When East Meets West

China is going through a cultural crisis due to a huge generation gap between parents who lived in rural communes and their children who crave smartphones and Western values. At the same time, Chinese culture still expects children to take of the parents, and are constantly reminded of their “duty” through a variety of shaming tactics. Chinese parents actually push children into buying apartments they can barely afford to guarantee they’ll have a place to stay when they get old, as this article in Aeon Magazine describes.

‘I have a friend the same age as me,’ Luo the young professional said, ‘whose parents just paid the down-payment on her apartment. But her mom has been staying with her since November, and she wants to stay on. It’s a one-bedroom flat.’ Buying their children apartments isn’t just a simple investment for parents, but a guarantee, at least in their minds, of an old age spent in their children’s house.

With this backdrop, the Chinese approach to dating appears to be transactional, based mostly on resources instead of love.

The media often deplore the commercialised nature of young love, exemplified in 2010 by Ma Nuo, a contestant on a dating show; when asked by an unemployed contender if she would ride with him on his bike, she replied: ‘I’d rather cry in a BMW than laugh on a bicycle.’ It’s true that the bling-laden snapshots of triumphant gold-diggers on dating sites and boastful blogs are deeply off-putting. But the criteria that parents give matchmakers, or advertise on placards that some of them carry around parks at the weekend while looking for suitable spouses for their unmarried offspring, are just as centered around salary, car and apartment.

Our Indian correspondent in the field shared similar sentiments with regard to the pressure that his parents placed on finding a mate, seemingly above his best interests. Why are Asian parents so vested in their children’s spousal selection?

At university, Sally dated a rural boy who was a student representative and, highly unusually, a sincere believer in Communism. ‘He was so honest,’ she told me, ruefully. ‘He wouldn’t even take pencils from the student council room to use for himself.’

But he couldn’t live up to the standards that Sally and her parents expected. She wanted a boyfriend who could buy her the phones and handbags she aspired to, while her parents wanted someone from a wealthy or well-connected family who could walk into a guaranteed career after university. She soon dumped him and, helped by a new nose paid for by her mother, snared a wealthy boy on campus.

A couple of years into the new relationship, however, she found the positions reversed. After being introduced to her boyfriend’s parents, his news was grim. ‘I can’t marry you,’ he told her bluntly. ‘My parents expect me to marry a girl of my own class.’

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‘My mother keeps calling me and reminding me I only have a couple more years to find someone,’ commented a weary 25-year-old friend. ‘Of course, she wants me to pick one of the boring losers she keeps trying to set me up with.’

You know a country is doing well economically when the women cast aside “boring” men and instead hold out for an exciting alpha. I’ve never heard the women of Ukraine complain that their men are boring. Could increasing use of the word “boring” by females to describe the opposite sex be a reliable way to predict economic prosperity, sort of like the Big Mac index?

In response to social and parental prodding toward placing material concerns first, some young Chinese have invented a new term, ‘naked marriage,’ meaning getting wed purely for love, without house, ring, ceremony or car. The idea promises romance, but opinion is decidedly mixed, even from the young. A 2010 poll on sohu.com found that the majority of young women opposed the idea, seeing it as a way for men to dodge their responsibilities. Tellingly, the majority of young men supported it.

Western man, in spite of the poor female selection he must face, at least doesn’t have his parents hanging over his head, pressuring him not only on which woman to date, but to also to buy an apartment so they can move in and mooch off him while shaming him out of bachelorhood. Someone always has it worse, I suppose.

It takes a certain grit to dodge convention altogether. Luo, the young professional, saw no need to play the dating game at all, instead living with a moderately impoverished foreigner in his mid-thirties. ‘My mother has stopped pestering me about it, but I know she’d rather I was looking for a conventional Chinese guy, with an apartment and a career. My father says it’s OK because my boyfriend is English, not a Yankee or a Jap.

With Chinese youth rejecting their parents values, eager to hop on a Western-style carousel, are we looking at the potential for a poosy paradise eruption in five or so years? Only time will tell.

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91 thoughts on “When East Meets West”

  1. Some parts of the Manosphere are seriously stuck in the 1980’s or at least some post-Vietnam war era fetish shit with all this asian girl crap.

      1. Samseau please link me to the forum rules. Was it the use of expletives? Please advise.

        1. I personally wouldn’t ban you, but this is not my blog. I respect the right of any owner of a site to ban whomever they wish even if I think they are acting like an idiot. I do think it’s funny that the impression you give off is that you don’t like Asian women which is fine to me. Roosh in previous articles on his other sight was explicit about Asians not being his favorite women. I did think your funny and weird comment deserved a funny mocking response so I did that above.

        2. I was just trying to make a funny and weird comment to get conversation going. I was the first commenter on the article.

      2. Was it the use of expletives that’s ban worthy? Please advise.
        Is it against the rules to express the opinion that manosphere obsession with asian girls is passe?
        Was it in speculating that the US male interest in the Asian female has some or any origin in its military and maritime tradition, sailor’s adventures occupation of Hawaii, WWII, Korean War, and Vietnam?

        1. This article is about a cultural trend that is transforming a country with 1 billion people. You didn’t even read the article and start bashing the manosphere because of an “Asian fetish?”
          Think of how ridiculous this would sound if you were having a conversation with another man, face to face.

        2. Men are willing to have sex with more women than women are willing to have sex with men. Men also like having sex with their own women, keeping other men from having sex with their women and then having sex with other men’s women.
          All adult heterosexual men are looking for the smallest tightest most pleasing adult human vaginas which can handle it to pleasure their penises; and, there are virtually no exceptions to this. East Asians also have a reputation for having smaller genitalia which translates to men thinking that East Asian women have smaller, tighter and more pleasing vaginas for men’s penises be this true or not. Anecdotally, I’ve personally found East Asian women’s vaginas to be on average smaller, tighter and pleasing to my penis than other races of women, and I won’t vouch for anyone else’s experience. Sadly, I’ve found that despite East Asian women having smaller vaginas and being less fat on average than White women that they on average have smaller breasts, smaller bums and aren’t as muscular or as thick boned as other races of women which translates into that a man had to be more gentle on average in order not to hurt the East Asian ladies. I’ve found that many East Asian ladies had smaller, tighter and more pleasing vaginas even when I knew that some of these East Asian ladies had more men put meat in them and do it quite often than a fully operating sausage factory which is not something I found as common among other races women.
          I’m a non-Jewish non-Hispanic White man of fully European and Christian Catholic heritage. Please be as specific as me. Are you a man or a woman and what is your race?

        3. Sam, I read the article and my comments were not at odds with the central premise, nor did they attack any particular individual.
          I think many are aware of the cultural trend of westernization and modernity.
          The ending question was whether or not this trend would lead to a ‘poosy paradise’ in 5 or more years.
          But my experience in Japan and S. Korea is that this poosy paradise is already happening, and one only needs to ask any marine or sailor who served in any regional conflict there, or later who were stationed at any number of bases.
          Naturally it was poosy paradise based on other female instincts, mostly based in hypergamy and the allure of the foreign man.
          If today the poosy paradise in the east will develop differently, and whether it is based on similar trends noted in the west since the end of WWII is also probably a granted.
          I think raising the question alone as to the ‘paradise or not’ status of various east asian countries is not ‘asian fetish’.
          But I hold and can defend the position that notable portion of readers interested in the questions posed by the article may indeed have an asian fetish.
          I’m not knockin’ an asian fetish, and I don’t think ‘fetish’ needs to have any loaded or negative meaning attached to it.

        4. I think some of it has to do with genetic variation. Asians want to mix it up with whites or blacks and vice versa. I mean hey, people with mixed heritage usually look good. At the very least, they look exotic.

        5. Good response, and there’s nothing to disagree with about what you said above. I agree with you that the poosy paradise is already happening. It has been happening in Seoul, South Korea for over a decade now. I can’t say as much about other East Asian countries as I had considerably less experience.

        6. I’m a non-Jewish Male, culturally Hispanic and genetically Europoid of mostly Iberian and Germanic extraction, with some shadings of New World aboriginal and Irish for good color.
          I live in Belgrade, Serbia (former Yugoslavia)
          I think I would agree about the relatively unimpressive builds of most asian women – that factor the primary turn-off for me if I’m not attracted. Most of the half dozen or dozen or so asian girls I was with were about 20 years ago when I was about 12-15 years old. My member being smaller than it is now, I can’t recall them being particularly tight even as they were themselves in the same age range – but none were loose as I have found in other races …. recalling just now.
          My girlfriend now is Serbian but clearly not of Slavic extraction in the narrow sense, but of Turkish even east-Turkish descent, with a number of features giving her a somewhat east-asian appearance.
          She is extraordinarily tight, and when I went away on business back the US and returned after a few months here to Serbia, I was actually unable to fully insert.
          Being relatively well endowed, but by no means monstrous, I’ve found that ultimate pussy tightness isn’t lacking for me, but also isn’t my primary goal.
          In all physical categories except for quality of complexion that matter most to me, most Asian women to not score well.
          I prefer the Caucasian (in the true sense) prototypes – ranging from non-Semitic Iranian through the Armenians, upwards north the Slavs/Russians and then swooping west across the trans-pontic plains hitting the Crimean and Ukrainian bitches, until near Belarus or Poland, then jutting South into your South-Slav regions like Romania and Serbia.
          Of all the places, I would say for facial and body perfection in the classical Greco-Roman conception, the Balkans takes the cake.
          Breast shape and feel is a bit more important than raw size alone, though size is a real factor.
          Waist to hip ratio is the primary bodily feature that gets me. Asian largely fail in this arena.

        7. Japan has been basically sexville for most of our adult lives! S. Korea is the most like Japan out of any asian country. It was practically modeled after it.

        8. But *ehem* I see some guys here who always say, Asian are women are better, they’re more feminine… I don’t think that’s really true. Maybe they treat white guys better because hey, you are “different”, but supply and demand, man. If white guys flooded the “poosy paradise”, I think you’d be disappointed to find it all dried up. And Uncle Elmer has married a nice Asian woman, good for him, but does that mean any Asian woman you marry would be nice? Search “Mordeth13” on YouTube, he’s a vlogger who has LIVED in Taiwan for more than 15 years? And he’s married to a local, and he’s really not happy in that marriage. He doesn’t come across to me as beta, but hey, it’s a different perspective that white guys with “yellow fever” might want to consider.

        9. I think the foreigner element is very strong, and women in general are often unable to control themselves in the presence of a foreign man – danger, mystery, appeal, etc.
          A woman must have been particularly raised with a particular form of strict colonial or imperial ‘racism’ in order to control her lustful instincts around a foreign man.
          The entire US anglo woman narrative is all about her father keeping her away from the blacks, mexicans, apaches.

        10. Don’t you think it’s because of the strict control that a woman wants to break away from that and fuck any dangerous, mysterious guy she can find?

        11. You are right that Balkans women are beautiful in the way you describe at least when they are young. I will add that they usually not only have well formed breasts but they have big natural breasts too while still being in good shape more than most other women. I like what you like about them too which is their Caucasian bone structure of their faces, shapely bodies with good waist to hip ratio, nicely shaped bums, well shaped big natural breasts which feel good, dark hair, dark eyes and well tanned skin.
          In any race or ethnicity of women there are good things and bad things to say about them. However, a higher percentage of East Asian ladies age better on average than other women even though I agree with you that Balkans women are better to look at under the age of 30 than East Asian women. Keep in mind that your Serbian girlfriend’s tight pussy would probably be more rare in her country than say South Korea. I would say that women of European descent particularly Balkan women have a higher percentage of gorgeous women than East Asian women, but they also have a higher percentage of ugly women too. I would say that young East Asian women very highly center on being cute and average without as many gorgeous or ugly ones to look at as young European descended women. With the lesser number of ugly women, East Asian women have a higher percentage of women who are bangable than other races of women, and if you didn’t notice it in comparing the under 30 crowd then you’ve got to be blind when it comes to the over 30 crowd. Most men go for cute and even average as they are often overwhelmed by gorgeous and repelled by ugly. Even great Players and men good at GAME sometimes get overwhelmed by gorgeous as it can be intimidating.
          However, if you google the names of in shape voluptuous Korean women named 26 year old Im Ji-hye and 42 year old Kim Hye-soo especially when she was younger but she’s still pretty to me. There’s other East Asian women I like that are just as beautiful, in shape and voluptuous and you can google those too then you will see what kinds of East Asian women I liked most when I was there. I liked the voluptuous beautiful East Asian women more than the skinny ones even though I liked the skinny ones too. I acknowledge that in shape voluptuous East Asian women are harder to find than other races of women, but they are still there. I like all races and ethnicities of women but I definitely have my preferences. I know life is usually a tradeoff of this for that and that it is rare to have it all. For those of you who would slam me for liking 42 Kim Hye-soo’s beauty, I will say this: 1) She is still beautiful even though less so when she was in her twenties. and that’s to be expected as we all age and get physically uglier if we live long enough—-NO EXCEPTIONS!!!, 2) in my opinion, she looks much younger than her years, and 3) I’m a 45 year old man who admires beauty in what few beautiful women there are in their 40’s. Even Heartiste(Roissy) admired Monica Bellucci well into her 40s as I have done too.

        12. I agree with you. This is why I responded the way I did to Uncle Elmer. East Asian ladies act like they want to get married and know what they’re doing in that regard better than Western ladies. However, there is a higher percentage of East Asian women who would be disasters as wives and/or mothers than many Western men think. Honestly, there are definitely a higher percentage of East Asian women who are good mothers than Western ladies, but it comes at the price of them being demanding and ruthless wives as well as demanding and very often ruthless but loving mothers. They usually want the men to provide many good things for the children so the man must be able to do that. They complain if their husband isn’t doing better or their children aren’t doing better than others. They want their children to be winners at any cost on average. I saw how it was in South Korea and can’t imagine it being much different in Taiwan or any other East Asian particularly Japan, Korea, China(includes Hong Kong and Macau) and Taiwan(98% ethnic Chinese) as well as wherever their most of their ethnic descendants live in the world which might be Southeast Asia, North America etc.

        13. It’s this dream that no guy will achieve. I see a lot of men working hard, chasing a wife. When they get it, will they be happy? I think eventually, when they tell themselves often enough that yeah, they are happy, they start believing it. This is usually after the kids are out to college. But between those years of raising the kids, and constantly being nagged by their wives, you can see in their face that they’ve had their souls sucked out of their bodies.

        14. Since you are philosophing about where to find the most beautiful women I thought you guys might enjoy this link: http://fstoppers.com/the-average-faces-of-women-around-the-world
          It shows how the average faces of women around the world look.
          I personally prefer the Netherlands. However I think beauty is unlike attraction something that can be influenced. Living in Europe it seems naturally to me that I am attracted to Caucasian women as Movies, TV, Commercials etc. tells you how a beautyful woman looks like.
          Having lived in SEA in my past I wasnt attracted to Asian women at all in the beginning. However after a month I couldnt get enough of them and started to dislike white women. After coming back to Europe I could see my transformation in taste going back and I started liking European women again.
          Nevertheless “liking” in these terms is only refered to looks and appearance in general. Another thing I never got used to was the stereotyp behaviour of western women. I guess this is due to the fact that I hardly watch any movies or TV-Shows. I therefore can not escape the ominipresence of the Westernbeautystandard telling me how a beautyful woman looks like, but I can ignore the Media telling me what character a “perfect” woman should have.

        15. Since you are philosophing about where to find the most beautiful women I thought you guys might enjoy this link: http://fstoppers.com/the-average-faces-of-women-around-the-world
          It shows how the average faces of women around the world look.
          I personally prefer the Netherlands. However I think beauty is unlike attraction something that can be influenced. Living in Europe it seems naturally to me that I am attracted to Caucasian women as Movies, TV, Commercials etc. tells you how a beautyful woman looks like.
          Having lived in SEA in my past I wasnt attracted to Asian women at all in the beginning. However after a month I couldnt get enough of them and started to dislike white women. After coming back to Europe I could see my transformation in taste going back and I started liking European women again.
          Nevertheless “liking” in these terms is only refered to looks and appearance in general. Another thing I never got used to was the stereotyp behaviour of western women. I guess this is due to the fact that I hardly watch any movies or TV-Shows. I therefore can not escape the ominipresence of the Westernbeautystandard telling me how a beautyful woman looks like, but I can ignore the Media telling me what character a “perfect” woman should have.

        16. Since you are philosophing about where to find the most beautiful women I thought you guys might enjoy this link: http://fstoppers.com/the-average-faces-of-women-around-the-world
          It shows how the average faces of women around the world look.
          I personally prefer the Netherlands. However I think beauty is unlike attraction something that can be influenced. Living in Europe it seems naturally to me that I am attracted to Caucasian women as Movies, TV, Commercials etc. tells you how a beautyful woman looks like.
          Having lived in SEA in my past I wasnt attracted to Asian women at all in the beginning. However after a month I couldnt get enough of them and started to dislike white women. After coming back to Europe I could see my transformation in taste going back and I started liking European women again.
          Nevertheless “liking” in these terms is only refered to looks and appearance in general. Another thing I never got used to was the stereotyp behaviour of western women. I guess this is due to the fact that I hardly watch any movies or TV-Shows. I therefore can not escape the ominipresence of the Westernbeautystandard telling me how a beautyful woman looks like, but I can ignore the Media telling me what character a “perfect” woman should have.

    1. What’s the matter? Did no Asian girl ever love you long time? Ah! So Sad!! Too Bad!!!

    2. You sound like a western woman…..afraid of feminine women and the competition they represenet.

      1. Nope, not a woman. I would also not call Asian women particularly feminine in the sense that matters to me. Girly, yes. Feminine, not so much.

    3. Perhaps you are referring to my Spearhead essay such as “A Man Wants a Wife, Not a Co-Worker”. If that’s not for you, then you might enjoy this “Yellow Fever” site, which provides a forum on “love and dating”, though they so far have ignored my offers for commentary :
      http://www.theyreallsobeautiful.com
      We live in a culture which exalts holy matrimony for men who perform anal sex on each other but labels as perverse (“asian fetish”) Western man’s attraction to slender, feminine, charming women.

      1. You are correct in that I’ve found a higher percentage of East Asian ladies especially if they were raised over there act more like they want to be a wife not a co-worker to a man than Western ladies at least before they get married.

    4. The fetish is for slender women who act feminine. Asian girls used to be quite good at that. It appears that that window is sadly closing.
      Most “Yellow Fever” is “Sick and Tired of Loud and Obnoxious Fat Chicks Fever”

  2. I usually dont like Asian girls, but I’d do some very impolite things to #1,#2, and #4. #3 looks too fobby next to her comrades, though she’d get the D too.

  3. Cute baby.
    China has a vast glut of single virginal men due to years of eugenics. So many so that there are entire regions of them living in poverty. Never mind their own economic bubble built upon constructing cities that no one can afford to live in. Not good for anyone.

  4. This is what I’ve been trying to say since day 1 here. But the more you white guys move to Asia, the more disposable you’ll be. Supply and demand, man.

      1. “Insinuate that disagreeing with my outcome lesson means the reader is beta.” ~ Thatch’s new post. Lol, this is for questioning your alphaness, isn’t it?

      2. You don’t want a bunch of foreigners fucking your women, neither do we.
        Regardless, multiculturalism will promote leftist idiocy and lead Asia to ruin.
        Even if all immigrants were hot women, it would still create identity problems a few generations down the road. So, stay out. Go to South Asia, they worship whitey there.

        1. Hey hey hey, even the South don’t want these d-bags here. If they were as alpha as they claim to be, they would have whipped their women back into submission.

        2. The problem is not whipping women back into submission. The problem is whipping women from being obese BACK TO BEING BEAUTIFUL.

        3. You need to get over this “your” women, “our” women dichotomy. There is no “your” and “our”. It makes you look very insecure, and it is also a limiting belief that holds you back. Free your mind.
          There is just a bunch of women, and the world is our marketplace. And it is yours also. Women are going to make their own choices on who they want to copulate with, regardless what you or I or anyone else says. You can either adapt to the brave new world, or crouch in a corner drinking makkoli and shochu and cursing guys who are pulling ass.

        4. No dice. It’s not even about the women (I’m gay). It’s about not letting East Asia turn into a multicultural shithole. So if you people manage to get Asian wives, take em back to your country and have your half-breed kids there.

        5. Do you only suck chinese dick? As a gay man that must be awful. Seriously get a nice black one

        6. I fucked 4 chinese girls last weekend. Have u even been to Asia? You are SOOO AMERICAN.
          I have never heard Roosh bitch about foreigners fucking American girls

    1. True but as long as western companies such as Loreal control the worldwide beautybusiness the Caucasian ethnic will be implemented into every culture as the beautystandard.
      No one does plastic surgery to get a flatter nose or smaller eyes. Every ethnic besides the Caucasian one wants to become whiter and even caucasians are changing their mind.
      If you take a look at the beautyrolemodels all over the World you will eventually find caucasian looks in them. Done by plastic surgery.

      1. you’re fucking deluded. its the same standards everywhere, just like you wouldn’t have an asian getting plastic surgery to have a thicker waist/thighs, its a downgrade. You could say that since asian women are generally slimmer western women getting surgery to look asian. pull your head out of your ass

      2. You have a point. I personally like Caucasian features and find Asian women with Caucasian features to be exotic. But it’s funny that white people get tans when in Asia we want to get whiter.
        But I don’t get how your point relates to my original comment. Sorry for the late reply, I haven’t logged in to Disqus in a while and they didn’t email me.

  5. I’m not sure how far back a commenter pseudo-named Gorbachev said this. I think it was about two years ago on Roissy’s(Heartiste’s) http://www.heartistesite.wordpress.com/ as well as Ferdinand Bardamu’s site. I couldn’t find his comments if a I desperately tried to save my soul. I haven’t seen nor heard from him in a while. I disagreed with him on Bardamu’s site, and he never wanted to blog with me which is fine with me. I don’t personally know him. However, I did agree with him about his assessment of Seoul, South Korea because I lived there shortly before him and believed him when he wrote about Shanghai, China. I’ll try to remember, summarize and be as truthful as possible in a sense of being just to him. He stated that the Koreans especially in Seoul were by far more discrete than Westerners, but there was pretty just as much fornication and adultery going on. He said the Chinese especially in Shanghai were having just as much and more fornication and adultery than Koreans but one had to be at least as discrete as the Koreans. He stated that it was harder for a foreigner to have any kind of a relationship with a Korean woman than a Chinese woman. He stated that there are a lower percentage of Chinese men and Korean men who have GAME than Western men, but that these Chinese and Korean men who had GAME were getting more sex and more partners than anyone else including the foreigners and that initially he found the amount of sex and partners these men got to be amazing as they were cleaning up with the women more than any other men in the world he saw. Gorbachev was a well travelled man too. He stated that even foreign men with little GAME and were ugly were doing well with Chinese women in Shanghai but not nearly as much with Korean women in Seoul. He stated that what we would call gold-diggers was more common over in these two nations especially in China so be careful. He also said that it would be more difficult if not entirely possible for most men not to play along with women’s gold digging ways even if they knew GAME. I hope this helps. If you can find his comments on this subject, it is a wonderful read in my opinion.

  6. I wonder if the poor ratio of women vs men has anything to do with chinese women adopting values similar to the west. Overvaluing, etc. Also, I have heard reliable firsthand reports that chinese dudes in large numbers are seeking women from the surrounding countries to take home as brides.
    Also, I think you’re definately on to something with the “boring index” though I used to think (American, especially) women thought certain guys were boring because they were too shallow/dumb/ignorant/lazy to know what the guys were actually about. I guess it works either way. Btw, is there anyone more boring or tiresome than someone who needs to be constantly entertained? That’s ninety percent of bangable American women. Basically, they act like toddlers.

    1. I think the ratio problem in China is that people would normally abort female fetuses during pregnancy. This had to do with with a combination of the one child policy and the expectation that the labors of the male child will aid the parents, whereas only surplus resources can go into a female child since she will be married off and her family none the richer for it.

      1. And in the rural areas they are allowed to have more than one child because they need more hands on the farm. So the girls with more traditional values, bla bla bla… probably come from these rural areas. So I guess, if you want an Asian wife, marry one from these rural areas? Which of course, is common sense, since women “marry up” and men “marry down”. If you are not rich, don’t dream about having a lasting relationship with an Asian gold digger.

    2. Not really. The gender imbalance in China is not really significant, it’s only a tiny percentage when you factor in the huge population size.
      The reason these things are happening in China is the same as anywhere else.
      Not getting married used to be consider odd, even sinful. It was practically your duty to create offspring, continue the bloodline, marry into a wealthy family etc. But like all developed countries, extra money means people shun tradition for their own self interests. In this case it’s “love” or free time.
      If other developed Asian nations are any example, however, China’s society will likely always remain relatively conservative compared to the West, and not descend entirely into that failed model.

  7. My take: the demographics are not in men’s favor. The biggest looming problem for men exploring China & Korea is the demographic problem. There is now a huge and growing surplus of men there. Due to a cultural preference for male children, the male/female ratios are now very big, and getting bigger. What that will mean: women will become more independent, empowered, spoiled, and able to have their pick of the litter. And we all know where that leads.
    So while it’s true that Westernization is proceeding, it’s not going to be enough to counteract the other negative trends.
    But I will say that ethnic Chinese in Malaysia and Indonesia are good to go…focus on them. They have none of the cultural baggage and mercenary gold-diggery that mainland Chinese do.
    Other ways to profit from the gender time-bomb: buy stock in companies that invest in birth control products, or companies that invest in water purification and distribution. Because China has a huge water problem that is only going to get worse.

  8. I met a married chinese FOB couple last week, and talked with them for 2 hours. I asked a lot of questions about their culture and current state of affairs. Feminism and consumerism is getting in there, just like in other southern countries. I would say their “progress” is like the america of the 60’s, but it’s changing really fast…

  9. chinese can be very materialistic… it’s part of the culture of saving face.
    back in the 80s in Hong Kong, guys would literally swim from china in nothing but their under pants and arrive penniless.
    slowly they’d earn some money and first they’d buy a good suit, then a rolex, then a fancy car, all while still living 10 people to a one room studio apartment.
    eventually, they’d go for somewhere better to live, but so long as they looked good, that was ok…
    i’ve stay in hotels in china that look like presidential palaces until you get past the lobby and then the elevator comes out on the 30th floor in this dingy corridor, pipes along the ceiling, torn carpet, stains on the wall, cockroaches, the rooms filthy, stink of stale tobacco smoke and all broken down.
    you start wondering if the elevator was some kind of time machine that took you back in time or something, so you go back to the lobby but no, it’s all gold and jade and marble tiles….
    it’s all about show….
    you complain about america, but my god, if this lot become the world no#1 we’re more than doomed

    1. Well the hotels in Hong Kong are furnished throughout. Gotta fake it til you make it. It’s better than being a total, constant failure, like many third world countries.

  10. To state for the record, I wouldn’t bang any of the girls in the top picture. Well, maybe the one on the right.

    1. I can tell you don’t care for asian women. And I think it shows in this article. Personally I would chose anyone one of those girls over any of the girls you photographed in Ukraine. So I’m not going to trust your judgement on this particular subject.
      My experience has been that Chinese women are far far less materialistic than Americans. And its pretty difficult for women there to get married. Not being a primarily churchian society, they are pretty far along with the marriage strike now.
      Of course Trad media is always trying to skew the meaning of the data, by saying that its because of the gender gap, the “missing girls” phenomenon. It’s another example of clueless reporting.
      The fact is that men there are under a lot less pressure to marry and it shows. I know a number of Chinese and Taiwanese men who have no desire at all to marry, they are free to choose in a man’s paradise of available women. I’ve been there and I’ve experienced it and I have to agree, why spoil a good thing by getting married?
      Here are the statistics to back me up.
      http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-bZyXJRW-f8M/TlQGTu9dlhI/AAAAAAAAAyI/sCUhlOdiydE/s1600/pic%252B2.gif&imgrefurl=http://teachingwithdata.blogspot.com/2011/08/marriage-in-asia.html&h=296&w=595&sz=62&tbnid=-53V9nmFrI36YM:&tbnh=60&tbnw=120&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dchinese%2Bmarriage%2Brate%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=chinese+marriage+rate&usg=__g2C5wYmuTncAVhQ0A0Jxh-iqOFA=&docid=GGcDPy9n9SfAGM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=4v16UfbKFOH2igKCr4CIBA&ved=0CFUQ9QEwBw&dur=310

      1. Stat all you like, you’re still full of shit. Asian’s not materialistic? Really? Chinese chicks have a hard time getting married? That would explain the low birth rate. I didn’t read further… read enough crap to warrant a response.

    2. I d bang them all. I lost interest in white women a few years ago, but since I moved from Japan to China I am getting white curious again. There are so many Eastern European models here its great.

  11. East meets West works both ways. Apparently, Chinese dudes are gunning for Western women. If you’re thinking of getting a Russian bride, you should act fast before they run out of inventory:
    http://www.chinasmack.com/2013/pictures/taiwanese-guys-russian-girlfriend.html
    Single Chinese Men Encouraged by Taiwanese Guy’s Russian Girlfriend
    by Fauna on Friday, March 29, 2013
    FROM THE ARTICLE: “@萌娘百科的更新姬: #Encouragement/Motivational# A Taiwan zhainan successfully captured a Russian girl. Owing to a severe gender imbalance in Russia, over 10 million Russian girls can’t find men to marry, so international marriages are extremely trendy amongst Russian girls and furthermore, Russian girls’ demands in a perfect man (shown at the end) aren’t high either. So guys who can’t find girls, what are you waiting for? Go find a Russian girl, both pretty and strong, able to catch thieves and beat up hooligans, no need to fear others bullying you ever again.”
    Perhaps, we can work out a 3-way or 4-way exchange. Let them have Murcan women in exchange for whatever… they won’t see it coming.

    1. Well he snagged a Russian, good for him.
      When I was much younger I used to dream about marrying a blonde, blue-eyed barbie. Until I got in university and realized most white women are some combination of fat/feminist/cunts.

  12. Parents bring you into this world and are the reason for your life, education and ability to survive, a little gratitude in their old age would not be amiss.
    Not talking about marriage but about being their pillar of support.

  13. In answer to the title of your post (yes, I didn’t bother reading the rest), of course they fucking are. Seriously, you needed a post on this? It’s been common knowledge for decades that Asian chicks want to look like westerners. Now they’re getting fat like westerners too. Why am I even bothering writing a response to a useless fucking article? Fuck it, I’m off.

  14. I have experience with Chinese women. They are the worst of the worst.
    They pretend to be submissive, but as soon as they have their claws in you, they are without exception the most aggressive, stupid, bitchy, materialistic shitheads the world has ever seen.
    American girls, as bad as they are, are vastly preferable.

    1. and you know this from your one chinese girl you tried to wife up and she hurt your feelings?
      good lord you know, to whom this may concern, we all see through your bullshit guys. the minute you start typing angry crap about broads and shit it becomes obvious that you get very little pussy compared to how you try to act online and you use these websites to continue with your self deluded facade.
      and the reason you get very little pussy is because the bitches can see right throu your bullshit “oh-so-alpha” facade too. morons.

      1. Fucked a shit load of asian girls, from stripper to wife to student to career girl (I am in my 20s and look sharp) and I gotta give MrLemon right the ratio of crazy women (and by crazy I mean trying to kill themselves if you break up crazy or waiting 4 hours in front of your door crazy) seems to be higher in Asian countries. However the ones that are not crazy are the best girlfriends for alpha males. They are caring, can cook, clean, dress up every day and do not embarasse you infront of our friends, clients, coworkers etc. (even if they are completely stupid they know when to shut up, are always friendly and do not bitch around)

  15. haha the comments are heated for some reason over something that doesnt concern them at all.
    look guys, bitches are bitches are bitches. they get the tingles, all that shit, but at the end of the day every one of them is a prostitute. all they have in life is their god given snatch and they use it as a source of support and income. period. asian, american, slavic broads ALL are materialistic. they ALL WANT THE SHIT. thats it. so comparing female types with materialism as a criteria is retarded. on the other hand, comparing them on what they have to OFFER in return is different. asians and slavs take better care of themselves, pride themselves in their appearance and health and know that a man that they want aint gonna put up with a lazy hairy ugly bitch. but they want the shit in return. american broads think that a man should give them the shit without anything promised in return, and that she should be able to be “who she is” and not have to put any effort into being a woman thats worth her dream dudes time. but they all want THE SHIT!!!!!!
    besides, this article is about parental intrusion into a young adults life and how new values are replacing the old “take care of your parents and respect them” with “fuck em just like in ‘murica”. you pussy starved pretenders.

    1. Tokyo TEDDY..
      Sounds like you have had an interesting life. I’d be interested in speaking with you about your working/social life in China/Japan.
      I am over there often maybe we can meet up and sarge.

  16. As the U.S.’s culture becomes exported at faster and faster rates, it is very important that we take a look at what that culture is exactly that we are exporting. I’ve lived abroad for 3 years, and one thing I can tell for certain is that we are exporting our culture at an extremely high rate. This means…*yay*- feminism and fat acceptance along with hollywood movies.

  17. I think getting rich and going western are not the same thing. Hong Kong went western and rich, whereas Korea and Japan are not very western at all in my opinion. I see little westernization going on here in China as well.
    I have lived in Japan for 5 years and the last 6 months I have been in Guangzhou China. First thing I want to say, this Conservative traditional stuff is all BS. Chinese fool around more than westerners.
    I don t find the girls throwing themselves at me here, and I don t think its a good place to roll in and expect to get laid. Most socializing is done in tight groups and clubs are designed for people to mingle with their friends. However, if you spend an extended amount of time learn the lay of the land it is very very easy to meet girls here. Easier than Japan or Canada.
    Another bonus is there are tons of hot eastern European models who are here and a shortage of acceptable men for them (white guys date Chinese and they don t want to date Chinese guys) so they are friendly.
    I am coming off a particularly stellar weekend with many beautiful women. But I still cannot really recommend this place for a traveling love tourist. Living here is great in the lady department (and money too) but quality of life in other faucets lacks (no sun due to horrible pollution).
    Oh one more thing I like. Chinese dudes aren t cockblocks. Japanese and particularly Korean men I find horrible. I really hate them, they treat you like an invader and sadly the girls follow their lead. I sense that Chinese men don t feel they have the right to tell a woman to stay away from you , much like I feel I do not have the right to tell a white woman to stay away from a black guy. I personally think a lot of this has to do with the higher status of women in China than in Japan or Korea. Women think for themselves, and honestly that works out better for the foreigner.

    1. “much like I feel I do not have the right to tell a white woman to stay away from a black guy.”
      Wuss.

    2. Korea is the cultual hotspot in Asia and heavy influenced by the US. For example: Korea has the highest ratio of women getting plastic surgery.
      Korea is like a the cultural export of the US.

  18. In the big cities there is zero shortage of women. Its in the countryside that they are suffering.

  19. Forget about fucking randoms in China, its going to need a big as in HUGE change before they become root-rats, [if ever] just got back they are still intimidated by westerners, the girls just want local dudes with lots of coin

  20. Sometimes, I am surprised by how people can be so intelligent, yet so close-minded at the same time. Yes, this post will be downvoted severely. Yes, I will be derided as a gay, faggot, homo, childish, or woman.
    But if you could all just do a favor for me before you downvote and look at the sort of sick shit you’re implicating and how you’re developing a negative us-and-them mentality, then I hope you can understand where I am coming from in saying that a lot of the points made in this article are illegitimate.
    Ok, go ahead and downvote me.

    1. What exactly was your point? I didn’t see one in the middle of that rant, just a lot of meaningless accusations along with the the accusation of a promotion of an “us vs them” mentality, which i can find nowhere in the article.

  21. The poosie paradise is right now! As soon as sex before marriage will become something normal, watching porn will be totaly legit and you will see women walking around with their thong hanging out its over!
    Its like with drugs if you make them legal eventualy less people will buy them. You always want what you cant or shouldnt have.
    I lived in Asia quiet a while and trust me their having more sex down their than we do in the West. They just know how to do it secretly.

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