh is basically like a feminist: muh sexual freedum!

145. One must also point out that in a patriarchal society, like the one some manospherians claim to desire, pick up artists would find slim pickings indeed.
     Sexual freedom and patriarchy don’t really go together.

     1. How do you know they would find slim pickings?

        1. Well, a big emphasis would be put on women keeping themselves unavailable until marriage. PUAs aren’t as into that.

           1. So, PUA’s don’t marry?

           2. PUA is simply a reaction, not a goal. In a healthy society it wouldn’t be necessary.

           3. Well, they can, but then they would have to give up being PUAs, considering a PUA is supposed to pick up a lot of women for sex, which isn’t really desirable when you’re married.

           4. I agree entirely! I didn’t come up with this, but PUAs work with what they have, MRAs try to change the game, and MGTOWs refuse to play. I don’t really fall into any particular group, though; I’m just a general manospherer.

           5. I am too. I probably need to leave the house more and practice a bit of day game to try meet women or else I’m going to stay single forever.

           6. Sure, if they are married, they would not be PUA’s.
              Right. Did you think PUA was a goal to reach for and keep forever?

           7. Same. I do want to engage in the act at some point, perhaps when I go to college (this year).
              I have wanted to get married and start a family on some land, but I’m not sure if it’s worth it anymore.

           8. It’s not PUA if you’re seducing a girl you’re going to marry. It’s just game.
              PUA is a reaction to our sexually LIBERATED culture with hordes of loose, feminist women and undesirable conditions for marriage.
              In a traditional culture there is little or no PUA and women are sexually restrained. Chastity is valued because men don’t want to marry 35 year olds who have ridden the cock carousel. If you try PUA in some of these societies, you might end up buried in a shallow grave.
              Basically, Alt-Right trolls seem to have gotten Roosh butthurt and made him forget that he was moving away from PUA (unrestricted sexual freedom) towards traditionalism (which involves restrictions on sexual behavior).

           9. Well, my point was that in a traditional patriarchal society, the type of women a man seeks for a long term relationship is widely available, but the kind of woman a PUA would seek (loose) is much more scarce. However, I suppose PUAs are simply a reaction to scarcity of marriageable women.

           10. Notice altrighters offer few if any real solutions. They will say “find a good woman and marry her”. They might as well say find a unicorn to a clueless male with no idea of how social dynamics work.

           11. Ask altrighters if they’ll give you their sister or daughter in marriage as a realistic solution to game. Notice the awkward silence as they realize they’re not even in control of their own women.

           12. So, PUA’s are seeking loose women?

           13. As far as I am aware, PUA is a way to learn how to appeal to and socialize with women beyond the scraps dealt to us by society.
               What you do with it is up to you. It’s simply a tool, not a solution or a goal.

           14. You seem to get that, but
               Anomalocaris of the North doesn’t, and seems to be making up what he thinks PUA’s do.

           15. Those are the kind of women that go for PUAs (lots of sex upon meeting). Isn’t that the goal of a PUA in this society?

           16. No, not really refer:
               “As far as I am aware, PUA is a way to learn how to appeal to and socialize with women beyond the scraps dealt to us by society.
               What you do with it is up to you. It’s simply a tool, not a solution or a goal.”

           17. Ah, so it’s a skill/ set of skills to extract the maximum out of women in modern society. That’s actually very useful.

           18. Yes, it’s designed to basically give you sexual options, being the chooser not the chosen. You don’t have to use it to pick up lots of sluts for sex. You can use it to just talk to girls in your college classes even.

           19. Unfortunately, skills like that used to be wide known and just an obvious thing for men in general throughout the ages, yet it disappeared in a generation, all because of brainwashing of how “bad” men who hook up with women are, and how they need to be “educated”. Now we have to learn it all over again.

           20. Yep, you’re lucky really you still seem pretty young. I just turned 30 and my dating life when it existed was a nightmare. I have to basically start from the bottom at my age.

           21. I’m 17 and in 12th grade. Nobody in my life knows I look this kind of stuff up though, as it would surely lead to drama.

           22. Hehe, dating is kind of like crawling through the 9 circles of hell for the average man. There’s no other way really, it’s just something that you have to force yourself to do.

           23. All I recommend is don’t buy girls stuff or do things for girls that you don’t want to do. Keep away from online dating or chat sites, try speaking with as many different girls as you can in real life.

           24. Yeah, and I already have socialization problems (Asperger’s), yet I can get along very well if I feel it’s worth it. However, I always worry that I’ll say the wrong thing (I sometimes do) and get in serious trouble with a ruined reputation.

           25. I’ll tell you an oldies secret. High school and university have little impact really on your future outside of your majors and grades. Just focus on those, choose a career wisely that will be in demand.
               The people you know now will probably have little effect on your future reputation or career. Even your friends.
               Also men who are mature and successful generally do what they want without regard for what others think of them. Even if they stand alone. Everyone will make mistakes in life, it’s how we learn and gain experience.

           26. Of course! I don’t want to turn her into a parasite. And online dating is a mess; I’ve known a few stories of some guy meeting someone he met on an online chat site for the very first time and finding she’s NOTHING like she was on her profile, and presumably vice-versa.

           27. Well, I’m into STEM, so I’m going to college and studying environmental technology, perhaps specializing in water treatment afterwards. I suppose it’s sort of a trade, and I know it’s in demand (especially in northern communities here in Canada), so I believe I’ll have good chances with it. It includes many sciences (biology, chemistry, etc.), so I may specialize further down the road into another career, but I have to take things one step at a time.
               See, a lot of stuff I can learn without college, but of course they still make sure you have those college years for you to be given a chance.
               I don’t really have many close friends, anyways; I have in the past, but I’ve moved a lot and not many share my exact interests.
               You’re last paragraph is spot on, although I will try and please my parents to some extent, as they’re big on family values (Italian step dad).

           28. Some guys are lucky and find a decent woman early in life. I wasn’t. But if you do, go for it and talk to her.
               I will say though, you’re better off hanging out by yourself than with losers you don’t really enjoy the company of. Anyway, gtg but good conversation.

           29. Thanks. I know plenty of girls I like, but a few are a few grades younger than me, and I don’t want to look like a creep, either. :/
               But likewise, good conversation. Have a good one.

146. Sounds like someone needs a helicopter ride

147. Remind what Ramzpaul wrote here on RoK two months ago:
     There is a “long history of ADL and SPLC shills and government informers in such
     groups. As President Obama has declared the “Radical Right” to be the
     REAL terrorist threat, you can bet many people are paid to play the
     neo-Nazi role both on-line and in real life.
     I have personally received more threats from the “neo-Nazi” crowd
     than from anyone on the left. After doing some investigation I
     discovered that many of these characters previously had zero interest in
     politics or were actually “anti-racist.” But prison time (and the
     promise of an early release) can “flip” such people to play a desired
     role with the associated funding.”
     Here we are. Most of the “NS crowd” insulting Roosh on Twitter was likely composed of agents provocateurs paid by the government/ADL/SPLC. They did everything they could to divide us, for dividing us also weakens us by turning our attention into fighting each other instead of focusing on the enemy, and they succeeded. Congratulations Roosh. Why couldn’t you separate the wheat from the chaff?

     1. I was going to comment to that effect, and you are spot on. A lot of this stuff is textbook Agent shilling.

        1. Adam, you have to take a DNA test prove you are a jew in Israel. Why do you find the white goals of the alt right to be so troubling?

           1. Nationalism is merely a functioning autoimmune system on the state level. I advocate it for all countries. It’s not my fault if Americans prefer slavery and politically correct cowardice.

           2. No, if you’ve converted in the past it has to be through a conservative denomination and not a liberal one. Gene? What gene? Lol

     2. This.

     3. is Greg Johnson an “agent provocateur paid by the government”?

        1. To be honest fam, Greg Johnson has weird tendencies, he attacked Andrew Anglin for being a troglodyte populist (while his website has probably ten times the viewrship of Johnson)
           http://www.dailystormer.com/fortress-defense-saga-greg-johnson-joins-the-assault-on-our-base/

148. Roosh I have to say spot on. I’ve been getting disillusioned with the red pill manosphere thing, including sometimes this very website, and I quit reading for the most part, but I always follow your writings because they aren’t the same old shit or hype.
     I have to say I’m a fan of the pua paradigm of all of this from back in the day; “society is over, people chose their path, tradition is dead, but that’s fine with me because it makes my easier, I no longer have to wife up a chick to get laid and can enjoy the bachelor life without forgoing the forbidden fruit”
     It seems today the the mantra in parts like these is “society is fucked, and that sucks, what can we do to save it, move back to traditional values, I wannawannawanna girlfriend so bad”. That’s where I think problems like this racist ” alt right” bullshit stem from. A bunch of guys that want things to be like “the good ol days”, where they fancy they could pull a 10 and sit on the couch and get fat. I am not a conservative. I do not want traditional values. Why would I? I would have to settle down and stuff one pig for all my days evermore. I just want to do whatever I want with little government interference and fuck society, who cares about fat women, or divorce rates, or gays, or any of that. I don’t pretend to want a higher purpose.
     And this fucked up, slut filled, trashy excuse for a society gives me that. The only real qualms I have with it are when the government gets involved and effects me at all. And that used to be the mantra, but it changed to ” let’s get back to traditional values” and can you really be surprised when a bunch of racists take that mantra and turn it into this all out lunacy they call the alt right?

     1. Wow. Just wow. I can’t even…

     2. The first line of paragraph 3 sums up many of the posts and posters here quite nicely.

149. I thought this site had finally made a decision on the fork it was going to take, with the choices being a “Where da White wimminz be at?” for minority betas who pine for White girls, or a more serious blog that attempts to tackle the biggest questions of our time. After reading some of the really great recent essays, I assumed the choice had been made to be a serious philosophical and political site.
     I am extremely disappointed to see this post. It is very confusing trying to determine who’s side Roosh is really on. Let it be a reminder why the White Nationalist movement cannot sit back and rely on homosexuals and non-whites to do all the heavy lifting. Eventually they always seem to end up stabbing White Men in the back. Roosh has made it very clear that he has no interest in the future of Whites, so why not take him at his word?
     For the record I was always willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. I saw him as a smart man who is doing a lot to advance pro-White causes, even if inadvertently. And his race was a non-issue because I view Iranians as Aryans, and because hell any man who does the work Roosh does, is the kind of man we want on our side even if he’s purple. I had no problem with him at all, and saw the alt-righters who attacked him as trolls. I am about as alt right as you can get.
     Now, I feel like everyone is going to be forced to choose sides and draw unnecessary divisions, and this is exactly the news our enemies will love to hear. Especially coming on the heels of the spectacular victory they had in making Roosh call off the meetups.

     1. For somebody of your caliber to be disappointed in anything thing Rooshy boy does means that he is doing something right.
        Ever stop and think that this was a tactical retreat in order to get a good glimpse of your their Hands? And positions? You can bet that lines are being drawn and that people are going to be forced (non-rape-edly) and divisions built.

        1. If it was tactical, I think it was a strategic error. It’s not the right time to draw lines in the sand. We need to grow larger and stronger first. But if he wants it this way that is his call. I guarantee you this: you are going to see some very high quality competing blogs springing up to fill the gap that RoK is leaving. Roosh probably thinks he’s going to gain market share through this stunt, but it could end up backfiring.

           1. You have no fucking right to say what “We” should do or not do. You have been a regular poster for no more than a week here and all of a sudden it’s “We”? Shut your fucking trap and GTFO taking your baseless opinions with you.

           2. That’s pretty hostile holmes.
              I’ve been commenting under this moniker for several weeks, but I’ve been a manosphere regular for more than 6 years. What about yourself? I was commenting back in the In Mala Fide days, G.

           3. Maybe I should tone it down.
              I am an initiate of none. But I could say the same thing about myself as you do now, really. None to be proud or ashamed of.
              But I’ll stake none of the regulars here who are respected through their hold of any imagined weight in their writing can agree that they would want to see YOU use the word “We” in any shape of the form when used in accordance to this community. After all, this is just a community of words, is it not? That meet-a-palooza didn’t go down if I remember correctly.

151. Fuck you Roosh you POS Camel Jockey! So you are a pick-up artist who lives in his Mommy’s basement? LOL @ YOU! You are NOT part of the #AltRight piss off!

     1. “Living in his Mommy’s basement”? It not the fact that this claim is untrue, it’s that fact that you sound like a writer for National Review.

        1. STFU

           1. C’mon man. You are using a disingenuous claim. What will you do for your next trick? Tell us that Trump is no true conservative and that we lost out when Jeb dropped out?

           2. Al hit home. You have such good reasoning……….please elaborate.
              GFY

     2. Yup, you’re part of the problem and will accomplish nothing.

     3. STFU agent provocateur. You are not needed here.

152. I basically made these same points that ultra white purist nationalist are part of the problem. The new patriarchy should not allow infiltration or co-option by stupid dead-enders. Result: Roosh banned me from his site. That’s fucked up.

     1. Don’t you think these Ultra Purists are a bit of a straw man like that? Why give such power to such minority voices? Most alt-right people and even White Nationalists, have no ill will toward other races they just don’t want to be forced to subsidize them. I have never heard of anyone seriously demanding genetic tests. You can find extremist wackos to mock under any banner.

        1. Could be, I don’t follow alt-right that much. I do see a lot of stormfags and Jew-haters posting in these forums, and I don’t want to encourage their influence. That’s a losing recipe. I don’t want to pay tax money to subsidize rapefugees either.

           1. I try not to label people like that; if an idea has validity, I’ll consider it, period.

153. “especially since race is not even close to being a defining factor for men looking for a suitable partner.”
     amen. fair-skinned, blue eyed guy of 99% northern european decent here, and i’m very happy with my brown-skinned latina wife, thick accent and all.
     none of the white supremacists have ever been able to explain to me how italians and greeks are white, but persians aren’t. that’s never made sense to me.

     1. Alt right seems to think all Europeans are white (except for Jews, who aren’t even all European) and everyone else is “other.”

     2. One thing I never understood about these white nationalists that harped on about you could only be an American if you’re white. If we go back to the very beginning, the founders and original citizens of America would be WASPS. That would technically mean my father, who is 100% white and whose family has been here for four generations (counting my sister and myself) is NOT an American, since he is of Eastern European (Polish) Catholic descent.

        1. it’s true, hardcore racism gets very confusing when you try to reason it out like that.

     3. Slender Asian honeys too, don’t forget! Who wants a fat bleached land whale?

        1. definitely. that’s the thing about the WN types. their memes always have pictures of, like, ukrainian models in traditional dress, and i concur that there’s little more beautiful in god’s creation than a slavic girl in her prime. however, to be fair you’d have to balance the slender, beutiful EE girls with some walmart landwhales. i’d take a slim, feminine girl of any skin tone over that.

           1. Always the anecdotes with you, so here’s one of mine: I used to work with two mexican women, one was a large, ugly, pockmarked mess, and the other a short, mousey
              looking one at the same job. 9/10 of the white women I worked with there were beautiful, slim, and feminine and the tenth one I didn’t include because she was tatted to hell. Mexican women as a demographic in the United States and in their own country have far higher instances of obesity than white women.

           2. i think the phrase you’re looking for is “somewhat higher.” it would be impossible to have far higher instances of obesity than white american women, because their hearts would just stop functioning en masse, and they literally couldn’t muster the strength to haul their bloated corpses out of bed, up stairs, etc. i will concede that mexican women on average are not attractive. they are to the high-end latinas (from colombia, venezuela, brazil, argentina, etc.) what anglo-saxon white women are to slavic women.

     4. They’re completely delusional, as this thread made clear before the mods took out the trash. Tbh I wish the comments had been left up. Sure it was vile, ignorant shit, but the fact that there are people out there who actually think that way has to be seen to be believed.

     5. Italians are absolutely white.
        European? Check.
        Capital of Christianity, a central tenet of white culture? Check.

        1. but those blond, blue-eyed bosian muslims are still white, aren’t they? or maybe they’re not, but if they convert to christianity they become white. of course, most devout christians aren’t white, but still. white supremacy gets confusing sometimes.

           1. Bosnians are White, your religion doesn’t have anything to do with being White. This stuff is actually very simple, you shouldn’t be confused by it.

     6. Yeah but your kids are going to be half-beaners, so it’s really pointless to go on about how you are 99% white, since your kids won’t be.

        1. ah, but some of her close relatives are very white. a few blue eyes in there, even. so maybe they will be white. i’ve seen latina-white guy marriages where one kid is dark skinned, the other fair. mind blown, huh?

           1. lol I love your rationalization. You are hamstering.

           2. i don’t care if my kids are white or not, especially not by your insane, illogical definition of whiteness (again, why are italians white whereas persians aren’t?). got a friend who’s married to a dark-skinned mexican girl who is prettier than 98% percent of white american women. his kids are beautiful and smart. his nine-year-old daughter read LOTR and enjoyed it. i’ve met lots of adult americans who don’t like tolkien because he “uses big words.” i’m not an SJW so i’m not going to say race doesn’t matter at all, it just matters vastly less than you and your ilk say it does.

           3. Your kids will care. The future is going to be tribal. Make sure your kids learn good Spanish.

           4. You don’t seem to understand the degree to which white identity and all forms of white created ideology and philosophy is being assailed. Similar to what Crud Bonemeal stated, your children will abandon their father’s lineage, ideology, and any other identity characteristics in favor of a more tribal, non-white status. Your children will more than likely hate their father’s white-ness rather than love their multi-racial values, essentially.
              But after reading the misguided multi-racial altruism you posts, I can’t say I would blame them for that.

           5. i’m proud of my european heritage, it’s just that it’s not my main source of pride. that would be my intellectual and physical accomplishments. serious question, do you have many accomplishments that you’re proud of, outside having been born white? i do, and as another commenter posited, i think lack of personal accomplishments may explain extreme white nationalism, or any kind of extreme racism. i just haven’t seen the “hating their father’s whiteness” in mixed race marriage that keeps you and the other white supremacists up at night, but it may be because i associate with people (of various races) who have done a lot with their lives and don’t need to lean on racial pride to feel good about themselves.

     7. Vast majority of white separatists don’t actually consider us Italians nor the Greeks and Spaniards since we would fail their DNA tests garbage. Doesn’t matter that we are culturally European, doesn’t matter that we are actually doing more to protect our borders than their ideal Germanic/Scandinavian friends. Hell it wasn’t even until long ago that there was still a debate on how Slavs should be considered and they’re the most ethnically homogeneous counties.

        1. i know the nazis considered the slavs untermenschen, but i didn’t know there was a debate about their “whiteness” among modern white supremacists. as you state, the slavic countries are pretty much the whitest on the planet. excellent point about the only-recently-white mediterraneans doing more to protect european culture than the germanic northern europeans. hadn’t really thought about that.

           1. Part of that is because Slavs have a better memory. Many of their ancestors were stolen by the Ottomans, brainwashed, and used as warriors against their own people. The women were stolen and used as sex slaves; many of them tattooed themselves with crosses because the muslims wouldn’t take them if they were marked in such a way.

           2. it’s ludicrous that most people regard slavery exclusviely as something evil white europeans did to black africans, and that’s the full story. think of the horror many of our ancestors went through when they were captured by turks, saracens, barbary pirates, etc.
              hadn’t heard that a cross tattoo worked as a get-out-of-slavery free card. where did you hear that? i bet it didn’t work against gang rape and being tortured to death.

           3. You can find some of the pictures online. Can’t remember where I read it, though.

        2. The arguments about who’s the Whitest are retarded. Sure, there are some Greeks or whatever who aren’t White, but most are. People can integrate into the White race, but it takes longer, because our genes are recessive. That’s why massive numbers of nonWhites is an existential threat. A small number, 5-10% isn’t much of a threat.

154. Has this thread calmed down from several hours ago? It was all antisemitic, racist alt-right types screaming about “white pride” and “ZOGs” and other conspiratorial nonsense.

     1. Yea you can go back to less important things now

        1. I work from my PC and left this tab open, there was some really nasty stuff on here.

           1. I don’t really mind the “really nasty stuff” it’s just the general lack of IQ points that gets to me. If they actually had a coherent and logical argument and could argue it well using dialectical reasoning, the “really nasty stuff” wouldn’t be so bad.

           2. Instead we get “dank memes” and 4chan humor.

           3. Fair point, but if that genuinely racist shit is representative of the alt-right, that movement is doomed.

           4. It is.

           5. You two know each other from Temple?

           6. Oh haha.

           7. Oh vey!

           8. It’s only been growing, sorry to disappoint.

     2. It’s like another shoah!
        Don’t worry, I’ve meticulously logged all objectionable comments and forwarded them to the SPLC and ADL.

        1. You just further add to that crap that is all too indicative of the alt-right.

155. Congratulations for this article Roosh. Spot on.

156. FWIW Roosh, my father long ago gave me a sage piece of advice I think applies here:
     Avoid fanatics of any stripe.
     ‘Nuff said.

157. I enjoy my silence as often as I can. I learn a great deal from many of the writers here, and a few of those who post in the comments section. This is a place where men can speak and think with significant freedom, and will continue to be such as long as the administrators keep forging ahead. Hopefully, this is more about growth pangs rather than an ideological shakedown to be among the coolest kids in class. I suppose that time will tell, and until then, I will read and think and comment like I would if I were in a room full of people whom I sense kinship with during great societal change. Keep on doing what you know to do Roosh, and let the chips fall where they may.

158. The alt-right isn’t a monolithic movement, Roosh, so don’t throw out the baby with the bathwater. Unfortunately, white nationalism in the US has a lot of hopeless romantic/desperate orbiter types within it that should go empty out their gas tank before getting into politics. These guys think they’re all going to become the boyfriends of the 1 or 2 women very vocal, aggressive, and often feminist women in the movement, and so act like their carpets.
     In the end, truth is truth. it’s a shame that a couple of obnoxious cunts (who are all fighting amongst themselves at the moment) and drama loving queers are going to create such a rift in the revolution, but hey, what can you do.
     Ironically, Hitler himself considered both Armenians and Iranians to be Aryans, although obviously did not want massive numbers of either migrating into Europe. Race is important and the crux of history, but if you won’t make select exceptions or want to police someone else’s dick (while making excuses for women opening up their legs), you’re just bound for political banality like all those different Trotskyite sects constantly ripping one another.

159. I’d like to see how the white supremacists plan to stop their white women from seeking the big black snake.

     1. They can’t. They get AMOG’d by a black guy at some social event, the AltRighter slinks to the back and watches the hook-up go down and them walk off together. He stews in the corner thinking up insults (“you thick-lipped nig”), he stands alone , thinking up a 500 word essay on the subject. After he posts it on some NRX site like MPC, copying and pasting IQ studies from Wikipedia, he retreats to his bathroom and beats off to interracial porn. This is the psychological profile of your average AltRight and WN. Their cause is futile. Interracial sex and marriage are going up, not down. It’s happening to everyone, including Jews. Whether they like it or not, hundreds of thousands of “muds” are banging white girls tonight alone. They are in their room, tweeting and commenting.

        1. lol so true about the “interracial porn”. I bet those dudes love the “White on asian” or “black on asian/latina” porn the most.

           1. They prefer the BBC on a blond woman. That’s where all that traffic comes from; and why it’s one of the most popular genres. It’s a known phenomenon.

        2. I’m curious as to what race you are?

160. There is something really degenerate about the whole manosphere mentality. I think that if you need to talk about “masculinity,” if you make it a self-conscious thing, you’ve already lost it. The biggest thing missing from Westernized men is the brotherhood factor, the bonds of comrades forged in combat or in a political struggle. The sooner nationalists organize into disciplined bands, get off the internet and get out their in the streets organizing their communities, the quicker we can get away from these decadent self-help cults and start taking back our neighborhoods. Fighting the common struggle for our tribe (against the “other”) is what forged our race and culture in the first place, and incidentally our sense of what it is to be a man. Look at the ancient Indian tribes in this country, it was no different. Courage in the hunt and in battle is what counted. We need to get back to the basics in a very tribal sense if our people are going to survive. Yes Roosh, that means reestablishing traditional gender roles and race relations, meaning promiscuity goes back to being looked down on, and miscegenation goes back to being against the law. Nothing personal. Go find yourself a nice Persian girl and make some beautiful children. As white nationalists, naturally we’re going to view a non-white man who brags about sleeping with dozens of our racial sisters as being rather objectionable, and moreover in any healthy society any man who has made pick-up artistry into a science is going to be viewed as a rotten element to be expelled.

     1. The only people who keep talking about racial kinship are the life losers who couldn’t cut it on their own. For those who are independently successful, we don’t look backwards or depend on others as a crutch. If you can’t find a job in America, can’t get ahead and make a 6 figure salary, can’t get a GF cause some black guy is dating her — by all means, join a WN group and fight for racial pride. Getting laid, pickup, Roosh’s forum is not the cause of our social downfall.

        1. It’s so true. Being a mix myself (half white, half minority), and being taught right by my dad, and then forging all that thought with the manosphere, I took control of my life, and race didn’t have a goddamn thing to do with it.

           1. It’s interesting how the more we read here, the more we see that all those avid readers of this site who have such a problem with White Nationalism are actually halfbreeds, blacks, jews, etc and they just won’t come clean about that fact until it slips out somewhere. Why don’t we just admit that we are ALL fighting for our own racial interests, and with you it is NO different than what WNs are doing. You want access to White women, period, and you lash out against anything that stands in the way of that. That is what this is all about. Of course you want to advocate the view that race doesn’t matter, because that view benefits half breeds like yourself.

           2. It’s pretty much axiomatic. Those who didn’t let anything stop them don’t go BACKWARDS and hobknob with “victims” living mediocre lives.

           3. Yeah I noticed that too. Take the good with the bad guess. Roosh was helping us before this stupid article.

           4. I’ve tried to point that out to many people. That’s why America is absolutely doomed. It’s a bunch of competing groups with no common vision, strategy, history, or identity.
              When America comes down, it’s going to be ugly.

161. One of the issues that I wonder about is separating culture from race. Just like all whites are not skin-heads, all blacks are not blacklivesmatter thugs, nor are all Arabs terrorists.

     1. This is absolutely right!!! The culture is what matters. Would we exclude a guy like Dinesh D’Souza, just because he’s a brown guy? Yet the guy oozes conservative values. I’d take him as an ally wayyyy before some supremacist freak.

        1. “I’d like to see how the white supremacists plan to stop their white women from seeking the big black snake.”
           That’s what you said in another comment. I wouldn’t have a scumbag who would say shit like that anywhere near me. You are a perfect example of why non-Whites cannot be trusted. Here you are shucking and jiving about Dinesh D’Souza. Laughable.
           Where da White wimminz be at?

           1. I’m not saying it to mock, and I am half white, but I know that still excludes me from your little group. The comment was to point out, that the white supremacist movement will have zero control over their white women. If a white woman gets the tingle for a black anaconda, what are you going to do to stop it? Are you going to blame the black guy? She’s the one that’s getting horny for him, he’s just taking advantage of that, like any guy would.
              Not sure about the women claiming to be in the movement. Can a white woman who claims she will not fuck a non-white resist if a non-white charms his way into her snatch?

           2. For you to even say those things reveals that you have missed the point about…pretty much every thing this site has tried to teach you, except ‘where da white wimminz be at’.
              Read and learn for another decade and maybe you’ll be worth my time.

           3. *sigh* and what’s the point of this site? I have learned that attraction is mostly a combination of looking good, and having venusian skills (usually called “game”), which usually is just about being cool and interesting to a woman. I personally don’t care about a woman’s ethnicity (I have been with white and asian women, mostly because those are the ones usually most attracted to me). So I don’t know, did I get the lesson wrong?

           4. I guess you’re not doing bad, if it’s your first day here. But then, the things you mentioned can be more easily found on Men’s Health and GQ.

     2. One of the issues that I wonder about is separating culture from race.
        You can’t separate them, no matter how hard you cuck for the non-whites.

        1. Shhhh. Don’t be rude.

           1. NAxALT?
              2009 called, it wants its argument back.

           2. The fact that some individuals can assimilate into other cultures does not make the case for decoupling race and culture.

           3. Ok, now that’s much nicer. Thank you. You are correct, it does not. However, one can judge based on culture without fear of being called racist (or, with LESS fear of being called racist) than on race.
              Example: That damn saggy pants negro looks like he’s going to steal my car! (racist)
              That FUBU wearing thug over there with the Mr. T starter kit looks like he’s going to steal my car! (judging culture)

           4. I think culture has more to do with personality than race.

           5. Nope. That doesn’t work, particularly with American blacks. They want the best of both worlds, and it isn’t going to work that way. You can’t dress, act, talk, and behave like a ghetto thug, and yet demand to be treated with equal respect at the same time.
              I am not going to assume that any black guy is one of the 20% who isn’t willing to commit a felony against me.

     3. Society is a Racial Construct. Not the other way around. This can be proven over and over again using the scientific method. Just analyze the social data that has been gathered. It’s all there.

162. It’s funny to see people accusing Roosh V of being a Muslim (not that there is anything wrong with that) when Roosh V has shown his support for Christianity, including featuring Br. Aurelius Moner on the ROK website.

163. You have gone too far with your analysis of the so-called alt-right. Many of us are Eurocentric because we believe there is an agenda amongst the Western elite power groups to either hold back or completely eliminate European culture, its values, and the majority of its people in order to impose a larger, global hegemony once our group has been weakened. Historically, Whites have generally voted 50/50 Demo/GOP and this has gone against our in/group benefit–altruism perhaps; but we are now experiencing a massive collective understanding that anything right is now our only hope for political voice. I do not know if the alt right is a liberal infiltration, designed to make “in betweeners” go left due to the guttural nature of some of these extremists, however it is clear to me, that your site offers a myriad of right-of-center opinions, that to place all of us so-called alt right wingers into a single heap, you may do considerable damage to your site’s credibility, and therefore any impetus it will most certainly gain, during the ascension of the TRUMP movement. Furthermore, what this movement really means, especially to younger WHITE voters, is perhaps a more important topic to discuss, as the demoralization amongst many White voters over the past 20 years is the result of a wider institutional control game that has made “White” concepts of politics a social taboo, rather than a point of discussion for many of our people…
     R>

     1. Agreed. Dammit, we need to coalesce. We don’t have enough power yet to splinter off into little factions. We do that and they’ll crush us like bugs. We need to grow stronger first, then we can fight amongst each other.

164. Roosh said that Greg Johnson is a homosexual. Greg Johnson said in his response to this post “Roosh’s moral axiom here is that there should be no limits on sexual choices. (Although homosexuality is bad, because it provides a convenient ad hominem.)”
     I just don’t understand how the fuck you can advocate for controlling who heterosexual people fuck when you yourself are a homosexual. I understand you can argue for what’s better for society, but how can you have a guy who’s a homosexual laying out a hundred point plan or whatever for who heterosexual people are supposed to fuck?
     On one hand I understand the point that Western Civilization is basically embedded in the white race, and that race mixing is going to end the white race if it continues. But you can’t have homosexuals or women leading any sort of movement to correct that, that’s pathetic. That’s like a fuckin kid on the playground trying to go get his mom to fight for him.
     Heartiste had some interesting comments about race mixing recently. He said:
     “If the love is real and true (rare, but it happens), I’m not gonna rain on their charade. It’s the Equalist miscegenation propaganda, and the forced platitudes of shitlib miscegenators trying to justify their anti-Darwinian middle finger, that sticks in my craw. If the propaganda and the SJWistic glorification of dindu diving were to disappear tomorrow, I’d probably drop the subject because 1. there wouldn’t be a nonstop media assault of mixed race sproglet abominations to offend my aesthetic sensibility and 2. the risk of emotionally unstable White girls betraying their race’s heritage at the behest of subliminal media messages would be lower.”
     I think this is the main thing that people are sick of, the fuckin propaganda. And if the propaganda stopped then less people would do it, because most people want to marry or have relationships within their race anyway (in a stable society).
     The other thing is, I see a lot of comments on this site from people who are of mixed race, and I’m wondering if they really understand. Like, if I had a daughter and she was getting fucked by a black guy, that would repulse me to the inner depths of my soul, like Heartiste described in his post. Just like if I had a son and he was a homo, it would make me sick. But I don’t know which would make me sicker because I don’t have kids yet, probably the homo thing.
     Anyway, my question was, if you’re a half-breed, are you repulsed by this idea the same way a white person would be? I mean, if you’re half black and half white then you probably would give less of a fuck who your kids fuck, as long as they weren’t gay.

     1. Hear hear. Heartiste has a much better grasp on this issue.

     2. Black women get the short end of the stick in that argument, too, as it’s always white girls and black guys, not reversed.

     3. You should not be allowed to talk. Your stupidity is loud and ungainly.
        R>

        1. Sorry for your butthurt.

     4. No, you can read Muh Dick comments from halfbreeds all over this site, bragging about banging White women, really trying to rub it in our faces. They always identify with their black side.

     5. I believe that a half-black, half-white male would likely have the perspective that he deserves the best of both worlds – the race card, the victim benefits, and the ‘angry loser’ pass that being black gives him, along with the ability to mate with White women and improve his genetic progeny.
        I have known three of them who are exactly like this.

165. When blacks get mad, they riot, burn stuff down, and “randomly”, [email protected], murder, and torture White elderly & White children. They mob up on Whites 3-40 on one, when a White finds himself in the “wrong place at the wrong time”. The police are nowhere in sight during this.
     When latinos get mad, they engage in low scale warfare and [email protected] cops as a warning.
     When Whites get mad, unfathomable nightmares are given life and nations burn. The cops join in on the fun.

166. As an impartial witness, I see both sides with all of their attributes, both lovely and some not so much. Perhaps you could consider choosing a small group to speak with them as I believe you have more in common than not.

167. Neomasculinity is developing! This article will cost you some readers but doing the right thing often comes at a cost. Well done. I took one of those DNA tests and I’m very slightly Mexican but otherwise Swedish and Scots. That makes me a mud, right? Probably gay as well.

     1. Why would you have taken one of those DNA tests if you were not insecure about it? I don’t know anyone who has done that. Weird.

        1. You’re going to love this… after doing a bit of genealogy I thought that I might be part Black. I wasn’t, but I was part Mexican. So if Mexicans don’t exist, neither do I. It’ll give a guy pause.
           Was I insecure? If I’m honest I think maybe so. Not very flattering, but your comment might have hit the mark.
           Rereading my first post I realize those last two lines are way more sarcastic than I intended. I don’t really want to operate that way in this situation, so that was a mistake. I don’t like your ideology but I’ve read enough writers who claim to be nationalists to know that you guys certainly aren’t stupid. Not a good way to conduct a discussion.

     2. You are belbouring the point pathetically. This is not about race and politics, as much as it is about the race OF politics. Many Whites in America are now so disaffected that they know not what to do. A demagogue like Trump has now become their only beacon and this is a wretched place to be. Despite this, I will be voting for him as there is no true alternative for me. Your Swedes btw are just about cooked, mostly because they couldn’t understand the term “mud.”
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        1. Culturally I’m probably Scots Irish more than anything. Everything I read about Sweden tells me that it’s not the place for me. Good luck to them. Which is really my point… for me Western culture is an idea, not a race. And I love Western culture. You folks seem to assert that the only way to preserve it is a race war. I think that’s unrealistic, but history will decide.

168. Check out all the alt right bitches crying in the comments.
     lol

     1. Check out the whining cucks and hasbarats. In your case, look in the mirror.

        1. Your world is controlled by 14mm jews.
           lol

           1. 14mm jews? I know they have tiny dicks buts that just ridiculous.

           2. 14mm killah k!ke, brah

     2. using the same ad hominem, and false equivalency bullshit the fembots do too… interesting…

169. AltRight doesn’t just follow Feminism around on the meetups issue, and attacking PUA as degenerate without understanding what it’s about, their whole white knighting around white women is pathetic. The people that are most against it — are white women, but they’re still tripping over themselves to ‘defend them’ while these very same women laugh at them for being white nationalists.

     1. Women are amoral, they don’t care about any movements or ideologies. Only about what benefits themselves. Most of the alt right women are married mothers who obviously have something to defend. A lot are “ex liberals” which says everything.

        1. Yep their bitches would probably flip sides if their hubbies got hit by the bus. They’re being played.

        2. They also care about “keeping up appearances” which alone causes them to shun WN’s because it comes with a bad rap, and are usually associated with the worst genetics of the white race.

           1. I’ve never met a single white female in my life that was nationalistic. But many that shill for non whites and even sleep with them.

     2. What race are you? You seem incredibly threatened by WN as you have been posting on this article for an hour straight. I’m honestly curious.

        1. Haha. I do it because I know there are a lot of people who hate AltRight but they don’t say anything because these types circle-jerk and upvote their comments, down vote others. I don’t blame them. You get mobbed; they don’t engage in reason; they just call you a Jew or whatever they can think of. It has no reward except many people tell me privately they agree.

     3. They are getting played by white women. Different angle but same end result.

        1. They are. These white feminists (and the women who benefit from it even if they are not political feminists) are getting these shut-ins to rally for them, while they party, ignore them in real life, even support more refugees, sleep with non-white men. Meanwhile these invertebrates keep fighting for “their honor”. Guys who don’t give a shit about refugees are sleeping with them, while these clowns are pulling m’lady stunts.

     4. You’re a dishonest troll. You should show your real face. You actually said this in another comment:
        “There were no rapes in Cologne. Just hysteria from people who rant and rave and repeat themselves but cannot produce one iota of evidence that rape occurred.”
        That was in between your obsessive posts gloating about black men with white women. Then you admitted that you are often mistaken for a Jew. I wonder why?

        1. Miscegenation has happened, is happening and probably isn’t going to slow down anytime soon. It’s unfortunate and I’d rather it didn’t but we must work with what we have, mainly the implementation of positive eugenics. Threatening to expel or murder large segments of the population isn’t going to endure the right to anyone.
           Also read Mark Citadel’s comment about qualitative measures of race vs quantitative.

           1. So…you admit that you don’t like miscegenation – you call it unfortunate. But then you take the position of the weak, powerless, and cowardly, in saying that nothing can be done to shape the world around you. And you want us to pat you on the back for that? Cowardice is easy. It takes a man to stand up and do something.

           2. I didn’t say that I wanted to do nothing, however I’d rather work on a long term solution than a pointless bloodbath.

           3. then you are just strawmanning.
              nobody is talking about a bloodbath…unless it is forced to that.
              long term solutions include positive eugenics, as you said, and a large part of that is shaming bad behavior in women – such as whoring and mudsharking.

           4. In my opinion a long term solution would be something like moving back to a Traditional society that is founded on Patriarchal principles. This doesn’t just mean for whites but for all races that are capable of achieving this.
              Telling young men that modern women are special, virginal snowflakes isn’t going to help anyone.

           5. Yes, I agree. But how to instigate this with a broken generation?

           6. Look, we are in violent agreement. A lot of strawmen have been erected here today. There is a large difference between White Supremacist Stormfronters and White Nationalists.

           7. They all worship the cult of white poosy. They are poosy whipped at a fundemental level.

           8. Originally I thought the solution would be the implementation of transhumanist technology to eradicate women from the reproductive process. However in terms of culture, possibly technology and metaphysical spirituality this is not feasible.
              So yes, I agree. We must do something to reverse these changes. I’m sure Neoreaction has a few ideas.

           9. Taking control of women is a huge priority. But at this stage it will require a global effort not just among whites.

        2. You are laying the irony on a bit thick aren’t you? You know, I’ve posted that on Cologne rapes multiple times. And what I get back from it, reliably, is indignation. No facts. Never. I’ve had over 50 responses on different posts and NOONE can show me evidence on the rapes. Of the 50 moving to trial, only 4 are Syrian refugees and it doesn’t seem clear they’re going to be tried on rape (only sexual assault which usually means ass-grabbing). So what I’m driving at is the whole AltRight hysteria is at root based on unproven assumptions- this is their core issue they keep repeating and they can’t even back it up.

           1. So you are coming from the viewpoint of being a passionate apologist for Africans and Arabs. That says it all. You won’t come clean about who you really are, but you don’t need to.

     5. good goyim

     6. Work in an office for a while. Amazing how low the talk can be when directed under breath between women; but when a str8 fella tries the same motif–all the chicks in the henhouse clickbait and kill him off. 50,000 years ago, it was pretty much the same in the old cave. They kill each other off singly, then club to death someone who went against them in general. Now to the topic of why women generally vote LEFT: oh shit, I just made the relation between female ultruism and the hatred of the alpha male type. What? Are all chicks commies?
        Yikes.
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170. Did roosh use to be a hippie? He looks like a hippie in that pic. All hippies should be tasered by police until they piss themselves.

171. Roosh, Keep on keepin on….RoK still a solid part of a common sense Nationalism. I think the reasonable core of opposition to the leftist elite is cool with a form of citizenism which adopts immigration tightening but is not obsessed with racial issues. I think in the bigger picture, we need freedom of association, freedom of speech and a way for western nations to assert a separate identity from the chaos
     of globalism & mass migration from the dysfunctional 3rd world.

     1. I honestly don’t know what nativism has to do with men, except in some vague, strained explanation for which you could tie 1,000 different causes to masculinity. SJWs blow so…..we have to oppose everything they stand for and make it a cause of men? Let’s keep politics out of it, and just talk about how to improve as men.

172. whiny kebab

173. I’m a White Nationalist, but I’m also a Japanese Nationalist and a Black Nationalist, and a Mexican Nationalist. I think every nation, every race has the right to its own homeland that is free from undue foreign influence. Hate doesn’t even enter into the equation. I just want what’s best for all of mankind, and I know multiculturalism is a failure. Every race is into mate-guarding, and every race is bigoted. Those are facts of life. We do best when we are peaceful neighbors engaged in trade.

     1. The US is going to be brazil in 50 years.
        brazil is just a failure.

        1. That is really terrific analysis. Can you explain why Asians and Jews, and actually MANY other ethnic minorities have higher education and income than whites in America?

           1. Can you explain why you’re misappropriating the English language and White technology? Savage DNA is just that, incapable of progress without Whites and lashing out at the unknown like a monkey in a zoo built by Whites.

           2. Affirmative Action, coupled with Leftist Admissions Staff?

           3. Still waiting for your response regarding immigrants who outperform aryan natives.

           4. Get back to me when africans craft a durable spearhead.

           5. You seem to have a thing for “spears”.

     2. I completely agree with this. America for Native Americans; everyone else back to their homelands. A homeland is a place you have a connection to for millennia, where the evolution of your kind adapted to the surroundings – and there is a hand/glove fit between the two. Where your blood is connected with the soil. Only Native Americans can lay claim to that. Everyone else out.

        1. As soon as all of Europe is evacuated of all non-Whites, then we will begin the trek back to our ancestral homelands.
           But no, if you want to play the history game, you’ve got to read up on the Solutrean Hypothesis, bro. Turns out – and this will blow your mind – White Europeans were in America first, and the Aztecs migrated up from down South and murdered them! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solutrean_hypothesis
           So yeah, I guess America is a White nation after all! Crazy, huh?

           1. Seems debunked by highly credible sources: http://scienceblogs.com/aardvarchaeology/2014/02/13/genetic-study-kills-off-solutrean-hypothesis/

           2. I’m sure many credentialed Jews have thoroughly debunked it.

        2. Good idea,
           Whites can move back to their motherlands. China and Russia can then light the USA on fire.

        3. The real question is why are you so threatened by the idea of a White Country?
           And as a follow up, what race/nationality are you?
           And, which nations do you think rightfully belong to Whites, since you think America should be donated back to the Indians?

           1. Europe.

           2. Ok so how do we purge Europe of non-Whites?

        4. Native Americans aren’t from America, they crossed a land bridge to get here. If Trump could travel back in time he would’ve built a wall to keep those fuckers out.

           1. The operative word from my comment was millenia.

           2. So a thousand year rule? Seems a bit arbitrary. So if whites hang on for another 500 or so years, then they get to keep America?

           3. Millennia, Millennium — please go back to community college.

           4. Okay, but it doesn’t make your argument any less stupid. You’re saying that the only legitimate claim a people have to a land is that they’ve lived on it for x number of years. I say that your retarded standard has no reference to reality. Wars determine who owns what.

           5. Even your noble hero Hitler understood the connection of a race to its soil. You really do him an injustice by overlooking his expansive coverage of this subject in Mein Kampf.

           6. You don’t see these clowns advocating that any other people on the planet give back land that was won in battle. They are just anti-White propagandists, to be studied like insects.

           7. Who but a SJW brings up Hitler to deflect away from the fact that he has no argument? Try again.

           8. Exactly.

           9. Just the facts m’aam

        5. whites have been in n america continuously for millennia, and got here before the yellows/reds. archaeology says so, fuk your joo-facts

     3. I agree with that, but also with some areas where people mix. naturally its in the major cities where people mix, and the countryside where the ethnic groups stay pure.

     4. I’m just curious, do you pray to a female version of Buddha with big pancake titties?

        1. Are you referring to these things found around Europe? http://cache2.allpostersimages.com/p/LRG/13/1351/N3IS000Z/posters/the-venus-of-willendorf-fertility-symbol-pre-historic-sculpture-30000-25000-bc-front-view.jpg

           1. Ah there she is.
              Aren’t you going to introduce us? (Please don’t)

           2. Why not? Is she not what every man desires?
              iBooB, this is the Venus of Willendorf; she was probably used in rituals to help get women pregnant, thus she’s a lesbian. She’s been dying to meet you and help get YOU pregnant. Interested?

     5. Lumping everyone into specific categories is the problem.
        “Every race is into mate-guarding”
        Most “men” are into mate-guarding, more so those men who have trouble getting laid, especially by attractive women.
        “Every race is bigoted”
        Every Human Being is prejudice. Racism is only one form and not everyone cares because a lot of us are mixed.

174. we would not attack you if you didn’t make up shit stories about being with euro girls. if you just pua ed kebab girls you wouldn’t have this problem

     1. You need to calm down. There’s a lot worse than Roosh in the world.

        1. sorry but kebab boy thinks because he’s against feminism that we will be okay with him trying to fuck euro girls, we are not

           1. Why don’t you focus on finding your own wife/gf? Then you can make a whole bunch of white babies and forget all about Roosh. It’s not really that much of a big deal what he’s done.

           2. i already have one, why don’t you stop worshiping a kebab who secretly looks down on you

           3. If your girls fuck kebabs then they’re filthy whores, don’t blame the man you pussy

           4. I know from my own personal experience for fuck’s sake. Keep pedestalizing white females because their white. Chump.

           5. Yeah, sadly. Me too.

           6. A lot of white girls are giving blow jobs in the school toilets at 14. They’re hardly virginal princesses.

           7. Do you blame the dog when he humps the stranger’s leg, or do you blame the owner?

           8. maybe in your shit country, maybe because they worship the culture roosh loves, it’s almost like someone is trying to tell them this trough the media

           9. You don’t live in the anglosphere? You lucky bastard. Why did you learn English?

           10. If the woman is seduced by the kebab and willing then yes she is a filthy whore, I’ve never advocated this but she has a choice whether to be tainted

           11. English is taught in a lot of places, take a trip to a non angloised white country and tell me all the girls are whores there

           12. I don’t blame the women.
               I blame YKW.

           13. Well cossack, from one Fascist/NS to another, Roosh is going to continue fucking European girls, and probably more and hotter ones now that he’s gotten famous.
               The only difference is that now he won’t promote our radical ideas to his millions of young white male readers.
               What do we objectively get from this from a revolutionary point of view? I’m not going to police Roosh’s dick. If this is really something that keeps you up at night, then maybe its time to make pragmatic decisions to get ourselves in power, so that women will stop opening their legs up for anyone that has a US passport.

           14. Oh here we go again. Can we please have some objectivity about the nature of women? Also we need to reteach men masculinity not continually look under the rug for “jews”.

           15. Yes, no doubt but they don’t force the hand.

           16. I blame the man in charge, for the behavior of dogs, children, and women. They have put themselves on that same mental level through their behavior.
               In the case of modern women, raised by single mothers, it is trash producing more trash. There is no man present, and so they become like feral dogs (bitches).

           17. Exactly. It’s true that Jews are not innocent but they’re also not holding a gun to anyone’s head to behave in a certain manner. Blaming Jews for bad behavior is like females blaming mental illness and drug addictions.

           18. I think what happens is people discover the enormous influence Jews wield in our culture, and resent this concentration of power in foreign hands.

           19. Whites were sick long before the Jews came into power in the West. Since the Enlightenment the entire civilization is in decline.

           20. The truth is that, according to Traditionalist doctrine all civilizations are cyclical. We’re simply seeing the end of this one unfortunately.

           21. Right. They’re to blame for many things,but blame the traitors to your race first who sold us out to the Juden. We have knowledge and we have a choice in our decisions be responsible for it. Good point

           22. White women are simply groomed from “tall dark and handsome” to the cucking going on today. It’s been going on since the 60s. What has the US accomplished since the 60s? The poz doesn’t count. Have we won a war? Have we gone beyond the moon? No, we dumped our capitol into the war on poverty and opened up the borders. Stalin & Hitler couldn’t have envisioned a crippling of the US more complete in their wildest dreams.

           23. I don’t disagree with you, it should be instilled in the woman from an early age for who she is to be with and how she is to act. If she acts outside of that guidance who are you to blame? Blame the woman because she knows better

           24. I’m sure in the Bible somewhere Jesus said “Physician, heal thyself” which basically means focus on your own ills, your own household and your own nation.
               Once we have diagnosed problems and can work towards a solution, we can deal with the Jews then. Until that time, we just act and look like pathetic victims.
               Jewish power is based on attacking white weaknesses. If we can remove our weaknesses and look introspectively at our own race we will be in a position to succeed.

           25. Very true. Jew elite have been exposing this weakness for centuries. Go back to the Spanish inquisition where the Juden worked with Islam against Christianity. Once Spain had united under one faith and one people they reclaimed their nation and eradicated the Juden and they’re Islamic counterparts after 500 years of enslavement

           26. We’ve accomplished nothing because the white man is only fixated on his own ass and what makes him happy. Daughters screwing that nig down the street? Ah as long as she’s happy. The American white man has no culture or no shred of dignity left to do what’s right for his people.

           27. Which is why we need to build something new, based on the eternal Platonic forms of Tradition. You can’t go back to the past, you can only build the new in the form or iteration of the current cycle. Give the white man something to be proud of.

           28. Wut game is on tonight brah?
               I been following dat one since his college days.
               I even have his jersey like the b!tch I am.
               Tell me about it.

           29. Lol spot on

           30. Man can build and rise but without God he will always falter.

           31. The Platonic forms and Tradition are from God. Religion is a vector of Tradition which is a form of metaphysics itself. I’m not talking as a secular humanist.

           32. I understood that from platonic and traditional view also your interpretation from the Bible . I was agreeing with you just reaffirming what you said

           33. You’ll have about as much success with that as Plato did when he tried his real world implementation

           34. That’s bunk. Plato himself gave up on the doctrine of the forms after it was logically debunked by the Eleatics. That’s the whole reason why Plato wrote The Laws in his old age–he knew that the doctrine of forms and its accompanying philosopher kings that he earlier proposed in The Republic were unworkable and logically flawed and that he had to replace them with something

           35. Who is we? What kind of authority do you think you have? If he wants to shag euro girls he’s free to do it, as long as he doesn’t force himself on them like those pretend-to-be refugees are doing right now!
               Exactly in the same way I’m allowed to chaise tail of whatever backgroud.

           36. They didn’t eradicate the Jews in Spain after the Reconquista, sure some of them perished while other fled to Morocco but the vast majority were given the chance to convert to Christianity hence the fact that now as much as 40% of the population of Spain has Sephardi Jew ancestry

     2. Because white girls behave like raging whores, whose fault is that? Maybe ask their mothers. lol
        The only reason you aren’t seeing more white girls open their legs for you is because you are too beta. That’s a difficult red pill truth to internalize.

        1. 1st i don’t believe kebab clowns stories, 2nd if they are true than they were probably prostitutes to begin with

           1. Oh man, take the red pill. So in denial. The greatest weakness of the alt right.

           2. how about you take the red pill on kebabs

           3. Okay, I’ll tell you what. When the altright lets go of this ridiculous “kebab rapist” thing, I’ll let go of supporting PUA and attempt to find a nice wife. If such a thing exists.

           4. you’ll find a wife but you have to stop worshiping a kebab like roosh,

           5. I don’t worship roosh but he does offer practical solutions. What does the alt right offer except “find a wife”?

           6. maybe putting traditional values instead of just picking up random sluts like roosh claims he does

           7. Young, attractive women are very much in demand. So much so that finding a virginal one is practically impossible for the average man unless he’s grown up in a religious cult. Of course, I could probably find a washed out single mother to marry but how embarrassing is that?

           8. if you acting like a alpha and not a kebab loving beta, you would have decent women who at least a 1/4 are virgins wanting something to do with you, low quality women are because of low quality men

           9. Thanks, that’s the first good quality post you’ve made.

           10. a lot of you guys would find that as long as you are white and don’t hang around liberal garbage, that traditional white girls are out there, is there tons of them, no but they are more common than you think

           11. You’re probably right. In your defense I don’t go out as much as I should, I don’t really know where to look to find girls except for bars and clubs. I don’t have many females in my social groups either. There probably are decent girls, even in the anglosphere.

175. Greg Johnson says it well
     http://www.counter-currents.com/2016/02/yes-roosh-white-nationalists-want-to-control-sexual-behavior/

     1. Does Johnson want white gay men to only have buttsex with other white men? Why is he distinguishing between dysgenic and eugenic breeding when none will come from anal congress.

        1. your thinking of jack Donovan who is about the same level as roosh just a gay roosh,

        2. Anal Congress. I like that. Good punk rock band name.

           1. You’re thinking of actual band Anal Cunt.

        3. Total Nazi drivel on the alt-right. They’ll never admit it. Gotta call a spade a spade.
           “To do that, we need to create homogeneously white homelands, which by their very nature limit sexual choices to members of our own race.”
           Any guy should sleep with whomever the hell he wants. End of story.

           1. does ck = cuckold ?

           2. Nay…if I was, I’d dump the broad at the drop of a hat.

           3. But you gotta admit – you only say that, because if it were enforced, you would have to move to Israel and take a Jewish bride.

           4. What would be enforced? I’m a third generation American. I live in L.A., I have a great life, and I wouldn’t want to live anywhere else. I’ll go out with any woman I want, irrespective of race or religion.

           5. You can confidently say that, knowing that you are enjoying the fruits of another peoples’ labor – America, and Los Angeles – while sleeping soundly in the knowledge that Israel is tucked safely away with strict policies in place to ensure Jewish survival.
              My position is more that America needs to adopt a posture similar to Israel.

           6. America has to do a better job handling immigration, we’re in agreement there. But I disagree with Greg Johnson entirely on the whole “white homeland” thing, especially in what easily the most diverse country on earth.

     2. MUH GREG ЖЖЖЖЖOHNSON

176. Whites are being outbred by sand-muds such as Roosh. Solution: make more babies. Casual sex and pick-up culture is in direct conflict with this solution.
     Fact is, Roosh tried to join the AltRight cause he wants to be one of the cool kids. We kicked him out, now he’s writing attack articles about us.
     He’s very pathetic, very beta.

     1. I’m sorry, but if you read that Greg Johnson asshole for five minutes about “white homelands,” and “purifying the race,” any sane person would reject it. Nobody has to be rejected from anything.

        1. well apparently you are a jew so no wonder you are defending your kebab bro

           1. “Kebab bro,” that’s funny. Mother is Jewish. Father is white Catholic.

           2. well if your mother is a jew, by jewish religion doesn’t that make you one

           3. So? It’s also a little weird hearing all this talk of “white homelands” and whatnot, yet these very people are vocally opposed to the world’s only Jewish state in Israel, created specifically so that Jews could escape this fascistic bullshit spouted on the alt-right.

           4. i have no problem with israel, infact i think all jews should go there so they can worry about there own gov instead of being liberals or fake conservatives in their host countries, it’s a win win

           5. It seems like an instinctive thing with Jews – they hate the idea of Whites having their own exclusively White nations, because deep down they fear it will turn into another prewar Germany. Don’t you feel it? We’ve both been around the Tribe our whole lives, right? You have to have felt it.

           6. Jews – whatever you mean by that – don’t have any problems with other countries having citizenship policies similar to the ones of Israel (if that was your point).

           7. I think it’s going to happen whether jews like it or not. The forces are already in motion. I just hope jews aren’t hurt so the negative identity can die off.

        2. Do you reject it for your jewish kin?

           1. Jews are free to marry whoever they want; I’m not even fully Jewish.

           2. Then stop whining about neo-nazis and racists. White people have a right to their own homelands, just like everyone else has.

           3. I’m not “whining” about anything. How exactly do you propose to establish “white homelands” in this day and age? Many white majority countries have well-assimilated ethnic minorities. Again, that’s certainly not saying that all ethic minorities in these white countries are well-assimilated, as Europe has clearly shown.

           4. Ask yourself how it was established when every other empire in history broke up: It can be done peacefully, or it can be done violently. Typically empires end in a crescendo of violence.
              And most ethnic minorities aren’t well assimilated either. And in any case, they’re not Westerners. Period.
              White countries have no obligation to these minorities, as they were brought in against the will and without the approval of Whites in the first place. When Whites have been given the choice, they always voted against it. It was forced on them, which means they have the right to use all means to establish their own homeland.

           5. How did Jews establish Israel when it’s was all Palestinian when they began to move there. Anything can be done. One only needs the will.

           6. It wasn’t “Palestinian.” “Palestinians” themselves have said as much. Hell, the areas the “Palestinians” now claim for a state were Egyptian and Jordanian until 1967. The British Mandate on the region expired in 1948 and the Jews declared their state under UN Resolution 181, which the Arabs did not accept and instead launched a war of genocide which they thankfully lost. At no point in history has a “Palestinian” nation consisting of all of Israel ever existed.

     2. I would hope he has a reply to this comment. But it would have to be in essay form, or another article stipulated as an reply. I really like many of the article writers and essayists that persist here. However, your point is well taken; it is my hope that you are only being a sarcast, and if you are plainly correct, then I fear I have wasted my time here…
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     3. > “sand-muds such as Roosh”
        > implying that you aren’t a feminist

177. AltRight has basically tried to exploit tendencies of men. First, fear. They’ve over-exaggerated the migrant issue, making Americans somehow want to care about thousands of Syrians in Germany when who gives a f*ck. They have no statistics. Just the opinions of some drunk women. Which leads me to the second tendency, m’lady white knighting. All men have this weakness- to stick up for women. Red Pill shows you why this is a stupid idea; but enough men are fooled,
     Third, ego. Men have pride; when they don’t accomplish what they think they should, they flounder about for scapegoats. This characterizes the lion’s share of AltRighters. As an add-on, I’ll say they’ve somehow convinced insecure men that being AltRight is being “strong” and against SJW; when in actuality they are the mirror image of feminists- as simple-minded and catty. They’ve done a great job of marketing. That’s whey they’re so upset that Roosh called them out. Their jig is up.

     1. man you just love kebabs

        1. Just proving his point.

           1. nope just saying that’s some kind of fetish he has going on there

           2. Nah, the whole swooping generalization about an entire race or religion, you’re playing right into the hands of leftists and SJWs. Ever heard of the horseshoe theory? Alt-right (should be far-right) is much closer to the far left than they realize.

           3. not true thats just what libtardtarians think

        2. kebab kebab kebab kebab kebab kebab kebab

           1. well it’s your fetish not mine

     2. You are now self defining yourself as a troll. Sorry but your legitimacy just ran out. You are a LEFT minder. You must leave now.
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        1. lol wtf. you all have been circle jerking so long, you don’t know how to intelligently respond to criticisms. you can see the delta in intelligence between nrx and alt right even if they both harbor the same incoherent ideology.

     3. You sure have a lot to say…

178. I’ve enjoyed seeing movements peak and then plummet. Feminism is going through the “jumping the shark” moment now. I was glad to see the faux-hawk also disappear; that was a relief. When NRX or AltRight or Psuedo-Intellectual-Inbreds began to gain traction a few years ago, I suspected it wouldn’t last. When a movement succeeds, it overreaches and that’s exactly what’s happened to them.
     Someone critiques them on Twitter; they immediately hit back not just at that person, but at their group, their organization; and in a very low brow way. Immediately, they discredit themselves with thousands. This scene repeats 1,000 times. People see through their polishing the turd of bigotry; they see through the false phrase of “race realism” just as we’ve seen through the nonsense of the campaign of equality for women; which actually means equal outcomes or advantaging women over men. The words don’t matter; the meaning behind them does; the actual intent of the group. AltRight is done.

     1. Go away. Your thoughts are just dander. Go to bed. Don’t come back.
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179. It would be neat if we could coexist.
     But, that has never been the case. It has and always will be a test of which ideology is more powerful and beneficial to the people. Try all you like, Western Civilization is ideal to the point of every other even slightly sub-par ideologies flocking here. Democrats just underestimate Americans to the point of creating a trafficking in persons operation to bring in socialist people that have 5-6 kids and will vote (D). They could just move to the right and adopt a traditional (D) political stance. But, that would make too much sense and just be boring.

     1. Who says we can’t co-exist? Only false victimhood and irrational fear-mongering leads us to believe we cannot. Again, men should be logical; appraise reality for what it is. Not get hysterical over a few high-profile incidents. Multiculturalism has become a dirty word to people who cannot even explain why it’s so “evil”.

        1. Multiculturalism doesn’t work; it jams people together who have wildly differing cultures and worldviews, creating disharmony, strife and resentment. Nothing could be more perfectly designed to destroy a society than multiculturalism.

           1. Multiculturalism doesn’t work, but the ideals and triumphs of the western way of life can and should be available to all. No, that does not mean unlimited immigration, but introducing other peoples and societies to said way of life. No famines, no dictators, no collapse of society, no reason for mass immigration to occur.

           2. And you do that with carrier pigeons, fax machines, emails, ftp sites, and p2p. It’s not even necessary to step foot in another man’s country anymore!

           3. If you’re a the top of the pyramid, things work out just fine.
              It’s like crack to the banks. Those home sales away from the bad hood into the suburbs require financing. The long drive required to avoid the hood necessitates an additional car. That car financing needs the assistance of the bank. The growing suburbs will require all the nice things and shops found in the now blighted hood. Those nice things and shops will need to take loans to finance them. The children will be taught at the university to go “forward” and hold those of the previous generation and the visibly disenfranchised in a dim view. The upcoming adults wont be able to put 2+2 together and figure out they’re f v cked. The blacks, latinos, and asians will be welcomed in and the once nice neighborhood will turn to sh ! t. The cycle repeats itself. Eventualy the enlightened nation will accept an open borders policy. The cycle repeats itself. The blacks and latnios take the cities and the Whites go to the country in a quasi-balkanization. The cycle repeats itslf. The hustle runs 24/7. If you question it, you’re a “racist”. You’re maligned. You’re cut off. You’re a pariah. The banks have this figured out from the cost of birth to the death tax.
              &
              The banks win and everyone else loses, like a casino in Vegas.

           4. Case closed. The globalists want multiculturalism because they want to be able to move people around at will like pieces on a chess board. Labor units and consumers. That’s all you are.

        2. I’d say it’s the opposite, friend. Multiculturalism has become a cause to celebrate with people who cannot explain why it is so good.
           The burden of proof should be on the party who is trying to usher in radical change, such as an influx of migrants. They should have to first prove why it is beneficial to the average citizen.

        3. “multiculturalism” = failure 100% of the time

           1. Don’t you mean 32% of the time?

        4. Let’s talk about “minority” corruption. Here’s a game for you. Invite your diverse friends over for a game of poker. All the Whites don’t get to use the wild card. Repeat at every gathering. I bet you’ll have less White guests after a while. The Wild card is the “race card”. The game is stupid in the same way that EO is a cynical hustle. This would attract and breed generations of people with less and less scruples. People are coming here to get our capital, across a border that only exists on a map and not enforced in any meaningful way.

           1. Bigots call every legitimate assertion of racial double standards or mistreatment as playing the “race card”. It is to discredit the charge before it’s reviewed. That’s all you imbeciles do; you can’t produce one intelligent counter-argument.

           2. Awwwwwww,
              Just go back to your motherland to escape us “evil bigoted Whites”.
              We must be terrible people.
              Just leave.

           3. Whites aren’t stupid; I’m talking about you. Gladly, most of us don’t share your views nor your subpar intelligence.

           4. Wrong,
              Without Whites, almost all other races would be stuck in some form of dark age. Whites aren’t simply above stupid.

           5. English is not your first language obviously.

           6. Bigoted statement if I’ve ever read one. Racist.

     2. I wish it was that simple. It is not. There is a plan at stake. The pattern of operation is very clear. There is a demographic control push happening that is occurring by design. It is not for me to say who or why. All we should be doing as social and political stakeholders, is operating as a group (multilateral and third party) to understand why this is happening. I believe a thorough reading of “The Culture of Critique” would be a safe first read to get us where we need to be, to sort of “get it right” in our heads. Then a few steps forward may be in order…
        R>

        1. It is too late. 35% of America is non-white. The birth rate delta is real. The intermarriage rate is rising dramatically. The ‘mixed’ race is now on the Census and increasingly selected. You are several decades too late. The 50% mark will pass soon and in a nation of universal suffrage, control will be lost once and for all. Actually control has been lost already as the white vote is split. Not even Trump can get anything through a congress which itself has allegiances to constituencies and interests that oppose what you’re trying to do. It’s Too Little, Too Late.

           1. Ultimately, “suffrage” comes at the end of a gun barrel. What are you going to do when the lights go out?

           2. It’s not possible. Even minor movements are infiltrated and destroyed by acronym organizations. The sophistication of the security apparatus prevents any meaningful collaboration or certainly a militant response. The only reason it hasn’t happened yet is that they don’t view idle online communication as a threat. I guess we will see.

           3. I don’t really mean what it sounds like you think I mean. Just that one day. there will be an interruption in our network of services, and when that fragile web is broken, ideas like universal suffrage go right out the window.

           4. If you think the alphabet agencies are omnipotent you are missing a lot. They are scared.

           5. I honestly think the fear of miscegenation is extremely overblown. In the United States the percentage of people who are mixed race (of which I am one) is about 2.9%. That’s about 9,000,000 people roughly speaking. And those aren’t just people who are part white part minority, it’s also minorities with other minorities. In the end the overwhelming majority of white people will marry other white people, black people black people, Asians Asians, etc. The problem is not miscegenation. The problem is feminism. White women are spending their prime years partying and working in careers they aren’t happy in in the first place, and when they do get married (past their prime) they wind up having one or two kids, or no kids at all. That’s the primary reason the white population is shrinking, not miscegenation.

        2. 1. Left leaning votes
           2. dirt cheap labor
           3. a tax base for the entitlement Ponzi scheme
           4. fear of nation contraction
           As a result:
           America is human trafficking savages that hate America the white hot fire of the sun. E Europe and Russia would rather contract than become the next S. Africa/Haiti. America’s once formidable “Arsenal of Democracy”, Detroit, is gone. It’ll never come back. Nagasaki recovered. (D) votes, dirt cheap labor for the USCOC, and sustaining the social programs Ponzi scheme isn’t worth cucking your own nation.

           1. The cost of welfare (social programs) is MUCH lower than social security and medicare. The latter two make up about a 1/3rd of the federal budget whereas welfare is a few percent. Once again, AltRight blowing things out of proportion and not addressing the real issues.

180. Good job Roosh. I’m glad you wrote this article.
     I’ve been reading ROK since its inception. Always enjoyed your insights.
     But I’ve been dismayed at the direction it’s been going in for the past year or so. I came here to learn about sex and gender dynamics – not racial dynamics. The sudden infiltration by neo-Nazi skinheads almost made me stop reading.
     This article is a welcome first step in turning the ship around. Kudos!

     1. It’s a defining moment. I was a reader of Heartiste for a while; until every other post was “we are beseiged with muds”. I thought to myself, what does this have to do with pickup? It creeped in and then spread like a wildfire with people like Cernovich and others taking up the mantle. Always they attacked SJW – which is fine- but then embraced a worldview which was exactly like SJW in its hystericalism over reason. You can see the divide on the RooshV forum as well- with many regular members checking out because all peopel talk about is race, immigration, etc. – and usually in a hyperbolic way. Hope this will turn the tide.

        1. This site is civil 99% of the time, but anything having to do with race or religion, and it’s like moths to a flame.

           1. No discussion on race ever ends up better than not having it at all. I’ve just never seen that happen.

           2. Only if you have a problem with Whites.

        2. Masculinity and Traditionalism are more important at this stage than identity politics. Identity politics based on race alone are not enough.

        3. I’m bowing out of here after a few more comments, but the reason these sites all end up discussing race and nation, is because that is the true red pill. The PUA stuff is just window dressing, like a fishing lure that gets young men interested. Once they learn the truth about male/female dynamics, and how much they were lied to by society, the smart ones will always wonder what else they were lied to about. They will see those familiar patterns of deception when it comes to race and nation, with the same players behind it. It’s inevitable – you can’t separate pua red pill from political red pill.

           1. The manosphere is a unique phenomenon; I guess I never thought I would see men come together so rapidly to understand the nature of modern women and how feminism disadvantages us in varied ways. It’s a rare opportunity for men from being atomized and at the mercy of a well organized feminist movement…and I’m just talking about the standpoint of being aware. Men confide in each other, strategize; I have to say the lives of so many men have changed because of it. What a shame if political/racial divisions destroy something which has so much promise.

           2. Its whole promise IS in the political/racial application of the red pill! I hope some day you will understand that. Getting laid is nice but a mature man needs vastly more than that in order to be satisfied. He needs an empire, a dynasty, a legacy.

181. To Roosh V.
     The content and quick reply by so many subscribers to this post is a stark reminder to you about your base. They are, for the most part, desperate, WHITE socio-political intellectuals who are seeking to find an outlet that fits their demoralized niche. They are not demogogueic tribalists hoping for a new Hitler. They realize this is the last year they will have a political voice until bullets replace the ballot. And all of us are in fear that the intended American culture as was envisioned by the Founding Fathers will fall into a pit of no return… Return the favour, and sit low on these issues, as it is our Maleness and Heterosexuality that is really at stake here; and by compartmentalizing our differing races and endeavours outside of sexuality, you have aided and abetted the Establishment’s courage against us by allowing trolls to enter in this discussion by repartitioning our core power…
     R>

     1. >They realize this is the last year they will have a political voice until bullets replace the ballot.
        Are you nuts?
        He is sidelining the clowns who keep sliding their anti-[fill-in-the-blank] hysteria into every ROK article and comments; having jacksh*t to do with masculinity. They are a detriment to NeoMasculinity and an emphasis on self-improvement. If they were all gone tomorrow, the community would grow stronger.

        1. Neo-masculinity has become the new Right Wing by proxy. Not intent. The liberal left does not care if it has any correlating values. It is cis het and masculine. Therefore by LEFT wing definition, neo-masculinity is a right wing phenomenon. And thus, we have a dilemma…
           R>

           1. Understandable. Roosh is just upset that WN throw their principles under the bus for a sniff at some used pussy.

           2. I dig that. But we have to band together on main issues. And if sometimes a few White guys need to band together, then let them. In the end, an attack on Het males of any particular group, especially WHITES, should make us all uncomfortable. Hey, who will be next??? This should be a wake up to all Het Males in the West. There is a war against our natural persuasion. It is a global position that the Elites now have. And we must fight. In racial pockets, gender pockets, in male club pockets. It doesn’t matter. On the street–we will always know what each one is worth…
              R>

           3. Agreed. We have all the intellectual tools at our disposal. We have to start using them to fight back, not compete for the fickle favor of feral females.

           4. Feral Females. I was married to a Parisienne and lived in Europe for years. I am now in the Canadian Northwest–and divorced. However I noticed one thing in all those years living in Europe: that is, they got soft. I have never seen softer people than they. And the women, softer than silk. I wonder how the old European mentality will kick in when they see that the circus they have invited into their midst comes full circle? Feral Females? Not so much. Stupid methinks. It was their voting pattern that allowed the bisexual parliaments of the EU to allow trillions of low IQ apes into their midst. And by Allah, there will be blood…
              R>

           5. I live in the Southern Hemisphere so most women I’ve come into contact with are hardened sluts of Anglo-European descent. Not feminine or ladylike at all. Sure, they exist but they’re rare. Hearing your description of European females actually gives me some hope that maybe femininity is not totally lost in this age.
              However the facts remain that women are shielded from the results of violence and their misappropriations of political power under the guise of good intentions. This is going to be a test for all of us but we can start by laying out coherent plans and the exchange of ideas.

           6. Well here is one: the Liberal Sluts of Europe do not care about
              their own. They are more worried about hiding the evidence of Islamic rapes of White women in refugee camps. I was at a station in Stockholm two years ago, where beautiful blonde girls were telling their own kind on placards that “we are not your women anymore, we are other peoples.” And I thought to myself: “Is this the end of Western Civilization?” When our own women cannot stand the way we look, our values, or our way of being?
              R>

           7. Like Adam Levinson wrote in an earlier comment, “Many women will follow power and ignore words.”
              Women’s opinion ultimately does not matter. It is a fallacy of the modern world that women have agency and direction. She can’t do anything except secure resources for herself, submit and follow.
              Be strong. All is not lost and ultimately we will prevail.

           8. Nature will always prevail friend. My horror is thus: That by prevailing, we will lose our scope and history, And thus, we will lose our humanity…
              R>

           9. We already have lost our scope and history many times before. Think of the Library of Alexandria burning to the ground.
              The important thing to realize is that there are eternal forms which preserve what is essential to a race and civilization. We will not see the fall of the Aryan race, possibly the death of the West but all is not lost.

           10. I left Paris. I divorced my wife. I am 45. I now live in a remote part of Canada where everything is at my hand. But When I leave my books and my harbour, and go back into the city, it will not be with happiness. I think I will actually find my foxhole in Eastern Europe. I will hole up there, and resist the invasion. I will die in the mud, but so did my Great Grandad at Vimy Ridge…
               R>

           11. Well, it seems you are part of the culture bearing stratum, it is not your fate to “die in the mud” as you proclaim.
               Your destiny, if you choose to accept it is to preserve the best of the culture of the Europeans and train your replacements. You must become part of the golden chain of Tradition. That is what you will live for.
               As for your wife, I’m 30 years old and have never had the opportunity to have a wife. I was engaged for a short while when I was 25 but lost her. You shouldn’t give in to existential despair, your life is really blessed and you have a great mission ahead of you.

           12. In short, don’t give up the fight. Help others to succeed as well. We’re all in this together.

           13. It is a sad state of affairs. One must ask themselves, did this occur naturally or was it by design. What group grows ever more powerful, safe and prosperous as others like Europeans experience rapid decline.

           14. ZOG and its co-conspirators…
               R>

182. Men vs Women
     West vs East
     White vs Black
     The elites are drinking their wine and singing “FOOLS” …

     1. What’s the answer?

        1. There is only the Will to Power and the mortal struggle. Sperm is cheap, eggs are expensive.

           1. Do you believe we could apply critical theory to Feminism? So create the opposite of a dialectical argument to basically destroy it? Perhaps that could be the next struggle of NeoMasculinity.

           2. We are going to have to, but it must be alongside a tangible physical component of power. Many women will follow power and ignore words.

           3. What I’m driving at is this: once you make on group militant, the other must respond in kind. It will not unilaterally disarm. So there is an arms race; women were tribalized, so men are producing an equal and opposite race. Same with the races. Once this arms race begins, you cannot unring the bell. The OP stated that we are playing into the elite’s hands and I agree; but my pragmatic question is- who has the motivation and incentive to restore the balance? I think there is no answer to it.

           4. Moldbug’s Neoreaction movement is good in this regard. However it lacks the power that NeoMasculinity will provide and a cohesive metaphysical structure.

        2. The answer is to undo the issues I mentioned above, men & women, west & east, white & black needs to work collaboratively, working collaboratively means exchanging ideas, the more ideas the more problem solvers.

           1. It’s like breaking up a cafeteria brawl.

     2. left v right
        my generation v your generation
        nationalist v globalist
        traditional marriage v gay debauchery
        … If it’s one thing Americans excel at, it’s infighting. We fall for false equivalencies just for the sake of the drama.
        Here’s how most of those struggles should have gone down.
        … No, (fill in the blank) has never been beneficial to civilization throughout recorded history.

        1. What is the superimposing trait for the fall of all the great ancient civilizations? Babylon, Egypt, the Greek City States, Rome? An international cartel that worked within their socio-political infrastructure; it was international, it was monetary, and it developed the economic incentive to bring in mass hordes of immigrants which eventually destroyed the stock indigenous culture root and branch. Hmmm. I do not want to say this name. So I will not. I prefer to place conjectures like this into GREEK…
           R>

183. 1)Roosh decided he was European and was all sorts of a racist
     2)Whites politely reminded him he was not and now he is trying to get other non whites on his side. Divide and conquer.
     3)It is only a matter of time before he will be discovered by militaristic Eastern Europeans and will brutally beaten up for promoting ethnic sex tourism.
     Anyone who is genuinely rooting for men’s cause should ignore this and stop probably reading rok and rf altogether. This shit is becoming ridiculous and in no way will help you to get laid with women.

     1. NeoM is beyond just getting laid. It was a mistake to let infrequent guest writers sneak irrelevant attacks on different races into articles on every subject. They should be removed immediately. They’re the ones who created this clusterf*ck. I wish Roosh didn’t get sucked into the whole migrant issue which was and is a total fraud. He’s distancing himself now from it because the people involved are dregs, obvious from their actions, and restoring the focus on male self-improvement. Where it should be.

        1. “They should be removed immediately.” Geez, you sound just like a Social Justice Warrior. You go to Heartiste’s site and get triggered by what he says, then you come to this site and get triggered here. Anything that triggers you should be immediately removed… How fucking narcissistic can you get? You’re like a little girl on a college campus crying for her safe space.

           1. Trigger, Trigger, Trigger. Don’t you gutter-dwellers have any original remarks to make that actually refer to the message you’re responding to? Go ahead, have the last word 🙂 Not worth my time to hear your next non sequitir.

        2. Yes, forget about real world issues and our future. Lets go back to driving that wedge between the sexes as a mirrored feminist hate like movement for men. Got to keep those goyim divided, conquered and completely clueless.

     2. This isn’t about getting laid anymore. It’s far beyond that.

184. As his income falls, Roosh is trying to rebrand Alt-Rightism as “Neo-Masculinity” and then pretend that he can supply all his audience’s Alt-Right needs, with the added bonus of his kebabness serving as a talisman against charges of ‘racism.’
     Yes, he is literally going for the pussy end of the vast Alt-Right spectrum.
     However, even with ripping off ideas from the real alt-right he is still too mentally under-provisioned to pull that off, and the flow of ex-ROKers moving to the wider Alt-Right will continue.

     1. Alt-right is a fucking joke. The fact that they ally with feminists is fucking disgusting. What a bunch of idiots who stand for nothing.

     2. Quality is better than quantity.

     3. Maybe you didn’t read the article. He doesn’t want to recruit AltRight to NeoM. He wants them to slink back to the gutter. The 95% of the ROK audience is too important to sacrifice to the bitter few. AltRight isn’t about whites being proud; people can be proud without assailing and acting against those that aren’t them.

185. In defense of the Alt Right I will say that as a man who consorts with non white women, they are very tolerant of me. Additionally many in the Alt Right crowd consort with a variety of non white or mystery meat women. The problem is that I suppose like all movements you will be able to cherry pick out extremists. I would point out that it is the biological imperative of a groups males to defend a groups females from out group members. This is just biology and every group is allowed to do it except European AKA white males. You have obviously decided that white women are the best looking in the world. The exception being those who have been poisoned by western Cultural Marxist culture. Otherwise you would be in Latin America or Asia chasing tail. You have a strong dislike of Asian women, yet from your writing you seem to take great pride in defiling Nordic, and Slavic women. The thing that drove me into the Alt Right in the first place was the complete hypocrisy that is shown toward white men when every other group of men are allowed to pursue their own ethnic interests and rub the noses of white men in their sexual conquest of white women. Perhaps that’s why I play conquistador so much. And yes I have had my fair share of Persian women for the sole purpose of cucking their men.

     1. Any kind of men who mate-guard are lame m’lady white knights – of any race. Don’t aspire to pull the same as sh*t as douchebags of other races.

186. I should add I use to be an avid reader of ROK but found so much of the articles to lack any scientific rigor or statistical backing. I have met many in the ROK community and find that many of them are full of shit. They don’t get with women like they say they do. I have been out with a good deal of alt righters and can attest they tend to not make women their sole objective and in the process this seems to give them an edge with the ladies. That being said there are a fair share of autistes in the alt right. In some ways I could blame ROK for ruining one of the best relationships in my life with one of the few girls who I have genuinely had a connection with as ROK has horrible relationship advice. ROK also led me to do a good deal of out group philandering and led me into some stupid situations. Morale of story you are not going to be happy unless you have kids that look like you and identify with you. So all your PUA energies are best spent gaming women who look like you.

     1. Okay, you go back to the alt right then. Good luck to you.

     2. You’re blaming ROK for ruining your relationship??

187. I don’t self-identify as a White Nationalist, NatSoc, or as a member of any other pro-white movement. I’ve never visited a white supremacist website, and I am the son of an immigrant not native to this continent. This article is so poorly conceived and self destructive to the integrity of RoK’s readership, I can’t believe the ball has been dropped so hard. Articles that are skeptical of whites and white identity are directly contributing to the narrative of the enemy. The hour is getting late, and white men are not going to tolerate this any more. By all means, fuck ethnic women, breed with them, but fuck white women and breed with them more, and try to create an environment where the garbage genes of humanity are selected out of existence.
     There are many great tribes, cultures that have thrived when in an ethnocentric, traditional environment. There have been blips of greatness for short periods on the journey through history, but the world’s greatest of these, which have consistently pioneered the most beneficial advances in science, medicine, philosophy, creativity, art, architecture, exploration, have been Western European. There have been contributions along the way, but Western civilization has remained the dominant force in these areas for the greater part of the last two millennia. This is objective fact, and not up for debate. As others have said, the subjects we talk about day in and day out on this website are the tenants of Western society. To say that this is entirely separate from demographics, and genetics is such an amazing accomplishment in self delusion and denial of reality.
     It strikes me as odd that the vast majority of readers on this website will agree that women are objectively not as capable in many ways compared to men, effectively stating that half of the human race is not equal to the other, but they are not comfortable with saying one ethnic group is objectively inferior/superior to another, e.g. Australian Aboriginal are clearly intellectually inferior to Persians. The Sumerians, then Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, etc, all had thriving civilizations for centuries because they had a balance of good behaviors and philosophies. These traits, as well as genetics migrated west, combining with other gene pools that were highly selected for intelligence as well.
     There are many anecdotes that don’t follow the trend – these are outliers in the data. They are interesting, but not indicative of a greater picture at all: The highly intelligent black man, the strikingly beautiful American Indian woman, the Irishman without a genetic predilection for alcohol, (Hah!) etc.
     And yes, we all know that Jews and Asians are equally and in some measures more intellectual than many whites, I would posit this as a result over representation in higher education by work of racial nepotism but I ask you where are the monolithic Jewish or Asian civilizations whose culture has dominated the globe, that not only contributed to the aspects of civilization, but developed the measures to which we judge the term “civilization” itself? These cultures have incredibly malicious xenophobia that values the supremacy of their own people as a collective above all else. They lack altruism and the value for the individual that is needed to make a society great.
     Indeed, it is altruism and sense of individuality that make whites so great. Of course every race is xenophobic. Yet even white xenophobia didn’t stop them from sharing medicine, technology and “civilization” to other races and tribes, when migrating to their lands. Leaving these things behind when colonialism was abandoned, not by military might, but through manipulation of that sense of altruism through guilt and international pressure – leaving the natives to squander what they were left with, to starve, commit genocide and die of preventative disease, making their lives just as bad as they were when they were warring tribes selling each other into slavery.
     There is a growing world-wide hatred of whites which is tied directly to the narrative of immigration from the third world into Europe & the Americas. The source is from a desire of cultural revenge, racial hatred and envy, perpetuated by certain elites and swallowed by whites due to the manipulation of facts and the sense of altruism we have for people outside of our own race.
     Whites are objectively the greatest major ethnic group on the planet and have contributed most to the benefit and progress of humanity as a species throughout history, but we have recently given that up due to our penchant for negative introspection and short sighted altruism. EVERY group is going to identify with its own, but only in the case of whites is this objectively a good thing for the whole of humanity. Shut the fuck up and get out of the way if you’re not going to help.

     1. Your misunderstanding is that we cannot have race realism without the nonsense deductions and action points of AltRight which assumes that because of these differences, you shouldn’t mate across race. You should forbid non-whites from coming to this country. None of that passes muster here because it is illogical; should you forbid people from mating based on their IQ level. How much do you want to control breeding exactly? Finally, white societies did not achieve economic dominance until colonization in the 1700s; before then India and China had over 50% of the world GDP. Unsurprisingly, afterwards they had something like below 20%. Facts are stubborn things.

188. White women won’t keep their legs closed.
     Now watch the alt right react!
     LOL

189. Sieg Heil Brown Bitches
     I’m with the Whites or I’m with the jews. Either Whites win, or i want y’all to LOSE.
     It’ll either be a White mans world, of fuck it the jews can have it. No self respecting White man will be fighting this thing until the Blacks and Browns are removed.

190. To clear things up,
     KEBAB =/= ROOSH
     KEBAB = “SYRIAN” RAPEFUGEES WHO DID COLOGNE, + ALL OTHER TERRORIST SCUM THE WORLD OVER (PARIS, SAN BERNARDINO, ISIS, ANTI-ASSAD REBELS ETC. ETC.)

     1. The ”White women are innocent princesses” mindset is a very, very small subset of White nationalism, found mostly on Renegade (and even there’s it’s not that extreme, but whatever). The rest of us are perfectly aware that modern White women have a lot of problems, which is why we support traditional gender roles. We basically have the same opinion about women as you, but we want to actually fix the problem, not contribute to the downfall by having sex with degenerate bar sluts, which is what PUAs are doing.

     2. What about the Dalton shootings? White mass shooters have killed more Americans than Muslims. White drunk drivers have killed far more Americans than ISIS. “Kebab” is a giveaway of a bitter sexually frustrated white, that’s all. While you claim to fear terrorists (who are less a threat to you than drunk drivers), the real source of your anger is that white women you think belong to you are sleeping with thugs and players. There’s nothing you can do about that.

191. Priorities.
     #1
     Reinstate Nationalism (strong male leadership)
     #2
     Reinstate this for all nations
     Result.
     Ethnicity is restored to its geographical locations.

192. At some point sexual conduct will be restrained. The simple reality is that both women and men will run amok if allowed to run amok. If they run amok, it ruins the civilization until either
     A) a reformation of some kind takes place (Ie when australia compelled all women to marry)
     B) a less broken/stronger civilization comes in and takes over. (What is currently happening to the West)
     Im not going to bother listing all the damage sexual chaos causes, Mr. Valizadeh has already done a much better job of that than I can.
     Re: miscegenation. Personally I would leave that up to individual communities. As someone who gre up with the Constitution, I am a big believer in letting groups figure things out on their own.

193. Many of you are losing sight of Roosh’s central idea: many within the Alt-Right employed the same dishonest rhetoric used by the SJWs. This is no different than the establishment conservatives using the “Tea Party is racist” narrative to attack Tea Party candidates (See the Thad Cochran campaign). A variation of this is the way the establishment conservatives used dishonest arguments to attack Ron Paul and his supporters. This is a problem.
     If you are going to attack a person then attack his ideas and avoid the ad hominems, especially if they are not substantiated by anything. The SJWs employ these types of arguments and Roosh pointed out that many within the Alt-Right picked up the very tools that are used against us all and ran with this. That’s not right. Form reasoned arguments and address the ideas.

194. This is the prime issue with mass movements. Most people i.e. the mob, are incapable of seeing the big picture. They cannot conceptualise original ideas without propaganda from their leaders. The leader then gains control through this and exploits the mob for the ‘good’ of the movement. However to control such a force is a another matter hence they become easily subverted.
     For Neomasculinity to succeed, the nationalist component must be separated from racialism. The West is a majority white civilisation with a handful of minorities who are loyal to the values of the nation. That is all to it. To succumb to base feelings of racial superiority will undoubtedly lead to mob rule, ochlocracy and the destructive effects that arise from it.
     Hence we must focus on quality over quantity. If you aren’t a man with skills and virtues, then you’re an useful idiot.

     1. That’s not quite it. Alt Right has leaders. They elevate the self-importance of mediocre whites- this is its underlying reality. Mob rule can exist with our without racial superiority; movements of racial superiority can be mob-like or hierarchical and organized. Western society is not controlled by aryans. Its top athletes are not aryans. The groups that earn the highest income are not aryans. Lets move beyond a racial pride which has no meaning today.

        1. Of course, I agree to this. However, racialism is by far the easiest way to stir up the mob. Values are intangible but the pigment of your skin is real. Thus distinguishing it between others requires little thinking on part of the person. For any man, racial pride deserves sentiment but no significance in day-to-day dealings.

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196. My God. What the hell happened to the comments section? The ragespittle is so deep I can feel it seeping through my fucking socks. Can we not act like a bunch of retards and maybe focus on self-improvement and embarrassing feminists and SJWs for five minutes, please? Every man is entitled to his opinion, and it’s a sign of maturity if you read and disagree with it, yet act like a fucking grown up and respect that it might be different to yours, and it’s not the end of your tiny world if it is.

     1. The Justin Bieber wing of stormfront is making drama about their teenage angst. Give it a day or two and they will crawl back under their rocks.

197. Roosh, watch out not to shoot yourself into the foot. I’ll bet a million that the vast majority of your readers and fans is white and lately you won many of them by supporting pro-white and right-wing stuff at RoK. Actually I think most them accepted you as white or honorary-white. Even from a libertinage p.o.v. you should take an interest in the future of “White Societies”, as the freedom you enjoy is only possible in them and was made possible by them. How much this freedom has gone too far and is destroying them by now is a totally legitimate question.
     I had the impression that you where beginning to understand this, with the help of your friend Quintus Curtius, whose approach is far more consistent. As you said yourself in your neo-masculine manifesto, which aimed to provide an “antidote for males who are being programmed to accept Western degeneracy, mindless consumerism, and immoral state authority.”
     It seems that you haven’t quite understood what “Western degeneracy” actually consists of. Or how much the “consumerism” mentality also applies to the sexual market. You want to have your cake and eat it.
     That is understandable to some degree, and many young guys who come here have yet to undergo the rite of passage of learning and understanding “Game” (which leads to experience of Red Pill issues), yet there is a bigger picture which still leaves many questions open. This attack against your WN and other critics is a huge step backwards…

     1. ROK will continue to slam feminists, SJWs. But give me a break- “Western dengeracy”?- you probably think that applies to PUA. Consumerism can be applied to the sexual marketplace– lol. This is how you attempt to desperately tie together disparate issues to make it seem like a manosphere issue. ROK will do just fine with whites; even if it has to tell the 5% bottom-feeder losers to GTFO.

198. Remove Kebab!

199. I am a man who believes there is only one defining factor for people:
     Achievement. Nothing else.
     Our western culture is for example an achievement. As such it should be protected and supported.
     However, things that you just so happen to be born with are NOT achievements. Just based on these things you do not have a monopoly over culture or any other achievement.
     You can only achieve monopoly over achievements like culture by supporting and partaking in it.
     If you actually are a threat to such things as culture it is obviously best to prevent you from being one.
     This too goes into the defining factor for people. There are people, despite being born to a specific culture, that reject and are even a threat to that culture.
     As such it is the logical conclusion, again, that these people do not deserve to be part of a culture just by happening to be born into it.
     The logical conclusion is that even IF you aren’t born into a specific culture but yet you happen to relish it, protect and advance it you can claim to be part of it with everything that goes alongside it.
     Note: It is NOT a great achievement for a women to work. The greatest achievement for women, also according to their nature, is being a good mother.

200. >American women are useless, terrible, and good only for sex
     >wait, he’s having sex with our terrible American women? BRING ME MY SWORD AND SHIELD!
     /pol/ is once again not always right. 🙁