If you are not aware of a problem, it’s incredibly difficult to begin working on a solution for it. To identify a weakness in your behaviour is to begin to be able to improve or eliminate it. And as enlightened readers of the manosphere, I believe it is our duty to our fellow man to present him information so that he may also understand clearly, the state of the world in which we find ourselves. This could be through inspiring through behaviour, through the insertion of intriguing red pill language into every day conversation, or even the redirection to certain websites. By doing this, we assist and educate our fellow man, converting more men to an alpha mentality.
However even with our best collective efforts, there are unfortunately some who, when provided with enlightenment still prefer to close their eyes and allow life to strongly shaft them, however direct the signs may be.
The following real life example, that I have personally observed unfold first hand, should serve to discourage any man who would otherwise choose to ignore the sometimes difficult to digest realities consumption of the red pill can bring.
A Gamma In The Wild
Girl goes to study in France, barely speaks any French but manages to get into university there. Maintains long distance relationship with Beta back in home country. She is relatively faithful towards him, only slipping onto two casual cocks through two thirds of her time at French university.
Beta decides he wants some action closer to home and calls it quits over the phone. Girl is quite upset, taking a whole two weeks before cashing in one lucky orbiter for her consolation dick.
Despite said consolation dick, Girl is approaching end of studies. While quite literally ‘riding out’ the end of her course, she spots Gamma Man lurking in the corner of her favourite sausage bar. After making simple eye contact and positioning herself nearby, Gamma Man finally summons up enough dutch courage to initiate conversation. With her driving the conversation, they begin conventional dating, he subscribing to his romantic fairytale tradition his mother taught him while she wraps up her considerably sized male harem with a string of farewell rides. Even the orbiter got one. After she said her ‘goodbyes’ to the harem, she decides she is ready for something more serious. Devoid of any education about what this statement means, Gamma Man (still in the romantic idealisation his mother taught him), enters into a relationship with Girl, completely oblivious to any of the above.
The Gamma In Captivity
Many months pass. Gamma Man has been sufficiently conditioned through almost three years of using a combination of belittling, controlling supply of sex, guilt shaming on relatively inconsequential matters, criticism and imposed isolation. Gamma Man’s self esteem is that where he sees girl as far higher value to himself, pedestalising her to the highest level. In the false belief someone of his low standing could ever have attracted such a woman, he proposes. Girl contemplates for a short period, but without too much delay accepts, conscious of his promises of a ‘good life together’.
Soon after, Gamma Man and Girl begin building a home together, much in the same way as one of the opening scenes of Fight Club, where Edward Norton’s character recites the various names of the catalogue furniture in the apartment, with the small difference of the girl choosing everything and the gamma financing it, happy in the knowledge his life is complete now that has a wife. Over the next five years of marriage, as he is content in his idyllic scenario, Girl continues to play the wife role, albeit with some incidents;
- Two months after marriage, Girl returns to home country and meets ex-Beta. They spend two days together, most of it in a hotel room.
- Years 2 to 4: Three separate incidents of adultery, respectively two one stands, one while out ‘on a girls only night’, the second surrounded by a circle of men as she kissed one of her friends, where in her own words she ‘could’ve chosen any of them’ but surprisingly decided only to fuck one of them. In both cases she returned home same night in the early hours as though nothing had happened. The third case being an impromptu rendezvous in the communal bathroom with one of Gamma Man’s ‘friends’ he introduced her to.
- Year 5: Blissfully unaware of any of the previous incursions, Girl realises Gamma Man has regressed to the point of total acceptance. He has given her complete freedom to do whatever she chooses, with a guarantee he will accept. Sensing her withdrawal from the relationship, Gamma Man takes girl on all expenses paid holiday to the Seychelles. Then highlight of this is her grinding up between two locals where, in her own words ‘husband didn’t do anything’. I would wager his self confidence being utterly destroyed by this point as a contributing factor in that.
Returning home, in the coming days girl starts to tell Gamma Man how ‘she needs some space’ and so ‘will stay with friends some nights’. Gamma Man blindly agrees, even dropping her off and agreeing to pick her up at her whim. Another flurry of one-night stands occurs, followed by a regular arrangement with a new Beta (a married colleague) and a Sigma she met at the gym. In total, two regular fuckbuddies and an ongoing stream of one-night stands, as well as her faithful husband, Gamma Man.
Gamma Desperation
Girl decides to move out to be closer to two lovers. Gamma Man is distraught, but again questions himself and tries to understand what ‘he did wrong’ for this to happen. He promises to ‘change himself’ and assures her he will ‘always be there for her’. He helps move her stuff to her new apartment, buying her a washing machine and a dishwasher in the process. Over the following weeks, he proceeds to take her food shopping on a weekly basis, driving three hours each way to do this. He assists also with the purchase and construction of furnishings.
Girl repays Gamma Man, by continuing to sleep with Beta and Sigma regularly, to the extent of either of these visiting Girl within fifteen minutes of Gamma Man finishing his purely domestic duties and leaving.
As an aside, it’s worth mentioning here that Gamma Man has at least taken the step over the previous years to improve his body somewhat to the point where anyone would consider him ‘clearly physically fit’ on sight.
Girl decides she wants to get more serious with Sigma, and so informs Gamma Man how he should sleep with other people. She says she wants ‘more’ out of life. Finally, Gamma Man explodes, perhaps from receiving this final death knell for his prior ideal. He smashes small parts of her apartment, driving back home and stopping briefly to pick up some alcohol. He drives through the night, simultaneously drinking and texting essay-like messages to Girl, who doesn’t bother to respond. Gamma Man, not getting any response, escalates text by text until threatening to kill himself by driving into a wall.
In tandem, Sigma has practically laughed off any suggestion he wants to ‘get serious’ with Girl. She plays her final gambit, saying she is in love with him. Taken aback at such a casual usage of this phrase, along with the knowledge of how this very phrase is so abused in the world, his very Sigma nature content in the life he has built for himself, tells her casually ‘then we can only be friends, as I like sleeping with different people; and leaves.
Girl is distraught, mind racing for further offerings she can use to ensnare this man she cannot control. She shouts something again about love and unheard words that sound about an open relationship down the stairs.
Endgame
Remember this is all utterly true, and something I personally have seen time and time again. I could even say many years ago, I was gamma myself, promising the world to a girl, thinking I could make them happy by delivering anything they expected. The cost was, a void of love and attention unto myself.
I didn’t witness the conclusion of the above first hand, but I heard the girl was sleeping with someone else within two weeks, and had someone in her apartment the very next day after Sigma left. It was clear she was what is now unfortunately commonplace—a woman only seeking a challenge. That challenge being to serve and ultimately tame him. And this is unfortunately what I have found to be the case in the vast majority of the situations I’ve found myself in with girls over the years—they simply won’t respond to giving or accommodating behaviour. I’ve told girls to go fuck themselves, even pre-sex, accompanied with specific reasons why (essentially being very descriptive calling out their unacceptable behaviour), only to have them later contact me again as though that never happened and far more interested in escalating things to a sexual level. When it first started happening, I was genuinely surprised.
At risk of sounding like an over dramatisation, no one ever heard about what happened to Gamma Man. Presumably, he is still somewhere on this world, as Girl had been spotted around, looking as happy as ever. I can’t imagine someone could continue to live life so carefree knowing they were directly responsible for the mental torture they caused someone else.
So what are the defining characteristics of Alpha, Beta, Gamma, and Sigma? Are there any other classes I am missing?
I understand Alpha, but not really getting the differences between beta, gamma, and sigma.
I just want a better definition of these terms.
My take is-
Alpha is a guy who doesn’t support women financially or kiss their ass like some faggot
Beta is some fucking faggot who supports a woman financially in exchange for her “undying love”, LOL.
I get the alphabet thing.
What is the difference between gamma, beta, sigma? I’m not understanding the sub categories of beta.
I’m not understanding the sub categories either, but it’s all good.
To me the gamma beta sigma stuff sounds like some punk ass fraternities or sobeioritities. Just a guess tho. Typical college punks names along with d’shaun, shaniquea, laquishaaa….
Beta = Average guy, basic follower, most likely a normal guy that really isn’t a fervent supporter of feminism and the like but just goes with the flow. Think your average married father.
Gamma = He is the enemy. High intelligence combined with feminine mentality and behavior. This is the man that writes essays on the virtues of feminism and liberalism. The quintessential white knight. If you want examples in action just go to reddit.
Thanks for that definition. I understand better now.
Me either . That would be a good article. I heard there’s Zeta too. There needs to be a standardisation. Would make a good article
What’s sigma?
An example of a Sigma would be Han Solo. An alpha that has dominance and social skills but chooses solitude.
You subset Zeta minus cretin
The one that everyone in the manosphere aspires to be. Super unique awesome badass that doesn’t give a fuck about other people’s opinion while at the same time being superior to the vast majority of other guys.
Basically every action antihero ever made. Think Clint Eastwood, Steve McQueen.
If you want to visualize it do a search for “Pajama Boy”.
It’s not. Do a search for “socio-sexual hierarchy”.
For the purposes of this article, I have used the definitions given by Helen Smith in Men On Strike (pg. 21).
I’d recommend RoK readers have a look at this book. Written by a woman, it at least gives hope there are some of them not entirely indoctrinated by the Western White Woman’s recommendations for everyone else.
Helen Smith. Another goldigging cunt trying to profit from the suffering of men. All Women Are Like That.
Pajama Boy (as offered by Chateau Heartiste, but close enough… )
http://heartiste.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/twink1.jpg?w=500&h=250
Its the greek alphabet. Alpha=A, Beta = B..and so on..that’s why I dont get the story since “Sigma” is even worse than Gamma or Beta, if I get it right..
And the SIgma in this story was alpha..hmm
These dummy basement boys never hear of greek lol They go to state school where IQ is 80.
There is no way you go to Princeton.
1. What do you call the student id’s?
2. What eating club do most people go to after 2:00 AM? 3:00 AM?
yeah, I didn’t think you’d be able to answer. and I was right.
I can’t be bothered with all these sub categories either.
In my world there is the best and there is the rest.
End of.
The alpha is a leader, he imposes his rules and has followers, admirers. The sigma reject social expectations and is more of a lone wolf. Don’t think too much, most don’t bother with it and just call both alpha.
I sincerely believe some of us just weren’t meant to reproduce. It is not our responsability to guide inept men to the light, doing so would do a huge disservice to humanity. I wasn’t guided to the manosphere, but was brought to it trough multiple failure and a genuine desire to propel my seed into infinity. Some of us who weren’t blessed with symetrical features and a robust frame have the chance to showcase their intelligence trough game. This is why the acquisition of game is such a noble goal. However, we must push undesirables as far away from the truth as possible because they are, in many ways, the enemy.
Yes, this is what I am saying. Men who are that fucking weak, the “Gamma men”, do not deserve to reproduce because they will simply reproduce some weak beta children.
In the end, you can’t really blame women for using these stupid betas for their money. I am just as disgusted at these betas as the women are.
Dont agree. Ill never put females before my fellow men be they alpha, beta, zeta all that bullshit terminology. We are all just MEN.
“This is why the acquisition of game is such a noble goal.”
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Game only teaches men how to get laid in a Matriarchy. But it does nothing (and I mean nothing) to force women to look at themselves or what they or their predecessors have done to land us in this mess.
Game only calls men to improve themselves (by women’s standards, of course) while leaving women to think and behave as deplorably as they wish.
Game only treats the symptoms of the disease. It teaches men how to adapt to the disease and how to live with it. But it doesn’t heal the disease.
This disease can only be healed if BOTH men and women develop honor and integrity but Game does nothing in this regard. It may improve men’s situation by helping him get laid in a very toxic, feminazi environment, but the mental malaise of the modern Entitlement Princess continues encouraged and unquestioned and unabated.
Not very fertile ground for anything meaningful beyond pump-and-dump.
Game big joke grandma boy. Da you are loser and your defectiv seed will die with you. Thats selection of the fittest or dont you read Darwin. Game is just silly joke you play on self
This is very true… Almost exactly what happened to me and how she destroyed our 8 year marriage. The divorce was good though, we didn’t use lawyers and spit the money 50 / 50.
However the depression I went into cost me my remaining life savings and my career, and I’m still trying to pull myself out.
One difference was along the way she kept saying she was suicidal and needed treatment. I spent many years agonizing over all the suicide talk, desperatly trying to get help for her and hold her life and our marriage together.
It’s a sad thing, and I’ve always been a strong willed person who was good with women. But once your locked in a marriage with a woman with bad intentions and is just using you you’re pretty well trapped.
It took me a couple years just to pull myself together, figure out what happened and get my old self back.
I like the fact this site is attempting to have an honest conversation… I hope a few people here take a longer term view though. Do men have to stoop to the level of women who manipulate? From my experience after the divorce there are still a few decent women out there and they are easier to find once you have your eyes open…
Dude, your ex wife saying she’s “suicidal” is nothing but a ruse to GET YOUR ATTENTION. EVERYTHING women do is for attention, even their “suicide” attempts. I mean, women ATTEMPT suicide three times as often as men, and yet men actually kill themselves at 5 times the rate of women. What does that tell you? THeir whole “suicide attempts” are nothing but a cry for MALE ATTENTION.
Actually, it’s because women tend to attempt suicide through means of pills. That means that there is a much higher chance of failure, and they are found and given help.
Men often choose to end their lives with more final measures – like shooting themselves or jumping off a bridge.
The fact that you think that someone’s suicide attempt is a cry for attention is absolutely repulsive, and I have no qualms saying that the world doesn’t need more horrible people like you.
Well I know what I wrote is pretty strongly worded, but hey, the truth is pretty harsh sometimes.
Why do women get all depressed and “suicidal” after marriage? Because they start to hate themselves for settling for a beta, and this is basically because their sex drives are not satisfied. She’s not satisfied with the beta cock and she hates herself for not riding the alpha male cock carousel for a few years longer.
It wasn’t my intention to offend you, I am just writing the truth here, bro.
In the majority of cases, it is definitely a sense of hopelessness and despair, though there do exist some cases where it really is a cry for attention. Even then, the sort of “attention” they’re looking for is really more a cry for help, and beyond that, a want (out of lack) for a sense of community. They know that something is horribly wrong, but they have no idea what it is, and therefore, they don’t even know that there’s something that they can do about it. Nobody is truly beyond help. We’re all in this together.
Women’s “hopelessness” and “despair” comes from them hitting the wall at age 30 and not being able to attract alpha male attention anymore.
Easy there Dr. Phil. You sound like an emotional wreck, go to the bar.
Why do women get all depressed and “suicidal” after marriage?
Because they married a boring schmuck like you?
she kept saying she was suicidal
Find some drugs then give to her
I hear Rooskies like Krokodil
She didn’t destroy your marriage; you both did.
My marriage was great for 7 or 8 years and then she turned into a career/education obsessed bitch (my fault for supporting her furthering her education and getting an independent career, even though I was paying her a salary from my company). After a couple of years of tolerating the bitch, we were separated by police order after her best friend claimed I assaulted my wife when I happened to accidentally (lightly) bite her hand after she kept slapping my mouth trying to get me to shut me up as I was talking loudly and belligerently. 😀 After the undertaking to stay away from my home and family expired, and after the police dropping the frivolous charges, she begged me to return. I told her “fucking NO! I didn’t want your fucking friend and her stupid husband at my birthday camping trip! You knew I hated her husband, yet there they were! If it weren’t for them I’d never been falsely accused of spousal assault! Fuck you!” It wasn’t easy turning my back on a cute little family life, but it wasn’t worth sacrificing my principles. If she hadn’t turned into such a bitch I’d have returned, but fuck her. I’ve become a much better father as I focus on the kids.
Fuck women. Dump women.
I’m at the point where I no longer feel compassion or pity for anyone. This “Gamma man” guy sounds like such a pathetic beta, I would go so far as to say he DESERVES what he gets. I mean, any guy willing to tolerate that level of shit from a woman pretty much deserves it.
So no, I don’t feel any pity or desire to want to help the Gamma men of the world.
One of the most valuable lessons I learned from reading Marcus Aurelius’ symposium “Meditations” was saying that “one mustn’t punish a fellow man for a lack of knowledge. Is not stumbling around in darkness already punishment enough?” As a community of men (not only here on ROK, but in general), even if we do not explicitly help our fellow man, at the very least, let us not punish him without due cause.
Well guess what? I went around publishing tens of thousands of comments in different places on the internet, trying to “help my fellow man” wake up about how American/western women are trash.
Guess what 90 percent replied to me with? Hatred.
These stupid people will HATE ON YOU for trying to help them. So I finally said fuck it and gave up. After all, you can’t help people who do not WANT to be helped. You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink.
These dumb betas will never learn. So fuck them.
It is perfectly true what you say. The thing is, that if they don’t see the benefit in taking the red pill, as it has it, and embarking upon the process of self-development, then for sure, they’ll reject and hate, and hate hard. Show a man the benefits of helping himself, and he’ll listen
Yea that is the only way to get the attention of beta male idiots. Show them “Hey, if you learn game and follow this shit, you’ll be able to get hotter women”.
I was mainly preaching to men to go for foreign women because American women are crap. Holy shit dude, you should have seen some of the replies I got from women. American women absolutely HATE the truth. They HATE that men are learning the truth, that foreign women are vastly superior to american women.
Of course they do. It’s a threat to the only source of power and influence they have over men who shouldn’t be listening to them in the first place. The more people (specifically men) realize that feminism is a complete load of trash that poisons everything, the quicker their tiny little narcissistic world comes crashing to pieces. And for sure, there’s no denying that foreign women (i.e. outside the Anglosphere) are exponentially, logarithmically superior. I’m currently in Romania, and in the next couple weeks, I’m returning to Ukraine after having spent 2 months of the summer there. Life is tough in these countries, but oh my holly jolly are the women ever worth it
Well, my Boycott American Women blog pretty much embodied all of that. It was a MASSIVE threat to them, because it so blatantly and openly exposed the truth.
After all, we can’t have American men boycotting women and going for foreign women. Then American women would actually have to go out and get a fucking job and pay their own bills. They wouldn’t be able to parasite off of men anymore.
Please link; I’d love to read it
Just google “Boycott American Women” and you’ll see like 20 or 30 pages worth of results, that are full of angry women absolutely going apeshit about my blog. It’s really funny to read.
Excellent blog.
My thoughts entirely.
You’re so stupid. It’s fun. This site and especially the comments are great for lots of laughs. You guys are so damaged and complete jokes to the functioning world. You aren’t hard. You aren’t anything. You’re 9-5 losers who think you’re interesting because you’ve travelled. So has everyone else. After girls get tired of losers like you, they move on to real men who have a healthy attachment styles and weren’t fucked over by their mommies. They get married and have a nice life together. Betas (aka normal, healthy men) are happy and so are the former sluts. Your the people who end up all alone and everyone laughs at you like a dried-up drug dealer. Younger girls may use you for your money, but nobody takes you seriously. This site is a joke and so fun. Everyone knows what kind of boys you are in real life without the anonymity of the computer. If you’re so proud, post your picture and be real. You’re hurt little losers who are clinging on to something you hope might pan out. This isn’t going anywhere. It’s never gonna happen. You guys will stay in this exact spot, relegated to manosphere blogs in the corners of the internet with no real meaningful relationships or lives. Your mothers wish they aborted you and your dads wonder what went wrong. Once you grow up and tired of this silly bull shit, you’ll give it up and become exactly what you claim to hate aka a normal functioning man. You guys front so much and it’s so obvious. All women know men like you. You serve a very specific purpose. Nobody takes you seriously and you have no idea what to do in bed, which makes everyone talk behind your back even more. Your IQs and desperate desires to be seen as cool and smart and detached stink of pathetic loser. Some of you are just creepy serial killer rapists in your parents’ basement. To the men who are just in this phase right now, get out while you still can. There is still hope for you. You can recover.
Translation: Support me when I’m 30+. Save your money for my cat food and kitty litter.
I will fuck and suck anything right now, but I want to save you for when I need you later in life.
What I got out of your post was…..
Ad hominem
Ad hominem
Ad hominem
Ad hominem
And….more ad hominem.
If you want to try to argue, at least avoid the holy grail of logical fallacies.
LOL! Poor wittle baby Sarah! Did your boyfriend dump your fat ass for a hot Asian girl or something? Are you stuffing your face full of brownies and ice cream right now?
It’s so funny how you go all logical argument when you have nothing else to say. It’s a nice change from fucking bitch fucking slut. All of the sudden you’re a distinguished person who matters. Shut the fuck up and go do something real with your life.
LOL yes. She’s just some fat ugly bitch who hit the wall at age 30 and is pissed off that sites like RoK are trying to wake up men and stop them from making the mistake of marrying these damaged used up whores.
LOL Sarah! You are hilarious, baby.
Okay, let’s see what we have here:
Personal attack: check.
Sarcasm: check.
Name-calling: check.
Assumption of “disconnection from functioning world”: check.
Assumption of sad, unfulfilling life: check.
Assumption of “mommy-issues”: check.
Attack upon parents: check.
Attack upon sexual ability: check.
Usage of the word “creepy”: check.
Assumption of “living in one’s parents’ basement”: check.
Total lack of logic-based counter-argument, demonstrating a point: check.
Creating a false-dilemma without offering a solution to said dilemma: check.
Okay, so, honest question: do you have a script that you copy-and-paste off of?
it never ceases to amaze me how many people will reply to a troll. its a complete waste of time.
I find it ironic that you start attacking us with nonsense insults and don’t expect to be reprimanded.
It’s one thing to be a terrible litigant. It’s another to be a terrible litigant who provides nothing beneficial to a discussion.
I’m not actually, and most men will never wake up so those women are good too. This is all you guys have. You’re so one note. I actually really like this site. You’re a threat to nobody. You’re just full bullshit and nobody can take you seriously.
I know. It’s so funny. Predictable insecure men who can’t keep their mouths shut. And they call women sheep. No emotional control whatsoever. Just reactionary garbage.
There’s no dilemma. Everyone is fine and happy. You guys are the miserable ones. That’s why it’s funny to rile you up. I’ve never commented before but I was expecting more given how hard you guys try to sell yourselves. Such ridiculous children. Surprise us.
And gentlemen, I present to you Sarah. She’s the ugly chick holding the sign and wearing the gray sweatpants.
Yea it was good for some lulz.
Stop oppressing me with logic!
-Sarah88
Sarah88, the woman on the right.
“[usage of] logical argument when you have nothing else to say”
at this point, is it really even necessary to add anything…?
You are fat.
No I’m married. I’m out of the game completely. Life is good. Things change… You guys are so young and immature, nobody can worry about you too much. Silly little kids who meet women at bars and wonder why they all fuck you over. I’m submissive to my man and I’d do anything for him and he for me. We were just reading these comments together and having a great time. When we are bored we go onto this site and show friends. I’m cute and sweet and life is good. But I honestly feel compelled to save some of you who are just desperate and have nowhere to turn who aren’t too damaged. You’ll learn soon enough how it works and just get in line instead writing futile comments with someone who you claim to be intellectually superior to yet you can’t seem to make one decent point.
Seriously, do you see how this is not upsetting because I’m not fat? You guys are a non-factor. You can’t say anything hurtful. I’m just in the proper phase of my life to not have to deal with too many douches like you. If you keep working, you guys will eventually get the hang of all this. It will be ok. Just stop resisting.
Here is a pic of Sarah’s beta husband.
What a sad, pathetic little man.
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“Guess what 90 percent replied to me with? Hatred.”
And if you hadn’t been there, the remaining ten percent would still be blind.
You’re right brother. It’s a thankless task of trying to preach the truth, but the 10 percent who DID listen? Many of them thanked me and told me “You changed my life, you saved me”.
Can we stop bickering for a moment, I’ve been having a real question. This is real so just be a real person for a sec. Do women ever say “Oh, are you one of those red pill guys?” or anything like that? If they know do they care, or do you care? How do they respond? It seems like some of them wouldn’t sleep with you jus put of spite. How does this go down?
Fatty McFatFat.
I don’t feel reprimanded. You provide nothing beneficial to earth.
Sarah, the fat chick on the far right.
Where did all the good men go?
-Sarah88
She’s the wife of Fatty McAutism. You can sometimes hear the tales of Fatty McAutism on 4chan’s /ck/ page.
He’s the dude that gets all sperged out when he goes to fast food restaurants.
Too close to home, eh?
Apparently so.
Don’t be so strict on these grandma boys. They are good comedians when they play this game. It is so funny to watch. They are world travelers-Wallyworld hehe We Russian girl only like men not lettle boy who can’t even pay for dinner or drink.
Save a loser for later? Da Even at 30 girl is still more valuable than poosy grandma boy
I study medicine here at Princeton and we girls drink and read silly game site bullshit and laugh. Better than comeidia show and don’t have to pay
Ok, kids. You apparently aren’t capable of any real discourse. I hope you guys become happy and healthy and find some sort of meaning. For now, go outside and get a hobby. That might be a good place to start. In this realm, you have nothing new to offer, your comments all look the same. Fat slut is making me bored. Take care. I know if we saw each other in real life you’d all be polite and nice and friendly because you have no backbone, commenting on the internet like a bunch of lost children. Most of you are normal, nice guys, just been hurt and need to get through this phase to become real people. Take your time.
I’m actually really laughing right now. Sway you funny. Fatty Mcfatterson.
They do useful things like flip burger or dry my car at washing place then I give them 25 cent tip for being good boy and pat on head
Old woman with many kid? Aga!
Woman on left is not eastern woman. Maybe eastern africa. Is girl on right your twin sista?
Ah it sounds like stories I read when 10 about Holmes detective. It is deductive reasoning based on comments made by grandma boys.Elementary :o)
Haha you come on here with a huge bitchy rant about everyone then complain about why no one wants to argue with you intellectually. Failed troll, didn’t even laugh
Tubby
You cannot save. They are short, fat, ugly brute faced, poor, or black faced that no girl wants. They are so silly to think that other women around world want them lol All women want a man of class and education with money to provide. Only ugly fat fillopino peasant girl would accept loser grandma boy and then only to milk him like cow
How telling of the state of affairs when med students drink and read self admitted “silly game site bullshit” who can’t spell comedic and are so easily entertained by a discussion that they were not invited to and are the brunt of the joke.
Your delusion of grandness is funny. Get out of cellar you grandma boy.
Serial killer rapist; how do you know our m.o? We lurk in dark alleys preying on women like you -the wounded animals at the watering hole. We crave to cut the skin off your flesh like a steak at dinner. And finally break your spirit with our poisoned seed.where we will impregnate you with our demon spawn.
The problem is that you can attempt a verbal assault like that, but have no actual means of attack.
Your ignorance regarding this website paints you as one of the throwaway females we come to expect, with their half-hearted attempts to dissaude people like me from the preferred way to live. Though it is obvious we are the type of men most likely to succeed, in all areas.
Because it fucking terrifies you to think of well-adjusted males advanced themselves to a point where women like you could barely register as a blip on our radar, who sail by on entitlement, not bothering to cultivate a life that anyone could conceivably give a fuck about.
Troll meter 1/10
Are you describing feminism? Good work, someone should record that as a definition.
You study medicine? lolzlolzlolz
Looking closely at ecstasy and xanax pills before you take them to make sure they’re not roofies is not the same as studying medicine
“You guys are so damaged and complete jokes to the functioning world. ”
Why then are you replying on them and waisting your precious time. Wouldn’t that make you an even bigger joke?
Damn, if only I hadn’t have commented on that topic. I could have built a Fortune-500 company from the ground up in those 30 or so seconds.
Actually, it’s because that’s what people do when they have real points to make. They make arguments and provide evidence. Your solipsistic projection is adorable, though.
You’re guilty of what you are accusing of. Don’t piss down my throat and tell me it is raining love.
Amusement?
If I may just add one more thing on here to guys- don’t you see how stupid you look responding to a woman? That you took so much time to post these pictures and so many comments? A real man who is actually about what he says he is about would never waste their time responding to somebody who they know is so “beneath them.” This is your tell. This is how we know you aren’t legit. Your persona crumbles anytime you’re pushed. You engage because you have to. Act like real men if that’s what you’re saying and quit squabbling with people trying to piss you off. It makes you look so weak. You’re so easy to upset. You pretend not to care but show your hand by engaging so much, especially with women. Stop caring and maybe eventually a few people will actually take you seriously. At least until they get to know you better. You guys are an embarrassment to your gender and everything you claim to be about.
Most of the time during Red Pill discussions, women will pretend to be offended and make ad hominem attacks (as you’re quite familiar with). Afterward, they keep reaching out and contacting you (as you’re also familiar with), and some of them end up fucking you. It’s quite awesome to see the facade shatter into a puddle of pussy juice on your bed.
You’re like the kid that complains he got burnt because he touched a lit candle.
“I’m submissive to my man”
He’s one of us. Though he’d never let on.
Yes, except secure. That’s the only difference.
Appearances can be deceiving.
i love it when girls call me a loser – it brings a huge smile to my face…. loser = guy that cannot be manipulated….. ah.. there’s the mommie’s basement comment… your words should be encapsulated in the RoK hall of fame…
It’s raining love. See you later sweetie pie.
and that’s why you are here banging away on the forums… on a weekend night…. nice…. your life must be real balanced…..
Thank you, asshole. That was very helpful. I look forward to learning more. I find this stuff fascinating and I value your response.
“Better than comeidia show and don’t have to pay”
Damn, so you’re at Princeton studying medicine while:
1. you’re writing skills are poor to say the least. You write like a Russian that just arrived.
2. Obviously have time to squander on “game site bullshit” and maintaining you’re drinking habit (not unuseal for a Russian/East-European).
3. You actually do have to pay. Look up “opportunity costs”, shouldn’t be a problem for a smart girl like you.
Are you sure the P of Princeton shouldn’t be a B. I heard they have a Brinceton up there in Siberia.
oh.. no … please…… not a logical argument… oh my god….
I am not sure one’s decorum on a disqus thread is really the measure of a man.
there are hundreds of well thought out and insightful articles on RoK, many of them not related to female issues at all……
we ain’t miserable…. we identified the problem and then started doing something about it…..
Ray- there exists time zones. That means it may not be the same time for both of us right now. I know, take it in for a minute. But I do really have to go now so good luck.
alot of guys on here including myself are much older, more experienced and professionally trained than you realise… i turned over $20M in business last week, and I only worked on Friday because of NYE….
You come on here trolling and ranting, and all of a sudden you’re a philosopher? Nobody’s going to intellectually debate with you, because you already showed your ass on a forum where you are a guest.
Also, you claim to be a submissive woman to your man. If this were true then one would think you’d agree with most of the content on this site, not hate it. This leads me to believe that you are a giant troll or just confused
Ms Brinceton, do you have an article allergy? Look up “article” and use them. Makes your writing readable
I’d fucking love to meet a girl who could pay for their own drink, are you mad?
Wow. You’re a Bitch
Princeton has no medical school.
Ill bet she has the “roast beef” syndrome down there. How bout it Sarahkins? Lil Arbys betwixt your divine legs?
Wow Sarah — Have you seen a doctor about those nipples? They look kinda deformed.
That’s a chick?!
You have to be tactful and gentle, Joe. You can’t just aim to win arguments and tell people they’re wrong, even if that’s the truth. If you’re sincerely interested in other people’s welfare, consideration should be made not just to what you say, but how you say it.
“I’ve never commented before”
Liar too. Ive seen your troll comments here lots of times.
Its ok; All of us know that all the attractive and desirable females would be out doing something fun with their men on a Saturday…
…Not spending it instigating trouble with a bunch of men you do not know, on an as you put it bleak little corner of the Manosphere.
Try not being such a bitch. Maybe someday you might get a boyfriend.
I believe that she mentioned that she was 19 and will be taking the MCAT in Spring so she is still well ahead of the average student and will enter med school in the autumn at Robert Wood Johnson
I wouldn’t criticise her pajama boy because you can barely speak or write in English while she speaks a number of languages. Let’s see how well you do in Russian.
Sooo..let me get this right.
Sarah and her “man” spending Saturday night reading RoK comments together and having a “great time”.
LOL.
Id love to see this faggot.
Yawnnnn…
Somebody wake me up when the shaming language is over…
LOL
Why did you have to post this photo? Try a trigger warning next time. Seriously.
She sure doesnt speak English.
And..hows your Russian by the way Boomy Boy?
Or were you too busy having drinks with Demi Moore to study it. LOL.
Yay. Thats all this country needs… more young dumb cunt drunk Russian medical students.
Sarah, you must bear in mind that what you’re reading here is the bottom 20% of men, the real losers. These pajama boys with their $5 Walmart slippers rarely get out of their mama’s basement or tenement flats. As soon as they are fully grown and out of adolescent metabolism they will have pot bellies, if they don’t already have them now. They’re misfits who can’t even talk to a female without stammering, sweating and turning red (the black ones just drool) Before the advent of cheap computers and internet about 15 years ago these were the types who were holed up as hermits and read comic books or watched Batman films on VHS. If they got lucky they’d find an old Hustler mag in some dumpster to jerk off to while the other teen boys were getting real pussy.These kooks make Robert Ackley look like a sophisticated man of the world and ladykiller lol Yes, it would be amusing to see their pics and where they live.
Sarah88, I’m a father of three children still married and living with my first wife. Since I discovered this and similar sites and took the red pill my relationship with my wife has improved because I no longer let her get away with as much solipsistic behavior. She appears to be happier. Sarah, you apparently haven’t yet experienced a relationship with a truly masculine man. If you ever do, then you might understand.
Is that your mama when she saw what she hatched?
Sil- they definitely wouldn’t agree. You are submissive to a man who deserves it. You choose wisely and humble yourself to that person. I would never end up with someone who doesn’t care about me and thinks I’m not a person. The way you guys talk- so disrespectfully and so full of anger- it’s so gross and unattractive. It’s desperate and it just seems like, you’re hurt. You have the secure part right, maybe even some of the asshole not caring part in the beginning, but eventually you have to be a real person and get with the program. If you find a real woman who is cool and takes care of herself and has stuff to offer, don’t be stupid and pass it up so you can be sixty at a club having people make fun of you trying to take girls home who use you for drinks. Nobody wants you in the club. It’s not to settle down and have a nice life. And you don’t have to exert all of this energy putting on this exhausting facade you guys keep doing, when it’s so clear. And the sweeping generalizations about women are so lame. Women are not all monster sluts who want to hurt you, and if act like that, you’re missing out. There’s plenty of nice, not used up, loyal, cute women if you look in the right places. You guys sound like you have terrible pickets so nobody can take you seriously. I like a lot of the movement of men returning to being masculine men and I do believe men and women play different roles, but men protect and care for women, not belittle them. I bring in a lot of money and so does my husband, and I don’t expect to pay for me or buy me things but he does because I’m good to him. You can find that too if you grow out of this phase. I too hate women who have tons of babies and steal child support.
You really sound bitter and jealous. Aside from working as a Walmart Greeter, assuming that anyone would even hire a geek like you, what is your highest level of education?
I wouldn’t warn anyone. Machiavellianism, gents.
Life is war and any advantage, in this case the gamma chumps, should be exploited to the fullest. You said it earlier, these chumps deserve their misery. Make full use of them when you need them: fuck their wives and girlfriends, take their shit, rip them off, have them pay for and raise your spawn …. whatever you’ve gotta do.
But when they’ve outlived their usefulness, kick them to the curb. Hard. They’ll never learn and they have to know their place.
Yes, I met guys like you before when I was younger and used to go out. You have sex behind your wives’ backs and younger girls make fun of you and take your money. You have no meaningful relationships and have never been fully honest or vulnerable in front of anyone in your whole life. It’s a lonely existence. That’s cool that you made a lot of money. Lots of people make money and some of them are jerks and some are great. Some get used for their money and some find someone nice to respect who is worthwhile. You don’t have to justify to me why you’re working.
You’re so funny. We are OLDER, as I’ve said many times, We don’t go to bars pretending to be young. I have no interest in that scene anymore. I don’t want to be an old lady at the bar. Plus I have nothing in common with those patrons anymore. Tonight we’ll go out to eat and then get drinks like normal people our age who have money. And after that I have a date to do our laundry. And I make his lunch everyday- it’s a wild existence, it’s what you have to look forward to if you’re lucky. It’s calm and a nice change from the fun craziness of our 20’s. I highly recommend it. And you can say that all you want, but my man is very handsome and has a nice body (I can see that V of muscle that women love that most men cant get). I got lucky and so did he.
Haven’t seen the old girl in years. I spoke to Maria and met her in Morristown and can tell you that she’s even better looking in person and speaks perfect English, not with some ebonic or goofball Podunkian accent like yourself. She’s not accustomed to writing on a non Cyrillic keyboard. Oh and btw, I have never seen a Russian girl, or for that matter an American girl, drunk or puking. That’s must be a lower class thang, the sort of females that you would know.
“I went around publishing tens of thousands of comments in different places on the internet”
And the world did not appreciate your Alpha Internet Warrior ways.
How sad for you.
Carlos that’s what you don’t get. I would NEVER talk to my husband this way. He deserves and demands way more. The disrespectful men here don’t deserve anything from any woman or person. Your wife would know these men are douches as well. But my man is a secure alpha who doesn’t need to flash his dick around everywhere because he already knows he’s the shit. And that’s why I’m with him. He’s a man. I’m sure you wouldn’t treat the mother of your children how these men speak to women, even without provocation.
Hello Princess, we’ve been waiting for you.
The type of woman you describe- who is young, cute and not used up, who chooses a good husband wisely and is good to him, is almost impossible to find in the US.
Not only that, but even if a man were to find one, marriage and child laws in the US make it an incredibly raw deal for any man to get married or have a long term relationship. Being nice to a woman, particularly in the US, doesn’t make her reward you, it makes her get bored of you and go suck some other guy’s dick who she perceives as being more manly.
Women who steal child support and have tons of babies, is pretty much the norm here.
P.S.
By sixty I’m going to be a millionaire chilling on my yacht with all the girls I want, so I don’t have to worry about being that guy at the club.
These STEM geniuses haven’t figured that out yet lol
You can have all the manginas you want and we’ll stick with the women we like and avoid women like you. Our groups are completely mutually exclusive, yet you come here begging for our attention. This is hilarious, how desperate do you need to be?
Yes, many of these boys do verge on the hysterical, but that’s probably due to a lack of sex. Even the fat girls have some standards.
Do statements like the above even get a rise out of anyone in 2014? All this ” you live in your mamas basement” junk has gotten very tiresome.
Deep down I wonder about the motives of the females and sexless manginas who write such. What makes them angrier, the exposure of their own dysfunction or the threat of beta males learning the truth and improving themselves/ pulling top quality ass.
Sil, nobody is young forever. And I hope you have your yacht. Sounds like it won’t bother you one bit to be used for your money and have people laughing at you behind your back for your old balls that you still try to use on coked up women half your age.
Yes, the laws here stink for men. It’s sad. But not all women are bad. But instead of you guys continuously complaining, move to Eastern Europe then and do something about it.
I can assure you that the average female doesn’t even know that these loser blogs exist, or that these losers exist. They are invisible to her. Real men never use this red /blue pill crap that was taken from some kid film either. And you can forget about how a woman would think about them because a normal woman wouldn’t be caught dead even talking to one of these stumblebums. Sleep with? hahaha
LOL please. This is a nice site and it’s good to know there are some men trying to become MEN and not the wimpy guys that marry girls like you. I’ll take my men strong and dominant. You can have your “nice guys.” 🙂
Mine is a phd. That doesn’t mean anything. Education credentials by themselves don’t tell us whether it not someone is a fool.
Anyone who still denies game in 2014 is an outright fool. Jesus Christ I think about the shit I’ve convinced these WhoWars to do and it’s just sad, really.
Did you save that pic on your pc to wank to? lol
You’re very kind. In real life I wouldn’t even let one of these geeks shine my Gucci shoes. They’re liable to fuck that easy job up and ruin my shoes lol
Haha I’m not a sucker, I know how not to be used for my money. You think I buy girls drinks at bars or something?
I came here from eastern europe because my family was hoping for a better life. In many ways, it is better but in some ways not so much.
Being nice to women gets you absolutely nothing in life. I’m going to milk this world for as much money, power, and hot sex as I can before I die.
You really think people are laughing at guys like hugh hefner or guys that are CEO’s of huge corporations? Guys want to be them and girls want to suck them
Mucilage prefers men or fat girls
No. My beliefs are only truly evident once a relationship has been established, in which case the woman can choose to continue as a casual sex partner and look for commitment elsewhere, or cut all ties. I do not do committed relationships and I don’t desire female friends. I also don’t bother explaining any of this to women. We are together for a purpose- a woman is either dtf or gtfo.
You do have a point… A lady must be very careful who she lets near her designer shoes.
I love it when these losers sit on their flabby arses and play games like little kids. It’s guys like me who are shagging those girls on the bench lol
You tip them? Even at min wage they are overpaid.
You’re not those negative things, asshole. You’re sweet. Yes, I love trashy internet sites and conflict. I can’t stay away sometimes.
I’ve never run into that, and often prompt the discussions myself. I have handed Matt Ridley’s The Red Queen and The Mystery Method to girls to read, and they typically find the material fascinating, relevant, and useful. Makes for interesting conversation afterward.
Don’t flatter yourself sonny. Girls don’t even know you’re alive.
It is amazing how there is absolutely nothing to these creeps.They’re like hollowed out boys with no brains or personality (except that herd mentality) which is why no normal female would even want to be seen talking to them.They’re the bottom of the barrel and delude themselves into thinking they are kings lol how funny is that?
Honey Hugh is gross. His body is gross. He was cool when he was younger. But now he is going to die soon and he is having an existential crisis.
Shutup stupid, you’re making a fool of yourself. Quit while you’re behind.
Paint him black and it would be YOU.
Hear hear!
Yeah you say that but how many playboy girls do you think he’s fucked? And still fucking?
Yes you’re right, they are all butthurt little pajama boys who are mad at the world.
60? You can’t get it up now so why would you even want a woman. Keep dreaming loser.
So how does it feel to be a white knight begging for attention from internet girls by agreeing with all their comments?
These dummies have no idea what the East is like or what the women are like, it’s all a big kid fantasy to them. If you’re a loser in the US you will still be a loser in E Europe and perhaps even a bigger loser because those girls are a lot better educated and sophisticated then the typical US girls and won’t fall for your bullshit.
So what Eastern European slum are you from? The same places that Roosh hangs out in? And btw fellah, people make money regardless of where they live if they are competent and know what they’re doing. You apparently don’t
I agree to certain extent of the things you say, but my problems are twofold:
1) “There’s plenty of nice, not used up, loyal, cute women if you look in the right places.”
No there aren’t. I would love to meet those kind of women, but those women are almost non-existent. I would say that only about 3% of women would meet those qualities of being decent (I live in Feminist Republic Canada). Why do we have to tolerate such shortage of decent women? And we’re attacked because we decide to go for the sluts?
2) If you’re too forward, you’re called creepy. If you play safe, you don’t get anything. If you’re confident and masculine, you’re an asshole and a douche. But if you’re too nice and respectful, girls take advantage of you and disrespect you. I can’t speak for everyone here, but that’s one of the reasons why I’m here: To find the right balance. There’s no one and nothing else out there that teaches you how to best interact with women to develop relationships. There’s no one out there teaching us about masculinity. You assume that there’s some sort of an obvious alternative out there for men. There aren’t any.
Ok tough guy, you can let those e-muscles deflate now because I don’t care.
Im sure all these females posting think you’re really cool for defending them, congrats
Hell yes “No and yes”.
Men who are this stupid as this Gammafag guy deserve to suffer. In fact, I think I enjoy watching them suffer. I have no desire to help them. My pain is constant and sharp, and I do not hope for a better world for anyone. In fact, I want my pain to be inflicted on others. I want no one to escape.
Why is it always MY fucking comment which brings on the feminist trolls?
It has always been like this. 2 years ago, I was at that MGTOW forum and I accidentally posted some bitch’s blog link on there. As a result, she got the entire forum deleted. They were pretty pissed at me.
Why is it that my words are so sharp and cutting that feminist bitches can’t seem to help but reply to them?
I seem to have some special gift for pissing off feminist women.
Sup bitch. Where you at? Wanna meet me in my parent’s basement so you can look at what a tiny little penis I have?
Don’t believe the bullshit you read here.Turned over probably means that he was some prole clerk in a bank and they used him to count the money lol
its amazing how the unconscious mind has a counter to every argument….. you spoke of the ‘boys’ on here being so immature and young and yet much of RoK is 30+ trained professionals that happily date and sleep with and sustain relationships with women…. without putting up with entitled and feminist behavior…
it’s as simple as that really…. don’t change the subject or try to categorize me… you know nothing about me…. in my world there is no such thing as lonely and i don’t need 10 BFFs on rotation or 1000 facebook friends liking my lunch to validate me…
nor do i need to talk down to someone in a patronizing and critical tone … good men are loyal – good women are faithful… fact of life – get over it….. men like to fuck – if their wives / girlfriends aren’t feeling horny.. fair enough, but don’t expect them to stay home and read the newspaper… nothing wrong with that….
LOL. Yes, we’ve all been waiting for Princess to show up on this blog and give us the tremendous privilege of having her association.
We’re honored, Princess Sarah, that you would grace us lowly mortals with your uplifting and divine presence.
He should act his age and stop making a fool of himself
I don’t know how many playboys he has fucked
I thought PanchoGringo was one of us? Is he just a regular mangina troll here? Anyway I don’t really keep up with the comments here too much. Too much shitposting.
That’s quite a conundrum lol
Grandma boys? You sound like some retarded ass Russian immigrant who doesn’t even know how to speak proper modern American English.
Christ, learn how to speak without sounding like a fucking faggot from the 19th century, Mashenka.
i doesn’t matter what i do… it matters that she categorized everyone on here as some angry 18 year old, and that’s clearly not the case…. anyway… who gives a shit.. live and let die…. if you don’t wanna learn nothin’ from me… i sure as hell ain’t got anything to learn from you….. other than not to waste any more time…..
Yes sir, I am trying to be a bit more mild mannered in my speech. Actually, we should try to offend no one. Of course, if people are offended by the TRUTH, that is their fault. But we should not intentionally antagonize them.
Dodo you’re not that good looking or interesting
Well, my Boycott American Women blog
hahahahahahaha
men tend to speak in a far more harsh and matter of fact way, especially when talking amongst themselves…. just as women have coffee mornings and blather on about nothing much and coo about the new baby clothes they got for little jimmy… while most men would roll their eyes…. there is nothing wrong with either….. but one sex cannot necessarily understand the others attitude… don’t try to understand a language that you are not biologically equipped to …..
He’s a basement geek and is too stupid and socially inept to understand that. He’s like that dummy on Rainman.
Haha, you must be one of the more convincing feminist trolls, you’re genuinely malicious.
Geez, gamma much there jon dork?
Seriously you’re STILL here ?
Something hit close to home with this article.
Ok but I actually really haven’t. Never at all as me or anyone else. It was just time to comment and see what happened. Prove what you’re saying or come with something real.
Yes, I’m privileged and things work out well. I have a PhD. It is my weakness to read trashy sites and sometimes comment. I’m older so I’m boring now, and that is fine. I do like some articles on this site, but the comments are sad. You guys will NEVER organize and make something of yourselves as a movement. It’s obvious from the comment sections where you all rip each other to shreds and can’t get along to save your lives. You are not united and have no idea what you want. This will never amount to anything.
I thought you said you were going? Why do you feel that it’s so important for you to impose your unpleasant presence in this male space? I personally believe that every girl has the right to be ugly, but you have abused that privilege.
I agree with everything you said. I don’t know anything about you, I was on the defensive and on a roll. Hopefully people don’t need Facebook friends to feel to be ok, or to count their “notches” like desperate nerds and post them. How immature is that? You don’t know anything about me either. I don’t think you’re bad, but your colleagues here are not becoming. Hopefully you don’t hang out with them in real life and sounds like you will continue do ok.
American boy speak ба́бушка A-OK. You spell “babushka” and understand plenty fine.
Спасибо.
I am a girl. I definitely don’t want to suck Hugh Hefner.
What a stupid, lying cunt. As Karl Hungus says, Princeton does not have a medical school. You weren’t even smart enough to Google and verify your lie before posting it? Do you think we are so stupid as to accept the blatant lies of an obviously pissed off and offended woman such as yourself? Pathetic.
….except that Princeton doesn’t have a medical school.
4 hours ago in Eastern Standard Time Zone (where NJ is located) it was about 7 PM, on a Saturday, which would make it a “weekend night”. Seriously, you’re making yourself look very foolish.
Hey Sarah,
In NJ, it was 9PM when you posted this, on a Saturday night, thus refuting your earlier point about not being on your PC on a Saturday night do to “different time zones”.
Previously you were “studying medicine at Princeton” (which has no medical school) and now you have a PhD? Wow you got through school in just a few hours! Can you teach me how to do this? And how to have an amazing social life when you’re replying to a site you think is full of garbage on a Saturday night? Maybe you can tell me about my mommy issues and that I live in my mothers basement—-except that I am in Poland right now, living in an AirBnb apartment I rent by them month, far away from women like yourself. I guess I’m miserable over here too, right? 😉
Like a million. But I don’t think he can anymore. Have you seen him lately? Like really recently? He looks more and more like a really old, frail man. He had a nice life other than that as we’ll surrounded by people he cared about. I was there. Few times, it was neat. It’s cool that he always had beautiful women surrounding him and had a lot of sex, but he wasn’t a jerk to those women. He took care of them. These are the women you guys hate. “Sluts” that will do anything for fame and money. But you guys advocate not pleasuring women, not giving her anything, treating her like shit, and putting on a thin front that nobody believes. He was authentic and himself. I don’t hate on men who like to do it, that’s cool. But you can have a lot of sex, be dominant and confident, and not act so insecure, immature, and generally pathetic.
I do get it. It’s tough. I understand what you’re saying. It’s hard, and the way we live makes it harder. I don’t like slutty women anymore than you do but they’re just the opposite side of the same coin. I just mean you can be confident, cool, secure, and dominant without being so awful and unpleasant like these guys are. You gotta just be confident, quiet and secure until you find someone you can be really vulnerable with. A girl who looks up to you and wants to meet your every need, not some loud ass girl who talks crap about you behind your back with her friends. They do exist. When you’re ready hopefully you’ll find one, I don’t think they spend too much times at bars though. Those girls will fulfill your prophecy so it’s self-serving to find them there.
Oh Ray. Don’t be so bitter. I was just starting to understand. But you’re right, obviously I went into to this ready for a fight and knowing it was not welcomed. Yes men talk the way they talk, but this harsh is extreme. Best wishes. PS I hate talking about baby clothes
Thank you!
Oh honey, sad. These guys think you’re a thirsty skank. And you’re buying right into it by picking a fight with another woman for no reason.
You can’t save everyone. But at least you rescued the 10%. And you did your best which is all anyone can ever do in these circumstances.
Yeah, what’s the opposite of a motivational speaker? That’s you.
I keep coming back, I’m addicted to insulting you. But I guess this has devolved enough so I really should go. This is has been great for me, I’m sure it was for you too.
It’s due. I’m in HI. It’s till early. But I did come back for more.
That wasn’t me. That was another commenter who said that dumb dumb.
A lot of the “red pill, blue pill” stuff is useless. I think it’s a good analogy for learning to see the world as it really is, but I wish it would stop being used for everything (which I have been guilty of).
The “red pill” is better termed “education.” Educate yourself about the world and how it truly is. Learn some game. Don’t be afraid to be a man. The red pill is basically speaking your mind and not being afraid of what other people think (in most circumstances… if you do this to your boss, you’re a moron).
The blue pill is always being afraid to express your masculine nature and always being worried about everyone’s opinions of you. It’s better termed ignorance. Yes, you should be aware of them and you shouldn’t grossly violate social norms… basic sense here. There’s a difference between being aware of what people think and caring about it.
Again, the whole idea of a group of men working to educate each other and so on is good. I wish more men were like this. However, we don’t accomplish anything with the “red pill” vs. “blue pill” nonsense and bitching constantly about feminism and it’s effects. We accomplish things through action, and showing other men the truth.
Yes, the current system is unfair to men. To me, our efforts should be focused on showing this to men, rather than just going after feminism with every attempt. One of the core tents of feminism is that men and women should be equal, which they should be. I would hope that everyone supports that. The issue we have is that the pendulum has swung too far. Rather than let things take their natural course (which is what is happening with gay “marriage” because people are getting tired of the argument), governments have reacted by extending rights to women that men don’t get, either by law or by popular acclaim.
If you make fun of women, you’re a misogynist. If you make fun of men, it’s acceptable. This is what needs to change, and the only way I see this being done is by the publication of something akin to the Feminine Mystique. Much like with any social movement, we need to stop demonizing people and simply start looking at actual ways to effect change.
So what can we learn from “Sara”?…
AWALT!!! ALL WOMEN ARE LIKE THAT!
Even the ones who have a PRETENSE of maturity, intellect, and decency. Even those who’ve aged.
—-Cliff notes from the progression of this discussion…—-
-Over age 40. Demonstrably still has the same issues as younger girls.
-“88” Would seem to be an implied birthdate, a lie about age. Dishonesty, not a virtue.
– Childish behavior with this post. Countless mischaracterizations and insults. Toxic, destructive, useless.
-Pretense of maturity, calmness. Obviously pissed off, or she wouldn’t have posted so long. Huge personal nerve hit. Then a progression of defensive rationalizations for her childish post, and pseudo-philosophy.
-She implicitly advocates legal prostitution as the way a man should be. “You advocate not giving her things”. “Hugh Hefner treated women right”. etc.
-Hypocrisy in terms of expectations. She advocates both masculinity, and servitude to women on the part of men.
-Solipsism and ignorance. She is either delusional, or completely ignorant about younger generations of women (and almost certainly also about how she herself used to be in her own younger years). She has no idea how a 20
year old girl really behaves in 2014, not a fucking clue. And she has no idea of what the modern man has to deal with in terms of dating and marriage prospects. She projects a perceived image of herself on to younger women, with complete ignorance of their actual nature. And uses that as a basis for scorning younger men.
-Really all about her own arrogance and superiority, and not about compassion for other people.
I find your repulsive comments just as pathetic as the men you describe. Every man with an opinion you disagree with is not some “creepy serial killer rapist.” Maybe you two just disagree.
I agree with a lot of what’s written by the author. Slutty women don’t make the best wives, especially the opportunistic adulterous ones. They make even worst friends imo.
“You’re a threat to nobody.”
Then why not just laugh and leave? I’m not being antagonistic; however, your actions are quite contradictory to your words. If something is benign, it is generally ignored.
The left women is black and has gorgeous bone structure. Her eyebrows are even lovely.
If the men here are losers, then why are you commenting so much. Why don’t you just go where all the tall hot studs hang out on the Internet.
I’ll admit that the only reason why I’m commenting is because I ran out of Candy Crush Saga lives. Well, I’m done here for now. You can find be at Sexy Back Pharaohs reading advice on how to marry a legit top 20% McSteamy.
Western Women are getting obsolete..I understand your desperation.
what would you to if all men would become alphas anyway? from what I’ve learned on this side alpha males have an incredible success with girls, make a huge amount of money and can’t stand a nine-to-five-job. Unfortunately, I don’t believe the world could make use of billions of CEOs : /
*do
That’s a “no true scotsman” logical fallacy
Hmn….after I’ve read all the comments I tend to believe Sarah is troll made up by a RoK-reader to prove how feminists are all stupid, snappy bitches who can’t cope without bringing up mummy-issues.
Sure, I don’t talk to her about red pill stuff, I just act it. Instead of asking her permission to do stuff for myself, I just do it. If she acts selfishly I tell her about it instead of holding it inside because I’m not afraid anymore about offending her. I lead and she follows and she appears to prefer it this way. She belittles me and complains far less than she did before.
You should change your avatar to Mr Rorschach.
Oh Sarah, Sarah, Sarah.
Your codes have been decrypted and your ways are well known to us.
I actually wish a better life for you and I believe that one day in the distant future you will achieve it.
But first you need to grow up.
Dear.
You really are a sage.
Its a pity we disagree about ole Ayn Rand.
For someone who doesn’t give a fuck you have spent a lot of time replying to so called douches.
I say ignore Sarah, why feed her feminist logic. Go and enjoy a candlelight brunch with you beta husband. I’m sure between jacking off to porn he loves you for being just the way you are.
Actually working on my Level III CFA at the moment if you know what that is. You actually seem like the one a bit stand-offish here tonight – did Demi Moore stand you up Boomsy?
I am not interested in your proclivities.
Personally I just enjoy bashing females for the pure fun of it. Remember those inflatable clown punching bags we had when we were kids? You know, the ones with weight at the bottom.
And as far as the “shaming language” goes..
..You seem to have no qualms about using it on us here on RoK on a fairly consistent basis.
Guess us internet freakazoids all get our jollies one way or another eh Boomtown?
See, this is the issue. You think we are banding up to be anti-feminism. We don’t give a fuck about feminism, it’s about self-mastery which is as much an independent pursuit as a group one.
Comments on a website betray precious little.
Are you as pathetic as you sound? I mean, anyone with a spare piece of grey matter could deduce that if we are not the top 10-20% then the prolific among us, are in the very minimum, above average.
You want to try flirting with words some more?
You know behind a wall of makeshift assault there is actually glimpses of knowledge. If only you went about it differently from the start.
Gee, so you mean we have all been going about this all the wrong way?
I am going to start acting like a real man then. Like you. So I can have drinks with Demi Moore. Like you. Man, she looked so hot in Charlies Angels getting out of that F40 dude.
So I am going to start learning from you. Can you be my mentor.
Because I know now that bashing the manosphere and being an old pussified arrogant twat is the ticket to getting me laid.
Oh, that and a pair of Gucci shoes.
Go back to russia you illiterate cunt.
Oh dont be so hard on her. After all she isnt used to using a non-Cyrillic keyboard — or using anything but her roast-beef loooking pussy for advancing in life.
You sure love hanging out with us though dont ya bro. Right up until BoomersGreatest got the Big Ban anyway — then ya came back for more!
No, the girl on the right looks Russian to me.
Wow Sarah.
I am truly touched. By reading this comment I can see that deep down inside you are really a sensitive, caring person that really is interested in helping us and saving all of us lonely, unattractive males from a sad life.
Because, to be honest with you. Thats all we dream of too, to have a wonderful, honest, caring relationship with someone nice. Since you have a Phd, live in Hawaii, have a great man that is submissive to you and you to him, and yet find the time and the kindness in your heart to offer you advice — let me give you, on behalf of all the guys here at RoK, our deepest thanks.
Cunt.
Then the 90% deserve what they will get.
Yep, a threat to nobody, which is why people try to shut down this website all the time.
“Do women ever say “Oh, are you one of those red pill guys?””
“Who’s that confident guy?”
“your dads wonder what went wrong.”
Actually, my father shook my hand and laughed when I told him I refused to return to my bitch ex-wife, and now he’s considering getting a divorce from his nagging old bitch (my mother, and she does nag the fuck out of him and make his life miserable).
“Once you grow up and tired of this silly bull shit, you’ll give it up and become exactly what you claim to hate aka a normal functioning man.”
You’re making the grave error of assuming we’ll grow up. We will always like young tight pussy and thankfully there’s the retirement village called Pattaya. 😀
The fact is, men with money don’t have to put up with bitchy bullshit, and won’t.
I notice that the number of Fans and Followers are slowly increasing. Excellent!
“If I may just add one more thing on here to guys- don’t you see how stupid you look responding to a woman? That you took so much time to post these pictures and so many comments?”
You posted at least twice as many comments as his and he’s spending time on a website he likes, you’re here because you’re offended.
I don’t think he minds, a dozen girls far more attractive than you are lining to suck him.
Ive seen many men like Sarahs husband will look like in about 10-15 years.
The look of nothingness behind their eyes, desperation and frustration, resigned to their futile little existence, Shells of men, no fire, no substance, no energy — that withered long ago… who now serve no purpose in society but to exist, and take up space.
Even men without money are finding they dont have to put up with bitchy bullshit. Maybe thats why Sarah is here, she sees so many of her girlfriends unable to develop the sweet, long-term caring relationships like the one she and her hubby have and is angry at us men for being meanies.
Lol.
“If you’re so proud, post your picture and be real. ”
Sweetie….try buying my book and seeing what we are telling the young men about women just like you.
The young men are learning “5% is the new 50% if you happen to be a man.”
http://www.a-man-zon.com/Books/B0000PeterNolan.aspx
I guess I was a nice Beta as long as I had a sweet sexy wife,
or maybe I was a Sigma in Beta’s clothing, whatever. I read the book “No More Mr. Nice Guy” and I was never what it refers to as a “Nice Guy”, so I don’t know what the fuck I am
(in fact, one of my ex’s best friends’ husband was a ‘Nice Guy’ as defined in that book, totally fawning over and worshiping his wife. My wife saw this and complained that I wasn’t like him. I tried to tell her that it was a facade, that I could see the cracks in their relationship, but she never listened.)
All I know is that the more bitchy she became, the more of an asshole I grew into. My ex has a boyfriend now and the last time I saw her I asked her if he makes her squirt like I did. She stormed back into her car, slammed the door, and squealed off. Heh heh.
Whatever I am, I settle for nothing less than hot, one way or the other, and always will. And I’m a real asshole with women now, and I like it! 😀
Yum yum, Angeles City lezzies! 😀
How little you know. 😀
The locals with half-decent bodies are good for interim fucks, but yeah, I have seen the Promised Land, and we must trek East, boys! Don’t spend money on the locals, save up for Eastern Europe or Asia.
I see them every time I go grocery shopping, always a couple of paces behind their bitches. I smile at them as I walk by. 😀
Maria Kang’s a cutie, and I admire her level of fitness, but she’s still a mouthy western woman. I sure as hell wouldn’t kick her out of bed (after three kids, one would have to see if that old cunt had shrunk back to its original snug fitting size), but I prefer a more curvy woman. You can’t beat a fine ass tapering down to a tiny waist when your fucking the hell out of a woman doggy style. Fit hourglass figures (which she does not possess) really do it for me.
No Russian man will have her! 😀
I’ve got to admit, those dudes look much too happy playing their videogames.
Who needs to be united? We just need to come to the realization that women are no more than an occasional useful cunt and to deal with that reality in our own different ways. 😀
Being a runt doesn’t mean he has to give up his masculinity.
Contact lenses, a little beefing up, a good drunken bloodletting scrap or two, and some experience with hot whores, and that little loser could turn his life around.
This is a great past time when I’m stuck in my fucking office. 😀
Millionaires don’t have yachts, billionaires do. Nonetheless, lots of 60 year olds are living the “all the girls I want” lifestyle in Thailand and the Philippines. It’s either that or succumb to some nasty old bitch and die miserable. Western women don’t like this and will try to shame us, but who gives a fuck? While western women have turned America and its orbiting states into feminist cesspools of emasculation, they will never change Eastern Europe and Asia. 😀
i love me some american psycho, but the reference seems out of place here. aren’t we to suppose that you’re happy, having taken the red pill and whatnot?
Why move away when Canada is such a great place to make money? Three or four month-long trips abroad is ideal.
1. Of course it doesn’t bother us to be used for money; one way or another, we pay for it.
2. The last thing I’ll be worrying about is the scorn and amusement of others as I get fucked reverse cowgirl style for the 4th time in a day. While a woman might say to her boyfriend while vacationing in Asia, “Look at that old man with that young woman, that’s disgusting!”, the boyfriend is thinking, “Fuck I want to be him when I’m 65!”
3. Coke is for western women. In Russia it’s heroin and in Asia it’s shabu, but it’s best to avoid drug addicts anyway.
4. Half my age? Try a third my age! (when the time comes) 😀
My Russian ex fucked me the first night we met. Granted I was irresistibly handsome, but nonetheless, she was one of the “good ones”, with a great job, a good family life and great parents who remain married to this day.
Trust me, they fall for our bullshit. 😀
I kind of think Hugh Hefner is a loser; rich but a loser.
Now Sir Richard Branson, he’s the man!
We all get old and pathetic, but that’s what kids and grandkids are for. Once life becomes more trouble than its worth, it’s a few bottles of wine, a generator, and a garden shed, then on to the next life. I don’t see the problem.
You said it..the former sluts and betas end up with each other. Thats right. Except, they are not happy. Both because they cant get anyone else than each other.
Thats part of Red pill wisdom. Are you going to be the sucker that “saves” the reformed slut after shes been through a hard line of hundreds of dicks. And now only stops because her looks fade.
Are you really going to be that guy ?
Now, for some it’s ok. But I say..you wouldnt give your best years to me..so sure as hell not going to give MY best years to you.
Many men are waking up to this truth..and thats just bad news for sluts. Maybe you’re one of the sarah 88 ?
Forget about fighting the Red Pill..no amount of bitching is going to make it go away.
Lol uve been saying “see you later” for, like 2 days now ? dont you have places to go, cats to feed ?
“…My pain is constant and sharp…I want my pain to be inflicted on others. I want no one to escape.”
Are you just vacationing in SociopathyLand or have you lived there all your life? Unrelenting bile & vitriol is not the best mode of rhetorical persuasion.
You forgot the part about small dicks. But otherwise, a skilled regurgitation of the usual script with colorful but not overdone embellishments. Grade: B ::golf clap::
Sarah sweety, you sound like you need a real man. 😉 They’re out there I promise. Let go of your anger, put on some heels and go find one. I get it you’re dating schlubs, no wonder you’re upset. I don’t fight, you just remind me of my sister, she’s frustrated too. xoxo PS I AM a “skank” in the bedroom for the right man. Good sex’ll do that to ya.
Haven’t you been told today to fuck off and die, you mangina piece of shit/undercover feminist? I can’t decide which you are based on your comments.
One thing is for sure, you are totally out of place here with real men, commenting on a blog for men. You go grrrrl. Try a bigger dildo.
I’m glad at least one person caught the American Psycho reference.
Why do you presume I don’t speak more than one language?
Really? What a coincidence. Wow! We here at RoK actually have real jobs in the real world, and we drink and read silly game site comments by stupid little russian suchkas and laugh!
Dos Bedanya Suchka!
Your chinese knock-off Guccis dont count Boomersville.
As funny as you claiming to know Demi Moore?
Boomy, you slay me…LOL
Its nice that some of the “fat girls” lowered theirs for you then isnt it Boomenhauer?
Awww, boom — you are making it too easy for me.
Remember those inflatable knockout clowns?
Hahahaha.
Nice trolling. Can’t get men’s attention otherwise?.
“Yes, I’m privileged and things work out well. I have a PhD.”
Lol.
Sure you do, cupcake. Well, I happen to OWN Harvard. What do you think of that?
Dont want to sound like a “grammer cop” or anything, and you having a Phd and all..
But never in my life have I seen any use the spelling dumb dumb like that.
You dum-dum.
If those “girls” you are describing are anything like you Sarah — Ill pass.
So hey, little challenge for ya..
How about your “husband” drops a comment here – so we can get his valuable opinion?
And maybe even your “friends” – you know, the ones you share our humble little sites comments section with? Lets hear their comments too.
Inquiring minds would like to know : )
I found a pic of PanchoandGringo! He used to go by BoomersGreatestGeneration but got banned.
He really isnt a bad lookin’ playah’.
http://halloweencostumes.costumestore.com/107090_01_Lg.jpg
Pancho & Gringo
http://halloweencostumes.costumestore.com/107090_01_Lg.jpg
“Not all women are bad” — Sarah88
Hopefully you guys can find a privileged submissive PhD like me someday guys..in your dreams
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/05/04/article-2139451-12E64EF7000005DC-300_306x475.jpg
[email protected] e-muscles.
“He had a nice life other than that as we’ll surrounded by people he cared about. I was there.”
As WELL is spelled we’ll?
Um..so..you have a PhD. And you live in Hawaii. And you are privileged. And you spell well we’ll.
And now you are telling us you have been to Hef’s mansion.
A “few times”.
and it was..”neat”
Ummm…Obvious troll gonna obvious?
Quite a brilliant assessment of troll Sarah88.
Initially she was doing well. Her perseverance and unwavering tirades of vitriol were commendable…
But alas, she caved. As they all do. We got under her skin, just when she thought she was getting under ours.
All in all, quite amusing.
No, PanchoandGringo is actually a wealthy Hollywood elite playboy type that parties with Demi Moore and wears Gucci loafers. Here is his pic.
http://halloweencostumes.costumestore.com/107090_01_Lg.jpg
Grandma boys? Is that a big insult in your mind? You Russian chicks are so annoying when you try to incorporate slang to try to “fit in”.
Hi Sarah, thanks for taking the time to craft an elaborate response to my article. I usually don’t comment on my own articles, but you seem to have put a lot of effort into insulting us, which as the writer, I take as a personal affront. Hence I’d like to address some of these.
I see you have a problem with 9-5 jobs, as well as suggesting all those who suffered from maternal abuse are ‘losers’ and not ‘real men’. I see the first supposed principle of feminism is breached, whereby you condemn these same people, that they should have been ‘aborted’.
It’s probably worth mentioning here, I have a fantastic relationship with my mother, a genuinely loving and kind person. As you correctly say, it’s far better to speak up in person and if you’d like to do this to me, i’d welcome that. Irrespective of your method of delivery, I assure you insulting my mother in person will result in a negative outcome for you.
I don’t want to spend too much time on you, as I have more important matters to attend to. But as for your bigoted references of being ‘hard’, ‘having a low IQ’ and how ‘men like you serve a specific purpose’, let me give you a little background about myself;
– I previously successfully competed at international level Muay Thai (probably harder than you)
– My IQ is 132 (probably higher than yours)
– My NET earnings last year were above £150,000 (probably more than you)
– I currently have 3 lovers in my life. There’s also 2 more interested, but I have to have some time for myself (probably all more attractive than you)
– I’ve previously been the lead vocalist on 9 different releases
However, I truly hate to brag, although I feel it’s important to point out to regular RoK readers that all of the above was achieved because I eschewed your suggestion in your other comment about how we ‘should just accept’ how things are, as patently this is not a beneficial choice for men. Concentrating your energies into yourself and those truly of value to you (family or close friends), while passing on what knowledge you have accumulated in that journey, is far more rewarding and beneficial for men. I am sure all RoK readers have experienced this themselves somehow, as that’s what led them here.
The vicious response you wrote initially, shows how what you read clearly touches you deeply, with you also acknowledging how the ‘former sluts’ are happy with their beta men. I imagine this is because those ‘former’ sluts, can still do as they wish, with the support of their beta husbands financing and transporting them. And so it seems, this has been your path in life. When a truth comes to close to home through any media, those with skeletons in the closet start to emerge and information is attempted to be discredited.
TAKE NOTE WHEN I SAY; in the last year alone, i’ve personally seen this site grow and grow in patronage. Even if the immediate near future doesn’t result in physical protests you and your ilk are so fond of, the mentality of men is beginning to shift. The knowledge something I have wrote may have helped illuminate another man, who in turn will one day help another, will result in changes. It’s already happening.
If the gender roles were reversed in this article, ‘Man’ would be painted as a walking atrocity and threatened with genital mutilation. If you are a real person who believes what you’ve written, you’ve done nothing more than confirm what I’ve wrote.
She shouldn’t be belittling you at all, ever.
Unjaded- I feel honored that my comments mattered so much that you took the time to respond. To be honest, I thought you got crazy people like me all of the time commenting on your website, I thought what I said was nothing special or new. Of course the idea that women are subhuman hits a nerve- I am a women. So it would be weird if it didn’t. Your readers are just as vile and foul-mouthed as I was, so nobody can claim superiority there. Nobody is trying to insult your mother, so relax on that. I’m sure she’s a nice lady.
But a lot your readers clearly have problems. You guys need to parcel out your message. Not being a doormat and taking shit from terrible selfish women is one thing, but this is obviously not that. I’m glad this site is growing so women can make an educated choice, just like you guys try to provide info so men can spot a slut. And believe it or not, I was not a slut, and now I’m just a boring lady in my early the thirties who was bored and curious and inspired about this site. But women who were that way (promiscuous) evolve and there are plenty of men, who you call betas, to marry them.
If you don’t organize and clean up your followers, you’ll be really limited in what you guys can actually do. People will never be able to take the eloquent people like you seriously. I obviously hit a nerve just as much as you guys say you did because so many people got so mad, responded, and then you wrote. It’s crazy!
You don’t have to brag about your accomplishments and your IQ to me, that’s not interesting. I’m sure as you say you’re much more creative, smart, with more lovers, etc. it doesn’t look good to brag about that though, it sounds desperate, which I don’t think you are. It sounds like I really got to you because you needed to validate yourself in my eyes. And just because one person is smart obviously doesn’t generalize to the rest of the minions.
It’s really just fate that I chose your story… I wanted to do the most recent one so people would see this. I didn’t really read your entire story but I’m sure it was good. I think in real life you’d be fine and I would be, too. I think commenting like this is bad for the soul and I feel slightly remorseful that I engaged to this extent, which stronger-willed people would not do. So let’s move on. If I see you (or your mom) in the street, I’ll be polite and say hello.
Agreed.
Girly Girl… You ooze desperation and low-esteem. Your need for approval and acceptance from these guys (and all men, clearly) looks so desperate, and you’re a disgrace to your fellow woman. Look at how the one responded to you- that you should call him to fuck in his basement. That’s makes you feel so special, huh?
You clearly read nothing I said (I’m sure it’s tough) about being happily married to a strong man and how dominant, assertive men are very important. Arguing with someone like you who has such low confidence is like arguing with someone who is mentally challenged, and that’s not fair or right. So keep pretending that you’re not like a regular girl, you’re one of the cool girls, who has so many guy friends (because you can’t forge meaningful relationships with other women because you only know how to connect with sex) and go about being your dull self. After your all used up with men laughing at you, I’ll accept your apology and tell you how to act right.
“There is no such thing as unconditional life-long love (children and dogs being the exception)”
Only dogs. American kids attempt murder on their parents by the age of 12. Provided their parents haven’t killed them first.
” I’ll take my men….”
How many?
Dating? Sarah said she was older and married. Marriage – remember that? Or hasn’t your generation of American even heard that word?
You know what Patrice O’neal would say my darling: love is the same thing as hate hehe!! The men over here have your emotional system reacting, something that hasen’t happend in a LONGTIME!! Your rational mind is disgusted by us but your emotional mind want to tame us.
Such is the effect all of us ALPHA MALE has on you Sarah. I can smell your pussy being wet Sarah hehe!!!. Whether you like it or not, YOU WANT AN ALPHA MALE, A CHALLENGE NOT A PUSHOVER.
I don’t know if your familliar with Patrice O’neal the late great comedian, but right now Sarah is on here to try to get a new perspective because she’s bored out of her mind with no men to guide her. She’s taking karate classes for free ( red pill knowledge) hoping to graduate ( landing an Alpha and a winner )
Sarah is on here to try to get a new perspective because she’s bored out of her mind with no men to guide her. She’s taking karate classes for free ( red pill knowledge) hoping to graduate ( landing an Alpha and a winner )
“”and most men will never wake up so those women are good too.””
Holy shit, did anyone else catch that? A chick actually textualizing the feminine imperative. “Most men will never wake up”. A wall of text demonizing the men here undone by this one one sentence in one fell swoop by accidentally admitting blue pill men are still asleep.
Oh noez not just kids but …..MANY KIDS *GAhhhh*
The leftard indoctrination is strong in this one.
We don’t tell women we are red pill unless we identify them worthy enough of a relationship. Hence why so many men go marry or go into relationships for Asian or eastern European women and avoid American/UK/Aus women
Generally any man that calls a woman out of their shit or never lets women get their way with us is a red pill guy and women know this.
It was no accident. The women will never be lonely, there are always men (betas) to marry them and support them. And they buy a house in the suburbs and have some kids. I just mean you won’t get the justice you seek because the men don’t care that much about a girls past, and most of them don’t think like you guys. They are just happy to have someone and they go along their way. That’s why this will never take off. Most guys get lonely and that’s gonna win out every time. I wouldn’t want this kind of man, but there will always be abundance for women because of these guys.
What you did here was so funny. Because you made me think you were appreciative and being nice but then you totally shocked and crushed me at the end. It was so crazy that you did that. You’re a clever one.
How long did it take you to think of that one in formative studies?
-you’re clearly in way over your head even in your cheap stripper heels from Hustler or Guess or wherever the hell else desperate skanks shop.
I was fully prepared to back you up until you said this.
This is the reason working girls and career women will forever be at odds with one another. I’d much rather be sliding down the pole than hopping on the corporate slavery caravan. -But what do I know? I’m just a skank, right?
I’m not interested in debating the merits of sex work with you. I just want you to know that you’re behaving like an elitist bitch.
If you are a woman, Sarah88, then you are ‘never out of the game completely’. That is the point: the principle of hypergamy means that are perpetually on the lookout for someone better; there is always a bigger fish to reel-in and gut.
The overweening sense of entitlement which North American and Western European women (in their native and colonised countries alike) possess can never be sated owing to the fundamental misconception that it is possible to have it all – bloated by a diet of Disney fantasy which has them all believing they are Daddy’s little princesses and so no man will ever be good enough for them.
Notions of mutual compromise and self-sacrifice – fundamental to the success of any marriage – disappeared with the post-Second World War generation. And so both men who cannot be manipulated and controlled, as well as those who are utterly subservient, docile and emasculated, are abandoned with equal and utter contempt by the women in whom they have a sexual interest once they [the men] no longer hold any challenge or excitement.
It is only a matter of time before your husband has his fate meted to him by you, and when that day comes, he will, like so many men, not have a clue as to what he has done to ‘deserve’ it.
Men of my grandfather’s generation lived by the adage ‘treat ’em mean: keep ’em keen’ when it came to women.
If modern women did not like being mis-treated by men, then they would not allow themselves to be pursued by alpha males and delude themselves in to thinking that they can ‘reform’ ‘bad boys’.
The same is inevitably true for the likes of Mick Jagger of the Rolling Stones and F1 boss Bernie Eccleston – although I seriously doubt that Hefner was ever cool.
Yet still the young groupies and fan-girls flock to them in droves: mere moths to the flame of power and money.
I have no problem with strippers and sex workers as long as they’re happy. I have a problem with desperate women who pick a fight with other women in order to appear good to men or get on their food side. That’s gross. Dividing us and having us fight amongst each other only helps these type of men. Yes, the shoe comment took it a little far and was a little cruel, I was just so irritated with that women. Overall you know what I’m saying has merit. Sorry if I offended a reasonable women. My goal in that moment was to be an elitist bitch.
Understood and thanks for taking the time to clarify. I appreciate it.
You guys are so damaged…You’re 9-5 losers… After girls
get tired of losers like you, they move on to real men who have a
healthy attachment styles and weren’t fucked over… They
get married and have a nice life together. Betas (aka normal, healthy
men) are happy and so are the former sluts. Your the people who end up
all alone and everyone laughs at you like a dried-up drug dealer.
oddly prescient. selective prophesying may be preventing you from connecting the dots. happy beta + happy slut → together happily, but perhaps not ever after → unhappy slut moves on → unhappy beta, fucked over, is now a damaged 9-5 loser → beta ends up alone, but perhaps the slut does too. are not each trapped in their own cycle, repeating? you’re right, some do end up here, broken betas and broken sluts alike. i wonder, do you really think not connecting the dots can prevent you from seeing yourself? you’re staring yourself in the face, a mirror written in your own words lies above.
like this site all you wish, but you’re driven to troll despite your self. full trolls troll for trolls sake; you troll to hide the truth. as such, you can be trolled. liar.
time. time flees irretrievably from us all as we get lost in our love of detail. how can it not, with so many calls for phases and hobbies? but should we not aspire to something more; something less idling, something less frivolous? i, for one, call for a modest proposal: let us create a site that calls for men to improve themselves. it shall call for time spent not as a hobby, but as a life-long, eternal commitment to such self improvement. the point could even be as simple as to not waste time on time-wasting women. and in a polite oversight, the half-trolls could even hang around the site, starving for men’s time they might used to have enjoyed.
again, this liar is oddly prescient. but as before, connect the dots fully. take your time gents; take your time, but take it back forever. time is so very harsh all by itself. but it is harsher to some more than others. no need to fear the reaper.
Barren women crying about having no babies …
Lol! (Fucking …) LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!
Go check out Princeton University’s academia courses and realize you’ve been covering for trolls… and this is why you will never ever leave the friend zone.
Luckily we have a cure for that.
You missed the part where she looks great post 30 where as you won’t in the next few years.
Ummm, huh? Nice attempt at a little flow chart and logic though. Cute. Ten points for effort.
Never be lonely? Is that why dating websites are littered with millions of single moms and fat girls?
its not the lack of knowledge, it’s willful ignorance that’s the issue. Its the issue of burying your head in the sands and hoping it’ll go away…
Most people who take the red pill also have that lack of knowledge but they accept that responsibility and then work on to change it.
Fools who don’t see that… well they deserve it.
I agree, to a point. I was that guy, but I had a heartbreaker bitch of a girlfriend that fixed that problem for me. The difference being, I found out and (after hearing empty words of bullshit) left. My dad didn’t hurt either. He may have been an uncouth, crude, under-educated ass, but he drew women. Even as a 40 year old drunk, he had his pick of pussy on the side if he wanted.
I snapped, and took what today we refer to as the red pill. Since then, no bullshit from bitches. One little whore tried it last year, and I ended our ‘friendship’ in a vicious tirade in front of her new cock. Not directly about her (that would have been empowering to her, and made him feel sympathy), but about Womyn that bob cut their hair, get chubby, dress and act like men, and pole hop. They lasted 3 months, and I ran into him.
They broke up because she’s a money sucking bitch who can’t even hold a menial job. Oh, and he figures she cheated on him twice. You know the type, surrounds herself with guys, flirts incessantly.
She’s texted me since the new year rang in. I just ignore her, I have a better quality toy than her.
Congrats on taking the red pill to freedom, bro. Women are the embodiment of maya (illusion) and are what keeps us men attached to the illusions of this world.
He may have been an uncouth, crude, uneducated ass
The peanut doesn’t fall far from the tree
I know, right? He may have been a blue collar welder, uncouth, crude, under-educated ass, but he pulled college educated 24-30 year olds that looked fine when he was 40. Those ladies, they just couldn’t resist him. So thanks for calling me just like him.
I’ve got a better job and college degree, but I’m happy to say I pull ladies just like him.
Mental torture? I do this to girls all the time, except the marriage part. Dude learn to use and abuse them.
I’m sure that you do mentally torture girls with you presence. Then they call police and you get beat like monkey
beat like a monkey…
Uh, did you just arrive off the boat form Russia, Mashenka?
Even a fucking indian speaks better English than you. You sound like some retarded piece of shit from the 19th century.
Learn how to speak properly, you dumb cunt. Or else get the fuck out and go back to your own shithole 3rd world country.
Well, he didn’t mean this…
http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr03/2013/1/9/12/anigif_enhanced-buzz-29297-1357754242-12.gif
I could even say many years ago, I was gamma myself
Da it sound like your autobiografica
You mean you’re not the anal cekc rooskie in the pic? Too bad.
So a Gamma Male is basically an überBeta, or am I wrong? Not being snarky, genuinely interested, maybe it’s just late in the day and I’m tired, but I’m not really seeing the difference between a Gamma and a Beta.
Gamma is a beta on steroids, apparently.
It’s apparently using this classification system:
http://alphagameplan.blogspot.com/2011/03/socio-sexual-hierarchy.html
A VoxDay “beta” is actually a lesser alpha.
As mentioned above, I have used the definitions given by Helen Smith in Men On Strike (pg. 21).
I like how this Gamma character is like the proverbial “wandering jew”. Forever punished for denying his base instinct, for denying game and his fellow man. To serve as a reminder to other men to not follow in his footsteps.
OH VEY!
One simple rule – Never sell your happiness for a girl, a fuck or anything related to some feminine bullshit, it won’t work and it will make your life miserably because you will keep trading away your dignity and your happiness to the girl.
And in the end, they despice and hate you.
There’s a cat wrangling troll below. Its name is Sarah88.
Do not feed it… it’ll grow fat all by itself.
Must be the cold weather. The trolls have nothing else to do.
Bannon’s trolls are AI bots who are not concerned with entertainment.
Where are the mods when you need them?.
They’re busy fapping to misogynistic revenge fantasies.
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trumpski for the win
Amen to that. Golden rule of an LTR – never giver her what she asks for. Give her what you know will make her happy.
I totally agree with the first sentence and still would consider myself a feminist. weird… btw. the story above never happened. and if so, the “gamma guy” and the girl are the two stupidest human beings to ever have walked on this planet and deserve each other.
You think that all that never happened?
In my experience it happens every day.
then you’re surrounded by morons (male and female).
Its fucking sad, we get brainwashed by society bullshit which feminist have gain to much power over. We blame ourselves and wonder what is wrong with us but at the end of the day u wake up and under its not u, its the feminist bullshit and women today that’s the problem!
Thank you for your compliment on my fiction writing. However, I must inform you, the behaviour of some women is such that I have no need to write creatively.
something exactly like this happened to me, albeit over the course of 2 years instead. And I played right into her hand. And she HATED me for it.
Women need to know you have other pussies to relieve yourself. They can’t feel turned on unless they see this. The minute one of them thinks you will have a hard time banging someone else, the drama begins.
Keep many of these animals around, when one of them starts shit, why should you care? You have other pussies to use, and you can ignore her nasty messages. Then when the bitch realizes you have probably moved on you get the, “I’m sorry I acted childish, do you want to talk?” Then, bring her over, bang the crap out of her, while you pull her hair and smack her ass red.
Spot on Professor Jesus! I always have at least three girls on a string at any time…..and I do not hide this fact from any of the girls on the string or prospects for the string. There is definitely a difference in attitudes and actions when the girls know they can be oh so easily replaced.
Praise Jesus! Excellent advice!
Right on, the moment you treat them like equals it’s game over.
Your avatar and screen name used in light of your comments are blashphemous, don’t let me catch you in a dark alley.
WARNING ! Internet tough guy stretching his keyboard muscles !
Thankyou, Jesus. You’ve provided me with manifest blessings and edification this fine evening.
What the fuck is this? Jesus doesn’t stand for any of that, you tiny, blasphemous fuck! I hope you enjoy sucking Satan’s cock in eternity assclown!
If women choose to have multiple male partners fine. Same advice. Just for the other gender.
Except the smacking hiss ass red while you bang the crap out of him. Unless he’s into that. She can buy a strap on or something. Choking or whatever weird stuff he’s into. -nods-
Live for yourself and don’t sacrifice yourself for anyone.
One simple rule – Never sell your happiness for another person. Male or female.
Im alright with beta and alpha but don’t you think throwing gamma and sigma into the mix is too much?
SPOKEN LIKE A TRUE OMEGA
Just kidding.
I once talked to a guy who said “so what if my girlfriend cheats on me with my friend a few times? You need to be tolerant”
I’m pretty sure he was a little bitch lol
I knew a guy like that too. He was such a nice guy. He even dropped off his girlfriend who he was in love with at my house a couple of times, LOL.
True story bro.
He ended up dying in a plane crash. The bitch then went off the rails crazy for a few months. Perhaps she actually felt guilty, I don’t know.
with at my house a couple of times
He figured you were a fag and he had nothing to worry about.
Well he dropped her off at another couple of guy’s houses too, and I know that both of them were fucking her.
It was shit like that which made me begin to become disgusted with American women. Which eventually led me to the path of foreign countries and foreign women.
Never believe what girls say because:
You see, attraction is MORE of a SCIENCE than an art form.
See, as humans, we all have two
ways of thinking. Number 1 is using logic or our conscious minds. Number
2 is using emotion or our subconscious minds.
The great thing about seducing
women is that they are HARD WIRED to follow their emotional thoughts
and feelings that are the same across ALL women… They cannot help it.
That’s why so many women fall for the same “ass hole” guys. Their
logical brains are telling them that they’ll be cheated on. That
they’ll be messed around. That they’d be better off with the nice guy.
And they are usually right, but women are RUN by their emotional side
of the brain. They can’t help but seek out the excitement, the alpha
male, the bad boy.
A woman wants an alpha fuck. How can you blame her?
Betas are retarded faggots who deserve their misery. How can you blame women for not wanting to fuck a bunch of faggot betas?
It’s a great article but … not all girls are outright cheats…. some keep orbiters only and still torture the omega …. only jumping cocks in the final stages…..
Yes, frog ala peche is so much nicer than peche ala frog.
Losers gonna lose. The Greek alphabet soup is unnecessary.
I’m guessing that this uses the VoxDay classification system?
http://alphagameplan.blogspot.com/2011/03/socio-sexual-hierarchy.html
I like that Geese Howard avatar. Anyway, I’ve seen something similar to this while in service to uncle Sam. It is heartbreaking to see a dirt bag slut absolutely crush a guys soul.
“Girl goes to study in France, barely speaks any French but manages to get into university there.”
Sounds like me in the US. Allow me to share my story. I came to the US for a temporary stay. Ended up meeting a very nice young man and dating him. First boyfriend in my life since in my home culture we don’t normally date. Anyway, we have fallen in love. My family says they will never give their blessings for us to marry, if it comes to that. They do not trust Americans on that level because of all the divorce, single parents, sad children, etc. My boyfriend’s family does have some divorced members in it and that makes it a “guarantee” in my parents eyes that he will divorce me. Besides that they don’t think he’s capable of working and succeeding like the type of young men they would choose for me. Cultural differences of course are a major issue for him. They say he won’t fit in with the culture, society and rest of the family. As far as religion they don’t expect him to convert or believe necessarily but of course any son-in-law would be expected to participate fully and enthusiastically in our traditional festivals and ceremonies.
They are probably right about some of this stuff but I can’t help that I have truly fallen for him. He is willing to spend extended time in my country getting to know my family and culture. What if he doesn’t like it? What if he wants to leave or live his entire life in the US or elsewhere?
I don’t know what to do. Anyone else here navigating a cross-cultural and cross-continental relationship?
“Sounds like me in the US . . .”
. . . and then proceeds to write a long post entirely incongruous with the article all about her and her troubles.
I was referring to the section I copy and pasted. About language, communication.
Women start most of the divorces in the USA, and in most cases of the man starting it, the woman was acting like a beotch. If you were a man and your American friend was a woman, I’d say there’s more of a threat of divorce, but I don’t think divorce is too likely in this case. What culture, exactly? Muslim? Hindu?
Pretty sure she is from India.
My parents don’t care who “starts” divorce. Any divorce at all in his family is a point against my guy in their eyes. And divorce is just one of their concerns. We are in love but of course my parents know love is not enough. I’m trying to balance their concerns with our love. I’m also afraid for the reasons I listed above. Don’t know whether to take a chance on love or to listen to my parents
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Why? I don’t mean to be rude, but……why?
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Of course, you were born there until your parents left. I figured that you were some slumdog wog.I can speak one of the official languages of India. Ask me a question.
Uh no. I am not an indian. I am a white person from America.
Then why did you tell us in a previous post you lived in Bangalore
He used to be a member of the Hare Krsna cult.
You sound like an indian woman. Sounds to me like you don’t like indian men (who can blame you for that) and you are trying to find some dumb white guy in America to marry you. Unfortunately, there are tons of idiots in America still stupid enough to get married.
I like our Indian men very much. In fact, I had always envisioned myself in a marriage like my own parents have. Never ever crossed my mind once that I might get involved outside of my culture. But alas it has happened. I thought that American men were ugly, cold, distant, no sense of humor, no sense of duty or love and no romantic sentiments but my particular American is very much cute, sweet and grounded, almost like an Indian guy.
I never needed to “find” some guy in American to marry me. I was fortunate enough to have been born in a culture where we don’t have to pimp and ho ourselves out to get a mate. Its pretty much a given that my parents would find me the best match possible. And they would have. But kismet stepped in and a Yankee stole my heart!
What to do? Dump him and let my parents arrange a marriage to an Indian guy like they want to do? There’s still time. And this guy has not asked me to marry him yet, though he has hinted and joked.
See, I knew you were from India. Now, I agree with you about American men. They are quite cold and impersonal people.
You will need to adapt to his culture. If you bring your white husband to India, he will not be able to psychologically handle it. Only the STRONGEST of western men can psychologically and culturally handle India.
And a very rare few can even thrive in India, once they get a hang of the local culture/lifestyle and perhaps learn a bit of Hindi too.
I will admit, there’s nothing hotter than an indian woman.
“You will need to adapt to his culture.”
He doesn’t really have one. I mean, what “culture” exactly? And that’s exactly what my parents don’t want – for their daughter to adopt non-culture. And they don’t have to worry because I love the culture I was raised in. And my boyfriend does too. I tell them “he’s more Indian than an Indian boy” but they don’t buy it. Like you they keep insisting he will not fit in. But he fits in just fine with Indians in the US and our all of our food, customs, traditions and festivals here, I figure he will easily transition in India. I’ve seen other firangis do it. Diary of a White Indian House Wife and other blogs and books are living proof. If they can do it, so can my guy.
Are you talking about Sharell Cook, the author of Diary of a White Indian Housewife?
http://www.crimesagainstfathers.com/australia/Forums2/tabid/369/forumid/232/postid/3316/scope/posts/Default.aspx
I thought that American men were ugly, cold, distant, no sense of humor, no sense of duty or love and no romantic
Just the opposite is true if you’re referring to the more upper class ones.You were thinking about the majority on Indian men honey.
Didn’t know her name. She as well as thousands of others have ex-patted to India. I don’t see why my guy should be any different. Some adjustments have to be made, but so what?
Well good luck with that. India is a very difficult place to live for a westerner, at least long term.
By the way, what part of India are you from? Your name isn’t Lavanya, is it?
What’s that? Some Bollywood pic of a White girl you collected?
Anyway as you can see from that CrimesAgainstFathers link, Sharell is a man-hating femnazi who fits in very well with the man hating femnazi bitches in Mumbai.
Try googling Alia Bhatt, faggot.
Jesus, are you a fucking indian too, Pancho?
Sharrell is a cute, marriage and family oriented nice girl who married a very cute, marriage and family oriented Indian nice guy. In fact she says that is one of the things that attracted her most to her husband and to his country: FAMILY VALUES.
She is not lazy and living off her husband’s income. She works and gets paid to write for a travel company.
Right Pancho. Although my guy is not upper class but middle class. Cultural stereotypes from both sides were broken when I met him. I find him and his family quite lovely people with a keen interest in our Indian culture and values. But my family isn’t convinced.
Either way, the main problem in India is that the lower castes are breeding out of control, like a bunch of cockroaches.
We need more sterilization clinics like this that pay women to be sterilized
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-06-20/inside-indias-female-sterilization-camps
The lower class people are breeding and producing so many worthless bastard children. All of those rapists came from the lower classes, by the way.
I’d say we need to just outright exterminate anyone with an IQ under 100. But, aside from that, we can sterilize the lower classes of women so that we can stop these useless eaters from reproducing.
The upper class Aryan brahmins need to start producing more children, so that this lower class negroid race of indians can be stopped.
“But my family isn’t convinced.”
Yes, because Indians are a bunch of corrupt minded racist pieces of shit.
If they hate white people so much, why the fuck do they come to countries that were built by WHITE MEN? Why don’t they go back to their own cow shit infested country?
“But my family isn’t convinced.”
“Yes, because Indians are a bunch of corrupt minded racist pieces of shit.”
No, because family values, traditional culture, and the health and happiness of their descendents is very important to them.
None of which I would expect you to know anything about, if your comments are anything to go by.
Moving on…
Now, is there anyone here who has experience in a long-term cross-cultural and cross-continental relationship? If so I’d like your insights.
LOL! Yes, India has such strong family values.
You are implying that I am not fully aware of how the IPC 498a law has been used to destroy millions of indian families.
You are implying that I am not aware of the massive misandric feminist movement in India.
You are implying that I am not aware of the doggish mentality of indian men, and how they will fuck anything that moves and cheat on their wife in a heartbeat.
Face it. You are just a goddamn subhuman lower caste indian who is jealous and envious of the upper class light skinned people. And you shamelessly go to their countries and parasite off their infrastructure.
Go back to your shithole country you shameless fucking parasite.
Now I understand why you want to marry a white man. Because only some faggot beta white guy would tolerate a whore like you. I highly doubt any indian man with dignity could tolerate your man-hating feminist currynigger ass.
Anon Indian Slut
What do you think of Manu Samhita, Chapter 5, verse 151:
Girls are supposed to be in the custody of their father when they are children, women must be under the custody of their husband when married and under the custody of her son as widows. In no circumstances is she allowed to assert herself independently.
So, by moving to America and being independent, you have rejected the laws of your own dharma. Oh waitaminute. Let me guess. You are an atheist femnazi bitch from the lower castes who does not even accept the authority of the Vedas?
Filthy fucking subhumans. The biggest mistake the Aryan brahmins ever made was allowing you cockroaches to breed uncontrollably.
You are aware aren’t you that the Hare Krsna cult created by Swami Prabhupada is not a genuine sampradaya? If you are interested in our culture, at least connect with genuine representatives of it.
So are you a muslim or a chink?
Such a refined person you are, Pancho
And you also, John. By all accounts.
Here’s a question I’d like you to answer.
Why don’t we see millions of white people immigrating to India? Why is it the opposite? We see millions of indians immigrating to white countries? The reason why is no civilized western person can tolerate living in a dump like India. Whereas you indians and others come to America and parasite off of the infrastructure that was built by white men.
Face it. Your country is a goddamn shithole. It’s the toilet bowl of the planet.
Take your faggot husband to India. Please, by all means, GTFO already, you parasite piece of shit.
I am guessing you are probably one of the lower class dark skinned indians who is offended by my suggestion that the lower class women should be sterilized?
Goddamn, I wish Pakistan would just nuke you already.
He does have good taste in eyewear too dont you think?
http://halloweencostumes.costumestore.com/107090_01_Lg.jpg
Its not a matter of either/or. I could be both since Islam is a religion with lots of “chinks” as members. But I’m neither.
Hindu? If you are really looking for an answer then I would say take it a step at a time. That which you mention is not a cross-cultural gap, thats a universe of difference. If he really enjoys being with you, and is ready to be a part of your culture and history then he will become a part of you. And you will know it. So will your family. Good luck.
Gamma man was weak and pathetic. he deserved everything he got for accommodating her. As long as you as a man rule your house and take no shit from women, you can have a happy life. He kissed her ass when she should have been kissing his. When Sigma told her to “kick rocks” she practically tripped over herself to suck his dick. MEN are dominant! Gamma was not. Men go after there dreams and try to live a life that fulfills them not someone else. A man that is his own man will never have to worry about pussy….it will be in abundance for him.
“Gamma man was weak and pathetic. he deserved everything he got for accommodating her.”
Exactly. Why should we give a shit if some stupid beta male gets his life ruined? It’s his fucking fault for being so stupid to begin with.
there are only 3: alpha , beta, omega. the others are all different subtypes of beta.
Seriously, are there guys around that put up with this crap from some easily replaced bitch??…. Wow…… I’m around many strong males that would just dump a bitch like this without question, that why I think I found this article hard to read digest…
lol what’s with all the gamma sigma bullshit? hahaha this story is so shit. rok is getting a little weak dudes
can i just chime in for like two seconds right now. game is fun. it’s what separates the men from the boys as far as life experience goes… but some of the guys writing here take it wayyyyyyyyyy too seriously. like i’m actually laughing right now. sorry not sorry
OK, thanks for that news flash, genius.
Very poorly written. Is English your third language?
Any examples of articles you’ve written recently?
Alpha, beta and gamma are all relative. There will always be people much more alpha than you, who can render you a beta or gamma. So the lesson of this post is that anyone with a hot wife basically has to live his life in fear that she could cheat on him if she wanted to? Or stop caring about it. Even alphas in the middle ages were insecure enough to put chastity belts on their women. And sultans secluded their women behind harems and purdahs. So I don’t think merely being alpha and dominant assures you of your woman’s fidelity. Goddamn it someone please put up some positive examples of women who don’t suck on every cock they find the moment their husband’s back is turned.
…it sounds like you all need to find a job or a hobby or something.
This post reminded me of the movie ‘The Room’ by Tommy Wiseau lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Plz-bhcHryc
This site sucks, they just want to make money! Cut the crap! Go out to a bar, get drunk = confidence and talk to women!
Our society really needs to stop relying so much on alcohol. It’s pathetic and it kills you slowly… Unless it kills you quickly.
This story reminded me of the first part of the book/movie “The Shipping News”
I’m still sort of confused as to the difference between gammas and betas… Both seem subservient and delusional…
We’ve read so many stories about the bad girls, and while they’re fun, could RoK give us some advice on how to spot the good ones? Say, how do you spot between the temporary alpha female and the true kind? And since you have female readers, what can they do to make themselves more appealing as marriage prospects?
Fuckin’ christ, you alpha male attention whores can’t just fuck off, can you?
You sense an alpha male, which the majority of RoK readers are, or are at least striving to be, and you bitches are attracted like a bee to honey.
Typical female commenter on here. “HEY, LOOK AT ME! I AM A WOMAN! GIVE ME ATTENTION!”
There’s actually nothing women fear MORE than men’s indifference. Love and hate is all the same to them, it’s all about ATTENTION.
If we stop feeding these fucking worthless cunt trolls, perhaps they will go away.
Actually, they just eliminated the comments from AskMen with the new format. And goodmenproject censors comments. I like websites that use Disqus. It’s why I prefer Atlantic to Slate; not material, just comment format. It’s not anything more complicated than that.
Lisa546- HEY LOOK AT ME! I AM A WOMAN! GIVE ME ATTENTION!
Why are you so compelled to comment if you think this site is so shitty? Fuck off, your feminist shaming isn’t tolerated here.
You’re asking why people click on obvious clickbait?
This site is one big troll and so it attracts them, DUH.
You really aren’t very bright, are you?
No, YOU clearly aren’t very bright.
If I’m not tolerated here than when do I have 150+ notifications from your woman-hating gamma followers just today?
If I wasn’t tolerated here, I would have been banned, not had you replying to my every comment.
“And since you have female readers, what can they do to make themselves more appealing as marriage prospects?”
Women who want men to marry them would be very well advised to be honest and also sit on our new juries in our new courts and hold women criminals accountable for their crimes.
For example. Below is the case registry for my ex. She committed the crimes of perjury, kidnapping, extortion, theft and child abuse. She is supported in these crimes by all members of the Irish and Australian Parliaments. She is supported by 99.9% of women and 99% of men I talk to including my own father, brothers, and sons.
If women wanted to be more appealing as marriage prospects they would volunteer to sit on an all women jury in an all womens court and try her case. The full evidence is published. They could then issue a Remedy Instruction and demand that Jennifer return my property. They could also demand that a payment be made by the members of parliament for compensation for the kidnapping and subsequent need to disown my former children.
If women do not do this? They are sending the message loud and clear to all the young men that they support the crimes Jennifer committed.
The cat is out of the bag that 99.9% of women openly support the criminal abuse of men. Those who are in the MAYBE 0.1% are very well advised to denounce the 99.9% and stand for truth, justice and equality before the law. If the 0.1% will not do that? They will labelled and tarred with the same brush as the 99.9% of western women.
Here is the case registry.There are 7 hours of evidence presented on video. It is not as if any woman can deny that Jennifer committed these crimes….she admits to them openly herself.
You want to be more appealing marriage prospects? Deal with your criminal sisters.
http://www.crimesagainstfathers.com/australia/Cases/tabid/421/forumid/465/threadid/5971/scope/posts/Default.aspx
“Alpha female”, what in the hell is that?
If your want to be seriously appealing to a man (marriage) do the complete opposite of what feminists do i.e. have a nice physicue, a pleasant personality and have some domestic skills (no how to cook and keep a home tidy).
Alpha female, LOL! A real woman is FEMININE.
These American women are incredibly confused, sick, and screwed up people. They are trying desperately to imitate men.
This is an overall symptom of the modern white woman, and her innumerable beta and gamma-male worshippers. Pay attention to something, men in more patriarchal countries prize their wives also, but their wives are feminine and in many countries, virgins upon betrothal. Enter the Anglo bitch, and whether she’s from America, England or Australia, they’re one in the same, they’re entitled, spoilt, whorish (whored with a minimum of 30 partners before marriage) and rotten to the core. After years of feminism being saturated into the healthy life blood of the Anglosphere body-politic, we get the results of gamma male and whore girl.
For all of you men who are leaving the corrupted Anglosphere and their European lackey states to find more decent wives, do not bring them around Anglo women. Avoid them like the plague. Marriage in the West is no longer an option for men in the Anglosphere, especially American men. I don’t care if you bring back a decent girl who’s a virgin on her wedding night. 1.) You risk her getting corrupted by vitiated white women and their minority cohort copycats and 2.) Most importantly, as a man you are at the absolute mercy of a woman in so-called “Western law.” No matter who she is, she still has the courts to sodomize you, in case she decides to become “liberated.” Men of the West, you have two options to retain absolute autonomy and independence: 1.) Remain an eligible bachelor, game and use a surrogate mother if children are wanted or 2.) Leave the West for good, get married and never look back. These are only options in the New World Order.
After the collapse, things will change. The social/economic blanket that western women enjoy now will dissipate, and they will once again become reliant on alpha males.
Welcome to the new new new new world order. nWo 4 life! cause it’s just TOO DAMN SWEEEEEEET!!
Which path have you chosen? How’s it working out for you? Just curious.
“I can’t imagine someone could continue to live life so carefree knowing
they were directly responsible for the mental torture they caused
someone else”
Good point. Well the thing is that she doesn’t give a sh*t, at all.
One day, maybe.
She will never give a shit. Women like this are pathologically narcissistic.
Women are not capable of empathy, integrity, character, intelligence, honesty, or honor.
Women truly are subhumans. Sad but true.
Hey, integrity and character are “racist” today… women are sexual beings who only follow their instincts and ‘gina tingles or they’re being “oppressed,” according to sex-positive Feminists.
Oh, is THAT why almost all serial killers are men? Because WOMEN are the pathological ones?
Lisa, if you women are morally superior to us men, then why is it that women in America are NINE TIMES MORE LIKELY to murder their own children than the biological father?
You women commit the majority of child abuse, child molestation, and child murder.
I hope you ladies are proud of yourselves.
Watch yourself, she’s gonna toss out the “sad and pathetic” shaming next…
Is this a serious question? You can’t be serious.
That’s like asking why are men more likely to die on an oil rig.
Women are the ones who do the bulk of parenting. They’re the ones who are actually raising the kids. So they have more opportunity.
More telling is that women usually kill children when they have a history of mental illness or postpartum depression. Men are most likely to kill children as a power ploy for revenge against an ex-wife. More proof of male moral inferiority.
And men are more likely to kill people, period.
Making wide sweeping generalizations never leads to truth.
Mostly, your statement “Women like this are pathologically narcissistic.” is redundant these days.
Well then you might want to talk to my ex or the children I disowned.
None of these people had any problems when I was suicidal during the process of disowning my former children.
They are all adults now. Feel free to ask them why they think it is ok that my children were kidnapped and abused.
Feel free to ask them why they think it was ok to steal my house and kick me to the curb with AUD20,000 after 25 years of labour.
Feel free to ask them why they think it is ok to remain silent while my company was destroyed and I am persecuted by three different guvmints and slandered with taxpayer money by ASIO.
Funny how no one actually wants to publicly confront people who do these sorts of things while shouting at me “SHUT UP” about the people who do these things.
http://www.crimesagainstfathers.com/australia/Forums/tabid/82/forumid/3/threadid/54/scope/posts/Default.aspx
Most people in the Western world are soul-less, satanically possessed, evil people.
The West needs to be destroyed and the sooner, the better.
Most men**
There, I fixed it for ya.
Funny all this talk about unfaithful women being subhuman from a bunch of men who couldn’t be faithful if they tried.
It’s not about the unfaithfulness. It’s about how they shamelessly use men for their own ends without regard for destroying someone’s life.
Players are not faithful, but we don’t usually leech on women’s resources and leave them broken either. Many of us actually give more than they take. We are happy with a mutual exchange of sex and good times and then carry on living our lives. Of course there always are exceptions. We are talking of general tendencies.
“…also gladly guilt him into giving gifts, time and money and accept it all while she’s getting reamed in the ass by a stranger in the lavatory of some kebab shop.” I see you heard about that married chick who went to Turkey to do photography (while taking rides on the Cock Carousel while there, of course) until she got killed by some crazy vagrant out late one night (call it karma) .
I agree with you on that. The boyfriend is usually ready to give everything he has, and the only thing he asks for from the woman is to be faithful to him, and she can’t even manage that much. What are they, animals? The Beta males are really the only good guys here. It’s really disgusting how society treats people who aren’t sociopaths. If anyone deserves to be held in contempt, it’s the people who trample all over the gentleness of these beta males, not the beta males themselves.
The fault of Gamma Guy in above story is to believe that all humans are good natured by default, including women, and then to become desperate when things don’t turn out to be that way.
Nice, decent guy has his life upended by believing in the decency of your average cunt.
During Uni days there was a hardbody, demure girl whom everybody liked. She had a boyfriend whom she’d dumped and who became her beta orbiter/supplicant. Thing is, she’d sleep around lots and most ppl knew it except him. One of the ppl who she’d shag with was a guy I shared a flat with (she was loud).
So one night while she was shagging with my roomie about one in the morning the door rings, supplicant is outside looking for girl. Me: moment pls. Roomie tidies up room and opens windows, she gets into cupboard naked. Supplicant gets in, searches flat as he suspects she’s here, we take half an hour to console and calm him down, send him on his way. Girl was shaking of cold and scare when she got out of cupboard.
About two weeks later supplicant attempted suicide by dowsing himself in gasoline and setting himself on fire. He had been a bright, handsome guy, he became disfigured for life.
Why women with no morals suck…
Women are not capable of morality, integrity, honor, honesty, character. It is simply beyond their capacity.
AWALT…
Unjaded,
“I can’t imagine someone could continue to live life so carefree knowing they were directly responsible for the mental torture they caused someone else.”
Western women do not care about men at all. They are truly EVIL people now. Here, try this one on for size. Sylvie May. A grand mother, mother of two adult sons, and wife of 40 years. She cares nothing at all for her sons. She does not care that they do not have the protection of the law living in the UK.
And when this was pointed out to her publicly what did she do? Made up lies about me and told them. What else?
I have been pointing out the hatred of western women for 6 years now. And they show absolutely no sign of changing their ways no matter I have shoved the evidence of their hatred so far down their throats it makes them want to puke. That is just EVIL if you ask me.
http://www.crimesagainstfathers.com/unitedkingdom/Forums/tabid/360/forumid/240/threadid/9413/scope/posts/Default.aspx
Yes, western women truly are evil now. I mean, even if their own son commits suicide because of how badly he was treated in the anti-male divorce courts, even THEN the mother of the son won’t speak out against feminism or the anti-male legal system.
Try to understand that. If you kill yourself, even your own fucking mother won’t speak out against feminism.
White western women are deeply, evil monsters.
They don’t call it Team Woman for nothin’…
Who is Sylvie May? Why did she make up lies about you? Were you married to her?
Nope….she is just some random woman on the web who likes to make up lies about men and slander them when we point out the truth of what women are doing.
You can see where she is making up these lies on this link. She is actually quite typical for a western woman. She does not even care that her own sons do not have the protection of the law in the UK.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/spain/10511139/Book-on-submissive-wives-becomes-hit-in-Spain.html#comment-1186089223
It never fails ..
sad pathetic bitter loser who masturbates his small dick in his mom’s basement. Oh and neckbeard, too.
You wanna see the opposite of a gamma male? An ultra-alpha male?
Look at Afghanistan
http://rt.com/news/afghan-women-violence-surge-190/
Clearly, these men do not tolerate ANY shit from women.
This is an extreme example of mate guarding behavior. Beta as fuck.
Step out of the mall and welcome to the jungle my friend.
Now defend yourself and yours or be dead Beta as fuck.
No offense dude but I’d like to see you go face to face with an Afghan man and tell him he is “beta as fuck”. These Afghani men have defeated both Russia and America, the two main super powers.
I think they are pretty fucking alpha, if you ask me.
You never heard Afghan women go how they “aren’t haaapy” and “need space” to screw other guys while they decide if they want to stay married or not.
That’s the point. You’ll never hear about Afghan women cheating on their husband or trying to kidnap his children from him.
Basically, this is how women HAVE to be treated, otherwise they get out of control. Women literally are subhumans and unless you abuse them like this? They will get out of control.
Unfortuantely, it is illegal in the West to treat women like this and therefore the only option is to just boycott and avoid western women. Until men once again gain the right to have authority over their women and their home? Then fucking forget about marriage. Let us worthless whores grow up old with their 10 cats.
The problem is that only beta males actually care about keeping women in check. Alphas don’t care because they have plenty of women flocking to them. So their genes are not in danger of not being passed on, regardless of if most of those women go on to fuck another guy.
A beta’s genes, however, are in danger of not being passed on if they don’t control the one woman they’re banging. If she goes and gets impregnated by someone else, he has suffered a huge loss. So it is in fact very beta to control a woman by force. Using violence or laws or some other artificial means to control women is move of desperation. It’s a move of men who have no game and need to make sure they stay in the gene pool.
Lol they’re mutilating women because of jealousy. Far from alpha
We shouldn’t be bothering with the middle east. You can’t bring civilization to animals
Ah man. It’s funny because you can believe whatever misogynist bullshit you like and yet you still can’t take anything away from me. I’m 21, 5’6 and weigh 126 pounds. I have tattoos and piercings. I’m a feminist. I’m not ugly either. I’m dating a sweet, funny, attractive man the same age as me. Neither of us were virgins when we met each other. We have sex regularly. I treat him with the respect and love he deserves, and he treats me the same. He strongly believes in gender equality. I never plan on leaving him and will never cheat. So you can preach whatever you like about how women who aren’t virgins or are feminists or who have tattoos will never get a good man, or how women don’t appreciate good men and will only go for assholes, or how all feminists are fat ugly women who can’t get laid – because me and my boyfriend both know that isn’t true. And we’re so much happier than you. It sure feels good to not be bitter. 😀
She’s attention whoring, pay her no mind.
We know this guy…he’s know around here as “pajama boy”.
Where the heck are the mods when you need them?.
But it doesn’t matter – I’d rather be with a guy that you think is ‘beta’ whom I love and be happy than be with any one of you ‘alphas’ and us both be utterly miserable (Because you will always be miserable in any relationship you’re in, because you believe all women are cheating manipulative scum, so you’ll never be able to truly trust any of them, and will never know what it’s like to be in a loving honest relationship. That must suck.)
And is that a call for censorship I see? My, and here was me thinking it was feminists who were supposed to be against free speech.
That is until you become bored of him, and end up fucking that hipster in a defunct hardcore band who hangs out in dive bars and runs his own revenge porn site.
LOL! The same old “We want a nice sensitive guy” crap.
Any man STUPID ENOUGH to listen to anything that comes out of the mouth of a woman DESERVES to suffer.
First rule in life- never take anything a woman says seriously. Women are nothing but overgrown children who never mature past the mental age of 12.
You must have been dumped a lot.
Exactly… then it’s “Where are all the good men [who get my ‘gina tingles going]?” (Waah-burger with a side of French-cries, Table 3… )
Sweetie,
we are teaching young men that you are liars on this point. Feel free to read my books to see what we are telling young men. Women HATE BETAS. You women openly condone and support women committing crimes against men…especially betas.
If you did not want men like me, 50, telling men like your beta loser boyfriend how you openly condone and support women committing crimes against men then you should have stood up to your mothers generation committing these crimes.
http://www.a-man-zon.com/Books/B0000PeterNolan.aspx
Seriously. Ban the troll please.
Honey, this is the wrong crowd for a happy story. You’d do better elsewhere.
LOL! Did this article push your buttons or something, Imaginethis? Otherwise, why would you even have wasted your time writing such a long comment?
Looks like it hit pretty close to home. So you’re 21. I can’t wait to see what you will be like when you are 30 and old and ugly. If you are this bitchy now? God help whatever poor beta ends up marrying you.
“He strongly believes in gender equality.”
Then he is a beta and he is an idiot and you will cheat on him because you will come to hate him over time for being a beta loser.
Fewer than 20% of women cheat. Divorces are more common in red states than in blue ones. Women are happier in egalitarian marriages with egalitarian men. It is a fact.
“Fewer than 20% of women cheat.”
Sorry…not even close. In the UK in the 60s they introduced blood testing for the babies. They found that TWENTY FIVE PERCENT of the babies being born could not be the child of the “father” based on blood type alone. So they quietly stopped blood testing.
All my eastern european women friends openly admit that women cheat more than men because it is so easy for a woman to find someone to cheat with.
Even a plain jane can find some desperate beta to cheat with….but for a beta man to cheat he has to put in some hard work and effort. This is hard to hide. The other point is that women women AND MEN keep an eye out for men cheating….but no one keeps an eye out for women cheating or being lesbian.
Example? Bill Clinton was in all sorts of trouble over the monika lewinsky thing. But no one talks about how hillary is lesbian and has a string of lesbian lovers.
Sources?
In the UK using DNA testing they found that the number was 1 in 25. That is 50 years of research.
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2005/aug/11/childrensservices.uknews
LOL! You are providing the GUARDIAN as a source for something!?!?! LOL!!!
Hysterical.
Lisa. We are no longer in the mood to discuss anything with you women. We have claimed into existence a WAR OF RETURN to counter your WAR OF AGGRESSION.
We hope to keep this war non-violent. However men are killing women in rapidly increasing numbers, justifiably so, because men do not have the protection of the law when a woman commits a crime against him. Since men no longer have the protection of the law and you women wanted to be equal then you too should not have the protection of the law.
Now..when you are willing to hold women criminals accountable for their crimes and you can find a quorum of 12 women to come to my table and beg for your offer of unconditional surrender to be accepted then we will consider your offer.
Until then a state of WAR exists between western women and those of us willing to WAGE WAR against you, of whom I am one. Indeed, I have claimed into existence a state of open warfare on the land of Ireland and this has been accepted by the entire parliament and thousands of women. It is, literally, lawful to commit act of WAR against women on the land of Ireland. We will release any man taken prisoner as a prisoner of war in that conflict.
The trouble with provoking men is that you can be successful. You provoked us into claiming into existence a STATE OF WAR. Not very smart.
Sweetie….you seemed to miss this bit.
“Their review of estimates of so-called paternal discrepancy over more than 50 years suggests the father was not the natural parent in between 1% and 30% of cases.”
Even the source your provide says the rate could be as high as 30%….
Peter Andrew Nolan is a lying fruit cake:
http://peternolanstalker.blogspot.com.au/2012/11/peter-andrew-nolan-wanted-in-four.html
@Roosh,
Ingrid is a known ASIO (Australian CIA) agent. Australian tax dollars at work. ASIO likes to pay people to slander me. Here are about 20 profiles that are used to slander me. You might want to just ban any profiles that turn up on this list telling lies about me.
http://www.crimesagainstfathers.com/australia/Forums/tabid/82/GroupID/15/ForumID/101/Default.aspx
LOL!
Whatever Nolan – you’re a bare faced liar and a cowardly internet stalker with NO BALLS!
^^^^^^^
Peter “No Balls” Nolan – false accuser, and all round liar and conman …
Advocating censorship, Colon?
http://manboobz.com/2013/10/22/mens-rights-website-falsely-accuses-ohio-university-student-of-being-a-false-rape-accuser/comment-page-1/#comments
LOL! Freedom of speech does not extend to slander Michael Toal. Remember from your church lessons you learned “thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour”.
Both you and Jennifer made much of your christian religion when you were teens. And this is how you turned out, eh? Violating that commandment for YEARS against a man who not only did your family no harm but did your family great good to the extent of saving Jarrod Robinsons life…you nephew and Jennifers son.
And this is how you repay my kindness? By slandering me?
Well? Sad for you and your father that you are being blackmailed to continue your little slander campaign by the very sister you thought you were “defending”.
For all the others reading this? You can check out this letter mailed to more than 400 politicians in Australia as well as the media as well as my personal list of 450 people. This is how to deal with ex in-laws who criminally victimise you in divorce. You denounce them as the criminals they chose to be far and wide.
http://www.crimesagainstfathers.com/australia/Forums/tabid/82/forumid/80/threadid/9227/scope/posts/Default.aspx
Peter Andrew Nolan – woman bashing spanky fetish paedo …
I don’t like this article. It tries to make you angry at the woman for what she ‘did’ to gamma man. But I would say gamma man did it to himself because he’s an idiot and a loser. The article seems fine and red pill until the final sentence:
“I can’t imagine someone could continue to live life so carefree knowing
they were directly responsible for the mental torture they caused
someone else.”
The thing is, she was just being hypergamous like any other woman. You can’t blame a woman for following her sexual nature. Of course she played gamma man like that, he was a provider and beta orbiter and was willing to be that in exchange for a possible glimpse of her pussy. Imagine if a woman wrote that same sentence about a guy who played her. It’s nothing but a victim mentality, and it’s far from alpha. When a girl does something unacceptable you don’t describe to them their unacceptable behavior and tell them to fuck off, you just go no contact and forget about them.
This may be true, but female hypergamy is antithetical to civilization. In the book, “Sex at Dawn,” female hypergamy existed/exists in pre-agrarian societies (3rd world savages), but male-enforced monogamy was tied directly to property and the bequeathing of that property from one generation to the next. This required men to ensure a woman’s virginity and her loyalty because he wanted to ensure his paternity, and this was because of property. Simply put, the more freely a society accepts a woman to exhibit hypergamous instincts, is a society that is pre-civilizational or post-civilizational. The family unit in almost any strong civilization mirrors that of the other, whether it’s Islamic, Indian or European. Men built civilization and they didn’t want to share their women with other men or worse competing peoples, because this would have been akin to giving their inventions and hard-work to other men or their enemies. Women didn’t have and probably still don’t anything to offer society in the sense of inventions or scientific discovery, the price of admittance to civilization for women, was/is sexual monogamy. And the case could be made, any man in favor of a woman’s sexual hypergamy is anti-civilizational and thus in the same camp with the feminists. Lastly, Karl Marx and Frederich Engels both made the case for the sexual liberation of women and advocated a return to our pre-agrarian foraging days which is anti-civilizational. The acceptance of these beliefs for anyone, whether it’s conscious or subconscious is tacit and subtle Marxism, whether you know it or not. I’ll never submit to these falsehoods.
You’re using a strange definition of “hypergamy”.
Hypergamy just means that women are attracted to superior men. It’s analogous the the male desire for youth and beauty.
Hypergamy is in no way incompatible to monogamy. It just says something about the *kind* of partner women seek, not about how many they seek or how faithful they are going to be.
There’s already a word for what you mean, it’s call promiscuity, which is something else entirely.
I am equating a woman’s hypergamous instincts to that of promiscuity. Western women are known to screw their way up in life. I know very well what hypergamy means, and how women use it. Trust me, there’s almost no such thing as a monogamous-hypergamous woman. The campus sluts (who screw the entire football team) and other types are hypergamous to the core. Hypergamy isn’t necessarily bad in women (because it does filter out weaker genes) but it must be checked.
Leaving aside the fact that MRAs consistently misuse the concept of hypergamy, who says it’s a bad thing? In my case, it meant, “Kick the useless guy who doesn’t do any housework out of your apartment and move in the sweet guy who does 50% of the housework.”
“Hypergamy” in the context you people use it can be good for relationship satisfaction and durability:)
“move in the sweet guy who does 50% of the housework.”
LOL!! What a beta loser this guy is.
Sure.
Well, I’m off to see if my boyfriend wants a blowjob. Sometimes I just have to force him to accept them as he’s not in the mood. You fellows have yourself a goodnight:)
Hypergamy is a trait of all women, not only Western women.
Yes beta males need to forcefully keep a woman’s hypergamy in check. And most men in civilization are beta males.
Alphas don’t care. An alpha by definition is man to which most women flock because he’s the one on top that all other men envy. They couldn’t care less if a woman leaves them, they can easily get other hot girls. They don’t care about keeping women in check. Betas need to do it because if they don’t, the girl is going to go suck some alpha cock and ruin their potential family.
I couldn’t care less what women do I think hypergamy is awesome.
Sil,
“Alphas don’t care.”
This is a point few betas understand. Once I stepped up to Alpha it is absolutely true I don’t care at all about what women I date do. Nor do I care about what the women I date think about what I do or don’t do.
One of the most important transformations I went through from beta to alpha was my respect for western women dropped to unbelievable lows…….and the only way that eastern european women retained some respect from me was to be painfully honest.
But that quote sums things up quite nicely. Alphas truly do not care what women say or do. I was surprised at that myself…but it is true.
I guess it’s pretty telling then that I have 150+ notifications from men here just today.
The men who frequent this site clearly care what women say and do. Just sayin’.
Betas care…..betas are such losers that they try and talk to any woman…..alphas don’t care.
And women HATE not being able to get the attention of alpha males. In restaurants, when young women who are not hot enough for me try and get my attention I point at them, then point at myself, then laugh at them to let them know they are not hot enough to get my interest. They get really upset about that! LOL!!
My honest opinion? If you were a woman and you did that, I’d think you were a bitch.
Guys hit on me all the time, I am really nice about letting them down. I actually had a guy tell me that once after he hit on me in the grocery store. He said, “You could not have done that any nicer.” I’m not a sociopath, so I take pride in the good feeling I gave someone, not the bad feelings.
“Guys hit on me all the time”
Of course, beta losers hit on women a lot…..wait until you are 40+ and completely invisible to men….which will happen.
That is IF she makes it to 40. Not guaranteed.
I’m almost 28 and 21-year-olds hit on me all the time thinking we are the same age.
I drink very moderately, have never smoked anything (not even a cigarette), work out, and am ethnically tan.
Of course being a shallow and morally inferior male, all of those things are more important to you than any intellectual argument I could make.
“Lastly, Karl Marx and Frederich Engels both made the case for the sexual liberation of women ”
Interestingly Marx did not make that argument about his own wife! LOL!!
Incisive and intelligent comment, Lance – thank you!
Your about the establishment of civilisations based on owning land, title and property are well-made. This is why in the Anglo-Norman societies of the Middle Ages, the principle of promogeniture as a means to ensure the succession of wealth from one generation to another came into being.
The corollary of this, in order to safeguard against the danger that female hypergamy/promiscuity posed to property-owning societies, was to define women as ‘chattels’ – ie property. While utterly repugnant to the modern Marxist/feminist way of thinking, it was an incredibly effective nation-building philosophy which was at the heart of the development of many European countries and colonies.
I feel sorry for those men, but after getting fucked over so many times, one would learn when the senses start going off, telling a woman to go fuck herself, and throw her shit out the window after the first time she cheated. I’ve never heard of a sigma, is he a twist of an Omega?
I had the hierarchy mixed up.
“I’ve never heard of a sigma”
An Alpha is dominant in the social hierarchy. Thus, by nature, is hierarchical and his position in it is important to him.
A Sigma has the social dominance traits of the alpha, but finds the game of social hierarchy annoying at worst and amusing at best. The outsider by choice, rather than by rejection.
Imagine Aragorn the Ranger, only thinking to himself, “I’m living the good life of my own, for my own. Fuck that “Return of the King” shit.
Out of Africa is the personal story of a real life Sigma widow.
Men are shallow. Thy refuse to date anything but the skinny blonde for status, thus pedastalizing her, and then whines like a little bitch when she fucks him over.
If skinny blondes don’t go for him? He’ll call himself ‘incel’ before considering other types of women.
Suits them fucking right.
To me if nowadays hypergamy is even common in fat chicks, I mean fat ugly Lindy West lookin bitches, the gamma will often fall prey to any woman who gives him even a stare, no matter if their an 8 or a 4.
You sound bitter over men not wanting you.
The kind of man you describe is weak willed. What kind of man dates for status? Only women do that. I don’t really ‘date’ and if I do it’s for sex. And if by skinny blonde you mean a woman of a healthy weight who’s attractive, then yes that’s what men go for. What do you expect? Men to go for the fattest girls first and if that doesn’t work out talk to the hot skinny ones? Lol
Actually, the men here sound bitter over whores cheating on them. But of course whores are going to cheat on them; they’re whores.
I AM A WOMAN! LOOK AT ME! GIVE ME ATTENTION!
Some of the men here are bitter but swallowing the red pill means you realize that women are hypergamous and will go for the man they deem superior is social standing and power. So in other words if you act beta they are liable to get bored and move on. Most men here realize this and a true red pill man would not complain about a woman cheating on him. He would just move on to other girls and go no contact
All caps is an internet cry for attention.
You would be a “gamma male” right? You have the stench of rejection.
And you, pumpkin, have the stench of sourdough a-risin.
The alpha male attention whores just never stop, do they?
HEY! LOOK AT ME! I AM A WOMAN! GIVE ME ATTENTION!
Lisa, even if you were a skinny blond chick, even then you couldn’t hold a candle to even an average foreign woman.
Clearly you were hurt and rejected by men out of your league, your just a woman who is emotionally damaged and hates men.
Awww that’s cute, but no.
I wouldn’t say that I hate men, just think that they are morally inferior to women. And they are. For instance, if I were to go to the most rabid feminist site, Jezebel, and make misandrist comments, they wouldn’t fly. However, misogynistic comments routinely get 25 thumbs-up here. Even so-called ‘man-hating’ feminazi women are more principled and better people than the most misogynistic men.
All the objective evidence points to women being better people; homicide rate, child abandonment rate, infidelity rate, assault rate, what constitutes marital satisfaction for men (wife’s appearance), what constitutes marital satisfaction for women (husband’s behaviour and happiness) etc. etc. etc. Pointing this out doesn’t mean you hate men.
It gets tiring hearing men self-pity and generalize all women as sinister when it is a fact that there are way more sinister men and always have been. I just feel that I’m eloquent and informed enough about the issue to be uniquely qualified to point it out. I never used to make such comments until discovering the ‘manosphere’ and seeing how many misogynists were overwhelming Yahoo’s Shine section. Rather than dismantling feminism, they are creating more outspoken misandrists.
Good job, guys.
Well except women are number one in child murder, abortion, assault on children, murder of 50 million children,
Good, I am glad you are becoming an outspoken misandrists, frankly I hope all american women do.
Women are #1 in abortion?! You don’t say!
That is truly shocking!
Are you seriously this dumb? And I’m not American.
How cute… alpha male attention whore troll
Is he alpha enough for you, sweetie?
Indeed. The more bitter and hateful American women become? The more men will boycott them and refuse to marry or date them.
I KNOW THAT FEEL, /B/RO!
Men are morally inferior to women.
Okay, and that’s why women commit the majority of child murder, child molestation, and child abuse.
Women are NINE TIMES MORE LIKELY to murder their own children than the biological father.
It’s because you women are morally superior to us men, right?
Exactly, women OPENLY hating men is good not bad. Because then more men will see “feminist” for what it is, misandry and androphobia. The more men see that women hate them is hopefully the more men who will become red pill and stop giving these whores kids in divorce court.
Actually, the majority of pedophiles are white males. But even if it were the case that women are more likely to harm children, that would be a given since women are the ones raising them, educating them etc. Children live with women. Even when they live with both parents, women spend more time with them. It would be like asking why men are more likely to die on an oil rig.
I can tell that logic isn’t your strong suit.
Yes exactly. Feminism is actually a great blessing because it has exposed women’s true nature and allowed so many men to wake up.
The MORE hateful women become, the better.
Lisa, you are doing god’s work by waking up men with your hatred. May the blessings of God be upon you.
Women aren’t any more moral than men are. It’s just that women are better at making themselves look innocent. Women are also good at manipulating men into doing dirty work for them.
You are bitter and angry….woman up….get over it.
And just in case you want to know? Try reading what we are telling your young male peers about you.
http://www.a-man-zon.com/Books/B0000PeterNolan.aspx
What is there to be bitter about? I’m young, I’m pretty, I have a nice place to live, a sexy boyfriend, and no screaming brats.
You are the one going on perpetually about how your ex-wife screwed you over. Come on bud, take your own advice.
Suck my dick bitch
But no one would without you paying for it.
That’s why you’re so angry.
“no screaming brats”? Your boyfriend must be sooooo happy.
I like Northeast Asian women. Keep the blondes. I refer to myself as semi-voluntarily celibate. Check your privilege because these binary celibacy statuses are offensive.
You can’t fix stupid. We’ve heard all of this before. Next.
Are you guys enjoying your multiculturalism?
Great article, Unjaded, and, for me, one that has the chilling effect of a modern parable which bears a close resemblance to my current circumstances…
I identify with the Gamma Man in your story to the extent that, while I have never gone to the extent of actively abetting a woman who was theoretically in a ‘committed relationship’ with me, I did go through the whole ‘why don’ t you have an affair’ spiel with my (soon-to-be ex-) wife, from whom I am in the process of separating (and should have done so years ago, but I have always had a strong sense of duty, to the extent that my commitment to my marriage was complete (I did not cheat)).
We are always told as men by women that we are our promiscuous nature makes us untrustworthy and dangerous (ie difficult to control).
But the average Western woman is no less promiscuous than her male counterpart. However, she simply distorts the Madonna/Whore complex embedded within her psyche to justify her promiscuous behaviour without any thought as to the consequences.
I’m not sure what I find more appalling – that “Girl” behaviour in this text or this Sarah88 person. Makes me glad I don’t live in the USA, reading this site confirms that women there must be very, very strange. Or maybe I am simply too old (or old-fashioned) for this bullshit of playing men and whoring around. I most definitely don’t agree with most of these somewhat panicky texts on this page, but some are really entertaining!
I would just like to thank all of the feminist trolls here, Sarah, Lisa, Pancho, the Indian chick, etc.
They are doing God’s work by being so hateful towards men. You see, the MORE hateful women become towards men? The MORE men will wake up and stop kissing women’s worthless asses.
So in the ultimate issue, these women are actually waking up men with their misandry, their man-hatred. They are doing God’s work. And I pray that the blessings of God be upon them.
Oh yes and this statement from you “Women are nothing but overgrown children who never mature past the mental age of 12” was just full of tolerance and respect, not hateful AT ALL.
I can tell you’re a man because you’re a hypocrite.
Men are the ones who kept concubines while putting chastity belts on their wives. If you have double standards, you probably also have a penis.
ROK might hit every letter in the Greek alphabet this year. Gamma is a new one. Is Gamma better or worse than Omega? Looking forward to hearing about Epsilon and Chi in future stories.
Yeah keep to the K.I.S.S. principle: Alpha = awesome guy / Beta = boring guy / Omega = the dud.
It’s like you looked into my soul and read my life with this article. I’ve been Gamma man for the past 38 years and you spelled out everything that happened to me in real life.
“no one ever heard about what happened to Gamma Man. Presumably, he is still somewhere on this world, as Girl had been spotted around, looking as happy as ever. I can’t imagine someone could continue to live life so carefree knowing they were directly responsible for the mental torture they caused someone else”
A month ago I quit my job, sold everything and moved to a different country where I plan to just travel around and start again. There were no goodbyes, farewell parties or anything of the kind. I just one day disappeared, never to be heard of again by anybody. I see it as a rebirth because I was so seriously devastated I legitimately contemplated suicide – partly because of the breakup but mostly because of the realisation that I’ve spent the better part of my life being a Gamma loser. The behaviours are so ingrained now that I feel the identity hard to slink off. I use the advice posted in the various Kings articles, but it always seems to backfire on me….it’s like women have a dog’s intuition for sniffing out a Gamma. All I have left is hope.
Well done…that is pretty much what I did too except I did not have to go anywhere because I was already working in a foreign country….I just stayed and didn’t go back.
Hi Peter – just as an aside to the discussion, I think you mentioned in a previous thread that you did a Landmark Forum and it had a great effect on your life. Would you recommend the forum to someone like myself who’s trying to get his mind/life back on track?
Hi Vince,
I recommend the LF to all men over the age of 18 who are of sound mind and in good health. It is quite strenuous mentally so those who are ill or have serious mental issues should not try and do it. The LF is for physically and mentally healthy people.
Most people come to it when their life is a mess because most people will try and sort things out for themselves before someone taps them on the shoulder and recommends it. That was exactly my situation. A close work colleague had figured out all was not well on the home front despite my best efforts to hide that and he suggested I come and check it out.
On the sunday night Jennifer asked me to marry her again having admitted that she had been a terrible wife and not even a decent friend to me. That was in February 95. She was nice for 6 months and then reverted back to type because “I know what makes you happy, I just don’t want to make you happy, that’s all.”
So yes. I recommend it in all situations as long as you are in good health. It is not like it used to be. It used to be a lot tougher than today. Us old guys called it “landmark-lite” now! LOL!! It used to be very confrontational….and even more so in the 70s and 80s I am told.
Here is a taste. This is from 1984…so it is 30 years ago….but it gives you an idea of the ideas. People are not used to listening to things like this. The nature of being human.
Most men, especially in places like this, simply have no idea how advanced the thinking of men like me is. They think they are dealing with someone on the same level of thinking as them. Rather like a 5 year old would not know that Einstein knew much more about the world than they do and therefore think they know just as much as Einstein…which is how 5 year olds act, right?
The gap in understanding between men like me and 99.9% of other men is huge….and yet those men relate to me like they are my peers in understanding. Listen to this and see how much you can actually get from it. I understand all this and 1,000 times more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id_aqxlj4qE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRisaraDzsA
Thank you for the in depth reply and I will definitely check out that video when I get a better internet connection. I read the Book of Est a little while ago which was supposed to give an overview of a typical Landmark weekend and it definitely piqued my curiosity. Physically I’m in good health; mentally, it’s up and down, but I’m avoiding the use of anti depressants hoping I can figure this out by myself. If I can locate a Landmark Forum on the road, I’m going to give it a shot I think. Thanks again for always helpful contributions to the site.
Vince,
LF is very different to EST. But it is a derivative. It is worth doing in my opinion….after all I did it three times, right?
Thank you for your kind words. Many men here like to slander me. You might like to object to such slander.
The gamma just settles for a fattie.
I cant wait for the movie!! “Gamma man”
I don’t understand the Sigma man reference… Did you mean Alpha?
http://alphagameplan.blogspot.com/2011/03/socio-sexual-hierarchy.html
LOL i was so shocked by the behaviour of the “Gamma” sorry im new to this site and havent heard many of these terms. He sounded like a total sucker – bitch i was actually shocked that there are actually guys like this and i kept thinking through the article omg i would have lost it after the first incident and punched the shit out that bitch tossed all her shit out of the house and went on my marry fuckin way, different strokes for different folks i guess. Glad im not a “gamma” hahahahah.