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Honor Killings May Proceed While We Get Shut Down For Organizing A Happy Hour

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If Roosh became Supreme Imam Valizadeh and I reinvented myself as David el-Garrett, Senior News Writer for Return of the Caliphate, SJWs would not threaten our readers and supporters with rape, serious injury, and death, let alone promise violent protests at our events. How do I know this? Because SJWs in Sydney and Melbourne in particular, along with those in the US, Canada, New Zealand and Scotland, have utterly failed to raise anything more than a whisper against truly violence-advocating Islamist group Hizb ut-Tahrir.

Unlike Roosh, who has reiterated for an eternity, including this week, that the “legal rape” article was a satire, Hizb ut-Tahrir and comparable groups are allowed to preach a dead serious political programme of religious intolerance and the incitement of system-wide violence without any prospect of fury from rabid Australian and other SJWs. I challenge Sydney hate mob organizer Elizabeth Tory and people of her ilk to show evidence of massive protests and serious threat factories they stirred up against Hizb ut-Tahrir, which has regular meetings in Australian metropolitan areas.

Right now, for example, we are getting rape and death threat “fan mail” like this, all because we wanted to have beers with fellow men:

Hizb ut-Tahrir has defended the “right” of honor killings against women, such as when a girl falls in love with a man her parents do not want her to marry. It has additionally called for a savage and never-ending jihad against the Jews. This group not only exists in Sydney, Melbourne and other cities across the Western world, it has been invited to multiple Australian universities.

Curiously, a number of columnists from left-of-center papers, such as Melbourne’s The Age and The Sydney Morning Herald, have previously defended the group’s right to appear at events. One very notable defense spoke of its role in the “marketplace of ideas.” Apparently this same courtesy does not extend to Return of Kings, even when we use satire.

Why didn’t SJWs threaten those attending this “meeting” and ones like it?

Where’s SJW Wally/Waldo?

In 2012, a massive Islamist protest occurred in the streets of Central Sydney, with attendees promising to behead those who “insulted” the Muslim prophet Mohammed. This one has been followed by countless more since, in almost every Western city. Every time, where were the SJWs, keen to defend tolerance, peace, and love in the world? They simply weren’t there and certainly didn’t even appear after. This is despite these Islamist groups frequently very explicitly condoning honor killings and other practices SJWs supposedly despise.

So why are SJWs going crazy only over us? Because they know we have no interest in any violence. They and their media enablers have not cited a single shred of evidence from a single threat made by any ROK reader. SJWs have not rallied against the “behead Islam’s enemies” marches because they a) feared for their safety, and b) they dare not interfere with religious and ethnic minorities holding onto protected views, no matter what they say. Big bad Western democracies and the rights of peaceful groups like ours to assemble are what they really hate.

Plenty of online SJWs have said how they are “scared” of us but are still doing everything in their power to make violent threats publicly and advertise their impending attendance at rallies. Why could we not see the same thing at these Islamist protests?

Multiple Australian universities have welcomed Hizb ut-Tahrir, even as university students threaten rape, death and injury upon ROK followers wanting to meet for beer

In 2015, the University of Western Sydney, renamed over the last few months as Western Sydney University, allowed its Muslim Students’ Association to host Hizb ut-Tahrir. So keen was the university to appease its guests that it acquiesced to the demand that women be segregated and forced to sit behind the men in the auditorium. Moreover, all this came after the group and its global affiliates defended honor killings on women and exhorted followers to take up the jihad against the Jews. It became clear afterwards that the university had broken its own rules in allowing the event to occur.

The Australian National University in Canberra was also the site of an event featuring Hizb ut-Tahrir. Academics from that institution eventually withdrew from a planned “dialogue,” but one must wonder if such a retraction of participation had more to do with non-SJW public outcry than the individuals’ genuine disapproval in taking part. All in all, what we are left with is an impression of SJW hordes and their obsequious white knights wilfully calling for violence and repression when and where it suits them. They entirely manufacture a reason when it comes to Return of Kings but turn a constantly blind eye to Hizb ut-Tahrir.

There are dozens and dozens of meet-ups that were being organized by ROK before their cancelation, yet SJWs seem to think they have proof that every single person wanted to attend them in order to rape, which is both patently false and the biggest mass instance of defamation I have ever heard of. Meanwhile, expect the red carpet treatment if you’re from Hizb ut-Tahrir or a similar group that actually supports violence.

Stay tuned for more sad and deranged SJW lunacy

ROK has begun documenting some of the thousands of threats involving rape, physical harm and even death being directed at our supporters. We will start releasing more of them in article form soon.

In the interim, help us call out the SJWs’ histrionic and criminal double standards, which ignore or repeatedly condone real calls for violence, by contributing to the catalogue of violence we are collating on the forum or by emailing evidence in.

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633 thoughts on “Honor Killings May Proceed While We Get Shut Down For Organizing A Happy Hour”

  1. Those are some random girls. Small fish. You better bring the false statements made by some professional politicians and better yet – SUE THEM!
    Expose their bias and ruin their careers.
    Like the British Labour MP Chi Onwurah and Tory minister Karen Bradley who made obscene jokes about Roosh inside the British Parliament.
    https://media.giphy.com/media/26tnj5VyA6chzw4AE/giphy.gif
    In an interview Chi Onwurah was asked why she changed her career from Chartered Engineer to a politician to which she replied: “I wanted to make the world work better for everyone.”
    For everyone? Is that your idea of making the world better for everyone, Chi, by cracking of toilet jokes inside the centuries old institution – the British Parliament?

    2. The Labour’s Shadow Home Office Minister Ms Onwurah called for Roosh V to be banned from entering the UK, and for meetings of his group, Return of Kings, to be banned as hate crimes. She has written to Home Secretary Theresa May to ask if an order was in place to prevent the campaigner entering the country.
      If I was Roosh I would demand from her to give a detailed explanation on what she based her call for Roosh to be banned.
      http://i.huffpost.com/gen/3962702/original.jpg

      1. You want a detailed explanation from a person who is trying to rip apart the very basis of fair society, and you with it?
        That is so beta, I don’t know where to begin.

        1. These politicians are publicly accountable, they always have to answer to an inquiry. If nothing else there’s more publicity to be gained by going after them.
          If Roosh (or a member here who lives in the constituency they represent) demands an explanation it could be published here to exposed their lack of solid arguments and double standards.

      3. I assume the argument to ban Roosh was based mostly on the satirical rape article. I think the Parliament should be reminded of the satire of one of their own, namely Jonathan Swift in A Modest Proposal. Was he deported or banned? Works that hit at the heart of the absurdity of the cultural climate and it’s problems have value, no matter how controversial.

      4. Yet they’ll continue to let real terrorists (Muslims) into their country on the regular. Once the country has been taken over then there will be no need to worry about women in political office any longer. Islam doesn’t put up with women and they’ll be sending women packing (back to the kitchen, deporting them or killing them).
        Then, they’ll get a real taste of a terrorist group.

    3. Good idea! Hit these SJWs where it hurts the most… their WALLETS! Sue the hell out of the media outlets that printed LIES, the websites that actively propagated them, and the spineless threat makers on social media.
      It’s time to make them pay.

      1. I also think so, that’s what the legal system’s for.. On the other hand, you possibly have to prove you’ve suffered a loss, and has someone suffered a loss? There’s a chance they’ve suffered a gain.. Wonder what the law says..

      2. Suing SJW? Straw man: Argument leading no where.
        The Supreme Court of the United States is staffed by Monsanto Lawyers. Using the same courts that protect the Governments which are the ones throwing the fake/avatar SJW swarm at this site is playing right into there hands.
        No, real world action is needed. A better way and ideology must prevail in the real world. We must posit and PROOF the solution for every female and male to see.

    4. Dude, have you not heard of Aaron Schwartz or Edward Snowden? Online accounts or “avatars” that are disingenuous in social movements (commentators especially) are 90% NOT REAL. It is a cyber defamation campaign. In some cases it is found that 80% of celebrities Facebook friends aren’t real people. What makes you think a reasonable American women would death threat online with the surveillance of today?
      Stop attributing this crap to real women who don’t deserve it. Think about it, you know what real women want huh? Do they want you to engage the crazy half? No, they don’t.

        3. That comment doesn’t even make sense in any way shape or form! Why would I post about how to out myself. That is my real name, Elias Griffin, and my reputation is gold. I have no Political affiliations and only advocate against Government wars and want to talk with other alpha males. Something a shill can never aspire to.
          Remember the shill used my words twisted back at me which is a hallmark tactic which you’ll see that I’ve already warned about if you see my other comments.
          So …we have a Shill trying to paint me a shill, hah! See? They are everywhere and the tactics are quite down pat at this point. Don’t worry I’m used to it and take it as a compliment.

        6. If you’re such an alpha, why do find it necessary to point it out to everyone? Keep squawking, btw, your Twitter feed is hilarious! Pure granola state goodness!

      3. This group was no where near that big , it just now stepped into common knowledge and that’s only because of people freaking out over meetings that , at tops , would have 10 people at them .

        1. That is usually the case. Disruption is only required when the targeted social movements starts to organize in the real world where real affect can be had.

        2. I find it hard to believe that the US government is really concerned with us . I imagine they keep tabs on this site , if they wanted to disrupt it they could just shut it down . They have way bigger fish to fry

        3. There is no bigger fish than revolution-prone citizens.
          At times the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots. That time is coming.

      4. This is so true I highly doubt many of the trolls here are using their real accounts. What we can be sure however that many behind said accounts are obese ugly buffallos, homos, and other social miscreants that’s for sure..

      5. I’d say the women in the article are real – I’m sure its easily enough verified. Its much more likely that any sockpuppet accounts will try to make us look bad than ‘them’ – those stupid girls are exactly that : stupid girls. They’ve got nice soft faces despite their psychopathic language so they’ll get away with it probably

    5. Rotherham MP Sarah Champion also asked if banning orders were in place to prevent the events taking place.
      http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/mp-chi-onwurah-implies-roosh-10844444
      http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/media/images/77582000/jpg/_77582735_champion624.jpg
      Ms Champion says: “Rape of women has increased by 41% in the last year.”
      The statistics I’ve come across say 31% but give or take 10% is perhaps nothing in this woman’s mind.
      Champion fails to mention why the rates might be going up but we all know that they move up in parallel with the raise of uncontrolled immigration of mostly young primitive men.

      2. These illegals enter a country and automatically their crime rates shoot up. Yes, I think I have the answer to their problem but they don’t want to use logic to figure it out. It’s better to go with the “feels” and ignore actual data.

      3. remember her constituency is the one where English girls were molested by Pakistani’s and everyone looked the other way…FOR YEARS

    6. MPs laughed as Labour’s Chi Onwurah suggested Valizade was “so insecure in his own masculinity” that he felt the need to “augment the size of his … following”.
      Bradley added: “I join her in her comments about perhaps the reasons why this individual is doing what he is doing, ensuring he is getting publicity, in a way perhaps he needs for other reasons. I’ll say no more.”

    7. Conservative MP Simon Hoare urged the UK government to even outlaw this site and the whole movement.
      “Everybody would welcome a proactive engagement form the home secretary and her department to not only exclude this man who frankly is an embarrassment to all men and to proscribe his organisation as well,” he said.
      http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2016/02/04/roosh-v-mocked-for-size-of-following-as-mps-urge-theresa-may-to-ban-him-from-britain_n_9156866.html
      http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/resources/images/2352954.jpg?htype=206&display=1&type=mc3

      2. Like the way his ilk covered up all the sex scandals. Mr Perfect during the public gaze…..Monday- Friday … Why don’t we ban him from attending his mason lodge meetings every Saturday night where he and his mates crack themselves up making every misogynistic joke in the book. Yet another ass sucking hypocrite….BAN, BAN, BAN, the hallmark of a vacant political mind….even Orwell wrote in the Lion and the Unicorn “that the British were so tolerant that even during the 1930s its Government always allowed both communists and fascists to produce whatever propaganda they wanted”….people like this dick ass conservative half-wit want to undermine once more our better and finer instincts, like tolerance and reason.

  2. They hate what doesn’t threaten them. Because RTK involves a bunch of men of the types that have probably dumped these woman, and instilled angry envy in the white knight beta, we must be silenced.
    RTK serves to free the confused male and make him independent and aware. The Muslim extremists encourage a system of totalitarianism which can be used by elites to control. The puppet master needent actually believe Islamic creed, he only needs to wear the proper mask.
    RTK is the liberation. They fear our freedom.

    1. Roosh’ life work involves demeaning , degrading and manipulating women, and it’s in print for the world to see. You are his followers. Y’all can’t compare yourselves to Emmit Till, he was innocent.

      2. Occasionally reading a blog doesn’t make me anyone’s disciple dickhead. Furthermore, It’s “You” not “Y’all” you fucking hillbilly. You’re in no position to criticize anyone’s “limited vocabulary.”

        1. Look there are many “queer” websites for you this a men’s empowerment website so go away..

      3. 50 shades of grey is the second most sold book of all time after the bible. What Roosh is practicing is masculinity. He doesnt advocate rape, contrarily to 50 shades’ author who became billionnaire thanks to rape starved women.

        1. Rape starved women?! Is that also satire.? It’s this kinda shit that formed the public’s opinion of ROK. What the fuck does ‘practicing masculinity’ mean? IS that what Roosh was doing when he was photographed coming out of his mother’s basement? This stuff is delicious.

        3. Why don’t you answer the central tenet of this article, namely why is a left wing feminism student group inviting a radical Islamic group into its universities that is antisemitic, homophobic and misogynistic, and actively advocate that women should be treated like animals. How can you support the actions of a group that support such vile and disturbing beliefs?

        4. The article stated he was filing a police report since Anonymous released his families address. You know Anonymous right? The group willing to release the information of a man open about everything he is, to men and women like yourself oh so eager to rape and murder in the name of ideals. But please, continue to share how rape and murder threats by you reduce the likelihood of murders and rapes in the future. Just one more body and the world will be saved right?

        5. I think this article is a distraction from what is happening to Roosh.;there is no equivalency between Roosh and some left wiing feminist.group. I’m not left wing or feminist, but I hate a lot of the stuff here. You don’t nee to be a feminist to take offence to., for example, an article here recently that stated women should not be allowed to make important decisions with out a male relative’s approval. That kind of shit. A lot of people hated this site before the rape article, with good reason.
          No one should get death and rape threats,but you know who else gets those a lot? Women on the internet who voice an opinion.
          You guys are mostly smart and entertaining when you’re not discussing women. Women of any sort don’t like to be talked about like that.

        6. “an article here recently that stated women should not be allowed to
          make important decisions with out a male relative’s approval”
          Many people might indeed find that article objectionable. But out of interest, do you consider an article that is merely objectionable to be grounds for banning someone, or preventing free association – leaving aside the free speech issue itself? Does it matter whether some stuff on the internet is objectionable, or some men meeting together to discuss stuff might to some or other degree share such an opinions?

        7. Well, I don’t think it’s a distraction if it’s true. The feminist group in question really has no or very little credibility if it extends the Olive branch to medieval barbarians whom hold values that are deeply hostile, repugnant and offensive to the values of western democracy. You cannot break bread and have some type of intra multicultural love and hug fest with people determined to saw off your head if you deviate from their retarded belief system.
          Yeah, I can understand why normal educated women would take umbrage at some of the articles here on occasions. They’re written with a degree of tongue in cheek hyperbole that’s made to provoke a reaction from the men here- it’s a men’s site and it’s not meant to be constrained by the normal egalitarian protocols you get elsewhere, and that’s its whole purpose, I suppose. However, you must realize that the whole issue of men’s role and place in modern societies has been largely ignored by the mainstream, so, it’s no wonder that guys come to a site like this where they can freely articulate what’s on their minds. I think this is a healthy and necessary conduit for guys to have, sure, some of the comments are less than PC, but, you’re missing the point if you get hung up on this aspect alone.

        8. No, I think your group should be left in peace. It’s hard for me to feel bad for roosh though.

        9. I promise you i’m not missing the point of the site, and i’m well aware of difficulties men have in today’s society.It seems many in the manosphere blame all,of men’s problems on women, and that’s unfair and unproductive.It’s not just the pc thing ( it’s not just anti p c, for example, to say women are stupid). One thing that bugs me is that very young men come here, and what to you may be tongue in cheek you register very differently in a young man’s mind.

        12. you don’t need to feel bad for Roosh, except maybe to the same extent you’d feel bad for anyone who has been viciously slandered by being said to be one of the worst things a man can be called

        13. I generalized your presence on this site with those of other recent posters. If you were simply looking for answers you have been given them. What you choose to do with the answers is on you. We aren’t going anywhere and will continue to try to learn what is going on in our world to assist ourselves and those we care about. Too much good can come from learning from other men to turn back now.

        14. “It seems many in the manosphere blame all,of men’s problems on women” Well, I’m not sure they’re blaming women at all as a sex, perhaps some do, and, that’s as silly as the sloganeering that SJW do, but, they’re aspects of feminism that have seriously undermined the role and usefulness of a man’s place in modern society. I think this can develop into misogyny with certain men who’ve become so disillusioned with their purpose or lack of it that the two become one in their mind, but, they’re real reasons that haven’t been addressed by society that we need to examine.
          The question of all young people and what they do and watch on the internet, like hardcore pornography and violence will I believe produce further generations that will be completely desensitized to normal human sexual relationships. This site for example has written articles about this very issue, and advising men, of all ages against porn addiction, so I’d find that young men coming here will often get some possibly very good insights too.

        17. Context, darling. The book was bought by whom? A book that features a rape scene? That was made the second most sold book of all time? Who bought it? Who worshiped and enshrined it? You, women. STFU.

      4. @Lerellen-I would posit Roosh holds up a mirror to how women today…actually ARE…pierced, tattooed, blue hair, dressed very poorly (pajamas in public, etc)….and its not a pretty picture. We are not SYCOHPANTIC to women as they WISH they appeared, that is true.

  3. Dear Roosh haters, just remember that the only major difference between you and the men that lynched Emmett Till, is the fact that you weren’t successful.

  4. The real agitators behind the recent disgusting display of bigotry and intolerance in getting the RoK gathering cancelled are certified psychopaths. That is not a term of insult, but a factual and descriptive term. The vast majority of the followers are simple chumps and lowly betas who are mere drones.
    Psychopaths are extremely shrewd and calculating: the biggest threat to their hold on power, their real existential enemies are *not* the savage and barbarous hordes that are rampaging and mass raping across Europe. Actually, the two groups have much in common. No. The genuine threat are independent, ruggedly individualistic, informed educated people (mostly men) who are driven by reason and rationality, and value Liberty and their independence … this is the type that is the *greatest* threat to the psychopaths’ power grip and vision of how a society ought to be organized. The sick and sinister forces will unleash the fury of hellfire on anyone they deem to challenge the very foundations of their psychopathic and tyrannical enterprise.

  6. Man, all this energy and hatred wasted over a few guys getting together for a few beers. lol. Meanwhile let’s say nothing about the Muslim Rape & Behead Brigade. Talk about fucked up.

    1. They believe that it would be racist of them to try to talk about Muslims doing what Muslims do. You know that Islam is not a race, but that’s beside the point- they think it is a race. In their minds, if you talk about Islamic violence, you’re Hitler. If you talk about genetics without PC filtration, Hitler. If you don’t admit to white privilege, Hitler. If you don’t hold to the Romanticist ideal of the Noble Savage, Hitler.

  7. The best part is they gave us 10x the attention that the losers who stick up for them received …and we didn’t even want it . They were lining up to figure out where we would be and what we were talking about .

  8. Sensationalist, retributive, aggrandizing title for this article. What’s up with that?
    Seeing as the Feminist movement is co-opted (like ours is, that is what THEY do) and this co-opted Feminist movements primary goal is to change regular women into worse ones, thus depriving both sexes of a mutually beneficial relationship….the well being of Men is CURRENTLY in a disastrous state.
    It can hardly get worse. Imo we are 90% to the bottom. Male children in America RIGHT NOW are currently treated like third world slaves in my educated opinion. They are not aware enough to know, so take what they are given. Only because they don’t know better, so you can’t 100% fault them.
    A job lost or doxxing is nothing! Get another job! One out of the system! Protect yourself online!
    If you are too scared to meet in public; You probably won’t stand up to what’s coming anyway. We are talking about the fabric of society in pre-WW3 America. Hundreds of thousands of good men (not the chauvinist pig type which todays Feminists are replacing!) jobs’ and family lives have ALREADY destroyed FOR DECADES over sexual harassment in the workplace, etc.
    Meeting at a Cafe will not make anything worse. Quite the contrary. Come to LA Live at 8PM.

    1. Except they won’t defend conservatives, traditionalists Christians, who say that homosexuality is a sin.
      That’s the odd thing about the left- they are perfectly willing to support the most fanatical intolerant religion on earth that promotes everything they are purportedly against.
      Why? That’s how much they hate US. A liberal newspaper in Sweden literally said they would rather see Isis victorious than anti-immigration parties succeed.

      1. A liberal newspaper in Sweden literally said they would rather see Isis victorious than anti-immigration parties succeed.
        It would appear that Whites no longer believe in the value of their continued existence.

        2. Liberal papers owned by Billionaires do not represent White people.
          Billionaires want white people to believe white people don’t care. Get it? We do, only they write in the papers that we don’t care, leading to more self hate and racial tension. See?

        4. Well, the Whites that care need to collectivize and speak up or prepare to suffer the consequences. Whites, like every other people on planet Earth, need to become racially aware before it’s too late. The average white perceive themselves as above tribalism. A lofty ideal but they’re being played.

        6. We’ll rob the bank at five, see?
          Then we’ll split before the cops show up, see?
          You’ll do what I say, see?
          Or the fat lady gets it! 😛

  10. They hate us because they know we are the only ones who see them as they really are. Muslims understand nothing and are just living in a dream world, thus no real threat.

  11. The SJWs will not face any kind of punishment for their actions because they enjoy the support of the politically correct mainstream. The simple fact of the matter is that if you have a Right Wing ideology, mainstream media makes sure you can’t exercise your right to freedom of speech.

    1. until you’re arrested for saying this shit, settle down with the “freedom of speech” claims.

        2. You do realize the logical fallacy is what he addressed not what you said, right? You may not have, but members of your group (and the only reason I don’t say you is because you conveniently have your posts on private yet I would be the one to be considered as having something to hide right?) are posting vile thoughts and recourses for people they don’t know for the opinion espoused by one man, who they and in turn you, know nothing about. Freedom of speech misappropriated is what allows you to tell me, “fuck you you cis cum gender white slum lord. don’t come out of your mother’s basement or I will fuck your mouth until you…..”, without any legal recourse, yet if I were to do the same the media would have a field day and those I care about would be assaulted or worse.
          The very fact that you say settle down with your freedom of speech claims puts you in the bracket of those who wish to control speech, save your own.

        3. good story, but I’m responding to one thing.
          your freedom of speech is not in danger.
          because you can say this crap all you want.
          people might not like it.
          you’re still free to say it.
          understand?

        4. Wrong! The very aspect that you have a convenient blockage on physical violence and endangerment makes me question your sanity. Jostling is fine. You are never joking when you tell someone you will rape them or beat them to death. If you think those are jokes say them to a person in real life and watch what happens.

        5. they’re not violating your freedom of speech either.
          if they were, all the dudes who threaten rape would be arrested. They don’t even get their social media accounts suspended.
          now, I’m not condoning threats of violence.
          I’m saying your freedom of speech is not in jeopardy.

        6. Wrong again. No one here threatened rape yet were threatened with law enforcement. The very definition of distorted speech and convenient re-tellings. Your group, followed with likes and rallying support by people like yourself, have been viewed as the heroes stopping rape. If we actually did say any of the things we were accused of, we would have been doxxed by an illegal organization, assaulted publicly by kind folks like yourself, and isolated for the monsters we are not.
          And all of this has been a major notification of active solipsism in thinking as well as a true education on the inherent blood lust in people like you.

        7. sigh. nobody knows what freedom of speech means.
          it does not mean immunity from criticism or rage.
          it means you are prosecuted for voicing your beliefs.
          who among you has been literally prosecuted by the law?

        11. No law was necessary with mob rule.We were threatened with sanctioned mob rule. We were threatened with physical harm, and our families lives were threatened as well. Granted freedom of speech has been disputed by legal agents but the inalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness plus being registered only after a crime is committed makes you and your group, the aggressors initiating criminal activity.
          What is funny is how you don’t even see how you were manipulated into being enraged goons looking to rape rapists and save your streets. This is the very same logic of every human who ever wanted to be proactive in doing good. The only way to be proactive in stopping a criminal activity is to become a criminal guilty of the very thing you say want to prevent. And this is all pleasant theory, but the fact remains, you and every thing your group have come here to do makes you all appear as the real monsters.

        13. No silly…when they threatened rape, they were joking. You started this you rapists! Just because you didn’t mentioned rape today, doesn’t make a non rapist, you rape apologists.
          Isn’t it funny how rape is now the new “wolf” the media needs to shout for attention?

        14. men can threaten rape to strangers online and live free because the threats aren’t considered substantiated. same principle goes both ways.

        15. are you able to go out to the pub for a friendly drink with whomever you want. Not everyone is

        16. WTF are you talking about? We had a case where a Canadina man disagreed with some SJW’s on Twitter here and was charged because the tarts felt “unsafe.” It was chucked out of court so again WTF are you talking about?

        17. There isn’t one ‘group’ attacking Roosh. A lot of people can’t stand him for the crap he writes.. And he he has made money for being provocative. You guys write as though he’s a swell fellow who’s misunderstood. Come on.
          ‘

        19. We seem to write about him in this way because he has collectively gathered a bunch of different thoughts into one space and highlighted an issue we didn’t know existed. The idea of Roosh being swell or not is irrelevant as we judge him by his actions, and his actions, by and large have been that of a peaceful man trying to understand the world and explain what he has received to be exposed for scrutiny.
          Not much different than any other scientist, except now we are publicly not allowed to question things. I am not allowed to question publicly why do so many women cheat but men are labelled with being ill equipped. I am not allowed to publicly question matters on Judaism and racism’s affect on people when exposed and hidden.
          You are coming from the perspective of self when you call him bad. You are a woman and he has written a bunch of topics that aren’t kind on the nature of women. Are these natures still a possibility? Maybe. But before we even get to the question you want the statement silenced because it doesn’t sit well with you. Not to mention on the surface, why would someone who has little to no respect for one side of the race be so keen on trying to understand them more?
          Don’t speak as if you know all of us. You don’t. You were simply utilized for your ignorance and self importance to further attack a large group of people on the grounds of the accusations of one man. A man who has of yet has never been accused of rape by any of the women he writes about and has numerous articles trying to keep college students informed on how to protect themselves from false rape charges.
          While we can go back and forth with his qualities, it is clear he is coming from a good enough place to garner international attention. And of all the issues he can bring up and discuss that may be helpful for many lives, what would silencing him do for the world? If the mob you may have flown in on is any indication of what is left after this ‘group’ is dissolved, then I await the oncoming prison states.

        20. Watching a lynch mob come after someone based on what you know to be an intentional smear perhaps?

        22. Nobody threatened to rape strangers online
          Plenty of equalists people did threaten direct violence against these meetup though, hardly comparable to a vague think piece

        23. Do you have any idea how many women have been threatened with rape and death on the internet? Most men don’t give 2 shits about that.

        24. “nobody threatened to rape strangers online”
          so I see this is your first day on the internet, welcome!

        25. No shit. These guys are clueless as to how women are treated here. And the usual response from most men is women need to get over their feelings. The response here is amusing to read.

        26. Yeah, I absolutely think the media coverage of this is completely wrong and i don’t condone it. The coverage is inaccurate and the threats are inexcusable.

        27. Damn. I have no interest in silencing him; I just think he is despicable. A lot of men also think that. He is judged for his writings, as he should be. He doesn’t just attack women’s very being and worth, he teaches men how to manipulate women into sex. What an admirable peacef
          ul fellow.
          I’m not ignorant or self important.(why the personal attacks?), I don’t believe. I’m familiar with this site and enjoy it when it’s not focused on women, even when i disagree with the content.
          As far as roosh’ behavior, I’ve read that in one of his books he said he had sex with a woman who was so drunk it would have been rape had it occurred here. Is that cool with you? Is ok if he degrades aw hole group of people as long as it’s not your group? He is an amoral douchbag. I think if i was a man i would see that,too,I would hope

        28. nobody threatened to rape anyone here, including roosh
          and threats made outside of ROK are rarely carried out – the egalitarian threat of violence is more likely to occur because they believe equality is justified

        29. BS!
          When you can’t even get a point view or defend yourself in the media that is most defintely a derprivation of one’s freedom of expression.
          I mean without even reading the article we had mayors, members of parliment and most deplorably journalists jump on the band wagon of calling us a “pro rape group” and wanting to ban meetings.
          If that’s not preventing our freedon of expresseion and peaceable assembly please tell me what is?

        32. You do need to get over your feelings but I know you can’t.
          That’s the difference between women and men. We argue then we come to an understanding, forget the whole thing then move on..
          Clearly as woman you cannot do this. We get it.
          You are frixated and annoyed that we don’t agree with you, have forbid your kind (gays as well) from postring here and honestly don’t care what you say or think about it.
          You won’t find us posting on a women’s / homosexual sites becuase honestly I could care less what you do there.

        35. @Lerellen-
          He had sex with a very drunk woman who chose to come home with him . What did she expect to happen? To go home with him to play chess? Look at his stamp collection? After how many drinks is an individual not responsible for their behavior?

  12. Perspective and prioritizing skills are thrown out the window when university-indoctrinated, shriekers have an opportunity to lose themselves in a supposed “rights-based” hysteria.

  13. Now-now, lets stay focused on the reason people are outraged. People are not outraged for a group gathering. People are outraged at the notion that you promote segregation, rape and hate against women. The Hizb ut-Tahrir meeting – blanket covering by yourselves stating since they are Muslim they must be associated with extremist groups. (thats stereotyping by the way – and I havent seen an event gathering for beheading women on a set day in over 20 different countries). Then saying “men in front and women in the back” is the same as what you were proposing is WRONG because it was published that women were not allowed to attend your gathering. (that is discrimination based on sex – if both sexes are allowed to attend an event it is not discrimination) Honour killings are not a RELIGION they are sub-groups of cultural extremists. What your group is doing is creating a sub-group of cultural extremism whereby women are stripped of their Western Rights in society. Ie. the freedom to not be raped. How about you change your comments about rape and tell all men NOT TO TAKE women to a private dwelling unless the relationship is serious. Is that not more of a logical response? Is that not considered more of a “Man” to “think” this way? considering posts have stated “most men are smarter than women and have more education”… have you taken a look at how many women have completed degrees and diplomas vs men in the year 2015??? Women are surpassing your narrow minded blog. Deal with it.

    1. Women would be encouraged to attend if it weren’t for the feminazi scum taking shit out of context. If it wasn’t for the “rape advocacy” bullshit then it would have been something else,probably liken us to Julien Blanc.
      Why would you want to attend some place where you wouldn’t fit in? Attention?

        1. The same rule applies to the ladies hockey team or the men’s rugby team. The Freemason lodges have always been like this too- what’s wrong with private clubs that are based on this principle?

        2. most places now allow men and women to play on the same teams if there is no gender different option.

        3. Are you thick?Can’t you see the reason mentioned in the first line of the comment? Infiltrators are bad enough let alone women feeling “triggered” by non-mysoginistic lingo or “left out” because she hasn’t found people with the same areas of interests to discuss or agree with.
          Nothing is says cheap tactics than witnessing one and saying that a whole different thing happened, then making a whole story about muh triggerz. Feminazis find a purpose from shadow boxing against ghost entities.
          Also, there’s the issue of challenging the power of the feminist orientated establishment by meeting despite the stark warning of public lynching .
          Capisce?

        5. To protect their emotions from hearing words that might upset them. You know, like a trigger warning but enforced.
          Plus to create a safe space for men that are being actively abused by modern feminists. Safe spaces are quite the craze these days, why don’t you support equality to let men have theirs?

        6. None of the national rugby and soccer teams are thankfully mixed. It just won’t work, besides, doubtlessly women players would say that they’re been molested by the male players in the scum for example.
          Why do you always want to be equal anyway? Can you not accept the fact that there are different things that the sexes do better together.

        7. Hahah no , no women are in NFL, NBA , or nhl . The UFC doesn’t have unisex weight brackets nor does boxing . You’re delusional

        8. What are you talking about? There are vast number of men-only clubs; They’re called fraternities. Even when you leave university, private, men-only clubs still exist; The men-only yoga class at my gym seems to be conflict-free. A friend of mine attends a men’s book club and a few others go to support groups which have gender-segregated meetings.
          So, again: What is the big deal with men getting together in a club and drinking beer and socializing with other men? What is this dire female need to be included in male only clubs?

        9. Not in the first few meetings, like the first 10. The tribe needs to form a study group and there’s a posibility some men might drop out let alone women. It;s a men focused group,i know i know, and it ROK look bad but hey that;s life.

        10. I bet if a woman really wanted to try out she could…generally men have more strength and endurance.

        11. the issue was the public attention drawn to rape. if you didn’t have that then you probably could have had your meeting.

        13. Except, AGAIN, no one here advocates rape. You keep repeating that lie because you read it on the internet and lack the ability to think deeply about anything. Here’s an exercise to help you gain those skills: Try disagreeing with yourself, and see what happens. I promise you won’t die.

        14. People think roosh and his boys are misogynists because they are. All you have to do is read the titles of the articles and the comments.

        17. You can say that again; then again. maybe that’s their only tactic for this fight.

    2. Yes, in gender studies. That’s not an education. Deal with it.
      Also ROK had practical advice for men to deal with women and rape accusations before:

      Men Should Start Recording Sex With A Hidden Camera


      The “legalize rape article” wasn’t for real, as has been repeatedly stated.
      Hizb ut-Tahrir is not a meeting, it’s an extremist organization that is allowed to walk around the world an assemble freely by feminists while promoting hate speech.
      There are already many “women only”/”no boys allowed” meetings across the world, even sanctioned by governments and academia. I see you hate equality. You’re being a ba feminist!

      1. If it wasn’t for real, and isn’t a part of the view, then why keep it posted? there is no satire view on the rape of women.
        How about this article:
        http://www.rooshv.com/when-no-means-yes
        Is he going to change it to “satire” as well? and the women’s rights movement just got its name for no reason? Everyone should be able to vote, have a right to clean water, food, free from discrimination, harassment, violence, segregation and to privacy.

        1. As someone that whenever he hears “no” he puts his pants back on and walks away because I’m too old to deal with this kind of bullshit, I get a lot of comments of the like: “You should have been more insistent”, “I just wanted to see how much you want me”, blablabla
          If you’ve ever put your penis inside a woman you’d understand that sometimes “no” doesn’t mean “no”. Women themselves say it with their own mouths. Figuring out when that is the case is key. So spare me your pretend knowledge of what women want. I doubt you’ve seen any naked other than yourself in the mirror.

        2. The more I think about it, the more I actually agree in part with your comment about rape and satire. The former is a very contentious and traumatic issue for many people, and, it’s debatable whether a writer can satirize issues like this. I suppose it can be done, but, I’d imagine you’d need to be a very skillful writer to accomplish this without meaning becoming totally distorted.
          “Everyone should be able to vote, have a right to clean water, food, free from discrimination, harassment, violence, segregation and to privacy” I agree, but, likewise any group of people have the natural right to meet and discuss issues in an open and free society (to use Karl Popper’s phrase) without been harassed and bullied in submission by mob rule, surely?

        4. Yes they do. But it also depends on the topics. If it infringes on another person’s right to be free from harm, how do you handle it?

        5. “If it infringes on another person’s right to be free from harm, how do you handle it?” How does a meeting where a bunch of men talk about what’s going on around them in society infringe upon another person’s right to be free? If you follow this logic then every pub, tavern, restaurant, private home in the land should be constantly monitored by the external thought police for “danger words” like immigrants and tits because they might offend people who are not even at the meeting? Do you know how absurd and dictatorial your statement reads- it’s opposed to every democratic principle that your forefathers worked hard to achieve. Jesus you people should “check out your privilege” and go travel to the middle east and north Africa like I have and REALLY SEE what societies are like, especially for women, without these values.

        6. Roosh is the most unlikely person I can think of to successfully write a satire on rape. He comes with all of his nasty baggage; don’t you understand that? The SJW’s (whatever) have read his stuff before. A guy that is contemptuous of women and instructs his followers on how to manipulate women for sex probably should be be writing an publishing this ‘satire’

        7. I actually don’t think it’s a topic that lends itself particularly well to satire, unless you’re an exceptionally gifted writer. I don’t think it was rape he was satirizing when you think about it more, but, more the notion of consensual sex in private?
          It’s a tricky area, for example there are gay men who like sex that isn’t always consensual to begin with, probably this occurs if we’re honest between men and women on occasions too, sometimes it’s part of the attraction, and other times it’s anything but. Still, no matter what sex or gender, legally a clear word like Yes or No means something in such cases.

      2. The snive comment for “gender studies is not an education”… very mature. Educated people use arguments, they don’t start out with an implied insult. Grab a book and get an education.

    3. College is ridiculously easy now , I have 2 degrees AMD I slept through most of my classes . Graduated with honors too . Also , liberal arts degrees are bullshit, it only means your parents have enough money to piss away to let you go on extended summer break for 4 years ton”find yourself “

        1. I am “educated ” I used to work in my states health department. My senior abasement was in front of the head of the untied states navy’s industrial hygiene program and I got an A . College isn’t hard , sorry to burst your bubble

    4. First and foremost, people are outraged over nothing. Men should be allowed to fellowship without your approval or a media circus.
      Secondly, no one here believes in or promotes segregation, rape or hate against women. You can repeat that lie as many time as you like but it won’t become any less false.
      Lastly, honor killings are a distinctly Muslim phenomenon and highly prevalent in Islamic countries and among Muslims. Hence, to dismiss them as “sub-groups of cultural extremists” is profoundly ignorant.
      Furthermore, it’s extremely ironic how you attack men who tell you (repeatedly) they’re against rape but allow (and protect) hundreds of thousands of immigrant men who flat out brag about gang rapes. You’re idiot and part of the problem.

      1. First, Fellowship is acceptable when it won’t result in harm to another individual.
        Second, have you read any articles on this site? pertaining to women? like the head would be receiving death threats for no reason…
        Third, Stereotyping an entire RELIGION and saying that they ALL do it is wrong and lacks serious education, like just STFU and stop posting. You are instigating un-needed hate and creating further limits on Muslim practitioners who do NOT support honour killings. The religion does not support honour killings.I suggest you find someone to talk to who is muslim. My argument was for the article, not abstract thoughts you can pull out of the air.
        Furthermore, The article says nothing about about mass immigration. This is also an issue, but a completely different monster.

        1. Did you seriously not see the irony of this statement before you hit the ‘Post’ button. At least, I have facts on my side. All you have are feelings.

        2. First, the only ones threatening violence were people such as yourself. Who willfully choose to mischaracterize views they don’t understand.
          Secondly, this isn’t a blog dedicated to or about women. The articles regarding women barely make up a fraction of the blog’s content. If it bothers you, don’t read the blog.
          Thirdly, I’ve already addressed your accusation of stereotyping an entire religion and I’ll never understand why/how idiots like you rally against harmless people like Roosh but will ardently support a religion that does not recognize western values of separation of Church and State, routinely oppresses women, homosexuals, non-believers, etc? As I said before, you’re a fucking idiot.
          Lastly, the increase of Honor killings, in the West, is directly corrected with mass immigration and the rise of Islam in Western counties. You live in a bubble.

        3. One could also say that the increase of immigrant men into the country is correlated with rape. What you’re doing is the same as what feminists are doing; ignorance+sensationalist media=wrong conclusions. I’ve seen some of the Sufi Muslim gatherings and men and women are separated, but side by side rather than front/back (and even then, there is no partition). Partitioned segregation is only in some areas, such as locker rooms, bathrooms, etc.
          You say Muslim immigrants, but they could also be called “wahabi”, a sect within Islam. Only they do it. (Governments should just allow families or at least women and children and not single men to enter)

        4. You’ve got to be kidding me. Not a single Muslim country lives by modern democratic and secular values. NOT ONE.
          Fucking Liberal Relativists. How much idiotic semantic nitpicking do we have to put up with? Islam has said again and again it will rule the world and almost achieved this goal during the middle ages. Is that seriously what you want?
          There is no separation of church and state under Islam. There is little to no freedom of expression under Islam. There is little to no freedom of worship. You like feminism and women’s rights? How about Gay rights? Sorry but those don’t exist in Islam. How do you feel about the sexual abuse of boys? Slavery and sex slavery? Muslims have been trading slaves a hell of a lot longer than the flash-in-the-pan slavery period of the U.S. If you deny their prophet, you may find your own throat slashed in your sleep and no justice to avenge your death.
          You’d better wake the fuck up you fucking idiot.

        5. “Not a single Muslim country lives by modern democratic and secular values.” Just because a country does not do something, doesn’t mean that it shouldn’t change. I could go and say “Hey, look at this liberal western world, making dumb feminist laws.” OK, so you can give me an example of a western country that doesn’t, but that isn’t the point, as I’m sure you’ll agree; I am referring to the fallacious aspect. Secondly, “modern democracy” is a general notion, and has many failings. As for “secular values”, Islam does have areas of wide freedom, and not everyone under shariah must adhere to the Islamic lifestyle. Some things are banned, yes, and some things are more liberal than even current western laws. The question is, does it give more benefit than harm in the long run in that particular system?
          “Islam has said again and again it will rule the world and almost achieved this goal during the middle ages. Is that seriously what you want?” Any group can propagate. And if it is good, then okay, and if not, then no. It depends on their methods. If it is violent due to aggression, then it is wrong. If it is violent due to self defense, ok. If they are propagating peacefully and taking over the world, then there is nothing one can do about it. Islam actually started peacefully and the pagans were violent, and Islam responded likewise. And the Roman and Persian empires attempted the same and were met with the same fate. This is how Christianity spread through the Holy Roman Empire- Peaceful people, but they fight when needed, and certainly there will be violence when a new religion comes about.
          “There is no separation of church and state under Islam. There is little to no freedom of expression under Islam. There is little to no freedom of worship.”
          There was a time when Muslims, Jews, and Christians were allowed to freely go to the Holy Land to pray to whatever God they believed in. That period was during Islamic rule. It was not limited to that area- it was the general rule of freedom of religion. Yes, there were some areas and time periods where that was not the case- but that’s almost inevitable considering a centuries-long rule. Religion and its adherents are not interchangeable- what religion says and what people do are different. Which is why the slaves and boy abuse doesn’t hold (also note your saying that “Oh islam did slaves longer than our flash-in-the-pan”-attempt to mitigate the clear wrong as well as trying to lay blame to one side. FYI, the US economy was built on the backs of slaves and was more instrumental to that new economy than other areas, which allowed all the rest of what happened to occur, except the genocide of the Native Americans which the west was responsible for-that was the #1 cause) I could go on about the US.Going along with this, there was much expression as well- Muslims introduced soap and other instruments of hygiene to Europe, was at the forefront of science, etc. If there is no separation of church and state, it is ok as long as that particular church allows freedom. I do think that gay rights is dumb, and so are some of the things in women’s rights. I only see the cost-benefit as the end determinant-some of my views are much more conservative and some much more liberal, than liberal and conservatives themselves.
          “If you deny their prophet, you may find your own throat slashed in your sleep and no justice to avenge your death.” I’ve read some of the Quran. I have not heard a single verse that says that one should be killed for insulting their prophet-rather, it says that they should be patient. Again, Islam and Muslims are 2 distinct entities, and they are not interchangeable.

        7. There was a time when Muslims, Jews, and Christians were allowed to freely go to the Holy Land to pray to whatever God they believed in. That period was during Islamic rule.

          Yes…that is called dhimmitude where the other non-muslim fellows were doomed to a 5th class citizen status and almost had no rights compared to the muslims. Yeah, so harmonious, right? /sarcasm off.

        10. This is why I said “Yes, there were some areas and time periods where that was not the case- but that’s almost inevitable considering a centuries-long rule.” I worded it like that because I knew people would responded in your manner. Were there not nonmuslim upperclassmen that existed in those times under Muslim rule? Yes of course.
          I expected posters here, who pride themselves on critical thinking, to put forth something that could have been considered an argument on at least high school level-guess I failed.

        11. Ibn Sina (Avicenna) invented “Essential Oil”, “Steam Distillation”, “Clincial trial”, “Pharmacopoeia”, “Alternative Cancer treatments”, “Quarantine” and “Clinical Pharmacology” born during the 10th century according to famousinventors.org.

        13. Avicenna invented “Essential Oil”, “Steam Distillation”, “Clincial trial”, “Pharmacopoeia”, “Alternative Cancer treatments”, “Quarantine” and “Clinical Pharmacology” during the 10th century.

        14. If you knew as much as you think you would know that the scenario I described was/is the norm not the exception. Of course the harshness of the rules varied with the ruler, if the ruler was generous or very greedy (remember as a non-muslim you had pay a myriad of taxes in order to be “protected” unlike your Muslim neighbours) the relations were more or less peaceful with a couple of killings here and there but not massacres. However if the ruler was stricter and harsher, you would expect regular cleansing and tightening of the screws until you leave or you convert. That is how most of the Levant that used to be Christian went over to Islam and how even up to these days, tolerance is not achieved through ballots or protests but through the usage of AK-47s and tanks (see Syria and old Iraq for more examples).

          Were there not nonmuslim upperclassmen that existed in those times under Muslim rule? Yes of course

          Of course there were, but they were a minority of a minority, in many cases connected to the elite that rules the country and when it comes to Christians, were not exempt from the pogroms when the masses say they had enough of non-muslims having some kind of power over the “true believers” (see Turkey at the fall of the Caliphate, the history of Syria and Egypt for examples of muslim “tolerance”…). Bottom line: I’d rather be shot than enjoy such a “tolerance”.

        15. I will talk about the following according to the Rashidun Caliphate, or Rightly Guided- the Prophet and the 4 who followed after, considered by most Muslims to be, as the name says, rightly guided. I say this because it is possible to pull innumerable examples of supporting either side with bad leaders, good leaders (as you’ve said), from such a long history etc.and would degenerate into ‘look at this!’ which is useless aka hasty generalization fallacy. It would be like saying Americans are fat, see the obesity rate, etc. In this regard, looking at that period, it can be narrowed down to, at least, something that more accurately depicts Islamic actions rather than Muslim actions than otherwise.
          The tax you refer to is I believe Jizya. This protection tax as you call it was levied upon able working men. Women, elderly, children, the poor, etc. did not pay it. Additionally, a person could exempt themselves from Jizya by entering into the military. Able Muslim men were required to enter in the military. In that regard, a nonmuslim man at least had an option. The tax rate was generally proportional to wealth: the Muslim prophet levied a very low flat rate tax for everyone. Your examples are not within the time period I was referring to-but certainly, many Muslim leaders did wrong later on.
          And again, there were a minority of a minority who were nonmuslim upperclassmen- but in the era I am talking about, there were many nonmuslim citizens who were rich in Muslim controlled lands.

        16. I looked at your first example. Avicenna was a Persian and the invention first originated in China. I will assume you simplied wikipedia “Islamic Golden Age” and phoned it in.
          Hardly leaders of science when you expropriate other lands and ideas, but an Islamic apologist will do what he can.

        17. 1. Most of what you said is patently false:
          e.g. a Muslim is literally a person who follows the religion of Islam. Hence, they’re not “2 distinct entities.” If you follow the Quran, you’re Muslim. Period.
          e.g. You’ll find in the Quran (and especially ahadith) that killing was often done against pagans preemptively or against pagans who wouldn’t convert.
          e.g. Islam has never “propagated peacefully.” Palestine, Syria and Egypt were once the most heavily Christian areas in the world until those areas were conquered by Islam, by the sword.
          Those are just the low lying fruit and there were more inaccuracies but I don’t have time to correct your ignorance.
          2. Blaming Western colonialism, instead of overcoming the denial of Islamic imperialism, is the precise reason why Islam hasn’t ever found internal peace.
          3. Learn how to make a point clearly and concisely. No one has time to read long-winded internet treatises.
          Progressivism and over-tolerance has rotted your fucking brains and you’re part of the problem.

        18. Not really. But if you want to ignore hundreds of years of scientific study and say it was copied, then one can’t help one who follows denialism.

        19. A Muslim is one who accepts the ‘shahada’-There is no God but God and Muhammad is the messenger of God. They might or might not follow the Qu’ran but are considered Muslims. By your definition, breaking any law of Islam (drinking, eating pork, etc.), one is out of the fold of Islam, because they are not following the Quran and a Muslim is one who follows it.
          No, preemptive attacks were done when it was clear the pagans was preparing to attack. Muslims were peaceful, were driven out of Mecca, and so of course they had full right to attack to go back to their homeland.
          “Leave the Abyssinians alone as long as they leave you alone, and do not fight the Turks unless they fight you.” Sunan Abu Dawud 4302, Grade: Sahih (authentic). These are 2 examples of peaceful propagation.
          I do agree that the primary cause of problems is Muslims (But not Islam). Western denialism and imperialism is a large problem however, and is a major reason why there are so many attacks against the west.
          Sure.
          I’m not progressive nor over-tolerant. You are simply connotating what I said with your inaccurate inferences. I support limiting immigration. I support the death penalty. I support a lot of what ROK says (but a lot of it I don’t) Do not talk about that which you have little to no knowledge of.

        20. More misdirection and ambiguous nonsense with no meaningful message. All schools of Islam agree that apostates must be killed and Non-Muslims must be subjugated or killed. That’s a fact. All muslims are muslims because they are a) ignorant of the Koran and hadiths or b) fully agree with them. Hence to say “primary cause of problems is Muslims (But not Islam),” is patently bullshit.
          Furthermore, the prophet Muhammad is considered Al-Insan al-Kamil which is ‘the perfect man.’ Muhammad lived during the 6th and 7th centuries. Still, he is the model par excellence to be imitated. He is revered in the Muslim world as the primary model of human behavior and it is believed that the more a muslim is like him, the better off he is. Muhammad had over 800 people beheaded from a single tribe, wiped out all the Jews in Saudi Arabia, fucked Aisha, whilst she was still playing with dolls; I could go on and on.
          Logical conclusion: Muhamammad was a paedophile, a mass murdering cultist and overall piece of shit.
          You’re either a dishonest Muslim, an apologist or extremely ignorant and you’re in no position to critique anyone’s level of knowledge.

        21. No. You made a claim, and I refuted, now you’re just trying new tack and changing the subject.
          Those people did betray Muslims. Ones that did not were spared. This is one reason why the western world has so much trouble. Not enough harshness against those types. And the Islamic age of marriage is puberty, which was the norm in many areas even in the western world in the earlier centuries.
          Logical conclusion: let young people marry rather than make them watch porn and hide their GF while underage.
          Believe what you wana believe.

        22. How did you refute anything buddy? All you said was “ignorance+sensationalist media=wrong” but where are the facts? All you’ve brought to the tables is feelings and anecdotal evidence but you’re more than welcome to feign victory if you like.
          In Denmark alone, roughly 35% of the rapes are committed by muslims, despite being 4% of the population. Why don’t you look at Sweden where blond haired girls are dying their hair dark not to fall pray to Islamic rape gangs that view blonds as a worthy target. Why don’t you look at France where a cartoonist was shot for a cartoon. Every one is sick of it. For centuries, Islam has brought nothing but violence everywhere it spreads. Sorry if the facts don’t fit in with your ideology but facts are facts.
          Oh and btw, I’ve never seen such a desperate attempt to defend sex with children. Welcome to Islam! But I guess if you believe in a prophet who (a) believed he was demon-possessed, (b) tried repeatedly to commit suicide, (c) claimed to be the victim of black magic, (d) admittedly delivered verses from Satan, (e) had sex with a nine-year-old girl, (f) told his followers it’s okay to beat their wives into submission, and (g) told his followers it’s okay to rape their female captives, this sort of behavior will seem normal!

        23. That’s not all I said, obviously. You ask me about facts, and yet make claims without references, holding them to be fact. You make claims and I say why they are wrong and then you make other claims (red herring) without a counter rebuttal to the original claim.
          Statistics=/=facts. I could say that blacks (minorities) in the US cause the majority of violent crimes in the US. Facts are facts. But the reality is that poorer areas, lack of education (most often caused by greedy governments) and other socioeconomic factors are the root cause. But of course, the “bomb until the problem goes away” mentality is highly prevalent. You say “look what this muslim did” and yet ignore, for example, that a muslim police officer died in the line of duty to stop the ones responsible for that (Ahmed Merabet.) Nothing but violence? Islam did introduce soap to Europe-before that, Europe was disease ridden and filthy. Facts are facts.
          Again, making claims without evidence. But I’ll address the main point. Sex with children. So, a child is anyone under the age of 18? Or depending on the place, 16? The location magically turns them into a child or adult? And someone who has gone through puberty but is ‘a child’ (the definition of a pedo is one who is attracted to prepubescents) by such laws must then abstain? For so many years? Ridiculous. You claim to take the red pill, but only because you’re wearing rose tinted glasses.
          Whatever. Say whatever you want, you’ve not show knowledge of fallacies, knowledge of the subject matter, or able to construct a decently prepared argument. What a waste of time. Enjoy the rest of the Super Bowl. Goodbye.

        24. A 9 year-old is considered a child in civilized countries you fucking retard and if violence were an issue of poverty, low income and/or lack of education the violent crime rate for a place like Appalachia would be comparable to places like Milwaukee, St. Louis and Chicago’s south side and yet it isn’t (and we both know why).
          You speak of fallacies and the red pill. Yet, you return with more straw arguments about 18 year-olds and anecdotal fallacies about muslim cops. You can’t tolerate facts which contradict your emotional beliefs and you have nothing intelligent to say to me. You should probably stick to pursuits that match your intellectual capacity, like the super bowl, before you have a brain aneurysm.
          Oh and btw Google “rape muslim europe.” Those three words alone bring up 6,720,000 results you idiot but yeah, I know “factz iz factz.” DERP.

    5. The people are outraged because they are as deeply venomous and dishonest as you are. You are a clear example of just how corrosive and destructive the female presence in our culture has become. So twisted by your own venom that you can’t form a single thought without twisting it into a lie.

    6. Women are not allowed into men’s public restrooms. Are you going to protest that women are discriminated? Geez!

    7. Everything you wrote after now now is rejected,
      starting with a sense of smug superiority means you are an insecure loser.

  14. SJWs–and basically all leftists–love to protest against any free, safe, Western target whom they know will not retaliate with threats of violence or death. How ironic–though none will ever admit it–that they are closer in beliefs and behaviors to Islamist savages than their Western targets.

    2. I would go just to meet regular guys to socialize with, as opposed to the many sleepwalking males I work with everyday. Hopefully, Tyler Durden will appear, and we’ll do some bare-knuckle fighting. You know, just good old male fun.

  16. You know why these filthy mudslimes are allowed to patrol through your streets undeterred while threatening to behead infidels? Because VIOLENCE WORKS. People are terrified of these creatures! The SJWs know they would kick their faces smashed in if they tried to pull this shit on the Moslems. Why? Because Moslems are too primitive to care about being called names or threatened with the loss of their jobs, whereas white men and men in the manosphere turn tail and retreat when threatened instead of fighting back. This is why we lose, every single time. We need to fight back and smash skulls to take back what is rightfully ours, not retreat and regroup and claim “tactical victory” on internet forums. Until we realize this, we will go nowhere and allow women and the Jews to trample all over us while third world muds run amok with all the protections of the government.

    1. I will not opt for violence or promote it. But, yes, you do make a great point about violence and why SJW only mess with the suburbanized-male. We never see them in the hood protesting violence, nor out in the country protesting the mechanized farming of animals.

      1. Again, look at how successful violence is. Do you see Muslims taking over this country by peaceful protests? Your own examples prove my point. To realize the solution but refraining from embracing it is folly.

    3. “… Because Moslems are too primitive to care about being called names or threatened with the loss of their jobs, whereas white men and men in the manosphere turn tail and retreat when threatened instead of fighting back.” — that’s how they ‘get’ you. You are afraid to be called into HR because “someone feels uncomfortable.” ; meanwhile you think a bunch of thugs on welfare give a shit, even if they get sent to prison? They get three hots and a cot from the government…the difference is the form it takes. Idle men with nothing to lose can conquer a civilization…we are witnessing it in Western Europe.

      1. Good thing I’m a welder and there is no HR where I work. You’re right, sooner or later men will realize we have absolutely nothing to lose and our enemies are complete cowards who only fight in packs, and even then, without much effectiveness. Cleanup of the West should be procedural once white men decide to fight back.

  17. “So why are SJWs going crazy only over us? Because they know we have no interest in any violence.”
    That’s what it comes down to, huh? Women have an instinctive hatred for men who are not willing to use violence — they see them as feminized.

  19. The “threats” against the meetup was a worldwide shit test, and Roosh failed. We won’t be taken seriously until we stop taking them seriously.

    1. Yes, definitely tested. Surely many alpha males without total awareness saw this as a defeat. I have the privilege of knowing that truly things MAY have gotten real, I don’t know, but I don’t rule it out ether. Men who are fair and willing to protect others fairly, despite, the TV programming, are hugely scary to the agenda.
      Look what happened to #BlackLivesMatter. FBI infiltration at every meeting, every corner, every protest. Would the FBI have been undercover with us?
      YOU BET YOUR ASS.
      It was so effective that the *real* black community leaders were supplanted, degraded, or jailed and the less qualified ended up marching with Al Sharpton, the man that plans and leads their downfall! Sickening.
      It depends on the next move whether this “brand” and means of communication is fractured.

    2. The establishment’s response to our “meetup” day is an indication that we are taken *very seriously* by the powers that be, and that we’ve obviously frightened them in some way…
      That said, nothing is stopping *you* from personally going to a meetup; some of the meetups are still taking place – although – I’m not 100% sure which ones are still on.
      I do agree that the feminists and SJWs themselves may not “take us seriously” because many of the meetings are indeed cancelled – but let’s look at the *long term* here. We have now compiled (and are in the process of compiling) all kinds of evidence that our opponents are violent, unstable, and corrupt to the core. This information shall be exploited and used as we move forward.
      And, we *will* move forward and we *will* reschedule meetup dates and tribal meetings. This should be used as a learning experience and the threats made against us should be exploited for our purposes in educating the general public.

        1. Fair enough. I understand this is frustrating – and in some ways can be seen as a “defeat”. I’m of the mind that a disadvantage can be turned into a future advantage (if handled properly and with a cool head).
          I’d still recommend getting together with your close friends (or family) and perhaps discussing the matter over a few beers – if you so choose.
          I’m going to be meeting with a small group (although at this point I won’t say where, but perhaps in the future it will become more established and public) to discuss strategy going forward.

      2. Be prepared when these SJWs say their threats online was just a joke and a satire when they are faced with a criminal prosecution.

    3. I like how Ezra Levant defended Roosh “He basically trolled the planet!” lol….since it’s now Saturday nite, the great global panic has passed. there will be one round of SJW back slapping that they ‘stopped’ the big bad Roosh, then it’ll be back to business. I suggest get lawyers and publicists to get out in front of this crap next time, but thats just me.

  20. Keep compiling screenshots of threats and false news stories, gentleman. When the time comes (when our movement gains sufficient strength and numbers), we will be presenting these rape and death threats to the media and to our friends and families – or at least to the more “independent” media. This will help give us a perceived “moral high ground” with the general public.
    We need to compile as much evidence as possible that these feminists, SJWs, and mainstream “news” organizations are violent, corrupt, and emotionally unstable. We need to begin our own “propaganda” campaigns if you will… The general public has only seen *their* side of the story… so, let’s compile evidence and begin strategizing ways for them to hear *our* side of the story as we move forward.
    Here’s an example of a screenshot of a threat made to our group that can be used for future purposes:

  21. I change my mind about the draft. I hope women do get drafted into the military everywhere. And I really hope they’re sent out en masse against ISIS.

  22. Gentlemen do you realize what this means? We just tried to get together for drinks and it drove the SJW’s insane. THE WHOLE WORLD TREMBLES AT THE SOUND OF OUR NAME! Long live RoK! Long live Roosh! Welcome all new members who came to see who it was that caused the establishment to shake in their shoes!

  24. How long is it going to be until the left realize they have gotten far more prohibitive than the people they are “fighting” against?

  25. How can a left wing student’s group credibly invite an organisation like Hizb ut-Tahrir who spread violent and rabid antisemitism, even I believe calling for the extermination of the State of Israel, who’ve called for the beheading of all homosexuals and other deviants and who preach that women should be treated no more than animals with no independent rights?
    This precisely is the point where former liberals like myself became totally disillusioned with the dishonesty and rank hypocrisy of the far left wing fanatics who’ve made a disgusting and vile mockery of all our Nations sense of tolerance and reason. How can any elected member of Parliament, journalist and media persona willfully ignore the evil of antisemitism, homophobia and misogyny that the far left are attracting to further undermine the traditional liberal values of our countries.
    The University of Western Sydney and The Australian National University should hang their heads in collective shame for promoting such medieval and vile intolerance.

    1. You’re certainly not the only one coming from a liberal starting point. I wonder if we are now seeing a tipping point where more and more liberals move rightward, recognising it as the only way to actually defend liberal values now.
      The world is polarising quickly.

      1. We’re witnessing our democratic values and culture being constantly eroded and undermined and supplanted by a form of multiculturalism that says the values of barbaric savages like ISIS and this other group mentioned in this article are somehow compatible with our values and principles. They’re not and never will be and any western group that endorses this agenda, like this feminist outfit in Australia, is an enemy of tolerance, liberty and freedom in their truest and most democratic sense. Is it any wonder that people are beginning to hate these treacherous snarly purple haired harpies who’ve noting but resentment in their petty little privileged souls. If they want to help international justice why don’t they volunteer to work with the real poor in Africa or Syria? Maybe because they’re hypocrites, but, hell maybe that’s just my cynicism coming out!

  26. Is it possible that those here on ROK have a higher IQ than the general population?
    How is it that we can understand the concept of satire, but so many people are completely confused? Is it just laziness that no one would bother to validate (by clicking and reading a short article) such an impacting accusation? Is it possible that as soon as the average person hears “pro-rape!”, all reason flies out the window… or maybe was just never really there?
    I find this all very disturbing.

    1. Yes. Sadly, we do. IQ isn’t dispersed as widely amongst people and only few locations house a high concentration with high intellect. Beyond celebrating our intellectual fortitude and more importantly, our collective need to discern facts to make the best decisions for ourselves, we need to face facts. We were harangued by friends, lovers, employers, and enemies alike who had one thing in common; they don’t want to think.
      I agree. It is very disturbing. But no one said the red pill solely pertained to the sexual market place.

      1. Sometimes I think I’m on a completely different wavelength than most people simply for the fact that I haven’t regularly watched television in years. And yeah you’re right, even people I’ve known for years showed their hate for “Roosh” over social media. No legitimate arguments however, simply that he is a bastard for “promoting legalized rape”.
        Also, I don’t mean to single out IQ as some all-important thing. Wisdom is key, but you get what I’m saying… free-thinkers…
        So fucked up man.

        1. Television does so much make believe thinking for the populace it is insane. The funny thing is, the last time so many people have coalesced behind assaulting a man of Middle Eastern descent it was Osama Bin Ladin and relatively speaking, a national landmark and almost 2,000 lives needed to go to inspire such hate. The news has programmed women so effectively that all of their thinking is done through them. Triggered? Here’s a new rally? Slut-shamed? Fuck more men and turn the tables on those patriarchal scum. He catcalled you? Show him the stats of 1 out of 4 women being raped, 77cents on the dollar per men payments, and how his behavior keeps rape institutionalized.
          Best believe we are all in the institution. And while we laughed about it before, our words are being taken one after the other all to one end, removal of free speech and legalized broadening of criminal persecution. We are even seeing sanctioned piracy by our government through the not so anonymous, Anonymous. We should have all seen the writing on the wall when the original leader for said group left what he started citing the new direction as his reasons to depart.
          Completely agree with you on this being fucked up. Had to look at my new friends and old friends in a different light. Thankfully one new friend cemented himself as an ally of truth, even if he doesn’t support ROK’s thinking.

        2. “We are even seeing sanctioned piracy by our government through the not so anonymous, Anonymous”
          Care to flesh this out? You think Anonymous is state-sponsored? I don’t know anything about this topic.

        3. At least three people on my feed begged with SJW emphasis, for Anonymous to arrive, find the members on this site, and dox them, well us. Because not a one of us has or will threaten them with any violence we were the happy catch all for all of their threats. That a group such as this can exist unfettered spells a lot of things out.
          Here are some things to think about. Why would a group of social pirates not hunt anyone other than direct targets from the media? The official leader of the group outed himself, went on an interview detailing their inner workings and was allowed to live happily ever after. The government regularly used to quietly destroy anyone remotely threatening what Anonymous does, domestic terrorism, and for the last few years the new cries are for Anonymous to save the day? The group is a shell front for SJW to be rabid dogs on whichever targets the government allows them to do. Much like the CIA they are very much sanctioned terrorism.
          Here is an article:
          http://www.inquisitr.com/2769942/anonymous-takes-aim-at-pro-rape-group-return-of-kings/

        6. What I’ve often thought is that it is men such as ourselves who frequent these sites (of all races, but whites in particular) are the ones who should be reproducing, as we are the ones who are able to think independently and look at things objectively. But we’re not. Even if every single man of reproductive age on ROK were to find a suitable wife and have five children per pair, we would still be outbred by the fools around us. How do we fight back, no, how can we SURVIVE against stupidity which is all around us and that shows no sign of abating?

        8. The problem is that having a family is a gigantic pain in the ass, and expensive. Happiness declines when you have kids and doesn’t pick back up until they leave the house.

        9. You are different most peopel especailly my fellow Canadians are weak in a metaphysical sense unable to self analyse, think properly and forumlate opinions and counter arguments in their own minds.
          It’s not their fault though there are several factors at play..

        10. Maybe Anonymous has been compromised by the state secutirty organs and is now used to fry bigger fish than us.

        13. U can’t reproduce bcuz ya loser scientists have not made possible fags to get pregnant hahahah and no woman would ever want ya coz ya al shit

        14. I know that WikiLeaks has not published anything on Russia for 8 years, since 2008 -and anonymous calls for the elimination of Israel.

    2. Most people don’t think rape is an appropriate topic for satire, As an example,. it would be unusual to publish a satirical article about murder. Would a piece on male rape be funny?

      1. Have you seen The Hateful 8?
        There is a scene in that movie where Samuel L. Jackson rapes and kills a white man with a big smile stretched across his face. Should I complain to the government that Quintin Tarantino should be excommunicated?
        This isn’t about whether rape is an appropriate topic for satire, this is about the public’s revulsion to the idea that men are congregating to discuss a common point of view.

        1. And the organized large scale defamation by the journalists and media intent on inciting violence from readers

        2. Roosh sure isn’t Quintin Tarantino. His Bang books and his previous articles haven’t exactly endeared him to the public.

        3. That is a movie, and no one is defending that character. Can’t be compare.
          Really no one (almost no one?) minds if men get together without women. It’s people’s opinion of Roosh, the cloak and dagger stuff, etc. that make this clickbait. Roosh has courted this pua, alpha bad boy image and he went too far, that’s all.

        4. Yes it is an amazing coincidence that an article written a year ago caused so much outrage, so close to our meet up date isn’t it.

        6. Can’t you fucking understand that we dont give a fuck here, you dumb bitch. Don’t like this place, FUCK OFF.

        7. Not true. Women always invade male spaces, that’s why there are virtually none left and why this male-only meetup had to be disrupted.

        8. Men organizing and communicating outside of State sponsorship or narrative control is a threat to the Agenda.
          Roosh pulled the curtain back for all to witness.

        9. Roosh’s books offer real world advice about how to actually going about the business of sleeping with women. Perhaps this revulsion is partially based on him holding up a mirror to today’s society and what it takes to win over a young lady in a bar at closing time? Its far more realistic than a single mother telling her son to “be a gentleman” and he never ever wins over a young woman…and ends up a sexually frustrated neckbeard with no life and outlet for his sexual energy…or worse!

      2. Hollywood produces movies about that annually. Your real concern is that it was done so by someone you don’t approve of.

        1. You don’t know what my ‘real concern’ is. Why are so many people on the internet so presumptuous?

        2. Go back to your comment: “Most people don’t think rape is an appropriate topic for satire,”
          I was pointing out that it is simply not the case from what produced in entertainment industry and what prompts you to come here and comment. I am also not presumptuous enough to say I know “what most people think is appropriate for satire.”

        3. Your lies won’t work here, we are not deceived by you. If you can’t handle the truth then why do you come here? The only one you are fooling here, is yourself.

        5. You are a liar. You are not fooling anyone but your own self. Telling you something about you that is true, isn’t an insult. If you can’t handle the truth then don’t interact with us. You actually have the nerve to come here and make assumptions about us and then get upset when someone returns the favor? You are the irrational one here. No I won’t believe any lame attempt you make to deny the other comments you have made on this site, so you would be wasting your time trying to convince me of your supposed innocence in that matter. Not that I really care, it’s your time to waste if you want to.

        6. @Lerellen-I am reading your comments as they go and trying to answer without rancor.

      3. Satire doesn’t require amusement. It doesn’t have to be funny, certainly Swift’s proposal to cannibalize babies was not funny. To your question, it would be in the eye of the beholder, some might think it funny, others shocking or ludicrous. Ask any stand-up comedian how difficult it can be to have any audience find their material funny, and yet their routines can be filled with relative social commentary.

        1. “…certainly Swift’s proposal to cannibalize babies was not funny. ” — It wasn’t supposed to be. Swift’s point was along the lines of telling the English that since they had created and ignored the larger situation (famine) that the most coldly logical step was to start eating Irish babies to ‘fix’ the problem. It was intended to outrage people into action.

        2. Exactly so. Amazing how many people are hearing ‘satire’ and thinking it has to make you laugh like MAD magazine. We hear everyone complain about the decline of the education system, the slipping test scores etc., this reaction proves that SJW thinking and activity is both the result and the cause. A self-perpetuating, self-fulfilling prophecy of mediocrity over meritocracy. Time for more people to wake up and join us here, they might learn something.

        3. Roosh is known by the general public to be a misogynist, and rightly so. I can’t imagine anyone saying otherwise. It’s been his bread and butter. How can someone like him write a ‘satire’ on rape and not expect a backlash?

        4. Maybe because he believes his audience should be adults with fully developed sensibility and intelligence to tell the difference? Call him a chauvinist, a provocateur, even question the technical approach and merit of his writing itself, but the media should never have started or spread the lie that he is a rapist or rape-advocate. That is either unethical, sloppy due diligence, or intentionally dishonest. Simple.
          EDIT: Also, backlash? Hardly anywhere near appropriate to dox someone’s mom or threaten anyone else with rape or death.

        6. @Lerellen-it is a satire not a “satire” in quotes….also, how can this site be misogynistic -we LOVE women and do not dislike nor despise them…we DO in good faith claim to portray them as they actually appear to us…especially here in the USA compared to the, in general, far more feminine and desirable Polish women who take far better care of their appearance and behavior…or Russian women for that matter. Talk to somebody who has actually been there, they can tell you…

      4. Feminism has programmed us to see discussing rape as something taboo, like discussing the holocaust. If you discuss the holocaust, you had better have something sympathetic to say about or you’ll be cast out of the moral community. Exactly the same is true of rape, because its presented as ‘the worst thing that could ever happen to a woman’ (which in most cases is probably quite true) but with the meaning that men have to steer clear of it, ensure they don’t crack insensitive jokes about it. Ultimately what we’re discovering is that the limitations on discussing rape do nothing to prevent rape from actually happening, but they do a great deal to ensure feminist ideology on rape remains unchallenged

        1. No offense really.but what would an unsympathetic holocaust comment be?
          Women in general are usually spoken about in a derogatory manner on this site; that’s why people are offended by the article. It would be difficult to swallow from anyone, much less fom Roosh.

        2. Something Norman Finkelstein related perhaps? Were you hoping I’d say something else? Denial? That way you claim we were nazis as well. Derogatory comments should be neither here nor there. You might want to ask yourself how feminists manage to get from being offended by derogatory comments to crying ‘ legal rape’ or pro rape. It’s because of stuff like this that so many people consider rape culture to be so much feminist fantasy

        3. Why so many presumptions about me? Why would i want to call you nazis? I don’t know why feminists do this or that but much of the content here is extremely misogynistic to all women, not just feminists. That is your right, certainly, but in the midst of that you can’t insert a ‘satire’ on rape an then be shocked at the backlash.

        4. You asked about what an unsympathetic holocaust would be? Since it mentioned to illustrate how feminists view the gravitas of rape – consider for instance the term ‘survivors’: where do you think that might come from – I saw it as potentially misdirecting. Your posts seem to demonstrate a kind of curiousity, but not about an argument I advanced with respect to how the feminist monopoly on discussing rape. Since the offending article is about rape, and explicitly challenges that feminist monopoly on how rape can be discussed (i.e. in feminist approved ways only) suggesting the article is ‘pro-rape’ looks to me like a very dishonest way of defending political and ideological orthodoxy.
          As with other articles then which may well be offensive – I think the authors would argue that they are not misogynistic although I I understand that they can hurt feelings on occasion – isn’t more sensible in that context to regard the writing on ROK as ‘heretical’ and deviating from feminist orthodoxy (which is now so embedded that it can masquerade as common sense) rather than just a bunch of sad losers or whatever saying nasty things about women because they have issues with women or are motivated by hate?
          Most of the articles here – a few of which I myself don’t much care – have a political purpose, which is not anti-woman, but is quite the opposite being designed to consider the conditions upon which it might be possible to relate constructively with the opposite sex, the core idea being that one can only hope to do this if one has a realistic (red pill) idea of what women are like in the main. In other words to the extent that they consider women, those articles are in the main oriented towards living with the opposite sex (yes, even women with tattoos should be avoided etc).
          Again I appreciate some of those articles may hurt people’s feelings, but the real hurt they do is to people’s sensitivities about received feminist ideology: the viewpoint that we should regard women as somehow better than men, to be pedestalised, and to be pursued on the terms that women say they want.
          Now contrast that with the many (radical) feminist websites out there that reflect the basic (typically hidden but barely under the surface) analysis that men are biologically wired to rape, that heterosexuality is an institution designed to systematically oppress women (above all through rape), that we live in a rape culture, that men need to be taught (in schools and college) not to rape, and that women should orient themselves more towards other women (both emotionally and in many instance of feminism sexually as well): in other words, ROK seeks to better help men live with women (on the basis of a realistic assessment of what both men and women are like) whereas feminism, the movement that is hegemonic in the west and which continues to advance like a virus within its institutions, seeks in every sense to damage heterosexual relations, orient women away from men, and otherwise set women and men at each others throats. Yet, we’re the haters, the misogynists, and the danger to women. No, feminism is the danger to women and society, and we’re trying to fix that.

      6. Funny or not just because the piece “offends” some people doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be published. Feminists have public rallies where they call for the extermination of all men in public buildings is this acceptable to you?
        What has you so wound up about a group of like minded men conregate here and in public when we like to discuss common ideas?

        1. I don’t think it shouldn’t be published, I was pointing out why there is an uproar about it. Roosh had quite a reputation as a misogynist and a sociopath before he published that article. No one here had addressed that.
          Where are these large groups of feminists calling for the extermination of men? I think those are wildly over exaggerated here. Oh,and I’m not wound up i
          don’t think. I’m sitting here, calmly typing. I may not be wanted here, but I just wanted to make a few points and try to understand some things. I hoped we could respectfully disagree.

      7. it might be
        and even if it wasnt it wouldnt warrant this kind of response

    3. Hey, Clark do you want my honest opinion on this whole imbroglio over the last few days. I’ve posted on and off here for a while, mainly about articles pertaining to politics and culture and I rarely read the articles about fat-shaming, dating, gaming etc as I consider them a little juvenile. I never, for example read the satirical article about rape even though I vaguely recalled someone, somewhere mention it. So, I obviously went to read it for the first time this week, and I know its prefaced as “satire” and he even mentions about his sister and not wanting her to be raped. However, you’ve got to realize that rape is a very sensitive and difficult issue to discuss in even a satirical manner as it’s an abhorrent crime, so to write about, a writer has to know how to write satire in such a way, generally through analogy or metaphor like Orwell’s Animals or Swift’s Gulliver when he urinates on the Lilliputians gate for example, that doesn’t directly state the issue in such a stark manner. I think his article fails to do this, and when people read it they get the wrong impression, besides, it’s one of the few topics that maybe should not be satirized unless you’re a really accomplished fiction writer, which Roosh is not (sorry, but that’s the truth).
      I think the whole episode was further compounded by all the cloak and dagger stuff to do with the meet up as ordinary people become naturally suspicious that what the press was stating about the group was actually true, especially with people meeting in car and public parks. Why could people have not just met in a public place like a bar or restaurant where they could chat and converse, rather than all the school boy code words which wouldn’t have been needed if it was done through e-mail which I suggested, but, was admonished by him for saying so. After this, I made up my mind that I won’t attend these meetings and besides my own ideas are more of a free-thinking centrist position anyway and not ALT/Far Right. However, it has high lighted the fact that there’s a hell of a lot of males who feel completely lost and disenfranchised from the worlds they inhabit in these times, and, I think society, media, and the government have to realize that they’ve a duty to address many of the underlying issues that underpin this movement, which perhaps they appreciated a bit more after this fiasco.

      1. I get what you’re saying.
        Roosh’s writing is not palatable to the masses.
        You may be right that his “satire” is too hardcore for people to process at first glance, especially combined with the secret-society style meetup. I like your realist approach.
        But that doesn’t excuse the establishment or the media for portraying Roosh as a “pro-rape advocate”. I would agree with your point of view a lot more if the media portrayed Roosh as an “extreme and unethical satirist” or “writer who is downplaying the seriousness of rape”, but that isn’t what happened. What happened was a witch-hunt based on exaggeration and hysteria. This kind of thing happens on the personal level or in the workplace, but as we’ve just seen it also happens on the societal level.
        And so what if Orwell wrote in a way that people can swallow? People watch these kinds of stories on television all the time, with the same message, and yet the mob behaviour went about without a hitch. In this sense Roosh’s success shouldn’t be measured based on how good of a “writer” he is, but on how far he’ll go to understand the world around him. And in my book he’s already gone much further than the vast majority of people.

        1. Yes, a good tactician should always make his opponent show how far he can go, where he is and what are his weapons.
          Roosh did it with this failed manouvre. However, we’ll only have the measure of his succes observing what follows. I am not sure this wasn’t a complete knock-out.

      2. Do you want to know a frank Truth? It’s a mediocre “satire” piece. Yes, you’re right … rape is a sensitive issue, but Roosh’s attempt at “satire” fails because he’s not a satirist. We’re not exactly reading Swift or H.L. Mencken here. The fiasco may have been avoided had he started the essay with: “In this thought experiment …” and proceeded as an intellectual “what if” argument. But as satire, the essay falls severely short of destination.

        1. Well, his biggest mistake was not recognizing the fact that he can’t write satire, besides, it’s really a genera and craft more suited to lampooning political and societal hypocrisy in the style of Swift, Wilde, Gogol or Rabelais rather than what he was attempting to do. Satire works by bringing at first an almost imperceptible smile to one’s face that grows larger with the turning of every page and that’s how you win people around to the absurdity of your opponent’s viewpoint.
          Going in straight even if couched as satire about an issue that doesn’t naturally elucidate humor among the majority of people was a serious error in judgment.

        2. Surely you realize this rape piece fits right in with the disrespect toward women demonstrated constantly on this site.

        3. It’s a men’s site. You’ll hear exactly the same thing and more in any pub on a Saturday night and it’s not necessarily disrespect towards women (besides women say disrespectful things about men, but hey that’s ok?) but rather it’s criticism about the standards, often double, that constitute so much of the self proclaimed “in your face” false superiority complex that defines so much of modern feminism.

        4. That’s so true. The views and opinions expressed on RoK are quite normal amongst ordinary men in the west.
          Ordinary men, not the emasculated hipsters (men in technicality only) that run media and academia today.

        5. It’s still a better satire than Starship Troopers.
          I’m a fan of Roosh, but I thought the article was in bad taste at the time of posting, and I also knew that most people would misunderstand it.

        6. That’s human life. Both sexes will always gripe, complain and laugh about the misdemeanors of the opposite sex, and, the silly sense of outrage we’ve witnessed I suspect from largely suburban millennials is akin to the awakening from the pupae stage in the life-cycle of a butterfly. This is how we are, and, I realize how shocking a revelation this must be to the pampered offspring of middle class suburbanites who’ve never stepped foot outside their own country to see how the rest of the world lives.

        7. Yes, well said … note to self: *never* attempt to satirize the following two subjects – rape, and the number one subject, pedophilia. The first will get you threats, the second one is so emotionally charged that people will, unsurprisingly, carry out the threats.

        8. Yes, I remember it was Channel 4 who did a program (Bullseye, not the Dart one!) a few years ago in which they tried to satirize the second one and it was done in really bad and woeful taste. You just can’t satirize certain issues for very good reasons.

        9. You seem to be an intelligent and thoughtful man. How do you defend most of the articles about women on here?. . You know: women are less intelligent than men. women shouldn’t be allowed to vote, men should be in charge of women’s important decisions, women can be sluts but men cannot, and on and on. Seriously.

        10. I don’t defend them as such even if I don’t always agree, and,there have been many times where I’ve made my disapproval known in the comments section. Sure, you get criticism, but, we’re all men (present company excluded of course!) here and ideas and insights get trashed out. It toughens you up and I think generally we all need to learn how to debate more robustly, without taking personal offence, in our societies.

        12. Exactly what I was thinking!
          We are mostly dealing with folks who’ve never been in a locker room, a bar, or a men’s club.
          Growing up, at family get togethers, the women would sit on the porch or in the house and have what was called a “hen session” (usually sexual, vulgar, gossip filled and sometimes mean). The men would stand in the yard and have a “bull session” (big fish stories, the last buck they got hunting, their new truck, some girls bra size).
          People in general have got to start socializing face-to-face in the same room more, we’re collectively turning into insular, paranoid drones completely dependent on the fakeness of social media. For the uninitiated that’s hard and frightening, but they’ve got to move past that hurdle to ever be whole.

        13. Respect is an “entity” or concept that is *earned* and not automatically afforded. Anyone who deliberately spreads toxic ideas and tries to destroy the foundations of a society needs to be called out, and no considerations ought to be given to their “feelings” and their dignity.
          The alleged “disrespect” around here is definitely *not* toward women. It is, however, undeniably and most definitely aimed toward a vocal, noxious, and poisonous sub-set of women, but not “capital-W” Women. The psychopathic, though influential, sub-group of women who, through their collaborative schemings, cause immense grief and conflict for everyone *must* be called out, and confronted head-on.

        14. No, SJWs decided to hate him, then they looked over his 10k blog posts with a microscope to find anything they didn’t like. I doubt anyone’s life would survive that kind of scrutiny. Then they have to decide on the lie they want to repeat loud enough and long enough until it is true.

        17. We’ve different interests anyway as men and women, and men will complain about women talking about certain things because they’re boring and women when men talk about sport.
          It’s wrong-headed and simplistic to think that there’s always a common narrative between the sexes, there’s not- and that’s a good thing- it what makes us different and we should celebrate this diversity and difference. The sexes don’t want to be homogenized into some type of engineered social construct like in Soviet Russia where people were lumped together into the sexless category of worker or bourgeois . Rational people rightfully resent this type of crude collectivism and the ghost of this “communist disorder” lives on in the millennial lunatic left who’ve no life experiences or insights about the sheer grimness of Soviet life or likewise about the awful and brutal values that exist in many middle eastern countries, where human rights simply do not exist in any meaningful way.
          To paraphrase Karl Popper once more I believe that the lunatic fringe of the new left represent a real threat to the idea of a free and open and democratic society. What makes them so intractable is precisely their lack of knowledge and life experiences about the real world and recent history. It’s deeply sad that they’re ruining our time honored customs, traditions and values, history will judge them harshly.

        20. @Lerellen-excuse me, but I am the best judge of what I realize. Furthermore, the piece in question was a satire nothing more. Yes, it does involve issues involving the interaction of men and women. Of course it does, that is what this site is mainly about.

      3. Speaking of Jonathan Swift, I take it you’ve never read “A Modest Proposal”. Seemed a little stark to me, but readers still got it. Or were they smarter then?

        1. Ah, a very different age with a very different sensibility…but sometimes to be heard you have to shockingly provoke your readership into indignant rage at the indifference of the status quo and that’s what the “Mad Dean” did very successfully.

        2. Readers were more informed then.
          I recently read Amusing Ourselves to Death by Neil Postman. In it he talks about the Lincoln-Douglas debates. He specifically pointed out all of the different topics and issues of the day that the average citizen of the day would have typically know about in order to follow the discussion and that it was not unusual for the average citizen to be so well versed in current issues.
          It is more incredible when one considers that telegraph was just coming into use a few decades prior, there was no telephone or television, and the trans Atlantic cable was just being completed in 1858.
          Today it is something of a miracle if they know 10% of what people knew about current issues.
          The problem is that many people today just don’t care or bother to follow events.

        3. That book has been on my list for years.. Haven’t gotten around to reading it yet. I figured the evil stuff has accelerated so much since he wrote that, that it’s no longer very relevant!
          Even stories the media crammed down your throat like Edward Snowden, people can’t recall after a few months. John Oliver did a story on him, went out to NYC and asked all these people who he was and almost no one knew. Remember, he was the *distraction* from the subject of spying and a police state–change the subject to Snowden and where he lives and that he has a stripper girlfriend. And they don’t even remember that!!

        5. We have entertainment today and don’t have to know about world events. The Jew elite keep us pacified with bread and circuses so we don’t revolt.

        6. Of course, there were some differences in who was eligible to vote then…
          Also, technology doesn’t make people smarter; rather the opposite in most cases. Sure, it gives them the opportunity to access a vast quantity of information, but how many actually take advantage of that rather than spending hours in front of the idiot box (or the internet equivalent)? For the vast majority of people, most of the technology they interact with on a daily basis is no different than magic.
          Following current events is useful up to a point, but takes work to avoid the distortions of the lugenpresse. I find the controlled media useful mostly in a meta sense– Why are they pushing that story? With that slant? Why is this story being buried/ not going national/ allowed to die?
          It’s often more useful to read old books than to pay too much attention to the current narrative. Not just the acknowledged classics, but reading anything from the losing side some of the great social/ political/ military conflicts of the last century or two can be very useful in understanding where, and just how far, we went wrong.
          One benefit of technology: archive.org is up to 8.7M or so texts. Sure, a lot of it is crap, but 8.7M– Damn, I remember card catalogs. Then there’s gutenberg, google books…

      4. Agree I think
        It would have been better to run with a troll article. Obviousely it’s highly provocative in nature. No one advocates rape and insane to propose that anyone holds such a position. But the media can package the narrative.

      5. Eating babies was no doubt a sensitve issue during the Irish famine when swift wrote his piece but it was a hit. At least the piece here on the website drew attention to us and will drive members into the group. If the mass of the public guided by their media puppet masters is “outraged” all the better.
        It’s a means to an end..

    4. Very possible even highly probable, nothing else explains their willingness to be led around by the nose without doing any fact-checking themselves.
      My folks talked about it with me this morning on the phone, they’d heard the report on their local news. Both parents have now read the How to Stop Rape article. My mother was particularly incensed that these groups were using lies about rape to form virtual lynch mobs against men meeting up in public. And about publishing Roosh’s mom’s address.
      But then she’s been an English and History teacher for thirty years and married a Marine.

      1. I spoke to my mom about it this afternoon actually just to get a reaction from someone, and she couldn’t get over the idea that “pro-rape attitudes” must be stopped. I was totally clear with what I was saying, but it’s such a sensitive knee-jerk reaction that I think it just goes right over most peoples’ heads.
        My mom is pretty red-pill about a lot of things but she just couldn’t think about this matter objectively. She didn’t get upset or anything, but her immediate reaction was clear.

        1. Have her read the article. My folks were explaining the ROK side of it to me (so I realize I am likely a lucky special case). Maybe try it by editing the piece replacing rape with underage drinking, or something, and alterations to fit. That would at least show if it is just a knee-jerk reaction to the topic.
          Mostly I am disheartened, I really believed that by and large people would choose to be better than this. The whole idea that by default we are good at heart. Now I think we are idiotic by default and need to make the choice not to remain that way during our lives, reaffirming the need for self-improvement, echoed here, more than ever.
          I am now completely convinced this is a battle for individualism, independence, liberty, and morality/values against relativism, conformity, totalitarianism, and subjugation.

        2. “Maybe try it by editing the piece replacing rape with underage drinking” — Drug Legalization and prostitution were my take aways (mind you I support both) , I saw it as a play on the “If we stop punishing it the crime will go away” thinking.

        3. But that’s all women….their go to is always the feelings, first.
          Women will often use the phrase that they “felt raped” but did anyone actually rape them? No. It could have been something simple as a guy checking them out that they didn’t find attractive (eye rape?). But, there you have it. Women will use the word for any uncomfortable position that they are in at the time.

        4. That’s bullshit, and that’s an example of why so many women hate this site. “All women’ don’t feel anything, and we don’t all feel raped. I’ve never in my life felt that way, an that’s a ridiculous thing to say.
          This could be a wake up call for you. How do you enjoy being generalized about in a negative way? Right? We don’t either.

        5. He didn’t say all women “feel raped”. But you felt that he said that, so you go with your feelings, not facts.
          That is why so many women hate this site, we aren’t here to validate women’s feelings.

        6. Yeah, I stopped by my meeting spot tonight, even though it was cancelled I thought maybe the host would still show up. Police car waiting around the corner, about a dozen protestors, went inside and people were talking about it. Local media did an online story on the “pro rape group” with over 100 comments.
          This is in a small town where I would have been shocked if 5 people had showed up to the meetup. Insane reaction to a cancelled event. But here’s the thing: I guarantee 100% of the people there think we are rapists. So yeah it’s very frustrating. I don’t know how a rational person can believe there is a group wanting to legalize rape, evidence or not, but that’s the truth.
          More than anything, it makes me feel that the west is absolutely 100% over, dead, caput. The 1920s Germans were far more rational, and they let a Hitler come to power. If someone truly evil ever wants to take control of America, the people will support him fully as long as he manipulates carefully.

        7. Even if the meetings weren’t cancelled and the event was a smashing success, I think the real tragedy here was realizing how sinister the media and its frothing public really are.
          This whole thing has made me completely distrustful of the msm. Even more skeptical than I was before. An illuminating experience to be on the receiving end of the public’s mindless id.

        8. Agreed. That, and all the wasted and misplaced energy. Saturday nights a lot of drugs and crime goes on (I don’t like the drug war, but gangs selling drugs are a problem). There was probably a murder in my city tonight. And one of the cops on duty was posted to look out for the ROK group. I live in a city with a LOT of problems and over a dozen people organized and got together to… take pictures of guys sharing a beer together? Meanwhile, there are so many real problems in my town that these SJWs ignore. I’m sorry but a society that is this brainwashed, and I live in one of the most conservative areas of the USA, I just can’t imagine how things will be here in a decade. I truly can’t.
          Someone here posted they won’t believe the media if they so much as report that someone’s cat is missing. I can’t disagree.

        9. Your mother is the product of years of indoctrination. It is a sub-conscious learned response. The blue pill has been fed to her since the womb.
          This explains much of the false articles, and lack of fact check. However, it was needed. Soon, people’s heads will cool, and they will look at it again.
          Feminists will have much explaining to do.

        10. ditto. i’ve been reading up and watching videos on martin shrkeli a lot lately, the pharma CEO who supposedly jacked up the price of AIDS medication for greater profit while letting patients die. as near as i can tell, the truth is about 100% different from how the MSM presented it, and he’s actually a very decent, even heroic figure. i’ve been hoping to see him discussed more here, and on roosh’s forums.

        11. They voted Hitler in because they were more rational than us. The only objectively wrong thing he did was lose the war.

        13. More likely it will be forgotten. SJWs (which the general population are to varying degrees, mothers of RoK readers included) don’t think about things like this, they react and move on.

        14. I think Roosh failed to appreciate how much his even joking about being a muslim stopped the beast in Canada. International meetup day needs to be called something, like “Koran discussion day”. Let the idiot press have to explain to their viewers that no its actually not about the Koran, its really about rape.

        15. That’s a pity. I’ve found older women are usually more sensible when it comes to the whole rape hysteria.
          The thing is, I understand (and most men understand) that women often feel vulnerable and fearful of sexual assault. Yet women need to understand that men are equally fearful of being falsely accused of rape or other sexual offenses. It’s a two-way street. We cannot simply allow false claims of rape or alleged support for rape to be bandied about willy nilly.

        16. Exactly, whether beautiful swan or an obese land whale “piss off!” (insert English accent here) is our general mantra. We are unconcerned with your feelings or opinions.

        18. The winner decides what is right and wrong. Killing the jews would have been hailed as a heroic accomplishment of historic proportions if they had won.

        19. You went for the “obvious”.
          What about the socialist and revolutionary aspect of the movement (I know it was somehow curbed by the removal or Strasserian influence, but not completely)? Nat-Socs were clearly against “Reaktion” as they were against the Reds. That meant the destruction of the very Society that had created them. They finished off the aristocracy and intellectual elites (beyond the jews), they fiercely attacked ideas like faith, family and tradition. Lebensborn were promoting a future parentless brainwashed generation. Martin Bormann went to the point of considering “Fraktur” jewish and this is a measure of how much Germany would no longer be Germany, if they kept the power (what came after was even worse, ok, noone is challenging that).
          An extreme-right movement without “right” (respect for tradition/conservatism) is soon a hollow movement. Hollow movements generate desperate actions.

        20. Don’t know much about that. The only thing that really concerns me is survival. How it is done is a very secondary thing.

        21. Yes, it is turning more and more into that. But back then, in the 20th century, people were discussing more complex achievments. New ideologies which meant entirely new lifestyles. Nat Soc’ism is more about that than the whole holoca ust circus and WW2. Sadly, when portrayed by their enemies, only that is taken into acccount.

        22. Even I just assumed that guy must be a scumbag.
          But at this point I wouldn’t be surprised if he was really one of the good guys.

        23. Opinions about roosh and this site drove this whole furcuncle. You can’t have it both ways. I believe you guys have the right to believe and publish whatever you please.

        24. You’re right. I’m glad you pointed out that both sexes are fearful., it’s usually one side against the other. Both sexes have valid points.

        25. this interview is a good place to start. aside from his plausible explanation for the drug price hike, he essentially puts on a frame control clinic and converts what are initially very hostile interviewers.

        26. I don’t know where you get this from, if anything the national socialists were radical traditionalists that wanted to get back to pre-Christian folkways. They were aware that such a change would be very difficult as Christianity had rusted itself in to Europe and most just didn’t care outside intellectual circles and generally left the churches alone so long as they stayed out of politics.
          Lebensborn was a way of saving some good male DNA which was being lost by the millions and stabilise the population.
          Polygamy would have made a lot of sense given the millions of dead German soldiers but only for male survivors. This gave some of those soldiers who were shedding the lives hope that they had passed on the blood of their fathers.
          It shows that the National Socialists were able to think radically and flexibly. Men and women volunteered for this and with time the program might have become successful. Many of these women would have ended up windows, unmarried or childless anyway.
          Certainly makes more sense than 72 virgins, the virtual award for Jihaadis that have sacrificed themselves.

        27. “This explains much of the false articles, and lack of fact check.
          However, it was needed. Soon, people’s heads will cool, and they will look at it again.
          Feminists will have much explaining to do.”
          Not the slightest chance of this scenario happening.
          Liberal, emotional, and/or low-IQ people’s heads don’t cool and suddenly see the truth. And feminists will never explain a fucking thing except how women are victims and white, straight men are the bane of the world.

        28. ” If someone truly evil ever wants to take control of America, the people will support him fully as long as he manipulates carefully.”
          Actually, certain prophecies predict exactly such a scenario.

        30. he is. he claims the allegations are baseless and politically motivated and that he will prevail. he was hauled in to testify before congress recently, pleaded the fifth on all questions, and sent out a tweet calling congress “imbeciles” after the hearing. supposedly, one of the congresswomen threatened to have him brought up on contempt charges until shkreli’s lawyer reminded her that it’s actually not illegal to insult congress (1st amendment and all).
          also, he turned down requests for an interview after the hearing from fox, msnbc, cnn, etc. and granted the interview to his high school newspaper.
          i just love the guy more the more i learn about him.

        31. regardless of what you think of hitler, he was a staggeringly terrible military commander. seems like there are so many things germany could have done to defeat the USSR, all of which didn’t happen because of hiter’s megalomaniacal, delusional nature.

        32. What I understood from the interview is that his jacked up prices only apply to those who can afford private health insurance. For the really poor it’s basically free.
          If that’s true, then this is another example of the media giving out a completely false impression. If that is also true, than the media is pretty much nothing more than mob entertainment.

        33. Yes, it really gives you a sense that they’re mainly in it to generate click bait. Then the politicians smell blood (i.e. easy votes) and haul him before congress where he makes them look silly. Cool stuff.

        34. @Clark Ken-A thought-Roosh V’s slander piece and this suggest that Orwell was describing this when there was the “15 minutes of hate” ceremony. Vent all your anger on a convenient scapegoat and not the real villain-the main stream politicians, media and SJWs…

        35. Brilliant. Or make up some victim group not currently being ‘included’ in the LGBTQWAIQ (or whatever) discussion.

        37. It IS your second language. Alright, lesson one: Momy is actually spelt Mommy. And because the boy is Mommy’s you need a ‘s at the end of Mommy. So it should read, “Mommy’s boy.” Next lesson I’m going to teach you how to say, “Fuck the Koran” in 5 different languages.

        40. Is ur mom a man? hahaha fuckin freaks ya al the same in west shit on piss on u take u land u money u women dupm ya all WE HAVE ALREADY TAKEN YOU!

        42. Got any muhammad porn that you wank to? I heard about that, never seen it. Curious. Show us.

        43. If muhammad came up to you and was, like, “Hey Tawhid, you got a cute kid, mind if I rape him/her?” What would you say? And, yes, this is a loyalty test.

        44. Yeah, you very likely described the 45% of the population I was not talking about. Cheers.

        45. Yeah, you ISIS worshipers sure do love fucking other people’s women! Then their camels, goats, and children. Before sacrificing them like cattle. Good work.
          Probably why you assholes fly your dumb asses to Raqqa to be gang banged up the ass as training on how to “properly assault a town of hapless villagers”. Please ensure that when you strap a bomb vest, you blow up your own one story, ISIS funded, outhouse in shitcanistan you call home. Between the superiors who send you fools to die for them practicing on your assholes, and your living in squalor, you will be perfect for martyrdom in your own personal afterlife of 72 male virgins.
          May they be well hung. And may Allah run out of virgins.

        46. You may take our worthless women, you may take our dumb ass politicians (cough, cough, Obama, cough, cough), but you obviously will never take our language.
          😀

        47. When he replies, make sure you tell him to explain how it is that the prophet, may he live forever, came to smoke the drugs that stated somehow that Jesus/Isa, claimed he was a muslim 600 years after his death. And why it is his closest followers went to the ends of the earth claiming he was the son of God?
          I’m sure you will be able to read between his “I’ll take your brother’s cock in my face!” retort lines for some “inspired answer.”
          I hope that when he blows himself up, he’s mangled enough to see his own asshole.

        48. I bet he loves him some Muhammad. His local African terrorist buddy named Muahmmad. You know how those Middle Eastern “warriors” get by when they go through a dry spell of raping defenseless women and children. They start sleeping with each other.

        49. The problem is that men have been constantly told that they need to be more understanding and sympathetic to issues that affect women. Yet there is no reciprocal obligation on women to be understanding and sympathetic to issues that affect men.
          To me this is symptomatic of modern society and identity group politics more generally. There are certain groups that are more or less taught that they must be selfless in looking out for the interests of others first. Yet other groups are encouraged to be as self-interested as possible. It is seen as pathological and evil for men to start organizing and looking out for their group interests. Yet it is considered perfectly normal and healthy for women to do the same.

        50. Not really.
          Germany is the size of Arizona, after all.
          Dunkirk might’ve been the turning point. Had Hitler not let them go as an olive branch, but the US hadn’t yet entered the war. Maybe made that pact with England/US contingent upon release of the 300k Brit troops at Dunkirk.
          The Serb uprising caused the Delay of Barbarossa, into the winter time, and that was a crucial moment, had no bearing on Hitler whatsoever.

    6. It’s not really about understanding, young women enjoy moral outrage as a means of social leverage
      This is basically true of all social justice issues – upon closer examination there’s always more smoke than fire

      1. I’m sure you mean ‘some’ young women riight? You wouldn’t want to disparage a group of people without knowing all of them, would you
        ?

        2. All women are fearful. That includes my own mother and all women I know. There is always something they are afraid of, spiders, guns, etc, etc.
          All women are genetically deficient in the “Y” chromosome.

        5. The men i have known have more afraid of insects and reptiles than the women. Many men won’t admit their fears. though.

        7. Those are boys who were brought up by their whore single moms!
          You know they never had a male role model and picked up all the bad habits and fears from their useless moms.

        8. Those fearful “men” were brought up by single moms and feminists. They have become feminized. A real man is the head of the household, protects his wife and children and leads his family to a better life and success.

      2. Another batch of new profiles. Welcome to the lynching. “Not my circus; not my monkeys.” Point being, I may reply but it doesn’t necessarily I am going to buy into it. It takes a little more logic and rationality that what I’m hearing from lerellen or Niagara or the myriad other ten comment Disqus members. Can I get a “meh”?

    7. It’s not over-the-top, in-your-face, bleeding-obvious satire, but instead deadpan and subtle. The best kind of satire! But it just doesn’t seem to register as satire to most people unless it’s done completely outrageously with explosions and bright colours.
      Yet, I have noticed even intelligent people have been taken in by this. One blogger I read even mentioned that he believed on shouldn’t take Roosh seriously and that they weren’t really his beliefs, but that didn’t stop him from just feeding the paranoia, instead of checking it out for himself. I guess that’s okay as long as they are ideological enemies.

    8. Why do you think the West is in the situation it is in and has been for decades? The masses don’t think for themselves and are too lazy to do any researching themselves. A certain tribe of people, the Jews, realized this fundamental flaw in us and exploited it for all it was worth. We live in a civilization that has had it’s mores and values spoonfed to them since day one and the media and schools have been the ones doing the spoonfeeding. Diversity, good. Multikult, good. Out of Africa, good. Feminism, good. Immigration, good. Guns, bad. Men, bad. White men, bad.
      The programming of the Marxists has worked beyond their wildest dreams and we fell for it hook line and sinker. Most goyim that watch or read the news gulp down every sentence as truth and won’t question a single word! So don’t be surprised that the sheep follow the shepherd when he recites his tune, it’s the only thing they know how to do. They are drones that serve the system while having their thinking done for them, all without questioning a single word.

    9. I would say likely the IQ portion. However, in regards to muslim zealots, where are they when a real power comes in an beats them? Like Sadam Hussein, or the Iranian/Saudi mullahs?
      Running. Even Bin Laden claimed to attack many lambs instead of the US military lion.
      Did they attack muslim leaders who would slaughter them like sheep with their families?
      No. They’re cowards. I bet the big ugly white robed protester would not look so bold if a group of Australian males came up and started beating the shit out of him in front of his friends. Then paper cut his asshole with that cardboard before leaving him laughing like madman.
      Back in 2005, the Libyan refugees were acting similar. Until 400+ Aussies showed up to their neighborhood, and started flipping cars, starting fires and beating the shit out of muslims. The following day, their younger leaders, the Libyans, were wearing blue T-shirts claiming “WE LOVE AUSTRALIANS!” and shaking hands. I’m not advocating for violence. But strength gains respect. These muslims very own teachings declare to lie in wait while the target is strong, and do everything to undermine it. Then, when weak, march in “triumphantly” and rape and pillage like you always knew “Allah’s army” was going to win.
      The reason they act so bold is because they have no reason to fear the population they suspect they are replacing. These SJW types are predicted, by terrorist Islamists, to be “lambs” ripe for raping and slaughter. And Jizhya tax!
      If the country was nothing but lions, they would not even be there. These pretentious rapists in waiting realize the west is weak. And are doing their demographic duty to undermine it.

      1. Exactly what happened with Persia (Iran today).
        A proud history, but we screwed up by underestimating the islamic invaders.
        It took the invaders 400 years to change Iran’s religion from Zoroastrianism to islam. It was a long process, but in the end, they prevailed.
        But with the way Europe is opening itself to these ”refugees”, it probably won’t take more than just 50 years for Europe’s process to be complete.
        When will be the turning point?

      2. These muslims very own teachings declare to lie in wait while the target is strong, and do everything to undermine it. Then, when weak, march in “triumphantly” and rape and pillage
        Nowhere in Islamic teachings is any of what you wrote in that quote encouraged.

        1. I don’t know the surahs, or the hadith numbers. But yes, Islam does encourage the undermining of a potential enemy until they can be taken and conquered.

      2. Question for you Morty. Does evil exist, and if so can it be measured? The answer is yes, you just have to be a genius. Evil is a deficient amygdala.

    11. It’s very possible. But beyond general intelligence, we simply have better developed brains. Bigger amygdala, smaller ACC. We accept that reality is how it is, while most people pretend it is whatever they want it to be. Roosh is a rapist because the media says so. No evidence needed.

    12. “Pro-rape group meeting” gets more views and sells more newspapers than “Guys meeting, drinking beer and talking about chicks and sports”.

    13. In the last 30 years schools have been teaching a style of reading called deconstructionism (Not that they openly say that or even know the word). Instead of asking what does the author mean by what is written, they ask what does this mean to me. How does it make you feel, is taught as a valid way of reading for content. We are seeing the result of that foolishness. So many people who freaked out over all this were unable to understand what Roosh was saying. They only knew that they felt like it was pro rape. And their feelings are all that matter.

    14. Yeah, most of the posters here have above avg IQ. Sometimes the comments are better than the articles.
      Here’s what I vaguely remember regarding IQ ranges:
      above average: approx 7%
      exceptional: 4.5%
      genius: 0.5%
      I think Bernay’s came to the conclusion less than 10% of people are capable of critical thinking. Toss in that old Forney article on amygdalae hijacking, and do you honestly think you are ever gonna change most peoples’ ways of “thinking”?
      Me, I just treat this site like a virtual bar, crack some jokes, talk some shit, argue ever now and then

    15. These girls are at best of average intelligence, which is sufficient to get into university these days. (Significantly below average intelligence is sufficient to get into university these days)
      They take their news from Newspapers such as “The Guardian” and “the Sydney Morning Herald” which commit bare faced lies. The Guardian called “Roosh” an “apparent rape advocate” which is libel.
      This is what is called the “Controlled Media”.
      The girls are too stupid to form their opinions around facts that they have checked themselves.
      I would imagine that if what is good for the goose is good for the gander and so these females social media accounts should be shut down for uttering menaces (a crime in Australia)

    17. May be possible, but what is deadly sure is that they have lower testosterone levels since U LACK BALLZ!!! Losers

        2. OK. You mixed up your tenses. And that made your insult not an insult at all. It was just a jumble. You said “THEY” have lower testosterone (which is what we say, since lower testosterone means less manly), so how do WE lack balls if THEY lack testosterone? It makes no sense at all. Try again.

    18. I believe it’s mainly because they always scew the first comments, then the sheep follow. For instance, try typing a logical response to an article in the newspaper and see how often you are silenced. Now go look at the top comments.
      Way, way more people feel like us than they will let on publicly. Hell, I started a new job and have been red pill as fuck. When they ask me what I am doing on the weekend, I reply, “Going out, picking up some chicks. More the merrier.” And I’m renowned for being un-pc (they joke how I’m a Nazi). And no one’s firing me any time soon, they love my work. And that’s how it should be.

    19. of course your IQ assumption is true. Critics of ROK are somewhere in the 80-90 range on the scale, about equal to our Shiny Pony PM here in Canada. why expect them to read a well constructed sentence when they cannot understand it even when they get to the period at the end.

      1. It’s a pretentious comment but I would actually be interested in taking a sample of us vs. a sample of the general population and do a comparison.
        I really wouldn’t be surprised…
        Comparing a sample of the ROK community vs. a sample of SJWs is a no-brainer though at this point… pun intended.

    20. I think they understand full well that it is satire. They just hate our opinions, even though much worse comes from Islamic groups like the one mentioned above. But that is the key factor, we don’t fit the victim narrative.

  28. “They know we will not respond with violence”. That is the key, and understanding this allows us to make sense of what has happened. Feminist cowardice means that any criticism of Islam is off limits. After all, REAL violence and REAL misogynists are terrifying. As we all know, women respect strong, confident men who stick to their word and demonstrate power. Many islamists tick those boxes. Do we?

    1. “After all, REAL violence and REAL misogynists are terrifying. As we all know, women respect strong, confident men who stick to their word and demonstrate power. Many islamists tick those boxes. Do we?”
      You nailed it brother. They wont mess with them because they know they will be punched around or worse. They talk dirty because they know, we will not respond with violence.

    2. Great comment. They know we are weak and scattered.
      Perhaps that was an element of the outrage too, that people who read this site might actually begin networking IRL and thus start becoming not so weak and scattered.
      Of course, even if we did achieve that, we wouldn’t be threatening violence or rape to non-believers (There is no God but Allah and Roosh was his prophet, peace be upon him!).
      I certainly admit I don’t tick those boxes. I am not a strong, confident man. But thanks to sites like this, I no longer make excuses for it, and am learning to be stronger and more confident.
      Does self-improvement and taking responsibility for one’s position in life really terrify the harpies that much? Does that make us rapists and misogynists? Red Pill never taught me to hate woman, but to learn about them and about myself.

  29. Liberal governments: “Let all theses mobs of Muslim ‘refugees’ into the country so they can rape our women, take our tax revenue, take jobs away from our blue collar men, and give us no constructive benefits.”
    Liberal governments: “Oh, no, we can’t let these white heterosexual men gather into a group. Everyone knows that white men are the only people capable of rape and evil. White men are the face of evil and if they gather together even in small groups they will destroy all women.”

    1. The ridiculous thing too, is that we’re not even exclusively white. The meet-up was planned all across the world in a huge number of countries for any men who desired to come.

    2. The hypocrisy is intentional
      Social justice is not about standards, it’s about resenting power structures

      1. Good news. Listen up. Guangdong, a province within the Pearl River Union, achieved an 8% growth rate last year, far superior to the national average. Well done, party secretary Hu Chunhua; you’ve done well. Meanwhile, Zhejiang, a province within the Yangtze People’s Republic, achieved a similar growth rate of 8%, tying for second. In first place, Chongqing, also in the Yangtze People’s Republic, achieved the inestimable growth rate of 11%. Congratulations, party secretary Sun for this outstanding achievement. You’ve done far better than any of the other provinces in East Asia.
        Meanwhile, the decrepit and decaying industries within the polluted provinces of the Yellow River Federation continue to drain investment capital from the healthy industries within the Pearl River Union and the equally rich Yangtze People’s Republic. Why do you let this go on? Is it not time to unknot your political ties to Beijing before the entire country crumbles into the Great CPC Depression of 2016? When one considers that President Xi continues to bolster useless and loss-making industries against all sense and sensibility, you have to realize that it is your wealth that is being robbed by the thieves in the CPC.
        Thus begins the end of the PRC, with theater commands being the foundation of these new countries being born out of the defunct PRC. Support party secretary Hu and party secretary Sun who will ensure that the Yangtze People’s Republic and the Pearl River Union do not follow the rest of China down the toilet…

  32. This manages to slip under the leftist radar though. The left is enabling woman being raped, molested, and violently assaulted en masse, then they try to demonize men who protest the invasion of the West by Iron Age savages who enter their lands with the intention of raping them.

    “Krisztina Morvai, Non-Attached Member of the European Parliament and of the FEMM Committee, broke the ice and pointed out that this matter had to be dealt with and called this lack of concern of the committee “an absolute betrayal of European women”. The answer was given by Mary Honeyball, the (socialist) rapporteur of the report on the situation of women refugees and asylum seekers in the EU: Morvai is racist and this is what motivates her by raising this issue.”

    1. I read the comments on the YouTube video you posted. Here’s one of my favorites:
      “Who ever thinks, that in a Europe run by Capitalist-marxism, in a Europe
      that is being daily invaded by Afroasians and will be a minority of whites within a decade, in a Europe in which the establishment chases and runs down every white person who dare to stand up against the anihilation of its race and nation, being called a “Racist” is actually a bad thing, is PART OF THE PROBLEM. WEAR THE TITLE “RACIST” WITH PRIDE , ADVERTISE THE FACT , BE PROUD OF YOUR RACIAL CONSCIENCE.”

      1. When I saw “Afroasians ” I imagined a horde of Chinese pimps with afros zerg-rushing Europe.

      2. Heh. Some of us Asians are more highly educated and red pill than the shills currently in Europe and America who rain rape and death threats on ROK. Red pill Asians would be a boon compared to lily livered keyboard warriors who threaten to rape and kill guys just for meeting together.

        1. Good points.
          I especially admire the nationalism of the Japanese people, and give them props for allying with the National Socialists in WW2.

  34. None of what you posted constitutes explicit and immediate threats to Roosh since a visit to Australia/NZ was not in his (public) plans. If Roosh can’t take some trash talk heat, maybe he should turn off the computer.

    1. Threats of violence and physical harm are actually illegal in many countries.
      And a lot of that is often reiterated by those opposing Roosh opinions.

      1. There. Are. No. Threats. Of. Violence. Trash talk only. Please, point me to a single *unconditional* threat of violence that is geographically relevant and is not lumped together with what obviously makes it a non-threat.

        2. Aww…aren’t you a cute poster. You see posts in the articles threatening death and violence. There were no threats of death and violence you say?
          I had a comment from an Amy Marie I believe? Exact words…..”Was thinking more like you being the victim of a violent attack then dying.” Sent around 5:26 am Feb 4. The beauty of threats and the internet, once the data is received, even if you delete your account like an Amy Marie or make your comments private like some other posters the original recipient always has the data.
          But tell me more how you speak for your group of bigots and how they are not violent people who merely dislike rapists.

        3. Inciting others to commit violence is also illegal.
          If you can read english, there’s many examples in the post above.
          And they are illegal and should be reported to police.

        4. “Inciting” others to rape (as in Roosh responding to “What to do if a girl doesn’t let me raw-dog her” with “Rape”) is also illegal. Lets not confuse legalese with reality.

        5. You must have trouble with reading comprehension. Please copy a specific *threat* in plain text – or highlight it in the picture. I see no threats of violence in your image – only an extremely vaguely menacing dox.

        6. I see trash talk that includes wishes of death and violence – not threats of it. If you can’t post an exact threat that Roosh received directly, GTFO. I have no dog in this fight.

        7. Convincing and persuasion is not illegal.
          Violence, Threats of violence and inciting violence is.
          Below is an example of inciting violent behavior.

        8. And this. There is no context, no thought exercise, just straight out calling and inciting violence.

        10. Here’s another one. There is no context, no thought exercise, just straight out calling and inciting violence.

        11. Simply asking hypothetical questions/making thoughts experiments is in the style of Roosh’s own article “How to stop rape” is not an example of “incitement”. Telling somebody “Rape” is (but I discount this particular single instance because to me it’s locker room talk – but it adds to the overall picture of Roosh who has dabbled in the the gray area many times and crossed the line at least few times).

        12. You can discount it all you like, threats is violence and inciting others to perform violent acts is illegal.
          And the SJWs are the loudest campaigners in favor of it.

        13. You are an idiot. I see no *threats* of violence. I have no dog in this fight, but I want this talk of “threats” to be backed up. As of now, Roosh is a drama queen asking a (female) police officer for protection.

        14. Are you really an idiot? We are talking about Roosh in February 2016 – not some random chat in December 2015. Separately, while I don’t approve of “kill all men”, when spewed on-line, it’s more of a crazy-person rant than “inciting violence”.

        15. Stop arguing like a stubborn and immature teenager. You clearly have no idea what constitutes a threat in a legal sense. Forget this case. Just focus on the actual declarations made in those emails: those are called threats. Yes, threats. As I said, you obviously have no legal training, and are only making a fool of yourself by repeating a moot point.
          Imagine if someone kept arguing that differential geometry is not “real” math. It’s downright silly, and not even worth engaging such a person.

        16. Lucas, the Apache Death Snail Unabashed 3 days ago
          For real tho. Athens or Atlanta? Tell me which one you gonna be at and a short description of yourself.I go to UGA and i got time to waste and hands to give out to punk ass bitches.
          Roosh was not the only one receiving death threats. So to prove to you a death threat I must have the statement from them and some admission that they intend to proceed with an action. Thank goodness you aren’t in law enforcement as I imagine the burden of proof would be on the victim.
          And it was trash talk that had said person delete the comment and their account? Tell me more Mr. Strawman about my lies and delusions!

        17. Is this the best you could come up with? LOL. A polite request to give him your location/description to face you in a (implied one-to-one) hand-to-hand combat is now a threat of violence? I’m dying over here.

        18. No this is…
          For a threat to be a crime, it must be a threat to do physical harm. Threats to murder or cause serious injury to a person are specific enough to be the basis of a crime. Threats to divorce, end a friendship or make trouble for someone are either not physical or not specific enough to constitute a crime. California Penal Code Section 422, like many similar state laws, provides that for a threat to constitute a crime it must be a threat to commit homicide or cause serious physical injury.
          Now beat it you illiterate troll. It is clearly time to let whomever is supposed to be using your computer next, go on ahead. Thankfully with all of your clear denials of what assault, any number of people will now know they can assault you or worse as clearly you will have no definition as to what is happening to you.
          A polite request to give him your location…..Oh Man!!! You should do stand up comedy. Sitting down!! Don’t want you to hurt yourself!

        19. Saw your edit to the previous post: we were discussing Roosh based on what he posted – and I assumed he picked the worst. To me none of it looks like “threats” and it seems like police is of the same opinion – but it’s not very relevant.
          I have zero information about other people’s mail-boxes as I’m not trolling these forums 24/7. I saw some intense talk on facebook, but it wasn’t directed into anybody’s mail-box and never crossed the line of being a direct, credible threat. Unlike you, I can differentiate between an assault, a credible threat to assault, a threat to assault, and trash talk.

        20. Give it up. This clown is a white knight mangina. If those threatening posts were directed towards a female, he’ll say it’s a threat. But since it was directed towards Roosh (a man), then it was only trash talk.

        21. Pure sophistry. So Roosh actually advocates rape, but these aren’t real threats?
          You’re probably right that these posters wouldn’t actually follow up on their threats and they’re actually just shit-talking, but do you see the double standards?

        22. Where did I say that Roosh advocates rape? Committed in the past and indirectly encouraged others – yes. Advocated for a legal change? No. That blog-post was satire, you, dummy.

        23. Do you really believe he commits and encourages others to commit rape? Don’t you think he would have been charged long ago if that were the case?

        24. Also, I don’t claim that YOU ever said he advocates rape, but obviously a huge number of people take the “pro-rape” and “wants to legalise rape” bylines at face value. Don’t make it all about you.
          I’ll reiterate: Why are these claims taken at face value concerning Roosh, but not concerning those who threaten him?

        25. Because I did not see any direct, stand alone threats – “I know where you live and I am coming to kill you”. There is nothing to even take at face value if you take any of the context into account. Please, paste a single paragraph (not a sentence) that presents the WORST threat Roosh received and include the link. If I see a direct threat (not a wish of death upon Roosh), I’ll change my mind – especially if the threat sounds credible (but don’t focus on this req please as I think it’s unachievable).

        26. How much of Roosh do you know and for how long? How many of his books did you read? How many of his forum posts did you read?

        27. How about you answer my questions, instead of responding with your own. Maybe then I’ll entertain you. Until then, stop trying to deflect.
          Given your questions, I’ll just have to assume you are yourself very well acquainted with Roosh’s work and have read it thoroughly. So do enlighten me, please.

        28. You are addressing ME and contrasting Roosh advocating rape with my assessment of the absence of threats. I’m not responsible for other people’s inferences.
          If you ONLY read “How to Stop Rape”, it’s obviously satire and media is mad for lying and describing ROK as “pro-rape”. The post addresses a valid point that recently it became unthinkable to mention that women should take care of their own safety (think of all the SlutWalks started because a policeman dared to say so). If you, however, read other Roosh’s posts, his books and his forum posts, you’ll see that, even discounting for machismo bravado/locker room talk, Roosh multiple times coerced women into unwanted sex and had sex with extremely drunk women while being relatively sober. You will also learn that Roosh used false pretenses (like media just did) such as using a fake name and asking to use the bathroom only with the goal of getting inside the house. Many of his “conquests” were drunk women in big cities who had nowhere to look for Roosh afterwards. Had he treated a fraction of women in Iran/Armenia/Turkey (where his roots are from) the way he treated these women, he’d be dead or severely injured at the hands of women’s relatives.
          This whole ordeal is chickens coming home to roost, Roosh getting a taste of his own medicine and paying accumulated debt. Note that nobody affected Roosh in the physical realm (yet) – but Roosh has affected (negatively) more than a few women.
          P.S. This is not the first time he’s been overly dramatic. He has already filed a police report over a fucking drink (not even a glass) thrown into his face and pledged to follow through, only to reneg when it turned out the girl had enough reasons to counter-file so that he’d be in hot water as well. He is a fan of traditional social shaming yet when society gets together to shame him (I’m talking about a dox by anonymous (which for some insane reason he announced/spread/confirmed on his own twitter well before DailyMail if I am not mistaken), not about media semi-lies) so that his family could be included in shaming, he is suddenly against it. He encouraged his followers to contact Child protection services because a woman started an online petition against him and he reasoned she didn’t spend enough time with her kids. He trolls people – but when the trolling comes back to him – he is crying foul. Separately – him trolling Australia was absolutely hilarious and high-grade. A+.
          Media lies – look at Guardian’s coverage of Assange’s UN case – and it lied in this case due to limited research. Roosh coerced women into unwanted sex in the past and in that light his “thought experiment” neatly aligns with legalization of his actual past actions. Jus saying. Whether or not they satisfy the present (or past) legal definition of rape and could be proven in the court of law is irrelevant to me. I don’t know if he does so anymore, but he still “stands by his older work”. He is callous, Machiavellian and unremorseful.
          P.P.S. It also seems like the address dox was directed at Roosh – not his family – as the house is in his name – so even the whole “why are you attacking my family” might be moot/coincidental.

        29. Red Hood.. you go to UGA or were you quoting someone? I’d like to talk to someone else in the area..

        30. It’s ok, you see/read whatever you want to see.
          There were vigilante mobs threatening and ready to attack innocent men all over the world based on media lies all the while hiding real rape culture.
          Spin it whichever way helps you sleep at night.
          The time of the smart arse vulgar shitlords is almost over.
          If you don’t have a dog in this fight then GTFO.

        31. You barge into a conversation by widening the scope from Roosh only (something I can comment on) to hundreds of other men I have no idea about. Are you on your period?

        33. I don’t care about what a legal definition of threat is – I have my own barometer of right and wrong. If we take modern legality into consideration, Roosh is a serial rapist simply because he had sex with extremely drunk women while being relatively sober himself.
          Let me repeat myself: “None of what you posted constitutes explicit and immediate threats to Roosh since a visit to Australia/NZ was not in his (public) plans. If Roosh can’t take some trash talk heat, maybe he should turn off the computer.”
          Differential geometry is “real math”, but you are trying to argue that economics is ” real math” because it uses same symbols as math. Nope.
          In his presser Roosh briefly mentioned that somebody threatened to burn his house. Now, THAT is a threat. But. 1. I’d expect him to include this in his list if it actually happened. 2. It was followed immediately by “but will save your mom” which makes it a rather non-credible threat/shit talk, though still way more unnerving than anything else he mentioned. In comparison, when Roosh was asked “What to do when a girl won’t let me raw-dog”, his answer was “Rape”. Just as above, given the context, it’s a morbid, unnerving (to some readers) locker-room joke but not incitation to illegal action. Involving law enforcement in either seems unjustified.

        34. Fair enough. The way you contextualize it, I get your point. However, some of the emails/texts/facebook postings, etc … they’re clearly threats in the formal and broad legal definition, irrespective of this particular case, or even irrespective of whether Roosh would have been at venue X or Y or Z.
          As well, 75% of people charged with threats are not so based on obvious direct threats such as: “I will kill you using Method A, on such date, in such a place, for this reason.” Threats that commonly get law enforcement involved are typically subtle and implied, and that’s why the Law, across all english-speaking nations, has a broad definition of what constitutes a threat. (In this case, many of the “threats” were hardly subtle)

        35. I’m gonna have to admit I was not familiar with all those excerpts (I’m more of an ROK reader than a Roosh reader). I’m not into ‘PUA’ and what he has written there seems very seedy to me. If the Icelandic and Polish cases are deemed to be rape, then I guess it’s ultimately up to Polish or Icelandic authorities to deal with it. I’ll certainly admit he seems to have shown poor judgment in those cases.
          The rest may show poor taste, sensationalism and callousness – misogyny, if you will – but that does not constitute a crime. Nor does getting 50 “nos” in a row if it is closed with a “yes”.
          Even if Roosh were a convicted rapist, the labelling of the ROK meet-up as ‘pro-rape’ would be farcical. PUA is only a part of ROK (certainly not the part I am here for). I hope the positive sides of ROK can transcend the mistakes of its founder.
          Anyway, do you have links from the forum?

        36. Thank you for the link anyway. It does give me an idea of what parts of the neighbourhood I should keep clear of.

        37. Wait… I checked Roosh’s own site for the article about the Polish girl, and it seems the link you sent me left out key parts.
          From Twitlonger:
          “I got her down to her bra and panties but she kept saying “No !!! No !!!” I was so turned on by her beauty and petite figure that I told myself she’s not walking out my door without getting fucked.
          At that moment I accepted getting locked up in a Polish prison in order to make it happen.
          The best way to visualize our sex is an elephant mounting a kitten.
          My dick was half the size of her neck. I put her on her stomach and went deep, pounding her pussy like a pedophile.”
          From Roosh V:
          “We moved to my bed. I got her down to her bra and panties but she kept saying “no, no.” I was so turned on by her beauty and petite figure that I told myself she’s not walking out my door without getting fucked. At that moment I accepted getting locked up in a Polish prison in order to make it happen.
          She tried to go down on me but her mouth was too small. Then I grabbed her and made her sit directly on my face. I ate her pussy, the first time I’d done so in a couple of years. I enjoyed it.
          I put on a condom, lubed up, and finally got her consent to put it in. The best way to visualize our lovemaking is an elephant mounting a kitten. My dick was half the size of her neck. I put her on her stomach and went deep, pounding her pussy like a pedophile. She took it like a champion even though I imagine it must have felt like getting fucked by a telescope. My orgasm was from another world.”
          It is clear in Roosh’s article that it was ultimately consensual sex, with a girl who, while hesitant, willingly came to his home, undressed and performed and received oral sex before they had sex. The site you linked therefore quoted him in an extremely misleading manner.
          And a working link for Iceland: http://www.rooshv.com/i-dont-want-you-to-get-raped
          Roosh’s article again makes it clear it was consensual sex. Drunk, given, and seedy, sure, but read the article and decide for yourself whether the woman in question slept with him consensually or not. He did not force himself upon her.
          I still would personally distance myself from the PUA stuff, but nonetheless, it is no excuse to paint Roosh as a rapist without any solid evidence. A creep, sure. But to call him a rapist you’ll need better evidence than some shady sex stories and some offensive opinions. I should have been more vigilant about first-hand evidence before I responded earlier.

        38. Unfortunately I was quoting a stating from a poster who threatened to assault someone and wanted them to reveal their physical location. Very much a failed attempt to reason with someone who had acorns for brain cells. Now that you have made it known that you are from that area maybe someone can step up and let you know if they are from there.

        40. Just check the Criminal Code of Canada … there’s a formal definition that’s quite expansive, yet precludes “assault” since that’s, legally speaking, another concept. Each English speaking country has similar, though slightly different, formal legal definition of what constitutes a threat ie U.S. vs Canada vs UK vs Australia.

        41. I’m in the States. Just checked the statute and all but the “burn you house” threat that Roosh announced are at most violations only – not even misdemeanors. So it’s peanuts – as I correctly gauged upfront.

  35. Why does it seem that the Anglo countries have a near monopoly on extremely nasty, selfish, egotistical, and threatening responses?

    1. Fair observation. It comes from a smug conclave of pseudo educated people who use these type of responses to cover for their lack of understanding of the issues and feeling of inferiority. They cannot have an open discourse for long, so they result to emotional responses, provocation and dismissal. You realize after while they have no merits to their arguement, and stop listening or sink to their level. It becomes boring rather quickly.

      1. I am not Anglo, and find them terribly hypocritical and self-censoring. Very hard to get them to say what’s in their heart.

        1. I’m anglo and it has only gotten worse over the years as the educational institutions get progressively worse. It becomes rhetoric over honest discourse– or put simply, trying to win the arguement by shouting down your opponents. It is not an accident that the more left wing (socialist) they are, they more they have these traits.

      1. The bad weather and horrible cuisine may have something to do with their perpetually pissy and prissy temperament.

  36. A close friend of mine who I haven’t seen in years, posted a generic let’s kill those ROK rapists at 8pm Saturday. I informed him he was mistaken and posted the “How to stop Rape” article. The enormous shit storm that rained down on me. Even my ex who I haven’t seen in 2 years and is blocked posted some equalist drivel which my previously close friend reiterated for me. I sent a very short pointed reply asking him to relay it to the bitch… Nothing. He also liked everyone’s comments advocating my death and rape, some friend.

    1. It may be painful, but knowing who your friend really is will make the road clear to getting people who care about your well-being into your life. I wish you nothing but a great year and a re-invented, prosperous perspective.

      1. Odd that you’d describe it as painful. People change and as a man who enjoys turning off the filter and shooting realtalk, I’m used to the vitriol, but this was something else, so many people reacting with pure anger and hatred, if anything it was rather eye opening and entertaining, a little microcosm of the hatemail Roosh received. Made me feel like in a way I did attend the meetup.

        1. Same here. I know some of my would be persecutors well enough, and being so close and hearing their vitriol made me take a step back. Will certainly make for a great step forward as now I know more about my surroundings and those I may choose to ally myself with. Glad Facebook helped you gain some equal insight.

    2. You’re friend isn’t a man and it’s good that you have no further contact with the homo and the ex whore as well..
      Well done!

      1. The white knighting is real as well as the masculinised female, one of my attackers was female but due to her gender neutral name and mannish speech patterns I didn’t realise until she stated ‘as a woman’. Goddamn decline.

        1. They always state ‘as a woman’ because she has to play the woman card to appeal to white knights , else nobody would give a flying donkey about her opinion.

    4. You’re an absolute idiot. And while it’s not at all cool to wish violence on you, it’s also plainly obvious why people don’t like you. The “How to Stop Rape article” is offensive to almost everyone. I understand it was intended to be satire, but good satire is hard to write, and this was a particularly incompetent attempt at satire.

      1. I wasn’t expecting a bed of tea and roses, and Roosh may be no Hemingway, but his intention is fairly evident. Insulting my intelligence accomplishes nothing. Dissent and hate comes with the territory, but it was still strangely eery to watch a man I’d regarded as a true companion turn on me with the rest of his pack of dogs.

        1. MBHMB is right. Roosh was takikng a foolish risk with that article. You’re never going to win going toe to toe with these SJW. They are legion right now. The road to power, for now, is anonymity here and wealth and power in your daily life. We must all practice to empower ourselves with money and status. Lefties and Femonazi’s are all stone broke and welfare dependent by their 40’s but in their 20’s they pour out of universities and onto twitter in huge numbers. We just need to play a long and patient game.

        2. I understand your premise, but by that logic things should already be improving – they’re not – they’re getting worse. Your solution in terms of personal victory is spot on, however I just don’t see it having any real affect on the status quo long term. As you said they are legion and their message has spread so far its accepted as fact by the vast majority of people, how is a world populated by people like that supposed to survive, let alone thrive? I don’t have a solution, a real solution and to be honest I don’t think any of us do, that’s why we’re here. And Roosh may have ‘taken a foolish risk’, but like it or not he’s one of the few actually attempting change, I have serious doubts of whether it will actually accomplish anything, but besides simply ignoring the putrefaction around you and setting up your own personal eden as you have suggested, I see no alternate path.

      2. You miss the point of propper discourse. I feel sorry for you not understanding how its done probably because you educated in an environment that didn’t encourage it. Read more here and maybe you can pick it up. Cheers.

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