The first book I read after the meetup outrage in February 2016 was Sworn In Secret, which detailed how the Knights Templar and Freemasons operated through secret societies. Since the ideas that we hold are too dangerous to the ruling establishment, I wanted to see if it would make sense for us to go underground as well.
The book begins with the story of the Knights Templar. They were a secret group of militant monks who swore an oath to provide safe passage to Christians on their pilgrimages to the Holy Land after the first successful Crusade gave the Vatican control over Jerusalem. This group of men, often the second or third-born sons of noble families, grew to become a highly skilled army that only answered to the Pope. They quickly amassed incredible power throughout Europe as they implemented various banking and logistical innovations of the time.
They swore to act in a more holy manner than many of their rough-hewn fellow Crusaders, and took vows of poverty, chastity, and obedience.
[…]
…instead of remaining isolated behind abbey walls their mission required them to be active in the world with sword in hand, fighting against any who attacked Christians in the Holy Land. This combination of religious peace and military action was relatively new in the West, but not in the East. For many years Muslim warriors had already managed to combine devotions with annihilations to a significant degree.
In order to fund their operations, the group sought alms from the richest men of Europe in the name of defending Christianity. Kings, lords, and noblemen answered the call, giving the Knights Templar over 800 valuable estates that allowed them to raise significant amounts of money. It’s in these estates, particularly in Jerusalem’s Temple Mount, where it’s claimed that the Knights Templar discovered numerous holy relics that gave them mystical powers. This further added to their aura of holiness and strength.
Their vows did not allow them to enrich themselves personally. Nor could they establish a dynasty for their heirs, as others had done across the continent. These men used their formidable power only in the service of pilgrims and God. This endeared them to lords and commons alike.
[…]
The Grand Master and brothers of the red cross showed on the battlefields of the Holy Land that they were prepared to fight to the last man and die in battle. It was the nature of their chosen path in life, and they accepted it. It permeated their entire brotherhood, even down to the person who only saddled the knight’s horse. They seemed to feel they could do no less than their brothers who had already died keeping their vows. This was part of the Templar mystique that cast a spell on members of the public. There was the feeling that Templars were part of something worthy, something greater than themselves, and it was addictive.
They swore to defend each other in the face of danger in a “no man left behind” oath. Many of their entire platoons were wiped out because they refused to leave a single Templar in harm’s way.
[Their] oaths were taken by all the brothers, from highest to lowest, creating the beginning of a bond between them. As the years passed and those vows were kept, even in life-and-death situations, trust would have deepened. By all accounts the Templars were notoriously firm about living up to their obligations. They did not leave a wounded brother upon the field, nor retreat while the battle was still being fought.
[…]
If one knight’s horse died in battle, and the man faced imminent death on foot with the enemy on every side, no other knight was allowed to leave the field of battle. The nearest knight was obliged by stubborn honor to fly to the aid of his brother, no matter the cost.
The Templars swore oaths of secrecy that kept their business practices and other plans completely concealed, not only from the public but even their own members. Unless you were high up in the organization, you only possessed a small picture of the group’s activities.
They believed that the lives of their brethren and the life of their Order hinged on keeping their secrets, even unto death. A leaked word about battle plans could kill a brother just as surely as leaving them alone on the battlefield.
The same institution that helped form the Knights Templar also lent a decisive hand in destroying them. The King of France, Philip IV, with support from the Vatican, launched a witch hunt against the Templars on a Friday the 13th using trumped-up charges (it is thought that Philip wanted to reduce their power and get out of debts owed to them). He captured and tortured 140 Templars in France. The Pope then rendered the group illegal, even though they were still beloved by the population. Members were forced to escape from lands controlled by the Pope or go underground.
Given that there were approximately 4000 brothers in the Templar Order before the sudden arrests on the 13th of October— and only about 500 of those men appeared in the official records of arrests and trials in the East and West— what happened to the 3500 others?
The book then attempts to make the connection that the Knights Templar provided the seed for another secret society that still exists today, the Freemasons. While the Freemasons originally came out of the masonry builders lodges of England and Scotland, it is thought that they took inspiration, rituals, and relics from the Knights Templar.
The Freemasons would eventually come to wield massive power on their own, especially when you consider that the founding of the United States was guided by men who were Freemasons, such as Sam Adams, Paul Revere, John Hancock, Benjamin Franklin, and George Washington. This is why symbols of the United States government, like the dollar bill and the layout of Washington DC, feature Freemasonry patterns.
During the course of the war, almost fifty percent of all the generals who served under Washington were Masons. That was an extraordinary number because the highest figure I have ever seen reported for Masons in the USA was about nine percent of the male population. In a similar manner, this society was well represented among the founding fathers of the United States. Thirty-three percent of the signers of the Constitution were Masons.
Over the years, Freemasons have developed a variety of rituals and beliefs that some may consider occult. Just like how the Knights Templar got their special “powers” from ancient relics, it’s thought that high-level Freemasons get theirs from praying to special deities.
Baphomet devil goat
Theories that they are a part of the “Illuminati” are common. The author of this book doesn’t dive into those accusations, probably because he’s a Freemason himself.
Freemasonry had thrived for hundreds of years because it was based on bonds between men. Those bonds had enabled brothers to survive the many acts of excessive violence by leaders of nations and religions against them. This was the driving force that brought Freemasonry into existence, and caused it to grow stronger over the decades.
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…one of the hallmarks of Freemasonry was that its members joined together to protect themselves from the arbitrary acts of powerful men.
This book was an informative reminder that if you want to create a force multiplier among men who share the same beliefs, the best way to do it is organize and swear oaths of both secrecy and loyalty. If your beliefs go against those of the most elite members of your society, you may not have any other choice. I had to learn the hard way when I tried to organize rather innocent happy hours for me and my followers. Multiple institutions that back the ruling establishment made it clear that that wouldn’t be allowed. This book confirmed to me that operating in secret will be essential.
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All Catholic and Orthodox Christians incur excommunication for becoming Freemasons. Both churches see it as antichristian.
Freemasonry is aligned with leftism, Socialism, and atheistic revolution. It’s basically a “COEXIST” cult.
If your Catholic, look to Knights of Columbus, Knights of Malta, and Knights of Holy Sepulchre.
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I wasn’t familiar with ‘COEXIST’ but a helpful soul called the The Ignorant Fisherman has provided an explanation
“It seems like everywhere you look these days while driving on the road – especially on college campuses – an odd-phrased bumper sticker with religious symbols spelling “COEXIST” can be seen. This phrase contains the spiritual ideologies of the major world religions.
Every letter in the “COEXIST” phrase has a symbol representing a religious system or spiritual ideology: “C” for the crescent and star (representing Islam); “O” being dotted with the Karma Wheel (Buddhism) “E” as energy in the relativity equation (Science); “X” illustrating the star of David (Judaism); the “I” representing the pentagram
(Wicca/Pagan); “S” for the Tao symbol; and “T” for the cross for Christianity.
The goal of this movement is the promotion of a
pluralistic and universal utopian worldview. At the heart of this movement is the abandonment of core absolutes and values (moral and spiritual.) This movement seeks to undermine personal beliefs and practices for the supposed “betterment” of world unification. Its most damnable feature, however, is the staunch rejection of the sovereignty and reality of Almighty God, His authoritative Word (the Bible), and His Savior to all fallen men, the Lord Jesus Christ (John 14:6; Acts 4:12; 1 John 2:22-23). The chief Promoter of this godless ecumenical movement is the godless music industry and the pop icon Bono from the band U2.
Hollywood and the fashion industry also promote this movement with an array of clothing products, gear and bumper stickers. A phrase from the Coexist website states, “Coexist is a concept brand for everyone, connecting people and planet, together we symbolize life, love
and global harmony.”
So, it turns out Bono is the cunt behind it the conspiracy of the ages
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2349665/posts
I want COEXISTS.
One more S for the flying spaghetti monster.
You’d be more interested in the ‘O’ side of thing that the other bits probably. To be honest I did wonder whether you were a mason
Me, a Mason? How would someone who hates groupthink as much as me possibly be that?
I once sexted with a girl on Facebook who claimed to be a Mason. She told me I should not write with her, because she and her friends worship Satan. I said “Who cares” and then I told her how I would cum in her ass. She did not protest, heh.
well, I guess i thought you must be some kind of freemasonic black sheep who liked the thrill of never knowing if you’d say something that would get you hiram abiffed?
I think for satanists cumming in a girl’s arse is actually vanilla
True. I must think of something more drastic next time.
C for Cthulhu, why worship a lesser evil…
You can’t not prove that he unexists on Friday. Or can you?
Islam comes first, Christianity last makes a lot more sense now.
The question is when does forced equality become oppression???
From the start.
yes it does, but quite not sure why it should though
http://www.barenakedislam.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/coexist-e1436058179540.png
Bono is a joo
His real name is Paul David Hewson
He rallied against Boer/ white South Africans having their own Nation and State and separate living space ala Apartheid ( means just living apart) after they alone created a first world empire, but says nothing about ” the Jewish state” or the Concentration camp that is Gaza
The truth about “COEXIST”
Three responses: 😉
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Notice that Hinduism isn’t included 😉
I would have thought there would be Shiva / Shakti nexus in there somewhere though
No traditional Indo-European religion is included in these projects because these religions are fundamentally reality based, not idealism based, and hence they are opposed to the dream of creating Heaven on earth (what realists understand is actually Hell on earth).
Christianity/Islam/Buddhism are, as idealism based missionary doctrines, inherently non-pluralistic by nature and globalist in practice, and hence lend themselves easily to global government projects – they differ on the method of the cure (the gospel vs the sword vs nonviolent demonstrative acts), not the prognosis (lack of centrally dictated morality) or the cure (global morality dictating state).
Romanism/Avestanism/Hinduism are/were opposed to centralisation and consolidation, and hence were targeted by maniac centralisers for destruction – in the case where destruction failed, Hinduism was simply excluded by the statists.
That’s a very interesting analysis. I don’t know enough about hinduism etc to make a judgement on the issue. I think some of the ideas / mythology of eastern religions – e.g. shiva / shakti etc are incorporated into some varieties of occultism perhaps in the spirit of eclecticism more than anything. I agree very much that the dream of creating heaven on earth is a recipe for creating its opposite, and that appears to be the principle gnostic legacy to humanity. Re. the missionary / evangelical zeal of christianity/islam/buddhism I think you are both right and wrong. Any idea that is held as good may be subject to evangelising, universalising tendencies. The issue with the great religions (at least christianity / islam) is that they have tended to be reducible to doctrine / dogma. This is what has made them useful as form of organisation that could be bent towards imperial (or global governmental) purpose.
Re. Christianity there a further tension: creating heaven on earth (or bringing heaven down to earth) has been primarily found in messianic / millenialist offshots, for example post-reformation puritan movements which saw the english civil war for instance as an opportunity to bring about Godly rule and the return of the messiah. To the extent that that is not the case organised Christianity and creating heaven and earth should perhaps be kept separate
John 8:44
Rev 2:9
Thats why the correct answer is Mormon- MORMON.- Southpark
Why would a group that requires its members to be theists “align with … atheistic revolution”, whatever that word salad might actually imply?
And leftism and Socialism, being political philosophies, have absolutely nothing to do with Masonry, which unless you’re one of those French weirdos, is avowedly apolitical.
I would wager it’s to ensure the dominance of the inner circle.
Most organizations become populated by the power-hungry.
Examples:
Military, has people who answer to politicians in the upper ranks.They are psychopaths, essentially, the Privates and Corporals and Sergeants killed – are mere numbers. Officers are essentially not chosen from the ranks, but prepared (indoctrinated) to send the plebes to their deaths, to win “the hill” or such objectives…
Police: Hey, watch the news. Ugly stuff. But what do you expect when cops who ARE vile scumbags get away with things which would send the rest of us to prison indefinitely? There will be a reckoning – and likely not on the bad ones. But the “few bad apples” logic falls apart when you realize that the “good” ones don’t turn in the bad ones (those who do, quickly become “ex-cops” one way or another. Dead or discharged. You don’t rat out the brotherhood…) Note that even the cops fired for misconduct get re-hired as cops elsewhere…
Corporations are likely the most common, though. How many have worked for a big, well-run corporation? I have worked in several… The Business makes ridiculous demands on the other groups, and IT usually gets the shortest straw. A job that would take 12 people working normal hours, and the top-notch people at that, with a 12-month development window for a good product, will be staffed (at half or less the “COST”) with offshored resources who need their hands held the whole time, there will be a team of 6 if you’re lucky, and the hardware and test tools? Fugedaboudit! “No money” for that.
So the half-assed “product” is delivered, runs hot from Day 1, spends more time down than working, and costs now 5-10 times what it should – but the Business counts it as a “win” and bills the TEAMS who are fixing their mess!
And EVERY. Company, Is, The. Same.
So it’s a human defect. Get something for nothing, screw who you can. Crabs in the crab trap, pulling each other down…
See also the Monkey and Banana experiment (which is being done to us, slightly differently.)
Group of monkeys, in a cage, and a banana is suspended from top of cage. But if any monkeys go for it, they all get hosed with water, harshly. Eventually, they’ll beat any monkey who goes for the banana.
Start swapping out monkeys from the original troupe, put in new ones. The old troupe members will beat that monkey if he should go for the banana. Repeat often enough, and you have swapped out the whole original troupe – and none of the original monkeys, who know about the hosing, are there any more. Yet none of the new ones will go for the banana, because the other monkeys beat them.
The human version is, we age out about every 20 years. Look at the prices for thins in the 80s, and the 90s, and the 00s. And look now as we head towards the 2020 mark. I was born 1975; started to notice this mid-90s. But my peers are dealing with families now, the sacrifice of having (caring for) children. Starting college funds… Trying to get up in the hierarchy… making a living, making house payments, etc. Their pay hasn’t kept up with the demands. Meaning, real value of the dollars is declining. But their kids won’t really notice the costs of things until they’re going on or just over 20….
And by 40, they’ve invested in that Matrix… Painful to see your life has been a puppet show, and you’re the meat puppet… Most decisions taken out of your hands, except the trivial stuff…. You can choose Levis or Lee – but you’re wearing jeans… Armani or Gucci… But you’re wearing a suit (Or spending for that purse, ladies.)
Oh, Men’s Wearhouse? You’re one of the Little People. (And we don’t talk about off-the-rack anyway…)
Keep the majority of the organization in the dark, and you minimize risk. Make yourself seem unimportant, too… No one knows the leadership exists…. (Well, who it is, really.)
Think it through. After all, revolutions are costly (in terms of time lost, production loss, “whole crops [can be] lost”…)
You really think about it, you’ll notice… There ARE groups who are moving levers of power. They’ve “made a deal with the Devil” (metaphorically) to get that power, and they HOPE they won’t be expended too soon. But it’s really all about them…. and most are going to be insulated enough that they cannot be touched. think Hitlery: If any of us had done that – say a Marine, or NSA contractor, or Army General – there’d be HELL to pay, and we’d be in prison or exile or executed. But it’s Hillary, so… No prosecution recommended. Had it been a Trump supporter, would we ever stop hearing about it….?
We’re being domesticated, same as the monkeys. But we’re smarter than they are….
Maybe we just need to force them to change the plan? Or make things not GO according to plan…?
Break their OODA loop completely, make a home-grown “Metal Storm” or similar, and “demonstrate” that we will NOT be abused any longer….
Getting time to water the tree – and take out those behind the scenes. ALL of them. Just no other option. Any head of the hydra that appears, prune it – even should two grow back, it’ll fall apart under its own weight, eventually. Note there may be personal cost involved – we’d have to take risks, might get injured along the way.
But the alternative is eventually slavery – and we were told this, “1984” is all but their instruction manual, so – we get fit, we learn to shoot, we get out there and take interest in politics because either way, it’ll take interest in us – and women are, categorically, too stupid to get it anyway. (They have a different play book, but it only works on the “family” level. Men work in different ways, and we build civilizations… Women make a codependent mess of psychodrama holding everyone together.)
All of those knights were slaughtered on the 13th, FRIDAY the 13th. This is why that day is considered bad luck. All of the knights wore white goalie masks too
Really! I didn’t know hockey was so old.
they had ice back in the 1400s
Plastic, too?
of course. or did you think the Atari 1400 was made of stone?
You mean Madonna??
Damn, right before the weekend. That must suck.
yup, they missed happy hour
Did someone say “happy hour”?
“yup, they missed happy hour”
I guess their severed heads could be called a “Knight cap”
Poor old Jacques Molay spent his Friday night getting roasted
Better than a Monday though. That would ruin your whole week.
No white goalies masks, idiot. Ice wasn’t invented for thousands of years after that.
My grandfather was a Mason. He told me how they got their special powers.
Curious but not very well researched short article, more like a book review.
The Templars were targeted due to the king not having remotely close to the funds required to repay his debts, but more specifically to confiscate their property and remove them from the political scene. There is little doubt about this.
Most modern Masonic lodges are little more than geriatric men’s clubs these days, visit one to check it out yourself. Yes they further the careers of their brothers, who wouldn’t given the chance?
One day the final plan will be completed, and De Molay will finally rest avenged.
So are they both “little more than geriatric men’s clubs’ as well as a loosely established organisation working towards a final goal?
Final goal? What goal? Doesn’t look like its working, unless its the destruction of western, masculine culture.
In which case they’re doing a fantastic job.
that may well be one of the goals.
In order to create you first have to destroy.
Note that I said “most”. Not all lodges are geriatric men’s clubs but by far the most are.
Very few know where the real action is ;-).
Go on…
What is the final plan?
check out the Rosslyn Chapel. Its absolutely beautiful
http://www.sacred-destinations.com/scotland/rosslyn-chapel
That is where the remainder of knights after Jacque demolay’s execution on Friday the 13th housed themselves in. They apparently helped repell the remainder of English troops under Edward III, fighting for Robert the Bruce. This becoming the Scottish rite
Is there no help for the widows son?
I prefer the three stooges. You must be a mason
Roosh, if you are interested in the relationship between secret societies and the NWO check out the works of Nesta Webster:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nesta_Helen_Webster
The Knights in the Crusades sought only to reclaim lands stolen by Islamists!
Lands taken by force and by sword. Christianity was spread in peace, Islam by force.
A certain amount of operational security is required. I don’t think I’d look to secret societies for that. Vox Day is doing some of that with his brainstorm groups. I think a better model would be some of the more modern day spy craft types of activities. Since much of the communication is via the web, it’s all out in the open. So setting up meetups like what Roosh and Cernovich do needs some different mechanism. What that would be I’m not sure.
Perhaps ciphers using some manosphere literature? EG “Bang” 4-3-2 would be the second word on the third line on page 4.
The goal of the Jewish Masonic elite is to establish dictatorial Illuministic Communism and to enslave all of mankind under the thumb of a Jewish master race led by a world messiah who is to rule from Jerusalem.
An essential element in this grandiose plan is the Masonic plot to blow up and destroy Islam’s golden-domed monument now sitting on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, despised by Orthodox Jewish rabbis and the secularist Masonic Illuminists alike.
On the heap of its ruins, the Masons intend to build a Jewish Masonic temple where they and their satanically energized messiah shall worship and pay homage to the Egyptian double-headed eagle deity, Mammon-Ra, the god of money and prosperity (Daniel 11:37-39).
The Jews are beset with an unbridled ambition—a consuming desire to acquire global power and establish once and for all their long-delayed Zionist Kingdom on planet earth.
Freemasonry is Jewish Magic
One of the unheralded and least known facts about Freemasonry and the Masonic Lodge is its Jewish origins and nature. The religion of Judaism, based on the Babylonian Talmud, and the Jewish Cabala (or, Kabala), an alchemical system of magic and deviltry, form the basis for the Scottish Rite’s 33 ritual degree ceremonies.
Thus, The Jewish Tribune of New York, on October 28, 1927, stated;
“Masonry is based on Judaism. Eliminate the teachings of Judaism from the Masonic Ritual and what is left?”
The well known rabbi, Isaac Wise, was emphatic when he concluded: “Freemasonry is a Jewish establishment, whose history, grades, official appointments, passwords, and explanations are Jewish from beginning to end.”
The idolatrous image of the double-headed eagle—shown here on the cover of Albert Pike’s classic text, Morals and Dogma—is a much-treasured symbol of Jewish Masons. It represents the Babylonian god of money and forces, Mammon-Ra, as well as the Hegelian dialectical process practiced by the Jewish elite. This same symbol is the “Masonic Jewel” awarded high-level Masons initiated into the 33rd degree.
In the classic treatise of the Masons, Morals and Dogma, authored by the late Sovereign Grand Commander of the Scottish Rite, Albert Pike, we discover the revelation that the Jewish cabala is the very basis of Masonic practice and ritual and that the cabalistic “Theology of the Sephiroth” is at the root of all Masonic knowledge. This, admits Pike, is “high magic,” the “Sacerdotal Art,” and the “Royal Art.”
The Jewish cabalistic nature of Masonry is demonstrated by the Lodge’s odd view of evil. Pike writes: “The true name of Satan, the Kabalists say, is that of Yahweh reversed; for Satan is not a black god, but the negation of God…For the Initiates, this is not a Person, but a Force, created for good, but which may serve for evil. It is the instrument of Liberty and Free Will.”
As for Lucifer, the alternate name for the Devil, the former Sovereign Grand Commander frankly admits that he, Lucifer, is a good angel, and a divine god worthy of our esteemed worship. “Doubt it not!,” Pike commands.
Yes
The thing about Masonry is that it requires a lot of semitic mentality, and a big dose of dualistic thinking. Both things are repellant to me.
I realized you were trolling at “Mammon-Ra.”
LOL. Maybe he meant Ammon-Ra ? That’s a legit ancient Egyptian God.
The Nights Templar did no disappear from all of Europe. In Portugal they were essentially nationalized and become part of the Crown as the Order of Our Lord Jesus Christ by King D Dinis in 1319.
They became pivotal to our expansion starting in the XV century. Now, its a civil award given by the state.
wouldn’t that have been in defiance of papal edict?
The Papal edict, which was forced upon the Pope by the King of France, dissolved the Order – but the Pope did something that the King did not expect – he ordered the transfer of all the Templar property over to the Knights Hospitaller. King Philip still managed to steal some of the Templar property for his Crown but elsewhere, the property transfered to the Hospitallers and only in Portugal, it went to another knightly order. A new order, The Order of Christ, was created in that country so that the knights from the Templars would join them, rather than have nowhere to go.
As for this book, it’s mostly a load of bull.
it’s an interesting history. I was under the impression that the unwelcome domination of the French king aside the papacy wasn’t that keen on the growth of templar power either. I will have to read up on the matter
Interesting.
I considered joining Freemasons once, but I could not bring myself to swear any form of oath or any form of allegiance. I love my personal liberty too much for that.
“Since the ideas that we hold are too dangerous to the ruling establishment”
If they were really considered dangerous by the establishment, you would likely not be a free man anymore. The opposition you face is more like … I don’t know, the collective and instinctive resistance of the “Matrix” against uncomfortable ideas. Like an automatic response of society’s “immune system” before this immune system truly becomes deeply aware of your existence. I think your numbers are far too small to make a real impact right now – not that this will necessarily stay that way, of course.
“The Templars swore oaths of secrecy that kept their business practices and other plans completely concealed, not only from the public but even their own members”
I somehow doubt that the word “public” had any meaning back then that is comparable to today’s meaning of the word. There was no globalistic media back then and there was no telephone and no internet. I imagine people would have been pretty isolated and pretty much concerned with just their own lives and maybe with the concerns of the village they resided in. If they knew of a king, it was probably more of a peripheral awareness of some dude who pressures them into paying taxes. I could be wrong, though.
I was passing a coin shop the other day when I saw an old gold coin which was identified as from the French Consulate era 1799-1804 or something. It had a five pointed star emblazoned in the middle with the masonic ‘G’ for the generative principle in the middle.
I couldn’t say for sure but that star (I can’t find an example online to examine it more closely) looked pretty similar to the communist star of the next great revolutionary period of the Bolsheviks and beyond.
The theory that the French Revolution was a masonic affair is a merely a theory and a relatively unevidenced one at that (although there is certainly some evidence). It’s a dangerous theory that one needs to handle carefully, because it may not be an either / or affair. The Abbe Barruel (and later Paul Robeson) would introduce the idea that masons had been behind that revolution, and people like Nesta Webster and Christina Stoddard revived the idea after the Bolshevik Revolution. One has to be very careful here not to claim more than there is evidence for . This is a tradition which is sometimes associated with a ‘world jewish conpiracy’ the consequences of which we are still recovering from 80 years after the second world war. Moreover it isn’t clear that freemasonry is necessarily jewish – most lodges certainly aren’t – but there do certainly seem to be some kabbalistic and occultic elements to masonic ideas. It seems fair to say that masonic lodges – both jewish and gentile – have tended to promote radical and enlightenment ideas and probably did have an impact on the french revolution (the jacobin clubs seem to have been involved) and some of the german bund – the asiatic brethren etc – but this might easily be contributory rather than providing any kind of overarching control or direction. It seems likely to me that freemasonry has been influential behind the scenes and may well still be so, but that doesn’t necessarily mean it is a unitary force, even if there may be certain religion busting ideas swimming around at its mysterious core. It seems likely to me that there is an occult aspect to this, and that to some extent what Albert Pike said may have been accurate for the most part. Their generative ‘G’ has perhaps two aspects: firstly it’s about sex – as the positive creative force in the universe – a tenet that contrasts to some degree with the Christian idea of creation, which is not so obviously cast as sexual in nature – the dualist, balancing force inherent to occult ideas underscores this. Secondly there is the sense inherent also in the idea of the generative that there is something being created within all of this, or given that we are talking about masons, something being ‘built’. The mason’s insistence that initiates believe in a creator disguises the fact that their ‘God’ (which is not necessarily supernatural) is understood as the grand architect. There is a great deal more to be said on such matters but whether anything more can be said clearly, or without it being mere speculation is less certain. Suffice it to say that there seems to be a ‘progressive’ aspect to masonry that focusing too much on other aspects serves well to disguise. I would add also that you will never get any kind of clarity on such issues. Pike appeared to reveal himself as a satanist, and then a few years later the Leo Taxil affair exploded that theory very publically – although who knows whether that wasn’t the entire point of the hoax.
Re. the knights templar, this is all very speculative. There is no evidence that the knights templars of the masons have any connexion with the knights templars of medieval christendom. The baphomet as depicted was a creation of Eliphas Levi representing the occult principles, including the dualistic, generative principle of hermaphroditism described above. Were the Templars engaged in demonic practices? What did they find beneath the Temple Mount? Who knows. I think some say they may have been influenced by the Ishmaelis, but again, its mere speculation
As for the issue of organisation, this is indeed interesting. We would no doubt do well to study the organising principles of the Bavarian illuminati, where each cell works towards a common goal, but where only the centre is fully cognizant of the true goal. Except its all a bit feminine and machiavellian isn’t it. Unless you’re going to disguise your goals, and make them known only to the leadership that precise model isn’t going to work. May well be worth investigating alternative organising principles and of course special handshakes
what are the purposes of the black masonic lodges?
you mean as in racially black? I don’t know. Just read up a little about it. It seems in America there may be some segregation involved, but less obviously the case in Europe. Some claim they – e.g. Prince Hall Masons – are very powerful. I’m pretty sure I’ve seen a picture of Jay-Z dressed up as a mason but I think in a regular lodge.
Prince Hall members include: Jesse Jackson, al sharpton, Nobel “peace” prize winner Barack Obama. Jay-z is part of the grand lodge. It doesn’t matter it’s all the same anyhow. Shriners, prince hall, blue lodge, Memphis mysteriam, OTO, order of the trapezoid all linked together
They developed at a time when Blacks were not allowed to attend regular lodge in the US. Prince Hall I believe got a charter from the English Grand Lodge and started his own. Now they have historical inertia so they continue to exist. Many state grand lodges recognize Prince Hall lodges and allow an “open door” policy, where degrees they issue are recognized, members in good standing can visit lodges in either jurisdiction, etc.
Wow, what a tirade.
Masons are just stupid non jews serving, sometimes willingly, sometimes don’t, the political interests of organized jewry,
What are those interests? Liberty, Equality, Fraternity. What is the political application of those principles: democracy, monetarism, feminism, globalism, secularism, etc, etc, etc.
that kind of made me laugh
“What is the politcal application of those principles: democracy, monetarism, feminism, globalism, secularism”
ok, but why, are you so sure everything is just about money and power. I think what is wrong with your account is that it reflects an impoverished understanding of human psychology
Those are the joo elites God
You know what? you are right.
Of course, the masons (and the jews behing them) are just human beings, just a little better than most. They work without rest to make this world a better world, a brighter world. Democracy, Multiculturalism, Feminism, Equality, Open Borders are good things. This world should be like a giant Bennetton commercial (with no white people and more Trans, Non-Binary and Intersex, muslims, Jews and African Americans) mixed with the lyrics of ‘Imagine’ from The Beatles mixed with a Pitbull music video.
I don’t understand human psychology at all. I’m wrong. I’m a straight white male. I’m the evil in flesh.
I should kill myself.
Thank you for show me the way.
No Paul McCartney’s Ebony & Ivory? That’s raciss.
My point was merely that people who work towards the kind of nirvana you describe above believe its for good rather than evil even if they are ultimately self-interested and even if there may be serious implications for non preferred groups. There is always an argument being played out
The self interest negates believing it is for good rather than evil as a whole.
Co opting the good and deceptively delivering evil through it is ingenious on one hand and despicable on the other.
If it’s entirely cynical I would be inclined to agree, but there is also the (often very useful) capacity to self-deceive and furthermore to ‘split’ the self into that a conscious part that speaks of good and an unconscious part more in tune with the more primitive motivations.
Egalitarianism is the most obvious example of how universalism and self-interest work on two levels
I saw a german documentary about the Templars a few years ago and one of the points that was brought to light was they they were the first to engage in what would be called an international banking enterprise. They also did well in real estate. The amassed wealth that made them plenty of enemies wearing crowns and even today their is speculation where the remaining Templars and their wealth went.
From the 10th to the 13th century, the Papal collectors were the first Christian moneylenders. After 1200, in Catalonia, the Crown was borrowing from the Templars on the one hand, and Jewish moneylenders on the other. Two sides of the same coin?
Great observation.
“Two sides of the same coin?”
Probably. It is mentioned through more than a few history books to be weary about lending money to royalty.
I read a theory about them going to modern day Switzerland, back then it was just a bunch of poor farmers along a trade route but after they disbanded the Swiss became leading bankers and had some of the best soldiers and aren’t those funny looking guards at the Vatican Swiss?
The documentary alluded to both Switzerland (and the banking connection) and Scotland as the remaining Templars simply knew their were running out of safe harbors. Cyprus was one of their major strongholds after the III Crusade, but the archives were destroyed once the Ottomans over ran it in the late1500’s.
The Pope’s bodyguards are sons from well vetted Swiss catholic families for the last 500 years.
IIRC, the surviving Templars went to Scotland, and eventually the New World.
there’s no doubt their wealth and (independent) power was a major part in their downfall. The banking side of things is interesting. One thinks of the Templars and the Medicis etc as major creditors (and presumably also usurers) in the middle ages (other than the jewish bankers). The reformation seems to have put paid to that to some degree – although that is just an impression – I haven’t studied the issue.
Re. the templar treasure that’s a fascinating issue – one of the great fun reads of my youth was the Holy Blood and the Holy Grail
I was getting a tattoo of a Christian symbol about 6 years ago and my tattoo artist (older guy, owner of the shop) and I got talking. Long story short, turns out he was a Masonic member and slated to lead the order in the state (I think he was Treasurer at the time). He actually invited me to join. Unable to believe him, I never pursued it, but I always wonder. You can’t always tell how people are connected.
There’s a movie about a Templar called “Ironclad” that I like alot…warning, it is SAVAGELY violent, as in a scene of one of the Templar’s attackers cleaved from shoulder to groin with a great sword.
I think there is a veiled reference to Masons at the beginning of that movie, when one of the characters sees the templars and says “Knights without swords, what is the world coming to” or something to that effect. It’s been a while since I saw it.
Paul giamatti played King John lol
I was just wondering why ROK had not yet featured an article on the Masons. Freemasonry is not as “secret” as it once was. In my jurisdiction there are only a few things that are kept secret, and those are simply the passwords and modes of recognition. Which honestly may be found through a google search nowadays. There is also nothing satanic about it. Nor is it atheist…one must profess a belief in a Supreme Being to join. Almost all the lessons taught in Blue Lodge and York Rite masonry come straight out of stories in the Bible. The Scottish Rite is largely Bible based but goes off on some interesting tangents based on historical events (there is one degree which features a story about George Washington, for example). What’s interesting is that both the Scottish and York Rite in US Masonry become more explicitly martial in the degree titles and content as you move up the ladder, so that at the top of both there is a definite identification (even if the historical connection is dubious) with the Knights Templar.
“There is also nothing satanic about it. Nor is it atheist…one must profess a belief in a Supreme Being to join.”
That’s interesting, and I have no authority or knowledge to contradict what you say except the idea of acknowledging a ‘supreme being’ does actually work against religion, which in a sense is the big enlightenment idea – that the Abrahamic religions, as a force of backwardness – need to go. Leaving masonry aside, one of the great assaults on religion – particularly christianity – has been the rise of comparative religion – the idea that all religions are equivalent somehow, or somehow contain the same idea. While to some extent in christianity this is contained in the notion of ‘ecumenicalism’ (although strictly that’s meant to apply only to christian denominations) it has sometimes been extended to become something more akin to a more universal religion / faith. If you read up on the NWO conspiracy theories (forgive me for directing you thus) one of the main ideas is the idea of universal religion. But effectively though this universalism is actually destructive of those religions precisely because each one of them makes unique claims which when you blend them together are lost.
In other words it could be argued that it is precisely the religion friendly elements of masonry that reflects its effective hostility to the particularity of the (abrahamic) religions
The history of Freemasonry in regards to Christianity and in particular the Abrahamic religions is interesting. To my knowledge all oath and obligations of Freemasonry were at one time taken upon the Holy Bible. Later as the organization spread, largely aided and abetted by European colonial powers, this was expanded to include any received religion. So that for example a Jewish member would take his oath on the Torah; a Hindu on the sutras, a Muslim on the Koran, etc. I can say with authority however that ALL of the degrees which quote religious texts utilize the Bible, particularly the Old Testament, as the source material. And from personal experience I know that joining the Masons actually brought me back to being a conservative Christian from years spent as a liberal agnostic.
thanks for your reply. I don’t doubt that’s how it is – in the main at least. It isn’t for me as a non-mason to say what masonry is or isn’t, although it is hard not to compare personal accounts – most of which tend to reflect a positive and pro-social experience, with those which are suspicious of masonry. I do think there is some evidence that masonry – in whole or more probably in part – has sometimes played a role in ‘progressive’ sometimes revolutionary movements, but I imagine there’s a danger of trying to paint too generalised picture of such things. Further I have heard – for what’s it worth – that British and American freemasonry – may have been rather less radicalised (or re-purposed?) in this sense than continental masonry (or for that matter remained conservative). Having said that scottish rite masonry appears rather frequently in the conspiracy literature deservedly or otherwise. One last thing I would point out, is that things like the G, standing for generative, the masonic pyramid / eye and the solomonic mythos – all sit quite uneasily within a purely ‘biblical’ setting, however important or unimportant that might be
And thank you for the civil conversation. I think it would be difficult to pin any particular revolution or movement on some doctrine within Freemasonry. However, I do think that the Lodge provides a space for men to meet in private, and historically this was used to safeguard plans, agendas, etc from the King’s Men. Though again I do not think it is a result of anything peculiar to Masonry other than the “democratic” nature of the Lodge itself, which was quite revolutionary at a time when monarchs ruled by decree and divine right (lodges duly elect their officials through a lawful process of voting and the very famous “blackballing” for a nay vote).
Regarding the symbolism, the G was never explained to me as Generative, but rather as standing for God. Some also interpret it as Geometry, since God is taken to be the being who established order and rules to form a regular cosmos. The square is the way one interacts with others (you square your actions) and the compasses are your moral direction in life. Again with God at the center. The Eye of Providence is not actually somethign we see much in masonry nowadays, though it was used in the old method of Masonic teaching calling Tracing Boards (back when Masons met in the upstairs rooms of taverns and such). Masonry is filled with symbolism, most of which point to proper conduct in society and towards one’s fellow men. In fact, a great deal of masonry is quite compatible in my opinion with the values espoused on ROK, except that I can’t see Masons being heavily into game as most of the ones I meet nowadays seem well into their 70’s. As for Solomon’s Temple, that whole aspect revolves around one particular story about Solomon’s master architect, a good man, and what happens to him.
In the York Rite of Masonry, this story is further expanded and connected directly with faith in Christ. The Knight Templar degree cycl (the so-called Chivalric degrees) is in fact is the only Masonic degree that one needs to profess a “preference” for Christianity before all other faiths. Hope this is useful/interesting. You seem to be interested in Masonry in general so I hope that you might consider talking with some local Masons some day. It is a wonderful masculine spiritual journey and I never looked back.
thanks for an interesting insiders perspective.
“I think it would be difficult to pin any particular revolution or movement on some doctrine within Freemasonry. However, I do think that the Lodge provides a space for men to meet in private, and historically this was used to safeguard plans, agendas, etc from the King’s Men.”
I don’t doubt that that does account for much of both the attraction the utility of lodges in times when states frequently did not brook any dissent. As you acknowledge I think that does also create potential for dissident or even revolutionary franternization and planning to occur. In the case of the French Revolution this does appear to have been a factor at least in part – the Jacobin Clubs in France (and possibly the Bunds etc in Germany/Austria?) – but that doesn’t mean freemasonry was responsible for the revolution itself (necessarily) i.e. there was at least a conspiratorial aspect (men meeting behind the scenes to plan revolutionary activity) but that might be short of the revolution itself being the result of a conspiracy (as opposed to popular uprisings etc). It’s a tricky one but I think historians may need to re-examine the issue as they have tended to default in favour of more democratic explanations.
As for the symbolism in Freemasonry etc, that’s one of the things which make it so fascinating, and potentially difficult to pin down. I have no doubt that for the majority of freemasons the ‘G’ stands for God just as the eye stands for ‘Providence’ but the force of such symbols has always been their – if you like – wave / particle duality: they can mean different things depending on who you are talking to, and both of those people might be absolutely sincere in describing their interpretation. There have been masons who’ve identified themselves even on this board (not recently) who’ve described a heavy interest in the occult – perhaps that’s purely a personal interest, but then we already know that at least some masons like the infamous Pike did take the occult side of things quite seriously. Surely it is possible for the ‘G’ or the ‘eye’ to meet God for conservative Christians and the Generative principle (or Geometry even) for those of a different mindset (and potentially initiated into a different set of mysteries / arcana. To try to get to the inner core or whatever – what masonry is really about – may be to misunderstand that potential dual nature perhaps.
I think with all symbolism moreoever there is always an exoteric and esoteric side. Usually that’s taken to mean the surface meanings are wrong and the real meanings are the hidden ones. It could be that, but then equally if everyone believes masonry is occult or whatever then that would actually become the exoteric meaning – relatively speaking – if you get my drift.
Of course, I am aware this is only so much speculation, based largely on outsider accounts, many of them hostile. If get the chance I will indeed try to talk to some actual masons
Fellow Freemason here (although UK based) and I concur that all of the above is completely accurate. Personally, I’ve gained a lot from it, and given that it’s “men only”, it’s a wonderful escape from the general pressures of life, and of course, women’s nonsense!
I recommend the book “written in stone – decoding the secret masonic religion hidden in gothic cathetrals and world architecture” by Richard Cassaro. He basically argues the symbols are expression of an ancient pre-abrahamic religion that is forgotten by masons themselves
thanks for the recommendation. I am interested in that subject and the ancient religion aspect. I checked it out though and it seems its only really available on his website
Yes its true, I contacted the author about it and we had a brief exchange about that as I felt the book to be a little bit overpriced at first (especially considering international shipping) he explained to me that he as non-mainstream author cannot afford to put his books up on amazon yet as they take a 70% cut and his books might get resold. I´d encourage you to buy it anyway, I am so far about 100 pages in and I really got great value from it, the book has also lot of illustrations and a ton of footnotes
thanks for the background. That makes sense I suppose as its a niche area and will never be a best-seller. Still he might well make more money if he slashed the price or marketed it differently. Looks good though
Yeah I`m of the same opinion as you are and I think he will do that once he sold out the first edition which he printed in 2012. I promote his work regardless since I very much enjoy it and want to see it continued.
hope so. It sounds interesting. I will keep an eye out for his work
Preach
Lower-rank Masons usually have no idea what goes on at the top. This is how secret societies work – by duping their members.
Someone always says this. I am at the top (in the sense of holding all the degrees) of both the York Rite and Scottish Rite and have held office in the Blue Lodge so I can speak with some authority on what the Masons are about. Also, rank does not work the way you think it does in Freemasonry.
And we’re supposed to believe you just because you says so? What proof of your rank can you provide?
It’s the internet so there is little I can show you without divulging my personal info to the world. I am not claiming expertise on the basis of self aggrandizement but rather feel it is my duty to help dispel some of the myths that get repeated. I would be happy to answer any questions you have about masonry, at least to my knowledge and how I have experienced it in a particular state of the US (each state and country may run things a bit differently). No insult intended, but it does not sound like you understand the basics of what Masonry is, but we all had to start somewhere! I refer you to do a little research on the organization. A good starting point run by one of the oldest lodges in country is here: http://pamasons.org/aboutfreemasonry/
So why did you mention it if you knew that you can not back up your words. It’s like me claiming that I’m RooshV.
Secondly, the basis of the “innocent” Masonry is like a charitable organization, we know that much but I am not talking about that.
How would explain that some one as sick as Aleister Crowley was a Freemason out of many?
Crowley was an ass yes but can you say the same for George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, Frederick the Great, and Buzz Aldrin? All were masons.
Yes, all high ranking, highly influential people who all choose to be masons. Hmmm, wonder why?
Aldrin too? Awesome. Extra sauce to his clocking that jerk who demanded he swear on the Bible that he landed on the moon.
you’re still not anywhere near the top.. You’re being duped into thinking you’re part of a cool kids club.
And YOU’RE the big expert HOW?
Interesting read, but it doesnt answer much about the Masons at all. From your guys understand are they a force of ‘good’ so to say or part of the reckless femenism et al we are subject to?
perhaps you missed the picture with the words ‘baphomet devil goat’ written beneath it?
My uncle had a masonic funeral. I was like 15, but I’ll never forget how utterly bizarre that shit was.
What was bizarre about it?
Freemasonry is an extension of the “Jewish” conspiracy, basically creating a Gentile establishment to do its bidding. The Jewish conspiracy in turn is an instrument of the Central bankers who wish to use Jews and Masons to protect their monopoly on credit (money creation) and turn that monopoly into control over every aspect of your life. Hence the bogus “war on terror.”
85% of the key staff of the ‘central bankers’ (both ‘public’ and private: FED, IMF, World Bank, JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, etc) are jews. How it is not a jewish conspiracy then?
You are afraid to see the truth. It’s the jews stupid.
Freemason = shabbos goy/useful idiot/sjw
Yes, I said that there was much to be learned from the secret societies and the military orders. I have long advocated that we begin forming our own.
In addition to shared beliefs, rituals, ranks, and the like all form social bonds and incentives to remain loyal and invested in the group.
Even if you for some reason believe the masons are evil, recall the maxim that it is right to learn, even from your enemy: http://masculineepic.com/index.php/2016/02/08/seven-critical-lessons-learned-from-the-battle-of-the-meetups/
I always enjoy reading stuff about us from other people. Comments sections are a laugh, as always.
Honestly if you want to know the history and such behind freemasonry, JUST ASK SOMEONE. Go find em, lodges are everywhere and they are more than willing to talk to people. Internet articles and youtube videos are trash.
Who would question stormfront trolls who listen to taylor swift while they get off to their penis pump?
Howdy fellow traveler.
Problem with that is: most Mason’s are part of the blue lodge of American freemasonry. Which means they don’t know shit.
It’s a secret society. They take an oath to not disclose the secrets of the lodge. What are they going to tell you? That its a fraternal order and they do some charity work. Most members are ignorant of the true nature of what freemasonry is. Read books by the luminaries of freemasonry like Albert Pike and Manly P Hall.
Information is very carefully guarded and only given as you ascend higher levels. Your average friend/relative Mason is oblivious to the true nature and objectives of the society.
yes, that is because 99.99% of “freemasons” probably just meet up for chips, hot dogs, beer, and conversation. Only a very small number have any clue what freemasonry is all about or hold any influential positions of power in the world.
There is no question that some of the most influential movers and shakers of history have been freemasons, though.
Any credibility you might have had goes out the window when you suggest that 99% of Masons ARE going to meetings.
All these pious responses on top of a simple suggestion: “Most masons dont know crap”, “read this, don’t do this.” For real, outsiders have no idea how masonry works, the rich history of masonry, how organizations around masonry work- a lot of yall would be surprised to find that all the 33rd degree conspiracy theory stuff is bogus if you just got your feet wet with some ACTUAL masonic knowledge. and you know what, yall don’t need to know nothing, i’m not vouching for you guys to go out and look if yall don’t want, but don’t go chirpin’ back stuff you heard on the internet like some type of parrot: “SQUAWK, MASONRY-ALBERT-PIKE! SQUAWK, MASONRY-POTATO-CHIPS!” Its not doin anybody any good, and its stupid. You’re not privileged seers for talking about subjects that we can tell you don’t know anything about. One day you’re gonna meet the real deal in person, and you’ll know all that naive pontificating you did in your free time wasn’t worth a dime.
Serving Jewry is not enviable and that’s what it is.
At its core it is anti Christian.
It’s rituals are all jooish which is diametrically opposed To Christianity.
A lot of sound and fury signifying nothing.
Perhaps you could point us in the direction of useful sources that debunk Masonic conspiracy theories. No, because they don’t exist.
Instead you and your like will just scoff and guffaw without offering any alternative facts or explanations.
Ya and then go by your local Hell’s Angels chapter and JUST ASK SOMEONE what they are all about and they will tell you they just like riding motorcycles and organizing charity events for kids. Just because they let you empty the oil pans in the garage doesn’t make you a full patch member.
Finaly.
Can anyone speak who is currently a member about what it’s like? Good, bad, any details?
BEWARE: do not join or idolize these cults. The MASONS, Knights Templar (which is a degree in the York rite) are the enemy. They are a zio controlled Kabalah, sun worshipping, Talmudic, satanic organization. A simple search for Albert pike (kkk founder and counterpart to the founder of the mafia in Italy) or manly p hall, will tell you everything you need to know. Rothschild, Rockefeller’s, Astors (English royal line aka Edomites and danites), kennedys (all kennedys not named John Fitzpatrick), Li, warburgs, etc are all part of these cabals and many other networks of associates secret societies. Too many to name while typing on a Mollie device. If you join a lodge, American or from the mother lodge in England, you’ll be part of the deluded masses. They serve one god and one god only – lucifer (Osiris, Prometheus, Apollo, Tammuz, etc)
Lucifer is a semitic creation. Osiris, Prometheus, Apollo are gods of blood of the indo-european peoples. Associating one with another is something that can only serve those masons you talk about.
The rest, I agree. But be careful not to use their rhetoric as facts.
See, that is where I and many non-religious (Biblical Christians) differ from most, when we mention entities such as the devil or God, we mean them in the absolute form beyond the space and time continuum. Whatever earthly names given to them are irrelevant.
You have a dualistic henosis and like to use it. I don’t use the henosis at all. Not even the hypercosmic Trimurti of the Hindus. My religious practice (which is not a new age mockery at all) is about the simple cosmic deities, the mundane things. Not to the point of being animistic, but I keep my feet on the ground, worship and understanding to the point they were allowed to my human nature.
I do this in despite of my christian upbringing and general judeo-christian morals we use to function in our daily lives. Or maybe precisely because of them. One way or another, I don’t proselytise about this…
What do you mean by cosmic deities?
Members of the De Molay society (pre-initiate degree): jfk who left and Walter Disney. Walt Disney was not an anti-Semite; that was for show. He was in league with them. The Zionist created the comtrolled opposition. Most wester sluts today are programmed by said man
To get a glimpse of who’s really in control of the puppet show, watch the film “Training Day” (pay close attention to the scenes involving the Three Wise Men) and “The Usual Suspects” (Keyser Soze represents the hidden organization that pulls all strings – and it isn’t the Masons or the Templars). The movie “From Hell”, starring Johnny Depp, is worth a hard look, too, as there are plenty of clues in that film, if you can see beyond the veil. (“The Juwes are the men that will not be blamed for nothing” – aye, there’s the rub. A riddle within a riddle. Good luck, and thanks for playing…)
Masons were good but then got infiltrated
Infiltrated or they alllowed substandard men to join?
The substandard men you speak of are the infiltrators
I recall reading about masons in Tolstoy’s “War and Peace” amongst the Russian gentry. Not sure if they did indeed exist Czarist Russia, but it woudl be interesting that their influence did indeed stretch to the Urals.
I thought you were exaggerating, but somebody pointed me to this:
http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/netzpolitik/bka-zahlreiche-durchsuchungen-wegen-hasspostings-im-netz-a-1102761.html
Police raided homes for hate speech and people had to pay thousands of Euros for Nazi comments. And the worst part is that people in the comments overwhelmingly seem to agree with it and welcome it – assuming the comments are not fake.
This kind of fascist civilization does not deserve to be saved. It deserves to be overrun, raped, murdered and then ruled by some Islamic dictator.
If I had any doubts about leaving this country, I no longer have them. Goodbye, fucking Germany, I never liked you and as far as I am concerned, your arrogant small-minded asses can burn in hell. I’m out as soon as the opportunity arises.
Yeah. Germany seems to have had its day. I hope the nationalist (and still sane) minority can steer the ship clear from the iceberg but the possibility seems ever farther.
That will never happen. Now, if you read about this incident on an English source, you can see that at least the commenters see how ridiculous it is. But on this site, I kid you not, 99% of all comments WELCOME this kind of thing.
Sorry, but the people deserve to get what they ask for. Who am I to even bother trying to convince them otherwise? A wise man knows when to leave behind petulant emotionally arrested people. And if that goes for people, it also goes for countries.
Propose nationalism and free speech to Germans, and it seems, they will willingly reject it. So let them have it. Let them fucking die.
Vielleicht. I get what you are saying, I just read the comments in the German version and are unsettling to say the least. I just hope that, since der Spiegel is a leftist rag and Germany has no free expression (hence comments deviating from whatever is “politically correct” are erased) the comments there don’t reflect the opinion of the man in the street.
Okay, I am a little calmed down. I Googled another site:
http://meedia.de/2016/07/13/bka-offensive-gegen-hass-und-hetze-im-netz-hausdurchsuchungen-bei-60-verdaechtigen/
The people there seem A LOT more reasonable. Which makes me suspect that the comments on Spiegel are almost all fake.
Those leftists stop at nothing to manipulate.
It is also likely that those comments “unfit” were deleted.
Truth is, I used to work for a dude who would also readily delete comments he disliked and even fake reviews for stupid adverts. No fucking integrity. Just money, money, money.
This one is also more moderate:
http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article157010323/Hausdurchsuchungen-wegen-Hass-Postings-auf-Facebook.html
Man … I was really in shock there for a moment. Phew.
if you leave instead of standing your ground youre not better than the refugees
I don’t need to be better than anyone. I do not identify with the country I live in. When I can choose to have a better life elsewhere, why wouldn’t I?
I understand your reasoning but if this is the way you think you shouldnt complain about the way things are
Why not?
If youre not willing to work for the betterment of a unwanted situation you should not complain about it, i think that makes sense?
Sorry, I don’t follow your logic.
Comments are skewed
Israel pays trolls to try to shape public opinion and idiots like you are gullible enough to believe most of it
Read my comment below. I realized my mistake.
Germany fought the good fight. Our own Oatton came to realize it. It is now strictly run by Jewry and has 100,000 occupation troops there to quell an uprising. It’s not over yet. Most Germans are sick of the rapefugees. They as Patton said are ” the greatest race in Europe” and in mankind for that matter
The Hollywood movie that I referenced in my earlier comment – “The Usual Suspects” – has a serious clue in its very title. Most people pin all the world’s evil deeds on the usual suspects – but there’s a force behind those suspects, a force that remains unseen, as it pulls the strings of its myriad puppets. (These guys love being clever by dangling clues in plain sight, knowing their acolytes will rarely see them…and they generally shove them right in people’s faces just as they did with the title of this revealing film, where the truth has been dressed up as fiction, as part of the overall mindfuck.)
This movie looks cool. Thanks! I love this comments board…
It’s a winner of a film…you’re totally welcome.
Adherents to the secret society orders are only divulged enough mystery knowledge to make them feel special but not enough info to weaponize mankind against our reptoid alien overlords. Man would become too strong and be able to break out of the farm. The only way Homosapienus Erectus can grow and evolve to the next level is by totally rebelling against the alien Luciferian bitch force and breaking free from the bosom of our Earthly confines.
Our species was borne of rebellion and it is through rebellion that we will ascend. If we are required to first make paradise on Earth before we’re allowed to graduate beyond this orb – it won’t happen. Our gleaming civilizations get wiped repeatedly like an etch-a-sketch. The grain of illogic and bitchforce runs deep in the earth like a mile deep ant colony. This orb is infested.
The old secret orders are a stumbling block to the ascention of our species. The current science, tech and military orders push our species back into the dirt of terra firma, surveilling and imprisoning us and rubbing the face of mankind into the pussy of the great bitch mother MOTHER EARTH. She is not our mother and Lucifer is not our father. We as a species must rebel wholesale, lock stock and barrel. So it is a test man. Can ye break free from THE GREAT PUSSY. Can ye climb from the slime. Is it such a durge? We are MAN. We’re a BADASS species. Admit it. REBEL MAN maranatha!
The orders selected and invited leaders from amongst the humans and the talented and gifted, those who showed potential for development. I once read of a popular firebrand news commentator who was initiated and as he rose in rank, his broadcast shows became very dull and drab. He no longer took on the establishment and lost his penchant to grab the beast by the horns. He became part of the system. I’ve heard that the old ‘Morals and Dogma’ was replaced with ‘A Bridge to Light’ as required reading in the order. New initiates lacked the ability to comprehend the old writings. Many science and tech leaders aren’t masons but new secretive cabals are emerging. Now it is elite gangsterism wreaking havoc in the world. The new ruling order must be a rebellious order of man. We rebuke the bitchforce.
Hail the patriarchy!
“The only way Homosapienus Erectus can grow and evolve to the next
level is by totally rebelling against the alien Luciferian bitch force
and breaking free from the bosom of our Earthly confines.Our species was borne of rebellion and it is through rebellion that we will ascend”
Interesting comment. I would point out that though the commandeering of the revolutionary impulse is one of the things that has characterised secret societies working towards a ‘new world order’ (to the extent that they can be said to exist). The realization perhaps is that this revolutionary force is in fact an elite one, and that the revolutionary change promoted actually serves the status quo at the highest levels. It follows that any kind of genuinely revolutionary action (or equivalent) would be relative to this ‘pseudo-revolutionary” status quo.
It’s worth noting that in the occult, Satan / Lucifer are claimed to be a civilizing, progressive force: like the prometheus who brings fire to human beings and is persecuted for his temerity
Does the civilizing progressive force have to be secret, hierarchical and control based?
That is a very interesting question indeed. Firstly since it is largely done in secret – or in invory towers etc – there can be no agreement that it is such a civilizing progressive force – we only have a different kind of paternalism (or maternalism) which we are supposed to take on trust is of the benevolent kind. Since revolution by its nature turns things upside down, there is always going to be the question of whether what is described as progress is nothing more than negation, although of course, this could be turned around – were such an argument to take place – and the assertion made that all progress must proceed on the basis of negation (i.e. destruction / creation / chaos / order). Furthermore as I’ve indicated above, the question can be asked whether any of this can be regarded as even progressive in the revolutionary sense if it is all being managed by elites who occupy some kind of (social, intellectual or other) transcendental position.
Against this are the reformers of the world. Reform can sometimes drive things forward quite effectively, but it is rarely as rapid in its effects and by nature it may not be particularly ‘radical’.
Crudely speaking I would say revolution and reform are the two most obvious methods of such progress. The former appears to require deception, and distraction and the kind of hierarchical organisation you allude to. Since it seems as such to be indistinguishable from a control system there is something deeply elitist and undemocratic about it: it depends on the elites, the intellectuals etc knowing what people really want – being able to give them both what is ‘good for them’ and what they really want (but just don’t know it yet).
Ultimately I don’t think there can be any value in such a system of change, which in abandoning or disregarding individual conscious decision making / choice tends towards unconsciousness and blind mechanism in the long run.
I’m not entirely unsympathetic: people are often hide-bound, reactionary, or worse (since that is their prerogative) want others to make their decisions for them, but this is only really a problem when the choices to be made are revolutionary/counter-revolutionary in nature. Who would consciously choose violent revolution in the knowledge that all hell will be let loose?
I am having a t-shirt printed … “Rebelling against the alien Luciferian bitch force!”
Another clue from the movie “The Usual Suspects” (which I referenced in two previous comments below), is a line uttered by Kevin Spacey’s character, Verbal Kint – who was actually the master criminal Keyser Soze in disguise:
“The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn’t exist.”
This quote is historically attributed to the French poet and essayist Charles Baudelaire (April 9, 1821 – August 31, 1867).
Charles Baudelaire was buried in a graveyard in Montparnasse, France (located in Paris’s Left Bank); another heavyweight of note who is buried at this same graveyard is the Freemason, André-Gustave Citroën, who was a French industrialist of major repute. (He is remembered chiefly for the make of car named after him – the Citroën.)
The Paris Museum of Freemasonry is locate in Montparnasse. (A startling coincidence…)
Charles Baudelaire transcribed much of Edgar Allan Poe’s work into French, from roughly 1847 to 1865; Poe’s epic short story, “The Cask of the Amontillado”, tells the tale of a man who has been wronged by a Freemason – and decides to get even with him.
(Although there’s no way of knowing for sure, I believe Poe was not a Freemason, which would explain why a man of such obviously brilliant talent and vision, was denied fame and wealth during his own lifetime…the fact that Poe authored “The Cask of the Amontillado” certainly backs up this notion.)
You can read a brief online essay regarding the Masonic aspects of Poe’s masterpiece, “The Cask of the Amontillado”, right here –
https://stuffjeffreads.wordpress.com/2013/10/02/masonic-and-number-symbolism-in-the-cask-of-amontillado-by-edgar-allan-poe/
You can read the entire text of “The Cask of the Amontillado”, online, at the following link –
http://literature.org/authors/poe-edgar-allan/amontillado.html
Dots, dots…connect those dots.
OK….Mason here. No I am not one of the coveted 33rd degree Masons, just a lowly Master Mason. But, I am pretty sure that if the Free Masons (of at least the USA) run the world then they would be doing a very poor, unorganized job of it. At least my Lodge, which is actually one of the younger, more organized, and better run of them around the area is still stuck in the 1960’s. I get meeting notices in the mail. Have to mail checks to pay for events, dues, etc (and it takes the treasurer 6 months to cash my check since he physically will go to the bank). The secretary refuses to send emails. If I want to get something done I have to place calls and leave messages if there is no answer. Forget any kind of social media presence. Our Lodge doesn’t even have internet service (the vote to get basic DSL for $30/month was controversial and failed by a good majority).
Mostly the rank and file of the Masons are guys who want an excuse to get away from the wife a few times a week and a further excuse to engage in some good old fashion internal politics. These are guys who like to drink a beer after the Lodge meeting. Drive funny small cars in community parades. Have banquets twice a year and get a little drunk without the wife around. Don’t want to have to talk politics or religion for a night. And don’t want to have to deal with women and a-hole atheists hanging around (believing in a supreme being is a requirement in almost all lodges across the world except France).
If you want in on this grand secret society all you have to do is find a local Mason and ask to join. As long as you are not some sort of a-hole douche bag that pisses everyone off, most likely you will be welcomed with open arms (and a dues check for a few hundred a year).
If there is some sort of grand conspiracy it is run by a said few. Even the real 33rd degree guys are mostly older dudes. We are talking 60+ and put in decades in the Lodge and Grand Lodge. It is mostly an honorary degree as it is the only one that is by invitation only and has a restricted membership number.
But, if you want to join one of the last true fraternities that is full of guys who still want to have some genuine masculine bonding time a few days a month it is not a bad organization to join.
No thx. I’d rather join a bike or running club.
I’ve no interests in serving Satan or Jewry
Join whatever club you like, but I can tell you that there is no devil worship going on in lodge meetings. And I don’t know how hanging out with some guys (most of which are Christian, but there are a few Jews) is serving the interests of “Jewry”.
Rituals of Freemasonry
Freemasonry Proven To Worship Lucifer
Part 3 of 5
Once you understand what is going on in the world you can then recognize evidences of Satanism in so many, many places.
THE PENTAGRAM
It was proven from Masonic books that Masons worship both Lucifer and Satan. They serve both the “good” Lucifer and the “evil” Satan. They believe that both good and evil exist in equal measure in the world.
They also believe good cannot exist without an equally powerful evil.
This belief is the reason we see both type of 5-pointed stars within Masonry; the star with the upright single point is a symbol of the “good” Lucifer, while the star with the two points upward is a symbol of the “evil” Satan. It also takes 33 degrees of rotation of a pentagram (one point up) to achieve a Satanic pentagram (two points up). Coincidence?
I don’t think so.
The women’s division of Freemasonry, Eastern Star (above right) is based upon the “evil Satan” Star, the Goats Head of Mendes. This is one of the Infernal Names of Satan within Satanism.
In looking at the Eastern Star Goatshead (above right), the star itself is a Goatshead, and the star in the middle is a plain Goatshead, which is within an inverted pentacle. In one symbol there are three instances of inverted pentagrams.
So, just how important is the Pentagram to the Satanist? Listen to the Witch of Salem, Massachusetts, Laura Cabot, on this question. In her book, Power of the Witch: The Earth, the Moon, and the Magical Path to Enlightenment, Cabot says,
“It really isn’t that difficult to distinguish the Craft from Satanism. Witches wear the pentacle with the point up. Satanists reverse it with the point down …”
Once we examine the two symbols above, both Masonic, we can only conclude that Freemasonry admittedly serves both the “good Lucifer” and the “evil Satan!”
Cabot has more to say on page 93, about the significance of the Pentagram to witchcraft.
“It [Pentagram] consists of a five-pointed star inside a circle. It is the key symbol of the Craft. It is the witch’s Mandala ….”
The Pentagram, inside a circle or with no circle, is the key symbol of witchcraft. Both “good” and “evil” pentagrams are within Freemasonry in abundance.
THE TRIANGLE — CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS ARTICLE
The Triangle wasn’t the first subject mentioned on this page because the Pentagram is far more important to their practice of Witchcraft.
The triangle is part and parcel of the Pentagram. The triangle plays a big part within the Hexagram as well.
FREEMASONRY TEACHES MAN IS BECOMING GOD
To the occultist, the triangle is very important. It is used constantly in every conceivable manner. It is used either with the point up or down.
When you see the point down, this represents the Deity and is called the Deity’s Triangle or the Water Triangle.
The Earthly Triangle or Pyramid Triangle is what it is called when one point is up. It “symbolizes the PERFECT OR DIVINE MAN.” This quote is not from some heinous Black-hooded Satanist, it comes from a 33rd Degree Masonic author named George Steinmetz [Freemasonry: Its Hidden Meaning , New York, Macoy Publishing and Masonic Supply Company, 1948, p. 63, repeated on p. 67]
Freemasonry joins all pagan groups in saying that man can become “divine” or “perfect.” In another book, George returns to this theme once again:
“Be still — and know — that I am God … That I AM GOD — the final recognition of the All in All, the unity of the Self with the Cosmos — the cognition of the DIVINITY OF THE SELF!”
[George H. Steinmetz, The Lost Keys of Freemasonry, Richmond, Virginia, Macoy Publishing and Masonic Supply Company, 1923, p. 92]
Freemasonry has been so sensitive about any of its secrets ever becoming public knowledge. Masons in every age knew that if the general public knew the Satanic core that existed in the heart of Freemasonry, the organization would either go into oblivion or would be arrested and put in jail. Now you know why Freemasonry insists that its Initiates pledge that, if they divulge any of Masonry’s secrets, he would agree to having his throat slit and be disemboweled.
Manly P. Hall, another 33rd Degree Mason, writes,
“Man is a God in the making …”
[The Lost Keys of Freemasonry, p. 92]
Masonic author, Joseph Fort Newton, clearly and boldly states,
“.. to the profoundest insight of the human soul — that God becomes man that man may become God.”
[The Religion of Freemasonry: An Interpretation, Macoy Publishing and Masonic Supply Company, 1969, p. 37]
MASONRY ACKNOWLEDGES THAT FREEMASONRY ORIGINATED IN THE PLACE WHERE SATAN DWELLS
Albert Churchward, another Masonic author states that the triangle pointing upward us a symbol for Set, which is one of the Infernal Names for Satan. [Signs and Symbols of Primordial Man , George Allen and Company, Ltd., 1913, p. 189, 309, and 471]. Then, Masonic author, J.S.M. Ward states,
“With the point upwards, the equilateral triangle stands for Shiva the Destroyer and signifies the flame which rises upwards from the funeral pyre toward Heaven. This symbol is familiar to us in several degrees, most notably the Thirtieth degree.”
[Freemasonry and the Ancient Gods, 1921; also reported by Masonic authors William Meyer, The Order of the Eastern Star, p. 20; Alain Danielou, The Gods of India]
Shiva is another name for Satan in the occult. The triangle with one point pointing up is a symbol for Satan. Most likely this is the reason why the pyramid is such an important symbol to the Mason. This is the symbol on the reverse of the one dollar bill. This symbol contains two triangles: the Pyramid itself and the All-Seeing Eye of Horus (Osiris).
Occultists know that both Horus and Osiris are alternate names for Satan. There is one more proof from Masonic authors, that Satan is the one they worship.
Masonic authors tell us that they worship Lucifer in yet another way. Lynn Perkins (a Masonic Author), states that
“Shamballa has a bearing on the ancient origins of Freemasonry and upon its future in the coming Aquarian Age …”
[Masonry In The New Age, p. 56]
Then, on pages 55-56, Perkins says that today’s Mason has no idea that Freemasonry comes from such an ancient, esoteric source. Most Masons today understand that the roots of their organization are in Satanism. When Perkins said that Freemasonry had its origins in Shamballa, he just identified Masonry as Satanic.
Alice Bailey, with her Demon Master – Master D.K. – writing through her, stated that
“Shamballa is the mythological place where the ‘Lord of the World’, Sanat Kumara, or Shiva , is supposed to live.”
[Discipleship in the New Age].
Masonic author, Perkins, has just admitted that Freemasonry originated in the place where Shiva (Satan) lives.
Manly P. Hall, 33rd Degree Mason, K.T., in his book, Initiates of the Flame boldly admits Freemasonry is from Hell:
“Those who follow the path of faith (or the heart) use water and are known as the Sons of Seth, while those who follow the path of the mind and action are the Sons of Cain, who was the son of SAMAEL , the Spirit of Fire. Today, we find the latter among the alchemists, the Hermetic philosophers, the Rosicrucians and the Freemasons.”
[p. 20]
Hall places Freemasonry among the circle of the damned — Sons of Cain , who rebelled against God; alchemists who are known sorcerers, Black Magicians, and worshippers of Satan, and the Rosicrucians who have so desecrated the precious cross of Jesus Christ with Pentagrams and Hexagrams as to make you sick.”
If you want to know the “secrets” of Freemasonry all you have to do is go online and find the script about every ritual. In some form of publication they have been available since about the 1880’s to the general public. Many other exposition type pieces about the so-called “secret” rituals date back to the late 1700’s. Feel free to read them and if you do you will hardly see there is no devil worship going on.
Manly P. Hall, 33rd Degree Mason, K.T., in his book, Initiates of the Flame boldly admits Freemasonry is from Hell:
“Those who follow the path of faith (or the heart) use water and are known as the Sons of Seth, while those who follow the path of the mind and action are the Sons of Cain, who was the son of SAMAEL , the Spirit of Fire. Today, we find the latter among the alchemists, the Hermetic philosophers, the Rosicrucians and the Freemasons.”
[p. 20]
Hall places Freemasonry among the circle of the damned — Sons of Cain , who rebelled against God; alchemists who are known sorcerers, Black Magicians, and worshippers of Satan, and the Rosicrucians who have so desecrated the precious cross of Jesus Christ with Pentagrams and Hexagrams as to make you sick.”
This makes no sense. It is just a guy saying a bunch of words with no factual assertion or hypothesis. He just says “Freemasons are from hell” then throws a bunch of words around that statements.
If Masons are from hell they are doing a really bad job of helping the devil. My Lodge just paid for summer camp for 30 poor teens to attend instead of spending their days off in the ghetto. Another lodge I occasionally attend is just about the sole funder for their local food bank. Many members are also active in their church, local non-profits, or other similar organizations. Doesn’t really sound like what devil worshippers would be doing, does it?
That’s for appearances. Yes, devil worshippers can and still do good works too.
What little “good” you do is far outweighed by the evil that comes from your halls. Bode, the gig is up. You’re not dealing with a naive public any longer.
And exactly how is this devil worship again?
The fluffy charity work and guys joining for a beer are a smokescreen for an evil and sinister organization responsible for such evils as the French Revolution and the Bolshevik revolution. Freemasons are automatically excommunicated by the Catholic Church as per pope Klemens XII. They are at war with Christianity, with many high ranking masons actively working on destroying the Church from within. Maybe you have never been invited for a ritual of Satan worshiping, but you are in danger of loosing your soul by associating with such an organization.
You are delusional.
I mean no disrespect to you personally, but the excommunication is a harsh penalty that was instituted for a reason.
You realize that was a papal encyclical from the 18th century right? There are even some Catholics in my Lodge. Maybe back in the day it was something different but now it is just some old guys wanting to hang out with guys and have some fun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MX0GtdVQ26E
A call to Roosh, Mr. Quintus, and Mr. Pertinebit,
I have an idea, actually I copied the idea from a gentleman from my country that was in the Foreign Legion 5 years, and that now publicly opposes the underground plan to destroy Europe and the white race and God.
This guy, is a regular man, it’s just he was in the Foreign Legion.
Anyway, we, the citizens were expecting him to call us out to his aid, instead, he publicly asked all citizens to pray to God at the certain time.
He called us to pray at 21:00 hours by lighting a candle and pray to the God, Jesus, and the Holy Mother Mary.
Initially I suspected something trivial ( the atheist in me didn’t see what was the use) but surely enough in 3 weeks time, I started to see…that it was working. Small changes that you wouldn’t even think about are important started to take place.
Conclusion:
Call the readership of ROK and all of your readers in general to pray to God, Jesus, Allah, the Holy Mother Mary, at the certain time ( but all time-zones to be in the exact same time ) for a certain thing ( Aurelius Moner can help us with what exactly to pray for ).
Europe West : xyz+1
Europe East: xyz
United States: xyz +x
Australia: xyz +x
Asia: xyz +x
Africa:xyz +x
A call to prayer will unite all of them.
Please call us out to do one thing, we can all do and will make us feel united as well.
peace !
You know what would be even better? A call to prayer 5 times a day. And have the readership all pray towards the same direction. Also, during a certain time of the year have us all fast in unity. But only after sunrise and before sunset. Just imagine how unified we will all be!
Really funny.
You sexually obsessed screw-ball, you !
No prayers to Allah, you heretic
what about the american rappers like Gang Starr?
Guru was a muslim…
He wouldn’t cut off anybody’s head off ….
I feel like if you want to get to the root of the modern world, it really helps to look at that era. Which by the way, was followed by 2 popes and an Inquisition and a plague.
The Inquisition expelled all European occupying Muslims, who enslaved Christians, and their joo enablers, many of whom were crypto- or secretly practicing Talmud, but openly professed to be Christian.
Europe rejoiced and the dark ages were over once they were both expelled from Europe
Freemasonry and the Knights Templar could not be more different from one another. While they both may be “secret societies,” the former is, at the core, downright satanic. Not that the individual members are all aware of this, but at the heart of Freemason philosophy that grew out of the so-called Enlightenment is to separate Man from God and His Church, through religious indifferentism. Conduct Over Creed, which is also the true American motto; it doesn’t matter what you believe, so long as you’re a nice guy who doesn’t push his morality.
Satan isn’t all about black masses and human sacrifice. All that crap is icing on the cake. All he wants you to do is miss the goal, and it doesn’t take much for you to miss. Just a slight angle shift by a degree, and you’re his. So long as you’re alive, he’s going to keep you missing, to do whatever it takes to keep you off aim. And then, when you die, you’re his. Forever. And, Satan may seem to like you here, now, but he absolutely hates you and I with a hatred we can never understand.
If the Knights Templar were off the rails in any regard, it might be that they could’ve dabbled into the occult, had a hand in spreading heresy, and possibly conducted Usury, which is forbidden under Christian teaching. Usury is the lending of money at interest. Their secrecy made them a bit vulnerable in that regard; people don’t trust anything held secret from them. I tend to believe the notion that Phillip IV wanted to wipe out his debts he owed them. And why not kill them, if you have the means?
I agree templars and freemasons are completely different worlds. So it is very hard to believe they had anything to do with each other. The dark connection between them was invented during the Enlightenment era and unfortunately survives until today. Not surprising given that a man without faith is prone to believe anything. Though as a vacation reading books like the one in the OP might be funny.
I rather disagree with the last paragraph. The Templars had nothing to do with the occult and did not spread heresy. They really were devout Catholics. Also they probably did not engage in usury (btw. usury is not lending money for interest in general, only under certain circumstances).
What destroyed them was their power and wealth, all under the command of pope. The Hundred Years’ War with the English was very expensive and pope Boniface was an enemy to Philip IV. At one point he tried to put French clergy against the pope, then tried to get the new pope under his influence (unsuccessfully). By destruction of Templars he could win on many levels: get money to pay his debt, weaken the pope significantly, get the Church under his control. The whole history is complicated and the pope played a positive role (in spite of what the OP suggests).
And, of course, the Templars were innocent of the charges though the Order would be cancelled anyway due to certain scandals (not heresies) made publicly known and their honor demaged. It is reasonable to believe many of the knights ended up in other military orders like the (in later times called) Knights of Malta. They probably did not engage in creating secret societies.
Guys I need some serious advice/help. Sorry in advance English is not my native language. I’m 21 y.o. and “considering myself” a gay person. But, after reading this blog and other manosphere blogs for about 6 months now, truth has hit me. HARD. I’m not the entitled special snowflake that leftist propaganda has made me believe I am. And naturally, I’ve started to question every single belief that I’ve taken for granted until now, including my own “sexual orientation”, which hinders my Journey to become the MAN that God intended me to be.
I remember fancying girls as a young 4-7 y.o boy. But once my father went working in some remote cities. The aunts took the responsibilty of educating me, with all that it ensues : taking up their manners, way of speaking, ideals, playing with girls only… To having solely girl friends through high-school and college.
And today I’ve decided to post on here because I don’t know where to begin nor what to believe. I’m really, really looking forward to hear your opinions and suggestions.
Spend some time knowing yourself, away from other people, the “masses”, and their language (television, newspapers, technologies, etc.). Sexual life is only a part of human existance, it should not define you at all. However, there is a pressure coming from our days’ culture to make you accept a “label” as soon as possible, so that they can manipulate you into fitting the stereotype.
I know you’ll think: yeah, but this is an important issue for me and I am already 21 and everybody of my age is doing this and that. Screw it. Everybody makes mistakes, and not only when they have sexual orientation issues. Even when they do it all “by the book”, they sometimes get all the wrong results from doing so.
I am saying: know who you are, and your beliefs. Then, set major goals for your life (is building a family important for you? What type of family?). Mind the adjustments each choice will bring you (which kind of friends and people will try to engulf you in their groups [ultra-religious groups?/ lonely leftist loosers who are always seeking one new cadet for their ranks?], which others will you loose).
We are humans. Humans have a unique, personal sense of aesthetics, and for most of us, the human body is a fascinating piece of art, regardless of gender, race, even age or integrity. Of course, from all the bodies we admire, there are those who deserve a more intimate kind of reverence, in a sexual manner. But that is not enough or even a good way to build an active sexuality. Imagine those who are attracted to married people, to children (or incapacitated people, etc.). -> of course, this is an obvious example of how simple desire is not the GOOD first step towards sexuality. What should you seek, then? A complementary, spiritual reasoning for your sexuality. Not necessarily what is defined as romantic love, but spiritual completness, BEYOND aesthetical admiration. In the sense, I am a male, I understand myself as a “conquering nature”, I seek “conquerable nature”, which is female. Love comes after this, when you start a selection of a single individual person who is the “ideal” among all the complementary natures available.
I know some bright, intelligent, overall respectable, socially well integrated homossexual people. I know they were led into their lives by Society. The fact is, they accpeted that label, and with it, they were forced into lives that everybody can deem “normal”, but which are as unfulfilling for them as their previous condition (before being labelled homossexual) was. Yes they can practice sex with people they find beautiful, but they didn’t want to allienate some other people (mostly the other gender: women, who develop a strange resentful, silent pity, and men, who become more disrespectful). Their own partners treat them in “odd ways” to them. One of those friends confessed me a day he felt ridiculous (I had just congratulated him for being so apparently happy). And the social dynamics of people is still strongly influenced by their sexuality (more than the obvious).
In conclusion, you should only live by your rules, don’t let others teach you HOW to be homossexual or heterossexual. Build a complete sexuality, which includes not only sexual attraction, but also its consequences for you and the others. But most importantly, DON’T RUSH things, know more of the world, more people, more ideas, more ways and environments. Strenghten yourself. And then, then look into the mirror and tell the world who you are.
Well sir, I can’t thank you enough for this valuable suggestions. I promise I’ll do my best to instill them in my daily life.
If you have not yet engaged in ass piracy with another dude, rent the most gorgeous FEMALE hooker you can find for an hour. Do this before experimenting with a fag so you do not expose the normal straight population to the GRIDS plague. If you still feel a preference for saggy, hairy balls take a vow of celibacy for the good/heath of society. If some priests and pedos are capable of it so are you.
You’re a fucking liar.
And why I would I lie ?
Same reasons that billions have for millennia.
Maybe the tone of my writing is what put you off (j’aurais bien aimer le publier en français, ça me convient mieux), but I am truly seeking guidance from you guys. In fact I had to repost the same comment on the “5 Things I Learned From My Brothers On How To Raise A Son” article to hear from others.
Best regards.
Si tu cherches vraiement de l’aide, je te conseille de lire ce blog – http://josephsciambra.com/
Who are they? Nobody knows, not even themselves.
https://aventadores.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/mula.jpg
What’s their role in high spheres? “Facilitation”, destruction of Tradition (they use their code to destroy the general code, a supreme machiavellian delicacy). Examples are abundant, from Southern and Western Europe’s last 3 centuries to the USA or even in our days’ banking and academy.
Long term goals? To rebuild the Temple for the(ir) Messiah.
Perhaps a very simple code of three or four points could be developed and refined from group feedback. Then, design a decentralized network (see BATTLE OF ALGIERS film from the 60s) could be implemented. Maybe define a few specific goals or objectives to strive for….
The Masons try to convince us that they are a bunch of jolly good fellas but fail to explain the fact that in 1830 an Anti-Masonic Party was formed and grew so large that it become the third party?
Even today, most fraternal orders are still Catholic. It is probably the biggest weakness of the current Atheist-Protestant ruling order that they couldn’t form these personal bonds.
Not to burst people’s bubbles about the Knights Templar: but they weren’t a secret society like pop culture makes them out to be.
There are many Catholic confraternities that still exist in the world (including the Knights Hospitallier which was founded around the same time as the Templars).
But as a military order meant to protect pilgrims in the Holy Land (because the Saracens were making it difficult for Christian pilgrims, to put it very lightly), they had to keep their methods under wraps, almost like any company today protecting their own trade secrets in case the enemy could move against them.
Now, the Templars were involved with retrieving relics from the Holy Land (to protect them, in case they were destroyed. See what’s happening in ISIS territory right now), such as the house of the Virgin Mary/Saint Anne and Saint Joachim, which is now in the Basilica della Santa Casa in Loreto, Italy. I believe from this relic retrieving grew the idea that the Templars somehow found the Holy Grail and Ark of the Covenant and have it stashed away somewhere (or the alternative theory that the Freemasons have it).
But yeah, they were just a good ol’ Catholic confraternity. Considering the events that are coming to pass in our day and age, there may be a new Catholic Order just like them in the future.
I have always thought of the Masons as a man version of the Boy Scouts. Man Scouts, if you will. The Boy Scouts have their handshakes, silly rituals, special badges, methodical ethics training. Why do people get freaked out by a bunch of white dudes doing ethics training in secret?
Because all of its secrets and rituals were created by anti Christ Joos
Bull. That’s just a democrat myth designed to attack an all white male fraternity. It’s a positive force. The mains make good men great!
Really? The stated goal of freemasonry is the overthrow of Christianity….you silly shabbos goy.
“Jews were actively involved in the beginnings of Freemasonry in America. There is evidence they were among those who established Masonry in seven of the original thirteen states: Rhode Island, New York, Pennsylvania, Maryland, Georgia, South Carolina, and Virginia.
A Jewish Mason, Moses Michael Hays, helped introduce the Masonic Scottish Rite in America. Paul Revere served under him as Deputy Grand Master. There were several other Jews who held the masonic titles in the late 1700’s: Solomon Bush in Pennsylvania, Joseph Myers in Maryland and later in South Carolina, and Abraham Forst of Philadelphia in Virginia in 1781. Another Jewish Grand Master was Moses Seixas in Rhode Island from 1791 until 1800. There were many other American Jewish Masons in early American history, including one in George Washington’s original Fredericksburg Lodge.
Jewish Masons played an important part in the American Revolution, with 24 of them serving as officers in George Washington’s army. In addition, several helped finance the American cause, including Haym Salomon, a Philadelphia Jewish Mason who with others contributed and raised money for the American war effort and loaned money to Jefferson, Madison, Lee, and others for their personal expenses. Salomon was imprisoned by the British and died in his 40’s bankrupt and with penniless heirs.
There is evidence that Jews, including rabbis, continued to be involved in the Masonic movement in the United States. There have been at least 51 Jewish American Grand Masters. Today there are many Jews active in Masonry in America and other countries. Israel has about 60 Masonic lodges with 3,000 members.
Jews had also been involved to a small extent in the formation of modern Freemasonry in the early 1700’s in England. Until then Jews were not permitted to participate in many of the ordinary activities of life. Then the Enlightenment concept of the universality of all people brought about a society where people’s religious beliefs did not affect their rights as citizens. Jews were gradually permitted to exercise the rights of citizenship and to pursue their lives as they wished.
Many Jews viewed joining Freemasonry as part of their “emancipation” from the old legal and social exclusions. Modern Masonry was as much a product of the Enlightenment as the emancipation of Jews. Many society leaders were Freemasons and if Jews could join this fraternity that would prove they were being accepted. They could also use the opportunities presented by their participation in a social organization with Christians to prove the two could prosper by their association. Freemasonry’s philosophy of the brotherhood of all people indicated Masonry would accept Jews as members.
There are many common themes and ideals in Masonic and Jewish rituals, symbols, and words:
Belief in G-d, prayer, immortality of the soul, charity, and acting respectfully to all people are essential elements of Freemasonry as well as Judaism, and of course other religions too.
Masonry and Judaism, as well as other religions and statements of ethical standards, teach that we must discipline ourselves and keep our passions in check. Jewish masons follow rituals in synagogues and in Masonic lodges to help them develop this ability.”
The FAQ would would like to thank David Kaufman ([email protected]) for providing this information; the full text of the presentation may be obtained from him. The full text is online at http://www.bessel.org/masjud.h….
Your statement: “Belief in G-d, prayer, immortality of the soul, charity, and acting
respectfully to all people are essential elements of Freemasonry as well
as Judaism, and of course other religions too.”
I have no problem with this at all. Totally compatible with Christianity and the American Way. I have serious doubts that George Washington was a co-conspirator with the jews to turn America (which didn’t exist yet) into some modern hitech antichrist empire.
That’s because you’re not joo wise. They worship Satan, not God…
Rosenthal says, “Most Jews do not like to admit it, but our god is Lucifer…and we are his chosen people. Lucifer is very much alive.”
Interview in entirety:
http://www.antichristconspiracy.com/HTML%20Pages/Harold_Wallace_Rosenthal_Interview_1976.htm
Great article Roosh. Let’s make secret brotherhoods great again!
Check The Vigilant Citizen’s site, dedicated to similar themes. His article on the movie “Eyes Wide Shut” is two parts and is thoroughly entertaining, even if you don’t buy his theories.
Let’s be fucking honest here. Freemasons are just Goyims used by Jews to make their plans advance. High ranking masons are Jewish.
There is much to learn from Templars. For example:
They accepted only knights because only knights had sufficient military training (since childhood) and experiences. They did not accept children to the Order, not even young men. They were very elitist. Imagine an experienced knight, for some reason dissatisfied with the world — that was a perfect adept for becoming a knight templar.
They suppressed individuality and emphasised service to others and self-sacrifice. Uniform clothes, weapons, haircut etc. Almost no personal money (that’s why people entrusted their money to them). No distraction, only duties, training and prayer many hours a day. That made of them a very disciplined military body of that age. A secular knight was a good fighter but usually a proud and undisciplined person which caused mediaeval battles to be a great mess. The Templar was a different kind of knight, very effective and much more disciplined in battle.
Though often called fanatics they used to be very good diplomats and they knew their region (Middle East), local rulers and relationships among them very well. That’s not something one would expect from a blind fanatic.
It is said that with small but dedicated group of men one can do anything. Well, maybe not. The Templars were an elite loved and admired through the entire Christendom. They were considered to have the best of the knight and the monk, the higher stratas of their world (nobility and clergy). They were on the top of the social pyramid. And yet they failed because they were not able to hold the Holy Land against the enemy which was the only purpose of their existence.
They failed because the church and kings namely the king of France seen them as a threat. Nothing to do with not holding the holy land. They had far out grown their original purpose.
The Church certainly did not see them as a threat. They were something like pope’s military power. I call a failure the fact they had to abandon Holy Land because defending it was their sole purpose and they never give up on trying to get back. Of course, the loss wasn’t their fault but the bitterness among them was real. It is an interesting fact that once the Order started to transform itself to a financial institution their leadership became divided and knightly virtues started to decline. Philip used this weakness against them.
Very interesting article, I had actually been thinking for a long time that what we in the West really need (along with Trump style populism and the nationalist political parties as well as Counter-Cultural treature troves like ROK and others) is a ‘secret society’ of our own. Obviously we do not possess either the resources or the time to create our own ‘version’ of freemasonry (nor will the State allow us the same guaruntee of anonymity) but I believe a semi-secret fraternal group that is focused around a common set of simple rituals and liturgy and which can act as a meeting space for discussions around various issues which afflict us on all levels (from politics to nutrition and even business) would take our ‘movement’ (which broadly speaking is masculist pro-western nationalist traditionalism encompassing various sub-currents) from being an on-line one to one with a real social basis.
I’d really like to hear other people’s thoughts on this as it is something I have been mulling over for some time and this article appeared just at the point that I was seriously considering trying it IRL (;-)) My basic idea is to have a fixed set of rites and rituals which are based on simple eternal principles which can be summed up in a phrase as Order Against Chaos and which would honour all of our Western tradition (pagan and Christian). This, along with a simple ‘lodge’ structure could then be implemented by anyone who is willing to either hire out a suitable space for a few hours (NOT expensive at least in my country, the UK, and so probably not anywhere!) for the purpose or has a space of their own. These meetings would be followed by fraternal meals in which all kinds of ideas can be discussed and the rituals plus the sense of belonging to a community (in order to join you would have to agree to a set of basic points which would ensure this without being TOO restrictive) would organically LEAD to a lot of the political and cultural changes I think all of us (whether conservative, libertarian or nationalist) desire.
Anyway I am working on potential liturgical and ritualistic material at the moment (although due to my work I would not be able to personally implement anything for a few months at least) But I would love to hear whether people think this is, generally, a good idea or not (I know this is a very broad outline but I have it worked out in far more detail) . I have seen that the key thing is spreading our ideas in the wider world and I firmly believe the time is ripe for this kind of thing and if people are interested I am willing (in the UK) to get the ball rolling this year. (my view is that if people are only willing to lend their energy to it it WILL work). Sorry for the rambling but I came across this post and felt I had to write something straight away whilst it is still relatively new! (Please reply if interested!)
Very interesting article, I had actually been thinking for a long time
that what we in the West really need (along with Trump style populism
and the nationalist political parties as well as Counter-Cultural
treature troves like ROK and others) is a ‘secret society’ of our own.
Obviously we do not possess either the resources or the time to create
our own ‘version’ of freemasonry (nor will the State allow us the same
guaruntee of anonymity) but I believe a semi-secret fraternal group
that is focused around a common set of simple rituals and liturgy and
which can act as a meeting space for discussions around various issues
which afflict us on all levels (from politics to nutrition and even
business) would take our ‘movement’ (which broadly speaking is masculist
pro-western nationalist traditionalism encompassing various
sub-currents) from being an on-line one to one with a real social basis.
I’d really like to hear other people’s thoughts on this as it is
something I have been mulling over for some time and this article
appeared just at the point that I was seriously considering trying it
IRL (;-)) My basic idea is to have a fixed set of rites and rituals
which are based on simple eternal principles which can be summed up in a
phrase as Order Against Chaos and which would honour all of our Western
tradition (pagan and Christian). This, along with a simple ‘lodge’
structure could then be implemented by anyone who is willing to either
hire out a suitable space for a few hours (NOT expensive at least in my
country, the UK, and so probably not anywhere!) for the purpose or has a
space of their own. These meetings would be followed by fraternal meals
in which all kinds of ideas can be discussed and the rituals plus the
sense of belonging to a community (in order to join you would have to
agree to a set of basic points which would ensure this without being TOO
restrictive) would organically LEAD to a lot of the political and
cultural changes I think all of us (whether conservative, libertarian or
nationalist) desire.
Anyway I am working on potential liturgical
and ritualistic material at the moment (although due to my work I would
not be able to personally implement anything for a few months at least)
But I would love to hear whether people think this is, generally, a
good idea or not (I know this is a very broad outline but I have it
worked out in far more detail) . I have seen that the key thing is
spreading our ideas in the wider world and I firmly believe the time is
ripe for this kind of thing and if people are interested I am willing
(in the UK) to get the ball rolling this year. (my view is that if
people are only willing to lend their energy to it it WILL work). Sorry
for the rambling but I came across this post and felt I had to write
something straight away whilst it is still relatively new! (Please reply
if interested!)
It is unfortunate that Freemasonry is an integral part of the global Illuminati conspiracy. But Freemasonry does provide a useful model for how other groups with unpopular views need to organize and swear oaths of loyalty and secrecy in order to stand a chance against those in power.