12 Reasons Your Woman Will End Up Cheating On You

A few weeks ago a girl I’d been fucking for a while dropped this little nugget on me:

“I feel like we need to make this thing of ours official or we’re going to have to stop seeing each other.”

Having been in the game for a while, my red pill programming kicked into auto-pilot. I carelessly shrugged my shoulders, stood up, matter-of-factly said “cool babe” with a small smile, and left her apartment without another word.

During the half hour drive back to my place I replayed the last few weeks of my interactions with her and realized that she would have been well within her hypergamous bill of rights to drop me like the bad habit I am, and I would have nobody to blame but myself.

Though hitting the dread game button straightened her ass out (she was blowing up my phone not five minutes after I left and hasn’t broached the subject since I put her back in the starting lineup), the fact remains that my game had fallen off and I didn’t even realize it until she deployed that shit test. I’ll bet the farm that plenty of you are on the verge of losing frame with your girl(s) and are as ignorant of it as I was.

If I didn’t handle that situation accordingly, given the rules of modern dating I would deserve to have been nexted. Same goes for you. If you don’t deal with things like this accordingly, your girl can and should cheat on you, next you etc. without delay. Here are 12 reasons why:

12. You’ve stopped lifting weights

If you let yourself go like this, you deserve that female shitstorm

Before you met your girl you were always in the gym squatting, deadlifting, and benching until you puked. But now that you’re getting regular sex, your drive to keep your physical edge has dwindled and your diet’s gone to shit. Keep it up and your girl will be blowing someone who looks like you used to.

11. Your hygiene has slipped

Don’t expect any makeout sessions with bad breath

When you approached your woman your breath was minty fresh, your facial hair was neat and trimmed, and your clean masculine scent always prompted compliments from her. Since then, you’ve gotten lazy and slacked off of your daily hygiene regimen. Girls are flaky by nature so they’re always looking for a reason to switch cocks. Chronic bad breath and body odor are, these days, both very good reasons for her to jump ship.

10. You pay less attention to your threads

This was one I was guilty of with my fuck buddy. The more comfortable I got with her, the less care I took in my appearance when I went to see her, which was reflected in my attitude. Dress like a rock star and you’ll act like one. This isn’t to say you should dress to the nines all the time, but if you stop trying altogether, your girl will notice and start to explore greener pastures.

9. You watch too much porn

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Porn has its place, but whacking off to it too much depletes your testosterone and drastically reduces your sex drive. If you’re not fucking your woman because you can’t keep the chicken-choking in front of a screen to a minimum, she’s going to find a cock more willing than yours.

8. You’ve stopped approaching

Once again, I was guilty of slipping in this department. My FWB had been providing me with sex so frequently that I didn’t feel the need to go out and add other chicks to my roster anymore. Chateau’s seventh commandment of poon states:

Always keep two in the kitty

Having a backup chick or three creates that all-important abundance mentality which is paramount to your overall game. Don’t let one good pussy keep you from the acquisition of others because the moment you do, your leverage is out the door and the shit tests are sure to follow.

7. Your frame has weakened

On the verge of losing frame

When your woman threw a fit because you didn’t remember your “two week anniversary” you laughed at her and treated her like the petulant two-year-old she was acting like. These days you feed into her shenanigans more than you used to, which means she’s got her foot in the door to emotionally manipulate you. She may start banging a dude on the side who doesn’t give a shit about her tears or caves into her tantrums.

6. You don’t dominate her in bed

If you don’t, Christian will

As far as sex is concerned, different girls have different preferences at different times. But one thing they all have in common is that they want to be physically dominated sexually. The need to be taken by a man in this way is firmly encoded in their DNA.

There’s a time and place to “make sweet love” to her, but a woman doesn’t feel like a woman if she’s not being ravaged by a dominant man. This is what she wants and needs. If you’re not giving it to her, don’t be surprised if she finds someone else who will pull her hair and smack her ass.

5. You spend too much money on her

Don’t give her gifts, give her tingles

This was a big one for me back in the day. I’d meet a girl, we’d start having sex and I’d start buying her shit—a lot of shit. Big fucking mistake. Rewarding women with money or extravagant gifts will place her value above yours and it’s all downhill from there.

Nobody’s suggesting you shouldn’t buy anything for her if she’s a good woman, but the best reward you can give a woman is your time and attention. Let the government, white knights, and her orbiters pick up the tab or she’ll bounce like a bad check.

4. You talk shit about other men

Nothing says beta like saying “He’s an idiot for spending that much on a car” or “All those tatts make him look stupid” or “He’s such a douche bag.” Hating on other guys in the presence of your woman is a feminine trait and screams lack of confidence. Keep trashing these dudes if you want to, but I can guarantee your girl is fantasizing about blowing him in that fancy car of his—which she should be if you’re acting like a female.

3. You never tell her “no”

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Your girl has every right to cheat on you if you’re not man enough put your foot down and tell her you’re not taking her to see the latest rom com or that you will not be going with her to hang out with her girlfriends to squawk about bullshit and drink cosmopolitans all night.

A woman wants and needs a man who keeps her in line by not catering to her every whim. If your spineless ass isn’t cutting it, don’t be surprised when she fucks a man who puts her in her place but keeps you around to satisfy all of her other non-sexual needs.

2. You fail too many shit tests

When you first hooked up, you’d swat away shit tests like pesky flies. But a little time has passed and you’re getting comfortable so you let your guard down a little. Perfectly natural. We’re all human.

But little by little she starts shit testing you with increasing frequency, and before you know it you’re sniveling mess begging her not to leave and coming up with reasons the two of you don’t need to “take a break” like she suggested. She’s about to walk right out that door to teach your weak-minded ass a lesson.

1. You’re a closet white knight

At least men who openly white knight are keeping it 100

Despite frequenting neomasculine websites and commenting on articles and message boards, you’re still secretly holding on to concepts like NAWALT, that your woman “should love me for me,” or any other ridiculous notion you claim to have seen the light on.

No matter how well you think you hide it, your girl will eventually sniff it out (females have a supernatural ability to quickly detect incongruity) and when that happens she’ll step out on you if she doesn’t leave altogether. White knights, closet or public, don’t deserve the affections of a woman—period.

Conclusion

While it’s important to understand that occasional slip ups in game are inevitable, it is more important to drill this one unshakable truth about today’s sexual marketplace:

The game never ever ends…ever.

I understand as well as anybody here that it can be a grind to never let your guard down around your woman. But we were born men, which means we’re equipped to deal with it and even thrive in these situations. We can bitch and moan about how easy women have it and how difficult it is for us out here but personally, I wouldn’t have it any other way. Hardship, pain, and strife are all things we are built to overcome.

Point blank, if your girl cheats on you it is your fault. It is your responsibility as a man to keep your woman in check because she is ill-equipped, nor can she be trusted to keep herself together.

Stop watching porn and eating junk food, get your ass to the gym, and learn game. From here on out when you see signs of your woman stepping out of line remember that you are a man. Grab your Y-chromosome and handle it, or someone else will.

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385 thoughts on “12 Reasons Your Woman Will End Up Cheating On You”

    1. I hope she was under 80. Why not her mom or sister? How did that even happen?

      1. Yes. Inquiring minds need to know.
        Dude, eating tuna out of the can on your bed. OMG!!

  1. #13. You date her even though she has a history of cheating. You are not special. She is swinging by your cock with one hand while holding the other open and waiting for the next stiff dick to come within reach.

    1. Yeah this chick I was banging told me she had a boyfriend who lived 2 hours away… three months into it. I asked her why she waited to tell me. Her response: “well I hookup with a new guy when I’m ready to breakup and if things go well then he’s my new boyfriend”. Then asked me if I would go steady with her. I said no. Winning.

      1. Haha! She may as well have said “Are you borderline retarded? If so I want to date you.”
        Sadly, we allow people with these thought processes to vote.

  2. Plenty of good points on keeping things together, however absolving her of responsibility I will not do. This plays right into the “the man is always at fault” meme held by feminists.
    Sometimes she just cheats even if you keep your shit tight. Hold her accountable, do not give her an excuse by laying her choices off on others.

    1. Too right! Men don’t exist to make women happy. If a woman cheats or breaks her promise, its due to a lack of morals.
      Despite popular beliefs to the contrary, women know right from wrong.

      1. Women dumbass excuses of being a whore include
        1. She’s getting back at her boyfriend who yelled at her or didn’t buy her shoes something childish.
        2. Her man was not making their relationship exciting. Bitch you aren’t raising a finger (or leg) to satisfy your man either.
        3. She was pressured by the other man. Bitch you didn’t say no.

        1. when men cheat, they know they’re doing something wrong. When women cheat, they justify it in their own heads. “Well he wasn’t making me happy, blah blah”

        2. PREACH!!!
          Women take NO RESPONSIBILITY for any wrongdoing they do and instead ALWAYS make themselves out to be a victim. FOH
          To translate in my native dialect
          fi niyla styers dem picha yah afiyuh. yuh cyaah suc buddy fi save ya life n yuh boring gal like aidonia seh and annoying self-involved & yuh a cocky breath chatter box
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      2. What you need to realise is women like nice things and things that excite them end off. You stop looking nice and exciting she moves on. Essentially they are like kids. A woman with Morals will still leave you. She won’t mess around on you but will tell you it’s over before moving on. Then what next? If you expect women to be “reasonable” and responsible when it comes to a guy who has lost his appeal to them you must be kidding. Would you date and out of shape, junk food eating, scruffy, always bitching about her skinny friends, land whale? Didn’t think so. Women are even worse at wanting nice things. That’s how nature made them.

        1. Unfortunately, men and women are like the yin and yang. You can’t handle the one side without the other.
          So, you stop caring about them, and hit weights like Arnie in the 80s. Women start throwing their vaginas at you in humble adulation.
          Later, you get comfortable, and she turns your boudoir into the Sahara. And I don’t mean the Dirk Pitt novel with a happy ending in Malibu. No Malibu, go straight to beta-porn hell.
          Basically, as a man, you want access to a woman’s creamy filling like the fat guy in the photo wants access toa box of hohos.
          You can’t resist.
          The key to all of this is this: it’s not about them.
          It’s not even really about you. It is about who you are.
          I often tell people that if you want to meet mrs/mr right. You have to be mr/mrs right!
          Because then you naturally become the person they are attracted to. So be what you are.
          However, if what you are is a self-proclaimed stud whose always getting it with whores….then maybe, you are a whore.
          Who honestly expects to find a quality mate at the Farm in Vegas?
          Right.
          So if you are looking to keep your stable full of “horses.” Stop acting like you are looking for the future Mrs. Studmuffin. And stop bitching and writing lame ass articles about how some two pint trick with a narcissistic sense of self entitlement is trying to run you in two. It is precisely the same thing you are doing.
          People aren’t perfect, this includes everyone. So, to marry, or not is your question. If you plan on it, it is up to you how many women you want to bed prior. If you don’t, it is still dependent on how many women you want to bed prior to dying.
          This is more spin on a plate that has been spun like a prop at a Chinese circus. The air has cleaned it like a sweat shop full of dishwashers armed with 10,000 gallons of liquid dish soap.
          Been there, got the T-shirt.
          Whore, or don’t. Improve, or tell them to fuck off for a while and relax some.
          But whatever you do, don’t bitch. No matter what supposedly “manly bow” you dress it up with.

        2. So after that long dissertation, your only beef is “don’t bitch?” Because it’s not “manly?” dude, you realize that YOU are the one bitching, right?

        3. so do it, then toss her aside as the cheap piece of human excrement she obviously is. but then again, cow towing and bellowing to the games of biology is also pathetic in and of itself.

      3. well then she’s just a whore than. their choices, they can sleep in the beds they make, lol, pun intended, thing is, they’re the diseased ones too. disease LOVES its a warm moist dark place to be harbored bred and spread from, eh?

      4. Their thinking and rationale is so skewed and mixed up from years of games and manipulating, that it’s impossible to know “what makes them happy.” It’s all situational and with so many layers that it can’t be deciphered, even by themselves. Like you say, we shouldn’t even try. Personal fulfillment and contentment are up to them. Just as it is for we men.

      5. Actually, it’s impossible for men to make them happy. Their thinking is so skewed from years of manipulative and second-guess behavior that THEY don’t know what it’d take to be happy. It’s situational and too many layers to go through. Hell, they’ll say they want so,so to be happy, you do that, and then they’re freaking furious at you. Just like we men do, women need to take responsiblity for their own fulfullment and stop drifting from guy to guy, blaming each one for their unhappiness.

    2. I can’t deny that you are right GoJ. We can’t absolve her of responsibility and play into the man is at fault. However, I think it is nice to see an article that points back to the man and says “look at yourself and see if you are fucking up.” If we never absolve her of responsibility and don’t play into the man is at fault game that is good, but if we move too far we are no better than the fems who, without any actual thinking, blame some abstract bullshit concept like patriarchy and never look within.
      Being conscious of ourselves and when we are inviting bullshit is good. Being self critical is good. Donovan has the right of it here. Complacency breeds laziness and when we get lazy we are weak and women do not want (nor should they) weak men. This doesn’t mean that they aren’t going to be cunts anyway, but fuck that noise….who cares. Just work on being the best man you can be and let the chips fall where they may.

      1. Yeah but if this article is to be taken seriously then women should be held to the same rigorous standards. She gains 10 pounds, cheat on her. She burns dinner 3 times, find a new one. She doesnt answer your text in 30 minutes, next her. Do you see how ridiculous it sounds the other way around?
        While I agree that men should always keep it together, the punishment for slipping should be a breakup. Saying that a man deserves to be publicly humiliated and lied to is female logic. This whole article was meant to start a debate. Nobody deserves to be made a fool of.

        1. The difference is that you are going to cheat on her anyway. She, at least, desires to be faithful and exclusive.

        2. Couple of things: while if she is really trying to be nice and cook a dinner and burns it I can let that slide…gaining weight or making me wait around for her is absolutely a reason to next her.
          Also, I am not saying they are ok to cheat in this situation. Cheating is the intentional breaking of your word. They will cheat and you should blame them for that. However, in the process of making yourself a better man you ought to ask what it was about you that couldn’t hold her attention too. Always question yourself and be stronger.
          If I had a woman who was with me exclusively and she had a high SMV and i started gaining weight, dressing like a slob and ignoring my hygiene she would totally be in the right to next me.
          You are right. Cheating is not a valid punishment. It is wrong. However, when it happens you should examine the situation objectively and without passion and look for areas of self improvement….just like in any other situation.
          I think the article was actually very good in reminding men not to let regular pussy make them lazy about keeping their own market value high. That’s how I read it at least.

        3. They’re all like that in america now. What woman even knows how to cook anymore? They were raised by single moms who didn’t have time to teach them. If a woman is only 10 pounds overweight she’s considered hotttt, with hundreds of male ‘friends’ spamming her FB page.

        4. A lot of the not texting back in a decent, respectable amount of time is just power posturing, trying to show you that they’re too “important” (read – Betatards are giving her a steady stream of attention and validation, so YOU can wait) or too “busy” (read – taking and posting selfies to foment the former) to text you back, and it’s a complete shitcrock. If a woman is awake/breathing, her phone is both in her line of sight and within arm’s reach, if not death-gripped in her hand. Walk into any restaurant, retail shop or even office lobby and what do you see? Female employees on their phone, and most likely one of the myriad social media apps. Most jobs seem to be lax about cell phone use anyway as long as customers have been handled (I don’t even think they could enforce this if they wanted to, they wouldn’t be able to keep anybody!) and I’m pretty sure a woman would walk from a job that actually attempted to reprimand her for cell phone use. She would just sign up for the next one to not take seriously or walk straight into the arms of a Beta provider bill payer. We all know a handful of these types!

        5. I used to hate my mom for insisting that I learn how to cook, clean and take care of a husband. Now that I am married to a good man, I couldn’t be more thankful.

        6. “She gains 10 pounds, cheat on her. She burns dinner 3 times, find a new one. She doesnt answer your text in 30 minutes, next her. Do you see how ridiculous it sounds the other way around?”
          I don’t think that sounds ridiculous at all. If the current girl isn’t satisfying your expectations you should just take the next one off the pile.

        7. A woman’s role is to bring an air of femininity to a man’s life not be a butch partner. Then that man might as well be with another man.

        8. This is true. I know that when I embraced my femininity, I felt far more authentic than when I tried to be aggressive.

        9. I could see burning dinner once, but 3 times shows a lack of skill.
          A man who wants a traditional woman shouldn’t stick around for that.

        10. Then again, I’d be impressed to find a young single American woman actually willing to attempt cooking dinner three times.

        11. She would walk, while being mentally inspired by the mantra ‘because you’re worth it’

    3. I do agree with you but I see self analyzing an thinking what I could have done different as a masculine trait, hamsterising everything by saying it’s all there fault I see as a female trait. If you do analyze an find she’s at fault by all means hold her accountable though.

      1. Right, my only point was that every person is accountable for his or her actions. We can fall down on our side and yes that is on us, but that doesn’t mean she gets relief from culpability if she cheats. I get where that shit could piss her off or make her lose attraction, yes clearly, but she has the imperative then to leave and make a clean break. Cheating is just a bullshit way to treat anybody, and doing it makes her guilty of being a slimy cunt.

        1. “I can treat women as the animals they behave as.” Have you not looked in the mirror lately? A lot of women may be annoying as shit, but at least they aren’t chest thumping, brainless rapists like the people here. Also why are people calling women who cheat slimy cunts and pieces of shit, whilst simultaneously encouraging and applauding men who cheat? My god the hypocrisy is real. And you wonder why all white women are leaving for black dudes and other women.

        2. “…whilst simultaneously encouraging and applauding men who cheat?”
          I’ve been reading this site for almost two years and I’ve never seen articles or commentary encouraging men who cheat.
          There have been many articles about spinning plates (i.e. maintaining a harem) but that is always in the context of open relationships – letting the girl know that she is *not* exclusive.
          Back up your claims or GTFO.

        3. You think black men cheat less than white men?
          The hamster seminar is down the hall.

        4. You’re right. We’re all chest thumping, brainless rapists here. You make it too easy for us to win a battle of wits with you when you walk in here so unarmed.
          KyukiYoshida..throwing logical fallacies & ad hominems around like a Boss…

        5. ” A lot of women may be annoying as shit, but at least they aren’t chest thumping, brainless rapists like the people here. ”
          This woman wants to say hi to KyukiYoshidafuq.

        6. You quoted somebody else while answering me. Perhaps you should just accept your lesbianism instead of foisting responsibility for your bad choices on others.

        7. I am a rapist and proud of it, every night I rape the hottest young starlets of Hollywood with my perverted thoughts. Just so you know, my latest victim was Nina Dobrev.

        8. None of that is japanese phrasing: annoying as shit, my god, black dudes. Why are you trolling under a fake japanese name?

        9. White women who go for black dudes do so because white men do not want them. Ever notice how the white women who are with black men are almost always fat? I am a black woman and I wouldn’t touch another black man with a ten foot pole. Most of them are uneducated and unsuccessful. No thanks.

        10. DANGERFIELD: ‘I saved a girl from being attacked last night. I controlled myself.

        11. I am sure that you are only referring to a specific demographic of Black men. If you are talking about upper middle class and up, that demographic of Black men get the best women of all races.

        12. Yes, I am only referring to a specific demographic.
          Very observant of you.
          It’s the same way that white men who prefer black women choose the ones which have higher sexual market value.

    4. This coincides with the concept I have that absolving women from all moral responsibility is doing a disservice to half the population (and thus the whole population). I can treat women as the animals they behave as (and do sometimes) sure, but they should be required to act as humans and a least held to that minimum standard.
      The ones that will cheat when you are hitting on all cylinders are the ones that start coming off as infallible and behoven by traditional standards. B.S. Paleeze. There is no church mouse whose not yet affected by feminist hypergamy. Act accordingly to their actions, when they prove their words don’t mean shit.

    5. Precisely my thoughts. As I was reading this story I thought it was heading down the road of, “She gave me an ultimatum, I hit the highway and moved on to greener pastures”. While acting confident and masculine will often lead to women being strongly attracted, and often hooking up, it by no means guarantees they will all become your permanent girlfriend indefinately.
      The 100+ notch count girl of today will be distracted by the next guy with clown game, or perhaps the mini relationship with you will just run its course. Nothing lasts forever.

      1. yeah no amount of game can stop a woman from cheating. She has to be culturally shamed for it.

        1. Precisely! This is why women need slut shaming. Without it, women left to their own moral devices, will undoubtably choose to cheat everytime.

      2. It’s been incentivized whoredome for a few decades+ at this point. Even the “good” girls who I work with – in appearance anyways – who are married or with live-in LTR guys, I see at work sometimes walking in, or at lunch, or before leaving, bangin out text messages with angry shitty looks on their faces. Hmm, I wonder wth that is? Always tryin to gain power over their men, anything to make “their” lives easier, and better. Shit’s just obvious anymore to me. And if they are good, they’re at least having fantasies about other guys. That’s my observation.

        1. With quite a few, most actually, it’s all about power plays. Their egos can’t be assuaged without some sort of evidence that they’ve conquered something. Unfortunately, they don’t put it to practical use like conquering over eating or personality issues.

    6. The man IS always at fault. Responsibility is for leaders.
      But, if you really must hold a woman accountable, be sure first to grab a fistful of water along the way.

      1. That is the tried and true path to becoming Beta Bob.
        “Gosh honey, you cheated and I totally get it, I have only been working out five days a week instead of seven! I’m so lazy, I’m so sorry for disappointing you! You had every right to pull a morally reprehensible act like you did instead of just leaving me! Please, can I rub your feet baby, please don’t leave me!”
        Yeah, fuck that.
        My take:
        “Why did you cheat?”
        Her “I don’t know, like it was late and I was on a business trip and got drunk. He was just so ripped…”
        “This isn’t the first time is it?”
        Her: “um…I’m sorry, it won’t happen again!”
        Me: “you should have left instead of cheating. Get out of my bedroom, my lawyer will contact you on the morning.”
        Fin

        1. Get out of my room doesn’t really work that well for women! It’s like they expect the man to do that even if they are wrong.

        2. She can expect rutabaga to pop out of my skull for all it would matter to me on her expectations.
          The art of truly not giving a shit is a real position of strength. If she refuses or starts giving shit then it’s your call on if you want to indulge her crazy or not. I’m not fond of emotional barbs from women so I likely would say “ok, whatever” and simply Grab my most important items (laptop, phone, cash stash, sidearms), Leave and hit a hotel for a night. First thing in the morning, zero hour the moment they open I’d have my credit cards cancelled, a new one ordered, a new p.o. box and half of my savings withdrawn and put into my new bank account (at a separate bank). Communication at that point is lawyer only.
          As you may be able to discern, I’m married, heh.

        3. Lawyer? Why would you need a lawyer?
          God bless drunken sluts. They have their place. But don’t expect them to transform magically into vestal virgins upon shacking up with you.
          If you’ve got a woman who gets drunk on business trips, you should assume that she is cheating on you, but just hope that she is a good liar with reasonable hygiene who won’t give you herpes, and no harm done.
          If she fails to lie convincingly about her infidelity, so that you are confronted with the harsh reality, then (hoping you don’t have herpes) just go get yourself another woman. or two. or three. There is no natural resource so abundant on God’s Green Earth as women.

        4. I’m married, but you didn’t know that context, which I should have included. I also just made up a scenario out of whole cloth, don’t read too much into the specifics, it was only to illustrate a point.

        5. It’s funny, but same here. As far as women go, my wife is pretty great, but I still have an escape plan if needed.

        6. If you fail to plan, you plan to fail.
          It is just that simple.

    7. Yep.
      Plus, there are times you’ll have projects on that mean the superficial stuff has to take a backseat for a while.
      If your woman can’t grasp this then dump her on the spot
      There’s some good general advice in this kind of article, but the quality of women it hints at dating is very, very low.
      I wouldn’t waste a minute of my time with the kind of girl who doesn’t grasp the order of things

      1. Dear Lucas,
        women are as superficial as F****. If you want a fit bird you need to be fit simple as. They will forgive you if you let yourself go for a month or two but best believe your ass is on notice and the countdown has started. I hear you about projects and what nots. But life was never meant to be easy. Until you make enough to buy your time.
        I am up at 5am. Hit the gym till 7am including a shower. Am at work between 7.30 -8am, (I work in finance proper, no bank teller here). Finish at between 5-8pm. Get home and get stuff done like studying for an Msc and doing my personal project which I believe will liberate me from my regular job till 12 midnight. Am off to bed, wake up the next morning at 5am, rinse and repeat. I fit it making healthy meals, banging a few girls and in there. No internet porn, TV, Internet dating or all that nonsense. Never ever failed to find time for the gym even if it’s only for a 45 minute, heavy session.

        1. sorry I missed that. And my job is not real? Do you know what I do in finance? Like I said I am not a bank teller. I am talking real finance. However I don’t think the job I do is the issue here and don’t want to come across like I am bragging.

        2. Your response was so narrow it barely warranted a response.
          Sure you work your weights routine into whatever it is you do. For the majority of the time so do I.
          But life ain’t all finishing work then messing around on a laptop all night.
          If you’re dealing with the kind of woman who’d drop you for missing the gym for a few weeks or because you’re not dressing sharp – then you need to change your life.
          Good luck maintaining whore gathering frame when you’re biking across Alaska or South America.
          Life isn’t a Frat house

      2. Great point. You are right, the quality of woman that you have to keep this pace up for all the time are superficial trash who are not worth being with. Apply this level of effort to a woman who is worth it.

      3. The issue is that when a relationship starts, the woman thinks that it’s now about her being in every aspect. You can’t live like that. And their hypocrisy is that they want their own space (which is actually so they can do stuff behind your back) while not giving you any privacy at all.

    8. Well said. Absolving a woman of her responsibility is one of the worst things you can do as a man. Might as well go suck some dick with her, lol.

      1. No one said absolve her. Play your part and hopefully she stays in line. If she doesn’t then clearly you have a hot headed one, move on. You are hot anyways, you lift, you look fantastic, you dress well and have confidence, you have popped enough red pills, you will get a younger hotter one. Just means the dude banging her has game or she is just a sl_t. Good riddance.

        1. “Point blank, if your girl cheats on you it is your fault” < I have no vested interested in keeping a woman around. It’s like having a house cat. Much like GhostofJefferson said, you could have your shit together all day. Unless there’s a woman that some how manages to improve my life when I’m with her. If not she’s community pussy as far as I’m concerned.

        2. This is exactly what I am saying. Why would you date a woman like that in the first place?

        3. And it can’t be the same for women? If you don’t somehow improve my life you can fuck yourself

    9. Agreed, she has some responsability. But girls are very similar to children, they should be monitored, controlled and educated, or they may end up hurting themselves and everyone around them.
      You can teach your girl to be a femenine, respectful little girl. Granted, some are fucked up beyond repair, but others can be trained to be worthy girlfriends. It’s our responsability as men to lead, everytime, everywhere, 24/7.

      1. We have been doing that for centuries and now we have feminism. So fuck that, it’s time for women to grow up.

      2. No, women will only straighten out when society holds them to standards. The golden rule of thumb for human behavior in my book has always been that by the majority, humans will do whatever they can get away with when in groups, no matter how amoral. The human brain excels at ignoring facts and dismissing others’ ire when it suits the owner.

        1. Fuck society – you are the one who needs to hold women to standards. “Society” is just an abstract concept. It won’t do shit. If you hang around waiting for society to “do something” you’ll be waiting a long time.

        2. I already am, I want the rest of society to join me. I thought that was obvious.

        3. What’s obvious is that society won’t join you. That’s my point.

        4. It takes the culture of really shaming infidelity to stop women from cheating. I’m not for stoning, but the Arabs have the right idea at least.

        5. THAT IS GOLD.””Society” is just an abstract concept. It won’t do shit. If you hang
          around waiting for society to “do something” you’ll be waiting a long
          time.”

        6. “Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.” – George Carlin

      3. A lot of the good tips on handling women is just how a strict parent teaches their children with the exception of sex acts that women probably dreamed of their daddy doing to them.

      4. Hate to admit that you are speaking the truth. Women are very emotional and capricious beings much like kids. My husband got me to stop doing certain things just by being lovingly firm and dominant. I walked all over any other guy I dated because I didn’t respect them. I wouldn’t dare try the same nonsense with my husband. That man can stop my foolishness with just a glare.

        1. That’s why you respect him and he loves you. I have run numerous experiments on “incorrigible bar fly sluts”. Had a girlfriend that liked to drink and her parents owned a bar. She had just had an operation on a hernia and had and ice pack on it. She took said ice pack off and drunkenly through it at a semi retarded man, hitting him in the side of the head. We were out in front of the bar, and she was about ready to get into my 2011 vette with the removable top off. I told her to apologize. She refused to. I told her to say she was sorry to him, or get the fuck out of my car. Princess finally said she was sorry after about 4 commands. I got a standing ovation from all of the folks in front of the bar for putting the bitch in her place, then went to her house and fucked her repeatedly the whole damn night (not bragging but TRT is a wonderful thing). Princess was hot, but no woman is worth getting walked on, or letting her walk on others. Man is meant to rule over woman in a benevolent way. That is why the hell you respect the man you are with now.

        2. I used to be quite a brat when my husband and I just got married. I would throw tantrums and break dishes like a dumb toddler. The men I dated before him were scared of my rages.
          My husband came home one day, saw the mess and grabbed my arm. He literally GROWLED at me: “Clean up this mess immediately. If you purposely break one more dish in this kitchen, you will not be my wife any longer. I married an intelligent adult and not a baby.” I quietly swept up the shards of glass and gave my husband the best apology blow job ever.
          I can get whatever I want from my husband as long as I ask in a respectful and sweet manner. Any kind of shouting results in The Look and my husband walking away.

        3. Kudos to your husband for being a man and keeping you in your place. Yes you have figured it out. Stupid woman do the opposite and either get kicked down the road or destroy their own home to everyone’s detriment with the state’s blessing. How old were you when you married your husband, and how old was he??? Good for him that he had the wisdom not to put up with your tantrums, and good for you that you stopped them. See it works. You like being ruled over and loved by a benevolent dictator, and it works best for everyone. Woman rarely have the wisdom to see this until their biological clock is burned out, and by then most men have grown tired of the bullshit (even if they haven’t figured out how to deal with it like your husband has) and are truly happy being single. It is a beautiful thing when a man knows how to rule his woman, and a woman accepts it, especially when you figure it out at a young age and have many healthy energetic years to enjoy and benefit from it. I didn’t figure it out until after a divorce at the age of 35. God bless your husband.

        4. It does work. Any other guy who tried to put me in my place got laughed at. I listen to my husband because I have tremendous respect and love for him. I believe that most problems in a marriage can be worked through, instead of divorcing just because I’m not always “happy.” The problem is, women these days think that marriage should always be a like the insipid rom com movies they like.
          I was 28 and my husband was 36 when he got married. Lots of people gave him a hard time for not marrying earlier but he never met a decent lady. My husband never wanted to get married until we met; he was used to sluts who wouldn’t even make him a sandwich.
          If you decide to date again, it might help to date women who have the influence of a traditional culture; women whose parents were strict and not from North America. Don’t even waste your time with some entitled feminazi idiot who has slept with several men.

        5. This is so 100% true! I am the exact same way and my husband does me the exact same way with his authoritative stares! I had to marry a no nonsense Marine because all of the men before him were weaklings and beta males *gag*. One day he actually told me that I needed an authoritative Alpha male to be in a dominant position over me because I am took skilled getting what I want and walking all over men that I perceive as being weak. Truer words have never been spoken.

        6. Not all of us are as dumb as that woman and we can handle ourselves without the help of a man.

      5. I think it is better to start with a feminine woman rather than try to convince a girl to act like a lady.

      6. “they should be monitored, controlled and educated, or they may end up hurting themselves and everyone around them.” < the only reason they are allowed to hurt others around them is because the laws support it. I quit giving a shit if a woman – read child in adults body + a vagina – hurts herself.

      7. You may have a miserabke life for such narrow point of view about dating a woman. If all the woman you see around are children for you so you must be a little baby looking for mummy
        Poor of you

    10. I had a girlfriend who was always asking for stuff. But she was dressing like a housewife.
      I said to her: “You gonna be expensive you better start looking expensive”.

      1. LOL! Maybe if she thought she dressed bad you would buy her some new clothes.
        I have to say though, any chick that started dressing bad would get “nexted”.

        1. problem is when she puts the “rape” tag on you for “nexing” her shit

      2. mate, what the fuck she think you are- her mobile federal reserve? then if you put a ring on it, i think that would have been a self fulfilling shit.

    11. “The game never ever ends…ever.”
      Never was a truer word spoken… but here’s the problem…. sometimes you need to have a timeout, time off, do something else but deal with chicks crap etc. etc… and I don’t mean for an afternoon, I mean for a couple of months….

      1. Yes. That quote “the game never ever ends…ever” is a statement to live by. Never get too comfortable.

        1. One can’t lose a game they never participated in the 1st place.
          Leave whores and sluts at the footsteps of brothels and bars, where they belong(until you require their “services” again).

    12. This. A decent woman will stay loyal even when her man slips.
      She will tell him to get his act together rather than hopping on another dick.
      When my husband gained too much weight, I simply discussed the issue with him rather than cheating. I did this because I’m not a whore and I take my vows seriously.

      1. Are you actually condoning this type of poorly-written, Alpha-Male, gangsta-wannabe bullshit?
        I mean, yes, he makes some good points, but so do illiterate 3-year-olds.

        1. Yes, I am condoning it.
          Just as you are free to denounce this article, I am also at liberty to agree with the points made here.

    13. And this is why civilized society- i.e. traditional Patriarchy- made marriage a legally enforceable contract, if either party breaks the terms they get hit with penalties.
      Because Game is alright in the context of a decadent over civilized society, it is nothing but a drain and divisive in hard times.

    14. This article sounded like a ‘closet white night’. The whole article could have been wrote in a sentence: You are a man; if your woman challenges you, act according to the situation – some situations warrant an absolute rebuke, and some warrant diplomacy – know which is which, and let her worry about the state or your relationship.

      1. I totally agree. The author, as much as he would protest, is actually just a hamster in a cage he made for himself but designed by his “women” – if, indeed, he actually has any women. Use your head, only associate with rational women, make it clear form the start you don’t take any shit.

    15. I would say this “why are you dating this girl in the first place?” I wouldn’t. These are just women I would just tag and bag.
      One other point. You are not responsible for the actions of another person. If she cheats that is her fault not yours. That said, see above paragraph. Do not date this woman.

    16. Absolutely true Ghost. Some women just cheat even if you are doing a great job. They’re not void of all reason and are not farm animals… they know they aren’t supposed to cheat… rather they can simply leave. To absolve them of responsibility is to play into their game. Screw that. Slut shame them, tell their parents and friends, and laugh your ass off when the guy she cheated with treats her like shit…. rub her nose in it AND NEVER EVER take her back.

    17. If you catch her out cheating, throw it in her face that you’re pissed because of the chance of VD. I knew a guy whose wife was banging everything she could get. He still was freaking out thinking about divorce. What finally convinced him was that we said she could be bringing AIDS home. The idea that his “little angel” could be so callous as to endanger his life was enough to close the deal. These days, many years after that whore, I’m happy to say he’s a Red Pill guy.


    18. 4. You talk shit about other men”
      I talk shit about leftist men, cuckolds and feminist men.

  3. These disgusting pigs cheat on perfectly good boyfriends. Theyre all whores who want to be slapped. They only complain about the slaps when you stop being The Man and run the family. Women ultimately just want to be slapped. The truly good women want to be punched. Find any woman who grew the balls to leave her abusive man. She left when he fell off the punch wagon. If he kept punching, shed still be laminating his balls and taint with her saliva while she jerks his cock. Chris Brown could have kept rihanna if he just beat her more.
    Pathetic fuckin creatures. The only men who cant see how some can become monks or play warcraft all day dont know shit about these wannabe punching bags. They dont act right.

    1. Dafuq?
      Troll account from Jezebel sent to make us look bad by association are you?
      Lame.

      1. Ugh, Jezebel…. Went to site that site once, never again. Had to bleach my eyes out.

    2. We don’t advocate violence against people here unless it’s a self defence thing, pal. You’re in the wrong place.

    3. ” Women ultimately just want to be slapped. The truly good women want to be punched. Find any woman who grew the balls to leave her abusive man. She left when he fell off the punch wagon. If he kept punching, shed still be laminating his balls and taint with her saliva while she jerks his cock. Chris Brown could have kept rihanna if he just beat her more. ”
      Dude, what are you? 16? Lame half-ass measures like slapping and punching won’t work with those bitches.
      If you want to know how to properly handle your bitches then approach and learn a thing or two from the Duke of sexist patriarchy.

  4. Three points that everyone should keep in mind about life in general:
    – Nothing is permanent
    – Nothing is granted
    – Never ever fall into routine
    Once there is no more desire, women will throw you like a used condom. Not only they will blame you but also cheat on you to make yourself feel miserable. They have a very selective memory when it comes to remembering the positive points, yet have no problem to emphasize the negative points about you.

    1. Yeah boyeee, the genital-led and minutiae-obsessed chaff stay mired amidst smegma quicksand, while the righteous brush their memories off like flecks of dandruff, and ascend beyond their tortured grasp.

  5. reason women cheat:
    1)they’re emotionally not connected with you – in other words she’s tired of your ass and needs a valid excuse to go on a horny rampage.
    2)her girlfriends the will hype her up to believe she’s the next best thing since the first playstation. “girl fuck him! he ain’t shit!” “you can do better” this will prompt her to feel entitled and go on a hoe’ing spree and justify it by getting her girlfriends validation bc they don’t like you. plus she’ll listen to old destiny child and beyonce songs in the process.
    3)you’re a beta and aren’t hitting it right – this should be self explanatory. tap it good then have her make you a sandwich like a boss afterwards.
    4)you’re a beta that’s a meal ticket – how many times have you seen some scrawny, shy, maybe fat, timid guy with a knockout? that’s taking care of this knockouts kids from a previous relationship? simple she’s using the wimpy beta for his cash and house and will secretly go lust after the in-shape alpha. the alpha will not chase and will be up front on his intentions. women like to be led don’t let the 450lb feminist fool you, they’d take an in-shape alpha in a heartbeat if they could (but can’t). also the beta will claim to be an alpha for ‘manning up’ to parent kids that aren’t his while their real father is on a sex spree somewhere in Miami.
    5)you’re a beta that never says and are afraid to say ‘no’ – once a woman can figure out she can run you, it’s game over. she will do whatever she wants and go sleep around, with an alpha of course. they’ll boss the beta and get conquered by alphas in this circle of life food chain.
    6)the i was drunk excuse – betas fall for this all the time. Hayden – “Cindy I heard you had a train ran on you by the New York Yankees? How could you? I love you with all my Heart?!?!?!?!” Cindy – “Babe A-Rod took advantage of me..I was drunk..I asked for an autograph then Derek Jeter offered me a wine cooler…I swear it was just sex, it means nothing..plus I was drunk…I still love you?…Hayden” Hayden – “How dare they take advantage of a strong woman? Shame on them, you’re all mine! Here let me rub your feet and do your laundry! I will never attend a Yankees game again! Please don’t leave me Cindy..I wasn’t emotionally connected with you it’s all my fault I’ll listen next time.” Cindy – “Thanks for understanding Hayden I accept your apology and will take you back…oh I’m going out with my girls tonight to relieve stress..okay..” Hayden – “Okay hunny I’ll be waiting and have dinner cooked when you get back at 3 in the morning.”
    7)they found a better potential candidate as a meal ticket – if they see a chance at snagging a guy that could provide $$$ they will muster up a scheme to see what he’s about.
    8)already stated above about being a fat pig – when a fat dude scores he probably has cash, women will wife up or get prego to get that guaranteed $$$. she’s secretly feigning and has plans to get her rocks off with an in-shape young stud alpha.

    1. “tap it good then have her make you a sandwich like a boss afterwards.”
      How to handle women 101

    2. #6 is so on point it’s scary. That type of mental jujitsu is exactly what women are naturally exceptional at. It happens all the time, with all kinds of shit. As a man, your default position should always be that she is the one to blame, even if this is not true. Beat the shit test, then you can circle back later if compelled by your conscience.

    3. “she’s tired of your ass”
      Good! Then it is no loss.
      “that’s taking care of this knockouts kids from a previous relationship?”
      A woman with a ready-made family (just add jackass with paycheck) is NEVER a knockout.

    4. Heh… I have an in-law that “dated” A-rod. I feel for her current husband – no way can he live up to that.

      1. Hahahaha yeahhhhh thats gotta suck. Especially if his friends know his wife fucked A-Rod.

    5. Number 7 is the big one, if she sniffs an opportunity to use her poosy for cash, most women will do, especially younger hot women on sugar dating sites like tempted.com with plenty of wealthy, generous men for the taking.

  6. tl;dr
    If you live your life to please her, she won’t cheat.
    Feminists write articles about how to please and serve women that don’t work.
    RoK writes articles about how to please and serve women that DO work.
    Tell me some more about how red pill it is to live for women and their sexual validation. Tell me how real men need pussy to be happy. Tell me how my worth and meaning in life is based on successfully playing games designed to please women.

    1. Who’s playing games? I do what i want and the bitch is lucky enough to come along. If she don’t like it then its not my problem and she can go find someone else.

      1. If he hasn’t cheated before, he’s not trying hard enough
        Full disclosure: Never cheated on a woman when offered. Was the valour worth it? Hell no.

      1. No fucking way. Once you patch something up after it’s been broken it’s never the same again and already on borrowed time.
        You should essentially see LTRs as a building that has two bricks constantly falling off yet you’re only able to put one brick back each time. Eventually you will run out of bricks.

      2. Agree. I rather you leave then to disrespect our relationship. You cheat once, you’re gone.

    1. As humans we have agency and freewill. Actions taken once do not necessarily lead to future wrongdoing. They can, and sometimes do, but there is no philosophical “necessarily” here.

      1. Once certain bridges are crossed they are more readily crossed again. Sure, there are no absolutes. Had your woman cheated before meeting you?

        1. No, not that I’m aware of. It is not a personal thing with me, rather I subscribe to the notion of free will and moral agency, and rather believe people can change.

        2. Fair. While speaking philosophy: would you have married her if she admitted to being unfaithful to someone?

        3. Good question. I cannot give you an straight reply, it would depend on a number of factors. Chief among them, if it was once and she felt awful and had performed acts of contrition and it never happened again, or has it happened more than once, etc.

      2. I think there is truth in both positions. Certainly I agree with you that we are all responsible for our choices and we have agency. We are also all fallible, and so while I hold myself to a high standard in these matters, I am under no illusion that given the right mix of circumstances, I may make a mistake. In such a situation, I would like to be forgiven, provided that I was genuinely remorseful, accepted responsibility, and was serious about not making the same mistake again.
        But, there is also truth to the maxim “once a cheater, always a cheater.” It starts to become true the more a woman (or man) makes this choice, just as any habit or behavior pattern becomes harder to change over time.
        In my college years, I dated a woman who was easily one of the hottest chicks I had ever banged. A solid 9. Because I had worked with her for a while, I knew that she had cheated on at least two previous boyfriends – her M.O. was to cheat to hook another, and then make the switch. The current guy moved away and she told me it was over, which seemed reasonable given the circumstances, so I started seeing her. Only later did I learn that she was actually still technically with him for a while until she knew I was on the hook.
        Over the course of our brief relationship, she told me more about her history, and it became clear that she had done this with at least eight other guys – it was her natural behavior. I didn’t delve deeper because it was starting to turn me off, but the writing was on the wall. I will admit that I let my game slip, and pedestalized her for her looks (and the sex). I told myself, nah, it won’t happen with me because I’m different and I can change her – which is really fucking stupid if you think about it because she had also already cheated on me with the previous guy. Surprise, surprise when she later did the same thing to me. Lesson learned. Bullet (luckily) dodged.
        So, if a woman told me that she once cheated, I wouldn’t immediately write her off, provided she was genuinely sorry over it (though I will not continue to date a woman who cheats on me – forgive, perhaps, but the relationship will be done). But, I won’t ignore the writing if it’s on the wall either.

        1. “In my college years, I dated a woman who was easily one of the hottest chicks I had ever banged. A solid 9. Because I had worked with her for a while, I knew that she had cheated on at least two previous boyfriends – her M.O. was to cheat to hook another, and then make the switch. The current guy moved away and she told me it was over, which seemed reasonable given the circumstances, so I started seeing her. Only later did I learn that she was actually still technically with him for a while until she knew I was on the hook.
          Over the course of our brief relationship, she told me more about her history, and it became clear that she had done this with at least eight other guys – it was her natural behavior. I didn’t delve deeper because it was starting to turn me off, but the writing was on the wall. I will admit that I let my game slip, and pedestalized her for her looks (and the sex). I told myself, nah, it won’t happen with me because I’m different and I can change her – which is really fucking stupid if you think about it because she had also already cheated on me with the previous guy. Surprise, surprise when she later did the same thing to me. Lesson learned. Bullet (luckily) dodged.”
          It’s amazing how the same scenarios play out all over the world.
          That literally could have been me describing an experience I had at 20. All the same rationalising “I’m different to the 10 other guys she’s been with, I’m invincible ” horse-shit followed by the slow gut punching realisation that you’re just another fleshy piece of cannon fodder on her resume of victims.

        2. They used to break down in psychiatrists’ offices blurting out “I’m the whore of Babylon”. The good ol’ days…

      3. From my experience, women rarely learn from their mistakes. They are ashamed of being caught and punished, not remorseful for hurting another person.

        1. My experience as well.
          I can tell you the very words that my 4 year LTR ex said to me when I told her I discovered she was cheating. She wasn’t saying it to me btw she said it to herself out loud.
          “Omg everyone is going to think I’m a slut.”
          After that she went on full offensive to make it out to look like I was a monster. There may be exceptions but I totally agree with your statement.

        2. she did you a favor imagine if you got stuck with her and instead it were 8 years later

        3. This is a carbon copy of my experience.
          I found out an ex cheated on me and when I confronted her and told her she couldn’t lie her way out of it she said: “Please don’t tell my friends”.
          After I broke it off she went around trying to make me look bad and that it was all my fault.
          Women are all shameless marauding whores. Feminism is a stinking joke and plainly ignore all feminists. They have no credibility

        4. Years ago I wouldn’t have believed such a story if I didn’t see it for myself.
          My brain could barely process the information. The whole situation just made zero sense to me.

        5. Typical. The thing is, the people (cunt friends that never liked you anyway and visa versa) she told those lies to probably believed her. How does that even make sense? You are investing your time, emotion, and money in a LTR with this horrible person and instead of calling it quits, you cheat behind their back hoping they don’t find out. Then when they do, you’re some how a victim?
          I tell ya Clark, you and I have picked some winners. I’ve been in those shoes too. Although look at what there is to pick from.

        6. “After that she went on full offensive to make it out to look like I was a monster.”
          Typical of women, once they run out of excuses, they just turn the situation around. Pretty much like kids, once the lies are revealed and excuses become futile, they put the blame on someone else.

        7. The selection is pretty rough. There are stories abound of women screwing guys over where I’m from and it’s more or less accepted as normal.
          Fuck that.

        8. Right…once you realize it all (and think about it) it is never the same. The girl who you once thought had something going for her is now “trash” (probably always was trash…she just put on a good show).
          It’s a shame but very true.

        9. Women have no sense of justice. In their own minds, they justify every action they make. If they cheated on you, it isn’t because they made the conscious decision to cheat, its because their emotions drive their actions, and to them, they are not responsible for their emotions

        10. If a man screws you over (let’s say its some kind of business transaction or something), they are well aware of what they did. They made the conscious decision to be deceptive and evil. When a woman does it, they don’t even realize what they’re doing is wrong.

    2. An ex of mine was shocked when I told her that. Her first marriage ended when she cheated on her husband.
      Therein lies the falsehood of equality politics. Men can go get a massage/happy ending on a business trip, and return loving husbands to their wife and kids.
      When a woman cheats, the marriage is over. She cannot divorce herself from her emotions, and the affair spills over into her everyday affairs, thus poisoning the marriage.
      Equality = women copying men, but failing miserably.

      1. They did a study and mens greatest fear was having their girlfriend cheat on them and get fucked by another dude (due to risk of her getting pregnant and raising another mans offspring) while women’s greatest fear was that their man would fall in love with another girl (due to risk of her losing resources from the man).

  7. Even if you don’t do all these things, she could still cheat on you.
    So just move on if she does. No reason to stick around. Hell, even Jesus said it was fine to divorce if your wife cheated on you.

  8. My husband never has done any of this. I’ve never cheated on him. But then again, when I was single, I never did a one night stand or had friends with benefits. I tried once in my college years. I wanted to blend in with the girls in my dormitory. Everyone was experimenting. I couldn’t go through with it. It seemed so easy for them.
    For me I have to have real feelings for the other person or the idea of sleeping with the other person is just gross. I’m still mystified by how my friends so easily could cut out the need for attachment. All they saw was the illusion of a “good-looking” guy. For one night or for a few nights after they got that illusion and they could pretend their “Ken doll” was whatever they wanted him to be.
    Unfortunately, sooner or later the real person starts to show and the female fantasy crumbles.
    It’s sad to me that these games exist at all between men and women.
    Women want to change men (physically and mentally) after they have them hooked, men want women to never change (physically).

      1. Same to you. People believe in the world they think is true. If you believe everyone cheats, you will only see cheaters. If you believe honesty is the most common trait you will see people as being more honest. If you believe everyone is a liar, you will see liars and also probably think — if everyone is doing it why not me — and excuse your own behavior in doing it.
        Thus your BS must be true. I doubt you could conceive of a world where it isn’t.
        And you likely seek out the things that reinforce that view. You cheat so you find others who cheat that way your world view remains “true”.
        I got away from that crowd, or they got away from me. Cheating people seek cheating people. Those people are the only “real” people to them because they reinforce what other cheaters believe is true. If they see someone who is not “cheating” they simply decide that person must be lying because non-cheating people can’t exist.
        Thus we build a lot of the world we believe in by surrounding ourselves with those that will make it true.

        1. I can respect this take on it but I think to be fair the world of cheaters/liars and whatever other bad shit is WAY bigger than your little world of non cheaters / liars / whores….I mean just look at our cultures for fucks sake.

        2. If you believe honesty is the most common trait and see people as being more honest WITHOUT knowing a damn thing about them, this leaves you vulnerable. This way of thinking is just as naive as that campaign of UK telling women it’s ok to get plastered drunk and put yourself in a vulnerable situation of possibly being raped.
          As they say in boxing, “Protect yourself at all times.”

        3. ” People believe in the world they think is true. If you believe everyone cheats, you will only see cheaters. If you believe honesty is the most common trait you will see people as being more honest. If you believe everyone is a liar, you will see liars………….Thus we build a lot of the world we believe in by surrounding ourselves with those that will make it true. ”
          Spoken like a true female sage! Following your line of reasoning, oh wise one, then all those women who got raped are kinda deserved it since they must have believed that men are rapists and thus surrounding themselves with rapists who made the rapes came true.
          Men on the other hand are prone to believe that other men are assassins on the prowl and thus inviting assassins who assassinated them accordingly.

        4. Your line of reasoning goes off on the rails. You use the bizarre thinking as Social Justice Warriors. In fact I strongly suspect you are a troll from Jezebel. I mean “women who got raped are kinda deserved it…” You think that?
          Are you sick in the head or something?
          No one surrounds themselves with known rapists just so they can believe rape exists. Maybe in your crazy world of Jezebel they do, but not in reality.
          Name these men that are prone to believe that other men are assassins? Can you name some that you personally know that think that way? That way I know what asylum you dwell in.
          You sound like a tin-foil hat wearer. Yes, people who lie are prone to believe everyone is a liar. They see their inner qualities in others.
          What they are is what they see. You’re whacky, so you see your whacky thoughts everywhere.
          I doubt most men see themselves as assassins and thus see that in others.
          That’s crazy. A place you sound like you occupy heartily, troll from Jezebel.
          Go back to Jezebel and have fun with the other loonies there.

        5. I’m not saying believing everyone is honest is without dangers. Just as believing everyone is a liar will often cause one to be permanently unable to make real friends.
          I didn’t delve into the risks of that kind of thinking. I merely stated that these are what people do. People tend to see in others what exists in themselves. A liar sees everyone else as liars. Thus the liar is justified in their behavior because they believe its true of everyone.
          There are many feminists who believe men are “sluts” and thus what women do is fine. Jaded thinking begets jaded thinking.
          I never said people should run around believing everyone is honest or that getting plastered drunk is a good idea.
          I simply stated that the people one chooses to be around will reinforce their views of the world.
          Let’s see you did meet a woman who truly was honest and true and would always be faithful to you. You would laugh in her face at her and probably see her as a slut regardless.
          It simply is not possible for you to meet such a woman because such a woman cannot exist to you.
          Just as radical feminists believe decent men cannot exist.
          If you are not even slightly open to such a thing existing, then it will never exist to you. It can’t. Even if it stands before you, you laugh and call it a “lie”.
          You’re proving my point already. I made my statement in my first comment and your reaction is “LIAR”. Such a thing cannot exist to you and thus will never exist to you.
          Your completely close-minded to the possibility. Therefore, your worldview will be a self-fulfilling prophecy. Since such a thing is not possible in your world, every women or man you meet will be a cheater. And thus you will say, “I’m right” as they are the only people you can see.

        6. Not arguing over which world is bigger or stronger. I think a lot of that is perception. If one grows up in a small town, that small town world will see huge in their view. The ways of its denizens will seem to be the traits of everyone. It’s hard to comprehend outside ones bubble.
          I live abroad and, in the country I live in, they are shocks and amazed that there are westerners capable of using chopsticks. They’re perception of the world outside their borders is drastically different from the reality. In reality there are a lot of westerners who can use chopsticks. However, in their universe we are a tiny, tiny minority who probably think the chopsticks are used to stab the food.
          Cheaters and liars are very small in world because I cut out those people a long time ago.
          A friend admits they’re having an affair to a married man. My reaction “Get the #### out of my sight”.
          Why would I want a person around who is fine with cheating? What do you think I’ll invite you to house parties so you can meet my other friend’s husbands? Do you think I’ll trust you around anyone now?
          I especially have no tolerance for the ones who try to play victim. They want me to accept that they cheat and lie. They want me to tell them they’re still a good person.
          I just tell them, “Nope. You’re a bad person. You made stupid choice. Now live with what you’ve done and get out of my sight.”
          The result is I have very drama-free friends and I’m very happy with that.

        7. *SIGH* And there I was thinking at long last I’ve encountered a female Jedi Master here on ROK but only to be disappointed later on that she is nothing but a garden variety crazy bitch projectionist.
          Bitch please, you’re projecting your insanity on me. Troll from Jezebel? WTF? Whom are you kidding? I’ve been here on ROK for many months, the mods and all the regular dudes here know who I am.
          You’re really gotta try much harder if you want to insult me, by all means please do consult with your fellow cunts, I trust they can give you some finer tips on how to insult a misogynist.

        8. Wrong. People I meet that I don’t know probably are not honest until they prove to me they are honest. That is called building trust.

        9. So a long term troll?
          You prove what I say with each new comment. You see me as wanting to insult me, but you’re very comments show from the start that all you wan to do is insult me.
          As I said, people see in others what is true of themselves.
          The only thing you see in what I wrote were insults. You didn’t even try to counter my statement. You are trolling and not even trying to discuss.
          I responded to your arguments. I pointed out the fallacy.
          Then you went on a ran about how you’re being “insulted”. Ah, poor baby. You have quite the victim mentality.

        10. That is a very good attitude.
          But I would also argue that what we believe is true of ourselves is not necessarily the truth.
          We don’t put a lot of thought in why we like one person and not another. We may not even care to know.
          However, there are likely certain traits we are drawn to, without realizing it, that are familiar and things we seek.
          Perhaps you see yourself as someone who is trustworthy and thus believe there are others like you who are as well. You seek those who carry those “trustworthy” traits and reinforce your view.

        11. ” As I said, people see in others what is true of themselves. ”
          You the one who called me a troll so the real deal is you.
          ” The only thing you see in what I wrote were insults. You didn’t even
          try to counter my statement. You are trolling and not even trying to
          discuss. ”
          Bitch please, if I’m really interested in a back & forth meaningless drivels with some crazy bitch, I’d would have patronize the insane asylum you and your cunt squads are living in.
          ” I responded to your arguments. I pointed out the fallacy. ”
          What fallacy?
          ” Ah, poor baby. You have quite the victim mentality. ”
          Boo hoo hoo, you hurt my feewings! OMG! What a horrible and bitter person you are! Boo hoo hoo poor me and my precious little feewings.

        12. You’re the one who started insulting and then accused me of insulting you. So the real deal remains you. I never sought out your silly opinion on anything you came and have obsessed over mine.
          You use slurs and can’t seem to think of anything more than “bitch”. Which tells me your about as creative as a lamp shade.
          Fallacy. The whole men who get assassinated must see assassins around them? That crazy nonsense you belched out? It’s absolutely nonsensical.
          I clearly have hurt your feelings because you keep whining about how “I do’t care”. I mean that “boo-hoo” you just typed was nothing but a sob fest attempting to declare that you aren’t hurt.
          You need to stop being so sensitive. You sound very beta.

        13. ” You’re the one who started insulting and then accused me of insulting you.”
          Wasn’t my initial sentence to you was “spoken like a true female sage” ? How you found that to be insulting is beyond me. If you don’t know what ‘sage’ means please look it up using Google, it’s not that difficult you know.
          ” You use slurs and can’t seem to think of anything more than “bitch”. Which tells me your about as creative as a lamp shade. ”
          I beg to differ, I can think much more than “bitch” , didn’t I mention about cunt somewhere in my later responses to you?
          ” The whole men who get assassinated must see assassins around them? That
          crazy nonsense you belched out? It’s absolutely nonsensical. ”
          I was merely trying follow the line of reasoning of some idiot whom I initially thought was a female sage, it goes like this :
          “If you believe everyone is a liar, you will see liars………….Thus we build a lot of the world we believe in by surrounding ourselves with those that will make it true”.
          Substitute ‘liar’ with ‘assassin’ then you’ll understand my point and won’t feel so dumb about yourself again.
          ” I mean that “boo-hoo” you just typed was nothing but a sob fest attempting to declare that you aren’t hurt.”
          Whaaaaaaaatttt?? You actually think I wasn’t actually hurt?? OMG! Don’t you know I have such a delicate little feewings, you insensitive jerk! Boo hoo hoo I mean your like, totally, a hideous creature!
          “You need to stop being so sensitive. You sound very beta.”
          And instead become a insensitive omega loser bitter jerk like you?? OMG! Thanks but no thanks!

        14. “spoken like a true female sage”.
          You were being serious? It reads as incredible sarcasm. The post you wrote, whether intended or not, reads as very sarcastic and abrasive.
          Nothing you’ve written since as shown you as anything but abrasive, sensitive and someone who insults.
          Again your point is silly about assassins. I said people see in others what is in themselves. No one sees an “assassin” in themselves. Just as no one sees an engineer in themselves.
          Professions are different from human characteristics. Lying and cheating and deceiving are traits present in humans.
          Liars will justify their behavior by believing everyone else is a liar.
          Cheaters the same.
          But “assassination”, “painting”, “carpentry” ect are learned skills.
          So you believe that there are people who run around believing that everyone around them is an assassin?
          Ridiculous.
          You might as well make yourself more of a joke.

  9. I agree here. Stopping the game is the reason many women have become promiscuous, arrogant little shits. Women look to men because we are the strong providers, and since we showed weakness, they’re attempting to take up the slack when they obviously can. So we men have to step back up to the plate.

  10. A common trait adopted by many women nowadays seems that you could be doing most of 1-12 right, you might even be the best fuck she’s had, yet still get cheated on. Regardless, the abundance at women’s feet (and wise men as well), is unsurpassed currently do to technology, information, and the SJW landscape.
    I theorize that when a woman get’s fucked real well by a new suitor (dominant sex reining king here), she’ll typically stay faithful for the first 1-3 months (unless she’s a total slut), then she’ll track around trying out a few new guys, or reconnect with a few old guys to be reminded (just in case) there are better or equal choices out there. Plus, the King Fucker (you hopefully), doesn’t provide that feeling of security she wants in totality. Why should you, you just started fucking her?
    Think of a squirrel hunting dog. It will go to the tree it believes the squirrel is treed at, bark 1x loudly, then run around sniffing all adjacent trees to be sure it’s on the best scent, then go back to the certain tree and bark 10x loudly. This is of course all after scanning acre-sized sections of woods to find meat.
    The only process women employ logic towards is to categorize men, their desire and ability to objectify. She wants you to fit into one or a few categories. If you fit too many categories, it scares them, because you can really own her soul then. It opposes the YOLO strong independence they feed one another 24/7. Since most have nothing to offer besides their crotch, they’ll give 95% of the pussy to King Fucker, but the other 5% goes to her supporters who provide whatever she selfishly demands to feel safe. As King Fucker, it’s all or none for me.

  11. No Sale!
    Here’s why. Women are biologically suited to spin plates- the hotter they are the more guys are on rotation. Tight game might get you on the sexual roster, but she’s not firing the whole team no matter how awesome one guy is.When a girl ultimatums you and you walk, that shows excitement which keeps her interested. Its not because she doesnt have any other options. Rest assured, shell try again….and again….and again. Eventually you’ll get sick of the repeated comittment attempts and walk…. or she will.
    Further-no man can maintain frame and pass every shit test indefinitely. This is just simple, harsh logistical reality. Unlike SEAL Bud/S and Marine basic training, a females shit tests never end. Worse, they’re diverse-just like military training,even fucking SLEEPING is a ‘shit test opportunity’.
    You can game a girl for 10 hours and pass her shit tests with tight game and good awareness ,but for weeks and months at a time without fail? Good Luck.
    You’ll come home from work one day, go to her place and then realize after you answer her statement “fuuuuuck….that was a shit test, and I just blew it.” You can’t be on Red Alert 24/7 deconstructing every word she says .
    Last-ive found that every “no strings attached” interaction has a time ceiling. I’ll say this could be totally just my experience alone, but I’ve found that from initial opening to “Honey, let’s be a committed couple Or Else” generally spans two to three months.It depends on the girl, her social company, and how fast she thinks you can be domesticated.
    Once she’s dropped the “We Need to Be Official” line, its like fuck buddy Miranda Rights . Time to can it and call a lawyer, cause she’s reaching for the handcuffs-and not the sexy kind either . You might dodge one or two Ultimatums. You won’t dodge ten.
    When a girl reads off that she plans to lock your ass down, its time to go find a different chick. Write off the current squeeze and move on.

    1. One of the most respectful ways a girl asked me to be exclusive was like this, after a decent fuck session;”Hey, I want you to be sexually exclusive with me because I know you like raw dogging, and I don’t want to catch something.” Me:”Since you presented it that way, Ok, but I expect sex whenever I want it.” Her: “Ok.”
      I continued fucking an ex for a month, and she found out and ended it. When she asked why the hell I did that, I said;”3 times you denied me sex when I wanted it.” Her;”But I was sick, and I was sleeping and exhausted the other 2 times.” Yea, but you refused and the drive isn’t worth it to come to your place to just lay around unresponsive. I said;”Here I had a girl I was exclusive with and what was I doing instead? Wacking off, and that was unacceptable. I said ‘whenever I wanted it.’” << that was at the 3 month mark exactly

    2. “Women are biologically suited to spin plates- the hotter they are the more guys are on rotation.”
      I’m pretty sure its the other way around, Men are biologically suited to spin plates- and the hotter/more succesful they are the more girls in their rotation.
      A woman has no purpose of having 8 different guys in a rotation biologically because she will still have to wait 9 months for the pregnancy after insemination no matter how many dudes she has sex with. Women want the alpha, the highest status male they can tie down and get so that when he makes them pregnant they can have access to his resources/food while they are a liability for 9 months until giving birth.

      1. Exactly.
        9 months is a long time to be out of comission.
        A lot can happen to a guy in 270 days. Keeping dudes on the back burner means shes got options when /if Primary Dude gets taken off the board. Guy A falls off, she goes to guy B. Don’t tell me dudes won’t raise another guys seed either-its literally happening all the time.

        1. Its mostly beta cucks that are willing to take in a single mother, you will never see a high status alpha male do that shit and this is the type of men all women dream about. Not the fat 45 year old balding beta office worker that that they have to settle for do to declining looks.

  12. Lol there’s probably 122342342358290402342394230485230523234023528 reasons on why she will cheat on you. Women are programmed to cheat on you in our generation, just learn to accept it when you fall in love with a shlut.

      1. you can´t not fall in love if she is gorgeous your ideal looking girl. the point is to not behave like someone who is in love.

    1. Here’s a temporary fix. “I fell in love with all attractive women simultaneously.” See how easy that was? Just don’t tell anyone you did.

  13. Was waiting for the part where you were going to say she started blowing up your phone after you walked out nonchalantly. That part is predictable about women.

  14. If I cheat is it her fault also? So far I have cheated on every chick, I never felt guilty but I never felt like I should blame her.
    Another thing is, if ‘game’ never ends, why would anyone commit?
    This is a clear example why there should be a structured society instead of a ‘free’ one.
    You either need a religious society in which case your wife fears ‘god’ or a society based on other principles.

  15. A God-fearing Christian wife would not cheat… if it would happen, i could so easily accept it without any arguments. I would not be depressed at all. it would just be all over, i would have the testament that EVERY GIRL IN THE WORLD cheats if she only get the chance.
    and i would never recognize a female as human ever again. i would view the cutest of girls as a sidney funnel web spider.

  16. Cheating is the woman’s ultimate shit-test.
    To test a man’s sense of self-worth and mettle, she wants to see whether or not you’re willing to accept her slutty behaviour.
    If you pass the shit-test and walk, she will never forget you and might become an alpha widow.
    If you fail the shit-test and stick around, she will never respect you the same way and has to move on to betas after collecting 30 more slut-points.
    Most men fail this test because it is a feeling of humiliation that is unique but it is indeed a shit-test you can pass. The only difference is this is a test you have to pass just for yourself.
    The feminist “you go girl” narrative + her jealous girlfriends + her wanting to test you will likely lead to her cheating in this day and age. People of the past had the sense to let girls know that cheating is pretty much the one thing they can do to lose their man’s commitment and the social group’s respect. But of course our current culture is no longer built on sense, and is washing away like a sandcastle in overcast.
    Like D.Sharpe says you should always be checking to see if you are playing your best hand but don’t tie yourself up in knots wondering what you did wrong, or whether you are not man enough, or some such bullshit if she cheats. It’s quite possible that you played all your cards right but she still rationalized going out drinking with some tattooed nerd who tells stories of his brave social justice crusades, or a tortured Macbook DJ, etc.
    I’m of the opinion that if you’re expecting the modern woman to behave responsibly in the long-haul you are setting yourself up for a world of pain.
    If she cheats, just walk. She fucked up. End of story.

    1. Cheating will get you nowhere! If you take her back after she cheated on you, she’ll cheat and leave you soon after. If you kick her out of your life, then she’ll realise what she lost. It’s a lose/lose type of thang

      1. You really can’t go back after she’s cheated. At that point, she should be considered “trash” by any man.

      2. The best thing you can do is get a blowjob from her, pull out when you’re about to nut and nut all over her face, and then dump her ass.

        1. Nice, just one last “get out of my house” fuck! like it

        2. exactly, if you can kick her out without giving her the opportunity to clean her face, +++

    2. “The only difference is this is a test you have to pass just for yourself.” wicked deep. this should hit at the heart of anyone here whose been cheated on.. which would be most of us at least once.

    3. “Tortured macbook DJ” hahaha
      Macbook DJS- because carrying crates of records is too damn heavy

    4. ‘If she cheats, just walk. She fucked up. End of story.”
      EXACTLY! Too many dudes get caught up in the “why’ and “what did i do wrong?”
      Just pick yourself up, move forward, and never look back!

    5. I once heard or read this somewhere and have never forgot it:
      Men love women…Women love what men do for them.

    6. What have you done in a scenario where there is strong suspicion, and even anecdotal evidence but she vehemently denies it? Just curious mainly, as I’ve both walked and stayed with different girls in that scenario depending on if I believed her bs or not.

      1. If you have a gut feeling that something aint right, you’re probably right.
        I broke up with my ex before I found out she was cheating just because she was behaving strangely and disrespectfully. I had trouble completely turning away at the time though because we were in the same workplace and because I’d already invested so much. I had trouble just throwing everything away like it meant nothing.
        I found out soon after that she was cheating on me and I had to cut her off completely. Her behaviour after that was inconceivable. Trying to get me back and offering me sex while at the same time slandering my reputation in the workplace and with my friend group. She basically wasn’t happy until my entire life was destroyed.
        If you cut a girl off because you felt she wasn’t being loyal, I bet you were right sad to say. I don’t know where you live but where I’m at the girls can be a nightmare.

    7. This. I had a girl who threatened to cheat during a fight. She said something like, “I’m going to Cancun next year and it’s going to be a fuck fest”. I had to walk, but it was hard because I had so much invested.
      The greatest power you can have as a man is the ability to walk away from any chick who disrespects you.

    8. You’ve pretty much summed it all up with this very good comment. Just to put some historical context with it, if we go back to the past of about about 250 years ago, this: “People of the past had the sense to let girls know that cheating is
      pretty much the one thing they can do to lose their man’s commitment and
      the social group’s respect.” would translate as: “…let girls know they would be hung at a public gallows for cheating on their husbands (and vice versa)”.
      Also, a girl that drinks is a municipal cum-dump in waiting – it gives them the plausible deniability to set up the cheating shit-test, if they’re so inclined. At best, she’ll be a toxic presence, as the subtle damage alcohol inflicts upon her brain and body will exacerbate her innate irrationality and bitchy nagginess. I’m aware that hardline stance leaves little room for the pleasure-seeking lifestyle.

    9. It’s hard to find a woman now who understands why its not okay for them to hang out with platonic male friends when they are in a relationship. Nowadays women think it’s perfectly okay to go out partying with platonic male friends until last call, while their boyfriend sits at home with his thumb up his ass. If he tries to express his concerns for this type of behavior, he’s “insecure, controlling, blah blah.” It’s totally fucked now. You know her male friends would fuck her if given the opportunity, and that just drives you crazy. Women now want to have their cake and eat it too. They want to hedge against their current relationships by keeping 20+ beta orbiters around as backup plans, or to use as a weapon to make you jealous.

      1. You pretty much no choice other than to never get yourself too emotionally/financially invested. You always need to have an escape route planned. Women’s hypergamy is out in the open now and most betas just accept it kuz they’d feel like a failure without the “validation” of a woman.

  17. Haha! For sure, the game NEVER ends. If you want a peaceful marriage and control of your family, you have to maintain frame, even after 15 years. That’s just the way it is nowadays.

    1. I have come to the conclusion that the only way to have a peaceful marriage is to marry someone young and knock them up every 2 years for 12 years. Make enough money to pay all the bills and travel for work. By the time the 6th kid is in college you can retire. This takes an immense amount of resources as you will have to provide not just for needs but for wants. Make sure the hierarchy of the family life clearly has you at the top and act accordingly.
      This is very difficult. I cannot do this. As such I am abstaining.

      1. Agreed. It’s a great plan, difficult and expensive nowadays, but easier if you find a woman with old fashioned skills that can cut the cost of a household.

      2. It takes a skill that most men were taught long ago, but do not have now, which is emotional detachment. It is our BEST weapon against women. Not just keeping them quelled, but sincerely not even hint at expressing anything when she goes crazy except something bordering on boredom and a slight desire to look out the window at the birds.
        Lots of Game theory I read seems to be trying to bake this back into men, but it’s compartmentalized (aloof, insane confidence, abundance mentality, etc) all basically pointing towards the same goal.
        Your point about the established hierarchy is spot on.

        1. agreed. I cannot do it. Even if I had everything else in place, my desire for that lifestyle isn’t there. If only the top 3% of males married and procreated things might actually get better in 100 years or so.

        2. Yeah but it doesn’t work like that.
          Reality is more like the first 10 minutes of Idiocracy

      3. My buddy did that exactly while banging countless hunnies on the side. Lol. He had 4 kids with his ex wife through her prime. Eventually, and obviously, she knew what was going on all along. And after the youngest kid was about 8-9, she divorced him. He makes good money, but it still hit him pretty hard.

      4. With a younger female is possible.Problem lies in providing for all those children, proper child rearing is insanely expensive.If you knew the costs of raising 6 kids in Africa you would rather get only 3.

    1. Oz’s wife is a lard ass I’ve heard.

    2. Dr. Oz, a heart surgeon, who says he “loves women of all sizes.” Where the fuck are his medical ethics?
      That’s like a cancer doctor saying he loves all smokers.

      1. That’s why he loves them. If we were all healthy, why would we need his services. His bread and butter depend on the multitude being unhealthy.

    3. From the way Oz dodged the “lard 300lber quote” i could tell he is very clever/quick witted , no wonder he is so successful
      Oz is a magician of the “hive mind” because he thinks quicker then they do
      he gets people in a trance to his own mentality sort of like a soothing apologist and than takes over the lazy minded and does their thinking for them, a good cult leader i say

      1. His core demographic are fat women that want to be healthy but don’t really want to put in the effort to do it. He knows exactly what he’s doing and how to keep women watching him.

        1. Really Roosh is a perfected ratings booster for his show. Goal: Find guest for show who precisely dislikes the core physical attribute of our target demographic = Roosh. Frankly, I hope he goes on more shows like this.

        2. Yup, that 4 million dollar a year salary makes Dr. Oz look real good to them.

    4. I love how Dr. Oz has to end the clip by saying “But Roosh we’re all messed up! We’re messed up that’s who we are!”
      If we follow that logic, then their claims that Roosh is a big bad fat shamer are completely irrelevant. We’re all messed up Dr. Oz that’s who we are bro! If you wanna be fat and I wanna make fun of fat people, it’s all good! You can have the landwhales no one is telling you otherwise!

    5. Notice how the women are shaking their heads in disbelief when Roosh explains all men would prefer a thin woman over a fat woman. They just can’t except this piece of Red Pill wisdom.
      The thing for me is, I learned fat shaming from women, they are the ones who are mean to the fat girls, they are the ones who shame men for dating fatties. A lot of times your guy friends are happy that your getting laid, just don’t bring her by the house she eats all the food.

      1. Right…and how many of those women in the audience will date a fat man over a thinner man? It’s hilarious that there is such a double standard.
        Women expect men to love them “just the way they are” but they expect to love (and be loved) by the skinny man.
        Too fucking hilarious.

        1. the 20/80 rule is especially true in the west. 20% of the men get 80% of the women. The 20% of men aren’t necessarily attractive or ambitious (although it certainly helps), but they fit the mold that pop culture/Hollywood perpetuates. But what all this means is that every woman, from below average to 10 is fucking the 20% of men that fit the mold. That means that everything in the range of below average looking women to slightly above average women think they’re much, much hotter than they really are. It’s been like this for so long now that even men are fooled, they think below average women are smoking hot. They think that fat women are automatically hot just for having half decent cleavage.
          After I got back from Colombia, women who used to be 8’s on my radar suddenly turned into the 3-6 range.

      2. Effing a fat girl is like riding a scooter, fun until your friends see you.

    6. HOLY SHIT, I can’t believe they let Roosh go on Dr. Oz! HAHAHA, bro this is amazing!
      Also Roosh looks fresh as fuck in that outfit he’s wearing on the show.

      1. “This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by doctoroz” … I guess that says it all about Dr. Oz LOL

    7. Awesome clip. I love how he dodged the “would you really date a 300lb lard ass” question.
      No one wants to hear the truth.

    8. Great video. Dr. Oz is another “celebrity”. He should get no credit at all for being a doctor because in that clip, alone, he is saying that it’s ok to love women of any size (it may be ok for him but it’s not healthy). He has a conflict of interest in that as a medical professional he’s giving fat women a “pass” instead of telling them the truth…it’s unhealthy….but his viewers (mostly women) will cheer for him, regardless.
      I thought it was great the way Roosh called him out. We will see if the “doctor” ever hooks up with a fatty (or a thin women).

  18. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxytocin
    “studies have begun to investigate oxytocin’s role in various behaviors, including orgasm, social recognition, pair bonding, anxiety, and maternal behaviors.[4] For this reason, it is sometimes referred to as the “bonding hormone”.”
    There is also evidence that oxytocin is a potent anti-aging signaler
    I meditate to release this hormone daily as it signals longevity switches in the genes,
    http://joshmitteldorf.scienceblog.com/2014/08/09/love-death-and-oxytocin/
    you must stay interested in and have a “love” of life in order to master longevity practices,
    However when you try to generate the hormone the “social connectedness optimism” oxy generated feeling through the fantasy of some stranger holding this key to your own mind….
    which unfortunately we think the missing “oxytocin” hormone is in some fucking stranger future unicorn female , we become SLAVES, End the mind-control game and simply start practising releasing the hormone by itself through advanced meditations
    feel your connection to the universe, the amazing feeling of your own conscious mystery, the “awe” sensation is also the oxy, the feminine is just symbolic of your connection to the deeper mysteries of the universe, aka the oxycontin hormone, it’s not WOMEN you love but the symbolic release of the hormone in your brain, so forget women and simply free yourself, It is not the same as the LIBIDO energy, the oxy energy is the “connectedness” hormone, hence, jerking off 10 times a day will not help longevity
    You should be experiencing “the love” every day for longevity and trying to get a reliable source from your own practises not some CUNT that causes more trouble than it’s worth, and becomes a parasite in your life , the hormone IS THAT POWERFUL
    -I aint lookin for nothing in nobody’s eyes
    :bob dylan
    yes, so develop a connection to the mystique of the cosmos, just keep practising till you have a sense of loving calm for 20 or so minutes a day to release the oxy and numb the stress hormones this helps slow down immune senescence which is responsible for all sorts of inflammation

  19. “The Game never ends…ever”…a new maxim. Golden advice. It does suck though that we have continually perform like trained seals. It seems like us mens have to do all the work…

    1. “”The Game never ends…ever”.”
      You can invent your own game though..
      Here is what you do.. You start the game by yourself, and if anyone wants to join, they can play, but the moment they break the rules, they are out of the game, you are always in control, hence in the position of strength. We say “alpha”
      Now, the “beta” tries to join an existing game which is made up of someone else’s rules and is at a dis-advantage from the start because the game is RIGGED
      Once you are having fun and loving life and succeeding on your own, the parasites start to develop an attraction to your vitality and strength since they are weak and dependant and it’s nature’s ultimate shit-test
      if you fail the shit-test, you’ll probably fall in love and lose everything in a divorce 7-15 years later
      If you win the shit test, you’ll stay single, and realize that the experience was simply the “apex” and it was all downhill from there , you’d see that they were not adding to your existence, but actually stealing other more rich experiences you could have with others
      the zen quote ‘if you are high” careful you may fall

    2. Reasons women cheat… because they’re inherently hypergamous by nature. Its in their evolutionary biology. They’re always looking for a better deal… looks or money depending on their stage in life.
      Remember she doesn’t believe its “cheating” if she “fell out of love”. If a female isn’t wearing a ring on her finger, or living with a man, is she really “exclusive” with anybody?

      1. It’s not just looks or money. Eliot Game is a proven disaster.

        1. Eliot Rogers? He has nothing to do with game. That’s like blaming the batman movie series for the mental case who shot up the cinema in colorado.

        2. Elliot was not particularly good looking and lived in pretty much the richest area around, he was not even rich compared to his peers

        3. Eliot Rogers had mental issues way before he fixated on game. Like the guy who shot up the theater in colorado was messed up in the head long before he fixated on batman. If they hadn’t fixated on those things, it would have been something else.

        4. He had a BMW, His dad assistant directed in the Hunger Games movie, and he looked well above average like 7/10. idk what your talking about he’s a clear example of how looks and money in itself do nothing.

        5. His dad never gave a fuck about him and that had a huge impact on him. He lived with his mom and moved twice into a smaller house than before. He even complained about not being as rich as his peers.
          He was like 5/10 (6 for face 4 for body, he was like 5’8 and skinny)

        6. Yeah he did have a tiny body, like 130lbs or something like that but girls were all over the internet talking about how hot he was after the shootings so he could have done okay with women.

        7. Really? I did not actually find that to be true. I expected that but most said he was a nerd etc.
          You need to be a little more hardcore than this. The Columbia shooters have a lot of female fans.

        8. Yeah, he was modestly attractive and rich as fuck. So “good looking money game” is beta at best. If you’re looking to be locked down and sucked dry, go for it, but it rarely works on the hot 20 year olds.

        9. Because he became a murderer, which is bad boy hot. Ironic in its own way since he died.

        10. Or he set the bar too high. He wanted women with higher SMV than himself. He would’ve had no difficulty banging a 5 and below.

        11. None of that matters if the man is mental. Looks, money, game, it all blows up if he is mental. You can’t be a life coach and mentor for an Eliot Rogers and get him laid and solve his problems. That just delays his rampage. He would have lashed out for other reasons eventually. Killed his parents, or college teacher who failed him, coworkers, etc.

        12. You should read his manifesto. The dude literally never even approached in his life, he expected women to come up to him and beg for his dick.
          He could have EASILY got a hot girl if he gained some type of personality and confidence, I mean he was a good looking kid who had a rich daddy and a luxury car among a bunch of poor struggling college kids.

  20. 10 – 11 -12 could all be combined, you stopped taking care of yourself. But sometimes I see a man who looks like a disaster and still has a good looking girl on his arm. So there might be other ways to compensate.

  21. Thank you for this post. It reminds us to keep ourselves in check and never let our guards down. I guess that it’s nature’s defense mechanism, if you stop being a worthy alpha male, the chicks will ride another cock until you put your shit back together.

    1. Women cheat on alphas. Being alpha means she’s less likely to cheat, but it won’t stop her. What’s better than having an alpha boyfriend…? Having two alpha fucks. This is one of the reasons I think RP theory gets over-hyped. You can’t stop women from being women.

  22. Its almost as if the entire gender is incapable of being anything more than lying cheating scumbags with no sense of being accountable for anything.
    They’re not my equals. The only thing they’re good for is being a landing strip for slushy Arabian poo

  23. Going way back, when I was dating the fish that got away, our relationship was interrupted by my trip to Australia that I had been planning since before we became serious. When I got back she ‘fessed up to having cheated on me. I forgave her instantly because I was busy cheating on her in Australia. Other than my one ex who decided to do lesbian porn, I don’t know of any others who cheated. Then again, maybe I am just stupid that way.

      1. She is on a site called AmateurCanada under the name “Francis”. She had been packing on the weight for a while so it wasn’t a great tragedy when I had to next her after that stunt.

  24. Fuck this shit.
    This is entirely too much work for such a meager reward.
    I’d rather p4p and get a dog that is not nearly as high maintenance and requires less training.

  25. Wow, what a shitty article. The solution to over-privileged and narcissistic women is not to put them in their place but to give them everything they want and read their mind. I’m speechless.

    1. Haha yep sure is. Reeks of pussy pedalising whilst trying to make it look like game. Chicks cheat because they’re narcissistic and will cheat on the author as well. Hilariously bad article in my opinion.

  26. 1-It is rarely bcause of man fault. We do have to take responsabilty for our responsabilities BUT we DO NOT HAVE to take responsabilities for her mistakes.
    2- I have some disagreement. 9 and 4. I do think that porn is better than real woman. The only reason I go with a real woman is to get what I don’t have with porn = emotions. That sound beta but I don’t think so, I am just looking for what I do not have with porn. 4- Well, some guys are really trash and I see no problem telling the truth about them. the only good thing about 4 is that it should NOT be done too much because it show that I am trying to impressed her which doesn’t work but I tell that this guy is an idiot for driving his car wrongly I will do it and call him an idiot.

  27. 1-It is rarely bcause of man fault. We do have to take responsabilty
    for our responsabilities BUT we DO NOT HAVE to take responsabilities for
    her mistakes.2- I have some disagreement. 9 and 4. I do think
    that porn is better than real woman. The only reason I go with a real
    woman is to get what I don’t have with porn = emotions. That sound beta
    but I don’t think so, I am just looking for what I do not have with
    porn. 4- Well, some guys are really trash and I see no problem telling
    the truth about them. the only good thing about 4 is that it should NOT
    be done too much because it show that I am trying to impressed her which
    doesn’t work but I tell that this guy is an idiot for driving his car
    wrongly I will do it and call him an idiot.

  28. Dump her useless ass way before any of the points raised in the post become an issue. Also, let her know it’s coming. And lifting weights just to keep some flaky pussy interested? No way man. That’s sounds like Beta fear driving you, if that’s the prime motivator..

  29. Num 3 is big in my book its so many guys that can nit say “NO” We all have that friend that can talk big shit within a circle of male friends but everyone knows his woman runs him completely.

  30. Hating on other guys in the presence of your woman is a feminine trait and screams lack of confidence.

    I actually banged a hot girl because of idiots who did just this. They were all coworkers of mine who trashed me behind my back because I wasn’t a good-old country boy like them and they thought that that should mean something with her, one of our very few female employees and the only attractive one.. Long story short, they had no game, were thirsty and always going out of their way to impress her.
    Totally did not work out for em.
    Oh, and I now work in the medical field around mostly women and I cannot_tell_you_how_much_more_sensitive_their_noses_are from our own.
    Never let your guard down when it comes to personal hygiene.

  31. Question, if a girl asks you to get her a cloth after you bust a nut all over her is that considered a shit test?

  32. 4. I once put down guys who really were losers, like mouthbreathers and peons, and it seemed to work.

  33. Hey if you beat yourself over for a girl than you are losing your frame of mind. She will know that you become a nervous wreck when she cheats on you and will use that against you. If she cheats tell her that you know that she’s cheating and say straight up you can’t be sticking your d in a woman that has another d going in her. Be a man. Whatever her actions will be don’t pick up the phone again when she calls. Leave her to suffer. Only reconciliate if she is down to tears in forgiveness and on her knees begging to be taken back. In a calm professional demeanor you think about it and finally demand her to do humiliating tasks to prove her resolve of not doing it again sexual or not. She also have to be at your beck and call for anything, sex, company or anything you desire your ideal woman do for you. This is far more effective than physical violence. As a final test have her call the man she cheated have her call to meet him and you go with her. Have your arm around her close to you intimately and have her tell him that she made a mistake that she was through with him. Of course she will and might see him on the side but hey that means you can rinse and repeat previous activities of making her feel sorry.

  34. It takes me 200 approaches before i barely get a decent fuck or girlfriend equal to or above a 6 . After all that work I should have the right to cheat.

      1. I don’t do online dating . I stopped that shit 3 years ago . I’m exaggerating on the number but it sure feels like it takes that many approaches before I score .

  35. The best way to keep your game tight is to assume your woman will cheat you one day in the future. You will not attach, you will not feel guilt when cheating on her, you will not value her higher than you.
    There is an intrinsic instinct in men to protect and guard a territory. But we are conscious creatures too, and we all can understand that today there is no point in doing that anymore. With all the slutty behaviour of the western women, attaching is like trying to be a pesant sowing wheat in a war front with constant incursions and bombings from both sides of the war. Nothing is going to grow there man, don’t be stupid.

  36. No, if a girl cheats on me, it isn’t my fault. All of this alpha posturing won’t keep a woman from cheating. You have some of the most powerful and successful athletes and musicians in the world whose “market value” completely obliterates that of the woman they are with and she still ends up cheating.
    The only thing that keeps a woman from cheating is her personal values and characters, which is something that is sorely lacking in a lot of today’s women. You can ‘have it all’ and a woman still cheats because the thrill of something new will outweigh everything you’ve brought to the table because you’ve become common.

    1. I’ve had women tell me they get excited when a new guy gives them attention . They cheat soon after because they can and get away with it .

      1. Hulk Hogan’s wife cheated on him with the pool-boy. On paper, Hogan was far above and beyond this pool boy in value… way more ‘alpha’ and yet he still got cheated on. Like you said, sometimes it’s just merely that they are getting a ‘new thrill’ and getting a shot of feelings from the new guy. He doesn’t even really have to offer anything. he simply has to be able to give her an injection of feeling, and if she has no morals, she’s off to the races.

    2. I think there’s some truth to that. If you’re living the life you want, you can’t and shouldn’t always be in a place where you’re keeping your eye on her. In fact, running around paranoid about it is completely feminine. At some point when you’re away doing your thing, another guy is going to game her, she’ll get tingles and give it up. If it bothers you, the right answer is just to next her and move on.

      1. When it’s said and done, there’s not really much need to worry about it. Just put yourself in a position to where if she does cheat, let her go and move on with minimal repercussions to yourself. With that said, it’s important for a man to realize that he can’t ‘game’ a woman into loyalty. She has to have loyalty in her character. If it’s not there, then it doesn’t matter what you offer her. She’s going to want something different. Think about the story of Adam and Eve in the Bible, which describes the nature of many women perfectly. She was offered the fruit of every single tree in Eden except one. Which one did she go for? The one that was ‘different’– the one she was denied. You can give a woman everything and yet if she doesn’t have loyalty in her, she will cheat simply because she sees a man that’s ‘different’ or seems forbidden. That’s one of the mistakes I see in the community… that you somehow need to chase dimes and that you can somehow ‘game’ them into loyalty. Not going to happen. With game, all you’re doing is working yourself into a time slot on her schedule. You will never know how long she will stay or leave. Whether she will be loyal is up to her character. The key is to find high character women, which are extremely rare, and to live your life in a fashion to where a woman isn’t such a big part of it that you are adversely affected if she leaves.

  37. No thanks, I’ve given up on ltr’s with women a long time ago and love my life as a man going his own way, off the grid, no mortgage, do whatever I want and go whenever and where ever I want to. Good luck with “the family”.

  38. In the battle of adultery a real red pill man can overcome a cheating cunt. 99% of women cannot recover emotionally from a man who cheated on her. Bring it on bitches !

  39. Are you kidding? There are a multitude of reasons why women cheat that have nothing to do with that list. It’s much worse now than in eras past because traditional morality and restrictions women used to observe have been eviscerated.. I was engaged as a very young man. Pretty dumb huh? Not unusual in the blue collar environment I was in. My fiance dumped me for a neighborhood tough guy, in fact she was going behind my back for months and me the blue pill nice guy had no idea. She married the guy, they are still together and according to friends that know them the tough guy has turned into a yes dear how high kind of marshmallow. In another LTR she got tired of my incessant nice guy blue bill beta boy ways and decided to branch out. Dumped me, rode the carousel, eventually found a beta producer, married him raised a family. In another situation my need to be away sometimes for months at a time caused major problems. I have seen friends, acquaintances, co workers, neighbors dumped by their wives/girlfriends for a variety of reasons and sometimes apparently no reason at all other than she felt like it. The advice here is good, but IMHO pertains mainly to young dudes in a LTR.

  40. I don’t know about you Donavan but when women meet me I’m rarely clean shaven, groomed or ‘well dressed’. I am however always hard for women to ignore as a Male presence and someone they feel greatly exhilarated by.
    Do you feel you need to try so hard with women? I thought you said you had Game dude?
    This is all made up I can sniff it out a mile off. You aint no player son.

  41. I am glad that I’ve discovered ROK and lifting at my age, preventing me from being brainwashed by leftist media feeding the beta mentality that women are all angels. I feel like having this list to refer to is good to keep myself in check for these twelve things.

  42. Yep plenty of good points, but I will not absolve a woman of her responsibility to do what’s right as well. No man on earth can constantly do everything you suggest without getting tired once in a while. This does not give the bitch the right to cheat. I met a woman who was poor, and had some a genetic condition called congenital adrenal hyperplasia syndrome. She could not have sex without an operation. I married her thinking it was going to be much more extensive than it was, but I was willing to put up with some shit. At the time, I had a stack of cash in the bank and was built like a brick shit house. Fast forward a year, and at the age of 30 I lost my mom, got seriously hurt at work and found myself unable to do all of the stuff this guy recommends in the article. I couldn’t lift weights, was cranky from all of the pain I was in (2 herniated discs in my neck, and one in my back) and had the management at work trying to plant evidence (empty shell casings in my tool box at work) and get me put in prison while I was off getting my neck operated on. I ended up in a 3 year legal battle. Bitch wife wanted a divorce and cheated on me and moved in with the next door neighbor. She forgot all of the shit I went through to be with her (16 months of me driving 500 miles a week to see her) and her pussy not working. After the smoke cleared, the law suit is over, I am a multi millionaire, and getting back in shape, and the bitch wants to be back together again after guy she was with cheated on her. Foolishly I gave her another chance, she had no guilt and didn’t even say she was sorry for what she did (cheating on me when I needed her the most). It didn’t work. The moral of the story: IF A WOMAN FUCKS UP JUST ONCE IN ANY MAJOR WAY, KICK HER ASS DOWN THE ROAD. NEVER EVER FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE TO BE ABSOLUTELY PERFECT LIKE THIS ARTICLE SUGGESTS. God made woman to serve men, not the other way around. Now I am not saying to not have game, be in shape, and have it going on, but we all go through lows, and a good woman will stay with you, a piece of human shit woman will bail on you. I know, I have seen foreign woman who aren’t all fucked up stay with my buddies through thick and thin. Go check out Brazil, Estonia, the Czech republic. Don’t chase or put up with a bitch. Piss on all of the bad American woman. It isn’t even worth your time to go through all of the effort and shit to keep a bad woman in check. Employ that effort in self improvement and your own life, find a good humble woman, and she will chase you instead of you having to worry about all of this. Anything else is a recipe for disaster

  43. Whilst this is definitely true to extent, there are so many sluts out there these days that are just uncontrollable I reckon. Like, you could have the tightest game, but they will still suck dick on the side. Sloots gonna sloot, as they say!

  44. Women have checklist, and experiencing everything before marriage is one of them, doing something crazy is another, fucking a black guy is another, if they don’t hit all the points they will at some point. And cheating is a check point. Women want to have it all. Multiple cocks at once.
    Cheating isn’t your fault, it is the cheaters fault. Men have a problem when they try to “fix” every problem. Not understanding women WANT problems. It is on their checklist. If a man tries to fix a broken women ie forrest gump. We all know what happens. You cannot fix broken women. The only women you can fix are your daughters at best, because that is the only woman whose ass you can beat and get away with it legally.

  45. in other words, make sure you keep a good leash on your women. Women today have so many options than they ever had in history of mankind. Women have it so good in western country especially the United States. With so much option and choices, women can easily flake and dump their boyfriend over trivial shit. In result, many men will either break down or become desensitized to women to the point of not giving a slight fuck about relationship and just pump and dump like me. Fucking a women is only notch above fucking a fleshlight and jacking off with a hand. Yes nothing beats the real thing but when you are done, you are to discard her because she will never be your “soulmate”. Proceed to pump and dump and continue on.

      1. Yes, they have lost. They have nothing, I don’t think they even have their dignity.

  46. Typical PUA / Feminazi bullshit. This is why I always warn everyone who will listen that PUAs and Feminazis are in bed together. They make a big show of being sworn enemies out in public but behind closed doors, they gettin’ they freak on.
    Blaming tha man for everything wrong in a relationship is a textbook Feminazi tactic. PUAs and Feminists, they are allies, not enemies!

  47. Well this is cool and all. But frankly I’m tired of having to be on my toes all of the time and answering shit tests. In fact, shit tests annoy me so much, that I pretty much leave the relationship as soon as they reach a certain level..
    Getting laid, or maintaining a relationship, should not be a constant stressful experience and dealing with shit tests. When they shit test me, I just call them out on it, tell them what they are going to do, watch them deny it and then go about doing exactly what they said they wouldn’t do, and thereby giving them the rope to hang themselves.
    For instance, the last girl I was seeing was something of a record. 6 weeks of submissive behavior from her and not a single shit test. Then all the sudden she pulled the “I need space” gambit. So I said okay, and just quit talking to her. To texting, nothing. Well she text me back about a week or so later and said “Why aren’t you talking to me?”
    “Well, typically when a woman wants “Space” that means she is interested in someone else or just wants to move on, so that’s what I’m doing, just moving on.”
    So she texted back “I’m not like all those other girls!”
    So she invited me over to fuck. So I did. I got more of the “I really feel I need some space, but I wanted to see you tonight.”
    I said “okay” and left.
    a week later she’s bragging on facebook about the flowers she got from the next guy who was slated to replace me. So I unfriended her. One less worry.
    I called it, she denied it, and then went and did exactly what I predicted she would do, and it never once occurred to her that I was right.
    This is the kind of shit I’m tired of dealing with over, and over and over agian. Woman after woman. It is always the same damn thing. A 6 week fling and then I’m back to hustling the streets again for another pick up. It’s too much like WORK these days!
    When I go into the world of pick up 10 years ago. It was easy. But the last 5 years or so, the women are getting nastier and nastier . Harder and harder to deal with on any level and more and more angry and jaded.

    1. Don’t know about pickup 10 years ago. But datingapps and websites like Tinder, Match.com, PoF and all those other national sites you have in your own country are inciting hypergamy. And it’s only for about 10 years those sites really took of. Women now have so much choice from men, without ever leaving the house. Instant validation, night after night guys line up, spam their inboxes. No wonder they rather just date the few studs and ignore all the 7- guys.

      1. Oh I know it. That’s part of the reason I’m glad I learned to play an instrument and joined a band. The women just advertise themselves for you. Lol last night’s pickup I did nothing more than look at girl standing in line at the bathroom at a break and said “hi”

    2. Like I said, once you’ve landed a fish, you shouldn’t be forcec to still play it. That’s hell.

  48. Ever since becoming a MGTOW I never have to deal with ANY of this shit. I have more money, more free time, and less BS in my life. BLISS.

  49. I’ve been in an LTR for over two years. We met online. She’s quite the drama queen but I thought I had it under control.
    Yesterday I get an email from the dating siteI met her on.The account has been inactive for over a year. I figure maybe they are renewing my subscription or some shit so I log in. The site opens on a search page and who’s dating profile is smack dab in the middle staring back at me… with pics I took of her, no less.
    She denies and obfuscates, finally getting around to blaming me.
    AWALT.
    Back into the pond I go.

    1. You lose em the way you get em. That sure goes for a lot of ways. Young women love the idea of settling as much as the idea of finding a better guy before they finally decide start having children. Maybe…maybe, there still is a better catch out there.. Next time, install a keylogger on the computer and check her more on her phone use. Question her morals. I don’t know about you, but I wouldn’t just trust somebody.

  50. just more proof they should be married off at 15….this stops them from experiencing the modern world, gets them trained to be married(as no one will buy her if she isnt good wife material), and gets the baby making train going early.
    also protects men from most of the BS.
    that said….I am not advocating free reign to abuse your wife. Yes I think a wife needs to be slapped now and then like any child that gets out of line. But daily slaps? bruises? rape? Adultery? no you are not a man, you a damn coward and deserve to get tossed into jail.

  51. I don’t know. It takes a lot, lot, lot to make a girl want to cheat. I would just break up with the guy if it wasn’t working out. Not cheat. Btw, I could care less if you stopped going the weight room. For me the only important things are that you are smart and that you do what you say you will.
    These are really good articles on this site, and think in the right direction but they exaggerate too much.

  52. Why do women cheat? Because they get bored easily. Because they want to. Because they can. Modern cockcarousel riders never will be loyal. Maybe your mother is, she was born in 1940-1960. But now it’s a different story.

  53. all this confuses me. I know blokes who bitch and lie to women about other men all the time. Many women LOVE bitching and gossiping, they don’t care if it’s with a man or woman. Women mess your head up and are hypocrites.

  54. Truthfully this article is amazing, humanity needs more of this and less of the hippy garbage that is posted on conventional threads. I’m down to burn the patchouli and talk about the age of aquarius but I’d rather have sex with young, hot girls… sex can fix A LOT of problems in a relationship and is HUGE ( even though she’ll never tell you ). I’d say the biggest part about really giving your lover a reason to not only stay around but beg you into bed is being able to have the TIME for passionate, and near “animalistic” sex. All women love cock and think about it constantly. (mindset to give her EVERYTHING) I had the hardest time with that, But she needs you to give it to her and at first I could maybe last 2 minutes. But articles like this one, and sites like this: http://goo.gl/Iv8sjQ and books like by authors of ross aken, ian kerner and dr. speigel also helped my legendary schlong be known by all the soccer moms ( and now worshipped by my cherish ).
    and yeah, if you lose sight of the dream and get complacent you’ll deserve what happens

  55. Wahat the fuck did I just read? Is this guy for real? Is there no such thing called a soulmate in this world anymore? Everything he wrote here suggests that a man’s gotta take the shit from the woman for his entire life.

  56. Lol….must be speaking from experience…you must be one of those little bitches on multiple backburners. Shit, ever been to a players’ convention? Pimp-hand strong…that’s how you control multiple bitches, take note-never let a bitch know what you really feel and always leave and wait to take that message. I can get a different dip every night of the week for two weeks! Sometime two on different nights. DO NOT feel accountable for any of their little shit, you play YOUR game. I’m hearing a lot of excuses here. Dudes talkin about one? ONE?!?! WTF is the matter with you?
    Nothing more satisfying when you’re invited to two weddings in the same month and can say you had both those ‘pure-of-heart little brides-to-be’. BULLSHIT! Because before you think you ‘found something special’, she freaked with me and did shit she will NEVER do for you, but I’ll never tell you, but she knows and would never tell you bc you’re so damn fragile and might be hurt, lol… I love this, y’all are sad-and I see this over and over and over again. Bye-bye wanna-be playaz

    1. But believe me…she knows who she’ll always come back to when she’s in need and you’re outta town or out with your friends or watching a football game at your buddy’s house…hell yeah, I’m right there in your bed beatin and diggin in that pussy, lol….wheeeew!!! Oh yeah, good college girls, professionals, doctors, lawyers, lots of businesswomen. And I’ve been to a lot of major metropolitan areas just swingin my game.
      Ain’t gonna tell it all though boys, it’d make ya sick, seriously, it would make you sick. Chances are…of everyone that has viewed this blog-I’ve done the wife or girlfriend of them or someone they know…lol, later…

  57. holy crap! if ur woman cheats on you for these retarded reasons, consider yourself lucky you got rid of the immature bitch lol

  58. Because they’re the ones with no skills other than sucking and fucking who are the guilty parties, all there is to it, ignore them boys and guys, get your life straight while they keep trying to legislate their ways into your attention bubbles… tell me one thing women invented, except problems, for everybody with their life long child like lives of lies?

  59. I find it interesting that he keeps saying “You deserve to be cheated on”. That’s grade A bullshit.
    If you want out of the relationship then have the ( In this case proverbial) balls to break up. Rather then scamp around with some douchebag on the side. It’s not just the emotion wreckage of being cheated on, but the exposure to potential STD’s. Or STI’s if you wanna split hairs.
    No one deserves to be cheated on. Male or female. If the it isn’t workin GTFO.
    Otherwise, Like ghostofjefferson said. You make some good points.

    1. Yeah, it’s kinda like “well, fuck my health!!” Women who cheat and their slutty friends/white knight supporters always think you deserved it. You can’t argue with them cuz feminism, bruh. BUT Bring this shit up. I deserve STD’s or exposure to them? Imagine that. I was so lucky I didn’t get any from my ex-wife.
      Imagine wanting to start a new life with an uncurable STD. Out of no fault of your own, you’re going to have to tell every partner your with about it. You’ll face the shame behind it, the guilt ruining someone else’s health (if you all want kids).

  60. A lot of this is bullshit. A cheater is going to cheat regardless of the reason. If someone actually gave a shit they would break up with you instead of betraying you like that. Women can keep their bullshit excuses.

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  62. How about because she is a whore? I see plenty of women that cheat on men that are good to them.

  63. If she’s sick, she needs DICK DOCTORING.
    If she’s naughty, she needs a DICK BEATING.
    If she’s stupid, she needs to SNORT SOME MORE OF YOUR DICK.
    If she’s in a hurry, she’s a selfish bitch and she needs to cancel her plans so she can squander her time servicing you and so she can get fucked some more.
    If she has a headache, flip her over. Staying in one position too long gets crampy & headachey.
    If she’s a feminist, then make a face with your dick and say ”BOO, IT’S THE BOOGEYMAN. This is your lucky day.” Then fuck her brains out.
    Women are but dough. Keep them pounded.

    1. Actually, it’s a credible threat of death if she misbehaves.
      That’s why religious Muslim women behave. In Islam, killing sluts is a moral duty.

  64. Lots of good points, but absolving her of blame for cheating is just wrong. Point blank, some women are just whores. Now, any red pill guy should spot them from a mile away and know better than to wife them up. If you do ignore her whorish traits and make her an LTR, you’re digging your own grave. With this said, I will never completely absolve a woman of her infidelity. If she cheats, it is totally on her, and she deserves being labeled a slut, bitch, cunt, etc.

  65. God, and usually I am a glass-is-half-full kind of guy, but lately I’ve been doing a lot of thinking about marriage. And I realize that this specific article is not referencing the “married man,” but to me it’s all related. The fact of the matter is up until about month ago (and I’m still young, but hell, it doesn’t mean I shouldn’t think about these things) my plan was to one day settle down with a woman and have a family. Raise them right. Big house, white picket fence, all that crap. Now I just don’t know.
    Lately, I’ve been noticing patterns of certain middle-aged women who are married. They wake up angry. They go to bed angry. If you ask WHY they’re angry, they get even MORE angry, because they themselves don’t even know why they’re angry. I don’t want a wife I’ll fucking hate in ten years, especially if we already have children. It doesn’t matter how hot she is.
    Men lately have been, as I like to say, “going MGTOW,” (Men Going Their Own Way is a growing global movement against women of the modern Western ideals) which is cool. Also many more white men have been marrying Asian women. HOT Asian women, I might add, at least in MY area. This is an interesting idea, because I honestly foresee at least the next couple generations of Asian women able to balance qualities like beauty and purity while at the same time retaining their traditional values of being a respectful and loving wife.

  66. You can state you must run game constantly to maintain her, but that is no way to live life. It’s not your fault. You shouldn’t have to entertain someone 24/7 to keep them. 2 cases in point:
    1. I work a hard job. It’s a profession that pays well but with a lot of stress, travel, and at times almost slave labour (out of anonymity I’m not going to fully disclose what it is) I fucked her brains out when I could, but there were many times I was just so wore out I either collapsed in the bed or gave her a half-ass fuck. She didn’t see my sacrifice I was making or her ungratefulness…all she could think about was herself, and eventually cheated on me. That is the catch to being a hard working man these days. You are among the most manly men out there, who’s muscles and stamina are derived from hard work outside and dangerous situations, not the gym….so women desire you more than other men…but often times you can’t give her that pounding and rough ass slappn, etc due to being wore out all the time. So they will fuck other men who have less strenuous lives. It also didnt help that she wanted sex at night, but of course I wanted it in the morning (after being well rested). But make no mistake, when we DO get our rest, be prepared for the ride of your life, honey. These women have no patience, loyalty, or foresight to see any of this. So far, I’ve got a new woman who understands this and things are great.
    2. Suppose you get sick, do you think the majority of women would hold true to “in sickness and in health?” HELL NO.
    It’s never your fault. An ROK author saying so is no better than a Huffington comPost author saying so. It is a blatant lie designed to aid cheaters in deflecting blame, thus radically decaying our culture and morals.

    1. Good points made. Your assertions are particularly true for guys over 40 – I indeed need my rest! I ain’t 22 no more.

    2. Your tired because you have age related low t’s and high estro not because of your work. there is plenty of stuff online to fix it.

      1. What is hilarious to me is last week a peer (who is never out in the field, just office) asked me if was going out for a wild night on Wednesday after work. I said “No. I’ve got some studying to do for this project. Bitches can wait tonight” or to some effect. He said, “Man, you’ve just got low T!”
        Fast forward to the next day he ends up helping us in the field due to a deadline. He calls in sick the next day saying his body is so sore and he can’t hardly move. I see him on Friday and he says “Man, your all’s job is freakn tough!” I simply replied: “nah man, you just got…..low T”😎😎😂😂

        1. I would agree with jollyjoker1 that there are men out there who do in fact have low T, but it is not a catch all. We would also have to agree it is possible that men with high-T sometimes have off days due to stress, hard work, etc.
          For the record, I’m 25, am in great condition, sharper facial features, full beard, extremely deep voice, etc. In other words all the indications of high T. But all it takes is ONE off day to get her Hoe Train TM started up. You can lose your frame even after one fuck-up. There’s just no room for error. My buddy and I always joked that we got away with murder with his height (6’7) and my deep voice with women. Now, we are seeing this super race immune to everything. They’d dump both of us for a man that combined our traits, only then to dump him simply because they want a new guy. He’ll even have a smaller cock, make less money, have worse frame. DOESNT MATTER. He’s new.
          I see no solution in sight for most men other than to “pump n dump” as they say on here. As they also say on here, it’s not that we would do that because we’re pieces of shit, rather, it’s simply a response to what’s out there. Only consolation is these sorry excuses for ladies are ending up alone and regretful once they pass forty.

    3. I’ve seen articles that claim you have to run “game” even after marriage! That’s kind of like being forced to play a fish even after you’ve landed it, what kind of life is that?

      1. Yeah, it sucks, but it’s kind of true in America at least. Many women are just so indoctrinated. Society and their little friends hate the nuclear family. Thus, even the best of the best now have this innate desire to love conditionally, that is, they don’t deserve anything less than the perfect situation.

    4. If you learn to be a natural, there’s no way not to run game all the time. It just happens.

  67. Love how this article received a good 300 comments when it was first posted.
    Now? What, 5 or 6?
    What a bunch of upvote whores you all are.

  68. Her friends are your worst enemy too, especially the divorced ones, they will never say anything positive about you, or your relationship.

    1. The single friends are the worst since they are catty and jealous as all hell and do NOT want their friend to be happy with a new guy. One of my girls has a friend like this-she has zip going on in her love life with the exception of some pussy orbiters and an occasional fuck so she’s always up my girl’s ass, asking her when she’ll be done with me, shit talking me, etc… Luckily my girl knows what she’s up to and ignores her bullshit.

  69. “Point blank, if your girl cheats on you it is your fault. It is your responsibility as a man to keep your woman in check because she is ill-equipped, nor can ”
    Respectfully Donovan I gotta call you on this one, bro. One could follow all your guidelines and still be cheated on. The above quote is exactly what all the douche-bags, know-nothings, and white knights would say in the pua forums. Fastseduction.com was full of blow-hards chanting the “It’s all your fault she cheated on you blah blah blah…” sound-byte anytime anybody shared a less than pleasing field report.
    Whereas I do think your checklist is a good one, we’re still talking about unpredictable, hormonal driven beasts, not toaster ovens. The emotions of females change like the sea and there will always be unforeseen mittigating factors that determines her behavior.

  70. 12. You’ve stopped lifting weights
    I knew a guy in my school whose gf cheated on him with a 5’6 fat dweeb. Bastard mustve weighed 200-220 lbs.

    1. “I knew a guy in my school whose gf cheated on him with a 5’6 fat dweeb. Bastard mustve weighed 200-220 lbs”
      Dude might have had drugs or something else tangible she wanted from him. Many times things are not necessarily what the appear to be.

        1. “Yeah he sold drugs alright. Now he smokes meth lol”
          How hot looking was the female in question? Was she cute or a pig? I can’t help but be a little curious.

        2. Imo she wasnt anything special. Id rate her a 5.5 or 6.
          But the guy looked like a damn Goomba lol.

  71. great article. I think we’ve all made some of these mistakes, I certainly have and most men don’t really get the system down until their early 40s, if ever. As far as the “it’s your fault” thing, I can tell you this: All women get bored and women are only as faithful as their options. If you’re dating 8-10 girls in their 20s (and these are the ONLY ones I date), keep in mind that they can generally have sex with anyone they want, anytime they want. It’s just life, age 18-28 is their time of power whereas men are viable for many decades. A tramp stamp wild girl with a hot libido needs to be fucked about 3 times per day and after 9 1/2 weeks, her oxytocin levels that tell her she’s in love will start to drop and she’ll be on the prowl. Date on the edge and you’re gonna get cut, so get used to it. In the end the person in the relationship who is willing to leave first has the power. It is generally best to keep it polyamorous with these types and date 4 at once ala the mormons or muslims without marrying them. This addresses many of the things on this list, although it is the man’s responsibility to look good. remember, ICE T is as alpha as it gets with bullet proof game, but his slut wife was whoring around in Vegas before he divorced her ass. If you can’t handle a girl fucking other guys or are not willing to date several of them, I would advise against dating these girls in general, as the exceptions to this rule are usually snapped up quick and married. I also hasten to add that one of the easiest and cheapest ways to address some of this is to hire whores on backpage*com. You’re gonna pay for sex, it’s just a question of how you choose to do so, you’re paying for it right now, you just don’t know it! Keep your CPF (cost per fuck) low and outsource some strange in addition to your main chick.

  72. I must point out that ‘friends with benefits’ cannot cheat on their sex partner. If you are having casual sex with someone with the understanding that it is not a committed relationship, it is not cheating if the women lies with another man… Nor is it cheating if the man lies with another woman.

  73. If you’re gonna be Superman with your life on-point 24/7, sure as fuck don’t do it for any bitch.

  74. Precious, useful article.
    I was trapped in point 8 too many times, and a few in 12 and 10 (mostly for professional reasons)… But 7 and 5, how can I be sure? I mean, even if a man feels in control, sometimes a few things can fly under the radar and start to build a messy situation.

  75. So, let me get this straight – the girl you’re seeing wants to take the relationship to the next level and become monogamous and you view that as something you did wrong because she’s going to move on if you don’t commit? And what does that have to do with cheating? Yes, she should “next” you. And the reasons have nothing to do with what you laid out above.

    1. Exactly. A girl who is “OK” isn’t going to tolerate a LTR with a tomcat. Sheesh!

      1. Exactly. #6 isn’t good advice in the real world if you want a serious GF or wife. The only type of woman that will put up with that isn’t the type of woman that’s going to be a good complimentary person to yourself.

  76. … Most men are beta because we are products of schools, religions and tv.
    I am almost 50 and had catholic parents – strike 4 before you start. Getting p is easy; keeping it is much much harder.

    1. Or because humans are natural polygynous meaning most men can’t be Alpha by definition.

      1. We all post our own experiences and extrapolate them to others.

  77. #6 is just dumb. Go cheating on her to keep her from cheating on her? Not only is that not logical, it’s shitty. What’s good for the Gander….

    1. What’s good for the goose, actually.

    2. Yeah, you’ve got to have integrity and honor and the end of the day. I think that’s important to being a man. You are no better that her is she cheats. Lying and being untrustworthy are not traits I want as a man. You’ll get some heat for this comment, but that would be by people who follow narratives over integrity.
      Standing up for what is right might cause you some headache either on a comment board or in a relationship. Such a radical fucking idea it’s possible for both people not to cheat and continue a relatonship LOL

    1. That’s an argument I often bring up. But I think what the majority of men who have “woken up” believe is that there are four options:
      1. Pump n dump
      2. Be yourself (and prepare to be a cuckhold).
      3. Run game constantly (where you and I are kind of like “isn’t someone else in control here?”)
      4. Be a hermit
      The quality of woman determines which choice you make, perhaps. For me, I can run game, with not necssarily my partner being in control, but maybe some force that drives the relationship mechanism. Still, I don’t the control is all with her.
      If she cheats on you, you better bet she will be controlling every bit of your soul for a certain time period. The dirty secret is you can also be cheated on even running game 24/7. So, hermit it is?

  78. #5, yeah. Girls talk to each other and size you up based on gifts. “If it’s sweatshirt, keep looking around. If it’s a bracelet or jewelry, work on keeping him” I’ve actually heard them saying that.

  79. Great that we’re getting back some articles on GF Training. #5 is spot on; they talk to their freinds and size you up based on the gifts they get. “If it’s just a sweatshirt then keep looking, if it’s jewelry, work on keeping him.” I’ve actually heard girls say that. Gifts are not looked at by women the way we look at them. They’re cards in their poker deck of female game.

  80. Good article. Long ago, I had a long term girlfriend that cheated me on me (Regularly) and the tell-tale signs were so obvious that I wish I could go back in time and slap some sense into my previous self.
    For a long time I dodged my masculine responsibilities with the argument of “I don’t need them, I want my woman to want me for who I am” and that of course, turned out miserably. Of course she cheated on me till eventually left my ass for another, I was financially, physically, spiritually and emotionally devastated… but this began the long, grueling process of recovery after which… I very gradually gained confidence, money and became physically fit (Still a long way to go though); female attention and more important, affection and adoration naturally followed.
    As soon as all of the trash fed to me my whole life by women, manginas and feminists about “Be yourself” was discarded, I was able to escape the trap that foolish mangina men so easily fall prey to; Never trust advice about women, from women.
    A woman does not know what she wants. Cheating/Exploiting men is part of her nature so capitulating to her abstract desires is a great way to overexert yourself as a man and destroy everything you have built as a process. You will be nothing more than a (For lack of a better (not so ULTRA overused) word) a cuck. There IS a game and it is ALWAYS played, your choice is to obey the rules and be a loser, or exploit the game as much as possible to derive maximum benefit with the least exposure/sacrifice. This is your quest as a man.
    Keep in mind, there is a third option which is “Fuck it” and just walking away. That works too… as long as you don’t fall into the trap of “It is my fault, I must do what she wants” or “I did it wrong”, you will be fine. Never believe their lies, never believe their bullshit.

  81. This brings to mind a conversation I had with a taxi driver in Jamaica. He was a fierce looking rasta guy who refused to let me ride in his cab even though i offered to pay and there was room (the maxi was full of Black girls from NYC). In the end i lost my shit with him, called him a motherfucker and threatened to beat his ass. I said fuck you to one of the girls who tried to intervene also. Later on the beach i ran into 3 of the girls and they treated me like a God. It transpires that the maxi driver is a local “Gangsta”, low life drug dealer and pimp who is despised by all. I fucked one that night!

  82. No woman belongs to anyone but herself. We do not need to be “kept in line”. I rather think it is the men here who need to be kept in line. Also, many women do NOT wish to be dominated, we wish to be treated as the human beings we are. Women are not for the use or pleasure of men. We are here to live OUR lives the way WE want to.

  83. Heres another, she is a slut. Its funny how many weak ass excuses there are for cheating.If you aren’t happy just leave, damn it isn’t that hard.

  84. I like taking some responsibility for self. But a hoe is a hoe and hoes gonna do what they do. If you’re in her mind tight she MIGHT not do bad things. But you also might have to check that bitch. Whose fault is it really? Hard to say…since she is a vessel. Like a car, that doesn’t care who drives it long as they have the key. But I don’t think forgiving her and taking the blame is anything short of white knight self destruction. Fuck that bitch blame her all the way, even if you do need to sharpen your game, don’t EVER tell her you’re the least bit to blame for HER SLUTTING. That’s when she will really think you are weak. Break up with her and just fuck her. No strings anymore. And get you a good side bitch or two like he said.

  85. Miserable, sorry lot of pathetic excuses for men. It’s sad that you buy into this gangsta-wannabe Alpha-male bullshit.
    Your girl/girlfriend/fiancee/woman/wife/mistress cheats on you because you are too goddamn self-centered to worry about whether you are making her feel happy and wanted. Genuinely happy people don’t get addicted to drugs. They don’t need to look elsewhere to feel good. Same thing here. If you’re giving her what she wants in order to be loved (whatever that may require), there isn’t a problem.
    And if you haven’t learned how to communicate with women yet, you’re stupid. Everything she says is a more-or-less subtle hint as to what she is thinking, how she is feeling, what she is desiring.
    But hey, keep agreeing with this dumbfuck that wrote this article, wishing he was the next Jay-Z, and you can also keep wondering why girls cheat on you.
    The reason couldn’t be YOU, now, could it?? NOOO. You’re not too busy trying to be “cool” and “manly” and acting like you are the shit to everyone else outside the relationship, are you? I didn’t think so.
    Ignorant douchebags.

    1. At my age (49) I’m too old for that shit!! I love my checking account and I love my toys more than my dates.. My pickup is paid off my electra glide is paid off and I live high on the hog…

  86. The main thing I took from this article – don’t be spineless. Hold her accountable when necessary and don’t cave into unjustified drama (aka shit tests).

  87. Tried that out and nearly destroyed my relationship! I’m being honest and natural to my girlfriend now…and surprise she loves it! All these tips will not help you keep a woman! What will help you is – get a grip and talk to her – ask her how she sees things – just like a real honorable man and not listen to stupid articles that are filled up with complexes and low self esteem!

  88. And by the way…’AWALT’ – what kind of a closed-minded word is that? Actually I never was truly myself with my girlfriend. My girl felt that and that is basically what broke my neck…I tried to ‘dominate’ her and she thought I’ve gone mad! All that made me uninteresting for sex. The only thing that is right in this article is that women spot immediately manipulation from a man. Wasn’t that a thing you guys hate in women? Why not instead be a so called real man? Having the balls to stand up for myself and being finally my true self was the best thing ever, even when that showed weakness. Masculinity is not about being ‘hard’ or somehow forcing your rules on the woman you love, it’s about being real and opening your heart to the one who is always there for you. What I get now is respect and the best sex life I’ve ever had.
    Women try to react to what you do…sometimes not in a perfect way…but so are you. They see you acting out your silly rules…and they keep the game going because they love you and don’t want to demolish your self respect.There is much more going on than you want to see. Try to see women again in a much more beautiful and pure way again without pitiing yourselve…and you will see astonishing results.
    It’s actually pretty simple.

  89. I admire PUAs, but I could never be one. All this work, and for what? A few minutes of sticky friction? Not worth it.

  90. Man If i had to work that hard to keep a girl from cheating I’d rather just not in be a relationship with her. What kind of sluts are you guys dating? Strippers?

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