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How To Be An Appropriate Slut

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Recently, a female wrote to Christian and I inquiring about something that is often asked of men like ourselves. Let’s call her Kim. The full text of the email is pasted for your reading enjoyment:

Dear Christian McQueen and Law Dogger,

I thought about sending this to Roosh, but the form requirement of saying that I “agree that most feminists are ugly” seemed a bit petty.  Thus, I’m addressing it to the two of you, since I’m most familiar with your names from reading ROK.

As a female and a regular reader (I know, women aren’t supposed to be allowed, but it’s way too fascinating to pass up), I frequently notice two different points being made, namely:

1. Seek out hot girls who are DTF and if you don’t close, move on.
2. A girl’s value decreases as the number of guys she bangs increases.

It follows that I have a question; what’s a girl to do? The two hardly seem reconcilable.

I’m sure you’re very busy men, but if you get around to answering, I’d be interested in the information.

Best,
Kim

The answer is quite simple actually and while it may vary from guy to guy, I can at least provide a basic framework by which a girl can present herself in the most favorable light to a red pill man she desires.  Let’s address each of her perceived mutually exclusive points in turn.

Your Fucking Of Me

The first prong of Kim’s inquiry focuses on how fast a girl would have sex with a guy, aka the DTF level (DTF = down to fuck for clarity). This will be guy-dependent, as some guys can handle a girl who sleeps with them on the first meet (such as myself), and others automatically place them in a non-recoverable slut category. My advice: the first date.

This ties into the second prong, but if you fuck on the first date as opposed to the first meet, it gives most men the appearance that it was the guy rather than the circumstance that led to the fucking. With a same night bang you could have just been horny, drunk, angry at an ex, who knows. A first date bang differs slightly however. There is no heat of the moment (at least in the beginning), you are letting this guy work on you, and in the end if you fuck it is more correlated to him personally than the situation. In other words, he won’t feel like if he didn’t hit on you at the bar, you would have just fucked the next guy with decent style and game.

Now let’s say the first meet is at a bar, how are you to act? Spend time with him, be very interested, maybe allow a quick fingering to get your jollies off if you are super horny, but do NOT under any circumstances go home with him and then not fuck him. That is just selfish, as you are taking him out of the sea of fish with no reward. And nothing builds more resentment for a girl than having her on your bed and her not willing to have sex. You may think you are helping your cause by acting innocent, but he will secretly start hating you a little.

On the flip side, never wait longer than the 2nd date. In these times, you are replaceable. For every girl that won’t put out, another one will much quicker and she will be younger and hotter than you. And if you wait for the second date, the first date should have included a blow job.

Now everything is not black and white and these are not hard line rules. The more traditional you are and make yourself out to be, the more likely it is that you do not ding yourself in the eyes of the man for holding out longer. I’ve waited 5-7 dates with Ukrainian and Russian girls before because some of them actually can compensate with real female qualities—they cooked, cleaned, wore heels everywhere, and so on. Or if you look like this girl, most guys will happily wait a few extra dates. Or perhaps you give terrific blowjobs.

There are endless factors to consider, but for the typical American girl which I’m guessing Kim represents, date one is a good benchmark to use.

Your Fucking Of Others

This is so incredibly simple it really boggles my mind every time a girl does not get it. Kim states that a “girl’s value decreases as the number of guys she bangs increases.”  This is a very true statement. But…how does the guy know how many other guys you’ve banged? Only one way, you told him either directly or indirectly.

Directly. Recently I slept with a girl who thought it was cool to talk about all her sexual exploits. She included such gems as:

  • She gets naked when she drinks tequila, then proceeds to tell me how much tequila she’s been drinking the past few weeks
  • How she’s been practicing her blowjob skills
  • About how “wild” she was in high school
  • How she ended up in bed with her friend and another guy one night recently
  • How she slept with another guy quicker than I because she thought of me as a potential boyfriend (**Warning** Never tell a guy you slept with another guy quicker.)

Most of this came after we had sex, and it quickly threw her out of the rotation. As much as we already know how slutty girls are these days, we don’t need to be given direct evidence of the same. Have some damn class.

Indirectly.

Some girls accidentally, or maybe purposefully, hint at how slutty they are.  This includes:

  • Talking about how you are not “like that” anymore
  • Having one or more condoms on you at any time
  • Having a box of condoms by your bed
  • Referencing “walks of shame”
  • Discussing your friends’ sexual promiscuity
  • Fielding texts and messages from other guys in front of us

All of these are easily handled. Don’t talk about your sexual past, even if he is dumb enough to ask. If you are insistent on condoms and the guy doesn’t ‘have one with him that’s his fault. Put your damn phone away during the time you are with him.

Summary

This just touches upon this one question regarding the speed of sex vs. the history of partners. It does not touch upon an array of other important factors that may influence a man’s decision to keep a girl around (i.e. personality) but that was not part of the question posed. It also assumes you are dealing with men like us, not beta guys who will be shocked at first date sex, care about your educational accomplishments or seek out your sexual past because they think knowing is better.

What is the one thing that most girls instinctively say during a drunken one night stand?  “I’ve never done this before!” Now even though that’s complete bullshit why do girls almost always say this? Because even subconsciously they know that a slutty past is a disqualifier and so this is a last-ditch attempt to preserve that chaste image.

Most of the red pill aware men already assume you are a huge slut. The last time I asked a girl how many guys she’s been with was 2004 and there is a reason for that. There is always a tiny bubble of thought in our minds that while overwhelmed with knowledge and experience to the contrary, still holds on to the ideal that some girls can be good girls. Men are the romantics and we want to be proven wrong; that maybe just maybe you are different. If you come right out and negate this scintilla of hope we have for today’s females, it serves to only substantiate everything we have come to know.

So to answer Kim’s question, the two points are easily reconcilable. A girl can be relatively DTF (aka doesn’t have to be fucking you in the bathroom stall of the club within 30 minutes) and at the same time not broadcast her sexual past, assuming—likely correctly—that she has an extensive one. It really is that simple.

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218 thoughts on “How To Be An Appropriate Slut”

  1. i get the feeling this site overlooks an important point: sluts are not to be honored! they are corrupted, used and expendable women. yes they provide a quick fix when you’re aching to bust a nut, but holy shit could we instead of issuing tips on how to be a proper slut, actually effing discourage women from being sluts?! yes there would be less ONSs, but could you really argue that society as a whole wouldn’t be better off with women who actually know their place? it’s all about short-term vs long-term gratification, and we as men have the duty to protect what we’ve built(goddamn civilisation) from these short-sighted simpletons with a vag

    1. Fuck the sluts in America for fun and ONSs and when or if you’re ready to settle down, marry a virgin/innocent girl overseas. Problem solved. Plus, foreign women make better mothers because most of them are not fat, not lazy, and not feminazis

    2. The biggest source of frustration for a guy that actually doesn’t mind being in a relationship is that there’s no telling what you’re getting from the onset. The whole player/PUA lifestyle has become somewhat of a forced life, because intuitively you know that you can’t commit in any way, shape, or form to these women. However, at the same time, a man has to receieve some sort of compensation for his efforts, which means pulling the trigger on sex with less than stellar women. The idea of having a steady relationship (not talking marriage here) doesn’t turn me off in the same way it does many redpill men, but it’s simply an impossibility with the quality spectrum I have at my disposal. They really need to invent a Ho-Fax report.
      For the most part, I view sluts like gas station hot dogs- I only want one when I’m drunk off my ass at 3:00 in the morning and there’s nothing else available… and even then, I usually regret it.

    3. +10000.
      One of the greatest lies of feminism was that making women more slutty would lead to more sex for beta males.
      Instead, the sluttification of women lead to more excuses for women to throw themselves at alpha males, undermining the family, femininity, and women’s relationships at the same time. Betas got less sex because women were busy throwing themselves at men who would never commit to them regardless.
      Alphas have more masculine, less feminine women to choose from. All men have to deal with the damage that too many cocks does o women, and betas get less sex than ever.
      Time to discourage splutters for the good of everybody.

      2. Now imagine that a guy states
        “Thanks God for the sexual revolution”
        Same guy, sex partners in the last three years, 0.
        Zero.
        So disillusioned they are.

    4. Great point….the ruling elite class (1%) is brainwashing the weaker willed sex (female) by promoting money and moral free lifestyle otherwise known as Moral Justification.
      Oh and by the way Moral Justification is one of the 4 pillars of Satanism.
      So there you go, the ruling class is using Satanism to lure good girls into becoming depraved whores in order to break down men’s morals…which seems to be working.
      The solution for men is to learn Natural Law and Free Will and learn to live morally right. Not accepting morally wrong women.
      Don’t have ONS with single mothers
      Don’t play games with girls
      Be a man with good morals
      Don’t steal ( money, time) from ANYONE
      Live with good morals and free will and you will be FREE.

      1. What?!?!? Dont play games with women? Dont fuck hot single mothers?
        Good luck with that.
        I dont believe in satanism but Ill fuck a hot satan bitch.

        3. Enthusiasm for life is frequently ridiculed by culture. Those
          who are excited by the wonder and beauty of our world are in
          danger of understanding how much they are worth. This is not
          something that culture can allow.

    5. Nah, sluts qua sluts are fine. Sluts that conceal who they are to elicit commitment? Caveat emptor. The rest is just personal angst over lost opportunities. When you get right down to it, no one cares about civilization, it is just one of those things that happened while people were acting in their own interest and the alternative was a life that was solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short. Running water and cathredrals are nice and all but they don’t have shit to do with me or sluts or whomever is fucking them.

    6. girls should be either 2 things. Either be the chaste long term wife or be the slut,you cant be both. You cant slut it up then be a wife,pick one and roll with it.
      But for those inbetween heres my tips
      if under 30(which is marriageable child bearing years), keep your honest number of partners at maximum at 10.Cause anything over that is a lot of guys and sends up red flags on whats wrong with you(not just std concerns). Well be wondering all those many guys didnt want to stick around and what youre doing thats not worth commiting too(weird dumb wornout vajbox cant bond emotionally with partner and just see him as number etc).Who you been with and how many says alot about you.
      The one that had few men(usually long term) are the safe,stable and loyal investments and are seen as the smart ones that know how to pick a good mate and know how to keep a man happy(nurturing and affectionate instinct signals being a good mother to your children).
      better to be with a girl that did 100 positions with 1 man then a girl thats done 100 guys in 1 position.
      when it comes to sex dont “time cockhold” the potential bf to pull him in and withhold certain sex acts that you did with previous lovers. Treat it the same. Otherwise hell hate you that you made him work and wait for sex when you gave it easier to someone else(its also insulting and hurtful that he wasnt good enough despite being the “better guy”).Plus gets the guy thinking if the “lousy bad guy” doesnt stick around or wanted her then neither should I. its Merely rewarding bad behaviour.
      So if you have a 2 date rule. Stick to it. Dont make the “good guy” wait a month and give him mediocre sex while you gave the “bad boy jerk” the SNL and did everything in the book. Hell feel betrayed and used. If it doesnt work out before your “sex date” just cut him loose. Otherwise these “good men” will try to emulate the “bad boy” and will be harder to find quality men. Reward good men not the bad ones.(because of this thats how “game” and seduction got started)
      also be honest with your sex number and your life, because the longer things go and things get serious, itll get very ugly when the truth EVENTUALLY comes out. Honesty is key, and nothing stays hidden. If he cant handle it from the beginning,best to cut it loose or keep it casual then later on when more emotions are invested(plus time would be wasted when you could find someone thats cool with it)
      happy hunting girls

  2. “So to answer Kim’s question, the two points are easily reconcilable. A
    girl can be relatively DTF (aka doesn’t have to be fucking you in the
    bathroom stall of the club within 30 minutes) and at the same time not
    broadcast her sexual past, assuming—likely correctly—that she has an
    extensive one. It really is that simple.”
    Indeed. Discretion is the better part of valor.

  3. it doesn’t really reconcile anything, especially from the man’s point of view….
    what you are saying is you prefer sluts to lie to you and pretend to be good girls…. and that men should prefer that….
    what’s the point of saying high notch count is less able to commit…. if a.) you are banging them in ONS and b.) you are telling them to lie about it….
    you are also missing out on a salient point of female psychology in that they love to share their exploits (or lack thereof) and this is a great way to assess them for anything beyond a first date.

    1. I guess what he’s saying amounts to a “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy. That can work and most people do adopt it subconsciously or consciously. Sort of like embassies being there for “diplomatic relations” when actually we all know it’s about espionage and covert stuff, and it becomes “I know that you know that I know that you know …”
      If your concern is that this amounts to teaching bitches to lie, I think they know how to do that very well already when it suits them. Every red pill man knows (or should know) that they do and will lie and obfuscate, and we better approach any kind of relationship with women with the assumption that they can be manipulative conniving bitches at any time.
      So here’s my two maxims for dealing with chicks which I coined just now:
      1. Don’t ask, don’t tell.
      2. She’s guilty until proven innocent.

    2. I read the email as a question from a girl looking for a relationship wondering how to reconcile the idea that being a slut is a bad thing while at the same time saying you should next girls for not being a slut. A girl looking for ‘fun’ isn’t going to care about her value diminishing the more guys she bangs unless she wants to ‘settle down’ later. In which case the sort of ‘dont ask don’t tell’ approach advocated in this article serves to help girls to downplay/conceal their lower relationship, making it even tougher for guys to make a solid choice.
      That a girl may be immediately discarded for not being DTF is down to the fact that the guy didn’t want a relationship in the first place, which from the girls perspective should be a good thing to know up front. A guy, who from the outset only wants sex, should be out of the picture for a woman who is looking for a relationship. Getting instanexted for not putting out saves everyone time and energy and avoids wasting resources and emotions.
      From the guy’s perspective, assuming every girl is slutty until proven otherwise is probably the way to go. To a guy who is open to long term relationships, a girl who isn’t DTF, and is so for the more traditional reason of wanting more evidence of commitment, is signalling that she might be worth a look and thus shouldn’t be nexted immediately. Obviously you aren’t going to dive in headlong, but if you indeed are open to longer term relationships I don’t understand why one would advocate nexting any girl who isn’t DTF. It’s different if you’ve committed to being a player for life of course.
      For a man who has no interest in LTR, and a woman who feels likewise, this article makes sense.

      1. Your points are well taken. I would like to add that assuming every guy is just DTF until proven otherwise is probably the way to go for girls too. Esp. for girls looking for something serious. If a girl has to earn you as her king, then you should have to earn her as your queen. Right?

  4. Ladies, pay attention to this article as it makes some excellent points.
    Let me add a few.
    Men only want a girl to be a slut for them, not for every other guy. To achieve this:
    – Swallow his cum. There are two types of women – women who hate swallowing cum and women who are in loving relationships
    – Have a gag reflex and don’t be shy to show it off by deep throating your beau until you choke. Men love that kind of passion and drive
    – Avoid obvious slut tells like tattoos, piercings and black lingerie. Instead wear white, then bang his brains out. Contrast is key here – you’ll make a stronger impression if he wasn’t expecting a slut from first sight
    – Tell him he is the first man to make you cum. This is about the nicest thing a girl can say to a man

      1. Are you still clinging to the Madonna/whore fallacy? Every girl has a slut inside her – it is up to us red pill men to release that slut for our own enjoyment. Or are you still hoping to land a corn-fed low lifetime notch proper christian farm girl?

        1. my point was merely that sluts are gonna be sluts either way, so there’s little need for tips’n’tricks from us. seems kinda weird to promote traditional values and then turn around and provide help to the very people we claim to be fighting against. cause there isn’t much room for family values in a slut.

        2. you know you are a fag when you read too much manosphere, learn new terms, and become a sheep without indipendent thought feeling the need to divulgate other’s world views (markmanson, clueless angry bitch).
          Drudge is right, and you just want to live your life in a narcissistic delusional way, thinking you are the entitled princess and having women and people in general pulling your legs

  5. Women were sluts in the past, but hid it better out of respect for social mores. in addition, times were harder in the past, so sexual escapades were not as much a priority as surviving. The men really were needed for their survival, rather than forced government extraction from males to give to females and their kids. This had been the bedrock of a stable society the world over for many thousands of years.
    Modern society has the zionists encouraging sluttiness to degrade society, and most people being followers, have jumped aboard en-masse. This was great for earlier generations (boomers), but recently, we have seen the fallout of such sluttiness, such as single motherhood and a broken society. Also, modern conveniences have encouraged whore-dom; as apparently ‘I don’t need a man’, even though men have built/refurbish pretty much everything a society needs to run.
    Considering how the breakdown of the family unit has seen an increase in power of the police state/bankers/government, it was clear that generations of wisdom clearly dictated that a family unit was the most stable way for people to live their lives (though not necessarily the most fun). Instead, now we have a society where the state thinks it owns all the children, the parents don’t (definately not fathers) and everything is all messed up ,headed towards totalitarianism. That’s why they now spring upon us the TSA groping, attack on personal rights, mass NSA spying (as we are all potential terrorists to the uber-rich thieves) etc… If i get any downvotes, its probably because hired shills, like Obama’s hired 3500 cyberwhores, must tear down this post so normal service can resume and we can all head to our slavery in a nice, obedient fashion.
    Did I mention they shipped many homeless to the FEMA concentration camp in the Carolinas recently?

    1. Not trying to be a smartass, genuinely asking, but how are the zionists encouraging sluttiness? In fact, what are zionists? Ardent Israelis?

      1. If you look at who owns the Western banks, you will know them primarily as the Western international banking cabal and their adherents. They ‘own’ the West (that is up for debate) via their usurious banks (have you seen many big bankers arrested since the financial crisis) and their strategy/policy/NGO think-tank groups. They have a connection with Israel, but do not represent all ‘Joozzz’.

        2. Lol. This dude seriously needs to get off the Net for a lil while.
          “western banks” are pretty much “owned” by their shareholders and often many of them are the banks employees. So, they have a vested interested in running a successful business that typically involves providing efficient and successful products and services to their customers.
          So, um yeah. Most of the bank execs I know are kinda busy doing that and not attending meetings of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. Running successful multi-billion dollar corporations doesnt leave a whole lot of time left for planning world domination.
          Does this Seth dude ever get laid?

        3. Nah man it is definitely lizardmen. They distribute fluoride in the water in Rothschild strongholds so that the NWO can work with them to……plane overhead, got to check for chemtrails. Dammit, where’d I put my tinfoil.

        4. You’re an idiot. Also, posting as a guest shows a lack of accountability and balls. Did your friends give you all those upvotes? You just discredit by character assasination without knowing me troll. Shut up.

    2. One thing you’re missing.
      Back in the day, the punishment for being a slut was particularly harsh.
      There was no government handouts for single mothers. No free housing for idiots.
      A woman who was caught cheating became a low paid maid (and had her children live in poverty etc).
      I am sure there was also less screwing men for half their money if they were previously married (or screwing them for child support).

      1. A low paid maid was one of a slut’s better options. Physical harm and even death was common, especially in other countries and societies

    3. gimme a break with the zionist conspiracy. you know why most people, men and women, fuck around as much as they can? because it gives them great bodily pleasure. noone had to push them into coitus through some convoluted conspiracy, they jumped in (hehe) all by themselves. use your common sense man.

      1. When you see feminazism and its effects, along with other things going on domestically and worldwide, it is clear this group have denigrated the culture to their advantage. It is something that needs to be researched. I will not answer further, because the points I have made are all well-researched and logical, and because as soon as you post something like this, it is always a torrent of anti-poster comments from those on the Zionist-banker payroll, who want to keep everyone in their ignorance as they push forward their plans.

        1. oh come on seth..feminists want more for women and less for us men. every single king or political party that came to power proceeded to immediately: 1.get rid of the competition and 2.enact laws that strengthen their hold on the seat of power. it’s not surprising that feminist agendas are anti-male, since the two genders are fighting over pieces of the same pie. yes feminism has – maybe irreparably – damaged the world, but they did it out of self-interest, and not to promote some shady assholes. geez. logical points indeed. d’oh!

        2. A minority view, does not make it wrong. Oftentimes, history has proven the minority to be right. And the majority ignore this view to the detriment of all. You are addressing feminism, without addressing political Zionism – and without researching and addressing this, your arguments hold no muster.

        3. Before Snowden went public with his evidence, mass surveillance was also considered a conspiracy at one point.
          Now that the truth is out, everyone of course has always known it.

        4. All you’re doing is making it easier to link anti-feminism with Nazism in the eyes of our enemies.
          “Ohhhh, you hate feminists! That’s because you also hate the Jewwwws! I’ll bet if it were up to youuuuu, there’s be another Holocaust! Yeah, I’m on to you, you goose-stepping Neo-Nazi bastards!”
          So yeah….way to go, ace. Keep up the good work.

        5. LOL! That’s absolutely true. Before Galileo, everyone KNEW the Earth was flat, and he was killed for his (at the time) heretic views. Now after it’s been proven beyond a doubt that the Earth is actually round (or spherical, to be more accurate), everyone has “always” KNOWN it 😉

      2. Feminism has done the most damage. There is no more fundamental yet delicate relationship in society than male and female. On it depends the family, the red blood cell of society. Nobody with the interests of society at heart would try to divide men and women. Yet the lie that men have exploited women has become the official orthodoxy.
        Man loves woman. His first instinct is to nurture (“husband”) and see her thrive. When a woman is happy, she is beautiful. Sure, some men are abusive. But the vast majority have supported and guided their families for millennium.
        Feminists relentlessly advance the idea that our inherent male and female characteristics, crucial to our development as human beings, are mere “stereotypes.” This is a vicious calumny on all heterosexuals, 95% of the population. Talk about hate! Yet it is taught to children in elementary schools! It is echoed in the media. Lesbians like Rosie O’Donnell are advanced as role models.
        All of this is calculated to create personal confusion and sow chaos among heterosexuals. As a result, millions of American males are emasculated and divorced from their relationship to family (the world and the future.) The American woman has been hoodwinked into investing herself in a mundane career instead of the timeless love of her husband and children. Many women have become temperamentally unfit to be wives and mothers. People, who are isolated and alone, stunted and love-starved, are easy to fool and manipulate. Without the healthy influence of two loving parents, so are their children.
        Feminism is a grotesque fraud perpetrated on society by its governing elite. It is designed to weaken the American social and cultural fabric in order to introduce a friendly fascist New World Order. Its advocates are sanctimonious charlatans who have grown rich and powerful from it. They include a whole class of liars and moral cripples who work for the elite in various capacities: government, education and the media. These imposters ought to be exposed and ridiculed.
        – See more at:
        http://www.savethemales.ca/180302.html

      3. No shit. This Seth dude just fucking parrots the same old whiny manosphere / political / conspiracy theory drivel and then re-writes it like some pimple faced college kid trying to submit a plagiarized paper. This douche sounds beta as fuck like all Indian dudes (which he admitted he was). Trying to “alpha-up” by posting TL:DR comments over and over doesnt really work too well..
        Seriously, anyone that worrys about how many “upvotes” they get on their RoK comments needs some help that this (or any other) blog aint gettin him.

    4. “Modern society has the zionists encouraging sluttiness” Oh noes, it’s da joozzz again.

      1. That was quick. So you work for Obama and gave yourself 2 upvotes. Plus your name is ‘anonymous’. Wow, you must be a regular reader of this site. Plus your comment has no intellectual content, it is merely designed to short-circuit people’s thinking and get them to feel guilt so they’d agree with you, a time-honored tactic. Its not all joozzz, just Zionists. Seeing as you don’t come here often and have nothing to contribute with your ‘ridicule to discredit the argument comment’ -Get lost.

        1. actually i gave him one upvote cause his joozz comment made me chuckle. now please tell me how i’m secretly (even to myself) employed by the nsa or something. careful with that paranoia, buckaroo..

        2. Speaks about short-circuiting people’s thinking…blames the zionists for all the worlds problems. A time-honored tactic, indeed. I also love your baseless assumption that every ROK reader is a US citizen.

        6. you said “and gave yourself 2 upvotes”. i merely pointed out that i had given one of the two upvotes, so as to better illustrate that your paranoia is unjustified.

        7. There’s that word, paranoia… Are you a joo? Zionism does not encompass all jooz. But seeing as you use this word to discredit the individual, so others won’t see the logic of the argument presented. Hiding behind a keyboard, we can’t prove anything as to your credibility.

        8. ditto. but unlike you, i don’t live my life petrified that some shady faction will use nefarious tactics to slowly take over the planet. what the heck is this, a james bond movie? i’m too level-headed to believe in cartoonish stereotypes.

        9. There’s more discrediting language again. You are not a real man. Otherwise you wouldn’t resort to ‘shaming language’. Please do us all a favour and shut up.

        10. Zionizm is a political philosophy built on the defeatist idea that Jews could never live normally in Europe. It has nothing to do with feminism whatsoever. Actually, I’m not even sure that feminism had anything to do with misandry whatsoever, no one has made a convincing argument that gold-diggers and other various opportunistic manipulative women are in academic feminists or influenced by them. Female initiated divorce and no desire to procreate is instead directly correlated to economic development, so it is fair to blame the banking system for that.
          Its true that the political elite did have ulterior motives for feminism and that many/most counter-cultural thinkers were and are Jews, but they can hardly splice open female DNA and insert something not there already, so no need to overstate the effect.

        2. We need to spread the real TRUTH…
          RoK is a great start to educate men on Natural Law and the consequences of being morally wrong by following orders (Police officers, Soldiers etc..)
          There is a CODE for humanity to live by just like the Law of Gravity. If you ignore it you will fall.

  6. So basically, in effect you are encouraging her to fuck as many men as possible, and to deceive any man stupid enough to attempt to create a family with her about her ability to have anything resembling a long lasting intimate bond.
    Why? Why would you tell her things like this?

    1. I’m interpreting what he’s saying as “You’re gonna be a slut anyway if that’s what you want, so at least do it with some style, and allow us a little suspension of disbelief for comfort”. We shouldn’t be under any illusions about their true nature though, whether we ‘teach them to deceive’ or not. They have done that since the beginning of time, and will do that as long as human nature remains what it is..
      There is indeed a certain difficulty we all struggle with, to reconcile wanting sluts for varied and satisfying sex, and wanting a faithful partner for something long term (for those who are or will be looking for it).

      1. and that benefits us red-pillers, since we know the truth anyway. but spare a thought for the remaining 97% of men who will be lulled into a sense of security by these deceitful bitches. how can we say we’re against divorce-rape and the like, if we actively arm the competition to better fight our lesser brethren?

        1. Yes, you absolutely have a point.
          In the balance of things though, I’d say (or hope) that we are doing far more good by spreading red pill knowledge, than the possible harm of something like this… bearing in mind that whether we talk about it in these terms or not, women will keep on deceiving anyway.

        2. i agree with the law thing. however, bear with me: less men would fall pray to these unfair laws if less men got married. less men would get married if less men fell under the spell of deceitful bitches. less men would fall under the spell of deceitful bitches if said bitches could not hide their sluttiness. so why are we helping them hide their whorish nature by giving them pointers? that was my original point.

        6. 3% of what? Manosphere losers? Ugh. Enjoy your games, little boys. We’re taking back the world “slut.” We have fucking marches. We’re proud of it. We’ll fuck whoever – whenever – we want. If you don’t behave yourselves, we might just give you the gory details. Or we might do it anyway, just for fun. So yeah. k.
          I’m affirmed. Are you?
          ~Desiree

        9. being a slut is nothing to be proud of. That’s like me saying I’m taking back the word “nigger” so I’m proud to be a nigger. Makes zero sense.
          There was a time when sex was between one woman and one man. Now that all manner of promiscuity and degeneracy (current hookup and homo culture) is allowed, society has suffered for it. Men may fuck you, but they damn sure don’t respect you. By the way this is why you are a slut… women do not under any circumstance “fuck” you GET “fucked.” Get mad at mother nature for being sexist.
          But hey, you do what you want. Don’t say I didn’t warn you.

        10. Youre all just bitter because weve taken back control of our lives, our bodies, our choices. We no longer need to carry your children, marry your arses, live in your houses, survive off your income. We can create it ourselves, your value is in the strength of your character, providing an income is no longer enough. You now know what its like to be disposable.

        11. Woman fuck the same way as you do, we know in 2 seconds whether your going to be a dumb fuck or not, now its men and women playing the same game.

    2. The formula of pure women and player men would work only if there were way fewer men than women! but we are 50-50 ,we need to accept “sluts” ,why so serious?, sex is also a pleasure, not just about family, at least many people want it.

    3. why the fuck do you even post here if the only phaggotry you care about is being a good betaprovider and ensuring that women in today’s society act like a good 50s wife? Are you one of those gay tryhard fags who force themselves to be assholes while they are actually dreaming of a betaproviding boring life? Actually, I suspect most of the fags on the manosphere are actual frustrated chumps reverse-pedestalizing the pussy in the hope of increasing their own value. What the fuck? You even got 14 likes. I like sluts, I’m sick of ltrs. I want every woman to stop lying to themselves and just fuck the good looking guys and the high status alphas, and use the beta fags like you in the way they do. This is the true redpill. It’s not some homosexual feminist-fighting thinking that today’s society is much different from how it should be / it has been (fake-nostalgic nazi fags anyone?). The true redpill is letting go of beta instincts and to recognize every emotion that comes out of neediness and fear, mostly due to being unrespected and a nobody in society / your everyday life and social circle, hence having the instinct of bending over to others because you are afraid of their responses to you + you think it entitles you to being treated better or to receive free resources in exchange. Things are fine the way they are

      Everything Is Amazing Right Now And Nobody’s Happy


      I advocate sluttiness, hypergamy and promiscuity (which is natural). Promiscuity is much more real than hypergamy, actually. Historically orgies were the rule, there wasn’t such thing as “looking for the better partner” or beta shit like that post-agriculture post-marriage. Orgies and sex for everyone deserving it. If you aren’t getting them, either recognize you are subhuman genetic trash or just do something to change your fucking situation. In the actual world, almost nobody is undeserving of sex, and lots has to do with how you can sell yourself and what you have. A midget or a down-syndrome can be an alpha too, unbelievably.

      1. I agree with you to an extent. Feminism has given men a wide variety of sluts to have your pick from but this came with the destruction of marriage and LTR’s because at the end of the day you can never turn a hoe into a housewife.
        Sure it can be fun fucking sluts from high school to well into your 30’s but don’t you think it’ll get old? How many STD and pregnancy scares would you want to go through? Just when you think about settling down, you can’t because of the rampant sluttiness, hypergamy and promiscuity.

    4. Woman nawadays are incapable of creating-maintaining a family unit let alone having a long lasting intimate bond therefore the player lifestyle is the only option unless you want to get divorce raped or raise a thug’s spawn

      1. No matter the man anymore. If Patterson managed to get cheated on by Stewart than no man will be able to hold down a bitch.

    5. To make it worse, it doesn’t work. It’s plainly obvious when a girl is a slut but is just withholding it from you to make her seem innocent. It’s dishonest and insulting to a man’s intelligence. If you want to be a slut, be honest about it. Guys value honest sluts way more than they do dishonest women. You can just ask the millions of guys who fall in love with their call girls.

    6. LMAO. Yea, bro, let’s blame law dogger for telling her to act like a slut. It’s not her at all, it’s the mean guys at RoK at work.
      As much as we all would like to believe women are some angels that dont like sex, it’s not true. We’re all sexual creatures and these days, women are more open about it. If a women is going to slut, she’s going to. If she’s not, then that will be because of her own choice as well.
      There are already a few blog post here telling women that a good,feminine woman is more desirable when settling down….

  7. I think there’s something to covert vs overt messages when it comes to women’s sexual past/present. I like it when I get covert messages from a new girl insinuating we’re going to have some fun. She’ll never outwardly say she’s going to fuck your brains out before it’s happened but drop plenty of clues. On the other hand, the overt messaging can be a red flag(i have a high sex drive, men can’t keep up with me, etc…). This tells me it might feel like a hot dog down a hallway once I get in there and its not exactly getting me up.

  8. I have a trio of rules for fuckbuddies that I’ve used for years.
    1. Discretion: If you somewhat resemble a female, you’re going to have the opportunity to get laid, I get that. You don’t have to openly advertise it; I usually don’t. In fact, NOT telling the world (Facebook, Twitter, etc.,) every time you have a successful bowel movement or toasted a piece of bread is actually a good thing.
    2. Maturity: I assume that you’re getting laid by ‘x’ others and I’m adult enough to realize that and I honestly don’t care. However, you need to realize that I’m plowing other fields besides yours.
    3. Respect: You have your hobbies, I have mine. Don’t get needy or start asking questions because you probably won’t like the brutally honest answers I give you (unless she’s into that). And you’re violating my personal and private space on top of it. Quickest way to get bounced out of a “friendship”.
    p.s. Do not fuck the same fuckbuddy more than one day a week; the female will start to develop feelings and thoughts of dilusion that she’s more than a fuckbuddy.

  9. Kim – in the event that you or any woman ever sees this, I’m afraid that Lawdogger has steered you somewhat astray. He’s given you a straight answer (lie about your number – bang on a first date but not on a first meet up), but I don’t think it answers the spirit of your question.
    As stated, a girl who is not DTF (down to fuck) gets “nexted” AND a girls value goes down with every guy she bangs, so what’s she supposed to do?
    The answer is: depends what you want in life. If you want sex with high value alphas, Lawdog’s right. Put out on the first date, but not the first meeting, never EVER bring up your history, and practice lying your ass off if he asks. If you DO give him a number, be aware that he is going to IMMEDIATELY double it in his head, so cut it in half before you tell him.
    If you want a LTR with a high value alpha, you’re screwed unless he’s in his late 40’s. Those guys can have sex with a variety of attractive, high value women, and they’re going to do it until they get tired of it, and that’s not happening until after 45. The All Star Quarterbacks, the rising stars in finance, and the young entrepreneurs are NOT looking for wives and girlfriends in the bar scene. They’re looking to get laid.

    1. Correct….there are VERY few younger men who are alpha and high value looking to get married….women have made marriage an incredibly stupid move for a man….so only the losers and betas are looking for marriage because they can not attract a woman any other way than promising to be their life long slave….

      1. I disagree completely. After hitting my goals financially, career wise and certification wise. before 30 I knew. I was ready to get that big house find a good woman and marry her and continue the bloodline. Its crazy, you guys will call that being beta or a loser. Peter going to have to disagree, I want to be able to run around with ease with my children not saying 45 is too old but I knew five years into my career what I wanted. The notches game came to end early about two years out of college. I knew what I wanted and now had to game to get it.

        1. You will be back on this site seeking advice from Peter on what your next divorce move should be.

        3. I don’t know what the resistance is to marrying young. I’ve been with my husband since he was 23 and I was 21. It’s been great for both of us. He got to focus on his chosen field and take some risks because my income could pay the bills. Being a team in our 20’s meant we got to live much more comfortably than our single counterparts. Now as we approach 30, we’re years ahead with investments & careers than we’d have been alone. Also, it meant we both carried little to no baggage into our marriage- we were clean slates emotionally and debt-wise. And that’s not even the mushy “I love him so much. He makes grocery shopping fun. I can’t imagine life without him” stuff that really makes marriage the best thing ever.

        4. Pretty rough you wishing a divorce on me. Either way, thats what a prenup is for. Don’t have to be a millionaire to get it. I use to think getting a prenup was saying you were admitting things would fail, but now I understand it is to protect my years of creating a pretty decent estate..

        5. It would be incredibly stupid to get married in the anglo world at the moment. If you have money and mobility? You can easily move to a place where you can get married and have kids and not have the risk of being screwed over.
          I created a remedy but men are not using it yet…..it has not become widely established yet and men are not supporting each other yet.
          Remember…you are talking to a man who raised 4 children and is very likely more successful than you professionally….dismissing such advice is a very dangerous thing to do….it is why so many men are killing themselves in the divorce courts.
          In the anglo world? They are not YOUR kids just at the moment.

  10. My answer to her would be:
    “What’s a girl to do? Nothing. Just burn in hell.
    See how easy that is?

  11. Any girl who puts out before the 3rd date gets tossed in the fuck buddy bin , and forfeits any future opportunity for an LTR.
    We’re all different when it comes to standards.

    1. idk, thing about a girl who holds out until date 3, makes you wonder if she bangs other guys date 1 and sees you as “beta boyfriend” material. Is that what you want?

      1. I don’t worry about that because I’m the guy they wanna fuck on the 1st date. If they can resist me for 3 dates they can resist anyone.

  12. If she’s going to sleep with you on the first night. She needs to leave immediately and not contact for at least a week. Than things will be good.

  13. Looks like RoK is seriously deviating now from manosphere.
    Is “Return of Kings” now gonna become, “Revenge/Return of Sluts”?
    Do we really need to advice women on how to become “appropriate sluts” – as if we needed more sluts now, due to a shortage of sluts – and that too after a “traditional sex roles week”?
    Seriously, authors like these, need to take a vacation.

    1. NOOOO! YOU CAN’T RUIN MY FUN MOMMY! I’M HAVING FUN HERE! WHY WOULD YOU RUIN EVERYTHING! NO WOMEN ALLOWED!

  14. How to be an appropriate slut…..simple. Have the reputation of a good girl to everyone you know but an undercover whore to all you don’t know. You have your real friends and associates and your whore friends and associates….never mix the two.

    1. Right, but like, when they’re, like, posting EVERYTHING on Facebook, ’cause it’s SO FUKKKKKIN COOL, how, uh, do they keep anything, uh, like, separated?

      1. Your undercover whore friends don’t post shit on Facebook, that’s the whole point of having them

        3. Facebook is the biggest pile of bullshit out there…I have a fake account with over 450 “friends”. ~20 of them (family and actual friends) know who I actually am. It’s a fucking joke.
          But, the “fairer” sex loves to post every coffee run, girls’ night, cat or dog squatting and drink pounding pic their hamsters can take.
          Dullards…

  15. Sloots are for fucking. I love sloots.
    If a sloot is DTF, that’s awesome, but it’s better for all concerned that we be sure to be honest- being a sloot disqualifies a woman from consideration for anything but the lukewarm hole between her legs.
    I love the lukewarm hole between their legs, don’t get me wrong. But the life support system it’s attached to should be aware enough to know the cost of the carousel ride, and that’s where there’s a huge disconnect between reality and perception inside their pretty little heads.

  17. So. Um…we have to be “appropriate” now?
    Wow…just wow.
    This site disgusts me. I’m affirmed. Are you?
    ~Desiree

    1. Who gives a fux if this site disgusts you? You might ask yourself why. I laugh at Jezebel because I know it’s a farce. ROK is probably hitting a little to close to the nerve for any woman over 30 who is watching their cock carousel evaporate.

  18. Dear Kim,
    “What’s a girl to do”? Well, I’ll tell ya 🙂 Women who sleep with men get dumped. Women who don’t sleep with men get dumped. Try asking a different question: who doesn’t get dumped? Women who win their man’s *heart*. Learn to do that and you’ll be set 🙂
    Good luck in love,
    Kate

  21. This is BRILLIANT!!
    First, you took a sarcastic, bitchy e-mail from a feminist who thought she was being clever and used it as – what feminists’ teen idol Barack Obama would call – “a teaching moment.”
    Then, you gave a formula for women to follow. Helping everyone. Ingenious!
    I also liked your point that men are the romantics. That is so true. Oh, we hear endless bull shit about how married men lose their sense of romance. How today’s single men are not romantic and lack chivalry and all the rest of the subservient crap. But, in truth, men are the romantics of the two sexes. Men romantically hold out hopes of find that one in a million woman that somehow knew (admitted miraculously) she should save her vagina for one man, while learning to accentuate her natural female skills such as keeping a good house, cooking, and so on.
    I know that miraculous woman is not available in America. That doesn’t mean I don’t fuck my way along while trying to find her.

  22. i think all u dudes will appreciate this Bible verse:
    “Look”, says the teacher, “this is what i have discovered: Adding one thing to another to discover the scheme of things — while i was still searching but not finding — I found one upright man in a thousand, but not one upright woman among them all…
    Ecclesiastes 7:27-28.
    This was apparently Solomon the richest and wisest man that ever lived, who bedded literally thousands of women, had wives and concubines galore…and His kingdom was torn apart by God because of his love for women who turned him away from God, and at the end he found out that they weren’t worth it, none were good or upright….
    i think most men put up w/ so much wanting and thinking women are just, really better than what they really are….as a woman i can tell u that u guys can’t have ur cake and eat it too. u want to have as much sex as u wish and then when ur ready to get married, then u want a virgin or “almost” one, (u either are or u aint). women are more and more sexual because they just want to please u damn guys, that’s why! they THINK thats what ur supposed to do and u guys demand it! if u dont put out, u get dumped! YOU MEN have also created this horrible culture by not appreciating virginal women…. take some responsibility…but i know u wont. i as a woman know that most women are too idiotic and follow the crowd….but when a man DOES find a truly good woman (virgin is best and more trust-worthy), they just dont appreciate her…..u guys are getting what u put in too…..and itll only get worse

    1. If I don’t give him what he wants he is just going to dump me. I want to hold onto him so maybe I shouldn’t tell him I’m a virgin.

      1. If he does, then he ain’t what you want. Save yourself for the right guy. Don’t listen to these feminists around here telling you to give up the booty to every dude you see.

        1. Actually, it’s probably not the feminists telling her this; it’s the red pillers. From several years of hanging out in the manosphere, it seems to me that most red pillers want women to give it up easily. If a woman doesn’t give it up within 3, 5, 7 dates to an alpha red piller (as some above have noted), then he should next her.
          Yet, a woman who falls prey to an alpha red piller’s game and has sex
          within 3, 5, 7 dates is only worth keeping around as a fuckbuddy. This is too contradictory.
          (Anyway, I do applaud you for your point about saving oneself for the right guy.)

        2. It doesn’t seem to be so much about wanting women to give it up easily, as it is about advising men who just want to bone on how to bone these women who just want to give it up. It appears to me there’s also advice for guys who desire something more than the PUA lifestyle; however it advises guys who want a relationship to act the same exact aloof and confident sort of way as those guys who just want to bone.

        3. It’s not contradictory at all. Red pillers know that women can’t be trusted. So having an actual ‘relationship’ with them is pointless. Most red pillers will just say “i’m only gonna use a bitch for her holes,” period, given the alternative which would automatically make them beta cuckold-bait (because women never want what they already have).
          Myself being a religious MGTOW, I believe that even ONE sexual partner out of wedlock fucks a woman’s whole life up. In fact, there was a study which showed how with their first unmarried partner their risk for making poor life choices (single motherhood, divorce, STDs, poverty) goes up by a staggering 6000% (yes, SIXTY TIMES more likely), and with each partner it goes up even more. This changes some elements of my strategy, but still, I would not accept a relationship given women’s innate natures. I’d rather use a surrogate, and go through a series of relatively ‘cleaner’ small-town girls for sexual please. Women make lousy companions anyway: they’re all about manipulating, nagging, and stealing from you (oh, and airing out your dirty laundry for gossip).

    2. To be fair, if you want a relationship with a guy, stop going for guys who are super attractive or alpha. they have many options to the point where they look at women as cum dumpsters.Sure they want sex…but that’s it.
      You want a good man, aim for less attractive men, they do not get laid as much, hence will respect your virginity and even your vagina.Aim for the average 9-5 office.corporate worker, or just an average Joe. Aim for a non-white guy who has an outgoing personality.
      See it is not just he fault of a men, it is also the fault of the women for her choice in men that leads her to feel unappreciated.
      Remember, sluts are very picky, they only fuck with all the alphas.
      I’m tall and good looking and get girls approaching me….how many guys do you know that get guys approaching them. All I have to do is no fuck it up.

  23. I forgot: There is one major point missing here.
    If you are a single mother (however your arrived that sad state of affairs), forget about applying any of these rules. We already know that you are a hopeless slut. So, just make peace with that reality.
    If you want to get fucked, make sure you have some sexual skills and put out quick. We will not wait for an actual bull shit date with you. You were done as a candidate LTR the minute you first got pregnant. But we might have you back for a second and third fuck if you know how to deep throat it.

    1. What about a single mother like my sister whose husband died fighting in Afghanistan. She was a virgin when she married, is she a worthless slut? she’s looking for a new husband through her church now after she mourned for 3 years and has never fucked another man to my knowledge.

      1. If she had her child in wedlock and her husband died, she is not a “single mother.” A single mother is a woman who has a child out of wedlock. Your sister is a widowed mother.

    2. Very few women conceive OOW children by rape, but it still does happen. Are you pro-choice?

  24. As this post is directed at women I guess we can chime in… Are people really having that much casual sex?? I can’t imagine a social circle where it is expected/encouraged to regularly have sex on the first date. My husband was my first and it’s incredibly common amongst my female friends to have had 1 sexual partner- their husband or live in BF. I do have some friends that fall on the more promiscuous side of the aisle and have had a ONS or two but I think an intervention would be staged if it was happening more than that. We’re not religious, we live in a large metropolitan area and we’re flaming liberals but we would be clutching our pearls if any of our friends were behaving as you described above.

    3. I’m guessing you are from the older more wiser generation. Younger American girls 16-27, are slutty as fuck. I was riding in my FB’s car, she had to pick her sister from school, when we stopped by a 7/11, the sister, 14, asked me if she could give me a BJ, and she was a minor so I declined.
      God bless you people, doing it right by not being slutty.

  25. This has to be one of my least favorite articles I have read on this site.
    “Now everything is not black and white and these are not hard line rules. The more traditional you are and make yourself out to be, the more likely it is that you do not ding yourself in the eyes of the man for holding out longer. I’ve waited 5-7 dates with Ukrainian and Russian girls before because some of them actually can compensate with real female qualities—they cooked, cleaned, wore heels everywhere, and so on. Or if you look like this girl, most guys will happily wait a few extra dates. Or perhaps you give terrific blowjobs.”
    – Seriously?
    There is no such thing such as a traditional slut, and a non traditional slut. Make up your mind, man. A slut is a slut, period.
    A man on red pill waiting for 5-7 dates to bang a chick in the modern world has some serious “game” problems. What you revealed is a Beta, pseudo-red piller approach. 3 dates is max for a woman to give it up. Looks like you’ve been strung along by Ukrainian/Russian chicks enough. Get yourself a copy of Bang Ukraine, dude.
    And remember – sex is sex for a man, and cannot be compensated for by cooking, cleaning, wearing heels and so on by a woman. You got some serious problems there, if you choose to postpone sex just because your woman acts like a model and maid at the same.
    And to the main context of the article.
    Man, c’mon, are we now preaching as to what feminists have been doing for almost five decades now, i.e. creating sluts?
    Don’t you think this article is itself solipsistic? Are we not defeating redpill itself by posting articles like this? What have decided – to shake hands with the devil (feminists) now?
    We want women to be traditional. Yet with articles with these, we coach them to be slutty and devious at the same time. From Redpill, are we gonna become pseudo Redpillers/closet feminists now?
    American women, true, are hopeless. But atleast we were trying to instill lost traditional values with all those articles a couple of weeks before. By writing articles like this, you’re extinguishing the spark of redpill itself in the minds of women who would even think of staying “traditional”.
    And now we have an article which teaches them on how to slut it out like a devious champ. We’re telling them to hide their numbers. Do you think a redpiller has such a fragile ego that he would even be affected if a slut told him her true figure? Actually if she told him, it would be better for a redpiller (or even an average man) to move on faster.
    And here we are teaching women on how to slut effectively like how feminists have been doing for years now.
    What your next article gonna be? “How to become a good wife from being an appropriate slut” – I presume.
    Seriously, if you’re gonna continue with articles like these, you need to write for Jezebel and not for RoK.

  26. So, the takeaway from this is…”Girls, be semi-slutty, but don’t tell us how slutty you’ve really been.” Why should anyone in the manosphere care what the number of someone’s ex-lovers is? Why do we guys want girls to maintain a romantic fiction? Do we have feeeeeeeelings? Do we want our throwing a load into cum dumpsters to have some meaning? How perfectly gay.

    1. Do “we” have feelings? Why do “we” in the manosphere care? Listen, you ain’t me. So get rid of the “we.”

      1. The fact that I used “we” shows that I understand that I am not you. Unless I was using the “royal we” (which I was not), “we” means “oneself and others.”

        1. I am not “others” I am “I.” You want to try to rationalize your collectivism like a bitch, go somewhere else.

  27. ” As blushing will sometimes make a whore pass for a virtuous woman,
    so modesty may make a fool seem a man of sense.”
    – Jonathan Swift
    This article is self defeating enough, in trying to teach sluts on how to become “appropriate”
    .

  28. I have a friend who is a virgin and she is with an older guy so should she tell him before she haves sex or just wait till he is about to penetrate? Thanks. Also I have really big like bigger than silver dollar nipples so do guys hate that? I mean when they are hard they go small but usually they are all big. Should she leave my bra on?

    1. First of all- there are about 10,000 other places on the internet you should probably be posting this question. That being said, she/you need to discuss this with him fully clothed for a few reasons 1) He’ll need to be more gentle if it’s your first time. 2) Taking someone’s virginity can be a big deal to some men. It’s not fair to not loop him in beforehand. Also, are you sure you want to be intimate with this man? Just because you don’t want to wait until marriage doesn’t mean this is the right guy…

      1. Yeah sorry I thought I would ask experienced older guys and Then i saw you were a doctor so I thought it would be ok. Thanks I will tell him. Can u tell me if guys hate big nipples? I’m sooooooo sorry!!!!

        1. No need to apologize! The decision you’re making is really important and I wouldn’t want you to get nasty or flippant comments when you’re just seeking info. As far as nipples go, I’d bet good money he’ll be excited to see your boobs no matter what. If he’s doing his job your nipples will be erect anyway. If you’ve chatted beforehand and are both ready it will all be awesome. Have fun! Use protection!

        2. Thanks ^.^ Faith down below said you just get dumped if you don’t put out and nobody appreciates virgins but Im taking your advice and I’ll tell him this weekend.

        3. Oh lol I thought you were the doc responding. If I had time I would search more. We don’t have TV and we have restricted interned so you see why I found this place. It was in history.

        4. Just go find a basketball team to gang bang you. That will get you started the right way. Your boyfriend might be one of those guys who likes to watch, so make sure and invite him along. Or just make a video and surprise him with it on his birthday!

        5. I’m sure that how you found your wife wife. Did you forget your anti psychotic this morning.

        6. Yeah right. Ain’t no one but a teenage virgin nailing me down. My wife? Don’t make me laugh.

  29. Important point… being DTF with the right guy. Being DTF does not mean being DTF all the time. Choose wisely and choose the best, and then be loyal. But then again I wonder if 1% of women actually understand what loyalty means.

    1. I’m confused. I’m told nobody wants to have sex with a virgin and nobody wants an experienced woman. I’m 18 and don’t plan on waiting till I’m married. I really like him but he is a guy who can just move on to the next girl. Plz help.

  30. Presuming this girl is legitimate, I wonder, like others have done, just what it is that she is expecting to find here. If she is looking to explore her slutty side, she is in the right place; I hope she enjoys the decline. If she is looking for a long term relationship and doesn’t want to explore her slutty side, she isn’t all that smart–what the hell is she doing here asking for advice? For anyone reading between the lines, as someone mentioned, if she was hoping to game, I think she just got gamed: “come into my lair, said the spider to the fly”. Mwaahaaa….

  31. So let me get this straight. Women aren’t supposed to be allowed to post here. If they DO post here, we’re supposed to ignore them and not respond. But if they send an email, we’re more than happy to write an entire article giving them advice on how to deceive men (who this site is supposed to be for…) What’s next? An article about how to cheat on your husband without getting caught?
    I don’t care if you like sluts or you don’t. The question I’d like to ask is, when did this site become about giving advice to women? Especially when that advice runs counter to the best interests of men?

  32. Not fully related to the topic but recently the local single mum statistics came out and some chick had 7 kids from unknown fathers, why isn’t forced birth control practiced in such cases? Hard working men (and women) have to pay for their child support and other benefits.

  33. A girl can try to lie and deceive all she wants about her sexual past but once you get her in the sack you know instantly whether or not she’s a slut.
    It’s one of the only times their mouth doesn’t lie.

  34. Always remember, if you managed to get a girl to fuck you on the first date; she’s probably done that with other guys. There’s always guys out there with better game, more money, better looks, better character…than you, who can slay chicks better than you can. Take the default approach that she’s a slut and proceed accordingly.

  35. “It follows that I have a question; what’s a girl to do? The two hardly seem reconcilable.”
    The quick answer to her question: she should seek out the blue-pill males, which are 80%+ of all guys. These might not be the guys who give her the “tingles” down below, but many of them will happily wife up an former carousel rider.

  36. Hands down this is the best article you’ve ever written. Spot on. Bravo. You’ve just entered my top authors on this site Law Dogger.

  37. At first, I used to think this website had value. Now I realize it is total faggotry and promotes weak men. This article basically promotes ignorance and lying to guys. I love sex and like hearing women’s exploits. You guys are fucking delusional just like the nice guys who can’t handle that women like sex. What garbage

      1. Yup. First, I’m a sex fiend and love sex stories. Second, it gives me an idea of how crazy she’ll be (I like sexually adventurous girls). Third, it’ll give me an idea of how much to worry about STIs. Fourth, it’ll make me face my own feelings of sexual insecurity.
        Very little of this website is “red pill.” It’s blue pill, just a lighter shade of blue. Pfff
        There’s way too much toxic garbage on this website. If you want to really get good with women in a healthier way, I recommend RSD, though no program is without its faults.

        2. I have some buddies of mine who are short, like 5’1-5’4. Would RSD be good for them? I’m done coaching them.

  39. What has been seen here can not be unseen as they say. You don’t like sluts but here’s how to hide it if you are one. Women aren’t supposed to be here but now we have an insight into what you’re really thinking. I’m so intrigued “your fucking of me” how romantic!

    1. Go into the kitchen and don’t come out until I call you. And make me a sandwich. And no can’t have any more cats and you can’t get a Mohawk. Also, I expect to see you in heels more often.

        1. I don’t care. But I like it with lots of extra love.
          Wedges make girls look fat. It’s like, stilletto heels aren’t enough to support your bulk.

        3. Good. Unfortunately, I have a feeling you would LIKE taking it up the ass. So, you aren’t girlfriend material.

        4. My ass is virgin and exit only TYVM and you can go to prison for some of that kind of sweet lovin if you wish.

        6. Do we live in the days where everyone thinks it’s ok and extremely common to have anal sex? How foul.

        9. Well, I only require ass to mouth if you are really misbehaving. Otherwise, it is just a monthly deal. You know, so you can bleed out of both holes simultaneously.

        10. I doubt I’ll be able to sleep for a week with that image in my head without a glass and a helper. Cheers!

  40. I don’t understand why you have to treat women like they’re objects in this way. Women are people, and calling them sluts because they have lots of sex is absolutely inappropriate.
    You call them replaceable if they don’t put out on the first or second date, but you still shame them for having sex with so many people. How is that even fair?

    1. “…calling them sluts because they have lots of sex is absolutely inappropriate.”
      No. It is totally appropriate.

    2. A woman who has lots of sex with a lot of people, objectifies herself on her own, as a cum dumpster/slut/sex object.
      So, you can’t call men unfair to even think of her as an “object” for that, let alone call or shame her for that.
      Stop being solipsistic. Is your self esteem so low that you would slut It out just because you were called replaceable because you didn’t put out on the first or second date?

  41. Thank you for this post! What a god send. I was wondering why it was so hard for me to get laid despite being a thin well dressed and conventially attractive woman. Now I know. I was being too honest! I would tell them about my sex life because I was not at all interested in sharing any other part of myself with them. A man/woman I want to settle down with sure but not hot dick. I did not care at all about their interests, personalities, fears, nothing, just sex. I was very nice to them though and I thought that was enough.
    I realize it was wrong of me to think men just want sex because of the physical pleasure as I previously thought. It’s an ego boost. A girl that doesn’t really give a damn about you outside of the bedroom is emasculating. It takes away that power fantasy. Sluttiness means the woman is in control but men like patriarchal sexual dynamics. And deep down, they can get emotional about sex and secretly hope for strong attachment/love just like women can. Social conditioning would have us think men are just stoic fuck machines. It should have been obvious that this is a lie.
    So in summary I just have to:
    1. Pretend I’m innocent and that I’m truly into him as a person but just don’t want a relationship. White lies never hurt.
    2. Make sure he brings the condoms before hand because having the necessary items to protect myself is too obvious? Weird but I’ll go with it.
    3. Text other men in the bathroom or if I need to talk, tell him I need fresh air.
    4. Never mention fucking other men, not even one, not even if it’s safer sex. If he asks though should I lie or be honest? I’m thinking lie. We’re not going to be together so it shouldn’t matter right?
    I hope i’m not missing anything. Anyway, I will be sure to report back if it works and thank you once again. I have a feeling it will!

    1. Considering you’re Russian, everyone knows (or assumes stereotypically) that you are already sexually experienced to the point of slutting it around (considering the whoring tendencies of Russian women, and the social acceptance of, or indifference to that trait in your part of the world).
      So even if you lied about it, it’s not gonna work. Men are not gonna be fooled easily by you (considering the knowledge of and distrust towards Russian women’s natures).
      Your best (and only) hope is to get a hymen restoration.That’s the only way you’d become an “appropriate” slut.

    2. “Pretend I’m innocent and that I’m truly into him as a person but just don’t want a relationship. White lies never hurt.”
      Why pretend you are into him, he finds out he will only rat you out to his social circle and you will lose out of prospects. Plus men have learnt to see through that act anyways. I can be drunk and see through it. Your manipulation will be a turn-off and will make it hard for me to get hard.
      You are clearly the kind of girl who cannot and does not want a relationship.
      Just be honest with yourself and fuck around.
      If you are good looking as you say, it should not be hard, I think you are aiming for guys who are way too attractive, drop the standards down a bit, you will get all the dick you want.

  42. The answer to the lady’s question is very simple.
    If you want sex a lot, follow this advice in the article. You won’t likely get a very lasting relationship, but you will get lots of sex.
    If you want a relationship, don’t have sex on first date. Don’t have sex even on the following dates. Get comfortable with the man, get to know what he wants, his character, and if you like it, there you go.
    In my extended sexual career of two men, both gained access to me after several months of knowing each other. Several dozens of men got fed up with waiting and left. Big deal. If a woman wants a relationship, she doesn’t need a lot of suitors. As one of the men said:
    “You know, you won’t attract many men with this behavior”.
    “I don’t need many men. I need one.”
    He’s still single. I’m very happily married. I rest my case,

  43. Girls, just be slutty.
    No high value guy is going to marry in today’s enviroment. It would be crazy.
    The best you can hope for is to be the favorite one in the rotation.
    Do not hate the player, hate the game.

  44. This advise is counter-intuitive to men because one of the reasons you want to identify a slut is to work out the likely hood of an STD. Like if she is ultra slutty you can say go for a BJ, cause sluts give great BJs, but if she is not as slutty, and been with like 4 guys ever, then you can go for the fuck or consider her relationship material.

      1. not if she sucks my dick. If I lick her vag..then I can get freaking cancer ala micheal douglas.
        I’ve mouth fucked many girls in club toilets ans such, no std. Bangs a couple of chicks vag with a condom..STD.

  45. Instead of articles like these, RoK should feature an article like “How to remain a virgin (for girls) – oral and anal inclusive”.
    We’ve got enough sluts already.

  46. Why are we coaching women on how to better DECEIVE us? There are already masters at it. I’m travelling so I don’t care for a relationship, but when I settle down to my own pad, I’ll want a steady GF and the last thing I need is for her to have been an ultra slut. If she choose that life, I need to know.

  47. So what if your a virgin, which I am, and don’t just wanna fuck around. What if you want a man that’s gonna stick around and first date fucking isn’t an option?

    1. There are guys like me who are tall and good looking, but I get girls approaching me and have sex regularly in toilets of my place. Your call if you want attractive guys like me for quick sex or a dependable guy who is not as attractive as me, but relationship wise, perfect for it.
      first off all, don’t go for supremely attractive men, they have lots of options and can get women easily, so they will demand sex that night or avoid you if you do not put out. Go for “Average Joe”. He will want a relationship, stick around…because he does not have many options.
      I know women want the thrill of getting a hot guy to commit to them, but you have to be in the top 5% of looks for that too happen or the alpha actually wants to settle down(extremely rare, like we are talking winning the lottery rare).
      Also feel free to venture towards other races of people, they do not have the greatest of prospects relationship wise.
      The smart women know this and are clever enough to put their emotions aside when they want a relationship. Ofcourse don’t wait till you are 24 to do this or else you will hit the wall and become unattractive.
      Now ofcourse the relationship can get stale, so it is up to you to coach him to take charge and be decisive and strong willed so you give him something that you can be emotionally attracted to.

  50. Why the fuck are you trying to help them?!?! Treason! It’s fucking treason!

  51. The slut life will not work for women. Women need the feel of relationships in their life – they need to feel in a place where they are surrounded by positive, chatty energy, where everyone loves them. This is not bad at all – ideally you have a mother in a house, she has her kids, her husband, her nieces and nephews, etc, and she blankets everyone with her nurturing femininity, cares about everyone’s problems, provides a nice refreshing environment for the man coming home from his masc. work environment.
    Now when a woman DOESN’T have this family around her, this instinct goes terribly wrong. She lacks a son to care for, a man to look up to, daughters to do feminine shit with, sisters to gossip with, etc. Because she was a annoying slut in her 20s, men used her and girls were smart to get caught up with her, so she has no friends. She’s older now, she’s fat, there’s no single guys. Her own family can’t deal with her hamstering.
    All of her positive feminine instincts just well up inside of her with no outlet. This is why 38 year old female store employees will literally talk to you about dumb shit for 15 mins if you accidentally ask them a personal question. They need that flow of social energy in their life, they need to create the illusion that they are sitting happily by the warm fire with their beautiful family and friends. So they constantly inject themselves into every situation, hoping to be a voice of maternal authority or support or nagging, trying desperately to live out a lie.

  52. I don’t understand whats so bad about asking about a girls past. If it turns out to be sordid, just relegate her to the fuckzone.

  53. “Christian and ME”. You wouldn’t say “wrote to I”. You have to use the accusative case pronoun.

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