Websites for “sugar babies” have become trendy, thanks to modern technology, declining public morals, and an unbalanced sexual marketplace which exacerbates female entitlement complex. It’s a hot new way to profit tremendously from simply being a girlfriend—or at the least, going through some of the motions.
However, sometimes this modern NC17 version of Cinderella can have some interesting twists.
Get Rich Quick
As The Sun write-up begins:
“I’m tired of boys our age” I sighed, tossing my phone onto the couch. My friend laughed at my frustration.
At 18, I was fed up with the immaturity of teenage boys I’d meet in town. I wanted an older man who knew how to treat a woman properly.
I was saving every penny I earned at my sales job to go travelling in Australia, so it would be nice to find a man who could spoil me whilst I saved.
“You should try this dating site I’m on,” my friend suggested, handing me her phone. I glanced at the browser she had opened.
So this eighteen year old working a sales gig began her quest to be “spoiled”. Ordinary chicks thinking ordinary guys aren’t good enough for them? I’m shocked, shocked!
Being cute—and barely legal, of course—Anna Ryan was in a position to make some serious bank. Let’s face it—if that wasn’t the idea, there are plenty of conventional matchmaking sites focusing on compatibility or looks, rather than “generous” guys. If the “sugar baby” sites are sausage fests like traditional online dating, then that too works in favor of those desiring to milk a “beta bucks” relationship for everything it’s worth.
After creating a profile, she got a reply pretty quickly. This was James Walsh, a stock trader who made 50 million pounds a year, drove a Lamborghini, and even owned a gold mine. Looks like she hit the jackpot right away! How did the whirlwind romance go?
What followed was an incredible seven months of text messages and some phone calls, with her finances being one of the topics. Mere mortals struggle to maintain even a week of text game without things going cold. They’ll usually put things on the back burner if they haven’t closed the deal after months. So, apparently the rules change when online dating starts to look like high-stakes gambling.
At long last, they met up. No Lamborghini though; it was in the shop getting a flat fixed. She noticed his watch, which looked like a gold Rolex, and on the date he took some calls relating to his high finance job; surely this piqued her interest.
They met for a second date. The Lambo was still out for repairs, which seemed slightly odd. She took him home for drinks, and (as you might guess) he spent the night. All seemed well, and he mentioned taking her on an upcoming vacation.
However, there was a little snag. Specifically, he had to pay a court fine.
Too good to be true
Not exactly Bernie, but…
“James Walsh” said he had to pay five thousand pounds, but was unable because the legal trouble got his bank accounts frozen. If unpaid, he could go to prison. When she was reluctant to “loan” him the money, he got aggro and even threatened suicide. Likely she would’ve been on an emotional roller coaster by then; standard operating procedure for an experienced fraudster. She complied, and he cleaned out her bank account.
A more level-headed assessment would’ve set off the bullshit detectors. A legal matter meriting a £5000 fine probably wouldn’t be enough to have bank accounts frozen. Further, an actual rich guy should’ve had several other resources available to pay it. Prior to that, some basic fact-checking would’ve been prudent. Even ordinary people usually have a substantial digital paper trail. She could’ve called his office to see if he really worked there.
After doing some research a little too late, Anna found the answer quickly. This wasn’t the first time he’d run this scam. This crook defrauded eight other known marks. As the Daily Mail write-up concludes:
Feeling overwhelmed by what happened, Miss Ryan, who now lives in Dubai, searched his number on the internet and discovered he was not James Walsh and found a forum about a conman called David Overton, who scammed young women.
She and eight other victims testified against him in February last year and Overton pleaded guilty to fraud and was jailed for 15 months.
Fifteen months seems a fairly light rap for ripping off so many people, possibly totaling enough to afford a real chick magnet car. Still, it’s an encouraging sign that British law enforcement is actually doing more than investigating trifling matters while turning a blind eye to loathsome crimes by immigrants. Anyway, hopefully David Overton learned his lesson and will henceforth make money working productively.
This Dubai thing seems a little curious, though. Did she find a better-paying retail job there, or is it something else?
Something for nothing
On the other side of the equation, it’s quite possible that “sugar babies” will one day acquire a reputation for receiving payments but not delivering their precious goodies. With merely an ambiguous understanding, what could a scammed “sugar daddy” do? Buyer beware!
However, the greater problem is that “sugar dating”—what some call soft prostitution—is inherently skeezy and immoral. Websites with a worldwide reach, facilitating maximized perks for highly ambitious cyber-courtesans, have taken gold-digging (and Princess Complex) to a new depth. Trying to win the lottery in bed is basically expecting something for nothing. Overweening pride tempts fate.
Getting paid lavishly for being a girlfriend (more or less) has its appeal to some. Still, participants should be aware they’re getting deep into shady moral and ethical territory, and everything that comes with it. Undoubtedly we’ll be seeing a lot more bullshit on both sides of this mercenary arrangement they seek.
Whatever happened to young ladies looking for promising young gentlemen, whose intelligence and work ethic will bear fruit with a prosperous lifetime for the couple and their children? That’s rhetorical; I already know the answer.
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Stupid gets what stupid deserves. At 18 it is safe to say you know very little. Hope this teaches her a lesson. It won’t though. Women are their worst enemies.
Now she’s in Dubai. I don’t think she’s learned anything.
Soon enough she will become a toilet. Her lack of parents must be so proud.
“Miss Ryan, who now lives in Dubai…”
You take a whore outta the projects, but…
Y’all know the rest.
“who now lives in Dubai”
Thanks for the laugh, Beau!
ROFLOL !!!
KARMA for the stupid bimbo ???
“Whatever happened to young ladies looking for promising young gentlemen, whose intelligence and work ethic will bear fruit with a prosperous lifetime for the couple and their children? That’s rhetorical; I already know the answer.”
So do I Beau, so do I…
Outside of Devout Christian, Morman, and Ammish/Similar communities, you will not find loyal, faithful, dutiful females in the US. Especially if they are even remotely attractive. Bar pigs, clubs sluts, and post wall leftovers. That’s all that’s left. The 60s ruined this country. Ruined it.
Slim, thanks again for your sage words, man! I too believe the 60s (and the Civil War) all but destroyed our civilization in America. And to your point of certain Christian groups still offering up some decent traditionalist women, as a Christian (EOC), I’ve seen (perverted) popular culture ruin many religious denominations within the Christian faith. Mainline Protestantism is dying out, and is a cesspool of social justice and liberalism. Really more of a religious fraternity. Even traditionally conservative evangelical Protestantism (especially megachurches), are becoming feminized (Jesus Love, seeker sensitive theology, etc.) and influenced by popular culture. Despite best efforts by traditionalists in these denominations to combat this, I’ve had evangelical Protestant clergy and seminarians tell me they are seeing more and more liberal encroachment into their churches. My own sister was recently ordained in an evangelical Protestant church as a minister (the epistle of St. Paul, 1 Timothy 2:12, “I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man: she must remain quiet”). She also founded a para-church “walk away wives” Christian grievance based ministry. She teaches self-actualized women to bail on their husbands and children, even for petty reasons, and to pursue their own self-absorbed agendas.
Antonio, as a Catholic (albeit very, very lapsed) I can see that my Church is infected/infested with this liberalism. Has been for quite a while. And the current pope is a disgrace. The Episcopals have had female and gay bishops.
Only the tradtional evangelicals like the Duggars seem to have it right, where the daughters are raised to be faithful and dutiful. Without a sense of duty to husband and family, a female is pretty much worthless. Today’s women would rather have bullsh*t careers doing worthless power point presentation, and then going to TGI Fridays for margaritas and making pigs out of themselves instead of being respectable wives and mothers. A real shame.
Where are these down votes coming from?!!
@ Spaghetti Monster
I suspect one or perhaps a small group of people with whom I have hit a nerve. Maybe not even males…
I can so relate to this. I was raised in this branch of Christianity, and have watched it decay over only a couple of decades. I actually stopped going for a while, so I could untangle the lies from the truth. I’m thinking about going back, but as an agent of change. Good news is the Bible does say that the elect can’t be deceived. Just because the enemy has a hold on the establishment, it doesn’t mean that there aren’t Christians scattered in there who can receive the truth.
It’s not a gradual “spiritual decline” that got it that way: it was an intentional effort. Leftism is all about church.
I don’t believe the 60s are the problem.
I don’t believe morality is the problem either.
Women behave the way they have always behaved.
It’s divorce laws and welfare that are causing the destruction of the west by financing their behaviour.
“divorce laws and welfare that are causing the destruction of the west…”
Yes, and both were greatly enhanced by the legislation of the 60s here in the US.
“Morman”?
“Ammish”?
Learn English.
You really are a “Nazi”, aren’t you?
Keep up the good work, Heinrich.
I need to spell check before hitting the “post” button.
I thought you said MERman at first glance. So it’s all good! Those Mermen have some serious perks! 🙂
“I wanted an older man who knew how to treat a woman properly.”
Translation from Womanese: I wanted a walking ATM.
PS: stay away from girls who are into “travelling”. That’s usually Womanese for “sampling foreign cawk without having my family judge me for that”.
I have no issues being a “walking atm” (within reason – just disposable cash, not touching the FU fund) as long as I am getting a steady supply of tight young pussy out of it.
not only a walking ATM but also a man that has the self confidence to put these girlies on their place, not some beta male …
Well, at a certain point, when you get older, you’ll have to have something in the way of money in order to have a relationship with a much younger woman. Typically, a man well into his 40’s or 50’s will have to spend some money to have a relationship with an 18 year old girl. Because usually at 18, a man’s physical appeal is as important to the girl as what he has in his wallet and she’s more willing to make concessions on a man’s money if he has the requisite physicality. So even if she likes older men, at 18, she can get a 25 or 30 year old man who she finds physically appealing even if he doesn’t have much money. And she’ll be willing to do all sorts of wild, sexual things for him.
A man in his 50s who may be showing visible signs of aging, can’t compete with most younger men in terms of looks and physicality so he has to have something in the way of money (or at least the appearance thereof) to attract younger women.
Once again you are spot on. I know 3 women who love to travel. All “career” women who are single and love to do goofy video logs. Red flags alllllllll over the place. Also definitely some Princess Syndrome from beta orbiters in their lives.
“I love to travel” often means “As long as somebody else is paying for it!”
Years ago, when I was a member of a couple dating sites, one new site I had joined automatically enrolled me in a sugar daddy site without my asking.
I started getting replies right away, with no effort on my part.
One thing I noticed. The women were pretty dang ordinary, at best.
Not sure about you, but if I am paying for a gourmet meal, I want filet mignon and fine wine, not hamburger and cola.
It seems to me, these sites primarily enable prostitutes, regular and amateur, while promoting fantasies of high pricec courtesan.
Rich men who can afford it, already have all the women they want. Men who would be interested can’t afford it, and truly beautiful women don’t need it.
Your story fits mine to a tee! Eight years ago, my then 22 year old niece set up a profile for a then friend of mine, and I, on a local online dating site. We were both 52 at the time. My friend had just been severely divorce rapped, and I, thankfully, am a never married man. It was more for giggles, and I had no desire to meet some old bag my age, nor waste time and money on useless dating and urinating on my shoes. Unbeknown to us, we were also linked to a sugar daddy site as well. Both of us started getting inundated with messages from women all over the USA, and even foreign women. My friend received messages from white women in the 38-45 age range only. In sharp contrast, I received messages from women in the 18-25 year old range only. With the exception of a couple of young white women, the majority were black, Iranian, East Asian, and mullatos (I’m more olive complexion with a salt-n-pepper moustache/goatee, so I get tormented by black women and mullatos, which I would never touch with a ten foot pole). A few of the young women were cute and slender, but they were mostly strippers, escorts, scammers, single mommies, and other nefarious types. To your point and observation, the majority of the women were obese and extremely ugly. They would send unsolicited messages demanding money upfront, entitlements, gifts, and hefty monthly allowances. Nigerian and Ugandan scam artists also inundated us with messages, sending stock photos of pretty white women. I was finally able to get the sugar daddy site in my rear view mirror. My friend was a simp though, and he communicated with some of these vile women, even going as far as to send them money, or booking flights and hotel rooms, only to be stood up, and left holding the bills. He eventually remarried a problematic 40 year old clown haired, tatted and pierced up, pasty skinned liberal hipster woman, and a single mommy with six kids by three different baby daddies. Needless to say, he’s no longer my friend.
Racist much?! You scumbag!
Truth is painful.
Better a racist than a slut!
Want a sugar daddy. Taken for a ride. Off to Dubai.
hmmmmmm……………………..
She’s getting Arab doodoo on her chest.
I put the words ” youngest sugar daddy” on my tinder bio. Suddenly i get tons of matches per week. Its crazy how responsive and sweet women are via text all of a sudden hahaha.
Sounds like your regular game isn’t wprking out too well .
No you don’t david. Stop lying. You write in other comments that you have no issues sleeping with women on both sides of the border etc etc. A guy that has no such issues doesn’t need to sugar daddy anyone for sex. Stop lying.
Both are true. Tinder works much better in Mexico than Southern California i’d Add.
Lol…”Living in Dubai”
Must have found some rich saudi willing to shit on her. Class act.
I, unfortunately, have some insights into this culture. It’s rarely a perfect 10 model making bank off of an Uber rich 1%-er.
The average “Sugar Baby” is about a 7-8 on the looks scale and aged 18-24.
The average “Sugar Daddy” is a middle aged (40-55), middle class (100-300k usd/year) married middle management type.
The usual “arrangement” is sex for money (in the low to mid 100’s of USD, average being $400-$600 per “date” in a major US metro market) + maybe some travel and gifts given to the girl, but mostly they’re meeting up in 3-4 star hotels for “discreet arrangements” lasting a few hours.
These women vacillate between hamstering away at SJW tropes like “sex work is a job like any other,” feeling sorry for themselves, or rationalizing that they’re not prostitutes at all because the Sugar website marketing bullshit says they’re not.
“Sugar Daddies” are usually sad sack beta men in bad marriages looking for easy lays with much younger women, women too naive to realize that $400 for a fuck is a bargain to a guy who can afford to live in the suburbs and make monthly payments on a Honda Odyssey. Think of all the broken homes that result from this culture.
Here you have 20 year old women with the 1000 yard(s of dick) stare dozing their way through gender studies classes at some community college and trudging toward the wall at $500 a pop. Their views on marriage are permanently fucked because of the scores of married men (some with adult kids around the Sugar Baby’s age) who’ve pumped and dumped them in seedy hotel rooms. Or, they lose respect for men because some needy beta her dad’s age thinks he’s in love, texts her constantly, and stalks her on Instagram. These arrangements rarely last more than a few tricks because there’s always a supply of girls to meet the demand and it’s a buyer’s market where Sugar Daddies mostly set the market price by virtue of not actually being rich. Further, most of these women attempt to have “vanilla” relationships with guys their own age; they either keep their hooking a secret from their boyfriends or openly support a guy’s lazy man-child ass in a “momma provider” role.
In 10 years, don’t be surprised to see a high rate of burned out post-wall former Sugar Babies trying to score a Lifetime movie of the week based on their experiences.
In my opinion, I’ll break from my libertarian leanings and opine this regarding the sex market: what happened to Backpages in the US should apply to these sugar dating sites. If a woman wants to be a hooker, she can either sign up at a brothel or put in her time on the street — no more of this “dabbling with an app” and turning a few tricks before she’s even 21 bullshit.
How old are you Fred?
I am guessing 35 or under.
Wait till you get into your 40s, 50s and 60s. Even 70s.
The need for tight young pussy will NEVER wane.
A wrinkled post wall slut will never do.
I am in my early 50s and I am glad young girls like this need the money. And I am happy to pay them for that tight young slit. And you will too, when you get to be a certain age. Unless you can stomach banging a wrinkled old bag in her forties.
I wouldn’t do that even if I were 90.
AUTOMATIC
True, but young guys should have sex with one older woman in their life.
These guys are young and have never experienced the kind of sexperts in middle age.
I mean the first time (90’s) I got blown by an girl of the 70’s who knew the deep throat trick it was mind expanding.
DEEP THROAT passed out of cultural awareness in the 80’s and Lovelace was forgotten but man the women who came of age in the 70’s knew how to perform it.
So for the learning experience then?
Yeah, that sounds like a decent plan.
A young guy should use a post wall slut when in late teens or early 20s only to gain sexual knowledge. Then ditch ’em and leave ’em to their cats and book clubs. Not bad.
I am 47. I speak from direct experience.
I also belatedly found my moral compass and I actually now give a fuck about the younger generation.
Caring about others and wanting tight young poon are two separate issues.
If I care about a pretty, petite 20 year old and my money pays for her to learn a decent trade like medical technician or dental assistant or hair dresser, does it make me a bad guy that I am banging her for said money?
IMO, no it does not.
Great original post up there Fred, more insightful than the article.
But IMO an individual boycott can’t save the culture. Once a girl has decided to whore, she’s a whore, so doing business with her does no further damage. If you don’t use her, some other guy will. Saving future generations would require a total cultural revolution.
My problem with whore mongering is it degrades the man’s dignity. However, given that marriageable women (virgins) over 18 don’t exist today, I think men can honestly blame the feminist culture, and monger for sport with a clear conscience.
Slim, Tom Leykis advocated this concept. Younger men abstain from having girlfriends, sleep with old bags, establish themselves in careers, trades, or entrepreneurship, then in their 30s find younger 18-24 year old women who are looking for older men. I was never a fan of his atheism, his call for promiscuity (although I understand exactly where he came from) , or his somewhat liberal political bend, but he did have deep realistic insight into modern women and their shenanigans, and from an amoral pragmatic perspective, does make sense on that level.
I am 25 and sometimes I still pay for sex. If a guy is rich he’s not a beta, the only betas are those who waste their time chasing pussy.
As I said in a comment above, at a certain point, especially the older you get, you are going to have to pay to play. It’s very rare you’ll see an 18 or 20 year old girl with a 50 something man, unless he’s spending money on her. So I have no problem with what these guys are doing. Typically if a 20 year old says she likes “older men”, it’s generally guys in their mid 20’s maybe to mid 30s who have a relatively youthful appearance. Rarely does she mean a 55 year old.
Also, I don’t think these girls are victims or whatever. They are just reaping the results of their greed. No, these men aren’t “taking advantage” of them. These girls always have the option of going without the money. This is what was fought for. The right of women to have choices on what they do with their body. This is all they are doing, choosing what they do with their own body.
In 20-25 years when I’m in my 50’s, I’ll have no hang up about paying a college girl (who may or may not even be born at the typing of this post) to have sex with. Unless I end up being the top 1 percent of middle age men in terms of looks or science has advanced to where I can look 20-25 years younger than my true age, I got to do what I got to do.
“…I got to do what I got to do.”
Oh, watch it there Harold!
I said the same thing on the previous article and the down votes came in droves. Lots of “PUAs” out there who HATE the idea of a well off older guy using his hard earned disposable income to get what he wants. Or maybe they are not really “PUAs” at all…Just barroom jerks who have to settle for 5s and 6s.
You know, in my Incel youth I had to pay hookers for sex.
Now that I am older (39) all I want is to get my money back and to fuck for free.
It is simply surprising that people are following a different path about that, is all.
It is your money at the end of the day.
Can I thumbs up this comment 100 times?
I’ve had the same thought myself. I also love the look on my little feminazi sisters faces when I’m dating someone 10 years younger than them muahaha
My first wife was barely 24 when we married, and 20 years younger than I. She looked even younger.
I got some real shocked looks, and comments.
Because she looked so young, when asked her age, I would reply, “She is 17, but a MATURE 17”
Used to leave them gulping in shock.
Great comment.
I was on Instagram and this 18 year old miss “certain California City” was doing a live broadcast to her followers. HB 10 with some big brand modeling gigs already. Tons of dudes were commenting how beautiful she was and I finally said “ are you looking for a young good looking sugar daddy?” She called all her friends over to read it and they were all asking me questions about gifts and vacations. It’s kinda sad how excited they got over my bullshitting . It’s also kinda fucked up I was saying it lol
There already has been a Lifetime movie called “Sugarbabies.”
Females need status and males need approval, hence the sexual transaction. The more the quantity the better it is, or so the animal brain thinks, until it all backfires.
The older and more experienced you get, the more picky you get.
I am not as easily aroused now, (early 60’s) as in my youth. I require more from the experience just blessed relief.
I can say that my tastes in women are broader. Yeah, I still love that fabulous, tight young poon. But an older woman can be very pleasing too. Problem with older women is there ate so very few who are attractive enough to make the bar, and most of those have tons of baggage and ulterior motives. The bait aint worth the bite.
This kind of thing has gone on throughout history. The net just makes it easier.
Didn’t Kyle Trouble post an ROK article or two about banging a lot of chicks with this pretend sugar daddy technique? I guess it works, but seems risky and not worth all the mental stress. Better to just pay an escort.
Where was her bio daddy? Why didn’t she consult her bio daddy on what to do?
Behold the success of feminism!
This phenomenon reminds me of a story I once heard many years ago as a much younger man working in the Plant Engineering Department of a petrochemical company. I worked with a crusty old millwright, but his bark was bigger than his bite, and his knowledge and work ethic was far superior than any of the frat boy Mechanical and Electrical Engineers I worked with that spent their days screwing up and screwing off. Strangely, we became friends. He was a combat WWII veteran (fought at the Battle of the Bulge). I’m certain he’s long passed away by now. One day, our conversation came upon feminism and modern women (it was the mid-80s Reagan years then). I was a young man who was frustrated with spinning my wheels and peeing on my shoes with women. He told a story that went like this. A wealthy much older man noticed a very young beautiful woman at a cocktail party. He approached her, and chatted her up. In the middle of the conversation he asked her “would you sleep with me for $10,000”? “Well, yes I would, for $10,000” was her reply. The wealthy older gentleman then asked her “would you sleep with me for $1.00”? She replied “no, who do you think I am”? His reply was “young lady, we’ve already established who you are, now we are merely negotiating”. The old millwright concluded with this moral “whether she’s a $10 crack whore, or a $1,000 whore, a whore is still a whore”. As crude as he was, there is truth in what he said.
I heard of Winston Churchill saying something like that. Looks like the story got around 🙂
Did he say it to Charles de Gaulle’s wife?
I bet you would bang an old lady too, if she gave you $10.000, but not if she gave you $1. Would that make you a whore? Everybody has his price. The difference is, most likely nobody would pay for sex with you.
Whores will be Whores and unfortunately most women are Whores these days.
Why don’t I care?
She’s a young and likely above average woman. She gets plenty of dick and that pussy will prevent her from ever being homeless and always allow her to latch on to an average guy who has his basic shit together. Despite struggling to save and get to Australia, and losing 5,000 she somehow had enough money to get to Dubai and enough opportunity to stay there.
In terms od lifes setbacks: This guy conning 5k from her is equivalent to someone taking my meal in front of me.
Much as I hate to admit it, I actually feel some pity for these girls.
Yes, modern women can and all-too-often do make men’s lives a nightmare, but I’ve said this before and I’ll keep saying it: this is the result of the brainwashing, from the day they were born (a twenty-year-old would have been born in 1998- consider the feminist culture she was raised in, non-stop), by Baby Boomers. And Baby Boomers are going to get away with it all.
This is why, now that Generation X and Generation Y sort of have an active movement against this sort of thing, I will NOT allow Baby Boomer men to try and “lead.” Where were they for the past fifty years when this sort of thing really started, and kept getting worse?
I have to politely disagree with one point.
Ok, the culture is as you say it is, but it is NOT an excuse for degenerate behavior.
The left always uses age as an excuse to indulge in degenerate behavior, as in “she is 18/21 whatever. But when the behavior poisons their lives, all of a sudden they are ignorant hapless victims?
Nah.
Look at this website. At all the fugged over men. Every last one of them have been put through the grinder by a woman, or women. Lots of anger and resentment.
Why?
Because of three facts.
1) Women have made any interaction between the sexes toxic. Forget love and trust.
2) There is no getting around the fact that its morally wrong, and they know it, but do it anyway. This by itself is damning.
3) AWALT- Its so nearly universal that there is next to no difference.
Women can be bought. If not for money, for some other commodity.
Sad, but cynicism has become the rule for men.
wamen brought this shit on themselves
But my perspective was different from most here.
I’ve been on this world for half a century. That means I was born in 1966. Yes, there was what we now call “political correctness” even in the 1970s, but compared to today…trust me, if I could take a Millenial back in time with me to 1978 I might just as well bring him to the planet Mongo to meet Ming the Merciless and some Hawkmen, it was so different.
Thus, I have actually seen what to many here is merely history. And ironically one of the reasons males here are here (aside from those “trolling” the site) is because of the feminist obsession with girls: boys were simply ignored (when they weren’t being drugged for ADD/ADHD or whatever they call it now) because only girls mattered.
But what does this MEAN, Little Hugger? It means that girls were also subjected to immense feminist brainwashing in the name of equality. From the time they were born millions of girls have been subjected to a systematic brainwash that would have made Disney’s “Little Hans” seem like a Daffy Duck cartoon.
You can only oppose a brainwash if you have a different perspective, an alternative, one you are actually allowed to get involved in or it’s merely hypothetical. Look what happens when college kids try to put together a male only club, look what happened to that Honey Badger Brigade meeting in Canada a few years ago, look what happened to Roosh a while back- trust me, many kids, especially girls, never had a chance.
Problem is, young men today have no choice but to deal with modern women the way they are now- and the Baby Boomer media and academics will condemn them for it. Even merely ignoring women today will count as a form of “abuse.”
And which generation pushed this?
Girls tend to go along with social programming more readily than men, although men can and do fall victim to it as well, just not as readily. More often than not, when you find a view point which goes against the grain, it most likely is coming from a man. Rarely does it come from a woman. Before atheism became popular, who were your few atheists for the most part? Men. That’s just one example.
Likely because since women tended to depend on the group or on a man for her well being or survival, she tended to readily adopt the opinion of the group or man she depended on. Voicing contrary views could’ve led to her being exiled from the group and subsequently starving to death.
In 1960, over 90 percent of girls were married by age 21. If you were walking around Anytown, USA in 1960 and spotted a girl who appeared that age or older, odds are, she was taken. By age 30, she’d been married 10, 12, 14 years. Divorce wasn’t common and at that time, if it happened, tended to be the fault of the husband. So one of the only reasons a woman would be single in her 30’s or up is she divorced her husband because he was an abusive alcoholic or she was widowed. If she was a single mom, it usually was from a previous marriage.
But back then, girls were expected to look for a husband almost right out of high school and the older women in her family began grooming her at the start of puberty to be a wife. This was the societal expectation and women just went along with it, no questions asked. One older lady who died about 15 years ago in her 80’s said that in the town where she was from, it was common for girls to get married at about 16 years old. She was getting to be considered “an old maid” because she didn’t marry until 18. Her husband was killed in WW2 and she was in her 30s when she remarried again. Before her first marriage, she said her mom took her to the doctor to have her examined to make sure she’d been a “good girl” if you get my drift.
Today, society expects women to “have fun” in their teens, 20s even until their mid 30s and then worry about finding a husband. Of all the girls graduating high school this year, how many do you think are looking to get married after graduation? For them, that thought is at least 10-12 years away. And quite honestly, no normal male or female is going to wait 10-20 years after the start of puberty to have sex. That’s totally unrealistic. If a girl hits puberty at 13, it’s unlikely she’s going to go through her teens and 20s saving it for marriage. Especially in an environment where women are given permission to be promiscuous.
Am I the only that was triggered by “seven months of text messages and phone calls” before they actually met up to (possibly) bang?
These hordes of desperate beta simps have to be castrated and banned from all social media because thanks to them women’s egos have already reached Andromeda and are still picking up speed.
Being a Sugardaddy is so Beta I can not even start to explain, because where should I start?
Stupid fucks spoiling these bitches who should be happy if getting fucked for a Big Mac.
How is it beta if the arrangement permits consistent sex with a young, fit, attractive female?
(I would generally avoid it, since VERY FEW sugar babies are my type. But I’m weird. Normal dudes can do quite well with “pay for play.” It’s def. MUCH, MUCH better than fucking some gross, bitchy, saggy, forty-year-old cunt).
Unfortunately, some sugar daddies pay for platonic companionship. Now that’s beta as fuck. We can both agree on that.
Beta, as in “Beta Bux”.
Seduce them and fuck them so that they love your dick inside them, that is Alfa.
I am not against it, make no mistake. It just not my cup of tea. I paid hookers during all of my Incel youth. All I want now from the female half of the world is to get my money back. 🙂
The only middle age guys I see who can really appeal to younger women without having to spend a lot of money are the hyper manly type who’s like a throwback to the “when men were men” time. You know, the 50 year old guy who’s a mechanic or does some type of blue collar or factory type work, can do more pull ups and outlift his 18 and 25 year old sons, beat them in a fight, when in a group of guys 20, 30 years younger they look up to him, probably voted for Trump, uses racial slurs at least at home, likes beer and hard liquor etc. If it were in pre historic times, he’d be leading the younger guys to war or be a tribal elder. Still has a full head of hair or maybe completely bald, not balding.
Those type of older guys are usually the type who can still bang women in their 20’s and not have to be extravagantly wealthy. Gray side burns on them don’t look “old” but “distinguished”. Now your all too common middle aged, mid-management office worker that’s a dime a dozen in NYC and L.A. who’s balding and has a beer gut is the one who has no chance with younger women.
Depends on the age of the man in question. Realistically, for various reasons, most 50-60 something men aren’t going to have a sexual relationship with a girl in her teens, 20s maybe even early to mid 30s without spending some type of money. I recently read an article about a 56 year old man having an affair with his 17 year old student. He was giving her about 300 dollars a month and was spending money taking her shopping, etc. That’s not a small fortune by any means, but let us be cereal, most 56 year old men aren’t getting in the panties of a 17 year old girl unless he’s spending money on her.
“with his 17 year old student.”
Don’t underestimate the power of an authority figure to women, especially in the classroom.
As a former teacher that disgusts me. A teacher should act responsibly towards his students and not abuse his power in the classroom be his students 17 or 34.
Private lessons in the home for adults are fair game, however.
I don’t think a man using his “authority” to get women is any way different from a woman using her beauty to get a man. I’m sure a dictator like Kim Jong in North Korea throws his weight around to get women all the time. Whether it’s unethical or not, I don’t know, but that thinking goes along the lines of “sexual relationships should always be between equals” kind of thinking. Women always want a man who has something over them, even if it’s just physicality.
Why is it beta?
Look at the game side. You spend a lot of time, money finding and gaming girls. No one has a 100% success rate, so you are “paying” a certain cost per attempt in both money and time, successful or not. Not to mention the mental ups and downs.
Get your self a sugar daddy arrangement, and you should have fixed, known costs. You don’t need to game, invest lots of time and effort, not knowing if, or how well or how attractive.
Our culture has devolved to the point where sex is almost purely a commodity, and only the naïve are romantic and looking for marriage. Paying for it, with an arrangement, or professional prostitute, is simply the most efficient and businesslike way.
I have some sympathy only because she is just 18.
If she were over 27, zero sympathy.
Interesting angle, maybe I’ll try it myself, but I’ll just steal the sex, nothing illegal about that.
Aristotle placed ideal age of men at about 38 for men and 18 for women to get married. That’s actually how sexual attraction is supposed to work, biologically speaking. Modern culture has confused us into shaming (normal) relationships between older men and younger women. That’s why you get perversions like “Sugar Daddy”/”Sugar baby.” In an ideal world, it wouldn’t be the case.
Well, if I were a thirty-eight-year-old man, I would NOT want to marry an eighteen-year-old girl. One, she’d be a PIA to deal with (as a wife), given her lack of experience. I’d have to teach her survival skills. No thanks. Not interested in raising a wife-child. Also, i wouldn’t want to domesticate her (even though I’d have to…for my own sanity), since it would kill her crazy, endearing youthfulness. Even worse, she’d (most likely) get FAT.
I’d much prefer to keep an eighteen year old as a short-term side chick/gf……somebody for sex/frivolity, but not somebody for anything serious.
Jackson,
Back before I knew any better, hot 18 year olds and around that age, were first prize in the game. But, experience made me jaded, and I got tired of their presence when we were not actually doing it.
What finally put the cap on it was discovering Asian ladies and marrying a Filipina!
You can find and marry a young Filipina and not regret it. My wife was 24, and I was 44. She had none of that endless party attitude, nor the “what have you done for me lately?” sense of entitlement.
Filipinas WANT marriage. They WANT kids. They WANT family, and are perfectly willing to pitch in and work for it.
Having said that, leftism is poisoning everything, and you can easily find a bad one in the Philippines as here. Our culture rot is very toxic. But I do think most of the men here should not have to worry. They have been inoculated in the crucible that passes for love and marriage.
Maybe its not for everyone, but for me, once you have gone Asian, you will never look back. Its what the experience should be.
Well your preference is in the context of modern times. If this were the 1930’s, you’d probably think different about being a 38 year old man marrying an 18 year old girl. But now days, even though I don’t see anything wrong with having a LTR with a girl that’s at least the minimum AOC (16 in my state) but I know that it’s not realistic for anything long term because of the way society is. In general, I’d say a girl under 24, 25 shouldn’t be considered if you’re looking for marriage or something like that.
Agreed, Harold. Spot on!
IMO young girls between 20 and 25 are great as lovers, but they are mature enough to have good LTR or marriage only between 25 and 30.
A young attractive teenage lady I would guess around 16-18 of year sat next to me on the train the other day. I had an erection for half the day afterwards. No woman over 30 has ever subconsciously aroused me in such a way ever.
On one hand I hate scumbag men who do this, but then again I can’t stop laughing it the sitaution. It serves her right for being a dishonest prostitute.
I don’t understand how the average guy who frequents these prostitute sites can really love with themselves.
I take care of a friend who is in his late 50s and suffered (he suffered a severe stroke and is lucky to be alive) and he frequents a site or frequented till I came over to bring dinner and I found a strange trashy looking woman rummaging through his drawers and closest.
I asked her what the hell she was doing in the house and she ran out. My guy had a girl over from his site and she decided to try to pilfer him when he randomly fell asleep.
I also told his daughter, who cut him off from using his cards online (power of attorney and his “success” is all his daughters now.) And got him to quit those sites.
I used to come over to strange women with three kids. Dog faced women. And he brags about it. I told him “get up and take them dancing. I’ll be impressed then.”
It’s just really super creepy. I’m 40 and I prefer women my age because you can have a non attached conversation with them. And younger women do have unrealistic expectations of what a date should do.
I went out with a girl in her mid 20s. Second date she wanted me to buy her shoes and tried to pout. She also had to get an Uber or Lyft because I turned my back on her and walked away while blocking her in my phone.
When I was married I didn’t buy my ex shoes. Or pretty much anything. We had our own bank accounts. Etc. I’m not going to be some idiots bank roll.
Anyways, there’s a saying about not conning an honest John. This girl should of expected to be played and left for garbage. She also didn’t learn since she went to the capital of legal prostitution and moral looseness, Dubai.
LOL! Great story. Really enjoyed the line about her now living in Dubai.
I’m glad I don’t have any money. Anyone wanting money from me gets laughed at.
She didn’t get scammed, she paid for sex. 5k for some good dicking. Even when women have sex with men, they still get something. Further proof of man’s superiority in all things. We have everything built in us to do better and more.
We do women favors by spreading their legs, not the other way around. And on top of that all the things we built and created for their bitchy conveniences.
Scammers are pos’ but because this little portapotty Dubai whore got her due, all is balanced.
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