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5 Things You Should Be Doing If You Consume Porn

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Several months ago, Roosh outlined the debilitating effects of readily accessible porn on men. Whilst I agree with basically all of what he said, it’s safe to assume even some regular ROK readers are still feeding semi-rampant porn-related addictions. In addition to the literally hundreds of hours every few years men waste by indulging in porn, the damage to your underlying psychology is immense and in many cases neurological.

Asking non-ROK readers in particular to go cold turkey on porn, however, would appear to be a Herculean task for most. As our community grows and our ideology is disseminated further afield, more men may find it easier to leave the world of online and other smut because their social environment reinforces our ideals. Until that time, we need a framework men can meet more easily.

A useful starting point, therefore, is to compare porn with behaviors a man should be engaging in. If you’re finding kicking the porn habit especially taxing but have the rest of your shit together, the prospects of gradual improvement are much more real.

When you find yourself watching porn and not doing these things, don’t whinge or become defensive. Just commit to change.

1. Going to the gym three to four times per week

A yearly holiday to Europe, serious sickness, or some professional or familial crisis are amongst the few genuine reasons that should prevent you from doing this. If you’re beating off three times a week to porn, that’s more than enough time to go to the gym. Those wanting to argue about this might be better off reading the male version of Cosmopolitan and forging a new career as a professional victim.

Because you’re going to the gym regularly, your BMI should almost always be somewhere between 20 and 25, or above 25 if you’re naturally muscular and still healthy. BMI has received significantly bad press over the years for being arbitrary and not accommodating different body frames. Whatever. You still know, if you have the balls to admit it, whether your weight and shape is unhealthy; BMI measurements are just a rule of thumb to help you apply common sense.

2. Getting girls to send you intimate or nude pics

Yes, bedding a good-looking girl is preferable to getting her pictures. But her sending you those pictures is a whole lot more preferable to wanking over some amateur cam girl you will never meet. If you want the gratification of seeing sexual images or videos of a girl, how about refining and then using the skills that encourage a woman to share them with you?

Texting and game involving related technologies have become indispensable in the modern world. Not only does your life persistently take you away from girls you’re chasing, the same phone she uses to text, call, and instant message you is just as useful for responding to the literally thousands of local men at her fingertips across Facebook, Skype, Instagram, Tinder, and other platforms.

3. Traveling long-haul in your own country and internationally

Broaden your horizons instead of expanding your internet browsing history. Part of the appeal of porn is that it enables men to “find” and ogle different girls. Why not do that at a bar in Bordeaux or a club in Prague? And “ogle” them there for a millisecond before you approach. You could even take an outdoors trip to Maine from California and find someone new to strike up a conversation with, flirt with, and then hopefully bed.

Traveling exposes you to new people, situations, and demands, plus enhances your cultural and social finesse. It is also an unmatched way to rejuvenate yourself in the face of the otherwise depressing reality of a retrograde national and international political climate. Porn is the same old shit you did when you were twelve or thirteen. You’re a man now, so how about cultivating the sort of varied experiences that come with adulthood and self-determination?

4. Learning a new skill (or five) every year

How’s that promise you made five years ago to become fluent in French? Or learn to code? Yeah, I thought so. Half an hour times 50 adds up to 1500 minutes. In the space of six months, roughly 180 days, it’s a gross underestimate that the average man will spend about about 1500 minutes looking for porn, watching it, and masturbating.

There are 1440 minutes in a day, so that 1500 minutes is over 24 hours that could be better spent developing a skill to use in the job market or one to simply make yourself a better man.

When you add that conservative figure to all the other areas where you waste time (mindless Facebook use, watching pointless sitcoms or zoning out with televised sports etc.), you have a veritable goldmine of personal development opportunities being squandered.

5. Going out

Travel may be the most exciting way to leave your house but most people never have the luxury to do it more than 10% of the time. Pornhub or Redtube steal chances to socialize, develop your game, and just be yourself and happy. If you can imagine yourself ejaculating over an online video or DVD and think that’s better than spending time with friends over a round of beer, please vacate my planet.

Your ability to go out may depend on a range of factors, from friends’ availability to work and familial commitments, yet you have profound influence over what you can and can’t do. You can find new friends, make time and date compromises with your friends, or explore a place that’s closer for everyone. For every time someone watches porn, they should be going out at least fifteen times with others.

Move from reading to acting

Neither I nor my fellow columnists, nor others reading this, can check up on how you spend the short life allotted to you. What I will counsel, though, is that you ask yourself ten times a day, “Am I reading or acting?” The “reading” may be figurative. Perhaps you’re observing life, rather than having others observe you in your prime. Porn is a classic case of observation at the expense of channeling your masculine energies.

Notice that I haven’t included some other obvious things you should be doing instead of watching porn, like bedding women. This list is deliberately designed to be easy, despite so many, many men (did I say many men?) failing to ever do the bare minimum consistently.

It’s time to kick your porn habit so you can kick goals in real life.

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367 thoughts on “5 Things You Should Be Doing If You Consume Porn”

  1. The steps outlined above are excellent substitutes for porn.Heck it is even my New Year Resolution.Less porn.More travelling, gymming and knowledge acquisition.

  2. This article is bollocks. It is not a choice between watching porn and doing these five things. You can watch porn and do this stuff and more. Hell some of this stuff I don’t even care about. Girls send me intimate pics all the time. I never ask for them and frankly I don’t care. Just bring yourself over and we’ll re-enact some porn scenes.
    Frankly, I think porn has some real benefits. Generally the approach is very masculine and the men tend to be very dominating, whereas the women will submit completely to the men. Watching porn has changed me from “making love” to fucking the shit out of a girl, making her get on her knees and fucking her face. They love it.
    You totally disrepect a woman this way she will respect you more. Why? Because you are a dominant male. Act like it and stop worrying about “ooh am I watching too much porn? Will I go blind? Will I not be able to connect to a real woman?” Stop acting like a little bitch, grab some popcorn, sit back and watch the porn. Then call your girl to come over so you can show her what you’ve learned.

    1. Absolutely right. Real men do what they want and never place themselves under someone else’s petty rules and control, such as: “For every time someone watches porn, they should be going out fifteen times with others.”

      1. Not drinking 3 fifths of vodka a day seems like a restriction at first, then you discover that your liver agrees.

        1. Watching porn to the point of incapacitation or injury would be the equivalent.
          No-one’s advocating that.

        6. You ever late for work due to all-night porn surfing? You ever had to take out a payday loan to pay for strip club spending? Then you’re not an addict.

      1. Precisely because a heterosexual man isn’t sexually interested in another man’s ass. The sexual object of interest is the woman, not the man.
        It’s like going to a football game. Sure, the referee is on the field, running around doing stuff, but most people aren’t there to watch him.

        1. All well and good until everyone at the football party realizes all the refs are wearing assless chaps.
          The eye cannot unsee.

        1. Watching other guys screw the woman that’s making you hot seems like a cuckhold fetish at best.

      3. have you done amateur wrestling and submission grappling?
        Now that isn’t even watching; that’s actually participating. It gets physical.
        it involves wrestling and rolling with another sweaty man and sometimes in awkward position.

        1. Are you suggesting that you participated in grappling sports (with men) for sexual gratification?

        2. No, it seems like you were afraid of being labeled as “gay” this “gay” that… you were trying to insinuate looking at porn as if you should be concerned with looking at another man’s ass. Since you are fixated on another man’s ass and you are so touchy on gayness, perhaps I drew parallel conclusion that you might be extra sensitive to sports like grappling.
          I will put it in lay man’s term. Since you are one dimensional dense headed, I will say this…
          The fact that you think porn is gay is in your head. I don’t know what made you think that; but perhaps you have secret gay fetish?
          Looking at another man’s ass? because You wanted to, that’s why.
          How does that relate to grappling?
          Well, in grappling you have to wrestle with another man who is covered with sweat and adrenaline.
          I been in near death situation by wrestling another crazed inmate. I used to work at a prison as correction officer so I know what death and near death situation is. Some inmates are crazy as fuck and very strong.
          Am I thinking at that point, “I wonder what his ass is like?” I wonder why his ass is big?” No, I’m thinking how da fuck am I going to manhandle the crazy inmate fuck while at the same time be alive.
          You are thinking of gay this gay that because in your head, you are looking at another man’s ass…
          When I look at porn, I concentrate on the women.

        4. Look at your original post, you were the one who brought up the post about another man’s ass you faggot!

        6. Seems like you have reading comprehension problem. Look at what you wrote in the beginning.

        7. Yeah, I know what I wrote and it wasn’t in support of whacking off in front of digital images of men.

        8. Fucking brilliant brother! Crude but brilliant.
          I too have wrestled with men and the thing that occurs to me is how disgusting they smell and how gross being covered in someone else’s sweat is. Now women and homos on the other hand, love that shit.

      4. “Watching another man’s ass isn’t gay precisely how?”
        This is what you wrote you fucking faggot bitch!.

        1. You don’t seem to understand that this was phrased in the form of a question. Your reading comprehension seems to be what’s in doubt.

      5. You can always fast forward through those bits. Well-made porn with proper cinematography rarely has many shots like that.

        1. he’s the most talented blogger on the manosphere, and a prophet for our times. i cannot recommend his blog enough. i envy you because now you’ll be able to go through his old stuff for the first time.

    4. Stop acting like a little bitch, grab some popcorn, sit back and watch the porn. Then call your girl to come over so you can show her what you’ve learned.

      Great point. If you’re going to watch porn, at least own it and use it to your advantage whenever possible (i.e. never watch it alone). I can’t count the number of times I’ve had ‘private screenings’ with women I eventually became long-term fuck buddies with. This is great advice Englishbob.

    5. What I don’t understand is how PUAs can talk bad about porn, but also encourage you to be “outcome independent.” Doesn’t porn give you outcome independence? If a girl rejects you, you can always count on a release.
      If you abstain from porn/masturbation, however, then your only release is from girls reciprocating, hence you’re outcome dependent.

      1. That means you have an addiction if you consider watching other people having sex “normal”

        1. There was a female sex writer for Details (back when the mag was good) who wrote “If you visit a prostitute, go to a strip club, see an porn flick in a theater, and masturbate to Internet porn in one night and feel horrible about it, you’re a sex addict. But if you do all that and feel great, you’re just really horny.”

      2. You are mixing up MGTOWs with PUAs. PUAs are competing for your attention to seek out women.

    6. Agreed, I gave up porn for a while after reading some anti-porn stuff. I recommend it, it’s good to have willpower to abstain, like giving up drinking or anything you enjoy a lot. Lent is a good time to do this. But then I have come around to the position of when I feel like doing it, I will. It’s just like anything else, the key is moderation. Don’t do it every day.
      Also, looking back, several weeks into withdrawal, I was thinking about sex literally every minute. Every female I saw, no matter her age, I was imagining her sexually. I don’t think that’s a healthy way to be, and it makes you driven by your desire for women, when men have a great tool to relieve the power women’s poon has over us–a hand. Besides porn is ubiquitous and free, in a few minutes you have relief and can focus on more important things.

      3. That’s the Something About Mary approach. If you have already been relieved, you feel less pressed. And paradoxically, more poon will come your way.

        3. This is correct.
          Also, wasn’t there a “pump” article on ROK a while back? How is one expected to “use it”, on a regular basis and to its “full effect” otherwise?
          I recall seeing the sub-headline “Permanent Growth, Guaranteed”

      4. Thinking about sex 24/7 is normal. When men didn’t have HD porn for 200k years, how do you think they felt? The male sex drive ensures the survival of life on this rock.

        1. Actually, our tribal ancestors thought of food all the time. It was the primary thing on their minds, and for good reason. Sex was something they did, and tribal cultures today still do, pretty much whenever they feel like it. It makes up for being hungry.
          In contrast, we think about sex all the time and eat to make up for sexual frustration.
          Now which lifestyle seems better?

        2. For many, not watching porn actually makes people less horny and controlled by sexual desires.

        4. False. Hunter-gatherers got all their food in approximately 17-21 hours a week. There life spans were shorter and had other needs, but they definitely did not spend all their time on the hunt for grub.

        6. Correct, it was actually early agriculturalists that had to think about food all day.

        7. @BlindIo
          You said, “It makes up for being hungry”, BUT people living in the age of “hunters-gatherers” WERE NOT HUNGRY. They simply moved where food was abundant and did not need to “work” more than 20 hour a week, to get thier food. That is, UNTIL, populations grew too large for the environment and they had to switch agricultural societies, so as to feed everyone.
          Sex most certainly was on their minds more often.

        8. In the time of Hunter Gatherers, men were not slaves to women, despite wanting to have sex all the time. The power dynamic was NOTHING like it is today, in any way, shape or form.
          Perhaps today that is somewhat true, but most definitely not then.

      6. Every female I saw, no matter her age, I was imagining her sexually.
        Any woman I see that looks 20-40 years old to me, I imagine sexually. I rarely watch porn.

      7. I must be dead inside or something. I have never been a consumer of porn. Sure I’ve seen some porn but I never go out of my way for it. It’s usually a friend sending some freaky gif for the lolz.

      1. That means a lot coming from the man with balls so big he needs planning permission everytime he sits down. I salute you sir!

    10. Not to come off as a jack ass, but you should have read this a wee bit more carefully. Its title gives it away.
      “5 Things You Should Be Doing If You Consume Porn” notice that he did not say instead of porn. It was as well as porn.
      A lot of guys over satisfy themselves and stop doing real world things. As a matter of fact, porn increases the chances of you not being able to have sex with a woman. http://www.menshealth.com/sex-women/porn-erectile-dysfunction

      1. Fair point, but this article is in the spirit of puritan thou shalt not observe porn articles that periodically appear on this site. And why single out porn? Why not watching TV, playing video games, picking your nose or whatever? There is nothing special about porn in this regard. It is a simple and harmless pastime when a man needs to let off some steam. But some people seem to have a real bug in their ear about it.
        I have been looking at porn for 30 years. I get plenty of women. Don’t worry about what Mens Health said.

        2. Why single it out. Because it can sexually desensitize you leaving you useless for real sex without a mega dose of Viagra. Other than that is just another thing that can become an obsession. And all obsessions leave you a lessor man. Look at the reaction here. Some guys when the subject is porn.” Methinks thou dost protest too much”

        6. Yeah I play video games as well. Somehow I’m fine. I’m looking forward to the thou shalt not pick your nose one. Or bite your finger nails or whatever.

        9. Use of words like “suggests”, “evidence” and “may” do not imply the certainty of “proof” or “fact”. The articles you have linked are speculative pieces based on anecdotal accounts from men suffering from ED. Its a bit like saying playing video games makes you violent. I can make that claim but can I prove it?

        11. The same way you explain a 2 pack a day smoker living to be 90. if 90% get soft dick, that mean 10% do not

        12. It is ether porn screws you up. Or guys who are going to get screwed up latter are far more attracted to porn than healthy men are. You do know you sound very defensive of your porn. It looks to be far too important to you for some reason.

        13. @Wes, you are mistaken, “doing it” is just like regular exercise, its ABSOLUTELY a use-it or lose-it situation. Here is a suggestion, write someone like Ron Jeremy a “fan letter” and ask for his response about how he kept his “performance level” up and going as he got older. I’d bet my house that “abstinence” won’t have any part in his response.
          Did you forget that there was also a “pump” article on ROK a while back. How is one
          expected to “use” such a device, on a regular basis and to its “full effect” otherwise?
          I recall seeing the sub-headline “Permanent Growth, Guaranteed”. Will this device work if you abstain and instead only wait for physical contact?

        14. It seems to me that porn is more important to you and these other guys than me. It is the Great Satan that these guys invoke to explain why they’re not getting laid. If you’re not getting laid, its down to you. Not porn, not video games and not watching TV.

        15. Yes but actuarial data is very accurate when predicting your life expectaincy based on your habits. You have no data showing that viewing porn causes ED.

        18. Ok guy you are really defensive. And you spend far to much time on a computer. When your not masturbating to internet porn its you and world of Warcraft

        19. Yes and its the same with the percentage of men who lose the ability to have sex unaided with drugs. Enjoy your computer love life

        22. @Wes,
          Care to elaborate on which study you are referring to and what it specifically focuses on, such as, long term growth, short term growth increased hang-time, lining damage, bruising, etc?
          There a PLENTY of competing studies on all these topics saying otherwise. Although I did not specifically mention it in my previous comments, the studies that I’m referring to prove an increase in “hang-time” from “specific use”.
          Also the Psychology Today article focuses on people that have a problem with wanting FANTASY that does not match up with REALITY. These men do NOT have real ED. ITS IN THEIR HEADS
          Did you even read the comments on Psychology Today article?

        24. I posted more than one. Tell you what. You show one study that that contradicts what I’ve already put up and I’ll honor your request. But its not hard to do ever heard of Google? The only reason you have not read more than one study that looks into pornography caused impotence, is because you would rather not look into it. enjoy your porn life.

        25. As to that bull shit that heavy masturbation helps you last longer. seriously dude you only have sex with a woman once in the night? without viagra it only takes about 10 minutes to recharge the batteries if your normal. but if you’re spent from masturbating I was not surprised to hear that 1 2 3 4 times a night isn’t something you do

        26. I was a little harsh. While there are more than a few studies that show a strong correlation between heavy porn use and impudence and an improvement in sex when porn is reduced. There is one study with less than 300 men and its self reported like an internet poll. It reportedly shows no correlation. but wow that is one week study

        27. @Wes, actually my information comes from having worked peripherally in the industry (promotions and marketing). I am not going to go into details about the how, what, why, when, but be assured there are PLENTY of tricks that have been used by the industry to “keep it up” on camera (hence, my earlier Ron Jeremy comment). The bigger outfits actually paid medical researchers to put together “white papers” on processes and best practices for internal use, the same way Pro Sports teams do for their athletes (note these studies are OWNED by the companies that commissioned them and will NEVER be available to the public).
          The term you need to start searching for is “noninvasive”. That should cover the gamut of “real studies” that focused on the PHYSICAL aspects and not the MENTAL limitations of men claiming to have had ED.
          So, if you don’t know “what” these tricks are and are not currently in the “know” about the private sector research going on, that’s not my problem.
          Also, the men claiming to have ED in the Psychology Today article are just like schlubs who watch a NBA game and then during a pick-up game, try to jump from the free-throw line and dunk, instead of trying to emulate NBA player displaying attainable skills, like shooting better 3-pointers, jump shots, etc. These guys are basically building preference for women with a level of looks and performance that they will NEVER have access to. What they need to start doing instead is view virtual women that look and perform like the type of women they can get in REAL LIFE. These guys essentially raised their standards without doing ANY of the work needed to pull similar women in real life, so of course they are bored with their accessible, fat and ugly, wives/girlfriends. BTW, did ANY of them try to get into better physical shape (cardio, weights, diet change, etc), in order to see if that would help FIRST? The article does not address this, but I’d bet my house that they did not.
          Quick note, its not about just “watching” and “using”, there are ACTUAL exercises that must be done while viewing (and yes, being fit is obviously number 1). HOWEVER, with that said, I’m certainly not going to be the one to teach ALL the readers on ROK on how its done either.

      2. It’s true. Internet porn in particular can be terribly addictive. I for one have been totally consumed by online porn for decades now. I more or less retired when I was 29 and have had my days to myself ever since and back then I was making myself cum 10-12 times a day. Now I’m in my 40s I manage a squirt in the morning and one at bedtime. Kind of scary when I look back on it.

        1. In eastern traditions, Cumming depletes your stored life energy , qi/ chakra. Best to only ejaculate when procreating or u can’t simply control it. It is not too hard to engage In sexual activity without ejaculating. Just slow down when u know u are Gonna cum or press ur prostate or take a deep breath and suck it in before u climax. Even if u engage in sex without cumming, some energy is being lost but less. Sex in moderation ain’t bad. U can always practice meditation or breathing practices like prana Yama or Qigong. it can help to manage desires.

        3. Oh I’m not complaining. I loved cumming 10-12 times a day. Never mind that is obviously unhealthy. Compared to any drug addiction, porn is a bargain!

    11. “Frankly, I think porn has some real benefits. Generally the approach is very masculine and the men tend to be very dominating, whereas the women will submit completely to the men.”
      Watching another Man conquer a woman, while Masturbating in Cuckoldry to his Victory, is the farthest thing From Masculine. Losers watch Porn, Losers Masturbate to the Sexual Conquests of Other Men.

        1. To enjoy a woman in the Flesh, is not the Same, as watching a Man and woman have sex. Sports and Music a Man needn’t be an Athlete or Musician to enjoy, but every Man enjoys the Body of a Real woman, no amount of artificial entertainment with Pornography can substitute it.

        3. Why do you capitalize certain words? For emphasis of ideas or something? I never said that porn should supplant women, though. In fact, the two can enhance one another.

        5. If a Man wants porn, it’s a free country so he can have it, it’s just very Defeating to masturbate in front of a computer screen instead of experiencing the Real thing. Enjoy.

    12. Agreed, just don’t spend too much time on porn and it’s all good

    13. hahaha amen they love to be treated like filthy little animals, and are closer to you at the end for making themselves so vulnerable to you. I’ve made the mistake before of thinking I’d be disrespectful to them if I didnt treat them like a piece of meat, they’ll bore of you if you do this.

    14. and moreover, in porn, women are feminine, sexy and willing to please men… and outside porn.. : female narcissism, feminism, you go grrrlism, fat acceptance, beauty at any size, beta orbiters, cockblocking, flaking, friendzoning, LMR, bitchshield, and all that shit.
      Men should surely watch less porn, but women should watch more porn… and learn from it !!

    15. I tend to agree with you for the most part bob. I don’t do the porn thing but only because it doesn’t rock my socks. I always wind up thinking silly things. I’d prefer just to have a good old fashioned Jo with memories of past conquests of thoughts of future ones
      I will note, however, that some people have an addictive personality and wind up hooked on porn and for those people this may be sound advice.
      Like booze, I’m sure porn won’t hurt you in moderation but if you feel you are becoming dependent on it you need to just stop

      1. The rationale of the article is a little bizarre I think. Everybody has their own thing and many things can become a problem if performed to excess. The thing is, only a small percentage of people ever become hooked on anything and this to me reflects their personality, not the thing itself.

    16. “It is not a choice between watching porn and doing these five things.”
      Of course not, retard, that’s why he says “5 things you should be doing if you consume porn”
      The name of the article itself already imply that they aren’t mutually exclusive.
      Dumbass.

    17. For me, porn is a sign of weakness and passivity – more feminine than masculine virtues. Instead of fucking bitches yourself and acting, you observe them being fucked by another man -> you’re basically on the receiving end.
      There are also cases that I’ve heard of in which men have a porn addiction that has them watching hours of porn a day. No matter what you say even two hours every day watching porn could make a huge difference in your life doing something else.
      I associate masculinity with action and strength, and femininity with passivity -> observing and consuming (as opposed to creating) are passive behaviours.
      Though several of your points are valid and admire your brash attitude with regards to watching porn – you are free to think what you think.

      1. Everyone deserves some downtime man.
        You realise that the type of porn we’re talking about is more frequently watched by men rather than by women? Feminine?

        1. You raise a good point, and a dilemma I have – downtime.
          It seems to me as if I should be spending every minute I have on achieving my goals, as our time here is limited and the sand is trickling down the hourglass – but then am I really enjoying life then?
          There was a point last week where I didn’t even see any point in maintaining social connections as they wouldn’t achieve my goals ( as a side note I still wasn’t fully productive – there always slipped in an hour reading the news on one day, doing something stupid not in my schedule the next day).
          But I believe currently that some time to just chill, maybe watch a movie,flirt around with chicks, socialize with friends – in short, relax, should be had.
          Achieving your goals is important, but it’s even more important that you enjoy every step of the way.
          It’s something I need to devote more thought to, but time to reflect is something that the 21st century did not bring us.

        2. Like they say. All work no play makes Jack a dull boy.
          We work hard so that we have leisure time.

    19. I was just thinking that.
      It’s not the “go out and do other stuff” that bothers me, it’s the “other stuff to do”.
      Travel? Languages we will never use again? Learning things for the sake of learning? Nudes around on social media?
      The article is telling us to give up looking at women on the internet and become women.

  3. Travel is overrated and often tiresome, especially after a certain age. It’s often not worth the expense after dealing with airport security, local and international SJWs, murderous Muslims, and the fact the globalism is increasingly making every place on the planet too similar to bother. Nowadays the Internet can give you a good bit of travel’s increasingly few benefits

    1. i’m over 40 and really only interested in going back to places where i travelled as a younger man to see friends and enjoy memories. i’ll also go anywhere that’s got great beaches.

      1. You should go to Uruguay- brilliant, pristine mile after mile of white beaches that you have more or less to yourself. The locals are extremely friendly and hospitable too. Very reasonable to live and excellent healthcare system.

        1. Sounds very nice. Wonder if you can surf there. Surfing is one reason I’ve been thinking of Central America when I finally get out of the US for good.

        2. had a spanish teacher from there…sounds like a great country…might be worth a look before a hipsters and douchebags ruin it.

        3. Southern half of South America will be a bulwark against the coming Dark Age.

        4. Around the Punta Del Este coastline (south Atlantic) it’s a good spot to surf (I don’t surf myself, but, from visiting there I know this). The city itself has everything you want in terms of “modern living” which is fine, but, once you go further along the coast or inland you have the place more of less to yourself. The interior is sleepy in a real pleasant old world kind of way.
          It’s a country where the masses from the 1st world have still largely ignored because it’s relativity small size and because there’s no big attractions to draw them there. The people are one of its biggest assets- friendly, relaxed and well educated, a country, I’m giving a bit of thought about retiring to some day.

        6. It’s a region of the world that still has an abundance of vast open terrain that’s very sparsely populated. There are areas of southern Chile for example that are very similar to Alaska, except the conditions are not so harsh or extreme. I’ve met some Europeans, mostly Swiss and French couples who moved out there and raised families in these remote areas. They live mostly from agriculture as well as forestry projects, some have branched into tourism (B&B) or niche fishing expeditions for experienced anglers along the numerous rivers and lakes in the region.
          The expats who settle down there would not be your typical “fun and sun” types and they would be quite protective about having it remain selective in who it attracts.

        7. Tell the hipsters on your return that skinny jeans and tank tops are prohibited from wearing under its constitution. This should see them off!

        9. I’ve heard it’s beautiful, but they recently legalized and are promoting homosexuality. It’s now like the Mecca for queer vacations and shit.

        10. Well, last time I was there was around 2010, and it was pretty low key kind of place back then, besides why be dictated by this? Besides no doubt they all go to their usual discos and straw bars in the big urban cities, this is as far as most gays generally travel on their vacations.

        11. What’s the alternative to “fun and sun”? Boredom and overcast? I’ll take the fun and sun any day.

        12. Yeah, that’s a good point. You don’t have to be exposed it if choose not to. Now that we’re talking about it, I’ve been to a few places in South America and a lot of gays are traveling around in those places and they do stay to themselves.

        13. Sorry to ruin it for you, but Uruguay is the SJW paradise in South America nowadays 🙂 And the security in the country has gone downhill, all thanks to the ex-terrorist Pepe Mujica!

        15. Yes, it’s possible. Yet you need to get a license for it and pass certain procedures before being allowed to get a gun. But just like in my country Peru and other countries in the region, it’s considered fairly easy to get a gun or other weapons in a no legal manner.
          And well, the thugs in Uruguay and South America are different, and I’d not dare to defend myself against a robbery or assault if my life was not at risk. Why? Because they are not afraid to kill you even if you only punch or push them away. And if you dare to hit them and somehow manage to escape alive, they will go after you and likely kill you.
          It’s the situation in most of South America nowadays. It was not that bad in the past, but since we got these incompetent, evil and stupid leftist leader, all has gone downhill. Just to give you an example of my country Peru:
          Fujimori (1990-2000) defeated Maoist communism and sent almost all of them to jail with a lifetime sentence. After almost 2 decades of terror, blood and death, Peru got peace and progress, because this President Fujimori destroyed the Socialist system that existed before him, along with the defeat of terrorism and the implementation of prosperous economics policies. Thanks to him we were the leading country in the region for quite a lot of time…
          The problem is that after him two presidents decide to cut the sentences of a lot of terrorists from lifetime to 20-30 years. Guess what? Most of the ideologists and top-leaders of Shinning Path, the Maoist terrorist organization that killed over 100k Peruvians cowardly, are now free 🙂 Isn’t that so awesome? Now they are re-uniting their forces again in an alliance with drug lords, and now we got a bomb that’s just waiting a little bit to explode.
          But the real problems in security in Peru got intensified with our pussy-whipped socialist President Humala – this guy is only a little less stupid than Trudeau. Thanks to his inept and degrading government, we are considered one of the most dangerous countries in the region and the world. It’s not strange to turn on the TV in the morning and see that the most important news has to do with a thug who has killed several innocent people just to steal their belongings.
          I’ve extended waaaaay too much, but just to make a point and show how Socialism can destroy countries. Of course, in comparison to Venezuela we are in Heaven 🙂 those guys now have to eat dogs, cats and pigeons to survive, because they don’t even have meat available.
          And just to let you know that having your gun in Peru, Uruguay or any other country in South America may not be a pretty good idea, because trying to fight with those thugs if your life is not at risk, may be the last thing you could ever do in your life. And I speak to you from experience, because I’ve been assaulted two times, one of them having three guys pointing a gun to my head, my father’s head and my mom screaming and trying to pull her purse back when the thug was trying to steal it. If it wasn’t for me, that told her to shut up and give the purse, I’d be now visiting her in the cemetery.

    2. Ditto. I think the manosphere places too much importance on language learning as well. There are plenty of hipsters who travel and know different languages. I wouldn’t exactly call them “men.”

      1. i have to disagree on the language learning. knowledge of foreign languages, both modern and ancient, is essential to true intellectual development. back in the days of the bad old patriarchy, any educated man in the west knew french and latin at a minimum. nowadays we have professors who only know their native langauge, and it’s fine as long as they parrot the marxist-feminist party line.

        2. IIRC, the pope also does not speak english. wouldn’t be surprised if the italian prime minister (is it renzi? i can’t remember) doesn’t speak english either. italians are pretty terrible at english for the most part. it’s one thing i loved about italy.

        3. The Pope probably speaks 3 languages.
          Rajoy, the PRIME MINISTER of Spain, is NOT an intellectual, and, typical of arrogant leaders elected on a populist wave, lacks the erudition of more-educated, moderate politicians.

      2. There are lots of guys who lift weights, eat right and have amazing bodies who aren’t “men”.
        There are guys who start business/es from scratch and make lots and lots of cash, who have all the resources they will ever need and everything money can buy who you couldn’t call “men”.
        There are guys who only ever pick up chicks and sleep with hundreds of them who you couldn’t call “men”.
        A “man” is one who combines ALL these things to carve himself out a life that he wants. Just because “hipsters” partake in a particular behaviour, doesn’t mean that behaviour or skill isn’t “manly”.

        1. i haven’t actually met many hipster types who know any foreign languages. learning another language requires hard work and discipline, which is rarely their strong suit.
          on the rare occasions that i openly express my right-wing, traditional views around their ilk, SJWs often express shock that a highly educated man (i’m well travelled, well read, and i know several modern and ancient languages) is not with the SJW program. they assume their feminist/liberal arts university educations are comparable to mine and can’t grasp that it’s precisely the things i’ve learned in my travels and studies that have pushed me to tradition and to the right.

        2. It’s good to confound peoples’ stereotypes of how an educated person is supposedly meant to behave these days. It demonstrates clearly how superficial the average college gradate’s level of education is when they’re confounded and often offended by the genuine and stubborn fact that they’re other people who’ve a similar education, but, who’ve managed to differentiate the wood from the trees.

        3. To most of the world, english is a foreign language. You just happen to live in a country where you all speak Common.

        5. The point being that most non-english westerners speak english. The only ones who regularly don’t know a foreign language are english speakers.

        7. @bucky
          Then you must not know any “rich” hipsters that went to 1st tier/Ivy league colleges. All the ones I tend encounter, AT MINIMUM, know Spanish, which they learned to a pretty functional level in high school (so as to get accepted into 1st tier/Ivy universities). The REALLY academic ones usually know a second language which they learned in college, so as to participate in research, under a professors grant, that required them to have the ability to skim the related source material in its native language.
          Note, most poor kids in 1st Tier/Ivy Universities don’t typically have access to this trajectory while in college because it requires LOTS of free time and almost always interferes with part-time employment

        8. if most ivy leaguers know a foreign languages, that’s a good thing. i can potentially intellectually respect anyone who knows at least one foreign language, even if he’s a leftist. still, i’m surprised to hear that even the ivy league is still insisting on students learning languages. quite a while back (over ten years ago) i dated a girl who did her undergrad at cornell. i remember her saying that “i don’t do foreign languages.” it was one of the things that tipped me to the fact that she wasn’t quite the intellectual i assumed she was at first.

        9. Here’s the thing, momosgarage. Hipsters are like any other social group that centers around something: They’re too self-centered and intellectually lazy to achieve much. Any upper-tier college students you’ve met who were hipsters I’m sure were just following the clothing fad to fit in with something they didn’t know much about. And most hipsters are gay (They identify as bisexual, but no difference. A fag’s is a fag.) Homosexuality pretty much is an indicator of a worthless personality and intellect. Most who go to college go for “Art” or “Gender Studies” or other worthless shit that is just an excuse to blow off their parents money.

        10. Many hipsters, perhaps 1/2, I find “simulate” being “someone”. All power to you if you make craft bear, blended with acai in a transnational collaboration because you are doing something but much of these people pretend by aping the manner and style of the real deals. In psychological terms its called “status seeking”. Sub cultures are perhaps a way of avoiding the anonomie by our secularised metropolitan culture.

        11. that makes sense. although, i honestly admire any american who acquires a foreign language nowadays, hipster or not. there’s no way to fake the hard work and discipline necessary to learn another language, and those are increasingly rare qualities in our degenerate culture.

        12. @Joe, I still stand by my point, that you know few real hipsters, if any, at all. Many more of them than you can imagine come from wealthy families (also note, these “rich hipsters” have nearly cornered the medical & recreational marijuana production market using their parents money to buy up land in prime growing areas and buying out existing non-hipster producers). Its actually the poor ones that are wannabees, not the other way around.
          Here is way to spot them, one indicator is that rich hipsters typically wear dirty, smelly, jeans that cost more than your best suit. The trick is, can YOU identify a pair of $1000+ jeans? Most likely not.
          I also would not label then “hard & fast” as Homosexual or Bisexual. Once these people get older, they will move past the “sexual experimentation phase” in their lives and start acting like old heterosexuals (HONESTLY, who really wants to see a 40+ year old man naked anyway? Nobody, neither man nor woman). The contemporary versions of Homosexuality and Bisexuality are truly games for the young only. Before the early 2000’s, that game usually ended for most around age 25, but now that phase seems to drag and linger, too long, nearly into their early 40’s.
          EXCLUDING, of course, those that are TRULY Homosexual or Bisexual and always will be, regardless of age, wrinkles, baldness, gray hair, sagging, cellulite, etc.

      3. Obviously, traveling and learning languages won’t automatically make you a man. It’s what you do with the experience and knowledge.

      4. If you stopped doing something because other people were doing it, that makes you the hipster.

      5. The reason that learning other languages is important for a man is that language at its core is communication. To speak a language is to take some small part of that culture into yourself. Men of this site understand the importance of being good communicators to share thoughts and ideas, but it is also important to be well-versed in all of the aspects of culture as our grandfathers were.
        To learn French was to know the language of the enlightenment and the civilized world, the philosophy that built nations.
        To learn proper English was to know the language of wit and sarcasm, to master the arts of Shakespeare as well as the basis of a culture that had a truly global empire in the days before flight.
        To learn German was to know the Language of the barbarian man, as well as have a grasp of the conquering Saxon who brought Rome to its knees through strength of arm and tactics.
        To learn Latin was to know the Language of the sciences, to speak with men who put the world under magnifying lenses and discovered how things worked.
        To learn Greek was to know the language of the philosophers, the men who asked what it mean to be a man, to be alive, and to what could a man achieve?
        And as a side note, sometimes it is just plain rewarding in these days of painful noneducational youth to be able to refer to the woman across the bar giving you bedroom eyes as the most callous of terms for a prostitute, and have her think you mysterious and sexy because she can’t understand a word you are saying.

      6. I was thinking just the other day if I took the time I spent goofing off on the internet and applied it to a skill I could master that skill in 12 months…play the guitar, learn a language, etc.

        1. And it can be plain, simple Spanish. Most girls I’ve met and used it can’t tell the difference in what you’re speaking (unless they took it in college, and even at that. . .) Tell them it’s something spectacular like Italian. It definitely gets you in the ball park.

    4. Most of the travel people do, I totally agree. Flying around the world to sit in a hotel in a city that’s pretty much the same as the one you flew out of? No fucking thank you.
      Now, travel to see nature? That I’ll do. Yellowstone, yes please. NYC, not a fucking chance in hell. Cities have one thing going for them, a target rich environment. Everything else fucking sucks.

      1. Yup – I have to go to NYC all the time for work but never understood the fascination with it. From what I can tell all it has is 1) Lots of shopping, 2) broadway shows, 3) professional sports, and 4) expensive restaurants.
        1) Don’t do much of but can do it all online and really in any decent size city these days besides super luxurious brands no man should ever be buying 2) could care less 3) don’t care for any NYC team but plenty of other areas in the country/world with professional sports 4) good once in a great while or on someone elses dime however there are top flight restaurants in most decent size cities these days.

        1. You pretty much summed it up. If you don’t like to shop (and, honestly, what man does?), and you don’t like shows (ditto), the only thing left for you in a big city is drinking/drugs/girls. And yes, this can be a fucking blast, I’ve had a lot of fun fucking my way around lots of cities in my younger years. But, how long is that fun? A few years? If you’re lucky!
          I’m actually heading to one of the few cities I like later this week (Denver). But pretty much every city I “like” is only because it’s near some nice/remote/quiet/beautiful areas where I can GTFO and away from people. Without something like that (which very few cities have), I’m bored out of my fucking mind in 95% of the places I land for work. How many fancy meals can you eat before it gets boring? The first couple of times, perhaps even first couple of dozen; it’s cool. But, after that, it’s just a fucking hassle. Wait in line for everything and wind up with a meal you could have had at home for less money with no wait? Just to see the “beautiful people” and eat near them? And spend a lot of mental effort to ignore the guy pissing in the street and drug dealers in the background? Fuck that, I’ll be in the Tetons if you need me. 😉

    5. A lot of people who indulge in travel seem to forget that “Wherever you go, there you are”.
      I have done several once in a lifetime style trips and although they are fun to discuss and reminisce over, travelling is not even on my radar right now.

    6. That’s an excellent point you rise about traveling. I’d strongly, unlike the common advice of “seeing it when you’re young”, wait until your early 30s and go do proper traveling by yourself. Take off periods of 6 months or a year from your career if possible and just travel solo without others is best at this age. After a few weeks you’ll appreciate and guard your solitude and reticence like it’s your greatest treasure.

      1. Central & South America will prove themselves right in the future-women are kick ass, people are too busy making a living to bother drawing lines between eachother with politics, and they’d boot a Muslim’s ass out in a heartbeat since they’re Spanish blooded.

        1. Hispanics (at least the ones that I know) are passionate and emotional… they don’t really bottle up like whites do. I’m interested and curious to see how Hispanics deal with Muslim problems since both groups are vicious and violent (Think of Drug Cartel skinning rival gang members and decapitating to ISIS and Jama’at al-Tawhid wal-Jihad beheading captives while bound.
          There are similarities between hispanics and arabs (middle easterners in general)…. they are both savagely brutal and violent when they are backed with numbers… they are heavily TRIBAL and communal and collective. If they are minorities or at most heavily outnumbered and they are singled out, they are quick to play the “nice” guy and act soft.
          Their true natures are revealed when they become majority. This is really any race but signs are much most visible among (blacks, hispanics and arab muslims).
          I think if there was a race war between Middle Eastern groups and Hispanics, I think Hispanics would win. Hispanics (while they are cowards like middle eastern arabs, they still have savage warrior spirit due to their aztec, mayan and incan bloodlines).. … they will not hesitate to cut your throat like arabs BUT ALSO they will take all your entrails out, intestines and organs. Plus Hispanics work at Asian kitchen restaurants and eat pork and all kinds of shit that Asians eat. Middle Eastern Arabs are picky about their dietary habits and would rather die than eat pork. They have very limited cultural religious dogma and that is why they would lose to Hispanics (who have shitty culture but nonetheless a formidable culture that won’t back off)…
          Hispanics are killing blacks in california. Even hardened blacks don’t want to mess with local MS-13. If White people develop more of a killer mindset, then White people can win the race war… We are the only race who developed missiles and guns. Other race cannot develop that. We have the brain but we also have mercy towards our enemy like the SJWs. If White people went psycho, we can defeat all other non-white race COMBINED.
          The race war winning scenario would be like this…
          WHITE > Asian > Latin Hispanic > Arab > Black African. Although sometimes I think Arabs and Hispanics tie because even though I think Arabs are nothing but rag tag Muslim terrorist cowards, they also have brain sometimes unlike Hispanics.. … Hispanics are good workers but they lack logic… Asians have brain but they lack are robotic and instructional.
          Whites have CREATIVITY. Besides whites, no other race came up with much contribution towards modern world like whites did.
          WHITE PRIDE WORLD WIDE
          14/88
          SEIG HEIL
          HEIL HITLER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        2. Fuck ya loser. Spotty white bitchass nerd lol
          How latin and muslims work together – generally well. They succumb to us (just like anyone else does or will do) because they lack values and spirit. Which is true about all the rest too. We have the Tawheed to guide us, they bow to money, drugs and women. No wonder recent honor strikes on US territory were accompliced by latins – think about boston and san bernardino.
          ISLAM
          WILL
          DOMINATE
          THE
          WORLD!
          INSHAALAH RAHMANI RAHIM!

        3. Whites are the weakest race on the planet, you cant fight anybody like men, you get your ass kicked from muslims in europe, from blacks and hispanics in america. only place where you can feel safe is the internet

    8. You nailed it & fuck airports. Shop amazon and scope the nature in your own backyard…..and FYI NorCal is still the best kept secret in this country.

    9. Overrated? Travelling / expatriating is the ONLY way to leave Feminists, SJWs, Muslims etc. behind. Once you move to places such as South America for example, you totally forget about that crap that bothered you back home.
      -You get a lot more for your $ in emerging countries. I eat almost everyday in Restaurants although I’m not rich.
      -Most girls are super feminine outside of the Western world. Most girls have NO Tattoos, NO Piercings, NO Short hair, NO Red hair, NO Pyjama outfits NO Flipflops, the list goes on. Can you imagine that you don’t even need complex pua game to date an 8? Direct game is enough. Once you don’t have to focus on game too much you can invest your time in more imporant things like Entrepreneurship for example.
      -The future lies overseas in the emerging world – not in the west. There is great opportunity and money in the emerging world!
      -You can save taxes & money if you live abroad.
      -You can skip Winter if you switch the hemisphere. More sunlight means more Vitamin D which improves health.
      So after all these positive reasons I have pointed out, you still worry about the airport security? 😉

      1. How does a person set something like that up in South America? Just board a jet and wing it?

    10. I like long road trips in the USA and Mexico. I lived in south TX for 10 weeks on like $4800 and had a half-decent time. If I had spent $6000, I could have really partied.

        1. Good for you….I don’t particularly care for the ”traveling” bit myself(who does?) But it’s better than staying put….meet better women too.

    13. the internet gives white losers like yourself a meaning, u have no friends, no woman wants you so you have no choice but being a scared little faggot on the internet

    14. This just isn’t true. You’re doing it wrong. Book a one way ticket to Thailand with a backpack. You’ll meet codgy old men who are running away from the west, Russian girls, crazy Australians, funny Brits & the list could go on.
      The only person I’ve met in the last 5 years from the US that I’m really interested in being good friends with I found bumbling around Thailand.
      Sri Lanka and Russia also have their own rewards. I don’t know where or how you’re travelling but you’re doing it wrong.
      Edit: Saw someone mentioning hipsters. There are plenty of annoying ones of those out there you’ve gotta avoid / deal with.

  4. Anonymous sex, separated from love, courtship and marriage is extremely degrading for human beings. Pedophilia, incest and even bestiality are next.
    A man has as many masters as he has vices.

    1. Love is beta, when you fall in love with a woman, you lost mastery of your own feelings and got controlled by your love for her.
      “When a man loves a woman, she can do no wrong. If she’s play him for a fool, he’s the last one to know. Lovin’ eyes can never see…………………….”
      Shhheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiittttttt

      2. It is possible to love a woman but still recognize (and hopefully correct) poor behaviour on her part.

        2. Or a child. Love and respect her (if she deserves it), but recognize her limitations. You wouldn’t give your 5 year old child responsibility over your finances, but you still love them.

        4. “You wouldn’t give your 5 year old child responsibility over your finances, but you still love them.”
          You can love a 5 YO child but can you fuck her or even merely kiss her lips? If you’re advocating strictly platonic love then you do have a valid point but not if you’re alluding to the concept of “true love” as understood by women.

    2. If wait to be in love with a girl before sleeping with her, you might be waiting awhile.

    3. Incest bestiality already exists with the way some ladies sleep with their animals (mah babies!) and prefer sharing their bed with them. 😀 One small step from turning raunchy. I swear half of the crazy cat ladies are already there.

  5. Porn serves a purpose. To jack off to. Outside of that, it’s got low entertainment value.
    And before the NoFap crowd chime in – when you live in an especially ugly part of an ugly country, as I do, I’d rather just sate my urges like this, than lower my standards to the level required to get my dick wet. I don’t need the ego validation.
    In the meantime, all ongoing efforts devoted to the pursuit of sufficient material wealth to emigrate and live like a king in a better country.

    3. By all means, stay in your room and Masturbate, the more Men who stay in their rooms and Masturbate, the Less Competition.

      1. Reading comprehension problem? I said I live in an especially ugly part of an ugly country.

        1. You gotta get outta there man! You need to save up $300, pack a bag, go down to the Greyhound and GTFO!

  6. this begs the question, is jerking off to nude pics girls have let you take of them in the past preferable to jerking off to porn? if you’re in a long-distance LTR is jerking off to your current woman on webcam preferable?

  7. If you blast a super hot chick and film it and then you cuddle with her later and watch it, is that considered porn?

  8. Sorry, I didn’t have time to read the article. I was too busy watching Kayden Kross getting banged like a Salvation Army drum!

        1. You’ve got to be kidding me. And people wonder why women weren’t allowed into the armed services for so long.

        2. over 50 years old with nipple piercings? Sharīʿah law looks better and better everyday.

        4. Dude srsly? There was some hot 4some lesbo army orgy there not this shit.
          Grose

        5. Warning – small objects placed around areas such as breast nipples and vagina pose choking hazard

        6. come on man, we don’t judge… I’m sure if you went ‘no fap’ for a month and this girl approached you and no one was looking and you already had a boner, you would tap that…

        7. Maybe when I was younger. Back in the day, I would have fucked her in the ass, then made her ride her bike home.

        8. “made her ride bike home”…
          LMAO
          don’t know why but I almost spew water on my keyboard… that has to be the funniest I heard in a moment

  11. Actually, porn is very incomplete. It’s like watching only the preview or a small clip from the climax of a movie. Young men would be better to watch you tube clips of pua/game which demonstrate the prelude to the dirty act itself. Porn by itself lacks the approach, the game to butter up the girl. Young people watching too much porn become clueless as to the steps needed to make it all happen. They never see the dialogue or the swag that they need to acquire and develop in order to close the deal.
    Porn gets monotonous and boring by itself. Try watching instead pua/game videos and don’t restrict watching to only the successful approaches. Find and study some amateur and beginner ‘total fail’ repeat attempts. It’s the repeat fails that can be valuable to the beginner and are most humbling to watch. Then compare with successful approaches that contain good frame and staying power in convo/kino. Avoid exclusively watching the porn/fap stuff but instead watch the game vids in the spare time in between hitting the pavement and doing real approaches. This will get the ‘natural’ moves down and kicking in. The more you do, the more moves you have at hand for every situation and the more game you can spit.
    With all the porn out there, most men have the wild monkey humping part down pat, at least in their head. It’s like watching dancing vids without practicing the moves. You can watch break dancing all day, but without taking baby steps doing it, learning what you’re comfortable with, you’re just a little spectator in the crowd watching the star show off his stuff.
    I actually screwed a few girls before I got to where I could bend her like a pretzel and do with her what I wanted. With my very first gf, I had plenty to learn still. I timidly let her lead every time and of course she FZ’d and nexted me after seven lays. But now with first sex, I do like a rag doll with her and try everything every which way. Once in LTR, she can get frumpy if you’ve gotten into provider zone, so you have to screw the fuck out of her the first time. Go all over the map on her and the best shit pop quiz to see if she’s capable of being a good spouse is bang her with a third chick initially. She can be broken later for poly, learning how to carry herself out and about in public, but from the beginning, you’ve got her jealousy ‘IN THE BOX’.
    http://www.mardecortesbaja.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/ElvgrenJackInBoxBaja.jpg

    1. I’ve been watching porn since I was 12. I have no trouble getting chicks. Try to keep the two ideas separate in your head.

  12. The problem with not watching porn is that, for most men, you’ll literally be “starving” for sexuality. And, as anyone who’s ever been incredibly hungry can attest, you’re not the best critic of food when you haven’t eaten in 3 days. A Big Mac or a steak from Capital Grille, both are going to have the same value to you when you’re that hungry.
    Porn allows most men to actually enjoy the experience of sex more because they aren’t starving to death. If you aren’t really good at PUA or in a LTR, no porn will have you hooking up with some fucking ugly women because you’ll take anything to get your rocks off.

    1. So before pornography what happened? By the looks of it pornography ruined your libido

      1. Porn has been around for 1000s of years. Before that, you saw a chick, you took a chick, you banged a chick.

        1. Not millions upon millions of hours of HD porn involving normal and perverted sexual acts of all types.

        3. It is the only time I can get Asians with milk enemas shooting targets with their astral projections. 😀

        4. Eew that’s gross . . that sounds like this girl I knew from Wheeling . .
          who had such a sensitive feeling . .
          that every time she’d itch . .
          she’d have such a tremendous twitch . .
          that she’d pee all the way to the ceiling . .

        6. Twisting words? You mean erotic paintings which were just treated as art.
          BTW Before the 1960’s it was hard to just “have sex” with any women you saw unless you had a powerful position or were rich.

        8. Erotic paintings weren’t masturbated to unless you considered what the Roman Emperors did(watch other people have sex) A good thing

        9. Dude, how do you know what people did with erotic paintings?
          Anyway, why change the subject? I’m talking about porn.

      2. Ancient civilizations used to have brothels (prostitutes). It helped keep societies civil.

  13. I locked my laptop down to prevent any porn browsing. I occasionally watch girls dance around in their underwear on YT. I’m still a hetero male. I’m against porn because I don’t want to do the hard work of getting girls after a porn binge. That burning desire for sex is good. It forces you to get out, develop social skills to meet women. That’s why I stopped watching porn. Everyone is different. Some guys are great with women and indulge in porn. I’m not one of those guys. After watching porn, I’ll just lay on my couch on Friday and Saturday.

    1. Exactly, My early 20’s were a Porn watch Fest, No energy available or Desire to Hunt a woman come Friday or Saturday Night…

      1. It is now! Back in the day we had to walk 15 miles in the snow to a computer with dial up only to pay $89.95 for a trial access on a porn site.

      1. I thought this was a joke until I realized that women once again have the advantage in some areas now. They can even get money from masturbating!

        2. I got SWATTED when I set up my jerk cam. I tried to tell them the woman were objectifying me and got backhanded by some black dude with an assault rifle. 🙁

  16. It is all about living life on your own terms and establishing a “you”. A good job is a start. But some sort of other vocation or hobby that will make you more autonomous and attractive.
    For me, it was 1)languages for a long time. I saw myself as a man of culture and the world. This sort of personae helped me as a young man. With jobs and women also. 2)Then gardening, chickens, firearms as I looked for a hobby as a father and family man.. I want to establish a sort of small farm and homestead to remodel the empowerment of the extended family.
    3)Another idea popped into my head today. That of being an overseas missionary. I have to retire 1st, but want to do something useful with the last part of my life. (Retirement is still 8 years away.).
    I used to see the latter missionary work as useless. But now, I see how Africa has gone from mostly Muslim and other religions to mostly Christian.Missionaries helped with that. I am in despair when I see Chrianianity collapsing in Europe and the USA. But there is a prophesy regarding the Queen of Sheba rising up to judge the other nations. So maybe Africa is where the action is. I will go as a celibate missionary as I would go alone or with a male missionary group.
    As the west abandons Christianity, this Queen of Sheba prophesy could be the case. This last missionary dream is perhaps unrealistic as I have a son and my wife is a Japanese Buddhist. But I think that perhaps some missionary work will be on my agenda at least during the winter non-growing months.
    I am pretty good at traditional agriculture here, and being part of a pro-Jesus anti-GMO front that would rout the Muslims would be meaningful. I could even use the French I learned as a young man.

    1. Stay out of Africa. The last thing we need is more European brainwashing via Christianity. You want to help, teach people a skill or trade. Don’t come here to get more Africans worshipping bs.

      1. Fortunately, the spread of Christianity in Africa is more than counterbalancing the decline in Europe which is becoming godless.

  18. If you’re using porn as a crutch when you should be doing other shit it’s a problem but otherwise whatever. Same deal with any other distraction.

    1. In my situation I should always be doing something else. That reminds me – even now I shouldn’t be commenting on ROK but being badass. Time to go guys.

  19. 1) I already do, 4-5 times a week
    2) Which is basically getting porn?
    3) I’ve done it before, I think overall it makes me less productive then porn. I mean time spent traveling and being in a different nation makes my productivity down to zero. Yea sure porn lowers productivity but after about an hour it will be normal again.
    4) Learning a skill? I’m not against this but be realistic, some fucking average guy with 50 hours of bullshit work doesn’t have time for that. But he does have time to jack off for 10 minutes every day and it makes him feel good.
    5) Again maybe if you fap like 3 times a day with an hour session each, but doing a couple times a week will not kill you. “Pornhub or Redtube steal chances to socialize, develop your game and just be yourself and happy. ” Not really, unless you were already a sperg anyway.
    Personally I probably don’t fap as much as other people, I do it maybe twice a week with porn. So maybe that’s why I never really experienced the same negative consequences as other people. But I don’t think it will really be all that beneficial except for maybe a placebo.
    Lastly, keep in mind why PUA-types are against porn, it’s all part of the business strategy. An average to below-average guy without porn is going to want to fuck real life girls but since he’s no good at it, he buys PUA books, goes to seminars, visit their websites, etc. You get the picture. Whether or not these PUAs actually want to help guys is a subject of debate, but there is no denying that this is good for business.

  20. Although the recession, the supply/demand thing clearly tells us that pornography is here to stay. But the human cost always strikes me.

    Spanish pornstar: “I have had gonorrhea and chlamydia.”

  21. What is with the ROK porn fixation? Its arguably a waste of time. But so is watching sports on TV. And watching sports on TV doesn’t make you bad at sports or a poor loser. As long as its small part your life and you have outside interests, it is harmless escapism. I’ve heard the argument porn distorts your perception of women, or interferes with your ability to interact with women. Women consume porn now also, and use sex toys which men rarely use.

    1. I agree. There is strange fixation on it here that reminds me of the Catholic Church’s once hard line position on masturbation which was the greatest evil known to mankind.

    3. There are many negatives of porn. I’m not for banning it. Could you ban it? Everyone is different. Some use porn no problem. Others spend their prime jerking off to a screen of moving pictures

    4. All of this is true. The biggest perception distorter of women is women themselves. Porn is an escape from women. If women want men to come back, they need to change the perception so that men can actually talk to them without getting stonewalled due to some fake social barrier that they themselves created.

    5. You are absolutely right. Women consume a lot of porn these days (you wouldn’t believe what I found on some of their computers..), and they all masturbate using their vibrators until they burn them out. There is no stigma attached to these women behaviors. To the contrary: “they are exploring their bodies bs”…
      Also what are the pimpled face guys no woman gives them the time of day supposed to do? Castrate themselves? What’s up with this fixation against men watching porn? So much double standard again..

      1. Women are weak things that can’t help but give into their desires – complaining that men aren’t ‘allowed’ to be as weak and passive as women doesn’t make sense. Double standard? Make your own standard.
        Men are supposed to be strong beings that won’t let some sexual urges get in the way of their vision, their mission.
        (My opinion on porn is not set in stone but what I am sure of is if porn is preventing you from being a player/alpha and achieving your goals, then it’s time to stop or at least seriously reduce it to the level where it doesn’t ruin your life and vision)

  22. I don’t understand the difference in terms watching porn and actually doing it the old fashioned way in your head. The argument about wasting time is bizarre as you’ll always waste time doing it either way, in fact, what’s time for anyway, but to use it on occasions for pleasurable things, surely? And besides watching porn is probably a more effective way (if that’s your yardstick) than the old fashioned way in terms of time wasted.
    Porn acts as a necessary social “safety valve” and not just for men, but indeed for woman’s natural sexual energies can be released in this relatively benign manner too, and many modern women watch it in large numbers. Besides, there are times when your testosterone levels are very high and realistically it’s not practical to be having sex five or six times a day even if you’re married. On other occasions you’re wife or girlfriend is simply not in the mood (and this can go on for days) but you still need a release. Again, it’s not realistic or acceptable for guys in a relationship to chasing other women, so, I think some of the advice in this article is off beam.

  23. I love traveling. Some people are saying airport security is a hassle but I’ve never had any problem. Those saying it’s over-rated probably are doing it right. Staying in a ritzy hot w/ other tourist and just going where the other tourist go. That would be boring. I rented a apartment on Airbnb in decent neighborhood for the month and it’s been great, wouldn’t change that for the world. Getting to know the locals and all and brushing up and learning spanish as well. Not to mention all the beautiful girls. Its a bit hard but it’s ok as I love latin women so I can deal w/ it lol

    1. When I hear guys say they take month-long vacations it makes me jealous. How are you able to do that? Not currently working, or self-employed work from laptop?

      1. I just saved the money. I did get let go of my job even though I told them back in April I was taking a month off. But fuck it, employers don’t want employees enjoying time off

      2. Some people are born to rich family. Some people built their riches.
        http://wallstreetplayboys.com/
        This is my view. Without the poor, there cannot be rich. If you are ready to throw your morality away or at least prefer profit over anything, you can do it. You can become rich. If you live in America, it’s SO EASY to become rich… all it takes is consistent effort.
        I’m assuming you are mid 30s, engaged to a Palestinian woman and generally hate American social culture. You grew up and was raised in North Carolina but you identify more with Arab culture. Nothing wrong with that.
        IF you want to make profit, you got to either do investment banking, sales, real estate investment, scam, multi-level marketing, etc…
        there are many ways to make money off of American population and world population (if you are using world wide internet). …
        People are emotional and buy on impulse. Look at Kim Kardashian emoji. Majority of people are brain dead, stupid, emotional and impulsive. Take ADVANTAGE of that.
        If you are willing to NOT lose sleep after taking advantage of other people, making money becomes that much easier.
        Prey on people’s ignorance and emotion. … after all if you fucked a married woman, you wouldn’t give a shit, right? because if her husband was beta, it was his fault for not taking good care of his woman right?
        … I followed your post and it seems like you have chemical degree and going and jumping from job to job and you managed to create resume with being a manager and you got laid off (correct me if I”m wrong and you are looking for opportunity to make that big money)… you used to be big follower of Bold and Determined website and you no longer find interest in Victor Pride. Well That guy succeeded big time from Real Estate Investing and Blogging…
        If you are not shy and you have “good” social skills (social skills is just really pretending and putting on mask and moving people’s emotion), if you can be good persuader and good salesman and you are mentally prepared for rejection, it’s hard to not earn big money from sales.
        Check out 30daystox twitter. He reads some good books relating to website and sales.
        You actually have some followers (INCLUDING ME). Yeah that should say something. I like your comments and your straightfowardness. Sometimes I troll online and sometimes I put serious post. If you make a website, I would daily check your website; hell I even check out your comment from time to time.
        How did you manage to get your face online ? Bodybuilding misc? Your face is online and some people know what you look like because you are pretty open with sharing your pic from what I noticed. Are you aware that some people follow you? Why not make a website about it?
        What skills do you have? do you have ways to monetize off of that? Do you have authority in your subject area that makes demand from public and do you have followers?

        1. I’ve always considered going into sales, just haven’t really found the right opportunity yet. I always see those “unlimited earning potential” jobs, but there is always a limit. Whatever the #1 salesman made is the limit.
          You make it sound so easy to become rich. I’m assuming you’ve followed your own advice and you are rich now? Honestly, I would have no problem running a scam or taking advantage of people to make profit. It’s a dog eat dog world.

      3. Just quit your job and go. Even on shit bike courier money, I was able to take summers off and travel all over the USA. That’s the beauty of McJobs is that they are never forever. You just pick them up and chuck them out as you need.

  24. New Years resolution: no porn and no fapping. Instead, channel sexual energy into making more money and fucking GF harder and with more gusto. If GF (or other local women) doesn’t perform or causes too much grief, then fuck cute chicas in Mexico for around $20 per pop. Why not combine travel, adventure, language skills, great food and fucking young hotties ALL TOGETHER for near peanuts, especially if you’re near to Mexico or other latin countries?
    Ohhhh nooooo… I just mentioned the practicality and enjoyment of pounding fun / cute whores on ROK!!!! The dreaded “Pay-4-Play” angle that so many PUAs get enraged over on this site. Sorry gents, I guess the cat (pussy) is out of the bag now.
    Never understood why an alpha can’t mix and match to his heart’s desire: Game a local slut from a bar on a Saturday night and film the sex with a hidden camera; meet up with some bitch from Tinder for an easy pump and dump on Sunday after some late-night pizza; slay a potential short-term GF prospect on Monday after she makes you dinner at her place; score an eager cougar (single-mom, of course) from Match.com for a decent blowjob in your sports car on Wednesday night; take a road trip into Tijuana on Friday night with some buddies and enjoy cheap tacos, beer and young latina pussy. Now that’s a FUN week for not much dinero, no???
    To me and a few friends, that’s alpha-as-fuck behavior and we always feel like Lions on the savanna. And the stories we can tell… priceless. Porn may have some limited benefits (nicely outlined by EnglishBob), but it’s largely over-used by absolute losers. Isn’t that obvious?

    1. What’s funny is how often friends and family let it slip that they’ve paid for it. People frown upon it yet websites are loaded with escort ads. I f-ked a Russian girl in Bahrain that most guys jack off to online. She was amazing.

    2. Some guys like me have no choice but to be the absolute loser. I’m an American but people make me feel like a foreigner and I lose before I even start. That cheap 20 dollar hooker for you is more like 40-60 for me because of the color of my skin. I wouldn’t appear to be a loaded tourist but one of their own poor common folk. They wouldn’t even come up to me and proposition me.

  25. 1 Pray to God for Help.
    After that Find Hobbies Like Working out, and Reading/Learning about something, reading the Bible.
    The Best way to be better at Interacting with women, is to Not watch porn, and Stop Masturbating, so the Body can build up sexual Tension. The Sexual Tension can than be Channeled into Charisma, and the Charisma will make interaction with a woman become Effortless, but first a Man must learn Sexual Discipline, if a Man can Master his sexual Urge and abstain from Pornography/Masturbation, the ability to control himself he will gain, and the Man will recognize this ability and that will give him Confidence. Abstaining from Masturbation is the ultimate Fuel to improve one’s Game, when a Man Masturbates to Porn his Drive is expended and his Desire with women satisfied, Not masturbating leaves a Man Restless and Forces him to Hunt women …. A Man who Owns himself and Controls Himself does not Resort to Lazy practices Like Porn and Masturbation.

    1. it’s not healthy not to release your semen regularly one way or another. can lead to prostate problems.

      1. I’d Rather Learn Self Mastery and have Prostate Problems than use prostate Problems as an excuse to avoid Self Mastery. Every Man at some Point will have Health Problems, Prostate Problems is pretty High on the Health Problems list, most Men are destined to be Ruled by their Bodies, few Men will Rule their Bodies.

        2. Prostate Problems aren’t determined by whether a Man Masturbates or not. Just don’t use prostate Problems as an Excuse to Masturbate.

    2. I used a complicated series of steps to lock down my laptop to ensure I can’t get around the porn blocker. When your dick wins the wrestling match with your brain, you’ll find a way around that blocker.

  26. The joys of internet porn. An entire generation who will never know just how boring masturbation is. And how motivating it is to know that if you do not get a girl tonight. Its you, a cold bed, Rosie Palms and her 5 sisters one more time tonight. With Rosie as your only other option, the 6 you ignored all night long while hitting on her 8.9 friend. She starts looking lovely long before 2 AM

    1. It really is terrible, but not only do Men Settle with watching Porn, Men also develop a Desire to watch porn, between having to settle with Porn for sexual Release and the Developed desire for Porn.. False Reality Replacing Reality.. some Men may never know how wonderful a Real woman’s body is. Very Sad.

      1. Yes indeed. To me there is something pathetic about a man’s entire sexual experience being with a screen.

      2. It’s preferable to have a woman’s body but it’s a shame you have to get through the controller of the body before you get to it.

      1. Now remember 5 is average. 6 above average 7 very attractive above that there be only hottie’s. Most guys can’t even get 6s. only those who are above average. 6s are not lonly girls unless they only settle for 9s. And hell they can easily get a pump and dump from a 9. If the worst you ever do is a 6 ( a cute girl ) I congratulate you

        1. It depends on the country. In some countries a 5 might be average. I think in places like Poland a 7 is average. In the USA the number is probably 6.

        1. Depends how willing you are to put up with her bullshit. If she’s great then definitely agree! (as long as not fat)

  27. I can’t recall how many times girls loved it when I did the exact same shit that Nacho Vidal would do. I was surprised.
    I mean if you watch porn, then it’s up to you. You can still watch porn and still get things done. It’s like eating fast food or drinking alcohol from here to there. You can still manage to get shit done even when you’re on all that.
    Now days, guys get slapped with false rape charges. All it takes is a neighbor’s call to 911 when they hear loud arguments in adjacent houses or girls call the police. Once you are even questioned by the police even in simplest manner and they run through your ID, that shit gets stored in the system. paranoid yet? You think your records are all expunged. With digitalized world, simple shit like that can get stored easily in NCIC and sold to private companies.
    I will give AWALT a little break here (99 %) modern women are damaged goods. It’s better to get into mini-mini-mini relationship where you can just use fake names and just hop on riding the pussy for one week or two week relationship at max.
    I mean there has to be something better between (paying a prostitute underground usually through backpage) vs getting into stale sex with long term nagging girlfriend.
    Just run your tight games and obtain a list of fuck buddies ON DEMAND and have MULTIPLE of it at your finger tip and make sure you get that shit recorded just in case.
    Or easier solution, use your hands and some good internet connection.
    Your main focus though should be MAKE THAT DOUGH ($$$$$$$). When you have ALL THAT $$$$$$, you can game any girl anywhere without worrying about “running out of money” or being stuck in one place. Obtain to be at the status of Dan Bilzerian.
    Some guys have A LOT OF patience for female drama and possible rejection. Rejection is the least worry though because either they are interested or they are not. Almost always I run out of patience easily with females hence no need to communicate with them unless my balls felt like they were about to explode from not jerking off for a month.
    If you are a good salesman, able to fake your personality and you take good care of your physicality, getting women shouldn’t even that hard.
    Now days every guy is scared to approach women so they do this online test with okcupid and tinder. I think now even okcupid will go out of fade and some new website is going to replace and girls will jump onto the bandwagon popularity.
    If you do something most guys will not do (actually approach women in real life) then you stand out among many many guys. It takes a lot of mental draining though at least for me. Just simple approach to women; all it takes.
    Consuming porn or not, it’s your choice. I watch porn and I have no shame about admitting it. To me it’s just like short rush and same feeling of eating McDonalds hamburger when I’m craving for fast food and drinking booze. I don’t do it everyday but once in a while, it feels good… We’re human.

  28. Men need to start not giving a fuck about what other people think and just do whatever the fuck they want to do (as long as it’s within legal bound). If you jack off a lot to porn hub then so be it. It’s your body; do whatever you want with it. No need to be over-analytical about this. It’s just a porn; nothing more nothing less. You are not going to die and you will still live.
    Whether you think porn has bad effect on you or not, use common sense. Of course jacking off 15 times a day is going to drain you out vs jacking off once every 14 days.
    Again, common sense. I guess common sense isn’t so common after all.
    You don’t need “5 things you need to be doing if you….”
    Just do it and it’s over. Tada! Now get back to focusing on making money. Simple. Time management and common sense. It doesn’t require a super genius IQ to master those.

    1. To Do List.
      Dry cleaners
      groceries
      call mom
      make appt for oil change
      watch porn
      jerk off
      get estimate for carpet cleaning…..

      1. um. I would actually deduct few list there…
        Dry cleaners… ( It’s not that hard to clean and iron your own clothes…) Most people are lazy at this
        Groceries…. (every human with money need to buy food at some point)
        Call mom…. ( personally a grown man don’t need to call mom unless it was for brief family touch or just conversation…) a man can talk to his mom no problem…
        Make appointment for oil change? Every man should know how to change his car oil and I can do this myself… it’s actually easy. Try doing it in your own garage. Neighbors will harass you for this (I”m dead serious).
        Jerkoff, nothing wrong with that although fucking a woman is MUCH better.
        Get estimate on carpet cleaning? I’m a clean person. I rather clean the carpet myself (if I have a woman, I have her do it) but cleaning carpet is no problem. We are civilized human beings, we don’t need to live our life like a trailer park white trash or like a nigger… we need to clean our shit whether we pay others or do it ourselves ( preferably ourselves). Most cleaning companies are run by illegal spics and it’s our job to give the job to white person instead or do it ourselves.
        I see a lot of young men young white guys and young minority guys saying alpha this beta this…
        How about add a list of
        wiping your own ass with a toilet paper… is that beta or alpha?
        I mean come the fuck on… some of you here are just lost souls and I actually feel sorry for some of you young guys here no offense to veterans and long time posters here.
        I feel like some guys are so lost on what masculinity is … they label anything alpha or beta.
        I recommend any one here to read Mike Cernovich’s article on this…
        http://www.dangerandplay.com/2015/10/19/am-i-an-alpha-male/
        and Victor Pride’s article on this
        https://boldanddetermined.com/the-only-piece-of-advice-you-will-ever-need-to-pick-up-and-attract-women-and-keep-them-vying-for-your-love-attention-and-affection/
        I realize that young guy’s brain cell’s are deep fried due to our fucked up modern world and your dads haven’t taught you this but when you grow up and realize and see life as it is, you are not going to worry about alpha this beta this…
        none of you youngsters here know what it feels like to go hungry, you are complacent with heater, air conditioner and food (breakfast, lunch and dinner)… I truly feel sorry for our future generation.
        You white Americans and White Europeans have A LOT to learn from White Russians…
        Beta this alpha that?
        Fuck that,… try facing a bear close up few feet away… In Russia, there are a lot of wild bears….

      3. You can watch porn and jack off while you are on the phone with your mum or making the oil change appt, or getting the carpet estimate, so that saves some time.

  31. The best part about porn is the same as strip clubs. When you’re done, you get to walk away.

    1. This really is huge. Think about it. There are certain types of dates that, once you’ve done your thing, you are now faced with finding a tactful way to say, GTFO. I once had a girl sleep over super happily on the first night and wake up all lazily and I was like, you’re cute but I gotta go and no you can’t just let yourself out, thanks.

  32. Can’t afford the gym, don’t really talk to women IRL much less women online (I don’t know where to even begin), can’t afford traveling, I’m loaded with skills (know various martial arts,can cook, good at competitive games, tech pro), can’t afford going out, there’s literally nothing else I can spend my time on other than getting a job and even getting a job is counter productive to a social life (it’s always has been).

    1. I also want to add that with each passing day I’m becoming more and more serious misogynist.

    2. Get a part-time job in a garden centre. You will meet a million MILFs in that place. So easy to work game into your sales pitches etc. You can meet a million chicks as a bike courier too. Of course the pay is shit in both these jobs, but if you want relentless contact with women all day, those are the two best McJobs of all.

      1. I’m not exactly sure if there’s a lot of bike courier jobs in my city but I’ll check it out. I love cycling.

      1. I’ve been trying to put together a workout routine but it’s not very easy. I have to practically piece together a comprehensive workout based on various guides out there and then adapt that for home use.

  34. Unrelated…It’s amazing that Bill Clinton is getting off the Hook, when he is being accused by numerous women of Various Sexual Assaults, and Bill Cosby is going to Trial.

    1. It’s because Bill Clinton has spent his whole career trying to sell himself as a slick operator who can talk anybody into anything and Bill Cosby has been trying to convince us he is a gentle, wise, humourous father figure.

  35. moment of hard honesty, i learn native level english in one year thanks to porn, how else i would get the motivation to learn and read about a culture that doesnt attract my atention in any other way. ? i also became interested in girls thanks to my porn fantasies, interested enough to do cold aproaches in a country when cold aproaches are rare.
    However, for me the best porn benefit its to be able to do reverse engeneering and known oneself better, why i like that actress or that kind of porn? I agree with the author, my point its about to get the good things of anything one does, including porn.

  36. The only reason for this article is that Porn is a competitor the same way feminism is a competitor for your attention to the PUA philosophy. The only difference is that Porn does not care. The only thing porn does is causes masturbation. Masturbation causes orgasms, Orgasms are know to have very significant health benefits especially if you have one about once per day. It does not appear to matter of you have one with a female or infront of your computer screen. We know this not just from epidemiological studies that are quite numerous now but from a biochemical understand of the chemicals our brains release into our bodies and its effects. And I am not even counting the many studies that pertains to prostate cancer.
    If you are like me and dont care for female relationships which cause more problems than benefits then you have to get your daily does of orgasms elsewhere, and porn can help. If you have a regular girlfriend/wife, you are NOT getting sex once perday and if you are, it is guaranteed to go down to about once per week. Women dont want you to masturbate. If you want to live long – masturbate.
    PUAs and feminist are going to be on the same side of the battle when Ocular Rift and content/peripherals comes out for it because women are going to have a hard time competing with it. As far as sex goes – its going to be like having sex with a different woman everyday of the year with limitless fantasies. Of course every once in a while we must opt for a ‘real woman’ because we cannot forget where all of this came from.
    This author tries to conflate a whole set of positive things men to do improve themselves with watching porn – it makes no sense. He is basically saying – why watch porn when you could be doing A or B or C. They are not exclusive events.
    You want to know what comes pretty close now – rig up a 4k monitor right over your bed – seek out some good 4k porn – go the site inthecrack.com (they have no men in their content) where there are long solo sessions that go real close up with some of the best looking women in porn. Its incredible.

    1. The more I read about guys and the extreme ways they are getting off to porn, the more depressing it sounds. All the HD monitors in the world can’t compete with a real woman.

      1. Real woman (sexually) are about the senses – touch, sight, scent, voice. HD/3D/Rift etc only captures the visuals, and can capture it to near perfection. And we are not talking about the average overweight, obnoxious American woman. Real women are obviously the best, but putting them on a pedestal is the Achilles heels of most men. There are dangers and risks, which is good sometimes. But other times we just want to get off. Relationships are a waste of time.
        My point is that there is significant benefit in just “getting off”. Its an area that is unlikely to be studied thoroughly as its about mens health and it does not suit the narrative of the PC crowd that rules. Real women cannot give you the satisfaction everyday all the time – she will kill you with boredom and demands after a while. For every beautiful woman you see out there, there are a string of men that grew fedup of her.
        Why would other guys sexual preferences be “depressing”? – thats your problem right there.

      2. Computer won’t give you herpes. Last GF I had, I could stay hard all night with her but I never came. I would visit her late at night then ride home and jack a load at dawn.

  37. This is stupid. Who doesn’t watch porn.. I’d rather do that then some of the regular girls that are out there. They just lay there and want you to do everything

  38. http://www.ergo-log.com/maleorgasm.html
    “Every hundred orgasms a man has a year diminish his chance of dying by 36 percent. Epidemiologists at the University of Bristol come to this conclusion in a study that was published in 1997. Regular sex halves men’s chance of dying, the research shows.”

  39. When it comes to women and sexuality, far too many men are bound up by the mental slavery of religion, feminism, chivalry, and a Victorian sense of sexual shame imposed by years of societal conditioning.
    For men who have trouble with women, a steady diet of porn viewing can be an efficient means of putting them in touch with their primal sexuality. The message of porn is that women are here to be fucked; that is their purpose. They are sex objects, and watching porn can train a man to consistently view them as such. There is a term for a man who habitually interacts with women on this basis: “alpha”.
    Watch a bunch of porn and then go out and interact with women in that frame: the porn will get you out of your head and have you feeling in your body on a deep primal level that women are sexual playthings to be conquered and dominated. When women sense this from you ( as they are designed to do) panties are going to get wet. Women are aroused by primal male desire; when you get her to that point, the rest is merely finding a convenient place to fuck her.

  40. So does anybody actually masturbate with their hand or have you guys found better techniques? I like to slide it between my pillow and my mattress and it is a much better sensation than jerking by hand.

  41. The real issue with internet porn is that there is SO much of it, it is obtainable with ZERO effort, and it is all FREE. What if you could just download as much cocaine as you wanted for free from your PC at home? How many guys who were once occasional drug users would become overnight addicts? Never before have men been presented with such a diabolical honey-trap as the PC hooked up to high-speed internet. I fucking love porn but I do admit it is ruining my life, but at the same time some days I cum 4-5 times.

    1. This topic is very close to my own life. I knew porn was a problem for me when I’d get done with 3+ hour binges. I’d feel like dog sh!t for days afterwards.

  42. I like the conclusion part of the text, and numbers 1 and 4, at least. But generally I have to agree with englishbob on this one.
    If Garrett wrote something like “5 things you should be doing instead of wasting time”… Then, it would be perfect. But we loose time in so many different ways, nowadays… Look at the time you spend uploading and “interacting” in Facebook. Why don’t you just hang out with your friends, instead?
    Maybe this was addressed to a younger audience than me… Or to loosers out there.

    1. For me, the biggest time waste is browsing useless s**t on the Internet. One news webpage links to another, then I open Wikipedia to check what/where is something mentioned, and before I know it, 3 hours wasted doing nothing. Even playing a MMORPG would add more value to my life than that.

      1. Yes, I know… And you never learn that much, as most of what you read is clutter, anyway.

  43. 1. Costs money and time I don’t have, too tired from working 72 hours a week.
    2. Married, costs too much money to get divorced once inevitably caught.
    3. Costs money and time I don’t have.
    4. Costs money and time I don’t have.
    5. 99% of people can’t deliver me the satisfaction that 10 minutes of watching porn and jacking off can.
    Porn wins.

    1. I agree- the single issue for me (when I was in my 20’s) was societal/religious pressure..After I had a kid and married..it was off and of course she bailed mentally…now, after being divorced 6 years…I enjoy women again..only to the extent they provide good sex.. if they don’t – they are gone. I don’t need what your talking about and I am a better person for it!! I don’t have advise to any young person on this matter- it just is -and your going to do what you think you should do.

  45. I used to think casual porn watching was just fine. Never got much into heavy watching. Maybe 10-15 minutes a week. But, I took the “no fap” challenge and I can tell you it made a huge difference. I had more energy to go out, better sex with the girlfriend, and was more “boorish” at work in seeking what I wanted. It’s worth giving it a try. Can’t say I got more time as I wasn’t spending that much time porn watching, but definitely the no fap exerpience changed me.

  46. Winning is better than sex. The best prize for winning is good sex. Porn is more like a participation trophy. All you have to do is show up.

  47. I’m in the minority here but I think porn is a lot healthier than pregnancy and STD risks. And now, way safer than potential rape accusations, attorneys, life over,etc.
    if you have a healthy social life I think moderate use of porn is alright.
    if you’re a recluse who uses porn all the time, yea that’s a problem. but if it’s more like a supplement then it’s far, far safer than the bullshit you deal with from modern women.
    look at all these young athletes who just get sex all the time then they start fucking every random ho cause only losers use porn right… almost ruined jameis winston

  49. Modern aggressive Porn is not what most women get excited about. Why do you think so many are turning to Lesbian relationships in groves? Not saying do not watch but be careful to what you watch before it overtakes reality.

  50. People will always be addicted to things that give them a certain level of pleasure. It can be sex, good food and drinks, attention from females, videogames etc.
    The main point is that you stay disciplined and focused on the things you have to do and don’t get distracted by porn, females, videogames or overconsumption of good food.

  51. How fuckin sad, you cluster of gawking twats are.
    None of you will ever be a king of anything except your own desperation, and delusion.

  52. Good advice, another one I would add is get off the damn Internet for a while.
    As much as I love the manosphere, spending too much time here will cause you to become (quite justifiably) cynical. Not conducive to a happy life.
    Turn off the net in your house, forget about the sjws and femininnies and just focus on yourself, and your goals for once. The time is much better spent that way. A rich self made fit man, with a bunch of side tail is much more effective a spokesman than a person whose so angry at how things are shit for men that they forget to forge their own path and improve their own life first independently of how corrupt the system is.
    I say this to myself first than anyone else.

  53. Travel, go out, learn languages you never use, nudes on social media….
    is this article telling us to become women?

  54. Interesting that 40 years ago before porn was accessible and few men even bothered to acquire it, the message to us was to avoid the trap of ‘bedding women’ as it is described today. Yet today ‘bedding women’ is presented as the solution. What has changed?
    In our younger days, a prostitute was a woman who knew she was going to be used but did so for the money. The normal, average woman was not a prostitute for she did not allow herself to be used by men. Today the normal woman knows she is going to be used and its free of charge–and she’s fine with it. Or is she?
    Therein lies the issue for men. First a man realizes that he is male (i.e., a male is a human being who was born with a penis and testicles for he has the Y-chromosome). Then he realizes that from the first moment he ejaculates (his semenarche), which is usually by masturbating, he can from that moment to the end of his life father the next generation of humanity. Thus, he is responsible for his semen.
    Once a man realizes that he is responsible for where his semen lands, he can see much clearer that these women today are desperate for a man to help her out of modern day prostitution: the bedding of women.
    E.g., when one of our sons told his future wife that he was not going to have sex with her until they married for she had been used by previous men, she completely changed. A man who refused to ‘use’ her was a man whom she wanted to be with for the rest of her life. They just had their third child and she is thrilled to have as many as her husband so desires. Happy and content at being the wife of the man she adores and thrilled at having his children barely describes this woman who was rescued from modern day prostitution by a man who knows what a man is and completely fills that role as the king of his own kingdom.
    If this site is about the ‘Return of Kings,’ then know that ruling your ‘kingdom’ has nothing to do with ‘bedding women.’ It is being responsible as a man and it absolutely starts with being responsible for your own semen. Most men today missed that lesson when he shot his first load and this nation has suffered much because of it. Responsible men rule his kingdom for those in his kingdom. Irresponsible men don’t care about anyone but himself.

  55. At first the title misled me, I was expecting advice like:
    * Wash your hands frequently. Otherwise it might be a lot like – “sharing a drink equals an indirect Kiss”.
    * Pull away from the computer every so often to avoid eye strain. No need to go blind.
    * Clean your keyboard and sitting area periodically. Not only do you not want everything to be sticky, but your chair will start smelling like ass.
    * Take breaks to avoid chafing. Skin irritation and penile blisters are no laughing matter.
    * Clean your browsing history and Temp files once in a blue moon. Junked-up computer = slower streaming.
    * Wear headphones so as to be considerate to those around you. Some people could be eating or trying to concentrate.
    And for the old-school:
    * Have some Pepto handy, magazine pages could start some bad indigestion.
    But these are some pretty good things to do as alternatives to consuming porn. 🙂

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