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Why Are Male Feminists Such Creeps?

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Sex and its bizarrely interesting, particularly American permutations have been in the news a lot in recent days, in particular amongst the alternate media. Of course, everybody with a pulse has heard about Harvey Weinstein and his Hollywood cohorts using the age old “casting couch” while hypocritically stumping for Hillary Clinton and claiming to “empower” women through contrived “ass kicking woman in tight pants” movies.

Beyond that, renegade non-SJW nerds such as myself were unanimously amused in the schadenfreude manner when humorless social justice schoolmarms like Joss Whedon were outed for their rampant infidelity, or the ongoing tally of anti-Gamergaters and “feminist allies” that have been caught sexually harassing, abusing, or occasionally even raping “m’lady” that they were supposed to be valiantly defending—and let’s not forget the classic examples of this happening.

While we all can point and laugh at this, it does raise a very important question that, as far as I am aware, has not received the sociological/psychological attention that it deserves. And that question is: why do so many male feminists come off as, and show themselves to be, complete creeps?

A Point of Contention

Now, just to clarify, when I use the term “male feminist”, I am not referring to a man who merely thinks that a woman can choose to have a career OR choose to be a homemaker and equality under the law and generally wants the sexes to both be convivial and content with their lot in life. I consider myself to be this and I presume most people reading this do as well.

No, by “male feminist”, I mean the loud and obnoxious sort who denounce their fellow men for being masculine, get all giddy over any subversion to masculinity or a strong and dominant woman, go out of their way to be as unmasculine as possible, criticize works of fiction for not being sufficiently “woke”—in short, the sort of guy who refers to himself as a male feminist.

More likely than not, these spindly douchebags are the ones getting busted for behavior far more “misogynistic” than anything us atavistic reactionary cavemen are doing to women. But why? I feel that my unique position as something of a former leftist who might have gone down that route had I had a few more bad days, might shine some light on things.

A Thought Experiment

Imagine that you were a child like I was as a young lad, and probably most of these male feminist cretins were as well—smarter than most of your peers at school, but also shy, wimpy, and bookish. You probably grew up watching a lot of movies and cartoons and playing lots of video games. While you were too shy to talk to girls made of flesh and bone, you were surrounded by idealized, impossibly beautiful and pure damsels in the various media you consumed, as well as cartoonishly dark, seductive, and licentious “bad girls” in that same media. Thus, the first foundation stone is lain in the male feminist psyche—the good old Madonna and Whore complex!

This is not to take the SJW “women should be realistic but also perfect” malarkey, media is based on idealization and exaggeration after all. Rather the lack of real life female interaction is the problem here (i.e., the fact that the only interaction with females is from media is where the problem lies).

The portrayal of men in action movies and video games is also a problem, as most things intended for kids and adolescents tend to be somewhat black and white in terms of morality, which has some adverse effects when combined with a nerd’s daily experiences of getting beat up and wedgied after school. In the misfit’s mind, the bullies are Sauron, Ganondorf, Lex Luthor, and the oppressed nerd is the hero, of course. So you can add a dollop of a hero complex.

“Gimme your lunch money, faggot!”

Puberty comes and the nerd is now substantially more randy and still miserable, because now his unpopularity includes not having sex in addition to mockery and bullying. Said nerd has probably moved on to more adult, more sexual forms of nerd media—Conan, Elric, Dune, and the like, and this combined with his raging hormones makes him crave sex, but of course Chad Thundercock is—in his mind—bogarting sex from him.

Knowing that he can’t compete with “Chad”, and still having an idealized concept of womanhood, he decides to forgo the whole masculinity “thing”, spitting in the face of the “dudebros” and embracing womanhood. The feminist girls in school tolerate his supplicant non-offensiveness more than any other woman ever has, if their agenda goes through he’ll have his final revenge on the cool kids, and he might even get in bed with one of his new cohorts, because unlike Stacy and her merry slut brigade, the feminist girls see how good he is.

Does that sound ridiculous? If so, bear in mind that until I was about 15 years old, I literally could not conceive of any way to get to speak to a girl that didn’t involve me rescuing her from armed robbery/assault, so many young men do unfortunately think like this! I had that weird, video game induced “Rescue-the-princess” Madonna/Whore thing, and yes, I despised “Chads” and “Dudebros”.

I of course changed my ways when I got into fitness and the “school of hard knocks” of learning how to attract women in college, but let’s pretend that I didn’t. Let’s follow our nerd into his adulthood.

Nerd Life Part Two

Still sexually frustrated because his feminist friends have inevitably been passing him up for sex in favor of those Neanderthals they’re supposed to hate, he’s starting to resent women—keeping hold of his idealized concept of femininity mainly out of habit and because the alternative (Admitting that the dudebros were right) is so much worse to him.

He won’t force himself on a woman—heaven forbid, that’s disgusting—so he just continues to hate them silently… but then! He achieves his dream job-writing for a leftist news rag, or Marvel Comics, or sells a TV pilot or movie script.

Now all of a sudden he’s a star, he has ascended to a similar position in society as Chad Thundercock, but via being a nerd! And best of all, for the first time, women are giving him the time of day—in fact, they’re practically throwing themselves at him. Beautiful young women, the kind that have been mocking and bullying him since kindergarten.

Those half-remembered dreams of being a swaggering alpha male brute, suppressed for so long, come to the surface, and he revels in his newfound status, “casting couch”-ing most of his girls and coercing or harassing the ones who don’t put out. And to an extent he also sublimates his desire for vengeance against the Stacies of the world by defiling their beauty with his flabby unpleasantness.

Pleasurable to body and fulfilling to the spirit in the short term, he ultimately feels kind of bad, because this is going against the feminist ideals he has been imbibing since he was a teenager. Thus, he overcompensates by supporting female politicians and writing overblown “Strong women” into his work, but not actually changing his ways of course, because he’s having sex, bro!

The cycle of cognitive dissonance and mental instability continues until it all comes crashing down, as we’re seeing now.

Speculation?

This, of course, was just a theory, based on observation of the objective unattractiveness of most male feminists, their behavior, and my own time as a rage-filled teenage nerd and incel. As it is, it seems plausible if nothing else, and I predict that as the sexual situation in the west remains dysfunctional, expect more of this beta male rage. It will not be the explosive, violent, Marc Lepine type, instead it will be this sort of duplicitous rank hypocrisy from men in power.

And if you think this is just the words of some misogynistic crank Return of Kings writer, keep in mind that many women are starting to learn that male feminists tend to be pretty terrible people, and likely many more will in the future.

Read More: Why Feminists Hate Male Sexuality

46 thoughts on “Why Are Male Feminists Such Creeps?”

  1. This is why I’m very skeptical of “conservative” women who speak out against “race mixing”. It’s guaranteed they’ve been rode hard by Africans, Arabs, Afghanis, etc. When someone does something that makes them feel guilty, the best way to relieve that guilt without hurting the ego is to attack other people for doing the same thing.

    1. Ah, most of them probably haven’t, believe it or not, black men are not that attractive to most women, lol, even their own. Even in the porn industry many women typically turn down shots with black men and/ or they require large amounts compensation. I just don’t trust women to begin with, and the thing I don’t trust is the fact that they will change their “morals” at the drop of the hat in order to get attention. Most women, liberal/conservative, are just Zombies looking for attention in the most convenient platform possible.

      1. @Pavel Bro, stop virtue signaling. Every time a guy comes onto a web forum and starts talking about how he likes fucking minorities you can immediately tell that he, like a woman, is just looking for attention in the most faggoty way possible. Nobody here gives a fuck that you fuck black women. Funny, are you a liberal? Ex. You: “look at me, look at me, I fuck black women, I am super tolerant and cool, I prove with my super Russian alpha cock that race doesn’t matter, and I am totally not racist…please someone give me an award.” P.S. fucking prostitutes doesn’t make you cool, and like Donovan (the black writer) has said on ROK a number of times…black women are SUPER easy and SUPER slutty…it is also why they have such a prevalent STD infection rate. So watch out for that.

        1. Women of other races turn me on. It doesnt mean that I’m liberal and tolerant. The most common opinion here is that interracial sex is bad. And I think the opposite

        2. Hehe..Roosh himself did his share of banging Latina women..I prefer darker women, not because of diversity but because I simply like them better. White women do not really turn me on at all. This is not a neo nazi site.

      2. Interracial sex is pointless, it is totally a push by globalists to eliminate the identity of the white race by getting white women to, at the very least, waste their time in relationships with foreign/different men (the darker the better). Not caring about things like that is called Nihilism, it is the “I don’t give a fuck” about anything (pride, virtue, honor, loyalty) attitude. Men like you are what is wrong with this society. Yes, most of you morons, just like the women who post pictures of their mudsharking, are just trying to virtue signal for brownie points. As Donovan Sharpe wrote himself: Mudsharks usually have daddy problems or problems similar to that, drug problems, are prolific liars, are prolific sluts, and they and their black lovers usually do like fucking each other as a way of showing their “empowerment against the evil white man”…they have no loyalty to their people, tribe, or nation… You know, those virtues that made all great nations to begin with, and the whole purpose of this ROK site, the whole purpose of the metaphorical “Return of the King”.
        LOL, it is also called evolution. A truly masculine man wants to spread his seed and those genes similar to his own, and the last thing a PATRIARCH would want to see is his race (Yes, race is more than skin color) get diluted and destroyed, especially by other races of men who have yet to even build somewhat functioning nations on their own….that is PURE CUCKERY. Oh, If blacks/Asians were getting “invaded” and their race was getting destroyed they would go ape shit, so any Black/Arab/Indian in theses comments bitching about what I am saying is more than likely a MASSIVE hypocrite. Marxists push for inter-racialism (especially against whites) as one of their MAIN WEAPONS against the west….so, that alone, should tell you everything you need to know about that.
        LOL, interracial sex pre-modern history only happened out of necessity, was only allowed if the opposite group was deemed worthy, was used as a way to form alliances between tribes of equal or greater strength, and/or was the result of war (as in the rape and pillaging of a people to either insult and demoralize them, or to wipe their tribe completely of the face of the earth).
        I personally think people like you suffer from a weird form of sexual masochism disorder, mixed with a heavy bout of nihilism and demoralization. Which makes sense since you are Russian after all, and don’t men usually drink themselves to death by the age of 50 there?

        2. Pavel…Yes…like I explained in my post…”Your dick wants black women..” your a fag. You are a broken man, a lost soul, and a complete retard. You are the by-product of a pathetic ad demoralized society. I already said you suffer a mental disease, so I know you are fucked up and I know there is no real help for you. The fact is you probably fuck minorities because no good Russian women exist…that is actually white man’s fault…but whatever. Nothing special about colored women. There is a reason why colored men are desperate for white women. You are pathetic, so stop virtue signaling, you are just like a liberal women who is like “OMG, i fuck black men I am so COOOOOLLLLL” that is exactly what you are doing right now.

    3. Lauren southern, single white women, upper middle class, with too much time and money to travel, people are saying that she fucks black pigeon.

  2. I am currently taking a class on men and masculinity at university. It’s cringe worthy, to say the least. One time, we had a special guest speaker: a 70 year old male to female transgender prof who whined for an hour and a half about why he felt his children should not have abandoned him and how it wasn’t a choice for him to be this way. He repeatedly said, “I didn’t do this for pleasure, I don’t have sexual relations”, I am like, clearly that’s not your source for pleasure. Your source of pleasure is to wear dresses and heels, and you would rather do that than have a family.

    1. Listening to that sounds like the most grueling experience ever. The University is so toxic to genuine masculinity. I don’t know about the rest of the class’ content but if it’s anything like that I am glad this semester is almost over for you.

      1. My entire university career is grueling. I am literally only here so I can eventually become a lawyer because money.
        I am not one of these people that can survive off minimum wage. When I don’t have a lot of money, I literally cry, because I am not accustomed to that sort of lifestyle.

      1. No, (there are many transgender professors) but we do have to study her and her work actually forms the basis of the class. Everything we do pretty much is based off of her concept of differing masculinities.

        1. thanks for your reply, slightly depressing though it is in terms of the details revealed.
          BTW you are on RoK now. You don’t have to use someone’s preferred pronouns. You can call him a bloke in a frock or worse. Its a safe space for saying such things

        2. Haha, I just use their preferred pronouns out of convenience more than anything.
          I mean, I don’t subscribe to their degenerate lifestyle, but at the same time, I don’t care to insult them either.

        4. I wanted to reply to this comment, but there was no “reply” button for some reason:
          You: “Haha, I just use their preferred pronouns out of convenience more than anything.
          I mean, I don’t subscribe to their degenerate lifestyle, but at the same time, I don’t care to insult them either.”
          If you use their “preferred pronouns,” you are twisting and distorting the English language in order to appease them.
          If you refer to them by their correct pronouns (i.e. “he” for a biological male), you are not insulting them. You are merely refusing to butcher the English language in order to appease them humor their delusions.
          I refuse to use these people’s “preferred” pronouns. Just like if someone asked to be called “your majesty” because they identified as a king or queen, I would not start calling them that. Of if someone told me they identified as a dog, and for me to bark at them instead of speaking, I would not do that either.

    3. @Meera I gave you a thumbs up for correctly referring to the transgender “female” as “he,” not “she.”

  3. Is this the one that stutters and was committed by his sister twice to a mental hospital? Yeah I got towed to see him/her in college by a girl I was orbiting. Did not get the girl, of course, actually she might have been the first one to start me on the way to seeing the light.

  4. I was the teenage nerd with raging hormones, like you describe in your article.
    For me the moment I realized, that women shouldn’t be put on a pedestal, was caused by two things, reading a book about a body language and by an alpha bitch during my highschool years. What’s interesting is during the last year she got rid of her bitchy attitude and became nicer. (the large amount of “know your place, woman” moments certainly helped)
    Nerds are an interesting bunch. With a proper guidance they can be the next captain of an industry, or sadly the “casting couch” creep.

  5. You lost me at the nerd getting a job at Marvel or a media outlet. I suspect financially-sound men of having fathers or financial support until that point of their success. Most men I’ve met, who are not millionaires, were dropped into the job market with no other option, and struggle.
    Most college graduates I know had parents to help them (or a young wife with wealth). Most buisnessmen I know had a father to guide them. Most military men I know had confidence back when I hated dudebros, too. Now I wish I’d had confidence, a father, or money as a developing man. The cost I’m having to eat is taking over my life right now, and I even know self pity is a trap.
    I’d take these hardships over a hard heart like (((him))) any day of the week. I think money-power is far from the only ingredient needed to make a monster out of a nerd like I was; however, single parenthood has been a good smelling-salt to neomasculinity, and I see men with financial freedom make leftist/feminist/blue-pill choices regularly enough.
    One of my biggest comforts anymore is feeling like I know something blue-pills don’t know, and I hope that’s not a weakness caused by pride. There’s this lense of truth I see through in many situations, conversations, and hindsight. I wouldn’t trade the enlightenment I gained here for even tons of sweaty couch sex, but I hope I can prove there’s a sex-life after learning about this cage we’re all in together.

    1. Said it before Seth, and I’ll say it again. If you were never naturally good with women, then you have a chance to become ‘unnatural’, that is to say better than the naturals.
      Most men aren’t able to and will forever be doomed to mediocrity, so don’t lose sight of your self improvement goals to memes and (((them))).
      It kinda seems like you’re thinking of yourself as a victim. I could probably rationalise some of my personal failings away to money, or environment, but I use them as a catalyst to spur myself on and beat everyone else out. Make your plan and stick to it and tear your pound of flesh from the world- or the world will tear it’s own from yourself.

  6. Why? One reason is they defend behavior like this:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/01/us/women-rescued-at-sea.html
    Lack of fathers, mother grooming them to hate anything manly, culture of feelings rather than accomplishments and improving oneself. Herd mentality of fads(skinny jeans), media that showers men’s brains to be schlubs, goofy, & followers.
    Environmental influence and nutritional ingredients that suppress natural development of a man’s body: http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/10/buzzfeed-crew-shocked-find-testosterone-levels-12-year-old-boys-video/
    Also, a stern warning of graphic nature. Don’t go to the video link, it is vomitous material watching these these, …..ugh…..boys?

  7. This article is spot on Mr. Halleck.
    Glad to see you’ve come around.
    Yes, feminism is basically an anti-male grenade that men at the bottom of the barrel use to compete with men at the top.
    But the kill radius of that grenade always exceeds it’s throw radius.
    In the end it hurts us all.
    And yes, wherever there are chads banging away at girls the guys at the bottom see damsels in distress in need of rescue.
    http://i0.wp.com/www.antifeministtech.info/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/feminism-does-not-pay.jpg
    (from my own MRA days)
    Another thing, that’s seldom mentioned, is that it paints a picture of the world where you are the sexual equals of women.
    That if you think that women want sex just as much as you do or that men’s sexuality is every bit as valuable as
    women’s or that women don’t universally prefer big hunky guys to enuchs and bookworms, then you perceive that getting laid is a lot easier for you than it actually is.
    And so you constantly pursue a rainbow, a mirage.
    And at first it’s easy to do because it’s a comforting thought that it’s all right around the corner for you.
    It’s only when you’ve been at it a while and you see that no results are forthcoming that you start to question.
    And this process can take years.
    I should know.

  8. Every boy gets his chance to become a red pilled man, via any/all of the interactions – irresponsible mother, divorce rapey fiance, attention whoring daughter.
    Male feminists have had none of them.

  9. “I literally could not conceive of any way to get to speak to a girl that didn’t involve me rescuing her from armed robbery/assault, so many young men do unfortunately think like this!”
    that’s right. Beautiful woman being attacked by ninjas? Just walk on by.

  10. that one picture of the closet dweller
    who enjoys his girlfriend’s strap-on
    looks like the Texas church shooter.
    -just sayin

  11. Whenever there is a society in which there are oppressors and oppressed, there will always be a subset of the latter group who adopt the values of the oppressor in the hope that this will admit them to some kind of intermediate group. So a plantation slave might kiss the white man’s hand to become an overseer, oppressing his own kind to get scraps from the master’s table.
    This, in a nutshell, is the male feminist. This is the creature who abases himself – says that masculinity is toxic for example – because he sees the way the cards have fallen and scurries towards what he perceives to be the winning team. He is the house slave, glad not to be toiling in the field because his subservience has earned him what he perceives to be a higher status.

  12. Hi Roosh, where did you get the picture of the guy wearing the “This is what a feminist looks like” shirt? I may know that guy. Resembles a bully I had to deal with in elementary school. Can you tell me where you found that image? Thank you.

  14. Those moments are very schadenfreudig when their false personas shatter. 🙂

  16. “Male feminism” is an alternative pussy-getting strategy for Low-T soyboys.
    It doesn’t work. And they grow angrier and angrier because they’ve been “taught’ that that’s what they’re “supposed” to do to make women like them.
    So they ultimately get red-pilled, or display violence towards themselves or other, or both – remember the sad tale of Karl Pierson, the liberal (communist actually) soyboy betafag who was basically in incel until the day he died, right after killing a hottie in his class that he couldn’t ever have.

  17. If prostitution was as acceptable as it is in Southeast Asia or sex were otherwise available how quickly do you think these gays would disappear from the feminist orbit.
    My guess is that they would drop off to nothing except the genuine gays.
    And how many gays seem to be repressed heterosexuals who have forced themselves to be gay simply to GET SOME KIND OF SEX.

  20. Its revenge of the nerds. I reached puberty very late – not until I was 14 1/2. So I was always the smallest, least desirable male around all though high school. Once you do develop, you are so far behind in sports and being cool that it is hopeless. You cant catch up in high school.
    Its hard – you really dont learn how to interact with girls properly, because they want nothing to do with you. Plus, if you study and get really good grades and honors, most of the girls view you as an oddity. So they are intimidated by you, even though you dont know it at the time.
    Like all good stories, eventually many of the nerds do switch places with many of the formerly “cool” kids. I went to an ivy league. Some of the real assholes from high school went to community college or got suck ass jobs out of high school. Almost every single young marriage between a real high school beauty and her asshole husband fell apart. Mostly the male’s excessive drinking and drug use, pointless focus on professional sports, or low income.
    Navigating the bridge from uncool nerd to awesome stud is hard. There are so few guides. I figured it out (I am older than most of your readers – it was not called “game” back then – it wasnt called anything) – with some help from a very cool co-worker. Life is good.
    I totally understand the circumstances whereby a former nerd/loser gets power and attention and now acts like a total and complete asshole to women (or worse), especially to those hotties who would have totally ignored him years ago.
    Its called PAYBACK.
    But payback is empty- there is no life fulfillment in it.
    We need an adopt-a-nerd program for those nerds who have come upon success in work and business and are worthy.

  22. Bwahaha! These genetic misfire pictures make me laugh. Why would someone go out in public with a shirt like that? Some man cards need to be turned in.

  23. These “men” (and I use the term loosely) think calling themselves feminists is there version of “game”. It is too difficult to act like men

  25. SJW are the useful idiots for the elites just as male feminists are the useful idiots for the feminists. They are discarded once done with.

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