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It is my strong assertion that any woman of interest that a single heterosexual man approaches in today’s dating scene is going to ultimately fall into one of four categories:
1. Reciprocators
A woman who is a genuine Reciprocator is never going to attempt to mislead a man or engage in any sort of “manipulative head games.” She is going to be upfront and straightforward about whether she is interested in sharing that man’s company in a romantic or sexual manner. May every man be so lucky as to meet and converse with a woman who is a genuine Reciprocator type.
2. Rejecters
Alan Roger Currie’s first audiobook is designed to help men overcome their fears and egotistical insecurities so that they can begin to approach women of interest
Similar to a Reciprocator, a woman who is a genuine Rejecter is never going to attempt to mislead a man. Once a man is bold and confident enough to express his desire to share her company, this type of woman is going to be upfront about not feeling the same way.
If she is married, engaged, or currently has a long-term male companion that she has no interest in cheating on, she will let a man know this quickly, straightforwardly, and without unnecessary theatrics.
Abrupt rejection may be hard for some men to swallow, and it may leave a man’s ego a wee bit bruised in the short run, but in the long run, all men will learn to appreciate the non-manipulative ways of the genuine Rejecter types. If nothing else, these type of women will never waste your precious time.
3. Manipulative Timewasters
Alan Roger Currie’s second audiobook is designed to help men quickly and effectively identify women who have intentions of misleading them and manipulating them in order to achieve and accomplish their own self-serving objectives
Women who operate as Manipulative Timewasters are those women who will initially, temporarily, or even indefinitely seek to give a man the misleading impression that she is a genuine Reciprocator. However, deep-down that woman is nothing more than a Rejecter displaying the disingenuous façade of an enthusiastic Reciprocator.
Women who are Manipulative Timewaster types love to socially interact with men in order to be flattered, entertained, and “wined and dined.” They will maintain a number of platonic male friends who will empathetically listen to their problems, disappointments, and frustrations.
Unlike a woman who is a genuine Rejecter, these women will never be forthright with men about their lack of sexual interest in them, sine this would ruin their “game.” They want men to always believe in the possibility of sex so that they can continue to mine the time and attention of their “friends.”
4. Wholesome Pretenders
The woman who is arguably the most challenging for men to figure out is the woman who operates as a Wholesome Pretender. If a Reciprocator is a “Definite Yes” woman, a Rejecter is a “Quick No” woman, and a Manipulative Timewaster is a “Slow No” woman, then a Wholesome Pretender type is the closest thing to a “Maybe Yes, Maybe No” woman.
Depending on how powerful and effective a man’s interpersonal communication skills are (i.e., his level of “verbal game”), women who are Wholesome Pretender types can either transition into becoming a Reciprocator, a Rejecter, or a Manipulative Timewaster over a period of minutes, hours, days, or weeks.
Initially, all women who operate as Wholesome Pretender types want to publicly give men the impression that they are innocent, wholesome, prudish (or at least, semi-prudish), and very much monogamy-oriented.
Alan Roger Currie’s most recent audiobook helps men learn to use the power of their voice and their conversation skills to create an almost instantaneous degree of sexual chemistry with women of interest
During their first conversation with a man, the Wholesome Pretender types always want men to believe that they will only engage in sexual relations within the context of marriage, or at minimum, only within the context of a long-term, emotionally profound, monogamous relationship.
If a man’s verbal game is strong, seductive, and pleasantly persistent – and he has mastered the fine art of “erotic dirty talk” – then this man will be able to provoke the woman who is operating as a Wholesome Pretender to eventually reveal that she actually has a more open-minded, free-spirited, and erotically uninhibited side to her personality
Even more importantly, the man will unlock the secret that that she is highly willing to engage in one or more episodes of short-term or non-monogamous “casual” sex with a man of interest. Nothing exposes and excites a woman who is a Wholesome Pretender more than a man with exceptional verbal seduction skills.
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I want my 5 minutes back that it took to read the advertisement article.
I don’t. I’m glad to see the ads. ROK needs revenue just like any other venture, and the more diverse the ads are, the better. Businesses take a risk advertising on such an “incendiary” site as is and I applaud them for it.
Plus, they wouldn’t advertise on here if they didn’t believe in what we stood for, now would they? It’s good to have allies throughout life.
Agreed. The snarling about “making money!” from a site of mostly right wing types who strongly encourage other men to “break out of corporate world and start your own business, be your own boss” is confusing, to say the least.
This isnt even a good article though. Thats the problem. If ROK is gonna post shit content like this then the bar is lowered and we eventually lose ROKs quality of writing to monetary gain. I get wanting to make money, that’s fine and well, but don’t sell us an inferior product.
Right. Commentary about the article quality is always fair game. Just responding to the ones whose sole “criticism” is “omg, he’s just here selling us shit! I’m out!”.
Mr. Positive and Encouraging again … LOL
Totally agree. I can’t figure out how some men here who supposedly agree with capitalist principles, being independent, building your own wealth etc, then get offended when someone shows them they have something for sale which might be of interest. If you are independent and aim to build your own wealth, you don’t get offended by that, since you will be doing the same to earn your own wealth.
Getting offended by someone selling something, is the mark of an entitled prick and a loser.
True. One would assume a bona fide Red Pill man would have sufficient discernment to assess the qualities of any pitch on the site.
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>write adticle (not typo) instead of game advice
>get rightfully called out on it
>g-guys i dare you t-to go to my website and check out m-m-my stuff… shoot me an email and gib clikb8 monies + more downloads pls
Learn to market bro, if you’re this fucking terrible at it then i seriously doubt your game considering its essentially selling yourself.
And there he goes again … Just full of kudos today … 😉
show me a picture of your links, mr pick up coach, i need to see what girls you can pull in to determine if your advice is any good
I am easily found on Google
fuck this article.
😉
1) What a marvelous and insightful article!
2) You suck, Alan!
3) Interesting: will you send me a review copy of those books?
4)You might be on to something. Do you have further references to convince me?
My man! LOL. Good stuff. (write me … I’ll send you a promo code)
I’m engaged to be married (to a reciprocator). Send a code to poster Clark Kent on my behalf. In the wasteland that is Toronto, he needs all the help he can get. Peace.
So…you’re a Rejector then?
This. Keep quality content on rok, not this below beta basics trash.
“Not this below beta trash” ….Lol uhh……
So, you won’t be staying?
You’re a positive type of guy, I can see … 😉
Redhead, blonde, brunette and black?
Give me the crazy fuckhead ONS-material redhead, ya’ll can keep the rest.
Nose is too big. I would take the blonde. . .and I am not into blondes (so to speak),
FINALLY, SOMEONE TALKING SOME SENSE. MOST OF THE FUCKING PUSSIES ON HERE ARE PROBABLY PINING FOR A GIRLFRIEND TO DOTE ON ANYWAY.
LET’S GET SERIOUS. I JUST NEED A SLUT TO PLAYFULLY CHOKE AND FUCK. I DON’T CARE ABOUT HER DADDY ISSUES, SO LONG AS SHE SUCKS MY FUCKING COCK AND THEN GOES HOME BEFORE I LAPSE INTO AN ALCOHOLIC COMA.
No hot Asians? My yellow fever makes me offended at your lack of diversity.
They are brunettes.
PRETTY SURE RACE HAS VERY LITTLE TO DO WITH PERSONALITY UNLESS THEY COME STRAIGHT OFF THE BOAT, FROM ANOTHER CULTURE, FUCKASS. YOU SOUND LIKE GOD BLESSED YOU WITH SOME EXTRA CHROMOSOMES, DUDEBRO.
I was talking about the top picture: there is a red head, a blonde, an Indian or Middle Eastern girl and a Black chick, but no (East) Asian.
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And you can read my post below about the breakdown of Chinese women. You might learn something.
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But first, learn how to type as well as a bit of online etiquette. Y’know, there is something called a Caps Lock button. Use it. . .a second time you annoying asslicker.
“Reciprocator” = unicorn = doesn’t exist
You have never, ever had a woman quickly and straightforwardly reciprocate your expressed romantic and/or sexual desires, interests, and intentions? Never? Reciprocators are arguably “rare,” but they are not non-existent.
I have 🙂
My current girlfriend is one of them. So, they exist.
they aren’t even that rare in some parts of the world, and in some subcultures. in my early days as a young, clueless mormon, and later in my 30s slaying it (and being slain) in EE and latin america, i didn’t have much concept of game because with those women you just kind of express interest and they let you know.
needless to say, i was pretty confused when i got back to the states and attempted dating typical american women. not until i found roosh and ROK did the lightbulb go on and i said “ah ok, makes sense.”
I don’t even think they are rare. I meet loads of them. Of course it helps to talk to loads of women.
The trouble is, in some countries like the USA, where the vast majority of women are fat, so many reciprocators have simply disqualified themselves from being potential sex partners. And the relative value of the slender women is artificially enhanced. As such, viable women have a motivation to become Timewasters or Pretenders.
Come to Europe though.. plenty of reciprocators here. Not for nothing is it called “Poosy Paradise”…
Well worded Bob. If someone isn’t putting in the time and meeting as many woman as they can. They can not complain about the lack of woman they have.
Alan, I’m a big fan of your books and your blogtalk. You’ve given me some valuable gems of knowledge.
Thank you my friend! Your words of kudos and gratitude are much appreciated
ARC’s 4 categories of women are valid in the culture we live in. I’ve encountered a “pretender” before.
Its valid but theres zero meat to the article. Pretenders wow, so nice to have a nice name for it. Oh wait even some of the most beta faggot eventually gets that hes being used, if you browse rok then you should already know all of this. Fuck this bullshit, author is selling you a filet mingon and all you get is the sides.
And yet again . . .
Stupid. Please up your game, ROK. We have no other options.
Everyone has multiple options
You would have us believe there are only four types of women.
How many ways can a woman reciprocate your desires and interests or reject them?
This G knows his stuff.
The other downside to Rejectors are the By-Proxy Rejectors, the female friend of the girl you’re trying to hit on who speaks on behalf of your target and everyone else in their group.
What trash. They’re always so fucking rude.
It’s always a loud and obnoxious: “Nuh, unh. She got a boyfriend. We all got a man.”
That’s just rudeness to me and the friend she is speaking for.
Cockslap that bitch and fuck her in the ass;
with affirmative consent, of course. That’ll show her!
So, women will say yes, no, maybe or just jerk you around. My, that was informative.
“May every man be so lucky as to meet and converse with a woman who is a genuine Reciprocator type.”
Because that is never, ever, ever the mask of a psychopath.
If she is a psychopath, than she is not really a Recipricator.
Or a True Scotswoman.
You really think that’s what that was? A No True Scotsman? A Recipricator as defined here, is genuine. She is sincere in her motives is what the writer is saying.
So, if she’s jus acting that way, she’s not the real deal. And, fake, manipulative psychopaths give themselves away eventually.
“if she’s jus acting that way . . .”
All we know is how they are acting, and they are all acting that way, until they aren’t.
A True Scotswoman can also be defined in the ideal, but once defined, there are no true Scotswomen.
The closest you will ever get to a True Reciprocater is a woman you don’t really give a shit about, who doesn’t really give a shit about you, but you’re both interested in a mutual quick bang.
Reciprocity is girl game. She doesn’t feel it, but she feels that you do and works it.
This^. Hanuman got #analcrusaded
I’m having a conversation with this guy, what the hell are you talking about you fuckin little loser?
So, it sounds like you’re saying you don’t think the kind of woman being talked about here exists..am I right?
I have an ex who was sincere and completely fucked in the head.
Well I don’t doubt that. But she’s probably not a sociopath ..is she?
More than that, I am warning that believing that there is is the surest way known to man to find yourself sitting in a basement trying to suck start a Smith & Wesson.
Women do not reciprocate, they mirror:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirroring_%28psychology%29
And chameleon:
http://www.mgtow.com/video/the-female-chameleon/
To a man reciprocity is a philosophical concept. To a woman it is a sexual strategy. The principle strategy to lock a man so tightly into an LTR that the mask can be dropped, although it also works a treat at extracting resources from poor, dumb schmucks.
Look at his definition. It’s just another way of saying “unicorn.” The “article” is an infomercial. It’s purpose is not to inform you, it’s to get your money; marketing game.
The general consensus is BPD, which is sort of the female manifestation of psychopathy.
Can’t disagree with this chameleon article. Met far, far too many to be able to. And mirroring is definitely, indubitably a more female trait than it is male. I’d say most in genuine behavior is more into calmly female than male. Most, not all. But how about this: Yeah, even the true Reciprocator is capable of being a fuckin harpy and a locust that destroys a man’s life, but what stops that is a man truly being what the man is supposed to be in the relationship: the leader.
What say you on this?
Yeah..BPD is pretty fucked up.
It is most uncommon, but it has certainly been done. Not with a millennial woman, but it has been done.
To some people everything that transpires online is some sort of competition that requires winners and losers.
The art of discourse is dying.
I need to work on having your judiciousness.
On yer bike!
I humbly disagree. What you are talking about here is the difference between a reciprocator and a timewaster. A timewaster will often pose as a reciprocator but you can always see through them.
Like Robert De Niro once said “if there’s any doubt, there is no doubt.”
I have dabbled in “verbal seduction” over the years, though some of it might come from women being a bit predictable and my own experience with them.
It’s almost scary how well it works. It’s an open door into seeing how and why women will vote for tyrants who will put the men in their lives into camps or send their own sons to die in a war.
Rather endearing to use it to “get laid”. But the feminists and progressives had almost a century to inoculate women to this. Instead they studied how to perfect it against women.
I get Roosh has to sell ads to keep the lights on but why ads in the form of a usual blog? I think the lack of quality in the “ad blogs” brings down the overall perceived value of the website as a collective. There are of course more then just four general types of women. Here are a few that come to mind:
Sweet and kind (extremely rare in Western World)
Crazy Eyes Chick (will stalk you after one lay)
The Ginger (fire crotches just act weird)
Over the HIll (too old but thinks she is still in the margins of not being old yet)
Point being why disguise ads as legit posts?
Those categories have nothing to do with if a woman you find attractive and worth approaching is going to quickly and straightforwardly reciprocate your desires and interests … or quickly and straightforwardly reject your desires and interests … or engage you in manipulative “head games”
Most of the women that I approached in my life were “Rejecters”, some of them gave me the impression of being interested in me, but in fact they were not (Manipulative Timewasters).
And speaking of the women I dated, most of them were “Wholesome Pretenders” and only a few were “Reciprocators”. In fact, my current girlfriend was a reciprocator.
Excellent article.
Four types? I was thinking more along the lines of
1. The Good Broad: Has great face, great body (T&A slender&curves), but cardboard personality (most hot girls)
2. The Butterface (no explanation)
3. The Waste of Flesh (out of shape WNB, so we dont even move on to personality)
4. The Low Bar: decent looks and personality but just not good enough
Every woman is one type of these.
Those categories have nothing to do with how a woman you find attractive and desirable will communicate to you if she’s interested in sharing your company in a romantic and/or sexual manner … or not
you don´t get it, do you?
My old friend Bernie Mac will break it down for you … https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JkPx0gk6LE
“Those categories have nothing to do with how a woman you find attractive and desirable will communicate to you if she’s interested in sharing your company in a romantic and/or sexual manner … or not”
What kind of a mangina bullshit is this? The 1st category “recipricator” doesn’t even exist today. All females are out to play games, period.
don´t worry about him, he is just here to sell his books.
“The 1st category … ‘reciprocator’ … doesn’t even exist today.” If you truly believe that, that says a lot about the women you have been interacting with.
My friend, ask your father (if you know him) to explain the difference between a business man and a criminal to you.
you trying to insult me? “ask your father (if you know him)”
ask your mother (if she is not on crack) why she didn´t teach you manners.
It’s entirely impossible to insult a fool. And thus far you have amply demonstrated your idiocy with the comments you have made, which you think are clever but in fact are quite stupid.
Typical feminist drivel.
Hardcore feminists (or what I refer to as “femisandrists”) HATE my books. I mean, they hate ’em. So . . . .
Like a woman with a hyphenated last name, Currie has two first ones. Is Roger what they call you at the gay club?
You seem to know a lot about gay clubs, so . . . enlighten the group. What do they call YOU at those sort of clubs??
Can you explain butterface?
She has a great body, “but her” face…
Thanks bro! Shame about the boat race!
Lol, I thought it was a girl like Kate Upton the whole time, with chubby cheeks
SHE TAKES CARE OF HERSELF, BUT [GOD]/[JESUS]/[ALLAH]/[VISHNU]/[SPAGHETTI MONSTER]/[CTHULHU] HATED HER SO MUCH THAT HE GAVE HER THE UNNECESSARILY CRUEL ‘FUCK YOU’ THAT WAS MAKING HER FACE HORRIFIC TO BEHOLD, IN SPITE OF HER ‘BANGIN’ BOD.’
I’M SURE YOU CAN CONQUER YOUR FEAR OF NATURAL HUMAN FLAWS BUT APPLYING A PAPER BAG WITH THE STANDARD ISSUE ROHYPNOL ALL OF ROOSH’S ACOLYTES CARRY WHEN SARGING.
WOW, AND I THOUGHT THE ORIGINAL POST WAS SUPERFLUOUSLY CATEGORIZING WOMEN. YOU MUST GET A LOT OF ASS.
whenever I see the word “pretender”, this song comes to mind…be a happy eee-jit, and struggle for the legal tender…
Kind of a MGTOW song…
Bangs some women early on, and then realizes it’s a dream that can’t be fulfilled.
I’m going to find myself a girl
Who can show me what laughter means
And we’ll fill in the missing colors
In each other’s paint-by-number dreams
And then we’ll put our dark glasses on
And we’ll make love until our strength is gone
And when the morning light comes streaming in
We’ll get up and do it again
Get it up again
…
And believe in whatever may lie
In those things that money can buy
Though true love could have been a contender
Are you there?
Say a prayer for the Pretender
Who started out so young and strong
Only to surrender
he was a brilliant songwriter, never to be seen in these here parts again.
“out into the cool of the evening, strolls the pretender; he knows that all his hopes and dreams, begin and end there…”
Absolutely. I’ve been honored with the experience of hearing both him and Crosby Stills and Nash (separately) and it was an amazing experience. Jackson Browne + David Lindley = pure gold. Some of the lyrics he wrote are so deep, and were written when he was a teenager. It’s truly incredible.
PS He’s not dead haha
Were you at this show at MSG?
Hes not dead, but songwriters like him died in the 70s…I was born a couple of decades too late…
Nah, like I said only seen CSN and Jackson Browne separately. But I saw an amazing show he did a few years ago with Keb Mo and Steve Earle, and they all came out and played “I Ain’t Ever Satisfied” together as an encore, trading versus. I have a recording I made of it, all 3 talented artists. And then I’ve seen him about 3 times since then. I am going to see the Stones this summer, still rockin in their old age. I agree, born way too late! My uncle has told me how easy the pussy flowed back in the 70s.
Never met a “Reciprocator.” They don’t breed those in my state. However, I would like to say the dating scene in Indiana has improved with our crappy economy.
It used to be the best looking girls ONLY were seen with monied guys. And the average girls were constantly ignoring and gaming decent men, but always trying to up their status to the rich guys.
Now that the economy sucks, there are more predatory hot girls looking than men to spend money on them. So if you at least have a job and a car you can bag a good looking girl. Average looking girls have already caught on and are becoming more available too. It sucks to see that men are only a commodity, and not seen as human beings. But that’s the way it is.
When I walk up to girls I immediately consider the machinations going on in their heads, and don’t take anything personally.
I will have to pause and wrap my head around the hypothesis that shitty economy means more opportunities for average guys to bang hot chicks.
Kind of makes sense lol. In an extreme case if everyone was broke it eliminates the option of simply going for the rich guy.
Not that hard of a concept.
Bitches are all about hypergamy, so they’re always looking to trade up. Just be somebody worth trading up to. And don’t get into a LTR (I’d go as far as to say not even date) with a woman like this. Use her for sex & nothing more.
Remember, the majority of Americans are a bunch of lazy fuckers so it doesn’t take much to rise above the average.
I have noticed this. In the US, it can be hard to get a look in. Hot chicks get wined and dined even though they bring nothing to the table. In England however, where guys are poorer, hot chicks will accept a lot less. And give up more.
Maybe that’s why the 80s seemed so stodgy compared to the 70s: everyone was making money hand over fist, which meant fewer guys were getting laid. On the other hand, the stagflation of the 70s and the corresponding lowered expectations meant the entertainment was to head down to the disco, “do a little dance, make a little love, get down”, as they put it.
Hm, so maybe theres at least one bright thing in our future here in America…
C.R.E.A.M…..
get tha money, dolla dolla bill ya’ll
Leave it up to me while I be living proof
To kick the truth to the young Black youth
“It sucks to see that men are only a commodity, and not seen as human beings. But that’s the way it is.”
It’s always been that way, the difference is that today’s media driven culture has made things more obvious. Welcome to the Human condition.
The second I saw “Reciprocators” I knew it was some Alan Roger Currie – dude knows his stuff.
I used to listen to his podcast going to work during to college, it was quite helpful.
My one criticism is that his direct game, while satisfying to run, led to a very high flake rate despite a high rate of numbers pulled. I understand he’s a bit older than me (I’m early 20s), so perhaps the generation gap explains skiddishness of younger girls.
Doktor jeep also made a great point that this very new climate might not be as conducive – even if the girl is interested, other people around might intervene. It was 2012 when I worked “verbal seduction” and just 3 years later, 2015 is already a bit different. In that span of time, “Yes Means Yes”, and the “10 hours walking in (the hood of) NYC” have made women more defensive, and white knights around more retaliatory.
Either way, I’d give what ARC has to say a chance.
The only thing that has changed in three years is the date.
Agreed. Direct game has led to A LOT of flaky women on my part. I never understood why but an article on avoiceformen.com provided the best explanation for me.
Its called “understanding the dumb choices women make”; in it the author talks about women and their mediocre mindset and how they get “spooked” by manly men.
Reciprocator? do they even exist? Straightforward? Nah, they play mind games.
Most women fit number 3. The time waster and being a flake.
That’s the secret Captain. Every western cuntress is a No.3, AWALT.
Most of the women in China are No.4 but you get some 1s and 2s. No.3s probably exist but not in the circles I walk in.
Another shitty list article. What is this? Buzzfeed?
Some of my better articles: http://www.examiner.com/mens-dating-advice-in-los-angeles/alan-roger-currie
Well, I won’t be posting any more articles for The Examiner.com any longer…
http://modeone.blogspot.com/2015/08/alan-roger-currie-ends-his-dating.html
It’s not particularly enlightening to classify women as yes, no and maybe (type 1 and type 2). What would be useful is how to find a yes woman and how to take a type 2 maybe wholesome pretender type and turn them into a yes.
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But I guess you have to pay for that insight.
Listen to “Oooooh . . . Say it Again”
The last one is exceptional. I met a girl a few years ago who played that bullshit when I was a beta. If I met that same type of girl I’d run that game so motherfucking hard she wouldn’t know what to do with herself, except fuck me of course.
I’ve seen so many shares of wholesome pretenders, to that point only fact-checking literally saved my life–just like the time I had run-ins with those back in 2011 and made sure I outed them since.
Manipulative timewasters are tricky: giving you a false sense of hope.
Above all, I do agree that reciprocators and rejecters are the most upfront and time-efficient.
It is interesting that the advice above is just for you to be aware of the women you encounter is getting negative feedback. If you just think for one second all of the advice above makes sense, but it is up to you as individual to use the information for insight or not. All of the article above makes sense to me it is simple and as easy 123 abc.
A woman who is a genuine Reciprocator is never going to attempt to mislead a man or engage in any sort of “manipulative head games.” She is going to be upfront and straightforward about whether she is interested in sharing that man’s company in a romantic or sexual manner. May every man be so lucky as to meet and converse with a woman who is a genuine Reciprocator type.”
Lies all Lies. You’ll only encounter that if you are 2-3 points better looking than her on the sexual market value scale.
Black White Asian Latino
I have my own list of 4 types of females as well. Some of them overlap with yours.
1: The user.
This one is pretty straightforward. She is the classic “gold digging” type that may share characteristics from the other 3 types in her socio-interactions with males. She will use any means necessary to achieve her ends, up to and including scarring you mentally. She doesn’t just believe in putting herself first, in her mind no one else is on a list of emotional consideration. This is the one you want to avoid if you value your wallet as well as your sanity, since they tend to be expert mind fuckers.
notable characteristics: highly attractive (in most cases) vain, narcissistic, borderline sociopathic
2: The confuser.
The confuser is a female who does not know what she wants, she only knows she wants something. She is the result of living an immature life. Most females tend to fall into this category by default. The confuser is a female who will drive you up the wall with her seeming insanity, in that she makes such immature/questionable decisions you wonder how she got/gets through life as an adult. She is the definition of chaos. She is a female who would pull out her cell at a gas stop as she’s fueling while texting/calling people about car safety. She is likely to be on some form of medication for bs fabricated conditions that exist only in her imagination. This is the one you want to avoid if you value having a full head of hair.
notable characteristics: young or younger females…stupid, ignorant, easily indoctrinated
3: The abuser.
Like the confuser, this type of female has some sort of mental issue, but here it is much more serious in that it can manifest in serious abuse, mentally or even physically. The abuser is just that…someone who uses words or even objects to attack your for a perceived inadequacy (legitimate or imagined) and to a dangerous degree. She likely is on serious (and necessary) medication to keep from harming others and herself. Out of the 4 listed, this is the most dangerous, in that she can end up taking much more than you wallet or hair (patience) she can end up taking your life. Avoid if you want to uhm…keep living and if you’re not a deliberate masochist.
notable characteristics: (any age group) serious daddy issues, past trauma involving rape, molestation or some other abuse, “cutting” or some other sign of mental psychosis.
4: The refuser.
This is the type of serial naysayer guys sometimes end up with, since like #2 they are pretty common. The refuser is harder to spot on the surface than the others because she is not likely to be a “serial” refuser until she’s actually with you…by then she will do everything on her part to deny you what you want/need unless you fulfill her wants/needs first. She may share tactics with the user but may not necessarily be doing so for the express purpose of getting you to buy her things; she is just selfish as a default and will only value you if you show her value first. This is the one that is the hardest to avoid, but you should avoid unless you like remarrying multiple times.
notable characteristics: (any age group) selfish, petty, a tit for tat person, etc.
These are all a list of negatives that i lump the four basic types of females into. There is a list of positives i have as well, however those apply only to Women, the evolved form of biological females.
Nice work here. I have known all of these women.
…as have i.
I have the scars to prove it lol.
Thank you sir.
Interesting group … good stuff.
Thank you as well sir.
The Disqus comments on this site are fuming with negativity. Can you share with us the positives?
He lived to tell the tale, grew stronger and wiser, and is amongst people open enough to accepting bullshit happens. This site posts articles regularly about self improvement and offers a clear space to round out issues. If you don’t like what you see from the very real people here, there are also people better suited for you on other sites.
Edit: I can’t speak for his list so maybe you might reap some benefits from his shared list of positive traits.
1: The non user.
This is a Woman that does not intentionally pride herself on what she can get from a Man. To a certain extent, EVERY biological female will at some point ask for some token expression of love from her Man, but the non user does not do so deliberately and does not do so often. She believes that she can make her own money and does not need a Man’s to support herself. This view may sound feminist in nature, but given the circumstances it is nonetheless appreciated.
Notable characteristics: doesn’t expect you to pay for every single socio-interaction, carries her own weight, genuinely believes in fairness at least when it comes to the costs involved in a relationship.
Flaw: Likely to possess an un/intentional feminist viewpoint that will have to be nullified in order to become true Marriage material.
Best personal example: My son’s Mother.
2: The non confuser.
This is pretty straightforward. The non confuser is a sophisticated Woman that actually possesses a discernible intellect because she makes no times for games that involve wasting her time and others. The non confuser is likely dedicated to the advancement of her life professionally and otherwise and does not resort to childish distractions most of your default females engage in. She prefers the direct approach. It is important to note however, that every female is bound to the emo-instinctual response (especially during the monthly sabotage that comes with Eve’s curse) so logic should never be considered a consistent feature even with this type of evolved female. This type of Woman however is the one who would likely demonstrate it at least on occasion insofar as to speaking candidly on issues which affect her and her SO. This type of Woman is more likely to be witnessable in households where a single Father has carte blanche parenting rights with his daughter.
Notable characteristics: does not bs/does not bs often and is therefore straight to the point, has high standards, demonstrates legitimate maturity.
Flaw: Likely to be arrogant or obnoxious as a result of being “too candid” aka blunt that will have to be tempered in order to make her Marriage material.
Best personal example: My current Lady.
3: The non abuser.
The “non abuser” is a Woman who would never think twice to hurt someone, especially someone she loves. She cares for others out of genuine warmth and affection. This type of Woman may possess a religious background but it is not necessarily a prerequisite. She does things not to impress, but out of a genuine concern for the well being of others. Her maternal instinct is not something she resist, indeed, she finds it a strength. Out of all the Women listed, she is the one best suited to provide a lasting Marriage and the children that would come with it, since she is traditional in her views of Men and Women.
Notable characteristics: altruism, makes herself available to you whenever possible, believes that Men should be the leaders and Women should be the supporters.
Flaw: This Woman may have unrealistically high secular and religious standards with regard to potential suitors. In other words, she will expect you to treat her as a Lady as society has come to define it in addition to treating her as a Lady as her faith (perception of it, actually) has come to require it. She may place added emphasis on old fashioned courtships where the Man essentially had to prove his worth. This of course, invariably means you are jumping through hoops for someone who will not do so until you have proven yourself worth it. She may not be the most attractive Lady available either. Is the payoff worth it? You decide.
Best personal example: My fundamentalist ex.
4: The non refuser.
The non refuser is the ultimate definition of submissive. She likes her Man to take charge and will cater to a lot or all of his whims (especially sexual) often. She gives in to all of his (reasonable) requests because she genuinely wants to please her Man. She is not a feminist in the strict understanding of the word, and believes in a Man taking charge. She tends to be attractive and is not shy at flaunting her beauty. She may however possess an internal conflict in that she believes in equality on the surface, but in practice she is submissive out of preference and pleasure. It is important to note that non refusers make great sexual partners but not so great life partners, due to their penchant for getting easily bored. The wandering Alpha male may find this type the most preferable.
Notable characteristics: aims to please, defers to the Man to make decisions, tends to be passionate.
Flaw: For those seeking Marriage material Women, they may want to look elsewhere. The non refuser may be receptive to nuptials however if she grows bored in them you may find yourself summarily divorced. They enjoy excitement and detest boredom. May also enjoy dressing risque on occasion. Recommended for Alpha wanderers only.
Best personal example: My super hot Colombian ex in NY.
Another exhibition of your discriminating mind and ability to think soundly. Well done.
Thank you sir. It all comes from experience.
Incidentally, some Women may possess characteristics from more than one category, but the majority of their personality will fall into one of the 4 basic groups. Some may have gone from one category to another or even the rest of them during the course of their life, as they try to “reinvent’ themselves, grow in faith, etc.
As is the case with the negatives, gauging them in their behaviors with no less an ability than your average scientist will help you determine if you are indeed with a Woman, or merely a female pretending to be one (confuser)
Very good analysis, Daniel. Something else we could add is that although many will have one dominant trait, all these traits may at some point exist in the same woman. This can either be in the form of her using different strategies with different men, or even changing strategies within the same relationship, according to what her opportunistic instinct tells her to do. She might also change tactics if your perceived status in her eyes changes, as well as using different tactics depending on where she rates a man’s SMV relative to hers. We definitely have to watch out and be able to spot these behaviours.
This comment right here is pure fucking gold. They DO have an “opportunistic instinct” that is in stark contrast to the “self sacrificial” instinct that many men have. In an environment of evolutionary adaptation these forces may have someone balanced each other out – a man interposing his body between his family and destruction while the woman eagerly flees with the children. No more. Today such behaviors by men have become maladaptive and must be jettisoned as soon as possible – in one sense, thats all the red pill really is… teaching men to subvert their worst instincts while embracing their most productive ones.
“although many will have one dominant trait, all these traits may at some point exist in the same woman. ”
Absolutely. A considerable number of females tend to possess characteristics from more than one category, or may have possessed them all at some point in their lives. My list (just as with the other Daniel’s) is not meant to be the end all be all regarding female shortcomings, but more akin to a potential reference point.
Generally speaking, females will stay true to their shade as a comfortable default, and will return to that shade before long. Like with vampires, the trick to spotting their true nature is to not be fooled in the seductive appearance, but inwaiting for them to return to their coffin so you can see their true ugly side.
This is why i listed the most basic psycho-social behaviors of your average benighted female; i presume it was the same with the other Daniel.
Thanks!
I think all men could conceivably come up with their own unique list of “4 Types of Women Every Man is Likely to Encounter”; A better, more appropriate title for my article could have been, “4 Ways that Women Generally Communicate Their Interest in a Man … or Lack Thereof” (but that would have been too long … LOL)
That is what my four categories are based on (i.e., Reciprocators, Rejecters, Wholesome Pretenders, and Manipulative Timewasters). Not really “personality quirks,” general behavioral traits, and/or strengths and weaknesses of their character and integrity, but rather simply how women generally go about responding to a man’s expressed desire to share their company in a romantic and/or sexual manner.
Do they let a man know quickly and straightforwardly that they are interested in sharing his company in a romantic and/or sexual manner? (e.g., The Reciprocator archetype)
Do they let a man know quickly and straightforwardly that they are NOT interested in sharing his company in a romantic and/or sexual manner? (e.g., The Rejecter archetype)
Do they first attempt to see how they can ‘use’ that man and exploit that man for tangible and intangible ‘favors’ and self-serving objectives before politely letting that man know that all they want is purely platonic companionship from him? (e.g., The Manipulative Timewaster archetype)
Do they initially or temporarily attempt to give a man the misleading impression that they are prudish, monogamy-oriented “good girls” who never, ever engage in short-term and/or non-monogamous ‘casual’ sex when they know deep down that they would have no problem indulging in one or more episodes of casual sex with that man? (e.g., The Wholesome Pretender archetype)
My first audiobook, “Mode One” describes the four general ways that single heterosexual men usually go about verbally communicating their romantic and/or sexual desires, interests, and intentions to women;
My second audiobook, “The Possibility of Sex” goes into detail about the “Manipulative Timewaster” types and what signs and characteristics to look for;
My third audiobook, “Oooooh . . . Say it Again” (currently my best-selling audiobook) describes in detail how a man can learn to use his voice and overall conversation skills and ‘verbal seduction skills’ to quickly and effectively identify the women who are “Wholesome Pretender” types
” think all men could conceivably come up with their own unique list of “”4 Types of Women Every Man is Likely to Encounter”
Indeed. Evidence here supports your theory lol.
Since the subject itself has been broached, have you considered writing for this site using this or some other relevant thematic premise?
If you’re an author your insight (if not your opportunism:) may prove beneficial.
Now that’s a thought. Thank you for the suggestion Daniel … much appreciated.
Great list Daniel you should have wrote this article also I would like to add one more.
#5 The Perpetual Victim: Whether bitching about her 3 children from different fathers calling all men are losers or being raped by an ex BF 10 years ago as the catalyst for her traumatic existence.
Every negative event in in this women’s life is someone else’s (usually men) fault and never due to her poor life choices.
Agreed, although the perpetual victim could theoretically fall under the “confuser” category because of an obvious immature mind.
“Every negative event in in this women’s life is someone else’s (usually men) fault and never due to her poor life choices.”
A great sign of immaturity. The canard that Women mature faster than Men is obviously total bs.
Agreed but other confuser types enjoy creating drama around them or some that just don’t know what the hell they want.
I noticed the Perpetual Victim types are becoming more and more common here in the USA and felt this type merited being mentioned.
Feel free to mention it friend. My list is not the end all be all, but merely a reference point. You are free to add to it as you like.
The vast majority of church girls fall under category 3.
Quintessentially, there is only one type of woman: the slut, subtly or transparently.
I would vehemently disagree with the assertion that “all women are sluts,” but … of the women who are indeed highly promiscuous ‘slut’ types, I would assert that the vast majority of them are ‘sluts disguised as good girls’ (i.e., “Wholesome Pretender” types) rather than being women who are totally open and forthright about the fact that they love having multiple male sex partners
What I meant is that all women are at the end of the day sluts to different degrees. Some are overtly sluts, others are shyly sluts. It’s their strategy to survive and get the best from this world. In other words, they are opportunistically sluts (sexually, materially, financially, psychologically etc.).
Of course then we can classify them into certain types like the Wholesome Pretender and others.
Okay … gotcha.
After the age of 20 you are fucked, all reciprocators are already taken. Those who aren’t lucky are left with broken goods that are unfaithful and manipulative.
Making categories for women to fall into is just RIDICULOUS.
Each and Every Single Woman living on the face of earth has all of these characteristics within herself. The point is, she might use “this” one to achieve “this” end, she might use “that” one to achieve “that” end.
Women act according to their desires, needs, goals, plans..etc. She might act like an angel because she is getting something out of it, two minutes later, she might act like a crazy bitch, not because she’s crazy or her “hormones” are messing up with her head, but because what she “wants” at this moment is totally different.
If you want to get to the bottom line of any woman you interact with, all you have to do is “Observe and Analyze”, without categorizing her or rushing into false conclusions. Women are master pretenders, among many other things they are totally capable of.
Always keep in mind that, Time Reveals Everything.