Back in the mid 1980s I was at a party one summer evening, on break from college. The beer was good, and a few friends that I attended high school with were there. We were all chillin having a good time. During the course of the evening I met a friend of a friend, whose name I forgot, but he was one of those born again Christians. I do not care for religious fanatics, but this guy’s pro-Christ temperament seemed low key enough and tolerable. That, plus I was too drunk to get up and walk away.
Many born again Christians have a fascination with The Revelation. This is the last book in the Bible that metaphorically describes the upcoming signs of mankind’s demise. The born again guy at the party and I got talking, and he was telling me about the future of The Beast, or also known as The Mark, which I have also heard about before from other holy rollers. So we talked further and he explained to me that the Beast is where a person has something under his skin that can be scanned electronically to extract information about you: everything, in fact. He said your medical data, finances, and ability to pay for something (essentially replacing the credit card) will all be extracted from the Mark you have. That and more.
I thought to myself that this concept would make a great horror science fiction film. And it did so in the 1993 movie Demolition Man, but in fact it went further as we now see life imitating art. The above video is worth viewing all the way through. The RFID, or perhaps shall we call it The Beast, is part of Obama’s health care plan. And whereas the implementation of the chip being placed inside a human is not mandated as written, nonetheless the way the law is stated allows the specific operatives in charge of the program to decide whether or not the chip should be required. In short, the law is written vaguely enough to appear harmless at the same time giving full draconian control to the Matrix.
I also want to state here that in no way to I am trying to indirectly coerce anyone to becoming religious or repenting. The “Are you saved?” Christians have, in my opinion, done the most damage to the church than anyone. You can include me among the people who avoid those zealots. But to their credit that they seem to have successfully foreseen something that appears to be manifesting today.
The issue is not this new technology per se, nor is it the fact that the government wants to implement it, nor is it the fact that the chip could evolve be more invasive then simply providing medical data. The issue is John Q. Public’s complacent “Yeah it could be abused really really bad, but think of all the good it could do” attitude. Those of you who have studied the Roman Empire are aware of the concept of ‘bread and circus,’ which states: keep the people stupid and entertained and you control Rome. Today’s bread and circus is extremely sophisticated via smartphones, social media, and all related technologies therein. So it comes as no surprise that one does not see an uproar about all of this.
We are at a cross roads. Lets assume for a moment that the initial chip will only be medical data. But if this generation allows this RFID version 1.0 be implanted, the next generation could be sold on a version of the chip to include say, one’s driver’s license and medical data. The following generation after that could be convinced to enable the chip to pay for things, as well as drivers license data, and medical records. A few more generations and versions down the road who knows? Perhaps the chip will be able to deactivate your life at the push of a button. I would like to think that this could never happen but yesterday’s Orwellian fictional stories are becoming today’s realities.
If the chip is implanted and mandated then I guess we’ll have to rent Demolition Man so we will know what is expected of us.
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51 thoughts on “It’s Just A Little Chip”
Snopes thinks you’re full of crap and so do I.
Just think about it. Your medical information changes every year. Are you going to get another one implanted every time you see a doctor?
Hmm, i’m sure this would be forseeable and the damn thing could just be upgraded via computer.
Quiet Rebel is simply stating that we are at a crossroads and it behooves us all to pull our noses out of the smart phones and have a full understanding of the implications of it. The potential for the government to pull some move to control us more will alwaysbe there. Only a dope would dismiss it as “crap”.
the chip wouldn’t contain your data just the IDnumber, an online database(s) would have your data.
does your bank forget how much money you owe them if you lose your credit card? no
even need a chip..just a sample of your dna taken at birth
Version 1.0 goal is to get the Vox Pop to simply accept having a chip only with medical data. Version 2.0 (the generation after us) then could potentially have medical data and driver license data, the next generation after that more private shit etc etc etc until we become easily controlled robots. But ut all starts with the very first ‘innocent’ versionn.
RFID chips have enough storage to just store all the data. And there are read write RFID chips. An online database would only create more problems.
really the only reason to implant something would be to track your location/movements. But no need for that! most americans willing carry a tracking device already. its your CELL PHONE. it tracks you even when turned off. you actually have to remove that battery to prevent this.
now take out your iphone and try to remove the battery. HA HA HA – who knows why i am laughing now?
OTOH, this could be a boon for privacy. I have someone in my family whose medical conditions require her to wear a bracelet with relevant info at all times, and she’s commented on how wearing it makes her uncomfortable since she’s immediately identifiable as being sick.
I think the better point is that we should remain vigilant and aware of how new technology affects us (in ways other than making our lives “more convenient”.) Slamming on the brakes out of fear of some slippery slope over the horizon is just anti-progress.
Anti-progress? Tell me, do you even know where we’re progressing towards? Do you think society is moving forwards? Do you? “Yes, well, I’ve got a mobile phone and computer and internet to watch porn and all. Would you prefer to live in the middle ages without electricity?” Answer: Uh… yep. Just think about it, without internet and computers and electricity I would never have read your stupid fucking sheep comment. Win-win.
Don’t get me wrong, I love free internet porn, but I’ve also used my computer to build a business that lets me work anywhere in the world–an opportunity that would never have been available to me 20 years ago.
Porn + freedom. Win-win.
Anybody who has a RFID scanner can, if chipped, remotely scan your family member for diseases. RFID has numerous security problems.
This is also a clear example of everybody suffering for the few. Everybody should be implanted because some bracelet wearers are uncomfortable?
Nope. The few people who want/need them would get them. The rest of us would go about our lives like before.
Strictly speaking, your relative does not have a medical condition that requires her to wear a bracelet. She prefers to wear a bracelet because it helps her receive the correct treatment.
thats how all technological advances start. at first they liberate you, then when you cant live without them they enslave you.
“The shallows” is a free book that talks more about this. I’m considering a technology diet after reading it.
imagine if all your buying credits and financial information were stored on an internal chip. if you did something illegal or w/e then they’d remove you from the marketplace by cancelling your buying power.
As with anything else, humans can use this tool for good or evil. Microbiology has brought us incalculable good in the form of medicines and procedures to increase the quality of life. It has also brought us biological weapons that could theoretically wipe us all out. The tool is not the scary thing, it’s the intent of the user.
Pretty sure the intent is ill these days, so fear is justified.
Nah, medicine’s done us no good. All those vaccines and cures have only helped to increase the average age and help with over-population. Whatever happened to survival of the fittest? I say if you’re genetically inferior or barren or have a heart defect, tough luck. Eugenics all the way, baby!
“All those vaccines and cures have only helped to increase the average age ”
Most of which is owed to the massive reduction of infant mortality. Many people, with the help of good genes, were living till their 80s in Ancient Greece and Rome. That’s already more than my grandparents.
@Sceptic Another idiot that knows no history, demographics or science by the way.
Can’t forget about all the fun little antibiotic resistant bugs that have started popping up from the wellspring of good intentions.
when the war on drugs was first introduced, the public was scared at all the gangbangers getting rich off it, the crazies using drugs to steal/killfor their fix and the possibility of their family members getting addicted. So they accepted the invasion of privacy and people getting searched by cops or having their cars searched for the greater good of stopping drugs.
fast forward to 9-11 and the public is all scared about terrorists so they accept more new laws bypassing the constitution and perverts in airports touching little kids junk. but again if something can stop another 9-11 its worth the loss of some freedoms, right?
the future with these chips is really just the next step in a gradual process of numbing the public to be made into helpless sheep. americans are some of the least free people in the world. ask yourself how is a country with 4% of the worlds population that has 25% of the worlds inmates.
how do you think pigs got domesticated? well humans would leave food out for wild pigs, they would stop and eat the food and nothing would happen, eventually they got food enough without problems that they felt safe. then one day humans put a gate around them are they were stuck, only to allow themeselves and their offspring to become meals for the humans.
my point is these things start off inocently enough, people think i can get behind this law, then one day they wake up and realize these things meant to keep us safe have restricted us and taken away what we should really value which is freedom.
More plausible if it were rolled out in the UK first (and they’ve only just started mandatory chipping of all dogs as part of the “dog control” initiative). Biometric identification systems are being deployed anyway: no chip required for total surveillance.
A lot of people are scared about this. (A surprisingly high amount of computer scientists). But their views are usually marginalized (Easy to do with computer scientists, just call them hackers). Bruce schneier writes about a lot of these problems. He also was against RFID passports for example : https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2004/10/rfid_passports.html
I’m concerned about the reports that animal testing shows higher rates of cancer around RFID implants.
I think the hackers of the world would be delighted to be able to scan everybody they meet for diseases (previous STDs for example).
It’d been a nice touch to have the barcode go to the imdb page of Demolition Man or something instead of http://businesstxt.com.
a slut chip would be useful, though. just imagine meeting a girl, scanning her with your phone and instantly the app tells you how many different cocks have been inside her.
And any STD’s. But that will never happen, however the opposite could be plausible where a female could scan your chip and have access to a female only social network database and pull your data.
why a chip? They can simply use facial recognition to achieve the same thing. Everywhere you go you will be tracked. surveillance 360, everywhere you go. The only exception being in your home away from the devices (like in 1984). your face will be your credit card.
What makes you think the chip would be read only?
Hey, maybe some future bureaucrat would like to upload behaviors to the populace (for their own good).
Maybe a bio RAM chip will be required to upload EBT card (or Medicare or Social Security) data in the future.
Don’t be unscannable… join the in-crowd herd. All Americans need Brawndo; it’s got electrolytes.
You gotta hand it to the people who wrote the bible and other religious texts. it’s so vague that it’s timeless, one of the longest working con jobs in history.
And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. – Revelations 13:17 KJV
That’s the part that worries me. As the economy gets worse and the Fed continues to Qualitatively ease the destruction of the dollar, we may eventually be presented with the only option being a new “currency” that is completely digital and requires we get the “chip” in order to buy and sell.
That’s when the choice gets real. If you’re a believer, the Bible says only those who refuse to take the mark will be saved.
And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. – Revelations 14:9-14 KJV
Take the mark so as to be able to feed you and your family…but condemn your soul to damnation in the afterlife.
If these are the last days, we have a stark choice coming shortly. Perhaps we may understand the mindset of the Christian preppers a little better now… 8-(
I doubt that’s what the original authors of the bible had in mind, they couldn’t even conceive of electricity. And quantitative easing isn’t as bad as people make it out to be, the guys spouting hyperinflation have so far been unable to make a coherent argument as to how and when this is going to happen.
But there are countries that are very aggressive in reducing the amount of cash money used, some going even as far as wanting to ban it. This would of course mean a complete erosion of privacy, not only can’t you hide anything from the government but you’ll also be unable to hide anything from corporations. No more untaxable, untraceable money. Bad for anyone who loves freedom.
the amount of biblical prophecy currently coming to pass would blow your minds, but you dudes don’t believe in that stuff, so it must not be true.
except, what if it is?
tell us more
It’s designed that way. Careful observations about human nature that can be applied through the ages. And then you appeal to man’s arrogance: It’s exactly in his life time when the world is going to end, and not the thousands before him who prepared for the return of Christ (or the god/deity Christ is based upon, it’s not an original concept) .
Of course the concept of money is never far behind all those prophecies.
The chip only has a number. It cannot contain anything else. It is like same idea of that deal they implant in a dog when you adopt it. It is too small. There is no way to “write” data into it.
The data is in a computer that associates to the ID. It is the same as when they ask you for you SSN. There is no freaking difference. Or your name. A name is just a speakable and easily remembered ID that has the convention of being composed of letters.
OK, because it is implanted then there is no possibility of fraud. But if you are unconscious when you arrive at a hospital then the RFID may be read.
You have more data stored away about you just by using the internet for a month that will ever be stored as a function of that chip. There are pretty strong HIPPA, health information and patient privacy act, that regulate healthcare data. I wrote health care software and every review of any design had a HIPPA review component to it. Testing of software was often hampered because of the belligerence and reservations of hospitals in providing actual data to adequate test designs. They both fear legal issues and also respect your right to privacy under the spirit of the law.
Most systems can barely share data amongst the essential components of the hospital IT regime while you are actually in the hospital, much less this grand giant all encompassing giant database somewhere that knows when you bought Viagra at Walgreens. Most older data other than 90 or 180 days goes on to a database backup on a tape that gets put in a warehouse to be saved 7 years for legal reasons and the act of finding and restoring that data involves the movement of heaven and earth. And these are specific systems like the Pharmacy System or the financial system or the clinicals system. And to find it all and synthesize a complete record just for one person from all the different data that has built-in compartmentalization is a tremendous endeavor.
It took an act of congress and significant money from the stimulus just to even begin to convert the old paper data into electronic records. And that data went right back on a tape and right back into a vault that nobody gives a crap about nor gets funded to be managed.
Jesus is not coming back just because some people put a RFID chip under their skin.
This article pisses me off because this Manosphere is struggling for credibility and this type of idea demeans us as thinkers.
It is fine to say that you wish to generally not participate in any activity that has the potential of encroaching on privacy. And leave it at that. I don’t use Facebook or LinkIn for that reason.
But to infer Revelations and gloom and doom, Obamacare, and every other pointy headed association and have it as a legitimate article on Return of Kings demeans this publication and what it is trying to accomplish.
> ” There are pretty strong HIPPA, health information and patient privacy act, that regulate healthcare data. I wrote health care software and every review of any design had a HIPPA review component to it. Testing of software was often hampered because of the belligerence and reservations of hospitals in providing actual data to adequate test designs. They both fear legal issues and also respect your right to privacy under the spirit of the law. ”
Do you really think people who care not one whit about the U.S. Constitution will let a little thing like HIPAA bother them?
> “The chip only has a number. It cannot contain anything else. It is like same idea of that deal they implant in a dog when you adopt it. It is too small. There is no way to “write” data into it. ”
You wrote software; you did not design or build hardware or firmware. There’s no such thing as a readable chip that does not have the capacity to be writeable. If you had read the article and watched the video, you would have seen that the rules are malleable and designed with built-in loopholes.
> “Most systems can barely share data amongst the essential components of the hospital IT regime while you are actually in the hospital, much less this grand giant all encompassing giant database somewhere that knows when you bought Viagra at Walgreens.”
If you want more connected data about you, by all means sign up for moar but let’s not impose your anything-goes attitude on others (by force).
> “Most older data other than 90 or 180 days goes on to a database backup on a tape that gets put in a warehouse to be saved 7 years for legal reasons and the act of finding and restoring that data involves the movement of heaven and earth.”
Clearly, you haven’t been following recent data retention policies. This also contradicts your initial assertion that there’s much data being collected about us all the time.
> “This article pisses me off because this Manosphere is struggling for credibility and this type of idea demeans us as thinkers.”
The Matrix is not one-dimensional. The attack on men is part of a concerted attack on our liberties. Look beyond your paycheck and you’ll see the signs.
Your response and apparent desire to stop dissemination of ideas you do not agree with disappoints. OK?
If you are truly red pill, consider questioning EVERYTHING you have been told to believe.
Thanks Mark for your responses to Minter’s blue pill sheep take this issue.
Quote minter: ” There are pretty strong HIPPA, health information and patient privacy act, that regulate healthcare data.”
Quote response:”Do you really think people who care not one whit about the U.S. Constitution will let a little thing like HIPAA bother them?”
My reply – Precisely – it is extremely dangerous to assume just because there are laws in place then the ahem… ‘system’ will follow the rules. That’s just pure dumb fuckery.
But he’s not truly Red Pill. He has shown that through his personal choices and actions.
” This article pisses me off because this Manosphere is struggling for credibility and this type of idea demeans us as thinkers.It is fine to say that you wish to generally not participate in any activity that has the potential of encroaching on privacy. And leave it at that. I don’t use Facebook or LinkIn for that reason.But to infer Revelations and gloom and doom, Obamacare, and every other pointy headed association and have it as a legitimate article on Return of Kings demeans this publication and what it is trying to accomplish.”
The author is not stating that Jesus is coming or anything of the sorts. And good Manosphere writings are thoughts and ideas that go outside the box to consider possibilities. I will say that your reaction that this post ‘pisses you off’ is what is not normal.
QUOTE MINTER: “This article pisses me off because this Manosphere is struggling for credibility and this type of idea demeans us as thinkers.”
Why don’t you just go find a 30 something single mother and marry the cunt because you are too a afraid to grow old alone and… oh that’s right you’ve already done that.
YOU have no credibility.
YOU are a hypocrite.
You are a total asshole.
One more thing. You could fucking die from medication errors more than from anything else that goes on in that hospital. One of the key attributes my software could claim was that it prevented 11,000,000 medication errors in hospitals. 11,000,000. In like 2 years.
Right now the regime is that the medication has a bar code on it, the bed has a barcode on it, and the chart has a bar code on it. And the patient has a wristband. Before applying the meds, the nurse, has a scanner, she scans the bed, the chart, the patient, and the meds and they all have to jive.
All this shit adds up, all this shit adds costs, one more system, one more set of administrators, one more upgrade to consider, to test for, but they have to do it to keep from having the shit sued out them when they kill you. A modern hospital lives and dies on its systems and they are huge chunk of the expense of health care. If I took a system out of operation for even a few hours, the whole hospital was turned on its ear and I was hounded until they got it back.
The RFID would eliminate a lot of costs and almost all of the errors. Scan the meds, scan the chip. Two less costly systems to maintain, and that is just for meds. You have labs, lab work, therapy, surgery. So before that doctor gives you an accidental sex change operation, he scans you and finds out you that actually are there for dick enlargement surgery. OK, that’s a exaggeration but you get the point.
Nobody is forcing anyone into doing this. The benefits are explained and most people, especially sick fucking people, that have to deal with the hospital on a continual basis like the idea of just showing their wrist and not having to answer fucking question after question after question. And they like not having lab results lost or mixed up, or screw ups.
Jeez. Pin head. You can keep screaming about Obamacare being the biggest affront to your liberty ever, but the results of the laws came from thousands of health care professionals that are normal people, that respect your privacy, that give a crap about the quality of care, that care about both the bottom line and the patient experience, coming together and adding input as to how to create conventions in a rather convoluted and often home grown, chaotic system of data and technology and to provide some guidance and standardization to make it all better, less costly, more efficient, and less frustrating for all involved.
Get over it. You do not know what you are talking about and it is best left to professionals who do.
One of these days, you will hit that hospital and those people will probably save your life. And then you will be glad that they know what the fuck they are doing.
Many participants in the Stanford Prison Experiment were “normal people, that respect your privacy.” Churchgoing, normal people with nice smiles and good intentions. The thousands of founding Sturmabteilung were also “normal people” until they weren’t.
The multitude of feminists who work tirelessly to improve America are “normal people, that respect your privacy” and are only trying to repair a broken masculine “experience, coming together and adding input as to how to create conventions in a rather convoluted and often home grown, chaotic system.”
Unfortunately, some of us are not team players; we just want to be left alone to our “home grown, chaotic system.” In fact, many thinking men just not into herd-approved solutions.
You sound like a trustworthy guy on the interwebs and we realize that you’re really, really here to help us and you’ll need just a leeetle bit of our liberty to make it happen. No thanks.
No need to foam at the mouth. OK?
There would be other solutions instead of a chip. Like perhaps a simple card that could be scanned and data pulled, not something that is under your skin. you do make a good argument regarding the importance that under an emergency situation that the physicians have all the data at their disposal, I think the chip under the skin approach will do more harm than good.
Yes, but what if the chip becomes useless during an accident? How could it assist physicians during an emergency?
T(the idea of using a card is alright as long as it only contains your medical history and insurance payment records or whatever) That stupid chip is essentially a gps device used to track “potential” threats to the state and gather pseudo legal evidence against them.
Long live Strawberry Shortcake and My Little Pony motherfuckers.
You talk like a slave. I need to buy a new whip for you. One that suits your superior intellect.
no chip for moi. not i said dan.
i’m still waiting for skynet to become self aware.
“The RFID would eliminate a lot of costs and almost all of the errors.”
Eliminate costs for whom?
And at what price…mandatory ID tags for all the citizenry?
Why yes, I could see how Big Brother would find the reduced costs and errors would certainly benefit their surveillance state. Do it! It’s for teh Childrenz!
I doubt that’s what the original authors of the bible had in mind, they couldn’t even conceive of electricity.
Even if the Bible where the complete fiction made up in the minds of men, and there is no God, the observation of the human lust for power and control over their fellow man is an easy one to predict.
They couldn’t conceive of electricity or RFID chips, but they could certainly conceive of future generations of men who would develop new methods and tactics for gaining total control of humanity.
This article pisses me off because this Manosphere is struggling for credibility and this type of idea demeans us as thinkers
The Manosphere is not “struggling for credibility.” To attain credibility would mean the Manosphere ceases to exists.
We are the counter-culture. The real one….not the controlled opposition one. We are not struggling for credibility, we are speaking truth to power.
And for you to imply that Christianity is “demeaning to thinkers” is the height of ignorance. You (or I) couldn’t hold the jock strap of Christianity’s greatest thinkers. Go read The Screwtape Letters…then get back to us about how Christianity “demeans the thinkers.”
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