Women lie. They lie easily, often, and without any sense of guilt. This is all easy and rather fun to prove which I’ll show you later. The question that lingers in the air, like smoke, is how do they live with themselves given the blatant immorality of what they’re up to?
I struggled with this after I discovered my first wife was someone’s mistress at the time I married her, and that she continued in that role until her lover divorced his wife; at which point she left me and married him. My marriage was apparently used as leverage to torpedo the ex-wife. I drove round to the house he bought for her after the nuptials, big and solid as a brick shithouse.
My second wife used to give blowjobs to my cameraman in the parking lot of the television station we both worked for while I was in the editing booth. How did she keep the smirk out of her eyes later? That’s the question I’m about to answer.
The key to understanding this is to realize that all women today are the daughters of slaves; slaves both in the physical sense and mental sense. Until a hundred years ago, women were chattel and were passed from father to husband at a public ceremony called a wedding. All the aggressive, self-aware, moral women were long since gone; killed in disputes with their partners or the enemies of their family and tribe. The rest greeted their conquerors as heroes, threw flowers at them and opened their legs.
As slaves, women developed a kind of prisoner mentality: no snitching with the guards, secret codes, networking, compartmentalization of thought. This went on for generations, decades, millennia, until we arrive at today where these patterns of thought and actions are genetic as well as cultural. Women live in a world of compartments. They have one for their partner, a second for their female friends, a third for a lover, and a fourth for their imagination. Actually, they can expand that number easily to create a separate box for every one of their relationships.
They way they manage to live with themselves, questioned above, is to believe that nothing that happens in one compartment impacts anything in any other compartment. So, since an affair is in a separate box from a marriage, there’s no moral problem involved. What he doesn’t know won’t hurt him is what they believe. If an infidelity were to occur in the husband box, let’s say with a mutual friend, well then there would be a crisis, but not of morality, but rather practicality. Her first reaction would be anger at whoever called her out, and secondly, ‘Where do I live now?’
Consider the issue of privacy. It’s a very big issue for women. They hate it, loathe it, if a former boyfriend shows up during a new relationship. He is immediately accused of “stalking” her or worse. The very last thing any woman wants is for a former flame to have a chat with a current lover. All her lies would be exposed immediately; so bad mouth him on social media, threaten to get him fired, apply for a restraining order, make “revenge porn” illegal; anything and everything to keep the boxes separate.
This is why when you ask a woman to tell you about herself, she’s momentarily stumped for an answer. Which of her many stories should she give you? Quel problème.
I said earlier I’d show you proof of how women lie. Here’s the first proof: ask your girlfriend how many men she’s slept with. She won’t tell you; that’s private. Actually, she won’t tell you because if she did you’d be appalled at the number, the age of the partners, the sexual games they played, and the number of times money or favors were exchanged. What do I mean by that last crack? I mean that trips, apartment loans, car rides and clothing went one way and sex went the other. Yes, from your little Betty. Shocking, I know.
Secondly, listen closely when a friend or family member asks your partner to come over, join them for an event, or go to choir practice. She’ll say she has a cold, a previous appointment or her period, but that she’d love to join her some other time. The mother-in-law or girlfriend is mollified, and your honey will go on with her day as if nothing has happened. As is always the case with women, a little white lie is easier than honesty if it smooths over a potential social conflict.
Here’s a third proof. Listen to a woman describe a major event you both lived through, like a boat capsizing, a fight at a bar or a bride throwing up at the reception. Look for exaggeration for effect. Once you do it will stand out like a sore thumb. Women not only lie, they exaggerate everything. And exaggeration is just another form of lying.
Your girl is different— she’d never lie
Back to wife number two. When I demanded an explanation for her adultery, she demanded to know who told me. I give her a name. “That bitch,” she shouted. “I’ll scratch her eyes out.”
Note that the issue wasn’t that she’d cheated on me—it was that her girlfriend had told me. The girlfriend had broken the prisoner taboo; snitching to the guard. The girlfriend had breached the invisible barrier that separates one female box from another.
In my whole life, that young woman stands out as exceptional, as an exception to the rule that women lie. She told me what was going on because my wife was planning to have her lover’s baby and call it mine. That was a bridge too far for the girlfriend, who spilled the beans.
Thank you, Ruth, wherever you are.
Read More: The 7 Most Common Lies Women Tell In A Relationship
Yeah, because you kitty’s are only attracted to bad boys, liars or rich men which are about less then 5% of white males and to the black clowns. So the rest of the (about 95%) whites they never have access to your stinky pussy unless they pay. So much, for good and honest men.
American women eat too much GMO beef and drink too much beer their farts and shit stinks terrible!
to think I have been trying, and failing to embed into and office job.
Must maintain self-employment – no matter what.
Long time before the swamp is drained if the marines are subject to feminist nonsense
https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/your-marine-corps/2018/08/30/26-meu-battalion-commander-fired-during-deployment-over-equal-opportunity-concerns/
Not ALL women are chronic liars, but the article is certainly on point about most women. Any guy with even an ounce of social experience with women will come to this realization. I’ve learned that many women, at best exaggerate and at worst make shit up. The male perspective of truth, integrity, and honor simply doesn’t apply to most women as they subscribe to a different interpretation of these values. For example, a woman won’t tell a man the whole truth because she justifies it as to avoid hurting his feelings or upsetting him. To sift the liars from the honest ones, research “how to catch a liar.” There’s tons of good tips on how to do this.
If you have a good mother, you can be honest with her and know that she has your best interest at heart.
As for the rest of the females in your life, especially romantic interests, being economical with the truth I have found helps more than it hinders. I’m talking about exaggeration, ommission, white lies and indifference. That’s because most women want to be lied to subconsciously, and get bored with full disclosure.
I don’t take most women very seriously, until they prove me otherwise.
“That’s because most women want to be lied to subconsciously, and get bored with full disclosure.”
This sentence is my take-way from this entire discussion.
Speaking as an old guy with over 40 years of history of dealing with adult women, I must say I believe this to be true. And it really is subconscious, as virtually all women will pass a polygraph stating that they want men to be honest with them and hate men that are liars, while their actions demonstrate the reality that they reward male dishonesty and punish full disclosure.
Giving women political power always spells the end for a country.
Almost as bad as (((them))).
Every.
Single.
Time.
I was hanging out with a Stripper last weekend who dances in the US and is Lawyer in Brazil. Another one dances at Night time and works in Human Resources during the day at a respectable company. I found it comical. They were both nice women, but They’re all whores fellas, To think otherwise is ideal but I won’t fall for the trap so in 10 years time I can get divorced rape and loose all my earnings. Family no longer means anything. I’m gonna be a loner the rest of my life and I’m learning to love it.
How are those women whores?
Sounds as if they’re merely hustling idiots, w/o even putting out (or at least not for $$$$)
I like to go the titty bar after I bang a hooker, what a sucker I am along with the other alpha NFL stars who show up as well and take them home because they got the money.
You can seduced strippers too if you have game, money and status. And no, not all strippers are gutter trash depending on what bar you go to. Both girls I were talking to did escort work here and there.
I get it if it’s not you’re thing, but I don’t do traditional dating.
My moto is and someone TM me on this because it’s mine and I used it on my online dating profiles. “First Date’s The Hotel” If they don’t like it, BUH-BYE
Women lie because they have evolved to communicate covertly and they want their cake and eat it too. Women have a different understanding of “morality” than men, and lying is far more acceptable to them. Part of this is to protect their inflated egos, and part of it is to convince themselves that they are protecting the male ego.
Since I’m now a pragmatist rather than the idealist I used to be, I don’t have as many problems stretching the truth with women either. I’m not promoting pathological lying here, just mirror their behaviour. In fact, its quite pragmatic in life to stretch the truth. Just think of job interviews, dates and marketing. Any high value man understands this the more he interacts with women. You can conflate confidence with this sort of behaviour. Don’t be a chump.
I’ve never seen the benefit in stretching the truth – in fact experiences from fairly early on in life taught me that there’s no surer way to end up dissatisfied. If I have to stretch the truth in order to get a job or a boyfriend, there’s a darn good chance I’m not pursuing suitable opportunities. If I have to stretch the truth to sell something, there’s a darn good chance the product I’m selling is garbage. I don’t understand how anyone has the patience to hold any position in life, work, etc. that requires any measure of deceit to maintain. The truth is always quick and easy, and anyone who isn’t interested in the truth can go find someone else to lie to them. I guess this is why I used to assume that most people were honest: I cannot wrap my head around the motivation for lying.
I am a very direct person usually, I say the truth and don’t give a shit about the blowback.
What I’m referring to here is difficult to explain. Its more of a “mindset” to have.
Just think of what polite “society” is. Its a facade we all maintain so our inner beastly natures do not come out of hand. You implicitly understand this social contract, as do I. Its necessary for maintaining a “society”. I despised such facades for a long time, but with life experience I have come to appreciate the purpose of this has, given how many “interesting characters” you meet. Now, you could call this “deceit”, and it is. So you could argue that our society is based fundamentally on deceit, in order to maintain order.
Now let me ask you this….would you want your potential boyfriend to spill his guts out and be honest about everything before you have developed feelings for him?
Would you want to hire someone for a job if they gloat to you about their facebook addiction, inability to work with Asians and passive-aggressive tendencies?
The truth is, lying is in our nature because we are self-interested creatures. Don’t take this as me promoting bad behaviour, I’m merely a red-pilled pragmatist.
Would I want a potential boyfriend to be honest about everything before developing feelings? That’s actually a tough question to answer because I’ve never dated in any conventional/modern sense – so I’ve never really had that blank slate/getting-to-know-you-as-a-stranger experience.
The few romantic relationships I’ve had all grew out of pre-existing associations of a few months at minimum, so it’s probably safe to say I like to have a little more backstory and honesty than most before I let the feelings take hold.
There’s also a difference between stretching the truth, and taking care with the timing of it. My fiance could have stretched the truth and told me he hasn’t been with anyone else since we got together (practically true since there was just one girl one time really shortly after we got together and were not really formally dating yet), or he could have held off on telling me until later if I ever asked (arguably “more honest”). Neither of those things would constitute a horrible lie in my book. But instead he told me about it the morning after it happened (not apologetically, just frankly). Maybe that’s the wrong move with most women, but it was the best move with me. That man is a refreshing pillar of blunt honesty in a world full of people who are just trying to paint a more appealing image of themselves.
As for hiring… I try not to do too much of that, but when it comes to undesirable traits that MOST PEOPLE possess in some form or another, I’m not going to pass over someone for being aware of those things and acknowledging them if I think they’re a solid candidate otherwise. And I have just enough experience hiring from the general population to know that most of the best-presented resumes are heavily embellished.
I get what you’re saying – really, I do. Manipulating the truth is how a lot of people get by. But so far I’ve found that honesty works just fine, too – and suits me far better.
Hello Kitty,
I suspect you’re an awful nagging, mouthy bitch that doesn’t like sex very much. Divorced your husband and took the kids, nothing new, we’ve seen it all before, nobody believes your lies, AWALT.
Hi John!
I can understand why you would be inclined to think that. It’s very common for people to project their own traits (positive or negative) onto other people. Does it make you feel better about yourself to deny the possibility that there are any decent, honest women out there? Whatever helps you sleep at night, I guess.
Well, I like you anyway; you give me lots of attention.
I mean, shoot. I’m certainly not perfect. I was fat and poorly dressed for most of my young life, I’ve always been socially awkward, I’ve had more than one friend affectionately refer to me as “autistic as fuck,” I swear too much, and I use the hems of my dresses like hand towels… but every record stands to show that I am honest and fair, only mouthy on the internet, and I like sex more than most people. And because that’s the actual truth, my self-image doesn’t depend on anyone believing it. *shrug*
Other people lie like mofo’s. If you don’t, you’ll be played to no end. That’ll happen, even if you DO lie. But at least you rack up some wins. If you’re brutally honest, you’ll end up with a horrible batting average in life.
Lots of confusing comments here…
Facts is, there’s no such thing as an honest woman. Anywhere. Ever.
Sure, maybe more honest than others, but only men are capable of being totally honest, because we think idealistic.
Women think realistically, practically.
This is why they never invent.
And an honest man is rare, because truth is often unpleasant and inconvenient.
Fuck em.
And only keep em if you have no choice.
27 Behold, this have I found, saith the preacher, counting one by one, to find out the account:
28 Which yet my soul seeketh, but I find not: one man among a thousand have I found; but a woman among all those have I not found.
29 Lo, this only have I found, that God hath made man upright; but they have sought out many inventions.
One man among a thousand upright, yet not a single woman. That women are liars a cheats is a long and well-known fact.
Hey, I liked this article – really entertaining.
This is the stuff and quality, why I still reading ROK.
My favorite quote was: “Back to wife number two. When I demanded an explanation for her adultery, she demanded to know who told me. I give her a name. “That bitch,” she shouted. “I’ll scratch her eyes out.”
Note that the issue wasn’t that she’d cheated on me—it was that her girlfriend had told me. ”
Epic !
A little long. I flew across the country from Washington State to Florida to see the woman I loved, although I know now she’s not worth it. She’s a physician, however, we all understand that having an advanced degree doesn’t correlate with having your shit together. Upon first meeting in 2014 we clicked like I never experienced with anyone before. It just worked. It was as if it was meant to be. She was in Washington State on a Locum (temporary assignment) over several months.
We’re both athletic. We met while I was preparing to go out with a bicycle racing team for a training ride and she was going for a run. It was a once in a lifetime fluke encounter how we met. We dated. It was real as real can be. We talked by phone upon her return to Florida until I traveled down to see her for three weeks about a month later. Magical moments and memories for a lifetime which happens rarely. We ran together, were best friends and lovers. Distance interfered, always does. She was always looking for ways to 86 me, saying such things as “it was fun while it lasted.” We continued to talk telephonically.
I had the bright idea in 2016 of traveling across the country for an unannounced visit to see her. Why you may ask? Well, because I loved her. I was self-sufficient, with my own rental car and hotel room. I merely wanted to have lunch with her which I communicated with a message on her phone. I was looking for something from her, some indication if I should either stay or walk away. Some of you may thing this is very naïve. I understand, but I maintain to this day that with the right woman, there’s nothing wrong with it. My message indicated I was town staying at a local hotel 4 miles away and that I’d be in the area over five days. Not one word back, ever. Seems she didn’t like this. This was in 2016 and haven’t heard from her since.
I recall when we first met we were sitting on a street curb in Washington State, talking and laughing about lots of things. She mentioned repeatedly that one of her former relationships knew she was in the area and had repeatedly tried contacting her. She used the term stalking on numerous occasions to describe this person. I have no doubt she also used the term stalking to describe my unannounced visit to Florida to see her. I merely wished to have lunch or dinner with her to see her and look in her eyes. I was not stalking. That’s all I wanted. I wanted to know if I should walk away. I cared about her. I left Florida and returned home after the second day of no contact. There was no point in remaining. It was all a mistake on my part. In a final email to her several months later in 2016 (which she also never responded to) I said amongst other things the following… “I wished only to have coffee or lunch with you. I wanted to see you again. Why? I love you and have since about our fourth date. I wanted nothing more. So I flew across the country. You refused to see me. You’re action in refusing to see me was completely out of proportion to my action of coming in unannounced to visit you. You were wrong. I want you to know that I would ‘never’ in a million years do to someone what you did to me. Even if I was involved and had started a relationship with another person I would still have met you for coffee or lunch at minimum and nothing more. Especially given what there was at one time. And if there is any reason why you and I could never be together it’s because of how you conducted yourself during this period. And you can’t ever say to someone if it’s met to me it’ll happen because you have to put some honest effort into it. Empty words are empty words.”
I personally would have met her had the situation been reversed. In conclusion you’re left with three choices when bad things happen. You can allow it to define you, destroy you or strengthen you. This strengthens me after four years. I’m not like her. I have honor which is a male trait. She doesn’t. I’ve opened myself up a lot to all reading this and people can take a lot of shots at what I posted and there’s about a billion other things that happened during this period, which can’t be put on paper because of time constraints. Would I do anything similar to this again? Fuck no. So, if you’re one of those guys who thinks that your girlfriend would never do this to you… think again. I want to also say upfront that I’m aware my experience is tame compared to a lot of men who get divorce raped, having to give up the house they bought and paying lots of child support/alimony. I understand this. Yet it is still one of the tougher experiences of my life. Cross training five days weekly got me through it. I never received counseling and there’s nothing wrong with it. I also want to say I will never forgive or forget. Some will respond, but you need to forgive and forget and get on with your life. I have gotten on with my life and am doing well, but I view what she did as so egregious and something that you just don’t do to another human being. Not when we were as close as we were. This is how she does business, how she operates. She was always big on saying things like Karma’s a bitch, isn’t it? Well guess what, if Karma truly exist your life is over! She kept a lot of things hidden from me, yet I know enough about her to know she’s received a good deal of counseling in the past and she’s a woman. Lastly, when I hear people say everything happens for reason… well, what possible reason was there in my meeting her, other than to possibly show her that I had my shit together and was a good responsible guy and in the end was able to endure a four year crucible. I would have been better off not having met her because she was the hardest thing I’ve encountered in my career, life and an Army tour. Women are suspect at best. I wanted to know why it didn’t work, she left me with no answers. To this day I don’t know why. The only answer I have as to why is there is no answer, all the more reason not to forgive or forget. You don’t do shit like this to people. It didn’t have to end in this way. Women view it differently. I question how some people live with themselves.
Oh boy, waiting for closure from women is like waiting to grow a second dick sometimes. You learn to let them go. But I understand your feelings were in the way.
I outlined in a comment above how women drop hints. She dropped a hint when she mentioned “it was fun while it lasted”. But you pursued it and wanted more direct closure. The thing is, in her mind, she already gave you closure in subtle means and that was enough. This is how many women operate, and also how they absolve themselves of guilt this way.
I can relate to this in my early 20s when I also read way too much into a particular interaction with one girl. Everything happened as if it was meant to be, it was like destiny. She even told me. But at some point, she chose to move on. Why? Because I suppose it no longer “felt” like destiny to her anymore, for whatever reason (distance in your case as in mine). But I, like you, didn’t make that connection because I was blinded by my own feelings. Please understand one thing. Women NEVER tell you the precise moment they move on. They only drop hints before the “crime”. And if we are fools, we ignore them at our own peril.
She left you hanging, yes its brutal and harsh. But you chose to pursue her because she was worth more to you than you were worth to her.
Next time, pay attention and never suffer for a woman again until she has invested all her heart for you and you also feel the same way.
King Sigma, Excellent commentary. So many of these posts provide exceptional insight!
The best thing to do with insight is to share it. I’m happy some of you find it useful. I’ve gone through my own suffering and transformation with women so I hope its helping the brothers here.
So. True. I suffered through a multi-year long distance relationship that went nowhere, so I know *exactly* where What’s for supper is coming from. It’s been my experience that rarely will a woman give you the courtesy of explaining why she’s dumping you. That’s a lie of omission, and it’s just as damning as an overt lie, no matter how she rationalizes it.
She might have been married; not only that, happily married! In movies like Sicario, there is always some cartel Jefe saying “it’s not personal, it’s just business.” This is how modern women operate. As a man you seek closure to understand what you did wrong, and how to not repeat mistakes. Women, will make the identical mistakes until the day they die and never seek to examine why.
It truly isn’t personal when a woman breaks your heart and denies you closure to move on, even when you lose what feels like everything. After heartbreak like that you’ve got to find a purpose you can put your entire being into. Until then, keep riding that pain. It won’t go away until it goes away and you wonder why you fell for her so hard in the first place.
Any dude that says that a woman can’t cause heartbreak devestating enough to make you question your entire life is full of shit. Sometimes a woman is the only force strong enough to do that.
“It truly isn’t personal when a woman breaks your heart and denies you closure to move on, even when you lose what feels like everything. After heartbreak like that you’ve got to find a purpose you can put your entire being into. Until then, keep riding that pain. It won’t go away until it goes away and you wonder why you fell for her so hard in the first place.”
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Brilliant, wise & healing words, that some of us need to hear.
1172 words that could’ve been 250.
No wonder she was always looking for ways to 86 you.
I think the article that Roosh did on why he will probably Never get married is mostly bullshit. I think the real reason is because like virtually Everyone who commented on this article including the auther himself is that we ALL GET IT & UNDERSTAND THE TRUE NATURE OF WOMEN! Once that happens all the butterflys & feelings you used to get when you first meet a girl start to fade & dissapear. Of course nature is still nature & we still get sexually aroused by them as we end up using them for the ONLY thing they are capable of. But unfortunately love in Not one of them. Marriage Only works when you are NAIVE to womens true nature & fall for her soft feminine attributes. Of course EVERY MAN will get a lesson on a womans nature eventually when out of the blue with NO WARNING she decides to Divorce Rape him & he wonders how she can just take him for everything he has WITHOUT Concience or Guilt when he sacrificed Everything for her.
Still convinced that he did something wrong or that SHE was a just a Special isolated case he finds love again & marries once more ONLY for the SAME thing to happen again & as he gets his wordly possessions & income stolen again by a Women he loved with No remorce concience or guilt all while shes sucking some drug addicts dick that she moves into the house you bought. Eventually he realizes the Nature of Women & that AWALT but its already too late.
Is marriage & the ILLUSION of Love Attainable ? YES! But Only in a Patriarchal society that protects Mens best interests & thus family & societys. Most Men of old Never knew or had to learn such truths about womans nature because there was laws in place that protected them & a society that SHAMED Women. So they where able to live in that ILLUSION for all their lives. SLut Shaming is Now considered a HAte Crime & divorcing a Man & destroying his life is concidered EMPOWERING! If you Dont believe that statement your just a Misogynist that HATES WOMEN!
Women where NOT made with Morality this is a MALE characteristic. This needs to be Understood. The diffrence between Women today & women of Yester-year is that there where constraints on the way women acted. Today they can be there true selves WITHOUT Constraint & rewarded for their hypergamous true nature. Even if I lived in a society where MEN where awarded cash & prizes for divorcing a Woman I could NEVER Do it in a Million years!! My concience would eat at me & I dont have the heart to do it! But then again I am seeing things through a Masculine lens & have to realize these are MENS TRAITS that I exibit. And thats what EVERY MAN far & wide needs to learn.
“pay attention and never suffer for a woman again until she has invested all her heart for you”
Hahaha, what a weak man you are, women are all lying bitches to be used and discarded. No woman ever ‘invested all her heart’ in a man. Blue pill all the way.
What’s for supper,
No offense sir but I think you brought your hurt on yourself when you did that little trip and asked to see her one more time. More specifically, your e-mail reeked of desperation and an attempt to make her feel bad for not fulfilling your wishes.
I obviously do not know the details but from what you’ve told us she was under no obligation to entertain you by responding and you hardly knew if she was there in the same area to begin with or what kind of stuff she was going through at the time.
If I were that woman, I would have felt scared after that salty e-mail of yours and would have even less motivation to have anything to do with you because if you’re that emotionally involved it’s sometimes a sign that the person (usually a man) has based their life around a relationship visual and is not willing to let go, even if it means (in very extreme cases) resorting to murder-suicide to heal that ego wound.
I would not be surprised if your initial message to her had a heavy hearted and desperate tone in it as well, which would have made the meeting very awkward for her as she would have felt that you’re demanding something from her and she would feel like having to watch her every move to satisfy your ideal of how that meeting should go down. What you should do instead is go to that town of hers, lay back, game other women in there and send a laid-back light-hearted message to that ex-woman of yours if you like but if she does not respond, just let it be.
I’ve been in a similar emotional state, acted salty and entitled but luckily it was not over anything important and that’s years in the past.
DepressedGuy1985,
I wasn’t going to respond after reading your post because I found myself in a dark place after my original post, which surprised me.
No question, the Florida trip was a disastrous mistake. Several posters in this forum reiterated that you have to let em go. I get it.
Your comment: your e-mail reeked of desperation and an attempt to make her feel bad for not fulfilling your wishes.
I was not focused on making her feel bad. It never entered my thought process. Nor do I feel I was desperate in my email. Nowhere do I see where I acted ‘entitled’ as you state. We disagree. I was seeking answers. I searched for someone like her my entire life. After finding her she was ripped away because of distance. Say for example, you’re married and have children, both of whom you dearly love with every fiber of your being. Wouldn’t you fly across the country in an effort to redeem the situation, if they were suddenly taken away? Probably. Right or wrong, it’s what I did. She never said that she wanted no further contact with me probably because she recognized there was a connection. If she had I would have walked away. She continued to call me and we’d talk for three plus hours. She did drop hints like “it was fun while it lasted” and others. So this provides a little background as to why I made my ill-fated trip to Florida. You are correct in that she had zero obligation to see me. You don’t know me. She was present in the area as I verified ahead of time, you don’t need to know how. Yes, she was going through a lot. She had a full plate, the details of which I will not discuss. She received lots of counseling. She’s a driven woman, who has come far and overcome numerous obstacles. I admire her on many levels.
In the end all my efforts weren’t enough, so I sent a final email to her several weeks later after which I walked away forever. Sometime you can’t win, but you can tell it like it is and then walk away. It’s what I did. I’d do it again. Non-negotiable.
I’m also not going to “off “anybody, as you say, with some bullshit murder/suicide. That’s for the fucking crazies. I’m not crazy. I’m a rationale guy who loved this woman and still do and did the best I could which wasn’t enough. I lacked a ‘rule-book’ to fall back on for what I should do. You’re obviously a counselor of sorts? I also note how you take the woman’s side in this, which is perfectly fine. I appreciate a devil’s advocate.
Thanks to all who provided insight which I’m sure others found interesting and helpful. Life happens with mistakes, that’s what this is. I’m not going to further post on the subject. I’m moving on. Best
Women were always that way, they weren’t bred to be like that since the start of civilisation. And I think you’re complicating a simple issue because you’re trying to think about it as a man. Women are self-serving especially when it comes to breeding. That’s it. They don’t feel bad, have morals, etc. because nature has never had a need to equip them with such attributes. ‘Lying’ isn’t really a concept to women, just like lying isn’t a concept to other animals who use deception. They only know the term because men understand lying and tell them what it is. When caught they will feign guilt, just as a dog has learnt to feign guilt to appease the dominant, then repeats the same action later of putting its head in the bin when you’re not around or whatever. It never felt ‘guilt’ or understands ‘guilt’ like a man, it just put on certain submissive behavioural attributes.
Jenn,
But this type of collective spewing of hatred for the opposite sex really isn’t healthy.
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Well, we can talk about reality or put your head in the sand and pretend it’s untrue. Alternatively, you can cover your ears or eyes with both hands and pretend it’s untrue. So much of the male female interactions in online dating, for example, are comparable to low level conflicts (wars) than anything positive.
They are no longer women. Collectively, they have reduced themselves to a bunch of mere cunts. The problem begins and ends with these assholes.
The current politically correct term is “front hole” you sexist misogynist.
Americans hate free speech with a passion.
The previous two posters are right on the money. I had a similar experience with a woman I dated for half a year. We were coworkers and had great chemistry together- a lot of things in common( heck two of her sisters even share my birthday). She even told me once she dreamed of us getting married. I thought she was the “one” until her true nature was revealed.Due to life circumstances we grew apart: she quit her job and went on to star in a reality show. My mom was diagnosed with cancer and myself shortly after! During this time she promised she wouldn’t ever leave me and that I meant so much to her, and that she cared and had feelings a bunch of bs…She ghosted me for two months! After the heartless move, I immediately went no contact and ignored her text messages. Until, one day she went beserk and said unbelievable things such as “ I won’t be a thorn in your ass” and “ I never stopped caring” Pure narcissistic nonsense. Her reasoning for not reaching out to me was that she thought I wanted to be left alone. Really? Dumbest shit I ever heard. My mom and I were battling for our lives!! I needed all the encouragement I could get. Thank God the chemo was effective. I praise the Lord for healing us. Truly a miracle. Back to my former flame, I found out she had been seeing someone else(trough Facebook) and never told me the truth. When that ended is when she came crawling back to me. She even had the audacity to invite me to the viewing party of her reality show. I had said yes but reneged because I was fed up of the lies, manipulation, and mind games being played that I decided to walk away permanently. You don’t treat human beings like shit especially those who have cancer. Borderline psycho women are harbingers of toxic relationships-disloyal, dishonest and worthless.
“Borderline psycho women are harbingers of toxic relationships-disloyal, dishonest and worthless.”
But AWALT, you learn to deal with it or live alone.
Ok, I can’t imagine, what you went through in your story,
but please get rid of all these fairy tales in your mind like “had great chemistry together- a lot of things in common( heck two of her sisters even share my birthday)”
Always assume the female chameleon, and always think rationally: “two of her sisters even share my birthday” -> how does this show, that you are both more compatible / share the same values ?
Funny coincidence, yes – but don’t interpret anything into it.
I guess it’s easier to spot this from a third perspective.
Hahahahaha, nobody told the author that you should never marry with a girl you met at the club on a Friday night at 2:00 a.m? They’re just for pump and dump.
The author has some interesting insights that I generally agree with. However, one point of disagreement: Women were never slaves. They, through their manipulation and later the arrogance/ignorance of society were always the masters….
Or just plain male stupidity and thirst ?
I think it was and is a combination of both.
Wow, so you ratted the woman that were brave enough to tell you that your gf is cheating on you? Well done.
Women living in milenias of slavery? Again, well done in history study. That is what actually feminist what us to think. Sure they had some gender roles that today society won’t accept, but so had and we, the males.
And about “all women die but your gf don’t”. That is like when feminist hive ridicilute a female target, that all men are pigs, but their sweet heart is not (impying how naive she is).
Blindly trust woman is foolish, but assuming she is lier without knowing a thing about her is ridicilus too.
I was definitely a sap not too long ago, in college I met a girl and when clicked pretty quickly. A few weeks into going out we ran into some friends at a ball game, and hung out as a group that night. I had a few too many and passed out on my friends couch. The next morning she texted me she was disappointed she had to help take care but made no mention that she had hopped into bed with my friends brother shortly after meeting him. I had a bunch of stuff going on that summer so we didn’t talk much, but things picked back up when I returned to school. We dated for nearly 4 years, one of her friends once made an at a glance comment about her promiscuity but I had no clue. She moved away to work in a teaching program, but we decided to try and make it work. After college I commissioned and would use leave periods/weekends/etc to see her. I had some difficulty in my training and looked to her for support, but over time our communication got worse and worse. Approaching Valentines I tried to arrange a trip for us, for which she showed no interest until she finally called me and said her work was more important and spilled the beans on her trangression (although I imagine there are more). I stupidly tried to keep fighting wasting months of my time, I guess we’ve technically never broken up (she wants to have her cake and eat it too), but I’ve moved on to other game. I imagine she’ll call me from time to time thinking she has me on her hook, I won’t fall back into her trap.
‘The key to understanding this is to realize that all women today are the daughters of slaves; slaves both in the physical sense and mental sense. Until a hundred years ago, women were chattel and were passed from father to husband at a public ceremony called a wedding. All the aggressive, self-aware, moral women were long since gone; killed in disputes with their partners or the enemies of their family and tribe. The rest greeted their conquerors as heroes, threw flowers at them and opened their legs.’
No.
Biological determinism and the potential for genes to dictate human behaviour is an ever decreasing logic circle.
So many obvious problems but off the top of my head…..
-if any of that made any sense, then the male of the species would be required to ‘evolve’ to ‘suit’ the female and thus secure the procreation of the race. Do you feel OK with female hypergamy? If not, then evolution has dropped the ball. You should have ‘adapted’ to actually welcome hypergamy. After all it is the only reason YOU have been born.
-if ….was true, then the human female would not be attracted to physically strong (violent) warrior types as of the industrial rev. when strength stopped securing resources. Do you think women find Bill Gates sexy? No. Me neither.ie if women only wish to secure resiurces via mating, they would be less and less attracted to brawny men in a technological society. It doesn’t add up, does it?
Finally, as we are all now aware, human female have out reproduced men 8 to 1 over all genetic history.
Do the Math(s).
The sexy invader idea just does not make mathematical sense. No invader is going to slaughter 7 rival males to secure his harem. Too much effort and no way to keep an eye on his conquests.
Reputation is everything. My unicorn church girl that projected that image and guarded her reputation so well found a way to satisfy her feral lust by being “that girl” on girls only vacations and using tinder. All so discrete and exciting to engage in your lust and not having your rep damaged. It drove me nuts when I found out that the same good girl is capable of this and not see the dissonance of their actions to what they think the are. It took every bit of my training in interrogation and some underhanded stuff that if I took that confession from a suspect, it would be thrown out of court. She hid her trysts so well and presented herself as such a good girl that I was completely fooled. Still angry that I was fooled.
Compartmentalization is how she can reconcile what she does to who she believes she is. When I found out she also used the term “white lie.” AWALT
Reputation is everything. My unicorn church girl that projected that image and guarded her reputation so well found a way to satisfy her feral lust by being “that girl” on girls only vacations and using tinder. All so discrete and exciting to engage in your lust and not having your rep damaged. It drove me nuts when I found out that the same good girl is capable of this and not see the dissonance of their actions to what they think the are. It took every bit of my training in interrogation and some underhanded stuff that if I took that confession from a suspect, it would be thrown out of court. She hid her trysts so well and presented herself as such a good girl that I was completely fooled. Still angry that I was fooled.
Compartmentalization is how she can reconcile what she does to who she believes she is. When I found out she also used the term “white lie.” AWALT
Live in the Midwest and up here I’d say close to half the babies you see that are American have a black father and white mother. That’s if you get out of the house, go to malls, movie theaters, stroll downtown, parks, etc…The father is usually never to be seen…Its not just land whales or poor white females either…Maybe 10-15 years ago it was, but not anymore. These babies have the light skin but NONE OF THE BLUE EYES! Blue eyed babies are the best! PERIOD! And it shows the Germanic/Celtic genes. Yeah, a white woman thought like that once a half-a-century ago!
It is true that women–wives, daughters, sisters or mothers– do not have our best interets at heart.
It is also true that certain ones are the worst of the worst. They embody all that is evil and selfish with any woman anywhere, ever.
Damn I love hearing these marriage horror stories. How I’ve made it to 39 dodging the marriage bullet is beyond me. Must have been divine intervention. Almost went down that road with a fiancée. Luckily we both called it off before the big day. I could only imagine the shitstorm that would have followed if I’d married that bitch. Glad I found ROK when I did. Very grateful today.
DON’T LET THE SIMIAN BLACK MAN CORRUPT THE GENE POOL BY IMPREGNATING WHITE WOMEN! KEEP THE GENE POOL PURE FOR LONGEVITY AND POSTERITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HA HA HA. It must suck having average looks, a wimpy body, a dull personality and an average to small cock.
Guys who spend on females are losers. Guys who get cheated upon are losers.
Females who are turned on by their man never cheat.
Some women lie, some women lie a lot, and the rest never tell the truth.
Never put a woman in charge of the family finances. Ever.
That picture of the soldier looks more silly than a Soviet Marshall with 100 medals. Compare it to the style of the National Socialist uniforms during that era. It’s almost comical.