106 thoughts on “Open Letter To American Fathers”

1. Every time a girl suggests that I meet her dad I say okay and make her call me dad instead lololzololololozlozolozlolz

2. American fathers…producing the next generation of sluts.

3. Yeah yeah everyone gets the point — the second you submit to the feminine imperitive of today’s society is the second before it fucks you in the ass. However, this article is incredibly naïve, unhelpful, and dickish. Also forced, like you’re straining to fill the copy. Love the site, but please Roosh do something about the quality control here. The younger, inexperienced authors are showing strain.

   1. seconded. I don’t disagree with the message but I would wager the vast majority of readers here at ROK are not in high school, this just doesn’t do much for us. But this is not to diss the young author, because I will honestly say when I was in high school I was a total clueless fuck. But this piece would be best suited on a young manosphere forum whose readers are of his demographic.

   2. I wanted to write about how naive and frankly idiotic American fathers are, how their behavior affects that of their children, and instead of writing another tirade, I experimented with a different tone, with some personal stylized perspective.
      Some of our readers are into game, others into more patriarchy/social criticism etc; I’m firmly in both camps. If the criticism is one solely of quality, I’ll consider it.

      1. There is a severe lack of decent, honest advice for young, modern fathers in the mainstream media. That’s why men look toward these kinds of sites. I can appreciate what you are trying to do and why, but this could have been titled, “The Time I Fingered a Chick Under the Table” and been published in Penthouse Forum. You obviously give enough of a shit, so why not seek out some fathers and elicit constructive advice, relevant data and personal success stories that will encourage the like-minded to take a stand?

         1. I offered some of my perspective in the article, which comprises most of the article, about things that I would do differently if I were a father, but people were too pissed at the other parts to actually notice and address that.
            I’m not a father, but I’ve seen enough families to have opinions on the matter. But I’d hesitate to give advice without wide personal experience on the matter, or strong research to back me up. For instance, I want to do an article on homeschooling, but the research answers only very narrow questions if at all, and I haven’t had enough real life exposure to homeschooled kids or their parents to have an informed opinion.

         2. To be fair, I read the thing to the end. Every paragraph however, didn’t need a description of dicks getting sucked or gaping whores to make it’s point. I think you realise that now. As I mentioned though, since you care – I would love if you went to the source, real young fathers, and reached out by giving them real world advice that is not only relevant but life-changing.

      2. What you have just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul

         1. I think a movie from the nineties about a father who let his son turn into a piece of shit that beds stupid woman, get obliterated drunk, have useless loser friends, and turn his father’s business over to someone else rather than showing off his story and waste his fortune to be an insult to EG about talking of American fathers as a failure is an “EPIC FAIL” in of itself don’t you agree?

      3. I don’t think you need to change your argument here. You have a very valid point, and as an American father and ex-player, I am telling you that you said something that needs to be said.
         I have no problem with a woman getting her satisfaction in the bedroom, only when she is doing it with random dudes she does not know in bar bathrooms and wondering why she is lonely. Then having their fathers infantalize her bad behavior as if she had no personal agency in the decision. Just so she can go and pretend to be a victim, and blame every one and any one for her own self made whorrish problems. Sometimes, shaming language si the kcik that set’s people in the right; and if not, they at least can’t say no one ever said anything they needed to hear (or in this case read).
         Also, many of these men giving you shaming language would not hesitate to call one of the whores in question with a neg, shaming language, or insult to her and her friends. If they don’t do that, I am curious why they are reading this blog?
         The offense you write should be coming from these women’s fathers, but in the “polite way” your detractors speak of. When someone insults me, or calls me out, it is not uncommon for me to dish out a level of sarcasm that is very offensive. Also, my sons get a heavy, but not overbearing dose of reality from their father when they do something stupid in my presence. Why would anyone think I would not do that when they are adults too? Though I will be a friend more than their authority figure; if I see them drowning, but let it continue as to not “be offensive” then I am quite likely a worthless father.
         People cannot come here on this blog, bragging about f”******” and shaming women, and then get puritanical on a writer for calling it like it is. Many fathers who do stay in their marriages do so because they are too weak to stand up for themselves, and their feminist wives deal with it. Or their feminist wives/baby-mommas have kicked them to the curb, and produce these “wonderful little princess cupcakes” en mass for all of your saintly detractors here to “have spiritual experiences with.”
         Let’s be honest. If fathers were allowed to be in their family’s life, and showed the balls necessary to warrant being called the head of the home; we would have a lot less of the articles we have here on this blog. Or maybe a ton more?
         Either way, what you said is the truth! And I for one don’t give a damn about what its literary wrapping comes in.

      4. it’s easy to sing your whole hearted attitudes when nothing depends on it and you don’t have to keep the peace…..
         honey doo dads kinda have the divorce rape axe, hanging over their heads, so it’s hard to see a way out….
         beyond that, they’re also trying to keep the wifey in a good mood and perhaps get laid now and again, plus they’re kinda busy paying for the huge overhead that it needs to run a family….
         blame the women and the schools, as much as the men…..
         as sick as it sounds, one of the best get outs for men in this situation is getting the handgun and mowing down the whole family….
         don’t blame the guy getting ass raped in jail when he sticks the abuser in the neck…. blame the jail and the prisoners….

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      1. I refreshed this page and saw the comments number fall a couple of times

         1. If you notice that happens on all posts, from comments saved in the local database compared to what’s on the Disqus database. They are not synced constantly.

         2. Disqus sucks.

5. Unfunny, unhelpful, uninteresting and written by someone who considers “Tucker Max” to be high literature. This author was too interested in boasting that he got laid by an 8 one time to contribute anything original.

6. Goldstein, you are an a-hole…and I genuinely say that as a compliment. You are a father’s worst nightmare and a girl’s wet fantasy…to all the Men who have read the article, emulate Goldstein’s a-hole game…it’s how you’ll get poosey…and if you’ve got daughters, raise them well and be that strong male figure in her life.

   1. He’d probably appreciate it more if you cut the foreplay and unzipped his pants already.

      1. You reek of homo-eroticism…

   2. Won’t work for short guys who are 5’5…you’ll just come across as a dude with Napoleon complex or someone who is compensating.

      1. Those with napoleon complexes are not typically considered a-hole types like Goldstein in the article; napoleon complex sufferers are more controlling…like the father in the article…this controlling attitude is overcompensation for a small stature…Goldstein’s a-hole game is not about control but amused mastery and aloof boldness….

         1. Can you please explain A-hole game . I need a clear understand of it . I always assumed it was not taking shit from women and making women qualify themselves to you…which if you are a short guy, can make it come across as napoleon complex.

         2. Google chateau heartiste. When you get to his blog, type into the search box: ‘uncaring a-hole game’. That’s a good place to start.

      2. Betcha Napoleon pulled mad bitches though!
         Any quick study google search will pull up the sort of player he was. Besides, when you have that sort of strategical mind and statesmen’s prowess; poosey comes to you. You don’t need to look. Height means nothing. He could have been a midget and had his pick.
         I’m 6’5″

         1. Your tall, I’ll bet women came easily to you or even approached you. I’ll bet it took very little resistance for women to open up to you. . Also google ” exposing heigtism twitter” and you will see the true thoughts of women and height. Your lucky you tall ,I’ m 5’5 and experience women rejecting me for height..like they actually comment about it with out me saying anything. And Napoleon was French and back in his time, 5’6 was the average height for a French man. So he was not short for his time.

         2. Your tall, I’ll bet women came easily to you or even approached you. I’ll bet it took very little resistance for women to open up to you. . Also google ” exposing heigtism twitter” and you will see the true thoughts of women and height. Your lucky you tall ,I’ m 5’5 and experience women rejecting me for height..like they actually comment about it with out me saying anything. And Napoleon was French and back in his time, 5’6 was the average height for a French man. So he was not short for his time.

         3. actually josephine’s dog bite napoleons dick really badly which is probably why he spent the rest of his life harassing Europe…

         4. Napoleon was average height.

         5. Being taller than average is an advantage with females but being “too tall” is a disadvantage as well. So the optimum height is like 5’11” – 6’1″ Ta;; enough but not freaky tall like some basketball player.
            Napoleon was about 5’8″. This was before the metric system and the Old French converted into the English system was in error from the measurements taken of him at death. Also, a lot of his upper class officers were tall (the lower classes were shorter) so he looked smaller by comparison.

         6. They did not start approaching me until I learned game. I was always alpha, in regards to other men, but raised by a single mom to “cherish” women. Bahh. You could conquer cities alone, be hung in a fashion that makes male horses whimper in fear, a physical prowess like Hercules himself; and if you don’t possess game, the gimpy little chess master could thieve pussy from you if he knows it. I hate sexism, women are stupid.
            I hold many in contempt now, even a disdainful look; and the result? I often see the eyes of a woman who wants to bed me. Sad really. Much of my youth wasted on worthless women. Looking back on it now, I could have taken much better women. Instead, I took some that though many others would consider success, I would call trash now.
            I also noticed as I learned game that other men would hate on and disrespect me out of jealousy more and more. Even those in the service who outranked me. To think, they had the rank and experience I did, but quaked like virginal toddlers being thrown into battle for the first time. Truly pathetic what feminism has wrought.
            To the others, height helps, but it is overcomable. I have known of fellow gamers of short stature who had the stuff of legend. In certain situations, I had to give my overflow, and in others they in return. Yet always, they had their frame, their confidence shown through.
            Which brings me back to Napoleon, regardless of his height, he had a giant of a mind, and the charisma to boot. He conquered his foes, and demonstrated statesmanship. Two skills few men actually possess. Women are drawn to that like cats to catnip. They truly cannot resist, no matter how old the man is.

         7. Sometimes I agree with you. Others not so much. One funny thing I noticed is that even if she is not attracted to a BBall player as myself, she is curious.
            However, I think many women view a big dick like many men view big tits, nice if you got it, but not necessary to achieve climax. It helps being tall. But it also helps being smart, or good in the sack, or successful, or famous, or ..or….or…ETC. It is better if you have all of the above.
            I have come to learn that with game, sex is easy. It is finding someone you never want to leave that seems impossible.

         8. But very tall men generally have small cocks.You see, regardless of your height your organs like your heart are about the same size as some shrimp’s and it can’t pump enough blood down to the cock to enlarge it.

         9. Sure, look at the hedgehog Ron Jeremy

         10. You seem to posses a lot of experience with this. I nominate you as our resident cockologist, and will defer to your experience. Try not to hate or fantasize too much okay rainbow muncher?

7. Did a 14 year old write this? Diaries of a sexual predator…

   1. Sounds like he copied it from an old Penthouse “letters to the editor”

8. The part about butternut squash soup cracked me up. It’s tough, though, because I’ve no idea how a father of a daughter is supposed to navigate through this craziness. I don’t know much about parenting but it seems obvious to me that a parent can only do so much before the outside world starts to make its mark on a child. So yeah, I applaud the assholery here, but I feel more pity for modern American fathers of daughters than anything else.

   1. I’ve been to Muslim countries where feminism is gradually taking a foothold, and I’ve seen Muslim dads who are firm and serious and uncompromising but their daughters still end up doing what they want (and it’s often because they’re protected and concealed by the mother). It seems like American dads are simply the evolution of this phenomenon.

   2. The only intelligent solution is not to breed. As I see it, either you have a son who will be marginalized and figuratively castrated during his formative years, or you have a daughter that will turn into the girl in this piece, her behavior reinforced by Mom wanting to live vicariously and the feminists.

9. If the father was ex-military…he will rip your dick off with his bare hands like in Mortal Kombat. FINISH HIM!

   1. Its like that father who killed his daughters pimp and went to prison. Rather than re-examine her life, she simply found a new pimp.

      1. Army dad goes to prison which is true. Mafia dad is a different story…

10. Hurray for you Gold-steen, you picked the pocket of a handcuuffed man. I’ve been on both sides of this fence. I’ve been the guy shaking dad’s hand as the looks me square in the eyes and knows I’m coming off the top rope to shred (what’s left of) his daughter’s innocence.
    I could never why they obviously knew but never said shit; until I had kids.
    As an American father, the amount of say you have in your kids’ lives comes in just barely ahead of any randomly-selected stranger in another time zone. The second your parental influence ever goes beyond “whatever you like sweetie”, you can plan on answering to a whole roster of split-tailed teachers, principals, counselors, therapists,
    You having a laugh with your daughter? Fuck you, Disneyland Dad.
    You laying down the law about your daughter dressing like a street walker? Fuck you, control-freak.
    You stepping back to avoid offending anyone with a pussy? Fuck you, uninvolved

    1. says a man unconvincingly deluding himself into bein afraid of the invisible boogyman in order to avoid admitting that he is really afraid of his childs mother.

       1. Yup. Just because feminism has destroyed the mechanisms of defense for the administration of family does not mean EG is wrong.
          For a guy to get upset about this, is for him to miss the point. He never said having the balls to man up would assist you in avoiding the marriage grinder which is family court; nor did he say that those fathers who fall into it that chasitize their daughters for whoring are pussies either. You missed the point. He said nothing about family court.
          Your reaction belies a “cognitive dissonance” that I suspect you are projecting on to him. I too am also an “American Father” and have been tore up in the divorce grinder. So, my failure to see what you mean in a positive light might have something to do with your statement; and not because I will be any of the myriad of insults you might try to tag me with. However insulting his comment was, it is the truth for most American Fathers who have daughters. They let them go, and they can’t shame only the “balls deep to pound town train” machines their daughters keep dragging in off the street; and not direct their ire at their daughters as well.

       2. better to be afraid of your child’s mother than be such a weaner you can’t even have a meaningful relationship with a woman, past fucking her a few dozen times….. the only thing that feminism really changed is the men… they’re all pathetic….. come here little boy i’ll stick that red pill up your ass…

          1. “Better to be afraid of your child’s mother than be such a weaner [sic] you can’t even have a meaningful relationship w/ a woman…”
             Is that so? It’s because men fear their wives that their daughters are sluts. Real men are fearless.

          2. yeah so fearless they can’t get much further than a one night stand… i see your point…… nothing like a real masculine man huh ?

          3. Not to be on the same side as Richard W1 over here, but you’re starting to sound like a bitch. What the fuck real men have to do with women. Women serve a purpose, but if you marry one you’ll have to be a fucking strong genius to keep everything under the radar.

    2. Yeah… I agree Knuckle D…… easy to point the finger.. having a family is hard, and exhausting and it’s not like the man of the house can just cock his colt45 and impose his authority any time he pleases .. those days are long gone. Don’t bash the dads, especially if you aren’t one… they are in a pickle but they need a hand, not a fist.
       Let’s try the other side of the coin… the player flatters himself by ‘gaming’
       girls that are really just nasty sluts in the first place, and hence his
       sense of misplaced manhood, actually comes from fooling himself.
       I’d prefer to stick my dick in the unflushed toilet bowl of any night club than put it in some bitch I just met there, and I’d be less likely to catch a disease.
       Goldstein you think you’re so smart and so able to make social commentary just because you can trick some adventurous girl whose young enough to be your daughter into sucking your cock, and you think that makes you some kind of a man.
       Try manning up and supporting a family of three kids and a stay home mom. That’s a real man regardless of how his daughter behaves.
       There is nothing worse in this world than the arm chair philosopher who thinks he can pronounce judgement against things he never tried.
       In the end you’re only as good as the company you keep and clearly hanging out with two generations younger has rotten your brain sir. Try a different approach.

       1. “Try manning up and supporting a family…that’s a real man…”
          Spoken like a true manboob, castrated male feminist: believing beta providers are real men…they’re pack mules…

          1. and a guy who runs around nightclubs picking up stray sluts… yeah that’s a real man… he’s proved himself big time right ? It’s one notch up from visiting the whore house, and about the same costs.
             let’s take a look at a few family men
             Steve Jobs,
             Richard Branson
             Rupert Murdoch
             Bill Gates
             now give me a list of players with the same networth as these guys.
             yeah, i’m going to fly about the world writing a blog and fucking random sluts because i’m such a real man…..
             you little manosphere weenies wouldn’t know what real life was if it came and slapped you in the face.
             and you wouldn’t be able to handle a real woman and a real family, you’re hiding from it with all your red pill excuses.
             the only red pill you geeks need is the one with cyanide in it.

          2. You define real men as those who are professionally alpha and romantically beta. The feminine imperative has a vested interested in promoting these types of men because it serves their interests. These billionaires you named are indeed successful; but do you believe that the women they married are virtuous? Can you legitimately assure me that their wives are honest, faithful, and uncontrolling? If so, can you tell me that men today can find women like these billionaires are married too and where? Do you realize that these billionaires you named grew up in a different generation? Just because a man sleeps with club sluts, does that make him a fake man and not a real man? Notice that you believe real men are married…as though that were a criterion to being a real man. As far as contributing to society….what’s a man’s reward today to do so?

          3. Mr. Mitchell it’s not automatically beta to have a family and a wife, while any bloke can be an alpha for one night after a few vodkas and a BJ from a cheap slut. It’s maintaining that for a lifetime which is considerably harder.
             Don’t you think those men ‘created’ the women to support them, rather than flaking and throwing their hands in the air and labeling all women as bitches.
             Don’t you think the argument of the beta orbiter in the club who goes home dick in hand, (all women are bitches) sounds remarkably similar to the alpha player who has learned how to bang them but bails after that on the basis that all women are bitches.
             A woman will be controlling in absence of a strong leader… (just like any pack animal will try to take the lead). A woman will be faithful provided the man demands it and keeps her satisfied… (which doesn’t mean endless shopping trips and BS. it means nailing her a few times per week… easier to do when married, but in the long run, can become incredibly difficult).
             Do you really think that those guys could have become successful with naggy, needy, whiney controlling women to come home to.
             Read Murdoch’s biography… his ex-wife bought this huge yacht in the late 90s and parked it in the med. and tried to get him to retire… at the age of 65 odd… he turned the boat into a floating office and divorced her for a 30 year old.
             Is that alpha enough for you ?

          4. “Mr. Mitchell it’s not automatically beta to have a family and a wife, while any bloke can be an alpha for one night after a few vodkas and a BJ from a cheap slut. It’s maintaining that for a lifetime which is considerably harder.”
             No it’s not automatically beta to have a family…but it is beta to have a family that controls, manipulates, and uses you as a doormat. Why maintain a cheap slut giving you BJs for a lifetime virtuous?
             “Don’t you think the argument of the beta orbiter in the club who goes home dick in hand, (all women are bitches) sounds remarkably similar to the alpha player who has learned how to bang them but bails after that on the basis that all women are bitches.”
             No. The beta thinks women are bitches out of frustration for not being able to bang the women he wants…he thinks that betatude is a virtue and must thus be rewarded with poon; the alpha, on the other hand, may think women are sluts because of the ease and effortlessness it took him to score poon…or, he may be a “recovering beta” who’s annoyed at the true nature of women.
             “A woman will be controlling in absence of a strong leader… (just like any pack animal will try to take the lead). A woman will be faithful provided the man demands it and keeps her satisfied… (which doesn’t mean endless shopping trips and BS. it means nailing her a few times per week… easier to do when married, but in the long run, can become incredibly difficult).”
             True about the controlling aspect. False about the fidelity argument: she may meet a man she (or her hamster) considers a better mate.
             “Do you really think that those guys could have become successful with naggy, needy, whiney controlling women to come home to.”
             Who knows? We don’t live with these people. Who knows if their wives were sexing other men while their hubbies were out building industry.
             “Read Murdoch’s biography… his ex-wife bought this huge yacht in the late 90s and parked it in the med. and tried to get him to retire… at the age of 65 odd… he turned the boat into a floating office and divorced her for a 30 year old.”
             She bought that boat with his money? Why did he divorce her? Was it because she tried to get him to retire?
             “Is that alpha enough for you ?”
             This isn’t about me.

          5. there are different types of women, but most, especially when children (and successful moneybags husband) comes into the mix, will remain loyal….
             of course if you take your pick from the range of whores on offer for one nightstands in your average nightclub, you’re unlikely to find much quality… that’s a bit like picking a model of car from the rental lot at the airport…. you can’t complain when you land a hyundai instead of a bmw.
             most of the complaints that players have about women is because of the places they go looking for them…. you can’t turn over rocks in the back garden and complain you only find insects… if you want a good doe, you’ll have to go hunting in the deep forest…..
             most of the girls i’ve dated lately, some barely 20, scoff if I even mention taking them to a club which is kinda annoying because i really like deep house and techno…. but they think of clubs as something for kids and hoes…
             there are serious relationship girls out there, especially in southern europe…..
             a young girl can be brought to heel, just like a young puppy can be trained.
             a real alpha needs a min. 8 figure networth and a whole load of ambition, then family just becomes a trapping…… another accolade to add to his many accomplishments.
             the problem is that idealists plough into relationships and think the woman is on their side….
             the woman is ‘at’ your side, so long as you pick the right one, and groom her and meet her needs…..

          6. Aren’t mules sterile?

          7. But you’re a cubicle working drone accountant who wears square toed shoes.After you hand over your paltry salary to the wife you barely have a nickel in your pocket and have to ask her permission to buy a Walmart polyester sportcoat.
             And btw, those few men that you mentioned all had numerous “girlfriends”, probably Gates too.And what about the other 1k billionaires on earth? I’m sure that they all have females and that it doesn’t take any time away from their work.

          8. “you little manosphere weenies wouldn’t know what real life was if it came and slapped you in the face.
             and you wouldn’t be able to handle a real woman and a real family, you’re hiding from it with all your red pill excuses.
             the only red pill you geeks need is the one with cyanide in it.”
             BOO YAH

    3. All that’s only true among the lower classes and knuckle draggers.

11. Article lacks rigor. A for idea. D for execution.
    The American father needs to be told off, but this article fails to deliver anything other than a bunt on the topic.

12. This article reeks of bullshit. The poster goes to their house, brings mom flowers and then at the dinner table fingers the daughter? If Dad is as described that means Mom is the boss and the minute that controlling bitch saw your hand not at the 4 O’clock position hovering over the knife she would’ve either knocked you the fuck out or had you arrested for sexual assualt. Giving you the benefit of the doubt, you want us to believe you’re player enough to risk that to bring a woman pleasure with you simply getting the stink finger and satisfaction that Dad was a punk?

    1. the sound of a man whos mind and heart is absent fond memories.

       1. Agreement. I use to make a habit particularly in my teenage years, of fucking my girlfriends in their bed at the parent’s house, because most of them have never done it, and while the parents were home. The ‘gina tingles this produced were like a seismic shockwave as one can imagine. Only beta herblings don’t understand what depraved sluts their little Beckys can be when getting one over on parent’s she hasn’t respected since grade school.

13. This type of thinking is incorrect and says a lot about your level of game. Maybe the father knows that his daughter is a sexual being who likes to be fuck hard (like all women)? Maybe the father has accepted the reality that his daughter is a slut because this is natural? You little boys are so happy that you are having sex, not even knowing that it is the woman who has played you from the start!!

    1. How did the woman played us players from the start?

14. good post.
    American dads and their princess, that’s where the entitlement comes from.

15. So is “Emmanuel Goldstein” still in high school (that would explain a few things) or is this his fantasy of what modern high school is like?
    “Mansfield Park,” really? And it’s not like kids who play sports don’t read books and never have to help with chores.

16. So basically, you have no idea what American fathers should do instead, and in lieu of constructive comments are just gloating about some broad you fingered?
    I mean, hey, we’ve all been there, so good for you, but what was I supposed to get out of this?

17. Writer said: “I could tell you were a controlling yet spineless prick, that you needed me to cower before you so you wouldn’t feel threatened by me … So I played the nice guy. I shook your hand, and gave you a weak handshake. I averted your gaze, and deferred to your authority. I knew that emotionally, you needed me to be a weak, sexless male.”
    I love it how he thinks the authoritative father is weak, while, in fact, the writer is the one acting weak and submissive. Such nonsensical bullshit. Actions are what count, not the fantasies in your head.

    1. “action” means “playing the part, fucking the girl, getting the best of dad and laughing about it the whole time”.
       you present yourself in a manner that gets you what you want. even if that means presenting yourself as submissive. if you cannot dictate your own behavior to your own ends then you truly are weak. a slave to all the ideas the world instilled in you as to how you are supposed to be.

       1. Are you disagreeing with me? I can’t tell.

          1. what’s the point in fingering the girl at the lunch table in front of her father ? ( the story deserves a pinch of salt and is most likely a case of male bravado and gross exaggeration)
             what are you hoping to achieve other than accelerating the degeneration of society to the level of chimpanzees at an even faster rate.
             if you want a challenge and a thrill take up snow boarding or base jumping, or helicopter skiing, go do something truly male that doesn’t involve helping society further into the sewer…

          2. I’m with you, man.

          3. Or bungee jumping lol

    2. Actions like fucking the daughter’s brains out? Do those count?

18. hahahaha you guys are a bunch of poonanz.
    “fuck this article. lets show him our rockhard angerwood in text format. i did not like it. because i never got to do anything like this.”
    guys, remember, jerk off on the porn site, not here. thats the next tab over in case you forgot.
    or you could just do what i do and jerk off in the mirror.

19. This is High School Game. With the exception of the limp hand shake this is just how I played it. Thirty years later it still works pretty good.

    1. What you want to consider in this article is Goldstein’s mindset and inner self-assurance: this a-hole (positive) disposition will result in scores of poon…from high school chicks to college chicks to working chicks…

       1. to what end ?
          i can get very good at being a cat burglar and rob rich peoples houses silly, but what am i doing for the world ? other than feeding my own childish greed….
          who lives by the sword, dies by the sword….
          run about gaming girls, make a career out of it, eventually you’ll be that tired old player living in a one bedroom apartment at 55.
          plunge into a hefty marriage and kids, with nothing but ideals and you’ll likely end up having a mid life crisis and a huge costly divorce in your late 40s.
          the balance must lie somewhere in between…..
          perhaps knock up a peasant girl from latin america or asia, leave the family parked overseas, and go visit them once a month…. could work….

          1. “i can get very good at being a cat burglar and rob rich peoples houses silly”
             I doubt that very much, even a sucessful cat burglar has to be well trained and efficient otherwise he’s referred to as a convict.
             “eventually you’ll be that tired old player living in a one bedroom apartment at 55”
             Actually I’m a bit older and live in a 22 room house on 12 acres.Perhaps a bit large for a bachelor but what do you live in? Some ranch house with a Mazda in the garage? And just remember that the only reason that your wife keeps you around as her servant is because she’s too fugly to get anyone better.
             “perhaps knock up a peasant girl from latin america or asia”
             The females that I know from around the world are all about the same class as myself and also have advanced degrees. Why would any man go to some other place just to find a peasant when he wouldn’t do it in his own country. Only an omega loser would try that.

          2. oh well luckily your ilk won’t be adding to the gene pool anytime soon…..
             i actually manage a small hedge fund and make (and lose) what most people would consider their life savings of an afternoon…. mazda…..? i’ve always been a bmw guy, but as warren says, forget about the car.. it’s the plane that makes a difference….
             enjoy your ivory tower, i’ll enjoy my kiddies, even if their mother is a little difficult to get along with from time to time…
             it’s more of a challenge than mowing 12 acres of grass, and hob nobbing with soggy old university girls…aren’t they all feminists anyway ?

          3. Not the upper class ones, they’re about the same as they’ve always been and it’s easy to see why. The parents usually stay married and the daddy regardless of how mild mannered he appears is always an Alpha man so her impression of a man is modelled on her father, not unemployed pussy whipped Joe the Plumber. The girl is always responsible even though her parents are relatively liberal with her and are sophisticated enough to know that she’s likely having sex at a certain age. They know that she’s not going to do anything stupid and get knocked up by some lower class thug and in fact I’ve never known of one case where the girl has got knocked up so apparently they’re careful about birth control which is the female’s responsibility.All of the problems, stupidity and daddy chasing some guy with a gun lol are typically lower class. I’m a respectable man so daddy isn’t going to say anything about me shagging his 19yo daughter, besides he’s probably shagging the 18yo au pair girl. He knows that these are just harmless diversions and mean nothing.
             I don’t mow my own lawn, I have some Aztec for that.
             You know I did buy a new BMW once 30 years ago but I found it to be a piece of junk and it rode too roughly. Maybe they’ve improved since then but I think I’ll stick to the Rolls. Nice and solid like a tank so I don’t have to worry about one of Joe the Plumbers dopey kids running into me with their Mada and killing me. I have too much to live for but I guess that you don’t have that problem lol

          4. Not the upper class ones, they’re about the same as they’ve always been and it’s easy to see why. The parents usually stay married and the daddy regardless of how mild mannered he appears is always an Alpha man so her impression of a man is modelled on her father, not unemployed pussy whipped Joe the Plumber. The girl is always responsible even though her parents are relatively liberal with her and are sophisticated enough to know that she’s likely having sex at a certain age. They know that she’s not going to do anything stupid and get knocked up by some lower class thug and in fact I’ve never known of one case where the girl has got knocked up so apparently they’re careful about birth control which is the female’s responsibility.All of the problems, stupidity and daddy chasing some guy with a gun lol are typically lower class. I’m a respectable man so daddy isn’t going to say anything about me shagging his 19yo daughter, besides he’s probably shagging the 18yo au pair girl. He knows that these are just harmless diversions and mean nothing.
             I don’t mow my own lawn, I have some Aztec for that.
             You know I did buy a new BMW once 30 years ago but I found it to be a piece of junk and it rode too roughly. Maybe they’ve improved since then but I think I’ll stick to the Rolls. Nice and solid like a tank so I don’t have to worry about one of Joe the Plumbers dopey kids running into me with their Mada and killing me. I have too much to live for but I guess that you don’t have that problem lol

          5. Not the upper class ones, they’re about the same as they’ve always been and it’s easy to see why. The parents usually stay married and the daddy regardless of how mild mannered he appears is always an Alpha man so her impression of a man is modelled on her father, not unemployed pussy whipped Joe the Plumber. The girl is always responsible even though her parents are relatively liberal with her and are sophisticated enough to know that she’s likely having sex at a certain age. They know that she’s not going to do anything stupid and get knocked up by some lower class thug and in fact I’ve never known of one case where the girl has got knocked up so apparently they’re careful about birth control which is the female’s responsibility.All of the problems, stupidity and daddy chasing some guy with a gun lol are typically lower class. I’m a respectable man so daddy isn’t going to say anything about me shagging his 19yo daughter, besides he’s probably shagging the 18yo au pair girl. He knows that these are just harmless diversions and mean nothing.
             I don’t mow my own lawn, I have some Aztec for that.
             You know I did buy a new BMW once 30 years ago but I found it to be a piece of junk and it rode too roughly. Maybe they’ve improved since then but I think I’ll stick to the Rolls. Nice and solid like a tank so I don’t have to worry about one of Joe the Plumbers dopey kids running into me with their Mada and killing me. I have too much to live for but I guess that you don’t have that problem lol

          6. Not the upper class ones, they’re about the same as they’ve always been and it’s easy to see why. The parents usually stay married and the daddy regardless of how mild mannered he appears is always an Alpha man so her impression of a man is modelled on her father, not unemployed pussy whipped Joe the Plumber. The girl is always responsible even though her parents are relatively liberal with her and are sophisticated enough to know that she’s likely having sex at a certain age. They know that she’s not going to do anything stupid and get knocked up by some lower class thug and in fact I’ve never known of one case where the girl has got knocked up so apparently they’re careful about birth control which is the female’s responsibility.All of the problems, stupidity and daddy chasing some guy with a gun lol are typically lower class. I’m a respectable man so daddy isn’t going to say anything about me shagging his 19yo daughter, besides he’s probably shagging the 18yo au pair girl. He knows that these are just harmless diversions and mean nothing.
             I don’t mow my own lawn, I have some Aztec for that.
             You know I did buy a new BMW once 30 years ago but I found it to be a piece of junk and it rode too roughly. Maybe they’ve improved since then but I think I’ll stick to the Rolls. Nice and solid like a tank so I don’t have to worry about one of Joe the Plumbers dopey kids running into me with their Mada and killing me. I have too much to live for but I guess that you don’t have that problem lol

          7. Not the upper class ones, they’re about the same as they’ve always been and it’s easy to see why. The parents usually stay married and the daddy regardless of how mild mannered he appears is always an Alpha man so her impression of a man is modelled on her father, not unemployed pussy whipped Joe the Plumber. The girl is always responsible even though her parents are relatively liberal with her and are sophisticated enough to know that she’s likely having sex at a certain age. They know that she’s not going to do anything stupid and get knocked up by some lower class thug and in fact I’ve never known of one case where the girl has got knocked up so apparently they’re careful about birth control which is the female’s responsibility.All of the problems, stupidity and daddy chasing some guy with a gun lol are typically lower class. I’m a respectable man so daddy isn’t going to say anything about me shagging his 19yo daughter, besides he’s probably shagging the 18yo au pair girl. He knows that these are just harmless diversions and mean nothing.
             I don’t mow my own lawn, I have some Aztec for that.
             You know I did buy a new BMW once 30 years ago but I found it to be a piece of junk and it rode too roughly. Maybe they’ve improved since then but I think I’ll stick to the Rolls. Nice and solid like a tank so I don’t have to worry about one of Joe the Plumbers dopey kids running into me with their Mada and killing me. I have too much to live for but I guess that you don’t have that problem lol

          8. Not the upper class ones, they’re about the same as they’ve always been and it’s easy to see why. The parents usually stay married and the daddy regardless of how mild mannered he appears is always an Alpha man so her impression of a man is modelled on her father, not unemployed pussy whipped Joe the Plumber. The girl is always responsible even though her parents are relatively liberal with her and are sophisticated enough to know that she’s likely having sex at a certain age. They know that she’s not going to do anything stupid and get knocked up by some lower class thug and in fact I’ve never known of one case where the girl has got knocked up so apparently they’re careful about birth control which is the female’s responsibility.All of the problems, stupidity and daddy chasing some guy with a gun lol are typically lower class. I’m a respectable man so daddy isn’t going to say anything about me shagging his 19yo daughter, besides he’s probably shagging the 18yo au pair girl. He knows that these are just harmless diversions and mean nothing.
             I don’t mow my own lawn, I have some Aztec for that.
             You know I did buy a new BMW once 30 years ago but I found it to be a piece of junk and it rode too roughly. Maybe they’ve improved since then but I think I’ll stick to the Rolls. Nice and solid like a tank so I don’t have to worry about one of Joe the Plumbers dopey kids running into me with their Mada and killing me. I have too much to live for but I guess that you don’t have that problem lol

          9. Not the upper class ones, they’re about the same as they’ve always been and it’s easy to see why. The parents usually stay married and the daddy regardless of how mild mannered he appears is always an Alpha man so her impression of a man is modelled on her father, not unemployed pussy whipped Joe the Plumber. The girl is always responsible even though her parents are relatively liberal with her and are sophisticated enough to know that she’s likely having sex at a certain age. They know that she’s not going to do anything stupid and get knocked up by some lower class thug and in fact I’ve never known of one case where the girl has got knocked up so apparently they’re careful about birth control which is the female’s responsibility.All of the problems, stupidity and daddy chasing some guy with a gun lol are typically lower class. I’m a respectable man so daddy isn’t going to say anything about me shagging his 19yo daughter, besides he’s probably shagging the 18yo au pair girl. He knows that these are just harmless diversions and mean nothing.
             I don’t mow my own lawn, I have some Aztec for that.
             You know I did buy a new BMW once 30 years ago but I found it to be a piece of junk and it rode too roughly. Maybe they’ve improved since then but I think I’ll stick to the Rolls. Nice and solid like a tank so I don’t have to worry about one of Joe the Plumbers dopey kids running into me with their Mada and killing me. I have too much to live for but I guess that you don’t have that problem lol

20. If you feed, clothe and educate a girl into womanhood without physically or sexually abusing her, you’ve done ok. If some Jew douchebag is banging her, well, lets hope he gets through dental school, marries her and then he can deal with her. Why are so many manosphere writers expert husbands and fathers when they have made it abundantly clear that they are a) Nobody’s husband and b) Nobody’s father? Besides, the sluttiest girls I have met have had no father figures. Some of these absentee Dads need the kick in the pants, not guys who have done their best and sacrificed so much over the years.

21. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
    This is real alpha to me. As a sailor, I have said this far too many times. I have dad’s and mom’s threaten to shoot me, kill me, stab me, beat the hell outta me, or just plain stay silent as I am not a small man. As their daughters could attest.
    The fact is, I hate hearing that BS about how “I have a daughter now, so I’m investing in SmithnWesson….” garbage. If you can’t instill in your daughter not to slob knob on every dude she meets that even gives her a small inkling of attraction; why do you blame the boy?
    If I was not married, I would keep this in a word document for any break up I had. Come to think of it; I will keep this as a word document, and give it to my sons when they are older.
    If ever I have a daughter, I will make her read this when she can, and is old enough. I will also let her, and my son’s know, that if they can’t handle their business; they will learn on the frying pan of life until they get it…or not.
    Love is not a pussy, it is tough; because it only forms its bond when you and another person go through shit together. And then stay.
    That is the truly hardest thing people don’t understand today. Sex is easy, it is getting one you want to keep and being able to get rid of those you don’t that is hard! All these parents raising little monsters who think they are special because they exist. Not cool.

22. love to meet you

23. Sorry, this article is absolute rubbish. Stuff like this harms the ROK brand.

24. “Even if you did, you’d be well on your way to tossing some salad at your local state penitentiary.”
    Defining sentence of this whole garbage article. Author is a douche solely because he knows “big brother” will come save his ass.

    1. Seriously, the way the author was going, I thought he was too jacked for the father to even consider making a move, not that he was depending on Uncle Sam. Also, there is no guarantee how the cops will go about the case. My neighbor beat the shit out of his daughters boyfriend, and he, his wife, and daughter all claimed it was self-defense. Cops came over and asked me if he showed any signs of anger issues or anything like that, and I told him he was a great neighbor (guy snow blows my driveway and sidewalk every winter). Charges were never filed. I was just really stunned by the whole thing because it was an Asian family and my impression of the guy was that he was beta as hell. Guys with yellow fever need to be on their guard around todays Asian dads and not act like OP, or you will get your ass handed to you.

25. 21 years ago I recall being walked off the property of a young woman I loved “at gun point” I was told by the father that his daughter was to good for ARMY dog that I was and still am. I never went back, until I was re-stationed there several years ago. The whole incident was nothing but a faint memory that played in my head from time to time. After 3 wars and many other actions I have enough rattling about in there. Then by chance the check out woman at a local store was the woman I had loved all those years ago. She had 5 kids from 3 different men and was divorced two times. I was kind and polite and I could tell she was upset at the sever disservice her father had done to not only me but her was well. Her shift was about done and her father who was now quite old was picking her up from the market. I stood there under the street light in full view as her father pulled up in his ratty old pick up. We made eye contact for a few seconds he saw my rank “command SGT major” and his head went low. He was ashamed, I have seen that look in countess faces across 3 wars and all the contents on earth. Fate has a way of paying back unkindness and is usually very brutal about it.
    Bottom line people are people, they will do what they do! Male female, son daughter. I have watched my own daughters drive off to do what I use to do all those years ago. All I can say about it is this “i AM DAM GLAD TO BE ONE DAY CLOSER TO THE GRAVE AND ON MY WAY OUT THEN UP”

26. Make sure you’re there as a father to counteract the dangers of feminist conditioning. Even see that show where they went around asking prisoners what they thought of their dads? Most of them didn’t even have a father at home. You need a male presence to be functional and normal.

27. OMG! :O What kind of a jerk wrote this article? o.O

28. Very adolescent point of view to this “article” and the tone is laughably melodramatic. Besides, in half or more real life situations, if there is a dad of some sort in the girl’s house at all, he is just as likely a stepdad. And we all know (well, those who are grown men anyway) how difficult it is to be a formative force in your kids’ lives if you only have them every other weekend. Clearly, marriage to an American woman is generally a chump move in our current societal setup.

29. Very adolescent point of view to this “article” and the tone is laughably melodramatic. Besides, in half or more real life situations, if there is a dad of some sort in the girl’s house at all, he is just as likely a stepdad. And we all know (well, those who are grown men anyway) how difficult it is to be a formative force in your kids’ lives if you only have them every other weekend. Clearly, marriage to an American woman is generally a chump move in our current societal setup.

30. Love how this manly man goes full on pussy if dad were ever to redecorate the house with his face. No different than a woman who thinks she can beat up her BF because he’s not stupid enough to hit her back.

31. As a dad, there is a fine line. You have to set them up for a little failure when their still innocent, and I know it sounds mean, but you want them to fail and bear the consequences. My dad did it to his kids, and before he died he explained it to me in case I decide to have kids.
    By getting the lesson that decisions have consequences at a very (very) young age into the female skull repeatedly, you help mitigate the worst problems. My sisters lost their virginity at 19 and 20 respectively, and I was shocked. I thought younger had at least blown one boyfriend before that, but she maintained control.
    I will forever remember how my dad greeted the prospective suitor of his daughters. Should I ever have daughters, I’ll do the same. My dad was very intelligent, he worked as a machinist, but read Machiavelli. The wiseass would show up, and my dad would be in the garage. My sister would bring the boy to him (deference) and he would be busy, and not look up initially. He wasn’t tall, only 5’10” (I’m 6’1″), but he had an imposing presence. He wasn’t a large, muscular man, stringy muscles, long lean muscles. This was the setup, without ever looking at the boy, he’d shake hands. This is a man that could crack nuts barehanded, and one more trick, thick calluses that absorbed a LOT of heat. So after absentmindedly crunching the boys hand, he’d offer to let him hold something he was working on. He’d pick up a hot piece of metal, and hand it to him. After the boy invariably dropped it, usually squelching a scream, he’d have me pick it up and tell his daughter “You’ll be reasonably safe, your little brother is tougher than him.” right in front of her date.
    Finally he’d look at the guy, and tell him in no uncertain terms, “I don’t control her, she makes up her own mind. That being said, you force her to do anything and I think you can guess that I won’t have to do anything because her little brother is tougher than you are.”

32. Wow. Pretty intense post.

33. It’s too bad I did not see this when was written. The problem here is that we have a mix of the totally ignorant, reading the half ignorant and total fuck ups giving everyone advice based on their being failures.
    Dudes never take advice from losers. When a guy says he was a father and his girls can not be controlled, he is a loser. So are guys who end up divorced against their will.Yes they failed. Do you guys take advice on picking up woman, from guys who can’t get laid in a Mexican whore house with $1000 in their pocket? I dare say, no you don’t.
    I have been on both sides of that table. I saw what was wrong with the fathers whose little girls were sluts (the mom usually was as well). And I learned from the fathers whose little girls were keepers. I raised a keeper who was well aware of what was going on around her. Yes I did what fathers do. I raised her, I educated her. Some of you guys would think of her as a unicorn. So what did I do when a player set across the table from me? It never happened, she wasn’t that stupid. She tamed the top dog in town and married him young. Girls have winning strategies for life and losing strategies. Fathers help them learn what works and what fails. Good fathers, we picked good woman, raise good woman and real men. We don’t let pop culture beat us.
    I’m not going to say a good man would never need to deal with a punk. But only a fool would talk about how to handle that situation. You just do it and don’t talk about it.

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