70 thoughts on “The Many Levels Of Game”

1. I know a lot of people are invested in game (my ability in it is admittedly low), but isn’t it more about access nowadays? I mean, you can have all the game in the world, but you often (not always) have great issues without access (being in the same social group) as the girls.
   I see in the UK nowadays a lot of guys who openly are buying the girls flowers and supplicating as boyfriends, and whilst the girl may or may not cheat/be exclusive with them, they are still getting action. So it is a cultural trend over here that game is not as necessary as perhaps the US. Access is key where pairings are largely because the partners are within the same social group.
   I don’t know how dating rites will evolve over here but at the moment it is either looks or access. Game is not such a pre-requisite and it actually was more effective in the past. I feel that in future, some kind of ability to provide may make a re-entry as most younger women are going to discover that the economic environment that the younger generation has been thrust into is not an easy one. The circle comes around back once again, so to speak, though marriages still will be off the cards.

2. I know a lot of people are invested in game (my ability in it is admittedly low), but isn’t it more about access nowadays? I mean, you can have all the game in the world, but you often (not always) have great issues without access (being in the same social group) as the girls.
   I see in the UK nowadays a lot of guys who openly are buying the girls flowers and supplicating as boyfriends, and whilst the girl may or may not cheat/be exclusive with them, they are still getting action. So it is a cultural trend over here that game is not as necessary as perhaps the US. Access is key where pairings are largely because the partners are within the same social group.
   I don’t know how dating rites will evolve over here but at the moment it is either looks or access. Game is not such a pre-requisite and it actually was more effective in the past. I feel that in future, some kind of ability to provide may make a re-entry as most younger women are going to discover that the economic environment that the younger generation has been thrust into is not an easy one. The circle comes around back once again, so to speak, though marriages still will be off the cards.

   1. I think of game as maximizing yourself in any direction that can help you. So, why not, expanding your social circles can definitely be part of your game strategy. Don’t think of it as just one or two things in isolation, but as a holistic thing 🙂

   2. I think of game as maximizing yourself in any direction that can help you. So, why not, expanding your social circles can definitely be part of your game strategy. Don’t think of it as just one or two things in isolation, but as a holistic thing 🙂

   3. You are correct. At least based on what I see in London. The social circle and access it provides is way more common in London than anywhere I’ve seen in Canada or the US.
      Game still helps though. Maybe it’s helped by looks as I notice girls are giving out more vibes than I saw my first few years in the UK. Still not n the same level as the US though.
      That said, you can still find characters in every western country that can substitute in the above article.
      Fun read by the way.

   4. You are correct. At least based on what I see in London. The social circle and access it provides is way more common in London than anywhere I’ve seen in Canada or the US.
      Game still helps though. Maybe it’s helped by looks as I notice girls are giving out more vibes than I saw my first few years in the UK. Still not n the same level as the US though.
      That said, you can still find characters in every western country that can substitute in the above article.
      Fun read by the way.

   5. This is why so much guys who have social circle have the same problem: they don’t get laid? Unless you have the highest status in social circle you still have trouble with chicks. Social circle game is also a dead end for 95% of all guys unless you want to get married.
      We all play on the battlefield that is chosen by woman. That battlefield is called “game”. We still react on their behavior and on their rules. They have one purpose: to enslave guys, shit out a few kids, and fuck the few “attractive” guys.

      1. Or more accurately, fuck the guys they find attractive, i.e. the ugly, skinny, sunken eyed freak because he is the one with the cocaine.

   6. I agree. Look around in any major city, and examine the couples you see walking the streets. Focus on the girlfriends who are 7s and especially 8s or better.
      Could the man she’s with pick her up in a bar while she’s out with her gaggle of friends? Could he get her to show up for a date after getting her number at the supermarket? Would an 8 or 9 be willing to spend a couple hours on a date with a guy she hardly knows, and might be creepy or awkward? She doesn’t even go on dates anyway! She could have a great time getting drinks with her girlfriends, who are not unknown commodities like you. She’s also under no social pressure to get a ‘serious’ boyfriend, so that’s out the window.
      You’ll see the same thing in college – the surest way of getting lots of ass in college is by being involved in as many scenes as possible, thus enlarging your social circle.
      Yes, a bad social circle can be worse than none at all, because it keeps you from working the bars or the coffee shops. But a good one can give you access to talent that you’d be hard to come by otherwise. Saying social circle game sucks is like saying cars suck, based on your experience of owning a Pinto. Hanging out with the same three people week after week is not going to work – you have to have a pool where fresh water is constantly being churned in.
      Not that it’s easy to get a worthy social circle – Law Dogger’s own Boxgap Steak article is a testament to that. I personally do not have a social circle that gets me laid at the moment – I rely on approaching in various channels. But there’s no denying having one can be rewarding.

   7. I wouldn’t apply the same game in Europe that I do in the US. Women are totally different over there.

   8. Social Circle is becoming more powerful as society breaks down and strangers become less trustful of each other. Social circle game is becoming dominant because of multicultural policies, most likely.

3. Article was pure Joy to read.

4. Great Article!

5. Great Article!

6. Very entertaining article, and an interesting perspective to think about!

7. This story perfectly illustrates the point so many of us lose sight of. Unless your George Clooney or an absolute omega turd you fall somewhere on a continuum of coolness. The key is- and what the manosphere is really all about is a deliberate and methodical attempt to elevate yourself. Physically, mentally, and spiritually improving – constantly striving to be the very best man that YOU are capable fo being.

   1. well put

   2. Careful, that line of reason and thinking will get you labeled an “MGTOW Omega-man” around these parts.
      I agree 100% though.

8. This story perfectly illustrates the point so many of us lose sight of. Unless your George Clooney or an absolute omega turd you fall somewhere on a continuum of coolness. The key is- and what the manosphere is really all about is a deliberate and methodical attempt to elevate yourself. Physically, mentally, and spiritually improving – constantly striving to be the very best man that YOU are capable fo being.

9. Hello. My name is George Clooney. Yes George Clooney the actor. I was just Googling myself and was shocked how many articles and comments in the “manosphere” mention my name. Apparently people use me as an example of an Alpha, or to prove that women will make themselves available for the right man. I had no idea. Very fascinating, and I’m flattered. I see Brad Pitt is a distant 2nd but I am the overwhelming favorite. Hahah – can’t wait to let him know, the chump. Well, back to banging broads. Peace out.

   1. Actually it is the feminist press that obsesses over George Clooney. Refer to “The End of Men” by Hannah Rosin.

      1. Clooney here again. (Using Sam’s account, this internet thing is still weird to me.) I didn’t mean to imply the manosphere is obsessed. Merely that I seem to be the go-to guy to illustrate an Alpha point. If this were the 1960s it would be Steve McQueen or JFK. Again, I am flattered. Also, I would never bother using as a reference anything titled “The End of Men.” That sounds like a colossal waste of time better spent banging and earning. Although I think I may have fucked a Hannah Rosin.

         1. You are correct, feminist writings are a waste of life.
            How do you develop that classy persona? Do you have a personal stylist? You seem to do it without effort.

   2. Actually it is the feminist press that obsesses over George Clooney. Refer to “The End of Men” by Hannah Rosin.

   3. Clooney is probably a homosexual. You are aware that some of these hot broads he’s “seen” with have copped to never getting intimate?

      1. so girls being classy and not kissing and telling [re:george] is called him being gay. he spends time with supermodels and the most beautiful woman on earth just to ‘get to know them and bitch about men’?
         c’mon man

      2. If you’re focusing on that part, you miss the point.

10. Hello. My name is George Clooney. Yes George Clooney the actor. I was just Googling myself and was shocked how many articles and comments in the “manosphere” mention my name. Apparently people use me as an example of an Alpha, or to prove that women will make themselves available for the right man. I had no idea. Very fascinating, and I’m flattered. I see Brad Pitt is a distant 2nd but I am the overwhelming favorite. Hahah – can’t wait to let him know, the chump. Well, back to banging broads. Peace out.

11. This article is nonsense.
    1) Your ability of “game” has nothing to do with hitting on chicks. Hitting on chicks != ability to fuck them. Most guys who hit on chicks don’t get laid. Most guys that fuck the hottest woman on the planet don’t approach them.
    2) Guys are chosen by woman.
    Stop believing the dream. The only thing that is real are the laws of supply and demand.

    1. That’s like saying that since consumers can choose from whom to buy, then you might as well give up all efforts to market and position your product.
       Game is about marketing yourself to be more interesting (in other words, so that your chance of ‘being chosen’ increase).

       1. Don’t bother Phantom. Marcus is MGTOW. He hasn’t gotten laid since Bush was in office.

          1. w or hw?

       2. Almost completely agree in fact. Except that girls don’t go for the “most interesting” guys. I’m curious in fact: how many love-letters does Bill Gates receive?
          I’m only giving a voice here so kids who read this article won’t automatically assume that there is something wrong with them when they hit on woman and don’t get pussy.

          1. There IS something wrong with them.

          2. to some small degree your right. If you hit on chicks and try to fuck them a lot of the time you will get rejected. Hell maybe 90 percent of the time. But you know what? If you go for 10 approaches a day, your fucking new bitches every day. So realistically banging one new decent looking girl a week is a very nice score for a young man. Cast a wider net.

    2. Bizzaned, lol

12. Fred is a beta schlub. Frustrated, he enrolls in a Ballroom Dance class, where he finds cheerful women of all ages willing to dance with him. The mere exposure to feminine phero-chemicals boosts his overall health and general outlook. He starts dressing better, ditching his jeans for a pair of gabardines and complimentary shirts. Having touched and talked with a lot of women his awkwardness with the opposite sex begins to fade. The gals at the office no longer intimidate or even interest him, and they have noticed. So too has management, and he is in line for that coveted promotion. He ditches his SUV and starts driving a Panthera XS9. His former friends deride him for being a fag dancer while complaining that they can’t meet any decent chicks. For Fred now, meeting women is like falling off a log. Retail clerks are miffed that he doesn’t “notice” them. Airport staff smile and help him out. When he lands overseas for a much-needed break, he muses that dancing was just icing on the cake.

    1. Fred’s beard hairs are now prized relics. Stay thirsty, my friend….

    2. Obviously, he’s never been to Philadelphia airport.

13. The saddest is Jason, an engineer who just got a promotion could do wonders with some basic game, and yet he needs the permission of his chubby girlfriend he lives with…

    1. I think the saddest was clearly Eric

    2. I actually live with Jason. No shit.

14. “They have a few drinks, Rick suggests they listen to some music at his place and she agrees.”
    At “his place” this woman who so readily goes to strange man’s apartment infects him with genital herpes. About 4 days after his conquest he awakens to a throbbing penis with an odd rubbery sore near the glans. It turns into a bloody pustule, then fades away. He is momentarily relived, must have been the friction from the hot sex with what’s her name. But the pustules come back, erupting in florid rashes of bloody sores on his dick that last for weeks on end, accompanied by excruciating nerve inflammation throughout his thighs and buttocks. He goes to a doctor. Nothing can be done, herpes is forever. After about 5 -10 years of this misery the outbreaks fade slilghtly, but he know to avoid peanuts, chocolate, and prolonged sexual activity (if he can find it now) for fear of stimulating another outbreak. He trolls Meet People WIth Herpes and Meet People With HPV in hopes of snagging some strange. Depressed, he starts drinking and generally engaging in risky pursuits tha often end badly. All for some bar skank who picked it up herself from Davon when she was in her youthful diversity justice phase.
    Wear a condom guys.

15. “They have a few drinks, Rick suggests they listen to some music at his place and she agrees.”
    At “his place” this woman who so readily goes to strange man’s apartment infects him with genital herpes. About 4 days after his conquest he awakens to a throbbing penis with an odd rubbery sore near the glans. It turns into a bloody pustule, then fades away. He is momentarily relived, must have been the friction from the hot sex with what’s her name. But the pustules come back, erupting in florid rashes of bloody sores on his dick that last for weeks on end, accompanied by excruciating nerve inflammation throughout his thighs and buttocks. He goes to a doctor. Nothing can be done, herpes is forever. After about 5 -10 years of this misery the outbreaks fade slilghtly, but he know to avoid peanuts, chocolate, and prolonged sexual activity (if he can find it now) for fear of stimulating another outbreak. He trolls Meet People WIth Herpes and Meet People With HPV in hopes of snagging some strange. Depressed, he starts drinking and generally engaging in risky pursuits tha often end badly. All for some bar skank who picked it up herself from Davon when she was in her youthful diversity justice phase.
    Wear a condom guys.

    1. QFT.
       There is after all a potential downside to getting what you want.

    2. I agree with the advice to wear a condom, but it’s worth noting that condoms aren’t particularly effective at preventing herpes transmission. An alternative is to screen for girls who don’t have it. Insisting on a recent negative test means a mucher lower frequency of ONS/SNL (if any), but if deployed skillfully it shows preselection and can be a major DHV.

       1. Both excellent points. Condoms are a measure of protection but not 100%. Some years ago there was a company offering form-fitted condoms in standard sizes like brassieres but they folded. I am no Johnny Wadd by any stretch but condoms just kill my old dick.
          Advise you grasshoppers to get an array of condoms and practice before you suddenly find yourself with an actual female.
          As for asking her to get tested I agree completely. Herpes is but one potential game-changer. If she has HPV on her labia you will get it all over your balls. You can get Syphillis in the eye. There are strains of penicillin-resistant clap. Hepatitus C will eventually kill you.
          Recently my wife was diagnosed with Hep-C, which freaked us out. But it turned out to be a false positive from a Hep-B infection decades ago. She had recent dental work in Vietnam so Hep-C was plausible.
          And last night my son Hermann told me he needed to see a doctor about a rash on his dick! If you have followed my comments he was in a frat that got kicked off campus for their antics.It has proven to benign but I feel totally responsible having not educated him on all this.

16. Very interesting article! Keep up the good stuff Law Dogger!

17. A very entertaining read.
    One hole in the narrative-that 19 year old who picked up the guy at the airport with a dress on and holding a carrot cake……….yeah……..well………..she doesn’t exist.
    Now, if it was a picture of a carrot cake she stole off of pinterest using her mobile app, then the story has teeth.

    1. Yeah the story almost lost me at the point. No attractive 19 yo who a guy is casually dating is going to the airport to greet him with a freshly baked cake. The story got good toward the end with Gary and Kyle.

       1. You’d be surprised what my college hunnies do for me on the regular… Cookies, cakes, pies…You name it. Learn how to pick them son.

       2. Ah, someone has not been to the FSU.

       3. I’ve been to the FSU and have never seen a chick bake a cake for a guy. And Roosh you will probably see less and less of this as time progresses if you remain in that part of the planet. But for both FSU and in the States one could see this regularly back, say 40 years ago.
          All fiction aside, a well written article. This piece reminds me of that Tarrantino movie where all sequences are either connected to each other, or segway into another situation.

          1. I disagree, but I live in the South where maybe our women are still …. well women. Also, with the economy in bad shape there has been a big resurgence in the popularity of traditionalism, homestead, and women being into baking/arts/crafts. Southern girls/women are pretty handy!

18. clever article. it’s all relative!

19. Why focus on the Clooney bit? Learn from Kyle: a guy who’s fed up with his place in life and has mustered up the courage to get out there and make it happen. Lesson learned: if you win, you win. If you lose, you still win…

20. Fuck man! you nail’d it.
    Damn true

21. Best article ever written on any game website. This article is the essence of everything you need to know about game, and it’s a story. Fucking great writing.

22. “LD wakes up the next morning and gets on the plane for his trip.  On the flight, he starts chatting with Rick who is flying to the same town.  As they exit the plane, LD walks outside to be surprised by a girl he’s dated before, who is 19, in heels and a dress, and baked him a cake for his arrival.  LD embraces her, they kiss and walk out of the airport.  Rick sees this and thinks to himself, I wish I could pull girls like that.”
    I think the last time a 19 year old female knew how to cook actually did so for a guy was circa 40 years ago.
    But all fiction aside that you wrote here, your point is well taken and something all men have to consider. I enjoyed it. This reminds me a bit of that Tarantino movie where all the sequence of events either are connected to each other or segway into another situation.

    1. “I think the last time a 19 year old female knew how to cook actually did so for a guy was circa 40 years ago.”
       They flew into Kiev.

23. It is very much like a René Girard’s analysis, we desire what the people we identified with, have. I wonder what Clooney desires.

24. Excellent post, sir, excellent.

25. how is the clooney bit any game at all?
    it is looks and status combined to not make game matter
    game starts with guys who are of average status that want to talk to girls and use mechanisms to turn them on

26. Damn.. This is easily one of my favorite posts on ROK.

27. Good shit dude. Clear concept, well-executed structure, nice punchline.

28. This article deserves a “sticky”. Pure truth, awesome read. This is how the world works. Find yourself on the ladder, and start climbing!

    1. I wonder if a voting system for an article to be “featured” or “stickied” (whatever it ends up meaning) would be useful. Perhaps they could be found on the front page as that would give newcomers a good look of the site.

29. awesome post!

30. Wooow…nice article. Really put things in perspective. It just gets more depressing the more you read.

31. Yep, so the PUAs are just one step above the bottom

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