A while ago, I met a Canadian girl on the subway.
I walked into the train and went straight for the long-haired cutie with a round face I’d spotted before the doors had even separated. I left only one seat between us, despite the fact that the train car was near-empty. Fortunately, she had her face buried in a book, so she didn’t seem to notice.
After pretending to check my phone and rifle through my gym bag for a couple of minutes, I started up a conversation about the book she was reading—alleviating my aching curiosity if it was “any good.” I chatted her up over the next several stops and got her number before we walked in opposite directions at the station. She was a sweetheart, and I couldn’t help but notice that her warm eye-contact and smile had improved my mood—a rarity. I admit I was sort of hopeful that she’d text me back after my strict adherence to the 2.5-days-and-not-expressing-any-interest-beyond-transactional-plan-making texting rule.
She did. We went out to a local bar, where I bought us a round of beers, for which she thanked me twice. At a point during that beer, I ran to the bathroom. When I returned, she was looking out the window instead of her phone. After a single round, we went to my nearby apartment for a second one. It wasn’t long after our arrival there that I learned she had boyfriend back in Canada. Irritated, I asked her why she hadn’t seen fit to tell me earlier. She responded that it was because she’d normally “be very interested in getting to know [me].” But, despite this and my best efforts, I couldn’t get more than a closed-lip peck on the front of my face from her—a nothing-move she said made her “feel really-really guilty” anyway. I talked to her a little longer, while ushering the conversation in a way that would get her out the door. I had jerking off to do, and TV to watch, and she seemed a little antsy to leave after the minor physical contact we’d had.
Partly from reflex and partly from the faint smell of blood in the water, I spit out the throw-away line, “we should do this again, though,” as she was putting on her shoes. She replied more enthusiastically than I expected with, “Yeah, I’m going back to Canada for the weekend, but after that for sure!” On the way out, she thanked me for the additional beer I’d given her out of my fridge.
We got together a second time not long after she returned. Judging by the noticeable change in her attitude toward contact—and freshly groomed cooch—two things had likely happened: she’d dropped the boyfriend and had pre-meditated our bang. Whatever the case, the sex greatly exceeded my expectations.
It’s important to note that this girl knew that I wasn’t going to be her boyfriend. For one, she was going back to Canada—for good this time—a few weeks later. A recent college graduate, this was little more than an extended trip to visit some family. Secondly, she never brought it up or even intimated it in any oblique way. Yet, over the coming weeks, she’d do nice things that I can’t remember encountering in the US, at this—or any—stage of a non-formal relationship. When we’d confirm plans, she’d add something like “looking forward to seeing you!” She’d admit to things that no American girl ever does, “I was telling my mom about how interesting you are the other day!” She dressed stylishly, even when she was coming over to “just watch a movie.” She’d sometimes spend the night, other times she’d excuse herself and go home.
One time, I had to postpone her visit to my apartment by a half-hour because I was trying to meet a deadline on a project. She replied with this text:
Wow, that’s late! Kidding. I’ll bring some snacks to help you relax.
She walked in the front door with a cranium-sized bowl of homemade guacamole, an equally large bowl of homemade salsa, a giant bag of organic corn chips, and a six pack of imported beer. The guacamole was so good that I asked her for the recipe. And, I make Mexican food regularly. Who was this girl?
She went back to Canada without a single tear or ounce of drama. She’d never been clingy or crazy. The closest thing was when she said “keep in touch,” while writing down her e-mail address on the last day I saw her. Right after that, she handed me a new toothbrush in the packaging. “Here, it’s to replace the one you gave me the first night I stayed over.” It was the same brand and model.
In the ensuing days and weeks, I experienced an unfamiliar feeling. It took me a while to figure it out, but I eventually identified it as kinda-missing-her. Canada Girl had tenderized me with her sweetness. She’d known exactly what to do, and executed it to perfection. Even though I knew what she’d done, it didn’t reduce its effectiveness. She’d cracked my hard exterior.
Canadian girls (non-French) are known for being a lot like American girls—in all the wrong ways. So, as far as I could tell, this girl acted like girls I—and guys I know who have traveled more—mostly encounter outside of the English-speaking world. She’d been supremely feminine, but unafraid or awkward around a man. She had tact, never once flaunting her sexual past with masculine pride. She demonstrated her domestic skills by using them, instead of just boasting about them. She’d been nurturing, when she accurately ascertained it was called for. She never claimed to be too busy to see me—even though she actually had a lot going on. She displayed enthusiasm about seeing me. She never over-stayed her welcome, or made herself at home. She thanked me—even over-thanked me—for everything.
In short, this girl had game.
Guys who spend time abroad talk about how the girls—everything else being equal—are more feminine or more wholesome or more old-fashioned or just plain “better.” But what they’re not saying is that much of this basically amounts to “game.” Girls with girl-game, simply told, know how to get (and, by extension, often keep) a man with more than dangling the quickly consumed new-pussy carrot.
Not long after Canada Girl left, I went out with a series of (American) girls who were a fairly typical sampling of my previous talent pool. The juxtaposition made the differences all too plain to ignore.
On one first date, I asked a girl where she’d gotten her colorful scarf. She answered, “My last boyfriend was Turkish. I went to Turkey with him all the time and got it there.” Another girl proudly announced that she was a “Microwave Queen” when I showed her my expensive French cookware, bragging that she made “kick-ass [boxed] mac-and-cheese.” Yet another girl—granted, I met her online—tried to schedule our first date two weeks out, because she had “several other dates [that] week.”
This kind of thing continued, girl after girl.
When—after a heated first-date make-out session—I went to remove one girl’s already-unbuttoned jeans, she blurted out, “I’m not having sex with you on the first whatever-this-is. That keeps happening and I don’t feel good about that pattern.” Another girl, with whom I had had sex on the first date, came back for the second with a confession that—over the recent extended holiday weekend—she’d “had a little too much to drink,” had sex with someone else, and was now “just trying to figure it all out.”
In those weeks, I never once got a thank-you for the first rounds of drinks that I bought, for the top-shelf alcohol they were served at my house, for the contact-lens solution, for the brie-cheese-on-crostini, or for anything else. I never once got a trace of feminine sweetness in a text, or otherwise. These girls resolutely hid any sign of interest or vulnerability, beyond whatever was implied in the course of physical intimacy. And, they certainly never replaced anything I’d given them. I got sex. And that’s all.
There’s a myth that game is only for men, but there’s a whole universe of game for women that American girls were either never taught by their mothers, or willfully refuse to learn. It’s basically a dead language in America. There’s a myth that a girl just has to “look cute” and show up, and that there’s little more to getting a quality guy than playing musical man-chairs until you land on the “right” dick. My story proves otherwise.
There’s also a myth that American men have no game when, in reality, American women are even worse.
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The reason why men and women in America have no game is because they are playing by the wrong rules.
Men should stick to men game…women should stick to women game. They shouldn’t be trying to reverse roles.
This seriously takes me back. Of all the notches I’ve accumulated in my lifetime, the one’s that stick out the most are those women who successfully utilized girl-game. Most of those women were from countries like Poland or Hungary. They were sexy in that they were feminine and not because they were slutty. They were eager to please. They were genuinely pleasant to be around. When our time together came to it’s inevitable end, I was more than willing to take down an email address. Of course I would keep in contact because they were people that I genuinely cared about. As for the other notches, they’re nothing more than memories of a night of pick-up and sex, good or bad. I’ll never see or talk to them again and I couldn’t care less.
Have you considered that it isn’t “girl game” but just the fact that they’re nice and cultured? Reducing politeness, kindness and femininity to “game” is a pretty twisted logic in my opinion. Hell, if I’ve ever opened the door for a female it isn’t me gaming, it’s just the way I’ve been brought up.
Great post, though I think “girl game” might be an unnecessarily confusing term. Feminism has encouraged women to be more competitive, aggressive and graceless. Women with “girl game” haven’t learned a new skill set, they just lack the feminist brainwashing. The quality many women lack in America is femininity. Men who learn “game” are really just learning masculinity, the routines and behavior changes just being a crutch to get there. Masculinity and femininity complement each other.
As you illustrated, you can still get sex from unfeminine women, but it pales in comparison to the experience of being with a feminine woman. As time goes there will be more competition not just for slim, sexy women, but feminine ones as well. Unless there’s a sea change in female attitudes in the U.S., the women of Eastern Europe/Russia and other places will continue to be much more appealing and worth our time.
Feminism has encouraged women to be more competitive, aggressive and graceless to the men they only see as walking wallets, eunuchs or cuckolds. They’ll spread for no-commitment sex and brutal degradation with the guys other women want too.
Fixed that for you, no charge.
Feminist women love Ryan Lochte. Jeah!
I’ve noticed the more rural a girl is the more girl game she has as well. Those that grew up in Nebraska, eastern Colorado, Kansas, South Dakota places like that. The girl described above had many qualities of women I have met and dated from those types of areas.
True, rural American girls aren’t bad. Unfortunately, you’d better be a fundie Protestant or willing to have your kids raised as such.
And why would you not? What’s the alternative? Having them raised by some whore who recently, or not so, aged out of the prostitution racket?
The main “problem” with religious, rural girls, is that they don’t frequent venues not vetted by daddy. Which is another way of saying, you only really meet them at church functions; where you are in trial mode for the first couple of years or so 🙂 So, unless you are a “fundie Protestant” (or Muslim, Mormon, Hasidic Jew, Russian Old Believers……), you’ve got an awful lot of theater to play before you manage to fake your way in. There are shortcuts (hint: Christian Boybands, or even Christian man-bands), the Clergy (protestant clergy marry, even fundies). Heck, I know a guy who was an honest to goodness monk for a few years, became a priest, and married the virgin, religious as heck, well paid in her teens model, daughter of a fairly well known political operator; with whom he had 5 kids last I heard. And a rural parish, and a happy life ever after……. Probably not a high probability undertaking, and it may have something to do with his dad knowing her dad, and him looking like Brad Pitt in that monk movie….
Well, don’t knock people or females for being Fundamentalist Christians. One part of the problem we have with these feminists today is the fact that they threw away those bothersome morals given to them by said religion. Can’t have you cake and eat it too.
I wasn’t necessarily talking about uber religious women. My meaning of rural was, small town, close knit family type of women. Who know how to talk to people because they knew everyone in town and always said “hi” and waved to them when you saw them.
Really, because I partly grew up in rural Kansas, and the girls were the pretty much the same, if not bigger sluts. Barring the “Country Princess” types who were nothing but extremely high maintenance.
QUOTE TATEREARL: “Men should stick to men game…women should stick to women game. They shouldn’t be trying to reverse roles.”
Because men desire the hairy hole that females posses is why women simply need no game, they just need to simply show up, and even when they are obnoxious as fuck they will still have legions of sex starved men willing to put up with any crap she will dish out.
However having said that, whilst men have to put in all the work, it behooves any female that if she can just pretend to be a human being then she will see amazing results.
It’s odd that the girl Tuthmosis met was Canadaian considering that one of the worst man hating hub comes out of Toronto, but once in a blue moon it is possible to find a tootsie roll in the Turd Sea.
Im posting this from Toronto. It is really bad here. So true. The worst, coldest, vilest, shallowest women come here to puke out their venom on men. Remember Toronto is the HOME of Slutwalk. Yessiree we’re sooo proud of that.
Toronto is also home to having gay oral porn posters hanging up in their public schools. And the home of the new education curriculum (K-12) teaching 5 genders, that homo/bi/trans-sexuality is “ok”, wants to censor the words “mother” and “father”, that one’s body does not mean they’re the corresponding gender, and encourages boys to play princesses in plays, sex-ed including anal and oral sex, etc. etc. What are our future generations going to look like? There are already enough pussified manginas here…Not even the parents are outraged. Canada has to be the dumbest, most passive country thusfar.
Also home to the (non-elected) lesbian premier of Ontario, and home to the mayor known as Rob Ford with constant attacks on him in media (just happens to be straight, Christian, white male, hmmm…). Home to gay pride parrades and queer-pride flags forced onto local churches.
I don’t think there’s anywhere else as queer and abominable as Toronto. God help us all.
*parades
Also want to add:
Toronto – probably the only place where even the mayor gets a false sexual-assault allegation against him.
Toronto is highly Communist – openly states that the government “coparents” the children in school, has a handbook teaching against “heteronormativity”, and for a few years has held annual international communist meetings. The feminist movement there has held a secret meeting not too long ago, concerned over the rise of men-right’s groups (and how to combat it). The student council of a university in Toronto (U of T I think) denied a men’s group from forming, and there is a famous Youtube video of a protest against a man guest-speaking about issues that men and boys face.
And then these same women, who only bring sex to the table, complain that men only want them for sex.
The joy of being a woman…you can go on a path of self-destruction and blame it on men.
Feminism is all about women blaming their nature on men.
You are an ignorant person.
Girl game is about getting a good man to commit, not about sex. Girls don’t need girl game for sex, just looks (and then even fatties can score with the desperate).
How many times have they shared intimacies with guys they KNEW would not commit?
Do you think being chosen last, as the guy who gets to commit to her, is an honour?
THIS. The most insightful comment today. Exactly right. “Girl game is about getting a good man to commit, not about sex. Girls do not need girl game for sex.”
Brilliant.
Very well said!
Wrong. Girls need girl game to get the most desirable men to commit. Of
course they can get the least desirable to commit, just like men easily
can get sex from the least desirable women, but that’s not what they
want.
True stuff. This is why western men are quickly disarmed and succumb to SE Asian women, who are often both attractive and talented but won’t mention it. On one overseas flight had the good fortune to sit next to some beauty who I thought was 17. Turned out she was 23 and had a degree in physics from Stanford or some such place. She didn’t mention it until I asked her.
When I was younger the one thing that would make me cringe is when I would say something like “I am learning guitar…” and she says “Oh, I knew a guy in a band, he was really good.” Substitute “guy in band” with “artist”, “mechanic”, whatever, always getting one-upped by some bastard you don’t even know. I suppose nowadays the empowered gals are are saying “I was in a band, but now I am studying to be a vetrinarian…”
Men pride themselves on accomplishment and utility in the world, and having some female deflate that hardens your attitude. The eastern women will listen, ask more about you, then reflect affirmations.
On meeting my first wife, tole her I had bought a clarinet. She turned it around and made me feel like Mr.Clarinet. Later discovered she had a degree in music and taught flute and piano while working for her engineering degree.
What’s with your hard-on for SE Asians? I live in SE Asia and it’s a pussy wasteland (since I don’t like Asians full stop). The western guys I see with their arm around an Asian are almost all complete beta nerds. So sick of desperate, unattractive, white men claiming Asians are great and pretending it’s not anything to do with the fact that they are repellent to white women.
So you live in Asia and don’t like Asian women? What’s your beef with them? They don’t put out quickly enough? And it’s the white “nerds” who are making excuses….
Nope, nothing about “putting out,” or excuses. Here’s some factors, douche: about 95% of them are Muslim (in Malaysia, that is). As for the rest, about 90% percentage are quite fat or morbidly obese (didn’t used to be the case 18 years ago when I first visited here, roughly 99.9% had perfect bodies). And the faces… not into Asians full stop, but that’s just taste. Then the cultural differences/barrier… nope again, not interested in karaoke or sushi or kung-foo or any of that shit. So does that sound like a pussy paradise for someone like me? or do you honestly think these are just “excuses?” P.S. I work here, in case you’re wondering why I’m in Asia if I don’t like Asians.
Asia is a paradise for Urkel, but Dutchie has standards… you have to hand it to him that he’s not jumping upon the first 4’10” 5 who makes eyes at him. I don’t like Asian chicks either, unless they’re total knockouts.
Whats your point ? Only that you dont like Asians as far as I can see..or perhaps ur a western girl hating on the competition and shaming the men who prefer the competition . Whatever, your contribution is not really needed.
My point is pretty bloody obvious: I get pissed off with white guys who are unable to pull decent white girls stating that Asians are the way to go. It’s fucking pathetic. It’s nothing about competition, I mean, as if a good looking Asian has any chance standing next to a good looking Eastern European. Why don’t you Asian lovers just say it: you prefer a woman who’s subservient and looks like a little girl.
Eh I could get pissed at white men for banging EE girls because they are not able to pull “decent western women”. Just because they prefer submissive EE girls. I dont get your point, if its asian or ea its the same , they behave the same, just look different.90% if all white guys are unable to pull decent white girls. And they ALL pull way below what they should be able to pull. And what they could pull in EE or SEA.
Again, you have no point or your not good at explaining it.
I prefer Asians over EEs any day of the week. Who are you or I to say whats “best”. Its a matter of taste !
“Why don’t you Asian lovers just say it: you prefer a woman who’s subservient and looks like a little girl.”
I love love love adore in fact subservient women who look like little girls. It’s called femininity.
Now, why don’t you admit you like masculine combative women who ass fuck you with a strap on! Either that or admit to being a female troll.
I have never had trouble pulling women of all races. I am 6’3″ stud-handsome, educated, have marketable skills and an accomplished dancer. I also don’t care what you pisses you off.
So you are working in asia and white men are ignoring you and your attitude for the local females who make you look like a fat, hairy cow.
“Subservient”, oh that’s a laff.
Agreed.
Don’t get me wrong, there are plenty of betas pulling average asian girls in SE asia, but its still a poosy paradise in places because of the high quality asian girls and the fact that western girls over there have to lift their game in the face of all the competition (lots of 5s and 6s throwing themselves at whitey still makes the western girls feel like they have to work for it.)
In other words even though you aren’t playing in the herb leagues, the greater background culture makes it easier to pull the quality.
Asian women are getting more “empowered” aka subscribing to feminism. Just saying.
Keep your shitty opinion to yourself, bud. Asians are significantly more attractive than most Eastern Europeans.
You’re right. I forgot, most of the Victoria’s Secret models are Asian. I humbly grovel at your wise and completely valid perspective.
You’re right. I forgot, most of the Victoria’s Secret models are Asian. I
humbly grovel at your wise and completely valid perspective.
They are more feminine against guys they cannot control, who bring more to the table than others they know.
Doesn’t make them a better bargain, just a more shrewd operator.
Lol, I don’t know where you quoted that from, but I agree. There’s a lot of good conversations on ROK, but there’s also this false hope that Asian girls are better. Maybe at the moment white guys are a hotter commodity because you have bigger dicks (or so they think) and white guys who can travel to Asia are probably richer than the average Asian guy, but the more white guys flow in to the market, the more disposable you’ll be. Then you’ll see that women are all the same. Red Pill Round 2.
Yep, it really is all about the money. Gold-digging is a career for a lot of them (literally), I don’t know how many times I’ve heard the story about their poor family back home who are sick and need some $$$.
But I’m not having a go at Asians (despite what some people think), it’s the nerds and the fat, balding grey haired white men who think that Asian chicks dig them.
Marriage is just too risky. Even a nice girl can change into a tiger over the years. If you want companionship then cohabit. But I heard that there are laws now that even cohabitation is considered substantially as marriage, and the guys get screwed just like in a normal divorce. Fucked up, man.
I’m not a female troll. But I’m not a liar so I’ll come clean: yes I do like strong women who fuck me hard in the ass with rubber dicks.
“..even cohabitation is considered substantially as marriage”
that’s true in Canada. I had a friend who shacked up with this fat bitch for something like 5 years, he made sure that all his mail etc was delivered to his parents house just in case, and he never paid any bills. If he bought food etc it was always cash. He left no trace of his living there at all.. And sure enough when break up time came and she wanted support she threatened him with legal action. Her lawyer said: your ex left NO evidence, then she realized what a dumb bitch she was (oh and he went and married a submissive fillipina girl –the fat bitch heard about it and freaked but could do nothing).
Thanks, that’s pretty good advice.
I’m sorry to hear that….but, on further reflection, you must be very regular.
As if a good looking Eastern European woman has a chance standing next to a good looking Asian woman? If Asian women wore revealing clothes there wouldn’t be any comparison. Slutty women are slutty women right? Asians would win straight out and maybe the Eastern Europeans would have to resort to walking around naked to get a little more attention.
Hmmm… do Asian women need to resort to undressing themselves and making soft porn pictures to get ahead in life? Nope. They prefer to work, study and have a family. What’s Victoria Secret anyway? Your magazine for your ‘personal time’?
If you had doubts that this site edits comments, well look at the comment above as proof. I’ve slagged off Roosh for being a pretender many times and he always re-writes it as a positive comment towards him. Just a heads up that there’s a bunch of BS here since some of the writers are fucking betas who live in their parents basement while they pretend to be travelling around the world banging chicks.
I found this whole discussion interesting. I don’t consider myself that great looking, just average, and I’ve got medium “game”, meaning I’m aware of it, and use it to an extent, but I’m no player. That said, I love Asian women. I love the look, the petite bodies, the family values, the submissiveness, all of it. A female friend once told me, “You like girls that look like 12 year old boys.” I’m OK with that, whatever. What I like is what I like. Roosh talks about these Euro girls that look like models, decked out to the nines in high heels and fancy dresses. I ain’t into that at all – never have been. I like my petite, cute down to Earth Asian girls, and they love me, so it’s all good. Different strokes for different folks.
yeah i saw that bullshit up in canada where you are considered married just for living with a girl for two years. How did that even get passed-and do we have that to look forward to in the US?
Wait what?
Not liking women that look like little girls means you liked to be fucked in the ass?
I like when women look like Jessica Rabbit: big tits, tiny waist, heart shaped ass. That is femininity.
Little girls are just little girls. Real men can fuck woman that look like woman and still be in charge.
didn’t know that a real man let an underwear company tell them whats hot
what exactly is your point you fucking faggot? there are guys who can pull white chicks and still prefer SEA women. You mad?
What a complete bitch-monkey. Your arguments are dirt-stupid, and here’s why bitch:
1. Victoria’s Secret models and their cultural orientation – this is completely irrelevant and only demonstrates the cultural supremacy associated with this particular Western capitalist modelling-agency, along with its subjective beauty standards that are NOT universal (neither biologically, nor culturally either).
2. Why does there exist such a massive appeal to Eastern (and even Middle Eastern) women, where traditional femininity is (somewhat) still alive? Even when it comes to massage parlors, you’ll find that plenty of white men are opting out for the more feminine, tender and graceful Asian women. If your argument is that these men are ‘beta faggots’ who can’t ‘pull’ hot Western women, it still doesn’t explain their overall AVERSION to ‘hot Western women’. If you FAIL to pull a certain population of women, it doesn’t mean you won’t still be ATTRACTED to that population. By and large, this is NOT the case where even successful and more dominant men are finding Eastern and Middle Eastern women more appealing, especially when it comes to marriage.
3. The only valid criticism is that ALL WOMEN are the SAME in that they INTRINSICALLY need an authority figure to KEEP THEM IN CHECK. If a woman from an Eastern background is naturally feminine, and treats you well initially and respects you because of her conditioned assumption that because you are male, you are also a Man–it’s just a temporary form of bliss. When your inability to lead as a dominant man is exposed, things are NOT going to stay the same. My girl is a large-eyed and gorgeous traditional Pakistani whose femininity is clear. If I were to cut my balls off, however, her bitch-potential would inevitably emerge.
– The three major world religions’ holy scriptures place MEN as the head of the family and household. Obedience to the husband (when disobedience to say ‘God’ is not implied) is made a religious obligation for Jewish, Christian, and Muslim women. Why is this? It reflects an innate understanding of sexual and relationship dynamics.
4. Yes, there also exist subtle bitches in Eastern cultures–and many of these manifest as blatant scam artists looking to trap an unsuspecting man unfamiliar with societal dynamics. What’s your point? It just goes to show that bitch-behaviour and corrupt behaviour in general exist in multiple places in the world, albeit to different extents and in different forms. A more feminine woman will still exude aspects of bitch behaviour when NOT kept in check. This is why being a man => proactive. Active maintenance is in our blood. All in all, a feminine woman with some strains of bitch behaviour is BETTER than a full-fledged bitch.
Capiche?
Those ‘betas’ pulling average Asian girls will either learn to lead a woman properly, or they’ll eventually have the SAME problem they had with Western women. The only difference is that the Western women were already screwed up to begin with, while those Asian hunnies will be gradually conditioned into bitches by their INABILITY to keep them in check properly.
Running after ‘feminine’ women because you can’t handle and mould bitch behaviour is a SHORT-TERM solution. Even if feminine women’s ‘bitch-behaviour’ is easier to handle, what will happen when feminism reaches and corrupts such lands (already happening)?
Feminine beauty significantly involves feminine behaviour; because Western women’s behaviour is so dysfunctional, the only functional and orderly aspect to focus on now is their physical appearance. This is why physical appearance has been overemphasized in the West to an unnatural and synthetic degree. A VIctoria’s Secret model’s capacity to serve as a proper feminine girlfriend or wife is greatly questionable. Good for a ONS? Sure.
Or those who are unable to pull decent Western girls stating that Slavs are the way to go. It’s fucking pathetic.
All just following RV’s nonsense. He can’t score in the West,
understandable with that look and hideous smelly armpit flow (by his own admission), so he glorifies poorer countries and curses Western women. It’s convenient to cry “feminism!” when only a minority of women actually believe in feminism. But losers need excuses.
“only demonstrates the cultural supremacy associated with this particular Western capitalist modelling-agency, along with its subjective beauty standards that are NOT universal”
ROFLMAO Shut the fuck up, little socialist loser.
So you believe in the feminist, Marxist media shit about how there is no objective standard for beauty, despite MASSIVE evidence to the contrary, and you blame evil racist, “capitalist” Whites for somehow manipulating people into thinking White women are attractive. Fucking idiot. You don’t even believe that yourself actually, you just want to do your part for the socialist masters you drool over, hoping they will give you a pat on the head.
“You’re right. I forgot, most of the Victoria’s Secret models are Asian.”
No, they are Germanic Western women. Oops, but we aren’t supposed to say anything positive about those. Since this is not a place for men who can get them. So do go on talking about Russian women, who look like lizards with their perpetually sneering, malformed noses, and faces that only look good to the extent they resemble the Germanic archetype.
You talking about “East European women” as if that was one category shows your ignorance about that which you idolize. The people in the Balkans are practically a separate race. Romania, Yugoslavia, Albania – hideous. And the way they act mirrors the way they look. Anyone with experience of them learns to hate them. White? Not really.
“because Western women’s behaviour is so dysfunctional”
Only in the eyes of the loser who can’t get the good women. Most commenters here are pathetic.
Most commenters here ARE pathetic, which is why you shouldn’t be wasting your time here–head over to Manhood Academy. My point is simply this: physical beauty is a form of order. We find ORDER to be attractive. But, so too is a feminine behaviour. Since this form of order is scarcely in existence today, men focus their attention excessively on the former form of order. A man trained to EXERCISE HIS AUTHORITY CAN shape bitchy women for sure. But, virtually NONE of the males commenting here have ANY clue how to do that.
“…only a minority of women actuall ybelieve in feminism.”
Pull your head out of your asshole, you have A LOT of learning to do BEFORE you’re in ANY position to offer advice to fellow men. You raise GOOD points (see # 3 below), but they’re LOST in your bashing of helpless males here who have NO direction. If you’re going to EXPOSE their IDIOCY, you then need to SHOW them how to correct what they’re doing wrong, otherwise you’re wasting YOUR time and THEIRS. Consider these:
# 1: It matters NOT if a woman consciously BELIEVES in feminism as an ideology. Its effects of the BEHAVIOUR of women today is UNDENIABLE. Even then, MOST women are indoctrinated to believe they are valuable ONLY when they COMPETE against men from childhood.
# 2: This man-hating feminist society denies males sufficient social training needed to develop social competence. This is why you have FAGGOT PUAs selling snake oils and preaching alpha-male vs. beta-male bullshit. Fortunately, there are world-class academies like ManhoodAcademy to fix that problem.
# 3: You’re RIGHT about RV’s whining. NONE of the people pro ROK are trained to exercise their authority as men (an expression most here don’t even understand — visit ManhoodAcademy) and be able to shape the behaviour of women they meet HERE in the West. I’ve done it. My friends have done it. We’re ordinary men. The difference is, we chose to LISTEN to the lessons REAL LIFE and EXPERIENCE teach as opposed to what masturbating faggots theorize in their mothers’ basements.
Seems like the modesty is the most attractive quality in Asians. (Or submissiveness, if you want to go that far.) Having lived in East Asia for a time many years ago, I can vouch for this, and this is one reason why I was, for a time, attracted to them.
OTOH, the infantilization that typically occurs in such cultures, which makes the average 22 yr old act like she’s 12, did get on my nerves after a while, along with massive groupthink and poor English skills. Early last year, I tried to get with a Taiwanese girl studying here in the US and I broke it off after two dates because I got tired of her stumbling her way through English. And she was here studying linguistics, by the way.
Modestly, in general, is an attractive quality in any woman, IMO. Sorely lacking in the modern Americhick, you can still find it overseas if you look hard enough.
It’s all in how a woman makes you feel.. that is TRUE game.
I really appreciate this article. Hating on American girls is fair enough, but without putting it in context, that complaining can come across as bitter and whiny.
The context is that feminine energy is beautiful and real, but scarce in Americaines. Put those two together, realize what you’ve been missing, you really have learned a ‘tragic lesson.’
It’s not bitter or whiny to say the fact that that American women are shallow, self-absorbed and impersonal.
Sure, but it’s bitter and whiny to DO NOTHING about it. Women respond to masculine action. American men have a responsibility to clean up the mess that has been allowed to persist and grow via feminism. Bitches know that for every authoritative and masculine man who refuses to tolerate bitch-behaviour and demands the respect he deserves for what he does, there exists thousands of other white-knight manginas. Eliminate the white-knight faggotry, and the problem becomes quite simple to address: keep your bitch in check. A woman’s natural and feminine nature will emerge IN RESPONSE to a masculine man’s behaviour towards her EVEN IF she wasn’t raised properly. It will take more time, effort, and consistency–but it’s all operant conditioning.
Gender is an artifice of culture. A social construct.
Bullshit. Gender is linked to functions borne out of physical and mental differences.
“Gender” as we currently know it is indeed a construct of the Cultural Marxists.
This is true. Loose the man-gina gents!
This is very true. Girl game (getting a man to develop feelings for you) has very little to do with sex, despite all the condescending American sluts’ bleatings that “all guys want is sex”. Looking back on my PUA days, I can’t recall ever developing feelings for any of the girls I’ve banged, no matter how hot they were or how good they were in the sack. The only girl I still think about is one I’ve never fucked who showed me genuine sweetness and vulnerability during the 2 weeks we hung out. She was foreign (surprise) and saving herself for marriage.
the only reason you think about that girl is because you couldn’t have her- not her sweetness
Wrong. I don’t think about girls when sex is off the table, I kick them out and delete their contacts. But her I let stick around for weeks knowing the whole time there would be no sex.
Most people I know are proud when our hockey teams win a season or win at the Olympics, or that our economy is better, but nothing made me more proud than hearing that one of our women actually had quality. Go Canada!
NO. Canadian women are part of the western sphere which means they’re just as badly infested with feminism, if not worse. On a side note, from an outsider’s perspective, “but nothing made me more proud than hearing that one of our women actually had quality.” sounds incredibly sad.
I found that read rather touching. Before betastasis sets in I’m going to pluck a goose with my unbrushed teeth.
this is one of the major things that constantly in my face whenever I go back to the US. The women are just…argh. The complete lack of grace and ability to act in the a way that inspires men. They walk like lumberjacks. I told my step mom some of the things girl there have said to me when out, and she is just appalled at the not even the lack of ability to be a graceful woman, but the ability to act like a good human being. I cant say all American women are like this, I have dated a couple of Bay Area girls (one chill long beach and one transplant from the south), but for all the years that I have gone out there, I can go out a week in Europe or anywhere really and difference in grace is staggering.
“They walk like lumberjacks” really encapsulates the American woman. The loss of grace is what’s done them in. Grace equals: respecting your body so that it looks good; not being belligerent and difficult just for the sake of being difficult; and carrying yourself with feminine class.
So well said, bro! Lumberjacks indeed!
Girl game is about acting like a girl, guy game is about acting like a guy. No wonder feminists hate it. Feminism is all about making the sexes repellent to each other, and then they wonder why marriage rates are so low and divorce rates so high.
Ha! Oh yes, Canadian girls are so much better! Fuck…
They’re actually better than other English-speaking girls. Unlike Britain, Oz, and N.Z., more American men bring Canadians in on spouse visas than American women. That’s telling, if you ask me.
Having lived in Canada and Britain I disagree. Canadian women are absolutely brutal. They get all of their insight and ideas straight from America. They emulate every American celebrity you can name. I haven’t seen this on even close to the same scale with the British girls I’ve dated. There’s lots of similarities with some of them, but just on sample alone the idiots are much more prevalent in Canada…and I didn’t live in Toronto.
You cant just spit game gentlemen you have to turn out reverse bitches.
I do this as a charity. I’ve taught god knows how many at this point. Most of them are happily married. You can’t just sit here and bitch about the poor quality, you have to drop them then find a girl worthy of your knowledge and train them.
The girl you seek will come out of the stable you build, trained by the bitches you groomed.
Teach a girl how to act and cut her loose. Just do it to make the world a better place, it’s at that point now.
yea that is a way to put it good job
Does a woman concede to be trained in that way … by a man she hasn’t had sex with?
I’m not sure a greater supply of sluts will keep civilisation going.
Yes, I agree…. women are far more animal driven than men. All the face paint and costumes puts them on a level with savages to some degree… don’t be fooled by the war mask…..
A pack animal always seeks a leader or leads by default.
Men need to muscle up and learn how to break the bitches in, just like a good cowboy has to break a horse in.
Women used to be taught by their mothers, and families, but since the feminist 60s, now they are only taught to bitch and whine. Many are so spoilt with such a sense of entitlement and privilege, you’d have to send them to a marines boot camp just to knock them down to size enough to have a hope in hell of shaping them a little.
Those ones are not worth even one beer.
Men should start the chick pays the first date rule.
Men should start the fuck on first date or you’re dumped rule.
Men should start the expensive weekend away on her tab to seal the deal rule.
Problem is there’s always some Mangina ready to sell out team men, just to wet his whistle.
Brad Pitt and Edward Norton’s Fight Club had a very real,powerful and somewhat grim message to it, but it’s not far from the truth.
Men need to become men once more, and Manginas should be tarred and feathered.
I actually just wrote an article, very related to this one, about how society’s views on what men want in women is all distorted and where this comes from. If you’re interested: http://locepedia.net/blog/article/Men_do_not_want_strong_and_sassy_women
This post is gold… fantastic description of what’s lacking in American women. Also, I’m willing to bet that the Canadian girl had a strong father figure growing up.
http://youtu.be/WM1RChZk1EU
Thanks, first time I listened to “Jay-Z”. He’s no Scott Joplin. Hard to understand what all the fuss is about these idiot “rappers”, though perhaps it fulfills some adolescent urge to annoy others.
“There’s a myth that a girl just has to “look cute” and show up, and that there’s little more to getting a quality guy than playing musical man-chairs until you land on the “right” dick. My story proves otherwise.”
But are they wrong ? If all women act like that you have no choice..of course, with competition, they would get blown away..but since 1000s of stupid whiteknight beta males stand in line for every rude, chuppy Ke$ha-Copy..does she really need game ?
Sure, to keep a man perhaps. But then they would have to admit that a man actually means something to them..and oh no, they would only admit THAT over their dead bodies
I’ve noticed the only time a man is appreciated for what he does and who he was is when he’s dead. Aurora wasn’t a bad example of this
Good article, sums up why the social scene in the US is in post-apocalyptic mode. Guy game makes women happy, girl game makes men happy…it’s a breath of fresh air when you encounter a charming feminine woman in person. And yes, feminists, those women are valued, while women who try to act like men have nothing to offer except a temporary increase in the distance between their knees.
These hoes out here have put MAD dudes in jail with that shyt they pull. Getting dudes all hard and then acting SURPRISED the dude want to fuck? Or when they do fuck, these hoes take it back and go to the cops.
These tramps raped the real meaning of rape
These hoes would have that tight game if they knew the dude was rich and/or famous. Other than that, she just gonna act dumb and keep throwing EVERY excuse in the book to not fuck you. Fuck these females
“Game” for women hardly exists at all. It really comprises only two things: (1) Lose the weight, and (2) Lower your outrageously unrealistic standards and lose the attitude. That’s it. That’s game for chicks. If women would just do those two things, they would have guys barking at their heels 24/7.
But they can’t even do this. And it is a measure of how worthless most of them are, or how low the standards have gotten, that they can’t even manage to do those two things.
“Game” for women really is to just be there. But yes, being skinny and losing the attitude will make men want them more.
To hear some men talk about it, you’d think guys just bang Meagan Goodes but a lot of these Whoopi Goldbergs have kids. Somebody had to have fucked them which proves women don’t even need to be average-looking to get guys. They just need to available.
Maybe they just let themselves go but most of them were ugly to begin with.
This kind of thinking has led to women thinking they can get away with anything.
Do you think any man in the 50s would have married a girl who couldn’t cook?
No, because that was taken as something a woman SHOULD to be able to land a man.
Now you say she only needs to show up, not be fat and not be hostile.
Can’t you see that you are in effect enabling their behaviour?
Unless of course, you’re just talking about SNLs, but as mentioned, that is not what women want.
Until men refuse to get into relationships with women who can’t keep a home, admire and nurture, nothing will change.
For sex yes, for commitment no. And its commitment that women want.
They want commitment from the guys who have resources but not female attention.
Which is why they only “mature” after they stop being able to attract guys other women want.
Women are only as loyal as their options or social repercussions … from other women.
It’s really easy to say “lose the attitude,” but what will replace it? Attitudes don’t just evaporate. To replace your bad attitude with a nice attitude involves a complex process of changing the way you interact with the opposite sex, improving your life to the degree that you’re not walking around with a chip on your shoulder, and generally shifting your outlook on things. When you actually think about how to go about that–in real life–that equals game, man.
these women are a rare gym in america. usually they are 1st or 2 nd generation american.
Excellent post. First off I can’t express my level of shock enough that you experienced that with a Canadian girl. I dated loads of them growing up in Canada, and not once did I run into a girl like that. The American girls I’ve dated since being in London are even worse. How is it cool and funny to brag about making mac ‘n cheese?
My brother once dated a Canadian girl who admitted she didn’t even know how to make pasta. Pasta!
That Canadian girl was brought up wisely, or she wisely discovered things for herself. Either way, you are correct sir. I’ve dated a girl in Europe who was like this. However, it seemed like her friends had a bad influence on her (that’s my theory anyways). She was sweet and understanding about certain things….then she’d go away and two days later would be angry about certain those same things. It seemed to me that her friends (who I met and are typical loud, obnoxious idiots) were giving her horrible advice. It doomed her.
Girls need to learn game on their own and stop listening to the external forces that feminism has infiltrated with horrible ideas. This isn’t dissimilar to what the feminist forces have done to men. Only men don’t get laid with these feminist behaviours so they learn. Women, on the other hand, are easily influenced and almost seem incapable of independent thought. Which makes learning game much more difficult for the North American woman.
When I was in London, I almost went down the engagement track with a 33 year old from Vancouver. Although we broke up, she was lovely and sweet, unlike her harpie friends from Toronto who would say “you’re American-you suck!” upon meeting me (nearly all said some version of this).
I prefer giving women a chance as individuals, while still trying to know the social or cultural forces that might make them cunts.
I’m a Canadian and I would like to say: you do NOT suck. America is alright by me.
I was shocked that I experienced that with a Canadian girl too, given what I’ve heard from credible sources. Either she was an outlier, or American girls really are THAT bad.
Great posts, one of my favorite on this site.
I dated a 28 year old white American girl like this before moving to Asia.
She was very attractive but something of a band-camp nerd. I met her by volunteering at a Catholic charity that taught English to immigrants.
She was quietly religious, not at all in your face. Although she was a CPA she was not a “I-am-strong-independent-professional-woman-hear-me-roar.” She was more traditional and soft yet not at all a pushover. She liked to cook for me. I’d hang out in the kitchen and we’d talk as she cooked. She was caring and sweet. I went to mass with her a few times (I’m not religious) and she really liked that I was open to learning more about her religion but did not expect me to adhere to it. No drama either.
I broke up with her to seek adventure in Asia. Eventually I married a very sweet and traditional Asian girl. I still think about her sometimes, and that was seven years ago.
I contrast her with two cousins about the same age. Both are the antithesis of feminine. Boozers with mouths like sailors who post drunken photos on Facebook. Neither can cook and are proud of it. They’re not bad people, but what can they offer a man besides a vagina?
They’re not bad people, but what can they offer a man besides a vagina?
STDs, a false rape accusation or paternity fraud?
“Every challenge is a chance for you to grow!” as management books say…
Insightful article, has me reflecting on the rare girls NA girls that fit the type you described. More often than not they were raised humbly in rural or farm environments. These types of women are not raised in NA city environments where man-hating is the order of the day.
So what you are saying is:
American girls are creepy
really really creepy.
fucking righteous post. that is all.
In some ways (and this isn’t always the case, but) the girl with game is the most dangerous of them all. The “typical” narcissistic modern girl will try and get you to mirror her in order to boost her fragile ego. You can see her coming a mile away (as long as you’re not too horny or your self esteem isn’t ravaged). The girl with game on the other hand (a form of narcissism that often goes unnoticed) will try and identify with you (mirror your desires/become what you want/become like you). There is no defense for this except personal growth and experience, and the subtle feeling that you are “losing your ground” (existential guilt).
If she doesn’t risk the ridicule of her friends to be with you, she isn’t the kind of woman you want to be with …
as the kind of woman that has taken advice from girlfriends who want misery shared, is the kind that will make your life a misery … unless those friends are competing for you too.
Many women shouted down Kobe Bryant’s rape accuser … ’cause women would rather have part of a “winner” than all of a “loser”.
I agree, I think sooner or later you have to “risk” yourself for it to really be considered love; even if that risk is the ridicule of friends/acquaintances (but preferably you risk yourself/allow yourself to be truly vulnerable). The dangers of narcissistic mirroring are profound. She never really risks herself so one should always question the authenticity of the relationship (you think she’s there with you but at the crucial moment, she’s a few steps back and not really in the game). Ultimately she still has a damaged ego that she compensates for (at your expense: emotional resources/financial resources/mental resources/physical resources/social resources). She will “guilt” you into submission in part through subtle behaviours, but also because of the reflexive nature of relationships: birds of a feather flock together effect (this submission in part will cause you to “re”assert yourself (in an aggressive manner) further reinforcing your inoculated guilt. She on the other hand, having thus emascualted you, will become a “tyrant” albeit to various “apparent” and “absolute” degrees; her own anger and guilt having submitted/identified with you – but ultimately with her mother – so completely. At this point the relationship is bound to end though a particular kind of woman may linger at the tyrant stage indefinitely. She just needs a trigger: you slip up in some way, you withdraw, a new guy at her work, the way you looked at her at christmas, the shirt you love to wear etc. She ultimately will start the whole process anew, mirroring some unsuspecting guy she admires for his (masculine) “power”.
I personally have chosen to avoid modern women and their destructiveness to the best of my ability. Most hate themselves and because of this, they’ll hate you. After all, how much can you be worth if you desire them when in their minds they’re “the worst of the worst.” To their logic, it follows that you must be even worse off than them! I don’t want to force my ideals on anyone but marriage/cohabitation for me is a big no no!
All women are like that.
I just had sex with absolutely careless French girl a week go.She agreed to go to my place within an hour or so.Her game was to get wasted-I had to stop her actually.
Dutch women-oh well,I dont even want to comment
Germans just approach you straight away if they want to f*ck.They are the most feminine from all of the women in europe,but still have no game.
Russian women do all the same “got too drunk and dont remember who I slept with” while on holidays in Turkey.In fact they organise special “only girls” tours just to f*ck.
Its also very easy to get SNL with a Russian woman in Russia and they have 0 game.
Ukrainians are just plain gold digging whores with 0 game.Nothing is easier than to have SNL with a Ukrainian.
Spanish?Never managed to have a SNL..and perhaps they have mor egame than any european women.But at the end its all the same.
All modern women from not theocratic,non religious countries are the same.
I can say with strong authority that SPANISH WOMEN HAVE TERRIBLE GAME. I’ve had several Spanish female roommates and they were all totally nuts (and easy.) I think the concept of “American girls have no game” generally applies to women from all western countries… including Canada. This girl that Tuth met was a fluke.
By nuts i mean uptight, easily jealous, high maintenance. I think American girls are much more laid back compared to Spanish girls. But, Spanish girls are on average, hotter – or at least put more effort into their appearance. So I think that’s how they get away with it.
I’m going to start off by saying that I’m not being sarcastic but how is this women giving her number to, going out with and going back to the home of a guy feminine when she has a boyfriend. She could still be considering generally good if she was that naive to think that he was really that interested in her book and just wanted to be friends but she wasn’t. Also, you said she knew you weren’t going to be her bf but had sex with you anyways. I agree that attraction happens but promiscuity isn’t feminine. She was sweet in her generous actions but imagine you’re her boyfriend. Would you be comfortable with a girl who you know will go back to a guys place after drinks while you’re still together but only feel bad about physical contact.
The point wasn’t to hold up this girl as an example of a perfect angel. Who could compete with that? The point was to illustrate the massive differences between a less-than-perfect girl from abroad and the less-than-perfect girls I–and other guys in the West–encounter as a matter of course.
Tuthmosis is being kind. Feminine nature is NOT faithful. It is NOT moral. It is a hormonal mess with a Stockholm Syndrome on the side and a hamster in the cockpit. See Briffaults law.
Very interesting post. I’m not very attracted to many American girls, so I speak to a lot of foreign girls and can say that – yes – they are definitely more feminine.
Nice post!
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That, my dear Tuth..was a “unicorn”.
As soon as a woman commoditizes sex, she’s nothing more than a whore and any man should be totting up the accounts spread sheet to make sure he’s getting good value for money.
Let’s face it, unless you are looking for a wife to have kids with (good luck on that one btw.), by the time you take some floozie out to dinner, (2-3 times) buy drinks, club entry, more drinks and lavish treats on her at home, perhaps breakfast the next day, she’s probably run you two or three times the rate of a pro, who will come straight to your door, with one phone call not 10, will give you great massage, better head than any weenie amateur teeny bopper thirty something, god’s gift to men, btch, maybe do some crazy stunts you never imagined before….. and best of all she leaves when you ask her to without question,and comes back again when you are in the mood, not when she wants.
They say you don’t pay a whore to have sex, she enjoys that, you pay her to leave. So guys, be warned when you pay by default instead of by design, the leave when I say part of the unspoken contract has been omitted. She’ll leave to cause maximum damage, try to get more attention or because she’s got a better offer. She’ll cling to you like glue until you go insane or cling until she’s entitled to her unearned half.
Now of course sleeping with pros is a little dry and also comparatively speaking risking diseases, (assuming that girlie friend isn’t humping half the neighborhood), however it is far cheaper, legal, no strings attached, and far better quality sex, than the average “its all about my satisfaction” girlies.
perhaps the future for male female relationships should be some kind of contract for fidelity / payment / sex over a mid term period say 1-2 years. A bit like renting a condo….
rent a wife can be a real hit.
Spot on.
I’m going through the same thing. There’s this girl who is gaming me with the same tactics. The shit is working.
There’s no better game for women than being hot and assuming the role you described above.
It really is fucking with me.
And WHY are you wasting time dating American women? Boycott American Women!
This is easy to say when your balls are empty, or you’re an ocean away. I’m in the trenches. When I’m abroad, I definitely boycott American.
So if you seek out women to use, is it not logical that you’d attract women out to use you?
And *might* it be that the foreign women are users, no different from the Americans? Could it be that they are so nice because they really, really want those naturalization papers?
This article could so easily be about Australian woman. Wretched things that that they are. I didn’t know Americans were that bad. I did know Canadians were great though, all the ones I’d met anyway. Foreign men also acknowledge how awful Aussie once here. Does the same happen in the USA?
I love American girls, you be nice to them and dont act stupid and they change very quickly to being a normal, loving girl
OMG! Its not just me. I have had basically the same things happen to me as in this story. I have been going after Russian and Ukrainian (foreign national types) women for years and even had experiences with several Latino women on vacation here in the US and found the exact same thing. They were very appreciative of anything I did and I did very little except prepare food for our meetings and behave like a gentleman, though an alpha gentleman. I basically couldn’t do any wrong with these women and they were very pleased to claim ownership or me when we went out and made sure I knew they were with me when we arrived home. I have never had an American woman ever act anything except bored or spoiled and entitled with me. Couldn’t figure this one out until I read the blog; Thank you! I know now I’m not crazy.
Tuthmosis, are you black?
So true, so very true. Once you experience it, you just can’t deal with shit. One of my most popular posts, among men and women, is The power of a woman’s submissiveness [ http://taoofdirt.wordpress.com/2011/07/04/the-power-of-a-womans-submissiveness/ ]. Some women just know this instinctively, or were raised that way. For some, they need to learn the game of it. Those women that embrace it wield something the coldhearted beeyotches do not, and never can.
Maybe because im Canadian that half this site seems unneeded or sad, or simply doesnt make sense.
Amen.
I actually found this article rather informative and inspiring. As a 21 year old girl who’s somewhat clueless after a long-term relationship, I’m not sure how to act with tact sometimes. I think I have this ongoing debate with myself on how blunt and open I should be about things. From the limited experience I have, I think I do agree with what the American stereotype of women, as I’ve been dating this German guy who’s been giving me subtle hints about what to do or say (nothing too overt or insulting, just little things that give me an indication of preference, and it seems to me that these hints kind of add up to how a non-American woman would act, as portrayed in this article).
It’s also nice to see the concept of ‘girl game’ as something to work towards to, (as reading up articles regarding “the Wall” can get kind of depressing after a while, despite the truth in it, and women who read it might end up feeling like they have no ‘goal’ to work towards to, so they resign to just ignoring the concept). Thanks!
To the Author – You are an idiot if you think you can lump an entire country’s women into one category. Stop generalizing and start appreciating people for their individual uniqueness…
So did you chase down this Canadian girl and marry her, or what?
I’m turning 27 this June. Scary, don’t you think? Nah. I’m smart enough to know that girls these days are full of crap. Most of them. Perhaps going outside the Greater Toronto Area would be of great help. Man, I can’t wait to leave. Montreal is the only place in Canada to meet a girl … that’s a fact. Montreal has a European vibe and the social scene is WAY better than stinky Toronto. Canada, I’m sorry to say, is becoming a lot like America when it comes to dating and game.
If this is your opinion on American women then it’s a good thing I have self-worth outside of what another person (especially one I don’t even know) thinks of me~*~
No you don’t.
Its clear that your a stupid prick who the “good women” don’t want to bother with. Why do you think the good American women don’t like you? Because your a low life piece of shit who is just a woman hater. Your sexist, which is not surprising considering this blog is part of a completely sexist website. Get a life, if you dislike American women so much then leave. Leave us the fuck alone because we don’t like you either.
your = you’re
Shhh..no tears now Shana.
Wow, Shana, you pretty much just proved the writer’s point. Ew.
What a waste of time.
Oh there was a game being played here by her. But it wasn’t something innate to this girl. She was very nice and accommodating because of guilt. That’s all, plain and simple guilt. She’s off, far from home, with a boyfriend waiting, but once she got the ‘gina tingles she decided to go for them. Whatever her self image she didn’t want to think of herself as a cock hound, so she plays up the relationship aspects of this interaction. I am sure back home she is the same ungracious self-centered female you find most women to be.
“Asian” girls….Chinese don’t look ANYTHING like Japanese, and the Malays, and others, don’t look anything like Chinese or Japanese either. There are MANY Asian countries that are not mostly Muslim…in fact most Asian countries are not Muslim.
I don’t see how anyone can say they don’t like Asians…..it is too broad a group of people…it is like saying you don’t like Europeans…they are a VERY diverse group!
Most American women have an entitlement-mentality because they have the pussy-card which gets them anything they want.
Then they expect to trade it in for a wife-card before it expires.
Haha that’s pretty on point!
This article is so obnoxious. American men are the douchiest, most ungentlemanly men on the planet, but they’re also the most likely to respect a woman’s career and goals. That’s our American culture; that is what makes both genders different from any other nationalities. men who don’t like American women are looking for traditional women. men who love American women love our drive, ambition and honesty. I’ve met plenty of guys who are attracted to me, but the only ones it ever gets serious with are a certain type who like the no bullshit attitude.
Talk about something that is actually worth reading that will stimulate my brain! American girls have no game? Ha, I think this blog has no game. You have a “voice” online, and think that it’s relevant because idiots follow you, and read your crap that has no meaning. Talk about issues that are going to improve the human race stooooooooooopid!!! SMH … it’s blogs like these that make Americans look stupid. Feed the internet bullshit, and feel superior dude, way to go! Yay “Return of Kings” woo (2 thumbs down)
sounds to me like she didn’t break up with her boyrfriend but had a little thing with you while she was in the country. She knew she was going back to Canada so why would she leave him?
Hey, I’m a gay male and I disagree with you. Ban me, faggots.
Very true many Americans, both male and female, have lost touch with some set of dating and behavioral moral sensibilities. Not many have experienced “home training”anymore, regardless of the family income base. Being an American female myself, I can say those who act with couth, are out there and it’s usually by introduction you get to them and they to similar minded males…or you get lucky after searching and maintaining your own sense of honor and loving qualities.
And yet, despite being all nice and sweet and domestic, she was nothing but a casual screw in the end – her high honours is being “kinda sorta missed.” Whoop-de-doo. So it’s not like having this sort of “game” actually got her any further than American girls. The thing is, if you are looking for women who are willing to give casual sex on the first date, you’re caliber of girl isn’t going to be very high, nor should it be. Even sweet Canadian girl – she was clearly friendly, but in the end she was a girl who went out on a date while having a boyfriend, dumped her boyfriend, and was in bed with a new guy a couple days later. Pure class. If you were actually wanting a relationship, is that the sort of girl you’d like to be dating?
Girls who have game use it to garner commitment and lasting relationships. They’re not interested in giving bowls of guac to guys they know are only with them because there is either a necessary expiration date to their “relationship,” or are going toss them out soon if not. The fact of the matter is, if a girl is only interested in sex, there are generally going to be a lot of character flaws along with that, and sweetness, true femininity, class, etc., are going to be lacking. Because if all they want is a casual screw, those nice things aren’t really going to get them much more of that. It will happen anyhow.
Women put forth effort when it seems like there will be a return investment on it. If you were looking to actually meet nice girls, I don’t think it would be hard. But you’re not. You’re looking to meet cheap girls, and expecting them to be susie-homemakers in the process. And yes, it turns out at least one girl out there is like that, and she’s from Canada (also, I will point out you have had exactly one awesome Canadian girl, and while I fully believe the possibility that foreign girls have better manners in general, you don’t actually have enough empirical evidence to assert that with any certainty from your limited interactions with them). She put in the effort, the investment, and she got sent along her way like a bag of potatoes for it. In my opinion, that makes her a chump, but hey, who’s to say.
A plaintive article about women with their head up their ass written by a man with his head up his ass.
Maybe if your idea of “picking up” an American girl involved a little more tact than following slowly behind her as she walks honking, “(H)ey, ey, ey, I like your dog. Ey, ey, want to hang out. Why not? Why not? Want to hang out. Ey, ey, I’m talking to you.”
– She seems like a lovely girl, And saying “thank you” for things is good manners. That, I grant you, is very attractive, and something one doesn’t always find in women of any nationality.
– She left you with “no tears and not an ounce of drama” because she didn’t care about you. At all. It seems like you prefer that, so this may have been a good arrangement for you.
– Men who prefer women who don’t feel anything for them after sex should probably consider dating men instead, for whom that kind of behavior is by no means universal, but certainly more common. Just a thought.
– What you liked was not her feminine energy, her femininity, which also comes with all that emotion and vulnerability you don’t like – it was her masculinity, her ability to compartmentalize. See above suggestion re: dating men.
– This woman who “cracked your hard exterior” also has no problem cheating on her boyfriend with some guy she just met. Before you get too woozy about missing her you might stop to wonder how you’d feel if she were your girlfriend and you had no idea who she might be making guacamole for when she was out of town. In fact, she is probably making guacamole for someone else tonight.
– Giving you back the identical toothbrush you gave her was her way of telling you that she knows you’re a revolving door and clearing herself of any obligation to you. I suspect you like that also. You may believe that keeping spare toothbrushes around for conquests is polite, but to a girl it feels a bit more like being at a hotel where the bathroom cups come wrapped in plastic: you know you’re just another customer.
– She made guacamole because women actually do enjoy pleasing, and with you, she doesn’t have to worry that you might take advantage of her generosity or kindness and make her feel like a chump for it later, because she:
– Does not care about you. She will never get mad a you, never cry at the thought of losing you, never feel jealous, never value you more than anyone else. If that is what melts your apparently icy bachelor heart, you wouldn’t be the first.
You should have done everything in your power then to keep that Canadian girl.
I think this guy is just reflecting on his own life.
Man does this article hit a lot of right notes. “There’s a myth that a girl just has to “look cute” and show up” is right on! Also that simply “Being naked” constitutes “seduction” or “foreplay”.
Maybe you just hang around with slutty/ trashy girls.
Thanks for your insight! I feel I have more confidence in dating now. I think America in general sends a social message that feelings don’t matter much. It’s probably why everyone is on psych meds and lonely. I’ve spent so much of my life building a wall around myself, I’ve forgotten how to feel.
I think I felt betrayed so much in high school for being punished for what felt like simply existing, I lost my ability to trust anyone. Your article gave me hope that not all is not lost. American society acts like sensitivity and kindness is a weakness, it screws everyone up.
That was a good read thanks 🙂
I am a girl and I can agree with this article! Though I am American, both my parents are foreign and I feel that when compared to my American friends I do act differently. I agree that us American women should be more greatful, sweet and willing to replace something that was given to us. However to me these things are just “good manners” and should be used on daily basis. Just because we are in the age where women want to be “strong and independent” it doesn’t mean we should lose kindness and not be thankful. That’s just rude!
Omg. You. Are a huge dick…It actually terrifies me there are people like you in the world. Women have fucking feelings you dumbass, and I’m positive they feel a lot more then you do, so far all I’ve seen you feel is lust. Can you do the world a favor and keep your dick in your pants?
I loved this article and I thank you for writing it. And, being a woman, I feel you are looking in all the wrong places for women, Tuthmosis. Have you ever been to Nebraska? Come visit and let me know if you have better luck with the opposite sex here. Good, wholesome, feminine girls with morals and values are few and far between. But I have found some awesome friends here in this state and the states surrounding that, I feel, might be keepers/what you are looking for in a woman. Right here in America! Maybe it is all in location. Stop dating the plastic shells of women on the west coast and venture out a bit. You may be surprised what you find in the place they call “The Good Life.”
Even if there are good wholesome traditional women in one location that also leaves room for the exact opposite type of woman. And now they are harder to spot due to the fact that they are masters at blending in and masking true colors with mirror reflections of actual good women.
I loved this article and I thank you for writing it. And, being a woman, I feel you are looking in all the wrong places for women, Tuthmosis. Have you ever been to Nebraska? Come visit and let me know if you have better luck with the opposite sex here. Good, wholesome, feminine girls with morals and values are few and far between. But I have found some awesome friends here in this state and the states surrounding that, I feel, might be keepers/what you are looking for in a woman. Right here in America! Maybe it is all in location. Stop dating the plastic shells of women on the west coast and venture out a bit. You may be surprised what you find in the place they call “The Good Life.”
I loved this article and I thank you for writing it. And, being a woman, I feel you are looking in all the wrong places for women, Tuthmosis. Have you ever been to Nebraska? Come visit and let me know if you have better luck with the opposite sex here. Good, wholesome, feminine girls with morals and values are few and far between. But I have found some awesome friends here in this state and the states surrounding that, I feel, might be keepers/what you are looking for in a woman. Right here in America! Maybe it is all in location. Stop dating the plastic shells of women on the west coast and venture out a bit. You may be surprised what you find in the place they call “The Good Life.”
I loved this article and I thank you for writing it. And, being a woman, I feel you are looking in all the wrong places for women, Tuthmosis. Have you ever been to Nebraska? Come visit and let me know if you have better luck with the opposite sex here. Good, wholesome, feminine girls with morals and values are few and far between. But I have found some awesome friends here in this state and the states surrounding that, I feel, might be keepers/what you are looking for in a woman. Right here in America! Maybe it is all in location. Stop dating the plastic shells of women on the west coast and venture out a bit. You may be surprised what you find in the place they call “The Good Life.”
I loved this article and I thank you for writing it. And, being a woman, I feel you are looking in all the wrong places for women, Tuthmosis. Have you ever been to Nebraska? Come visit and let me know if you have better luck with the opposite sex here. Good, wholesome, feminine girls with morals and values are few and far between. But I have found some awesome friends here in this state and the states surrounding that, I feel, might be keepers/what you are looking for in a woman. Right here in America! Maybe it is all in location. Stop dating the plastic shells of women on the west coast and venture out a bit. You may be surprised what you find in the place they call “The Good Life.”
I loved this article and I thank you for writing it. And, being a woman, I feel you are looking in all the wrong places for women, Tuthmosis. Have you ever been to Nebraska? Come visit and let me know if you have better luck with the opposite sex here. Good, wholesome, feminine girls with morals and values are few and far between. But I have found some awesome friends here in this state and the states surrounding that, I feel, might be keepers/what you are looking for in a woman. Right here in America! Maybe it is all in location. Stop dating the plastic shells of women on the west coast and venture out a bit. You may be surprised what you find in the place they call “The Good Life.”
Perhaps women have a cold and uninterested attitude because that is the same shit that you give them to work with. With disgusting men like you dropping them after the first date, it’s no wonder that a woman who is after a relationship is going to be guarded when dealing with a serial-fucking piece of shit like you.
This is a great article, and actually pretty sweet. I know personally I tend to opt towards the relationship with a girl because the hook ups/hanging out with a girl without the relationship can be really cold.
American girls seem to view sex as a transaction, that it’s simply their part, and that’s all the have to do. “Now treat me like a princess!!”
Really, these cold girls just don’t have game. I hope I don’t have to travel too far to find a wonderful girl like Tuthmosis found.
Yep! You get what you “pay” for.
This is a great article. I would say I act like the Canadian girl in all my encounters and my girl friends tell me I have no game. Glad to read they are wrong from a dudes perspective.
i really liked the article but i just wanted to ask whats wrong with someone telling you a bit of back story? i couldnt understand why the girl that mentioned going to turkey with an ex boyfriend bothered you, those are the kinds of stories people tell eachother when getting to know one another?
What a great article, thank you very much for sharing.
This is bs. The only reason most Girls are not all sweet and nurturing is because some dick stepped on their emotions and called them “clingy” or “needy” when they were just being their womanly self and expressing vulnerability. Men are supposed to be the ones who lead the women and if they fail to do this and make a women feel weird for being nurturing simply because he is incapable of being in touch with his own emotions then he inadvertently teaches women to mistrust him. Then we put a whole tonne of walls up. I guarantee you American and Canadian women would love to let their nurturing side show a little more often but unless we feel safe then it scares the hell out of us and we would rather not get hurt for being nice. Makes a lot more sense to protect that nurturing side of us for when the time and person is right. Don’t expect me to cater to you and then be treated like a sub-par second class citizen because you ‘suddenly’ get the notion that you can do better or it’s not worth it because you didn’t have to work for it. I think what the author of this article fails to point out is that his situation was exceptional in the sense that she knew she was coming in and out of his life without a sense of permanency so fuck it why not be super nice, there’s no big scary potential relationship and intimacy to be worried about. Easy when the pressure is taken off and fears removed. I’m sure if you threw this wonder women in a different situation with a different man in her home town it would a whole different ball game.
And as a side note to all you men that are black and white thinkers, I’ll let you in on a little secret… The bitchy women and the sweet girl are the same woman… You just choose to see her in whatever light serves you best… And accordingly teach her how to treat you thus getting whatever results and feedback fit in with your beliefs and reality of the world.
Dude, I’m in Toronto. Hook me up with this gal, I’ve thought a lot about this subject.
I have found that Eastern European women think much longer and harder about how to be a great wife. North American women are so wrapped up in ‘finding the one’ that they spend almost no time thinking about how to make their man happy beyond looking pretty.
And I’ll go out on a limb here to throw another grenade into the mix:
Why can’t the decent ones fuck? Anytime I’ve dated a nice, intelligent and interesting gal they’ve always been mediocre at best in the sack. Want a great, charming and fun man? Learn how to blow him into the next century. Read a few books, go to a seminar, quiz your gay friends and fucking practice. If I could find an amazing woman who could actually fuck like a slut I’d be hooked for life.
When I first read peoples comments before i read the article I got pissed off. But when I read the article I have to agree. This article is slightly on point. BUT not all American girls are like that. You sir have gone out with all the wrong ones. Reason why I say this, my best friend would go on dates and pull all the shenanigans you described. I go out on dates and leave the child’s play alone, those guys I never hear back from. I never (far as I know of) said anything to weird a guy out. As an American woman (not a girl I have my big girl panties) I would never pull that shit on a guy. I openly tell a dude if I’m thinking of him or if I was talking about him to my friends or family but not the creepy kind of way. When I make plans I stick to them. I use my manners and so on and so forth. Regardless best of luck finding the right one. She’s a needle in a haystack.
As an American woman with game, I can graciously thank both my mama, for imparting her wisdom, and my man, for being Every Bit of a man worthy of thanks! I feel inclined to thank him all the time. I grimaced while reading about these all-too-easy “American” girls…where’s the hunt? The fun? The game?! Too many People (men & women) are becoming lazy, easy and b-o-r-i-n-g. Seeking that I.G. – Instant Gratification. Create some mystery, my goodness, if you don’t have any other appeal!
Personally, I like to rock sexy dresses, stilettos, have some shots, curse a few times and get crazy occasionally but it is Not the norm. Many of these girls are making these routines their norm. A small part of my game, that I’m willing to reveal, is that I always cross my legs (“like a lady”), give undivided attention to anyone I’m speaking with, be polite toward all, generously smile and Maintain that often-sought-rarely-found womanly demeanor. It isn’t limited to old world thinking…and can certainly be adopted by American women. That’s just the start of my “game”, if you will…ladies, I’d encourage you to stop putting out so desperately. And to the men reading this: If you’re a gentleman, you Will attract a lady. It’s inevitable.
Admittedly, I thoroughly enjoyed reading this and am a “fan” of Tuthmosis’ articles…however brash, they make me laugh. Interesting perspectives!
Is your Head Game on Point?
‘”I got sex. And that’s all.” Seems to me like that’s all you wanted. They gave you what you wanted so why are you hating on and whinging about them so much? Because they weren’t ‘nice’ to you? Because they didn’t thank you for only seeing them as holes? Because they didn’t thank you for your ‘kind gestures’, ie, actions and behaviour with the sole purpose of getting sex from the girl and not for the purpose of being nice for the sake of it or being ‘chivalrous’ (no matter how much you tell yourself you are). And then you get churlish because the girl doesn’t fawn, having encountered too many arseholes with a hidden agenda to fall for it. You are just as shallow and disgusting as the women you talk about. Man or woman, maybe Americans are just all douchebags? Or maybe it’s the dating culture in America, if you got to know someone first and then took them on a date because yiu genuinely lijed them and enjiyed their company, perhaps theyd read your ‘kind gestures’ differently and see you more as a human being and less as a calculating dog with a hard on.
One thing is lacking in this article that I need to point out. Your girl from Canada who treated you well…how did you treat her with the same attention she treated you, apart from remarking about her freshly shaved coochie?? A lot of women who would be kindhearted are treated by the guys they show kindness to really badly or dismissively. She replaces your toothbrush and makes you fresh guacamole and forgives your lateness. Were you as kind to her?
Well, what did you do for any of the American women who slept with you? Sounds like you went out looking for a good time and picked up people who were also looking for a good time. It doesn’t make any of them a slut by any means. They found someone they like, pursued them, and went home with them, same game plan that you had, apparently.
The whole time I was reading your story about the Canadian girl I kept thinking “Man! I wish there were more girls like that in the world”. So it goes without saying that I agree with everything you said here. It’s disheartening to see how the majority of women lack such basic social skills. And I’m an aspie saying that! That’s gotta speak volumes. I can’t even begin to tell you how many women have lost my interest because they were cold fish and didn’t have any feminine warmth to speak of. Just recently I was “talking” to a girl who definitely had chick game. She was always warm and engaging even via text message. She would do the little things like include smileys in her texts and give me positive feedback. She would always end our conversations by saying things like “goodnight handsome! :)” or “I really enjoyed talking to you!” And here’s the kicker… She even initiated contact with me a few times and that really made me happy because chicks never do that. They leave all the work for the man. Needless to say talking to her always made me feel good and she definitely kept me interested in her. Sadly I fucked it all up because of my lack of game. I am still kicking myself over losing her. I believe my experience with her is a good example of how chicks with game are dangerous. Chicks with game can easily disarm a man and make him lose his game. And once that happens she is gone. I think it’s very important to avoid getting comfortable and letting your game slip when you are dealing with these girls. The fact is these girls are rare in the west so you don’t want to blow it when you have one in your sights.
My now Wife had good game and continues to have it. This is why she is my Wife and not my plate…Of course she is – You Guessed it – Not American…
As an American woman, I would like to say it’s a relief to read your article. Although I do feel the lack of respect/manners spans across both genders, it is far more prevalent amongst women. It is painful to see the way many women strut around, self-entitled and unappreciative towards anyone and anything. To be honest, I had myself convinced that this asinine behavior went unnoticed by most; like it was just the way of the world and nobody else paid any mind. It is so good to read that compassion and kind gestures are not only noticed, but appreciated. For once, I feel the vain and wanton women of this country have been accurately represented. Thank you.
Game= being and looking nice. Its not complicated, people!
It also helps to have charm, charisma and excellent communication skills lol
This remind me of that weird summer where everybody I knew at school was literally fucking each other. Backstabbing was common for everyone. I had to do it too. You would be suprised what you can get away with when having no empathy. There was the psycho church girl, the boy toy, the male prostitute friend, and a bunch of bisexuals. You get cheated, you cheat, you make a deal with a slut. Make money.
It is true that a lot of american girls have a sense of entitlement when it comes to dating, the guy drives, pays etc. If your lucky you might get a thank you in the form of a physical tryst at dates end providing you are both “vibing” on each other and things are flowing right. But genuine thanks and whole hearted appreciation voiced verbally? Pretty rare. I think this stems from the throngs of “thirsty” males that continually pamper and spend money on women like a date is their “birthday”. They get accustomed to this sort of treatment and expect it. It’s par for the course. That’s why you can’t fall into this habit. If your just looking to get laid and pay for dinner,the movie and rent a hotel for the night you might as well just hire a prostitute because that is what you just did. You will be lucky to get any sort of gratitude because you got what you paid for. You have to approach with a different attitude and agenda if you want a different result. You can always spot the “your taking me out type” of female a mile away. It’s in what they say and talk about way before the two of you even go out. It’s up to you to decide whether to turn that key and drive out it.
its because the good ol US&A is a huge sausagefest full of ugly women. The young outgoing women are far outnumbered but males (I am not taking about general gender ratio statistics that includes old 50+ yo widows but datable younger women). typical American bar will be packed with 30 dudes and maybe 15 women on a good night. Out of those 15, ten will be fatties and another 2-3 in LTR just having a good night out. So for the remaining couple attractive girls, does it make sense for them to have any game when they will get swarmed around by dudes like flys around fresh pile of cr#p
Bitches ain’t shit but hoes and tricks
Wow, I have always worried about not being charming or being able to flirt, but I do all of these things naturally. I always thought serious boyfriends were strange for being so into me right off the bat (they would say things like “I’ve never felt this way before” in the first month), but after years of observing my peers I realize nowadays my behavior is not typical.
I’ve got a great boyfriend who I’ve dated for several years and intend to settle down with. I’m an ex-feminist who’s been reading this and other men’s rights activists sites to try to understand both sides of the culture war I saw play out in college and thereafter. It’s interesting to hear what “game” means from a male perspective.
American women go into a psychopathic state of paranoia of “what should I say?” Vs “what shouldn’t I say,” then end up saying something similar to what a man would say. Today, I am impressed if a girl can refrain from sailor mouth, obnoxious forced laugh, not afraid to show some enthusiasm toward you and refrain from some gawd awful street jargon that I’m not familiar with, nor do I care to “learn,” as my dad would simply say, “talk about nice things,” and 1. Be polite.
I was talking to a girl last year and I heard her say, “well, I asked if you wanted to go to such and such restaurant but that idea got 86’d.” 86’d? Really? Yeah, I figured out what she meant but all I wanted to do was give her the Crocodile Dundee test and grab her crotch after that.
Being a feminine woman is the best “game” that can be run, but unfortunately we have been taught not to trust men at all.
Phew. Hadn’t read anything from what used to be called the Manosophere in ages. That’s the kind of dead on, feels so good to hear it, so right you can’t believe no one else seems to know it truth that I miss so much. It’s true – American women just plain fucking SUCK as women, as human beings- Hell, they wouldn’t even serve as halfway decent dogs. They’re worthless. Rude, selfish, clueless, ugly, manly, totally – whatever is the dead opposite of charming, that is what they are. Well said- American men may not have much game but God damn is there a girl in this country worth trying for? I married a nice Asian girl, and this may not be a manly thing to say but she is my fucking hero believe me. I thank God every day for her when I see what utter trash better men than me are left with.